CPAC Speaks Out Against Gun Control

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Pro-gun activists made a big splash at the Conservative Political Action Conference this weekend, using the annual event to talk about Second Amendment freedoms in a way that CNN’s January town hall show did not. And it was that town hall, held to allow President Obama to explain and defend his unconstitutional executive actions, that came under intense criticism on Saturday.

At the “Thank Goodness for Guns in America” panel, the term “gun control infomercial” was used to describe the program. And one of the individuals who challenged Obama in that televised event also appeared on the panel. Kimberly Corban, a rape survivor, asked Obama on CNN why he wanted to take away the very rights that would have helped her protect herself. At CPAC, Corban slammed Obama for not giving her a decent answer and instead using it as an opportunity to turn a “political pivot” back to his prepared comments.

Sheriff David Clarke, one of the nation’s fiercest critics of the Obama administration, said Saturday that the Constitution was extremely important to him and other Americans. “These are your rights,” he said. “I am a defender of your rights.”

As an African-American, Clarke said that gun rights held special significance to him. “Slaves plus guns equaled freedom,” he said.

On Thursday, NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre kicked off the conference by vowing to fight against Hillary Clinton if she became president in November. “Mrs. Clinton, if you want to come after the NRA, and if you want to fight over the God-given rights of America’s 100 million gun owners, if you want to turn this election into a bare-knuckled brawl for the survival of our constitutional freedoms, bring it on,” he said.

While the Second Amendment rhetoric at the event at uncompromising, some attendees thought CPAC’s own event rules ran counter to the ideology. Metal detectors were placed at the entrances next to signs reading: Absolutely No Weapons Allowed.

Interviewed by the Daily Beast, an attendee named Robert Owens said he had a problem with the policy. “I don’t like it,” he told the website. “I just think that the Second Amendment would allow somebody to carry a firearm wherever they choose to carry a firearm. There shouldn’t be a limit to it. Once you start one limit, it’s a continuous slide about eliminating the right.”

While there’s an obvious difference between government gun laws and the policies of a private event, the NRA and other pro-gun groups have explicitly challenged the idea of “gun-free zones” in the past. On the other hand, CPAC had plenty of armed security, which makes it different to college campuses and movie theaters where would-be criminals can freely open fire without worrying about armed retaliation.

323 Comments
  1. TOM P O'DONNELL says

    THOSE WHO WANT YO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY INTEND TO KILL YOU.

    GETTING SENTIMENTAL OVER TRUMP

    DID YOU EVER SEE RINOS AND THE MEDIA JOIN WITH THE COMMUNIST PARTY TO STOP EL TRUMPO

    FIX NEWS IS AN OBVIOUS DISGRACE. WHEN DID THE PRE PROGRAMMED MODERATORS BECOME CANDIDATES?

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/s

    1. jscarano7 says

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      1. tomneale says

        LOUDER! I CAN’T READ YOU!

      2. marlene says

        ABSOLUTELY!

    2. tomneale says

      The Communist Party has influence in this country? Are you living in the 30’s?

      1. TOM P O'DONNELL says

        ARE YOU LIVING IN LA LA LAND? EVER HEARD OF THE BRECHT FORUM?

        1. tomneale says

          Close to Lala Land. Thanks, had not heard of it.
          Here’s what I found:
          ”From October, 1975 to May, 2014, the Brecht Forum/New York Marxist
          School was a place for people working for social justice, equality and a
          new culture that puts human needs first. Through its classes and
          events, the Brecht Forum brought people together across social and
          cultural boundaries and artistic and academic disciplines to promote
          critical analysis, creative thinking, collaborative projects and
          networking in an independent community-level environment. This site is
          being maintained as an archive”
          . Apparently they were SO successful that by 2014 they could no longer afford to rent space in NYC and shut down.
          Any other tips on Commie influence in 2016?

      2. SNuss says
    3. George says

      How did you get to be so ignorant , naive ‘ and stupid , in only one lifetime ?

  2. DustyFae says

    If the Government are the only ones to have guns, then it is not any better then the dictators in other countries.. Look at the real People over there and the trouble they are forced to live under..

    1. MAHB001 says

      “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
      ——Lenin

      That is the ONLY reason 0-bama pushes gun control. PERIOD.

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        1. MAHB001 says

          Second Flag Scum Puppet 3/7/16

        2. tomneale says

          As Trump would say: ”GET HER OUTTA HERE! GET HER OUT!”

      2. Jimmy Quick says

        Ready to get jealous? West Virginia goes permitless handgun conceal/carry on May 26, 2016. State Congress overrode Governors veto on Saturday.

        One can only hope that more states will wake up and smell the coffee before it is too late.

        1. SNuss says

          Sadly, there is little chance of that, here in the Democrat Peoples’ Republic of Illinois.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            Yep! Only criminals are allowed to have guns in the Lincoln State. Wonder why no one ever visits?

          2. George says

            In response to your post ‘ ; I am spending the winter in AZ. this year , and after I introduced myself as being from IL. ; the gentleman’s reply was ; ” Oh ‘ , the ‘ Communist ‘ state ” . Thinking he was kidding ; I expected him to be smiling or laughing ; but ; he was serious ‘ .

            I am saying now , that I hail’ from east of the Mississippi ‘ .

          3. Jimmy Quick says

            Well, some things are better unsaid.

          4. Ron says

            That is not true. I live in Illinois, I have a FOID and ccw permit, but they really ARE mad at guns here. The only reason they finally allowed concealed carry is because they were the very last state to comply, and the courts forced them into compliance. It is practically an all Democrat (I am NOT one) state, unfortunately, and they make it very expensive for a person to obtain the FOID (which is a big JOKE) and then to pay for the ccw permit and the ccw class. Altogether, for my wife and I to legally comply with Illinois ridiculous laws, it cost me $1000 for both of us! When I lived in Missouri, it was about $150, and in Arizona, it was $90 for the class, and $40 for the permit. A whole lot different than Illinois! I still can’t understand why Illinois is broke. They are the 2nd most corrupt state in the Union(perhaps even the 1st), and their taxes are probably 1st or 2nd, as well.I am not sure why ANYONE would want to live here. The only reason I am here is because of my wife’s job, otherwise, I would (and will) try to get as far away from this state as I possibly can! Take my word for it, if you do not absolutely have to, do not come anywhere near this state.

          5. Jimmy Quick says

            Take them to court. According to the Supreme court, state have neither rights or obligations to charge people fro a right that is guaranteed free and clear in the US Constitution.

            The more people that fight back, the safer we all will be.

          6. Tom says

            Just kill the treasonous tyrants.

          7. Jimmy Quick says

            We need to act civilized, or we are no better than them.

        2. MAHB001 says

          A state after my own heart… Way to go.

          There is a lot of work that needs to be done in CA if and only if the Californians want to do something about it. The corruption is so deep that many will get General Petraeus’d in the process of exposing it.

          As we all know, wrongful convictions are now part of the States punishment for talking out and standing firm.

          1. hankthetank says

            The democrat’s will never let that happen! too, many democrats in CA. !!!

          2. MAHB001 says

            We will have to see, after the corruption is exposed, who knows what the truth is before then.

          3. Rev. Harry Davies says

            The only democrats in CA are the ones holding office, its the voting process, some of those people have been in office for years. (MONEY)

          4. TAM44 says

            The law breaking illegals already control California thanks to jerry brown the piece of obama squeeze he is. When it’s brown flush it down, but those idiots in California has a taste for $hit.

          5. Jimmy Quick says

            The judicial system is ripe for an overhaul.

          6. George says

            The ” Communist ” administration , is ripe for an overhaul .

          7. Joseph Kiesznoski says

            YES, liberal democrat carpet baggers.

          8. tomneale says

            HOO HAW! RIGHT ON! Shoot all the mofo’s!

          9. Joseph Kiesznoski says

            YES

        3. James Baker says

          Kansas allready has it.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            So, we’re gonna play that game. LOL

          2. George says

            And AZ.’

        4. h m rowland says

          Too late for what? Blood in West Virginia streets? More dead 3 year olds shooting themselves? What are you people afraid of? It must be terrible to live in fear. 53 gun deaths in Great Britain since 1960, U.S. 181 last month. America the land of the stupid, fearful and barbaric.

          1. Gerald Mosier says

            Yes, and most of those were because good people could not protect themselves from bad people and people like you who don’t care about the constitution;

          2. Jimmy Quick says

            And Great Britain’s murder rate is still higher than the USA. In Russia, where all guns are banned, the favorite murder weapon of choice is the lamp cord… imagine that. So, do you now want to outlaw lamps too.

            What are you afraid of… that the truth might slip out that people with guns are a whole lot safer than people without guns.

            I think I’m not alone when I say that your last sentence is more descriptive of your abortion hungry murderers than it is about people who simply don’t want to die without a fight.

            You and your breed are sickening.

          3. tomneale says

            According to Wikipedia’s chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country
            United Kingdom’s murder rate is 1/4 of our rate.

          4. Jimmy Quick says

            And Wiki anything is an authority you should trust. I know liberal doesn’t automatically mean you don’t have a brain, but their are some obvious exceptions, wouldn’t you agree?

          5. tomneale says

            Right. Don’t believe anything you read because the Commies might be behind it.

          6. Jimmy Quick says

            Believe in Mighty Mouse and Obama. They will save you!

          7. tomneale says

            Business Insider has a similar comparison in murder rates. Please let me have your source. Thanks. Mighty Mouse was Ross Perot – we should have voted him in.

