Come On, NeverTrumpers: You Can Admit That You Were Wrong

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No matter what the liberal media says, President Trump’s first year has been a hell of a ride. And while we don’t expect many on the left will come around to seeing Trump for the great leader that he turned out to be (since much of what he’s accomplished is diametrically opposite to their nation-killing agenda) we do wonder what some of the biggest NeverTrumpers of the 2016 election are thinking these days. Because if you’re a conservative of any kind, how could you not be doing cartwheels about Trump’s first year in office?

Remember, these people – your David Frums, your Bill Kristols, your George Wills, and your Evan McMullins (to name but a few) – didn’t just want someone else to win the Republican nomination. When they said they were on the “Never Trump” team, they damn well meant it. And they clung to that line even when it was down to Trump and Clinton. Literally, they wanted to see HILLARY CLINTON be President of the United States, so inflexible was their opposition to Trump. And yes, you can include McMullin in that category even though he mounted his own local run for president. He knew he was, at best, acting as a spoiler for Hillary.

We don’t know what these jackasses were thinking at the time, but we KNOW they can’t be so blind as to miss how much better off we are that they didn’t get their way. Sure, they may still be turned off by Trump’s mini-feuds with LaVar Ball and CNN, uncomfortable with some of his overtures to Putin, and irritated at the “disrespect” he’s shown to his fellow Republicans in Congress, but can they honestly say he didn’t deliver? Can they honestly say that it wasn’t worth it? Just think about all of the things that Trump accomplished – things that would have NEVER happened had Hillary won the election.

Things like: A conservative Supreme Court Justice confirmed to replace Antonin Scalia, the demise of the Obamacare individual mandate, a massive tax cut bill that will have enormous repercussions on the economy for years to come, the destruction of ISIS, a slate of conservative judges confirmed to district courts across the country, a move towards a sensible vetting process for U.S. visitors from dangerous terrorist havens, the end of our involvement in the Paris Agreement, and much, much more.

And we’re just getting started! This is only Trump’s first year!

Not only must this list of accomplishments make the NeverTrumpers feel absolutely foolish, it doesn’t even account for the many things we AVOIDED by keeping Clinton out of office. There’s literally no telling what kind of bizarre liberal agenda she would have shoved through Congress, especially if the Democrats had taken control of Capitol Hill on the tails of her victory.

We doubt we’ll ever see the majority of these NeverTrumpers admit they were wrong, but it’s solace enough to know that they were…and to know that THEY know they were. Because they do. These aren’t dumb people. They see what Trump has done and they know that Hillary would have been a disaster. And they know they backed the wrong horse in 2016.

Perhaps some of them will own up to their mistake. Eventually.

 

664 Comments
  1. Bill O'Neil says

    Oh yes, lets do cartwheels over tRump’s only accomplishment, his tax scam bill that will line his pockets and the pockets of the billionaires and giant corporations, while leaving breadcrumbs for the little guys, which will expire and turn into tax increases a few years down the road.

    1. Retired says

      That was Clinton and Obama with their banker friends sticking it to the elderly with .01interes . Obama and his big raises to the elderly on SS . Obama and You can keep your insurance and Dr. . Obama and his ACA tax plus mandatory insurance .

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        You just proved that you can’t refute what I said about tRump’s tax scam bill!!!

        1. Retired says

          So are you also mrpoobrain ,or are you stealing his words . You like the media did not read the Bill ,so both of you have no clue as to what is in there . Will it turn out to be like the failed ACA ,I doubt it . Is there Pork more than likely as that is the only way bills have gotten passed for decades .

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            You can pretend all you want that you don’t know the main points of the tax scam bill. You aren’t fooling anybody but yourself. The points I laid out in my original comment are the truth, but you can continue to hide under a rock and deny it . Denying the truth is what you right-wingers do best.

          2. Freddie Freeloader says

            You didn’t mention any points, there or anywhere, doe turd!! Your so-called tax increases down the road are only because of demonicrats and stupid Senate rules!! Why don’t you ask your jackass demonicrats to keep them from expiring??

          3. Bill O'Neil says

            I see you don’t know how to read.

          4. Freddie Freeloader says

            Go change your depends lil billy;-)

          5. bill14729 . says

            You do need to move to Mexico

          6. gotabgood says
          7. Freddie Freeloader says

            Try using up to date information, I know it’s hard for you LiBitcherals but do try;-)http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-left-is-wrong-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-benefits-the-middle-class/article/2643870

          8. gotabgood says

            Even though I can’t stand your attitude… I think you are a complete asshole…. I do thank you for your references…. but after throwing up a bit in my mouth.. I will read later…
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2ab8fbdd95727f076d9b292fcaa95f305cb77a2148cdd5aef5dc0d1f7ad672a.gif

          9. Freddie Freeloader says

            Yeah, it’s all about my attitude, I’m right you’re wrong and you are the one getting the attitude adjustment!!!

          10. gotabgood says

            By the way Jackass who has control of congress? Control of senate? Control of WH? Control of SCOTUS? and your little pea brain thinks it is the Democrats fault for the expiration?

          11. Freddie Freeloader says

            It’s called the Byrd Rule because of the jackass Robert KKK Sheets Byrd, you know that Demonicrat that Cankles loves to kiss!!! https://taxfoundation.org/permanent-corporate-rate-cut-temporary-individual-tax-cut/
            Yes ladies and gentlemen here she is kissing the KKK Byrd man…
            https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/25/hillary-clinton-friend-mentor-robert-byrd-kkk/amp/?client=ms-android-att-aio-us Tell me I’m wrong now doe turd!!

          12. gotabgood says

            As for your KKK David Duke (KKK), the Nazi. the White Supremacist, they all have Trumps back along with Scalise.
            As for Hillary, you do not know the circumstances, maybe he said, “Happy Birthday”.
            Lay your lies aside.. you stick up for Trump, so I know you lie.
            Put aside you alternative facts.
            Speculation might be good in the stock market, if you can afford to lose it, but not in any conversation.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ada6803448b28a78cd9c82a09adf82a9ba327c487c0758885435ad3a73d2859.jpg

          13. Freddie Freeloader says

            Here’s the KKK supporting Cankles.
            https://www.infowars.com/kkk-grand-dragon-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/ Let’s be real though, who really cares who they support, they’re loons!!

          14. Retired says

            But those are your friends !!!

          15. Retired says

            We won’t know the truth of the Bill until 2018 tax season , if you saw the thickness of the bill almost the size of the ACA . Unless you actually read the whole bill ,you are running off at the mouth just like the media .

          16. Bill O'Neil says

            Just keep pretending that you are deaf, dumb, and blind. That’s what tRump cult members do when you can’t defend your agenda.

          17. Retired says

            You just described yourself , the only agenda is to clean the streets of its trash and bring law and order back to the USA . You seem to have a problem with that .

          18. David in MA says

            Do you believe hag Hillary was the better choice?

          19. Bill O'Neil says

            A homeless person off the street would have been a better choice.

          20. David in MA says

            I agree.

          21. ABO says

            Well done David. He really is a pathetic dimwit isn’t he? Walked right into that one.

          22. Bill O'Neil says

            I’m glad you agree.

          23. ABO says

            Why didn’t you run?

        2. Robert says

          Hey Billie boy,just last night your Mother was telling me how disappointed she is with you while she was on her knees servicing me!!

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            Typical low-life response from a maggot eating gutter rat.

        3. Sean Thornton says

          What facts are you talking about? Is “tax scam” a fact? “Lining his pockets?” “Breadcrumbs for little guys?” Wow, deeply analytical and irrefutable, Bill! Here’s what I know:
          1. The rates could be permanent if the dems had supported the cuts (news alert: they think it’s their money)
          2. Over 80% of taxpayers will see their tax bills go down. Since the wealthy pay most of the tax (70% of dollars are paid by top 10% of earners), they will see more benefit in raw dollars. But hey, that talking point has worked for years on establishment republicans, so I don’t blame you for trying.
          3. It’s not Trump’s fault, or the fault of taxpayers in smaller, red states, that dems have run the blue states into the ground. Part of the brilliance of this law is that it puts pressure back on those states to become more efficient, which should be good for them (though unlikely dems will respond that way – hmmm, maybe elect fiscal conservatives to fix that?)
          4. Lower rates generally increase revenues to the govt. Kind of a “win/win,” which leaves me wondering, what are the dems really up to?
          5. Global warming/climate change/cooling is far from a scientific fact. (Oops. That was Chucky’s point, but still worth mentioning. I’m guessing you are a climate alarmist, too.)
          Like most libs, Bill, what you call facts are whatever suits your agenda. Leave the dark side and join us in the real resistance – the one where govt no longer runs our lives. Happy holidays!

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            You deplorables never learn. You just keep promoting the failed “voodoo economics” of ‘trickle down economics’. Your failure to learn from history is obvious. If you want to live in a country without government get yourself a one way ticket to Somalia.

          2. Sean Thornton says

            Wow. Another detailed factual analysis from Bill. You really took apart my argument with that reply!

          3. Bill O'Neil says

            Glad to see you finally saw the light.

    2. Tom Johnson says

      I am one of your “little guys” my taxes are decreasing!

      1. jimmy midnight says

        So grateful R U 4 the pathetic crumbs that fall off their groaning board! Your cluelessness also evokes a groan.

    3. SNUFFER says

      everything was going fairly well until i got to this entry!!

  2. chucky001 says

    The idiot who wrote this article thinks that the Trumpster had many positive accomplishments. Well they are accomplishments if you are of the opinion that it’s OK to buy politicians, science does not matter, the rich must benefit at all costs, our most vunerable citizens don’t matter, and it’s OK to abuse women and children as long as you’re a conservative and you support a far-right agenda. Tweety is NOT a great leader. A great leader does not have a 30% approval rating. A great leader unites, not divides. A great leader does not denegrate those who put their lives on the line to protect us, like the FBI and CIA. A great leader does not obstruct investigations into Russian meddling. A great leader does not sabotage healthcare in the name of ideology. And a great leader does not contradict his own team with goofy tweets. I can see Dolt45’s supporters interrupting thier circle jerk and gearing up to excoriate me, but it can’t be because of the facts. It must be because they drool over 70 year-old orange ball sack.

    1. Retired says

      Did you fart something ,how were the lumps . Better be careful so you might choke on them ,

    2. Freddie Freeloader says

      Hey Upchuky!! Doe turd much??

    3. gotabgood says

      Well said!

    4. Robert says

      Hey chucky cheese,it’s idiots like you that breath my oxygen!!

    5. paulrph1 says

      A great leader corrects his own team when they are wrong. A great leader does not get their talking points from CNN. A great leader does not pretend to be someone he is not nor lie to the people with every breath they take. A great leader does not marry a tranney and pretend to be normal. A great leader does not belong to Soros. A great leader does not yield to nonsense. A great leader does not sell our uranium to Russia. A great leader does not give billions of dollars to our enemies (Iran), help them to build bombs that will destroy us. A great leader protects our people in Benghazi. A great leader is everything that Obama was not.

      1. watchman48 says

        Thank you Paul, you have to realize those Obama lovers sold their souls to satan, just as Obama did… They may have eyes and ears but they neither see nor hear because satan has entered their hearts….

        1. cristoiglesia says

          Wake up! Hillary and Obama are irrelevant. Trump is the new leftist and chief. Do some research on his past which is entirely as a far left liberal Democrat. Trump is arguable the most far left liberal to ever hold the US Presidency who counts among his friends the Clinton’s, Soros’. Obama’s and not a single conservative Republican. Trump is the greatest danger in my lifetime to conservatism and the Republican party. As conservative Republicans we must oppose him and his leftist agenda at every opportunity. “Trumpism” as an ideology is simply Marxism in lipstick.

          1. watchman48 says

            Trump was by far our only choice against the democrats agendas of destroying USA at the time of the election…. If however he changes his direction that he has started then and only then would I look elsewhere…
            Nether Pres. Trump nor all of US military forces can save the USA from the destruction that is coming that is being held in reserve for us… USA will soon receive just what she deserves for having embraced the abominations of evolution, homosexuality, abortion and the rejection of God’s Holy Scriptures…
            We are told in the Bible how God allowed heathen nations to nearly destroy the Israelites seven times… God takes His warnings very seriously, for He has never allowed the destruction of a nation nor of it’s people before first sending His warnings hoping that the hearts of the people might turn to HIm…
            Thus, the night of January 22, 1997 the Holy Spirit whispered in my left ear saying, “I will repay USA double for her iniquities.”
            The fool says there is no God but then the fool has never truly searched for God.

          2. Rodney Dietz says

            If Trump is a Democrat, he’s a special kind of Democrat and I’m all for that! “Yes I would be seen to lean right”
            Nut job’s on the far right and Left Do Not Represent me nor do I ascribe to those extreme’s.
            The extreme’s are the real dangers and have no chance of compromise!

      2. cristoiglesia says

        When are you going to wake up and realize that the friends of Trump… Hillary and Obama, are irrelevant to this discussion as Trump is the new leftist and chief. I agree that a “great leader” does not belong to Soros which puts Trump outside of the possibility of being great since he eagerly received the 2 to 3 billion given to his campaign through Jared Kushner from Soros. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/05/03/peter-schweizer-kushners-failure-to-disclose-billion-dollar-ties-to-goldman-sachs-george-soros-is-massive-massive-problem/

      3. Robert Dostoevsky says

        It is sad to see someone resort to asinine comments about our previous first lady and think that they are contributing to the discussion about politics. It is also sad to see you are so misinformed about world events. For example, no uranium was sold to Russia and Benghazi was a tragedy but certainly not the fault of the president.
        The actions Obama took at the start of his administration helped prevent a complete meltdown of our economy.
        While I did not vote for Obama either time my reasons were political not bigoted.

