Ban the Box: The Left’s Latest Lunacy

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President Obama this week announced another one of his piping hot, fresh-out-of-the-oven executive orders, this one pertaining to a growing movement to “ban the box” on job applications. The box in question, if you’re not aware, is the one that asks applicants if they have ever been convicted of a felony. Several states and several prominent corporations have already implemented the ban, and now, by decree of Obama, many federal agencies will be compelled to do the same.

“We’ve got to make sure that people who’ve paid their debt to society can earn a second chance,” Obama said in a speech at Rutgers University Monday. “We can’t have the criminal justice system carrying the entire load of society’s ills.”

You know, it’s interesting that he would pull this move during an election cycle. It gives us a chance to ponder the wisdom of banning the box from a different perspective. What would be the general sentiment of the public if Obama proposed hiding a candidate’s criminal history until a week before the election? How do you think that might go over?

Discrimination laws are already suspect, but at least they’re generally centered around things people have no control over – sex, race, age, etc. Now we’re gradually easing into a new era where discrimination laws are there to shield you from your own bad choices. One can only assume that we’re on our way to eliminating the hiring process altogether. The government will simply assign each American a job, and companies will just have to make do with whatever they get.

Obama’s executive action only applies to the federal government, but that’s always how it starts. They say the “slippery slope” argument is a logical fallacy, but when you’re talking about Democrats, it’s a time-tested fact. It’s in their name: progressives! If they ever found a stopping place, they would have to abandon their whole identity.

Obama’s idea of social justice is as wrongheaded as his idea of foreign affairs. He’s like a doctor who keeps prescribing his patient pain meds for a chronic headache, oblivious to the rather large hatchet embedded in his skull. Too many minorities in prison? Let ’em out! They keep getting arrested? Decriminalize whatever it is that they’re doing! They can’t get jobs? Forbid employers from asking about their record!

This is why it’s so depressing to see conservative writers complain about how unwilling Republican lawmakers are to compromise. Why would you ever compromise with a philosophy so obviously dangerous? Conservatism, in its purest form, is simply another word for common sense. You don’t compromise with someone who’s trying to choke the life out of your country.

1,163 Comments
  1. MAHB001 says

    This would be a payback to 0bama’s buddy Bill Ayers, whom not only does not want people to know he is a felon, but ultimately wants the right to vote again.

    Imagine all the votes 0bama could buy by letting people out of jail..

    1. FreedomTrainUSA says

      As for Ayers….In Chicago all Vote….Including Felons…Illegal Criminals and Dead People..

      1. MAHB001 says

        I forgot about that…

        1. FreedomTrainUSA says

          IN Chicago they the D****RATS have been DIGGING UP VOTES for many Decades…

          1. robo says

            Yeah, but since the Republicans haven’t figured out where there voting place is, it makes no difference. A dope is still a dope. A shame!

          2. OldHighlandGuyOne says

            That is because we Republicans vote absentee. That way we get our vote in much earlier.

          3. MAHB001 says

            Be careful with that absentee voting… The Dems that count the votes do not count the mail in ballots in CA until the end… If an election is called early, the mail in ballots are not counted….

            For instance, the Democrat media called CA to go to 0bama about 10 seconds after the polls had closed in CA…. Millions of mail in ballots were not counted.

          4. Brenda says

            CA is not the only state not counting mail in ballots. Remember when WA refused to count the military ballots over late returns. FL closed the polls leaving the even though there was still an hour left in the FL panhandle. There are many inconsistencies in the way votes are counted or not counted.

          5. jaybird says

            People need to monitor their polling place and protest if they do not follow the rules,We the people have been neglect in our monitoring of our elections.

          6. MAHB001 says

            To tell you the truth, I think it has gone nationwide… As the saying goes, where CA goes other states follow.

            I now believe the entire voting process is rigged. None of our votes, both Democrat and Republican are being counted. They are following Stalin’s lead…

            “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
            —Joseph Stalin

          7. charles17121 says

            How about all the Military Votes that were lost and not counted in 2008 and again in 2012 ? If truth be known , Mitt Romney won in 2012 if all the dead people did not vote and the Military votes were counted .

          8. MAHB001 says

            The fix is on, we need to do something about it…..

            I am starting with the media at: http://www.madashellboycott.com

            If we can stop the propaganda, maybe the moral majority will wake up.

          9. mallen11 says

            I wonder if they are even opened. I will go in person to vote even if they say my vote isn’t counted. However, I know that homebound people can’t get out to vote and absentee voting is the best they can do.

          10. Jarhead says

            Most do NOT vote because the GOP was killed by the RNC…..and see only one political party……

          11. jaybird says

            Your postings show who the real dope.

          12. muskat antonopolis says

            little boy sitting on the curb in Chicago crying…..older buy says “why you crying?”
            the crying boys says my daddy died two years ago…..older boy says that’s too bad..but why you crying now..its been two years?…the crying boy said….he came to town
            yesterday to vote and he didn’t even stop to see me…….

          13. Done for says

            What a sad joke,

          14. FreedomTrainUSA says

            That is Cute…I Like it…

          15. MAHB001 says

            Here in CA the Demorats no longer count the votes…. The Demorats control the Media, the Demorats control the Unions, the Demorats control the Government, the Demorats count the votes….

            “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
            —-Joseph Stalin

            Since the Demorats count the votes, it really doesn’t matter what the people vote in or don’t vote in. So this is how it works.
            The Demorat media calls it close.
            The people vote.
            The Demorats play Rock, paper, scissors to pick what wins. or if it is a TAX it wins automatically.
            The Demorat media announces the TAX increase and in the South blame it on the North, and in the North blame it on the South… Their chosen candidates win by a margin of 52% to 48%…
            Nobody questions, the results, and the Demorats burn the votes without even counting them.

          16. jaybird says

            CA people need to find out how to be a vote counter. I think I am going to call my registrar’s office and find out and if I can set up a table outside of the voting place to distribute information or get petitions signed?

          17. Laddyboy says

            jaybird: After looking at some of the “voters” bringing in BOXES FULL of votes and stuffing them into the slot, Observers MUST be REQUIRED at all polling sites.

          18. ipsd48 says

            Or you can contact ‘True the Vote’ and volunteer to check voter registrations

          19. mallen11 says

            Good idea!!!

          20. MAHB001 says

            You are correct, but don’t ask the registrar’s office, that is the source of the corruption…

          21. jaybird says

            I am in a small town and I think it is OK, I don’t live in a state that is liberal, the only reason that we have a Demorat Gov. is because a lot of gov. workers live in the northern part of the state bordering Wash. DC.

          22. Laddyboy says

            MAHB001: This is why I keep saying the votes need to be on a paper ballot. ‘g.soros’ or the “counters” can change any electronic vote to anything they want after they receive the electronic votes. When the votes are on paper with “the box” shaded in they can be recounted, if need be, the dead, multiple votes and illegal votes can be thrown out.

          23. mallen11 says

            My voting district in Northern CA has paper marking ballots and we have to show our ID. I will still vote even if it is not counted; it is my responsibility as a good citizen.

          24. jaybird says

            Mine had paper ballots this time, can’t remember the last time that happened. Needs to be made permanent. Always have had to show ID for a long time in VA.

          25. Laddyboy says

            My Grandfather taught all of us that it is OUR RESPONSIBILITY to understand what is happening in OUR government and then OUR DUTY to vote accordingly.
            Here in the “Free State” of Maryland, our votes are registered via computers. I complain every year. I complain to the State Representatives and to the Governor. I heard rumors that Maryland will go back to the paper ballot. I hope, I hope!

          26. mallen11 says

            What a great lesson your grandfather gave his entire family. I hope all states will go to the paper ballot and if it takes several days to count the votes then so be it. It is so sad that CA often doesn’t get counted because the “votes” are in but I suppose most vote demoRat anyway. Not me — I have actually switched from GOP to American Independent Party and I make sure I vote for the right person. I am tired of the GOP accepting what the left says to do.

          27. MAHB001 says

            I think we need to dip our fingers in ink… 🙂 That system is far less corrupt than what CA has.

          28. FreedomTrainUSA says

            Well stated and VERY TRUE…

          29. MAHB001 says

            Thank you.

          30. Jarhead says

            LBJ became a Senator due to dead voters way back when…..

          31. MAHB001 says

            It is worse now… The MEDIA has dropped its role as a watchdog. They now pump propaganda into the people to cover up the crimes of those in office.

          32. Done for says

            Yes he did I remember.

          33. FreedomTrainUSA says

            So they were digging up DEAD BODIES to vote in Texas too…Back then TX was a very Corrupt State…And Lame Brain Johnson was leading the Corruption…along with a large group that included the CON MAN Billy Sol-estes…and many more of LBJ’s Criminal Cartel…His Ultimate act was the planning and the MURDER of JFK….

        2. robo says

          You forget about a lot of things. Did you put your underwear on this morning?

      2. robo says

        Even Freedom TrainUSA gets to vote, but he doesn’t know where his voting place is. Remarkable!

        1. FreedomTrainUSA says

          What ROCK did you just DRAG your ROTTING CORPSE out from…I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE MY VOTING PLACE IS….

      3. Jarhead says

        And as many times as possible……REMEMBER:
        “You will NOT BE turned away if you do NOT have PROPER identification”!

        1. FreedomTrainUSA says

          Those they did up are the ZOMBIE VOTERS…So they do not need ID’s…

      4. Done for says

        Yeah probably animals too.

    2. robo says

      Imagine what MAHBOO1 could do if he got past the 6th grade. I do appreciate the fact that he is still trying. He’s failed it 3 years in a row. Poor boy! Can’t add 3 plus 3. But, he’s still trying—I do give him credit for that.

      1. Michael Dennewitz says

        Must be another damned socialist!! Where are you asswipes bred at??

        1. Beeotchstewie says

          prison conjugal visits.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Perhaps that is why 0bama is letting them out…. Doing his peeps a fav…

          2. Beeotchstewie says

            Gotta give them all the room to destroy they need.

          3. robo says

            No, we are trying to help queer boys like you.

          4. jaybird says

            Keep posting more people will find out what a real jerk you are.

        2. robo says

          Not where you breed, which is somewhere near a public toilet.

      2. MAHB001 says

        I know you are but what am I?
        Your insults just show how stupid you are.

      3. MAHB001 says

        hey troll, you got anything other than insults?

    3. Beeotchstewie says

      You mean has bought.

    4. Ddenney1 says

      Aries wants the department of education!!!! Would that be special???

    5. jaybird says

      I think he now wants to be head of the Education Dept since Arne Duncan has quit. He can teach the children how to protest against the government by bombing buildings and injuring citizens/police officers.

    6. ipsd48 says

      Bill Ayers never lost his vote as he was never convicted. FBI misconduct got the case thrown out.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Guilty as Hell, free as a bird….

  2. Cotton says

    “They can’t get jobs? Forbid employers from asking about their record!”
    I wonder what the idiot that wrote this article could come up with for an alternative besides never give them a job, ever, or keep all criminals in prison, forever.
    “Any moron can make it through prison. You’re not really punished until you get out and can’t get a decent job because of your record or even rent a decent apartment because they won’t rent to people with a record. It’s a hell of a price to pay, and it sticks with you forever.”
    Not letting them get jobs is the exact opposite of preventing crime. And then people complain when we do not keep these felons in prison that go back since they have nothing they can do. Every felony in the US is a life sentence!

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    2. 1American1st says

      Maybe those CRIMINALS should consider the consequences of their actions BEFORE committing felonies.

      1. Cotton says

        You are ignoring the point, felonies are a lifetime sentence, and those that get them are severely handicapped for the rest of their lives no matter how hard they try to change their ways. We are encouraging them to commit more felonies by handicapping them. To blame them and keep pushing them down would only cause more crime in our country.

        1. 1American1st says

          YOU are ignoring the point, AH. Young people should be learning a lesson from the felons who destroy their lives because they commit crimes.
          I call BS on your post. YOU & Obama want to reward felons. DOUBLE BS.

          ARE YOU A FELON? OUT OF PRISON?

          1. Cotton says

            Still ignoring the point, the felons that destroyed their lives, are more likely to commit crimes again because of the handicap of being a felon, no matter if they are changed or not, they are still more likely to commit crime once again. What do you not get about that?

          2. 1American1st says

            YOU are ignoring the point! DON’T COMMIT CRIMES! PERIOD!
            YOU also ignored my question, “Are you a felon”?

          3. Cotton says

            I shouldn’t even have to answer that question, but no. Also you are STILL ignoring my point, telling people not commit crimes does not stop all of them from doing crimes. You must be one of those crazy wingnuts with no logic or ability to think!

          4. 1American1st says

            OBVIOUSLY, I have more logic than YOU!

            Don’t do the crime & you won’t do the time & you won’t have a criminal record.

            You probably think it’s a good idea to release Illegal Alien criminals from jail, back onto America’s streets, too, since you are obviously a Left Wing Lunatic.

          5. Cotton says

            Whatever you say, wingnut.

    3. Dick says

      How would like your babysitter to be a convicted child molester? Your banker to be a bank robber? The care nurse at your parent’s nursing home to be a serial killer? I’m sure your would sleep well at night.

      1. Cotton says

        As far as I am concerned as long as they are doing the job right it does not matter. Those are some pretty funny examples though, even if they are a bit far-fetched.

  3. Jesustheonlyway says

    BAD decision!!

    1. MAHB001 says

      That is 0bama’s legacy.

    2. gonzales27 says

      Has he ever made a good one?

  4. Surly Curmudgen says

    liberal progressives are of the species ignoramus giganticus.

    1. robo says

      Republicans are those who just couldn’t make it to the 5th grade. SAD!!!!!

  5. Ray Crawley says

    As if we don’t have enough criminals in Federal Government already.

    1. john says

      Ain’t that the truth…

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        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS RITA !!

          1. muskat antonopolis says

            oh Michael…why cannot you accept the opinions of those with whom you do not
            agree and go on …that is the essence of our Nation…a multitude of beliefs..some
            oppose….some agree…..yet all are equal that do not call for the destruction of
            our Nation (islam)….you have such intelligence…and such passion for your
            Nation…use it WELL……. best to you…..

        2. guest says

          FLAGGED. TAKE YOUR PROPAGANDA ELSEWHERE! DISCUS, WHERE ARE YOU?

          1. gonzales27 says

            Asleep at the wheel.

        3. joe says

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        4. real talk 1 says

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    2. FreedomTrainUSA says

      If we arrested an sent all the Criminals in the DC CESSPOOL to Prison….the place would be a GHOST TOWN…Actually that would be a Great Idea….To Change the Culture of the DC CESSPOOL…

      1. Michael Dennewitz says

        But that will never happen. NOTHING is going to ever happen. WE THE SHEEPLE are too comfy, just sitting on our dead asses and watching our once blessed country be destroyed, piece by piece! So long America!! :-((

        1. OldHighlandGuyOne says

          I agree!

          1. Croco Dile says

            People are delusional.
            Not capable to make decisions in their own self-interest.

          2. AKLady says

            Exactly

        2. cvxxx says

          We still can vote. And vote wisely. We can still contact our representatives. That is our responsibility.

          1. jaybird says

            It is also your responsibility to investigate things before you call your representatives.

          2. cvxxx says

            Very true

          3. Yakkity yak says

            Research and think about everything you hear. Politicians are far less trustworthy than used car salesmen. But the worst is putting ideology ahead of facts and conditions. All that means is that you are letting others do your thinking for you.

          4. Done for says

            If we ever have one again.

          5. Croco Dile says

            If you’ve ever called your congressman or protested at some capitol building, maybe you need to take a moment to know your enemy.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auf1rehiA-4

          6. jaybird says

            I think the RNC is beginning to get the message that we the people don’t like what they have been doing because of what the polls show where the non politicians are leading in the polls. We also got Boehner out, MacCarthy backed out as Speaker.

            More people need to stand together to let them know that we will work to get them out of office. I don’t belong to the Tea Party but I think I might call the one in Culpeper, VA to ask how they got Eric Canter out and replace him with Dave Brat. We need to get the 2 Demorat Senators out in Virginia. They seem to know what it takes to get them out. The one in Fredericksburg does not seem to be very active.

          7. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I’ve called AND e-mailed Barbara BOXCAR and only received a packaged reply by a minion. If I had included a check, MAYBE personal response by her cankled azz..

        3. jaybird says

          A lot of people in America are Sheeple but not me, I am doing everything that I can to change things. How may have contacted their representatives or pushed for a bill to be voted on or against, how many called all the members of the Freedom Caucus Committee (30+) members and the Rules Committee members to get Boehner out? How many do not look up information they see posted but ask the poster for more info? Well they are the sheep and don’t care. Are any of you trying to find out everything you can on the Presidential Candidates??

          1. mallen11 says

            You left out the most important thing to do: encourage everyone to turn back to God so He can heal our land; man alone cannot do it.
            Psalm 28:5 Because they regard not the works of the Lord, nor the operation of his hands, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.
            2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by MY name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked (rejection of God’s) ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and WILL HEAL THEIR LAND. [This principle applies to all times]
            II Peter 3:18… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.
            Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

          2. Yakkity yak says

            The founding fathers explicitly separated church and state. How does one support religion in government and the constitution?

          3. Fred says

            The First Amendment says no religion will be preferred over another-nothing about separation of Church and State, or prohibition of religion from the State.

          4. Yakkity yak says

            No religion will be preferred over any other means church and state will remain separate. I don’t see any other way to interpret that.

          5. Linda Shelton says

            There is now a church of state, even though it has not been published. it is called Islam and being pushed on us everywhere.

          6. Yakkity yak says

            Islam is like any other religion. People will push as much as they can to achieve their goals. That is exactly why the founders kept church and state separate. That is also the reason most of the early colonists came to this new land; they were fleeing christian persecution in Europe.

          7. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Religious rule is a dictatorship with laws..Sharia Law?

          8. AKLady says

            You are terribly mistaken.
            Islam is not the problem, by any means.
            However, the propaganda you have been brainwashed with serves our masters very well keeps you from seeing the truth.
            .
            .
            Government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations

          9. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Is your real name Valery Jarret??

          10. AKLady says

            Publish that American ignorance and bigotry for the world to see.

          11. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “In a surprise weekend vote, the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. The tough new law, slated to go into effect January 1st, addresses secular law including crime, politics and economics as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, fasting, prayer, diet and hygiene.

