If Hillary Had Won, “Fake News” Would Not Be a Thing


A couple of days after the election, after the elitists in the media had finally absorbed the shock and had finished re-writing all of those well-researched pieces on “Madam President,” we finally got an explanation as to why America had made such a tragic, apocalyptic mistake: The rubes were tricked by an onslaught of fake news.

Yes, we learned that fake news stories eclipsed stories from mainstream media sources on Facebook, where millions passed around fictional tales originating from Macedonia, Moscow, and all points in between. Could this have decided the election for Donald Trump? How could American voters make the right decision if they went out on election day under the impression that Pope Francis had endorsed Trump?

Of course, while the usual suspects are putting a spotlight on fictional news that some writers just made up to get clicks, their real target is alternative media. They don’t care about outright nonsense; they care about the growing influence of conservative sites like Breitbart and the Drudge Report. The stories from these sites have a slant, but they aren’t fictional. And unlike the absurd National Enquirer-level stories that have gotten all the attention, these sites actually do have a significant influence on the electorate.

But most of all, they are looking anywhere and everywhere to find something to blame other than themselves.

Here’s what they can’t bring themselves to admit: That their “liberal bias” is no longer just something that Rush Limbaugh listeners believe in, like some kind of sour-grapes conspiracy theory. It’s a proven fact, and at least half the country has caught on. They caught on thanks to Fox News, Limbaugh, and conservative online media, but mostly they caught on because the mainstream media threw subtlety to the wind. They stopped trying to hide it. We saw New York Times editorials basically admitting that they had a responsibility to stop Trump. We saw leaked emails showing collusion between the Clinton campaign and news organizations like CNN. And we saw, day in and day out, the media tell us: We’re with her.

If Hillary had won, we wouldn’t be hearing this narrative about fake news swaying the election. Instead, the major media outlets would have celebrated their astounding ability to influence the public and doubled down on their liberal biases. Ultimately, these outlets were the architect of their own destruction. They just don’t have the courage to admit it.


  1. Justin Seine says

    All the mainstream news, to some degree, is massaged. I have given up trying to get the real scoop from our “unbiased” media and often get the news about my country from the BBC. I often get to read about things going on in my country from the BBC That are not reported by the New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC, NBC, CBS… They seem to have their own agendas and operate on the model – “All the News That Fits We Print” or “If It’s Fair, It Won’t Air”.

    1. MAHB001 says

      Be careful, the news from overseas is just another perspective, it is not always the real scoop.

      Now that we know that journalism is dead, and the MSM uses bias by omission to skew everything they produce, we must consider all sources of information.

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        1. MAHB001 says

          Flagged the scum puppet again…. Moderators please remove this inappropriate material.

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says

            LOL mostly liberals are…Scum hahhahaha

          2. celiayounger says

            you wish… look at yourself

          3. Mathew Molk says

            Why would anyone wish that most liberals are scum? Conservatives are the people that go to work every day and pay taxes. Liberals spend their time in safe zones petting dogs provided by others and making statues of the cackling witch out of the free Play Dough. I’m not sure about the “Scum” but liberals are defiantly parasites. ,,,and I WISH they would all be forced to go out and get an actual job and have to fend for themselves….. Mannnnn, how their tune would change then,,,,,That’s MY wish.

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          5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says

            Celia you are lookat you racist. weak, low energy, ignorant, a Crooked evil lying Hillary supporter & Libneral. enjoy from Crooked Hillary! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12308f3deb9367a5394b8c11fe5ed90c4d45d1ee696c74430630f7676987bd46.gif

          6. GODBlessRealAmerica says
      2. tCotUS says

        The cockroaches were forced from the building, but left their propaganda machines running. Now working out of their parents basements, flop houses, & public libraries they continue with their “paid” propaganda attack on America. America needs to be exterminate the roaches & their handlers.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Join the fight, keep the spotlight on and expose the cock roaches.


  2. MAHB001 says

    The Main Stream MEDIA has created this mess via their constant use of bias by omission.
    They have ignored so many stories that might hurt liberal progressive causes, when something like this shows up, people think it is plausible.

    Sadly, the Main Stream MEDIA will not change, unless we demand that they change…
    If we let them, the MEDIA will use this event in an attempt to make their own reporting look good.

  3. MAHB001 says

    If Hillary had won, Fake news would be all that we have left….

    Liberal Progressives (Communists) have taken up key positions within the MEDIA and control the MEDIA’s output. Just like Goebbels did, the MEDIA now produces propaganda for liberal progressives.

    Fortunately, We the People are catching on, and at least half of us no longer trust the MEDIA.

    1. Bob Marcum says

      Go back, into your hole, MAHB001. You spent nearly 2 years being highly offensive, to anyone who spoke negtively about killary. Now that she’s lost, you’re criticizing the media which spoke in her favor. What you’ve just said is rght, but, contrary to everything you’ve said in the past. Did your paychecks suddenly stop, when she lost ? hee hee hee

      1. libertybells2 says

        Wow what an observation?

        1. Bob Marcum says

          Yeah, dumb. sorry-bout-that.

      2. MAHB001 says

        I think you may have me mistaken with someone else.

        I have spent the last two years being highly offensive to anyone who supported Hillary.

        I have spent the last 4 years being highly critical of the MEDIA.

