ABC News Says Confiscation is the Key to Stopping Gun Violence


Even the most liberal of liberal Democrats in Washington, D.C. will go out of their way to tell Americans that they have no interest – NONE – in going into people’s homes and taking away their guns. That’s just NRA conspiracy nonsense, don’t you know? No one actually wants to do that, even if we do spend an inordinate amount of time talking about Australia’s success with their own mass confiscation scheme. But no, no, we’re big defenders of the Second Amendment over here in the Democratic Party. We just want commonsense solutions like universal background checks, guyz. That’s all! We promise!

But then you get laws that they recently passed in places like California, Oregon, Washington, and Connecticut that show the lie behind the denials. Because while those states have not begun implementing anything quite so drastic as widespread mandatory buybacks, they have passed laws that allow guns to be confiscated from law-abiding citizens with no more than a judge’s order. No due process needed. All that’s necessary is the word of a friend or family member, a judge’s sign-off, and presto-chango, you lose your guns for a while. And if you take ABC News’s word for it, this is exactly the kind of law we need to roll out nationwide.

“One relatively unknown tool for stopping gun violence may soon get a lot more attention,” they write. “An Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) empowers family members and police to take guns away from a person who may pose a danger to themselves or others. The person’s access to firearms is blocked until they can demonstrate that the risk is over. Essentially, ERPOs are a temporary restraining order for guns.”

Until they can demonstrate that the risk is over?

Well, that’s certainly up for some debate, now isn’t it? How does one demonstrate that “the risk” is over? How does one prove they are no longer in a homicidal state of mind? How does one prove a state of mind to begin with? We’re talking about suspending a person’s constitutional rights using concepts that are scientifically questionable and legally unacceptable.

ABC News goes on to interview those rascally gun-grabbers at Everytown for Gun Safety to get a nice, balanced view of the issue.

“While it is impossible to determine how many of the recent shooting tragedies ERPOs could have prevented, they could have provided at least another layer of protection,” said Everytown’s deputy legal director, William Rosen. “Mass shooters often display warning signs before they carry out their attacks, and ERPO provides an opportunity for family members or law enforcement to intervene before a tragedy occurs.”

So here we have Chief Abolish Guns himself admitting that we really have no idea if these ERPOs actually do anything, but hey, they make us feel a lot better. And we can use weasel words like “often” to make our case about mass shootings and no one can really hold us accountable.

Well, that’s great, but we’re going to need a little bit more than your word for it before we start grabbing guns all over the place because Aunt Francine thinks her nephew Bobby is too unhinged to have a firearm for his personal protection. If that’s all it takes to get around the Second Amendment then we don’t HAVE a Second Amendment.

  1. chucky001 says

    I’m all for protecting the 2nd Amendment, but if Aunt Francine thinks nephew Bobby is becoming unhinged, isn’t it better to err on the side of caution? If the wife of Devin P Kelly had spoken up, or Paddocks girlfriend had spoken up, perhaps those massacres could have been avoided. These NRA pukes are acting like someone is trying to cut off their little johnsons whenever someone proposes common sense gun laws that would result in a bit of inconveinience for gun owners. I understand the basis for the 2nd amendment, so that citizens would be able to defend themselves against a tyrannical govt, but while that made sense back in the 1700’s, do you think your AR-15 would be any match against a drone, tank, helicopter gunship, or a navy seal? Get real, deplorables. Your guns are good for hunting game, self defence against a burglar, or shooting up a church, but useless against the authorities.

    1. Bill O'Neil says

      Exactly right!!!

      1. ABO says

        Yet another brainless liberal moron joins the fray.

    2. Retired says

      As Usual you puke out a bunch of garbage , the Anti gun lobby want to remove all Semi Auto long guns , which would include your Shotgun .These nut cases would just go to making pipe bombs or anything else that would kill people . Did you already forget about the Rental Truck .

      1. gotabgood says

        So your logic is… if you can’t stop it ALL……….. don’t do nothing….

        1. Retired says

          No, someone screwed up on this last nut case and it goes back many decades ago to put the mentally ill on the streets . The media pukes out BS about this Clown before they have all the facts and as to who is at fault How many Criminals actually buy a gun legally ????

          1. gotabgood says

            Someone screwed up alright… Donald Trump.

            I have noticed something about you, you never start a conversation, which means you don’t have any original thoughts. You just jump in with your one liners… slip a few choice names into the mix and then label who ever it is your talking to.. and then you smile to yourself as a job well done.


          2. Retired says

            Donald was not even in the picture with this nut cake .It’s not that I don’t start them the moderators move them around just like yours . What do you call all the weekend shootings in major Cities like NYC -Miami – Chicago- Atlanta to name just a few of the long list

          3. gotabgood says

            Those are not mass shootings.
            And Donald Trump is very much in the corner with this shooter… He gave him a clean bill of (mental) health.

          4. Retired says

            Last weekend 30 got shot in Chicago a record for a cold and wet weekend , just because they were not all in the same building you exclude them . You are sick .

          5. gotabgood says

            I exclude them from mass shootings at the hands of one maniac!
            ALL shootings are bad. Using your figure 30 were shot. do you think gun control laws could have stopped one of them, wouldn’t that one life be worth it? Suppose that one life was close to you, now would it be worth it?
            Guns whole purpose for existence is to kill. depending on the type of gun you use will dictate what it was designed for. A pistol is to kill humans, All types of auto-semi-auto were designed to kill humans. You don’t even buy one of them to go elephant hunting… if you can still hunt them.

          6. Retired says

            Chitcago has the strictest gun laws , so how are they working out ,just like WDC ???? WDC ,half the shootings don’t even make the news !!! It is the same with tourist towns YOU ARE JUST PLAIN NUTS .Cars and Trucks pollute the AIR which causes health problems and deaths so lets ban them , they kill people daily

          7. gotabgood says

            Ahhh so you do know that cars and trucks pollute the air…. also power plants… which does cause illnesses and death…. and yes let’s do ban them or clean them up.. or better still replace them with clean energy.
            If your back yard was filled with all kinds of deadly snakes, lions and bears… would you want to have a BBQ in your back yard or would you avoid it? How about cleaning it up? Getting rid of the deadly things???

            As for Chicago and other large cities.. as long as there are humans there will be killings…. there were only 4 in the Garden of Eden, and one was a murderer.
            You people have this attitude if it don’t stop it all then it is worthless, so don’t do anything. Like I said, if it can save one life, say your child, isn’t it worth the effort?

          8. Retired says

            Hell yes I would have a BQ as a member of PETA [ people eating tasty animals ] , would not have to go into the woods if they are at my back door . I have had bear in my back yard . It is deadly people like you who make a mountain out of a ant hill .

          9. Jan Williams says

            The ‘effort’ (as described above) before us, “as legislation”, is extremely dangerous. It’s abuse abounds.

          10. ABO says

            You just destroyed your whole argument with that response gotabamoron. You say that cars ad truck and powerplants pollute the air, so we should get rid of them OR clean them up. However when it comes to guns you don’t want to hear about fixing the system so that back ground checks would work as they are intended to. No just get rid of the guns. Rather inconsistent and hypocritical attitude, I’d say.

          11. Deby says

            He is a brainwashed lunatic troll-you are wasting your time Retired-he isn’t listening, just spewing the stale, old, and untrue talking points of the left.

          12. Retired says

            He is a member of the AK tribe , Muslim anti USA that support ISIS .

          13. Jan Williams says

            No, I don’t believe it would have. No, A firearms whole purpose is to defend !
            We have many black market firearms manufactured (pistols) and smuggled in from outside of the country, also.

          14. SIRWIZARD says

            Some guns are indeed designed to kill humans. So what? That’s what we have in mind when we buy them. Criminals are humans of sorts, and we intend to shoot them when they want to do us harm. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. I like your little ANTIFA outfit you’re wearing in your icon photo.

          15. Charlie says

            Prove of my last remark to you is the above post you have made . You truly are ignorant and a dolt

          16. Retired says

            Now you are saying the president goes around declaring who is mentally ill or not ???? SICK !!!!

          17. gotabgood says

            Nope…. not at all…. what Trump did was take the tools away from the people who could declare him unfit.
            What goes around, comes around….. or Karma

          18. Retired says

            IDIOT, this guys problems were there before Trump .

          19. gotabgood says

            AGAIN!!! Trump took the tools away to detect this man was unstable!!!!!!
            The shooting just occurred ! Trump gutted the bill in February, they could have stopped this massacre !

          20. Retired says


          21. Deby says

            Name the bill

          22. ABO says

            BS and you know it. But just keep pushing your pathetic lies, gotabamoron.

          23. Charlie says

            The only way to stop a mass murderer is a good human with a gun . No regulations , laws on our law books or removed from our law books can stop a lunatic from committing either a single or a mass murder .

          24. Deby says

            How??? what exactly did Trump take away? There you go, lying again. You are not credible and give no facts, only unsupported (and stupid) opinions.

          25. jim_wright says

            You are an idiot. That was done by liberal democrats years ago in the name of equal rights.

          26. ABO says

            BS and you know it. You have obviously made a career of lying.

          27. Charlie says

            Heck just put the sign ” Gun Free Zone ” on your front door and sleep in peace knowing you are safe because you are sleeping in a ” Gun Free Zone ” .
            The laws that were placed upon our law books to prevent mentally ill and felons from acquiring guns are still on our law books . All that is required is the laws be enforced .
            POTUS Trump or President Trump this is the proper way to refer to the current President of the United States of America . Just as in the past any sitting or retired POTUS should be addressed in said manner .
            ” Karma ” Dang have not heard that term for decades and then it was being used by hippies !

          28. jim_wright says

            Pres. Trump was the first to point out that this is a mental heath issue instead if a gun issue. This young criminal is also a prime example of the fallacy of gun control. One mistake in paperwork an a criminal is able to purchase a gun instead of going to the black market to buy one like the rest of the criminals.

          29. ABO says

            Let’s here an explanation of that little gem of pure idiotic drivel. You speak nothing but pure, unadulterated BS. Lies are your stock in trade. You are without reasonable doubt the least trustworthy person out there.

          30. Charlie says

            You are not just a dolt , but an ignorant dolt !

          31. ABO says

            And immensely proud of his ignorance, Charlie.

          32. Robert inguaggiato says

            You should be removed from the public for a long intense evaluation by a team of mental health professionals because if you truly believe any of the statements you have made you are a threat.

          33. Deby says

            Hmm, but the ones who ARE doing the mass shootings are all voting DEMOCRATS-all libtards, not one conservative yet, which includes all the mass shooting, bombings etc. No one from the NRA you dumb tool.

          34. Torii says

            Let’s see, why don’t you look up and see who is doing the shooting, one guess, they are all registered dumacrats, like yourself, gun laws are working great in Chicago, NOT, I guess you never studied history, as in WW 2 and such, people can’t protect themselves, they had no choice but to get on trains , end up in concentration camps and be killed by the millions. Liberal logic 101 says, that would never happen here, right, thats why you have libtard groups like Antifa, who are the Fascists, fighting to suppress the 1st amendment, so go back to mommies basement, pop out the pacifier , curl up in a corner , and read a book.

          35. ABO says

            Unless you have been visiting your home planet or have had absolutely no contact with the real world for some time now (would be my guess), you know damn well that someone at the Air Force failed to pass on the appropriate details of the shooter’s criminal record which would have shown up as a negative on a back ground check and would have precluded his purchase of any firearm, as it should have been. Your moronic little stories may entertain your own twisted little mind but those capable of critical thought aren’t amused.

          36. SIRWIZARD says

            Excuse me. What can we call someone who does a mass shooting? Sunday School Teacher? Or CRIMINAL? Isn’t shooting people a crime?

          37. Charlie says

            Please inform all of us how our current POTUS Trump is to blame for any criminal violence committed by another human . So if a human does a mass shooting said human is not a criminal ? As stated before you are a dolt .

        2. ABO says

          Yet another pathetically sophomoric response from gotabamoron.

        3. Charlie says

          Dang you truly must be a dolt .

    3. jim_wright says

      I suppose your also a fan of swatting.

    4. Jan Williams says

      On this point: “do you think your AR-15 would be any match……” There are 300,000,000 privately owned firearms in America and increasing daily. So you think that the armed forces are going to go up against the American people with all that collateral damage inflicted ? Get real, snowflake. Besides that, who says the armed forces or an authoritative policing group would abide by an unconstitutional directive. Do you think that those that would take arms against their brethren would not expect taking a hit or death to themselves ?
      On this point: “made sense back in the 1700’s”. It makes even more sense today. We, the country, would not have made it this far, if it wasn’t for the 2nd amendment. We would not be a constitutinal republic anymore. Whatever we would be, would not be good.

    5. Charlie says

      There are already laws on our law books that regulate the procession of guns . Mentally ill and felons are never allowed to own guns . Do agree on one point people should be responsible to stop the mentally ill and felons from acquiring guns or other items that could be used as a weapon . As far as the ” match against ” statement Our Constitution prevents military action against We the People and if said action did happen a total civil war would be occurring . Therefore that argument is total manure . Heck the forth amendment prevents the military from even entering our homes . Tired of people such as you trying to crap on our Bill of Natural Rights and our Constitution . Our nation is the oldest Republic that the world has ever seen , period .

    6. Joseph Carrilho says

      Look who up voted this comment (above). Find one idiot – find them all.

    7. Robert inguaggiato says

      Absolutely not without due process !

    8. john says

      You are a moron. Any gun is useful at all the targets you mention. Hit them in the right spot and down they go…….

    9. Everett Sykes says

      Who do you think mans those military weapons systems?. They certainly arent the children and grandchildrem of totaltarian commierats who ling for an ING-SOC society. They are the progeny of patriots.
      Australia is a good spot for statist .

  2. Bill O'Neil says

    A judge’s order is “due process”.

  3. gotabgood says

    Trump: Texas mass shooting is about mental health, not guns
    If Trump’s Blaming Mental Health, Why Did He Gut This Obama Gun-Check Rule?
    He sounds confused…. doesn’t he??????????????????

    Maybe Trump himself should walk through this scanner….

    1. Retired says

      As usual YOU are confused :::Everything that goes on in WDC is about lobby money and control the public .

      1. gotabgood says

        And NRA and its supporters are all about making the community safer…..
        Has nothing to do with NRA spending tons of money buying off the elected officials or your “love” for your gun..
        The last two could be swapped around..

        1. Retired says

          NRA is a lobby group like your Insurance Co. that does not want to pay for long term in house mental care .It is Obvious you know very little about the NRA and some of the many good things they do for gun safety and law enforcement . All you know is what the llibers tell you .I know of people that own ARS but never shot them and some are now worth 5 times what they paid , better than bank interest .

          1. gotabgood says

            You’re right.. I do not know the good NRA does…… maybe you can show me some things… with references.
            If I shoot someone… or make it possible for someone else to shoot someone and I sent my condolences and a check to help with funeral services, did I do good?

          2. Retired says

            You are sick in the head .I hope you sent your card and Check to Texas . The NRA does not support these clowns that murder people just for kicks , it is your liberal ACLU and judges that let then off easy .Who fights the death penalty , it’s your Anti NRA people .