            The new law could see citizens stoned for adultery or having a limb
            amputated for theft. Lesser offenses, such as drinking alcohol or
            abortion, could result in flogging and/or caning. In addition, the law
            imposes harsh laws with regards to women and allows for child marriage” – See more at: http://nationalreport.net/city-michigan-first-fully-implement-sharia-law/#sthash.vDIPiBL6.dpuf

          12. AKLady says

            You missed the part at the top of your so-called news flash: “Posted about 2 years ago”
            The article is fiction.

          13. AKLady says

            Isn’t American bigotry and ignorance beautiful to behold?

          14. AKLady says

            LOL

          15. OSAMA OBAMA says

            SFO and Orlando airports used tax money to install muslime prayer rooms…THAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?

          16. Yakkity yak says

            I’m not familiar with that particular situation so i can’t comment on it. But now that some politicians are mixing religion and politics they’ll surely find a way to connect it to the opposite party. The founders are probably rolling over in their graves about now.

          17. AKLady says

            The airport is a business, not a government.
            That airport has a chapel for Christians.
            WHY ARE YOU NOT YELLING ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN CHAPEL?

          18. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “The airport is a business, not a government.” Really libTURD stooge? “SFO is owned and policed by the City and County of San Francisco”

          19. AKLady says

            It is still a business. A for-profit business.
            Every store, etc. in that facility pays rent.
            Every airlines pays multiple fees to ise the airport.
            Is it your opinion that governments cannot operate businesses?

          20. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “Is it your opinion that governments cannot operate businesses?” Absolutely!! Hence 19 trillion $ in debt and counting!

          21. AKLady says

            Baby boy does not have the slightest idea as to how his government works.
            It is not the “government”, it is the ignorsnt people you elect to represent you.
            I guess it is too much to expect that they might be smarter and better educated than you are.

          22. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “It is not the “government”, it is the ignorsnt people you elect to represent you.”…..I didn’t elect the ignorsnt, community organizer dolt, YOU slugs did!

          23. AKLady says

            Keep those childish insults coming.

          24. ward says

            Because the U.S. is founded “In GOD We Trust” & ” One Nation Under God “not a murdering muslim cult of allahs koran from hell that you protect and do not realize that islam is the enemy dictatorship with the muslim’s stench to dictate the world !

          25. AKLady says

            The U.S. Connstitution does not identify any GOD by name.
            ALLAH is the God of Abraham — the God of Muslims, Jews and Chrsitians.

            ALLAH is the WORD for God the God we write with a capital “G”.

            It is the Arabic word for “The One God”.

            Foolish, foolish man.

            Americasn ignorance and bigotry on display for the world to see.
            Oh, and by the way, the Founding Fathers were miostly Unitarians, Diests and Agnostics. — Not Christians.

          26. muskat antonopolis says

            you remind me of the obstinacy of ex Pres. Bill .Clinton….”it all depends on what
            is means” …def. of “church”..a building for holding religious services, especially
            one for Christian services…..def. of “state”….a group of people united under one government, nation also, any of the political units that form a federal govt., as in
            the United States…and now yakkity yak, if you disagree with this, then you
            should take it up with the publishers of Webster*s dictionary……

          27. Yakkity yak says

            I am not an atheist, although I don’t see that as being anybody’s business. However I am completely aware that democracy and religion are not compatible as partners in the governing process. I don’t know what you didn’t understand about my post. I just assumed that everyone on here had sufficient comprehension skills to understand that State meant government and church meant religion. I certainly didn’t attempt to deceive anyone. These posts would be incredibly long if we had to explain everything on a second grade level.

          28. AKLady says

            Amen.
            Exactly.

          29. AKLady says

            Jewish Law?

            Catholic Law?

            Mormon Law? …

            They all coexist in America.
            America is not now, nor has it ever been a Christian nation.

          30. muskat antonopolis says

            well hello AKLady…weather setting in up there?…. hope that you have enough firewood and a good heavy parka…snowshoes?…use them? wx here in 70*s
            haha should have stayed so of the m/d line…..SORRRRRY…I cannot export wx
            to your area …haha…I used to live in Maine…wx got so cold it would burst the
            car batteries and engine blocks if the freeze plugs failed to work…..Well, if you
            do not consider the multiple religions of the NA*s, this Nation WAS begun as a
            Christian program of economics and development…..Plymouth Co. investors from the mother land, the old sod ….investing in a capitol venture to the new world..
            would it work?…the serfs. the hirelings religion was Christian and on that they
            depended more than the relief ships from England….Frances advancements
            into the new world, was Catholic based…Christian religion…..the Spanish to
            the South though brutal was for souls and oro…..the Jesuits were there for the
            baptisim of souls and salvation….our founding fathers of whom some were
            atheist….but the majority Christian, believed that God was the source of our
            strength and survival in the westward movement and against our enemies….
            those who went into the forests of the early 1700*s to build a home and raise their
            children although often called “forlorned”, depended on the Christian God to
            sustain and protect them…Not Christian Nation….no….incorrect in my opinion
            and understanding…but, its ok if you do not think so…I FORGIVE you…haha…

          31. AKLady says

            Let me educate you on climate change.
            It is after 11 PM and our temps are still above freezing.
            The one snowfall we have had so far is melting it was a whimpy 2 inches.
            This is looking like another winter during which I will not need my winter coat.
            Ten years ago there would have been 2 to 5 feet of snow on the groun by Thanksgiving. It would not have been totally melted until May.

          32. AKLady says

            Not Christian nation. People came to America to excape religious persecution.

            Spain’s territories were Catholic. They were known to murder those who did not convert.

            The words “Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, Creator, Divine, and God” are never mentioned in the Constitution. The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was “not in any sense founded on the Christian religion”

            Most of the Founders were Deists. They spoke often of God –Nature’s God. Reading their writings, it is clear that if Darwin had lived in that age, the Founders would all have probably been atheists. The Founders were students of the European Enlightenment.

            The Founding Fathers would turn in their graves if the Christian Extremists had their way with this country.
            .

          33. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Why did that muslime tyke knife those four in Merced?? Why have not Jewish, Catholic or Mormons stabbed anybody?

          34. AKLady says

            They do every day, somewhere in this country.

            America’s prisons are filled with people of every religion that exists in this country, and some that only exist elsewhere.

            The U.S. has more prisons than the entire modern world added toogeather, with that total including China and Russia. The U.S. also has more pirsoners.

            America is building more prisons, because they are filled what currently exists beyond their rated capacoty.

            Your ignorance and bigotry is an embassment to all Americans.

          35. talltreetrader says

            Read the US Constitution again and again, until you understand plain American english. There is not one word about separation of church and state.

            The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

            BereadywhenHecomes.com

            Our Us Constitution recognizes the God Given Rights of the people.

          36. Yakkity yak says

            I keep a copy of the constitution on my desk as well as several books and references to the founding fathers. Everyone is guaranteed to worship as they please but they cannot force their beliefs on others. Those god given rights do not include the right to interfere with any others beliefs or disbeliefs. The problem that arises when religion is allowed into government is that the constitution is then overridden. Democracy is majority rule. Religious rule is a dictatorship with laws established by gods law according to the self appointed chosen ones. All the founding fathers were adamant in their attitude towards religion. They have all left countless letters and quotes concerning this subject and Bird Wilson an Episcopalian minister even wrote in a New England newspaper in 1833 lamenting the fact that up until that time, which included our first seven presidents there was not one Christian at least of no more than Unitarian. Are we to believe that the voters who fought the revolution did not understand the principles America was founded on?

          37. Leland P. Turner Jr. says

            1: We are not a “DEMOCRACY”, we are a “REPUBLIC” and until you understand the difference, you will always interpret the CONSTITUTION incorrectly.
            2: You are obviously a “PROGRESSIVE” as you think that having anything to do with Christianity (which our founding fathers used as a basis for our CONSTITUTION) and the Government is somehow wrong.
            3: You should also research Bird Wilson, not just quote something that looks on the out side to fit your narrative. He was also out spoken against the CONSTITUTION!

          38. Yakkity yak says

            We are a democratic republic which everyone who can read understands. In which way does it affect the interpretation of the constitution. Yes I am a progressive as anyone who thinks is. One thing I am not is a liberal or a conservative. I refuse to let someone else do my thinking for me. This nation was not founded on Christianity and that is substantiated in many quotes and letters by the founding fathers. Of course Bird Wilson was against the constitution, he was a preacher and that’s why he lamented the fact that we had had no Christian presidents up until that time. You didn’t contradict anything i said. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are aware that most of the early colonists came to America to escape Christian persecution aren’t you? Freemasonry and the Iroquois confederation were the biggest contributors to the writing of the constitution. Ben Franklin even said Chief Canasatego of the Iroquois nations may have been the greatest of the founding fathers. “We the People” was taken straight from the Iroquois confederation.

          39. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            First of all, pure democracy could never and has never worked, that is the reason the Americans have a Republic and the only other state that can be called a Republic is the Republic of Texas, for unlike the other 49’ers, we too have a Declaration of Independence, for everyone knows what happened at the Alamo, but few know of General Sam Houston’s Texans and that of 2 small Mexican pueblo’s, GOLIAD and SAN JACINTO. We beat the ass of every Mexican solder and became the Nation of Texas in 1836, so we have both standing and precedence. Fully 3/4 of all the nation’s oil and gas comes through the pipelines cui of our Lone Star Republic, and no we are not living under Capitalism, it has been for many years now Socialist.For just as my G Grandmother’s parents own large acres of land in Kiev since the time of Catherine the Great, when Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin, my grandmother, who made furs for the Soviet elites she so despised but had to have those TRAVELING VISAS in order to go to whatever country was holding that meeting at the Furrier’s guild that year where, yes supplies were bought, sold and traded, but more importantly, marriages were bargained for the larges dowry, and even more importantly, what was happening in their own countries This was in the early 1890’s. When my G grandparents heard the an auditor came around once a week, counted their chickens and totaled up the amts. of eggs they had to send back to the cities to feed the hovering masses. My grandmother always told me that,”the butcher makes as much as the doctor!” And God forefend they should eat one of their own chickens for a holiday or a special Hebrew holiday. And no, the phrase (and I do have a BA in Education and another BA in History with a field minor in historical research, the Iroquoians did not even have writing before the white men came. All they had were pictograph in their caverns caverns. “We the people,”can as a direct mention to the tyrannical George III who were taxing without representation, etc. Hell they were not even Americans then, nor did they think consider them as Americans, they were all British subjects and as such knew that if their rebellion didn’t work, they would all hang. So, as the Declaration say, We the People, they were talking about themselves as British subjects, which they were, and were enumerating all of the wrong things done to them. And there was an Indian named Quinta Parker, was an Indian leaders close to the colonists. but they were BRITISH SUBJECTS which means that only one person, that person being Thomas Jefferson, but as Madison was he fathero\\\

          40. AKLady says

            Every modern, developed country has a mixed economy.
            Sadly, America is the only one of those nations which allow people to die — simply becaue they cannot afford to buy health care.

          41. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yup, they were dying in droves! Idiot!!

          42. AKLady says

            They still are.

          43. AKLady says

            Every religious order practices “pure” democracy within their “living” arrangements. Christ and the Apostles practiced “pure” democracy within their group.

          44. Paul Smith says

            Ummm, no. Please define Democracy. My definition is three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for lunch and I know of no religious order (emphasis on the word (order’) that operates that way.

          45. AKLady says

            YOur definition does not fit all occurances.

          46. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            TRAITORTRAITORTRAITORTRAITOR NOW THE ENTIRE CONGRESS KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND NOW 6 OR 7 OF HIS OWN PARTY MEMBERS–DEMOCRATS HAVE JUMPED SHIP AND SAID THEY COULD NO LONGER SUPPORT HIM SINCE THIS HAS COME TO LIFE. I AM A RESEARCHER, I DO NOT PUT ANYTHING OUT THAT I HAVE NOT SOURCED AND RESOURCED AND A LITTLE BIRDIE FROM EUROPE TOLD ME THIS ONE, BUT I HAD ALREADY HEARD THEY HE HAD THE CIA ROGUE PART OF IT TRAINING THEM, DIDN’T SURPRISE ME, JUST COULDN’T VERIFY IT UNTIL NOW. HE HAS BEEN ARMING THEM THIS ENTIRE TIME. i KNEW THAT NO ONE IS LEFT WHEN THE RED CROSS LEAVES, YET THE BENGHAZI 4 WERE LEFT FOR SACRIFICIAL SHEEP FOR ALL KNOW THE ONLY REASON THEY WOULD BE THERE WAS TO ARM BOTH THE REBELS AND THE ASSAD REGIME, WHICH HE KNEW THE SOUND OF RIFLES, THE REBELS WOULD RUN LEAVING THEIR ARMS FOR ISIS, BUT THIS ISN’T EVEN THE BATTER OF THE CAKE. HE WILL BE CHARGED FOR THIS, HE WILL BE WALTZED OUT OF THE MOSQUE HOUSE FOR THIS TIME HE DID SOMETHING SO UNCONSCIONABLE THAT EVEN HIS OWN PARTY(AS DAMNED AS THEY ARE) CANNOT CONTINUE IN GOOD CONSCIENCE. now if they can stomach selling souls and their organs, but can’t stomach this? HE TRAINED ISIS AND GAVE THEM ARMS FOR GOD’S SAKE. NO ONE WILL STAND AND PROTECT HIS AGAINST THIS.

          47. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            TRAITOR; A NATION CAN SURVIVE ITS FOOLS AND EVEN THEIR AMBITIONS BUT NO NATION CAN SURVIVE FROM TREASON FROM WITHIN.—Cicero

            For the traitor appears not as a traitor, but in accents familiar to his citizens, and wears their faces and their arguments. He appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation and works secretly to undermine the pillars of the city, infecting the body politic so that they can no longer exist.–Cicero
            Doesn’t that sound a little familiar to you “folks.” AND ALL OF YOU FOOLS WENT FOR IT. I KNEW IT FROM THE FIRST 2 SPEECHES FOR I HAD HEARD IT ALL BEFORE, TROTSKY, LENIN, HITLER, STALIN, for as a young Hippie Democrat for a free democracy, I read all the books they did, but as a conservative now, I know the enemy well and can unmask a leftist progressive voting democrat within 2 moments of speaking to it. For to fight your enemy you have to know your enemy and I am telling you now, well I knew some, a bunch of school professors at Berkley when I was there in the late 80’s, although more of an Abbie Hoffman hippie I was more into the bands and music.His song and dance has been heard by millions before us, and will be heard long after we are gone. What are the 2 things he wants most from us as citizens???? The two things every dictator, tyrant, despot has to have in order to become a despot?..your health care and especially your guns. For, Hitler would not have been able to do what he did had the citizens been able to defend themselves! IDIOTS. I SWEAR I BELIEVE IT IS A CRIME NOT TO VOTE FOR ALL THE MEN WHO FOUGHT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, BUT I NOW BELIEVE IF YOU ARE NOT A WELL-INFORMED VOTER…STAY HOME…PLEASE DON’T DO US ANY FAVORS. MADISON AND JEFFERSON BOTH SAID THAT AN ARMED CITIZENRY AND AN ARMED MILITIA WITHIN THAT CITIZENRY WILL TOPPLE EVERY KING IN EUROPE, WELL THEY HAVE TYRANTS NOW, BUT HOW DO YOU THINK SADDAM HUSSEIN MADE IF FOR SO LONG? HOW ABOUT NORIEGA, OR THE CUBAN DICTATORS…THEIR CITIZENRY DO NOT HAVE ARMS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES And no one can say he isn’t after our guns for he doesn’t say a word as Detroit–a Progressive held city for over 100 yrs are buying up their citizen’s guns. Now do ya really think a criminal is going to give you his guns?But says not a peep about the 49 or so murders per week. But one large shooting and there stands the tyrant ready to take your only means of protecting yourselves. WELL YOU OTHER 49’ers are out of luck as we here in the REPUBLIC OF TEXAS ARE FINALLY HAVE THE PETITIONS TO PUT IT TO A VOTE FOR WE ARE THE ONLY STATE THAT CAN BE CALLED A REPUBLIC AND WE HAVE STANDING AND PRECEDENCE AS WE WERE THE NATION OF TEXAS IN 1836 BEFORE WE ENTERED INTO THIS “CURSED ALLIANCE.” WE WANT NO PART OF THE NATIONAL SINS OF SELLING PARTS OF BABIES SOUL’S OR GAY MARRIAGE. GOD HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO US AND WE DO NOT WANT HIS PROTECTION OFF OF US. We just went to the polls and just SEALED IN BLOOD OUR RIGHTS TO KEEP ARMS as we already have open carry, but now the proposition said that was passed “citizens of the Republic of Texas have the inalienable right to hunt(what do you hunt with?)fish and harvest wildlife in the name of conservation and in the traditional manner as long as all rules are abided by as no trespass or no shooting off weapons in populated areas.” Yep that about seals it. and never forget our little thing called A DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, KINDA LIKE THE AMERICANS HAVE THAT WE WON AGAINST THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF MEXICO.And as the Constitution says not a word about how to get out, just how to enter…In our Declaration of Independence, it says that “All political power is all times inherent in the citizens of The Republic of Texas who at any time have the inalienable right to alter, reform, or abolish their government in any manner as they may think expedient!” So dumb guy says:”You can’t secede.” WATCH US. And I would be begging your Democratic leaders to build that Keystone for as it stands now, fully 3/4 of all the US’s oil and natural gas comes to you courtesy of pipelines that originate in our Republic! So lets say, well we feel like being nice, so, say a 45% tariff on all of that oil and gas? You wouldn’t be able to drive yourselves to work or to take the kids to school dummies. What a wonderful sky tonight under the Texas sky. The people who come here say what a beautiful moon we have and that you are crazy to sleep in it, but I say you are crazy not to try. And last night is showed off, all the clouds stayed home on purpose, making a great silhouette in the sky. Hell, we couldn’t stand an encore. And all the deer tiptoeing through the brush because they know that man’s not there to dampen the dance. That is how it is on moonlight nights in South Texas. It is just too good to be true. That you, Lord, for making be here in the Republic of Texas. God, it couldn’t get any better than this.

          48. Paul Smith says

            Kathy, if you expect anyone to either read or respect your comments, please learn to STOP YELLING and separate your points into paragraphs. Thanks.

          49. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Sorry, I do that only to emphasize, not to yell, but I will respect your views. Thanks for that comment. P. Kathy Kleiman

          50. ILoveAPBT's says

            If you haven’t noticed he’s a butt hole. He likes being the one who disagrees with everyone else. If it hadn’t been the fact that he picked on you for “yelling” I’m sure he would have found something wrong with somone elses comment 🙂

          51. ILoveAPBT's says

            Ever think for a moment she meant to “yell”? Maybe she was upset and that’s how she meant for it to sound?

