Colorado Loses Big Due to 2013 Gun Law











When it comes to gun control laws, we usually point to the overwhelming evidence that they do little if anything to actually stop the violence they are aimed at solving. They are a nuisance at best and a real obstacle to American freedom at their worst.

But sometimes, they are an economic problem as well. Colorado is finding that out right now.

This week, ammunition manufacturer Magpul Industries announced they were making a major deal to supply the U.S. Marine Corps with their products. The deal will bring an untold number of new jobs to the manufacturer’s homebase – Cheyenne, Wyoming.

That’s good news for the people of Cheyenne, but it is a bitter pill to swallow for the citizens of Colorado. That’s where Magpul Industries was located until last year when they fled the state in an attempt to escape Colorado’s new anti-ammunition laws.

Magpul employed some 100 people when they were headquartered in Colorado, but they started looking for greener pastures when the Democrat-controlled legislature passed an anti-ammunition law in the wake of the Aurora movie theater shooting. The law made it illegal to sell any magazines that were capable of holding more than 15 rounds, leading to a major political shakeup in Colorado and ultimately inspiring Magpul to yank its facilities out of the state.

The company chose Texas for its headquarters and Cheyenne for its production facilities. The Wyoming State Loan and Investment Board handed the company $8.3 million to make the move, but reports show that Laramie County expects to gain more than $14 million in total benefits from having Magpul operating in their hometown. That loss alone would be a bitter pill for Colorado workers to swallow; the Department of Defense contract just makes it all the worse.

On Tuesday, Colorado Senate President Kevin Grantham expressed his irritation with the news.

“My take is there is no big surprise here,” said Grantham. “You tell a company they can’t sell a product in your state, when it’s a good product and a popular product. They move across the state line, they get a lot of support and they get a big contract. We lost not only the jobs they had when they were here, we lost the jobs they’ve grown into since and we’re losing all the jobs they’re going to grow into in future years with this contract.

He said the Marine contract would likely be followed with major contracts from the other branches of the military.

“That’s a massive, massive contract just a short distance down the road. We lost that,” he said. “What good did this gun law do? Not a blasted bit.”

It made people “feel” like they were safer. That’s all. Unfortunately, nothing makes a community safer than a thriving economy. Magpul’s exodus didn’t crash Colorado’s job market by any means…but no state is so well off that they can afford to watch employers abandon them due to idiotic legislation.

 

 


  • jgfsmf

    Well said Grantham. You have one thing to look forward to though, things are going to really start changing is about three weeks.

    • Dale

      Right, watch when the stock market drops down to 6000 points. Taxing the poor and giving to make the rich richer. Just wait until marshal law takes effect in the next 24 months

      • Nancy E

        Are you talking about what would happen if Hillary had been elected? Trump is already improving the business climate.

        • Mike W

          In typical liberal fashion they take credit for what they didn’t do and blame others for what they did do.

          • Ed Anderson

            That’s a classic assessment!

          • ABO

            And very, very accurate.

          • AKLady2015

            The Electoral College elected Trump.
            Russia had their hands in that.
            Russians owned him before the election.

          • Rob1911a1

            No, the electoral college cast the votes THE CONSTITUENTS gave them, on the behalf of the citizenry. The Russia Conspiracy is just – an irrational (ZERO proof) notion cooked up by the Dems to assuage their loss. The Russians don’t ”own” Trump; he’s worth 10 billion! Of course he does business with them, as he does with other countries. That’s just good business sense.

          • AKLady2015

            WRONG.

            The Electoral College cannot be bound to follow the popular vote.

            You need to learn how your government actually functions

            Thes Prwsidents did not have thw popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George W. Bush and Donald Trump.

          • Rob1911a1

            Per usual, AK, you are wrong again. There is NO (ZERO) evidence Russia had a hand in that; in fact, in the three states that the Dems challenged, fraud on the DEMS part was found (Hillary had far fewer popular votes in WI; Detroit had half their votes discounted (dead, fake, etc); and PA she lost votes also. She also lost FOUR more electoral votes. If we count the MILLIONS of illegal aliens who vote for her (and no, your dispute with that does NOT apply to most of the continental states), she lost the popular vote as well. Funny, when I was 12, JFK LOST the popular vote, but WON the electoral college. Where was the outrage then????????????

        • Dale

          No, I am talking about
          trump. I did not vote for either of them, just Libertarian Party. How many jobs did he SAVE at Carrier.

          “” McGhee was talking about a letter related to 1,400 Carrier jobs in Indianapolis. Most jobs, but far from every job, at the Indianapolis plant ended up being saved thanks to the deal with Trump’s team. The outlook worsens when you factor in that plant’s job losses with another Indiana plant slated for closure and owned by Carrier’s parent company. “”

          The new refurbished factory will be run by robots with a few humans watching to make sure the robots do not make mistakes… Real Savior ????

          • Flayer

            How many jobs did Obama save in 8 years? And I’m talking about American jobs, not Nicaraguan or Brazilian jobs.

          • Justin Seine

            He saved the jobs of 2 caddies at a golf course in Hawaii! – I do however believe that they will be let go on January 20, 2017.

          • Flayer

            Nah – Trump will hire him at one of HIS golf courses. Actually, thinking about it the caddies will be shocked to caddy for people who DON’T cheat on their scores. I am SO ready for Jan.20, 2017!

          • AKLady2015

            ?? Why do you lie?

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            AKLady gets an ‘F’ in sarcasm 101….not sure if that raises or lowers your GPA.

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you lie?

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            Now wait a minute. First, you equate Trump with Hitler, now he’s a Czar! Make up your mind.

          • Clay Fitzgerald

            The problem with AKlady2015 is that there’s no mind to be make up!

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            I can’t argue with that kind of logic!

          • AKLady2015

            Don’t waste you time.’
            The right-wing does not understand facts.

          • Mathew Molk

            Where the hell did you get that faerie tale from? CNN????

        • Flayer

          America is already better and Trump has already won multiple times. He said we would get sick of winning so much. Look at the election: He won the primary, the general, the 3 recalls and the electoral college. That is six wins already! And I pray that he continues to win because Trump winning means that WE win. The sooner we undo all of Obama’s disastrous admin the better for all of us, except the fascists and tyrant-wanna-bes who will have to go back into hiding.

          • AKLady2015

            Some people learn the hard way.
            Most of themare Republicans.
            The Electoral College elected Trump.
            Russia had their hands in that.
            Russians owned him before the election.

          • Flayer

            And yet it was the Clintons who benefitted greatly in PERSONAL income from assisting the sales of American uranium to the Russians while she was Sec of State. $750,000 for a couple of 20 min speeches was just the tip of the iceberg. Who said on a hot mic to Medveydev just before the ’12 election to wait and be patient and “tell Vlad that he would have more flexibility after the election”?

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            How does Russia benefit from a stronger America? Aside from a global economic perspective that is. Putin has played obama like a fiddle for 8 years. He laughs at us, the WORLD is laughing at us. Now it seems to me he(Putin) might like to continue that “arrangement”. So if he were to try to influence our election in any way, don’t you think it would be to ensure a continuation of the policies of barack obama that put us on our knees in the first place?

          • Mathew Molk

            You forgot Carrier and the other 4000 jobs he brought in last week.

            The commiecrats BS has been collapsing like a house of cards.

            Everything we said was going to happen happened, Everything they said was going to go down was bullshit.

          • Flayer

            They have two strategies now: (1) Wait for Trump to err then put it on a 24-hour loop and make it a major screw-up (and everybody does err eventually) and (2) Force him to fail in some way or another. Look for the hapless Republicans to vote against him, for example, on one of his campaign promises such as lowered taxes or repeal of Obamacare. They will work around the clock, tirelessly, to portray every setback as a major loss and seek to discredit him. This we can count on. But we MUST take Trump’s example and keep on, not give up despite things looking down. He MUST bank on a number of huge successes in the first 100 days wherever possible and in the following year. This way his identity will be fixed. Anyway, just my NY thoughts. Happy 2017!

        • Shawn Zuk

          You know the liberals are broken up into 3 groups. The 1st group. Well,, they Drank the Kool-Aid. The 2nd group drank the kool-aid and ate the sandwich too. The 3rd group not only drank the kool-aid and ate the sandwich,,, their also chewing on the damn wrapper for crying out loud.
          More and more people are progressing up the ladder to the wrapper.
          And that’s my description of liberal progressives.

          • AKLady2015

            And the Republicans illlegally do business in Cuba.. take jobs to China … are elected by Russia chacking the vote…..

          • Rob1911a1

            AK – you keep expounding on this Russia hacking nonsense; but it’s purely a creation of the Dems because they can’t deal with being exposed as the losers they are. NO PROOF. Jobs went overseas when the DEMOCRATS over-regulated AND over-taxed American businesses. The 39% capital gains tax our businesses pay is the HIGHEST IN THE WORLD! Even Communist China only taxes at 25%! If Trump drops our capital gains tax to that, we can keep, and probably GAIN, jobs. Also, lowering taxes ALWAYS generates higher revenues; Economics 101. It’s the Obama administration that opened us up with Cuba, which was the height of stupidity, not the GOP! Can’t you ever get your facts straight (preferably without being pissy about it as you usually are).

          • AKLady2015

            Another well-brainwashed one.
            You don’t know what you are talking about.
            Your so-called fact are pure garbage.

            A top rate of 15% applies to qualified dividends and the sale of most appreciated assets held over one year (28% for collectibles and 25% for depreciation recapture) for single filers with taxable income up to $415,050 ($466,950 for married filing jointly).ed dividend income over the income threshold is taxed at a rate of 20%.

            If you had actually done some research you would know that in some area of China, businesses re taxed at 60%.

            Back in the WW II era, the top federal rate, on the very rich, was 95%

            Trump cannot drop the tax rate. Only Congress can do that.
            Lowering taxes is Regan Economics. It has alway increased debt.

          • Rob1911a1

            As always, AK, wrong again. Econ 101 – lowering tax rates ALWAYS increases revenues; raising tax rates ALWAYS DECREASES revenues. Once again, to repeat: the capital gains tax on American businesses is 39% (FACT, LOOK IT UP). China, after it abandoned the (failed) commy/socialist model pushed by Dems today) lowered its capital gains rate to 25%, to its advantage. As for Reagan, he have America a 20 year economic boom by lowering taxes; the only ‘hitch’ was the elder Bush’s mistaken tax increase, which cost him the election in 1992. Clinton tried to come out of the gate with all sorts of ‘revenue enhancements’; they were so offensive that he lost both the House and the Senate in 1994; the GOP Houses PREVENTED him from overspending, because he was (shudder) smart enough to play ball with them, knowing they controlled the purse strings. As for the 15% tax on stock dividends, I stand by that; why do you think that idiot Warren Buffet got away with claiming his executive secretary paid more taxes than he did? Because, as a high level business school grad, she probably earned ~250,000 K per year, while Buffet “salary” is only, say, 50K; but, as before, he pays only 15% on his stocks dividends. The fact that he is one of the richest billionaires in the world is, literally, proof of what is claimed. I do wish you would bet your facts straight!!!

          • AKLady2015

            Supply side economics does not work, it has never worked.
            Reagan increased the national debt by 288%

            His economic “magic” was government spending,
            His “jobs” magic was a huge increase in government employment.

            I suggest you follow your own advice, take an economics class at an accredited college/university.

            You need to learn the difference between “revenue” and “profit”.
            You also need to study “capital gain” a bit further.

          • Rob1911a1

            AK – I always love it when someone who doesn’t know what they are talking about tells me I need to ‘study’ the subject, when I have in fact done so. For example, as of June 2011, once the national debt passed $13 trillion mark the Obama administration had increased the debt by $3.398 trillion in just 710 days! Currently, we are at the door of 20 trillion, and WE LACK THE GOLD ASSETS TO COVER THAT DEBT. At the start of Reagan’s Presidency (with a huge recession left to him by that boob Carter), the National Debt was $997.8 billion; 8 years later it was indeed higher, it was $2.1 trillion, a bit more than double (not 288%). The spending was necessitated by the previous administration. (Oh, and I have taken Econ at a Major University). For example, as famed author H.W. Brands said, “Since George Washington, presidents have embraced public debt as an investment in America’s future.” At the start of FDR presidency in 1933: US National Debt $22.5 billion
            End of presidency 1945: US National Debt $258.5 billion, i.e., he had increased the national debt by a factor of over 11; that’s an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE greater! FDR CAUSED the Great Depression. As for your assertion concerning supply side economics, I can only imagine you obtained that from the Huffington Post incompetents:
            Definition: Supply-side economics is the theory that says the supply of money, labor, and goods or services, creates demand. It is the opposite of Keynesian theory, which states that demand is the primary driving force. It recommends lower tax rates and deregulation to boost economic growth. (By the way, it is Keynesian economics – basically socialism – that has never worked).
            Here’s how supply-side economics is supposed to work. A corporate tax cut gives businesses more money to hire workers, invest in capital equipment and produce more goods and services.
            An income tax cut increases the dollars per hour worked, increasing workers’ incentive to remain employed, and thereby increasing labor. This increase in supply boosts economic growth. That’s why supply-side is also known as trickle-down economics.
            Businesses can raise prices, and workers can then bargain for higher wages, which will translate back into higher tax revenues. Some supply-side proponents even argue that, over time, any lost tax revenue will be recouped through greater tax receipts from a booming economy. (Source NYT, How Supply-side Economics Trickled Down, April 6, 2007)
            Theory Behind Supply-Side Economics
            Supply-side economics is based on the Laffer Curve. It was developed in 1979 by economist Arthur Laffer. He argued that the effect of tax cuts on the federal budget are immediate. They are also on a 1-for-1 basis. For every dollar cut in taxes reduces government spending (and its stimulative effect) by exactly one dollar.
            However, that same tax cut has a multiplier effect on economic growth. Every dollar cut in taxes translates into increased demand. That’s because it stimulates business growth, which results in additional hiring.
            How much effect tax cuts have depends on whether the economy is growing, how high taxes were to begin with, and which taxes are cut.
            If taxes were in the prohibitive zone, then cuts will have the best effect. If taxes are already low, then cuts will only reduce government revenue and increase deficits without boosting growth enough to offset the revenue lost.
            How Well Did It Work?
            Supply-side economics was put into practice in the 1980s by President Reagan. He used it as a tool to combat stagflation, a rare combination of stagnant economic growth and high inflation. For this reason, supply-side economics is also known as Reaganomics.
            Reagan cut the top marginal income tax rate from 70% to 28%. The top corporate tax rate was reduced from 46% to 40%. The economy recovered out of, what was then, the worst recession since the Great Depression. (Please re-read previous sentence).
            However, Reagan also increased federal spending on defense at the same time. He doubled the national debt while he was in office. According to Keynesians, this would have also boosted economic growth by putting more money into the economy, creating jobs and increasing demand. (His spending on Defense helped bring about the end of the USSR, all without firing a single shot; pretty good investment, I would say, especially since I was still in the service).
            President Bush also used supply-side reasoning to cut taxes in 2001 (JGTRRA) and 2003 (EGTRRA). The economy grew, and revenues increased. Supply-siders, including the President, said that was because of the tax cuts. (Source: New York Federal Reserve, Historical Fed Funds Rate)
            A lot depends on which segment of society gets the tax cuts. Studies show that tax cuts to lower income families are more likely to be directly translated into increased spending. That boosts demand and economic growth. The same tax cuts to higher income families can instead be used to pay off debt, invested or saved. It could help the stock market or banks, but isn’t as powerful an economic stimulus because it doesn’t drive increased sales at the cash register.
            Studies That Support Supply-Side Economics
            The Treasury Department developed a model which showed that the Bush tax cuts would ultimately increase annual GDP by 0.7%. However, it is important to note that the model assumes that the revenue lost by the cuts were offset by reduced fiscal spending, keeping the budget balanced. If instead, tax cuts now were balanced by future tax increases, they would have a negative impact on the economy in the long run. The future tax increases would be needed to pay off the additional debt incurred by a combination of tax cuts without reduced fiscal spending. (Source: U.S. Treasury Department, A Dynamic Analysis of Permanent Extension of President’s Tax Relief, July 25, 2006)
            In the previous paragraph, it is the FISCAL SPENDING under the Democrats, starting with a Democratic Congress in 2006, and continuing with Obama, since, again as per the preceding paragraph, “…future tax increases would be need to pay of the ADDITIONAL debt incurred by a combination of tax cuts WITHOUT reduced fiscal spending. (Note posted sources). Definition: Supply-side economics is the theory that says the supply of money, labor, and goods or services, creates demand. It is the opposite of Keynesian theory, which states that demand is the primary driving force. It recommends lower tax rates and deregulation to boost economic growth.
            Here’s how supply-side economics is supposed to work. A corporate tax cut gives businesses more money to hire workers, invest in capital equipment and produce more goods and services.
            An income tax cut increases the dollars per hour worked, increasing workers’ incentive to remain employed, and thereby increasing labor. This increase in supply boosts economic growth. That’s why supply-side is also known as trickle-down economics
            Businesses can raise prices, and workers can then bargain for higher wages, which will translate back into higher tax revenues. Some supply-side proponents even argue that, over time, any lost tax revenue will be recouped through greater tax receipts from a booming economy. (Source NYT, How Supply-side Economics Trickled Down, April 6, 2007)
            Theory Behind Supply-Side Economics
            Supply-side economics is based on the Laffer Curve. It was developed in 1979 by economist Arthur Laffer. He argued that the effect of tax cuts on the federal budget are immediate. They are also on a 1-for-1 basis. For every dollar cut in taxes reduces government spending (and its stimulative effect) by exactly one dollar.
            However, that same tax cut has a multiplier effect on economic growth. Every dollar cut in taxes translates into increased demand. That’s because it stimulates business growth, which results in additional hiring.
            How much effect tax cuts have depends on whether the economy is growing, how high taxes were to begin with, and which taxes are cut.
            If taxes were in the prohibitive zone, then cuts will have the best effect. If taxes are already low, then cuts will only reduce government revenue and increase deficits without boosting growth enough to offset the revenue lost.
            How Well Did It Work?
            Supply-side economics was put into practice in the 1980s by President Reagan. He used it as a tool to combat stagflation, a rare combination of stagnant economic growth and high inflation. For this reason, supply-side economics is also known as Reaganomics.
            Reagan cut the top marginal income tax rate from 70% to 28%. The top corporate tax rate was reduced from 46% to 40%. The economy recovered out of, what was then, the worst recession since the Great Depression. (note the phrase: ”.. the economy recovered out of, what was then, the worst recession since the Great Depression”).
            However, Reagan also increased federal spending on defense at the same time. He doubled the national debt while he was in office. According to Keynesians, this would have also boosted economic growth by putting more money into the economy, creating jobs and increasing demand.
            President Bush also used supply-side reasoning to cut taxes in 2001 (JGTRRA) and 2003 (EGTRRA). The economy GREW, and revenues INCREASED. Supply-siders, including the President, said that was because of the tax cuts. (Source: New York Federal Reserve, Historical Fed Funds Rate)
            A lot depends on which segment of society gets the tax cuts. Studies show that tax cuts to lower income families are more likely to be directly translated into increased spending. That boosts demand and economic growth. The same tax cuts to higher income families can instead be used to pay off debt, invested or saved. It could help the stock market or banks, but isn’t as powerful an economic stimulus because it doesn’t drive increased sales at the cash register. For more, read Do Tax Cuts Create Jobs?

            Studies That Support Supply-Side Economics

            The Treasury Department developed a model which showed that the Bush tax cuts would ultimately increase annual GDP by 0.7%. However, it is important to note that the model assumes that the revenue lost by the cuts were offset by reduced fiscal spending, keeping the budget balanced. If instead, tax cuts now were balanced by future tax increases, they would have a negative impact on the economy in the long run. The future tax increases would be needed to pay off the additional debt incurred by a combination of tax cuts without reduced fiscal spending. (Source: U.S. Treasury Department, A Dynamic Analysis of Permanent Extension of President’s Tax Relief, July 25, 2006) Note the phrase “….future tax increases would be needed to pay of the additional debt incurred by a combination of tax cuts WITHOUT reduced fiscal spending). The US takes in roughly TWO TRILLION per year in taxes; unfortunately, the Democrats have been SPENDING 3.5 trillion per year (much on useless social programs). Revenue definition: income, especially when of a company or organization and of a substantial nature.
            Profit definition: a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.
            “pretax profits” synonyms: (financial) gain, return(s), yield, proceeds, earnings:
            capital gains: a profit from the sale of property or of an investment.
            capital gains taxes: In the United States of America, individuals and corporations pay U.S. federal income tax on the net total of all their capital gains. The tax rate depends on both the investor’s tax bracket and the amount of time the investment was held. Short-term capital gains are taxed at the investor’s ordinary income tax rate and are defined as investments held for a year or less before being sold. Long-term capital gains, on dispositions of assets held for more than one year, are taxed at a lower rate.
            The reality, AK, is that unfortunately for you, I DO understand and have studied these things. Right now, there are 94 MILLION either out of work, or working part time low wage jobs. As noted before, the National Debt went from ~5.6 in 2000 to ~7.5 trillion in 2006, when the Dems took over Congress (i.e., it had only increased by about a third under Bush, and that’s with Congress having given him TWO wars to fight. As of 2006 when the Dems took Congress and 2008 when they took the Oval office, the National Debt has reached almost 20 TRILLION, almost triple what it was when they started spending money they did not have. (And I am not counting the unfunded liabilities of SS and Medicare; the three together amount to over 100 TRILLION, an inconceivable (and unpayable) amount). Besides my English Degree, I have an accounting degree, with the necessary Economics study, by the way. 1) socialism/communism/Kensyian economics have NEVER worked; 2) cutting taxes (advised by Democrat JFK, for example, ALWAYS increases revenues).

