Clinton’s Technological Ignorance is a Problem

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According to a newly-released email from 2009, incoming Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did “not know how to use a computer to do email” at the time. The email, which originated from State Department official Lewis Lukens, appeared to be in response to Clinton’s chief of staff, Cheryl Mills. Mills had earlier worried that Clinton’s inability to use anything other than her Blackberry might be a “problem.”

In the email, though, Lukens seems unconcerned. He wrote that it “would not take much training to get her up to speed.”

Of course, as The Hill points out, there’s no evidence that Clinton ever did figure out how to use her computer to “do email.” She has said that she never had a computer in her State Department office, apparently content to use her mobile devices as her sole method of electronic communication.

Now, the Clinton staff will probably use this story as a way of reinforcing their claim that the former secretary rarely used email at all. Or they will use it as a way of showing Clinton as being technologically incompetent, as though that’s an excuse for her wanton disregard for informational security. It’s a little like her “wipe the server” comment a few months ago, where no one could quite figure out whether or not she was joking. Increasingly, it looks like she really thought “with a cloth?” was a relevant answer.

While the FBI is in the middle of investigating Clinton to see if she intentionally mishandled classified information, most experts have weighed in to say that an indictment is exceedingly unlikely given the political circumstances. Even if it is revealed that she engaged in wrongdoing, there is some doubt as to whether the Obama administration would actually bring charges against her.

But as a purely political matter, there’s an argument to be made that Clinton’s ignorance is at least as dangerous as her arrogance. It’s 2016. The world has changed dramatically in the last twenty years. It’s no longer okay to accept “I don’t know nothin bout computers” from politicians who want to lead the country. Leading the country, by point of fact, means staying on top of the latest in technological advancements. Especially when so much of the world’s business is done through computers.

We don’t need a president from Silicon Valley by any means, but we need someone who can use a computer to “do email.” We need someone who understands that when you ask them if they wiped a server, “with a cloth?” is not an acceptable answer. We need someone just a little more with it.

608 Comments
  1. Wayne says

    Hillary is the dumbest woman to ever run for the office ! ( I KNOW, I KNOW )
    She is an embarrassment to us all.
    At this point it wouldn’t matter if she vanished !

    1. Progressive Republican says

      Sure if you ignore Bachmann, Fiorina…

      1. Wayne says

        Hillary is so stupid that she is under Federal investigation for over a 1000 unsecured e-mails , some of which put lives in danger and got four killed, then lied publicly about a video being the cause while having told the Saudi’s it was terrorism. She didn’t consider
        the outrageous stupidity of that action. She is so stupid that she never considered her statement while running for president in 2008, that she is ready to answer the 3AM
        call to action. 13 hours of intense firefight that left four dead and she never answered the call. I can go on but the examples of her unmatched stupidity speak for themselves.
        Claiming anyone else can even match Hillary’s gross stupidity over the last 30 years is delusional and exposes the hypocrisy of her supporters !

        1. Progressive Republican says

          I am not a Hillary supporter.

          The only investigation viz Hillary and the FBI is surrounding her e-mail servers.

          She is not currently being investigated.

          The investigation is not criminal.

          Last July (2015), the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community sent what is called a security referral to members of the executive branch. A security referral is essentially a notification that classified information might exist in a location outside of the government’s possession. In this case, Clinton’s private e-mail server.

          The FBI has looked into the security setup for Clinton’s home server and a thumb drive that has copies of Clinton’s work emails. Most details of the investigation have remained secret. It’s not even clear at this point whether the FBI probe is just a preliminary inquiry or if it has evolved into a full-blown investigation.

          To reiterate: The FBI is conducting a general inquiry into the security of Clinton’s private email server. But law enforcement officials have said Clinton herself is not the target of the inquiry, and it is not a full-blown criminal investigation.

          She is as guilty as at least two of her predecessors in the commission of a non-crime.

          The delusion of which you speak is on the right.

          1. Wayne says

            Hillary’s stupidity has also made Bernie viable .
            He would not be where he is without her stupidity !

          2. Progressive Republican says

            When did the FBI make that claim? As of yesterday they said that they’re conducting a general inquiry into the security of Clinton’s private email server.

            But as you said, perception equals reality in peoples’ minds; although that tends to be more the case on the right than the left. That’s why GOP-led states are still going after PP despite the fact that every investigation (twelve or thirteen) has cleared them of the lies that got that whole thing started.

            Part of Bernie’s viability comes from the fact that he is the sole candidate not beholden to billionaires.

          3. Francisco Machado says

            You echo my perception that the Democrats can perceive reality yet not recognize the reality of it. Their reality appears to be wholly ideological. I would expect, identifying yourself as a Republican and indicating Republicans are more prone to recognize the reality of what they perceive, that you would recognize Hillary has broken laws and sequentially made disprovable statements regarding her actions. A large part of Bernie’s viability comes from Hillary and from her history, particularly recent history, and the perceived reality that her words possess no truth value. A significant proportion of Democrats, even her supporters among them, has expressed this. Trump appears to be beholden to only one billionaire, himself. Of course, like Bernie, that is judging by his own claim. If we judge by the falsehoods with which Obama got elected and the false promises that gave the Republicans the Senate and increased representation in the House, it is unwise to rely upon the truthfulness of politicians- as we often discover after the fact, much to our disadvantage.

          4. Progressive Republican says

            Indeed. But at least the Dems will recognize reality even if they too rarely deal with it appropriately.

            That still puts them parsecs past the GOP.

          5. Francisco Machado says

            “Parsecs past” – One parsec would put them outside our solar system. It’s often obvious that they’re been thinking in a vacuum, but it hadn’t occurred to me they were quite that far out. I suspect you’re exaggerating the distance from which they observe reality here on earth. Or how great the delay in perceiving it – I recall that a parsec is more than one light year. You, at least, are fortunate to be a Republican, even if a Progressive. Most of the GOP members of congress are also Progressives – which is a significant part of the cause for the current ongoing political/economic disaster and what has resulted in the popularity of (relatively speaking) political outsiders.

          6. Progressive Republican says

            3.26, in fact.

            Speaking of facts, there are no GOP progressives in Congress.

          7. swann2001 says

            Progressive Republican? Is that a feeble attempt to link Republicans to the Progressive label, which is nothing more than a cover for Liberal Communist? Hillary is a proud Progressive and she is the farthest thing from being a Republican or even a loyal American.

          8. Progressive Republican says

            I have always found it beyond merely difficult to seriously consider the musings of anyone so far to the right that they would call a corporatist like Hillary a Progressive.

          9. Reality Check says

            “Liberal Communist”

            what planet are you from?

          10. kbfallon says

            Stupidity or outrageous arrogance…?

          11. BTeboe says

            I vote for arrogance.

          12. Wayne says

            They go hand in hand !

          13. Deby says

            nope, the SPIN which you are repeating is from the left

          14. Kent2012 says

            progresso rat is in the same league as all of the parasites and coffee shop socialists that are pi$$ed off that the GOP conservatives and adults continue to tell them no when they want to take out their schlongs and play with them in public, and other folk’s schlongs as well…reality checkerinsky is another dipschit that is all torked up due to Real Americans having had their fill of the juveniles and their socialist/communist idols attempting to turn the USA into another cesspool….

          15. Progressive Republican says

            In that my information is not from an extremist disreputable discredited dishonest FRWNJ disinformation propaganda source, then yeah.

          16. Deby says

            ok, name your source then-because it is so one-sided and I have read the exact opposite -that what she has done with that server alone, not including the super classified email exchanges, is ILLEGAL. What source is saying it is not? Her campaign managers?

          17. Progressive Republican says

            The FBI.

          18. BTeboe says

            And you cannot see the forest for the trees. The FBI does not INVESTIGATE inanimate objects. Inanimate objects do not commit crimes, people do. Kind of like that gun thing. I know you think she is innocent but she isn’t. She actually told her staffers to remove the markings and send it to her via unsecure fax. No it isn’t about the emails either. It is the fact that she had a private server that she was conducting official United States business and removing classified from it’s secure location. There is no delusion here. The only deluded person is you. I dare you to get a job where you a required to hold clearance and then try to work from home. Good luck with that.

          19. Kent2012 says

            he might pull that off when he gets a job with the clintoney crime family foundation…

          20. Robin says

            Round and round you go, what you’re saying, nobody knows.

          21. Progressive Republican says

            Comprehension does require an I.Q. with whole digits, so I guess you’re out.

        2. Robin says

          “At this point, what does it matter??!!”, the wicked witch screeched.

    2. kbfallon says

      Actually, she’s slippery than snot on a door knob.

    3. swann2001 says

      Every Democrat who has ever run for President was the most brilliant ever and definitely the smartest person in the world. Every Republican even though they graduated many of them at the top of their class have been questioned as to whether they can walk and chew gum at the same time. But anyone care to remember Jimmy Carter, golly he must be smart he knows alot about nuclear stuff. Sure right! Anyone remember Gerald Ford who really couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Nice guy though right?

      It is standard operating procedure for Democrats to try and question any Republican’s IQ while making their candidate look like natural born geniuses. But now they have to deal with Hillary’s Scoobie Doo Van, her constant restarts to her campaign, and now she is claiming she is so dumb she doesn’t know how to use a computer, how to wipe a hard-drive clean, or how to recognize Top Secret Classified information when she sees it. So she must be a brilliant ignoramus is what they seem to be saying.

      1. ringostarr1 says

        Here is the rest of the story. In 1969 Jimmy Carter saw a UFO and reported his vision to the authorities. After an investigation it was proven that what the future President saw was a planet reflecting the Sunlight. I have this image in my mind of Jimmy’s wife Rosalind standing in the line check out line down at the Winn Dixie, with curlers in her hair, and a cigarette hanging from her lips and telling everyone that the tornado sounded like a freight train. Typical Democrat BS.

    4. ringostarr1 says

      That won’t work. The little Green Men will bring he back.

  2. Paladin says

    Skanks smell… That’s all!!!

  3. freebird4533@yahoo.com says

    she is guilty. anyone as devious as she is can create and send e mails. She is a liar, a traitor and a thief.

    1. albcl108 says

      I accept that my friend’s brother was like really generating cash in his spare time with his computer. . His aunts neighbor has done this for only 10 months and by now repaid the loan on their home and bought a new Car .This is what they are donig …

      https://web.facebook.com/Try-This-Job-Site-936236513133597/?sk=app_190322544333196

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    2. Krampus says

      Don’t forget MURDERING BITCH. She has servers but can’t send emails from a computer? What a joke. If she can’t use a computer how can she run for office? She sure doesn’t have any problems embezzling money through that cover-up foundation of theirs that they use for their hitmen and lawyers to keep bills worthless ass out of jail

      1. pineapple says

        Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Russia now controls 20% of the uranium produced in the U.S. Russia is also providing uranium to Iran. Obama lifted sanctions on Iran and freed up billions of dollars to Iran so they can continue to develop nuclear weapons and long range missiles.

        For more details on this, Google “Hillary uranium sale”, and you will see how she violated U.S. law to complete the sale which enriched the Clinton foundation.

        1. Reality Check says

          “Russia is also providing uranium to Iran”

          moron, Iran just sold TONS to Russia as part of the Iran deal.

    3. pineapple says

      “She is a liar, a traitor and a thief.”

      And those are her good points.

  4. taino21 says

    Ignorance of the Law is no defense. If she can use her cell phone to tell her family that she knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack she can use a computer, and ignorance on how to use a computer is no defense.

    1. MAHB001 says

      For the common folk ignorance of the law is no defense…

      But liberal dolts have put Clinton and 0bama on a pedestal.

      1. AKLady2015 says

        You certainly to have done so.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Troll, you are not making sense today.. Try again.

          1. kbfallon says

            She forgot that she has alzheimers…

        2. Krampus says

          Ak is no lady a major libtard demofag oh hell yes. I see that name all the time and it shows its stupidity more every time. I say the TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL HAVE ANOTHER REVOLUTION TO FIGHT IF THAT MURDERING RAPEING BITCH KILARY GETS INTO OFFICE and those turds in there know what’s going to happen to all of them along with those muzrats and all the illegal mexirats which is 99.9% of them. Go TRUMP 2016. or this country will have to be fought for again

          1. Reality Check says

            wow, the scary intellect of the right.
            God help us.

          2. Progressive Republican says

            Allowed to vote and to breed.

            Brrr…

          3. Croco Dile says

            Nobody can keep track of all the laws. Not even the Feds 🙂
            .

          4. FEDup says

            And you just ignore her lies, use of intimidation, and general nastiness. Not qualities I would want in our President. We already have that and it is ruining our country.

          5. pineapple says

            She might not be eligible to be elected president when everybody gets finished. Look at this, 18 US Code 107: “Concealment, Removal, or Mutilation Generally: Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. … and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”

            …and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office…”

          6. BTeboe says

            And that does not even cover the classified material which USC 18, Sec 793. She was one of 13 classifiers appointed by the Liar in Chief for crying out loud. What does it take for some people to see that she blatantly disregarded the rules for protecting not only our country, but the men and women who are fighting in the shadows. If one of my relatives had gone missing due to HilLIARy’s ‘convenience’ there would be h-ll to pay.

          7. Lyla Cunningham says

            AWESOME post. I hope that you will not mind if I keep this one to post on the odd site here or there. If more people knew of this then perhaps we could dispose of the casual attitude among our ill-informed liberal Hillary fans.

          8. pineapple says

            Send it to whomever you like.

          9. John Williams says

            The problem is, do you think that means anything to an ethically and morally bankrupt left?

          10. BichonLover says

            You know that doesn’t apply to the royal Clintons. They’re above any and all laws. Just ask them…….She needs to hang for her treasonist actions on Benghazi.

          11. pineapple says

            I am reading “13 Hours” by Mitchell Zukoff, and I am appalled at what happened to the Americans because of her.

          12. BichonLover says

            If she is elected, or steals the election thru fraud, with the power she’ll have, our lives will only get worse! She needs to be defeated at all costs for the sake of this Country and all true Americans!

          13. Reality Check says

            we need to get rid of you brainwashed fools of the right, to save the country.

            the GOP are only interested in sending more jobs to China.
            that is why they are the ones who voted 99% for the TPP

          14. mac12sam12 says

            3/4’s of GM is in Mexico and Europe. The demtards in Detroit taxed them out of the country. Who had the final signature on TPP? derp

          15. Reality Check says

            as I have said to the moron many times,
            I am no fan of Obama, especially where the TPP is concerned.

            I just don’t tolerate LYING from you fools of the right

          16. BTeboe says

            Yeah, she’s quite the piece of work wouldn’t you say.

          17. Reality Check says

            No, I ignore the crap posted by right wing HATE media.

            I tend to believe what the real world says.
            Oh, and lets not forget about the 7 GOP lead investigations that ALSO cleared Hillary.

            for some reason you low info cons forget about that and just keep rattling ON.

          18. BTeboe says

            Then why are you in this site? Did you forget where you were supposed to be? Better find that brain. Your butt is feeling lonely.

          19. Reality Check says

            “Then why are you in this site?”

            to stop you fools from destroying America, Duh.

          20. BTeboe says

            Too bad come 2017 you’re going to be living in the conservative world. Obamao blew it.

          21. Reality Check says

            oh please outline for me how Obama blew it.

            here are some facts for you to refute.
            don’t forget your links since these are of public record
            and if you want to say they are inaccurate, link away.

            Before Obama, we were losing 500,000 jobs per month
            After Obama, gaining 200,000 jobs per month

            Before Obama, GDP negative for a year
            After Obama, GDP became positive and now the best in the G-20

            Before Obama, DOW 6500
            After Obama, DOW 16,000

          22. Reality Check says

            Or maybe you would like to argue with Fox News about how the US is the only economy not suffering right now?
            (don’t forget your links)

            “”U.S. Economy ‘Lone Bright Spot,’ as Global Outlook Getting ‘Worse’”

            The World Bank is telling us… the U.S. economy is the only bright spot for global growth.

            http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2015/01/14/us-economy-lone-bright-spot-as-global-outlook-getting-worse/

            Sounds like the United States is lucky Obama chose this path or we would be suffering like Germany that is on the edge of recession.

          23. BTeboe says

            OOOOH I can’t wait for you to have to live in Conservative land for a few years. You’re gonna hate and I’m gonna love it.

          24. Reality Check says

            The last time that happened the global economy imploded.

            didn’t you silly cons predict that in 2012?

          25. Reality Check says

            “her lies, use of intimidation, and general nastiness.”

            so far the only proof we as a nation HAVE, right wing talking points, and a book by a right wing nut job.

            how about some real proof that you can take to court?

          26. Deby says

            count on it libbie

          27. Reality Check says

            see, silly con,
            when the thread is long like this, I have NO idea what you are talking about.
            so YOU have to include parts of MY post, so I have a clue.

            I know it’s complicated for the old farts, but try real hard.

          28. Deby says

            nope if you can’t keep up-quit-please.

          29. Reality Check says

            unfortunately for the right wing fool, you are now on my radar.

            you best keep your lies off the internet.

          30. Deby says

            that a threat? sorry, not afraid of middle-aged left wing nutjobs who live in CA. go peddle your leftist garbage elsewhere-see if you can engage anybody with your repetitive talking points.

          31. Reality Check says

            a promise.

          32. Deby says

            scumbag

          33. ABO says

            You’re being far too charitable with RC, Deby.

          34. mac12sam12 says

            Another one on your radar, please!! Nooo!!!

          35. ABO says

            Pathetic, isn’t he, mac12sam12?

          36. BTeboe says

            or what? What are you going to do?

          37. Reality Check says

            prove you are an idiot every chance I get.

          38. BTeboe says

            Game on butt head.

          39. Reality Check says

            sure, pick a topic you would like to educate me on.

          40. ABO says

            How about reality, you brainless incompetent idiot. In the real world, People are not bound by the rhetoric of democrat taking points, They are capable of thinking for themselves.
            You dare everyone to debate you ‘on any subject’. Then when one does, they invariably leave you sputtering and drooling on your keyboard from which you respond, “stupid tool of the right con can’t function at my superior level of intellect” and you cut and run.
            That sort of delusional behavior proves to all, beyond doubt the massive stupidity of RC.

          41. ABO says

            OOOOH! Deby must be just shaking in her/his boots. All of us here are absolutely terrified of the drooling moron that calls himself “Reality Check” yet has absolutely no concept of reality.

          42. ABO says

            There’s nothing complicated about it, RC. You are simply far too abysmally stupid to deal with even the simplest, most basic subjects along with being entirely inept and functionally illiterate.

          43. Everett Conrad says

            WOW! A liberal asking God for help?

          44. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            I caught it too! Must be more afraid of his own morality after last nights liberal debacle in Iowa.

          45. Reality Check says

            “after last nights liberal debacle in Iowa.”

            are you just STUPID or…..

          46. mac12sam12 says

            It was fun watching granny and Grandpa go at it with their canes!

