Churches to Iowa: Stay Out of Our Sermons

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Two churches are suing the Iowa Civil Rights Commission because the commissioners believe they can exercise control over pulpit speech. Led by the Fort Des Moines Church of Christ, the federal lawsuit accuses the commission of overstepping its bounds by interpreting an Iowa discrimination law much too broadly.

The state passed an amendment to state civil rights laws in 2007, extending legal protection to sexual orientation and gender identity. This amendment was not seen as particularly controversial until this year, when the Iowa Civil Rights Commission released a “Provider’s Guide” that caused Christian pastors in the state to stand up and take notice.

In the guide, the commission addressed the question of whether or not state discrimination laws applied to churches. The reply was not encouraging.

“Sometimes,” the commission answered. “Where qualifications are not related to a bona fide religious purpose, churches are still subject to the law’s provisions: For example, a child care facility operated at a church or a church service open to the public.”

The problems with that answer are numerous. For one, it puts the commission in charge of deciding which aspects of a church are “bona fide” in their religious purpose. It doesn’t take a creative imagination to see how this power can be abused. In fact, you don’t have to use your imagination at all. The commission makes it clear that any church services “open to the public” would be subject to the law. Well, for 99% of churches, this includes every service. Churches, by and large, are not secretive, closed clubs. The goal is not to keep people out; the goal is to draw people in to hear God’s Word.

Even legal scholars with a liberal viewpoint say the commission’s power does not include censoring Christian sermons. In the Des Moines Register, University of Iowa law professor Paul Gowder said, “The notion that the Civil Rights Commission can prohibit a church from sermonizing in whatever hateful or discriminatory way they want is absurd on its face.” Gowder hardly sounds like a conservative culture warrior, but he understands that the First Amendment protects religious freedom and free speech – even when others don’t like it. Especially when they don’t like it.

To paraphrase Donald Trump, we either have a First Amendment or we don’t. We are either free to exercise our religious beliefs or we aren’t. If liberals just have to keep inventing “protected groups” to limit religious freedom and the right to free expression, the war is already lost.

 

374 Comments
  1. Croco Dile says

    “….the federal lawsuit accuses the commission of overstepping its bounds….”

    We are told that the ONLY legitimate means we have to affect our government is to peacefully work within the system. But does the government work peacefully when it does things the people don’t want? No. They control the system and the system is nothing but FORCE.
    If you don’t like what they do they come put you in a cage or kill you. Where is the peacefulness there ? Peacefulness is a one way street. You must comply with whatever they say.
    The people ASK for more government not knowing that government is nothing but a gun pointed at you and the power crazy people in government are more than happy to give you all you can handle.
    http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/how-it-is-done-to-you/
    .

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      1. MAHB001 says

        flagged you scum puppet.

        1. S.D.Roberts says

          Likewise.

      2. Panquitch says

        Carolyn Presley, if that’s your name. Get off of these sites, I don’t think that many people are interested in your scam. They want to discuss politics.

        1. Valerie A Clark says

          I blocked her.

      3. GodBlessRealAmerica! says

        IDIOT!

  2. MAHB001 says

    As in all communists states….

    It is all about control.

    1. jimmy midnight says

      There’s a certain amount of flim-flam going on in this post, too, Mr. Mad. I just scanned the referenced “Providers’ Guide” online, in which I could not find any clause containing any references to church services. (We agree that state governments should have zero say about those, even though the public is almost always invited.)

      Activities like running day-care’s or polling stations will inevitably lead to disputes, which will eventually lead to rule-making or court decisions. Don’t let them get you excited about stuff that may or may not even exist.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Agreed, It is no longer wise to trust any MEDIA source.

        BUT, if you re-read the article, there was a question as to whether or not the state laws applied to churches…. and the answer from the commission was not encouraging…

        I do not expect you would find the commissions interpretations of the laws in the laws itself…

        Which comes down the the core problem… Liberal Progressives are now interpreting the English language to suit their ideological whims.

        How else could Hillary be innocent?

        1. jimmy midnight says

          “Innocence” is NOT what Secretary Clinton embodies. On the other hand, laxity, and frailty, and a, “Let the staff do it,” attitude, just aren’t crimes.

          Linguistics is another YUOOOGE!! issue. So let’s start by agreeing to the possibility of a distinction between “not guilty” and “innocent.”

          1. JB says

            How about “unqualified and incompetent”?
            “Untrustworthy at a basic human level”?
            “Unfit for Pres of the US?”
            These to me are what hillary embodies.

          2. pineapple says

            BillClinton says: “In law school, Hillary worked on legal services for the poor.”
            The facts are: Hillary’s main extra-curricular activity in law school was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing and killing a federal agent. She went to court every day as part of a law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations and develop grounds for appeal.

            Bill says: “Hillary spent a year after graduation working on a children’s rights project for poor kids.”
            The facts are: Hillary interned with Bob Truehaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him.

            Bill says: “Hillary could have written her own job ticket, but she turned down all the lucrative job offers.”
            The facts are: She flunked the DC bar exam; yes, flunked. It is a matter of record, and only passed the Arkansas bar. She had no job offers in Arkansas – none – and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She did not join the prestigious Rose Law Firm until Bill became Arkansas Attorney General and was made a partner only after he was elected Arkansas Governor.

            Bill says: “President Carter appointed Hillary to the Legal Services Board of Directors and she became its chairman.”
            The facts are: The appointment was in exchange for Bill’s support for Carter in his 1980 primary against Ted Kennedy. Hillary then became chairman in a coup in which she won a majority away from Carter’s choice to be chairman.

            Bill says: “She served on the board of the Arkansas Children’s Hospital.”
            The facts are: Yes, she did. But her main board activity, not mentioned by Bill, was to sit on the Wal-Mart board of directors for a substantial fee. She was silent about their labor and health care practices.

            Bill says: “Hillary didn’t succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994, but she kept working at it and helped to create the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance.”
            The facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I know; I helped negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals’ tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds.

            Bill says: “Hillary was the face of America all over the world.”
            The facts are: Her visits were part of a program to get her out of town so that Bill would not appear weak by feeding stories that Hillary was running the White House. Her visits abroad were entirely touristic and symbolic and there was no substantive diplomacy on any of them.

            Bill says: “Hillary was an excellent Senator who kept fighting for children’s and women’s issues.”
            The facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One set up a national park in Puerto Rico . A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer’s or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 911 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire NY delegation. Presently she is trying to have the US memorialize the Woodstock fiasco of 40 years ago.

            Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton:
            She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our country (that’s you and me!) when it comes to the war on terror.
            1. She wants to close GITMO and move the combatants to the USA where they would have access to our legal system.
            2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qaeda phone calls to/from the USA .
            3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.
            4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qaeda cells and supporters in the USA .
            5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists even though such tactics might save American lives.

            One cannot think of a single bill Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our country in the War on Terror. But, one can think of a lot of comments she has made that weaken our country and make it a more dangerous situation for all of us. Bottom line: She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned.

          3. JB says

            Wow. Some of this I knew and some I did not. She is truly despicable. And this is, according to our lame Pres, the most qualified candidate ever? What a joke. God help us.

          4. movingwaters says

            Thank you for this very informative post. I am amazed she didn’t even pass the DC bar exam. Most of us here are familiar with her general attraction to cop killers,Communists, and anarchists.

          5. jimmy midnight says

            I LIKE the ACLU, and donate regularly. The ACLU is pro-freedom, and you’re apparently pro-war.

          6. Tired... says

            Everyone is free to donate to the religion of their choice…

          7. MAHB001 says

            Man your stuff is good….

          8. movingwaters says

            When a person is known to be a criminal, narcissist, a skilled liar, and just generally arrogant and evil, fair minded people are going to let the evidence speak for itself. Hillary broke many laws in this deal. Other people have done this in a much less egregious fashion, and suffered a great deal for their mistake. Hillary Clinton considers herself above the law. If you don’t that, you are the only one.

          9. Tired... says

            Let’s start by agreeing that innocence and “laxity” may not be the only explanations for her behavior.

        2. Tired... says

          Good response. However, the FBI Director’s refusal to recommend charges indicates that in his view
          there was not enough evidence to reasonably expect a conviction…guilt
          or innocence was never his to determine.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Yet, Comey’s actions determined Hillary’s innocence???? The elites had it set up that way from the start. There never was any chance that our System would actually convict Hillary of anything… There is a class of individuals above the law, which means we are no longer ruled by law….

            Comey lacked moral courage to do the right thing. Our society has been brainwashed by liberal progressives that have been chipping away at morals because morals is the last line of defense against their goals of some sort of Marxist Communism.

            Unity, Family, Patriotism, Morals, all are under attack. Words have no meaning anymore. Elites hypocritically use them one way to suit their needs to justify their actions, and then just the opposite way to crucify their enemies actions.

            The Elites enemies are independent thinking individuals…

          2. Tired... says

            I agree with your observations, but the lack of a recommendation to press charges is not synonymous with innocence. Hillary wasn’t charged, but she is not innocent of gross negligence (at the very least). Her defense should concern those who support her because, not only did the FBI demonstrate that she is dishonest, apparently she is so incompetent that she doesn’t understand the importance of securing sensitive information from the prying eyes of our enemies. Richard Nixon is looking more like a saint every day…

          3. MAHB001 says

            I understand exactly what you are saying…

            However, the uninformed will simply conclude from the lack of recommendation of Hillary is that she is innocent. That is what the trolls on these sites are pushing.

            What the lack of recommendation means to me is the end of the rule of law, and the establishment of a ruling elite class that is above the law.

            To the hoards of lemmings out there, it means that Hillary is innocent. Sad to say.

          4. MAHB001 says

            Fight the MEDIA at: http://www.madashellboycott.com

        3. pmbalele says

          Repubs and TPs are very angry with Trump for choosing Pence as VP. And in fact that reflects Trump has an IQ of 99 very low for a leader. GOPers are asking Trump to drop out and to go home to NY to his wives. We are told Pence is KKK operative and therefore a racist, sexist and a bigot. In fact, Pence looks like a retard to me. Look, he is short and fat like Trump. Compare that with Obama’s pick – Joe Biden. Both are tall and good looking. Americans love to elect good looking presidents. Trump/Pence ticket is DOA. GOPer might as well fold and go home. Let’s prepare for Hillary to take over from President Obama. Vote for Hillary on November 8 at 9 am. I will love to see Hillary confront TPs and Repubs moron in Congress in 2017. They know Hillary does not put up with Repub nonsense. She will tell them off like what she did with Benghazi hearing. John McCain and Trey Gowdy came of the hearing room whining: “She too hawkish; we cannot stand her. That exactly what TPs and Repubs deserve.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Troll,

            You post Liberal wishful thinking and lies. Nothing more. Your post is not worth reading.

          2. MAHB001 says

            What a line of shit… Do you have any concern for your own personal integrity? Because, I couldn’t be paid any amount of money to come on threads like this and lie like that….

            Hillary is incompetent, and a liar… She turned her back on AMERICANS in Benghazi, concocted lies to make her and the zero look good…

          3. pmbalele says

            Well, you cursed when I said Trump was done as WH wannabee. Now his own wife made it even worse yesterday. She lied was college graduate and plagiarized on Michelle Obama speech. You and TPs are done now. Better pack- and go home. Trump is out.

