Former House Majority Leader: Military Should Be Armed

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In the wake of yet another domestic terror attack, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay is among many who say restrictive gun policies left Chattanooga military officials defenseless. “We’re going to have to change the president because this president’s answer to all of this is get rid of the guns,” Delay said on Newsmax’s The Steve Malzberg Show. “Right here in Texas where I am, I’m able to carry a gun, a concealed weapon and in another month I’ll be able to carry one on my hip, open carry. We ought to be arming ourselves, particularly the military.”

President Obama hasn’t yet pushed the gun control button in the wake of Mohammad Abdulazeez’s murderous rampage, but DeLay’s point is well taken nonetheless. He carried out his attack in a supposedly gun-free zone, a restriction that only ensured that his victims would not be armed. It did nothing (obviously) to discourage him from bringing his own gun onto the premises.

This case is made worse because we should have changed things after earlier attacks, DeLay said. “Why haven’t we learned something from the shooting at Fort Hood? I was totally shocked after that shooting in Fort Hood that soldiers that are trained to use firearms are not allowed to carry firearms on an Army base.”

Other Republicans, including presidential contenders Donald Trump and Mike Huckabee, have made similar comments in the wake of the tragedy. That’s all well and good, but it boggles the mind that these sentiments aren’t universal. It is clear as day that gun control regulations do nothing to prevent bad guys from carrying out their deeds. Would Abdulazeez have killed four Marines if they had been armed? No one can answer that question, but it’s a safe bet that the victims would have liked to have the option to defend themselves.

Tragedies like this one give us a chance to not only stand strong against terror but also review our practices to see if there is anything we can change to protect ourselves in the future. Too often, unfortunately, that review gets derailed. We start talking about useless gun control measures. We start talking about “systemic racism.” We start talking about the Confederate flag. With all of these distractions in the air, we never get around to addressing the real problems.

The number one problem now, of course, is determining how we can ferret out Muslims who have been radicalized. The second problem is making sure that Americans aren’t sitting ducks, simply waiting to be killed. But addressing these problems involves crossing the left’s Political Correctness Fence, meaning that nothing will ever be resolved until we have strong conservatives in office. Conservatism is common sense. And that’s something we have far too little of in today’s America.

307 Comments
  1. MAHB001 says

    Why does 0bama will use every gun tragedy to disarm the public?

    It is not for public safety is is because all disarmed populations are merely subjects.

    It is scary how many of Stalins quotes, 0bama seems to be following.

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth.

    Lenin

    1. worn out 123 says

      “The goal of socialism is communism.” . . . . I believe Lenin loved this quote.

      1. MAHB001 says

        I did get that wrong. Thanks for pointing it out. Was it Lenin and not Stalin.

        It seems one communist looks and sounds like the rest these days…

        1. worn out 123 says

          Understandable enough. They read the same literature. Lenin, Stalin, Obama, Jarrett. Moochelle is just a hater and a leach.

      2. Rick Kooi says

        Never mind that fact that everyone that followed Lenin….were not communists or socialist….STALIN was nothing but
        a thug and criminal….
        Mouth Socialism and Communism…..but NEVER worked for it..

        1. worn out 123 says

          They don’t work any better than a republic. More time to watch tv, though. In every form of government it expands vertically and horizontally inversely proportional to individual freedoms until people can no longer stand the strife and overthrow government. The actors in the drama are given titles of patriots and tyrants while the blood of both are blended to produce yet another effort at liberty under the evils inherent of government.

    2. Craig Bathurst says

      Could it be that he himself is a Marxist?

      1. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

        The Zero is more of a Maoist or Stalinist than a true Marxist.

        I base my analysis upon my years of college, studying to earn my Bachelors Degree in Political Science.

        Buy More Λmmo. Doing so is *still* the only viable treatment for ODDD (Obamunist Douchebag Distrust Disorder). Doing so is also the only remaining path to Liberty. Support your local Militia and/or your local Oath Keepers. This won’t end pretty, Λmerica.

      2. MAHB001 says

        I know he is an Alinsky Radical.
        Alinsky dreamed of the destruction of Capitalism at any cost and although was not a Marxist, Alinsky was not above teaming up with them, as they had similar goals.

        The problem as I see it is that the Alinsky Radicals will not have pieces to pick up for themselves. A true dictator from the outside will swoop in and take over, once the America People can not protect themselves. (Putin, China, North Korea, Iran)
        The Alinsky Radicals will be the useful idiots for the next tyrant.

    3. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

      Q. “Why does 0bama will use every gun tragedy to disarm the public?”
      A. Because he intends to disarm all of our nation’s Patriots, and then kill us all.

      That seems pretty darn obvious to me and to anyone else with the good sense that God gave a waterbug.

      Buy More Λmmo. Doing so is *still* the only viable treatment for ODDD (Obamunist Douchebag Distrust Disorder). Doing so is also the only remaining path to Liberty. Support your local Militia and/or your local Oath Keepers. This won’t end pretty, Λmerica.

      1. BoundlessExistence says

        You are completely insane and need to be locked up in a nuthouse for the rest of your life!

        1. Mark Lahti says

          Why?

        2. worn out 123 says

          Yeah. Him and Thomas Jefferson. Willing to die for liberty. Crazy, huh?

        3. RMCSRET says

          Then please give us your response as to why Obama and Bloomberg and there
          like want to take guns away from Law abiding citizens.

          1. worn out 123 says

            Because out of over 300 million people one thousand or so misuse them to kill or maim every year. Good reason to allow 300 million to be forced to live under tyranny. NOT.

          2. john says

            he cant hes a brainless existence shouldnt be on this site

          3. BoundlessExistence says

            Do you own this site? You must have flunked your H.S. English class. You were born stupid and have gone downhill ever since.

          4. john says

            I said u shouldnt be because of ur dumb smartass remarks not that I own this site .and u should wake up ur hero in white house is tryin to destroy ur country at least people on this site aren’t afraid to speak up and care for this country and. will die for her..fact and least I graduated in 11th grade not to bad with high honors …

        4. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

          Spoken like a typical elitist, in love with statism. Like all Libtards, you suffer from a form of mental illness in which you can neither acknowledge your own mistakes, nor recognize that you worship the state in the place of God.

          There can be no doubt that The Zero and his drooling, mouth-breathing, douchebag Obamunist “true believers” will inevitably inflict their murderous Purge against the Citizens of this nation. That is guaranteed to happen, and the current state of Patriots’ deep, visceral animosity against The Zero nationwide is proof of that inevitable outcome. That outcome is what Libtards voted for, whether or not unknowingly, when they voted for “hope and change” delivered by someone who is so transparently a Stalinist.

          If you doubt that such a Purge conducted by the Obamunists has now become inevitable, ask yourself this: if you had the power to put to death everyone who loves the Confederate Battle Flag, would you not do so? Of course you would. The fact that the flag has never, ever represented “racism” or “hate” or any of that Libtard Bovine Scatology propaganda does not cross what passes for your mind. You just swallow the propaganda and believe what the herd tells you to believe. That is the nature of a creature of the Collective.

          The Confederate Battle Flag is just an illustration of my point, which is that Libtards would all too eagerly extend such a Death List well beyond just those of us who love the Rebel flag. That Libtard Death List has already grown to include all of us who recognize The Zero to be nothing less than a statist assho|e. Don’t bother denying it, we both know that you and your contemptible ilk want to see all of us dead for the “crime” of not bowing down to lick the hand of The Zero.

          If you answered the above question honestly, then the next question to ask yourself is, do you suppose that those of us who love the Confederate Battle Flag already KNOW that you and your contemptible ilk would kill us all if you had the power to do so? Well, of course we know that.

          The Zero is the embodiment of everything that is so very, very wrong with LIberalism. At its core, it is nothing short of Totalitarianism . And Totalitarians cannot tolerate having anyone in their midst who does not think like the rest of the herd. That is a part of the mental illness that is Liberalism.

          Followed to it’s logical conclusion, that deep division in America between Patriots and LIbtards *cannot* now be resolved by any means other than War, Bloodshed, and Death. We know that you Libtards believe that you have to kill us all, because if you don’t, well, you know what we will eventually have to do, don’t you? That is called a Purge, and it has now become inevitable. *That* is what you voted for.

          Once that Obamunist Purge finally begins. I will have work to do, as will all Patriots who are part of a Militia. All Militia groups have a plan in place that will be launched only after The Zero launches his murderous Purge against against those of us who consider ourselves to be Patriots. Once The Zero comes after us, we will be coming after all of the Libtard asswipes in our local communities.

          Identifying those LIbtard statist douchebags is not hard, simply because
          they cannot keep from flapping their big, fat, cock holsters . So we already know who you douchebags are.

          The Militia keeps lists of those Libtard asswipes because we know that they
          will be all too eager to bend over and become the moles, spies, snitches, whores, and collaborators for the Obamunists once The Zero launches his inevitable Purge. We keep those lists because, while we intend to fight the Obamunists, we do not intend to leave any enemies alive at our backs before we start.

          Once The Zero starts his Purge against all of us, the Militia will begin our own Purge against all of the Libtard douchebags who formed the drooling, mouth-breathing, 52 percent of the American electorate that put him into power.

          Once the Obamunists come for all of us, the Patriots will be coming for all of *you*.

          So, since that Purge conducted against us by your Rainbow Flag Overlords has now become inevitable, so has *your* fate. The Militia in your local community has already identified you. Your name and home address are on file. Your trial has already been conducted, you have already been found guilty, and sentence will be carried out on the same day that The Zero kicks off his “Fundamental Transformation” of America in the LIbtard dream of a neo-Socialist oligarchy.

          You might as well go ahead and shoot yourself in the head right now. You won’t be around to celebrate for very long after the Zero kicks off the coming festivities.

          Have a Happy “Fundamental Transformation Day”, Douchebag.

          1. BoundlessExistence says

            STFU!

          2. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            Do us all a favor, sit back down on your toilet, have a nice long cry, change your tampon, and shut your fracking cock holster, Shirley.

          3. john says

            indeed indeed,,,shirley thats funny and wel spoken…

          4. BoundlessExistence says

            Is that all you got, this sounds like an insult a 13 y/o a-hole would make. but it doesn’t bother me because it was made by someone who’s IQ is obviously lower then that of a brain damaged cockroach.

          5. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            I was going by the intellectual level of your own comments, and I was only speaking down to your level as a courtesy. If you cannot appreciate my kind gesture, go frack yourself.

            I will happily compare IQ scores with you anytime, Buttercup. We can also have a Spelling Bee to determine which of us has a better grasp of the English language.

            Just so you know, I earned a Bachelors Degree in Political Science and I received a graduate-level education from the US Army Infantry School on how to correctly identify Communist Douchebags. So….. Bring It.

            FYI, your Village called, they want you back as their Idiot. Hillary is just not working out for them.

          6. BoundlessExistence says

            You are a legend in your own mind.

          7. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

            And Posterity will forget that you were one of our countrymen.

            “If ye love wealth better than Liberty, the tranquility of servitude
            better than the animating contest of Freedom, go home from us in Peace.
            We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which
            feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may Posterity forget
            that ye were our countrymen.”

            Samuel Adams

          8. William Benton says

            I was think that would be the right thing for you to do. You fucking wacko

        5. Michael Dennewitz says

          Pissing you off is he. Guess that shows what damned hole you crawled out of.. TRAITOR!

          1. john says

            no shit ,,,traitors to the country ..uneducated what it is…

          2. BoundlessExistence says

            Actually, I pity imbeciles like him, and you.

        6. Rick Kooi says

          I agree !

      2. MAHB001 says

        I fear you are right. 0bama wants to go to war with American Patriots, not Iran.

        The 0bama administration refuses to be clear as to who the
        Islamic Terrorist are and prefers to use the term “Radical Extremists.”

        BUT: The 0bama administration was perfectly clear when they
        called members of the “Tea Party” and “Christian Conservatives”, radicals, and
        extremists, they have also called Republican members in Congress Terrorists.

        Given 0bama’s propensity for lying, his propensity for
        obfuscating the truth, and the Medias hypocritical actions towards all three
        groups. , there is nothing they can say to convince me that when 0bama says
        radical extremists, he is not talking about “The Tea Party,” “Christian
        Conservatives,” and “Republicans.”

        How can anybody be sure that 0bama does not want to go to
        war with honest God fearing Christians, the Tea Party, and Republican when he
        uses terms as clear as radical extremists?

        If you read 0bama’s declaration of war that he sent to Congress, it is obvious who the double talking liar was attempting to go to war with.

      3. john says

        couldnt said it better..this person they have in white house needs removed immediately he is not a u.s citizen there shouldnt be even a discussion he only wants to hurt the people and our country and destroy our constitution along with our freedom he out to get the white man period .how much more do we have to put up with..gop should do the right thing and get this guy out now. militias and citizens need to get ready to take out the scum in our beloved country..all illegals must go back to there own country and police our borders build walls what ever it takes

        1. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

          The Zero is the embodiment of everything that is so very, very wrong
          with LIberalism. At its core, LIberalism is nothing short of Totalitarianism .
          And Totalitarians cannot abide having anyone in their midst who does
          not think like the rest of the herd. Those of us who refuse to go along with the herd’s “groupthink” have to be killed.

          Buy More Λmmo. Doing so is *still* the only viable treatment for ODDD (Obamunist Douchebag Distrust Disorder). Doing so is also the only remaining path to Liberty. Support your local Militia and/or your local Oath Keepers. This won’t end pretty, Λmerica.

    4. Spark1845 says

      He will NOT disarm US. PERIOD. He will have US all over anyone who tries to DISARM us. PERIOD> HANG Barry Soetoro Hussein.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        If you follow MAHB001 you will see that that is his stance as well. That would include millions more of us out here as well.

    5. Shauna says

      Did you hear the latest? By executive order, he is going to with hold SS payments from people who are legal gun owners. They will have to turn in the guns, in order to get the payments.

      1. MAHB001 says

        I had not heard that, and pray it is not true. That would be a sign of a very desperate wanna be dictator that has not accomplished the task of disarming the public.