        The MEDIA is the primary reason liberal progressives have advanced as far as they have. What the Goebbels style MEDIA is doing is nothing short of propaganda for the left.

        Fight the MEDIA at: http://www.madashellboycott.com

        God Bless you Bob, but I think you may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed…

        1. Lynne Gillooly says

          We have had Fake News for 30 yrs. Once the corporate GOP got rid of the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE they hired Rush and others to take over the airwaves from coast to coast spewing their lies, propaganda and divisive rhetoric.
          These corporatists are very smart. They Claim the media is liberal to shut down any liberal bias. It is also called projection. The GOP corp. is a master of this. If the media was so liberal why wasn’t the 2 million emails that were lost in the Bush white house EVER a story. (using the private RNC server). Why does every American know about Behghazi, but cannot name 1 of the dozen attacks on American posts and embassies during Bush’s yrs?
          If Trump won the popular vote by 2.8 million votes, but lost the electoral vote all of you would be DEMANDING recounts and investigations. You know that is the truth.

          1. MAHB001 says


            I feel sorry for you. While it is true that we have had fake news for more than 30 years, you need to start doing your own research…

            Look up and read the fairness doctrine for YOURSELF. Don’t believe what you have been told because you are being mislead.

            The Fairness Doctrine is just another fake name like the Affordable Care Act, it is just another Government named oxymoron. It has nothing to do with fairness.

          2. Lynne Gillooly says

            I have spent 16 yrs researching the propaganda and power of talk radio. It was a brilliant corporate coup to take over the message. You might want to research the strategy of Goebbels and see how we have all been manipulated. He had a simple 3 part plan
            always have enemies (gays, liberals, immigrants, Muslims etc)
            Always be the Uber Patriots (so anyone who disagrees will be considered traitors)
            Alway have the means to control the message. Repeat it and repeat it until it becomes the truth
            In order to control the message the corporatist oligarchs had to get rid of opposing viewpoints. Read the Powell memo of 1971 (justice Powell). It is the blueprint for corporate oligarchs to take over.

          3. MAHB001 says


            You seem to be immersed in the subject as well as tied to your ideology. When you are that deep into something you can not see the forest through the trees. Your own research becomes tainted by your own personal biases.

            With talk radio it was the people who made the choice, liberal talk radio had its chances, but they failed. They failed not because the oligarchs forced them out of business, but because the people quit listening to their liberal garbage.

            Now what is interesting is that the oligarchs have formed a liberal cabal with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, ESPN, PBS, most newspapers and a ton of internet news sources. They are nearing the silencing of opposing views.

            They have forced opposing views out with the practice of bias by omission. That is how they control the message. Simply ignoring all things bad about liberal progressive news, and ignoring all things good about conservative causes, news, and politicians.

            If you want to identify who is a fake news outlet, find the outlets that only report one side of the news. And then repeat it and repeat it until it becomes the truth…. Like the left did with “Bush lied about WMD’s.” I have seen a tone of proof that Bush was WRONG about WMD’s, but smoking gun proof that Bush lied, that has not be presented to me. It is the greatest example of repeating a lie until it becomes the truth..

            “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”

            And the left has enemies, Conservatives, Christians, morals are examples of their enemies.

            Yes the oligarchs are following Goebbels blueprint to take over public opinion. But not the way you think.

          4. Lynne Gillooly says

            As I said, the plan worked beautifully. You actually believe the MSM is liberally biased. That must be why a majority of GOP voters believe Obama was born in Kenya and is a Muslim. They believe there is massive in person voter fraud with NO proof or facts. They believe Hillary is to blame for Benghazi, yet no one can name any of the terror attacks on US embassies or consulates during the Bush yrs (11 or 12). They ALL know about her use of emails, but no one knows about the 2 million emails that “disappeared” at the Bush White House using the private RNC acct. If the media was so liberal why are so many Americans ignorant of these things. I could go on and on about lies of omission. Rush is the king of doing that. That is why they HAD to get rid of the FD. Why are they so afraid of opposing opinions?

          5. MAHB001 says

            I am sorry, but your post is laughable. There is solid proof that the MSM uses bias by omission to slant their propaganda to the left.

            I don’t know where you get your “facts” but they are not based in reality. How about some proof or facts that support your belief that a majority of GOP voters believe 0bama was born in Kenya, and is a Muslim. That statement alone shows that you are applying a double standard to all your decisions. You do not require facts or proof from the “MEDIA” you believe in, yet expect all conservatives to back theirs up with proof and facts.. No doubt that if those conservative facts do not come from your left stream MEDIA, you will automatically dismiss them as conservative propaganda.

            Let me tell you, you are controlled. You have been brainwashed, you are a victim of Ideological Subversion.


            Go on ahead and dismiss this video as the defector dude explains, even if one places cold hard facts directly in front of a demoralized person that person will not be able to accept those facts when they go against their ideology.

          6. ABO says

            Yet again MAHB right on the money and perfectly stated. Thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent response to one so completely myopic and indeed bigoted.

          7. MAHB001 says

            Thank you,

            I really view these poor people as victims. As the video clip states, they have been brainwashed and somehow convinced that anything that goes against their religion, and that is what their ideology really is, a religion, whatever it is, it is wrong. The sources is wrong, the source can not be trusted, the source is an idiot, blah blah blah. They have completely shut their minds to anything that goes against their ideology.

