Christian Bakers May Lose Property to State

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It’s too bad that Oregon Christians Aaron and Melissa Klein have not received nearly the publicity that Kim Davis got. If more Americans were aware of this couple’s plight, it would put another twist on that religious freedom debate going on right now. Here’s a couple who declined to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple a few years back. Subsequently, the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries ordered the Kleins to pay the lesbians $135,000 to make up for their “emotional suffering.”

Well, it seems the Kleins are refusing to pay. That has state officials back in court, asserting their right to place a lien against the Kleins’ property and assets.

“It’s difficult to understand the Kleins’ unwillingness to pay the debt when they have, very publicly, raised nearly a half million dollars,” labor bureau spokesman Charlie Burr said Wednesday. “They are entitled to a full and fair review of the case, but do not have the right to disregard a legally binding order.”

The Kleins have claimed financial hardship, but since there have been public crowdfunding efforts on their behalf, these officials are saying that excuse isn’t going to fly.

So they’re going to go in there and do what? Take this family’s home so these poor lesbians can begin the healing process with a trip to Hawaii? That’s what this couple wants?

Wow, and it’s the Christians who are the hateful ones, remember.

Do these state officials take into account how they’ve basically destroyed this family’s business? And, you know, that part’s fair. It’s disgusting and it’s really quite sick in this case, but it’s fair. If people want to boycott your business for something you said or did, that’s the way the free market works. Plenty of corporations have rued the day they crossed conservatives, though that rarely happens anymore, unfortunately.

But when the state orders you to pay out six figures for adhering to your beliefs…that’s really just as bad as what they did to Davis. And, frankly, it’s for a much lesser form of resistance. Discrimination laws…they just simply don’t apply, even if you buy into the idea that gays should be a protected group. The Kleins – like every other business owner that has been persecuted and prosecuted in this war – did not refuse to serve gay customers. They refused to participate in a gay ceremony.

Now, that would be one thing if it was understood that a business owner has to do anything a customer requests of him. And hey, you have to admit that would be a fun policy for a little while. But it’s ridiculous to pretend like that’s the case. Go into a T-shirt shop and order a dozen shirts with a racist slogan on the front. Will you be accommodated? Probably not. And no one would be the least bit surprised or outraged at the shop. Because of course a business does not have to make you whatever thing you want.

So, what is next? Will stores have to meet “gay product” quotas, to make sure all customers are equally represented? Will barbers be fined for not being proficient in the latest gay hairstyles? How equal is equal enough? And how many good Americans are going to fall victim to this insanity before this country wakes up?

710 Comments
  1. FreedomTrainUSA says

    This situation is TOTAL LIBERAL INSANITY…

    1. Coolcat says

      The new religion is Satanic liberalism.

      1. Croco Dile says

        The same as “old” religions !

        It is easier to believe, than to reason, and people prefer the marvels of romances to the simplicity of history. – Charles Francois Dupuis, 1742-1809, a french professor

        People are caught in this FALSE left-right-paradigm, and this site is doing a great job of feeding this nonsense some more :

  2. ONEOLDWHITEGUY says

    THIS COUNTRY IS FINISHED.

  3. daveveselenak says

    This is what the delusional Leftists have voted for: Hope & Change – they didn’t realize that it was “TRANSFORMATION” into a Godless, totalitarian “Dick-taker-ship”! REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION!

    Our Gov’t has been diagnosed with an aggressive, deadly cancer which needs to be treated ASAP for as it spreads it does extensive damage to the quality of life of our nation. Everything else becomes a much lower priority, for treating & eradicating It as quickly as possible is of prime importance to our survival. All cancers have a name & this particular caner is called the “Communist & Radical Muslim Takeover of America” or CRMTOA for short.

    This cancer has infiltrated our Gov’t for quite some time. It started out very slowly to spread & as it did it damaged America & it’s people. The symptoms of the disease seemed liked a cold then the flu for the longest time, coming & going The American people should have gone to the Doctor to get checked out, but we kept putting it off. However, recently the symptoms worsened & America’s people began to suffer more & more. The cancer continued to worsen as well as spread & our nation was growing very sick. then within the last 4-5 years the cancer escalated within our country ravaging nearly every aspect of its well being.
    after many tests the results clear showed it was CRMTOA cancer which had mutated into a strain the Doctor called BHORL, which stood for the “Barrack Hussein Obama Regime plus Liberalism.

    So the American Gov’t has a very deadly fast growing cancer with it’s origin located in Washington D.C, & emanating specifically from the White House & Capital Bldg. which are the heart of our nation. The Doctors were asked how did we get this disease & why has it worsened so quickly. They said the constant violation & abuse of the US Constitution by greedy, power seeking politicians who through their selfishness took what once was a healthy functioning Gov’t with 3 coequal branches of Gov’t which served the purpose of maintaining its health & with the help of lawyers destroyed it. The source of the aggressive growth of this cancer was being caused by none other than the questionable POTUS Barrack Obama, his close associates Valerie Jarrett & Eric Holder, who it is believed obtained much of their sinister instruction from an elite oligarchy..

    To save our free Republic immediate treatment & eradication of every bit of this cancer must be undertaken as the top priority. But the nation is confused about how to eradicate this cancer. Many Conservative believe that focusing on the 2016 Presidential elections is the answer putting all their hope in the hands of a new POTUS who will destroy the disease, solve all of America’s problems & make us great once again. Liberals who strong adhere to the ideology of Liberalism which is poison & evil see no disease but believe what is occurring in America is exactly what should be to finally attain the global utopia they desire. But neither of these groups understand anything about cancer & are putting our free Republic in danger of collapsing from within & dying. Being a cancer survivor, understanding it & seeing what happens if it’s not completely eradicate & returns I would suggest a different approach in dealing with it.

    IMO, Americans need to first put the 2016 elections on the back burner & come together & eradicate the cancer by literally removing the traitor in the White House, his treasonous regime & all treasonous Liberals, RINOS in Congress who are all a part of this cancer. If it is not removed I don’t care who is elected POTUS he will be fighting this cancer rather than restoring America & sadly the cancer will win. Don’t minimize the strength & aggressiveness of this cancer. Unless we can go into this election cancer free, we will eventually relapse & die. Can you understand this?

    Obama is a very stubborn & aggressive cancer, he still has 1.5 years left in his term (assuming he leaves) & he can do a hell of a lot of damage to our nation in this time. This cancer must be removed now, If this isn’t dealt with now there very well may not be any 2016 elections. Obama could literally rule over our country as a Dictator & transform it both a communist totalitarian state which is Muslim nation with Sharia law as the law of the land.

    What will it take for Americans to rise up as Patriots & remove the cancer which is destroying America from within? I wish I knew.

    Joseph Stalin said ““America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” Since at least from 1970-current Liberalism has made this quote their mission statement.

    The truth about America is that the cancer of Liberalism is destroying it, In essence Liberalism = Socialism = Communism. Barrack Hussein Obama & many other Gov’t officials are communists. Liberalism is poison, it’s evil & for some reason no one is willing to take stand against it & remove it. Those that think a new POTUS will solve all of America’s problems simply don’t understand the nature of cancer & how hard it is to become cancer free.

    America needs to make some very hard decisions, decisions which could either save America & its freedom or kill America. If America dies it along with Canada & Mexico will become part of the North America Union. America’s sovereignty & constitution will be absolved. It is my belief that all will be relinquished to the United Nations. The EU, the Arab League, Africa, South America & all other nations will do the same & as a result the NWO will be created.

    Having dealt with cancer repeatedly I believe it must take top priority & be eradicate. If it’s not it will return with a vengeance. I’ve seen this happen too many times before. Even the Declaration of Independence supports this radical but necessary approach. Read more at Special Operations Speaks – See more at: https://specialoperationsspeaks.com/current-news/our-government-has-an-aggressive-cancer#sthash.uFwYd69N.dpuf

    1. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

      The Great Reset is coming, folks. Be sure that you have enough ammo on hand to participate.

      1. Croco Dile says

        The patriot movements are succeeding brillantly at the one thing they are designed to do, unbeknowst to their members – waste everyone’s time and energy steering them into a dead end. They are allowed to “flourish” and are financed precisely because they can NEVER succeed in creating meaningful change.

        http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/power-is-someething-you-take/

        1. daveveselenak says

          Until the sheeple have an epiphany there will be no “Hope & Change! AMERIKA needs to be informed ASAP of the reality of the communist takeover which 95% of them are not! We no longer have a free press because if we did then news such as this would be heard on the daily propaganda spewers – FOX FAKERS included! There are three radio broadcasts, I have listened to the Sept 26th one – an hour – and it reveals just how successful the communist revolution has been as it gives a history of our current communists in VERY HIGH places including our Muslim-Marxist jihadist in the “Outhouse”, his regime, senators and congress persons – former and present – and media! Unless the nation can be informed about this then they will continue down the highway to TYRANNY; misery, squalor and servitude and that is why it is imperative to get our guns and that is why we have all of these False Flags occurring at an alarming rate! Educate your friends and family and spread the dire truth by listening to these damning radio broadcasts or doi nothing!

          In the most recent must-hear episode of LoudonClear on the TK Radio Network, Trevor discusses the communist ties of Obama and his cronies.

        2. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

          Again, your whackadoodle hysteria does not match the facts, douchebag. If any Militias have been “financed”, by anyone, please send me the link where we can sign up for it. We haven’t received a dime.

          Go on believing that the Militias haven’t made a difference. Just keep waving at those empty planes above your Fantasy Island, Tattoo.

          1. Croco Dile says

            Your movement may be an exception.
            But there are not many…..

          2. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            Ours is not a “movement”, but a lifestyle; one that has grown out of our commitment to the preservation of Liberty and the preservation of Civilization. Owning tactical firearms, being proficient in their use, being ready to fight to defend what matters to us, and being a part of the local Militia is all just part of our culture. This is who we are.

            Our county is home to the largest firearms retailer in Arizona, and they have been equipping our county’s citizens with scary black tactical firearms, full-capacity magazines, and crates full of military surplus ammunition for *decades*. We and everyone else in our county have been taking full advantage of that retailer, and of the multitude of gun shows that occur in Arizona.

            I have been to that store many times and seen entire crates full of rifles going out the door and into a private citizen’s pickup truck. Those weren’t intended for hunting deer, either.

            At those gun shows, private sellers and private buyers routinely exchange money for firearms, magazines, and ammunition with zero government involvement or notification. As a result, ninety percent of the firearms in my home’s gun safes are there without any knowledge of the federal, state, or county government. We refer to these kinds of paperless firearms transactions as “rain forest friendly”. Anonymous ownership and possession of tactical firearms is part of our culture, too.

            Arizona has enjoyed Constitutional Open Carry of firearms, both sidearms and long irons, since before statehood in 1912. Concealed Carry has not required a permit since 2010. Everyone I am acquainted with in our area will routinely carry their firearm openly, concealed, or both.

            My wife and I have been “plussing up” our inventory for the past ten years. We have on hand right now enough tactical firearms, extra magazines, ammunition, tactical clothing, two-way radios, and tactical field gear to fully equip five others besides ourselves. We have enough “hunting” firearms, ammunition, tactical clothing, two-way radios, and tactical field gear to fully outfit another five. We keep those extras on hand, completely filling one of our spare bedrooms, just for the eventuality that we will need to equip and arm others to fight alongside of us. I am fully qualified to train those volunteers in Tactical Ground Operations from my years of service as a Light Infantry Officer in the US Army, as well as from the private training that I have received (and provided to others) since separating from the regulars.

            My wife and I are both licensed Amateur Radio Operators, we maintain the equipment that allows us to talk across the county or around the world, and we volunteer with our valley’s Emergency Communications Association. We are also both involved in our local American Legion, so our network of contacts continues to grow every week.

            And we are typical for our area. There are plenty others in our area who are better prepared than we are.

            If there is such a thing as the “gun culture”, then we are living in its cultural capitol.

            The same can be said for the “Prepper culture” that permeates our valley. We have more neighbors who have been Prepping for years than those who have not. Our unincorporated town, and the canyon that it sits in, enjoy abundant water, a rarity here in Arizona. Good soil and a long growing season have resulted in this year bringing us and our neighbors a bumper crop of vegetables from our gardens and fruit from our orchards. There has been so much food produced in our canyon that we have all been giving away what cannot be eaten, canned, or sold at our weekly Farmer’s Market . I am still munching on plums that came from one of our neighbor’s trees.

            Our valley is steeped in attitudes of self-reliance and fierce independence. That has proven to be fertile ground for growing the Militia in our area. We did not need any outside help to make that happen. Indeed, it could not have been stopped by a lack of funds, for we enjoy an abundance of self-sufficiency around here.

            It is our attitudes, our culture, and our strength as free Men and Women that has grown our Militia, not outside funding.

      2. Michael Dennewitz says

        Loaded and super ready.. Closet can’t hold any more. I wanna shoot little faggot trolls first, like CrocoShit !!!

        1. Croco Dile says

          We might have reason to apprehend a union between the “clear-sighted” force of the goy kings on their thrones and the “blind” force of the goy mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a mutual terror between them. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.

          1. proudtexan62 says

            You are so deluded it’s actually funny!!!

        2. Coolcat says

          Ditto!

        3. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

          Same here, brother.

          Don’t waste a round on CrocoDouche, he is hardly worth it. He is just another pitiful, whining little b|tich whose parents were first cousins.

      3. Cotton says

        I can’t wait for another pointless civil war! Will it be the South versus the North again?

        1. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

          Nope, it will be Patriots vs douchebag Obamunist traitors.

          Guess which side nearly all of our combat Veterans, firearms owners, and Militia count themselves on?

          Not to mention our current Active Duty military. The Zero has not been able to completely fill it up with godless deviants just yet, and he is busy reducing the military’s manpower, cutting their funding, and utterly emascualting them. Those who might choose to fight for The Zero will be in the extreme minority, and they won’t be combat effective.

          I can say this because I served on Active Duty in a ground combat unit. Once it starts, it will be less of a “Civil War” and more of a “Skunk Hunt”.

          1. Cotton says

            Good luck with that then!

          2. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            We would certainly stand a much better chance of surviving such an event than any of the contemptible, degenerate, reprobate, douchebag Obamazombies would.

            Good luck with your silly fracking “Hope and Change” Bovine Scatology.

          3. Cotton says

            If you can build an army then go ahead. I can imagine the type of soldiers you would have already. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab55f6b8400d7d651ad90ce76c7b8ba0add399f5cfb3004322691874e477c7b1.png
            Pretty badass if you ask me.

          4. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            You are living proof of the design of the so-called Liberal “brain”:

            http://rlv.zcache.com/typical_liberal_brain_card-p137113669758420047q0yk_400.jpg#Liberal%20brain%20400×400

            Go ahead and keep believing that the Militia is composed entirely of overweight Rednecks with health issues. I am pretty sure that believing that kind of propaganda is somehow more comforting to you than actually looking at the facts. Facts are scary, and Libtard douchebags do not have the intellectual or emotional capacity to deal with them.

            Just keep waving at those empty planes flying over your Fantasy Island, Tattoo.

            I am a fairly typical example of the members of the Arizona Militia. I am six feet tall and weigh 220 pounds. I am lean, muscular, and fit, both physically and medically, according to our family physician. Living on several wooded acres in the very rural and rugged Arizona mountains means that there is always outside work to do, so that keeps both me and my wife quite fit and healthy. Breathing clean air, drinking clean well water, and eating right don’t hurt, either.

            I served for 14 years in the United States Army. I was not a clerk, nor was I a Cook or Mechanic. I worked hard to become an Airborne-qualified Light Infantry Officer. I graduated the Infantry Officers Course at Ft Benning, Georgia with honors. I have led a Light Infantry Rifle Platoon, as well as other Infantry units. The Army trained me extensively in Land Warfare, so the conduct of Tactical Ground Operations is something that I was required to become a Subject Matter Expert on.

            Since separating from the Regulars in 1999, I have received plenty of additional tactical training from private sources and I have conducted plenty of tactical training for members of the Militia. I am and always will be a Warrior, first and foremost.

            My wife and I have have spent the last ten years stocking up on enough scary black tactical fireams, full-capacity magazines, and crates full of surplus military ammunition to fully outfit five others besides ourselves. Add in all of the “hunting” firearms in our gun safes, and we could fully equip another five. We have also stocked up on two-way radios and plenty of tactical clothing and field gear, enough for ten others besides ourselves. All of those extras are taking up just about every square inch of one of our spare bedrooms. And we are not done stocking up, not by a long shot.

            Our aim is to keep “plussing up” until the festivities begin, and then issue those arms and equipment out to those who we know are qualified to fight alongside of us.

            We live in a very rural part of the Arizona mountains. Our county seat is home to the largest firearms dealer in the state, and they have been equipping our county’s citizens with scary black tactical fireams, full-capacity magazines, and crates full of surplus military ammunition for *decades*. I have been standing inside that store when entire crates full of rifles went out the door and into a fellow citizen’s vehicle. And those rifles weren’t intended for hunting deer, either.

            I know quite a few people in our area, and only one of them does not own a firearm suitable for the Militia. And he is considered the “oddball” in our community.

            Self-sufficiency, self-reliance, and fierce attitudes of independence permeate our valley and the county that surrounds us. If there is such a thing as “the gun culture”, then we are living in its cultural capitol.

            Oh, you did get one part right, I am a dyed-in-the-wool, true-blue, honest-to-God American Redneck, and I proud of it. I am a Redneck with a Bachelor’s degree in Political Science, a minor in Military Science, decades of professional military training, lots and lots of scary black tactical firearms, and plenty of neighbors and friends who are just like me.

            Since I was born and raised in the deep South, I routinely fly 10 (ten) Confederate Battle Flags outside of our home for every major Patriotic holiday, just to make the local Libturds squeal and rage and impotent douchebag fury. I amuses us greatly to watch them fume and rant, way off at the edge of our private property. They know better than to trespass, that’s for sure.

            That flag does not represent “racism”, no matter how much the LIbtards might decree that it does. It instead represents something *much* more offensive to the delicate vaginal sensitivities of the reprobate, degenerate, douchebag Obamunist retards: DEFIANCE.

            In short, the Militia is not something that we *do*, it is who we *are*. And we will continue to DEFY all of you degenerate wannabe totalitarians to our last breath.

            Now go have a nice, long cry on your toilet while you are changing your tampon, Buttercup.

          5. Cotton says

            I thought it was a joke at first to build an armed militia, but you seem fully serious. Why would you need a mass of high powered weapons? Who the heck would you need to kill or defend yourself from with such firepower?

          6. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            I have been organizing and training Militia volunteers since the year 2008, so if it were a joke, you would have seen us laughing about it by now.

            You started out by dismissing and marginalizing the Militia, and now you are concerned about the fact that we are quite real and fully capable of defending ourselves? Well, I suppose that shows that you are making *some* progress, however small. You are at least taking the Militia seriously now. When your concern grows into worry, that might be when you become ready to start seriously pursuing more in-depth knowledge about who we are and what we do. That is when you should start studying up.

            As to “why” and “who”, we consider the answer to those questions to be painfully self-evident. That you cannot see the answer for yourself tells me that you have not quite overcome your suffering from the mental illness known as Liberalism. You need to work on that, Scooter.

            Anyone with the good sense that God gave a waterbug already knows the answer to those questions.

            To those of us who understand The Threat, no explanation is necessary. To those of you who do not yet grasp that threat, even at this late date in history, no explanation is even possible. You just simply do not have the intellectual or emotional capacity to grasp the facts. Facts actually *bother* you and your ilk. Your kind tend to feel that facts are no more than inconvenient little things that must be overlooked when they do not fit into your whacky Libturd agenda.

            So, study up, Buttercup. There will be a test soon. Let’s see if you can get ready to pass it.

          7. Cotton says

            Please by all means tell me the facts then, as from what I am seeing you would want to destroy the entire left-wing. But seemingly most people on here want to do that anyways so it really comes as no surprise. The hatred seeps deep into you and I am sorry you have such feelings by anyone who is slightly on the left side. I hope you can open up to more formal discussion and less pointless libel. I am here to learn what the far right truly is, and trust me it truly is insane on this side as well as the other. It helps me learn that being moderate makes you a better person, as going too deep into either side makes you blind to the other.

          8. proudtexan62 says

            Oh no, not all the left. Only those who are true communist, socialist, Marxist, Nazi, radical muslim Islamic terrorist followers and supporters of the “teleprompter king”. Those on the left who have been threatened (them and their families) who are right leaning liberals are the ones who committed to supporting our efforts to stop Obama’s destructive agenda in 2014 are at least worthy of a second look. Only American Patriots need apply. Those who support Obummer and his band of thieves in Washington who are bent on destruction of this country are and will continue to be the targets of the “American Militia”. Did that clear some of the cobwebs out of that senseless liberal brain of yours??? There was a time when moderates did exist in this country but that has become a thing of the past because the left has become the Communist Party of America and there is no room on the right to be “moderate” with that threat prevailing.

          9. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            So, you believe that you possess the intellectual and emotional capacity
            to handle the facts? I sincerely doubt that, but let’s see if you can
            stand to read all the way through what follows without closing your
            eyes, plugging your ears, and whining while stamping your feet like a
            spoiled child.

            You and I are clearly from different tribes. And,
            like all tribes, we will eventually go to war with one another. There
            is no benefit to my being even slightly “moderate” when dealing with a
            traitorous blood enemy. Becoming more “moderate” does not in any way
            make me a “better person”, it only makes me a less effective Warrior.

            I
            won’t be the one that starts that war, but by God I intend to finish
            it. That has been the main focus of most of my adult life. I have
            always been a Warrior, and I have no inclination to be anything less. To
            me, *every* other endeavor is something less. My life’s journey is the
            Warrior’s Walk. You and your ilk will never, ever be able to change
            that.

            Calling what I feel “hatred” would be giving far too much
            credit to the enemies of our nation and of Western Civilization. What I
            feel is not Hate, but Contempt.