          47. Reality Check says

            God, you people are low functioning.

            You seem to be unaware that MANY liberals ARE God fearing Christians.
            ( I would not be one of them)

          48. Krampus says

            Well then your a muzrat wanting all the free hand outs you can get. Well here’s one. Hop on your little camel and tread water back to your shithole of a wanna be country

          49. Reality Check says

            retired white guy, moron of the right.

          50. Krampus says

            Retired? Ha what a joke. You muzrats are on your knees so much that your all retarded now aren’t you. Go away as you just a boring piece of camel shit kissing demfags ass for a free lunch

          51. Reality Check says

            well fool, NOW you are on my radar.
            sad for you

          52. mac12sam12 says

            On your radar? Oh no!! Not that!!

          53. Reality Check says

            so I have smacked you down so often you are reduced to stalking?

            try proving something

          54. BTeboe says

            Oh boo hoo. On the radar of reality. Please…

          55. ABO says

            Ya, Krampus, now you’re gonna have to listen to the drooling, demented liberal dope babble incessantly whenever you post.

          56. BTeboe says

            You are not retired, you are retarded. Make sure you use the correct word.

          57. ABO says

            You’ve misspelled ‘retarded’ again RC.

          58. pineapple says

            Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorist organization that the Obama regime refuses to admit is terrorists, is ramping up its efforts to infiltrate the American way of life, making Shariah law be held above the very document and set of laws upon which
            this country was built – the Constitution.

            Investors Business Daily (IBD) reports on a very disturbing effort by a group that is attempting to sell itself as simply a Muslim coalition. The Muslim Brotherhood is working actively towards developing a third political party, “turning Muslims into an Islamic voting bloc.”

            ‘Muslim voters have the potential to be swing voters in 2016,” said Nihad Awad in launching the benign-sounding U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, whose membership reads like a Who’s Who of Brotherhood front groups.

            “We are aiming to bring more participation from the Muslim community.”

            USCMO also aims to elect Islamists in Washington, with the ultimate objective of “institutionalizing policies” favorable to Islamists — that is, Shariah law.

            This development bears careful monitoring in light of the U.S. Brotherhood’s recently exposed goal to wage a
            “civilization jihad” against America that explicitly calls for
            infiltrating the U.S. political system and “destroying (it) from
            within.”

            The subversive plan was spelled out in hundreds of pages of founding archives that the FBI confiscated from a
            Brotherhood leader’s home in the Washington suburbs after 9/11.

            Translated from Arabic, the secret documents listed a number of Brotherhood front organizations — some of which just happen to make up the newly formed USCMO.

            Among the groups involved in this attempted takeover of the American political system and destruction of America as we know it is the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). This group is been directly linked to
            the terrorist group Hamas not just in the way of verbal support, but financial support as well.

            Another group is the Muslim American Society, described as “the overt arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States.” According to Investors, his group praised Osama bin Laden as “a visionary who believed in an Islamic state in Afghanistan.”
            That’s right, the man responsible for the death of so many Americans at the hands of Muslim terrorists described as a ‘visionary’ by a group that wants to take over the American political system.

            The article continues to reveal just how dangerous and disturbing this plan to form a new Islamist party truly is. Oussama
            Jammal, the chair of the new party, led a mosque in Obama’s hometown of Chicago named Bridgeview Mosque. The history of this mosque, and the fact that its leader is attempting to infiltrate the American political system, should send a chill down the spine of Americans everywhere.

            One of that mosque’s leaders was arrested and jailed for funneling millions to Hamas. And one of its most honored guests was bin Laden’s spiritual mentor, the late Palestinian cleric Abdullah Azzam. Some of Azzam’s relatives are Bridgeview members.

            “The walls were covered with Hamas posters and recruiting literature showing masked gunmen brandishing automatic weapons. . . . You could see daggers plunged into Jewish hearts wrapped up in American flags,” said Steve Emerson,
            describing the mosque in his book “American Jihad.” “They even had a library filled with terrorist videos.”

            As Bridgeview’s president, Jammal blasted the FBI for arresting terrorist members and even expressed doubts that al-Qaida was responsible for 9/11.

            Not to worry. As head of the USCMO, he’ll see to it that the council places “premium” importance “on defining the common good based on the Quran and the model of the prophet (Muhammad), and coordinating institutions to implement that common good in American society.

            IBD reports that the group has a 30 point policy platform for “promoting Islam’s core universal principles to benefit American society.” A $3500 yearly payment is required of any Muslim who wants the ability to vote within the group and $1000 if one wants to merely join.

            This is definitely a development that must be watched. The purpose of this planned Muslim political party is certainly not to simply give Muslims a voice, but rather is part of their plan of worldwide domination and dismantling of America and the United States Constitution

          59. Reality Check says

            so much FEAR MONGERING and not one link.

            that always means LIES

          60. John says

            Ahh, yes! Ignorance is bliss,

          61. Reality Check says

            So enlightening me was too hard?

          62. ABO says

            Case in point.

          63. Barney Biggs says

            I am not and American, do not live in the US and not right and she scares me.
            She may think and believe that she is qualified to be POTUS but her record is looking more and more shakey.
            Having said that your whole slate of candidates from the DEM and GOP scare us.
            Time to start over again.
            We do hope this is not indicative of the State of your country as it has such an extreme impact on the rest of us.

          64. MAHB001 says

            Thank you for your perspective. You should know that Reality Check is a paid troll from the left. It is his job to disrupt the conversations and lower it to garbage.

            America is under attack and has been for years. I suspect the same is for all western Countries. It is yet to be seen how well we fair.

          65. Barney Biggs says

            Thanks for the reply. Yes I fear you are right.
            Hard to find any Island of reason and sanity in any country.

          66. MAHB001 says

            I think the enemy is political correctness. PC is taking us all down.

          67. Barney Biggs says

            You may be right but I am more inclined to think the problem is that people confuse emotion and feelings with logic and reason.
            They base their entire lives on what I want, how I feel, whether I like something or not. I keep thinking that some of the best bosses I ever had were people I personally did not like but they sure could do their job and kept the business viable and solvent.

          68. MAHB001 says

            I think that confusion is part of the plan. It is an aftereffect of ideological subversion. A form of brainwashing where the victim can not resolve issues that go against their ideology. They can not consider facts that go against their ideology, and literally dismiss anything that goes against their ideology.

          69. Reality Check says

            “They can not consider facts that go against their ideology, and literally dismiss anything that goes against their ideology.”

            you just described the right wing nut jobs.

          70. MAHB001 says

            No, I just described you!

          71. Reality Check says

            “You should know that Reality Check is a paid troll ”

            MORE PROOF, you are not too bright.

          72. MAHB001 says

            Well come to think of it, socialism is no different than slave labor.

          73. Reality Check says

            BUT the moron of the right thinks we WANT THAT.

          74. MAHB001 says

            Actually what you want is of little consequence.

            You are a useful idiot that will be squashed like a bug after your controllers achieve what they want… Which is communism or slavery of the free people.

            Being that you are unable or unwilling to accept that your arguments and posts are only downward steps towards socialism, you can or will not see the inevitable end result, which is communism and slavery….

          75. BTeboe says

            Who needs proof. Every comment you make reinforces the stupidity.

          76. Reality Check says

            so maybe you can prove me wrong instead of Flapping those Gums all the time?

          77. BTeboe says

            Why, you’re doing such a good job yourself. You don’t my help.

          78. Reality Check says

            word games are not going to help you “win” any debate.

          79. BTeboe says

            I’m not having a debate. You’re too stupid to have a debate with.

          80. BTeboe says

            Squawk squawk and squawk some more. Do you know any other tricks.

          81. ABO says

            He’s a one trick pony, BTeboe, and he’s not even good at that.

          82. Reality Check says

            “But her record is looking more and more shakey.”

            the “record” that you got on Right Wing Blogs?

            cause in the real world, there is no such info.

            so help me out Barney.
            WHAT info are you referring to?

          83. ABO says

            Can’t answer his point so just change the subject. Truly pathetic, as usual.

          84. Reality Check says

            well fool, since Barney the idiot was lying, it’s not really possible to respond.

            is being STUPID your goal in life?

            I see by your history that pretty much all YOU do is post idiocy.

            why is that?
            your IQ that low?

          85. ABO says

            So, you just throw out that “Barney is lying’ and that makes it so. Hard to believe that any human can actually be as pathetically stupid as you constantly prove yourself to be. You aren’t worth the tiny portion of time and effort it takes to respond to your idiotic nonsense so go back to mommy’s basement and to your role as a pathetic, worthless parasite and wank yourself into oblivion, RC.

          86. Reality Check says

            see fool,
            IN THE REAL WORLD the person that makes the unsubstantiated claim has to prove it.

            “You aren’t worth the tiny portion of time and effort it takes to respond”

            for someone not worth it you seem to have made A LOT of time to post to me a dozen time just this morning, so……

            seems like you are the idiot in the conversation.

          87. Reality Check says

            “Having said that your whole slate of candidates from the DEM and GOP scare us”

            and what country would that be?

          88. Barney Biggs says

            I want you to understand that we are certainly no better and perhaps worse than the US.
            I am on the West Coast of Canada.
            We have just elected a Drama Coach with absolutely no experience and his only qualification was his name Trudeau. He is tall, good looking, wears a suit well and understands how to appeal to the emotional visual group.
            Since November he has brought in 25000 syrian refugees with very little preparation and very very little vetting. He is now trying to find places for them to live, medical facilities, schools. He is kicking Canadians out of hotels in Toronto in order to accommodate them.
            This is just one of his decisions which are as emotionally driven as this.
            We were bringing in immigrants and refugees through a proper system but he has bypassed it. Some of the people on the regular immigrant list are sure upset.

          89. Reality Check says

            I see,
            and compared to HIM, you are afraid of both the Dems and GOP?

            Harper Scared many Canadians, he wasn’t called “Bush Lite” for nothing.
            you are very out of place in BC, very liberal.
            you guys flirt with the NDP and liberals all the time.
            even have a green party, no?

            I am dual citizenship US/Canada.

          90. Barney Biggs says

            From your comments it would appear had a strong opinion on Harper.
            While I did not vote for him he did increase social benefits and did some things that we of benefit to everybody. He would not be somebody I would invite to dinner but was certainly not as bad as some suggested. It was as much media hype as anything.

          91. Reality Check says

            “We were bringing in immigrants and refugees through a proper system but he has bypassed it”

            WELL, if you are anything like the right wing here in the US, You are probably LYING.

            lets see a link.

          92. MAHB001 says

            Barney,

            Reality check is the victim of ideological subversion and will not be able to accept your doses of reality as they are against every thing that he has been spoon fed. He is a far left person with an agenda, he will reject anything that goes against his ideology and lower himself to insults when he can not make his point.

            I can see that Reality is rejecting your comments and lowering himself to insults and name calling…

            This is the type of brainwashing the guy is a victim of.

            https://youtu.be/5It1zarINv0

          93. Barney Biggs says

            Ideologs regardless of Right, Left or whatever are usually like that.

            It goes to prove my point that emotions and feeling rule them and it is hilarious to sit back and listen to them for a few minutes.

            I review much information from your Congressional Budget office and it is very enlightening and when confirmation comes in usually is correct.

          94. MAHB001 says

            Thanks again for your comments. It is nice to have your perspective injected into these conversations. .

          95. Barney Biggs says

            You are welcome Great to encounter a Gentleman on the net.
            Something new.

          96. Reality Check says

            I don’t see anything in a search about Trudeau doing anything about refugees.

            and THIS says they are staying on military bases.
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/canada-syrian-refugees_us_56378471e4b0c66bae5d04ba

          97. BTeboe says

            Of course you don’t. Mainly because you don’t read, you wait for your talking points and then you go forth to spew your garbage.

          98. Reality Check says

            so I have bested you so badly you are now reduced to spamming me?

          99. BTeboe says

            You have bested no one. In fact every comment you make is mostly ignored by people on this forum because they know you’re nothing but a troll who cannot understand simple English. Like I said – fantasy land.

          100. Barney Biggs says

            We as a nation are left of center on most issues. Even our Conservative Party is more akin to your Democrats and we go further left from there.
            As a very small country. approx 35 million we are smaller than California and our largest population centre has a larger debt than California $330 billion and climbing. We have great social programs but are having trouble funding them.
            Our health care is good and we can go to the hospital and it does not cost us anything directly but we have high taxes. One problem is that the wait to get into see a specialists is many many months in most cases. I could go on but suffice it to say everything sounds good until the bill comes due.

          101. Reality Check says

            “Even our Conservative Party is more akin to your Democrats ”
            well, THAT proves you are not too well informed.

            your “conservative party” was closer to the GOP and called GOP lite, by the Canadian left.

            since I follow Canada news and have many Canadian relatives and friends, lets stop the bull poo, shall we?

          102. Reality Check says

            ” and our largest population centre has a larger debt than California $330 billion and climbing”

            and what city would that be?

            the national debt is only double that, so…

            http://www.debtclock.ca/

          103. ABO says

            Very well stated, Barney, thank you. You must understand however that RC won’t get a word of it…

          104. Lyla Cunningham says

            Why is it that these conversations start out intelligent and about the facts of the article. Then the conversation degrades into insults. Why is it that people think that this is the way to get your way – it reminds me of a child having a temper tantrum. Kicking, screaming and throwing your fists in a completely useless waste of energy and time because at the end of the tantrum nothing has changed. As it is with these inane comments where the author will write insult after insult. Gee that certainly will fix the situation all right…..NOT.

            I really wish you people would grow the …. up.

          105. Reality Check says

            “Why is it that these conversations start out intelligent and about the facts of the article. ”

            FACTS? there were no ‘facts” in the above article?
            as for “intelligent”, THAT is a matter opinion.

            so far I don’t ONE of your con brethren has posted ONE LINK.

            they just vomit up anything that comes to mind or what they heard last night on Fox.

          106. ABO says

            Don’t mean to interrupt, Lyla but RC is entirely incapable of anything beyond insults and foul language. Your description of his temper tantrums and ridiculous behavior is entirely accurate and I would not expect it to change. Thank you for your comments.

          107. Krampus says

            Wow is that all the better your washed out pea brain can come up with? Your another brainwashed demofag hoping to get a peek at that skanks ass ain’t you. Ya you really do need a reality check don’t you. How does it feel with ovomit bending you over you pathetic excuse wanna be AMERICAN CITIZEN. Well stupid can’t be fixed and I’ll be damned if I want my tax dollars going to support people like you or any other demofag or muzrats and mexirats which 99.9% are illegals sucking on our welfare system. So really go check yourself in for a labotomy. You need one

          108. Reality Check says

            well fool, he only posted a silly picture.

            you think it deserves more prose?

          109. Krampus says

            Your a full blown idiot. He asked if I didn’t like these worthless so called protectors and I answerd him. Have you heard that popping sound yet unreality unchecked ignorance? Or do you even have the brain power to answer that question? I will be surprised if you do as so far you haven’t showed the mentality to pull your old tired lips off ovomits ass. Your a fool plain and simple

          110. Reality Check says

            so everyone smarter than you is on welfare and an illegal?

            you’re a friggin idiot.

            PS. retired white male, with BIG pension

          111. ABO says

            There, there, RC. Tantrum time for the childish, babbling idiot. Someone describes you correctly, in every detail and all you can manage is a childish tantrum. So impressive.

          112. Reality Check says

            you should look up the word “tantrum”.

            you seem to be an idiot.

          113. BTeboe says

            I bet it is scary compared to your level of competence. Kind of like a tomato trying to figure out how to get to the grocery store.

          114. Croco Dile says

            You don’t like your protectors ????

            Why not ?

          115. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

            Probably the most hilarious thing I have seen in quite awhile. The thought of draft dodger Slick Willy and Obama-lama-ding-dong as warriors brings a smile. BTW, Who is the bimbo hanging on to the slickmeister?

          116. Reality Check says

            what about draft dodging Cheney and AWOL, GW Bush?

            the GOP have a LONG history of draft dodging and starting wars

          117. pineapple says

            “what about draft dodging Cheney and AWOL, GW Bush?”

            What? You didn’t know Bill Clinton had a military career?

            Bill and Hillary got about $12 million for their to-be written
            memoirs. Here’s some help for them since their memories are getting old and dim.

            Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of
            registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 326 46 228.

            Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

            Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

            Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

            Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

            Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States
            Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes.

            Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

            Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of
            Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

            Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2) (a) – registrant who has failed to report… remain liable for induction.

            Bill Clinton’s birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1,
            1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

            Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice
            under Public Law 90-40.

            Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a
            fugitive from justice.

            Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Carter.

            Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as
            President of the United States.

            All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public
            laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

            After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing , President Clinton promised that
            those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

            After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.
            military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

            After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

            After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa ( which killed 224 and injured 5, 000)
            Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

            After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, (which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors)
            Clinton promised that those responsible be hunted down and punished.

            Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in
            New York and Washington, DC, who are now dead would be alive today .

            THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8
            Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for
            his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being
            unable to recall anything about past events while under oath.

            Sincerely,
            Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret )

          118. mac12sam12 says

            Bill Clinton, the general in the army of the war on women was a draft dodger, conscientious objector.Hussein the Kenyan never even registered. The left has a LONG history of hypocrisy.

          119. Reality Check says

            I hate to bring it UP, but Bill was mentioned in the post right above.

            is reading too challenging for the fool of the right?

          120. BTeboe says

            No, but it is for you.

          121. Croco Dile says
          122. ABO says

            Gee you don’t suppose that’s Monica do ya?

          123. Krampus says

            Protectors? Hahaha that is so damn funny. 1 is a rapist with a lieing murdering wife and another takes it in backside from a tranny every night and that 1 is trying to do everything but protect anything but muzrats gays in which 1 massacres the other so that makes no sense at all and don’t forget the illegals he wants to bring into the true PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZENS COUNTRY. So NO I can’t stand those jokes and would prefer they drop dead. Now that would be a fantastic day

          124. pineapple says

            “1 is a rapist with a lieing murdering wife…”

            THE CLINTON BODY BAGS
            Food for Thought
            Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the
            Clintons.
            1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack,
            while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
            2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997
            at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after
            she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
            3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton
            at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
            4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have
            died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there
            was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death
            Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
            prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic
            controller commited suicide.
            5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization
            died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
            6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel
            room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
            7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a
            gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen
            Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved
            in several Clinton fund raising events.
            8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his
            car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier
            on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously
            removed from his house.
            9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people
            which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
            10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported
            to have ties to Whitewater..
            11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994,
            in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several
            packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
            Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula
            Jones.
            12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide
            ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide
            at the grave site of his fiancee.
            13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a
            tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
            14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena,
            Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
            15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General.
            Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
            16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.
            She died in a one car accident.
            17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development
            Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
            18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980
            “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment.
            Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
            19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death
            from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan
            Guaranty scandal.
            20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang.
            Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her
            office at the Department of Commerce.
            21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security
            clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
            22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee
            died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on
            Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
            23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
            24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a
            car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
            25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide
            and his report was never released.
            26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
            27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may
            have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial
            report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had
            been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony
            could come before a Grand Jury.
            THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
            28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
            29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
            30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
            31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
            3 2 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
            33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
            34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
            THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
            36 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
            37 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
            38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
            39 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
            40 – Major General William Robertson
            41 – Col. William Densberger
            42 – Col. Robert Kelly
            43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
            44 – Steve Willis
            45 – Robert Williams
            46 – Conway LeBleu
            47 – Todd McKeehan
            Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons!

