Republicans Push for Constitutional Amendment on Term Limits







Sen. Ted Cruz and House Rep. Ron DeSantis are joining forces to push for a constitutional amendment that would impose term limits on members of Congress. In a statement, Cruz said such an amendment would eliminate the current incentive system in Washington that encourages politicians to fly under the radar.

“The American people resoundingly agreed on Election Day, and President-elect Donald Trump has committed to putting government back to work for the American people,” Cruz said. “It is well past time to put an end to the cronyism and deceit that has transformed Washington into a graveyard of good intentions.”

If passed, the amendment would hold House representatives to three two-year terms and senators to two six-year terms. The proposal matches a similar promise made by President-elect Donald Trump in the closing weeks of his campaign and is currently supported by several Republican senators, including Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson.

Cruz and DeSantis vowed to bring forth the amendment bill in early December with an op-ed in the Washington Post:

In an age in which partisan divisions seem intractable, it is remarkable that public support for congressional term limits is strong regardless of political affiliation β€” huge majorities of rank-and-file Republicans, Democrats and independents favor enacting this reform. Indeed, according to a Rasmussen survey conducted in October, 74 percent of likely voters support establishing term limits for all members of Congress. This is because the concept of a citizen legislature is integral to the model of our democratic republic.

Critics of term limit legislation say that elections themselves are enough of an obstacle to the kind of political careerism that Cruz and DeSantis are warning of. They claim that term limits would only strengthen the power of special interests and lobbyists, which is a stronger factor in Washington corruption.

But proponents argue that the absence of term limits encourages lawmakers to keep a low profile, obey the establishment leadership, and slowly but surely work their way up the D.C. ladder of success.

“Without term limits, the incentive for a typical member is to stay as long as possible to accumulate seniority on the way to a leadership post or committee chair,” Cruz and DeSantis wrote. “Going along to get along is a much surer path for career advancement than is challenging the way Washington does business.”

There’s no doubt that “safe,” decades-long seats on Capitol Hill contribute to ideological stagnation, but we don’t know to a certainty how term limits would affect the Washington culture. It may be a fix; it may cause more problems than it solves.

Thankfully, the Founders put in place a system that makes it extremely difficult and arduous to change the Constitution. Three-fourths of American state legislatures would have to approve the amendment for it to pass, and that’s no small feat. The idea is that only the best ideas would survive the obstacle course. If passing an amendment on term limits is a mistake, it won’t be one made in haste.

In the meantime, a national debate on how to fix what’s wrong with Washington would not be the worst use of our political attention.


  • Justin Seine

    IMHO, term limits should be imposed on every elected office in the country. What was once considered public service is now a game of self service known as “Who Wants to be a Millionaire”. Once these people get a taste of the Kool Aid in the public trough, wild horses can’t drag them away, but term limits can. Some other limits need to be considered as well such as the elimination of the double, triple, quadruple… dipping on taxpayer funded pensions. These suggestions should, at least in part, should be made part of the “Drain the Swamp” campaign.

    • ernldo

      Term limits also need to be applied to the judiciary, as well as an expedited recall procedure. We have senile liberal moron judges making law and it needs to STOP! Ruth Buzzie Ginsburg is my extreme case in point….

      • Rosech Levy

        I agree that the SC judges should be retired at no later than age 65 and if ill, then removed then as the example you give of dear OLD Ruthie is a classic case of ancient, sick, mentally deficit, etc. By the way Trump could appoint more than one as in past SC’s there have been actually up to 11 and even 13, so go Trump. No matter if the democrats think they can delay anything, they seem to forget WE HAVE THE NUCLEAR RIGHT NOW since deal old nasty Reid got it started! Just love it and how they will suffer. By the way, Obama’s might think he can appoint Garland without our consent, but he is full of garbage and it won’t happen and last! Another ill-thought out action by the brainless illegal alien in our WH.

        • sensrbtch

          so why did the founding fathers and mothers make the stipulation? cicumblk!

          • Cheryl Detar

            The original SC had six.

        • Cheryl Detar

          There were as few as six.

        • Mike

          the nuclear option was only for lower court appointments not the supreme court. now the republicans can change the rules but be careful on that as once they are out of power the rule change remains see Reid’s move you reference. as for stacking the court as fdr tried to do that is not constitutional as he found out.

          • Mathew Molk

            The court needs to be stacked with neutral Americans. No liberals allowed for sure.

          • Mike

            well if we are looking for neutral people then no conservatives either. that would be a dream. a truly neutral court.

          • Richard Hennessy

            A truly neutral court would be one that interprets the Constitution as it is written, what is frequently referred to as “conservative”. How else would one define neutral?

        • db

          I agree with you. But if he figures he can fool all the people most of the time without being truly vetted, why not try anything he deems he has power to do?!He is after all, being coached by an Iranian Muslim, Communist who was never elected or even voted on by the People, much less approved by any legal or ethical means available. She has assumed the position based on his illegal presidency and has destroyed our country from within. It is time to call a spade a spade and she is not only a Muslim, but part of an ideology that wants all Americans dead and out of the way for their Sharia Law installation! Obama has already appointed too many muslims to governmental posts, and one is too many! I can only pray that this will all be reversed when our true leader is installed this month!

      • Velma Saccone

        I totally agree with you.

      • Carolyn Henderson

        Amen

      • Paula

        Not only senile liberal moron judges but also Communist Feminazis!

        • Paula

          One more thing, why was ANTONIN SCALLIA buried without an Autopsy???
          He was buried after a HIspanic Layer declared “Died by Natural Causes”. NO AUTOPSY!!!
          The highest Man in the Justice Department! NO Questions Asked???

          • RICHARD

            and all was done really fast

          • Cheryl Detar

            I still believe, he was murdered.

          • Mike

            omg stop with the conspiracy nonsense. he was old and passed away. i did not often agree with the man but let him rest in peace

          • Michael Dennewitz

            The Cliton cartel has had MANY done away with, including Chris Kyle, the best SNIPER in the whole world. The HNIC knew that one day, Chris would come for his sorry little faggot ass! The Cliton Cartel makes the old mafia look like kindergarten kids! 😣

      • Laddyboy

        ernldo: One point in your comment can be changed. The “sc” makes NO laws. Their JOB is to make sure that any law passed IS reviewed to make sure it follows the dictates and rules of the Constitution. Then, and only after the review, they give their OPINION to Congress. THIS IS their J O B.

        • ernldo

          I wasn’t only referring to the Supremes, and there are lower court judges making law everywhere, which needs to stop!

          • Laddyboy

            ernldo: I agree wholeheartedly!

        • Mathew Molk

          Is that how they ruled insurance premiums are a tax? don’t smell good from MY house.

          • Laddyboy

            Yep! They also had a hand in changing the SSFund from a FORCED SAVINGS PLAN into an entitlement which congress also colluded in AFTER stealing(taking) MILLIONS of dollars out while leaving a blank unsigned “IOU”.

      • db

        totally agree.

    • Righteous Truth

      Your argument seems to imply that We, the People – the VOTERS – are not capable of “draining the swamp” at our polling places. I guess we must be pretty ineffectual as citizens, huh? I mean, our VOTES are the “original” term limits, right?

      • cp123

        You forget how much false news and koolaid drinkers there are.

        • Righteous Truth

          Ummm, Carol, please explain what you mean. Thanks.

          • jim

            Open that mind of yours R truth! Do you really need to be ‘spoon fed’ ?

          • Righteous Truth

            No need to be demeaning to a person with an opposing view, Jim.

        • Rosech Levy

          True, cp, but I think a lot of think have awakened and that is encouraging.

      • BlueWarrior

        Term limits apply to the president. Why should they not apply to both houses of congress?

        • Righteous Truth

          The Power of the People resides in the Polling Booth.

        • sensrbtch

          THE CONGRESS WILL NOT VOTE AGAINST ITSELF. AND WHY DOESN’T THE PREZ HAVE A LINE ITEM VETO POWER, LIKE THE GOVERNORS?!

          • Mathew Molk

            Why can a bill have “attachments” – That’s easy, It’s how they make sleazy deals. If you want my vote for the good part you proposed you vote for the thorouly rotten thing i attached to your bill.

            We need another amendment that a bill must be voted on just as it is originally written. If you want to change it, Kill it and re write it from scratch. No more bridges to nowhere.

            It would be good if it slows down the legislative process too. We have way too many laws on the books already we conveniently choose not to enforce.

      • Motorhead

        We have seen the results of support of the Political elites! It isn’t a swamp… it is a cesspool. Money corrupts and allows for the re-election of the most corrupt. No …term limits returns power to the people and stops the concentration of money and corruption in politics! Right now the election is determined by who is sold out the most. Term limits is the answer!

        • Righteous Truth

          The POWER of the People is their VOTE – not an artificial construct like “term limits.” It’s really a simple concept: You have a Bad Congressman, you vote him out. Why is that such an impossibility? Term limits are for lazy voters who don’t stay focused on their civic duties and only creep out of their holes at election time.
          On a related question: Why did only 55% of those of voting age in the US vote in the 2016 election? (A 20 year low, by the way.) It appears that 45% of us either didn’t care or were sick in bed (and in need of some quality health care). How come?

          • jim

            Money wins elections R Truth !! Your vision is in default !! Voters DO NOT vote out BAD politicians per your suggestion. We have many, many BAD ones here in Massachusetts and they keep on like the energizer bunny.. One major example is Barney frank and his ilk!!

          • Motorhead

            I agree. SUPPORT TERM LIMITS!

          • Carolyn Henderson

            That’s why “term limits”!

          • Mathew Molk

            And their MONEY!

          • Motorhead

            I agree that the voter particupation is terrible. That doesn’t address the need to stop the accumulation of power of in the political system. The power belongs to the people not the elite. The elites are more concerned about their reelection than the will of the purple. The way thing are is most likely the reason for low voter particupation. Once established ,it is nearly impossible to unseat an Incumbent. This is why nothing changes in Washington..accumulation of power corrupts…TERM LIMITS is the answer! God bless America and the 82nd Airborne!

          • John

            And in fact, the “professional politicians” have bankrupted the Social Security System by stealing the money and buying votes with it!! TERM LIMITS PLEASE!!

          • Mathew Molk

            with you ALL THE WAY,,,AND THEN SOME!

            (For the snowflakes,,,You would have to have been there to understand that)

          • Motorhead

            All the way..every day..Airborne..thank you brother.God Bless!

          • Carolyn Henderson

            Still need term limits. Votes are swapped & bought in the ‘good ‘ole boys network (congress& Senate). 2 terms is enough for all office holders. Supposed to be “service for the people”, not a career to swap & barter votes in the network.

          • Paula

            Maybe we should also take a good look who the voters are! Immigrants that do not bother to Assimilate or learn our Language, it actually used to be you have to be able to read, write and speak English BEFORE you could became a CITIZEN! Now we just print the Ballots in any Language! Add an other few Million Illegal Invaders that have access to the Ballot Box, thanks to the Communist Democrats!
            Children, some are not even out of Highschool, no clue how our Government work or ever had to pay a bill to support themselves!
            People that have been all their lives on welfare, produced scores of children that will most likely be on welfare!
            Those are just a few of the reasons why so many Citzens are frustrated about the Voting System!

          • Mike

            you have no idea what you are talking about. illegals do not vote despite what your conspiracy junk says. its difficult to become a citizen. based on these assumptions I doubt you could pass the test.

          • Mathew Molk

            Are you nuts or what. All it takes in California to vote is a driver’s license and they gave 800,000 illegals driver’s licenses and then his royal exalted boma told them to go ahead and vote. You believe they didn’t?

            Then in Detroit precincts tailed up more votes for the hillrat then they had voters registered and that is what they turned up with a recount sponsored by the cackling witch. The immediately quit their investigation on the sopt BTW.

            No in depth investigation into voter fraud has been undertaken and that stuff has already turned up. What kind of a snowflake are you not admitting there was massive fraud?

            And nobody but you is saying anything about a “conspiracy” It is just exposing the facts of what a crook Hillery Clinton and the entire DNC establishment are.

            What kind of a snowflake are you? You are the one that has no idea what they are talking about. Their is and always has been very wide spread corruption at the polls for decades and term limits can’t help but alienate some of it.

          • Mike

            you are completely wrong about California. illegal aliens cannot and did not vote. there were a couple of trump supporters who were arrested for voting twice however. obama also never said an illegal alien could vote. that comes from an interview when a citizen whose parents are illegal asked if they could get in trouble if she the citizen were to vote. obama did state at that time all citizens should vote and there information was not out into databases so they should not far voting would effect their parents who are in this country illegally.

          • John

            The only problem with your statement is that the politician who generally spends the most on his campaign usually wins, the one surprising fact is the fact that Trump won, which flies in the face of traditional outcomes. I do think we need term limits to eliminate the “professional politician” that is so well entrenched as to be very hard to beat due to the amount of money he can raise for an election. It seems almost every election outcome is directly related to the amount of money available for the campaign. NEVER mind where that money comes from.

          • Righteous Truth

            That doesn’t say much for the American voter, does it? I mean, the American voter isn’t getting any of that cash, right?

            Some more questions I’d like to hear your thoughts on: Are ALL “professional politicians” bad? * How is having inexperienced people in government a good thing? Should we have a government that is learning their job “on the fly?” Do major corporations look for the most inexperienced people they can find? Do sewing machine manufacturers hope to hire plumbers to turn out their bobbins?

            * If SOME “professional politicians” are good to have around, then how do you design a system that keeps the good and tosses the bad?

          • John

            Well if you could discount the power of advertising you could possibly forestall term limits, however at this time and given the level of corruption in congress, I submit that you are most likely going to get rid of a few good apples along with the rotten ones to clean out the container. I agree it would be good to probably have a few of the best ones on board, but remember, they are all attorneys and that, in itself, should speak volumes. Attorneys have the job of lying about an issue and convincing all that their viewpoint is right. That is their job, whether to a jury or the body of congress. I also submit it isn’t rocket science, honesty is paramount, and wouldn’t it be refreshing to have a few doctors and a few engineers and maybe an electrician or a window washer instead of all those damn attorneys?

          • Righteous Truth

            So, let me see how you answered my questions: Q: Are they all bad? You: No, but we just might have to “toss out the baby with the bath water,” BUT, it would probably be good to have some of the best ones stick around. (How do we accomplish that?)

            Q: Does “experience” in governing help? You: It’s not rocket science – which I interpret as “experiece not necessary.”

            Of course you know that not all Senators or Congresspeople are attorneys, right?

          • Mathew Molk

            I dissagree. There is not one single career politician i would trust to buy a round for the crew after work. They are ALL corrupt self serving bastards.

            Experience in government is counter productive. Remember the scariest words on the planet? “I am from the governmant and I’m here to help you”

            Most congressmen ARE lawyers and the ones who are not soon pick up their lying ways or they are eliminated. Truth is deadly to the PC professional politician.

          • John

            Yep, we might get a few good ones out too, but it would be worth it!!

          • Mathew Molk

            1- Yes…Can’t name one that doesn’t have his hand in the cookie jar.

            2- Business experience is WAY, WAY, WAY better then political experience. In business when something doesn’t work we shitcan it. When an employee doesn’t get the job done we send them down the road. When we are low on operating capital we STOP SPENDING MONEY. as we can’t just print some more.

            3. In big business they do hire politicians for CEOs and they screw up everything they touch. Look at HP and Carley Schmarley and there are many companies such as Radio Shack that that no longer exist that made that fatal mistake, but the dynamic companies and often put sales or engineering people in the drivers seat and they do quite well.

            4. Check out the history books, Yes sewing machine companies do take Plumbers and have them turn out, not bobbins but M-1 Carbines, like Singer Sewing machine did in WWII (You obviously have no knowledge of the trades if you think Plumbers only know how to set a commode) You are out of your league here with no knoledge of manufacturing. BTW.

            So. ever hear absolute power corrupts absolutely. I used to think McCain was a good guy. Look at him now.

            Also ever hear money screws up anything, Look at what it did to NASCAR. They used to build the car themselves and “run what you brung” Anybody with desire and moxie could make it to the top, Now they have A-frames that are designed and tested with Solidworks 3D modeling software and then machine them on a million dollar haas 6 axis machining center. You can make a small fortune racing,,,if you start out wilt a large one. You better have 10 million bucks if you want to make the parade lap at Daytona.

            The more money the professional politicians make the more they want and the more corrupt they get. Name one career politician that reitred broke. The seniors all retire with multiple mansions and more money in the back then they were paid in salaries. How is it they spend 100million to get a 400K/year job?

            It’s way past time for term limits and time to send them ALL down the road.

            S

          • Righteous Truth

            Small tool designer & manufacturer here, Matthew…. just so you know. Had my first factory job after I graduated from high school at 17.

            So, like I said, with all the (apparently) awful politicians running around, don’t you think that the Patriot American Voter ought to take some blame for returning neatly 98% of those incumbents who were running in 2016?

          • Mathew Molk

            “You have a Bad Congressman, you vote him out. Why is that such an impossibility” Easy,,,,MONEY……If you can’t understand that you have been in Candy Land way too long. —-Check out Rodney Dangerfield in the movie “Back to school” when he it trying to explain reality to his economics prof. It wouldn’t be half as funny if it were not the diein’ Truth,

            Righteous, You need to get out in the world and see just how corrupt government is from the local zoning board all the way to the White House. The thing we have going for us is President Trump knows this and he has been the victim of this kind of corruption and he is on our side for a change. No professional politician would ever buck the very system that put them in place and filled their pockets. Trump is not one of these bastards, thank God.

            And New politicians are much less likely to owe all the favors then the ones that have been there a lifetime. –

          • Righteous Truth

            So, Matthew, MONEY is the problem that the voters don’t do their jobs? Are voters getting paid by Soros or the Kochs or Romney or Adelson?
            How do I get me some? How much have you gotten or offered? How does this MONEY thing work? Apparently, it’s easy….

        • Mathew Molk

          Maybe not the complete answer but it sure as hell is a step in the right direction.

          • Motorhead

            I completely agree with you! Thanks for speaking out! God bless!

      • Rosech Levy

        Yes, Righteous, and we have failed miserably just thinking of voting again and again for garbage among which are registered socialists and communists. Surely we need to extremely vet candidates and wake up to the fact this is a REPUBLIC and not a democracy and we the People are the Government and we must be truly informed and vote for a candidate with character and understands fully they are to represent us and not themselves and another reason to never, ever elect a muslim!

        • Righteous Truth

          Just a reminder, Rosech Levy, there is no religious requirement for ANY elected office, as per the wisdom of the Founders. Christians – even Catholics and Baptists, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, and Non-Believers can legally run for office – even President. Just because a person is a Baptist doesn’t mean you have to vote for him/ her. Just because a person is a Muslim doesn’t mean you should vote against him/her.

          • jim

            I don’t believe you are correct R truth! Mooslams hold that Koran above ALL else. This cannot be conducive to our Republic !!!

          • Righteous Truth

            Nope, Jim, I’m right. Look it up!

          • Richard Pope

            RT,
            . . . . Nope, you are wrong.
            GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
            rich!

          • Righteous Truth

            Check your Constitution, Richard, and let me know where it makes specific reference to the religion a person needs to be to hold public office in the zuS.