          4. MAHB001 says

            You sure are getting your fill of the left stream media I see. You be a puppet and don’t even know it.

            Hillary is incompetent and a liar. Deal with it.

      2. JB says

        As to church services being specifically mentioned, it never said they were, but that it was any services open to the public. Well, that includes church services.
        Also, concerning day care or child care of any type, that is part of the church’s ministry, and it is not simply baby-sitting, it is a worship service and opportunity to minister to these kids at their age level. Parents who send their children know this and expect it. Therefore this is a “bona fide religious purpose.” So here again, it is fair for the church to expect the child care workers to agree with their faith principles.

    2. daveveselenak says

      If you really want to be informed then I suggest TRUNEWS.com! They just revealed that the Texas governor Abbot had been treated at an army hospital with second and third degree burns from his knees down – he is in a wheel chair – only hours before the Dallas false flag was carried out! There are no coincidences with this regime, Scalia’s death also points to this!

      Here we go again, and again, and again, another false flag timed conveniently as the Muslim-Marxist was out of the country and right after the disgraceful mockery of the laws of justice experienced with the ole ugly commie whore “Hillary the Pillory’s” get out of jail free card pass! This communist NWO regime has total control of every facet of government as they cleverly dismantle America! One shooter, two shooters, three shooters, four shooters – they don’t know, they say, but they do know because this Godless, Satan worshipping regime has their dirty hands all over this one just as the previous ones – Orlando; Boston Bomber, San Bernardino – and the future ones! This was a well thought out and planned operation and not some spontaneous, last second spur of the moment get even massacre! The sheeple just can’t or don’t want to believe that we have EVIL, POWER hungry demons at the top of our government but in the end when it is too late they will of wished that they had paid attention and took action instead of keeping their heads up their asses! REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION – guaranteed; that is why these false flag operations will escalate in order for these Godless ghouls to brainwash and bully the sheeple into gun control, the last nail in the coffin of the “TRANSFORMED * TRANSGENDERED” AMERIKA! States should start manning militias in order to send a message to “Moscow West” as they prepare with war against Russia which has already begun

      1. MAHB001 says

        Join http://www.madashellboycott.com

        The elites most powerful tool is the Goebbels styled MEDIA that has the same “values” as the elite ruling class.

        1. daveveselenak says

          Bingo, they are one and the same! Godspeed to you, one of the minority in this new Babylon that understands the situation at hand!

          1. MAHB001 says

            Spread the word! Thanks, God Bless

          2. Apolloone says

            I agree. I don’t know who you’re referring to as the new Babylon but I believe it’s America Yahweh gave several prophets over 100 characteristics of a Singular nation that fits America like a tailor made suit. The sheep are told by their false prophets that this “End of Days” nation will rise up in Iraq where ancient Babylon was. Here are just a few characteristics that Iraq doesn’t have 1.Iraq has no mother, America does 2 Iraq isn’t made up of many races of people and many Jews America does.3., Iraq hasn’t many natural resources many lakes, many rivers, some dividing and deep water ports Iraq has No deep water ports. but America does 4. Iraq isn’t the home of the rich men, the great merchants of the whole Earth.5. Iraq isn’t a super-power and doesn’t mount it’s defenses up to the heavens America has NASA and the most advance Air Force in the world. 6 Iraq didn’t rise up in the wilderness marching through the land getting it form others, America did. 7. Iraq was never blessed with a golden cup and corrupted that golden cup with abominations but America has. 8. Iraq isn’t the hindermost nation, meaning the youngest, in context meaning the youngest superpower but America is. There are many more reasons why the prophets weren’t describing Iraq but too numerous to put on here. The nation in question is an end times nation that is destroyed at the time of Messiah’s return, if we are in the last days and I believe we are then modern Babylon wont have time to develop the clues given about it. Some are claiming it’s the whole world yet Yahweh says plainly it’s a Singular nation, sadly no other country comes close but America.

        2. pineapple says

          In case you thought there might be some bias in news reporting….

          How’s this for having the “inside track”?

          YOU HAD A HUNCH THE NEWS SYSTEM WAS RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT SOLVE THE PUZZLE.

          ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

          CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

          ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney

          ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

          ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

          CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
          And now you know why it is no surprise the media is in Obama’s pocket.
          Ya think there might be a little bias in the news ???
          It also explains the cover up of Benghazi………

        3. Carol says

          EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

      2. Carol says

        THIS IS WHAT … Hitler’s, BROWN SHIRTS (THE THUGS! (BLM ?…! of Obama & Soros!) Hitler, USED THEM! TO INTIMIDATE … PEOPLE!! WITH!! THEIR VIOLENCE AND BULLYING AND THUGGERY! – Right up until he had THEM!… all Murdered, for doing!!!! what HE Told THEM! TO DO!!) Can you say?… USEFUL IDIOT’S?… Hymmmmmmmm?….

      3. headonstraight says

        On the other hand, Abbot is not disclosing how he got scalded. If you wingnuts were consistent with your conspiracy theory mode of operation, you would initiate all kinds of speculation about “What is he hiding?” But he is a conservative, so he gets a pass. There is no reason at all to believe that some insidious “coincidence” is involved in the timing of the Gov’s burns and the deadly attack on Dallas police. If you say differently, then put up the goods right here.

        1. daveveselenak says

          “Headupyourass”, if anybody gets a pass then it is your Muslim-Marxist jihadist in the “Outhouse” We will see how the end times play out and which one of us is the fool – it won’t be me, guaranteed! Keep your “headupyourass”! No autopsy on Scalia – how convenient , that too is a conspiracy, not conspiracy theory!

  3. Skippy says

    The liberals are at it again trying to take away our First Amendment rights. These people wouldn’t know what was in the Constitution even if it bit them on the you know what.

    1. GodBlessRealAmerica! says

      Obama should be impeached!!!

    2. Mary Anne Civiok Barth says

      This seems a strange sentiment coming from someone in a party which has worked so hard to deny LGBT people the same rights others have.

  4. J J says

    No government or agency should have the right to tell churches what or what not or how to preach to their congregation!!! We have ‘freedom of religion’ in this country!!! Government agencies these days especially run by liberals are all about controlling American’s everything!!!

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    1. Conservative says

      We need to start monitoring and fining Muslim Mosques. It is quite apparent that Muslim’s are not subject to the standards as real AMERICANS!

    2. GodBlessRealAmerica! says

      Evil Lying Crooked hateful Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Matthew Cserhati says

    Those 2 churches have all the right to sue that committee back to where it came from, and the committee should also apologize!! This is abominable! This kind of thing happens only in Communist countries!!! I know because my parents are from Hungary and I lived there 18 years!! Separation of state from the church!!!

    1. Amish Prepper says

      Amen! You certainly said that right on! Thank you.

      1. Matthew Cserhati says

        Thank you!

    2. GodBlessRealAmerica! says

      Liberal Socialist communist thug party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      2. Apolloone says

        I’ve said many times this evil woman Clinton is more of a Fascist than a Communist, though there isn’t any difference when it comes to freedom.

        1. se72748@aol.com says

          You have no idea what a fascist is or you would not be calling Hillaty that,you would be calling Trump a fascist.

          1. Apolloone says

            Hillary has a name for you people: ” Useful Idiots”

      3. TadhgMcLir says

        Wow, great “picture”. Kind of shows her True face.

        1. Gary Smith says

          How true

          1. AntiGOP says

            True enough that it’s fake and you don’t know it because your a dumbass.

            dhmo.org

          2. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            You are a Liberal Moron spreading lies, deceit and propaganda. You following Cnn you idiot!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/492d65dea7aca55dd37b4b104b38561214fafa330d6ccc4a1d7740a1172ae8a8.jpg

          3. AntiGOP says

            That’s your loosing mentality at it’s best…I’m done with you…your an asshole.!!

          4. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Your Parents raised a liberal Moron Like you! You low energy POS!

          5. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            heil Hillary

        2. Uzoozy says

          That is Donald Trump in the background

          1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Its your racist poppa in the back that raised a Low energy low energy liberal racist pig!

          1. AntiGOP says

            He’s already planning on murdering millions of Muslims…if he’s elected he’ll make Hitler look like a chump…

            “My photos are Truth about Crooked evil lying Hillary”

            Really…using photoshop to get to your lying point.

            Trump is truth to you…what about all the people he fraudulently stole money from.
            Trump University…that was never a University…aka fraud.

            Where’s his Taxes…Oh right…he’s in a IRS Audit so he can’t show them…
            What about his previous Taxes…can’t show them either…why not.

            That would show the real con, tax evader, liar he really is.!!

            YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TRUTH…Your all about nothing but lies.!!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8d0cf8de05e92394c0bcbc1064f2660b2b63da88946965c9c61472aaf39e9bc.jpg

          2. rdells says

            This is the ONLY thing you’re not lying about – good for you!!

          3. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Low energy!

          4. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            You agree obama is???

          5. rdells says

            I agree it’s Bush’s fault and YOU are a total waste of good air, a Fascist Pig, a cesspool dwelling low achieving intellectually handicapped Crazy Nazi escaped asylum inmate, and a racist Ass Hole. About 27% of the people in this country are vile evil scum. You know, you and rest of the GOP MORON base.

          6. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Yes you Agreed Obama is! Wow a first liberal to agree that Obama is a faiuled President and a hater of America! Now for your low energy ignorant trailer trash comments u are pathetic, weak and open that mouth sdo i can take a dump

            You Liberal MORON, ya Im talkin to you and you wont do shit, you liberal coward bring it in !
            Lets get it on my liberal trash!!
            94% of Liberals are IGNORANT Racist low energy haters.

            You scum!
            hahahhahahahahhahaha GONE BRO!!

          7. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            LAZY MAN

          8. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            CROOKED EVIL LYING DISGRACEFUL LIBERAL WACKO HILLARY AND THE DEMOCRACKHEAD RACIST THUG PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26312ff9c4e3e7836a361d94184d10f46b9039bebfd17a10d165aeff015fac40.png

          9. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            weak like you!

        1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

          GOD BLESS REAL AMERICA WE ARE COMING TO TAKE AMERICA BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          CRUSH OBAMA AND HIS EVIL LIBERAL HATERS OF REAL AMERICA!

          WE ARE A JUDEO/CHRISTIAN NATION ONE NATION UNDER GOD WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT OBAMA WE COMIN!!! HOW DARE YOU OBAMA!!!

          PRESIDENT TRUMP IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      4. AntiGOP says

        The difference between my photos and yours…mine are not photoshoped…they are real

        1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

          Anti DNC= The Liberal Democrackhead hate party of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          1. AntiGOP says

            Nice to see how you forgot about Cheney/Bush…

            America hasn’t…

        2. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

          Open that mouth we need to take a dump!

          1. Uzoozy says

            That’s what the whiteys did to slaves

          2. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            That’s what Im going to do to you open that mouth wide my Liberal rat!

          3. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            U racist Liberal thug!

          1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Crooked evil Lying Hillary and the Liberal racist party!!!

      5. Jonathan Graves says

        And saving the trees at the same time!

        1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

          LOL

    3. bpgagirl22VAnow says

      Well, here you see Matthew, the onslaught of the New World Order that CLINTON has signed up for and so many others.