          125. Robin says

            And, there will be more to follow, unless they are stopped.

          126. Reality Check says

            “I say the TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL HAVE ANOTHER REVOLUTION TO FIGHT IF THAT MURDERING RAPEING BITCH KILARY GETS INTO OFFICE ”

            the rantings of a complete idiot.

          127. BTeboe says

            I’m coming for you first.

      2. taino21 says

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          1. MAHB001 says

            Scum puppet… you been flagged.

      3. ringostarr1 says

        I want to take away Hillary’s pedestal and replace it with a gallows.

    2. yearnd says

      It fact there are several provisions in this law that say that there does not need to be intent, only negligence. That is why she can say that she didn’t mean to be a bad girl all she wants, it really does not make her immune in any way from being responsible for compliance.

      1. Reality Check says

        THIS law?

        what law?

        “Hillary Clinton’s exclusive use of a personal email account to conduct official business as secretary of State caused seems to have stayed within the law, experts say.

        “What she did was not technically illegal,” said Patrice McDermott, a former National Archives staffer and the head of the Open The Government coalition, a transparency group.

        John Wonderlich, the policy director at the Sunlight Foundation, agreed that the practice “seems like it’s not unlawful, which suggests to me that we’re in pretty serious need of a legal reform.”

        http://thehill.com/policy/technology/234487-hillarys-emails-not-technically-illegal

        1. yearnd says

          18 US code section 793 sections e & f

    3. Gary Smith says

      What a phony defense

    4. Reality Check says

      there IS NO LAW silly con.

      “Hillary Clinton’s exclusive use of a personal email account to conduct official business as secretary of State caused seems to have stayed within the law, experts say.

      “What she did was not technically illegal,” said Patrice McDermott, a former National Archives staffer and the head of the Open The Government coalition, a transparency group.
      John Wonderlich, the policy director at the Sunlight Foundation, agreed that the practice “seems like it’s not unlawful, which suggests to me that we’re in pretty serious need of a legal reform.”

      http://thehill.com/policy/technology/234487-hillarys-emails-not-technically-illegal

      see, that could be a problem for your conspiracy theory.

      “technically” it’s not illegal, just like lobbyists bribing politicians.

      1. Krampus says

        Your a complete moronic ass. How do you even fiction whitout kilarys boy plugging you and your boyfriend. Even former IGs have said she has broken many laws and should be indicted and sent to prison for what she has done. Oh you just coincedently missed that information now didn’t you. Wow how ignorant can somebody really be. Can’t stand to see your boss hung out to dry. Would you swing from the GALLOS for those murdering TRAITORS ? Ya your DUMBASS probably would just because they told you to

        1. Reality Check says

          The liberal posts links.

          the silly con Flaps it’s Gums.

          the difference between the two groups.

          Facts versus Hot AIR.

          1. mac12sam12 says

            Socialism is for people too stupid to run their own lives, entitlement whore.

          2. Reality Check says

            so tell me fool, why do you assume that everyone smarter than you is a socialist or on welfare?

          3. ABO says

            “Smarter than you”, You’d be hard pressed you match intellect with an earthworm, RC (Ridiculous Chimp). mac12sam12 makes you look like a mental paramecium.

          4. Reality Check says

            that must be why HE RAN away and why YOU run from any debate.

          5. ABO says

            What on earth would be the point of entering into a debate with a completely myopic, self absorbed, brainless idiot like you???

        2. Reality Check says

          “Can’t stand to see your boss hung out to dry”

          I’m a Bernie supporter, so the sooner she drops out the sooner he WINS.

          1. pineapple says

            Two campaigns:

            1. Bernie “Free shit”
            2. Hillary “Bull shit”.

          2. Robin says

            No big surprise there!

          3. mac12sam12 says

            I hope Bernie gets the nomination. He will be crushed and you will be a sad little entitlement whore. Please tell me I’m not on your radar, PLEASE!!!

          4. Reality Check says

            “Please tell me I’m not on your radar, PLEASE!!!”

            so you are so Dim as to not know that happened a long time ago?

  5. MAHB001 says

    Clinton’s IGNORANCE is a problem….. PERIOD.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      So is yours.
      What exactly is your point?

      1. MAHB001 says

        Figures, you wouldn’t get it.

  6. cal3301 says

    Don’t fall for it. Hillary is not tech dumb. She just plays dumb. Anyone who secretly sets up her own computer system so that they can covertly collect money from other countries without leaving a paper trail, is not tech dumb. Her downfall is that she was caught by accident. The shame is, it didn’t happen sooner, because of all those security leaks that occurred on her watch.

    1. pabritt says

      You are so right on! If she was smart enough to be a Senator and Secretary of State, she damn well knew how to write and receive emails. She is only smart enough to be dangerous in any official office. This is almost laughable if it were not so serious.

      1. cal3301 says

        It was said that she was smart in school. I can’t believe people would fall for her coyness now.

  7. danfrench says

    So what is it now Hillary? I am just a dumb woman so you can not blame me for the top secret and S.A.P.
    e-mails on my illegal server at home.
    Dan French

    1. Deby says

      Correct! and may I add, “so please elect moi for your next POS dumbocratic prez so I can continue to lie deceive and continue on my journey to communism as the new reality in the US”. A vote for killary is a vote for Alinsky comrades!

      1. Reality Check says

        you cons need to get over this cold war era “commie” shit.

        Considering communism has been a dismal failure with shortages of EVERYTHING, and the majority of commie countries have gone Capitalist (Russia, China)

        AND no democratic country has ever gone communist, it think you old farts need to rework your stupid talking points?

        1. BTeboe says

          What happened in Cuba? How about Venezuela? Do you even know what communism is? No, you don’t. You’ve never lived anywhere to see what communism and socialism do to a society. These two ideologies and economic systems use up all the money generated by capitalism and then collapse. Leave the US if you don’t like our founding documents.

          1. Reality Check says

            “You’ve never lived anywhere to see what communism and socialism do to a society.’

            I do know, which is WHY anyone thinking we are going that way, ARE MORONS.

      2. danfrench says

        Thanks Deby, you might also enjoy this.
        Hillary Rodham wrote a 92-page senior thesis for Wellesley College titled “There Is … The subject was famed radical community organizer Saul Alinsky.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis

        1. Deby says

          totally believable, plus years ago, although I personally haven’t seen it-she was photographed in her room at college (Harvard I believe) and she was standing in front of a poster of Saul Alinsky. Boom-she is a communist, same as obozo, and both are or have been funded by George Soros-her campaign as recently as this week. people are totally ignoring her communist roots much as they have obozo’s. Disheartening to say the least! so the dumbocrats are putting up a communist v an old socialist who wants to tax the “wealthy 1%” at a 90% rate. Outfrickingrageous!!!!

          1. danfrench says

            I am talking to a liberal now Name Reality Check who actually wants to cut our military to half of what it is today. I try to read their post and they are so delusional it is hard at times to make sense of their post.
            Keep up the good work and continue to stay in contact.
            Dan French

          2. Deby says

            dan, Reality Check is a complete moronic troll who likes to belittle all posts he as a rabid liberal disagrees with and he is tenacious to say the least. beware of conversing with him-he doesn’t give up-but when he starts name-calling-you won!

          3. Reality Check says

            so tell me smart guy , why our country needs to spend more than the next 7 countries COMBINED including Russia and China?

            so we can make the rich richer?

            what security problems are going to occur if we didn’t have 1000 bases all over the planet?

          4. danfrench says

            You hit the nail on the head.
            dan French

          5. Reality Check says

            so tell me Dan,
            why sign your name to everything that already has your name?

          6. danfrench says

            Because I want there to be no doubt in any ones mind who I am.
            Dan French

          7. Reality Check says

            well I know that from the first time I read it.

            Oh, for conservatives.
            they need repetition.

          8. danfrench says

            no, all I need and deal with are facts.
            Dan French

          9. Reality Check says

            Oh good, and so do I.
            I insist actually.

            except Fixthisnation is hardly a “source” one can trust.

          10. danfrench says

            Then you should stop talking about things you know nothing about.
            Dan French

          11. Reality Check says

            so tell me , why our country need to spend more than the next 7 countries COMBINED including Russia and China?

            so we can make the rich richer?

            what security problems are going to occur if we didn’t have 1000 bases all over the planet?

          12. danfrench says

            foolish uniformed babble
            Dan French

          13. Reality Check says

            that the con is afraid to answer.
            show me some intellect Dan.

          14. danfrench says

            Ok I will respond so even you will be able to understand. No U.S. troops in So. korea N korea with a 5.2 million man military would immediately invade and slaughter the south Koreans.
            WWI and WWII The US military stopped the mass slaughter by Germany and in WWII by Germany and the axis. I will bet if you were in one of Hitler’s concentration camps the first thing you would have said to the first US soldier is “The US should cut their military in half” and if you think Russia or China would be nice just because they do business with us how foolish you are. On and on
            Stop making foolish statements if you want to have an intelligent conversation.
            Dan French

          15. Reality Check says

            “No U.S. troops in So. korea N korea with a 5.2 million man military would immediately invade ”

            so since they only have a 1,000,000 man military, I think you being better informed would help you arguments.

            http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm

            sure they have a “reserve” of starving humans.

            so that is ONE situation, what about the other 70 countries?

            “Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined.

            By my calculation, maintaining bases and troops overseas cost $85 to $100 billion in fiscal year 2014; the total with bases and troops in warzones is $160 to $200 billion.

            http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321#ixzz3z9eoibJz

            WHO is China’s biggest market?

            you are Dim if you think they want to jeopardize that.
            their economy would implode in a short time.
            (oh and we would just keep the TRILLIONS we owe them)

            a global conflict no longer is profitable.

          16. danfrench says

            700,000 active frontline personnel,
            4.2 Million active reserve personnel Add the two and you will get 5.2 million. If you really want to see how mis-informed you are please go to
            http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=north-korea
            China is now constructing military islands in the south china sea. Russia has already invaded the Crimea and is attacking the Ukraine

            http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-nato-relations-2015-amid-russian-aggression-largest-military-exercise-more-2146563

            Russian aggression prompts Baltic nations to seek NATO force
            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/14/russia-aggression-prompts-estonia-latvia-lithuania/?page=all

            Russia’s ‘saber-rattling’ threat to stability
            https://www.fixthisnation.com/conservative-breaking-news/clintons-technological-ignorance-is-a-problem/#comment-2494866262

            There are many more and this is just fro 2010–2015
            You need to open your eyes.
            Dan French

          17. Reality Check says

            “US Missile Technology Plant Moved To China”

            http://rense.com/general35/sdfg.htm

            it’s things like this, that tell me it’s ALL a Game to make money.

            I was listening to a Right wing guy today who was against the TPP and HE mentioned that we can’t build a cruise missile any more without chips made in China.

            the global economy is so interconnected that sanctions work, you NEED to be part of the global machine for an economy that works.
            Evidenced by Iran.

            they caved basically because things were getting bad there, since they couldn’t sell oil and restriction on imports.

          18. danfrench says

            I you want to stop our companies from moving overseas it is very easy. We have the highest corporate among major economies. cut the taxes. Our EPA is out of control. employee taxes ss, medicare ect. are killing American companies. Here is a fact I owned small but very successful companies for 30 years. If I was given a choice to keep the net profits from my companies or trade them for all the money I was forced to pay the government– Federal–State–county and city. It is not even close, The government makes far more than the business owner. and you have a question why our companies are moving overseas?
            Dan French

          19. Reality Check says

            Well Dan, in case you forgot, we were talking about the fact we don’t need to spend so much on the military.
            now you jump to our factories going overseas?

            well, unions and regulations do not seem to be a problem in EU.
            German is over 50% union labor and everyone is happy.

            if we want a society with people who have jobs, we need to get with the same program.
            not necessarily union, but tariff based.
            well VAT actually since tariffs are illegal due to all the trade deals we are in.

            forbes says THOSE VAT countries are also the best place to do business.
            shall I link you to that?

          20. danfrench says

            once again you are wrong this is from your post “US Missile Technology Plant Moved To China” That was you not me.
            I am with you on tax reform as is all the Republicans candidates. I like the VAT but that makes it too easy for the federal government to raise taxes at will. I am for a flat tax. But no matter which way you go we need major tax reform.
            Dan french

          21. Reality Check says

            “once again you are wrong this is from your post “US Missile Technology Plant Moved To China” That was you not me. ”

            What?
            I know I posted that.
            the point is we are connected and the military/national security apparatus seems unconcerned that we can conduct a war without parts from China.

          22. danfrench says

            I took it as you were say even our missile tech companies moving overseas why.
            Dan French

          23. Reality Check says

            I assume they are moving to make more money.
            I am also assuming the state department and national security folks, don’t care either.
            meaning, China is no threat.

          24. danfrench says

            You really think china is no threat??
            Dan French

          25. Reality Check says

            I think China is no threat to the US, militarily.
            they are not going to invade.

            they may take over economically, but our military is not going to prevent that.

          26. Reality Check says

            “Our EPA is out of control”

            so tell me some example of how the EPA has made you life a nightmare.

          27. danfrench says

            From my own experience. I owned Auto body shop. In the late 80s the EPA made a new ruling. We had to keep a file of amount of paint materials used on every car. Very quickly we had to rent a storage locker just to store the volume of information plus the labor cost to keep these records available for spot inspections. I sold my Auto body company in 1998, after all the man hours and other cost guess how many times the EPA inspected these files. NEVER all that money and time was flushed down the toilet.
            Dan French

          28. Reality Check says

            ah gee, so record keeping is not something every business does?

            If you are painting that many cars then business is good and this is really not that burdensome.

            “guess how many times the EPA inspected these files.”

            what is the name of the ‘rule”. there had to be a “reason”
            lets read it.

            I am from the film industry, we kept all kinds of records to conform to societies needs.
            and I am sure it was EPA that made us dispose of film correctly.
            AND a bug about storing nitrate film.
            explodes you know.

            same thing goes on in those EU countries I mentioned.
            they seem fine.

            I will be the first to admit that bureaucratic nightmares DO exist.
            been threw many.
            weeding them out would be nice.

            wholesale getting rid of the EPA is just silly based on the crap big corporations have tried to pull over the decades.

          29. danfrench says

            Please reread my post I did not say get rid of them I said they were out of control. Big difference. If you are going quote me please quote me accurately.
            Dan French

          30. Reality Check says

            True, you did not say those words.
            actually, I did “quote” you, with “quotes”.

            in the post above I was making an assumption based on contact with conservatives on this site.

          31. Reality Check says

            “employee taxes ss, medicare ect. are killing American companies.”

            oh so you want to stop SS cause you need that 6%?

            GOOD companies look after their employees, not complain about giving to their retirement.
            and get them healthcare, a 401K even.

            That is how a “good” society works.
            Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Holland, France, England, all work fine this way.

            You know, Bernie’s Medicare for all” will save you big bucks on healthcare and raise that profit margin.

          32. danfrench says

            Why is it my responsibility to provide retirement, medical care, ss. and all the rest for employees? Perhaps the American people should take responsibility for their own lives. Employers and the government should not have to babysit American people. Stand up and be a man. I did. I took responsibility for me and my family and I instilled that pride and personal honor in my childern. Your own personal pride and honor is something only you can sell or give away. Begging the government or an employer to pay for your personal responsibilities is selling out cheap.
            Dan French

          33. Reality Check says

            “Why is it my responsibility to provide retirement, medical care, ss. and all the rest for employees?”

            well it is not your responsibility, it something companies DO in the developed world.
            as your company grows and “profits”, you “give back” to the workers that DID that for YOU.

            very common in America.

            you would be one of the companies people don’t like to work for.
            is scrooge your middle name?

          34. danfrench says

            If I did it should be my choice. When the government takes money from one person or business to give to another person under the threat of imprisonment, and or confiscation of their money and property that is extortion. No matter how you put it, no matter what law you pass. Extortion is the perfect word to use when the government steals from one person to give to another.
            Simple Definition of extort
            : to get (something, such as money) from a person by the use of force or threats
            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/extort
            Perfect
            Dan French

          35. Reality Check says

            “Extortion is the perfect word to use when the government steals from one person to give to another. ”

            scrooge is you middle name isn’t it.

          36. Reality Check says

            the constitution allows the gov to set these rules and regs to create a better society.(well being)

            if you chose to do business in America, you have to participate in the society with societies rules.

            you consider it “extortion” because you are greedy.(conservative)

          37. Reality Check says

            PS, I have always been a self employed contractor who pays the full SS, medicare etc.

            I haven’t been a deducted employee since the mid 80’s.

          38. danfrench says

            I employed an average 30 people for 30 years. Do you understand what that means? If you had no employees It would take you about 450 years to pay what I paid in 30 years.
            Dan French

          39. Reality Check says

            Gee Dan, were you not making a profit all those years?
            paying people benefits is just PART of doing business.

            if you want less regulation and benefits to pay, move to Somalia.
            I hear the regs are very lite there.

            BUT if you like to live a country with a decent standard of living, pay them a decent wage and benefits.

            you act like you are the only employer do that.

          40. Reality Check says

            “China is now constructing military islands in the south china sea. Russia has already invaded the Crimea and is attacking the Ukraine”

            AND our huge military budget could do nothing about it.

            invading the US or EU is a completely different scenario.
            them spreading here and there are small strategic adjustments.

            Crimea was a strategic peninsula.

            China is making a land grab where it can.

            nothing our military has ANY business getting involved in.
            none of those things affect business.

            a world war would.

          41. danfrench says

            If you feel it is OK for China and Russia to do these things with no reprisal for the U.S. Then there is no reason to try and show you the foolishness of your stand.
            You might remember Chamberland.
            Dan french

          42. Reality Check says

            WHY are we the worlds policeman?

            both those items pose no threat to US security.
            nor do they give Russia or China an “advantage”

            most of Crimea thought it was a good idea,so..

            you don’t think the US would annex a strategic peninsula?

          43. danfrench says

            Can you name a country we have annex for any reason in the 20th century?
            Dan French

          44. Reality Check says

            seems we did most of our annexing in the late 1800’s.
            does that make it any less different?Crimea is at least attacked to Russia AND full of Russians.

            Guam, I don’t think was full of Americans, till we put them there.

