Is This the First Step to a Federal Gun Registry?

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Hawaii has just passed a bill that would require state officials to enter all firearm owners into an FBI database, a step that could put the nation on the road to a federal gun registry.

“This is an extremely dangerous bill,” said NRA spokesperson Amy Hunter. “Exercising a constitutional right is not inherently suspicious. Hawaii will now be treating firearms as suspect and subject to constant monitoring.”

The bill is currently awaiting the governor’s signature. If it becomes law, Hawaii will begin sharing gun owners with the federal government, placing those names in a FBI database called the Rap Back. This is a list of individuals in “positions of trust,” including schoolteachers and those who work with the elderly.

Proponents of the bill (and a federal gun registry) claim that a centralized database would enable police to trace crime scene weapons back to their owners. This argument seems sensible. It suffers from only one small flaw: It isn’t true.

How do we know this? John Lott, Jr., a prominent gun-rights expert, explained the flaw in a Fox News editorial:

Criminals seldom make the mistake of leaving behind guns that are registered to themselves. In the few cases where registered guns are left at the scene, it is because the criminals have already been killed or injured. And these guns are virtually never registered to the person who committed the crime.

Critics will say that it doesn’t matter. If we can use this registry to solve even one crime a year, it’s worth it.

But this ignores the dangers inherent in such a registry. When the Obama administration is actively seeking to take guns away from seniors and military veterans without due process, we cannot afford to be naive.

Gun control fanatics are not stupid. They know measures like universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole, federal registries, and assault rifle bans will not bring down the rate of American gun violence. These are efforts designed to inch us closer to the only “gun control” laws that will make a difference: Mass disarmament.

465 Comments
  1. James Andrews says

    NO, because We The People will never allow that to happen! And if they ever try to pass one, it will be defied.

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    2. Bruce Kellar says

      If that were true James, there would be no discussion on the subject and liberals would never be voted into office. We the people are mostly now, “We the Sheeple” will follow the trail of freeebies wherever it leads.

      1. Gerry Costa says

        Speak for yourself – Bruce. I don’t follow any trail of anything this POS administration or the libtards have to offer as bait.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker says

          You are jobless, on welfare and sucking up phony SSDI right CON man? Or maybe you had to shut down one of those fly by night businesses you owned when you got caught for fraud? You boys are a real joke. Your days of playing King of the Crooks is ending and you can’t take it can you coward boy?

          1. David says

            Eleanore!!!! Now calm down and take your meds. It won’t be long and then your New Jersey boy Donald will be our President.

          2. Skeeter Ash says

            As I read this and see how this Eleanore lacks common sense and logic. When you can’t read the facts and lose your point you resort to accusations which have no merit, and them name calling. I am shocked you didn’t pull the race card yet but I’m sure that is in your powerless bag of liberal tricks given you by the socialists liberals you love so much. You are exactly what is wrong with this country presently and the lack of proper education on the Constitution just like your beloved Bam is pathetic! If you don’t like guns move to a country that doesn’t have a second amendment. In case you didn’t know that would be the rest of the world, the choice is yours.

        2. Bruce Kellar says

          Your snide remark is exactly the point of my comment. I made a comment about liberals and you became snarky and personal, you must be a layabout. Only liberals discuss a subject by calling folks names and using inuendo to make a point. You are likely an anarchist intent on academia rather than American helping to lead the fray toward a positive outcome or you just haven’t had time to mature into a logical debate.

        3. Bruce Kellar says

          Neither do I. Your cast of aspersions on is a liberal technique to defame and silence others rather than to comment on an opinion. This is beneath a true conservative to which you claim to aspire towards. I do speak for myself utilizing common sense approaches to reach a logical conclusion based on facts rather than rhetoric. Your objective may be conservative however your approach is not. Lest we be mindless idiots as liberals appear to be we should temper our remarks. Have a nice day!

      2. James Andrews says

        Good points Bruce…we’re all pretty much on the same page.

    3. MAHB001 says

      Not true, look at CA… There are MANY unconstitutional laws on the books.. The legislator basically ignores the Second Amendment, The Courts will call a law unconstitutional, and the Sheriffs AND the legislator ignore the courts.

      1. James Andrews says

        Many gun laws are unconstitutional, for sure.

        1. Retired Marine says

          Leave off the M on many and you nail it.

        2. Robert says

          ALL laws on guns INFRINGE on the 2nd! Even a permit to carry, which is “permission” from the state to exercise a true RIGHT (As opposed to government “given” right– which is a PRIVILEGE)

      2. ringostarr1 says

        It is like Stalin asked when the Pope denounced the imprisonment and murder of Soviet citizens, “How many divisions does the Pope have in HIS army?

      3. Fedup says

        But those laws did nothing to prevent the mass shootings in CA expect provide the shooters a guarantee of a “gun free zone”.

        1. MAHB001 says

          The ONLY goal of ANY gun law proposed is the disarming of America..

          1. Fedup says

            Not arguing with that. I cannot understand why liberals believe that more laws are going to make the criminals suddenly start obeying those laws. A look at those cities/states /countries with the strictest gun control laws tells anyone with a working brain cell that disarming the public does not mean disarming the criminals. Besides, like was already stated, if some wackadoodle is hell bent on killing people, every chemical used to make a bomb is readily available to be purchased by anyone without any kind of background check or any need to document who is buying what.

            Is it true that CA now requires a background check to buy ammo? Does that include all reloading materials too?

  2. David Stewart says

    Please do not fret yourselves; this behavior comes from a state(?) that only recently was forced to treat ALL it’s citizens equally under law, and is obviously in contention for first place in the looney state contest (with California, of course)!

    1. Retired Marine says

      It only takes a grain of sand to start an avalanche.

  3. Conservative says

    All this talk about gun control and yet they have not lifted a finger to confront and do something about the murders in the black, Democratic controlled cities where the majority of firearms are stolen.

  4. MAHB001 says

    Those states that refuse to abide by the Constitution should be forced from the Union….

    We now have to have a zero tolerance towards all incremental laws that erode the Second Amendment.

    1. Laddyboy says

      MAHB001: I would not go as far as expelling the State. Expelling the COMMUNISTS in that State, YES. Also the funds (TAXES) in the other law abiding States should not be diverted into these LOONY States that are NOT following the LAWS OF THE LAND!!!!! This includes “sanctuary” states, cities and communities (counties).

      1. MAHB001 says

        I am on board with that… But, I must say, I live in CA, and the legislature is emboldened by each unconstitutional law that is passed.

        The more they get away with, the more they will do.

        I fear the election process is so corrupt that We the People no longer elect our officials… They are more or less appointed by the system. If the Federal Government does not do something about it, CA certainly will not.

        1. Barbedwire says

          You are totally correct. Gov’t programs, added, are never eliminated, the expansion only continues. It will have to be a huge effort on the part of the majority; but this destruction of our nation built on “limited gov’t” is disappearing fast under libs/progs/far lefts/dems. The fact that hillary “supposedly” still wins POTUS in all polls = someone either so stupid/lazy or corrupt, should never be near leadership/power. NEVER HILLARY.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Our election system is corrupt…. Hillary counts the votes… All the MEDIA has to do is get enough people to “THINK” that it is going to be a close election and Hillary’s vote counters will make it so.

            In short, Hillary counts the votes.

            “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
            —-Joseph Stalin

            Hillary could never win a fair election.

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          4. Fedup says

            I thought Trump was leading Hillary in some polls? I’ve seen commercials where they are cherry picking things he says and I keep hoping Trump will start exposing all the times she says she has never faltered in her support of this or that with proof of her changing her stance over the years. The gay marriage issue and NAFTA would be a start.

