Equality? Women Sue Police Dept Over Physical Requirements


There’s one great truth about feminism coming out over the past few years: when they said they were fighting for equality, they didn’t mean what you thought they meant.

Maybe a long time ago, it was different. Women had a legitimate beef. They were denied the right to vote, they weren’t protected by the law, and they were unfairly discriminated against in the workplace. None of that remains true in 2015, though, and the movement is stronger and more vociferous than it has ever been.

Consider a group of 12 female police officers in Colorado Springs. When they were asked to pass the same physical requirement tests required for male officers – 52 push-ups and 45 sit-ups in four minutes, plus two running tests – they all failed.

But get this? They weren’t fired. They weren’t even suspended. The CSPD put the women on desk duty, presumably until they could get themselves into fighting shape. Instead of hitting the gym, though, the women hired a lawyer.

Now the case is headed to federal court, and the women have been allowed to go back to their usual duties until a judgment has been rendered.

“I very firmly stand behind physical fitness tests for our officers,” said CSPD Chief Pete Carey. “I think what I’m asking them to do is fair and my hope is a federal judge also agrees with this.”

Well, the problem is that feminists (and those who still think there’s a battle of gender equality to be fought and won, regardless of what they call themselves) have a different working definition of “fair.” Is it “fair” that women are, by and large, not physically capable of certain things that men, by and large, are? Well, if you’re the type of person who gets angry at the sun and spends a lot of time wishing for things like world peace, you probably don’t think it’s fair. If you are the type of person who accepts things as they are, you might wonder what could possibly be fairer than a test that counts only the result.

What we’ve got here – and feminists are in the same boat as every other minority crying about their oppression in the U.S. – is a generation of Americans who want to blame the system for their own boring, dismal lives. They’ve grown up watching movies about real heroes, and they are desperate to do something more substantial with their time on the planet than checking Facebook. And that’s admirable. But they’ve fallen prey to a poisonous philosophy that no longer has a practical purpose in today’s United States. That would be sad in the abstract, but it’s hard to feel much sympathy when they’re doing so much damage to our country.

    1. Dolores Wieland says

      get off and pay for your advertising

      1. kotoc says

        I have a feeling that “norma” shelled out a bit of money to get a “kit” and information on how to make easy money online without actually working. Just intrude and “spam” online sites like she’s doing here, with greed and laziness as bait, and she gets money from the corrupt people who tap into people’s personal online information. Don’t pay attention. It’s a scam.

        1. Dolores Wieland says

          I don’t pay attention I just let them know to stay off “our discussion sites”

  1. RMCSRET says

    So in other word change the Requirements so it is fair for the ladies but keep the requirements the same
    for the men so it is fair for them. Only in the mind of a feminist does this make any sense what so ever.

    1. sbeer101 says

      Feminists are (mostly) women who want to be equal in pay and benefits without being equal in responsibility or ability.

      1. AKLady says

        You mean like Joan of Arc, Triệu Thị Trinh or Nakano Takeko?

        1. sbeer101 says

          Thus the (mostly). Read all the words.

          1. AKLady says

            That is a crock.
            You are so full of it, your eyes must be brown.
            What happened, the judge order you to pay more child support than you though you should?

          2. sbeer101 says

            What the fuck are you talking about?

    2. AKLady says

      Maybe you should tell that to Artemisia was the 5th century BCE Queen of Halicarnassus?

      1. Francisco Machado says

        I resent your implication that these women achieved their notoriety, their fame, their positions without having passed the necessary test to get there. Credit them for their own achievements, not for having entered history despite lack of qualifications. There is no mention about the status of men who do not pass the physical requirements – should they, too, be placed in positions for which they have not qualified? This is tantamount to insisting an achievement award in a stair climbing race be awarded to those who take the elevator.

        1. AKLady says

          I suggest that you expand your comprehension of sarcasm.

          In the time of Artemisia, there were no “tests” other than reality. They proved themselves in battle. As women have done throughout the centuries.

          Interestingly, the majority of tests which exclude women are in fact written speifically to do so.

          If you look at physical education and sports in American schools, you will see that they are also designed to exclude females.

  2. 2 parrots and a dog says

    Maybe they were wearing heels during the test.

  3. kotoc says

    What’s fair is fair… like it or not, if a woman wants to do the same kind of work that requires as much physical strength and stamina as a man, she should be ABLE to perform the same tasks that are required. If a police officer has to physically run down and overcome a criminal, the criminal won’t say, “Oh, it’s a woman cop…. I’ll give myself up and go easy on her… even if she ain’t pretty.” If you want a particular job, no matter what gender you are, you have to be CAPABLE of doing it.

    1. Emma says

      Absolutely !
      It is beyond rediculous to think if a woman intends to do the same job as a man that she should not have the same capabilities.

      1. AKLady says

        The problem with your opinion is that women use their brains,
        while men depend on brute force.

        Do a bit of historic research. Look at women such as Tomoe Gozen, Queen Boudicca, even Grace O’Malley … then there are Lozen and Zenobia.

        Weekling women are a modern invention.

        1. OSAMA OBAMA says

          Every week?

          1. AKLady says

            Go watch the boob tube, baby boy.
            Come back when you have matured.

          2. OSAMA OBAMA says

            The democrap’s debate isn’t on!

          3. AKLady says

            Find a sitcom, comody or children’s cartoon.
            Debates are way over our head.

          4. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “Debates are way over our head.”…… Isn’t everything? What’s a comody, a funny toilet?

          5. AKLady says

            As usual the subject is over your pinhead.

        2. Emma says

          The crux of the matter is this… if one cannot meet the job requirements, then apply elsewhere. Period.
          That is the issue

          1. AKLady says

            Women cannot be promoted to the highest mikitary ranks.
            Because women are not “offically” permitted to serve in combat.
            Yet, they have done so for many years under non-combat designations.
            That was even the case as far back as WW II.

    2. dondehoff says

      Kotoc, well on point. In the same vein, it has been proven that military females in planned combat, result in more deaths for both sexes. along with other major problems. Females, just cannot carry the physical “load” required in combat, whether it be gear, or carrying a wounded fellow-soldier. And, most women, in general, are not as “culturally” accustomed to physical confrontation as men, especially when deadly-force is the “name of the game”. Also, what happens when a squad or platoon leader becomes attracted to or falls in love with a female member? Does she still get her fair-share of “point duty” or other extra hazardous assignments? Also, when men and women are together, often their thoughts and attention are on “relationship” issues other than the important issues/business at hand—-we see that in everyday life. In the military or active physical law enforcement, everyone must pay strict attention to the ongoing issues, not for just their own lives but of their fellow partners. Also, men, over the eons, have been taught to “look out” for the “weaker sex”, and in combat full attention must be directed to the overall situation, not just to a single individual. I believe those same military problems also prevail in local law-enforcement. However, there is a need for female law enforcement personnel, especially when small children or other females are involved. I have served over 20 years in the military and there are many functions that females can do equally well and I am sure law enforcement, in general, has a similar stand—but physical combat is not one of them.

      1. dinkerduo says

        Years ago I asked a former Viet Nam vet if women should be in COMBAT–on the front lines and he didn’t hesitate when he said NO–his reason was—because men have in their DNA a certain instinct that want to protect females and a solder might hesitate a moment if she was hit or in danger and that that hesitation could get them both killed—simple as that!
        We are different for a reason and the morons need to learn that!

        1. OSAMA OBAMA says


    3. holyblood1 says

      well the cops don’t chase to much anymore I don’t think because what I read they shoot a lot now.

      1. david b cordick says

        idiot, go take that liberal crap to some other site, only intelligent people that can think and reason are here

        1. holyblood1 says

          Onloy an idiot would say what you did knowing that these cops have been arrested, jailed, and caught in illegally shooting people when they didn’t have to. SO YOU GO TO SOME OTHER SITE AND QUIT BEING PART OF THE PROBLEM BY TAKING UP FOR THIS KIND OF POLICE CORRUPTION.

        2. holyblood1 says

          Only an idiot would say what you did knowing that these cops have been arrested, jailed, and caught in illegally shooting people when they didn’t have to. SO YOU GO TO SOME OTHER SITE AND QUIT BEING PART OF THE PROBLEM BY TAKING UP FOR THIS KIND OF POLICE CORRUPTION.

          1. bayman61 says

            Do like you were told, holyblood1.

          2. holyblood1 says

            I don’t do what people like you tell me to do, who are you? sounds like you are one of the people who are part of the problem that keeps some of these cops that commit crimes on the street not all but some and it needs to stop. if you want to complain about other crime this is no difference unless you are a cop..

        3. Walter H WILSON3rd says

          David, you’ll never reach the mind such as those who need a map to find their way out of a room with only one EXIT! !!!!

    4. dinkerduo says

      I used to be a welder–I’m female–in welding school I was the only woman–the teacher told the men to NOT to try to out-weld me as women are better at it then they are at it–but in the end–gender had NOTHING to do with it–skill did! If the women want to do the same job as men THEN HIT THE GYM and do the work–or SHUT THE F UP! There are certain jobs that REQUIRE physical strength and a cop is one of them—those women are just trying to cause chaos! They are in the group who when growing up never were told NO!

      1. Vassiliki says

        My daughter is interested in welding- she is 14. Unfortunately they do not have welding or metal shop in our HS so she can try it out. What do you suggest? Did you like it? Did it pay well? She is taking an automotive class and she is enjoying that – but not for career. Is taking it so she can work on her own dirt bike.

        1. dinkerduo says

          Hi V.—-that’s a tough question–if I had to do it over I’d make sure I went to a place that mainly did T.I.G. (tungston (sp?) inert gas) welding as it’s clean and not so wham bang heavy dirty stuff like I did—or for metal art. I did it in the late 1970s when I was 37 and where I was at it didn’t pay well–I should have gone to the Rocky Flats Nuclear Site–at the time they paid $21.00 and hour and that was GOOD pay back then but my Mother pleaded with me not to go to a nuclear site–they are closed now but I would have had a good job and a pension–oh well!
          The welding school is expensive–only takes about 6 weeks to learn the basics but unless one is a big brawny girl–which I was not–I’d tell her to learn it from a local welder–maybe there would be someone around where you live who would show her enough to see if she’d like it—good luck.

    5. AKLady says

      Funny fact about women police, that is basically what takes place.
      Women simply do not engage the offender in angry, violent dicourse.
      Women are not only able to do the same jobs, they simply do them better.

      1. Roger Long says

        Tell that to a police who gets shot for trying to issue a traffic citation. You walk up to a vehicle, but the occupant has another idea, no confrontation, he just starts shooting. Your brains are now on the sidewalk.

        1. kotoc says

          A smart law enforcement officer doesn’t put him/herself in the line of fire when approaching a vehicle. They are required to stand at a slight angle behind the driver of the vehicle so as to observe any hand movements or suspicious activity by the driver, or his/her passengers. They don’t get in front of the driver, even to get a good look at their face. They should be able to tell within second if the driver will be a problem or not.

        2. AKLady says

          What does that have to do with male v. female enforcement styles?

        3. OSAMA OBAMA says

          Her’s were pronounced dead years ago.

      2. kotoc says

        Perhaps that might be because a woman cop is less intimidating than a male cop? Perhaps the perpetrators are less defensive and less likely to feel aggression, knowing that it’s “just a female” cop? Or perhaps the female cop is less likely to be pumped up with testosterone?

        1. AKLady says

          You hit the key points.
          Women have proved very effective, sometimes more so than men.
          That is especially true in cases of domestic violence, even in same sex couples.
          Women do not seem to have high levels of bigtryin regard to homosexiality.
          Unlike men, they do not feel threatened by it.

          1. OSAMA OBAMA says

            It’d be nice to see some statistics instead of opinions. What in the hell is “bigtryin”

          2. AKLady says

            A gift for you.
            Something else you can harp on

          3. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Don’t you minorities get tired of being “carried” all of the time? We get tired of the whining, bitching, complaining but never see you try to better yourselves.

          4. AKLady says

            Assume, assume, assume…
            Don’t you haters get tired of hating all the time?

          5. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Assume, assume, assume…Assume…Don’t hate at all, just TIRED!

          6. AKLady says

            Something to wake you up?

          7. AKLady says

            Something to make you ask questions?

          8. AKLady says

            Something to permit you to make more childish insults?

          9. muskat antonopolis says


          10. AKLady says

            Baby talk, baby talk …
            Wow, and able to type at such a yong age.

          11. muskat antonopolis says

            no no.. just started to post and then thought…oh, what to say and who cares
            anyway….didn’t need the slice and dice……but, it seems you are caught up in the shark feeding frenzy…sorry for you about that…….goo goo gah gah……

          12. AKLady says

            No sharks, just irratating house fies.
            Thank you for the kind words.

  4. tax man says

    There are plenty of women who can pass these tests, question is do they want to be police officers? Keep the standards, make sure our police are fit, fast and prepared for all that comes their way, be them men or women. There is no discrimination here, dump this suit.

    1. glenn398 says

      I don’t agree there is plenty of women, don’t think there is even one that can take a man down physically or for a fire woman carrying a 200 pound person over their shoulder out of a burning building. Doing push ups or sit ups is far from being able to do the job.

      1. kotoc says

        They just want to use sit ups and push ups as a physical test to see if the person (man OR woman) is physically fit to do the job. Remember, a cop’s job entails a great deal more than sitting in a squad car, writing tickets, or sitting on a stool in Dunkin’ Donuts drinking coffee and munching on a jelly donut.

        1. glenn398 says

          Physically fit, don’t see how push ups or sit ups qualifies them for the job. It might be a first step but the job still required a lot of physical strength which women just don’t have.

          1. GrizzMann says

            They are not equal in abilities? They should not be equal in responsibility or pay.

          2. glenn398 says

            Problem is they get equal pay but don’t have equal responsibilities and as you have seen they still kept them on even though they couldn’t pass the test.

          3. kotoc says

            Yes….. I KNOW THAT!!! That’s what we’re talking about!! That is, MOST women don’t have those strengths. However, there are still some very strong, somewhat “butch” women out there on the force that can outperform some of the other male officers. It’s merely a test of strength.