          45. Reality Check says

            “You might remember Chamberland.”

            the world of 1935 is not the world of 2016.
            that is just silliness.

            “Then there is no reason to try and show you the foolishness of your stand.”

            and that is just a cop out, went defeated.

          46. danfrench says

            I am sorry you did not understand my post. Now as in 1935 you can not negotiate with these mad men. Any aggression by these animals not punished only encourages them to do more. If you think I am wrong look at syria, Iran Russia and china. Look at the Somali Pirates. and I will say it again your statements are foolish. Did I cop out then?
            Dan French

          47. Reality Check says

            Russia and China are no threat to the US or EU.

            if you have no customers, your “empire” will quickly come apart.

            In the past, countries could exist autonomously.
            that is no longer true. the planet is so trade interlocked, when the EU goes into recession, so does the rest of the world.
            when the US goes into recession, so does the rest of the world.

            intertwined.

            Somali Pirates?
            like they have affected the world much?
            I haven’t heard of a kidnapping at sea for a long time now.

            that is foolish.

          48. Reality Check says

            Syria?
            what has Syria done? annexed Israel?
            (not lately)
            I lived in Damascus in the 70’s (oil)

          49. Reality Check says

            “Want to Cut Government Waste? Find the $8.5 Trillion the Pentagon Can’t Account For”
            It amounts to $8.5 trillion in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon since 1996 that has never been accounted for. (The year 1996 was the first that the Pentagon should have been audited under a law requiring audits of all government departments. Oh, and by the way, the Pentagon is the only federal agency that has not complied with this law.)

            http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/want-cut-government-waste-8-5-trillion-pentagon-142321339.html

            the national debt seem to be irrelevant to some in congress.

          50. danfrench says

            OK with me Audit the pentagon Make the military accounts accountable Find where the money went If fraud in involved put the criminals in Jail. If it was incompetence fire the people responsible
            Dan French

          51. Reality Check says

            it’s a good old boy club of generals and arms makers.

            AND lets not forget the paranoid older types that are afraid of commies and other imaginary evils (Muslims)

            Bernie will clean it up.
            maybe get Elizabeth Warren on it.

          52. danfrench says

            wait a minute communist and muslims threats are imaginary?
            If that is truly you position we are finished. You are too stupid to waste my time on. At times I was enjoying this conversation. Even tho many of your statements were childish and foolish. But this statement pass uninformed delusional to just plain old stupidity.
            Dan French

          53. Reality Check says

            “You are too stupid to waste my time on. ”

            that seems to be your standard response to anyone with a different idea than you.

            SO tell me where communism has been successful?
            I believe I asked that question yesterday and you bailed on an answer.

            you older cons seem stuck in the 50’s cold war.

            AND since the two major commie countries are now practicing capitalism and the others failing miserably, it seems you old fart cons are just living in an old fantasy world.

            LOVE to hear some examples of communism happening in America.

          54. Reality Check says

            A for Muslims, yet another SILLY thing you cons are afraid of.

            WHY?
            1.6 BILLION of them live in peace each day.
            did they not read the same Koran?

            how about the 10 million we have here?

            there been any beheading’s?

            last year there were more than 355 mass shootings in America killing over 400.
            353 of them by NON Muslims.
            TWO mass shootings by a Muslim last year killing 19.

            Seems like the rational human would be afraid of the group who committed 150 times the mass shootings of the Muslim.

            now the average con starts to tell me about how they are so evil in other countries, beat their wives, have sex with young girls.

            and I say, I live in America, not tribal areas of Pakistan

  8. AKLady2015 says

    Garbage piked higer and deeper.
    This is a new low for the right-wing.

    1. danfrench says

      Wanting criminals to be arrested is a new low?
      Dan French

      1. AKLady2015 says

        Ignorance of the law is not a defense.
        One is not a criminal until tried and found guilty.

        1. danfrench says

          Top Secrets and S.A.P. documents on you private illegal server at home is a criminal act. When you commit a criminal act you are a criminal convicted or not.
          You need to read the law.
          Dan French

          1. AKLady2015 says

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            ,
            The conputer was not illegal.
            The fact that she stored classidied documens is an issue.
            The woman has not yet been charged.

          2. danfrench says

            The computer was not the problem it was the illegal server and the thousands of classified, top secret and SAP documents sent to and stored on it.Charged or not are you saying that even tho she admitted breaking federal law (which are felonies) she is not a criminal just because Obama and the DOJ are protecting her and refusing to charge her?
            Dan French

          3. Reality Check says

            “Hillary’s emails ‘not technically illegal'”
            “Hillary Clinton’s exclusive use of a personal email account to conduct official business as secretary of State caused seems to have stayed within the law, experts say.

            “What she did was not technically illegal,” said Patrice McDermott, a former National Archives staffer and the head of the Open The Government coalition, a transparency group.
            John Wonderlich, the policy director at the Sunlight Foundation, agreed that the practice “seems like it’s not unlawful, which suggests to me that we’re in pretty serious need of a legal reform.”

            http://thehill.com/policy/technology/234487-hillarys-emails-not-technically-illegal

            see, that could be a problem for your conspiracy theory.

            “technically” it’s not illegal, just like lobbyists bribing politicians.

          4. Deby says

            sure, and it depends on what your definition of “is” is-right? So the public should believe killary’s spin junkies in the media that she is ONCE AGAIN, the object of a vast right-wing conspiracy to take her down-and it has NOTHING to do with the fact that as Sec of State, she was directly involved in the cover-up of the murder of 4 Americans. It starts at the top with obozo, so the media machine that is bought and paid for HAS to downplay any wrongdoing by the administration-even to ignoring the fact that killary was using an ILLEGAL server to send and receive classified, top secret and now 22 emails labeled SAP. These are real facts you jackass-so try pulling your head out of your ass for once and stop ridiculing anyone who disagrees with you-silly lib.

          5. Reality Check says

            well fool of the right wing propaganda,
            as I linked to above SAYS, having a personal server is NOT ILLEGAL, so lets see your link proving IT IS.

          6. BTeboe says

            Idiot.

          7. BTeboe says

            Why don’t you try googling USC 18, Sec 793. You can have all the servers you want. The problem is you cannot process or hold classified material especially TS/SCI/SAP. The other problem is, you might own the server, but you don’t own the official govt documents. And YOU don’t get to DECIDE what you’re going to keep and what you’re going to delete.

          8. Reality Check says

            The liberal posts links.

            the cons Flaps it’s Gums.

            the difference between the two groups.

            Facts versus Hot AIR.

          9. BTeboe says

            Thank you for finally realizing how stupid you are.

          10. BTeboe says

            He can’t because he’s lost his head somewhere in the dirt he keeps it buried in. When he does find his head he will promptly insert it into his ass.

          11. Reality Check says

            wow, the intellectual posts of the right wing on display.

          12. BTeboe says

            And thank you again for realizing the intellectual right wing on display. Much better than being an ostrich or a parrot.

          13. BTeboe says

            So what happened with Patraeus. He had classified documents sitting in a desk drawer in his home which was guarded 24/7. The fact that he showed them to Broadwell, who also had a TS clearance, was still no excuse. She didn’t have a need to know.
            Now let’s look at Clinton’s server. All that classified was sitting out there and most likely hacked by foreign intelligence. I would even go so far as to say she was using that server as a ‘dead drop’ (if you don’t know what that is, look it up). Here’s a scenario for you – if you pay the Clinton foundation $X,through the money laundering scheme we set up in Canada- I have some intel you need, you can find it here or I can forward it to you.
            The classified sitting on that server was a big time no no. Every person who saw some of those emails needs to be debriefed and sign non-disclosure agreements. It is the responsibility and obligation of anyone who knows of a security breach to report that to their appropriate security manager. There’s a lot of people in the Dept of State who are going to need clean underwear. Especially her little Pagliano helper. He’s probably trying to find some country that doesn’t honor extraditions.

          14. Reality Check says

            you cons seem to be good at believing ANYTHING the right tells you.

            The FBI for some reason does not seem to be SO convinced as YOU.

            Patraeus was in trouble and charged in no time.

          15. BTeboe says

            Then WHY is the FBI still investigating if it’s just an open and shut case? And you don’t think having highly classified material sitting on your home server is a problem? You’re just showing the world how utterly stupid you are. When the FBI has over 100 agents working on a case I can guarantee you that you are in trouble. You can educate ignorant, but you cannot fix stupid. You know nothing of the classified world and believe any thing you are told. And if you vote for Sanders you’re a communist. What Sanders is hawking is 90% hike in taxes and a nanny state govt to take care of your stupidness from cradle to grave. He will get nowhere in this country.

          16. Reality Check says

            “What Sanders is hawking is 90% hike in taxes”

            and NO healthcare payments to make.

          17. Reality Check says

            “He will get nowhere in this country.”

            Is that why he is doing so well in Iowa? and will TAKE New Hampshire?

          18. BTeboe says

            What you think paying 90% of your income to the govt is a good thing don’t you. Well there are a lot of people in this country that would disagree with your stupidity.

          19. danfrench says

            I am send you this article from NPR the most liberal network in America. Please note this article is over a year old. They state the laws that Hillary has broken. At the time the FBI did not have the server and we only had Hillary’s word what was on the server. Now we have over a thousand classified, top secret and SAP which is above top secret. 22 being so top secret the White House will not even release redacted versions. There is no”Technically” to it. She is guilty of 1300 felonies, remember each classified ect. document is a separate felony.

            http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/02/396823014/fact-check-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law
            Dan French

          20. Reality Check says

            “I am send you this article from NPR the most liberal network in America”

            well Dan, THAT just proves you are not well informed.

            NPR gets HUGE corporate subsidies.

          21. danfrench says

            If you read my post carefully you will find I said it was written before any emails were recovered from hillary’s private Server. Are you trying to make the point that Hillary had “no” top secret documents on her private unsecure server or are you saying having top secrets documents on your private unsecure server is legal?
            Dan French

          22. Reality Check says

            “Now we have over a thousand classified, top secret and SAP which is above top secret.”

            but THAT was not worth linking me to?

            what about the ones that were NOT top secret when they were sent?

          23. danfrench says

            If you send classified ect info. marked, unmarked even before being classified as classified, top secret or SAP each document it is a felony. Read the law.
            Dan French

          24. Reality Check says

            “because Obama and the DOJ are protecting her and refusing to charge her?”

            Oh, so there are NO conservatives in the DOJ who are DONE with this president and blow the whistle?
            you cons pretend that you conservatives are so gung ho and patriotic.
            but not enough to stand up and say HILLARY IS GUILTY?

            hey the book rights alone would set him up for life,
            AND the right wing would give him a job at the Heritage foundation, like they do to all good soldiers of the right wing.

            nope?

            all afraid of Obama?

            you are laughable.
            that fact that your brethren are shallow enough to also believe it is SCARY.

          25. danfrench says

            If you want to try and say Hillard did not break the law guess I will have to accept the fact that you also will do anything to protect Hillary. Remember General Petraeus punished for having just classified info. in his desk at his guarded home. Hillary put Top secrets and SAP (Special access program) on a unprotected server.
            To think her unprotected server was not hacked by foreign countries is really naive of you. If you are OK with what is going on D.C. in the obama administration you should not be calling anyone shallow. IRS, Fast and Furious, Affordable care act, Benghazi ect ect. If this the government you want for you family I think you need to vote for Hillary or Bernie. I will add one more thing about the socialist Bernie. Remember what Karl Marx’s ( the father of socialism) said quote “main point is that socialism is the first stage of communism.” unquote
            Feel The Burn? If not your children will.
            Dan French

          26. Reality Check says

            “IRS, Fast and Furious”

            well Dan,
            those two items PROVE you are the ignorant brainwashed con like all the rest.

            “Darrell Issa: No evidence White House involved in ‘Fast and Furious’”

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/darrell-issa-no-evidence-white-house-involved-in-fast-and-furious/2012/06/24/gJQAhs1kzV_blog.html

          27. danfrench says

            Before you start calling someone ignorant brainwashed you need to know what you are talking about. I said they were scandals in the Obama administration. Please show where I said the white house was involved in the actual illegal acts.
            The white was involved in the coverup.
            Dan French

          28. Reality Check says

            “Inquiry Into I.R.S. Lapses Shows No Links to White House”

            http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/us/house-irs-inquiry-shows-no-connections-to-white-house.html?_r=0

            I await you links of rebuttal.

          29. danfrench says

            Did I say the White house was involved in the IRS criminal acts? Answer is no.
            Did the Obama DOJ prosecute the criminals involved in the IRS targeting conservative groups? Answer NO
            Dan French

          30. Reality Check says

            “Remember what Karl Marx’s ( the father of socialism) said quote “main point is that socialism is the first stage of communism.” unquote”

            well since EU has been practicing Democratic Socialism for DECADES, when exactly is this going to happen?

          31. danfrench says

            So you want America to become like Europe? Remember socialism to communism does not come overnight. A flood started with one the first drop of rain. If you think American or any socialist will be satisfied with what is in Europe how mistaken you are. They are patient. They know people who are willing to bite on Bernie and Hillary message of “Elect us and we will give you free stuff” Will in the future be willing to accept the (when it finally comes) the finally step to communism.
            Look at history if you think I am wrong. I am going to make it easy for you. Compare what the democratic party of today with what Hitler was saying in the 20s and 30. Race against race (Arians against Jews) class envy with Bernie it is not fair they have so much and you have so little. Gun control right out of Hitler’s playbook Ect.
            Tell me it is not true.
            Dan French

          32. Reality Check says

            “Remember socialism to communism does not come overnight.”
            Oh, really?

            so Russia was Socialist for a few decades before turning commie?
            gees, get a grip on reality.

          33. danfrench says

            Karl Marx’s ( the father of socialism) quote “main point is that socialism is the first stage of communism.” unquote
            I have a grip and recognize Socialist for what they really are. Perhaps it is you who needs to face reality
            Dan French

          34. Reality Check says

            Well Dan, YOU are the one who said:
            “Remember socialism to communism does not come overnight.”

            NOW you seem to be tap dancing away from that.
            wonder why?

            You quote Karl Marx like he was a creator of successful societies.

            the only societies created under Karl Marx writings, seem to have gone very wrong.

          35. danfrench says

            Yes, I said that and it is my opinion, that it is true. What tap dance? I will say it again in a different way.Socialism is a boil on the butt of man. Is that tap dancing? Karl Marx was a socialist and socialist is a socialist, there is no difference. They want you to live under Socialism but they will live above it. I am completely capable of running my own life. I do not need the government to run it for me. I worked hard and paid for my family’s medical care. I did not look to the government to steal some else’s money and give it to me. I paid for my and my family’s college education once again I did not hold out my hand and beg “please Mr. government pay for our education.” The real defination of people willing to accept socialism are those with no personal pride or honor. Did I tap dance around about that? Now you go on and depend on the government to give “free things” and every time you accept it remember this is the price of your pride and honor. Socialist sell out cheap.
            Dan French

          36. Reality Check says

            “Will in the future be willing to accept the (when it finally comes) the finally step to communism. ”

            so much for not posting statements that are complete stupidity.’

            WHAT communist country is the “shining light on the Hill” that is drawing Americans to that?

            you guys have to be OUT TO LUNCH. (no brains)

          37. danfrench says

            Yet you give no facts to support your position as I do.You know when I always know I have won a debate with a liberal and they know it? you present no facts and start calling me names.
            Dan French

          38. Reality Check says

            Dude, what “proof” have you submitted to back up your ASSUMPTION that the US population will accept communism?
            let alone back up your premise that people only vote for Democrats to get free stuff.
            Trust me when I say, there are many differences, climate change being one of them.

            Oh, and you seem to have glossed right over the BIG question I asked.

            “WHAT communist country is the “shining light on the Hill” that is drawing Americans to that?”

          39. danfrench says

            That is not a fact, it was only my opinion. Have you listened to Bernie, Hillary? other Democrats more free food, free housing, free medical, free college, free cell phone free day care. need I go on? I do not know the answer what communist country are drawing Americans, Is the reason for good Jobs?

          40. Reality Check says

            Still can’t come up with that “shining light on the Hill” that is drawing Americans to communism?

          41. danfrench says

            No
            Dan French

          42. Reality Check says

            Social Security is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicare is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicaid is Democratic Socialism

            Post Office are Democratic Socialism. (and in the Constitution)

            The US highway system is Democratic Socialism (and in the Constitution)

            our electric grid is Democratic Socialism

            Public Utilities are Democratic Socialism

            shall I continue?

          43. danfrench says

            I am glad you brought this up. Social security , Medicare, I was smart enough to be against them all my life. My Proof I was right? look at what is happening to both now. They are running out of money, many are saying that neither will be there for the younger generation. Margaret Thatcher “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend]”
            Dan French

          44. Reality Check says

            “many are saying that neither will be there for the younger generation”

            ya, ALL GOP, who want to give the money to wall street, so they can make a buck every time you burp.

          45. danfrench says

            Just who do you think is going pay this out of control national debt except our children? The tooth fairy?
            Please show how I give your money to wall street.
            Dan French

          46. Reality Check says

            Gee, we were talking about SS and now all of a sudden we are talking national debt.

            So I guess that means I won that debate on SS.

          47. danfrench says

            That is absolutely correct. Where do you think the government is going to get the money when the SS and Medicare go broke? The government will have three choices. Default—Raise taxes on our children or borrow more money adding to the national debt. Please read your own post, you brought up SS and Medicare
            Dan French

          48. Reality Check says

            Pay down the national debt?

            be nice if you conservatives were concerned about that when you cons were making IT.

            Reagan was the first to TRIPLE the national debt.
            then Bush One DOUBLED the national debt YET AGAIN.
            then Clinton did a little damage and even left GW a SURPLUS.
            then Bush TWO added 76% MORE to the debt

            WHILE giving out a 1.7 TRILLION tax cut (now part of the debt)
            starting TWO wars that Obama had to pay for

            AND

            pushing through the Big Pharma bonus of ONE TRILLION in unpaid for bills that Obama had to pay for.(medicare Part D)

            Bush the fool also gets credit for the first 1.4 trillion on Obama’ tab since that was a GW Bush administration budget.

            so, without the GOP we would have a very small national debt.

          49. danfrench says

            National debt on Bush’s last day in office $10.6 Trillion National Debt today as of 9:45 Pacific time under Obama $19.003 trillion and Obama has almost a year left in office.
            Facts are what counts. Fact we will have a national debt of over $20 trillion by the end of obama’s term. Obama will have spent as much as all other presidents before him combined. Facts I deal only in facts.
            Dan French

          50. Reality Check says

            How do we pay for it?

            raise taxes,
            stop subsidizing big oil and big agro,
            cut the military budget in half
            single payer healthcare
            stop wasting. the friggin military has lost 5 TRILLION.
            just can’t account for it, and we keep pouring in more and more.

            You think we are going to pay back the debt, cutting back on school lunches?
            In Ca we raised taxes like responsible adults and now run a surplus.

