Can Any Candidate Bridge the Divide?


On Thursday night, the divide between the various factions of the Republican electorate went beyond the musings of the pundits and crystallized into one of the most surprising moments of the election. The final GOP debate before Iowa, and the frontrunner was nowhere to be found. Instead, Donald Trump was blocks away, holding his own event in protest.

While Trump’s absence undoubtedly took a big chunk out of Fox News’s ratings and encouraged all the talking heads to declare this debate a bore, it actually lent a unique dynamic to the stage. Without Trump standing tall in the middle of the candidates, we saw surprisingly relatable moments from longshots like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie. But even though these candidates had a moment to shine, it’s getting harder than ever to see how they’ll ever attract Trump supporters to their team.

Likewise, how many Marco Rubio supporters are going to rally behind Trump if and when he secures the nomination? Is there any candidate, on the stage or off, who can unite these factions under one umbrella? Or has the divide widened to the point where no reconciliation is possible?

Right now, it seems that only one ticket could do the impossible: some combination of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. That ticket seems less likely today than it would have seemed a month ago, but it’s not unimaginable that these men would put their feud behind them for the good of the election. It’s easier to see Cruz being Trump’s running mate than vice-versa, but then again, it’s easier to see Trump winning this thing than Cruz. Cruz may take Iowa, but his numbers in the rest of the country are not promising.

The barrier to unity here isn’t Trump or Bush or their respective fans. The barrier is a divergent viewpoint on where the United States needs to be headed. Those who support Trump (and Cruz) think that the problems facing the U.S. go beyond conservatism vs. liberalism. They go beyond Barack Obama. They go straight to the heart of Washington D.C., where politicians are growing increasingly isolated from their constituents. In many ways, the same thirst for change is driving Trump and his counterpoint on the Democratic side, Sen. Bernie Sanders. The form of that change is drastically different, but the hatred for bought-and-paid-for politicians is identical.

Just as the Clinton campaign worries that Sanders supporters will stay home in November if she is nominated, Republicans are doubtlessly concerned that Trump supporters will do the same if the nominee turns out to be Rubio or Christie.

Hopefully, it won’t come to that. The idea of running another establishment guy is a dismal one, but it’s not nearly as nightmarish as letting the Democrats have another four years in the White House.

  1. MAHB001 says

    I challenge the notion that the “talking heads” declared last nights debate a bore without Trump….

    Quite the contrary, the debate was substantive and interesting for like minded Republicans.

    I also challenge the notion that Republicans can or will not unite around ANY one of the candidate, including those that were not on the prime time stage.

    I personally will vote for whomever is the Nominee. Male or Female.

    There really is only two choices.

    A vote for a democrat is a vote for socialism/communism
    (A non-vote will be used as a vote for socialism/communism.)

    A vote for a Republican is a vote for a chance at keeping our Constitution intact and keeping the United States free to follow Capitalism.

    1. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

      You are so right and i’ll vote for who ever is our candidate is man or woman REPUBLICAN PERIOD.

      1. tbrec63387 says

        I wouldn’t know, I didn’t watch it. But I did hear Geraldo on FOX this morning but all I can remember is blah blah blah blah

        1. buck Shot says

          I saw him this morning…… turned the channel immediately.

    2. ICorps says

      You are exactly the reason why those who run the Republican Party do not have to listen to you. For no matter what the Republican establishment does, you will vote to support it!

      Why then, should they pay any attention to you? Your vote is in the bag.

      And you are in deep denial if you believe that a vote for a “Republican” is anything more than a vote for a politician wearing a particular party hat. The Republicans swept the 2014 elections. Have you noticed our Constitution being more intact or capitalism gaining over socialism?

      What does it take for you to accept reality?

      1. MAHB001 says

        I think you are wrong…

        I believe Liberal Progressives have taken up key positions within the Republican Party.
        I believe that the Tea Party is far stronger than the polls and pundits let on.
        I believe the People of the Republican party are waking up to the corruption.
        I believe that the Republican establishment has been put on notice.
        I believe that the corrupt establishment is losing control of the Republican party.

        In short, I believe in the principles of Capitalism and the Constitution, and more importantly, I believe in the American Voters that support Constitution and Capitalism.

        There is a reason that since 2014 socialism has been winning.. Because people like Boehner who was a liberal progressive democrat and a traitor to the Republican cause was in charge of the party…

        We must root out this evil from the party, without throwing the baby out with the bath water…. It will take time, and the Silent Majority can no longer stay silent.

        This time around, my vote is for the Constitution and Capitalism…. It just so happens that the only way to save the United States, and the republic for which it stands, is to vote for a Republican….

        Go Tea Party!

        1. AKLady2015 says

          These Presidents did not recieve the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamine Harrison, George H.W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush (twice).

          Learn how your country actually works.

          We the People have never elected a President — the U.S. Constitution prohibits us from doing so.

          1. MAHB001 says

            This is how it works.
            Liberals control the MEDIA.
            Liberals feed the people two choices of who they have pre-selected.
            Then they play rock, paper, scissors.
            The MEDIA tells the people the chosen one wins by 52 to 48%

            easy Peasy,

            You don’t have a choice, Hillary has already been chosen for your side.

        2. Progressive Republican says

          There are no Liberal Progressives in the GOP.

          Try again.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Judging by your name, I would say you are lying…..

            Spies are worthless once they have been discovered…..

          2. Progressive Republican says

            This coming from one who claims that Liberal Progressives have taken up key positions within the Republican Party.


          3. MAHB001 says

            So my proof is Boehner and McConnell who have done nothing but support 0bama and his wishes….

            Pff,,,, You insults will not prove me wrong.. The emperor has no clothes, and Boehner and McConnell are Liberal Progressives in Republican clothing.

          4. Progressive Republican says

            You’ve made your claim. Now make your case.

          5. MAHB001 says

            Can you name something that Boehner and McConnell have done that has stopped any of 0bama’s actions?

            After all, We the People put them in there to stop 0bama and take our Country back.

          6. Progressive Republican says

            Asking me to prove you wrong is not you making your case.

            You made the accusations.

            Defend them.

          7. MAHB001 says

            Those that pretend to be asleep, can not be woken. There is gobs of evidence right in front of your eyes. In fact all of us can see that Boehner did nothing for Republicans, and everything for 0bama. You choose to not see it.

            I am not the one without credibility here. You are.

            So this is how LIFE works troll. Those without credibility have to prove their thoughts. So it is up to you to prove me wrong…

            Liberal Progressives are liars like 0bama. You no longer deserve the benefit of doubt.

          8. Reality Check says

            Gees you are low info.

            how about GUN CONTROL.
            Obama wanted THAT and did he get IT?

            Immigration Reform.
            Obama wanted THAT and did he get IT?
            How about the JOBS program he proposes at EVERY SOTU speech.

            I can go on ENDLESSLY, fool of the right.

            you are an embarrassment to cons

          9. MAHB001 says

            oh, please stop, you are going to make me cry… 0bama didn’t get his personal gestapo either, 0bama isn’t going to be emperor either…

          10. Reality Check says

            Gee fool of the right, YOU SAID that there were no examples of Obama not getting everything he wanted.
            lets look at what the moron said, shall we?

            “In fact all of us can see that Boehner did nothing for Republicans, and everything for 0bama.”

            wow man, sure looks to me like you were LYING and I proved that pretty easily.

            maybe it would time for the con to say,
            “I learned something today”

          11. MAHB001 says

            You sure are grasping for a win these days troll.

            When you consider that a win, you are pretty desperate.

          12. Reality Check says

            Yes fool, I consider proving once again that YOU LIE, a win.

          13. Progressive Republican says

            So you admit then to being a liar since you refuse to prove otherwise.

            Thought so. Good of you to admit it, if in so rounadabout a way.

          14. MAHB001 says

            I do not lie.

          15. Reality Check says

            I just proved you ARE.
            shall we post it again?

            sure why not.

            fool of the right,and I quote:

            “In fact all of us can see that Boehner did nothing for Republicans, and everything for 0bama.”

            so I said:

            how about GUN CONTROL.
            Obama wanted THAT and did he get IT?

            Immigration Reform.
            Obama wanted THAT and did he get IT?
            How about the JOBS program he proposes at EVERY SOTU speech.

            proving you WRONG.
            simple,even for you.

          16. MAHB001 says

            You really do have problems with English don’t you?

            Everything Boehner did he did for 0bama… Does not mean Boehner did everything that 0bama wanted….

          17. Reality Check says

            ya fool, that is not what you said.

            give it up

          18. MAHB001 says

            ya fool, that is not what you said.

            give it up.

          19. Progressive Republican says

            So you’re an idiot then.


          20. MAHB001 says

            so you are an idiot then.


          21. Progressive Republican says

            Copycat. And not even a very good one.

          22. Reality Check says

            is this guy just too lame to vote, or what?

          23. Progressive Republican says

            Tough call.

      2. Progressive Republican says

        Pulling his head out of his butt might be a good start.

        Don’t count on it.

      3. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

        Unfortunately a vote for a liberal, regardless of party, is a vote against America,

        1. Reality Check says

          BUT silly OLD MAN, the liberal pulled our ASSES out of the ditch the GW drove us INTO.

          Before Obama, we were losing 700,000 jobs per month
          After Obama, gaining 200,000 jobs per month

          Before Obama, GDP negative for a year
          After Obama, GDP became positive and now the best in the G-20

          Before Obama, DOW 6500
          After Obama, DOW 16,000

          so tell me old fart, WHY LIE all the time?

          1. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            I think it’s past time for you to get your oil changed. Only a total ignorant would come to a conservative website just to get a daily dose of ridicule. I would not waste good urine on you if you were aflame.

          2. Reality Check says

            BUT old fart.
            those are THE FACTS.

            GOP administration IMPLODED the economy, Dem administration SAVED the economy.

            you think the DOW in jan of 2009 can’t be looked up?

            YOU are a TRAITOR to your country.

            hey, I would gladly pee on you if you were on fire.
            see who is smarter?

        2. Reality Check says

          Oh, and here is Fox news also telling you that You are Not too bright.

          “U.S. Economy ‘Lone Bright Spot,’ as Global Outlook Getting ‘Worse’”

          The World Bank is telling us… the U.S. economy is the only bright spot for global growth.

          Sounds like the United States is lucky Obama chose this path or we would be suffering like Germany that is on the edge of recession

    3. AKLady2015 says

      Prime example of the reason America is no longer #1 in the world.

      Prime example of American ignorance — someone who does not know the difference between Communism and Soicialism.

      Prime example of someone who thinks We the People elect a President. I wonder if he even knows how the Electoral College menber of his state is selected.

      1. MAHB001 says

        More insults? When are you going to contribute to the conversation?

        There is NO difference between socialism and Communism…. Because as long as EVIL is on this earth, socialism will always lead directly to Communism…

        See how liberals are doing everything they know to spread evil on earth through lies and deceptions, they are not attempting to get to socialism… Their intent is communism.

        We the People USED to elect Presidents, but now a few elite liberals play rock, paper, scissors, and tell us who they chose. The rest like you, are just useful idiots.

        1. Reality Check says

          “There is NO difference between socialism and Communism”

          just more proof you are an idiot.

          1. MAHB001 says

            That is all the further you read eh? That is part of your ideological subversion bubbling up.

            Normal people read the entire paragraph.

          2. Reality Check says

            like your silly “theory” has changed in the past week?

            you post this shit EVERYDAY.

          3. MAHB001 says

            And like I have said, you are a demoralized cupcake and incapable of understanding…

        2. Reality Check says

          “See how liberals are doing everything they know to spread evil on earth through lies and deceptions, they are not attempting to get to socialism… Their intent is communism.”

          I love the way the idiot who can barely post anything that is not an outright LIE, thinks HE knows what liberals are thinking.

          Just because you think something is “evil”, does not make IT SO.

          silly con.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Still unable to see the truth even though mountains of evidence is placed in front of you…

            That is ideological subversion..


          2. ringostarr1 says

            Who’s political party is he Bezmenov describing, your’s or Reality Check’s?