          • Mayor11

            The problem is that Muslims hold the Koran first and for most in their beliefs and it contradicts with our Constitution How can they take an oath to support the Constitution when their belief is against all that it stands for? Still don’t see how they can be citizens.

          • Mathew Molk

            No body said it was unconstitutional. Just stupid. How ’bout having a devout NEO Nazi as President or even on the school board.

            And BTW, I don’t remember anyone saying it was unconstitutional for a son of mohamid to run. They said NEVER vote for the son of a bitch!.

          • Righteous Truth

            I was responding to Richard Pope who declared that it was unconstitutional for a Muslim to run for public office. I proved him wrong. Facts, you know…. stubborn things. Our Founders simply practiced religious tolerance, which makes sense since America was founded on the ideal of Freedom of Religion. If you are hoping to restrict the practice of certain religions here in the US, you first of all, will be going against the precepts of the Founders, but will need to modify the US Constitution – in several areas.

          • Motorhead

            I just do not trust someone as righteous as you! Sounds like you believe you know everything. So did Hitler…I have come to the firm conclusion that you…are a …PUTZ!

          • Righteous Truth

            You don’t have to trust ME, Motorhead, just read the Constitution and report back where it says you have to be a Christian or where it says anyone can run for public office as long as they aren’t a Muslim or that a Godless Atheist! Show me, don’t trust me. Trust our Founders.
            AND, it’s really OK to discuss America and its future as an adult – without the demeaning namecalling. We left that behavior back in grade school, right?

          • Carolyn Henderson

            Constitution and Koran completely incompatible. You cannot serve the Koran and the Constitution.

          • Motorhead

            There you go again talking out your blow pipe! You more you speak …the more my bullsh!t antenna goes up. I do not necessarily completely disagree with all you say except your imaginary right to be able to vote for the same person into office in perpetuity. You look in the Constitution and see if you have that right and it can not be changed! It can and should be! As for your right for voting…you can vote for anybody you want but the vote can be nullified… if we change the law! I have always believed in free speech and I know a crap slinger when I smell it!

          • Righteous Truth

            MotΓΆrhead, please leave your grade school insults on the playground and join the adults in learned discussion.

          • Mathew Molk

            Drop dead, you PC asshole.

            Moterhead speaks in the “vernacular of the workplace” where the adults who bust their asses go ever day to make a living and then pay taxes.

            Go back with the other children and play with the crayons while you still can. Your mealy mouthed PC free stuff world is coming to an end.

          • Righteous Truth

            Matthew, please leave your grade school insults on the playground and join the adults in learned discussion.

          • Carolyn Henderson

            I agree. Totally incompatible.

          • Carolyn Henderson

            Amen.

          • Mayor11

            Personally I don’t see how a Muslim can even be a citizen of the US because of the Koran and their belief

          • Carolyn Henderson

            Amen

          • Richard Pope

            RT,
            . . . . It is obvious that you didn’t read the article. Once in a while we get someone who has integrity and really wants to make a difference. If he/she tries to make a difference he is pushed in to a closet and the key is thrown away until he finally quits in disgust. In my 60+ years on this planet I have seen it happen several times. And then life goes on in congress as if this person was never elected. If you make waves you get shut down. Yes, it would be nice if we lived in a world such as you are imagining but we don’t. We need term limits.
            . . . . It is against federal law for muslims to come in to the US, to live here, or to be harbored here. Since we are involved in WWIII it becomes High Treason during wartime to do so. This is a capital offense. This means that no muslim can be a citizen or hold any office in any government in the US. This also means that barrackie the muslim is not our President and never has been. This also means that any laws, Presidential decrees, or pardons that he has signed are null and void. They carry no weight of law.
            GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
            rich!

          • Righteous Truth

            Really, Richard? “Against federal law for Muslims to come to the US, to live here” – really? Would it surprise you to know that we have ACTUAL Muslims serving as members of Congress – openly?

            In fact, (quoting from Wikipedia), Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison for his swearing in, used a two-volume Qur’an once owned by Thomas Jefferson, borrowed from the rare book and special collections division of the Library of Congress. Ellison said that the use of the Jefferson Qur’an demonstrated “that from the very beginning of our country, we had people who were visionary, who were religiously tolerant, who believed that knowledge and wisdom could be gleaned from any number of sources, including the Qur’an.”
            No lie, Richard – and it’s legal, Constitutional, and happening!

          • Richard Pope

            RT,
            . . . . What I told you is the truth. I am a born again Christian and I don’t lie. Unfortunately it isn’t being enforced. The law dates back to the time of the Barbary pirates and the invasion of Tripoli. If you read history you can find out all about it. islam was declared to be a terrorist organization. Any citizen that converts to islam is automatically in violation of federal law and they lose their citizenship.
            . . . . Nope it is not legal nor constitutional for these people to be in office. The oath of office on a quran means nothing. We are infidels and our rules and laws mean nothing to them. It was how barrackie the muslim was able to stand up in front of a billion people while taking the oath of the President and lie through his teeth to all of us.
            . . . . I can see that what others have said about you are true. I would strongly recommend that you go home, get out your favorite drug, turn on the boob tube, listen to your favorite propaganda channel, pack your bags, and get on the first plane out of the country. We are sick and tired of traitors like you. We don’t want nor need people like you to be here.
            GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
            rich!

          • Righteous Truth

            “We don’t want or need people like you (the Righteous Truth) to be here,” thus saith Richard Pope, born again Christian.

            Well, Richard, I am a Christian as well, although my original faith “took” so I retain the faith that my beloved parents bestowed upon me from my childhood.
            I believe you when you say that you don’t lie, nor was I even implying such. You are, however, horribly misinformed: It is legal and Constitutional for Muslims to be in the US, vote, and even hold public office.

            You may not want me here – in the US and here in this discussion, but I have the same rights as you do, so “here” I remain.

            I was under the assumption that born again Christians, like you, are trying to emulate the good works of Jesus Christ. I suppose you believe that you are “cleansing the temple” by attempting to kick me out of “here.” I have to tell you, Richard, that I am not going anywhere and Jesus would agree with me.

          • Mathew Molk

            The koran says moslems can lie cheat and steal from us infidels as much as you want to advance the cause of islam. To trick us into a false sence of security and acceptance of them and then to enslave and kill us is moslem SOP..

            I, for one do not trust you. I think you are a snake in the grass.

          • Righteous Truth

            Gee, Matthew – and here I was hoping that we could become bosom buddies….

          • Mathew Molk

            It’s Happening and that is what we are more then concerned with. We do not want moslems in our governement…none at all. They cannot be trusted.

            You must either be in or are running for office and have your eye on becoming a career politician. Look at the way you are trying to portray TJ as a moslem. I got a copy of Mein Kampf around here somewhere and we also have an English translation of the Torah here on a shelf in my office. Dose that make me Jewish Nazi? (I’m actually a Catholic of Slovenian linage – Spelling of last name was “Moljk” before my grandparents got to Ellis Island)

            Speaking of spelling, I also find you spelling of the koran (I never capitalize that to show my contempt for it) highly suspect. Are you pro sheria law?

            Snowflake, You are showing your true colors here.

          • Righteous Truth

            My true colors: American citizen and taxpayer, proud of our country, anxious to maintain our place in the world. My religion: Protestant – for all my 71 years. Not pro Sharia Law (but I do know how to spell it).

            My portrayal of Thomas Jefferson: “that from the very beginning of our country, we had people who were visionary, who were religiously tolerant, who believed that knowledge and wisdom could be gleaned from any number of sources, including the Qur’an.”

            No where does that say or even imply that Jefferson was a Muslim. It just says that he practiced religious tolerance. I’m not saying that YOU have to be tolerant of other religions….

          • Mathew Molk

            Truth and integrity is a death sentence when you are surrounded by career politicians.

          • Mathew Molk

            Waite just a minute, Abdoul. If you can convince me that the moslem’s koran and their e-men do not require them to kill or enslave anybody that dose not convert and submit to sheria law I’ll stop objecting to moslens running for office, but until then they have no place in Americia let alone on the ballet.

            Islam is NOT a realign. It’s a filthy philosophy of death and slavery.

          • Righteous Truth

            I’m not here to convince you of anything, Matthew. I was merely responding to Rosech Levy. It is a fact that there is no religious requirement for ANY elected office, as per the wisdom of the Founders. Christians – even Catholics and Baptists, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, and Non-Believers can legally run for office – even President.

            Should those Muslims now serving in the US Congress be stripped of their offices and deported? Is there legal precident to do that?

            How about those Muslims who are part of the ballet? Should they deported?

      • captprozac

        when incumbents have millions and the challenger doesn’t. Big money usually wins

        • Righteous Truth

          Yes, we must get Big Money out of politics – but that has nothing to do with term limits.

          • jim

            R truth, you have blinders on. Of coarse it does. Try thinking it through ! Must you be spoon fed ?

          • Righteous Truth

            Again, no need to be rude, Jim. Just discuss like a grown up.

        • Carolyn Henderson

          Right ! And Serving the people was never meant to be a lucrative, financially enhancing career..

      • Velma Saccone

        As long as we allow welfare recipients, brainwashed students and illegal aliens to vote we will continue to get people like Obama, Pelosi, Feinstein, Reid and other stupid liberals elected. It’s only because we the people were so pissed that Hillary was not elected to continue the destruction of our country. You can’t always depend on the voters that is why we must have term limits.

        • Righteous Truth

          “You can’t always depend on the voters….” WOW – in a mere 7 words you have underscored the very reason we should NEVER have term limits. If you can’t depend on the voters – your fellow Patriotic Americans who take the time, very few times in a lifetime, to go to the Polling Place and thoughtfully cast a vote for the candidate(s) they believe are best qualified for public office…. If you can’t trust the voters, then you must set up some other system that limits the voters’ choices. You must engineer the vote so that your desired effect is brought to fruition. The Communists would be proud of that statement.

        • rsewill

          You left out women.

          • Velma Saccone

            LOL. Some of us women are smart enough to know how to vote.

          • rsewill

            Yup, and those that are smart enough didn’t vote for the puzy grabber. That was the majority of women.

          • Velma Saccone

            I can see you are a Killary supporter. Can’t tell if you are male or female. I would rather have Trump than the queen of lying criminals commonly know as the Benghazi Bitch. I know many women who were smart enough to vote for Trump.

      • sensrbtch

        RIGHT! THANKS!

      • NormWilson

        Too many brainless voters voting for more gimmees. We now have more people voting for a living than we do working for one.

        • Carolyn Henderson

          Amen

      • jim

        You forget HOW much money these people have backing them !! It’s bogus for us, the citizens, but the one with the MOST money is the one that gets the nod in almost all incidents !

        • Motorhead

          Exactly…Money breeds power which breeds corruption! We are tired of people like RT’s…..BS! WE ARE FED UP..AND AWAKE ! God Bless America and the 82nd Airborne,!

        • Righteous Truth

          Yes, Big Money needs to be controlled – but that has nothing to do with term limits!

          • Motorhead

            Huh? That is bull …you are very naive or just outright ignorant ! The longer someone is in power the farther that person is from the common people and closer to the money people …they become corrupted by the very system by looking after their own personal interests “FIRST” instead of the interests of The people they are supposed to represent ! I am not trying to deny anyone the right to vote…
            I can proudly say that I have fought for all Americans right to vote. Term limits does not deprive any one that Right! I’m just do not want to have our representatives sold to the highest higher which is the case now. They follow the money because of needing to get Reelected..reelected….reelected…! There are 100 lobbyist for every Congressman…..look it up….I did! You must have something to profit from your stance. Look around you and see what your fellow citizens say about it…Then …GGF! ……God bless America and the 82nd Airborne

          • Carolyn Henderson

            I don’t want to ‘control’ someone having Big Money. I just don’t want them to have an indefinite time to control or manage MY life to further enhance their own wealth OR influence. Service suggests working for the PEOPLE, not self.

        • Motorhead

          Exactly…nuff said!

      • Motorhead

        Term Limit Law would be the ULTIMATE guarantee of being “EFFECTUAL” ! God bless America and the 82nd Airborne!

        • Righteous Truth

          Do you agree with Velma Saccone (above): “You can’t always depend on the voters?” is that what the 82nd Airborne is all about – fighting for freedom for only tge voters we trust?

          • Motorhead

            You don’t know what fighting for liberty is truly about…go home and kiss your husband ..you..putz!

          • Righteous Truth

            No need to revert to grade school namecalling, Motorhead.

      • mcffoster

        The problem with your thinking Mr. Truth is that “we the people” have had the opportunity to VOTE them out or Drain the Swamp if you will yet we haven’t done any of it in the past 80 years. So term limits will make it happen, even though many voters, without any knowledge whatsoever, will vote for a familiar name on the ballot without ever trying to find out whether that person should be re-elected or not. That’s a fact AND that’s why the incumbents mostly get re-elected.

        It should indicate on every ballot (state, local or federal) should have after their name whether they or an incumbent but that would go over for career politicians like “a fart in church”.

        The next thing that should be changed would be to abolish all indications of a party and then “we the people” would be able to vote for the person that we think would best represent us in Washington instead of voting for a party. Many people would vote for a particular party even if it were the devil running for that position – that’s another FACT.

        • captprozac

          thanks for explaining to the people who think that votes will determine terms. Most people who vote are just doing what their union said or by name recognition. They don’t research.

        • Righteous Truth

          OK – let me see if I understand what you are saying:
          1.) The Voters (i.e., your Patriotic Fellow Americans) haven’t “drained your swamp” effectively for 80 years (I don’t know about that – I am only 71).
          2.) But Term Limits will do the trick
          because our fellow voters “without any knowledge whatsoever” (kind of ELITIST isn’t it?) will vote for a familiar name – and they do that because they are lazy (“without ever trying to find out”)
          3.) Each ballot should indicate whether a candidate is an incumbent or not (because it’s just too difficult to know who your CURRENT elected officials are)
          4.) And even though you freely admit that many (most?) of our Fellow Patriotic Voters are functioning near the IDIOT level (your insinuation, not mine), we should eliminate party affliation so that “we, the people” (as limted as they are) can “vote for the people we think could best represent us”

          Are you kidding me? Do you seriously agree with what you are saying? WOW!!

          I agree with you lobbyist comments – except for those lobbyists that are fighting for MY stuff – like Social Security and Medicare.

          And THAT, mcffoster, is the Righteous Truth!!

          • Carolyn Henderson

            I can vote for my own (stuff) Social Security & Medicare.

          • Motorhead

            Me too…!

          • Righteous Truth

            No, actually, Carolyn Henderson, you can’t vote for Social Security and Medicare. Congress does and the President signs the bill they pass.

          • Motorhead

            You are a ignorant, self absorbed ass!

          • jim

            R Truth, he NEVER said idiot, that’s your take on his message. You know that there are people that voted for barry soetero simply because of skin color and for clinton because she’s a woman. You certainly know that many, many voters vote for their local boy or gal, no matter what and they usually are the ones with the huge war chest. Hmmmm, why is that, could it be contacts made, lobbyists and/or Arab funders. How much money do you suppose lobbyists would GIVE if there was no chance for a third term. There will ALWAYS be deceivers that will try to “sneak under the fence” but term limits would be a good start to help clean the swamp. What the heck do you have against it? Our Constitution allows for amendments and a convention of states

          • Righteous Truth

            You are correct, Jim, the Commenteer did not use the term “idiot” He said, “Without any knowledge whatsoever.” I’m struggling to find a perceptual difference in the two characterizationS. Care to clarify for me?

        • Motorhead

          Agree!

      • Mayor11

        The problem is that idiots like Pelosi and the other witches from CA get re-elected over and over because they bring home the bacon. Need to clean them out. The residents of their districts won’t.

        • Carolyn Henderson

          No, because they are bringing home the bacon, and we are paying for it. It has been broadcast abroad,Hey. jump the wire into USA and you can live FREE forever. The more family you have ,or produce, the more you can draw.

      • Carolyn Henderson

        But they are bought and sold for welfare and free living “gimmies “

      • Cheryl Detar

        We are speaking of SC justices, here, They are NOT voted in.

        • Righteous Truth

          Really? Did you read the article? “If passed, the amendment would hold House representatives to three two-year terms and senators to two six-year terms. The proposal matches a similar promise made by President-elect Donald Trump in the closing weeks of his campaign and is currently supported by several Republican senators, including Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson.”
          I think you can do better than that, Cheryl Detar!

      • Mathew Molk

        YES! Especially with the buy a vote and dead an illegal alien voters.

        Also, how can an honest person ever get elected when Soros and his ilk give 100 million to your opponent?

        With your illogic why are term limits good for the president but not for the congress?

        • Righteous Truth

          Where did I say that term limits are good for the Presidency?

          My point is pretty simply, Matthew Molk: If the voters were doing their jobs, it doesn’t matter what Soros or the Koch Brothers or Sheldon Adelson doing. The point is WE AS VOTERS ARE FAILING MISERABLY at electing good people. Term limits are an artificial, lazyman’s way of enacting election reform.

    • ernldo

      As for retirement and health care, congresspeople should be FORCED into the same programs they push on us, and nothing more….

      • Rosech Levy

        For us it a given that they live like we do and “enjoy?” the same benefits(?) we do and realize they are there to represent US and not THEMSELVES!

        • jim

          Lobbyism has allowed for so much deceitful and criminal activity. It needs to be desolved!

          • John

            And Lobbyism is the reason drug costs have skyrocketed. Indeed, Affordable Care Act, what a total laugh!! What a cash cow for the insurance companies and the drug companies!!

          • Laddyboy

            Case in point: Pre-change – my two medications cost about @$2.50, After change – my two medications cost @$25.00.

          • alegalcitizen

            Actually it was a cash cow for the HOSPITALS, not the insurance companies, OR they wouldn’t be leaving like a dog with a dose of flea medicine.

          • John

            I am sure the big hospitals have profited also…and there are probably others….sure as hell NOTHING in that law that seeks to reduce the price of medical care. EVERY time I see a pill ad on TV I think about sick people having to pay for that damn advertising. WHY is that not illegal? AND the pharmaceutical companies aren’t even making most of those pills in the USA but importing them from third world countries for even MORE profit. Then they have the gall to tell us we need to get our pills HERE because of safety! What a crock.

          • alegalcitizen

            Our Son Is the head actuary for the big bad Ins. industry, he said it would be a disaster from the beginning.
            We live in South Texas in the winter so go over the border for some of our meds.
            I get my whole year of Ometherzol (sp), (Prilosec OTC) for $12.00, 360 capsules for 12.00/ in the stores it is usually 15.88 for 42 of them. It is ridiculous what they charge for this stuff, and that is the generic (so is the Mexican one). One of my friends uses the red inhalers made in the UK, it is 90.00 in the US for one until he meets his threshold in medicare, it’s 30 for 2 of them in Mexico, SAME company.

            Most of my meds. are made in other countries also, they are all generic, but NOT made in the U.S.

      • BornAgainSouthernPride

        Its a temp job, no retirement! Seriously. What did they think they were going to get? A civil service retirement after a few short years. And definately, only the standard health care for other civil servants. No checking account slush funds, no all expense paid vacations.