          5. Btty says

            The problem with California is they have stacked the deck in favor of the commie liberal party. I don’t think you will ever see Ca be a Republican state again. I was born and raised here and watched this beautiful state go from thriving and productive under Republican leadership to a nanny state with sanctuary cities under democrat/commie leadership. It’s sickening and I haven’t even started on voter fraud.

        2. myfordtruck says

          Thats right yall are having the problem with the dead and noncitizens voting here in Fl. we have had the problem with illegal vote counts and some dead voters but they did a voter purge this and last year that got rid of a lot of them

          1. Elaine says

            I hope it worked. Voter fraud seems to be like a bad rash that won’t go away. You think you’ve got it cleared up, but it keeps creeping back.

          2. myfordtruck says

            thats for sure here you are supposed to show voter ID cards but I Don,t know if they make They mail my Wife’s and My ballots to the house and before you mail it back you sign a inside envelope and when they open it they compare to the one on file and you have to update file every so often I know they do it because I got called to go verifie mine one time

          3. Sgt. York says

            Voter IDs are another way of stopping the dead of voting four or five times per voting places.

          4. Mark Lahti says

            Same day registration is also a big culprit in the illegal voting bag of tricks. I’ve seen it first hand in the last two POTUS elections as a poll observer. They drive groups of people around in large vans from one polling place to another with a letter or a utility bill or whatever they need to same day register. Then they get a slip of paper to go vote. The system is designed to promote illegal and corrupt voting.

          5. pj4me says

            And as long as dems are in power they will never stop the voter fraud and they will never stop bringing in new illegal Democraps. Right now the electoral process is a disadvantage to Repubs. Dems have a larger electoral college for the general election. A repub would have to be able to flip a state from blue to red — swing states too.

          6. Betterbob says

            Did you report it?

          7. Taz_man says

            O but that is racist and we can’t do that.Yea right.but that won’t last long with places . who allows you to vote with only your Driver’s L and they let illegals drive.same way with ID’s it would be given to them.
            I get so tired of hearing I’m not voting this time ,my one vote won’t count any way.
            People think of it this way You vote it counts as one vote you don’t vote it counts as 2 votes. One vote balances out one vote but no vote gives the other side the same as 2 votes. and one vote times 10,000 means alot.

          8. Sgt. York says

            But you must have a I’d,drivers licence to drive,buy a gun get medicare or retire and get SS. It’s the dummycrats and socialists who have worked the blacks and illegals to fight this as racist. The dang government wants cheating whether your dummycrat or rubberhead. The people don’t amount to a pile of horse crap in the eyes of the Gov.

          9. Betterbob says

            Hasn’t happened.

          10. Sgt. York says

            Two things we need Term Limits and voter ID. We here in AlaBama do have voted I D so it works fine

          11. Betterbob says

            I know, I live in Alabama.

          12. MAHB001 says

            They replaced dead voters with illegal alien voters.

        3. daveveselenak says

          Sheeple need to find a pair and start forming State Militias as the constitution permits US!

        4. pj4me says

          I too live in CA. Gov Moonbeam will stop at nothing to support BO’s liberal agenda.
          As far as the election process? You’re right. We vote; they decide.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Go to http://www.electionintegrityproject.com and give them any support you can.

            If We the People don’t take back the election process in CA, the entire nation will follow….

            They are expanding the corruption as we speak….

        5. Betterbob says

          If they are unconstitutional sue them to get the law overturned.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Easier said than done. The corruption is so bad here in CA that it will take time, and that is something We the People really doesn’t have anymore.

          2. Betterbob says

            Your only choices are live with the law, challenge the law in court or find legislators who will try to have it repealed. All take time. That’s it.

          3. MAHB001 says

            Nuts.

      2. ward says

        The state put the asinine commies in power that support a dictatorship over the U.S. Citizens so they deserve to be prosecuted for treason & any dereliction of duty … !

      3. Americans Wake Up says

        If we expel all states that are making unconstitutional laws then we should expel Obama. the House and the Senate.

        1. Barbedwire says

          Peaceful overthrow?? It is time. Convention of states was talked about years ago… and I don’t know WHY it hasn’t moved forward.

      4. Rick01234 says

        That’s going to end soon, no more funds for the cities and counties that offer sanctuary to illegal’s. You often hear accusations of race when hearing that race card on illegal’s being here, but being Hispanic isn’t a race issue, it’s their hidden cop out for claiming being Hispanic is a race. It’s an ethinic group identity issue, and let’s get past this, there is only one racial group we must all identify with, as human beings. The race card doesn’t play very well anymore.

        1. Barbedwire says

          By the time obama leaves office, the race card will be worn out; and minorities will probably blame it on a white POTUS?? In reality, it means nothing now. I saw “racism” called on the gorilla being shot: black gorilla and white privilege child… ah, until the idiots learned it was a black child…duh. Like I said, overused.

      5. Sgt. York says

        That’s expelling most all 95% of Calif,and the N. Eastern states

        1. Laddyboy says

          Sgt. York: At least 85%. Business would be booming again without the communists’ rules that they claim are laws.

      6. Betterbob says

        So you would expel someone who is a born American citizen from his own country because of a political affiliation. Isn’t that what Hitler did?

        1. Laddyboy says

          NOPE! I would just expel those not born in America back to the country they came from. ESPECIALLY if they are in America as an ILLEGAL ALIEN FOREIGN NATIONAL CRIMINAL.
          Hitler JUST – – – KILLED – – – those he did not like or agree with.. So! What do you do? OH! I know! You just beat up those you do not agree with or like as the “THUGS” did in Kalifornia at the TRUMP RALLY..

          1. Betterbob says

            How about when chump supporters beat up people at chump rallies.

            Now you said quote ‘xpelling the COMMUNISTS in that State, YES.” Now your saying no. Which is it?

            Guess you don’t know.

          2. Laddyboy says

            Betterbob: The only chumps I see are PROTESTING Public meetings that they disagree with and are destroying property and assaulting other People. I am also reading about the Chumps who are supporting the COMMUNIST/DemocRAT CRIMINAL WOMAN who is running for the President’s Office. UBELIEVABLE!!!! I am not talking about the other Communist DemocRAT. OH! Sorry, Socialist.

          3. Betterbob says

            Looks like your definition of terms is about as bad as your typing. You can call people all the names you want , just as I call a certain person the chump, but at the end of the day you have said nothing that is either true or constructive. You complain a lot but what do you do to help solve the problem? Anyone can make up names. It does not take any intelligence to do that.

          4. Laddyboy says

            It has not been enlightening to converse with you. You have not shed any light on your comments that make any COMMON SENSE in this REAL world. I hope you have a wonderful life in La-La-Land. End of conversation.

          5. Betterbob says

            I make a lot better sense in this world than you ever will.

    2. Jimmy Quick says

      …should be attacked by the U.S. military and their governments over thrown. Then the traitors should be tried for treason and properly disposed of.

      1. ringostarr1 says

        Incineration will produce too much Green House Gas and burial at sea will discombobulate the whales. Tell us oh Liberal one, how do you intend to PROPERLY dispose of all the dead American bodies that Eleanore Whitaker and yourself hope to create?

        1. Jimmy Quick says

          Ringo… I thought you had that thing where you walk around talking to yourself all straightened out.

          Guess your just due for a relapse?

    3. Eleanore Whitaker says

      Good. So that means the U.S. Constitution Article I, Section 8 that states, CONGRESS shall have the power to “Provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States.”

      So, all those who now believe they are militia better make sure they are organized, armed and disciplined by CONGRESS who is the ONLY entity that has that power.

      If dangerous toxic chemicals have to be federally registered because they are lethal to human, why should a bunch of two bit Mutton Chops and Corn Pone Hicks be allowed to roam about playing Rambo.

      And, I take serious issue with allowing ANYONE to own a gun who is on welfare. That means at least 10 of the southern and Midwestern states who have the highest records of welfare and phony SSDI claims.