          • JYuma

            Then you agree ,that we have not been in a recession , these last 10 years[ from the end of buses term] till today.
            We have been in a “DEPRESSION”!

          • Rob1911a1

            JYuma – I totally agree. 94 million out of work, 18% of the people on food stamps, and it all started with Dems taking Congress in 2006 and the Oval office in 2008. I had thought Carter the most incompetent fool to ever occupy the White House, until we got the current idiot. I doubt he can spell economics, since he is a socialist/communist whose goal has been to ruin America.

          • JYuma

            Have you ever looked at the GDP, for those years? Do ,so, it will open your Eyes.
            Have you heard anything about the one that we have started into, NOW?
            Again, Look to the GDP.

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you presume thst you are the only one with training on this site? Why do you presume you know more than many experts who have studied the subject in depth?

            Supply side economics’s primary prediction is wrong—giving tax cuts to the rich does not increase economic output or create new jobs.. Lowering tax rates does not boost economic growth by giving people incentives to work, save, and invest more.

            The only think that tax cuts have produced is ntional debt. Reagan’s 20% cut increased the debt by 288%. Reagan expanded goernment Bush lowered taxes and started two ward. The result was a 101% increase in debt.

          • Rob1911a1

            AK – I am always astonished at how silly you are. You repeated your 288% assertion, even when I gave you the figures to show it was not that high – and it took eight years to get there. Next, you clearly did not read my post carefully; Reagan gave us an economic boom that lasted 20 years. I should add that my Economics background is in the Chicago School of Economics. Tax CUTS do not produce national debt; Democratic congresses SPENDING MORE THAN THEY take in increases the National Dept, as I outlined previously. Bush (and as you yourself corrected someone, only CONGRESS can declare war, so the two wars you cite were NOT his), did NOT give us a 101% increase in our national debt. He took office with 5.6 Trillion in National debt; in 2006, when the dems took over congress (with the two wars THEY also voted for) the national debt was 7.5 Trillion. Since you are weak in math as well, that is about a 33% increase in the National Debt. With two wars going, that’s actually amazingly good. In 2006, when the Dems took office, and in 2008 the Oval office, they started the debt zooming upwards. We take in 2 Trillion a year in taxes (mostly from the rich, who pay most of the taxes, by the way), BUT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SPENT 3.5 TRILLION PER YEAR DURING THEIR TENURE. They have left us with almost 20 TRILLION in National Debt, which, as mentioned earlier, is an amount that we cannot payoff; we lack enough gold! I don’t know why you keep posting nonsense; and clearly, you did not read my long previous post where I corrected your mistakes, just as I have done here. If you’re going to put yourself on here, at least LEARN something; if all you are going to do is bitch, then, as Truman said: “If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen”.

          • AKLady2015

            Your economics “background” is more than a little out-of-date. Milton Friedman passed away in 2006.
            You seem to think an administration’s spending stops on January 20th, when a new President is sworn into office. However that os not the case. Many government contracts span far more than four, or even eight years. Also, the federal government’s fiscal year runs from October 1 through September 30.

            According to historian Thomas Woods, “Ever since the Korean War, Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution — which refers to the president as the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’ — has been interpreted to mean that the president may act with an essentially free hand in foreign affairs, or at the very least that he may send men into battle without consulting Congress.”

            The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars EACH cost $1 million per day while actively engaged. The war expense does not stop until every injured soldier is in her/his grave.

            Oh, and economically speaking. national debt totals are meaningless. For there be any “fact” attached to those totals, it would be necessary for the entire balance to be converted into the dollar purchase value for a single year. Back in 1945, ham sold for $0.10 a pound. In 2017, that ham costs upward of $2.99 a pound.

          • AKLady2015

            Debt is cumulative.
            America’s WW II debt was just paid off.
            The Korean War debt is still on the books.
            Then there is the Vietnam War debt.
            Iraq I
            Iraq II
            Afghanistan …
            You do not know what you are talking about, I suggest both a government accounting class. a government budgeting class and intoro economic class.

        • AKLady2015

          We the People elected Hillary.
          The Electoral College elected Trump.
          Russia had their hands in that.
          Russians owned him before the election.
          Now Putin’s buddy and his Communist wife are in the White House.
          Oh, that is right, the wfe had enough common sensw not to more into the Whitw House.

      • jgfsmf

        Believe what you want to believe, but the stock market broke records the day after the elections, and it didn’t do that because Obama was still in office. You need to go back to your liberal hideaway and keep morning for Hillary while the rest of us loves life now that Obama has only 22 more days.

        • John Doe

          Well said!!!!!

        • AKLady2015

          Hillary won the popular vote.

          • jgfsmf

            That’s because California has so many stupid democrats. That’s why the electoral collage will never go away. So one state can’t rule the vote. In every state that each candidate won, each candidate won the popular vote in that state. That’s how it works.

          • Rob1911a1

            Sure, with millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS allowed to vote for her, as well as numerous felons whose voting rights were restored. Also, the HUGE majority of her votes come from LA, NYC, and San Fran. Three huge urban areas does not an election make!

          • AKLady2015

            Before you can vote, you must be registerees to vote.

            Every state issues voter idntification cards. The voter is assigned an identification number. The voter is also assigned to a polling place.

            For each election, the polling sites are issaued list of voters assigned to their location. If you are not on the list, you are haned an “Absetee Ballot” After the polls arw closed, that absentee ballot will be verified against the loist of registerwd voters..

            When you register, you are required to provided proof of U.S. citizenship.

            YOU HAVE NEVER REGISTERED TO VOTE.
            STOP LYING. IT EMBARASSES AMERICA.

          • Rob1911a1

            AK – that is a nice fantasy to believe; unfortunately, I live in one of MANY STATES where that is absolutely false. When I went to vote this year, I took out my voter registration card in VA; I was told, “oh, we don’t need that, just your driver’s license”. Since I worked for he last part of my life with illegal aliens who had drivers licences, I KNOW for a fact that they voted (and, with the SIEU Union telling them for whom they should vote – Democrats), I know for a FACT that what you have asserted is a total falsehood. Oh, Alaska may have that, but the (Democratically/Union) controlled continental states, what you have said is simply not true. I DO wish you would get your facts straight before you post!!! You are almost always wrong, regardless of the subject. FACTS outweigh IDEOLOGY.

      • rivahmitch

        The market may well collapse but it will be because the HNIC and its predecessors have borrowed money that can never be repaid and inflated the currency until it’s damned near worthless (as will become evident when the global economic fallout begins).

      • John Doe

        Well, looks like you had better buy a few cases of Pork & Beans…Brawhaha

      • John Doe

        Oh yeah, since you have that crystal ball, who’s going to win the Super Bowl????

        • The Old One

          Who cares who the hell wins the superball compared to who won the elections.

      • Flayer

        Your comments are based on what, exactly? Nothing. Conservatives promote decentralization of government but Democrats and Progs want an ever more powerful, richer government with a Central Plan and the erosion of individual rights whenever possible. Which ideology promotes a centralized economy, top-down, one-size fits all, whether is it business, education, farming or anything else? Progs want one thing and that is the prevention of average citizens ability to accumulate wealth, because when we accumulate wealth we do not need the government to interfere in every corner of our lives. And that is contrary to the Progressive dream. Please tell me where I am wrong? Liberals are the fascists, not conservatives.

        • Richard Pope

          Flayer,
          . . . . You have described communism in every sense of the word. President Trump will save our Republic and Democracy. We are in a severe recession and possibly even a depression. All of this has been caused by barrackie the muslim and his communist cabinet.
          GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
          Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
          rich!

          • Flayer

            Thank you, Richard. Same to you. I have some family experience with fascists and communists. My mother and grandparents had everything “liberated” or “redistributed” by the communists for 2 generations making them refugees of both communist ideology and religious discrimination three times in their lives until they finally were able to come to the “Promised Land,” the USA. I grew up with the stories and their lives as testimony. None of this was theory but real life experience.

          • AKLady2015

            And you just elected the next Hitler …

          • Flayer

            Haha. Based on what? The peeps who persecuted my family as closely aligned with Hillary and Obama and Kerry. How can the desire to reduce the overreaching power of the centralized federal government and support individual liberty be anything like Hitler, head of the Nationalist Socialist Party (NAZI)?

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            We keep trying to tell you…HILLARY LOST!!

          • AKLady2015

            Czar Trump will put us firnly under the rule of his buddy Putin.
            You have not seen anything yet.
            .
            Isn’t religious bigotry beautiful in a country based on religious freedom?
            America’s longest ally is a Muslim country.

        • AKLady2015

          Right-wing brainwashing has done a number on you.
          Unemployment goes up under Repblican administrations.
          Employment increases under Democratic admonistrations.
          Facts are what they are.

          • Flayer

            Yeah, easy to do when you fidget the numbers. Unemployment was very low under Bush for most of his term. The real numbers, that is. Labor participation high and economic growth good. I know you are really trying to rationalize but it is time to have a frank talk with yourself.

      • Kurt

        Dale, looks like you are still trying to get over Hillary’s loss. I suggest you find a nice safe place to cry with the rest of your snowflakes and buttercups.

        • AKLady2015

          No, America is trying to get over the Russian hacked election.
          Putin’s buddy is taking the White House next month.
          Our First Lady is now a Communist educated and raised woman.

      • shref40

        You are not good at talkbacks. Have you tried master bachun? Don’t let your mommy see you, though. She might spank.

      • Roger

        You’re actually a REAL A$$HOLE, eh? You cannot think clearly, because you only have ONE (sheeple) brain cell in that vacuous cavern (of nothing) that sits between you ears. And with an IQ of less than ZERO, I can see why you’re so (un)intelligent, you IDIOTIC IMBECILE !!!!!

      • Ricky

        Obviously Dale you’re a liberal idiot

      • thomas zera

        Another snowflake falls and melts.

      • Richard Pope

        Dale,
        . . . . Why don’t you pack your bags and leave. While you are at it please renounce citizenship. You are only taking up space. Everyone who supported and voted for little miss hitlery and barrackie the muslim are guilty of high treason during wartime. This is a capitol offense.
        GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
        Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
        rich!

      • AKLady2015

        They won’t understand until it is too late.
        The Germans didn’t. Hitler was to be their hero.
        Two of Trump’s wives have testified that
        he kept a book of Hitler’s sppeches on his nightstand.

      • Mathew Molk

        You GOT to be on drugs, asshole. – The Dow has been climbing since the day President Trump was elected.

        But I do agree that Martial law is a real possibility. Not for the whole country, but in places like Chicago, LA ‘Frisco, and anywhere else where they try to defy our federal immigration laws and refuse to turn over illegal invaders (Used to call them “undocumented” before we abandoned destructive PC terms)

        Just a warning to to comrade Rom. – Remember George Wallace when he refused to end segregation?

      • Clay Fitzgerald

        That’s contrary to what the market has actually done since the election. With the announcement that Trump won the Dow Jones started climbing. Why would confidence in that drop after Jan. 20?

    • The Old One

      Not soon enough for me

  • Justin Seine

    It is the natural, expected result of Liberal Democratic decision making over time. They are either totally incompetent, totally corrupt or some inconceivable blend of the two! “Gee, that failed miserably, why don’t you try it, New York, and see if you state fairs any better.” There is a very basic principle that the Libs just don’t understand – Money flows to those places where it is treated best! You want to make it more and more difficult for me and my business to succeed? – BUH BYE! We can jump off any pier in Wyoming and have a nice swim. We cannot do the same in Colorado because the state government won’t let us unless we are tethered to an anvil.

    It is just this kind of nonsense that brought victory to Trump.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d60c1f48bc9676317119d2090a536287be801cbcc0734d17487a6f898036b802.jpg

    • AKLady2015

      You mean like Nevada?
      Or Alaska?
      Or California?
      Or Florida?

      • Justin Seine

        NO! By the way, Alaska is not doing very well either. Maybe that’s because it has an infestation of folks like you!

        • AKLady2015

          Really?

          Alaska is more than three times larger than Texas.
          Our population is lower than most major U.S. cities — 736,732

          Personal per capita income is $33,568 (2003), the twelfth-highest in the country. Median household income is $69,825 (2014), ranked second in the country
          Median family income is $82,870 (2014), the fifth-highest in the country.
          Equate that to a state where there arw only two “major” cities, one of which has over 70% of the states pooulation. There are no Interstate Highways.
          No skyscrapers. Only four Walmarts. Clean air, clean water, pristine rivers and lakes, thousans of square miles of timber, good fishing ….

          Why don’t you tell us just how we are “not doing very well”?

          • Jmanjo

            With the likes of you they are doomed to failure! So much bullshit will sooner or later sink the whole state into stupidity! But since you are there at least we are safer cause you are so far away. Stay there and be very quiet!

          • Mathew Molk

            Pretty soon it’s going to be drill, baby, drill. Alaska and other places will be back on fire again.

            The snowflakes will hate it because it is going to put a ton of money in the oil companies pockets, but I could care less what how much they make. You see, I heat with fuel oil and do a LOT of driving so when this also makes the price of Fuel oil and Gasoline go down it will be smiling all the way to the bank too.

            Why is it commiecrats hate it when some one makes a buck but conservatives and libertarians only care what it means to their own bottom line????

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you. Your input is always welcome. It says so much about you.

        • ABO

          Quick, call the exterminator before she escapes.

  • mudguy1

    One more proof that you can’t fix stupid.

    • AKLady2015

      Low population.
      Low poverty.
      No excessive crime.

  • AZ443

    It’s as if they go out of their way to be stupid and contrary.

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      No, it’s normal for them.

      It would be exceedingly odd for any Conservative to act in a like manner.

    • AKLady2015

      Apparently you have mised the fact that thw majorty of Western states arw that way.

    • Bill Meyers

      Worse part is they are so very successful at it.

  • QuinsigamondMan

    Another nail in the abusive liberal unintended consequences continuing failures across this country. You saw the red and blue map after the election and those in the blue states are the only ones in serious trouble with problems beyond comprehension, hence, not sure why, other than the feel good freebie dolts who are stuck in non-productivity mode for the last 8 obozo years, who contribute nothing but whining and lots of it daily. The missing word in your platform is CAPITALISM. Damn people the Russian’s and Chinese seem be be doing well, to a point!

  • IgnoreTheFools

    The Libtards once again prove their way doesn’t work. The smart citizens of this country will move on with politicians who are smarter than a rock. Take another Toak citizens of Colorado it doesn’t matter now because your politicians are already Braindead.

  • Bama Bill

    I would like to suggest we analyze the term “Liberal”, as I don’t see how the democrats can use it? I think Conservatives are much more “Liberal”. The “Liberals” can’t accept that Hillary lost. She collected over one BILLION dollars, and spent about $890,000.000! Had all the “Lame Stream Media” on her side, as well as Michael and Barry. Restaurants post signs, “You voted for Trump, U Can’t eat here”! They riot and protest, make “Death Threats”, which you can go to jail for in Canada. Yet claim to be “Liberal”? I just don’t see how they can claim “Liberal”? Can you see my point?

    • justryn2getitright

      ‘Liberal’ isn’t the only word they’ve misused. They deliberately use words to mis-lead.
      Counting on ‘low information’ people to vote Demoncratic! Or, don’t know English!

      They tried to float “fake news’, & the country now use it towards Libs! Ha Ha!

      • big KAhuna

        All under the guise of political correctiveness— any thing to hide the truth.

        the Dems do not serve everyday Americans; nor are they our friends who care for us! They will lie, cheat, steal, take bribes, allow our enemies to get stronger as we get weaker BY THEIR HAND, and they will destroy people or have those they consider threats to their warped version of the ‘greater good’ put ‘away’, one way or another (Vince Foster, Ron Brown and many others)! They consider God and our Constitution as obstacles to their twisted agenda as both the Diety and the Document both hold them to account for their actions. Republicans are not perfect but with our assistance we can move them to where they are serving U.S. and a greater future, one with Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness as the main points of focus! Now, if we can only get the numbers required to push back all the Illegal and terrorist voters which they are trying to add to their ill-gotten voter contingent.

        The democratic platform has done way to much dammage to our country and those within to ever trust that platform again. The icing on the cake was their selection of a devout Muslim ( OBummer) to serve as our POTUS ( Who swore to be a Christian- nonsense). And now they want to put the most corrupt and lieing candidate
        To ever run – Hildabeast in charge. Their is no end to their corruption and destruction to our values/constitution/Allies. They promote: gay rights, abortion ( responsible for 100 million deaths of fetuses), athiesm ( taking God out of America),illegal immigration, Muslim immigration (people who will try to destroy our way of life- sharia law), socialism ( sponsor is Sorros), communism, ignoring our constitution ( all swore to support it before taking public office), world order/takeover, corruption, and cheating at the polls to get their ways— they are the “SATIN” within America and have lost their way. No wonder a record amount of democrats are abandoning this platform by the thousands after showing its ugly head.

        • lll%

          Hear Hear, 1000^

    • shref40

      Point taken, loud and clear. From a proud Deplorable.

    • Justin Seine

      They are the party that breaks you leg, hands you a crutch and proudly proclaims that if not for them you would be unable to walk!

      • ProudDeplorable

        Great analogy!!! Fits right in with the “crippling” affect of the dems in charge.

    • Francisco Machado

      “Liberal” is a name, not a description. Like Obamacare is called the ACA, Affordable Care Act. That’s a name. It obviously isn’t affordable. Exchanges are bankrupt, insurance companies are bailing out, risk corridor pays pennies on the dollar, billions (illegally) taken from other programs to support it, but it’s called “affordable.” Same with “Liberal.” The “Care” part – availability of that is fading, too. You can’t “keep your doctor.”

    • Richard Pope

      Bill,
      . . . . They are communists. Actually making death threats here are also criminal. Yep, even with 100s of millions of dollars to finance the campaign they still lost. Their dogma got run over by their karma. If a business doesn’t want me there because of who I voted for then fine I will take my business elsewhere. I won’t sue them. This is entirely different from what a democommie will do. We have seen it happen in a lot of places in the US.
      GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
      Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
      rich!

      • Bama Bill

        Ya might like to know, it was not “Hundreds of millions”. In fact it was only ONE, BILLION! But the good news is she only spent over $890,000,000. Trump from what I’ve read spent $150,000,000??? They are supported by the unions. Unions have had laws passed that allow them to LEGALLY assault you and do property damage. But not kill you. They rammed my new car with a semi while it was legally parked on private property with permission. When I phoned the Detroit police they asked, “Was anyone seriously injured”? When I said no, they said to come to the police station and file a report.
        Mafia took over the unions, unions own the Democrats, all federal contracts MUST go to guess who? “Union Workers”. Can you see the “Merry Go Round”?

  • Mike W

    California is losing jobs everyday as well. High paying high tech jobs moving because of the outrageously high cost, taxes and regulations involved in of doing business there. I was in California in September and could not believe how bad it looks. It used to be a beautiful state I remember very high fines for littering and though there was smog in L.A. it still looked clean. Now it looks like a third world country, garbage and graffiti everywhere enough parts pushed to the sides on the freeways to build a car. People passed out on the sidewalks and other people just stepping over or walking around them. California is over $476 billion in debt and rising quickly – that’s almost 1/2 a trillion dollars in debt and they keep voting for more of the same. And they think they are the enlightened ones?

    • justryn2getitright

      Wait til Trump starts cutting Federal funding in California for it’s ‘sanctuary cities’.
      The rest of the country hopes it takes years for California’s part of the fence gets built.

      Maybe then Hillary & Hollywood’s elite will fund raise for it’s people instead of wasting money on corrupt Progressive candidates. Clooney, where are you when you’re needed?

      • Flayer

        When the illegals are booted out or leave of their own accord we will have a very interesting result in the 2020 census. Now we have representation depending on population – legal or illegal. This may cause CA to lose reps, not a bad thing. Remember even if they supposedly don’t vote at the polls they skew the size and resources of government by being counted in the general population.

    • Roger

      The “enlightened ones”? You mean just like governor MOONBEAM?

  • Chuck

    Stupid is an incurable Democrat/Liberal/Progressive disease. Look at Chicago. The Mayor, declaring it a sanctuary city say you will be “safe” here.” Right!!!!! How many were shot, wounded and killed over the Christmas holiday weekend? Over the past year? Heck, Syria is safer. Typical moronic Democrat who opens mouth without engaging brain. Wait. I made an assumption the the D/L/Ps have brains. My mistake.

    • shref40

      Good point. While we can count the questionable shootings by cops *on one hand* in the last five years, in that same five years Chicago alone contributed 8144 dead young black males shot by other young black males mostly defending their drug turf. Black Lives Matter, probably run directly from the White House, doesn’t like to talk about that.

      • The Old One

        IF they keep it up they might just eradicate themselves. What a thought

        • BIGOTIST

          That would be a beautiful thing!!!!!
          They have to be encouraged to get the numbers higher~

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        • Rob D

          I will give them free ammo!

        • jjmcl431

          i hope every day for that to happen.

        • Laddyboy

          SHHHHhhhh! You are referring to the founder of the PP organization that government FORCES Americans to pay @500,000,000.00 per year.
          Oh! by the way her name was Margaret H. Sanger. She was a political “lefty”.

          • GrizzMann

            She also adopted a NAZI program for her motto, Auswahlfreiheit, translated to Freedom Of Choice.

          • Libs R Loons

            Actually, Hitler adopted Sanger’s (1922) program and went on to eradicate Jews and others who disagreed with him during WW2. But I’m with you in spirit.

          • irish1919

            Exactly.

          • irish1919

            Yeah her freedom of choice to eliminate the black population. A democrat. Robert Byrd a democrat. Both racists. LBJ racist . Jew hater also. Too many dem racists to count. Hell any of your left wing nut jobs today are racist. There policies alone tell you that. Greater unemployment elimination of the middle class more people on government assistance more power. Not hard to figure out if one has half a brain.