          3. gotabgood says

            So…. you have nothing

          4. Retired says

            RIGHT, YOU ARE NOTHING !!!!

          5. ABO says

            Says the brainless moron.

          6. Joseph Carrilho says

            You’re a fuukin’ IDIOT.

          7. ABO says

            Joseph, I find your assessment of gotabamoron to be absolutely accurate and insightful!

        2. Charlie says

          You really love to blame the wrong people or groups for some mentally crazed human’s violent actions . So if you pass gas do you blame someone else for the foul smell ? Just wondering …

    2. ABO says

      Get your facts from NBC News ad expect to learn anything do you??? And at that, you quote a piece that was tremendously biased and roundly criticized as such, even by the Washington Post. Falling behind with your lies there moron. Better learn to be a more convincing liar.

    3. Charlie says

      So all of the laws on all levels of our government that are to restrict the mentally ill and felons from acquiring guns went into the trash can according to you . Sorry pal all of the laws that the legislators have created are still on our law books . Including the laws that prohibit mentally ill humans and felons from owning or even being close to guns .

    1. Retired says


  4. Tiger says

    You want to disarm citizens who have their guns legally without thought to doing it, would leave only the bad guys with the guns. Now what would that lead to? Not the deaths of our congressmen/women and those who have security around the clock. Only we the common citizen would be stripped of any protection against the evil in America.

    FBI told Congress there are over 1000 open cases on ISIS and they are in every state. Then disarm them.
    CIA told congress ISIS coming in with refugees and the refugees can’t be vetted. Deport them and make sure none of them have guns.
    Southern Command told us that in one year alone over 300,000 men potential terrorists, came across our border in one year. Deport all here illegally. Make sure they never get guns.
    Border guards told congress that under Obama 400 plus a day men from dangerous countries came over the border and Obama made them let him go. Find them, deport them.
    There are Muslim Training Camps across America. Take them out and disarm them.
    FBI says we have Cells here, obviously they know where they are, take them out and disarm them.
    Everyday across America in large cities, blacks kill blacks. Go into the inner cities do gun busts, disarm them.
    Thousands of African Muslim men came across our border under Obama via Tijuana. Find them, disarm them or deport them.

    On and on if they truly were interested in securing our country they would do the above. Think how much safer we would be because most attacks since 9/11 have been Muslims. Get off this kick of disarming the citizens and get into taking our the real threats.

    1. Retired says

      The left does not want to hear about those things .

      1. Brian W. says

        That is right and don’t forget its really only leftists that go mentally unhinged and kill people in mass murders or political murders. They bake their cake, eat it and then poop it out and make everybody else eat it.

        1. Retired says

          No you throw the poop right back in their face .

          1. MAHB001 says

            I am with you Retired…. Time to make a stand and quit eating their poop.

          2. AKLady says

            You elect Congress.
            Maybe you should make better choices as to who you vote for.

          3. James Rederburg says

            Corrupt traitors, like McCain, run for office touting conservative ethical positions and consistently vote leftist, communist, fascist, but are NEVER prosecuted for criminal fraud, so now it’s become a common practice! There are six Republicans who really vote consistently with the criminal Democraps, without any worry, because of a potential law suit!

          4. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …enfant terrible

          5. Terri Newman says

            that’s the same shit you said on another thread, you should find some new material.

          6. rockyndallas says

            Everyone please kick and ignore this attention starved idiot. Her purpose is to disrupt. Stop letting her do it.

          7. Celeste Halko says

            I blocked him/her, whatever it is.

          8. Debbie Bowman says

            Yep did long time ago

          9. American Patriot says

            done…God Bless America!

          10. ernldo says

            Its a tranny, neither he or she.

          11. ABO says

            Same old same old crap over and over ad infinitum. Pathetic. pointless, nauseating… Sic, twisted lunatic.

          12. Rex Whitmer says

            No, the lies come mainly from the Left AKLady! Weapons don’t kill, but Lefties do, to an excess and they’re all influenced by persons such as yourself!

          13. Troy100Jones says

            You left out one adjective: useless.

          14. Linda Shelton says

            Is she back again, uggg

          15. boone1 says

            Everyone on here needs to block aklady and then she will go away.

          16. Dave Nettles says


          17. boone1 says

            Thank you.

          18. TruthBeTold says

            Blocked since Al Gore gave birth to the internet in his lockbox.

          19. ernldo says

            I blocked the flea bag a long time ago. AKmalady is a sick, low IQ racist troll…you can’t be civilized with the leftist mooks….

          20. boone1 says

            No you can’t. The only way to deal with people like that is just shoot the POS problem over.

          21. ernldo says

            It will come to that….

          22. Rex Whitmer says

            You’ve got it pegged James! I’ve been trying for the past thirty years to find out who’s really voting for him! We do have some radical lefties here, we also have a whole lot of illegals whom actually vote though we do try to stop them. But what do you do when they live in Barrios and if you attempt to enter their polls you’re pushed away!

          23. Retired says

            Out trolling your daily BS .

          24. AKLady says

            Sewer language s an indication of illiteracy.

          25. Retired says

            What is your problem , being a NYC sewer rat it should not bother you !!!

          26. Dave Nettles says

            It’s so wonderful when she’s BLOCKED.

          27. Billy Bob says

            AKLady needs 2 get out of her/his cabin & get some fresh air. Cabin fever can B dangerous.

          28. Rex Whitmer says

            Well, then for certain you’ll understand it, seeing where you come from!

          29. Ollie Octopus says

            ADLady: You aren’t fooling anyone, you are really a socialist male homosexual pervert.

          30. turkeychoker says

            How you doin ? Got much snow yet? We don`t here in S.E. Ia. Nary a flake. How are folks reacting in the great State of Ak, over this article? My reaction isn`t so good. Not in light of home invasions,shootings on people porches,streets,&their cars.(Iowa) . I guess I`d not be so inclined to obey such a law to “turn them all in”.

          31. AKLady says

            Last week, it finally snowed. The temps above freezing, it will be gone rather quickly. Every year we have less and less snow.

            I cannot see Alaska complying with such a law. Here we deal with four-footed killers — even in Anchorage and Fairbanks.

            The crime rate in Anchorage increases every year, as does the population. With the oil gut, unemployment has also increases.

          32. turkeychoker says

            Our killers are 2 footed, but drag their knuckles when they walk. Just the past few days, Cedar Rapids, Desmoines has had a number of shootings. News to-nite is about some guy being killed by gun fire while on his porch. i carry. The last thing I`d want to do, would be to hurt someone. We`ve had our cars rifled thru during nite,out here in the country.Thankfully,it didn`t wake me.We were robbed yr. ago,while not at home.Again,glad I wasn`t home…for their sake.They got caught drunk driving w/our stuff in car. My bedtime. Nice to hear from you.

          33. AKLady says

            There are parts of Anchorage and Fairbanks which are high crime, more so in Anchorage. Here is the web site for our paper, some of it is accessible without a subscription.
            Sleep well. I enjoy talking with you.

          34. turkeychoker says

            same here.

          35. Dave Nettles says

            Our original revolution came about because the Red Coats came to get our guns. Don’t forget it.

          36. Rex Whitmer says

            How about this? If you vote Liberal, no guns. Conservative guns are Okay? Some Humans just aren’t Human enough to be able to control themselves, and they seem to be naturally anti human as well. Why else would they be trying for the record of killing the most humans?

          37. Bill says

            Ak, I agree it’s time to clean house of the libturd demoRATS and rhino republicans. Hahahahaha to AK

          38. AKLady says

            Name calling is nursery school behavior. If you are a shining example of the so-called, conservative right, I want nothing to do with it.

          39. ABO says

            And we want nothing to do with your anti-American immoral, unethical propagandizing. Close enough to agreement?

          40. ABO says

            Don’t even try to blame us for electing your sick twisted leftist trash that continue to busy themselves with the destruction of the tremendous principles of this great nation. That is entirely on you liberal/regressive lunatics. YOU OWN IT.

          41. maxtor51 says

            believe me, i don’t vote left!! so at least i throw my hat into the way i think that will serve the people in a way that is at least they way they should be governed. i don’t want to be in any way associated with their way of information processing cause they have become a “left brain” as a comedian used to refer to her spouse and people that don’t process information in a common way!!

          42. steve crawford says

            What way is that ? And I ask also, do you vote?

          43. maxtor51 says

            hell yes i vote and i also spent 26 years in the army and i know that the majority of the military does not agree with the actions of the left. how long did you serve?

          44. Dave Nettles says

            I’m sorry, but Commie Democrats don’t & RINOS don’t win elections, they steal them. Read all about it @

          45. AKLady says

            Name-calling is nursery school behavior.
            Lying is the Devil’s work.

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President —
            the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.
            Start with the Electoral College.

          46. Rex Whitmer says

            True to a certain extent AKLady, but the left also doesn’t want the vote to be one vote one person. They want one vote our side, but as many times as possible and with non regulated voters from their side. Maybe the left should start voting one vote per voter and only qualified voters! In my state, we see a lot of voters whom never voted before either in Mexico or the USA. Others get paid for voting as often as possible. It all goes back to the Left!

          47. AKLady says

            Your post say two things:

            1. You have never registered to vote, and
            2. You have not voted.

          48. steve crawford says

            I agree, Too many narrow minded voters, vote strictly the party, even if Satan was in their party and running for office.

          49. AKLady says

            Herd behavior is so much easier than having to do research and make decisions based on evidence …

          50. Mike says

            Poop?? Does your mommy clean up the doo doo and pee pee in your pants.

        2. PIERRE77L says

          I agree. Remember this words, ” If Tyranny Becomes Law, Rebellion becomes duty. It is an Obedience to God.”- Benjamin Franklin

          1. The duck says

            Old Ben made sense and his words still ring true. Only thing left out is self preservation. Kind of a personal mandate.

          2. AKLady says

            Congress writes the laws.
            You elect Congress.
            Maybe you should make better choices as to who you vote for.

          3. Richard Start says

            Over 380 million people voting in this country you put the blame on one person? We would do much better if our Leftward fallen media would do a better job of reporting factual news which includes not leaving out the parts that make their favorites look bad. I get a kick out of the Democrats all upset about “Russian Collusion” when Bill and Hillary have had more ties with Russia then anyone from the Trump Campaign and there is not one Senator who did not know Serge the Russian Ambassador as he was a regular at some of the Washington hot spots and quite the socialite stopping to talk at everyone’s table. He was described in some articles as very entertaining at social gatherings of which Washington is known for and even Nancy Pelosi has been seen with him but that is all scrubbed from the net these days. It showed up when the stories first broke then disappeared, funny how that worked isn’t it.

          4. Retired says

            Richard , you hit a home run on your post . Facts that the left won’t talk about .

          5. Richard Start says

            Thank you for your kind words. I know I did well as I made AK choke! “Blah…..” She must have that copied down some place to rubber stamp on comments that get her goat.

          6. Retired says

            It is a BOT planted to create hate and discontent , there are 4 of them that stick together like glue . They use a different Script .Have a good one .

          7. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …enfant terrible

          8. Retired says

            AK —- The RETARD has pooped .

          9. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          10. Rex Whitmer says

            Back at you AKLady! There for a while I thought you might actually be a REAL LADY!

          11. turkeychoker says

            She isn`t just blaming one person. We are all responsible. It is OUR fault. We,including me, sat on our hands while all the ground work was being laid for just what we see to-day. WE let liberals set the parameters for discussions.WE let liberals define morality. etc.,etc. Now we are pissed at THEM, alone ?

          12. ABO says

            You make a valid point to a certain extent and I agree in large pat with your basic premise but it is the Democrat lemming voters that listen to the lame socialist garbage spewed by liberal/regressive Democrat politicians and say ‘well, that makes sense’ ad rush out to vote for these subversive trash. Such being the case, I am indeed pissed at THEM, If not THEM alone.

          13. Richard Start says

            Colleges are our biggest Democrat producing factories! I have no idea how a person comes around to being a conservative as my father was a Democrat but taught me Republican ideals? He was a Kennedy Democrat and they were actually more like conservatives on one side with a touch of liberal on the other.
            Check out JFK’s speech on taxes 1962 it is all conservative but other aspects of the man leaned left.

          14. ABO says

            Absolutely correct, Richard, on both points. I currently live in a state that is approximately 90% liberal/regressive as far as our state government is concerned. Nearly every day I talk to people who complain incessantly about what our government is doing and yet they vote Democrat and refuse to believe that Democrats are responsible for the seemingly endless problems and corruption we see in our state government.
            As to the Kennedy issue, I lived in Massachusetts in the sixties and your assessment of the Kennedy liberal/conservative thing is spot on. My father knew the Kennedy family quite well, like and respected Jack and Bobby but had no use whatsoever for Ted. I still visit friends and relatives there and for decades I couldn’t find a single soul who would admit that they ever voted for Ted yet he always won by huge margins. Go figure.

          15. Richard Start says

            Like my father I remember things I’ve read for years but he could tell you a lot more details like where he read it, years and dates, I’m not near as good as he was. In all that reading I found it mentioned that Ronald Reagan was a Kennedy Democrat but left the party when they moved away from his ideals then brought some if not many of them to the GOP when he made his run for President. If you checked out JFK’s speech on taxes he explains trickle down much better then consider one of JFK’ most famous quote’s “Ask not what my country can do for me but what I can do for my country?” Sounds like getting government out of your life to me. Just as RINO’s are corrupting the GOP some Alinisky crowd changed theirs.! When I finally woke my mother up as to how much they changed she could no longer vote for them.

          16. Rex Whitmer says

            ;He was a master speaker, but morally he was as bad as Clinton and Bobbie wasn’t any better. Bobbie’s wife put up with a lot of grief and never commented her true feelings. The Kennedy’s felt entitled. In spite of his being a rum runner, John’s dad felt he should be an ambassador to England. FDR felt otherwise, hence, Jack was supposed to make pres, but was killed, so John got the job with help from brother Bobbie. All four were very immoral, but John could certainly speak!

          17. Richard Start says

            It was a different time when the press still hid our Persident’s weaknesses. We had onne president in a wheelchair and the public had no idea because the press club hid it! They choose not to take pictures of him in one! The 60’s may have been the sexual revelution but news papers were still very stuffy up to the 70’when they finally started talking about wife and child abuse, before that there were just some things they did not print in major news papers. Hollywoodscandals maybe but it had to be bad before the others made the paper. Now they print any “Could have done it” that comes along.

          18. Rex Whitmer says

            He was a Democrat ABO. Same thing in Arizona and McCain who was Teddy’s twin.

          19. ABO says

            Well, on that point, Rex, McCain it a democrat as well and yes they might well be twins.

          20. Rex Whitmer says

            JFK=Clinton, Just richer and his brother wasn’t a drunk!