      1. Apolloone says

        I call them Globalists whatever they call themselves, they aren’t pro-America, their so-called New World Order isn’t anything new, it can be traced back to ancient Babylonia when King Nimrod tried it, and it certainly wont be orderly, by signing on with this One World Government is the perfect clue that these people are under the control of the dark side, the words the angel spoke to the Prophet Daniel confirms that the dark forces of Satan can get control of man’s government, and the Apostle Paul backs it up when he warns us who we war with. This system is described by Daniel and the One who destroys it, so there is no stopping it by mere mortals.

    4. lenati says

      Matthew, you are 125 % correct amen to that. the aclu is the biggest bunch oh you know what with all this offrnding stuff.

      1. Dross Cool says

        THEY WILL NEVER REMOVE IT FROM OUR HEARTS AND SOULS ,,, DEMON BASTARDS

    5. Paul Mitchell says

      Thanks Matthew you are so right our country is in big trouble the new book by Eric Bollling WAKE UP AMERICA does a good job of breaking down freedoms we have due to our constitution

    6. Carol says

      Matthew, – The Federal Gov’t. is Separated FROM AMERICANS!! SO WE CAN…. BE!!… FREE!! FROM THEIR IGNORANT INTERFERENCE!! OF OUR WORSHIP! OF ALMIGHTY G-d !!!! THEY KNOW IT !!! … AND THE GLOBAL COMMUNIST’S!! HAVE TRIED TO SUPPRESS!! ALL AMERICANS!! WHO WORSHIP IN FREEDOM!! AND TRUTH!!… FOR ABOUT 100 YEARS!!! BUT DEFINITELY…. SINCE LBJ, IN THE 1960’S !!!!!!!!!!!!!… FOR YEARS AND YEARS … TO LIBERTY and BEYOND !!!!!!!!!

      1. Dross Cool says

        LBJ=== LOW BUM JERK

    7. AntiGOP says

      Better yet…

      1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

        Save America deport a Liberal racist Democrackhead to Saudi Arabia!!

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2311fe9e52e589533b09487337fe4692aa873cb90352b11302df24a070d8c5b.jpg

    8. CJeanne says

      There is NOTHING in Constitution about “separation of church and state”, but this is just an outright religious freedom right. The government cannot address our God given rights, including freedom of religion.
      “The Separation of church and state’ that people talk about is actually that the federal government cannot set up a state religion as England has with the Church of England being the “State’s Church”!
      However, the world, including the US have been on road to anarchardy and we are very close. People have been gradually allowing the government to take them from us. All the corruption in the government hasn’t even been acknowledged for most part til now!
      Trump discussed tax exemption status of church NOT being on any conditions like this…..when he met with those 900 Evangelicals a month ago. He said he would address these issues but people had pastors needed to speak up too!

  6. larry stotts says

    The only way these politicians know how to can give a right to someone is by by infringing on someone else’s rights. When have these enlightened screw balls become the judge of what’s deviant and what’s accepted normal sex behavior. I never see or hear anything about discussion or voting on changes. Lawyer’s have now skirt the system when there is not enough support for the rights that their clients want. I’m for your bedroom bus. is your bus. I even thought the word liberal meant free country don’t try to make me accept your deviant ways. I mean where does it stop. I mean people this mighty nation is floundering with stupid not ignorant politicians that are so drunk on power it’s time for a citizen represented government. Trump with term limits on the rest, make a civic minded duty not a way to get rich for the incompetent politicians.

  7. larry stotts says

    They’re trying infringe on 1st amendment rights and our religious freedoms when the real elephant in the room is that please don’t hurt the feelings of all fundalist muslims who embrace sharia law.

  8. Luke says

    George Washington, the Father of this country said…This country cannot be ruled without the use of the Bible..He is smarter than any liberal, LOL

    1. rdells says

      I never saw a quote by GW that even resembled that one! If it IS true I stand corrected.

      1. LMinAppleton says

        Luke/rdells: According to the website “George Washington’s Mount Vernon” (mountvernon dot org) under “Spurious Quotations,” the actual quote is, “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.” Apparently this is potentially misattributed to George Washington. The website continues, “The quote is frequently misattributed to Washington, particularly in regards to his farewell address of 1796. The origin of the misquote is, perhaps, a mention of a similar statement in a biography of Washington first published in 1835. However, the quote that appeared in the biography has never been proven to have come from Washington.”

    2. rdells says

      You’re wrong about everything aren’t you. The least you can do is admit it.

      1. Luke says

        I’m right on both accounts.. You liberals better start helping us Christians fight the islamofacist or you’ll be using the quran as your guiding Bible..
        So pull your head out of your obama, he’s the muslim in-charge now..

        1. rdells says
          1. Luke says

            Not very American of him. ?

          2. rdells says

            No, but if you watched some of the routines that followed they’re better.

          3. ABO says

            That is quite possibly the stupidest response I’ve read here, or anywhere else for that matter.

    3. pineapple says

      My cat is smarter than any liberal, and my cat is not very smart.

  9. larry stotts says

    When they wrote the definition on religious rights they probably thought people would be smart enough to tell the difference between religious freedom and a religion that comes with its own rulers, laws, punishments and a willingness to martyr themselves and kill innocent people. If your religion of peace can’t leave it’s forms of governing and laws at the door don’t come here. If you could keep from killing each other and us there would be no trouble. If you don’t love the opportunities and freedoms here leave, because we will will not have people live here that want to kill us. I’m glad that most of the great generation aren’t around to see the new left wing America. They probably would have drawn similarities to Russia and the new European socialist policies. I ‘m tired of the government deciding for me and trying to make all retired people their wards. Temporary help is all they should be involved in if you think giving more and money to a business that’s failing and wants more is going to succeed I envy your ignorant bliss, but boy are you going to be screwd when it happens because our government isn’t held to same standards as working middle class has.

    1. paul prehn says

      Unfortunately we already have LOTS of people here that “want to kill us”, and the current administration is inviting more in by the DAY. This is all by design – orchestrated by the NWO group. Trump is one of the few that isn’t on board with their plans – that is why the media, etc. lie about him and do everything they can to disparage him, while allowing the old commie, Hillary, to get away with lying, murdering, perjuring and every other vile thing she wants to do.

      1. pineapple says

        The Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorist organization that the Obama regime refuses to admit is terrorists, is ramping up its efforts to infiltrate the American way of life, making Shariah law be held above the very document and set of laws upon which
        this country was built – the Constitution.

        Investors Business Daily (IBD) reports on a very disturbing effort by a group that is attempting to sell itself as simply a Muslim coalition. The Muslim Brotherhood is working actively towards developing a third political party, “turning Muslims into an Islamic voting bloc.”

        ‘Muslim voters have the potential to be swing voters in 2016,” said Nihad Awad in launching the benign-sounding U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, whose membership reads like a Who’s Who of Brotherhood front groups.

        “We are aiming to bring more participation from the Muslim community.”

        USCMO also aims to elect Islamists in Washington, with the ultimate objective of “institutionalizing policies” favorable to Islamists — that is, Shariah law.

        This development bears careful monitoring in light of the U.S. Brotherhood’s recently exposed goal to wage a
        “civilization jihad” against America that explicitly calls for
        infiltrating the U.S. political system and “destroying (it) from
        within.”

        The subversive plan was spelled out in hundreds of pages of founding archives that the FBI confiscated from a
        Brotherhood leader’s home in the Washington suburbs after 9/11.

        Translated from Arabic, the secret documents listed a number of Brotherhood front organizations — some of which just happen to make up the newly formed USCMO.

        Among the groups involved in this attempted takeover of the American political system and destruction of America as we know it is the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). This group is been directly linked to
        the terrorist group Hamas not just in the way of verbal support, but financial support as well.

        Another group is the Muslim American Society, described as “the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States.” According to Investors, his group praised Osama bin Laden as “a visionary who believed in an Islamic state in Afghanistan.”
        That’s right, the man responsible for the death of so many Americans at the hands of Muslim terrorists described as a ‘visionary’ by a group that wants to take over the American political system.

        The article continues to reveal just how dangerous and disturbing this plan to form a new Islamist party truly is. Oussama
        Jammal, the chair of the new party, led a mosque in Obama’s hometown of Chicago named Bridgeview Mosque. The history of this mosque, and the fact that its leader is attempting to infiltrate the American political system, should send a chill down the spine of Americans everywhere.

        One of that mosque’s leaders was arrested and jailed for funneling millions to Hamas. And one of its most honored guests was bin Laden’s spiritual mentor, the late Palestinian cleric Abdullah Azzam. Some of Azzam’s relatives are Bridgeview members.

        “The walls were covered with Hamas posters and recruiting literature showing masked gunmen brandishing automatic weapons. . . . You could see daggers plunged into Jewish hearts wrapped up in American flags,” said Steve Emerson,
        describing the mosque in his book “American Jihad.” “They even had a library filled with terrorist videos.”

        As Bridgeview’s president, Jammal blasted the FBI for arresting terrorist members and even expressed doubts that al-Qaida was responsible for 9/11.

        Not to worry. As head of the USCMO, he’ll see to it that the council places “premium” importance “on defining the common good based on the Quran and the model of the prophet (Muhammad), and coordinating institutions to implement that common good in American society.

        IBD reports that the group has a 30 point policy platform for “promoting Islam’s core universal principles to benefit American society.” A $3500 yearly payment is required of any Muslim who wants the ability to vote within the group and $1000 if one wants to merely join.

        This is definitely a development that must be watched. The purpose of this planned Muslim political party is certainly not to simply give Muslims a voice, but rather is part of their plan of worldwide domination and dismantling of America and the United States Constitution

    2. JB says

      What you say sounds (and is) so reasonable. How is it that so many people just don’t get it?!?

  10. rdells says

    Any wack job can start a church. No law forbidding that.

    1. SouthernPatriot says

      Any wack jobs can comprise a commission and abridge a citizen’s Freedom of Speech. There is a law forbidding that.

      1. rdells says

        So true. The reality is there are just too many wack jobs.

        1. SouthernPatriot says

          Just returned from the Left Coast. There in our lower left state of California they breed granola citizens: nuts, flakes, and fruits.

          1. rdells says

            Yea, a lot of tourists there-those aren’t the natives, though I only know a handful myself.

    2. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

      Well maybe so but what is going on now is for us to be controlled by these that think they’er our Masters.

  11. larry stotts says

    If a guaranteed rate of savings had been paid for our social security deposits and people were told that the government wouldn’t rob it and pay people who never paid in. OUr savings would have grown. I know some in government think they are helping, but if you earn the money that you’re using to help others you are far more capable than a politician.

    1. pineapple says

      Lyndon Johnson looted the Social Security Trust Fund and placed it in the general revenue fund to make it appear that the federal deficit was less than it was. Typical Democrat.

      Now the Social Security “Trust Fund is nothing but I.O.U.s from the federal government which is 20 trillion dollars in debt.

  12. SouthernPatriot says

    Present day leader groups, such as at NC State University can go back and grab a rule or law passed years ago and give it a new interpretation treading on First Amendment rights of its students, so that students are no longer “permitted” to share their testimony of Jesus, or speak about any matter not related to “protected speech” on campus or risk suspension or expulsion.