      1. MAHB001 says

        That is just one interpretation of what a Militia means… I might add that it is the one that desperate gun grabbers hold on to, as they redefined the term militia to suit their needs. The term Militia when written into the Constitution, meant an army of soldiers who are civilians… Or just plan Citizens trained to use guns.

        See how the mutton chops are the ones holding the balance of power between We the People and a tyrannical government… You better hope their training is true…

        Our Government doesn’t seem to be following Article 1 section 8 anymore… As it also says…

        US Constitution Article 1, Section 8 – Powers of Congress

        The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

        Which means that 0bama is NOT applying 0bamacare per the constitution…. uniformly…

        1. Eleanore Whitaker says

          What a jackass you are!..That isn’t “just one interpretation.” It IS what is in the U.S. Constitution. Hate it don’t you?

          The term militia is defined throughout the U.S. Constitution as it was stated in Article I, Sec. 8. You gun freaks have YOUR interpretation so you can play with guns.

          The citation of U.S. Constitution was thoroughly vetted by the SC and Obama had every right to apply the ACA to the constitution, here’s why: “WE the people of the United States, in order to form a more “perfect” Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH this Constitution for the United States of America.” The Preamble BS boy.

          How do you promote the general welfare when half of the country has NO healthcare insurance they can actually afford? How do you provide for the common defence when a nation is sick and unable to defend itself thanks to lack of healthcare.

          You can BS all you like but your interpretations are NOT what the U.S. Constitution SAYS. And, it is high time you BS artists stopped trying to freeload off the rest of us. Pay for your own goddamn healthcare insurance and stop jacking the cost of my premiums.

          As for the Constitution uniformity. Again you BS artists have your own version. Article II, Sec. 2 to whit: The President shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army, Navy of the United States and of the “MILITIA” …You and your CON men have effed up two democratic presidency with your belligerence, your bullying and your BS interpretation that suit your back room agendas to get all the freebies you can while you can. Time’s up, pallie…time to break a sweat for what you want like the rest of us had to do for nearly 5 decades. Get off that lazy Corn Pone or Mutton Chop butt and get a life.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Horse Shit Liberal…

            Your slight of hand word tricks are unconstitutional and dangerous.

            This is what the Constitution says….

            Amendment II

            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

            To interpret for you weak minded liberals.

            A well trained Civilian population is necessary to keep the people free from a tyrannical State.

            The Second Amendment is ALL about the balance of power between the people that have the power and the State of which the people entrust with the power.

          2. Retired Marine says

            Spot on.

          3. Eleanore Whitaker says

            Retired Marine..Come to NJ armed like Rambo and your retired ass will end up in jail. We don’t want or need your kind in our state. All that military bullhead BS is just that.

          4. Robert says

            Everytime I go to the COMMUNIST State of Jersey, I make sure I won’t be a victim, I come fully armed even with HOLLOW POINTS! It is my CONSTITUTIONAL right, from God , not from my government. The Constitution LIMITS government, not the people. When a government “gives” you a right, it can take that right away. Therefore it is NOT a right, it is a PRIVILEGE.

          5. Mark Clemens says

            Be careful, I read a story about 2 years back.
            A woman from Philadelphia drove into New Jersey. By Pennsylvania law she was 100% compliance. I think she had a pistol. For some minor traffic offence she got pulled over, declared the Gun to the NJ Police Officer.
            He took her to jail, because NJ does not recognize a PA concealed carry permit (you have to have one of theirs). I never saw/read what the out come of the case was.

          6. Robert says

            Governor Christie gave her a pardon. It was removed from her record as it was a felony charge. A couple years back, a woman, I think from Tennessee, had a permit, and was in NYC ,and had approached a venue there that was posted NO FIREARMS ALLOWED sign. She went and found a police officer and asked if he could hold it while she visited this venue. He immediately arrested her. Eventually I believe they had pity on her stupidity and dropped the charges. Guess she wasn’t versed in the Liberal ways of NYC, which is like NJ and D.C.., and Shitcago. Only the elite can carry there!

          7. Mark Clemens says

            I always wondered what happened to the Philadelphia Woman.
            Dale Hollow is in Clay County, just outside of Celina. If you go there find HUNTERS LODGE. They have it all from nice solo rooms to 3 floor Log Cabins overlooking the lake. They have a boat ramp semi private beach. I have fished the Buffalo River in Hickman County a few times, also I use to have a cabin off I40 at Cuba Landing. .

          8. Robert says

            Thanks, will check it out. Good luck!

          9. Merle Dickey says

            You just explained your hate, New Jersey !!! The state of the wanna be mafia creatures . ( And they own guns )

          10. Retired Marine says

            My kind? The kind that fights for it’s country’s freedoms to allow fools like you to demonize us? My kind doesn’t want anything to do with your kind, we throw out our trash, and they become you. Why would I want to go to a state with trash like you running around? Your pathetic.

          11. David says

            Thank you for your response to the spinster from New Jersey. You will find out that she is a spiteful, shrill and vicious handful. She has a really foul mouth as well.

          12. Eleanore Whitaker says

            And here he is folks, David the mental case from the Alien Planet Bullshit. Trust your senses…David has NOTHING to post but he gets paid to sit day after day posting BS he knows he can’t prove with legal documents. Try again Davy Cockette

          13. David says

            Eleanore!!!! “legal documents”? I didn’t know we were in trial. My proof consists of your idiotic posts.

          14. Retired Marine says

            Like you? A lying shrew who doesn’t understand what she reads? I just laugh at you, pathetic trash.

          15. Kevin says

            Yes, and with “liberal doses” of sexual innuendo thrown in as well. But, then, that’s usually what leftist commies are obsessed with … just remember all the pervert edicts this administration has spewed out – “the bathroom bill” comes to mind, as well as homosexual “marriage,” etc. Her entire tirade was filled with illogical and ignorant interpretations, such as that “promoting the general welfare” is impossible when half the population had no healthcare?!!What kind of socialized medicine existed back in the 1700s? I think Washington and Madison would be astonished to see what a bunch of lunatics are now living in this country!

          16. Eleanore Whitaker says

            Horseshit Face, I posted from the U.S. Constitution. No matter how hard you try, you cannot interpret the Constitution so you can play Rambo. That is an “amendment” …Hey moron! Do you know what the word amendment means? It means an addition, not a subtraction from Article I, Sec. 8 and wow…don’t you bitchy boys hate that?

            A well regulated militia…is not a single guy who decides to don cammos and play Rambo in public streets I pay for. Get your Stars and Bars Hick asses out of public places. The Second Amendment was never intended to do more than extenuate Article I, Sec. 8. You don’t need power. You need a mental hospital. If you assholes had YOUR way, you’d be littering every schools, street and home with guns. What the hell are you chicken livered chickens afraid of? That someone would get pissed off when you go poking a gun in their face to show ass?

          17. Robert says

            You have a pleasant vocabulary. Did you go to a government run school? Your parents should have paddled your bottom and washed your mouth out with some Ivory soap. You do know that Liberalism is a mental disorder, and could be considered a disease by now? ( everything is always being changed in a Liberal utopia ya know!)

          18. Americans Wake Up says

            Or paddled her mouth and washed her bottom out with soap.

          19. Robert says

            That would be more effective!! Good one.