        1. Rodney Dietz says

          It’s a fact that Uranium was sold to a group representing a Russian company/interest. “None of the parties are denying it”
          It’s a fact “by the very people on the ground” that Hilary delayed and denied assistance to Benghazi.
          It’s a fact that Obama added over 10 Trillion to the national debt with no economic gain or real jobs to show for it.
          Michelle Obama has put down all women who didn’t vote for Hilary and has an utter disdain for white people like her husband.
          After damaging a country as bad as Obama did, You should expect some angry people. Name calling is what you’re doing!

          1. Robert Dostoevsky says

            No uranium was sold, mining rights were sold, the uranium cannot be exported beyond the processing in Canada.
            You called Mrs. Obama a transsexual! You also said the president was not normal.
            I have read the Congressional reports on Benghazi and no one accused Clinton of delaying or denying assistance. Someone who purported to be on the ground was later discredited. Since the main attack occurred at the CIA annex there was no State Department responsibility.
            You blame Obama for damaging our country but fail to say how. If things were so bad he would not have been elected twice….but bigots overlook that.

          2. Rodney Dietz says

            Mining rights were not sold, cake uranium was sold and a Canadian trucking company reported some of the movement through Canada.

            I didn’t call Obama anything!

            Congressional reports? Oversight was deigned information by every organization involved. Whistle blowers gave information. Just like in the cases of corruption IRS, DOJ, FBI did not answer questions and Obama directed no leadership to cooperate.

            The only information came from CIA agents on the ground.

            You’re an imbecile if you believe the CIA Annex was the main attack. The Embassy was destroyed and Ambassador Stephens was killed, THEN the fight moved to Annex. I guess that part slipped your mind.

            It was not till many hours later that help came.

            Obama was elected twice, but I have a feeling we will see more about why/how in the coming months.

          3. ABO says

            Your assessment of Dostoevsky is entirely accurate and well stated, Rodney. He is indeed an imbecile and works hard at it. I just love how he claims to be a conservative while spouting a steady stream of canned liberal rhetoric.

          4. Robert Dostoevsky says

            You said Obama was married to a transsexual, I think that qualifies as saying something about him.
            You had better do more research about the Uranium One deal, it is about mining rights. These rights were previously held by a Canadian company.
            There were 13 hearings, 50 briefings and over 25000 pages of documents concerning Benghazi. Many, many persons testified including government officials including H. Clinton.
            I should have been clearer about the severity of the attacks. The attacks at the CIA annex were conducted by more heavy weapons including mortars. The first attack was more prolonged but consisted of mainly small arms fire, the damage and death of the Ambassador was caused by fires. I think you qualify as the imbecile since you are not aware that there was no Embassy in Benghazi.

          5. ABO says

            Oh no yet another of Dostoevsky’s childish tantrums that amount to nothing more than typical liberal/regressive blather. Nice work, Dimwit.

          6. Robert Dostoevsky says

            No uranium was sold! Mining rights were sold by a Canadian company to a Russian company. Since the mines are in the USA the sale required government approval.
            Are you saying that during the attack in Benghazi that H Clinton delayed and denied help or are you saying something else?
            Just how did Obama damage the country? If I recall the economy was a disaster at the start of his first term and greatly improving by the end. I still didn’t vote for him for a second term but a lot of others did. Unemployment was still high but trending down. The economy was still sluggish but improving. So just what was the damage you’re talking about?

        2. ABO says

          I swear Dostoevsky, if you had a brain you’d take it out and play with it. I’ll never understand how you can use up so many words and end up with a post full of nothing but idiotic drivel.

        3. paulrph1 says

          What is sad is that person does not check things out and believes the media and pretends everything is OK. As far as the first man, Michelle, goes I have seen video proof that is indisputable but believe as you want to. It was the selling of the Uranium by the SOS who ran for President but lost.
          And then they try to prove Trump won by Russia meddling which is now be exposed. Stay tuned…. And even better yet do some research. I am not the only one to made the claim on Michelle. Joan Rivers exposed her and it cost her her life. But I guess she was being bigoted.

          1. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Your tinfoil needs adjusting.

          2. paulrph1 says

            Can’t handle the truth like all liberals. Your comment means you lost. Just like the headlines of this article says.

    6. Dennis Key says

      Hey Chucky you treasonous bastard go to hell. You are part of the problem and we need to get rid of people like you get your head outta your ass prick love our country or leave our country

    7. cristoiglesia says

      Indeed, well said!

  3. marius aubert says

    Oh yes, lets do cartwheels over tRump’s only accomplishment, his tax scam bill that will line his pockets and the pockets of the billionaires and giant corporations, while leaving breadcrumbs for the little guys, which will expire and turn into tax increases a few years down the road.

    1. bill14729 . says

      Your so full of S__T

    2. Mathew Molk says

      Lining the pockets of everybody I know too. But then I only hang around with working people and other active and retired small business owners. But then you snowflakes wouldn’t know people that work for a living.

      Liberal logic,,,,it’s better to have high taxes all along then to have lower taxes if even for a few years.(and there is no garuntee the tax cut will not be extended or eve

  4. nick says

    Did you fart something ,how were the lumps . Better be careful so you might choke on them ,

  5. Norman says

    I admit. The NeverTrumpers were WRONG!

    1. Retired says

      They would rather starve than admit it .

      1. dennis w says

        FROM WHAT I’VE SEEN OF MANY OF THEM, THEY HAVEN’T MISSED TOO MANY MEALS…….THEY’RE AS WIDE AS THEY ARE HIGH…TOO MUCH FAT ON THEIR BRAINS…..THAT’S ASSUMING THEY HAVE BRAINS…….

        1. Retired says

          Requirement ,when joining the Democrat party is brain removal .

        2. ABO says

          Inaccurate assumption dennis..

    2. Will Higgins says

      This article was wrong, Trump isn’t solely responsible for anything good. It would have happened with Clinton to.

      1. dennis w says

        where ya been NORMY……check with you doctor…..YOUR MEDS NEED ADJUSTING…..

        1. Will Higgins says

          You could use actual facts and evidence to prove me wrong rather then just through petty insults?

      2. Carol says

        Where in the world did you get that notion?

        1. Will Higgins says

          Because the economy was improving, and Isis was falling before the election.

          1. Carol says

            Well now the economy is booming, stock market is up and ISIS is good as gone. Stock market reacts to optimism, never seen it so optimistic. Wouldn’t mind seeing a female President one day but Hillary wasn’t and isn’t a good choice. Just not a good person.

          2. Will Higgins says

            All that was happening before Trump took office.

          3. Carol says

            At a snails pace.

          4. Will Higgins says

            Not really when you think about it.

          5. ABO says

            And just what exactly would you know about the normal thought process Higgy?

          6. Will Higgins says

            More then you.

          7. ABO says

            Really? Explain your statement, Higgy.

          8. ABO says

            Tell us some more of those idiotic little stories of yours Higgy. They’re so incredibly stupid as to be actually hilarious and hence entertaining.

          9. Rodney Dietz says

            I agree Carol, would love to see a woman take a shot at it. My hope is she’s exceptional. I don’t want her to fail like Obummer. Worst President ever!

          10. Carol says

            She would have to be something special for sure. Wouldn’t want the first female to be a dud.

          11. Frank Taylor says

            Whatever you say Will. The liberal New York times even gives Trump credit along with our troops for the demise of ISIS. The economy now shines in comparison to the last year Obama was in office.

          12. Will Higgins says

            America hasn’t been that involved in the fight on Isis recently.

          13. ABO says

            And what planet have you been vacationing on lately Higgy???

          14. Rodney Dietz says

            Will..Do you not see the corruption that has followed that woman? The economy might have been improving in all the countries we give money to, but it was certainly not here! Please give us those statistics on the economy to back your claim! While your at it please show us the ones about how America was beating ISIS.

          15. Rodney Dietz says

            Huffer post is the most deliberate misleading an lying media I have ever seen. “Ask anyone here”
            “Realclear” forgot to quote Military sources that will tell you, changing the rules of engagement has made all the difference. Obama gave the appearance of action with out releasing the military to be effective.

            I understand now why you see it your way!

          16. ABO says

            Kinda follows that Higgy is a fan of HuffPo. Explains a lot.

          17. Will Higgins says

            Who ‘changed the rules of engagement’?

          18. ABO says

            As I said Higgy your ignorance is absolutely astounding.

      3. Mike with the Silver Star says

        Damn, you are living in a fantasy world…..I know a good therapist…

        1. Will Higgins says

          It hardcore Tumpeters who are in a alternat reality.

          1. ABO says

            Read back what you just posted and tell me you aren’t living in an alternate reality Higgy. I mean really now…

          2. Will Higgins says

            I’m not living in a alternat reality.😒

          3. ABO says

            I believe you are but you are just not bright enough to realize it.

          4. Will Higgins says

            Have you heard of what Trump and his supporters believe?

          5. ABO says

            Oh this should be rich. No I have no idea what Trump and his supporters believe. Please by all means enlighten me.

          6. ABO says

            Oh this should be rich. No I have no idea what Trump and his supporters believe. Please do enlighten me oh great one.

          7. Will Higgins says

            They think massive voter fraud is affecting elections, and that everyone who doesn’t agree with them are actively trying to destroy America, just to name a couple.

          8. Frank Taylor says

            I have no problem with a thorough review to see if it happened. If it did, it needs to be stopped and if not we will know with certainty that little or no fraud occurred.

          9. Will Higgins says

            People have already looked into it, and they say it didn’t happen.

        2. ABO says

          Don’t subject your friend the therapist to that Mike.

      4. Rodney Dietz says

        Will… Please tell me you don’t honestly believe that? Just the thought some one is so blind to her corruption scares the He$$ out of me. Illegals would be pouring in at an accelerated rate right now, We wouldn’t know the depths of true corruption Obama left behind for Hilary to carry on, Tax reform would be a pipe dream, NK would be holding a nuke to USA right now, Socialism would be the order of the day. I’m shivering right now thinking of the possibilities. We have to carry Trump through 2020.

        1. Will Higgins says

          Undocumented immigration was going down, this tax reform is a joke, North Korea dose have a nuke, and Clinton was actually more pro-free market then Trump.

      5. Norman says
        1. Will Higgins says

          That video had more the four times as dislike then likes. 🤣🤣🤣

          1. ABO says

            Please Higgy try English for a change.

      6. Norman says

        I can’t imagine big-government globalist hilLARy urging the Republican dominated Congress to pass the recent tax cut bill so she(?) could sign it.

        I can’t imagine anti-business hilLIARy urging manufacturers to build and operate production plants in the USA at the new 21% tax rate instead of the old 35% rate and to give Americans jobs.

        I can’t imagine hilLLIARy sending anti-tank missiles to Ukraine to fight Russian-backed rebels.

        I can’t imagine hilLIARy returning US air defense missiles to Poland and Czechoslovakia to defy Putin.

        I can’t imagine hilLIARy pulling the USA out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

        I can’t imagine hilLIARy demanding that NATO member nation start paying their share of NATO operating costs.

        Nor can I imagine hilLIARy allowing the USA to move its embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and telling the UN to shut up and like it or the USA would cut its funding to the UN.

        1. ARTPSYCH says

          Yes I can’t also imagine Hillary ever repealing the Johnson act for religious freedom..I can’t imagine Hitlery attempting to make north Korea heel and send 3 war fleets to watch the fat turd

        2. Will Higgins says

          Why do people think Clinton is anti-business? He was given s**t because she was to close to Wall Street.
          Had Trump done any of those thing to ‘defy Putin’?

          1. ARTPSYCH says

            HUH?
            Virus-free.
            http://www.avg.com

          2. Will Higgins says

            I DON’t KNOW WHAT YOU TRYING TO SAY!

          3. ARTPSYCH says

            I can’t either!

          4. Norman says

            Here is one example: hilLIARy himself said ” . . . . we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” That stupid anti-business remark cost him (i.e. hilLIARy) KY, WV, and PA.

          5. ARTPSYCH says

            When she said that-Were going to put a lot of coal miners out of business” she wasn’t kidding and she seemed to relish the idea as i recall the look on her pock marked face.

          6. ARTPSYCH says

            I was surprised the caked on make-up didn’t crack off her face!

          7. ARTPSYCH says

            she loves silicon valley moguls but whats interesting those major manufacturig jobs are done by chinese workers making a 75.00 item each at less than 8 bucks an hour and long hours..then they seel iphones here for 950% higher here!

          8. Will Higgins says

            Didn’t she want to start programs that retrain unemployed miners?
            Also, source?

          9. ARTPSYCH says

            When she bashed the miners at her campaign..she said- t I’m going to put a lot of col miners out of work”! She said it like a threat and glee on her face. I’ll bet that moment many republican conservatives saw the ture Hillary as anti-job

          10. Will Higgins says

            That’s not a source.
            I said she wanted to give miners training for new jobs.
            Coal miners have been going out of work for decandes.