    The Houston LeziNazi mayor thought she had power over local churches that opposed her perverted new rules on restroom usage, but she found she did not. The Commission will find they cannot violate the First Amendment in an effort to the politically leftist correct.

  13. Frank Brady says

    Free speech – Especially when they don’t like it. Speech needs no protection, if everyone agrees with what is being said!

    1. rdells says

      And if they don’t?

      1. Frank Brady says

        Free Speech -(Especially when they don’t like it!)

  14. Bill Kay says

    Do not allow these absurd bunch of half wits ba—-ds to get away with this crappola !

  15. Eleanore Whitaker says

    Communist, fascists..all from bigots, racists, bitchy perimenopausal and fat gut beer bellied swaggering, drawling nuts. On their knees on Sunday mornin’ and back at the hooch from payday till it’s time to pretend to be religious on Sunday. Phonies….Try again.

    1. rdells says

      Beautiful Ellie, but you did leave out “Hypocrite”.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker says

        Thank you. But, to be honest? Some of them are too “ignernt” to know how to be hypocritical. They just go from one mundane day to the next assuming that’s how the rest of the country exists. rofl.

    2. David says

      Eleanore!!!! Who, exactly are you referring to? Can you identify the object of your scorn? Or, are you just bloviating again!

      1. Eleanore Whitaker says

        And he returns. The mental midget another thread soundly castrated. The mentally deranged lone wolf pyscho who thinks he is always right.

        Right wingers eat their own and then when their hunger gets rabid, like malnurished dogs, they look around for prey. Sound like YOU King David of the Shitbag brigade?

        1. David says

          Eleanore!!! Can’t you answer the question without resorting to your vile, crass, semi- incoherent ranting? What about using your “gun” tonight since you don’t have male companionship?

          1. Eleanore Whitaker says

            No I can’t. Or to be more to the point. I WON’T. And wow don’t you control freak right wing nuts go berserk over that loss of power?

            How about eat your gun or shove it up that trailer sized ass.

  16. PatriotGal says

    It’s about time churches stand their ground and fight back. Rolling over has not been the answer. Stand up and FIGHT the righteous fight!

    1. GodBlessRealAmerica! says

      He will be gone!!!!

      1. pineapple says

        Hopefully he won’t be replaced by Hillary “the Hag”.

  17. papa doug says

    Churches ARE political organizations using religion as a front to prosecute their agendas. Be that as it may followers are entitled to worship in churches without fear of government intrusion. Indeed “we either have a First Amendment or we don’t.” The same is said of the Second, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments along with all the others and don’t anyone forget it!

    1. Mary Anne Civiok Barth says

      Yes, and the Second Amendment was written back when slave owners “needed” their militias to control their slaves/chattel.

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Sorry, Papa, hae speech is a crime.
      Hate speech is not permitted by the 1st. Ammendment.

      1. JB says

        Free speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. It is only liberal interpretation that created the idea of “hate speech.” And who decides what is hate speech? To me and many others, what the Orlando shooter was saying before his rampage (the many statements that got him investigated by the FBI) was hate speech. Was he prosecuted? No, he was protected bc he was a Muslim and the Pres thought he was being unfairly profiled. They dropped the investigation, he went on to kill people. So even when a hate speech law seems to be a good idea, the gov’t doesn’t follow through fairly and consistently. Hate speech laws are a subjective, biased, political concept.

      2. Panquitch says

        Hate Speech is not a crime under the constitution. You are allowed to like or dislike anything or anybody for any reason. Libel and slander are against the law, not expressing your personal opinions and beliefs.

  18. David in MA says

    If this is upheld, be sure to include the black and muslim entities, there you will hear some read subversive preaching, remember Rev. Al, Rev. Jesse & Rev White? And the muslims make no secret of their preachings.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is not covered by the 1st Amendment.
      Hate speech is a crime.
      The religious are not immune from hate speech laws.
      .
      Muslims in Amerixca have no reason to need secrecy.
      Everyone in America is subject to the law.

      1. David in MA says

        There is no law against “hate speech”, it is covered by the First Amendment.
        And, I think it was Ben Franklin who said, I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it.
        Now, go take your damn med’s!

        1. AKLady2015 says

          “There are certain well-defined and limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or ‘fighting’ words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.” Frank Murphy, Justice, U.S. Supreme Court, 1942.

          1. David in MA says

            The opinion of one socialist judge, but, not a law.
            BTW: Read that again, s l o w l y.
            ” which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem.”

      2. JB says

        Calling sin sin is not hate speech. There is no hate involved in dealing with the sinner (all of us), only the sin itself. Hence the phrase, Love the sinner, hate the sin.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          You do not get to force your religiois beliefs upon others.
          Homosexuality is a naturally occuring variation. It has been documented in 1,400 mamallian species. God does not make mistakes.

          On the other hand. man has made many mistakesa, and continues to do so. Religion us the scourge of mankind. It has been continually used to foster abuse and hate.

          1. JB says

            Not forcing beliefs on others. This is about churches having the right to preach their faith. If you don’t like it, don’t go!! People have that choice, nothing is being forced on them.
            Right, God does not make mistakes, but men do. God did not create homosexuals that way (saying how often it occurs is meaningless, has nothing to do with whether it is sin or not sin); He did not create me to be a sinner either, yet I am and I struggle with it and rely on Him for forgiveness and guidance. Don’t argue that they were born that way. That’s your opinion, I disagree and we will not change each other’s minds. But the point is, yes, men and women are flawed and it is us that make the mistakes and distort God’s will. Man created “religion.” It is about rules and regulations thought up by man. That is not at all the same thing as Faith. Religion may lead one to be a vigilante and commit violence in the name of God; faith which requires prayer and following His will, will lead one to compassion, forgiveness, peace. Christianity is following Christ, and if you study his life, you will see that the things you categorize as “the scourge of mankind” are things Christ also would never condone and taught against. Those people that commit those things then, are not following Christ’s teachings and are therefore not truly Christians.

          2. Susan Short says

            Well said, JB. You get it, but AK Lady is a total idiot! I quit trying, some time ago, to try to tell her anything! She is hopelessly clueless, and will never see reality, because her head is so full of that liberal shxt!

          3. Jeff Rodgers says

            Aside from rare, abnormal, clinical, genetic mutation induced behavior, homosexuality in animals is the result of a strong, primal, overpowering urge to procreate where mates are not readily available.
            NOT for pleasure.
            I have yet to see the study where the non-aggressor animal “partner” is having a “good time”.
            Is this behavior really what you want to compare homosexuality in “higher thinking” human beings to?

      3. Karen Gaddy says

        Muslims are the most hateful of all. Is the government monitoring how Imams speak about Jews, Christians and other religions? The muslim holy book requires them to tax or murder Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc….anyone who is not a muslim. If this isn’t hate speech, I don’t know what is.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          The Holy Bible does the same. What is your point?

          1. Carol says

            YO! WEIRDO WITCH !!! WHY DON’T YOU FLY OFF INTO THE NIGHT!!!! WHERE YOU BELONG!?… AND LEAVE DECENT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY KNOW! AND ACKNOWLEDGE!!!! WHAT THE HELL…. HATE SPEECH REALLY IS!!! … ARE YOU READY TO WEAR A HIJAB, OR A BURKA?! AND BE BEATEN AND RAPED!! (BY LAW OF THE QURAN!) JUST BECAUSE …. YOU DON’T WANT SEX? OR BE STONED! OR LASHED?…IF THEY LIE AND SAY!… THAT YOU COMMITTED ADULTERY?!! IN THEIR!! TOTAL MAN’S WORLD????! HUH ????? THE HOLY BIBLE!! IS ABSOLUTELY NOT HATE SPEECH !! IT IS A LOVE STORY WITH HUMAN COMPLICATIONS (JUST AS NOWADAYS!) DOOFUS!!! PERHAPS YOU CALL HATEFUL: A LOVING, SACRIFICING !!!! REDEEMER!! WHO CAME DOWN HERE… TO DIE FOR HUMANITY ‘S SIN… AND FOR THOSE WHO SHALL BE! WISE ENOUGH TO THANK HIM!! AND ACCEPT HIS GREAT GIFT !!!!!!!!!! LEAVE YOUR HATRED!!!! FOR THE REAL HATER’S !!!!!!!! LIKE ISLAM !!!!!!!!!!! TOOTSIE !!! YOU HAVE GOT PROBLEMS! AND ATTITUDES! AND ISSUES !!!!!!!!!! YOU OLD ROTTEN GROUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!

          2. Susan Short says

            Don’t try to tell AK Lady anything! She is hopelessly clueless! I doubt that she has ever even read the Bible, but that won’t stop her from talking about it as though she knows something! I will not respond to that stupid bixch anymore, and you are wasting your time responding to her, because all you will get is some stupid, sarcastic response from her!

      4. LiberalismaDisease!!! says
        1. AKLady says

          .
          You are a liar.

          1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Not me you Moron Crooked evil lying Hillary the Fraud who got caught lying!!! who you support which means you are a misled Liberal liar as well as Crooked https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e9242945a748dd9d216007889479c34ef54d09c3c434fda9de0b7b610cf80a86.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d0e216801033e87b96bc9c1a16b2bebc6fed1a5afc53614ba9d467ae323aab0.jpg Hillary!!!

      5. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

        Seek counseling you ignorant wacko I wish I was President I would Deport your Ignorant ass to Saudi Arabia you liberal moron!

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  19. pysco says

    Tell the state to reread the 1st Amendment of the Constitution, states can’t make laws contrary tp the Constitution….. I haven’t an idea how much money these churches have to fight this law,,, However they will win…..

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
      Hate speech is a crime.

      1. pineapple says

        If hate speech is a crime, why haven’t you been arrested?

        1. AKLady2015 says

          1. speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group on the basis of national origin, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.

          1. Panquitch says

            Your definition of hate speech is not in the Constitution. Where did you get it from?
            If it is not libel, slander or threats it is nor against the law.

  20. Roy Bryant says

    Notice that Gowder characterized sermons that espouse a preference for a heterosexual lifestyle, as compared to a homosexual lifestyle, as “hateful and discriminatory.” I suspect that he has never described The National Education’s penchant for pushing the LGBTQ lifestyle on our children as “hateful and discriminatory” against the other 95% of the population.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      What?

  21. Matthew Cserhati says

    Dear Cornerstone World Outreach [one of the two churches],

    Psalm 118, King James Version (KJV)

    O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.

    Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

    Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

    Let them now that fear the Lord say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

    I called upon the Lord in distress: the Lord answered me, and set me in a large place.

    The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?

    The Lord taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

    It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

    It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.

    All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord will I destroy them.

    They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

    They compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.

    Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the Lord helped me.

    The Lord is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.

    The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.

    The right hand of the Lord is exalted: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.

    I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the Lord.

    The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

    Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the Lord:

    This gate of the Lord, into which the righteous shall enter.

    I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.

    The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

    This is the Lord’s doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

    This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

    Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.

    Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.

    God is the Lord, which hath shewed us light: bind the sacrifice with cords, even unto the horns of the altar.

    Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.

    O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.

    Always remember, whenever you are up or down, God’s steadfast love endures forever. Do not be afraid of man but always seek God’s will. Jesus is the chief cornerstone!

    God bless!

    Matthew

    1. James Edmond says

      Amen.