        1. Shauna says

          So sorry, it’s true…..It had to do with all the data base gathering. They know EVERYTHING about us now. Orwell could only begin to dream of this type of system…..Obama wanted gun control and this is his approach to it. He has gathered a data base of race for his ghetto relocation project. He doesn’t/hasn’t cared about the law. Only agenda. He is also by passing Congress for his Iran deal……. civil disobedience is our only answer now…Repubs are doing NOTHING to stop it……Marxism is his goal, along with racial hatred. He needs to be stopped.

    6. gini62 says

      I agree. That is because Obama’s mother was an atheist and a Marxist. He was raised by his Marxist grandparents and a black person who belonged to the American Communist Party. He is a follower of Sal Alinsky as is Hilary. They are taught how to overthrow a government. They are taught to form a new goverment, a communist one. But first you must get rid of the old government. All the tactics he is using are from the Sal Alinsky book they both are devoted to. If you wish to see and hear Alinsky watch the movie “America” by Sousa. It is an eye opener for sure. You will learn about all the lies we have been taught our whole lives.

      1. MAHB001 says

        America by Dinesh D’Souza is a fabulous book/movie.

        The Alinsky Radicals also adopted every communist agenda item listed in the book.
        “The Naked Communist.” by Cleon Skousen.

        They added the coward and piven garbage and Alinsky methods put the entire thing on steroids.

        1. gini62 says

          Are you saying “The Naked Communist” by Cleon Skousen is a bad book?
          Because I can’t believe he would ever write a book touting Communism as a good thing.

          1. MAHB001 says

            The Naked Communist was written by Cleon Skousen a Russian defector in 1958. He tried to warn the United States of the methods and tools that the communists of old were using to break down Americas resolve, and instill small chunks of socialism in the United States. You can google the book it is available online in digital form.

            0bama and the Alinsky Radicals have adopted the entire agenda list.
            Let see if you recognize a few of them.

            13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
            15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
            16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
            17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
            20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
            21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
            24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
            25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
            26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
            27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
            28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
            29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
            30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

            0bama didn’t create the list, he is just following the list.

    7. Rick Kooi says

      OK, I am lost … a list of Dictator quotes…..STALIN was NOT a Communist or a Socialist….but a criminal and thug….

      “Why does 0bama will use every gun tragedy to disarm the public?
      It is not for public safety is is because all disarmed populations are merely subjects.”
      (((( So the 1st President who partially privatized a small part of the Government is NOW a SOCIALIST ))))

      “It is scary how many of the communists quotes, 0bama and the socialists in the media seem to be following.”
      WOW!
      YOU ARE GENUINELY WACKED.
      I am a Goldwater Conservative and have been to socialist countries…..and your “scary” comment is just nuts….
      How come you are not calling Obama the N word….cause it is NOT acceptable….?
      How come you are not calling Obama a Muslim??……cause you heard him sing ‘AMAZING GRACE’ from memory…….from the days he used to teach Sunday School….
      WHY does my party constantly have to demonize the adversary in order to justify voting for a Donald Trump…or a TED CRUZ……
      Just advocate for them….THEY are hardly angelic….and Obama is hardly satanic.
      Frankly they all suck…..I constantly find myself choosing which one sucks the least!
      Cruz proved himself a liar on NATIONAL TV, the dope…..dope with an IVY league degree….go figure.

  2. Croco Dile says

    “….In the wake of yet another domestic terror attack….” which may be fabricated.

    Fear : The Foundation of Every Government’s Power

    Over the ages, governments refined their appeals to popular fears, fostering an ideology that emphasizes the people’s vulnerability to a variety of internal and external dangers from which the governors – of all people! – are said to be their protectors. Government, it is claimed, protects the populace from external attackers and from internal disorder, both of which are portrayed as ever-present threats.
    As successive doses of fear-mongering are added to the government’s “production” process, the incremental public clamor for governmental protection declines. The first time the government cries wolf, the public is frightened; the second time, less so; the third time, still less so. If the government plays the fear card too much, it overloads the public’s sensibilities, and eventually people discount almost entirely the government’s attempts to frighten them further. Unless the foretold threat eventuates, the people come to doubt its substance. The government must make up for the depreciation by investing in the maintenance, modernization, and replacement of its stock of FEAR CAPITAL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLNNYSHfmuU

    1. Paula says

      Gads I can’t stand that smug mug!

  3. SoundMind says

    You’d think those living in cities near military installations would feel Safer than average citizens. Instead, because of this stupid disarming of the military, those areas are now targeted by Muslim terrorists. Obama is not only disarming our brave military members, but has set his sights on disarming ordinary Americans as well. Obama himself is appearing as a Muslim terrorist.

    1. Croco Dile says

      Right, continue calling this Puppet names……
      This will help a lot !

      1. RobertNorwood says

        What’s wrong with calling Obama names – it’s the only honor he’s earned.

        1. Al says

          LOL Good one Robert.

        2. Combatvet52 says

          How do name an EVIL person, no name it’s just a disease in our society and for a second time to boot.

        3. Paula says

          Lefties had NO qualms calling Bush names!

          1. RobertNorwood says

            Oh but as we all know the liberal left is always so, soooo right about everything. Pity them as they grope around for others to revile and call names because even they know referring to George Bush whatever mistakes he made won’t get it done.

        4. Croco Dile says

          First, it’s a waste of time.
          Second, it gives the impression other puppets are somewhat preferable. They are not.

          1. RobertNorwood says

            I think we can work with the distinctions. If others want to make false impressions that’s their call. I am perfectly comfortable with it and any way – it makes me feel good!

      2. EXNFLFAN says

        It doesn’t hurt, he has no real feelings for Americans or the Law Of The Land, U.S. Constitution!

        1. Patriot53 says

          It is impossible to hurt the feelings of a narcissist, such as the One.

  4. James Andrews says

    Of course they should be armed!

  5. RMCSRET says

    Now arming the military while in the United States would not do. There would be to many DEAD
    TERRORIST to contend with if we did that. Right Joint Staff?

    1. Paula says

      Oh no! Wouldn’t want to hurt their feelings now would we? Who would our paid “representatives” cater to? Certainly not us…we are a nonentity to them. We vote them in, we give them tons of money and they turn their collective backs on us. Now we want to arm our military against the peaceful muslims right here in the USA! Well, RMSCRET, I believe that WILL HAPPEN when hell freezes over or we get a strong (very tough) Conservative president.

      1. Al says

        Right on Paula.

      2. RMCSRET says

        So VERY, VERY TRUE. This problem though even though it ends at OBAMAs desk is
        also on the Heads of the JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF for the Military. In fact I was just
        reading an article this morning which quoted GENERAL WESLEY CLARK who used to
        run NATO that if you didn’t like what was happening in the United States today with
        folks exercising there right to dissent that they should be put into INTERNMENT
        camps like the NAZIs did during World War II. This is the thinking of Liberal Generals
        and Admirals in our Military today.

        1. Paula says

          I looked up that article… and who would decide which “radical” citizen would be interned? Let me guess… oh that would be people like me & you!

          I rarely read anything by a liberal but I did..it was (off this subject) about immigration. The MSM spins everything this administration does. For instance, they claim it is NOT correct that anyone can sneak into the US..it’s impossible!

          IF we get out of this mess alive… not only should o & his money men be brought up on charges of treason…but the MSM, our “representatives,” SCOTUS, the top military personnel & the radical lefties that have been complicit in the destruction of America. (wishful thinking on my part)

          That’s a lot of folks, more than I ever imagined…. my head spins when I think of how quickly the alphabet agencies, congressmen/women & the media jumped on the obama train wreck.

          And it anit over yet!

          1. jim says

            It will end in and armed revolution

          2. Sarah Meador says

            Not unless it starts in Texas. The rest of us have been divided by every possible factor. A revolution requires three things: unity, organization, and leadership. As it is now, we have none of the above. Someone will have to stand up and tie hall back together.

          3. Paula says

            You’re so right! We are NOT organized. Our “representatives” aren’t any good. We need to unite like the lefties have done. They have a “cause” to destroy the “evil empire” and restore it with the commie version of Utopia! We have allowed them to disrespect us… and it’s growing stronger. We have allowed them to lie to us. We’ve allowed them to trample on our rights and give those rights to non-citizens and terrorists! We need a firebrand to rally our numbers… we need someone who isn’t afraid of being called racist. Or traitor. Or a loon. Someone who is NOT afraid of a fight! There are strength in numbers …we have the numbers but not the strength and we are getting our butts kicked.

          4. Sarah Meador says

            One of the candidates, perhaps? The GOP field is so varied, they can’t all be self-serving cowards!

          5. Paula says

            Mmmm… I can think of one that would be a kick butt take NO names kinda guy, there is 4 of them I like.

            All career politicians are self-serving weenies.

          6. Sarah Meador says

            IMO Trump is a showman, giving ppl what they want in the moment and turning around when the wind changes. His history is too rocky to make his current claims believable. But Cruz, I think, would make a great revolutionary leader. I am supporting Dr. Ben Carson for President because he’s NOT a career politician, if we make it to Nov. 2016 without exploding into civil war. And maybe Carson could lead a revolution, too – but he’s focused right now on being the statesman healer that America needs instead of focusing on conflicts. I don’t think a person could do both.

          7. Mark Lahti says

            Exactly what I have been saying for years now. There are millions of us out here that are ready, able, armed, ammo’d, and itching for the fight to start. But until some form of leadership steps up to the plate we will all just sit here and twiddle our thumbs and toes.

          8. Paula says

            I know and it scares me.. but you gotta stand up & fight back or they’ll lead us to camps without a struggle. Just like the nazis did to the jews & whoever didn’t go along with the “plan.”

          9. Old goat says

            Do not agree Jim! Too many Americans are wimps and cowards. They will do nothing!

          10. Paula says

            Yes… most of us have never had to face anything like this in our life time. Not only is it out in the open (for 7 years now)…most people don’t know what to do.

            By your nickname I’m going to assume we are about the same age…. we were taught to respect our president, our government, police, military and Country! We’ve lost it all except our Country, which has fallen into the enemies hands. I think most of us are angry & confused! Confused because we can’t fathom our government turning on us! Look what happened to 6 million Jews & 5 million non Jews when their government turned on them!

            We really need a strong leadership to unite us and fight back…before it’s to damn late.

          11. Michael Dennewitz says

            And my closetS are packed and ready!!

          12. Morton212 says

            You had better start doing push-ups then Mikey. I understand that even urination is a laborious process for you -location of the outlet requires talcum powder all over the lower region – and then looking for the wet spot.

          13. Mark Lahti says

            He says as he sits there naked in his recliner with his laptop in his lap, a bag of cheetos in his left hand, and watching porn while he coats his member with cheeto dust.

          14. Morton212 says

            Really ? Then it is even more nasty than I made it sound.

          15. Mark Lahti says

            Do you wipe the cheeto grease off of your pudgy fingers before you type on your laptop Mortie the troll?

          16. Morton212 says

            Oh Lord. I do not have a weenie. It was shot away on active duty. All that is left now is a modern catheter.

        2. jim says

          RMC W Clark is an absolute fraud like the Pres, or what ever you want to call it

          1. RMCSRET says

            Hey Jim who is RMC W Clark?

        3. Patriot53 says

          The One must have used General Wesley Clark to replace a general removed because he disagreed with the political/muslim beliefs of this regime.

        4. Morton212 says

          There are no ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’ generals. There are simply competent generals whose rationale is very careful study. The military has no use for politically motivated leadership. You are perhaps thinking of the SS, which was a political unit allocated to every military command in the days of the Third Reich.

          1. worn out 123 says

            If this is the case why were so many fired by Obama? Just another case of a presidential political overreach to assert “social change”. No doubt highly recommended by the power behind the throne, communist V. Jarrett who wields more power than the Chief of Staff, btw.

          2. Morton212 says

            I have dealt with that argument – which is false – further up in a post.

          3. worn out 123 says

            Thankx. I’ll try to find it.

      3. Old goat says

        Anyone with an ounce of sense knows our so-called representatives do NOT truly represent us. For the most part, if not all, they represent themselves. They are disgusting human beings!

        1. Paula says

          You bet… the career politicians have built dynasties and will not give that up without a fight! All they want is money & power.

      4. Michael Dennewitz says

        THE ONLY GOOD MOOSELUM IS A DEAD MOOSELUM !!

  6. AlanWH says

    An Armed Military Absolutely, better still, a Well Armed CITIZENRY. At least a 1000 Rounds for every, Lying “Fill in the Blank.”

  7. conservgirl says

    Not everyone has Secret Service people following the around nor do they have the money for bodyguards so how does Obama think we should protect ourselves from illegal alien criminals or terrorists bent on killing Americans. Another American was killed by an illegal alien who was supposed to be deported after his jail sentence and was let loose but not deported. His policies make all of us vulnerable and what’s worse he seems to be siding with our enemies and disarming those who protect us.

    1. Al says

      Bill Clinton: “We cannot have people walking around with guns.” Gee Bill, are you in charge again? You Bill have armed security around you at all times. We cannot protect ourselves? Who the hell are YOU anyway? You and your part-time wife are all done. Go home.

      1. Paula says

        The clintons are part of that White Privilege bunch that we keep hearing about!

        1. Al says

          Yeh. You’re right Paula.

  8. elmcqueen3 says

    We have witnessed members of the Israelie military carry their guns everywhere they go…at the mall, restaurants, synagogues, etc…this is a deterrent to those terrorist who choose to kill a lot of people without facing someone who may be holding a firearm and would shoot back…Therefore…there are no “Gun Free Zone” signs in Israel…there is no need for them in this country either…they do not make us safer…such signs put all of us in harms way…these signs are the advent of the “politically correct” liberal Democrat do gooder crowd who believe nothing bad will happen if such signs are posted to be read by someone with the evil intent of killing as many people as possible without any interference by armed resistance..It’s time to remove these signs and post new signs that read…”Premises Armed”.