          3. MAHB001 says

            He is describing the indoctrination that Reality Check has gone through.

            Communists have been infiltrating American Society since the end of WW1. Yuri describes what the KGB was focusing on, which is a form of brainwashing called, Ideological subversion.

            They are applying this to all Americans that they can, it is designed to break down our strength and divide us.

          4. ringostarr1 says

            There you go again. Communist have been infiltrating America back before John Freemont hired Karl Marks as his European Foreign Correspondent for THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS. Furthermore several early Communist were appointed by Abraham Lincoln to serve in the Union Army. These early Marxists include both Friedrich ‘Fritz’ Anneke and Union General Johann August Ernst von Willich, from Ohio courtesy of the Atlantic Ocean among others.

          5. MAHB001 says

            OK, does any of those facts change what I said?

          6. ringostarr1 says

            No, but get the time line right. The Russians adopted Communism but then realized that Marxists Leninism was a good front for Colonial Expansionism and the rest is history, written across the face of Eastern Europe in the blood of the population..

          7. MAHB001 says

            Thank you, I learned something today.

          8. Reality Check says

            It was SO appealing to the masses that they only had to use huge WALLS and barbed wire to keep the people from flocking there from other countries.

            why is the idea that we are marching to communism, such a hot topic for the low info crowd, considering it was such a complete failure?

            you just don’t have the imagination to come up with something more original?

            or just counting on the “stupid” of the right wing folk, to lap up the “tried and true” commie bullshit from the 50’s?

      2. ringostarr1 says

        AKLady2015, is it snowing this afternoon in St. Petersburg, Russia?

  2. Valor says

    A bigger question is can any candidate save this country at this point? With a People that would elect the likes of Obama, twice, even consider the likes of Hillary or Sanders, and is so far off the rails with an out of control government, turning this country around at this point will be a very daunting task. Not sure any mere mortal can do that. History isn’t encouraging.

    1. MAHB001 says

      I still believe in the American people…. Color me an optimist.

      If anybody can recover from an attack from within, it will be the American people…

      1. Reality Check says

        “If anybody can recover from an attack from within, it will be the American people.”

        as soon as we can get you brainwashed fools to snap out of it.

    2. Croco Dile says

      The country is beyound the point of no return.
      Also there is no Superman who can “save” it. The demoralization and degeneration of the masses is too great…..

      Ferdinand Lundberg wrote this about the masses in 1968 (!) :

      We should find a meaningful term for the masses with reference to their inadequacies of judgment. I propose, therefore, that they be regarded, in varying degrees, as handicapped, crippled, unable to make sound judgments and decisions in their own self-interest. They live blindly in a system that offers wide although not unlimited free choice and they are unable to choose wisely. They are victims of their own choices. Nobody protects them from themselves ! The masses are handicapped in that they are ready believers in tales and promises of nimbler wits, prone to give credence to the improbable or very doubtful. They believe that some obvious charlatan – a preacher, a politician, a vendor of cheap merchandise – is going to do something very good for them at only a slight fee or absolutely free. At their most extreme these people are the followers of astrologers, spiritualists, religious dervishes and messiahs of all kinds, very often political messiahs. They tend strongly to resist whatever is objectively the case if it does not harmonize with their delusions.

      Gullibility and muddle-headedness are functions of insufficient intelligence. The intelligent person is prone to make significant distinctions, to analyze, compare, reflect and seek out difficulties in proffered propositions whether flattering or promising to himself or not. Skeptical self-analysis is beyond the powers of the gullible because they already feel insecure, must (as they say) “believe in something” if only in believing. Intimations of any lack in their judgment are resisted. Hence it follows that they believe whatever ethnic, religious or national group to which they belong is inherently superlative. Having little sense of individual identity, they derive their identity from some extensive tribe – hence White Supremacy, Black Power, God-Jesus, Dallas Cowboys, etc.

      While all men may have been created equal, whatever that means, what strikes the most casual observer is their disparity of age, circumstance, capability and condition. And, considering people in general with respect to their judgmental powers, what is most unequal about them is their intelligence.

      1. boucle says

        Yes, but remember the choices were the cool UNKNOWN FOREIGN black guy or crazy arrogant WARMONGER john mccain with the plastic wife. Common sense prevailed and we took a chance and lost the country. Unless it brought out Trump supporters and nationalism to save it. We’ll see. If it’s Bush or Rubio I’ll vote for Bernie. Sorry, I’m anti war and anti muslim/mexican invasion and hate the tyranny of the big banks, etc who got bailed out.

        1. MAHB001 says

          A vote for Bernie is a vote for socialism… Which is a vote for communism.

          Socialism will fall to communism because mankind is too corrupt to create socialism. That is why there are no PURE socialists societies. The Omnipotent one that is supposed to guide the society into pure socialism ALWAYS gets corrupted by the power they have.

          A vote for Bush or Rubio would still be a vote for a shot at keeping our Constitution and the Republic intact.

        2. Croco Dile says

          Too bad those banks own most politicians and by extension the country.

          No Supermen there to save anything.

        3. Reality Check says

          What Muslim Invasion?
          What Mexican invasion.

          Obviously you are a brainwashed drone of the right.
          confusing that you then say Bernie’s name mind you.
          perhaps just an idol threat.

          “America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago (see article); nearly 2million so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president. Border patrol agents no longer just patrol the border; they scour the country for illegals to eject. The deportation machine costs more than all other areas of federal criminal law-enforcement combined. It tears families apart and impoverishes America.”

          maybe you can link me to something to prove you’re not a tool of the right wing propaganda?

          oh, and as for Muslims, 10,000 a year is only an invasion to the moronic right wing.

          1. boucle says

            You will see and if you are a citizen not brainwashed by commie professors and mainstream media, you will wake up to the conquest and destruction obama is doing to the country. Too bad you weren’t a victim in San Bernadino, or victimized by MS 13. No one is being deported, criminals are let loose to kill, rape, and steal because they are barry’s people.

          2. Reality Check says

            “You will wake up to the conquest and destruction obama is doing to the country.

            BUT too hard for you to put into words?

          3. Reality Check says

            “No one is being deported, criminals are let loose to kill, rape, and steal because they are barry’s people”

            I didn’t need more evidence that you are not too bright.

          4. boucle says

            I suggest you read the comment section for that Economist article you cited. You may learn something and not believe all the lies in the article.

      2. Reality Check says

        “The country is beyound the point of no return”

        Where is my Violin??

        I think the fool of the Right needs a reality check AGAIN.

        Before Obama, we were losing 700,000 jobs per month
        After Obama, gaining 200,000 jobs per month

        Before Obama, GDP negative for a year
        After Obama, GDP became positive and now the best in the G-20

        Before Obama, DOW 6500
        After Obama, DOW 16,000

        are we WAY BETTER OFF?
        HELL YES moron of the right.

        1. Croco Dile says


          The next poor victim of the propaganda machine. LOL
          You sure believe Jesus loves you ! LOL

          1. Reality Check says

            What the debt has to do with the above stats, just adds more evidence to the notion that you are not too bright.

            So lets examine the Debt for the moron of the right, shall we?

            Reagan was the first to TRIPLE the national debt.
            then Bush One DOUBLED the national debt YET AGAIN.

            then Clinton did a little damage and even left GW a SURPLUS.

            then Bush TWO added 76% MORE to the debt
            WHILE giving out a 1.7 TRILLION tax cut (now part of the debt)
            starting TWO wars that Obama had to pay for
            pushing through the Big Pharma bonus of ONE TRILLION in unpaid for bills that Obama had to pay for.

            Bush the moron also gets credit for the first 1.4 trillion on Obama’ tab since that was a GW Bush administration budget.

            so moron of the right, without the GOP we would have a very small national debt.

          2. Croco Dile says

            Right, stupid !
            ALL of them are (were) playing for THE SAME team.

            But you idiot halucinate there are different teams playing each other and YOUR team is the good one “fighting” the “bad” team.

            What a moron you are, stupid ! Check !

          3. Reality Check says

            the FOOL thinks they are the same?

            Lets see, for ONE, the GOP vote to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            the GOP let children starve. BIG DIFFERENCE..

            do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.

            the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            The GOP cut funding for the VA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            The GOP cut funding for the poor. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            so the big question IS, who the hell tells you this bullshit and why are you so ILL INFORMED as to believe IT?

            LOVE to hear some similarities, other than the influence of MONEY.

          4. Croco Dile says

            All of them are marching the same direction, fool !
            Left, right, left, right, left, right………

          5. Reality Check says

            wow, such an intellectual response.

    3. Reality Check says

      Well, you are obviously and idiot so..

      our country need turning around after GW left and we were LOOSING 700,000 jobs a MONTH.

      1. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

        Loosing or losing? You really prove your lack of education every time you post your drivel.

        1. Reality Check says

          people who go after grammar and spelling just prove they have NOTHING.

          has the con noticed how BAD his conservatives brethren’s grammar and spelling IS?
          that must keep you busy.

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  3. kotoc says

    Just so long as it isn’t a Democrat in office for the next 4 years, I’ll be a happy camper. The Democrats holding ANY of the government offices are too far leaning toward Socialism. Our only logical choice would be to back Trump or Cruz, and I think it will be a close race between the two, but God help us if we end up with Clinton or Sanders.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Maybe you should learn the difference betqeen Socialism and Communism.

      Are you aware that the parts of U.S.have infant & maternal death rates that equal and/or exceed those of many third-world countries?

      Are you aware that America is the only modern, industrialized country that lets people die just becaise they cannot afford to buy medical care?

      Trump and his Daddy are slum lords.
      Cruz is the child of Fidel Castro’s life-long friend and supporter — who only recently became an American citizen. By the way,holds Cuban as well as Canadian citizenship.

      1. Progressive Republican says

        Don’t hold your breath. Stupid is as stupid votes GOP.

      2. MAHB001 says

        Maybe you should realize that history shows that socialism always falls to a form of communism…. Or maybe prove otherwise.
        socialism = communism.

        1. Reality Check says

          “Maybe you should realize that history shows that socialism always falls to a form of communism”

          STOP LYING.

          First off moron, there is NO such thing as a “socialist country”

          secondly there has never been a “socialist country” that then went communist.

          the IDIOT MAHB001 likes to pretend that Russia “thought” it was going to be socialist and got “duped”.

          sorry tool of the right, that does not prove your “theory” that socialist countries go commie.

          HOW ABOUT all the commie countries that IMPLODED and went capitalist, like China and Russia?

          1. MAHB001 says

            “First off moron, there is NO such thing as a “socialist country””

            Good Lord, you just proved my point….

            And why are there no socialist countries? Because they never get past Communism…… Your communist idols of Lenin and Stalin used to call the socialists useful idiots…

            You are the useful idiot of today…. If you think that Russia and China are open Capitalist societies, you really are hopeless.

            But, please keep posting, you are doing a great job of proving me right.

          2. Reality Check says

            “if you think that Russia and China are open Capitalist societies,”

            First off fool, even the US is not “open”.
            and YES China and Russia are practicing capitalism.

            and YES their “communist” experiments FAILED miserably

          3. MAHB001 says

            And if you like your Dr. you can keep your dr…..

            We all know how careful you check your reality.

          4. Reality Check says

            so when faced with Facts than prove you an idiot, the con just jumps to some other topic?

          5. MAHB001 says

            You have not produced any facts…. Face it.

  4. DustyFae says

    I think Trump can help to get us back to the not being as racist … His crowd has all races believing in him…

    1. Deby says

      agree with your first statement, but the dumbocrats sure don’t as they are continually calling Trump AND his supporters racist, misogynist’s, is the msm , and the libtard reality show with the most rabid liberal women (I use the term loosely) ever –called The View. If the sheeple keep lapping up what the media is spoon-feeding them daily, who knows the outcome.

      1. Reality Check says

        you fools lap up the shit the right wing Propaganda tell you.

        no difference.

        at least liberal shows don’t make up their own facts, like the right does.

