Divided We Fall – The Letter to Iran


Led by Tom Cotton, 47 Republican senators signed their names to an open letter this week, aimed at Iranian leaders.

“You may not fully understand our constitutional system,” the letter read. It warned Iran that they would view “any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Obama and Ayatollah Khamenei. The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.”

To put it bluntly, this letter is a national shame. Not the fact that it was written, mind you, but the fact that it had to be written. American leaders don’t have to agree on foreign policy, but it is vital that our government presents a united front when it comes to our enemies. And whether President Obama wants to admit it or not, Iran is one of those enemies. That he has allowed his ego to push him into unilateral negotiations that could jeopardize the Middle East, Israel, American national security, and the entire world is a frightening and disgusting turn of events.

This president believes that he can change the world through appeasement and apologies. He comes to the office of the presidency with the mindset of a child. Merely by hoping for something, he can make it happen. And even if he can’t, he’ll at least get credit in the history books for making the effort. Well, that attitude is one thing when it comes to Cuba, but it’s quite another when it comes to the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The Democrats have been screaming about the treasonous nature of the letter, apparently forgetting how they acted when George W. Bush was president. Those were the days they praised dissent as important and patriotic. Vice President Joe Biden said the letter was “beneath the dignity of an institution I revere.”

I agree. The letter is an abomination. But the Republicans have nothing to be ashamed of. They did what had to be done. There is talk now that some Republicans are regretting the move behind closed doors, but that’s only because they are – 99 percent of the time – utterly spineless. They should be proud of what they did. It’s one of the first times in recent memory that they did anything worthy of praise.

I wouldn’t say that if the stakes weren’t so high. I wouldn’t say that if they had written a similar letter on the Cuba deal. But we’re talking about setting a designated terrorist state on the path to achieving a nuclear weapon. We’re talking about a move that could very well be regarded as one of the worst mistakes in American history. Scratch that – in human history. If it takes breaking some protocols to prevent that mistake, then that’s what it takes.

  1. Hamilton says

    Treasonous nature of the letter? How can that be when the 47 are acting against a president whose policies endanger the nation, and not arguably so? There can be no doubt that if Iran gets nukes, the world will change and we can count on nuclear attacks just as assuredly as one can count on a bullet emerging of a loaded and cocked gun when the trigger is squeezed. The Iranian regime has historically and persistently promised that. Based on their past actions, there is no reason to believe in idle threats.

    At issue here is the ‘executive order’ in a nation where its Constitution forbids the president to create law. At issue here is what appears to be weaknesses in our Constitution that don’t seem to prevent our president from issuing executive orders that countermand existing law, thus overriding those laws and the Constitutional law-making authority of the congress. At issue here is that this president, and indeed any president, who issues executive orders in such a manner, is effectively acting alone, setting and running government policy in totalitarian fashion. At issue here is that this continues unabated and that if there is the will within congress and the courts to stop it, then there isn’t the legal mechanism. At issue here is that our Constitutional Republic prohibits kings and dictators, yet our current president is acting as such.

    The letter to Iran is indeed a national shame for the fact that the 47 senators thought it necessary to write it. The shame is due to the fact that we elected a president whose policies endanger us and our allies by allowing our enemies to strengthen themselves. And the shame is due to the fact that the letter wasn’t signed by the entire senate. But a worse national shame would be if we, as a nation, and in particular with inaction by congress, decide that deposing or otherwise neutralizing our rogue president is somehow disrespectful to the office of the presidency. The disrespect would be to allow such a dangerous man to continue unabated, thereby soiling the office and setting a dreadful precedent for the future.

    1. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

      I don’t think that Obama can be stopped and i’m glad the 47 senators wrote this letter for we need to try and stop Obama any damn way we can. Obama and the democrats have done a great INJUSTIC to us and AMERICA.

      1. Rick Rogers says

        That makes you just a much a Traitor.

        1. John Driggers says

          well Rick Rogers, you may be right being under the Obama regime Irene is a traitor, but as an American she is a Patriot

          1. Mark Lahti says

            John. Sheeple such as Rick don’t have sufficient gray matter to wrap their heads around the reality of the world and especially the country we live in today. To compare a letter with all the constitutional violations this POS POTUS is getting away with can only come from the mouth of a liberal. A liberal that lives in the world of Obamanation. It is truly sad that these liberals can not wake to this reality. But such is the nature of the liberal mind.

          2. Rick Rogers says

            Ok Mark Lahti.. you have your soap box.. Please give me a list of these suppose Constitutional Violations. I keep hearing this over and over an no one bothers to say what they are. But keep in mind if you do provide the list let there be no doubt I will respond to your list with the precedent for each action you believe is a Constitutional violation that was done before by a Republican President.

          3. Ed Leon says

            Really? I wonder what Constitution you are reading. Is it the Soviet Union one? The violations to the US Constitution this unlawful impostor, and dictator that calls himself the POTUS are way too long to just put in a post and discuss. You need a half day meeting for that. If you are not even remotely aware of that only shows to everyone here that you are drunk in the Obama Koolaid. Is it not enough violation that a president unilaterally decides to enforce or not enforce the laws that have been approved by Congress and much less change the existing laws?The immigration laws that are in the books can only be changed by Congress, and the POTUS have no right, not now, not ever to change, or create his own laws, or by decree create his own executive orders that contradict, violate, and do exactly the opposite of the laws that are in the books. He is now under investigation by a federal judge for continuing with the process of his dictatorial amnesty, even after a judge has stopped it until the lawsuits of several states are heard in federal courts. He even said that he would not abide by that order. He doesn’t respect Congress, and now he is disrespecting the judiciary. The checks and balances in the US Constitution are not there for the POTUS to use as toilet paper. He decided he did not like the DOMA, a law that is in the books and it is his constitutional responsibility to enforce until the it is repealed or changed by Congress. He told his puppet Holder to not enforce it. Like a said I would need a book to write all of his constitutional violations. Some of them like creating Czars of this and Czars of the other, executive positions that have never existed and that respond to no one but him without the need to be confirmed by the Senate and given enormous powers even more than some of the Secretaries in his cabinet. What is this, Russia? But suffice it to say that this country is the greatest peril that it has ever been with a dictator like that and millions of traitors that defend him no matter what he does. Right now he wants to basically put the option of nuclear capabilities in the most violent sponsor of terrorism in the whole world, and one that has made unambiguous threats to annihilate if they can the big satan (where you live), and little satan, Israel (our biggest ally and only democracy in the Mid East). And you all call yourself Democrats? Hypocrites! You don’t believe in Democracy, otherwise the support that your administration should have with Israel would have been unconditional as the only democracy surrounded by Islamic nations that want to destroy it. And all because as he fools you and makes you drunk with the Koolaid, he also hides from you that he is a Muslim at heart. And don’t tell me that all he does is because he doesn’t want to offend the Muslims, because he doesn’t give a rat’s ass in offending Christians with his immoral policies. He goes and prays with them and puts his ass upright on his carpet, but cannot go to the National Day of Prayer, and forbid Franklyn Graham to speak there because he would denounce the terrorist attacks in 9/11 as what it was Islamic terrorism. What you all are asking her is for a Civil War to reestablish a Constitutional Republic. Don’t ask for it too much because you might get it, I doubt that the Patriots in this country are going to allow silently Obama finish the job of transforming this country to a Socialist Republic.

          4. Rick Rogers says

            The DOMA was so outrageous that the Supreme court Ruled it unconstitutional.. And Your going to condemn him for not supporting a blatantly unconstitutional Law. Immigration. The system is broken.. The Senate understood this and past Reform that the president said he would sign. But the house will not even vote on it. As for his executive orders on this you seem to be missing one thing. The current system is not working and is wasting money and destroying families and people have been calling on him to fix the system. The part you seem to be forgetting is that he told anyone that wanted to listen that it the order was to fix and existing problem until Congress could pass a law to fix it. He said when he rolled it out and I still have it on my DVR that when they did his Executive order would be Null and Void. And you know what happen.. Not a damn thing because the Republicans refuse to act on the House bill. Muslim at heart. WHO GAVES A DAMN.. There is no and has never been a religious Test in this country to hold office. To do so opens up the possibility of Religious Discrimination.. You know that thing that most of our Ancestors came to the “NEW WORLD” to get away from. As for Franklin Graham I live in the same City as that “gentleman” and have hard him speak a number of times and he is the worst type of Religious Bigot it has been my misforture to run around. The Majority of People in Charlotte that KNOW him want nothing to do with him. So yes I have no problem with not providing him with a soapbox to rant on. Let him go find his own.

          5. Ed Leon says

            The Constitution did not provide a way out so the president rules singlehandedly like a king to do everything that comes out of his balls. There has to be a system of checks and balances. The problem with you liberals is that you are tolerant as long as everybody agrees with you. The electorate voted in a Republican majority in the House exactly to do what you say is doing, to stop garbage legislation from passing. The laws that the Democrat Majority Senate passed were terrible laws that still allowed much of what is happening without the law. It still allowed all people that have come illegally to stay here and have all the rights of citizens, the same that Obama is doing by King Decree. And him being a Muslim doesn’t bother you? It shows that you know absolutely nothing about the religion of Islam. Our Founding Fathers where in their majority Bible believing Christians that wanted to leave England because of their adopted state religion there and religious persecution. That’s what the first amendment to the Constitution is all about. And it says Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peacefully assemble. The key word there is peacefully assemble. If you call decapitations, dismembering, and burning alive innocent people peacefully assemble, then I am wasting my precious time, you are too ignorant to even have a debate. The Koran teaches its followers that is the duty of the Muslim to Jihad for the advancement of the worldwide dominion of all people and nations and to all convert to Islam. The so called “peaceful” Muslims are using some of the methods sanctioned by the Koran, and they work towards the same goals as the ones that are decapitating people, burning people, and dismembering innocent people. The Koran says to kill by the sword, or by decapitation, anyone that doesn’t convert to Islam. I don’t have a problem with “Muslims” that do not follow the commands of their “holy book”, because they for all practical purposes are not Muslims and are apostates. They are killed by Isis, and all fundamental Muslims worldwide everyday! Now your Muslim implant in the White House is practicing taqiyya, which is allowed by that demonic, wicked and barbarian religion to lie and to deceive for the cause of Islam. If you think I am making this up, get a copy of the damn Koran and read it yourself. When you get it let me know and I will give you the verses where all of this is written! It is fools like you and many that believe every lie he tells you all. He doesn’t want to call terrorism “Islam Terrorism”, because those are his brothers and sisters. It is incredible the number of Muslims that are in the White House as consultants, and he has even named several Homeland Security officers and advisors that are Muslims. Talking about the foxes guarding the hen house! They stay that way until they have enough people in office and the population has increased that they elect their leaders and begin changing a country to comply with Sharia Law. The same “peaceful” Muslims have their mosques as teaching centers, and breeding grounds for Jihad. many have gone from here to join ISIS. No Islam is not a peaceful religion but a system of government tagged with a religion that allows no dissent whatsoever. If that is what you want then stay supporting that demon that you have in the White House.

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry You can forget this REPUBLICANS have a Mandate crap because it is just that Crap.. About 18.9 percent of the eligible registered Voters sided with this so called Republican majority.. if you think less the 20 percent is a mandate I suggest you look up the word mandate because I don’t think it means what you think it means. PROCESS THIS.. YOU ARE THE MINIORITY. YOUR PARTY IS LOSING NEW VOTERS AT A TWO TO ONE Ratio every time a group of Americans Hit 18.. Last Count showed there were 47 million Democrats to 32 million Republicans. The wild Card is the Independents and in the Last TWO elections the Independents have voted for this person your refer to as a King, Dictator, Muslim? take your pick. You ask if he being a Muslim bothers me.. Well number one .. He is not Muslim.. number 2 it does not matter one bit if he was because and let me YELL THIS>. THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS TEST TO HOLD OFFICE IN THIS COUNTRY. TO SAY YOU WOULD NOT VOTE FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION PUT YOU IN THE SAME CLASS AS HITLER.

          7. Ed Leon says

            Yeah, you conveniently ignored my explaining of what the Muslim religion is all about. Let me put it in your pea brain cognitive thinking capacity. What it means is that they are coming for you too when they are in power because if you are not a Muslim you are an infidel, the same as everybody else, except your Muslim King Abdulama. Don’t think that because you side with him you will be spared. Either you convert to Islam or you die. Which one will it be? And regarding the 18.9% or the 20% bullshit you are talking about, the Republican majority in the House is the biggest that the Republican Party had in the last 80 years. So who the hell voted for the avalanche of new seats that the Republicans won and the Democrats lost? That was a rebuke to the policies of your king. If you call having a Majority of seats in both the Senate and the House a minority, then you are beyond stupid, you need to go back to school to learn elementary arithmetic. Those seats that represent a majority in both chambers of Congress were elected by majority of voters, they are impossible to obtain otherwise (majority more than 50%of the votes, you know?). And besides your bullshit that all voters turning 18 is wishful thinking, the opposite is happening, more and more of the youth are waking up to the values of hard work, and to be accountable for your own decisions, and to the ideals of freedom and liberty capitalism offers, to being able to keep what you work for and not getting stolen by the government to give it to the irresponsible, lazy and stupid. And to have a damned balanced budget. Not your spread the wealth socialist ideas and programs of your king. Do you work for the Obama administration? I should have asked that first, because that means you are in the core of the Koolaid brainwash. And being in the same class as Hitler? Wow, you are beyond the core of liberalism and progressivism propaganda. That’s exactly what Hitler did! The last thing Hitler used to come to power was religion! Which history books are you reading, the ones full of distortion that liberals have created to distort history? Hitler won because of economical reasons and used racism to take the wealth from the Jews while murdering millions. In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the main thesis of “the Jewish peril”, which posits a Jewish conspiracy to gain world leadership.The narrative described the process by which he became increasingly antisemitic and militaristic. Now you liberals have a lot in common with Hitler, you lie and distort and repeat it until you believe yourselves, the same way Hitler did with speakers repeating a lie constantly until it was accepted as the truth. Well that works with the plantation of government dependent people and the useful idiots. I agree with Michael Savage that liberalism is a mental disease.

          8. Rick Rogers says

            Yes because Religious Bigotry does not deserve to be commented on. Or I would have to point out that our home grown “Christian terrorist ” KKK, Neo-Nazis, militias are more of a terrorist Theat. And Regarding you not understanding that the Republican Party only won 18.9 percent of the Eligible voters in this country.. IF I need to go into detail so be it.

            out of a 100 Percent of Eligible Voters in this country only 36.9 percent showed up to vote in the mid Term. That means 64.1 percent Stayed home.. So of that 36.9 that voted you won I believe it was something like 51.2 percent of the 36.9 turn out. or 18.9 percent of eligible voters SO THAT MEANS YOUR A MINIORTY because the sad thing is most people only vote in years of Presidential Elections. SO BAD NEWS Sherlock.. there is a Presidential Election in 2016 and the last one in 2012 had a 58.2% percent Voter turn out. Sorry to burst you bubble.. but you control of the Senate and maybe even the house is a short lived thing. Whine all you want to but numbers don’t lie. Oh and just so you know.. If you were to add up all the votes based on Party of all the congressional Districts Totaled The Democrats have had more votes then the Republicans in every election since 1998. The Districts and Gerrymandering at the state level is the ONLY reason The Republicans have control right now. So You might want to move to that Island in the Pacific.. You know the one deNIAL

          9. Ed Leon says

            Then you are a minority too, and a smaller one!! Because according to you only 36.9 turned out to vote and you believe that was something like 51.2 percent and hence the 18.9% you talk about, which means that you got exactly 48.8% of the vote which equals exactly 18% (36.9 x .488). How’s that for a majority, genius. Ha, ha, ha, man don’t provide that kind of evidence for me! The other error is the KKK, Neo Nazis, and militias are not Christians. Of course you may have the brainwashed version of Christianity and totally false and distorted. The mandate of the Lord Jesus Christ was to preach the gospel to every create. The teachings of Christianity come from Christ and He said in two commandments there is all the law and the prophets, you shall love the Lord with all your heart, with all you mind, and with all your soul, and your neighbor as yourself. Regarding those groups as Christians is a lie form the very pits of hell. Typical lies and distortions of liberals. Man I am enjoying this a lot, because I am learning how divorced from reality you liberals are, and how the concept of the word truth is totally alien to you all! You would not recognize it even if it you between the eyes. But that’s ok, keep leaning on that side of bed, because you have such portents of candidates that a politically burnt firecracker is your main candidate. I want her to be on the ballot. Well that is if we have elections in 2016, because the way the King is going he may just declare himself permanent ruler between now and then.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            You know I was going to let it go but I can’t.. When got my first Air Force assignment it was to Turkey a Muslim Country that is a NATO Ally. The Commanding officer of My Training squadron call of us to a meeting that got assigned to Turkey and pointed out that as a Nato Ally and a Muslim country we were guest in their country so we were going to be provided materials on how to act like a proper guest. Your understanding of what the Koran says is not only incorrect but is fits into the definition of BIGOT with all the letters in Caps. I have been the guest of True Muslims in their country and still have all my fingers, Hands, Feet and Head Attached. In Fact during that year I think I sat in a Chair and let a Muslim Barber stand over me with a straight Razor at least once a week and never came away with even a nick. The Air Force Base in Turkey Incirlick had an Iman That greeted all new arrivals to that base and told us that he would talk about anything we wanted to discuss just as long as he could as us questions as well.. Your Grouping all Muslims as fanatics is just plain stupid. And am truly sorry you don’t understand how really wrong that it is. But American unfortunately has a habit of Hating one group or nationality or another just for the actions of a few. from 1700 thru 1890 it was the Native Americans, They gave why to the African Americans that is still going on today. Now you have the African Americans, The Hispanics, The Muslims, and Atheist to slander and belittle.. Bet you think you hit the jackpot. A bigot is a bigot and YOUR rant earns you your title.

          11. Ed Leon says

            Oh, you go with the Air Force to Turkey when, when they had a secular government? And the fact that they did not kill you or anyone in your group proves what? The Muslims have to observe diplomatic relations with the world while they have not imposed the Islamic Caliphate. You know I don’t mind you using the word bigot with me, and I don’t care. I consider the source. Now I have one for you and you deserve it caps too: NAIVE.


            The head IMAM in the U.S. is not even shy at hiding it, he says it over and over.

            What I say about the Koran I don’t say it THE KORAN SAYS IT:

            The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008

            How tolerant are Muslim countries? Well here is an example; no visitors visas are approved for Jews born in Israel in Saudi Arabia. And don’t get the bullshit that I am making this up. In March of 2014 a Jewish White House correspondent wanting to cover President Obama’s visit to the kingdom was denied a visa and could not enter the Kingdom. In general, if one cites Jewish as their religion but not born in Israel or from Israel, then it is likely the visa will be granted. However the odds of a visa being denied increase if one was born in Israel. I am personally not aware of anyone who is a Jew and from Israel being granted a visa to enter the Kingdom.
            Those are your peaceful tolerant friends. And you call me a bigot?
            We believe in the Constitutional right for anyone Muslim, Jew, Jehovah Witness, Buddhist, Taoist, and whatever, to peacefully assemble according to the 1st amendment to the Constitution. I don’t care if you put a frog on a pedestal and worship it. That’s your problem, as long as I don’t have to abide by your beliefs or else. Now try to go to Iran with a Bible on your hand, or try to build a Christian church there! We have bent backwards trying to accommodate religious freedom in this country, while all of those Muslim countries persecute and kill Christians and Jews, their churches are burned to the ground, they incarcerate American people for believing in Jesus Christ. Do we incarcerate Muslims here for assembling and worshipping in their mosques? The ones in the Guantanamo base are wanton killers that don’t even deserve to be there alive, they should have been executed the same way they do, and the tell them hey we are just imitating you, what goes around comes around. By the way we are following your own Muslim doctrines, and eye for an eye and a tooth for tooth.
            You are a complete naïve fool. I am not trying to convince you of anything by the way, this is for the benefit of others that read these posts. Of course most of the ones that write here are conservatives so I don’t have to convince too much. But the lies, and naiveté positions of liberals have to be exposed.

          12. Rick Rogers says

            You did not tell me you read Arabic. as you your FINDING I say they were worth the paper you wrote them on if you had actually bother to write them.

            Here something for you.

            لا يصدر الكونغرس أي قانون احترام مؤسسة الدين، أو يحظر الممارسة الحرة منه؛ أو الانتقاص من حرية التعبير، أو للصحافة؛ أو بحق

            شعب مسالمين التجمع، ومطالبة الحكومة الانتصاف من المظالم.

          13. Ed Leon says

            I never said I read Arabic, nor I have any interest. The verses I listed are from the English translation of the Koran which is used by anyone born in the states that are not born and raised Arabs. Have you read those verses specifically these ones?

            How does the Koran defines a true believer?
            Quran (4:76) “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

            Quran (4:74) “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”

            The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

            Quran (4:95) “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-”

            This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

            Quran (5:33) “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

            Quran (8:12) “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

            No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

            Quran (8:67) “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

            Peaceful, huh?

            Quran (9:73) O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”

            Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

            And there more than a hundred more that I have no space here to show.

            But what about the character of the prophet?

            Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.

            Do you know that Muslims were the biggest traders of slaves, and that they currently are the only ones that have slaves? Today they still have black slaves in Sudan, and Mauritania.
            I rest my case.

          14. Rick Rogers says

            to bad you did not make a case. Because you listed things out of a 1000 year old book.. Well I can do that as well. But let me start it off with a quote you know and can Frame your answers Above.. LET HE IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.. SO lets take a look at The Christian Book.

            Ephesians 6:5 SLAVES

            Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,


            Titus 2:9-10 SLAVES

            Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.


            Deuteronomy 21:18-21 DISOBEADENT FAMILY MEMBERS

            “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


            Matthew 15:4 ESV / DISOBEADENT FAMILY MEMBERS

            For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’

            Leviticus 20:9 ESV / DISOBEADENT FAMILY MEMBERS

            For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

            Exodus 21:15 ESV / DISOBEADENT FAMILY MEMBERS

            “Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death.


            Deuteronomy 22:22 ESV / Adultery

            “If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.


            Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ESV /Rapist

            “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

            Deuteronomy 21:10-14 ESV / More Rape

            “When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God gives them into your hand and you take them captive, and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you desire to take her to be your wife, and you bring her home to your house, she shall shave her head and pare her nails. And she shall take off the clothes in which she was captured and shall remain in your house and lament her father and her mother a full month. After that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. But if you no longer delight in her, you shall let her go where she wants. But you shall not sell her for money, nor shall you treat her as a slave, since you have humiliated her.


            Isaiah 66:24 ESV / Enemies

            “And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”


            Genesis 38:24 ESV /

            About three months later Judah was told, “Tamar your daughter-in-law has been immoral. Moreover, she is pregnant by immorality.” And Judah said, “Bring her out, and let her be burned.”

          15. Ed Leon says

            Nice! Do you know about the Mosaic Laws, and also do you know that when Christ came he chastised the Jews for following laws that were grievous and even that did not fulfill the spirit of the law? Like I said, Christ said in two commandments is all the law and the prophets, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength and your neighbor as yourself. Christ fulfilled the law and none of those All Testament laws are followed today, not even in Israel. Do any things listed by you are practiced by any Christian denominations anywhere in the world much less in America? The New Testament has all the doctrine and teachings to be followed by Christians. And Christ died on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice of love for the sins of the world.
            When did the New Testament happened in Islam? When did a new prophecy advocating loving your neighbor as yourself came? WE don’t see any of those Old Testament practices done today by any Bible believing born again Christian. However the things in the Quran that you say are 1,000 years old are practiced daily by ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, and over 30 fundamental Muslim groups. They are still believing in the dictates of that 1,000 old book. That should be even bad for liberals like you, because you all believe that nothing should be the same, change, everything has to change, that’s your mantra. Well they have not changed, that book is still their holy book, and I have not heard any Muslim ever saying that the Quran has been revoked.
            You believe whatever you want to believe. The fact is they are fooling you to make you believe that they are not for the worldwide Sharia Law Caliphate. Hell, it seems to me that you only hear the news form the ultraliberal media. They are even fighting in several places in the U.S. to impose Sharia Law to be accepted, and several states have legislated to forbid the use of Sharia Law, and their attorneys are fighting those states in court to have those state laws repealed. Ever since the Muslim King plant took over, Muslims have been more aggressive.