          4. glenn398 says

            If they could pass the strength test we would have at least one women in pro football, basketball, baseball or hockey and there are none. Why does the Olympics have separation of men and women because you would think they could compete at least in swimming or skiing but they don’t. How about pro golf, no challenge to the men their either. I rest my case.

          5. kotoc says

            Thank you for proving MY point from the beginning of this discussion!!!

          6. glenn398 says

            At my age of 75 today sometime even wonder what they are talking about. In my day a man was a man and did man jobs, a woman was a woman and did woman type jobs. But today we have a man and he thinks he is a woman and a woman who thinks she is a man even though the plumbing hasn’t changed, then there is transgender whatever they want us to believe that is. So if today’s society wants to confuse us older people they are doing a great job.

        2. Jarhead says

          WRONG – WRONG the donuts are chocolate enrobed…..

          1. Mark Lahti says

            I was going to say the powdered sugar ones.

        3. BIGOTIST says

          Agreed, but you very rarely see any!!!!
          it usually doesn’t take long before the POS can barely exit the squad car!!!!!!!
          it seems their girth increases with their pay increases and length of ?service?~

          1. kotoc says

            Since I have had very few encounters with law enforcement in my life, I wouldn’t know… All I know is that if a person is expected to do their job, whatever the job may be, they should be capable (both mentally and physically) to do it.

          2. BIGOTIST says

            That’s a good thing, but all you have to do is look at the fat useless slobs out there making a 100K+ bennies- they use the drive up windows so they don’t need to call for backup to get outta the cruiser-
            must be a union protection~

      2. BIGOTIST says

        I’ve seen some bull dikes that could kick some butt~

        1. glenn398 says

          True but ugly doesn’t always win

          1. BIGOTIST says

            Hehe, that’s true for sure~

          2. glenn398 says

            When we were kids we had that old rhyme about fatty and skinny went to bed, fatty rolled over and skinny was dead.

      3. sbeer101 says

        You need to expand your horizons. There are women out there who are fully capable of being a cop. Not so many firefighters though.

        1. glenn398 says

          Capable as long as they don’t have to take on a man physically.

          1. sbeer101 says

            There are plenty of women who have the training to take out a man. It’s a matter of training and practice.

          2. glenn398 says

            All I can say is dream on as have yet to see a woman policeman take down a man and there are plenty of women on the police force. Most of the time they will quickly shoot as they know they don’t stand a chance against a man. Like I said if women could compete then why isn’t there at least one in any pro sports or competing against a man in the Olympics, especially in areas like swimming or skiing.

  5. Charlie says

    Requirements for LEOs across our nation have been changing ever since the majority started to bow to the loud whining unqualified humans . Let’s see a female qualify for a job rather than loudly whine or use a law suit to obtain said job. If female qualifies then said female’s safety and those female swore to serve/ protect will be much safer. An unqualified female is just like an unqualified male —- UNQUALIFIED therefore either do what it takes to become qualified or seek another job !

    1. melmack 1 says

      And nobody complains when a male fails the qualification tests.

      1. ipsd48 says

        blacks complained when they couldn’t pass the firefighter test in PA. Claimed the standards were too high for blacks (tho everyone else was able to meet them)

        1. cal3301 says

          If they want to truly be a firefighter in PA, send them out into the counties where all of our firefighters are volunteers.

        2. bayman61 says

          Have you read the article about the black they hired just because of his color? He took the test several times and failed it every time. So he complained that the test was made too hard for a black to pass. The fire department was told to hire him and they said he could not pass the tests, and they said to hire him anyway. Then every time they went to a fire he was on the truck, but when they went to get him to go in the building and help fight the fire, he disappeared? They complained about it, and nothing was done.

          1. Dolores Wieland says

            I read something about that some time ago. I don”t understand why we allow this to happen….it is a danger to the population

          2. bayman61 says

            They act like the standards were made to keep blacks out of certain jobs. What I want to know is, just how in the hell do you do that? When they say that tests were made too hard so blacks cannot pass them. Again, how do you do that? Whites pass them, Asians pass them, Hispanics pass them. All they are saying when they make such stupid complaints is, that they know they are not as smart as everyone else. I want a black to let us know on here, just how do whites make a test too hard for a black to pass it? Any one want to answer this? We want a black to tell us how to make a test too hard for you to pass it. How is that done? I have issued a challenge, who want’s to take up the glove? I bet none of you do, because you have no idea how that is done. Yet you keep making that claim.

          3. Dolores Wieland says

            We”ll see if you get any responses

          4. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            This Black , conservative, man has always been against affirmative action because I didn’t want anything I could not get on my own. I didn’t want anyone like you saying I didn’t earn my position. By the way, white women have been the biggest users of affirmatve action, not black people.

        3. bayman61 says

          Yea, too high. Yet they still claim to be equal.

    2. Debi Desmond says

      Puerto Ricans also sued for and got certain requirements changed to be police officers in New York state because it used to be that you had to be tall enough to see over a squad car to get hired ( for using the car as cover in gun fights) but too many Puerto Ricans and females were too short. so they lost the height requirement. The standards were also lowered because too many blacks couldn’t pass the written tests, which whites were passing. In Camden NJ there was a very overweight woman going through the police academy that couldn’t even do one sit up, so the instructor stood behind her and pushed her up so she could make the minimum amount required. true story! incredible!

      1. bayman61 says

        Blacks want everything given to them on a silver platter. They do not want to earn anything.

      2. Dolores Wieland says

        Libturds caused all this crap which are detrimental to the public in general.

  6. Dane7711 says

    If the job requires certain physical abilities, then it should be the same for all applicants. Period !!

    1. melmack 1 says

      Next plan is that Navy Seals will be reauired to accept females because IT IS ONLY FAIR and it is their turn!!!

      1. Deby says

        I read where that is actually a plan in the works or maybe even happening!! IF they can actually pass the training (highly doubtful in my opinion) then fine-but nothing should be changed to accommodate females on that basis alone-absurd and dangerous.

        1. AKLady says

          Funny science fact: Women are as strong as men, their musdles are simply a different shape. Many people fail to compare them fairly. This is an issue where size matters. However, skill can strip away the advantage of size.

          1. kotoc says

            You’re right about that. It doesn’t matter about weight and strength all the time… sometimes skill, cunning and timing are the key. Just watch any martial arts movie with a woman in it, and chances are that she will beat the bad guy. And it’s not meant to be a joke, y’all… seriously, if a woman can use her talents, even a 5’7″ tall, 120 lb. young lady with enough training can whup a bad guy.

          2. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Can she stop a bullet??

          3. RMCSRET says

            That still does not factor in the Strength requirements along with others. I am a firm
            believer if a lady can do the same Required things as a man then by all means
            give her the job, but if she cant then she does not get the job.

          4. melmack 1 says

            Don’t bother answering aklady. If you say it is red she will say blue. If you agree and say blue she will say red…one of them!

          5. RMCSRET says

            Yes I know she has done everything everywhere and at everytime. Amazing isnt

          6. melmack 1 says

            LOL…Yes, I finally realized it and stopped…..She/He just wants to argue, no positive input …Have a great day !!!

          7. Deby says

            AND insult you to boot! she is a liberal legend in her own mind. I try to ignore her, but sometimes I just have to jump in-like now-she is on a different time zone than I am so I usually get her stupid insulting comments 12 hours later, like now.

          8. AKLady says

            Alaska is in a different time zone.
            However, you woul dknow that if you used your head for thinking.

          9. OSAMA OBAMA says

            WOW!! REALLY??

          10. AKLady says

            More of Osama’s famolus childish comments.

          11. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Which one? “you can keep your doctor”, “57 states” or, ““I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded.”

          12. AKLady says

            American ignorance is a wonder to behold.

            You need to learn the line that seperate civilian and government.

            There was no reason for doctors to drop patients.

            However, the American Medical Association encouraged it. They are terrified that America will adopt some form of national health care.

            Obama did not lie. Doctors, basically statged a walk out strike.

            If yoi have nevee mis-spoke, then you are a genious. Iove done it. Everu living person has done it. YOur talking about one thing, thinking about amother. Suddenly the wrong thing comes out of your mouth.

            You do rwalize that slip of the toungue proves Obana does not use a telapropter. Baby Bush did not dare opem his mouth without one. The Prwsidenr is human. Is that really such an awful thing?

            ““I don’t think they’re gaining strength” — what, if anuthing has that to do with the price of coffee? Presidents do not read minds. There is no cameria in the sjy to tell him what is going on overseas. The CIA gives him bad data, and yoi blame Obama. Babby boy, if the sooks don’t do their job right, you could find yourseld pushing up dasies.

            Get a life. Come back when you have some points that actually have some serious application for the U.S. people.

          13. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “American ignorance is a wonder to behold.” Yep, you Ocumstain leg humping whore! Put down that gallon jug of cheap red wine, your spelling and mistakes make your posts unreadable!!
            “If yoi have nevee mis-spoke, then you are a genious. Iove done it.
            Everu living person has done it. YOur talking about one thing, thinking
            about amother. Suddenly the wrong thing comes out of your mouth.”
            If you are mentally retarded of don’t have control of your thoughts, I will go easy on your stupid, illiterate fat ass.

          14. AKLady says

            A disaster in France and all you have is insult..

          15. AKLady says

            Oh, RMC is jealous.
            I am a retired surgeon.

            Blame your parents for not being career military.
            Blame yourself for not being military.
            Blame yourself for not obtaining a good education.
            Blame yourself for not marrying a career miiitary individual.

            My family moved an average of ever two years.
            I was active duty military for eight years.

            My first spouse is buried in Arlington, KIA Vietnam.
            My second spous is buried in Arlington, KIA Korean DMZ.

            My third spoise retired after 30 years in 2003.

          16. Raymond Tower says

            Who cares. Try to stay on topic. The women in the article failed the tests, thus should not be suing anyone for discrimination. You alone with them want “equal” rights, then pass the tests just as a man has to pass the physical fitness test. No exceptions!

          17. AKLady says

            Go back and read the article again.
            The women were already on the poluce force.

            About the two thing men can do, that women cannot:

            1) father a child.
            2) pee standing up with their pants on.

          18. Vassiliki says

            This b!tch is amazing! I lived in AK for 12 years and refuted some of her statements and still had the audacity to say I never lived there. She is a piece of work and needs to be in a mental institution

          19. RMCSRET says

            That’s why the best policy with her is to just IGNORE her completely.

          20. Emma says

            She very well may be in an institution….of some kind ?

          21. Bob Wexler says

            There is a 5′ 2″ to gal at a local DoJo known as killer Kathy.
            There is no one at that DoJo that would want to meet her in a dark ally. She regularly takes on 2 men with black belts and beats them.
            Now I am not sure I would want to depend on her to carry me out of a jungle. Nor would I expect that I could carry her out of that same jungle. At 225 lbs and 70 years old I am in even worse shape than I was at 20 but I question weather I would have gotten through Basic even at 20.

          22. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Too bad they can’t spell.

          23. AKLady says

            I admit to being a lousy typist.
            One of these days, my computer will be 100% back to normal.
            Back-up do not put everytjing back to original.

          24. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Back-up do not put everytjing back to original.” …..does not! everything!

          25. AKLady says

            You need to get off the pills.

          26. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Thanks for your corrections….Just helping with your English lesson. You really are a trailer park welfare queen aren’t you!

          27. AKLady says

            Save your breath.
            You are making a fool of yourself.
            Your opinion is not worth $0.02.

          28. Raymond Tower says

            A proper backup does put it back to 100% the way it was. Try again!

          29. AKLady says

            The drive? Yes.
            The “Start Menu”? No.
            Suggest you do not install windows 10 and then uninstall it.

          30. Raymond Tower says

            The start menu as well, everything if a backup was properly performed. I’m a certified technician and have executed dozens of backups and restores. A backup done right, restores everything that you backed up for that date. Everything!

          31. jaybird says

            Bullets flying right and left and she is going to design a way to get her partner back to safety by going out in open and bending over to grab the clothing to try and pull him/her back to safety all the time she is going to be shooting back.

          32. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Just like the movies!!

          33. Vassiliki says

            No, she is going to design a machine while the bullets are flying to pull her partner to safety…brains comes first not strength or power remember? Don’t forget she will do it with one hand too!!! this is better than the Late show with David Letterman!

          34. jaybird says

            She is full of it. In a posting above, she was married to a career officer for 30 yrs.and she watched him grow and grow then she got twin beds. I kept thinking did he get so big that he couldn’t fit in the bed with her? It is better than the David Letterman Show.

          35. Vassiliki says

            then she divorced him! Her stories are becoming my bed time stories as I chuckle along… I do not know how they fit in a bed together…remember she has bones as a large man and weighed 190# at age 13- can’t even fathom what she weighs now!

          36. jaybird says

            I needed a laugh this morning and you did it! Thanks!

          37. RMCSRET says

            well AKLADY when I talked about this subject last evening she was of the mind that
            if women want to be EQUAL then they need to do it just like a man. That means
            all of the Physical requirements as well as the mental aptitude.

          38. Jarhead says

            Ain’t ever goin’ to happen! Females differ from males…..a simple fact overlooked by the low-info, PC LibTARDs, FemininNAZI, LGBTQ crowd.

          39. OSAMA OBAMA says


          40. AKLady says

            The only low-info around here, Jarhead, is you.
            If you tried that line with these women, they would have mounted your head on a spike. These names of famous women warrors only cover a couple centures. Just ask, I can provide more.
            5th Century CE – Princess Sela
            529 CE – Princess Halima
            530 CE – Tomyris
            590 CE – The Christian Synod of Druim Cett ordered that British women should no longer go into battle alongside their men
            598 – 623 CE – Princess Zhao Pingyang
            624 CE – Hind al-Hunnud
            625 – 705 CE – Wu Chao, known as ‘The Empress Wu’
            625 CE – Nusaybah bint Ka’ab
            c.632 – 705 CE – Apranik
            639 CE – Negan
            7th century CE – Dahia Al-kahina
            722 CE – Queen Aethelburgh
            c.730s CE (active in) – Parsbit (also as Prisbit)
            c.750 CE – Azad Deylami / Azad-e Daylami
            c.783 CE – Fastrada
            c.815 – 838 CE – Banu
            890 – 969 CE – Olga of Kiev (Princess Olga), 69 – 918 CE – Ethelfleda

          41. Raymond Tower says

            Again the why the hell change the standards of physical fitness to accommodate the females?