        1. Tiger says

          Sure that is why Hillary is about to be indicted on Criminal Charges and you libs left with an old Socialist and one Progressive.

          If it were not for lies Liberals couldn’t open their mouths.

          Ask O.

          1. Reality Check says

            “Hillary is about to be indicted on Criminal Charges”
            so what is it, TWO years you fools have been saying this shit?

            with Hillary gone Bernie will sweep to easy WH victory.

            once again a BROKEN LINK from the right wing nut job.

          2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Can’t you find anything as expressive w/o having to use liberal profanity, the refuge of the uneducated?

          3. Tiger says

            Learned long ago no amount of sources would be accepted by him. He is just like Liberals across the net. Insult, insult and call names.

          4. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            I could not agree more. I do not go to liberal sites as I’m afraid my brain might rot like theirs, and I usually enjoy attacking them back just for sport, but then I feel bad for letting them drag me down to their level.

          5. Tiger says

            And the saddest thing I have experienced for being upset with FOX and Kelly and O’Rielly is that those whose side I am on attacked me with that same fierce and ugly talk. I suppose it works both ways cause now I have experienced it.

            I still watch those I trust on FOX but have leaned on the International news for years.

          6. Reality Check says

            “but have leaned on the International news for years”

            too funny (and a lie)

            YOU didn’t learn that there were “WMD” in Iraq from foreign papers, brainwashed con.
            that is strictly a US right Wing TALKING POINT.

            you PARROT the right Wing CONSTANTLY

          7. Tiger says

            Go stick your head back up your backside.

          8. Reality Check says

            I am SO sorry that the truth hurts you so much.

            maybe you will stop LYING.

          9. Reality Check says

            You are afraid of the FACTS , old man.

          10. Reality Check says

            your idea of a “source” is a blog from some guys basement, silly human.

          11. Reality Check says

            well old man, you low info voters just IRK me the wrong way.

          12. Tiger says

            You and your ilk are the fools that the world sees and by the way the International community is very concerned about these elections they had their fill of O.

            Why don’t you crawl back in the dark hole you keep your head.

          13. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            I think he tries to crawl back in, but they keep puking him back out.

          14. Tiger says

            LOLOL kinda like a Old Faithful in Yellowstone.

          15. Reality Check says

            did you fix your link to Obama’s “lies”.

            can’t wait to research them and show you how big a brainwashed right wing nut job you are.

          16. Tiger says

            Didn’t have to fix it works very well and if you are unaware of the list of lies that is your problem.

            The “Informed” voters know.

          17. Reality Check says

            I tried it just a few minutes ago.
            still broken.

          18. Reality Check says

            so these are you “lies” that Obama tells?

            4) Has close ties to Wall St., but pretends to support Occupy Wall St.

            well I would be the FIRST to point out that Obama is a Wall street guy, kind of WHY it’s moronic of you right wing to say he is a socialist.

            THEN we have the fact that, if THIS is your example of lies, then you ARE a moron.

            that is not even an example of treason or any other “evil” deed.

            this is just YOU fools of the right TRYING Real HARD

          19. Reality Check says

            “You and your ilk are the fools that the world sees”

            How silly you are. especially while pretending to be informed and “well read”.

            “A new paper by Sondre Båtstrand studies the climate-change positions of electoral manifestos for the conservative parties in nine democracies, and finds the GOP truly stands apart.
            Opposition to any mitigation of greenhouse-gas emissions, he finds, “is only the case with the U.S. Republican Party, and hence not representative of conservative parties as a party family.”

            For instance, the Swedish conservative party “stresses the necessity of international cooperation and binding treaties to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, with the European Union and emissions trading as essentials.”

            Okay, you might say, that’s just Sweden.

            But all of the other non-American conservative platforms follow similar themes.

            Germany’s conservative platform declares, “[C]limate change threatens the very foundations of our existence and the chances of development of the next generations.”

            Canada’s, writes Båtstrand, “presents both past and future measures on climate change. The past measures are regulations on electricity production, research and development on clean energy (including carbon capture and storage), and international cooperation and agreements including support for adaptation in developing countries.”

            Even coal-rich Australia has a conservative party that endorses action to limit climate change. All of this is to suggest that the influence of the fossil-fuel industry alone cannot explain the right’s brick-wall opposition to any steps to reduce emissions within the United States.

            Oil in Canada and coal in Australia both account for a far larger share of their countries’ economies (which are less than a tenth as large as the U.S. economy) than any fossil-fuel reserves in the United States.


          20. Tiger says

            I suppose that you are totally unaware of the thousands of scientists across the world who don’t agree and that many have said so to the UN.

            No Climate Change is nothing more than a way to get the world’s countries to give to the Third World Countries. You won’t win this one.

            Ottmar Edenhofer was the co-chair of Working Group III of the International governmental Panel on the 2010 UN Climate Change Conference held in Cancun, Mexico. This is what he said look it up:
            “One must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy……One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.” What about that do you not understand that the rest of us do?

            Also it will be the UN collecting the monies, raised through taxation of the countries who sign on and redistributing it. For years the UN has sought to control the world’s, guns, seas and collect money for redistribution of wealth.

            America a Sovereign nation who up until Obama refused to give into the UN. When a new president comes into office America will keep her Sovereignty.

          21. Reality Check says

            “I suppose that you are totally unaware of the thousands of scientists across the world who don’t agree and that many have said so to the UN.”

            you think I am a con or something?

            so link me to them and then we will SEE that they are physicists and chemists and ANYTHING BUT a climatologist.

            so let SEE who they ARE, shall we?

            or you afraid your silliness will be exposed?

          22. Reality Check says

            Has the fool of the right any idea how many times THAT silly thing has been brought up?

            “The “report” to which Palmer referred was actually a series of blog posts, written by climate change denier Paul Homewood, which were then highly publicized in two stories by Christopher Booker in the Daily Telegraph in London. Both writers focused on the adjustments made to temperature readings at certain monitoring stations around the world, and claimed that those adjustments throw the entire science of global warming into question. This is not at all the case, and those adjustments are a normal and important part of climate science.

            The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the U.S. agency responsible for monitoring national and global temperature trends, has addressed these types of adjustments several times before. NOAA addresses the subject in a Q&A on its website:


          23. Reality Check says

            “Another paper, from 2010, looked into the siting of U.S. monitoring stations in particular, and again found no problem with the homogenization methods. “[T]he adjusted [U.S. Historical Climatology Network] temperatures are extremely well aligned with recent measurements. … In summary, we find no evidence that the [conterminous United States] average temperature trends are inflated due to poor station siting.”


          24. Reality Check says

            “Berkeley Earth, a climate science nonprofit founded in early 2010 by scientists expressing skepticism at the time about global warming, has also found no undue manipulation of temperature data in its own analyses. Its page specifically on the Paraguayan Puerto Casado station that Homewood mentioned shows the adjusted readings do in fact show a rise in temperature over time.”


          25. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Don’t you think that Depends should use a picture of Mrs Clinton and Crazy Bernie in an advertisement?

          26. Tiger says

            They would be deemed totally inappropriate even though good idea.

        2. Deby says

          Msm is mostly fiction – there’s your Fact

          1. Reality Check says

            Oh that must be why ALL the GOP candidates FLOCK to them everyday, because they know they distort the news.

            Right silly human of the right wing.
            you guys will believe anything.

          2. Deby says

            LOL I Believe you are retarded RC and there is another FACT.

          3. Reality Check says

            Oh, tell me what I said that was in error?

          4. Deby says

            Ok, I’m gonna go with, Everything you post? If anyone is “brainwashed” and “stupid” oh and your fav-a “fool” -it is you RC -go play among your other liberal trolls now, and quit disrupting good discussions with your namecalling-which, ok, you are semi-good at.

          5. Reality Check says

            Good discussions?

            all you fools do is preach to the choir of ignorant brainwashed cons.

            I love the way you completely disregard the MSM post that I was responding to.

            when bested by the liberal, Ignore IT.

          6. Deby says

            ok here it is-I completely disregard YOU-troll boy, and puhleese, you never best ANYBODY, except in your small little world. Just go away.

          7. Reality Check says

            stop lying and I will leave your confused intellect alone.

        3. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

          Sure sign of the immature liberal is the use of profanity for emphasis. Intelligent people can find nouns and verbs instead. You can’t be more than 14 as far as mental maturity is concerned.

          1. Reality Check says

            shit is profanity?

            shit is actually a very adequate synonym for the Propaganda of the right wing.

            So after Nam, you became a Nun?

          2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            I am contemplating what your worst character flaw. Being an ignorant asshole or a complete moron. Probably both. Did your mother actually give birth to any children that had workable brains?

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Trump and his Daddy were slumlords.
      He is about as racist as they come.

      1. boucle says

        No, obama, michelle, holder, Farrakan, Lynch, Sharpton, Jada, LaRaza, and CAIR are the racists. Trump gets along with everyone

        1. Reality Check says

          is that why he calls Hispanics rapists and drug dealers?

          and why Hispanics, Blacks and women HATE HIM?

          1. boucle says

            Women and blacks know he’s great and will save the country. Only mexican illegals, criminals and gangs fear him with good reason. He will protect our country from them. Adios.

          2. Reality Check says

            you must be brain dead.

          3. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Coming from you that’s really rich. ROTFLMAO!

          4. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Probably based on actual crime statistics. You know, REALITY! You’re a dope!

  5. Charles Chip Jones says

    Personally I feel both parties are united on the One World Government and the bickering is about how fast we get there.Democrats want it now and Republicans want it to come gradually.

    1. Progressive Republican says

      Is that why so many Democrats are against the TPP while so many Republicans are in favor of it?

      1. MAHB001 says

        Who understands the TPP? The TPP is just another divisive tool. 0bama wanted it, so it can’t be good.

    2. Reality Check says

      99% of the the GOP voted for the TPP while only 25% of the Dems.
      so lets STOP LYING and face facts.

      YOU vote for the group selling the US out.

      1. Charles Chip Jones says

        Who do you feel I’m voting for? I can tell you it will not be an establishment candidate,beyond that I don’t even know yet

        1. Reality Check says

          ANYONE on that stage is a pawn of the Oligarchy.

          they are NOT going to let Trump run.
          MORE proof the GOP are bought and paid for.

          1. Charles Chip Jones says

            so true,all paid for, quit being a Republican about 8 years ago after being one for over 50 years as a matter of fact am not a part of anything organized any longer.Organizations make laws or by laws thus trying to put restrictions on what one believes or gives preferential treatment to one over another.Thus you now have more insight into what I believe.

          2. Reality Check says

            Time to become a Bernie guy.

            Bernie is the man to bring the country together.

            and he has an impeccable pedigree beside being pro gun.

            he has held the same “positions” for the past 30 years.

            AND voted no on:

            Repeal of Glass Steagul

            the Patriot act

            The First Iraq invasion

            The Second Iraq invasion



          3. Charles Chip Jones says

            Will never vote Socialist or communist which ever you want to call him, do not believe in give-a-way programs. if you don’t earn it you don’t deserve it. Had to work to go to college,to eat,to pay for a roof over my head, and to provide for the children I sired

          4. Reality Check says

            well since Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, you have nothing to fear.

            you seem caught up in your brainwashing, even though you pretend to be an independent.

            Social Security is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicare is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicaid is Democratic Socialism

            Post Office are Democratic Socialism. (and in the Constitution)

            The US highway system is Democratic Socialism (and in the Constitution)

            our electric grid is Democratic Socialism

            Public Utilities are Democratic Socialism

            shall I go on?

            as you see Democratic Socialism is what you LIVE IN.

            the brainwashing is what tells you “socialism bad”
            did it say why?

            northern EU countries are considered the BEST places to live and DO BUSINESS by conservative news magazine Forbes.


          5. Charles Chip Jones says

            So we agree to disagree.Tried my best to opt out of SS under Reagan but Congress would not hear of it,and to think that the government can run anything right is totally obsurd, Obamacare is still costing me, I detest government or anything organized for that matter. All laws are made to give one and advantage over another

          6. Reality Check says

            well there is NO such thing as “pure” capitalism and “free market”
            that is a pipe dream of the rich.
            Somalia is close.
            you want to live there?

            so the fact that a Conservative economic magazines says YOU are MISTAKEN, you have no comment about?

            just the usual Obamacare whining?