          • glorybe2

            It is not politics that is causing unemployment. By believing that you are turning upon yourself. Automation and technology are doing exactly what has always been the only goal of technology. You buy an electric can opener because it requires less labor than a mechanical can opener. As technology progresses more and more human effort is eliminated. That directly means less and less employment. Technology can not be stopped as all nations try to use it as much as possible and we have to compete in the world wide markets. The only answer is a direct from the government, very real income for all people. By the way, there is a power of God like toggle point in technology. That is when not only the workers and managers are replaced by automation but that final point in which machines own the corporation. There really are ways that that can come to pass.
            Right now when Ford or GM designs a vehicle the major design consideration is not whether Americans like it built a certain way. The big markets are China and India and it makes far better business sense to make certain that the Chinese and Indian peoples see what they want in the product. A company can sell far more cars in either of those nations than in the US. The point being that things are changing fast and are already all around you. But most people are sort of blind as to what is going on. But if you expect things to go your way in the near future you will be very unhappy.

          • Kathy W

            People are only indispensable for their creative minds. Technology can’t do that. As people become freed from doing the jobs that technology can imitate, they will find other ways to be useful and earn a living. We are all smart enough for that. We just have to think in new ways.

            I agree that allowing things to be made in other countries makes sense sometimes and it is like technology, we will find better ways to make a living. Also, free trade is usually a good idea but we are in a crisis. I think that our leaders will understand that. We do need a leader who understands all of business. I think we are going to be okay.

          • glorybe2

            To me your reply would be true if conditions were as they were 40 years ago. For example, recently a super computer saved a cancer patients life. He had Leukemia and the treatment that should work was having no good effect. The doctors were baffled and fed all the medical info they had into a super computer. It turns out that the man had two very different forms of leukemia at the same time and testing was not revealing that rare condition. As soon as the man received treatments for both types of leukemia he came right back up to being functional and on his way to complete recovery. It really can no longer be said that computers do not create original thoughts. They just do so differently. Put a strong chess program on your PC and it will become very evident to you.
            The question now becomes whether a foreign robot or automated factory can do better and cheaper work than an American unit. Bringing factories back to the US will have only a tiny effect on our employment situations. It might even make us worse off. For example, suppose you have stock in Toyota. Toyota has 130,000 US employees as well as foreign factories and employees. Now suppose we apply taxes to Toyota for making some cars outside the US. That could make Toyota stock worth less and thus American investors would have less income to buy goods and services inside the US. Politicians can point their pinky fingers in the air and stir the rabble with all kinds of nonsense but the reality is that there are no simple or easy solutions that the public can accept or they would have been done already. Here is another example. A fellow living in a large city went into high gear and created a home that was completely off the grid. He had zero sewage output, zero need for a power line or phone line and had his own water supply system. His home was working out wonderfully. The city went into such a panic that they actually arrested him. Imagine a home that needed no city water, no electric input and no need for a sewer connection. How can you get taxes out of such a person? Obviously the city had to retreat from its position. But by applying thought in the design of his home and using appropriate technology the man had effectively stepped right out of the economic and social net. Imagine if 30% of the people in your town did the same thing. What would your water, power and trash bills look like?

          • Kathy W

            What a beautifully written and informative post. Thank you so much. Just like the Industrial Revolution changed man’s thinking in ways nobody could ever imagine, so will this new age, which we have already begun.

            Your argument for free trade is great. I believe you are correct. I think that Trump has surrounded himself with experts that believe like you do. He is doing something for the morale of this country and to put us into a better position for more self-serving trade agreements. I believe they understand the effects of what they are doing and he has a creative enough mind to not get stuck in a rut like the libs do, who are about a century behind in their thinking.

            When freedom is given to people, which the Obama administrations was taking away in a mammoth power grab, they come up with revolutions we cannot imagine now. Sure we can be creative in a Communist country but freedom incentivizes us to think outside the box.

            You have a gift for explaining things that is rare. I am hoping that you teach at the university level. If you don’t, something is wrong with this country. I know there is something wrong in the universities.

          • JYuma

            The Communist country are not creative. They have stolen most of all the Tech. knowledge from the West. Being creative is not a thing that they teach in their schools as we did until 1977 .
            If they did that their people would not stay Communist.
            glorybe2. Can be very logical, he is very intelligent. He is however a Progressive from his Sole.

          • Kathy W

            Thanks. You are right. Both China, a Communist country, and India, a free but poor country, have more geniuses than we have people. I assumed they had plenty of creative potential. I think freedom helps creativity. This past administration says, “Can’t be done” all the time. They close their minds because they haven’t tried and are frozen by thinking that humans are bad for the planet and all kinds of nonsense. We know we are limitless and God is a bountiful God. God created us with free choice and that freedom makes us thrive and grow.

          • JYuma

            Amen!

          • curmudgeon VN Veteran

            She wished to use abortion to cause genocide on black people. So strange how blacks support PP and the democRAT and liberal democRATs who wish to cleanse society of them. No way to ever cure stupid.

          • Rob1911a1

            None of them know history; they don’t know that Margaret Sanger was a vicious racists who found PP to try to get rid of as many black babies as possible. Typical Democrat, and typical of them to support her.

          • JYuma

            I had one send me a Link, where the NAARCP, wrote that she was a Very Good friend, and a member of. This I had kept that. I laughed til I cried.

          • irish1919

            She was a proponent of Black genocide . That was the whole basis for planned parenthood . She was a racist by definition yet the left idolizes her as a heroine. Really?? The Dems have always been racist but paint the false narrative that they are the saviors of Black America . Sad part is black America hasn’t a clue who Margaret Sanger was and what she promoted??? Pretty sad. Planned parenthood has never been about women’s health.

          • Mary Brumley

            I read that she located her “killing facilities” in close proximity to black communities.

          • irish1919

            Absolutely. Planned parenthood was a front for black genocide . Today they say it about women’s health which is a blatant lie. Planned parenthood is still nothing but a tax payer funded abortion mlll. They need to be defunded. No taxpayer who believes in the sanctity of life should be forced to pay for it. Now they sell body parts and abort right up to last month. It’s a real horror show and should be unfounded. Let them practice their inhuman practices on their own dime. Even today most of the aborted children are black.

          • JYuma

            That part of Plannned Parenthood should be shut down.
            The do ,have other parts of their organization , that does help women with there Health.
            That part should be allowed to go forward, with NO Federal Funds.

          • irish1919

            All of it. There primary function is abortion. Get private funding from all those pro choice people. They want their abortions them pay for them. Don’t use my tax money to support your God less ideology.

          • JYuma

            It is not MY Godless Ideology. It Is my Tax dollars .
            As I stated the Murder of baby’s is just a part of what Planned Parenthood does.
            Girls, Young Women, Adult women, and OLD women , without any money, or any clinics to treat women problems . Most PP clinic’s are in poor , rural areas, areas where most other health professionals will not or can not go.
            If you Will READ the Law , it states that NO FEDERAL FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR ABORTIONS. I , agree with that.
            Vert little of PPs money comes from the Federal Government . Most comes from Private Funding, they are not able to receive enough Funding from the Private Donors, the fact that they build clinics in Rural and down traded areas, the government agreed to fund the PART of PP that does not DO ABORTIONS.
            Tell me. If PP is defunded in Totality . Where are the Poor women to get their women Health Care that they need?

          • Mary Brumley

            But it seems to me that any Federal funds that are specifically used for NON-abortion health care simply frees money from the donors with a killing mentality to be used for abortion! So aren’t my taxes still being used to enable abortion?

          • JYuma

            No. dis- allowing our Tax money to help provide health care for those that can not get it any other way, is no more a waste than Welfare, or Food Stamps.
            We must stay on top of PP to make sure that they do not cheat however.
            As for private donors providing money to then as that they may continue to Muurder Baby’s. There is nothing that we can do.Like it or not.
            Abortion IS legal [ by an insane Ruling of SCOTUS].

          • Mary Brumley

            I know it is “legal,” much to my chagrin. I am embarrassed for my country concerning that.
            Could not the establishments be separated into different clinics? Free healthcare and abortion clinics?
            I am associated with several young, jobless and sometimes homeless women. They go to the emergency rooms for health care. I have no knowledge of a PP clinic in this area. There are privately sponsored drug rehabilitation places. If the women are pregnant, they treat them.

          • JYuma

            Mine too. Muder is Muder no matter what they call it.
            There should be Clinic that treat low income and homeless people in you city. Check with the City and County where you live. Many Church groups have them.

          • Mary Brumley

            I will check that. I suppose I just thought I would have heard about such a place. My church has a free food and drink pantry, so I have met many of the poor, sick and homeless. Our Pastor tries to find homes for the homeless. We used have a free shelter for homeless men, but it became cost prohibitive for our small church. Several of us, including Pastor, just take them into our homes and help them.
            I know taking in strangers isn’t for everyone, but I enjoy it. When I encounter problems, Pastor addresses them.

          • JYuma

            As HARD as it may sound. I would not allow a homeless person into my house. There have been too many helping hands killed by them. If some one comes to my house, I will have them do some work for me, give them $10 an hour to do it, feed them ,then it’s See you Later.

          • Mary Brumley

            I actually do believe you are wiser than I am. Still, I have been known to and seen carrying a firearm. That kind of reputation spreads quickly in the sad little town in which I live. I am not messed with.

          • JYuma

            I live in a Town of 1500 people. over half of them are of Mexican decent, few Blacks , a few more Indians. I believe from what I am told about30% of the Mexicans,and Blacks are in the drug business. We are but 80 miles north of the border, with only Desert between .
            I too Carry , I too am not bothered.
            It is a Good Town. No body bothers anyone else, for the most part.

          • Kathy W

            Birth control helps people gain control over their lives but abortion dehumanizes us.

          • irish1919

            Good point. Why does the left always claim Planned parenthood is all about women’s health? Other than abortion what services do they perform which women couldn’t get in a community center, hospital doctors office or even a drug store for that matter. They are about abortion and the taxpayers should not have to pay for it. Abortion is a huge money maker and is the only reason they exist . Margaret Sanger started planned parenthood and put it in the cities for a reason. It’s called black genocide. The left worships her and she was a forerunner for the Nazi Master race ideology . Disgusting and they call Trump Supporters deplorable . Really???? But then I’d rather be deplorable then a supporter of murder. None of us have the last word. We all answer to a higher power. Amazing how BLM except for murders of black on black and the murder of the black unborn . What a hypocritical hate group they are.

          • JYuma

            PP, does care for women health , other than Abortion. I many cases, the only place for women to get health care is from them, for there are no clinics, . Hospitals, E R rooms are for urgent medical health problems. I do not believe that PP should do health care and Abortions in the same building.

          • JYuma

            They STIIL are. Young Lady.
            It is Murder, not Killing!

        • Ronney

          I’m going to buy a case of 9mm shells an place a box on each Street corner. Just trying to help BLM.

          • Michael Dennewitz

            I have now, 13 boxes of hollow point 9mm in my hall closet. Half of them have a drop of pig’s blood in them. 😉😂😃 (the .380’s do too). heehee

          • Janet Julien

            Good going!

          • Libs R Loons

            On that note, it occurred to me that our US compound in Benghazi would have been better protected by spraying pigs’ blood around the perimeter instead of relying on the Hildebeast to protect them.

          • irish1919

            Good point.

          • Mary Brumley

            Libs R Loons Hey, we should get this idea to Germany! They could spray pig’s blood on the Muslim protesters and law breakers! Do you suppose they might just implode?

          • JYuma

            Lets try that in Mich. and Wis.. Bet it will work.

          • RICHARD

            I think I will dip mine also.

          • headonstraight

            Well, now, doesn’t THAT make you one bad-ass dude?! Are you lobbying your state legislature to create an open season on Muslims? What would the daily bag limit be?

          • Mary Brumley

            In my “neck of the woods,” if a militant Muslim attacked our school(s), we wouldn’t need an “open season” to take care of the situation.

          • headonstraight

            Which one of your veins did you tap to obtain that Muslim repellent?

          • The Old One

            Tell me when you plan to proceed with your plan. I am willing to participate with 2 boxes.

          • GOPTrash

            Communist PIG

          • JYuma

            Who? For what?

          • Mary Brumley

            GOPTrash, did you just voice “Oink, oink”? I think you did. Come on piggy, piggy GOPTrash, time for your slop.

          • GOPTrash

            Pig communist poster

          • GOPTrash

            your a pig

          • Mary Brumley

            ME? A pig? Well, hello fellow piggy GOPTrash! Good to meet ya! Just NEVER call me a “liberal”! I will become your worst nightmare!

          • JYuma

            Mary, His understandings and word vocabulary is like his Ejakatshun. Very, Very limited.
            I have an 80 lbs Turtle in my back yard that has more Indigence than trash .

          • Ronney

            Thank you, anything I can do to help.

        • Mary Brumley

          But that won’t happen as long as families are popping out babies because it enables them to receive more welfare!
          Wouldn’t it be easier if the tubes of women were tied after the first child born of a woman on welfare? And add random drug testing to be required.
          I think the “right” to have a child should be linked with the ability to support that child.

          • JYuma

            Legally, we can not tie the Tubs of women on Welfare. However, we can, require that Drug, test be past.
            Many states have laws that to be on Welfare, receive Food stamps, a person must pass a Drug test, must be looking for work, with papers to prove so. Have a job the pays lees than in costs them to pay for Housing, food and clothing.
            It is all so a Federal Law. That was past during the Bush years.
            We need to enforce Standing Law.

          • Mary Brumley

            In FL, Governor Scott has required food stamps recipients to do public service if they have no job. I don’t know under what circumstances. Surely it wouldn’t include a mother with a preschool child and certainly not the handicapped.

          • JYuma

            Many Handicap people are able to work, Do something .. Some can not. Women with preschool children are able to do things also.
            I have a Daughter has made her living working on a computer for years.
            Most people would rather earn their living than have it given to them.

          • Mary Brumley

            You are totally right, yet some folk really don’t seem to understand they must have a skill or acquire a skill in today’s economy. They REALLY don’t get it!
            They just cripple along doing odd jobs until they have lost everything.
            I am placing my hope on and believing that the Trump administration will change our nation’s ( seemingly) rush to implode! I wish to see the day again that even the unskilled and uneducated folk can at least afford to survive without government assistance! Most of those I know resent not being able to earn their own living however simple that living was/is.

          • JYuma

            As I do. That is the Main reason that I voted for him.
            I believe that he is our LAST Chance.

          • The Old One

            Good concept, but let me improve on mine to see if yours becomes unnecessary, or cheaper to implement: (just worrying about the cost to taxpayers), instead of a couple of ammo cases, let’s drop a couple dozens.

      • irish1919

        Where is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and BLM. Where is the NAACP? Where is OBAMA and the DOJ. Where is the lame street media . None to be found. Only going after white cops. Ridiculous. All these people and groups are racist They don’t care about the black lives. A total joke.

        • GrizzMann

          They have expanded, now, all cops.

        • jim_shipley

          Most dnc controlled cities have has massive crime increases due to their anti law projects.

          • roy paul shields

            And that is an on record fact; Democrats or liberals=lost!!

          • avery

            most murders occur in big cities. democrats control most of the big cities.

          • jim_shipley

            Some thing just speak for them selves.

            https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=fhm8a0fsl8tn4#2505107402

          • ward

            That big city crap is where most of the libtard idiots of crime hang out to get their undeserved welfare and can steal more from the other socialistic libtard idiots … !

          • brucethompson22

            People should look up the history of Illinois State and Chicago Dems. and see how many have gone to jail. Three Governors and how many from Chicago like Jesse Jackson Jr.and others.One was arrested getting on a plane with a loaded gun in his carry on and the Lamestream media said, “But he didn’t have one in th Chamber”

          • ward

            This crimes were in the bo regime of criminal cover up for any of his cronies that supported his abuse of power regime from a muslim, marxist hell ! The “hope” for a “change” in the Trump Administration will indict & prosecute bo, hilary & any of his cronies that supported bo’s wannabe dictatorship.. ! High treason is the name & execution is the same for citizenship or noncitizen as a spy creating collusion.. !

          • JYuma

            Here is a Map. It is a Election Map, however it will show what you have stated.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a181f0fa7a234a6b13450be0aec959792f1a28431f2344ac891cad1faff5ad57.jpg
            The Blue is the Democrats and most of the Crimes.
            Most of the interior Blue is Indian Reservations.

          • irish1919

            Let them. If the law abiding people want to continue to put them in office then they deserve what they get. All cities have been run by Dems for as much as 100 years and they are still crime infested and corrupt entities . Nothing changes if nothing changes.

          • ward

            The dems in gov are put there by the ignorant that believe socialism will give them a big piece of freeloading pie but only end with a big pile of shit in prison or poor !

          • Terramom

            And it’s so frustrating, because those big cities can control the whole state, such as Chicago does here in Illinois.

          • ward

            YES; after 8 years of bo, democrats have tagged themselves as crime instigators and the #1 destruction of U.S. National Security & Constitutional Freedom … !

          • glorybe2

            The very reason that those areas tend to be democratic is that the republican policies left those cities in a state of destruction and malfunction. The people in the ghetto are not confused about who their enemies are.

          • ward

            One reaps what they soe & freeloaders with dem backing to create libtatd socialistic asses that are flat ass lazy while republizcans work to support the country … ! Get your shit straight the dems are the root of a socialistic dictatorship & U.S. problems !

          • J_in_TX

            It was LBJ and his policies that started the destruction of the black family. That began the destruction of the inner cities. The voters finalized it by electing one Democrat mayor after another. Look at Detroit. It has been run by corrupt Democrat mayors, many of whom have gone to prison, for 60 years. Chicago, LA, Baltimore, D.C., and so on. Your showing either your liberal bias or ignorance by saying Republicans are to blame.

        • Antogeny

          They care about 1 half-Black life – DumBO’s! Some of them still think he’s the Messiah, when they are no better off, and probably worse off, than they were 8 years ago!

          • marihia

            47 million of ’em are on welfare

          • glorybe2

            I doubt that there are 47 million people of color in the US. And no, most black folks are not on welfare.

          • ward

            B.S. ; get the facts from the government welfare statistics … !

          • ward

            And blame someone else for their own lazy asinine libtard short comings … !

          • irish1919

            13 million more on food stamps and millions more on welfare. Absolutely he is a failure. But then according to Saul Alinsky he is successful because he takes freedom away from the masses Necessary for tyrany. Dems are so far to the left that they have become the national communist party. They are doubling down even now and will never come back toward the middle. How any socially conservative Dems stay with them is beyond me.

          • blogengeezer

            Educated by the Occidental College is one clue to CPUSA. Hawaii is in the tank for that one. Explains the Johanna Ah’Nee official birth certificate used as the base original for the ‘claimed’ Obama copy.

          • JYuma

            I thought that Occidental College was in Califoricasia. But as young as your you maybe right.

            Oh, Ya. Thats a Wimpy Little Beard ya got there.
            If it ain’t long nuff to cover the ” Mary Sue, Tattoo ” on your chest.” Now that your married to Rose Ann , your in trouble.

          • blogengeezer

            Get back to your WAPO, “Russians hacked the Vermont power grid”, story. It’s waiting for you and your glorious leader to resolve the issue of… ‘how did the porn virus get onto the office laptop’..? As an apparent expert on the subject, It is waiting for your… investigation…

            Please solve the ‘misunderstood’ and “Disrespected” mantra surrounding the ‘Pols’. Those that apparently claim that “ALL of the USA is swamped in non productive, perpetually dependency addicted Feral relationships, with predictable lust generated random Spawn of crime and drugs, subsidized by tax Payers”…. therefore Hillary, as their experienced Representative.. should have won..

          • JYuma

            China did that.
            Porn on laptops? Very likely from some person logging on one of them ,while at work. I am not a Expert on any thing. Just like you I know a little about a few things.
            You still have a Wimpy Beard.
            Thats easy, their Snowflakes .
            You still have a Wimpy Beard.
            The Perpetually dependency Addicted are mainly in the Democrat controlled areas for this country. Not the rest of the 70% of the country and people that were RAISED as you and I were. To Work, Take care of ourselves.
            You Still have a Wimpy Beard.
            heller LOST the Election because Intelligent people ,like you and I, including many democrats, could not in GOOD conscience, in FEAR of what she may do that would be WORST than o’bozo did.
            The Rumblings of the Democrats, Progressives, Communists, to say nothing of the perpetual Gimies, ya gata take care of me’s. Are nothing more than the rumblings you get in your gut just before you let a smelly Fart go.
            You STILL have a Wimpy Beard.
            That how ever is Just my Opinion.
            As a Grower of one that is TWICE the SIZE of your Wimpy Beard. I can say that.

          • blogengeezer

            Grew it in three months for another movie role. I do ‘background’ in the local NM film industry and change characters depending on the theme required.

            It was grown explicitly for ‘The Lone Ranger’. A Disney film {they pay the best and feed well] Had to skip the two month employment, due to a family health issue interfering.

            Much prefer westerns, old over the hill gunfighter, sea captain etc. ‘Appaloosa’, I was the carpenter building Ed Harris’s little house. Saloon scenes, hanging Bragg’s new sign. Comanche Moon, rode around in carriage with my lady, as the Banker, or fighting Indians in the street as Austin was burning… That was Really Fun. We really…burned the town.

            Still working, as you note. Never collected welfare, would starve first.

          • JYuma

            I started mine when I had to rede a BIKE all year round to go to work, 60 MPH gets a bit chilly on the face , in -Zero weather.
            Thats strange, I was in Centennial, all ovum. Got Killed in EVER one.
            Have been in a few here, Posse , is one that you are able to seem beard, got a Face shot.
            “Comanche Moon? That about the MOST disrepeated Indian Tribe in American and Texas?
            I believe that I have the Book.
            We are on the same side as to the contention of this country, I wish sometimes that we could go back to the days of the west. Where people had to work or starve . They Worked.