        • Richard Pope

          I believe that once the total bill comes in on what taxpayers had to pay for barrackie the muslim’s vacations the amount will be close to 100 million. Add in a few more hundreds of millions for his trips around the world to lie to and insult our allies while making nice to our enemies. The total bill for just him could be North of half a billion dollars. This is sick. And he thought that if he had run for a third term he would have won.
          GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
          rich!

          • Paula

            The “Queen of England ” flys British Airways when flying on States visits, like Russia.
            What is so special about those questionable goons in the White House? It’s about time we put the brakes on ALL Government robbers!

          • AKLady2015

            Jealous?
            Maybe you should have studied more and qualified for a better job.
            The Queen serves here country.
            I served ours.
            It has perks, just ask any military family.

          • Paula

            AKLady2015 Jealous? NO! I have worked hard all my live for what I have. NOBODY gave me anything!
            As far as my education, I probably can stand up to you anytime. My knowledge gave me a career that has taken me all over the world and I also speak 5 Languages fluently!
            With you ranting about everybody else’s opinion, you are certainly NO Lady.
            You sound like a real Socialist Femminazi! Also you need to learn how SPELL!

          • AKLady2015

            Save your childish insults for someone you can impress.
            I am dyslexic, I’ve hears them all before, I’ll hear them again — there are a lot of ignorant people in this world.

          • edw_jr

            Question: If ignorance really is bliss, why are all these ignoramuses so miserable?? It’s as though they aren’t happy unless they are dissing somebody.

          • skipsart

            Don;t waste your time arguing with this troll.

          • pineapple

            I blocked the bitch and have lived happily ever after.

          • skipsart

            We all should do just that.

          • Viragowitch

            I blocked the ignorant bitch also. I’m not going to deal with such stupidity. Thanks for pointing out the block capability.

          • AKLady2015

            They are not happy unless they are insulting people.
            They feel a need to bring people down to their level.

          • skipsart

            You’ve hears ?……LOL !!! Troll !

          • db

            I don’t see that she insulted you, she was merely making a point of your ignorance as well as your spelling. If you are dyslexic and it affects your spelling, you should have Spell Check. No excuses.

          • Barkingdeathsquirrel

            ak even got that backwards and got a Czech to spell.

          • John Doe

            It’s funny to read your post, as I’ve mentioned this many times before. She blames it on being dyslexic and other things, geez, if she were truly a doctor or a nurse or many of the other things she’s claimed to have been, I wouldn’t want a dyslexic writing a prescription. And it’s not just her lack of spelling skills, but her grammar as well, but according to her, she’s supposedly a PhD. HAH

          • AKLady2015

            Maybe you should learn more about Dyslexia instead of making a fool of yourself.

          • pineapple

            We know what her BS degree stands for.

            Her PhD stands for “Piled Higher and Deeper

          • AKLady2015

            You obviously know absolutely nothing about dyslexia.

          • AKLady2015

            Tell it to these men, they were also bad spellers: Benjamin Franklin, Alfred Mosher Butts,William Faulkner, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, John Keats, John Irving, Jane Austen, Albert Einstein, Winston Churchill ,John F. Kennedy Jr

          • sensrbtch

            n tuiat r u ? a english major?! screw spelchk, it alls sounds just lick the out going prez obolahniks! glad they are being evicted, the TSA needs to be there to chk for toilet paper,silverwear, and the linens! YANA HOO!

          • John Doe

            DB, you are the same exact type of liberal idiodic liberal as AKlady. Go take some vitamin B-12. Try and reduce your blood pressure before you head explodes.

          • Retired

            AK , one thing is for sure you are not impressing anyone with your lies.

          • John Doe

            She can only humiliate herself. Unfortunately, she’s too far frickin clueless to understand what an idiot she is.

          • edw_jr

            Is it PMS?? Or are you just naturally bitchy??

          • db

            Your ignorance is showing! You should think before you speak! It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize the game plays, but a little different when you are on the field, taking the hits! DUH

          • Mathew Molk

            Paula, don’t talk to AK.

            It has variously claimed to be a Vietnam Combat veteran, A teamster, a collage professor, and lied about a bunch o other things.

            All lies, no truth and 100% Horse crap.

            Block like a lot o the others here have done.

          • Retired

            You left out she claims to be a Md. = mass destruction.

          • Jillhmorgan

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          • Bob Marcum

            Right-On;;; 100%

          • Richard Daugherty

            Did she learn fro Obama??

          • Richard Daugherty

            I like AK!! You must forgive her. She tends to lose it every once in a while.

          • Richard Daugherty

            That would be AK!! A Femminazi!! Luv it!!

          • Michael Dennewitz

            You’re entertaining a troll!😣

          • John Doe

            Michael, I would change that to the fact that she’s the entertaining troll, showing her sheer ignorance and hypocrasy , just as most liberals.

          • AKLady2015

            Are you post from jail?

          • Retired

            AK is nothing but a Democrat sore loser troll.

          • Susan Short

            If you’ve not been exposed before to that lunatic, AK Lady, she is a real trip of insanity! She thinks that she is smart, and she loves to try to talk down to people, as she did to you, but she is clueless! She says that she served her country! I’d sure like to know just what her “service” was, but I’m not about to ask her! Maybe she served as a crossing guard for elementary school students, but I’m not sure that she’s even smart enough to do that job!

          • sensrbtch

            mabes she is a member of the REDMAN group?!

          • John Doe

            I would think if she ever served in the military, it would have been for latrine duty, I don’t think she’s capable of any other position.

          • theseer

            AK IS A BRAINLESS LIBERAL LOW CLASS NEGRA….IGNORE HER.

          • Viragowitch

            Possibly served as camp prostitute.

          • John Doe

            Paula, you certainly got that right. AKlady is no lady, she’s claimed to be everything from a nurse serving in Vietnam to Pakistan and many other things besides being a PhD. She truly needs to be put in a padded room, and quit her rantings. She would be of much more service if she just shut her mouth and keep her socialist views to herself. She even thinks that Saul Alinsky was a good guy.

          • MASTERMECH

            I was in Nam, got a COMBAT ACTION medal, Gold COMBAT “V” and a few Gold Stars to mount on it. Viet Nam Honor Medal and a few others. Female “Combat Veteran” Nurse!, What forward post was she at? BS! AKlady, Combat Bull Shitter.

          • sensrbtch

            mabe she was taking LESSONS FROM JOHNNIE KERRY! happy new year, U,S,A,F., 66-70, medic. glad u r stil kickin bro.

          • John Doe

            I tip my hat off for you for you service to out country. AK lady, if she ever served has most likely only served on latrine duty. She’s as full of s–t that I’ve ever heard, that’s why I blocked her, she’s a troll that lives underneath a bridge.

          • David in MA

            burn pit.

          • sensrbtch

            so ak is a false news/info person?

          • AKLady2015

            Touchy. touchy.
            Unless you have done two tours in a Combat Hospital,
            your education will never match mine.
            Dyslexia presents in a number of ways.

            Feel free to insult.
            You are not the first. You won’t be the last
            Oh, and you are certainly no lady.

          • skipsart

            You don’t serve shit and never will…….TROLL !!!

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          • db

            The point is, the QOE is not taking advantage of the People, but our so called representatives are! yOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND AGAINST THEIR TAKING ADVANTAGE WHILE YOU CAN’T GET ANY HELP FROM THE VA! And, they do NOTHING to help YOU! THAT is the POINT!

          • Richard Daugherty

            Problem is AK!! they have far too many perks!! They will now have to be reeled in.

          • Retired

            AK lives off those perks as well.

          • AKLady2015

            Your assumptions are wrong, as usual.
            Large employers give their employees the same benefits as the U.S. Government. Some large employer are actually more generous.
            .
            Maybe you should have picked a better company to work for.

          • Richard Daugherty

            AK!! you are like my 15 year old son!! Always right!!

          • AKLady2015

            I look up the facts.
            If that is what your son does, then he is a very intelligent young man.
            If that was intended to be an insult, you failed, miserably.
            Yu have an Internet connection, maybe you should look up facts.

          • Retired

            That is why you are a Democrat . Democrats are anti military. How did you like all those big raises you got under Obama 0+0 =0 .

          • John Doe

            Retired, you must have forgotten the fact that even liberals can’t understand such a tough math equation of 0+0=0…… That’s a little to complicated for them.

          • AKLady2015

            I served two tours at combat hospital’s in Vietnam.
            I buried two husbands at Arlington, KIA Vietnam.
            Two of our children are currently serving on active duty in Afghanistan.
            They never got to know their fathers.
            .
            Patriotic Americans don’t push for raises when their nation is so far in debt.

          • rivahmitch

            As you’ll recall from other discussions, I, too, served ours. But… it remains a fact that Congressional benefits are way out of line with those of their constituents and/or anything reasonable. (and that overlooks the reality that many of them become millionairres by using “inside information which would put corporate “insiders in jail.) I’d give them no more than regular civil service pensions. Likewise they should receive civil service health care and life insurance. They’re public employees, not “lords”. The Pres is a different cat. Perhaps MINIMAL staff support and lifetime security (much as I despise most of those still living) but… full salary for life after four or eight years of service? No way. These special benefits which they’ve given themselves is why there exists a Washington cabal removed from and only minimally concerned with the citizens they impact.

          • AKLady2015

            Congress does not receive “full salary for life”. Members of Congress do not receive free health care while in office or upon retirement.

            Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at the age of 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary

            That means that members of the House of Representatives β€” who are up for reelection every two years β€” would not be able to collect pensions of any amount if they only served one term. U.S. senators, on the other hand, serve six-year terms and would be able to collect pensions after one full term. But the pensions wouldn’t be equal to their full salaries.

          • rivahmitch

            Thanks for the clarifications. I don’t believe I mentioned “free” health care but do recall that they and their employees (as opposed to regular civil servants) have received special exemptions under “Obamacare”. I was clearly mistaken about the retirement pay. The “inside trader info remains correct, however, and I still believe they should receive only regular civil service retirement and benefits.

          • AKLady2015

            Maybe you should have checked Civil Service Retirement, Congress follows that system’s rules. As of January 1, 2014, Members and designated congressional staff were no longer able to purchase Federal Employee Health Benefit plans as active employees;

          • rivahmitch

            I know they used to but… Civil servants do not receive retirement after 6 years of service unless they rules have changed dramatically. Of course, I’m under the old CSRS program where for the 1st 19+years (until I became “vested”) I could only get what I put in and a handshake. Then, when FERS 1 came along, in the 80s (a benefit to those youngsters wishing to be “mobile”) things changed and with the two major changes since I’m sure it’s further modified. Us old folks just don’t keep up as well (nor to be hones, do I bother to track retirement changes that don’t directly effect me).

          • AKLady2015

            Civil Service receives retirement that reflects the number of years employed and their salary. FERS retirement eligibility is determined by age and number of years of creditable service. https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fers-information/eligibility/

          • rivahmitch

            Yes. CSRS was/is (for the few of us older folks still on it) a defined benefit plan. Because it was a standalone, we are hit with the “public pension offset” for anything we receive from social security for our “outside employment”. (Having has several businesses of my own, that hurts). FERS OTOH, has a Social Security component and a defined contribution plan (a sort 401K equivalent) . Not sure about the details as (being a local NARFE officer) it doesn’t impact myself or any of out members (I’m among our youngest at 70).

          • AKLady2015

            Double dipping is the word you were wanting.

          • rivahmitch

            Not sure where the Double dipping reference comes from. People who pay for something should receive that for which they pay:

            If you mean FERS employees, they pay for both and should collect on both.

            If, otoh, you’re referring to myself, I put in a lot of years of 18+ hour days (only 8-9 of which were for the government). Some years I made more outside than inside and paid for it in both income taxes and SS. Had I been slick, I could legally have listed all, rather than half, of that joint income to my spouse and we’d be sitting better now. Instead, I played it straight, to our my current financial detriment.

          • AKLady2015

            Double dipping is what the practice labeled,
            No one comes anywhere near to paying in a sufficient amount of taxes to cover what they take out. Taking from two programs is simply not justified.

          • rivahmitch

            Then neither is being charged for two.

          • Ellen

            And the politicians in our country are supposed to serve our country too but they want to be treated like royalty. The bas-rds.

          • Ellen

            AK. Are you a gun or something stone like in the head?

          • AKLady2015

            Is that supposed to be an insult?

          • hum4me

            I served as well, and I have been robbed by the goons that run the VA, they give full 100% to people that dont deserve it, and refuse to up some of our points irregardless of how bad it hurts us, The VA is corrupt just like the rest of the Government

          • mholdcraft

            A Perk is an advantage or something extra, such as money or goods, that you are given because of your job. The real Perks in Military Service are the camaraderie we have while serving as a part of a real team and doing it for the benefit of our Nation. Perks?? I would say I spent 31 years on active duty to earn what I get
            and I would not describe any of it as perks. Those benefits are earned.

          • AKLady2015

            I buried two at Arlington, KIA Vietnam —
            one of the perks of federal employment, a free cemetery plot.
            Congress has no more, no less benefits than any other federal employee.

          • gunner48

            yeah ask them about uprooting your children every 2-4 years, living from payday to payday. If your lucky. Long Family separations . Unaccompanied tours for two years at a time. And everytime you turn around someone looking to cut your money,retirement, and pukes like McCaine, that forgot where he came from and hasnt done crap for the Veterans. While we stand in line at the VA like a bunch of welfare recipients. And that many E5 and below servicemen with two-three kids are on Food Stamps. Those perks are great if you live long enough and make a paygrade high enough to enjoy them. Or some SOB doesnt take them away from you. The all volunteer force is a great concept patriotism is at it peak. We had more respect coming back from Vietnam. Civilians today are OK as long as their kids dont have to go.Or themselves Hell we cant even find a Presidential Candidate that has servicetime. Never mind made it a career.

          • AKLady2015

            Every 2 to 4 years, actually, sometimes it was closer to 18 months

            Unaccompanied tours? The last time I married, we were separated 18 of the first 24 months. Thankfully, neither of us were killed in a war zone.

            I can remember when, with the housing allowance, total take home pay was less than $300 a month.

            During the Vietnam War, our troops were spilt on. I know, as I was one of them.

          • Pete Dillon

            Yes dolt, lots of military families qualify for food stamps. Great perks.

          • AKLady2015

            Name calling,
            So childish.

          • Viragowitch

            Just ask any military family??? I was raised an Air Force brat. We did not get “perks”. My father had to pay to move us, he got $25.00 a day to move himself from one base to another and nothing to move his family. We got medical care faster at that time than I get now in the civilian realm, true, and we didn’t get huge bills to pay like I get now, but the care was the same as I get now just given at base hospitals (not Walter Reed medical center like the prez and congress gets). No dental care for dependents. No eye care for dependents. We paid our own utilities when living in base housing, nothing was free nor was it paid by the taxpayers. My father paid taxes just like everyone else while being paid less than half of the salary his civilian counterpart would be paid. Unless things have drastically changed since he retired after 30 years in service, I don’t see your “perks”.

          • AKLady2015

            Ha, ha, ha, ha.

            The following applies to Rank E-4 with over 5 years and E-5 and above.
            http://www.military.com/benefits
            Much of what you claim in your post is not current. has not been correct for at least 50 years.

          • Viragowitch

            Not so. My father was a full bird at retirement, which was 25 years ago, NOT 50. You really are a troll. You’ll notice the highest pay listed at that site is MONTHLY 4K with over 20 years service. Now take taxes etc. out and take home pay sucks. Most people make more than that without 30 years service. And that shows today’s pay rates, go back 20 years. When he retired from the AF he got a civilian job that paid him almost 3 times as much as his military salary was doing basically the same thing for a defense contractor.

          • AKLady2015

            I was born to military parents. raised military, married military and I currently have two children serving in Afghanistan.
            That defense contractor pay did not include room and board and free medical care for the entire family.

          • hum4me

            yes, about half of the goons in washington just plain need to be ousted, like guantanamo,lol

          • Bella Gray

            The difference is the Queen of England is now a figure head with no Parlimentary powers. While the POTUS does have executive power.

          • Pam

            I understand the security issues, but I agree that it should not be abused by any president. The plane is not ordinary it is designed to protect the president if hostilities break out and he needs to be evacuated. They are due a vacation in 4 years of isolation. The Obama’s didn’t abuse the privilege they tortured ,raped and murdered it.

          • David in MA

            and, what about those who fly military flights, like Pelosi, do they pay? I doubt it, but the law says they must.

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you lie?
            Obama would have won a third term, easily.
            Your man will probably not finish a year before being impeached.

          • freethinker4

            Explain how and what Obama did for this country? Explain to all of us?

          • AKLady2015

            Apparently, you have not been paying attention to what has gone on around you. Here is a short list of Obama accomplishments:

            1. Passed Health Care Reform
            2. Passed the Stimulus
            3. Passed Wall Street Reform
            4. Ended the War in Iraq
            5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan
            6. Eliminated Osama bin laden
            7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry
            8. Recapitalized Banks
            9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
            10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi
            11. Told Mubarak to Go:
            12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies
            13. Improved America’s Image Abroad+
            14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending
            15. Created Race to the Top
            16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards
            17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis
            18. Passed Mini Stimuli
            19. Began Asia “Pivot”
            20. Increased Support for Veterans
            21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran
            22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants
            23. Passed Credit Card Reforms
            24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws
            25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court
            26. Improved Food Safety System
            27. Achieved New START Treaty: Signed with Russia and won ratification in Congress
            28. Expanded National Service
            29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection
            30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco
            31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders
            32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act
            33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense
            34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown
            35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission
            36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology
            37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests
            38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges
            39. Improved School Nutrition
            40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections
            41. Avoided Scandal
            42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill
            43. Created Recovery.gov
            44. Pushed Broadband Coverage
            45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children
            46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide
            47. Expanded Stem Cell Research
            48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers
            49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence
            50. Killed the F-22

          • PJ London

            Sorry, but that is what he did ‘to’ the country, the question was what did he do ‘for’ the country.

          • skipsart

            The troll, AK Idiot is not prepared to answer any questions.

          • Pirate Sword

            Oh she can and will answer, just not intelligently. She sure tries though so I gotta give credit for trying. Plus, there’s the entertainment she provides us with….like a 3 wheeled wagon.

          • jimmy midnight

            Gullible is as gullible does.