            “I detest government or anything organized ”

            Yet you drive on roads and use pubic services all maintained by the Government.

            “All loaws are made to give one and advantage over”
            Oh and you are against laws too I see.

            you live in the wrong country it seems.
            America has never been that country.

  6. SheilaRich says

    There really isn’t much difference between the Republicans and the Democrats if you look at their voting record and party policies.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Intellegence still exists in America.

      1. MAHB001 says

        You might just be coming around…. To acknowledge that both parties are indistinguishable at the top is really a step towards enlightenment.

        If you can’t tell their voting records apart, and they are all marching towards Big Government (socialism), and a vast majority of the people feel the Country is moving in the wrong direction….

        Can you connect the next dot? That the Country is moving towards socialism and that is the wrong direction……

      2. Hillaryoncrack says

        How would you know you pathetic POS? Go back to your bottle of Vodka.

      3. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

        You have to search high and low to find it however. Not much sign of any intelligent life in Washington, D.C.

    2. MAHB001 says

      You are correct, both push towards crony capitalism, which is just another form of communism….

      15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

      Liberal progressive socialist are in control of both parties.

      1. Reality Check says

        “both push towards crony capitalism, which is just another form of communism”

        God you’re an idiot.

        lets see examine this for the moron of the right,

        capitalism which is all about profit and private ownership is somehow the same as
        government/society owned and controlled with NO profit motive.

        1. MAHB001 says

          God your an idiot… I was talking about both Parties, the Democrats and Republicans both push towards crony capitalism…

          Democrats are out of the closed socialists now. The Republican elite are still in the closet.

          Crony Capitalism is the collusion of BIG Government and BIG Business interests to the benefit of the politicians (who get money and support) and the Businesses that get an biased environment for their business.

          Socialism/Communism is what? The collusion of the Government to control the means of production…..

          God you are stupid.

          1. Gunflint Roseberg says

            Its good to discuss, examine, even argue politics. BUT, when you start calling other Patriots names you have proven one thing about yourself, & gained nothing.
            Whether one wants to call our current government Marxist/Socialist/ Communist we all know it’s going the wrong direction. I am a firm believer in our Countries road map & that’s our “Constitution/Bill of Rights”. and a phrase Patrick Henry once used “United We Stand & Divided We Fall” is true today as it was then.

          2. MAHB001 says

            I agree with everything you say, except I would not call Reality Check a patriot.

            This guy has proven to me over and over again that he is one of the con artists that sold the emperor his new clothes so fine that only the purest of heart could see.

            Reality Check is a troll, liberal plant that resides on these posts only to divide and conquer conservatives. The guy is evil. He is here only to divide, so that we fall.

            My apologies for letting my emotions take over.

          3. Gunflint Roseberg says

            You are a true Patriot. And my emotions often get the best of me also. Their are those among us that don’t get it, don’t want to, or as you pointed out… troll’s. We must try to over look these distractions & keep focused on those willing to listen, discuss, & research the truth. Keep up the good work & keep focused. America needs more like you !!

          4. Reality Check says

            America is being torn apart by YOU people.

            WHO publishes articles constantly about “Obama taking your guns”, “Obama turning the country Muslim”, “Obama pretty much responsible for it raining today”

            AND my favorite, “Obama is going to kill us all with Ebola”

            this web site is ALL about HATE.

            I am the patriot here.

          5. Gunflint Roseberg says

            My God, MAH001 was right. You are a Troll.

          6. Reality Check says

            MAH001 is an idiot.

            you seem to be working on it.

          7. Gunflint Roseberg says

            “Maintaining difference of opinion is a thing commendable but not at the cost of respect you extend to whom you differ with.”

          8. Reality Check says

            MAH001 has proven to not deserve respect.

          9. Gunflint Roseberg says

            ALL Patriots who love their Country, & live by the Constitution/Bill of Rights deserve respect ! We may not agree with each others theories, views, or interpretations but respect is imperative. Were all working for one common
            goal & that’s change for a Better America.

          10. Reality Check says

            when YOU LIE about my country, that is not an “opinion”.
            Obama is not a Muslim etc.
            lets start there shall we?

          11. Gunflint Roseberg says

            Read obama’s book, then tell me he doesn’t stand with the Muslims. Do the research.

          12. Reality Check says

            Sure, he was talking about, “IN the event” that you wacky cons go CRAZY and Islamophobia goes rampant, THEN he would stand with them.

            AS WOULD THE REST OF THE G-20 Countries.(and probably hundreds of others)

            THAT being your “proof” of him “being” a Muslim, is kind of PATHETIC.

          13. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Perhaps, but you have dedicated your entire miserable life working on it. I suspect you were born an a-hole and just increased your natural ability through hard work.

          14. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            If we gave this site an enema we would insert the hose in you.

          15. MAHB001 says

            Thank you for the kind words..

          16. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            He should keep his secret to himself instead of proving it over and over. Makes you wonder about the sanity of a person who is obviously a liberal drone coming to a Conservative website to parade his ignorance. Most of eventually grow up and quit acting like adolescents, but r-c is stuck at mental development age around 13 or 14 at best.

          17. Reality Check says

            Someone HAS to tell you morons, YOU ARE BRAINWASHED!

          18. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Funny, a liberal drone calling someone brainwashed. I suppose you’re just jealous having a brain so small it can’t be laundered.

          19. MAHB001 says

            This one is evil, the ideological subversion is strong with this one. He can not accept that he is wrong regardless of how many times he is proven wrong because
            to admit being wrong will plant a seed of doubt within his brain. Those that control this evil one will not allow that to happen… Or he could be just that evil.

            “As soon as by one’s own propaganda even a glimpse of right on the other side is admitted, the cause for doubting one’s own right is laid.”
            —–Adolf Hitler

          20. Reality Check says

            I have never been proven wrong.
            especially by you, the guy who thinks we are on the path to Communism.

            I welcome the truth.

            you’re idea of proof is an article in Fixthisnation.

            YOU are so Dim, you think the Pres is a Muslim,so….

          21. Deby says

            RC is a true legend in his own mind-and I believe his mind is extremely tiny-as evidenced by his repetitive attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, which is usually 99% of the posters on this site. He is a troll with a computer with limited knowledge of well, just about everything.

          22. Reality Check says

            Actually fool of the right wing, it’s your LIES that I disagree with.
            ALL LIES will be CHALLENGED.

            so I suggest you stop LYING.

          23. MAHB001 says

            You just proved Deby right.

          24. Deby says

            I don’t lie, but you do troll

          25. MAHB001 says

            True, I also believe he is being paid to disrupt.

          26. Reality Check says

            more proof you are not too bright.

          27. Cotton says

            I would argue that it is more the Big Businesses that are controlling the government, not really socialism/communism, but still crony capitalism.

          28. MAHB001 says

            OK, but I do not see how big businesses can force the government into doing anything… They can dangle money in front of the politicians, but the politicians have got to accept the money before the dance happens.

            I’ll make one more point, crony capitalism is corruption, and it is practiced by both political parties and all businesses that can afford it. I think most businessmen and companies would not do it unless they profit from it. Or if their business livelihood depends on it.

          29. Cotton says

            If you look at Hillary Clinton’s “all-time” donor list you will see the large banks and financial institutions are at the top of the list. Big businesses would do it because it benefits them.

          30. Reality Check says

            “but I do not see how big businesses can force the government into doing anything”

            Is that the most naive thing I have ever heard?

            ” I think most businessmen and companies would not do it unless they profit from it.”

            that might be the second.

          31. ringostarr1 says

            “Rent Seeking” is a more descriptive and accurate term.

          32. MAHB001 says

            For what?

          33. ringostarr1 says

            Crony Capitalism. And Rent Seeking are one and the same.

        2. Jimmy Quick says

          He never mentioned capitalism in the form to which you make reference. MAHB001 referenced crony capitalism which an organized fleecing of the people by the hierarchy (Obama). This is a design implemented by the ruling class, for the ruling class to profit from controlled profit making. In this way, the hierarchy is assured to make a profit while others suffer the consequences of being forced into submission to a criminal enterprise.

          In this way crony capitalism is just another form of communism. I don’t expect you to get this because, quit frankly, I don’t think you have the head for it, but I post it here for others so that they may know you as an enemy of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

          So, when you come down from whatever drugs you take and read this, you can figure out that we all have your number and you are considered to be nothing to any of us.

          1. Reality Check says

            “which an organized fleecing of the people by the hierarchy (Obama)”

            well, so much for your intellect.

          2. Danny Deville Sr. says

            Who gives a shit ? You all sound like bickering children.
            Grow up , especially you Reality Check.
            You are the shit starter of the millenia.

          3. MAHB001 says

            The first goal of Reality Check is to spread liberal lies.
            Second is to divided Conservatives .
            Third is to disrupt and reduce all conversations to bickering…

            From your comments, I would say that he is still winning.

          4. Reality Check says

            Sorry silly con, It is ALL about your lies.

          5. MAHB001 says

            Sure it is, Now go along and enjoy your crusty old clinton samwich.

          6. Reality Check says

            I am sorry Danny, what did I say that was in error?

          7. Danny Deville Sr. says

            Reality you mostly post the facts.
            I give you that.
            It’s the name calling you are addicted to.
            Does “Fool ” Ring a bell.
            We should all be able to have our opinions without name calling.
            Right? ?

          8. Reality Check says

            Well Dan, I guess I have the need for more adjectives.

            IF you are paying attention though, I always start off nice to even the lowest info conservative.

            MANY of these guys are return low info voters, who I have been dealing with for months.

            Jimmy Quick thinks he’s clever and MAHB001 is a cold war era warrior who thinks everything from the ice cream man to Sesame Street is a march toward communism.

          9. Jimmy Quick says

            Drank too much? Take an aspirin and let the big people sort this one out.

          10. Danny Deville Sr. says

            So I’m guessing you are one of the big people.
            Ok big man start sorting.
            I’m watching.

          11. Jimmy Quick says

            Well, if you can’t deal with it, others will.

          12. Danny Deville Sr. says

            Lol, Right.
            Still waiting for you to sort things out big man.
            Again, I’m watching.

          13. MAHB001 says

            Thank you. Well said.

          14. Reality Check says

            “crony capitalism is just another form of communism.”

            says “Just Another Conservative Moron”.

            So since the GOP support Crony Capitalism in a Big Way,
            (subsidies and tax breaks for Big Oil and Big Agro)
            you mean to say that the GOP are communist?

            you cons are just morons.
            Next you fools will be saying that the Oligarchy who own the GOP are Communists.

          15. Jimmy Quick says

            Get lost punk. I don’t converse with idiots.

          16. Reality Check says

            well now that you have my attention, moron of the right wing

          17. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            You all may have noticed that this idiot is perfectly fine with George Soros, Ben and Jerry founders, the Hollywood crowd, Tom Steyer, Warren Buffet, labor unions and a host of other liberals owning the RAT party.

      2. Reality Check says

        “Liberal progressive socialist are in control of both parties”

        More proof your are not too bright.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Your insults are weak and disclose more about you than me.

        2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

          Anyone who has been exposed to more than a few of your posts realizes you need to be institutionalized for your own safety and the protection of others.

          1. Reality Check says

            Tell me old timer, WHAT is IT I said that was in error?

          2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Not it, but more like everything and anything. You are a walking encyclopedia of made up facts, lies and outright lies. In all fairness you are no different than any other liberal retard.

          3. Reality Check says

            But silly old man,
            I can prove every word, you on the other hand CAN’T.
            big difference.

        3. Cotton says


          1. Reality Check says

            I really need a copy editor.

      3. CCblogging says

        Actually, “crony capitalism” is Fascism. There isn’t a lot of difference between a Fascist and a Communist. Both ideologies demand total control over the populace. With Fascism private property is allowed as long as the government maintains total control. With Communism, no private property rights allowed and the government maintains total control.