          52. AKLady says

            Exactly.
            However, unless you have attended school in New York State, that bit of history was probably not in your test book, or taught in class.

          53. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Nah! They did teach LGBT, fire arm confiscation, global warming, Sharia Law…..LMAO!!

          54. AKLady says

            We are a Republic that practices representstive Democracy: government of the people, by the people, for the people

          55. ROBERT says

            People majority voted no against gay marriage.
            People majority voted no against Obumercare.
            People majority are against illegal aliens, refugees,etc…Supreme forcing their rulings on the people, Obumer forcing migration of illegals from so. america & the refugees from the Middle East, without congress’s approval & the people. Obumer & the Supreme Court enacting laws and forcing demographic changes on our population without any ones approval- Dictatorship while in office!!!! You aklady are ignoring the fact that Obumer is functioning on his own & destroying this country’s population criminally. Get out of here with your leftist liberal socialist agenda,. TRUMP 2016-24.

          56. AKLady says

            Only four states voted no: WI, OK, VA & UT.
            The ACA was never put up for vote in any state,,
            People majority are against illegal aliens, refugees,etc… or so you say.
            You have been wrong on two out of three ..

            You are seriously confused about the way uour government functions.

          57. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “The Supreme Court’s decision today to not hear any of the cases on same-sex marriage means, that “lower court rulings that struck down state marriage laws now will go into effect, forcing the redefinition of marriage in [Indiana, Wisconsin, Virginia, Oklahoma and Utah] and potentially in other states in the 4th, 7th, and 10th circuits.”
            Voters in 31 states voted to define marriage as being between a man and a woman.
            Liberal California voted for that in 2008, and so did red Texas in 2005. From 1998 to 2012—not say, from 1870 to 1890, or some other long-gone time period—34 states voted on defining marriage as being between a man and a woman—and only three voted against it.
            And now the will of the people is being struck down by judge after judge.

          58. AKLady says

            You are incorrect.

            The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled on tjis issue they will not visit the issue a second time. The lower court rulings are already struck down by the U.S.S.C.’s previous rulings in this matter.

            Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel apply.

            Put in simple English for you The doctrines of res judicata and collateral estoppel often come into play when a subsequent case, similar to a case already adjudicated, is filed. The rationale behind the doctrines is that an issue or cause of action fully litigated should not be litigated again. Res judicata is often referred to as “claim preclusion”. Collateral estoppel is often referred to as “issue preclusion”.

          59. OSAMA OBAMA says

            AWWWWWW!! Welfare king! We can’t tell by your posts if your are drunk,

            Dyslexic or just stupid! I guess you mean that the will of the people are negated by 12 thugs, installed by a thug queen , in this case, the fraud punk Ohussein. Funny how libTURD judges differ in their opinions from educated, Constitutional, America loving Justices.

          60. AKLady says

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            You are obviously very blissful.
            Supreme Court Justice is a lifetime appointment.
            Trump can only appoint a Justice if one retires or dies.

          61. Paul Smith says

            I guess that would depend on how badly he wants to nominate a judge or two. Remember The Pelican Brief?

          62. AKLady says

            Cute.
            YOu really should not give people like Osama any ideas.
            He is already filled with ignorance and bigotry.

          63. ROBERT says

            Hypocrite, you were just praising Obumer, your on meds. You have to be on something , your flip flopping all over the place. your a Beotch. Loke you said, and I quote, ” This is just a game for me”. Die already, dust in the wind yourself. TRUMP 2016-24.

          64. AKLady says

            Childish name-calling.
            If you want your opinions respected,
            maybe you should try acting like an adult.

          65. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Have you two spawned any welfare cheating, tax and spend, Big Gubment, illegal alien chillins’ yet?

          66. AKLady says

            American hate, ignorance and bigotry on display for the world to see.
            Yes, “Ugly American” is a title that is becoming more appropriate every day that passes.

          67. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “Supreme Court Justice is a lifetime appointment.”…….judging by their failed performances, we, the people, should DEMAND a change. Then, to protect this once great nation, hope a few of those “scholars” DIE! Uh, Please akc, do join in!

          68. ROBERT says

            Foul Language is because of your stupidity, in extreme cases the a SCJ can be replaced if found to be incompetent, example on drugs, medication that alters ones perception of legal arguments, thoughts etc….This will happen you ignorant Muslime, TRUMP 2016-24.

          69. AKLady says

            Another rightwinger who cannot accept responsibility for their actions.
            Add childish name calling …

            I am so not inpressed.
            Neither is anyone else.

          70. ROBERT says

            Your seriously flawed in knowing what the majority of this country wants. WE the majority don’t want Obumercare & don’t approve calling a communion between gays & lesbo’s a marriage !!! One more disputing word from you is worth a slap in your liberal mental disorder face. I have been noticing that your like the kid in the whole school that’s dissenting, antagonistic, mentions rules that are constantly being broken by this potus, so no other reason but to expell you since getting your butt physically whipped isn’t in your medical insurance expense. Your insane if you think this county likes illegal aliens & forced refugees 18-40 men from Iraq,Syria, Sudan, Somalia, and an ope border with sanctuary cities, I’ll send these refugees to your area. By the way, quit quoting gov’t functions when they aren’t being followed! Stay out of my comments your a big nuisance. By the way,The majority of people here don’t like you anyway ! Trump 2016-24.

          71. AKLady says

            Ignorance.
            Bigotry.
            Hate.

            The President has not violated a single rule.
            You on the other hand, make up rules to suit your hatefilled view of the world.

          72. ROBERT says

            Your judgement of me don’t amount to a hill of beans, your sucking up to Obumer ruins your credibility. I hate Muslimes, & illegal aliens, and its my right not to like anyone. My view of this world is fine, because I know our enemies, so stay blinded up there in AK, while I continue to employ 86-90 people and their families. Your a habitual suck up to this demographic destroyer, Dog eater, changed his name to that of a muslime because he is one, he loves foreigners more than the citizens of this country. He is against cops, never once denouncing the rage against cops. He is a racist jungle bunny , porched monkey in the WH. Hes a liar, and preaches to the Military that Global Warming is America’s greatest enemy. So you aklady GTH, your a POS who is against America & her citizens, because this con POTUS is full of hate for this country, so shut up already sucking up to this done insane muslime monkey. TRUMP 2016-24.

          73. AKLady says

            Ignorance.
            Bigotry.
            Hate.
            You are an embarassment to America

          74. ROBERT says

            Ha, RET. USN, CPO, MBA @ UCLA, 88 Kills. You are a rotten piece of human tissue, pass away MUSLIME, your IP exposes who you really are. You think you can spew this hate you have, and your arrogance, and someone isn’t going to find out more of who you really are? Where your computer is on the IP (Internet Positioning), are you really this ignorant. In fact keep on with your ignorant comments, this whole article, comments, esp yours will be exposed in an article coming up this winter in the Wall Street Journal, titled, “The Real Ideology the left puts out”. So keep on with your hate, it will just justify the reason for the Republicans to take the White House & both Houses of Congress. TRUMP 2016-24.

          75. AKLady says

            M.D., University of Miami, Vietnam Vet, hundreds, if not thousands, of lives saved.
            You are an ignorant, hatefilled religious bigot.

            My IP is in Alaska. I am an Alaskan. I clearly advertise that fact. Why do you believe it is acceptavle to lie?

            I do not play the politics game. Trump has no nonprofit experience. Trump has zero government experience

          76. 1American1st says

            You don’t know anything about America, Commie.

          77. AKLady says

            Chikduish nanecalling.
            Isn’t it beautiful to behold?

          78. ward says

            You finally got your head out & described your daddy bo as a traitor !

          79. AKLady says

            So childish.
            If you want your opinion respected,
            try acting like an adult.

          80. ward says

            Evidently you are the one with the disrespected libtard asinine opinions & that fact is displayed on your “0”like” arrow by peers that dislike all of your asinine posts !

          81. AKLady says

            More infantile spew.
            Why do you think this blog is a popularity contest?

          82. ward says

            Great and very true to fact post that bo is a traitor to the U.S. Patriotic U.S. Citizens & libtards like the AK LaBit are as guilty of treason as bo !

          83. 1American1st says

            The Bergdahl Swap was illegal.

            A judge in Texas stopped his illegal Amnesty for 5,000 ILLEGAL INVADERS.

          84. AKLady says

            Suggest you review the U.S. Cinstitution.

            The Presidential authority is clearly itemized.

            Something you seemed to have missed: A dozen states and twenty-seven police chiefs and sheriffs filed a brief earlier this week supporting Obama’s action.

            Try to remember that states recieve large amouns of federal molney for education and healrh care. Not all of the propaganda being spouted is entirely truthful.

            Why do you want to see American children sent out of the country?

          85. Paul Smith says

            try to remember that that is money stolen from us and it’s high time for that to stop. Leave the money in the States where it belongs and cut the damn strings.

          86. AKLady says

            Your information pool is very limited.
            Suggest that you go to the U.S. Depsartment of Agriculture site, click over to the Food Safety page. From there click over to the page for Recalls and Alerts.
            Then sign up for the daily health alert email. Come back and talk to me after you have received those alters for a couple of weeks.
            That daily news letter is a miniscule part of the FDA’s daily work.

          87. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            You do or are not up on The Republic of Texas’ history, even other states have criticized us for not taking a cent from Obama, not for Healthcare,not for education–which when we voted in the state lottery, all of that money goes to fund our education, we wouldn’t dream of letting the Dept. of Education get near our kids. Are you an idiot? Nothing is ever for free. As Solomon said, there is nothing new under the sun, and how right he was. As a matter of fact, we are so int he black, that when we do get those signatures to secede, we will be the 14 country, just behind Russia and Canada in the nation’s (ours)Gross national product. Oh and something you missed. Have you noticed all of those cop cars with bumper stickers on them that say IN GOD WE TRUST..everyone said, we will sue you, and to them, well there is really no reason to sue, because of another suit that lost and thereby giving our lawmen PRECEDENCE. kinda like what the Republic of Texas has both standing and precedence! And Obama may be walking out of his Mosque House in chains for treason, but this time a major medalled Admiral came out and told God, country and the world how Obama had been shipping weapons to ISIS. Well I had heard that the CIA had trained them, but as I write student papers in my business, I was always wondering why, in the 80’s we were training the Iranians, n the 90’s it was the Irquis and now thd Saudi Arabians, I boycott all Muslim owned and operated businesses, as well as I have 2nd vote on my computer so I know a liberal commie business and I know a conservative business and know wherefore my money goes. But when they need papers, I do not agree with not baking the cakes, etc, if it were me, I would back the most beautiful cake, anywhere, and when they took the first bite I really don’t know who takes the first bite in that instance, but I would have grounded down some chili petines in it and also, it would have cost quadruple of what my normal cakes would have gone for, that is why I charge the Muslims who are training out at Lackland Air Force Base. triple, Hell it is hard writing down to make sure a teacher thinks they actually wrote it when they can barely speak the language, plus, I am Jewish, that should be a good enough reason right there.

            WE TAKE NOT A DIME AND OBAMA HASN’T EVEN PAID US BACK FOR THE PUTTING UP THE CENTRAL AMERICAN KIDS AT THE INVASION OF THE ALIENS. AND WE JUST WENT TO THE POLLS, WE LOWERED PROPERTY TAXES, WE SIGNED IT IN BLOOD INTO OUR CONSTITUTION THAT”ALL TEXANS HAVE THE INALIENABLE RIGHT TO HUNT(what do you hunt with?) FISH AND HARVEST WILDLIFE IN THE TRADITIONAL MANNER FOR CONSERVATION OF WILDLIFE, AS LONG AS THE CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE FOLLOWED: NO TRESPASS LAWS STILL APPLY, AND DO NOT SHOOT OFF YOUR WEAPONS OR HUNTING RIFLES IN POPULATED AREAS! you see we have open carry. And no infringements, so a cop can’t even ask for a registration, unless you are acting the fool. Finally, we are becoming a toll free state as our coffers are running over, so we had also our “Rainy Day Funds” but it never seems to rain ha ha ha. So, we are now building three more lanes out on Hwy 281 and Hwy1604 thanks be to God for around dinner time and in the mornings it is horrible. But, no new taxes., why should we, we are giving back to the citizens. WE DON’T NEED OR WANT OBAMA’S MONEY! HE CAN TAKE IT AND STUFF IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN’T SHINE, OH WELL, HE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE THAT!

          88. AKLady says

            I am very famikiar with Texas History.

            My family made quite a bit of it.

            I am quite familiar with the abject poverty in your state. I have seen the poverty wirh my own eyes. I am also aware of the very minimal assistence the inoverished receive. I’ve witnessed you overcrowded ERs. I am quite familiar with the bigotry.

            Texas tried to secede once before/ You would be wise to remember how that worked out. Given the number of U.S. Military stationed in Texas, secession does not have a snowball’s chance in H E L L.
            Let me know when Texas puts some of those profits from your oil into a fund, whichn they then invest and pay the earnigns to each Texas resident. Oh, that is right, you allowed private companies to take your oil and sell it, and keep all the profit.

          89. OSAMA OBAMA says

            You’d think that welfare queen from alaska would get tired of being pimp slapped! SPOT ON SIR!!

          90. Deby says

            LOL! I think she enjoys it-troll that she is

          91. Chris S. says

            might be true…but scratch the Trump bit…we need someone like Rubio or a close second Cruz ….dream team ticket is Rubio/Cruz in that order

          92. Paul Smith says

            Neither Cruz or Rubio are eligible because their fathers were not US citizens. Please find somebody else that we can all support.

          93. AKLady says

            Birth wirhiin the U.S. or one of its territories provides American citizenshp regardless of the parent’s citizenship.

            The only exception to that law are the children of foreign diplomats assigned to the U.S.

            A child born outside of the U.S. is an American citizen if ONE of his or her parnets are American citixens.

          94. Paul Smith says

            100% correct. What’s your point?

          95. AKLady says

            Cruz is a U.S. Citizen, by birt. His mother is/was a U.S. Cirizen.
            Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. There is no question concerning his citizenship.

          96. Paul Smith says

            Nobody argues re. their citizenship. I believe we have already covered that point.

            They are not natural born citizens. I gave you a link to an article that lays out our position very well. You’re a bright lady, no doubt you can understand it.

          97. AKLady says

            All the primaru law sources routinely interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.

          98. Paul Smith says

            Nominate Rubio, Cruz or Jindal and lose the election.

          99. AKLady says

            Sorry, Paul, you have reached an incorect conclusion.
            Both Cruz and Rubio were Ameeican citizens at birth.

            Rubio was born ikn Miami, Florida – end of argument.
            Cruz’s mother is an American citizen – end of argument.

          100. Paul Smith says

            We disagree and you simply saying so isn’t going to change our minds. We will not vote for what we deem an ineligible nominee and we will lose the general election as a result. Find somebody we can all support please.

          101. Chris S. says

            can’t run if your not eligible…..Rand Paul might be ok….but he needs to tone it down a little…he’s a bit too extreme and isolationist

          102. Paul Smith says

            Obama was ineligible but they allowed him to get away with it. The people must rise up and demand that the Constitution be honored and obeyed.

          103. AKLady says

            Sorry, you are wrong.

            Obama was a natural born citizen.

            He could have been born on Mars, he still would have been a “natrual born” citizen.

            His mother was a U.S. cirizen. One parent is all it takes.

          104. Paul Smith says

            You have said that before yet you have provided no support for your assertion.

            This much I know, if you manage to nominate an ineligible candidate, we will lose the election and live under the socialists for another 4 to 8 years. Choose wisely.

          105. AKLady says

            Do you deny that Obama’s mother was a U.S. Citizen?

            Are you too lazy to look up the data published by the U.S. Government?

            To become a citizen at birth, you must:

            Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States;

            OR

            had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements

            [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship

          106. Paul Smith says

            I deny that his father was and that is what counts.

          107. AKLady says

            No, that law went by the wayside – a long, long time ago.

          108. Paul Smith says

            The Constitution went by the wayside? Are you kidding me?

          109. AKLady says

            Sure is a shame you choose to be embarassed in public.
            You have an Internet connection, why didn’t you look it up?

            The U.S. Constitution, drafted in 1787, does not define citizenship.
            Nothing, whatsoever, nada, zilch … is found in the document.

            The 14th Amendment is the Citizenship Clause. It does not define “natural born citizen”.

            You might want to read it.

          110. Paul Smith says

            We are not discussing citizenship. You seem to be confused. I’d say it is you who should be embarrassed.

          111. AKLady says

            You were discussing Obama’s citizenship.
            You claimed he could not be an American citizen
            because his father was not a citizen.

            Your words: “Paul Smith AKLady • a day ago

            I deny that his father was and that is what counts.”

          112. Paul Smith says

            No, I was discussing Obama’s illegal presidency.

          113. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Well he is outta there now and probably to Gitmo with his buddies are hanging out, why in the world would you let the worst of the worst out unless you are in league with them and even one of his own, now the entire Congress knows of it that all the while he was saying they were “Jr. Varsity/” He was arming them and training them by the rogue elements of the CIA, 5 Democratic Senators walked out in protest of their own dear leader, finally we may just get the justice we all want and that he so richly deserves. His own party, who has cradled him until this. I believe this is his “isis moment?”

          114. AKLady says

            Simply not true.
            No one word of your post is true.
            Don’t they treach Civics and American Government in schools anymore?
            Why do you believe it is accetable to lie?

          115. ward says

            bo wasn’t eligible either and look at the destruction to the U.S. Freedom & Constitutional Rights he has E.O/’d in 6+ years of crimes against the U.S. Citizens while he protects & supports Illegal foreigners & especially his own muslim. islam cults frm a dictatorial tyranny hell … !

          116. Paul Smith says

            We agree, Ward, which is why we will not allow another usurper to occupy the Oval Office.

          117. AKLady says

            John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.
            Do you claim that he is not a natural born American?

          118. Paul Smith says

            I do not know where McCain was born. The Canal Zone was US territory which would make him eligible however his name is not on the roll of children born in the Canal Zone on his birth date which leads me to believe that he was born in the Colon Hospital which was not in the Zone. If that’s the case he is not a natural born citizen.

          119. AKLady says

            You have just clearly identified where your knowledge pool is lacking.
            A child born to an American citizen is a “natural born” America no matter where the actual birth takes place. PERIOD, end of issue.

          120. Paul Smith says

            actually. . .no.

          121. AKLady says

            “To become a citizen at birth, you must:

            Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth.

