Appeals Court: No Right to Carry Concealed

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According to a new ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the Second Amendment to the Constitution does not guarantee Americans the right to carry concealed. In a 7-4 decision, the court upheld the current state of the law in California, which requires permit applicants to demonstrate “good cause” before being granted the right to carry a concealed weapon in public.

“We hold that the Second Amendment does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public,” wrote Judge William Fletcher in the majority opinion.

Gun rights groups are bound to challenge the decision, possibly leading to a showdown at the Supreme Court.

At issue is not necessarily the constitutionality of concealed carry itself, but whether or not states have the right to foreclose any possible right to bear arms. This is of crucial concern in a state like California, where open carry is forbidden. When citizens are required to show officials that they are in imminent danger before being permitted to carry concealed, the practical result is that millions of gun owners have no way of legally arming themselves in public.

“In the context of present-day California law, the Defendant counties’ limited licensing of the right to carry concealed firearms is tantamount to a total ban on the right of an ordinary citizen to carry a firearm in public for self-defense,” wrote dissenting Judge Consuelo Callahan.

This is where the rubber meets the road – where jurisprudence meets reality. It’s one thing to sit on the bench and pontificate on the specific intent of the Constitution’s founders as it relates to concealed carry. It’s one thing to pore over case law, which shows a clear history of agreement on a central point: That lawmakers are within their constitutional rights to restrict the unlimited right to bear arms.

But it’s quite another to weave together a tapestry of gun control laws and rulings that, when taken as a whole, result in a de facto ban on firearms. If California residents aren’t allowed to carry openly…and they aren’t allowed to carry concealed except in special circumstance…it’s hard to see the total situation as anything other than a flagrant violation of the Second Amendment.

2,652 Comments
  1. MAHB001 says

    There is no possible way reasonable humans can contort the English language to support the findings of this court. Words have no meaning, anymore.

    I live in CA, and this state should be removed from the Union, like a cancer is removed from the human body.

    When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

    1. 1PierreMontagne1 says

      The reality is that California has already left the union and is now working to have everyone else get on board and leave the union too – so far it seems to be working.

    2. DGJC says

      No, better yet: I live in CA and we don’t want right wing scum like you in our state. Leave. You must live in Bakersfield or Los Angeles, or another conservative stronghold.

      1. Theresa Hall-Klos says

        You must be part of the SCUM who want California to be MEXICO. So where will the illegal Californa, or Mexicali, or Calmexico, aliens, be fleeing to then? You might want to check History and find out that CALIFORNIA wanted to be part of the USA, Mexicans living there had the choice of becoming USA citizens or returning across the border to Mexico. Most stayed in the USA. The USA has the 2nd Amendment which California ratified. See how that works?

        1. DGJC says

          You must be part of the scum that hates Mooslims and thinks Latinos should be deported.

          1. Theresa Hall-Klos says

            No, I am part of the AMERICAN CITIZENS that believe our laws should be followed.

          2. DGJC says

            I agree that our laws should be followed and that means if you are a baker you cannot refuse to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding.

          3. Tired... says

            And entertainers should honor their contracts…but again the double standard is acceptable as long as it meets the needs of the privileged.

          4. DGJC says

            More than a grain of truth in that….no argument from me.

          5. Tired... says

            I appreciate that. Even though people may have differing perspectives on some things, we often find that we have far more in common if we actually talk instead of labeling one another.

          6. DGJC says

            That’s true, my friend.

          7. My2PenneysWorth says

            only if they are here ILLEGALLY

          8. DGJC says

            Nope. It will start with the illegals and not stop until all Latinos are expelled.

          9. My2PenneysWorth says

            now why would you want to expel people who are here legally and obeying the laws? What are you some kind of bigoted racist?

          10. DGJC says

            That makes no sense.

          11. My2PenneysWorth says

            hey your the one who stated and I quote

            “It will start with the illegals and not stop until all Latinos are expelled.

          12. DGJC says

            That’s Trump’s plan.

          13. My2PenneysWorth says

            Liar

          14. DGJC says

            Fact

        2. DGJC says

          The 2nd amendment will be repealed if we liberals have our way.

          1. My2PenneysWorth says

            fortunately you will not get your way it would lead to another civil war

          2. DGJC says

            Hahahahaha you idiots are too stupid.

          3. MildBill says

            The provision for maintaining the 2nd Amendment shall then be called upon, order will be regained, and we will step back into the 1940’s – 50’s and your lot will not only not be improved upon, but in fact lessened. . . . but have it your way, please !

          4. DGJC says

            I’ll have it my way- I’m voting for candidates who oppose the NRA.

      2. MAHB001 says

        You are just another scum puppet I see.

        1. DGJC says

          You are just another low information idiot who is conservative. Get some education.

          1. freethinker4 says

            go play with your gerbil faggot liberal

          2. DGJC says

            Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children.

            And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

            If you have a gun, everybody in your home is more likely than your non-gun-owning neighbors and their families to die in a gun-related accident, suicide or homicide.

            Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that having a gun in your house reduces your risk of being a victim of a crime. Nor does it reduce your risk of being injured during a home break-in.

            The health risks of owning a gun are so established and scientifically non-controvertible that the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a policy statement in 2000 recommending that pediatricians urge parents to remove all guns from their homes.

            Notice that the recommendation doesn’t call for parents to simply lock up their guns. It stresses that the weapons need to be taken out of the house.

            Study after study has been conducted on the health risks associated with guns in the home. One of the latest was a meta-reviewpublished in 2011 by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. He examined all the scientific literature to date on the health risks and benefits of gun ownership.

            What he found was sobering, to say the least.

            Accidental deaths

            To begin with, having a gun in the home is a risk factor for serious accidental injury and death. As Hemenway points out, death certificate data indicate that 680 Americans were killed accidentally with guns each year between 2003 and 2007. Half those victims were under the age of 25.

            Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries.

            Nonfatal gun injuries occur at the average rate of 20 a day in the United States — and that doesn’t include pellet-gun injuries (which average 45 day) or injuries that don’t involve a bullet wound (like powder burns and recoil injuries).

            “One study of nonfatal accidental shootings found that the majority were self- inflicted, most involved handguns, and more than one third of the injuries required hospitalization,” writes Hemenway. “Injuries often occurred during fairly routine gun handling — cleaning a gun, loading and unloading, target shooting, and so on.”

            Suicides

            An average of 46 Americans committed suicide with guns each day between 2003 and 2007. In fact, more Americans killed themselves with guns during those years than with all other methods combined.

            Gun owners and their families are not more suicidal than non-gun-owners, research shows. No are they more likely to have a history of depression or other mental health problems.

            But they — and their families — are at significantly increased risk of successfully taking their lives with a gun. The reason: Guns are more lethal than other methods.

            One study found, reports Hemenway, that “in states with more guns, there were more suicides (because there were more firearm suicides), even after controlling for the percentage of the state’s population with serious mental illness, alcohol dependence or abuse, illicit substance dependence or abuse, and the percentage unemployed, living below the poverty level, and in urban areas.”

            But “there was no association between gun prevalence and a state’s nonfirearm suicide rate,” he adds.

            Homicides

            Two-thirds of all murders between 2003 and 2007 involved guns. The average number of Americans shot and killed daily during those years was 33. Of those, one was a child (0 to 14 years), five were teenagers (15 to 19 years) and seven were young adults (20 to 24 years), on average.

            Children in the U.S. get murdered with guns at a rate that is 13 times higher than that of other developed nations. For our young people aged 15 to 24, the rate is 43 times higher.

            “The presence of a gun makes quarrels, disputes, assaults, and robberies more deadly. Many murders are committed in a moment of rage,” writes Hemenway.

            “For example, a large percentage of homicides — and especially homicides in the home — occur during altercations over matters such as love, money, and domestic problems, involving acquaintances, neighbors, lovers, and family members; often the assailant or victim has been drinking. Only a small minority of homicides appear to be the carefully planned acts of individuals with a single-minded intention to kill. Most gun killings are indistinguishable from nonfatal gun shootings; it is just a question of the caliber of the gun, whether a vital organ is hit, and how much time passes before medical treatment arrives.”

            Benefits?

            The possible health benefits of gun ownership are twofold: deterring crime and stopping crimes in progress. But there are no credible studies, says Hemenway, that higher levels of gun ownership actually do these things.

            “The main reason people give for having a handgun in the home is protection, typically against stranger violence,” he writes. “However, it is important to recognize that the home is a relatively safe place, especially from strangers. For example, fewer than 30% of burglaries in the United States (2003-2007) occur when someone is at home. In the 7% of burglaries when violence does occur, the burglar is more likely to be an intimate (current or former) and also more likely to be a relative or known acquaintance than a stranger. Although people typically spend most of their time at home, only 5% of all the crimes of violence perpetrated by strangers occur at home.”

            In fact, adds Hemenway, research shows that most self-defense use of guns is not socially desirable.

          3. My2PenneysWorth says

            There would be less than 49 dead homosexuals if some had concealed carry permits and the Florida law did not make that homosexual bar a GUN FREE ZONE Your above rant is totally false in most cities and states where firearms are able to be carried without infringement homicides and violent crimes are down. Guns in a home are not a danger lack of education and respect of firearms are. I have never seen a firearm get up and shoot someone no matter what names you call it.

          4. DGJC says

            Bull droppings.

          5. My2PenneysWorth says

            a mass killing in a couple of malls were stopped by concealed carry so the only bull droppings are the ones coming out of your mouth

          6. DGJC says

            Sure. Liar

          7. My2PenneysWorth says

            projecting again? I don’t need to lie it was reported on all the news channels

          8. DGJC says

            Liar

          9. My2PenneysWorth says
          10. DGJC says

            Liar

          11. DGJC says

            Liar

          12. MildBill says

            Car accidents, now there’s the real culprit and perpetuator of deadly acts ! . . Extrapolation in the vein of thought upon which you have embarked would conclude that if one does not break the law, but refuses to wear a safety belt, his odds of being killed or maimed in a car accident have been decreased significantly. . . Yeah, that makes sense, right ? . . . We can settle this thing in a more logical manner. . . You break into my house tonight, or any night, and we’ll see who has the better odds of seeing daylight. . . Hey, bring a friend !

          13. DGJC says

            Let’s settle this a more logical way: cars are designed to transport people. Guns exist for one purpose: killing or maiming. There is a reason to eliminate guns and not cars. Your gun won’t protect you and you are four times more likely to die by gunshot than me. That works for me.

          14. DGJC says

            Go molest a boy or drive your girlfriend to the abortion clinic, idiot conservative. Grow a brain.

          15. My2PenneysWorth says

            shame you can’t grow one it is liberals who use abortion clinics to kill babies not conservatives. it is liberals like you who are the sociopaths who care more about your self pleasure then the well being of others.

          16. DGJC says

            It is heterosexuals who use abortion clinics. One in three women have an abortion in their lifetime. This knows no political ideology.

          17. My2PenneysWorth says

            true
            Homosexuals just commit suicide more often as to the one in three that is another liberal lie just like the so called 50% of all marriages end in divorce and 97% of all scientists believe in man made global warming

          18. DGJC says

            93 percent of the Academy of Sciences don’t believe in a god. Why do gay teens commit suicide?
            Turn on your news and watch the Orlando story and report back as to why gay teens commit suicide.

          19. Tired... says

            100% of scientists believe in things that they cannot prove. Human beings function every day on faith in a variety of ways, yet perhaps the most common illusion is the objectivity of science. Science is done by scientists, and that is the rub. Take Steven Hawking’s belief that subatomic particles self-create. While he is a brilliant man and is certainly free to hold such a view, the idea that subatomic particles cannot be detected one moment, are detected another, and gone the next may point to more to our inability to detect them rather than self-creation (think of a Jack Russell terrier jumping to look in a window and disappearing from view until he can leap again). Of course it fits the narrative more nicely if they self-create so, abra-kadabra, they self-create.

          20. DGJC says

            Mankind will never figure out where we came from and I say: why bother?? It doesn’t matter to me. God was invented to explain the unexplainable.

          21. Tired... says

            In many cases I believe that is true…of course now modern science has largely assumed that role.

          22. DGJC says

            Scientists think they know many answers, and they often do, but they also will never really be able to understand our origins. As a kid I used to drive myself crazy just contemplating how far into space it’s possible to go. Infinity is beyond human comprehension.

          23. DGJC says

            What if our entire universe is just a spec of dust in the infinite cosmos? It puts our tiny planet and human existence into perspective.

          24. DGJC says

            Sociopaths? You mean heterosexuals? 100 percent of mass shooters are heterosexuals as are people who have abortions.

          25. My2PenneysWorth says

            lesbians have abortions also again proving you are pulling numbers out of your anal cavity

          26. DGJC says

            Lesbians don’t have accidental babies. If they have an abortion it’s due to legitimate health reasons.

          27. My2PenneysWorth says

            irrelevant I just proved your 100% statement 100% WRONG

          28. DGJC says

            No you didn’t.

          29. My2PenneysWorth says

            is this another I know you are but what am I situation?
            I know you are a liberal but facts are facts your statement was blatantly wrong, I proved it accept it

          30. DGJC says

            Liar

          31. My2PenneysWorth says

            not wasting any more time with you.
            you are truly mentally ill and should be committed before you hurt someone or yourself

          32. DGJC says

            Hahahaha

          33. DGJC says

            Feel free not to be educated by me. That’s what conservatives do… You can run but you can’t hide. Truth always wins.

          34. DGJC says

            Incomprehensible- do you want to try another language?

          35. DGJC says

            Heterosexual males are mentally ill.

          36. DGJC says

            Did you ever think that the lesbians might have gotten pregnant because a heterosexual man raped them?

          37. My2PenneysWorth says

            Still irrelevant your 100% statement is still wrong

          38. DGJC says

            Your sources are making a common mistake: men who molest boys are usually heterosexual. Those men who killed boys were not homosexual.

          39. DGJC says

            My husband just came home. Time to spend time with him. Bye…. Don’t you have a grandson you can molest?

          40. My2PenneysWorth says

            that’s more your dream not mine

          41. DGJC says

            We’re having a nice conversation. He works so hard. He’s a therapist and tells me about all the messed up mentally ill heterosexuals. You people are crazy!!!

          42. DGJC says

            Among same-sex couples with both partners in the labor force, median household income is significantly higher ($94,000) than among heterosexual couples ($86,000). That’s likely due to a number of factors, but education is likely one of them, says Gary Gates, a distinguished scholar at the Williams institute and the study’s author. Around 46 percent of people in same-sex couples have college degrees, compared to under one-third of people in heterosexual couples. That higher level of education also likely contributes to higher incomes for same-sex households.
            Source:
            Gay Couples More Educated, Higher-Income Than Heterosexual Couples

            US News and World Report, March 1, 2013, Danielle Kurtzleben

            http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/01/gay-couples-more-educated-higher-income-than-heterosexual-couples

            a market-research firm, found that gay male households reported average income of more than $50,000 in 1990, compared with the national average for all households of about $37,000.

