If PETA Ran the World

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Liberals and animal extremists got a bee in their collective bonnet this week when Sarah Palin posted a picture of her son standing on his service dog to reach the kitchen sink. The dog – a black Labrador that acts as a service animal for Trig, who is afflicted with Down Syndrome – was obviously unhurt, but that didn’t stop the screamers from screaming. Leading the fray was the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), labeling the conservative a “bizarrely callous woman.”

This, of course, is not the first time PETA has made themselves look ridiculous. In fact, the vast majority of Americans regard the organization as the joke that it is. They don’t limit their attacks to conservatives; many will remember the flack President Obama received in 2009 when he dared to swat a fly on national television. PETA sent him a device meant to catch flies “humanely,” so that they can be returned to the wild. Even the most ardent Obama haters rolled their eyes.

Danger Lurking Beneath the Idiocy

But PETA is more dangerous than you might think. They make their occasional foray into the mainstream when they see a story they can exploit, but they do their craziest work outside the spotlight. What many people don’t know about is their tireless commitment to killing the very animals they are ostensibly trying to save. While they raise the roof about one 6-year-old standing on a dog, they have killed more than 19,000 dogs and cats since 1998. According to most resources, PETA puts to death 90 percent of the animals they take in.

If PETA ran the world, of course, there would be no such thing as “pets.” Millions of dogs, cats, pigs, birds, and other commonly-owned household pets would be liberated under PETA’s rule, left to fend for themselves in the harsh wild. Several times, PETA’s spokespeople have argued in favor of “total animal liberation.” If they had their way, zoos would become a thing of the past, fur would be gone, leather would be obsolete, and there would be no more meat, cheese, eggs, milk, or honey. What a world!

The human race could survive without all of those things, even if it would make life a little worse. Where PETA is at its most dangerous, though, is also where its arguments are most effective. Even people who are normally sensible can be swayed by propaganda against medical research. But without animal research, medical progress against some of humanity’s most prescient health threats would come to an end. Without animal testing, we would live in a world without many of our best surgical procedures, without vaccines, and without the medications that have given us the extraordinary jump in life span we’ve experienced over the last hundred years.

When PETA raises a stink about something as stupid as Palin’s photo, people just shake their heads and laugh. But when you do, remember that PETA’s aims are destructive and dangerous to the human race. It’s laudable to care about the “ethical treatment of animals,” but we must never compromise the future of humanity for the sake of appeasing the lunatic left.

337 Comments
  1. Keith Brockmiller says

    PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals…. 😉

    1. baiji says

      Selfish people, with no compassion for other living beings.

      1. Peter Sherman says

        we are in the belly of the beast… its not a random sampling of the population who are responding to this. so… don’t loose too much heart. but, that said, we are a brutal species.

        1. hoss50cal says

          your right about that the best thing that could happen for this planet would be for us to wipe each other out. and the way we’re going we probably will

          1. sniperbait66 says

            @hoss50cal: Screw you and your vision of mankind. Geez, you must be a lonely turd…Without Humankind, the Planet is NOTHING but a hunk of rock filled with animals KILLING each other for FOOD. Gee, what’s so ‘abnormal’ about that? The Freaks think that all the animals would just join together, sing Koombiya songs and eat…What? Dirt? Yeah, I thought so.

          2. hoss50cal says

            Screw yourself sniperbait66
            and no I’m not lonely at all. I have friends and they know the same thing I
            do that all we do is continue to destroy this planet. The human race is not
            smart enough to take care of what we have and the planet would be better off without us. All you have to do is look at our
            history. We don’t get better. We just continue to make things worse. It’s our
            nature. We continue to burn through our resources and poison our planet to the
            point we can’t fix it. And of course the animals are going to killing each
            other. That’s what they’re here for. That’s why we eat them. There’s nothing
            wrong with that.

          3. Peter Sherman says

            interesting comment. for my living… i go to natural places where there are very few, if any, people (those that are there are indigenous folks (in other countries)). when i return to the cities of this country, I am astounded at all the people walking around AS IF the artificial realities of their urban concrete existence ARE SOMEHOW real. When i return to the cities after having spent extended time in nature… i mean real nature… life and death and hiding and running and playing and soaring etc. etc…. the stark difference between nature (read here as “no humans”) and the urban and suburban scenes of this nation… boggle the mind. boggle my mind at least. in short, there is nothing lonely… nothing unremarkable, nothing sinister or lonely or hypocritical or even ironic in the rainforests where i work. its life. its spectacular and sometimes intimidating and always fascinating… and very much alive. life without humans, to my experienced estimation, is everything…its not nothing. humans are just a bonus (or a plague) depending… we are just part of life but have recently filed for divorce from it… to our ultimate regret i’ll bet. and that dirt you mention… millions of organisms per square foot. get out into it… with a mind to see what’s there… it might be inspirational. (I say this with no disrespect intended.)

          4. johnwes says

            Were you born an idiot or did the doctor drop you on your head?

          5. mac12sam12 says

            He’s been swimming in Lake Smirnoff.

          6. CATMAN says

            Someone here doesn’t recognize sarcasm when they see it do they ???

          7. Becky says

            Catman didn’t strike me as sarcasm at all.

          8. hoss50cal says

            were you born a jackass?

          9. mac12sam12 says

            You first, and then we will consider, I’ll help you!

          10. OldPatriot32 says

            At the rate things are going in the world, your prediction may one day come true, but don’t hold your breath! How’s your meat & dairy diet these days? Oh, wait….

          11. hoss50cal says

            Meats fine, I just wish I could get more of it from the wild

        2. sniperbait66 says

          We fought to SURVIVE. Today, we WILL have to fight for our survival once more…Or die at the hands of those like the PETA psychos, and they are Legion…

          1. baiji says

            FYI:

            Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
            An all-creatures Bible Message

            Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

            A Sermon Delivered to
            The Compassion Internet Church

            4 January 2015

            Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

            Scripture References

            Psalm 72:8-20
            Proverbs 12:10
            Isaiah 60:1-6

            Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

            This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

            We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

            And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

            As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

            God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

            God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

            God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

            God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

            God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

            God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

            And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

            The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

            But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

            10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
            But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
            NASB

            Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

            After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

            People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

            Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

            8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
            And from the River to the ends of the earth.

            Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

            And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

            9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
            And his enemies lick the dust.

            10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
            The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

            11. And let all kings bow down before him,
            All nations serve him.

            All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

            12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
            The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

            No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

            13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
            And the lives of the needy he will save.

            14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
            And their blood will be precious in his sight;

            It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

            And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

            15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
            And let them pray for him continually;
            Let them bless him all day long.

            This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

            16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
            Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
            And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

            17. May his name endure forever;
            May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
            And let men bless themselves by him;
            Let all nations call him blessed.

            We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

            18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
            Who alone works wonders.

            19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
            And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
            Amen, and Amen.

            20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
            NASB

            But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

            With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

            1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
            And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

            This is the way Jesus appears.

            This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

            It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

            They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

            2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
            And deep darkness the peoples;
            But the LORD will rise upon you,
            And His glory will appear upon you.

            Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

            3. “And nations will come to your light,
            And kings to the brightness of your rising.

            We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

            4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
            They all gather together, they come to you.
            Your sons will come from afar,
            And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

            If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

            And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

            5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
            And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
            Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
            The wealth of the nations will come to you.

            6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
            The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
            All those from Sheba will come;
            They will bring gold and frankincense,
            And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
            NASB

            In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

            We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

            We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

            We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

            We can!

            We must!

            Amen?

            Amen.

          2. Peter Sherman says

            howdy sniperbait. given all the risks out there… from radical fundamentalist religious folks who want to kill basically everything to changing climate and all that might mean for us (whether or not we caused it) to the US chemical companies treating us like labrats with an “innocent until proven guilty” approach to introducing new chemicals into our societies to drug cartels to growing problems with drugs among young folks etc. etc. etc. do you truly rank PETA right up there near the top?

          3. baiji says

            Very good point Peter.

        3. baiji says

          Thank you Peter. I understand that but this is important to me, and is an important issue. I have done some searching and found an excellent article that covers it, if you believe in God, which I do. For other believers, here it is, for non-believers, that is another issue.

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
          An all-creatures Bible Message

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

          A Sermon Delivered to
          The Compassion Internet Church

          4 January 2015

          Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

          Scripture References

          Psalm 72:8-20
          Proverbs 12:10
          Isaiah 60:1-6

          Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

          This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

          We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

          And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

          As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

          God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

          God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

          God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

          God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

          God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

          God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

          And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

          The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

          But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

          10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
          But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
          NASB

          Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

          After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

          People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

          Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

          8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
          And from the River to the ends of the earth.

          Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

          And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

          9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
          And his enemies lick the dust.

          10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
          The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

          11. And let all kings bow down before him,
          All nations serve him.

          All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

          12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
          The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

          No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

          13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
          And the lives of the needy he will save.

          14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
          And their blood will be precious in his sight;

          It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

          And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

          15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
          And let them pray for him continually;
          Let them bless him all day long.

          This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

          16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
          Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
          And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

          17. May his name endure forever;
          May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
          And let men bless themselves by him;
          Let all nations call him blessed.

          We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

          18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
          Who alone works wonders.

          19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
          And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
          Amen, and Amen.

          20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
          NASB

          But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

          With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

          1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
          And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

          This is the way Jesus appears.

          This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

          It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

          They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

          2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
          And deep darkness the peoples;
          But the LORD will rise upon you,
          And His glory will appear upon you.

          Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

          3. “And nations will come to your light,
          And kings to the brightness of your rising.

          We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

          4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
          They all gather together, they come to you.
          Your sons will come from afar,
          And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

          If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

          And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

          5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
          And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
          Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
          The wealth of the nations will come to you.

          6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
          The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
          All those from Sheba will come;
          They will bring gold and frankincense,
          And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
          NASB

          In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

          We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

          We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

          We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

          We can!

          We must!

          Amen?

          Amen.

      2. Keith Brockmiller says

        Did you read the article? “According to most resources, PETA puts to death 90 percent of the animals they take in.”
        So you don’t use ANY cosmetics, or medications? You don’t drive?
        You know God put those creatures here for us to survive on. It is an affront to Him to deny His will. Other animals, such as Trig’s service dog, do so willingly, even happily. If Sarah opened the door and offered the dog his freedom, he would go curl up at Trigs feet. Does that sound like suffering?

        Get a life, and mind your own business. You freaking hippocrates, are pretty much all the same, worried about everyone else, when the biggest problem is in the mirror.

        1. Marcia Mueller says

          The animals they take in, which most other shelters won’t take because they are sick or injured, are beyond help. They have been neglected, hit by cars, etc., etc. If people don’t like the fact that PETA is doing the work that other places won’t, then I guess you just like the idea of letting animals suffer and die without help.

          1. Keith Brockmiller says

            And the rest of my post?

          2. patriotdaddy says

            ur an idiot!! aside from those helpless cases you just named….they also kill any animal that has been with them after 90 days!!! HEALTHY OR NOT!! due to the cost of sheltering them, and feeding them…..so get ur head outta ur ass and face the music!!

          3. GowithGod says

            Here’s how PETA “takes care of animals:”

            https://www.petakillsanimals.com/

      3. Michael Gentry says

        Are lions selfish when they kill animals in the wild?

        What about black widow spiders… where the female eats the male after consummation?

        Just a for a couple of quick examples…

        1. Marcia Mueller says

          Lions have a choice. Are you saying that people are genetically programmed to kill? Then you really must believe in evolution.

          1. Michael Gentry says

            I’m saying that humans are genetically programmed to eat food…. and humans are genetically programmed to be carnivores.

            Mike

          2. Peter Sherman says

            correction mike. we are omnivores. our teeth and digestive system reveal that. so, yes, we have meat on our evolutionary menu (and some would say that its on our religious-inspired menu) but we are omnivores. all the anthropological work done recently also reveals that the older notion of “hunter-gatherer” was actually backwards. we were gatherer-hunters in terms of hours spent, calories taken averaged over a year etc. so, we are basically vegetarians who eat meat opportunistically. now, with the invention of the grocery store and the meat section… opportunity knocks all the time.

          3. patriotdaddy says

            you are wrong sir!!! we are carnivores as our “incisors” prove without a doubt!!! as well as our molars for grinding…as you do not need sharp teeth or grinding for plant matter…….nice try tho!

          4. Peter Sherman says

            you were sleeping that day in 7th grad bio class. incisors (the teeth that make rodents effective vegetarians) are super sharp (beavers cutting trees, squirrels working through tough seed coats) and molars (the teeth that make ungulates great herbivores) are most pronounced in horses, elephants, rhinos etc and are the grinding teeth that allow them to break down tough plant material.

            I’ll just say this knowing that it sounds nasty but i really don’t mean it that way. i mean it in a head-scratching sort of way… as in i am confused. if someone WANTS to educate themselves on such basic topics, one CAN simply look this stuff up. it so available. if you want to know that most black bears are omnivores with a mostly vegetarian diet; if you want to know how dentition and diet match up in the mammal world etc. all you have to do is look it up.