          16. Rick Rogers says

            Lets put this simply.. Hating a group of people because of some Fanatics is EVIL. The NAZIS claimed to be Christian yet you don’t see Muslims in the US going around Burning Churches. (No that’s for the Klan to do with Black Churches or you going to tell me that it was just chance that the only Church burned during the Ferguson unrest was a black church ). TO hate a group because of their Religion makes you a bigot there is no way you can justify it or explain it away. I would hazard a guess that you are a FOX news fan so tell me how can you believe what they say when one of the Major Owners is a Muslim.. And not just a Muslim but a Muslim that said US actions in middle East were what was responsible for 9/11.. NO not all Muslims are good people just like not all Christians are not. But The Majority of the Christian Right is full of hypocrite that would not understand Christian Charity if it slapped them in the face. Which by the way is what some of them REALLY DO NEED. And This Reason ED is why their needs to be Seperation of Church and state so we don’t have some Fanatics in control of the Government and trying to force their beliefs on everyone else. I am more worried about those in a political office then I am about those in a Desert somewhere in the Middle East

          17. Rick Rogers says

            You should really do your research before you comment. During my Year in Turkey it was still against Turkish Law to insult the Prophet, To Insult Islam and to Insult AtaTurk. So not as Secular as you seem to think.

          18. Carl Showalter says


          19. Rick Rogers says

            So you think that the fact she supports Violating a Federal Law makes her a patriot.. I think you might want to look up the word patriot I don’t think it means what you think it does.

          20. pappadave says

            What “federal law” was violated? The Senate has the authority to advise and consent to EVERY agreement between a President and a foreign nation. That this idiot in the White House has chosen to ignore that aspect of Constitutional law makes HIS actions a violation of federal law…not the Senate’s.

          21. Jarhead says

            Since when?

          22. pappadave says

            Since 1791.

          23. Jarhead says

            WRONG! Remember the purpose of the Bricker Amendment?

          24. David Kledzik says

            Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2, is when…… The president can negotiate all he wants, but only congress can ratify a treaty to make it legally binding. Its when the president sidesteps congress to make his own treaties is when he violates Constitutional law. Thats why we aren’t part of the U.N. small arms trade treaty, because the Senate won’t ratify it.
            SEMPER FIDELIS 1983-2004

          25. Rick Rogers says

            David Kledzik you description is mostly true but the wording is off slightly and that makes a difference. Yes they Do advise and consent of Treaties that are brought before them but they don’t have the right to Interfere during the negotiations of those Treated. He has not Violated any Constitutional Law because he has not presented Congress with a treaty that is in the process of being written. Also Here is the wording of the Senate website on their roles in treaties

            The Constitution gives to the Senate the sole power to approve, by a two-thirds vote, treaties negotiated by the executive branch. The Senate does not ratify treaties. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification. http://www.senate.gov/general/Features/Treaties_display.htm

          26. Rick Rogers says

            Pappadave I respect your answering this but there is a misunderstanding here. yes they have the authority to advise and Consent every agreement that is signed by the President and Presented to them. But they don’t have the Authority to try and Dictate that agreement when its in the process of being worked out. The Constitution and Federal Case history has said this very clearly in the pass. The Senate job is not to make the agreement that’s the presidents job. BUT they want to power grab that to trying to be relevant. Pappadave I am not asking you to take my word but here is the link from the Senate.gov website that spells out what that means http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Treaties.htm. Take a close look at the section about Executive Agreements . In 1952, for instance, the United States signed 14 treaties and 291 executive agreements. This was a larger number of executive agreements than had been reached during the entire century of 1789 to 1889. Executive agreements continue to grow at a rapid rate. Now having said that. He has not presented a Treaty to the Senate because they are in the process of working it out there is no violation in not giving the Senate something that is not written yet. They are over stopping the Constitutional Boundries placed on the Congress by the constitution its that simple.

          27. pappadave says

            Wrong. They are merely warning Iran that whatever “agreement” Obama makes with them can, and will, be repudiated when he leaves office–if, as Obama has SAID he would do–the President refuses to submit the agreement for Congressional approval. Obama has a history–at least so far this Congressional term–of bypassing Congress on a whole plethora of issues…amnesty for illegals, for just one example. He has announced his intention of carving out an “agreement” with Iran that would GIVE Iran the nuclear weapon they so desire, which would put the entire Middle East under their thumb…not to mention endanger the U.S. Don’t forget that Iran STILL insists on destroying both Israel and the U.S. given the opportunity. Obama is handing them that opportunity on a silver platter. He’s either insane or the worst traitor this country has ever elected to public office.

          28. Rick Rogers says

            Pappadave That was their attempt to get themselves a seat at the table or to blow up the negotiations complete. Or do you think it was just blind chance that this Letter appeared the same week the Leader of a foreign country spoke before Congress? That letter was a violation of the Consittion that says the President is responsible for Foreign policy and that only HE speaks to other countries as the voice of the united states in International Treaties and agreements. The Senate has their say when they are presented with an agreement they don’t have the right to dictate that agreement. That is why your hearing the Treason Charge because the violated the Logan Act.

          29. JIMBO says

            Show me proof that this letter violated the Logan act. Did you read the contents of this letter signed by 47 representatives of this country? Show me one word that even implies treason? I would be happy to challenge your response.

          30. Rick Rogers says

            The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799 (1799-01-30)) is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government’s position.[2] The Act was passed following George Logan’s unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

            Where Senators are concerned they are not Representatives of this country they are Representatives of the State they were elected from. They have no say in the construction of foreign Policy. They Letter was an attempt to undermine the negotiations that the president was involved with his authorized representative the Secretary of State.

            As for the treason part.. ” What these two constitutional provisions mean is that we will consider any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Obama and Ayatollah Khamenei. The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.”

            So tell me how that does not mean.. Any agreement you make with his president is not going to be valid with the next one? If your the Iranian President fighting the hard liners in your own country how do you not say “why Bother” THATS UNDERMINING. And that is Treason. want more how about a Supreme Court Ruling..

            Sutherland wrote in his opinion of the Court:

            The [“powers of the federal government in respect of foreign or external
            affairs and those in respect of domestic or internal affairs”] are
            different, both in respect of their origin and their nature. The broad
            statement that the federal government can exercise no powers except those
            specifically enumerated in the Constitution, and such implied powers as are
            necessary and proper to carry into effect the enumerated powers, is
            categorically true only in respect of our internal affairs.

            And he added:

            It is important to bear in mind that we are here dealing not alone with an
            authority vested in the President by an exertion of legislative power, but with
            such an authority plus the very delicate, plenary and exclusive power of the President as the sole organ of the federal
            government in the field of international relations–a power which does
            not require as a basis for its exercise an act of Congress, but which, of
            course, like every other governmental power, must be exercised in subordination
            to the applicable provisions of the Constitution.

          31. Mel Khan says

            papadave, Israel has no choice but to stop the completion of the neucular bomb which is near completion ,iran is enriching uranium in 13 different locations one is underground and has already vowed to make Israel a hole in the ground- so the survival of the entire Israel nation depends on the bomb being stopped–so israer has only one choice– with Gods help they must destroy all 13 sites. NOW.

          32. Mel Khan says


          33. Rick Rogers says

            Actually those with a brain and the Talent to read know no such thing.. He is just as much an American Citizen as Ted Cruz is. In fact if anything he has more of a claim because TED Cruz was not even born in the US but was born in Canada.

          34. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry the person that made that Hole in the ground Claim is no longer the Iranian President.. Why don’t you just declare That Germany is still and Enemy because they once Threated to conquer the United States.

          35. Rick Rogers says

            Acutally PappaDave the “Threat” of Destroying Israel was issued by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has been out of power for about 3 years now. And who has no control and no power in Iran any longer.

          36. pappadave says

            …and has been repeated almost annually by the current Ayatollah…along with the threat to destroy US–most recently just last February.

          37. Croco Dile says

            “…..yes they have the authority….”

            The belief in “authority”, which includes all belief in “government”, is irrational and selfcontradictory; it is contrary to civilization and morality, and constitutes the most dangerous, destructive superstition that has ever existed. Rather than being a force for order and justice, the belief in “authority” is the arch-enemy of humanity.

            by Larken Rose 2011


          38. Mel Khan says

            I will reply to the federal law violated. Obama has a purchased birth certificate from Hawaii that cost him $22 million dollars and I American citizens life–the phony underwent 36 computer generated changes and then was immediately sealed — you act powerful—so get that sealed phony released and then share it with the u s a and then lets talk again— hoping to hear from you soon and so are all the citizens of the u. s. a,

          39. docwilly says

            youneed to read it.That is if you can read!

          40. Rick Rogers says

            I can Read very will but it appears the 47 CAN”T

            Text of the Logan Act[edit]

            § 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

            Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

            This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

          41. docwilly says

            just wondering. were you born an idiot or do you have to work at it. no reply  necessary-same result KEITH

          42. Rick Rogers says

            all of your insults just proves I am doing something Right. Because Inbreds are not capable of cognitive Thought and they responsed with Insults.. Thank you for proving my point

          43. JIMBO says

            Rick. This is not about name calling, it is about your argent attitude. I am still waiting for an answer to my question.

          44. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry what question.. I have not been on since Friday and don’t see any question.

          45. MAHB001 says

            Liberal lobotomies are performed for free. Mr. Rogers has probably had three of them.

          46. docwilly says

            Thanks you. That explains it perfectly

          47. OldPatriot32 says

            Gotcha: “any citizen” (singular), not a group of 47 duly elected Senators; get the difference?
            The Senate can rescind or negate any Executive action with a 2/3 majority vote.This statement sent to Iran was never brought to the Senate floor for a vote. However the group of 47 were within their rights to send a message to Iran, IMHO

          48. Rick Rogers says

            United States v. Curtiss-Wright Justice George Sutherland, who writes the majority opinion, notes the distinctions between foreign and internal affairs, arguing that because “the president alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation,” Congress may provide the president with a special degree of discretion in external matters which would not be afforded domestically.
            Those 47 did not write as Private Citizens they wrote as Senators of the United states. AND PUT it on SENATE LETTER HEAD. They have no Right to stick their noses in ongoing negotiations They don’t have the right to use their official position to try and undermine a sitting president on Foreign affairs. Foreign affairs belongs to the Executive Branch. That’s the constitution not an opinion.

          49. JIMBO says

            I am still waiting for your response to my question!

          50. pappadave says

            If this were true, then BOTH Hanoi Jane AND John Kerry would have been tried and convicted. They were both on FILM doing this very thing. No. Ronald Reagan proved that the so-called Bolen Amendment–from which the Logan Act stems–was and is unconstitutional and violates the very 1ST AMENDMENT to the U.S. Constitution.

          51. Rick Rogers says

            Pappadave I be honest and say I don’t get the John Kerry Reference.. The Jane Fonda will she was there as a private Citizen and while a lot of people did not like what she said as a private citizen she had the right to say it.. No Ronald Reagan did not have the authority to prove it was Unconstitutional that’s option belongs to the Supreme Court only . The Supreme Court rules in United States v. Curtiss-Wright 1936 Justice George Sutherland, who writes the majority opinion, notes the distinctions between foreign and internal affairs, arguing that because “the president alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation,” Congress may provide the president with a special degree of discretion in external matters which would not be afforded domestically. .The jest of if is congress does not have a say in the actually Negotiation and if The president presents it as a Treaty then they have their turn to Advise and Consent. By writing that letter they were intentional Undermining the President as he tries to work out an agreement. If this had been the case during the Bush years Conservatives would have been on the National Mall in front of the Captiol building Gallows to hang them from.

          52. MAHB001 says

            Rick is a dick 🙂 and a Soros paid troll.
            Your post is an instant classic.

          53. Rick Rogers says

            Damn I thought you when down when I flushed the toilet the other day. Must be because such a large piece of crap as you clogs up the pipes.

          54. Rick Rogers says

            John Driggers is Irene does exactly what those 47 traitors do and thinks it was a good idea to stick their nose in to ungoing talks with a unfriendly country then damn well Right she is. ITs been laid out here more then once why those 47 broke Federal Law and need to answer for it so I am not going to go over it again. Some of the people on this website remember me of Mason Family members. Only thing missing is the swastika carved on their Foreheads.

        2. mac12sam12 says

          The most failed president in US history and still getting a tingle up your leg? HA!! “This was the moment…when the rise in the oceans began to slow…and the earth began to heal.” BO HA!

          1. Rick Rogers says

            Yes your right Bush was the most Failed President in US history.. I am surprised to see you admin it. But your wrong about the Rise in the oceans its not going to slow anytime soon.

          2. pappadave says

            Yet your hero PROMISED that if we elected him, the oceans would cease to rise. Yet ANOTHER lie from this moron?

          3. Rick Rogers says

            Actually Pappadave he said he would undertake measures to Stop the trend of Climate Change caused by the release of Carbon. But tell me which you prefer to believe 99% of the Scientist that study Climatology or one idle brain Senator that knows how to make a snowball. the present concentration of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere is the highest in the past 800,000 years. and likely the highest in the past 20 million years. Despite its relatively small concentration, CO2 is a potent greenhouse gas and plays a vital role in regulating Earth’s surface temperature through radiative forcing and the greenhouse effect . That Greenhouse means we have bigger storms Hotter Summers Extreme Temperature changes and Yes it means more Winter storms because The heat puts more moisture in the air and when it hits the lower Temperature in the upper atmosphere that means Snow. Like I said I respect your ability to talk about things like an adult. Your a huge step over a lot of the people that are on this website .

          4. OldPatriot32 says

            99%? I think not; there’s a large number of climatologists who say Earth’s climate is CYCLICAL, going back eons into the past. Core samples of the ground verify this. “Global warming” is a red herring designed to enrich Al Gore and alternate energy advocates, who invest millions in wind & solar industries and industries devoted to “cleaning the air.” How to deal with massive amounts of trash & associated pollution is a separate issue.

          5. Rick Rogers says

            Acutally No there is not a large Group.. there is a very small group.. 1% and most of those 1% have jobs with companies that Don’t like the idea of Global Warming. But like it or not. It exisit. You can’t dump as much Carbon into the air as man has do in the last 200 years and not expect to see a change. There is more carbon in the air now then has been there in RECORDED HISTORY.

          6. JIMBO says

            The more I read your responses, the more I am convened that all you know about anything is what you see on television or is broadcast by the liberal media.

          7. Rick Rogers says

            Jimbo bud only tv news I watch is Fox news just so I can “know the Enemy” have never seen any MSNBC show of any sort. I get local News from the local Paper and National News from AP news website.

          8. mac12sam12 says

            Bush was much better than Obama until 2006 when the democrats took both houses of congress. 2006 was also the last year that the democrats worked with the republicans, hence our current foreign policy disasters and economic disasters as well.

          9. Rick Rogers says

            Mac12sam12 Please go seek help. there are very good 12 step programs that can help you with this Addiction problem you clearly have. The First step is admitting you have a problem.

          10. mac12sam12 says

            Snarky, when did things go downhill? Banks crashing and the housing bubble? Put on your thinking cap, Skippy!!

          11. mac12sam12 says

            Bush was blocked by both houses when he tried to stop the banks and the democrat’s push for the poor to have mortgages. Barney Frank said the bans were doing fine and the poor should be able to own houses too. You can thank Frank and Dodd for it. Obama by far is the worst president in history. He’s doubled the debt, more than doubled the poverty rate and we have the lowest workforce participation rate since 1978 because of bankrupted businesses that are over regulated. Even Joe Biden has said the middle class has been taking a beating the past six years.

          12. Rick Rogers says

            wow.. did not know Obama was president in 1978.. Sorry facts are facts they are urban myths.. THAT DEBT Your talking about was because of trying to dig out of the hole that 8 years before 2008 we were put in with Huge Tax cuts. Bush took a budget Surplus and turned it into a deficit and there is nothing that you can say that will change that fact.

          13. mac12sam12 says

            In 1978 Carter’s bill, the Community Reinvestment Act was implemented, that was the beginning of housing for the poor. Forbes magazine predicted the banks would crash years ago. The lowest workforce participation rate since 1978, maybe because of the 300,000+ a week applying for unemployment.

          14. Mark Clemens says

            If the ice caps melt, the water levels will redid (go down) fill a glass up with Ice and Water, mark the spot. Let the Ice melt. The volume of water will be less in the glass. It works in nature the same way………
            Please don’t take my word, just do it. See what happens.

          15. Rick Rogers says

            I know the experiment and your right except for one thing. That supposing that all the ice that melts is already in the OCEAN. But that’s not the case. The Majority of the North polar cap ice has disappeared. The Ice in Greenland is melting and that Volume is being added as it melts to the sea. They Ice in Antarctica stretches covers just about 5.4 million sq miles.The estimates are that Antarctica hold any where from 70% to 90% of the worlds Ice. And if that melts the volume will increase as it flows to the oceans. That is not fantasy or made up You get sea level Rises when you add to the Volume of the ocean. so take that experiment you talked about and then hold an ice cube above the class your taking about after the ice you put in before melts.. The drop that ICE cube in the glass and watch it Rise. but Mark Clemens thank you for your thoughts in the matter.

          16. Mark Clemens says

            The mass of water you call OCEAN, does not hold the water’s volume, the world holds the volume of all matter on/in the planet. As the glass held the matter you put into it. Liquids take up less space than solids, that is why your water level rose when Ice (a solid) was added. Of course gases take up less space than any matter we know of. Look at your Periodic Chart. Gasses are listed first……
            If global warming is real, we will run out of water and die of dehydration. Not drown.
            Thank you for not being rude to me!

          17. Rick Rogers says

            Mark Clemens.. I a sorry and I mean no disrespect but your comments above are a bit off… one.. That glass of water you were talking about.. When you drop and Ice cube in it does the water level Rise? Yes it does.. When that ice melts does the water leave go down.. No because the Ice is displacing the water in the glass and causing it to rise. When that Ice melts the displacement is continued because of the ice turns to water. But the Northern and Southern poles are showing melting ice. About two years ago the “NORTHWEST Passage all the early Explorers were looking for became ICE free for the first time in recorded History.

          18. Mark Clemens says

            ……..This is like 4th grade science.
            When you add the ice, the water level rises for two reasons. Ice is solid water, you added more water volume. Second, solids take up more space than liquids. This is an undisputed fact. When the solid water (ice) liquefied it took up less space.
            Just wondering, who told you different?
            Mrs. Walters my fourth grade teacher showed me, the explained why to the class……..

          19. Mark Clemens says

            ……Oh yea,
            Also some ships got stuck on the Antarctic Ice pack this and last year.

          20. pappadave says

            Don’t you read ANYTHING besides far-left nonsense? The northern polar ice cap is HUGE this year and extends further south than it has in decades! Wake up and smell the coffee.

          21. Rick Rogers says

            Hmmm Don’t think I ever heard Scientific American called Far Left Nonsense before. oh well first time for everything. Sort of like trying to prove there is no global warming by bring a snow ball on the floor of the Senate in the middle of Winter. Sorry Pappadave but I will stick with the people that do this for a living vers those that are paid by big oil to say there is no such thing. Oh and one other thing. The claim you made about Polar ice cap..Sorry its just not accurate.. Here is the link and its dated March 15, 2015 http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/arctic-sea-ice-dwindles-toward-record-winter-low/.. I take Scientific America over the Congressional Record any day of the week.

          22. pappadave says

            Sorry, but I prefer to look at ACTUAL satellite photos of the polar icecap rather than some “chart” generated by some global warmist.

          23. Rick Rogers says

            Pappadave.. You do realize that Snow on the ground and Ice look the same in Satellite photos.. And there is a big difference from snow on the ground and Ice Caps. If we used your Satellite photos last week I would say that BOSTON is in the middle of a new Ice Age.. (and the poor people having to live thru it might agree 🙂 ).. The people that made that claim were not using Charts for this. .They were up there laying eyeballs on it and measuring it. The Charts were their Findings not what they based the observations on.

          24. Carl Showalter says


          25. Rick Rogers says

            I wanted to Respond but not sure what your point was there Carl Showalter.. Could you explain it please.

        3. docwilly says

          THE ONLY TRAITOR IS your treasonous pretend ,incompetent president

        4. Arizona Don says

          Irene has surrendered. Real American will not surrender!

          Most of the people who talk like that are passivists and have never stood on their own two feet. Most of us don’t look for handouts and support ourselves those are the true Americans and those are the ones who will not surrender to this obama transformation being pushed down our throats right now.

          I applaud everyone who has used considerable restraint over the past few years hope we can ride this out and survive whole. If pushed to the extreme however, and it does appear we may be, it may be necessary to respond in another way. Time will tell.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            Arizona Don.. It been proven most Americans that were in a bind during the Bush economic Meltdown don’t want a hand out either. You go up to most of them and ask if they would rather have Snap Benefits or A Job that pays the bills they will say the job.. I seem to have more faith in the work ethic of Americans then Those that spread the myths about welfare queens or Drugged up abusers of the system. Three states tried Drug testing people on assistance and in all of those states it came back less the 1% had positive test. So they spent a lot of money on testing for no return.. We except in Florida where Rick Scott owns the biggest Testing lab and the state give his company the Testing contract. I am pretty sure he saw a return. Simple statement.. The Republican Party Can’t sell the public their platform unless they have someone to afraid of and someone to blame for it. I am tired of the extremes on both sides and want at return to the middle. There are places for Government program that help and there are places for cuts in government Programs. But I would prefer to error on the side of helping people then not. Not helping people and making sure they have a chance has pretty much had a part in every revolution in modern Times. I am tired or corporate welfare that gives away Hundreds of billions of Dollars while Real welfare for people gives away a fraction of that.

          2. Arizona Don says

            Freeloaders are not the American way. Freeloaders have increased under the current administration many fold because of obama’s (socialistic) share the wealth strategy. Also the government has increased in size which is necessary in a socialistic society. However, large government begets corruption the larger the government the more the corruption. We are witnessing that fact first hand today in the US. Our government is totally corrupt right now. No one seems to be trustworthy, truthful or dependable. A sad state of affairs at best, for a once great nation like the United States of America. If we are to not only survive but flourish as we once did we may have to have changes in both political parties (Republicans and Democrats) not just one. With all the things happening today in the world some caused directly or indirectly by the American president it is easy to see why some citizens have given up.

            It is certain there was a, as you call it, an economic melt down in about 2008. There is no getting around that. The cause of which has not now and may never be “totally” discovered. It may also have been multifaceted. However, we have had financial problems before and recovered in a relative short time period. I do blame Bush for at least the first bail out which should never have taken place. The second was just a continuation of a bad idea. Which also did no good whatsoever. For many reasons which I will not get into now. To big to fail is never a reason or excuse under the free enterprise system to use taxpayer money to “bailout” independent companies or businesses that have failed due to actions of their own making.

            Under the current administration there has been no recovery at least that has been generated or promoted by government including bailouts. In fact all the new regulation and laws put forth by the current administration has resulted in no viable recovery whatsoever. The current administration has prevented recovery not caused it.

          3. Rick Rogers says

            Ok except for the Situmulus package and the Auto Bail out can you refresh my memory what other plan he was able to get thru congress. he has been in office a little less then 7 years and the first year of his term the SENATE Majority Leader stood in front of cameras and said their number one Priority was to make sure he was a one term President.. NOT JOBS. Not the Economy, Not Tax Reform, or Campaign but A one Term President. .That sounds like a great way get anything done don’t you think. As for the 2nd Bail out of the Auto Industry you mention. It was not just the Car Manufacturers it was the parts suppliers, the Tire Manufacturers and all the smaller industries that would have been in trouble with that bailout. So I don’t really have a problem with that because it saved peoples jobs.. Keep them getting a paycheck instead of an unemployment check. There has only been one other time the countries Economy took such a hit and that was during the Time of the Great Depression. A time that a liberal president with Liberal Ideas rolled up his sleeves and said lets fix this. His major program is still with us today and it has keep millions of elderly out of poverty. Those aren’ t Freeloaders those are people that paid into a system and not want their share back that they paid in to.