            A study in American Demographics also found high education levels among homosexuals: “The precise size of the gay market may not be known, but the characteristics of gays make them prime consumer targets. The median educational attainment of gays is 15.7 years, compared with 12.7 for the overall adult U.S. population. Thirty-two percent of gays have attended college for four years or more, compared with 21 percent of the overall population.

            One study shows that twice as many college-educated men identify themselves as homosexual as men with high-school educations, 3 percent of college-educated men said they were gay compared to 1.5 percent of men with high-school educations.

          43. DGJC says

            I don’t dream it, I live it.

          44. DGJC says

            That sentence was incomprehensible.

          45. DGJC says

            Sure

          46. Tired... says

            To the best of my knowledge sociopathology is not linked to gender identity or sexual orientation one way or the other.

          47. DGJC says

            That’s true. Just making trouble.

          48. Tired... says

            Wow progress!!!

          49. MildBill says

            . . . . Have you thought about going gluten free ?

          50. DGJC says

            Why? My mother did just before she died and she died, so……

          51. DGJC says

            Go get a teen girl pregnant, hillbilly. Drive your girlfriend to the abortion clinic, beat her for me. That makes me laugh.

          52. freethinker4 says

            You think that’s funny, how sick are you

          53. DGJC says

            Go shoot your gun. Aim it at your own head. Do our society a favor.

          54. MAHB001 says

            You are nothing more than an uninformed troll, your opinion has zero weight around here…

            Your insults and lake of substantive conversation is proof of my point.

          55. DGJC says

            Sure -hahahahaha.

          56. MAHB001 says

            I am still waiting for you to actually contribute something to one of these conversations….

            Insults don’t count.

          57. DGJC says

            I’m waiting for you to say something intelligent.

          58. My2PenneysWorth says

            and maybe you should read the constitution and some true history. When the amendments were being debated the Second Amendment was the only one that was accepted unanimously without any alteration considered. because the founding fathers feared a federal government that would exceed to authority as we have today

          59. DGJC says

            The founding fathers never foresaw a day when religious zealots would walk into a nightclub and kill people at random. They were wrong.

          60. My2PenneysWorth says

            the founding fathers believed in self responsibility and honor they never thought liberals would ignore them or that people would become so dependent on government so you are correct they were wrong for having so much confidence in people

          61. DGJC says

            The founding fathers would have thought Prop 8 was anti-American. They opposed voting on civil rights issues.

          62. My2PenneysWorth says

            The founding fathers respected state rights and would have respected the votes of the people of California. only liberals don’t respect what the majority vote for

          63. DGJC says

            The founding fathers frequently spoke out against voting on civil rights. They called it immoral and that’s the reason courts exist.

          64. DGJC says

            Liberals are smart enough to know that no single civil rights issue was ever decided by voting on it.

          65. My2PenneysWorth says

            liberals can’t win with votes people have too much common sense to think anything liberals due is good

          66. DGJC says

            Democrats outnumber conservatives by very large numbers

        2. DGJC says

          Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children.

          And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

          If you have a gun, everybody in your home is more likely than your non-gun-owning neighbors and their families to die in a gun-related accident, suicide or homicide.

          Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that having a gun in your house reduces your risk of being a victim of a crime. Nor does it reduce your risk of being injured during a home break-in.

          The health risks of owning a gun are so established and scientifically non-controvertible that the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a policy statement in 2000 recommending that pediatricians urge parents to remove all guns from their homes.

          Notice that the recommendation doesn’t call for parents to simply lock up their guns. It stresses that the weapons need to be taken out of the house.

          Study after study has been conducted on the health risks associated with guns in the home. One of the latest was a meta-reviewpublished in 2011 by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. He examined all the scientific literature to date on the health risks and benefits of gun ownership.

          What he found was sobering, to say the least.

          Accidental deaths

          To begin with, having a gun in the home is a risk factor for serious accidental injury and death. As Hemenway points out, death certificate data indicate that 680 Americans were killed accidentally with guns each year between 2003 and 2007. Half those victims were under the age of 25.

          Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries.

          Nonfatal gun injuries occur at the average rate of 20 a day in the United States — and that doesn’t include pellet-gun injuries (which average 45 day) or injuries that don’t involve a bullet wound (like powder burns and recoil injuries).

          “One study of nonfatal accidental shootings found that the majority were self- inflicted, most involved handguns, and more than one third of the injuries required hospitalization,” writes Hemenway. “Injuries often occurred during fairly routine gun handling — cleaning a gun, loading and unloading, target shooting, and so on.”

          Suicides

          An average of 46 Americans committed suicide with guns each day between 2003 and 2007. In fact, more Americans killed themselves with guns during those years than with all other methods combined.

          Gun owners and their families are not more suicidal than non-gun-owners, research shows. No are they more likely to have a history of depression or other mental health problems.

          But they — and their families — are at significantly increased risk of successfully taking their lives with a gun. The reason: Guns are more lethal than other methods.

          One study found, reports Hemenway, that “in states with more guns, there were more suicides (because there were more firearm suicides), even after controlling for the percentage of the state’s population with serious mental illness, alcohol dependence or abuse, illicit substance dependence or abuse, and the percentage unemployed, living below the poverty level, and in urban areas.”

          But “there was no association between gun prevalence and a state’s nonfirearm suicide rate,” he adds.

          Homicides

          Two-thirds of all murders between 2003 and 2007 involved guns. The average number of Americans shot and killed daily during those years was 33. Of those, one was a child (0 to 14 years), five were teenagers (15 to 19 years) and seven were young adults (20 to 24 years), on average.

          Children in the U.S. get murdered with guns at a rate that is 13 times higher than that of other developed nations. For our young people aged 15 to 24, the rate is 43 times higher.

          “The presence of a gun makes quarrels, disputes, assaults, and robberies more deadly. Many murders are committed in a moment of rage,” writes Hemenway.

          “For example, a large percentage of homicides — and especially homicides in the home — occur during altercations over matters such as love, money, and domestic problems, involving acquaintances, neighbors, lovers, and family members; often the assailant or victim has been drinking. Only a small minority of homicides appear to be the carefully planned acts of individuals with a single-minded intention to kill. Most gun killings are indistinguishable from nonfatal gun shootings; it is just a question of the caliber of the gun, whether a vital organ is hit, and how much time passes before medical treatment arrives.”

          Benefits?

          The possible health benefits of gun ownership are twofold: deterring crime and stopping crimes in progress. But there are no credible studies, says Hemenway, that higher levels of gun ownership actually do these things.

          “The main reason people give for having a handgun in the home is protection, typically against stranger violence,” he writes. “However, it is important to recognize that the home is a relatively safe place, especially from strangers. For example, fewer than 30% of burglaries in the United States (2003-2007) occur when someone is at home. In the 7% of burglaries when violence does occur, the burglar is more likely to be an intimate (current or former) and also more likely to be a relative or known acquaintance than a stranger. Although people typically spend most of their time at home, only 5% of all the crimes of violence perpetrated by strangers occur at home.”

          In fact, adds Hemenway, research shows that most self-defense use of guns is not socially desirable.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Thanks for proving my points about you being just another scum puppet…

            Having a gun in your home does not significantly increase my odds of death…

            This is simply a lie. One which you can not prove without smoke and mirror liberal logic…

      3. Dan says

        Well, I do agree, CA has not conducted itself like one of the United States of America in a very long time.

  2. MAHB001 says

    In CA you can NOT open Carry…
    Now you can NOT Conceal Carry…

    Now you do not have 2nd Amendment rights…..

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      …..and the socialists edge closer and closer to their “takeover” of what USED TO BE a mighty country! ?

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          flagged you scum puppet.

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    2. AKLady says

      Actually, it is the 14th Amendment which extended the 2nd Amendment to the state level.

      1. Name says

        You need to read that amendment again. “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” and the rest is about due process. It does not give the state the right to do anything with the 2nd amendment.

        1. AKLady says

          You need to read it again, without your presumtions. The 14th REQUIRED the states to follow the 2nd Amendment.

          1. joe says

            go back to your room sweety its that time

      2. Name says

        PS: I carry a copy of the Constitution on me every day.

    3. DGJC says

      I can’t wait until the 2nd amendment is repealed. I hope we can get enough support once Hillary is in office.

      1. jennings says

        When the SHTF You will sure be looking for Someone with a gun to help You save and protect Your Family ,Your Self and Your Property. Good luck on waiting for an armed Police Officer. I am prepared to do that and don’t try take that RIGHT from Me!

        1. DGJC says

          Guns don’t protect anyone. Owning a gun shortens your lifespan and puts your family at greater risk of death. Read up about Adam Lanza and Sandy Hook.

          1. Mike Pasch says

            Lanza could not Legally own a gun. He stole them. Criminals will always find a way to get a gun regardless of any gun laws. You come around threating My Family and see Who is at risk!

          2. DGJC says

            Lanza got those guns from his mother.
            That’s the point. You cannot keep guns safely in any home and they do not provide protection.

          3. jennings says

            Lanza Stole them from His Mother. She did not give them to Him. He was not a responsible legal gun owner. What You are saying is that guns are not right for You so No One should be able to have one. That’s the typical Liberal Insanity.

          4. DGJC says

            Lanza’s mother bought him guns. You don’t know anything. Conservatives are insane.

          5. jennings says

            My Gun Dealer said to tell You Thanks. You have convinced Me that I need more guns and ammo. I ordered another AR-15 with 30 round mags and another Glock in 40 SW. Obama has been the best Gun Salesman the USA has ever had but Hillary and You Liberal Progressives are sure helping. You can chalk up 2 guns to the over 300,000,000 + legaly owned guns to Your credit. Keep up the good work!

          6. DGJC says

            Now you idiots are shooting up gay nightclubs. When will you morons stop? Heterosexual males are mentally ill.

          7. My2PenneysWorth says

            I believe it was established that the shooter was Muslim AND a Democrat.

          8. DGJC says

            I believe it was established that the shooter did his deed in the name of religion and as a heterosexual male (mentally ill).

          9. My2PenneysWorth says

            what I have stated was reported fact what you state is observed opinion it may be correct but has not been factually proven

          10. DGJC says

            I established fact using scientific resources.

          11. My2PenneysWorth says

            Sorry, no you haven’t. Nothing in your above statement has any basis in any scientific resources

          12. DGJC says

            Yes I have.

          13. My2PenneysWorth says

            with that comment I have an image of you stomping your foot. and BTW NO you Have Not

          14. DGJC says

            Yes I have, and no I don’t stomp my feet. I hate dancing.

          15. My2PenneysWorth says

            No you really haven’t now go and take your blanky and stomp off to bed

          16. DGJC says

            It’s very early and I won’t be going to bed for three hours.

          17. DGJC says

            My common sense told me that you heterosexual males are mentally ill and shouldn’t own guns. 100 percent of mass shooters are heterosexual males. You shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children or decent human beings. And hell no, you shouldn’t have guns.

          18. My2PenneysWorth says

            Here a mentally ill Homosexual is calling everyone else mentally ill.
            Irony anyone?

          19. DGJC says

            Only one problem: I’m not mentally ill and I’m ten times more educated and intelligent than you.

          20. My2PenneysWorth says

            your really into yourself aren’t you?
            you think your more intelligent. Lets see, I was president of my chess club and first board on my chess team and I have Bobby Fisher in my family tree what do you have that proves your intelligence being able to play chop sticks?

          21. DGJC says

            I am more intelligent than you, because I know the difference between “your” and “you’re.”

          22. My2PenneysWorth says

            let’s see your – possessive
            you’re contraction for you are
            nope I seem to know the difference however I have enough intelligence to be able to overlook some errors unlike liberals who want to nit pick and always miss the big picture because of it

          23. DGJC says

            Conservatives do not know the differences between these words:
            We’re and were
            Their and there and they’re
            Weather and whether
            Border and boarder
            Your and you’re
            I see these mistakes ten times per day on conservative sites. Not on liberal sites.

          24. My2PenneysWorth says

            pleas stop projecting and stop lying

          25. DGJC says

            I’m not projecting I’m observing.

          26. My2PenneysWorth says

            No you are projecting liberals can’t observe they have their eyes and ears closed if they were opened they would be conservatives

          27. DGJC says

            Nonsense. Completely incomprehensible….

          28. DGJC says

            Random words which made no sense….

          29. DGJC says

            I’ve performed 68 piano concertos from memory and three were world premieres. I speak five languages.

          30. My2PenneysWorth says

            that and a 1.00 will get you a cup of coffee from McDonalds
            in other words aside from you who really cares
            you speak 5 languages and can’t think straight in one

          31. DGJC says

            I think straight in all five languages.

          32. My2PenneysWorth says

            actually no you don’t think at all

          33. DGJC says

            I think very well and much more logically than you.

          34. My2PenneysWorth says

            highly doubtful I’ve been working in computers for over 45 years can’t get more logical than that

          35. DGJC says

            Computers??? Hahahahaha nothing logical about computers. You push start to turn them off!! The idiots that designed computers are stupid.

          36. DGJC says

            As much as I would enjoy sitting h ere all day and educating you, the piano bench beckons me and I’d like to work out at the gym today. Bye bye!!

          37. MildBill says

            . . . . Do you prefer to be on the bench on your hands and knees, or draped over it ?

          38. DGJC says

            What?

          39. My2PenneysWorth says

            I suggest you educate yourself before you attempt to educate anyone else

          40. DGJC says

            I’m over educated. I have three degrees and have taught at four universities.

          41. My2PenneysWorth says

            you may be educated but you have learned nothing

          42. DGJC says

            I’ve had ten times the life experience you’ve had. I’ve been around the world multiple times.

          43. My2PenneysWorth says

            doubtful I’m a veteran can you say the same.
            Can you say you were in combat?
            I don’t think you’ve had ten times the life experience I have

          44. DGJC says

            Military? It’s all making sense now . You couldn’t get into college, so …..

          45. DGJC says

            I know I’m more intelligent than you. No “thinking” involved.

          46. My2PenneysWorth says

            another thing we can agree on
            there is not thinking on your part
            and to paraphrase Sgt. Shultz “You Know Nothing, Nothing”

          47. DGJC says

            That literally made no sense. Oh well… Consider the source.

          48. My2PenneysWorth says

            just shows how uneducated you really are you may have book smarts but sorry that is not enough

          49. DGJC says

            You should want my mental illness. I’ve only given you half of my accomplishments. I’ve outperformed every heterosexual in my family tenfold.

          50. My2PenneysWorth says

            That doesn’t say much for your family then does it.
            sorry I am happy with my own mental illnesses really could not stomach yours makes my stomach churn just thinking about it

          51. DGJC says

            My stomach churns just thinking about heterosexual sex- been their done that. Never again./..

          52. My2PenneysWorth says

            Well to each his own

          53. DGJC says

            That’s a point that goes over the head of conservatives. They lack empathy/

          54. My2PenneysWorth says

            no we just regulate our empathy with common sense something liberals lack

          55. DGJC says

            You have no empathy, common sense nor intelligence.

          56. DGJC says

            You can have your hole that drips blood and smells like a garbage dump behind a sushi restaurant. I’ll stick with my husband.