            Remaining ignorant on a given topic… such as these or topics far more important such as climate disruption… is a CHOICE! I am surprised that our society so regularly CHOOSES to remain ignorant on topics that are so important. Jared Diamond’s book Collapse (about why societies choose to fail) reveals that perhaps our CHOICE to be self destructive (i.e., ignorant of our surroundings) is a human nature… seems we are not the first generation / civilization to fail because of willful ignorance.

            good luck to us all.

          5. Marcia Mueller says

            Actually, people are pretty much omnivores. As they spread around the globe much of the time they had to take advantage of what the environment offered. Thus, environment and developing cultural attitudes toward food played and continue to play a big part in dietary choice. As you can see from these comments, many arguments are quite heated when it comes to deviating from chosen food. However, people did very well on diets that were largely, even mostly vegetable. The ancient Mexicans, known most from the Aztec and Maya groups, ate a very healthy diet of corn, tomatoes, chili, a variety of other veggies, and they got to chocolate and vanilla before us! So people can do very well on the diet that is based on plant proteins, which are getting more varied and sophisticated in preparation. For the morally motivated and health conscious vegan, the new foods are great.

          6. TrueAmerican says

            Ummmm Azrec people? Where are they? I believe they have all died from disease brought on due to lack of crappy diet. CORN is a sugary filler no real dietary use in the human body. And if you look at most Vegans they are pasty white and frail. I dont want to have to depend on a Vegan as a fighting buddy

          7. patriotdaddy says

            you are uneducated!!!! this is false!!! every region has their own way of feeding their people……….none of them are wrong, and those that judge others for their ways of life are PIGS and selfish to say the least!!!! and none of this has anything to do with the murdering and lying PETA!!! i suggest you end your life soon if u think you will ever see meat gone from human consumption…cuz that is the only way you will EVER see that!! some people will tell all kinds of lies to make a point….but then ur point becomes non- valid, don’t it?! lol

          8. Marcia Mueller says

            Me uneducated? Did you read what you wrote? Maybe if you had the education, the cognitive skills, and the linguistic ability you would understand more and express yourself better than in calling names. Your kind of rant is the last resort of the angry and inarticulate.

          9. festmatt5440 says

            Oh ; you ‘re so ” ed -yu – muck -kate – ted ” , its too bad the your brain does not function properly .

          10. Marcia Mueller says

            Unless you can do better than that, you should not be commenting. Mockery only works when it is clever and well written.

          11. patriotdaddy says

            then why are you still commenting, PIG!?!? you are not clever or witty……and you are making a mockery of yourself repeatedly with nothing but insults toward everybody t hat disagrees with you (especially those with evidence to counter your opinions…..who is the idiot here?! lol liberals will be the next terrorist organization on our list…….i am already in the process of admitting the paperwork to the courts…..after my lawsuit against liberals…….they will NEVER be allowed here again!!!! all will be put on a wanted list like the POS moslems….you are no better……..if you read our requirements for labeling someone a terrorist….you will see that everything in that list is what libs attempted the last 2 years………time for them to go down!! PETA with them!! as the entire PETA organization is liberal!! good luck with your mindless whining and rhetoric nonsense …..marcia

          12. patriotdaddy says

            u retarded hag!!! you have done nothing but troll theis whole thread…with absolutely no evidence and all opinion……you are the uneducated C*NT that has a problem with being wrong……..obviously a fucking liberal democratic POS troll……don’t you have some ethnic folks to go oppress?!!?

          13. festmatt5440 says

            Vegetables and fruit ‘ ;do not have nearly the nutritional value as meat ‘ .

          14. patriotdaddy says

            evolution is truth regardless of your beliefs!!

      4. Mark says

        Go to the forest, whine to the animals therein, and see how much attention you get.

        1. Jarhead says

          Start with huge Black Bears that are hungry.

          1. Peter Sherman says

            black bears are mainly vegetarian… so not to worry. grizzlies… now that’s another story.

          2. Jarhead says

            Is that what you told the couple that were eaten & killed in Idaho by a bear they had “Befriended”? Better keep you dreams to yourself peter and save lives?

          3. patriotdaddy says

            another false statement lol…you are obviously a fabricator dude!! @disqus_ScKdPvgq6S:disqus again……i lived around bears my whole life…regardless what the gov’t wants you to believe…….black bears eat meat, and also hunt humans when they are starving…they have attacked MANY households in their region, and continue today!!! “black bears are mainly vegetarian” lmao funny shit

          4. Peter Sherman says

            you are wrong about that. while they will opportunistically eat meat (ground squirrels, insects, grubs etc.) if we consider eating meat to be limited to mammals/birds/lizards etc (leaving insects and such out of the picture) they take in more calories from veg and insect than they do from meat. of course there are the occasional outliers that eat more meat… but they are omnivores with a primarily veg and grub/worm etc. diet. and the government has nothing to do with anything related to this Black Bear conversation… i don’t look to the jaded government for my biological science information. if you do or assume that others like me do… then there’s our problem.

          5. patriotdaddy says

            lmao…..explain that to all the people that live around black bears….stop listening to the gov’t books you read in class idiot!! lol

          6. hoss50cal says

            You don’t know what your talking about Peter they also eat deer, elk, dogs, cats and if there is nothing else a person. There are more & more attacks from Black bears every year but that’s our fault most of the time or is out of hunger.

          7. Peter Sherman says

            yes, of course you are correct. here’s an analogy. I am, let’s say, vegetarian for the most part. But from time to time i sneak a burger. The majority of my calories are from plants but i do have meat in my annual diet. Bears are mostly similar. They will eat all those things (some black bears) when the opportunity knocks. but if you look at their caloric budget over a year’s time, most of a black bear’s calories tend to come from less dramatic things like grubs and berries etc. of course, the location makes a big difference… so these comments (yours and mine) are just approximations. Here is a reputable site that explains that about 90% of their diet is plant. Most of the rest is small stuff… and, then, opportunistically, they will eat from carcasses and occasionally hunt bigger game. This is from State University of New York’s College of Environmental Science and Forestry (no slackers). The guy above who suggested my sources might be government based… is lost in the woods of politics himself to imagine such a thing. hope this is informative for you. takes a few seconds to learn a lot about bears at this site. take care.

            http://www.esf.edu/aec/adks/mammals/black_bear.htm

          8. Peter Sherman says

            last thought. what i find most amazing about the folks writing on this site is that they are writing from their emotional sides of the brains and not their intellectual sides. there is a LOT of reputable information available to all these folks and yet, for reasons that befuddle me, they CHOOSE NOT to inform themselves. They are perfectly content to remain ignorant about a subject and then talk about it without having any idea about how much they don’t know. normally, that sort of thing doesn’t trouble me but these folks vote!! that scares me. I don’t care if folks know or don’t know what bears eat… but when it comes to more potentially problematic issues like climate change… then their choice to remain ignorant can be really troublesome. the mayans knew nearly everything about the celestial cycles but couldn’t care less about the drought cycles. that turned out to be a bad choice for them… and their civilization collapsed because of their choice to remain ignorant about something they thought was trivial but turned out to be life/death. climate science is our generations choice.

        2. baiji says

          What does that mean?

          1. Jarhead says

            It is obvious (to normal persons) that WILD animals might “go wild” and eat you.
            Trusting a grizzly bear to stay friendly is like asking a radical muslim, demonicRAT, RINO, LGBTQ follower, Nazi lover, communist member, etc., to think STRAIGHT ?

          2. baiji says

            If one respects wild animals, and gives them their space, there should be no problem. That is the problem these days, many do not respect and appreciate wild animals, and in many cases, domestic ones too.

          3. Peter Sherman says

            i appreciate your views and compassion. while we don’t share believes… you clearly are a deeper thinker than many. keep on posting… a breath of fresh air.

          4. baiji says

            Thank you. I don’t have all the answers. I just would like to see more peace and compassion in the world, for people, animals and mother earth.

          5. Marcia Mueller says

            No one has all the answers, baiji. But some of us are just trying to progress to a better world and planet for all the beings involved. Thank you for your comments.

          6. patriotdaddy says

            start with your world leaders!!!

          7. baiji says

            I do that. I sign petitions directed to them.

          8. patriotdaddy says

            we learn by example…so if our government does not respect our space, show us appreciation, and tend to our NEEDS (not their own)…then maybe the human race would think like that…but as a group…….as a community, as a whole region of people…we will blindly follow the politically correct…..with that said…..turn to your government with your issues and if they change…the people will gradually change with them!!! but…you are screwed!!! you could never get the government to answer to the true needs of their people!!! it goes against their agendas!!!

          9. baiji says

            I cannot blindly follow what I do not agree with. That is why I join organizations who are fighting injustices, i.e. David Suzuki Foundation, Greenpeace, Sea Shepherd, Grey2K USA (fighting cruel greyhound racing). That is the good thing about democracy, we have a voice. If enough people speak up and speak out, they will have to listen to us. There is power in numbers.

          10. Marcia Mueller says

            If people go into the wilderness they might possibly run into wild animals. Duh! They are in the animals’ territory. If a few people get eaten by grizzlies,we can only hope they don’t make the bears sick. Otherwise, we should take our changes and quit whining.

      5. Mike Sidman says

        “Vegetarian” Native American word for “Lousy Hunter” or “Lazy Fisher”

        1. Marcia Mueller says

          And hunter was the name of what was left after the bison stampeded.

          1. patriotdaddy says

            and then we moved onto cows….so what?! hunters will FOREVER be the remaining creatures on this planet!!! in the end…we are ALL hunters…..it is in our nature, in our blood, in our DNA, and most of all……it is the way GOD intended it!!!! get over it, or move to another country pig!

          2. Marcia Mueller says

            There are unfortunate specimens like you in every country who want their own way and say God intended the mayhem. So you guys here just declare jihad on wolves and other animals. Don’t know what we can do about the rage of men who feel left out and unsuccessful.

          3. festmatt5440 says

            Quit proving your , ‘ stu – pi – dity “.

          4. Marcia Mueller says

            Geez, you had to look that up in a dictionary to spell it. Next thing you’ll be writing in full sentences.

          5. Marcia Mueller says

            Shoot, I gave you too much credit. That should be ” stu-pid-i-ty”. Your use of quotation marks is also wrong.

          6. patriotdaddy says

            your use of that retarded brain is ALSO wrong!!! LOL……you have spoke with absolutely no sources, no hard proof, and no respect for your fellow man…..time for you to stfu…..oh yeah……your spelling errors are no different than any1 elses PIG!! t his is a forum/comment thread…..EVERYONE abbreviates or uses shorthand in some form….if u dont like it, t hen do not join the thread, PIG!!

          7. patriotdaddy says

            your ignorance far outweighs your stupidity!!! you are the prime example of what you just claimed of me in that statement idiot!!! you cannot have it YOUR WAY!! and you have no physical proof to support your retarded opinions!!! at least we are citing sources and solidifying our claims……where is yours?!??!?!?! moron!!

          8. patriotdaddy says

            and another thin marcia……i do not declare jihad ever….i am no moslem, and no liberal….that is your place…..you are assisting in the take over of this country into evil hands with your stupid save the animals crap!!!! we all love animals, but they will never be more important than humans and food consumption!!! get over it, or kill yourself!! your choice!!

          9. Marcia Mueller says

            Where are your sources that solidify your claims? I have not seen the titles, authors, dates of any scientific, biological, or ecological journals that present research on what God intended (which you could not find in any scientific journal, of course), on what exactly what characteristics of human nature are invariable in every time and place, on our ability to learn and change as circumstances change, or on the DNA that we share with other life on this earth and what that should tell us.

            I used the word “jihad” on wolves because some people (and I don’t know if you are one or not) seem to hate wolves so much they want them destroyed with as much anger as Islamic warriors go after their enemies.

            I don’t choose to kill myself. I have too much fighting for animals to do. Sorry about that.

          10. GowithGod says

            You seem to have bought into media/marketing myths.

            Perhaps you want to revisit your premises.

            A good place to start would be a search on “animal rights vs animal welfare.” And check out Peter Singer, who is the “bwain” behind PETA.

            Good luck to you.

      6. James Maxwell says

        Well by golly gosh, a person who life off of air. Plants have feelings also and it
        hurts them when you rip then out of the ground or off a bush and eat them. I

        would be curious as to what you survive on? Sure not plants, Animals, Fish

        or Fowl either. Must be amazing to see you also walk on water.

        1. Marcia Mueller says

          As Konrad Lorenz once said, anyone who couldn’t tell the difference between an animal and a vegetable should commit suicide for the good of humanity.

        2. baiji says

          Here is the truth:

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
          An all-creatures Bible Message

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

          A Sermon Delivered to
          The Compassion Internet Church

          4 January 2015

          Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

          Scripture References

          Psalm 72:8-20
          Proverbs 12:10
          Isaiah 60:1-6

          Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

          This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

          We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

          And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

          As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

          God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

          God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

          God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

          God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

          God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

          God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

          And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

          The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

          But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

          10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
          But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
          NASB

          Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

          After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

          People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

          Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

          8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
          And from the River to the ends of the earth.

          Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

          And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

          9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
          And his enemies lick the dust.