          8. Jimmy Quick says

            I only found about three comparisons that even attempted to be accurate. The others stated right up front that the British downplay their murder rates in order so that they will not be found to be the violent natured people that history has proven them to be.

            So, yes, there are mixed messages in the media; “I’m shocked” you say. Well, it’s only been that way since people figured out how to tell a lie with a straight face, didn’t you know?

            Anyway, in the USA, our founding fellows thought it prudent to keep their friends close by and most of us agree, thank God and pass the freedom.

          9. tomneale says

            The Skeptical Libertarian had a report on comparative violent crime rates (not murders) in Britain and the US. We come out pretty well on it:
            http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/
            Britain’s stats were hard to figure, because they include bombings and suffocations of illegal immigrants as the same as one-on-one murders.

          10. Ron says

            Not sure what it is , exactly, that you are smoking, but maybe you should do some research before you open your mouth and insert your foot! Try this link:
            http://www.murderuk.com/misc_crime_stats.html It is a HELL of a lot more than 53 since 1960! It has actually gone up since then. Just saying!

          11. SNuss says

            That was the same kind of idiocy that was spouted by the anti-gun crowd, prior to concealed-carry being enacted. Guess what? IT NEVER HAPPENED! In fact, concealed-carry permit holder are more law-abiding than the average citizen. The only places that have consistent “Wild-West shootouts” are the Democrat controlled cities, with their strict anti-gun laws.

          12. tomneale says

            I’ve yet to read of a CC holder causing a problem in my state.

        5. tomneale says

          OMG! I love the concept:”PTOW,PTOW PTOW! That’ll teach you to ogle my woman, man!”

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            No, no, you got that wrong. It more like “That teach you to ogle my cow.” Our women know how to take care of themselves.

          2. tomneale says

            ;>) Right. I forgot about concealed carries.

        6. Thomas Young says

          Once considered among the most backward of states, West Virginia has shown itself to be a shining example of freedom and liberty for the rest of the nation to emulate.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            I don’t know about all that, but we do know a thing or two about a thing or two.

        7. TAM44 says

          God bless West Virginia……

        8. william barr says

          NY band AR/AKs and it hard to get a permit to have one in your house. the gov’t is greasy little shits

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            Bloomberg money. Boycott “Bloomberg” anything and put that loser on the street where he belongs, just like we did in WV.

            Oh yes, that punk owns our governor, but or legislation over rode his veto.

            I think our governor had better start looking for another house to hide in because he is about to get foreclosed on by “we the people.”

      3. tomneale says

        The government has enough food stored to feed the military and starve the rest of us.

        1. MAHB001 says

          But that Government can not control the food without controlling the people.

    2. Combatvet52 says

      It’s not only the Government who would have guns……..the criminal element will have them as well, and you know who the majority of the low are……….keep your doors locked and your weapons loaded.

      1. George says

        And ; full of ammo ‘.

        1. Combatvet52 says

          Ditto

    3. Steve Crawford says

      Gosh I’ve never thought I would ever see so many idiots about Gun Control. As an ex cop and gun owner that carry my weapon, 362 days out of the year, I am for GUN CONTROL for UNAUTHORIZED persons, which included felons, under 21 yo, the mentally ill and those convicted of domestic charges and non-citizens. I also Support the second amendment for authorized American citizens ONLY to own firearms. I support that all violation of the use of firearms receive a stiff sentences. I support any killing of a law enforcement officer that the penalty should be death, and a minimum of 30 years in prison for all other killings . I also support that ALL authorized US citizens should have the right to buy and own assault type firearms BUT they should be licenced by the ATF such as fully automatic firearms. Only authorized citizens should be allowed to buy ammo or gunpowder. I would like that ALL authorized gun owners to be able to have a Conceal Handgun License that is good in every US State. But that will NOT ever happen with all the negative and stupid fools who DO NOT want any restrictions to own a firearm.

      1. SNuss says

        “Assault-type firearms” are semi-automatic (auto-loading) firearms, just like those which have been produced for over a century, for the civilian market. The only differences are cosmetic, not functional.
        Why should they need to be licensed like machine guns?

    4. tomneale says

      Dump the eyelashes and you’d be even prettier.

  3. jackhy says

    I am worried about the current state of Republican campaigning, but I am more worried about a Hillery Presidency. She would pursue the failed O’Bama policies and add to the destruction of our Democracy with her own poison pen.

    1. tomneale says

      ”..failed Obama policies…”? So the country is in the same state it was in 2008? Go back to bed, Rip Van Winkle.

      1. MAHB001 says

        It should be noted that every policy 0-bama put in place came with a promise to make things better… I would call that failed.

        1. hankthetank says

          Better for them !! EVERY policy was put in place on purpose to break this country !! it started a long time ago , Nixon, was the first president to visit China, & it’s been going down hill every sense !!! the Clintons, Bushes,& obama has finished us off !!!

        2. George says

          I call that ‘ ; LYING ‘ .

          1. MAHB001 says

            That it is….

      2. Jimmy Quick says

        I found 2 people in the past 7 years that like Obama. One can’t keep a job, a girlfriend or a car, but he gets his welfare and foodstamps on time everytime as well as Obama phone and government paid healthcare.

        The other is a government employee, and well, that is pretty much the same as the first except his job is welfare.

        1. tomneale says

          Yet the sonofagun still got elected twice. DAMN! How did that ever happen? Maybe you should try a new bar, James.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            Maybe I choose to hang with a better crowd.

          2. billdeserthills says

            Maybe You should blame the Electoral Voters, they actually pick the president

      3. Giorgio Benhana says

        Obama never explained his hope and change in 2008. He passed the socialist healthcare act, Obamacare. As Lenin said if one wants to control the people socialize medical care. It has huge deductibles, is expensive and the IPAB will dictate who gets care or not.

        He has pursued regulatory agencies to bypass Congress including his green energy policy that destroys jobs and raises utility energy costs.

        He ran Fast and Furious, he created the middle east morass now existing and he has led the worst recovery since WW2; we are at the lowest labor participation rate for those who find the facts.

        some examples for you to consider.

        It is you tom neale that

        1. Giorgio Benhana says

          the financial crisis was brought by the democrats promoting subprime mortgages. Read the book Reckless Endangerment. Fanny and Freddie ended up with $5 trillion in subprime mortgages. Bill Clinton’s 1994 speec, A Home for Every American was central to the start of the risk.

          Republicans twice tried to stop but democrats voted the proposals down. As Alan Greenspan said in 2005, if we continue the entire financial system is at risk. Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer defended subprime mortgages consistently.

          1. George says

            When Barwney ‘ was asked by pres. G.W. Bush , if Fannie @ Freddie were stable ‘; Banrwey lied every time .

          2. beachbum68 says

            Well said and right to the point.

          3. SNuss says

            So did then-Sen. Obama, who got huge campaign contributions from Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.

        2. SNuss says

          Not to mention that we have the highest corporate income tax in the world, because Obama thinks that lowering those tax rates “wouldn’t be fair”.

        3. tomneale says

          Oh, Benihana-san, don’t let someone interrupt you, keep going… ;>)

        4. tomneale says

          Yeah, why didn’t that SFB Bush invade that Commie nation just north of us and grab THEIR oil?

      4. Giorgio Benhana says

        you have no understanding what has transpired with Obama as POTUS. read below some things you need to face or wake up to.

        1. tomneale says

          Benihana-san, they seem to be mostly about Ted Cruz.

      5. alegalcitizen says

        Now I SEE why you were a former owner of lots of lots of things. You do realize that the Democrats took over the Senate and House in 2006, RIGHT? Or were you sleeping? The reason we were in such a dire state is the ridiculous giving of mortgages to people who had NO right to have one. Before the stupid idea of everyone “deserves” a house you had to prove you had a steady job, and pay 20% down. Now WHO do you think took it there?
        WHO do you think was warning of the meltdown? Unless you had earplugs in it was G. W. Bush. Now I’m not saying he was the greatest President ever, but he DID Love this country and the Military, unlike the present oval office resident.

      6. John Williams says

        The travesty is the fact that so many actually believe the pablum they are being fed.

        1. tomneale says

          Snark…

          1. John Williams says

            So, useful idiot, how does that pablum taste?

          2. tomneale says

            goo, goo, goo, gaw, gaw, yummy

          3. John Williams says

            It seems to have doubled your IQ already.

          4. tomneale says

            ;>) Good one!!!

      7. willr3 says

        no much worse off for a thousand Obama lies and deceptions as he tries to turn us into a third world muslim country.

      8. Ron says

        Actually, it is WORSE!

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Which policies might those be?
      It is always Obama this. Obama that — never any facts.

      1. Krampus says

        Ahh no lady 20¹5 defending her muzrat hero. How about obuttholecare the last few still hanging onto it are about bankrupt and all the others have dropped it showing major kiss’s only 25% of the 100% and the last 25% involved are dropping his ass to. How about the economy no lady? Answer why this countries economy is in the toilet answer the over doubled deficit. How about the 7 million vacations how about all the diseases those muzrats have that he wants to allow in our country not his that’s for damn sure. How about fast&furious in Mexico how about funding Isis with taxpayers money how about Iran nuclear arms deal and the hundred and fifty billion of our tax money he gave them how about the muzrat brotherhood in our security and intelligence offices the heads of those offices not to mention those are positions to be elected to that the piece of SHIT TREASONOUS BASTARD’S place there himself how about the whole friggen world laughing at our COUNTRY sure as hell ain’t his. How many lies can you come up with to cover for that worthless CO__SUCKER? Your pathetic and should be deported and dropped right in the middle of Isis while your hero and all muzrat sisterhoods,his administration,cabinet biden,Kerry,mcain,Clinton’s and any other worthless politition that likes that fag are being hung or shot for the treasonous CRIMES AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CITIZENS which I highly doubt you are 1…NOW QUIT TROLLING AND ABUSING YOUR WIFE AND CHILDEREN YOU SICK DELUSIONAL BITCH

        1. AKLady says

          Not one thing in your post is factual.
          Not one.