          20. JoJo Gunn says

            What are you afraid of? You can choose not to exercise your right to bear arms… But you have NO right to make that choice for others… Your understanding of the point of the second amendment is flawed. To yield the power of the militia to the govt is antithetical to the point of having a militia to begin with.. But if your so empowered to tell me what my rights are.. Then have the balls to back with action your values and beliefs… COME AND TAKE ‘EM!!! You and your ilk are not Americans… Your american by geograghy only.. You haven’t the values or the spine to be American. You and your ilk are the enemy of this nation and it’s values. And when the cleansing begins, and it will, you will damn sure want to exercise your 2nd then! Or maybe you’ll trust your benefactors to protect you. Guess you’ll have to.. You lack the courage to sacrifice for your beliefs.. Because the truth is.. You don’t have any beliefs that weren’t formed for you and hand fed you by your benefactors. Be gone liberal zombie.. Your day of atonement is coming, and that right soon!

          21. Merle Dickey says

            I am really glad you don’t own a gun . I think you are the most filthy mouth person I have seen yet on the Internet . Go take a Xanax or something

          22. MAHB001 says

            You think it is the militia that runs rampant in the streets… Fool. Criminals use guns for criminal activities… Your laws don’t effect them, never have never will.

            You are dumber than I thought… AND a total MORON to think that one person on these posts actually believes your BS, Anti Gun Laws effect law abiding citizens, and are only designed to disarm law abiding citizens.

            The gun unconstitutional laws you propose and liberal progressive politicians pass serve only ONE purpose.

            That is to disarm law abiding citizens….

            Ask yourself why does our Government want to disarm law abiding citizens?

            The answer is simple…We need only look into the Communists past.

            “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
            —-Lenin

          23. ABO says

            No offense MAHB, but please don’t waste your time on that sick, twisted POS Eleanor Witless. Huge waste of time and effort. Great response however.

          24. Retired Marine says

            Succinctly stated and true, well said.

          25. David says

            Eleanore!!!! We have been down this road before. Do you not remember our discussion of the term “militia” as used in the U.S. Constitution? It is NOT defined in the Constitution. However, as I told you, we look at 1) the way the word was used in the late 1700s; 2) the intent of the Framers; 3) how the word has been used in later Federal Regulations; and, 4) the interpretation of the Supreme Court. All of these have consistently defined “militia” as being all able-bodied men capable of bearing arms. I have given you the cites to the Supreme Court rulings and the writings of Mason and Jefferson.
            Do you forget this? Or, have you failed to take your medications today?

          26. Robert says

            She sounds like she has Toilettes Syndrome. Such a filthy mouth. Sure shows her IQ level.

          27. Americans Wake Up says

            She has a short temper- short memory. Short on brain cells also.

          28. MAHB001 says

            You can not awaken someone who pretends to be asleep…

            Eleanore does not want to hear your wise words, so…. she will continue to pretend to be asleep.

          29. David says

            Or, mentally comatose.

          30. 24tigerlily says

            “How do you promote the general welfare when half of the country has NO healthcare insurance they can actually afford?”

            YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION – OBAMACARE TAKES FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS AND GIVES TO THE POOR. THE RICH WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE PREMIUMS. THE POOR HAVE A MYRIAD OF SAFETY NETS, INCLUDING FREE HEALTH INSURANCE, AND INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK AT THIS PYRAMID SCHEME.

            “it is high time you BS artists stopped trying to freeload off the rest of us. Pay for your own goddamn healthcare insurance and stop jacking the cost of my premiums.”

            TELL THAT TO YOUR SUGAH DADDY, OBAMA! ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE DOOMED NHS MODEL.

          31. Americans Wake Up says

            My, my! Angry little libturd aren’t you? Didn’t get your way to run over the Constitution like you wanted. It’s not hard to “eff up” a Democratic presidency- that starts with the person the lib’s elect. They do fine on screwing everything up on their own quite well.

          32. Americans Wake Up says

            “And, it is high time you BS artists stopped trying to freeload off the rest of us. Pay for your own goddamn healthcare insurance and stop jacking the cost of my premiums.”
            Sounds like you had a conservative brain cell awaken there. I feel the same way. I am tired of the liberals taking my tax dollars and giving it to the liberal freeloaders.

          33. Mark Clemens says

            You are so foul mouthed!!!!
            Welfare in the constitution means
            “For the publics well being”
            Your general welfare of the public ment it’s SAFTY against invasion ( either from foreign governments, Outlaws, or Indian Nations), and ability to conduct commerce.
            An example of poor welfare of that era would be in lands west of the Mississippi. There was little law enforcement, poor roads, a live at your own risk environment. In the lands East of the Mississippi law and order were well established. Therefore the welfare was good.
            It wasn’t about food stamps, corporate tax breaks, or national health care.

            If you must use fowl language, please keep your opinion to your self.
            Thank You.

          34. Merle Dickey says

            Wow you must be a liberal to have so much hate . No one says you have to have a gun. That is your right BUT it is others right to own a gun whether for protection, hunting , or collection . It is a right in this country . Start taking away rights and soon we will be a 3rd world country under a dictatorship ( Hillary) would be glad to be dictator.)

          35. MAHB001 says

            Or 0bama… He ain’t going anywhere.

          36. Barbedwire says

            Do libs just automatically have to lie???

            “How do you promote the general welfare when half of the country has NO healthcare insurance they can actually afford?” Wow – before ACA, 85% of the nation HAD insurance and were satisfied with it. So, now, after ACA, only half have insurance??? Get real and informed.

          37. MAHB001 says

            Yes, Libs have to lie… When you abandon common sense, you have little options.

            Great post.

        2. David says

          You are right on. It doesn’t take much to google and find out what the term “militia” meant in the 1700’s. It meant all able-bodied men capable of carrying and using a weapon. See also the definition of militia as set forth in the United States Code. Moreover, that is one of the bedrock principles used by the Supreme Court in its rulings on the right to bear arms.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Liberals are attempting to change the meaning of words to get what they want…

            Liberals like this one, are evil, they do not have We the Peoples best interest in mind, only the promotion of slavery via socialism/communism….

            The second amendment is the ONLY thing that separates this once Great Nation from the tyranny and slavery of communism..

            Excellent posts…

          2. David says

            How very true!
            Molon labe, brother.

          3. Retired Marine says

            Nor does it take a genius to understand it, but it take an imbecile to mis-interpret it’s meaning.

      2. MAHB001 says

        You would take away someones right to protect themselves, just because they are on welfare?

        What country are you from? Russia? China? North Korea?

      3. JoJo Gunn says

        “All those who believe they are militia”.. ????.. We ARE the militia.. Each states congress is responsible for providing for us and training us if they should call upon us.. That’s all that means. However, the militia needs no state power to call upon in order to act… The militia via the second amendment, was the final and most effective check and balance left us by the framers of our once great nation.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Well stated.

          1. JoJo Gunn says

            Thanks

        2. savanah1 says

          100% correct, most people do not understand that the bill of rights declares the rights of the individual,NOT the government,to declare the peoples right to bear arms and then to make that same right subject to regulation by the government defeats the very purpose for which it was created.

        3. Retired Marine says

          JoJo, you can’t fix stupid and elanore is loaded with it.

          1. ABO says

            Excellent as usual, Retired Marine. She is a sick, twisted piece of work isn’t she?

          2. Retired Marine says

            That is a fact.
            Semper Fi

        4. TheSkalawag929 says

          Each state has a legislature not a congress. A congress is the NATIONAL legislative body of a country.
          States have the responsibility of organizing, arming and disciplining the Militia and training them according to the discipline prescribed by Congress when employed in the service of the United States.
          “the militia needs no state power to call upon it in order to act…” and “The militia via the second amendment, was the final and most effective check and balance left us by the framers of our once great nation.”
          Not true. You have a romanticized view of what a militia is and does.
          http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/State+militia
          Where in the Bible does it say that you have a right to defend yourself and that you have a right to firearms?

          1. Mark Clemens says

            The night Jesus was arrested, Peter was armed w/a sword. That was the Gun of that day……..
            Moses used brutal phenomenon to liberate the Jewish slaves from the Egyptians. I think the bible allows for self protection.
            God protected his heavenly interests against the devils army of fallen Angels. Created hell just for them………..