          21. turkeychoker says

            You`re right. I still see ” I`m with her ” stickers on cars. “Resist”,ect.,etc. and they drive like a 5 yr. old. One red flag we all missed,was when schools claimed they were teaching ‘critical thinking skills’. They taught exactly the opposite.So,Democrats not only evolve from purple eggs that fell to earth from Jupiter,but our public schools also.Now,this am, I see they want to ban black powder muskets,also. These morons want a civil war. They count on what they call ” foreign assets ” for help.

          22. ABO says

            They seem to live in their own little utopia world wherein absolutely everything MUST be exactly the way they want it to be and no one else’s wants or needs matter. They are incredibly self absorbed.

          23. turkeychoker says

            I 100% agree ! I`ve had many a liberal tell me they create their own reality. One tried to encourage me to also. Sorry, don`t know how, and don`t want to, was my answer. That earned me criticism. Which caused me to rejoin by suggesting they just stay in their ‘happy’ place.

          24. ABO says

            No point attempting to use logic when dealing with them, because they are indeed existing within their own little imaginary utopia wherein nothing from the real world can disrupt their little dreamland.

          25. Richard Start says

            This I more then just “US” at fault here. Keep in mind many people are just waking up to the idea our news media has been leading them around by the nose for years and not all our teachers in schools have been teaching with the idea of producing student’s who believe in America! This is really a shock for people who expect trusted members of the community to actually have integrity and apply that in doing their jobs. Now that we are waking up the question becomes what to do with out going over board and becoming an even worse version of McCarthyism then some of the Lefty’s are, i.e. Antifa. Those are bad examples but they are extremes.
            Our situation can be expected when colleges teach students they can’t talk about subjects because words are hateful or subjects are too mean so they need safe zones to protect them. Instead of working it out they are taught to bottle it up until it explodes. We don’t allow much of anything but our college educated media sure is working overtime to not improve the situation.

          26. Rex Whitmer says


          27. Richard Start says

            Convince them of that! How messed up is it to dress up like a fascist army squelch the free speech of all those around you call it your expression of free speech then name your group as opposed to exactly what you practice as you gain in higher education? Reason just doesn’t seem to be a part of his picture.
            Since they are the beginning Id say they’re more like the Brown shirts, the ones the Nazi’s had to exterminate once they came to power and out lived their usefulness.

          28. Debbie Bowman says

            Yeah like screaming up at the sky…. lmao

          29. Richard Start says

            I should not bore or frustrate you with reading this but I’ve grown to like this story. ’96 I use to drive in Pheonix traffic jams both ways to work and stuided ways to break the boredom from learning the songs on all my tapes, anylizing how traffic jams worked attempting a wider variety of music and even finally listening to talk radio after imagining building two or three homes compete with landscaping! For years I stayed away from his show because of what I heard on the major news networks but he was not that bad. One day he made a few dumb unimportant comments in a none serious nature. He was obviously joking around but on those news stations I trusted they excoriated him as if he had been serious! That ticked me off! I paid more attention to Rush Limbaugh after that and found that in between all the talk he was reporting a lot of news my news, those serious news stations I trusted, never bothered to mention! l also discovered by listening to him and a few others I was a month or two a head of everyone else around me about what was happening in the world and in our own country! Why? Because my old news networks never talked about anything until it became so obvious they had too! Why again? It was years latter before I heard that answer. WE are not interested? Did you want to know one of the issues we were not interested in hearing about? The IRS making it harder for some people to gain access to 401 and 501C’s! The American public was not interested in the IRS going rouge? You would be surprised at the things I heard during a Senate Hearing on this matter the major news networks never followed up on. like the IRS sending an opposition political group the names and phone numbers of all donors on their letter head. I only heard that watching the hearing on TV, strange day. I scream at the sky and the moon and spread the word to anyone who will listen or not because sooner or later my words will land in the right place and just maybe make a little difference like a pebble rolling down a tall hill. I means nothing when it starts out but there are some places down below it is not safe to stand. That is Lamo at it’s best.

          30. Chi Sam says

            ‘Anylizing’ is not a word. I bailed at that point. Was it a good story?

          31. Richard Start says

            analyze and yes I am the worlds worst speller plus it was a good story with a message which becomes more relevant as the years pass. I once had a Commander who placed more emphasis on those with in his ranks who had exceptional writing skills. They were the least capable when it came to our mission but they could write real good!

          32. Chi Sam says

            I agree… Donald Trump is hands-down the worst speller, and often speaker that has ever held the office, yet he is one of the best, most capable Presidents we have had in my lifetime…perhaps second only to Reagan.

          33. Retired says

            Well ,that all goes back to the days after WW2 when the Educators Union took control of the education system , Korea and Nam did not help the situation either .

          34. Troy100Jones says

            The U.S. pop. is only about 325 million and only about 125 million voted in the last presidential election. Other than that I like your comments.

          35. Richard Start says

            Dag Nab it! Don’t ya hate getting a number wrong? I googled our population once and came up with that number and It is stuck in my head. It was around the time of the census and may have been corrected since then. Thank you for calling me on it. Appreciate you kind words also.

          36. ABO says

            Well said and entirely accurate and insightful, Richard. AKLoony however, blind liberal lemming that she is won’t get a word of it. Thank you for your honesty and your concern for the fate of our Democracy. Well done!

          37. turkeychoker says

            You`re talkin over some of these well meaning folks heads.

          38. ABO says

            Go find some older threads that she has posted on turkeychoker. She constantly posts nothing but her usual mindless irrelevant cut and paste nonsense over and over, word for word, ad infinitum. She contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion and wonders why others disrespect her. She certainly does not talk over the heads of anyone here. She has claimed at various times to have been a combat nurse, a Medical Doctor, a Constitutional Attorney, a top level Presidential Advisor and a famous US diplomat. Then as she can’t remember all of her lies, for any length of time, ends up contradicting her own stories and continues to tell more lies to cover for the ones she got caught in.

          39. ABO says

            You and your liberal/regressive lemmings are the ones who elected the liberal/regressive trash that have made a joke of our Constitution for decades now. YOU OWN IT.

          40. Rex Whitmer says

            Funny thing AKLady, sometimes our votes don’t get counted, but a lot of times people vote who aren’t even citizens, or whom want America to become Socialistic because they think the government will give them everything they need. They don’t seem to realize that they become governmental property then. Back when I had kids at home, I kept a cow for milk. She’d have a calf every spring, and come fall the calf went in the freezer. I fed ’em both and took good care of ’em. When governments become socialized, citizens become cows!

          41. AKLady says

            Another brainwashed steer.
            When was the last tine you actually read your state’s ballot?
            When was the last tine you registered to vote?
            Please tell us how an illegal gets to vote?
            Please tell us how an illegal gets assigned to a voting location?

          42. Mathew Molk says

            We have gone past that a while back. Too many laws that if voted on by the general public would have no chance of passing, yet we get then crammed down our throats every day.

        3. Dave Nettles says

          Or there NAZI cohorts.

      2. James Andrews says

        Great post Tiger!

      3. John Doe says

        As is the case when liberals and facts come together, facts are to liberals like salt to a slug!

        1. The duck says

          Some are very stubborn when you salt them down with the truth facts. They just keep coming back with idiotic words dribbling off their lips, so they are never confused with the facts, they just ignore them and call us names. like that proves anything but stupidity which there is no cure.

        2. usmcSergeant says

          John, love it. Salt to a slug, right…

          1. John Doe says

            I just can’t think of which character in movies best visually depicts what they look like, the Wicked Witch from “The Wizard of Oz” or the Nazi in one of “The Raiders of the Lost Ark”, any suggestions ?

          2. Terri Newman says

            the wicked witch gets my vote!

        3. Norman says

          Liberals are slugs.

          1. John Doe says

            Yes, and I’ve been slimed by a few of them when I’ve gotten too close to the, and I didn’t even have my hazardous / toxic waste suit on ! 😎

      4. The Redhawk says

        Heck an IDIOT at Session Hearing ( Black from KALIPHORNICATION) wanted to know WHICH BLACK ORG may be called DIVISIVE and guilty of shooting Cops….while accusing “white supremacists” of shooting cops… May be it is time to IDENTIFY all te Black Terrorists that LOOTED Ferguson Clamored about killing Cops, killed cops in Dallas. and treat them accordingly

        1. Joyce White says

          Then we have Al (diarrhea -of-the-mouth) Sharpton who said for God and the whole world to hear. ‘It is alright to “off” a cop. And what I say is what I do’ So Mr. Sharpton, let’s have the name and badge number of the cops you “offed”.

          1. Retired says

            Sharpton the Snitch probably made a deal so they won’t charge him for any Crimes .

          2. Art The Fart says

            Like Hillary Clinton, Al is probably immune from any prosecution.

          3. richard king says

            With his bosom buddy Obama, he already has a deal.

          4. The Redhawk says

            Then may be Al Shar PIMP ton needs to get on a TERROIST IST as a TARGET for Shooting Practice???

          5. richard king says

            Well, if it’s all right to off a cop, anything goes for a punk who says that.

        2. Retired says

          Our AFU , ACLU protects the looters and Killers even if it is on tape .

          1. The Redhawk says

            Well may be we need to RE MOBILIZE the DOJ??? or get a NEW AG????

          2. James Wentz says

            You mean the ACL-Jew?!?

          3. The Redhawk says

            not really… just “LAWYERS” that should be Enough!

          4. Mathew Molk says

            I have no idea why our President wanted Jeff the Inert Sessions to be AG. He never won a major case in a stand up fight in his life.

          5. Jeannie says

            YES one that has gonads and is not soft……Someone like Trey Gowdy, or Rudy Giuliani, or Judge Jeanine…..

          6. Unkjime says

            Sessions is doing it right ,picking his battle field,Give the Dems enough rope and in going after Trump they will expose Hillary,Obama,Commey and the bunch…………….

          7. The Redhawk says

            I pray you are CORRECT…I am not so sure!!!….

          8. The duck says

            Well they are entitled to a defense. We suffer from liberal judges who make decisions by their gut feelings instead of what the law states. Yeah I know the AFU and ACLU will defend anyone who wants to violate the law and terrorize the neighborhood. Those people come out of the woodwork looking for criminals to defend. Those attorneys need be dis-bared.

          9. AKLady says

            No, they protect individual’s civil liberties.
            Do you even know what those are?

          10. Retired says

            Why don’t you take your bottle of booze in the corner and STFU while you choke your Chicken with the rest of your Clan .

        3. pdm5600 says


          1. The Redhawk says

            Bulls eye !

        4. bruce wickstrom says

          This goes back to the old adage–When you take away guns, only the bad guys will have guns. RVN 1968-1969

          1. Mathew Molk says

            Welcome home brother…..I’m class of 68.

          2. bruce wickstrom says

            Thanks for your service also–I was at Lai Khe with the Big Red One. Believe it or not, they tried to lock our M16s up at night, but Senator Javits put a stop to it. As you may feel, the only way to stop the violence is better screening and stop the illegal sale by non licensed gun dealers. In other words, do your purchase legally.

          3. The Redhawk says

            Ain’t that the TRUTH … Chicago is a Lesson…

          4. turkeychoker says

            1966-1970. I see one gave you a “welcome home” . Me too, welcome home ! . It was 13 yr. after my discharge before I heard those words. Then it was from a VA counselor, broken marriage,and yr.`s of heavy drinking. Never got as bad as 1 friend and comrade in arms. He died from drugs,drinking,while living in a junk car. To-day,if 1 were to look up “normal” in a dictionary, they`d find my name.

          5. ABO says

            Thank you for your service, turkeychoker, I was one of the short timers, 1969/70 but I know what you mean. When I got home I was spit on and called a “baby killer” by a bunch of worthless hippies, the predecessors of today’s liberal/regressives. I had a long, fuzzy relationship with Jack Daniels but managed to come out of it reasonably unscathed although several buddies I served with did not fare so well. Again, Thank you for your service. It is greatly appreciated by most.

      5. tCotUS says

        Honest Politicians have nothing to fear from Patriot American Gun Owners..But Tyrants against the Constitution, have much to worry.

        1. Retired says

          Start by voting them out of office .

      6. Troy100Jones says

        About 2% of the population has demonstrated enough contempt
        for the laws of our country that they are already in prison. There
        are another 2% which have not been caught and tried yet. Then
        there are those who just cannot control themselves. Visit a class
        of people who are taking “driver’s ed” who a judge has allowed to
        take the class in lieu of a large fine. Etc., etc. You will find that a
        tenth of our population can’t seem to fit the category of “civilized.”
        We are lucky that most are relatively peaceful. We just have to let
        our customs and laws deal with the problem. Be glad that most of
        them do not vote. Typically quit school at age 16. Commit some
        kind of crime daily (usually illegal drugs).

      7. boone1 says

        Hell the left is the problem in America and they need too be gone.

      8. Liz says

        I agree, I think the Left wants us all disarmed so we can’t defend ourselves when their agenda goes full steam ahead….I keep remembering those unaccompanied young Islamic men coming across the boarder with Obama’s blessing…

        1. Retired says

          You got it , what kind of man leaves his wife and children behind other than the UN will support bringing them back together .Obama was a UN and OWO/NWO puppet . Merkel in Germany is one of their puppets also I have yet to meet a Russian Immigrant that does not own one of their famous guns .

    2. gotabgood says

      “You want to disarm citizens who have their guns legally without thought to doing it, would leave only the bad guys with the guns. Now what would that lead to?”
      A safer USA! All mass shootings would stop, so schools, theaters, shopping malls, concerts and churches would be safe again.
      For burglaries… get a dog or a silent alarm system, or both.
      If someone was set out to kill you, you owning a gun doesn’t prevent him from doing that. Don’t you watch movies?? “High Noon” is the old way.. now it is all about surprise..
      So better to compromise and get some gun control legislation and to have confiscation… don’t you agree?

      1. jim_wright says

        You are living in a magic utopia if you believe this BS.

        1. SDofAZ says

          He is, in his liberal delusional utopia. You know, the one strictly in their pea brains!

      2. AE says

        Again I say this there are only two types of terrorist one is Muslim the other is liberal.If you want to be safe make sure no Muslim can become anything other than a proud American willing to defend life, liberty and justice the American way. The second is liberals no where at no time should these freedom hating, communists ever be allowed to own a gun.

        1. Retired says

          AE ::: gotabgood fits both descriptions !!!

          1. SDofAZ says

            Made me laugh Retired. And so very true!

        2. Mathew Molk says

          They then become a former moslem(sic) Their filthy koran says they must kill or enslave and work to death any person that will not convert to islam. – Hardly the American way.

          By the very act of assimilating they receive a death sentence from other stinking moslems.

      3. Arnold Young says

        Boy-have you ever got your head in the sand. Then your rear end is up in the air waiting for somebody to use it for a football!

        1. bygonemel says

          Its not sand that they have heads stuck up..

        2. Retired says

          He is still up Obozos rear up to the ankles .

        3. SDofAZ says

          Another great laugh, Arnold. You and Retired are on a roll.