          57. My2PenneysWorth says

            should I lower my self to your level and start calling you a fudge packer?
            you have proven what is said about liberals when they can’t win an argument they start insulting and attacking it must really suck to be you

          58. DGJC says

            You were well below my level in your very first comment. By the way, I just proved that homosexuality is not a mental illness, and never has been.

          59. MildBill says

            . . . . .and yet you have no concept of basic plumbing . . . go figure !

          60. DGJC says

            I have a better understanding of plumbing than you. I’ve had sex with women. They cannot please a man because they lack the proper body part to please our prostate, the most erogenous zone. Two holes and two sticks is a perfect match. Three holes and one stick makes for boring sex.

          61. Kyle says

            Why are you bashing straight heterosexual males? You wouldn’t be here without a straight heterosexual male, idiot!

          62. DGJC says

            You presume my parents were heterosexuals. You presume way too much….

          63. DGJC says

            By the way, you’re pretty cute. Has anyone told you that you look like a gay man? That’s a compliment.

          64. DGJC says

            I guess I have a problem with the fact that 100 percent of mass shooters and 98 percent of child molesters are heterosexual males. It also bothers me that one in four women is abused and one in five is raped. Why shouldn’t I have issues with that?

          65. DGJC says

            I guess I have a chip on my shoulder since 50 of my gay brethren are dead because of a heterosexual male.

          66. DGJC says

            The irony is that homosexuality isn’t a mental illness. Oops!!!

          67. My2PenneysWorth says

            you just prove the fact that most mentally ill people don’t realize they are mentally ill

          68. DGJC says

            You just prove that heterosexual males are mentally ill.

          69. DGJC says

            I just proved that homosexuality doesn’t fit any of the criteria to be a mental illness:

            http://www.saybrook.edu/newexistentialists/posts/05-11-12/

          70. Robert says

            That muzlem female in San Bernardino, was she/he a transgender?

          71. DGJC says

            She was heterosexual and the accomplice of a make heterosexual.

          72. My2PenneysWorth says

            and yet you stated above that “100 percent of mass shooters are heterosexual males”

          73. DGJC says

            If you read the stories of the mass shooters, it is correct that all were heterosexual males and some did their crimes because of problems with women, and they stated this.

          74. My2PenneysWorth says

            again not what was posted
            the FEMALE in San Bernardino was not male
            so 100% of mass shooters can not be heterosexual males

          75. DGJC says

            She was obviously coerced into doing something by a heterosexual male and wouldn’t have done that on her own. Being Muslims, she was probably forced to do it.

          76. My2PenneysWorth says

            irrelevant
            the guns were coerced also and would not have done what they did on their own

          77. DGJC says

            They have been, and their heterosexual female counterparts who were forced to participate.

          78. My2PenneysWorth says

            and yet it still escapes you that if one FEMALE participates in a MASS KILLING then 100 percent of mass shooters are not all heterosexual males
            and yet you still claim to be smarter than anyone else.

          79. DGJC says

            Yet it escapes you that men in Islamic culture completely control women. A man ordered her to do it.

          80. My2PenneysWorth says

            doesn’t escape me it just proves what you stated to be a lie here is some more proof about your inaccuracies
            http://www.cstnews.com/Code/MassMurd.html
            http://listverse.com/2012/10/23/top-10-evil-homosexuals/

          81. DGJC says

            Sorry that science proves otherwise:

            HETEROSEXUAL MEN ARE THE WORST SERIAL KILLERS IN HISTORY!

            Luis Garavito- Child-murderer, torture-killer, and rapist known as “La Bestia” (“The Beast”). Confessed to killing 140 children over a 5-year period in Colombia. He is suspected of murdering over 400 victims, mostly street children

            Pedro Lopez- Child-murderer and rapist, known as “The Monster of the Andes”. Targeted young girls, between the ages of 8 and 12. Arrested in 1980 and convicted in 1983 of killing 110 young girls but confessed to killing 300, exact total unknown. Though he may be the most prolific serial killer of the 20th century, he was released in 1998. Current whereabouts unknown.

            Daniel Camargo- Child-murderer, believed to have possibly raped and killed over 150 victims, primarily young virgin girls. Confessed to killing 72 victims, and incarcerated with Pedro Alonso Lopez. Considered to be intelligent, and believed to have been motivated to kill from his stepmother abusing him as a child. He strangled young girls in Colombia and was arrested, but he escaped from prison and he started killing in Ecuador; rearrested in 1989, he was killed in jail.

            Andrei Onopnenko- Known as Butcher of Rostov, The Red Ripper or The Rostov Ripper. Convicted of the murder of 53 women and children between 1978 and 1990. Executed in 1994. Another man was previously convicted and executed for his crimes.

            Gary Ridgway- Truck painter who confessed to killing 71 women. The United States’ most prolific serial killer; also known as The Green River Killer. He almost exclusively targeted sex workers from Seattle. Suspected of killing over 90 victims, confessed to 71, convicted of 49.

          82. My2PenneysWorth says

            no it proves YOU lied mass murderers ARE NOT 100% heterosexual no matter how much you stamp your feet and say it it is not a true factual statement
            but then I forget I am talking to a liberal who has no knowledge of reality and lives in it’s own fantasy world where homosexuals are good and heterosexuals are bad
            you really should seek help

          83. DGJC says

            The top eight serial killers were heterosexual males, who represent less than 48 percent of the population. Do the math/

          84. My2PenneysWorth says

            Something new for you to chew on

            http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/shooter-used-to-visit-orlando-gay-club-use-gay-dating-apps/

            proving that all mass murderers are not heterosexual

          85. DGJC says

            All mass shooters are heterosexual males. 100 percent

          86. DGJC says

            Being that I’m a homosexual, I’m trying to wrap my brain around what you heterosexual males have been doing. Does it make you feel more “normal” when you kill a group of innocent people? When you molest little boys, does it also make you feel extra normal? How about when you rape women or abuse them? I guess you and I have a different concept of what normal means? These typical heterosexual male behaviors seem anything but normal. In fact, they seek rather pathological….

          87. DGJC says

            There is zero chance the shooter was gay. He was too crazy to be gay and his behavior is in line with the heterosexual male lifestyle.

          88. BD says

            Wrong, google it.

          89. DGJC says

            I did. And you’re wrong.

          90. BD says

            His classmates from college claim he was gay, maybe bi-sexual is a better term since he had two wives.

          91. DGJC says

            We don’t know for sure, but at any rate it was religion that caused go to do his deed.

          92. DGJC says

            Sorry I don’t read anything from World News Daily. It’s a known right wing rag with zero credibility.

          93. My2PenneysWorth says
          94. DGJC says

            He was luring gay men in to be victims, tard. The Russians do it all the time. He took his wife to the gay club to case it out. Suck it up, princess.

          95. My2PenneysWorth says

            You suck it up buttercup
            not what the people in the video’s say including his ex wife

          96. DGJC says

            There is zero evidence he was gay.

          97. DGJC says

            If there is any possibility he was gay, it is all the more an indictment on how heterosexuals treat gay people. His internalized fear of his homosexuality and the fear of being discovered as gay by his father was so severe that he killed dozens and himself. This speaks to the mental illness of heterosexuals and proves my point all the more. Heterosexuals are sick people who have historically treated gays so badly that many gay teens kill themselves. You people are truly evil and sick people. Do you know how many countries have the death penalty for gays? Look it up.

          98. My2PenneysWorth says

            You sound more and more like the wife beater or child beater who blames the person you are beating “See what you made me do”
            get over it no one is forcing you to do anything
            BTW a question for you being you are so anti 2nd amendment
            if a person broke into your house and threatened to kill your “husband” how would you stop him? or would you even try
            Personally I would take the three tap method
            two in the chest on in the head

          99. DGJC says

            Having a gun doesn’t protect you in such a circumstance. You forgot that I was held at gunpoint and robbed in Manhattan in the subway. I lived to tell this story only because I didn’t have a gun. Gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot.
            Heterosexuals are absolutely to blame for the suicides of gay teens. There is no other group to blame. Research shows that gay teens commit suicide due to being rejected by parents and peers. This is unequivocal.

          100. DGJC says

            Did you know you can now block users on Disqus and you won’t see any of their comments? I’m tempted…..
            I’ve just blocked two morons from this thread.

          101. DGJC says

            Suck it up, liar. That’s what heterosexual homophobes do. It has gotten so dangerous for Russian gays that they can’t go to bars or visit dating apps because most of the men on there are out to harm them. They lure gay men in by using apps and go to bars to pick up gay men and beat them. There is NO question that this guy was doing the same thing and had cased that club for months to plan his deed.

          102. DGJC says

            If you were looking for gay victims to pick on, would you go to a straight bar??? NO!!

          103. DGJC says

            Luis Garavito was a heterosexual male who killed boys because he had been molested by his father. He was not homosexual. Your sources are all wrong. Most men who molest boys are heterosexual.

          104. My2PenneysWorth says

            and you idolize them and want to be with them.

          105. DGJC says

            Nope. They are heterosexual heroes.

          106. DGJC says

            Please just shoot yourself. Do it now.

          107. Robert says

            You advocate violence? I guess it comes with the title of DemocRat?

          108. DGJC says

            Nope, I advocate that those who are violent and own guns kill themselves and make our society great again.

          109. Tired... says

            As your statement suggests, it is inevitable the people who think like you do will eventually advocate killing those who disagree with them.

          110. DGJC says

            I don’t advocate killing, which is why I won’t own a gun.

          111. Tired... says

            Why? If it makes you feel better according to your statistics jennings is going to do that anyway. You shouldn’t have anything to worry about.

          112. DGJC says

            Good point!!

          113. MildBill says

            . . . . you never answered my query. . . a recent study shows that 9 out of 10 Gay men enjoy taking polls. . . . Do you enjoy taking polls ?

          114. DGJC says

            Hahaha cute

          115. DGJC says

            Allowing more guns into a society that already has the world’s highest death rate from gunshot is like building fast food restaurants where fat people live.
            You people are stupid beyond comprehension.

          116. jennings says

            Lets ban cell phones because to many deaths and injuries are from People texting and driving. Better yet lets ban motorized vehicles. Just think of all of the lives that would be saved and hundreds of thousands of injuries that would be prevented. Might as well go after prescription drugs knives screw drivers hammers saws stairs high rise buildings make all buildings ground level only rope etc. etc. etc.

          117. DGJC says

            Everything you’ve mentioned exists for purposes other than killing people. Guns exist for the sole purpose of killing or maiming. Don’t be stupid. And now you heterosexual males are shooting up gay nightclubs. You people are mentally ill (heterosexual males).

          118. jennings says

            The 2nd amendment is there for protection from a tyrannical Government. We are about there. There are many shooting sports. Hunting for Food. And for protection from Nuts and Criminals.
            Just because a few Nuts go out shooting up the place does not justify Disarming an inter Country. If guns where not available They would find other means such as knives explosives vehicles poisions drugs rope just like I said in the above post.
            All of the above are being used now. Look at all of the ways ISIS is killing People. Guns aren’t for You so No One can have them. That’s the Liberal Thinking.

          119. DGJC says

            Giving out more guns to a society which has he highest death rate from gunshot wounds is like building more fast food near obese people. It makes no sense.

          120. jennings says

            You do a lot of repeat statements. is everything scripted?
            The night club shooting was according to Your Leader Obama “an act of terror” By a Muslim and ISIS is taking credit for it. If there had been a good Guy there carrying concealed there may have been fewer casualties. It takes a good gun to take out a bad gun.
            911 killed over 3000 innocent People without a shot being fired. weapons used were box cutters and Airplanes. Bad People will always find away that is why My Wife and I carry Concealed for Our own protection.

          121. DGJC says

            The nightclub shooting was done by a heterosexual male and based on conservative religious beliefs. Your god caused this.

          122. Robert says

            He was a muzlem. He was a REGISTERED DumbocRat. He just wasn’t a homo.

          123. DGJC says

            He was a gun owning heterosexual and thus my enemy.

          124. Tired... says

            He didn’t kill because he owned a gun or because of his sexual orientation; he killed because his worldview told him that it was the right thing to do, yet you demean those who would have taken him out once his obscenity began, which is most unfortunate.

          125. DGJC says

            I repeat : all guns are evil and should be eliminated. We have no use for them.

          126. Robert says

            So, first I wanted to say thank you for all the civil replies. They were all thoughtful by your standards. Usually, when dealing with Liberals, there is alot of childish name calling. I do enjoy hearing others opinions, even if I don’t agree. And secondly, for being as educated as you sound, you lack doesn’t due to the remark you just made that “he was a gun owning heterosexual and thus my enemy”
            So if someone that is straight and they own a gun, that makes them your enemy? WOW. That is like saying I don’t like red heads, or fat people, or people that drive minivans. Pretty shallow to judge someone…..or is it the GUN or their sexual orientation? I judge people usually by the content of their character. I have never shot anyone ( yet ), and would risk my life to protect even a homosexual if their life was in danger. Have a good one.

          127. DGJC says

            He was my enemy because he was out to kill gay people. You’re welcome as far as my civility goes.

          128. My2PenneysWorth says

            most conservatives are Christian. Allah is not the Christian God so another False and inaccurate claim by a left leaning socialist/Marxist homosexual atheist

          129. DGJC says

            This seems like a no-brainer (no pun intended), but research shows that the more religious you are the less intelligent and educated. I was astounded to know that this is also true of level of IQ. In other words, if you have a lower IQ you are more likely to be religious-ouch!

            http://www.humanreligions.info

            A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades
            has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than
            non-believers. A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

            According to the study entitled, ‘The Relation Between Intelligence and
            Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations’, published in the
            ‘Personality and Social Psychology Review’, even during early years the more
            intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from
            religion.

            http://www.independent.co.uk/n

            Low education level usually goes hand in hand with a tendency to be religious:

            http://www.gallup.com/poll/772

          130. My2PenneysWorth says

            That is a lot of crap

            I have an IQ of 144 which is considered above average

            Einstein was very religious along with the following

            • Antiseptic surgery, Joseph Lister
            • Bacteriology, Louis Pasteur
            • Calculus, Isaac Newton
            • Celestial Mechanics, Johannes Kepler
            • Chemistry, Robert Boyle
            • Comparative Anatomy, Georges Cuvier
            • Computer Science, Charles Babbage
            • Dimensional Analysis, Lord Rayleigh
            • Dynamics, Isaac Newton
            • Electronics, John Ambrose Fleming
            • Electrodynamics, James Clerk Maxwell
            • Electromagnetics, Michael Faraday
            • Energetics, Lord Kelvin
            • Entomology of Living Insects, Henri Fabre
            • Field Theory, Michael Faraday
            • Fluid Mechanics, George Stokes
            • Galactic Astronomy, Sir William Herschel
            • Gas Dynamics, Robert Boyle
            • Genetics, Gregor Mendel
            • Glacial Geology, Louis Agassiz
            • Gynecology, James Simpson
            • Hydrography, Matthew Maury
            • Hydrostatics, Blaise Pascal
            • Ichthyology, Louis Agassiz
            • Isotopic Chemistry, William Ramsey
            • Model Analysis, Lord Rayleigh
            • Natural History, John Ray
            • Non-Euclidean Geometry, Bernard Riemann
            • Oceanography, Matthew Maury
            • Optical Mineralogy, David Brewster
            are you stating all these brilliant and religious people have low intelligence?
            as for when people become conservative over Liberal I believe the quote is if you are under 25 and not a liberal you have no heart if you are over 40 and not a conservative you have no brain.
            these 2 pieces of information totally contradicts your statements and shows them to be totally false. you claim to have a brain I suggest you use it for more than playing chop sticks and calling that music

          131. DGJC says

            If you’re so smart, how come you can’t write a proper sentence with good spelling?