          2. TheSkalawag929 says

            He also told Peter to put away the sword (gun). And he said he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
            Moses called upon God for his help. Not really self protection.
            As you said it was God’s protection not self protection.

          3. JoJo Gunn says

            No.. You have a narrow vision of what the militia is… “When employed by the United States” it’s right there in your own reply. No, states have the responsibility of PROVIDING for the organization, and discipline (training) of the militia, if and when the state calls up the militia. You have the vision of todays perversed interpretation of what the militia is and does. The second amendment covers it quite clearly. And what of the Bible… This nation is not a theocracy. The Bible isn’t our founding document. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are. Although inspirational to the framework and founding of our nation. And actually there are several verses in the Bible that support the position our founding fathers took on the revolution. They debated much and did much soul searching before entering into a revolutionary war. The Bible was there reference for such a cause. I suggest you do a little research on that before making such claims.

          4. Retired Marine says

            Well stated, but you can’t make the blind see.

          5. TheSkalawag929 says

            Militia: A group of private citizens who train for military duty in order to be ready to defend their state or country in times of emergency.
            This is the definition that I am using. What’s yours? And besides in the United States, as of the early 2000s, the National Guard has served as the nation’s militia.
            Here is something else for you to ponder. Since the National Guard now serves as the nations militia the right to bear arms part of the Second Amendment could conceivably be interpreted as being unnecessary. Not that I’m calling for that but the argument could be made.
            I did not bring up the Bible. You will have to take THAT up with JoJo Gunn.
            There are probably a lot of Bible verses that could be used to support the position of our country’s Founders. However the Founders being learned men makes your claim of their using the Bible as a reference dubious.
            You should take your own advice on researching.

          6. JoJo Gunn says

            What are “Militias”?

            The Constitution does not define them. It’s one of those terms that is undefined because it wasn’t necessary to define it. The Founders weren’t creating something new, they were adopting or incorporating something that already existed. And everyone who was alive at that time above the age of 10-13 years old, who was watching what went on in his local community, knew precisely what these things were. All of the Founding Fathers at one time or another had probably served in a Militia, unless hay had an exemption or were crippled and physically unable to do so. So they knew exactly what these institutions were and there was a history going back to the 1600’s. Statutes would be passed by colonial assemblies in all the colonies eventually. The Colony of Pennsylvania was one of the last one’s to pass a militia statute because the Quakers were in control of Pennsylvania. One of the tenets of the Quaker religion is pacifism. When the Quakers controlled the Pennsylvania Assembly, they didn’t feel it was appropriate for them to impose on anyone a requirement to be a part of a “martial organization” (i.e. an organization that had a military component that required people to bear arms and perhaps to fight). So you don’t see a militia statute passed in Pennsylvania until the late 1700’s until the crisis with the British occurred and the Quakers finally conceded. Benjamin Franklin in the 1750’s, during the French and Indian War period, tried to and did convince the Quakers to pass a statute that allowed for a “Voluntary Militia”. It looks like all the other militia statutes, except it said that the average individual was not required to participate but could volunteer. But all colonial statutes had to go back to England for approval or rejection. And the Privy Council rejected that statute because it was contrary to the principles of the militia structure in all the other colonies.

            So here we have this word “Militia” that is undefined. It’s a peculiar term because it’s both a non-technical and a technical term. Non-technical in the sense that it has a factual meaning in the sense it’s unconnected to the law, meaning you could observe militia’s going on and operating without knowing anything about the law connected to them. It is a technical term because it derives from a legal background.
            Now when you take into context, the role the militia plaued throughout the revolution, i think its not so hard to derive the true meaning of and therefore the duties of an organized militia.. If the militua is state controlled, i.e. the national gaurd, and that sate is federally funded, then what is the point of a militia other than to help respond to natural disasters, ir state sponsered law enforcement. Both are absolutely within the realm of the duties of a militia, but both also fall short of the founders common knowledge of the duties of a militia in their time… Again, the 2nd Amendment states it quite clearly… And yes you did bring up the Bible, you asked me to point out where the Bible states we have the right to self defense.

          7. TheSkalawag929 says

            I didn’t ask if the Constitution defined militia. I asked what is YOUR definition.
            If you had clicked on the link that I provided you would see that the American militia system has its roots in ancient English tradition, dating back to the Anglo-Saxon militia that existed centuries before the Norman Conquest in 1066. You’re way late with 1600.
            “Congress can call the National Guard into federal service for three purposes: to enforce federal laws, to suppress insurrections, and to defend against invasions.
            State governors can call upon the National Guard for emergencies that are prescribed by state law.” These are the prescribed uses of the militia (National Guard) by federal and state government according to the Constitution.
            I asked you to point out where the Bible states we have the right to self defense since YOU used God as your authority for self defense in the first place.

          8. JoJo Gunn says

            I didn’t use God as my defense for my rights, the Founders did. I think my answer to your statist ideology is quite thorough and leaves nothing to question.. I have given you my answer, it is complete.. You may do some learning on the role of the militia as it pertains to the revolution and the preservation of freedom… If the militia were a state sponsored organization only, then it would have.played no role in the revolutionary war. As it would have answered to the crown instead of it’s own community.

          9. TheSkalawag929 says

            No they didn’t.
            No you didn’t.

          10. JoJo Gunn says

            “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their “Creator” with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the “Right of the People to alter or to abolish it”, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,” it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, “and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.”-Declaration of Independence… Be educated welp!

          11. TheSkalawag929 says

            What you have cut and pasted is the Declaration of Independence which was the severance of political connections to Great Britain. It is not a governing document upon which our laws are based. Our laws are not judged by it but by the United States Constitution.
            They used the endowment of certain unalienable Rights by a Creator as their basis to justify their claim to independence. Not the basis of our laws. No where in the United States Constitution is God mentioned.
            Try looking up “what is the basis of u.s. law”. You will find that it is NOT The Declaration of Independence.
            Follow your own advice.

          12. JoJo Gunn says

            There is a principal
            which is proof against all information,
            which is proof against all arguments,
            which cannot fail to keep man in
            everlasting ignorance;
            that principal is –
            Contempt prior to investigation !
            Herbert Spencer

          13. TheSkalawag929 says

            A conservative using a quote attributed to a prominent 19th century classical LIBERAL political theorist to prove his point.
            Now that’s rich!!!
            Do you realize that the quote that you use more than likely is describing religion as being the proof which causes contempt prior to investigation?
            So how does it back your case.

          14. keith says

            You obviously have no damned idea what militias are to be formed for,and yes the people do have the right,Only a damned fool would think that we should not have the right to defend ourselves.You are obviously a damned left wing idiot.

          15. TheSkalawag929 says

            What is obvious is that you let emotion speak for you instead of reason. And it seems obvious that you didn’t bother to check out the link that I provided.
            I, however look forward perusing your information that defines what militias are and their function in your world.

          16. Retired Marine says

            Come on, no one is that stupid, your kidding right?

          17. TheSkalawag929 says

            Specify.

          18. Retired Marine says

            The second amendment. The Bible has no input over the 2nd amendment, it is a law of the land, your interpretation is not viable.

          19. TheSkalawag929 says

            You’re talking to the wrong guy. I just responded to JoJo Gunn’s use of God.
            Talk to him.

          20. Retired Marine says

            I do, thank you.

          21. BlueMax67 says

            Exactly how you jumped from states legislatures to the Bible I am not sure, but because you asked I am replying Jesus in addressing self defense, instructed his followers to sell there clothes if necessary to buy swards this instead of firearms since their were no fire arms in the first century. Luke 22:36!