          Oh, and child, there is no such things as Obanacare.

          And yes, you are a child — profanity is as childish as it comes, as are fictional names as in your ” obuttholecare”.

          1. Krampus says

            Everything I said is true so who is the liar? You are you little muzrat loving hoe. And if you had 1 bit of intelligence in your head you would know the the difference between spelling errors and cutting remarks. How about more facts for you pea brain? Ovomit quaddrupled the food prices started the racial tension all over again is a muzrat himself is trying to dismantle our military releases murdering muzrats so they can continue the beheadings of innocent AMERICAN CITIZENS AND Christians. The list goes on. So call me a liar again because it doesn’t bother me as I KNOW I AM CORRECT IN EVERY STATEMENT I HAVE MADE. You on the other hand are a complete imbecile and lack the proof to defend that worthless piece of shit ovomit so just SDASTFU LOSER.

          2. AKLady says

            Your ignorant, childish religious insults are an embarassment to America.

            Food prices quadrupled — false.

            Racial tension — false. You are obviously too young to remember the days before, and including, the 1960s. You are about as ignorant as they come on the topic of race in America.

            Obama Muslim — false. Smce Freedom of religion is the law, Obama’s religion has absolutely no relevance — well except to a bigot. Islam is the world’s second largest of the world’s religions.

            Dismatle military — false. However, we spend more on ,Military than all the other modern, industrial countries combined. We also let people die who cannot afford to buy medical care.

            Release of Gitmo prisoners — the released individuals were never charged with any crime. Either they were criminals or POWS. Our constitution requires criminals to be provided a trial. The Geeva Convention requirws POWS to be repatriated at the end of a war. The War in Iraq has bwwn over for quite some time.

          3. Krampus says

            You just keep on lieing and for your information those so called facts of yours are all lies and you no it. Ask anybody in this country that doesn’t suck his ass and you will find just how ignorant you are. I bet next your going to say kilary is innocent of all charges and her husband isn’t facing charges for voter interference nor has he been to pedophile island 12 times when there are pictures of him there and that ovomit and kilary had nothing to do with Benghazi that they didn’t give stand down orders and the movie about it is all lies to even though it was made from pure factual events as the man that made it was a witness to it.ovomit is a TRAITOR and should swing from the GALLOS and I think you should to. Go brush your teeth your breath smells like camel shit. Stupid can’t be fixed and I refuse to talk to stupid people like you any further you friggen puke

          4. AKLady says

            Kindergarten name calling and lies.
            I am so not impressed.
            Save your insults for someone who rwapects your opinions and/or may beliece your lies.

          5. alegalcitizen says

            Wow, better be checking your spelling, it’ awful.

          6. Krampus says

            Wow is that all you can say? Even all that shows just how ignorant you really are. What’s wrong all that truth thrown at you hurts so much that you just start blabbering nonsense and call me a child. Well good luck with those muzrats coming to live with your family I am sure you will welcome them with open arms since you have your head so far up ovomits ass you will never hear that popping sound

          7. AKLady says

            You seem to think it is acceptable to insult billions of people.
            Islam is the world’s second largest religion.
            I suspect you also claim to be a Christian.

            I have news for you — the Middle East is a very small drop in the world’s Muslim population.. Oh, and my foolish one, the country the WTC attackers came from is Saudi Arabia. They are still America’s allies. There are multipls terrorist training camps in their country that they do nothing about.

            The Bush adminstration certainly did a very good job of brainwashing people.
            You are a prime example.
            .
            What saddens me most is that some of my fellow Americans are that ignorant and easy to teach hate to. My grandmother told me about how Asian-Americans were treated during WW II. I’m glad I was not alive to see that hate.

            I grew up in the South. I saw that hate. Turned my stomach.

          8. Krampus says

            When it comes to those murdering rapeing pedophile’s yes I will insult that garbage 24/7 365. I have no problems having I’ll feelings toward them. You on the other hand seem to think that is OK. If anything “makes you sick to your stomach” that most definitely should. Those muzrats have NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY and obviously you don’t either. As for the “saudia arabia, WTC” THAT IS OLD NEWS THAT EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN KNOWS. Here’s a little insight on that subject for you. The GOVERMENT of this country was also involved in that whole murdering scheme so they could invade Iran. Take your blinders off and watch the real videos and you will see the building exploding way below where that plane hit it. Those buildings were designed to not come down unless they had charges set in key spots of them and that’s exactly what happened but now you will foolishly say that’s a lie also. Now as for “ww2″ they cowardly attacked we Americans ships in Pearl HARBOR. So everything that happened to them they asked for. How many innocent AMERICAN CITIZENS did they kill that day? If you argued to defend the TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZENS like YOU DO FOR murdering rapeing pedophile’s with a false religion we wouldnt have this discussion but oh no you love all those sick bastard’s so much you should be exiled right along with all of those muzrats. Quit puffing that camel pole and come back to reality. As for me being ” a christian ” not hardley. I don’t worship a God that allows innocent CHILDEREN to die from Cancer and other painful diseases. They have done nothing to deserve anything but growing up a happy carefree child so don’t preach your bullshit to me. Your a ignorant waste of human flesh that needs a lobotomy and NOW. Now run along and be stupid somewhere else as you bore me with your old news and dribble.

          9. tomneale says

            Hey, what IS a muzrat,anyway? Are they like muskrats? About Dec. 7th ’41. Are you trying to tell us that those planes were actually flown by American citizens? I’m confused. Never did see any evidence of that or of any anti-American goings-on here. Have you ever heard of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team? Probably not. Too bad.

          10. AKLady says

            Child marriage is not limited to Islam.

            Child marriage occurs all over the world.

            CHILD MARRIAGE TAKES PLACE RIGHT HERE IN THE USA.

            NEW YORK is the state with the highest number of child marriages.

            .

            Here in the U.S. of A. a court order is all that is required for a child marriage to take place.

            Child marriage is frequently used as a way of keeping peace between warring groups. It is also used to protect female children in case the family should become destitute and/or the parents die.

            While countries with the highest prevalence of child marriage are concentrated in Western and Sub-Saharan Africa, due to population size, the largest number of child brides reside in South Asia.

          11. hankthetank says

            YOUR, religion,Islam IS the # 1 worse & Catholic is # 2 !! in the world !!!

          12. AKLady says

            I have bad news for you.
            I am an agnostic
            The majority of America’s Founders were agnostic.

          13. George says

            Quit proving your ignorance and stupidity ‘.

          14. tomneale says

            Is he trying to spell ”oven-mitts” or what? I’m still trying to find ”muzrats” in the encyclopedia…maybe I should call the local college?

          15. Krampus says

            Your so ignorant you can’t even recognize sarcasm? “Oven-mitts”. Really?. Is that all the better you can do?. What a imbecile you are, and in true form. Why don’t you go back to the short bus and go home to mommy. I know she is just so proud of how you want to be a big boy. Move out of mommy and daddy’s basement start wearing men’s pants instead of panties and skirts. When you grow up stick AK up your ass and pull her trigger. Do everybody a favor. Nobody liked you since 1st grade and they still don’t. You a chid and a bore so just run along Tommy before the muzrats catch you and show you what those sick fucks do and should be taken out of SOCIETY on sight, no question no judge no jury just them and the executioner’s.!!!!!.

          16. tomneale says

            Oh, o.k., I’ll think about that. I think they liked me in 3rd grade, as least for a little while. In 4th grade I got kicked out of class for vomiting ”blood” on the teacher’s desk. She sent me to the nurse’s office before she realized it was only ketchup.

          17. tomneale says

            OH! O-vomit! Now I get it. Very clever. By the way, when do you go back on your meds? Don’t do it, though. It’s more fun reading your anti-social rants.

          18. Krampus says

            You won’t me but will sit in mommy and daddy’s basement on your little computer and run your mouth. You are a coward and a pussy . so run along now gitly boy

          19. tomneale says

            Dear Mr. Krampussy…oh, damn, now you’ve got me calling names too,
            especially after you put out your shortest rant ever.Just forget the whole thing.

          20. tomneale says

            ””gitly” boy????

          21. Krampus says

            Girly boy you dip shit. Before you point out others typeos you better proof read your own comments. What a COWARD YOU ARE. Go suck mommy’s teets some more and call a proctoligist while your at it so they can try and surgically remove your head out of her ass

          22. tomneale says

            Does anybody out there know what a ”gitly” boy is?

          23. tomneale says

            Don’t the ranters get you rattled;[ krwapects] keep your fingers on the center row of keys, babe. ;>)

          24. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            I admit to being a bad typist, it worsens every year. 😉

          25. tomneale says

            Just kidding. Don’t ever give up ”The Power of the Fingertips”!

          26. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            I was not offended.

          27. George says

            Yup ; just like the person ‘.

          28. tomneale says

            Krampus, I believe that if you approach AKLady a little differently you might be pleasantly surprised. She might be a fan of AK-47’s, or maybe a resident of Alaska, which is a marvelous place to visit. I was in Wasilla over 12 years ago on movie work and got a TERRIFIC blowjob from the lady mayor of the town, who went on to become quite famous.

          29. Krampus says

            It wasn’t a ” movie work ” unless you consider porn and Cheetos ” movie work” and the supposed “blowjob ” you got was a dead fish and its only famous to you as that’s all you can get to hold still

          30. AKLady says

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?