            The video clip is also quite graphic as to what will happen to them as soon as they are successful at destroying Capitalism and setting up a communist state.. The dictators will not put up with their whining, these victims will be killed, and swept aside like a cockroach…

            Greatest worry right now is that the school system is cranking these victims out by the millions. They are incapable of reasoning, because they are incapable of accepting any facts that go against their ideology. They only see half of the data.

            Parents and Grandparents need to consider how valuable their offspring is and start getting involved in their education. I would be homeschooling my children these days. Regardless of the costs…

          8. ABO says

            Well said and accurate as usual MAHB, however I fear that the myopic Gillooly bigot will miss the point entirely.

          9. ABO says

            Gee. How did I know that as soon as MAHB set you unarguably straight on your utterly delusional rant that the name calling tantrum and baseless accusations would start. Typical liberal lemming with absolutely nothing to back up your nonsense. Crawl back into the hole in the ground your bigoted butt came from, dimwit.

          10. John says

            the more you repeat the lie the more you yourself believes it

          11. John says

            Brings back memories of the radio host during WW11 with all her bs

        2. Bob Marcum says

          MAHB001 ; I sit and ponder. It’s embarrasing to have to occasionally admit,

          I’ve gotten people switched in my mind. For the most part, my mind works just fine. However; on a few occasions I’ve had to eat my boot leather.

          I believe, I may have gotten you switched, in my mind, with AKLady ( ouch;;;;).

          No offense intended, neighbor. The only real offense is AKLady. ( If I may be

          allowed to make excuses; I’ll mention that, I’m 74 years old and the years have done more damage than I like to admit, in some cases. Luckily; the damage is only occasionally, a hindrance.

          Take care, neighbor; and, Best Wishes, for a Merry Christmas and a happy new year, and many more like it.

          1. MAHB001 says


            It has happened to me. Occasionally I too misread/misinterpret and even confuse people on line. It is hard to eat crow , I know. Occasionally I have even been wwwrr, wwrroo, wrong. with facts That too is hard to admit. ..

            Apology accepted, we are good, thank you for making it right. I hope to be as sharp as you when I hit 74.

            God Bless and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

      3. Bruce Kellar says

        Bob, you are in error here. Don’t be liberal, admit your mistake and move on to Make America Great Again.

        1. Bob Marcum says

          Bruce; U’re right. I wrote an apology, to MAHB001, for having gotten him
          switched ( in my mind / momentarily ), with the idiot AKLady. sorry-’bout-that.
          Merry Christmas, to ya, neighbor.

      4. John Williams says

        You are confusing him with someone else, that is simply not true.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          No confusion.

          1. John Williams says

            And you are confusing me with someone who gives a shit about what you think.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            DId you oearn sewer language from your mother?

        2. Bob Marcum says

          U’re right, John. I wrote MAHB001, and apologized. I had him switched, for AKLady. Offensive, yes; but, genuinely, unintentional.
          Merry Christms to ya neighbor; and, a happy new year, and many more like it.

          1. John Williams says

            Great he is usually always on the mark with the subject the AK broad, not so much.

      5. AKLady2015 says

        MAHB001’s hobby os onsultong people.
        He ducks from site to site doing that, all day, every day.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Why do you lie?
          Why do you embarrass yourself that way?

          1. AKLady2015 says

            The evidence is everywhere.
            No lie involved.

          2. MAHB001 says

            That is correct, you are an Alinksy troll liar. With no proof of your accusations, which makes you evil…

            I have not fought back any harder than I have been pushed.

          3. AKLady2015 says

            MAHB001’s hobby is insulting people.
            He ducks from site to site doing that, all day, every day.

          4. MAHB001 says

            AKLady is a troll, spreading lies.

          5. AKLady2015 says

            Yet, here he is insulting, yet again.

          6. MAHB001 says

            If the shoe fits AK…. If you feel being called a troll insulting, you should change your ways.

          7. AKLady2015 says

            Yet, here he is insulting, yet again.
            You are quite free with insults.
            t seems to be your trademark.
            You are also very immature.

          8. MAHB001 says

            Whatever you say Troll.

          9. AKLady2015 says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

    2. Never_a_Snowflake says

      I worked for metropolitan newspapers from the Detroit Free Press to the San Fran Chronicle and 10 or 20 “news” papers in between for over 35 years in the composing room. My experience has been that if you see it printed in the newspaper or broadcast over the air you can firmly believe that at sometime in the history of mankind these incidents may have happened but not necessarily as portrayed by the media. “Truth in journalism”, is bullshit! This is not a quote, but one journalism instructor in college said, if it is not true, make it up . . . if it is true, embellish! Journalists in general are liars, lies created to bolster readership or, to bolster viewing on television!

      1. AKLady2015 says

        Your post says you were fired and have a vendetta.

        1. Lisa4USA says

          Your translation of Never is a product of your warped sense of reality. Get help.

          1. AKLady2015 says

            The anger level says you were caught.

      2. Lisa4USA says

        Journalism, like so many other words have been changed by the leftist media and all the PC, lying, race-baiting tools of the Demo AND Repub parties. I’m glad you got out of that ‘business’, but you can join the legion of citizen journalist who have not allowed the truth to be buried by BS.