            [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship

            [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

          122. Paul Smith says

            citizen at birth and natural birth are two different things. In care you’re interested: Natural Born Citizen – A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers: Rick Santorum Is An Article II Natural Born Citizen and Eligible to Be President

          123. AKLady says

            The law has been defined by the Courts.
            Your opinion has no bearing.

          124. Paul Smith says

            The courts have no authority to do that. Not even the SCOTUS or the Congress has the authority to change the Constitution. Nominate Rubio, Cruz or Jindal and lose the election. Choose wisely.

          125. AKLady says

            Legislative (Congress) — makes the law.
            Executive (President/VicePresident) – carries out the law.
            Judicial (evaluates laws) — the federal court system.
            .
            If you want tochange the system, contact your elected representatives and see if they will start a Consitutional Amendment.

          126. AKLady says

            Sorry, the law says you are wrong.
            You have been lied to.
            You choose to believe that lie.
            You can have any opinion you want.
            Mr. Bigot Santorun can also have his opinuon. He is a polititian.
            He says what his voters want to hear.

          127. Paul Smith says

            Actually, I do not believe that it does but I’m more than willing to listen. In the mean time, if you nominate Cruz, Rubio or Jindal, we will lose the election. Choose wisely.

          128. AKLady says

            The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution provides:” All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside….”The important right of citizenship, whether for native-born or naturalized citizens, cannot be divested, whether as punishment for a crime or for any other reason, by the states or the federal government, including their agencies and officials (see also Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253, 87 S. Ct. 1660, 18 L. Ed. 2d 757 [1967]). American citizenship can be relinquished, but it cannot be taken away unless it was procured through Fraud or any other unlawful action.

          129. Paul Smith says

            Also irrelevant.

          130. AKLady says

            In what way?
            Your “irreevant” rubber stamp is overused and meaningless.

            Do you claim Obama’s mother was not an American cititzen?
            If so, prove it.

          131. Paul Smith says

            Obama’s mother’s citizenship does not confer natural born citizenship on her child even if born in the Oval Office.

          132. AKLady says

            Your knowledge of American law is out-of-date.
            Any child who has ONE American parent is a citizen by birth.
            The law is no longer sexist, motherhood confers citizenship.
            Instead of the games, go read the law.

          133. Paul Smith says

            I do not deny that a child born of one US citizen parent or born on foreign soil is a citizen, they are. What they are NOT are ‘natural born citizens’. Whether you like it or not, the law that was written by the constitutional authors re. presidential eligibility has not changed. There is no amendment to the Constitution relating to that. The ONLY question is what was the common understanding of the term ‘natural born citizen at that time and it was a person born on the soil and of citizen parents.

          134. AKLady says

            The Constitution does not define “natural born”. Maybe you should remember that John Jay’s children were not born within the Contiental U.S.

            The phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization.

            The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British common law.

            I suggest you read Smith v. Alabama, 124 U.S. 465, 478 (1888). and enactments of the First Congress. Another source is Wisconsin v. Pelican Ins. Co., 127 U.S. 265, 297 (1888).

            Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

            Just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, the First Congress established that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were U.S. citizens at birth, and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born Citizens.”

            Congress eliminated the differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the recent presidential election were born. Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is a U.S. a citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. The phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth.

          135. Paul Smith says

            No, that is not what natural born citizen means and that assumption is precisely why we find ourselves with a POTUS who is influenced by foreign history. Wannabe lawyers like you WANT that to be the definition but it is not.

            A reference supports a position. If you wish to state a position and support if with quotes from references, we can talk. My guess is that you will not find the term ‘natural born citizen’ in any of them.

            ” and explicitly recognized that such children were “natural born Citizens.””. . .and repealed it five years later as the error it was.

            ” The phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth.”. . .So say you.

          136. AKLady says

            You are a bloviating failure of a pretended historical and legal scholar who in fact doesn’t have the faintest clue what he is talking about.

            You need to read U.S. Code, Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part I, § 1401

          137. Paul Smith says

            title 8 implements the 14th Amendment. I doesn’t have jack to do with the natural born citizen clause of Article II, Section 1. It’s you that needs to get a clue.

          138. AKLady says

            Again, I suggest you take Law 101.
            Just reading Constitutional case law would probably be a big help to you.

          139. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Hey Paul, with a BA in History with a field minor in Historical Research, and another BA in Education, a Constitutional Conservative Southern Confederate Rebel, I hold the founders in the highest esteem. I hope you enjoy this because I had to dig it up. But, my favorite, John Quincy Adams had a lot to say on the issue of immigration. During his administration the nation was in crisis. Banks were printing too much money, jobs were hard to come be and immigration was burgeoning mostly with immigrants from Germany. A German wanted to immigrate and had to audacity to write to Adams to ask for a job if he immigrated! This is what Adams told him and basically all immigrants who wanted to come to our shores. As a historian, this letter gives great insight to the seriousness of immigration. The borders were open, but is was up to each individual to make his or her own way in the new World, Americans valued personal responsibility and liberty more highly than security and public welfare. This letter reveals this face like nothing else. Let its wisdom be a lesson for today as we throw open our borders to the poor in an age of government largess. “This country must always operate as an obstacle to the granting of favors to new comers. this is a land, not of privileges, but of equal rights. Privileges are granted by European sovereigns to particular classes of individuals…. Emigrants coming from Germany, therefore, or from elsewhere coming here, are not to expect favors from the governments. They are to expect, of they choose to become citizens, equal rights with those of the natives of the country. If affluent, to posses the means of making their property productive, with moderation, and with safety–if diligent, but industrious, hones and frugal, the means of obtaining easy and comfortable subsistence for themselves and their families. They come to a life of independence, but of labor–AND IF THEY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THEMSELVES TO THE CHARACTER, MORAL, POLITICAL, AND PHYSICAL, OF THIS COUNTRY, WITH ALL ITS COMPENSATING BALANCES OF GOOD AND EVIL, THEN THE ATLANTIC IS ALWAYS OPEN TO THEM TO RETURN TO THE LAND OF THEIR NATIVITY AND THEIR FATHERS. To one thing they must make up their minds, or they will be disappointed in every expectation of happiness as Americans. THEY MUST CAST OFF THE EUROPEAN SKIN, NEVER TO RESUME IT. THEY MUST LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR POSTERITY, RATHER THAN BACKWARD TO THEIR ANCESTORS, THEY MUST BE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEIR OWN FEELINGS MAY BE, THOSE OF THEIR CHILDREN WILL CLING TO THE PREJUDICES OF THIS COUNTRY, AND WILL PARTAKE OF THAT PROUD SPIRIT, NOT UNMINGLED WITH DISDAIN, WHICH YOU HAVE NOTICED IS REMARKABLE IN THE GENERAL CHARACTER OF THIS PEOPLE, AND AS PERHAPS BELONGING PARTICULARLY TO THOSE OF GERMAN DESCENT, BORN IN THIS COUNTRY. The governments are servants of the people, and are so considered by the people who place and displace them at their pleasure. They are chosen to manage for short periods the common concerns, and when they cease to give satisfaction, they cease to be employed. (Gee, what an unusual notion) WE UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY THAT OF THE MULTITUDE OF FOREIGNERS WHO YEARLY COME TO OUR SHORES TO TAKE UP ABODE, COME NOT OUT OF AFFECTION OR REGARD TO A LAND TO WHICH THEY ARE TOTAL STRANGERS, AND WITH THE VERY LANGUAGE OF WHICH, THOSE OF THEM WHO ARE GERMANS ARE GENERALLY UNACQUAINTED. WE KNOW THAT THEY COME WITH VIEW, NOT TO OUR BENEFIT, BUT TO THEIR OWN–NOT TO PROMOTE OUR WELFARE, BUT TO BETTER THEIR OWN.I am sorry to tell you that when a vacancy in any of them, whenever such vacancies occur, the applications from natives of the country to fill them, are far more numerous than the offices, and the recommendation in behalf of the candidates so strong and so earnest, that it would seldom be possible to give preference over a native of this country than to a foreigner. IT WOULD GIVE ME SINCERE PLEASURE TO CONSIDER YOU AS ONE OF OUR FUTURE AND PERMANENT FELLOW CITIZENS, I SHOULD NOT DO EITHER AN ACT OF KINDNESS OR OF JUSTICE TO YOU, IN DISSUADING YOU FROM THE OFFERS OF EMPLOYMENT AND OF HONORABLE SERVICES, TO WHICH YOU ARE CALLED IN YOUR NATIVE COUNTRY!” WOW!
            What a difference, Adams says he has to give Americans jobs before an immigrant’s! What a shame our country has been led to the precipice by not employing these principles that I hold so dear in the founders, which if practiced today, would make it easier and more of a happy partnership with immigrants if they knew before hand as did this immigrant that he would be given no special treatment, indeed, it would be harder for him. He also says that their “children must shed their native skins and be of the loyalty of this country.” What a shame we do not have men of that caliber today..Oh, but wait…what…TED CRUZ #45…IF WE EVEN HAVE ELECTIONS BY THEM. Happy Trails and thanks for reading this long and somewhat lengthy post. The Alamo City, The Republic of Texas!

          140. AKLady says

            A person born beyond the geographical boundaries of the United States and its outlying possessions, of parents who are both U.S. citizens, is a national and a citizen of the United States at birth if one parent had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the birth of such person. If only one parent is a citizen and the other is a national—but not a citizen—the parent who is a citizen must have been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of the child in order for the child to be a national and a citizen of the United States at birth.A person born out of wedlock in a foreign country acquires at birth American citizenship if the mother was a citizen at the time of such person’s birth and had formerly been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year preceding the birth.

          141. Paul Smith says

            Ditto my last comment. Irrelevant.

          142. AKLady says

            Do you claim Obama’s mother was not an American citizen?

          143. Paul Smith says

            I have no clue. Maybe someday will know that man’s true history but I rather doubt it.

          144. AKLady says

            Maybe someday there will not longer be bigots in America.
            I have been waiting a lifetime.
            I know I will never see the end of hate and bigotry in my lifetime.

            The CIA and the FBI are not ignorant or incompetant. Neither are the Military Intellegence Services. If Obana was not qualified to be President, he would never have been elected.

            Don’t bother with more lies. There has been no valid evidence produced. Every forged document the racist right has produced has been proven a forgery. by civilian investigations.

            You can keep sinning. Lying is a sin. Yourlies, and those of people like you, are an embarassment to America. On the other hjand, they do prove one thing
            American enjoy freedom of speech.

            My quiestion to you, is why do you lie about Obama?

          145. Paul Smith says

            Of course you won’t, we’re humans.

            My question to you is, why do you not see Obama’s lies?

          146. AKLady says

            A child born in a foreign country can become a U.S. citizen if his or her parents become naturalized U.S. citizens. If the child is brought to the United States before becoming an adult, and the child’s parents become citizens, then the child is entitled to claim U.S. citizenship when he or she becomes an adult. Although his or her birth certificate will still reflect a foreign-born status, a person in this situation can obtain a certificate of nationality by filing an application with the Secretary of State.

          147. Paul Smith says

            what has any of that got to do with ‘natural born citizen’?

          148. AKLady says

            By the way, Daddy Cruz was Fidel Castro’s lifelong friend.

          149. Paul Smith says

            Irrelevant.

          150. AKLady says

            Fine, you support the son of the Dictator’s best friend.
            Having seen the injuries inflicted upon Cuban refugees,
            I cannot in good conscience do that.

          151. AKLady says

            Very relevant.
            The man grew up in the home of a communist.
            Daddy Cruz did not apply for citizen ship until his darling ran for high public office.

          152. Paul Smith says

            I get the feeling that we agree that Rubio and Cruz and Jindal are not natural born citizens and are not eligible to be POTUS.

          153. AKLady says

            Cruz was born to an American mother in Canada.
            He is a natural born American citizen.
            His father is/was a Communist. Castro’s lifelong friend and suppirter.

            Daddy has a good cover, he poses as a Christian preacher.
            Rubio was born in Miami, Florida.
            He is a natural born citizen.
            He lied to Miami voters about his parent’s imigration.
            They were not Cuban refugees.
            They came to America before Castro took over the government.
            Data has shown they may also have been Castro supporters.

            Jindal was born in Louisana.
            He is a natural born citizen.
            He is an anchor baby.
            Jindal’s family is a bit harder to pin down.
            India’s records keeping is not 21st Century in most areas.
            Interestingly, he is Catholic, yet the majority religion in India is Hindu.

          154. Paul Smith says

            no.

          155. AKLady says

            The LAW as stated by the U.S. Government:

            To become a citizen at birth, i.e., “natural born” you must:

            Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements.

            [http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship See also 8 U.S.C. § 1408,

            You do not have to like it, you simply do not have any say in the matter,

          156. Paul Smith says

            I find it hard to believe that you, a pretend lawyer, would dare to use 8USC1401 in an attempt to subvert the Constitution. 8USC1401 is the language created to implement the 14th Amendment and has ZIP to do with the term ‘natural born citizen’. You should be ashamed.

          157. AKLady says

            Sorry Paul, you are incorrect.
            You have been incorrect from the start.

            Insult is not going to make it.
            Give it up or provide factual evidence.

          158. Paul Smith says

            You are ignorant. You pretend to know the law and you don’t even know the difference between legal terms or the fact that the natural born citizen clause of the Constitution and 8USC are unrelated. Stupid is much too mild a word for you. Fuck off.

          159. AKLady says

            Another right-winger that does not know the first thing about law.

            Sorry Paul, you are incorrect.
            You have been incorrect from the start.

            Insult is not going to make it.
            Give it up or provide factual evidence

          160. AKLady says

            Rubio lied about when his parents came to America. He kied to get the Miami Cuban vote. His parents came before Castro came into power.

          161. AKLady says

            Jindal is an “anchor baby”.
            His parents were only in the U.S. four months vefore he was born.

          162. Paul Smith says

            Correct. Like Rubio and Cruz, he is ineligible to be POTUS.

          163. AKLady says

            Obama was born in Hawaii.
            His mother was an American citizen.

            Obama could have been born in China, he would still be a “natural born” American citizen.

            Your ignorance and bigotry is an embarassment to America.

          164. Paul Smith says

            I do not know ANY of that. I know that the Certificates of Live Birth presented for/by him are forgeries but I believe that was deliberate and used as a smoke screen to distract from his father’s citizenship problem.

            Your opinion of me is irrelevant. Nominate an ineligible candidate and lose the election.

          165. AKLady says

            Yolu choose to believe his birth certificate is a forgery.
            You have chosen to believe a lie.
            His father’s citizeship has no bearing on the issue, whatsoever
            Obama was born in Hawaii. His father was not a diplomat.
            You have never been in a position that required a security clearence.
            How can any thinking human being hold such an idiotic conclusion?
            Just how dumb do you think the U.S. Military,the FBI, the NSA and the CIA are?

          166. Paul Smith says

            I KNOW it’s a forgery. You choose to believe it is genuine. I also know that you either choose deliberately not to educate yourself or are intentionally ignorant.

          167. AKLady says

            I choose to believe the State of Hawaii.

            I choose to believe the law means what it says it does.

            I also am fully aware that Obama’s mother was an American citizen, by birth.

            Therefore, no matter what country he was born in, he is an American citizen.

            Hence, your statements are false on their face — period. [http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies.html

          168. Paul Smith says

            You can ‘choose’ to believe anything you like. That doesn’t make it true or legal. Choose wisely or we live under socialist rule for another 4 to 8 years.

          169. AKLady says

            Apparently, you sent the wrong people to Congress.
            .
            We the people do not elect a President.
            We the people have never elected a President.
            We the people cannot elect a President.
            .
            Does your state even allow you to vote for its Electoral College members?
            .
            Please learn how your government actually works.

          170. AKLady says

            You have no 4evidence to back such an accusation.
            You choose to believe a lie.

          171. Paul Smith says

            The displayed document is not an official document. It was created on a computer. The displayed information may or may not be correct but it is clearly a forgery.

          172. AKLady says

            Sorry to have to be the one to bring you back to reality.
            All birth data is now computerized.

            All birthcertificates are printed by computers.

            My youngest was born in 1969.
            His birth certificate is printed by a computer.

            What cave have you been living in?

          173. Paul Smith says

            Hey, dumbass – I don’t give a flying fuck about the birth certificate. Daddy was a foreign national, Junior is not a natural born citizen and is a usurper and a traitor.

          174. AKLady says

            Frankly, it is my opinion that unless the mother is a citizen, a paternaty test should be required.

            Anyone can claim to be the father of a child,
            There is no doubt about the mother.

          175. Paul Smith says

            Today, unfortunately, the mother is also in question. The fact that sperm and egg can be combined in a test tube and implanted forever makes parentage questionable. Fortunately, science has given us increasingly cheaper and more accurate/complete DNA testing. Too bad we don’t have that for Obama.

          176. AKLady says

            No. Paul, Obama’s mother has never been in question.

            Moreover, his birth place has never been in question..

            You cannot seriously believe that someone who cannot pass a extremely high level security screening could possibly become President. Then of course, paranoia may have destroyed your ability to reason.

            “Top Secret” is is simply a label. There are certain “Special Access Program” and “Sensitive Compartmented Information” levels that are extra layers of security on top of the TS
            clearance.

            Have you ever been the subject of the scrutiny that such a clearence entails?

          177. Paul Smith says

            You have your opinion, we have ours. It still isn’t relevant, Obama’s father makes him ineligible and a usurper.

          178. AKLady says

            The law does not suport your opnion.

            “To become a citizen at birth, you must:

            Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR

            had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements”

            http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship

          179. Paul Smith says

            You keep telling me what ‘the law’ says. The law doesn’t say anything. The constitutional authors had a meaning for natural born citizen which is easily discernable if you bother to look. Here are two articles that a. dispel your ‘citizen at birth’ nonsense and b. provide insight into the founders’ position respectively:

            The Current INS Officially Recognizes A Delineation Between Natural-Born and Native-Born. | Natural Born Citizen
            **What 's a 'Natural Born Citizen' and why a U.S. President Must Be One, with KrisAnne Hall** – YouTube

          180. AKLady says

            Problem, you do not know what you are talking about.

            Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the the last, or current presidential election were born.

            A bit of historic research would also reveal that your conspiracy theory quesitions the Presidency of Chester Arthur.

            Oh, and Paul, many “natural born” citizens enjoy dual citizenship at birth.

            If your opinion had the least bit of leagal stanging, there would exist no such concept as the “anchor baby”.

            Donofrio vs. Wells challenged the “natural” born citizen eligibility of three Presidential Candidates: Obama, McCain and Calero. The U.S. Supreme Cour dismissed Donofrio as legal nonsense.