          11. ARTPSYCH says

            Hillary never gave a. Crap about blue collar workers..nor blacks by her so called efforts in politics for 30 years in various stages of power.Her New York position as senator was dismal when she promised jobs for her state..she never had any ideas as to turn our economy around..just flagrant B.S.

          12. Will Higgins says

            Trump doesn’t have any ideas either. He just panders to his base.

          13. ARTPSYCH says

            So Hillary and Obuttass never pandered by their “Dog whistling to their base..”! ha! You can’t come up with 10 things the Ayatollah Osmellso-good never did!

          14. Frank Taylor says

            At this time it is not relevant what Clinton wanted to do. She lost and is spending her time making excuses and wallowing in self pity.

          15. ARTPSYCH says

            Will, we neve heard one word from hillary as to what new jobs training she had in mind..fluipping burgers since she’d have sent more jobs over seas by way of the TPP!

          16. Will Higgins says

            Conservatives are the ones talking about her?

          17. Frank Taylor says

            I think my comment sums up what she is doing quite adequately. Clinton is toast now. Kind of like Al Gore.

          18. ARTPSYCH says

            Conservatives only mention Sir Hitlery when she pops her ugly mug up on the radar! then we hammer her head like a dumb mole poking it’s head outta the ground! Whack a mole!
            Virus-free.
            http://www.avg.com

          19. Will Higgins says

            I’m just saying who talks about her the most.

          20. ARTPSYCH says

            CNN usually does..Clinton new network

          21. Will Higgins says

            Actually, Fox News/state media does.

          22. ARTPSYCH says

            ture=true

      1. DeltaFoxtrot says

        Under Obama America experienced the SLOWEST economic recovery in history. Our economy grew at a record slow pace. We struggled out of the recession not because of what he did, but in spite of it.

        All that spending and he still couldn’t get GDP to grow by 3%.

        http://cdn.cnsnews.com/10_straight_years-gdp_growth-chart.jpg

      2. mac12sam12 says

        Obama never fixed the economy and it was 8 years of zero growth. Want his record bad numbers?

        1. David in MA says

          Obama was trying to bankrupt America and cause another great depression so that his Islamic Marxist agenda would be acceptable to the people…… didn’t Hitler do this same thing?

        2. gotabgood says

          Yes, I want his records.

          1. mac12sam12 says

            http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamas-historically-bad-economy/article/2003730 BLS has all the numbers. Worst ever but what the heck, you got free healthcare off the backs of hard working Americans.

    1. bill14729 . says

      We all know obama’s jobs rating were made to make him look good for that matter everything about obama was made to make him look good that’s the Liberal way all Fake

      1. DeltaFoxtrot says

        Yes… amazing what happens to unemployment numbers when you change the way unemployment is calculated.

    2. Mathew Molk says

      I think your chart is bogus with regard to any category with regard to labor. I’m not talking about unskilled and low pay jobs but there are more jobs for skilled and qualified people then there are applicants, at least in the real world Great Lakes area I live in.

      The jobs the royal exalted boma were part time in the house keeping and food service industries. They were taken by people the ran out of unemployment. The jobs today are full time well paying jobs with benefits. If there are less of them good, We don’t want to see the few tool and die makers flipping burgers. – Real world observation not taken from cooked up government stats.

      1. Francisco Machado says

        “more jobs for skilled and qualified people then there are applicants” – Doesn’t say much for our Common Core education, does it?

  6. Jubal Durden says

    Many of the #nevertrumpers outed themselves as part of the D.C. establishment, and not conservative in the least. Most of these narcissists would rather run America into the ground, than admit that they were wrong.

    1. Retired says

      The main ring leaders in congress Schumer – Pelosi – Feinstein and Warren along with McCain .Thank god Reid is gone .

      1. Robert says

        Retired,I think the aliens abducted Reid? Let’s hope so,he’s another of the many parasites who should be in jail right now!!

        1. Donald Kilb says

          No luck, he’s still breathing oxygen in Nevada.

          1. dennis w says

            WHAT A WASTE OF GOOD OXYGEN……..

          2. Donald Kilb says

            Maybe we could use him to test a new biological agent, preferably extremely slow and painful.

        2. Scuttlebutt says

          Along with the clintons.

      2. Donald Kilb says

        Too bad the rest of them are still here.

        1. Garys_opinion says

          Well, it can be said that Pelosi is not all here. She’s barely functional.

          1. Donald Kilb says

            Here mere existence is a tragedy on us all, although she is cement overshoes for Demonrats.

          2. dennis w says

            LOL…..LOL……LOL…………….

          3. Retired says

            Botox is holding her together .

          4. Herb1949 says

            But it rotted her tiny brain.

          5. Retired says

            Was not aware there ever was a brain !!!

          6. AKLady says

            You claim to have one?

          7. AKLady says

            What is your excuse?

          8. Rex Whitmer says

            We know you don’t have one AK. You lost it in Reno last year playing stud poker!

          9. AKLady says

            Are you having a bad day?”
            I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.

          10. Rex Whitmer says

            I always have good days! Some are better. But all are grand! How’s YOUR day?

          11. AKLady says

            Excellent. Thank you.
            Happy New Year

          12. ABO says

            If only barely.

          13. Retired says

            Funny that no one talks about how her and her old man got so filthy rich .

          14. ABO says

            Talk about organized crime. Good point Retired. She sure made all those Government contracts work for them didn’t she???

          15. John J. Mulhall says

            Gary – she needs to double up (triple up?) on her Alzheimer’s meds so she can at least remember to bring her notes to the presstitute conferences.

          16. Rob D says

            A wretched old POS if I ever saw one.

          17. Harold says

            That would be our President.

          18. Rob D says

            Fookin LibTurd. Trump makes her look even worse than dino dung.

          19. Robert Uda says

            No, that would be you, dingbat.

          20. Frank Taylor says

            She still has to remember which pocket she put them in.

          21. Knarf says

            Yeah… we need to keep her around. i.e. We need to pass the bill before we know what is in it. She is a real keeper all right. Sarc….
            MAGA

          22. AKLady says

            Maybe you should repeat the statement in its entirety?

            You would also put the statement in the proper context…
            That would be what an honest person would do …

            “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”

            You can find a partial transcript of her speech here: https://www.snopes.com/pelosi-healthcare-pass-the-bill-to-see-what-is-in-it/

          23. Rex Whitmer says

            Maybe YOU don’t know what you’re talking about AK. Just looking at her gives you an idea of what she is, and when she speaks…..well sometimes you can understand what she’s talking about, but most times there’s no sense at all to it!

          24. Norman says

            Make no mistake about it; AKHag perfectly understands and totally agrees with Nazi P. Lousy’s nonsense.

          25. AKLady says

            Ritual insults, name-calling, unfriendly suggestions…
            can’t you think of anything better?

          26. AKLady says

            You were provided facts.
            YOu were provided a link to the actual speech.
            Yes, you decided to make a fool of yourself with an ignorant insult.

          27. Retired says

            Yes AK , you are the biggest fool Troll the internet has ever had .

          28. Bob Seawright says

            On Rex’s behalf, Nancy P. isn’t functioning too well these days.

          29. Retired says

            Did she ever function other than collecting money ????

          30. ABO says

            Fits right In with AKLoony Rex. They’re two of a kind.

          31. Terry says

            Rex AK is a troll being paid for by how many people respond to it’s stupidity . Just block its post .

          32. ARTPSYCH says

            I blocked her over one or two spelling errors- she thought that was more important than answering a simple question

          33. ARTPSYCH says

            Pelosi makes all the democrats look incompetent..When Pelosi speaks I usually sort of chiuckle to my self and say “Say what”? I barely understood a word she said.

          34. Chris Berg says

            AKLady once again comes in with absolute BS trash that changes nothing about the topic, but she merely defends the criminals and socialists who are trying to destroy the US…

          35. AKLady says

            Are you having a bad day?”
            I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.
            “Personal insults are the last refuge of the intellectual coward.”
            ~Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

          36. Frank Taylor says

            The words should have never been used. They were her words though and you can take them by themselves or in addition to her saying Voters deserved to know what was in it. I fail to see what good it does for either the congress or voters ot find out after the vote.

          37. AKLady says

            Citing words out of context is no different than lying.

          38. Frank Taylor says

            When the person cited used the words, it is not lying. They were her words and just out of curiosity how many in congress do you think read that huge bill before voting. That may not have been what she intended for people to remember, but they do. I read the speech and really do not know what the hell she was trying to get across.

          39. AKLady says

            Citing words out of context is no different than lying.
            Your inability to understand that fact goes a long way to explaining why you cannot understand the law, which is written in what is commonly called “legalese”.

          40. Frank Taylor says

            Do you have any idea how many pages are in that law. It is very complicated and I don’t think very many have read it through unless they had to in order to comply. I do know that Government has no right to tell me or you or anyone else that they must buy anything. With the tax bill , at least the individual mandate is now gone.

          41. AKLady says

            Then, I take it you do not own and drive a vehicle.
            Additionally, you obviously do not own a business that has employees.
            Obviously, you do not practice a profession …
            You do not know jack .,.

            When someone files medical bankruptcy, you pay their medical bills —
            by government order.

          42. Frank Taylor says

            you hide your profile and even hide past comments, kind of like the coward who hits someone from behind and runs away to hide. From past comments made by you, I can not remember even one that had any legs to stand on.

          43. AKLady says

            “Insults are not arguments, when people resort to insults and personal abuses, then they have run out of logic.” Vincent C. Okeke

          44. Frank Taylor says

            I do not hide my past comments nor my profile. I can and do support any thing i say with facts. you are quite different. Your profile and past comments are not available, due to you making them private. You repeat yourself and have little to say about anything other than comments similar to the one you just made. You actually insult yourself, by not being positive and by repeating yourself and by repeating the same comment over and over. You bring nothing new to any discussion but do criticize those who do.

          45. AKLady says

            Do you feel superior?
            Do you feel better now that you have spewed?

          46. Frank Taylor says

            Now i remember you!! You hide your profile and use the same old worn out words for lack of any logical comments. No originality, just tired old cliches. From the entire statement, by Pelosi, different people will draw different conclusions. Pelosi is very far left is about all i need to know .

          47. AKLady says

            “Personal insults are the last refuge of the intellectual coward.”
            ~Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

          48. Frank Taylor says

            I am well educated , but would hardly call myself an intellectual and certainly not a coward. I stand by and support any comment i make. You only substantiate my comments about you which are not personal. You hide who you are and seldom contribute any positive comment to any discussion. You attack others with your worn out cliches.

          49. ARTPSYCH says

            There she (AKLADY) goes again- parroting the same words over and over like bird in a cage. “Personal insults are the last refuge of the intellectual coward.” “Insults are not arguments, when people resort to insults and personal abuses, then they have run out of logic.” Vincent C. Okeke Citing words out of context is no different than lying.
            Your inability to understand that fact goes a long way to explaining why you cannot .

            Geez!
            Virus-free.
            http://www.avg.com

          50. boone1 says

            Pelosi has had so many face lifts her ass is now the back of her head and can’t straight.

          51. Bob Doak says

            LOL

          52. AKLady says

            Your sewer mouth is disgusting.
            Why don’t you try for some adult behavior?

          53. Retired says

            That would leave you out , seeing you are still in nursery school .

          54. Bob Seawright says

            In this forum, adult behavior is not a plentiful currency.

          55. American Patriot says

            I agree with you very much and loved your description of Ms. Pelosi, and I think we can add Mr McCain to the “barely functional” list also. Now if I may make a suggestion, we could put Ms. Feinstein and Ms. Warren to the “pink cloud/not in reality” list, and I think the “Liars Club” would be for Mr Schumer….God Bless America and Merry Christmas!

          56. Norman says

            Nazi P. Lousy is a dumb Kalifornia blonde who dyes her gray hair brown.

          57. AKLady says

            You are mistaken. The White Supremacist, neo-Nazi I sitting in the Whitehouse.

          58. Julia Sanford says

            Here is another example of not listening or intentionally misquoting or twisting words. Trump soundly condemned the White Supremacist and the KKK. He said there were good, reasonable people on both sides. There was a group of people who obtained permits to march and protest removing the historical statues. They were neither White Supremacist not KKK. Are you defending the Antifa demonstrators who did not obtain permits and showed up in black masks and with weapons?

          59. AKLady says

            Nothing in your post has anything, whatsoever, to do with Trump’s racism.
            His racism is documented by more than 200 discrimination cases brought by the Department of Justice. Start you education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1873. You really should try doing some research. Your “hero” has feet of mud, not just clay.

          60. AKLady says

            Then there is the dumb New York blonde who bleaches his.

          61. Herb1949 says

            She hasn’t been anywhere near fully functional for years.

          62. ernldo says

            That old pig isn’t the problem, its the hundreds of thousands, even millions of brainless, brain dead, chin drooling entitlement pervert demotards that support the leftist battle axe….America needs an enema!

        2. Robert Zraick says

          some not for long.

      3. dennis w says

        SADLY….NOT ‘GONE’ ENOUGH…….
        HE’S A DISCIPLE OF LUCIFER AND HIS HATE…….
        HARRY IS ONE OF LUCIFER’S BEST……

        1. AKLady says

          Actually, you just proved that you are …

          1. Retired says

            Bragging about yourself again ???? You are the Muslim Satan worshiper who was in the WH for 8 years .