    1. Paula says

      We should demand that the White House is a gun free zone, Capitol Hill, The Supreme Court building. Let them sit there feeling exposed & vulnerable … like they expect us too.

      1. Old goat says

        But they have guards paid for by tax payers. It is the extreme deceit of liberals. Rosie O’Donnell, etal, have armed guards but want us to have no protection. They can kiss my big toe.

        1. Rick Kooi says

          Yes and the Rich have professional services for security….thanks to all the tax cuts WE have given them..
          ((((( YOU DO KNOW THAT THE WEALTHY IN USA have cut their taxes over 40%)))))))) *****you didn’t get those cuts…did you???…..
          …All the WHILE they bitch about taxes and demand TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS VOTE against ALL taxes and cost of living increase and subsidies to local police..
          ..SO
          YOU DON’T GET THE HELP and sense of SECURITY YOU DESIRE!!

          1. worn out 123 says

            Once upon a time is the way you should begin your rants. You actually believe politicians with a d by their names are no part of this? Ha,ha,ha. Sorry, not so.

      2. elmcqueen3 says

        Good point Paula…thanks…lets remove all the guns and security to include the Secret Service personell and replace them with “Gun Free Zone” signs surronding all these government buildings…These gun free zone signs would definately stop any intruder from entering these grounds with evil intent on their minds would it not?…Liberal Democrats would be so “politically correctly” happy..whereas everyone entering these buildings to include the President who resides there could feel so much safer and comfortable…Why?…Because the signs say so.

        1. Rick Kooi says

          and the reason you don’t have enough police is because all those Republicans you put into office from the TEA PARTY….vote down ALL the pay raises for the cops and state police….and then they give TAX cuts to the rich….so they can hire their Professional security people…..that you can only dream about
          BLAME those dam LIBERALS all you want…..BUT
          REAGAN was the 1st purposeful deficit spender in the modern age.
          He and David Stockman had great theories.
          …didn’t work then
          ….he learned at the feet of LBJ nearly 2 generations before….
          ..(.LBJ went to war and big social program and didn’t pay for either).
          Clinton under Pressure from Gingrich….left office with a booming economy
          AND
          a balanced budget…… (ALL the WHILE you dear folks were trying to impeach him for not keeping his zipper up…..HALF OF TODAYS congress would be out of office if you re-impose that standard.
          It took BUSH 2….1 year to destroy all of that prosperity.
          BIG tax cut….94% of it went to the super wealthy and DID NOT STIMULATE a DAM BIT of ECONOMIC ACTIVITY in this country….
          and within 2 years,
          2 wars….neither of them paid for..
          KEN ADELMAN….said on national TV….that “this will be the 2nd Paid in Full War….((referencing Bush 1 Iraq war which was largely paid for by the ARAB Oil))
          Only thing is…..W forgot to get the OIL….and sell it to pay for the Wars.
          OOOOPS!!!!!
          VOTE FOR TRUMP, VOTE REPUBLICAN..VOTE FOR ANOTHER WAR or TWO

          1. elmcqueen3 says

            Pray tell what be the solution to all this damaging calamity…vote for more liberal Democrats?

          2. Rick Kooi says

            Nay, No liberals need apply !

            Tea Party potentates, either!

            Find Me a nice middle of the road….technocrat…..
            It will take one
            to expeditiously move the world toward
            a more efficient use of these:

            http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/04/q3/0812-carbon/

            Technology already exists
            to stabilize global warming
            Analysis shows how to control carbon emissions for 50 years

            PRINCETON, N.J.
            — Existing technologies could stop the escalation of global warming for 50 years and work on implementing them can begin immediately, according to an analysis by Princeton University scientists.

            The scientists identified 15 technologies
            — from wind, solar and nuclear energy to conservation techniques
            — that are ripe for large-scale use and showed that each could solve a significant portion of the problem.
            **** Their analysis, published in the Aug. 13 issue of Science, indicates that many combinations of these 15 technologies could prevent global emissions of greenhouse gasses from rising for the next five decades.

            The finding counters the common argument
            that a major new technology needs to be developed before greenhouse gasses can be controlled, said professors Stephen Pacala and Robert Socolow, who conducted the study.

            “It certainly explodes the idea that we need to do research for a long time before getting started,” said Pacala, a professor of ecology and evolutionary biology and co-director with Socolow of Princeton’s Carbon Mitigation Initiative.

            “If we decide to act, we will need to reduce carbon emissions across the whole global economy,” said Socolow, a professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering.
            … “Fortunately, we have the tools to do this, especially if we think in terms of 50-year campaigns, not instant solutions.”

            Although the current study did not examine the costs of scaling up each of the 15 possible technologies, the authors point out that implementing the measures would likely generate economic benefits, including creating new industries, reducing the U.S. dependence on foreign oil and lessening the need for other pollution-control expenses associated with burning coal and other fossil fuels.

            Carbon the culprit

            The study focuses on the main contributor to greenhouse warming, carbon dioxide, which comes from burning carbon-based fossil fuels such as oil, natural gas and coal.
            Throughout Earth’s history, changes in carbon dioxide levels have been linked to changes in climate. Current global emissions of carbon dioxide contain 7 billion tons of carbon per year.
            That amount is projected to double to 14 billion tons per year over the next 50 years as the world population increases and people consume more energy.
            …To keep emissions stable, technologies and conservation efforts would have to prevent 7 billion tons worth of emissions per year by 2054.

            Pacala and Socolow show how each of the
            ******15 options they identified could prevent 1 billion tons a year worth of carbon emissions by 2054. To illustrate their idea, the researchers created a graph that divides the problem into seven 1 billion-ton-per-year “wedges.” (See figures.) In their paper and 51 pages of supplementary online material, they identify opportunities and difficulties associated with each option and compare alternative combinations of seven “wedges.”

            Several of the options, for example, involve capturing carbon dioxide at power plants or other locations and storing it deep underground (carbon dioxide gas already is commonly injected into the Earth as part of some oil drilling operations). Others involve improving energy conservation faster than the modest improvements that are continually occurring. The researchers identify various renewable energy sources, including solar and wind, that could be scaled up faster than current projections. Changes in forestry and farming techniques also could lead to substantial reductions in carbon emissions.

            Pacala and Socolow caution that scientists must continue researching alternative sources of energy because new measures will be required after 50 years. By that time, some of the 15 technologies will have reached their full potential and may not be able to keep up with increasing demand.

            Case for action

            Pacala and Socolow said that limiting carbon emissions to present-day levels for 50 years would put the world on a track to stabilize the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at about 500 parts per million. That would be roughly a doubling of the carbon dioxide content compared to the pre-industrial level of 280 parts per million. If emissions are left unchecked, it would be difficult to stabilize below a tripling. The current concentration is about 375 parts per million.

            The authors acknowledged that their analysis does not address the question of why it is necessary to act in the first place. “Ideally, scientists and economists would produce a rigorous analysis showing that the benefits of controlling greenhouse gases outweigh the risks of not doing so,” said Pacala. “But the rigorous analysis is not going to be possible until the warming is upon us — or not, as the case may be,” Pacala continued. “The alternative to acting now is to watch the experiment happen and then find out how accurate we were.”

            A strong case for action comes from three lines of evidence, said Pacala. First, investigations of the Earth’s climate over the last million years show that various factors, such as changing carbon dioxide levels, tend to reinforce each other and cause the temperature “to switch all at once” as it has during previous ice ages, Pacala said. “We understand those feedback mechanisms somewhat, but not completely, and that is scary.”

            A second reason for concern comes from current observations of change, including warming temperatures and the melting of ancient ice in glaciers, said Pacala.

            Lastly, the computer models that explain past climate behavior and predict future changes indicate that increasing the level of carbon dioxide will cause long-term warming. “The models are not perfect but they are based on sound principles,” Pacala said.

            “You put it all together and you say, ‘This looks dangerous.’ And then when you find that we already have the technology to deal with it, we say, ‘Why not?'” Pacala said.

            “We’ll have to spend real money,” Socolow said, “but addressing the global carbon problem now will provide a tremendous stimulus to the economy and will promote the development of needed international institutions, while averting the most serious environmental consequences.”

            Pacala and Socolow’s research is part of the Carbon Mitigation Initiative, a project in the Princeton Environmental Institute funded by $20 million in grants from BP and Ford Motor Co. The researchers are continuing their work with more detailed analysis of the challenges and opportunities associated with the technologies they identified and with further studies of the magnitude and urgency of the carbon and climate problem.

          3. elmcqueen3 says

            Wrong…the cycle of global warming has ended…during the next 30 years we will see a cooling down of the earth and its oceans…this being brought about by the recent reduction of sun spots as recorded by scientists…the left wing nuts don’t want to admit it…it diminishes their power and their financial colaboration with the “green” industry…If you prefer cold weather over warm weather this will be an ideal time for those of you who love to ski…year round.

          4. William Benton says

            I knew from the start that you were a special kind of stupid. and you just confirmed it

          5. Rick Kooi says

            Thanks Bill, I really appreciate those thought filled comments.

            Did you have anything left unsaid….

            or

            are

            you proof:

            United States[edit]

            During the 1980s, more than 75 right-wing extremists were prosecuted in the United States for acts of terrorism, although they carried out only six attacks during the decade.[54] In 1983, Gordon Kahl, a Posse Comitatus activist, killed two federal marshals and was later killed by police. Also that year, the white nationalist revolutionary group The Order (also known as the Brüder Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood) robbed several banks and armored cars, as well as a sex shop;[55] bombed a theater and a synagogue; and murdered radio talk show host Alan Berg.[56][57]

            The April 19, 1995 attack on the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma, by the right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, which killed 168 people.[58] McVeigh stated it was retaliation for the government’s actions in Ruby Ridge and Waco.[59] McVeigh attended Michigan militia group gun shows.[60][61]

            Eric Rudolph executed a series of terrorist attacks between 1996 and 1998. He carried out 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing — which claimed two lives and injured 111 — with the aim of to cancelling the games, claiming they promoted global socialism.[62] Rudolph confessed to bombing an abortion clinic in Sandy Springs, an Atlanta suburb, on January 16, 1997; the Otherside Lounge, an Atlanta lesbian bar, on February 21, 1997, injuring five; and an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama on January 29, 1998, killing Birmingham police officer and part-time clinic security guard Robert Sanderson, and critically injuring nurse Emily Lyons.

            According to data compiled by the New America Foundation, since the 2001 September 11 attacks, right-wing extremists have committed at least eight lethal terrorist attacks in the United States, resulting in the deaths of nine people.

          6. Getter2 says

            McVeigh and NIchols had the right idea, but should have picked an IRS building instead.

          7. Patriot954 says

            Keep people confused with irrational, twisted logic. Good communist tactic.

          8. peteserb says

            Where did this moron escape from?

          9. William Benton says

            Rick Kool you are a special kind of stupid

          10. Rick Kooi says

            Sorry, It is HISTORY……READ Rumsfeld’s book

          11. whoselineisitanyway says

            Stupid is as stupid does. GO DRINK SOME MORE OF THAT KOOL-AID

          12. Rick Kooi says

            What a marvelously intellectual display of magic……..your IQ vanished before my very eyes.

          13. Weymouth Renee says

            You’re no scientific scholar and, therefore, you believe in the establishment scientific research? Remove the remedial technocratic wannabe, PLEASE!

          14. Rick Kooi says

            Right backatcha…for all the same reasons.
            PLEASE!!

          15. Patriot954 says

            You have a strange, but familiar twist in your logic. You have succeeded in representing the twisted logic of Linen. Offer confused explanations.

      3. worn out 123 says

        ABSOLUTELY!

        1. Rick Kooi says

          Yes and the Rich have professional services for security.
          …thanks to all the tax cuts
          ******** WE have given them..

          ((((( YOU DO KNOW THAT THE WEALTHY IN USA have cut their taxes over 40%))))))))
          *****you didn’t get those cuts.
          ………did you???…..

          …All the WHILE they bitch about taxes and demand TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS VOTE against ALL taxes and cost of living increase and subsidies to local police..

          ..SO

          YOU DON’T GET THE HELP and sense of SECURITY YOU DESIRE!!
          But you just keep pointing at liberals and keep pointing at liberals….
          THAT is an OLD Magicians trick…
          Make you look in one direction….
          While they do their dirt in another!!!

          1. worn out 123 says

            It’s an old political trick. BOTH parties use this act of hypocracy ad infinitum.
            “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.” “There’s not a smidgon of corruption in the IRS.” “No one’s trying to take away your guns.” “If you like your insurance policy, you can keep your insurance policy.” Any of this sound familiar at all?
            Try this: Why have many large corporations moved their headquarters to other nations? Answer: taxes are too high for businesses. Taxes are much lower in other nations making America noncompetitive. Higher taxes for corporation will continue to drive AWAY business from America. This is not R or D. This is just dumb. Here’s a reliable business truth for you. *Capital flows to where it receives favorable treatment.* Does this make sense to you? If so, then why not this government? Way over half the new jobs created this last year went to foreign born workers in America. They work cheaper. The number of foreign born, as a percentage of the general population, comitting crime is way beyond reasonable, yet government doesn’t care.
            Having responded to your rant allow me to ask, what does this have to do with my one word comment on unConstitutional gun restrictions and free killing zones? Btw, if things like this continue too much longer EVERYONE will be carrying, legally or illegally.

          2. Old goat says

            I agree Worn Out 123. Unlike many I do not hate the rich. I country would be in hell of shape without the rich. Though I will say many of them do not give a damn about their workers. That is just like all these assholes who hate the cops. What if we did not have any cops? Would not be a pretty picture.

          3. worn out 123 says

            Police are essential to any modern society to maintain good order by TAKING CHARGE of potentially disruptive and/or violent situations. All should remember that we as a society employ police officers to take charge by promoting calming and/or arresting. Courtrooms are the places society sets aside to settle disputes, not the streets.
            As a kid I played ‘cops and robbers’. I was always a cop.