          181. Paul Smith says

            ” Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the the last, or current presidential election were born.”. . .GOOD!! That will settle it. All you need to do is show us the missing constitutional amendment that addressed that issue please?

            ” Donofrio vs. Wells challenged the “natural” born citizen eligibility of three Presidential Candidates: Obama, McCain and Calero. The U.S. Supreme Cour dismissed Donofrio as legal nonsense.”. . .That’s a lie. Now let’s see if you can tell me why.

          182. AKLady says

            “Barack Obama is American and we have no reason to think otherwise”.

            U.S. Supreme Court, Donofrio vs. Wells, No. 08A407, Dec. 8, 2008.
            ,

          183. AKLady says

            Calero is not now, nor has he ever been a U.S. Citizen.

            He was born in Nicaragua to Nicaraguan parents. He is a green card holder.

          184. AKLady says

            What happens if the father is unknown?
            That question should quickly disabuse you of any cirizenship by mother question.

          185. Paul Smith says

            I do not dispute citizenship via mom. I question that a person born of a foreign national father is a natural born citizen – a term clearly defined by Emerich De Vattel in his compilation of natural law called THE LAW OF NATIONS, a reference work extensively used by the constitutional authors.

            An unknown father would not be an influence on the child. No harm, no foul.

          186. AKLady says

            “The Law of Nations”, Emerich De Vattel published in 1758. Oriinally published in German, an English language version was not available until 1760.

            Paul, in 1758, women were chattle.
            When the U.S. COnstitution was written, women were chattle,
            They had no citizenship, they were property.
            Children were property.

            Black men were given citizenship rights, i.e. voting rights, in 1870.
            The United Kingdom gave full rights to women before the U.S.

            In the U.S., women ceased ro be chattle in 1920.

          187. Paul Smith says

            True, the translation sent to Benjamin Franklin was written in French in which our ancestors were proficient.

            Also true, women were little more than chattel and back then the woman took the citizenship of the husband when they married. That’s why it is the father’s citizenship that is relevant though today I’d expect TPTB would find that both were required.

            But you’re the lawyer wannabe – why am I having to instruct you?

            One thing is for sure, you’re desperately trying to defend your position which leads me to believe that a.) you don’t have a clue and b.) you’re talking from the heart and not from the head. Maybe you need to evaluate your motives?

          188. AKLady says

            Is it possible that you are not aware the gender discrimination is illegal in America?

            Such a determination, as you seem to feel is valid, would be a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

          189. AKLady says

            Cruz’s father was Fidel Castro’s lifelong friend.

          190. 1American1st says

            You’re just making $hit up again, Commie. Cruz’s father left Cuba because he didn’t agree with Castro.

            That being said… TRUMP 2016

          191. AKLady says

            The Cruz family left Cuba
            before Castro became a tyrant.
            Infantile namecalling is so not impresed

          192. AKLady says

            The Cruz’s move to Canada was employment related.
            They left Cuba before Castro became a tirant.
            Maybe you should read detai, not just headline propaganda.

          193. Paul Smith says

            How is that relevant to anything? Cruz’s father was not a US citizen, Cruz is not a natural born citizen and Cruz is ineligible to be POTUS.

            You might find this of interest: A Congressional Natural Born Citizen Parts I, II & III: Who Knew What & For How Long? | Constitutionally Speaking

          194. AKLady says

            Cruz’s mother is/was an Amrican citizen.

            Cruz is an American citizen.
            [http://www.uscis.gov/laws

          195. Paul Smith says

            I agreed with you that Cruz is a citizen. He was also a Canadian citizen at birth. He was born on foreign soil. His father was not a US citizen. He is not a natural born citizen. Did you read the article I linked to?

          196. AKLady says

            He was also a Cuban citizen at birth.

          197. Paul Smith says

            I did some research on that. Cuban law is a bit different and they do not give citizenship to kids born on foreign soil as we do – not that it matters one way or the other.

          198. AKLady says

            Don’t know where you obtained your data, but your facts are wrong.

            ARTICLE 28

            Cuban citizenship is acquired by birth or through naturalization.

            ARTICLE 29

            Cuban citizens by birth are:

            1. those born in national territory, with the exception of the children of foreign persons at the service of their government or international organizations. In the case of the children of temporary foreign residents in the country, the law stipulates the requisites and formalities;

            2. those born abroad, one of whose parents at least is Cuban and on an official mission;
            3. those born abroad, one of whose parents at least is Cuban, who have complied with the formalities stipulated by law;

            4. those born outside national territory, one of whose parents at least is Cuban and who lost their Cuban citizenship provide they apply for said citizenship according to the procedures stated by law;

            5. foreigners who, by virtue of their exceptional merits won in the struggles for Cubans liberation, were considered Cuban citizens by birth.

          199. Paul Smith says

            Well thanks for that clarification. So now we know that Rubio and Cruz had (at least) dual citizenship and dual allegiance at birth. Find somebody we can all support.

          200. AKLady says

            It is said thart “Knowledge is power”.

            Having said that, I’ll probably be called Muslim.
            The earliest documented occurrence of the phrase “Knowledge is power” is from Imam Ali (599-661 CE), the first Imam of Shia Islam, as recorded in the tenth-century book Nahj Al-Balagha (originally in Arabic
            ).

          201. Deby says

            yeah, well he has just been replaced by obozo the clown those 2 are BFF’s now.

          202. AKLady says

            Childish foul language.
            Infantile name-calling.
            Come back and talk to me when you are a mature adult.

          203. AKLady says

            Grow up.
            Childish foul language does not impress anyone.

          204. Deby says

            foul language? that’s your comment?

          205. Chris S. says

            probably a conspiracy theory some even say Cruz was born in Canda but you have to be a naturalized U.S citizen to be able to run for president …last i remember it anyway

          206. Paul Smith says

            You ‘remember’ incorrectly.

          207. ROBERT says

            Every bit is true. Rubio, not for POTUS, hes for open borders, Amnesty, HB-1 visas. This country needs to be ran like a business. Economic policies that protect American citizens. Military that is feared. A Health care system that finally goes beyond state borders. This lgbt drama stays to the states not a Gov’t mandate. Stop funding PPH with tax payers money. I’ve read the policies of TRUMP, not changing my mind. Cruz is my 2nd choice. Every thing Trump stands for this Ret. USN, CPO, is fine by me, gutsy, talks about Immigration & what to do, others are scared. This trade with asia pacific is horrible, as with NAFTA. He will do what R. Reagan did, get back to the Economic Power we once were. TRUMP 2016-24.

          208. Chris S. says

            if you want to go back to race relations before 1960 so…be my guest…but i don’t know anyone else that’d want to go back the days of things like the race riots Detroit 1963 and worse like when Johnson had the CIA kill Kennedy…November 1963 …least of all me….not that i’m an antique….on the other hand you’re sort of right about Cruz ….and what’s CPO ??? if i’m right you’re retired U.S Navy …anyway the perfect ticket for 2016 would be Rubio/Cruz …some of the others might be good too …like Rand Paul …a little extreme and isolationist for me but at least he’s not racist…or anti-immigrant..and they’re more stable than Trump …..Trump always flips out if he doesn’t get what he wants as soon as he wants it..put that on steroids and a finger on the nuclear button…best case is WW III could explode aka U.S V. Soviet Union v.2

          209. AKLady says

            Rand Paul is both racist and sexist.
            His views on alternate genders is stone age.

          210. Paul Smith says

            Eh, Rand isn’t getting the nomination anyway. Why get all worked up over him?

          211. Chris S. says

            stone age??? and i have no idea about racist

          212. 1American1st says

            We don’t need “Gang of 8” Rubio as President. If we wanted to keep 12 – 20 Million Illegals in America we could just as well vote for a damn Democrat. I refuse to vote for someone who puts Illegal Aliens above American Citizens. PERIOD!

          213. Chris S. says

            i’m one of the first to admit we need to secure the border with everything we can first…but doing that doesn’t mean you have to be anti-immigrant

          214. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Democracy, or democratic government, is “a
            system of government in which all the people of a state or polity …
            are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting
            to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly,” as
            defined by the Oxford English Dictionary.

            re·pub·lic, noun: republic; plural noun: republics: a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

          215. AKLady says

            I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

          216. Paul Smith says

            Poorly worded, should have been “and to the constitutional Republic for which it stands”. (and the “under God” part should never have been inserted – damned politicians)

          217. AKLady says

            “Under God” is the God you worship, regardless of your religious conviction.
            The majority of the Foinders were not Christians.

          218. Paul Smith says

            Doesn’t change my comment – ‘under god’ should never have been added.

          219. ward says

            Damned hypos like you are the problem not the National Anthem

          220. Paul Smith says

            Opinion noted.

          221. AKLady says

            A republic (from Latin: res publica) is a form of government or country in which power resides in elected individuals representing the citizen body

            [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

          222. Paul Smith says

            And a Constitutional Republic like we live in has the further constraint of law to prevent the majority from stepping on the minority. . .at least that’s the way it was designed to work.

          223. ward says

            Where do you & your type of libtard support for bo come from or even know what “for & by the people” refers to for a Free Nation and U.S Constitutional Rights ?

          224. AKLady says

            THE FOUNDING FSTHERS WERE LIBERALS.
            THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE CRIMUINAL REVOLUTIONARIES.
            YOu might want to try and remember that.
            It all depends on which side of the street you occupy.

          225. ward says

            You might “want to get your facts right about the tyranny enemy we defeated to secure the U.S. Freedom & Constitutional Rights that you & your type of libtards blatantly abuse that proves you do not deserve the U.S.A. ! Go away & take bo to your dictatorship that will fit the enslavement that you advocate and deserve …. !

          226. AKLady says

            American hate and bigotry.
            Is it not beautifult to behold.
            Then people wonder why our citizens are called ugly Americans.
            .
            I suspect you also claim to be a Christian.

          227. OSAMA OBAMA says

            LibTURD ignorance is also NOT BEAUTIFUL to behold. People disrespect us because of our failed, curtain hanging leadership, our limp response to Putin, isis and illegal scum from the cesspools of the world. I suspect you hump Ohussein’s leg.

          228. AKLady says

            Infantile sexual inuendo.
            Grow up little boy.

          229. ROBERT says

            Go and jerk off muslime, your not a lady, like I said your IP is exposing you. TRUMP 2016-24.

          230. ROBERT says

            Repeat, Repeat, Repeat, same old sh*t, rotton minded aklady, just curl up and die already. You spew so much hatred your a muslime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christians don’t have to put up with slime like you, Christians have the right to protect themselves of people like you, your a muslime beoch. TRUMP 20167-24

          231. AKLady says

            Infantile name calling.
            I am so not inpressed.
            Grow up.

          232. AKLady says

            You are not a Christian.
            You do not have the slightest idea as to what Christianity requires.
            “Love thine enemy”. (Matt 5:44).

          233. ROBERT says

            I hate my enemies !!! I don’t take the Bible in a literal sense, neither does anyone else, don’t tell me that I’m not a Christian F*** off as* .

          234. AKLady says

            You are a foul-mouthed, ignorant child.

          235. Paul Smith says

            pot, kettle – black.

          236. AKLady says

            I do not use childish foul langiage.
            I have not been a child for over half a century.
            The alphabet soup after my name says I am anything but ignorant.

          237. Paul Smith says

            Education and common sense are two different things. You have proved that you have little of either based on your inability to communicate.

          238. AKLady says

            The last refuge of the right wing — the insult.
            You have just admitted defeat, not once, but twice.

          239. Paul Smith says

            True Christians don’t treat other people they way you do. You may call yourself a Christian but you clearly don’t spend all your time on your knees seeking forgiveness as you’d need to.

          240. ward says

            Your same old 2 faced created crap & lame hypocritical bull shit that has no intelligence but displays your true identity of libtard destruction to the U.S.A. Christianity & trying to cover up for your muslim cult … !

          241. Deby says

            you are correct ward-AKlady is a mind-numbingly boring libtard who copies and pastes the same stupid, obnoxious, inflammatory comments every time. best to ignore the troll and try not to feed it.

          242. ward says

            Thanks Deby & you are right to stop feeding the troll & starve her ugly ignorance !

          243. AKLady says

            Chidish name calling.
            Childish foul language

            Is it not beautifult to behold.
            Then people wonder why our citizens are called ugly Americans.

          244. Paul Smith says

            I do believe that their definition of ‘liberal’ was very different than today’s ‘liberal (progressive)’

          245. AKLady says

            ‘The founding fathers were traitors.”
            That is about as progressive and liberal as it comes.

          246. ROBERT says

            Your mother should have aborted you when she had the chance MUSLIME, your IP shows your a liar, your not a lady, your a MUSLIME. TRUMP 2016-24.

          247. AKLady says

            Just where do you think my IP is located?
            Do you ever add anying of value to a conversarion?

          248. Deby says

            you make no sense. stop talking

          249. Paul Smith says

            Have it your way, Deby, just so you know that you’ll live under the socialists for another 4 to 8 years if you get this wrong.

          250. OSAMA OBAMA says

            The Founding Fathers were Patriots, not YOUR definitions slug!!

          251. AKLady says

            Suggest you increase your reading comprehension.
            Learn to recognize sarcasm.

          252. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Of course!! Will do!! First you have to present some!! LMAO! TURD!!

          253. ROBERT says

            Suggest you tell everyone here YOUR A MUSLIME, your IP shows your not a lady at all. TRUMP 2016-24.

          254. ward says

            You need to recognize your own ignorance to supporting bo and libtards like you only deserve sarcasm @ the least ! Not deserving U.S. Freedom is your own asinine creation from being so damned duped by bo & his cronies !

          255. AKLady says

            Infantile name calling.
            I am so not impressed.
            No one else is, either.

          256. Paul Smith says

            The founding fathers were traitors. You need to learn your history.

          257. AKLady says

            It all depends on which side of the street you occupy.

          258. Paul Smith says

            The victors write the history. We won so they’re heroes. If we started a revolution, what would we be?

          259. AKLady says

            Stupid.

          260. ward says

            Yes you are very stupid and a duped libtard, muslim, commie #2 enemy {bo is #1 enemy}, against all U.S. Patriotic U.S. Citizens that protect the U.S. Constitution & Bill of Rights that your type stench do not deserve !

          261. AKLady says

            Congress spends the money.
            Congress makesa the laws.
            You elect Congress.
            .
            YOu might ought to take a Consitutional Law course before someone sues you.

          262. ward says

            What street side, you are doomed to the gutter with your libtard support of bo’s wannabe dictatorship from a muslim, marxist hell you’re creating !

          263. AKLady says

            Childish name calling.
            I am so not impressed.
            Come talk to me when you have matured.

          264. AKLady says

            Why do youbelieve it is acceptable to lie?

          265. OSAMA OBAMA says

            My history or the left’s, LGBT, offended, whiners, grifters, usurpers…..

          266. ward says

            Destroying a tyranny regime is not treason, it is defined as LIBERTY & you need to get your history right about what really created the U.S.A. !

          267. Paul Smith says

            Depends on your point of view 🙂

          268. ward says

            Your point of view cannot change the facts of past American history ….. !

          269. Paul Smith says

            It is not my point of view and while history cannot be changed, the future can.

          270. ROBERT says

            Angry A** woman. Founding Fathers were conservatives LIAR!!!!
            Founding Fathers were visionaries for liberty.
            aklady, shut up, you poor as*ed white hater, you live good, but you hate others that have more than you.
            Your a narcissist , what you say don’t mean sh*t. Your brainwashed into believing you can convince anyone here of your twisted maddness, Your a horrible thing, you need to just die of rotten filthy thoughts. Then scatter your ashes, you don’t deserve to be buried on this planet that Vets have died for. Besides there wouldn’t be anyone at your funeral but the wind anyway. Go away you evil piece of just barely alive tissue. I Never ever read some of the most rotten minded words in my entire life. And I’ve met and killed America’s enemies, your right along side their minds as well, again, GTH. TRUMP 2016-24.

          271. AKLady says

            What ever gave you the idea that revolution was conservative?

          272. ROBERT says

            Now your really stupid, and no you didn’t serve in the VN war, or you would not say anything like this, that war never threatened to come here, your a fraud, I’m a Desert Stormer, as* hole

          273. AKLady says

            I gave Uncle 6 years of my life in exchange for medical school.
            You are obviously under the influence.
            Get off the drugs, they only make the memories worse.

          274. Paul Smith says

            First you’re a lawyer and now a wannabe doctor. You’ve had all this education and you don’t write for shit. Have you succeeded at anything?

          275. AKLady says

            You are confused.
            People on this blog do not “read for shit”.
            I am a retired physican.
            I provide advocacy for the disabled.
            Come see me when Social Security denies your disability claim.
            If you are an Alaskan, come see me when the statw does that, or
            some insurance company refuses to cover your work injury.

          276. Paul Smith says

            I’m a Texan and the only way I’ll see Alaska is from the deck of a cruise ship. I have no idea what you used to be, today you’re a senile, socialist old lady.

          277. AKLady says

            The last refuge of a “conservative” — the insult.

          278. ROBERT says

            Yes conservatives Fought the Revolution you dumb As*, British you stupid As*. You know what your a dumb as* fake as*. Leave here, your a poser. Stop commenting here,

          279. AKLady says

            Revolutionaries are not conservative.
            You are certainly fixated on a certain part of you anatomy.

          280. Paul Smith says

            Ummm, no. There were no conservatives back then. Progressives hadn’t screwed things up such that conservatives weren’t needed then.

          281. 1American1st says

            You got one thing right, HLady…. DEMOCRATS ARE CRIMINALS.

          282. AKLady says

            Do you ever have anything of value to add ro a conversation?

          283. OSAMA OBAMA says

            ZING!!

          284. AKLady says

            Not one Christian all Deist or Unitarian.
            The seperation of Church and State was/is intentional.

          285. ward says

            bo is forcing his illegal foreigners & muslims on the U.S. Citizens & they are a murdering cult without religion or morals to dictate the world like WW 2 Nazis.. !

          286. AKLady says

            Another one who failed History Civics and American Government.
            You really shoulf have staued in school.

          287. ILoveAPBT's says

            Some people have a lack of understanding because it doesn’t say exactly what they want it to say. Personally I totally agree with you. You’re right on the mark 🙂

          288. AKLady says

            Another one who needs to take a basic law course.
            Comgress makes the laws.
            The U,S. Supreme Court defines hoiw they are to be appkied.
            Separation of church and state has been the law since our Founders were in charge. That is what they intended.