          • blogengeezer

            Enjoyed Centennial. Great story of accumulative scenarios. Check out… ‘Hell on Wheels’… Netflix and cable. Very historic, realistic [no PC edits] depiction of life… and death.. as the Union Pacific rail system under Durant, progressed to meet the Central Pacific at Promontory Point Utah.

            Larry McMurtry wrote based on ‘fact’. Our family documentation has original diaries, written into books obviously used by McMurtry.. almost word for word, on life during those days of ‘Survival of the Fittest’. ‘Comanche Moon’, as was ‘Lonesome Dove’, was Real life. Very minimal few of today’s govt subsidized snowflakes, would ever survive.

            Traveling through family holdings while RV touring, reveals several roadside markers describing incidents of violence in connection to ancestors. San Saba County Texas was the last officially laid US pavement. Tommy Lee Jones is from San Saba Texas. Ancestors were neighbors. Propensity for violence [most were lawmen] follows them…. to this day.

          • JYuma

            It was Fun, drove ambulance for standby. I was talking to one of the crew who had been in 7 Days in May. He was one of the Marines that slid down the rope, then into the Sub. ,he ask if I saw the movie, When I told him that I was the second Marine that did the repealing before he slid down , the rope, then into the Sub, because of my beard he asked if I would like to get Killed? Sounded like fun, so they Killed me an Scalped me. From there, I was done in a lot of ways in every show.
            My daughter and I were in Posse, I was a Farmer at the Indians Ladys hanging , she was my wife, we were in a couple of others, in Tucson.
            Posse, was my last, I have not been well enough to do that for a will.I meet McMurtry, Read Most of his books, he like two or three other writers of Western History are accurate. I liked him until I found that he is a Very Rude, and argumentative person ( we should have got along in that regard)
            I was raised by a man that was just like the “Capm”, and good bit like Gus.

            Been to San Saba a time or two, Have a Great friend that has a couple of Ranches in Lampassass.
            My Father was born in Comanche, Tx.. My family has a Long History in Texas, all the way back to ‘1820’, one even died in the Alamo , I am named for him. One was at “Adobe Walls”
            If you Really like reading Texass, Read In the Days of Victorio, Mamm Jones of the Pacos. You could also find a lot of History of Texass, and the Comanches, by reading,Empire of the Summer Moon, by S.C. Gwynne!.
            You will find that members of my Family are very much entwined in it.
            I’ll not tell you what it is about, however you will find were MacMurtry got his research for the Comanche Moon.

          • blogengeezer

            Just being ‘family’…. ‘Good, Bad,,, and Ugly’, as history has documented since first recorded.. :>)
            http://kxan.com/2014/04/29/the-death-of-the-pecan-queen/

          • JYuma

            One half of my family has been chasing the either half of it for as far back as we are able to check.
            That was a Bad one, I had not heard about it. I will ask my friend what he knows.
            He was surprised to find out that I had relatives from all three sides of my Family down in that area. Well one side moved West then North in the 1870’s.
            History is amazing, when you start reading the History of things that the School books and Hollywood haven’t changed.

          • blogengeezer

            One faction of the family from San Saba, got in a fight over one girl. Brothers, both Lawmen [part time family business to ranching. Helped to be ‘badged’ when dealing with professional cattle rustlers], then parted ways, one brother and relatives involved in the somewhat violent feud, driving their wagon train of collected gear, all of the way to Half Way Oregon. Homesteaded and prospered.

            We visited a few years back and ate apples from the old, still standing but vacant and in disrepair, home ranch in the beautiful high mountain valley. Gateway to a wild river Hell’s canyon, it is very isolated, substantially more than an hour out of Baker..

            One kin, ‘Snaky’ by local name, they say he was bit ‘special’, locals we talked to, remembered stories of him to this day, was famous for working horses. A real life ‘Horse Whisperer’.

            Today’s liberals could not survive back then. Had to be greedy ….and super tough, yet willing to assist, work with each other….but Only if you took a liken’ to them.

          • JYuma

            I know what you mean. The name of the books that I told you about, Mam Jones, Victorio, West of the Pacos, were written by Eva Ball.
            They are First Person books. There are about the West side of New Mexico.
            Most people do not know that the states of the West were settled mostly by Texans, Mexicans, and Mormons.
            Your family moving to Oregon and prospering is a standard story for Texans, they’d well near every where they settled after the Great War. Grand dad was good at killing “Rattlers” he hated them. I have been struck twice, made me sick, never swelled or adverse effects
            from either.
            Never was a good Horseman. Dad and granddad were,as my uncles.
            Most of the people today almost faint when one talks of a fight or a very bad auto wreck that a person is killed or very endured in. They could not take care of themselves if their lives depended on it.
            I was taught to live off this desert that I live in, how to help others that need help.

          • blogengeezer

            You would enjoy reading this one as well. Hard to find, great read. Just another of the brothers from San Saba Texas. Lawman, as was their destiny. As Buffalo hunters, they did very well. Guthrie wrote a song about one of them.

            They always were given territorial badges, US Marshals, Sheriff, whatever was most profitable [bounties] to maintain Law and Order. Dee died of old age… after getting his young ‘nurse’ pregnant. :>)

            https://www.amazon.com/Mean-As-Hell-Mexico-Lawman/dp/0941270602

          • ward

            Really … ? Russian commies are the U.S. Enemy without a doubt but now there is no doubt socialist dem libtards are in the same category & the worst U.S. enemy !

          • Mustafa Curtess

            That’s funny! But notice that they can live with it when they find out that there’s plenty to go around (and there’s others that have had a share – besides just the one in the tattoo.) Hah! Mary Sue probably insisted on the tattoo as a “token of his un-dying love”- about a year before she run off with Leroy or Claude – or whoever.

          • JYuma

            He actually turned out to be a Good guy.

          • Mustafa Curtess

            Lol! I never suggested otherwise.

          • JYuma

            Ah! Yessss..
            I happen to now couple of those.
            One Wife I know tried to get her Husband to Have it covered with something else. He Refused.
            Told her it would be over his Dead body before that was Changed.
            She , did not say a thing. The Next time that they were to be Hide the Salome .
            He became , Highly, and Greatly Upset.
            It seems, That before, She Had no Tattoos. No, A bit below her Waist line. She Now had one that Said.
            John.
            He, missed work the next day to have HIS Covered by another.

          • JYuma

            Oh, Ya.
            She Washed hers off, after he had shown her his New Tat.

          • Mustafa Curtess

            Lol! Never under-estimate a female! (I should have seen that one coming. Very Nice!)

          • Mustafa Curtess

            Ah! The limitless power of jealousy and Narcissism! And the sub-conscious appeal of slavery.

          • avery

            back on the birther stuff again?

          • CEM in MO

            Why don’t you address that question to Hillary, who is the one that started it during her ’08 campaign.

          • JYuma

            Just because you do not believe it, nor have you ever researched it. Does not make it True.
            Are you Afraid that if you or he admits[ as he did in one of his books] that he was born in Kenya., that he could not be president? Thats untrue.

          • Jim McGann

            DAMN RIGHT! HE’NOT A US CITIZEN. PERIOD

          • ward

            Well, for sure bo is not Patriotc U.S. Citizen with his abuse of power E.O.’s and law violations bypassing congress ! So bo must be a traitor when he unilaterally E.O.’s illegal foreigners & muslim terrorists into the U.S. then lets criminals along with terrorists out of prison to really screw up the U.S. Patriotic Citizens Freedom ! What country is bo really supporting when his actions question his birth place ….?What has bo really done to behoove the U.S.A. in his 8 years of defying citizens ?

          • ward

            WHY NOT the bo birth wasn’t in the U.S.A. and no one did anything about all his crimes against the U.S.A. in 8 years so now no one can cover his ass for treason !

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          • avery

            gw. bush raised the amount of money a person could make in order to receive food stamps. that and the recession that occurred during his tenure led to large increase in the number on food stamps. obama had little or nothing to do with that or the number on welfare.

          • JYuma

            What year did he do that? I had not heard about that.

          • ward

            Bush didn’t do the “avery thing” but he is a libtard with usual lies & created B.S. !

          • JYuma

            ard, you will get no argument form me that Bush did stuff that was against the best for this country.
            However he did do stuff that that showed we would stand up to those that wished us Ill. That attacked us, thinking that we were pushovers.

          • ward

            Agree that Bush did well for the Patriotic U.S. Citizens but what happened to his brains and patriotism is the same question asked about McCain when both Bush’s supported the criminal hilary & bo with asinine support for socialistic dictators..!..?

          • JYuma

            Bush was an Genteel Conservative.
            Maccain was, is a DEMOCRATE. Always has been, ALWAYS Will be.
            This may make you Mad.
            Maccian, is NOT a HERO. Never has been.

            “Sitting in a Prison, even if Tortured , DOES not make a Man a Hero.”

            Ask the Commander of the American Troops that survived the Bataan Death March , who Marched and sat out the Totality of the War in the Pacific.
            Those are HIS words.

          • ward

            MAKE ME MAD ; no , BUT MAC’S TURN COAT DECEITFUL, LIBTARD, DEM SUPPORTING STENCH REALLY MAKES ONE WANT TO FIRE HIS ASS ASAP WITHOUT ANY BENEFITS OR PENSION ALONG WITH BO HE IS A TRAITOR !

          • JYuma

            The word “Traitor as been Changed.
            It is now Pronounced “Democrat”.

          • ward

            With bo duped libtard freeloading, idiots for confirmation ; … RIGHT ?

          • JYuma

            Rite on Broooooooooo!

          • ward

            So what if bo had nothing to do with your history, the present problems in the U.S. are created in 8 years of bo’s abuse of power & dereliction of duty to his POTUS sworn oath ! bo’s treason is obvious & the DOJ with congress let bo off the hook !

          • JYuma

            Then how come it rose to 47% from 35%, that it was when o’bozo took Office?

          • ward

            bo has proven in his 8 years of internal destruction to the U.S.A. & being a muslim wannabe dictator that has failed to dictate the U.S. with illegals & muslims he E.O.’d into the U.S.A. ! bo’s justice for crimes of treason is indictments 2017 !

          • Sandy Hensley

            Every time the liberal media interviews Obama the audience is waiting for them to get on their knees and kiss his feet and the liberal media only talks about the things that would make Obama and the liberal party look better and never report any law’s Obama and the liberal party have broken since the beginning of his dictatorship and never talk about anyone in the liberal party that has committed crimes except once in a while they talk about the person that broke the law BUT THEY DON’T SAY IT WAS A LIBERAL THAT BROKE THE LAW leaving it open for their audience to figure it out on their own and since their audience is liberals you know which party they assumed broke the law. The liberal media never mention how liberals have destroyed the states they are running or the cost of living in liberals states and their taxes are higher then any other state. I really don’t know how people in New York can afford to live their rent is huge and even a hamburger there is twice what it is in Republican ran states ! I don’t understand how the people of Colorado could ignore the destruction Obama and liberals have caused our country just to be able to grow pot and now liberals are taxing the pot grown in that state so I think the people of Colorado never thought liberals would tax pot just like cigarettes and it shouldn’t surprise them that liberals would be coming after their guns and knowing the liberal party they’ll pretty much go after all their freedoms and run the state into the ground !

          • Antogeny

            Can’t agree more! I live in Colorado – and now that the fools in California have driven their taxes up to the highest in the country, the same fools are moving here and trying to Californicate Colorado by doing the same stupid things that made them leave CA to save money!!!! I am sick to death of the Left!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • ward

            All accountable Patriotic U.S. Citizens are sick of the dem libtard stench and bo’s 8 years of destruction to the U.S Constitution … ! Now backing Trump for “change” is the most important action to eliminate the socialistic, commie idiots that are duped by bo to follow his deceitful treason & abuse of power … !

          • Antogeny

            Can’t agree more!

          • ward

            The states & cities that are really screwed up with dem socialistic, libtard stench are CA ,LA , SF & Chicago was the 1st with bo starting the destruction which followed him into NY & then the whole U.S. got the shaft with bo’s illegal abuse of E.O.’s that created his wannabe dictator over the U.S.A. with other U.N. dictators !

        • Gary Smith

          They are all racist

        • oldobxguy

          Well said Irish “A total joke.” And a bad one at that. Everyone knows that ever since LBJ’s folks successfully bribed all the black leaders back in the early 60’s, except MLK Jr, to switch parties, criminals and the poor have become the core Democratic voter base and the Dems do everything they can to keep the poor totally dependent on them and tend to accommodate there brothers in crime.

          • ward

            The whole damned dem libtard, commie party has become the #1 enemy against U. S. Constitutional Freedom & Rights of Patriotic Citizens & National Security !

        • avery

          irish, do you know the history of the irish coming to america? the same things you say about blacks were said about the irish. in fact in the editorial cartoons of the time, they were made to look like monkeys in clothing. sound familiar?

          • glorybe2

            Yes and there was a period in which Italians were also very badly treated when they immigrated here. And we don’t even want to go there in considering how Chinese people were treated and misused in the US. There is one difference though. Hatred of most groups waxes and wains, whereas hatred of black people seems to persist across hundreds of years. American Indians also seem to be disrespected long term for reasons I hope I never understand.

          • Kathy W

            Hatred of black people does not make sense. White people are a minority, so people of color are the rule, not the exception. Hatred of the Jews has been consistent for thousands of years. What is crazy about the Holocaust is that the people the Germans were killing mostly looked just like them and were assimilated. So, we don’t hate people because of color or looks, it is because Satan rules this world and has always tried to annihilate the Jews. My Irish ancestors were executed after doing work on the railroad. They are white Europeans.

          • glorybe2

            Hatred normally makes no sense at all. And that is more than true if hatred is about color or religion or birthplace. There are individuals who are evil and that includes Donald Chump and company. He is a vile and low creature. i find that evil is like gravity. We don’t usually pay much attention to gravity but it pulls at us a bit at all times. I think that those among us who are cruel or greedy or irresponsible almost always have brain or medical conditions that cause them to be the way they are. Some simply lack enough gray matter to not be rude and crude. Others are so driven by fear that they self justify almost anything. While others are simply cowards who must hide behind drugs and alcohol but that cowardice is triggered by brains that simply are not functioning correctly. I’ve seen people in hospitals waiting in great fear for an operation. Sometimes it helps just to quietly tell them that their fear will not help them at all. whatever must be can not be avoided and fear is just wasted energy. The fear of death is similar. Death can never be avoided and fearing it doesn’t help one bit and might even hasten one’s end.

          • Kathy W

            You are a highly intelligent and caring person and a deep thinker. You perceive Trump as evil. I see him as a pragmatic man who cares very much that the rest of us haven’t had the opportunities that he has had and who wishes to fix things for us and protect us. You must be disheartened by what you see as people voting selfishly. I don’t have long to live, but I voted for him and his winning gives me peace for when I have to leave my loved ones. I know he protects those of us who have been bullied and used and I believe he is a gift from God. Because you are kind, at least be comforted by the idea that he has given hope to those of us who felt hopeless and who have to others all our lives and allowed ourselves to be used in service to this country because we love others, all others.

          • Mary Brumley

            I, too, have few years left on earth and now have hope my progeny can have a better life than I felt they were going to have.

          • Kathy W

            I feel exactly the same. My whole outlook on life is more positive. God bless you.

          • Mary Brumley

            Thanks! And thank you for posting such hopeful words!

          • Mary Brumley

            The attitude was much the same with the Scots-Irish that came from Ulster. But they just worked at any job available and pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps.

        • glorybe2

          Just how can we actually help urban youth? The types of jobs that would provide a decent life for them are now gone. And almost no one is willing to confront the fact that we are now moving into an era in which employment of anyone will be quite rare. Here is an example. One large farm tractor can replace 1,000 farm hands. And now we have tractors that are robotic or automated that do not need even that one operator. In a factory one good CNC five axis machine can replace quite a few machinists. And that machine can operate 24/7/ 365 and requires no vacations, no holidays, no rest or lunch breaks, no retirement, no workman’s Comp., no unemployment insurance etc.. Now if you owned that factory would you want that machine or a gaggle of employees to do the work? That is why CHUMPS ideas about bringing factories back to the US is a bad joke. If a company relocates and designs its factory it rarely will hire human workers to any meaningful degree.

          • irish1919

            One way is to open up school choice with curriculum based on trades. The idea that somehow college is the ultimate answer for everyone is ridiculous . Since half our college graduates are under employed or unemployed. We are not a country of choice rather Education or healthcare in particular. Give education back to the states and health care back to the private sector . Manufacturing jobs can come back but regardless more jobs is essential . College is not the only answer to well paying jobs. Keep the faith. It can’t get worse than it is today . Can only get better. It’s just imperative that we do not put the likes of OBAMA in charge

          • glorybe2

            I don’t think that you realize that the trades will vanish soon. For example people who drive for a living are about to be jobless. The construction trades will fall to 3D printing and automation. Factories that employ human workers to any real degree will cease to exist. The notion that people can no retrain for a new career is no longer valid. Even teachers are already being eliminated in schools. With a good net connection one teacher can teach eight grade history to every kid in the nation. This stuff is happening right now.

          • glorybe2

            We need to remove the private sector from the medical care system. Private companies are the very reason that medical care is over the edge in prices. The AMA is a union with unrestrained power. The medical community can drain your life savings with great ease. Recently a woman stepped out her front door into a rattlesnake bite. The anti-venom shots cost $80,000. Intensive care for three days brought her bill to over $250K. How many years of savings would it take to pay that hospital bill? We could have given her total insurance for life for less than that little snake bite will cost the public as she has no hope of being able to pay that bill. Failure to provide total health care to every person is costing more than it would take to have a government run system similar to what we see in Canada.

          • Kathy W

            You are so wrong. I have, unfortunately been stuck in the medical system for years and my family members work in the system. Government involvement is driving good professionals out of medicine. Republicans in no way will disallow social programs for those who really need it. I think you are visionary but without faith in God, you will not understand the real potential and your predictions will not add up. You are a wonderful observer but you need to get into the Bible to understand the nature of God and man and God’s predictions for the future.

          • glorybe2

            Actually I had a dying wife and a disabled brother in law in my home and am myself suffering from disabilities. Under the republican presidents I could get about zero help for my situation. I cared for both my wife and brother in law until both passed on. During that same period I had a baby nephew that required two liver transplants to stay alive. His young parents were both in the military and ended up having to leave the military to try and care for their son. The state of Florida denied aid unless the father earned less than six bucks an hour despite the fact that the medical bills quickly exceeded one million dollars. His wife could not work as the baby boy required her full time attention. So the man had to find jobs that were very low paying and actually had to quit one decent employer when the company regulations wanted to give him an automatic fifty cent raise to six bucks an hour. Divorce became the only option so that the child could qualify for the medical care that was required. I have experienced what the right wing does with medial care for families in crises and it was horrible. Other states are much better about such things but a national health care system is needed to stop the nonsense in some states. Nobody’s income is reason enough to allow a child to die.

          • Kathy W

            Thank you for sharing that. I took care of my husband, who was stabbed in the line-of-duty, and was left quadriplegic, completely blind and with the mind of a child. I took care of him in my home for 14 years before he died of his injuries. You understand what it is like to be a good person but having awful things happen to you. Now I am fighting cancer, one that might not be cured. We have the same needs here but in freezing weather. My grandson is in kidney failure due to a genetic condition and his life was ruled by medical bills that he acquired while a child. They drug him into court at the age of 17. Why they would choose a poverty-stricken adolescent to sue, I have no clue. I can understand you wanting to change the system. Did Obamacare help or hurt? I found it hurt because medical care didn’t cover those with no income like my grandson and it didn’t help me as my husband’s police pension of $1300 a month does not leave much after I pay for my insurance, which has gone up to $480 a month. Did you find that it was easier for you under or were you hoping that it might one day? I think we have more hope now. You really are a compassionate person. Nobody is ever refused medical care and I shared the cancer center with homeless people who got the same care that I did. Obamacare seemed to help some people whose income was in just the right bracket and many benefited by being paid under the table. I think Trump will give us something better because the people want it. When we had a Republican governor, Angler, in Michigan, people were allowed to work and get aid, unlike your poor baby nephew’s family. He fixed the welfare system, then we got Granholm, who bankrupted us and nothing worked anymore. Now we have a Republican but he was given an almost impossible job, trying to fix it. My daughter was hired to help make the system work. She tells me that Civil Service was not designed to work. She knows, She learned from the private sector. She is trying to fix it and the first things she managed to do was to fix Child Protective Services. It took a year of paperwork to get an abused child out of a bad home. Now they can do it right away. She overhauls the onerous paper work which is bogging everything down. That is why we see Obamacare as lethal. The paperwork means that my cancer center could not take as many patients as it might. We need a business person to make things work. Thank you so much for telling me your story. I hope my grandson and your nephew will be happy and healthy in the future.

          • glorybe2

            Due to age I receive Medicare and used a Medicare optional plan which has served me pretty well. But from what I see here the doctors are overwhelmed by filling out insurance company forms, not government forms. The one governmental form that they resent is the one that requires them to do all kinds of nonsense things to prescribe pain killers. People in pain are actually suffering due to some people wanting to get high on pain medications. People in the rust belt are suffering as the industries that used to support the rust belt are in permanent decline. That will not turn around. Yet we see parts of California swimming in wealth as they invested in computer and software companies which are prospering beyond imagination. Places like Detroit need to develop amazing software companies and computer makers and automated devices as that is where the money will come from in the near future. Our Navy is already working on ships without human crews as our air force builds fighters without pilots. We will also get away from using ground troops although that is a bit slower than air and sea units. We are going to see changes unlike anything in history and those changes will make one year feel like twenty years.