          51. danfrench says

            OK raise taxes on who and how much?
            Cut subsidizing big oil and big argo– That is OK with me I can afford to pay more for fuel and other petroleum products and the cost of food going up won’t hurt me either.

            If you cut the Military budget in half do you really understand what would happen? You have made some really unformed statements before but this one is really living in La La land

            Single payer Healthcare. no thank you. I want good care when I am sick. Why do you think people from all over the world come here for care if they can afford it.
            Most good Doctors will not accept Obamacare and you want single payer?

            Audit the military and if there is any fraud ect those people should go to Jail.

            The California state debt stands at $426.1 billion as of 10:35 pacific time and rising.
            http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html
            facts, facts they are what counts
            Dan French

          52. Reality Check says

            “If you cut the Military budget in half do you really understand what would happen? ”

            considering we spend as much as the next 7 countries COMBINED, it think we will be OK.
            http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

            you really think the Chinese or Russians are going to “invade”

            more proof of your silliness.

          53. danfrench says

            Most of your statements come from being uninformed but this one is so foolish it doesn’t even require a response.
            Dan French

          54. Reality Check says

            “Most of your statements come from being uninformed but this one is so foolish it doesn’t even require a response.”

            Oh really Dan?
            that sounds more like you have NOTHING to say.

            If China attacks us what happens to their economy?

            If Russia attacks us what happens to their economy?

            tell me WHO I am supposed to be afraid of and why the HUGE military budget did not stop a bunch of guys with box cutters on 9/11?

          55. danfrench says

            Once again you are uniformed. Federal troops can not be Deployed on U.S. soil.Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress
            Millions of people are not living in Slavery today because of the U.S. military.
            Surely you are not as dumb as this last statement you just made.
            Dan French

          56. Reality Check says

            I love the way you just ignore my questions an rattle on about something unrelated.

            If China attacks us what happens to their economy?

            If Russia attacks us what happens to their economy?

            posse comitatus would not be in effect IF we were invaded.

          57. danfrench says

            No from your post ” HUGE military budget did not stop a bunch of guys with box cutters on 9/11?” that is what I was referring to. our Military has nothing to do with airport security as you suggested.
            as for the rest of your post.
            Repost
            China is now constructing military islands in the south china sea. Russia has already invaded the Crimea and is attacking the Ukraine

            http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-

            Russian aggression prompts Baltic nations to seek NATO force

            http://www.washingtontimes.com

            Russia’s ‘saber-rattling’ threat to stability

            https://www.fixthisnation.com/c

            There are many more and this is just fro 2010–2015

            You need to open your eyes.

            Dan French

          58. Reality Check says

            “Millions of people are not living in Slavery today because of the U.S. military.”

            WHAT is that supposed to mean?

          59. danfrench says

            I will go no further than just Europe who are not under the Nazi boot or the Russian hammer and cycle due to one fact. the United States of America Military.
            Dan French

          60. Reality Check says

            “Audit the military and if there is any fraud ect those people should go to Jail.”

            just like wall street people went to jail?

            yes indeed I rail against the Pres as well, contrary to the right wing talking points I am sure you are aware of.

          61. danfrench says

            Wrong, as far as I am concerned you break the law you need to go to Jail Democrat or Republican even if your name is Clinton.
            Dan French

          62. Reality Check says

            on that we agree.
            AND the only one who is going to send bankers to prison is Bernie.

            “even if your name is Clinton”

            see how prejudices you are?
            what about the Bush crime family?
            they only account for a large portion of our countries debt issues

          63. danfrench says

            If Bush broke the law he should be sitting the the cell next to Hillary.
            Dan French

          64. Reality Check says

            Clinton lied about an affair and got impeached.
            Bush lied the US into a war and the conservatives gave him a pass.

            Oh, let me guess, you think there were WMD in Iraq?

          65. danfrench says

            George Tenet Director of CIA (section Iraq WMD controversy)
            destruction (WMDs) in Iraq. At a meeting on December 12, 2002, he assured Bush that the evidence that Iraq had WMDs amounted to a “slam dunk case.”
            https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Wmd+slam+dunk&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1
            also almost every intelligent agency world wide also reported WMD were in Iraq.
            and remember Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
            Did you say Bush lied about WMD in Iraq? and now?
            Dan French

          66. Reality Check says

            Here’s why ex- CIA Director Tenet said Iraq would be a ‘slam dunk’

            “The way the [intelligence] analysts talked and wrote about their judgments,” Morell adds, “would have led anyone to think it was a slam dunk— that is, that Saddam definitely had active WMD programs. No one ever said to me, [agency analyst Jami] Miscik, [ex-director John] McLaughlin, Tenet, [Condoleezza] Rice, or the president, ‘You know, there is a chance he might not have them.’ Such a statement would have gotten everyone’s attention,” Morell writes.

            “https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2015/05/05/heres-why-ex-cia-director-tenet-said-iraq-would-be-a-slam-dunk/

            because “it seems like it” is not really hard evidence.

            shall we talk about the aluminum tubes that were for sure a sign of enriching uranium?
            the ones Rice talked about, while the CIA analysts said there was now way in hell they were for centrifuges.

            shall I link you to that lie?

          67. danfrench says

            No, You said Bush lied. that is not true. He depended on intelligence agencies. As you can plainly see even Hillary and John Kerry with the same intelligence
            voted to invade Iraq. were they lying also?
            Dan French

          68. Reality Check says

            Bush had a NEED and found the evidence to justify it,
            Hans Blix said for you and HE KNEW the truth.

            Bush was not ready to listen.

            evidence he supplied, yellow cake and aluminum tubes, was a distortion of the facts (a lie)

          69. Reality Check says

            “also almost every intelligent agency world wide also reported WMD were in Iraq. ”

            like?

          70. danfrench says

            Here is something you will like and should answer your question

            Senator Hillary Clinton agreed, speaking in October 2002:

            “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.”
            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=555

          71. Reality Check says

            “and remember Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
            and Bernie DID NOT.

            Did you say Bush lied about WMD in Iraq? and now?”
            I did say that, well the Bush administration.

            and now, what?

          72. Reality Check says

            this would be a notable lie by Bush about the Iraq situation.

            “Bush, in a speech to Congress, asserted that foreign intelligence sources had shared with the U.S. information that Saddam Hussein’s regime had attempted to procure yellowcake uranium from Niger, a country in the African Sahara,

            only to have former U.S. Amb. Joe Wilson claim he had investigated the claim and found it wanting, as he said in The New York Times in a piece called “What I Didn’t Find in Africa.”

            surely you remember this.
            so this and the fake aluminum tubes make TWO lies.

          73. Reality Check says

            so your discover networks page has all the same “theories” and Hans Blix is a key “witness’ to the “truth” on that web page.

            so Hans Blix then saying that web page is bull poo, should be significant, right Dan?

            “Speaking on the anniversary of the United States’ invasion of Iraq, originally declared as a pre-emptive strike against a madman ready to deploy weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), the man first charged with finding those weapons said that the U.S. government has “the same mind frame as the witch hunters of the past” — looking for evidence to support a foregone conclusion.

            “There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction,” said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations’ chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003; from 1981 to 1997 he headed the International Atomic Energy Agency. “We went to sites [in Iraq] given to us by intelligence, and only in three cases did we find something” – a stash of nuclear documents, some Vulcan boosters, and several empty warheads for chemical weapons. More inspections were required to determine whether these findings were the “tip of the iceberg” or simply fragments remaining from that deadly iceberg’s past destruction, Blix said he told the United Nations Security Council. However, his work in Iraq was cut short when the United States and the United Kingdom took disarmament into their own hands in March of last year.

            Blix accused U.S. President George W. Bush and U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair of acting not in bad faith, but with a severe lack of “critical thinking.” The United States and Britain failed to examine the sources of their primary intelligence – Iraqi defectors with their own agendas for encouraging regime change – with a skeptical eye, he alleged. In the buildup to the war, Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis were cooperating with U.N. inspections, and in February 2003 had provided Blix’s team with the names of hundreds of scientists to interview, individuals Saddam claimed had been involved in the destruction of banned weapons. Had the inspections been allowed to continue, Blix said, there would likely be a very different situation in Iraq today. As it was, America’s pre-emptive, unilateral actions “have bred more terrorism there and elsewhere.”

            http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml

            now that we have that settled.
            Bush should be in prison.

          74. Reality Check says

            Oh and lets not forget.

            Dick Cheney on why the US shouldn’t invade Iraq (1994):

            And if you take down the central government in Iraq, you could easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off.

            “Because if we had gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn’t have been anybody else with us. It would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq. None of the Arab forces that were willing to fight with us in Kuwait were willing to invade Iraq. Once you got to Iraq and took it over and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world. And if you take down the central government in Iraq, you could easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it the Syrians would like to have, the west. Part of eastern Iraq the Iranians would like to claim. Fought over for eight years. In the north, you’ve got the Kurds. And if the Kurds spin loose and join with Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It’s a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.”

            http://www.juancole.com/2014/06/central-government-easily.html

          75. Reality Check says

            “Most good Doctors will not accept Obamacare”

            well con, Obamacare or the ACA as intelligent humans call it,
            IS NOT INSURANCE.
            is a REGULATION on the healthcare industry.

            everything is PRIVATE Insurance COMPANIES, low info human.

            God, here I though I was dealing with a slightly intelligent conservative.
            But NO, I get the same old Talking Point Parrot of the right bull poo from the guy who pretends to be informed.

          76. danfrench says

            Before you step off into this I feel it is only Fair to tell you I have owned and or run companies it the Medical field, automotive which included insurance, construction and I spent a good amount of time in the military.
            Obamacare is sold by private insurance and the low income people are subsidised by the government aka you and me. I am glad you live in Calif. as I do and that is where I was the Patient coordinator for a 1400 patient clinic which had two 4 boarded Doctors. One Doctor did their fellowship at Cedars Sinai in L.A. and the other at USC. That means they are the very best at what they do. You do know what a fellowship is –Correct?
            I will talk about Bluecross because it is the largest provider of private healthcare in California. The part of B.C. (Blue Cross) which deals with the affordable care act is Covered California. We were contracted with BC before the ACA. If the BC patient was part of ACA in the upper right corner of their ins. ID card it said cover california. So many California Doctors, including our clinic, would not accept the Covered California patents that BC stopped putting cover California on the cards. Then the patient ID number was what you had to look at and the ACA patients ID numbers would start with EX meaning Exchange. ACA payments to the Doctors can be as low as 30% of medicare rates depending on the Patient’s premium— co-pay and deductible. These Patents are in most cases forced to see Doctors who treat Medi-Cal Patients which is california welfare as I am sure you know.
            You need to know who you are talking to before you pop off and start calling people names.
            Dan French

          77. Reality Check says

            well Dan, IF you are all this, WHY act like ACA is an insurance plan?
            clearly it is NOT.

            the ACA is a piece of LEGISLATION that passed Congress,
            It has NO WORKERS, it has NO insurance plans.

            tell me were I can go to buy insurance that has ACA brand on the top of the page?
            pretty sure everyone has a card that has someone else insurance logo on IT.

            plans are affected by the ACA, I am sure and that is probably why the cards note IT.
            BUT,
            the ACA is a piece of LEGISLATION that passed Congress,
            It has NO WORKERS, it has NO insurance plans.

          78. Reality Check says

            “Single payer Healthcare. no thank you.”

            single payer does not mean Socialize medicine, low info con.

            it means NO insurance company 20-25% overhead, which will save a few hundred billion right off the top.

            United healthcare pays it’s top guy 66 million last year?
            “UnitedHealth CEO Stephen Hemsley made more than $66 million in 2014”

            http://www.startribune.com/unitedhealth-ceo-stephen-hemsley-made-more-than-66-million-in-2014/298924971/

            AND they have a few hundred executives that make a million a year as well.

            BIG Saving there don’t you think?

            Oh, and every doctors office/hospital has many staffers to deal with INSURANCE claims that are ALWAYS fought by the insurance company (to keep profits UP).

            more saving there when there is less fighting once the profit motive is gone.

          79. danfrench says

            If you want to stop that it is very easy. Allow all ins companies to sell across state lines as long as they obey that state’s laws. Free enterprise and competition will bring the price of medical cost down. That would be the capitalist system working correctly.
            Dan French

          80. Reality Check says

            “Allow all ins companies to sell across state lines as long as they obey that state’s laws”

            wow, another Talking Point.
            you are just programmed aren’t you.

            ok, this is currently NOT possible because states all have different standards.

            Red states will let private business fuck with the people for profits sake, Blue states will not.
            IF it was made available across state lines, everyone would start a business in the state with the lowest standards and make the rest of the country eat those standards.

            an informed human would know this.

          81. danfrench says

            A short lesson in economics for you. The more competition the better the service and the lower the price will be. Even a socialist should be able to understand that. Each State has it’s own laws. Please reread my post I said and obey state laws.More info. for you who do not know what they are talking about. You can not just go out and start anytype insurance co. the main problem is the reserve.
            Once again you need to know what you are talking about before you shoot off your uninformed mouth.
            Dan French

          82. Reality Check says

            they would all set up “shop” in the state with the lowest regulations.
            same reason so many corporations are registered in Delaware.
            lax regulations.

          83. danfrench says

            A little lesson in business. Even if you set up an corporation in Delaware you still have to obey state laws of the state they are selling your policies in.
            Once again a simple example. I own the only gas station in town. I raise my gas prices very high. You have to buy my gas because there is no other gas station in your town. Now a second station moves into town and sell gas at a lower price and gets all the business. What is the first station going to do? Now insert Health insurance company in place of Gas Station.—- Does that clear it up.
            Competition is the very best way to lower prices and increase service in Healthcare as well as any other business. It is called Free enterprise the corner stone of a true capitalist society aka a Free America.
            Dan French

          84. Reality Check says

            “Why do you think people from all over the world come here for care if they can afford it.”

            WHY do people go to Mexico for medical treatment?
            cause America is SO GOOD?

            “6 Million Americans Travel Abroad Each Year for Surgeries, Medical Treatments”

            Gee Dan, you think maybe there is an issue with American healthcare?

            “An estimated 6 million Americans are traveling each year to such countries as India, Costa Rica, Mexico and Thailand in search of less-expensive treatments for simple and complex procedures. Even France and Belgium tend to be cheaper than the United States.”

            http://news.health.com/2009/04/08/traveling-treatment/

            Got any more Talking Points for me?

          85. danfrench says

            People go to those countries because it is cheaper. You always get what you pay for. You want to go to Mexico to get Brain surgery? By all means be my guest.
            The waiting time to get into the clinic I ran was 2 to 3 months for a new patient.
            We turned patients away all the time because we openings in our schedule.
            No talking points, just the truth.
            Dan French

          86. Reality Check says

            BUT, I thought the US healthcare was so great?
            just TOO expensive for anyone to afford.

            so that is not really healthcare then is it.

          87. danfrench says

            Well if it was too expensive then you should be able to see a top Doctor anytime you want or need. That is not the case is it. The good American Doctors have a full patient load. Even the sub standard Doctors are full serving welfare (In California Medi-Cal) and obamacare patients. Please do other American patients a favor and go to the UK—Canada—Mexico or wherever next time you need a Doctor.I am sure you will be much happer.
            Dan French

          88. Reality Check says

            I have a nice union healthcare package.eyes and dental too.

            I saw no change when ACA started.
            my daughter was happy about the 26 year old part.

          89. danfrench says

            Good. Is your policy considered a Cadillac policy. If so Obama was talking about an extra tax on Cadillac policies. Will you be affected? I am not even sure he got it passed.
            Dan French

          90. Reality Check says

            “Please show how I give your money to wall street.”

            not sure what that is supposed to mean.
            Paul Ryan and the gang want to give SS money to wall street.

          91. danfrench says

            your post ALL GOP, who want to give the money to wall street, so they can make a buck every time you burp. I assume you are talking about treasury money that is part yours as a an American citizen.
            How is Paul Ryan trying to give SS money to Wall street. Are you saying it is the same as when Obama stole $716 billion from Medicare to support obamacare.
            Is that what you are saying?
            Dan French

          92. Reality Check says

            “Are you saying it is the same as when Obama stole $716 billion from Medicare to support obamacare.”

            Is this a con pretending to be smart?

            cause THAT is just another Right Wing LIE.
            “In an interview on the CBS program 60 Minutes, Mitt Romney said Obama “robbed Medicare” of $716 billion to pay for “Obamacare.” We found that exaggerated what Obama had done in the health care law.

            While the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn’t actually cut Medicare. Savings come from reducing money that goes to private insurers who provide Medicare Advantage programs, among other things. The money wasn’t “robbed.”

            We rated the statement Mostly False.”

            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/aug/15/checking-facts-700-billion-medicare-cut/

            SO NOW you can prove you are not another lying con.

          93. danfrench says

            The ACA also includes a number of other provisions related to

            health care that are estimated to reduce net federal outlays (primarily

            for Medicare). By repealing those provisions, H.R. 6079 would

            increase other direct spending in the next decade by an estimated

            $711 billion
            http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/43471-hr6079.pdf

            Once again you need to know what you are talking about before you pop off and start calling people names
            Dan French

          94. Reality Check says

            DUDE, above you CLAIMED (lied) that Obama STOLE 716 billion FROM medicare.

            THIS is a different thing entirely, so YA I have the right to go OFF.

            so the CBO is a good source?

            fine,

            “Repealing ObamaCare would add $353 billion to deficits, CBO says”

            http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245530-cbo-obamacare-repeal-would-add-353b-to-deficit

            “My Center on Budget and Policy Priorities colleague Paul Van de Water provided a convenient guide to CBO’s original cost estimate here, and all the law’s essential features remain in place. The measures that subsidize the expansion of health coverage are budget costs. Those costs are more than offset, however, by budget savings in Medicare, Medicaid and other programs, as well as revenues from taxes and fees. The resulting deficit reduction will be modest over the first 10 years, CBO projects, but larger in the ensuing decade.”

            http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/06/20/cbo-confirms-obamacare-reduces-deficits

            once again, I know exactly what I am talking about.

            YOU on the other hand are a walking Talking Point.
            but good to know the CBO is a good source.

            shall we look at it to prove just how well we have recovered from the GOP implosion of 08?

          95. danfrench says

            If you can not read and understand the CBO report that is your problem, not mine
            Dan French

          96. Reality Check says

            I saw your report and then linked you to things TWO years more recent that all cite the CBO saying ACA is saving money, so…

            in 2012, the law had not even taken full effect.

          97. Reality Check says

            “How is Paul Ryan trying to give SS money to Wall street. ”

            “I have proposed reforms that would put an end to the raid of the Social Security Trust Fund, give millions of low-income Americans a chance to prosper in the investor class, and restore confidence in the intergenerational compact of Social Security.