          289. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Another one who needs spell check…We really missed your inane posting, your trite remarks and overall kissing of obama’s and muSLIMES ass. ollie snackbar toots!

          290. AKLady says

            Ignorant, childish insults combined with un-American religious bigotry.
            You are an embarassment to America.

          291. ILoveAPBT's says

            No lady you are. Why don’t you find a hole and bury yourself as deep as you can get. I’m sure most of us would not miss you.

          292. AKLady says

            When you stop writing un-American hate, I’ll go away.
            I do not see that happening any time soon.

          293. ILoveAPBT's says

            Me unAmerican? You have no concept of the word. Go away little girl and allow the adults to talk….LOL I’ll bet your mom doesn’t know you’re up past your bedtime…LOL

          294. AKLady says

            Are you a member of the American Nazi Party?
            Your religious bigotry is renarkable.

          295. ILoveAPBT's says

            Do you mean “remarkable”? That’s the pot calling the kettle black.

          296. AKLady says

            You are an ignorant, bigoted fool.

          297. ILoveAPBT's says

            Pot calling the kettle black. You’ve never answered my question. I’ve got you figured out……you’re one of those people who love to toot their own horn. You don’t answer anyone’s questions cause you don’t have the answer. You’re so proud of yourself because you can throw out insults and “think” that’s a sign of intelligence. Go away little imature girl go play with the children that you “think” you can intimidate 🙂

          298. AKLady says

            You asked a qiestion?
            An intellegent question?
            When did that happen?

          299. ward says

            bo defies congress, his POTUS sworn oath not protecting the U.S. Constitution & National Security with abuse of power E.O.’s brining every damned illegal foreigner on earth into the U.S. for his new populace support for his wannabe dictatorship & you are no lady but may be an “AK” or what ever ! Need any more facts about bo’s crimes against U.S. Citizens Freedom then pull your head out & see his deceitful whims & ways from a muslim, marxist hell that bo & his crony libtards are creating !Treason is his name & crime is his game ! Have you got it all down now “AK” …?

          300. AKLady says

            Your ignorance is only topped by your bigotry.
            Suggest you take a basic law course.

          301. Sluggo D. Mann says

            You’re so full of shit you should take an enima

          302. AKLady says

            Marine Corps no way in Hades. If you had been a Marine, you would know how to behave like a real man.
            Foul langagw and childish insults do not make the grade.

          303. ILoveAPBT's says

            “Foul langagw and childish insults do not make the grade.” Says the QUEEN of childish insults. OMG not again….”language” not langagw 🙂

          304. ILoveAPBT's says

            LOL way to go!!!!

          305. AKLady says

            In that case, I suggest you learn what the law actually is.
            So far, you have blown a low of smoke and told quite a few bigoted lies.
            Oh. and try to remmeber that freedom of reigion
            is what this country was founded upon.

          306. ILoveAPBT's says

            For someone who wants everyone to “think” she’s so smart you either need to do one of 2 things. Calm down when you’re typing or go back to grade school and learn to spell 🙂

          307. AKLady says

            Get this streight –
            Your opinion means nothing to me.
            Is that simple enough for you to understand.

            Come talk to me when you have fact and law to support your “claims”.

          308. ILoveAPBT's says

            Blah blah blah…….at least I think for myself. You know what that is right? If you go through life repeating what everyone else says and have no thoughts of your own. You are one very dull person. Of course all of your comments are nothing but what someone else says…LOL
            Oh and by the way at least I am capable of proper grammer. Your are the only asinine type person that I show just how ignorant you are. If my comments mean nothing to you why do you always answer me?
            As Williams Shakespeare said once. ” Me thinks thou dost protest too much.”

          309. AKLady says

            “Oh and by the way at least I am capable of proper grammer. Your are the only asinine type person that I show just how ignorant you are”

            Possibly you meant “grammar”?

          310. ILoveAPBT's says

            Instead of telling others to do this and that. I think you should do it first. Online courses do not count for REAL in class education.

          311. AKLady says

            Sorry to disappoint you, I have 24 college credits in law, 12 at the graduate level. They were aquired at highly respected institutions of higher learning, such as Marquette University. Although not an attorney, cases I have represented in are cited in law books.

          312. Paul Smith says

            Sure as hell could have fooled me. Did you pass any of them?

          313. AKLady says

            Where can I read about your pro se Supreme Court cases?
            Which states cite them as case law?
            Which universities use them as teaching materials?

          314. Paul Smith says

            I’m not interested in talking to you. I’m interested in using you to let people know that if Cruz, Rubio or Jindal are nominated we’ll lose the election.

          315. ILoveAPBT's says

            🙂

          316. ILoveAPBT's says

            Oh yeah well it certainly doesn’t show in the fact that you cannot spell 🙂
            FACT: All of the education in the world doesn’t make you intelligent. If you have no “common sense” all you have is book smarts and that doesn’t count in the real world 🙂

          317. AKLady says

            All the education in the world will not make me a good typist.
            Since, I do not earn my living by tying, I frankly don’t give a hoot.
            .
            Now you can insult me until you are blue in the face, or your fingers wear out.
            You opinion is meaningless in the totallity of world affairs.

          318. ILoveAPBT's says

            “Me thinks you protest way too much”….if my comments are meaningless to you why on earth do you keep responding???? Are you that bored?

          319. AKLady says

            Because they contain lies.

          320. ILoveAPBT's says

            It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to be able to type. Just someone that can spell and know where the keys on the keyboard are. You must care or you wouldn’t keep responding to my comments 🙂

          321. AKLady says

            How old are you? 10?

          322. ILoveAPBT's says

            Why? what does it matter how old I am? Your insults are just as juvenile as mine. So that makes you what 5?

          323. AKLady says

            The Appeal to Common Practice is a fallacy with the following structure:

            X is a common action.
            Therefore X is correct/moral/justified/reasonable, etc.

          324. ILoveAPBT's says

            At least I can spell 🙂 that really bothers you doesn’t it? With all the education you say you have and cannot spell. If I were you I’d do something about it.

          325. AKLady says

            With all the education I have, I cannot type.
            Insult away, baby boy.
            At my age, I franky do not give a royal…

          326. ILoveAPBT's says

            For
            starters I am female not male. And probably older than you are. And you must
            care about what I think or you would ignore me. Personally I think it’s
            hilarious.

          327. AKLady says

            With all the education I have, I cannot type.

            Insult away, baby girl.

            At my age, I franky do not give a royal…

            So sorry for the mistake, women usually have more intellegence and better manners.

            Older than me. Doubtful. Age usually brings a bit of maturity into the equation.

          328. ILoveAPBT's says

            Apparently women like you are very immature…….. you just keep coming back for more 🙂

          329. AKLady says

            Yes, I enjoy making you look like the fool you are.

          330. ILoveAPBT's says

            At least I don’t have to put forth any effort in making you look like a fool….you do a great job all by yourself…. LMAO 🙂

          331. AKLady says

            Thank you for proving my point.

          332. ILoveAPBT's says

            Thank you as well 🙂

          333. FreedomTrainUSA says

            This entire thing about separation of Church and State came from a very NARROW Supreme Court Ruling in 1947…it was called “In Everson v. Board of Education (1947),

          334. Paul Smith says

            Yep and it was based on the 1st and 14th Amendments. If you allow one, you must allow all and if you reject one you must reject all.

          335. FreedomTrainUSA says

            They pull of certain words out of context from what is written…and then TWIST THOSE WORDS into what they want it to say…Not what is really says…

          336. Paul Smith says

            From your perspective. You would subvert the equal rights for all protections of the 14th Amendment to protect your particular religious sect.

          337. 1American1st says

            Supreme Court of Jokers… that said it all.

            I have lost ALL respect for SCOTUS.

            When SCOTUS illegally “created” a law, based on their own biased personal & political agenda, to legalize homosexual marriage, they should have been removed from the bench immediately!

            SCOTUS has no power to “create” laws.

            I want to know:

            Why the House didn’t pursue action against the Liberal judges who chose to violate our Constitution!?!

            Why our legislators didn’t immediately rescind the illegal Same-Sex Marriage law, illegally written by SCOTUS?

            Why are they still on the Supreme Court?

            And why do they still have a law license after blatantly violating our Constitution?

            Inquiring minds want to know!

          338. FreedomTrainUSA says

            The reason no action has been taken…is because this Establishment RINO Run Congress has one of two problems….The vast majority believe the same BULLSHIT that the DC DICTATOR and the D****RATS do…and most of those that do not believe the BULLSHIT….do not have the BALLS to do anything about it….There is a small third group that want to do something…but they are so small a MINORITY that they do not have the NUMBERS to get anything accomplished…

          339. AKLady says

            A bit of history for you to digest
            The Majority of the Founding Fathers were not Christians.

            John Adams was a Unitarian. He rejected belief in the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, core concepts of Christian dogma.

            Jefferson’s skepticism of traditional Christianity is well known. Jefferson once famously observed to Adams: “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”

            Madison was perhaps the strictest church-state separa- tionist among the founders, opposing not only chaplains in Congress and the military but also government prayer proclamations.

            You need to learn how your country actually works.
            You also need to actually study history.
            .

          340. AKLady says

            Everything you have quoted states that America is not a “Christian” nation.
            Everything you have quoted clearly states there is no “offical” religion in this country.

          341. mac12sam12 says

            Are we a muslim nation? tee hee. I would like to see you live under sharia law.
            http://www.barenakedislam.com

          342. ILoveAPBT's says

            Yep me too.

          343. AKLady says

            Islam was here before America was a nation. It did not come here by choice, it was brought in chains.

            We are anation of people who are Christian, Jewish, Mormon, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Baha’ism, Confucianism,Indigenous, Janism, New AgeRastafarianism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Taoism, Wicca, Zoroastrianism, and on, and on …

          344. ILoveAPBT's says

            According to Wikipedia as of 2014 this country IS Christianity (70.6%) , No
            religion (22.8%), Judaism (1.9%), Islam (0.9%), Hinduism (0.7%),Other religions
            (2.7%)

            So when you start spouting off that we are NOT a Christian nation
            you’re WRONG. Why haven’t you learned that just because you “think” something is
            true IT’S NOT!!! See there you go believing your lies again 🙂

          345. Paul Smith says

            And that is precisely the reason that religion (not god) was written out of the Constitution, to prevent the majority from dominating and persecuting the minorities.

          346. ILoveAPBT's says

            Ok…I’ll say this slowly so you can understand it. In this country….you know the USA “Christianity” is the most practiced religion. And Christians believe in GOD. I do not care if it was written out of the Constitution. I’m saying that most people that have a preference in the US do believe in GOD. People who believe in GOD don’t look at it like people like you do. Knock it because really and truly you DO NOT understand it. Oh I know you’ll come back with spouting hate about the “imaginay One in the sky”. And guess what I DON’T CARE! I’d much rather be around folks that at least believe GOD exists. True Christians are the best people in the world to be around. And guess what? I’m not even a Christian. Because true Christians have something that you will never understand and that’s called “Faith”. So after it’s all said and done. You can spout facts (by the way which are man made facts) all day long. Because GOD does exist and you can talk from sun up to sun set and say that he doesn’t exist and it changes nothing. Because he’s still there 🙂

          347. Paul Smith says

            And I will reply – also very slowly – THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE 1ST AMENDMENT, PROTECTION OF MINORITIES AGAINST THE MAJORITY.

            As to xtians being the best people to be around, I spent over 65 years of my life around them (still do) and most of them are pretty normal, good people. Then there are the assholes and the ones who go to church on Sunday to repent for the sins they consciously broke during the week. Sorry, I’m not impressed.

            You BELIVE that he’s there but hundreds of millions of people in thousands of other religions across human time disagree with you. Choose wisely.

          348. ILoveAPBT's says

            All I know is this I live in America. So I don’t worry too much about what other people do around the world. And as far as “assholes” who go to church on Sunday and act like the devil the rest of the week. It’s really none of your business what others do and I’m just about positive that you’re in no position to judge anybody. “If” they do as you say you should pity them……not condemn them.

          349. AKLady says

            Exactly.

          350. AKLady says

            Every one of the world’s religions believe in a god.
            Some, believe in more than one.
            Your point is what, exactly?

          351. ILoveAPBT's says

            Yes but not the real one true God. And if I happen to believe there’s only one true God who am I hurting? It’s my opinion. Just like you I also have an opinion. Besides where did I say other religions don’t believe in A God? Show me one place where I said that. As usual you’re always spouting off at the mouth and don’t read or comprehend what you’re reading. And you said I put words in your mount. Look in the mirror, Whatever is looking back is also putting words in others mouths.

          352. AKLady says

            Exactly.

          353. AKLady says

            No, child, it is not now, nor has it ever been a Christian nation. The “secular Left,” is an all-purpose bogeyman guilty of many crimes, including denying the Christian-nation idea.

            Mumerous scholars, historians, lawyers, and judges have debunked the “Christian nation” myth. The Text of the Constitution Does Not Say the United States Is a Christian Nation.

            The Founders’ political beliefs would not have led them to support the Christian-nation idea. The Founders were not Christians – they were Deists and Unitarians.
            The most damning evidence of a non-Christian past is the 1797 treaty with the Barbary Pirates. That treaty clearly states, “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

          354. ILoveAPBT's says

            PROVE me wrong then! You keep spouting laws. Everyday people have “private” lives. Most in America ARE Christian they serve GOD the Alpha and the omega. Just because you don’t agree with that fact means NOTHING! I brought you facts and you’re so ignorant or hard headed (probably both) that you can’t even admit what Wikipedia said. You said earlier that you weren’t going away well guess what “Ignorant one” neither am I….LOL

          355. AKLady says

            So, sorry. I did not realize you confused primary religion with government structure.

          356. ILoveAPBT's says

            What???? “primary religion”…..Huh??? Where do you live? Under a rock someplace? Ooh…..that’s right your ID says “AK”…LOL…LOL…. you live under a rock in Alaska…..that’s says it all.

          357. Paul Smith says

            It’s a damn shame that the constitutional authors didn’t write ‘freedom of and protection against religion’.

          358. AKLady says

            Protection against what religion?
            The Constitution protevts me from your religion.
            The COnstitution protects your from a government designated religion.

          359. Paul Smith says

            I wish the government did a better job of that “protecting me from religion”.

          360. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Most students are so dumbed down that they think the colonists were Americans, which they most certainly NOT..they were British SUBJECTS who claimed that the King, George III were taxing them and being so much more overbearing to those who were living in the New Land than he was of the people living in Britain. So they had the Continental war, and they were still, even after the Declaration of Independence known as British Americans. George Washington sent a letter to the Hebrew Congregation that basically thanked them for their service and we put the menorah, the 12 candlesticks are of the Hebrews on our paper money that can still be seen today, with the 13th stick(which is there to light the others with) but also as a tribute for the 12 tribes of Judah. Washington says in this letter that religion was not as a gift of government or a matter of toleration, but as a natural right possessed by every human being. I doubt any Muslims would take to their own to go to a faraway land where their law forbids them from going to another country by themselves and into the infidels that the Koran admittedly says that this is one thing you do not do, and definitely at any rate do you go there to help infidels? With a BA in Education, another in History with a field minor in Historical Research and am almost finished with my second online course for my Politics degree, nope not a Muslim one. Instead, Washington praised the Hebrew Congregation in his response to a congratulatory note sent to him by a group of Jewish Americans. He said,”MAY THE CHILDREN OF THE STOCK OF ABRAHAM, WHO DWELL IN THIS LAND CONTINUE TO MERIT AND ENJOY THE GOOD WILL OF THE OTHER INHABITANTS; WHILE EVERYBODY WILL SIT IN SAFETY UNDER HIS OWN VINE AND FIGTREE, (SIC) AND THERE WILL BE NONE TO MAKE HIM AFRAID. MAY THE FATHER

            OF ALL MERCIES SCATTER LIGHT AND NOT DARKNESS IN OUR PATHS, AND MAKE US ALL IN OUR SEVERAL VOCATIONS USEFUL HERE, AND IN HIS OWN DUE TIME AND IN EVERY WAY EVERLASTING.” funny, I never heard of or have read of any praise of any Muslims. Although the British surely, during their conquests of different lands, especially that of India, may have had Muslim Indians fanning her as Queen Victoria shows herself, but a Muslim in the Continental army? As I am a researcher, I never put anything our without being able to source it from a credible source..what is yours? Funny, while a Progressive sat in the White House, and knowing about the wholesale slaughter of my people he got in a cable wire as early as 1937! And did nothing! Those are the Progressives, who while Wilson, ironically, had an event honoring Jefferson, said that in speaking of the Constitution, if you do not read the Preface, and consider the rest a history lesson, then that is what we have and it is impossible for us to get anything done. You wanna know what is in the Preface? IT IS ALL OF OUR RIGHTS FOR THE PROGRESSIVES BELIEVE JUST AS HITLER, MUSSOLINI, KHRUSHCHEV, PUTIN AND ALL OF THE OTHER TYRANTS, YOU CAN NOW ADD HILLARY CLINTON’S NAME IN THIS LIST ABOVE, AS HITLER:”Society must come before the individual.” HILLARY CLINTON: We must think of society first and afterwards the individuals.” See any difference here? I thought not. Happy Trails, for I live in the freest Republic in the nation: THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS P. Kathy Kleiman

          361. AKLady says

            The U.S. COnstitution says something entirely different.

          362. ILoveAPBT's says

            And I could care less. You say potatoe I say potato. I’m talking about people that are living today people we can poll and asks questions today not 200 plus years ago. Besides I’m sure there were just as many Christian believeing people back when the constitution was written. You’re just like the liberal thinkers in this country. When BO said we were no longer a Christian nation he was talking out his butt. He wasn’t speaking for everyone. Now liberal thinkers are throwing that saying out now ….If we’re a Christian nation it’s our place to take in all of those Syrian refugees. Whenever it’s convienant they’ll use whatever to get their way. You say all muslims aren’t terrorists and some are peaceful. Answer one question for me. How do we tell the terrorist from the non-terrorists? Listen lady (if in fact are a lady) self preservation is a very strong feeling. I’m sure there are things that you’re apprehensive about. Unless you’re not human. There is no way anyone can tell the terrorists from the rest. Do you really want to risk opening our borders up and let them all come in? Once they come in they’re free to do as they please.

          363. mac12sam12 says

            No they weren’t. The Jews in the Middle East were also there before the muslims. Christians are the majority in the US.