          4. Getter2 says

            Are you on some kind of super crack? WTF? large corporations have moved their headquarters out of this country because it’s cheaper to produce their products in NON union countries and countries where child labor is acceptable. they have thier products made for pennies and charge us hundreds or thousands for it. thus increasing their profit margins.

          5. worn out 123 says

            I don’t believe I am. — BBA
            Please make sense. Moving hdqtrs. out of the U.S. while MAINTAINING PLANT PROPERTY AND EMPLOYEES IN AMERICA does not reflect any significant hiring in foreign nations.
            What you’re referring to is not that which I addressed, rather another very real and yet much different problem. Some of these manufacturers would return if not for super high business taxes they would face in America. This, in large part, to a better workforce; more expensive, but superior in some ways. Union vs non-union workforces are an entirely DIFFERENT subject and not the reason corporations move their headquarter out of the U.S. EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS LOWER BUSINESS TAXES THAN AMERICA. How can we compete with that? You need try to learn to deal with reality of business in order to understand why companies are leaving the U.S. ** What constitutes {greener pastures} for businesses?** I reiterate that “capital flows toward areas (nations) of better treatment.” Hence, capital flows AWAY from poor treatment. Create an equal playing field and the American workforce will prevail in many cases.

          6. Rick Kooi says

            Try this: Why have many large corporations moved their headquarters to other nations? Answer: taxes are too high for businesses. Taxes are much lower in other nations making America noncompetitive.

            (((((Capital flows where all costs are cheaper….taxes are only 1 consideration…Union Carbide tried to open a chem.plant out west….was driven out…not by taxes….by inspections, rules, regulations…cost of labor etc…..

            …..They jumped ship and set up In India….taxes had NOTHING to do with it.

            .((((( to be accurate, they had a small facility there since the 1930’s)))

            …for the price of a good meal for 2 in a descent restaurant here

            …they could pay a local inspector a bribe equal to 1 years pay.

            …..employees working in that facility worked a year for about 1/2 the price of the meal for 2 in a restaurant in this country…etc. and Union Carbide didn’t have to deal with politicians looking over their shoulders,

            There was some kind of a partnership set up to take advantage of financial perks offered locally to employ the teaming masses.

            etc. BHOPAL, INDIA was the site.

            Bhopal disaster, Bhopal disasterAFP/Getty Images chemical leak in 1984 in the city of Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh state, India. At the time, it was called the worst industrial accident in history.

            Bhopal, India: pesticide plantDaniel Berehulak—Getty Images News/Thinkstock

            …On December 3, 1984, about 45 tons of the dangerous gas methyl isocyanate escaped from an insecticide plant that was owned by the Indian subsidiary of the American firm Union Carbide Corporation.

            … The gas drifted over the densely populated neighbourhoods around the plant,

            … killing thousands of people immediately and creating a panic as tens of thousands of others attempted to flee Bhopal.

            … The final death toll was estimated to be between 15,000 and 20,000.

            … Some half a million survivors suffered

            respiratory problems,

            eye irritation or

            blindness, and other maladies

            resulting from exposure to the toxic gas;

            many were awarded compensation of a few hundred dollars.

            Investigations later established that substandard operating and safety procedures at the understaffed plant had led to the catastrophe.

            In 1998 the former factory site was turned over to the state of Madhya Pradesh.

            Bhopal disaster protestorsTsering Topgyal/AP ImagesIn the early 21st century more than 400 tons of industrial waste were still present on the site.

            .. Neither the Dow Chemical Company, which bought out the Union Carbide Corporation in 2001, nor the Indian government had properly cleaned the site. …Soil and water contamination in the area was blamed for chronic health problems and high instances of birth defects in the area’s inhabitants.

            … In 2004 the Indian Supreme Court ordered the state to supply clean drinking water to the residents of Bhopal because of groundwater contamination.

            .. In 2010 several former executives of Union Carbide’s India subsidiary

            —all Indian citizens

            —were convicted by a Bhopal court of negligence in the disaster. Continued corporate and government mishandling of the disaster sparked decades of protests by victims and others.

            Higher taxes for corporation will continue to drive AWAY business from America. This is not R or D. This is just dumb.

            >>>THE TOP 1100 largest firms in the states pay NEXT TO NO CORP. TAXES..

            >>>Tax payers in the USA give subsidies to US corp. whether or not they employ anyone in the nation….and we provide tax breaks to companies that wish to “expand overseas”…..once that expansion is done…they can move there plants there and still receive the tax advantage…

            Here’s a reliable business truth for you. *Capital flows to where it receives favorable treatment.* Does this make sense to you?…>>>>IT MADE lots of sense in BHOPAL……that sums it all up. The entire factory rusted thru..no maintenance….no inspections …. no life left.

            >>>>Corporations in the US now pay more for lobbying CONGRESS that all the taxpayers pay to support the institution…….IF YOU PAY THE PIPER, YOU GET TO CALL THE TUNE!!

            THE TOP tier, economically, in the US >>>in total taxes paid…included state sales tax, Soc.Sec., Income state and fed., property, etc…..

            top tier in total taxes…..paid 29%

            The next 3 tier pay total taxes of more than that….that’s about half the nations population…..pay more than the top tier.

            That 29% of total taxes paid…does not assets and income hidden in overseas accounts….Cayman isle…etc.

            If so, then why not this government?

            Way over half the new jobs created this last year went to foreign born workers in America.

            NEW JOBS CREATED

            are hi tech jobs………(not going to foreign illegals)……..but we give special immigration status to hi skilled workers from over sea to fill these positions….

            THESE ARE WELL PAID JOBS that Americans are not training for…

            They work cheaper. … if you are referring to Hispanics….they do work cheaper and harder and they do jobs AMERICANS will not do…..

            The number of foreign born, as a percentage of the general population, comitting crime is way beyond reasonable, yet government doesn’t care.

            Prison populations are higher percentages of Hispanics

            >>>>> but 3/4 of that prison population is for ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION…..not CRIME as I think you are referring to.

            Center For American Progress:
            >>> Full Deportation Would Drain $2.5 Trillion From U.S. Economy Over 10 Years.
            >>> In a report examining how full deportation would impact the U.S. economy, the Center for American Progress (CAP) found that a full “deportation approach would have the cumulative effect of draining $2.5 trillion over 10 years from the U.S. economy.” [Center for American Progress, March 2010]

            Center For American Progress: Enforcement Costs In A Mass Deportation Strategy Would Total $285 Billion Over 5 Years. In the same report, CAP estimated that it would cost $200 billion (in 2008 dollars) to deport all undocumented immigrants in the United States. CAP further wrote:

          7. Old goat says

            I know Rick it is disgraceful what these bastards get away with. And- I spent over 21 years active duty with two tours in Nam and retired with a measly $640 a month in 1977.

      4. Rick Kooi says

        Yeah Good Point Paula…….lets arm every body……NOW…look at your neighbors and tell me how many of them, armed to the teeth, do you trust enough with your life…….

        1. worn out 123 says

          We are already armed. We just cannot be armed all the time and so we r getting murdered, picket off a few at a time, in gun free killing zones created by idiots who also invite criminal invaders along side legal immigrants into the country to provide cheap labor for big business.

        2. Old goat says

          I do not think most of my neighbors are dirt bags and I trust them for the most part. What you must remember is that the criminal will almost always be armed. I understand why liberals trust no one. They are thinking everyone is like them.

        3. Getter2 says

          Just when I thought I couldn’t possibly see any dumber people posting stupid shit just to be heard; here you come and top the last imbecile. were you raised in an area where a lot of banjo playing takes place?

          1. Rick Kooi says

            haha..It never occurred to me that someone would take that comment seriously.
            sorry

          2. Old goat says

            Getter2: Are you okay? Is the treatment working?

        4. Patriot954 says

          I trust my neighbors when they are “armed to the teeth” more than I trust mentalities like you with a pea shooter. My neighbors, even the ones I do not know, are not thugs, criminals, or terrorists.

      5. Patriot954 says

        Thank you for that marvelous idea, Paula. I WILL pass it on.

    2. jim says

      elm you are correct

    3. Mister Vice says

      Don’t forget that Obama thinks (or at least he says he believes) that violence doesn’t stop tyranny, only better ideas do. If that were true we could hire Ford Motor Co to replace the American military!!

      1. Old goat says

        Sorry Mister Vice but I understand nothing whatsoever of your post. BTW what would Obummer know about ideas?

    4. Rick Kooi says

      God I wish you morons would stop the sh.t with “politically correct”.
      It has to do with view points
      …… .
      More guns in the Hands of More people
      means that we increase the likelihood that a
      REAL MORON
      will get a gun…..
      BUT
      More to the point…..
      ..MORE GUNS IN MORE HANDS
      means that the 4 million Muslims in America will be
      forced to carry guns to protect themselves from vigilantes like you
      ……….
      It will be sooner rather than later
      until we have another gun fight at OKEY DOKEY Coral.
      And the right wing militias have all the guns they want and
      that is why far more people die from those terrorist acts that
      Muslim Terrorist acts……

      1. elmcqueen3 says

        All shooters of notoriety since John Wilkes Booth have been Democrats or the offspring of Democratic parents…Not one was a Republican, a Libertarian, a Tea Party folk, a veteran, an Eagle Scout or a Christian…All were lunatic left wing liberal Democrats…Forget about those right wind militias…those boogy men exist only in the minds of folk like Hillary Clinton and other like minded liberal Democrats…However please note:
        * In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
        * In 1881 a left wind radical Democrat who changed his affiliation to Republican for convenience shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from his wounds.
        * In 1963 a radical left wing socialist, communist, and Democrat shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
        * In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots a Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
        * In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
        * In 1984 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people at a McDonalds restaurant.
        * In 1986 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
        * In 1990 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
        * In 1991 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in Luby’s cafeteria.
        * In 1995 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas laboratory.
        * In 1999 a disgruntled Democrat shot and illed 8 people at a church service.
        * In 1999 two students, offspring of Democratic parents, killed 12 fellow students at Columbine HS in Colorado.
        * In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the WH in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the United States.
        * In 2003 a disgruntled Democrat shot and kill 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
        * In 2007 a registered Democrat shot and killed 32 people at Virginia Tech University.
        * In 2009 a muslim and registered Democrat shot and killed 13 people at Ft. Hood, Texas.
        * In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
        * In 2011 a registered Democrat went into a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado and killed 12 people.
        * In 2012 a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
        * In 2012 a registered Democrat shot and killed 26 children at Sandy Hook elementary.
        * In 2013 a student and son of Democratic parents purchased a shotgun, took in to Arapahoe HS in Colorado, shooting up the school killing one female student.
        * In 2013 a disgruntled Democrat killed 12 people at a Washington Navy yard.
        * There have been other recent shootings of notoriety since 2013 by Democrats and or their offsping…however they have not yet been documented herein.

        1. Rick Kooi says

          MY GOD how your concoct B.S. to support your bizarre beliefs……

          United States[edit]

          During the 1980s, more than 75 right-wing extremists were prosecuted in the United States for acts of terrorism, although they carried out only six attacks during the decade.[54] In 1983, Gordon Kahl, a Posse Comitatus activist, killed two federal marshals and was later killed by police. Also that year, the white nationalist revolutionary group The Order (also known as the Brüder Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood) robbed several banks and armored cars, as well as a sex shop;[55] bombed a theater and a synagogue; and murdered radio talk show host Alan Berg.[56][57]

          The April 19, 1995 attack on the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma, by the right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, which killed 168 people.[58] McVeigh stated it was retaliation for the government’s actions in Ruby Ridge and Waco.[59] McVeigh attended Michigan militia group gun shows.[60][61]

          Eric Rudolph executed a series of terrorist attacks between 1996 and 1998. He carried out 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing — which claimed two lives and injured 111 — with the aim of to cancelling the games, claiming they promoted global socialism.[62] Rudolph confessed to bombing an abortion clinic in Sandy Springs, an Atlanta suburb, on January 16, 1997; the Otherside Lounge, an Atlanta lesbian bar, on February 21, 1997, injuring five; and an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama on January 29, 1998, killing Birmingham police officer and part-time clinic security guard Robert Sanderson, and critically injuring nurse Emily Lyons.

          According to data compiled by the New America Foundation, since the 2001 September 11 attacks, right-wing extremists have committed at least eight lethal terrorist attacks in the United States, resulting in the deaths of nine people.

        2. Rick Kooi says

          Let’s see some documentation that doesn’t come of A RIGHT WING BLOG and NEWS RAG……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          1. elmcqueen3 says

            Try the Huffington Post.

        3. Rick Kooi says

          RE: In 2013 a disgruntled Democrat killed 12 people at a Washington Navy yard.
          I couldn’t find any record of this guy voting AT ALL

          1. Rick Kooi says

            TELL me how wacko kids shooting because GUNS were so easily available….some how is caused by Democrat policies….
            Liar!!
            and I am a Goldwater Conservative and you nauseate me.

          2. elmcqueen3 says

            It shows.

          3. Rick Kooi says

            By the Way, The Boston bombers, 2nd cousin, 3 times removed was a Democrat and voted for Jimmy Carter….

            During the 1980s, more than 75 right-wing extremists were prosecuted in the United States for acts of terrorism, although they carried out only six attacks during the decade.[54] In 1983, Gordon Kahl, a Posse Comitatus activist, killed two federal marshals and was later killed by police.
            Also that year, the white nationalist revolutionary group The Order (also known as the Brüder Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood) robbed several banks and armored cars, as well as a sex shop;[55] bombed a theater and a synagogue; and murdered radio talk show host Alan Berg.[56][57]

            The April 19, 1995 attack on the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma, by the right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, which killed 168 people.[58] McVeigh stated it was retaliation for the government’s actions in Ruby Ridge and Waco.[59] McVeigh attended Michigan militia group gun shows.[60][61]

            Eric Rudolph executed a series of terrorist attacks between 1996 and 1998. He carried out 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing
            — which claimed two lives and injured 111
            — with the aim of to cancelling the games, claiming they promoted global socialism.[62] Rudolph confessed to bombing an abortion clinic in Sandy Springs, an Atlanta suburb, on January 16, 1997; the Otherside Lounge, an Atlanta lesbian bar, on February 21, 1997, injuring five; and an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama on January 29, 1998, killing Birmingham police officer and part-time clinic security guard Robert Sanderson, and critically injuring nurse Emily Lyons.