      4. ringostarr1 says

        MAHB001, As much as I hate to say it Reality Check came in out of the cold with the remark below.

        1. MAHB001 says

          I will look for the comment.,

          1. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            He is dumber than a dog dick!

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      5. ken29 says

        Wow! Where did you ever find that? Communism is a form of government which is based on communal ownership of “industry”. Capitalism is a form of government where “industry” is owned by the people. Crony capitalism is sort of the government owned by industry. Not much in common. It is defensible to believe that Liberal Progressive Socialists (proper nouns) are currently in control of the Democratic party, though they aren’t very liberal or progressive (common nouns). It isn’t defensible to believe that anyone is in control of the Republican party, but its more active extremists are anything but liberal, progressive, or socialist. For that matter, they aren’t very conservative, traditional, or capitalist either, mostly just loud, rude, and selfish.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Lets look at the similarities of Crony Capitalism to Communism…

          Definition-Communism – Marxist-Leninist system.
          “the Marxist-Leninist version of a classless society in which capitalism is overthrown by a working-class revolution that gives ownership and control of wealth and property to the state.”

          In other words, the State own the means of production.

          Definition-Crony Capitalism
          “the flow of wealth to a small group of people who are already wealthy and well connected.”

          Crony Capitalism is not a form of Government, it is where the Politicians (the State) collude with Big Business (the means of production) for the exchange of favors. .

          Do you see why I say Crony Capitalism is a form of Communism?

          1. Reality Check says

            “Definition-Crony Capitalism

            “the flow of wealth to a small group of people who are already wealthy and well connected.

            God you are silly.
            Where did you get that definition?

            Kens description was accurate

          2. Reality Check says

            “Do you see why I say Crony Capitalism is a form of Communism?”

            so tell me, how does one prevent crony capitalism and save America from communism?

        2. Reality Check says

          This is correct.

          Welcome Ken.

          this would be his (MAHB001) obsession.
          everything is a march toward Muslim & communism, bla bla.

      6. Wayne Smyer says


        1. MAHB001 says

          IT is the truth. Try looking with an open mind.

    3. Reality Check says

      Not too bright are you?

      Lets see, for ONE, the GOP vote to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. Big Difference

      99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. Big Difference

      the GOP let children starve. Big Difference.

      the GOP are AFRAID of Muslims and try and ban them from America. Big Difference.

      1. Tiger says

        She is right on. The voters saw it with the Midterms when they believed the RINO would stop O and instead they gave him everything he wanted.

        GOP let children starve? Right that is why there are so many programs to feed them. In Florida alone Jeb set-up program after program and GW set-up no Child left behind where history shows it is the Democrat party, the KKK who killed off Blacks and Whites to stop the Republican votes and LBJ who said clearly give um stuff and they will vote us in forever. That is why Democrats like to Divide us so they can play on the minorities.

        GOP are afraid of the M in the WH who since day one has done everything for our enemies and nothing for our safety and continues to do it today. GOP are strong on stopping ISIS and getting back our strength along with enforcing our Federal Immigration laws.

        1. Reality Check says

          was that a con proving my points wrong or Tap Dancing?

          1. SheilaRich says

            Reality Check: you are one rude dude! Too many people can’t have a rational, clear-headed discussion! I don’t think you are even worth responding to; it would probably make you angrier than you already are.

          2. Reality Check says

            you said,
            “There really isn’t much difference between the Republicans and the Democrats ”

            I gave you several very large differences between the two.
            That is you and I discussing IT.

            that fact that you think they are the same has two causes.

            your “brightness” or you’re just a bold faced liar.

            the only thing they have in common is them being controlled by MONEY.

            do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.
            the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

            They are practically the opposite.

            love to hear some similarities.

          3. SheilaRich says

            Reality Check: You are absolutely wrong: you and I are NOT having a discussion!

          4. Reality Check says

            OH REALLY fool of the right?

            so the GOP now believe in climate change?

            and a women’s right to chose?

            We do not seem to be having a conversation since you have your head in the sand like all good drones of the right DO.

        2. Reality Check says

          “GW set-up no Child left behind”

          the most HATED program by teachers, ever devised.

          if you had a brain, that would not be something to try and make a conservative look good.

        3. Reality Check says

          “where history shows it is the Democrat party, the KKK who killed off Blacks and Whites to stop the Republican votes”

          what does this have to do with ANYTHING I posted, moron of the right?

          AND lets remember FOOL, that the Democrat party in the South is FULL Of conservatives.

          surely the “well informed independent” has heard of the Blue Dog Democrats.?

          oh, and maybe you have heard the name Wendy Davis, a wacka doodle conservative who happens to be a registered Dem?

          So WHY the DISINGENUOUS attempt to link conservative activities to liberals, Huh fool?

        4. Reality Check says

          So killing off all the Al Qaeda heads was ‘helping” the Muslims.

          I see tool of right wing STUPIDITY.

          arming and aiding the Muslim fighting ISIS is “helping” Muslims.

          Tell me fool, when did you become an ISIS operative?

      2. Joyce White says

        Get this through your grossly thick skull. Republicans are not afraid of Muslims.Do you not read the news? Sweden, Holland, Denmark, Germany and France have all thrown open their doors to the “poor homeless Muslim refugees” And look how their kindness has been repaid. Do you have a daughter?(of course, they are not fussy about which sex) Picture your daughter playing with her friends and some refugee comes along and drags her into the bushes and rapes her; or maybe your wife is shopping and some Muslim man decodes she is not dressed modestly enough and throws acid in her face. How would you react to that. I know , like any other red blooded man, you would want to kill him. Because of their religion, they believe they have a God given right to do such things. (I know, you don’t believe in God) but that isn’t going to protect your family if we allow any refugees into this country. We have enough potential terrorists here, with out allowing more in. The old saying is “When the wolf is at your door, don’t invite him to dinner”

        1. Reality Check says

          You act like everything you described does not happen In America everyday.

          committed by EVERYONE of EVERY faith.

          rapes, sexual violence, all the time.

          God, you people are scary silly.

        2. Reality Check says

          “Because of their religion, they believe they have a God given right to do such things”

          COMPLETE LIE!
          what is WRONG is you posting THAT SHIT.

          1. Joyce White says

            Sorry, I should have specified. Islamic terrorists. I guess it is silly to assume that you would know anything about Moderate Muslims.. The terrorists have hijacked the Muslim faith and are following verses they have taken out of context. Like Surah 9 which says Kill the nonbeliever where ever you find them. I do not believe that the Muslims I have known all my life would suddenly rise up and slay me. But I’m afraid I can’t say as much for the “refugees”. The many pictures I have seen do not have many women and children in them. The are mostly young strong men, there were videos of them crossing into Germany and they were destroying things as they walked around. some of them broke store windows, and screamed at the people and threatened them. And when they were taken to refugee camps in the middle east, food packages were passed out to everyone and they tore them open and stomped on the food because it wasn’t ‘halal’. You need to: read something besides Democrat B.S,and start watching more than mainstream media. You just might get an education.

          2. Reality Check says

            “The terrorists have hijacked the Muslim faith and are following verses they have taken out of context”

            so IF they are taking it out of context (WHICH BY THE WAY the liberals have been saying for YEARS) then they are not FOLLOWING the religion ARE THEY?

            PS I have LIVED in 4 Muslims countries.

          3. Joyce White says

            You have lived in 4 Muslim countries? Good for you.The fact that they are taking scripture out of context, does not make them any less dangerous. In fact. they are ignoring all the beautiful verses and concentrating on the violent parts which aren’t meant the way they are using them The Crusader claimed to be Christians , but their actions told a different story.So, unfortunately, the Middle Easterners use the Crusaders as an example of what Christian are.For the same reason, the world will judge Muslims buy the actions of Islamic terrorists It is not fair, but it is human.. .

          4. Reality Check says

            I have never said terrorists were not dangerous.
            the problem is the mass hysteria of many in America about “Muslims”.

            Trump wants to BAN all Muslims.
            shall I link you to him saying it?

            that is hysteria over the Religion, not terrorists.

            Terrorists are evil, NOT Islam.

          5. Joyce White says

            Again, you have chosen to ignore facts. Hamas, Al Qaeda, Taliban and Isis, are all terrorist groups, they also happen to be Muslims. The name Isis stands for “ISLAMIC STATES of IRAN and SYRIA”. They continually shout Death to Americans! The Ayatollah Ali Khamenie went on the television and said they were going to obliterate Israel. Now, I don’t know how you feel about it, but that sounds like a pretty terrifying statement to me.Since they think it is ok to strap a bomb vest to their little children and send them into a crowd of people with the express purpose of killing as many of them as possible, to me that is terrorism. If you have another explanation for making walking bombs out of their kids, please enlighten me.The only explanation I can think of is THEY ARE INSANE

          6. Reality Check says

            “I do not believe that the Muslims I have known all my life would suddenly rise up and slay me.”

            I find it HARD to believe that anyone who HAS Muslim Friends, has the attitude toward Muslims that YOU display.

          7. Joyce White says

            What does having Muslim friends have to do with hating the Islamic terrorists. I have a lot of black friends, but that doesn’t stop me from hating the S.O.B. in the W.H.Do you like everyone you have ever met in your whole life? Probably not. So don’t criticize people for being selective about the people they do or don’t like.

          8. Reality Check says

            Why do you insist on calling them “Islamic terrorists” instead of Terrorists?

            what does Islam have to do with IT, unless you are trying to tie Islam to terrorism?

            THAT is why Obama is not doing IT and WHY the right wing have a fit over that, BECAUSE they are TRYING to link Islam with terror.

            If you have Muslim friends then you now this garbage about Sharia law, Muslims are allowed to lie, kill the non believers, is all A LIE.

            right Joyce?

        3. Reality Check says

          Gee Joyce you seems to have forgotten to respond to the fact that rapes and sexual assault happen every friggin hour here in America, NOT committed by Muslims.

          1. Joyce White says

            Sorry, again I neglected to address your remarks. You are right, those things do happen every day in America, and only a few have been committed by Muslims. Do you ever catch any of the broadcast from overseas? Sweden reported that rapes have risen 1000% since the refugees have arrived. Denmark and France are also reporting a huge rise in rapes, and murder associated with it.So you don’t have to strain yourself searching for information, I will provide a couple of links. and The first one is a U.N. site and the second one is European Times. Read through the articles and see what you think. This situation is far more serious than people realize. If we allow 100,000 refugees in, (and that is a low figure, because Obama is talking at least 200,000) there is going to be a tremendous rise in unemployment. In the first place we are unable to provide jobs for the 500,000+ illegal aliens that just came here last year, so you and I are providing for their housing, food, utilities, clothing and automobiles. We will also have to do the same for any refugees we let in. There comes a time when we have to say “Enough is enough” Charity begins at home. We need to take care of our homeless, and veterans, and hungry children. We need to create jobs for our citizens first. Then we can address world problems

          2. Reality Check says

            Ok, refugees,

            The United States will increase the number of refu­gees it admits to allow in more people fleeing violence in Central America, Secretary of State John F. Kerry said Wednesday.

            In a speech at the National Defense University, Kerry said the expansion of the Refugee Admissions Program will be directed toward people from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, to “offer them a safe and legal alternative to the dangerous journey many are currently tempted to begin, making them easy prey for human smugglers who have no interest but their own profits.”

            The United States already plans to admit 85,000 refugees from around the world in the fiscal year that began in October, but only 3,000 spaces are set aside for Central Americans. The total allotment is 15,000 more refugees than in the previous year and includes 10,000 Syrians referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees under a special vetting process that typically takes 18 to 24 months. The ceiling for refugees is even higher for 2017, when it will rise to 100,000.


            The “increase” is from 70,000 to 85,000 to add room for the Central American refugees.

            even in 2017 the number is only 100,000.

            lets see you info?