          132. My2PenneysWorth says

            probably because I am lowering myself to a liberals level of intelligence to get the facts across. I don’t put much thought into proving my intelligence or proving I am more intelligent than others. I have no need or self hubris to do so. unlike some people here I won’t mention names but his initials are DGJC

          133. DGJC says

            Those aren’t my initials.

          134. My2PenneysWorth says

            and yet you answer to them

          135. DGJC says

            Nope

          136. My2PenneysWorth says

            you just did

          137. DGJC says

            Nope

          138. DGJC says

            Guns don’t protect people. Last night’s shooting proves it.

          139. My2PenneysWorth says

            they would have if they had been allowed in the establishment but you kind has the blood on your hands by passing laws preventing people from protecting themselves
            GUN FREE ZONES invite terrorism and mass murders mostly done by LIBERAL mental cases like YOU

          140. DGJC says

            Guns invite terrorism. Not gun free zones.

          141. My2PenneysWorth says

            and yet all the terrorism that has occurred has been in GUN FREE ZONES gee for someone who is supposed to be able to follow music you sure have a problem with connecting the dots don’t you?
            BTW when was the last time you received an invitation from a gun? I never have and I have a few around the house

          142. DGJC says

            There is no such thing as a gun free zone in society where people are free to travel anywhere. Duh!!

          143. My2PenneysWorth says

            That is probably the most stupid statement you have made so far. when someone posts a notice stating ‘This is a GUN FREE ZONE” they are inviting nu cases to come and use their customer for targets like that movie theatre and sandy hook and other public schools and now even Target and Starbucks

          144. DGJC says

            Handing out more guns in a society with the highest rate of gun violence in the world makes as much sense as building more fast food joints in neighborhoods where obese people live.
            What is America thinking? It is time to ban ALL assault weapons-period.

          145. My2PenneysWorth says

            so we should abandon forks knives swords bats balls everything because they can all be used to “assault” please stop the liberal word play your only playing with yourself I’m not falling for it

          146. DGJC says

            They are used for a different purpose you moron. Guns exist solely to harm. You people are stupid and predictable.

          147. My2PenneysWorth says

            Actually you are the moron a gun is a tool how it is used is decided by the person who uses it. some are used a paper weights others have been used in place of a hammer Liberals are so stupid they can only see what is directly in front of them they always miss the forest because of the tree in front of them

          148. DGJC says

            Guns must be eliminated- period.

          149. DGJC says

            Guns should be eliminated.

          150. DGJC says

            Allowing more guns into the world’s capital of gun violence is like building more fast food joints near obese people. It makes no logical sense.

          151. My2PenneysWorth says

            it make more logical sense than any liberal has ever made. studies have shown when more people are armed, legally, crime rates go down gun control only affects law abiding citizens disarming them only puts them in greater danger

          152. DGJC says

            Here’s what you wrote:

            it make more logical sense than any liberal has ever made

            WTF????

          153. DGJC says

            When more people are armed more people die by gunshot. A fact….

          154. Robert says

            Are you truly THAT STUPID? Tell our military that guns don’t protect. Then, call Killery and tell her that she is in more danger because she has armed security all around her. What a joke! You need your “PhD” degree taken away, just like Ohomo needs his ” Noble Peace Award” taken!!! Just because you have a degree doesn’t mean you can actual “apply” it to good reason.

          155. DGJC says

            Research shows that guns don’t protect you and gun owners are more likely to die by gunshot.

          156. My2PenneysWorth says

            The nightclub was a GUN FREE zone making it target rich for liberal cowards like the one who shot it up

          157. jennings says

            A planned Terrorist attack from an ISIS supporter.
            Even Obama says it was an act of terror. I do not go to places that advertise “GUN FREE ZONES” That is just inviting a Cowardly Nut.

          158. My2PenneysWorth says

            Who as reported is a registered democrat hence the liberal label

          159. jennings says

            I think You have the wrong idea about most of the concealed weapons People. If You were in that club and if I was in there I would be carrying a semi auto pistol concealed or I wouldn’t be their. I would have been prepared to give up My life to save Yours or an other Person in their in a situation like that.
            It does not mater Your Religious belief, Race or sexual preference. I don’t carry a gun to act like a Sherriff or what ever but when something like that happens I would jump in head first. Legal concealed carry People will help You not go after You. We are not the Bad Guy’s.

          160. DGJC says

            Research is unequivocal: guns don’t protect you and you are more likely to die by gunshot than me, if you own a gun.

          161. jennings says

            I don’t know what research You are looking at but You tell Me what other protection You or any one in that club would have had
            other than another good person with a gun to take the bad Guy out. This is where this Country is thanks to Your useless undocumented Leader. If You can not realize this than I can not help You and this is the last of My wasted time with You.
            Good luck with Your Dreams.

          162. DGJC says

            Our country is where it is because we allowed people to buy guns. That was our first mistake.

          163. Tired... says

            Our country is where it is because the average person had guns in 1776. The British tried to confiscate them in order to remain in control…hmmm…gives one pause doesn’t it?

          164. DGJC says

            Our country is where it is- the world’s nation with the most gun violence- because of the damn 2nd amendment. It should be repealed.

          165. Tired... says

            Exactly.

          166. DGJC says

            You are more likely to die by gunshot than me. That works for me:
            I protect my family by not owning a gun. My sister’s brother-in-law killed himself in his backyard with a gun.

          167. Robert says

            At least he didn’t overdose and become a veggie that would burden the taxpayer. At least he did it correctly. Hanging, and cliff diving works well too ( just in case you reach the end of your rope and you don’t have a gun ). I thought you Liberals believe in a persons right to self termination? Or is that just for the unborn??

          168. DGJC says

            We believe all gun owners should commit suicide.

          169. DGJC says

            If we allow victims of gun violence to sue gun manufacturers and eventually shut them down for good, we could eventually eliminate all guns. That is my goal. I am also with Hillary in trying to repeal the 2nd amendment. Nobody should have a right to own a gun.

          170. My2PenneysWorth says

            so only the government should have guns right? Look how well that worked in 1939 in Germany

          171. DGJC says

            No, governments and police should not have guns, either. Nobody should have a gun.

          172. My2PenneysWorth says

            and in what fantasy world does that exist.
            this is the real world and I prefer to be able to defend myself

          173. DGJC says

            Owning a gun doesn’t provide defense.

          174. My2PenneysWorth says

            it most certainly does. police are not required to protect you they are only there to enforce the law after it is broken

          175. DGJC says

            It most certainly does not. I was held at gunpoint in Manhattan and not a policeman around to assist me. A lot of good they did… Not!

          176. My2PenneysWorth says

            you just proved my point police do not defend you can only depend on yourself
            you claim you were held at gunpoint but were not fired upon how do you explain your good fortune

          177. DGJC says

            My good fortune is that I didn’t have a gun with me. I would have been dead if I had had a gun.

          178. My2PenneysWorth says

            and how is that?
            Would your gun jump up and shoot you out of anger that you did not defend yourself?
            How can you possibly know that if you had a gun you would be dead

          179. DGJC says

            The idiot heterosexual would have shot me first if he saw I had a gun. He was on drugs and out of his mind.

          180. Robert says

            By your logic, cars should also be banned. I mean, folks drink Budweiser ( sue Bud ) then drive their Chevy ( sue Chevy ) and Firestone tires ( sue Firestone ) run over someone…. hell, it isn’t the drunks fault now is it???

          181. DGJC says

            Cars are used for transportation and nobody purposely kills someone with a car. Idiot. Conservatives have such low cognitive functions. Embarrassing!

          182. wonduh says

            You are a sick chick.

          183. DGJC says

            And you’re an immature moron. Grow up

          184. Tired... says

            Come on, offer a valid argument.

          185. Tired... says

            If we allow the victims of automobile accidents to sue the care manufacturers and the victims of drunken offenders to sue the breweries, wineries, and distilleries, then you might have a valid point. We don’t do this because we know that it is ridiculous. However now that I think about it, perhaps students who graduate with enormous debt and cannot find jobs in their fields should be able to sue their professors…

          186. DGJC says

            Only one problem with your logic: it’s illogical . Guns exist for one purpose : to kill and maim. Cars exist for another purpose. Gun manufactors meed to be shit down.

          187. Tired... says

            Your criticism is limited; guns exist for more reasons than you list, such as beauty, precision, and recreation. However, I believe that the opportunity to defend one’s life is a choice that should be left up to the individual rather than the state.

          188. DGJC says

            Guns don’t protect you. This is my point.

          189. DGJC says

            You’re not thinking very deeply. There are no guarantees with any profession in life. How is that equivalent to gun manufacturing, which makes a weapon designed for one puroose: to kill and maim.

          190. Tired... says

            Your underlying assumption is not accurate: There are more purposes to firearms than to kill and maim.

            However, it is true that the core defense of gun ownership centers on the constitutional right of the people to remove the government if it becomes tyrannical.

          191. DGJC says

            People sue auto manufacturers all the time of something is faulty.

          192. Tired... says

            Exactly! They sue if the vehicle is faulty, not for the actions of the driver.

          193. DGJC says

            Relevant? When a gun is used properly it leads to death. That point went over your head. Manufactors should be sued out of business.

          194. DGJC says

            Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children.

            And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

            If you have a gun, everybody in your home is more likely than your non-gun-owning neighbors and their families to die in a gun-related accident, suicide or homicide.

            Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that having a gun in your house reduces your risk of being a victim of a crime. Nor does it reduce your risk of being injured during a home break-in.

            The health risks of owning a gun are so established and scientifically non-controvertible that the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a policy statement in 2000 recommending that pediatricians urge parents to remove all guns from their homes.

            Notice that the recommendation doesn’t call for parents to simply lock up their guns. It stresses that the weapons need to be taken out of the house.

            Study after study has been conducted on the health risks associated with guns in the home. One of the latest was a meta-reviewpublished in 2011 by David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. He examined all the scientific literature to date on the health risks and benefits of gun ownership.

            What he found was sobering, to say the least.

            Accidental deaths

            To begin with, having a gun in the home is a risk factor for serious accidental injury and death. As Hemenway points out, death certificate data indicate that 680 Americans were killed accidentally with guns each year between 2003 and 2007. Half those victims were under the age of 25.

            Children aged 5 to 14 in the United States are 11 times more likely to die from an accidental gunshot wound than children in other developed countries.

            Nonfatal gun injuries occur at the average rate of 20 a day in the United States — and that doesn’t include pellet-gun injuries (which average 45 day) or injuries that don’t involve a bullet wound (like powder burns and recoil injuries).

            “One study of nonfatal accidental shootings found that the majority were self- inflicted, most involved handguns, and more than one third of the injuries required hospitalization,” writes Hemenway. “Injuries often occurred during fairly routine gun handling — cleaning a gun, loading and unloading, target shooting, and so on.”

            Suicides

            An average of 46 Americans committed suicide with guns each day between 2003 and 2007. In fact, more Americans killed themselves with guns during those years than with all other methods combined.

            Gun owners and their families are not more suicidal than non-gun-owners, research shows. No are they more likely to have a history of depression or other mental health problems.

            But they — and their families — are at significantly increased risk of successfully taking their lives with a gun. The reason: Guns are more lethal than other methods.

            One study found, reports Hemenway, that “in states with more guns, there were more suicides (because there were more firearm suicides), even after controlling for the percentage of the state’s population with serious mental illness, alcohol dependence or abuse, illicit substance dependence or abuse, and the percentage unemployed, living below the poverty level, and in urban areas.”

            But “there was no association between gun prevalence and a state’s nonfirearm suicide rate,” he adds.

            Homicides

            Two-thirds of all murders between 2003 and 2007 involved guns. The average number of Americans shot and killed daily during those years was 33. Of those, one was a child (0 to 14 years), five were teenagers (15 to 19 years) and seven were young adults (20 to 24 years), on average.

            Children in the U.S. get murdered with guns at a rate that is 13 times higher than that of other developed nations. For our young people aged 15 to 24, the rate is 43 times higher.

            “The presence of a gun makes quarrels, disputes, assaults, and robberies more deadly. Many murders are committed in a moment of rage,” writes Hemenway.

            “For example, a large percentage of homicides — and especially homicides in the home — occur during altercations over matters such as love, money, and domestic problems, involving acquaintances, neighbors, lovers, and family members; often the assailant or victim has been drinking. Only a small minority of homicides appear to be the carefully planned acts of individuals with a single-minded intention to kill. Most gun killings are indistinguishable from nonfatal gun shootings; it is just a question of the caliber of the gun, whether a vital organ is hit, and how much time passes before medical treatment arrives.”

            Benefits?

            The possible health benefits of gun ownership are twofold: deterring crime and stopping crimes in progress. But there are no credible studies, says Hemenway, that higher levels of gun ownership actually do these things.

            “The main reason people give for having a handgun in the home is protection, typically against stranger violence,” he writes. “However, it is important to recognize that the home is a relatively safe place, especially from strangers. For example, fewer than 30% of burglaries in the United States (2003-2007) occur when someone is at home. In the 7% of burglaries when violence does occur, the burglar is more likely to be an intimate (current or former) and also more likely to be a relative or known acquaintance than a stranger. Although people typically spend most of their time at home, only 5% of all the crimes of violence perpetrated by strangers occur at home.”

            In fact, adds Hemenway, research shows that most self-defense use of guns is not socially desirable.

          195. jimmy midnight says

            A nice compilation of real-world facts. Understanding them leads to better decision making, for some of us, anyway.

          196. DGJC says

            Thank you!

          197. Charlie says

            Your above post surely puts an exclamation point on my last retort to another one of your posts . You truly are a liberal with liberal believes that are backed by liberal “studies” that were composed by liberals .
            Certain cities have passed laws requiring all citizens to own guns . In these cities there is virtually no crime . Cities that have the strictest gun control laws have the highest violent crime rates this is factual not some “study”.

          198. DGJC says

            All professions are run by liberals, except for business owners who run sweatshops. I realize you think all educated people are liberals. That’s because we’re smarter than conservatives:

            http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html

          199. Charlie says

            Surely you jest on “All professions are run by liberals , except for business owners who run sweat shops” are you so caught up in your little reality to actually believe your statement ??? Then you follow ” I realize that you think all educated people are liberals” maybe you think this not me for the vast number of highly educated people that have been in my life with multiple degrees are quite conservative . Your last sentence just proves your egotistical arrogance and will thank-you for making me laugh .