          • Kathy W

            Yes, it is the paperwork. I understand that insurances follow Medicare guidelines for everything now. Simplifying We is what we believe in and I hope that we are able to do it. It is too bad that drug sellers have made life difficult for us. I would love to see the burden lightened on our health care providers. That is a great idea for Detroit. They are actually turning Detroit into farmland right now. I know that we drone people in the Middle East from somewhere in Nevada. See, I am not a creative thinker like you are or maybe I don’t read enough about technology but you are coming up with ideas. We will be okay. My son works in IT and solves problems nobody else can. My daughter works for the Dept. of Technology in Michigan. They both want life simplified. My son learned computers in the Marines and he had all kinds of ideas and predicted the hacking but he couldn’t get anybody to listen. They simply wouldn’t put money into the computer systems.

          • glorybe2

            I have a Humana Advantage Care plan and it works pretty well but probably requires more paperwork than Medicare. For example at Humana i must go to an approved optometrist who will test my eyes as far as only sight is concerned. He will fill out a report on what glasses are to be made. Now I have to take that report to another approved Humana optometrist who will dilate my eyes as well as test me for glaucoma. Then if both optometrist concur the paperwork will go to Humana for approval before my glasses are made and I can pick them up. Now in addition to being slow and absurdly inefficient Humana does this as they fear that just one optometrist might cheat and claim i needed more expensive gear so that they can bill more. So now i must have two appointments in two different locations and probably wait a month for my glasses. Not only have we a plague of accountants messing about in our health care now we also have some perverted ideas about security mattering more than the well being of patients. By the way Humana Dental plans are a total rip off.

          • Kathy W

            God love you but I am descended from Amish, Mennonite on my father’s side. The Amish side believes like you do. Technology is the devil. We could all become Amish. My father’s family was mainly Mennonite and they embrace technology but my daughter lives surrounded by Amish and you could, also. They are buying up all the land here in Michigan and Indiana. Come live with us.

          • glorybe2

            You misunderstood me. I love technology. I am unusually pro technology. What I am against is a failure to make social policies and legal policies that will protect workers as they are forever made unemployable. This really is happening right now. In France there is an automated delivery vehicle that requires no driver. It doesn’t look like a truck at all. It arrives in crates and two men can completely assemble the unit with common hand tools in less than four hours. No drivers, no dealerships, no sales force are hallmarks of the device. Imagine the millions of professional drivers who will soon lose their trade. The construction industry is also about to be highly limited due to automation being able to easily build a better home to live in. These devices are wonderful but we are not doing right when we fail to make certain to reduce the suffering caused by permanent unemployment that is now taking place.

          • JYuma

            f it is alright with you ,Young Lady. I will thank you for the invitation to move north near you, however I had the misfortune to have to live in Denver for 25 years. That was about 24 winters too long.
            Any time that the temperature drops below 60d. It is Too Cold for me.
            However, if you as a Michigander, wish to enjoy walking around in shirtsleeves and Shorts. Do some down to Southern Arizona, during your Cold spells.

          • Kathy W

            That is funny. Right now, I am shivering from the cold. I lived in Denver a couple of years, my son lives there. To me, that was heaven compared to Michigan. I understand how you feel.

        • glorybe2

          Actually those organizations will also go after black cops when they do wrong. Our cops need a whole lot of retraining. It makes no sense to apply violence in many cases when simply calling in more cops to a scene would cause disruption to cease. When you see plain clothes cops doing a violent take down of a subject without even identifying themselves or asking the subject to comply peacefully you know something is wrong. Your first hint that you are under arrest may be a very sudden and violent body slam into the sidewalk. The cops excuse is that he might have run or he might fight makes as much sense as saying the suspect might have transformed himself into a slice of apple pie. After all, anyone may do almost anything. That is no reason to apply bone breaking or lethal force without warning.

        • gonzales27

          Sharpton is probably in DC talking to Trump to find out if he can still get out of paying his 5 Mil. of back taxes.I was OK with Obama

      • Bama Bill

        You might find “heyjackass.com” an interesting and informative site? Only 5 “White” assailants in almost 800 murders this year, per Chicago police. Police shot 25, 11 killed. So the 611 blacks shot by 100 blacks DO NOT COUNT? And not one reported case of a white shooter killing a black. I’ve got $5 they hit 800 this year. Since a casket is 7′ long, 785 x 7 equals 5,516 ft. Or over a mile of caskets! Maybe they should paint caskets along the freeway coming into Chicago? So visitors can get an idea of how “Safe” they are in Chicago???

        • Bernadette

          It will get worse when Trump stops funding sanctuary cities like Chicago. Blame the dems for the mayor’s stupidity in undermining Trump’s plan to make America safe.

          • Emma

            It is the fault of anti American voters who elected them.

          • Michael Dennewitz

            I’m no crystal ball, but I’m not dumb either. I still say, the HNIC has something else tragic up his sleeve before Mr Trump takes the oath!! Watch!!!

          • Bruce O’Ryan

            He DID say he had a big surprise for the American People just before he leaves office…

          • headonstraight

            Did he now? Do you think his big surprise will be declaring martial law, like all you wingnuts have been predicting for years? Will the skies be darkened with unmarked black helicopters full of FEMA troops coming to scoop up all the wacky wingnuts and ferry them off to those detention camps supposedly hidden in multiple remote locations around the country? And in expectation of all that, have you stocked your cave with plenty of guns, ammo, freeze-dried food and back copies of Soldier of Fortune Magazine? The HORROR! The HORROR!

            You are s-o-o-o laughably ridiculous!

          • Bruce O’Ryan

            I said nothing of the sort, headupass. Stay in your bubble, it suits you.

          • Mary Brumley

            The “HORROR” for you, Head, is that it may well be a female of your own family that is accosted by a horny male who asserts he “feels like a woman today” in a should-be-private woman’s restroom! How much in love with Obamy will you be then? Hey?
            Bet you won’t even answer this comment.

          • headonstraight

            Say wh-a-a-at? Your foray into irrelevancy is nothing short of astonishing! Who said anything about transgender use of restrooms? I suggest that if you want to be part of THIS conversation, you should address the silly-ass conspiracy theories I referred to in what I actually posted and reserve the restroom issue for some place where it is actually being addressed. . You lost your irrelevant bet, Mary; I’m ba-a-a-ack!

          • Mary Brumley

            Glad you are “ba-a-a-ack.” You were making fun of the folk who are taking measures to protect their families IF hard times come upon our nation. That seems to imply that you don’t care enough to be concerned about yours.
            I simply wanted to alert you that “bathroom issues” such as transgendered bathrooms and locker rooms shows we (if we accept that) would be falling as low as a nation can. A nation can’t go lower than not protecting its children.
            A president that cares nothing about exposing little girls to men who “feel like a woman today” in our female bathrooms, has NO bottom to his evil and may well have a big surprise yet!

          • JYuma

            Mary, head has shortened his name. It should be;headonstraightupass.
            He is a Troll.
            Have a Great Evening.

          • Mary Brumley

            LOL! Thanks. I think that he and another person on another comment site same Elizabeth Whitehead, or White something will very soon be deleted. I enjoy the comment sites much better if I eliminate those with whom I am tempted to get into useless conversations.

          • JYuma

            U 2 !

          • headonstraight

            I have no need to be alerted to those “bathroom issues,” since I am very familiar with the controversy to which you refer. Your insertion of “bathroom issues” into this discussion is jut one more device you have employed to avoid responding to what I actually posted about the silly-ass conspiracy theories so beloved by so many wingnuts.

          • Mary Brumley

            I certainly DO believe that!

          • headonstraight

            That kind of drivel is just what we would expect from the Head Moron in Charge!

      • jjmcl431

        hopefully the BLM’s connection to the W.H. ends at noon 20 Jan.2017.

        • GrizzMann

          White House yes. The Democrat party will embrace BLM, Über Alles.

        • Mathew Molk

          Hopefully??? Try DEFIANTLY

      • Kathy W

        It is sad. They are actually killing each other due to tradition and not drugs. That means they are poor gangsters. How do they afford the ammunition? They are killing for no good reason.

        • albaby2

          Black culture is the cause.

          • Kathy W

            Liberals are at the root of some black culture. They approve of drug use and believe in welfare. Hollywood glorifies them and news media tells them they are hopeless and helpless. Look at the people who were Obama’s best friends, rappers who praise cop killers and Beyoncé who tells girls that promiscuous sex is empowerment. Sad, very sad.

        • James Edmond

          No taxation whatsoever on illegal drug sales.

          • Kathy W

            The ex police chief claims that it is killing for the sake of killing and not about money or drugs. It is one revenge killing after another.

        • Mary Brumley

          I do feel badly that blacks are dying!
          On the other hand, when I think about the money they cost our nation, and the rate they breed. . . ?

          This is a conundrum no matter which ethnic groups live off the people.

          • Kathy W

            I lived in a black neighborhood for years. Most are hard workers and good Christian people. I just moved back to my old white neighborhood. The drug problem with poor white people here is devastating. 60% of our babies are born drug addicted. The nurses are quitting because it is so bad. The social workers tell drug addicted women to have a baby so they can get the drugs they need to stay off the hard drugs. They have to prescribe these drugs for the babies, also, and mom uses the baby’s drugs and lets the child suffer. Now this problem is going to cost our society plenty with all these sad, sick children.

          • JYuma

            Truly Sad is it not.

          • Mary Brumley

            Just throwing food stamps and money at “this problem” is causing more problems. We need to find real and effective solutions to help them.
            If D. Trump is indeed as serious as he seems, JOBS will certainly help. But we will still need to intervene with those who have given up and/or badly addicted to drugs.
            I think we will have to use tough measures for some.

          • Kathy W

            Yes. The only way you get free drug treatment here is to have a baby or break the law. It is rewarding bad behavior.

          • Kathy W

            Yes. Michigan under Gov. Engler, motivated people to move off of welfare and take jobs. It was very creative and effective. When people are arrested for drug charges here, they are offered rehab instead of jail but the pushers and the meth cookers are dealt with.

          • Mary Brumley

            Gov. Engler is a wise leader!

      • elmcqueen3

        The black-on-black murder rate in this country is at 93%…8,000 blacks are killed annually by other black Americans…No such statistics to my knowledge have been published on Hispanics…Ahhh Yes I forgot…such information might well be considered as being “racist”…not “politically correct”…OMG what’s this country coming to.

        • Ken says

          Hispanics don’t bother reporting – they just disappear – in the composter, acid barrel, dessert, lake – they are inventive and practical. It works so well in Mexico they just continue to use it.

          • elmcqueen3

            I came across a video once that showed actual footage of how the drug cartels also use natural resources like Buzzard’s to get rid of dead bodies…this video came out of some country in South America not from Mexico…although this method of disposal could also be used by the Mexican drug cartels and maybe already has…these birds left absolutely nothing other than bones so as the carcasses could not be identified by the police or anyone else…the bones were picked clean by these birds which had been dumped in some god forsaken desolate country side …after the Buzzards enjoyed their meal the bones were left to weather away…needless to say the video was sort of a shocker to watch as these birds pecked away at the corpses having themselves a feast of guts and innards, and human flesh…Utterly gruesome to watch.

          • lha

            I lived on the Tx/Mx border for about 20 years,and regularly heard on the radio nand TV that a body floated to the US side of the river. It fell on the County Coroner’s office to ID them,determine cause of death,notify next of kin[depending on if they can ID them],then transfer the Mexican nationals to Authorities. Those not identified were buried at US taxpayer expense. Easy way to get rid of bodies,huh?

          • elmcqueen3

            They should have just left em for the Buzzards…As Barack Obama once said “it won’t cost you one dime”…Okay I agree that was a stretch of his imagination…however a lot of Buzzard’s voted for Obama’s health care plan without even reading it…and now we’re in a pickle with more Buzzard’s lining up than we can shake a stick at.

          • headonstraight

            The word “buzzard” is not a proper name and thus should not be capitalized except at the beginning of a sentence. Also, the plural of buzzard is not “buzzard’s,” but simply “buzzards. You need to work on your English usage, as do most of the semi-literates on this and other forums.

          • elmcqueen3

            Thanks for being so concerned about other people’s spellings…not everyone is a prima donna such as you claim to be…Further more nobody really gives a rat’s a$$ what you think about other folk’s grammar…I would recommend you start seeing a shrink…before you become overly passionate about yourself concerning your thoughts about how other people’s incorrect use of the English language appears to be bothering you…take heed before it’s too late…your sanity is in jeopardy.

          • headonstraight

            Your cavalier attitude is an insult to our Mother Tongue.

            The correct possessive form of folks is folks’.. Furthermore is ONE word, not two. And you would do well to educate yourself on the proper use of the ellipsis.

            And pray tell show me where I have ever claimed to be a prima donna. Do you just make that kind of stuff up?

          • Mary Brumley

            If, ( as a former teacher) I remember my grammar rules correctly, you are incorrect. The word “folk” is plural. So, “folk’s” would be the proper possessive form. Look it up. But first ask yourself if you, by yourself, are a “folk.”
            I would research that, but I am better spending my time learning from posters. I have found more “truth” in comment sections than I have in both the right and left media offerings.
            Find peace, my friend! I wish you well.

          • headonstraight

            YOU should have looked it up. elmcqueen3 obviously was not limiting “folk’s” to a single person. He/she clearly was making a generic assertion, using the term to include any or all folks whose grammar might be called into question.

            http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_possessive_for_folks

          • elmcqueen3

            Actually…no one really gives a s#hit about your proper use of the ellipsis or the other stupid crap which you are so enamored about…you self avowed intelligence doesn’t make you look smart…in fact it makes you look quite the opposite…that being said…you have impressed no one with your self righteous condemnation of how people write or express themselves…”U be dat stupit libral idyot who donut no sheet from shinola”…please correct the misspelling for all to see how intelligent you wish you really were…but aren’t.

          • Mary Brumley

            headonstraight (NOT), you need to find a site dedicated to perfect grammar, and is unconcerned with our nation’s problems. This group wants to solve problems, not impress you!

          • Wayne Langley

            They don’t speak English in these here parts. They speak ‘Merican!

          • JYuma

            As you are so enthused about the proper use of words.
            May be you will be able to instruct me on the proper use of;
            Pinche puta

          • Wayne Langley

            Do you really need instructions to use fucking whore in a sentence?

          • JYuma

            No, not really.
            When it come to you.
            It fits very Well.

            .

          • Wayne Langley

            Lo que sea, tu madre maldita gilipollas. Chupa una polla grande y gorda.

            FYI ~ I’m purdy well versed in Spanish.

          • JYuma

            I see. However that does not take any from you being , a Pinche Puto.

          • JYuma

            Actually , There are several headonstaight or dead Animal eating Birds that are named Buzzard.

          • Ken says

            Acid vats work best and I don’t think that DNA survives the acid either.

          • elmcqueen3

            Koran 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies”…Ouch.

          • Ken says

            Give ISIS credit for doing it by the Book.

        • Mary Brumley

          If Trump isn’t able to make great changes, we are dead meat!
          But I hope we go down fighting!

      • battue_you

        Well, the black male on black male crime statistics in Chicago is one I can live with. While it’s tragic that some innocent lives are lost the vast number of dead in Chicago are animals killing other animals alike.
        Police shootings of these animals constitutes less than .5% of all shootings in Chicago and the black community gets all indignant and self righteous when one occurs regardless of the circumstances which only proves that those complaining are idiots of nature. They must be incapable of logical reasoning to think and act the way they do.
        Democrats have, through their agenda, created a killing field in the largest Cities in America that, in the numbers of murders and other black on black crime, rival the black abortion rate which is yet another Democrat favorite program. To many there hasn’t been a link to such from one to another but it all boils down to the fratricide of the black race. The genius of it is that Democrats have manipulated blacks into killing themselves off by various methods leaving their hands clean in the process.
        Ahhh yes, the party of Jim Crow, slavery, the KKK, Margaret Sanger and Barack Obama just keeps on rolling because blacks and others have been made to believe that the Democrat Party has their backs.
        Yes, they have their backs alright complete with blindfold and knife between the shoulder blades.

        When will the black community see the truth? As long as they continue to fail in their homes and at school they never will.

        Onehunfredfifty years of enslavement to an ideology won’t be undone over night.

      • off2shop

        I agree with shef40 & Chuck 100% on D/L/P. But I have heard that Black Lives Matter is financed by George Soros! Soros needs to be sent to Russia with love since Putin has put out a dead or alive on him several years for doing the exact same thing he is doing to our country and that’s funding Obama & Hillary!

        • Libs R Loons

          Indeed, and Soros spent over $33 Million on the riots in Ferguson alone.

        • disqus_CeZmTpgh9W

          Soros once said the best time i his life was when he went around with his father confiscating Jewish properties for the NAZIS!

          • lha

            What makes this interesting is that Soros is Jewish!!

          • m60avlb

            Kerry was Jewish also, another family name change, and look at which side of the fence he is on.

          • headonstraight

            Ah, yes, George Soros, the favorite of deranged wingnuts who have found in Soros the adult version of that monster under the bed they imagined in their childhoods!

      • brucefandrews

        Berry aka obama is from Chicago and look what he has gotten us.

      • will

        Makes you think though- are those 8000 killed a bad thing for the black community ?

      • avery

        black males are not hired by the taxpayers to protect the public . so what is your point?

        • shref40

          The very rare questionable shooting is down in the noise level, virtually non-existent. The elephant in the room is the massive violence of black on black. Yet, BLM and the Lame Stream Media couldn’t give a shit. How do you spell hypocrisy over there on the Prog side of town, avery?

        • JYuma

          No, but blacks have Murdered more Blacks this year in Chitgago.
          Then Cops have Shot Blacks in the last 5 years in this country in Total.

        • shref40

          The point is that questionable shootings are down in the noise level compared to the violence in certain communities. Virtually non-existent. BLM was a tactic of this election created by the DNC to obtain the black vote, much like Take Over Wall Street was a tactic in 2008 to obtain the poor vote. You never heard about TOWS after the election, and you won’t hear about BLM now.

      • glorybe2

        Many people are unemployable in the modern job market. For ghetto youth slinging dope may be their best possible choice. Frankly there is a certain lack of fear of death that occurs when one confronts the fact that they really have no future at all. And for many urban youth there really is only misery down the road for them. So grab some big bucks and go out in a blaze actually becomes a way of life.

      • irish1919

        Where has OBAMA been on the Chicago murder rate for the last 8 years. He could give a crap about them. All he says is for the gang bangers to take it to the alley, Really?? Just another dem who plays them for their vote and they somehow keep giving the Dems the vote . Pathetic. Definition of insanity . Continue doing the same thing over and over expecting different results . Who do you blame more? The Dems or the Blacks? Really strange bed fellows I would say.

    • bunky doodle

      chicago is safe if you are bullet proof

      • curtis

        Or if you are one of the bigwigs who make the laws-like loser Obumber who can run around with secret service protection!

        • Retired

          After Jan. 20 2017 it will be a smaller group .

        • AKLady2015

          Chilidish name calling.
          So veey right-wing.
          It is those high drop-out nunbers on fisplay.

          • Bill Meyers

            Yes you are showing your high dropout numbers as you sound like one of the dropouts. To liberal to I drstanc the truth.

          • AKLady2015

            “To liberal to I drstanc the truth.”
            Really?

          • Bill Meyers

            BoB

          • Bill Meyers

            You liberal Troll! You all sound exactly the same. Same rhetoric.

          • headonstraight

            Literacy is not a big thing with the wingnut sector, AKLady, as is easily seen by reading their laughable “contributions” on this forum.

          • off2shop

            Heck, it’s AKLady2015 and I thought she would move to another planet with her hero’s. Never response to her for she is a liberal or a democrat so we can read all her post off CNN!

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you. Your input is always welcome, it says so much about you,

          • James Edmond

            The AKho’ spews forth vile discourse.

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you. Your input is always welcome, it says so much about you

      • AKLady2015

        Chcago has not been safe for more than 100 years.

        • Bill Meyers

          Yes and it has been run by Democrats for almost all of those 100 years.

        • mac12sam12

          Maybe they should implement stricter gun laws. snort..snort..

          • AKLady2015

            Pigs snort.
            Donkeys snort.
            Horses snort.

          • disqus_2HJyL9vcD3

            Do polar bears snort??

      • Bernadette

        so true.

    • Ricky

      Lmfao

      • Ricky

        What do you expect from a bunch of liberal commie assholes

        • bobvelon

          Kakafornia is full of the goose steppers…If I could move I would be gone in a heartbeat…Damned liberal malcontents……..

          • Richard Pope

            Bob and et al,
            . . . . When I am traveling I will go hundreds of miles out of may way not to go through CO. The pot capitol of the US.
            GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
            Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
            rich!

          • AKLady2015

            Ha, ha, ha, ha …
            Matanuska Gold is much better, or so I am told.

          • AKLady2015

            Less name calling.

          • Bill Meyers

            What’s the matter can’t stand the truth.

          • AKLady2015

            No, it is called being conservative, i.e., old-fashioned, well-mannered, and mature.
            Name calling is something most give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          • teachersaide

            COULD NOT prove that by the name calling from Obama, Clintons, & LIBERAL Media as demonstrated in last election. OR, is your memory really that bad?

          • AKLady2015

            You are confused. I spoke to the right-wing who cliams to be onservative/
            You know our new leader who say to “just grap them by the pussy”

          • teachersaide

            REALLY? HOW about Every Person who disagreed with ANY policy of Obama, being called a “racist”, “bigot”, “hater”, KKK’er”, etc? HOW about the “basket of deplorables” comment? HOW about the “vast right wing conspiracy” BS from HRC for over 20 YEARS! (I can’t help it that SHE & her husband are totally CORRUPT.) HOW about the “Bimbo Squad”, headed by Hillary, going after ANY woman who dared to complain about Bill’s unwanted attentions? HOW about WJC pleading “No Contest” to Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, & Witness Tampering?

        • AKLady2015

          Less sewer language?

          • mac12sam12

            How about less stupidity, take a hike you hive mentality tool.