      4. Charlie says

        Kind of tired of the posts you make hiding behind the BS name of ” gotabgood ” . Since the vast majority of your posts are anti-American or anti-Constitutional or anti-Bill of Rights think you are a socialist . Therefore why don’t you just move to a socialistic nation and you’ll be happy .
        Our Constitution is the foundation for all laws that follow . Our Constitution sets up parameters for all laws of our nation. Lately people such as you think Our Constitution is just an old document that can be ignored .
        Trying to justify your point of view with the movie ” High Noon ” is just further prove that you are just a BS artist trying to impress others with your BS .
        The gun laws already on the law books of our nation are not being enforced . There are far more murders by blunt force then with the use of guns . What do you want legislation that your hands have to stay within say 3 to 6 inches of your body so that blunt force murder is almost impossible ? Heck blunt force would take care of the dog if committing a burglary . By the way a gun can for sure stop a bad guy from killing you or others this is factual .
        ” Don’t you agree ? ” No Do Not Agree with you .

      5. Joseph Carrilho says

        I agree……with most others here…….you are ALWAYS totally full of shit.

      6. Robert inguaggiato says

        Where you born a moron? No you were not you have been brainwashed by the radical ideology of the leftist.
        Remember this if the 2nd amendment is eliminated kiss all other rights goodbye.
        Have it ever accrued to you why this country has not been invaded since the British tried?
        No it has not.
        The second amendment has not only kept citizens safe from the looney toons that would try to do harm to you but as intended kept other countries from trying to invade because of a well armed civilian population.
        Want to know why schools movie theaters and other “gun free zones ” have had such things happen?
        Of course you don’t.
        The reason is theses nuts know they will not face any resistance in the form of another person with a gun until police get there and in the Connecticut case leftists always leave out the fact that Aden killed his own mother to get the gun. Kind of an important fact that democrats hate so never mention it.
        Do you know that just about every High School had a marksman club and that students had their rifles in school with them and OMG those guns never killed anyone. Just another fact that liberals hate so never acknowledge.
        Do you know that democrats are the ones responsible for creating the ” gun free zones ” claiming this would ensure the safety of our kids in those schools?
        No you didn’t!
        Bottom line it is democrats so called “common sense ” gun laws that have paved the way for these horrible things to happen!
        Don’t be a liberal sheep because you are being led to slaughter by the very morons you defend.

        Wake up you have been feed a line of crap and you have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

        1. richard says

          great post!,and have you ever noticed,you never ever hear”we need better truck control ” or how about ”we must do better to stop these insane knife attacks” or any of the other ways a nut job decides to harm some one,no its only when a gun is involved they scream gun control and your assessment of the real reason the founders insisted on the 2nd amendment is precisly to protect us from outside attacks and if i may quote Nikita Krusechef “only a fool would attack a country with a gun behind every blade of grass”…….

          1. SDofAZ says

            And to protect us from our own government as well. The Founders knew those in charge could not be trusted either. Power does corrupt!

          2. Mathew Molk says

            The founders did, in fact, need protection from the government (Britts) at the time. That’s how the whole thing started.

      7. MAHB001 says

        LOL… From now on I am going to read your posts and do just the opposite.

        1. SDofAZ says

          We all pretty much do that anyway. No liberals here!

      8. disqus_MZe2ymfHQj says

        Gotabgood—–You have got to be the dumbest person I have ever seen on here.
        Was you born like this, or did you have to learn it.

      9. Mathew Molk says

        I blocked you yesterday and here you are back….But before I block you again What in the hell makes you think that a person intent on a mass shooting would turn in his weapon? You are some kind of dumb SOB, snowflake.

        Btw. I have A German Shepard. His Half Brother (Same father different mother) was a Police dog in Canton Ohio. – His half brother was shot and killed. Again you are showing your stupidity again. A burglar is not going to turn in his gun and he WILL shoot your dog in an eye blink, and then blow you up before the police can respond to your “silent alarm” (And just for the record, a loud mouth audible alarm is MUCH better, A burglar will turn tail as soon as he sets it off and neither you or your dog will get shot,,,,,you idiot.

        I was a cop in Cleveland snowflake. I scooped up more bodies off the ground then you ever went to funerals. I’ll tell you this chump. You aint got a clue.

        1. gotabgood says

          You blocked me? I blocked a person a few months ago, had a change of heart, I decided if I couldn’t stand the heat, it was time for me to leave and not cherry pick who talks to me or not, so I tried to un-block this person and couldn’t do it. How did you do it?

          First my father taught me to have respect for women, the law and the military. So I find it difficult at times when women and the people in uniform bad mouth me, call me names or wish that I was dead as you have said in other post about the “lefties”.
          Also we are Americans and to hear talk about revolution, lock and load, only good Democrat is a dead one And all this bullshit… it is hard to stay focused.

          We don’t agree on policies… we do agree on what Americans need… decent wage job, healthcare, great education for our kids, infrastructure second to none. The rest should be sat down and talked out like adults. Both sides will not get everything they want, that is called compromise.
          So why not drop your he-man shit and talk to me like I am human and an American.
          As for home security, I am sure you know more about it than I do…. does that make you better than I am. NO! It means we are United and where I am weak you are strong… we pull together, not against each other.

          You have worked around people long enough to know when they are lying, or avoiding the truth. and who the bullies are.. you know this….. so why do you dummy up on Trump? He is a liar and you know it! He also is a bully and you know that also!

          We have to start calling truth for what it is and a lie for what it is… If we can’t agree on the truth… I am not talking grey areas…. I am talking black and white, I am talking about truth vs lie…. If we can’t be honest with ourselves then we are in trouble.

          Here is scenario…You honestly believe that Obama, Hillary had something to do with those killings in Benghazi. You keep wanting to have an investigation and then another one and never satisfied with the outcome… or should say, won’t accept the outcome.

          I honestly believe bush and cheney was involved in the first 9/11… but I have moved on. I am not living and breathing for the day they have another investigation. I feel they got away with it… move on.

        2. gotabgood says

          I didn’t answer your first question.
          “What in the hell makes you think that a person intent on a mass shooting would turn in his weapon?”

          Short answer, I don’t!
          The ones doing the mass shootings are not criminals and some are students. There have been a few shootings that a “good” back ground check might have prevented. Like this last one in Texas. The theater in Colorado. Just those two would have saved lives. Not sure about Vegas. The one in Tucson for sure. well there has 1500 since Sandy Hook..I am sure some could have been prevented… ALL of them? No… but that was your job.. to save lives… did you save them all? No… Why didn’t you just quit?

    3. superpicker says

      right on Tiger,excellent videos attached also.1rst thing that needs to go is the leftist libiterd democommies that are promoting this crap and allowing this trash into OUR country. once their gone we can go about enforcing the existing laws and remove the trash and clean up Our country.

      1. pineapple says


        Democrats only make the NRA stronger. Maybe Michael Bloomberg can put in another $50 million to advance the sale of Guns and Ammo (Grin)
        Maybe the ‘NRA’ should ban Democrats
        1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the
        United States. In 1881 a left wing
        radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States
        who later died from the wound. In 1963 a
        radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President
        of the United States. In 1975 a left wing
        radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United
        States. In 1983 a registered Democrat
        shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
        In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat,
        shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
        In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and
        killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
        In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10
        people at a GMAC office. In 1991 George
        Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s
        cafeteria. In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a
        disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas
        laboratory. In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a
        disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
        In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired
        shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush,
        President of the US. In 2003 Douglas
        Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed
        Martin plant. In 2007 a registered
        Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and in
        2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot
        Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
        In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie
        theater and shot and killed 12 people. In
        2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7
        people in Minneapolis. In 2013 a
        registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a
        school. As recently as Sept 2013, an
        angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
        One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
        Clearly, there is a problem with
        Democrats and guns.
        Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives were
        involved in these shootings and murders.
        SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
        Best idea I’ve heard to date.

        1. superpicker says

          AMEN pineapple AMEN

        2. buffalobob826 says

          That would make a good tee shirt/ bumper sticker. Guns don’t kill people. Democrat’s kill people

          1. HarryTC says

            Those called Democrats are actually Democratic into the Party. Democratic Socialists are ALSO fascist, and depend on Government Programs that forces citizens to “think” the way they do, and spend money purchasing things only they approve of like healthcare dor all.

          2. buffalobob826 says

            It’s called being sarcastic

        3. Charles McNulty says

          Please send that info to Fox News, maybe Hannity will show it !

        4. Mo says

          Excellent reply pineapple. A couple more items to add to your list.

          1.) It is always the Liberal Left that starts screaming for more gun control or outright disarming of the Law abiding Citizens after one of their own goes crazy and shoots people.

          2.)The biggest thing is that most mass shootings always seem to happen in Cities with the strict gun laws or the most heavy handed gun control laws. Funny how that fact always seems to be left out of the Lamestream Media’s reports or from the Left’s own push for more gun control.

          1. alevanpa says

            Isn’t it interesting that the Democrats blame Trump for “colluding” with the Russians, and we find out that, actually, it was Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the DNC, that really colluded with Russians in a failed attempt to destroy Trump.

            The whole Democrat playbook is to commit the grossest felonies, install Slavery and segregation, work with spies and the Russians to defeat your political, and blame the opponents for the crimes.

            And, Republicans politicians are so blockheaded, downright stupid, and, to top it all off, self-righteous about the whole disgusting drama. I have come to believe that Republican politicians and talking heads (so-called intellectuals) are actually too stupid to defend themselves.

            They actually deserve to be destroyed as a political party. The problem is that, if they are, the rest of us, the innocent, will be turned into slaves to Democratic lunacy-which is what will be left.

            We, the people, are screwed-no matter which way we go. God, please help us, because I don’t think anyone else out there can-or will.

          2. Mathew Molk says

            We got an election coming up next year. A lot of RINOs will be looking for work the Following January. Notice to RINOs coming up for re-election/ We know what you look like and we know what you have done.

            MAGA of get run over by the Trump Train.

          3. Retired says

            Who are the ones up for reelection , McCain and McConnell are not ????

          4. pineapple says

            Mass murders seem to happen in soft targets like schools, concerts, and other soft targets. Very few occur at rifle ranges, gun shows and police stations.

            Yet liberals want to ban guns for law abiding citizens.

        5. Ted Paine says

          Better yet just BAN the Democrat Party.

          1. pineapple says

            Good idea!!

        6. richard king says

          Then there was the democrat who tried to shoot the entire republican party baseball team , and succeeded in badly wounding Rep. Scalise.

        7. Mathew Molk says

          Come to think about it can’t name a registered Republican that ever shot any politician.

        8. NRApatriot says

          When the libs start talking gun control from now on, us gun owners should agree that democrats shouldn’t be allowed to own guns!

      2. Tiger says

        Thank you and amen. We must never allow the Progressive/Socialist/Communist to ever get control of our country again.

        1. BT says

          I believe it was Ben Franklin who, when asked what kind of a government they had chosen, replied, “A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”

          1. Tiger says

            Indeed it was and we are sure having problems holding onto it, kinda like holding onto the greased pig at a rodeo. Only it’s a bunch of greased pigs in congress that need roping.

          2. Mathew Molk says

            I got a better idea…..I do love bacon, you know.

        2. Mathew Molk says

          No question in my military mind. The NWO Marxists (aka democrats) will never again be a viable force in this country for the rest of this century and beyond.

          1. Tiger says

            Matthew I surely hope you are correct. Obama had eight years in which he went to work on our military. Took out all generals and admirals and officers right down the line. Put in his shills and did a lot of damage.

      3. MAHB001 says

        The Left is using the socialists and kindhearted liberals as useful idiots once again.

        1. superpicker says

          what can I say ,YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID

    4. Donald Lindsey says

      Damn right

    5. pineapple says

      Your post makes too much sense to be implemented by the lunatic lefties.

      1. Tiger says

        That is why the sensible among us must stay vigilant.

    6. rocky49 says

      better idea take away the guns from their guards and make it illegal for them to have the guns!!
      If they want to take away guns then it is time to start live trapping bears,wolves, skunks, racoon s and animals and dropping them off in liberal cities!!!

      1. Tiger says

        Better yet, make sure that every liberal state, including Hawaii is filled with the refugees they all want. George Cloony left his villa in Europe because a refugee center was built next to it. He ran back into America and built a huge wall around his well guarded compound. He is married to a Muslim said his family was in danger.

        Also fill D.C. up with them. Make sure every congressman/woman who wants this gets camps built in their neighborhoods. Take all the Somali. Iraqi, Cambodian, Afghani, Burmese, Sudanese etc single men and put them all in D.C. Did you know that D. C. gives DL to illegals? How is that for irony, the very place our laws are decided.

        1. Retired says

          Better yet have every judge and lawyer that supports them house 2-3 families and support them .

          1. Tiger says

            Amen and better yet make sure there are plenty of guns around.

          2. The Redhawk says

            A torpedo in deep water…Just sayn…

          3. Tiger says

            Mines al over the yard.

          4. Mathew Molk says

            Oh for an 81 Mike Mike mortar to send a few tokens of our displeasure over the walls these rich commies put up. It would be glorious.

          5. Retired says

            A shortage of whacky Judges and Lawyers , what a wonderful thought !!!! A sharp Sword is all they need .

          6. Tiger says

            A Boot to the head.

    7. The Redhawk says

      Hi thee Tiger!! Would you Imagine having some of ABC proponents to arrive to our doors to “confiscate” ………………?? Just Imagine!!!
      Missed sending you a THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ..

      1. Tiger says

        Hi there Redhawk and welcome for the service a family tradition. Yes I know what would happen here. Boy it would look like the 4th of July for sure.

        1. The Redhawk says

          or “little big horn”???

          1. Tiger says

            Oh now that is a sore spot with me, Custer was a lowdown, filthy, maniac who slaughtered and needs to be taken off every monument, and his remains dug up and his skeleton hung.

            Yeah it would be along those lines for sure. I read a fascinating book on the battle and it was told by the men and all, on both sides who fought it. You know the Indian women would go and desecrate the bodies after a battle. Know what they did to him? Well gonna tell you he was an adulterer and he was sleeping with an Indian woman, so they took an arrow and shoved it up his dangling member and pierced his ears with an arrow because he never listened.

            His brother had shot him before the Indians got to him, knowing what they would do to the no good, SOB. It was his wife, a rounder also, who made it with all the young soldiers, who made him famous. The military knew what he was.

            I love Real History.

          2. Mathew Molk says

            Squaw killer Custer was an embarrassment to the entire US Army officer corps. He was the direct opposite of the Duty, Honor, and Country that is a mark of any real American officer.

          3. Tiger says

            Amen and he was so much worse than anybody can imagine. He was a cold blooded, insane murderer.

        2. Mathew Molk says

          Only one each,,,,right through their commie skulls,,,but you have to remember . These snotballs would never do anything like that that. They expect somebody else to tale all risks. Cowardice is an art form to them.

          1. Tiger says

            Like with the hatred they have for Trump, whose actions since coming into office has made life better and safer for them, so does the military. They are lucky.

    8. MAHB001 says

      “You want to disarm citizens who have their guns legally without thought
      to doing it, would leave only the bad guys with the guns. Now what
      would that lead to? ”

      Thanks Tiger, this is one of my favorite Youtube videos and it has the answer to your question… 🙂 But you did do an excellent job of answering the question yourself.