          42. AKLady says

            Short story
            At the end of WW II all those GIs came home to find all the jobs filled by women. Rosie the Riviter was a emblem of the “new” woman, the begining of women’s liberation.
            Same situation plaued out after the Vietnam War. Just not in the same largw numbers. There just was no putting women back in the “old” mold.
            So how do you close jobs to women? Easy, you simply establish exaggerated physical requirements.

          43. Craig Watts says

            Then turn into one of those ass kicking women you listed above and go meet the standards.

          44. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            I bet it was a man who did the actual work for these women.

          45. AKLady says

            We can hve a conversation,
            or you can insult, but not both.

          46. Bird says

            I fail to see how it’s insulting when it’s probably true. If the women were not physically fit, how do they compete with those who are? My son has a job where he is required to qualify using a rifle and a hand gun, if he doesn’t meet the standard…. he’s out of a job!! No muscles are involved, no male vs female, no endurance requirements…. he STILL has to be able to DO what the job requires!

          47. AKLady says

            They say ignorance is bliss.
            You seem very blissful./
            I think you ought to sue the school
            you attended. They failed in their duty/

          48. Craig Watts says

            Anyone can kick ass with an army of slaves and serfs backing them up.

          49. Jarhead says

            You forgot FDR’s wife who suggested bats be trained to set fire to Germany cities.
            DUH !! Like you all those you listed where suffering from menstrual or menopausal syndromes and would have frightened a rabid dog.

          50. AKLady says

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            You seem exceptionally blissful.

          51. jaybird says

            Very few can outdo or be just as good as a male. It just happened in a military unit. AKperson just named a few woman in each century.. She know everything and is right about everything in her mind. Evidently the women in this article are not and the lawsuit needs to be dismissed.

          52. AKLady says

            No, jaybird, I prived the statemenr wrong.
            If you want a long list, do your own research.

          53. AKLady says

            Try some science education.
            It will keep you from making a fool of yourself.
            It will also prevent you from embarassing the Corps

            Semper paratus

          54. Craig Watts says

            It didn’t stop you.

          55. AKLady says

            Only in your opinion of limited value

          56. AKLady says

            Well, women are technically “smarter”.
            In the female, the corpis callosum is larger.
            Also the two hemispheres work togeather.
            Women also have language functions in both hemispheres.
            The frontal area of the cortex and the temporal area of the cortex are more precisely organized in women, and are larger in volume

          57. ggarrett34 says

            Yes they have ” language functions ”
            many never shut up!

          58. Craig Watts says

            Yeah… like AKLazy…

          59. Bird says

            You need to zip it…. you are embarrassing yourself with your stupid remarks.

          60. AKLady says

            Science and fact is over your head.
            One cannot enlighten the uneducable.

          61. Emma says

            Yes Ma’am. You are a case in point.

          62. AKLady says

            Thank you for proving my point.
            Maybe you should have looked at the facts
            before making a follish remark.

          63. Emma says

            The only fool I see is you, & you still don’t get it.
            It is sad .

          64. Craig Watts says

            Yeah, but the article above wasn’t about you.

          65. Craig Watts says

            So what happened to you?

          66. James Maxwell says

            On this one you and I agree, I have know some ladies who could meet or exceed
            the qualification, but they are few and far between. Just like not all men are
            qualified to perform at the level needed either, much of it is mental preparedness
            and today that is a problem in our society. As for skill overcoming size that is a
            problem when you are trying to rescue a person who is bigger and heaver than
            you and requires all of your strength to save them. Skill comes in if conflict
            is involved.

          67. jaybird says

            I would want someone that has my back (partner) able to pass the physical fitness test just like I did. If this was a requirement when they/females applied for the job than they should have to be able to qualify. If an officer is down, she might need to pull him to safety (he will be dead weight laying on ground) without getting either shot again. You never know what is going to happen on the job. Why don’t we just make allowances for every job (you don’t have to do this, you don’t have to do that) so that the whole country can fall apart at the same time.

          68. AKLady says

            Men are stronger simply because they are typically larger then women. Women tend to match the strength of men more closely in lower body muscles than in upper body muscles.

          69. jaybird says

            So???? The question is there discrimination? Which is no.

          70. AKLady says

            Actually, there is discrimination — tons of it.
            YOu must be male.

          71. AKLady says


            You might be very surprised what a few body chemicals, such as adrenaline and cortisol, can do during stressful chalenges.

            I watched a small, thin woman lift the front of a car — her son’s leg was trapped under the passenger side wheel. No, not one of these light weight modern imports, but a full-sized 1950s gas guzzler.

            It left a huge impression on me. I was only 6 at the time. Being a good Catholic child, I thought I had witnessed a miracle. Well, until my mother, a physician, explained how it was possible.

          72. AKLady says

            The circumstnces determine what can be done.

            One can use a “sled” and drag the injured person,
            lefting and carrying is not always the only choice.
            There are many ways of devising a “sled”.

            Also circumstances have a lot to do with a person’s actions.

            As I stated elsewhere, as a child, I witnessed a woman pick up the front of a car
            to tescue her son trapped under a wheel.

            Adrenaline and corisol are amazing chemicals.

          73. jaybird says

            Yeah, the police woman can take her sled out of the car to move her partner out of the line of fire. Duh. We are discussing this article. People can do amazing things when family is involved.

          74. AKLady says

            Is your thinking that limited?
            The injured person’s clothing can serve as a “sled”.

            People can do amazing things when high on adrenaline and cortisol.

          75. jaybird says

            I think yours is that limited and no common sense. Someone is shooting at you and your partner is laying on the ground and you are going out there and stoop over and grab his clothing (make sure you have a good grip) to pull him back to safety?????????? Don’t expect anymore replies, because I can see that you willl come up with something stupid.

          76. AKLady says

            To pick up your partner, amd carry him out of danger you would:

            1) Have to take your eyes off your atacker.
            2) Put your weapon away in order to pick up the injured partner.
            3) Either turn your back on the attacker, or have the injured partner as a human shield.

            On the olther hand, I’d keep my weapon in hand.
            Keep my eyes on the criminal/atacker.
            Drag the injued person to safety with the olther hand.

          77. jaybird says

            Ha,ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

          78. AKLady says

            Well, you know that is exactly what we trained to do in CDC classes during the Cold War. Guess you are too young to remember those days.

          79. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Geez! I thought you alone, ended the cold war!!

          80. AKLady says

            Your delusions are getting much worse.

            Please seek help.

            People are worried about you.

          81. Vassiliki says

            So a 140 pound woman is going to pull a 200 plus man by his collar with ONE HAND to safety! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

          82. AKLady says

            I’ve watched a smaller woman pick up the front of a car.
            Her son’s leg was trapped under a wheel.
            Adrenaline and cortasol are very powerful drugs.
            You might want to learn a bit more about body chemistry and physioliogy.
            You do not seem cognazant of what humans are capable of doing under emergency conditions.
            .Conversaition or insult.
            Your choice.

          83. Vassiliki says

            We have all heard that story except you witnessed it. I know quite a bit about physiology and chemistry thank you. So that means all women will exhibit the adrenaline and cortisol rush when on the police force and therefore able to pull a man to safety with one hand. You only like to give insults but do not like to take any….Next

          84. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Now you are starting to understand AKC!

          85. jaybird says

            I think you mean, AKL

          86. OSAMA OBAMA says

            AKC=Alaskan Kennel Club

          87. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Sez Dr. AKC!

          88. AKLady says

            Thank you, thannk you, thank you.
            Now go to bed.
            Your motjer insists, something about chirch in the morning.

          89. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Quack, Quack, Quack! The quack dr. quacks away! Prescribe yourself some meds. quackgirl!

          90. jaybird says

            Yes there are some women that can make the cut but we are discussing the ones in the article and if they cannot make it they need another assignment. I hope they throw the lawsuit out.

          91. Jacky says

            if you have requirement to lift something and move it, your skill has no value. and it is asinine to pretend that it does.

          92. AKLady says

            Brains allow a thinking human to design a way to lift and move an object without harmng one’s body — it is called a machine. Skill amd knowedge has everything to do with it.

          93. Deby says

            NOT ALWAYS-your sweeping statement that “Women are as strong as men” is absolutely NOT a science fact, funny perhaps, factual- not so much. If a man and a women were of EQUAL size and weight, what you say is possible of course, but pitting men and women of vastly different height and weight-skill levels aside- in a STRENGTH contest, the man would prevail. True life proven fact. And please, if you are too tired to type, just proof read a bit-or turn your spell check ON

          94. cal3301 says

            AKLady has no concept of the anatomy of the human body or spelling. The shape of women’s muscles are no different than that of a man’s. There are some women that have the capacity to achieve as large a muscle mass as men(more testosterone), but lack the ability of leverage a man can achieve due to the shape of their frames.(bone structure) A woman’s frame was designed for child bearing and has a different center of gravity than men. Men were designed more for endurance and strength. That’s why when backed against a wall, a woman can pick something up where a man cannot, often proven with a straight back chair. Size and weight do not always play a factor and small people have been known to take down giants. As you stated though, a man would win in a strength contest.

          95. DefyRule says

            AK lady is an ignorant troll who spouts off with make believe and makes up idiotic flasehoods he/she portrays as “true”. This is a scientifically proven fact

          96. cal3301 says

            I was told she’s a paid troll. The more who respond to her, the bigger the check. I won’t respond any more to her. I only try to warn others.

          97. Bird says

            You mean if I get online, make a fool of myself, sound really stupid, type like a fool, and generally create more “dialog” that I can get paid for it?!! What idiot would possibly pay for that?! Tell me how…. I’ll be a “troll” if it pays well enough ; >)

          98. cal3301 says

            If I knew, I’d hit the Liberal sites and give it a try. I’m only repeating what was told to me after my first run in with her.

          99. AKLady says

            No, you are not qualified.
            You lack the required education.

          100. AKLady says

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            You seem quite blissful.
            You have an Internet connection.
            It is a shame you do not use it to educate yourself.

          101. DefyRule says

            It’s not working. What you have been trying to do here is not working. You are on the losing side. It’s hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

          102. AKLady says

            Suggest you go back and take a few more human anatomy and biology classes.

            You might want to read studies such as

            Eur J Appl Physiol Occup Physiol. 1993;66(3):254-62.
            “Gender differences in strength and muscle fiber characteristics.”
            Miller AE1, MacDougall JD, Tarnopolsky MA, Sale DG.

          103. cal3301 says

            Again you are outdated. The anatomy and physiology of muscles between a man and a woman are the same except where a small proportion of the population may have an extra ligament in their forearm or some may achieve an eight pack over a six. Both male and female contain 650 striated layers connected to bone. Muscular tissue makes up between 35-40 percent of our weight and come in several types of packaging—skeletal, cardiac, and smooth.

          104. AKLady says

            Maryana Naumova, 13 years old, from Russia benches 240 pounds RAW at the MHP power pitt at the 2013 Arnold Classic. Oh, she weighs 100 lbs.

          105. Bird says

            If that’s true you just proved the point of this entire dialog….. the police women should be able to compete with men on their own level…. they are just being lazy (not exercising, jogging, lifting weights, etc.) and SHOULD have to sit at a desk!!

          106. AKLady says

            Abbey Watson, an eighth grader from Broomfield, Colorado was able to squat 143.3 lbs and deadlift 176 lbs. Not a big deal — she is an 8th grader from Colorado who weighs all of 105 lbs. She set 8 world records.

          107. cal3301 says

            I bench pressed 350 with my legs at 140 lbs. That has nothing to do with the price of apples.

          108. AKLady says

            Just how do you hold the weight bar with your feet? 😉

          109. cal3301 says


          110. AKLady says

            If you say so.

          111. Vassiliki says

            AK ICE HAG has no idea about weight lifting- that previous comment had me rolling with laughter on the floor!!!!!

          112. AKLady says

            The childish, shallow know-it-all cannot admit errors.
            Grow up.
            Game over,
            Go play with someone else.

          113. AKLady says

            You sense of humor stinks.
            So does your reading comprehension.

          114. AKLady says

            Suggest you learn the difference between muscle mass and strength. Interesting, both men and women build strength equally, but only men’s muscles build much mass to go with it.

          115. Vassiliki says

            Now you are full of sh!t!! I built 10 pounds of muscle mass in 3 months- became stronger and my mass increased. To build strength you are enlarging your muscles and making your bones denser therefore increasing your mass. When is the last time you lifted?

          116. AKLady says

            High repetition with lighter weight builds strength and endurace.
            It does not damage the muscle, so their is no tissue buildup
            I hit the gym at least three times a week,

          117. Vassiliki says

            Beg to differ. Light weights and high reps do not build strength but keep you at the same level and does not challenge your muscles anymore. Increasing your weights, increases your muscle mass by tearing down your muscle fiber and building more. heavy weights and low reps is a way to increase strength, muscle mass and endurance- not little prissy pink weights. You mentioned previously that only men muscles build mass- I said BS and your answer as always did not refute my reply above of how I built 10 pounds of muscle mass and strength in 3 months and it sure wasn’t by high reps and little pink weights.

          118. AKLady says

            In simple terms, strength is about increasing force production. Size is about creating microscopic damage to the muscle, which then causes it to repair and grow larger. Hypertrophy does not equal strength.

          119. AKLady says

            Testoserone is the male sex hormone.
            Women produce very small amounts of that androgen.

          120. cal3301 says

            “Testosterone, part of a hormone class known as androgens, originates in your ovaries and your adrenal glands. Even women whose ovaries have been removed probably make enough testosterone with their adrenal glands to meet their needs, Dr. Cohen says. Women can even suffer from “low T”.

          121. AKLady says

            Is you post supposed to be a contradiction?

            I clearly stated that women produce testosterone in very small amounts.

            If a woman’s body produces too much testosterone, she will begin to grow a beard and her voice will deepen. She will also begin to form bulky muscles. The breasts will devrease in size, menstrual periods will shorten or become absent, and she may start to lose hair.