    3. AKLady2015 says

      The election has not yet taken place.
      The Electoral College votes on Dec. 19.
      They elect the President.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Unless there are a whole bunch of faithless within the Electoral College, this election is done.

        I realize that the Communist left has plenty of tricks up their sleeves. The left controls who counts the votes.

        “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes
        decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
        —-Joseph Stalin

        1. AKLady2015 says

          MAHB001’s hobby is insulting people.
          He ducks from site to site doing that, all day, every day.
          This is site #4

          1. MAHB001 says

            My hobby is making sure people like you do not spread lies…

            Your post is just another lie.

        2. Susan Short says

          That hopelessly stupid bixch, AK Lady, keeps telling us that we didn’t have an election yet. but that it happens on Dec. 19. I have to wonder what grade she got in govt. class! Anyway, the fact of the matter is that there WAS an election by the American people, along with many illegals who voted, which has already been proven, so don’t even try to argue that one. The idiots who wanted this recount have only helped to show how many illegal votes were cast, and can not even be counted! Now that is not fake news! The fact of the matter is that the Electoral College voting SHOULD be just a formality, and I believe that it will be. If, however, enough electoral votes should go against the will of the states that voted for Trump, and Crooked Hillary is elected president, you will see rioting in this country the likes of which we have never seen before, and some very ugly things are going to happen, and my husband and I will be a part of making that happen!

          1. MAHB001 says

            I pray there are not enough rogue electorates to elect Hillary.

            Bill Still is more than cautiously optimistic.


            The one scenario that Still did not consider is that the Congress could still have turncoat traitors in the Republican ranks that might ratify the election EVEN if the electoral college went rogue.

            Stay safe.

          2. Susan Short says

            Just to be clear, this was not Susan posting. It was the husband. I guess he doesn’t want to be associated with the post so is putting it on me (wife). Hey Dear, I didn’t know that you HAVE a husband.

  4. gotabgood says

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    1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says
  5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says

    GOD BLESS AMERICA & GOD BLESS DONALD J TRUMP OUR ELECTED PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  6. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says

    Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PRESIDENT TRUMP 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE LUV IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. celiayounger says

    dont give excuses and tell us false stories. HILLARY WON THE ELECTION but this election has to be or should be investigated. With Russian hand or someone(s) manipulating in several states like Florida, PA etc. Even he was surprissed he won. FRAUD. FRAUD. FRAUD. INVESTIGATION, computer errors and other ”stuff’ to fake the election.

    1. Dirty Daug says

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7be159ed3bb7066cd269604a18e209a19c25e3b60c3662fd4c9c6422e51acaa2.jpg Get over it, Trump won because the American people woke up to the fact that Hillary was a crook.

      1. ABO says

        Gee, she sounds like a pathological liar. How could that be???

      2. libertybells2 says

        And the list you showed is only a partial list…didn’t mention the questionable deaths of people who crossed them.

    2. Vassiliki says

      Sure there was manipulation of the votes. Illegal voting, dead people voting, fake voter registrations, etc. I was surprised that Trump did not win by a bigger margin, not that he won! But due to a) the shananigans of the dem party Shillary got more votes than she legally should have.

      1. mallen11 says

        She was extremely mad after Trump won and blamed her handlers and “slaves” that they did not do a good job of rigging the voting machines as they were told to do. I don’t believe she won the popular vote since so many machines were rigged. She was overridden by the power that is extremely greater than her; God.

  8. SouthernPatriot says

    The biggest fake news was perpetrated by the demented Democrat Party and its sycophants in the mass media, including the NYT, WaPo, HuffPo, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and all the others–they not just predicted Hillary would win, but gave story after story as it was indisputable news. The arrogance of the leftists was they were so certain they were correct that their reporting was how much she would win, how bad a candidate Trump was and all the /RINOs, CINOs, and anyone they could find with an “R” label who said they were voting for Hillary was the “cause celeb” for the day. The orgy of the media for Hillary was clear to anyone who even glanced at various news coverages. An unapologetic media will now spend their time over the next months and years slanting everything negative toward Trump and picking out their new heroes as anyone who obstructs, hinders, bitches, and opposes anything Trump may be doing to Restore America, and make America Great Again.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      You forgot to mention all the fake polls. The fact is Trump was never ACTUALLY behind, even with the illegal votes and dead bodies that voted for the Hillrat.

      DOWN WITH THE NANNY STATE, DRAIN THE SWAMP, and God bless President Trump.

      1. R. T. says

        I liked the fake polls to I don’t think they wanted to get their shoes dirty . You would see the occasional rural poll were it was Trump 60 ( or more ) vs Clinton 39 and then see their city poll Clinton 55 vs Trump 45 then figure in that California , Illinois , New York , are carried by their big city’s . You learn to look more at how many people show up at rally’s . I still thought it would be closer .

    2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says


  9. Jack Smith says

    American News has about as much truth as Russian Pravda (which means truth) news paper. Fox is the only paper that tries to tell some truth. Getting the truth out any countrie news is not easy,

    1. libertybells2 says

      I’m glad you said “FOX TRIES to tell SOME truth”. Because they walk a very fine line re liberalism…many of their staff are dems and libs and try to be subtle about their affiliations but we the knowledgeable ones can see right thru them.