      1. richard says

        gata agree,Tiger has her S*** together,very sharp lady i always enjoy her comments……

      2. Tiger says

        Seen it and love it. Thanks.

        1. Scuttlebutt says

          Tiger, you are read by many who agree with you. I agree with you as well. Keep up the good work & hugs to you & your’s:)

          1. Tiger says

            Thank you love hugs better than what I usually get on posts. LOLOL

      3. Tito Troy says

        I was going to say something in this thread. But she has said it all.

      4. Ursus_Indomitus says

        Shout it from the battlements!

    9. SDofAZ says

      Thank you Tiger. Well said!

      1. Tiger says

        Welcome and you keep it coming also. This is an old ploy they are using on Moore, we saw them use it on Trump or try. But the interesting thing is Moore was a Democrat during these years he is accused. Rush brought that up.

        We know they love rapists and sex offenders look at how they still praise Billy Clinton.

        1. SDofAZ says

          So, do you doubt the judge is innocent and that this is just another smear like they tried with Trump? It seems like they held back like they did with Trump until they knew this was their last attempt to stop him. And this is a common practice for the dem wits. Low and mean with timing too close to prove the claims are untrue or grossly exaggerated? Your thoughts in reality?

          1. Tiger says

            I believe it is a frame, they are so well known for this. Interestingly enough Rush brought out that Moore was a Democrat at this time. Again too many years ago and the women had so much time to come forward, like you say why now.

            Moore must be a tremendous threat because the RINO don’t want him either.



          2. SDofAZ says

            He is literally hated by dem wits and rinos equally and that makes him the right candidate to elect. I sincerely hope the Alabama constituents do not fall for this dog and pony show the dem wits and rinos are performing! And it is time the ones who smear and make claims this late in the show are held accountable. The Judge needs to sue all these women and their benefactors! In fact if more of these late date accusers were held accountable maybe this dem wit and rino ploy would not be so well used!

          3. Tiger says

            Well stated and written.

        2. Mathew Molk says

          Girls going back 41 years to try to say pulling her hair was a sexual advance is a bit much. Shows just how desperate they are.

          BTW, Anybody catch the bit where she claimed she didn’t know what a district attorney was ????? She must think we are as dumb as she is if she thinks we will believe a 15 year old, who was in school, didn’t know what a district attorney was. What ELSE did she lie about?

          1. Tiger says

            They will continue to use these tactics until they don’t work for them. In Moore’s case, Rush brought out the fact during these years Moore was a Democrat, suppose that is why nothing was said, being as we know their reputations for handling women from Clinton to Biden. So the Republicans don’t want Moore and going with this, he must be a powerful voice for the people.



      2. Mathew Molk says

        Yo SD,,,,we are not so silent any more. We have the NWO Marxists in full panic mode, in fact.

        1. SDofAZ says

          Good to hear, make sure everyone you know is ready to defend against the rinos and the dem wits.

    10. The Redhawk says

      As usual Tiger….DEAD CENTER BULLS EYE!!!

      1. Tiger says

        Thank you.

    11. Obie Miller says

      Amen, Tiger!!! This is clear evidence of how left wing and anti-constitutional our mainstream news media has become!…..and I really can think of no better way to incite more “gun violence” than to try to take away our right to legally possess guns! Since that is how those who run ABC really feel, I think that ALL gun owners should immediately boycott ABC——I most certainly will!!

      1. Tiger says

        I don’t think too many of us even watch any of the Main Media anyway my friend. They are barking up the wrong trees because ours is the trees of liberty now if they want it watered with their tyrannical red stuff, sometimes that is necessary. I know you get my gist.

        1. Obie Miller says

          Tiger, I always enjoy seeing your posts! The ONLY reason I ever watch the mainstream news media is to try to stay advised of their manipulative tricks. I try to obtain most of my useful information by reading posts and replies from reasonable, conservative people such as you!

          1. MAHB001 says

            There is something you can do about the corruption. Join and help us stop MEDIA bias Now…

          2. Mathew Molk says

            I have been with ya for quite some time. my friend. Everybody else should do likewise.

            – Just for the record folks. We all spend a lot of time here bitching about the NWO Marxists. MAHB001 is actually trying to DO something about it. God bless you MAH.

          3. MAHB001 says

            God Bless you too!

            Together WE are going to do something about it!

          4. Tiger says

            Well thank you so much and to be informed we have to hold our gag reflect and watch and listen to the other media.

        2. Ursus_Indomitus says

          You mean the Marx Stream Media?

          1. Tiger says

            Oh that is a great one, love it “Marx Stream Media”. Thousands of thumbs up.

          2. Ursus_Indomitus says

            I can’t take credit for it. I heard John B. Wells say it. You should check him out on Youtube and on his site.

          3. Tiger says

            Well you shared it and it needed sharing so you are an honest and admirable poster. Thank you.

        3. Mathew Molk says

          Or the absolutely lousy shows they have put out for the last several years.

          We do need to water the tree, though. Just with the way the President and the Trump Train is going we will be facing a tyrant shortage before too long.

          1. Tiger says

            LOLOL what a wonderful thought, “Tyrant Shortage.” But I tell you this, my friend if Trump doesn’t get this investigation on Hillary and many others, then the American people will know that there is no justice for Americans and we will sooner or later go the UN Agenda 21/2030 and One World Order way.


      2. Mathew Molk says

        Too late. I shut them down well over 3 years ago, Maybe lounger, in fact.

    12. tCotUS says

      Tiger…CNN/ABC/MSNBC are the Bad Guys…

    13. Charles Wolfe jr says

      Hopefully this sinks in to some anti-gunners ! Thanks for the post Tiger.

      1. Tiger says

        Welcome Charles, too bad they don’t understand what history has shown happens to countries when only the government is armed. Europe surely getting it’s due. They now want their guns.

        1. Charles Wolfe jr says

          Yes, I was raised around guns & even been shot but I could never be against guns. Your knowledge of most things amazes me.

          1. Tiger says

            Well thank you for me to amaze a man of your caliber is a compliment.

          2. Charles Wolfe jr says

            Thank you back. What I said was meant very much to be a compliment. Your knowledge of things far surpasses what a lot so-called college professors think they know.

    14. kv2109 says

      To answer your 1st question, It would lead to every place becoming the next Chicago…

      1. Tiger says

        Exactly. Imagine what the terrorists in America would do in malls, churches, schools, neighborhoods, bloodbath while the elites sit up in their ivory towers watching. The bad guys, including terrorists never kill those who are leaders.

    15. ernldo says

      Leftist demotards only go for the low hanging fruit (no, I’m not talking young boys)….Pass a law and move on. They never consider enforcement.

      1. Tiger says

        LOLOL like the satire. The laws are already there. Criminals don’t follow laws.

    16. mrpoohead says

      Think you’ll find most mass shootings are dumb white folk and black gangs.

    17. Terry Jensen says

      Hey girl…you are correct again!!! Sh-t is about to hit the fan but it is not what we are expecting. I see some light at the end of the tunnel…all these gun grabbers etc. are about to hit the wall. This Country is not dead and in fact is about to show these ignorant politicians that our ‘Constitution’ is about to be revived to the fullest and this WILL shut these jerks up or they will take a bad fall!!!! Exciting times!!!

      1. Tiger says

        Hi there Terry it is coming down the pike.

    18. Judy Gilder says

      Guns DON’T kill, people do!!!!

      1. Tiger says

        Yepper. Leave a loaded AK 47 out in the yard and I can assure you nobody will be killed by it, unless someone picks it up and shoots someone.

    19. Richard Start says

      Be very carful when you walk down the tails of racism they can make the most intelligent man or women a fool and leave them feeling like they know life’s secret’s! The same can be said of statistics or any numbers when used to prove a point, confidence men have used them for years to earn a living (poncey scheme) If you look up black on black homicides 2014 you will come across a number of charts that make your numbers look pitiful. If your are more aware you may also notice that even on line there seems to be a battle to prove the point one way or the other creating a variety of numbers games which tells me more that people are interested in starting fight then are interested in getting along which is a revelation in and of itself. Do we become part of the Old Malcom X idea before he went to Mecca and saw how people could get along or do we realize Dr. Martin King was right and work towards his goals with renewed effort? Do we build towards a future or tear down the foundation we already have? Does America Become Ferguson and Syria or can we do better then that? Are you a builder?

      1. Tiger says

        It isn’t racist to know the truth and to tell it. It appears that the racists and bigots today are the blacks, look to BLM, the kneeling NFL so they best be careful when they walk down those trails of racism because we won’t take it.

        Look to Chicago, that is just one city, those stats don’t lie. Black on black killing happens daily.

        I am an educated person who does my research and we already are Ferguson, so who was rioting there? Who has been rioting across America since Trump one and before? As to Syria Assad like his father a murdering dictator. America is not run by a Dictator and we are a Republic.

        MLK long gone along with everything he stood for.

        1. Richard Start says

          Our Founder’s are long gone but many of us still stand up for the ideas they stood for! As long as any good man or woman is willing to stand up for righteous and good ideas that are better for our country then the destructive ones offered by hateful bigots they are still with us! Do we build a country that functions or one that rips apart at the seams? Who cares if Obama and his cronies drove wedges into our society are we going to help them succeed or work that much harder to cement those cracks that have formed? Keep delivering the hammer blows to their wedges but examine what happened to countries like Bosnia-Herzegovina or Syria! Are those the examples of America you want for our future or will you fight to create a better one for us? Division created those counties and their destructive behavior. But we also can’t follow blindly down the European path which means we need or own path! MLK and those coming into our country must learn by example from us! How can they if we are not? This is no easy path for them or for us.

          1. Tiger says

            It was Obama who drove the wedge, who opened wounds, it is the Democrat party that makes sure those wounds don’t heal again and the Democrat party who encourages the black community to be distructive to it’s own people. We have seen in the NFL that influence and that attitude by blacks who are 70% of the NFL, their hatred for this country is seething and exploding and it surely was under control and going a better route under the leadership of MLK.

            We again, are not a Dictatorship, we are not going to allow Socialism the road to Communism to take our country. So you are all wet and obviously oblivious to what our Republic is.

          2. Richard Start says

            At this point it is too late to worry about who started what as if we were children attempting to blame our sibling for the fight in the kitchen and those actions are pointless! What matters now is repairing the damage so we do not go down the paths towards Communism or any further towards Socialism then we have already and that will require team work. How do you build team work? It does not happen by hammering on the wedges put in place by Obama and the Democrat’s does it? If we can’t repair that damage the up hill battle will be that much harder. Pick your battles in life and choose who carefully who you will make an enemy of!

          3. Tiger says

            No it is not too late to lay out who it was that did the damage. The damage was done by a representative of a certain party and they cannot be allowed to continue in that vein.

            Team work is a systematic process. Laying out the problem, recognizing who is repsonsible for the problem, understanding the problem, looking to how to solve the problem, making a plan to solve the problem and making sure that you have enough knowledgeable people to solve the problem. Getting a campaign in this situation to make sure those responsible for the problem are in the spotlight, not let off the hook, pushed to the wall until their guts spill out.

            I picked my battle and I am a a Combat Support nurse since 1988 and served in 2 wars, I know more about leadership, how to fight any enemy than you do so save it for someone who gives a damn about your peacenik shit.

          4. Richard Start says

            I don’t remember the General’s name from Ramstein during Desert Shield but during the build up we had so much stuff working it’s way through our base that Christmas it was a mad house with the whole base involved moving pallets and loading aircraft just like we practiced in exercise after exercise only this one kept going. That man came up with some corn ball encouragements to keep us at it and I could not see how he expected them to work but as I listened to the people beside me they were working! I knew or thought I knew his words were fluff but they meant enough to the people I was working with to keep them going when they were all in! You knock me all you want you nd toot your experience. That is OK. Save your giving up for someone else. Two wrongs will never make right and you can’t fight racism with racism. Knelling for the flag doesn’t cut it sinc it calls an entire nation racist, he blew it! This only means when we addess he issue we must not blow it! Use that education to make your statement’s along those lines. If you attack an action you don’t support cut out the race in any way possible or minimize it! We are either American’s or a bunch of separate groups. There are more American’s

          5. Tiger says

            Anyone who kneels is not doing it for righteousness but standing with BLM who began with taking up for thugs.

            The only Racism in this country today is shown daily by blacks.

            Sorry you can’t get that but I tell you this, the majority of us do and we won’t give our attention, money or our backing to thugs.

            Sadly we are a bunch of separate groups.

          6. Richard Start says

            Are you my daughter? She is the only other one I know I can talk with and agree with but we sound like we disagree! It blew my son’s my mind to hear us talk like that one day. “Dad you both agree but you sound like you’re arguing, how?” He asked me with eyes wide. I agree the football player’s need to stand and think when they kneel it is an insult to all American’s calling all of us racist! These guys need to look in the mirror truth be told. I mean who invented the wording “not black enough”? There is a community with issues. There not even sure if they like themselves it seems. This mess stated because I pointed out instead of making strong racist comments we do better to focus on ideas and concepts! Racism creates a smoke screen on both sides confusing important issues and drawing us into discussions that will not solve our problems. Stay focused on the issues and keep hatful wording out of it where you can find another way express yourself! the page has no race creed or color! here we are all equal and need to express ourselves that way to present better ideas, discussions or arguments. Don’t degrade yourself in your first line.

          7. Tiger says

            I will tell it like I see it and you don’t like it then go somewhere else. I don’t degrade myself by fighting fire with fire, not bowing down to the insults and those hating me. I am not Chamberlain, I am not going to concede to fight my battles anyway but my way.

            There is no discussions or arguments with these people. There is a huge divide and Obama helped create it. They need to wake-up to reality that they are millionaires because they live in this free country and people died to keep it free and are still dying to keep it free.

            When my children were wrong, I corrected them and they were punished. These NFL black players and others are acting like children. They get away with it, they get a slap on the wrist, but no punishment fitting the crime. Not me Racist or Bigoted but them, all of them including BLM in case you haven’t been reading about the White hatred going around.

            If they were white I would say the same things, in the same way, but you try to tell me I have to talk differently to someone due to their color. Go away.

          8. Chi Sam says

            Our founder’s ‘what’ are long gone? Please…finish your thought.

          9. Richard Start says

            This was a play on Edmund Burke’s “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” As long as good men do something… It was a leading thought, some may have taken it to where it was leading while others would just get lost. It was not meant for everyone to understand.

          10. Chi Sam says

            What are you going on about, you dimwitted oaf? Others get lost. Not meant for everyone.

            What does any of that self-aggrandizing nonsense have to do with your being too stupid to know that the common word ‘founders’ is a simple plural and only an ignoramus would shoehorn an apostrophe into the word?

            Why do you laughably stupid men always run your mouths about what you deem others do not ‘get’? You’re an idiot, Richard. You’re a real fool.