            Normal testoserone livels:

            Male: 300 -1,000 ng/dL

            Female: 15 – 70 ng/dL

          122. cal3301 says

            If you knew anything about anything, it would be a miracle, as you can’t spell, blame it on your typing, and had the nerve to tell someone to look up dyslexia. You know nothing about weight lifting either. You were an obese teen that someone gave a half pack to, so you would lose some weight. That shows your stupidity.
            Any woman that body builds or works out, knows that breast are nothing but fat and they will lose them. Testosterone levels increase the more anyone works out. It is what gives the human body muscles mass and increases the sex drive of both men and women. Any woman taking birth control pills is receiving testosterone as it aides in the reproduction cycle.
            I am sick of your stupidity. Do not reply.

          123. AKLady says

            Insult or conversation.

            You certainly have some interesting misconceptions. You have an Internet connection, why don’t you use it for research instead o fmaking a fool of yourself before the entire world?

            Birth control pills contain combinations of estrogen and progestrin or progestin alone. They do not contain testosterone.

            The breast is a mass of glandular, fatty, and fibrous tissues positioned over the pectoral muscles of the chest wall and attached to the chest wall by fibrous strands called Cooper’s ligaments.

            Exercise does not cause loss of brest tissue, Exercise alone does not reduce fat.. After exercise, testosterone levels rise — but not for long.

            There is virtually no difference in testosterone levels at 30 minutes after execise than there was prior to exercisw.

          124. cal3301 says

            Maybe you’re the one that needs to catch of with the times. Many have contained a low dose of a testosterone like hormone, while others take it one step further…..


            As for the breast, if it wasn’t for the fat, they wouldn’t be hanging. Many women body builders have breast implants because of it. Do yourself a favor and keep you mouth shut. You are the only one that seems to be making a fool of themself.

          125. AKLady says

            You drug is simply a new one on the market.
            The concept is anything but new.
            Do yourself a fovor, stop publishing your ignorance for the world to witness.

          126. cal3301 says

            YOU ARE FUBAR! Get a life. I am sick of your stupidity and your ignorance of your own lies. You try to act like you know everything, and you know nothing. Half the time you can’t spell and you blame it on your typing. We all know on these sites, that is not the case. Your grammar is atrocious and you are just plain obnoxious. NO ONE REALLY CARES OR WANTS YOUR OPINION. THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS HIGHLY OF THEM, IS YOURSELF. YOU ARE SO SELF ABSORBED THAT YOU REFUSE TO LISTEN OR LEARN ANYTHING, FROM ANYONE. GET A LIFE AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE.

          127. AKLady says

            Thank you for you input.

            It has been taken into consideration — and rejescfted..

            Do yourself a favor, stop publishing your ignorance for the world to witness.

          128. cal3301 says

            Glad you were able to “rejescfted”. Some new kind of eating disorder for you or one of your so called finger mishaps? Your ignorance and stupidity are abounding. There’s “No fool, like an old fool” and you fit that to a tee. You might want to reread what people are saying about you, before you try and throw stones at others, that are no where near a target.

          129. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Liberals are too scholarly to proof read or spell check.

          130. AKLady says

            Equal size and weight was exactly my point.
            My computer crashed two months ago. I’ve had two experts review the software. So far, no one can correct the problem. The speller does not work for this Internet site.

          131. AKLady says

            Do not install Windows 10 and then uninstall it.
            Three experts have tried to resolve the problem.
            Internet Explorer does not have a buikt-in spell check.

          132. kotoc says

            I suppose Internet Explorer doesn’t install proofreading either?? If you cared about how others view your intelligence, you MIGHT want to proofread your comment, make the necessary corrections for spelling mistakes, AND consider whether your comment has any intelligent bearing on the discussion… is it a smart one, that really reflects how you feel overall… or is it off the top of your head at that heated moment?

          133. AKLady says

            Why do you think I care what you think of me?
            This is play, not work.

          134. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I’d hate to see your work! LMAO!! What a twit AKC is!

          135. AKLady says

            Why do you think I care what you think of me?

          136. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Because you respond to my every post!…STUPID!

          137. AKLady says

            Look up dyslexia.
            Grow up.

          138. OSAMA OBAMA says

            How about the old fashioned way, stupid, like the rest of us!! Funny I can catch every one of your mistakes, scholar, and there are a lot of them!! Liberals sure are funny!

          139. AKLady says

            Look up dyslexia.
            Grow up.

          140. Michael Dennewitz says

            I would really like to meet your mother…. I’d SLAP THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HER for giving birth to such a dumbass..

          141. AKLady says

            Now that is a joke.
            You would be flat on your butt in 60 seconds the minute you opened your filthu mouth.

          142. AKLady says

            Michael police photo from Ohio newspaper

          143. muskat antonopolis says

            mike…man..man…try to calm down….remember that what makes you mad CONTROLS you….so? AKLady controls you? say it aint so…..

          144. denniscerasoli says

            No they are not as strong period,maybe an exception here and there but that is it.The military has certain requirements that can’t be changed it isn’t an easy task for one man to carry a wounded man from out of harms way,this is not a job for woman in general.If they can pass then maybe.I can see a woman fighter pilot and i don’t question their courage under fire,that is those who have been trained to fly planes.I have to be honest though,i was a Marine in the early 60’s and i am 71 years of age so i guess you could call me a throw back.

          145. AKLady says

            Medical sciencr diagrees with you.
            Were you at PI? Do you remember a DI named Seavy? A cousin I grew up with.

          146. denniscerasoli says

            I went to Parris Island september 17 1961 the day after i turned 17 so i didn’t waste any time.I don’t recall a Seavy but i did have a DI from my home town which was the worse thing possible,lol.When i first got there and he found out where i was from,he told me to right home and tell my family to leave the city,lol lol.It was a bitch and they were slap happy,lol

          147. denniscerasoli says

            Just to add,i have seen video’s where woman DI’s were screaming at male recruits in modern times,something that wouldn’t even cross their minds when i was in,but Marine boot camp is still the longest and toughest.Our training consisted of 12 weeks at PI and a month at camp geiger 16 weeks in all.

          148. Bird says

            If they are as strong as men but their muscles are just shaped differently…. then women ought to be able to accomplish the requirements equally. Rather than strenghening those muscles they would rather get a lawyer and “reset” the requirements just for them; thus PROVING that women ARE NOT EQUAL, just lazy!! Thanks a lot!! : >/

          149. AKLady says

            I suggest you do some research.

            I have no doubt that my 6′ daughter is as strong as her husband.

            She has proven repeatedly, over 40 years, that she is as strong as her 6′ 5″ brother. He is an officer in the U.S. Marines.

            Because she is female, she has greater flexability. Also, as with most women, the majority of her strength is located in her lower extremities.

          150. AKLady says

            Tell me Bird, is a 5′ 1″ male the equal of a 6’2″ male?
            If the smaller of the two is faster, more limber and better trained; what then would be your opinion?

          151. Bird says

            A 5’11” male IS required to meet the very same criteria as the 6’2″ male when it comes to training, endurance, strength, etc. No “allowance” is given to the smaller man….. the same should apply to women if they are wanting to do THE VERY SAME JOB! A strong man should not have to worry that his “back-up” may not be able to keep up, back him up, defend him or her when necessary; no way…. it’s putting both of their lives in danger.

          152. AKLady says

            Who built the battleships during WW II?
            Who built the tanks?
            Who built the planes?

            Rosie the Riveter, that is who.
            Certainly not men who were too old, or too disabled to fight.

          153. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            If you think only women worked in the factories and shipyards during the Second World War, then you need to study history again.

          154. AKLady says

            The majority of factory workers were women, that is a documented, historic fact.
            Yes, there were sime men working, those who were not fit for military service.

          155. AKLady says

            Maybe you should read what I wrote.
            Where did you get this 5’11’ male?

          156. Bird says

            Obviously a “mistype” that any normal person would have assumed. The meaning remains the same whether the person is 4’11”, 5″1″, 5′ 11″, or 6’2″….. male or female….. the test must remain the same for all! Do women REALLY call it “equality” when they don’t actually have to BE equal to men? I’m not seeing the “equality” part of that.

          157. Vassiliki says

            I am a woman and I am in total agreement- if they can’t pass the test they are off the street- same for the male. If women want equality then it is for all aspects of the job requirement.

          158. OSAMA OBAMA says

            SURE!! LMOA!

          159. Vassiliki says

            If a women or man cannot pass the physical requirements then they are not eligible for the job. I am strong for my size, I weight lift and work out and my body fat is close to 11% at age 48. Even if I passed this test with my weight of 110 and height 5′ 7″ there is no way that I am stronger than the average man of 200 pounds. Sure I may do more push ups and sit ups than most men because in today’s world most men my age and younger are fat but it does not mean I am stronger. I do not know many men that weigh 110. Even a fit woman of 140 pounds would have difficulty in taking down and subduing a 200 plus man regardless of her strength and fitness. Mass plays a huge factor in strength and men tend to have bigger masses than women- and I do not mean fat and obese women. Even big women in the gym that I work out with can lift more than me due to their mass. If you look at us and compare I look more muscular and fit but they can out lift me but that doesn’t mean they will pass the running test.
            Bottom line- if one cannot pass the physical requirements for the job whether male or female then you do not get it. It is the same if a job requirement asks for a BS degree and you do not have one then you are not qualified- man or woman. We are made differently. A woman’s body was created to carry and bear children and to feed them- hence the boobs and wider hips. It is the way it is and if these women that are whining because they didn’t pass the physical requirements of the job they need to look elsewhere or get fit. They make the rest of us women look bad.

          160. AKLady says

            Bottom line — women have changed the face of police work. They do not escalate confrontations. They do not abuse those they arrest. Unquestionably, they are alternatives to physical combat -tasers, tear gas, pepper spray …

            Oh, the BS degree whine. For an entry level person, sure. For someone who has 10 years of exerience, not needed. Somewhere alone the line, employers forgot that. Hence, many unemplyed that should not be.

            Signficant mass plays a large part in brute force. Smaller, more flexible, quicker opponents use their mass as a tool. Of the two, the latter makes a better police officer. Why? They use their brains rather than brawn.

          161. Vassiliki says

            Yeah he has a gun and I will approach him with a taser! You do not know what situation you will end up in a confrontation. Some may need brains and agility and other physical strength. If you can’t pass any of those then you are not qualified. Besides, if those are the qualifications then you need to pass them. As far as degrees are concerned, many jobs still require a degree or certification no matter how many years you have under your belt. Stop with the BS

          162. AKLady says

            You would argue with God himself.
            Go insiuls someone else.
            YOu are out of bounds
            Game over.

          163. Vassiliki says

            You have no answer so you spew some kind of sh!t that doesn’t make sense. Same thing over and over again. I don’t argue with God- only with dimwits

          164. AKLady says

            You are arguing.
            You have been arguing.
            You can’t stop arguing.

          165. Craig Watts says

            On the contrary… I’ more than aware of the difference in shape, and I appreciate it. Does that mean they get to skip the standards because the look different? That would be NO.

          166. AKLady says

            Your mind is on the wrong shape.

        2. denniscerasoli says

          I suppose there are exceptions to every rule,there will always be a few that can do it,but i don’t think that those few will make any changes.Men are stronger then woman and that is a biological fact,it has nothing to do with inequality.

          1. Deby says

            I agree with you on this-I do not agree with anything AKweirdo says.

          2. AKLady says

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            Your ignorance is self-imposed, which is incredably sad.

          3. Darrell Maynard says

            Aklady how sad that you really seem to believe your drivel. How can women and men have the same strength but men are larger, do you realise just how truly ignorant that statement is?

          4. AKLady says

            You are the only one going on about little women and big men.
            Apparently, in yur world there are no larger women.
            Gee, I have four children, the shortest is 5’9″ — that one is male.
            One son is 6’5″
            One daughter is 6′
            Equal size, equal strength.

          5. Patriot068 says

            Equal size does NOT equate to equal strength PERIOD!!!!Women are built different. Unless tell are on hormones or steroids etc. Muscle tone etc I’ve seen 6′ women bean pole thin who couldn’t do one pull up or one push up and the same goes for guys. We had a ( big girl) in the service and we were trying to rescue a fellow service member and with her gear on her ass wouldn’t fit down the 21″ scuttle so we pulled her out aND sent a team of fit guys in to extricate them. Needless to say see was off the team accept for exterior attack. Also FD is a demanding job physicaly and we started with 10 women in the Academy and graduated with 1. So size DOES NOT EQUAL STRENGTH

          6. AKLady says

            Your assumption based on “big” and women.
            I have “big” children. They are not fat.
            Drop outs that I have known personnally
            have said they got out because they found
            that they did not like the work after having a taste of it.
            Others left because they were being placed in danger
            by sexual harassment. Don’t go off on a tangent,
            those were the conditions 20 years ago. I do not
            know if they exist today.

          7. Ellen says

            It is funny, but you are absolutely right. Woman have bigger hips than men. Built that way for motherhood.

          8. Btty says

            OMG Here we go again with your stupidity! Will you ever learn? You either have a bull duke for a daughter and a pee wee Herman for a son or your lying again. You take the strongest woman and the strongest man and that woman will lose everytime. There are just things a woman can’t do that a man can. Ever seen a woman police officer try to take down a criminal that doesn’t’t want to comply. Her ass ends up in the dirt with the criminal on top with her gun.

          9. AKLady says

            Apparently, the police force you are dealing with places their employees in danger by not training them properly or adequately.

            I have witnessed women officers take down male offenders, quickly and efficiently. Apparently, you have not shared that experience. I know a number of women with excellent training.

            Yes, there are things women cannot do. One is father a child. The other is pee without bearing their butt.

          10. Btty says

            Yes of course in your little dream world women are equal. Live in the real world AK. Your delusional if you think they are of equal strength. Have you no shame lying like you do? Maybe your speaking of the Bruce Jenners of the world. Now maybe you have a point there! Yeah, Brucie baby!! Those damn liberal commies have really started something there.

          11. AKLady says

            Conversation or insult.
            Pick one.

          12. Btty says

            Both apply in your case.

          13. AKLady says

            I am a medical professional.
            A woman can be as strong as a man, imost do not want to be.
            Women tend to have less strength demanding lives.