  10. randy jackson says

    Had Hildabeast won (shudder the thought), “fake news” would be the reality of the lamestream media. It’s wonderful to see the lamestream media squirm, sweat and wring their hands with every breath Donald Trump takes.
    Ha—Trump won—-deal with it!

    1. 4mingthoughts says

      Mainstream is State media. They are producing massive ammounts of propaganda and trying to spoon feed it to us. Sadly they are going to ” censor ” media on the internet for ” our ” own good. I truly hope Trump kicks a few from the press pool and brings in some of the conservative online media and add them to the WH press pool.

      1. AKLady2015 says

        The Electoral College votes on Dec. 19.
        They elect the President.

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    2. AKLady2015 says

      The Electoral College votes on Dec. 19.
      They elect the President.

      1. randy jackson says

        And your point is?????
        The article regards “Fake News”…?????
        Once more you deviate from the facts with some obscure comment.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          The mainstream media is telling the public that Trump is the next President.
          The election has not yet taken place.
          What is “obscure” about that?

          1. randy jackson says

            Just so I understand clearly:
            You are stating emphatically that the Electoral College will elect Hillary?
            Just want to make sure I understand your position clearly.
            (Don’t know if you know this or not—-but I actually enjoy communicating with you. Even though we are polar opposites. Regards Randy 🙂

          2. AKLady2015 says

            No, I am stating the LEGAL REALITY that the election has not yet taken place.
            The enjoyment is mutual. Intellectual stimulation is enjoymen we share.

          3. Lisa4USA says

            I enjoy men too!

          4. James Maxwell says

            The election by the people took place and are now waiting for the confirmation of
            that vote by the electoral college delegates. The biggest question is will they
            actually vote they way they swore an oath to are like many corrupt politicos
            turn and betray the voters of the various states where Donald J. Trump won by
            a large majority. Only in bastion of left wing liberalism and corrupt is there a
            question. Cali being one of the larges in question at this point.

          5. AKLady2015 says

            The Constitution does not require the Electoral College to follow the popular vote.

          6. James Maxwell says

            Each state has different rules for those chosen to be in the electoral college.
            Some have iron clad contracts on how their picks are supposed to vote and some
            states have different rules. They are supposed to vote the way their state went
            but recently it has been revealed that if they do not some can be replaced in
            other states there is no control over the electors. The rules were set up when
            there were men and women of honor in office who were chosen to actually
            represent the citizens of their state not any political party. Today we have
            a bunch of cowards who can be bought off for “30 pieces of silver” so to
            speak as they can be bought off or threats made to convince them to change
            their vote. We have seen many different attacks upon them since the election
            and how it will play out will be watched closely. Good or Bad on the 19th we
            will know and let the chips fall where they may.

          7. Lisa4USA says

            Well, u enjoy intellectual stimulation in reality, but AK enjoys stimulation of ‘her’ imagination. The election on Nov. 8th was won by Trump and if it hadn’t been for massive voter and election fraud, by the DNC and their minions, he would have won in a popular vote landslide…The formality of Jan. 19th is a result of the election, not the election itself. It’s ’cause and effect’, something the leftoids don’t understand.

    3. daveveselenak says

      You must be referring to the Muslim-Marxist jihadist’s ole ugly commie political whore “Hillary the Pillory” Ding dong the wicked witch is dead – let “US” hope so!

  11. Eleanore Whitaker says

    Hillary DID win by over 2 million popular votes. Anyone can rig the Electoral College. And, after all, that WAS how Bush won wasn’t it? The Republicans knew that the ONLY way they COULD possibly win this election was to butter the palms of their Republican Electors.

    Awww….what’s the matter boys? Two Texas electors are already saying they will write in candidates on Dec. 19th rather than vote for Trump? One Georgia good ole good ole boy elector Baoky Vu said he plans to do the same thing. Awwww too bad isn’t it?

    The American public who are educated KNOW you rigged this election. All that remains now is proving it in the Supreme Court. You got away with rigging elections before. This is the end of the game for you frigbaggers.

    Fake news is what you see on that old Geezer owned media outlets..Fox News, Hannity and the rest of Murdoch’s Pro Trump bullshit artists.

    Too bad some of us are more savvy than you hicks who fall for every word out of Trump’s mouth. You planning on being good little righties now and helping the state of IN pay for the $7 million in tax subsidies Trump brokered for Carrier who already said Trump is a liar and saved only 730 jobs, not the “over 1100” that liar stated to make himself look good.

    You assholes are in for the worst snookering of your lives. But then, that IS what you narrow minded assholes always do. Isn’t it?

    1. Brenda says

      Eleanore: Have you not yet learned how the electoral college works and why it is vital to protecting your voting rights? Do you not realize that it was put in place to stop certain large populated cities from selecting who the President would be?
      And do you not remember that it was Hillary that “buttered” the palms of the delegates during the primaries that cost Sanders his chance of being the Democratic nominee? Do you not remember that many of the voting machines were “not properly calibrated” and votes made for Trump were changed to Clinton?
      You accuse the republicans of doing what the democrats have done in every election since the Gore/.Bush fiasco.
      As for the electors that choose not to support the will of the people of their state, based on nothing more than the phony excuse of “voting their conscientious”, if that was their real reason for not voting for Trump then they need to take a closer look at “their conscientious” and resign their positions.
      This country has not yet reached the point of having elections overturned by malcontents. We have not yet reached the point of having presidents selected by a few larger populated cities while the rest of the country has no say in who is elected.
      And really, calling someone an asshole because they do not agree with you is in fact placing the same title on yourself.