            According to data compiled by the New America Foundation, since the 2001 September 11 attacks, right-wing extremists have committed at least eight lethal terrorist attacks in the United States, resulting in the deaths of nine people.

          4. elmcqueen3 says

            Yep…your information is correct…however you forgot to mention they were all Democrats posing as right wing extremists.

          5. elmcqueen3 says

            I read it in the Huffington Post.

        4. Getter2 says

          You’re still buying that oswald story? and using it as a basis for a point? fucking idiot. LBJ and GHW Bush assassinated Kennedy. Oswald was the fall guy. what are you like 20? I watched Kennedy get shot, and neither you or any other soul on this planet is gonna convince those of us who saw that; that one guy fired those shots. Kennedy’s head moved in both a forward and backward direction after each retort. how does a bullet coming only from the front or only the back cause that?

          1. elmcqueen3 says

            Don’t tell me…tell it to the Warren Commission.

      2. William Benton says

        Rick lets hope the nuts that think like you are at the shoot out with their billy clubs.

        1. Rick Kooi says

          United States[edit]

          During the 1980s, more than 75 right-wing extremists were prosecuted in the United States for acts of terrorism, although they carried out only six attacks during the decade.[54] In 1983, Gordon Kahl, a Posse Comitatus activist, killed two federal marshals and was later killed by police. Also that year, the white nationalist revolutionary group The Order (also known as the Brüder Schweigen or Silent Brotherhood) robbed several banks and armored cars, as well as a sex shop;[55] bombed a theater and a synagogue; and murdered radio talk show host Alan Berg.[56][57]

          The April 19, 1995 attack on the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma, by the right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, which killed 168 people.[58] McVeigh stated it was retaliation for the government’s actions in Ruby Ridge and Waco.[59] McVeigh attended Michigan militia group gun shows.[60][61]

          Eric Rudolph executed a series of terrorist attacks between 1996 and 1998. He carried out 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing — which claimed two lives and injured 111 — with the aim of to cancelling the games, claiming they promoted global socialism.[62] Rudolph confessed to bombing an abortion clinic in Sandy Springs, an Atlanta suburb, on January 16, 1997; the Otherside Lounge, an Atlanta lesbian bar, on February 21, 1997, injuring five; and an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama on January 29, 1998, killing Birmingham police officer and part-time clinic security guard Robert Sanderson, and critically injuring nurse Emily Lyons.

          According to data compiled by the New America Foundation, since the 2001 September 11 attacks, right-wing extremists have committed at least eight lethal terrorist attacks in the United States, resulting in the deaths of nine people.

          1. Old goat says

            Yes and Hitler, Stalin and now others i.e., Kim Jung Un and others of their ilk slaughtered millions all because of you left wing nuts. Nothing to say about that Huh? BTW, the first thing these assholes did was disarm the population. People forget that Hitler was a socialist nazi.

          2. Rick Kooi says

            REREAD your history….The treaty which ended .WW!, placed very strong gun controls on Germany…
            .1st thing Nazi’s did was to remove these gun controls…
            ..used that to arm their hundreds of right wing militias..
            ..Some what later, once they and their right wing militias came to full powe,…that’s when they reinstituted gun controls….
            >>>>>>>>>>
            We are presently in the arm the militias era…along with anti-government propaganda…
            .need the population to lose confidence in all things governmental..
            ..then when today’s version of Hitler comes to power

            (perhaps TRUMP)…& .then Gun Controls will be reinstituted, with a vengeance
            along with control of the PRESS.

          3. Getter2 says

            Seriously, you need new material, you can’t keep reposting the same comments over and over and expect to prove any point you failed to prove the first time you posted the same shit. are these the only stories you can find?

      3. Old goat says

        And you can not get it through your head that the real morons will have a gun anyway. Honest good people obey JUST laws and disobey unjust laws.

        1. Rick Kooi says

          I forget what the exact figure is….2 or 3 guns for every man, woman, and child in American….

    5. Scopedope says

      If Obozo really believes that ISIS/ISIL et al can only be defeated by better ideas perhaps he should borrow a great idea from the Israeli Army (which you so aptly pointed out) & require our military to likewise carry weapons & plenty of ammo at ALL times. If the military can’t be trusted to not go on a shooting rampage, they shouldn’t be in the military at all. I personally believe that he doesn’t allow it is because he’s afraid that they’ll get fed up with the way he treats this country & our military heroes & shoot his sorry ass.

      1. Rick Kooi says

        ” I personally believe that he doesn’t allow it is because he’s afraid that they’ll get fed up with the way he treats this country & our military heroes & shoot his sorry ass.”

        Well,

        they might just shoot all the TEA PARTY members, like you,

        since you elect woooses who are pledged to vote against all Federal Programs.

        ……You remember TED CRUZ..

        ……”I’m going to SHUT DOWN the Government”.

        …….then cons the House members to do just that.

        ……..THEN He denies that he had anything to do with it.

        ………..and later bragged on a radio show that he was proud of shutting it down…………

        It WAS MILITARY COST OF LIVING increases for OUR military families that.

        …went down the toilet..(a Tea Party Toilet)

        ..tens of thousands of military families are
        …….ON OBAMA’s FOOD STAMPS…………
        because of TED CRUZ and the TEA PARTY PATRIOTS…

        REGARDING ISIS…….REALLY!!!
        THANK TO
        George W. Bush’s
        insane policies in IRAQ.
        Ken Adelman, Dick Cheney, Rummie etc.
        ….

        At the moment,
        Obama’s historic nuclear deal with Iran is center stage,
        but the much more widespread geopolitical problem typified by
        (though not limited to) ISIS has a much more pervasive political influence.
        Case in point:
        the emergence of ISIS, with its provocative spectacles of violence have
        **unexpectedly renewed American’s willingness to
        ***send troops to fight overseas, completely
        **** forgetting that this was precisely bin Laden’s reason for 9/11 in the first place:
        > to lure the U.S. into a “holy war” with Islam.
        Election year dynamics being what they are,
        there’s no telling how badly this could turn out.
        So before we go off and blow several trillion dollars
        recruiting the next wave of terrorists,
        perhaps it would be a good idea to reconsider what we did the last time around.

        First,
        though, an observation about framing arguments.
        Republicans, naturally, want to blame the rise of ISIS on Obama,
        which is absurd.
        Three extremely foolish actions undertaken by Bush
        were absolutely crucial for the emergence of ISIS:
        First,
        by responding to 9/11 as an act of war, rather than a crime,
        > Bush gave al Qaeda and its future ISIS off-shoots
        the holy war
        and
        > the status of holy warriors they so desperately craved,
        > but could never attain on their own.
        Second,
        by invading Iraq
        —which had nothing to do with 9/11, and was actually a counter-weight both to al Qaeda (ideologically) and to Iran (both theologically and geo-strategically)
        —Bush destabilized the entire region,
        creating a tinder-box of multifaceted incentives for sectarian violence.
        Third,
        by disbanding Iraq’s Sunni- and Bath-Party-dominated army,
        >Bush both ensured an intense power struggle and civil war in Iraq
        (with vastly more power in Iran-friendly Shiite hands)
        and provided Sunni terrorist ideologues with hardened,
        experienced military command personnel.
        > (The government Iraq ended up with, and the subsequent U.S. withdrawal ((a sign withdrawal agreement by the BUSH admin))))
        , were also results of Bush policy which Republicans have tried to blame on Obama,
        but they were relatively late-stage decisions,
        severely constrained by these earlier disastrous decisions.)

        The combined effect of all three Bush actions was to turn Iraq into a virtual hell—

        1. Old goat says

          You are truly deluded Rick! The best thing anyone could do is shut down the government!

        2. Getter2 says

          One of your points is way off target. Bin Laden had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Bush orchestrated that attack to get his fathers ass out of what was gonna be hot water and to destroy documents that tied his father to the assassination of JFK along with LBJ’s criminal contribution to that assassination.

      2. Old goat says

        Exactly! Remember, evil tyrants want a disarmed populace. This is the same reason senior military scumbags do not want their troops armed. Their troops do not trust many of them! I wonder why?

        1. Scopedope says

          Maybe they’re scared of the troops because the top brass are so busy sucking up to Obozo trying to save their own jobs that they don’t hesitate to throw the troops under the bus in the process. Obozo has already fired all the brass that even half way knew their way around & objected to the way he was trying to help the Muslim terrorists.

  9. Al says

    Obama would have our military go to war without firearms. It would help him and the other jihadists.

  10. Betty Lukich says

    Obama is an Muslim Terrorist, and wants to disarm as many people so that the terrorist can turn America into a Muslim Country.

  11. Morton212 says

    You take advice from Mr. Fraud Delay – very carefully. He will use every tactic he can find to shunt his way back form the desolation of a has-been – to an active role controlling the right wing of the Republican Party.

    1. Juan TwoTree says

      DeLay was found NOT GUILTY, you LibTurd stump broke wussy!

      1. Morton212 says

        I guess that explains that he is in virtual exile from the Republican party. LOL. There was enough dirt on him to grow all the vegetables a US city would need. The GOP could not wait to lose him

  12. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

    Tom Delay thank you for pointing this out cause cause this white house want.

  13. Paula says

    Why is it always a “former” politician or military that claim: this is right or obama is a traitor. Never hear from anyone still employed by the feds.

  14. worn out 123 says

    Shoot ’em all. Sort out the good ones from the bad ones later.

  15. Allan Stark says

    Tom DeLay is a cool righteous dude. He should still be the House Leader.

  16. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

    We today have a administration that is doing their best to disarm us and we must fight this every which way we can.. Obama and the democrats are trying their best to bring in this ( ONE WORLD ORDER ) Obama has gone to the ( U.N. ) ABOUT THIS DEAL WITH IRAN BEFORE CONGRESS AND I FEEL LIKE HE HAS DID OUR CONGRESS VERY WRONG.

  17. Patriot47 says

    Thanks Bubba, for weakening the (un)armed services. Thanks skippy for further endangering our troops.

    1. ben frank says

      Thank H. W Bush, he was the one to sign the directive on Feb 25 1992, that disarmed our services members. Effective immediately.

      1. coleche says

        All Marines are trained in the use of weapons. Even in 1971 mainside USA troops had to keep their weapons locked up in the amory. We didn’t have a choice.

  18. John Q. Public says

    You guys won’t stop till America is just like Nazi Germany !!! That will never happen you may be wusses but the rest of us are better then that !!! All we have to do is get the guns out of the nut cases hands like you !!!

  19. Jr1776 says

    Obama doe’s not want them armed, he wants them vunerable, just like us !

  20. Morton212 says

    It is an absurd strategy – to arm the recruitment centers. It would take one hand grenade to wipe out most of them – fat lot of good armed recruiters would do then. They will have to be moved out of places where there are a lot of the public milling around.

    1. tubesaft says

      They would still have to worry that the one in the bathroom comes out shooting. It appears that the last shooter was looking for ‘suicide by police’. If the recruiters were armed it might have happened faster.

      1. Morton212 says

        I think that if anything the death rate would rise rapidly – not just of soldiers, but also of innocent members of the public.

  21. Tallcoach says

    Obama’s take on gun control is an absurd opinion. ” An opinion, no matter how absurd, will be believed by too many American people, if they think that opinion has been generally accepted.” Something about the politically correct sheep following their kind over a cliff.

    1. Morton212 says

      You think ? On the face of it – I am not against gun ownership. But the gun laws are a sham. They are riddled with loopholes – and largely unfunded in terms of prosecuting offenders. Since a gun offence is not listed as immediately dangerous to the public, it is way down on the budget for allocating resources. It costs over $ 100,000 to successfully prosecute someone for a felony – and misdemeanors are rarely prosecuted.
      Give me a water tight method of managing gun safety (testing gun owners to endure they are not dangerous to the public) and managing the sales of firearms in a far more reliable way – and I might become an NRA member. But until then – I am against you.

      1. tubesaft says

        Give me a water tight method of managing driver testing to endure they are not a danger to the public and I will buy a GMC car.

        1. Morton212 says

          Drivers are licenced – and they must be relicenced once they get older. Their misdemeanors can deprive them of their driver’s licence. There is a very simplified court system for just that purpose. Their cars and trucks are checked annually for safety. There is nothing like that kind of rigor in owning a gun.

      2. Sarah Meador says

        The concept is that criminals are, by and large, a group of cowards. If 100% of the population is armed, the 10% that are in lines to murder, rape, or rob you are going to be so afraid of losing life or limb in the process that violent crime will become nearly unheard of. Of that 10%, maybe half are Muslims dedicated to jihad… But their religion state’s that until they as a culture are in a position of power in the nation, they are to maintain Taqiya meaning pretend they are not a threat.

        1. Morton212 says

          The concept that ‘ criminals are, by and large, a group of cowards’ is really absolutely absurd. What is your evidence for such a stereotyped idea ?

        2. worn out 123 says

          I can agree to a point, Sarah. Criminals such as the bully Harry Reid are surely cowards. However, extreme idealogs are often excitable creatures who convince themselves to feel somehow vindicated to conceive and enact heinous acts against some segment of society. I like to express it this way: They are the victims of wrong thinking. In a free society, however, one must accept responsibility for ones thoughts when put into action. That’s the price of liberty and I wouldn’t have it any other way, myself.

      3. Old goat says

        Good Morton and I am against your kind as well. You sound like a know-it-all type of person. You are spouting gun-control. Do you work for Obozo?

        1. Morton212 says

          Good. I have raided the shackles on your neck. You pontificate about things that you have never thought through.

          1. Paula says

            You’re here to enlighten and teach us “Tea Baggers” eh? WOW I just don’t know how to thank you.

          2. Morton212 says

            Never look a gift horse in the mouth. It just might kick you

          3. Mark Lahti says

            With it’s mouth? As usual you have your whole argument bass ackwards.