          10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
          The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

          11. And let all kings bow down before him,
          All nations serve him.

          All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

          12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
          The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

          No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

          13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
          And the lives of the needy he will save.

          14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
          And their blood will be precious in his sight;

          It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

          And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

          15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
          And let them pray for him continually;
          Let them bless him all day long.

          This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

          16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
          Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
          And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

          17. May his name endure forever;
          May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
          And let men bless themselves by him;
          Let all nations call him blessed.

          We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

          18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
          Who alone works wonders.

          19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
          And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
          Amen, and Amen.

          20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
          NASB

          But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

          With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

          1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
          And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

          This is the way Jesus appears.

          This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

          It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

          They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

          2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
          And deep darkness the peoples;
          But the LORD will rise upon you,
          And His glory will appear upon you.

          Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

          3. “And nations will come to your light,
          And kings to the brightness of your rising.

          We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

          4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
          They all gather together, they come to you.
          Your sons will come from afar,
          And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

          If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

          And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

          5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
          And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
          Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
          The wealth of the nations will come to you.

          6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
          The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
          All those from Sheba will come;
          They will bring gold and frankincense,
          And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
          NASB

          In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

          We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

          We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

          We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

          We can!

          We must!

          Amen?

          Amen.

          1. Joyce Clemons says

            I get your stewardship point which you could have been more brief and still grounded in scripture, but what does this have to do with PETA.

          2. baiji says

            Many people here were stating why God put animals on earth, i.e. “for us to eat”, so I was passing on this message to them.

          3. Joyce Clemons says

            With all that scriptural grounding, seems like you are amply prepared to say in your own words (50 or less would be nice) exactly what is the core philosophy of earth/stewardship you are promoting, because, believe me, it still is more obfuscated than elucidated by your lengthy references.

          4. Joyce Clemons says

            I think this is telling: But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

            10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
            But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
            NASB

          5. Joyce Clemons says

            Carnivores eat meat. So do Omnivores. Fish eat fish as well as aquatic plants. Jesus ate Pascal lamb, and even dispensed to his Apostles for the eating of meats that were banned in the dietary parts of the Law. Please don’t distort the Gospel to promote a vegan ideology. Certainly it is fine for humans to be vegan should they so choose, but people have egregiously abused their pet dogs by making them eat as vegans, and destroying their bodies in this manner. Be careful. Don’t mock God by using His scripture to support mere human preferences that have no spiritual basis. Please. On the other hand, I do agree that it is worthy to protest inhumane and warped animal husbandry practices in the business of meat production for human and animal food. I agree with you that there are abhorrant practices to produce cheap veal by abusing baby calves, and inhumane husbandry of fowl, hogs and even fish. Nowhere, however, in scripture, is there any support after the Garden, for the caring husbandry and humane slaughter of animals to support human nutrition. Nowhere.

          6. Joyce Clemons says

            God clothed Adam and Eve in animal skins once they noticed they were naked. Where did He get that, Sears and Roebuck? no, just Roebuck.

          7. James Maxwell says

            Lots of nice Biblical references even though I do not see how that applies to
            PETA and their distorted views. The creature of earth were put here to serve
            man and provide subsistence. Remember God fed the masses with bread and
            Fish from the sea.

          8. baiji says

            Some comments on here refer to eating animals, that is why I posted what I did. Good point about the fish, I am going to research this more. PETA is trying to treat animals with compassion and teach others to do the same. How is that a distorted view?

          9. Marcia Mueller says

            Jesus spoke in parables, a word repeated often in the New Testament. The parable is story to teach an important spiritual truth. Those who study the meaning of the parables believe that the loaves and fishes represent the spiritual riches that Jesus was bringing to those who would come to him and accept his word. The riches from those lessons could could multiple without end if human beings would accept and live them. The loaves (yes, there were loaves, that is, plant-based food too) and fishes were symbols of spiritual Christ’s gifts.

          10. baiji says

            Thank you for this information Marcia. Always great to learn more about Jesus’s teachings.

          11. Marcia Mueller says

            Unfortunately, people take the Bible literally. It is a book with good lessons to teach, but it is not science, it comes from a cultures several thousand years old that did not foresee developments of succeeding centuries, and it should not be misused as an excuse to exploit and abuse animals and nature. What kind of a God could create all the other creatures on this earth and allow them to be treated so badly–not a God of justice or mercy. Besides we share a lot with other animals: chimps have 98% of our genes, a mice have around 92%, and a fruit fly over 40%. We are them and they are us (excuse the grammar). We should get over our self-importance and arrogance and have more respect for our relatives.

          12. hoss50cal says

            even Jesus are meat and God had us kill animals for the alter

          13. Brenda Robinson says

            Can you show me a quote where it says that?

          14. hoss50cal says

            you would have already read it if you were not just picking out the parts that you twist to suit your ideas

        3. Peter Sherman says

          hard to know about plants but given they don’t have any nerve cells its hard to argue that they have feelings. they do react to stimuli (light, gravity, concentrations of nutrients etc.) but its hard to argue they have feelings as much as i wish they did.

          1. James Maxwell says

            There are “Scientist” who have done studies on plants and claim that they
            do have feeling. I seem to remember that they reacted when poked with
            needles or exposed to open flames. Not sure how they measured that
            but was an interesting fact. They also say that plants react when exposed
            to certain types of music also. Who knew, even they don’t like RAP

          2. Peter Sherman says

            yes, i have heard about those studies. haven’t read the original writeups so can’t comment on the methods… but i don’t think they say that they have “feelings” but that the respond to stimuli that no expected them to respond to. For example, we know they respond to light, nutrients, gravity etc.) but those folks suggested that they also respond to types of music, calm and disruptive households (yelling etc.) and other topics that seem to have no adaptive value for a plant. so, my only kneejerk critique of those findings (if they are legit) would be “why would plants respond to those things? what in their evolutionary history would be sufficiently similar that the plant should evolve a reason to respond to that new stimuli?” not that every adaptation needs a reason to be there (it could just be a hitchiker adaptation on a more important one)…. but its curious to say the least. thanks for writing.

          3. James Maxwell says

            On a side not to Plants having “feelings” I read one of the papers and they said

            while Plants had response (feelings) the had the same responses when Rain

            fell, Thunderstorms, Lighting strikes in the intimidate area. They tried to emulate
            the conditions back in the Lab to match the other things like music, fire, poking
            and etc. It made you wonder but they are not thinking beings by our definition.
            Any thanks for the response at least there is intelligence life out there.

          4. Peter Sherman says

            sure thing james. this site is filled with a lot of angry folks who choose to remain unaware of the complexities of the issues and whitewash complexity until its black and white. i noted that your response seemed to be different from the static… and wanted to respond. i have no idea if we share any views but clearly you think independently and coherently. yes… there are glimmers of hope.

          5. James Maxwell says

            Well, before I commit something to engraved in stone I like to see how it would
            effect myself and my family. Until I have a chance to see different views and
            evidence I am open to different ideas. But after 23 years in the military and
            traveling around the world I have been exposed to a lot of various versions
            of the same thing. It is fun to be able to present your ideas and hears others
            then try to find common ground that works and is good for all.

        4. baiji says

          I don’t walk on water but I try to follow what the Man who did teaches.

      7. rchguns says

        Animals are not beings they are food. They were put on earth by God to feed man.

        1. Marcia Mueller says

          What an awful God. Only idiots would worship such a deity. Oh, I forgot, people created god in their own image.

          1. rchguns says

            .I think you need to put a little bit more animal protein in your diet because you’re obviously bring deficient. Even leaving got out of the situation the human digestive system was set up for the consumption of animal protein. There are certain amino acids that are best acquired when you have a higher protein diet basically meat.

            Every nation that is primarily a vegetarian dietary system or low in animal protein are always much smaller people talking height and development. It’s the eating of animal protein that provides the necessary nutrition for development of not only your body but your mind.

            I guess is your internal organs are set up for digesting animal protein and even your teeth show the fact that Homo sapiens are hunters. That’s why we have canines and are front teeth are set up for cutting

          2. Peter Sherman says

            you cannot meaningfully compare a first world omnivorous (largely carnivorous) population with a third world vegetarian one. therefore, to make the meaningful comparison, we would need to test first world (same socio-economic class) first worlders with other just like them (one veg, one omn, one almost carnivore) and then you’ll have your more complex answer. the answer may include things like stature and body mass etc, but it might also include cholesterol, heart conditions, and other blood chemistry and diet-related disease issues. and, of course, there is smart veg and dumb veg in terms of how one gets their nutrition. the study you suggest in your post is a great one… and can be easily done within our population (if it has not already) but you have to compare apples to apples. those small stature folks you mention are likely small due to caloric issues, childhood malnutrition, disease, genetics etc… and only secondarily to meat.

            as for humans… our teeth and digestive system (even our finger nails) reveal that we are harvesters and gathers first… hunters second. omnivores all….

        2. baiji says

          Where does it say that? Where are you getting your information from?

          Here is what God really says:

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
          An all-creatures Bible Message

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

          A Sermon Delivered to
          The Compassion Internet Church

          4 January 2015

          Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

          Scripture References

          Psalm 72:8-20
          Proverbs 12:10
          Isaiah 60:1-6

          Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

          This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

          We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

          And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

          As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

          God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

          God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

          God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

          God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

          God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

          God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

          And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

          The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

          But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

          10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
          But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
          NASB

          Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

          After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

          People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

          Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

          8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
          And from the River to the ends of the earth.

          Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

          And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

          9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
          And his enemies lick the dust.

          10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
          The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

          11. And let all kings bow down before him,
          All nations serve him.

          All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

          12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
          The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

          No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

          13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
          And the lives of the needy he will save.

          14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
          And their blood will be precious in his sight;

          It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

          And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

          15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
          And let them pray for him continually;
          Let them bless him all day long.

          This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

          16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
          Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
          And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

          17. May his name endure forever;
          May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
          And let men bless themselves by him;
          Let all nations call him blessed.

          We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

          18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
          Who alone works wonders.

          19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
          And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
          Amen, and Amen.

          20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
          NASB

          But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

          With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

          1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
          And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

          This is the way Jesus appears.

          This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

          It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

          They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

          2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
          And deep darkness the peoples;
          But the LORD will rise upon you,
          And His glory will appear upon you.

          Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

          3. “And nations will come to your light,
          And kings to the brightness of your rising.

          We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

          4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
          They all gather together, they come to you.
          Your sons will come from afar,
          And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

          If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

          And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

          5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
          And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
          Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
          The wealth of the nations will come to you.

          6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
          The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
          All those from Sheba will come;
          They will bring gold and frankincense,
          And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
          NASB

          In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

          We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

          We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

          We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

          We can!

          We must!

          Amen?

          Amen.

          1. rchguns says

            Will as for God not experimenting on small animals I have to take exception with that. When he was in his workshop designing heaven and earth and all animals what else could you call it when he comes up with a platypus a mammal that lays eggs that’s minimus. Or a giraffe it looks like a spotted horse with a long neck. If nothing else God has a sense of humor. If he didn’t have a sense of humor there would be a shortage of idiots like you on the plan. As for the biology and nutrition that’s part of what I’ve done for over 50 years. You can get the nutrients you need but not eating animal protein but if you make the slightest mistake you end up like a brainless short person who falls behind the rest of the world.

            Every country in the Orient have almost one thing universally in common their people are small by our standards very small. In countries like Japan and South Korea with the people finally wised up and started eating animal protein their average height and help has improved drastically.

            Now you tree hugging candy asses want to protect the poor little fuzzy animals that are used in medical testing and such I have a very good idea why don’t you volunteered to take their place. That way you would do the whole world a favor. You would say the little furry he’s and stop causing trouble with normal human beings.

            I do not believe in torturing animals nor do I believe in using them for scientific experiments just for the sake of seeing how much it takes to kill them and other nervous system works. But there are times when medications and other things need to be tested and sometimes there is no alternative other than using an animal now I could care less if they decided to use one of your people but I would hate to see a normal sensible human being uses an experimental subject.

            Unfortunately 90% of medical advances have occurred in one of two ways either through testing on animals or through warfare. A warrant makes a lot of casualties in that stimulates the development of medical procedures both in the line of medicine, medical devices, and procedures. I would much rather see these advances made through the use of test animals that through a world war but obviously you don’t see that as a viable choice he would much rather see the warfare than poor little fuzzy animals being tested on.

            I love animals always have animals and not only companions and part of my family but other animals serve a different purpose thanks to a botched medical procedure I only have one good working leg and I want to go out in the woods or wherever I ride a horse now I realize by your standards of committed a mortal sin by writing a horse but how else am I supposed to go out and make sure the cattle are cared for water and when necessary brought in and sent to the slaughterhouse.

            Anyway you cut it humans were meant to eat meat. Our teeth were designed for our digestive systems were designed for digesting meat. If we were meant to be vegetarians will it out three stomachs spend the third of the day foraging in eating and two thirds of the day laying in the shade and regurgitating are undigested food and chewing it again.

            But then again I keep forgetting that my wife’s grandfather before he passed away at home he totally never argue with idiots and here I am doing exactly what he told me not to do. Every day the man’s life yet for eggs and bacon every morning is primary food source was meat and potatoes. He ran a dairy farm and he passed away in his own bed at 105. I think the man knew a thing or two. On I forgot his cholesterol according to the doctor was about the same as a 21-year-old in good health.