        5. Btty says

          How Rick? Do explain yourself.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            BTTY not sure what your asking.. How what?

      2. MAHB001 says

        If I could upvote your comment a thousand times I would.
        0bama is an Alinsky Radical, he plans on destroying Capitalism and instilling his version of socialism, no make that communism.
        The troll is also an alinsky radical.

        1. pmbalele says

          I told you TPs and Repubs are stupid, racist and bigot. They have been
          hurting inside their bodies because Blacks are in the WH. They thought the WH
          was for Whites. That is why they are behaving like 3rd countries -trying to
          overthrow President Obama. Look they invited Netanyahu to preach them how
          to live and think. Then they sabotaged Iran Nuke talks. Further for over 6
          years they have been sabotaging the economy of this country so that they can
          blame on Obama, a racial minority. These TPs and Repubs were raised to believe
          that Blacks were intellectually inferior to them as Whites. Too late now. Blacks are here to live, find jobs and happiness.

          1. Chuck says

            pmbalele…You’ve been watching that DVD that’s playing inside your head for too long. Time to shut it off and get out and look at the real world.

          2. Jean Witte says

            Chuck!! You are so right! It is heart breaking to see so much ambiguity. sure there some people are so prejudiced about one thing or another, but they are not the ones that represent America as a whole. I would venture to say I do not have a racist bone I my body, because we are all God’s creations, some are just messed up, but It is depressing to have the entire country tossed in the batch of true racist. Sure there are some, but let’s get over the feeling that it is the majority. Look at the advancement of the black people and other minorities in recent years. And balance that against the Al Sharpton’s and Jesse Jackson’s whose sole purpose in life is to keep the black people suppressed, without letting them know it!!

          3. JIMBO says

            I can appreciate your comment however, there are more of them since Obama was elected to office. The Al Sharp-tons are marching to the tune of the Obama agenda. The one point you may have missed is that: it is not how many racist are out there, the important thing to remember is who are they. Obama is surrounded by them. He in fact has created many of them.

          4. Arizona Don says

            You are without a doubt the most racist person I have ever read a comment from. Perhaps also the most misguided. I am white I had nothing against blacks before obama that means all blacks. I now have a different outlook on both life and them. Oh I know many are fine upstanding people (still) but you see I find through polls of obama supporters about 80% yes eighty percent of you people are very racist. Because be is racist, bigoted and ignorant for it. And you support that!

            You support obama for two reasons the first one is because he is black. That is the one that makes you extreme racist. You see it is just as racist to vote for someone because of color as it is to NOT vote for someone because of color. The other is because he believes and practices wealth redistribution in other words socialism. That’s the one that makes you not a good American. Socialism does not work it always leads to communism and the world knows communism never works, never has never will. Americans support themselves freeloaders look for the handouts. Socialism begets large government and large government is always corrupt the larger the more corrupt. The current administration is extremely corrupt. If unchecked that and the debt will destroy the United States of America. By supporting obama’s actions you support Americas destruction. Have a nice day.

          5. Btty says

            OMG! You nailed it! Nice job. Your post is my feelings exactly! This SOB in the WH is a usurper, destroyer of our country and a divider. He has set race relations back years. May this SOB rot in hell with his creator Satan! Thank God for every senator that had the balks to do the right thing and send the letter. It’s good to know we still have some that love this country over themselves.

          6. docwilly says

            nailed it

          7. Rick Rogers says

            hmm and see I thought it was all the White cops that were shooting unarmed Blacks and the States trying to Limit minority Voters with Voter Id laws that were setting things back.

          8. Btty says

            Well you thought wrong! How’s that for a swift kick in the azz? You haven’t lived long enough to have an opinion worth listening to. I can see your the product of indoctrination by commie professors. Your not smart enough to realize you were screwed by a failing school system. Tell you what. When you turn 65 years old then maybe we can talk again and see if you feel the same way. I raised four sons that are all graduates of top Universities. Having said that they were all home schooled. I would never have handed my son’s over to a public school system for indoctrination. All of my son’s are capable of thinking for themselves. If I were you I would start questioning what you were taught. I see where you think other countries are so much better than my country on education and socialist type programs. So what the hell are you doing in the US? Go ahead and move, you won’t be missed.

          9. Rick Rogers says

            You know I use my name and picture for anyone that wants to look me up on facebook and find out about me. I don’t know how old your are Btty and don’t really care but I celebrated my 57th Birthday last week I have lived been alive for 11 US Presidents and all of the space Program and Moon Landings. I worked the first 10 Launches of the Space Shuttle as part of the Air Force Commucations team So I have seen and heard and Learned a lot in those 57 years. As to the failing school system if all the times the State GOP’s have tried to cut the education budget is there any wonder we are having a hard time keeping our ranking in education on an international Level. I give you one example that stood out about two weeks ago.. Scott walker proposed a huge cut the University of Wisconsin including cutting their entire alternative energy program. I don’t have to tell you who Scott Walkers biggest donors are do I.. Let me help last name is spelled K.O.C.H and they are real big in fossil Fuels not alternative Energy.

          10. Btty says

            Okay Rick your either very well preserved or your using a younger pic of yourself. I’ll accept either. I’m sorry but I back Scott Walker on education. Pouring more money into education won’t make it better. One thing that will make it better is allowing parents a choice with their tax dollars. If they don’t like a school or want private school then they should be allowed to choose. We shouldn’t be forced into supporting a school that fails our children. Get rid of tenure. Let professors know that if they want to keep their jobs they better teach without bias. Get rid of Common Core. That’s just for starters.
            I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your time in the service. Alternative energy has been a dismal failure before Scott’s proposal. Why do you liberals always find a way to attack the Koch brothers? Have you any idea the good they do? The jobs they provide and the generous donations they make to charities? Why is it that liberals attack those who are successful? Frankly these libs are the ones enslaving Americans with give away programs. Especially blacks and minorities.
            They complain about being slaves many, many years ago but Rick, they are slaves today to the very government they vote for. Why? Because they will always vote for the party that has enslaved them to freebies.
            Off my soapbox for now. I will look you up on Facebook. Good luck.

          11. Rick Rogers says

            Picture was taken by Professional for the Company website I was working for. First time and LAST time I will ever agree to make up for a picture.

            I will be honest with you. Scott Walker has been shooting himself in the foot on a pretty regular basis. I can bet you all the money in Vegas That the Democrats would LOVE for him to be the 2016 Presidential nominee. Over half of the 14.6 million union members in the U.S. lived in just seven states (California, 2.5 million; New York, 2.0 million; Illinois, 0.8 million; Pennsylvania,
            0.7 million; and Michigan, New Jersey, and Ohio, 0.6 million each), Notice those Swing States in that List. Scott Walker has not made in friends or allies in Unions with the comments he has made.
            There is one other thing that you did not mention and I was not sure If I said it before so sorry if I am repeating myself. One of the Programs Walker Cut was the Alternative Energy study program that was established with a large Federal Grant. Some people don’t like the idea of Energy research into something that is not from a Fossil Fuel. They are threated by it and want to kill any program that would cut into their Market Share. So He kills this program because he wants to make the people that write his Donation Checks Happy. So they won’t have to work about a program that could cut into their profits. This cut a Payback Cut to Fossil Fuel Producers. (I know I don’t have to name names here)

            I also don’t understand all the misinformation about Common Core. The idea behind it was to have a standard that might someone that Gets a high school diploma in say Ohio has the same level of education as some that gets a High School diploma in say Texas. One of the biggest problems College report is that they are having to enroll their Students in high school level Courses as Freshmen. They were not taught what they need to know as a base for going on to college. It was not about taking control it was about Setting National Standards plane and simple. The problem is that a lot of people don’t like the fact that some of the standards in Science and History were things they did not want their Kids to learn. Sorry about that but Colleges should not be restricted by what some parent wants their Colleges to teach. The colleges job is to educate young adults in the field they want to study. Part of that Education is to present Different points of view and to try and teach not only the knowledge but how to THINK and Reason so they can make their own Decisions.

          12. lovinspoonful says

            More of your screwed up history. Go home.

          13. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry not a chance having to much fun here.

          14. lovinspoonful says

            Perhaps by the time he is 65 his brain will have grown enough for him to be somewhat intelligent. If he things other countries are better, then that is where he needs to go. We will help you pack and pay your fare to leave the USA.

          15. Lougjr1 says

            So Btty, you actually see Obama as I do. I believe him to be the Satanic anti Christ bringing Islam illegally into the U.S. to flood the country introducing Shariah Islamic law in order to take it over. I’m convinced Obama is a Muslim ever since he was brought up in the Muslim faith as a child. Obama is not a part of we the [people of America. He follows Islamic law which allows all Muslims to fit in with we infidels to convince us that they are our best friends, until the word is given to destroy us all. The sooner the people get the picture , the better off we will be anymore blood flows in America like it is in the rest of the world !

          16. Btty says

            Exactly! But I think it will get a lot worse before it gets better. We haven’t seen anything yet. If your not armed get armed and learn to reload. A lot of Americans don’t see it but it’s because they are hoping it won’t get worse rather than facing the facts and admitting to themselves that yes it will get worse. We have terrorist training camps in our own country. All over American and they are waiting for the right time to attack us. I believe the Demwits and the Republicans not only know about it but are helping them by turning their backs on what really needs to be done. They should go in with the military and break every camp up and deport all these -astards! If I had my way I would kill them but alas we all know Americans don’t have the guts that would take. Our military would but we don’t have politicians who would send our military in without tying their hands behind their backs. We could win every war we’ve been in if not for the politicians. Our military is in it to win it and our politicians and POS in the WH should stay out of it. Leave war to those who know how to win it.

          17. pmbalele says

            Now look the mouse came out its roost: You called us “you people” which reminds of Archie Bunker in All the Family. That is exactly what you people call us behind the scene.

          18. Arizona Don says

            So you accuse me of using the term “you people” do I not see it within your statement as well? I will not repeat myself but my reply to you is the same as before. Have a nice day.

          19. pmbalele says

            I played it back to you. You called us Blacks as “You people.” Got it?

          20. Arizona Don says

            Look I’m not going to waste my time on you regardless of color. If you support a man that is out to fundamentally transform this once great nation into a socialistic communist nation I do not and will not ever come around to your way of thinking. Go whine somewhere where you will get the sympathy your looking for. Like so many other blacks do. If your accusation of me saying “you people” is offensive to you that is your fault not mine. I had not intention of insulting you because of ethnic group, color or birth place. If you look for things to whine about you will no doubt find them. If you look for other things favorable you will find them as well! This conversation is over. Have a good life!

          21. pmbalele says

            You started it. I did not. I believe you got that line from Netanyahu who called people in Congress “you people.” The same Netanyahu who preached Congress is the same now under investigation in his own country for corruption. He may lose election there. Calm down. Look at President Obama as Savior of this great Country.

          22. herb portere says

            You mean this ONCE great country…Barak Hussein OBOWEL went into the White House and turned it into an OUT HOUSE!!!!!

          23. pmbalele says

            That is what I hear from brain-washed TPs and Repubs. They cannot see that Reagan and the Bushes let this country down. It was a matter of time for the economic melt-down. Remember what happened in 2008 October. The government and bands were penniless. Repubs and TPs had shipped their money to Switzerland leaving people here on welfare. Thanks God we elected and re-elected President Obama.

          24. Rick Rogers says

            Pmbalele thank you for say thing this.. As much as these people hate President Obama I hated Reagan for his Corrupt Administration. Last time I check he still holds the record for most members of and aministration convicted of a crime. Hell he even beat Nixon’s Record.

          25. pmbalele says

            You made my day. We have these TPs and Repubs in Congress doing nothing other than dating office women.

          26. Rick Rogers says

            Lets get one thing Straight Arizona Don. IT does not always Lead to Communism. It leads to Communism when you have a elite group that takes control of the power of government for their own Purposes to enrich their Friends and Supporters. Capitalism is not a form of government its an economic system and it can be abused just as much as any other from.. The last 35 years should prove that to you. The United States has had basic Socialist type program in place for years and chances are you have taken part in them and have Benefited from them. The Public School system is a socialist Program. SOCIAL security also is one. There are countries like Denmark, Norway, England have supported they citizens with Socialist Type Programs in their past and none of them are Communist. When the United States was founded it was called the Great Experiment but the Experiment was in form of government not an Economic system. I always hear GOP members talking about the Value of work.. But then they stand up for those that do the Lest amount of work and were handed their Wealth and position based on who their parents were. Do you honestly think Rand Paul would be in the Senate if his Father was not who he is? Or Either BUSH? I am actually more worried about Capitalism turning into an Oligarchy then anything else as we are well on that path now if not already in the first stages. and then on the extreme there is the worry about it becoming a Theocracy -with the constant demands what we follow Gods law.. Last time I checked there were quite a few People that did not agree on who was God is but also there are those that question the concept. There is this concept called the Greater good. Where turning out educated children is in the Greater good of the Country. Were making sure no one goes hunger in a country that could wipe out hunger inside its own borders, Where anyone that is sick or injured can see a doctor and not have to worry that is it going to cost him everything he has spent his Life working for. A lot of people slammed The Presidents Idea about extending tuition Free college to anyone that maintained a certain grade average. Tuition Free education is offered in the following Countries Argentina, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Norway, Scotland, Turkey, Brazil, Netherlands, Germany, China Just offered English speaking students free tuition in Hong Kong. We need to stop allowing people to Demonize Education and always letting it be the first thing cut of the spending cuts chopping block. Its bad enough we have given up the lead and a lot of areas we don’t need to fall any farther down the list for countries that turn out Doctors, Engineers, Physicist, Chemist, Computer engineers and Programmers.

          27. OldPatriot32 says

            Your post is liberal rot/garbage/brainwashed crap. Obozo and his leftist creeps like Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, Pelosi & Reid have done more to fan the flames of racism in the last 7 years than all the Republicans in the US for the past 50 years. I suggest you look somewhere for a brain transplant, yours is defective. Sheesh!

          28. docwilly says

            yes sir-you got it

          29. MAHB001 says

            Only a person blinded by their ideology would think the way you do.

          30. JIMBO says

            No problem telling what kind of patriot you are. I can only feel pity for your stupidity. You need to get your facts straight and educate yourself on what is happening to this once great country and all because of the of people like you.

          31. BH says

            I don’t know why you are such a pitiful racist. You, sir (or ma’am), are the one that looks at people and sees the color of their skin, not conservatives. But even deeper, you look at conservative blacks as being deserters to the cause of blacks. Look at Alan West, or Clarence Thomas and tell me you don’t despise them. Our ire is toward Obama’s ideas and policies and actions, not because he identifies with the half of his DNA that came from the person that deserted him instead of the half that raised him.

          32. daledor says

            You are acting like an ignorant racist bigot! I question what the Repubs are doing but the Pres is inciting riiots here and backing promoting Iranian terrorism – those missiles will be aimed at Israel and us dummy – they stated their hate of both many times and stated these are their targets and enemies (Israel and the US). I call him the TERRORIST IN CHIEF – I could care less if he is black, white, pink, or polkadot. A traitor who defies our Constitution and all laws of the land while making himself the Dictator is not America’s friend but an enemy pushing the New World Order agenda on us and the world. When Pres Obama does right, I applaud it. When he acts like either a spoiled kid that has to have his way or else or as an enemy of my country I highly disdain those actions. The Bush’s, Clinton’s, and Obama are the biggest New World Order traitors America has ever known. As FDR said in his latter and wiser days warning of his peers he had worked with, “They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers. . . call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order.”

          33. Carl Showalter says

            FIND JOBS?? HA

          34. RMCSRET says

            pmbale if Conservative are Racist today what would you call the democrat
            who actually did the same thing during the Reagan Administration (John Kerry and
            others), and during the Bush Administration (Nancy Pelosi and others), yes these
            folks also sent letters and actually visited after the President demanded that
            they not do what they were doing. OH I FORGET PEOPLE WHO SEE
            RACISM also are BLIND TO FACTS RIGHT?

          35. molly kennedy says

            It is a shame that our 1st black president is not a person to be looked up to, if only he was half the man Nelson Mendello (sp) was. It has been my observation that whenever a liberal has nothing with which to argue their point, they all revert to you are “a racist”. I am an independent and have not voted for anyone in the last several elections, just against. If my vote could have gotten Ralph Nader elected, he would have been president.

          36. Daniel Matuska says

            Have you studied hard to reach your level of understanding?

          37. pmbalele says

            That is what you think. Good for you.

          38. lovinspoonful says

            Sorry, but you have the wrong party suffering due to a black man in the White Hose. It is the democrats who hate black people. they formed the modern KKK when the republicans assisted Johnson in passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You surely do enjoy making up your own history, don’t you? too bas there is nothing to it. The democrats and leftists were raised to join the KKK which killed blacks, stupid. Yoyu are as dumb ads mud.

      3. docwilly says


        1. Mark Clemens says

          I say after Obama’s term is up, the Secret Service should arrest him on the spot……
          What am I thinking??? The Secret Service is to busy driving around DC DRUNK, and wrecking public vehicles……. Who do y’all think is going to pay for the car (Look in mirror)?
          Why were these Drunken Secret Service agents arrested? Damn where is MADD? The SS Agents could of killed a child!! If you or I would of solo crashed DRUNK we would of been arrested on the spot. I’m starting to see two different set of Standards here. Maybe Ferguson doesn’t have the only law enforcement agency that needs a good house cleaning, or maybe we should start repealing DUI Laws………….

          1. omega2 says


          2. JB Wright says

            NOW would be a damn good time. We do not want to wait giving Obama more time to destroy America as we know it.

          3. lovinspoonful says


          4. lovinspoonful says

            Think back on how the Secret Service has performed since Obama has been in the White House. You get the idea they don’t care much for him. I understand all help in the White House is very rudely and nastily treated by the Obamas. given the manner in which they treat dignitaries – foreign and domestic – employees must be treat4ed as slaves.

        2. Lougjr1 says

          And I might add, the whole damn administration filled with communists and Muslims, of which Obama is one . That may not be a fact, but that is what I think according to the way he is running and manipulating this government and it’s people !!!

          1. JB Wright says

            I concur!

          2. Rick Rogers says

            Heaven forbin any of you would let Facts get in your way.. That’s against the Party Platform of the GOP

          3. Btty says

            Ricky grow up and stop drinking the Kool ade

          4. Rick Rogers says

            Only Koolaide I have seen here is the stupid failed Theory of “trickle Down” Which has been on the Republicans Talking points since the Alzheimer’s Patient of the United States Ronald Reagan was in office.

          5. Btty says

            Your pathetic failure that’s occupying our WH now is so much better? He’s not good enough to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan azz!. I would take one Ronald to a thousand obozo’s any day. Name me 10 positive things your messiah has done on a positive note for America and her people? I’ll save you the scrambling around because you can’t.

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry BTTY just got your email notice about this post about 10 mintues ago.. My Inbox was set to show the most recent and your sent this like 20 hours ago.. SO Here goes..

            I am guessing a time line would be ok with you.

            01/21/09 Use of torture by CIA and military to interrogate prisoners prohibited.
            01/29/09 Pay discrimination based on gender, race, color, national origin, age and disability prohibited
            02/04/09 4 million more children insured under SCHIP in addition to the 6.6 million already covered
            02/17/09 $48.1 billion in investments for highway, bridge, high-speed rail & other transportation projects
            02/17/09 Tax credit of $400 per worker ($800 per couple) for middle income workers for 2009 & 2010 totaling $116 billion
            2010 real GDP increased by about 3.4% due to stimulus spending
            05/20/09 $42 million in special funding for the Securities and Exchange Commission to investigate securites fraud in financial institutions
            05/20/09 Mortgage lending businesses added to list of financial institutions subject to Federal criminal law in fraudulent lending practices
            05/22/09 Credit cardholders protected against arbitrary interest rate increases, hidden and excessive fees, and due date gimmicks
            05/22/09 Oversight and audit required of those major defense programs experiencing cost overruns to determine if the programs are essential and cost-effective
            05/22/09 Defense oversight council required to seek input from combat commanders in evaluating proposed weapons system capabilities and needs
            08/05/09 U.S. drone attack killed Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud in Pakistan
            08/29/09 Co-founder of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Tohir Yo‘ldosh killed by U.S. drone attacks
            09/14/09 Somalian Al-Qaeda leader Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan killed by U.S. raid
            12/08/09 Al-Qaeda Operational Commander Saleh al-Somali killed in U.S. drone attack
            12/17/09 Al-Qaeda Operational Commander Abdallah Sa’id killed in U.S. drone attack
            2009 Liquidation of General Motors and Chrysler avoided through government mandated restructuring plans and conditional investment and loan programs
            2010 FEB Militant commander Muhammad Haqqani killed by U.S. drone attacks
            02/24/10Al-Qaeda and Taliban-linked Fedayeen-i-Islam leader Qari Zafar killed in US Airstrike
            2010 MARAl-Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni killed by U.S. drone attack in Pakistan
            03/18/10 Tax credits to employers who keep new hires for 52 weeks to encourage retention of new hires
            03/18/10 Social Security payroll tax credits in 2010 for employers that hired people who have been unemployed for 60+ days
            03/23/10 People with a pre-existing condition cannot be denied health coverge by an insurance company starting in 2014
            03/23/10 Insurance companies must spend 80% of the money raised from consumers premiums on health care and quality improvement
            03/23/10 Women are no longer charged higher premiums because of their gender
            03/23/10 Young adults can stay on parent’s insurance plan up until age 26
            04/18/10Joint American and Iraqi operation killed Al-Qaeda leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi
            05/05/10 Housing and care options expanded for homeless veterans living in care shelters
            05/05/10 Care options expanded for veterans living in rural areas that lack the necessary VA medical facilities Caregivers & Veterans Health Services
            05/05/10 Counseling and care enhanced for military women victims of sexual trauma and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) Caregivers & Veterans Health Servi…Veterans & Women05/05/10Health care services improved and expanded for women veterans at Veterans care facilitiesCaregivers & Veterans Health Services
            05/05/10 Family caregivers of veterans granted eligibility to VA counseling and mental health services
            05/21/10 Al-Qaeda’s number three commander Sheik Saeed al-Masri killed in U.S. drone attack
            06/29/10 U.S. drone attack killed 7 known terrorists, most notable Al-Qaeda operative from Egypt Hawza al Jawfi
            07/22/10 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau established to promote fairness and transparency for mortgages, credit cards, and other consumer financial products
            07/22/10 Risk in the financial system reduced with new SEC Office of Credit Ratings (OCR) to monitor credit rating agencies for conflict of interests & inaccuracies
            09/27/10 $30 billion lending program created for community banks with incentives to increase small business lending

            10/14/10 Disabled veterans provided improved independent assisted living services, automobile adaptive equipment and allowances for automobile purchase

            12/17/10$111 billion in tax relief for workers by a reducing social security payroll tax from 6.2% to 4.2% for 2011

            05/02/11 US Forces Kill Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan

            08/22/11Al-Qaeda No. 2 Atiyah Abd al-Rahman Killed in Pakistan by CIA predator drone strike09/30/11$700 million annual funding for child protection, child abuse prevention, family support and adoption promotion through 2016
            09/14/13 Syria agrees to dismantle chemical weapons stockpile after deal reached between the Obama Administration and Russia

          7. lovinspoonful says

            Two things – Obama had nothing to do with killing bin Ladin. that was started due to the CIA under Bush. they had to pull Obama off the golf course. Another thing, Pelosi approved waterboarding as this was run by congress before anything was done. She witnessed it and approved it. Your facts are so screwed up, just as you are. Your facts are bogus.