  22. jjmcl431 says

    i am not a religious person but the church’s are right. but by the same token church’s need to stay out of politics also. as the old saying goes, never mix politics, religion and women in the the same conversation. it will bring you nothing but heartburn and headaches.

  23. IgnoreTheFools says

    The politicians in America and the world have gone Crazy. It is the people’s response ability to Kick the Rats out.

  24. Janet Julien says

    TERM LIMITS on ALL POLITICIANS

  25. 32eagle says

    at first I did not understand this situation-but now that I do-yes the iowa blowhards giving room for gay crap can quit their heathen ways

    1. Mary Anne Civiok Barth says

      That’s some brand of “Christianity” you practice. Christ treated Mary Magdalene better than that. He also railed against the Pharisees. Somehow GOP “Christianity” warps Christianity to promote their preferences.

      1. JB says

        Yes, Christ was compassionate and kind to ALL, yet he NEVER said or even hinted that what they were doing was ok. So we
        can and should be compassionate to homosexuals as well as all sinners (and we all are sinners) but that doesn’t mean that we condone the sin. Christ asked that we turn away from our sins.
        And he railed so vehemently against the Pharisees bc given their education and social standing they were in positions of power and could have led so many people to God, yet by their hypocrisy and refusal to see their own sin, led so many away from God (sounds like the establishment on both sides).
        I don’t think you can compare the GOP any longer to every conservative, especially a Christian conservative. Don’t lump us together. Not remotely the same.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Do Not Judge
          …How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.… Matthew 7:5

          1. JB says

            And your point…?
            I wasnt judging, I was making the point that just bc Jesus was compassionate to a sinner didnt mean that he condoned their sin. In every instance he encouraged them to sin no more.
            I readily and openly stated that we are all sinners, and therefore all have “beams” in our eyes.
            If you think calling homosexuality a sin is judging, no, I am going by what the Bible has condemned, YET Jesus forgives. Again tho, we are to turn away from our sins, and may need to do this on a daily basis. I am no better and no worse than a homosexual; we are sinners who need God’s grace through Jesuis Christ. Period.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            You are forcing your religious beliefs upon others.

            Huge problem with your religious beliefs – God created homosexuality. It is not a choice.

            It is a normal variation which has been documented across the 1,400 of the 5,000 known species of living mammals.

          3. pineapple says

            “You are forcing your religious beliefs upon others..”

            Are you speaking to radical Muslims?

          4. AKLady2015 says

            Radical Christians are no different …
            All religious radicals seem to have the same culture — hate.

          5. JB says

            I am not forcing my beliefs on others. I am expressing my opinion just as you are expressing yours. Are you then forcing YOUR beliefs on others? Or does that only apply to those people with whom you disagree?
            I allow you to express your opinion and beliefs although they differ from mine, and I don’t accuse you of forcing them on me. Please allow me the same right.
            God did not create homosexuality. If this is where this argument is going, we are finished, bc you cannot and will not convince me of this, and you will not change your mind either.
            Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible as a perversion; He did not create something only to then condemn it.
            And just bc something occurs multiple times in different species (assuming I believe that) does not make it “right.”
            I do not hate homosexuals. That is your assumption.

        2. Mary Anne Civiok Barth says

          Which commandment teaches homosexuality is wrong? Why did God make some that way?

          1. JB says

            Not a Commandment, never said it was.
            God did not make them that way; He made us men and women. What we choose to do is on us, not Him. Scripture does teach that homosexual acts are sinful, but it’s not about condemning homosexuals, gays, lesbians, or transgender people. Rather, we should read God’s loving warning and offer of grace for those who have strayed from His will for sex (that includes adulterers, straight or gay, lusting, sleeping around, etc). We’ve all been guilty of this in some way at some time. We live in a fallen world with a fallen nature, but in Christ, we can be new creations.
            Just a few NT verses, not all…
            Romans 1:26-28 NIV
            26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
            Mark 10:6-8 NIV 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’So they are no longer two, but one flesh”
            1 Corinthians 7:2 NIV 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband
            1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Typical for what passes for a Christian in America.
      I suggest you look up the hate speech laws in your state —
      before you cross the line.

      1. 32eagle says

        I am a Christian that sees ethics violations everyday by hypocrites at my workplace-when it comes to my preacher- he is wonderful and a kind man except upon preaching the subject of homosexuals-that is where he really gets with it-and he has every right to do so-I could care less if the law said he couldn’t-his right comes from GOD ALMIGHTY

  26. MILES E DRAKE says

    This scheme is a crucial breakthrough for the left in the century-long struggle to deconstruct the Constitution and replace our republic with an oligarchical dictatorship. The First Amendment has since its adoption been the bulwark that has kept the Thought Police at bay, and this has been largely because religious belief and expression has been inextricably intertwined with free speech. Once religious speech can be separated, stigmatized and controlled the way is clear to the “reasonable regulation” that the Crown Princess of the Obammunist regime chillingly says she wants to impose on all of those pesky Amendments. It has taken 240 years but we are on the brink of losing the Republic as Franklin and Jefferson and Tom Paine warned, and we need to begin to take their advice about what to do next.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      I suggest you look up the hate speech laws in your state —
      before you cross the line.

  27. Brian E says

    Again with this. Separation of church and state, simple version, the state (read government) cannot tell the churches how to run the churches or what to preach on and conversely the church cannot tell the government what laws to pass or how to run the government.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Instead of foolish insults, I suggest you look up the hate speech laws in your state —
      before you cross the line.

  28. jimdarnall says

    We now have a reinvented Hitler running our nation.The same old Communist mindset. The disregard for the constitution continues

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Actually, hate speech is a N.a.z.i. mind set.
      It is a crime in all 50 states.

      Instead of foolish insults, I suggest you look up the hate speech laws in your state —
      before you cross the line.

      1. pineapple says

        “Actually, hate speech is a N.a.z.i. mind set.
        It is a crime in all 50 states.”

        If this is true, why haven’t you been arrested?

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Because, unlike you I voice fact and law?

          1. jimdarnall says

            Not really…, You are one lost soul to reality. The facts are what I just told you. You can ignore them if you wish. I do not speak hate, lies or any of the garbage as what is coming from the men I just mentioned. The sheriff In Dallas today also condemned these three men for their hate speech against the men and women in blue along with several including a Senator. I speak the truth not hate. You must not know what is hate speech vs. truth really is, therefore I am wasting my time trying to make a point with you. Oh by the way Obama is now being sued by certain folks in Dallas for his inciting violence against police along with Sharpton, Farrakhan and several members of BLM. You best wake up to what is really going on.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            You voice opinion that is slanted with bigotry, ignorance ans hate.

        2. SouthernPatriot says

          Ha!

        3. ABO says

          Damn good question, pineapple!

      2. jimdarnall says

        The Obama just came out again today with hate speech against the police department which again is disgusting He, along with Sharpton, Farrakhan continue to advocate violence. This is the hate and should be condemed that I am speaking of and cannot be denied. Don’t point fingers at those that are speaking the truth. Are you saying these men are not ranting hate speech? If so you need to reevaluate your thinking.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          You obviously have no idea what the lae definea as hate speech.

          1. Cathy aka OldTxGal says

            Why does Hillary Clinton always lie?
            Why does she do as she pleases, regardless of rules?
            Why do you believe she is an honest, honorable candidate for President?
            Why don’t you go away? You’re not welcome here.

  29. donl says

    FACT; When the Communists took over Poland, the party told the church’s what parts of the Bible they could read and preach from. This is called TYRANNY!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is hate speech.
      Check the law in your state.

      1. donl says

        I got that information from a catholic priest born and raised in Poland. I doubt he would lie about that.

      2. mac12sam12 says

        Hate speech is protected by the 1st amendment. Who defines hate speech? If someone doesn’t like what someone else says, can they call it hate speech?

  30. R. T. says

    Violation of Church & State !

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Sorry, there is no get out of jail free card for hate speech.

      1. R. T. says

        Then how do the Blacks & Muslims get away with it ?

      2. pineapple says

        Except for radical Muslims.

  31. bpgagirl22VAnow says

    Them taking these liberties to try to tell these churches what to do and how to preach is akin to those in the Biblical times trying to tell the Scholars how to interpret their INSPIRED WORDS OF GOD and what to do with it. Jesus said: “Give to Caesar that which is Caesar’s and God that which is God’s.” Those liberals had better back off if they know what’s good for them! God don’t love ugly! They might just hit a brick wall with this! Literally!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is a crime. Churches are not above the law.

      1. msskye says

        The church is a building? No it is the People of the church that are the church. Without the people there is No Church. Hate is not something the bible teaches. It teaches love, the greatest commandment of all. That said, I still say the state is wrong in passing laws against services in the church, or their freedom of speech. Oh gee here I go judging again.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Hate speexh has been a crime since the 1960s

          1. msskye says

            what of the church in Kansas, their minister has his people go to funerals of service men to call them nasty names. he has never been arrested. I don’t like what he does. I pray everyday that he sees the wrong in his actions. And my bible says love thy neighbor. and I would never tell my congregation to do any wrong, including setting them selves up as judges.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            Hate Speech: speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group on the basis of national origin, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.

        2. AKLady2015 says

          Your Bible seems to be very different from any I have owned.
          Even the New Testament is filled with anger and hate.

    2. msskye says

      Those who judge will be judged. The division of church and state did not say “only in certain circumstances may you interfere” I agree bpgagirl they should not tell the church how to preach sermons or what they should do.

    3. msskye says

      The division of church and state did not say “only in certain circumstances may you interfere” I agree bpgagirl they should not tell the church how to preach sermons or what they should do.

      1. AKLady2015 says

        What if the minister encouragers his flock to go rob banks?
        What if the preacher tells people to go murder anyone with brown eyes?
        There are limits even to the 1st Amendment,.

    4. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is not protectwd by the First Amendmwnt.

  32. Dale Wood says

    I’m from IOWA & the GOVERNMENT hasn’t the FAINTEST IDEA of how LARGE the can of WORMS is that they JUST OPENED

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Churches, ministers, priests, etc. can be prosecuted for hate speech. They are no above the law.

      Suggest you research the laws on hate speech in your state.

      1. pineapple says

        Does that include radical Islamists who preach death to infidels?

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Maybe you should increase your reading comprehension.
          While you are at it, decrease your religious bigotry and hate.

  33. AKLady2015 says

    In this country there is no right to speak fighting words—those words
    without social value, directed to a specific individual, that would provoke a
    reasonable member of the group about whom the words are spoken. For example, a
    person cannot utter a racial or ethnic epithet to another if those words are
    likely to cause the listener to react violently.

  34. Vetus_Leo says

    I know the old saw “if I were” is silly buuut, if I were Prez I would send every law that creates a protected group, LGBT etc. back to the hell they came from. The Constitution guaranties that all citizens of this country have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The whole reason this country was created was that all people should be treated equally. The old saying “need not apply” applies to special interest groups like these who “need no apply” for special status cause ain’t gonna happen.

    1. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

      Your post is unclear. Are you for freedom of speech or against it?