            Hate requires a component of
            Respect, just as Love does. Too many idiots incorrectly believe that
            Hate and Love are opposites, when they are clearly not. They both
            require that same component of Respect. The opposite of Love is Apathy.
            The opposite of Hate is Contempt.

            Ask yourself, “Does Empathy
            make one a better Warrior?”. The answer is that it does not. I have no
            Empathy for the Liberal point of view simply because it is the point of
            view of complete Whackadoodles who are the enemies of everything that I
            believe in and hold dear.

            Dr Lyle Rossiter said it best in his book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness”:

            http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/0977956318/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1443456328&sr=8-1&keywords=the+liberal+mind

            “To
            rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial
            of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity,
            fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes
            violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores
            rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and
            the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social
            tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of
            citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services
            and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s
            material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s
            self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage,
            educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions.”

            “Radical
            liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given
            its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and
            given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no
            question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda
            would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which
            ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to
            run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he
            can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately
            undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt
            him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for
            government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare
            dependency.”

            “Only a madman would look at a community of free
            people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by
            villains.”

            [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

            So,
            to your suggestion that I adopt a more “moderate” view of LIberalism, I
            say thank you, but no. You people are clearly all Whackadoodles, and
            dangerous ones to boot.

            When I was trained by the U.S. Army, we
            were not trained to build schools or to make nice with the local
            savages, we were instead trained to be very, very good at two things:

            1. Kill the Enemy
            2. Break all of his stuff

            That’s
            it, that’s the sum total of what I was trained to do. And I became
            very, very good at both of those. We never had to worry about speaking a
            foreign language because if we were ever sent someplace, we weren’t
            being sent there to talk. Back in those days, you did not send us
            someplace that you did not want us to utterly destroy.

            Sending
            Soldiers to play patty-cake with the contemptible camel-frackers is
            something that the Liberal retards came up with. That is what the
            fucking Peace Corps is supposed to be doing, not Soldiers.

            Keep
            in mind that I earned my Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science while
            simultaneously earning my officer’s commission through the U.S. Army
            ROTC program. I then went on to receive a Graduate-level education in
            Land Warfare at the U.S. Army Infantry School at Ft Benning, Georgia,
            where I graduated with honors.

            A significant portion of that
            course involved how to recognize and identify the enemy, who at the time
            were all Communists. This was when Ronald Reagan was our
            Commander-in-Chief, so that focus of the course had been strengthened by
            his Executive Order. As a result I am very, very qualified to recognize
            and identify Communists. I was trained to put them in the dirt in lots
            of different ways, too. I have forgotten none of those lessons.

            So
            when I do my trained, professional, and eminently qualified evaluation
            of Liberals or “Progressives”, I am not fooled in the slightest by
            clever phrasing, puffery, obfuscation, or posturing. So I am able to
            see them clearly as nothing less than Socialists and Communists. Make
            your arguments against my evaluation to someone else, you are not going
            to sway my educated judgment against you and your ilk. I am better
            qualified to make that call than you will ever be.

            You are all
            Collectivist Totalitarians of the worst order, and have thoroughly
            earned Winston Churchill’s scathing indictment of you all:

            “…the exalted ideal of the Socialists – a universal brotherhood, owning
            all things in common – is not always supported by the evidence of their
            practice.
            They put before us a creed of universal self-sacrifice. They preach it
            in the language of spite and envy, of hatred, and all uncharitableness.
            They tell us that we should dwell together in unity and comradeship.
            They are themselves split into twenty obscure factions, who hate and
            abuse each other more than they hate and abuse us. ”

            “They wish
            to reconstruct the world. They begin by leaving out human nature.
            Consider how barren a philosophy is the creed of absolute Collectivism.
            Equality of reward, irrespective of service rendered! It is expressed in
            other
            ways. You know the phrase – ‘From each according to his ability, to each
            according to his need.’ How nice that sounds”.

            “Let me put it another way – ‘You shall work according to your fancy; you shall be paid according to your appetite.’ ”

            “Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
            gospel of envy.”

            (Winston said it much better than I ever could, which is why I love quoting him.)

            Winston
            saw Liberalism and “Progressivism” for exactly what they are, mere
            costume party masks for Socialism and Communism. THAT is why I hold all
            LIberals in such utter Contempt. You are not fooling anyone with
            your act.

            Because I am a professionally trained Land Warrior,
            THAT is why I can see that our differences can only ultimately be
            settled with fire, steel, and bloodshed. And I can clearly see that
            your brethren have been positioning themselves to start a war of
            genocide against our nation’s true Patriots. THAT is why I will never,
            ever do anything less than keep myself razor sharp and ready to fight. I
            know what is coming, and none of your kind’s soothing platitudes are
            ever going to convince me otherwise.

            If War is the remedy that our nation’s enemy evemtually chooses, then I will *always* be ready to give him a bellyful of it.

            I
            took my Oath while I was still only a Cadet, and my Oath did not have
            an expiration date. I swore to defend the Constitution of the United
            States of America against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. As a
            result, I have spent thirty-plus years keeping myself physically and
            medically fit, as well as technically and tactically sound. Land
            Warfare is something that I understand intimately, so I have spent the
            majority of my life keeping myself sharp as a razor in preparation for
            that endeavor.

            Go ahead, start the War. You would
            essentially be setting me loose upon all of you and your ilk. Right
            now, it takes every ounce of my professional self-restraint *not* to
            unload on every Liberal Whackadoodle that I am forced to endure. I try
            my best to avoid encountering your kind, but for some reason, LIberal
            Whack Jobs just feel compelled to inflict themselves upon me like some
            kind of fucking disease. For now, I just smile and walk away. I then
            usually swing by our local Wal-Mart and pick up another couple hundred
            rounds of ammunition. That is what I call “retail therapy”.

            But
            my self-restraint will go out the window the nanosecond that the
            Obamunist Regime starts their coming war of genocide against our
            nation’s Patriots.

            When I received my Honorable Discharge from
            the U.S. Army in 1999, I immediately went to work organizing and leading
            volunteer tactical patrols
            on private property along our southern
            border, in all four of our southern border states. I have personally
            seen armed, uniformed foreign troops cross into our nation. I have seen
            those armed, uniformed foreign troops fire upon American citizens. I
            have seen our citizens return fire and send those foreign troops running
            south, screaming like little girls. I have seen those foreign troops
            drop like sacks of potatoes straight into their Eternal Celestial Dirt
            Nap. And I gathered a great deal of personal satisfaction from
            witnessing that happen multiple times, because I had personally trained
            most of our own side’s volunteers.

            I mention the above only to
            serve as an small example of my resolve. No one paid me to do all that.
            No one drafted me to serve in the Militia, that was done by choice and
            because of my nature. I am a qualified combat Infantryman and a
            qualified Light Infantry leader. So I volunteered to train and lead
            others in combat against that foreign enemy. And we were staggeringly
            successful at sending those contemptible douchebags to the Hereafter in
            great numbers.

            That I have slept quite soundly every night
            since then should give you some indication of how little those
            douchebags’ passing bothered me. That fact alone should indicate to you
            how little I would be bothered by the passing of Liberals,
            “Progressives”, Socialists, and other contemptible Communist douchebags.

            I will leave you with this tidbit of information to ponder for your future:

            Every
            Militia unit in our nation has been aware that the Obamunist Regime has
            been positioning themselves for a war of genocide against our nation’s
            Patriots since early 2009. We know what your brethren have been doing
            in your name, and we know why.

            But a significant portion of the
            Obamunists’ plan hinges on the contributions of what Stalin termed
            “useful idiots”; the moles, spies, collaborators, whores, and other
            servile toadies who will be all too eager to bow down to lick the hands
            of our Oppressors once the Obamacide begins. If you think for a moment
            that we cannot see ahead of time who would be most likely to become
            their servile toadies, you are kidding yourself.

            Every Militia
            unit in America maintains an Intel section. Those Intel sections may
            vary in the scope and extent of their duties, but they all share one
            duty in common, and that is to maintain a list of everyone in their
            community who is most be likely to become one of the Obamunists’ toadies
            upon the beginning of such a campaign of Martial Law and the genocide
            that would accompany it.

            We have no intention of leaving enemies
            alive behind us to stab us in the back as we face the enemy. Once the
            Obamunists institute Martial Law and the elimination of our nation’s
            Patriots, the Militias will pull out those lists and start eliminating
            the toadies-in-waiting. If you think that your name and home address
            are not already on your local Militia’s list, you are delusional.

            No,
            it will not be pretty. Yes, it would probably be judged as a “War
            Crime” under the Law of Land Warfare (with which I became intimately
            familiar as an Army Officer). No, that possible judgement will not
            deter the Militia from eliminating any perceived threats that might
            arise to our rear in the form of those Liberals, “Progressives”,
            Socialists, and other Communists in our midst. We would never be so
            foolish as to allow those kind to remain alive to betray us from behind.

            Like I said, you and I are from very different tribes. Tribal Warfare has always been the most brutal, and the most bloody.

            So, once the Obamunists finally come for us, your local Militia will be coming for *you*.

            Go ahead, start that party. See what happens.

          10. proudtexan62 says

            Trust us when we say, IT’S NOT A JOKE!!!

          11. beegeegirl says

            yeah … can’t you just see the gays out there with their ”flag” and their little limp wrists saying ” oh stop, just stop ” and expecting those with brains to just stop hitting them ??? I love the idea of it !!! I do not hate gays, I hate what they are forcing the rest of us into … their perverted world !!! they are delusional if they think they can win this one !!! WE THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH !!!

    2. sandraleesmith46 says

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    3. Croco Dile says

      ALL delisional voters, not just the “leftists”, but all the “rightists” too, do vote for the same thing – HOPE and CHANGE.

      Ferdinand Lundberg wrote in his book The Rich and The Super-Rich (chapter XIII “The Cleverness of the Rich”) :

      As there is no other effective way for candidates to get on the ballot, the primary is the political key that unlocks all doors.

      “It ought to be plain, then,” says Kent, “that so long as the machine controls the primaries, it is in a position to limit the choice of the voters in the general election to its choice in the primaries. That is the real secret of its power, and, so long as it holds that power, it cannot be put out of business. Defeating its candidates in the general election not only does not break its grip, it often does not make even a dent in it. The only place the machine can be beaten is in the primaries.”

      As Kent points out, by not participating in the primaries the general voter loses at least 50% of the effectiveness of his franchise. He thereby assumes his actual political status -a second-class citizen. Nobody has chased the common man away from the primaries. He just does not feel up to participating. His democratic franchise here he finds just too much to handle. He does not, in fact, have anything to contribute; he is politically empty. As a result, the party apparatus and candidates on both tickets belong to professionals, often men never heard of in the community, usually men of limited outlook. They function behind the scenes. They have the party power.

      The party managers must find men ready, able and willing to campaign and at the same time men who will be acceptable to a broad, culturally differentiated, intellectually and emotionally low-grade public – Mencken’s boobs, Barnum’s suckers, Kipling’s “muddied oafs.” The party managers are, contrary to common supposition, restricted to a very narrow potential group, with characteristics shared by less than 5% of the population. The inferior types that predominate in politics seem to satisfy the Elite. One can easily make deals with them. They are purchasable.

      1. proudtexan62 says

        The right has NEVER VOTED FOR OBAMA’S BRAND OF HOPE AND CHANGE. We are all going to vote for Hope and Change in 2016, HOPING that Obama makes his new home on Mars and builds his library there and that we CHANGE every illegal thing Obama has done, and the list is very long, back to business as usual prior to the end of the new Republican President’s first term in office.

  4. JONDO says

    Go ahead, bake a cake for them, they cant tell you what to put in it . I guarantee they wouldn’t want another one. Thr is a time to arm ourselves and this is one of them This is legalized robbery by a bunch of homosexual lawyers and queers backed by a crooked government who will just stand by and watch.

    1. Pamela says

      So true, but then they will sue them for making a bad cake!!! Homosexuals and muslims need to go! And I don’t care how bad that sounds. They are anti Christ and do not need to be in this Christian nation.

      1. Croco Dile says

        The system of state-sponsored religions is to keep people’s minds clouded and keeping them from thinking clearly. – Joseph Atwill

        Religions are in decline, and this is a good thing.

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        2. Michael Dennewitz says

          Oh no !! That faggot little TROLL CROCO SHIT is back!! TROLL ALERT ! FAGGOT TROLL ALERT !!

          1. Croco Dile says

            AHHHH…. Mr. Witzidiot is opening his mouth again.
            And out comes SH*T, as usual !

          2. proudtexan62 says

            This a picture of you, Croco Dile? This looks like a hog to me, not a crocodile.

          3. Croco Dile says

            Then why are you asking, silly texan ?

          4. proudtexan62 says

            I’m not asking anything but confirming that’s a self portrait. You need to change your name. I’m not silly…..you are the silly one!!!

          5. Croco Dile says

            Are you really THAT silly ?!!!

          6. beegeegirl says

            ah … a self portrait !!! bet you were a real looker back in the day, crocoshit !!!

          7. Hopefull1 says

            I don’t think the muslims will like that picture.

        3. proudtexan62 says

          Hope you can dodge that lightening bolt when it comes down on the real estate you are standing on.

          1. Croco Dile says

            Nonsense, silly texan !
            Keep your silly fearmongering for your grandchildren.
            There you may have some success.

          2. proudtexan62 says

            There is no fear mongering there. It is simple fact. You keep on believing what you believe until it happens. I am not at all afraid of the life beyond this one so I have nothing to fear. I have several grandchildren and they are not afraid of eternity either. It’s actually something we have to look forward to, especially in times like the present when evil is trying it’s best to consume us. We will not allow it so you might as well pack up and get ready to go with your communist, radical Muslim terrorist when he leaves. I’m sure he will be happy to take you all with him…..you are his people!!!!

        4. worn out 123 says

          Can’t wait till they are no more. People will be eating one another. Rape and murder will be even more commonplace. You actually believe colleges can instill morality? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

          1. Croco Dile says

            Can you clarify, 123 ?

          2. Phoebe Isley says

            Not to be rude but Croco Dile…you know exactly what worn out 123 is saying. Don’t play dumb it’s insulting to your intelligence. This country is exactly as worn out 123 commented. Let me make this simple…this country is upside down and it’s because what use to be “abnormal” is now becoming the “norm” and it’s not cutting it!!! It’s plain and simple.

          3. Croco Dile says

            A land is composed of people.

            Ferdinand Lindbergh 1968

            We should find a meaningful term for the masses with reference to their inadequacies of judgment. I propose, therefore, that they be regarded, in varying degrees, as handicapped, crippled, unable to make sound judgments and decisions in their own self-interest. They live blindly in a system that offers wide although not unlimited free choice and they are unable to choose wisely. They are victims of their own choices. Nobody protects them from themselves ! The masses are handicapped in that they are ready believers in tales and promises of nimbler wits, prone to give credence to the improbable or very doubtful. They believe that some obvious charlatan – a preacher, a politician, a vendor of cheap merchandise – is going to do something very good for them at only a slight fee or absolutely free. At their most extreme these people are the followers of astrologers, spiritualists, religious dervishes and messiahs of all kinds, very often political messiahs. They tend strongly to resist whatever is objectively the case if it does not harmonize with their delusions.

            Gullibility and muddle-headedness are functions of insufficient intelligence. The intelligent person is prone to make significant distinctions, to analyze, compare, reflect and seek out difficulties in proffered propositions whether flattering or promising to himself or not.Skeptical self-analysis is beyond the powers of the gullible because they already feel insecure, must (as they say) “believe in something” if only in believing. Intimations of any lack in their judgment are resisted. Hence it follows that they believe whatever ethnic, religious or national group to which they belong is inherently superlative. Having little sense of individual identity, they derive their identity from some extensive tribe – hence White Supremacy, Black Power, God-Jesus, Dallas Cowboys, etc.

          4. worn out 123 says

            Where do you thing hundreds of millions of people in North America have sought out a written sense of morality upon which to base society itself? The Bible is like the mask in the movie The Mask. There is much that can be learned from philosophers if one takes time to sift through the mountain of B.S. that is out there. People seeking a moral life, a written reference for owns own guidance as well as one that allows respect for and of others CAN be found in the Bible ***if that is what is seeking when reading the Bible***. Like the mask that edifies in the movie, the Bible allows one knowledge to use to benefit a good and moral life OR to abusively use in the opposite; not so different than a gun that can be used for survival or murder. The Bible is a pathway millions(more recently) have used for good or evil, but, most have used to learn what good they can do just by living a certain way. Destroy Christianity and morality for hundreds of millions goes with it like the old expression; throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
            Millions of North Americans CANNOT LIVE A MORAL LIFE WITHOUT their Biblical teachings. GET IT? Another “religion” will take its place. Bet on it. Black Lives Matter, Islamic Terrorism, whatever will forge a new sense of morality and it will not be pretty. That I can promise. What you see in government today is people who embrace one or more of the seven deadly sins, greed, pride, and envy appear foremost today. It is not colleges that teach morality. Where will it come from when liars, greedy, and envious are the envy of all and Christianity (the root of moral behavior) is cut off? Government is all there will be to teach. This Hitler, Poi Pot, Stalin and others knew full well. Several books and plays have been written to spread this truth to the world, btw. The only thing in this world that can temper government is morality which comes to the masses from Christianity today. When Christianity devolves there is nothing to slow government from increasing its power over the people everywhere. This is the goal of the NWO/communism. This is a “open secrete” in Europe circles. One government, one party with liberty extinguished; tyranny at its best.
            How does this accomplished? First, controll the language. Political correctness is used to silence moral comments. Homophobia is emplyed extensively for this purpose. Homosexual is changed to gay to make it more appealing to the ear. Gays are given “special rights”. Next, bring class and racial division, chaos in the streets to cause disatisafaction with the current U.S. Constitution. Then begin nationalizing healthcare and other industries will follow later. Simutaneously destroy Christianity and any sense of right and wrong in the minds of the citizens, most of which don’t have the means and/or funds to attend yerars of college and depend on Biblical teachings to base their morals, will be open to government indoctrination (propaganda). Ben Carson warned of this very thing recently. Most people believe that what happened in Germany could never happen here in America. “I beg to differ.”
            You may well accuse me of inventing conspiracies. I’ve got news for you. The Communist Party has been working toward this end for many decades. Read Nikita Khrushchev speech of September 29th, 1959 where he predicted these events to come beginning with one social program after another untiol we awaken one day to discover we are a communist nation. Read it.

          5. Hopefull1 says

            Nobody want to consider what you are saying. Reality is too scary and most people are sheep.

          6. Croco Dile says

            What ?
            Morality from this IMMORAL book ????

            Here is the very best this lying book has to offer – sermon on the mount !
            http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Sermon_on_the_mount

      2. Cotton says

        Yes because straight christians are the only ones that deserve rights. You do know this is a free country for all people right?

        1. Pamela says

          Are homosexuals people? I thought they are retards that don’t know how or where to use the right body parts and can’t possibly be human or would not consistently kill human babies in the womb. Oh but you wouldn’t understand that because you would be afraid to have sex or a baby in the right way that God intended! OOPS!

          1. Cotton says

            Are homosexuals people? Yes they are, and they have equal rights as everyone else in the country. Simple. They are as human as everyone else, and they should not be discriminated against.
            You are full of hate my friend and bitterness my friend, and I can only hope that you are not this toxic in real life, as it really only hurts yourself.

          2. Coolcat says

            Good is bad, and bad is good, Right, Cotton?

          3. Cotton says

            If you say so Coolcat.

          4. suz says

            Has anyone noticed most of these homosexuals are getting a divorce after they marry. It’s all a hoax to get rich quick

          5. Al says

            Has anyone noticed that straights are divorcing also?

          6. pysco says

            Straights aren’t suing bakers for a cake, they simply go to another bakery…

          7. Hopefull1 says

            True and how would the gay community like all straight people to boycott them completely.

          8. Jarhead says

            It was a scam…..Baker fell for it…..

          9. proudtexan62 says

            That’s a very stupid response.

          10. crazyfreddie says

            CORRECT

          11. Al says

            Facts confuse you.

          12. crazyfreddie says

            SO WHAT THAT’S BEEN DONE FOR YEARS PULL UR HEAD OUT

          13. worn out 123 says

            You miss the obvious point here. They divorce in MUCH greater frequency than heterosexuals. BTW, no one is following up to see if they ever again marry another homosexual? For all its faults (and they are many) heterosexuals behavior benefits society at large to a far greater degree than any of the perversions to nature.

          14. Sgt. York says

            Damn another fruit carrier speaks

          15. suz says

            Most are not even getting married stupid.

          16. Al says

            You’re quick to call someone stupid. Check your own IQ b/4 you say that to someone.

          17. Joseph Leonardo says

            I assume at a much higher rate!!!…

          18. Cotton says

            To get rich quick? What do they pay people to get into homosexual marriages? Homosexuals divorce rates are comparable, but lower, to straight marriages as well. Keep in mind that there might not be enough data to prove that though.

          19. suz says

            No it’s a quick money fix for a law suit. Remember the waitress that said someone wrote on her ticket about her lifestyle and it turned out it was herself that did it. There’s been other cases also.

          20. mike says

            What gets my goat is the fact they are allowed to adopt children and bring them up in a lifestyle of either two men or two woman, OK who is mom and who is dad. And they will probably get teased at school, Some life ha

          21. Victor Archuleta says

            The children have to deal with the images left by the heterosexual parents of their friends and by the question on medical forms that ask about the health histories of their mothers and fathers. It’s more than teasing at school; the children deal with mental torment, and the bad effect of witnessing a lifestyle that is simply wrong.