          8. Rick Rogers says

            And incase that’s not enough for you about about this
            Dow Jones Average 1/20/2009 – 8,729.63 Latest Value 16,380.41 %97.84 percent increase
            S&P 500 1/20/2009 849.64 Lastest Value 1886.76 %122.07 percent increase

          9. lovinspoonful says

            You need to look in the mirror,R icky. then you will see stupid. Reagan’s plan worked and he did not have Alzheimer’s while in office and how dare you ridicule anyone with that illness. He is considered one of our best presidents and even Obama has compared himself to Ronald Reagan. You need to leave.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            No Lovispoonful.. His is considered one of the best every by Republicans. There was a story that the last time the Republican lost the house was because they ran out of things to name after Reagan. His Administration had more people Indicted then NIXON. When he took office The Federal Debt was 900 Billion.. when he left it was 2.1 TRILLION. And after his Successor Bush the First it was 3.2 Trillion. Boy you have to handed it to those Fiscal Conservatives they sure know how to change a Debt number. MOSTLY BY RAISING IT. I will Cut Bush sr some slack because he had the first gulf War to fight but after you hit a Trillion the Interest cost if going to increase the debt in large chucks no matter what you do. oh one other thing. . As to your outrage about my saying Reagan had Alzheimers in office.. Why don’t you aim it at the person that said it first.. His SON p://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/01/14/reagan-son-claims-dad-had-alzheimers-as-president

          11. lovinspoonful says

            You are wrong. It is the Party Platform of the democrats and that is why are no longer in the majority. Ort didn’t you understand what occurred on Nov,. 4, 2014? the republicans are doing a fine job for the people and they are fighting back and letting Obama know they are in charge.

          12. Rick Rogers says

            Lovinspoonful.. I saw what happen on Nov 4 2014 but do you really know what happen. Because when you look at the numbers you might not be so proud of what happen. 36.4 percent of eligible voters turned out in the Mid Terms. that means 63.6 percent stayed home. but we will get to that in a minute. OF that 36.4 percent that turned out the last report I saw said that the GOP took something around 51.9 percent of the vote. So what does that mean out of the 100 percent of people that are eligible to vote in this country? The Republicans Convinced 18.89 per of eligible voters they are right. Tell you what I will let you keep that 18.89 percent because you can set in stone that there will not be an 36.4 percent turn out in 2016 and that they will not keep control of the senate and if someone will finally getting around to point out that the Portion of Government that has a 9 percent Approval Rating is actually Controlled by the GOP then they will have something to say about Retiring John Boehner as Speaker of the House.. You Like History Lovingspoonful ?. I love it because you can look at results of past elections and see trends.. Here is one that no one can dispute. When there are LARGE voter turn outs the Majority (there is that work you like) of the time GOP candidates Don’t win.. There are about 17 million more Democrats then there are Republicans registered so Republicans have to hope they can get all the votes of Registered Republicans and Then Pick up more then Half of all Independent Voters just to pull even. oh and just one more Tidbit Every year when 18 year olds Register to vote they are doing so as Democrats at about a 2 to 1 clip over Republicans and have been doing so since 2000. The GOP Mandate only exist in the minds of GOP Politicians. They don’t have one and their Base is not increasing enough to maintain any short Term Victory. ITs not the Battle we want to win its the WAR.

          13. lovinspoonful says

            It is a fact.

      4. Hamilton says

        Based on what I’ve heard, Obama can be stopped. The question is whether there are reasons, various and sundry, and heretofore unknown to the average joe, for why he isn’t being stopped. That is the concern; however, I don’t share your pessimism.

    2. Kenny Coffman says

      Well-written, Hamilton! Not only is the content of your comment spot-on, but your command of the “King’s English” (especially — and obviously — in the grammatical context) is astounding! In a world where a very large percentage of the population doesn’t know the difference between a period and a comma or the different usage of words such as “their” and “they’re,” or “yours” and “your’s,” and so on, your comment truly stands out. You get the picture. Not that my writing is free from grammatical errors (I’m sure that I’ll hear about any in this comment!), but it is refreshing to read such a well-written comment. I totally agree with your analogy of the letter that congress HAD to write because our so-called president’s childish behavior. By the way, I was NOT referring to Obama when I mentioned the “King’s English.” Maybe I should!

      1. Hamilton says

        I appreciate your compliments and trust that my meaning was clear. Evidently, you think so. It’s what we all strive for when we sit down to express ourselves. Thank you.

      2. OldPatriot32 says

        Nice to know you’re so well-versed in English, spelling, and grammar. I claim the same skills, but not everyone is fortunate enough to be highly literate, if you will. As to the issue of the 47 Senators, we’re both mostly on the same page.. On this forum however, the ideas expressed take priority over literary prowess, dontcha think? (error deliberate!)

        1. Kenny Coffman says

          You betcha! Ha ha! Content over grammar. It’s just nice to see a well-written comment.

    3. Rick Rogers says

      You guys did not seem to have much of a problem when Reagan, Bush and Bush signed all those Executive orders.

      1. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says


        1. Mark Lahti says

          Right on Irene!!!

        2. Rick Rogers says

          Thank You Irene.. I am just Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln were Progressives.

          1. Deby says

            wrong idiot-Lincoln was a conservative.

          2. Rick Rogers says

            I am sorry Deby but your not correct. And does not take much Research to see that Lincoln was not a Conservative when considered by his statements in his day. In fact during the Arguments about the Emancipation Proclamation he was charged as being a extreme Liberal thinker by members of Congress a number of times. I give you that Lincoln was more of a Moderate then Liberal but his ideas and statements all came down more on the Left side of the dial then it did the Right.

          3. MAHB001 says

            You sir are a liar, homophobic progressive liberal hypocrite with zero credibility.

          4. Robyn Goldstein says

            Watch the language. Only a dignified discussion of differences of opinion goes somewhere.

          5. MAHB001 says

            Rick and I have a history. The last post Rick sent to me, he told me to F– off. Talk about dignified language.
            I only push back as hard as I have been pushed, and have ONLY used facts and not insults to prove my points.
            Rick is a troll, paid by Soros, to post divisive posts on Conservative sites. Liberals know if they can divide Conservatives, Liberals win.
            I have proven in past posts that he is a liar, homophobic, hypocrite, with multiple personalities.
            Sorry my post has offended you. But, the creep deserves worse.

          6. M Walden says

            Class will tell, and obviously Rick has a vocabulary deficiency and a vulgar tongue. It is difficult to discuss things reasonably with unreasonable individuals.

          7. MAHB001 says

            Rick is NOT here to discuss. He is here to dictate. He does not have an open mind. Pass over that one if you want to discuss something reasonably.

          8. Rick Rogers says

            Kiss my ass you piece of Fecal Matter.

          9. Rick Rogers says

            That’s true M Walden and MAHB001 is the unreasonable Individual.. Don’t believe me go back and look how many times he has Inserted himself into a discussion I was having with someone else to throw an Insult and then does not even have the guts to put his name out there to stand up for his Comments. Every claim he has made is false and he has no proof what so ever to back up those claims. I give you the example.. I use the Term Tea Bagger to talk about people that claim loyalty to the Tea party.. Where did I get it. There was an internet post of A old Tea Party woman standing there with a Sign claiming she was “tea Bagging for Jesus” And because of that its suppose to make me a Homophobic.. The people that know me on other Sites and Facebook groups got a really good laugh at that fool for that.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            You started this scumbag. I do not every attack first. I give back what I am given and if you don’t like it you should not have started it. Anyone can look at the post I make and will see when I am address in a civil tongue that’s how I reply. You on the other hand are nothing but a coward hiding behind a fake name. This is the only Name I use on this site. You took a sarcastic comment I made to some else and have tried to twist it to match your warped Beliefs

          11. MAHB001 says

            Mr. Rogers,

            Our feud goes back MONTHS, far beyond this thread.

            As you have suggested, I encourage anyone that is reading this posts to go back and view your comments. Not just our correspondences, but ANY of your posts.
            What they will find is that typically you open with an insult, presumably the insult is designed to call into question the person you are talking to credibility, (See above) and then follow with something that is a half truth, outright lie, or diversion. None of which anyone should give any credence. Again, All three are in the above.
            They will also find your homophobic posts calling Tea Party members, Tea Baggers. Anyone using that term is Homophobic.
            They will find your post where you BRAGGED (You were not being sarcastic) about creating alternate accounts where you posted (under another name) ridiculous statements to see how many Tea Baggers to agreed with the moronic statement. Proving that you post under false names
            They will find lies, they will find deceit, they will find propaganda.
            And probably the MOST despicable thing they will find is a post where you BRAGGED about attending a Tea Party rally where YOU sold leather bound copies of the Constitution for around $20, which cost you only $3 and then you DONATED the profits (approx. $500) to a DEMOCRATS CAMPAIGN. You called those people fools, you bragged about how stupid they were.
            You know, if this was a WAR and you were caught in the act of spying, you be shot.
            So Sir, you are a LIAR, you are a homophobe, you take advantage of others good nature, and you have ZERO credibility left.
            On top of everything, you are an evil person with an ugly soul.

          12. Rick Rogers says

            Not even going to tarnish the word by call you Sir, You are a lying piece of Crap Tea bagger. You twist everything anyone says and start out insulting people I am not going to waste any more keystrokes on a Clearly Racist Scum back like yourself. You can lie all you want. Who I am and what I believe is very clear to anyone that wants to check me out. I use my name so people can find me on Facebook. I am group admin on a facebook page that is Anti Tea Party and make no secret about it. The first time we exchanged emails you made a stupid statement and I ask you to clarify it and you called me an idiot..SO from the bottom of my heart please understand when I say this. YOU are beneath contempt. You are what is wrong with this country. You are what I wipe off my shoe when I go for a walk around the Dog Park and step in the wrong thing. AND You are a Coward that does not have the guts to stand up behind your real name and be counted. So please Make a trip to the Beach and take walk off a short Pier that is surrounded by Sharks At least that way something would again Benefit for your sorry existence the sharks that would eat your sorry ass. TO anyone reading you want to believe this crap he vomits out I don’t care. Anyone that checks will see I never attack anyone that does not attack me first. If you want to have a civil discussion I am all for it its why I am here. IF you want to insult and name call I can give as good as I get.

          13. MAHB001 says

            Look in the mirror. You are talking about yourself.
            You are also full of HATE and an obvious bigot.

          14. Rick Rogers says

            I you don’t know how to win an argument with facts and References. Yes I sold those Copies but never said what I was planning on doing with the money. So your against The fact I made a profit or are you against the fact I decide what I was going to do with the money I earned from that Enterprise.. Any way your stance is very Anti Capitalism.. You know the form of government that dictates who you can spend your profits I believe is Communism. So your embracing that now I see.

          15. MAHB001 says

            I realize you do not know how to win an argument with facts and solid references.
            I can tell you that I didn’t fabricate any part of the post. I used your words.
            And the twist to say I am anti Capitalism is so Alinsky like. You have learned well Alinsky wannabee. Nice try at a deflection.
            In FACT, I am against liars, hypocrites, hateful people and now SPYS.
            So I believe:
            A vote for a Democrat is a vote for Socialism = Communism
            A vote for a Republican is a vote for Capitalism.
            I embrace God, Capitalism, and the Constitution.

          16. Rick Rogers says

            Ok no name calling tired of it . Ok so you agree that the Constitution is the law of the land. we can agree with that.. BUT.. Those other two things you embrace.. GOD and Capitalism.. Could you maybe show me where in the Constitution those two words are listed? Or even where the word Christian is listed. If it was that important it makes sense they would be in there some where.

          17. MAHB001 says

            Another deflection, but I will bite.
            The Constitution Does not need the exact words of Capitalism or God in it because it was written to support Capitalism, and with the Blessings of Liberty.

            True the Constitution does not mention those words, nor can you find the words: socialism, Islam, separation, church, or the phrase, separation of church and state, schools, education, or trash pick up.

            But, all those words and phrases are used by the Politically correct crowd against Christians, Patriots, Capitalism, and the Constitution, in the support OF SOCIALISM.

            Using your logic, wouldn’t it have made sense to use those words IN THE CONSTITUTION if they were so important?

            Here is why I say the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, supports Capitalism over Socialism/Communism, and a Supreme being.

            We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
            What a wonderfully worded document. Our laws were designed to ensure Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for common defence, promote general welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our future generations (Posterity).

            Now lets look at the definitions for Capitalism and Socialism.

            Free-market system
            an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, characterized by a free competitive market and motivation by profit

            Political system of communal ownership
            a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles movement based on socialism
            Key words being:
            Capitalism = private ownership
            Socialism = communal ownership
            Now if you READ the entire Constitution you will find the laws defined there in assume that the PEOPLE are FREE and with LIBERTY to own their own stuff.
            Taxes in fact are taken from the peoples wealth…..
            The Constitution was written to support Life and Liberty. (and the pursuit of happiness)
            Under Socialism, you don’t own anything, you work for the MAN…. All your wealth is automatically communal ownership.
            Socialism is a form of slavery.
            Capitalism is private ownership.
            AND check out the fact that they Capitalized “Blessings.”
            For those with Faith, Blessings come from God.
            Enough said. Constitution was written to create and ensure an environment of Capitalism.

            Can you tell me where those without faith think the Blessings of Liberty come from?….

          18. Rick Rogers says

            Ok first of all let me say these.. NO person as anymore or any LESS rights in this country because of their Religion. No One can be disqualified from holding political office because of the religion. I held a 4 year term as a village Councilman and during the campaign when they were asking the other Candiates Questions one of the questions was bout what Church you go to. there were 7 of us going for 3 seats on the council. When it got to me I said that it was a question I was not going to answer. Religion is a private thing and had nothing to do with this election. That there is no Religious test to hold office. FYI I got 53 percent of the vote and the only candidate that got more votes was the guy that donated 10K dollars to help build playgrounds in the village.

            Blessings of liberty one of those Flowery phrases used in the Preamble. IT was not indicating BLESSING FROM A DIVINE BEING.

            Webster Dictionary has three Definition of the word blessing and only one of them refers to GOD.. and that does not indicate WHAT God they are referring to.

            blessing: 1. approval that allows or helps you to do something, 2. a thing conducive to happiness or welfare, 3: help and approval from God

            The word Liberty is used 3 times in the Constitution

            The Word Free is used 3 times

            The word People is used 9 times

            The word Religion is USED ONE TIME.

            The word Religious is USED ONE TIME.

            So it sounds like they thought People were more important then Religion.

            The word Christ.. Not in there.

            The word God.. NOT IN THERE

            The word Capitalism NOT IN THERE

            DO you know why there is a separation of church and state. So that one group can not get together and used their Religion as Law for others that are not their Religion. It is inherent in the wording that Freedom of Religion is Guaranteed to all citizens and That includes the Right to be FREE of Religion if someone so decides that route.

            The word Free market not used at all.

            No REFERENCE IS Made to ANY economic System what so every. The problem with Capitalism is the same weakness with every other economic system. Greedy People that control the wealth and use it to influence Elected officals to do their Bidding. I am sure you have heard the quote those that Have the wealth makes the rules. Well that’s pretty much how it is today. How else could you explain a corrupt Person in the State of North Carolina that all of a sudden comes up with a 10 million dollar war chest when its a know fact he has been using his political office to enrich himself for years pushing for laws that benefit him and to hell with everyone else.

          19. Rick Rogers says

            “Can you tell me where those without faith think the blessings of Liberty come From?” sure that’s easy they are part of the Basic human right of any man woman or CHILD BORN on this Planet. All the them are entitled to those rights. Some are deprived of them by evil men. Some want to limit them because of the complexion of their Skin. Others want to limit them because they don’t pray to the same god. The Word Faith is used in the Constitution once and two times as Faithfully and none of them are in reference to a religion.

          20. Rick Rogers says

            There is one thing I just noticed. When you were talking about the wonderfuly worded document. And it was. There had never been anything quite like it written before that at its core placed “The People” as the Deciding factor of who leads a country. But That Preamble pretty much said to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
            Those terms like Insure domestic Tranquility, Provide for the common defence, Promote General Welfare. Can all be used to justify programs that attempt to elevate “the People” in ways to better their Lives.. The schools and education, You don’t have much General Welfare if you have hundreds of thousands of people that Sick or hungry. And having a population that is hungry is not going to Insure much Domestic Tranquility. I hear people all the time saying they want to be a Christian Nation but I don’t remember reading any part of the Bible where Jesus is quoted as saying. “let them Starve”, or “they are sick let them die”.
            I have never gone into this with you before but let me tell you this. My beliefs and political thoughts aren’t tied to anyone party or person. Its tied to who I think will try to do the most good and who has done the most damage. That’s it no big dark secret. Those that I believe will try do to the most for the most will get my vote everytime. Those that have in the past done the most for the lest and most privileged will never ever get my vote.
            Promote General Welfare to me is always going to me. Do what we can to help people that need help. Because in the long run that helps all of us.

          21. Rick Rogers says

            MAHB001 your a coward by any other name and you still smell like you pissed your pants. Must be Terrible to not have enough conviction in your beliefs you have to hide behind a fake name like you do.

          22. Robyn Goldstein says

            Actually, Lincoln was a true conservative if the standard is human history.

          23. Rick Rogers says

            actually Robyn the members of congress criticized about his Liberal Minded Thinking a number of times during the debate of the 13th Amendment. All his actions as president were based on the premise of a Strong Federal Government over states Rights. During his Time Conservatives (and still today Conservatives) did not go in that direction.

          24. docwilly says

            bullshit. Lincoln was a Republican.,He freed the slaves the dem0crats have bamboozeled ever since. One can be progressive w/o bieng a liberturd

          25. Rick Rogers says

            DocWilly Not going to try and Argue with you just going to give you the simple Fact Lincoln only cared about Saving the Union. During the Civil war he had a letter to the Editor Published in the New York Times to Horace Greeley. In the letter he said that if he could save the Union and not free a single Slave he would. Those are his words. You can read the whole letter here.

          26. Rick Rogers says

            DocWIlly.. Ever hear of the “Southern Strategy” Nixon Used. It was to convince White MEN in the south that Their way of life was being threaten. Most of those white men did not have a problem using the N word to talk about an African American.. But gets what. Most of those people are no longer Democrats. Their in the Republican Party. Here are two famous names for you Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms.. Both started out in the Democratic Party when the party had a nasty Racist streak. As to Lincoln Have you ever read the Letter Lincoln wrote himself to the Pulisher of the NEW YORK TIMES. There is a link to it http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm Its an Interesting letter in the fact LIncoln flat out says his goal is to save the Union at pretty Much any Cost. Those were his goals The exact quote that is the most Telling is “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. ”
            Oh.. and just to be Clear Lincoln was A Moderate Republican. The type that the Tea Party has been trying to stamp out of the party for the last 6 years or so.

          27. docwilly says

            still ranting and raving. You need help, Classic manic depressive

          28. Rick Rogers says

            Got your terms Wrong .. Liberal is from the Latin word liberalis which translation means honorable; courteous, well bred, gentlemanly; liberal; generous;.

            English Definition according to the Oxford Dictionary Willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas:
            (In a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform:

          29. docwilly says

            MY God he can read. Comprehension is another matter. not from any dictionary ,just common sense=liberal also means asshole.one willing to give the country away pro immigration (hope you speak Spanish),favorited by illegals, loves foodstamp giveaways to welfare Kings and Queens, agrees with the Obama form of foreign policy ,i.e. appeasment, apology, foreign ass kissing,Muslim poster boy

          30. Rick Rogers says

            And here I thought you were someone that could hold up a Reasonable Discussion with References and Point counter Points. Thanks for letting every one know your true colors..

          31. docwilly says

            and proud of the colors. Retired Navy,and proud conservative-SCREW OFF LOONEY TUNE LIBERTURD

          32. Rick Rogers says

            So was my Dad and I was Air Force my brother was Army. I had a cousin that wanted to enlist but the Conservatives of his day said he did not have the right to serve because he liked boys more then Girls. Conservative means Status Quo.. he you know who else was a conservative… David DUKE, Joe McCarthy, Caspar Weinberger Guility of Perjury and obstruction of Justice, Charles Colson – Obstruction of Justice. Dick Cheney War Crimes Torture, George Bush War Crimes Torture. No supposed Lie Told by President Obama got as many people killed as the Lie that Cheney and Bush pushed thru that got us in a war that killed over a million people.

          33. docwilly says

            you remain a rectal orifice of the equine variety and apparently have your head in that orifice

          34. Rick Rogers says

            And your a lemming that is consistently voting against your own interest.

          35. docwilly says

            unsubscribe  KEITH

          36. OldPatriot32 says

            Fool; in his farewell address, Washington said the biggest danger to the fledgling US in the future would be the Enemy Within, not some external entity. The election of Obama (twice) with his leftist agenda, makes GW’s warning prophetic & axiomatic/

          37. Rick Rogers says

            Oldpatriot32.. I have to ask this. Have you even Read his Farewell Address Because I have and there is not anything even close to what your quoting. Closing thing was he was warning against Political Parties with their Regional Agenda’s and the Coming confict he could see between North and South.

          38. OldPatriot32 says

            Kinda like the coming conflict between Left and Right?
            Point is, he know there was trouble and traitors in DC, same as today.

        3. Robyn Goldstein says

          science is about real progress (knowlege that is grounded upon facts), not being progressive or regressive. And who said you are a traitor because you have an opinion.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            Robyn Goldstein.. I told her if she did not think the 47 that sent the letter were traitors then she should fit right in with them or something close to that.

      2. Deby says

        Rick you are a troll, and a true misguided, hypocritical obamabot. Irene is NOT the traitor–your insane muslim president is.

        1. Mark Lahti says

          You go Deby!!! Right on.

        2. Robyn Goldstein says

          Using such language like “insane” goes nowhere. I am all for democracy so long as it upholds the social fabric of order. Do u really want chaos. Obama is an educated man and more so than most of us on the law. You are misguided if you think otherwise. Is this prejudice of a sort? I was taught to treat people no matter who they are respectfully. This seems to be all about his race and ignorance concerning what Africa has to teach us about the human condition.

          1. OldPatriot32 says

            Robyn, if you choose to ignore the fact that Obama is an Islamic sympathizer at best, and a Marxist at heart out to turn the US into a Socialist/Communist/Islamic one-party nation at worst (probably under a dictatorship), then you’re seriously in need of a Reality Check. His actions the past 7 years prove he’s dancing to the agendas of his elitist One-Worlder puppeteers determined to bring the nation under the umbrella of a seriously corrupt UN, while disarming the citizenry as well, ala Adolph Hitler and his party of Nazis. Hope you never get the “knock on the door” from Big Brother some night; these words will come back to haunt you!

          2. Rick Rogers says

            OldPatriot32.. You and others on this site have made these wild completely unsubstantiated claims for years. The sad part is you won’t acknowledge the clear facts right in front of you. 1. There is nothing wrong with being sympatric to people that are caught up conflicts that are caused by wild Extremist. IF that was the case then you called say there are lot of Jewish Sympathizer for their Land Grabs on the West bank and Gaza. The thing that is worst is OUR own Wild Extremists that are blaming US citizens that might also be Muslims and considering them the enemy. The Target has always been those Wild Extremists that are the actually threat. The President has ordered more strikes against the Leadership of those Groups then Bush did before him.
            2. If he was a Marxist/Communist he is not a very good one. The stock market is an all-time high. Corporate Profits also at all time High. We have seen something along the lines of 20 plus months of consecutive job growth. Something that would not happen if he was a Communist. What he has taken issue with is that while previous Presidents have cut Corporate Taxes on the theory that it would “trickle Down” the only place it has trickled to is Off shore Tax Havens. The Average American has Lost spending power and Has seen its Pay rate either Stagnate or Drop since the 1980’s While the 1% just got richer. You can’t have the “American Dream” like that and to claim otherwise is just plain foolish. Since 1980 the only Wealth Re-distrution going on has been Up toward the 1%.