          2. baiji says

            There is nothing wrong with riding a horse if you take care of the animal. I do care about the trees because we need them. In the orient they are torturing cats and dogs and eating them. Fortunately regarding medical testing, they now have other methods so they do not use animals. Why do you feel the need to insult others and name call people who differ from you? It is not necessary to make your points. Bullying is not cool.

          3. rchguns says

            You finally said something I can agree with. Bullying is not cool with a flaky animal-rights activists in the ecoterrorists are some of the biggest bullies around.

            In many cultures people do eat cats and dogs, along with lizards, snakes and in India rat is high on the menu.

            I’ve never condoned the torturing of animals but every person’s definition of torturing his and can usually be different. You want to see torturing go to France and see how they make foie gras a.k.a. goose liver pâté. The Geiser In small cages just big enough for the bird and their head sticking out and then they force-feed them by poking food down their throats with a stick to grossly enlarge their livers.

            I’ve been a Hunter all my life and in the animals I harvested I always endeavor to make it is quick and clean as possible. No animal should suffer unduly. But the bottom line is that mankind is the top of the food chain at this point in time and in some ways that puts all the other animals on the shopping list.

          4. Peter Sherman says

            you make some good points. but in terms of dentition and digestive systems (not to mention the latest views from anthropology) humans are vegetarians primarily and carnivores secondarily… making us, by definition, omnivores. on another point, sure we have benefited greatly (at many animals’ expenses) with many pharmacological advancements but now with different cell cultures that we can cultivate, if we can cut out the animal surrogates and work (ethically) on human-based subjects (human cells and moving in the direction of organ systems) that will be a huge advancement both in terms of animal ethics and effective drug production.

        3. Peter Sherman says

          there is not a shred of biological or scientific evidence or even postulation to suggest that animals are not beings. biologically, other higher mammals are so close to us in our design, structure and function that we can with minimal interference interchange body parts (e.g., skin, blood, bone) when necessary… we can run drug trials on them and know with great certainty whether they will work on us etc. etc. if animals are not beings… then neither are humans (and vice versa) IF you recognize the advancements of science in terms of the biological sciences. I can respect that your view is a religious one but you should acknowledge (if you do not already) that your view is outdated when it comes to science. just saying… not attacking…

      8. patriotdaddy says

        the love and compassion for animals is not hte issue…..it is the legitimacy of their doctrine!!! explain to us….why PETA would ignore the slaughtering and intentional running down of cattle at bundy’s ranch…with the “offer” to halp dispose of the bodies?!?!? why did PETA not immediately throw blame onto the BLM, harry reid, and the US government??!?!?……i will tell you why…..b/c they are another branch of the gov’t!!! not openly…but can you explain it any other way?!?! no….there is no ecuse why they would sweep that controversy under the rug unless gov’t was their bosses!!! PETA is a FRAUD!!!! until they are in court charging harry reid in this criminal venture…..they are no more validated than the criminal congress!!!

    2. staberdearth says

      More like the rest of us adopting the acronym. People Educating Thoughtless Azzwipes…

      1. Pam Dunn says

        The ONLY Azzwipes that NEED educating are total morons like you and the rest of PETA.

        1. staberdearth says

          And you are responding to me in this way, why? I simply wanted to add a different, less used acronym from the obvious one the prior poster used…

          1. Nellie says

            Don’t you get it? She didn’t know what acronym meant.

          2. staberdearth says

            Now…let’s try (gulp) homonyms…
            Peta …. Pita

        2. staberdearth says

          Oh…you are excused. Evidently you thought I was on the pro PETA side. Far from it. You might want to read some of my other posts on this site.

        3. emag says

          Duh???????
          Didn’t understand staberdearth?

    3. James Maxwell says

      But first you have to learn how to track, hunt and kill the animal then skin, butcher it and
      preserve the meat so it will last, same with Fish or even the crops you grow at home. Not
      bad and you do not have to depend upon some Pompous Government bottom feeder rationing
      your food to you and your family. Teach your children how to hunt, use weapons safely and
      be proficient with them if time arises when it is necessary.

      1. Peter Sherman says

        wait a cottinpikin minute. meat comes wrapped in saran around styrofoam. you mean all these meat eaters filled with bravado might actually have to get dirty? wow… if we had to kill animals to eat… i guarantee at least 50% of the nation’s meat eaters would become veg in 10 minutes. good that you remind folks that there’s more to meat than meats the eye.

        1. patriotdaddy says

          are you full on retarded?!?! who cares tha the just summarized the “how to” with hunting and preparing meat for consumption!!!! do you want your children to starve if gov’t begins rationing food??? you must be a fuckin liberal!!! pfft pathetic…..you commented on the 1 comment you should have left alone idiot!!!

          1. festmatt5440 says

            daddy ; Pay attention . ‘ it was a joke ‘.

          2. Mike Lawson says

            Sarcasm, genius!

  2. baiji says

    Yes, it would be a world with less suffering and more compassion. I wish PETA could run the world.

    1. billyjshafer says

      PETA is a joke. They turn animals loose. So they can be killed by cars. I will be happy to send a few wild hogs to them. So they can see the damage the hogs do.

      1. baiji says

        Yes, so the animals do not suffer. They send them to a safe place.

      2. baiji says

        Where are these wild hogs you speak of?

        1. Danno42 says

          They are running rampant and multiplying in great numbers that create more damage to the environment and even into neighborhoods. Ever see what the tusks of a hog cand do? Picture a child attacked by one and killed. To answer your question, they’re everywhere and multiplying at an alarming rate. Dumbass.

      3. Peter Sherman says

        true… PETA (speaking as a supporter) is an animals rights group and NOT a conservation group (as considered by the field of conservation biology). I am a conservationists more than an animal rights sort. what that means is this: IF a hog is introduced to the US from europe (or to a remote island by pirates in the old days (e.g., Cocos Island in Costa Rica)), then a conservationist clearly concludes that to protect the native species, we must eradicate the introduced hogs. the animal rights person sees the hogs (rightly) as individual organisms who are merely pawns in this human game and wants to protect them individually. Two VERY different ideas. Given all the INhumanity from humans to the natural world… there’s room for both ideas at the table it seems to me.

    2. Tex Irvin says

      and you think the world is bad now ? if they ran the world it would be a mad house run by the insane

      1. baiji says

        I think you just described how people act now.

        1. Tex Irvin says

          only the tip of the iceberg if PETA ran it

      2. vietnam6871 says

        Perfect description of Washington D.C.

    3. Albert Nygren says

      PETA only has compassion for animals, not humans! I would not want them to rule the world unless I was an animal!

      1. baiji says

        That is not true. PETA has compassion. For animals and people. Why do you say that? On what basis?

        1. Jarhead says

          PETA members are Control Freaks and could care less about anything or anyone else. They operate just like the LGBTQ idiots in their lust for POWER.

          1. baiji says

            Do you know any PETA members?

          2. Jarhead says

            Affirmative. Also meet others dragging their pets into restaurants & retail stores all the time.

          3. baiji says

            There are good and bad people everywhere. It is not really fair to lump everyone together. People should be judged as individuals.

        2. Albert Nygren says

          I’ll just mention one but I’m sure that you can do a search and find many. At one University some years ago that was using rabbits to study a possible cure for cancer, people from PETA broke into the lab and let all of the rabbits out of their cages thus spoiling the research!

    4. hoss50cal says

      if they ran the world the animals would over populate and suffer and die from starvation and rampant diseases

      1. Peter Sherman says

        grab any ecology text book and you will learn that nature is pretty deft at taking care of itself. the predators and prey would find their balance…. so your main point is incorrect. True, animals would die from starvation and disease if out of balance… and those very things would be the return to balance needed. if those things don’t get them, predators will. But, the point is this: eventually… when left alone… nature finds its balance. WE, by stark comparison, have removed ourselves largely from the controls of nature… it is WE who are out of balance. And, given that fact, your cautionary comment may be true… but not for the other animals… but for us! good and scary point you make and we humans should consider seriously it.

        1. Danno42 says

          And how long is eventually Peter? You seem to either ignore or are not cognizant of the fact that natural habitats have been invaded by humans for housing, food production, etc. This is the reason we are seeing wild animals encroaching into neighborhoods and having to be either killed or captured to be relocated and then return to be killed or captured again. I see more deer killed on the INterstate driving to my deer lease in one trip than we harvest in a season there. ANd yes, it is harvesting that prevents starvation, disease and road kill.

          1. Peter Sherman says

            Agreed. beyond the invasion of their habitats, we have killed off their predators mostly or totally. we, as you point out, take up the slack but we do so in exactly the opposite way that the predators did it. We take the biggest bulls with the biggest trophy antlers (or course, i am generalizing… but that is the trend) and the wolves and grizzly and lions took the young and old and sick. they strengthened the herds while we weaken them further. so, while we do prevent starvation, road kill etc by hunting… i would not necessarily way we always help disease. by taking the strongest among them, we potentially leave a more vulnerable sub population behind… so, potentially, more vulnerable to disease outbreaks. in terms of how long before balance is reached… it is never really reached. its a dynamic equilibrium (which is a sort of balance) in that it is constantly ebbing and flowing but if left alone remains in balance in terms of predators/prey. of course, there are exceptions… but that’s the general theory. thanks for writing and sorry for the delayed response.

        2. hoss50cal says

          when they outlawed hunting mountain lions in California, with in 2 years they had over bred & over taxed their food supply and had to come out of the high country and start to feed on people’s pets and even attacked people and that’s just 1 example of what happens when Peta and their kind gets their way. the only way nature could have a chance to find a balance would be to wipe out the human race and reclaim the habitat we have destroyed. as for me I don’t really care one way or the other I could survive in the mountains if it wasn’t for needing to have my knees replaced. I just hate fanatics that can’t or will not strike a balance

        3. Francisco Machado says

          The normal natural balance is cyclical. To cite a small part of it, a few good years and mild winters favors many animal populations to expand. dense population increases the transmission of killing disease vectors or the inevitable droughts or bad winters results in a significant die-off of game animals and of the predators and the reduced availability of feed stocks drives them into populated areas. That’s why we have fish and game commissions and regulated hunting seasons. PETA has a long-standing reputation of placing animals “beyond harm” by killing them. Try having a rational conversation with any of them about this and watch psychosis in action. If you disagree with them on any point, you will be demonized.

    5. sweetolbob says

      baiji:
      It’s a shame you have your head so far up there, but realize that if their cockamamie
      Dreams came true, millions of animals would either die of starvation or become food for other animals.
      Also, you would be considered food by a large percentage of them.
      Be careful what you wish for.

    6. Fed Up with BS says

      PETA is against animal testing, which is crucial for biomedical research. For example, many vaccines were made possible by animal testing. PETA’s vice president, Mary Beth Sweetland, is a diabetic who takes insulin that was tested on animals.

      1. Jarhead says

        Like all PC Liberal-retards it is always “Do as we say”……….”but NOT as we do”

  3. sweetolbob says

    PETA members are collectively a huge bunch of hypocrites ! They do demonstrably stupid things like putting some jerk in a fish suit to protest fishing tournaments, but say nothing about filthy Muslims enjoying the pain and suffering of animals subjected WORLDWIDE to their barbaric halal slaughter

    1. baiji says

      You are wrong, they do condemn halal slaughter as well.

      1. patriotdaddy says

        PETA needs to go away!!! they did not even attempt to touch the bundy ranch issue where all those cattle were slaughtered by BLM by orders of harry reid!!! all they did was “offer to help dispose of the carcasses”…i called PETA numerous times and they refuse to comment on that situation even though many of those turtles were ran over and killed tha tthey were suppose to be there to protect!!! PETA choose its battles, and they apparently refuse to condemn the congressmen that pass their bills for them….nice job america!! petition the PETA out of this country!! they are frauds!!

      2. mac12sam12 says

        Are you pro-choice?

        1. Mark Clemens says

          Beef or Pork?

        2. baiji says

          We are talking about animals here.

          1. mac12sam12 says

            My point is, all these tree hugging Bambi lovers tend to be pro-choice, save the whale, kill the baby.

          2. baiji says

            You make a good point. I never thought about it that way.

      3. whoselineisitanyway says

        NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK PIG#MUSLIM

        1. baiji says

          I am not a pig, and I am not a Muslim.

      4. Stan Hoffman says

        baiji, peta is about nothing more than soliciting funds from bleeding heart suckers who think they are doing something good to make themselves feel better. Peta puts on a show with about 10% of the money collected. The rest goes to pay salaries, overhead expenses, and the buying of stocks, bonds, and real estate. So if you want to through your money away to make someone else rich, through it my way. At least I’ll be honest and tell you I’m just taking the money for my own personal gain instead of perpetrating a lie like peta does.