  35. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

    If free speech is destroyed, there is no freedom. That is exactly what has been wrong with every government in history that has no freedom of speech. Those in power use the non-freedom of speech to punish, persecute, and eliminate opposition. Late history lesson: Hitler…killed or tortured anyone who disagreed with Nazism. Stalin…Killed or had thousands killed who disagreed with him. Mussolini…Killed or had killed any and all opposition, even had his own son killed and had soldiers shot who refused to fight for Mother Russia, and not only that, had their families killed. Kings…it has been the disposition of kings and rulers to have subjects tortured or beheaded who may have said something negative about the king.
    Our founding fathers knew this and put it into the constitution so that the government or others in power cannot punish ANYONE for expressing his/her opinion about anything. Eliminate freedom of speech and then wait and see how long it will take for our country to degenerate into one of the aforementioned conditions. Absense of freedom of speech is the way to live in absolute fear and misery every day of your lives, because there are those who are always ready to run and tell someone what was said in order to ingratiate themselves with those in power. Anyone who is smart enough to connect the dots needs to exercise all their power to protect freedom of speech.

  36. Texas Belle says

    The Lesbian Mayor of Houston tried to make the Pastors give her their sermons in advance so she and her staff could approve them; it didn’t work. Government has no business sticking its nose in matters of the Church.

  37. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

    Freedom of speech means just that. It says nothing about “hate speech” nor any other kind of speech. “Hate speech” is a modern coinage by PC’ers. A person in power can intimidate his enemies by the threat of using what he determines as “hate speech” against them. One person may deem something as hate speech while another may not. If anyone can say anything he chooses without fear of governmental penalties, then there is free speech. We do not need, nor do we want, someone to be a speech policeman, or anyone else who has control over what a person says in public. Those who advocate any penalties for what a person says is going against the principles upon which this nation was founded and making a mockery of the blood of those who died defending it.

  38. glorybe2 says

    I do agree that the state can not control church sermons or teachings. On the other hand individuals who felt targeted by said speech should have the right to sue. For example a gay person who gets preached at with words that gays are an unnatural abomination should have the right to sue as the ministers wrath is selective. For example the minister might be overweight. For those familiar with OT law the sin of glutony is every bit as severe as sodomy as is masturbation. Yet these churches only preach what congregations want to hear.

  39. Ddenney1 says

    Read Matt. 25 through 25 too see why!!

  40. James keeling says

    Government…get your nose out of the churches! If you want to politically challenge churches,start at the Mosque!! Talk about hate topics!

  41. kassa1 says

    These political whores in our government seats think that they are or boss but you don’t care about the Constitution which talks about separation of church and state has nothing to do with the church saying what it wants to but it does have to do with the government trying to create their own church like you’re trying to shove the Muslim religion if you want to call it that down your throat. Evil Fears no words, however they do fear re-percussion.

  42. Walter Flatt says

    PASTORS ITS TIME YOU LED THE FIGHT AGAINT THE EVEL IN THIS WORLD AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT BEING EXEMPT. I BLAME ALL CHURCHES AND TAX EXAMPT ENTIES FOR THE MESS WE ARE IN.

    REV. JEFFRES IS THE ONLY PASTOR THAT HAS REALLY COME OUT FIGHTING, IT IS TIME ALL OTHER DID THE SAME, OR A LOT OF CHRISTIAN HEADS MAY FALL HERE. ADVISE ALL MEMBER TO ARM THEMSELVES.

    OBAMA, HILLARY AND KERRY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO, DESTROY AMERICA AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION. HE & HILLARY ARE TRYING TO BRING IN 160 THOUSAND TO GO ON OUR WEFLARE SYSTEM AND MAKE THE TAX PAYER PAY FOR THEIR UPKEEP.

    MOST ALL CHRUCHES WILL NOT BRING UP THE MESS WE ARE IN BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID THE GOVERNMENT WOULD TAKE THEIR EXECPTION AWAY & LOSING MEMBERS.

    MASONS, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS, EAGELS, MOOSE, AND ALL EXAMPT COMPANIES ARE THE SAME.

    THE FIRST 100 YEARS OF THIS COUNTRY MASONS HAD 14 PRESIDENTS AND 18 VICE PRESIDENTS, THEY STARTED THIS COUNTRY OFF RIGHT AND ALONG WITH OTHER TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, HAVE LET US DOWN.

    IT IS PAST TIME THAT WE ALL BANDED TOGETHER AND FOUGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. WHEN THE GOVERMENT FUNDS A SOURCE SUCH AS PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEY GIVE 20 MILLION IN TAX MONEY TO HILLARY, A DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, DONT THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING.

    ALL POLITICIANS ARE OBLIGATED TO PEOPLE THAT ARE FUNDING THEM AND MOST POLITICIANS ARE ATTORNEYS NOT BUSINESS PEOPLE. THEY KNOW TO CUT DEALS AND ARE NOTING BUT PUPPETS ON A STRING.

    WE NEED A STRONG BUSINESS PERSON TO RUN THIS COUNTRY, A STRAIGHT TALKING, IN YOUR FACE, TAKE NO BUNK FROM ANYONE, INCLUDING THE PRESS. ONE THAT IS NOT OBLIGATED. DONALD TRUMP IS THAT PERSON.

    I AM A CHRISTIAN, A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, A VETERAN AND 58 YEAR MASON, IT IS TIME WE FORGET OUR CROOKED PARTIES, QUIT WORRING ABOUT TAX EXAMPTION AND TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK.

    GOOGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES, THAT TELLS ABOUT THE CLINTONS LIFE IN DOPE, SEX PARTIES, MONEY LAUNDREY AND YES EVEN MURDER THAT WAS CONECTED. THIS TAPE IS 1 AND 1/2 HOURS.

  43. Mr Obvious says

    Here’s something so simple that most normal people in America do without thinking about it, interested well here it is, They comply with the order’s from police. They have the recourse to register objections later.
    SIMPLE SOLUTION BLM TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO COMPLY WITH LAWFUL ORDERS OF THE POLICE RECOARSE IS HIRE ATTORNEY IF YOU A LEGAL OBJECTION

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Youapparently were not around for the 1960s

  44. Mr Obvious says

    term limits and elected political positions should be filled with citizens only. Make it about civic duty no enrichments and cases of corruption should be serious offense. If politician think they’re needed make them non union hourly employees’

  45. AKLady2015 says

    Don’t preach hate.
    Hate speech is illegal.

  46. ShemSilber says

    If the original apostles of our Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) had obeyed the civil authorities (i.e., Rome and those who were illegitimately in the Jewish priesthood, such as Annas and Caiaphas, who were placed by the Roman government rather than by legitimate descent), then the witnesses and letters of the Renewed Covenant (“New Testament”) would never have been written, and we would not have their testimony concerning the Master Yahushua.

    Any red-blooded American citizen should see that this interference with the words that the preacher speaks to his congregation is both morally and ethically wrong, against the Constitution and especially against the free-will choice that Yahuwah our Mighty One put within us. If He gives us free choice, who are they to take it away, particularly if we are doing our best to follow the counsel of the Scriptures that He gave us?

    Praises belong to Yahuwah our Father, who will soon send His Son to lead us out of this mess that we have gotten ourselves into and into an age of everlasting peace and eternal life by which to enjoy it, in the Name of our Master Yahushua, omein!

  47. Gunflint Roseberg says

    Time for a hangin….

  48. Joyce White says

    This country survived for over 240 yrs without the government interfering with our religious freedom. The government is too big for it’s britches. It is time to put them on a diet.

    1. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

      You are right!

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Actually, your statement is entirely false.
      Government has interfered with religion since beforw American became a nation.

      Just ask America’s First People.
      Just ask the Mormons.
      Just ask the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
      Just ask Catholics.
      Reseasrch the Oregon School Law.
      Religion was a key factor used against Al Smith in 1928.
      Religion was a key factor uses against John F Kennedy in 1960….

      1. Joyce White says

        AKLady2015, Yes they did. But tell me. Which one of them has been obliterated. They all are active religions in this country. People worried about a Catholic being president because they have allegiance to a foreign power. (the Pope and the Vatican). As for Oregon, I can’t find anything. What was it about?

  49. Robert Cruder says

    A church can preach whatever it wants short of inciting violence. In the latter case it is a terrorist front even if it calls itself christian.

    When a church hires people to preach, it can choose them however it wants and can treat them in whatever way is stipulated in their contract. If it violates a signed contract then it gets sued in secular court like everyone else.

    When a church hires people for non-preaching jobs it is like every other employer. Perhaps it is even more constrained because its funds are subsidized by the public through tax exemption.

    There have been cases where churches sought public contracts for services to the poor or the aged and still violated public law. That included requiring recitation of their prayer before distributing meals that were bought with other people’s taxes.

    If a church pulls any of that arrogant BS, it should be stomped quickly and hard.

    Comparisons to Communism, Fascism or Nazism are not really arguments, do not substitute for arguments and are at best a sign of intellectual laziness.

  50. Alleged Comment says

    Good point! No business telling them what they can say. We don’t tell them what they can say. It’s bad enough we let them commit sodomy. But we let the judgment remain with Yahuah.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Bad news for you: God created homosexuality.
      Humans aren’t the only species that has same-sex pairings

      Years of research documaent that people can’t change their sexual orientation because they want to. A 2014 study published in the journal Psychological Medicine documented that a gene on the X chromosome (one of the sex chromosomes) called Xq28 and a gene on chromosome 8 are found in higher prevalence in men who are gay.

  51. ChaplainPeter says

    I cannot recognize any law that elevates sexual perversion to a protected civil rights status?? There is only one reason to do this; for persecution of Christians. We must not bow down to them. Don’t even play ball in that direction. Give them no room for any legitimacy; none. The times of testing is here in America for Christians. Pastors stand firm, steadfast.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Homosexuality is not a perveresion.
      Homosexuality is not a mental illness

      It is variation found accross the entire animal kingdom.

      Homosexiality is not a choice. In 2014, researchers confirmed the association between same-sex orientation in men and a specific chromosomal region.

  52. junkmailbin says

    proof again that if you make a law or statue, some Cretan of a pubic worker will interpret it and enforce it with the worst interpretation

    1. AKLady2015 says

      The Courts interpret it and enforce law.

  53. soldier for liberty says

    CIVIL WAR 2017 LETS SETTLE IT FOR THE NEXT 250 YEARS BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.

    1. rdells says

      Bring it on you incredibly dumb fuck. Won’t ask what you’re on but your very tiny brain has dried up like a raisin in the sun.

    2. msskye says

      save your ammunition, you will need it. scary world out here! find a good place to hide. sit back and watch the dummy’s fight it out then come back and collect the spoils. Like People below who think cursing will get them noticed.

  54. Randy Bower says

    The Liberals want total control of the people,sounds like tyranny to me.This is why they keep minorities down and enraged so they don’t realize they are being controlled.That way they keep voting for them,some day I hope they realize where their real enemies are,it is not the republicans it is the Liberals.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Why do you need to tell this lie?
      Why do you embarrass America this way?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

      1. Randy Bower says

        Why do you choose to live in denial?You have embarrassed yourself so many times on here with your backwards thinking opinions,and yes none the rest you are entitled to your opinion.Liberals are no stranger to lies and they keep repeating until they hope it sticks,to the point if someone differs from you thought process they are the liars.I know reality sucks but for the most of us we face it and live it.If you choose to live in the world of denial and make believe again your choice,but don’t condemn those that live in reality.