          • Bruce O’Ryan

            I blocked her long ago, couldn’t watch the drivel any longer.

    • The Old One

      You most assuredly made a Bronx assumption.

    • JoeP.

      It’s just a shame Chicago isn’t populated with Muslims.

      • Retired

        More Muslims than you would think.

      • AKLady2015

        Chicago has an international population, as do all largw American cities.
        Chicago as a nice town, if you could get away from the stink.
        Sure the stock yards have closed, but the place still stinks in many ways.

        • Bill Meyers

          Chicago had never been a nice town. Ever heard of All Capone, Mayor Daily,etc. They should have let it burn,

          • AKLady2015

            Actually, it depends on how rich you are and what suburb yoi live in.

          • Clay Fitzgerald

            In 1968 the democrat convention was held in Chicago and Daley’s cops beat up anti-Vietnam war protestors causing widespread rioting in the streets. And the corruption continues nearly 50 years later, Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the corrupt dem politicos that run that city and the state of Illinois.

        • Janet Julien

          Yeah the government, the politicians, the racism, the weather, sometimes the attitudes, and the garbage and I’m not just talking about the stuff collected and put into the dumpsters. Yeah there still is a whole lot to stink up the Windy City and many other cities are as bad but still we have a pretty darned good nation to live in overall

        • steppenfetchit

          Damn you moron would you ask your baby-daddy how to use spellcheck?

          • AKLady2015

            Childish insutts.
            I am so not impressed.
            Maybe you should look up Dyslexia.

      • George E. LeFebvre

        You can bet your boopie that the muslims are all around the city. Hell, the mayor is muslim.

        • headonstraight

          Idiot! The mayor of Chicago is JEWISH. Facts don’t matter to you, do they?

    • AKLady2015

      Chicago has been a crime capital for more than 100 years.
      Nothing new.
      Why do you find it so shocking?

    • Bernadette

      Good description of most dems.

    • Laddyboy

      Chuck: Butttttt!
      OH!!! It F E E L S
      SOOOooo gooooood to have more CONTROL over the American People.
      WHO CARES WHAT THE PEONS WANT!!!!! (snark).

    • SouthernPatriot

      You’re so right. Demented Democrats. Knee jerk reaction, losing existing jobs and losing upcoming jobs with the new contract and additional contracts to come. Not losing service jobs, but losing manufacturing jobs. Stupid short-sighted or blind Democrats.

      Smart Magpul. Move just a few miles down the road to Laramie County and Cheyenne. Though it is not in the story, I understand that many of the machinists and other specialty employees are moving to Cheyenne to work and also to train the new employees which are coming on to help fulfill the new contracts. That is capitalism and free enterprise at work.

    • brucefandrews

      Colorado has a communist Governor, My Senator Bennett is a communist, The Mayor of Denver is a communist. The Denver police chief is a democrat/liberal/socialist (socialism is the forerunner to communism). The list goes on and on. They are told about in the bible when GOD teaches us that IF we do not do things His way our leaders will have the minds of children. This is so obvious it scares me that these liberal idiots do not see this. OH WAIT IS SEE IT, THEY DO NOT READ OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THE BIBLE THEY SAY THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST! Boy are they surprised when their flesh dies and they are standing in front of a VERY ANGRY YHVH!

    • jim_wright

      It’s safe for people supplied with armed security, but not so much for the rest of us. That’s why the second amendment document the right for ALL of us to keep a and bear arms.

    • irish1919

      Same guy who said never let a good crisis go to waste.

    • Mary Brumley

      You are correct!!!

      And my patience is wearing VERY thin with them.

    • avery

      syria is safer?

    • glorybe2

      You assume that being a sanctuary city has anything at all to do with the violence in Chicago. That is magical thinking at its worst.

    • glorybe2

      First we have no reason to think that undocumented workers did any or many of the shootings in Chicago. So your argument is false. And yes Chicago is a mess. But we have seen the same issues in many other, crowded urban areas. What occurs over time is this. Business thrives in an area and goes out of its way to attract a much larger population so that they can have a cheaper labor supply. Then business falls off, things change, and business moves elsewhere. That leaves behind vast unemployment and usually a lot of pollution and ruined infrastructure. Then a very poor and angry public starts acting out and breaking every law in the book. The very structure of corporations disallows them from repairing the harm that they have done . The stock holders would go bonkers if the firm spent one billion dollars repairing the harm that has been done. Brooklyn, the Bronx, Los Angeles, Flint, and Detroit are shining examples of the horrors industry can cause. Due to lack of education and racism we have people that want to place the blame upon the lower elements of society when in fact the disease starts at the investor class of the public and the troubles left behind should fall upon that investor class and not the down trodden people left in the wake of failed businesses.

    • ward

      The same asinine sanctuary crap is in SF,CA with gov libtard brown duping the dem libtards all over CA & LA is a shit hole of illegals & a stench of crime that surpasses hitler’s Nazis of WW 2 ! bo’s endoctrination of libtard dupes is a disease that has to be squelched ASAP to save the U.S.

      • JYuma

        Have you ever thought that the Persons that Deadfish Emanuel is giving Sanctuary to are Criminals? Murders, Rapists, Thieves?
        While Blacks are Murdering Innocent Blacks DAILY in Chicago!
        Women, Children and OLD folks.

  • Tome

    Oregon is going down the same trail. Outlawing guns but while you can’t shoot you can stay high on pot! If you smoked pot maybe that is good. We are a Demonrat state so everthing is going to hell. Dr. No got relieved of his lifetime governor ship and they replaced him with a Ms. Brown. She is between Californias Brown and the very infamous Hussein Obama. First word out of her mouth. When Portland, Salem, Eugene over runs the rest of the state and voted her in was I am. “Going to take your guns”. While she was still imatation Governor she brought Bill 97 on us. The PER’S is Billions in the hole. She wants her retirement so brought up a bill big enough to break the state for (Schools) with out a penny aimed at schools! At least enough Liberals did not go for that it was voted down.Thank goodness.

  • American Eagle

    Hahahashashahahahah….It just doesn`t get any better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rivahmitch

    In fact, it only made Democommies, criminals and idiots “feel” safer. Rational individuals know better.

    • AKLady2015

      The majority of prisons are in red states.

      • rivahmitch

        So? That just means that we believe in punishing criminals.

        • AKLady2015

          It also means you have a lot of criminals to punish.

  • justryn2getitright

    How do you feel safe knowing the bad guys will still have the guns?
    And what state will the bad guys head to? No gun states where they have the advantage! Duh!

    And how smart are you when, to ignore stats? Compare cities that have banned guns, like Chicago, they have higher rates of crime, murders – with guns!
    Colorado won’t be safer, until you get rid of the sissy libs running your state!

    But meanwhile Texas will take more & more companies, jobs, revenue, and sleep great at nite!

  • John Doe

    The state of Colorado is being run by a bunch of Douche Bags. Put a shit boat of laws on the books for honest gun owners, then turn around and legalize pot!!!…. Stupid Assholes….People, you watch Colorado in 10yrs, it will be full of Dope smoking, potatoe chip eating, lazy, no job holding, punks….Good job Governor, you’re doing great!!!!!…Dick Wad!!!!

    • deerflyguy

      Ever notice that wherever ridiculous laws are passed that support liberal causes, business leaves the state en mass, state governments become insolvent, infrastructure deteriorates, and people become worthless societal leeches? Government becomes the largest employer, and taxes become unbearable for those who still have jobs. Don’t you just love liberalism?

      • Justin Seine

        Liberalism? Sure – it is the equal sharing of misery!

        • deerflyguy

          Not equal at all, Justin. Very lopsided with emphasis on “do nothings” getting most of the benefits ( to garner their good will and votes), and tax paying workers getting the bills, and not much else!

          • AKLady2015

            Jealous much?

          • deerflyguy

            Not a bit! I’m just tired of being used to fund this nonsense!

          • Michael Dennewitz

            You’re entertaining the country’s biggest TROLL! 😉😂😃

          • deerflyguy

            It took me a little while to figure that out Mike, but I’ve come to the same conclusion!
            Either that, or she’s a near complete moron! Maybe both?

        • AKLady2015

          Yet, the liberal parts of Navada makes people very rich ..

          • Bill Meyers

            Yes all the while stealing from the stupid.

          • AKLady2015

            “Stealing”?
            Sorry, the entertainment is limited to adults.
            If they are stupid, it is their own fault.

      • Ed Anderson

        The last time I was in Colorado was 1972. It was a pretty nice place then. Pity. Stupid is as stupid does.

      • ProudDeplorable

        Sort of like the U.S. during the last 8 years!!!!

        • AKLady2015

          Sort of like the red states in the last 100 years.
          They have the highest poverry rates,
          Thy have the highest school drop out rates.
          Th Federal Government is their major industry.

          • Bernadette

            where’s your proof?

          • AKLady2015

            Tne U.S. Cemsus data is published on the Internet.
            There is a huge amount of data at your finger tipss.
            Use it to educate yourself.

          • Jmanjo

            You sure are not educated! You lie about every topic you comment on. Ridicule when there is no basis. Have no source of real information. Open up about the false liberal truths that the liberals have flooded you with and generally shoot your mouth off with no idea of how dumb you are! Now, that is no name calling and the source of my information is you! And there is no proof you are a lady or even know what an AK is!

          • Mathew Molk

            And tat is why I blocked “her” months ago.

            You did forget to mention the way “she’ lies about her employment and military experiences, though.

          • Clay Fitzgerald

            There is nothing credible about her. So I did the very same thing, but I get a kick out of seeing the comments responding to her just under “This user is blocked.”

          • Bruce O’Ryan

            lol, Same here…

          • AKLady2015

            AK is the U.S. Post Office code for Alaska.
            The U.S. Census is a “source of real information.”
            .
            Now, do you have any more brilliant insight to offer?

          • Jmanjo

            The US Census is as porous as the POTUS wants it to be ! Cannot give you too much information. I’m not sure you can handle true facts!

          • AKLady2015

            Your paranoia has become clinical. I suggest you obtain the services of a mental healt professional. Please do so before you become a dangwr to yourself and others.

          • Jmanjo

            You are the one with the problem! Get rid of your PC and hide in the dumpster where you can not hurt anyone!

          • Bill Meyers

            Whoa are you ever confused. You need to stop watching CNN and MSNBC.

          • AKLady2015

            Not interested in entertainment news.
            I rarely turn on the “boob tube”.

          • mac12sam12

            There red states with their inner-cities all run by democrats. That’s who has the highest poverty rates. CA has 33% of all the people in the US living under the poverty level.

          • AKLady2015

            Alabama, Arkansan, Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, New Mexico, Navada …

      • AKLady2015

        Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ………..

    • bunky doodle

      suburbs of california: oregon , washington, colorado, new mexico

    • Ed Anderson

      Unfortunately, all their electoral votes will continue to go to whichever Demlib is nominated for the foreseeable future.

      • Mathew Molk

        as the population drops in the commie states the number of electrical votes will diminish and the number in the American states will increase.

        The more businesses they drive out the less power they will have.

        • Ed Anderson

          Here’s something I remember seeing posted on the internet a while back: If liberals want to have abortions, let them do so. If they choose to remain childless, let them do so. If they want to marry persons of the same gender, let them do so. If they want to kill themselves with drugs, let them do so. Then, in a generation or
          two, there will be no liberals.

    • AKLady2015

      Why do you think foul language is appropriate?

      • Bill Meyers

        Why do you think you have the right to dictate to people? Oh wait I know, it’s brcsusd you are an elitist liberal snob, who received a liberal arts degree in basket weaving, and you honk that makes you smarter than everyone else,

    • Bernadette

      It’s ashame, but you are right.

  • Jerubbesheth xx

    Good for Magpul. The brain dead politicians just cost Colorado jobs, as if the gun grabbers really care. Next election cycle they need to vote these morons out of office.

  • Lew Williams

    ha ha ha

  • Bill Wilson

    SO WHY ARE THE LIBTARDS BASHING THE TRUMPS? AFTER ALL, THEY ARE LIBERALS! THE HIPPOS ARE STILL OUT IN FORCE!

    • Roger

      Why are they called LIBERAL; THEY ARE NOT:

      Liberals =
      associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives.

      Progessives=
      believing in political change and especially drastic social change by governmental action

      • Norman

        They are NOT liberals. They ARE RADICALS.

        • Clay Fitzgerald

          … RADICAL WHACK-A-DOODLES!

  • bunky doodle

    colorado used to be so smart, then californians moved in. same thing happened to oregon. only nevada and arizona have prospered and now wyoming

  • Rick D.

    As Michael Savage likes to say: “Liberalism is a mental disorder”. I think it’s more than a coincidence that the last 4 letters of a bed-wetting liberals party are “R-A-T-S”, while those of the Party that truly offers hope and change are “I-C-A-N”?

  • Alan404

    When did Magpul become an ammunition maker?

    • Roger

      “Long, long time ago”

      • Alan404

        I missed that somehow.

        • Norman

          Me too. I knew Magpul made accessories but never knew they made ammunition.

  • Pete-fus

    “Feel Good, Do No Good” anti gun laws by socialist democrats who believe in the agenda of the liberal left. If I was MagPul, I would take out several billboards near the Colorado capital posting this info for all voters and politicians to see every dang day, just to remind them of what the anti-gun idiots cost the state! Maybe even a running digital of the state tax income going to Wyoming instead of Colorado! Then something like “this is the money you tax payers have to cough up because of your anti-gun politicians”! “Your not really any safer, but you have been better fleeced”!

    • 1775concord

      Problem is,, Colorado is a red state with two big blue blemishes…Denver and Boulder. People (mainly leftists…70/30 in Denver…couldn’t figure out the connection.
      The law was passed with a Senate vote of 18-17…all
      Democrats..and the head of the Senate was recalled in an election shortly thereafter by angry constituents.
      The people who have the guns to rob and shoot people in Denver don’t pay any attention to the law, anyway.

  • carlosandrews

    https://youtu.be/LejYKxCwQZo Watch this Youtube and learn the truth about Obama and his false Birth Certificate.

  • Jimmy Dean(sausage)

    Death and dismemberment is the true goal of the elitist , leftist , Saul Alinskyists , ultimate desired outcome . I can see Soreass smiling profusely from here

  • unshocked

    Abortions kill more humans than bullets.

  • Alan404

    Do the wealthy liberal types that push such foolishness have to concern themselves with loss of employment or work opportunities, not likely. In any case, they just know best, right?

  • Col. Grampaw

    They’ll make up for the lost revenue with the Sales Tax collections on marijuana. Oops, since it’s now legal, everyone is simply growing their own for personal use. To quote Forrest Gump, “Stupid is as stupid does!”

  • Leo

    I kind of feel bad for the 100 people that lost their jobs because of this not good for nothing law, but am happy that Magpul Industry made a dire example of Colorado’s insignificant gun laws to the rest of the country.

  • jandjnesbitt@aol.com

    Just proves…being a stupid ignorant Libtard… costs you BIG TIME in many many ways. I would be ashamed to admit I was a Democrat… OMG…What a large group of DimWits. How have they even survived this long ???…God Bless America and God Bless Donald J.Trump !!!

  • Carl Looney

    The bad guys will always have lots of guns and bullets. Only the honest law0-abiding citizens will be turned into victims without guns. The 2nd Amendment is being whittled away. By “bear arms” it means whatever it takes to shoot – guns, bullets, rockets, bazookas, etc. We need to Supreme Court case to get this established again.

  • DaveyJ

    Colorado was wrong! Jobs are the lifeblood of our young people! Here in NYS we have a governor hellbent on losing all of our jobs!

  • Paul Maloney

    And think of all the jobs Colorado could create, and all the tax revenue they could gain, if they would just legalize prostitution. Stupid legislators!

  • Orion

    Who didn’t see this coming/happening?

  • jug

    Idiotic law is the best description I have heard yet!

    Colorado is like Hillary, brought it all on herself!

    The biggest reason that I left CO, over 20 years ago, is that it had become, take your pick, either CA East or CT West. More likely a combination of both!

  • RuFus92

    As the saying goes there is no cure for stupid, and Democrats and Liberals have almost completely cornered the market on that product.

    • Retired

      They continually stick it to the working people and the public.

  • freethinker4

    Colorado is lost the sheeple their don’t have a mind of there own anymore. But I do see a potential problem they moved there headquarters to Texas and manufacturing to Wyoming? Texas will become a liberal state if they keep soliciting Californian businesses and low wage illegal immigrants mark my words

  • TPS12

    Politicians making poor decisions always have unintended consequences, nice move Colorado. Way to go Cheyenne, Wyoming you did your State proud.

  • Richard Schnedorf

    How dumb is stupid. That says it all for the Democrats.

  • JoeP.

    Good for Colorado Dumbocrats and too bad for the Colorado stooges who voted them into office! That’s what you Coloradoans get for being stupid liberals! Keep looking to California and New York for more brilliant ideas.

    • Retired

      Every place Democrats had been in control, have lost jobs due to the stupid laws that get passed.

  • dog lover

    The dems are killing us!!!

  • Sean Rickmin

    Hey COLORADO,all is not lost,you still have scary harry reid,or is it dirty harry,it makes no differance.Live with it,and good luck with the rest of the liberals.

    • Clay Fitzgerald

      Uh… Harry Reid, whether he’s scary or dirty, is/was a senator from Nevada, not Colorado.

  • jimmy9522

    Any kind of attempt to infringe our Constitutional rights to bear arms is illegal and all these liberal idiots should be brought up on charges, as soon as the swamp is drained.

  • cutterguy

    shoot, Colorado doesn’t need jobs; we have mary-jane. (sarcasm). Feel like I have to point that out in case a lib/dem reads it.

    • ABO

      You must be looking to make the idiots’ heads explode cuttrguy. Good work!

      • cutterguy

        I think theirs will implode like any vacuum.

        • ABO

          Got a point there cutterguy, hadn’t thought of it that way but of course you’re right!

  • The Dutchman

    I live in this liberal POS thanks to califreakias moon beam browns butt buddy hickenpooper. After the way the state voted this year his ass may be short lived along with his boy toy bennet.

  • Colorado is not even a close second to California when it comes to dumb ass liberal progressive/communist politicians.

  • Dennis B Anderson

    Oh like farrrr out mannnn?(&%? Who needs a gun anyhow when you gots bud – bud – big – big buds. Huh what? Whos ready for tacosssss!

  • MJB

    Colorado had rather smoke dope.

  • francypie

    Maybe Colorado should change their politicians!

    • Clay Fitzgerald

      Yeah, politicians are like diapers… they need to be changed frequently and for the same reason.

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      Get a job, get a life, GET LOST!!

  • FloridaJim

    The penalty of being a democratic ideologue.Hello, Wyoming.

  • Justin Seine

    I believe that Colorado just went “One Toke Over the Line” and will now endure the unpleasantness of unintended consequences. Maybe another toke or two will ease the pain.

  • robert sanders

    HOORAY FOR THE 2ND ADMENDMENT

  • Clark

    What is wrong with people? The magazine is for those that like to just play with in practicing our shooting. Trying to back door gun control policies is a dirty trick anyway. Why not concentrate on issues in the government that just make life better for all of us. We are glad to get the business here in Texas. Gun control of any type will never stop the criminals. Concentrate on cleaning up politics and placing those in office that just love our country and recognizing this is God’s Country.

  • Bill Meyers

    It’s only a temporary solution. Liberals seem incapable of free thought. They get all jacked up and demand stricter laws, businesses move. Shortly hereafter liberals move to follow the jobs. Then the cycle begins again. Dontvthesr dumbasses understand what they are doing to themselves, Hakf of the population in Denver are California transplants. Those who were unhappy with the rules in California, so they move, still stuck in the grasp of gbe mental disiease known as liberalism/progressivism and start asking for strict gun control laws, more EPA involvement etc. it’s s no win for them.

  • Rusty.Not

    Colorado should be prout of its stance. What’s a few hundred jobs, and taxes, etc., when they can pat themselves on the back for being PC. They can volunteer to house the UN troops who arrive soon to confiscate our guns, to re-coup their losses.

  • Dane

    Its always stupid to bite the hand that feeds you but liberals never realize that until its done and that’s why we have suffered these last 8 years. I’m not sure Trump can fix it 4 years but I hope he tries like hell to do it.

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  • Jim

    Stupid is is stupid does !!!

  • tCotUS

    Magpul makes good products. We have a an Ammo plant in my state who employees thousands both directly & indirectly.. I understand many in the gun industry are leaving California, NY, CONN, I say good for them !!
    Let their taxpayers pick up the slack. …Pull ALL Federal funding from these Liberal Anti-Constitution Nanny States.. Their taxpayers will be screwed, & the rest of them will starve.

  • disqus_rEWjgfyzIp

    Since I live in CO I have to look at the morons that we keep importing from CA so its no wonder why a state that is full of Firearm history is being destroyed. It isnt bad enough that CA had to screw up their state, now they are trying to screw up CO as well. As to the stupid magazine law that is un enforceable in this state since that law went into effect it has done nothing but been a speed bump for firearms.They have had one instance where a magazine arrest was made hit the news for 10 seconds and vanished in to the air faster then hillarys campaign money. Does CO still have a fire arm problem well yes as cant get the firearms that you would like with out having to order some CA complaint version. You have people selling AR 30 round magazines that have been broken down and sold as “Parts Kits” which is legal still. So to the CO government grab each ear, jump up and go pop as you pull your head out of your a*s as you need to stop losing jobs in our state.

  • APB

    Stupid is as Stupid does.
    Hey dim wit Senator, where were you on this bill that became law.
    How did you communicate to the state what this bill and law would eventually do.
    Losing 100 jobs, unemployed 100 folks, loss tax revenue.
    Yep you dimwits and governor need to be taken out back and smacked for your utter stupidity.
    Hey next time look at all sides of the problem before you write such stupid laws.