          22. muskat antonopolis says

            none of you seem to get the whole thing….our current Govt. and most probably
            the next bunch neither care whether people are gay, straight, twisted, tossed,
            turned or what ever…….just as long as the current “king” or the next “king” and
            his court of jesters remains in power/office……just pay your taxes, keep working
            to keep things rolling, don’t rock the boat and always remember WE ARE IN
            CHARGE and you riff-raff are simply peons……now you may kiss my a– to
            show your loyalty and that you recognize just how fortunate you are to have me
            as your “king”…..well, folks YOU voted for them…now deal with it…

          23. ShemSilber says

            What a homosexual has the same as anyone else is to choose between right and wrong, between life and blessing on the one hand and death and curses on the other. On the one hand, the Scriptures warn us that homosexuality is abomination. It is in contradiction with the Creators command that we be fruitful and multiply. Paul lists some of the sins that will keep us out of the Kingdom in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and remarks, “…and such WERE some of you.” In other words, he taught them to be converted some from such a sordid lifestyle and celebrate the Torah through the one who gave the Torah to Moses in the first place, the Messiah Yahushua (Jesus). Our Messiah has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that we should turn from our Torah violations and live, per Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33. We don’t have to die for our sins, for the Master gave His blood as atonement for them, and rose again to assure believers of everlasting life. It’s up to us to choose rightly and not to continue wallowing in the cesspool, but get out of it and let the Messiah wash us clean so we can live. Your choice.

          24. Cotton says

            I’ll help you out there by using the specific quote from Leviticus 20:13: “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” this barbaric verse from the barbaric Old Testament that most Christians stray away from now. It is from a violent past which I find it hard that people would actually support unless they are barbarians. Why do you think they made the New Testament?

          25. Hopefull1 says

            You think anybody should lose everything over a cake. It’s not like they refused them medicine or something vital. Matrimony is a sacred ceremony in every culture and religion .They didn’t stone them, they wouldn’t bake a cake.

          26. Cotton says

            It truly is a shame they did not know their state laws then. As they clearly refused service to them based on discrimination.

          27. azsequaya says

            NO,, ! They were refused on “It`s against our “beliefs”,, that`s not discrimination,, Unless it`s a QUEER complaining !!!

          28. Hopefull1 says

            The harshness of the punishment does not equal the so called crime. And this will only cause more resentment against gays and possibly make straight people boycott gay businesses.

          29. ggrdr05 says

            I don’t even watch tv that has homos on, it’s time we stop giving them any business. give them some of their own medicine. let’s shut them out

          30. mike says

            They could have gone to Walmart and had a cake made for them, Just like the guy who wanted a confederate flag cake and they said no,But made him an ISIS cake

          31. jackrussell says

            Cotton, are you familiar with the Bible at all or did you just do a google search? Leviticus WAS the law for the Israelites in the ancient Old Testament. None of Leviticus applies to the world after God’s Son, Jesus Christ did away with “The Law”. All Christians ‘stray away from it now’ because it is not their law. You show your ridiculously misinformed state with each of your comments.

          32. Cotton says

            Misinformed? Please then show me where it is in the New Testament so I can disprove of it immediately.

          33. jackrussell says

            Romans 1:26-27 in the greater context of Romans 1:18-32.

            Also, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 says “Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality”

            Also, 1 Timothy 1:9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.

            And, Jude 1:7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

            You can do your own studies to show how Christians are responsible for identifying and removing such perversion from churches and how we ARE to love those who wallow in such perversion, but we are NOT to in any way condone or facilitate these unnatural acts which violate the laws of our Creator.

          34. Cotton says

            I did some research and found that Romans, 1 Corinthians, and 1 Timothy were all written by apostle Paul. While Jude which was not written by him only references “sexual immorality and perversion”. See the connection? I think I finally understand it myself. I guess people are getting smarter and realising that the Bible was only written by people that wanted to support Christianity and how it may in fact be outdated in some portions. What Paul wrote was only his opinion and it may have been true back in his time but in our time that portion is definitely is seeing its decline as it is obviously outdated in today’s standards.

          35. azsequaya says

            If you`re going to “QUOTE” the Bible,,, Do it correctly !!!
            Leviticus 20:13 “If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death: their blood shall be upon them.

          36. Cotton says

            Excuse me I don’t use bible quotes often. Sorry about that.

          37. azsequaya says

            Maybe you should read the Bible “often”,, It`s makes life more bearable in this world of crime, deceit, abominations & moral decay !!!

          38. Jarhead says

            Colon mucus is difficult to read thru…..well that’s one thing you got right.

          39. furiousvet says

            OK, we’re going into Bible verses, depending on what version you are useing . Old Testament, New Testament, here’s one from the New . 2 Corinthians 6:17 .
            ” Wherefore COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM,AND BE YE SEPARATE,SAITH THE LORD, AND TOUCH NOT THE UNCLEAN THING; AND I WILL RECEIVE YOU, ” . It’s a known fact that male homos are aids carriers however there’s no way to know when you meet one if he indeed is one of those that is an aids carrier. So to be safe the Bible says to ” come out from among them and be ye separate ” .

          40. azsequaya says

            II Corinthians 6: 17, (New Testament) cites Isaiah 52: 11(Old Testament),” Depart Ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord.” referring to Israel’s future holiness when they will be restored to the Lord`s favor.

            Our bodies are the Lord`s “vessels” !! I don`t understand , what`s the point you`re trying to make ?

          41. ShemSilber says

            Properly understood, none of the Scriptures are, as you say, “barbaric.” It is one solid book that, properly understood, it all totally in agreement with the Torah that the Messiah Yahushua gave Moses (1 Corinthians 10:4; Hebrews 11:24-26). Truth does not change but is constant (Psalms 117:2; 119:85; Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8). Of course you don’t believe it’s all one solid book in unity with itself from Genesis to Revelation, and neither do you believe Proverbs 14:12 and 16:25 that tell us there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end of it is death. That same Messiah Yahushua has given you the right to refuse His gift of eternal life or to accept it. Your choice if you want to retain your sin, refuse to turn from it and die, but as for me and my house, we will serve Yahuwah our Elohim, the Rock of Israel, who gave us the Torah, the Prophets, the Writings, and the Renewed Covenant that is supported by the Covenant with Israel, and His Son, our Messiah Yahushua.

          42. Michael Stewart says

            Sound more like extortion do what I tell you or you will go to hell. I highly doubt god is going to punish anyone for sleeping with another man. i agree however that the gays should have simply gone to another bakery. That is what I do if someone does not want to serve me. Whether or not god will punish gays. men with other men is not natural. two dudes or two babes cannot have children with each other. just take to heart that two gay guys means two less men who are going to reproduce.

          43. ShemSilber says

            That’s the same way that I used to take it, but (1) the Messiah Yahushua did not have to create us in the first place, but He did, not that He needs us, but because He is building a family. (2) He laid out the means of our salvation before He made us, through mercy and favor to us, for He knew we would slip into error, being only flesh. He didn’t have to do that either, but again, He’s building a family

            We cannot do anything TO Him or FOR Him, but we can learn to benefit each other and we can choose to accept the gift of life from Him. Then He will reward us in the REAL life that comes after this according to how well we follow the principles that He gives us to live by, the Torah.

            He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that we should turn from our Torah violations and live. He saves us first, and then He teaches us how to live. Only if we totally reject Him and the gift of life that He is zealous to give us do we die the second death, and it goes back as it was in the first place, as if we never existed in the first place. As Romans 6:23 says, the wages of sin is death, and it does not mean eternal life in hell fire. Our Mighty One is merciful even to the disobedient, not making them suffer endlessly for the ages. That’s not His character.

            So it is no way extortion, but encouragement to live for the wonderful existence that He created us for. In the Name of our Master Yahushua, who loves us more than we can realize, at least in these bodies. He has a new body for us all, if we will accept it from Him, omein.

          44. Jarhead says

            Keep hunting for your cotton balls in mom’s basement fruitcake.

          45. Cotton says

            Calm down friend no need to be upset.

          46. fcutch says

            Queers are not normal. Unless you happen to be one. In which case your sense of entitlement at the expense of others rights shines through

          47. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

            What if someone came into the bakery and asked for them to bake a cake with razor blades in it for their gay wedding, as a humorous thing. Do they have the right to say no? Ideally that’s what the lesbian wedding cake was to them…Religious emotional pain. Feeding satan, celebrating satan and sin. But THAT doesn’t matter. If they find the right lawyer, maybe they can counter sue!

          48. Cotton says

            Being christian does not mean being anti-gay. I can confirm this and the majority of the US supports this as well. Your type of christianity is a dying breed, just like the christians that believed blacks and women do not deserve rights. History truly repeats itself.

          49. Jarhead says

            Trying to make a joke?? How can one be a Christian and pro-gay, pro hard drugs, pro-booze, pro-under age sex, etc., etc. ??

          50. Cotton says

            Because they can? Being Christian does not mean you need a certain mindset. Unless you like living in a shell. Basic christianity is believing in Heaven, realizing that everyone sins, and accepting that Jesus died for our sins. You can live fine as a Christian just with that, and if people accuse you of not being a Christian and condemn you to hell, who really is the bad guy?

          51. melmack 1 says

            Tell that to the bakers in the socialist wacky state of oregon…

          52. proudtexan62 says

            Every baker in all the states in this union have the same rights as those in Oregon and what you people don’t have the right to do is try to force them to do something that is against their principles. They don’t try to force you to become straight. Obama has given all of you a false sense of entitlement and power that you DON’T HAVE.

          53. melmack 1 says

            Wrong, the bakers in wacky oregon have LOST rights to a PC group of people that obummer gave power too. People like charlie ((I am God)) burr who cannot understand why they won’t pay because it is a lawful order!!!

          54. Cotton says

            Yes a shame they live wrong beliefs about what Christianity truly is. Also a shame they did not know the state law that caused this in the first place. They need to study up!

          55. jackrussell says

            Cotton, being Christian certainly means condemning the homosexual perversion. You simply don’t know what you are talking about. Loving those who practice homosexual perversion, just as we are to love mass murderers, thieves, child molesters . . . as Christians we are to love all sinners but we are to identify and condemn the wickedness of those practices.

          56. Cotton says

            Wrong, most christians today support it. If they didn’t we would not be a free country. Condemn it all you want but it only makes you go against what America stands for. Freedom.

          57. jackrussell says

            Saying ‘wrong’ doesn’t make it wrong. Most people who call themselves Christians, actually are not. But, regardless, even if they ARE actual Christians, what “most Christians” do has nothing to do with what every Christian is responsible to do. America absolutely stands for freedom but it also stands for justice and for the will of the people through representation and the rule of law. You have a very limited comprehension of every topic that you choose to comment upon.

          58. Cotton says

            Then christians are fighting christians, and you happen to be on the losing side. Tough. Cry more.

          59. proudtexan62 says

            Because someone will not bake a cake for you, that is discrimination? I don’t think so. All business owners have a right to refuse service to anyone and there are signs in all businesses that state that and they have been in those businesses for many years. I am 72 years of age and I have seen them all my life. Why don’t you people realize that you are not going to discriminate against the straight people in this world who don’t bother you but do not embrace the lifestyle you have chosen and will not support it? It is not hate and you need to get that. God’s law is that marriage is between one man and one woman and that is the law we follow. Whatever you do is your business and it’s strictly between you and God but don’t think you are going to “force” people to do things for you just because you think you can. We don’t force you to be straight and you are not going to force us to live as you do. I have lived and worked with gay people all my life and we have gotten along quite well with all of them, thank you. How you ask? Because I respected them for what they are and they respected me for what I am and we didn’t interfere with the lives of each other. That is the way to get along in this world. As soon as Barack Obama is gone from our lives, possibly we will return to that principle. It works and that makes it not in his agenda but, Thank God, his agenda is rapidly coming to an end.

          60. Cotton says

            Yes it is discrimination under the state law, “Under Oregon law, businesses cannot discriminate or refuse service based on sexual orientation, just as they cannot turn customers away because of race, sex, disability, age or religion” it is called equal rights for all. Christianity itself is changing, just look at the Pope, you just can’t keep up with the times.

          61. ggrdr05 says

            the pope is a wolf in sheeps clothing!!!!! he does not represent the word of GOD. I have NO RESPECT for the pope and he does not represent Christians

          62. muskat antonopolis says

            facts please..not generalizations..thank you

          63. worn out 123 says

            It is the homosexual (NOT gay) agenda that is driving me to anger, not the other way around as you would have it be. I am not an angry person. You refuse to see that everyone has a fuse to light. Everyone can feel pushed to far and everyone can be crowded into a bad mood t when faced with tyranny such as this bakery has suffered. Your rights should extend as far as possible. The limit should be when they intrude on the rights of another which is what government is doing to this bakery.
            It is you who are full of something. Here’s a hint: It rhymes with Brit.

          64. Cotton says

            Of course they have a freedom to believe in whatever they want. But under state law they do not have the right to deny service based on sexual orientation, race, sex, disability, age or religion.

          65. azsequaya says

            Equal “rights” as a person , yes , “SPECIAL OVERabundance of excruciatingly EXTRA rights because of wanting to be “ESPECIALLY QUEER, OUTRAGIOUS & WEIRD ??? NO,NO, NO !!!

          66. Cotton says

            Of course they don’t deserve extra entitlement. But they should have the right to get a service from any business regardless of their sexual orientation.

          67. azsequaya says

            There is such a right for ALL business owners as “We Reserve the Right to REFUSE Service to Anyone” !! If Anyone requests from “ME” a service that “OFFENDS MY MORALS” ,, I WILL NOT provide it !! AND,, THEY,, do NOT have the “Right to DEMAND That I DO” !! These “QUEER” lesbians “HAVE DEMANDED” special entitlements !!

          68. Jarhead says

            Not if it is to scam the business…..a criminal act….

          69. Cotton says

            As I said they do not deserve extra entitlement.

          70. mike says

            Hopefully you will not be sued by a gay. and if you ever are I bet your story will change. This is America the land of the free because of the brave. Those bakers had every right to deny their request for a cake and the idiot who is trying to take their business should be sued by the bakery owners

          71. beegeegirl says

            cotton IS a gay, that is why he/she/it continues to advocate for the advancement of gays …

          72. Jarhead says

            The eye clogging colon mucus does not help the Troll missing cotton balls.

          73. theseer says

            Yes…and the Kleins should countersue for the emotional stress and pain
            these two queer women have put on them for standing with their
            religious beliefs!!!
            These two queer females could have easily gone to another bakery that’
            makes cakes for queers!!!

          74. theseer says

            This whole mess caused by these 2 queer females is more proof
            that queers are not nice people nor do they respect others that
            are not queer!!!!

          75. Jarhead says

            They pulled a scam on the Baker & he fell for it………when all he had to do is raise his quote.

          76. PLW says

            AMEN, how many Muslim Bakers did they contact to make them a wedding cake and what was the response ??

            Guess we will never know because these actions are only against Christians..

            Wait till the Islamic Muslims take control of the United States of America !!

            Think there are mental breakdowns now, just wait till the takeover occurs…

          77. william lee henry says

            that one issue is what makes people think muslims are right

          78. Jarhead says

            The objective was to screw the Baker they contacted……and he fell for the scam.

          79. jerome naccari says

            What ever happened to that sign in most shops that say “we

          80. Cotton says

            I don’t discriminate so I am sure I will be fine.

          81. Sgt. York says

            Until the Muslims chop your head of for being queer

          82. Cotton says

            I am straight.

          83. Roger Short says

            You’re too ignorant to know what to take a stand for, so you stand for NOTHING, which is just about what your level of intelligence is!

          84. Cotton says

            Oh very upset, I know more than you do. I know that your side is losing and will lose. So keep crying ignorance while you lose more.

          85. Roger Short says

            Cotton, I truly feel sorry for you. You see, I am neither ignorant, nor am I crying about anything. You think that you are winning and I am losing, but what I don’t think you understand is that, ultimately, God will be the one to decide who wins, and who loses, not you, not me, not the media, not the politicians, but the almighty God! You might want to give that some serious thought!

          86. Cotton says

            God will judge then in his world. In this world, in this country it has already been decided. If you believe everyone everyone who believes in it will go to Hell then that does not make you a better person. Empathy and Compassion is key to being a good Christian, but I find it very lacking in today’s Christian society.

          87. crazyfreddie says

            NOT REALLY

          88. Cotton says

            The homophobia is strong.

          89. dtk1952 says

            How about pedophiles, animal lovers, etc.? Where are their rights? All of them are sickos just like your GAY(Got-AIDS-Yet)animals. Even polygamists don’t have rights and their way is more natural than than being GAY. This couple shouldn’t have to bend over for the garbage. I imagine there are other cake shops that would do the dirty deed for these pieces of garbage. And where does this judge get off on rewarding the garbage a sum that sets them up for life? It must be of the GAY set also. It is sickening seeing judges becoming activists like this. Just like the Unsupremes of SCOTUS, they are not interpreting the law they are enacting.

          90. beegeegirl says

            yes … the head of that organization that is after them IS a gay !!! HE thinks he is being so clever, but in all actuality he is as sick and perverted from not only being gay, but by using the ‘law’ to go after the legal RIGHTS of straight Christian bakers !

          91. dtk1952 says

            That is GAY, an acronym meaning Got-AIDS-Yet. Gay means happy, joyful, etc.. And I definitely don’t see anything gay about being a queer.

          92. Cotton says

            The law they actually were interpreting was that “businesses cannot discriminate or refuse service based on sexual orientation, just as they cannot turn customers away because of race, sex, disability, age or religion.” Sorry you support discrimination.

          93. dtk1952 says

            So, what you are saying, if a pedophile comes to their store and wants a cake decorated with an adult molesting a baby they would have to do it. Or, someone wanting a cake with a person getting it on with an animal. You are a sicko if this is the way you want it. Any one of those would be a case of sexual orientation. Yes I am a believer in discriminating against sick a-holes. Those sick b@tches could have gone to another store, but know they, like all queers/lesbos, go out of their way to make life rough for straight people.

          94. worn out 123 says

            You’ve started down a slippery slope without a survivable ending, my friend. Polygamy, then NAMBLA may well be the next perversions government endorces to establish and maintain their one party rule. I can’t see far enough ahead to guess what might follow that. Thank Gawd!

          95. Cotton says

            You are a dying breed, just like the people that thought endorsing black’s/women’s rights was evil as well. I love how history just keeps on repeating.

          96. edjweaver says

            Cotton, do you know people who thought it was “evil” to extend rights to blacks and women? I don’t. Our Lord Jesus Christ said homosexuality is inherently immoral. You disagree but we Christians believe that — we take Our Lord at His word. What is immoral about being black or being a woman?

          97. muskat antonopolis says

            they should have MADE the STUPID CAKE and made chocolate icing out of
            chocolate EXLAX…….that would have blown (no pun intended) the whole
            wedding……and they should have charged them twice what the cake was worth..
            Then the couple would have something real to sue the bakers for….rectumis
            explosivus …its a legal term..you wouldn’t understand….hey..i got it…we can
            open a cake business that caters only to sexual deviants…..and we can name
            it Deviantly Deliscious Delicates, or Falatio Freshies or some other ugly name..
            I am sure that the crowds would be standing in line to munch a bunch….

          98. worn out 123 says

            . . . . “some otherRepulsive

          99. CrazyAuntJane says

            You are the one full of hate if you are favoring taking a families business for not designing a cake to celebrate something they find offensive! Sounds totally hateful to me!

          100. Cotton says

            They probably did not deserve it but trying to crush discrimination from those so tainted in it is a tough task.

          101. beegeegirl says

            you are right ….. homos ARE people ….. I don’t give a crap about their ”sexual preferences” and all of the ”emotional damage” being done to their poor egos !!! when they DEMAND that someone make a cake, when they DEMAND that someone participate in a ”wedding” ceremony or ELSE, then they are no longer humans, but sadists who enjoy going after those who are not like them !! WE HAVE THE RIGHT to refuse service to anyone who we feel are harming us !!! and believe me, they ARE hurting us !!! by their incessant petulant cry baby bullshit, they are making US uncomfortable, because once we accepted them as they were, now they are demanding that we become part of the very life that is so abnormal !!! BUT I hate to burst your bubble, honey, but homos are NOT normal … they are people but they are not normal !!! NORMAL is when a man and a woman join together the way they are meant to … NOT the kinds of things that men do to men and women do to women … humanity would cease to exist if THEY had their way !!! AND we don’t like being told that we HAVE to honor their perversion or they’ll take away everything we hold sacred !!! It is NOT discrimination to just say no to participating in a ”marriage ceremony” that we don’t agree with !! just like it’s not discrimination for that ”gay” happy couple to demand that someone be forced to participate or lose everything they have !!! IF one bakery can’t in all good conscience participate in a ”wedding” of two females, they can go somewhere else, and they KNEW THAT … they CHOSE to discriminate against that CHRISTIAN BAKERY, because they are so sick & twisted that that is all they know … !!! they want a free ride, so they purposely chose a bakery that COULDN’T give them what they wanted, so they could sue them and get free money !!! YOU are so wrong in your analysis !!! I pray that you come to your senses soon … but I doubt that you will … and if you bring up the Constitution and say that it is their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to ”marry” and to FORCE OTHERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT “MARRIAGE”” … well, I want to see the proof where it says that a man has a Constitutional RIGHT to ”marry” another man, or a woman ”marry” another woman … and their RIGHTS were not discriminated against … they were just told that that particular bakery, because of THEIR RIGHT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, couldn’t participate in that ”marriage” !!! sat an must LOVE YOU !!!!!

          102. Cotton says

            So do you believe homosexuals are inferior to straights? Do you believe businesses should deny service based on discrimination? As that is exactly what they did in that bakery. They didn’t demand them to make a cake, they asked them nicely and were denied based on their sexual orientation. They were smart to see how they could take an advantage of a bakery that did not know the state law that is for sure! So the only thing I see was that the bakery was foolish to try and break discrimination laws.

          103. azsequaya says

            MAN`s law,, does NOT trump GOD`s LAW !!!

          104. jackrussell says

            For over 200 years the Constitution has protected the rights of people to outlaw homosexuality via the polls. The Supreme Court just overruled over 200 years of precedent without even giving a legal basis for wiping away the Constitutional protections that have allowed deviancy and perversion to be kept in its proper legal standing.