            3. For the Last 7 years I have heard the NRA and Other Gun Nuts claim HE IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS.. My question. Is he WALKING DOOR TO DOOR because not one gun has been taken from a law abiding citizen by order of the President. What has happen is these claims are heard by the weak Minded and under educated and they rush out and buy Guns like it was going out of style. They use the President as the Boogey Man to pump up gun sales. They should just break down and announce a MONTHLY.. THE PRESIDENT IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS SALE.
            4. The Knock on the door you hear won’t be from This President. Its will be from those that are there to take your home because you can’t pay the outrageous Medical bills that pile up if you happen to get sick for any period of time. I recently had to have Surgery to replace my elbow. I got the bill for that and all totaled up it was 170,000 dollars. I have a cousin that is a Hospital Admin in Canada. I ask him to total up what my bill would be if I lived in Canada and he compared it Line for Line off the Medical Bill.. My total cost for everything they did for in Canada would have been 47,000 dollars. The Republican Plan has been LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE. SO I ask you when in human history has a Free Market Company Volunteered to give away ANYTHING that was not a publicity Stunt. I have some bad news for you people.. There is nothing FREE about the FREE MARKET.

          3. OldPatriot32 says

            I feel sorry for you and your liberal beliefs. Interesting, that conservatives personally donate far more money and property to various charities than your elite liberals, and the rest of the Donkey pack.

          4. Rick Rogers says

            You did not seem to say much that disputed the facts I laid out. Or to offer much in the way if facts to support your statement. So try this one. A tea party lead state Kansas. Went from a budget surplus to having to shut down schools about 2 weeks early because they did not have the money to keep them open.

      3. Mark Lahti says

        Those orders did not violate the constitution. Try using some common sense here. The executive order was made for moments like those. It was not intended to be a tool to go around congress and violate the separation of powers granted in the constitution. You liberals always do this sort of bogus argument. Try to take something from the past, out of context, and attempt to apply it to a totally different situation. Is that because you have no real argument? I think so.

        1. Rick Rogers says

          Sorry Marky but no Executive order he has signed has Violated the Constitution in ANYWAY. He used The Precedent set by and Used by just about every Republican President in the Last 100 years. As to the Real Argument.. Ok here you go.. The GOP has put in place a Congress that goes by the creed that no government is good Government. So if your going to put a bunch of Lame ass idiots (Louie Gohmert comes to mind) then thank god there is a President that says “Pass a bill” or I will take action to correct a problem. They House has had a Bi Partisan Immigration bill sitting on the Speakers Desk since Jun 27, 2013 · and he won’t allow a vote. The President has said he will sign that bill but the House GOP would rather just let the situation Fester hoping they get some Campaign slogans out of it for 2016. I have to say.. I just love how this new Congressional Majority has been Shooting themselves in the Foot.. Hell The Democrats should PAY the GOP political Advisers that the Republicans have in place. They are doing the best job for The DEMOCRATS ever.

          1. Brenda says

            One of the Constutional duties of the President is to ADMINISTER the LAW, not to ESTABLISH or CREATE the Law. Because he can not get his way is not justification for any President to circumvent Congress. It is not his job to issue edicts such as “Pass a bill” or “I will take action to correct a problem.” Such actions are those of a dictator or king.

          2. Mark Lahti says

            Brenda, Brenda, Brenda. You can’t argue with a liberal. Just re-read Ricky’s first sentence. His first blow out of his mouth is a lie. But the liberal in him won’t allow that anything that “tingle up the leg” Obama says could possibly be wrong. Why? I with there was an answer. The liberal mind (using the term mind in reference to a liberal again) does not comprehend reality. They can only spew the rhetoric that they view as gospel from their King. They buy into and believe the lie so vehemently that they shame themselves every time they go there and know not of what they speak every time. I have responded to Ricky once in this post and refuse to continue because of that very issue. There is no arguing with a liberal so indoctrinated with the lie. Please, a total violation of the separation of powers that this POS POTUS uses to go around congress and Ricky thinks that it is legal just because he does it? Gotta be somewhat insane to believe that lie over and over again..

          3. Brenda says

            I know, but it sure is fun to yank his chain. Beside annoying Richy, I get to interject a few facts in the conversation. I believe that if one tells a lie often enough, many will accept it as truth. Hopefully by refuting such inane comments some will start searching for the truth.

          4. Rick Rogers says

            Hmm so the comments by that Famous Conservative Tea Party Senator from South Carolina Lindsey Graham made “if I was President I would keep Congress in DC till they restored military Spending to the level I wanted. If I had to use military force to keep them there I would”. Is that not a statement made by someone that wants to be President that he would Hold Congress hostage till he got what he wanted? Hell if President Obama made that statement everyone on here would be going out of their MINDS. Oh well guess it has to do with the “complexion” of the person saying it and whither there is a (D) or and (R) after their Title.

          5. Brenda says

            Sorry Rick, but the only one labeling Graham as a Conservatie Tea Party Senator is Graham. Graham is a politician that like McCain can not decide which side of the fence they want to be on. His comment was not only idiotic, but shows he is unfit for the office he holds. The color of ones skin does not factor into the rightness or wrongness of any policy. And the color of ones skin should not be the deciding factor with any issue, agenda, or policy of our officials. It was wrong of Obama to circumvent congress over the immigration issue, just as it would be wrong for any of the GOP candidates to support such a move.
            Party affiliations does not absolve anyone.

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Brenda.. He had no choice. The House has not even touched the Senate Immigration bill that has been sitting on the Speakers desk for close to two years. The reason he won’t allow a vote on it is because he knows there are enough votes to pass it and the Tea Party Faction would go Nuts.. The “secure our border and we will talk about it” Plan is a pipe dream. Your talking about a 2000 mile Border some of which goes thru the Nastiest Terrain in the United States. There is no way short of the entire US Army in place that you could secure that border. tHE EXECUTIVE ORDER does not great general amnesty Like Reagan and Both Bushs Did.. If it did I would understand the outrage. It sits down a Clear set of rules for people that have been here 5 years. Nothing more. And he said when he rolled it out that it would be null and Void when Congress passes an immigration Reform Law. He is not trying to Circumvent anything He is trying to get them to get off their duff and do the job they were sent to Washington to do. So honestly would you rather he did nothing at all and just let the problem grow worst and worst. Presidents have used executive Orders for much worst then this.. Remember the 1970’s Nixon signed an executive order that froze Wage and Prices. Now THAT was being a dictator and Circumventing Congress. Members of Reagans White house staff when on Record that the Restricts against supplying weapons to the CONTRA’s in Nicaragua did not apply to the President (IE he was above the law).

          7. Brenda says

            Rick, there are always choices. And have you read the Senate bill? If not, then please do. Reagan used Executive orders and so did Bush, but their orders clarified, and in some cases exceded laws passed by Congress. Neither one took it upon theirselves to grant amnesty to millions of illegals. If he were so concerned about these illegals, then why not enforce established laws? Rather, he chose to stop enforcement of the borders with his catch and release, he chose to release thousands of illegal criminals, some violent, onto our streets,

          8. Rick Rogers says

            Ok last time I am going to try this.. THERE WAS NO AMNESTY GRANTED. Amnesty means.. “OH YOUR FORGIVEN YOU CAN STAY HERE NOW. The program was for people that had been here that had made a contribution to the country and that would Apply for the program. ALL OF WHICH HE SAID would be Null and Void as soon as Congress does their job. If he had done nothing you people would be screaming about that. Oh and Granting Amnesty is EXACTLY that Reagan’s Executive order did. In fact http://www.conservativehq.com/article/12036-learning-president-reagan%E2%80%99s-mistakes and this is not the only Conservative publication that list Reagan’s Amnesty as one of his biggest mistakes. Not asking you to take me word for it.. Just google “biggest mistake Reagan made” Click on any link for a conservative Source and his “Amnesty Program” that gave 3 million amnesty is listed. Don’t Blast me for using Conservatives sources and conservative Quotes when establishing my case.

          9. Deby says

            you are not only an ignorant, misinformed tool Ricky, but you apparently have no real thoughts about this topic except what you read in the liberal rag medias. The PEOPLE have elected this Congress and they are in place to try and stop this dictator in chief from turning Americans against each other by his constant racial bias’s, letting the country get overrun with Illegals (democratic voters) keeping as many people on the gov dole as possible, screwing with health care, and pushing his radial agendas on religion, marriage and education. Reminder, Harry Reid swept EVERY bill that obozo didn’t want to sign OFF his desk for the past 6 years. Is Menedez a hero of yours? just sayin…

          10. Mark Lahti says

            Nice thoughts Deby. But again, I must advise you that to argue with a committed liberal is a total waste of space. They believe that this constitutional expert could not possibly be violating the constitution. I believe his studies were intended to find ways to do just that. His upbringing was totally about communism and alinsky. How could he possibly spend all that time studying constitutional law and not have a clue that his every action is violating said constitution? The liberal believes the lie and therefore defends the lie to their own demise in the end. Maybe we should just pray for them. That really seems to be the only thing we can do as they are unreachable by any other means.

          11. MAHB001 says

            I use liberals posts to repeat the truth. The one thing you can not do is let these creeps have the last word or let them repeat a lie without challenging it.

          12. Deby says

            You are right of course Mark, but I just get so damn mad reading this crap on this website. I am taking a deep breath..

          13. Robyn Goldstein says

            I am a 4th generation American. My family came here in two waves to avoid discrimination of the worst sort. I am an independent who tends to vote democratic not because I don’t wish to vote conservative, but because I find the Republican party to be lacking in ideas of the sort that the republican party was founded upon. Stop calling the president names. It is beneath the dignity of the office and at odds with our democractic values. If you don’t like him, that is ok. Vote for someone else the next time around. Let’s keep the conversation respectful and tolerant of differences of opinion. I am done here for now.

          14. Deby says

            Sorry Robyn, you don’t get to tell me what to do-I too have 1st Amendment rights. I will refer to the current person residing in the WH any way I choose-you don’t like it too bad, I think it is HE who has disrepected the office he holds, therefore opening himself up to critical opinions as well. Also, I do not need your approval to dislike him-what are you? his mama? I will say what I please, and you may certainly vote me down, it is your right to do so, but do not lecture me because I thoroughly disagree with your lofty BS with very little (possibly none) facts to back up your liberal,hippie opinions. Good Day Madame.

          15. MAHB001 says


          16. Rick Rogers says

            Yes MAHB001 we know your mother had Sexual Relations with a bull but that’s not the point

          17. MAHB001 says

            loser, your insults are as impotent as you are.

          18. Rick Rogers says

            That’s not what your wife said. She could only talk about your “short” comings

          19. M Walden says

            The problem, Rick, is that Bills are sent to your King ;and he vetoes them and does whatever he wants. He does not listen to the people’s voice- he lost BIG TIME in mid term election and refuses to acknowledge his defeat.

        2. MAHB001 says

          Common sense is not in the Trolls toolbox.
          no sense in trying to talk to the guy.
          But excellent try. Maybe others will benefit from your wisdom.

        3. Robyn Goldstein says

          science is not only about `common’ sense of the sort that differs depending upon your reference point. Why- because individual experience is limited by the actual conditions of which exist outside of it of which requires research to identify.

          1. David Kledzik says

            There is no wiggle room or grey area in the Constitution.
            Executive order is in place to let the president have some directive on what he would like to see acomplished, not subvert the Constitution and bypass the congresses law making duties, no matter if he thinks they arent moving fast enough for him. Article 2, Section2, Clause 2 its loud and clear….. And your right everyone has a right to their opinion,,
            SEMPER FIDELIS 1983-2004

      4. mac12sam12 says

        but…but…but…Bush did it!

        1. Rick Rogers says

          how about you look up the word precedent. Your complaining about President Obama using one of the most bedrock principles of practicing any Law. Precedent will ordinarily govern the decision of a later similar case, unless a party can show that it was wrongly decided or that it differed in some significant way. So here is the thing ( and believe me I have no idea why I am trying this with someone that has shown he has not respect for honest dialog) Its not the BUSH did it.. ITS that Bush Did it and the rest of the GOP did or said nothing about it. But when a Democrat does it its a Federal/ Constitutional LAW Violation. Want the most Blatant example.. The Marine Barracks attack in 1983. After the attack there was no call of Conspiracy, no demand that for the Secretary of Defense or State to resign. There was no kangroo court of Congressmen try to paint the President and his administration as hiding anything. There were a few Lowlifes that tried to make their bones on it but none of them were Committee Chairs in the house or Senate. There were hearing yes but not they were not for finger pointing . 241 US Marines died and 2 Years Later the Inman Report, was released that was not to assign blame but was recommendations on how to keep it from happening again. Oh and just to be clear that CONGRESS was controlled by the Democrats who’s concern was stopping it from happening again. There was no witch hunt The commander of the barracks, Col. Timothy J. Geraghty, says in congressional hearings investigating the attacks that the compound was hard to defend because it was on flat ground and vehicles drove by it daily to access the airport. When you put a military commander in a bad Situation like that and his does the best he can with what he has its not the fault of the Commander if he fails (even though all good Commanders Do say its their Fault). You can only expect people to do the best they can with what they are given.

      5. John Driggers says

        Full Definition of PATRIOT
        : one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests
        Examples of PATRIOT
        He was a great patriot who devoted his life to serving his country.

        Origin of PATRIOTMiddle French patriote compatriot, from Late Latin patriota, from Greek patriōtēs, from patria lineage, from patr-, patēr father

        This is from the Merriam-Webster dictionary

        Now…..anybody believing that Irene Elizabeth Grooms fall under this definition of a Patriot, say “Aye”

        1. John Driggers says


        2. MAHB001 says


        3. Rick Rogers says

          Not so concerned about Irene Elizabelth Grooms .. but the 47 are hearing loud and Clear from A large number of people that they aren’t Patriots.

          1. John Driggers says

            OK, Rick, this is got to be interesting, obviously you dont think the definition of a patriot i gave is a true definition so tell me what is your definition? (holds onto my seat because it has to be a Belly buster)

          2. John Driggers says

            Rick Rogers: ”

            Not so concerned about Irene Elizabelth Grooms .. but the 47 are hearing
            loud and Clear from A large number of people that they aren’t Patriots.”

            Really? what are your resources? id like to read it and see how much truth is in what you say

          3. Rick Rogers says

            No polls have been run yet but you can bet they are.. So you have to read a bit between the lines.. 1. The petition on the “we the People” website hit the 100k mark in less the 24 hours. 2. Last night there was an AP report that something like 32 editors of newspapers across the country have come out against that letter. 3. No democrat signed that letter and no democrat would sign that letter. There are 43.1 Million Democrats in the United States (as of 2012) and 30.7 million Republicans. those are the observations the real polls I would bet the farm on will not show a positive response to those 47 senators. What they are trying to do is overstep the bounds of the duties of their office. They DON”T Write the Treaties they advise and Consent and so far there is nothing for them to “advise and Consent on” there objection is that there are talks going on at all. And if the President decides on an Executive agreement with Iran he does not even need the Senate to Consent.. Here is the Senate.gov website on Treaties.. Look at the Executive Agreement section. This is the Senates Read on what their job under the constitution is so don’t take my word for it look at it your self John Driggers. http://www.senate.gov/general/Features/Treaties_display.htm

          4. John Driggers says

            Mister Rogers,
            1- Im interested in getting this “We the People” website from you.
            2- theres only 32 editors in the US? shouldnt there be at least five times that many? 32 sounds about right for a small percentage of them
            3- Do you think President Obama is correct only because he IS the president?
            4- do you object to anything that President Obama does? Petty things do not count but add them so i can get my daily chuckle please

          5. John Driggers says

            oh and as far as the Senate most are likely to be coerced, paid, or threatened by President Obama, but 47 of them seems to be putting their Citizens first ahead of them

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Don’t really have the time to do all your web research for you john but I will give you the link for we the people Petition. Its up to 274,000 signatures as of the time I am responding to you. 2. With out polls I was giving they the posted editorial pieces that were reported so far. Am sure there are many more I could not find. 3. no I think he is basically a good man that is trying to do a job with A party in control of congress that has admitted to doing everything they can to obstruct him.
            4. Yes there are items I don’t agree with. I don’t agree with Fast track Trade Agreements. They have not worked out in the past to the US advantage. I don’t agree with his stance on Israel. I think he has been way to soft on them. I am not sure about the use of so many drone strikes but would rather he put a piece of equipment at Risk before risking the life of a service Member. For everything else.. Yes I agree. The ACA was based on the Heritage Foundation plan. You have heard of them right Conservative Think tank. I don’t agree with not allowing Single Payer but it was a comprise that might have had to be done. I don’t have a problem with Waiting periods For purchase of Firearms and don’t have a problem if certain types of Military class weapons are not allowed for sale to the General Public. No one and The Presidents administration has said anything about “GO GET THEIR GUNS” that Fiction has been used so much by the NRA and The Gun Industry they should just break down and call it the “OBAMA Coming for your GUNS Monthly SALE” Come get them while their HOT.

          7. OldPatriot32 says

            Idiot. The hysterical Left and RINOS are doing the weeping and wailing over this issue-not the real American patriots who can separate the BS from the truth!

          8. Rick Rogers says

            Got some bad news for you those Democrats you are so ready to slander. Most of them are going to have a Stage to speak on in 2016 and there will be a National audience Listing. And those democrats are going to say to fellow Democrats and the vast audience of Independents ‘What have they done for you lately” They are going to ask them to point to one Program the Republicans have enacted that was for their Benefit and not the benefit of the 1%.. And when they do that your going to hear this deafening Silence. Maybe even hear some Crickets Chirp in the back ground. And they are going to point out “you know that 9 percent approval Rating congress has.. Well the Republicans have been the ones in charge of the HOUSE. They set the work Schedules they setup how much time Congress is in session and they are the ones that have not put forth any bill that will help you in your daily lives.. THATS what your going to hear.. And your going to hear it on TV and Radio and In newspapers and Magazines and so many people are going to hear it that when that 900 million that the Koch brothers have committed to the election start showing up as ADS its going to be clear who is telling the lies. Who has the Best interest of all Americans at heart. So here is a truth for you Old Patriot32.. this group you support.. Their Base is Shrinking Faster then a Sweater washed in hot water. Democrats are getting 18 year and 19 year voters registering as Democrats at the rate of about 2 to 1 to Republicans. The Writing is on the wall.. Change your party Symbol from an elephant to a Dinosaur because they are going extinct. Oh wait I forgot . .A lot of your base don’t believe in Dinosaurs.. Ok Make it a dodo bird.. That animal seems much more in line with the fact that they were being knocked off one at a time and did not have the brains to understand it.

          9. OldPatriot32 says

            Keep your party symbol-the jackass; it fits them all well. You are in for a big shock in Nov. 2016, like libtards were when Ronnie was elected. That’s assuming Demrats don’t steal the election like they did in 2008 & 2012, with illegals in the cities voting 6 or 7 times!

          10. Rick Rogers says

            Prove that last Sentence of that OldPatriot32.. Because I can prove that Jeb Bush allowed his brother to steal on in 2000.

      6. Hamilton says

        I personally think the executive order is an abomination and should be dropped from our governmental protocols.

      7. OldPatriot32 says

        Rick, you got off-topic; you have oatmeal in your head.

    4. Rick Rogers says

      Hamilton, you are well spoken and while I don’t agree with your opinion about the President these 47 did in fact break a Federal Law that carries a punishment of up to 3 years in jail. Its really sad that these 47 are on the same side as the Iranian Hard Liners that don’t want this deal either. That’s REALLY good company to be associated with. I am thankful the Iranian Foreign Minister gave them a verbal lesson in International law instead of just blowing up the talks which is what the 47 wanted to do. About 23 years after we supported a man in a War where we looked the other way when he used Chemical Weapons we were invading his country on some lie that he took part in 9/11. The time it takes to make a ally an enemy can be blindly Quick. Same goes for turning an Enemy into an Ally. There are 7 countries working on this Agreement and no one knows what this agreement is going to look like and doing this while the work on it is still in progress sounds like the Weapon makers have a few Senators on their Speed dial list.

      1. Hamilton says

        Thank you for your compliments.
        The Iranian regime has repeatedly gone on record, probably for as long as my oldest tooth, claiming that all western powers, especially Israel and the United States, are THE pestilence of the world. Accordingly, they have promised to exterminate us in the names of their deity and prophet. No nation pursues the development of nuclear weapons without the intent to use them at some point. Iran has proven to be, at least rhetorically, offensively hostile. I see no reason to believe that they will restrain themselves to strictly defensive use of their impending nuclear arsenal, and I see no reason to believe that they could ever have enough respect for a pestilence, to honor any agreement with that pestilence.

        1. Rick Rogers says

          Hamilton I will agree with you that there have been Iranian hardliners in the Past that have said that. But by the same token we have Hardliners here that don’t want any attempt to work out a deal with The Iranians and the other countries. They can now be called The 47 lead by Tehran Tom Cotton. If we only threaten and Posture and then do attack you can bet your life savings that one day some one is going to show up with a suit case full of Palladium or Selenium and some C-4 type explosive.. IN New York or Washington, Chicago or Los Angeles and then there will be no Chance to settle it peacefully.

          1. Hamilton says

            I think I’m saying that I believe there is no chance to settle this peacefully because:
            1) Iran’s culture demands that they destroy us, so that is what they intend to do. They are patient. Their history shows that. But they are determined and unwavering. They are doing their god’s work and our existence is the only provocation they need. Any “deal” with Iran would necessitate the end of their culture in order for us to protect ours, which is about as likely to happen as a warthog transforming into a swan.
            2) Unlike oppressive regimes like Communist Russia or Communist China, Iran is not afraid to launch in the face of a potential global conflagration result. Think about why that is; it relates to point 1, above.
            3) Making a “deal” with Iran is morally bankrupt. Any “deal” that might merely delay Iran’s plans would be a moron’s greatest achievement.

            So if I was in charge, I would kill the mice before they enter my house. I fear for what will become of my children’s house if we don’t.

          2. Rick Rogers says

            Not a problem we can agree to disagree.

    5. Michael Stewart says

      Iran getting nuclear weapons simply means that the USA cannot bully it anymore, Iran will have to be treated as an equal something the USA does not like. I want to see Iran have nuclear weapons. This will also keep Israel in check. do not forget the only nation to ever use Nuclear weapons is the Evil USA. They used it on civilians in the greatest terrorist assault in history. The United States complains about weapons of mass destruction yet has no problem using agent orange on women and children.

      1. Hamilton says

        It sounds to me as if you’ve been listening to too much MSNBC. You spout their talking points so well.

        What is there in or about Iran that would compel the US to “bully” them and leave the other oil-producing Arab nations alone? The United States as bullies is a figment of George Soros’ imagination. And I guess you’re naive enough to believe it.

        I’d also like to know why you think Israel needs to be kept “in check”. Israel rarely does anything outside its own borders, and as a culture, they are less inclined to mix with others. Whereas the Islamic Jihadis aim to force their religious zealot subculture onto everyone not of their ilk, via the threat of death; Israel generally keeps their Judaism to themselves. No threat there. Furthermore, Israel’s military might has for a long time been capable of wiping Iran off the map, yet they haven’t. What would happen if the roles were reversed? Would Iran show anywhere near as much restraint? Would there even be an Israel today?

        I suggest that you’re backing the wrong horse, which should make you exceedingly unpopular with women, children, shopkeepers, priests, ministers, rabbis, investors, beer salesmen, agnostics, businessmen, energy producers, construction workers, etc. Maybe you should consider moving to Iran.

    6. Joyce says

      Well said!

      1. Hamilton says

        Thank you. I wonder if the senate has read it. They should; and so should our socialist-in-chief president.

    7. Lougjr1 says

      TOUCHE’ I couldn’t have said it better ! You have my 100% support !