          11. Richard Start says

            Dear Lord God please find it with in your heart to help this poor soul find peace in his life. I feel he is a tortured soul who needs to find a better path in life to find happiness in thought and deed. Dark thoughts don’t make people feel better and surround them in a cloud of misery. Who wants to live that way? look for a nicer crowd of people to hang out with, not so involved in hatful ways.

          12. Chi Sam says

            Hatful is not a word. You’re stupid. Shut up, stupid…and move on. There are many more people out there that you can fail to impress.

      2. Chi Sam says

        The common word ‘then’ refers to a specific point in time, and nothing else. Do you not find it extremely odd, that you have had the word ‘than’ in your vocabulary since you were a child yet seem to have no use for it?

  5. gotabgood says

    UH OH… there is that nasty word…. you better start praying harder to your god….

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  7. Raeman Haines says

    Seems that ABC News has their collective heads jammed up a body cavity that shall remain un-named .

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Dose it rhyme with glass?

  8. 4freedom says

    The old adage is very true, “When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns” need proof, look at Chicago.

    1. Scuttlebutt says

      Yep—AND, don’t forget “Black Lives Matter”—-when almost all murders in Chicago, were done by “black’s killing black’s—that certainly should make us all happy:) Let them keep on killing each other, because—after all—“Black Lives Matter”:):):)

  9. Donald Lindsey says

    Even the most liberal of liberal Democrats in Washington, D.C. will go out of their way to tell Americans that they have no interest – NONE – in going into people’s homes and taking away their guns. They are LIARS, liberals/socialist want s to control (RULE) the people like any other dictatorship of an third world country where the people has no rights even against self-defense from a dictator who believes that the people are low-life’s and educated to care for themselves. Liberals does believe in law, rights or the Constitution/Freedom buy rather control over everyone.

    They are Traitors, Murderers and Terrorists. USMC and damn proud.

    To disarm we the people is an Assault of murder and rape against us. So to all bull shi* Anti-Americans I say this “HELL NO and GO TO HELL or a muslim country. You come = you die!

    1. superpicker says

      10-4 !!! , now thats what I’m talkin about!!!

    2. Robert inguaggiato says

      Amen brother

    3. Scuttlebutt says

      Me an thee Brother:) Round up all of the muslims & kick their ass out of the USA. Their own bible teaches them to kill us—-what does that tell you?

  10. Arnold Young says

    Darn fools!!! Take away the guns and you get a dictatorship Just ask Hitler and then ask the people how that works out?

    1. ABO says

      Gotabamoron strictly follows the example of the heroes of the left, Hitler, Stalin Mao Tse Tung Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh et al. The left is determined to disarm all honest, law abiding citizens. gotabamoron is a sick, twisted lemming for those who wish to destroy the American way of life nd institute a one-party dictatorial form of government having full control of its citizenry who would be entirely unable to fight back as they will have been disarmed by the left under the auspices of fighting crime.

      1. Scuttlebutt says

        ABO—-I wonder how many years this person spent in a “war zone” defending our Country? I am an American USN retired Veteran & am proud to have served the best Country in the world—the USA. I was in a war zone in Vietnam—3 tours on gun boats. BUT—-agent orange is killing me now & our government can’t do a thing to stop it. Nor can any Doctor I have seen:( BUT—I am still OK with that. I have had a good 73 year life so far & still proud of what I did. MAGA

        1. Mathew Molk says

          Welcome home brother. I’m class of 68. MAGA

        2. ABO says

          Was that you out there in Haiphong Harbor lobbing the big stuff over our heads? I’ve got to say, Scuttlebutt that gotabamoron doesn’t amount to a pimple on the ass of our heroes like you. I really feel really bad that the agent orange has got you and our hopes and prayers go out to you and your family. You are a true hero to this great nation and I want you to know that regardless of the rantings of clowns like gotabamoron, your selfless service is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

    2. SDofAZ says

      True, the government of the rinos and dem wits would put the citizens of this country in a third world hell in short order run by the NWO and other nefarious freedom hating liberals from around the world.

      1. Mathew Molk says

        Getting rid of the RINOs is even more important the running the NWO Marxists (aka democrats) down the road.

  11. Michael Dennewitz says

    Ome very profound thing the dumbasscrats have opened our eyes to – NONE of us ever thought humans could be so damned stupid! 😣 I doubt that ANYONE in government even knows how many motorcycle gangs there are roaming this country, just waiting…..and waiting…. Sure, let’s say the dumbasses succeed in confiscation of most of our firearms. Then, like many have said, only the damned criminals will have them. Tell ya what, judge’s orders or not, THEY WILL NEVER TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!

    1. Valor says

      The radical left intends to take away ALL rights.

      1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

        Right on: the left (Media Matters) is trying to shut down conservative views and unbiased news reports. Check out Hannity last nights program. Free speech is under attack at schools, also.
        The communist marxists cannot succeed with an educated free society as in the USA.

        1. Mathew Molk says

          Sorry there Sailor. No reasonable person wold call many of the kids today coming out of schools educated. – I don’t know if it’s still on but if not see if you can get a few re-runs of Water’s World. The dumbest kids always seem to come from Harvard and other Ivy league schools. And he claims he dose not edit to get only the dumb ones. —- World War eleven! The Civil war ended in 1946! —- You got to be shitting me.

      2. SDofAZ says

        “Try” is the operative word here.

  12. John McClain says

    We are not talking about “people’s Constitutional Rights”, the constitution only enumerate a few of our Natural, God Given rights. The Constitution is the Rule of Law over Government, and it belongs to “The People”, it is ours, over government, and against every level of government, from township to the fascist central government, evolved from the establishment of corporations, again, as “persons before the law”.
    No corporation could afford to grow beyond it’s evidence of well handled business, and full respect for the contract, because we, America, didn’t subscribe to the British notion of businesses being people.
    When a corporation went bankrupt, any debt not satisfied by “corporate holdings, at auction”, was demanded from stock holders, giving good reason to take great care.
    Under President Monroe, the Supreme Court heard arguments, long coming, suggesting the investors weren’t responsible for their corporation’s errors, or failures, and they were given personhood status for the purpose of debt, default, and releasing stockholders from responsibility. Our “national standard” established with our constitution, was based on the notion everyone invested in a venture is in due part, responsible for what a particular venture does, or fails to fulfill.
    With this enormous change came America’s first international corporations, and like “the Dutch East Indies Company”, there is no accountability, and corporations as “persons” can donate millions to campaigns, be used politically, illegally, and then be destroyed by government, for violating law, all with no accounting to “stock holders”.
    We have a fascist government solely because of this act, and its impact on the control of politics, with corporate cronyism added to the mix.
    When asked, President Washington stated, “all the terrible instruments of war are a Citizen’s birthright, they are The People’s Liberty Teeth”. Is anyone foolish enough to think the same kind of person who perpetrates murder at large won’t take effort to get in political office?
    Semper Fidelis,
    John McClain
    GySgt, USMC, ret.
    Vanceboro, NC

  13. Mike says

    More conservative right wing fake news.

    1. Joseph Carrilho says

      Take a hike, Bozo.

      1. Mike says

        Bozo you must have me confused with the Redheaded buffoon in the white house.

    2. Valor says

      Mother drop you on your head as an infant?

      1. Mike says

        No… but thanks for your concern.
        Boo… thier comimg to get you

  14. Mary Clouse says

    OH! is that right,come and get them,pry them out of our
    cold dead hands.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      And we will be out of bang before they get us.

  15. VirgoVince says

    UP YOURS, abc!!

  16. razorback715 says

    Heil ABC News!

  17. MILES E DRAKE says

    The party of Hillary. Hpdgkinson and Hatred wants to disarm the citizens who oppose them so that native-born English-speaking heterosexual Christians and political conservatives can be exterminated and replaced with a brown Third World lumpenproletariat that will keep in permanent power and luxury a marxist and metrosexual oligarchy of pointy heads, hanky heads and kinky heads. The left and its media shills need to understand that the confiscation of lawful firearms from law-abiding citizens will result in a civil war that most so-called progressives will not survive.

  18. Jeffrey Cahoon says

    Confiscation of guns by the government is totally unacceptable! That is exactly how Hitler started his Bull****! We the People cannot and will not, let this happen! I am 70 years old, and I don’t have long here, but I implore the people, if this is allowed to happen, this government will have total control of your every move, much as they do now, but much, much worse! Guns do not kill people, people kill people!

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Brother Jeff. – Longer then you think. I’ll be 71 next month. They are projecting another 30 plus miserable years for us. God help us, Nobody else will.

  19. Jmanjo says

    ABC once again proves how damn stupid they are by even repeating this garbage. It amazes me how the media in our own country is so hell bent on taking our freedoms from us. Especially when it takes away from our personal security as well as our rights! The Boston Globe and the ABC are becoming domestic terrorists themselves by advertising the confiscation our our defenses! It is time for Americans to reject these fools and remove them from a position to further push their agenda!

    1. Valor says

      Yeah, once one Constitutionally protected liberty goes, they all go. That includes freedom of the press!!

    2. Robert inguaggiato says

      They don’t even realize they are advocating for their own demise. Brainless!

      1. Mathew Molk says

        Not the way you think, though. They are running themselves into the ground.

        MAGA of get run over by the Trump Train.

    3. ARJAY says

      They are too STUPID to understand that the 2nd Amendment PROTECTS THEIR 1st Amendment PROTECTIONS to publish their UNEDUCATED $hi+!!

    4. Mathew Molk says

      They never had a chance. This is just more hot air and it is showing more and more people just how stupid and Un-American they are. All they are doing is driving more people onto the Trump Train.

      MAGA or get run over.

  20. Tired... says

    Sieg heil ABC…this has been the goal all along. This is the road to fascism, not freedom.

    1. ABO says

      Absolutely correct and well said, Tired.

      1. Tired... says

        Thanks ABO

  21. lynda says

    That would be a civil war.

  22. gingergirl says

    There is only ONE reason why the government wants to take away your guns.

    1. Mike W says

      Control the media and schools, take away guns and religion – sounds familiar.

      1. Mathew Molk says

        They already got the media and schools. Our weapons are all we have left. Good luck trying to take them away.

        1. Mike W says

          What the Democrats failed miserably to realize is how many former (?) Democrats are Legal gun owners and members of the NRA.

  23. ZACAL says

    Guns are personal property, guns have monetary value, confiscating that value to satisfy political views of a few misguided activists won’t happen. It’s impossible to gather up 300 million guns. Next would be a huge gun black market to follow. History has proven black markets never fail, they just linger on and get stronger. Think about liquor prohibition, tobacco, drugs, nothing slows down the demand, unless the government decides to control those markets themselves. It boils down to a legal free market or a black market. Government has zero control over black markets.

  24. Mike W says

    Then the pinheads at ABC should go out and try to collect them. What do they propose kicking in doors and rummaging through homes and businesses looking for guns? Didn’t the Nazi’s do that?

    1. Valor says

      They did! Not just the Nazis. Every totalitarian regime has always done that.

      1. Mike W says

        I just used the Nazi’s as an example because the left wing morons are always calling President Trump a Nazi – I guess that’s the only term they know. I have also wondered if they understood their hero and benefactor George Soros was a Nazi collaborator

        1. Mathew Molk says

          Actually, in Germany it did not happen exactly that way but if every time the gestapo or SS came to take the Jews away they were met at the door by a couple of guys with guns I don’t think the outcome would have been the same. In fact I think the Jews would have eventually banned together and Himmler might have been told to forget about it.

  25. millerstwo says

    The Marxist Democrats are chipping away at our Constitutional rights a little bit at a time my friends.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      And us deplorables are getting them back every day.

      MAGA or get run over by the Trump Train

  26. Valor says

    The Founding Fathers included the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights as a last line of defense against the tyranny of government they know would eventually rear its head. The radical left understands the kind of government they envision world wide mandates an unarmed society. This benefits that kind of government in three ways. One, an unarmed society is easier to control. Two, a society unable to protect itself becomes even more dependent on government for at least the illusion of protection. (That further empowers government). Protection that can be provided based on how loyal subjects the people are. Three, the GOVERNMENT is the only power that has arms. History clearly shows how that always works out. Totalitarianism! Genocide! But the real issue here is not about guns at all. The REAL issue is if the Constitution and Bill of Rights are still relevant in America, worth the paper they are written on. The leftist agenda and individual liberty can not co-exist! For socialism to function individual liberty must be sacrificed. Fact of life! The Left owns the Demorat Party lock, stock and barrel. They claim to be defenders of civil rights, but in truth nothing is further from the truth. As I said, for the kind of government the left wants individual liberties can not exist. Disarming the people is one of the most crucial goals that must be secured. Once the 2nd Amendment is rendered null and void the rest of the Bill of Rights will soon follow. We are already witnessing attacks on freedom of speech, religion, due process. Precious few realize the dangers ahead. For those that cling to the naive believe “It can’t happen here”, the peoples of every great nation and civilization that have disappeared throughout history thought the same thing. America is NOT immune to the tides of history,

    1. ABO says

      Thank you Valor for that well stated and absolutely factual post. It is so refreshing to read your honest and thoughtful remarks after reading the utterly dishonest, deceitful drivel put out by the likes of gotabgood, Bill O’Neil and chucky. I agree with you entirely and appreciate your ethical and straightforward handling of the subject. Again, thank you very much.

      1. Valor says

        Thank you for the kind words. They are much appreciated.

    2. Robert inguaggiato says

      The difference in the great country of The United States of America there are still an overwhelming number of citizens ready and willing to fight to the death if necessary to retain the freedom that the constitution guarantees and so many before us have laid down their lives to defend

      1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

        Your right!

        There are millions of retired & former military that feel as you do. They are waiting in the shadows to be called back to duty. We all took the oath to defend the Constitution and against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. Not one veteran was required to renounce that oath when departing the military. They have had buddies that died for their country and will continue that legacy in civilian clothes. Its in our blood to fight for our families’ freedoms. We will not stand by and watch this great land disintegrate into a marxist police state.

        1. Mathew Molk says

          My Vietnam brother. Did you know that there were just under 3 million of us that actually were in country veterans. (Although at last count there are 14 million that CLAIM they were there, but that’s a different story. The fact is that over a million of us are dead too. That makes just over 1 million of us left from Vietnam. That’s the hard cruel fact.

          My point is there are no where near the number of experienced combat veterans who actually ever fired a shot in anger then most people seem to think. Only a few million at the outside, and most of us are 60 and 70 years old and up. I’m not sure how my back and legs would respond to a 60 pound Ruck any more, although I am still more then a passable shot and would kill an enemy without any emotion. Just there is a lot more to combat than that and i’d say I’d be next to worthless as an 11 bravo rifleman.

      2. Mathew Molk says

        Are there? I can speak for myself and i know what I would do. (did it before, more then once) but I see so many people that won’t even stop to help a kid on a bicycle that was hit. There are a lot of people that will stand up and be counted, but then there are even more that will stand there and “let somebody else do it”

  27. tony says


    1. Valor says

      Australians thought that too.

  28. My country says

    I just got through contacting the idiot from Texas John Cornyn about him lining up with the democrat to do just what the democrats want . To take our guns .This jerk thinks he is God and is trying to help the democrats take us out .