          4. Morton212 says

            meaning – Don’t look a gift-horse in the mouth – English …
            english.stackexchange.com/…/dont-look-a-gift-horse-in-the-mouth
            May 9, 2011 – A gift horse is a horse that was a gift, quite simply. When given ahorse, it would be bad manners to inspect the horse’s mouth to see if it has bad …

          5. Mark Lahti says

            Spin, spin, spin. Seems that that is about all you are good for mortie the troll.

          6. Morton212 says

            I take pleasure in explaining things like this to the ignorant.

          7. worn out 123 says

            You mean like V. Jarrett is helping Obama give us the “gift” of communism? The ACA is right out of Sal Alinskis playbook. Socialists prefer to think of Obama as a Marxist. Personally, I don’t feel the difference has significance as communism will prevail from Marxist and socialists views as did Lenin.

          8. Morton212 says

            I don’t mind having a detailed discussion with you – in general – that is as long as you don’t get your threads screwed up – as you tend to be straight forward and open to criticism of what you stand for. But this is a highly volatile topic – filled with people who have virtually religious views on the subject – so for me its more like cutting a path through highly dense forest – with little reward for the effort – since many if not nearly all of those who stand for unfettered use of guns do so from a belief that will not be budged in the face of real facts. So I am not going to go deep into the issue.

          9. Mark Lahti says

            You are absolutely no problem at all to refute. It is in the constitution and it is just four simple words. Shall no be infringed. That is all that needs to be said.

          10. Morton212 says

            I think you missed the most important part – that comes before that. ‘”A well regulated Militia’. There is no such thing as any kind of effective regulation in the gun laws.

          11. Mark Lahti says

            Again for the hard of learning. There are no legal gun laws. Shall not be infringed covers it all. The definition of a well regulated militia has come to mean the people of this great land of ours.

          12. Morton212 says

            LOL. THat is a huge self serving stretch. Utter rubbish.

          13. worn out 123 says

            Not so. Have you read the papers of James Madison where he refers to the need for the people who must stand to defend against tyranny. And T. Jeffersons quote about the blood of tyrants and patriots. No wonder Reid says patriots are criminals and domestic terrorists. Normally I am disinclined to make harsh criticisms, but, these remarks trouble me to no end. They cause me to think he doesn’t even belong in North America. Some people stand directly in the path of liberty and I think this bum eminently qualifies for that definition.

  22. ramesaz says

    The military needs to review their entire policy on guns. I spent four years in the Air Force during the Korean War and never touched a gun. I was in an administrative position but shouldn’t all military personnel be trained in handling weapons just in case they (even admins) have to fight. The very reason for existence of the military is to use weapons to defend their country and themselves.

    1. Old goat says

      Senior Military Leaders do NOT want their people armed! The military is not a democracy hence the total control. Too bad they do not have a brain,

  23. Irvan says

    The military should never have been disarmed. Especially after the shootings at the Army Post. Thanks to that directive we witness 4 more murders by islamic bastards.

  24. EXNFLFAN says

    Finally a Politician with a brain! I have said this for years but wasxalwaysctold to shut up! What did I know! Well as a Viet Nam Combat Vet, I can tell you what happen when we disarmed friendly civilians in Nam! IT WAS’T GOOD! A lot more innocent people died because of it! So GET RIDcOF GUN FREE ZONES and reduce and possibly end mass murders! THEN go affter gang bangers, drive by shooters, Felons, and true mentally deficient wanna be bad guys!

  25. EXNFLFAN says

    At a Congressional Hearing yesterday, one of our so-called leaders made a statement, “380 million American Home GROWN Terrorists killed 249 people last year on American soil, while Muslims totalling only 6.9 million in the U.S. only killed 12 people, it must be new math he used, cause my old time math percentages are 249/38000000=.000006% while 12/6900000=.000002%. But I think more were killed in the U.S. then he said by Islamic Assholes! By the way, the Islamic Assholes killed STRICKLY UMARMED people in GUN FREE ZONES, in the words of another high ranking Dumbass Democratic Politician, ” WHAT DOES IT MATTER”!

    1. Morton212 says

      They were NOT gun-free zones – sorry to puncture your punch-line. The targets were simply not carrying weapons, or were taken by surprise and consequently were unable to defend themselves adequately.

      1. Old goat says

        You punctured no one’s punch-line. They were gun-free zones!

        1. Morton212 says

          Check your facts Old goat. You are annoyed because I have shattered your diatribe.

        2. Paula says

          Lefties never listen and most of the ones that like to cruise Conservative sites are paid bloggers.

      2. Paula says

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/expert-chattanooga-proves-that-military-must-rethink-gun-free-zones/

        You can see the sign on the door.

        I was at one of the NEX’s in Chesapeake VA,,, sign on the Commissary door Gun Free Zone. I was there, I saw it.

        Recruiting centers don’t allow weapons because they need to be “welcoming,” Bland said.
        “They are in public spaces. Applicants need to feel comfortable,” she said. “They’re not there to get a rehearsal to join the Army.” (Kelli Bland, public affairs chief for the U.S. Army Recruiting Command Center)

        Gun-free zones were launched to reduce the use of deadly force unless absolutely necessary at military facilities, according to the 1992 directive under President George H.W. Bush. The policy was modified under President Bill Clinton a year later.

        1. Morton212 says

          I think you will find that the attacker attacked from outside the recruitment center. The recruitment centers typically are open to the rest of the mall – like a side show.

        2. ben frank says

          The shooter fired from a “carry gun zone”
          Where were those armed citizens we have been told would take this into them own hands.
          There are 14 millions conceal carry permit holders and maybe 1 to 2 million more that carry with a permit and you are going to tell us that there wasn’t anyone with a gun in in the mall parking “gun carry zone” to take down this crazy terrorist?
          I call, BS!

      3. worn out 123 says

        Really? In MO. there is open carry, however, each municipality can enact restrictions. Lets see now, theater, recruiting station, reserve center. I don’t recall ever seeing anyone armed in these types of places. Hmmm. Somehow I think someone somewhere made it illegal to do so. That would seem to my thinking that they are gun free zones whether federal, state, or local. To quote an infamous lady, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

  26. ben frank says

    I am sadden for.the soldiers that lost their life.
    Gun free zone, No.

    The shooter was in the parking lot and “gun carry zone”, and there are 14 million conceal carry permit holder and I bet 1 to 4 million that carry without a permit. He fired into both locations from the parking lot a “gun carry zone”

    Yet, just one not of these conceal carry permit holder fired at this crazy nut ball terrorist. And you can’t say there wasn’t someone with a conceal carry permit in either one of these parlor or “gun carry zone”

    I thought conceal carry was suppose to end all of this?

  27. Larry Cowden says

    It was clear to all the military back in 1990 when some damn liberal decided that the military couldn’t be trusted with firearms guarding military facilities, shipyards, and bases! We knew then that it would only be a matter of time before serious breaches by armed shooters would happen. You can’t replace dedicated trained military personnel with rent-a-pigs and not expect that to happen. And still the Obamamonkey won’t condone armed military personnel on bases, recruiting stations, shipyards and other facilities. HOW MANY MORE MUST DIE ON OUR OWN SOIL BEFORE THIS IS CHANGED? Notice the Obamamonkey has his armed guards all the time! CUNTMO in Albany has his. And yet nothing has changed despite the attacks here in the New DORK SUCKS state!

    1. Morton212 says

      How do you propose defending against something as lethal as a hand grenade with your determination that guns are the answer ? The terrorists are extremely exploitive – wait and see.

      1. Sarah Meador says

        Muslim-free zones?

        1. Morton212 says

          Would we all have to use identity cards then ?

          1. Sarah Meador says

            Nah, they’ll be naturally repelled,by the bacon-grease fumes. Can’t touch pig, can’t smell pig – since your nose is actually detecting tiny pieces of bacon by inhaling/touching them, which is what causes the smell…

          2. Paula says

            We already do… driver’s license.

          3. Morton212 says

            But they do not identify one’s religious beliefs.

      2. Larry Cowden says

        Every attack on a military installation, facility, or center has been with firearms. And many of these resulted in the deaths of military personnel. It won’t be long before they escalate to the use of suicide vests or even grenades. The point is, arm the military on our own bases, facilities, stations now to make it harder to conduct such lone wolf attacks. Obtaining hand grenades is a lot harder than firearms. Guns are still the answer to stopping them. An unarmed military is a dead military! If those Marines had been armed to begin with, there was a chance they could have stopped the massacre or limited the casualties.

        1. Morton212 says

          The army leadership determined that carrying guns on bases that are not in combat zones is more dangerous than not carrying them. And so they have military police that are highly trained in internal issues. Providing weapons at shopping mall recruitment centers – not only sends the wrong message to worried parents – but is more likely to result in many more deaths because they are swarming with civilians. Remember that terrorist attacks are focused on the media publicity that can be generated from an audacious attack. Arming the recruitment centers is playing into their hands. The only rational answer is to move them out of public areas like Times Square – and shopping malls – and put them in locations that are protected by military personnel.

          1. Larry Cowden says

            The army didn’t remove the marines and sailors from guarding our facilities, bases and centers. Yet they were removed. I totally disagree that arming our military on our facilities is more dangerous. We move large amounts of weapons, including nucs everyday under armed military guards and we don’t have a problem. The goal of the terrorists is to cause mass casualites where ever and whenever they can. Keeping our recruitment centers armed in public places WILL NOT result in more civilian casualties by our military. It will however make it much more difficult for them to attack knowing that armed military is near and can respond quicker than conventional police forces. Unless you are also implying that they can only be trusted with firearms when deployed to a foreign country in time of combat. As demonstrated at the Ft. Hood shooting, the time response for the paid security was still too slow! Too many were shot and killed or injured because Army personnel were not allowed to be armed! Same for Tennessee. Police response did not stop the killing even though they were chasing the shooter. REMOVE THE GUN FREE ZONES ON OUR MILITARY!

          2. Morton212 says

            Well I am sure you could offer your opinion to persuade the generals that their professional studies are wrong/

          3. Larry Cowden says

            Generals, like polecats go with the current adminsitration if they want to hold their jobs. And we have seen too damn many of them and other top military leaders fall because they disagreed with Obamamonkey these last few years. And the facts speak for themselves! The number of violent shootings at military facitlities has dramatically increased under his reign! And it is the islamics doing it! And he is an islamic sworn to defend islamic rights, not our country, military or our government. So called islam has declared war on us and our military on our own soil! And as a veteran, I take that seriously! Time for the military to arm up and take a proactive stance against these armed attackers.

          4. Morton212 says

            If you actually research your postulation – you will find that the only Senior Generals who ‘retired’ early – where those caught violating the Military codes.
            That included giving access to top secret information, to people that were not permitted to see this information, not following explicit orders from the Chief of Defence, commiting felonies like counterfeit tokens in casinos, and finally – those caught in adulterous relationships.

          5. Larry Cowden says

            I acknowledge those that did commit acts in violation of the military code and they should have been released. But there have been other not guilty of any misconduct that were “forced” out or to early retirement because of their stance on military strength, loyalty or other disagreements with the WH. And this trend was noted by previously retired officers before O! And these occurred after they were summoned to the WH to be interviewed or grilled by Obamamonkey. The numbers of those that left were alarming to many because it appears he was purging the ranks of all those that disagreed with him on foreign or domestic policies including the use of military force to enforce and maintain martial law if he should enact it. And that is a power he granted himself when he first took office and again the second time he took office under his own executive order. This is still a potential threat because he can enact it
            anytime in peace or national disaster.

          6. Morton212 says

            Try writing a list of these ‘unfairly dismissed’ Senior Army personnel. I think you will fin that they were retired for very legitimate reasons. Among them was the sequestra, which forced the army to prune its ranks. And I would remind you that the sequestra was a unanimous bipartisan vote in Congress.

  28. ben frank says

    That darn CONSERVATIVES H. W. Bush sign the directive on Feb. 25 1992 effective immediately.
    Bush 41 was the one to disarm our service’s members.
    Darn, CONservatives.

  29. paulrph1 says

    Yet the people keep electing them into office. Bill Clinton is responsible for these deaths and needless slaughter of human lives. Yet some would vote for H Clinton who is far worse than Bill Clinton.

  30. AWB2 says

    I have to wonder just how many “false flag” events has our government perpetrated in order to get general public support for one of their agendas? These kinds of covert events has been going on sinse at least the early 20th century, and I suspect long before then.

    As a result, I most often take whatever I hear (or see) from the government offices and agencies and take the opposite view to be “more likely” the truth.

  31. ben frank says

    Bush 41 signed that directive to disarm our arm forces Feb. 25th 1992 and it took effect immediately.

  32. Oldchopper says

    Not only should the military be armed in their bases and places of work, every American citizen that desires to carry a firearm be armed. Come and get it you cowering murderers!

  33. April Williams says

    OK, two questions. So our military took an oath to protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic.
    My question is the military get their orders from the president but what happens when the person giving orders is in fact our enemy? So, doesn’t domestic mean here in the US, so how can our military protect us here in the US if they are not allowed to carry their weapons?

  34. Michael Dennewitz says

    But of course, the HTNIC will fluff it off and say the shooter was just irritated because someone shit in his oatmeal. The little halfbreed bastard in office will NEVER categorize any of these damned shootings as terrorist in nature – he’d be ratting out his OWN PEOPLE! Further, I’m blown away by the fact that MILITARY SOLDIERS are not allowed weapons!?!?? They need to rename their city, “Shitcago!”

  35. Old goat says

    Mr Delay all TRUE Muslims have been radicalized! And this is the message ex-muslims tell us. Why do we not listen. Why are these terrible people in our country? We are so stupid!!

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      Simple old goat, because EVERYONE IS TOO CHICKENSHIT to stand up and drive them out!!! Cut N dried!!

    2. Morton212 says

      That is total xenophobic rubbish. Almost all of the radicalized Muslims are in the most highly impressionable group of humans – of any ethnicity – their late teens and early 20s – when they all go through an idealistic approach to setting the world and its imperfections right. Very very few become terrorists.