          22. TheSkalawag929 says

            I was responding to each point that the poster made in the order that he brought them up.
            Jesus also put a limit on the swords (the firearms of the time) necessary.
            “The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.”
            Luke 22:38
            Something today’s gun advocates don’t seem to be in agreement with (limits).

        5. Mark Clemens says

          “A Government big enough to give you everything you want.
          Also is a government big enough to take everything you have”
          -Thomas Jefferson

          1. Robert says

            So true! , did you have a good holiday weekend? Getting my fishing and hunting license this week, an gonna get me some trout! Hope you are doing fine!

          2. Mark Clemens says

            Caught a bunch of Crappie at Dale Hollow. Right now I’m at a diner in WV, heading to Lake George. To see what I can pull out of it.
            Happy Memorial Day (or two after)!!

          3. Robert says

            No hammerheads in Dale Hollow???. My family owns about 200 acres in Hickman County. Next time we go there, I would like to try Dale Hollow.

        6. ABO says

          Well stated, accurate and correct, JoJo. Unfortunately Eleanor Witless is nothing but a paid liberal troll, with a foul mouth and bad attitude. The more you respond the more her posts become vicious and accusatory with no relevance to the subject at hand whatsoever. Best to simply ignore her. Just sayin’

      4. savanah1 says

        “SUCH PART OF THEM AS MAY BE EMPLOYED IN THE SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES” You have defeated your own argument,this one sentence clearly shows that not every member of the militia will be under the control of congress and further strengthens the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.

        1. Retired Marine says

          She is a typical dem, print only what works for your opinion.

      5. ringostarr1 says

        Eleanore… then you also mean that you want to dis-enfranchise all the citizens in these 10 states who are on welfare or who are drawing SSDI? Regardless of these peoples’ races or SOURCE of NATIONAL ORIGIN,,,, meaning where they were born or grew up. How’s about doing us a favor sweetheart and name the Southern and Midwestern states that you want to discriminate against, don’t you think that you should give us Pork Chops the heads up so that we can get our faces out of the Government’s feed trough before you go down the row shooting us all in the noggin?

      6. Francisco Machado says

        Read your own post. “…governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States.” During the Ferguson riots, a militia assembled comprised of armed citizens who prevented the rioters who were setting fires from gaining access to the gas station. That militia was not, in its conventional meaning, in the service of the United States, was assembled and organized without benefit or need of Congressional action, did not need to be armed by Congress and, being entirely within the state, was not subject to being disciplined by Congress but fell within jurisdiction of the state insofar as necessary. Just incidentally, Congress did nothing about the riots, either – that, too, is not among the Constitutionally delegated powers of Congress but is an issue of state responsibility. Pressing on: Bleach is a dangerous toxic chemical. You can buy it at your local grocery store. Acetone at the hardware store, gasoline at the gas station, phosphate and nitrate fertilizers from farm supplies and a whole aisle of over the counter drugs with fatal potential at the drug store. And why should law abiding persons on welfare not be permitted the means of self defense? Are they not as subject to criminal attack as you – or more so? You have the freedom to remain unarmed if you choose, although after the Roberts decision regarding Obamacare Congress now has the power to require you to purchase and maintain a gun for your own protection – or pay a tax penalty if you don’t.

      7. Barbedwire says

        Wow!! prejudice much?? “mutton chops and corn pone hicks”???

    4. James Andrews says

      Exactly. And even if these traitor “pass” these obviously unconstitutional laws, we will ignore them! I fully suport sensible laws, but this is serious over reaching, and dangerous as well, as it flies directly against the very reason for the Second Amendment in the first place. Bad and unconstitutional laws should be ignored, period.

    5. daveveselenak says

      REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION, they know it and that is why these Godless, Satan worshipping wanna-be gods are out to disarm all of “US”! This unconstitutional BS must be stopped!

      1. MAHB001 says

        Revolution must be the last solution, the loss of human life will make Stalin, Mao, and the goofball in Korea forgettable.

    6. Betterbob says

      Who is we?

      1. MAHB001 says

        We the People, is the citizens of the United States.

        1. Betterbob says

          The only thing that is covered in the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms. Even though a gun has been designated an arm nowhere does it say guns in the constitution. The right is also projected to a knife which is an arm.
          The reason for gun control has nothing to do with taking away arms from citizens. Anyone who thinks it is is paranoid. It has to do with gun violence that is increasing annually and has been for several years. We need to reduce the overall number of people killed and injured by guns. That is the reason for gun control, not taking away guns.

          1. MAHB001 says

            “Shall NOT be infringed.”

            Being paranoid does not mean that you are wrong……

            None of the gun laws actually deduce the overalll number of people killed and injured by violence (guns)… . All of the gun laws are incremental infringements into yours and my rights to keep and bear Arms.

            This is not paranoia, it is logic.

            Guns should not be the thing you attack, violence should be… Evil should be… Why do you not attempt to remove evil from society?

          2. Betterbob says

            Gun control laws do not infringe on any right. All they do is help stop guns getting into the hands of those that have lost the right to have them (if they are enforced properly). Providing you have not done something to lose that right a gun control law will not stop you owning a gun, thus it does not infringe on your right to bear arms. Your argument does not follow any logic. It makes unverifiable assumptions.

            You say quote”None of the gun laws actually reduce the overalll number of people killed and injured by violence (guns).” Well maybe we need a lot stricter gun control laws that will reduce gun violence. It has been shown strict gun controls do reduce gun violence.

            Quote “Guns should not be the thing you attack, violence should be… Evil
            should be… Why do you not attempt to remove evil from society?”

            Your remark is illogical. What do you mean by evil? Gun violence wherever it takes place and whoever commits it has one common element. That is the gun. Therefore a good place to stop or reduce the violence is by targeting the gun.
            You statement does not follow past experience with problems. For example driving deaths. Probably the number one cause of driving deaths is bad driving habits. Yet while responding to bad driving habits with classes and better instruction nobody thinks this is the only way to reduce driving deaths. That is why cars now have seat belts and airbags.

          3. MAHB001 says

            Hope you get betterbob at connecting the dots….

            Gun Control laws do nothing BUT infringe on our second amendment rights. The one thing your politicians keep admitting is that the laws will do nothing to improve “gun violence.” None of the gun laws on the books in CA stopped San Bernardino from happening… What they did was stop those innocent victims from protecting themselves.

            It is you that fails to be logical. Look at it this way, you are attacking an inanimate object and not the root of the cause. Guns have both good and bad uses, you will NEVER be able to ban all guns in America, nor will you be able to extract evil from America, why do you attack the good in America? To what end?

          4. Betterbob says

            I do not agree with your logic in either the case of gun control or the case of inanimate objects.
            With gun control there is ample evidence to show that serious gun control significantly lowers gun violence.
            As to the inanimate object, you attack your own logic. You say guns are inanimate thus by definition they have no particular quality yet you give them anthropogenic qualities, good and bad. You cannot have it both ways.
            I still have no idea what you mean by evil. That is such a vague term that it really has nothing but a very generalized meaning which is inadequate for a rational argument.

            Also, you use the logical fallacy of equivocation to determine I am attacking the good in America. That is a totally untrue and false statement. If you believe I’m wrong then show me where I have said anything that attacks the “good” in America. To add to that the term good is just as vague as the term evil. Both are interchangeable depending on your point of view.

            Finally, for all your assertions about the good of guns let me give you a few numbers (with the reliable sources). I know of plenty more.

            1) When a gun is present in a situation of domestic violence, it increases the risk the woman will be murdered fivefold.
            Source:
            Jacqueline C. Campbell, Daniel Webster, and Jane Koziol-McLain, “Risk
            Factors for Femicide in Abusive Relationships: Results from a Multisite
            Case Control Study,” American Journal of Public Health 93, no. 7 (June
            2003): http://1.usa.gov/1osjCet.