  • SILENTHAMMER

    Back in the 70’s and 80’s, Colorado became the “Woodstock of the West”, with hippies, tokers and “free-thinkers” migrating in droves to get some of that “Rocky Mountain High”! Well now, those losers who were kicked out of their parents’ basements because the “sweetamoke” was getting a bit too heavy in their Philadelphia row house are RUNNING THE STATE! They were like kudsu secretly invading the pasture lands of the South. They were good for image, but nothing else. Eventually, they came to be “older” and had wormed their way into government. But they had no values, no morals and no love of homeland. They were godless in many instances. And the residents of Colorado welcomed them, and are being betrayed by them. It has “come-round” so to speak. Colorado has some soul searching to do. The Air Force Academy, University of Colorado and NORAD (?) are not enough to sustain the state. And it might not snow enough some years to get lots of Aspen and Vail “Sundances” to leave Hollywood in January. So, good luck Colorado. Your future is in your hands.

  • jim scofield

    Colorado is following suit with the Morons in Sacramento California
    with trying to kill the sale of legal items. This is what happens when
    You elect the Hippy generation.

  • Robert

    Keep hurting these SOBs in their wallet. Maybe the people of CO will realize it is time to throw out the trash dems!

  • tax man

    Funny, they make drugs legal but won’t honor the second amendment. Guess all the druggies will move there and the law abiding citizens will depart.

    • tCotUS

      Magpul makes good products. We have a an Ammo plant in my state who employees thousands both directly & indirectly.. I understand many in the gun industry are leaving California, NY, CONN, I say good for them !!
      Let their taxpayers pick up the slack. …Pull ALL Federal funding from these Liberal Anti-Constitution Nanny States.. Their taxpayers will be screwed, more industry will leave.

  • Sandy devine

    This governor and all left democrats who unfortunately are majority leading but hopefullly next election we can get them out!!!! One step at a time, I’m upset they come here from Ca and now take possession of our state and desttoy it like they did in Ca. This I resent! If they keep up doing their power control laws then I’m Out of here!!! No more, I’ve taxi g us with state taxes and taking control of our arms here in a state that’s as hunting state to
    Boot. Control control, that’s all they want.but let’s not forget—— spending our money On nonsense!!!! And then having this state as a sanctuary
    City!!! Dangers around us and all encouraged by the democrats running our state!!!!

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    News Flash!!!Liberals screw up another state! Old news, different state.

  • Tiger

    These people across America are going to have to get used to their new diet of Reality. That they lost the election. That their voices are like farts in a whirlwind, unheard.

    It is over and America is going to be on track again don’t like it? Leave please.

  • Kathy W

    Hope it is a cold winter so all the Californians go back to California, take their marijuana with them and leave behind the guns. Colorado has been dumbed down by Californians migrating there to retire. Need to turn that state red.

  • brokebill

    Stupid political leaders and their unintended consequences. One thing they may not take into account is the people that have considered moving to their state and hear this ignorance and decide to move elsewhere. A state’s policies and reputation is becoming a major issue for citizens.

  • AL

    Just to be a demoKKKrat your IQ must be as low as your body temp. So I will PRAY THAT THE NEXT KLAN RALLY THE BURNING CROSS FALLS ON THEM. Then they can join the party leader SATAN

  • Len Tippett

    I am reminded of the phrase, “every day any local, county, state, or federal committee or board is not in session, God is surely blessing America”.

  • Valor

    This is what happens when people flee bastions of Marxism like California, move to states like Colorado and the Cali fornicate that state.

  • doc

    Stupid is,as stupid does!!More LIB horse shit,I’m sure they know what that is !!OB out lawed lead,Now will pay more for batteries,and bullets,CO,Don’t know what their problem is .Seem to have gone the lib route ,fore sure!!

  • Cadfael

    The Democratic Party and the unions in this country won’t rest until the last American manufacturing worker is unemployed and on welfare; especially in the gun industry. Those who vote for them again and again, like a trained Pavlovian dog, need to ask themselves which party has ruined our manufacturing industry that was once the envy of the world!

  • James Bryson

    Supporting the U.S. Constitution / Second Amendment is good government.

    Seeking to violate the Second amendment without a constitutionally sound basis, is not.

  • Mark Tercsak

    How did Ben Franklin say it ? about Safety to sacrifice “Liberty ” for a little “Safety” you deserve{ Neither}.
    Let that be a lesson to you.

    After passage of the United States Constitution, The Framer’s created law that was signed in to Law by George Washington, President Of The United States, this law has been amended and up-dated over the centuries, but vast sections of this original Law are still in effect, it was known as the {Militia-Act} and now as the National Guard & Militia Act.

    All able bodied males ages 18 to 52 ? years of age are members of the Armed Forces of The United States Of America.

    That’s right if you are in that age group you are not a civilian under Federal Law.

    Thus all these Anti Gun Cities and States are in violation on the National Guard & Militia Act and the Second Amendment.

    • Clay Fitzgerald

      You’re right on most of the points you make, however the law you’re referring to spells it out, members of the armed forces are NOT “All able bodied males 18-52,” that applies to the militia.
      This is the law:
      US Code TITLE 10 – ARMED FORCES
      Subtitle A – General Military Law
      PART I – ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
      CHAPTER 13 – THE MILITIA
      § 311. Militia:
      composition and classes
      (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,
      except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
      (b) The classes of the militia are –
      (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
      (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
      § 312. Militia duty:
      exemptions
      (a) The following persons are exempt from militia duty:
      (1) The Vice President
      (2) The judicial and executive officers of the United States, the several States and Territories, and Puerto Rico.
      (3) Members of the armed forces, except members who are not on active duty.
      (4) Customhouse clerks.
      (5) Persons employed by the United States in the transmission of mail.
      (6) Workmen employed in armories, arsenals, and naval shipyards of the United States.
      (7) Pilots on navigable waters.
      (8) Mariners in the sea service of a citizen of, or a merchant in, the United States.
      (b) A person who claims exemption because of religious belief is exempt from militia duty in a
      combatant capacity, if the conscientious holding of that belief is established under such regulations as the President may prescribe. However, such a person is not exempt from
      militia duty that the President determines to be noncombatant.
      THIS TITLE WAS ENACTED BY ACT AUG. 10, 1956, CH. 1041, SEC. 1, 70A STAT. 1
      As you can see, the law distinctly separates the armed forces from the militia and the unorganized militia from the organized militia, National Guard.

      • Mark Tercsak

        Yes you are right .
        As I stated these acts have been Amended and up-dated and replaced a number of times over 224 years or there about.

        For Example; Militia Act of 1792
        Requirements were that every free-able~ bodied, white male citizen of the respective states,
        resident therein, who shall be eighteen years of age and under forty-five years (except as herin
        after excepted) shall be tively be enrolled in the militia, by the captain or commanding officer.

        under this act there was what they termed three month service terms.

        ( Forgot Militia Act of 1795 this act amended and replaced section 10 of the Militia Act of 1792).

        I know about this ,because; of my Great, Great, Grand~Father John Howard, mom’s side he enrolled in the 1st Virginia United States Infantry Regiment, raised in and around Wetzel County West Virginia.

        At end of three month service, he re-upped as did most of those guys.

        The Regiment would later be renamed 1st West Virginia United States Infantry.

        In 1862 The Militia Act of 1862, was a major Amending of the Militia Act of 1792/1795.
        The Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States Of America in Congress,
        Authorized the President of the United States to accept into service African-Americans free or slave, it also granted those slaves that joined there freedom.

        There duties were to be camp labor, making entrenchments or serving in the Army and Navy Service.

        The Militia Act of 1903 also known as the Dick-Act or the first National Guard Act, created the National Guard after the experiences of the Spanish~American War.

        Be it enacted by the Senate and the House Of Representatives Of The United States Of America in Congress Assembled, that the Militia shall consist of every able~bodied male citizen of the respective states, territories and the district of Columbia, and every able-bodied male of foreign birth who has declared his intention to become a citizen, who is more than eighteen years of age and less than 45 years of age, and shall be divided into two classes- The Organized Militia known as the National Guard Of The State, Territory, or te District Of Columbia or by the designations as may be given them by the Laws of the Respective States or Territories and the remainder are to be known as the reserve militia.
        note there are 26 sections to the 1903 act.
        The 1903 act had a 9 month service enlistment.

        In 1908 the Dick Act was amended, the 9 month service enlistment was dropped.
        the Act created a Division of Militia Affairs with in the Army, which over saw a number of duties relating to the National Guard and Militia, such as training.

        1916 The National Defense Act replaced or at least large portions of previous acts.
        the act doubled number of drill periods from 24 to 48.
        increased summer camp from 5 days to 15 days.

        • Clay Fitzgerald

          Granted that all you posted is true… in that they apply to the militia, organized or unorganized. However, the main point is that being a member of the militia is not tantamount to being in the armed forces and under authority of the UCMJ or any other military authority. In my own case, I know that upon reaching my 18th birthday I was subject to the military draft and became a member of the unorganized militia; on my enlistment in the U.S. Army I was no longer in the militia because I was active military; at the time of separation from active duty I was placed in inactive reserve status, but still subject to recall, until discharged after fulfilling 6 years of military commitment, then resumed my status as a member of the unorganized militia.
          This all shows that being a member of the militia, until actively participating with the armed forces, does not mean that all able bodied males are members of the Armed Forces subject to military law. By definition militias are made of citizens, not professional soldiers, and are called up in times of emergency.

  • pineapple

    SOLUTION TO GUN CONTROL

    In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States .

    In 1881, a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States – who later died from the wound.

    In 1963, a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

    In 1975, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

    In 1983, a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

    In 1984, James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    In 1986, Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990, James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

    In 1991, George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.

    In 1995, James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    In 1999, Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In
    2001, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a
    failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

    In 2003, Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010, a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    In 2013, a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown ,CT.

    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

    Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.

    SOLUTION:

    It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

    We don’t need gun control, we need Democrat control.

    Guns don’t kill people, Democrats do!

  • ardvietvet

    Stupid is as stupid does …Forrest Gump

  • Mathew Molk

    And California is next.

    We have LOTS of water and cheaper power in the Great Lakes area as well as a bunch of highly skilled people who are out of work who could care less about a little snow in the winter. Electricity, Natural Gas and even gasoline is cheaper here too.

    Now add to that WAY cheaper housing and MUCH lower taxes and more business friendly state EPA and OSHA regs and why in the hell would any business want to stay in a state that only caters to illegal aliens and BLM radicals and taxes the crap out of whatever profits you eek out?

    You aint seen nothing yet either when President Trump cuts back on the crushing Federal Business restrictions and they are lifted here and California decides to replace them with even more restrictive state laws. (And you know that is what they are going to do too)

    California will make the devastation caused by the collapse of industry in Detroit look like a gold rush.

    The worm has turned and it’s not going to roll right over California and crush all the Marxists out there.

  • EMIRCITNA

    WHEN are people going to learn that you NEVER vote a Democrat into ANY political office, local, state or federal!!!! ~ It takes a ‘special’ person to be a Democrat….and they ALL need to be in communist countries, NOT the U.S.A.!!!
    NOTE: Beware of the RINO who is nothing more than a ‘closet-Democrat’ claiming to be a conservative Republican but whose actions and inactions expose their true character; John McCain is a perfect example!!!

    • Emma

      Because they are ANTI AMERICAN.
      That is what democrats are.
      Marxist &anti American.
      The voters put them in.
      That is who will have to remove them.

      • Valor

        And most voters are too dumb to do that. That’s why these cretins are still in office for decades.

  • peter

    Connecticut did the same and caused gun related companies to relocate. It didn’t help the victims because people should realize that the democratic party is the party of victims. Just ask Rohm in Chicago where the murder rate rose from 519 in 2015 to 719 this past year. They did nothing for the victims but they sure do love the criminals.

  • Ron Everett

    Reap what you sow Colorado. Brain-dead liberal turds!

  • curmudgeon VN Veteran

    The only thing that is stupider than a liberal politician, a democrat politician or a liberal democRAT politician is more than one in the same room. God, but these people abuse the privilege of being stupid!

    • carl bebar sr.

      A little tape turns a 15 round mag into a 30 roundmag, there is also a mag clip that does the same thing

  • Frederic Charles Hilnbrand

    You can ALWAYS do away with the law. But I do not hear that from anyones mouth. I find it hard to believe this one bad person got the majority to think that this STUPID law would keep them safer. We all know that he would have just carried more mags. We have seen that done in my area and heard about it in the news. So has anyone gotten the law removed yet??

    • Valor

      Here is the problem you are missing. Once a law is passed, it becomes almost impossible to do away with that law. The Demorats still control the CO legislature, for them to even consider doing away with any laws they have passed would be an admission of making a mistake. Politicians of either party would rather walk barefoot on hot coals than admit they made a mistake. Just like the idiots that continue to vote these same politicians won’t admit they made a mistake either.

      • Frederic Charles Hilnbrand

        Sounds like stupid is as stupid does. Maybe one day they might go REP. You would have thought that would have learned by now.
        HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Hope that at least gave you a smile 🙂

        • Valor

          Yep! And you can’t fix stupid. Once a city, state, or the nation goes Demorat and becomes entrenched that way, it never changes. CO will continue to go the way of CA, OR, WA, NY, MA, Etc. Happy New Year to you too.

  • Philip Allen

    Colorado is stupid…they had rather sell marijuana to their citizens and pollute their minds and bodies, but don’t want to sell ammunition and guns because they kill people…really makes sense doesn’t it??? Sound like they have some of the insane politicians just like will be leaving the White House on Jan. 20th. These politicians including Barrack Obama have done more damage by accident than Russian Putin does on purpose.

    • Valor

      I don’t think the damage was done by accident. The Demorats know the more damage they do the more dependent people become on government, the more dependent they become the more power government has, and therefore the more power those IN power have.

  • Jean Langford M.

    PERFECTLY SAID…DUMBASS DUMBOCRAPS….STUPIDITY IN THER MOST SERIOUS SENSE.

    • Valor

      The real stupidity is those who believe in the 2nd Amendment and still vote Demorat. THAT is the mother of stupidity.

      • Jean Langford M.

        YEAH…LOL…LOL…I BELEIVE YOUR ABSOLUTLY CORRECT….LOL…LOL…

  • John Williams

    The left wing nuts on the Eastern slope of Colorado are to blame for this fiasco, as pointed out it was a “feel good” law and has not and will not make any difference. It was an unenforceable law, as is the other stupid law passed about the same time, background checks on ALL private gun sales, totally unenforceable, a waste of time and taxpayer money. People need to actually think these crap through. Remember whenever you vote, a democrat is NOT your friend. This will cost Colorado Billions in the end, but hey maybe they can make it up in pot sales.

  • Valor

    What is not really understood is these gun control advocates know the laws they propose and pass will do little to deter violence. Then when the next big news event involving guns occurs (Not always involving guns, right after 9-11 there were calls for “sensible gun laws”) they always say “We didn’t go far enough, we need to add this restriction or that restriction” knowing full well that won’t do anything either. The goal is the eventual disarming of the masses. A little here, a little there until that liberty is totally gone. Once disarmed, the masses are not only easier to control and rule over, the masses tend to turn to government for protection, thus further empowering government and those running government. This is the real goal.

  • Walter Flatt

    MASONS AND ALL TAX EXAMPT ENTITIES IT IS PAST TIME TO QUIT PLAY ACTING AND START WORKING TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY, LIKE MASONS DID THE FIRST 60 YEARS. BEFORE MUSLIMS TAKE US OVER AND STOP US HERE.

    I AM A 32 DEGREE MASON, WITH NEARLY 60 YEARS OF SERVICE AND I CAN TAKE A STAND. A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53. I AM ASHAMED OF WHAT JOHNSON’S TAX EXAMPTION CLAUSE DID FOR THIS COUNTRY.

    IF OUR FIRST PRESIDENT, GEORGE WASHINGTON A MASTER OF HIS LODGE TOOK A STAND, SO CAN YOU AND IF YOU DO NOT, YOU ARE TRYING TO DESTROY MY COUNTRY. HE DID NOT HIDE.

    NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, SUCH AS THE MASONIC LODGE, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS MOOSE, ELKS,AND ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, FIND OUT ABOUT PEOPLE RUNNING AND ADVISE THEIR PEOPLE THE TRUE STORY SO THAT THEY CAN VOTE FOR THE MOST QUALIFIED.

    TRUMP HAS SAID HE WOULD DO AWAY WITH WHAT THE TAX EXAMPT DEAL THAT JOHNSON PUT ON, KEEPING TAX EXEMPT ENTITIES FROM TALKING POLITICS.

    WE MUST FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY OR LOSE IT, THE MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO TAKE IT OVER AND THE BIASED MEDIA AND POLITICIANS ARE TOO STUPID TO TELL THE PUBLIC.

    IF WE DO NOT STICK TOGETHER AS A UNIT, THEN WE ARE DONE FOR. THE AMISH PEOPLE VOTED AS A UNIT FOR TRUMP AND GAVE HIM PA., OH., MICH., IOWA, FLA., NEARLY VA., AND HELPED IN IND. THIS SHOW WHAT CHRISTIAN PEOPLE CAN DO WHEN WE STICK TOGETHER.

    GOOGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015. WE CAN CHANGE THE DIRECTION OUR COUNTRY IS HEADING.

    MASONS HAD 14 PRESIDENTS AND 18 VICE PRESIDENTS, THE FIRST 100 YEARS AND WE DESIGNED WASHINGTON, DC. BUT BECAUSE OF A PLAN BY JOHNSON TO TAKE AWAY OUR TAX EXAMPTION WE ARE NOT ACTIVE IN POLITICS.

    TRUMP SAID HE WOULD DO AWAY WITH THE ABOVE LAW.

    I VOTED FOR TRUMP. IF YOU GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES 2015, YOU WILL KNOW WHY.

    A LAW WAS PASSED IN 1952 BANNING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY. LET US HOPE AND PRAY TRUMP ENFORCES THIS LAW.

    PRAY FOR PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP EVERY DAY. HE WILL NEED US TO OVERCOME THE EVEL OF THIS WORLD.

    GRAND LODGE IN WASHINGTON, AND GRAND LODGES IN EACH STATE HAD BETTER WAKE UP OR WE WILL LOSE ALL PRIVELAGES IF THERE IS A MUSLIM TAKE OVER AND SO WILL ALL TAX EXAMPTS.

    BELIEVERS IN CHRIST STICK TOGETHER, THIS IS WHAT MILLIONS AMISH PEOPLE DID. 30 LEADERS MEET IN OHIO WITH 3 MILLION AND VOTED THAT ALL WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP. THERE COULD BE 20 MILLION AMISH IN THIS COUNTRY.

    THIS IS WHAT GAVE HIM OH, PA, MICH, FLA, HELPED IN IND AND NEARLY GAVE HIM VA.

    FOLKS IF YOU DO NOT THINK GOD WAS INVOLVED IN THIS ELECTION, I SUGGEST YOU THINK AGAIN.

    I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN SET UP BY HILLARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SOROS, AND THE BIASED MEDIA AT A TRY FOR A MUSLIM TAKEOVER, IF NOT, WHY ARE THERE A MINIMUM OF 37 MUSLIMS CAMPS IN THE USA, (5 IN N. VA. CLOSE TO DC) AND A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO, TAKE OUR GUNS, BRING IN THOUSANDS OF YOU MUSLIMS. GET READY FOLK. PUT PIG GREASE ON YOUR BULLETS.

    OH, I HAVE KEEP RECORDS OF ALL THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED THE LAST 8 YEARS AND HAVE FACTS AND FIGURES IF ANY OF YOU PEOPLE DOUBT ME.

    SHARE, SHARE, SHARE THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

  • Gerry Costa

    This is what happens when you allow insane libtard demoTRASH from cali-gay-fornia take over your state.

    • Valor

      Exactly!! California was known as the “Golden State”! Now it is the “Granola State”! Fruits and nuts surrounded by flakes. And they are spreading like a cancer.

  • liberaldisgust

    Unfortunately for law abiding American Citizens , liberals protect the criminals and strip the law abiding of their RIGHTS … and gun laws are a perfect example , leftards impose unConstitutional restrictions on law abiding citizens while shielding the criminals …….

  • cdansreau

    i think you have to look at characteristics of cities and states with problems and realize the things they have in common. chicago, NY, colorado, CA, San Fran, LA. you see that they are and have been run by democrats. colorado adopting gun control laws like this one in the article has led to the business fleeing the state. The same is true of NY, CA. And you have to look at problems like gun free zones to realize that they are a magnet for disturbed people like james holmes. (i understand that he was a democrat like many shooters.)

    • Valor

      All very true. And all totally over the heads of brain dead liberals.

  • RsGoat

    Raising our children right would be a better safe guard then attempting to devise the correct set of laws that will lock each of into a set of life styles which will not allow incorrect behavior. What is wrong with teaching a two year old they don’t run the show? When they go to school that is an important lesson since most to those children in trouble will tell you “You’re not the boss of me!” How can a child learn or enjoy school if their years are spent in punishment because they don’t know who is in charge? And what is wrong with the variety of religions that teach children to behave, honor and respect parent’s? We take away every decent tool towards bringing up reasonably well adjusted adults then wonder why we have problems?
    What is wrong with that logic? I’m sure someone will hit me with some extreme nut case example to show me how wrong I am but are extreme cases good examples? I don’t think so, just for desperate people. Children are born without a thought in their head and we teach them everything they know good or bad, their logic and common sense whether it comes from cartoons they watch or friends so it is up to us to introduce as much good as we can to counter balance the bad they will come across.

    • Valor

      Very well put. What you are pointing out is result of the deliberate breakdown of the core family. No society can survive without the foundation of families.

      • lll%

        Amen to that.

  • TPM

    HEADLINE: Liberal politics bites Colorado’s job base.