      1. Michael Dennewitz says

        Heyyyy. Queer Mortie is back, earning his TROLL PAY! HAHAHAHAHA

        1. Morton212 says

          Oh Miky! Don’t be so hurt and vindictive. I my reject your unwelcome advances – but there is a cup for every pot of tea.

  36. Sapperboy says

    Here is insanity. In Canada a soldier was killed by a terrorist while guarding the monument for the war dead. He had a rifle but no rounds. Now a soldier stands guard still and still has no rounds. A GREAT BIG target saying shoot me!! However he is under constant surveillance by the Ottawa police. Who have firearms but cannot use them nearly as well as the guy standing in the open with a rifle, but no rounds. Politicians are political and moral COWARDS, playing dice with the lives of the military. Military folks are TARGETS let them protect themselves, they protect us and you politicians.

    1. Morton212 says

      He was killed before he even had time to aim his rifle. Now stick that in your muzzle.

      1. Sapperboy says

        Won’t happen again if he had had rounds. Now stick that up your ass.

        1. Morton212 says

          I doubt that that unfortunate soldier will be reincarnated.

          1. Sapperboy says

            LOL. You win. You’re the smartest guy out there.

        2. Paula says

          A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don’t have one, you’ll never need one again

          1. Sapperboy says

            So right Paula. But not good enough for a liberal.

  37. ben frank says

    This Nuttball started shooting from a parking lot, a “gun carry zone”
    With 14 million conceal carry permit holder and another 1 to 2 million that carry without a permit, not one of these armed citizens engage this terrorist nutbsll in either park lot (Gun Carry Zones)
    I thought more guns in the hand of citizens would make us safer?

    1. Morton212 says

      Yes. Your are striking right at the myth of carrying weapons to defend yourself. In most cases – the shock and surprise of the attack renders them defenseless even if they were armed. That kind of knee-jerk reaction – takes a great deal of training – and – retraining.

  38. Lizard says

    As usual Obama trying to disarm American people so Muslims can kill american people without fear of being shot /// Just do as please folks Obama can not even pass background check so his laws mean nothing

  39. Lizard says

    Thats Obama for you he claims to care about people lives but he lets killers flow across border to kill american people

  40. jjeac says

    When the socialist “News” media get away from their propaganda long enough to actually provide real NEWS it should slowly become evident even to socialists that the United States is a War Zone. The
    rest of us, particularly the families of innocents killed by Muslim extremists, Maniacs and Criminals, already know that. Barring our military from carrying arms in a war zone is a criminal obamination. They need to protect themselves, and us, not be cannon fodder for our enemies.

    By the way it is a crime to enter the United States illegally, people who commit crimes are criminals, illegal entrants are criminals not immigrants. I arrived in the US as an immigrant but now I am a Naturalized Citizen. The term “illegal immigrant” is a contradiction and “legal immigrant” shouldn’t be necessary. Maybe to clarify for socialists we should use the term “authorized, legal, non-criminal, law
    abiding immigrant” to get the point across to them.

  41. cjg says

    Obama is so damn stupid.. everyone should have a gun crime would go down. If those military personal had theirs, guarantee that shooter would have been stopped. You know that illegal muslim obama has no brains or common sense along with the entire admin up his ass no one does nothing but cry. I think they all get their lowers removed then more idiots would not be brought into this world. They get so stupid when they are in washington that they could take their brains out and play marbles. And that includes the liberal whinny dumb idiots too.
    The only good muslim is a dead muslim.
    And illegals included.
    You onky get mine one way WHEN U PRY IT OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!

    1. Morton212 says

      There are places like that in the world. One is Syria – and another is Iraq – and yet another is Libya. Come to think of it – most of the Arab world is armed to the teeth.

      1. cjg says

        Yes thats there this is here. We r not muslim YET

        1. Morton212 says

          I must compliment you on your remarkable logic. Do you think that they may be a different species perhaps

  42. Baljit Rattu says

    One of the most stupid thing i have ever heard a military base without guns. That’s what you get when a president is elected based on his color. I wish some one remove the lead terrorist in the White House

  43. Michael Dennewitz says

    If the truth be known, the little halfbreed bastard in DC probably SENT the shooter there. He never fails to use these kinds of tactics to divert our thinking on what he’s REALLY WORKING ON !! Think about it!

  44. Wayne Thorson says

    I don’t know where you far right Republican pinheads think that Obama wants to take away your arms if you are not a felon. The poll shows that the majority of the American people want background checks. That means Republican voters also and there are just as many Democrat voters that own guns as there are Republicans. The firearms dealers have brainwashed you into thinking he is coming after your guns and he is not. They know as long as you think he is their gun sales are safe whether it is to a felon or not. I don’t want to hear there is already background checks on sales of firearms. That only applies to licensed firearms dealers. I can sell any gun to a felon and he can use it any way he wants and I am not in trouble because of it. This isn’t right. I should be held responsible for not getting a background check on the sale.

  45. bayoucastine says

    My letter to all my US Senators and US Representatives:
    July 20, 2015 6:50AM

    US Military Personnel: To be armed or – not to be, anything
    REFERENCE: The Fort Hood shooting, to the Chattanooga
    and untold other shootings by Muslim sympathizers

    The Muslim culture believes we are all at war. When are “we” – the western culture – supposedly lead by the USA , going to wake up and realize there is a full blown ‘state of war’ being waged against us?
    The following is an excerpt from an article referenced at the bottom.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Title of an article:
    Famous Muslim cleric: No sanctity in Islam for Obama’s life Prediction: We’ll ‘increasingly’ see more attacks like Tennessee
    Published: 7/19/2015

    During an American radio interview Sunday, radical British Islamist preacher Anjem
    Choudary spoke about whether the recent attack on two military facilities in Tennessee
    was justified according to Islamic Shariah law.

    “One has to have a look at this from the perspective of the reality which is seen coming upon us today in the world, which is the fact that we have an Islamic state,” said Choudary. “You have Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who is the Caliph, and of course the order has come from him to attack the interests and
    the personnel and in particular the army of those countries who are at war, in particular America and Britain and France and others. We’ve seen this before in France, and we’ve seen this in Tunisia, and now we see this in Tennessee. I think that this is inevitable.”
    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/no-sanctity-in-islam-for-obamas-life/#PiV1wYJudSuDRKAm.99
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Gentlemen, Based upon the above article as well as other documented cases and facts we must not only be reactive and defend our western [Judo-Christian] culture we must proactive. We must stop the immigration of our enemies from the Islamic culture into the USA. We do not/should not allow the USA to become locked in with the Islamic culture as Great Brittan has now become ‘captured’.

    The two cultures are no more compatible than fire and water. When at war one does not allow the enemy to freely enter your country – and take up residence – and hold offices – especially political offices. Getting close and ‘cuddly’ with a vowed enemy is deadly. Take a look at the Fort Hood, Chattanooga shootings and all the other situations. A country without borders is not a country.

    Congress Members: Please consider what must be/should be done – soon.

  46. Valor says

    Fact! Gun control laws and policies are not and never have been about public safety. They are and always have been about the safety of those in power. The first serious gun control laws reared their heads soon after the Civil War as one way to deny recently freed slaves newly acquired liberties by the Demorats in power in the southern states. Every since that time the Demorat Party has been at the forefront in the effort to disarm all citizens with the ultimate goal of protecting their power over the people. Anyone that can’t or won’t see that deserves to loose their liberties.

    1. Morton212 says

      You will find that there is not a single Congressman, from either party, that likes the idea of armed citizens anywhere near the Congress. One should assume that what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. The current farce is to pass gun laws to satisfy one half of the nation, and to provide countless loopholes and no funding to prosecute them, to satisfy the other half of the nation.So get over your silly ideological distinction. Your representatives do not really believe in it – they do little more than pander for votes.

      1. Mark Lahti says

        And just how is it that you alone happen to know the hearts and minds of all congressmen? Quite an arrogant assumption I would say.

        1. Morton212 says

          I suggest you read the House and Senate agendas – and votes. They have all been 100 percent on issues that brought guns anywhere near our representatives. They did not get the accolade of hypocrisy for nothing.

  47. jimwilson81 says

    Common sense? What’s that? It goes against the so called scientific, progressive agenda of this administration, so who should use common sense these days?

  48. Niki says

    More guns = more safety for Americans.

  49. shavager says

    In the 20th Century socialists, fascists, liberals, progressives, communists took GUNS away from people in hundreds of countries around the world through CONTROL, it resulted in 70+MILLION MURDERS. The SOLE reason Obama wants to take our GUNS–is DICTATORIAL CONTROL over the American citizens, period! He IS a muslim socialist and he proves it with his actions. I don’t CARE what he says–ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS and his actions have proven him a TRAITOR to this country, a FRIEND OF OUR ENEMIES and ENEMY OF OUR FRIENDS!! Benedict Arnold Osama Obama–the EVIL of Hitler, Stalin, Pohl Pot, Idi Amin, Ho Chi Minh, reborn in the soul of an anti-American muslim manipulator.

    1. Morton212 says

      One of the falsest myths that the gun lobby likes to push. The problem is that it is simply not true.

      1. shavager says

        B.S.–YOU can’t show me any photos of Russian citizens armed, NO Germans during WW II ARMED against Nazis OR Allies, the slaughter of people around the world were in the MOST controlled societies and countries.There is NO armed citizenry around the world, most countries have disarmed populaces. The U.S. is the ONLY world power that has an armed citizenry, the Brits, Aussies, Canadians, etc…have a strictly controlled society when it comes to guns. Bill Clinton’s ’94 Gun Control bill was almost a resurrection of Hitler’s from ’38. And it proved to be of little consequence to stopping CRIME or killing. MURDER has constantly fallen in this country UNTIL this president’s attacks against gun ownership and HE is fueling the unrest and violence with his anti-American views and divisive comments.

          1. shavager says

            The Swiss AND the Israelis. As it happens, recent FACTS about deaths in U.S.: Tobacco is #1 KILLER, followed by MEDICAL ERRORS. Firearms are ranked #10 of top ten causes of DEATH in the U.S. To contrast: Chicago has few if any gun stores, Houston Texas has 84 stores but a total of 1500 legal places to purchase firearms. Their populations are Chicago 2.7 million, Houston 2.15 million. Household incomes are almost identical though Chicago has a 14% higher number of black households than Houston. NO concealed carry in Chicago to speak of since Rahm Emanuel continues to put roadblocks in front of citizens obtaining them, but Houston does have it–results–HOMICIDES in Chicago in 2012 were 806 while Houston’s was 207, homicides PER 100 people–Chicago-28.4, Houston-9.6. The U.S. has THE MOST GUNS of any country in the world but ranks ONLY 24th in murder rates–SURPASSED by #1 Columbia, #2 South Africa, Venezuela, #5 Russia, #6 Mexico, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, #11 Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, #16 Zimbabwe, Costa Rica, Poland, #21 Georgia (NO, the Russian satellite, NOT the state), Uruguay, and Bulgaria. MOST of these countries are COMMUNIST and do NOT allow citizens to be armed with much more than outdated guns, if any.

          2. Morton212 says

            You are a little too desperate to build your jigsaw puzzle. Unfortunately homicide statistics are reported very differently from nation to nation, and even between municipalities. There s simply not enough reliable data to make even informed judgments on this issue. So where does this leave us ? Only the most generalized conclusions are remotely useful. Desperation may cause economic criminal acts. Greed may cause others. Humiliation yet others. Family relationships yet others. Do you classify a police killing as suicide or resisting arrest.. Crime figures are sometimes manipulated to prevent a hit on the municipalities real estate values and thus tax revenues. In the USA a great deal of valuable information is simply not filed or made available for analysis or validation due to efforts from powerful lobbies to prevent the redlining of their memberships.

          3. shavager says

            Morton, stop trying to make excuses for why your narrative doesn’t fit the statistics and facts. Those sources about top ten DEATHS in America are straight from Centers for Disease Control. Most USED weapon for ASSAULT in the U.S. according to the FBI-BASEBALL BATS. U.S. crime rates FELL for 18 of 20 years, 49% drop since the all-time HIGH for violent crime in 1991. That includes a 52% DROP in murder rate even as the number of guns owned rose to all-time highs. Of a TOTAL of homicide deaths from 2007 to 2011, 68,720–only 46,313 were attributed to GUNS and many of those murders were criminal/thug acts against the public as well as against competing gangs, Chicago being a perfect example. Still, GUNS are number 10 on a list of top ten causes of death. We have a president who’s trying by executive order to DISARM Americans even as he was selling weapons to Syrian Al Qaeda forces-an ENEMY of this country and Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman of the Sinaloa drug cartel during Obama’s “Fast and Furious” scandal that he hides behind using executive order. GUNS have no conscience and no self motivated action, the responsibility lies solely with the user–look around at the metro areas and neighborhoods, THERE lies the answer for rise in crime rates and deaths by gun.

      1. shavager says

        Post that drivel somewhere else, it’s a FACT, unarmed populace is a DOMINATED people. Crime has skyrocketed in England, Australia and South Africa since the people have been disarmed. Those weapons they are allowed to have are useless against any police or military force. Thousands of white South Africans have been slaughtered under Nelson Mandela’s African National Congress. Russia established gun control in ’29, Turkery in 1911, Germany in ’38 & ’39–C’MON, show us those ARMED German citizens over there back then–they were called the GESTAPO and they weren’t “citizens”. In the U.S., MILITIAS have NEVER been a tyrannical force or a force for attempting civilian rebellion in this country since Independence was won, they have been self defense, not promoting anarchy.

  50. ben frank says

    Since President Obama took office, millions of gun have been sold.
    2009: 13636 murders
    2013: 14196 murders

    I thought more guns was supposed to make us safer?

  51. Spark1845 says

    As far as I am concerned, WE should treat ALL muslims as radicalized. PERIOD. Treat them ALL the same. No time to check who they really are. It may cost an AMERICAN their life. SCREW THAT.