          105. Cotton says

            Times change, opinions change, laws change, religion changes, the world never stops changing.

          106. jackrussell says

            God never changes. The Constitution makes the process of change much more difficult than the perverted process that has taken the will of the individual citizens away in the unconstitutional fashion that this issue has been rammed through.

          107. edjweaver says

            Not only that Jack but marriage is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.

          108. Sgt. York says

            Sorry that’s. More BS you spout. Are you gay?

          109. Cotton says

            Nope.

          110. Karen Gaddy says

            This baker did not refuse service to the homosexuals entirely. As a matter of face, they had baked things for them previously. They simply refused to bake a WEDDING CAKE for them because it conflicted with their religious beliefs. Oregon is a disgusting far left wing state to make such a ruling. I find it abhorrent. The couple could have gone to any number of bakers for their cake. What if the bakers had refused to bake a Nazi cake for white supremacists? Should they then have to pay them $135,000? This is the most asinine ruling and these situations just make the hatred between Christians and queers burn hotter.

          111. ggrdr05 says

            the sicko’s dont want equal rights they want all rights

          112. Joseph Leonardo says

            Excellent posting, Cotton. Reading Pamela’s posting I gather she is a dumb religous person! She probably has a problem with men, even straight men won’t be attracted to her!!!…

          113. Roger Short says

            There goes the typical liberal line. WE HATE! We are full of HATE! Well buddy, you are full of another 4-letter word!

          114. Cotton says

            Pamela called homosexuals retards.. Are you joking? Can you read?

          115. ted j says

            homo’s have the same rights as anyone else… to marry a person of the opposite sex… but not to try to change God’s laws..

          116. Justice says

            Certainly the homosexual should be punished by civil government. The Bible condones laws against murder, kidnapping, adultery and many other sins. Society has a right to protect itself against destructive crimes. These things are not private matters and should not be treated as such. It is not a matter “between consenting adults in private,” as we are told.

            Listen to the Word of God! “But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind (the homosexual), for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.” 1st Timothy 1:8-10.

            “Defile themselves with mankind”, in the above Scripture is translated from the Greek word “arsenokoites” and it means “sodomites” according to Strong’s Greek Dictionary. Thayer’s Greek Lexicon defines “arsenokoites” as “one who lies with a male as with a female, a sodomite.” So according to the above Scriptures, sodomy should be illegal and should be punished along with murder and kidnapping.

          117. Jarhead says

            YES people addicted to an un-natural, un-healthy( HIV, Colon Cancer, etc., etc.), expensive (To others) un-safe lifestyle…..

          118. Gail Ferraiolo says

            Well Gods anger is growing for this kind of behavior! Wake up I wouldn’t make them one either. I lost a brother at 49 last year because of this kind of behavior.

          119. ShemSilber says

            Condolences to you over the loss of your brother and how you lost him. But there is also a possibility, since our Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) ministers to the departed spirits, and since His mercies are far beyond our understanding, it would not surprise me that He even invites people to be saved who departed this life without having accepted Him as the Redeemer. He would still give them free choice if there is such an opportunity. It’s a possibility, because the Messiah can do what He wants, and He also has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, as He says in Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33. The Master cares about all of His creation, not only the people who already trust Him, so may it be that there is hope for your brother, omein.

          120. Steve Crawford says

            This country was founded on CRISTian faith in the Bible, and not Man’s laws. Homosexuals that are seeking to get Man’s laws to sanction their immoral life style are living in sin. Sadly the SCOTUS overruled GOD’S LAWS on marriage as no longer valid. And don’t give me the BS that God blessed you marriage, the Devil did.Being in love does not make it right, try telling God that when you take
            your last breath. My Bible says; “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
            Gen. 9:1 & 7 God instructs those who love Him to be holy, for He is holy (Lev.
            20:7) 1. Homosexuality, like all sin, separates people from God (Rom. 1: 26-27)
            Deuteronomy 23:2 No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, even down to the tenth generation
            1 Corinthians 6:9 (King James Version) 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
            1 Corinthians 6:9 (New King James Version) 9 Do you not know
            that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.
            Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,] nor sodomites. THIS IS WHAT MY BIBLE SAYS

          121. Roger Short says

            What so many people fail to comprehend is that humans can make any laws that they wish! They can change whatever laws they wish, and make anything legal that they wish, but they can NEVER change God’s Law! God isn’t buying their nonsense, and they will learn that the hard way!

          122. ted j says

            correct.. also add Rom. 1:24-32..

          123. ShemSilber says

            Yes, Steve Crawford, that is part, but only part of what your Bible and mine says, but we have to get the whole context. For instance, did you notice that, right after Paul tells us who will not be in the Kingdom, he says in verse 11 of 1 Corinthians 6: “…and such WERE some of you.” In other words, there were some whom Paul had counseled and helped them to change from those Torah violations, and to turn TO the Messiah Yahushua for salvation for everlasting life, for Yahushua means “Yahuwah is Salvation.”

            Also, put 1 Peter 3:19 (“… he went and preached unto the spirits in prison…”) together with Hebrews 13:8 (“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”) and Malachi 3:6 (“For I am the LORD, I change not…”) and you could come to the conclusion that, since the Messiah Yahushua preached to spirits in prison then, and since He does not change, He also preaches to spirits in prison now. So do you think He preaches to them in vain, or is He teaching them that they can be redeemed if they see the error of their ways and ask Him to forgive them and give them life? See also Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33, where the Master says He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that we should turn from our Torah violations and live.

            Do we really comprehend how merciful our blessed Redeemer is? HalleluYAH for our Father’s and our Messiah Yahushua’s patience with us and His zeal to save all who will choose to follow Him, omein!

          124. ted j says

            you are in error.. when you die you are sealed in your fate… whether in this lifetime you received Jesus as your personal Savior or not..there is no purgatory or place to reconsider your choice made in this life..

          125. ShemSilber says

            See my response to Steve Crawford below, for the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) has gotten this little bit of churchiness out of my system, praise Yahuwah!

          126. glorybe2 says

            Don’t be shocked to see haters burning in hell and groups that you curse admitted to heaven.

          127. Justice says

            In Romans chapter 1, homosexuality is pictured as being at the end of the road. It is at the lowest level of human depravity. The stages of Gentile apostasy are clearly set forth. “Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves…For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.” Romans 1:21-24,26,27.

            Surely anyone can understand that the above Scripture condemns homosexual sins. Man turned from God to idols, to human depravity, and God gave them up. God will not countenance homosexuality, sodomy and lesbianism. Homosexual ministers and ministers who condone homosexuality have written many articles defending its practice, but they never bother to explain Romans 1. The reason is obvious. It cannot be explained away. It must either be ignored or denied. Widespread homosexuality in a society is a sign that God has given them up! If America continues to follow the widespread homosexual trend, it will destroy our civilization.

        2. Al says

          Except muslims.

          1. proudtexan62 says

            What do you know about Muslims?

          2. worn out 123 says

            I know more than I care to know.

          3. proudtexan62 says

            I know a lot…..I was in Iraq for five years…2003-2008 supporting the US military and we had many local nationals working for us over there. There are good and there are bad, just like any other race but the bad, just like in any other race, put a brand on the entire race!!!! The bad muslims are killing the good ones.

          4. Al says

            They are our enemy. You know nothing yo’ po’ soul.

        3. melmack 1 says

          No, its because they HATE everyone but others like them and in the case of MUSLIMS they even HATE each other. Proven by the beheadings and murders in the middle east and other parts of the world where they are located

          1. Cotton says

            Too bad they both live in our country right? Maybe you should start a movement to deport the homosexuals and the muslims, make it similar to the KKK possibly.

          2. melmack 1 says

            Good idea, want to give us a hand here ??

          3. Cotton says

            I would but I don’t think it would fit me.

          4. melmack 1 says

            Might just be an improvement to your crooked way of thinking

          5. Cotton says

            Because joining a hate group would make me think better.

          6. melmack 1 says

            Nope, helping to put America back together

          7. melmack 1 says

            I hope you enjoy this Cotton….Helps make the deportation understandable

            WHAT’S AN INFIDEL ?

            The author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose.

            The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the minority races.

            Last month I attended my annual training session that’s required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.

            I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video..

            After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:

            ‘Please, correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that’s the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?’

            There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, ” Nonbelievers”

            I responded, ‘So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?’

            The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.’

            He sheepishly replied, ‘Yes.’

            I then stated, ‘Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!’

            The Muslim was speechless.

            I continued, ‘I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:

            Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?’

            You could have heard a pin drop.

            Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the ‘Diversification’ training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims’ beliefs.

            In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President.

            I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference.

            FOR CHRIST’S SAKE…SEND THIS ON

          8. Cotton says

            There is a lot of misinformation on this, and I am surprised people actually take chain emails seriously these days. Anyways I knew this smelled a bit like BS so I found a bit more information on this. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp
            Don’t believe chain emails. Only ignorant people actually take them seriously.

          9. worn out 123 says

            Maybe, government should care for the rights of BOTH parties instead of playing favorites.

          10. Cotton says

            You’re right, the left-wing can’t exist without the right-wing. But what is important is what wing appeals most to the majority of America.

        4. Bud44 says

          Where are the rights of normal people?

          1. proudtexan62 says

            Under Obama and “his people” we don’t have any. That is soon to change.

          2. Tedski says

            Normal People????? Where are they????

          3. worn out 123 says

            Where are the rights and freedoms of others? They said they would bake the cake, but, it should not be forced upon them to decorate, IMHO. Homosexuals don’t want accomodation. They want to humiliate, rob, Christians and destroy all Christianity, not so terribly unlike Islamist terrorists and Islamists who support Islamist terrorists via their “charities”.

          4. Bud44 says

            Look all around you.

          5. worn out 123 says

            It is estimated only 2% of the population is ACTUALLY homosexual.

          6. Taking care of business! says

            Actually, the exact figure 0.8%.

          7. melmack 1 says

            And the LIBERAL tail continues to wag the dog

          8. Taking care of business! says

            Absolutely.

          9. edjweaver says

            Your ‘2’ is misplace, WornOut…it’s actually 1.2 percent and that includes, gays, lesbians and transgenders. It does NOT include bisexuals. When they’re included, the figure jumps to well over 20 percent. So, don’t ever let anyone tell you that homosexuality is inherent. If it were, bi-sexuality wouldn’t be so widespread.

          10. melmack 1 says

            Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Bruce

          11. Taking care of business! says

            Under the bus, Barry’s bus.

          12. Cotton says

            They have them.

        5. proudtexan62 says

          NO matter what or who you are, you DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BAKE A CAKE FOR YOU and if they won’t because they do not approve of your lifestyle, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR PROPOERTY AND BANKRUPT THEM. Are there no homosexual bakers in this country??? Of course they are and if you want a cake baked for you, FIND ONE!!! No matter what you people think, you are NOT GOING TO FORCE us to embrace your lifestyle. What you do is your business and no one cares how you live but we don’t have to live that way nor like it.

          1. melmack 1 says

            Why don’t they go to Dearborn MI and ask a Muslim bakery to bake the cake for their gay wedding >>>>**LMAO**<<<<

          2. Cotton says

            They already have forced us to embrace it, homosexual marriage exists. They also broke a state law, but obviously they didn’t study up on that. Shame they live as a dying breed. Just like the people that refused black’s or women’s rights.

          3. worn out 123 says

            Just like the KKK, not those souther democrats that had the Jim Crow laws, etc. Women can have a cake baked there. Not the same at all.

          4. Cotton says

            “businesses cannot discriminate or refuse service based on sexual orientation, just as they cannot turn customers away because of race, sex, disability, age or religion.”

          5. azsequaya says

            As a Business Owner,,, “I have the RIGHT to REFUSE service to “EVERYONE”,, if I so desire !!!

        6. Jeffrey Cahoon says

          Look around you! Free country my ass!

          1. Cotton says

            More free than it was before. Black’s have rights now, and so do women. We have come a long way.

          2. melmack 1 says

            And just who is the WE that you refer to?

          3. Cotton says

            America.

          4. melmack 1 says

            Have you looked at America lately…Debt so high that China owns the USA. Unemployment totally out of wack and welfare and people on it higher than its ever been. LIBERALS leading have us moving rapidly towards becoming a third world country. bho is doing his best to destroy us and he has a lot of help from the democratic party. Pray to God that this nightmare ends soon and America becomes America again and not a replica of a Muslim country

          5. worn out 123 says

            Yup. Baltimore, police murdered in the cars having lunch in N.Y., the Thug Travon Martin shot dead, Ferguson riots with two dead over a very young man turned attacker and strong armed thug. We’ve come a long, long way only to slide backward recently.

          6. Cotton says

            Better than slavery at least. It is one of those things that is very hard to find a solution for.

        7. worn out 123 says

          America is a free country, however, some are more free than others.
          (Ever read Animal Farm? Your living it.)

        8. CrazyAuntJane says

          The bakery was being required to participate in a gay ceremony not just sell them a cake. I think if that is correct that any black or gay bakery should have to bake a cake celebrating the KKK!!

          1. Mark Clemens says

            You never hear of homosexuals wanting to get married in a Mosque.

          2. worn out 123 says

            Ha,Ha! Mosques don’t own bakeries and a Mosque can’t be sold for money. This is about greed, power and intrusive government control.

          3. Mark Clemens says

            How do you know, the Mosques might have a diverse investment portfolio. A Mosque should be “Open to the public”, like a church or business.
            The state can confiscate anything w/in it’s borders.
            Welcome to the Bush’s and Clinton’s NWO!!!!!!!

          4. worn out 123 says

            Of course, it is not right. It is not right to force one to participate in the slightest in activities that may reasonably be viewed as perverse.

        9. Hopefull1 says

          Obviously not for Christians. Any store is supposed to be allowed to refuse service for any reason. Live and let live, they could go somewhere else for the cake. Pain and suffering my ass. The government has too much power. If we all don’t get along we are finished.

          1. Cotton says

            Except if the reason is based on a customers sexual orientation, race, sex, disability, age or religion.

        10. jackrussell says

          Cotton, you have a simpleminded view of the world, don’t you.

        11. Craig Reynolds says

          First off you do not have a “Right” to tell others what they must do for you. As for your “free country” comment? A person is “Free” not to associate or do business with anyone they want. They are “free” to accept or not accept who you are.

          I can walk into any gay owned, muslim owned or any other non Christian establishment and tell the owners to their face that I will never patronize their business because of their religion or relationship status and guess what? There is not a thing they can do about it. They cannot sue me (they can try, but will lose) for refusing to do business with them.

          Well if I can do that, then that same owner upon seeing me walk in with a cross hanging from my neck should be able to refuse to serve me. Same for a gay couple if the owners beliefs are against that. Just because you are “different” does not give you the exclusive right to be offended and seek retribution.

          I am sick and tired of all the pansy types thinking they are entitled to have anyone else cater to their dysfunctions. Yes they are dysfunctional and not because they are gay, but because they are too emotionally weak to handle rejection.

          How far are these needy emotional weaklings going to take this? We already give out trophies in school sports just for participating so the kids that are lousy don’t get their feelings hurt. What’s next? Are they going to force the jock to date the nerdy fat girl and punish him if he doesn’t? Are the parents of the geeky fat boy going to sue the parents of the prom queen for refusing to dance with their son and telling him he’s fat?

          We already have parental failures of gender confused kids demanding that their kid should get to use the bathroom or locker room of their choice. They are a parental failure not because their kid cannot accept that a penis makes that kid a boy or a vagina a girl, but because they are teaching them that the world must accommodate them, instead of them accepting a biological fact.

          We already have certain demographics of society complaining that they cannot get into a college because another demographic is smarter than they are and are demanding a certain percentage of seats be reserved for them! WTH is that?

          We also have the exact opposite happening where that smarter demographic is crying foul because the number of seats available to them are being limited by the less capable group. Yes it’s a fact. The smarter demographic has to score higher than average while the less capable groups are given bonus points. It varies depending on what part of the country, but the spread can be as high as 300 points. That is bullcrap and should not be allowed. Why should the next possible Bill Gates be denied a seat while a C level student that should have stayed flipping burgers gets one?

          This overly ridiculous liberal agenda of rewarding the lazy and forcing the successful to suffer for it, or worse yet pay for it has to stop. This liberal agenda of forcing the majority of society to cater to the emotional needs of the weak minded minority groups needs to stop.

          If you are a person that need others to accept you, accommodate or cater to you then you are weak, defective, a failure. You are NOT entitled to acceptance. If you feel the need to seek revenge on others just because they don’t accept you for who you are then you are a weak minded failure whose only contribution to society is to dilute the gene pool with your emotional dysfunction.

          Go ahead and label me a hater if that makes you feel better. I don’t care. I don’t hate people because they are different. I hate the way certain people that are different make demands on the rest of us. You cannot force me to accept you. You cannot force me to accommodate you. You have no greater rights than me. Yours do not supercede mine and you are not entitled to anything from me. In fact that only thing I freely give people like that is pity.

          So if that makes me a hater then I’m proud to carry that label. I will never change who I am for someone else. Here’s your box of pity………………………………….

        12. Roger Short says

          A “free” country! That sounds good, in principle, but just what the hexx does that actually mean?!

        13. Jarhead says

          FREE to spread disgusting diseases because someone else foots the medical bills for the LGBTQ/NAMBLA cabal.

          1. Cotton says

            So, what are you against freedom? Against America? Are you an anti-patriot perhaps? You should be ashamed really, people fought for this country’s freedoms and now you want to take it away. I tell you what if you want a country without freedom try North Korea. They are highly against immigration and rights!

          2. Jarhead says

            Don’t usually respond to queer paid PC liberalTARD TROLLS…BUT have tried North Korea and did not care for the weather.

          3. Cotton says

            What a shame.

      3. Jackie says

        Both groups, LGBT and Muslims premeditate what they do in order to file a lawsuit. Therefore, big bucks for them. I agree they are anti-Christian and do not need to be here; maybe we should take a collection and buy them all plane tickets to return to the Middle East, including the gays/lesbians/bi-sexuals and transgenders. (Just kidding)

        1. beegeegirl says

          why are you ”just kidding” … in the middle east, they would be thrown off the tallest building and then stoned to death !!! so let them go there !!! BUT there still is one little thing that I don’t get about that …. moslems males have sex with little boys that they rape over and over and over … THAT is not only a homosexual thing, but it is a CRIME TO RAPE ANYONE !!!!! so when they are done RAPING LITTLE BOYS, why don’t they throw THEMSELVES off the tallest building and then get their butt buddies to stone them to death, and on down the line ?!!??

          1. furiousvet says

            beegeegirl, do a search on NAMBLA . We have the same thing here in our country . .

          2. Jim says

            NAMBLA has been waiting for the Supreme Court Jesters to rule on homosexual “marriage”. People who don’t see the harm in ruling in favor of homosexual “marriage” simply don’t understand how the Supreme Cluster operates. Their rulings are primarily based on case precedent. Now, NAMBLA can point to this ruling and say, “well, you set the precedent for the ambiguous definition of marriage, so we want OUR rights!” There is already a polygamist running to the Cluster to get his “union” legalized. I think he started his case the very next day after they ruled.

          3. Terry Hamblin says

            Yup, the Congress is a complete sham, there is no such thing as studying a proposed Law and then compromising to make it a good Law. The Supreme Court is now making the Laws. The ACA is a prime example of a horrible Law passed by the Democrats when they had the control, as far as I know, not one single Republican voted in favor of that Law in either house. Of course, now that the Republicans have the majority, they have no plan. Couple all of this with a blatant narcissistic idiot in the White House and there is no system of checks and balances.

          4. Karole Conaway says

            Muslims also rape female babies! The pervert muhammed made it ok for the males to marry a 6 year old girl… but he was supposed to wait to consummate the marriage until she reaches the age of 9. There was also an article posted a bit ago about a 6 month old baby girl given to another muslim as a gift. Not to raise, but to rape and he did. Sending them back to the middle east would not be my choice. Send them to hell is a better plan, from everywhere around the world!

          5. glorybe2 says

            Yes and Christian kings in Europe and England also married very young chidren for quite a few centuries.

          6. Karole Conaway says

            glorybe2: The difference is that Christians evolved from the dark ages and muslims have not!

          7. Ken says

            Only the Spirit of Truth will lead you to all Truth, like Christ said, not so much a book written by the Serpent Seed, with all confusion that it has spawned 40000 Denomination. Can’t you all see the Deception? Seek Truth and learn History.

          8. glorybe2 says

            Yes they are behind in advancing out of a primitive state. You could compare them to US Christians about 1890 as far as their attitudes and willingness to commit violence go. But even later than that there was a major hotel on Miami Beach with a bronze slogan flying at the entrance ” Always a view and never a Jew” as they would not allow Jews to rent a room or dine there. Meanwhile in Ft. Lauderdale there were barber shops with signs ‘ No Niggers Or Indians Allowed”. Zenophobia was a disease that the local governments actively supported.

          9. Justice says

            Romans 3:19, “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.”

          10. glorybe2 says

            Yes and Christ replaced the OT and made it invalid. It is a corrupt ministers trick to flip from the OT to the NT and thus screw up Christ’s teachings to a degree that they could claim a turtle is in fact a loaf of bread. Examples abound. Just how could Noah gather all the animals on Earth in pairs? Imagine how long it would take to travel to Australia and round up all the species there. Then he would need to cover all of the islands in the Pacific as well as north and south America. He also would need food for all of the animals. Then after the deluge there would be no grasses or trees for the elephants or or rhinos to eat and the land would be salted such that almost no species could grow again so I suppose he must have brought at least a years food supply for the thousands of animals on board. Or could we just admit that Noah and the ark is a bullshit story? Makes a normal man wonder how much else in the Bible is nonsense.