        1. Guest says

          Stan, I like to know my facts, so I wrote PETA and asked them. Here is the information. Now we both know the facts:
          From: RichardL@petaf.org
          To: bjr58@hotmail.com
          Subject: Re: Your Inquiry Regarding PETA’s Financial Statement
          Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:55:15 +0000

          Dear Brenda,

          Thank you for writing us regarding remarks made about PETA’s financial responsibility and staff salaries. We admire your desire to contribute only to financially responsible organizations and can assure you that PETA is very frugal and insists upon the most cost-effective methods of operation. We’re confident you will find that PETA is very cautious regarding financial matters. Compared with many other nonprofit organizations, PETA operates, and always will operate, in the most financially effective way possible.

          PETA is a nonprofit, tax exempt 501(c)(3) corporation funded almost exclusively by the contributions of our members. We strive to use our funds in the most cost-effective and efficient manner possible, a commitment illustrated by the fact that 88.87 percent of our operating expenses went directly to our programs fighting animal exploitation. We expended only 10.07 percent on fundraising efforts that drive our operations and 1.06 percent on management and general operations.

          Ten percent of PETA’s dedicated staff earn only $16,000 to $29,999, 47 percent earn $30,000 to $39,999, and only the remaining 43 percent make more than $39,999. We pride ourselves on our moderate salaries, including at the executive level. As National Journal noted in a 2006 cover story about nonprofit executive pay, “[T]he median salary at a public-interest group was $184,881. At the bottom of our survey was Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, whose compensation was $35,664. Newkirk says she is satisfied with her salary: ‘Given how little animals [have] and [how much] many people have, one has to ask, ‘How much money does a person really need?’” Ms. Newkirk’s salary for the 2014 fiscal year was $40,320.

          Thanks to the assistance of so many kind supporters like you, PETA has made tremendous strides in helping make the world a better place for animals. Since PETA was founded in 1980, we have grown into the largest animal rights group in the world, with more than 3 million members and supporters around the globe. We have also had major groundbreaking successes, such as bringing about the first-ever cruelty conviction against an animal experimenter in the now-famous Silver Spring monkeys case; persuading the Taiwanese government to pass its first-ever law against cruelty to animals; terminating a military laboratory’s shooting of animals; and persuading more than 1,400 cosmetics companies to permanently abandon unnecessary animal tests.

          I’ve attached a copy of our latest Annual Review for you to share and the annual review is also available to view online here: http://www.peta.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ANNUAL-REVIEW-2014.pdf. The financial statement can be viewed on page 19 of the Annual Review.

          Thank you again for your support over the years and for all that you do for animals. I would be glad to answer any further questions or concerns you might have.

          Kind regards,
          Richard Luong
          Gift Planning Liaison
          PETA Foundation

          1. Stan Hoffman says

            Guest, It was about 20 years ago that many of the nonprofits were using the money for things other than they were suppose to. Since it was reported on then, they must have been investigated and made to clean up their act. So unless its phony accounting, they must be using the money properly.

        2. Guest says

          SSLSL ALSDF;

        3. Brenda Robinson says

          Stan, I took the time to write PETA and ask about their financial situation. Here is the reply I got:

          Dear Brenda,

          Thank you for writing us regarding remarks made about PETA’s financial responsibility and staff salaries. We admire your desire to contribute only to financially responsible organizations and can assure you that PETA is very frugal and insists upon the most cost-effective methods of operation. We’re confident you will find that PETA is very cautious regarding financial matters. Compared with many other nonprofit organizations, PETA operates, and always will operate, in the most financially effective way possible.

          PETA is a nonprofit, tax exempt 501(c)(3) corporation funded almost exclusively by the contributions of our members. We strive to use our funds in the most cost-effective and efficient manner possible, a commitment illustrated by the fact that 88.87 percent of our operating expenses went directly to our programs fighting animal exploitation. We expended only 10.07 percent on fundraising efforts that drive our operations and 1.06 percent on management and general operations.

          Ten percent of PETA’s dedicated staff earn only $16,000 to $29,999, 47 percent earn $30,000 to $39,999, and only the remaining 43 percent make more than $39,999. We pride ourselves on our moderate salaries, including at the executive level. As National Journal noted in a 2006 cover story about nonprofit executive pay, “[T]he median salary at a public-interest group was $184,881. At the bottom of our survey was Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, whose compensation was $35,664. Newkirk says she is satisfied with her salary: ‘Given how little animals [have] and [how much] many people have, one has to ask, ‘How much money does a person really need?’” Ms. Newkirk’s salary for the 2014 fiscal year was $40,320.

          Thanks to the assistance of so many kind supporters like you, PETA has made tremendous strides in helping make the world a better place for animals. Since PETA was founded in 1980, we have grown into the largest animal rights group in the world, with more than 3 million members and supporters around the globe. We have also had major groundbreaking successes, such as bringing about the first-ever cruelty conviction against an animal experimenter in the now-famous Silver Spring monkeys case; persuading the Taiwanese government to pass its first-ever law against cruelty to animals; terminating a military laboratory’s shooting of animals; and persuading more than 1,400 cosmetics companies to permanently abandon unnecessary animal tests.

          I’ve attached a copy of our latest Annual Review for you to share and the annual review is also available to view online here: http://www.peta.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ANNUAL-REVIEW-2014.pdf. The financial statement can be viewed on page 19 of the Annual Review.

          Thank you again for your support over the years and for all that you do for animals. I would be glad to answer any further questions or concerns you might have.

          Kind regards,

          Richard Luong

          Gift Planning Liaison

          PETA Foundation

    2. sniperbait66 says

      Not to mention the Rape and beheading of Children. Get a clue. Muslims are filth and must be destroyed.
      When you learn that their “Religion” says it is OK to take, and to own Slaves, that it is OK for a married man, or any ‘man’ to have sex with male or female slaves of ANY age because they are “not even human”, and all the rest of the Sharia garbage, you have a picture of this so-called “religion” is nothing more than a compendium of madness, rape and murder. Time to end them. To destroy their very genetic code. If they are not destroyed, Humanity will continue down this dark road to the Islamic Abyss they plan for the World…

      1. iowaheretic says

        Do you know the Jewish Torah and the Christian Bible say the EXACT SAME things! Not to mention the Jewish Talmud, which fundamentalist Jews consider to be their extreme authority. Before you spew hatred towards me for telling you this, look it up for yourself and you’ll see that I’m right. By the way, I’m not a Muslim and never will be, I just think the three religions of Abraham have been fighting and killing each other over trifles like dogs fighting over a bone for the last 2000 years. They claim there are one billion
        Christians on the planet and one billion Muslims, but the total population of the planet is seven billion. So I don’t think the Christians or the Muslims will ever accomplish anything except to keep hating and killing each other over NOTHING. They’ve had 2000 years and are still at it.

        1. sniperbait66 says

          Yes, I know this. Name me one recent instance of Christians or even Jews behaving in the same insane manner as Muslims are now behaving. You can’t.
          I won’t spew Hatred at you, THAT is a Liberal trait, I’m a Conservative. We Defend, Liberals Offend, scream, yell, stamp their feet, break windows, loot and threaten and make a scene when they no evidence to support their normally inane and fatuous claims of injury or righteousness, which for Liberals is a contradiction in itself. How can any Liberal be righteous when they won’t even acknowledge any God but Satan?

        2. Stan Hoffman says

          iowaheritic, no the Judeo/Christian bible does not say the exact same thing. It was the practice in the ancient times to take slaves because it was there largest form of employment. God set guidelines that they were suppose to follow, and it did not include the improper treatment of their slaves whether they were poor Jewish people or conquered slaves. The Arabic’s come from the same father. Father Abraham through his son Ishmael born by Hagar not Sarah. Hagar and Ishmael were kicked out of Abrahams tribe because they were wild and unruly to his wife Sarah and her son Isaac. Over the centuries Ishmael’s tribe of Arabic’s warred with Isaac’s tribe of Hebrews as well as christians and learned a few things of the Torah and the rest of the Judeo/Christian bible. That’s what Mohammad based his Koran on. A few things of the bible and twisted his Koran to meet the needs of his twisted people. So the Koran and the Bible do not compare. But you obviously know nothing about being Christian.

  4. dosadoe says

    If PETA ran the world, steaks would be made from wood chips and saw dust!

    1. baiji says

      Have you educated yourself about what you are doing to your body by eating steaks? I suggest you do.

      1. John Stratemeyer says

        Have you ever “educated yourself” about minding your own business, Mrs. Obama? What people, other than yourself, choose to eat isn’t it. I’ve eaten steak all my life – rare, most of the time. You’d be happy to be in the shape I’m in.

        1. sniperbait66 says

          Yes, especially since her arse is the size of Chicago! But with a face like that, who cares?
          I heard that in Kenya, they use her picture for making Witch Doctor masks at the local Medical schools…Ugh! Gives me chills.

          1. John Stratemeyer says

            Imagine how the demons that the masks are supposed to keep away feel about it.

          2. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Push her face in some cookie dough and make gorilla cookies. Before you all call me a racist, that was a line from Sanford and Son.

          3. OldPatriot32 says

            What’ll you bet they have separate bedrooms? LOL Gays & transis don’t fit well in the same conjugal bed!

        2. Jim says

          Anecdotal stories are the best source of information because you have the word of the person telling the story and do not have to rely on independent unbiased sources.

        3. baiji says

          I thought we were having a serious discussion here. What about free speech? I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are to yours.

          1. John Stratemeyer says

            What you mean is that my interrogatory isn’t “serious” because it questions your “higher wisdom.” In my world, we call that “disagreement.” The quarrel isn’t about your right to hold an opinion, Mrs. Obama. It’s not about “free speech” either. It’s about “minding your own business,” and not imposing your opinion on other people, which is a concept that baffles liberal/socialist/Democrats (LSDs), apparently including yourself, and certainly PETA.
            You “suggest” that dosadoe “educate” him/herself about the presumed “harm” that he/she is doing to his/her body by eating a steak – as if he/she needs your “superior intellect” and/or guidance. What dosadoe, or anyone but yourself, chooses to eat is none of your business. “Think” what you like, but “serious discussion” doesn’t require agreement with your views.

          2. baiji says

            I agree, I should not have made that statement. People can eat what they like. I will mind my own business about that in the future. But I will never remain silent when it comes to cruelty to animals, and that is why I support PETA, they are fighting to stop animal cruelty. p.s. I never said ‘serious discussion’ requires people to agree with me.

          3. John Stratemeyer says

            That cruelty to animals is a terrible thing is something on which I like to think most people agree. If I had the money to do it, I’d open an animal shelter. I have a nephew who volunteers at a shelter/adoption center. The stories he tells about some of the animals that they’ve rescued chill the blood.

          4. baiji says

            That is very nice of your nephew to volunteer at a shelter. I too would love to have the money to open a sanctuary for animals in need. I have visited a few and they are such wonderful places. Animals well cared for and living in peace with one another.

      2. talltreetrader says

        Are all PETA PEOPLE Athiests? They must be as God made sure that His Chosen People ate plenty of RED MEAT! The reason that PETA exists is do to the lack of O to the brain ( That’s Oxygen to you PETA People); in order for the brain to work properly it requires natural oxygen, in order for the brain to get that oxygen the body metabolism needs an organic source of IRON. The very best source of iron is from RED MEAT ( beef, mutton, venison, elk etc.
        TheGospelTruth.us

        1. hoss50cal says

          yes Venison and not that farm raised stuff Mmmmm good

        2. sniperbait66 says

          They aren’t Atheists, they worship SATAN, hence they sound like Aliens to the rest of us. We can lump the SATAN worshipers in with the Muslims and drop them ALL into live volcanoes. Cheaper than deportation, and, in ONE drop, they go straight to HELL!

          1. Jeff Waugh says

            Along with all liberals, oh, wait a minute, that’s an oxymoron isn’t it ? All liberals need a plastic, see through, plastic belly button so they can see out from from where their head are so deeply implanted. Liberals is just another description or term for muslims. They become so inflamed at any idea or belief or such that disagrees with their warped ideology. There’s no such thing as leveling with one, just like trying to discuss things they’re not receptive to are simply a waste of your time. The’re far too worried about being politically correct.

          2. Peter Sherman says

            jeff… you just got the prize: “Liberals is just another description or term for muslims.” that is spectacular. if there is an ounce of seriousness in what you say… you are a real find.

          3. Becky says

            Oh man that’s the best one I’ve heard yet Sniper! Where have you been all this time?

          4. Marcia Mueller says

            Think the sniper must have taken a shot to the head.

          5. Becky says

            He doesn’t strike me that way Marcia.

          6. Peter Sherman says

            note: sniper BAIT.

        3. Mike Sidman says

          Lack of oxygen to the brain results in both stupidity AND inbreeding, we see a lot of libtards shacking up and copulating with their first cousins, siblings, etc., pouring even more sewage into the gene pool

        4. Jim says

          Talk with your medical doctor regarding your dietary requirements. I doubt he will tell you to eat more red meat.