  29. SIRWIZARD says

    NEWSFLASH, ABC! Gun confiscation is the key to revolution. That would redefine your idea of ‘gun violence’.

  30. RE says

    You want to disarm citizens who have their guns legally without thought to doing it, would leave only the bad guys with the guns. Now what would that lead to? Not the deaths of our congressmen/women and those who have security around the clock. Only we the common citizen would be stripped of any protection against the evil in America.

    1. Valor says

      Not just the bad guys with guns! The GOVERNMENT as well. Think about that!

  31. daveveselenak says

    How much longer are the sheeple, the dumb-(m)asses that they are going to remain in a state of denial, I guess it is easy since most of them are so drugged-up, ( illegal drugs, pharmaceuticals and legal marijuana ) crack-like politically infested sports and (entertainment?) junkies , dumbed-down, PC bullied and brainwashed that they don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground! Smell the roses, or in this case smell the fuk’n democ-RATS, now the Communist Party USA! They aren’t even trying to be discreet anymore as they have become so cocky that they have prevailed that sh^t such as this is standard operating procedure and the sheeple are accepting it!
    Don’t you think by now with all of the false flags and terrorist attacks such as the latest one that the Godless, Satan worshipping, power-mad NWO-elitist ghouls – “McShame” being one of them – have let occur that these devilish treacherous bastards are in cahoots with them or at last are purposely allowing to happen, can there be any other possible explanation as to why they want to keep letting these Muslim terrorists into our country?
    That no good, Uncle Fester looking and thinking treacherous bastard, Manchurian candidate ” McShame” has the nerve to go to the Naval Academy and diss America and preach the NWO agenda an he is applauded, what the fuk is wrong with sheeple? Here is a SOB, like the rest of the NWO-elitist ghouls that are so removed from the terrorist playing fields, that talks about tearing down walls as he lives in a walled mansion, like all other of his NWO-elitist cohorts, has armed security twenty-four hours a day and never has to mingle with the Muslim terrorists that they are using to gain more control of the sheeple while getting rid of those not deserving of using up precious resources that are to be only allocated for them! You have to be one dumb MF’er not to see this transpiring right before your very eyes on a daily basis!
    The reality is this: unless or until these Godless, Satan worshipping, power-mad, NWO-elitist ghouls are informed that we are on to them and let them know in no uncertain terms that we are not going to put up with their satanic plans any longer and if they refuse to heed our warning then: REVOLUTION will be the ultimate SOLUTION, not against each other but against them! Armr==============================? – – – – , we will be needing them; that is why we are experiencing all of these mass shooting false flags to disarm “US” and all of these useful terrorist attacks to harm “US”.

    Interestingly, in his book, Advocate and Activist, CPUSA attorney John Abt writes openly about the CPUSA in the American political system, saying its role “was to push the Democratic Party to the left.” Abt notes that the two CPUSA members elected to Congress, Johnny Bernard from Minnesota and Hugh DeLacy from Washington State, were elected as Democrats. DeLay had close personal relations with Leon Panetta, the former leftist Congressman who became Obama’s Secretary of Defense and CIA director.
    Over time, the Democratic Party abandoned its anti-communism, and various members of its Progressive Caucus openly embraced Castro. In 2008 and again in 2012, the CPUSA openly backed Barack Hussein Obama for president. CPUSA insiders knew that Obama had been groomed for his career by a suspected Soviet espionage agent by the name of Frank Marshall Davis. In effect, the Russians had captured the U.S. presidency.
    The list of favors to the Russians is a long one. Obama and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton carried forward a variety of pro-Russian policies, ranging from the Uranium One deal to the New START Treaty cutting America’s nuclear arsenal.
    Hence, the “Trump is a Russian agent” investigation launched by Obama and carried forward by Russia-gate Special Counsel Robert Mueller is a complete diversion. What the Russians have done is mount a disinformation operation to protect their agents of influence in the Obama Administration and the Democratic Party. That’s where the treason can be found.
    We saw this kind of misdirection before in regard to the JFK assassination. Former communist spy chief Pacepa notes that the Soviets tried to mask their connection to Oswald through a sophisticated disinformation and propaganda campaign called “Dragon Operation.” They spawned such bizarre conspiracies as that JFK was murdered by LBJ, his vice-president, or the CIA, or right-wingers in Dallas.
    At the same time, the Soviets dispatched a Soviet “defector” by the name of Yuri Nosenko to the U.S. after the assassination. Among other things, he told the CIA that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a Soviet agent. Eventually, the CIA accepted his fantastic claims, with then-CIA director Michael Hayden giving Nosenko a ceremonial flag and official letter of thanks before his death in 2008.
    As a result, the Russians have never been held responsible for this monstrous crime

  32. tCotUS says

    ABC/MSNBC/CNN/NYT ……Best get out of the Anti-Constitution ring….We know who they’re owners/managers are, do they plan on seeking asylum elsewhere?

  33. George T Horvat says

    I don’t get it! Don’t these Globalists understand that Hillary would have a hard time finding assassins to kill her enemies if all guns are confiscated? If that ever happens she will then have to hire foreign assassins because our local assassins would have to use knives and that would make their job much more difficult.

  34. George E. LeFebvre says

    Another looney who obviously thinks like Odumbo and Hitler. Unarm the population and then open the concentration camps. These media guys are all mentally deranged when they are dumb enough to even suggest such an idiotic idea.

  35. The Redhawk says

    IS ABC becoming the Progressives Lying TYRANTS wannabe’s Mouth piece for their “DREAM “to Confiscate, Capture, imprison all Patriots so that their Communists and Anarchists can LOOK.. Burn.. Invade , round up and SCARE the American FREE people?? Please send little GEORGIE Stephanopulus to my door to “CONFISCATE” and send someone to pick up what’s left

  36. HarryTC says

    What ABC doesn’t realize is that if the Democratic Fascist Party (known as Democrats) were to get their way they would be expected to “pay the price”. Remember those killed who might have been able to defend themselves have the right to exact penalties against ABC.

  37. David in Michigan says

    Would ABC object to treating the 1st Amendment in a similar fashion wherein a news organization could lose their broadcast facilities if they irresponsibly broadcast fake news?

  38. higgy01 says

    I live in Maryland. Baltimore is on it’s way to setting a record for firearm related homicides this year. I will wager that every firearm used was illegal that means 100%. All gun laws do is make it more difficult for honest, responsible citizens to obtain weapons for protection. “Gun free zones” that the libtards tout are another myth. All they do is give wackos and terrorists free reign to shoot whoever they want.

  39. William L. Ramsburg says


  40. ernldo says

    Confiscation? You want to see some serious “gun” violence, try that….

    1. superpicker says

      oh yea, come git ya some , c’mon c’mon c’mon , 10-4!!!

    2. Mathew Molk says

      SERIOUS,,,,gun violence, But just who are they going to get to come try to take our weapons? The Military would never obey such an unlawful order and the police don’t have the horsepower to take on over half the people in the country. – Most cops are on our side anyway.

      1. ernldo says

        I’m hoping the traitor leftists send antifa, black panthers or maybe the blue helmets…then it will fun.

  41. ernldo says

    Needs updating, but….
    In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln,
    President of the United States.
    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield,
    President of the United States who later died from the wound.
    In 1963 a radical left wing Democrat socialist shot and killed John F.
    Kennedy, President of the United States.
    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
    In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and
    killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
    In 1986 Patrick Sherrill,a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10
    people at a GMAC office.
    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, TX.
    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
    In 1999 Larry Ashbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
    In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung-Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people at Virginia Tech.
    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
    In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.
    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat named Aaron Alexis shot 12 at the Washington Navy Shipyard in Washington, D.C.


    – Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.
    – Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter

    – James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu­py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

    – Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
    – Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat

    – James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.

    Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.
    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

    1. William L. Ramsburg says


    2. ARJAY says

      BAN ALL democRATS from owning firearms!!

      Political party affiliation should be in the background check!

      Since leftist, libTURD democRATS are afflicted with a serious MENTAL condition, they ALL should be banned for LIFETIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      99.44% solved (crimes committed with firearms, especially those with the CHAIN SAW attachment)!!

  42. ARJAY says

    Confiscate THEIR right to THEIR free speech!!

    1. superpicker says

      YES SIR!!!

    2. Mathew Molk says

      Love it!

  43. jcgreen2 says

    If the government tries to take our guns there will a revolution like the one which started our great nation, when the British came to disarm the citizens in America. We will fight to the death to prevent it from happening!

  44. MAHB001 says

    Dictators say that Gun confiscation is the key to stopping gun violence……

    1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

      The only ones with guns will be the storm troopers. They can’t control the American population without a total police state.

      1. Mathew Molk says

        And, again. Good luck with that. Just how many active duty and separated military do you think would go along with that anyway? No chance, get it, No friggin chance.

    2. mrpoohead says

      No they don’t!

      1. MAHB001 says

        Really? You talking from experience? Or are you trying that old tired denial thing?

        “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

        If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.
        —Joseph Stalin

        1. mrpoohead says

          Lenin didn’t say that and you have provided no date for Stalin quote – could have been about the Nazis or Japanese in WWII – seems quite reasonable then.

          Another dumb comment for MoronsAssholesHyperbole&BS001. Whoop!

          1. MAHB001 says

            It is the truth regardless of who said it… Would you prefer that I take credit for it? I will

            One man with a gun can ctonrol 100 without one.”

            Prove me wrong.

          2. mrpoohead says

   No date or source.

            As you are the totalitarian communist please be my guest – technically stupid comment unless the gun carries over 100 bullets. Duh!

          3. MAHB001 says

            If that is all you got you have already lost.

          4. mrpoohead says

            Won – no date, no reference, not him. And I don’t really care, just more substanc eto my suspicion that you have nothing but hyperbole and BS on anything. Fail!

          5. MAHB001 says

            says the guy who upvotes himself….

          6. mrpoohead says

            Amuses me, confounds the retards – your on the list.

          7. ABO says

            I find it extremely difficult to imagine that any adult in this day and age can be so pathetically stupid as you are yet you continue to prove your idiocy with every post. Congratulations, Dimwit.

          8. mrpoohead says

            Amazed you can imagine anything. Can you find a discrepancy with anything I have said and back it up with a reputable reference? I only use facts – well documented facts. You’re the dimwit.

          9. ABO says

            There is absolutely no doubt that you are the dim bulb in this chandelier. As far as facts are concerned, you make it quite clear that you believe, without reservation that anything you happen to see on the internet is absolute fact and you use those “facts” to promote your idiotic argument with MAHB who quoted Stalin and you continue to “prove” that ‘Lenin never said that’. Again, congratulations, Dimwit.

          10. mrpoohead says

            Comprehension not your thing? Two quotes, the Lenin one is false – internet not required, wife did history at Oxford. Dimwit!

          11. ABO says

            MAHB only cited one quote, just one, from Stalin. You’re the one that keeps saying Lenin never said it. Nobody claimed that he did, Dimwit. Oh and by the way I could not possibly care any less where you claim your wife went to college or what you claim she studied, however I find it a stretch to think that anyone who attended Oxford would marry a dimwit like you.

          12. mrpoohead says

            “MAHB001 mrpoohead • 3 days ago
            Really? You talking from experience? Or are you trying that old tired denial thing?

            “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

            If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.
            —Joseph Stalin
            •Reply•Share ›”

            His second comment on the page and he’s used it elsewhere. Duh!
            Women lower standards after 30.
            I’ll be waiting on the apology then.
            MAHB rarely uses facts, just hyperbole and BS, much like most of the other idiots here – you’re on the list!
            Suggest you crawl back into the sewer – amazed you found your way out.

          13. Mathew Molk says

            Block that asshole, Bro. I did quite a while back.

          14. MAHB001 says

            I am just going to not respond to the troll anymore.

          15. ABO says

            Typical response from the brainless idiot, Mr. Shithead.

          16. mrpoohead says

            ………………so brainless he hasn’t emitted anything but facts so far which you have failed to refute with reputable reference. Should have called myself MrFactoid but seems a bit pompous. Still could be worse I could be a native Australian – Abo!

          17. ABO says

            No point debating “facts” that you’ve created to promote your agenda with no regard to the truth, much less reality. MAHB quotes Stalin and you go on a rant screaming that Lenin never said that! mrdimwit would have been much more appropriate to say nothing of it being far more accurate, but no worries mate.

          18. mrpoohead says

            No rant – national’s. Lenin didn’t say that or provide date and reference. Stalin’s quote – no context. MAHB says lots of things – little is based on facts. Or prove.

          19. ABO says

            MAHB never said that Lenin said it and you know it but you go on and on about it because you’re nothing but a pathetic troll.

      2. ABO says

        Yes as a matter of fact they do. You obviously need a remedial course in world history.

        1. mrpoohead says

          Please provide link to reputable history book then.

          1. ABO says

            If you can manage it, pick up The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer at your local library then maybe Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, by Dee Brown. That being done go to For a sizeable list of reputable history texts. You might actually learn something, although I won’t hold my breath.

          2. mrpoohead says

            Fail and you’ll have to do better. Hitler didn’t introduce regulation and no quote from any others. Idiot!

          3. ABO says

            So good to hear from you mrdimwit, with another of your idiotic statements of convoluted nonsense. You prove to be more utterly moronic every time you contact the keyboard. Read the book, Dimwit, it just might enlighten even an idiot of your caliber.

          4. mrpoohead says

            Have book and lots more, wife did history at Oxford – suggest you name chapter and page number. Fail!

          5. ABO says

            If indeed you have the book ad have bothered to read it then you know that your denial that Hitler used confiscation of firearms to control the people of Germany at the time. Also, If you own the book and have bothered to read it you should know ‘chapter and page number. Apparently your wife hasn’t managed to teach you how to read and understand yet.

          6. mrpoohead says

            Obviously you know the chapter is not real. The book is mostly factual but a little “sexed-up” in areas. Here’s some help,
            If you don’t like Wikipedia then I suggest you scroll down to the bottom for their resources and do the research yourself.
            Dictators use brute force and indoctrination to gain/maintain power. Gun regulation is the remit of civilised nations; Switzerland has stringent rules yet high ownership, target shooting very popular. Europeans fair much better at the Olympics in this area than Americans. Rural France has high ownership – they still have stuff to hunt. Urban France – no. Same in Scandinavian countries, in fact they are obligated to cull animals in many areas to maintain balance.
            I will assume your apology will be non-existant like the one over the Lenin quote.
            You’re just another ignorant piece of garbage! Go on crawl back into your hole.

          7. mrpoohead says

            What no apology?

          8. ABO says

            I’m truly sorry that your self esteem is so low that you feel the need to up vote your own comments oh and so sorry that you have such a vast array of metal deficiencies that have not been successfully treated.

          9. mrpoohead says

            “Metal deficiencies” – yes, need more iron.
            Self esteem fine, don’t think iron would help anyway – just amused. I apologize when I am in error but the right wing Nazi lot seem incapable of that. Funny as! Right even when woefully incorrect, am sure you’re a joy to live with – my sympathies for your partner.
            PS Up voting still amuses me and confounds the retards – you know you’re on the list. Duh!