      1. Hamilton says

        Well, I’m not a politician and I’m not running for any office, but I thank you anyway. Please do the nation a favor: cut and past what I wrote and send it out to your contacts. Have them forward it on to theirs. We need more people to understand what’s really going on in America. It’s a disaster that the Leftist insanity is the main stream media’s clarity, that they’re pushing on us.

        1. Lougjr1 says

          Thank you ! Now the hard left Democratic socialists are condemning the 47 congressmen for their letter to Iran as traitors. OK, lets explain what a TRAITOR really is, It’s Obama and administration for trying to block the 1st, 2nd, and10th + amendments to our constitution. Allowing the intrusion of every person in every country to invade us at will. Because of Obama this country has become a country that not many Americans recognize. This president has enjoyed the power of dictator due to the TRAITORS in the mass media who have allowed him to dictate to all of us subjects. That should present a clear explanation and meaning of TRAITOR. Thank you !

          1. Hamilton says

            And now I have to congratulate you. I agree. And not everyone realizes that the main stream media is just as culpable for all of which you mentioned, as Obama and his henchmen administration. Kudos to you for including that point in your rant. Among political circles, it’s no secret that much of the GOP legislators are frightened of demonization from the press. The press is hardly an unbiased news reporting business. They are now an arm of the Democrat party, as Rush Limbaugh frequently says.

    8. lovinspoonful says

      If Congress had been included in on the talks with Iran as they should have been, they would not have had to write the letter and Obama would have complied with the constitution. the letter was absolutely necessary. Obama is finding out what happens now when you bypass congress.

      1. Hamilton says

        Good point but I think that as our representative, the president is generally the person to conduct talks with Iran or any other nation. That’s how the system works, and it’s not practical or reasonable to expect the congress to travel off to far-flung lands. The problem is ALL Obama. He prefers to act as a dictator, not just presuming what congress would agree to, but telling Iran what he proposes regardless of any input from congress. The problem is that he makes deals without congressional approval or input. The problem is not the system; it’s the malfeasance from our president who disregards the system and acts unilaterally. This is like putting a wolf in charge of the henhouse or hiring a thief to run your jewelry store. The problem is that Obama’s malfeasance stems from his inherent yet covert alliance with Islam and the ‘black man’ chip on his shoulder – the latter causing him to resent everything about America. For those reasons, Obama is not suited to look after our national interests. In his position, just as with any president, we naturally expect him to protect a homeland that unfortunately, he considers to be full of racist whites; and to uphold the Judeo-Christian free-market constitutional republic principles that unfortunately, he resents and that rub his Muslim fur the wrong way. It’s no wonder why everything he does is opposite to what we would expect from any president. It also explains why we should have learned a long time ago that whatever he tells us, we should expect the opposite. It also explains all of his lies.

        And as far as Obama finding out what happens when he bypasses congress – sorry but this is way too little and way too late. IMHO, Obama should have been turned out of office a very long time ago. And the reason(s) why he hasn’t, are intensely embarrassing and shameful. It’s due to political correctness and the fact that everyone, certainly everyone in government, is afraid of being labelled racist by our main stream press for the slightest criticism of our rotten black banana. As bad a problem Obama is, the enabling main stream media is just as bad if not worse.

        My personal opinion is that trying to make a deal with Iran makes about as much sense as leaving food laying around your campsite, trusting that the raccoons will leave it alone. It’s not in their nature. The Islamic regime in Iran looks at Israel, the U.S. and all the rest of the western powers as THE pestilence of the world. There is no reason to believe that Iran would honor any ‘deal’ they make with a pestilence. Such a ‘deal’ would be a boast-worthy accomplishment for a moron.

  2. MAHB001 says

    The Letter may have been considered treason if the President of the United States were NOT treasonous.
    Impeach 0bama, with the next letter !
    Desperate times, call for desperate measures.

    1. Rick Rogers says

      So says Fruity Pebbles MAHB001.. I would call him by his real name but he is to much of a coward to use it.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        Name calling? Again, with the name calling? Why is it that when liberals have no other argument that have to resort to name calling?

        1. Wayne Thorson says

          Mark Lahti, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Read down a ways on the comments and try to say that again.

        2. Yadja says

          Because they have had Obattomies and they are the Walking Brain Dead.

          1. Mark Lahti says

            That seems to me to be a perfectly logical explanation. I wonder if that is covered under Obamacare? Maybe, if it doesn’t get shot down for being unconstitutional, it would become a required procedure. In any event I thank you for your comment and support. The “we are so much smarter than you” liberals have to have some kind of reason for their apparent lack of perception about the reality of today’s Obama world.

          2. Yadja says


      2. MAHB001 says

        It has been my pleasure to call you “Rick Rogers” out and prove that you are a liar, hypocrite, homophobic, Soros paid troll, with multiple personalities, ——- a$$hole.

        You are evil and can not be trusted. It is time to nuke “Rick Rogers” and come back as one of your alter egos.

        No good would come from you knowing my real name. We will never be friends and you are incapable of being trusted.

        1. Rick Rogers says

          Sorry Fruit cake but this is me and will stay me as long as there are Tea Baggers around to lie and spread untruths. There are times its ashamed that all the “crazy Gunman” out there are mostly Republicans or we could start putting up posters Like Palin did with Bullseyes around tea bagger politicians. That’s the difference between Liberals and Conservatives. Liberals would never do that but its no big deal to a Conservative. Conservative don’t exist unless you have someone you can be afraid of.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Thanks for proving my point.

          2. Croco Dile says

            The only good is knowledge and the only evil ignorance. – attributed to Socrates

          3. Croco Dile says

            The Romans said : “The common people like to be deceived; deceived let them be.”

          4. MAHB001 says

            The problem with you posting this to Mr. rogers is that he is the THEM in your picture.
            He uses divisive comments to keep us pawns divided.
            So your picture should read.
            Rick Rogers keeps us busy fighter each other instead of fighting Rick Rogers.
            Rogers is an Alinsky Radical wannabe paid by Soros

          5. Croco Dile says

            Do you REALLY can’t distinguish between US, the people, and THEM – the controllers, the Masters ????

            Is there something wrong with your mind ?

          6. MAHB001 says

            Mr. Rogers is paid by Soros to post divisive propaganda on conservative web sites. He does it all day long. The goal is to keep Republicans divided, because a divided Republican party is a win for the Democrats.
            This game of Divide and Conquer has been perfected by the current controllers, and has been used for everything from raising taxes on the middle class, to fixing elections.
            The guy is funded by one of THEM, he is not one of US…
            Nothing wrong with my mind.

          7. Croco Dile says

            If he is really paid by Soros himself, then he is a tool.
            A tool can be used for different purposes.

            You could “convert” him instead to demonize and redicule.

          8. MAHB001 says

            It has been my experience that the guy is not open to alternate ideologies.
            You can prove him wrong, he terminates the conversation with an insult, then starts the propaganda somewhere else.
            I ran way past my patience with this guy and have been drug down to his level, no turning back, I wont back down, neither will he.
            If you think he is worth the effort, give it a try.

          9. Croco Dile says

            I understand your reaction 🙂

            I did try with him (without insulting him) but I got no response 🙂
            If I see him again I will continue trying. He may react civilized one day ? I will see.

          10. MAHB001 says

            God and blessed you with more patience than I…
            I just strap on the armor and start slugging at these guys.
            I am not worried about hurting his feelings or saving his soul.
            This guys is evil, and the stakes are WAY too high.

          11. MAHB001 says

            So exactly how would you respond to this?
            Rick Rogers
            MAHB001 your a coward by any other name and you still smell like
            you pissed your pants. Must be Terrible to not have enough conviction in your
            beliefs you have to hide behind a fake name like you do.

            11:17 a.m., Friday March 13 | Other comments by Rick Rogers

          12. Croco Dile says

            I see…… he a funny guy also 🙂
            It’s hard to stay cool with those.
            Did you insult him before he wrote this ?

          13. MAHB001 says

            Not really insult.
            I exposed his hypocrisy, bigotry, homophobia, and lies using he own words. .
            All he has left is insults.

          14. Rick Rogers says

            That’s funny that’s almost the same thing the Koch Brothers and Fox news said last year.

          15. Croco Dile says

            It seems the Koch Brothers are having some wisdom in them 🙂

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          17. Croco Dile says
        2. Mark Lahti says

          MAHB001: Again Ricky has to call names. Again Ricky has to lie and spread the lie so often that maybe people will believe it too. Like below here where he says that the “Crazy Gunman” are Republicans. It has been shown over and over again that every single case of gun violence out there that involved a “Crazy” person going out and murdering unarmed and unaware citizens for no apparent reason was either a registered democrat or came from a family of them. He again, spreads the lie that he believes so intensely. I feel sorry for him almost as much as I fear him. Yes, I fear him. It is ignorant people like him that elected this violator of our constitution. It is ignorant people like him who lie so overtly to defend this POS POTUS. It is these sheeple that will eventually and I fear more sooner than later bring this country down to it’s ruin. We are well on the way and people like Ricky will support this to the end. Unfortunately for all of us, those liberals included, will come to the point where we are all living in a communist state. Then they will realize just how stupid they were for all that time to buy into the lie and spread it everywhere.

      3. Yadja says

        So says the kumquat Ricky Rogers.

        Appears he kicks your backside up one end and down the other all the time.

      4. docwilly says

        why,hes right on target

      5. Trythis Last says

        Rick Rogers,
        I missed the Exec Order that rescinded our 1st Amendment….. And named you keeper of values.
        You should quit abusing that right.

    2. Rick Rogers says

      Be Careful what you wish for. Because here are a lot more Democrats Register then their are Republicans and They could get the idea that Letting at Tea Party control the Country could qualify as Desperate times that would call for Desperate Measures. The average American does not Agree with most of the Tea Party rhetoric.. but I think I just start calling them the Tealiban instead.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Stay aloof, your arrogance will put you in a room by yourself.
        You and your Alinsky Radical friends have far less influence over the real Democrats than you think. They will despise you when they figure out that you have been lying to them as well.
        I got a feeling the Democrats are going to wake up and smell the same shiaeet that the Tea Party smelled at the top of the Republican party. .
        At least you agree that you are a homophobe, still a bigot too.

  3. Len Tippett says

    If a majority of Republicans don’t have the spine to impeach, then other measures must be taken.

    1. grunion says

      You know, I wonder if it is not so much spineless as it is an unwillingness to upset the apple cart and lose all their perks along with the constant inflows of money. I think they are just greedy bastards (Not all of them) who only care about feathering their own nest and to heck with the peasants.

      1. Len Tippett says

        I have to agree with you. I really believe most all of them are corrupt. They just want to be able to use tax payers money to buy votes to fill their own pockets. Either case, we need to get rid of all of them. At age seventy, I am just waiting to join the revolution. I have been lied to long enough.

    2. Rick Rogers says

      Every Republican in the house and Senate can vote to impeach if they want to and you know what it will not mean a Damn thing. It takes 2/3 vote to convict and they DON”T HAVE IT.

  4. Russ says

    I am glad they did this, they need to do more to stop this president when it comes to dealing with Iran, that country is our enemy.

    1. FloridaBoyee says

      The NRA showed how much in fluence they had in Washington this past week, getting the congress to STOP the ban on certain bullets!! We, as a United front can make the this fraudulent president and other sorry Senators & congressmen to see that they do not make their own rules!!

      1. Rick Rogers says

        The only sorry Senators are the ones that Signed the Letter. Tell me how well do you think do you think Moderate Americans are going to receive Those 47 (and they have to have moderate Americans to win a election) when anyone that runs against them only has to hang a few of these around election Day.

        1. FloridaBoyee says

          I believe the ONLY TRAITORS are the other 53 Senators who did NOT sign this letter! They LET Iran know that Obama could not make deals without their approval!! They are Patriots, not Traitors!!

          1. Mark Lahti says

            Dear FloridaBoyee: You are exactly right. However, you must know by now that it is a total waste of time to bandy words with a liberal. They will come at you out of every other direction than the reality of what is going on in the world today. They have bought into the Obamanation mentality of socialist government. They have no argument to defend the constitutional violations of this POS POTUS. So, with no real, valid points to discuss they use name calling, unrelated items from the past, and any other means to try and ridicule, put down, or insult anybody that disagrees with their King. Never mind the basic facts of the situation. The fact that this POS has violated the constitution on most of his executive orders. The fact that he has placed all these czars in place that bow to his every dictate. The fact that almost every action he has taken has placed this country further and further from the republic that the founders intended. The fact that the further down the sewer we sink the more they flounder in trying to justify the increasingly obvious socialist agenda this POS is pushing us towards. So, to try to argue with these liberals is an exercise in futility. They are so committed to the lie that they no longer have the common sense to see how corrupt things have gotten.

          2. Deby says

            Mark, are you reading my mind?:) you are spot on in all your posts!

          3. FloridaBoyee says

            Mark, you are definitely right on spot! I really try not to argue with these people because they do not even see it!! WHY would congress allow anyone to seal all of their transcripts and past and run for even the County Dog Catcher? I think he became a Senator and got the low down on ALL of these people, knowing that he could use it for HIS benefit one day and he has USED for his benefit! We have NOT seen anything yet!! I do not want him impeached, I want him thrown out of the country!!Let him go back to Kenya!! And without our tax money as his benefits!!

          4. Rick Rogers says

            Foridaboyee??? and after that vebal Fart you think YOU have Common Sense??

          5. Rick Rogers says

            not going to argue but Only have one thing to respond.. They Violated the LOGAN ACT which is a Federal Crime and need to answer for what they did.

    2. Andrew Owens says

      They need to stop his lawlessness, He is not above our laws. Congress and the Judges need to make sure he abides to the laws of this Nation.

    3. Evan says

      Not only with the deal with Iran, but his other
      policies against America! Impeach obama and
      be done with him!

      1. Rick Rogers says

        You know I wish they would just go head and try it. . You see there is this one piece of history you might have forgotten. In the two times it was tried the President that was impeached came out Stronger then when he when in after beating the Impeachment. You don’t have 2/3 that are required. You will never get the 2/3 required and without that using that “impeach him” statement is just so much hot air. Now Nixon. They had the 2/3 on his ass and he was going down which is why he resigned. You want to all but Guarantee a Democratic win in 2016 go head Impeach him. .and you will get the result that Every Democrat that is registered to vote will come out in 2016 to make sure they understand they disapprove of those actions. In 1972 I was not yet able to vote but I did work of the Nixon Campaign putting fliers in neighborhood paper boxes I was all of 14 and believe Nixon claims. by 1974 my 16 year old self was disgusted with the actions he took to win that election and when Ford Pardon him without making him answer for his crimes that turned me off on republicans. I wanted the Best Man for the Job. Not the lesser of two Evils. Since that time I have never let me vote be decided by a party Label. And if the Republicans were to come up with someone Like Colin Powell or someone that is not owned by Big oil or the Christian Right then I would listen to what they have to say. I don’t Align with the Far Right or the Far left.. I am here in the MIDDLE. and I really do want someone to run that speaks to me not the Fringe.

        1. Evan says

          I know exactly what you are saying and it is true! We have almost
          two more years of this idiot and he is going to ramp up his destruction
          of this country! Much more damage will be done! I just think is is better
          if he was gone, one way or the other, if you know what I mean!

          1. Rick Rogers says

            Evan.. I thank you for your honest response its hard to get them if you don’t want to toe the Party line on this website. There are to many idiots that like to name call on here. (Yes MAHB001 I am talking about you). But I don’t agree with you about your conclusions. That does not mean I think your disloyal or un-American just that we don’t agree. I won’t try and change your mind because your entitled to your opinions. As for mine the last two presidential elections were very clear to me because of the actions and words of the GOP Candidates. The John McCain that run in 2008 was not the John McCain I had respect for. And with the fact he was 72 at the time it was not against the odds that he could have died in office. It was unthinkable to me that I could cast a vote that would put Sarah Palin a heartbeat from the Oval office. In 2012 they chose another “winner” in Mitt Romney. This was a man that had personally been responsible for the loss of more jobs then anyone they have ever nominated for President before. And then you had his Running mate stand up in front of his parties convention and blame the President for a Factory that closed 2 years before 2008 while he was only just a Senator. That was an out and out lie. As for me. I don’t believe in “Trickle Down” Its more like Trickle on. We have had more of the Trickle Down tax cuts under Reagan and both Bush’s and yet the middle class has lost Ground just about every year. So how long do we have to wait for the Trickle to reach the middle. The GOP wants to Privatize the US POST OFFICE. And they are doing their best to paint it as a money losing government agency. The Truth of the matter is that the US Post office Paid for itself up until the point that the GOP House and Senate got Bush to sign a bill that said that the Post Office had to Fund their Pension Program 75 years out in only 10 years. So they are telling them you have to fund the pension plan of people that have not even been born yet in case they come to work for the postal Service. That’s when the Department started showing a money Drain. And the sponsor of that Bill Darrall Issa. A man that has United Parcel post as one of his Biggest Campaign Donors.

        2. ladyjustsaying says

          Rick…Your views in all your comments are so disturbing, i have a great idea! i think you should go over to Iran, all the Islamic Countries where Isis is burning people alive, selling young babies for sex slaves, killing Christians, beheading moms and dads, burning cities. Then come back and tell us how wonderful your trip went for you, Ho.. by the way your King HBO CAN NOT EVEN call this Terrorist or war. I hope you do not have kids! that are in school, because of all the illegals, your kid is going to get sick from some illness the USA got rid of 2 century ago. And lets not forget the wonderful Heath care your beloved Pres plan for us the people, that Polosi said thy have to past it to understand what was in it,Designed by a Creep who called all of you who voted for this Liar o stupid.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            So you have no problem Demonizing an entire People because of fanatics. Want to be sure I understand what your saying because that is what it sounds like. The People of Iran were conquered by the Republican Guard just go back and look at the Riots they had a few years ago when that Nutjob Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stole the election..(wish we had had that sort of protest when Bush stole the first one. Oh and one thing Ladyjustsaying.. IRAN hates ISIS.. They want to destroy them as much as we do but We won’t take their help.

    4. Rick Rogers says

      Actually those 47 are the enemy.. Its amazing how the We the People Petition site got the 100k signatures for a Response in LESS then 24 hours. But then the Republican Party has a history of trying to do END RUNS around foreign policy.. Reagan and Iran Contra, Nixon and South Vietnam before he was elected. The Speaker of the House inviting a foreign Leader to Trash A US presidents policy on Capital Hill. But here is the truly side splitting thing. The 47 actually think they will have a Republican in the White House after 2016… That might be true. As long as the Republican does not mind working in the White House Kitchen and making the beds for the Democratic President.

      1. Brenda says

        There are indeed traitors in Washington D.C., but they do not include these 47 Senators. A traitors.
        The Constitution of the United States, Article III, Section 3. “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

    5. Rick Rogers says

      Russ.. Yes they are the enemy.. But so was Germany, Japan, Spain, Mexico, France (for a short time) Iraqi, Egypt, Jordan, and on the flip side Iran was once one of our strongest allies. We have not had relations with Iran since the fall of the Shah. The Shah was an ally but we should be ashamed that he was. His secret Police committed just as many Atrocities and any of Saddams Henchmen did. During the Iraq-Iran War the US openly supported the Saddam with money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq. There are two ways to change an enemy to a friend. Blast them off the face of the earth with loses in your own Military (which will turn your own Citizens against you if you do it long enough) or Try and find common ground to work out an agreement. We have tried the hostile approach since 1979 with Iran and it has not done anything. How about we give something a else a try instead. We have this one HUGH Carrot to offer them Since Nov 14, 1979 the US has Frozen Iranian Assets in this country. We have given back some of them but not all.

  5. farrightwing says

    Dittos MAHB001, Hamilton, Len Tippett, Russ,

  6. Curtis Jones Jr says

    America is NOT divide, WE do not trust obama and his administation. The only people divide are the Demon crats and the Republicans in Washington, both are worthless. If they had any sense or balls they would impeach obama and have a trial, a rope and a tree. for treason

    1. MAHB001 says

      Both parties have been taken over by Alinsky Radicals.,
      Alinsky Radicals are bent on the destruction of America’s Capitalism.

    2. Evan says

      Great plan!

  7. MILES E DRAKE says

    This was not a covert communication but an open letter, the sort of thing that the left has been publishing on this or that contentious topic since the halcyon days of Lenin and Stalin. The Sunday New York Times is full of these, often addressed to the leaders of hostile countries and pointing out that the undersigned deplore U.S. policy toward them, sometimes telling the leaders of friendly countries that the undersigned hate tem and oppose U.S. friendship with them. Progressives from Jane Fonda to Nancy Pelosi have publicly spoken against the U.S., often on enemy territory, and Teddy Kennedy went so far as to solicit Soviet assistance against Ronald Reagan before the 1984 election. The letter affair coincides very conveniently with the discovery that the democrat’s president-in-waiting may have distributed classified information on the internet, and might in fact have done so for cash. In addition, the sudden appearance of hundreds of thousands of signatures on petitions demanding the prosecution of Republican senators for treason, and the regime’s statement that it will respond in some way to these, are a very chilling suggestion that a leader who believes he can legislate and tax by presidential order, appoint officials without Senate confirmation, annul parts of the Bill of Rights by regulation and conclude treaties without Congress intends to suppress the legislative branch and repress his opposition.

    1. Herb Branch says

      Miles, hello! I agree with all your main points. Well stated argument, although you had a couple of typos.

      I find that I have diffficulty with my tablet when small typos pop up due to failure of device to sense some of the touch-pad “key strokes.” Or, the tablet may sense a small touch on the edge or corner of the key next to the one you are trying to touch.

      Anyway, you made a great argument about this issue.

    2. grunion says

      I have not heard of these petitions but if the dems want to get in a petition slugfest, let’s go. As the larders get more bare and purchasing power falls, people get twitchy and not in a good way at all. As far as I am concerned, those 47 Senators are now a protected species.

      1. Francie26 says

        These American senators seem to be all that is standing between American citizens and Obama’s gift of our country to the Iranian Ayatollah. Freedom must be fought for, over and over, however many times it takes. It is a very rare condition for any country, let alone in quite the same way we have them. We live in extremely fortunate times and in an extremely fortunate place. However, we must stand ready to fight to keep these freedoms since there are those who resent them and would gladly take them from us. This group apparently includes Obama who seems to be quite willing to give our country away to those who have no interest in our freedom. I think it’s time for impeachment.

  8. Tricia Harris says

    Personally I am thrilled that we now have members of congress with some BACKLBONE!! It’s about darn time! If Obama had not committed so many acts of treason, this letter would have been unnecessary, but when we have a traitor occupying the White House, it’s past time that the Leaders of Congress find their collective spines and DO SOMETHING to stop Obama. This letter is NOT treasonous, Obama’s actions on many cases ARE certainly treason!

    1. Mark Lahti says

      Do something? I would be awestruck if they really did something. This letter will go nowhere and soon become something akin to a memory moment. Like, remember when those senators wrote and signed that letter to Iran? What happened to that? That’s all that is going to happen. Do something? I would love to see somebody do something.

  9. dosadoe says

    Everyone of the Senators and other signatories were within their First Amendments Rights to have their views known to the Iranian Mullahs and the rest of the world! The Liberal/Socialist Democrats craft their laws and their agreements with Terrorist nations in secret and Americans are supposed to wait until the deal is completed to find out what was in it? Never again!

  10. Evan says

    What do you expect from the lying homosexual?

  11. Namdoc68 says

    The only treasonous component of this “letter-gate” is that not all of the 54 Republican senators signed the letter. And more to the point, that not 1 of the Democrat senators signed the letter.

  12. Miss Mellie says

    It wasn’t treason though when air-head Nancy Pelosi met with the Arab foreign minister during the Bush administration.

  13. R Jeffrey Savlov says

    The crafting of this letter was important and not what our partisan media tried to convince us of. It informs the government of the largest supporter of terror in the world that any agreement by the president is only a letter of intent until ratified by congress. The constitution gives no unilateral power to on member of government over another.