          31. AKLady says

            Dianne Keller was Mayor in 2004, not Sarah Palin.
            Keller is a Republican.
            For that matter, so was Palin.
            The timing of your lie is a bit off.

          32. tomneale says

            BUSTED!

          33. tomneale says

            Uh,oh, I’M BUSTED!!!

          34. George says

            No ; you ‘re , ” stu – pid ” .

          35. tomneale says

            And a bit of flatulence to you, sir.

          36. George says

            IDYIT “

          37. tomneale says

            (sp)

          38. AKLady says

            Allah is the Arabic word for the God of Abraham.
            The one found in the Old Testament.
            The same God worshipped by both Christians and Jews.
            YOUR BIGOTRY AND INGNORANCE ARE A DISGRACE TO AMERICA.

          39. tomneale says

            Oh,now you’re just going to confuse the man, implying that there might be just one God out there. And Allah mode is the way the real God likes his pie.

          40. AKLady says

            Instead of voicing ignorant bigotry, maybe you should actually educate yourself?

            The Arabic word Allah is part of the language used by all Arabic speakers of all religions — Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Babusm, Bahá’í, Gnostics, Islam, Ibadi, Sufism … and many more you have probably never heard of.
            Do a little research and educate yourself. Try a Internet search using “religions of the world”.

          41. George says

            Your stupid ‘, is showing ‘.

          42. AKLady says

            You have the entire Internet available to educate yourself.

            However, you are too bigoted to bother looking at an Arabic-English dictionary.
            You simply prefer to be ignorant and hate.
            You continue to insult Arabic speakers of every religion, not just Islam.

            Self-imposed ignorance is so sad.
            Why do you want to embarrass yourself before the world?

          43. George says

            NO ” ; idyit ‘ ; they are not the same ‘ ;allah is no God ‘.

          44. AKLady says

            Find an Arabic – English dictionary on line.
            Look it up.
            Stop embarrassing America with your ignorance and bigotry,

            Self-imposed ignorance is about aa sad as it comes.
            Especially with the power of the Internet at your fingers.
            Hate and bigotry are not Christian acts.

          45. AKLady says

            Allah is a word, not a God.
            Allah is the Arabic word for the God of Abraham.
            Same God you worship.

          46. AKLady says

            Allah is the Arabic word for God.

            God has many names in many languages — here is a sample:

            Language Name of God

            AEolian…………………Ilos
            Arabic………………..Allah
            Armorian……………..Teuti
            Assyrian……………… Eleah
            Celtic………………….Diu
            Chaldaic…………. Eilah
            Cretan……………….Thios
            Chinese………………Prussa
            Coromandel…………..Brama
            Danish…………………Gut
            Dutch…………………Godt
            Egyptian (old)………….Teut
            Egyptian (modern)………Teun
            English………………..God
            Finch……………….Jumala
            Flemish……………….Goed
            French…………………Dieu
            German………………..Gott
            German (old)……………Diet
            Greek……………….Theos
            Gallic…………………..Diu
            Hebrew………..Elohim, Eloha
            Hindoostanee…………..Rain
            Japanese…………….Goezur
            Irish……………………Dia
            Italian………………….Dio
            Madagascar….. …….Zannar
            Malay…………………Alla
            Norwegian……………..Gud
            Latin…………………Deus
            Low Latin……………..Diex
            Low Breton…………….Done

            Read more: http://chestofbooks.com/reference/Bepler-Handy-Manual-Of-Knowledge/The-Name-Of-God-In-Different-Languages.html#ixzz42L8L64KC

          47. tomneale says

            So if a Dane calls you ”gutless” he is merely calling you an atheist?

          48. tomneale says

            Again, (sp). Jorge,I bet your teachers wore themselves out using this abbreviation.

          49. Krampus says

            Keep telling yourself that your so almighty wise when in fact your ignorance show every time you open your flapping hole. A disgrace? I think not. Now you oh ya just as big as a losing discrace as your muzrat hero ovomit. You seem to love those murdering rapeing pedophile’s don’t you. Hmm now tell us how they haven’t been raping little boys on USA MILITARY BASWS. TELL US HOW THE SFC OF RHE ARMY DIDN’T GET DISCHAEGED AFTER 11 FRIGGEN YWARS OF HONORABLE SERVICE FOR STOPPING A PIECE OF SHIT AFGHANISTAN “SUPPOSED ALLI” FROM RAPEING A LITTLE BOY AND RHEN LAUGHS ABOUT IT SAYING” ITS JUST A LITTLE BUY” LIKE HE WAS JUST GARBAGE. You are not a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZEN. Your a PEDOPHILE loving piece of shit that needs to get your ass kicked. Do we PROUD AMERICAN CITIZENS a favor and just blow your sick little brain out. You say iam ” disgrace to the AMERICAN PEOPLE “? Well then I guess that’s what you think of oh how about 3/4 of this country. Nobody but you camel shit smoking ovomit lovers wants them here. I along with millions of other American Citizens can’t wait till ovomit, kilary and all the rest of those corrupt pieces of shit get put on DEATH ROW in GITMO for being TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY. You run along and pray to that murdering rapeing pedophile now. You better pray that somebody like me doesn’t ever catch you and your gay lover ever touching a child in the sick ways you pray to your allaha because you people will DIE for what you do to CHILDEREN. That’s the cure for that shit plain and simple. No jail no judge no jury. Just DEATH. Go run along now you sick fuck. Your lieing blabbering is old and that rag on your head needs removed from all that camel shit smeard on it from sucking on camel ass. And leave the goats alone they can’t stand the stinch coming from between your legs. ” disgrace” hahaha looking in the while saying that aren’t you. Hahaha your a loser and can’t do anything about it and hour getting all upset hahaha. Go play in traffic you sick fuck PEDOPHILE!!!!!!!

          50. AKLady says

            Thank you for proving my points.

          51. tomneale says

            Grampuss, please watch your spelling and grammar. The invective is just fine as long as you don’t misspell any of your four-letter words.

          52. AKLady says

            Kindergarten name calling is so not impressive.

            Your lies embarass America.

            Your childish lies are anything but impressive.

            Your infantile foul language is not impressive.

            .

          53. tomneale says

            Well, now I’m really lost. What do the Gallo people have to do with executions anyway? Killing oneself on cheap wine is voluntary. And how would you know what camel dung smelled like…unless you are…a…secret Muslim!! Aha, you have been put on line to torture the brains of the real Americans. Just because Hillary shot Vince Foster with a crossbow and then dragged his body 100 yards into the woods, then used his own gun to hold up 3 or 4 convenience stores and gas stations is no reason to criticize her. Don’t you have any respect for women???

          54. alegalcitizen says

            OK, we’ll send them to Alaska for you and your family to deal with, please let us know the town you want them released to.

          55. AKLady says

            If they have committed a crime, charge them, try them, sentence them and release them when they have served their time.
            .
            If they are Prisoners of War, comply with the Geneva Convention.
            .
            Obama at least stopped the war crimes.

            Bush has been charged with war crimes, tried, and found guilty by two nations so far.

          56. tomneale says

            What about Cheney, can we find some way to send him to Germany? And why did society wast a heart transplant on him?

          57. AKLady says

            Government of corporations, by corporations, for corporations?

            Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich?

          58. hankthetank says

            HEY, stupid, the wars are still going on, THANKS to obama !!!

          59. AKLady says

            Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Irag was signed by BUSH in 2008.

            It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011

            The United States completed its final withdrawal of troops from Iraq on December 16, 2011.

          60. tomneale says

            STOP trying to confuse these people with facts!

          61. AKLady says

            Mass racial violence in the United States, also called race riots, can include such disparate events as:

            1) Conflict between Americans and recent European immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries.
            2) Attacks on Native Americans and Americans over the land.

            3) Violence involving Latin American immigrants in the 20th century.
            racially based communal conflict involving African Americans occurring following the American civil war.

            4) Frequent fighting among various ethnic groups in major cities, specifically in the northeast and midwest United States throughout the late 19th century and early 20th century. This example was made famous in the stage musical West Side Story and its film adaptation.

            Mass violence and looting in African-American communities, such as the 1967 nationwide riots in most major US cities that led to over 100 deaths, and the 1968 riots following the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr which were as widespread and deadly.

          62. tomneale says

            Ohhh, curb your anger, sir, curb your anger. Just because a black person got elected is no reason to flaunt your ignorance. His term is almost over so better prepare all your misogynist rantings for our next President.

          63. Krampus says

            The color of that muzrats skin has nothing to do with TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZENS wanting him to swing from the GALLOS. He has done nothing to help this country in 7 years but everything possible to try and destroy it. If you can’t see that then you should hurry in and have a lobotomy. All you kilary and ovomit lovers have got to be the stupidest people on the planet.go rude that goat some more and take your ignorance with you

          64. tomneale says

            Could someone please translate? I feel the rage but I get lost in the reference to wine companies, misspellings and mystery rats and goats.

          65. AKLady says

            Excellent.
            Humor is sometimesa the best weapon.

          66. ABO says

            And you two are quite a pair of court jesters.

          67. AKLady says

            Kindergarten name calling.
            So not impressive.
            How old did you say uou were .. 10?

          68. AKLady says

            RIGHT ON.

          69. George says

            His term is almost over ‘; ? No ; dictators do not step down ‘ ; they must be removed ‘.

          70. tomneale says

            Here is what you don’t understand about the American system, Jorge.
            Americans can only elect a President twice; he may not run for a third consecutive term. He has to step down.