          • freethinker4

            1 Drove cost up hurt middle class and mall business while adding unneeded bureaucracy
            2 Stimulus well his poor leadership and judgment of the peoples needs like securing decent paying jobs? while he tried to destroy our manufacturing for service economy jobs to reduce our carbon output? squandered money spent to the tune of 9 Trillion and he still is pushing TPP
            3 Again no more regulations and no convictions
            4&5 Screwed the pooch lives lost for nothing but more lives lost trying to control the void left that the radicals ceased upon the start of ISIS
            6 Our special forces did that? thats like saying bush killed most of bin ladens generals
            7 Bail out started by Bush
            8 Again no more regulations and no convictions
            9 Bad I don’t care what you are keep it to your sick self (I don’t brag about being a heterosexual)
            10 did nothing
            11 did nothing
            12 no sympathy there for murders but Obama is a muslim
            13 Totally destroyed our Image Sided with muslims over Christians 90,000 killed last year by radical muslims
            14 I Good but don’t no exactly how much good was done there the needs to be jobs
            15 He spent over 1 Billion of tax payer dollars for vacations I can say the rest he did shit nothing or caused more problems, he fueled racism, turned his back on a staunch Allie, forced special gay rights by forcing people to accept them or pay, sold murdered baby parts, attempted to bankrupt the dumb people with his push of green energy which I am for but in a intelligent manner? his plan would have drove prices for electricity 300% or more? Pushed for green energy co. solindra billions lost for nothing,Tried to kill the Constitutional form of government by his liberal criminal judges which they should be and will be impeached for treason?
            My God I don’t even want to go on telling you his monumental failures He was trying to bankrupt this country? Failure and stupidity is his Legacy
            All I can say looking at your list is wow that Idiot did 2 or 3 good things for 47-48 bullshit to failures but also moral failures your list shows how bad this guy really was taking credit for things he didn’t do or claims of greatness.

          • John

            Most of the items AKLady cited I didn’t want in the first place! As far as his energy policy, he simply squandered our money and accomplished absolutely nothing. He bought into the “mankind is causing global warming” crap and squandered more money on that…what a muslim POS!

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you lie?

          • edw_jr

            They don’t purposely lie AK; they’re just too stupid to know the difference. Unlike Mr. Trump, who you know is lying if his lips are moving! LOL.

          • John

            JUST EXACTLY like your buddy the fraud Obama only on a much less grand scale. Obama couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it!

          • AKLady2015

            Good one. The Republicans have been very good at lying. I feel very confident that Trump will make Bush’s record look like child’s play.

          • skipsart

            Why do you troll? You lost ………….LOL !!!

          • John

            Why are you so gullible?

          • alegalcitizen

            WHY do you keep repeating “why do you lie”?

          • AKLady2015

            Could it be because people keep lying?

          • freethinker4

            Sad but true? They worship SATAN

          • AKLady2015

            Pease take a Civics or American Government class.
            Congress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            You elect Congress.

          • edw_jr

            I don’t think he elects anybody AK. When you write the way Thinker does, you are too stupid to vote. His final sentence is a true testament to his lack of formal education!!

          • Mathew Molk

            Illiteracy is PROOF of a formal education if you are talking about the last 30 years. They can’t een read their diplomas..,and I’m talking about collage.

          • AKLady2015

            I was trying very hard to be kind, as well as factual.
            Insulting the ignorant does not encourage them to educate themselves.

          • skipsart

            Troll, You are bought and paid for.

          • AKLady2015

            Typical: No facts, just insults.

          • freethinker4

            Tell that to Obama with his executive orders? We can’t default on our obligations so yes both party’s piss money away? We have got to get rid of policies or agencies that don’t produce a positive effect for the people and become lean government wise we can no longer support a government that is larger in employment than our industry 2.8 million gov. jobs

          • AKLady2015

            Those 2.8 million jobs is the “boost” that Saint Reagan provided the economy.

          • freethinker4

            Do you realize the core policies of Reagan and now President elect Trump are very much the same as JFK’s?

            As you ignorantly boast about facts which are nothing more than propaganda you take as facts shows you stupidity. Do you believe our military should have the best equipment apparently not?
            Did you know that the F-22 Raptor in actual simulated air combat went up against five F-15’s and shot them down? to put this in perspective we have never lost a F-15 in actual combat? and you brag Obama cut the project sad.

            Last night on the world news Scott Pelley reported our unemployment rate is 4.2% do you believe that? common sense should tell you something is not right?

          • AKLady2015

            Yes, and it scares me to death,
            Where will the money come from?
            Reagan started a war and put thousands on thru government payroll.
            Bush sold America to China for his two wars.
            We do not need the F-22,
            we cannot afford the F-22, you refuse to pay for it.
            .
            My common sense say the unemployment numbers are correct.

          • freethinker4

            With record numbers of people on welfare and assistance or just plain gave up your nuts?
            And Bill Clinton followed by Obama sold this country to China not Bush the do nothing president. Obama flat out said industry is gone or doing deal with it Trump can’t bring it back you need new skills? He still was pushing for the TPP free trade agreement two weeks ago. Is this a man that is working for middle class America NOT HARDLY.

          • AKLady2015

            Congress passed laws permitting companies to take their jobs off shore and bring their product into the US duty free.
            You elect Congress.
            You buy those products.
            .
            Why can’t you take responsibility for your actions?
            You put those people on welfare.
            You put those people on food stamps, which by the way is welfare for farmers.

          • freethinker4

            Milton Friedman – a libertarian party economist stated Bill Clinton was the greatest Republican President he could remember in a long time!, you can watch the video on the web as he was a pro open trade thinker.
            Right now the latest poll 85% of republicans are against free trade 54% democrats are for it.? Other polls I have seen democrats are more for free trade while republicans percentages against are higher
            As you stated congress passes law simple majority in both houses in most cases but the President can veto or sign into law, if he veto’s a bill it takes two thirds majority to override the veto? President’s Clinton at his time and Obama now still is for free trade. as both party’s now have moved away from supporting free trade. If Clinton veto’ed the trade deals it wouldn’t have passed? Bill Clinton was the architect of the bill and yes he was more successful at persuading the republicans than his own party but it’s all him?
            Below is a link from the New York Times read that?
            http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/25/world/the-china-trade-vote-rounding-out-a-clear-clinton-legacy.html
            After you read this you will realize I know what is going on in our government who the players are I watch and listen? The sad thing is I new it wasn’t good and now we may have to defend ourselves someday from a country that we built. There aggression has been evident for years now.
            As for farmers welfare think again it’s subsidized to keep affordable, did you realize they get the same + or – for a bushel of product as they did in the late 60’s check it out?
            And I’m tired of the democrats claiming the republican party is racist or bigot’s look at history that say’s it all Jim crow, segregation, KKK all democrat’s fact. And yes I agree the Republicans defend marriage is between a man and a woman and that your born the sex you are?, that life begins at conception? that’s natures law. We fight to defend rights constitutional rights and freedoms and what’s fundamentally right in humanity. Morals whether God influenced or natures law? must be protected or chaos ensues in every aspect of humanity as we are seeing that now where wrongs are now right young minds are being twisted and corrupted for what benefit of humanity none. The LGBT community will degrade humanity into destruction of all, for social acceptance of a natural wrong and they know it.

          • AKLady2015

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

            Medicaid is a Dept. of Health & Social Services Program.
            Supplemental Security Income (SSI) DHSS program
            Child Nutrition is a Department of Agriculture Program (i.e. welfare for farmers).
            Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) is a Dept of Agriculture program. (i.e. welfare for farmers).

          • freethinker4

            All democrats can think of is tax tax tax and some more tax regulate regulate regulate and some more we the people and Industry don’t need or can handle it anymore. Everything government imposes on industry or small business is passed on to the consumer only an Idiot would think otherwise? I also know a few farmers they say screw the subsidies let the market drive the cost but government can never leave things alone they have to have there tenticials in every facet of our lives controlling everything.
            Your the typical demorat def dumb and blind

          • AKLady2015

            Republicans only want to spend, spend, spend …
            The last Bush Administration increased the national debt by 101%
            Saint Reagan increased it by 288%.

          • freethinker4

            And Obama spent more than both of them nearly 10 Trillion. Failed at a actual real economic recovery. More people on assistance or welfare than in our country’s history. More people living at or below poverty level in our country’s history. Promoted racism and bigotry toward whites and Christianity. THE MOST Anti-American President in history. I know I missed a million other failures but why bother you won’t learn?
            The sad thing is I didn’t vote for him and still gave him the benefit of doubt that he may be a great President? I wanted and hoped he would succeed? I’m not a party hardliner I’m an American

          • AKLady2015

            Congress spends the money.
            You elect Congress.

          • freethinker4

            Excuses? Obama was leading the country in the wrong direction. He was more worried about gay rights and transgender bathrooms and promoting gender choice to children, than people struggling in a poor economy

          • alegalcitizen

            Did you forget Obama’s pen and phone? So where was the “law” congress passed for DACA??? oh, there was none, you mean he did it all by himself after repeatedly saying he couldn’t???

          • AKLady2015

            Please take a Civics or American Government class.

          • alegalcitizen

            You are a dunce. Even a judge said he couldn’t do DACA, it was not voted on, so if what you claim above is even remotely true, why would any President need Congress???

            You are terribly confused.

          • AKLady2015

            What I “wrote” above is a copy and paste from the U.S. Constitution.
            The President does not NEED Congress’ permission to exercise the rights granted to him by the U.S. Constitution.
            After Mitch McConnell’s threats, why would Obama even offer Congress that courtesy?

          • edw_jr

            They truly can’t see it Lady. Their heads are so far up Trump’s butt that they don’t even know what day it is!! Plus, their total lack of education and common sense also clouds their vision immensely. One might say they are severely handicapped by their own stupidity, which makes explaining anything to them utterly impossible. But I do applaud you for trying. Keep up the good work; you are not alone.

          • Mathew Molk

            MAn are you ever a totally indoctrinated communist useful idiot troll. You completely lack the talent to logically process facts.

            Never mind all the Unamemrican and detrimental things that the royal exalted boma did TO the country. President Trump has done more FOR the country since election day then berry did in his entire parasitic life,,,,but what would you expect from a “community organizer” AKA “Agitator.

          • alegalcitizen

            Unfortunately she is NOT alone, there are a bunch of you lunatick’s out there, I purposely misspelled lunatick’s, because you do know that “ticks” are blood suckers correct?

          • skipsart

            Absolute bullshit …..troll……….!!!!

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you for documenting your ignorance before the world. Each of those 50 items took place during Obama’s Administration, over his signature.

          • jimmy midnight

            And U forgot the Iran deal. And it’s a real achievement, not the giveaway that gullible folks R convinced it is.

          • Mathew Molk

            Giving up nuclear weapons to a sworn enemy is an achievement? If you want to convert to a moslem and submit to shera law it is. But that is what berry and his followers have always wanted.

          • jimmy midnight

            With over 60 milllion Trump voters among our citizenry, every day we don’t go 2 war is an achievement .

            It IS possible 2 C Islam as a political philosophy. Looking at Christianity and Judaism through that sort of lens, would, objectively, lead 2 the same conclusion about them,.

            With their absolute certainties about everything, these “Abrahamic” faith traditions R the ultimate source of all our current problems. So, no, I don’t wanna covert 2 Islam.

          • alegalcitizen

            Are you saying we aren’t at war now??? What’s all that bs going on over in those “religion of peace” countries??? What are the drones?

          • jimmy midnight

            Of course we’re at war. And of course, in my 73-year lifetime, we’ve always been at war. But we’re less at war, as opposed to more at war. Gotta grab 4 the solace anywhere U can find it.

            Pro-protestations 2 the contrary notwithstanding, ain’t none of these faith traditions a religion of peace. It’s almost 2 obvious 2 bother with pointing out.

          • alegalcitizen

            So you’re saying the Christians, and other religions are killing others like the Muslims are?
            I’m also 73 years old, I’ve SEEN how our returning men and women were treated after the Vietnam war, and it wasn’t pretty.
            What ‘solace” are you talking about? Obama withdrawing our troops made the matter worse in the middle east, absolutely disgusting.

          • jimmy midnight

            Christians R doing less killing right now, but if their circumstances were more like what Muslims R experiencing, they’d B killing at a similar rate.

            In Israel, Jewish people R “up against it,” and becoming murderous as a result.

            All I’ve ever said 2 people who participated in, “That crazy Asian war.” was about what a shame it was for the leaders of this country to send U fellas on a “fool’s errand.” Forty or fifty years ago, I thought U should have known better, but by now I’ve long understood that U weren’t in a place where knowing better was actually possible.

            Honestly now, did YOU…PERSONALLY…., ever suffer any even verbal abuse at the hands of war opponents? I kinda think this notion has grown out of MAYBE one actual incident, and now millions, dozens of millions, think it was happening in multiple places every day.

            I never saw any on it, but admit I had moved 2 a rural area by 1971.

          • alegalcitizen

            I’m NOT a fella, I’m a woman, but some of my MALE friends experienced some of the BS going on Guess you didn’t know Kennedy was the one that sent them on that fools errand, and Johnson really upped it, congress tried running the war, and in case you didn’t know most were drafted, of course they could have been wussies and ran to Canada, is that the rural area you are talking about?
            I don’t think the troop withdrawals were positive, should have listened to his military, but when you think you know it all, in some cases you don’t. ISIS grew big time out of that withdrawal.

            So you’re saying the Jewish people are going into another country and killing people, is that what you are inferring? They retaliate when the Palentinians start something, I don’t see the Jews “starting” it, it’s always the Arabs that do that.

            So in your opinion when you say Christians are doing less killing right now, where are the Christians doing any killing except when they are attacked?

          • jimmy midnight

            I know all about Kennedy and Johnson’s Vietnam escalations. If Truman didn

          • alegalcitizen

            If Truman didn’t WHAT?

          • jimmy midnight

            Send a, thought at the time 2 B token, deployment of special forces “advisers” 2 Vietnam, of course. Maybe I’ll google it later. Or maybe U should.

          • jimmy midnight

            I know all about Kennedy and Johnson’s Vietnam escalations. If Truman didn’t send the first American deployments over there, Ike certainly did. Every one of them was an imperialist dink 4 doing so.

            4 those of us sufficiently determined to escape them, there R always ways around wars. It’s arguable that Jewish people R, as we speak, going into another country (Palestine) and killing people there.

            ISIS was born outta the moment when Bush 43 disbanded Saddam Hussein’s army. U really shouldn’t B turning a blind eye 2 the Christian nationalism that’s rampant, though not yet compulsory in our military right now.

          • alegalcitizen

            Hmm you make it sound as if you are NOT a Christian, one of those un-believers then? This country was found on a Christian/Judeo foundation, if you don’t like it, I hear Venzuela calling your name.

          • jimmy midnight

            I am a christian, a red-letter christian, but with a lower-case c. U can’t call me faithless, since I acknowledge and revere a minimum of fifteen thousand deities 2 your 1.

            American religious freedom tradition necessarily includes freedom from religion, something about which R founders were quite clear. Our foundation is determinedly secular. These protestations about “Judeo-Christian” R pretty offensive 2 people who actually know some of the History around American anti-Semitism.

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you for pointing that out. I probably missed others. Like I said, it was a “short list”.

          • Glenn Newton

            Here is a Complete “MORON”!!!!!

          • AKLady2015

            Thank you for admitting it.

          • Rob D

            What a bunch of bullshit. Go post on a LibTard board where they spin fairy tales.

          • AKLady2015

            Foul language. insults and lies … typical right-wing c,ment.

          • Rob D

            FU

          • Borninbrooklyn

            Took us down the toilet, that’s what!

          • freethinker4

            We ‘ll have to dig our asses out of it true. But thank God Obama’s out before we entered the tank.

          • AKLady2015

            During the last year of the Bush Administration. America was droping an average of 1 million jobs per month.

          • freethinker4

            I wouldn’t doubt that but you fail to realize it started in 2000, the economy was already set in motion because of Clinton trade deals. Did you realize Bill Clinton himself brokered a sale of a high tec. magnet company in 98 with the provision it not leave american soil until 2005 or later. That was reported by Charles Gibson Nightly news (fact check segment) during the 2008 democratic primary when Hillary was blaming G W. Bush for the company leaving If we truly investigated the Clinton’s they would be in prison. Hell most of our government would be?

          • edw_jr

            Gimmee a break Born. The country is in the best shape we have seen since the last GOP clown left office.

          • ABO

            If you believe a word of that you have just proved yourself to be a pathetic moron junior.

          • Mathew Molk

            You are even more delusional then “Mike” ,,,,Unless you only want to consider the days since the election. If that is what you are talking about I have to agree. The second the cackling witch was shut out things improved immeasurably.
            …..and it’s going to get one hell of a lot better in 13 days and hours.

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you lie?

          • Borninbrooklyn

            LOL!!

          • AKLady2015

            No valid facts.
            Childish name calling.
            Childish insults.
            .

          • AKLady2015

            What do you gain from lies?

          • edw_jr

            Thinker, you would not understand the explanation anyway, so it would be a total waste of time and energy. Your kind cannot be educated!

          • Mathew Molk

            A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing,,,,

            10 bucks says with your “formal education” you have no idea where that came

            (Hint look to Stratford on Avon)

          • skipsart

            The Troll, AK Idiot can’t explain anything.

          • ABO

            You’ll have to wait while she makes up one of her ridiculous stories, freethinker.

          • just me

            We can only hope

          • edw_jr

            At least there are two of us here who agree. The Orange haired idiot will crash and burn soon. He will lie himself into oblivion. Hopefully he won’t take the country along for the ride.

          • Mathew Molk

            “Trump will implode by the end of the week”

            Isn’t that what they say everyday on the MSM morning news and have been for well over a year now?

            Junior, dear Junior, Stop getting your information from your commissar and the MSM people that said Trump was always behind in the polls and never had any chance to be elected.

            Come back when you grow up.

          • AKLady2015

            I agree 100%.
            However, given the Census documentation of the great number of Americans who have dropped out of school, I am afraid Trump may just take the Nation down with him.

          • alegalcitizen

            Most of those dropping our are the blacks and hispanics.

          • AKLady2015

            That us not what the Census data has recorded.
            What source are you relying upon?

          • dux nobis28

            Obviously retarted!

          • skipsart

            Troll Alert !!!

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          • Cheryl Detar

            And the cost of flying around the country to promote HildaBEAST, for the entire month of October.

          • AKLady2015

            Really?
            Find an Air Force Base near you to spend the afternoon watching the planes take off an land. You need a better education.

          • AKLady2015

            Your tax dollars went to pay for two necessary wars.

            Your tax dollar killed 4,000 American military men and women.

            Your tax dollar went kill over one million innocent Iraqi women, children and elderly.

            Your tax dollar is not going to pay the interest on the money borrowed fro the Bank of China to pay for those wars

          • alegalcitizen

            BUT you said above that we paid for two necessary wars, what are you complaining about if they were necessary?

          • Michael Dennewitz

            Excuse me, her real name is BENGHAZI BITCH! πŸ˜†

          • AKLady2015

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          • AKLady2015

            Childish foul language.
            Very impressive.

          • Mike

            then you must be outraged that Melania and their son plan on remaining in NYC post inauguration forcing your tax dollars to be spent guarding two locations full time.

          • edw_jr

            They seem to accept that, Mike. Guess they don’t want a Trump and a tramp in the White House together.

          • Mathew Molk

            Are you actually THAT dimwitted?

          • Mike

            it is costing NYC 1million per day to protect the president elect which is fine but if Melania and their son remain that cost will continue and the taxpayer will pay. that is no more right. the white house has been good enough for every other presidential family but the elitist trump

          • Mike

            no but you must be if you supported the orange haired witless wonder

          • db

            Well, he was and is dreaming, again, that’s why he likes the ‘dreamers’, who don’t pay their dues but walk in and collect from everyone what doesn’t belong to them. They are in simple terms, thieves and robbers, for which there are penalties. We forget that God sees it all, but He also returns the responsibility and the dominion to us, to whom He gave it in the Beginning. So it is up to US to establish and maintain the guidelines and enforce those laws, not Him!But we ALL will give account to Him of what we did with what He gave us, too!