            2) The background check system is a central component of America’s
            efforts to keep guns from criminals: since its inception, it has blocked
            2.4 million gun sales to prohibited people.
            source:
            US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice
            Statistics, Background Checks for Firearm Transfers, 2012 – Statistical
            Tables, by Jennifer C. Karberg, Ronal J. Frandsen, and Joseph M. Durso
            (December 2014), http://1.usa.gov/1TgPRgB.

            3) America’s gun murder rate is more than 25 times the average of other developed countries.
            Source :
            Erin Grinshteyn and David Hemenway, “Violent Death Rates: The US
            Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010,” American Journal
            of Medicine, 2015

            4) Seven children and teens (age 19 or under) are killed with guns in the U.S. on an average day.
            Source:
            See Everytown for Gun Safety, Not An Accident – Index, http://every.tw/1GMK8np, and School Shootings since Newtown, http://every.tw/1eh50vh.

          5. MAHB001 says

            Of course you do not agree with my logic…

            You are saying the ONLY violence that matters to you is gun violence, and I am saying that is a heartless stance to take… Why do you not care about all the victims of violence?

            You say there is ample evidence to show that gun control significantly lowers gun violence, yet you ignore the ample evidence that those same gun controls did not reduce murders, NOR did they reduce violence in general……

            It seems you are incapable of considering the entire effects of your actions, as the ONLY result you are interested in is the disarmament of the American civilians… The WELFARE of those citizens is not considered in your logic, therefore your will not agree with my logic.

            I say your gun control laws only hurt good law abiding citizens… Try proving me wrong…

            I consider what is best for the people, not what is best for my ideology… Or what the masters of my ideology tell me to consider.

            I am beginning to think that you do not understand evil because you are controlled by evil…

            To be clear, guns can be USED for good and bad… Your half baked crock of an argument forgot a key word…..

            1) Not when the women is properly trained, those statistics are conveniently not tracked in your book…

            2) Background checks do not consider ones mental health… Liberals have been fighting to keep those records sealed and away from the Governments prying eyes… Conservatives fear, and with historic evidence to support it, that the lists generated from background checks will be used to confiscate guns in the future.

            3) 4) As for the rest of your stats…. https://youtu.be/Gz8po5E_Kfg

            How do you justify in your brain that the places with the strictest gun control are the ones with the most gun violence??? How are those gun control laws working for you?

          6. Betterbob says

            Quote “You are saying the ONLY violence that matters to you is gun violence, and I am saying that is a heartless stance to take… Why do you not care about all the victims of violence?”
            Very simple. There are plenty of other people working on other forms of violence and I don’t have the time and resources to work on all of them so I concentrate on gun violence. What are you doing to help all the other types of violence? You like trying to lay guilt trips don’t you? Wont work with me I do not feel one bit guilty concentrating on gun violence.

            Gun control reduced overall violence. Listen carefully “OVERALL VIOLENCE”.
            You like making assumptions and telling people what they want to do when they have never said that. I have never said I quote ” the ONLY result you are interested in is the disarmament of the American civilians.” That is a blatant lie on your part so stop with the telling me what i mean. I will tell you what I mean.
            As for the welfare of the citizens. well I guess you don’t read very well so I will post again.

            1) When a gun is present in a situation of domestic violence, it increases the risk the woman will be murdered fivefold.
            Source:
            Jacqueline C. Campbell, Daniel Webster, and Jane Koziol-McLain, “Risk
            Factors for Femicide in Abusive Relationships: Results from a Multisite
            Case Control Study,” American Journal of Public Health 93, no. 7 (June
            2003): http://1.usa.gov/1osjCet.
            2) The background check system is a central component of America’s
            efforts to keep guns from criminals: since its inception, it has blocked
            2.4 million gun sales to prohibited people.
            source:
            US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice
            Statistics, Background Checks for Firearm Transfers, 2012 – Statistical
            Tables, by Jennifer C. Karberg, Ronal J. Frandsen, and Joseph M. Durso
            (December 2014), http://1.usa.gov/1TgPRgB.
            3) America’s gun murder rate is more than 25 times the average of other developed countries.
            Source :
            Erin Grinshteyn and David Hemenway, “Violent Death Rates: The US
            Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010,” American Journal
            of Medicine, 2015
            4) Seven children and teens (age 19 or under) are killed with guns in the U.S. on an average day.
            Source:
            See Everytown for Gun Safety, Not An Accident – Index, http://every.tw/1GMK8np, and School Shootings since Newtown, http://every.tw/1eh50vh.

            Not much welfare there.

            Over 33,000 people every year killed by gunfire. Over 80,000 people injured every year enough to send them to hospital by gunfire. That is greater than the population of Pueblo CO. I will keep fighting gun violence.
            You can rant and rave as much as you like. You can throw insults at me, notice I don’t feel the need to throw insults to make my point. you can give me all types of garbage numbers. It will not change my mind and it will not stop me. Live with it.

          7. MAHB001 says

            Your comments prove that you use “gun violence” as a red herring. As “Gun violence” is just a subset of Violence in general, and as the video I provided you shows that your red herring really has no correlation to gun ownership…

            Proving once again that your ONLY goal is the disarmament of law abiding citizens…

            Listen carefully, It is a LIE to say that gun control reduces overall violence. You ignore the stats that do not support your wishes… There is nothing but evil behind that.

            1) train the women, and this is a non stat….
            2) Background checks do not consider ones mental health… Liberals have
            been fighting to keep those records sealed and away from the Governments
            prying eyes… Conservatives fear, and with historic evidence to
            support it, that the lists generated from background checks will be used
            to confiscate guns in the future.
            3) Again, take away the WORD, GUN, and your stats mean NOTHING… They are lies…
            4) WATCH THE VIDEO!!!!
            https://youtu.be/Gz8po5E_Kfg

            I can see that you are brainwashed to think you are doing good, but the sad truth is you are being used. Up to you to break the chains.

          8. Betterbob says

            Go look at the level of gun violence in free democratic countries that have strict gun control and then tell me it does not reduce violence. You can use all the idiotic rationalization you want. Strict gun control will reduce gun violence. And once more you are wrong about what I mean. Finally, no I have not and will not watch your stupid video..

          9. MAHB001 says

            It is a lie that strict gun control will reduce gun violence…

            Proof is that the City’s and States with the strictest gun controls have the most gun violence… A fact that you CHOOSE to ignore.

            Sadly, you can not refute the evidence within my videos, so, you choose to pretend to be asleep.

          10. Betterbob says

            I cannot refute the evidence in your video because I will not be watching them. Pretty simple. Tell me why do countries with very strict gun laws have less gun violence?

          11. MAHB001 says

            You are correct, you can not refute the evidence in the videos….

            Lets just leave it at that.

          12. Betterbob says

            By the way I never, repeat NEVER watch stupid videos people post. So don’t waste your time posting them.

          13. MAHB001 says

            That is the most asinine statement I have read on these posts…

            You NEVER learn anything from anyone do you? Arrogance, and stupidity are things that are hard to overcome… My bet is that you will not overcome either.

            Let it be known arrogant bigot, I no longer post to you, I post in response to your moronic lies, so that those that read your posts realize you are just another liberal progressive full of BS….

            Even the Truth and solid facts can not open the eyes of someone like Betterbob that pretends to be asleep…

          14. Betterbob says

            You have given any facts. Just a lot of drivel.

          15. MAHB001 says

            You are laughable… And sad… You do not have the ability or skills to determine what drivel is.

  5. Nellie McConnell says

    Criminals, illegal are looking for guns. Break-in and home invasions have increased in my area. Close to borders. Hackers would be able to find owners. Gun free towns have more crime. Remember, Bill Clinton’s exclusive order was to have Military bases gun free.