          11. Justice says

            now public school children are being encouraged to dabble in homosexuality, with the sick mindset that you shouldn’t condemn something you haven’t tried. Public school teens are being taught how to have “fist sex,” just in case they discover they’ve always been gay. It is an abomination unto the Lord. God doesn’t make mistakes. No one is born “gay.” The only “gay marriage” is between a man and a woman. Only a mentally-ill person would teach teenagers how to have FIST SEX. Any child knows that God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!

          12. JB Wright says

            The “sensible” ones wait until puberty

          13. Ken says

            All world governments are Satanic, if you have eyes to See. Easy to see, they all lie.

          14. Freddie Pringle says

            Using the name, “Christian” is totally different from BEING a Christian. Many who claim to be Christian are far from it. Just because these kings inEurope claimed to be Christian doesn’t mean they really were. The Bible says, “By their fruit you shall know them.”

          15. glorybe2 says

            Well the fruit of the kings of Europe and England is western civilization. Mans’ tendency to sin is probably less than it was 500 years ago. I do know that in the churches in Europe 500 years ago members of the congregation would actually use prostitutes while the priests performed the mass. It was quite common. The people in that era thought nothing of taking care of their urges and their religion at the same time. Some of the popes threw some pretty wild orgies for the cardinals and bishops as well.

          16. Justice says

            Isaiah 53:6, “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”

          17. Ken says

            God will make them as if they NEVER WAS, ALL of the Serpent Seed will have that fate. The sooner the better.

          18. Croco Dile says
          19. Joseph Leonardo says

            Why is that most of you D.F. think that homosesuality is all about sex?…

          20. Hopefull1 says

            Doesn’t matter what it’s about ,those who disagree are the one’s who are labeled haters when it’s the gays who want to destroy anybody who disagrees with them. And it’s not all the gays, it’s the press and PC trouble makers promoting the confrontations and hate.

          21. glorybe2 says

            Why in the world would any sane person give a hoot about other guys or girls being gay? If John is doing Bill why do you think it effects you in any tiny way?

          22. Justice says

            Israel was told to destroy certain nations that dwelt in the land of Canaan. This is found a number of times in Deuteronomy and Joshua. It is clear that Israel not only was told to do this, but God also said that He would help them do it. Some liberal humanistic theologians of the 20th Century do not believe that God said for Israel to do this. They do not deny that it is found in the Bible, but they deny that God said it. They prefer to believe that the writers simply made it up to cover their cruelties to the inhabitants of the land. The Bible believer must take an entirely different approach.

            Let the Bible speak. In Deuteronomy 7:1, seven nations are named and in 7:2, Israel is commanded: “And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them.” “And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee… LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them…” Deuteronomy 7:22,23. A careful study will reveal WHY God ordered whole nations to be destroyed by the Israelites. God warned Israel concerning a long list of sins, including incest, adultery, having sex with animals and homosexuality. “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind…Neither shalt thou lie with any beast…Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you…the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.” Leviticus 18:22-25. Man is forbidden to “lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,” and “ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.” Leviticus 20:13,23.

            Judah was condemned during the time of Rehoboam, because “there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.” 1st Kings 14:24. Once again we are shown one of the principle reasons why God ordered the wholesale destruction of certain nations. God knew what he was doing, and He violated none of His attributes or laws in destroying them. His love, holiness and righteousness are vindicated by His judgments. True love will never tolerate and condone homosexuality!!

          23. glorybe2 says

            Or maybe Christians should stay within the New Testament and consider the Old Testament part of the religion of tribal Jews. When asked about the testament Christ replied ” I am the Testament” meaning he over ruled the OT completely. After all Christ broke quite a few OT laws.

          24. joe says

            Jesus hates fags its in the bible

          25. Croco Dile says

            I always thought Jesus is the prince of love !
            Thank you for correcting my mistake, Joe !

          26. joe says

            Hey don’t mention it I am just that kind of guy

          27. Justice says

            Gay Parade in Dallas. In June 1972, the City Council of Dallas was told that they could not stop a Gay Parade. The parade would be held in spite of the protests of some of the citizens of Dallas. Gay Parade in Chicago. The Chicago Tribune of 7-1-74, carried the lurid story of a traffic stopping Gay Parade through downtown Chicago. The parade featured male bathing beauties posing in scanty swim suits. Groups of gay women, marched in groups or rode in cars.

          28. Pamela says

            What a bunch of bull Crap! The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed and the New Testament is the Old Testament Revealed. Yahushua (Jesus) is FROM Genesis to Revelations moron. One BOOK, ONE LORD!

          29. Justice says

            Sodomites in Federal Government. On 7-9-63, the President of the Washington Chapter of the Homosexual International, testifying under oath before a Congressional Committee, stated that there were between 200,000 and 250,000 deviates (Sodomites), who hold positions in the Federal Government.–From Dan Smoot Report, 10-26-64.

          30. Pamela says

            They are afraid to read the Bible for themselves or else just too lazy. They would rather go by he said, she said, than read for themselves. They might be pleasantly surprised if they would. Especially the Book of John and get filled with the Holy Spirit and then they would see just how glorious it is serve the Lord and say PRAISE the Lord of Lords and King of Kings!

          31. joe says

            If it is filled with the holy spirit why dosen’t it fly out when you open the book and set it free. Serve the lord??? if he is god why does he need to eat and why should I have to serve him let him fetch his own damn sammich.

          32. Pamela says

            Afraid to read it? Thought so. You will read every porn, watch every thing on tv that is about drugs, killing, rape, etc. and I bet you can quote every commercial, but have never tried to develop your own soul by reading one word of God. What a pitiful waste and pitiful shame. There are 3 parts to every person. Spirit, mind and body. You’ve got the nasty mind and I’m sure awful acts by the body down pat, but you are dead inside as you have never awakened nor opened the door for the spirit of LIFE to come in. Too bad for you

          33. joe says

            I like to do fat chicks

          34. Justice says

            The Bicentennial and Gay Pride Week in Los Angeles. As part of its bicentennial celebration the City of Angels is officially observing Gay Pride Week. The 7 days of festivities culminate Sunday, the 4th of July, with the homosexuals proudly promenading through the streets of Hollywood. The Independence Day parade will involve “floats, bands, politicians and dignitaries, and cadres of marches from gay religious, social service, political, motorcycle and social groups. Mayor Thomas Bradley made it official with his proclamation that “…gays have played significant roles in the history of our country, from the days of the revolutionary founding to the present time, and continue today the human struggle for civil liberties and individual freedoms on which America is founded.”—Adapted from Tulsa Daily World, 7-3-76. (More over Sodom and Gomorrah).

          35. Justice says

            Homosexual in Houston, tortures and murders 27 boys. Decent people were shocked in August 1973, when newspapers reported the details of the homosexual torture murders of these young boys. A search of the living quarters of Dean Allen Corll, age 33, revealed a considerable amount of filthy reading material. He had a copy of “Human Sexuality”, a book that is used in over 400 colleges and medical schools. There is an abridged issue of this book that is used in some public schools for 7th & 8th graders. Yet, it gives explicit information on all aspects of sex, including homosexuality. How much longer will we continue to tolerate such rot?

          36. Joyce White says

            joe, if you are going to take part in a discussion, contribute something worthwhile instead of wasting time on stupid gibberish. Your post do nothing to make you appear smarter than a box of rocks

          37. joe says

            shut your trap ya harlot I did not give you permission to speak go bake me a pie

          38. Joyce White says

            What are you, a Muslim? I am not a harlot and I have been speaking for 83 years, without your permission, so I sure as hell don’t need it now, sonny! And what I said before, still holds true. If you can’t contribute to a discussion, stop wasting space!

          39. joe says

            I thought that Deuteronomy was what you used to kill superman did they change that and not tell me

          40. Justice says

            Rent A Boy in New York City for $15.00. A homosexual prostitution ring operating in a Times Square penny arcade offers boys as young as 8 to its customers, some of them middle-aged family men. A customer walks to the building or parks his car at the curb. An older boy, acting as pimp, negotiates with the customer and a selection is made from a cluster of raggedly dressed boys standing in the neon glare of the arcade. On some nights it has been like Grand Central Station. A car pulls up, a car pulls away.–Adapted from UPI report in Lubbock Avalanche Journal, 4-22-76.

          41. glorybe2 says

            Yes prostitution goes on in all cities. But notice how little is done to provide a really good home and upbringing for street kids. The same folks who will not be taxed to help struggling runaway kids are exactly the same folks who want no abortions. So in effect they vote for more kids on the streets.

          42. Justice says

            Americans are the biggest hypocrites in the world

            Americans boast of family values; while aborting their own children.

            Americans teach their children to “say no to drugs”; while drugging themselves with booze and killing others.

            Americans tell their children not to watch filthy smut on TV; while watching it themselves with adulterous hearts.

            Americans complain about increasing healthcare costs; while smoking themselves to death.

            Americans demand social integrity; while robbing children of the moral guidance of the Bible.

            Americans demand changes in government; while continuing to vote for a criminal two-party scam.

            Americans sing God Bless America; while taking God’s name in vain and cursing Jesus continually.

            Americans boast of their freedoms; while having their homes, jobs, pensions and livelihood confiscated.

            Americans worship Hollywood and music celebrities; while disobeying the God they claim to trust.

            Yes, we are a hypocritical nation of liars, gluttonous swine and idolaters!

            The end of the dollar is near. World War II is near. The end of the United States as a free society is near. NAFTA is treason. Open borders are treason. Our nation is going bankrupt. We are going into one of the worst depressions in American history. We are a sick, decadent, degenerate society. It’s 11:59 in the New World Order’s time clock.

            Choose sides! Are you with God or Satan?

            Joshua 24:15, “And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

          43. Justice says

            Though probably less than a majority of mass murderers are homosexual, given that no more than 3% of the populace is gay, homosexual murderers show up much more frequently than one would expect (even Richard Speck engaged in homosexuality). Along with serial murder, there appears to be a connection between homosexuality and murder. Evidence from before the gay rights movement is limited. Of 444 homicides in one jurisdiction from 1955-1973, investigators noted 5 clear “sexual motivation” murders. Three of the 5 involved homosexuality and 2 involved heterosexuality. (3)

            Probing more deeply into the connection between murder and homosexuality, Jim Warren, who worked as a counselor at the Washington State Corrections Center, did the intake interview for almost all the younger murderers (i.e., under age 36) in the state of Washington from 1971-82 (during the growth of the gay rights movement). He was “probably the only one who examined the entirety of each of their case files.” Warren testified that he was struck with how frequently homosexuality turned up in the cases.

            Starting with a trickle of 2 or 3 murders/year in 1972 until dozens/year by the 1980s, he noted a recurrent pattern: Although the motive listed in the report was often robbery or theft, “about 50% of the time” it was also associated with homosexuality. Typically, a homosexual would meet someone at a bar or park and invite him to his home. Before the morning, an argument would ensue and he or his visitor would be dead.

          44. Waykent says

            Please provide proof.

          45. Justice says

            John 3:17, “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
            but that the world through him might be saved.”

          46. joe says

            so all homos are criminals or murderers I buy that, I know for a fact that most lesbians look like lumberjacks they look nothing like the lesbians on the internet so its false advertising if you ask me. I think we should sue the lesbians for fraud maybe we can make a few bucks off the carpet muncher crowd.

          47. Justice says

            John 3:17, “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
            but that the world through him might be saved.”

            The Bible teaches that Jesus DIDN’T come into the world to condemn anyone; but rather, to save sinners. What a precious truth! It is the Law of God that condemns all mankind. Many people mistakenly believe that the Ten Commandments are a plan of salvation, but they are not. God’s Law condemns all of us as miserable failures and guilty sinners (Romans 3:10-23).

          48. Ken says

            God makes Wicked vessels to be destoryed and Good vessels to Glorify. God does the Drawing, Calling, Chosing, Predestinating, Justifying, Sanctifying, Glorifying and Conforming us to the Image of His Son. It is all what the Father wants. If you have the Father you have the Son Also. He did this before the foundations of the world, when the Lamb Slain. God will not be Mocked.

          49. Justice says

            The wicked Supreme Court has sinned against the Supreme Creator, by legalizing the murder of tens-of-millions of babies. They have deliberately rejected and flaunted God’s Law! Because Americans have embraced wickedness, God has given us over to evil criminals, Communists, who are achieving global agendas by exploiting, ruining and destroying our nation in every manner.

          50. glorybe2 says

            If you want to steal other peoples’ land the old God ordered me to do it is pretty damned convenient. Christ railed against corrupt Judaism in His era. Why would anyone believe that corrupt Jewish leaders simply lied in order to steal land? It is sort of like the sick notion of manifest destiny in the US. You know, god wants us to be a big nation so we will steal half of Mexico and exterminate native Americans. If our nation can be that wicked why would you think a tribe of wandering Jews would be less corrupt or violent?

          51. Justice says

            Hardly anyone is listening to God these days. Our churches have become apostate, having “congregations with itching ears.” Romans 10:16, “But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?”

            Deuteronomy 6:12, “Then beware lest thou forget the LORD…”

          52. joe says

            I affects us all when you have a supreme court changing laws you pea brain

          53. Dolores Wieland says

            Yup! And Carmel, Indiana just approved a $500 DAILY fine for doing just about anything against the LGBT community. What a messed up country we live in. .All crimes are way up and people get dumber by the minute…..

          54. glorybe2 says

            So a male and female couple, married with children should be treated with tax breaks while a gay couple should be taxed as two single people? That kind of unfairness is pretty darned illegal to me. Some people want to buy motorcycles and some people want to make babies. why should we subsidize breeders?

          55. Dolores Wieland says

            I won’t be a party to long, devious, idiotic, discussions, on this abomination because you gays will just pound it into the ground with your rants. If ISIS gets here they’ll take care of it plus us Christians. I don’t have to agree with your lifestyle.and I don’t want it shoved down my throat or seeing lewd same sex kissing and fondling in public.

          56. glorybe2 says

            The Supreme Court does not change laws one bit. They do enforce laws that were ignored in the past due to political pressures.

          57. joe says

            Under the constitution they dont under obammyrat they do and they have obammycare and gay marriage are two examples of them CHANGING law it had nothing to do with the nonsense you are talking about, political pressure wow you are a dim bulb 90% of the country was and still is against the deviant twisted practice of gay marriage

          58. siridh says

            I guarantee you the writers of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, did NOT in their wildest dreams anticipate a question on gay marriage. Heck, in 1975 no one would have anticipated a question on gay marriage.

          59. kbfallon says

            and they like to rub in normal peoples faces. get back in the closet.

          60. Joyce White says

            glorybe2, We care because we are Christians. God is not willing that any should perish. He wasn’t referring to a physical death.He was referring to a spiritual death. When you are a Christian, you ‘love’ your fellow humans, even if they are the most vile and filthy creatures around. That ‘love’ is not physical or familial love. It is concern and caring. much like doctors, nurses, firemen, policemen, etc. So when a Christian sees someone placing, not only their physical and emotional lives in jeopardy, but their very souls, we have to warn them of the danger. Our concern does not come from hatred but from concern for their souls. It is why we cannot participate in a same-sex marriage, because we would be putting our own souls in danger of eternal damnation. With God, you cannot remain neutral.You are either FOR God or AGAINST Him. There is no middle ground. When you family who have embraced that lifestyle, it is a heartbreaking choice we must make.

          61. glorybe2 says

            If you don’t think the right wingers on this thread are preaching hate you must not be reading the thread. How many kill them all quotes can you find? Further the only time that Jesus Christ dealt with a sex crime He stopped all punishment on the spot and Mary became His life long companion. Being a Christian involves behaving like Christ did. He asked us to pick up our crosses and follow Him and not to judge people for their sexual differences.

          62. Jarhead says

            Higher taxes for straights due to higher STD problems with LGBTQ/NAMBLA.

          63. Justice says

            It is easy to see that homosexual acts were forbidden by the Law. “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” Leviticus 18:22. This sin called for the death penalty under the Law. “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death;” Leviticus 20:13. “There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.” Deuteronomy 23:17. “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” Exodus 20:14. Although this verse does not mention an homosexual act, nevertheless, it would forbid this sin. Why? Because homosexuals commit adulterous acts with persons of the same sex.

          64. Jarhead says

            Not all…..it is about a disgusting , un-natural, un-healthy addiction to perversion. Much like booze-hounds, crack-heads or PICA eaters.

          65. glorybe2 says

            Sorry but being gay is determined before birth. It is genetic. Many animals happen to be gay. It has nothing to do with morality at all.

          66. Justice says

            Those who condoned and tolerated the sodomites were condemned by God. However, the kings who properly handled the homosexual issue, “did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord.” King Asa “did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD…he took away the sodomites out of the land…” 1st Kings 15:11,12. King Jehoshaphat “did which was right in the eyes of the LORD… the remnant of the sodomites…he took out of the land.” 1st Kings 22:43,46. King Josiah “did that which was right in the sight of the Lord… he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the Lord…” (2nd Kings 22: 23:7).

            Churches, denominations and preachers who advocate, condone or excuse homosexuality are NOT doing that which is right in the sight of the Lord.

          67. EKMcM says

            One day many years back I was on a coffee break in the break room an d a guy whom I knew a little bit was there, – Long Story short – I asked him what his wife or girl friend felt about his promotion. He informed me that that he had neither but had a boy friend. I asked why he decided to be that way and he told me he didn’t decide, he was born that way and learned it as he grew up. End of coffee break.
            Later I tried to do some research on the subject and could only find that maybe kids had problems at home or elsewhere that honked up their thinking but the subject was still being investigated. A few years ago, I decided to do the research online again and basically the story went that there some DNA or whatever problems but that people were born that way and it is still being investigated.
            Being a Catholic type of Christian who believes in science, I am of the mind that though it was not of God’s intention, things do happen as life progresses on and changes come about. That is why we have so many different colors of people, why some people are born with too many or not enough arms, legs, fingers, toes etc. Why some folks go bald – others don’t. need I go on ??
            LGBT – that is the way some folks are born. Live with it. Don’t forget the 10 Commandments.
            I don’t believe in same sex marriage, a different set of rules need to be set up for the emotional, financial protection of those making life long commitments.

          68. glorybe2 says

            Would it help any if these people were called domestic partners but carry every legal right that married people do? What could justify treating normal marriages as better than gay marriages? In a way when people do that the usurp or blaspheme the power of God as He alone is to judge each of us. Why not leave god’s power to judge in God’s hands where it belongs?

          69. joe says

            there is NO SUCH THING as gay marriage it is a sick twisted criminal act

          70. kbfallon says

            Exactly.

          71. Earl Meyers says

            Sorry, there is NO gay gene,this is scientific fact.Also FACT,gays are ten times more likely to be pedophiles.So,am I a bigot because I am against gay Scout leaders?,No,just a protective parent who loves his children.

          72. glorybe2 says

            No there is not one gene that causes homosexuality but many. When we observe homosexual seagulls it is obvious that it is genetic. Why would anyone dream it was not genetic in humans. Most normal males know exactly what they want to play with even at the age of three. I am not female so can not speak about their urges. But I can tell you exactly what turned me on as a baby boy. there was no particular reason to want to check out other boys private parts, only girls. If a person has no orientation there is some sort of damage in play that needs skilled physicians to correct. Mental illness can sometimes destroy the human mind to the point at which a person no longer knows what sex they desire and those mentally ill folks can appear to be perfectly normal.

          73. Jarhead says

            Great Fiction & Fantasy glorybe2……clear the colon mucus from your brain & eyes before posting anymore gobbledygook and check your med’s also.

          74. joe says

            gays can be cured with shock treatment and it should be forced on them

          75. Croco Dile says

            …….. in the name of Jesus !

            Thank you, lovely Jesus !

          76. joe says

            Yea what ever

          77. Liz says

            Now if this picture had been about Mohammed you would be in trouble.See how lucky we all are to have a Constitution that guarantees freedom of speech. Distasteful but the freedom to express yourself.

          78. joe says

            Oh we cant leave out the pig molesting muslims

          79. Justice says

            Gay Activists are working on College Campuses. The national Gay Activist Alliance is active on U.S. College campuses. The president of this group appeared at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, for a panel discussion on homosexuality. These groups are using academic freedom to debauch the young people of America. University of Louisville offers a non-credit course on homosexuality, sponsored by the Gay Liberation Front, according to a report in The Baptist Bible Trumpet, January 1971. 2,700 of the 27,000 students at the University of Calif. at Berkeley are homosexuals, according to the Western Messenger, May 1966.

          80. Justice says

            Homosexuals and venereal disease. Of all the millions of cases of syphilis reported in the U.S. in recent months, 45% of such cases were homosexuals who had the loathsome disease in the throat.— From The Gospel Truth

          81. Jarhead says

            Colon cancer among queers is also up along with HIV/AIDS according to FED/GOV report.

          82. Justice says

            Gay Rights groups slowly gaining U.S. acceptance. The following news was gleaned from the AP report in Lubbock Avalanche Journal 10-8-75. The article features the gains made by homosexuals, and they include: *(1) Rep. Bella Abzug introduced a bill in congress in 1975, supported by 24 other representatives to amend federal civil rights laws to protect homosexuals. *(2) 20 cities including San Francisco, Washington and Toronto, Canada have adopted laws to protect the rights of gays. *(3) The American Bar Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Civil Liberties Union all support revision of the laws against homosexuality. *(4) In 1974, Elain Noble, a known homosexual was elected to the Massachusetts Legislature. *(5) California passed a law decriminalizing homosexuality. Eleven other states have removed penalties against homosexuality. *(6) Gay leaders and police estimate that 100,000 homosexuals are among San Francisco’s 715,000 population. (Think of it. One out of seven is a homosexual).

          83. Jarhead says

            Mentally ill can appear normal if your head/ears/eyes are colon mucus covered….you along with the other paid PC liberalTARD Troll (cotton-balls) are good examples of this malady……seek help fool!