            I have proposed giving younger workers the voluntary option to invest over 1/3 of their payroll taxes into personal retirement accounts. These benefits will become the property of the individual, which can be passed onto their heirs. These voluntary retirement accounts also have built-in safeguards to minimize risk–with a guaranteed minimum benefit, while still allowing for growth far above the chronically low rates of return in our current system. The real risk to individuals contributing to Social Security comes in the form of those clinging to the status quo. If we do not place Social Security on sound financial footing now, there will be painful adjustments in the years ahead. My proposal would make Social Security permanently solvent.”

            http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan_Social_Security.htm

            AND considering this has been talked about for probably 10 years, where have you been?

            with your head deep in the sand?
            or immersed in Right Wing Propaganda?

          98. danfrench says

            Welcome to the Republican party. Your proposal about SS has been made over the years by many Republicans. One of the most notable is Sean Hannity of fox news who is a registered conservative. Many government agencies already do this but the private sector is not given this option. You can find this on many websites. No I have been for doing away with social security for many years and returning all monies stolen from the people to the people with interest.
            My head is never in the Sand. You might remember it was a democratic president Roosevelt that passed the SS act in 1935— Was he part of the right wing propaganda? The answer to that is no, he was a liberal Democrat. Now who has their socialist head in the sand?
            Dan French

          99. Reality Check says

            once again Dan jumps to a new topic when I prove what I have been saying.

            here is one reason this will never happen if we remain sane.

            Privatization has been a disappointment elsewhere.

            Advocates of privatization often cite other countries such as Chile and the United Kingdom, where the governments pushed workers into personal investment accounts to reduce the long-term obligations of their Social Security systems, as models for the United States to emulate. But the sobering experiences in those countries actually provide strong arguments against privatization.

            A report this year from the World Bank, once an enthusiastic privatization proponent, expressed disappointment that in Chile, and in most other Latin American countries that followed in its footsteps, “more than half of all workers [are excluded] from even a semblance of a safety net during their old age.”

            Other cautionary points made in the World Bank report and other studies about the experience in Chile:

            Investment accounts of retirees are much smaller than originally predicted-so low that 41 percent of those eligible to collect pensions continue to work.

            Voracious commissions and other administrative costs have swallowed up large shares of those accounts. The brokerage firm CB Capitales calculated (see english language discussion by Stephen Kay here) that when commission charges are taken into consideration in Chile, the total average return on worker contributions between 1982 and 1999 was 5.1 percent-not 11 percent as calculated by the superintendent of pension funds. That report found that the average worker would have done better simply by placing their pension fund contributions in a passbook savings account.

            The transition costs of shifting to a privatized system in Chile averaged 6.1 percent of GDP in the 1980s, 4.8 percent in the 1990s, and are expected to average 4.3 percent from 1999 to 2037. Those costs are far higher than originally projected, in part because the government is obligated to provide subsidies for workers failing to accumulate enough money in their accounts to earn a minimum pension.

            http://www.tcf.org/work/social_insurance/detail/twelve-reasons-why-privatizing-social-security-is-a-bad-idea

          100. danfrench says

            once again you accuse of jumping to a new subject when it is you who introduced the subject. We did not have for social security or Medicare for 150 years and we were a much better off as a country. FDR signed the social security in 1935 and LBJ medicare in 1965 both Democrats with socialist leanings and both programs are heading into a financial disaster on a scale the world has never seen before.
            Dan French

          101. Progressive Republican says

            When did she male your alleged admission?

          102. danfrench says

            Hillary Clinton on Saturday said she’s confident nothing marked classified was relayed in her private emails while she was secretary of state.
            http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-emails-were-not-marked-classified
            I might remind you that it is a felony to send classified ect to private server whether it is marked classified or not.

            The fact that Hillary, as SoS, instructed him to remove the headers of a classified message
            http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/265367-clinton-defends-telling-aid-to-send-data-through-nonsecure-channel

            http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-says-classified-emails-were-on-server-1440030491

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/29/the-state-department-concludes-there-is-top-secret-material-in-hillary-clintons-email-correspondence-from-her-time-as-secretary-of-state/

            How many do you need?
            Dan French

          103. Reality Check says

            “I might remind you that it is a felony to send classified ect to private server whether it is marked classified or not.”

            NO. reminding will not do.

            you have to PROVE THAT.

            AND since she is not even under investigation, seems you guys are barking up a tree.

          104. danfrench says

            Foolishness. Read the law. Hillary is not under investigation by the FBI?
            Then am I suppose to think the convocation of her server and the recovery of her deleted e-mails is only a training exercise for the FBI?
            I enjoy conversation with liberals but if you going make ridiculous statements it will not be informative for either of us. Surly not even you believe what you just posted.
            Dan French

          105. Reality Check says

            Her server is under investigation.
            Link me to something that says Hillary is under investigation.

            Ridiculous statements are the forte’ of the right.

          106. danfrench says

            I see, by your statement if the IRS thinks I have been cooking the books and takes my business books, it is not me or my business that is being investigated it is only the books. Give me a break, only a liberal not wanting to face facts would ever make statement like that.
            Dan French

          107. Deby says

            YET

          108. Reality Check says

            only been a 18 month long investigation.
            there is still hope.

          109. Deby says

            Akladytroll has a drinking problem which leads to “posting while drunk” frequently. Best to ignore her/it.

          110. danfrench says

            Each year the liberals get more mis-informed and delusional. When you put facts in front of them most stat calling you names. I have given them a undeniable fact and all they can is call me KKK, racist or bigot ect. You can not let them lie. We have to call them on their lies every time.
            Dan French

          111. Reality Check says

            Well we have yet to get acquainted.

            ” When you put facts in front of them ”
            unfortunately a conservatives idea of a fact is a blog done from some guys basement.
            Oh, and lets not forget the the fallback of the right wing is that MSM always lies for the liberals.
            unless of course it’s something damning to the left, and then it’s a good news source.

            Tell me something undeniable.

          112. Deby says

            your’re a troll?

          113. BTeboe says

            And in your little tiny world you watch all the MSM and get your talking points daily. Kind of like a parrot. Squawk – Squawk says Reality Check. Reality Check wants a cracker. Over and over again with the lies and the HilLIARY loving. I’ll tell you something undeniable – Reality Check is a flaming moron.

          114. Reality Check says

            PS moron, I am Bernie Supporter.

          115. BTeboe says

            Squawk squawk squawk. Reality wants a cracker. Reality will repeat anything he hears. Squawk squawk and more squawk. Please stay home on election day, you’re too ignorant to have any say on what happens in this country.

          116. Reality Check says

            is that a con showing his intellect?

          117. pineapple says

            That proves you are a moron.

          118. danfrench says

            Please point to a fact I have presented that was not true.
            Dan French

          119. Reality Check says

            well you will know when that happens.
            I don’t mince words about lying conservatives.

            you were supposed to Tell me something undeniable.

          120. danfrench says

            I am a conservative. Please present any lie I have told. Please do not mince words.
            Dan French

          121. Reality Check says

            I too want the DOJ to get off the pot and Hillary to drop out so Bernie can move on easily.

          122. danfrench says

            So you want to turn America over to the socialist?
            Dan French

          123. Reality Check says

            maybe this would be a good time to look up DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST, especially since you pretend to be informed.

          124. danfrench says

            Hitler was a democratically elected Socialist.
            Dan French

          125. Reality Check says

            Wow, so REALLY Disingenuous.
            or is it just REAL LOW INFO?

            Guess what, the Democratic Socialist countries of EU are the BEST places to do business according to Forbes.

            the top 10 countries to do business IN according to conservative Forbes magazine.

            http://www.forbes.com/best-countries-for-business/

          126. danfrench says

            It is not true?
            August 19 1934, Adolf Hitler, already chancellor, is also elected president of Germany.
            Dan French

          127. Reality Check says

            SO?
            AND Germany was not “socialist” either.

            you DO KNOW the definition or are you going to use what ever fits your AGENDA?

          128. danfrench says

            No I never change and you can confirm that by reading any of my post.
            I did not say germany was not socialist. They have never known what real freedom is like. If they as a country had ever experienced it as I have they would not be so willing to give it up as you are.
            Dan French

          129. pineapple says

            This list, only scratches the surface of Hillary Clinton’s Scandals, Lies and Flip-Flops:
            Date Story
            1/20/15 Clinton State Department Waived Visa Ban for Democratic Donors
            1/29/15 One of Taliban 5 Traded For Bergdahl Returns To Conflict (But Hillary Said They Weren’t Threat)
            2/3/15 In 2008 Hillary Linked Autism To Vaccines #Grandmother’sGoingSenile?
            2/25/15 Hillary and Clinton Foundation “Gamed” The Donation Restrictions System
            3/3/15 Hillary Violated Federal Rules–Used Personal Email As Secretary of State
            3/4/15 Video From 2007-When Hillary Slammed Bush WH For Using Private Emails
            3/5/15 Hillary’s State Dept. Forced Out US Ambassador To Kenya For Using Private Email
            3/5/15 Hillary’s Fake Email Transparency Obscures Her Lack Of Regard for National Security
            3/9/15 Axelrod: Hillary’s ‘Given Oxygen To The Story By Not Just Coming Out’ And Explaining Emails
            3/11/15 The Eight Biggest Lies Hillary Told At Her Email Press Conference
            3/16/15 Hillary Changes Her Story On Deleting Personal Emails
            3/27/15 Chuck Todd: Nothing [Hillary’s Loyal] Sid Blumenthal Does Surprises Me–Zero
            3/27/15 Trey Gowdy: Hillary Wiped The Mail Server Clean
            4/12/15 We Waited For THIS ???? Hillary Makes Announcement Via MEH Video
            4/15/15 Hillary’s Email Scandal Just Got Worse
            4/15/15 NOW?? Why Is Hillary First Hiring People Now To Develop Her Agenda?
            4/16/15 Hillary Meets Iowa Dem. Leaders But First Makes Them Turn In Phones And Cameras
            4/17/15 Chuck Todd: Hillary ‘Swung And Missed’ Her First Campaign Week
            4/19/15 WOW! Even Mika Brzezinski Crapped All Over Hillary’s First Week
            4/20/15 ‘Clinton Cash’ The Book Which May End the Hillary for President Campaign
            4/23/15 NY Times Reports Clinton Foundation Donations May Have Allowed Russia To Buy Control Of US Uranium
            4/24/15 Latest Scandal Eruption-> Pay Clinton Foundation For State Dept. Haiti Contract
            4/24/15 Trey Gowdy To Clinton Lawyer: Here’s 136 Unanswered Questions About Hillary’s Email
            4/26/15 WSJ And NY Times Warned About Hillary/Clinton Foundation & Kazakhstan Uranium In 2008
            4/28/15 Hillary Voted For India Nuke Deal- Clinton Foundation Got Millions From Indian Politician
            4/30/15 Video: In 2009 Hillary Promised That All Bill’s Foreign Donors Were Disclosed
            5/4/15 Bill Clinton “Hillary Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Donor”
            5/6/15 Hillary Clinton In 2003: ‘I Am, You Know, Adamantly Against Illegal Immigrants’
            5/7/15 Breaking Audio–Hillary Clinton In 2003: ‘I Am, You Know, Adamantly Against Illegal Immigrants’
            5/11/15 Clinton Foundation Tried To Strong-Arm Charity Watchdog That Gave It Bad Rating
            5/11/15 Team Clinton’s New Campaign Slogan ‘The Ends Justify The Means’
            5/12/15 National Archives Inspector General Said Hillary’s Private Email Server Was A Concern
            5/13/15 Despite Promise, Clinton Foundation Took Foreign Donations LAST WEEK!
            5/14/15 ABC’s Mickey Mouse Move With Story George Stephanopoulos Hid Donations To Clinton Foundation
            5/18/15 Clinton Crony-Foundation Employee Advised Hillary At State W/Bad Info From Libyan Biz Clients
            5/18/15 Judicial Watch Documents: Obama and Hillary Were Lying About Benghazi From The Beginning
            5/18/15 Progressives Getting Super Angry About Hillary’s Super PAC Hypocrisy
            5/19/15 Ron Fournier: Hillary’s Email Excuse Is ‘From Old Clinton Playbook’ ‘Laughable’
            5/19/15 Another Hillary Lie: Used Email Address At State She Said Didn’t Exist
            5/20/15 Former Defense Sec. Bob Gates Throws Obama And Hillary Under The Bus
            5/21/15 Emails Point To Sidney Blumenthal As Source of The Mohammed Video/Benghazi Story
            5/22/15 New Emails Show Hillary Was Warned About A Benghazi Attack Year Before 9/11/12
            5/22/15 Hillary Was Pushing For Tax Breaks To Benefit Clinton Library Donors
            5/26/15 Bill Clinton Created Shell Company So Hillary Wouldn’t Have To Report Income In Financial Disclosure
            6/1/15 Hillary Gave Sweetheart Arms Deals To Clinton Foundation Donors
            6/2/15 Few Takers–So Hillary Allows Men Buy Tkts. To Event ‘Just For Women’
            6/3/15 New Hillary Revelation: State Department Sold Toxicological Agents To Foundation’s Donor Nations
            6/15/15 Former Israeli Ambassador To U.S- Obama Purposely Screwed Up Relationship W/Israel (With Hillary’s Help)
            6/15/15 Afraid of Something? Hillary Campaign Bans “Pool Reporter” From Monday’s NH Events
            6/23/15 Hillary Tries To Explain Scandal But Gets Decimated By Clinton Cash Author
            6/26/15 State Dept.: Hillary Never Gave Us Blumenthal Emails (What Else Did She Omit?)
            7/3/15 Refuting Hillary’s Ridiculous Claim- She Will NOT Be Better For Israel Than Obama: Here’s Proof
            7/5/15 What Is Hillary Afraid Of?
            7/8/15 Hillary Lied To CNN: House Committee Releases Subpoena She Claimed She Didn’t Get
            7/9/15 Gowdy: There Were THREE Subpoenas-TWO Issued Way Before Hillary Destroyed Evidence
            7/14/15 Hillary Clinton May Have Just Gotten Congressional Approval For The Iran Deal
            7/23/15 Just As She Did With Mrs. Arafat, Hillary Wont Rebuke Questioner Who Slandered Israel
            7/24/15 Inspectors General Ask DOJ For Criminal Inquiry Into Hillary’s Emails
            7/30/15 Protecting Hillary? Kerry’s Trying To Delay State Dept. Email Release
            7/30/15 Wow: Another Strange Hillary State Dept.-Clinton Foundation ‘Coincidence’
            7/31/15 Intelligence Fears Hundreds Of U.S. Secrets Leaked In Hillary’s Private Emails
            8/5/15 FBI Investigating Security Of Hillary’s Email Server, Morning Joe-Email Story Is Getting Uglier
            8/11/15 At Least Two Emails On Clinton’s Server Were “Top Secret”
            8/13/15 Judge Wants Hillary’s PERSONAL Emails–Intelligence Wants Her Security Clearance Suspended
            8/17/15 Prosecuted For Mishandling Secret Info, Two Former Officials Ask, What About Hillary?
            8/19/15 And Mika Too! Morning Joe Panel Eviscerates Hillary’s Handling Of Emails
            8/19/15 Asked About Emails, Hillary Does A “Walk-off” Arm Wave
            8/20/15 NBC News: Democrats Believe Clinton Staffers In Denial About Server Scandal
            8/21/15 Team Hillary Trying To Blame Scandal On GOP, But Dems Freaking Out Anyway
            8/24/15 State Dept. Never Told DHS About Hillary’s Server Despite The Rules
            8/25/15 New Revelation-Hillary’s Emails Were Classified BEFORE She Received Them (And Remain Classified)
            8/26/15 Undercover O’Keefe Video Shows Hillary Campaign Skirting Election Laws
            8/28/15 Hillary Clinton HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A NAZI!!!!
            8/31/15 Hillary’s Email Problems Getting Much Worse (Will She Blame The Email Server Fairy?)
            9/8/15 Bad News For Hillary? Senate Offers Her ‘Server Guy’ Immunity
            9/8/15 Special Intelligence Review Confirms Hillary’s Server Had Top Secret Emails
            9/9/15 Hillary Clinton Makes Speech In Support Of (Awful) Iran Deal She Helped To Craft
            9/10/15 Dept. Of Justice Covers Up For Hillary Clinton In Federal Court
            9/17/15 Hillary Clinton Won’t Say If She Saw Planned Parenthood “Selling Baby Parts” Videos
            9/17/15 Before It Was Revealed To Public She Had Them-State Dept. Asked Clinton To Destroy Classified Emails
            9/28/15 ‘Meet The Press’ Runs Brutal Video Of Hillary’s Flip-Flops
            10/1/15 In 2012 Hillary Clinton Also Bashed Romney’s Warning About Russia
            10/2/15 Video: ‘Her Majesty’s Secret Server: For Hillary Clinton’s Eyes Only’
            10/7/15 Hillary’s #2 At State Shared Now-Classified Info With Clinton Foundation
            10/6/15 Clinton Email Scandal Grows: Server Company Worried About Being Roped Into Cover-Up
            10/13/15 Hillary’s Server Wasn’t Just Vulnerable, It Was EXTRA-Vulnerable To Hackers
            10/17/15 Democratic Party Committee Woman Says Party Mgmt’s In Tank For Hillary
            10/20/15 White House & Hillary First Tried To Link Benghazi Attack To A Different Video
            10/22/15 Hillary’s Latest Benghazi Lie: Attack Was Caused By A Low Budget
            10/23/15 There Was Much New Info During Hillary’s Benghazi Testimony But It Won’t Hurt Her (Yet)
            10/23/15
            Hillary Caught Lying Again: State Denies 90%-95% Of Her Work Emails Already On Their System
            10/24/15 Bob Woodward Explains How Hillary Is Like Nixon
            10/30/15 Debunking the Media Lies About Hillary’s Benghazi Video Lie
            11/3/15 Email Release Reveals Hillary’s Sidney Blumenthal Lies
            11/4/15 RNC Scares Clinton Foundation Into Refiling Tax Returns
            11/8/15 Lexis/Nexis Search Shows Mainstream Media Covering Up Hillary Clinton Scandal
            11/10/15 If Politico Is Fair, Why Doesn’t It Vet Hillary Claim She Tried To Join Marines?
            11/11/15 Clinton Doubles-Down On ‘Fishy’ Story That She Tried To Join Marines (Politico’s Silent)
            11/12/15 FBI Expanding Clinton Email Probe Again, Investigating ‘Materially False Statements’
            11/12/15 Hillary’s Mom Must Have Traveled Through Time & Five Other Underreported Clinton Lies
            11/16/15 Hillary Gets Environmental Endorsement, Then Hops on Gas-Guzzling Learjet
            11/16/15 Judicial Watch Releases Huma Abedin Email Where She Says Clinton’s ‘Often Confused’
            11/16/15 Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street 9/11 Donor Gaffe Was Also A Lie (Then She Lied About The Lie)
            11/18/15 Clinton Slams Comedians for Making Jokes About Her (Demands Their Personal Info)
            11/24/15 Why Is The Laborers’ International Union Hiding Clinton’s Keystone Opposition From Its Members?
            11/30/15 Clinton Used State Dept. To Speak With Corporate Donors, Political Supporters
            12/8/15 Hillary: I Was Happy With Obama’s ISIS Address
            12/11/15 MISSING: The State Department Emails Of Hillary Clinton’s Computer Guy
            12/18/15 Documents Reveal Clinton Ignored State Dept. Security Warning Not To Use Blackberry
            12/21/15 No Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Is NOT ISIS’ Best Recruiter
            12/22/15 In 2001 Clinton Wanted To Profile Muslims. Was That An ISIS Recruitment Video?