  14. Bob Stewart says

    Don’t be so blind. The president is getting exactly what he wants. He has a foreign policy that harms America and abandons our allies. His unconstitutional presidential orders further increase our national debt and exposes our country to illegal aliens crushing the national economy. His programs, built on lies, destroy the fabric of American life. His actions, or lack of action has turned our schools into liberal brain washing factories, condoned drug use and made our streets havens for thugs while he blames decent Americans who try to protect their families and possessions. He is an embarrassment to all thinking people who believe in America still.

    1. grunion says

      If you had any interest in your contentions being acted upon, you blew it with your first line. This is why I worry we will NOT act as one, as a Nation of patriots. Your post is useless as it is comprised solely of complaints. That is a liberal hallmark.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        And you are doing what here? Take a good look in the mirror and then re-read your own post. That’s all that ever gets done on social media sites. This crap is no better than the house and senate combined. Nobody has done anything worthy of praise against this POS POTUS. I too am totally frustrated and mad. Yes, mad, not angry or pissed off. I’m boiling mad about what this country is turning into. And yes, the inaction of the congress, the inaction of all patriots, the inaction of the majority of people in this country that believe that the POTUS has grossly and grievously overreached, overacted, and exceeded his authority on just about every issue has pissed off many patriots. Until we organize, set an agenda, and take some action, this is all just a free speech (as long as it still lasts) forum. If I thought for one minute that I could get enough people to organize and start such an action, I would do it in a heartbeat. The problem is that a lifetime of the good life here in America has made us all complacent, lazy, and to interested in our own daily existence. We as a country, just like Germany and the others that were taken over by these same type of methods, won’t act until we are totally under the thumb of a dictator. When it gets to the point that O calls for martial law and does away with elections that we will want to organize. I fear that at that point it will be to late. I see it every day on these sites that people want to take action, or more often, that people want somebody else to take action. Sorry fellow patriots, it is all just a pipe dream. Talk, talk, talk. I am to old and disabled to do it. Makes me mad. The people that are young and healthy enough are already to indoctrinated in the socialist mentality to think there is anything wrong. I truly fear for the future of this country. But I also fear that the only place that will hear anything approaching taking such action is the speech that takes place here in these social media forums. To bad. It isn’t going to get done here.

        1. grunion says

          For every accusing finger you point, 10 are pointing right back at you. I can tell you are a bitter, lonely, little man without any effort.

          1. Mark Lahti says

            Oh contrare my little man/woman/whatever. You completely substantiate my point. No real argument just more name calling. It must be hell in your head to have no real argument to defend your POS POTUS anymore and have to resort to name calling and trying to belittle anyone who disagrees with your perspective. Live long and prosper desperate liberal.

        2. Deby says

          wow, couldn’t have said it better-but I have to have HOPE that the 2016 election will be the beginning of getting our country back (flaws and all) from the progressive, communistic road it is currently on. With all the crap this administration has pulled in the last 6+ years, it is hard to imagine how much more this nation can endure without a massive revolt. don’t want to see that happen-but it appears to be where this train wreck of a president is heading.

  15. MAHB001 says

    It seems the Alinsky Radical has pissed off at least 47 Americans.
    You NEVER want to bet against a pissed off American!
    And Thank God for Pissed off Americans.

    1. Rick Rogers says

      Your Right about Pissed off Americans but I think your going to be in for a Shock when the First polls are run asking people if they agree that the 47 should have sent the Letter. Was listing to a Republican Talk Radio show on drive home yesterday (you know the “KNOW YOUR ENEMY” Thing) and out of all the calls (there were about 40 over the 2 hours) only 2 said the letter was a good thing. So I am real curious to see what Gallup and AP come up with when they run their polls and believe me they will run polls.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Polls are manipulated lies.
        Not facts…
        Anybody quoting a poll is just trying to manipulate something without facts.

        1. Rick Rogers says

          You should really be more concerned about the Poll that is stick up your anal Region

    2. John Driggers says

      is that kinda like the Joke where the ISIS leader suddenly dies and goes to their heaven where 40 virgins are to be waiting for him and finds 40 big pissed off men waiting in line and one by one they beat the living daylights out of him, and then he meets his God and he says “Sheesh, I said 40 Virginians you idiot, 40 Virginians!”

      1. MAHB001 says

        A great joke, thanks
        It is time to get pissed off and scream:
        I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!

  16. Stevon f. Nutt says

    Forty Seven Patriots send letter to offset the actions of one person who has not ever had the best interest of this country at heart!

    1. Rick Rogers says

      Yep.. Forty Seven dummies decided they were going to Side with HARDLINE Iranians government Officals. Like the company they keep.

      1. Stevon f. Nutt says

        Congress has been trying to explain to Obama for over six years how the Constitution works and have not been successful. Who’s your dummy now! They thought they had a better chance of explaining it to the Iranians. Apparently you agree with Obama the making it easier for Iran to have the Bomb is a good thing. You just can’t be that stupid!

        1. Rick Rogers says

          Stevon unless your psychic ( and if you are want to speak with you about powerball numbers) there is no way to know what is in the Agreement it negotiated by 7 different Countries? There is not a word in it yet that has been set in stone. Or are you just one of those ones that wants to say “Screw it lets bomb them” That’s going to be a great Idea? of course you can’t do anything with out boots on the ground so you ready to enlist for that job. You think you saw protest during the Vietnam you haven’t seen anything yet. I am not going to allow my kids to go fight in another war from some oil company. Oh and please don’t give me wrong the Iranians don’t give a damn about how our Constitution works. all they are care about is will the agreement hold up under international law. That being said THE JOB of the Senate is to Advise and Consent.. NOT WRITE DICTATE< ADVISE and Consent. As the head of State the President can sign an Executive agreement just like all the presidents before him have done and its binding under international law. Oh and just to be clear The Senate does not ratify treaties—the Senate approves or rejects a resolution of ratification. If the resolution passes, then ratification takes place when the instruments of ratification are formally exchanged between the United States and the foreign power(s).


          1. Stevon f. Nutt says

            If this blows up in your face I certainly hope that you and yours are the first to pay for your ignorance. International Law does not trump our Constitution!

          2. Rick Rogers says

            So Glad you agree with me because in fact There is a section of the constitution that DOES Deal with Treaties and International Law. Treaties are International Law quoted frome article Six Clause 2 of the US Constitution.

            “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

            Please not it does say SHALL BE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

          3. Stevon f. Nutt says

            Except that a President cannot make a Treaty by Himself. Only after being passed by congress does it become a treaty. Until then it is just an Executive order that can be nullified by the next president! Presidents are not Kings and are not likely to become so even thought that may be the Left’s Fantasy!

          4. Rick Rogers says

            ok lets trying this again Stevon.. CONGRESS DOES NOT NEGOTIATE TREATYS. THEY HAVE NO PART in FOREIGN POLICY.. Accourting to the Senates on Official Website “The Constitution gives to the Senate the sole power to approve, by a two-thirds vote, treaties negotiated by the executive branch. The Senate does not ratify treaties. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification. The Senate of the First Congress set the precedent for how it would handle treaty consideration. When President George Washington visited the Senate Chamber in August 1789 to seek advice and consent on a pending treaty, he became frustrated when the senators referred the treaty to committee for further discussion. Another 130 years would pass before another president of the United States personally delivered a treaty to the Senate. On July 10, 1919, President Woodrow Wilson asked for a quick consent to the Treaty of Versailles. ”


          5. Stevon f. Nutt says

            OK! Lets try this again. The President cannot make a treaty without it passing the Senate. He can use Executive action to come up with an agreement but if it is not ratified by the Senate it remains an executive action and can be nullified by the next President!

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Not going to argue about ratifying but they only ratify treaties they DON”T WRITE them. And they don’t send Letters to a Government that has a group of Hardliners that are looking for a reason to say no. We have the moderates at the table now. This letter not only undercut the President but it undercut the very people we have been trying to get to speak with us since 1980’s. This group of 47 “gentleman” is playing politics with a Dangerous issue. This letter could very well cause Iran to say “the hell with it they can’t work with each other so how the hell are they going to work with us.” Besides there is the is also the elephant in the room that no one ever brings up . The Iranians know if they did actually produce a bomb We could turn their Country into a Molten Mass of Rock in about 24 hours. Even the Extremist are not that stupid. Sure those Extremist Are all for getting their Followers to blow themselves up with Bomb vest but you think they are ready to catch so Nuclear Rain on the roof tops of their houses. ITs like The GOP Senators that always seem to stand up talking about going to war. How quick would they be if they knew that their Children and Grandchildren are going to be in the First wave of boots on the Ground? NOT MANY.

          7. Stevon f. Nutt says

            I thought this was where you were heading! Some of those Moderates as you call them did themselves go to countries that we considered enemies during Republican administrations to aid and abet those nations and people like you called it standing up for their principles. Amazing that republicans do the same thing you call it Treason and Dangerous. The Left is like a Skunk and never smells its own reek!

          8. Rick Rogers says

            It does not change the Fact that 47 People what were elected to do a specific Job in Senate of the United States decided it was ok for them to try and Derail a Sitting Presidents Foreign Policy and they went so far as to allow the Leader of a Foreign country to stand in the Capital Building of this Country and Trash that same President. all because they don’t happen to like him. The True Karma is that Foreign leader is about to lose his Election and then will be out of power. You are aware that come 2016 NONE of this well be forgotten by the 42 Million Registered Democrats and a good portion of the 34 million independents. I can honest say I have a feeling that the Next REPUBLICAN President has not even been born yet.

          9. Stevon f. Nutt says

            And of course, Obama sending His operatives to Israel on the Taxpayers Dime to try and influence the outcome of their elections is just business as usual for your Leftest mindset. A lot of people are going to remember what is going on now but you leftest Democrats count of the 5 D’s of Liberalism, Deceive, Distort, Deflect, Destroy and Deny to see them through and that is your parties and Hilliary’s Platform for the upcoming elections!

          10. Rick Rogers says

            Ok Would you people please make up your mind Your either saying President Obama is Incompetent or that his is THIS Master Political Puppet master that is so powerful he can even control elections in other countries. how about making up your mind. IT has been good for a few laughs over on the facebook group we use to monitor the truly ridiculous comments of the Tea Party and their Supports so thanks for that.

          11. Stevon f. Nutt says

            I have to say goodby. Left wing trolls cannot be changed. I parting, let me make my opinion of Obama so clear that even someone of your density may understand. He is a lying piece of Human Feces who is trying to destroy this country. Everything He has done on foreign policy has been to straighten our enemies and weaken our Allies. Everything He has done Domestically has served to weaken our Constitutional rights and undermine our basic freedoms. His use of smoke and mirrors will be historically legendary. Only the fact that He will go down as having failed to destroy this Nation will make Him a laughing stock. There, is that plain enough.Goodby!

          12. Rick Rogers says

            Wow if I had known all I had to do to get read of Stevon F. Nutt (Perfect name by the way) was to flush the toilet I would have done it ages ago.

          13. Stevon f. Nutt says

            If you see me in person you will rue the day you screwed with my name. When it flushed how fast did you go down because that is what Feces like you does!

          14. Rick Rogers says

            Only thing I will ever Rue is the time I wasted trying to have an intelligent discussion with you. I am sorry I exceeded your mental capacity.

          15. Stevon f. Nutt says

            I see you headed for the gutter as soon as your lying circuits became overloaded. I have a Hobby Farm so I’m used to cleaning manure off my Boots and I will scrape you off as soon as I am done. If you want to insinuate that you are somehow more intelligent by being a Leftest, go for it. Who know, it might even get you an increase in your Welfare check but i doubt it!

          16. Rick Rogers says

            No Stevon I when for the gutter when you thought it was ok to issue a hollow threat against me. I am tired of Fake Christians claiming they are being Persecuted against when in most cases the next words out of their mouth are them persecuting other. And no I don’t thing I am more intelligent because of my views. I don’t believe most people on here don’t realize how hypocritical their words are. Want an example. on a face book page I follow there was a army vet. that said he has served his country for twenty years and he was a Christian. He could not stand the fact that his town allowed a Mosque to be build there and how much he hated Muslims. And he did not realize he was labeling himself a fake Christian when he did it.

          17. Stevon f. Nutt says

            I issued no hollow threat. You on the other hand are relying on the 5 D’s of Liberalism to try and win your points, Deceive Distort Deflect Destroy and Deny!

          18. Rick Rogers says

            You can’t stand when we beat you with proven facts. Fact one. .Republican Polices are bad for the Country.. Fact 2 The Republicans are Lousy at predicting the future of the Economy. You don’t have to believe. I let their own Word Convict them.

            Senator Mike Lee.. “Gas will hit 6.60 a gallon if Obama is elected ” http://article.wn.com/view/2012/03/07/Mike_Lee_Utah_Senator_Warns_President_Obamas_Reelection_Mean/

            Filled up this morning and Paid 2.07 a gallon

            Congressman Pete Sessions “Said the President’s Stimulus Polices with Diminish Jobs in America” But then he started making request for Stimulus Funds for his district. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Pete+Sessions+Stimulus+would+diminsh+Jobs&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=74DEEF2B5C24A35AD27774DEEF2B5C24A35AD277

            Mitt Romney in the 2012 election claimed he could bring unemployment Down To 6 percent by 2016. and the Fox and Friends Host Said the following..

            Well its 2015 and The unemployment Rate that was reported in Jan 2015 was 5.5 percent.. Oh and the fox and friends host said 6.0 would be pretty good.
            Those are lies Those are Facts and there are a hundred more just like them.
            SO let me ask you this.. Since Republican economic Planning has been about Trickle down for the last 30 or so years.. WHEN IS THE TRICKLE GOING TO REACH THE MIDDLE CLASS. To me it looks like the Those at the Top of the Trickle are just getting Bigger buckets to catch the flow in so none is reaching


            The stupid outrageous Claims are getting so bad even GOP politicans can’t help but winch when they hear some.. Watch Santorums face on this .


          19. Stevon f. Nutt says

            And members of the Leftest ruling class are protectors of women’s rights and think that sharia Law would be good for this country. Like you their thinking is at odds with the facts. Just because you say it will not make it true. The number of unemployed per household is far greater now then it was before Obama’s election. You can Cherry pick statements and facts to try and prove your point but you will still be what Gruber said you are, Stupid!

          20. Rick Rogers says

            You know its really strange.. Sharia Law is Religious Law.. OF ANY SORT.. and its not Democrats I see out there saying they want to Return to the Law of the bible. It CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS. and there are more quotes on that topic from them then I can even begin to list.

          21. Stevon f. Nutt says

            Deflect,Deny, Distort, Deceive, Well you used four out of five. You are a true Liberal!

          22. Rick Rogers says

            Thank you Stevon.. You see Liberals got women the Right to vote, Liberals were the reason there was a Revolution in 1776, Liberals is why Elderly people have social Security in their own age., Liberals were responsible for the 8 hour workday, overtime pay and The Federal Minimum wage. Liberals were responsible for the G.I. Bill of Rights? (You did not happen to be in the military did you) and Liberals were responsible for the VA program that let service men own their own homes. Liberals were Responsible for the Civil Rights act and yes Southern Democrats were against that but Its ok because most of them are either died (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms) or are now members of the Republican Party. Liberals were responsible for Medicare for retirees, The Clean Water Act, the Family and Medical Leave Act, The Rural Electrification Act which was what got power to most of the people that live in rural Areas. Liberals Were responsible for The student loan programs that allowed millions to afford College. And Liberals That Supported the Union and were Anti Slavery Helped a Moderate Republican Save the Union. So Stevon here is one thing that ties all these together.. In every age these Items Past there was one thing that was Constent.. CONSERVATIVES OPPOSED THEM ALL and history as proved them wrong time after time. Must be a bitch to be on the side that is wrong the Majority of the time. (there I just admitted you have a majority on SOMETHING)

          23. Stevon f. Nutt says

            Gruber is right. You are blind deaf and dumb as any Democratic run city in the country will bare testimony to. Next you are going to tell me that on the sevent day they rested. Oops, Liberals do not believe in god!

          24. Rick Rogers says

            See there you go proving your head is up your ass again. Well we have then You do qualify for the 4 D’s for Republicans, Dumb, Dumber, Dumbest, Died.

          25. Stevon f. Nutt says

            Deflect, Distort and Deceive, hold to the Liberal script. Never had my head up my ass. did not know it was possible but it explains a lot about where you get your facts!

          26. Rick Rogers says

            You would not know a true fact if it slapped you in the Fricking face

          27. Stevon f. Nutt says

            I do not use my face for that but if it is up your ally enjoy. I will not judge your preference for using your face as your Virgina but you are starting to paint a picture of the real you!

  17. George Cahonna says

    Our only solution saving the United States is to impeach Odumba. With our lack luster GOP, I do not think it will happen. Holder, Sharpton, Reid, & Hickory should be sitting in jail today! It’s not happening. Our only option..We the People must Unite & push all the Rhino’s out of office, both sides of the aisle!

  18. CCblogging says

    Well now, lets put this in proper perception. America hater Barack Hussein Obama has bypassed Congress many times to get his tyrannical way. Now Congress is going around the WH Muslim promoter. Seems fair to me. Also considering the fact that Obama is guaranteeing that Iran gets nukes, it was necessary.

    1. grunion says

      Let’s hope it is a developing trend.

      1. CCblogging says

        Yes, let’s hope for that. Praying for America will also help.

  19. Joyce says

    I think the Senate would have been remiss to have not written this letter. It’s necessary to help other countries understand our constitutional system, that we have 3 co-equal branches of Government and a treaty with the President only would no longer be valid when that one person representing that branch is no longer in office. Sorry that the other remaining members in the Senate didn’t understand this.

  20. W. Coyote says

    The author of this unsigned article does not know the details of the negotiations with Iran, yet he is cocksure that it “could jeopardize the Middle East, Israel, and American security”. He goes on to remind us that “Iran is one of those enemies”. I just wish this author could have told that to Ronald Reagan when he sold TOW missiles to that enemy.

    1. Mark Lahti says

      Right on. It would have been so fantastic if he had the ability to time travel and know the outcome of his actions. I am so sick and tired of people such as yourself that come on these sites and bash anything that goes on with no other ammunition than “somebody else did something”. Boring!!!!!!! Get a life already and try to stay in today and deal with the reality of whats going on in the present.

      1. W. Coyote says

        Mark- What I find boring is an author who does not identify himself and slings out unsubstantiated allegations. The article was simply an excuse to “bash anything” associated with President Obama” and give a large number of commenters something to pile on. “The president thinks he can change the world through appeasement and apologies”.. What appeasement? What apologies? Since he can’t back up those claims, it’s probably a smart thing that he left the article unsigned.

    2. headonstraight says

      Oh, but Reagan had top-flight advice from that meddlesome American patriot and Congressionally-certified LIAR, Ollie North, who remains a hero to many deluded sheeple on the extreme right. One can hardly blame the Gipper for failing to recognize a slippery weasel like North, who was only doing what was necessary to rescue an independent Latin American nation from its popularly-elected leadership.

      1. W. Coyote says

        headonstraight- I agree with you about Oliver North’s character. But he explained the whole tactic of “plausible deniability” in great detail in testimony before Congress. For one thing, they were careful to put very little in writing. Caspar Weinberger did say something like “If we are found out, we could all go to prison”. It’s clear to me that Reagan knew of the whole plan and North was a loyal foot soldier. If Reagan didn’t know, then that raises more troubling questions about who was really in charge of our country at the time.

  21. Jeffrey Cahoon says

    Obuma is a treasonous criminal! If the Republican signers of this letter back down, they are cowards and do not deserve their seat! This bastard president, is playing with the lives of the American people like it was a game! THIS IS NOT A GAME! If something is not done, this know nothing president is going to launch WWIII. This child in a canny shop, MUST BE STOPPED! It does not matter who votes for who, or what party is pissed off at the other anymore! What matters is the existence of the human populace! If this madman is allowed to continue on his present path, he and all those ass kissers who blindly do his bidding, will be the sorriest bunch of idiots and fools that, what’s left of this planet, will ever have the opportunity to see! HE MUST BE MADE TO LEAVE OFFICE, AND MUST BE MADE TO DO SO….RIGHT NOW!!!

    1. Mark Lahti says

      Talk, talk, and more talk. Sorry my friend. The only place our frustration and anger will do is to the pages of these social media sites. To do anything against this dictator will take action. And although I totally agree with you, action will never take place until it is to late. We, the patriots of America will not take action until it is to late. We will exercise our first amendment right and our second amendment right. But I seriously doubt that any action to stop this mad man will require ACTION. Talk is not going to get us anywhere. The more scary point is that this POS POTUS knows this. Just like Hitler he has charmed his way into the position and bamboozled the people to the point that everybody else is afraid or to lazy to take action. So, all we will see is more talk and no action until it is to late. We will, unfortunately, become the rebels of the future. Trying to overthrow an illegal and tyrannical government.

  22. Robyn Goldstein says

    Plato knew of the beginnings of discipline with its prohibition of fighting out of line of authority (legit. power to command & duty to obey. He did not know of its true value to democracy & to continuity of democratic institutions. I doubt even the extreme wealthy want that. You don’t have to like the president to honor the fact he was elected and fairly. He is the 1st president I have liked since Kennedy.

    1. Mark Lahti says

      It must really be nice to live in your head. To totally not be aware of all that goes on around you. To live in such a state of awe for this countries leader. It sure would be nice to escape reality like that. Oh well, such is the life of a liberal. Hang in there honey. I’m sure you will find it quite pleasant to be so ignorant. I do fear that when or if you ever do wake up that the shock might kill you.

      1. headonstraight says

        Escape from reality? THAT, old son, is the best capsule description of the wingnut mind-set I have yet seen. When you and others finally rehabilitate yourselves from your devotion to the vast mythology you have attached to the President, you will then be able to re-enter the Land of Reality.

        1. Mark Lahti says

          Keep on believing the lie and then calling names. Feel sorry for you too.

    2. Deby says

      oh boy, if that is the case-please stop voting. NO WAY in hell was he elected “fairly” Not ONE thing he has done since elected has been fair for the hard-working Americans who did NOT vote this POS in office. your (wanna-be) philanthropic musings are tedious and irrelevant to this discussion

      1. Mark Lahti says

        They just keep on keeping on don’t they Deby. I really don’t know why I stay here in this site. I guess being retired and disabled gives me to much free time to waste. I really need to find more things to do out there. I see many of my friends at the VA doing volunteer work. That would be truly so much more rewarding than helping other conservatives understand the futile nature of trying to argue with a committed liberal. They are unfortunately lost to the land of reality. Robyn and Ricky and even headonstraight (such a misnomer) have bought into the lie so thoroughly that reason is beyond possibility. Such is life. There are those small percentage of the population with the common sense, knowledge, and intellect to understand what’s going on. Yet we have to contend with the ravings of the rest of those out there who just don’t have the capacity to comprehend reality. Keep on doing what you do Deby. I, for one, have had enough for today. I do have a few things to do today and it is best that I get on with them.

  23. cal3301 says

    Hayes, during the panel segment on the March 10 Special Report with Bret Baier
    on FNC:

    The whole idea that this is controversial is preposterous on its face. Republicans
    write this letter, basically re-stating their long-held views that they’re not
    going to be bound, as Members of Congress, as Senators, by an agreement that
    President Obama doesn’t include them in. That’s stating the obvious. There’s
    absolutely nothing wrong with that. And the idea that this is somehow new or
    this is ending the idea that foreign policy stops at the water’s edge, is
    totally preposterous.

    Remember, the number two Democrat in the House of Representatives flew to Baghdad – we
    later found out on a trip financed by Saddam Hussein — appeared on Sunday shows
    from Baghdad – this is David Bonior – to trash the Bush administration and the
    arguments they were making about Iraq.

    In 2007, Nancy Pelosi went to Damascus, despite the Bush administration’s request
    that she not to do that, embraced Bashar Assad and basically got his back,
    suggested he wanted peace with Israel.