          71. hankthetank says

            SHE, is black & on welfare, that is her problem !!!

          72. AKLady says

            That is a racist remark.
            If you had states she was ignorance and bigotted, I would have agreed with you.

          73. tomneale says

            Who the heck is the SHE in this thread?

          74. tomneale says

            I believe that Grampus is misspelling ”Obananacare”, a process recently developed by the Dole company in Ecuador.

        2. AKLady says

          Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

          Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          Why do you embarrass America this way?

        3. tomneale says

          Wikipedia says: ”In Austro-Bavarian Alpine folklore, Krampus is a horned,
          anthropomorphic figure described as “half-goat, half-demon” who, during
          the Christmas season, punishes children who have misbehaved.”

          Do you abuse children??? Or been abused as a child? If so, GET HELP ASAP.

          1. Krampus says

            I think you and I should meet somewhere and have a little discussion about you even insinuating that I do anything to CHILDEREN. I would never touch a child you sick sonofabitch. And I’d your a woman the same goes for your husband. You throw accusations around on here so do it to my face. I am a firm believer anybody that does shit like that to a child should be executed and for you and only you that has said stupid shit like that about a name must be a sick individual yourself. Nobody was talking to your ignorant ass in the 1st place so why are you even talking to me.. Why don’t you do a little research into your hero ovomits beliefs in Allah who is a RAPEING MURDERING PEDOPHILE and maybe you pray to that sick piece of shit to. Don’t look for something to say about anybody till you clean out your dirty closet

          2. tomneale says

            The only way I meet people like you is by accident in a bad neighborhood.

          3. hankthetank says

            Tomneale, you are the one that needs help !!!

          4. tomneale says

            I never said I didn’t – mostly in tolerating bozo rantings from people like Krampus. Good to hear from you , Hank. See you in the same old place soon.

          5. George says

            Do you still look forward to Santa ‘ coming every Dec. ?

        4. Mark Lahti says

          There is a lot you just said that I could agree with. One problem is that the one hundred and fifty or so billion dollars was not taxpayers money. That was Iran’s money that was held in banks that was frozen by the US and then released back to them with this bogus deal that Kerry and Obama made. Other than that, I am just as pissed off as you are about this POS in our WH. Also one other tidbit. It will never benefit you to feed this particular liberal troll. You will never get anywhere with it. It is fully entrenched in the believe that it knows more than anybody else about everything else. Just ask it, it will tell you so. Unless it just goes to it’s usual posture of name calling. That is when you know you’ve won the argument with it.

          1. Krampus says

            Your right and I some how let the little troll bait me but you have to admit if just to yourself even though I sadly stopped down and fed the troll it was overwhelmed with all the facts it was bombarded with at 1 time. I will remember these wise observations from here on and I thank you for your constructive input.

      2. alegalcitizen says

        Apparently you can’t read because many examples were given above. But with your abysmal comments to votes record, you don’t read much of anything, you dart and dodge.

    3. marlene says

      Be worried about cruz. READ: “Anita Hoge – Ted Cruz, Common Core, Homeschooling and His Proposed S-306” newswithviews; and
      READ: “Anita Hoge – Cruz’s Unethical Profiling of Americans” newswithviews;
      READ: “Anita Hoge – Ted Cruz’s Federal Education ‘CHOICE’ Kills The American Dream” newswithviews
      READ: “Kelleigh Nelson – Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz The Master of Lies” newswithviews; and
      READ: “Deliberately Dumbing Us Down to Affect Social Change” David Risselada, dcclothesline
      READ: “How All The Candidates Fit In The Overall GOP Road Map-‘The Big Picture'” The Last Refuge; and
      READ: “Kelleigh Nelson – Ted Cruz, Henry Kissinger and The Globalist” newswithviews
      READ: “Cruz accused of fraud in Iowa win” The Horn News
      READ: “Ted Cruz’s Iowa Mailers Are More Fraudulent Than Everyone Thinks” The New Yorker
      READ: “Kelleigh Nelson – Did Ted Cruz Succeed Fooling Iowa Voters With His Shaming Letters?” newswithviews
      READ: “How ‘Trumpism’ trumps pseudo-conservatism, and is not Obamunism”
      READ: “Claims that Senator Cruz is not ‘Natural Born’ Need to be Taken Seriously” Tenth Amendment Center
      READ: “Constitutional Expert, Dr. Edwin Vieira, Says Ted Cruz is Not Eligible for US Presidency” NorthWest Liberty News
      READ: “Ted Cruz is NOT a Legal U.S. Citizen at all” Capitol Hill Outsider (CHO)
      READ: “JB Williams – Ted Cruz is NOT a Legal U.S. Citizen at All”
      READ: “Raphael and Ted Cruz – Biggest Cuban Con Artists since Rosie Ruiz” Cuba 54
      In his own words, cruz said “Neither I nor Obama are eligible for the Oval Office.”

      1. hankthetank says

        NO, way can a person born in Canada, EVER be a natural born American !!!

        1. tomneale says

          Agreed.

        2. SNuss says

          They can be, if they are born of an American citizen mother.

          1. marlene says

            Wrong. It’s pathetic how little you and others like you know about our Constitution, yet have the presumption to declare what’s in it.

          2. SNuss says

            Citizenship by Being Born to U.S. Citizens

            In a number of situations, if you were born to parents, at least one of
            whom was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, you automatically
            gained U.S. citizenship through the process of acquisition. It does not
            matter whether you were born on American soil or foreign. As well, if
            you have children, those children will also acquire U.S. citizenship
            through you at their birth. – See more at: http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/u-s-citizenship-through-parents-or-by-birth.html#sthash.dyIrsbsV.dpuf

          3. marlene says

            Absolutely wrong. Keep reading. And try some articles by real constitutional scholars and experts. The knowledge will do you good. I pity you for displaying such a profound ignorance of our Constitution, our Federalist papers, and our Founders’ letters in which they explained the intent of the laws contained in our Constitution. Too bad people like you get to vote!

          4. SNuss says
          5. marlene says

            Really??? You call that lofty? “NEW HARVARD PROF SAYS TED CRUZ NOT ELIGIBLE.” In fact, in his own words, cruz said “Neither Obama nor I are eligible for the Oval Office.” If conservatives elect a man who isn’t eligible, after challenging obama’s eligibility, we will have effectively nullified our Constitution, which is the goal of the left AND the globalists on the right. My standards go way beyond yours because our country is at stake. Try some education and the ability to understand what you read and grow up to the wisdom of knowing the difference between sources that are trustworthy on both sides of an issue and those that come from one side – the side you want to believe. For objective and evidence-ridden sources, try Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr., Publius Huldah. He is facing birther lawsuits in Alabama, Utah, Texas, New York, Illinois, Vermont, so far. I find no credibility in a comment made by someone who refuses to believe anything but what they want to believe. And it’s pathetic how so many of you fail to research the candidates. I call that un-American. In fact, cruz’s lies, deceit and deceptions go even further than his ineligibility – READ: “The Lies of Romney, Megyn Kelly and Ted Cruz” Kelleigh Nelson
            READ: “Cruz’s Unethical Profiling of Americans” and “Ted Cruz, Common Core, Homeschooling and His Proposed S-306 Bill” Anita Hoge; and
            READ: “Raphael and Ted Cruz-Biggest Con Artists since Rosie Ruiz” Cuba 54;
            READ: “Ted Cruz, Henry Kissinger and The Globalists” Kelleigh Nelson
            READ: his voting record for the 113th and 114th Congressional Voting Record to see where he voted for obama’s liberal pick for the Secretary of the DHS, who is under investigation for immigration fraud; where he failed to show up to vote against Loretta Lynch as he promised he would.
            READ: “Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz The Master of Lies” Kelleigh Nelson.
            READ: “Why Ted Cruz’s Voter ‘Shaming’ Mailer May Have Violated the Law” LawNewz.
            I’ve got more documented evidence against this phony globalist than you have or could even find, to substantiate any reason whatsoever to support him. You know so little about him and, worse, don’t even want to know the truth. IfNo one in their right mind would vote for a member of congress. Or re-elect any one of them. Pitiful.

          6. Krampus says

            Bravo. Also he should look up Senate roll call on the voting for better health care and pay for our veterans and inlisted where both Cruz and rubio voted against it. Now why would anybody want this type of person in our Senate let alone as our President. Hasn’t the snake in there now done enough damage already without putting this liar in office that is beholden the bush family, Goldman and Sachs in which his wife works for them. Just another wanna be career politician that could care less what we the people want and not what these politicians say is best for our lives and finishing us off with this nwo bs and amnesty for ILLEGALS.

          7. marlene says

            You’re right. I checked his voting record for the 113th and 114th Congress and there’s no way he could even be a “maybe” conservative. I’m glad to see enlightened voters on this page. We are our only hope for America to remain free – to elect candidates that love America and to not re-elect anyone who does not. Thanks for your comment.

          8. Krampus says

            Thank you. I am a very PROUD PATRIOTIC AMERICAN CITIZEN. And am willing to to my part in keeping our grand children’s lives out of these corrupt government hands unlike some of these ilinformed subhumans on here. We have lost to many of our family members fighting to keep us safe and free for things like what is office to destroy it.

          9. marlene says

            Amen to that. I, too, worry for my grandchildren and all children of the next generation. . They will not know the freedoms, liberties and rights that they are entitled to if we put another globalist into the White House, congress or the Supreme Court. Check out, on YouTube: “Michael Savage DESTROYS and Exposes Ted Cruz -3-10-16” and the article “Barbarians at the Gate” Paul McGuiree

          10. Mark Lahti says

            Harvard Law Review. A college school newspaper that at one time had Obama as it’s editor, chair, or whatever capacity he had at that time.