            Jeff Dunetz is Editor, Publisher, The Lid (Lidblog.com), writes for MRCTV.org, reports for IranTruth.org, and is a political columnist for The Jewish Star.

          130. Reality Check says

            “1/20/15 Clinton State Department Waived Visa Ban for Democratic Donors”

            the Clinton State Department was in the 90’s

          131. danfrench says

            Thank you, The more info. we have the more foolish the liberals aka progressives aka socialist aka democrats look.
            Dan French

          132. Reality Check says

            well first the “info” needs to be TRUE.

            Secondly, Right wing fantasies are not really something the rest of us think about.

            lets look at the first on, shall we?

            1/20/15 Clinton State Department Waived Visa Ban for Democratic Donors

            Gee, I was not aware that the Clinton administration was still going in 2015.

            I distinctly remember Clinton leaving office in jan of 01.

            I guess Pineapple is just another REALLY LOW INFO con.

          133. danfrench says

            Sorry. perhaps you need to ck your info. I said nothing about any visa.I have no idea what you are talking about.
            Dan French

          134. danfrench says

            Update— I did find this article in the New York times and several others confirming Pineapple’s statement. Perhaps you are the one who needs to get their facts straight and get a Reality Check. That is if facts mean anything to you.
            Dan French

        2. TAK1 says

          In other words, you aren’t really breaking the law if you don’t get caught?

        3. kbfallon says

          well her ignorance she is a character flaw…even you should see that …You are Hillary aren’t you?

        4. Francisco Machado says

          A criminal is a criminal when the act is committed. One is a convicted criminal when tried and found guilty. The action of the court does not make you a criminal, it (hopefully) convicts you if proven guilty and acquits you if not proven guilty.

    2. aztex7007 says

      You smoke too much dope !

  9. danfrench says

    It is past time for Hillary to be arrested, FBI and DOJ step up and do your jobs!!!
    Dan French

  10. aztex7007 says

    Yeah, her usual defense, I didn’t know, I don’t recall……………..when and how soon will
    this criminal go away ?? Soon, I hope. However, with our moronic public who bow at her
    altar, she may be our next pres. All hope will be lost. She would sell the nuclear suitcase
    for profit for the foundation.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      When were criminal charges brought against her?
      When was she tried?
      .
      Suggest you look up the word and use it correctly.

      1. Deby says

        Oh congratulations! Are you out of the insane aslyum on good behavior or were they just overcrowded?

        1. Barry Bevers says

          You have to consider the source. AKLady is a disability advocate. I work in medical and I can tell you that 3/4 of those disability claims are from people faking injuries. Another bleed on the taxpayers. She thinks Hitlery will insure her ability to continue to perpetrate the fraud. Some people have a legitimate disability but most of them just don’t want to work. Yes AKLady, we see you clearly.

        2. ABO says

          She has apparently escaped and taken the office computer with her.

      2. kbfallon says

        Keep up with current events–the FBI has her under investigation for crimes against the American citizens and would have her indicted already if Obammie lets them do their jobs.

        1. Reality Check says

          they are investigating HER SERVER, silly human.

          oh and then there is THIS.

          “The State Department and DOJ have already made clear that Clinton

          violated no laws or policies and did nothing wrong, and now the FBI is

          declining to be dragged into the partisan fray. The result: a leading

          republican in congress is now openly attacking the FBI.”

          http://www.alan.com/2015/09/22/fbi-shuts-down-gop-hillary-email-investigation-effort/

          and here is another hundred thousand sources for you read the same statement from the DOJ.

          https://www.google.com/search?q=FBI%2BHillary+Clinton+not+being+in

          I await your links of rebuttal

          1. BTeboe says

            NEWSFLASH – I think we’ve been here before, (just shows how dense you are), the FBI does not INVESTIGATE inanimate objects. Do you know what an inanimate object is? It’s kind of like the gun thing. Inanimate objects do not commit crimes. Okay. Is the FBI a partisan right wing conspiracy and they’re just all ganging up Clinton.. Why don’t you grow a brain cell, maybe two, and have a synapse. Or better yet why don’t you try and find your head in the ground you keep it buried in. Once you find it, you can cram it straight up your butt which is where it belongs.
            The Dept of Injustice is being run by a political hack. Once they start enforcing the laws I will accept them as the Dept of Justice. Until then, Lady Justice has ripped off the blindfold, thrown the scales on the floor and is stabbing us all in the back with her sword.

          2. Reality Check says

            so I wonder WHY the con has not linked me to a story where the FBI says it is investigating Hillary.

            seems like it would be easy, but alas you just flap those gums.

          3. BTeboe says

            What are you too stupid (of course you are) to do some Googling on the FBI and HilLIARy Clinton? I’m not doing your homework Goober. Do it yourself. Your mom is tired of paying for your Internet access.

          4. Reality Check says

            see fool, in this debate I say they are investigating her server

            “The government has been examining the former secretary of State’s private email server since last July, when the inspector general for the intelligence community issued a security referral noting that classified information could have been mishandled.”

            http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/267269-fbis-clinton-investigation-not-letting-up

            so NOW this is where you find me something (other than a blog from some guys basement) quoting the FBI as saying they are investigating Hillary.

          5. BTeboe says

            And I say you are an idiot and do not understand the word inanimate. That server didn’t go out and get the classified and store it on itself. What is so hard about understanding that. Just because HilLIARy says they are not investigating her, she’s trying to get people to look away.
            http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/fournier-hillarys-biggest-challenge-is-the-fbi-primary-video/
            FBI is investigating Mrs. Clinton. And part of the investigation is looking through her private server. Along with taking depositions with people who worked for her the FBI will decide if she jeopardized the national security. The indictments will come because there are people in prison for doing a whole lot less with classified. She blatantly disregarded federal regulations (USC18, Sec793) on keeping our secrets our secrets. Have you even bothered to read what laws she has broken? I think not. I think you have some fantasy going on in your head and that’s how you view this subject. You’re too stupid to figure out what the problem is here. I did not know stupid people like you continue to exist. You don’t have the sense of tomato. Also your articles are just a tad outdated. May I suggest you do a Google search for FBI+HilLIARy and try to keep up. I know it’s hard.

          6. Reality Check says

            well fool of the right, THAT guy said the same thing I said.
            they are investigating her email server and it’s security.

            YOUR JOB was to link me to some FBI guys saying the words, WE are investigating Hillary clinton.
            Cause for some reason they always say either her “emails” or her server in the same sentence to “qualify it”.

          7. BTeboe says

            You believe what you want stupid.

          8. BTeboe says

            Perhaps you were unaware Stupid, that the FBI does not discuss ongoing investigations. Evidently you’ve never been involved in any form of law enforcement.

          9. Reality Check says

            SO, how exactly are you cons so convinced that SHE is the one going to jail , IF the FBI does not talk about IT?

            kind of proved you cons are making shit UP.

          10. BTeboe says

            I’m not going to go into my background on a public forum, but HilLIARy is not the only person the FBI is looking at. There’s going to be a few people in the State Dept who are probably looking for some country that doesn’t honor extraditions.

          11. Reality Check says

            oh cool. the sooner the better.
            Trey goudy maybe?
            he has the same emails on his server, right?

            Bernie is going to win anyway.

            you cons are barking up the wrong tree (as usual)

          12. Reality Check says

            “I’m not going to go into my background on a public forum”

            I see, so YOU have secret info.
            sure silly human.

          13. BTeboe says

            You don’t assign me jobs. Where you got that idea is beyond me. Goober, do your own homework.

          14. Reality Check says

            “Also your articles are just a tad outdated.”

            my article is a week old moron.

            even the right wing nut jobs add the word email or server.
            lest they get sued for slander I suspect.

          15. BTeboe says

            Stupid, stupid stupid reality check is probably the most stupid person on the planet. Stupid stupid stupid stupid. What’s the matter, you don’t understand English. You are one brain dead individual. Why don’t you read the laws and then get back to me. I could care less what some talking head has to say. You are a fence post.

          16. Reality Check says

            speaking of the law, does the fool think Hillary does not have some lawyers that have looked into her “viability”.
            you think the wall street billionaires who funded her pac, haven’t looked into the conservative “witch hunt” and decided to keep spending?
            How is that Benghazi investigation coming along.
            they seem to have shut up since the 11 hour grilling that made Hillary look good and the GOP look like idiots.

          17. BTeboe says

            It did no such thing. It just proved the HilLIAry was living up to her name. She also lied about what she told the families of the murdered people. She is a liar LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR – a little bit like you.

          18. Reality Check says

            so now you go off on a new tangent?

            the GOP darling lies constantly.
            that does not seem to bother cons at all.

          19. BTeboe says

            Why would I bother to read anything you provide a link for. It’s probably mostly spam and viruses.

          20. Reality Check says

            oh, so this is the con admitting he just MADE SHIT UP.

            good job there fool of the right wing.

            ya, The Hill, is a spam site that the GOP quote.
            And you are proving yourself less intelligent with every post.

            a few more Liar, Liar,Liar would probably seal the deal down at moron.

          21. Reality Check says

            PS.my mom is 90 and lives with me and my wife.
            I attached her a nice little granny flat to my house.

          22. BTeboe says

            Sure you did.

          23. Krampus says

            Sucking that camels ass still I see. That loser lorreta lynch has been backed into a corner by Congress and now she can’t get out of turning a blind eye any more. I can’t wait till TRUMP sticks all your hero’s in GITMO on DEATH ROW for their treasonous acts AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Then you will probably cry into your mommy’s skirt even more and then go hang yourself for being so stupid to believe all their bullshit. It’s all out there so learn how to comprehend the facts and stop sucking on that camels ass it won’t save you in the end but it will leave a really shitty taste in your mouth

          24. Reality Check says

            “I can’t wait till TRUMP sticks all your hero’s in GITMO on DEATH ROW for
            their treasonous acts AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

            more proof you are a blabbering idiot.

          25. Krampus says

            What a complete idiot. Can’t think of anything to say so you just repeat what is said and you call me blabbering? Grow up move out of mommy and daddy’s basement and get a life and while your at it quit abusing your parents you sick piece of shit. Stop sucking that camel jockey off and get a job you low class waste of flesh

          26. Reality Check says

            see fool, that is called “quoting”

            I QUOTE YOU and then I either prove your wrong (and idiot) or
            add biting commentary.

          27. Krampus says

            Well for starters you dumb bastard when you ” QUOTE” somebody you use quotation marks and 2nd I am still waiting for your dumb ass to “prove me wrong” or ” add biting commentary”. Your a child and just need to go back to the sand box and finish gorging yourself with those huge Tootsie rolls. Better known as cat shit. Nobody likes you or finds your demofag crap entertaining. Humorous yes but not even close to any kind of intelligence to it at all. You must have a 10 year old talking for you and if the law finds out your within 1000 feet of a child then back to prison and ass kicking you go. Why don’t you go back to sniffing that skanky bitch kilaries ass where you belong. Fucking dumb ass DEMOFAGS should not be allowed to breathe or bread. There are enough mentally challenged people with out you making more. Your dad should have gotten a blow job but wound up with a disappointment instead….

          28. Reality Check says

            you know,
            that post make

        2. Krampus says

          He has the FBI murdering people in burns Oregon in cold blood along with the sherrif and a judge conspiring to commit MURDER with the fbi

          1. Reality Check says

            that’s right EVERYBODY is against you conservative fools.
            the government, the cops, the military.

            everybody!

            God you people are just LOW functioning.
            are you able to feed and dress yourself?

          2. MAHB001 says

            Just the Government,

            The cops and the military hate liberals….

          3. mac12sam12 says

            Coming from a big government loon who wants the government to control every aspect of his life. The left feels that you’re too stupid to dress and feed yourself low functioning derp derp

          4. Reality Check says

            “who wants the government to control every aspect of his life.”

            why do cons SAY the STUPIDEST THINGS?

          5. BTeboe says

            You do. You want the govt to provide for your stupidness from cradle to grave. You love socialism and didn’t you proclaim you’re a Sanders supporter?

          6. Reality Check says

            well fool, Bernie is a Democratic Socialist just like America IS.

            Social Security is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicare is Democratic Socialism.

            Medicaid is Democratic Socialism

            Post Office are Democratic Socialism. (and in the Constitution)

            The US highway system is Democratic Socialism (and in the Constitution)

            our electric grid is Democratic Socialism

            Public Utilities are Democratic Socialism

            why are you so ignorant?
            could it be a brainwashed conservative?

          7. TAM44 says

            Pull your lips over your head a swallow you stupid idiot.

          8. Reality Check says

            so you are just desperate to make contact with me?

          9. BTeboe says

            Are you serious? You’ve probably got all kinds of diseases.

          10. BTeboe says

            You’re so low functioning you have to live with your mother. She changes your dirty diaper at least 4 times a day. In between fixing your meals, washing your clothes she goes to her job to pay for your Internet access. You’re quite a bloviating @$$ wipe aren’t you?

          11. Reality Check says

            the height of conservative intellect on display.

          12. Krampus says

            Tell me where you live and I will show your dumb ass if I can dress and feed myself. How does that sound. If I am so low functioning how is it I know and see the truth and you don’t? Oh wait it’s because your head is buried so far up obutthole’s ass you wouldn’t know the truth if he farted or shit all over your stupid demofag face

          13. Reality Check says

            “He has the FBI murdering people in burns Oregon”
            these are the word of a low info, low functioning con.

            watch the video old man.
            the MORON con reaches into his jacket instead of putting up his hand and got shot.

            just like those black kids the cops shot, right?

            why RUN if you are not breaking the law?

          14. Krampus says

            Your 1 ignorant piece of demofag shit. I live where all that shit went down. I know what happened. You just keep believing those FBI videos and sucking camel ass. They shot Finnicum LAVOHY in the leg 1 the ran around and shot him in the back off the head. They weren’t running you lmbecile they were going to meet with the sherrif who by the way set them up to be murdered. He not 1 time reached for a weapon as the only weapon he had was on his right hip and NOT IN HIS COAT. Which he didn’t reach there either. The innocent AMERICAN CITIZEN WAS BOLD FACED ASSINATED BY YOUR BELOVED FAG IN OFFICE. You keep on puffing on that camel shit in new York. You weren’t here you have no clue as to what is going on but you seem to know all and why is that? Because this corrupt muzrat loving piece of shit told you so. You are part of the problem this country is having so why don’t you pull your head out of their ass and stand up be a man and fight for the country that men and women have died fight for our freedom or just pack your shut and either move to MEXIRATSVILLE OR OVER TO MUZRATDOME. YOUR A TRUE IDIOT THAT BELEIVES EVERYTHING OVOMIT AND ALL HIS CRONIES SAY. WASTE IF FLESH. I BET YOU MOMMY IS REAL PROUD OF A TRAITOR SHE RAISED

          15. Reality Check says

            “You just keep believing those FBI videos”

            so the video is a fake and you know what happened in the middle of nowhere Oregon?

            so why didn’t they just off all 4 f them in the vehicle?
            no one to see.

            why do you think they had a helicopter filming IT.

            BECAUSE they know you FOOLS would MAKE UP POO.

      3. pineapple says

        Whoretta Lynch bring won’t bring charges, because Ovomit told her not to.

      4. TAM44 says

        Why do you keep defending this lying, disgusting repulsive, obnoxious, evil , vile, irresponsible, irrational, irritating, overbearing, hateful, heartless, self-centered, deceitful, corrupt, untrustworthy, narcissist, B—H killery clinton, are you a muff diver?

      5. The duck says

        Hey Al Capon was considered a criminal long before he was indicted. I think.

    2. Reality Check says

      the scary part,
      is just how brainwashed you cons ARE.

      1. Progressive Republican says

        And so willingly.

        1. ringostarr1 says

          Some washed up celebs are in the business of selling their autographs for big bucks, just bring in the item that you want them to autograph.

          If you bring him your little blue dress, Bill Clinton will happily stain it for you.

          1. pineapple says

            Bumper sticker: “Monica Lewinsky’s boyfriend’s wife for President.”

          2. Progressive Republican says

            I would have to use yours.

          3. BTeboe says

            What did you give yours to the Goodwill?

          4. Progressive Republican says

            Oooh, that was yours?

            My bad.

            Explains why the missus didn’t recognize it.

          5. BTeboe says

            No, I don’t own one thank you. Never have. But I see your closet is quite full of stained dresses. Maybe you should go back to Goodwill and see if yours is still hanging on the race.

          6. Progressive Republican says

            Now you’re just hallucinating again.

            Or lying.

            Again.

        2. ABO says

          He lacks the intellect to think for himself, like most liberals.

          1. Progressive Republican says

            You really think aztex7007 is a liberal?

            You get the prize:

      2. Jimmy Quick says

        And how braindead you pissants are.

      3. ABO says

        And of course you’re not brainwashed because there’s nothing there to wash.

    3. MAHB001 says

      Notice how Democrats plead stupidity rather than admit they are wrong?

      1. Deby says

        LOL, well they needn’t plead that outright-as it is a given with dems.

        1. The duck says

          Well of course its a given. Demos have wooden heads and keep knocking on them whenever they give an answer. We have a Pinocchio sitting behind our very expensive desk with his feet resting on it all stretched out nice and comfy.

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        2. Victor Orozco says

          What was it Winston Churchill said? “If you aren’t a liberal at twenty you have no heart. If you are still a liberal at forty you have no brain.”

          Great advice from a Englishman who also became an American. Unlike this woman who shouldn’t be allowed to call herself an American.

      2. ABO says

        The truth being that they are both stupid and wrong.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Nicely stated….

          1. ABO says

            Thank you, MAHB001, coming from you it is greatly appreciated.

    4. sharolinethomas says

      ….