          • gotcha1

            Good Point! Payback for all those vacations should come out of his 6 figure retirement pension.

          • pineapple

            Here is a list of staff members to help the First Lady in “maintaining the dignity of her office” and their salaries:

            Natalie F. Bookey Baker, executive assistant to the chief of staff to the first lady, $45,000;

            Alan O. Fitts, deputy director of advance and trip director for the first lady, $61,200;

            Jocelyn C. Frey, deputy assistant to the president and director of policy and projects for the first lady, $140,000;

            Jennifer Goodman, deputy director of scheduling and events coordinator for the first lady, $63,240;

            Deilia A.L. Jackson, deputy associate director of correspondence for the first lady, $42,000;

            Kristen E. Jarvis, special assistant for scheduling and traveling aide to the first lady, $51,000;

            Camille Y. Johnston, special assistant to the president and director of communications for the first lady, $102,000;

            Tyler A. Lechtenberg, director of correspondence for the first lady, $50,000;

            Catherine M. Lelyveld, director and press secretary to the first lady, $85,680;

            Dana M. Lewis, special assistant and personal aide to the first lady, $66,000;

            Trooper Sanders, deputy director of policy and projects for the first lady, $85,000;

            Susan S. Sher, assistant to the president and chief of staff and counsel to the first lady, $172,200;

            Frances M. Starkey, director of scheduling and advance for the first lady, $80,000;

            Semonti M. Stevens, associate director and deputy press secretary to the first lady, $53,550;

            Melissa Winter, special assistant to the president and deputy chief of staff to the first lady, $102,000.

            The White House social secretary works for the first lady and serves
            as head of the White House Social Office, which plans everything from
            the casual and educational student workshops to elegant and
            sophisticated state dinners welcoming world leaders.

            In the Office of White House Social Secretary were the following staffers:

            Erinn J. Burnough, deputy director and deputy social secretary, $66,300;

            Joseph B. Reinstein, deputy director and deputy social secretary, $66,300;

            Julianna S. Smoot, deputy assistant to the president and White House social secretary, $150,000.

            And this list does not include Michelle Obama’s immense cost for her
            to travel. When she does, she also lists her two daughters as “Senior
            Staff Members” so they will get paid (courtesy of you and me). I’ll bet
            you didn’t know that you were paying the two girls “allowance,” did you?

            Given the current state of our economy and given the fact that our
            nation’s veterans are having their benefits decreased or cut-off all
            together, I think the “First Lady” could “down-size” just a little and
            cut a few corners, wouldn’t you say? On my trusty little old 45
            year old MONROE 3140 calculator that total comes to $1,415,170.00 per
            year in salaries for her 17 personal staff members. I wonder how many
            disabled veterans who lost limbs just in the last 5 years that amount of
            money would take care of.

            So, to sum it all up, let’s imagine just for a moment that you had in
            your possession, an EBT card, one with no spending limit, and whatever
            you did spend, you’d never have to pay back. Then you’d know what it was
            like to walk a mile in Michelle Obama’s designer shoes.

          • ItsJo

            Have seen this list before, and seeing it now-is JUST as Disgusting as other First Lady’s had just one Personal Secretary, etc. But Michelle, just Like Barack, were “like Gluttons, feeding OFF the Taxpayer’s Public Trough, and they felt ‘entitled to Squander our Tax Dollars, when other Americans were having such a bad time, taking care of their families, on Very Little AND, it got worse for them, under the
            “Gluttonous-Jefferson’s who “were Move’n On Up”……..

            Jesse Jackson, had Michelle, a friend with HIS family for years as she was always with them and as I understand,
            Jackson helped Rev. Wright Set up the Obama marriage, which has a LOT of doubt among Wright’s OWN flock, as One of his own workers talked about “the Sham Marriage”

            Think about this one-have you EVER seen ANY Pictures of Michelle Obama pregnant with Either of the two girls?
            I haven’t EVER, but have seen ones of Jackie Kennedy, etc. so One DOES WONDER-WHAT OTHER THINGS WILL COME OUT ABOUT THE OBAMAS, ONCE THEY LEAVE OFFICE, AND SOME “HONEST WRITERS DO SOME ‘REAL RESEARCH’ AND THE TRUTH WILL OUT.”

          • pineapple

            Meanwhile, Obama spends $100 million on his vacations, courtesy of taxpayers.

          • pineapple

            The Obamas spent $100 million on vacations, courtesy of taxpayers.

          • theseer

            ONE TRIP TO AFRICA COST TAXPAYERS 100 MILLION HE EVEN HAD BULLET PROOF GLASS FLOWN IN FOR HIS HOTEL ROOM…PLUS MOTHER=IN=LAW AND HER FRIENDS HOTEL, FOOD, TRANSPORTATION ALL PAID BY TAXPAYERS…MALIA GOT PAID $26,000 WHEN ON TRIPS

          • David in MA

            Now you understand why he wants Americans to tighten their belts, so he can live like a dictator.

        • pmbalele

          Please do not listen to Ted Cruz. He is no American. He was born in Canada to a Cuban national. Cruz is there Cuban-Canadian.

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            Ted Cruz has little to do with this idea… patriots have always understood that to eliminate cronyism, you must limit terms.

          • AKLady2015

            Really?
            Is that why the Founders did not take that action?

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            If you do a little reading on the subject, you will find they were divided on this issue, as they were on a great many issues. Just because it didn’t end up in the final document doesn’t mean they weren’t concerned. They knew the implications and impending outcome but were not able to sway the majority into action. Happens all the time, even now, don’t ya think?

          • alegalcitizen

            So how many of the founders were in the house and Senate for up to 36 years?? And in some cases over 50 years.

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            do you have a point? As I said above, they were not all in agreement. You are just trying to be obtuse, therefore, you are irrelevant.

          • AKLady2015

            Why do you assume your history education is better than that of other’s?

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            Because you say things that are ignorant… you are obviously being purposefully obtuse, as others here believe you a troll, time to end a non-productive conversation.

          • AKLady2015

            LOL. You assume, assume, assume …

          • edw_jr

            Or elect people who are sincere about their jobs and are dedicated to serving the will of the electors. Unfortunately, the Trump folks seem to feel that they have been persecuted by everyone they never bothered to vote for or against. We all know that if you do nothing, you can’t possibly make a mistake.

          • Mathew Molk

            I have to agree with that one 1000% If you don’t vote then shut the fuck up. I have not missed an election of any type since I got back from Vietnam, and didn’t vote before then because you had to be 21and I spent my 21st birthday on perimeter guard outside Tuy Hoa. (I think the voting age should be put back to 21 or even 24 BTW)

          • Michael Dennewitz

            You need to seriously consider knocking off snorting that shit! It has begun frying of your brain!😣

          • Barkingdeathsquirrel

            Now you’re assuming junior had a brain in the first place.

          • Mathew Molk

            I don’t care who’s idea it is, It is a Damn good one. Just rather see senators limited to 2 FOUR year terms. They can do way too much damage in 6.

          • db

            Then VOTE them out! DUH

          • db

            Ummmmmmmm, not so fast, Pilgrim! Our Founding Fathers didn’t look at it that way. They left the decisions to the PEOPLE, not some coagulation of ‘government’ few that decides for the masses! The States are the deciding factor, not the “GOVERNMENT” that is like baby Huey, too big for his diaper but still in it!

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            Thomas Jefferson, a student of European history, did not attend the Constitutional Convention of 1787. But upon his return from France, he took one look at the proposed Constitution and spotted a key omission.

            β€œThe…feature I dislike, and greatly dislike, is the abandonment in every instance of the necessity of rotation in office, and most particularly in the case of the President,” he wrote.

            termlimits.org

          • John

            He might be as you state…but he has forgotten more about the constitution than you will ever know! Give credit where credit is due.

          • Mike

            i don’t even like ted cruz and I agree with him on this. and your statement is 100 percent true

          • db

            No, he is not qualified to even discuss OUR Constitution. And, the reason he has probably studied it so closely is to find the loopholes, like the attorney’s do that represent the Law, big laugh!

          • alegalcitizen

            Yeppers, your HERO Obama is a lawyer, the Clinton’s are lawyers, so what about them???

          • db

            We have to be suspicious and careful in whom we place our trust. It might sound good to some, but it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do. And what are his motives? To make a name for himself so he can climb that government ladder? He is not a citizen of the USA and should not be in office himself, but seems to OVERLOOK THAT ONE QUALIFICATION, AS HE DID IN RUNNING FOR AN OFFICE TO WHICH HE IS NOT ENTITLED TO RUN! He has not bothered to become a citizen, right? What is stopping him? His loyalty to Cuba? Canada? ??? Give me a good, sound reason.

          • John

            I have never said he should be President for the same reasons I don’t think Obama should have been given the green light. I do think Ted Cruz has a good grasp of the constitution however and is probably a fine Senator. The reasons you mention are good ones for not promoting him as a Presidential Candidate.

          • Barkingdeathsquirrel
          • AKLady2015

            His mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth.
            That made him an American citizen.

          • db

            No, sorry, he was born in a foreign country, strike one. His father was a Cuban national, which the Constitution declares the FATHER has to be a US citizen for his child to be one, too. His father was NOT a US citizen. He also, very abruptly, denounced and renounced his Canadian citizenship, thinking that would solve the problem and give him access to an office he had no legal or CONSTITUTIONAL right to. The people promoting BHO tried to change the Constitution before he ran, too, but realized it was too great a challenge that would never be done. AND so they did an end run around the Constitution by falsifying his identity. You will see in the days to come just what that identity consists of…not a US Citizen, and therefore an illegal, invalid and ineligible president, who knew this going in and did it anyway. Who also took full ADVANTAGE of our ECONOMY and installed as many Jesuit trained people as possible all along the way, giving the Vatican full control of our nation! He was and is a plant. He did his job. He fooled the foolish.

          • Barkingdeathsquirrel

            Try again, fool. The US Constitution does NOT state that the father must be a US Citizen. BTW, that’s very sexist of you to infer WITHOUT evidence or study.
            Here’s the law and it does NOT mention anything about the one American citizen having to be the father.
            https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-child-born-abroad.html

            Choke on it.

          • AKLady2015

            The Constitution says no such thing.

            Your allegations, if true, would make every child of a U.S. Serviceman, born overseas, ineligible to be President.

            Citizenship laws only require one parent to be an American for a child to hold citizenship by birth. https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship .

            Why do you have the need to lie about our President? Where did you get the craziness about the Vatican? The Jesuit run universities are among those that are highly rated. Students are not forced to take religious education classes.

          • db

            Yes, my thoughts exactly. We don’t need government telling us what to do anymore, we allow the States (people) to do the choosing of whom they send to represent the PEOPLE.

          • Barkingdeathsquirrel

            Ted Cruz IS an American citizen and here is the FEDERAL LAW that backs it, you idiot.
            https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-child-born-abroad.html

            His mother DID NOT renounce her citizenship.
            She filed his birth at the American embassy in Canada.
            She DID NOT vote in a Canadian election.
            A LAZY census taker counted her as a possible voter
            She was WORKING ABROAD for a company and happened to be pregnant at the time she accepted or was assigned the job.
            She fulfilled all requirements under the law.
            NO, the US Constitution does not state that one can only gain American citizenship by being born in the United States and congress passed that law in order to give foreign birth qualifications for American citizens.

            Now, quit your idiotic and factless birther diatribe about Ted Cruz.

          • pmbalele

            What – Ted Cruz IS an American citizen! I guess you did not hear President-elect Trump denouncing Cruz as citizen. I am told when Trump is sworn in, Ted Cruz will be the first to deported to Cuba or Canada where he can easily be president. And by-other-way, why did you whine about Obama? Obama was born in Hawaii to an American Saint. That means you’re a racist and traitor.

        • Richard Daugherty

          What they have is a graft. They are stealing from the American people. They use influence and extortion. They are all multi millionaires. High time this stopped. We need people in office that are truly for the country.

        • Michael Paul

          A combat veteran could serve 10 years in multiple war zones and then decide to leave the military and he walks away with nothing unless he is injured. A congressman can serve 2 terms (that’s what I have been told) which is 4 years in cushy Washington and leave with a lifetime pension and medical benefits. How is this possible. 12 years maximum, 12 years of medical benefits, 12 years worth of pension and that’s max that they should get and the combat soldier no matter how many years they serve in a war zone should get some kind of pension for each year served in a war zone.

        • Mary Brumley

          I really like your moniker! It says much.

        • pineapple

          I like Trumps idea to ban Congress members from becoming lobbyists until five years after leaving Congress.

        • hum4me

          amen,

        • Pam

          You know that is a valid point . Why should a temp position have a retirement other than a 401k type just like any other business that could be rolled over when you left that job. Bravo!

        • theseer

          ALSO FREE AIR TRAVEL FIRST CLASS!!!

        • David in MA

          One six year term in the senate is rewarded with full retirement and benefits, how is that for a job?
          Anything like YOUR’s, not mine!

        • Pete Dillon

          BS do some research on benefits for Congressional employees. You are living in a fool’s paradise.

          • BornAgainSouthernPride

            Really?

      • petestrand

        Totally agree!

      • teamsbill

        For sure they should have same health care they push on us

      • AKLady2015

        They already have exactly the same programs as you do.
        They pay for their health insurance.
        They pay into their retirement.
        They pay Social Security Tax.

        • John

          WRONG, their programs are MUCH better, to fit their elevated status! WE are tired of their elevated status and it’s perks!!

          • AKLady2015

            Put your money where your mouth is — prove your claim with facts.

          • db

            you must work for the government

          • John

            If you don’t know about the perks of congress you need to do the research! They DO have a very nice retirement, health care system and other perks that I will never see!

          • AKLady2015

            Insults are not facts.

            Obviously, you are unable to support your allegations with facts,

            Congress gets its health insurance the same place the rest of America does — the marketplace. The ACA took them out of the government employees benefit plans. Beginning in 2009, Congress has turned down the automatic pay raises provided by law.

            Members elected since 1984 are covered by the Federal Employees’ Retirement System (FERS). Members of Congress are not eligible for a pension until they reach the age of 50, but only if they’ve completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62. Please also note that Members of Congress have to serve at least 5 years to even receive a pension.

            Under the Federal Employee Retirement System, her average annual pension was $35,952.

      • Jimbo

        They shouldn’t earn retirement or health care benefits in one or two terms either. Only if their combined service in congress and another federal agency exceeds 20 years, like the rest of us.

        • alegalcitizen

          We want TERM LIMITS, so the bastards can’t be in there for 20 years. They get privileges that sent Martha Stewart to prison. Go in “dead broke” like the Clintons after living off of some form of Government. Come out Millionaires. She can spout that we left the white house “dead broke”, but they BOTH had huge book advances, him 12 mil, her 8 mil. Wish I was that dead broke!

      • Edward B. Levy

        ernaldo, I agree with you. and on term in office, we can now get rid of some of the over th hill gang. both sides of the aisle, both houses. ex: Pelosi, McCain, Reid(gone) and many more. 3 terms in house, 2 terms in the senate 15 years in Supreme Court, keep 2 erms President. Limit Secret Service Protection for President 2 years after office. We have NEVER had an attack on a PAST PRESIDENT. They are now ALL wealthy enough for private bodyguards

      • Gary Smith

        AMEN

      • db

        aCTUALLY, IT IS ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL for Congress to implement any program that they are not subject to themselves, that is dictatorial. But who is paying any attention to our Constitution? Well, it is time that we make our representatives take notice and if they don’t want to acknowledge our laws, they can get out of government, by OUR VOTE!

      • Mary Brumley

        They should also have a profession or settled career before they take office. We should elect them to become a public servant for a time. Then their own retirement would be available also.
        The teaching profession used to mostly consist of dedicated people. The state’s and national union have changed that!

      • MASTERMECH

        If the voters got off their butts and voted out the shoddy performers, the retirement list would be much shorter. As long as they are in office, let them have Tri-Care. If it is good enough for us retired service personnel, it is good enough for them. I am not in favor of federal management of general civilian heath care. Some how it does not come under Support and Defend the Constitution and the United States sovereignty.

        • Woodgnome49

          Agreed!!

      • pineapple

        Congress exempted itself from Obamacare by declaring themselves to be a “small business.”

      • Dennis Derstine

        I agree with you and Justin. We also need to ban lobbying. Lobbying is legal bribery.

      • Richard Daugherty

        This is only common sense.

      • hum4me

        I strongly agree, dont give me the bill for their fancy policy, make them use VA hospitals, and watch the treatment of the veterans begin to improve immediately

      • theseer

        YES…AND AFTER SERVING ONLY 2 YRS RECEIVE A LIFETIME PENSION…THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!

      • M.Bohannon-Kaplan

        Absolutely! I’ve advocated that for years & years.

      • David in MA

        The current retirement and health care should be before the supreme court as to being constitutional or not, where the congress gives privilege to themselves and denies it to the people.

      • William Earl Ellis

        You got that hight

    • sensrbtch

      TERM LIMITS IS TOO VOTE! thatr is how it is done. a constitutional conference will do nothing butt give the demokraps and all the illegals in the congress now, a platform from which too stall,stutter, obfuscate and mislead the people!?

      • jim

        Sensrbtch So you suggest that we do NOTHING !!

      • captprozac

        don’t get your pants in a wad.Democrats have so screwed up the voting thats how they get in. Not only do we need term limits we need VOTER ID. You need to show who you are for everything but vote, does that make sense

        • Carolyn Henderson

          Agree absolutely!

    • Carolyn Henderson

      Amen & AMEN

    • irish1919

      Limits on our Supreme Court

    • John

      AND once you serve as a legislator, you can NEVER be a filthy lobbyist!!

    • Barney Biggs

      I agree but the question also becomes as to how long should the term be? Society is so complicated now that it takes some years for anybody to get a handle on what is happening and truly understand things. Having worked with politicians and others I would thinks 10 years or three terms would probably be a decent time to take the first could of year to understand what they are doing then start to make some decent decisions. Too short of a term and you are just asking for major trouble.

    • Ellen

      You could not have said it any better. People should campaign for term limits.

    • Carolyn Brack-Jackson

      Justin, I totally agree! As well as ex-presidents and their families paying for their own security once out of office, pay for their own pensions and healthcare! Why should these so called representatives of the people live better than the people they represent!

    • David in MA

      Where there is no Constitutional mention of no position other than president and v. president there may be no need for an amendment, legislation could address the terms of office.

  • Bob Hooper

    All term limits represent is a hats off to gerrymandering that has been going on for a while. If the people want to return a well serving politician to office, why should Ted or anyone impose their will on the general population?

    • Alan Mills

      Pretty shallow thinking on your part.

    • Michael Dennewitz

      Gotta be a damned liberal! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜ƒ

    • Rosech Levy

      Cruz is pushing OUR agenda, Bob. Where have you been for the last few decades of ruination? Or, you prefer being controlled I would guess.

  • Lew Williams

    I would like to see term limits for reporters too…….

  • CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS AMENDMENT:
    First. People, you need to face the problem: Government has become too big, and now affects everything we do. Small, local governments, at the state, city and county level can be run effectively by intelligent amateurs. However, with the massive government we have now, THE EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS HAVE THE POWER. CURRENTLY, THE MOST SENIOR rEPRESENTATIVES AND sENATORS HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE. iF WE HAVE TERM LIMITS,THE EXPERIENCE WILL RESIDE IN HIGH LEVEL BUREAUCRATS, AND REAL POWER WILL RESIDE IN THEIR HANDS. DOES ANYONE REALLY PREFER THAT? I DO NOT.

    • Rosech Levy

      We must also enforce age limits as the average age now in Congress is 76 and getting rid of these continual vipers is essential, ie: McCain, Graham, Pelosi, and so many RINOS and start fresh!

    • Carolyn Henderson

      Experience is a high dollar commodity that is bought & sold.

  • Rosech Levy

    Gung Ho! and do it! Long time asking for the 2 term limit and no better time for the Republicans to show they are on our Trump train and get it done. Then next to remove benefits/perks we did not vote for them and now is the time to clear up that they are elected (read hired) to do OUR bidding and not their own and lining their pockets on us and the almighty donor dollar. We should also include a few words that state if they don’t do what they were sent to do, we can advise them by letter they are fired and need to depart immediately as we have a well vetted honest (please God) candidate ready to take their place. AND never, ever any muslim in any of our legislature – remember the saying about the camel’s nose and be warned!

    • Motorhead

      Amen Brother!

  • Deplorable wizard

    Included in the term limits discussion needs to be pay. Currently “our” senators and representatives receive their government pay for life, even after a single term.

    Also the return of some of these politicians as lobbyists as well as removal of “exclusionary” apsects, such as, currently they are excluded from the taxes of the ACA, among other “benefits” not given to every other citizen of the United States.

    • David Fowler

      I don’t think that is exactly true. I have looked this up and although they do have a very good retirement plan, they don’t get the same pay for life after only one term. Their retirement increases with seniority as it does in most jobs that have a retirement plan. I can’t quote exact figures and I really don’t want to look it up again, but this information is available on the internet. Actually, if they received full pay after only one term, this could give them incentive to retire early. Since this is not what really happens, they have an incentive to stay as long as possible for the increased retirement. That is another reason term limits are needed. They really don’t need a pension at all since many of them become lobbyists after leaving office and that probably pays better anyway.

  • Murphmeister

    To get it passed you have to grandfather it. That’s the only way to get it through Congress. My proposal:
    10 two year terms in the House. 4 four year terms in the Senate, 1 six year term for president, 1 16 year term for all appellate judges. 1 20 year term for all district court judges.

    • captprozac

      you are nuts

      • NormWilson

        Could you explain exactly what you mean? Or are you just calling names because you’re not smart enough to articulate?

        • captprozac

          dear Norm saying your train of thought is nuts is not calling anyone a name. As to my smarts JGFY. Happys now ! have a good life and GOD bless

          • David Fowler

            Well, at least you abbreviate your inappropriate insults.

      • Murphmeister

        You are brief.

  • BornAgainSouthernPride

    one and done… do the job and then get out.

  • LittleMoose

    Beside term limits, Congress should be subject to all the laws that they pass. They should not be able to write themselves out of compliance.

  • Dale

    If I might be as bold as to offer some information that should be considered! You probably would be able to push this through and get these limits to pass at this point. That would give the newly elected officials limits to accomplish all the repair work needed to finish the draining period. Think and don’t shoot yourself in the foot. Just sayin…. So help me God

  • Laxmom2

    The one thing our founding fathers could not anticipate…that freeloading politicians would use their positions as “public servants” to make millions of dollars from their life-long political careers…all on the backs of the American taxpayer. It’s not so much their salaries but their “expense accounts,” many “perks,” and connections they make to line their pockets…all at the expense of the American people. Most Americans have absolutely no clue as to the extent of the corruption.
    Our only hope to truly “drain the Washington swamp” is President-elect Donald J. Trump.

    • captprozac

      our forefathers said the states should appoint their senators. That way they were accountable to their constitutents

      • David Fowler

        I believe that was amended out of our Constitution. It would take another amendment to put it back. There were provisions made to amend the Constitution if need be. Otherwise, we would only have the Bill of Rights.

  • Velma Saccone

    I vote for term limits for all elected officials. I also vote for all Congress to be forced to be in the same health care and retirement programs we the taxpayers must live under. Cut their salaries and do away with any other benefits a normal taxpayer does not have. We the people are tired of the corruption in our elected officials.

    • Motorhead

      You have very good common sense,! God bless!

  • tundrafox

    Term limits should have been in place 100 years ago and we most likely wouldn’t have as many filthy greedy Congressmen as we have now with the exception of the socialist liberal communist democraps they would whine and cry.

    • captprozac

      maybe it is that most are lawyer’s

      • tundrafox

        This is probably true…

  • Agostino

    I would prefer fourteen years in Congress. That would allow one House term and two Senate terms or maybe four House terms and one Senate term. In any case, tie it to time in office. If someone served two House terms, he or she would have to resign part way through a second Senate term. Also, no more than five House terms.

  • Duane L Petersen

    There is a way to stop this and here is one way to stop this BS and that would be a http://www.conventionofstates.com/.com.

    The AG of the states should elect an AG that is only answerable to the states and has unlimited subpoena powers for any federal agency, department, or office including the presidents. This AG has a mandate to look into any and all areas of government misconduct. If any employee of the government pleads the 5th amendment they will have all security clearances will automatically be revoked and restricted from any meetings that discusses any government business. This AG would also have the right to investigate any and all federal bookkeeping and be authorized to audit any branch of government and anyone that throws up roadblocks to that audit is to be fired immediately with no recourse with complete loss of all rights to pensions and any other government benefits.
    Another amendment could be that no amendment can overturn any other amendment unless that amendment specifically quotes the other amendment and revokes it and the Supreme Court could not overturn any amendment through any ruling. Only the congress or the states through an article 5 convention could revoke an amendment in actuality or in practice or for practical purposes.
    There could be an amendment through the article 5 convention that says something like. The only international agreements that are binding are those that has been passed by the Senate and House by a 3/4 majority and has to be released to the public at least 6 months before being passed. No agreement is valid if only signed by the president they have no authority to bind the country in any way.
    There needs to be a modern Committees of Correspondence in every state to put together the paperwork and the legislatures that will push the call to bring about the convention. Incase there is someone out there that doesn’t know what the Committees of Correspondence were what brought about the revolution in 1776. But we can do it without any bloodshed or violence but it is going to take a team effort to get the congress to call the convention.

    There is one sure way to stop this totalitarian usurpation of power and that is to call for an article 5 convention and have this amendment be one of the first to be ratified.
    There is one amendment that would stop this in its tracks and that would only be passed in an Article V convention, as the congress does not have the intestinal fortitude to enact it. That amendment would give the states the power to impeach any federal elected, appointed, or hired person with 60% of the states voting to impeach this would include the Supreme Court Justices and all other federal judges. It would also give the states the power to repeal any law, court ruling including the Supreme Court, agency rule, within 3 years of ruling or passage and the states would have 15 years after passage of this amendment to repeal any law, ruling including the Supreme court decisions, or agency, ever passed. These can be enacted by the state legislatures or by referendum of 55% of the people or a combination of referenda and or legislatures of the different states or a 51% vote of the legislatures of 60% of the total states.
    The only problem with this is that state legislators would almost have to become full time or the time restrictions
    would have to be longer.
    The next amendment would be a term limit amendment that would restrict the House to 12 years and the Senate to 12 years or a combination of the 2 to 18 years and would restrict the employment of any former congressperson for 12 years from having any contact with the new congress through any means or any intermediary except if running for president. This would also outlaw the unionization of any governmental employee that is also in the civil service, as they do not need dual representation.
    These ex congress people would not be eligible to work in any agency or department of the government for life.

    • NormWilson

      I think you need to re-read this post and cut out about 75% of your hyperbole and reduce it to simple language.

      • Duane L Petersen

        Or maybe you should read it a little closer as there is not anything that is out of line of the founding fathers. If they had of known what we have now they would pushed most of them at the time of implementation. The language that I have used is in no way what I would expect to be passed but the ideas are the thing that has to be done.

    • Carolyn Henderson

      No one person should have that much power in a Democracy.!

  • dosadoe

    Via con Dios! You are going on a noble political quest and hopefully you will not be tilting at windmills since the American People are with you on term limits! The example of Pelosi and Schumer should be enough of an incentive to get your Constitutional Amendment going!

  • sensrbtch

    will these guys have the gop send them back too Cuba? all Spanish based people should be required too serve ins Spenglerian country, for 4 years, and then form a komite too discuss what they did or didn’t do. so what is kerry gona do?

    • NormWilson

      In english please?

  • Katie Jones

    We are going to pass a term limit. Texas will join as soon as our session is up and running for they only have 180 days to get things done in texas. We meet every other year and this is the year they meet. The Constitutional convention of states has already passed the house it just needs to pass the Senate and this year it will pass!

  • martin Gries

    Fat chance Cruz will get this past the law makers..But I give him credit for giving it a try. A publicity stunt at best….These hogs will not be pushed away from the troff very easily…look at Feinstein…she went from 40,000 a year to now worth 100, 000,000. She had help with husband MR BLUM…he got all those Government contracts…geee….he must have known someone high up on the political food chain huh? These hogs are tough to get rid of while they’re at the feed troff…..

  • Righteous Truth

    Instead of Term Limits, my suggestion would concentrate on getting more people involved in the process. About 45% of our fellow citizens didn’t even make the effort to drag their Sorry Ascots out of the house to cast a ballot – in 2016 – with ALL of the hoopin’ and hollerin’ during the election. That’s disgraceful! So, let’s stoop to their level: Instead of an “I Voted” sticker, each person who casts a ballot receives a special Election Lottery ticket (randomly generated). The Lottery Pot is generated by requiring each candidate and each PAC to “donate” 2% of their donations. The winnings would be tax free!

    • captprozac

      so you think you should get something for voting

      • Righteous Truth

        Nope – but you should google the idea – it’s not original with me!

    • Carolyn Henderson

      If money is involved, it will be polluted. NO money for voting.

      • Righteous Truth

        Wouldn’t be fun to see what sorts of Swamp Monsters come out for a Lottery Ticket?

    • Deplorable Lanie

      And we think we have trouble with multiple voting and non-citizen voting NOW? If money were attached, everybody and their dog would be voting!

      • Righteous Truth

        Well, at least EVERYBODY would be voting, Deplorable Lanie!!

  • herefreeman

    There are term limits in place now. Vote out the bad ones and keep the good ones, What would happen if another Thomas Jefferson or any other Founding Father type appears?

  • bkordelski

    Several Democratic Representatives have already stated thet they can-NOT live reasonably with ONLY $175,000.00 a year, plus their Extra $ for commitee mambers and their Travel and alternate housing allotments and anything else they can scrounge, or should I say Scrooge.

    • Carolyn Henderson

      And they think(we think) they can honestly represent US. They need to take a class in ‘budgeting ‘.

  • mcffoster

    I totally support “Term Limits” for EVERY elected official/representative/senator in Washington, D. C. It has worked out very well in states that have passed such a constitutional amendment despite what the career politicians and lobbyists think.
    But I feel that the terms should be as follows: House representatives to two three-year terms and senators to two six-year terms. The reason for that being, representatives that were elected would be able to spend more time “representing the people that sent them to Washington” and less time and money campaigning for re-election.
    Hopefully this can and will be accomplished while we have a republican president and a republican majority of both houses of congress.

    • captprozac

      I think that senators should be appointed by the states legislature. The way it was intended

  • petestrand

    Great move, but US representatives should change to four year terms, so don’t have to campaign/fund raise the minute elected; three four-year term limits for them!!

    • Carolyn Henderson

      2 terms.

  • buffalobob826

    Not only that but Congress should not be able to do insider trading. The rest of the country will go to jail for doing insider trading but Congress can do it and it’s not against the law. Put them in jail just like Martha Stewart.

  • chris

    add the senate too. one term per person per family!

  • GreatWarVet

    Limits should be imposed, never was there any intention to make Congress a career. They were to serve the public for a term, then go back home. The retirement program they have given themselves is embarrassing and would never have been approved by their constituents.

  • dog lover

    No life time pensions, healthcare nothing period. Yes for term limits for all DC politicians

  • Joe Blow

    About damn time.

  • Woodgnome49

    Term limits are a must. These are public service jobs and as a member of the public they serve I don’t think they should be given retirement or healthcare. I have never had a job that offered either of those as a perk for working. I have spent my whole life attempting to find a position that had long term prospects and provided nothing more than work mens comp. and my hourly wage. I am now 60 and have a one week cushion in the bank in case I get sick. I wasn’t given that cushion I saved it from my wages. I HAVE NO PAYED VACATION, NO HEALTHCARE, AND NO PENSION!!! I have worked all my life and have nothing to retire on. THIS MEENS I WILL NEVER GET TO RETIER! You want a retirement program get a job that offers that. I cant afford to give you one.

    • rsewill

      You need a union job.

  • QuinsigamondMan

    What is the vote totals? Registered twice but wanted no gifts, what gives?

  • George Matyas

    The problem is simple, when I came to the USA, and I applied for citizenship, you had to agree to ACCEPT USA civil laws and customs, otherwise you did not become a citizen and you could be asked to leave because your stateless passport would expire (refugee status). so why is this not happening now, your religion would have to accept these requirements, or you are free to find another home. Remember you are refugee, you gave fighting for your beliefs, so accept your new beliefs.

  • Allan Zaug

    Absolutely fantastic! Term limits would be a great move for the country. I also feel something needs to be done about donations for running candidates and donations from big buisness to congress and senate.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Yes,. stop the “bribery” from corporate interests.

  • Martbigee

    I agree with Justin and with her response to ernldo. I also believe that, when they’re no longer in office they deserve no more benefits than the rest of us get when we leave our jobs.

  • Borgnichtx

    I think term limits is the answer. And now is the time for a Constitutional Amendment with
    the majorities the Republicans have in the state legislatures. As for line item vetoes, the POTUS
    should have that too. I suggest that if a line item is crossed out of a bill the congress should vote on
    the bill a second time. If the bill passes again it becomes law. If not, the bill is dead.

  • 1IndianaSeniorCitizen2

    Great — but that amount of time on the job should NOT entitle them to receive a salary (pension) for the rest of their lives. Pension should be, like most other Americans, based on age and length of service.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Social Security.

  • barbarakelly

    OUR FOUNDING FATHERS NEVER WANTED LIFE LONG POLITICIANS IN GOV. WE HAVE BEEN NEEDING TO GO BACK TO WHAT THEY WANTED –TERM LIMITS. THAT WAY WE GET FRESH PEOPLE WITH FRESH IDEA’S TO IMPROVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT THEMSELVES. THESE POLITICIANS HAVE GOTTEN RICHER WHILE WE THE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN POORER. AND THEN THEY WANT TO TAX US MORE—-THIS HAS GOT TO STOP NOW.!!!

  • Jim_Macklin

    The President is term limited. I think rather than term limits a mandatory retirement age combined with a mental and physical evaluation. I remember Cranston being used like a ventriloquist’s dummy by his staff.
    More important, all candidates must prove their fitness for office such as school transcripts, and verified birth certificates. If records are sealed the person cannot run for dog catcher, let alone President.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Show me that in the constitution………

  • ld_elon

    this:

    But proponents argue that the absence of term limits encourages
    lawmakers to keep a low profile, obey the establishment leadership, and
    slowly but surely work their way up the D.C. ladder of success.

  • AKLady2015

    Make America hate again …

    • Joseph Carrilho

      F. O. dummy.

  • ernst

    Term limits for Congress are as important as term limits for the President. It has worked well for the Presidency. It will work well for Congress.

  • Deplorable Lanie

    Yes, we need to get rid of these “life-long” politicians. Terms limits will help begin to “drain the swamp”.

  • EBRM

    I see this AKLady2015 is still around spewing her trash propaganda. AKLady you are an IDIOT so just piss off and try to get a life. You are nothing more than a sore loser and NOBODY takes any notice of you.You are probably a radical muslim who loves OBozo and should be in jail.

    • Linda Pfister

      Ebrm. Boy your right. I like your attitude sounds like something I would say.

  • gotabgood

    Freedom of speech would be gone, unless you used Jesus or God in religious way.
    Civil rights, voting rights would be gone unless you’re an honorary member of the white supremacist, neonazi, KKK, radical rightwing extremest or a NRA member.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      You’re wacko too.

  • jim jones

    For the corrupt, term limits simply means that they will grab the goodies faster, it’s not the answer, more oversight and prosecutions of wrong doers is the way to go.

  • just me

    Look at what term limits have done. A new man comes in and makes new rules for his supporters and it screws other people. Then another new man comes in then helps those people. Law after law after law when it is so simple. We started this country with a set of rules but the man one is called FREEDOM. People were free to do anything as long as its not criminal. I would rather have law makers do nothing than to make dumb laws that we don’t need. Term limits are just for a certain people to get in to make more dumb rules.

  • Sink Chicken

    Why are my comments censored?

    • Joseph Carrilho

      I have to reload / refresh sometimes on this site. Try it.

  • R Monty

    GO FOR IT!! WHAT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR SO LONG, IS NOT WORKING NOW!! IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO SEE WHAT WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE!! SO IT IS TIME TO SHIFT THE BALANCE AND GET THE OLD THINKERS OUT AND NEW MINDS IN!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND DIS SERVICE ALSO!! GOOD BY!! HELLO NEWBIE!! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO DIFFERENT THAN HE DID?

  • Kevin James

    Term limits is a start but if we really want reform we need to get the law passed to where congress can pass no laws that do not apply to them. All of the BS programs they stuff down our throat as a fix. Take them off their cushy retirement and healthcare and force them to use Obamacare and social security and I would bet it wouldn’t take years to fix it or repeal it.

  • Star_Spangled_Eyes

    While you’re at it also add to the amendment that congress cannot exempt themselves from any law that they inflict on the citizens.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      β˜† β˜† β˜† β˜† β˜† Excellent thinking.
      All of those that voted for their “special privilege” are parasitic, hypocrites and
      they NEED to be exposed and thrown out of office.

  • jjmcl431

    i agree. with term limits you can prevent scum like Reid and Pelosi from spending their life screwing over our country and it’s people.

  • A_patriot

    It’s about time.

  • tryscavage

    We have ALWAYS needed Term Limits. I cant stand Senators and Congresswomen dressed in bright red cowgirl hats glorifying Woodrow Wilson as their favorite president. Nuts should only hold an elected job for one term and then banished from any political job forever but they should be offered jobs like rodeo clown or court jester.

    • A natural born American

      I believe he was our first ‘progressive’ Potus. And they’ve been trying to ‘pencil whip’ our Constitution ever since.

  • Larry

    should have happened a long time ago, then we would not have Harry Reid and John McCain, not to mention Nancy P

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Not to mention Diane Stupidstein, the big traitorous, wanna be gun grabber.