      1. James says

        Brenda, don’t waste your time. The old saying that you can’t talk sense to moron applies here.

      2. Eleanore Whitaker says

        BS. I know how the Electoral College is SUPPOSED to work. It was supposed to protect states with the smallest populations from being outvoted. So, do you want to explain why it is EVERY year TEXAS increases the number of Electoral College Electors when its population numbers don’t warrant those increases?

        As for your claim that anyone asking for their Constitutional right to recounts in elections or overturning them, as usual, you hicks have your own version of history. In your version you won the Civil War and you bailed yourselves out all by yourselves out of the Great Depression and Dust Bowl.

        Sorry…but our history books prove there have been not just recounts but elections overturned for fraud on a state level. Not on the presidential level. ONLY because no President billionaire asshole has EVER dared to try to rig the election until BUSH did in 2000 and 2004. Remember Tootsie? It took the Supreme Court to declare him a winner? Or did you rewrite that history already?

        Malcontents? You mean like the BS artists in the south and midwest who have been “malcontented” ripping Hillary apart and then you put a president in who lies more than 100 times in his debates? Good work dipshit.

        1. Brenda says

          Article II. Section 1. explains how electors are counted, but basically the number of electors are to equal the would number of Senators and Representatives. And since the number of Senators remains at two, the number of Representatives can be increased based on population growth.
          I’m sorry, but in my version of history the South did indeed loose the Civil War. The Great Depression affected the whole country not just one specific area. And the Dust Bowl affected the middle of the country.
          Sorry, but can you name one Presidential election that was overturned for fraud on a state level? Bush won the 2000 election on the Electoral College count, he lost on the popular vote and it took the Supreme Court to declare him President.
          No, Eleanore, I mean malcontents like you that can only use derogatory terms when making comments because you basically have no argument to defend your anger and hatred.
          And by the way, I do not live in the South, you only assumed so because I did not go along with your rant. But, I have lived in the South, in fact I lived in Arkansas during the Clinton governorship, so I think I am a little more knowledgeable on the Clinton history.

          1. ABO says

            Again, excellent, well researched, truthful response to one who has absolutely no use for the truth whatsoever. You are far too intelligent, well read and thoughtful to be wasting your time responding to a vile, hateful troll like Eleanore Whitaker. Still, thank you yet again for your great words. Your input here is well respected and appreciated.

          2. Brenda says

            Thank you. But my responses are but my small effort to keep the truth out there with the hope that some will learn. .

        2. Norman says

          Oh, Eleanore, I explained to you a few weeks ago why Texas has such an increase in electoral votes but you have forgotten already.

          You see, Texas electoral votes are primarily based on population just as with all the other states. Since Texas is a border state with Mexico, Texas has had an invasion of illegal aliens from Mexico. Those illegal aliens count as population during the census. That means Texas has some additional electoral votes. When Trump won Texas, he won ALL of the electoral votes of Texas.

          That is how illegal aliens helped Trump to win the electoral vote. You should go to Texas and tell all of those nasty illegal aliens to leave because it was all their faults that hilLIARy LOST THE ELECTION!

      3. mallen11 says

        Brenda, great post and totally true. Liberal democrats will never understand your thoughts for they can’t reason logically nor do they want to since they expect the government to take care of their lives and they call it “good” when it is evil. It is in their DNA. Their arrogant, self-righteous know-it-all attitude has been smacked right in their face and their hate and name calling will continue since they know nothing else to do for their life if filled with darkness instead of light. Jesus Christ is in control of history and He has given our Nation another chance to turn back to Him.

      4. ABO says

        Excellent response Brenda. Well stated and absolutely accurate. Unfortunately Eleanor Whitaker is well established here as a vile, hateful and utterly myopic troll and will seriously consider absolutely none of it. Liberal lemming from the gitgo. She fits the definition of the term ‘Bigot’ perfectly and puts that character trait to use incessantly.

    2. disqus_2HJyL9vcD3 says

      The EC did exactly what it’s supposed to do, keep the likes of hrc OUT of the Oval Office. It is compensation for the fact there are more city rats than country mice!

    3. Norman says

      It would take 19 electors to switch their votes to give hilLIARy an electoral victory. That ain’t gonna happen, Eleanore.

      Just accept that hilLIARy LOST THE ELECTION!

  12. Combatvet52 says

    Two words the Media Sucks.

  13. RMorrow says

    The Lord pointed something out to me today. Everyone is saying that the Liberals are doubling down on their stupidity. The Lord says no they are not. The Lord says the Liberals are doubling down on their evils. For they have no where else to go. But, to double their evils. That is how evil the Liberals truly are.

    1. JJ says

      They really and truly are!

  14. Garry A DeManty says

    If Hillary had one the liberal media would have treated her like a God just like Obama .

    1. Mathew Molk says

      And they didn’t during the election?

  15. Luberker says

    YES it would have been a non-issue because Billery would have shut the internet down. According to Drudge, he was told by someone in the Supreme Court earlier this year, shutting down websites like his had long been planned & ready to implement. Drudge mentioned he was ready to close his website.