  52. Charles A. Stone says

    In 1992 the bill to disarm the military @ bases in this country, “ONLY”, IF THEIR WERE NO THREATS TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY & OR THEIR OWN SAFETY. It is TREASON, if a Commander-In-Chief does not allow base personnel to be armed when They & this great country has been threatened. Charles A. Stone WW2 Vet.

  53. dinkerduo says

    Why are there any recruiting centers left?!? The military is being dismantled and troops are being fired as we speak so why are they recruiting others?!? Why is Obozo letting go EXPERENCED guys and gals–only to replace them with NON-EXPERENCED ones—-hummmmmmmmmmm–maybe it is so they won’t be quite so ready and able when the SHTF!!!

  54. Michael Dennewitz says

    As the old saying goes, “After the horse is out of the barn, then you close the door!”
    What needs to happen is for these terrorist to attack a few politicians and their families. You can bet your ass things would change very quickly!!!

    1. Morton212 says

      No doubt. I suspect that if a terrorist gained access to the speakers gallery in either house – then the entire assembly would be murdered. The most likely consequence of that would be the virtual end of our democracy – and a quasi military autocracy might appear.So allowing people to carry weapons in DC would be alarmingly risky.

  55. ZO666 says

    Deport Ubama!

  56. ZO666 says

    Ubama’s holy war against America and Americans.

  57. hora says

    Why not disarm a Secret Services? That show one point, what real are liberals, who must loose political representation, vote and carry any weapon. Liberals are hate venom and need destroy all.

  58. Jesus is God says

    If Obola interferes with the arming of the military, then after the next killing, he will be guilty of accessory to murder.

    1. Morton212 says

      As the CIC he is permitted to make any ruling that does not violate military law. No military is constrained by a civil jurisprudence for a decision that is under the purvey of military command.
      I realize that you may b feeling a little hot under the collar – but you should try and confine yourself to fact – not wild posturing. You could start by contradicting our military command for not permitting soldiers to be armed .on military bases that are not classified as combat bases. The life of a soldier can be very stressful – and arming soldiers in an abundance of caution has been projected to be very dangerous for the soldiers.

  59. don lavrich says

    by disarming the American people, we will turn to illegal weapons which will make us criminals, in the lefts eyes, but we will still be armed no matter what they try to do.

  60. Mark Clemens says

    If it’s against military rules for military recruiters to be armed, maybe state governors should activate militia to protect the military recruiters.
    That’s what the Second Amendment is there for…..

    1. TexasStomp says

      Excellent idea, Mark.

  61. sgthwjack says

    Simple truth, as history has illustrated, time and again.

    1. Jubal Early says

      Those with the minds that crave leftist ideals always think that they can perfect their ideology, even though it has always failed with catastrophic results. It works the same every time. Conservatives, entrepreneurs, and hard working patriots build up a country and make it great. The wealth accumulated by the society breeds a large number of privileged children that pursue the ideals of the arts, social causes, social utopias and think they can achieve social perfection by eliminating the thoughts, freedoms, expressions and people that they think are destroying the planet. They are almost always hedonists and they don’t believe in personal responsibility and they like to shift the blame to objects that cause catastrophes and not natural human behavior. They think if they can disarm the people, they can eliminate murder and war, but they always keep the guns or other weapons for the government to protect themselves from the people. Their utopias always destroy achievers and producers, so eventually people start to starve to death. People eventually revolt against being controlled and the government always stamps down the revolts by killing people in mass.

      It’s always the same. They think that they are progressing in a straight line, but they progress in a never ending circle of tyranny. They just keep changing their name – socialist, national socialists, Fabian socialists, communists, Marxists, Maoists, liberals, progressives….

  62. Rick Kooi says

    Thanks for giving a CONVICT print space.

  63. Shauna says

    I appreciate that our elected officials are finally recognizing this, but why wasn’t legislation addressed when Ft. Hood happened? Why did another terrorist attack have to happen before they get off their backsides and do something????

  64. William Benton says

    Do you think the president goes anywhere that he is not protected by armed body guards. He thinks he is so special that he needs to be protected and we are not

    1. Morton212 says

      Yup. H has a RuPaul disguise, I believe.

  65. Obie Miller says

    Our military personnel are fully trained to properly use firearms. Since we trust them to defend our country, we, most certainly, should allow them to bear firearms to protect themselves.

  66. Jim says

    It is disgraceful the way we allow our military to be neutered. It reminds me of when the Marines were sent to Beirut as part of the “Multinational Peacekeeping Force”. They were not allowed to have any ammunition in their weapons and they weren’t allowed to defend themselves. We saw what THAT got us–an Iranian terrorist drove a truck bomb into the barracks one morning and killed 241 Marines and Sailors. All military personnel should be armed at all times, with orders to repel boarders and defend themselves and their post when necessary.

  67. MrsTJNic@aol.com says

    That’s right! Even crime rate in Chicago went up when they started Gun Control. I’ve thought about that for a long time, that the White House should just say “Gun Free Zone,” & see how secure he feels, after those Sandy Hook kids got shot. We should start by having Diane Feinstein turn in HER 9 mm GLOCK! Deport all Muslims like Denmark did, & their crime rate went down, 80%.

  68. mike dar says

    Politicians for ‘Political’ reasoning allowed some 6 million Muslim faith followers to enter the country, arming will not change what is coming, it will only defend against. While we must ‘Defend’, Defending is reactionary, not much in the way of proactive.

  69. Weymouth Renee says

    After reading the previous comments by the person who can dictatype (make up words since scientists make up their stats) an article from a scientific research project from PRINCETON UNIVERSITY, I’m more concerned than ever before about how brainwashed many of us are! ☑☑ ➖➖

  70. Ted says

    Who sold the gun free zone in this country? They sure have a lot to be proud of with all the innocent lives that have been taken since it’s inception. Kind of makes you wonder just how it happened. I am sure it was sold as keeping the children safe. My idea of a modern day school zone: Campus is Monitored by Cameras, our Staff is Armed

  71. Robbert Hoekstra Azusa says

    Why does
    Obama have heavily armed guards around the White House and not just unarmed
    guards? Didn’t he once claim that this country has never been so safe since
    9-11? So, why not have the military carry side arms for their own protection
    from radical Islamists in their own country?

  72. Walter Flatt says

    I WANT A SMART BUS MAN WITH IQ OF 146+ FOR PRES, WE DO NOT NEED 1ST YR. SEN/GOV/HILLIARY FOR PRES. DONALD TRUMP IS THE MAN

  73. Walter Flatt says

    TOM DELAY IS RIGHT ON, IF YOU LOVE THIS COUNTRY, YOU WILL READ THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND SEND IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
    PLEASE THINK WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY TOMORROW.
    PLEASE PRAY IT DOES NOT HAPPEN, I AM. IT IS SCARY.
    QUESTIONS:
    1— HAVE WE BEEN SET UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION BY OBAMA, HILLARY AND KERRY? HOW MANY MUSLIMS ARE IN HIS MANAGEMENT TEAM?
    READ THIS AND MAKE UP YOU MIND WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON.
    2— WHY ARE THERE A BIG FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE. COULD IT BE TO HOLD MUSLIMS LISTED AS REFUGES? IS IT TO HOUSE RADICAL MUSLIMS?
    I HAVE INFO THAT WE HAVE 35 MUSLIM CAMPS ESTABLISHED IN THE USA. I VERIFIED THAT THERE IS ONE JUST OUTSIDE DOVER TENNESSEE, CLOSE TO FORT CAMPBELL, KY.
    3— KENTUCKY H AS A REPUBLICAN GOVERNER THIS YEAR MAYBE HE WILL TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT THE FEMA CAMP IN EAST KY., WITH ARMED GUARDS, I CANNOT FIND OUT.
    4— WHERE DID ALL THE AMMO GO THAT THEY BOUGHT UP?
    WHY TAKE OUR GUNS?
    5— I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, 85 YRS OLD, A CHRISTIAN AND A VETERAN OF THE KOREAN WAR, 52/53, AFTER GATHERING ALL FACTS, I VOTE FOR THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON, NOT A PARTY. PARTY’S HAS PRACTICALLY RUINED US.
    6— DONALD TRUMP HAS AN IQ OF 156+ AND THAT PUTS HIM ABOVE 99.9 IN THE WORLD. NOW WHO IS QUALIFED TOBE THE BEST PRESIDENT?
    QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF, REGARDLESS IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, OR INDEPENDENT. ARE THE THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS OBAMA IS TRYING TO BRING INTO THIS COUNTRY A START OF AN INVASION OF HIS MUSLIM COMRADS?
    7— ALL SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES HAD BETTER GET TOGETHER NOW AND BLOCK ALL MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING. CITZENS CONTACT YOUR GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES AND DEMAND THEY TAKE ACTION.
    8— WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN/IF WHOLESALE KILLING STARTS, HOLLER FOR OBAMA. YOU BETTER HAVE A GUN AND PLENTY OF AMMUNITION. IF ONE AMERICAN DIE FROM AN INVASION OF MUSLIMS, THE PEOPLE THAT LET THEM IN SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND PROSCUTED FOR ASSITING THE KILLERS.
    9— WE HAD BETTER ARM EVER SOLDIER & VET. WE HAVE AND FORCE THEM TO CARRY THEM WITH PLENTY OF AMMUNITION. IF MENTALLLY QUALIFIED. THIS SHOULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY. WE DO NOT NEED A PERMIT, WE HAVE THE 2 ADMENDMENT. NO JUDGE, GOVERNER OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WE CANNOT. A LAW HAS TO BE PASSED.
    10– TRUMP HAS A IQ IN EXCESS OF 156 AND IS THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON TO RUN THIS COUNTRY HE IS NOT OBLIGATED, HE IS A 2 FISTED, IN YOUR FACE, TAKE NO CRAP FROM ANYONE, INCLUDING THE PRESS.
    11– ARE THERE 35 MUSLIM TRANING CAMPS HERE IN THE USA AND ONE 8 MILES OVER IN MEXICO? I VERIFIED ONE WAS OUTSITDE DOVER TENNESSEE, 1/13/16.
    12– WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT TRY AND BUY UP ALL
    AMMUNITION WITH OUR TAX MONEY AND ARE TRYING TO TAKE ALL GUNS, IS IT TO HELP AN INVADING ARMY?
    WHERE IS THIS AMMUNITION AT TODAY?
    13– IS OBAMA BRINGING IN UN TROOPS TO POLICE OUR MAJOR CITIY’S? IF SO, COULD THIS BE PART OF A PLAN TO INVADE THIS COUNTRY?
    14– WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF AN INVASION HAPPENS?
    WOULD THERE BE A NEW PRESIDENT? I DO NOT THINK SO.
    15– WOULD IT NOT BE BETTER IF EVERY PERSON HAD A
    GUN, WITH PLENTY OF AMMUNITION, IF WE WERE
    INVADED?
    16– WHY IS OBAMA, KERRY AND HILLIARY. BRINGING IN
    160 THOUSAND YOUNG MUSLIMS? COULD IT BE FOR
    AN IVASION?
    17– WHY WAS A SHIPPMENT OF OVER 120 PLANES & OVER
    100 TANKS TO EGYPT STOPPED AFTER THE ARMY KICKED
    THE RADICAL MUSLIMS OUT OF CONTROL LAST YEAR?
    WAS THE SHIPMENT TO HELP THE RADICALS?
    18– WAKE UP AMERICA, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET.
    19– WHY DID OUR GOVERNMENT GIVE 5 TOP TERRIOST FOR ONE TRAITOR? WAS OBAMA PROTECTING HIS COMRADES?
    20– DID YOU BELIEVE OBAMA WHEN HE SAID ON NATION WIDE TV THAT HE WAS A MUSLIM? I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONLY TRUTH HE HAS SAID.
    21– DO YOU BELIEVE OBAMA TO BE BLACK? HIS MOTHER WAS WHITE, HIS DAD A NORTH AFRICA ARAB.
    22– DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS GOVERNMENT HAS FORCED ISRAEL TO NUKE IRAN? IF SO. I BELIEVE A NORTHEN ARMY WILL COME DOWN AND ATTACK ISRAEL AND GOD, NOT ISRAEL WILL DESTROY 3/4TH OF THAT ARMY IN THE VALLEY THERE.
    23– WHY HAS BLACK AMERICA TURNED AGAINST THE
    PARTY THAT FREED THE SLAVES. LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN, HE AND THOUSANDS OF WHITES DIED TO FREE THE SLAVES.
    24– DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE DEMOCRATS STARTED THE KKK. I KNOW THEY DID.
    25– WHY ARE OUR TROOPS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS AND AMMUNITION? COULD IT BE TO KEEP THEM FROM STOPPING AN INVASION?
    26– I COULD TAKE 100 ARMED MUSLIMS AND TAKE OVER ANY UNARMED MILITARY BASE, IF YOU WAS PREPAIRED TO KILL EVERY ONE ON THAT BASE AS MUSLIMS DO. IF SO, WHAT COULD YOU DO WITH 260 THOUSAND OR MORE.
    27– ANALYZE THESE QUESTIONS AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY AND PREVENT A UNBELIVABLE BLOOD BATH IF ALL OF THE ANSWERS ABOVE IS YES.
    28– MILLIONS ARE TRAINED AND CAN TRAIN OTHER TO USE GUNS, VETS,TROOPS,COPS, HUNTERS WE DON’T NEED PERMITS WE THE SECOND ADMENDMENT AND NO LAW SURPRESS THAT.
    29– I SAY, CONTACT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS EVERY DAY AND LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. ARE YOU FOR AMERICA?
    30– I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG I WILL BE ABLE TO SEND THIS OUT, OUR GOVERNMENT MAY DECIDE TO STOP ME.
    31– IF YOU ADD EVERYTHING UP IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE PRESENT ADMINSTRATION IS BACKING A MUSLIM TAKE OVER HERE.
    32– MAIL THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICAN OR INDEPENDENTS IF YOUR ANSWERS IS YES. & PRAY IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. I DO.

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