  • Joe Farnsworth

    Both House and Senate, Yeah,you got my vote!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sharr Lee

    They’re right…can’t believe I agree with Cruz on anything

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Cruz surprised me too.

  • Mike

    i am more liberal than many on this site and I don’t agree with Ted Cruz generally, but this should be bipartisan. we need term limits. what about th e supreme court? i don’t think anyone on the court now or who would be nominated this year but gong forward shouldn’t we have term limits there too? maybe 15 or 20 years?

  • Gisela H Fehr

    I hope I’ll live to see it: Term Limits, that would put to pasture such old and tired horses as McCain, Reid, and their ilk!

  • edw_jr

    Not sure term limits is the answer. Michigan has had limits for several yearsand things have only gotten worse. Legislators who are term limited seem to propose legislation that only helps keep their names alive so they can run for new positions when their present term is up. Still have the same people running the dog and pony show; they are just in a different position. Maybe experience in a job is a benefit. The losers can always be recalled and voted out.

  • Dennis

    The limits should be 4 years, 2 terms for senators and the 3 year 2 terms for representatives. There should also be that the only retirement they get is what they put into Social Security, no more. They are not royalty and work like everyone else. You are servants of the people and is an honor to serve your people. No lofty “golden parachute” retirement that equals your present salary. It is absurd to believe that even for one 4 year term of being a senator that you could make that much money every month in retirement. When the rest of the country is scrambling trying to keep their property and pay bills with Social security and MAYBE a small pension, you are making a killing off of those people for years and years. It is not right and is not acceptable. For all the damage that has been done to this country while the senate and the house sits on their hands and do nothing to stop it, then you should not have retirement at all and should not be in office for not doing your jobs!

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Excuse me, but your math is off.
      Two terms for senators = 12 years; way, WAY too long.

      • Dennis

        Notice I said SHOULD be.

  • Elizabeth Raynor Short

    Contact your Representative and Senators to support and vote this proposed amendment to the Constitution.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      They don’t listen to their constituents – that’s part of the problem.

  • skipsart

    Ain’t gonna happen originating from the federal government. They don’t want to restrict themselves. This will have to originate from the state with an Article V Convention of States. After the article V Convention of Sates, we need to repeal the 17th amendment and return the power of the Senate back to the states as intended by the Founding Fathers.

  • skipsart

    Don’t waste your time responding to the troll, AKLady.Shes; just a paid troll, probably for minimum wage too…….LOL !!!

  • Righteous Truth

    Help me understand the logic: We need Term Limits so we can get rid of the lousy Senators & Congresspeople that we elect into those positions.

    If we put them there in the first place, why can’t we “unput” them there in the second place?

    I know the gripes about INCUMBENTS and BIG MONEY and CRONYISM, etc., but isn’t the REAL problem the VOTERS? And, aren’t the voters known as We, the People?

    • Valor

      You are correct. McConnell recently stated “We already have term limits. They are called elections!” How is that working out? McConnell is set for life. No matter how onerous he, McCain, and other such cretins are, they keep getting re-elected. The real problem IS an apathetic electorate that continues to re-elect 80% of incumbents every election cycle. The biggest oxy-moron in the world is the term “Intelligence of the American Voter”. Otherwise, there would never have been a threat like Hillary considered. This push by Cruz and DeSantis is window dressing. There is no way in hell Congress will pass such an Amendment bill. No way they will limit themselves. It would require a 2/3 majority in both houses to send it to the states for ratification. Watch, the bill will never make it out of committee. The only possible way this can happen is by an Article V Convention of States. Also, opponents claim term limits would only increase the power of special interest groups. Excuse me? That is a really asinine statement. It would be the opposite,

      • Righteous Truth

        I agree – as Pogo said, “I have met the enemy and it is us!” (Valor, I’m an old guy who loved reading the funny papers as a kid. Pogo was my favorite!)

    • Joseph Carrilho

      Why is there a term limit on the POTUS then?

      • Righteous Truth

        Two simple reasons: 1.) the precedent set by George Washington – two terms is enough – we don’t elect kings (THAT George had just taken over ruling from King George) and 2.) as a frightened reaction to FDR’s 4 terms.

    • carl bebar sr.

      just the live ones

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    What a bunch of spiteful little boys. Now they want term limits? And let me guess…the spiteful little boys will keep Orin Hatch, McCain and the rest of the codgers of the GOP but term limits will be for the Dems only right control freaks?

    • Joseph Carrilho

      You are wacko.

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        I have it on the word of a clinical psychologist friend of mine, that mental cases like you and your fanatical religious and homegrown Rambo terrorists always think everyone else is a wacko. Can’t see your reflection in the mirror? No surprise there Treason boy.

        • Joseph Carrilho

          A clinical psychologist? No wonder you are wacko.

          Now go take your pharmaceutical poison, Wacko Woman.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Yes..he served as a clinical psychologist for the Navy. He is now retired. But he would be happy to prove you assholes have sanity issues. You vote for a president who found his wife in a Russian brothel, cleaned her up and paid his buddies at Hustler Magazine to pose her nude in some pretty disgusting poses with other women? But, you have the balls to say Hillary is gay? When Melania’s photos show her licking some woman’s twat?

            Sorry asshole. But you are now in league with the rest of your insane asshole who actually think you set foot outside your doors and mouth off that treasonous insanity and you won’t end up wishing you were never born.

        • Norman

          A clinical psychologist? You’ve seeing a shrink, Eleanore? For how long? You should demand a refund become your psychological therapy is NOT working.

          Projection: the unconscious ascription of a personal thought, feeling, or impulse, especially one considered undesirable, to somebody else.

          Children normally grow out of it by the time they are teenagers. However, projection afflicts radicals for life.

          That is why you radicals are so quick to call everyone who disagrees with you “racist”, “intolerant”, “sexist”, “deplorable”, etc.

          hilLIARy’s projection cost her the election because NORMAL AMERICANS (like ME) were sick of being called racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti-semitic, intolerable, and deplorable for NO reason.

          Then the post-election riots proved you hilLIARy-supporting radicals actually are “intolerable” and “deplorable”.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            First of all, you spiteful little boys want your asses beat? You’ll get it. Why did your Republicans suddenly decide to abolish the Ethics Board if not because you and your shitbaggers are GUILTY? Why pass House legislation violating 1st Amendment rights to protest on the Floor of Congress if you assholes are not GUILTY. Worse, these guilty little spiteful shitbaggers thought they’d get away with reducing the salaries to $1 of any government employee who doesn’t agree with their asshole policies. Guilt? You bet. Now, they are “certifying” that Trump is a legitimate president when you know both Ryan and McConnel are GUILTY of ignoring the Russians hacking?

            Here a great idea Normie…stop screwing your Mommy before your Daddy finds out. Stop trying to act as if you have ANY control over anything but your dick. Stop trying so hard to think you will tell others what to do.

            You won’t and you can’t. Now eat sit and die you moron.

          • Norman

            It’s always nice to hear from you, Eleanore. You always have such kind words.

            Did you get a refund yet for your psychological therapy that did NOT work?

    • Norman

      That’s a GREAT idea, Eleanore; the term limits should only be for demonicRATs, RINOs, and other radicals.

  • GrizzMann

    Term limits are in place now. they are called elections . They occur every two, four, and six years. Get good candidates and a good believable message.

  • Joseph Carrilho

    About time for term limits on these castrated eunuchs.

  • HankBar

    The Pols are already planning how to steal more quickly just in case ( it will never Happen ) term limits are adopted.

  • whisper

    DO IT NOW

  • Barney Biggs

    More important to your political system if you want to make it really work is to pass legislation to eliminate lobbyists. In many countries it is illegal to have a lobbyist and there are laws to counter influence peddling.
    You have a whole industry dedicated to lobbying and influencing your politicians. Wining and dining, vacations etc. Saudi is good at that.

    • Joseph Carrilho

      β˜† β˜† β˜† β˜† β˜† BINGO!!! What these parasites do is BRIBERY and nothing else.

      It’s way past time for some major house cleaning.

    • Barney Biggs

      In some places like Canada a lobbyist has to register as a lobbyists for whatever they are doing which becomes public information, which includes what they are lobbying for as well as there is a 5 year prohibition on any politician preventing lobbying by that politician after leaving the elected position.
      They are not allowed to lobby or influence any elected official or Gov. worker.
      They have a Commissioner and system to ensure compliance.

  • Barney Biggs

    Here is the other side of the coin. I spent 35 years in quasi Gov. job subject to the whims of elected officials.
    We would have a newly elected person from one political stripe or another and they were going to do this or that to change things. Knowing very little about how the system worked. It would take a year or two (depending on how bright they were) for them to truly understand the consequences of what they were proposing and a year or so to start to get things done before the next election. Start all over again.

  • glenn398

    Think they should change congress from 2 year to 4 year terms because as soon as they are elected it is close to getting ready for the next election. Why our forefathers ever set up such a difference between the senate and congress if beyond me. Congress is also set up as a democracy as it is mob rule but the senate up set up like a true republic like congress should have been.

  • Jean Langford M.

    THIS IS AMAZING..I JUST PRAY GOD THEY GET THIS DONE…THEN REPEAL A $HIT LOAD OF RAI$E$……

  • abc__jps

    Come on guys we need term limits. No were does it say its a life time job. Some of those guys have never had a outside working job. TERM LIMITS are needed

  • Lee Alan Bartholomew

    an idea started by a Democrat takes off by the Republicans. Awkward but hey Wellstone was well liked by both sides πŸ™‚ Wellstone and his supporters have been pushing for years and finally might get somewhere. Hard to move fake Democrats to do it. Real Democrats or Republicans you might have a chance. But fake ones owe their allegiance only to being re elected. Not to the people.

  • RsGoat

    How will term limits help if our Senator’s have no connection to their State Government’s? Our Federal Government is constantly passing laws the State’s do not or can not financially support and why is this? Our politicians don’t talk to each other and those in Washington live in the D.C. Area learning their values leaving our’s behind, forgetting who we are and how we feel!!!!! Term limits will still leave them disconnected and as they develop those Washington values how will our State Government’s pull them back from bad choices? Striking down the 17th amendment will achieve both goals. We have a popularly elected rep recently in the House, that is our Federal person. The Senator was always meant to represent the State Government’s at the Federal level but the 17th amendment co-opted this

  • db

    If there are any limits, it should be determined by the State, each and every state that sends a representative to Washington as their representative. It is not up to FED government to determine what the PEOPLE want! THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED THE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! The Founders knew and addressed this situation and it has worked for over 200 years! We are taking the choice away from the PEOPLE again by imposing these ‘nice sounding solutions’ to a problem that does not exist. It is the responsibility of each state and the people’s therein, to send their representative to Washington and if that representative is doing a good job, let him or her continue. But if not, LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE AND VOTE THAT PERSON OUT! It’s not up to ANYONE BUT THE PEOPLE!

  • Manuel Gonzales

    Not only term limits on the Legislative body but the Judicial branch as well. A good 10 years per term for each I would think and the right for all Americans to VOTE for the judicial nominees. This thing of Presidents getting one of their own to get things done his/her way has got to stop. Too much liberal personal ideals will destroy our Republic.
    And all laws and rules that apply to typical Americans should also apply to “EVERY” American regardless of standing in society. This thing about Obama care only for the peasant was “not cool”!!
    I say go for it!!

  • snowyriver

    Please help me here.. From our Constitution… No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained the age of thirty years and been nine years a citizen of the United States… Now please Ted, I know you were born in Canada with both parents as citizens of Canada at the time of your birth.. Show me please your nationalization papers for citizenship in the United States.. I know you have renounced your Canadian citizenship.. Are you a man without a nation?

    • Barney Biggs

      His Mother was American living in Canada and married to a Cuban born oil man.
      By your laws that made him with dual citizenship I am told. American and Canadian citizenships and he renounced his Canadian. Just technical issue.

      • snowyriver

        His mother had applied for and received Canadian citizenship.. Canada did not allow dual citizenship.. Sorry. Applying for and receiving Canadian citizenship meant renouncing all former citizenship.

        • Barney Biggs

          Sorry I live here and have for over 76 years and you are wrong. Many of my friends have had dual for many many decades.

          • snowyriver

            Check your laws at the time Ted Jr. was born… Thank you

          • Barney Biggs

            Did and while they restricted there were many cases where they allowed dual citizenship and people were not required to renounce and children born to foreign citizens or those with dual citizenship could and often did have dual. My friend who is 73 on Sunday has been a dual since mid 60s.
            Restricted but not prevented.

          • snowyriver

            I am from Missouri… SHOW ME.. the case of the Mr, and Mrs Cruz, where they were allowed dual citizenship… Doesn’t matter anyway Ted Jr. was born out of the States with at least one parent that was not a US citizen.. Thus he is not eligible to be our president..

            Lets look at our Constitution. Reading (now consider yourself a patriot that just overcame a tyrannical government) You come to article 1, section 8, clause, paragraph 10. Congress shall have the power to define and punish offences against The Law of Nations.. Maybe we better read The Law of Nations to see just what power our new Congress has.. So we read The Law of Nations. Pay special attention in book 1, chapter 19, article 212.. After we finish The Law of Nations, we go back to reading the Constitution. Coming to article III, section 1, paragraph 4, we read that no person except a “natural born Citizen” of the United States shall be eligible for the office of president. Didn’t we read what a “natural born Citizen” was in The Law of Nations? Yes — “born on the land with parents as citizens”.. Note parents and citizens are both plural. Here we have a problem.

  • richardcancemi

    Term limits is a necessity if we are ever going to begin to get serious about ending political corruption and draining the swamp!

  • MAD

    I agree we need term limits . People of Congress should get the same retirement plan that we the tax payers get after all we pay them

  • Barney Biggs

    This is not an argument for not limiting terms but something to consider. If you limit it to two 4 year terms, what kind of person would you get to run for office?
    Would it be logical for a Dr., Lawyer, Engineer etc., or other brighter people with careers, to put their careers and lives on hold for 8 years often at the height of their careers to run for office?
    Then come back home and try and restart a career, practice and lives all over again.
    Today in 8 years the world, professions and society have changed so much as to make that almost impossible.
    Not many would do that.

    • carl bebar sr.

      we have to get rid of the crooks in congress the only way is term limits this way money won’t buy votes

      • Barney Biggs

        I am not an American and do not live in the US. I only partially agree but not that it is the ONLY way of getting rid of the crooks. Cutting out lobbyists would be a better start, cutting out all the freebies would be second making them have to be taking the same programs and systems as the rest of you (health care etc.).
        I think these would have a better impact on the crooks who are only there to milk the system than ONLY cutting terms.

  • IgnoreTheFools

    Trump has woke the beast, term limits Rule

  • Elizabeth Raynor Short

    Definitely won’t if you don’t speak up. If you don’t, then stop complaining.

  • Richard Daugherty

    This is going to happen one way or the other. We are also moving forward with Convention of States. The check is in the mail folks.

  • WORK ON MORE TRUMP SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN IN 2018. ONE TERM PER TERMITE.
    IF YOU ARE A BIBLE PERSON AND A DEMON CRAT GET OUT OF THE PARTY OF DEATH. GO INDY GO TRUMP.

  • daveveselenak

    They shouldn’t be needed but because nearly half of the nation has been dumbed-down, drugged-up, brainwashed and PC bullied you can’t count on the sheeple doing the right thing and voting such treacherous bastards as Manchurian Candidate “McShame” and his side-kick “Graham-Crack-er” out of office! These two RINO’s are trying to start WW III, unfortunately term limits are a must!

  • Marby Shivwitz

    No retirement but a 6 month severance pay would be adequate for departing officials. That along with the term limits and having the same healthcare options as all other govt. employees is what elected officials should be afforded, nothing else.

  • Michael Dennewitz

    We’d see better results if “we” limited their freeloading terms to TWO years for ALL of them!! And I’d love to see them being forced to take the same retirements that you and I have been forced to accept! 😣

  • mike slaney

    Term limits, YES, and no Retirements or Benefits, after leaving, unless injured badly in the line of duty!

  • Hilly

    Term limits? HELL YES!

  • ErnieLane

    There is a 0% chance Congress will pass term limits. The _only_ way to get them is for a Convention of States to do it. Things a COS does — if enough States get on board — can’t be turned down by Congress.

    And I would much prefer having nothing but “newbies” in Congress, actual citizen legislators, than professional politicians.

  • JC

    We been waiting for years to have term limits. The politicians grooved in there rear age marks from sitting on there ass doing nothing in government for the people that gave the politicians a voice. But the people have been ignored. Remove those that obstruct justice in the New president Donald Trump administration comes January 20,2017 The democrats will be against this president till his term is expired.

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  • ONE TERM PER TERMITE. UNO TERMINO POR TERMITA

  • Restore the original intent to have Senators elected by and responsible to the state legislatures. That gives state citizens more power than if, as now, they vote directly for careet politicians. The founding fathers really had a much better idea than the socialists who pushed for direct voting on senators. This can be accomplished by Atricle V in the Constitution: http://www.conventionofstates.com/

  • Sandy0

    REEEALLY BAD IDEA!
    We Floridians and the FL legislature has suffered under Term Limits enacted a few years ago:

    It robbed the legislature of mature, seasoned legislators and replaced them with the Young Turks who were pushed into making all the graft they could As Soon as they could, before they were termed out. Plenty of facts on those.

  • Howard A Milor Jr.

    Good the American people want that!!

  • Susan Short

    I’ve often said that I’d love to go before Congress and ask those spoiled, corrupt azzholes this question. Can you people give me one good reason why you should be able to become a senator, or a representative, in your 30’s, and die in the job when you’re 90?1 It is SENSELESS! Those who defend it will say that they can always be voted out of office, which happens sometimes, but not very often! Can you imagine Schumer, or Durbin, or Pelosi, etc. etc. getting voted out?! It will never happen, and the longer they are in office, the more corrupt they become! I live in the Toledo, Ohio area, and I’ve often said that Jesus Christ could be running against Marcy Kaptur, and Marcy would win!

  • cathleen trainor

    This would be great, just a long as it is not fake news. After I fact-check, I’ll get back to you.

  • annmariecunningham

    We have term limits. It is called the vote. What we need is redistricting done by non-political,.
    equitable persons. We need to stop the gerrymandering done by both parties.

  • Deplorable JD

    Don’t stop there!! We have quite a few little nuggets we should put on the agenda boys! We have four years to make certain that we never again have to steal our country’s future out of the jowls of the globalist rat-bastard ass hats!
    Get out of our pockets, get out of our schools, get out of my doctor’s office, Fedzilla needs a trim. No, Fedzilla needs pared way the hell back. It’s a horrible sign that the largest employer in America, is the government. Oh vey!!!

  • Norman

    Don’t stop there!! Republicans should push for a Constitutional amendment TO SUPPLEMENT the 2nd Amendment that makes it UNQUESTIONABLY CLEAR that citizens have the right to own firearms while the good guys control the Congress and most of the state legislatures.

  • will

    no way Cruz is a dictator – term limits is not negotable

    • John Doe

      And just please tell me where you get the idea that term limits are not negotiable. In the constitution, if you’ve ever read it actually calls for people to serve (originally without pay) as service to their country. Try reading the individual books on our founding fathers. John Adams for example, had a very successful law firm, he left his wife, Abigail for several years, visiting once or twice per year to go to our capital at the time in Philadelphia, They were to serve their new country out of duty, but only for a certain time. (Also, what does the word negotable mean ?