          200. DGJC says

            Conservatives often complain that liberals control the media or the show business or the academia or some other social institutions. The Hypothesis explains why conservatives are correct in their complaints. Liberals do control the media, or the show business, or the academia, among other institutions, because, apart from a few areas in life (such as business) where countervailing circumstances may prevail, liberals control all institutions. They control the institutions because liberals are on average more intelligent than conservatives and thus they are more likely to attain the highest status in any area of (evolutionarily novel) modern life.
            https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives

          201. Tired... says

            Or Occam’s razor might suggest that since liberals control the institutions, they are the gatekeepers of those institutions not through intellect, but through power.

          202. DGJC says

            Possibly

          203. Tired... says

            We are not enemies, we just have a different point of view. What happened in Orlando was wrong, but people who support responsible gun ownership are not to blame for the actions of a zealot.

          204. DGJC says

            Perhaps

          205. DGJC says

            Do you at least agree that this guy should have never been allowed to purchase an automatic weapon? His coworker had complained to his boss about the guy’s violent language and anti-gay comments and the boss did nothing.

          206. Tired... says

            According to the news sites I have seen, the shooter was interviewed by the federal government three times. If his weapon was automatic, then they certainly fell down on the job, as owning automatic weapons requires an additional federal firearms license (with the accompanying background check and large fee) to purchase. It bothers me that he worked for a security firm tasked with protecting a number of important locations, yet his words and actions did not trigger any significant intervention. I think that our government made a conscious decision to place political correctness above truth and the such action has resulted in multiple deaths, beginning with Fort Hood. I think that he should have been stopped long before he purchased a gun but the fear of being called an islamophobe silenced those around him knew or suspected his intent. We have become a nation of fools who confuse disagreement with hate while making excuses for true hatred every time it kills some of our own.

          207. DGJC says

            We agree that the officials dropped the ball on this and they should be exposed so this doesn’t happen again.

          208. Tired... says

            Agreed.

          209. DGJC says

            Wow progress!!!!

          210. Charlie says

            Psychology is a pile of manure , personally think the vast amount of psychology is destructive and condescending . Irritating when someone like you thinks that you are in control of all arguments / debates because of the psychology you apply to said argument / debate .
            No matter what you send to me my believes are fully intact . My statements are factual not some psychological fiction . Believe as you want , live in your fantasy world of socialistic utopian believes that historically fail .

          211. DGJC says

            Spoken like a true pigheaded conservative. You lack empathy, which is why you’re not a liberal.

          212. Charlie says

            Dang you are judgmental , but with the degree you hold it’s probably hard not to be . As for empathy have tons for ideologies in which I agree . You are correct I am not a liberal .

          213. DGJC says

            Not judgmental, just observant.

          214. Tired... says

            Interesting, but Psychology Today is not a peer-reviewed journal. While of immense value, science is not as objective as some would believe, as the results of any study are subject to the interpretation of the researcher. We live in a world that doesn’t really know what lies at the bottom of the ocean, how many dimensions exist, or even have a cure for AIDS after three decades of research, yet is arrogant enough to believe that it understands the beginning of the universe.

          215. DGJC says

            Maybe true, but just remember that the researcher was a libertarian and if he was skewed it would have come out the opposite. He may have been surprised and not pleased with the result of his study.

          216. Charlie says

            Sort of like the government funded global cooling then global warming then climate change research ? Any research / study can be bias all it takes is money and the end result will be what the money wants . Is this stated simple enough for your confused brain ???

          217. DGJC says

            My brain is quite clear. The entire world believes global warming is happening. No country has disagree with that yet.

          218. Charlie says

            Just like the global cooling during the Carter administration , then global warming during the Clinton administration and now climate change during the Obama administration none are true . All of these political agendas are part of the UN’s agenda 21 now being called agenda 2030 . The British scientist were paid by politicians to produce the end result of their climate study . Five scientist to be exact , many other scientist have disproved the five. Climate change is about population control . The oceans are not rising , FL has not submerged nor has Manhattan or any islands . The sky is not falling it is a political ruse .

          219. DGJC says

            Sure- hagahaha

          220. Charlie says

            Just like the article’s author you are also a liberal . “All professions are run by liberals , except sweatshops” This is a lie for personally know CEOs of international businesses these CEOs are not liberals . “I realize you think all educated people are liberals” guess what you have made a false assumption just as egotistical arrogant liberals do . Then you finish with ” That’s because we’re smarter than conservatives;” followed by one of the most bias articles that any liberal could write . “You can fool some of the people some of the time , but you can not fool all of the people all of the time ”
            Just so you know will support Our Nation’s Constitution the foundation of all legal laws and Our Nation’s Bill of Natural ( God given not government given ) Rights to the day I die . If you want gun restrictions there are plenty of nations you can reside . “America love it or leave it” Actually feel sorry for any student that you indoctunated , notice I did not say educate .

          221. DGJC says

            If you want to own a gun in the future, you’ll have to consider living elsewhere. We liberals plan to change this.

          222. Charlie says

            Have a much better idea , since you want to live in a nation that has disarmed law abiding citizens you can drive to either country north or south of our nation . Either love America or leave it . Don’t screw with our Natural Bill of Rights for that is when you will see the silent majority wake up and really push back . My family has been on this continent since 1596 , pack your bags young man .

          223. DGJC says

            Nope. I’m not leaving and I intend to get rid of all guns. I have news for you, Thomas Jefferrson was one of my great great great…. great Grandfathers and our family goes back further than yours. Our country is swinging to the left whether you like it or not.

          224. Charlie says

            Dream on ! Further if Thomas Jefferson actually is in your blood line what the heck happened to you ?? As far as your manure that the country is swing left , not a chance . The motion of liberalism is grinding to a halt , the less than 3 % of our population that is homosexual only has so much power . The 97% majority is waking up , because of the mess the 3% has made of our nation . Liberalism . socialism / communism or whatever you call said political agenda never trumps our Constitutional Republic .. No loud whiny small group should ever control a nation based on the rule of their Constitutional Law the does include a Bill of Natural Rights.
            Just because you are in a small group that likes to be brash , bold , colorful does not mean that the majority is caught up in said life style . Just as would not impose or demand that you conform traditional values of our nation do not expect me to agree with your assessment of our nation’s future values .

          225. DGJC says

            Yet the country is swinging left. We had a candidate who is a socialist, you idiot

          226. Charlie says

            Yeah yell that message loud maybe those that are ignorant will believe your spew of manure . You are the typical small minded name calling liberal that has almost brought our nation to ruination . The socialist Sen. Sanders was just wall dressing for the Democrat Party , Hillary Clinton was chosen by super delegates before any democrat primary took place . The “Bern” never stood a chance . Further the evidence that the country is not swinging to the left is both the Senate and the House of Representatives are now controlled by the Republican Party . Soon so shall the executive branch . 🙂

          227. DGJC says

            I’m a typical high education, intelligent liberal who can see how our county is moving left. I never thought we’d have a socialist do as well as Bernie did. Why? Because young people are overwhelmingly liberal and moving more and more
            that direction.
            The ONLY reason that Congress moved to the Republicans in 2014 was because voter turnout was the lowest in 72 years. Democrats were happy with Obama and the way the country is going and didn’t vote. I didn’t vote in 2014. I didn’t care about anything on the ballot and our Congressional seats were safe.

          228. Charlie says

            You can state whatever you like thanks to our First Amendment that is protected from tyranny by our Second Amendment . If any more of the whiny loud very small percentage of our population spews their distant against our nation and the ignorant believe them then your statements will have some truth to them .
            You have a whole lot of information that is backwards . Believe what you want .

          229. DGJC says

            I believe the truth. I will also work to repeal the 2nd amendment. Nobody needs to have a gun. That includes police.

          230. Charlie says

            You surely live in a fantasy land . If you want to disarm first work on disarming those that are out to destroy our nation . If you want to live where nobody is armed purchase a boat so you can control your space and then go to sea so you are away from those of us in reality .

          231. DGJC says

            I can dream of a world without guns and work toward that end. Just as I dreamt of a day I could marry the man I love and now am happily married. Some dreams do come true.

          232. DGJC says

            Conservatives are out to destroy our nation and I won’t let you.

          233. Charlie says

            Conservatives built our nation . You stated that Thomas Jefferson was in your blood line he was conservative . So much BS in your brain .

          234. DGJC says

            Thomas Jefferson was an avowed anti-Christian who frequently spoke out against religion. He also had black mistresses. He, like Abraham Lincoln, was as liberal as they come. The ideologies of the GOP and Democrats shifted dramatically. You know nothing about history.

          235. DGJC says

            You’re conflating conservatism with the Republican Party. That’s two different concepts. Lincoln was an ultra liberal Republican. He would be in the Democratic Party if he were alive now.

          236. DGJC says

            Have you ever read the terrible things Jefferson said about Christianity?
            http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/jefferson.htm

          237. DGJC says

            Your guns are destroying our nation. We have a death rate from guns that is ten times that of most countries. It is time to eliminate guns.

          238. Charlie says

            Those are the UN’s New World Order talking points and all lies .

          239. DGJC says

            Those are reality points.

          240. DGJC says

            I live in the USA, which is increasingly moving towards socialism. With or without you.

          241. DGJC says

            The gay population is not less than eight percent.

          242. Charlie says

            Never said 8% . Are actual numbers hard for you to understand ? For you see in above post I used actual numbers with percentage symbol . Further the number used was 3% ( three percent ) .

          243. DGJC says

            You said three percent. The correct number is at least eight percent. You’re relaying on outdated CDC numbers from the 1980s.

          244. Charlie says

            Believe what you want . Live in your fantasy land with your utopia ideology where anyone can do as they please . Our nation is not a democracy it is a republic . Believe whatever you want , you will not convince this heterosexual married man to believe in any of your agendas or ideologies .

          245. DGJC says

            Yes our nation is a republic. This means the the majority cannot strip the rights form the homosexual minority without court stepping in to protect our rights. Too bad Scalia couldn’t grasp this basic concept.

          246. Charlie says

            Nobody has ever stripped rights from homosexuals . However homosexuals have overstepped with their promotion of their sexual desires by trying to impose special rights for homosexuals . Further the number of 8% is incorrect 3% might be high , just being vocal does not increase numbers . Further please do this at least respect the dead .

          247. DGJC says

            Liar. I live in a state where I was already married and a militant group of ignorant heterosexuals voted to ban my marriage and invalidate it. You’re so full of bull droppings. Yes the gay population is not less than eight oercent. That’s according to research in Europe. The percentage of gays in the population is the same regardless of the culture or country. It’s biological. The variable is the extent to which heterosexuals can accept it and treat gays with respect.

          248. Charlie says

            Never ever lied no matter what . Marriage is a contract in the eyes of the court system . Marriage in the eyes of God is a union between a man and a woman . This is the debate since our nation was founded as a Christian nation .The majority of the nation is still Christian and Jewish these believes that marriage is between a man and a woman are still very strong .
            It is biological to propagate the species . Homosexuals can not with their homosexual partner .
            We have reached an impassable point this debate between you and I needs to end .

          249. DGJC says

            Bulkshit. Our nation was founded because the Puritans wanted to escape a Christian nation. Moron

          250. BD says

            Read the Declaration of Independence. Guess you did not have to read that in music school.

            http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

          251. DGJC says

            Read up as to why the Puritans came here. They were escaping a nation where religion was controlled by the government and they wanted religious freedom. Our country is not a theocracy and as not founded on Christian principles. It’s what separates us from where we came from.

          252. BD says

            Religion should not be controlled by the government. And the government should not restrict people from practicing their faith.

            Your solution restricts people of faith from practicing their faith. My solution does not, and it allows same sex couples the same spouse benefits and recognition by the government.

            You really hate people of faith don’t you?

          253. DGJC says

            No it doesn’t. You’re free to have a religious wedding. The government just won’t recognize it. That’s fair.

          254. DGJC says

            Considering the fact we have eight billion humans and don’t need more, it’s a very good thing my husband and I don’t want to have children. We need fewer humans not more.

          255. DGJC says

            The rights of homosexuals to marry was stripped in the majority of states. That’s a violation of the 14th amendment. Nobody would accuse heterosexuals of being bright people.

          256. DGJC says

            Precisely, and I, as a gay man, won’t live by your ideologies nor religious beliefs. If you haven’t noticed, my side is winning and yours is losing…. Hillary will take away your guns. Rest assured.

          257. Charlie says

            Hillary belongs in prison for high crimes .
            Have nothing to say about your sexual believes . Nor do I want to continue to argue / debate with a man with an alleged PhD. in psychology . We , you and I , are at opposite ends of a debate . We could go on and on , but what is the point ? Enjoy your life , but don’t try to impose your believes on me .
            As far as our Second Amendment this Amendment was written to help squelch tyranny . ” A free citizen is an armed citizen ” Just think if some of the people in the club in Orlando FL had CCLs the nut job would of been stopped from killing 50 people wounding 53 people . Sad that you are so blind not to understand that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun ( there always will be bad guys with guns) is a good guy with a gun .

          258. DGJC says

            It is long past time to eliminate all guns. Police don’t have them in the UK and Japan. I never said my Ph D was in psychology.

          259. DGJC says

            As a college professor I can clearly see where our future generation is headed in terms of political beliefs, and it is further and further to the left. They oppose bigotry towards gays and oppose guns. You will see a tremendous change for the better in our country and you had better be prepared. Your side is quickly losing its grip as is evidenced by the fact that your party nominated a Hitler like
            figure who hasn’t the slightest chance of being elected.

          260. DGJC says

            The actual number is a minimum of eight percent. You said three: this is false.

          261. Robert says

            Please post a link that proves your point. Did you ever come across the statistics of how many crimes were averted due to a gun? Didn’t think so!

          262. DGJC says

            No crimes are diverted due to owning a gun.period

          263. Tired... says

            Even though you hate guns, surely you cannot believe that a gun has never frightened away a criminal?

          264. Robert says

            THOUSANDS of rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, and murders are avoided due to the victims having a gun. Most are not reported to police, but alot are either subdued, or dispatched. I am not trying to convince you that your vision is wrong (for you ), but only I am responsible for myself and my family’s safety. The police can’t be everywhere, and in reality, it isn’t the police dept responsibility to protect us. They are there to investigate AFTER a crime has been committed. Meanwhile, bad people will behave BADLY. I am not a 6foot 5inch football linebacker. And there are some thugs out there that could beat me into the ground easily. But, when I draw my Glock out and pump 15 rounds of hollow points into their carcass, that levels the playing field. Your statement above is a total fantasy. Admit it.

          265. DGJC says

            Once again: allowing more guns into the country which leads the world in gun violence is akin to building more fast food joints in an area of obese people. It makes no logical sense. We need to eliminate guns not encourage more of them. People are insane…..

          266. Tired... says

            The “possible health benefits” of having a gun in the home are not limited to determining crime and preventing crimes in progress as the study suggests. The provision of food, protection from wild animals, and ultimately protection from the government are also health benefits to owning a gun, yet they are not factored into the study. I grew up in an area where some families were dependent upon hunting to provide food for their families. No one suggests that owning guns does not entail risk, but so does going to the hospital, driving a car, imbibing an alcoholic beverage, or taking medication.