          84. joe says

            BULLSHI7 it is like a club they join for sick twisted freaks

          85. Justice says

            Television has shown a number of movies that deal with homosexuality. Christians ought to be stirred up, but they are not. These movies include, “That Certain Summer”, “The Damned”, “Flowers of Evil”, and several others. The T.V. talk shows think it is cute to get the perverts on T.V. and talk about it. Tom Snyder has been notorious for doing this, along with others. One show featured a trip to a gay bar in N.Y., where the camera zoomed in on the disgusting scenes. Expect much more of this, since the citizens have no real desire to change things.

          86. Justice says

            Pennsylvania Gov. Milton Shapp proclaims “Gay Pride Week” June 12-19, 1976. More than 100 cities across the nation will be celebrating this event. These sodomites are proud of their sin. May God have mercy on this sinful country.–From The Exhorter.

          87. Mark Lahti says

            It isn’t? These are all platonic friendships? These folks that want to marry a member of their same sex are not interested in having sex with someone they insist they love and want to marry? Are you really all that naïve? Joe, from your picture you don’t appear to be that stupid. As far as a relationship being ALL about sex goes. I understand your point. There is a lot more to a relationship than just sex. But a marriage implies all of that and it does include the sexual aspects. But to make that statement would make you appear to be saying that it doesn’t happen in a homosexual relationship.

          88. glorybe2 says

            So when two 87 year old residents of a nursing home get married they are not really married because they don’t have sex. Really? Think before you rant.

          89. Dolores Wieland says

            Who says 87 year olds don”t have sex? I beg to differ

          90. Mark Lahti says

            How about having a realistic point instead of this typical liberal childish stupidity.

          91. Midnite Rider says

            Who’s the Dumb F_C k. You cause you can’t even spell.

          92. joe says

            it is a twisted lifestyle choice that goes against all nature a few sick deviants that think the country should say it is OK well it is NOT OK you freaks. If you want to do it keep it out of the public eye and do not ask the pouplation to support your sick freakish lifestyle you degenerates.

          93. Jimmy Quick says

            It has nothing to do with sex. Most of these demented people will do it with a knot hole tree or an animal if they can. It’s about domination without responsibility. It is about hatred for themselves as well as others. It is about the art of quietly destroying God’s creation within and forcing that destruction into the bed of another.

            I don’t know if you even care what God says but this is worthy of notice, like it or not:

            Leviticus 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1

            Leviticus 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them.”

            1 Corinthians 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

            Romans 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”

          94. kbfallon says

            NO–its deviant-disgusting-sickening-perverse-diseased-sick for you people to stick your junk in someones asshole……sick fuks…and they wonder why they get the shit beat out of them all the time….silly faggots–dicks are for chicks.

          95. dinkerduo says

            No Bud–it’s *rape* that not necessarily about sex–it’s about power–homos and pediphiles–that’s IS about sex!

          96. Justice says

            You’re in denial my friend. Cenk Uygur is woefully ignorant of the Scriptures (and no surprise because he’s an unbeliever). Cenk brings up the Old Testament prohibition of eating pig skins and shellfish, but he fails to understand (or care) that those were dietary CEREMONIAL LAWS only for the Old Testament Jews living in Palestine. Ceremonial laws served the purpose of teaching divine truths. Many of the ceremonial laws were intended to teach separation from the heathen world. Colossians 2:14-16 teaches that the ceremonial laws were nailed to the cross with our Savior, done away with.

            So homosexuals who bring up ceremonial laws don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

          97. siridh says

            Because if it wasn’t they would be “friends” and this whole argument would be moot.

          98. dinkerduo says

            It’s not only homosexual—they are pedophiles—no wonder Obozo is so F-ed up—he is communists Muslim and gay —and those are the groups he patronizes!

          99. Justice says

            Genesis is the book of beginnings. There is a rule followed by fundamental Bible students, that is known as the law or rule of “first mention.” When you find something mentioned the first time in Genesis, this will set a pattern for understanding it throughout the Bible. This certainly holds true on homosexuality. “…the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.” Genesis 13:13. We are not long left in doubt of the nature of the sin Sodom was noted for.

            God revealed to Abraham that He was going to destroy Sodom, “Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;” Genesis 18:20. God sent two angels, who appeared as men, into Sodom to warn Lot and his family to flee the city. The angels spent the night in Lot’s house. That night the men of Sodom surrounded the house and asked, him, “Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may KNOW them.” Genesis 19:5. It is clear that the Bible uses the word “know” many times to describe a sex act between two individuals. “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain,…” “And Cain KNEW his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch:…” Genesis 4:1,17. Lot offered to give the men of Sodom his two unmarried daughters, which had not “KNOWN man”, but of course they were not interested in women. They wanted men because they were sodomites. Even when they were smitten with blindness by the angels, these wicked men still wearied themselves in trying to find the door of Lot’s house.

            God destroyed Sodom with fire and brimstone. Anyone should be able to read Genesis 19 and see God’s attitude toward the practice of homosexuals. “Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;” Genesis 19:24. This even is mentioned many other places in the Bible, by Isaiah, Jeremiah and other prophets. It is used as an example of God’s judgment by Jesus, Peter and Jude in the New Testament. Not one writer or speaker in the Bible questions God’s righteousness in destroying these cities.

          100. 3ronald1 says

            Correct. And if you look at how many people in our nation have turned from God and become pedophiles and sodomites – we are next!!!

          101. gubllod says

            Congratulations for an excellent commentary! Oregon’s politicians have become extremely liberal. Charlie Burr’s remarks quoted in the article are just one example of the depraved thinking which is current there. He has trouble figuring out why what the state is doing is wrong from any direction. That moral confusion afflicts authorities in San Francisco as well. That’s why they had absolutely no concern over the murder of the young lady who has inspired the “Kate’s law” movement in the US Congress. That murder was perpetrated by an illegal alien convicted of at least five felonies and deported six times. . . .a small time drug runner.

          102. glorybe2 says

            One should not assume that the OT was anything other than the babblings of tribal Jews and the reference to god may not be the same God that Jesus refers to at all. We see an OT tribal god but in the NT we see a God that is much kinder and seeking to be accepted world wide rather than by the Jews. When Jesus remarks “I am the TESTAMENT” He pretty much disolves the OT’s validity. In other words follow Christ’s words rather than OT nonsense.

          103. Justice says

            Cenk mocks Christians by accusing them of portraying themselves as victims. It’s the other way around. It is the homosexual community who continually portray themselves as victims. When a conservative shares their opinion publicly, everyone goes completely insane and works to tear down that person; but when a liberal shares their opinion, its all of a sudden progressive. What hypocrites!!! Why is the government in Chicago even stepping in to ban Chick-fil A?

            Seriously, does freedom of speech even exist anymore? It’s simply outrageous that you can’t have your own thoughts these days. Fifty people can speak praises for same-sex marriages, lesbianism and homosexuality, and no one really pays much attention; but just let one Christian stand up for God and speak the truth that homosexuality is a sin, and all the hordes of Hell break loose.

          104. Freddie Pringle says

            I beg to differ. The OT was a revelation from God. To understand the laws of the OT, try reading Paul’s remarks in Romans 7-8. He basically says that the purpose of the OT was to show us that we can never be justified (or accepted by God as righteous) by virtue of our actions. Salvation is, and always has been, a matter of grace, not of works (God’s grace, not man’s works), so that no one can boast. (Eph 2.8-10)

          105. glorybe2 says

            But you can not ignore “I am the Testament.” which clearly instructs us to follow only Christ’s teachings. Much of what Christ taught violates the OT. Laboring on the Sabbath etc..

          106. glorybe2 says

            Sodomy would also include oral or anal sex between a wife and husband. And masturbation was also banned. So I guess all of us will be in the same hell. How many people do you believe actually live by that nonsense? I’ll bet less than 1%.

          107. Justice says

            The root cause of America’s mental-illness is her spiritual-illness. If one’s heart is not right with God, then neither can one’s mind be right. It doesn’t come as a surprise to me that people are so mean, rude and discourteous nowadays. They are mentally-ill and don’t care. They have no regard for God nor man. Kids are brats nowadays, shoving adults out of their way and showing no respect for their elders. The parents are just as bad, littering and only thinking about themselves. It’s heathendom. The hallmark quality of being a born-again Christian, who loves the Lord Jesus Christ, is CARING. I care!

            John 16:20 and 22, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy … And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.”

          108. Justice says

            Regardless of what man may say about homosexuality, the Bible believer must turn to the Bible to get God’s truth on the subject. Here we will find the eternal truth, which should forever settle the issue. Surely no one who has working knowledge of the Bible could ever contend that this Holy Book condones homosexual acts. The preachers and churches who advocate the homosexual life style, simply do not know the Bible or believe what it says. Both the Old and New Testaments bear abundant proof that God considers it to be a wicked and terrible sin.

          109. dinkerduo says

            Islam is a cult—why would any *religion* say to the world that they DON’T tolerate homosexuals and kill any they find—-YET the men RAPE little boys–and thinks that it’s ok—that’s both homosexual and pedophile behavior—and they want US to believe THAT’S normal!! And all Muslims think that way unless they have learned and act differently! They all need to get out of our country as they want to take it over–and not simulate and obey OUR laws–not sharia!

          110. Jimmy Quick says

          111. JB Wright says

            Unfortunately, leaving is not much of a solution. First, it will just allow this shit to go on uncontested. Second, the way the courts are going, there will be no place left to whilst remaining in the U.S. These bastard judges need to be fought, to whatever extent that they refuse to pass good judgement.

          112. Jimmy Quick says

            I agree. It’s time to start hitting them where they live. The underground group “Anonymous” is now being run by the FBI because some top people turned to avoid prosecution.

            Surveillance has become so advanced that our government tracks the movement of all cell phones and records our conversations on a daily basis, and knows exactly who is carrying it. In DC, the police have had the technology since the early 80’s, to listen to private conversations in an automobile through the radio of all things, whether it is on or off. I know that sounds incredible but I have seen it in use, first hand.

            Today, when I bump into someone on the street, the first thing that comes to my mind is, is this person genuinely interested in what I have to say, or is this a government agent looking for information.

            Government people don’t fear prosecution from us because they all band together and cover for each other.

            The fix is in and if you don’t know who the pasty is by now, it is most likely you.

            The nick name for my old state, Maryland, is the “communist state”. It was given that name because the laws and the officials are so hypocritical and oppressive.

            I left in 2012, but continued to operate my business in state. Because of the continual harassment by the government, I am pulling my business into another state by the end of the year.

            Why should I continue to feed (taxes) the very beast that slays me? If there is no place to go, then the walls are going to continue to close in more and more until finally, we are little more than serfs, if we are not already.

          113. glorybe2 says

            Jimmy Quick you need some help. All the people in government do not band together at all. Many of them loath each other. Even cops working for the same PD often hate each other. The idea that they all conspire is absurd. There are advanced surveillance tools but they are not what you think they are.

          114. Jimmy Quick says

            I have gotten my information first hand. From where do you get yours, if I may ask.

          115. Justice says

            You can’t show me one lesbian couple who doesn’t harbor resentment in their hearts against Bible-believing Christians who publicly teach that homosexuality is a sin. Have you ever heard a homosexual expose false religion? No. Have you ever heard a homosexual expose Hollywood’s filth and wickedness? No. It’s because they’re all on the Devil’s side! Birds-of-a-feather-flock-together. Their all pulling on the same rope as the Devil.

          116. glorybe2 says

            If a judge makes a bad decision it can be appealed. If a state chooses not to enforce hate crime laws it will go from the state courts into the federal courts where the laws will be firmly enforced. Much like the clerk who refuses to sign marriage licenses they will rapidly find out that no one can put their own beliefs or feelings as a shield against law. The minute you allow that nonsense you will find nuts murdering people and cutting their hearts out as a sacrifice to some strange god simply because their own beliefs demand such crazy nonsense. The bake shop screwed up. They broke the law. They got punished. it is that simple.

          117. Jimmy Quick says

            I’ve got a great idea. Why don’t I join the local LGBT chapter and openly read a Bible in the meetings, refuse to take part in their evil activities, and take pictures of the attendees to be posted on the internet along with explanations of who they are and what they are doing?

            When I am removed as I’m sure I will be, then I’ll sue them for a hate crime against the 1st amendment and Christianity.

            How would you like that? It’s no different than what these gays did to these poor cake bakers.

            I hope you are happy that you destroyed the lives of these two people. They are still young and should be able to recover, but the community has lost a great business, and trust me, we are all wiser when it comes to dealing with gays as well as other abominable human defects.

            You can do whatever you like, but we will never accept you as normal.

          118. glorybe2 says

            Well, I am not gay. But you can bet the old days of bigotry will not be tolerated in America. As far as putting peoples’ pictures on the net with their addresses included go right ahead. Just don’t whine if exactly the same thing is done to you. You never know when some minority member might feel like delivering a bit of street justice in the wee hours. Keep in mind that minorities when bundled together are in fact a very large majority of those around you.

          119. Jimmy Quick says

            Thanks for the advice and now I’ll share a little with you. I carry and I shot indiscriminately and without reservation, so unless you would like a couple of extra holes in your head, you better rethink that little scenario.

          120. Justice says

            Rudolph Giuliani dressed in drag (he reminds me of an Oompa-Loompa from Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory). Why do homosexuals men like to dress up like women? It’s for the same reason that lesbian women like to behave like men, and to dominate like men. It’s because homosexuality is perverted! It’s because God intended for a man and a woman to have sex; not men with men nor women with women. In lesbian relationships, one woman becomes the dyke (masculine role). This is solid evidence that homosexuality is perverted, against natural, abnormal and just plain wrong. Even in the shameful and sinful act of homosexuality, they’re still trying to act like male and female.

          121. JB Wright says

            “Keep in mind that minorities when bundled together are in fact a very large majority of those around you”

            WRONG, LGBT percentage’s among the population are typically below 5% except for The District of Columbia where it is 10% of the population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LGBT_Adult_Percentage_by_State_in_2012.svg

            This in no way even comes close to a majority no matter how you stack them.

          122. Justice says

            Do you know what makes me laugh about all these fools trying to explain away the Bible’s teaching that homosexuality is a sin? (I laugh because God laughs at them, Psalms 2:4). When they’re all said and done making their lame argument for homosexuality, you’ve still got two males with male organs, unable to conceive a child, nor can they engage in a normal sexual relationship without one taking on a dominant role and the other a submissive role (pretending to be the female). This perversion alone, without even using a single Verse of Scripture, justifies God’s Word in every sense.

          123. JB Wright says

            The “law” they “broke” is unconstitutional and therefore null and void

          124. glorybe2 says

            The same laws were in effect well before Obama was elected. The same legal actions could be taken.

          125. Jimmy Quick says

            Really? Since you know so much, when did a privately owned business loose the right to refuse service to others based on their religious convictions? Why aren’t Catholic churches forced to hold Islamic services and muslims forced to marry gays. What’s next with you people? Will we all be forced to have more black friends than whites or will our children be forced to become gay or face penalties for rejecting this government sanctioned abomination?

            No, your just another person with access to a keyboard and nothing you have to say is credible.

            The significance of this case is that these USA born citizens are being punished for standing up for their God given right to practice their Christian beliefs and that punishment is not just government sanctioned, but also government enforced.

            Now, if this ruling stands and is not overturned, no one, including you will be safe from the sickos that want to take everything you have worked for your entire life.

            Only a true fool would find anything to be pleased about here.

          126. glorybe2 says

            A Catholic Church or any other church presents or advertises itself to provide a certain type of service and that is what they do. A Catholic church makes no claim to provide anything other than Catholic services. A baker solicits all of the public to come to their store or have baked goods delivered. There are two parts to a contract. The first is an offer. The second part is acceptance. The baker has proposed to deliver a service and a person has chosen to accept their offer. If the baker had simply replied I can’t handle another order right now. I have too many orders and I may need a vacation there would have been no issue. But when that baker declared that he would not serve someone because the were gay he committed a hate crime. A person of normal intelligence and education would have known that doing so was a hate crime. People that choose not to be educated do tend to run the risk of incurring a law suit due to their own sloth.

          127. Jimmy Quick says

            Ah, but the gay thing was not the issue. It was that the baker’s cake was to be used in a wedding, a Holy matrimony involving homosexuals who plan to openly live in sin. That wedding is directly against God instruction manual for living, the Bible, and to contribute to that sin is equal to participation, support and accessory to a criminal act. You see, you fail to recognize that the laws of men are puny and false, but the laws of God are eternal. I’ll bet that you also don’t realize that the simple act of supporting these people and pretending that they somehow have rights which they clearly do not, you are also a participant in their criminal act and you are a gay, like it or not. I would usually place some kind of a wager on my being right, but since you will have already lost everything by the time you finally learn the Truth, there is nothing to gain. So, live long and die young, but it doesn’t mater, you’re dead already. Bye

          128. JB Wright says

            Well that says it better than anything I’ve come up with, well said!

          129. Jimmy Quick says

            Thanks for supporting the Truth, brother.

          130. Justice says

            Dr. Virginia Mollenkott. Who’s kidding who? You’ve got two open lesbian-homosexuals working on translating the Bible. What do you think they’re going to do? Of course they removed the only word in the Bible that calls them what they are… SODOMITES! The word sodomite implies fiery judgment from God. The Bible teaches in Jude 1:7 that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah were a warning to humanity of what God will do to punish the wicked in eternity. My friend, people today dare to question the Bible; yet a preponderance of physical evidence exists as proof that the Bible is true.

          131. JB Wright says

            You’re delusional, the dykes wanted a specifically dyke cake, not just a run of the mill wedding cake. If the dykes simply ordered a wedding cake that was in the bakeries catalog, they no doubt would have been accommodated with the same respect as any other customer. But NO, they thought it okay to DEMAND the baker make them a custom cake that the baker was not comfortable making.

            Your analogy of a church advertising a specifically Catholic/other service is worthless, as preachers/pastors/Priests of these churches will be forced to perform gay “marriages” as marriage is a service provided by the church, just as baking cakes is a service provided by a bakery

          132. Justice says

            Only a mentally-ill society praises sexually suggestive music, sang by immoral freakish singers, who hate God and live wicked lives of whoredom and fornication. Madonna has been an icon and role model to tens-of-millions of America’s daughters over the years, a sicko freak who published a book called, Sex, in which she is portrayed as receiving oral sex from a dog. Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that American society is not mentally-ill for praising and honoring such a person? Certainly, someone who pretends to receive oral sex from a dog is mentally-ill. Yet people walk around like idiots singing Madonna’s hit song, LIKE A VIRGIN, all across America. You mean, like an idiot! I just typed in “Madonna honored” on Google and 362,000 webpages were found. I could list HUNDREDS of groups that have honored Madonna. May I ask, why? Madonna ought to be publicly reprimanded and shamed. Instead, Americans honor her wickedness by playing her music in nearly every workplace, store and public place. This is evil.

          133. JB Wright says

            Amen to that!

          134. Justice says

            Justin Cannon in his lame article attempts to explain away Leviticus 18:22, 20:13; Romans 1:24-27; Genesis 19:1-9; 1st Corinthians 6:9; 1st Timothy 1:10 and other key Scriptures relating to the sin of homosexuality. These Scriptures are often used by Christian believers to expose the practice of homosexuality as a sin. The very fact that modern corrupt versions of the Bible (such as the New International Version, or the NIV as it is commonly called) remove the word sodomite entirely from them is clear evidence that it is homosexuals who have something to hide. Why did the translators of the NIV remove the word sodomite from the Bible? Could it be because the chairman of the Old Testament committee was a flaming homosexual Dr. Marten Woudstra!!!

          135. JB Wright says

            Could be wabbit, could be…

          136. Justice says

            Americans are not listening to God. The King James Bible is the number one selling book in history; yet ironically we don’t listen to what God said. We are a stubborn and stiffnecked people. God said that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness as the sin of idolatry (1st Samuel 15:23). Rebellion is a horrible sin. If you are not listening to God, you are as guilty as a witch who dabbles in demonic spirits.

          137. JB Wright says

            It is the shameful interpretation of those laws that are the problem. A law meant to keep people from being discriminated against, as in where they sit on a bus, or what drinking fountain/bathroom they use, is being used to infringe on personal rights of very specific group(s) of people. Non-discrimination law is being used to discriminate against Christians and anyone else who may not want to bake a “fabulous” cake. You are fine with people being discriminated against as long as it is against someone else

          138. siridh says

            You will notice that no gays have gone to Muslim bakeries demanding same sex wedding cakes. It seems the gays are discriminating against Muslims!

          139. Justice says

            Romans 3:10, “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.”

          140. Justice says

            I don’t judge or condemn anyone, for the Bible condemns all of us as rotten, hell-deserving, guilty sinners. I am just saying that Americans who praise sick-minded people are sick-minded people. The naked crazy man in Luke chapter 8 found Jesus Christ, went and put some clothes back on, and then came in his RIGHT MIND and sat down at the feet of Jesus. Amen! When Peter was fishing naked and then saw Jesus, he immediately grabbed his fisherman’s coat and jumped into the sea (John 21:7). Jesus is the cure for nudity. In America’s mentally-ill society, people are going naked. We’ve got plenty of religion these days, but America needs Jesus Christ.

          141. JB Wright says

            Few people really understand the difference between religion and spirituality

          142. Justice says

            I certainly don’t condemn anyone, for the Bible condemns all of us as guilty, dirty, rotten, hell-deserving sinners. My salvation solely rests in Christ’s righteousness, because of the precious blood that He gave for our sins.

            When the rich young man came to Jesus in Mark10:17-22, he was self-righteous. The young man thought that keeping God’s Law could save him. He bragged to Jesus that he had kept all the commandments. Jesus pointed out to him that he was covetous, and had not kept the Law perfectly. The young man was very sad because Jesus told him to go sell and give away his worldly possessions. Jesus wasn’t giving that young man a plan of salvation; He was using the Law as it was intended to be used—to show men their sinfulness and need for a Savior.

          143. kbfallon says

            What needs doing is to take these scumbags is to tie them down with their bare asses pointed up and wipe their asses with the scent of pigs in heat and let the boar hogs have some muslim ass. Get the popcorn going and pull up a seat.