          2. boone1 says

            The muslim sandnigger is still causing problems and should have his muslim ass in jail better yet killed.

          3. AKLady says

            America’s fist ally was a Muslim country — Morocco.
            Morocco is also our longest ally — 225 years.
            The first to dies in out Revolution was a Muslim — Crispus Attucks, a slave.

            Wr have may Muslims allies: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain,Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Morocco, Myanmar, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Turkey, Uganda. United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.

            Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are the counties which made/make our Middle Eastern war efforts possible. They provide bases and permit shipment of war materials.

            Maybe, you should stop insulting your fellow Americans and our allies in other countries. Religious bigotry is un-America. Islam has been part of America since before we became a nation.

          4. Phoebe Isley says

            We are a CHRISTIAN NATION!!!!!! End of story so get over it or leave!

          5. AKLady says

            “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
            ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

          6. AKLady says

            “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
            ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

          7. AKLady says

            “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
            ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

          8. AKLady says

            “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
            ~Founding Father James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

          9. AKLady says

            “In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”
            ~Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)

          10. AKLady says

            “I never liked the Hierarchy of the Church — an equality in the teacher of Religion, and a dependence on the people, are republican sentiments — but if the Clergy combine, they will have their influence on Government”
            ~Founding Father Rufus King, Rufus King: American Federalist, pp. 56-57

          11. AKLady says

            “Knowledge and liberty are so prevalent in this country, that I do not believe that the United States would ever be disposed to establish one religious sect, and lay all others under legal disabilities. But as we know not what may take place hereafter, and any such test would be exceedingly injurious to the rights of free citizens, I cannot think it altogether superfluous to have added a clause, which secures us from the possibility of such oppression.”
            ~Founding Father Oliver Wolcott, Connecticut Ratifying Convention, 9 January 1788

          12. AKLady says

            We are not a Christian nation.
            End of story, so get over it or leave.

          13. AKLady says

            Islam is an Abrahamic religion, as are the Jewish and Christian religions.
            Muslims worship the Old Testament God of Abraham.
            .
            Your religious lies and bigotry embarrass America.
            You insult everything our Founders fought and died for.

          14. Retired says

            Yes ,YOU insult everything the founders died for .They would have had you on the fire stake in those days .

          15. AKLady says

            I suggest you obtain a better history education.
            You embarrass America with your religious bigotry and hate.
            Our first ally was a Muslim country — Morocco.
            Our longest alley is a Muslims country — Morocco, 225 years.
            In fact, we have many Muslim allies: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain,Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Morocco, Myanmar, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Turkey, Uganda. United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.

          16. Retired says

            If you think Morocco and other Muslim countries are so great ,go live there .That you are a witch is believable ,but not a physician . You was a bed pan handler in Nam and nothing more .

          17. AKLady says

            You confuse culture with religion.
            They are not the same.

            Your ignorance is huge, it embarrasses America.
            As a veteran, as well as a military spouse,
            I have lived in Muslim countries.

            I can name nine Muslim women who have ruled nations. America has never elected a woman President.

          18. Retired says

            More BS and lies from our Muslim Troll , you also lived ,registered and voted in every lower 48 States plus live Outside the USA that would make you over a hundred years old . So far the US has not had a decent Woman running for the position . Palin came the closest but McCain had to hog the ticket .

          19. AKLady says

            Religious bigotry, how un-American.
            No, ignorant, bigoted old man,
            that would mean I moved frequently.
            Palin the law-breaker is anything but decent.
            The Palin clan is TRASH.

          20. Retired says

            The ignorant and bigoted old man is you with all the lies you have told . Rotation was from 2 to four years in the days you claimed . so that was one of your big lies to start with . Like I said all the BS puts you over 100 years old . You know nothing about Palin except from what you have read in the hate media .Just like the lie that Palin was your neighbor .

          21. AKLady says

            You claim to know so much, but actually know so little. Suggest you look up the difference between TAD and PCS orders. You have a very bad case of foot in mouth disease.

            Military surgeons are sent where they are needed, when they are needs. There is a shortage of military doctors, there always has been.

            Palin is my neighbor. The police are there almost every weekend. Track assaulted his father. He may actually face incarceration this time.

          22. Retired says

            You lie a lot about rotation of the military . what Track did was in every media and does not prove you are neighbors .Palin says NO .

      4. SouthernPatriot says

        Add Flake and others who continue to act as @sses on every opportunity. Hypocrisy and deception reigns in their minds and hearts. They know Trump is not a life-long politician as they are, and does not look at our problems like a politician.

        1. Linda Shelton says

          No, he looks at them as an real American does.

          1. AKLady says

            Only if that “real American” is part of the 1% at the top.

        2. AKLady says

          No, he looks at how he can increase his net worth.
          Nothing he has done benefits the average American.
          However, the tax legislation he just signed put $22 million into his pocket and thw bank accounts of each of his relatives.

          1. Norman says

            $22 million dollars into his own pocket? Did you make that LIE up yourself or are you MINDLESSLY repeating demonicrat propaganda again?

          2. Retired says

            There is no hope for the AK idiot , it’s like Robo call always the some old shitsky AK spreads

          3. AKLady says

            Ritual insults, name-calling, unfriendly suggestions…
            can’t you think of anything better?
            .
            I suggest you try for better grammar …
            The sewer language is dimply more evidence of your illiteracy.

          4. AKLady says

            I tis said that ignorance is bliss.
            You seem very blissful.
            Actually, self-imposed ignorance, such as yours, is very sad.

          5. ABO says

            She loves to make up stories and pass them off as “fact” Norman.

          6. Julia Sanford says

            The later, Norman. I doubt that she has even read the bill. I hope she will enjoy the extra money unless she is a part of the 1%, in which case, she may not see a tax cut.

      5. boone1 says

        Schumer is Reid twin brother and both need a 6x6x4.

    2. Will Higgins says

      The establishment IS conservative right now, Trump is just a guy who got a bunch of conservatives to vote for him.

      1. Jubal Durden says

        The “establishment” is a uni-party oligarchy, made up of left-wingers, and self serving RINOs… all of which hate President Trump and his supporters.

        1. "Divergent" sgthwjack ✯ says

          Washington spoke to this, quite some time ago.

          “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.”
          George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

        2. John Douglas says

          Perfectly said

        3. Will Higgins says

          If anything, the establishment is right-wing now, you want real anti-establishment, forget about Trump, or Bannon, and go become a socialist.

          1. Jubal Durden says

            “Right-wing” is a term used so incorrectly, that you can pretty much dismiss anyone using it in an argument. The left-wing is alive and well. That horrible 20th Century ideology of oppression and death keeps trying to subjugate humanity. The left needs an enemy that’s equally abysmal, so they label everyone that’s opposed to their horrible ideology as “right-wingers.” The only movement, of any significance, that even remotely resembles collectivist fascism, is Islam.

            Most of the enemies of the left-wing, are individualists, that oppose big government, and supports individual liberty, limited government, the Constitution, and a representative government, in which the power remains with We the People. By definition, those people can’t be fascist, nor National Socialists, nor “right-wing.”

          2. Will Higgins says

            It’s rightists who are always looking for enemies. There always going to be a civil, there’s always a ‘criminal government’. And conservatives can repeat ‘limited government’ and ‘individual liberty’ all they want ( but seem to forget it on topic of gays rights, and abortions), that want change all the far-right groups.

          3. Jubal Durden says

            I don’t know any “rightists.” I have seen films with them in Europe long ago. Our last president was a leftist, so they aren’t rare. I’m guessing you’re one, and that’s why you’re spinning so hard right now. When “abortion” becomes one of the things you’re fighting for… then death defines you.

          4. Will Higgins says

            Abortion is about choice.
            And just because Republicans aren’t are literal fascists doesn’t mean they aren’t rightists.

          5. Jubal Durden says

            Abortion is about killing your own unborn child… saying it’s about “choice” is just spin for ghouls. That’s like saying slavery was about “choice.” Some people chose to have slaves, and most didn’t.

          6. "Divergent" sgthwjack ✯ says

            “I fully believe in choice. Everyone should have control over THEIR body. The problem is women don’t abort themselves, they abort someone else.”

            Basic.

          7. Will Higgins says

            You know, if you don’t like abortions, you should be encouraging safe sex instead.

          8. Jubal Durden says

            I encourage personal responsibility, safe sex, and the idea that people shouldn’t kill their own babies.

          9. Will Higgins says

            You know no abortions ever is the lest popular stance.

          10. Jubal Durden says

            Straw man says what?

          11. Will Higgins says

            Tdgfeghrggvycrzrcbtc🤯🤬😁👎

          12. Jubal Durden says

            “Tdgfeghrggvycrzrcbtc🤯🤬😁👎”

            That’s the most intelligent thing you posted all day. The rest of your drivel has been pretty pointless. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1454d04ac8a4f376682969359e6bbc3c001d4e731d712f2752b58ec9ff04df54.gif

          13. Will Higgins says
          14. Frank Taylor says

            There are a couple of victims of Abortion. First there is the unborn child that is killed with no say in whether it lives or dies. Then the mother who aborts must face the emotional results of killing her unborn child. The unborn child certainly is not hungry. The doctor who performed the abortion and the mother who decided to abort made sure that child will never breathe or show the love to its mother that it would have shown if born.

          15. Will Higgins says
          16. ABO says

            Stop drooling Higgy. Your shirt’s a mess and you look like an idiot. Of course you sound like an idiot so…

          17. safari1024 says

            Will likes to argue, and I use that word intentionally, his viewpoint no matter how illogical and no matter how many ways said viewpoint is proven false with facts. It’s almost like putting a car up on blocks, stepping on the gas, and expecting to go somewhere. Except the tank is empty, the motor has seized, and he’s still trying to drive it.

          18. ABO says

            Huh???

          19. Will Higgins says

            The belief that no abortions should be allowed at anytime is the least popular stance on abortion.

          20. ABO says

            What exactly does that statement have to do with ANYTHING anyone said prior to your ridiculous response? Just pull one up from your collection of DNC canned responses did you???

          21. Will Higgins says

            It was Jubal Durdeb Who went crazy about abotions.

          22. ABO says

            So Jubal went crazy about abortions huh? Where was that you pathetic idiot? Quote for me the crazy statements Jubal made about abortions. I’ve read all of his comments on this thread and I found nothing that any normal person would consider crazy. Do you make a habit of leveling stupid, baseless accusations against others?

          23. Will Higgins says

            I made a joke about how conservatives say they want limited government, but want to crack down on things like gay marriage and abortion, and they took it to far.

          24. Frank Taylor says

            I am still waiting on how you feel about abortion and if you are in favor how late should it be allowed.

          25. Will Higgins says

            I’m pro choice, but I’m not to sure about late term abortions.

          26. Frank Taylor says

            pro choice is nothing more or less than pro-abortion. I fail to understand how anyone can be in favor of destroying a human life. abortion is nothing more or less than killing an unborn child, At twenty weeks a child is fully formed and feels pain. There are pictures available at nearly every stage of development for the unborn child. Check some out at say ten weeks and see what you are supporting. Many abortions are beyond ten weeks. The abortion destroys a human life.

          27. Will Higgins says

            Most abortions at that point are because that when the detect problems.

          28. Frank Taylor says

            most women who abort refuse to look at the sonagram. If they looked they might change their minds. They should be forced to look at what they are killing.

          29. Will Higgins says

            I said I respect it’s a tough thing to go through.

          30. Frank Taylor says

            Abortion is a whole lot harder on the unborn child that is murdered by its own mother and the abortion doctor.

          31. Will Higgins says

            Some would say life with a unwelcoming, and sometimes unprepared mother is worse.

          32. Frank Taylor says

            She could put the child when born up for adoption. She murders her child for her own convenience without any regard for the rights of her child.

          33. Will Higgins says

            Yes, because over crowding will never be a issue?

          34. Frank Taylor says

            That may be the worst comment i have ever seen. The possibility of overcrowding has no effect on the decision to abort. Muslims have as many as eight or ten children so they are not worried about overcrowding. The main question is does any person have a moral or even a legal right to end the life of another person. Old people can become a financial burden on their children, Do the kids have a right to end their life too. How about a child that is born with serious deformity or mental issues. Should that life be ended also. Where do we draw the line will. Morality has to come into play.

          35. Will Higgins says

            Counties with high birth rates tend to also have high infant mortality.
            And deformities and defects are usually a reason to abort.

          36. Frank Taylor says

            anyone who supports abortion is in favor of child murder.

          37. Will Higgins says
          38. Jubal Durden says

            Since actual “literal” right-wingers, are European, National Socialist, COLLECTIVIST fascists, your definition of who the “right” is… is meaningless. Why on Earth, would good people, allow some leftist to re-define who they are, just to support their own uneducated narrative of absolute horseshit?

          39. Will Higgins says

            It’s the right trying to demonize the idea of being on the left.
            And both sides of the political spectrum have moderates and extremists, and authoritarians and libertarians.

          40. Jubal Durden says

            I think the left and the right are two wings of the same retarded bird, and you reinforce that opinion.

          41. Will Higgins says

            That old thing?
            Everyone says they don’t the terminology, but they still use it. I don’t like it either, but it’s still relivent.