          1. talltreetrader says

            Jesus is my doctor; I am 80 years old and in good physical health,still cut my own fire wood, garden and do any thing I decide to do. I will admit that all commercial food is not what it use to be; try to eat natural, grass fed beef when I can, wild game is better; was raised on goats meat.I had a veterinary neighbor and his wife was a nutritionist, they both agreed with what I said. God did not put food here that was unfit to eat; only man made it that way. By the way I eat lots of eggs too.
            TheGospelTruth.us

          2. OldPatriot32 says

            My Grandpa ate bacon & eggs & whole wheat toast and jam (horrors!) every day of his life. Those awful foods finally killed him, at 99-1/2 years old! LOL

          3. Jim says

            Great anecdote as most are. Statistics mean little or nothing.

          4. Nellie says

            So did my grandparents then the government stepped in with regulations that requires foods to stay fresher longer and the greedy producer is going to add whatever the law will allow and between them both we can’t eat the fresh stuff like they did. All mine lived into their 90’s and in good health most of their lives. We live longer only because of the meds.. for everything and some don’t look like they are living very well. Most fat people you see I would bet are taking meds. that makes them fat by increasing their appetite to the point of obsession. If you read the side effects, you may not die of the disease of the med. is helping you but from the side effects. Just because the doctor gives it you, you should be responsible for your health. If you eat what you are suppose to, the cravings for junk food stop but meat is still important to the diet even if is lean meat.

          5. Jim says

            Who gives you your prescriptions? How about your immunizations?

          6. talltreetrader says

            Don’t take medicine, prescription or over the counter; my last flue shot was in 1995 in the Navy same for Tetanus. Every time the Navy gave me a flu shot I got the flue, which was at least every year. Don’t get the flue anymore. I will not sign up for Obama Care
            TheGospelTruth.

          7. Jim says

            You were in the Navy when you were 60 years old? You have no health insurance?

          8. Jarhead says

            Self Insured Health Care is cheaper/better/faster/easier and subject to less harassment than when you are FORCED to purchase Health Care for yourself and dozens of others (i.e., welfare cases) by the FED/GOV.

          9. Jim says

            I have never heard of an individual health insurance company. I know some companies are self-insured for many exposures but not individuals.

          10. Jarhead says

            JIMBO: The individual pays for all Health Care (AKA:Self Insured) i.e., they don’t pay HIGH premiums to an Insurance Company! For MANY this saves MONEY.
            Only our corrupt Congress & SCOTUS says you MUST have Health Insurance and YOU MUST ALSO PROVIDE FOR ALL THE LAZY FOLKS – legal or illegal.
            An Insurance Policy is NOT NECESSARY, never has been, most Churches take care of their own, and no ER has ever turned someone away. ACA is a scam and should be defunded/deleted/shut-down/closed/eliminated. Anyone who voted for it should be investigated and serve prison time when found guilty. Now you know!

          11. Peter Sherman says

            come sometime to my kid’s daycare… see if you last long. but, whether or not you do… more power to you for staying strong and staying more natural than most.

          12. OldPatriot32 says

            Meantime, the good doctor enjoys his filets at the best restaurants!

          13. Becky says

            Exactly. With his wine, followed by dessert Scotch.

          14. Becky says

            Doctors are mostly fools. They don’t know anymore than anyone else. Once they get out of school they pretty much stop learning. Just like the rest of us. Actually WORSE than the rest of us because truly intelligent people never stop learning. I have a disease that’s been around for many decades. Doctors, the idiots that they are, STILL barely know about it and mostly ignore it. I listen to nothing from them. I do my own research. And so should anyone else who values their life.

          15. Jim says

            I hope your disease is soon gone. For the great majority of people, medical doctors and nurses are lifesavers and life prolongers.

          16. Becky says

            Thanks for your kind wish Jim, but it’s not going away. Too bad the ignorant docs spent about 6 decades telling people they were ‘faking’ as opposed to finding out about it and fixing it. Nope. Short of a broken bone I have no use for them.

          17. Jim says

            fibromyalgia?

          18. Becky says

            Good try Jim but no. I have that too but it is by far the lesser of the 2. The other one hit my brain and immune system. Pretty much home bound, avoid people like crazy. They all carry germs….. 😉 Allergic to most foods, perfumes, gas fumes, etc. Makes being out a dangerous undertaking. And the extent of the damage could have been prevented had the fools not been so intent on ignoring it. Pretty much lost my life, but am still living.

          19. Jarhead says

            We can all agree that any Health Care System has a few quacks/incompetent/crooked people – – BUT just look at our Congress and the massive corruption there, over which tax payers have very little or/no control.

          20. OSAMA OBAMA says

            My “doctor” just suggested an antibiotic for my viral cough! Even I know better. She is either on big Pharm’s payroll or stupid, or both!

          21. Nellie says

            He would if you low in certain vitamins an minerals or if you are anemic. Not everybody is fat and overeating meat. We have standards and meat is good for you. You need protein and yes you can get from other sources if I had a choice between a big glass of milk and a lean piece of steak. Steak please.

        5. Marcia Mueller says

          Wow, a guy right out of the dark ages. I hope you want to have people stoned for adultery or killed for being uncircumcised or you would be a hypocrite who does not follow the Bible. Or you just pick and choose the parts of the Bible you like and condemn those who don’t agree with you. You’re the one who needs the oxygen tank.

          1. talltreetrader says

            Another Government Schooled “Usfull Idiot”

          2. Jarhead says

            Peter S. is so stupid he thinks Peter Pan is a wash basin in Obama’s favorite Gay Bath House.

          3. Marcia Mueller says

            Come on, talltreetrader, get a grip! Actually I spent 14 years in Catholic schools, and then went on to get an education beyond dogma elsewhere. The world is changing (yes, that is scary), and attitudes towards animals are changing. Getting angry and hurling quotes from a book several thousand years old won’t stop the change. Yes the Bible has important spiritual lessons, but the most important lessons are about justice and mercy, and that is where we need to move for the planet and for the rest of creation.

        6. Peter Sherman says

          just a question: if god made sure we ate red meat… why did he wait around for US (humans) to create cows? the cow is a creation of artificial selection run by humans… the only evidence i would say about god’s wishes in terms of food would be that he wanted us to (maybe) eat fish and bread…. but i don’t see the meat in there.

          1. talltreetrader says

            Gen 2:20
            And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to
            every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for
            him. (This was before God made Eve)——- Kine, Calf, Heifer,Bullock, Beeves
            are all names given to the beast we know as the cow, in the old testament.
            Read Gen. 32:15 about Jacob
            Lev 1:5
            And he shall kill the bullock before the LORD: and the priests, Aaron’s
            sons, shall bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar
            that is by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
            Lev 2:3
            And the remnant of the meat offering shall be Aaron’s and his
            sons’: it is a thing most holy of the offerings of the LORD made by
            fire.

            TheGospelTruth.us

      3. TrueAmerican says

        Yea steaks make for at srong body. It helps build muscle. Dumb ass

      4. Michael Gentry says

        Humans are carnivores.

        Eating meat is not the problem…

        Extremism IS the problem.

        and it applies to everything.

        1. baiji says

          FYI:

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
          An all-creatures Bible Message

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

          A Sermon Delivered to
          The Compassion Internet Church

          4 January 2015

          Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

          Scripture References

          Psalm 72:8-20
          Proverbs 12:10
          Isaiah 60:1-6

          Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

          This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

          We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

          And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

          As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

          God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

          God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

          God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

          God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

          God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

          God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

          And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

          The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

          But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

          10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
          But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
          NASB

          Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

          After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

          People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

          Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

          8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
          And from the River to the ends of the earth.

          Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

          And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

          9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
          And his enemies lick the dust.

          10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
          The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

          11. And let all kings bow down before him,
          All nations serve him.

          All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

          12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
          The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

          No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

          13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
          And the lives of the needy he will save.

          14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
          And their blood will be precious in his sight;

          It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

          And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

          15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
          And let them pray for him continually;
          Let them bless him all day long.

          This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

          16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
          Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
          And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

          17. May his name endure forever;
          May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
          And let men bless themselves by him;
          Let all nations call him blessed.

          We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

          18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
          Who alone works wonders.

          19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
          And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
          Amen, and Amen.

          20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
          NASB

          But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

          With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

          1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
          And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

          This is the way Jesus appears.

          This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

          It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

          They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

          2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
          And deep darkness the peoples;
          But the LORD will rise upon you,
          And His glory will appear upon you.

          Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

          3. “And nations will come to your light,
          And kings to the brightness of your rising.

          We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

          4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
          They all gather together, they come to you.
          Your sons will come from afar,
          And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

          If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

          And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

          5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
          And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
          Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
          The wealth of the nations will come to you.

          6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
          The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
          All those from Sheba will come;
          They will bring gold and frankincense,
          And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
          NASB

          In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

          We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

          We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

          We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

          We can!

          We must!

          Amen?

          Amen.

      5. hoss50cal says

        doesn’t matter what you eat now we have destroyed the health of our food supply with all the tampering we have done to it

      6. sniperbait66 says

        Go eat wood chips you friggin’ Troll. Better run, the Sun is coming up!

      7. johnwes says

        What are you idiot vegans going to do when we prove that plants also have feelings and feel pain besides all you are doing is eating all of the animals food? God created man to be a carnivore as proved by our teeth. Vegans try to fool themselves into thinking that only eating plants is healthy but most experts not totally disagree.

        1. Stan Hoffman says

          johnwes, I personally am a omnivore. But each to his own.

      8. mac12sam12 says

        Steak! It’s what’s for supper!!

      9. OSAMA OBAMA says

        Going to have a medium rare cheeseburger for ya! With bacon.

        1. Becky says

          Dang Osama…..Now you’ve made me hungry!

          1. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Nothing sexier than a conservative woman!!!

          2. Becky says

            That I am….

            See? There you are! That’s the comment type from you I’m used to seeing! Had me confused the other day…..

      10. Mike Sidman says

        I will eat steaks if I want to, and if any “militant vegan” gets in my face over it, said individual had better have dental insurance paid up, because said asshat is going to lose some teeth, I ALSO STAND MY GROUND

      11. Btty says

        Please explain your comment.

      12. Pam Dunn says

        And where are all the “intelligent” vegetable eating animals? I’d suggest you go get a true and accurate education on nutrition INSTEAD of lefty propaganda and BULLSHYTE.

        1. baiji says

          Here is the truth from the bible on nutrition:

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany
          An all-creatures Bible Message

          Jesus’ Manifestation: Epiphany

          A Sermon Delivered to
          The Compassion Internet Church

          4 January 2015

          Frank L. Hoffman, Pastor

          Scripture References

          Psalm 72:8-20
          Proverbs 12:10
          Isaiah 60:1-6

          Jesus’ manifestation, His epiphany, should be seen in the life of every true believer.

          This is what the celebration of Epiphany Sunday, today, is supposed to be all about.

          We can see Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the children of God who live in the heavenly will of God.

          And, we can see the absence of Jesus’ manifestation in the lives of the people who live in the evil and ungodly ways of this corrupt world.

          As an example, God never thought about creating a factory farm; they were created by human beings whose god is money, and who have no empathy for the feelings and wellbeing of animals or the people who care about them.

          God did not put animals in small cages to test and experiment on them; humans do this against the heavenly will of God.

          God did not even think about putting several chickens in small cages stacked row upon row to produce more eggs; ungodly humans do this.

          God did not want the male children of the fertilized eggs of these egg laying hens to be suffocated to death or ground up alive upon hatching; only ungodly human beings do these atrocious things.

          God never wanted female pigs to be kept in crates so small that they cannot even turn around, nor did He want them to be raped to constantly keep them pregnant; only unscrupulous human beings do these things.

          God did not create cows so that their babies would be stolen from them one or two days after birth and cause the mother and child to mourn horribly for each other; only depraved human beings do these things.

          God never wanted the male calves to be kept in confinement on low iron food to keep their flesh white, and then slaughter them when they are only a few months old; only self-centered and evil people want their veal flesh and support this ungodly industry.

          And these same self-centered and evil people dine on the diseased livers of forced-fed ducks and geese and think of them as delicacies (foie gras).

          The people who do these horrible things and support these industries with their money are the ones who don’t have Jesus’ manifestation in their lives, for they prefer to follow the corrupt ways of the devil and his minions.

          But God did foresee the evil intent of the human heart and soul, if people turned away from Him, which is the reason He created us to eat only plant foods (Genesis 1:29-30), and why we are told in Proverbs 12:10…

          10. A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast [animal],
          But the compassion of the wicked is cruel.
          NASB

          Jesus’ manifestation is seen in the life of a righteous person; but Jesus’ manifestation is not seen in the life of a wicked person, even if they go to church and say they believe, or even if they say that they are born again.

          After all, isn’t Satan known as the father of lies?

          People say a lot of untruthful things when they follow the devil.

          Let’s now take a look at Psalm 72:8-19, and bring it up to date and see if we can tell who has Jesus’ manifestation in their life.

          8. May he also rule from sea to sea,
          And from the River to the ends of the earth.

          Even though this is a prayerful psalm of David for his son Solomon, we can look to the future of David’s lineage to the time of Christ, which makes Him the “he” of this psalm, for only the devil and the Lord can reign over the whole world.

          And, with the appearing of the children of God, and the second coming of Jesus, the devil will be defeated and only Jesus will reign.