  16. Mathew Molk says

    There has been a ton of fake news since Walter Krankite lied and convinced the American people that we lost the ’68 Tet offensive but it escalated steadily since then. Now there is NOTHING but 1/2 truths and total BS on the so called Main Stream media.

  17. jjmcl431 says

    if Hillary had won the news and history would be written and constantly changed to suit the ruling Democratic Party’s current line, just like the way it was done in Orwell’s book “1984”.

  18. buddman says

    If hilbilly won we would be preparing for a civil war to overthrow the Demonrats

    1. Norman says

      No, if hilLIARy had won, the radicals would have been emboldened to start a civil war against us the same as obama emboldened the Occupoopers, ACORN, SEIU, and BLM to RIOT.

      Don’t forget it was the radicals, NOT us, who were supporting the election RIOTS last month.

  19. Mike W says

    The reason the never showed the crowds at the rallies is Hillary really didn’t have any. The media tried to fool everyone with how well Hillary was doing when it was far from the truth. As it is, if you look at any map of the U.S. that depicts the states that do and do not require ID to vote and then look at any map that depicts the 2016 election results. It is interesting to note that except for Virginia Hillary really only won in states that DO NOT require ID or photo ID. Hillary RIGGED the nomination, had the questions to the debates fed to her in advance and only won in states that do not require ID. Now this pathetic wretch claims SHE was cheated? I hope her 2020 campaign song will be “Still Doin’ Time”.

  20. Mathew Molk says

    Just one final thing,,,,,Check the BS tabloid type ads in of all these sites. Talk about fake news. “The root of all stomach problems” “Fruit that “Destroys” diabetes” “The way Elvis looks now is SHOCKING!”. The height of mindless drivel that truly belongs on the mindless liberal sites and not here.

    And ,,,PC IS DEAD (no more “happy Holiday crap” )

    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL (witch starts the afternoon of Jan 20th!)

    1. KKmoderate says

      Nice Post!!!!!!

    2. Norman says

      Don’t forget to wish muslims “Merry Christmas” also.

      1. JJ says

        Lol lol

  21. daveveselenak says

    It’s way, way more than a liberal slant, it is a insidious communist push!

  22. billyrb1 says

    The American voters are a lot smarter than this online site gives them credit for. American voters knew Hillary was a lying conniving individual than has done nothing but hurt the Unite States throughout her life in order to make money.
    Such as believing in Saul Alensky and his hatred for this country and naming him her favorite person she’d like emulate.
    Also, being the type of person laughing and crowing about getting a child rapist set free while she worked for the law firm that her daughter Chelsea father worked for.
    No, Killery was simply the worst person that the Democrats could have chosen to run for president.

    1. KKmoderate says

      So… lucky for us they did run her:) We won, they lost. Oh well!!

  23. Jean Langford M. says


  24. ONLYJB1 says

    Have you ever noticed? Democommies always blame others for the actual things THEY do. FAKE news? We have been indoctrinated with fake news for the past 8 years. As the truth will slowly begin to leak out, we will see and we will be ashamed. How does a nation explain having an illegal government for the last 8 years. Everything obama and his administration has done is moot! Fortunately all of this fake news we are getting today is something this nation has been missing. T R U T H ! The propaganda and disinformation ends now!

    1. James says

      Speaking of sore loser, snowflake lib Dumbocraps…

    2. KKmoderate says

      Don’t even circulate this kind of BS. It should be an honor to be named “Person of the Year” not mocked!
      Ludicrous as it was Obama received a Nobel Prize in Norway after less than a year in office. Europe got their presidential pick and we, Americans, were astonished that he was lauded in such a way. Undeserving in 2009 and still undeserving for a “Peace Prize” in 2016.
      Trump, on the other hand, pulled off a political coup and he is justifiably being recognized for it.

  25. Joyce White says

    I know that the news is so biased. (even those who claim to be honest and unbiased). It is difficult to be totally unbiased. Even two people reading the same article will mentally interpret it differently.So it is best to read them all, and decide, for yourself ,the points which are very close in meaning and those which are miles apart. Generally the most extreme point is the biased one. (the ones which go for the ‘shock value’) Shock and outrage are a good thing, but when a reporter bashes someone for their hair color or points out things which are not pertinent to the article, it is meant to draw your mind away from the main reporting which is probably not quite true. Sometimes the little aside comments are the spoonful of sugar that helps you swallow a ‘rotten’ report. Read them all. I believe Ben Franklin (et al) said “Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see” It seems he was acquainted with the news media

  26. donl says

    IF killary had won we would be Socialists.

  27. Bruce Kellar says

    The nation needs to be cleansed of these hateful leftists hellbent on destruction and tyranny. Their hippie heritage is moldy and should be replaced by folks with common sense and ability to absorb information gleaned from others besides the MSM. In short, the Soros leftist hippie’s stink and need to be cleansed.

  28. Tiger says

    We have had Fake news since O entered office. We know this because Wikileaks proved it. Also many in the news have said it and quit and written books about it. Of course they have no access to Trump he goes straight to the people and will continue to do so they had to do something. So they tell their zombies that there is no truth in anything they read all made up. They have an app out now that supposedly will tell them where this fake news is and guess what? All Conservative sites, what is new, nothing except now they are in panic mode.

    Going to get worse and worse and they are saying Trump won’t be inaugurated so suppose they are planning an assassination. Tell you guys something else the latest recounts in Michigan are showing massive voter fraud, for the Democrats. They should have been more careful what they wished for.