    Oh well. At least traffic accidents have skyrocketed, since Colorado legalized pot.
    LibTards said Magpul’s products would hurt Colorado citizens. Really? How so? They were just playing liberal politics. BUT, legalizing pot was something that really is hurting the citizens of Colorado. Yet, they were behind that 100%. Go figure …

  • Frank W Brown

    Can’t fix stupid at all, kolorado, kalifornia, orbegone, washit-to ya ALL going the way of the dodo bird due to their libTARD populations!!

    • Valor

      Sadly, they may take the rest of the nation with them.

  • DD788Snipe

    Welcome to your version of Commiefornia. This is what happens when voters become apathetic and still think the DEMO-cratic party is the same as it was 30 years ago. They are nowhere near that. They are dangerous socialist/progressives and there is nothing Democratic about their ideals. Closer to Communists I’d say. So keep believing their lies and vote for them and your state will become East Commiefornia.

    • carl bebar sr.

      the trouble is that damn chicago has too many crooks and the democrap idiots living in cook county have no brains or they still vote when they die. this county needs a good cleaning as they get away with taxes on everything and laugh at the voters that vote them in, we are finally wakeing up as we got rid of the crooked governers (democraps) that are democraps that add a jail term to their term limits

  • Libs R Loons

    It’s interesting to note the irony of several democrat politicians in Colorado, who ran for office on the promise of legalizing marijuana, were “recall-voted” in 2013 after pushing legislation to keep their “dope-vote” voters from owning firearms on the premise that the people who elected them are “drug addicts” who can’t be trusted to own a firearm.

  • Jack Smith

    Kenneshaw Georgia proves anti gun people are IDIOTS
    http://www.naturalnews.com/038895_gun_ownership_Georgia_safety.html
    Anyone with a brain knows the most dangerous cities in America are the ones with the toughest gun laws.
    America if we took these Democrat cities away from Democrats would ba a much safer country to live in. Also these cities have massive poverty and welfare because the Democrats want Democratic voters to be enslaved by welfare and food stamp programs.
    It is my opinion that all Demon-oc-Rat politicians should be shipped over seas with all illegals to MAKE AMERICA Great again.

  • Discusted

    LIBRATS strike again … where they go NOTHING GROWS ! That is what smokin POT and living at high altitude does for you … makes you a STUPID DUMBA$$ !

  • oldwestman

    You know what they say “what goes around comes around” ain’t it the truth. How’s that stupidity working out for you dummies? If you would attack the real problems with illegal firearm use you might make a difference, punishing law abiding citizens is not the answer to your violence problems. Maybe better parenting skills might help, and maybe harsher punishment under the law for crimes committed with a firearm or any type of weapon would do the trick, but not harming your law abiding citizens should be your #1 priority.

    • Valor

      The master minds behind gun control are not interested in dealing with the real problems of firearm misuse. They use it as a means to and end. That end is total disarmament of the masses so the masses have to turn to their rulers of everything, including protection. Protection available only to those who prove to be good compliant subjects. As Hillary and said, she prefers a people unaware and compliant. That’s the real goal.

  • R. T.

    Just like when your farm is surrounded by a subdivision and your farm means nothing to the county anymore . All the people from the city ( liberal areas ) don’t like what you have there and change laws so you have to quit or move !

  • marcus johannes

    The People of Colorado should thank their disease brained Liberal Governor John Chickenpooper

  • JYuma

    The People of Colorado have been of Low intelligence for over 60 years, their driving habits are close to the worst in the World.
    Were it not for the Beauty of the State, I would Vote to GIVE it back to the Indians, that we Murdered to take it from.

    • 1775concord

      Apparently you have never driven in Massachusetts.

      • JYuma

        Ahh, contraire. I have, I was a OTR Truckdriver for a few years,an Ambulance driver for 25 years.
        I believe that I have driven in 49 of the 50 states. I have driven in Mexico, the Caribbean, London, other country’s of Europe.
        I still believe that the WORST drivers are in the Denver area. With the Drivers of Tucson, Az. and Phoenix in that order close behind.
        That however is just my Opinion.

        • 1775concord

          Thanks for your input.
          In the 1970s, the “Colorado Native” bumper stickers came out. A radio DJ noted that this destroyed the myth that all the bad drivers in Colorado were from out of sate originally.
          My vote is still for (against) Massachusetts.

          • JYuma

            Wlcm. I remember them had one on each Car. As a Matter of fact I have a “72” Malibu out back with one on it.
            I miss a few things from up there. One of the most is my Fishing Hole.
            Great Lake to teach kids how to fish and Love to Fish.Red Dirty Res. about 10 miles Northwest of Crumbling (?). Driving an Ambulance to the Motocross Races, and other Public events.

    • teachersaide

      When I lived in FL, the WORST “visiting” drivers were from NY, NJ, Michigan, & Massachusetts. While traveling, WORST Drivers were in NY & California! IF you left a couple of car lengths between you and car in front, doing 60 mph, A couple of cars would CUT YOU OFF, moving over in front of you!

  • disqus_tKlEuAw2uq

    i wanted to retire there until they came up with all of these dumb gun laws

  • ZACAL

    Look at the bright side Colorado, you have Wyoming residents driving over your state line to buy weed. Some contribution to society.

  • William H. Hutchison III

    Colorado used to be a good state. Now, with the Lefties in charge, it sucks, It makes me sad.

  • EE

    Maybe that smoke affects thinking ability more than addicts know!

    • JYuma

      Naaaaa, The Front Rangers [people that live on the East side of the Rocky’s] have been that way for the last 40years.
      Thats why I moved my Wife and Kids from there back then.

      • 1775concord

        Only Denver Boulder and part of Pueblo. Denver suburbs are OK mostly (tossup in Aurora and Jeffco); Colorado Springs and the entire eastern plains are OK.

        • JYuma

          I must say that you are right about where Colorado’s problem lies.
          Lakewood, ,the South end of Jefferson, is full of Liberals. Then what do you expect of someone that will build an 0ver $200,000 Dollar home in Bentonite Clay?
          The people as the City of Aurora, is and ALWAYS has been Liberal, if not down right Communist.
          Had I not had to Live in the Denver Metro area.It is very likely we, would still be in Colorado.
          We Do miss the Beauty of the rest of the State.

  • Wayne Winslow

    Stupid Colorado, good for you.

  • firemanfred

    For every job that was lost in Colorado, a Liberal State representative should loose their job…this will clear the State House of these MORONS. Time to Clean Colorado’s Swamp, of all these Pot Smoking Idiots!!!

    • JYuma

      Nothing but NOTHING will rid Colorado of the Morons that Infest it.

  • Over the years I have listened to the attack from the left on law abiding citizens attempting to protect themselves ,their families and their property by creating “gun laws”. It would appear they should have used existing laws which they never seemed to enforce on criminals who have yet to be removed from society. Heard a sheriff tell a group of concerned folks if they had a home break end they were to run out the door.BS. Criminals should be shot on the spot if they possess a gun in the commission of a crime. Unfortunately we now have a government that is lawless, pro-criminal and anti-law enforcement.

    • JYuma

      For the most part . If a person breaks into your home, they are armed, you may shot or kill them. There are about Seven little words that one needs to say with Convection; ” I WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE”.

  • will

    Ok I insert here a ” Henry Davis Laugh ” I love it

  • Lester Smith

    Good, more businesses should leave places like Colorado and California to go to others that aren’t as anti-American as they are.

  • Timothy Toroian

    Its been said before, Rah,Rah, MagPul!!

  • GuardianFlame

    What is wrong with Liberal thinking? Are they each just so crazily frightened of their own shadows that they cast that same fear on everyone else? Sadly, the dumb-downed American people just sit there and buy it instead of standing up and getting back in their faces with the real truths: “GUNS DO NOT SHOOT THEMSELVES – FINGERS, CONTROLLED BY SOMEONE’S CONFUSED BRAIN, PULL THE TRIGGER! GUNS BY THEMSELVES CANNOT AND DO NOT KILL ANYONE. IT’S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO TWISTED AND AFRAID OF WHAT THE MEDIA IS SPOUTING THAT THINK SHOOTING SOMEONE IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO THEIR UNABATED FEAR”.

    When Liberals realize that the only fear they have to deal with is tucked deep inside their very own brains, then and only then, will tragic killings disappear. FYI: Almost every shooter in the U.S. besides the muslim worms, has been a registered Democrat…yes, a Democrat, the very people who desperately want gun control! There is a HUGE issue here and it’s NOT Gun Control, but Brain Fear that is home grown in the Left’s grey matter.

    Get rid of that enormous issue and Gun control will be a thing of the past. A good way to do that is training each Liberal on how to use a gun. Yes, that’s what I said. Right now most of them wet their panties just looking at a hand gun, much less an AK47. Educate them, hands on training, and they will realize they are 100% wrong about guns. Just telling them won’t work. They must hold a gun, clean a gun, aim a gun and shoot a gun at a paper target. Once that is achieved, the “gun fear” will dissipate along with the need to wear Depends! It’s a No Brainer, and it will work! Until this happens, more liberal unrealistic states, afraid of their own shadows, will try to make gun control laws and they will scare away even more Weapons Plants, etc. until their economy collapses. 2017 is a New Year with New goals. Make teaching Liberals about guns a priority to end these ridiculous gun control activities fast!

  • Gary Qualls

    Proof the Democrat Liberalism KILLS !

  • CUZIN ERN

    These do goodies are all on a learning curve most people over look until they get a boot where it fits best!

  • RGW

    I am so glad to see current and future Legislators get an eye-opening economic slap of reality. Proof that knee-jerk reactions to criminal activity is a fools errand at best, legislation for the sake of legislation destroys your credibility and steals our freedoms. It doesn’t change the morals and heart of the criminal, at best it demoralizes the citizenry. Finally, it only creates more victims as it causes more citizens to become helpless in the sight of danger and terrorism. My personal belief is that the Legislators who come up with these anti-constitutional draconian laws to disarm or reduce the citizens ability to protect ourselves in light of current conditions should be thrown into court and hung if found guilty as traitors of America and our Constitution.

  • snowyriver

    The second amendment was put on the Constitution, meaning “arms” .. That is anything available to the government was available to the pubic.. Any laws in conflict are also in conflict with our Constitution.

  • blogengeezer

    Colorado don’ need no stinkin’ magazines. Colorado now in professional ‘roach’ business. “Takin’ care of business” is now Colorado’s motto,

  • wcplace

    Influx of Kookicommiefornia idiots into Colorado has doomed the state! Liberals are just like roaches, once they arrive they breed like mad and ruin every thing they touch! Such a shame, it is a beautiful state!

  • GRIZZ

    Butt if you own 30 Rd mags,they are granfatherd in.
    There is no way to prove if the mag was brought in after the law.
    Total dimmicrat idiocy.
    Butt then again,our gov drinks out of a EPA poisoned river cuz obasturd told him to.

  • teachersaide

    Anyone else familiar with the catch phrase, “Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy”? Apply this thought to LIBERALS in Colorado! Too bad, the Lefties have RUINED another productive state!

  • disqus_8yYxLDwBPm

    When Laws Are Arbitrary And Passed As Feel Good Pillows.. being founded upon NO real injured party, and NO fraud…Totally speaks fascism. A few jobs are lost? Please recognise how a failure in justice causes loss of local economy for Everyone.. And Do You “Really feel safer?”

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  • URKiddinMee

    Two absolute truisms my old West Texas Grand Dad taught me:
    1. You can’t fix stupid.
    2. You can’t polish a turd.
    Today’s democrats provide ample proof of both axioms. 😉

    • JYuma

      I heard about the same thing for my West Texas Grand Father.

  • tCotUS

    Magpul makes great products, employ many people indirectly, as well as directly. The Libs again showing their true colors by attacking business that do not suite them. Their agenda is total “CONTROL”. With a few Democrat moles like Graham, Flake, & traitor McCain.(helped give Obozo 95% of what he demanded). . We must work hard to get these people removed, & those like them. Watch closely what is happening in your own State & shut the cancer down before it starts. We will not forget,we will not forgive.

  • hmmathis

    Just more in the continuing saga of “Californication” of Colorado!

  • if you want to buy any gun with no id, no paperwork and no waiting buy them from your drug dealer. Obama frees drug dealers. He calls it harmless crimes.He always was a gun runner.

  • Larry Cowden

    When the common people choose “feel good laws” over actual laws that do nothing written by dumb ass all controlling liberals and democrats, they deserve to have their jobs stripped away, their economy punished, growth ended and more! NO STATE RUN BY DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS ever grows it’s economy, keeps it’s job, or halts it crime rates! The common people should remove those liberals and democrats in power to the shooting ranges and make them hold the targets!

  • tenquidinmybootaholeinmypocket

    It is long past time when we need to restore all the rights of the Citizen according to the bill of rights in the US constitution, we need to restore states rights, for too long now we have been under way too much federal law, the founding fathers did not intend such a powerful federal or central government, we need also now to have the houses filled with representitives sent there by the states, the right to bear arms needs to be celebrated and enforced, the citizen also needs to have and hold legally, equal fire power as that which the states and feds have, in other words equal weapons, no matter what those weapons are, they can be supplied to citizens without question. then I will once again have confidence in the US constitution.

  • marine by choice

    Why should Magpul’s leaving matter, Colorado is making money hand over fist because of their free run of legal marijuana.

    • JYuma

      Magpol is just another example of the Tax money Colorado has lost because of some of the Laws it has place into Law.
      As for the marijuana money. Colorado looses 3 times or more in what they make in Illegal sales of the Crap.

  • River blue

    You can thank Obama and all the phony Hollywood crowd that have moved into the state. Montana is becoming the same way, sad. Time to fight back.

    • Osamao

      Yup. Liberal Tyranny Sucks.

  • chief1937

    Good move if one state doesn’t want you go to another not to court demanding they be forced to allow you to stay. That is the smart thing to do unlike some who want to force their wants upon you like the baker who didn’t want to bake a cake. Sound familiar?

    • Osamao

      Yeah. It says something. Liberals are fascistic control freak A. Holes.

    • JYuma

      HUH?

  • missinger

    Since the Democrats care nothing about the Constitution why shouldn’t trump use the same logic and clean up this country

    • JYuma

      What?????????

  • John

    It makes me happy to see Democrats get it stoke in their asses when it comes to gun laws, the people of this state voted for these moron’s so they go what they deserved. Here are some well know facts, gun laws don’t work. Why, because bad guys don’t follow them or any other laws we have, and two. Guns don’t kill people , people do. We have seen a number of terrorist attacks lately and they weren’t using guns , I.E trucks, cars, knifes. but yet when these items are used to maim or kill people, you hardly hear a word about it. What American’s need to do is, get rid of the liberals, the democratic party, and the progressives, there’s groups are what has held America back now for decades. We don’t need more laws, we need to enforce the laws we have on the books, but until America get rid of these groups, this won’t be allowed to happen, I can only hope that the newly elected President changes all this.

  • DrRGP

    Good report, but, of course, that’s “no state is so well off that it [not “they”] can afford . . . .” Every writer should know that that a “state” is not a “they.”

  • Sandy Hensley

    Just how did the liberal gun laws make the people of the state feel safer ? It didn’t make them safer it made them targets for criminals who don’t have to get the gun’s from that state and for that matter criminals and terrorist usually get their guns in the black market or from another person , they don’t have to buy it from a gun store or any store for that matter ! And now they should be worrying about the criminals King Obama and the liberal party released from prison, Obama released more criminals then all the presidents put together so if liberals get beat up or worse they can thank their ignorant liberal Obama and their liberal party but we all know liberals won’t blame themselves for anything they’ll blame Republicans for everything and after 8 years their still blaming Bush for everything under the sun !Liberals took over the state of Colorado and the reason people voted them into office was because they wanted to grow and smoke pot and sell pot ! Liberals are destroying the states they are in charge of and hopefully Colorado won’t be destroyed like other liberal states. What’s strange is I thought Colorado was a state that people loved to hunt in and then passing these gun’s law’s doesn’t make any sense at all. Look at the strict gun laws in Illinois and Chicago, the crime rate is out of control and since its a liberal state nothing will be done about it because liberals are to ignorant to understand anything where they have to use common sense ! I think after 8 long years of Obama and the liberal parties dictatorship most of the American people know just how ignorant Obama and the liberal party are and we all know Obama and the liberal party don’t have any common sense at all ! They voted for liberals into office and now their paying the price.

  • tarheel61

    Nothing has changed, Hillary should pay for each and every crime she’s guilty of, period!

  • buffalo lips

    You have to wonder, which comes first: Liberalism or Stupidity

  • Harry Trawick

    The Left bombs out again! But remember, Colorado also voted harry reid as their senator for around 4 decades!

    • JYuma

      Excuse me!
      harry reid was the Senator for, from Nevada, not Colorado. The was another butt wipe, who’s name I do not care to look up.

      • Harry Trawick

        Sorry, sometimes it’s hard to tell one left wingnut state from another.

        • JYuma

          Have that problem Too. HUH?

  • Benjamin Michel

    Well they moved and show the dumb boy,s that they could keep on making there mags and sales went up big time!!

  • Jim McGann

    I think this is a result of Russia hacking Colorado. Thank the anti-gun lobby for this loss!

  • WhiteFalcon

    That is interesting, but to my knowledge, Magpull does not manufacture ammunition. They manufacture mainly magazines for the M-4 rifles and also for the AR 15 rifles.

  • imjmz

    I bet their are a lot of politicians feeling pretty foolish right about now. They should have felt foolish for even allowing such a law to get passed their House.

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  • James R. Currier

    Time to get rid of the democRATS and ALL liberals.

  • ward

    Another asinine move by libtard dems to destroy the U.S. economy and Patriotic Constitutional Freedom, Rights 7 Liberty ! Democrats take warning that you are ignorantly supporting commie dictators that want to steal the U.S.A. for their greedy whims & ways of the few to enslave the righteous, law abiding citizens … ! There is no such thing as a little socialism & too many asinine laws creating a dictator of tyranny !

  • Paladin

    As my old daddy used to say, “Ignorance is not knowing; Stupidity is knowing better!!!”

  • jerry

    Hahahahahahahaha
    Stupid is as stupid does!!!!!!!!!!

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    Obama is out but he want stop what he has been doing these last EIGHT YEARS.

  • Robert Rios

    Liberal thinking is what happens when you replace common sense with political corrections. In Colorado pot is good for you and can be legally sold but, magazines holding more than 15 rounds is illegal! I guess Colorado’s thinking is, if you don’t have a job, you can always stay stoned!

  • BH

    It would have really been ironic if their manufacturing site was in NC. It would offset the LGBT nonsense.

  • albaby2

    Who the hell wrote this story. Magpul does not make ammunition, they make magazines and I guess the stories reference to “anti-Ammunition laws is actually referring magazine capacity laws. C’mon FTN, you can do better than this story.

    • JYuma

      I thought that , they had or were starting to make Ammo.

      • albaby2

        I knew they sold dummy rounds but I can’t find any Magpul ammo for sale anywhere. If there is any one the market it is probably made by someone else and relabeled.

        • JYuma

          Maybe some one knows, will let us know.

  • Libs R Loons

    In 2012, 2 democrats were elected on the promise of “legalizing marijuana”, but what they failed to mention was that anyone purchasing it would be put on a list of “drug addicts”, thereby rendering them unable to legally own a firearm. That’s what prompted their recall election.

  • Yosariancatch22

    Lib -Tards never learn. It’s sure is fun watching them spin their heads around like Linda Blair in the Exorcist now that their “mediocre Marxist negro” is finished and left office as a failed president stomping his feet and throwing a temper tantrum . HAhahahaa … LMFAO.

  • Everett Conrad

    Stupid is as stupid does. Liberals in Colorado are very stupid when they do a knee jerk reaction like they did with the magazine law that will do NOTHING but lose jobs, which it did. Nice going there retards.

  • myfordtruck

    Sucks to be a democrat right now for sure

  • SOON COLORADO WILL BE KNOWN AS THE WEED WACKER CAPITAL. THE HEAD QUARTERS OF JUNKIE NATION. IT IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST WALL STREET BOOM IN YEARS. FOLLOWED BY THE SECOND BIGGEST BUSINESS BOOM. THE REHAB INDUSTRY. THEN THE MEXICAN DRUG LORDS WILL COME TO TAKE THEIR BUSINESS BACK. WHAT’S THE SAYING. SILVER OR LEAD?

  • ward

    Appears all the bo E.O.’s that favored the socialistic democrats the bo crony administration has no after 8 years proven to be destruction to the U.S. Constitutional Freedom & Rights to all Patriotic Citizens.. ! bo’s B.S. on gun control took over the common sense of CO citizens & now they are paying the price of being an asinine libtard crony of bo’s wannabe dictatorship that failed … ! NO sympathy for their libtard stupidity and they screwed the law abiding gun owners… ! Seems that after 8 years of bo’s abuse of power E.O.’s supporting illegal foreigners & muslim terrorists that democrats have tagged themselves a #1 U.S. enemy !

  • Libertarian Soldier

    Every new gun law is just a milestone to gut the 2nd Amendment. Leftists believe guns are evil, pictures of guns are evil, pointing your finger like it’s a gun is evil, taking two bites out of a pop tart to shape it similar to a 2 dimensional gun is evil, even if you’re a child. At some point, so few people will have guns that taking them away, completely will be quick, easy and the populace will be so close to it, already, the difference will be seamless. This is the goal of the left, take and take and then limit how much ammunition can be used.

    Recently, I had a conversation with someone that said he believed that only trained, educated gun owners should have guns. I’m not completely on board with anybody telling someone else what their qualifications have to be for a natural right but I believe every gun owner should train for safety. He said, then, that if everybody is trained with a gun, no person should be in position of more than t bullets and banana clips shouldn’t exist. That’s the problem with the left. They want to tell everybody how it isn’t.