          3. Reality Check says

            “In the first place we are unable to provide jobs for the 500,000+ illegal aliens that just came here last year”

            where did you get that number?

            first off, an illegal has NO RIGHTS and gets no “housing, food, utilities, clothing and automobiles”.
            IF detained they get detention time and deportation,
            if “free” they work under the table and avoid the authorities at all cost.

            “America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago (see article); nearly 2million so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president. Border patrol agents no longer just patrol the border; they scour the country for illegals to eject. The deportation machine costs more than all other areas of federal criminal law-enforcement combined. It tears families apart and impoverishes America.”


            I await your links of rebuttal.

          4. Joyce White says

            DHS: Obama Administration has been inflating deportation …


            While the administration has claimed a “record number” of deportations, earning Pres. Obama … Administration has been inflating deportation … “Under the Obama …I am not a subscriber to this site, but I was able to get it in case you might be. If you type Deportation under Obama, into your search box, many sites will come up. This is one of them Click on it and read what it says.

          5. Reality Check says

            “In the first place we are unable to provide jobs for the 500,000+ illegal aliens that just came here last year”

            So does Joyce know that the GOP are the party that supports workers from India and Pakistan (English speaking) to come here and work for what a US engineer or tech guy gets.

            “House GOP seeks flood of foreign ‘guest workers”

            The first immigration bill introduced under Rep. Paul Ryan’s speakership Wednesday would bypass the annual 66,000 cap on H-2B work visas by allowing foreigners admitted in any of the three previous years to remain and not be subject to the cap.


          6. Joyce White says

            Well, It was only introduced. It has to be argued to death and put to a vote and if it passes, be signed by the president, etc.etc.etc.It is a disturbing bill, but it is only one in a long line of Bi-partisan sponsored bills which were awful but fortunately didn’t pass

          7. Reality Check says

            “We need to create jobs for our citizens first. Then we can address world problems”

            See WE agree.

            why do we have over a 1000 bases all over the world?
            for some reason that is more important than our citizens.

            we spend more than the next dozens countries, combined.
            and that includes Russia and China.

            After NAFTA, 60,000 factories up and left the country.
            what did the GOP lead congress do?

            gave them the ability to deduct the move to china.

            Oh yes Joyce, the GOP had control of both houses of congress from 95 to jan 07
            (except for the Senate from 01-03 was 50/50 with Cheney as the tie vote breaker, so….)


            The left was screaming about this, Ross Perot was vindicated, the right cheered.

            what does every other G-20 country do?

            they add a VAT tax to everything.
            Trump said he was going to tax imports 35%.
            same deal basically.

          8. Joyce White says

            Reality Check, I remember that vote. I remember telling Rush Limbaugh that it would ruin everything for American businesses.The Republican Congressmen voted against the wishes of their constituents . When we heard it had passed, we hoped Clinton wouldn’t sign it. (I was still a Democrat then, and had faith in a Democrat president) and it would have to go back to Congress to be voted on again. But he knuckled under and signed the damned thing.

    4. R. Lee Johnson says

      The Republicans and Democrats are two wings on the same bird of prey.

      1. Reality Check says

        So R. Lee Johnson was not “with it” enough to read my post right below?


        Lets see, for ONE, the GOP vote to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        the GOP let children starve. BIG DIFFERENCE..

        do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.

        the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        The GOP cut funding for the VA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        The GOP cut funding for the poor. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        so the big question IS, who the hell tells you this bullshit and why are you so ILL INFORMED as to believe IT?

        LOVE to hear some similarities.

        1. R. Lee Johnson says

          Here are 7 big reasons there’s no difference between establishment Democrats and Republicans:

          1. Both support endless war. It’s been more than a decade since the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and America’s entanglements are far from over. Though Bush is remembered as the consummate hawk, Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama has used his time in office to start or maintain additional wars in Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, and Somalia. Now, he wants to add Syria to the list. My generation can barely remember peace—and there’s no end in sight for a foreign policy with devastating human and financial costs.

          2. Both engage in out-of-control spending. Yes, deficit spending has accelerated under Barack Obama. But you know what? There was also a massive acceleration under Bush. The fact is, debt is a bipartisan problem, and neither party is innocent. With $17 trillion of debt (and rapidly counting) as the consequence of decades of bipartisan irresponsibility, the time has passed for pointing fingers and dubbing a slightly slower rate of spending growth a “historic cut.”

          3. Both ignore our most basic rights.CNN recently asked “When can a government kill its own people?” but for President Obama and some old guard GOP leaders like Sen. John McCain, that question has already been answered: Pretty much whenever it’s convenient. In fact, the U.S. government has already assassinated a 16-year-old American citizen by drone strike, killing a boy who was neither accused nor suspected of any crime.

          4. Both have no respect for the rule of law. Obama swept into office promising a new attention to the rule of law after years of (correct) complaints that Bush often ignored it. “I take the Constitution very seriously,” he maintained to a nation weary for lawfulness. Bush and his GOP Congress were rightly critiqued for rampantly flouting the Constitution, especially the 4th and 5th Amendments (rights to privacy and a fair trial). But as Gitmo remains open, the NDAA makes indefinite detention a possibility for any American, and the list of NSA abuses reaches absurd proportions, Obama’s campaign promise is overdue for a death certificate.

          5. Both are bought and paid for by big business. You know what’s the best original idea in politics today? Making politicians wear suits like NASCAR drivers, which display their biggest corporate sponsors. Democrats and Republicans alike would be plastered with logos. So is it any wonder that many of these same businesses get massive favors from the government at taxpayers’ expense? DC spends upwards of $100 billion on corporate welfare annually, not to mention huge one-off expenditures like the bailouts.

          6. Both care most about their own power. President Obama recently joked, “That’s the good thing about being president, I can do whatever I want.” And while he was just kidding around, his humor was in line with the bipartisan presidential mindset. In the recent State of the Union address, the President announced his intention to continue expanding the power of the Executive at Congress’ expense. Republicans were duly upset at this power grab, but historically GOP Presidents have actually averaged slightly more executive orders than Democrats have.

          7. Both have a long record of expanding government and shrinking liberty. Finally, take a look at the big picture:

          Our government is reading our emails and monitoring our calls.

          It gropes us at the airport, wants to keep track of our cars, and plans to subject us to random security sweeps at concerts and train stations.

          We can’t decide for ourselves what to consume, whether to buy insurance, or who to marry.

          All our income until mid-April goes directly to the government.

          America has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and minorities are subject to unfair, disproportionate punishment.

          Is this really the land of the free?

          In 2014, it’s very difficult to answer that question in the affirmative. But it’s easy to see that partisanship isn’t the answer—and neither is bipartisan big government. As America moves toward a new, liberty-friendly policy consensus, let’s toss this outdated left vs. right rivalry and focus on the real fight:

          Washington vs. us.

          1. Reality Check says

            nice copy and paste.

            but my differences between the two still stand and are VERY significant,
            climate and women being two.

            the sub issue is just how liberal or conservative they are.
            the parties have members that blend together.

            usually, because they are bought by the same corporations.

            see who voted for the TPP.

            bought and paid for, voted YES.


      2. 73Anne37 says


    5. Bob Stewart says

      Exactly why nominating a candidate who repudiates the party’s failed agendas needs to be the choice and any candidate who does not support him will be responsible for the utter destruction of the republican party. OK, maybe that’s harsh, but the republican party would be thrown on the trash heap of human waste and relegated to inconsequential standing..

    6. WhiteFalcon says

      That is why Trump is winning the GOP race. We are sick of all the lies that come from the Republican establishment. They do nothing but cave in to the radical Commieonazis known as the so. called Democrat party.

    7. CCblogging says

      There is not a nickel’s worth of difference between the two parties. Both serve their Globalist masters and abuse our populace.

      1. Reality Check says

        I have a nickel for the low info fool of the right wing.

        the Dems and GOP could NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT.

        lets examine reality for the low info voter.

        Lets see, for ONE, the GOP voted to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        the GOP let children starve. BIG DIFFERENCE..

        do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.

        the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        The GOP cut funding for the VA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        The GOP cut funding for the poor. BIG DIFFERENCE.

        so the big question IS, who the hell tells you this bullshit and why are you so ILL INFORMED as to believe IT?

        LOVE to hear some similarities (aside from the HUGE influence MONEY has on both.)

        1. Joyce White says

          Hi Reality Check. Here’s Home

          FY 2013 Budget: The Facts for Veterans

          Issues: Veterans

          Several media outlets are reporting that the GOP Budget cuts funding for veterans. These same outlets charge that the GOP budget doesn’t even mention the word “veterans.” Both charges are wrong.

          These reports stem from a misreading of the GOP Budget and by comparing the CBO scoring of the GOP Budget and the President’s Budget, with that of OMB’s score of the President’s Budget. Using CBO scoring for both budgets, the GOP Budget exceeds the funding levels for veterans over the next 10 year as compared to the President’s budget (see chart below).

          Learn more about funding veterans programs from the House Budget Committee.

          The Facts

          FACT: The GOP Budget Keeps Discretionary Spending for Veterans Exactly the Same as Proposed By President Obama: $61.342 Billion. Using CBO numbers (which, by law, every Congressional budget resolution must use), the GOP budget assumes discretionary spending (i.e., VA medical care, construction, claims processing and national cemetery administration, etc.) on veterans in FY 2013 at exactly the amount requested in the President’s Budget. In both budgets, this translates to a 4.3% increase above the FY 2012 funding level for VA, as recommended in the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs’ bipartisan Views and Estimates letter.

          FACT: The GOP Budget Fully Funds VA Entitlement Programs in FY 2013 and Beyond. Again, using CBO numbers, the GOP budget fully funds VA entitlement programs (i.e., disability compensation, pension, GI Bill, etc.) this year and beyond. The only difference between the GOP Budget and the President’s Budget under mandatory spending is the exclusion of the President’s $1 billion Veterans Jobs Corps proposal, on which the Administration has yet to produce any details. The exclusion of the Veterans Jobs Corps in FY 2013 spending is supported by all 11 House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs’ Democrats and Senator Patty Murray of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs (see SVAC V&E letter).

          FACT: The Word “Veterans” Appears 41 Times in the GOP Budget. FY 2014 advanced appropriations for veterans’ medical care is dictated by Section 501(c) of the GOP budget resolution, which permits advance appropriation not exceeding $54.462 Billion “for the following programs in the Department of Veterans Affairs – (A) Medical Services; (B) Medical Support and Compliance; and (C) Medical Facilities accounts of the Veterans Health Administration.” The word “veterans” clearly appears in the GOP Budget.

          GOP Budget and the President’s Budget: A Comparison

          Total Veterans Spending

          FY 2013

          FY 2013-FY 2022

          GOP Budget*

          $134.635 B**

          $1,510.938 B

          President’s Budget*

          $135.651 B

          $1,494.309 B

          * Congressional Budget Office estimates, budget authority

          ** Consistent with bipartisan House and Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee recommendations, does not assume spending of $1 Billion on the President’s Veterans Job Corps proposal

          The Protect VA Healthcare Act of 2012

          Chairman Jeff Miller recently introduced the Protect VA Healthcare Act of 2012 (H.R. 3895) to ensure that healthcare for veterans through VA is not cut next January due to sequesteration. To learn more about the bill, Chairman Miller’s efforts to stop sequestration of VA, and the possible effects of cuts on VA healthcare, click here.


          Military Times Reports the Facts »

          In The News

          Chairman Miller Statement on VA’s Inability to Discipline Kimberly Graves

          Chairman Miller Statement on Passing of VA Scandal Victim Barry Coates

          Chairman Miller Statement Ahead of President Obama’s State of the Union Address

          Miller Statement on Phoenix VA Bosses Returning to Work

          Miller Statement on VA Secretary’s Refusal to Punish Confirmed Whistleblower Retaliation in Phoenix

          More »

          Upcoming Hearings




          Choice Consolidation: Evaluating Eligibility Requirements for Care in the Community




          Lost Opportunities for Veterans: An Examination of VA’s Technology Transfer Program




          U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs Budget Request for Fiscal Year 2017

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          some information for you.