            If a woman trains with weight that meets her thresholds, she will gain strength at the same rate as a man who trains at the same level of intensity. In the absence of external-weighted load, women can be considered to be the supreme sex in sports reliant on rhythmic use of muscular coordination.

          14. Shaeri says

            Maybe with steroids, but I doubt it.

          15. AKLady says

            Many people doubt valid science.
            Some even think the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

          16. Btty says

            Stop your damn lying! You don’t impress me with your medical lack of knowledge dearie because I to am in the medical field and have been for well over 50 years and your just wrong again. Thats why men and women don’t compete against each other in weight lifting events. Come on AK that comment just makes you look really dumb.

          17. AKLady says

            Looking up the facts would take less time that writing insults.

          18. Craig Watts says

            I don’t think Btty was talking about the last episode of NCIS.

          19. AKLady says

            Are you really that stupid?

          20. Craig Watts says

            Are you?

          21. Miyako says

            the women you describe are…………..Males in A Women’s Body. Most Are Lesbians. They Hate ‘men’.

          22. AKLady says


          23. Ellen says

            Women are made to carry a child, not father it. Reason why God made the 2 sexes.

          24. AKLady says

            Your point is what?

          25. Craig Watts says

            Well great! Then start signing women up for the NFL and professional rugby.

          26. AKLady says

            I have a daughter who would probably do quite well.

          27. Ellen says

            Not true. Ask the medical profession. A 6′ man is generally stronger than a 6′ woman. And what if the woman has her monthly, will she be a capable combatant in a combat situation? She will be a liability, and this is no joke, when it is a matter of life and death.

          28. AKLady says

            Suggest you read up on Naomi Kutin

            Men have a higher incidence of death from almost every disease except three: benign tumors, disorders related to female reproduction, and breast cancer.

            Men have a higher rate of basal metabolism than women. The age-old myth of women having less muscular strength than men do is just that—a myth.

            Muscle pound to muscle pound, women and men are similar in strength. A strong woman is strong, Women’s muscles have the exact same strength as men do, and it is in fat distribution and lean body mass where they differ.

            Studies have shown that women build strength the same way men do yet without building as much muscle mass.

          29. glenn398 says

            Yea that is why when a women is attacked by a man they almost always loose. You are out of your mind as there is no such thing as equal size equal strength between a man and a women.

          30. Craig Watts says

            You want to let the rest of us in on WTF you are talking about… or is this another one of your own special secrets?

          31. AKLady says

            Actually, man and women are equal in strength. Men are simply larger. That, and the fact that “strong” women are frowned upon in American culture.

          32. Emma says


          33. AKLady says

            Inch for inch, pound for pound.
            A physically fit woman can be just as strong as a man of the same size.
            That is a scientific fact.

          34. Joe Toland says

            Ok, the fact stll remains that they all failed the test. If they are just as strong and faild the test, what should happen to them? FIRED!

          35. AKLady says

            How many men do you know that can pass the test?
            52 push-ups and 45 sit-ups in four minutes?

            Less than 2.5 seconds per action – not counting the time it takes to roll over — really?

          36. Emma says

            We want the best. If they can’t meet requirements go elsewhere.

          37. Joe Toland says

            Men or women, if they can’t pass the test too bad. Hit the road.

          38. AKLady says

            You did not answer the question.
            Why don’t you give it a try.

          39. Joe Toland says

            I’m not applying for the job. I’m a barber, they didn’t give me a license until I proved I could cut hair. If you’re not qualified for a job, you’re just not qualified.

          40. AKLady says

            Hair cut v. sit ups.
            Ok, if you say so.

          41. Craig Watts says

            Are you kidding? Even at 59 I can still do 60 sit-ups in less than 2 minutes, and 55 push ups in the same amount of time. Soldiers who would be the same age as the serving police officers do far better than I, including the women. So if these are the minimum standards that were expected, no one should have any reason to complain, particularly given the type of work that will be expected of them in the field.

          42. AKLady says

            Have you ever tried them in slow motion?
            Try it sometime, see how many you can do.

          43. Craig Watts says

            Obviously, the slower you move the less you do, but slower motion does eliminate the strain in situps. As for pushups… try the hold positions… get do even less. Both are pointless as it pertains to the standards required. It’s no different in the military… meet the standards or move on.

          44. AKLady says

            Quite the opposit, rising and lowering in slow moltion significantly increases the strength and control requirements.

            Assume the sit up position. Start a sit up, but stop about 3 to 6 inchs off the floor. See how long you can hold that position before your abdominals are screaming at you. That should get the point accross.

            Oh, and if you are smarter than the average bear, you will bend your knees while doing push ups. Doing so is far healthier for your back.

          45. denniscerasoli says

            That should settle it Joe,lol

          46. Joe Toland says

            I doubt it with that lady. The article is about equality and she’s all over the place. They give the same test to everybody (equal) and they failed. That’s not really hard to understand.

          47. denniscerasoli says

            That should sum it up.

          48. Raymond Tower says

            Then why change / lower the standards?

          49. AKLady says

            Simply, because they are unecessarily high.
            Such blocades were put in place to protect male employment opportunity.
            Rosie the Riveter could not be put back in her kitchen.

          50. Raymond Tower says

            Equal is equal. The men have to pass the same test. You don’t want equality, you want special treatment. Troll

          51. AKLady says

            Do some research.
            Look at the 1950s standards.
            Then look at the ones put in place in the 1960s and 1970s.

          52. Raymond Tower says

            I don’t have to do research, I spent 8 years in the U.S. Army I had to contiually pass the standards set. If I didn’t pass, then I was subject discharge. Try again.

          53. AKLady says

            I was married to a 30 year career officer. I watched him grow, year fter year. After 15 years, I bought twin beds. After 20, i divorced him. Sleep apnea affects the individual’s sleep and brain function. It also makes other people’s lives miserable, as they are also subjected to sleep disruption.

          54. denniscerasoli says

            I’m just curious,please don’t tell me that you divorced your husband over apnea,what ever happened to for better or worse or sickness and in health? If i am wrong in that assumption then excuse me and i stand corrected,that’s just the way it sounded.

          55. AKLady says

            Look up the psychological effects of sleep deprivarion.

            Sleep apnea causes many health problems, mental and physcial.
            Look up the effects of sleep deprivation: Temper, anger, violence, attention deficits, auto accidents. heart attack.

            He refused to obtain treatment. At that time the treatment of last resort was a tracheotomy. He refused to use prescriiption sleep medication.

            I made a choice between marriage and my children’s physical and mental security..

          56. Craig Watts says

            Bull… I had sleep apnea and all that is required is either removal of your tonsils, possibly your uvula and a portion of your pallet, or use of a sleeping mask which many in the military use. I had the surgery and sleep fine now. No one gives you a tracheotomy.

          57. AKLady says

            How did your wife feel about being smacked in the face, or
            whacked somewhere else 10 or more times a night?

            Did your teen children sleeping on the second floor complain about the noise?
            Guess you did not exhibit the startle reflex.

            Apparently, you used the CPAP machine.
            Well, some people refuse to.
            Oh. I put up with it for 20 years. Wives 2, 3, and 4 did not last very long.

          58. Craig Watts says

            Can’t really say… never hit the wife, didn’t have a second floor, and didn’t use the CPAP… just could not sleep, never hit REM sleep, and took the surgery to eliminate the restricted air flow.

          59. denniscerasoli says

            I can understand if your children were in harms way.

          60. Craig Watts says

            So you quit him when he got sick.
            So much for the “for better or worse” BS.

          61. Craig Watts says

            Your point being what?
            It doesn’t matter when standards are established. All that matters is whether you meet them or you don’t. If you can’t, then find another professional for which you are better suited, mentally and physically.

          62. AKLady says

            Oh, yes it does matter. It is a prime tool used for iscirmination.
            Standards can be set intentionally in a manner to diqualify sectors of the population. Companies are sued when such actions are taken.
            Standards that are not applicable to the job.

          63. Craig Watts says

            Standadrds are also required to make sure you have the best qualified… not simply the marginal few.

          64. AKLady says

            “Standadrds” ???

          65. Craig Watts says

            That’s all you have… a smirk comment regarding a typo?
            Don’t respond… I’ll delete the rest of our conversations at my end.

          66. AKLady says

            Just following your example.

          67. Emma says

            Why don’t you find a site with people who think as you do?

          68. AKLady says

            Apparently, you need people to pat you on the back.

          69. Emma says

            Actually, no, I don’t

          70. Craig Watts says

            Bellevue discontinued their “Tunes for Loons” site a long time ago.

          71. Craig Watts says

            No… standards are high to ensure the capability of personnel. That’s why they are called high standards instead of half-ass qualifications.

          72. AKLady says

            And if they required blue eyes?

            Do you actually believe these women would have gone to the expense of legal action if there did not exist significant medical science backing their claims?

            Lawyers, like everyone else, are in business to make a living. DO you really think a lawyer would take a case that could not be won on its merits?

            Get real.

          73. Craig Watts says

            Somehow I don’t see the blue eye issue being raised. But that’s just me.
            You may as well be stating, reading comprehensions should be optional.

          74. Craig Watts says

            Of course… that’s why they are always at the top of the list during the NFL draft. Oops. That would be men.
            Of course… that’s why they always end up at the top of the list at the Women’s PGA.

          75. AKLady says

            Apparently, you are not out in the woods in below zero weather.
            It is -10 F at my house today.

          76. denniscerasoli says

            That depends on what you call strong,my wife was feminine yet very strong and independent minded but a woman who liked being a woman if you understand my meaning.

          77. AKLady says

            No, I do not understand your meaning.

            My grandmoither had three doctoral degrees.
            She was an electrical engineer and a concert violinist.
            She marched for the womam’s right to vote.
            Is that what fits your discription of a “woman.”

            My mother was a physician.
            One of the first 11 women to become an anesthesologist.
            She worked for Standard Oil during WW II.
            She was the only woman at an oil camp in the Columbian jungle during that war.
            She adopted me when she was 55.
            Her natural children have children older than I am.
            Is that what fits your discription of a “woman”

            I’ve buried three husbands.
            Two died in war.
            One of a heart attack after 30 years in the military.
            Is that wha fits your discriptions of a “woman”?

            No, Dennis, I do not understand your meaning.
            However it soinds as though it is probably very sexist and biased.

          78. denniscerasoli says

            I don’t consider all you said as a man or a woman,anyone can do that if they want to.PHD’s,doctors,scientists,that has nothing to do with what i am talking about.That is why i said if you get my meaning,obviously you didn’t but that’s ok no big deal.

          79. denniscerasoli says

            Just to add the term sexist is thrown out there all the time,am i sexist if i don’t want woman in trenches and filth in combat? That is the only problem i have and i have 3 daughters who love their daddy.

          80. AKLady says

            “[A]m i sexist if i don’t want woman in trenches and filth in combat..?

            Yes, Dennis, you are.

            What about allowing your daughters making their own choices?

          81. denniscerasoli says

            They always have made their own choices and i don’t consider it sexist.You say it’s sexist so it’s sexist? I don’t think so sweetheart,i’ll define my thoughts not you or anyone else,ya see i am also independent.I don’t allow far left liberals to interpret my thoughts,woman do not belong in combat because it will weaken our forces,and if captured forget about it.We would be getting guys killed trying to prevent rape which would be the case are you kidding me?

          82. denniscerasoli says

            When i see photos of woman with no limbs while there are enough men in this country that could serve or even be drafted,to me that is not an honorable option.I respect the courage that these woman show,but as a man it bothers me that i woman would have to do that.Unfortunately men have been demasculated from being who they are in this so called enlightened age,and by the way most woman don’t want any part of it to begin with,you are in the minority.

          83. Craig Watts says

            The problem with your entire case of “men need to do the fighting instead of women” is simple. Some parents would rather see your daughters go than their sons. Especially when the chances of coming back broken and shattered are great and the cause is foolish.

          84. denniscerasoli says

            You probably have a good point.

          85. AKLady says

            You have three daughters, and I presume a wife, and you don’t know the first thing about women, let alone women in history. I feel for those girls.

            I have some real bad news for you. Women warriors have been some of the most vicious in history.

            You need to get an education. Apparently, the school you attended was not up to par.

          86. denniscerasoli says

            Now you are getting personnel when you say that you feel sorry for them,my wife died in 2012.I think that your real problem is something my daughters don’t have and that is penis envy,and i didn’t make that up.

          87. AKLady says


            The only time that happens is when the temp is below zero, I’m out in the woods hinting and nature calls. Yes, I admit to serious penis envy under those circumstances.

          88. Craig Watts says

            Vicious does not equate to effective.

          89. AKLady says

            Do you enjoy dropping your drawers at -20?
            Oh, sorry, you male ….;-)

          90. Craig Watts says

            Yeah… that’s right. We don’t do the #2.

          91. AKLady says

            While hiking around the wood with a rifle in your hands?

          92. Emma says

            It is quite obvious why your girls love their daddy. 🙂

          93. Ellen says

            Yes, but in this case it is physical fitness that was referred to. Women are strong in a lot of ways but physically, not as strong as a man, generally.

          94. denniscerasoli says

            That is all i am saying but the conversation goes all over the place,just saying that makes a man sexist to some and what is so terrible about it anyway.

          95. Ellen says

            Some men are sexist, some not. But if you take on a job you should be able to do it, whether you are a man or a woman. But generally men are physically stronger than women. And that is a fact.

          96. denniscerasoli says

            True,there are always exceptions to any rules.The Marines tested woman Marines for combat or grunt duty and it didn’t fit their criteria and i can tell you that woman Marine boot camp is tough and would bet that a lot of men couldn’t graduate woman Marine boot camp.The thing is that they don’t qualify up tp par with men who are already Marines and it shouldn’t be taken as a put down.I guess that several may have passed but not enough to change protocol.

          97. Emma says

            Not one blessed thing! I want to sit in my hubby’s lap. Don’t want a “man” who wants to sit in my lap!
            Really don’t see many real men any more, but maybe that’s because not too many real women. You reckon?