          42. Jubal Durden says

            The uneducated, liars, the brainwashed, and left-wingers (I repeat myself) are the only people using those terms incorrectly.

          43. Will Higgins says

            You the one who doesn’t know that those terms mean.

          44. Jubal Durden says

            I can teach a graduate class on the subject. I would suggest to you, a 6th grade political history class.

          45. Will Higgins says

            Well that class is in for some misinformation.

          46. ABO says

            C”mon JubaL, Sixth grade? You trying to confuse the Hell out of him?

          47. boone1 says

            LOL

          48. ABO says

            Haven’t hired that second grader yet have you??? It’s fairly obvious. Not enough change in your pocket???

          49. Cletus B Neckbeard says

            Relevant

          50. Will Higgins says

            OK, I made spelling mistakes, I fixed it.

          51. ABO says

            I must say Higgy, that your ignorance is absolutely astounding. You must work very hard at it.

          52. boone1 says

            Higgy like all liberals have shit for brains need I say more.

          53. Carol says

            Abortion/murder should never be a choice. That’s despicable!

          54. Will Higgins says

            You call say that, then you slut shame single mothers.

          55. Carol says

            How did I slut shame single mothers? Their is a fix for not having children when one is not ready. It’s called birth control. Not expensive, does the trick. Or how about abstinence? Killing an unborn child as a form of birth control is nothing short of an abomination.

          56. Will Higgins says

            You know who helps with birth control, planed parenthood.

          57. Carol says

            Not enough obviously.

          58. ABO says

            Well said Carol. Good point.

          59. Carol says

            Thanks ABO. Appreciate it.

          60. ABO says

            Willy’s a gem isn’t he? “Planed Parenthood”. Gotta love it.

          61. Carol says

            Yeah, why does he care so much about abortion.

          62. ABO says

            I must assume that like so many other Democrat voters he is tremendously easily influenced by the rhetoric that he has accepted without remorse the fact that millions of completely innocent unborn children are murdered with the full blessing of the Democrat Party. I find it amazing that so many people at willing to pass off and ignore the most basic human right, that of life for the sake of political expedience, but obviously million of liberals don’t car and vast numbers of those like Higgy support the concept unquestioningly. Go figure.

          63. Carol says

            Back in the day we called them educated idiots. Yesterday I learned the present term is intelligent idiot. Lol. I happen to think children and most animals are the only innocents that are left on this planet. Democrats are heartless fools.

          64. ABO says

            You appear to be a bastion of common sense Carol. Keep up the good work!

          65. Carol says

            Thanks same for you.

          66. Carol says

            Do you wonder why he is so hung up over abortion? Strange for a guy.

          67. ABO says

            I certainly have issues with abortion myself, Carol, and I am not in any way associated with any organized religion. Higgy I believe is simply an easily influenced personality who has allowed himself to be completely brainwashed by the liberal/regressive rhetoric he has been subjected to. His explanations of his reasoning and political theory show him to be a bit of a simpleton and as Hillary Clinton stated in an interview with Dick Morris in November of 2005, “Look, the average Democrat voter is just plain stupid. They are incredibly easy to manipulate.” Higgy I a prime example of this.

          68. Carol says

            I am also not affiliated with a particular organized religion. Hillary was right yet they still voted for her. He’s certainly brainwashed when it comes to abortion. I don’t think they should be used as a form of birth control. He disagrees for some reason. Kinda like beating a dead horse. Ha

          69. Will Higgins says

            Abortions have been going down for years.

          70. Carol says

            In some states. Not enough! Still too many abortions. Will, why are you so interested in abortions? Why do you think they are ok? You are a man right?

          71. Will Higgins says

            The other guy brought them up.
            And which states have abortion evening going up in?

          72. Carol says

            I didn’t say they were going up, I said they weren’t down in some states.

          73. Will Higgins says

            Which states are those then?

          74. Frank Taylor says

            What is your viewpoint of Abortion,Will? are you for or against and if for what is the cut off point that no abortion should be allowed?

          75. Will Higgins says

            I think it is seriously situation to go through. And that if the people who want to outlaw abortions they should be prepared for a lot of children growing up in unstable environments.

          76. Frank Taylor says

            you did not say where you personally stand on abortion. There are lines waiting for kids to adopt. What moral right does a pregnant woman or her doctor have to end the life of an unborn child, who has the same right to live as either of them do. Taking a human life is murder.

          77. Will Higgins says

            I don’t think it should be encouraged, or totally outlawed, but it should be a option in serious situations.

          78. Frank Taylor says

            I am against all abortion except where the life of mother is at risk. Rape and incest if done very early like first week could be ok. Everything else has no moral standing. There are lots of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and the unborn have rights too.

          79. Will Higgins says

            Pro-lifer want to lower abortions through birth control.

          80. Frank Taylor says

            i am cool with that. Birth control prevents the egg from being fertilized, thus no life is destroyed. Birth control should be encouraged and is not expensive.

          81. Frank Taylor says

            What is so bad about that?

          82. Will Higgins says

            Sorry, meant pro-choicers.

          83. Frank Taylor says

            still not a bad thing. The name pro-choicer however is not really appropriate. They really should be called pro abortion.

          84. Will Higgins says

            Then why aren’t pro-lifers called anti-abortion?

          85. Frank Taylor says

            That works for me. Pro-lifers are anti abortion and pro-choice are for abortion. Calling them what they are sounds like a great idea to me.

          86. Will Higgins says

            Well neither side wants to be the ‘anti’.

          87. Frank Taylor says

            Despite what either side says, they have made a clear choice. One side supports abortions and one side is against abortion. It could be said that one side favors murdering an unborn child and the other fights against that.

          88. Carol says

            Tennessee and Michigan. Some of the abortion seeking women from Texas and Ohio atributed to the rate not going down, because they went to those states for easier access. End of discussion. Talk about something else.

          89. Will Higgins says

            The overall number is still going down.

          90. Carol says

            Yea Will, they are going down due to a myriad of reasons. That’s a good thing.

          91. ABO says

            Can’t we get Higgy neutered?

          92. Carol says

            Lol that’s funny. Not quite sure where higgy is coming from, he’s all over the place. Seems harmless enough though. His comments are a little weak.

          93. ABO says

            Just a quick suggestion, Higgy. Perhaps you could hire an average second grader to teach you to construct a simple sentence as you seem to have a great deal of difficulty with that confusing task. Give it a shot, Higgy. You couldn’t do much worse than you do now.

          94. boone1 says

            Obama was a muslim sandnigger communist and a sorry ass POS as well.

          95. boone1 says

            To be gay is a sin abortions are nothing but pure MURDER.

          96. Will Higgins says
          97. Mike with the Silver Star says

            You hear what Jubal just said, Will Higgins? Good! Study and learn from his comment!

          98. boone1 says

            Liberals never study nor do they learn from history. Which as we know that if you don’t learn from history you will repeat history.

          99. Robert Zraick says

            Rather confused Will. The establishment now is socialist. That is what must be corrected.

          100. Will Higgins says

            How is the establishment socialist?

          101. Robert Zraick says

            Social Security is a socialistic concept. Medicare is socialistic. The progressive income tax is socialistic, and all welfare programs are socialistic in nature. And all schemes to redistribute wealth are socialistic.

          102. Will Higgins says

            ‘All government is socialism, military is socialism, and tax’s are fascism!’🤪

          103. Robert Zraick says

            I don’t agree with your definitions. Frankly I have no idea where you are getting them. This is pointless. You are a contrarian. No matter what I say, you will disagree.
            I wish I could say that our back and forth has been interesting, but in fact I think it is a waste of time.

          104. Will Higgins says

            I was making a joke. Giving out money is not socialism. But is the government using money is socialism then the military is socialism. I heard the thing about taxes from a ancap.

          105. Robert Zraick says

            I did not understand that you were joking.

            So let me reply to your last two posts. All governments are not socialism. A monarchy or a dictatorship is a form of government. They are more properly call fascism. A democracy is closer to socialism, because it is mob rule, and a socialistic concept is that the majority can trample the rights of the minority.

            A republic form of government (as we were at our foundation) is based on rule of law and recognition of equal rights on an individual basis. Certainly not the collectivism of socialism.

            Military is not socialism. Structurally it is a form of organization based on a chain of command for efficiency as a fighting machine. The government using money to fund the military is not socialism. It depends on the method of taxation. Protecting the lives of our citizens is one of the few functions which is best done by the government. There was a time when the army was all voluntary. Those days are gone.

            It is only socialistic if the taxes are not collected equally from all. That is why the progressive income tax is socialistic and should be abolished.

            We say that all men are created equal (not in every way, or there would be no ugly people, and everyone could sing.) but equality can be achieved if all people were taxed equally and received benefits equally. We are so far form equality of rights, that if the Founders were alive today, they would stage another revolution against our present government.

            All taxes are not fascist. Some are. The collection of taxes by force is fascist. The unequal taxation based on redistributing the wealth is definitely socialism. And the national debt creation is criminal.

            Giving out money can be socialism depending on how the money was collected or borrowed.

            Our government is completely out of control. Far too big and intrusive. It does just about everything to promote dependency and to expand its own power, and fails consistently to do the one thing which is valid. That one thing is to protect the individual human rights of all citizens equally.

            Merry Christmas.

          106. Will Higgins says

            I don’t people blame everything on a ‘big government’ just because a government can some time be dysfunctional.

          107. Frank Taylor says

            if you consider taxation to be fascism, then how can you then be against the tax cuts. It is true that our government has taken on many programs that some might consider socialism. I tend to agree that the entitlements come very close to socialism. Our armed services are totally volunteer and no one is forced to sign up.

          108. Will Higgins says

            Were the quote marks and the crazy face emoji to subtle.
            I don’t think any of that. If anything government funded is socialism, then the defense department is socialism. And I heard the thing about taxes from ancaps.

          109. Frank Taylor says

            Trying to include the defense department in socialism is a non issue. We have an all volunteer army. Our economy is free market. In socialist countries, the government controls the entire economy and in effect every person works for the government.

          110. Will Higgins says

            Again, that was a joke, if anything government funded is socialism, then so is the military.
            And the point of socialism is everything is publicly owned.

          111. ABO says

            Confused doesn’t even begin to cover it Robert but I think you’re on the right track.

          112. Rodney Steward says

            Well socialism hasn’t worked for Venezuela to well has it, their people are starving and are fighting over cats, rats and dogs to eat! The thing about socialism, you run out of other peoples money before long, and it has failed everywhere it has been tried!! Go back and color Willie!

          113. Will Higgins says

            That wasn’t my point.
            Socialist groups are the real anti-establishment in America.
            And since the Democratic Socialists of America have grown like hell under Trump, a lot of people think that way to.

          114. Jubal Durden says

            Socialism/communism hasn’t worked for China, North Korea, Cambodia, Venezuela, Vietnam, Cuba, the Soviet Union… and all the millions of people that they murdered.

          115. Rodney Steward says

            Exactly, basically all are like 3rd world countries!

          116. Jubal Durden says

            I think communist (or Soviet and Chinese allied countries) are officially 2nd world countries. Which are just 3rd world countries, with a murderous ideology.

          117. Rodney Steward says

            I agree friend, describes it better!

          118. 😈 Firebred ✓Vindicated says

            Exactly, and a crude, half-century-old military technology.

          119. Jubal Durden says

            When the majority of your naval fleet runs on diesel fuel, for engines that were made when Leave to Beaver was a hit… your military has issues.

          120. ABO says

            Congratulations, Dimwit! That has got to be the single most abysmally stupid collections of words I have observed in a very long time. You must have labored long and hard to come up with that gem of abject stupidity.

          121. Will Higgins says

            I was just stating a fact.

          122. ABO says

            I’d just love to hear your definition of “fact”.

          123. Will Higgins says

            A thing that is indisputable the case.

          124. ABO says

            “A thing that is indisputable the case’. What is your native language Higgy? Oh, and are you planning to study the English language at some point or will you simply continue to blab jibberish in place of English? Please don’t try to tell me that you actually expect anyone to believe anything you say when what you say is some sort of entirely indecipherable drivel the like of which you have presented to us here on this thread.

          125. boone1 says

            You stay a socialist POS but not me.

          126. Will Higgins says

            I’m not a socialist, I’m saying socialism is anti-establishment.

      2. Carol says

        And Obama was just a guy that got a bunch of Democrats to vote for him.

        1. Will Higgins says

          He got more votes then Trump, both times.

          1. Carol says

            Still won!

          2. Will Higgins says

            The fact that he got less votes drives him crazy.

          3. Carol says

            I don’t know if it does or not. Hillary getting more popular votes than he, bothers him I think. But most of her popular vote came from California. Thank God presidents aren’t elected through the popular vote, otherwise the entire country would be on a downward spiral just like California.

          4. Will Higgins says

            What would Clinton have done that was so bad?
            And it clearly drives Trump crazy, he started a whole conspiracy theory about it.

          5. Carol says

            Hillary and her kind only care about power! She insulted us because she can’t control us had to resort to name calling. How becoming for a presidential candidate. Now other than she has some things to answer to she is nothing! Gotta love it!

          6. Will Higgins says

            So you just ignoring all of Trump insults?

          7. Carol says

            President Trump didn’t insult an entire population of American citizens like she did. She made it clear that conservatives don’t mean anything to her. He picked on a deserving person here and their and quite frankly I thought his remarks were quite entertaining.