          144. Jan Bone Upton says

            It’s not our place to judge as bad as we want to. God is judge and jury.

          145. JB Wright says

            I’m not sure that is exactly what our Bible’s say. The way I read this “judge not lest ye be judged” means that you will be judged in the way that you judge others. So if you are one to judge harshly, that is how you will be judged. Judge with an eye of understanding, that is how you will be judged.

            Frankly, I don’t see it as “judging” to call a spade a spade, that is describing, not judging. As for doling out punishment, that is different than suggesting what punishment might be appropriate.

          146. glorybe2 says

            It is judging as you usurp God’s right to “describe” the sins of others in comparison to your own sins. When you say that girl is ugly many other people might think that same girl is beautiful. Such words are not descriptions but judgmental opinions.

          147. Justice says

            “Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.” —Ephesians 4:19

          148. glorybe2 says

            You should know that hate speech can put you in prison even when it is on the net.

          149. kbfallon says

            Not in my country…I can say what I wish – when I wish, and after having family members killed defending our country–I will till my dying breath. That- you can bank on.

          150. Justice says

            “Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD…” —Malachi 2:17

            Homosexuality is a sin! Don’t upset God by saying it’s not!

          151. JB Wright says

            There are very few people that I “hate”, most of those very few are extremist’s who believe I should be killed because I don’t belong to their cult. As for any remaining, it is not without good reason. Laws against “hate speech” are unconstitutional, who I like or dislike cannot be legislated. That said, I can’t say as though I’ve seen anything that could be confused with hate speech posted, what did I miss?

          152. Justice says

            John 3:3, “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

          153. 3ronald1 says

            Good point! You are right. Raping young males IS a homosexual act and they should stone themselves and jump off a building. Funny, you never hear about punishment for that heinous act, do you?
            They have a hate-based religion. Certainly they are not taught to love others and treat them like they would like to be treated. Or, be benevolent and help others. Just hate, violence and killing. I wish they would ALL go back to their own country where they “fit in”.

          154. dinkerduo says

            I can’t even think Islam is a religion–to me it’s more of a cult that people have submitted to—something like the Jim Jones cult–or Warren Jeff!
            WHY is it they ALWAYS use sex–mainly for themselves–as a *right* to themselves-and always with the young–makes anyone who does that is a cult and NOT a religion!

          155. glorybe2 says

            Cult is not a bad word. Christianity itself is a cult with occult beliefs and practices.

          156. Justice says

            Please don’t let the liberal media and homosexual movement mislead you to believe that they know how to properly interpret the Bible. Romans 1:25 warned that homosexuals would CHANGE THE WORD OF GOD INTO A LIE. Romans 1:25, “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.” Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur are servants of Satan! The Young Turks ought to be called The Young Devils or The Young God-Haters.

            Here again we read The Young Turks spewing their misinformation and hatred against Christians…

            “The reason we have an issue with you is that you’re judging other human beings. You’re saying their whole lifestyle is wrong—their existence is wrong—that they need to change who they are to meet your definition; otherwise, you’re going to say they’re shaking their fist at God, when they’re doing no such thing. So if you’re going to make this huge deal of judging other people, then we get to judge you.” —Cent Uygur (The Young Turks; 4:18 time in video; published July 21, 2012)

            They’re judging God, not Christians, because the Bible teaches that homosexuality is a sinful lifestyle. Homosexuals are shaking their fists at God, just as are the abortionists and pornographers!!! Shaking one’s fist at God means doing things your own way instead of God’s way. Any child knows that God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! God doesn’t create homosexuals who cannot reproduce children. That fact alone exposes homosexuality as wicked and perverted. God doesn’t make mistakes! NO ONE is born gay!

            Genesis 1:27, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Did you read that Ana and Cenk, God created them MALE AND FEMALE!!! Not male and male, not female and female, not male and animal, not female and animal; but rather, male and female!!! So what’s the problem??? The problem is man’s wicked heart…

            Romans 1:22-24, “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves.”

            The clock is closer to midnight than we all think…

            “We are not shaking our fists at anything.”
            —Cent Uygur (The Young Turks; 1:13 time in video; published July 21, 2012)

          157. JB Wright says

            Because then they wouldn’t be able to rape more little boys…

        2. Victor Archuleta says

          I’m not sure I would contribute money to send muslims back. Those empty oil tankers could carry them across the ocean, and the oil rich muslims could pay for their transportation and personal needs. However, I would contribute to a fund for anti-American black people who want to return to Liberia, their African homeland.

          1. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            $0.87 is the average cost of a .45 round… Just saying. I’d be willing to donate $100 for 115 lobotomies.

          2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            To be completely honest… I would LOVE to be the one serving up the surgeries. I also know/work with at least 50+ others that would volunteer for that as well RIGHT NOW! No lie.

        3. Justice says

          I do NOT condone hatred toward anyone. In fact, the Bible never directs us to hate anyone (not even the Devil). However, the Bible does teach us to hate evil (Psalm 97:10). The Word of God clearly teaches in Romans 1:26-32 that homosexuality is a horrible sin. According to 1st Corinthians 6:9-10, homosexuals will not be allowed into Heaven. For that matter, no unsaved sinners will be allowed into Heaven. The only hope is through the blood of Jesus Christ which washes our sins away (Colossians 1:14). I do NOT seek to be unkind to anyone, but the Word of God is not going to change (Matthew 5:18). Sodomy (the Bible’s term for homosexuality) is sinful in God’s eyes! If you don’t like it, then get mad at God.

        4. Jimmy Quick says

          ..

      4. Emily Brobst says

        I said it before, to bake them a frosted cake and supply the lesbos with decorating items so they can decorate it the way they want. Give them two female mannequins for the top, a few tubes of frosting for flowers and lettering, and a “Have a Nice Day” send-off. The Kleins are unfit to do a proper cake for lesbians; it isn’t in their skill-set.

        1. Nicole Duvall says

          The florist who was sued in Washington state did something similar: she offered to provide free flowers to the male “couple” to use for their illegal (at the time) “ceremony.” But that wasn’t good enough for them. They charged her with discrimination and won.

          1. Michael Stewart says

            Christian priests rape little boys. For everything you blame Muslims for Christians do the same thing. I think Xenophobes should be executed. I am sick of hearing Americans attack Muslims, Latinos, Asians and anyone who does not kowtow to them. It is easy to tell Muslims to go back to their homelands but what about telling your soldiers to leave and stop stealing their land, rape their women and destroy their way of lives. Americans, Jews, and those who call themselves Christians cause more harm to the world then muslims ever could. Ask Native Americans in South America how wonderful Christians have been to them. Incas, Aztecs, mayans all suffered at the hands of Christians. Aztecs greeter Cortez with open arms and treated him like a god, How did Cortez respond? He massacred their people, raped their women, and stole everything of value they had including their land. You Christians have the nerve to say Muslims are a problem. I agree that the Lesbians and other social deviants have gone too far but to attack Muslims who are guaranteed the right to practice their faith as they see fit by the first Amendment is downright appalling. When I see groups like Isis and Al qaeda, I do not see Muslims. I see American greed. Isis, al qaeda and the Taliban are creations of the USA in order to bring disorder to the Middle East and to make American think they are under attack so they are willing to give their liberty away. I have spent the last three years traveling throughout South America and have learned how wonderful the USA. I learned about Operation Condor where the USA overthrew the governments in South America so they could have puppets who will prevent socialism from spreading regardless if it was what the people there wanted. The USA supports Democracy but only democracies that benefit the USA. Unfortunately for the USA Russia China and soon Iran, Brazil and India will take their place. I cannot wait until 2024 when China takes over as the worlds economic super power. It will be great to see the USA grovelling like it should be.

          2. Pamela says

            Shows what you know or don’t know. Catholics are not, I repeat are NOT Christians and here is the proof ass hole. Now are you going to say I am not a Christian because I said ass hole, asshole? Then read the bible and get straight!!!!!
            https://youtu.be/hgHoVZhTkI4 and https://youtu.be/5WkKmU_W8NU

          3. muskat antonopolis says

            Catholics are NOT Christians? Care to explain your understanding of why they
            are not? Thank you…..

          4. glorybe2 says

            Catholics are by far the largest denomination in America. when right wingers offend them it lessens the chances of right wingers winning elections.

          5. glorybe2 says

            You simply can not communicate with primitives. they have the education of a donkey and the brain of an ant.

          6. muskat antonopolis says

            sorry…no cigar gb2…that really is not an answer re why Catholics are not
            Christians…..specifically…why are Catholics not Christians? thnks

          7. Pamela says

            Did you watch the video of this nun who was a nun for 22 years and what she went through? She will tell you with her own words what is going on and has been going on in the catholic church for centuries. So sad. Listen to her and you will hear her explanation of how lost the catholic church is.
            https://youtu.be/hgHoVZhTkI4

          8. muskat antonopolis says

            one nun is disgruntled with someone in authority within the church and so
            Catholics are not Christians….perhaps this lady was ill or some other reason..
            do you have any idea how many active nuns there are in the world? And because
            1 nun is upset over what (?) then that means Catholics aren’t Christians…..
            The central focus of the Catholic Church is Jesus the Christ…..He it is who is
            OUR salvation through His perfect sacrifice there on that cross….Remember,
            NO MAN can say that JESUS CHRIST is lord and MEAN it unless they have
            the Holy Spirit of GOD….and I do not believe that GOD gives His Holy Spirit
            as a seal of their salvation to the unsaved…….be very careful to whom you
            listen…for that old serpent is like a lion who waits at your door for someone
            to devour……

          9. Pamela says

            It’s obvious that you did not listen to the video and so stay stupid and take a hike

          10. muskat antonopolis says

            hey there Pamela…why so angry…man I mean there is a loooooottttttt of anger
            coming through the air waves tonight…..so Pamela…do you have any issues
            with the Protestant denominations?? Or is it just Catholics? I tried to view your
            referenced address but it took me into something ? that didn’t seem to have anything to do with your point….sooooo….maybe you got the wrong addee?

          11. Lizfan says

            Catholics most certainly ARE Christians. We sin just like you sin. Everyone sins. That includes you & whoever else is part of whatever religion you adhere to.

          12. Justice says

            Catholics have been deceitfully taught by the demonic Vatican that statues are no different than a picture of one’s family and loved ones. Catholics are taught that adoration of statues is similar to looking at a photo of one’s family and feeling love and admiration. However, this is a fraudulent teaching by the Vatican, because no one worships God by bowing and praying to a photo of their spouse and children. Catholics chant recited Rosaries and pre-written so-called “prayers.” It is 100% manmade tradition and idolatry. I asked a Catholic man why he recites memorized chants, instead of praying from the heart. He said it was the way he was brought up as a child. That is unacceptable to God. The Bible condemns placing family traditions above the Word of God (Mark 7:13). Catholics HATE GOD according to Exodus 20:5.

            Oh what wickedness in the sight of God!

            The statue of Our Lady of Fatima is idolized while in the possession of that family, guests are invited, a fish fry is cooked, prayers are made to the statue of Our lady of Fatima, the Rosary is chanted… AND GOD IS ANGRY!!! (Exodus 20:4-5).

            Hebrews 10:31, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

          13. glorybe2 says

            If you want to know about Catholics move to very rural Georgia where not one person has ever been inside a Catholic church. Every one of them will tell you all about the Catholic church even though they actually know absolutely nothing.

          14. Jarhead says

            See you cleared away a bit of the colon mucus before writing the above…..good job…keep it up.

          15. Lizfan says

            Oh good grief. You know nothing of Catholicism if that’s what you believe. Catholics have been taught nothing of the sort. We don’t worship statues or pictures & we do pray from the heart. & Catholicism didn’t exist at the time of Exodus so you’re wrong.

          16. Justice says

            WHAT DOES THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA REQUEST?

            At Fatima Our Lady said that God wished to establish in the world devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Our Lady said that many souls would be saved from Hell and the annihilation of nations averted if, in time, devotion to Her Immaculate Heart were established principally by these two means:

            1) the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope together with the world’s bishops in a solemn public ceremony, and

            (2) the practice or receiving Holy Communion (and other specific devotions of about 1/2 hour in duration) in reparation for the sins committed against the Blessed Virgin Mary, on the first Saturdays of five consecutive months–a practice known to Catholics as “the First Saturday” devotion.

            WHAT DOES THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA WARN?

            It warns that if the requests of Our Lady of Fatima for the Consecration of Russia and the First Saturday devotion are not honored, the Church will be persecuted, there will be other major wars, the Holy Father will have much to suffer and various nations will be annihilated. Many nations will be enslaved by Russian militant atheists. Most important, many souls will be lost.

            WHAT DOES THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA PROMISE?

            The Message of Fatima promises that if the requests of Our Lady of Fatima are carried out “My Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will Consecrate Russia to Me, which will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to mankind.

            SOURCE: http://www.fatima.org

            This stuff is better than science fiction… as a matter of FACT, it is science fiction! Let me quote a phrase from the above article again…

            “Our Lady said that many souls would be saved from Hell and the annihilation of nations averted if, in time, devotion to Her Immaculate Heart were established…”

            Can anyone show me that in the Bible? No, you CANNOT! John 14:6 tells us that the ONLY way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. . . .

            “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” -John 14:6

          17. Lizfan says

            Well since that message from Fatima is not in the Bible, I don’t particularly pay attention to that & I doubt most people do. & FYI Russia didn’t exist in biblical times either.

          18. Justice says

            A study of 518 sexually-tinged mass murders in the U.S. from 1966 to 1983 determined that 350 (68%) of the victims were killed by those who practiced homosexuality and that 19 (44%) of the 43 murderers were bisexuals or homosexuals.(

          19. Lizfan says

            & what does that have to do with the Bible or this article?

          20. Justice says

            There is so much false teaching today because people don’t understand this basic Biblical truth. Salvation simply involves acknowledging one’s guilt of sin under God’s Law and then trusting upon the Savior for forgiveness. There is much condemnation today from religious folks, who put sinners on trial and demand that they clean up their life in order to be saved. Others teach that a person must “persevere” in holy living in order to get to Heaven. And then there are those religious folks who teach that a person can lose their salvation if they go into sin. All of these false doctrines are rooted in the keeping of the Law, which is a road to Hell.

            The Bible says that JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS!

          21. Waykent says

            Please provide proof.

          22. Justice says

            Luke 6:31-32 and 35, “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. …But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.”

            Should Christians love their homosexual neighbors? Yes! The Biblical answer is yes, absolutely, without reservation, unconditionally, yes we should love all our neighbors. Luke 6:35 proclaims that God is “kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.” God sets the example for us to follow. The Bible says that we ought to treat others the exact same way that we would like to be treated.

            We need to separate unconditional love from everything else, for it is exactly what God does. Luke 6:35 says that God is kind to the unthankful and to the evil. What a Scripture!

            The Bible says that it is wrong in Luke 6:31-34 to only love those who love us, because that’s the way of the sinful world. It’s not easy to do good to people who do bad things to us, but that is God’s will for every Christian. It’s not easy to bless those who curse us, but that is what God wants us to do. Just as God overcomes evil with good, so are we to do the same in Christ toward everyone. Hatred should always be countered with the unconditional love of God.

          23. Lizfan says

            True but Jesus also told us to “go and sin no more”. In order for people to receive salvation aren’t they required to stop sinning?

          24. Waykent says

            Please, provide proof.

          25. Justice says

            Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.

          26. Waykent says

            Please provide proof.

          27. Justice says

            There is so much false teaching today because people don’t understand this basic Biblical truth. Salvation simply involves acknowledging one’s guilt of sin under God’s Law and then trusting upon the Savior for forgiveness. There is much condemnation today from religious folks, who put sinners on trial and demand that they clean up their life in order to be saved. Others teach that a person must “persevere” in holy living in order to get to Heaven. And then there are those religious folks who teach that a person can lose their salvation if they go into sin. All of these false doctrines are rooted in the keeping of the Law, which is a road to Hell.

            The Bible says that JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS!

            In 1st Timothy 1:15 the Apostle Paul said, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS; of whom I am chief.” The reason why Jesus Christ came into this world was to SAVE SINNERS. May I say to all you religious folks who teach a false gospel… let Jesus SAVE SINNERS! Salvation is of the Lord. It is the Lord’s job to save sinners.

          28. Jake Spooz says

            Gaykent is gay.

          29. Jake Spooz says

            Be careful, Waykent….you may turn into a mass murderer later in your pitiful life, because are already a homosexual.

          30. Justice says

            Another reason why Catholics claim that we should believe the Message of Fatima is because the Message of Fatima supposedly accurately predicted world events, which proves that it is a true prophecy.

            The TRUTH is that any idiot saw World Wars coming. I predict that a future war is coming! Wow!, I must be a prophet. Why are the predictions so vague?

            Also, the events that Our Lady of Fatima supposedly predicted could have easily been known in advance by Vatican insiders (friends of the richest and most powerful people). For anyone who understands the truth about history, they know that it was Wall Street bankers behind the diabolical Federal Reserve System, WW1, the Great Depression, WW2, etc. It was Wall Street that created Communism. It’s A Conspiracy Too Monstrous To Conceive. IBM manufactured the devices used to stamp serial numbers on holocaust victims. Henry Ford was a person friend of Adolph Hitler. I. G. Farben (a German company) was a conglomerate of around 200 companies (many of which were U.S. companies) which manufactured the Zyklon B gas used to murder holocaust victims. The Vatican in Roman was involved in the brutal murdering of millions of innocent people in the holocaust. Did you know that the new Pope, Benedict XVI was a former Hitler Youth? It’s true!

            The prediction that Russia would rise to a world-power is NOT surprising in the least when one understands the deliberate creation of Communism.

            The Message of the Blessed Virgin of Fatima is nothing more than a ridiculous and evil invention of the Roman catholic Church. There is NO PROOF of any cosmic miracle, other than than testimonies of people who THOUGHT they saw a miracle. What they saw in 1917 was an astronomical event which occurs repeatedly every 11 years. The Vatican used the event to dupe the ignorant masses who thought they had seen a “miracle” of nature. I’m sure that there have been people throughout history who were conned by some smart guy who predicted a solar eclipse, calling it a “miracle.” The Catholic Church thrives on the ignorance of the masses. Most people don’t have enough sense to question the “traditions” and “claims” of the Catholic Church, they just blindly believe the Vatican because they package everything in appealing wrappers. The Catholic religion is all about “eye candy.” They offer a structured, non-spirit based system, from the cradle to the casket, step-by-step religion. Just add participation, no faith required.

            I am NOT trying to be unkind. On the contrary, I care about people very much, which is why I am willing to risk being unpopular in exchange for giving you the TRUTH of God’s Word. The Bible does NOT deal in traditions, it is the Word of God. You have been lied to by the Vatican for long enough!

            “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” -Colossians 2:8

          31. Lizfan says

            You sound like a bona fide conspiracy theorist. Please loosen your tin foil hat, it’s a little tight.

          32. Justice says

            The top six U.S. male serial killers were all gay:

            • Donald Harvey claimed 37 victims in Kentucky;

            • John Wayne Gacy raped and killed 33 boys in Chicago, burying them under his house and in his yard;

            • Patrick Kearney accounted for 32, cutting his victims into small pieces after sex and leaving them in trash bags along the Los Angeles freeways;

            • Bruce Davis molested and killed 27 young men and boys in Illinois;

            • A gay sex-murder-torture ring (Corll-Henley-Brooks) sent 27 Texas men and boys to their grave; and

            • Juan Corona was convicted of murdering 25 migrant workers (he “made love” with their corpses).

          33. Lizfan says

            & this has what to do with Christianity or the article?

          34. Justice says

            In 1st Timothy 1:15 the Apostle Paul said, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS; of whom I am chief.” The reason why Jesus Christ came into this world was to SAVE SINNERS. May I say to all you religious folks who teach a false gospel… let Jesus SAVE SINNERS! Salvation is of the Lord. It is the Lord’s job to save sinners.

          35. Waykent says

            Please, provide proof.

          36. Lizfan says

            Didn’t Jesus also want us to go out and preach his Gospel? How do sinners get saved if they don’t know they’ve sinned? Isn’t that the purpose of religious folk telling people to repent, to let people know they’ve sinned? How do people get saved if they don’t know Jesus, & how do people get to know Jesus if no one tells them about Him?

          37. Waykent says

            You are lying. The Greenter River Killer is a heterosexual.

          38. Justice says

            If Jesus didn’t come into the world to condemn sinners, then neither should we. Jesus came to SAVE SINNERS and that is the wonderful message of the Gospel. Romans 4:5 wonderfully proclaims, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Amen and amen! A man’s faith is COUNTED for righteousness, because we have no self-righteousness of our own to offer God (Isaiah 64:6). The Bible says here that Jesus justifieth THE UNGODLY, by faith. That is the only type of person that Jesus ever saves, an ungodly person, for to be anything else is self-righteousness.

          39. glorybe2 says

            Funny thing is that the Holy See does not recognize most protestant sects as legitimate religions. They do recognize Methodists and a few others.

          40. Hopefull1 says

            For your information the aztec people embraced cortez because they were enslaved by the cheifs and many were also sacrificed in ceremonies. The people wanted to be freed from their leaders or cortez never would have won.

          41. Hopefull1 says

            If the government falls what will you do.You think you will be accepted anyplace else. People lost everything fighting for this country and if it’s so bad why is everybody coming here. We accept more imigrants than all other countries combined. You want the USA to fail death to you and idiots like you!

          42. ted j says

            you are a moron…plain stupid,,,you are anathema..

          43. jaybird says

            Wait until the UN/One World Government takes over with Dictators ruling everything.

          44. melmack 1 says

            I guess every group has a scummy bottom feeder and now we know who and what you are. Uggg

          45. dinkerduo says

            Well—and God Bless America to you! Don’t like it here–LEAVE!