          98. denniscerasoli says

            Maybe i’m just to old fashioned but that’s how i see it.Again i have a lot of respect for the woman and their courage,but what really bothers me and perhaps i’m a romantic,i don’t like seeing a woman come back from a combat zone with her husband meeting her at the air port with the little children.I am a firm believer that a child needs a male dad and a female mother,and i also firmly believe that only a mother can nurture a child.When i was small it was always mama mama,although i do remember by little daughter at the time say,i want my daddy,lol,My three daughters are all in their forties,as matter of fact since my wife died in 2012 i moved in with my daughter and grand children,yet AKlady feels sorry for my girls.

          99. Emma says

            I so sorry you lost your wife, & your girls their mama…but… I also have to say I surely understand why they love their daddy.
            Little girls need their daddys, &generally look for a man much like their daddy. You were the one who taught them the qualities a good man pocesses. God Bless you .
            Ak is a head full of mush I think.

          100. denniscerasoli says

            thanks Emma,Ak thinks i am putting woman down but that isn’t the case at all.

          101. Patriot068 says

            Exactly!! I dare anyone visit a fire station and an Engine Company or Heavy Rescue and yes their are some women on them ( wouldn’t consider some women) but that is an ass busting job. I give my hat off to any woman who aspires and makes the cut. But no cutting corners on physical requirements!! Like these 12 whiners are doing. If you can’t pass the minimal physical entry then bye bye!! Both men and women

          102. Patriot068 says

            To add onto your post yeah I’ve met women who are weak physicaly but damned ran circles around me in other ways! Who supposedly keeps a family unit together??talk to a Military wife

          103. Emma says

            Or a real country woman.. 😉

          104. AKLady says

            Amen to that one.
            Military is very difficult on families.
            However, military children tend to be more mature and goal oriented.
            While they complain of leaving friends, they also speak to the the wonderufl things they have had the privilege to do and see.

          105. Ellen says

            I agree with you. If you take on a job, you should be able to do it, whether you are a man or a woman.

          106. AKLady says

            Seen any fat, out of shape police officers lately?
            Seen any fat, out of shape firemen lately?

          107. AKLady says

            Are you of the opinion that gender discrimination does not exist?

            Where in this article does it give the data on the number of men that fail the phusical test?

            Where in this article does it state how frequently thode alrrsdy hired are required to requalify?

          108. muskat antonopolis says

            strength to perform certain physical functions….men labor to provide and protect
            (in theory anyway) and women are designed to carry the next generation…disagree? talk with the Creator….

          109. AKLady says

            Except when it comes to endurance, pain tollerance and brain functon, women are the stronger sex.

          110. muskat antonopolis says

            well, I contend that your statement is correct as my wife has had this pain in her
            butt for many years now and has endured it w/o complaint….what is the old
            saying…a mans work is from sun to sun but a womans work is never done?
            However, 2 of 3 is as far as I will concede….I will say there are exceptions AND
            it depends or whether you are speaking of Horse Sense or someone with an
            idiot savant type intellect…..have a nice day

          111. AKLady says

            Decidedly truthful, but not entirely.
            However, your wife is a very lucky woman. 😉

          112. muskat antonopolis says

            ah-ha, I very humbly accept the kind remarks that i so richly deserve.ha ha.
            she is indeed a fortunate woman…God has blessed her with not only
            physical beauty but internal beauty as well….very rare combination
            in todays world……thank you….

          113. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            If that is true, then why are the performance standards being lowered for women?

          114. AKLady says

            This article is not about performamce standards.
            It is about unecessarily high entry standards designed to keep women out of jobs.
            Colorado Sprimgs is a military town.

          115. muskat antonopolis says

            disagree with you…and…a very weak “factual” rebuttal…….

          116. Craig Watts says

            Then the female police officers should have no problems passing the test, unless of course they just want to fail and get fired.

          117. AKLady says

            Craig, I hate to tell you this, discrimination still exists. It is not all racial. Not, only does it still exist, but is seemingly getting worse in some areas. Women’s pay is one of them.

          118. Craig Watts says

            Of course it does… that is how you distinguish the capable from the incapable, the literate from the illiterate, and the good from the bad. There are always standards and requirements, whether personal or business related. Faced with filling one position with 30 applicant, few employers are going to defer to the “first come first served” pratice used at the coffee stand, nor should they.

          119. AKLady says

            The city is known as the Evangelical Vatican. It has also been called the Christian Mecca. Possibly that information provides some enlightenment?

            The existing male officers are not required to pass those tests.

            Outside of religious organizations, the U.S. Government is its largest employer.

            The Air Force Academy is there. There are two Air Force Bases and an Army Base located there.

            The next largest employer group is manufacture of highly technical, complex electronics: HP, Verizon, SNIA, Agilent, LSI Corp….

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          121. BigGoofyGuy says

            Those women who meet the requirements without having to get exceptions might complain about those who do.

          122. denniscerasoli says

            they just might.

        3. maxx says

          I believe the Marine Corps Commandant has already pushed back at the Pentagon goof that has demanded that the Seals must integrate women into the group. Basically he as refused to put the lives of other members of a Seal Team in jeopardy due to this nonsense. I hope he continues to stand firm. Killing someone with a rifle at 20 yard is a far cry from doing it during hand-to-hand when stealth is necessary. Political correctness is a joke in society but it is deadly in the military.

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          2. Ellen says

            Not only stealth, but strength too. Why does this have to be legislated? If a female would like to join, she should be put through the same test and rigor as the men. If she passes then she can join. Not before.

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      2. junkmailbin says

        according to scuttlebutt, pass the test and you get the pin. The current test is rated as the minimum standard acceptable to carry out the SEALs missions

        1. muskat antonopolis says

          where does an 800 lb gorilla sleep? any place he/she wants to…..ha ha…all of
          this talk…if a gal can do it then by all means let her…she bleeds red just like
          a guy when busted open…hey…I FIRMLY believe that all people between 18-
          25 male or female (and in betweens), should in some capacity serve this
          Nation IF they are Citizens….even if the person is confined to a wheelchair, they
          can still serve and should…it is simply illogical that more are NOT required to
          serve and gain some insight how the OTHER lives….maturing to say the least.
          what a waste to deny participation in the defense and development of this
          Nation to EVERY Citizen…….well, gotta go do my constitutional…go to Walmart…

      3. AKLady says

        When I was a young teen, I was still a tomboy. My cousin had the disciplinary platoon at PI. He snuck me in, and had me run the obstacle course with his men. I was allowed one cheat. My pack weighed 40 lbs rather than 80. At the end, he called me front and center and pulled my helmet off. My hair fell to my waist. I am given to understand that undertaking became a story repeated for decades.
        At 13, 5’9″ and weighing 190 lb, I could compeat wth men age 17 through 31.
        I strongly suspect I coild have contributed equally in a Seal Team.

        1. OSAMA OBAMA says

          Another internet warrior! And I kicked Chuck Norris’ ass too.

          1. AKLady says

            Chuckie boy was an actor.
            I have know many women who
            could qualify for the Seal Tesm.
            You are simply an bigoted fool.

          2. James Maxwell says

            Chuck Norris was in the AF and he also trained in the Martia Arts with Bruce Lee
            and was in a Movie with him. Yes he became a Movie person but he has the
            skill set to perform and the record to back him up. check out the facts first.

          3. Deby says

            thanks for pointing that out–I just getting ready to call her out on that one.!!

          4. Ed Watson says

            He was also 6 time middleweight Karate champ. He became a black belt when he was stationed in Korea. He currently holds a 9th degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Good on calling AKlady out.

          5. AKLady says

            Once upon a time, we were all great.
            Then we grew up and out, with age.

          6. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Once upon a time you were never great.

          7. AKLady says

            Do you always measure everyone by your failures?

          8. Vassiliki says

            speak for yourself. I did not grow up and out with age even after having children. It is called taking care of your body

          9. AKLady says

            Conversation or insult
            You picked insult.
            Game over.

          10. Vassiliki says

            The only one that can insult is you. You insult when you have nothing to say and when you are in the wrong. Go shovel some snow

          11. OSAMA OBAMA says

            It’ll be a first if she does.

          12. sbeer101 says

            In early 1968, Norris suffered the tenth and last loss of his
            career, losing an upset decision to Louis Delgado. On November 24, 1968,
            he avenged his defeat to Delgado and by doing so won the Professional
            Middleweight Karate champion title, which he held for six consecutive
            years.[11] In 1969, he won Karate’s triple crown for the most tournament wins of the year, and the Fighter of the Year award by Black Belt (magazine) magazine.

            Norris made history in 1990 when he was the first Westerner in the documented history of Tae Kwon Do to be given the rank of 8th Degree Black Belt Grand Master.[16]
            In 1999, Norris was inducted into the Martial Arts History Museum’s
            Hall of Fame. On July 1, 2000, Norris was presented the Golden Lifetime
            Achievement Award by the World Karate Union Hall of Fame.

          13. AKLady says

            Can you recite even two facts about any of the historic female warrors in the folliwing list? (No fsair looking them up)

            5th Century CE – Princess Sela
            5th Century CE – Princess Sela
            529 CE – Princess Halima
            530 CE – Tomyris
            590 CE – The Christian Synod of Druim Cett ordered that British women should no longer go into battle alongside their men
            598 – 623 CE – Princess Zhao Pingyang
            624 CE – Hind al-Hunnud
            625 – 705 CE – Wu Chao, known as ‘The Empress Wu’
            625 CE – Nusaybah bint Ka’ab
            c.632 – 705 CE – Apranik
            639 CE – Negan
            7th century CE – Dahia Al-kahina
            722 CE – Queen Aethelburgh
            c.730s CE (active in) – Parsbit (also as Prisbit)
            c.750 CE – Azad Deylami / Azad-e Daylami
            c.783 CE – Fastrada
            c.815 – 838 CE – Banu
            890 – 969 CE – Olga of Kiev (Princess Olga), 69 – 918 CE – Ethelfleda

          14. sbeer101 says

            Why? It’s totally off topic.

          15. AKLady says

            Equality and physical requirements are the topics.
            Those are women noted for their killing ability in battle.

            Do you think those women could pass the “physical” requirements?
            Tne ones designed to prevent women from being hired?

          16. sbeer101 says

            Even you can’t really be stupid enough to believe that’s what the guidelines are for. And odds are those women would not have passed the tests either.

          17. AKLady says

            You obviously were not around for the 1950s and 60s.
            Tell me, can you do a dull situp ever 2.5 seconds?
            That is the alleged “male” requirement.

          18. sbeer101 says

            I was around for the “60s, a little too young in the “50s, but that’s not really relevant to THIS topic. A lot has changed in the last fifty years. Perhaps you should look into it. And I have no idea what a “dull situp” is.

          19. AKLady says

            A typo.

          20. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            For every one of those women you listed, there have been millions of men. I’m pretty sure it helped to be a Princess or Queen with bodyguards, unlike the ordinary foot soldier.

          21. AKLady says

            You would be wrong.
            History is a wonderful thing, you might try some.

          22. Jarhead says

            During female menstruation or menopause dysfunctional periods I’m sure her dyke friends could come close to the male standards.

          23. AKLady says

            The Marines used to be a lot more fussy about what they let in their ranks.

          24. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yup, now you liberals will reduce the standards so anybody can sluff in!! Again, the left destroys the moral of our fighting forces.

          25. AKLady says

            Talking about yourself, as usual.

          26. muskat antonopolis says

            u r as strong as ur wurst enema…..haha (enemy)

          27. AKLady says

            What a crock. Boy have you been brainwashed.

          28. OSAMA OBAMA says

            More internet foolery! “I have know many women who
            could qualify for the Seal Team.” LMAO!!

          29. AKLady says

            Foolish, inexperienced, ignorant child.
            You must live in a cave.

          30. AKLady says

            You are an ass, a very big one.
            You have proved that repeatedly.

          31. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yours and Ohillary’s are twice as big as mine!

        2. RMCSRET says

          No you did not compete with the MEN you cheated while trying to compete with the
          men. Go back and try it with the 80 Pound pack and get back to us.

          1. dude says

            100% right you want to compete with men and be treated the same then like the man said put the 80 pound pack on then try it again equally this time you may not far as good …but if you do then you should be treated so

          2. AKLady says

            I was 13.

          3. Vassiliki says

            13 and weighed 190!!!!!!!!! you sure were big! at 13 I was 2 inches shorter than you and weighed 95 pounds! you were fat and I have no idea how you could even run!

          4. AKLady says

            Probably had a frame line one of those wire dress forms.
            My bones are as large as a man’s.
            Every one in my family has large frames.
            None of us are obese.
            Makes me think of the man in my husband’s unit that they were having to process out because he exceeded the weight limits. Took an act of Congress for him to stay in. He did not have an ounce of fat on his body.

          5. Vassiliki says

            Bones as large as a man- at 13?….I do not know many 13 YO big boned boys that weigh 190 pounds and aren’t overweight. so since you were large as a man then why not carry a full pack of 80 pounds. I do not care that you were 13- you could do it then if same as a man. No reply is warranted. You are full of yourself

          6. AKLady says

            Let’s see, there was these four boys, two of which are buried at Arlington.
            Three of them were 6′ by age 13. (One was thin as a rail, two were right at 200 lb. Their father was also of that build.
            We are done here.
            Go argue with someone else.

          7. AKLady says

            You are a joke.
            Give it up.
            Lead me to your time machine,
            I’ll gladly go back to the 1960s
            Do you really think 40 pounds is that significant?
            Obviously, you do not have children, or do housework.

        3. grama18 says

          Honey — YOU cheated your pack did not weigh the same ! ! STOP gloating — so your tall and you at the time were athletic ! SO what !! There was a time I was fit as a fiddle ! and I might have been able to do it. BUT ! I am 5’1. SO I do have my limitations . But 5 children later and I still only weigh 118 lbs. 4 lbs overweight not bad ! Working on that problem.

          1. cal3301 says

            Sorry, but 5’9″ and 190 is obese for a girl at that age. I played football at 5’9″ and only weighed in at 140. The most I achieved in weight was 160 and I was bench pressing 350 with my legs at that time and grew to 5’10”. I played sports all my life and my dad was a Marine who built us our own obstacle course.

          2. AKLady says

            Sorry, child, but 5’9″ with a large frame 190 is not obease for a woman.