  11. apzzyk says

    I began programming on an IBM 1401 – 8 K, and have programmed for 50 years, but nearly all of my actual experience was on main frames – mostly IBMs, but on other platforms as well, and the company were I was working in about 1982, Citi, bought its first IBM PC-AT – 2 floppy drives, w/dot matrix printer and color monitor for about $10K with software, so I have seen a lot of change. I just updated to Windows 10 from Windows 8 a couple of weeks ago and there is a learning curve, and the 14 yo twins who live next door have aged-out of being able to help me any more. These things are obsolete before we get them out of the store. I also did my 4 in the USMC as an electrionics tech – where can I buy vacuum tubes?
    One of the things that I learned working as a dp contractor for several agencies, is that most do not have their own computer staffs, except to handle putting paper in a printer, and removing it from the printer and putting the output into a pigeon hole. They hire people who are really up on the tech at the time to teach govt employees. Secretaries of the various departments are probably as tech illiterate as most of the readers of this post – they hire specialists, and I doubt that any executive in any business is much more than a ‘user’ of the technology. We are well past the days of storing data on paper tape, punch cards or even magnetic tape, or the hard drives that we had to store NASA data on during maned space flights. My not so good old days.
    I doubt that during the Space Program that any President actually knew how to program so that the returning capsule or whatever would neither bounce off or burn up in the Earth’s Atmosphere – that is why they hired people like me.

    1. Jimmy Quick says

      So, how many circles around the planet are you gonna type before you finally make a point?

      1. Reality Check says

        I will simplify his answer for the low functioning con.

        You DON’T need to be tech savvy to be President.

        1. pineapple says

          But you should have an IQ above that of a small rock.

          1. Reality Check says

            but somehow you survived.

        2. Jimmy Quick says

          Right, we get it. You don’t have to be honest, patriotic, brave. Hell, the way you libs think, you don’t even have to be a citizen, right?

          Being president is just a do nothing job… all you gotta do is golf, so what’s the big?

    2. kbfallon says

      So it looks to be you are still using DOS….?

    3. RMCSRET says

      Seems that you worked for some very different companies than I did. I have seen the Requirements
      for various jobs within and outside the Government and pretty much all of them seemed to have
      pretty stiff requirements for different Software packages and machines. Some required MAC
      specific stuff, Some required PC stuff and others required multiple things. So once again Ive not
      seen what you are talking about.

      1. Reality Check says

        The Secretary of State job, does not require computer skills, low info con.

        Drones are required to have computer skills.

        1. RMCSRET says

          So another check mark for STUPID. I guess you really have her on a role for
          being so stupid in the modern world. Can she Write or Print her name?

    4. swann2001 says

      You must be really behind the times still. So unless I am mistaken you are trying to make excuses for Hillary, that she had to be the equivalent of a programmer for her to send and receive emails? Thank you for your service but Hillary is a lying morally corrupt woman who will do anything, say anything and lie about anything to anyone, if we will just let her be President. Both her and Obama worshiped at the feet of Saul Alinsky and both have embraced Communism over Democracy and Freedom. She has said if she becomes President the Second Amendment will be done away with. Obama is even now pushing as hard as he dares for the same thing. That is how Dictatorships arise. Disarm your potential adversaries and then you can do whatever you please without fear. Little Senator Chuckie Schumer was caught giving a speech were he said the Constitution is now whatever we say it is. Are these really the people you want to lead us? If it is you are no better than person who enjoys being told what to do by people who think they are so much better than you that you are dirt under their feet. We have let them get away with so many things over the years, like the Clinton’s they are not are servants they are our masters, or will be if you let them.

      1. Reality Check says

        “Both her and Obama worshiped at the feet of Saul Alinsky and both have embraced Communism”

        well, NOW we KNOW you are a complete IDIOT.

        1. pineapple says

          Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today…….

          Recall that Hillary did her college thesis on his writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

          Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
          Education: University of Chicago
          Spouse: Irene Alinsky
          Books: Rules for Radicals, Reveille for Radicals

          Anyone out there think that this stuff isn’t happening today in the U.S.?

          All eight rules are currently in play

          How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:

          There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

          1) Healthcare = Control healthcare and you control the people

          2) Poverty = Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

          3) Debt = Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

          4) Gun Control = Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

          5) Welfare = Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

          6) Education = Take control of what people read and listen to “take control of what children learn in school”.

          7) Religion = Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

          8) Class Warfare = Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

          Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

          Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin’s original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as “Useful Idiots.” The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

          If people can read this and still say everything is just fine…they are useful idiots.

          1. Reality Check says
          2. Reality Check says

            Saul Alinsky describes 24 rules in Rules for Radicals. Of those 24 rules, 13 are rules of “power tactics”:

            1. “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

            2. “Never go outside the experience of your people.”

            3. “Wherever possible go outside of the experience of the enemy.”

            4. “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.”

            5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

            6. “A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.”

            7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

            8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

            9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

            10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

            11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.”

            12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

            13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

            The remaining 11 rules Alinsky describes are concerned with “the ethics of means and ends”:

            1. “One’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s personal interest in the issue … Accompanying this rule is the parallel one that one’s concern with the ethics of means and ends varies inversely with one’s distance from the scene of conflict.”

            2. “[T]he judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.”

            3. “[I]n war the end justifies almost any means.”

            4. “[J]udgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.”

            5. “[C]oncern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.”

            6. “[T]he less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.”

            7. “[G]enerally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.”

            8. “[T]he morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.”

            9. “[A]ny effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.”

            10. “[Y]ou do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.”

            11. “[G]oals must be phrased in general terms like ‘Liberty, Equality, Fraternity,’ ‘Of the Common Welfare,’ ‘Pursuit of Happiness,’ or ‘Bread and Peace.’”

            http://matthewvadum.blogspot.com/p/saul-alinskys-24-rules-for-radicals.html

            STOP LYING

  12. pabritt says

    This is what kids do when they are guilty, not someone holding a top official job for the nation. If she is that dumb she certainly doesn’t qualify to run for presidency, Really! Can you imagine how dangerous she would be running our country. This is a real concern that someone isn’t taking serious enough and its going to cost the citizens more problems than imaginable.

    1. pineapple says

      “its going to cost the citizens more problems than imaginable.”

      More Benghazis.

      1. Reality Check says

        the Benghazi’s that SEVEN GOP lead investigations proved she did “no wrong doing”

        1. Deby says

          umm, no, no they didn’t actually. more garbage from your buddies in the msm.

          1. Reality Check says

            you are so ILL Informed old man.
            “Republican-led report debunks Benghazi theories and accusations”

            http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/benghazi-attack-report/

            “Republicans Leveled By Bombshell Report That Clears Hillary Clinton On Benghazi”

            http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/19/republicans-leveled-bombshell-report-clears-hillary-clinton-benghazi.html

            “GOP panel on Benghazi finds no Obama administration wrongdoing”

            http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-house-benghazi-20141123-story.html

            so link me to of YOUR SOURCES old man.

          2. pineapple says

            Try reading “13 Hours” by Mitchell Zukoff.

          3. Reality Check says

            right, so we are going with the fiction writer, not the 7 GOP investigations.

            How silly are you people?

  13. Reality Check says

    “Clinton’s Technological Ignorance is a Problem”

    Well,
    the Right GETS DESPERATE

  14. Tiredofsocializm says

    Nonsence! This lieing grifter named Hillary Clinton has admitted that she used her personal email server “for her convenience”! Her ass belongs in jail!

    1. Reality Check says

      except that THAT is not against the law, silly con.

      1. LIEberalschism says

        It’s not against the law to use personal resources to transmit classified material? Really reality?

        1. Reality Check says

          really

          they were NOT classified at the time, low info voter.

          1. LIEberalschism says

            Oh! So the FBI just conveniently added SAP to the emails after the fact? You need to recalibrate your dipstick, it seems to be picking up some erroneous readings.

          2. Reality Check says

            there are way more agencies than the FBI that deal in Top Secret.

          3. LIEberalschism says

            Really reality? No kidding. Woooweee

          4. Reality Check says

            well YOU are the moron who said the FBI was adding them, so….

            don’t you think keeping your mouth shut would have made you appear smarter?

          5. LIEberalschism says

            Hey Gass bag either quote me right or don’t quote me at all.
            “Oh! So the FBI just conveniently added SAP to the emails after the fact? You need to recalibrate your dipstick, it seems to be picking up some erroneous readings.”
            See that question mark (?) after “the fact”.
            Do you think that if you stood up straight and took your hands off your talking but cheeks it would make you appear smarter ?

          6. Deby says

            seriously RC, you are out of your liberal league now-regurgitating talking point excuses from the paid for MSM-talk about “low information” –that would be YOU.

          7. Reality Check says

            still the only one posting links

  15. MarcJ says

    FBI reports to AG Lynch and she reports to B. Hussein Obama who was promised a seat on the Supreme Court by the wife of that impeached disbarred felon Bill Clinton for nullifying all those nasty investigations by the far-right Republicans.

    1. Reality Check says

      you silly humans have a conspiracy theory for every occasion.

      1. Deby says

        Prove it then silly lib– I dare you

        1. Reality Check says

          well since this “scandal” has been going on for 16 months, we have the makings of a conspiracy theory.

          they are hard to prove until a point in time has passed.
          like when Hillary becomes president.

          My favorite right wing conspiracy is last fall when Obama was going to kill off American population with Ebola, and form his Muslim caliphate.

          shall I link you some to the right wing stories?

          Now in reality, IF Obama wanted to destroy America, THAT would have been the way to do IT.
          AND easy to get away with.

          1. Progressive Republican says

            Oooh, don’t fergit how he’s been a-comin’ t’git are guhnz fer nigh on seven years now!

          2. Deby says

            Not a shred of proof/facts whatsoever in that post-just the usual “nothing to see here folks- except a vast right-wing conspiracy” smoke and mirrors routine. You have not proven whatever point you think you have, nor will you It is you who will be proven wrong in November-so start packing your bags for the Middle East, where they will welcome you with open arms, unless you are gay that is. Boom

          3. Reality Check says
          4. Reality Check says

            “Laurie Roth: Obama Allowing ISIS To Send Ebola Patients To US So He Can Use Fake Vaccines To Track People”
            http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/laurie-roth-obama-allowing-isis-send-ebola-patients-us-so-he-can-use-fake-vaccines-track-peo#sthash.PgMNt4lo.dpuf

          5. Reality Check says

            For one right-winger, though, the infected man’s travels to the United States were not mere happenstance. According to him, Obama plotted the whole thing to infect the entire nation with a deadly disease because he really hates white people and wants Americans to suffer like those in the third-world.

            “This entire government is geared up to fight a war against white people,” radio host Michael Savage said earlier, explaining his convoluted theory. “What if a group of white people had rioted or does riot in America after Obama grants amnesty? What if they loot and they burn? You know and I know the attorney general is not going to come out and say, ‘I feel your pain.’”

            Now, he has said that the man who has Ebola is proof that his theory about treasonous, white-hating Obama is right.

            According to Savage, Obama “wants to infect the nation with Ebola” and that is why he sent U.S. troops to West Africa.

            He also said that Obama’s goal is to make white people suffer just like those that suffer in third-world countries because that’s how all the leftist liberals think.

            http://issuehawk.com/tamar/2014/10/02/really-right-winger-says-texas-ebola-patient-is-proof-obama-has-conspiracy-to-infect-america-and-kill-white-people.html#3GLZtEzT5dBYFDWa.99

          6. Deby says

            say what? this is so not the topic-where are you going with this rant? No don’t answer that..please?

          7. Reality Check says

            that was ME demonstrating the silly conspiracy theories you low functioning humans listen to.

          8. Reality Check says

            “It is you who will be proven wrong in November-so start packing your bags for the Middle East”

            SO, everyone smarter than YOU is a Muslim from the Middle east?
            that is sad, cause they are not too bright either.

          9. Deby says

            LOL what a dolt you are-I never said nor insinuated you may be a muslim-just that you seem to favor the ideology of the Middle East better than American values. Your socialist bent gave you away. And really, you give yourself waaaay too much credit in the intelligence dept.! from the crap you post, I would put your IQ at around 75 or so, and believe me, that is generous. Now go play with the other dolts on a different website.

          10. pineapple says

            “I would put your IQ at around 75 or so, and believe me, that is generous.”

            You left off the minus sign. His IQ should have been -75.

          11. Reality Check says

            “-just that you seem to favor the ideology of the Middle East better than American values”

            No Deby I much prefer America and it’s freedoms.
            I also HATE liars.
            which you people do about Muslims and my country.

            I lived in several countries and know first hand, Islam is NOT the problem.
            Terrorist are.

            the hysteria you people have for something with less of a chance of happening than getting hit by lightning, is a bit disturbing.

          12. LIEberalschism says

            How about the conspiracy from the FBI that the CIA was named in hillary’s emails for having an assassination list on American citizens including one of your democratic darlings, Elizabeth Warren. And don’t tell me you didn’t hear about it.

          13. Reality Check says

            sorry fool, I have not heard that and I DO spend a lot of time around you idiots,so…

            you too low functioning to link to it?

          14. Deby says

            haha, apparently YOU are though…

      2. LIEberalschism says

        You silly reality chickens deny conspiracies for every occasion.

  16. Robin says

    Are you kidding? She knows perfectly well how to “do emails”! That is pure bull!!! I’m sure if she didn’t know, there was somebody to show her. It would take all of 5 seconds. Her daughter could’ve shown her, if she was too embarrassed to ask a colleague. I’m not buying any of it. Another lie, on top of another lie, etc.

    1. Progressive Republican says

      You do realize that the memo was from 2009, right?

      1. Robin says

        Yeah, I can read. What difference does it make when it was? She is still a liar, what’s your point?

        1. Progressive Republican says

          It looked like you were conflating the past with the present.

          1. pineapple says

            Once a liar, always a liar.

          2. Reality Check says

            Pretty funny from the fruit that LIES constantly.

          3. LIEberalschism says

            Pretty funny from the fruit that uses his dipstick to check reality..

          4. Reality Check says

            Ah, the intellect of the right wing, on display for all to see.

          5. LIEberalschism says

            Oh yeah. Like nobody hasn’t already noticed the constant stream of ignorance you display every time you come onto one of these discussion forums.
            You sure love to dish it out but taking it is a real problem for you.

          6. Reality Check says

            Bathroom humor posts are the specialty of the low functioning right wing

          7. LIEberalschism says

            Calling pineapple a fruit is hardly intelligent humor. But you love to dish it out.

          8. Reality Check says

            A Pineapple is not a fruit?
            so in the conservative encyclopedia, it is what?

          9. LIEberalschism says

            Dont play coy, boy. You’re a real woger wabbit.

          10. Deby says

            Breathe it in silly libbie-might take up some of the space in that pointy little head of yours-doubtful, but heck, worth a try.

          11. Robin says

            In Hillary’s case, the past is the present, and the present is the past. Corruption everywhere you look. No “conflating” necessary.

          12. Progressive Republican says

            So you;re saying she’s a Republican?

            Maybe like the ones of my childhood, but certainly not now. They’re even farther to the right than she.

          13. Robin says

            What?? I don’t know how you figure that, but I said nothing of the kind. Anyway, I’m not wasting my time debating back and forth with you.

          14. Progressive Republican says

            You said, “In Hillary’s case, the past is the present, and the present is the past. Corruption everywhere you look.

            There is not one Republican holding office that fails to describe, yet you said it described Hillary. Ergo you have described her as a Republican.

            Duh.

            ‘Bye.

          15. Robin says

            Excuse me? Hillary Clinton is the one being investigated for criminal behavior. Is there anybody else running for the presidency that is under investigation by the FBI, against the very nation they hope to lead? And, has been investigated, or under suspicious for numerous crimes since first entering the national stage decades ago? So, let me reinterate,

            ” The past is the present, and the present is the past. Corruption everywhere you look”.

      2. pineapple says

        Thanks to Hillary Clinton, Russia now controls 20% of the uranium produced in the U.S. Russia is also providing uranium to Iran. Obama lifted sanctions on Iran and freed up billions of dollars to Iran so they can continue to develop nuclear weapons and long range missiles.

        For more details on this, Google “Hillary uranium sale”, and you will see how she violated U.S. law to complete the sale which enriched the Clinton foundation.

        1. Reality Check says

          “At the time of the sale, Clinton was a member of the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States, which is required by law to investigate all U.S. transactions that involve a company owned or controlled by a foreign government. Federal guidelines say any one of nine voting members of the committee can object to such a foreign transaction, but the final decision then rests with the president.

          “Only the President has the authority to suspend or prohibit a covered transaction,” the guidelines say.”

          http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

          Gee pineapple, I didn’t see how she broke US law.
          Maybe the con can BE SPECIFIC?

          I do SEE how you fools of Right Wing Propaganda constantly LIE.

          I await your LINKS of rebuttal.

        2. Progressive Republican says

          Nice non sequitur there.

        3. Reality Check says

          So pineapple,
          NO comeback after I PROVE you are a LYING POS?

          1. pineapple says

            Did you Google the article I told you to? Did you read it? Did you understand it? The answer to all of these questions is obviously no, because you are a lazy, liberal POS who doesn’t know schitt from shoe polish, and that is why your shoes are never shiny.

            I excerpted part of the article for your lazy ass. In case you need more details, Google “Hillary uranium deal”, and LEARN SOMETHING before you sound off with B.S!

            Amid this influx of Uranium One-connected money, Mr. Clinton was invited to speak in Moscow in June 2010, the same month Rosatom struck its deal for a majority stake in Uranium One.

            The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that has invited world leaders, including Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, to speak at its investor conferences.
            Photo
            John Christensen sold the mining rights on his ranch in Wyoming to Uranium One. Credit Matthew Staver for The New York Times

            Renaissance Capital analysts talked up Uranium One’s stock, assigning it a “buy” rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets. In addition, Renaissance Capital turned up that same year as a major donor, along with Mr. Giustra and several companies linked to Uranium One or UrAsia, to a small medical charity in Colorado run by a friend of Mr. Giustra’s. In a newsletter to supporters, the friend credited Mr. Giustra with helping get donations from “businesses around the world.”

            Renaissance Capital would not comment on the genesis of Mr. Clinton’s speech to an audience that included leading Russian officials, or on whether it was connected to the Rosatom deal. According to a Russian government news service, Mr. Putin personally thanked Mr. Clinton for speaking.

            A person with knowledge of the Clinton Foundation’s fund-raising operation, who requested anonymity to speak candidly about it, said that for many people, the hope is that money will in fact buy influence: “Why do you think they are doing it — because they love them?” But whether it actually does is another question. And in this case, there were broader geopolitical pressures that likely came into play as the United States considered whether to approve the Rosatom-Uranium One deal.

  17. Debbie says

    If you believe that I have an Island would love to sell you.

  18. MAHB001 says

    Clinton’s eyes were crossing last night during her first acceptance speech.

    My theory is alien control.

    1. Deby says

      maybe tequila?

      1. MAHB001 says

        That is just the anesthetic.

    2. LIEberalschism says

      Space barf. Aliens would draw straws to try to get out of having to probe her.
      “I’m not touching it, you do it”
      “Hey mikey”
      “Yeah, mikey will probe it, he’ll probe anything”

  19. Ralph H Moran says

    Obama will give her a full presidential pardon and she will never see even a pair of handcuffs.