          364. AKLady says

            Self-imposed ignorance is so sad.
            Suggest you invest time in the study of U.S. History.
            Islam did not come to America by choice. It was brought here in chains.
            The first casualty of the American Revolution waa a Muslim an escaped slave by the name of Crispus Attucks,
            The first country to recognice our new Nation was Muslim — Morrocco.

          365. AKLady says

            Here in America, we capitalize proper nouns.
            Islam is the world’s second largest religion.
            Why do you believe it is proper to insult 23% of the global poulation?
            Christianity is only enspised by 31% of the roungly 6.9 billion of people on earth.

          366. mac12sam12 says

            obama, muslims dont deserve a capital letter. Islam is the most ass backward religion on earth the you apparently don’t know much about. Sharia law, women cannot go outside without wearing a burka and must be accompanied by at least one male relative. If they get raped, the woman must have 5 male witnesses to back up their story. otherwise they were asking for if. Honor killings, if you feel your daughter or wife has dishonored you, you may kill her. Female genital mutilation. These are dirty filthy people who still live in the stone age. I dare you to explore this site, your naiveté on islam is pathetic

            wwwbarenakedislam.com

          367. AKLady says

            Baby boy, get something streight in your head:
            Every country has the right to rule itself.

            Every individual has the right to choose their own religious faith.

            If you do not care for the limits imposed by Islam, I recommend you do not convert.

            Oh, and child, FGM takes place in many primative societies, which are not Muslim.

            Here in America, as is the case in much of the world, we practice male gental mutalatiion. Apparently, we also live in the stone age even though we have free access to knowledge and science.

            Your improper use of the English language embarasses America.

          368. ILoveAPBT's says

            “Straight” not streight.

          369. AKLady says

            Keep faking it.
            I’m not impressed.

          370. ILoveAPBT's says

            Wasn’t trying to impress you. That would be like trying to impress an environmentally retarded child 🙂

          371. AKLady says

            You become more immature with each post.
            Your isults are so childish.
            You are the retarded chld.

          372. ILoveAPBT's says

            See exactly what I’ve been saying to you all along. You have no thoughts of your own. All you keep doing is repeating what I say to you.

          373. AKLady says

            Your mother is calling.
            It is past your bed time.

          374. ILoveAPBT's says

            My mother is dead and has been for years 🙂

          375. AKLady says

            You think that stops her from telling you what to do?
            Ha ha ha ha
            The lessons your mother taught you will be with you until you die, and probably beyond. There is probably not a single day that goes by that yo do not remember her in some way.

          376. ILoveAPBT's says

            That’s another thing that I totally agree with you about. She was one of the best mothers on the planet. You know come to think of it you might have even liked her. She was a true Christian lady. Too bad there are very few people like he around. It’s also too bad that so many people today say they’re something that they have no concept of what they say they are. True Christian people do not harm or kill anyone. Anyone can and do say they’re “Christians” but it doesn’t make it so. While I do think of her daily and the things she taught me growing up she is dead. She doesn’t tell me anything. The dead can’t speak. But she is in my memories.

          377. AKLady says

            I must disagree with you.
            Those that leave their bodies, remain alive in our memories.
            Your mother speaks to you every day, the question is do your listen?

          378. ILoveAPBT's says

            You say potatoe I say potato……at the end of the day who cares?

          379. ILoveAPBT's says

            You speak of my comprehension skills being lacking. I said and I quote ” that my mother “is in my memories”. And you said ” she remains alive in my memories”….so who’s comprehensions skills are lacking now? 🙂 You’re so busy insulting anyone that doesn’t share your opinions you pay no attention to anything anybody says to you.

          380. ILoveAPBT's says

            You never learn do you? There you go again. You’re calling me childish and you’re the one that can’t spell any better than a 5 year old 🙂

          381. AKLady says

            You have nothing of vslue to teahc anyone.
            Keep spouting those childish insults.

          382. ILoveAPBT's says

            Huh? what are you trying to say? ” vslue to teahc” …….english please…..LOL

          383. AKLady says

            Little girl, watching you embarass yourself is painful.
            Thank you for bringing the typo to my attention.

          384. ILoveAPBT's says

            Still made no sense…..just like the rest of your comments 🙂

          385. mac12sam12 says

            Islam is an anti-women religion. You didn’t go to the link I gave you. My improper use of the English language? That’s a deflection from the fact that I’m correct in my assertions are you’re not. Would you like to compare educational backgrounds? Didn’t think so.

          386. AKLady says

            Religious hat is wrong.
            Are you a member if the American N.A.Z.I. Party?

          387. mac12sam12 says

            Nazi socialist sounds left wing to me. Do you know anything about sharia law? Nope!

          388. AKLady says

            I know a lot about religious law.
            You obviously do not.
            The American right-wing is fully engaged in an attempt to design American Sharia.

          389. Paul Smith says

            by ‘The American right’ you mean Obama?

          390. AKLady says

            No, the sexist, ignorant bigots who call themselve conservative.
            The ones who try to enforce their brand of American Sharia law.

          391. ROBERT says

            aklady muslimni66er lover, you bury yourself with every comment. America hates sharia law, can’t be used together. You seem to be an muslimni66er lover with every comment. give up your charade. Your like obumer, fake law degree, he gave up his license, he was too cheap to pay the $109.00 yearly fee. Besides he just wanted to know the U.S. law & its constitution to usurp it, out maneuver his opponents for his liberal mental disorder, pathetic agenda. Bigot? me? America? Conservatives fought the KKK-founded by Democrats!! your the fu**ing Bigot, muslimni66ar lover.

          392. AKLady says

            Grow up.

            You have no idea what you are talking about.

            KKK — extremist reactionary ideals such as white supremacy, white nationalism, and anti-immigration, historically expressed through terrorism aimed at groups or individuals.

            They call for the purification of American society, and all are considered a right wing extremist organizations. Here is a list of their related American terror organizations:

            The Army of God,
            The Defense Action,
            The Montana Freemen,
            The Covenant,
            The Sword,
            The Arm of the Lord,
            Hutaree Christian Militia,
            The Aryan Republican Army,
            The Phineas Priesthood,
            The Christian Identity Movement…

          393. ILoveAPBT's says

            😉

          394. Paul Smith says

            Your opinion of us is shallow and ignorant. I feel sorry for you.

          395. AKLady says

            You left out bigot?
            Why is that?
            Are you trying to enforce American Sharia?

          396. Paul Smith says

            I am a constitutional conservative. Sharia Law is incompatible with the Constitution. Get a clue.

          397. AKLady says

            Sharia is law based on religion.

            I guess you have not been paying much attention to the right-wing extremists who pose as “conservatives”.

            They are terrorists who ose as Cjristians. Here is a short list to start your education with:

            The Army of God,
            The Defense Action,
            The Montana Freemen,
            The Covenant,
            The Sword,
            The Arm of the Lord,
            Hutaree Christian Militia,
            The Aryan Republican Army,
            The Phineas Priesthood,
            The Christian Identity Movement…

          398. Paul Smith says

            You make my point. . .religion is dangerous.

          399. AKLady says

            Except your pont was Sharia.
            That list are American, terror groups.

          400. Paul Smith says

            My point was not pointed. Religion is dangerous.

          401. ROBERT says

            American left is Obumer, your a mislimni66er too. wow you must have the liberal lumber, coming out of the wood works, debbie wasserman schultz is calling all her muslimni66er loving paul smith & aklady to her web site, bye, hope your cliff is 1,000 ft high, so jump off it already, both of you.

          402. Paul Smith says

            I think you misinterpreted my question, Robert. Trust me, I’m not on the idiot’s side.

          403. ROBERT says

            Then answer the question, know of sharia law?? Avoid this question because your a muslimni66ar lover, and your really a muslime, rag head hack. your IP shows your location, & google shows your longitude & latitude coordinates, you need to watch your back here commenting dissenting remarks of anti conservative, anti Christian anything, esp. here on a conservative site. There isn’t any such religious law! islam is the law to muslimes, again proof that your a mislimni66er. !!!!!

          404. AKLady says

            sha·ri·a
            SHəˈrēə/
            noun
            noun: sharia; noun: shariah; noun: shariat
            Islamic canonical law based on the teachings of the Koran and the traditions of the Prophet (Hadith and Sunna), prescribing both religious and secular duties and sometimes retributive penalties for lawbreaking. It has generally been supplemented by legislation adapted to the conditions of the day, though the manner in which it should be applied in modern states is a subject of dispute between Islamic fundamentalists and modernists.

          405. Paul Smith says

            Is Sharia Law and Constitutional Law compatible?

          406. AKLady says

            Sharia is simply law based on religious beliefs.

            The Christian Right sure seems to think their religious dictates are COnstitutional

            You don’t agree with those “conservatives” ?

          407. Paul Smith says

            I do not. Both sides like to play fast and loose with the Constitution – I do not support that.

          408. ILoveAPBT's says

            Did you notice she can “copy and paste”. WOW I am impressed.

          409. AKLady says

            Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible is not the question.

            We are way beyond that. The real questions are:

            How many more of these laws do they want to impose?

            What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with their version“God’s law”?

          410. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            I wouldn’t trust a Republican as far as I could throw him/her. They were complicit in the coup in the first place, new his ideologies, his commie pinko fag friends and yet made no use of the information. I am a Constitutional Conservative Confederate Southern Rebel Republic of Texan. The NRCC, NRSC, NRC are all blood leeches asking for money to get this or that law passed, MY VOTE was the tickets to their jobs and they are giving us show votes to keep us in check and are voting the way their buddies in the Lobbyist’s office on K-Street. Defunding Planned Parenthood should have been a 100-0 vote. But + Trey Gowdy knows which way the wind is blowing and that he is going to spend the last few days, weeks, or maybe, if we are lucky a year with his family, even though he knows we need him in Washington as he and Cruz, Lee, Sessions, Cotton,. Lankford, Meadows are the only ones that I can think of who are good honest men, But the Republicans called our Firebrand from Texas every name in the book when he saw what was going on in Our the People’s House. Obama is holding over their heads a jihad so the Republicans are running scared and as Obama’s time lessens, he will become more and more dangerous. P. Kathy Kleiman, Oh, what do you bring to the table, Ma’am? YOu seem to know a lot without having anything to back you informations and knowledge up with.

          411. AKLady says

            I am an independent and now a resident of Alaska. Don’t know what part of Texas your are in, but you may of heard of a town named Hempstead. A member of my family and a doctor founded that town and bult the railroad to Austin. During the War, the Confederate prison was on our family land.

            Excellent Catholic educarion through graduate school. Child of military parents, served in miliary, buried two huband KIA Vietnam; husbnad #3 was active duty 30 years. lived all over the U.S., Europe and Asia ; four children, i died, 2 in Afghanistan, one safe stateside… is that enough bona fides?

            Obama is only a threat to the right-wing that wants to impose Christian Sharia Law in the U.S. Currently the target is Planned Parenthood. Next up will be reversing Roe v. Wade and making abortion illegal. No raise for Seniors or mikitary this year.

            Cruz is the son of Fidel Castro’s best friend. Like Rubio, he has repeatedly hoe lied about his parents left Cuba. His father did not apply to become an American citizen until Cruz began making it to the front page of the paper.

            We already have two Republican wars on the Mastee Card from the Bank of China 😉 Bush and his buddies made huge fortunes from those wars If the Repuvs get their way, we will have boots on the ground in Syria in the next ,onth or so, if not sooner.

          412. Paul Smith says

            You go girl!

          413. AKLady says

            Some of the Nazi Party demands, I think you will find they sound very familiar:

            Only Nationals (Volksgenossen) can be Citizens of the State. Only persons of German blood can be Nationals, regardless of religious affiliation. No Jew can therefore be a German National.

            Any person who is not a Citizen will be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be subject to legislation for Aliens.

            Only a Citizen is entitled to decide the leadership and laws of the State. We therefore demand that only Citizens may hold public office, regardless of whether it is a national, state or local office.

            Any further immigration of non-Germans is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after August 2, 1914, be forced to leave the Reich without delay.
            ….

          414. Paul Smith says

            I see no problem with any of that. Should I?

          415. AKLady says

            Well since ever one of those statements violate the U.S. COnstitution, yes, you should have a problem with it.

            How do you define “American blood” for citizenship?

            Everyone in this countru is an immigrant or the decentfent of an immigrant.

            Only the First People can claim to truely have “American” blood and they are treated wose than any other minority.

          416. ROBERT says

            wrong spelling indicates your a muslimeni66er.

          417. AKLady says

            Keep those insilts coming, bigot.
            Religious hate and bigotry, so beautiful to behold.

          418. Paul Smith says

            Actually, they do not. Citizens do have rights that non-citizens don’t share. Non-citizens are here as our guests and we have the right to send guests home.

          419. AKLady says

            Go back and read it a second time.
            More slowly, paying closer attention to detail.
            One is not an American by “blood”

          420. Paul Smith says

            One is a natural born citizen by blood and by soil. Both are required to prevent foreign influence.

          421. AKLady says

            Which blood might that be?

            The only “natural born citizen by blood” are the First People.
            The victims of “American” genocide.

            Even they came from somewhere else, but they did before the European murdering invaders arrived.

          422. Paul Smith says

            That comment shows ignorance of the law. Stick to your specialty.

          423. AKLady says

            Americans ae Hinz 57.
            There are no Americans by blood.

          424. Paul Smith says

            Twist to your heart’s content but we’ve still got the Constitution and the words of the founding fathers.

          425. AKLady says

            Funny thing, Paul, the “Constitution” does not define citizenship. The basic definition is found in the14th Amendment. American citizenship acquired at birth in a foreign nation is usually determined by the law that is in effect at the time the child is born. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, amended in 1965, 1976, and 1978, gives the requirements.

          426. Paul Smith says

            Not for natural born citizen it doesn’t.

          427. AKLady says

            A “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the last presidential election were born.

            An individual born to a U.S. citizen parent — whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone — is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the Electoral College so choses.

            Put it to rest, Obama is a natural bron citizen.

          428. ROBERT says

            islam isn’t a religious sect. Its a 1,400 year old make believe ideology of throwback men in prehistoric mindset. Pedophiles who have sex with 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 year old boy & girls!! Fact!! As reported by me in 1986. Afghanistan in 2011,’12,’13,’14 by troops stationed in bases there. Your an as* aklady fake hack, GTH.

          429. AKLady says

            Childish isnsults.
            Infantile foul language.
            Your ignorance of other wiorld cultures is immense.

            Robert, real men don’t have temper tantrum like babies do.

          430. ILoveAPBT's says

            And real educated women do not jump down others throats simply because they disagree with them. And real educated people can SPELL!

          431. AKLady says

            Your insults are simply evidence of our ignorance.
            With every one you make yourself look like a chikdish, ignorant fool.
            Woth each and every one you imbarass your country.
            Look up dyslexia.

          432. ILoveAPBT's says

            At least I CAN type AND spell….LOL You couldn’t spell shit if someone slapped you with a turd…LOLOLOLOLOLOL

          433. AKLady says

            No, you are so dumb you can’t recognize a typo, even if it slaps you in the face.
            You are so dumb, you can’t even look up dyslexia.

          434. ILoveAPBT's says

            “Dyslexia”- A learning disorder marked by the impairment of the ability to
            recognize and comprehend written words or symbols.

            I’ll bet you had to look dyslexia up just to know how to spell it…..LOL

          435. AKLady says

            “Dyslexia is a specific learning disability that is neurobiological in origin. It is characterized by difficulties with accurate and/or fluent word recognition and by poor spelling and decoding abilities. These difficulties typically result from a deficit in the phonological component of language that is often unexpected in relation to other cognitive abilities and the provision of effective classroom instruction. Secondary consequences may include problems in reading comprehension and reduced reading experience that can impede growth of vocabulary and background knowledge.”

          436. ILoveAPBT's says

            WOW you can “copy and paste” I am very impressed.

          437. AKLady says

            O’ll be impressed the day you enter quotation marks and cite the source.

          438. mac12sam12 says

            Speaking of religious hate, did you hear what the religion of peace did in Paris? Hundreds killed by suicide bombers, and many were gunned down. Whenever these creeps migrate to a country, they cause crime to go up. The muslims tell the citizens that their customs offend them and they harass people. They are also have problems with them in Sweden, Switzerland, Germany and France, and now he’s bringing those ass backward creeps to our shores. We will also see major terror attacks in the country, thanks to obama.

          439. AKLady says

            Speaking of religious hate, have you forgotten what these American terror groups have done? Christian terror gtoups:
            The Army of God,
            The Defense Action,
            The Montana Freemen,
            The Covenant,
            The Sword,
            The Arm of the Lord,
            The Hutaree Christian Militia,
            The Aryan Republican Army,
            The Phineas Priesthood,
            The Christian Identity Movement…
            Oh, let’s not forget the KKK.
            Let’s see, homegrown terroriss bomb medical clinics, murder doctors, drag black teens behind cars, hang nuces on trees outside of schools,
            There have been over 20 terror attacks in the U.S., committed by U.S. citizens between 2010 and present.

          440. ILoveAPBT's says

            Anyone can and do say they’re “Christians” it doesn’t make it so. I’m sure he does watch the news. At least he has enough common sense to know that just because someone says they’re Chrisitian doesn’t make it true 🙂 Unlike you he can “think” for himself 🙂

          441. AKLady says

            Have you considered the benefits that come to those who act like adults?

          442. ILoveAPBT's says

            Yes I do know so why don’t you show us how adult you can be? Oh, that’s right you aren’t capable of acting like an adult. You use facts when they suit your cause and then when someone says they’re Chrisitan you automatically believe they are. Only because you want to believe the worst inChristian people. Ok…..here goes…..I am a college professor and I teach Law in AK. See I can lie just like you can…LOL

          443. AKLady says

            You don’t lie worth a damn.
            Your don’t insult worth a damn either.
            Grow up.

          444. ILoveAPBT's says

            I
            don’t lie worth a damn? What is that suppose to mean? Quote ” your don’t insult
            worth a damn”. You’re constantly talking about how intelligent you are and yet
            your spelling is TERRIBLE not to mention you wouldn’t know the difference
            between a noun, pronoun or an preposition. Have you ever heard the term? Five
            Grammatical errors that make you look dumb? If you haven’t you need to read it.
            It would make you look as intelligent as you “think” you are. Really how do you
            expect anyone to take you seriously if you can’t use proper grammar and can’t
            spell? You say “it’s typos” and that you can’t type……really? “If” I were as
            educated as you “say” you are I’d take a few refresher courses in grammar
            🙂

          445. AKLady says

            Actually, you just think you know what you are talking about.
            In reality, you do not.