          10. ABO says

            Do you actually not realize that you can be treated for that?

          11. mrpoohead says

            Eat a nail a day! Easy. At last two folk who agree with me – no refuting!

          12. ABO says

            You actually claim that two, not one but two people, agree with YOU??? You really are tremendously hilarious. Is this part of your stand-up routine?

          13. mrpoohead says

            Yes, you and MAHB001 – neither of you have refuted anything I have said so by default are in agreement. Actually that means everybody on these sites believes me, as of today nobody has refuted anything I have said of note. Thanks for the support! Didn’t think that through did you. We’re a double act – you and your cronies are the fall guys – ha, ha, ha!

  45. Garys_opinion says

    The key to stopping gun violence is to enforce existing laws.

    1. Retired says

      Democrat Mayors won’t allow it , plus it is all the cops fault for what is wrong in their cities . Thank Obama for that one !!!

    2. MAHB001 says

      I think gun violence is as unstoppable as violence itself.

      It is a made up term that is designed to lead the unsuspecting towards giving up their rights to keep and bear arms…

  46. Ron Dapo says

    Outrageous and legally UNACCEPTABLE PERIOD..,

  47. Marla Coombs says

    Dems have no problem with taking away the second amendment rights of millions of law abiding Americans, but they have a big problem with a stop-and-frisk policy that is designed to take illegal guns out of the hands of criminals, because we are infringing on their rights. Please explain!

    1. ARJAY says

      They CAN’T explain!!

      Just like they an’t explain how they support MURDERING approximately 60 MILLION innocent preborn babies, but deny the DEATH PENALTY for 1st degree MURDERERS and MASS MURDERERS!!!!


    2. Mathew Molk says

      Great point Maria.

  48. ARJAY says

    To abc, and ALL others pushing their ANTI-2nd Amendment stand;

    They are too STUPID to understand that the 2nd Amendment PROTECTS THEIR
    1st Amendment PROTECTIONS to publish their UNEDUCATED $hi+!!

  49. ARJAY says

    Stopping all the murders, SIMPLE solution, MAKE MURDER ILLEGAL!!

  50. James Andrews says

    Well, screw ABC news! I guess they’ve turned communist as well! Time to buy another rifle!

  51. Murphmeister says

    At the very least, if this were to become law, the burden of proof should be placed upon those who should always bear the burden – the accuser, not the accused. Moreover, since the right to bear arms is a political right, the burden should be more than a mere preponderance of the evidence. Last, strict evidentiary standards should be applied so that hokum science and intuition are inadmissible.

  52. chuckkel says

    Liberalism is a mental disease and since 90 of crime is by democrats, then take their guns, restrict their movement, monitor their actions. Us good people are tired of being targets for nothing.

  53. Vinnie S. says

    Tiger I read your comment through and through and the only thing I would add is the History of the “Gun Grabbing” by Hitler , the “Illegal” Guns possessed by Criminals in Chicago and the Murder rate that exists there ! You are spot on because I would not want us in America to fall prey to unvetted &
    uninvited(Impossible to vet anyway) criminals from any nation who Rape, Maim & Kill with the protection of a Religion or an Ideology that fosters that behavior. Thank You

  54. ZACAL says

    What a sick unofficial statement by a unqualified organization, in this case ABC’s liberal news.

  55. Robert says

    If someone wants to kill, taking guns away won’t stop anything. They would only make it harder for the innocent to protect themselves

  56. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

    Keep Guns out of the hands of deranged killers!

    This explains why there has never been an attempt on Obama.

    In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

    In 1963 a radical left wing socialist (Democrat) shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States .

    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States .

    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States .

    In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, TX .

    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US ..

    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown , CT.

    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

    Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was

    involved in any of these shootings and murders.

    SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

  57. Sarge says

    And Americans once thought that it could never happen here. If the democrats get away with it , it will be the end of all freedoms in America. They will have total control over the people .

    1. Ron C says

      It is called a socialist dictatorial police state…When a citizen votes democrat they are voting for that goal!

  58. Ron C says

    If that is what the reports are selling on ABC, then let the reporters do the confiscating…will see how far they get with that.

  59. Sherry Pennington says

    “Their Word” couldn’t even be used for toilet paper. I swear the left is appearing more and more like the early days of “The Third Reich”! I can’t understand why history isn’t being used as a learning tool. Hitler started out just like what is happening in the progressive movement today. It’s sickening.

  60. Larry Brule says


  61. Charles Wolfe jr says

    To try & disarm law abiding citizens is going to make us outlaws. It will lead to another revolution in this country. That’s the way all my friends feel, with the saying ” From my cold dead hands. We pray it doesn’t go that far but are prepared if it should !!!

  62. Daniel says

    Yep, that is the liberal media at work. Not reporting the news giving opinions.
    Here’s a fun fact for all the media.
    Every one person shot in america today millions more didn’t.
    Every liberal that gets their hands on any kind of weapon is more likely to be the one using it wrong.

    How many in government, media, Hollywood owns guns or a securry guard as protection?
    It’s ok for them to have it. But, not us. Wonder why is that?
    They want to make sure no gus will be pointed back at them under no circumstances.
    Only the fool will say , yeah ,I trust ya.
    Piss on ABC or any other group in their democratic plantation.
    As long as they’re still around.
    My constitution says, I can keep mine.
    They can all go to hell.

  63. Bushmaster0369 says

    This is a little lengthy but hits everything on the head! Politician, Senator Angus King, from Maine said it right. Semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship rifles go back over a hundred years. Any semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship rifle is nothing more than any other semi-automatic hunting and marksmanship rifle except the costume that different people put on their basic semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship weapon. This includes all semi-automatic’s regardless if they are the .22 family, AR family the M16 family, or the AK-47 family plus to many more semi-automatic hunting and competition rifles to count, from all over the world. Some hunters like bi-pods or tri-pods, some want nothing, some like open sights, some like red dot sights, some like scoped weapons, some don’t, some like large capacity magazines some don’t, some like fore grips some don’t, some like different types of butt stocks some don’t, some like different hand guards some don’t, some like an under barrel shotgun some don’t, some like attached flashlights or laser’s some don’t, some like them shiny and some like them black, some like sound suppressors some don’t, and the accessories/costumes put onto basic semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship weapons, are just that costumes and there are hundreds available. They all remain semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship weapons except for the look. Politicians should be made to go to school on weapons so they don’t sound stupid to their constituents! To fear something because of its looks is ridiculous. This train of thought is about as stupid as, “The Seventh Circuit ultimately upheld a ban on many common semiautomatic firearms based on speculation about the law’s potential policy benefits,” Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote “If a broad ban on firearms can be upheld based on conjecture that the public might feel safer (while being no safer at all), then the Second Amendment guarantees nothing….The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons.”
    In America’s culture we have advanced from single shot powder and ball type hunting and marksmanship rifles, to single shot bullet hunting and marksmanship rifles on forward to semi-automatic hunting and marksmanship rifles. There has been, different sizes, different lengths long or short barrels, fat or thin barrels with every imaginable accessory/costume to enable the shooter to bring home the game or to win at his sanctioned rifle competitions. The majority of decent people use their weapons at the ranges perfecting their accuracy, preparing for marksmanship competition, preparing for hunting season and home defense. In marksmanship training you need the same guns as your competitors have or you will lose. REGARDLESS OF THE LOOK OR CAPABILITY, THEY ARE ALL BASICALLY “SEMI-AUTO HUNTING OR MARKSMANSHIP RIFLES, be they .22 caliber or 308 caliber rounds.” Ignorance of our culture of hunting and competition by the Judiciary and our Politicians is very saddening. Big city folks are afraid of guns because all they know or see is people getting held up by guns by some punks! Safety and training is an extremely important role of marksmanship training. That has prepared millions of Americans to better defend their country in the past. Today there is a great necessity for training and the role of the semi-automatic hunting or marksmanship rifle in this training, is indispensable. All gun laws are applicable to the law abiding citizen’s, who follow them to not get in trouble. The gangs, black muslims, and the muslims, and a few nuts won’t abide by them. Regardless of what law is passed, the authorities are never going to get rid of all the guns. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! If you can find them and take them, people will go out and buy one in an hour in the black market. Our politicians need to help the law-abiding citizens be able to protect themselves and stay within the law. GETTING RID OF GUNS WILL OPEN UP AMERICA AS A SOFT TARGET. In general, of all these slaughters that have happened who does the killing, mental misfits and radicalized Muslim’s. How many have been NRA members? NONE, right, NONE. How many have been everyday decent people, one or two. How many have been refugee’s, illegals, MUSLIMS and nuts, most of them. Hopefully the GOP will realize this and stop the gun hysteria so we good decent God-fearing people can have our guns to protect ourselves and our families. The gangs, Black Muslims and the Muslims are bringing guns into America by the thousands. Without being able to protect one self, there will be a blood bath of honest, decent, law abiding, God fearing Americans. There is nothing anyone can do about a deranged person with some real or imaginable vendetta in his/her mind, but you should have the ability to have a gun to give yourself a chance of survival.

  64. jim_shipley says

    There will be a lot of gun fights when they come for our guns. First I will want to see all politicians, elites, and government agencies give up ALL their guns first.

    1. Ron C says

      Senator Dianne Feinstein said if government gets rid of their guns the criminals will drop their guns, that it was human nature…??? So lets watch that happen first, and then maybe we’ll talk about the law abiding citizens giving theirs up…

  65. disqus_MZe2ymfHQj says

    You can’t believe anything news people say. the democrats and the news people will lie
    about anything that is against their agenda. These are evil people.

  66. BT says

    Two words: molon labe

  67. Bobtrhn says

    If our guns are taken away it won’t be only bad guys that we have to worry about. I believe our government will be the ones to kill us all.

  68. Don't Tread on Me says

    Why don’t ALL the Democrats voluntarily surrender THEIR guns. This should statistically reduce the number of incidents as most appear to be caused by folks affiliating with the Democratic Party. Then, let’s have a discussion about how effective a policy like total confiscation is necessary. In the meantime, the (R) conceal and carry folks will help police protect everyone else from the bad guys and gals.

    1. Libs R Loons says

      It would definitely eliminate the mass-murders, because all the mass-murderers in the last 9 years have been muslims and liberals who went off their psyche meds.

  69. patd says

    ABC = All Bull Crap! So these libturd supposed news commentators believe they are the experts on how to stop violence by taking away an inanimate object? So is that how they expect to stop drunk driving…by taking away vehicles? NO they say stop the drunks from driving but do they say stop the violent idiot libturds from owning a gun??? No they claim that if you take away a gun the violent idiot libturds won’t kill…they would never use a knife, bat, hammer, sword, rope, wire, or a vehicle to commit a crime as long as we remove guns from everyone. or lets make more laws because we all know how libturd criminals follow laws don’t we???!!!!!!!!!! Can’t fix STUPID with libturds but they do love their liars and criminals!!!

  70. AL ELLIS says

    Of course they say that, its the only way the lefties can take us over and put us under the UN mandates, its called a COUP, COUP, COUP !!!!

    1. mrpoohead says

      What UN mandates? It is a place for folk to talk and avoid wars, improve worldly living standards and healthcare. What mandates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Moron!

  71. F Gutierrez says

    I totally disagree with ABC News. Do not try to change the Constitution.

  72. rick meek says

    Hmmm – old saying
    an armed person is a citizen…..
    an unarmed person is a subject…..
    Of course – these A-Holes aren’t going to be the ones TRYING to seize weapons from people….

  73. Busdriver Bill says

    Way to go, Josie-the-outlaw. You have said it all, and with passion and flair. (see vid, below).

  74. Ted Paine says

    Come and take them…

  75. Phil Owens says

    This is probably one of the most insane comments by a news organization that I have heard in my 80 years! This is an indication of their lack of respect for the intelligence and integrity of the majority of American citizens, to indicate the average American citizen does not have the right to self defense smacks of ignorance and stupidity!

    Having served 32 years in the military and another 14 in Law Enforcement it has always been clear to me that the individual is responsible for their own safety, after all when SECONDS COUNT Law Enforcement is MINUTES OR LONGER AWAY!

    It has always amazed me the politicians who cry for disarmament of the public are always guarded by ARMED SECURITY! WOW, we actually voted for these people? Why do we PAY to read the propaganda and misinformation of the MSM?

  76. Firewagon says

    UhO, ABC made the mistake of letting the people get a peek at the “true agenda” that anyone with a single working synapse has long understood – “we gotta disarm these knuckle dragging cave people!”

    1. Retired says

      They tried that in WDC – Chicago and Ca. , then the murder rate went up .

      1. Firewagon says

        ‘Cuddent find ALL the knuckle draggers, me thinks…..

  77. Thinkingman2025 says

    Molon Labbe – Ancient Greek response when the Persians wanted King Leonidas of Sparta to surrender. Come and take them! See what you get!

  78. John Williams says

    Finally, now, what the socialist democrat party has always wanted, is out in the open, now is the time to force every last politician, be it socialist democrat or RINO republican, to vote on confiscation. We will then know who we can never trust, with a socialist democrat, we already know every last one of them would screw you in a heart beat, but we need to smoke out some of the RINOs who would stab you and the constitution in the back.

  79. Frances Elaine Thurston says

    ABC is out to lunch. I haven’t watched them in years as they are full of hot air to say the least. A word for ABC is ass bitch cunt.

  80. James Collins says

    you can come take my guns when you grow some really big balls

  81. Frank says

    Just like NAZI Germany conytol mass media and confiscate gun subjugate the population.
    NBC + Nazi Broadcast system

    1. Libs R Loons says

      It’s been said that if every German citizen had been issued a rifle and 50 rounds of ammo, Hitler would have only been a footnote in history.

  82. Susan K. says

    Hey ABC. Not happening!

  83. Jerry says

    There is only one reason to want to confiscate our guns it is so we can be invaded. The push to confiscate guns is from the globalist open border crowd.

  84. A_Nobody says

    Well. ABC needs to be checked for missing brains. They need to get their viewers to stop shooting people is more the case. A bullet shot at someone travels a lot faster than a cop trying to get to you.

  85. Linda Butler says

    we as Americans must wake up and realize the left only wants to take over our lives. we have allowed them to do so in our schools. history is no longer taught as we were taught. If we don’t stand up, we will become another Socialist/Communist country, with no rights.

  86. Rich Glaser says

    These gun grabbers are idiots. You’re importing terrorists and you want to disarm us. I say your stuck on stupid. We will never give up the right to defend our family and our selves. I took a oath when I was in the service to protect and defend our constitution. We are still living that oath. You can’t disarm a army

    1. Libs R Loons says

      They ignore the fact that terrorists don’t care what political affiliations their victims may have….only that they aren’t Islamists.

  87. Tom says

    Confiscation of property is unconstitutional and of guns is doubly unconstitutional. But then the Democrats never seem to worry about the constitution since their liberal judges will ignore it.