  55. Benjamin Michel says

    Hillary is one that will go a head with what B H O has started and that is to turn the USA in to a third world country!! That is why we all need to vote for TRUMP

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Baby Bush already did that.

  56. Daniel Graves says

    I agree with Mr. Gowder. If you give an inch, next time it will be a mile. The state or Federal Governments have no authority to regulate them.

  57. soldier for liberty says

    I see social media has given the spineless liberals a back bone, big talkers on here, but will run and hide in holes when we come!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      The Founders were not conservative Christians and likely would not have supported an officially Christian nation.

  58. Walter Flatt says

    KOREAN WAR VET 51/53, PASTORS ITS TIME YOU LED THE FIGHT AGAINT THE EVEL IN THIS WORLD IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE PREACHING AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT BEING TAX EXEMPT. I BLAME ALL CHURCHES AND TAX EXAMPT ENTIES FOR THE MESS WE ARE IN.

    REV. JEFFRES IS THE ONLY PASTOR THAT HAS REALLY COME OUT FIGHTING, IT IS TIME ALL OTHER DID THE SAME, OR A LOT OF CHRISTIAN HEADS MAY FALL HERE. ADVISE ALL MEMBER TO ARM THEMSELVES.

    CHRISTIANS, REGARDLES WHAT CHRUCH YOU BELONG TO, IT IS TIME YOU GOT TOGETHER AND GOT RID OF THE ROTTEN POLITICIANS IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE TO WORSHIP IN YOUR CHURCH. EVERY CHRISTIAN SHOULD GOOGLE AND LISTEN TO, {THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES) OH, IT IS ONE AND ONE HALF LONG AND IT TELLS ALL.

    OBAMA, HILLARY AND KERRY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO, DESTROY AMERICA AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION. HE & HILLARY ARE TRYING TO BRING IN 160 THOUSAND TO GO ON OUR WEFLARE SYSTEM AND MAKE THE TAX PAYER PAY FOR THEIR UPKEEP.

    MOST ALL CHURCHES WILL NOT BRING UP THE MESS WE ARE IN BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID THE GOVERNMENT WOULD TAKE THEIR EXECPTION AWAY & LOSING MEMBERS.

    MASONS, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS, EAGELS, MOOSE, AND ALL EXAMPT COMPANIES ARE THE SAME. WE ARE GOING TO SET BACK AND LET THE MUSLIMS TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY, IF WE DONT GET TOGETHER.

    THE FIRST 100 YEARS OF THIS COUNTRY MASONS HAD 14 PRESIDENTS AND 18 VICE PRESIDENTS, THEY STARTED THIS COUNTRY OFF RIGHT AND ALONG WITH OTHER TAX EXAMPT ENTIES, HAVE LET US DOWN.

    IT IS PAST TIME THAT WE ALL BANDED TOGETHER AND FOUGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. WHEN THE GOVERMENT FUNDS A SOURCE SUCH AS PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THEY GIVE 20 MILLION IN TAX MONEY TO HILLARY, THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO TAKE TAX PAYERS MONEY AND GIVE TO A PERSON RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

    ALL POLITICIANS ARE OBLIGATED TO PEOPLE THAT ARE FUNDING THEM AND MOST POLITICIANS ARE ATTORNEYS NOT BUSINESS PEOPLE. THEY KNOW TO CUT DEALS AND ARE NOTING BUT PUPPETS ON A STRING.

    WE NEED A STRONG BUSINESS PERSON TO RUN THIS COUNTRY, A STRAIGHT TALKING, IN YOUR FACE, TAKE NO BUNK FROM ANYONE, INCLUDING THE PRESS. ONE THAT IS NOT OBLIGATED. DONALD TRUMP IS THAT PERSON.

    I AM A CHRISTIAN, A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, A VETERAN AND 58 YEAR MASON, IT IS TIME WE FORGET OUR CROOKED PARTIES, QUIT WORRING ABOUT TAX EXAMPTION AND TOOK OUR COUNTRY BACK.

    GOOGLE, THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES, THAT TELLS ABOUT THE CLINTONS LIFE IN DOPE, SEX PARTIES, MONEY LAUNDREY AND YES EVEN MURDER THAT WAS CONECTED. THIS TAPE IS 1 & 1/2 HOURS BUT WORTH YOUR TIME.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” Thomas Jefferson.

  59. Joe says

    Through all Muslims out of are country they are pure scum so is there koran

    1. AKLady2015 says

      American ignorance and bigotry on display for the world to witness.
      Is it any wonder we arw called the “Ugly American”.

  60. wytzox1 says

    Prohibition ended many decades ago yet a church can still preach against the evils of alcoholic beverage consumption. Same sex marriage is legal yet a church still has a right to preach that homosexuality is a sin. Churches have the right to make their rules according to their interpretation of the bible and their moral beliefs. Members who don’t like those rules are always free to join a different church since religious rules of a church are not enforceable. Yet churches should have the right to preach their moral laws from the pulpit regardless of state laws as long as they do not advocate serious felonious action. ♠

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Churchs engagng in hate speech — so Christian.

  61. JoAnn Dolberg says

    It seems to me that since we have such tyrannical governance, churches ought to withdraw from their tax-protected status; once an organization begins to receive anything at all from the government, the government eventually steps in and begins to dictate what that organization can and cannot do. Government is supposed to protect its constituents from lawbreakers, but when the government itself becomes the lawbreaker, then it is time to dissociate from close alliance of any kind. Regarding taxation: render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s (money) and to God, the things that are God’s, (yourselves, as believers in Christ).

    1. AKLady2015 says

      You apptove of hate speech?

      1. JoAnn Dolberg says

        Let me put it this way for you: if you do not like for your parents to tell you what to do, then you ought to move out of their house.

  62. SickofPoliticks says

    The First Amendment was about freedom of religion. The FIRST one. The Founders must be spinning in their graves.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Freedom of religion is only one small part of the 1st Amendment. It also speaks to abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

      1. SickofPoliticks says

        I’m aware of what is in the First Amendment. This article was about religion.

  63. introspector7 says

    Seperation of Church and State, Hardly !

  64. Jeffrey Cahoon says

    Keep your IDIOTIC NOSES out of peoples business! The state has no authority!!!! If the churche could swear, they should tell the state to STFU and F*** OFF!!!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Prime example of what passes for “Christianity” in 2016.

  65. Triwing says

    Keep you church/pulpit out OF Politics and I’ll keep out of your Church.

  66. Triwing says

    Which brings up the question of WHY DOESN’T YOUR DOWN VOTE BUTTON WORK?

  67. SEABEETOM says

    All I can say is WAKE UP AMERICA! Vote OUT all Democrats. Better yet. lets just clean out the entire Congress. Term limits, one term for the president and everyone else.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Sure thing, with national debt in the $trillions, we need another Republican war.

  68. Howetexas says

    I would guess that the government demand is based on Muslim employees overstepping their authority. Nothing is being said about radical Clerics spewing hate by the bucket loads to kill all non-Muslims and take over the world. Disgusting liberals and their hate for America!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech, outside the law, is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation.

      Speech that poses an imminent danger of unlawful action, where the speaker has the intention to incite such action and there is the likelihood that this will be the consequence of his or her speech, may be restricted and punished by that law.

  69. Dross Cool says

    YEA MIND YOUR BUSINESS STAY THE HELL OUT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES ,, YOU DONT OWN NOBODY

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is a crime — no matter who speaks it, or where it is spoken.
      Apparently, you think Christians should be free to preach hate?

      1. Dross Cool says

        Christians speak about JESUS CHRIST ,, ALL ABOUT LOVE ,, NO HATE

        1. AKLady says

          Here are examples of non-Islamic terrorism that have occurred in the United States in the last 30 years. All of them are related to the religious extremists, none of which is Muslim. The list is simply a sample, it is not all-inclusive.

          1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012.
          2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009.
          3. Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008.
          4. The murder of Barnett Slepian by James Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998.
          5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.
          6. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994.
          7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994.
          8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010.
          9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984.
          10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.
          11. The Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church Shooting
          12. The Campaign of Terror Against Abortion Doctors
          13. Everything The Ku Klux Klan Has Ever Done
          14. The Massacre At Zion Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C.

          The rampant xenophobia that has taken hold of the Republican Party is an affront to everything this nation stands for. Terrorism spawns from the desperation of humankind, and for that, we are all guilty.

  70. RLK says

    I am all for civil rights for all human beings……..however, this committee has gone way across the line (which is what liberals “always” do). The members of this committee who are guilty of breaking the Constitutional First Amendment laws should be sued for everything they got, everything……then, because this committee could not use common sense, it should be relegated to garbage heap where it belongs, never to be resurrected again……….never!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is not protected by the 1st Amendmwnt. It is a crime in all 50 states.

      Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation. Hate speech includes the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or ‘fighting’ words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. [Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969) ]

      1. RLK says

        Dear AKLady2015, What you consider “Hate Speech” or offensive is of no matter. What matters is “Freedom of Speech” which is quarantined by our Constitutional “First Amendment”……in this case, your response is also offensive to our Constitutional Right of “Freedom of Religion” which is also guaranteed and protect by the US Constitution in accordance with our Bill of Rights included within the “First Amendment”…..”Strike Two”……….never trample on the rights of Americans, protected by our constitution…..one more strike and you….are…..out!

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Suggest you go back and read my post again, this time more slowly.

          Pay close attention to the US. Supreme Court csse citation.
          You have an Internet connection, use it to educate yourself.

          1. RLK says

            Don’t need to, the USSC Case you site can’t possibly have anything to do with Freedom of Religion…..even the ACLU would have fought it tooth and nail as would the ACLJ….what you are attempting to do is site a case w/o any attempt to educate the reader…….not only a stretch but an attempt to miss-lead………on your part….really sad……..but then, you are a liberal, aren’t you. “Strike Three & you’re out!”

  71. Wildeagleone says

    Isn’t it time for the Christians to start law suits against the rouge departments of this anti Christian/ America administration?

    The administration is illegally doing all it can do without Any fight and it is time for the chicken sjitttt Republican party to back up the fight they promised when they were running in 2012

    1. AKLady2015 says

      “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
      George Washington — letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

    2. AKLady2015 says

      “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
      John Adams

      1. Wildeagleone says

        We can see the direction this administration in Washington and can only pray the Congress of the United States will start the recovery of Christianity by communicating with all the impowered lesser governing bodies to express the need for them to get back to the oaths they have taken and the Constitution that has given America 240 years of the freedoms we have lived under by the Grace of God.

        1. AKLady says

          “If you are a Christian and you don’t like the “separation of church and state,” then that means that you are unhappy with the Constitution that you so vehemently defend when it aligns with your beliefs. So let me ask you this: what other parts of the Constitution do you want to change? What else doesn’t align with your beliefs? Because if we start changing it to accommodate you, you can no longer claim that you’re working from the mindset of Constitutionalism and patriotism.” http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/10/27/88-founding-father-quotes-that-will-enrage-the-religious-right/

        2. AKLady says

          John Adams is one of the Founding Fathers.