    In 1990 – go back to the Gulf War – Jimmy Carter wrote a secret letter to members
    of the U.N. Security Council telling them that they should oppose the resolution
    that George H. Bush was pushing that would have led to war in Iraq.

    The idea that this is unprecedented or new is preposterous. The only thing wrong
    with the letter is it should have come earlier and should have included
    references to Iran and al Qaeda.

  24. hrandym says

    Obama is worse than you describe. He has done immense damage to our justice system, health care system, immigration system, power systems, environmental regulatory systems, military and intelligence systems, you name it. America is weaker than since before WWII. Included in the damage is the morale of the people who actually make this Nation work. One could become quickly exhausted exposing all of the areas in which Obama’s policies have disabled and weakened America. For a child, he would have a hard time doing much worse, or if we measure by his objectives, much better.

  25. Robyn Goldstein says

    This whole thing reminds me of the story of Theseus. Sent his son to live with grandparents til mature enough to fight battles. He came home and found out there was a minotaur (monster) harrassing people. He asked to fight and father agreed, but requested that he turn the sails from black to white if he was successful. He did succeed in killing monster off, but did not
    “quite remember” to change the sails from black to white because he wanted to show his father that he was “a man.” His father killed himself. u 47- grow up!

  26. molly kennedy says

    We can’t impeach him, we will be called racists, the minorities will start another civil war at the thought of losing their “freebies”. They cannot work but they can burn and loot. Bama has it down pat “divide and conquer”

    1. Robyn Goldstein says

      I don’t understand all the vitriol comments. I have disliked every president since Kennedy til now. Yet, I accept the situation as we all should do in a democracy; If u are a republican, aren’t u better off trying to win votes by policies that are really attractive to conservative blacks and other minority group members. What is this really about. there is a passage in the Protesant Ethic by Max Weber that describes the attitude towards people perceived as weak and therefore untrustworthy as blacks have been. The truth is that

      1. Robyn Goldstein says

        there is so much more to this story and one bit is that such thinking misrepresents us i.e., all of us who once were minorities. ..like perhaps Abe Lincoln.

  27. headonstraight says

    Those who followed this issue in the media, as I have, can find some wry amusement in the very scholarly and correct analysis of the matter by Iran’s very well educated (PhD) and well-spoken foreign minister:

    Asked about the open letter of 47 US Senators to Iranian leaders, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Javad Zarif, said, “In our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.”

    Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.

    Foreign Minister Zarif added, “I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.”

    The Iranian Foreign Minister added that “change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Iran’s peaceful nuclear program.”

    “I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with ‘the stroke of a pen,’ as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law.”

    1. Robyn Goldstein says

      I thought that a college education provided an eductation. I guess not so much. My colleagues in sociology should learn from this their true value to the university system.

      1. headonstraight says

        Are your comments always this dense and arcane? Did not your education encourage you to state your case plainly and directly?

    2. grunion says

      I read it and one thing did jump out. His consternation lies in the fact that the First Amendment allows for the freedom to carry out such actions (Congressional letter to iran) and his surprise tells me there is a dearth of liberty in ‘ol iran town. I feel about iran like my WW II vet father feels about russia. It is not liberal warm and fuzzy.

    3. hrandym says

      Yes, I believe the minister did a masterful job of promoting the Iranian side of the issue. We’re talking nuclear weapons here, and that is no joking matter. It seems some 57 of our senators just may understand that. It doesn’t seem Mr. Obama does, however, unless he of course agrees with the Muslim side of the ‘discussion’ which indication in the past have suggested. Anyone who will decapitate a person will nuke a whole lot of people, and in Iran’s case those people would be infidels. I know what PhD means. I was raised on a dairy farm.

    4. MAHB001 says

      So let me get this straight.
      Liberals in our own media are so void of credibility that you must use the words of our sworn enemies to make your points?
      Liberals are getting desperate.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        Was waiting for someone to bring that up. Here we go again with liberals not only lying but utilizing sworn enemies of our country to defend the illegal actions of the Pres. Very sad, very sad. Reminds me of the apology tour. Feel so sorry for the liberals. It is going to be so very late when they finally wake up to reality and it’s all over except the crying.

  28. Robyn Goldstein says

    Let’s be clear. I began thinking about my next vote with an open mind. Jeb says he is his own person. But then when he surrounded himself w/ all of his brothers & father’s cronies I realized he was not. Perhaps he will become one. But for now–He could have had my independent vote as he sounded like a real conservative. I cannot vote for someone who says one thing and does another.

    1. hrandym says

      You need to consider Sarah Palin. She says it, she does it, and it doesn’t change unless there is a good solid reason, and then she doesn’t hide that either. No other Conservative, or candidate for that matter, has been so thoroughly vetted. She is 100% American.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        Please, please, people do not overlook the Gov Scott Walker. Check him out. He has fought the good fight with democrats/liberals and unions. He won three elections in less than four years because of the intense fight, outside money, and underhanded tactics of the left and still won. He knows how to defeat dems and all their money and supporters.

        1. hrandym says

          Good man. Don’t forget the good woman, Sarah Palin. She has many more accomplishments than Walker, but I like him too. From what I know, Bobby Jindall has the right ideas. The field is crowded with GOPe’s (Bush, Cristie, etc.) and we don’t need another one of those.

    2. MAHB001 says

      I too have a very uneasy feeling about the Republican Establishment.
      I pray it does not come down to Jeb.
      I also believe that we now are presented two choices.
      Democrats = rule by Communism
      Republicans = rule by Capitalism.

    3. MAHB001 says

      Liberals know that if they can keep Republicans split up, Democraps win.

  29. adrianvance says

    The letter was appropriate as most people do not understand our politics and that includes Americans.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  30. hrandym says

    “Divided we fall”: I don’t think so. Our system is set up to handle confrontation from within, to ‘gridlock’, if you will, lest someone make a rash move that endangers us all. Mr. Obama is supposed to get advice and consent from the Congress and when he doesn’t, he is the divider. It is obvious that with the amount of disagreement displayed by the Senators that Mr. Obama is acting on his own, which is generally forbidden by our Constitution. I view Mr. Obama’s actions more treasonous than the letter of the Senators.

  31. FB Adams says

    Treasonous? Really? Quit tossing out incendiary word bombs when this administration has for six years failed to defend and protect the American people.

  32. John Driggers says

    You know tell me if im a little paranoid here but Obama weakens Homeland security borders, gives Iran the chance to get Nukes…should i start learning their language, reading up on the Quran and learn how to pray like they do???

  33. Larry says

    You are crazy, this letter is the first sign of UNITY. Obummer has divided this Country for over 6 years and we still have dumb sheep like you who follow this traitor blindly. We should be supporting the efforts to remove this divisive President.

    1. MAHB001 says

      You are soooo correct.
      NEVER bet against a Pissed Off America.. Let alone 47 Senators and hundreds of millions of supporters.

    2. Larry says

      What’s the Odd’s we get this changed? Do we expect change back to reality or continued stupidity.

  34. Nastasyana says

    I cannot believe that loyal Americans are condoning what the senators did. Our country is losing prestige because of the treatment of President Obama. He was elected by the America people and whether we approve of what he does or not, we need to present a united front to the world.The action of those senators undermines our status not only with Iran but with also with Europe. Beware. This type of behavior is setting a precedent for how presidents are treated in the future.

    1. MAHB001 says

      Are you one of Rick Rogers alter egos or just here to support Rick Rogers?

    2. Brenda says

      Our own newly elected president took it upon himself to tour the world apologizing for the actions of America’s past.
      As a Constitutional Republic, it is our responsibility to see that our government understands that it is a representative of the American Citizens.
      I can see a united front to the world if such a front is warranted. But, just because the president not only ignores our Constitution with his unlawful actions is not a valid reason to stand behind him. .
      This president has already undermined our status.
      Presidents in America are not gods, kings, or dictators. We do not pledge allegiance to a man, but to a country.

  35. GENE says

    HOW REFRESHING….. HONESTY FROM GOVERNMENT!!!! We KNOW we have a turd for president… now we finally know that the rest of the world views him in the same light!!! our Senators are FINALLY putting government and WE THE PEOPLE first!!! I am willing to bet killory, reid, pe-lousy and boehner did NOT sign the letter!!!! Remember this on election day!!!

  36. vor7 says

    IMPEACH NOW!!! It’s late but not too late. Give the lying a$$bag something to keep him on the defensive till he can be ejected – he’s not done screwing-up this country. IMPEACH NOW!!!

  37. John Driggers says


    1. MAHB001 says

      That’s the SPIRIT!

  38. Dennis Ray Wall says

    I pray that this Great Country returns to being like it was when I was young. It was so much more like The Kingdom of God.
    Even the criminals had a reverent fear of God & wouldn’t dare attack a church. The God of The Holy Bible was protecting the U.S.A. from Foreign & Domedtic Terrorism.
    But this Country has gone the way of Sodom & Gamorrah & the Laodicean Church!
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
    2 Chronicles 7:14 NIV

  39. Robyn Goldstein says

    the middle east had some understanding of science that goes way back. That does not qualify as a basis for trust as our president has pointed out in clear terms. Trust takes time to build..

    1. infadelicious says

      obama started the muslim outreach program at NASA so they can continue their wonderful contributions to science.

      1. Doctor Hook says


        1. infadelicious says

          I ………CAN………….SMELL………….THE……CHEM–I–CALS………………..

          1. Jed says

            I love the smell of Dichloromethane in the morning; it smells like … chem lab!

          2. infadelicious says

            i have a friend who drinks like this but doesn’t need the Dichloromethane to keep going.. LOL

          3. Jed says

            It helps to imagine a student in BDU.

            Hey you’re not giving me the bird, are you?

          4. infadelicious says

            battle dress uniform? No, I would never give you the bird. LOL

          5. Jed says

            Yep. True story, many years ago.

  40. Yadja says

    Divide and Conquer the war hoop of O and Holder.

    While at it make sure that you get the police departments under Federal grips and since you already have militarized them throughout this country, via contracted SWAT teams in most cases that have ties to the government your well on your way.

    That is the Divide O has caused.

    This letter brought the country together and gave hope and light into a dark country that is in the claws of a dark and sinister president who is the “Enemy Within.”

    The Young and the Restless Cotton spoke for those in this country who have not had Obattomies.

  41. Ronney says

    You got that right IMPEACH this muslim prick now before it is to late, and that is pretty sorry we have only 47 senators that apparently know our beloved constitution. If this were a white president doing all these treasonous acts he would have been gone months ago, Do it now before all of us really start picking up our arms and meaning business.

  42. Pegasus says

    We have a treasonous anti-American arrogant jerk in the White House. A true child clown who knows nothing of international history. This bizarre evil man wants nothing more than to promote Islam and send America down a pathway of destruction. Time to wise up and rise up!

  43. David says

    Impeach Obozo………..He is the Traitor and all who support him……..

  44. Robert Bolino says

    Thank you Tom Cotton! I’m glad I sent money to you true Allen West Pac!! Hope to hear more of you!

  45. PBHayes says

    The USA under Obama has fallen and it can’t get up. Tom Cotton should run for President.

  46. jimdarnall says

    The letter was needed and no one should be ashamed for sending it. We have a president that is trying to make deals with a terrorist country. That in itself is unacceptable. You don’t make deals with terrorists. They are who they are because they hate us and want us destroyed. You have got to be brain dead or ignorant to believe that Iran would conform to anything that would be acceptable to the US or any other country that defends the free world.Obviously Obama lives in a different world than most of us and doesn’t see the real danger in his actions. I am embarrassed that we have a leader like him and don’t understand why we still do.

  47. Mark Clemens says

    The Constitution plainly states, all Treaties shall originate from the Senate. Obama wants to enter a deal with a foreign terrorist state (That is a Treaty). He needs Congress on this one. We still have economic sanctions w/Iran, only Congress can remove them.
    Here is something We the People should be considered about. Look at the paragraph that explains how long people can stay in office. Mr. Cotton (new blood) says the same senators might be there for DECADES. Kind of a cocky (but true) statement, if you ask me. We need TERM LIMITS fast!!! These people have no intentions of stepping down w/honor………..

  48. RobertNorwood says

    We’re all ready divided so screw what the liberals, democrats, or their effed up loser president thinks.

  49. greyfox says

    Clearly stated, easily understood.

  50. Stan Hoffman says

    As I understand the wording of the letter, they are only advising the Iranians on how the constitution works in matters of peace treaties. They did not try to negotiate or subvert negotiations in the letter. So the libs claims of treason are just unwarranted political lies designed to upset the people who don’t take the time to read the letter and understand the system of how our government works regarding peace treaties.

  51. Jim says

    A Democrat’s idea of “treason” is not being an obedient servant to Obama. For some reason the plain language in the Constitution doesn’t mean anything!

  52. twspears6007 says

    Tom Cotton letter is certainly not an abomination and the Senate is certainly is not spineless they are serving in a capacity that America can be proud of and that is why Republicans were given control of the Senate by the American people in the November 1914 elections Joe Biden is beneath the dignity of the US. Senate and will always remain a ineffective Vice President along with his President Barack Obama the enemy of the free world. Tom Cotton’s letter has done a great service to the American people not only did he educate the Iranian Government on the issue’s of how our government works he has also educated people like Barrack Obama and Joe Biden that they are not going to get away with an agreement that clearly endangers the world and the United States from a rogue nation who is now trying to reinvent there image to a status that they have dropped their nuclear weapon ambitions and seek only peaceful means to provide nuclear power for their energy needs an outrageous lie and a great deception on the World.Tom Cotton has courageously and responsibly warned the Iranian Government how our government works and the consequences of a bad agreement that a bad Obama administration is trying to negotiate without the participation of our legislative branch. We have two different governments and ours is a Constitutional Republic Government and Iran’s is a religious dictatorial and unstable government that can make agreements anytime, any place, with anyone and they will most certainly break those agreements if it suits their interest. Negotiate with Iran!! Impossible and irresponsible under the present leadership of Iran. They have not withdrawn their hate for the United States or the State of Israel and the threat of wiping out the only democratic nation in the Middle East the State of Israel is clearly in their future plans. How will they do it? There is only way to do it a Nuclear bomb and who is going to provide it none other than Barack Hussein Obama and his irresponsible team of negotiators with the pending agreement with Ayatollah Khamenei. Iran must change its course of terrorism or no agreement period that was the main message of the Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu before Congress last month. Netanyahu is right and Obama is wrong simple fact. Obama please don’t make any agreement with Iran’s Ayatollah Khamenei your legacy will be you helped Iran destroy Israel with the nuclear bomb that you declared previously Iran would never get.

  53. OldPatriot32 says

    Kudos to the 47 Senators who stood up to Obama, the Islamic sympathizer. It’s unfortunate that the other 53 Senators chose not to sign off on the letter. Iran already knows the US is split on foreign policy, so this only comes as a surprise to the Left, since it endangers their hero’s idiotic foreign policy.

  54. Jean Witte says

    Senator Tom Cotton deserves all the praise the American people can heap on him!! It is time we quit playing footsies with the enemy, especially one as dangerous as Iran. Thankfully someone in Washington had the gumption to do what needed to be done! Shame Sen. Cotton all you naysayers want, but in the long run I feel certain we will be more than happy that he had the guts to stand firm where standing firm is needed. When we have a sitting president who is feeding us to the dogs one bite at a time, I am thankful for Sen. Tom Cotton!! We need more like him and hang what ‘people’ will say about us, or protocol, or what effect it might have on a political career. Our country is at stake for pete’s sake!!!!

  55. DogWithoutSlippers says

    Kudos to the 47!~

  56. adrianvance says

    Obama is the worst President in the history of this nation. He is a Muslim Communist.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  57. JIMBO says

    How can the author of this article refer to Obama as our President. It is perfectly clear that he is not our President. This Muslim supporter is hell bent on destroying this nation and anyone that cant see this is also a Muslim or just plain stupid. I am proud of the 47 representatives that signed this letter and support there efforts 100%

  58. Carol says

    I see nothing wrong with clarifying what the Constitution calls for. BO has been way off base since the beginning of the “negotiations”. I’m glad the Congressmen did it. I do not believe it is in any way treasonous. I do think Congress ought to take a serious look at this administration now there you’d have multiple cases that should be called for what they are. I think this administration reaks of treason.

  59. Carl Showalter says


  60. Jim says

    obola and his merry band of minions use MY Constitution as toilet paper.
    Rules only apply to Annoited ones enemies. I got something for mr. I got a pen and phone….

  61. Margaret Longoria says

    I support the 47 Senators who compiled and signed this letter. Obama is not a king. We have 3 equal branches of government and Obama does not know what is best for our great nation.

  62. mjmaf says

    Obama is the clear and present danger to this nation and every “agreement” made with despot countries keeps proving it. Israel is in grave danger and because of his no-borders agenda, so are our allies, and so are we!!

  63. rowleya says

    Are there only 47 leaders left in D.C. Fed Gov who will Protect and Defend US?
    Only 47 left in Fed Gov whom we can trust.

  64. JB Wright says

    Perhaps these republican letter writers would better serve the people if they simply did away with the resident terrorists themselves, I doubt the American people would mind, I would be quite happy with that.

  65. SmokingNun1 says

    These 47 senators had GUTS. I wish the other Republicans would get on board. Obama and the Left have demonized Republicans for standing up and unfortunately it has worked. Well, the “new blood” that has been elected has decided enough is enough. They made a bold move~good for them. Having Netanyahu address Congress~another bold move. Good for them. Obama sniveling that they went behind his back? Priceless! What goes around comes around. I hope they have Obama worried about what they will do next. As for the media, it is no surprise that they paint these Republicans as traitors and 100k people have signed petitions demanding Obama arrest and charge them with treason which is absolutely insane. Obama with his reckless apologetic weak foreign policy has allowed them to pursue nuclear weapon capabilities unabated. Our media is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Obama administration. If they would bother to inform themselves and read the plethora of books that have been written, they might actually do their jobs. All the uniformed, low information people who think Obama is doing so much good for this Country need to climb down from their self righteous pedestals and educate themselves instead of believing the progressive lies they been spoonfed for so long. There is no prize for stupidity. Obama is playing with fire and if these Mullahs in Iran get their way, fire is what we will get.

  66. Rick Rogers says

    Latest news President Obama Just came out in support of Oxygen taken into a persons Lungs.. GOP Senators have come put against that saying its a socialist plot and they have proof that Oxygen in the lungs is a Terrible thing. Members of the Tea Party Announced Marches against Oxygen sometime in the next few months.

  67. Rick Rogers says

    Please insert Queen Music “another one bites the Dust” http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rep-aaron-schock-resigns-amid-cloud-ethics-questions

  68. infadelicious says

    The thrill is gone……………………for obama and his blindly obedient, bleating followers.. BIBI KING remains on the throne. Another epic fail for obama

  69. Rick Rogers says

    To those you that can’t help but to demonize Muslims in each and every post we have this public Service announcement for you.

    Full Definition of BIGOT

    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial,ethnic or religious group) with hatred and intolerance
    IF the shoe FITS there BUCKOS…..

  70. Rick Rogers says

    وأتعهد بالولاء لعلم الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية والجمهورية التي تمثلها، أمة واحدة تحت الله، غير قابلة للتجزئة، مع الحرية والعدالة للجميع. “

  71. Ed Leon says

    I am not going to continue discussing with you. Like you said it doesn’t matter to you liberals what answers you get. You, like your King are always right, and it is IMPOSSIBLE you can ever be wrong, your ideas an intelligence is always so far superior. As I wrap up my time with you, I just want to say that I really don’t care what you say, you can call me a bigot all you want, and a fanatic all you want. I will still believe that the God of the Jews is THE ONLY TRUE LIVING GOD, and the Bible is his revelation. In that book it says that God claimed Jerusalem as his city and gave the lands where Israel is to them as a loan until He takes over because He will rule the world from there in peace, and perfect righteousness. The religion of Islam comes as hate for the Jews, and they even mentioned and sanction the submission and killing of the people of THE BOOK which by their definition has its adherents Christians and Jews, and its writings are as old 6,000 years. Then a religion that was created as hate to make the Christians and Jews submission which is the very meaning of the word Islam, SUBMISSION, it is not peace or love. And it was created in the 6th century DC. So, everybody’s concept of God as revealed by the Holy Spirit to Moses in Genesis is all bullshit according to them because they just discovered in the 6th century that they are the heirs of the true God Allah? never mind that archeological findings prove the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah as told in the Bible, geology proves that there was a Great Flood. I live in North FL and deep in the woods while walking my dogs I have found sea shells, more than 100 miles away from the shore.
    Allah (the idol he represent) wants submission, and they nothing but a creation of Lucifer to imitate(and adulterate) the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ, and their version is the worldwide caliphate with the barbaric Sharia Law as submission rule.
    Jesus Christ said I am the way, the truth, and the life, nobody comes to the Father (the true living God), but by me. He said my peace I give you, not like the world gives, but a peace that passes all understanding. Men are lost in their sins, and that’s why you see so much murdering, drugs, sexual deviation and lasciviousness, etc., etc., but God provided a way so sins don’t have dominion over you, and that is to be saved by the blood that He spilled in Calvary’s cross. He then gives you the Holy Ghost to dwell in you after you have being forgiven and saved.
    You will one day stand before Him and it will be as your Savior or as your Judge. Contrary to the deceiving teachings of secular humanism and relative truth, and the utopic belief that all faiths are equal, a day of reckoning when beliefs are going to be measured with reality. The Bible has prophetic teachings form the Old Testament to the New Testament, Isaiah foretold more than 400 before it happened how Jesus Christ would be born, crucified, and buried, and where, with luxury of details of more than 400 prophecies that were fulfilled in Christ. Then in the books of the Old prophets it prophesized how Israel would be destroyed by the Romans and Jews dispersed around the world (diaspora), and how the country of Israel would be reconstituted as a nation to never, ever be destroyed. I want to see your friends the Muslims attacking Israel, you are probably not aware or choose to ignore how many Muslim countries declared war against Israel after its creation in 1948, where the Jews were outnumbered 100-1 in everything from personnel to weapons, and the war lasted 7 days and Israel whipped their butts. Where was Allah? is he a real God that gives a damn about the people that give their lives for him and submit to him stupidly? Is it like when the prophet Elijah challenged the gods of the pagan countries, to have their gods burn the offering, and nothing came from them, and Elijah even make mockery of them, asking them; what happens are your gods deaf, or blind? And he instructed them to build a canal and pour water around the offering and there thousands of gallons of water around the altar, he the called the God of Israel Jehovah, Elohim, I am that I am, and fire came from heaven and burned the offering and all the water around it. That is the real God. And one day you will bow before Him as it says in the Bible that everyone will need to bow before Him.
    Now that God also said in Genesis that He gave Israel an everlasting name, they will not be moved. Islam hates Israel and wants Israel to be eradicated from that land. Let them try it! I wish it would happen so you all pagans and liberals could see who is the real God. Now he also gave Abraham a promise, that he would bless those who blessed his descendants, and curse those who cursed them. Your King hates Israel, he could care less if Iran gets the nukes, that have bowed to use them against Israel without provocation to annihilate them.
    Well have it your way for now, but I a hard thing is putting yourself in opposition to the living God that has all the might to pulverize planet earth, set alone little servant of Lucifer Obama, and you

  72. Ed Leon says

    Who cares? That is totally irrelevant to the point. The point I card about is, do they teach the truth? You would not speak against Islam there or ever. I think you are ready for them. You are completely deceived by them, and at that they are excellent, I have to give them that, I wish believers in the only and true God would be that good, but we are forbidden to lie to advance the Kingdom of Heaven as opposed to the taqiyya of Islam. Perfect example is the one in the White House that is an excellent practicing of taqiyya. He lies as a form of living. So, when they put the flag with the moon god in the White House and they control the U.S., how would you like your execution to be? Decapitation, burning, crucifixion? Oh, I forgot, you will have no problem, you will submit to Allah and convert to Islam.

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