  • GuardianFlame

    Justin and ernldo — RIGHT ON! TIME for the American federal govt to work for the American people, not we work for them while they fill their pockets with our hard earned money! If Congress has to accept the Medical programs they vote in for Americans, you can bet it will be a better program if they have to use it!

    Is there any way to get rid of the old useless driftwood that fills our Senate and House of Representatives right now – like CA’s Nancy Pelosi who hasn’t a brain in her head? Those idiots in Cali voted her back into office. OMG. California is full of ignoramouses – definitely a worthless state!

  • setemfree

    How about we fix health care, with a certain percent of everyone including corporations pay a certain percentage of there wages, Say five percent, strait acrossed the board. Lets get everyone, including millionaires and the people that make ten thousand a year. Also corporations would also have to pay the five percent even though they will never have anyone sick. There board members would pay, there employees would pay, these movie stars, that makes millions on just making one movie, and how about the sport people, that makes millions, football and baseball players. 5% will not hurt anyone. Yes even the ones that get social security 5%. You get welfare 5%. Corporation that makes 10 billion a year 5%. factory worker that makes 25 thousand 5%. Now eliminate all illegals. they are not paying anything, why should they get free and the rest of us have to pay. Deport all illegals. Free health care to everyone all paid for.

  • Walter Flatt

    TERM LIMITS WITH A MIN OF 5 DAY WORK WEEK AND 2 WEEKS VACATION AND HAVE TO LIVE IN WASHINGTON.

    PRAY THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN, BUT GET READY, PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP, BE VERY CAREFUL, WE HAVE WORKED TO HARD TO LOSE YOU NOW. DONT JUST LIKE, SHARE, SHARE, SHARE.

    FROM A KOREAN WAR VET 51/53, A REG. DEM. ALL MY LIFE, BUT I VOTED FOR TRUMP & WILL NEVER VOTE DEM AGAIN AS LONG AS THIS LYING CROOKED MESS IS IN D.C. SHARE, SHARE, SHARE.

    OBAMA HAS GIVEN BILLIONS OF OUR TAX MONEY TO RADICAL MUSLIMS TRYING TO KILL US.

    DONT JUST LIKE THIS SEND IT TO ALL YOU KNOW AND TO EVERY ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS. WE MAY BE IN FOR SOME ROUGH TIMES.

    I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR A TRY AT A MUSLIM INVASION OF THIS COUNTRY BY, HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY, SORROS AND THE BIASED MEDIA. READ ALL THE WHYS BELOW.

    IF YOU READ ALL THE BELOW YOU MIGHT WAKE UP. IF YOU ARE FOR THE BELOW, THEN YOU ARE TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA.

    WHY ISN’T A LAW BEING ENFORCED BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY. THIS LAW WAS PASSED IN 1952.

    WHY DO YOU THINK ANYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE IS LEGAL, HE HAS CONFESSED TO BEING A MUSLIM ON NATION WIDE TV. EVERYTHING HE HAS SIGNED, OR ORDERED IN 8 YEARS IS ILLEGAL.

    WHY HAS HILLIARY HAD A MUSLIM FROM A RADICAL FAMILY AS HER TOP AIDE FOR 10 YEARS, HUMA COULD BE A PERFECT PIPELINE TO PASS SECRETS TO THE MUSLIM WORLD.

    WHY HAS OBAMA SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH MUSLIMS ANOTHER PERFECT PIPELINE TO PASS SECRETS. HE HAS DECLARED HIMSELF A MUSLIM ON NATIONWIDE TV.

    WHY DOES THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA SAY HE IS NOT A MUSLIM, WHEN I HAVE A LIST OF WHERE 34 TIMES HE HAS EITHER HELPED THEM OR SAID HE WAS ONE.

    WHY GET MAD AT PUTIN, HE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO PLACE IN RUSSIA FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT FOLLOW THEIR LAW AND SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A COUNTRY THAT DID.

    WHY HAS HILLIARY, OBAMA, KERRY AND THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO HELP THE RADICAL MUSLIMS.

    WHY DID THIS ADMINSTRATION TRY AND BUY UP ALL AMMO?

    WHY TRADE 5 TERRIOST FROM CUBA FOR ONE TRAITOR?

    WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNS? HITLER DID, & HISTORY TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

    WHY ALLOW A MINIMUM OF 36 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE STATES? MOST CLOSE TO MILITARY BASES. I PERSONALLY VERIFIED THE ONES IN SHAWNEE NATIONAL PARK, IN IL. AND THE ONE AT DOVEER, TN. AND THE FEMA CAMP IN EAST KY.

    WHY ARE THERE 5 MUSLIM CAMPS IN N. VIRGINIA, CLOSE TO DC? ARE THEY TO TAKE WASHINGTON?

    WHY BUILD A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE, AT TAX PAYERS EXPENSE, WITH ARMED GUARDS? ARE THEY TO HOLD MUSLIMS?

    WHY ARE THEY BRINGING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MUSLIMS HERE?

    WHY IS THE TAX PAYER HAVING TO FEED, CLOTH & HOUSE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF MUSLIMS BEING BROUGHT HERE?

    WHY GIVE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS BROUGHT IN FREE HEALTH CARE, SPENDING THOUSANDS FOR HOSPITAL CARE?

    WHY ARE THE ILLEGALS BEING TREATED BETTER THAN OUR VETERANS.

    WHY STOP THE TANK AND PLANE SHIPPMENT TO EGYPT, WHEN THEIR ARMY KICKED THE RADICALS OUT?

    WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HELP THE RADICALS IN IRAN, A COUNTRY OUT TO DESTROY US?

    WHY ARE WE SENDING BILLIONS TO ARAB COUNTRIES, AND LETING OUR COUNTRY GO TO POT?

    WHY DONT THEY ENFORCE THE LAW BARRING ALL MUSLIMS FROM THIS COUNTRY? PRAY THAT TRUMP WILL DO THIS.

    WHY IS THE MUSLIM MAJOR IN TEXAS LIVING THAT KILLED 14 SOLDIERS AND WOUNDED A LOT MORE?

    WHY ARE THEY RELEASING ALL MUSLIMS IN CUBA TO GO BACK INTO ACTION TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS?

    WHY DONT WE HANG ALL MUSLIMS CAUGHT AND BURY THEM WITH PIG PARTS, LIKE GENERAL PERSHING DID IN THE PHILLIPENS? HE STOPPED A MUSLIM UPRISING BY DOING JUST THAT.

    WHY WAS OBAMA ALLOWED TO SWEAR IN CARLOYN WALKER AS JUDGE IN BROOKLIN USING THE QURAN?

    WHY ALLOW ILLEGALS TO FLOOD OUR COUNTRY WHEN THEY COST MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR.

    WHY SEND BILLIONS TO MUSLIM COUNTRIES TRYING TO KILL US.

    YOU SAY THAT A MUSLIM TRY AT A TAKEOVER IS IMPOSSIBLE, I CAN TAKE 100 WELL ARMED PEOPLE AND TAKE ANY BASE IN 1 HOUR, OUR TROOPS ARE NOT ARMED.

    BETTER COAT ALL YOU AMMO WITH PIGS BLOOD OR GREASE, LET THE WORLD KNOW YOU ARE DOING SO.

    THE LAST WHY, WHY DONT THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA REPORT ALL THIS??? COULD THEY NOT BE FOR THE INVASION”

    TRUMP IS NOW THE PRESIDENT, SO, GET ON BOARD AND HELP HIM STRAIGHTEN THIS MESS OUT.

    SHARE. SHARE, SHARE. I HAVE A LOT MORE FACTS IF ANYONE WANTS THEM.

  • Melody

    I agree with term limits. Serving our country in politics was not supposed to be a career. It needs to go back to what it was meant to be. I believe this should include all Federal judges and the Supreme Court judges. One is over 90, seriously, is that appropriate. All judges should serve term limits. All politicians need to understand that the position in the voted into is to serve the people, not themselves. They also need to abide by all the laws that we as American citizens have to, and to receive the same benefits that we do. No special nothing for the.

  • MASTERMECH

    Ignorance abounds. Ted Cruz should know better. Our Constitution was written such that it forces the population to get involved and educated on candidates. VOTING! “IS” the method of TERM LIMITS. It is up to we the people to vote out the bad representatives, WE THE PEOPLE. WE DESERVE the GOVERNMENT WE VOTE IN!!!! Term Limits supports complacency. Check out “CONSTITUTION 101” from Hillsdale College. Good education and VERY interesting. I’m doing it and I’m 69.

    • Deplorable Lanie

      Yes but not everyone gets educated on the candidates. I live in a small town, where the Mayor has been the mayor forever (at least 25 years). Now this mayor is a waste of good time. Our taxes have gone up and our services have gone down. Snowplowing and removal is great if you live on a street where the Mayor or the council lives but otherwise forget it. So last term a person ran who had the qualifications, education and most of all the drive. Now I campaigned for this person and thought they had a chance but no. And it was mainly the older people (I am 51). They said things like “The Mayor has been doing a good job” or “He has been the Mayor for a long time, so he knows what he is doing” and on and on. Anyway the point is that sometimes it is not the politician that is the problem, sometimes it’s the voters. My own Aunt and Uncle would not even think about voting for someone else. UNLESS they were forced too, by term limits. πŸ™‚

  • Ellen

    Term limits would be great. Some politicians have been in their seats for years and years and not doing anything anymore. Except just being there or continue to look out for the ILLEGALS so they will be elected over and over again. Pushovers and traitors to our country.

  • Woodgnome49

    It is high time WE the PEOPLE took back our government and started over. Lets go off the deep end. Minimum wage for all elected offices Military doctors and health care for public office. Our vets. deserve the best this country can offer. If the politicians have to use it watch how fast it becomes the best in the world.
    Government service is not a job everyone should want to do. The positions are important and should be filled by those best able to do them. I see no way to avoid the greedy and corrupt with out removing the money and perks. How Say you???

  • Mark Tercsak

    Before we discuss Term Limits Folks, We need to under stand were the Founding Father’s and the Framer’s of Our Constitution , came from , in their life time they began life as English Subject’s or at least they thought they were and then they were told they were less then, each colony had a legislative body and court system and a Governor.

    These colonies decided to meet and to discuss their relation ship and later their union with the English Empire.

    Each Colony Legislative Body elected Delegates based on the Colonies Population, but each colony would have but one vote. This delegate body formed our first Congress, known as a Unicameral Congress one Legislative Body and this body represented The Colonial Legislative Bodies, they did not represent “We The People”, at this point.

    Our colonial congress when they met in 1774 formed more than just a Congress, they ended forming a Government The Created the Office of President of the Territories Of The United States, term in office was one Year, The Delegates elected fellow delegate Payton Randolph as the First President of The United States Of America..

    The Unicameral Congress continued on after the American Was of Independence and the creation of our Second national Government under the Articles of Confederation.

    The Founder’s soon realized our Nation was two weak in some way’s.

    We must guard against that.

    But the Founder’s also feared one person or entity having to much power or to much leverage, that is why they created checks and balances.

    This is the area of concern see in the Unicameral Congress either the Colonial Legislative Bodies and Later The State Legislatures were the only ones represented.

    The Founder’s came to see the unicameral congress it’s self as being dangerous!

    Thus when drafting the Constitution the Founder’s moved away from a unicameral Congress.
    They Created a Bicameral Congress , meaning two Legislative Bodies, thus Separation of Powers.

    Each Legislative Body was given distinct powers.

    Under Article V at the end The states were granted suffrage (the right to vote) in the Congress, Senators are nothing more than Ambassadors of our Respective States Legislatures and from 1787 to 1913 were elected under Article I, Section 3; Of The United States Constitution, not by “We The People, but by Our Respective State Legislatures, Whom We elected too Office.

    We no longer have a Bicameral Congress, along with Our Respective States, “We The People” have also lost control over the body that is supposed to represent us. THe United States House Of Representatives.

    Most people have been lied to and mislead and conned into believing the Senators represent us directly, that in not constitutionally true. and never was…..

    How do we fix the Congress and Restore our Constitutional Representative Republic?

    1st oppose any Amendments coming from Congress it’s self.

    Contact Your States Houses and demand a Convention of the States

    Demand Repeal of the 17th Amendment an Unconstitutional Amendment , because it violates Article V of the Constitution, which can not be Amended.

    Restore Article I, Section 3; Of The United States Constitution.

  • ToniStimmel

    The real problem is not term limits so much as the seniority system and the autocratic power of the Congressional party leaders to reward and punish party members. Members of the Congress are elected by their people, financed by their Party, and paid by their Government so is it any wonder when they don’t represent their voters who are the lowest on their totem poles?

    If we’re going to go to the trouble of amending the Constitution at least do it to solve a problem not just outlaw a symptom. Most all of the problems in the Federal Government are caused by mostly dishonorable men holding elected positions which the Founding Fathers designed to be held by mostly honorable men.

  • Richard Daugherty

    The term limits must be of a much shorter duration. We don’t want them to get comfortable. We need a more diverse congress not just lawyers.Everyday people need to become involved. People who are truly in touch with what is going on. This is the only way we can take care of these problems.We will need Convention of States. The power needs to come back State side.

  • sensrbtch

    term limits is too vote! the GOP does not need to open a convention, because it cum bak and bite them in the ass! they could t git the ethlick committee to heel, so; what makes them think they caqn do a convention. don’t stik it in if it don’t fit!

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  • TomMcCorkill

    I have long advocated for Congressional term limits. However, an amendment alos needs to include provision for restricting the unlimited benefits the Congress seems to grant themselves, such as retirement, health benefits, travel, and remaining on the payroll during days in which they are devoting time to political action (re-election). Further, it should impose a life-time limit on service. It needs to be acted on quickly so State Legislatures have an opportunity to pass it during their current (20117) sessions.

  • hum4me

    yes, the time is way beyond its real conflict, my first sign was Senator Ted Kennedy, hadway too many years in the system and had way too many connections to pass whatever he damn well wanted, to benefit his pockets, as well as his favorite costumer whoever that may be, a term limit is a must, but the term aet on this article are still too long for my comfort.

  • Bella Gray

    The problem we have is that the Communist Democrats ran for Republican seats and won those seats under false flags. What is to stop them from further infiltrating? Go to NumbersUSA and look under “grade cards” and the states. You will easily see what officials are working for foreigners AGAINST Americans. Look at Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and you will see a traitor. He goes on TV shows always talking like he is an authority in what is right, yet he is betraying America.

  • curmudgeon VN Veteran

    That would go a long way into giving some credence back into government. Currently politicians and lawyers are lower than sewer water.

  • Pam

    We need federal term limits to start with, worry about local later. It’s a start. No politicians should make a career because they lose site of what they were elected to do. Then it all starts being about getting re-elected and job security at all cost. That includes lying, cheating and stealing. We won’t even mention the onset of God complex.

  • Cheryl Heberle

    Term limits should be imposed so people do not become so proud of themselves that they think they are the only one that can do the job!

  • Deplorable Lanie

    I too think that term limits are necessary. For one, it makes sure that the people we elect are interested in doing what the people want instead of getting along to go along. Then I think, that the elected representative will be more interested in getting things done quicker if they know they only have so long to get it done. They will be more motivated then willing to “wait until next term”. Besides when you are new, you are much more aggressive and motivated, the longer you are there the more you become complacent and will say “oh that is just how things go, we can’t really change anything”. I know that some people say we can’t put term limits in, but how do we know unless we try? Right now, they are scared of term limits because it is new, but let’s give it a try – see what happens -it could be great!

  • Jimmy Page

    In a Republic that exists to reconcile the realty of administration and coordination of public policy; term limits impose a state, creates a condition and presupposes a reality already provided for…in effect-not CONSTITUTIONAL…

  • David Basto

    They should also have to disclose their net worth when they enter office and when they leave and have to explain any gains to an ethics committee,

  • mholdcraft

    This is an amendment to support! No more career politicians who focus more on reelection than the needs of the people. Let people serve and then go home to live with the decisions they made while in Washington. No more life retirement after serving just a few years – get rid of retirement from Congress totally. This is one that should also apply to the President. No retirement with a Federal paycheck for the rest of your life. You get paid for time served and that’s it. After this we can work on getting rid of lobbyists too. Drain the swamp bone dry!

  • David in MA

    All this from a Canadian citizen who is in America illegally and is a senator illegally, no?, then why did Cruz hide all his documents like Obama did? Cruz is, even if YOU disagree, a Canadian citizen (and always has been) who came to America as an exchange student and just stayed, (just like Obama’s daddy and the Indonesian adopted Obama himself), and with the lax immigration enforcement at the time, Cruz quietly and illegally assumed the status of American citizen.
    Ted, where is the birth certificate and papers from Canada which shows your parents filed on you to take American citizenship, none?, to bad, your a Canadian, dual citizenship? Nope, not recognized by Canada at the time, sorry but your not an American citizen……. Ted, your a Canadian and should be arrested, jailed and eventually deported.

  • Jim Owens

    To everyone, the subject is turm-limits for Polititions.

    Making changes to the United States Constitution opens it up not only for the turm-limits but allows the liberals the opportunity to make changes to any part including the 2nd Amendment.

    We cannot push for a Constitutional amendment process. The liberals are conmen. We must not allow the liberals any opportunity to make changes to The United States Constitution. Remember Cruz did not back Trump during the Ellection even though he claimed to be a Republican, so we cannot trust anyone that is a career Politition.

    Do you really beleave any Politition is going to give up any part of their privileges they have given themselves over the years. Their retirement package allows for them to get paid full pay for the rest of their lives even if they serve only one turn in office so they don’t care how long they serve they’ll get paid no matter what.

    What company pays an employee full pay after they fire them? When a Politition is not reelected they have been fired. Why then are they getting paid anything once out of office? Not only do turn limits need to be set but also there should be no bennefits once out of office. Think of how much money is being paid by your taxes to every expolitition who no longer is in office. If they are not disabled and can work a normal job then they don’t need a retirement program.

  • dhartley231 .

    Term limits like either 2 or maybe 4 years is long enough for any criminal to be in office NO longer. A term limit of 6 or 12 years is not an acceptable term limit . After leaving office NO LOBBYING PERIOD POLICY

    should come into play also , you are out !!!

  • Diane Marshall

    Good pass it today to many lifer’s a corrupt.

  • StoreHouse Church

    We can do even better THREE 2 year terms for House & ONE 6 year term for the Senate..

  • RsGoat

    Repeal the 17th amendment giving State’s their voice back might do more. This way Senator’s will be beholden to the State government’s and should they forget who they represent the State can recall them like they would an ambassador. The Senator’s would be voting according to what State budget’s could afford instead of overburdening them on a whim. I would be good for them to live in our State instead of becoming saturated in the D.C. culture and forgetting how the people in their Sate’s actually feel on subjects. To represent a State a person must know how it stands and be in touch with the people.

  • Una termina por termita. ONE TERM PER TERMITE. THE ONLY LOBBY IN A TRUMP HOTEL.