          1. Reality Check says

            ALL that copy and paste and NO link?

          2. Joyce White says

            I thought you were intelligent enough to look things up. Somewhere on your computer, is a search space. Type in what you want to know and ti will bring up tons of stuff for you to learn

          3. Reality Check says

            DISINGENUOUS cons post without links BECAUSE they are HIDING SOMETHING.

        2. MAHB001 says

          If it were not for low info voters, 0bama would not be in office.

          Every one of your arguments, points away from the truth in an attempt to sway those low info voters.

      2. 73Anne37 says


    8. ken29 says

      Sheila…: Well, sort of. The leading candidates for both “ends” display and represent selfish, hating, whining, bullies (aka tyrants). The only difference, in the extreme, is which tyrannies they advocate.

    9. ringostarr1 says

      Sheila, did either your or MAHB001’s mother give birth to any children who lived?

    10. ringostarr1 says

      Sheila, you really should be taking your Alzheimer medications instead of trading it in on Birth Control Pills.

      Now read this link and then tell us that the Republicans are the same as the Democrat Party.

      1. Reality Check says

        you really think I didn’t do a bang up job of pointing out her LOW INFO, yet?

        why are your conservative brethren so Dim?

    11. sharolinethomas says


  7. buck Shot says

    Any combination of Trump/Cruz would be exactly what we need!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Only if you support dictatorships.
      Apparently, you are not aware that Cruz’s father was Fidel Castro’s life-long friend and supporter.
      Daddy Cruz only recently became a U.S. citizen.

    2. boucle says

      Trump/ Carson would be better because of tribal loyalty and can win. Cruz is too Goldman Sachs and weasely. And only recently an American citizen.

  8. Austinniceguy says

    I thought Trump stood out the most last night. The rest sounded like little girls on the playground; “i know you are but, what am I”?

  9. bud wood says

    with voting a communist inspired muslm for 8 teays en omly offering Liar Killary os a socialist,We’d better get trump or Mario quickly..

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Freedom of religion is the basis upon which America was founded.
      You insult everything the Founders fought and died for.

      1. Progressive Republican says

        And his English teachers.

      2. boucle says

        Islam is a system of government with strict laws that are not compatible with our laws/ Constitution, it’s not just a religion. That’s the deception. muslims whining about discrimination of their “religion”.

        1. Reality Check says

          “Islam is a system of government with strict laws”

          YOU are an idiot.

          stop spreading stupidity.

  10. Tiger says

    The Divide was purposely and systematically calibrated and widened deeper with Black Lives Matter. It is will continue until a new president who enforces the laws of our land and helps to bring about movement in communities to help themselves get rid of crime.

    The Divide is a worry but there are bigger worries that are putting Americans or all colors in danger and that is the influx of refugees from countries that want to kill us. These people are across the USA and as the FBI has said they now have 1000 Active Investigations into ISIS across the country. They are playing on this Divide encouraging Muslim, Blacks and Hispanics to join them.

    Much needs to be done and fast.

    1. Reality Check says

      “The Divide was purposely and systematically calibrated and widened deeper with Black Lives Matter”

      see, you just spread the right wing Talking Points and then PRETEND you are an “independent”.

      so NOW you have to explain how BLM “systematically calibrated and widened deeper” “the divide”.

      Oh, and then somehow the Pres not enforcing laws is responsible for this.
      By being Black?

      lets HEAR some EXAMPLES, cause one again I think the con is just a PARROT.

    2. Reality Check says

      “It is will continue until a new president who enforces the laws of our land and helps to bring about movement in communities to help themselves get rid of crime.”

      Is the low info con aware that state and local law enforcement is responsible for day to day street crime, not the PRESIDENT.

      so WHAT LAWS or HELP do you think this new pres will “activate” that will stop crime in America.

    3. Reality Check says

      “The Divide is a worry”

      You are RIGHT. but it all comes from the Right Wing Propaganda machine.

      I can list you a dozen “articles” in the last month on this blog that have no other purpose than HATE and DIVISION.

      so maybe you can show me some liberal HATE and DIVISION?

      “Duke Columnist Slams the First Amendment”

      a completely UNKNOWN student from Duke writes a piece of Free Speech and this articles pretend there is practically a bill in congress to repeal IT.

      THAT, low info fool of the Right Wing, is for no other purpose than DIVISION.

      I can’t wait for you Liberal article who’s only purpose is Division.

    4. Reality Check says

      “They are playing on this Divide encouraging Muslim, Blacks and Hispanics to join them.”

      and where did the low info con get this?

      ISIS is encouraging blacks and Hispanics to become terrorists and join the jihad?

  11. OrdinaryNeutronAlley says

    Who will be the savior of the FAR RIGHT REGRESSIVES that will never be satisfied how close to Fascism that you get.


    You’re the new Fourth Reich in USA.

  12. Snowpersonable says

    There is not one man out there who can “fix” this nation. The United States has crossed the Ribicon and her wounds are incurable. Congress allowed these wounds to grow deeper as corruption grows exponentially and the Supreme Court grows less tolerant of the Constitution. America is under the early stages of judgment from God and unless this nation repents and turns to God, America will continue her downward spiral. No doom talking here…just realistic facts when viewed in the eyes of biblical prophecy.

    1. Reality Check says

      “and unless this nation repents and turns to God, America will continue her downward spiral”

      AND if God is in charge, HE WANTS Obama to be pres.
      yet you religious nuts don’t support GODS CHOSEN ONE for Pres?

      why is that?

      Besides, silly human, GOD is NOT REAL.

      we have been sucking babies out of women for 45 years.

      Is he busy or just waiting for the right moment?

      when was the last time God has been seen?

      Oh, NEVER you say?
      so much like Santa, and the tooth fairy, God has NO tangible PROOF other than your faith in a fairy tale.

  13. Nathan Harlis says

    Who built this political divide anyway? Our homie Obama built it.
    The same one who built the racial divide between the blacks and whites is the same man who hired the same actors who rioted in Baltimore who also rioted in Ferguson.
    And we don’t know what else he has done that they are covering up for.
    Hillary bragged that she was based on the belief of the 10 commandments. What a laugh!
    She has broken each and everyone of the 10 commandments.
    Hillary Benghazi has lied, stolen, and may as well have stolen because of what she did in Benghazi.
    This whole liberal organization is a crime syndicate. They are using the black racism to create cushy jobs to keep the man down in food stamps and welfare. We need jobs if we are to get our American dreams back.

  14. Nathan Harlis says

    Who built this political divide anyway? Our homie Obama built it.
    The same one who built the racial divide between the blacks and whites is the same man who hired the same actors who rioted in Baltimore who also rioted in Ferguson.
    And we don’t know what else he has done that they are covering up for.
    Hillary bragged that she was based on the belief of the 10 commandments. What a laugh!
    She has broken each and everyone of the 10 commandments.
    Hillary Benghazi has lied, stolen, and may as well have stolen because of what she did in Benghazi.
    This whole liberal organization is a crime syndicate. They are using the black racism to create cushy jobs to keep the man down in food stamps and welfare. We need jobs if we are to get our American dreams back.

    1. Reality Check says

      ” is the same man who hired the same actors who rioted in Baltimore who also rioted in Ferguson.”


    2. Reality Check says

      “They are using the black racism to create cushy jobs to keep the man down in food stamps and welfare.”

      I would LOVE to hear some example of THAT silliness.

    3. Reality Check says

      “We need jobs if we are to get our American dreams back.”

      Gee fool of the right, WHO do you think sat back and waved as 60,000 factories LEFT the COUNTRY? the GOP.
      same ones who voted 99% for the next BAD trade deal, the TPP.

      what did the GOP DO when this started happening due to NAFTA and other trade agreements?

      they made the move to China DEDUCTIBLE.

  15. joe says

    The politicians are all in bed together and there is no difference between the political parties. ALL of the politicos are secretly laughing their collective bu.t.t. off at us over all the division that they have caused with their so-called differences.

    We really would be better off if we could remove the politician from the office and close the office for the remainder of the term or even better, close it permanently but humans are not ready to govern themselves so we are stuck with our elected royalty.

    We *do* need to change the names though.

    The ultra-rich politicians have no care for how their constituents live. The politicos think that $30,000/year is “rich” yet some of them are worth more than that much each DAY.

    Like the French royalty of the 18th century, the rich politicians desire only their own comfort.

    “What? The people have no bread to eat? then let them eat cake!”

    The politicians have come to believe that they are our masters rather than our servants.

    They are out of control.

    It’s time to vote ALL of them out of office.

    We need to have a ‘REMOVE INCUMBENT’ option on the ballot.

    1. Reality Check says

      “and there is no difference between the political parties”

      GOD you people are SO brainwashed.

      how can an intelligent informed human say such CRAP?

      the Dems and GOP could NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT.

      lets examine reality for Lorraine the low info.

      Lets see, for ONE, the GOP voted to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      the GOP let children starve. BIG DIFFERENCE..

      do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.

      the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      The GOP cut funding for the VA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      The GOP cut funding for the poor. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      so the big question IS, who the hell tells you this bullshit and why are you so ILL INFORMED as to believe IT?

      LOVE to hear some similarities.

    2. Reality Check says

      “laughing their collective bu.t.t. off at us over all the division that they have caused ”

      so you are concerned about division, yet here you are on the Divisive website run by the Oligarchy doing the dividing.

      1. joe says

        No, I am not concerned about the division. There is no division. ALL of the politicians are the same. ALL of them wish to be royalty. ALL of them are so wealthy that they have lost any and all connection with their constituency. ALL of them would sell their mothers to obtain a Senate seat or to maintain “ownership” of a Senate seat a la the so-called Kennedy seat of Massachusetts or the Byrd seat of West Virginia.
        You, and a great many other people have far too much faith in our political “representatives” who really do believe that they are our masters and they act as if they were.
        I feel sorry for those of you who will have to live in the bureaucracy dictatorship that is hard upon your heels. I am, fortunately, old enough that I will not see the worst of it but _you_ will and you will remember what I have told you about it.

        1. Reality Check says

          Bernie is NOT the same.

  16. Bob Stewart says

    Every time I start contemplating who to vote for, the same thoughts stay in the forefront. It is clear that I could not and will not vote for a democrat. Likewise, voting for a third party may get my anger at the establishment brought to the front, it will only serve to elect a progressive, communist, socialist democrat. When I think about the republican candidates, I have to ask how effective have the current or past office holders been at voting on the issues dear to me and, I believe, most of the country. On examination, I see a lot of speeches and press releases, but little action. Republicans have been reluctant or afraid to act and do what is necessary to correct the fall of America.. Governors have failed to stop the growth of government and most states are so “in bed” with unions and their demands for unrealistic pension plans that have local governments bankrupt. And local officials have followed the federal and state irresponsible models by continually raising taxes and spending on frivolous projects. It is definitely time for someone not beholding to the political party bosses, the media, lobbyists and the PC crowd to claim the oval office.

    1. Reality Check says

      “progressive, communist, socialist democrat”

      Hey fool of the right.
      progressives and Communists are the OPPOSITE

  17. ralph says

    We have a mass of people running for the republican President but what we have is a bunch of low end people with no gains why are they still there. Maybe they are working for Obama they all lie and do not change the way thing are going ever so why would they be there taken up space. Personally I think that they are working with the democrats to keep things the way they are in hope of keeping the stealing going for them self’s for personal gain in their pockets

    1. Reality Check says

      “Maybe they are working for Obama”

      Maybe someone who entertains such a thought, might consider GETTING INFORMED before voting.

  18. richard schlinder says

    The answer to the headline is NO. With what is coming,leadership will dissolve.