  29. cdansreau says

    we would have seen fake news without restraint. perhaps some readers may not recall a hitler propaganda effort that showed hitler doing a folk dance. it was a film clip that actually showed hitler raising his leg and then slamming it down. they edited the film and showed this action repeatedly for several minutes, released the film and announced that hitler was also an accomplished folk dancer as well as a wonderful leader. there has been a literary effort to portray hillary as a compassionate defender of womens rights. i can point to bill’s victims to say this is not so. But if hillary had won this would have escalated to absurd levels

  30. John Williams says

    “They just don’t have the courage to admit it.” I strongly disagree, they don’t have the BRAINS to admit it, witness the very same people who have been telling us for close to a year that, Trump could not win the primary, no one could beat clinton, the polls all said clinton was a shoe in, Trump did not have any chance to win the presidency, it was going to be a landslide for clinton, all the talking heads said so and on and on ad nauseam. They have doubled down on the very things that helped elect Trump, thus my thought on lack of brains. It would seem to me that after bening proven to be so far wrong that there is zero credibility with these people. They are going to find someway to beat Trump for EVERY move he makes, Trump is not even in office yet and he has already accomplished more than team obama has done in 8 years. Trump will have an uphill battle, because of all the damage that has been done since obama took office, remember just how bad that team obama has been telling us things were when he took office, it was bush’s fault for eight years, well things are much worse today than they were 8 years ago. The great economy that obama claims to have given us, it is a freaking house of cards, the unemployment rate is a lie and the useful idiots are too stupid to see it.

  31. Laddyboy says

    IF Hilliary won, America would not have any “fake news”.
    ALL the news would be PROPAGANDA for the “one world government” that has been being PUSHED since about 1929 by the DemocRATs and the RINOs.
    Shades of the book by George Orwell called: “1984” printed in 1949.

  32. desert fox says

    They are still doing the negative on Trump. I like that he has cut the media out of his announcements. Have they found anything positive about the men he has named to his administration. Today they did an account of the dollars these men have…..I’d rather have a billionaire handling my country’s money than some poor schmuck the media boys would tell America how great they were coming up from nothing and still having nothing. These readers on television (I wouldn’t glorify them by calling them reporters) will continue in the demoncratic mindet to praise the loser for her failed efforts in everything she has done.

  33. CUZIN ERN says


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  35. Deplorable Lanie says

    Oh No Say it Ain’t So! We was fooled by all the fake news, oh no! See it is exactly the opposite, we weren’t fooled by the main stream media and all their fake news saying how great HilLIARy was and how horrible President Elect Trump was. But we were not fooled by the main stream media telling us that DJT could not win. We didn’t fall for it, We came out and we voted for the candidate we wanted, not the one the media told us to want.And despite all the manipulation of the media and the voters, we said NO MORE. We want President Elect Trump and we won! Now by the good little DemocRATs that you are, and go away!!!!

  36. Tiger says

    Oh wow they found O’s baby pictures but shouldn’t that face have been on the horses ass?

  37. Edna Ethel says

    Fake news has been at the forefront of MSNBC, CNN, ABC, and CBS for a long time. Brian Williams and his disgraceful and disgusting lies were only the tip of the iceberg. Hell, we saw much worse from Clinton herself in terms of lies and fake news. However, this article sums up the situation wonderfully: the average Americans have “caught on” and no longer believe the propaganda merchants from the major networks. They are all suddenly irrelevant, and that is a very positive thing.

    1. ABO says

      Williams was on MSNBC this morning condemning ‘any journalist who would stoop to lies for political gain’ as part of a story supporting HRC’s little diatribe on ‘fake news’. How pathetic is that???

  38. Lisa4USA says

    James O’Keefe should have been mentioned as well as InfoWars. Millions of people got the real scoop from these people as well as the Enquirer, even tho I just check out the covers which are often salacious, but in the end they are accurate because they wouldn’t exist if there was no truth to their news stories.

  39. lancellotti_857@msn.com says

    I still don’t know why she isn’t in handcuffs. The woman is a crook.

  40. Terry Lee says

    8 years of Obama and noone had a problem with the fake news sites of The Colbert report and The Daily Show which were staunchly in Obama’s corner. This is rampant liberal hypocrisy. Just call it what it is.

  41. TeaPartyPatriot says

    the NaNa in the orange Pjs is the epitome of fake news from the dodging of sniper bullet to the cause of the benghazi killings to the vast right wing conspiracy.

    Ever see a pig without lipstick ? ? ? ?


  42. junkmailbin says

    the moaning about russian hacking emeails would not be a big deal if the clintons and freinds were not such a huge group of lying arses

  43. RsGoat says

    Dosen’t that depend on what we call fake news? How many Senator’s like Harry Reid told the public that there was nothing to see in any Benghazi reports so the Leftward fallen media ignored it would his claim be fake news as more people came forward to talk about how the “video tape” had nothing to do with the attack? Is the representing comedey news as part of the fake news phenomena part of the fake news?

  44. Theresa Petruzzi says

    If Hillary had connected with ” everyday people ” which she can’t ( only with people with big $) she might have had a chance. Now she is going to have a big bash for her large donors. gee! She still hasn’t learned anything. It’s all about the $$$

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