    3. AKLady2015 says

      “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
      James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

    4. AKLady2015 says

      “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
      Thomas Jefferson — in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

    5. AKLady2015 says

      “Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?”
      John Adams

    6. AKLady2015 says

      “The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?”
      John Adams

    7. AKLady2015 says

      “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.”
      John Adams

    8. AKLady2015 says

      “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
      Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

    9. AKLady2015 says

      “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
      1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

  72. raledbetter says

    Are we finally seeing what subversives can do to your country-WAKE UP AMERICA

  73. RMorrow says

    It’s time to get the Government Boot off the neck of the American people. These asshole Liberal government officials need to go to prison.

    1. AKLady says

      Name calling is childish.
      Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
      Temper, temper …
      You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

      1. RMorrow says

        Name calling??? That is all Hillary Clinton, Elizibeth Warrren does is NAME CALLING. That is all they have. Obama is as guilty as anyone. What do you think homophobia, islamaphobia, and zenophobia are? NAME CALLING. The Liberal Democrats are sewage of our society in every way possible.

        1. AKLady says

          Suggest you learn the difference.
          .
          Phobia
          noun
          an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.
          ————————
          name-caling
          noun
          abusive language or insults.

          1. RMorrow says

            You are pretty funny considering homophobia, islamiphobia, and zenophobia are not even WORDS. These are terms created by Liberals to attack anyone who disagrees with them. The term ‘gay’ does not even mean homosexual. The term ‘gay’ is slang. Which means there is no such thing as ‘gay marriage.’ Again, that is a Liberal term created by the insane Liberals.

            I keep saying Liberals are by far the most stupid people on earth, and people like you keep proving my point.

          2. AKLady says

            You obviously have an Internet connection.
            Use it to educate yourself.
            .
            Self-imposed ignorance is very sad.
            Bigotry in America is also very sad,

          3. RMorrow says

            Is that all you have? It’s always the racists screaming RACISM. With the likes of Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, who make a living on RACISM. Now, Obama is getting in on the RACE CARD with BLACK LIVES MATTERS, Black Panthers and the most Racist organization in the country, the NAACP. Why don’t you go and teach them a lesson on bigotry? Be sure to let us all know how it works out?

  74. Jonathan Graves says

    Eventually it comes down to all the non-Christians writing “666” (man’s number) on their foreheads or hands to keep Christians out.

    1. AKLady says

      The Founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians.

    2. AKLady says

      In a letter to Horatio Spafford in 1814, Jefferson said, “In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them, and to effect this, they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer for their purposes” (George Seldes, The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey Citadel Press, 1983, p. 371).

    3. AKLady says

      Do you claim that America is a Christian nation? — Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Not that long ago, businesses were required to close on Sunday — Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Demands that same-sex marriage be illegal — Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Legally deny service to same-sex couples –Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Access to abortion restricted — Christian Sharia in the U.S..
      Objection to government funded birth control — Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Demands that our laws agree with God’s law — U.S. Sharia.
      No abortion allowed for rape victims — Christian Sharia in the U.S.
      Interracial marriage ban — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

  75. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

    GOD BLESS REAL AMERICA WE ARE COMING TO TAKE AMERICA BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CRUSH OBAMA AND HIS EVIL LIBERAL HATERS OF REAL AMERICA!

    WE ARE A JUDEO/CHRISTIAN NATION ONE NATION UNDER GOD WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT OBAMA WE COMIN!!! HOW DARE YOU OBAMA!!!

    PRESIDENT TRUMP IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. AKLady says

      We the People say no, you will never again deny anyone equality under the law.

      1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

        We the people want TRUMP he is our next https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97a83c0363d97cbd0d375e9219d7c41b4fbd4b3e4c2c628fc41b2d97108f5a58.jpg great leader and President! Crooked evil lying Hillary will be incarcerated!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. AKLady says

          Congress makes the law.
          We the People elect Congress.

        2. AKLady says

          Sorry, you are not putting the bigot, Kim Davis, in the White House.

          1. 32eagle says

            I find that lady to be wonderful for not catering to gay weirdness-just because someone’s gay-they think they have special rights

          2. AKLady says

            Someone who violates their oath of office is “wonderful”?
            Someone who inposes their religion on others is “wonderful”?
            Someone who breaks the law is :wonderful”?
            .
            I expect you also claim to be a Christian.

          3. 32eagle says

            no claim-I just am one -I am just am your basic Christian that sees you have an equality priority and that you believe Christians hate gay people -some realistically do-but the truth is we are all sinners-it is just that homosexuality is an abomination and you can dance and party it up at gay marraiges-but they are cursed by our one and only true God-JEHOVAH

          4. AKLady says

            Flat earth club.
            When does the myth of religion catch up with the reality of science?
            If God created all things, he created homsexuals.
            Homosexuality has been documented in over 1,400 mammalian species. Animals do not have free will, they do not sin, they do not get to choose.
            Guess what, Homo sapien sapien is an animal, the apex preditor. His/her sexuality is wired, just as that of other animals.
            Oh, and by the way, genetic science has already uncovered bioological documentaton for homosexuality.

        3. 32eagle says

          orange looks so proper on her-and the cuffs and chains match the wardrobe

        1. AKLady says

          You made your fortune through bankruptcy.
          How do you plan on bankrupting America?
          .
          What makes you think the Electoral College will elect someone who knows absolutely nothing about government, or how it functions?

    2. AKLady says

      “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
      —John Adams

    3. AKLady says

      “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
      George Washington — letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

    4. AKLady says

      “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
      John Adams

    5. AKLady says

      “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.
      Founding FatherJohn Adams — letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785

      1. rdells says

        Lies came straight from the land of unfettered imbecility. Would not expect to see an American flag in a crowd in a foreign country. Only Der Trumpkopf Wackos are dumb enough to swallow this absurdity. Nobody else is falling off the turnip trucks.

        1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

          You Liberal Jackass low energy fool. What the HELL are you smoking Democrack, Hillary kool aid or Liberal pcp??

          Lies are you! and Crooked Evil lying Hillary!

          1. rdells says

            Did you put a knot on your head when it bounced off the black top? Hopefully you didn’t hurt any functioning parts. If you were lucky you fell directly on your head – no chance of any injury that way.

          2. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            You are a little low energy Crooked evil Hillary supporter! I would crush you like the POS that you are!

          3. rdells says

            Your address and license plate number are? Hillary’s accomplices will meet you there.

          4. rdells says

            Oh, I’m a piece – you are a full sack.

          5. AKLady says

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President — the Constitution does not permit us to do so.
            .
            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.
            Start with the Electoral College.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

          6. AKLady says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          7. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

            Ru okay? Ru a liberal retard? Ru on Democrack with the liberals? You need medical attention…seek help!

            You little Liberal moron!

          8. AKLady says

            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

      2. AKLady says

        You have posted a picture from a foreign country.

    6. AKLady says

      “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
      James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

    7. AKLady says

      “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
      Thomas Jefferson — in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

    8. AKLady says

      1. “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man”- Thomas Jefferson

      2. “The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.” -Thomas Jefferson

      3. “It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet the one is not three, and the three are not one- Thomas Jefferson

      4. “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”- Thomas Jefferson

      5. “There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.”- Thomas Jefferson

      6. “Lighthouses are more useful than churches.”- Ben Franklin.

      7. “The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.”- Ben Franklin

      8. “I looked around for God’s judgments, but saw no signs of them.”- Ben Franklin

      9. “In the affairs of the world, men are saved not by faith, but by the lack of it.”- Ben Franklin

      10. “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it”- John Adams

      11. “The New Testament, they tell us, is founded upon the prophecies of the Old; if so, it must follow the fate of its foundation.’- Thomas Paine

      12. “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”- Thomas Paine

      13. “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”- Thomas Paine

      14. “Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies.”- Thomas Paine

      15. “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”- Thomas Paine

      16. “It is the fable of Jesus Christ, as told in the New Testament, and the wild and visionary doctrine raised thereon, against which I contend. The story, taking it as it is told, is blasphemously obscene.”- Thomas Paine

      17. “Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”- George Washington

      18. “The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession.”- Abraham Lincoln

      19. “It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will be best guarded agst. by an entire abstinence of the Gov’t from interfence in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and protecting each sect agst. trespasses on its legal rights by others.”- James Madison

      20. “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”- James Madison

      1. 32eagle says

        I see lots of quotes-we all have said things that we would love to erase

        1. AKLady says

          Suggest that you study nore history.

    9. rdells says

      Only those dumb enough to eat shit believe this drivel.

    1. rdells says

      You never had it, perverted Ass Hole.

      1. LiberalismaDisease!!! says

        I crushed you already you back again for seconds you liberal cowardly weak low energy Democrackhead fool! You are a Joke! Now go wac dat fist on high and march like we give damn you traitor!

        I walk to you and lol to you!

        1. rdells says

          “sticks and stones…” now wipe that Darth Cheney sneer off your face. Nobody can reason with anyone dumb enough to vote for a billionaire who makes his money through a never-ending series of cons, grifts and self-promotional nothingburgers.

  76. AntiGOP says

    Liberal Socialist communist thug party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Only problem…Iowa is a GOP state…Dah..!!!

    1. AKLady says

      Name calling is childish.
      Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
      Temper, temper …
      You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

      1. AntiGOP says

        I was quoting from below…

  77. AKLady says

    A SMALL SAMPLE OF HOMEGROWN CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS – JUST THE PAST 10 YEARS

    Robert Lewis Dear — 3 dead, 9 injured – Colorado
    Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer – 9 dead, 9 injured – Oregon
    Dylann Storm Roof — 9 dead – S. Carolina
    Elliot Rodger – 6 dead – California
    Aaron Alexis — 12 dead — DC
    John Zawahri – 5 dead – California
    Adam Lanza – 27 dead – Connecticut
    Radcliffe Haughton – 3 dead — Wisconsin
    Andrew Engeldinger – 6 dead — Minnesota
    Wade Michael Page – 6 dead – Wisconsin
    James Holmes – 12 dead – Colorado
    One L. Goh – 7 dead – California
    Scott Dekraai – 8 dead — California
    Jared Lee Loughner – 6 dead – Arizona
    Omar S. Thornton – 8 dead – Connecticut
    Amy Bishop – 3 dead — Alabama
    Jiverly Voong – 13 dead — New York
    Steven Kazmierczak – 5 dead – Illinois
    Robert Hawkins – 8 dead — Nebraska
    Seung-hui Cho – 32 dead – Virginia
    Charles Carl Roberts IV – 5 dead — Pennsylvania
    Jennifer San Marco – 6 dead – California
    Jeffrey Weise – 9 dead — Minnesota
    Doug Williams – 5 dead — Mississippi
    Robert S. Flores – 3 dead — Arizona
    Charles Andrew Williams – 2 dead — California
    Michael McDermott – 7 dead – Massachusetts
    Bryan Uyesugi – 7 dead – Hawaii

  78. AKLady says

    Christian Sharia which has existed in the United States

    Business must close on Sunday.
    Abortion is a crime.
    Birth control is a crime.
    Punish sex outside of marriage.
    Imprison unwed mothers.
    Convict and imprison homosexuals.
    Sterilize unwed mothers against their will.
    Sterilize the mentally ill against their will.
    Sterilize the mentally challenged against their will.
    Prohibit inter-racial marriage.

    There is more, but this should wake up the younger folks who missed
    all that reality.

  79. AntiGOP says

    Looks like a Toilet

  80. AntiGOP says

    When the last person is done…please flush the toilet…you know the one in the picture

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