          3. cal3301 says

            Sorry, but it is. I have a large frame too and at that height, never topped more that 140. I was solid muscle with a wash board abs, while you were just flab at your weight. FYI, my whole family carried full packs, not half.
            You are also a lousy speller and it has nothing to do with your typing skills, as the letters aren’t even close. Oh, and don’t bother to respond, you’re still on my lawyers watch list.

          4. AKLady says

            Large frame? By who’s definition?

          5. cal3301 says

            Because there is no “A” in obese. Do not respond to me. I do have a lawyer and you are being watched.

          6. AKLady says

            Get psychiatric help.

          7. AKLady says

            I’m sitting here laughing so hard I can hardly type.
            I am a large frame woman — my wrist measurement is over an inch larger than the elbow measure ment for a 6 ft, “medium frame” man.
            I’m only 5’8″ and I am not obease.

          8. cal3301 says

            Large frame is large bone asshole.

          9. Vassiliki says

            you weren’t a woman yet- you were 13. you were fat

          10. AKLady says

            Honey, could you have done it at 13?
            Did you even have the height at age 13 to pull it off.

          11. Vassiliki says

            she isn’t that tall- she was fat at 190! I am only 2 inches shorter and weigh 110 now at age 48. at 13 I weighed 95. She is totally BSing. I was athletic and still am. I can handle a 40# pack now no problem. An 80# pack – no way. But with her weight at 190 which is double my weight she could have handled it even at age 13. But you are right point is that her pack did not weigh the same as the men even though she probably weighed the same- she cheated and is gloating over it

        4. dude says

          I highly dought it most men doesn’t make it and unless they change the rules for woman so they can pass the test which should not be done for anyone …the point that people are missing is that women are not as strong as men on an equal playing field plain and simple …does this mean they can’t do a job… a few jobs yes most jobs no …as far as the book learning part and the rest there probably a little better than men…I just don’t no why women want to try to always compete with men or be one and the one that do are mostly lesbians which is a mental condition and shouldn’t be let in the military anyway

          1. AKLady says

            I seriously do not believe you have the qualificaions to make such deisions.

            Canada passed an equal pau law. America refused to do so.

            American women are paid $0.70 to each $1.00 paid to a man — even when they ware better educated and more experienced. That is better than when I started my first job. Back then it was $0.60 to the $1.00.

            Women officers in the American military are limited as to how high they can be promoted — because they are not allowed to serve in combat positions. Never mind they do — all the time — simply because positiolns are misidentified.

        5. Brenda says

          As a “tomboy” I too did many nonconventional things that the other girls did not do. My dad was in the Army and I trained in a lot of the military skills. But, even then dad’s one piece of advice I never forgot was: Always carry an equalizer. There will always be circumstances that come up where strength and training fail you. Especially if you are a woman facing a large man in hand to hand engagement.

          1. AKLady says

            Unquestionably, Seal Team menbers carry “equalizers” and they are male.
            On the other hand, adrenaline is a very interesting drug. As a child, I watched a woman pick up the front of a car to free her son who’s leg was trapped under a wheel.

        6. Gene says

          You are in a dream.When you wake up please come back and apologize.I don’t know what Marine Corps some of these guys were in,but the one I was in would be impossible for any woman that was a born female to survive.I will not wait here to see the ridiculous responces.Maybe the new Marine Corps that has to allow homosexuals can be matched with your fitness program…Good night.

          1. AKLady says

            My, my a bit touchy arn’t you.
            Physically fit women can complete the PI obstacle course.
            There was no “New” Corps in 1964.

      4. RMCSRET says

        Already being pushed by the OBAMA Administration.

      5. denniscerasoli says

        This will probably happen but it could fail.I’m a former Marine so i follow a lot of their news but you may already know this.The Marine Corps did experiment with a lot of woman Marines in direct combat requirements and it was a complete failure so i don’t think the Seals will lower their standards.Just an opinion,and if they do it will weaken our force’s in my view.

        1. melmack 1 says

          I respect your opinion and certainly hope and pray that the Obama supporting Military Brass do not put this experiment into effect. I was Navy and we didn’t have females with us back then. In the private world they did bring women into the tech work force and male techs went nuts doing the females work until they got into trouble for neglecting their own…LOL

      6. Brenda says

        Fairness and “their turn” are poor excuses to engage anyone. Especially in combat roles where other’s lives depend on your ability to support your team mate.

        1. melmack 1 says

          The majority of THINKING people agree with you. Unfortunately a lot of PC people at the top disagree and want every playing field to be level, regardless.

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    2. pineapple says

      What about sissy men who can’t pass the tests? Can they also sue because the tests are unfair to sissy men?

      1. kotoc says

        Love it!!! LMAO!!

        1. pineapple says

          What about us old farts that can’t pass the tests? Can we sue because the test is unfair to us old farts?

          I could have passed the tests in my younger days, but now that I am an old fart, about the only thing I can pass is gas.

          1. kotoc says

            LOL! You and me both! However, MY problem with getting a decent job nowadays is because I live in Texas, don’t have a trade or profession, and I don’t speak Spanish. This opens up a whole new can of worms, doesn’t it?

          2. AKLady says

            Well, maybe you should get a trade or profession?
            There are free langiage courses on the Internet.

          3. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Are there spelling and proof reading courses?

          4. AKLady says

            I am a very bad typist.
            I openly admit it.
            If this were work instead of play,
            I might bother to find software to replace what
            was losr when my system went down
            But since I do not give a royal d$$$,
            you can stick it in your ear.

          5. OSAMA OBAMA says

            It takes 5 seconds to proof read. You can stick it in your Obama.

          6. AKLady says

            But since I do not give a royal d$$$,
            you can stick it in your ear.

          7. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Keep replying twit! LMAO!

          8. AKLady says

            You are so easy.
            You don’t even recognize you are being played.

          9. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Akc is easy! The muSLIME rapists line up twenty deep.

          10. AKLady says

            Your mother is calling.’
            She says you have to got to go to bed…
            you are getting up for church in the morning.

          11. AKLady says

            You assume I value your opinion.
            Like all your other assumptions, that on is also wrong.

          12. RMCSRET says

            Got news for ya girl the software you are using has a spell checker try and learn
            how to use it.

          13. AKLady says

            Internet Explorer does not have a buit-in spell checker.
            You are welcome to come see if you can fix the problem.
            Three computer experts have tried.

          14. Deby says

            btw–you are also a very bad liberal obamabot who really should think before you type advice to everyone who even remotely disagrees with you.

          15. muskat antonopolis says


          16. Brenda says

            As if life were that simplistic. And just why should American citizens be required to learn a foreign language to accommodate foreigners, many of which are here illegally, and all refuse to learn English?

          17. AKLady says

            Yes, well the “Ugly American” expects the entire world to speak English.
            Americans are getting a taste of their own medicine.

            A busniess depends on its customers. If you wan customers, you serve their needs and wants.

            Most Europeans speak multiple lamgiages. During the Cold War, Cuban students were required to become fluent in English, Rusiian and multiple Spanish dialects.

          18. DOUGLAS GILLARD says

            If I go to another nation, I don’t expect them to speak English . However, if someone moves to my nation, I expect them to learn English. Go to France and tell them they must speak English to accommodate you.

          19. kotoc says

            Forgive my ignorance, but what is a “langiage”? Did you mean to say “language”?

          20. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I can’t resist either kotoc. It’s always the left that spews how scholarly THEY are and how uneducated we are. Then you have AKC!

          21. AKLady says

            I freely admit to being a bad typist.
            Save your insults for someone they can impress.
            I am not one of them.

          22. Jarhead says

            So that’s where your learned gobbledygook. Or was it the PCP?

          23. IMSweetOlBob says

            pineapple :
            Same here. Anymore, I don’t do push-ups, I do push-aways, and if you’re talking about dinner tables, the sawbones says I do far too few of them. Same thing for beer bars.

          24. AKLady says

            There are quite a few fat old farts on police forces.

            Many could not walk a block without stopping to rest.

            Too many free donuts and coffee.

          25. pineapple says

            Does this mean that those who don’t qualify should not be accepted, or does it mean that standards should be lowered to allow those who don’t qualify?

          26. AKLady says

            If male, once accepted you can let yourslef go and keep your job.
            If means that many males on the force are less qualified than the females who are rejected.

          27. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Your OPINION! Like azzholes, everyone has one, STUPID!

          28. AKLady says

            Osama has never seen an obese cop.
            He lives in another universe.

          29. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yup! In my universe, liberals tell the truth, work, care about America, pay their taxes, are beautiful, don’t spew nonsense…………………………………..

          30. Mark Lahti says

            Oh, please pineapple, don’t feed the trolls. This one in particular is the queen of liberal trolls. I’ve seen you on here often enough to already know this. But you should also know that you can not reason with a liberal troll, especially this one.

          31. OSAMA OBAMA says

            BOOM! Now here comes the tired rebuttal.

          32. Deby says

            LOL you are so right!! she cuts and pastes her few pat responses-if you read her posts (I know.. boring) they pretty much all say the same tired libtard essays on why you are wrong and she is right.

          33. OSAMA OBAMA says

            You must love Black Lives Matter.

          34. AKLady says

            I witnessed segregation.
            I also knew a woman who had been a slave.

            I also grew up next door to a HungarianAmerican woman who survived a German death camp.

            I susepct you never had those experiences.

            All lives matter, Osama.
            Everyone bleeds and dies.

          35. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I forgot! You have done everything, seen everything, been everywhere, lived everywhere, performed every job, held every office, know everyone…………….

          36. AKLady says

            When you grow up,
            you may be fortunate enough
            to experience a full life.

            Of course, that would
            require the right education and daring.
            I doubt you wil ever have either.

          37. OSAMA OBAMA says

            You are even more stupid that Ohillary! A much bigger liar as well!

          38. AKLady says

            Join the military.
            Free room, board and world travel.

          39. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Kind of like the grifter in the White House. Except he can’t even salute a Marine properly! Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! What a jackoff.

          40. AKLady says

            More proof of your ignorance.
            There is no such thing as a “proper” civilian salute.
            Another game started by Saint Reagan — he did not do it any better than Obama.
            No President in office before Reagan ever saulted.

          41. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Why do you think it is acceptable to lie?…What a jackoff.

          42. AKLady says

            More proof of your ignorance.
            Not one lie, little boy.
            Look up the facts.
            I did.

          43. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I searched the entire internet and found nothing! YOU LIED AGAIN, JUST LIKE A TYPICAL LIBTURD!

          44. AKLady says

            YOo must be very bad at searching.

            There is one to get you started.


            Come back and apologize like a “real” man instead of an angry little boy.

          45. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Where do I start! I visited your sordid site and realized it is just another leftist, anti-American military site, masquerading as a patriotic forum!!
            Reagan started saluting our military men and women out of his great RESPECT for them! He didn’t have a cup of coffee in his hand, or look off as he passed the gallant Marine! Obama disgusts me, HE DISGUSTS other patriotic Americans and our military men and women. You and your ilk, OF COURSE, put him on a pedestal.
            I apologize to great Americans everywhere for the fraud impostor in the White House.

          46. AKLady says

            You forget many things.
            You mudt take after your mother.
            She forgot to teach you manners.

          47. Deby says

            she is quite the legend in her own mind-that is a fact sir!!

          48. Vassiliki says

            you haven’t either- you just know someone that knew someone, etc. My parents both were teens during WWII in Greece and survived the Natzis and famine. My fiance’s parents also survived the same in Greece, most of my friend’s parents same thing- so literally I know hundreds of people and their war/horror stories of growing up under the occupation of the Natzi regime….next….and what does this have to do about the women that failed the test?

          49. AKLady says

            Maybe you should repeat basic arithmatic class.
            I would also suggest you review American History.

            What does it have to do with discrimination against women? If you can’t figure it out, I feel great sadness for you.

            The great-grandmother of one of my school classmates was 102.
            Not only was she a former slave, but was a “service provider” in the Storyville, Louisana famous whorehouse for which the ballad “The House of the Rising Sun” was written. The origial version of that song dates to the 1930s.

          50. AKLady says

            All lives matter, well maybe excepr yours.

          51. Mark Lahti says

            While you’re sitting on the throne praying for something more. Yes, I get it. Been there, done that, still have the t-shirt.

          52. AKLady says

            Excuses, you shoul shave stayed in shape.
            In this day and agw, age is not an excuse until you are over 80, if then.

      2. icetrout says

        how bout police K-9’s? will pugs now make the grade???

        1. AKLady says

          Are their teeth sharp?

          There was this robbery report in the Miami Herald, back in the 1950s.

          It told about a robbery foiled by a house cat.

          A Siamese cat jumped the robber and kept him pinned to the floor until police arrived. Cat had its claws embedded next to the robber eyes.

          1. kotoc says

            That’s an outstanding cat!! I would dearly love to see the article if you can find it.

          2. AKLady says

            Look up the email address for the Miami Hearld (Florida not Ohio).
            Write and ask them if they still have a copy.
            It has been over 50 years.

          3. AKLady says

            I did a quick Internet search. There are a number of similar, true stories published.

      3. denniscerasoli says

        You are correct,in the Marines every member regardless of where he ends up is still a basic rifleman and would be called if needed,During the war in Vietnam they couldn’t push them through fast enough for Nam,but today they are even more particular,not all Marines have qualified for grunt duty.When i joined in 1961 they were still using the M1 rifle and my weapon of choice was the BAR,i never got a chance to pick up an M16,i did have an M14 which was the worse weapon ever made,a lot of Marines were killed because the M14 jammed and they were over ran very early in the war.To tell you the truth i’m not sure if i could pass the intelligence test to get in,lol lol

      4. muskat antonopolis says

        we called them “candy asses” and boy did they get ridiculed..not everybody should
        go to college…not everybody should (can) be a warrior…..lots of ways to serve your
        country and everybody should for a min. 2 yrs.

    3. AKLady says

      That form of discrimination was used to keep women off police forces.
      Then, a huge discovery was made. The brute strength was not necessary.
      Women simply did not cause or encourage anger and confrontation.

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  7. melmack 1 says

    Well, the first time someone DIES because one of these B..es cannot do their job the dept, and they will be sued … if the judge rules in favor of the B..es then he should be sued also. Please God, take LIBERALS from this earth. Venus would be a great place for them to get a new start!!