            When comparing death rates, one has to also include potentially confounding factors, such as alcohol consumption or mental illness, as well as consider residual effects, such increases in suicides/homicides by other methods or increases in violent crime following gun confiscation.

            In fact, you are more likely to die due to a medical error than you are from a gunshot wound (http://journals.lww.com/journalpatientsafety/Fulltext/2013/09000/A_New,_Evidence_based_Estimate_of_Patient_Harms.2.aspx).

            I am not really sure how one arrives at the conclusion “In fact, adds Hemenway, research shows that most self-defense use of guns is not socially desirable.” It appears to be an attempt to de-legitimize any defensive use of firearms.

          267. DGJC says

            Exactly how is taking a gun which is stored in your own home stealing? Lanza’s mother had a stash of guns that could arm an army. That’s not stealing.

          268. My2PenneysWorth says

            it is stealing when you SHOOT the rightful owner in the face to get the keys to unlock the guns and take them without permission

          269. DGJC says

            His mother had taken him to shooting ranges. She was complicit in her own death. She was a bad mother. She shouldn’t have had any guns in the home. Her action validated what I posted previously.

          270. My2PenneysWorth says

            the boy was on medication and he stopped taking it. the mother had planned to have him committed but waited too long nothing you posted earlier has been or ever will be validated. crazy people do crazy things no one know when someone will snap but I prefer to be ready to defend myself if someone does snap

          271. DGJC says

            She was stupid to take him to a gun range and paid for it with her own life. Bad mom.

          272. My2PenneysWorth says

            Actually that was a GOOD MOM she was teaching her son to respect firearms
            Unfortunately for her and the kids in that GUN FREE ZONE he was a nut case off his meds

          273. DGJC says

            And the mom is dead- so she’s a dumb mom.

          274. My2PenneysWorth says

            no she was a trusting person who trusted the wrong person she made a mistake and paid for it

          275. DGJC says

            She was a stupid fool who paid with her life for her stupidity. She shouldn’t have allowed a mentally ill child anywhere near a gun.

          276. My2PenneysWorth says

            aside from the name calling and I know as a liberal you really can’t help yourself I have to agree that she shouldn’t have allowed a mentally ill child anywhere near a gun whether he was taking his meds or not

          277. DGJC says

            Progress

          278. Charlie says

            So you believe that your parent’s home is their child’s home for ever and all that the parent owns also belongs to the child ? Your comments are talking points of gun control advocates that believe socialism with a central government is a workable ideology .
            You seem to like our First Amendment . The Second Amendment protects the First and all the rest of our Natural ( God given not government given) Rights .

          279. DGJC says

            Gun don’t protect you and gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot. That works for me. I protect my family by not having a gun in our home.

          280. Tired... says

            Perfect…that should work for everyone.

          281. Charlie says

            Shovel your socialistic manure to someone else that is gullible . your first sentence is a bold faced lie . How are you going to protect your family call the police ? Good luck with that by the time police arrive, if you were able to call them , the criminal would of completed the criminal action against your family . The criminal could of killed you with the pry bar used to enter your home . You are in fantasy land of the dolts .

          282. DGJC says

            I’ve been held at gunpoint in Manhattan. I bet you haven’t. You’re correct that the police didn’t protect me. You’re incorrect if you think me having a gun would have helped me. I’d be dead if I had had a gun. The nut was tweaked out on drugs and would have shot first.

          283. Charlie says

            Sorry about your luck .

          284. DGJC says

            All I lost was ten dollars and not my life. Thank you.

          285. Tired... says

            That is not a rational argument. Are you suggesting that a 14 year old who takes the keys to the family car cannot be arrested for stealing the car just because they live in the house?

          286. DGJC says

            What?

          287. DGJC says

            Exactly why would I threaten your family? I’m a college professor. How stupid you are. Yes, your family is more likely to die from YOUR guns than from any intruder.

          288. My2PenneysWorth says

            I would suggest you return your degree I would not have anyone study under you with your Marxist ideologues

          289. DGJC says

            I don’t teach anything political.
            My students become liberals on their own. That’s what happens when you get educated.
            http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html

          290. Tired... says

            That’s what happens when only one side of a story is told over and over again. If critical thinking is taught, along with the presentation of differing viewpoints, then student ideology should show a more conventional distribution.

          291. Tired... says

            We all teach out of our worldview and our worldview subsumes politics. Human beings are not objective creatures.

          292. DGJC says

            I’ve never mentioned a political word to any of my students. It’s not appropriate when discussing music. I went to a music conservatory, Juilliard, which also never mentioned anything political.

          293. Tired... says

            I understand , but worldview saturates every area of our lives and supersedes the spoken word.

          294. My2PenneysWorth says

            no that is what happens when you have a liberal Marxist shoving lies down your throat when they leave fantasy land a get into the real world they become conservatives

          295. DGJC says

            Yawn. You’re brainwashed and brain dead.

          296. My2PenneysWorth says

            at least, unlike you, I have a brain to be washed and or die. not a lump of inorganic mud moving around in a cavity making noise

          297. DGJC says

            Sure, which is why I have a Ph D and you don’t. I have four published books and you don’t. I have eighteen CDs and you don’t.

          298. My2PenneysWorth says

            funny I never stated what I have so how do you know what I have and don’t have
            true I don’t have any CD’s I transferred them to the cloud and I don’t play music when I asked my parents to allow me to learn to play the piano I was told no it was only for girls

          299. DGJC says

            Your parents realized you had no talent. That’s why you’re a Walmart greeter and I’m a famous pianist. It takes brains, and brute physical stamina to do what I do.

          300. My2PenneysWorth says

            I have no doubt that it takes a lot of stamina to play the piano. My daughter plays it and I can see how much work it takes.

            Insults show that you really have the lack of brains to be a great musician but you can keep deluding yourself most mentally disturbed people do

            Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable.
            There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated.

          301. DGJC says

            Paranoia and homosexuality? Hahahaha what the hell are you talking about.
            I’m already a world respected pianist and don’t need to be reminded of this.

          302. DGJC says

            In order for something to be considered a mental illness (DSM) it must fit three criteria. Homosexuality does not even meet one of those three criteria.

          303. DGJC says

            This article mentions five criteria for DSM, and homosexuality doesn’t meet anything on that list. Not one….

            http://www.saybrook.edu/newexistentialists/posts/05-11-12/

          304. wonduh says

            OMG, one of those ilk? Now we understand “another liberal”.

          305. DGJC says

            Oh my god, another retard conservative. Yawn

          306. My2PenneysWorth says

            Actually what shortens your lifespan is allowing liberals and democrats like Adam Lanza have access to firearms

          307. DGJC says

            Blame his mother for that.

          308. My2PenneysWorth says

            she followed the law like most criminals he ignored the law

          309. DGJC says

            And she’s dead. Your point?

          310. My2PenneysWorth says

            laws do not protect people
            people who kill do not respect laws
            do you see a connection yet? genius

          311. DGJC says

            They managed to virtually eliminate guns in Australia. I’ve been there, I know. Japan and the UK also.

          312. My2PenneysWorth says

            and in Australia their violent crime has gone up in Japan they like to use knives something that seems to be happening a lot more in that liberal Bastion of Gun control New York BTW how come the cities with the most strict gun control laws has the highest gun violence?

          313. DGJC says

            I’ve been to Jaoan five times and it’s the safest country on the planet. I was told not to walk alone in Brazil without a Brazilian body guard at my side.

          314. My2PenneysWorth says

            I have never been anywhere where I needed a bodyguard
            I was always able to take care of myself

          315. DGJC says

            You’ve never been to Rio de Janeiro. I have….

          316. DGJC says

            I’ve been to Australia and Japan. You have not. What do you know?

          317. My2PenneysWorth says

            wrong
            I do know you have a self image problem and have to tell everybody how great and wonderful you are
            but that is only in your own little mind to me you are about as significant as an ant

          318. DGJC says

            If you had thousands of people regularly praising you, you’d be proud, too. Unfortunately you don’t…..

          319. DGJC says

            What shortens your lifespan is owning a gun. My sister’s brother in law killed himself in his birthday.

          320. MildBill says

            . . . . .Are you referring to the Sandy Hook Hoax, or the Sandy Hook, Line and Sinker follow up to the saga. . . Are you too a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild ?

        2. DGJC says

          You don’t have a right to put my life at risk because you own a gun. Hell no!!!

          1. woodworker says

            Tell that to Diane Feinstein. She carries one.

          2. DGJC says

            I don’t care who carries a gun. It will always be immoral and it will not protect you.

          3. My2PenneysWorth says

            Actually I will be much more protected than you because I don’t have to depend on others for my protection

          4. DGJC says

            You are four times more likely to die by gunshot than me. That works for me.

          5. My2PenneysWorth says

            and you are 100 times more likely to die from an STD or AIDs than I am and probably a lot sooner then I will from a gunshot
            That works for me, better

          6. DGJC says

            Nope. In fact 80-90 percent of HIV infections are due to heterosexual sex.

          7. My2PenneysWorth says

            better check your facts there Skippy you are totally in error on this one

          8. DGJC says

            I do have my facts right, cupcake.

            This is from the World Health Organization:

            HETEROSEXUAL AIDS

            heterosexual intercourse is now responsible for 80-90% of all HIV transmissions worldwide. The current likelihood of male to female infection after a single exposure to HIV is 0.01-0.32%, and the current likelihood of female to male infection after a single exposure is 0.01-0.1%. These estimates are mostly derived from studies in the developed world. However, a man or a woman can become HIV-positive after just one sexual contact.

            HETEROSEXUAL AIDS

            By the end of 2005, 63,500 adults aged 15 to 59 were estimated to be living with HIV in the United Kingdom. This figure includes diagnosed people and 20,100 who were unaware of their infection. Infections acquired heterosexually have accounted for the much of the rapid rise in the numbers of new HIV diagnoses (4,049 in 2005 compared to 840 in 1996). Just under two thirds (2,571) of heterosexually acquired HIV infections diagnosed in 2005 were in women

            HETEROSEXUAL AIDS

            Up to 60 percent of orphaned children in Africa are orphans because they lost both parents to AIDS. Africa is home to only 14 percent of the world’s population, yet has over 70 percent of all HIV infections. AIDS is primarily a heterosexual disease worldwide.

            HETEROSEXUAL AIDS

            From the UK: Infections acquired heterosexually have accounted for the much of the rapid rise in the numbers of new HIV diagnoses (4,049 in 2005 compared to 840 in 1996). Since 1999 the number of new HIV diagnoses among heterosexuals have outnumbered those among gay and bisexual men.

            HETEROSEXUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR AIDS CRISIS

            AIDS was introduced to humanity in Africa as early as 1930. It was not recognized as a distinct disease until some gay men became infected in the West a half century later. That’s because the symptoms are generic and often match symptoms of common diseases in Africa. Without the courageous activism of the gay community, there would have never been any treatments developed and the continent of Africa may well have been wiped clean off the map. African heterosexuals owe a debt of gratitude to gays in the West.

            HETEROSEXUALS BROUGHT AIDS TO NORTH AMERICA

            It is now documented that AIDS came to North America via Haitian heterosexual immigrants, who were infected in Africa. This happened in the late 1960s, and it took a further decade before any gay men were infected in North America. It is believed the virus was largely confined to South Florida, but made its way up the East Coast via bisexual Haitian men. This article documents it well:
            AIDS Virus Traveled to Haiti, then USA study says, National Geographic News, Oct 29, 2007

            It is a myth to say that gay men introduced AIDS to the USA. This is absolutely false, and verifiably false.

          9. My2PenneysWorth says

            are you old enough to remember back in the 70’s when aids appeared? I am and I will state you are empirically WRONG

          10. DGJC says

            I’m correct. In fact, we now know that it was Haitiain heterosexuals who brought AIDS to America in the 1960s. Nobody noticed this disease until gay men got sick a decade later. There were Africans with AIDS in the 1930s. Nobody cared.

            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071029-aids-haiti.html

          11. My2PenneysWorth says

            actually no you are not correct
            http://www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-science

          12. DGJC says

            Nothing in this report contradicts anything I’ve said.

          13. DGJC says

            In case you missed it the first three times I posted it:

            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071029-aids-haiti.html

          14. Mike Pasch says

            You are Insane. You probably couldn’t pass the background check to legally own a gun. How do You figure I am putting Your life in danger? All I know about You is You are a nutcase.

          15. DGJC says

            You are the nutcase and I hope that you don’t live anywhere near me. I live in a big city and am more likely to be threatened than you. I have been held gunpoint in Manhattan and wouldn’t be here to tell the story if I had had a gun. The guy was on drugs and had no idea what he was doing. He would have shot first if I had a gun. People who own guns are idiots.

          16. Robert says

            Troll. Police have guns and Diane Finkelstein has a gun. Yes, she is “special”.

          17. DGJC says

            Diane Feinstien is my senator and she’s wrong on this issue. She also opposes automatic weapons.

          18. Robert says

            Full automatic weapons are HIGHLY regulated. The cost of just one “M-16” which is a true “assault” weapon, has a cost of more than 10,000 just to obtain. And not one legally owned FULL AUTOMATIC weapon has ever been used in a crime here in America. NOT ONE. When you hear about “assault” weapons they are either a semi-auto, or if they are a full automatic, then they were smuggled in from MEXICO and usually they are AK47’s ( Russian made ) and are smuggled here by the Drug Cartels. Not by legal good guy gun owners.

          19. DGJC says

            How did that murderer in Orlando get such a weapon legally?

          20. Robert says

            As an American citizen, and with no felony charges, he was able to legally purchase an AR-15. It is one of the most common rifles made. I also have one. Not very powerful in terms of ballistics. I also hunt. My deer rifle will shoot almost three times the effective range of a .223 cartridge. And has triple the energy at a hundred yards of an AR-15.
            The fact that he was investigated TWICE, and both times there were no cause to arrest him as he had committed no crimes, was the laws working as they should. The government just can’t say “you are a Muslim and we watched you, and you went to Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates for Islamic “programming” so you can’t purchase a gun”
            Do you honestly think Obama would allow his fellow Muslim brothers to be PROFILED and denied their rights to spread hatred and violence. These are the people that Obama and Hillary welcome and encourage, and force America to accept by the hundreds of thousands. They( Islamic extremists) hate Christians, and they hate gays. But go ahead, and vote for Hillary. I DO HAVE MY GUNS, AND AM WILLING TO PROTECT any American from these savages. A vote for Hillary is a vote for more Hate toward LGBTQ. But Liberals just can’t understand THAT.

          21. DGJC says

            Sure. I thought Hillary was against guns?? That’s why I’m voting for her.
            No human being should be able to own the type of gun that idiot had. Nobody…..

          22. Robert says

            The Constitution guarantees We The People the right to own and possession of any type of firearm , including fully automatic firearms, but it doesn’t force YOU to keep one. If you feel I shouldn’t have one, is the same as me saying you shouldn’t have the right of free speech, or the right to assemble, or your right to a fair trial… Of course, you can feel how you want, and can exercise YOUR right to NOT to buy or use or possess one, but you don’t have the right to deny me my right to do so.
            So, you go right ahead and vote for her. She will continue to encourage these monsters to come here and kill people just like you. Me, I will do my best to give them what they want. To meet their maker, and their 72 goats.