          8. Will Higgins says

            Yes, that one time Clinton said anything mean, then walked it back.

          9. Carol says

            Don’t recall her walking anything back. Did hear her and Michelle double down on conservative women. Look at how she treated her husbands women. She’s an advocate for women. Yeah right. No Hillary! Really she is a washed up has been.

          10. Will Higgins says

            She said she went to far with the ‘deplorable’ comment the Monday after her comment.

          11. Carol says

            Apologies usually begin with I’m sorry. Not the only reason I don’t like her but she’s out and never coming back. Tired of beating a dead horse. MAGA!

          12. Will Higgins says

            Conservatives are the ones talking about Clinton all the time.

          13. Carol says

            She has been really quiet lately. Wonder why? I’ll stop talking about her if you do.

          14. Will Higgins says

            Then I’ll stop talking about her.

          15. Carol says

            Ok Will. I appreciate your being respectful and kind, even if we do disagree.

          16. Frank Taylor says

            She refuses to go away and just keeps popping up on one show or another.

          17. Will Higgins says

            How many of those shows are on Fox News?

          18. Frank Taylor says

            She has not been a guest on fox. Ellen and some others and it continues to happen. Fox does show some of those interviews on other shows, with commentary on what she is saying.

          19. Will Higgins says

            Fox News talks about her the most.

          20. Frank Taylor says

            They only discuss her when she has appeared live on some show like Ellen and made some unfounded or incoherent comment. She need to go quietly into the night . No one really cares anymore what Clinton thinks or has to say. Her time has long passed now.

          21. Will Higgins says

            Again, tell it to Hannity.

          22. Frank Taylor says

            She lost so what she might have done if elected means nothing.

          23. Will Higgins says

            Yet conservatives like to talk about her?

          24. Frank Taylor says

            She violated laws that if either you or I and many others had broken, we would be in prison. Many have been convicted for far lesser crimes.

    3. Huaimek says

      The same may be said of Trump, another narcissist . America is running itself into the ground, first Bush, then Obama, now Trump, nothing changes for the better.

      1. Cookie Vranish says

        You never changed your diaper yet!

      2. Jubal Durden says

        I’m not sure what you’re doing in life to make that statement true, but maybe it’s time for you to make some changes for improvement.

      3. Mike with the Silver Star says

        If you were getting real news, instead of the BS CNN shoves down your throat, maybe you’ll find out that Trump has accomplished more in one year than Obama did in 8.Of course, if you don’t like your tax break you can always give it back to the IRS…

        1. Huaimek says

          I’m British , but with US children and grandchildren . I favoured Trump as an outsider and predicted he would win long before the election . There seem to be two types of news , internal and external . I have no idea where the internal news is to be found , so don’t know what good Trump has achieved . I only read US foreign affairs news which is disastrous , clearly Trump has his hands tied by the deep state preventing his better intentions . I am of the opinion that war is essential for the US to uphold its massive arms industry , without which the US economy will collapse .

          1. Rodney Dietz says

            Huaimek, 95% of the media here is Democrat and hates Trump!

            Imagine if a party in the British parliament was trying to take control of every aspect of your lives! Best method of swaying opinion around the world and in you’re home is to control the message.

            Sounds like something out of Hitlers play book and yet… it’s happening.

            Media, State schools, State leaders, State judges, FBI, DOJ….. the list is long of those controlling the message. And now opinion’s of other countries citisen’s since yours is here about our politics’s.

      4. Rodney Dietz says

        I agree with Durden, Huaimek! That’s the problem with most left leaning people today. They expect the government to make there lives better rather than go get what you want! Being smart, sometimes working hard, sometimes luck, but most of all not depending on government to make it happen!
        The only thing most people want government for is to protect our borders, up hold the constitution as written, fair laws and use our tax dollars wisely to help Americans! Not help them selves to it or give it away.

    4. Scuttlebutt says

      I personally know two of these people, that hate Trump & would never admit they were wrong. On one occasion, they talked about leaving the USA—HA!!!! They are still here:) BUT, they also say that if he runs again, they will vote Democrat for however runs. They are from the state of Maryland. If they were so unhappy with this event, I wonder why they are still here instead of Maryland:)????? We live in the Austin Texas area.

      1. dennis w says

        ALL ‘BLOW’ AND NO ‘GO’……………….
        TOTALLY WORTHLESS AND USELESS…………..

      2. Rodney Dietz says

        I live near Fort Worth, Same dip sticks here too. They moved here because of our steady economy. With the extreme influx of illegals, you would think the northerners here would appreciate Trumps changes. Guess that liberal brain washing just can’t be over come. But I’m hopeful!!

      3. AKLady says

        Start your education about Trump with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973. There are over 200 federal cases just like it. I guarantee his legal history is an eye opener. Then there are the over 3,000 civil court cases.

    5. boone1 says

      What the left is planning now is a CIVIL WAR and all the rick jews are right behind them.

      1. James says

        Never heard of a “rick” Jew, but if you meant ‘rich’; well some of them who are rich are indeed behind the leftists’ that’s how they got; (and intend to stay) rich. But be careful trying to put them all in the same basket. There are a good number of ‘rich’ Jews who are standing with D. Trump, and are in fact; backing MAGA!
        Don’t let anti-Semitism take away the true conservative spirit of real tolerance; not the fake tolerance of the left! The true haters and divisive party.

        1. boone1 says

          Hit the wrong key dude. like you never hit the wrong key before.

        2. boone1 says

          Just like a liberal thinking.

      2. Richard Start says

        Boone 1 and James don’t both of you miss the point of why so many people came to, created and still work so hard to keep OUR country working? It doesn’t matter who you are if you can live by the our laws and make a success of yourself you are free to do so in our country regardless of religious back ground, race creed or color. We do require citizenship because that is among our laws! There are other countries you can’t do this!
        We should not be pettey about who is rich! If you want to be rich work for it and quit whining!

        1. boone1 says

          I don’t like muslims and rich jews both want the US under communist control and if you can’t see that then you are the fool.

          1. Richard Start says

            Dear Lord God in Heaven Please help this person for this kind of hate is not a good thing for either the soul or the body and rots both from within. As President Trump said to us twice since coming to office “There is no room in a patriotic heart for racism”!
            If you want to be upset with a group look at Antifa. Anti fascism but they will not allow others to speak up with any ideas that oppose them. They show up with helmets, shields, clubs, faces covered like some fascist army to stop free speech! That is fascism. It is this group that will take where you fear long before those others they are just a focus group someone can use to gather others around them to follow blindly like Hitler did in WWII and that did not turn out well. After the war was over many went to jail or were hung for war crimes, much more then we read about in High school, around 5,000. Look it up

          2. boone1 says

            Best pray for your own soul asshole and leave mind along.

    6. AKLady says

      Look in the mirror.

        1. Geralt_0f_Rivia says

          LOL!

          1. 😈 Firebred ✓Vindicated says

            https://youtu.be/HCEZOppYjds

            It’s the season of grace coming out of the void
            Where a man is saved by a voice in the distance
            It’s the season of possible miracle cures
            Where hope is currency and death is not the last unknown
            Where time begins to fade
            And age is welcome home

            It’s the season of eyes meeting over the noise
            And holding fast with sharp realization
            It’s the season of cold making warmth a divine intervention
            You are safe here you know now

            Don’t forget
            Don’t forget I love
            I love
            I love you

            It’s the season of scars and of wounds in the heart
            Of feeling the full weight of our burdens
            It’s the season of bowing our heads in the wind
            And knowing we are not alone in fear
            Not alone in the dark

    7. Christine Glass says

      They have what they want so screw the rest of America.

      1. Jubal Durden says

        I think that a true narcissist doesn’t have a second thought. It’s not, “I have mine, so screw you.” It’s just, “I have mine.” They don’t care enough about you to even waste their time thinking about you. Their mindset is this, “Nothing exists, unless I’m looking directly at it.”

        1. Cletus B Neckbeard says

          Prezactly! Anymore consideration than that qualifies as “aerobics,” in their world.

        2. Christine Glass says

          Yes, you are correct.

  7. Justin Seine says

    Some of us whole hearted Trump supporters stuck in over taxed blue states just got our butts reamed. We are now relegated to subsidizing Wilbur Ross’ new private jet, Rex Tillerson’s next yacht and worse yet Linda Linton’s next $10,000 handbag which she won’t hesitate to rub in our faces. Zuckerberg, Kalinick, Thiel, Ellison, Hastings, Cook… and that bunch are dancing in the aisles while retired schmucks like me get the bill.

    1. bill14729 . says

      I agree with you as living in NY but if Big businesses invest back into the economy and others benefit in a good way I can live with that and if it gets to bad in NY we can always Move

      1. Will Higgins says

        You know, companies already said they are not putting their savings from the tax bill back into the economy.

        1. Retired says

          Oh yes they will , OFF Shore and give upper management big raises like the banks did after they started making money again .

          1. Will Higgins says

            Did you hear about how AT&T said they were giving out bonuses because of the tax cuts? They’re also laying a bunch of people off. http://www.newsweek.com/christmas-att-layoffs-midwest-bonuses-trump-758391

          2. Retired says

            They are not the only ones . Since summer many places raised the starting salary , not a big amount but 1-2 dollars per hour .

          3. Will Higgins says

            It’s still not because of Trump.

          4. Retired says

            You would not admit it if your life was dependent on it !!!

          5. Will Higgins says

            And you won’t admit it if Obama fixed the economy.

          6. Retired says

            When 9+ trillion was added to our debt that is not fixing the Economy . All he did was protect the Bankers – Freddy and Fanny . Gave Chrysler to Fiat and help GM build new Factories in Mexico and China . Job pay went below what people earned in the 90s . People lost their homes and savings . Savings went to .015 % and less , boy was that ever a economy boost .

          7. Will Higgins says

            All that happened before Obama.
            And most debt growth under Obama was from the recession.

          8. Retired says

            NO , NO it was what Obama added .

          9. ABO says

            I must say, Higgy that you are an extremely accomplished Dimwit. Really, you are exceptionally good at being the dim bulb in the room. Congratulations!

          10. Frank Taylor says

            Nearly of of those layoffs have been in the planning stage for some time and are management personnel.

          11. Will Higgins says

            Direct TV instulers and technician?
            And oh so the layoffs were already planned, but the also planned bonuses are because of the tax plain?

          12. ABO says

            What are instulers Higgy??? Don’t know any instulers.

          13. ABO says

            Ah, Newsweek. Must be all of your ‘sources’ are equally pathetic. Of course that explains why you are so entirely out of touch with the real world Higgy.

          14. Will Higgins says

            What’s wrong with Newsweek?

          15. ABO says

            Newsweek has nearly bankrupted itself through loss of sales over its penchant for bogus “news” stories. Where have you been???

          16. Will Higgins says

            It seems to be doing pretty good?

          17. ABO says

            Really??? Who told you that?

          18. Will Higgins says

            Just looking into them.

        2. ABO says

          Name one dimwit. And back it up with some verifiable link not HuffPo or Newsweek or one of your other fake news sources.

          1. Will Higgins says

            How about all but one of the DOW Jones?

          2. ABO says

            What an idiotic statement. Do you even know what the Dow Jones is???

          3. Will Higgins says

            Do you?
            I was just sitting a Martet Watch article.

      2. Retired says

        Remember the days of wage and price control , well the only thing that got controlled was wages .The working people have gotten it stuck to them for ever . Don’t forget the year Congress STOLE $100.00 from your SS check .8 years of Obama sticking it to the elderly and 2018 many went negative on their SS .

        1. Robert Dostoevsky says

          What?? How did Obama stick it to the elderly? What do you mean by going negative on SS in 2018?

          1. Retired says

            Did you forget about the ACA , that has been hashed enough that you should know it by now . Prices went up during Obama and SS increases stayed Down . Medicare fee was increased . For 2018 many on SS will get less than 2017 ,Again thanks to hidden Issues thanks to ACA and insurance Co. . Get your head out of the sand ,some have said it right here and I have friends it is actually going to happen to .

          2. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Where do you get your BS? 2018 SS increased and what does the ACA have to do with the elderly?

          3. Retired says

            There is no increase if people are getting less in 2018 than in 2017 !!! Go read the 2700 pages of the ACA . The way insurance increases are based for supplement insurance and the same goes for Medicare .That is how the Elderly got the shaft .

          4. Robert Dostoevsky says

            I usually have trouble understanding your convoluted posts but this one is the worst. What does the ACA have to do with Medicare? I am especially confused since you think SS payments are less since everyone I know is getting an increase.

          5. Retired says

            The way insurance costs are figured for Medicare B and D [ drug plan] put people in the hole . What is so hard to understand ??? There was a $25.00 increase just for Medicare B which was more than over half of the 2 % .

    2. Valor says

      Are you confined with chains to stay in NY? I won’t even set foot in that state, much less live there. Think about this! When the Demorats succeed in taking total control over the entire nation what you have in NY, CA and other such states will be the future of America.

      1. pappy450 says

        Some of us just don’t have the “funds” to pull up stakes and move to another State.
        I am up in “northern” N.Y. and things aren’t TOO bad, BUT we have NO VOTE “up here”, because we are always “outvoted” by N.Y. city and other “big city” dwellers and of course the WELFARE recipients, that LOVE the DEMOCOMMIES, because they GIVE them everything they want to keep them on their “plantation” for VOTES. (And lastly, our “governor” is a corrupt crook with a “king” complex that “rules” behind closed doors)

    3. Will Higgins says

      Trump is just for the rich.