          11. Mark Lahti says

            I agree whole heartedly.

          12. Mark Lahti says

            Although you are correct about citizenship in general you have not applied the constitutional requirement that further restricted the definition to that which was written into the constitution. You didn’t take the definition far enough. That was why the founders put it into the constitution in the first place.

            And then you dare to call others pathetic when you can’t even follow the simple directions written into the document that defines the requirements for the office of president which is what this whole conversation is about.

          13. SNuss says

            In case you failed to notice, I was replying in kind to an uncivil person who did not agree with my viewpoint.
            There is not, to my knowledge, any definitive ruling by SCOTUS on this issue. However, I have not heard of any children, born to citizens who were out of the country at the time, being denied U.S. citizenship.

          14. Mark Lahti says

            No, and you won’t. You failed to comprehend my reply. The definition of a us citizen for purposes of US citizenship is very clear. But it is not that definition that is at point here. It is the definition that the constitution lays forth for the purpose of eligibility for the job of president of the USA. It further defines the citizenship rules to more purposefully describe those that would be eligible for the position of president.

          15. Krampus says

            Just to be clear here. Obviously you do not know the facts yourself. Find the Constitution and read it very carefully and when your finished read it again so it sinks in. It’s the father that you inherite your natural born citizenship from not the mother and you must be born on the United State’s of America’s soil. Now don’t say that’s my interpretation of the Constitution because there is only 1 way to interpret it and it’s pretty clear in all it says. Never fear learning something new everyday because knowledge will take you places in life and not only that but when you quit learning you have ceased breathing. You can’t haul water in a bucket full of holes and you can’t make a point with flaws in your in your points. Just a little food for thought. Read and learn or don’t read and don’t learn and have no artillery in your munitions stock

          16. SNuss says

            There three ways for a person claim citizenship, what most of us think of first is called Jus soli, “the right of the soil,” which is the physical location your place of birth. The second is what is called Jus sanguinis, “the right of blood,” which you inherit from your parents. The third is a combination of Jus soli and Jus sanguinis, and it is this combination that determines if one is a natural born citizen. Since any citizenship under Jus solis is codified by the Fourteenth Amendment, we only find laws for passing citizenship via Jus sanguinis on August 4th, 1961 in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (McCarran-Walter Act). This act states that in order for Obama’s right of blood citizenship to be passed to him, that since he only had one parent who was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 14.
            Read more at: http://birthers.org/USC/14.html

          17. Krampus says

            Again read and learn the Constitution his FATHER HAS to be a citizen of this country at time of birth for that piece of shit to be legally eligible to be president. You dematards are just that. You think there is more then 1 way to interpret the Constitution and there is NOT. Why do you even breath or better yet how can you with your heads so far up your ass. Go live in syria with all your peaceful loving murdering rapeing pedophile’s. Make sure to take your whole family with you so you get first hand experience of your hero’s agenda

          18. hankthetank says

            YOU are wrong, it takes ( mother & father, citizens of the US ) & baby born on American soil to be Natural born !! other wise the baby is a naturalized citizen !!!

          19. SNuss says

            The Harvard Law Review, among others, disagree.

          20. Mark Lahti says

            Wasn’t Obama the chair or something like that of the Harvard Law Review? That says all you need to know about that school newspaper. Which is all it is really, a school newspaper.

          21. Mark Lahti says

            Wrong, wrong, wrong. How can all of you people read the same document and get it screwed up in so many different ways? I was born in Fairbanks Alaska in 1951. For those of you who slept through American History class, that was eight years before Alaska became a state. Both of my parents were born of American citizens and thus I was also born of American citizens. It does not matter where you are physically deposited upon the planet. What matters is what your citizenship is based upon your parents citizenship. Thus when the constitution says born of natural American citizens that is the requirement. When you apply those rules to Cruz, he fails the test. His father was a Canadian citizen when Ted was born. When you apply the same rules to Rubio his parents were not fully naturalized at his birth. There were later, but not when he was born. The process is really quite easy and simple to understand as long as you read it as it was written and don’t try to read more into it than is there. Obama is whole different story. His is one of being wrong on almost every level. It is so completely screwed up that it would take a page and a half of explanations to cover the whole story. Suffice it to say that as wrong as it all was it did not make any difference at all the the liberals. To bounce around the constitution the way they do is such an every day ordinary business as usual happenstance. It would take such a groundswell to even get anybody in congress to seriously consider the actions required to refute his presidency that it would never happen. I guess I’ll end with that except to say God bless you all.

        3. dondehoff says

          “Hank”, not so. American children born of “natural born” parents, and born “abroad”, are also “natural born”. That is also international law, which dictates that when citizens have children born while out of their home country, the child retains the citizenship of the parents. Some countries permit “dual” citizenship”, but most countries make that decision, not the parents or the child—and a U.S. citizen voting in a foreign country surely woulde violate at least one country’s laws.

        4. marlene says

          You’re absolutely correct. Only if both parents are American citizens, go to another country to visit, have a kid AND file the necessary forms and take the proper pledges to declare their kid an American citizen, could their kid become an American citizen – and even then, NOT a natural born citizen if the father is neither a natural born citizen of the US or is not even a US citizen at the time of the kid’s birth. In his own words, cruz said “Neither Obama nor I are eligible for the Oval Office” – and this is the biggest of the many lies he continues to tell.

      2. tomneale says

        Oh, for Pete’s sake, write a book.

        1. marlene says

          I did. And for your sake, write a comment worth reading!

          1. tomneale says

            O.k., but why just throw a reading list at us? We’re not enrolled in your class. By the way, what’s the name of your book?

          2. marlene says

            Providing a list is for those with the presence of mind to want the information necessary to form an intelligent opinion – which is why it was NOT directed to you!

          3. tomneale says

            Forget the condescension and please just tell us the name of your book.

    4. Jimmy Quick says

      This is politics my man. The most passionate voice wins and many loud voices will all cry foul as they are being sent back to the lockers.

      1. hankthetank says

        NOT this year ,my man ,!!!

      2. George says

        Too many republicans are saying they will vote for , ‘ Killary ‘ ; if the establishment knocks TRUMP out of the race .

        1. Mark Lahti says

          What bothers me more is the four million registered republicans that sat at home and didn’t vote in the last election. That was the margin that kept the current POS in office. Of course the fraudulent voting helped also.

          1. billdeserthills says

            You do know it is the Electoral Voters who actually pick the president?

          2. SNuss says

            A lot of them sat home, because their only choice was between the Democrat, and the Democrat-lite (RINO), thanks to the Republican establishment. And, that same bunch’s’ lies and failures are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump.

    5. Joseph Kiesznoski says

      You just said a mouth full. She’s the #1 Commie in America After the obamanation./

  4. jscarano7 says

    ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’DONALD TRUMP 2016

    1. Krampus says

      I fully agree with you TRUMP 2016. A real AMERICAN CITIZENS THAT BELEIVES in the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS. GO TRUMP!!!!!

  5. Joseph Kiesznoski says

    The 2nd Amendment is my Permit…………………………………………..

    1. Bachelor With Sense says

      Unfortunately only Vermont recognizes the 2nd Amendment as your “Carry Permit”. ALL Other States have turned your RIGHT into a “Priveledge” that requires a “License” from the State!

      1. MAHB001 says

        That is a very sad but true statement… CA is the worst. They now refuse to give out carry permits, even though the practice has been deemed unconstitutional.

        1. hankthetank says

          I don’t need their permission !!!

          1. MAHB001 says

            Stay safe my friend.

      2. Joseph Kiesznoski says

        I don’t recognize other states as effecting my right.

      3. George says

        Add the state of AZ.’

  6. AKLady says

    Smart guns are probably the nearest we can come to an answer.
    Well, at least with the limits of current technology.

    1. ringostarr1 says

      I would rather have a smart gun on my hip than an ignorant Liberal watching my back. But Spank, we all know which one you are.

      1. AKLady says

        I have a legal education.
        Law is not opinion.
        Law is neither conservative nor liberal.
        To understand the full extent of law, you must also read case decisions.

        1. George says

          Then ; how come you are so utterly ‘ s t u p i d ‘ ?

          1. AKLady says

            A guy with your IQ should have a low voice too!

        2. SNuss says

          The LAW may be neither “conservative nor liberal”, but lawyers and judges certainly are, as are the politicians who write and pass the laws.

  7. Davidme2 says

    Our Traitor and Dictatorial Chief Obomer Just Wants To Make It Safe For His muslim/islamist Buddies !! Our congress Seems To Be In Total Support Of Whatever FATWA Obomer Issues. This In spite Of The Fact That All Our Elected Representatives Have Sworn On The Bible To Protect Our Constitution, Our Freedom And AMERICA !!! The Question Begs To Be Answered As To Why Are They Allowing This Destruction Of AMERICA ?!?!

    Wake Up America before We End Up With Our FIRST muslim/islamist Dictator and Chief !!

    MAY GOD HELP US ALL SAVE AMERICA, OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR FREEDOM AND OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ( EXCEPT FOR ANY EVIL RELIGIOUS BELIEF AND/OR CULT BELIEF AGAINST HUMANITY ) !!

  8. James Elliott McDaniel says

    MOLON LABE!

  9. MAHB001 says

    “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
    ——Lenin

    That is the ONLY reason 0-bama pushes gun control. PERIOD.

    1. George says

      In a country where guns are permitted , the people are called citizens ; in a country where guns are outlawed ; they are known as , ‘ subjects ‘.