          9. Let the nomads of the desert bow before him;
          And his enemies lick the dust.

          10. Let the kings of Tarshish and of the islands bring presents;
          The kings of Sheba and Seba offer gifts.

          11. And let all kings bow down before him,
          All nations serve him.

          All the peoples of the earth, including their leaders, will stop openly following the devil, and will give homage to the Lord, but even then only the true children of God will have Jesus’ manifestation evident in their lives.

          12. For he will deliver the needy when he cries for help,
          The afflicted also, and him who has no helper.

          No group cries louder, or is more afflicted, or has so few helpers than the exploited animals who suffer and die by the tens of billions every year.

          13. He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
          And the lives of the needy he will save.

          14. He will rescue their life from oppression and violence;
          And their blood will be precious in his sight;

          It is important for us to remember that these rescued lives will be both humans and animals.

          And just because this will happen in the future, it is no excuse for us to keep quiet and not do everything we can to free the whole of creation from its present corruption every day of our lives.

          15. So may he live; and may the gold of Sheba be given to him;
          And let them pray for him continually;
          Let them bless him all day long.

          This kind of true prayer and blessing only comes from those with Jesus’ manifestation in their lives.

          16. May there be abundance of grain in the earth on top of the mountains;
          Its fruit will wave like the cedars of Lebanon;
          And may those from the city flourish like vegetation of the earth.

          17. May his name endure forever;
          May his name increase as long as the sun shines;
          And let men bless themselves by him;
          Let all nations call him blessed.

          We are constantly praying that the people of the world would stop following the devil and return to following the Lord our God.

          18. Blessed be the LORD God, the God of Israel,
          Who alone works wonders.

          19. And blessed be His glorious name forever;
          And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
          Amen, and Amen.

          20. The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended.
          NASB

          But our prayers for ending the corruption of creation and for the second coming of Jesus should never end until all is fulfilled.

          With these things in mind and Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul, let’s look at Isaiah 60:1-6…

          1. “Arise, shine; for your light has come,
          And the glory of the LORD has risen upon you.

          This is the way Jesus appears.

          This is the way we also appear in our lives when we have Jesus’ manifestation in our heart and soul.

          It’s not that other people see the actual light, but that they see a godliness within us, which is expressed in our loving, compassionate, and peacemaking way of living for the benefit of the whole of creation.

          They see the presence of Jesus within us, even if they don’t acknowledge it.

          2. “For behold, darkness will cover the earth,
          And deep darkness the peoples;
          But the LORD will rise upon you,
          And His glory will appear upon you.

          Darkness has covered the earth, but with Jesus’ manifestation within us, we can overcome the darkness and bring hope to the world around us, particularly to those humans and animals that can’t speak for themselves.

          3. “And nations will come to your light,
          And kings to the brightness of your rising.

          We can change the world; we just can’t afford to give up.

          4. “Lift up your eyes round about, and see;
          They all gather together, they come to you.
          Your sons will come from afar,
          And your daughters will be carried in the arms.

          If we stand firm in our conviction to free creation from its present corruption, then others will see us and have the courage to join us.

          And more and more we will see the kingdom of heaven come to earth as it is in heaven where there is no pain, mourning, or death.

          5. “Then you will see and be radiant,
          And your heart will thrill and rejoice;
          Because the abundance of the sea will be turned to you,
          The wealth of the nations will come to you.

          6. “A multitude of camels will cover you,
          The young camels of Midian and Ephah;
          All those from Sheba will come;
          They will bring gold and frankincense,
          And will bear good news of the praises of the LORD.
          NASB

          In the day when this passage was written, camels were a mode of transportation, but it’s really only symbolic of the ways of transportation, and thankfully today we don’t “need” to use animals and exploit them; we can all live together in peace.

          We cannot afford to allow the evil darkness of this world with all its pain, suffering, bloodshed, and death overcome us; we must stand firm against it with Jesus’ manifestation shining forth from within us.

          We can and must overcome the corruption, injustice, indifference, warring madness, and animal exploitation that are so rampant in the world around us.

          We can and must live as peacemaking children of God, and diligently work at helping to free the whole of creation from its present corruption.

          We can!

          We must!

          Amen?

          Amen.

      13. maxparrish says

        Why do you people proselytize so much? Humans are omnivores, like bears. That is why our teeth are the way they are.
        Have you educated yourself about giving unsolicited advice to others? I suggest you do. Go hang with your like-minded buddies, One day you won’t be hiding behind a keyboard.

      14. Becky says

        Yeah – providing that necessary PROTEIN that helps your body build the new cells it needs.

        Know much?

    2. Taking care of business! says

      What? You don’t like fiber?

    3. mrmsjb12 says

      TASTY tastes like dog

      1. sniperbait66 says

        Hey, we ate dog in Vietnam and the Philippines, too ‘grainy’, monkey is better, especially with Banana ketchup…

        1. Becky says

          Man sniper are you TRYING to ruin my appetite? 😉

    4. sniperbait66 says

      You mean they aren’t already? I can’t afford steak, but the frozen meatballs taste just like wood chips and sawdust…I prefer the Oak sawdust, it’s spicer.

    5. James Maxwell says

      No, say it isn’t so, after all trees have feeling to and it would be cruel the kill them, but

      wait if PETA didn’t kill them how would they wipe themselves or write in their journals?
      Oh what to do, what to do?

    6. Stan Hoffman says

      dosadoe, I guess you don’t know that they are already incorporating wood cellulous in various different foods.

  5. Paula says

    If PETA ran the world: like any radical bunch of brutes who seized power, in the name of the people, they would repress the very people they claimed to champion!

  6. Taking care of business! says

    If PETA ran the world, there would be a sudden rise in cannibalism.

    1. Peter Sherman says

      that may be the planet’s eventual salvation.

      1. Taking care of business! says

        Good point, Peter.

      2. Jarhead says

        Seek help Pete – fast

        1. Peter Sherman says

          don’t knock what you haven’t tried. it would certainly change the demographics as white meat is favored over dark. of course, its all in how you prepare it. oh… about the help… yes… my therapist told me i was out of her “jurisdiction” and suggested that i need drugs. so, i went for the cheap stuff. because my i slipped past the obamacare and have no insurance and went for the kool aid… as you recognized yourself in another post. (are you a therapist yourself? clairvoyant?) But the koolaid just made things worse and i need help more than ever before. can you do me a little favor? give me your contact info and i promise not to call too often. at least not during the day. thanks jarhead… really appreciate the offer to let me call anytime i need a little support.

    2. sniperbait66 says

      I don’t think so. More like PETAcide and all the carnivores in the Zoos would be eating very well for a time. PETA must be moved to the BOTTOM of the Food Chain.

  7. talltreetrader says

    The reason that PETA exists is do to the lack of O to the brain ( That’s Oxygen to you PETA People); in order for the brain to work properly it requires natural oxygen, in order for the brain to get that oxygen the body metabolism needs an organic source of IRON. The very best source of iron is from RED MEAT ( beef, mutton, venison, elk etc.

    TheGospelTruth.us

    1. hoss50cal says

      Damn that sounds good

  8. adrianvance says

    A membership card in PETA should be ticket for the funny farm.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for spot on snark.

  9. politicallyincorrectandproud says

    when God made the world He gave man dominion over animals . It is in the Bible, longest best selling book, in the first two chapters of the book. Adam was charged with naming all the animals in The Garden of Eden.

  10. duif100 says

    We should treat PETA the way they treat animals.
    Kill them all!

  11. Peter Sherman says

    thanks… this is a great example (despite your factual errors) of why i support PETA. Just like the tea party has shifted the political discussions WAY to the right so that the new “center” is the old right… i support PETA. They help shift the discussion so that other organizations such as Environmental Defense Fund, Wilderness Society, Natural Resources Defense Council, even Greenpeace look far more reasonable. the importance of the tea party is not so much in their extremism… but in their ability to change the playing field. so too does PETA. A little more compassion in this world for those animals with which we share it (or, as the proudly politically incorrect person suggests… over which we dominate) wouldn’t be such a terrible thing (and it would bring us closer to jesus’ teaching of empathy.. for the religious minded folks).

    1. patriotdaddy says

      you are an idiot!!! tea party is here to keep our government from gaining too much power!! period!!! we do not want new liberals coming into office and doing exactly what obama is doing……running scared from a bunch of “what might be’s” PETA is a false organization committing fraud every day!!! u go ahead and support them……and when we petition them away you can go with them moron!! PETA lies and chooses their battles politically!! they are nothing but FAKES!!! if u notice….EPA use to be a regular organization like PETA….now they are an official federal agency..hmmmm PETA is trying to put themselves next in line!!! these “organizations” that become huge are nothing more than feds in sheep clothing!!! they help further an agenda that he “people” are to be dumb to……….you are 1 of those dummies!! we are all dummies if we cannot see the strategy the yare using…it is so obvious and in your face….and it is working!!! PETA and EPA must crumble!!! sign the petitions to have them removed!!!

      1. Jarhead says

        Daddy – Pete is a troll, or brain-washed, or brain-injured, on Crack or over doses Kool-Aid –
        Select any two.

        1. Peter Sherman says

          it was the kool-aid. i knew i should have gone for the water. damn…

    2. TrueAmerican says

      You sir are a friggin Retard

      1. Peter Sherman says

        yes, a TRUE AMERICAN friggin retard. and proud of it. i have finally joined the crowd after years in the hinterlands of non-retards. good to be neighbors.

    3. politicallyincorrectandproud says

      I am very compassionate to my pets. Grew up with 2 dogs as pets and now my hubby and I have 5 cats (all gotten from shelters or off the street; one started living on our porch and 2 were found in the bushes of our church) We love our animals but they do not run the house or our lives (although they may think they do ;)). but my hubby and I are Tea Party and Christian conservative and try to live our lives according to God’s plan for our lives.
      I believe that animals know how to take care of themselves …..it is called natural instinct and the more we humans try to butt in to the lives of wild animals i.e., lions, tigers bears and elephants and sea creatures the more we screw it up; wild animals can take care of themselves
      BTW I saw the pic of Trig standing on his service dog and thought it was cute. Have you all ever seen kids play with pets sometimes they get a little rough if the pet does not mind then go for it

  12. Jerry_Morgan says

    If God had meant for man to not eat animals… he would have made them from something beside… MEAT.

  13. Roger_T73 says

    My Golden Retriever Lives a wonderful life – Love, Attention, Food, Shelter and my couch to sleep on at night.
    PETA wants her to need to hunt and kill smaller animals in order to eat?
    They are all mixed up!!!

    1. maxparrish says

      You are so right. Our domesticated friend count on us. They would starve or die of exposure.

      The urban do-gooders in my metro area will try to catch prairie dogs (which are rodents and will over-populate until the ground is totally denuded) and take them east on the interstate and let them go. Right into people’s property who have cattle and horses. They don’t go far enough and let them out on the side of the road, drive off thinking that is that. Who cares about broken legs and eventual poisons to rid the infestation.

  14. Mynickelsworth says

    PETA is a anti-christian group. If they read the Bible they would find what God said about this. In Genesis 9:2,3 says that God gave every beast, fowl and fish into the hands of man and vs 3 says “Every moving thing that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you…” vs 4 indicates that ‘meat for you’ means eating of flesh.

    Not eating Meat of animals is just anti-God in that is opposes His instructions. If man did not NEED meat to eat God would have only said he gave you green herbs to eat.

    PETA and the Pro-Abortion crowd are all in the same barnyard pile in opposition to God and His LAWS.
    God said one of the reasons He destroyed Jerusalem and sent the Jews into 70 years of captivity was because, after they failed to obey Him, their king filled the streets of Jerusalem with innocent blood.
    I cannot think of any blood more innocent than the blood of unborn babies.

    1. Stan Hoffman says

      Mynickelsworth, yes God gave us animals to enjoy and to eat. But as I remember, Daniel was a vegan. So it is okay to be either. Peta on the other hand is just a bunch of reprobate radicals who solicit money from suckers so they can exist.

      1. Mynickelsworth says

        Daniel may not have been a vegan, it likely was that the Kings meat was not Kosher, i.e. prepared properly. Jewish animals had to be killed so that they bled out as much blood as possible because they were forbidden to eat the blood. But, I agree it is ok to be either and I agree on who PETA is.

        1. Stan Hoffman says

          Mynickelsworth, its true the bible doesn’t explain why Daniel didn’t eat meat. I just used it as an illustration that it is ok to be a vegan. I’m omnivorous myself and could care less what diet others eat. To me its a matter of choice. Eat what you want. But peta type people take it to an extreme and try to make others miserable and feel guilty. Its just a foolish power and control trip.

  15. absinthe says

    If PETA ran the world, our fur coats would not cost as much.

  16. James Andrews says

    If PETA ran the world, we’d be over run with rats.

    1. Jarhead says

      They taste like rabbit!

      1. James Andrews says

        I like rabbit, but we don’t want too many of any critter, period. It’s all about balance.

  17. hijinx60 says

    I LOVE animals, they’re delicious!!

    1. mac12sam12 says

      Of course! Why do you think they’re made of meat?