          23. DGJC says

            It’s time to start to eliminate all guns. No human needs a gun. We have more humane ways to kill animals and no human should die this way. Other countries have done it, so so can we.

          24. DGJC says

            You’re trying to force me to believe in your god. That’s what you people do. According to your opinion, heterosexual couples who are atheists have no right to marry. That’s bull droppings. Your god has no say in who can and cannot marry. Besides that, there are Reformed Jewish rabbis, and clergy of nearly every Christian denomination that will marry gay couples. Who the hell are you to tell them they can’t do this? There is a Baptist church around the corner from us that advertises gay weddings in the gay newspaper. That’s right: BAPTIST. There are even liberal Muslim imams who marry gay couples, believe it or not.

            You obviously live in some backwards hick place where you are out of touch with reality. Gay marriage has swept the globe and now every country in Western Europe allows gays to have the same marriage rights as straights. Italy became the latest to legalize it. It’s not even sensational news any longer. China is discussing it, as is Vietnam.

          25. DGJC says

            Obama is a Christian, not that it’s any better than a Muslim. I’m waiting for the first atheist president. They will bring peace to our country.

          26. Robert says

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but NO,he is a Muslim. May not be a “practicing” Muslim, but definitely a Muslim. Both of his fathers BOTH were muslims, and he, by his own admission, went to a Muslim school in Indonesia. In almost every department in his administration, he has appointed a Muslim, including CIA, and Homeland Security. His boss is a woman names Valerie Jerrett, who was born in Iran, and her parents are practicing Muslims, as well as Hillary’s bestest friend Huma Abedin, who has BOTH parents are in the Muslim Brotherhood and supports HAMAS, which is a terrorist group. This is all fact. The “church” that Obama went to for twenty years is run by another Muslim ( Jeremiah Wright )who is bestest friends with Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan, who some say was responsible for Malcolm X’s murder. I don’t know that to be true, but is very probable. You would be better off with Trump. Hillery is going to be going to prison soon. She won’t be around to take our guns, and even if she gets a pardon, she will never get them anyways! Unless there is a civil war, and I am dead!

          27. DGJC says

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but Obama is a Christian (sad to say).

          28. DGJC says

            You’re a typical low information, unintelligent conservative sheep who has no brain, no common sense, no education and a very low IQ. Religious people always have low IQs.

          29. DGJC says

            This seems like a no-brainer (no pun intended), but research shows that the more religious you are the less intelligent and educated. I was astounded to know that this is also true of level of IQ. In other words, if you have a lower IQ you are more likely to be religious-ouch!

            http://www.humanreligions.info/intelligence.html

            If you believe in god, you are more likely to be less intelligent than those of us who do not believe:
            A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades
            has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than
            non-believers. A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

            According to the studyentitled, ‘The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations’, published in the ‘Personality and Social Psychology Review’, even during early years the more intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from religion.

            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-people-are-less-intelligent-than-atheists-according-to-analysis-of-scores-of-scientific-studies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html

            Low education level usually goes hand in hand with a tendency to be religious:

            http://www.gallup.com/poll/7729/does-more-educated-really-less-religious.aspx

          30. DGJC says

            I wish we had more Muslims in top government positions. Maybe they could get guns eliminated?

          31. DGJC says

            If you were a gay person, would you be more afraid of a lone crazy gunman or a country which officially would put you to death for being gay that was encouraged to do this by Christian missionaries?

            http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/14/local/la-me-ra-when-american-christian-evangelicals-export-hate-not-love-20140314

          32. joe says

            I would never be one of those they are not right

          33. DGJC says

            Your religion is based on hate, judgment and is pure evil. You are worse than ISIS.

          34. DGJC says

            Is it just me, or am I better at this than you

          35. DGJC says

            You are mentally ill. You are more likely than me to rape, abuse a woman, molest a boy, commit a mass shooting, commit a violent crime or rape another man. Why don’t you just kill yourself now and make our planet a better place?

          36. DGJC says

            So shooting up a gay club somehow makes you idiots feel more “normal?” How does that work?

          37. joe says

            hey moron it was a fruitcup that did the shooting, one of your own kind it just proves how sick you really are. A gay guy with a gun yes I know it sounds very unlikely but it was a fancy lad that did this are you proud of that you sick twisted freak

          38. DGJC says

            Yes heterosexual males are indeed mentally ill. Just read your comments.

          39. joe says

            hey you dullard you are the one calling for letting more muslims in yes why dont we do that maybe they can toss you off the roof of a building, damn are you stupid even as a fraud you can not make any sort of argument about anything that makes sense

          40. DGJC says

            Incomplete sentence. You’re proving that conservatives have lower IQs and intelligence. Stupid.

          41. joe says

            how did you get on this forum, nutjobs are just hard to pick out we can not get them all

          42. DGJC says

            You are a nut job and so uneducated that you can’t write a complete thought.

          43. joe says

            and you are a sick lunatic that makes up fake identities in forums what is wrong with you. You need to get a life you sick person

          44. DGJC says

            Incomplete sentences and gibberish. No, I made up no identities.

          45. joe says

            there is NOTHING WRONG with owning that weapon it is NO different than ANY other mag fed semi auto rifle NO DIFFERENT. We are dealing with a sick person a lunatic. It has nothing to do with the gun you dimwit it is the sick minded GAY guy that pulled the trigger

          46. DGJC says

            Owning a gun is immoral-period.

          47. joe says

            there are no automatic weapons on the streets chuckwagon

          48. DGJC says

            There are

          49. Tired... says

            First, I am sorry that you found yourself in that situation. That is a difficult place to be and I imagine that it was very traumatic for you.

            In the situation that you describe he would probably have shot first if you chose to pull a gun, but keep in mind that just because someone carries a gun doesn’t mean that they always show it or use it. Had you been carrying in that scenario, the choice would have been yours. Unfortunately others are not here simply because they could not carry; the choice should have been theirs, but states like California denied them the right to defend their lives against the immoral actions of others.

          50. DGJC says

            I’m proud of my state for its gun stance. Thanks for your sympathy it was traumatic and happened in the subway that I used every day.

          51. joe says

            it never happened, trust me never happened he is a fraud and a liar period

          52. joe says

            ha ha ha ha you are getting worse sparky more and more of the old you is showing watch it others will begin to figure you out as well

          53. DGJC says

            Old me? Who is that, cupcake?

          54. DGJC says

            I noticed that you’re too much of a pussy to show your face. Typical heterosexual conservative loser….

          55. DGJC says

            I’m insane? Let’s see here, I have a Ph D, published four books and taught at four universities from New York to California. How is that insanity? Hahahaha

          56. joe says

            What is the title of one of your books?

          57. DGJC says

            Sorry, I cannot reveal my identity on the Internet. I’ve been stalked by crazed heterosexuals several times. One of them was doing so from the Ukraine and it was frightening. He called my university. No joke….

          58. joe says

            If you cannot back-up your bragging then do not brag.

          59. DGJC says

            I can, I just don’t do it to imbeciles like you. Go shoot yourself.

          60. joe says

            Since you claim to be a published author, I made the basic error of thinking you to be a rational human being.
            I was incorrect.
            You are a neo-liberal as indicated by your ad hominem attack and total lack of substantive argument.
            As before, if you cannot support your braggadocio, the stfu.

          61. joe says

            he never wrote anything in his life except maybe a confession to the local law he is a fraud I know him

          62. DGJC says

            I’m a socialist and to the left of liberals.

          63. joe says

            Anything left of today’s neo-liberals would place you at the point of dictatorship, identical the those who are at the most extreme right-wing position. Sorry for your misconception but the extreme of either side is identical with the other.
            A tyrant is a tyrant whether he is labelled socialist, capitalist, leftist, Democratic, Republican, Democrat, Fascist, or any other thing; the result is the same.

          64. DGJC says

            Very true and many people refuse to accept that Hitler was far right and was the logical conclusion to conservative principles. Donald Trump is his reincarnation.

          65. joe says

            “We are Socialists, we are enemies of the capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” From Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927. (Toland, John. Adolf Hitler. New York. Anchor Books. 1992. Print.)

            “The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.” (Hitler, Adolph. Mein Kampf. Charleston. CS Publishing. 2016. Print.)

          66. DGJC says

            Yawn. Hitler was far right and took conservative principles to their logical conclusion. Trump is his spawn.

          67. DGJC says

            I’m an enemy of the capitalist system as well. But I’m no fascist nor communist.

          68. joe says

            You are not capitalist, you are not socialist, you are not anarchist, and in fact, you have made no statement of your stances, political, social, or economic; you stand for nothing, do you?
            In your other reply, you indicated extreme boredom by your “yawn” as you refuted Adolph Hitler’s own certification that he and his party were/are socialist, thus leftist.
            Again, you prove that you do not have a core belief in anything, thus discussion with you is only debate exercise for me and mental masturbation for you.
            Are you having fun?

          69. DGJC says

            Hitler was extreme right. He took conservatism to its logical conclusion. Trump is his spawn.

            Question: why are Neo-Nazis called extreme right wing?

          70. joe says

            Neo-Nazis are **called** “extreme right wing” only by the neo-liberal leftists. Please note, my dear DGJC, that just because the leftists _call_ a Nazi “right wing” does not change the fact that Mr. Hitler’s party was and is extreme _left_ wing, as is our “mr.” obama and his ilk.

          71. DGJC says

            No, because fascism is a logical extension of conservative principles.

          72. joe says

            I repeat, for your edification, Mr. Hitler’s statement, “We are Socialists…”

          73. DGJC says

            I repeat for your education: fascism is far right politics. Hitler took conservative principles to their logical conclusion.

          74. DGJC says

            I think you need to brush up on your English skills. The word “fascist” means the exact opposite of what you think it means: the word fascist is intended to mean “oppressive”, “intolerant”, “chauvinist”, “genocidal”, “dictatorial”, “racist”, or “aggressive”—all concepts that are allegedly inspired by the ideology of actual fascism, and pervasive through fascist states. It is associated with conservative, far-right politics.

          75. DGJC says

            In all fairness to us both, it is far more complicated than either of us are saying. But in Europe Neo-Nazis are considered far right not left. The man who killed the British MP was a far right nut who hates immigrants (like Trump).
            Something to ponder:

            https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-call-Fascism-right-wing

          76. DGJC says

            I often think the Prop 8 was akin to Krystallnacht. It was an intolerant majority stripping rights from a disaffected minority.

          77. joe says

            He is a fraud he was in here under several different names and photos I recognise his twaddle, the exact same lies he/she/it spewed in here before he has never accomplished anything meaningfull in life

          78. My2PenneysWorth says

            not only are you insane anyone who authorized you a PH D is also in question

          79. DGJC says

            Authorized? I earned my Ph D. Given the level of your writing skills, there is no question you did not go to college. Not even community college.

          80. My2PenneysWorth says

            you get a PH D through a committee that means AUTHORIZED. I went to the College of William and Mary, Penn State, The University od Pennsylvania and the University of New Orleans. My education was spread over a couple of decades because I had no help in funding from my family and I served in Viet Nam I majored in Computer Science and still work in that field for the Dept. of Defense. At least I do more for my country then make noise on 88 keys

          81. DGJC says

            Majored in computer science??? That says it all.

          82. My2PenneysWorth says

            Like having a PHD in music says anything?
            get over yourself

          83. DGJC says

            It says a lot. You couldn’t do it. I did.

          84. My2PenneysWorth says

            you don’t know what I can do and cannot do so as I stated before get over yourself you may have a skill I don’t but you are definitely not better than anyone else

          85. DGJC says

            I know you can’t write and you have no fricking clue what the word plagiarism means.

          86. My2PenneysWorth says

            can prove you wrong again

            plagiarism
            an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author’s work as one’s own, as by not crediting the original author:

          87. DGJC says

            You cut and pasted stuff too, moron. Like the fake list of voter fraud which you probably got from right wing media and it’s false.

          88. joe says

            His only skill is in lying actually he is not very good at that I catch him in lies all the time like any time he opens his piehole

          89. joe says

            And neither could you chuckles ,neither could you.

          90. DGJC says

            Sure

          91. joe says

            he has a PHD in fraud nothing else he is not who he is pretending to be I know this guy he has pulled this garbage in other forums he keeps changing his name and photo.

          92. DGJC says

            I do more for humanity than killing people. My name is recognized around the globe in my field. I’m also the author of four published books , which is why I know what is plagiarism and what isn’t.

          93. My2PenneysWorth says

            Hate to burst your bubble
            I do not recognize you or your name and I live on this globe so that statement is proven false. you may do more for humanity than killing people but there is no proof of that. and if killing one person saves the lives of many then I am down with that.
            a lot of plagiarists have published books so what. if you cut and paste and fail to give credit to the person you cut and paste from you are a plagiarist end of discussion

          94. DGJC says

            Hate to burst your bubble, but I haven’t given you my name and that’s on purpose. Unless you follow classical music, you wouldn’t recognize me.

          95. My2PenneysWorth says

            doesn’t
            I just proved your statement like all your other ones false
            and yes I do follow classical music I prefer it to the other alternatives to music

          96. DGJC says

            Great, then you probably have some
            of my CDs and didn’t know it.

          97. My2PenneysWorth says

            no way on this earth or this reality
            I do not have any classical music from the last two decades
            However I am not close minded I would not refuse to listen to you play and if I though you were good I would inform you of it.
            I may disagree with your politics but that does not mean I would dislike your music

          98. DGJC says

            Well my first CD was recorded in 2000, so who knows?

          99. joe says

            ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

          100. DGJC says

            Lalalalalalala

          101. DGJC says

            My recordings have aired in Canada, across the US, Israel, Germany and Argentina to name a few.

          102. My2PenneysWorth says

            and how would I know if I heard it or not

          103. DGJC says

            You said you’d never heard of me. I say you probably have.

          104. joe says

            ha ha ha ha funny you are really stretching it now I never heard you use that one before. No matter we still know you are a fraud we know who you are

          105. DGJC says

            No, those are facts. Learn to write like an adult, idiot.

          106. joe says

            nope I know who you are so I know that is all made up garbage little man. You can not get away with this I pick you out every single time no matter how many times you change your photo and name it is very easy to pick you out.

          107. DGJC says

            Shut up tard. Go molest a boy

          108. DGJC says

            No you don’t.

          109. DGJC says

            Says the heterosexual coward who won’t show his face. Classic. Pussy!

          110. DGJC says

            Little man?
            Think again. Gay men have larger penises, scientifically proven:

            http://www.salon.com/1999/11/04/size/

            You don’t measure up to us gay men. You have smaller brains, smaller penises, lower cognitive functions, inferior spatial memory and verbal skills. You earn less money and have less education. You are violent by nature and commit 98 percent of all child molestations. Your inferiority is what made you shoot up a gay club.

            You’re less than me, cupcake. Your IQ is half that of mine..