  10. Steve says

    If, if this Democratic party attempts to take our 2nd amendment or restrict it so severally, I think there will be hell to pay. But I’m hoping and prying that the remaining supreme court justices will finally back our written constitution.

    1. hankthetank says

      They WON’T !!!

  11. rchguns says

    I’m a disabled veteran, fortunately not severely,a life member of the NRA, and the next deputy Sheriff.

    This being said I’m a very large proponent of gun control and believe that it is an absolute necessity. What does gun control mean?

    It means being able to hit your target. Putting a bullet where you want it and only where you want it.

    1. AKLady says

      Ir also means keeping guns out of thw hands of the mentally ill, the criminal and the terrorist.
      Statistics show that homeowners with guns tend to be shot with their own weapon during a crime.

      1. rchguns says

        You realy need to get the facts. Go to the FBI records Guns save more lives than the cost.

        1. AKLady says

          My statement is an FBI statistic.

          1. rchguns says

            I hasten to tell you that your statistics are not from the FBI there more than likely from the Brady Bunch by the other anti-gun people.

            Here’s an example 3 years ago they made a push information that said that there was one child killed with a gun in the United States every three minutes. Do the math on that one. As an ex-law enforcement officer I can personally testify that the facts are wrong on that.

            Consider that if you live in a reasonably large metropolitan area and someone breaks in your home and you call 911 the response time if you’re lucky will be 15 to 20 minutes and more than likely closer to 30 to 35 minutes. In the meantime you are dead, your husband’s dead you three kids are dead in your cats been raped. If you’re lucky the police may catch the people who did this later but more than likely they never will. You add to this that the police can do absolutely nothing until a crime is been committed.

            Personally any individual who is not willing to take their own safety and security into their own hands should not expect to enjoy either. Unless you have a neighbor who is willing to put his life on the line you are up that well-known Creek.

          2. AKLady says

            In 2013 there were 12,253 firearm deaths.

            Firearms accounted for 8,454 of those deaths.

            Medical literature documents that a homeowner’s gun is more likely to kill its owner than a criminal home invader.

            Statistics say you are more likely to be killed by own gun.
            Talk is cheap. Actually killing someone is far more difficult.

          3. SNuss says

            Myth #6 “A homeowner is 43 times as likely to
            be killed or kill a family member as an intruder”

            To suggest that science has proven that defending oneself
            or one’s family with a gun is dangerous, gun prohibitionists repeat Dr.
            Kellermann’s long discredited claim: “a gun owner is 43 times more
            likely to kill a family member than an intruder.” [17] This fallacy
            , fabricated using tax dollars, is one of the most misused slogans of the
            anti-self-defense lobby.

            The honest measure of the protective benefits of guns
            are the lives saved, the injuries prevented, the medical costs saved, and
            the property protected not Kellermann’s burglar or rapist body count. Only
            0.1% (1 in a thousand) of the defensive uses of guns results in the death
            of the predator. [3] Any study, such as Kellermann’ “43 times”
            fallacy, that only counts bodies will expectedly underestimate the benefits
            of gun a thousand fold. Think for a minute. Would anyone suggest that the
            only measure of the benefit of law enforcement is the number of people
            killed by police? Of course not. The honest measure of the benefits of
            guns are the lives saved, the injuries prevented, the medical costs saved
            by deaths and injuries averted, and the property protected. 65 lives protected
            by guns for every life lost to a gun. [2]

            Kellermann recently downgraded his estimate to “2.7
            times,” [18] but he persisted in discredited methodology. He used
            a method that cannot distinguish between “cause” and “effect.”
            His method would be like finding more diet drinks in the refrigerators
            of fat people and then concluding that diet drinks “cause” obesity.

            Also, he studied groups with high rates of violent criminality,
            alcoholism, drug addiction, abject poverty, and domestic abuse . From such
            a poor and violent study group he attempted to generalize his findings
            to normal homes. Interestingly, when Dr. Kellermann was interviewed he
            stated that, if his wife were attacked, he would want her to have a gun
            for protection.[19] Apparently, Dr. Kellermann doesn’t even believe his
            own studies.

            Read more at: http://www.rense.com/general32/nine.htm

          4. George says

            Quit Lying ‘.

          5. AKLady says

            Sekf-imposed ignorance is so sad.
            You don’t want your assumptions damaged,
            so you refusw to do any research.

    2. George says

      Gun control means using both hands ‘ .

  12. Deborah Henderson says

    There are never mass shootings at Bass Pro/Cabellas, NRA Meetings. Gun Ranges, Army/Navy Stores, or Gun Shows/Stores because these places are not easy targets. Mass shooters are like wild animals, they are looking for easy prey so they go where our government prevents LAWFUL people from carrying guns, schools, churches, community centers, Recruiting Offices, movie theaters, etc. and therefore the people in these places are easy prey. It makes me sick to know that my child goes to school with one deputy at the school when there are several teachers who have military training and should be allowed to carry. Granted I would want those guns to be locked up unless needed because children don’t think now days.

    However, growing up all my dad’s guns were accessible to me and my brother. Hunting rifles in the top of my brothers closet, in top of my mom’s and dad’s closet, pistol in the night stand drawer and a few in my dad’s chest of drawers, not once did my brother or I touch them without permission. If we had neither of us would be here to tell the story (or so we thought) because our parents would have wore us out.

    1. AKLady says

      Funny thing, Deborah, there are mass shooting on military basis.
      Maybe people should actually look at the firearns which were used at the time the Constitution was written.

      1. SNuss says

        The reason for that is because the soldiers are not allowed to carry weapons on the post. Most of the area is a “gun-free zone”, thanks to “Slick Willie” Clinton: http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/09/24573-president-bill-clinton-responsible-for-leaving-personnel-at-military-bases-defenseless/

        1. AKLady says

          I lived on or near military basis for the majority of my life.
          The military police carry weapons on every military post.

          Check out the 1992 Department of Defense directive, issued by President George H. W. Bush.

          You might want to learn how your country actually works.

          1. SNuss says

            Re-read my link. ONLY the military police are allowed to be armed, the rest of our military is required to be disarmed, on base. When Major Hassan started shooting, there were no MP’s nearby to stop him, only unarmed victims. Just like in civilian “gun-free zones”.

          2. AKLady says

            The were several military bases in which city streets ran right through the middle. Do they still exist? I cannot remember which they were.

            Having been around military the majority of my life, I cam comfortably say the majority of our military do not carry weapons, and have no desire to do so outside of combat zones.

            This carry hype is only going to end with more accidental shootings and negligent homicides. Most will involve in self-inflected injury or the death of a family member.

          3. SNuss says

            FYI, concealed-carry permit holders have a BETTER record of NOT shooting bystanders, than do the police.
            https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/who-are-the-greater-threats-to-public-safety-police-or-carry-permit-holders/

      2. Deborah Henderson says

        Our forefathers did not know when the constitution was written that there would be automatic weapons. I give you that as they could not see into the future. However, the citizens at that time had the same weapons the military,militia had as many if not all of them brought their own guns with them to fight. Our forefathers knew that we citizens had to have the same weapons as the government to keep the government in control and we have failed miserably at it.

  13. Combatvet52 says

    I have a pen and phone……..guess what boy we have a hell of a lot more than you.

  14. Tiger says

    The history of the world shows clearly what happens when the only one who has guns is the government. Those who survived WWII had guns those that did not we know the story.

    People will suffer many things under government until they wake, as America has that we now have Despotism. To quote the Declaration of Independence: “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security……………….”.

    The end of the line folks.

    1. AKLady says

      Many without “guns” survived WW II.
      Why do you exaggerate?
      It is the same as lying.

      1. Tiger says

        Those without guns who survived WWII went along with the Nazi. Those who did not support the Nazi were killed. The only one’s who did survive were those who did have guns and went into the mountains and attacked the Germans at night.

        Get a brain. Say something just one time that proves you have a lick of sense.

        1. AKLady says

          Those with guns were slaughtered like sheep.
          You cannot rewrite history to suit yourself.
          It is apparent that you have never known anyone who survived that war.
          It is apparent that you have never know anyone who survived the camps.

          1. Tiger says

            Not me rewriting history but you and it won’t be tolerated by those like me.

            My mother and grandfather interred in POW camps for the duration of WWII. My father in the Death March you don’t know anything about me. I know more than you could forget.

          2. AKLady says

            I grew up neighbors and family with numbers tattooed on the arms.

            Unless one was part of an organized resistence group, possessing a firearm meant death.

            I had the honor of knowing resistence fighters who survived the war.

            I worked directly with Cuban refugees in the 1960s.

            One of my mother’s close friends, a professional colleague, murdered her infant son who would not stop crying. Had she not done so, she, her other son and 15 people escaping East Berlin would have been captured and shot.

            Quite frankly, Tiger, insults only matter to someone who respect your opinion.

            You lost any respect I help for you quite some time ago.

          3. Tiger says

            You never had my respect.

            I grew-up around people also. Every Summer I spent at my grandfathers home and he was a Consul in his time and continued being involved in politics all his life. The people who came to his home came from all over the world. He never stopped helping people out of Communist, Socialist and Dictator ruled countries. I spent a lifetime hearing stories.

            When I lived in Europe for those years I met many who survived the Nazi and also met those who had been in the French Resistance. It was started by a blind fifteen year old boy. Mostly boys were the members for the longest because they could get around easily. I went to a village in France where we had the pleasure of having a guide who was part of the resistance and he shared many stories with us.