  19. junkmailbin says

    what divide??? with rich bribers, political hacks, and devote patriots how can there be a civide

  20. Larry Gagnon says

    Rather than use vague terms like “crony capitalism”, why not name a specific change you would like to see to government policies? The cumulative federal budget deficit is about $18 trillion. The fiscal 2016 federal revenue is projected to be about $3.5 trillion. If interest rates on our national debt were to rise to average 5%, interest on the national debt would be more than 25% of federal revenue. Muslim fanatics will never destroy our country; neither will undocumented Hispanic immigrants. But if our federal government keeps spending the way it has been, we will sink deeper into debt. That last President to run a surplus was Clinton. Under Bush, the cumulative deficit doubled and under Obama it will have increased about 60%. The last two presidents (with Congressional approval) have spent like drunken sailors. Here is where we should cut spending: 1. Social security; 2. Military; 3. Medicare; 4. everything else. Cuts can be made in all programs without imposing a significant burden on any of them. Which candidate is discussing our inevitable-if-we-continue-as-is debt crisis? BTW: It is way too late to fight this issue when the debt-ceiling is approached. It must be faced when the budget is created in Congress — before it is sent to the next president.

    1. Reality Check says

      I have a MUCH Better plan that the seniors will like.

      RAISE TAXES on the friggin 1%,
      cut the military since we spend MORE than the next dozen countries COMBINED.
      SAVE SS by raising the cap to 500,000
      and MEDICARE by going single payer.(we already spend MORE per capita than the next G-20 country on healthcare, so it’s not like we don’t HAVE the money.)

      CUT subsidies to OIL COMPANIES and BIG AGRO. (who supports that? GOP)
      STOP Medicare part D giveaway to Big Pharma (who supports that? GOP)

      all easy things to do. you just have to have to get rid of the morons in America (you)

  21. Lorraine E says

    The difference in the republican party is that the liberal RINOs/democrats control it and the conservatives are under never ending assault by the RINOs and not appointed to any positions of authority. The liberal RINOs are identical to the liberal democrats so we have one party in charge of the congress- democrats. Donald Trump is our only chance of having an alternative to liberal politicians and the RINOdemocrats, the democrats, and their comrades in the lying corporate press are all trying to destroy Donald Trump. Unfortunately hillary is going to receive the electoral votes of all of the democrat states and she and George Soros can buy any additional electoral votes needed to appoint her as the next president.

    1. Reality Check says

      “The liberal RINOs are identical to the liberal democrats”

      Well Lorraine, I had a lot of evidence before that you are CLUELESS, but this takes the cake.

      the Dems and GOP could NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT.
      lets examine reality for Lorraine the low info.

      Lets see, for ONE, the GOP voted to repeal 60 times and the Dems DON’T. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      99% GOP voted for the TPP while 25% of the Dems did. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      the GOP let children starve. BIG DIFFERENCE..

      do the GOP believe in Climate change? kind of a BIG DIFFERENCE.

      the Dems believe in Choice. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      The GOP cut funding for the VA. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      The GOP cut funding for the poor. BIG DIFFERENCE.

      so the big question IS, who the hell tells you this bullshit and why are you so ILL INFORMED as to believe IT?

      LOVE to hear some similarities.

  22. rayhause says

    It is so obvious that many of you have really never followed the events within congress or you would know that there are some who is telling the truth, standing up to the RINOs as they are referred and taking a beating for it. You have Sessons, Lee, King from Iowa and Ted Cruz. When you speak of the losers in congress, leave those guys out.

  23. bygeorge says

    Many feel that government is incapable of doing anything honestly and will, by habit, consistently operate in a corrupt manner that alway’s ends up screwing the tax payers. The formula is so entrenched that any GOP reformer will wilt in the face of stiff opposition to any attempts at correction. It must have something to do with all the very rich lawyers up there.

    There is little hope of ever correcting the constant stream of injustices tax payers suffer at the hands of politicians who are beholden to Unions, Wall Street bankers, sanctified non-governmental organizations (NGO’s) and liberal do gooders groups who are all permitted to wallow in the trough of tax payer largess through grants, quantitive easing schemes and awarded contracts. This corruption, hidden behind the gossamer curtain of doing good deeds, causes untold destruction to the free enterprise system and does so without accountability.

    Consider the sad case of former first lady and Democrat presidential hopeful, Hillary Rodham Clinton, once a lawyer, whose active time in the trenches of government service left a trail of bribes, deaths, destruction, misery and despair. Yet, she’s still abides among us, unfazed and untouched wanting to do even more good deeds “for the American people.” She denies any accountability for her crimes because she is protected by the corrupted media and, to do so would ensure her a bed in a prison cell. Why is she even here now? One can only hope!

    This moral malaise of political corruption has also infected our judicial system, one of appointing cronies as jurists who adjudicate according to the political philosophy of the individual(s) who appointed them. Appointed Jurists bask in their sinecures for life; elected Jurists do not. The justice system, once considered trustworthy, is now often proven to be a flawed system where corruption becomes apparent and citizens are exposed to the whims of local despots, federal, state and local, who operate as rouges under the color of their authority. We see that it has even extended to the Supreme Court where no accountability is ever expected or required.

    Laws are made by politicians often with no reference to the people who will be adversely affected. It has become fashionable for lawyers, presumably knowledgable in the legal systems, to believe, and convince voters to believe, that only a lawyer is really capable of being an elected politician. So, character and common sense are trumped by law degrees.

    If lawyers in the judicial systems were actually salaried employees of government, then perhaps incentives to game the system for profit would disappear. A lawyer would be told, “you prosecute this case” and “defend that one.” I realized this idea stands counter to my firm belief in the free-enterprise system but, corruption and injustice calls for sterner measures. I also realize a salaried lawyer, without fear of losing his/her position, can also become a lazy lawyer allowing injustice to prevail often without accountability. The whole system really needs some serious cleaning but, unhappily, there are enough folks involved in the system who are dishonest and corrupt as to consider changes to the system as unnecessary.

    Overall, the government and Judicial systems are flawed and to believe that any corrections will come from within is naïve. This applies to the politicians who rely on Wall Street companies with huge lobbing firms working for more schemes to rip off the tax payers, not reduce them.

    That’s probably why America is nearly $20 Trillion in debt. Corruption, in the hands of dishonest corrupted, immoral people, is devastating to our society and gives Obama and Hillary the very reason to continue their attack on our once great nation. When do we demand an accountability? The political sands are shifting. I think we’ll see it, but it could be awful.

    1. Reality Check says

      You forgot to mention the BIGGEST problem in America.

      The brainwashed Right wing (like yourself) who propagate LIES and BULLSHIT on websites like THIS.
      The even BIGGER problem with Right Wing NOISE that you fools believe verbatim, regardless of how outlandish or moronic. Rush and Savage and the likes pollute the air waves daily with lies and innuendo.

      1. CCblogging says

        You are a liar and an Obama boot licker.

        1. Reality Check says

          I think Obama is a FAILURE, fool of the right, but STILL much better than ANY GOP.

  24. CCblogging says

    Barack Obama and his Globalists are funding the genocide in Ukraine and blaming the carnage on the ethic Russians of east Ukraine and oh course blaming Russia too. The ethic Russians are the victims and your tax dollars are buying people’s deaths there. We are being lied to about Ukraine and I have many video links to prove it. The Obama backed Kiev government is comprised of Nazis. Don’t believe it? A picture is worth a thousand words. Watch.
    Here’s a link to a GERMAN news video and some others………
    This is another showing what the government in Kiev backed by Obama is doing to civilians. The Kiev thugs cross at 3:45 of this video. Its over the River Lugansk. At the end, the reporter translates that the nearest checkpoint held by the freedom fighters is 10 km from the village that was bombed. In other words, there was no military target there……

    1. Reality Check says

      THREE links to NOWHERE?

      good job.
      is that an indication of how good your “info” IS?

      1. CCblogging says

        The links didn’t transfer to this thread. Check the other link above that did transfer. It’s all there and even a mental dwarf like you can probably figure it out.

        1. Reality Check says

          IS the fact that ALL the links only lead to youtube, testament to your lack of grey matter?

        2. Reality Check says

          a day later and the low info con can’t fix his links?

  25. CCblogging says

    Barack Obama’s government is funding and supporting the Nazi Kiev government of Ukraine. This militia in the picture are some of the Nazi Kiev government thugs that your taxes are buying bullets and bombs for. They are killing ethic Russian civilians in east Ukraine. The picture is the Nazis Azov. Yep, that’s a NATO flag on the left and a German Nazi flag on the right. Here’s a link to a GERMAN news video that shows even more…Past this on please. Our fellow Americans need to know about the atrocities committed by the Obama’s Government.

  26. CCblogging says

    America supports these monsters in Ukraine.

  27. Bob Ware says

    Ben Carson. His issues are on his homepage and he is not to weak to do the job regardless of what the media misleads the public into thinking. He has been and is anti-career politician. He is pro-constitution. He is not against people owning guns of their choice of class. The misleading point on that came from a media twist. He only stated he doesn’t see a needs for people to own semi-auto’s in a city. He never said you can’t own one in a city. Look at his website. Morally he wants to heal our broken nation back into what we had before obama divided us into democrat selected groups under their divide and conquer.

  28. Joyce White says

    American voters need to stop acting like spoiled children.If your candidate didn’t get the nomination, so be it. Once the decision is in, we ALL need to get behind the winning candidate and campaign for him or her. If the party of your choice loses the presidency, you may still come out a winner, providing you put some effort into campaigning for the Congressional seats.It isn’t much good to have a president who doesn’t have a Congress to work with.But if we end up with the same kind of president we have now, we are going to need real Americans in Congress, rather than some of the gutless wonders we have been saddles up with these past 7+ yrs.

  29. Danny Deville Sr. says

    The only thing different is the names of the Parties.
    They all promise the moon and give us the outhouse.
    They are all there to get rich.
    To hell with the people.
    We all get exactly what we deserve.
    We can’t even agree on candidates.
    Sad this country is.
    It has gone to hell in a handbag.
    Don’t believe me ? Just look around and soak it in.

    1. Deby says

      Extremely pessimistic view, so do you have a solution?

      1. Danny Deville Sr. says

        Who does Deby ? Who does . They go in worth thousands and come out , If they ever do, worth millions. Do you deny that fact ?
        Nancy Pelosi was questioned about her investments weather it was legal or not.
        What did she do ? Hurried up and gathered all her cronies and passed a law to legalize it.
        That’s just one example off the top of my head.
        She and her husband and partners made millions. All inside information that was illegal at the time.
        They really do some good things for the masses. Yet their works seem to benefit them the most.
        To answer your question Deby, IDK. And no I don’t have the solution . I don’t think anybody does.
        Thanks for your reply.
        It’s good to talk about things.
        Have a wonderful day. {]:)<

  30. ringostarr1 says

    MAHB001, and SheilaRich both deserve a metal for their devotion to their country. Unfortunately the only nation either one is helping is Putin’s Russian Federation. Therefor here is your Order of Lenin Award.

  31. Brad Bryant says

    That’s exactly why we need an outsider, unifier, and healer with a track record of bridging gaps, pulling teams together, reaching consesis and getting complex jobs done. And that man is Dr. Ben Carson.

  32. Gregory Sarmas Sr. says

    Amen to that!!

  33. 73Anne37 says

    Ted Cruz is NOT Constitutionally Eligible to be President or V.P.~! He has a Canadian Birth Certificate, Was Born IN Canada, had a Father who was Not American, & a Mother who may have become a Canadian Citizen Before Ted was Born. He may not even be a Naturalized Citizen~! He Can Not in any Way be a NBC~!

  34. Alleged Comment says

    No. More than half of them are deceived by SATAN and are known as Demoncraps. They will never change and like Moslems the only thing they understand is OVERWHELMING FORCE!

    And the ONLY way to get OVERWHELMING FORCE is an armed populace per the 2nd Amendment right which goes with the 1st Amendment right.

    That is why lieberals and Demoncraps desperately want you disarmed.

    1. Reality Check says

      “That is why lieberals and Demoncraps desperately want you disarmed”

      WHY are you such and IDIOT?

  35. Robert Barnes says

    This post is stupid and pointless, too play a asinine word game. While the big wheels of opression grow stronger.
    Learn the truth see video EVERY THING YOU KNOW IS A LIE and UNITED STATED CORPORATION OF 1871 at

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