          111. joe says

            you know you can be cured of that sickness right gays are all mentaly unbalanced it can be fixed with drugs and electroshock treatments. You are a very small sick portion of the population given time we can fix you all

          112. DGJC says

            I have a biological gift and am intellectually superior to you:

            Homosexuality is a biological gift.
            Homosexual males have superior cognitive functions
            Homosexuals have superior spatial memory skills
            Homosexuals have superior verbal skills (read below for proof)
            source: wikipedia; biology and sexual orientation)
            Homosexuals earn more money
            Homosexuals have more education (read below for proof)
            Homosexuals have better sex more often (read the frustrations of the heterosexual males on this thread)

            I’m sorry you hetero-losers lack this gift. Not my problem.

          113. DGJC says

            What is the level of your education? I would bet you didn’t graduate from high school.

          114. joe says

            ha ha ha excuse me if I ever gave the impression that what you think matters to me in any way.

          115. DGJC says

            Hahahaha you’re a moron

          116. DGJC says

            Sure. Hahahaha moron

          117. joe says

            no one would ,you are a fictional character the rantings of a lunatic mind. We all know who you are little man changing the photo and name did not work. You are so easy to pick out you ramble the same garbage over and over you can change your name and photo but not your delusional thought patterns

          118. DGJC says

            Heterosexual males are mentally ill

          119. joe says

            You would not exist if not for us you freak

          120. DGJC says

            Where did you get the information that my parents were heterosexual? I’ve never mentioned their sexual orientation. Thousands of gays have biological children.

          121. DGJC says

            I changed no name nor picture.

          122. DGJC says

            I probably don’t perform in the hamlet where you live. If you lived in London, Buenos Aires, New York, San Francisco, Bangkok, or Singapore, you could have heard me in person.

          123. My2PenneysWorth says

            Places I have grudgingly visited but never want to live in I like the open country that’s why I commute over 100 miles one way daily to go to work

          124. DGJC says

            Cause you can’t afford to live where I live. Got it. Apartments rent for $3500 a month for one bedrooms.

          125. My2PenneysWorth says

            No I am not stupid enough to pay that, besides why would I I own my house and 10 acres of land to boot

          126. DGJC says

            I agree that it is stupid to pay that much in rent. We’ve lived here long enough to not pay that much. The penthouse apartment across the street is going for $8000 a month. No joke.

          127. joe says

            liar

          128. DGJC says

            Liar

          129. joe says

            Hey little twat I know who you are all you did was change your name and photo. You are easy to pick out your stories are always the same you are a fraud and a liar. You have led an insignificant meaningless life and come here for attention. You are not smart enough to pull off the identity swap little fella what makes you think you are smart enough to speak about anything in here.

          130. DGJC says

            Liar

          131. joe says

            Nope I know who you are it is easy to pick you out you do this all the time but you are just not smart enough to pull it off. Your ignorant spew is easy to recognise

          132. DGJC says

            The word recognize has no “s.”
            You are not American.

          133. DGJC says

            You don’t know shiit.

          134. DGJC says

            My life is ten times more meaningful, useful and satisfying than yours. Remind me of your academic qualifications. How many CDs have you recorded? How many of your books have been published?

            None. OK.

          135. joe says

            you are a sick little man it is wrong to make up stories

          136. DGJC says

            Nope

          137. joe says

            lying fraud you are on welfare

          138. DGJC says

            Incomplete thought. You could not live in my city on welfare. It’s the most expensive city in America.

          139. DGJC says

            Tell that to my face , loser

          140. joe says

            he is a known liar he or she or what ever it is spewed the exact same twaddle under at least two or three different names I recognise the story almost word for word. This is a sick individual seeking attention that is not a real picture of what ever is behind the keyboard. Check out his numbers he/she/it seems to have lots of time for forums wonder how it does that when he/she/it is always writing books and helping starving children around the world ha ha it is the rantings of a very sick person .

          141. My2PenneysWorth says

            agreed

          142. joe says

            you are a liar as well and not even a good one wow you come in here change your picture change your name but spew the exact same twaddle. You are not even smart enough to change the story around a little bit, we all know who you are you sick deviant. You are a nobody an insignificant failure that comes here with made up stories to try to make yourself sound important. This did not work the last three times you tried it and it wont work this time you are too easy to see through. I really think you need to seek professional assistance little fella

          143. DGJC says

            Change my picture? What the hell are you talking about?

          144. DGJC says

            Penn State? Isn’t that where that heterosexual coach molested all those boys?

          145. My2PenneysWorth says

            What is it with you homosexuals and your interest in pedophiles one or a few perverts do not make a statistical fact they are anomalies he was caught I wonder if you will ever be.

          146. DGJC says

            Protecting children should be everyone’s business. You heterosexuals think you can get away with molesting boys and blaming gays for it. Think again.

          147. My2PenneysWorth says

            here we can agree partially
            however it is you who keeps harping on the heterosexual versus the homosexual to me a pedophile is a pedophile and should be in prison for life

          148. DGJC says

            The majority of perpetrators of sexual violence are men. Studies of sexual assault against children and young adolescents report that more than 97% of perpetrators were male. Despite popular belief, most male perpetrators identify themselves as heterosexual and often have consensual sexual relationships with women. One study notes that 98% of male perpetrators self-identify as heterosexual. Source: Male Survivors of Sexual Violence, state of Michigan

          149. My2PenneysWorth says

            again a pedophile is a pedophile makes no difference to me

          150. DGJC says

            There is a group known as Virtuous Pedophiles who are attracted to children and don’t act on it:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_Pedophiles

            Again: most men who molest boys are not pedophiles, they are heterosexual.

          151. joe says

            nope they are like you mentally unbalanced

          152. DGJC says

            Heterosexual males are mentally disturbed. 100 percent of mass shooter are heterosexual males.

          153. joe says

            well they are male like you we do not call that a man you are certainly not a man you are some sort of mutant spiecies

          154. DGJC says

            I’m more of man than any heterosexual male I know. I don’t abuse women nor molesr children nor go on mass shootings. Own it

          155. DGJC says

            Most pedophiles don’t molest children and most men who molest children are heterosexual:
            There are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because “he often finds adults of either sex repulsive” and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may “regress” to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Researchers have found no regressed molesters who were exclusively homosexual in their adult relationships.

          156. My2PenneysWorth says

            Are you a closet pedophile? you seem to be really hung up on pedophilia when this is a discussion about concealed carry and the second amendment.
            have you seen a therapist about this maybe you should

          157. DGJC says

            We all should be hung up on men who molest boys and girls and those heterosexual males should be behind bars.

          158. joe says

            wrong liar

          159. DGJC says

            You’re the liar

          160. joe says

            FACT most child molestors are gay

          161. DGJC says

            Fact: 98 percent of child molestrs are heterosexual males

          162. joe says

            nope they are deviants like you that is a fact

          163. DGJC says

            Sure

          164. joe says

            he is a liar he is none of that it is all made up all he is in fact is a sick little man that needs professional help that is not even his real picture it is one he plucked off the internet. Try not to pay too much attention to him it only feeds his illness.

          165. My2PenneysWorth says

            don’t know much about it will take your word for it
            However I agree with you that he is mentally ill

          166. Charlie says

            Since you did not answer Joe’s question on the title of one of your books . Perhaps you would open up on the substance written with in the pages of these books .
            You supposedly have acquired a PhD does this make you immune from being insane ?

          167. DGJC says

            Yes I’m not insane. I don’t reveal my identity to deranged heterosexuals on the Internet. I’ve been stalked more than once by crazy heterosexuals. No thanks. And stop shooting yo our nightclubs. Sickos!

          168. Tired... says

            I doubt that the Orlando shooter was a regular on this site. However it appears that his worldview fueled his hate and his hate drove him to murder. Atheist/deist sometimes there isn’t a meaningful difference.

          169. Charlie says

            Personally don’t care what you do sexually . However do care about Our Foundation of all of Our Laws Our Constitution and Our Bill of Natural (God given not government given) Rights .
            You surely like to stereotype people . All heterosexuals are not deranged just as all homosexuals are not deranged , Just as all liberals are not smarter than conservatives or vise versa .
            The only humans that murder other humans are insane . Therefore using the insanity plea backed up by let’s just say “mental professionals” is just as insane .
            Fully agree with the “Sickos ” but not just in reference to night clubs all public soft target events or places your comment fits .

          170. DGJC says

            God doesn’t exist so he /she can’t give you anything. It is beyond dispute that mass shootings are generally caused by religious beliefs. Religion is the biggest enemy to society that we face today.

          171. Charlie says

            Personally disagree about God . Misconstrued religious believes have been the cause of many wars threw out history . Only false religion believes are dangerous .

          172. DGJC says

            All religions are false. No exceptions. They are manmade/

          173. joe says

            aaaah aaaah the old you is showing even more, better be careful you are blowing it again your new fake identity is once again in danger.

          174. DGJC says

            Who is the old me? How does one have a fake identity?

          175. joe says

            you have several identities you mentaly disturbed chucklehead you are sick you need help this is an obsession for you.

          176. DGJC says

            I have but one identity, retard.

          177. joe says

            fraud , now many more times do I have to expose you before you change your name and photo again little man.

          178. DGJC says

            I’m a bigger man than you, princess.

          179. DGJC says

            Thanks for showing us that heterosexual males are immature, violent and mentally ill. You proved this in Orlando.

          180. Tired... says

            Education doesn’t rule out insanity; they are not mutually exclusive.

          181. DGJC says

            Sure

          182. joe says

            liar wow you really are delusional come in here and try to make yourself sound important ha ha ha it is easy to pick out the liars little man

          183. DGJC says

            Can’t even write a complete sentence. Loser much?

          184. joe says

            Yet you could not afford healthcare wow all your books must have been failures and the universities must have hired you to teach advance basket weaving. FRAUD , EXPOSED YET AGAIN!!!

          185. DGJC says

            Idiot believe in paying for health care out of pocket. The government should pay.

          186. Charlie says

            More humans are killed with hammers , fists then are killed with guns . Do you want hammers and human hands outlawed ? Almost anything can be turned into a weapon that is capable of killing if so desired . The only physical object that kills another human is just that another human .

          187. DGJC says

            Stupid argument. Guns exist for one purpose. Hammers and fists are not designed to kill.
            Thanks for proving the veracity of this story:

            http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html

          188. Charlie says

            Ignorant statement “Guns exist for one purpose “. There are all sorts of sporting shooting events all around our nation with no killings. The semi automatic guns have been around since the late 1800’s these guns are great for sport shooting and hunting. Hammers and fists actually are used more frequently to murder humans than guns . Gun violence has been decreasing for decades this is factual not a study .
            You have once again proved that you are a liberal . You might have plenty of knowledge but the knowledge is skewed .

          189. DGJC says

            Gun violence is increasing

          190. Charlie says

            Only in “Gun free zones ” and other soft targets . After all even insane humans know that there would be no notoriety , publicity if said insane human went into area of armed citizens with intent to do mass murder . Therefore this type of human goes to places where nobody can defend themselves to commit the heinous crime of murder .
            If all of your information you acquire comes from articles like the one you sent to me then I completely understand your stereotyping .

          191. joe says

            nope wrong again it is decreasing clearly you have no facts just like all lunatic left wing pansies

          192. DGJC says

            Retard

          193. joe says

            MORON

          194. DGJC says

            Moron

          195. wonduh says

            Just wondering if you drive a car or are you gay? Talk about dangerous!

          196. DGJC says

            Cars are used for another purpose other than killing people. Guns exist for one purpose and it’s not transportation. Heterosexual men are far more dangerous to children:

            The truth is the vast majority of pedophiles and child molesters are in fact, heterosexual males. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction of an adult to a child. Homosexuality is the sexual attraction of an adult to an adult of the same gender.
            Sex abuse crimes are a major problem and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of sex abuse criminals are heterosexual males.
            Dr. William C. Holmes, Assistant Professor of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, authored a study in the December 1998 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association that indicated that 98 percent of all male perpetrators who had sexually abused boys were identified in their families and communities as heterosexual.
            Researcher Carole Jenny found, in a 1994 study, that “a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner is 100 times greater than by someone who might be identified as homosexual.” Of the 93,000 sexually abused kids in the US in 1999 (the last year of available statistics), half of the children were sexually abused by their parents (Sandusky), while other relatives committed 18 percent of the offenses.
            In other words, sexual orientation isn’t a factor in determining child sexual abuse.
            The research is clear that the sexual orientation of an adult is not a factor in the analysis of child abuse. The American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and the Child Welfare League of America all have policy statements stating there is no correlation between homosexuality and child abuse.

          197. wonduh says

            Really? You’re still a sick.chick. Just an opinion.

          198. DGJC says

            Nope.

            WHY ARE MALE HOMOSEXUALS CALLED “GAY?”
            Homosexuality is a biological gift:
            1 homosexual males have larger brains:
            http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1815538,00.html
            2 homosexual men have higher cognitive functions, superior spatial memory and verbal skills:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
            3 homosexual men earn more money and have more education than heterosexual men:
            http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/01/gay-couples-more-educated-higher-income-than-heterosexual-couples
            4 homosexual men have better sex more often
            (no link required for that one!)
            5 homosexual men have larger pen ises than straight men per capita
            http://www.salon.com/1999/11/04/size

            Anyway you slice it, straight men come up “short” when compared with gay men. That’s why they are unhappy, and why 1 in 4 women is abused and 1 in 5 women is raped. 100 percent of mass shooters are heterosexual males, and 98 percent of child molesters, including those that molest boys, are heterosexual males. Do the math, people: straight men are very unhappy people. That’s why heterosexual men aren’t gay.

          199. DGJC says

            You’re still a mentally defective heterosexual male, so….

          200. wonduh says

            Damn, I hope I’m not in your clan.

          201. DGJC says

            Me too.

          202. wonduh says

            Fortunately, people are waking up to you liberal college teachers. And just how will you talk your way out of those who come to get you. Crying won’t help and your degrees won’t either. You are really flocked aren’t you.

          203. DGJC says

            No, the country is swinging left ideologically and it’s happening without our influence. I do not mention politics to my students at the university. It’s not appropriate. Especially since it’s a Catholic university!!

          204. Tired... says

            Millions of Chinese, Russian, and Cambodian dead, to name a few statist countries, would suggest that your argument is spurious.

            Perhaps we can agree to an amicable divorce and divide the country accordingly. That way you, and those who think like you, can live in a world of your own creation while those who disagree can live in theirs.

          205. DGJC says

            Only problem is: your atheist mass murder theory has been proven to be false. More have died in the name of religions than atheism.

            https://michaelsherlockauthor.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/the-atheist-atrocities-fallacy-hitler-stalin-pol-pot-in-memory-of-christopher-hitchens/

          206. Tired... says

            What on earth are you talking about? Who said anything about being atheist or juxtaposing statism against religion? This is about the use of gun control by the ruling class, regardless of their faith, to impose their will on others.

            I would also like to note that your link is to a blog; not really something that a Ph.D. should be using to support their point.

          207. DGJC says

            Guns should be eliminated from society. I do not think police should have them. Guns are immoral.

          208. Tired... says

            While you are entitled to your opinion, we disagree. History is replete with abuse by the powerful foisted upon the weak through the use of force. Guns are amoral; only people can be immoral.