            The story you tell about the mother suffocating her child has been in movies about WWII. I wonder if that is real or something you saw on film and decided to say it. See I don’t trust you. Nothing you say rings true so many times.

            You are so right insults only work when people give a damn about your opinion and I never cared for yours as you cut and paste the same things over and over to everyone.

          4. AKLady says

            Socialism and Comunism are not the same economic structure. They are not identical politucal structures.

            I knew the woman personally. She was a physician. Suggest you save your insults for someone you can impress. I am not one of them. You might also save your lies for people you can impress.

          5. Tiger says

            I never post to impress and I never lived my life to impress anyone, just seems people were impressed many times at my accomplishments.

            Save your cut and paste for someone who cares.

          6. SNuss says

            Socialism is the transition point between Capitalism and Communism.

          7. AKLady says

            Maybe you should tell that to these countries that don’t seem to know that:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Denmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          8. AKLady says

            Oh, and you might also try to remember that the U.S.S.R. no longer exists.

          9. SNuss says

            I never realized that the concentration camp prisoners ( who WERE slaughtered like sheep) were armed, according to your logic.

          10. AKLady says

            Those with guns never made it to the concentration camps.

      2. George says

        GO TRUMP ” .

        1. AKLady says

          Be careful what you ask for.

    2. SNuss says

      See “The Battle of Athens” for just what you are describing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-Dsg4X4Dk

      1. Tiger says

        I know the Battle of Athens well. ;p

  15. Outtruder says

    Criminals prefer the unarmed,corrupt governments are of the same caliber,pun intended!

  16. Roy Fredrichsen says

    Sure looks to me like the majority of citizens are waking up from the slumber the dumdocrats have been feeding them. All that GUN CONTROL does is disarm the public. If you REALLY look at the record, NOT ONE gun control law has prevented one robbery, rape or murder because criminals DO NOT buy their guns when it’s easier to steal them as just happened recently.

    1. AKLady says

      &&&
      Who is going to protect you from the druggie down the street if he owns a machine gun and decides to shoot up the neighborhood?

      1. Roy Fredrichsen says

        Obviously you have no idea of the alternatives us native Texans have at our disposal to repel any unlawful intruder with or without a machine gun. Ever heard about ingenuity?

        1. AKLady says

          I’ve lived in Texas.
          I’ve heaed the bragging.
          I live in Alaska.
          We are larger.
          So are our stories.

          1. Roy Fredrichsen says

            If you live in Alaska, the Russians live across the pond from you. Be careful the Ruskies don’t attack you. Vladivostak will be their “jumping off” point.

          2. AKLady says

            Actually,prior to climate change, it was possible to walk from Russia to Alaska in the winter. Big Diomed is only 2.4 miles from Little Diomede. Both of those islands are in the Bering Strait

          3. Roy Fredrichsen says

            Yes, I know a lot about Alaskas history starting with it being called “Sewards Folly” which turned out to be the best deal he ever made when Gold was discovered in “Them Thar Hills”. History was my favorite subject in school.

          4. AKLady says

            What has that to do with American – Russian geography?

          5. Roy Fredrichsen says

            I was getting around to reminding you our Allies confiscated our B-29s during WWII in Vladivostok and tried to replicate them with no success for technical reasons. So, “beware of Russians bearing gifts.”

          6. AKLady says

            What has that to do with American – Russian geography?

          7. SNuss says

            Actually, the Russians DID replicate the B-29s, including their flaws, such as engine over-heating problems. Their version was the Tu-4.
            http://b-29s-over-korea.com/shortstories/russianclone.htm

          8. Roy Fredrichsen says

            Yes. I knew, but I wanted to see if AKLady would pick-up on it. She didn’t.

  17. Tiger says

    White House been put on Lockdown only thing I found was big bang been looking nothing on our news.

    Can only hope he taken down and out.

  18. hankthetank says

    WHO, is going to protect us from the gov. goons ???,if we have no guns ?

    1. AKLady says

      Who is going to protect you from the druggie down the street if he owns a machine gun and decides to shoot up the neighborhood?

  19. Joseph Kiesznoski says

    I don’t care what states do, The Constitution is my Permit………………………………………..

    1. AKLady says

      No, it is not.
      The Constitutional right to bear arms does not include many types of armament.
      The Constitutional right does not say that you cannot be told where you can and cannot carry a gun.

      1. Joseph Kiesznoski says

        Nope , Your Wrong

        1. AKLady says

          Suggest you learn the law, else you will find yourself in jail, if not a federal prison. Good luck.

          1. Joseph Kiesznoski says

            Wrong, Not A chance

        2. Joseph Kiesznoski says

          PHD on history and the Constitution

    2. MTnman says

      “(4) The U.S. Constitution does not adequately define “arms”. When it was adopted, “arms” included muzzle-loaded muskets and pistols, swords, knives, bows with arrows, and spears. However, a common- law definition would be “light infantry weapons which can be carried and used, together with ammunition, by a single militiaman, functionally equivalent to those commonly used by infantrymen in land warfare.” That certainly includes modern rifles and handguns, full-auto machine guns and shotguns, grenade and grenade launchers, flares, smoke, tear gas, incendiary rounds, and anti-tank weapons, but not heavy artillery, rockets, or bombs, or lethal chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. Somewhere in between we need to draw the line. The standard has to be that “arms” includes weapons which would enable citizens to effectively resist government tyranny, but the precise line will be drawn politically rather than constitutionally. The rule should be that “arms” includes all light infantry weapons that do not cause mass destruction. If we follow the rule that personal rights should be interpreted broadly and governmental powers narrowly, which was the intention of the Framers, instead of the reverse, then “arms” must be interpreted broadly.” – 1994 Constitution Society

      1. Joseph Kiesznoski says

        hog wash

        1. MTnman says

          This is in your defense. It is from the Constitution Society, a group that studies and interprets its meaning. Where is your “hog wash” and reference? I am always eager to read opposing views, if well researched. Maybe you have misinterpreted my quoted post.

          1. Joseph Kiesznoski says

            With any form of Gun Control , You are no longer a Citizen , You are a Subject, My Wife’s Family Survived Auschwitz, And he dad said NEVER give up you arms like we did, You will pay dearly………………………

        2. Joseph Kiesznoski says

          it’s your opinion even thou it’s wrong

      2. SNuss says

        Some of the Colonists owned cannons.

  20. politicianssuck says

    almost every republican now in congress has voted for gun control

    1. George says

      GO TRUMP ‘.

  21. dondehoff says

    I would like to see our “right to carry” laws and the Constitution, expanded even further. Restrict the right to carry after physical violence legal proceedings, ,only when guns or other weapons were involved or threatened to be used. —not just the fact the parties had a physical confrontation. Most all such encounters do no even remotely involve weapons or the thought of using such. And, in most such disputes the issues and facts are difficult as ascertain. Also, all such violence issues not involving guns that have been adjudicated with resulting gun restrictions, should be nullified—there could be exceptions of course, for repeated violent offenders. The current situation is, we have taken the “right to carry” from thousands of citizens, who had no intention of using a gun in a physical confrontation. All such cases on the books should be modified, to remove the prohibition of the right to carry or won a gun—the safety of individuals and this great country should take priority.

  22. George says

    In a nation where guns are permitted , the people are called ‘ citizens ‘ ; in a nation where guns are outlawed , they are known as , ‘ subjects ‘.

  23. johnz says

    It sad when only mentally ill solutions, and failed ideology the lefty’s and fascist can come up with , because enforcement can’t deal with the gangs and murders. And now have been directed towards PC enforcement ,which is a safer target and against law abiding citizens.

  24. MTnman says

    Let’s get down to the grit of the nitty with a ditty quote from Thomas Jefferson that needs repeating: “Rebellion keeps rulers on their toes. What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time-to-time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance — Let them take arms — what signify a few lives lost in a century or two. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time-to-time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

    Leftists (Syn. socialist, anarchist, communist; see AGITATOR, LIBERAL, RADICAL, PROGRESSIVE; Webster’s College Dictionary, Fourth Edition) howl when they see that quote and they will try to intimidate, ridicule and mock anyone who dares mention it.

    Today’s DINOs are not those of our mother’s and father’s, but that enrichment of our political soil priming rebellion.

  25. snowyriver says

    With Hitler killing 15 million unarmed citizens and Stalin killing 20 million, plus Me Tse tung of china killing another 20 million.. That is 55 million unarmed citizens killed by their trusted government. Think what America would be like with 55 million gone.

    1. MTnman says

      You lowballed Mao; upwards of 78 million. http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

      Democide: The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder.

      1. snowyriver says

        Did a little research myself also.. I lowballed Stalin also..

  26. fishunter says

    The liberal dictators in Colorado need to learn the truth about the 2nd. Amendment. The Democrat controlled state senate continues to defeat good attempts to enable the people to enjoy their rights. The magazine limitation prevents us from purchasing many guns because they come with magazines over 15 rounds. I would still purchase them, however 15 round magazines are not available in many cases. I consider this a direct constitutional infringement.

  27. dhartley231 . says

    THE POS GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO CONTROL US WE WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED!!!

  28. DirtOnDemocrats Dot Com says

    This is huge! “Thank Goodness for Guns in America” indeed!

  29. TAM44 says

    With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects. That’s what this corrupt government wants is to make us all slaves, not just the blacks who have been slaves to the democrats who did not want them free in the first place, and they are still beholding to the democrats today. They want their own protection but we just don’t matter as slaves. Look back at history and see what happened to the millions who were had their guns taken only to be slaughtered. I don’t ever want to be a subject, and you should not want to be one. Want to make yourself a safer person, buy a gun, it’s there for you, our government is not.

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