      1. dennis w says

        THEN WITH HIS HELP I’M GONNA GET RICH………I’LL SHOW HIM……

        1. Will Higgins says

          Do you even know how a waelth gap works?

          1. Frank Taylor says

            You could take all of the asset of every citizen and divide them equally among all citizens and within twenty years, you would be close to the same so called wealth inequality that you talk about. Most people simply do not handle money well.

          2. Will Higgins says

            I was saying Trump isn’t going to make any new people rich.

          3. Frank Taylor says

            Trump has never claimed to do that. The tax cuts will not make any one rich but a lot of people will have some extra money to spend. How much depends on individual situations.

          4. Will Higgins says

            I was talking about another comment.

          5. ABO says

            From one of your friends from outer space???

          6. ABO says

            You had better explain it to us Higgy. Some of us don’t understand. PLEASE explain it. This should be absolutely hilarious!

          7. ABO says

            What is a waelthe gap Higgy???

      2. Carol says

        No Will he is not. He feels most comfortable with the workers, cab drivers, jack hamner operators. He loves blue collar. He admires hard work and perseverance. He grew up in a family where everyone went to work at a very young age. This is the way he raised his own kids too.

        1. Robert Zraick says

          Will is a broken record.

          1. Carol says

            He sure is.

          2. ABO says

            And the needle is getting really dull.

        2. Will Higgins says

          Trump likes people who praise.
          He doesn’t know what it’s like for coal miners, or truck drivers, and any of the blue collar workers he got to vote from him.

          1. Carol says

            well unless you work in one of those fields, I would assume nobody would know what its like. Doesn’t mean you don’t understand or want good things for them and other blue collar workers. He’s been called the blue collar billionaire before. He understands. He understands the people that voted and made him President.

          2. Will Higgins says

            He know how to sell thing to people, doesn’t mean he understands them.

          3. Carol says

            Their you go will, insulting 65 million American citizens that voted for Trump! If we were as gullible as you would like to think, we would of voted for Hillary.

          4. Will Higgins says

            I was insulting Trump the people who thought Clinton was pandering, but voted who said what they wanted to hear.

          5. ABO says

            Were you at lunch when the brains were handed out Higgy???

          6. hangem'high says

            Bet cha’ You don’t either?

          7. Will Higgins says

            I actually do know what it’s to work.

          8. hangem'high says

            So how do U like live’n from payday to payday watching KuntKaps pushing our jobs overseas, while Maxi Pad Walters, Poke A Haun Azz, and Killary jump from big mansion to mansion in privet jets? At least we can see how our tax money is being spent.

          9. Will Higgins says

            Trump is a huge exporter.

          10. hangem'high says

            That’s good to know MORE money to be made, Better than importing sugar?

          11. Will Higgins says

            I meant outsourcer.

      3. hangem'high says

        So R U rich now?

        1. Will Higgins says

          No.

          1. hangem'high says

            Doesn’t sound like the homoinchief, O Bummer delivered anything to the American dead beet, But a Kenyan screwing?

          2. Will Higgins says

            What about all the jobs created under Obama?

          3. hangem'high says

            Trump is weeding out all those deadbeat millionaires. Its call draining the swamp!

          4. Will Higgins says

            How, his cabinet is stuffed with underqualified billionaires!?

          5. Frank Taylor says

            Everyone is not a billionaire. In fact i can not think of even one that is that rich. Everyone is qualified especially those in key military or defense postitions. Carson did have no actual HUD experience but due to hard work has learned what he did notknow.

          6. Will Higgins says

            What about Mnuchin, he used to work at Goldmansaks.
            And what Carson done that’s so great?

      4. ABO says

        And you at a complete idiot.

  8. gotabgood says
    1. Valor says

      Is that a self portrait?

    2. hangem'high says

      “U have to pass it before U can read it. Guess what? The Demo-turds never read it even after passing it.

      1. gotabgood says

        And neither did the Republicans who put us 1.5 trillion dollars in debt while in Trumps first year. More to come??
        Oh you bet, according to Ryan, next year we start on Medicare and entitlements
        House Speaker Paul Ryan wants to cut Medicare, punishing a key part of the GOP’s base – older Americans
        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/09/paul-ryan-wants-to-cut-medicare-and-stick-to-gops-base.html

        1. hangem'high says

          Did U get on any of that cash setting up the Demo -Turds web site?

  9. gotabgood says

    Another thing about this tax cut that will affect ObamaCare….
    The Democrats had nothing to do with it… Quite unlike your input with ObamaCare.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1fd14f3cf5ce27f64e6032cb681fd11aa7b5c566443bc4f66abdd2144a21451b.jpg

  10. VirgoVince says

    As much as dumocommies HATE TRUTH AND FACTS:
    the TRUTH AND FACTS ARE, they ARE WRONG!!
    So, they NEED to STFU and GET OVER IT!!

  11. MichaelZZ says

    ANY POLITICIAN PROMOTING “REPATRIATION” SHOULD GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL, i.e., DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200

    We are being told, by many politicians and commentators who represent themselves as being knowledgeable in economics and politics, that 2 to 5 trillion dollars of corporate profits are offshore and the mantra is that Congress should provide an incentive for corporations to bring home (repatriate) those profits for the purpose of stimulating our economic growth.

    The story is that corporations would have to pay a “penalty” if they were to repatriate those profits in the normal course of business. The “penalty” would be the income taxes they owe on those offshore profits.

    Why should a corporation’s offshore tax liability be called a penalty? Simple answer is that it is not a penalty and should not be characterized as a “penalty”. It is federal income tax, which has been deferred. Why has it been deferred? Congress passed legislation permitting subsidiaries, which operate and make profits offshore, to defer the federal income taxes assessed on that income until they pay dividends to the domestic parent corporation. That ability to defer taxes provides an advantage to these subsidiaries versus domestic operations, which doesn’t make any sense.

    This deferral “feature” enables offshore operations to defer payment of tax obligations, in perpetuity, which is an incentive for our multi-national corporations to produce offshore, to the detriment of domestic operations, which reduces our nation’s economics, including reducing our employment.

    In 2004, Congress legislated a “repatriation” holiday whereby those profits repatriated were assessed only 5.25% rather than the 35% owed, thus Congress benefitted these corporations to the detriment to U.S. taxpayers and negatively affected our national debt. The effect was to reduce the taxes owed by 85%. In essence Congress appears to have participated in an embezzlement of the taxpayers for the benefit of the multi-national corporations.

    The solution to this nonsense is to repeal the special dispensation provision given to multi-national corporations, which would benefit our economics, whereby, at the minimum:
    1. Corporations would pay their taxes on offshore profits.
    2. Eliminate this incentive to produce offshore.
    3. Reduce our national debt.
    4. Stops the conspiracy of embezzling from non-multi-national corporate taxpayers and the United States.
    5. Increase employment.

    Whereas this deferral “concept” is damaging to our nation, some of these same people are beginning to advocate for the complete elimination of federal taxes on offshore profits by promoting the concept of “territorial” taxation whereby taxes are only paid in the nation producing profits.

    ANY politician advocating the continuance of this deferral or total elimination of taxes on offshore operations should be charged with conspiracy to defraud and embezzle the United States of America.

    We, the People, have the right to believe that Congress should legislate laws that benefit our nation.

    It appears that Congress has stimulated the morphing of our nation from “Of the People, by the People, and for the People” to “Of, by and for corporations”, beginning with ERISA in 1974 (esoteric).

    In regards to “Main Street” and “Wall Street”, Congress must direct most, if not all, of its energies to “Main Street”. Wall Street is a derivative of Main Street. Since ERISA, the reverse has been done, i.e., the emphasis has been placed upon Wall Street.

    mz, Sep. 25, 2017
    mikiesmoky@aol.com

    1. David in MA says

      I would like to see products made in other countries be sold in America for what they would be sold for in the country of origin, plus sales tax, of course.

      1. SNUFFER says

        they would have to be damn cheap and better than made in the usa- for me to use them in my race shop daily. but i do have one machine that the tolerances are better than the one i can buy and its made here. its a 20 year old machine and has not need even a motor- it just goes every day except sunday and today. i guess i got a good one huh!

  12. higgy01 says

    These whinny, anti-Trump libtards, RINOs and empty headed wackos will never admit Trump is doing a good job let alone he may turn out to be the best president we have ever had. Some tell me those like Kristol and Wills are very intelligent but I have concluded they are just non compos types with big mouths and a craving for attention.

    1. cristoiglesia says

      First of all…most, if not all, never Trumper’s are conservatives to the far right like myself and are the opposite of the leftist liberals that support Trump. We see leftist Republicans like yourself as liberals since you support the most far left liberal Democrat to ever become POTUS with no basis for that support other than celebrity envy. We see that as a shallow and ignorant and uninformed way to choose a candidate. Personally as a far right lifetime conservative Republican I will never vote for or support in any way this lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue Trump. We remain conservative Republican’s to the end. The only basis for your support of Trump is celebrity envy and we are immune to such foolishness but are instead informed voters with unwavering and uncompromising conservative values.

      1. geo2man says

        nope

      2. Robert Uda says

        You are a far-right idiot all right. Are you a skinhead, militia, redneck, Nazi, KKK, racist, or any of those types? Which one are you? Extreme rightists are as bad as extreme leftists.

        1. Miyako says

          YEAH..so are Israeli ‘Firsters’. BLIND Fools With Open Wallets”! The GOY is To Dumb For Them”!

      3. Rodney Dietz says

        You’re pretty narcissistic to think there’s some large far right group you fit into that that hates Trump. Most if not all Liberals despise Trump for taking the election away from them. That makes you as ignorant as the far left brainwashed idiots. Voting for an idea of conservationism or Liberalism rather than the issues that real middle class Americans face makes you just ignorant. Trump is fixing issues that every day Americans face, not some fringe group you profess to belong to. Why don’t you just admit, you’re either well to do and look down on middle class society or you think only professional politicians can destroy the country the way you want?

        1. ABO says

          Well said, Rodney. Concise and accurate.

      4. hangem'high says

        So U have Christian values???? Or are U pretend Christian when it suits U???

        All I know, is U don’t know chet!

    2. Robert Uda says

      I would rather call Billy Kristol and George Will as just pure idiots. How they got as high as they did is beyond comprehension. They are useless people of the Repugnant Establishment.

  13. Donald Lindsey says

    The DC demo’s need to face it, they are stupid and same sex brain dead

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Abd on their way out.

  14. Bob Pante says

    Don’t change a thing. Best show around is Trump trolling these Nut Jobs.

  15. Mathew Molk says

    How could the not be dumb? They would have rather sabotaged the President and split the party and insure the cackling witch’s victory. That would be inductive of one of two thingslly, either they are damn fools, or they are actually NWO Marxists disguised as RINOs. I put RINO Rob Portman and John Kay-Suck at the very top of the list. Ohioans, and the rest of the country. Remember what they did if you ever see ether name on a ballot.

    1. cristoiglesia says

      It is Trump who has split the party and not those of us holding to our conservative values and loyalty to our party. We do not vote against candidates but for them and a lifetime far left liberal Democrat like Trump is not at all appealing to us conservative Republicans. I have not and never will vote for the leftists like Trump even if they change parties and pretend that they are suddenly conservative and Republican like Trump acted. Trumpists’ are the newly created left by Trump from former conservative Republicans who have capitulated to the left.. We conservative Republicans remain true to our conservative ideology and will not vote for those that oppose conservatism like does Trump. We are convinced that those supporting this lifetime far left liberal Democrat are the fools and not those of us who remain true to our conservative ideology. We do not vote against candidates but for them and we simply had no dog in this fight as both candidates were far left liberal Democrats. In the last election there were only leftists Democrats as Presidential candidates and voting for leftist Democrats even if they ran as a Trojan Horse like Trump was not a palatable choice so most of us refrained from voting and some voted for the lesser of these two evil leftists which was Trump’s best friend Hillary.

  16. Valor says

    Don’t hold your breath! Besides, I don’t give a hoot what these “Never Trumpers” have to say about anything. Anyone who would rather throw this nation under the bus with the election of Hillary than suck it up when they didn’t get their way isn’t worthy of respect.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      I’ll drink to that.

  17. comanchewill says

    I knew way back in the 2012 election cycle Donald Trump was THE MAN….I heard him speak once about not running during that election and I was very disappointed….his words touched something inside me called “common sense” that eventually ended up touching the majority of all AMERICANS

    1. Valor says

      Not All Americans. There are far too many who still have their heads up their backsides. Those unable to think for themselves, those that have bought into the radical left’s siren song.

      1. Mathew Molk says

        And the nanny state free stuff – Teacher’s unions too.

  18. Dirty Daug says

    It’s either that the never Trumpers are much too stupid to admit that they were wrong or that they were going to loose the money they line their pockets with. In time I’m hoping these crooks go to prison for their stealing from America. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5929f21f718005a67921cffbd577eb9c057c6a50c405353feb462130424052b.jpg

  19. Phil Esposito says

    Everybody needs to focus on the 2018 elections. We’ve got to get rid of every democrat and RINO and MAGA.