          46. glorybe2 says

            Real Americans do not hate other people. “All men are created equal.” is not a joke. It is the founding agreement among patriots.

          47. l.bell says

            You know I truly believe that statement is only partly correct.our founding fathers only intended the words “all men are created equal to mean all American men and women after all there is man in woman ( and do not try to misconstrue man in woman in an inappropriate way it’s not) with that said I can back up my statement and their intent and meaning with this .” These men our founding fathers were forming a new Nation not trying to take over the world therefore the only people they intended to include in “all men” could only mean Americans or future legal Americans . That’s that.

          48. Joyce White says

            Enjoy your dreams laddie! Unfortunately, you will probably not be around to see that happen.People like you will be among the first ones purged. It will be Christians first, homosexuals next, and then people like you who have no sense of loyalty. The thinking behind that statement is well known. “If you wish for the downfall of your own country you obviously would not be loyal to any country.If you think life is so great in South America, there is no anchor tied to your ass. Just go down there and live. Of course you might get caught in the stampede of immigrants coming to U.S.A. (that horrible country that is destroying the world). Any country run by man is going to fall far short of perfect. We are no different than any other country. But there are many obvious problems which we must deal with. Muslims are one of them. It is not because they are not wanted. In the beginning when they came they blended in and contributed to the society in general. But now they are demanding that we adopt Sharia law which can not co-exist with Constitutional law.For example, If we adopt Sharia law,If your mother is out of her home and she speaks to a man who is not her husband or a relative, some Muslim man has the right to beat her. If that sounds ridiculous, it works like this what is law for one is law for all. The Muslims do not want Constitutional law, they want their religious Sharia law. So, yeah, Muslims are a problem

          49. glorybe2 says

            Think a bit. Name one other nation that is almost continually involved in foreign wars. Panama, Grenada, Peru, all of the near eastern countries as well as the iron curtain countries, Argentina, Cuba, the list simply goes on and on. These military actions are eating our economy alive. We are talking trillions of bucks for all this nonsense. And you wonder why we have high taxes and very few benefits.

          50. Jarhead says

            Likewise forcing straight tax payers to cover the higher Health Care costs of the LGBTQ cabal…….

          51. azsequaya says

            Michael;,, It`s not the people (most of us) of the USA, It`s the politicians, the elite bankers & the Illuminati (worldwide) that are “using” America & Americans as “SCAPEGOATS” to complete their plans of Global Control !!! ALL (& not most of us) Americans are NOT in on the plan. The U.N., the Bilderberg Group, CFR,IMF, & Illuminati are the Guilty Parties.

          52. Pam Dirac says

            Michael, FYI: Tu Quoque is not an argument, it’s a logical fallacy. Because some priests bang the altar boys (and girls in some churches) doesn’t excuse Muslim “boy play”. ” I think Xenophobes should be executed”. Of course you do: mass murder is the one thing you liberals/commies/leftoids excel at.

            “Ask Native Americans in South America how wonderful Christians have been
            to them. Incas, Aztecs, mayans all suffered at the hands of
            Christians”. Yes, let’s. And then we can ask all those Native Americans whose people were sacrificed on the Aztec and Mayan altars to honor their sun god what *they* thought of Cortez and his Christians. Remember, Cortez landed near what is now Vera Cruz with less than 200 men, and arrived at the Aztec capital at the head of a very large army of Natives who joined him along the way.

            As for the rest, the US of A was locked into a struggle with the Soviet Union in the Cold War. Perhaps you’ve heard of it? Yeah, mistakes were made, and maybe all too often the US was too myopic because of that. War, even a cold one, is an ugly business.

            “I cannot wait until 2024 when China takes over as the worlds economic
            super power. It will be great to see the USA grovelling like it should
            be”.

            Be very careful for what you wish. You just might get it.

          53. Earl Meyers says

            And you sir are a POS! You don’t like America then get the F*** out,a lot of good people have died so you could spew such BULL****.It sickens me when those such as you use the Freedoms granted by our constitution to degrade our nation,I am not a rich man but send your address and I will gladly buy your ticket out of here.

          54. REK says

            Difference is Muslims rape children, women, men and it’s acceptable in their savage religion, if a priest is found guilty he will be punished

          55. melmack 1 says

            The loony left coast. If the “BIG ONE” comes it should curve that portion of the USA off and allow it to drift west into the vastness of the Pacific…

          56. Emily Brobst says

            Thank you. You can tell who the Christians are (the real ones, who try to be generous while maintaining their integrity). You know darn well that those “customers” are looking for big bucks awards from a court ruling, so they shop around until they find an easy mark. It is sad, knowing that they will have to repent and ask forgiveness to avoid the second death and to become one of Christ’s own.

      5. Karole Conaway says

        I agree about the muslims, Pamela. And the first muslim that needs to go is obama… TO THE FIRING SQUAD! He has never been a Chistian or an American! He is an infiltrator like so many muslims in governments around the world. They failed in the past to take over the world. This time they are doing it from within and those in power everywhere are losing to them… sacrificing their families and their people!

      6. Roger Short says

        AMEN!

      7. Jarhead says

        Bad publicity will not help the Baker…..

      8. Justice says

        The Gay Report, published by homosexual researchers Jay and Young in 1979, revealed that 73 percent of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19 years of age or younger.5 (5. K. Jay and A. Young, The Gay Report (New York: Summit Books, 1979), p. 275. )

        1. Pamela says

          So sad… Ruining our young men like that. They need to be locked up and throw away the key!

          1. Justice says

            Ana Kasparian further states…

            “They are able to be as hateful as they want to be. They are allowed to hate gays, right. But we’re also allowed to talk about you and judge you, which we’re doing right now on the show.”

            —Ana Kasparian (The Young Turks; published July 21, 2012)

            It is Ana Kasparian and her boss Al Gore who are filled with hate. They’re all promoting the homosexual agenda, which is 100% against the Commandments of God in the Bible. Ana accuses Christians of using the Bible to justify hate and ignorance. What a sad little woman! She’s the one who is ignorant of God’s Word. She’s the one saturated with hatred for Christians and the truth. Homosexuality is a horrible sin, which is the lowest a society can go according to Romans chapter one. Here is the progression of degeneration in every society that rebels against God…

            We do not glorify god or give thanks to Him

            We become vain in our imaginations

            We become wise in their own eyes

            We make a false religion

            We worship the creature instead of the Creator

            SOURCE: Unisex -by Pastor Jack Hyles | MP3 sermon

            The Bible says that even the prayers of homosexuals are an abomination…

            Proverbs 28:9, “He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.”

      9. glorybe2 says

        Christ does not accept those who hate.

      10. Justice says

        Let the truth be known… homosexuality is a menace to society and undermines the moral integrity of a nation. God will not be mocked! Homosexual lust is not love. In Romans 1:26, God calls such lusts, “vile affections.” “Vile” means “morally reprehensible.” Homosexual affections are MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE! If Rosie O’Donnell wants to label Christians like me as “radical” because we believe the Word of God, then I’m proud to be radical for my Lord. O’Donnell wouldn’t be calling Christ-honoring Christians “radical” if it weren’t for the compromised, weak, cowardly, carnal, apostate, so-called “Christians” who have become homo-friendly. Did you know that Christianity Today is homosexual-friendly? Christianity Today teaches teens that it’s “normal” to be confused about sexual feelings, and that “Some same-sex activity or experimentation does not automatically mean that you are gay.” Can you believe what you are reading… this is from Christianity Today!!! Why should God have mercy on this wicked nation? I believe God says to men of God today, the same Words He spoke to Jeremiah concerning Israel… “Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee” (Jeremiah 7:16).

        1. Pamela says

          Wow! thank you! That was the exact scripture that I was just looking for! Our Father is awesome!!!

      11. Jim says

        Just simply tell them, “No, it wasn’t the cake. It must have been the shrimp or lobster that made you ill.”

      12. JONDO says

        SUE THEM FOR TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS,YOU DONT WORK FOR THEM THAT’S THOSE PEOPLES JOB,TO COME OVER HERE AND CLOSE AMERICAN BUSINESSES DOWN WITH THE HELP OF OUR CROOKED GOVERNMENT OF THUGS. AND OUR CROOKED AMERICAN LAWYERS ARE JUMPING ON THE BAND WAGON. THEY HAVE TO SUE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THR THE ONLY ONES WHO WORK FOR A LIVING. EVER SEE A MUSLIM SUE ANOTHER MUSLIM OR A MEXICAN SUE ANOTHER MEXICAN.

    2. BH says

      They, or at least other Chistians in a similar business, need to institute a policy where all of the employee uniforms have a Christian msg on the. The table cloth could have a cross or other Christian symbol on it. When preparing at the site, Christian themed music would be played. Do this at all events, then it would not be different at a homosexual union ceremony. Probably would have a booming business and would not haven on worry about homosexual problems, or bad product problems. And if the homosexual couple still wants this caterer, consider it a mission field and proclaim the msg boldly.

      1. JONDO says

        Time every one told them, ( THE QUEERS ) to go to h-ll. They cant take property away from every one. Sooner or later the rage will come out and put these b—–ds in thr place, Besides this is just a distraction from all the other failures of this corrupt administration.

    3. Dennis Chase says

      Time to tell the govt., and those sick queers to go yo hell !

      1. Croco Dile says

        What those bakers did should be a lesson to all who want a real change.
        Their way is NOT the way to beat the system !
        Their way is be BEATEN by the system.

        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          GO AWAY TROLL !! FAGGOT LITTLE TROLL!!

          1. Croco Dile says

            AHHHH…… Mr. Witzidiot is opening his mouth again.
            And out comes SH*T, as usual !

          2. Coolcat says

            Croco’s best pose.

        2. Coolcat says

          Go change your diaper. It is leaking again.

        3. proudtexan62 says

          The face that is under that boot is going to be the face of the axis of evil that is trying to destroy America. It’s NOT HAPPENING, fool. OUR WAY is OUR WAY and YOUR WAY IS NOT THE SYSTEM! It may be YOUR system but it is not THE SYSTEM. You ignorant morons are not going to FORCE anyone in this country to do ANYTHING you tell them to do if they don’t want to. You need to get that and move on. Your life is your life and you go on and live it just like you want. Just leave those who don’t want your life alone. Find you a gay bakery to bake your cakes and create your own little twisted world. We have better things to do than deal with your silly crap!!! I wish the worst problem in the world today was finding someone to bake a cake. If that was the case, we wouldn’t have a problem one and this world would be perfect!!!

      2. Cotton says

        Yes better pray for all of them to go to Hell, I am sure that is what God wants you to do…

        1. Croco Dile says

          God is love :
          “And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love” (i John iv. 16)

          God is not love :
          “The Lord thy God is a consuming fire” (Deut. iv. 24)

          Is compassionate :
          “The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger, and of great mercy (Ps. clv 8)

          Is revengeful and cruel :
          “God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; and is furious the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries” (Nahum i. 2)
          “I will send wild beasts among you that will rob you of your children” (Lev. xxvi. 23)
          “Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury … and ye shall eat the flesh of your Sons and of your daughters” (Lev. xxvi. 28)
          “A wind from the Lord brought forth quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp … and while the flesh was between their teeth, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against them, and he smote them with a great plague” [for desiring a change of food from manna] (Num. xi. 31)
          “And that night the angel of the Lord smote in the camp of the Assyrians 185,000 men” (2 Kings xix. 35)

          Prayer shall be answered :
          “Every man that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth” (Matt. vii. 8)

          Prayer shall not be answered:
          “Then they shall call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but shall not find me” (Prov. i. 28)

          Forbids murder :
          “Thou shalt not kill” (Ex. xx. 13)
          “And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death” (Lev. xxiv. 17)

          Commands murder :
          “Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp and slay every man his brother … his companion, and … his neighbor” (Ex. xxxii. 27)
          “Now, go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and Suckling” (i Sam. xv. 3)

          1. Cotton says

            It is important to note that these differences are because the “good” ones are from the New Testament, while the “bad” ones are from the Old Testament. From what I know most christians mainly follow the New Testament, while the “fundamental” christians follow the old testament.

          2. Coolcat says

            Satan quotes scripture once again.

          3. Cotton says

            Literally Satan.

          4. Croco Dile says

            True, they like to separate those “testaments” even though without the old the new is impossible. No original sin (old) no need for Jesus. And there is none 🙂 They better worship the lovely Mickey Mouse. Less harm !

          5. Cotton says

            Even religion goes through evolution, it doesn’t mean christianity itself is bad, it is just some people in it take it too far. But I digress, it is a freedom to believe in whatever god does or does not exist, just please don’t try to rub it in other people’s faces too much.

          6. Croco Dile says

            I have no friends on this website, Cotton 🙂
            Why should I hold back ?

          7. Cotton says

            You’re right, I should of mentioned that only applies in real life, you can say anything on the internet!

          8. Croco Dile says

            Definitely !
            In real life I’m different 🙂

            The internet is a special place.

          9. tony newbill says

            here is the Agenda ya’ll ,

            Agenda
            2030: The UN plan for global socialism , http://www.stridentconservative.com/agenda-2030-the-un-plan-for-global-socialism/

          10. Hopefull1 says

            Ok, show me where this is happening now. I only hear of Christian’s and Jew’s being slaughtered in today’s world.

          11. Croco Dile says

            What ?????

            Harsh criticism and skepticism surround what is being labeled an errant U.S. bombardment of a hospital in Kunduz that left 22 people dead — many of them volunteers with Médecins sans Frontières (Doctors without Borders, the humanitarian aid agency) — but doubt lingers about the vague official story for a reason.
            http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/did-obama-bomb-doctors-without-borders-for-opposing-tpp.html

          12. Hopefull1 says

            So was it the pope or some rabbi who know of they ordered the bombardment or was it Obama?

          13. Croco Dile says

            You read in what you want to read in, and read out what you want to read out.
            You must be a Christian.
            Or a Communist….. which is not really different since Communism is a religion.

          14. Hopefull1 says

            So you answered that just like a politician. I think we should make common sense a religion.

          15. Croco Dile says

            There are enough gullible people around, so you definitely can make a religion of whatever you want. Harry Potter as a messiah would be good for an easy start. Try it !

        2. suz says

          Yep that is how Rome fell . They can’t reproduce on their own.

          1. Cotton says

            Rome fell because of many factors, and that is definitely not the main factor, if you could even call it one.

    4. Patriot47 says

      This is not about rights. This is 100% about the state controlling what your principals are.

      1. worn out 123 says

        Hello MY FIRIEND!!!!!!!! Succinct and right on target. No one has said it better. You win the comment of the day award! Tyranny in its womb.

      2. Hopefull1 says

        Really, soon they will take your house for disagreeing with the political party of the day.

    5. loran says

      Good idea. Make the frosting out of Ex-Lax.

    6. marlene.langert says

      Remember what the pie maker put in the pie she brought for her former employer in “The Help”!

    7. Roger Short says

      Great idea! I’d make sure they never wanted another cake from me!

    8. Justice says

      In the United States, homosexual activists are more circumspect about their efforts to gain access to children than they are in Canada or Europe. While NAMBLA has regularly marched in homosexual pride parades in New York, San Francisco and other major cities, homosexual activists publicly disassociate themselves from pedophiles as part of a public relations strategy.

      Yet homosexual groups are actively recruiting gay youth” through such groups as The Sexual Minority Youth Assistance League, the HettrickMartin Institute, AIDS service providers and various agencies that assist runaways. A concerted effort to change age-of-consent laws has not yet emerged, but some ominous signs portend an eventual effort. When Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was an attorney for the ACLU, she co-authored a report recommending that the age of consent for sexual acts be lowered to 12 years of age.” ).3 (3 “Sex Bias in the U.S. Code,” Report for the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, April 1977, p. 102, quoted in “Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Feminist World View,” The Phyllis Schlafly Report, Vol. 26, No. 12, Section 1, p.3. The paragraph reads as follows: ‘”Eliminate the phrase “carnal knowledge of any female, not his wife, who has not attained the age of 16 years” and substitute a federal, sex-neutral definition of the offense…. A person is guilty of an offense if he engages in a sexual act with another person…. [and] the other person is, in fact, less than 12 years old..)

      The public still has a revulsion against child sexual abuse. In fact, whenever there is an attempt to show a connection between pedophiles and homosexuality, the standard response from the activists is that as many as 97 percent of all pedophiles are heterosexuals and/or married men. Thus, they deflect attention away from their own proclivities to have sex with children.

    9. glorybe2 says

      You can bet that the bakery would be sued and perhaps charged with a hate crime for deliberately baking a lousy cake.

  5. MuslimLuvChrist says

    either bake the world’s shittiest cake already,
    or video the same thing at a muslim bakery and sue them for a million dollars

    1. sandraleesmith46 says

      Muslims are allowed to refuse.

    2. TheKing says

      are the gays suing the Muslim bakeries for refusing to bake them cakes? If not, how come? It seems the Gays are attacking ONLY christian organizaitons. Perhaps it is time to put the shoe on the other foot. Do not employ gays and let them go broke and see how they like it.

    3. beegeegirl says

      someone did that … asked a moslem bakery to bake a cake for a Christian wedding, complete with Christian symbols … were thrown out !!! there WAS a video of it, but it didn’t see very much activity when it came out !!!

      1. MuslimLuvChrist says

        the anti-Christian agenda doesn’t care if muslims hate gays

  6. KayO says

    Well, if I had the money, I would make sure this family lived well on MY money…free home, free utilities, free food and spending money, etc. The government can’t come after our money or our property for this.

    1. sandraleesmith46 says

      Watch them try!

      1. KayO says

        As long as folks stay within the legal limits, they can’t. The LBGT community would hang themselves right along with the Christians if they tried.

      2. Dennis Chase says

        Get ready, it`s coming..

  7. tom s says

    Sounds as if the “gays” are trying hard to arouse some push back from the ungays…..

  8. pmxpilot says

    Oregon and Colorado USED to be great places to raise families…

  9. sandraleesmith46 says

    This has NEVER been about equality, office “marriage” at all; from the beginning it has been part of the “Mark of the beast” NWO destruction of all Christians. Not just enlarging them but literally destroying them. That Mark renders all who accept it UNWASHED, building what Jesus did at Canary for them, because they will no longer human. This isn’t to that phase yet; it’s conditioning by intimidation, for that. Klein’s did that pair NO harm, emotional or otherwise! Declining to cone To your party is NOT harmful! They just as an easy way to hurt others for their own gain and took it! Shows how hateful homosexuals are; they’d destroy a family, including children out of sheer hate! Just like theorIzing co-conspirators in this war against God!

  10. Raul says

    Chocolate pie

    1. Coolcat says

      Chocolate “Fudge” is their first choice.

  11. Original Rebel says

    This bunch of governmental pimp hypocrites … who do they think they’re fooling? I hope an expert Constitutional lawyer or group will get involved to help these folks out.

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      Actually, a highly trained sniper could eliminate 3/4 of our problems.. THINK !!!

      1. Original Rebel says

        I have to agree, just didn’t want to be the one to make such a drastic statement. I usually get all kinds of crap for saying stuff like that.

  12. Granny Filec says

    I wouldn’t pay up either. Its their business & can run their establishment they way that want to. The gays should be ashamed of themselves. I have never been against the gays, but what they are beginning to do, has me wondering what the new generation of gays and what they are doing to undermine their cause. Its just like the blacks, & if you keep pushing your BS on people, you will wind up with the same feelings from the straight/ white people. Ignorance must be catching in the black & gay community. Tell the government to go take a flying (censored).

    1. Michael says

      The state should be sued and each individual including the judge. Take their property if they want “gays” to receive what is not theirs.

      1. Croco Dile says

        Okay, you will sue it, but who will convict the state ?

        The state itself ?

        http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/they-have-lied-to-us-about-the-courts-independence/

        1. proudtexan62 says

          That is a pretty threatening statement and my answer to that is “you want to bet?” Government at all levels has been tainted by Obama and it will be changed very soon. These radicals will be getting back to being Americans or we will send them packing with Obama or the illegals and the criminals will be going to prison. Obama has a choice, prison or Mars!!! We might have to build another prison in the middle of no and where for them but so be it, they did the crime and they will have to do the time!!! I would prefer it be built so far underground, they would have to pump air to them. Life sentences without a chance of parole.

          1. Croco Dile says

            Nobody will go to prison. Ever !
            Obamao is just a puppet and there will be many more puppets in the WH.
            You better drop your delusions……

      2. JONDO says

        Same thing happen when a farmer cussed out some illegals trespassing on his property, The dam government gave those illegal b—–ds his farm., Of course the laws excuse was the farmer was an undesirable anyway, They could say that about anyone, You or me. And steal what we have.

    2. JONDO says

      Would you believe a queer if he said he found an anvil in his cake, I wouldn’t pay any attention to them.Thats what has to happen, IGNORE them. Thats what we did in the factory and they stayed in thr dam closet.

  13. johnm says

    I WOULD BAKE A CAKE FOR THEM BUT IT WOULD BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE CAKE THEY EVER SAW(AND PROBABLY THE WORSE CAKE EVER ) I AM AN AUTO MECHANIC BY TRADE !

    1. Coolcat says

      Load the ingredients with ex-lax.

  14. johnm says

    LET’S FACE IT FOLKS ,THIS COUNTRY HAS GONE TO HELL IN THE PAST 7 YEARS, AND THE FUTURE LOOKS BLEAK , I FEEL SORRY FOR ANY 20 OR 30 YEAR OLD COUPLE FACING THE FUTURE !

    1. Dennis Chase says

      I agree; I doubt it can be saved now !

  15. Mike Spanjer says

    are they trying to open season on queers this is BS

    1. Dennis Chase says

      Like a bounty?

      1. David~~ says

        Do it for free~~

  16. Betty says

    Glad I don’t live in Oregon seems the whole west coast belons to gay and Lezzies

  17. JIMBO says

    I have to agree with JONDO below. There are good cakes and not so good cakes. If I got a not so good cake from a baker, I certainly would not go back to that bakery. There is more than one ways to skin a cat.