          446. ILoveAPBT's says

            I must know what I’m talking about or you wouldn’t continue to spar with me 🙂 Look at what you originally said. It only made sense to a 6 year old. So not only do you not know how to spell or type your articulating skills are lacking as well 🙂

          447. AKLady says

            You lie.
            I speak out against lies.
            I don’t “spar” with you.
            .
            Insult away, your ignorance speakes for itself, as does your bigotry.

          448. ILoveAPBT's says

            Yes you do 🙂 Most intelligent people that shout to the roof tops how smart and intelligent they are are usually are NOT. (or not half as intelligent as you “think” you are) If I’m so boring and dumb why do you keep coming back? You say I lie……well I happen to think that you do as well. Oh well I’m a waiting more of your unintelligent insults and childish remarks 🙂

          449. mac12sam12 says

            Never heard of any of them nor are they our current problem. You’re a muslim jihad apologist deflecting from the fact that islam is the most ass backward religion around. These primitive people have been inbreeding for thousands of years which accounts for the below average IQ. None has killed more people than radical islam, you utter moron.

          450. AKLady says

            I refuse to hate, so I am the emeny
            You have become a Nazi, condeming
            people for their religion — but somehow
            that is supposed to make you the good guy.
            The world is upside down.
            Over 100 killed in France,
            America and her allies killed innocent elderly, women and children —
            about 500,000 of them. Then people expect
            there should be no reaction?
            Where will this stop?
            How will it stop?

          451. ILoveAPBT's says

            No doubt about it. They are bringing it to American soil again. She has to be muslim. Anyone with half a brain would not want any part of that religion. Either that or she is not a real American 😉

          452. ILoveAPBT's says

            Are you missing the point of what “mac12sam12” is trying to tell you? Islam isn’t a religion that minds their own business. They kill infidels that do not believe as they believe. I personally respect all religions. If I had my way about it. Muslims that come to my country that can’t refrain from killing someone because they don’t believe is crazy!! They can pack their bags and go back where they came from. That is not what America is about. When it comes to harming someone because they don’t believe a line must be drawn. We cannot allow them to come here and kill innocent people. That in itself is bad enough. The way they treat women is horrible. They have no love or respect for anyone except the men. Everyone else is lower than a snakes belly. If you’re for Islam being the major religion in this country and “think” that it’s so grand I cannot wait to see your attitude or what you think after Sharia has been imposed after you live under their beliefs for a while. You’ll be crying the loudest. Especially when they come into your home and kill some of your loved ones.

          453. AKLady says

            Overwhelming ignorance.
            Too lazy to educate yourself.
            Christian Sharia remains just as nasty
            as Islam in some parts of the world.

          454. ILoveAPBT's says

            Ok you’re constantly throwing facts around in the past 100 years how many Christians have beheaded anyone on American soil for NOT having the same faith? I’m not talking about other countries because I cannot control what happens in another country.I’m talking about American soil.

          455. AKLady says

            Killing is killing, the method used is immaterial.

            Here are the countries who still have the death penalty – look at the company America keeps.

            Antigua and Barbuda
            Afghanistan
            Bangladesh
            Barbados
            Belarus
            Belize
            Botswana
            China
            Cuba
            Dominica
            Egypt
            Grenada
            Guatemala
            Guyana
            India
            Indonesia
            Iran
            Iraq
            Jamaica
            Japan
            Jordan
            Nigeria
            North Korea
            South Korea
            Lebanon
            Malaysia
            Pakistan
            Russia
            Saudi Arabia
            Singapore
            Somalia
            Sri Lanka
            St Kitts and Nevis
            St Lucia
            St Vincent and the Grenadines
            Syria
            Taiwan
            Tajikistan
            Thailand
            Tonga
            Trinidad and Tobago
            United Arab Emirates
            United States
            Vietnam
            Yemen

          456. ILoveAPBT's says

            And what’s wrong with the death penalty? Unless you’re a criminal you shouldn’t worry about it. Not every crime has the punishment that ends with someone being put to death. If you deliberately take a life you should be put to death.

          457. AKLady says

            A person wrongly convicted can be released from prison.
            The dead cannot be brought back to life.
            Suggest you visit The Innocense Project.
            http://www.innocenceproject.org/

          458. ILoveAPBT's says

            Apparently
            you’ve never had anyone deliberately murdered. Oh, and I have heard of the
            Innocence project. They are great by the way. And do great works.

          459. ILoveAPBT's says

            Define “Christian Sharia?”

          460. AKLady says

            Cristian Sharia poster girls: Decatur County Tennessee County Clerk Gwen Pope and two employees, Sharon Bell and Mickey Butler “It’s for the glory of God. He’s going to get all the glory,” There is another Christian Sharia member in Mississippi: Grenada County Circuit Clerk Linda Barnette.

            Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’ To some on the right, America is a “Christian nation”

            These so-called conservstives are pushing to pass laws based on the Bible. They demand that the “wall between church and state be torn down”.

            Christian terrorists muder doctors and bomb medical clinics — right here in the USA. They murder Sikhs in Oklahoma.

            A bill passed by Kansas’ House of Representatives that would allow people and businesses to deny services to same sex couples if it violated their “religious beliefs.” Similar bills are pending in other State’s including Mississippi, Idaho, and Arizona.

          461. ROBERT says

            POS, muslimni66ar lover, GTH, obumer brown noser, abstract news that makes no sense, hence your a muslimni66ar !!!!

          462. AKLady says

            How old are you? 8? 9?

          463. ILoveAPBT's says

            That’s because AMERICA IS a Christian nation. You keep arguing that point and you are WRONG! Why aren’t you mad about millions of babies being murdered each and every year in this country? Women that could be using contrcetives are using abortion as birth control. It’s too easy to get free help through most health depratments. And I won’t even say anything about selling those precious body parts that should not be sold like car parts. This country is so corrupt and greedy. There would be nothing wrong with the Bible being used to create laws to make people do the right thing.

          464. AKLady says

            “Judge not least thee be judged”…and found wanting. Matthew 7:1-3

            Selling body parts?
            You believe just about anything you are told, even outragious lies.

            Nothing wrong about government enforced religion? No, it would only be a violation of the Constitution…a violation of everything the Founders fought and died for.

            Butm hey, we are the Christian majority, the heck with the Constitution. We want our religious beliefs followed.

          465. ILoveAPBT's says

            You
            accuse me of believing everything I am told. That is the pot calling the kettle
            black. “Queen of the left”. Hey Queenie insult away I am laughing my butt off at
            you. You are so funny 🙂

          466. AKLady says

            No, the world is laughing at you.

          467. ILoveAPBT's says

            America is a Christian nation

          468. AKLady says

            Many Americans are Christian.
            However, the NATION is not.
            Freedom of rrligion is what the Founders fought and died for.

          469. ILoveAPBT's says

            You know I have tried to carry a civil conversation on with you. I’ve “tried” to show you proof such as the poll that was done in 2014 that stated 70% of Americans believe or are Christians. But like all through our conversations you really do not “listen”. I am sorry that you are so filled with hate. It must suck to be you. I’m sure back when you were teaching sunday school you believed that Christ is the son of God. I’m sorry that someone screwed you up so much that your comments are so jumbled that at times they make sense and others anyone can see that you are frustrated to the point that if you really admitted it you’d know you are confused. I’m not saying that I am right and you’re wrong. All I’m saying is you want to argue and be insulting just because others do not believe as you do. This conversation is over. It’s getting no where. I’m tired of the insults and the childish remarks that you started and how you are so much smarter than anyone one else. If you’ll look back I never said one unkind thing to you first.
            Oh and by the way you are correct about the founding fathers wanting ALL to have freedom of religion. Not your religion or any one religion. Those that do not agree with you are spoken to like you’re better than they are and are less intelligent than you are. For you to say that Christians are messed up and are being lied to is not fair. Who are you to judge anyone? They have as much right to their beliefs as you do. When my mother died something spiritual happened. If in fact and I say “if” she was wrong then that’s for her to deal with not you. She would have prayed for you. You aren’t fit to lick my mothers shoes. So like I said earlier this conversation is over. You can post all the insulting comments and I will not respond. I’ve had numerous people tell me that you’re a troll so I do not respond to trolls. Have a great life….or better yet why don’t you get a life?

          470. AKLady says

            Almost ever pist you make is based on hate.
            Please increase your reading comprehension.

          471. ILoveAPBT's says

            Oh,
            and by the way I’m not judging you I am disagreeing with you. If you don’t
            understand what that means I can tell you what it is and probably say it very
            slowly so you can understand the difference.

          472. AKLady says

            Go play the insult game with someone else.

          473. ILoveAPBT's says

            I’ll shut up when you do 🙂

          474. ROBERT says

            aklady your a muslimeni66ar lover, sharia law will rape you with 1,2,3,witnesses, won’t permit you to drive, loans with a bank paid back without interest. Can’t vote. F U muslimeni66are lover.

          475. AKLady says

            Why do you lie?
            Why do you publish your ignorance and bigotry for the world to see?
            You are an embarassment to America and everything it stands for.

          476. ILoveAPBT's says

            See there you go again. If you can’t come up with a good answer what’s the first thing you do? Start spouting childish insults. If you’ll go back and read all of our comments you were the first to sart the insults. Like I said “That’s the pot calling the kettle black”. You have no clue how educated I am. Sure I could say I’m this and I’m that. And guess what? Nobody cares……except you. You’re constanting spouting how many credits or degrees you have. Seriously you do not come across as anyone with as much education as you say you do. It’s apparent that must be all you have. You have no common sense. I pity anyone like you.

          477. AKLady says

            You need to stick your jead where the sun does not shine.

          478. ILoveAPBT's says

            What’s a “jead?” 🙂 I’ll tell you what I’ll stick my “jead” where the sun doesn’t shine if you’ll go crawl back under that rock you crawled out from under…LOL

          479. AKLady says

            Thank you for bringing the typo to my attention.

          480. ILoveAPBT's says

            You’re (you are) most welcome 🙂

          481. ILoveAPBT's says

            “Christian Sharia” is that something you’ve made up? When I Google that nothing comes up. Made up words don’t count. And when abortion cliinics are bombed by so called “Christians” that’s doesn’t prove anything. Andbody can say they’re what ever. True Christians don’t kill anyone. “Thou shalt not kill.” Remember one of the ten commandments? When you compare Christians to muslims that’s like comparing apples and oranges.

          482. AKLady says

            They nailed the last “true” Christian to a cross.
            You are so focused on the Middle East you ignore
            everything else happening in the world.
            Narrow tunnel vision.

          483. ILoveAPBT's says

            That is the first thing that you’ve written that makes any sense. Whether you believe it or not there are good Christian people in the world. You’re too focused on judging others that at least are trying to live a Christian life. No one is perfect the one and only true perfect Christian was nailed to a cross. Christ knows we cannot be perfect. And as far as me being too focused on the Middle East….you’d better be watching them……because with what happened in Paris Friday night is going to continue happening until someone puts a stop to it. I love spiritual people. Despite what you or anyone else thinks true Christians do not kill other people.

          484. AKLady says

            Really?
            True Christians do not kill?
            DIdn’t you say you served in a war zone?

          485. ILoveAPBT's says

            TRUE Christians don’t kill……..give me one name of a single CHRISTIAN that you actually saw kill someone. **Remember** just because someone says they are something doesn’t make it so 🙂

          486. ILoveAPBT's says

            When did I ever say I served in a war zone??????

          487. ROBERT says

            You aklady are a muslim, islam ni66erlover. Your IP shows through a google area map that your a hacker. Your actually an islamic, muslime ni66ar lover. Your a browned skinned hack.

          488. AKLady says

            Yolu are simply an ignorant bigot.
            An extremely childish one at that.

          489. Paul Smith says

            those who live in glass houses. . .

          490. ILoveAPBT's says

            She’s way too busy trying to convince everyone how smart she is…..LOL

          491. ROBERT says

            Fu** islam,muslimes,jihad,fu*k islam,islam,islam,islam islami66ers, islami66ers.

          492. AKLady says

            Get off thr drugs
            Get help for your psych issues.

          493. AKLady says

            Apparently, you assume the slaves brought here in chains had no religious faiths?

          494. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Assuredly, they did, but as they are doing in Ferguson is what got them into chains in the first place. I bring to the conversation a BA in Education another BA in History with a field minor in Historical Research, and finishing the first year for my BA in Politics(we do not call it Political Science). I used to work in this Alamo in the basement with all of the archives and have read some of the letters by black Confederate soldiers that apparently never made it home. While Northerners had to be threatened to be shot in order to fight with the blacks, the black Confederate infantryman’s letter I happened to have read, among others, but this meant the most to me. The man writing said it was a nice and quiet night and the while soldiers ventured over to the black camp and they began to teach them Confederate rally songs and in turn, the blacks taught them the Gospel songs they remembered from the fields. This man called that night a “perfect brotherhood.” A far cry from the Northern soldiers.For if 2% of the soldiers owned slaves, tell me what the other 98% were fighting for? But, in Africa, they did there the same as they are doing here, they fought over territory and the prisoners were sold to the ever-ready-to-buy DUTCH EAST INDIA COMPANY, which in no wise was an American company, as the last tribe was basking in the glory of their much coveted territory, now that they had it all, the Dutch East India Company came in and enslaved them! This is historical fact, Ma’am. And for the rest of the Tyrant Lincoln’s life, he tried to get them back to Africa with each person a brand new pair of shoes and $50 per family, as they had the documents as to where they had come from. But the war had cost so much, he couldn’t do it. And as the Northerners couldn’t stand the thought of living with the blacks, they began moving west. It all started with a little something called The Morel Tariff. Lincoln taxed the South 49% while the Northerners only had to pay a 7% tax. This was taxation without representation which, by the by, they had fought a war over. Lee, didn’t want to secede, but he was a Southerner by heart and we Southerners stand up for our ground. Lee, a great General, went to Appomattox without Davis knowing it and said,”this next battle coming up will cost 20,000 lives, on both sides. 200,000 dead already is enough! Actually the number was 600,000 and we down here in the South do not refer to it as the Civil War, but Lincoln’s war! He knew the that North could never make it without the South, for the Northerners were all for parties and dancing the nights away. Lee even voted for Grant as President. He also lived to the age of 84 and died in his bed. It is my opinion that the four greatest generals in modern times were Patton, MacArthur, Rommel and Lee. For if Hitler would have let Rommel have his way, they would have been waiting for our boys on the beaches of Normandy! So, I do not want to hear about those poor blacks and their few hundred years of slavery in the US. We Jewish people do not continually whine about the 500 yrs of slavery by the Egyptian Pharaohs, another 500 yrs in Iraq under Nebuchadnezzar, the persecution of Jews in Spain (with the expulsion of the Jews, their entire economic system failed) and then into Hitler’s hot ovens. We just say two words: “NEVER AGAIN!” P. Kathy Kleiman

          495. AKLady says

            In the deep South, the worst abuse of blacks was the presumtion that they were less intellegent than whites. They were frequently treated like children or mentally deficient.

            You studied a book in schoool.
            I lived it.

            It is obvious you have bever seen a sign the read “White Only”
            Then there were the white an dcolored water fountains, bathrooms, etc.

            I’ll never forget the old woman forced to give up her bus seat to a white man. Why, I was thrown off the bus for giving my seat to the woman.

          496. P. Kathy Kleiman says

            Then would you say, that being chained as most are with the DEMOCRATIC LIE OF THE CENTURY and you believed it. If you are unlucky enough to live in the Progressively held cities for over 100 yrs such as Baltimore, Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, then I am sure you are familiar with the “inner city.” When the Democrats said

          497. AKLady says

            Miwaukee, progressively held?
            You are seriously confused.
            Milwakee is the most divided, most bigotted city I have ever lived in.
            The Germans hate the Italians. The Italians hate the Jews. The Irish hate the Polish. On and on and on. Every one does agree on four hates — the Hispanics, Blacks, Asians.and American Indians.
            Yes, I am very familiar with how the “other” are segregated into slums I am also very familiar with the abject poverty of the rural South.

          498. Paul Smith says

            You confuse balkanization with segregation. You do know the difference?

          499. AKLady says

            LOL.
            Yes, Paul, I know the difference.
            I was born and raised in the Deep South.

            Do you remember the “whites only” signs?
            Do you remember when nonwhies had to sit in the back of the bus?
            Do you rember the seperate water fountains in stores?
            Seperate bathrooms?

          500. Paul Smith says

            Seriously?!? You’re that old? I guess I should have realized it, you do seem a bit senile.

          501. AKLady says

            Let me tell you a story that is typical of Mikwaukee — a true story.

            Milwaukee has big festivals at the lake shore every year. They begin with Summerfest, and go on to Italianfest, Germanfest… The only difference between the fests was the entertainment, music and food offered by the vendors. My husbands employee gave away free tickets.

            Our family was not going to be able to attend Italianfest, so I sent the itckets home to the family of my daughter’s boyfriend. I got a very nasty telephone call in which I was firmly told that no one in that family would be attending a fest where they had to rub elbows with greasy Italians.

            After three other such racist reactions from other families my children associated with, I gave the tickets ot charity. Oh, and my children were no longer permitted in those homes.

          502. ROBERT says

            Bla,blabla,bla,bla, muslimeni66er lover, gth.

          503. AKLady says

            Most children give up name calling by the 1st or 2nd grade.
            How old are you?
            Religious hate and bigotry — is it not beautiful to behold.

          504. Paul Smith says

            And this from a foul mouthed octogenarian. Seriously?

          505. AKLady says

            Are you really that ignorant?
            Seriously?
            Assume, assume, assume …

          506. ROBERT says

            You know how old I am, my words are mature enough for you to follow, you can’t spell,and you show signs that your not really an American, it is my right to Hate Islam/Muslimes. Islam isn’t a religion. So what, I am not here to impress you, don’t care about you, you a liar, flip flopper, obumer lover, Demonrat, socialist, liberal, who hates people that have a good life. So stay in your muslime loving world, and leave the rest of us majority conservatives alone, to extinguish ISIS, illegals, sanctuary cities. Don’t bother to reply, I’ll delete this article, as its too old anyway, just like you.

          507. AKLady says

            Play your ignorant insult game with someone else.

            As much as I woild like to help uoi make a fook of yourself before the world. it has been a long day.

          508. ROBERT says

            Again your spelling…woild?? uoi?? fook?? You have a habit to get away from the articles theme, and you make anti anything remarks, then it becomes all about you, your a pos, my days are always beautiful, not long, stay away . TRUMP 2016-24 No games here whoever your muslimeni66er lover is really.

          509. AKLady says

            We can have a conversaton,
            or you can insult.