  20. cristoiglesia says

    Almost everyday Trump proves that we “never Trumpers” are correct. He is just a continuation of the Obama Presidency. It was Trump who bragged over and over again about Obama being a great POTUS after he used his influence as a Democrat insider to get Obama nominated and then with the help of his good friend George Soros funded Obama’s campaign.

  21. John Williams says

    Admitting they are wrong has nothing to do with it, for them it is all about the agenda, if Trump wants it, they won’t want it, if Trump dosen’t want it they will want it. It has nothing to do with the health of our economy, it has nothing to do with helping the nation or it’s people, they simply must be against Trump. Consider the credibility of who you are dealing with, we had at least 18 months of these people telling us how bad Trump would be beat, 18 months of them, their leftist buddies, the leftist lap dog media, the leftist biased pollsters and the leftist talking heads, ALL telling us just how bad it was going to be for Trump. Them, their leftist buddies, the leftist lap dog media, the leftist biased pollsters and the leftist talking heads, were ALL wrong, with credibility like that, there is no reason to listen to anything anyone of them has to say.

  22. Will Higgins says
    1. Frank Taylor says

      Just what actions did Obama take other than borrowing money for the stimulus package to bring our economy back.

      1. Will Higgins says

        Maybe that all he needed. Or maybe is was consumer safe guards.
        What has Trump done?

        1. Frank Taylor says

          you have problem with big corporations getting money. Were you aware that the stimulus bailed out GM and Chrylsler , plus the banks who made those bad loans. Solyndra was a green company and got millions but went belly up. Reagan said it best. “Government does not solve problems, Government is the problem” Trump simply got government out of the way and the economy did the rest. Beyond the Stimulus Obama did nothing. He believed that the Government could solve the problem. WRONG~!

          1. Will Higgins says

            I’m not a fan of Reagan’s stance on economics. Sometimes a little government aid helps out a lot.
            If it helps the whole country, and dosen’t take much away from other things, I don’t mind.

          2. Frank Taylor says

            Look at money spent on entitlement programs. Statistics say that of every 5 persons who go on welfare only 1 comes off welfare at end of year one. That leaves 4 that stay on more than one year. In fact 1 of every five is still on welfare after 5 years. some states pay recipients more than minimum wage and there is little pressure for them to seek employment. Why get off welfare when you can get more money than you would by going to work. Give a hand up but avoid making them so dependent on welfare.

          3. Will Higgins says

            If you ask anyone on welfare, they’ll tell you they want to get off.

          4. Frank Taylor says

            Many are trapped once they get on. In some instances, Welfare pays more than they would make in a minimum wage job. Why go to work when you can get more by staying on welfare. I like the unemployment insurance approach. When a person loses their job, the time is limited on how long they can draw unemployment. Maybe we could cut welfare cost by finding them a job, requiring them to take it and making up for any financial loss after a certain period. only one in five leaves welfare the first year. Another one in five is still on welfare after five years. Maybe they do want off but have no incentive to get off.

          5. Will Higgins says

            People are required to take any job other they get while on welfare.

          6. Frank Taylor says

            I think I will stick with my last comment on this. One in five are still not working after five years.

          7. Will Higgins says

            As some who’s been to a lot of interviews, and not that many jobs, I can say find a job can be a slow process.

          8. Frank Taylor says

            Job hunting is much like working. To find the right one, You must spend at least 4 hours every day looking and even contacting those with whom you have applied. I could always find a job within a couple of weeks when I was younger. I worked all my contacts and called everyone i knew for suggestions and references.

          9. Will Higgins says

            Well you had better luck then I did.

          10. Frank Taylor says

            I made my job hunts a full time job and left no stone unturned. Job hunting is hard and requires a lot of hard work and attention and calls back to places you have applied. I used every source available to find openings and sent out thousands of applications, some delivered in person. I followed up on every application.

          11. Will Higgins says

            A applied to every job I could be qualify for. All kinds of animal care, and Service based jobs. A few I lost for small technical reason, the most irksome memory was been I spend a weekend trying to get in touch with a manager about a job I all but had only to have him tell he gave the job to someone else.

          12. Frank Taylor says

            i never said it is easy and the turn downs are disheartening. You have to get up every week day and look for what is available. For a quick fix, you might give the temporary agencies a shot. Many of those short term jobs can lead to full time permanent work. Use government agencies and every employment agency out there. Check all available classifieds including on line. 8 hours five days a week until you find something.

          13. Will Higgins says

            That’s what I’ve been doing.
            Not looking for sympathy, saying I’ve had my own life experience, I still live with my family so my situation is stable, by I keep looking.

          14. Frank Taylor says

            I was showing respect that you are looking . Every day has to be a new search. Check out some of the temporary agencies. They make money by connecting employers with a person for a short term need. Pay is not great but I did that when I first moved from California back to Florida. Keep looking every day and God will provide. How long have you been looking. and where do you now live.

          15. Will Higgins says

            I was looking for a while in New York. I got a holiday job at department store. Could have gone back a year ago, but I was in the process of moving. In hind sight I could have it because the move a detailed by I did know that at the time. Now I’m in Arkansas and have been working more towards get my driver license (that’s another story).

          16. Frank Taylor says

            $2 trillion in about two years is a lot of government waste. It was not spent wisely. If it had made its way to our taxpayers, the impact would have been much stronger. some companies were allowed to just go belly up, I guess it was a lot of who knows who.

          17. Will Higgins says

            What about the companies that didn’t go belly up?

          18. Frank Taylor says

            There are some, but the fact is that green energy is not economically feasable. Some are still in business but I can not think of even one that has made any dent in providing green energy that makes sense financially.

          19. Will Higgins says

            Coal isn’t that practical either. Coal is being used less.

          20. Frank Taylor says

            With the low cost of natural gas and the low cost for recovery compared to coal, it is being used less. It is still practical but the cost efficiency has caused a decline in use.

          21. Will Higgins says

            It’s also requiring less people to mine coal, that’s why miners are losing their jobs.

          22. Frank Taylor says

            A little government is cool. What we have is way beyond being a small government.

          23. Will Higgins says

            Conservatives think anything Democrats do is big government.

          24. Frank Taylor says

            this one is not even worth a response. Oops i responded.

          25. Will Higgins says

            It’s called hyper-partisanship.

          26. Frank Taylor says

            I am in favor of small government and think that our current federal government have their nose in far too much, including things they have to borrow money to fund like entitlements.

          27. Will Higgins says

            And I doubt just shouting “big government sucks!” help much.

          28. Frank Taylor says

            Just shouting anything does not help. I think government is way too big and much too powerful and infringes on our lives way too much. The tracking of phone calls and emails by domestic citizens should be illegal and considered an invasion of our rights to privacy, but it does happen.I have worked by butt off to get politicians to look at waste in our government and to bring some control to entitlement spending but so far it has been wasted effort. Entitlements exceed $2.5 trillion every year and we borrow much of that money which increases our debt and the interest on our debt rises accordingly. I make thousands of calls every year trying to bring attention to serious problems and have failed, but i will continue working on that as long as my health allows. I am now 72 years of age and pushing 73.

          29. Will Higgins says

            A lot of what you don’t like was put in place by conservatives.

          30. Frank Taylor says

            I am not sure what things you are talking about.

          31. Will Higgins says

            The patriot act, which allowed a lot of what you mentioned came from the Bush area.

          32. Frank Taylor says

            I was not a great fan of bush and think patriot act went way too far. Most of the heavy privacy abuses happened under Obama.

          33. Will Higgins says

            Did Obama order it? Contrary to what a lot of people think, the president doesn’t have asolute control over everything in the government.

  23. Huaimek says

    I’m a Trump supporter, even so I see his presidency as pretty disastrous, but anything is better than Hilary Clinton. Neither of these people are competent to be president. If Americans weren’t so dim and I’ll informed, they should be ashamed of there government and the mess it it making in world affairs .

  24. Robert Uda says

    The “Never Trumpers” will never admit that they were wrong because they are too stupid. If they weren’t stupid, they would never have been “Never Trumpers” in the first place. So, can you see why they won’t ever admit they were wrong? Stupidity is rampant in the Repugnant Party.

  25. Cookie Vranish says

    It is more personal than principle! These are swamp people that are very hateful to anyone from the outside!

  26. Richard Start says

    This group mostly watches one-sided news and may never realize they are walking around in a dark room even after Trump has completed his term or terms in office. They’ll be just like the quaint forgotten people who don’t believe we landed on the moon and others like them.

    1. Swampfox1965 says

      The NEWS is only one sided: the truth. Now if you want to throw the Fake NEWS purveyors in the main stream media, we do view only the right side — the truth.

      1. Richard Start says

        I’m sorry for you Swamp fox as you don’t have a clue as to how many times this has happened or in how many countries around our world, it’s an old game. Control the flow of information and upset the public then topple a government! We are not any safer then those who came before us but the same is happening to us. with the help of our own media! AND you are not paying attention!
        Half the country is up in arms for different reasons. One sees our Constitution being violated and election results ignored over false accusations that don’t add up even in the news! I’ve noticed those news groups you like ignore stories the Senate had Hearings on that would have freaked you out! Then Project Veritas showed us more! Ignored again! Why?
        Dose not fit into their political narrative! Sell a country cheap for a part of the market share! I’ll vote for those I want to run our country before letting a few editors make those decisions for me. I don’t imagine this makes any sense to you as a member of the herd. MOO. Just let the media push you into the decisions best for you.

        1. Swampfox1965 says

          You don’t read too well, Richard. You and I are definitely on the same conservative end of the spectrum. Being retired I have the benefit of being able to spend several hours a day reading internet articles on the more important issues of the day. I also belong to a Yahoo group comprised of nearly 400 Naval Academy graduates, many of whom are Navy admirals and Marine Corps generals; our discussions span national defense and the preservation of our Constitution. I’d wager I’m far more informed on what’s happening to our country today — and what happened to it during the eight years of Obama rule — than you are.

          1. Richard Start says

            Your credentials are admirable as well as the intent of your feelings towards the truth of news but presentation is everything! By this I mean when I can watch Senate Hearings that excoriate the IRS and show them to be operating like a small time racket for the benefit of one political Party bringing to bear the full might of the United States Government against Citizens who donate to the GOP and witness after witness only those donating to the GOP are targeted but NOTHING is mentioned in the news about it I know truth is not the issue, presentation is! When I was stationed at Luke AFB I drove in traffic jams. Bored one day I even went so far as to listen to Rush LImbagh. It was no big deal except that night on my usual news they misrepresented a joke he made! He was obviously clowning around but even at that they misrepresented it! Because of that I paid more attention to him and others like him. What I found was beneath their rhetoric the news they did discuss was relevant and weeks or months ahead of my regular news! It was the truth in a timely fashion! Eventually the others have to report the truth but guys like him reported it far sooner and were scoffed at as liars. NBC has been known to leave out parts of tapes leaning stories the direction they want them to go. and Project Veritas has them on tap pushing the Russian Collusion story even though on a separate tape they have another of their people calling it a big “Nothing Burger”! To tell the truth anyone who has followed the news constantly and deeply would or should know that! Sergi was a socialite who was even over to the homes of some Senators for dinner! If you saw him on the town he came by your table to say hello because he never ignored anyone! That was his job as an ambassador wasn’t it? Who in government would want to create an international incident by insulting him until it was part of a bigger political game? And we think those clowns in Washington are savvy? To hang onto political power here they messed it up on the world stage! Dopes.
            I wonder if your Admiral friends have put together how this game has handed OPEC to Russia and just maybe NATO when they get tight for oil. How many other countries could Russia swing if they get a stronger hold on OPEC all for political power at home? Dopes

            Truth is one thing but who is reporting all of it accurately and not pushing agendas that will cost us our individual freedoms in the end? I don’t want to live in a George Orwell book like Animal farm where we are slowly tricked into giving up our rights or one of his other more dubious plots. My father came from the cold war era and explained how small countries were flipped during that time. Corrupting the news and educational institutions was how you started and our news is shaky not to mention colleges turning out Antifa!

          2. Swampfox1965 says

            As I said, Richard, we’re on the same side. Have a safe and Happy New Year.

          3. Richard Start says

            May you also enjoy your Happy New Year celebrations, more importantly the morning after.

          4. Swampfox1965 says

            Cold to freezing rain is forecast for New Year’s Eve here in Central Mississippi, and it won’t get above freezing all day Monday. My bride and I will in all likelihood celebrate in warm, cozy comfort of our rural home. We ventured out one New Year’s Eve about 10 years ago when it was snowing; almost didn’t get home! Never again!!

  27. Deplorable Lanie says

    Never Trumpers are never going to admit that an upstart non politician is actually doing a great job. They are traitors to America and to the true patriots. Kasich thinks he can run again but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result! I would put HilLIARy in that category too.

  28. donl says

    Never happen, they are to Greedy and Very Gullible. Tell them your a Democrat and they will believe anything you say. Buy them a nice steak dinner and they will pay you back with a hotdog. Isn’t that right Mr. Schumer.

  29. Jack Hills says

    I’ma never Hillary guy. And I am oh so happy!

    1. Retired says

      She or Sanders would have created the next financial crisis .

      1. ABO says

        Built on the foundation laid in place by Barack Hussein Obama. Absolutely correct Retired.

  30. robert sanders says

    COME ON LIBERALS, BE AN AMERICAN AGAIN. MAGA