  18. Mark Clemens says

    If PETA ran the world……….I reckon I’d eat more women!!!!!!!!! LOL
    Every thing in this world (even you) is here for something else to eat.
    I bet cabbage gets hurt when harvested. If it’s alive Just because it doesn’t move around, don’t mean it don’t feel pain……

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      That’s cute, a little levity helps, thank you.

  19. TrueAmerican says

    Killing animals for food is the Cirrcle of Life WE in the Animal kingdom yes Humans are part of that kingdom. Not all animals eat only grass. There are grazers and there are hunters of Other Animals. If we lived in a fairy tale world like Peta & Hollywood would like us to it might be different but we are animals and we all have One thing in common, Survival so we eat Meat And Grass. Sp Peta & Vegans please keep your opinions to yourself.

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      No doubt you have heard about the vegan dog abusers that slowly destroy their pets bodies by making them vegan. Yes, but PETA doesn’t think having pet dogs is humane. They want to liberate the canine and feline back to the wild state. Where they will die out in horrific and painful misery.

  20. TrueAmerican says

    And to all you Muslims out there PORK is GOOD to eat. So please have a slab of Bacon.

    1. sniperbait66 says

      Hey, I’ve treated many Muslim ‘friends’ to the wonders of Bacon. All you have to do is start cooking that wondrous meat with a Muslim within scenting distance…One of them said:” What IS that fabulous odor?” the rest, is as they say “History”. Not all Muslims are crazy stupid you know…

    2. politicallyincorrectandproud says

      roflmao

    3. Stan Hoffman says

      TrueAmerican, I raised hogs in my younger days. So I have no problem with slaughtering and eating them in this country. But if I lived in the many 3world nations that muslims come from, I’d refuse to eat pork. Their living conditions are filthy and they don’t know how to treat for worms and parasites. But they are to ignorant to understand that and so they are scared of it.

    4. Nellie says

      Lean pork is good for you. Bacon is almost all fat but I have to admit it taste good. When you are young maybe you work it off but as you get older even exercise doesn’t help.

  21. uptohere says

    If all animals were free from human influence, they would go after people who kill plants.

  22. Patriot47 says

    Brain dead hypocrites.

  23. Mark says

    As was noted in the article, PETA is a joke and a haven for those with no lives for one excuse or another.

  24. sniperbait66 says

    PETA is the poster child for Mentally “Challenged”.

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      Mostly it is a money making racket

  25. sniperbait66 says

    Pretentious Extremists Trampling All others rights.

  26. yaki534 says

    I belong to PETA, People Eating Tasty Animals. PETA exterminates more dogs and cats than you can imagine. They are ethical???

  27. Bullfrogman says

    They should have open season on PETA

  28. Mike Homes says

    I love animals. I don’t want people to hurt them. But, sometimes they have to be killed. I know, I know. Who likes killing? I don’t want to say because I might be labeled something and my feelings would be hurt. I figure if a dog attacks me for trying to pet him, I have to be in the wrong. Who am I to try to pick ticks out of his ears? He has the right to attack me. He should attack me if you think too hard about it.

  29. Lizardlouaz says

    Who funds these Idiots ???

  30. Marilyn Stern says

    In too many instances PETA has become ridiculous, just as many organizations have when they think they are more important than they are and that their word should be accepted, unconditionally. They will be their own downfall.

  31. Archangel says

    There is a disease debilitating this country referred to as LIBERALISM, and it shares many of the same basic tenets of Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism and Communism. The most common and obvious symptoms of this disease is the overwhelming need of the infected individual to constantly exhibit an unbridled penchant to champion one ludicrous cause after the next with complete indifference and disregard to the consequences of their actions!

    It is relatively simple to diagnose.

    When an individual begins to babble on incoherently, spewing delusional drivel regarding the need for
    egalitarianism, or the need to deprive everyone of Rights to which they object, or the need to make someone else’s life as miserable as their own, or the need to redistribute the income of American’s who actually work for a living, or the wonders of the Tyranny of Unions, Collectivism and a Marxist Socialist Dystopia, or they begin to banter about virulent terms like denier, racist, bigot, homophobe, islamaphobe, misogynist, sexist, xenophobe, natavist, “White Privilege”, Hands up, Don’t shoot or I can’t breathe you can be assured that individual has an extremely severe case of LIBERALISM!

    Other symptoms that have been exhibited by those who have had prolonged exposure to the disease of Liberalism is that they develop an uncanny need to lie, to distort the facts, to distort the truth, ignore common sense, rely upon abstract logic and to orchestrate and foment political hysteria, civil unrest, racial divisiveness and chaos at every opportunity for which they can take advantage!

    Additionally, another common trait associated with the disease of Liberalism is that individuals who have contracted the disease become highly unstable, extremely violent and easily agitated while resorting to incoherent and disparaging remarks toward those who are immune to the disease!

    Fortunately, AMERICAN’S are immune to this disease which is spread rampantly between the useless, mindless, weak willed, spineless, mediocre, Democrats, Liberals and Progressives along with the rest
    of the freeloading reprobates, ingrates and degenerates constantly looking for someone else to blame for the complete failure of their delusional sociopolitical ideologies and their miserable lives!

    In fact, the disease of liberalism has now metastasized to the extent that liberals have become so indoctrinated by their own delusional ideologies and rhetorical drivel that they are no longer content to
    simply hate everyone with whom they disagree, the disease has now evolved to the extent that liberals have begun to despise their very own existence!

    Much like the disease of Syphilis, Lunacy is the inevitable consequence of Liberalism; unfortunately, the only remedy for this malady requires the infected individual to acquire logic, reason and common sense
    which for all intents and purposes precludes any possible cure for those who have already contracted the disease of Liberalism aside from voluntary euthanasia!

    Voluntary euthanasia is highly recommended!

  32. Mike Sidman says

    If PETA ran the world, I would not only defy them, I would engage in REVOLUTION, with one mission, to VIOLENTLY OVERTHROW THEM.

  33. OSAMA OBAMA says

    Why are all of these bat crazy orgs. run by libTURDS?? HOPE AND CHANGE!! YES WE CAN!

  34. R Jeffrey Savlov says

    I have a suite reserved for them at the Waldorf Hysteria

  35. Joe T says

    Excerpt from article….couldn’t pass it up….hence

    We have Obama running the world

    When PETA raises a stink about something as stupid as Palin’s photo, people just shake their heads and laugh. But when you do, remember that PETA’s aims are destructive and dangerous to the human race. It’s laudable to care about the “ethical treatment of animals,” but we must never compromise the future of humanity for the sake of appeasing the lunatic left. – See more at: https://www.fixthisnation.com/conservative-breaking-news/

  36. staberdearth says

    PETA = HYPOCRITES and emotional showboaters. but they scarcely see it for in their warped minds, the means are justified by the ends. But really…what are their ends? They are not very well thought through.

    Success by PETA? Probably the eating of recycled human feces by all humans. Even then this sick group would not be satisfied for they’d say there would be remnants of animals in the PETA version of soylent green….

  37. tinkerunique says

    What about veggies, they get killed when they are yanked out of the ground.

    1. Marcia Mueller says

      Again, according to ethologist Konrad Lorenz, anyone who doesn’t know the difference between and animal and a plant should commit suicide for the good of humanity.

  38. Pam Dunn says

    Where was PETA’s OUTRAGE over the thousands of dogs they killed at their PET SHELTERS?
    Nothing but a bunch of money grubbing two faced greedy pigs.

  39. Eric Reicher says

    I was just thinking about goin to the butcher and picking up some New York strip steaks

  40. Arthur says

    Sarah Palin is dangerous, and that “tribe” she calls family….

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      That is just freaky. Your kind are dangerous.

  41. valc says

    PETA needs to be put down. Like any rabid animal.

  42. privae times says

    PETA just try and come get my best friend and family member. Just try

  43. benevolus says

    Animal activists should be rounded up end sent to prison farms and ranches, where they could either work “exploiting” animals and eating a meat/dairy-heavy diet, or spend 23 hours a day in solitary, eating vegan nutraloaf with no books, TV, radio, or internet.

  44. Becky says

    Ahhh I was getting worried. Your last two words finally said it all.

  45. Et Snell says

    If PETA ran the world it would only be a matter of time before we could marry our animals.

    1. Jarhead says

      Please don’t give the LGBTQ perverts any more ideas.

  46. Et Snell says

    If PETA ran the world it would only be a matter of time before people could marry there animals.

  47. Eli Charlie Noseworthy says

    Who the he’ll does PETA think they are kidding ??? They are the PURVEYORS ELIMINATING TROUBLED ANIMALS !!!! They kill thousands of helpless animals, it’s about time they were called out and put in their place, they have have caused as much trouble for animals and people as OBAMA-HO has !!!!!

  48. Marcia Mueller says

    Yeah, and if the kid makes a misstep and hurts the dog or keeps climbing on him when he gets too heavy and the dog bites, then there will probably be hell to pay from the oblivious mom who didn’t teach her son how to act around the dog. If the child can’t be taught how to behave better with the dog, then they should find a better home.

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      PETA is a racket. A Racket. It will be exposed.

  49. Et Snell says

    What is PETA’S opinion on gay dogs. I sure hope people can not ever marry animals. Slow your roll PETA

  50. David says

    Yes, we would have more tasty animals to eat……..Keith, I like your mirror analogy….Truth hurts huh peta patters….

  51. Phil F says

    PETA is a thin disguise for a gun control group.

    1. Marcia Mueller says

      Now I get why so many guys hate PETA.

      1. Joyce Clemons says

        Plenty of women hate them too. It’s not just about the hunting and guns, it goes way further than that.

  52. Carole says

    I SUPPORT PETA. If people didn’t mistreat animals then peta wouldn’t be needed. So change your ways people and treat animals with kindness.

    1. Joken Joe says

      I prefer to treat them steak sauce and potatoes.

    2. Joyce Clemons says

      If PETA had sense and self control, they wouldn’t be so despised. The fact is, they promote the bizarre idea that animal “rights” trump human rights across the board, and guess what, it is just YOUR opinion that PETA is needed. Founded in March 1980. Wow…it only took 35 years for the group to show it’s full stupidity. But it began pissing in it’s own Post Toasties long before this. If I were one of the gullible people that bought this wooden nickel, I would be very embarrassed. but I got clued in early, around 1988, or so, when PETA tried to hostile take-over our county’s humane society, and tried put a stop to 4H harness racing and dressage. Why? Because you “shouldn’t make animals work”. Jesus.

  53. Sam says

    PETA has no concern for starving children here in the USA because they are focused on animals here in the USA that are fed so well many of them have to be placed on DIETS because they are so overweight they have difficulty getting up and walking….GET REAL, PEOPLE! I have 2 hounds and they eat as well as I do….but that does not excuse me from being supportive of charitable organizations making sure children with critical needs are being cared for first and better than animals. Would you like some cheese with your whine?

  54. Miguel Sanchez says

    PETA. People Encuraging Terrorist Attacks. They should be labeled as terrorist to tell you the truth. If they find a facility that does research on animals they burn it or destroy it &terrorize the employee’s. It’s time shut them down NRA, hunter’s, fisher men & women, farmers, ranchers and breeders must unite to stop these terrorist. They have damaged our economy enough let’s make a Stand and put an end to the terrorists in our nation. Long live American and the Constitution .

  55. Nellie says

    PETA must very angry at God and would probably sue Him for asking for all those animal sacrifices in the Bible. Oh wait, isn’t it OK if God commands it. I know Jesus didn’t like them sold in front of Temple and rightfully so but sacrifices was the custom. My cousin donated cattle for a church raffle to raise money for the poor people and church repairs after a big storms. I hope PETA didn’t hear about that or they would have a new category; animal slavery.

    1. Joyce Clemons says

      They already do have that category.

      1. Nellie says

        That is crazy and what pray tell are they doing about human slavery in the world. I guess that’s OK. Now I don’t want animals abused but people have eaten animals since they were able to hunt them. People are losing their common sense and going off the deep end.

  56. bobwhite says

    They are all mentally ill people with far too much time on their hands.

  57. johnm says

    I still like the term “PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals”

  58. adrianvance says

    PETA is a disease carried by liberalism and invokes by Ph.D. college professors.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  59. Morton212 says

    Cruelty to animals has been identified as sadist trait in humans that transitions seamlessly to violence against fellow humans. Consequently, the FBI now collects statistics on people that cross that line. PETA, like all single purpose organizations can become disproportionately enraged at what they perceive to be cruelty. However, on balance they do a fantastic job in exposing sadists among us.

  60. Mr Charlie Chan says

    PETA: People Eating The Animals.One doesn’t have far to travel to see who the nuts are.

  61. Mike Lawson says

    PETA is the same organization that advocated dressing up as hunters, and then shooting farm animals in the hopes they could turn farmers against hunters. Great logic there!

  62. Shauna says

    All this talk about meat……..seriously???? I’ll take a kobe steak, rare, with a good glass of red to wash it down…thanks. ( salivating)……but on the treatment of pets, I think if your going to decide to add a animal to your home, treat it properly!! They are unconditional love and pets deserve the same….be responsible for it….pets are awesome! ok, that’s all I got to say that bout that……..

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