    1. Scrubjay says

      Our right to be defended (a right because we pay for it, and give them police powers, which have gotten out of hand) apparently is moot.

      The issue is: these unfit women have a right to a job for which they clearly don’t qualify, simply due to their interest and sex. What other qualification does one need for any job?

      Anything less is ___ist. Fill in the blank with any Progressive/Liberal buzzword. To the polluted Liberal mind, this is just and right.

      “It’s all upside down” Charlton Heston, Planet of the Apes.

      Happy Thanksgiving!

      1. melmack 1 says

        You are correct. Enjoy the day and the turkey !!!

  8. Scrubjay says

    This is really stupid. How can they expect to protect and serve if they aren’t fit enough to defend themselves. Will they dust go directly to deadly force?

    Another great example of the inherent failure of affirmative action hiring.

    1. holyblood1 says

      you are right we have enough male cop shooters out there we don’t need anymore shooters.

      1. sbeer101 says

        “Idiot, go take that liberal crap to some other site, only intelligent people that can think and reason are here”.

        1. holyblood1 says

          yea you should not be on here with comments like that. There has been time after time that some of these cops have been in jail, arrested, and fired for abuse, unnecessary shootings, killings and still brainless people like you still wont accept it, go some where else until you can see the truth and stop being part of the problem.

          1. Walter H WILSON3rd says

            holyblood1, you could’t fill the requirements for a SPARE TIRE in a Police unit !!

          2. sbeer101 says

            First, your comments have nothing to do with the topic which makes you a troll. Second of course there are bad apples in the police departments of this country. However your comments would seem to lead to the conclusion that all cops are ruthless killers. And that’s just stupid.

        2. muskat antonopolis says

          and are you sure about that statement?..i mean there is some really childish
          behavior being exhibited by some seemingly intelligent people…which spells
          to my way of thinking IMMATURITY…..

      2. Walter H WILSON3rd says

        Do you know how many HOLES YOU HAVE IN YOUR? ONE MORE WON’T MATTER!

      3. Scrubjay says

        I know, we need more female gang-bangers to do the shooting. Their men are disproportionately represented in the jails.

  9. John Adams says

    I don’t understand the problem with these women, they are required to perform a job that is dangerous at times and physical so get in shape or do they expect the male officers to cover there ass when things get rough. Find another job.

    1. glenn398 says

      John yes they have always expected a man to cover their ass and it has been going on for as long as I can remember.

      1. melmack 1 says

        Even happens in the tech world

        1. glenn398 says

          Have no doubt man has taken the brunt of this B.S. for far too long.

  10. 8milereb says

    Same thing in the mlitary, however women have lower requirements, ie; Males 40 pushups, Females 25′ same with sit ups and run, all lower standards. But take these lower requirements and equate them to same pay, go figure

    1. Jarhead says

      Female Combat Comfort Soldiers really only have to be able to spread their legs…..no need for any other female Standards.

      1. kotoc says

        That’s very sexist…. and very offensive to all women. You must be trolling just for grins, and getting negative responses.

        1. RoadRules says

          Y’KNOW; kotoc; that does sound sexist. But when you look at the total REALITY of the situation; ALL spin; misinformation; disinformation; smoke; and PC aside; is it REALLY better for American National Security and Defense to have Women Combat Battalions on the front lines. I seriously don’t think so. CAN you picture; or imagine an all women combat forces coming in contact and battle with a crack Russian or Chinese unit in the field? Who ARE absolutely trained to maim; cripple; and thoroughly destroy ANYTHING ” Amerikanski ” NO military in the world should be someone elses idea of a Social Experiment.

          1. kotoc says

            So….. women need only to “spread their legs?” Were you being sarcastic?

          2. Jarhead says


          3. real talk 1 says

            Just plain stupid !!

          4. glenn398 says

            Yes try hand to hand combat and see if there is even one woman survivor, don’t think there will be.

          5. BIGOTIST says

            ya know, ya gotta a good idea there!!! lets take a bunch of these equal opportunists splittails and send their battalion to wipe out issis- they bleed the same as men, so let ’em bleed~

        2. Jarhead says

          What is the true purpose of a Female Combat Companion if not to “COMFORT” the males who have borne the pain of battle?

          1. kotoc says

            There’s a word that describe guys like you……. you may be familiar with it. !!!!!

          2. BIGOTIST says

            evidently you were never in combat with a
            useless splittail bitchin n cryin??????

          3. kotoc says

            Apparently, you’re too stupid and lazy to have kept up with the ENTIRE conversation…. if you had bothered to look at my first comment….

            kotoc • 10 hours ago

            “What’s fair is fair… like it or not, if a woman wants to do the same kind of work that requires as much physical strength and stamina as a man, she should be ABLE to perform the same tasks that are required. If a police officer has to physically run down and overcome a criminal, the criminal won’t say, “Oh, it’s a woman cop…. I’ll give myself up and go easy on her… even if she ain’t pretty.” If you want a particular job, no matter what gender you are, you have to be CAPABLE of doing it.”
            You would have noticed that I suggested that not all women are capable of doing a man’s job. But… NOOOOOOO…. you have to chime in with sexist, stupid, asinine remarks like how a woman is only good for a man’s sexual pleasure. You are such a LOSER!!

          4. BIGOTIST says

            well touchhole, I initially upvoted your post and was actually commenting on your reply to Jarhead-

            Evidently your too stupid or lazy or actually pussy whipped to relate!!!!!! SO, ckbrth, were you in the front lines or combat with a splittail??? I don’t mean in the kitchen-

            Fckn LOSER!!!!!!

          5. BIGOTIST says

            well touchhole, I initially upvoted your post and was actually commenting on your reply to Jarhead-
            Evidently your too stupid or lazy or actually pussy whipped to relate!!!!!! SO, ckbrth, were you in the front lines or combat with a splittail??? I don’t mean in the kitchen~

          6. Jarhead says

            Appreciate the comment:
            P = Personable
            R = Right-on
            I = Intelligent
            C = Christian
            K = Kibitzer
            Thank You !

        3. Jarhead says

          Would it be less Sexist to say women in combat are there to provide “Happy Endings”??. Yours is the only semi-negative responses …… all the rest say “Let the gals roll”.

          1. kotoc says

            Please do yourself a favor and stop drinking the bong water before you post… you seem to have NO clue about what’s reality anymore.

        4. Jarhead says

          Tell me what other purpose would a female soldier perform in a combat zone??
          The standards where set thousands of years ago kotoc for your enlightenment.

    2. Dolores Wieland says

      Bmlereb…requirements need to be the same for both male, female…oh and transgenders…One should NEVER lower job standards for women

    3. david b cordick says

      not to mention the fact that they can take the tests for all rates in the navy. bosuns mates have to have strength enough to pull their own weight up the lines on a stage over the side of the ship. if you cant you are in a world of trouble. and i have seen navy tugs come along side with two third class bosuns mates female and one seaman, when a carrier lowers their towing lines to the tugs its always a struggle to haul it in with three men on it. the two females sat on their asses and just watched the seaman try to do it himself. i yelled at the tug captain, and all he could do was raise his arms in despair. i had to send two of my men down to help the seaman hook us up. when i was through with my duties i went down to the tug and informed the young ladies exactly what i thought of them, the tug captain had a big smile also his seaman, along with a bunch of my men that were watching from the ports of the ship. when i finished the girls were hanging their heads, what made it even worse was the fact that my men were clapping and cheering. i have no trouble with women in the services, but they must be able to perform the job that they want, without special treatment of any kind.

  11. 8milereb says

    First time a citizen dies and it can be proven a result of a not so fit female officer, sue the crap of the Police Dept, sad but a reality

    1. melmack 1 says

      It probably isn’t the police dept making the rules. It is some LIBERAL judge after the item becomes a law suit. One can always turn over a rock and find a lawyer to take your case.

  12. 8milereb says

    Trust me as in the military males do the lions share of heavy lifting while the females whatch and btw gets the same pay

    1. Dolores Wieland says

      Yep! And that is completely wrong! I hate feminists

  13. 8milereb says

    what will happen is the courts will lower the standards for both, thus giving us fat obese out of shape police officers, its the socialists pattern

    1. Dolores Wieland says

      We already have fat obese police officers…Have you looked lately? They sure can’t run…

  14. glenn398 says

    There is no way they can do either this type of job or fireman. The average man is at least 3 times stronger than the average woman and that can’t be overcome. How would you like to be a cop and get in a physical fight with another man and here comes your backup a 130 pound woman. Not long ago there was a story on T.V. where the fire woman didn’t have enough strength to pull out the hose to hook up to a far water connection. How many women would be able to put a 200 pound person over their shoulder and carry them out of a burning building. It is past time this B.S. stop and let the qualified have the job but I don’t see than happening.

    1. Scrubjay says

      I have to disagree, there are plenty of women who could outperform many of the men doing these jobs. They just choose not to, otherwise they’d be in these positions and the affirmative action hires would cease.

      You are right on. The jobs must go to the most qualified applicant, not the loudest group.

      If they are after workforce ‘diversity’, then self-reliance and self esteem through accomplishment and failure need to be put back in the classroom. And the art of victim-hood needs to be relegated to the trash heap of diseases, which it is.

      1. kotoc says

        Exactly right!! You nailed it!! The whole problem with this “equalizing” everyone nowadays is starting in the classroom. Remember the story of the 6-year-old girl who wanted to be treated as a boy, and some teachers were fired for not doing so? Case in point.

      2. glenn398 says

        You must see different women then I do because as I point out the average man is at least 3 times stronger then the average woman. Police and firemen have to have the strength for all functions of the job. Now if you want to just pick out parts of the job yes a woman could do some but not all required. Push ups and sit ups yes some women could do that but that is a long ways from what they will have to be able to respond to on the job.

        1. ipsd48 says

          Absolutely nothing holding women back from training to be an EMT, which is one of the HARDEST parts of the firefighting ‘team’ to get into.

          1. glenn398 says

            No but the problem is if they can’t make it the government will get involved to lower the qualifications. I remember a few years back in New York City they couldn’t get a minority to pass the exam, so after lowing the test 3 times finally got one to qualify. That is government in action.

          2. IMSweetOlBob says

            Glenn :
            And then they brought out the vuvuzelas, rang the bells, blew the whistles and shook away with the cowbells.
            Look America ! We have a hero !

          3. glenn398 says

            Back in the 40s and 50s we didn’t have these problems, people accepted their limitations and accepted what they could do and what they qualified for. Today if you don’t qualify all you have to do to qualify is sue. I am waiting for the first time a disabled person sues because the fire department won’t hire them or some other area that takes mobility or strength, am sure it will come. Think I should sue because no big corporation has appointed me to be on one of their board of directors. Know I don’t qualify but as the government has shown that doesn’t make a difference.

          4. Dolores Wieland says

            That is exactly what they do…it is called “dumbing down America”

          5. glenn398 says

            Looking at what I am seeing of the youth of today they have succeeded, job well done by the liberal left but they took it farther and brain washed they youth also.

          6. Dolores Wieland says

            Peers, government, and schools have dumbed down our youth for at least the last 40 years..We’ve allowed it…doing nothing….just like we’ve done nothing about the internal destruction of the USA

          7. glenn398 says

            Only to some extent, I have went to school board meetings and if you say anything they don’t like you get cut off. Hitler couldn’t have done a better job then they do. Of course if you raise a stink they also have a deputy ready to do you in.

        2. Scrubjay says

          I didn’t say average, just plenty. I worked on farms as a young man, most of the girls were as strong as the boys. They had to be.

          1. glenn398 says

            Bull I grew up in Wis. farming community in the 40s and 50s and we didn’t have girls running around that were as strong as boys. Most of the girls in those days did things around the house and the boys did the farm work.

          2. Scrubjay says

            You have to be kidding. Things were a little less sexist in the ’70’s. You really believe I didn’t know these girls?

            Perhaps the cow manure has clouded your thinking.

          3. glenn398 says

            Back in my time the since farmers usually had large families to help down the road with the farm the girls helped raise the kids, cooked the meals, did housework and the hardest thing on farm work was maybe feed the chickens. Most of my relatives were farmers and they sure didn’t have the girls out throwing bales of hay around.

      3. Mark Lahti says

        When I first got out of the Army I applied to the local fire dept. I took the written test first like everybody else. Aced it. Was in the top five out of sixty something applicants. Then we did the physical portion of the test. I did everything that was required within all the time limits. That included carrying a 200 lb dummy down five flights of fire escape stairs. Pulling a loaded hose out to its full length without stopping. And many other hard physical tests. I wound up still in the top five even without the extra points given for being a veteran. The dept hired the six people they were looking for to fill openings. They hired three blacks and three mexicans. I was on the list for three years and in all those three years of hiring they never hired a white male. That was back in 79 thru 81. I’ve never applied for another government job since.

        1. Scrubjay says

          I hear you. I placed in the high ninety’s for a firefighter job, but certain skin tones got an extra twenty points just for showing up.

          Needless to say, I didn’t get a call back.

  15. Gunflint Roseberg says

    If a woman can do what a man can do “physically” …I do not have a problem with it…. But first, ask Firefighters, go ahead ask them..!

  16. Barney Biggs says

    There are women out there who could easily do the physical but of course it is the bunch who can’t who are squawking I could not do it either but still it is fair and I want somebody who can handle themselves without drawing a gun to deal with the punks on the street.

  17. Kirk Douglas says

    Why were they hired in the first place?

    1. Dolores Wieland says

      By law, I guess, they are required to have a certain percentage of women…no different than you must hire a percentage of blacks….qualified or not. Sick isn’t it? Puts the populace in harms way (fire, police, military,, etc are disabled by females)

      1. Kirk Douglas says

        I understand Dolores, but my point is – what ever happened to hiring the best person for the job? Politicians (mostly lawyers) are destroying the country with PC crap.

        1. Dolores Wieland says

          Hiring the best person for the job has long bitten the dust…You are correct….Politicians and lawyers HAVE destroyed our country with PC crap already and WE the people let them do it. America is asleep.

      2. Jarhead says

        Affirmative Action in action…….requires you to hire extra help to do the job that the inept AA’s can’t/wont/or don’t have a clue.

  18. Linda Lee says

    This is what is happening now among feminists and ea few other groups who now demand exceptional privilege.