    1. gingergirl says

      ” Hackers would be able to find owners.” Not only that, Nellie, but if we were attacked, they would be able access this ownership list, and know exactly what house has what weapon(s). We do not need that! Just another attempt to take our guns. Remember. . . . There is only ONE reason why the government would want to take your guns!

  6. USPatriotOne says

    I hold a JD and this is clearly illegal and I see several Law Suit coming! People, this is just another step right out of the Communist Manifesto that BO and all Commie/DemoRats follow, also People need to see this for what it really is, pushing “We the People” to the breaking point so BO can declare Martial Law and start sending Americans in large numbers to Fema/Enslavement/Execution Camps (Hitlary’s Adult Fun Camps)..!!! This is just one of hundreds of actions being taken by this Administration to bring our Nation under NWO/U.N. Agenda 21 Communist Control..!!! God help us, PLEASE!

    1. Gerry Costa says

      We can look to God for help but we the people are going to have to do our share.

  7. crazyfreddie says

    THIS COUNTRY AND THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE HEADED FOR AN ERADICATION PROCESS WITH REVOLUTION WHICH WILL OCCUR SOON VERY SOON / AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE A MUSLIM IN THE USA / PLANES ARE STILL LEAVING FOR THEIR HOMELAND ( WHICH IS NOT THE USA ) THEY STILL HAVE A CHOICE / AMEN > GOD BLESS AMERICA

    1. ringostarr1 says

      Even when the US Military was trying to pacify Iraq the Army was required to allow each house hold to keep one AK47 (yes the fully automatic version) for personal defense. If the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines can’t protect the citizens of Baghdad what makes you people think the Po-Po can do better?

  8. doug says

    Only if idiot publications like yours keep caving to ohomos “ILLEGAL” demands !!!
    What if the pseudo king dictated that “henceforth all men will start wearing womens clothes”, would you start doing it, “MOST” would not.
    It is illegal in America to use taxpayer (govt.) funds to start any gun registry, but if no-one questions it, why not.
    Canada tried it twenty years ago and finally gave it up after millions of dollars and only 15% of “SHEEPLE” registering after twenty years.
    STOP caving to this morons demands and MAN UP !!!!!!

    1. Gerry Costa says

      HOORAH !!!!!!!!!

  9. TrueAmerican says

    Let’s not forget Hawaii loves the Bigger in the WH that would love nothing more than to see America disarmed completely citizens & military. Obama Hates Americamore than I Hate him.

  10. TrueAmerican says

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.

  11. Gerry Costa says

    It had to be either Caliphony or Hawaii to bring up a BS bill like this. If you really think about just the consequences of this bill alone can be very scary, let alone knowing that it is only the first step toward total disarmament. An innocent person who owned a weapon, sold it years ago with no record of the sale could be arrested for a crime he/she had absolutely nothing to do with just because their name was on this BS registry. With that in mind — it would give obozo’s gestapo reason to confiscate all the weapons from that person for absolutely no reason. This WILL escalate, if passed, into something very dangerous for everyone. Anyone with a half of brain knows this is just the beginning.

    1. Robert says

      From the point of Federal Registration, on, there would be NO PRIVATE sales allowed even from a father to a son , even in death of a parent, which the parent “wills” the firearm. Background check, and of course, permission from big brother( government approval would be REQUIRED).
      So, if an innocent person sold a gun, and someone used it in a crime, it wouldn’t be the sellers problem, unless the seller broke the Federal governments laws and didn’t get approval for the transaction.
      I have said it before, and I will say it again:NEVER WILL I REGISTER MY FIREARMS OR WEAPONS( NOT NECESSARILY A FIREARM). Millions of us will never abide by an UnConstitutional law. NEVER.

  12. Retired Marine says

    They won’t be happy until we rise up and take our country back. Then they will be most unhappy.

    1. Amil Baker says

      WE may have to do that if Hillary gets elected.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker says

        If Hillary is elected, you may have to have your balls cut off. Women will turn all of you big mouth bullies into useless eunochs.

        Try again big mouth. No one cares about taking your country back to the days when you could beat women to death and get away with it and rape and molest children like your boy Hastert did for decades and not a single one of your big mouth GOP bulls said a word. That be your Old Boys network? The one you boys loves to pretend is so Christian?

        1. mac12sam12 says

          You talk about Hastert but ignore the fact that Bubba’s a sexual deviant and his cocaine habit has taken a toll. Talk about the good old boys network.

        2. David says

          Eleanore!!!! There you go again, fixating on male genitalia! Were you hurt so bad by your ex-husband divorcing you that you must attack the male gender with every post? Tsk, tsk, tsk…take your meds.

  13. Ron C says

    So lets think about it this way….The lame brains want us to believe that we should give up all God give rights that are inherently true…for an illusion of safety and the terrors of a police state…I think NOT!

  14. James Maxwell says

    The Lunatic Left will use any argument no matte how flawed and corrupt to try and justify destroying our
    rights and freedoms all under the guise of “protecting” us. Sadly with the must for brains that we see
    graduating from our schools it is no wonder that they left is pushing for the domination and subjugation
    of the people as hard as they are. We must educate our Children and society in general of the rights
    and responsibilities of being an American and the responsibility of knowing and understanding the
    words in the United States Constitution. They must also learn that a corrupt government can quickly
    destroy those right we cherish and so many have given their lives to preserve and protect. We cannot
    allow such dysfunctional wannabe dictators gain power over us and enslave our citizens for their
    corrupt intent and lust for power. This is but one step in the conquest of our Nation and the loss of
    our freedoms and liberties that we so dearly love.

  15. Edna Ethel says

    As this article clearly states in the conclusion: these measures are NOT intended to prevent or lessen crime. Crime will always be with us, and it will increase proportionately with population as well as with government intrusion into our free lives. Anyone who does not see the inherent danger in policies introduced by fascists like obama, clinton, pelosi, and the like are missing out on the benefits of being connected to reality.

  16. gerald Hughes says

    Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Kim Il Jong, Hirohito, Benito Mussolini, Adolph Hitler Josef Tito, Josef Stalin and Mao Tse Tung, all of these people wanted universal registration, for the safety of the public.
    All of them got it and all of them with three years had confiscated all weapons. With in a year after that, they had all passed laws that made it illegal to say nasty things about the government. Doing so wuld get you arrested, tried and locked up. The above group of people were responsible for the death of about 20 million people, usually their own citizens.
    The 2nd group that agredd with them showed up.
    Australia, Canada, England, Greece France Portugal, Spain, Germany Belgium, The Netherlands, all passed universal gun registration and shortly there after confiscated all weapons.
    In another staggering coincidence , all of them passed laws that made it illegal to say nasty things about the governments and shortly thereafter ended up with quasi socialistic governments
    if the you still think that the liberal dem bloodsuckers are doing this for safety, you are not very bright.
    The 2nd Amendment is the one that guarantees the rest of them.

    1. Turn9 says

      Gerald, I agree completely. But the problem is, we are preaching to the choir here. We need to find a way to get the word to the vast unwashed masses who have votes that are equal to ours. Remember seeing all those stupid people on J Leno who couldn’t name the VP, or know the capital of the US? Many didn’t know who fought the Civil War or even WW2! Remember, they have a vote just as important as yours & mine! There is so much voter fraud, we have to pass voter ID laws. Having a picture ID is the only thing that will reduce voter fraud. The dems are fighting it tooth & nail. Just like gun control we must find a way to send a mass message to congress to they will pass the laws we need to control voter fraud, i.e., photo ID. same with gun laws – there are 90 million gun owners but only 5 mill NRA members. I know, the NRA has its problems just like any other larfe organization – but it is the one pro gun group the media and politicians go to when they want to know what the public wants. I’d like to see mandatory NRA membership when buying/owning a gun. But it won’t happen. Back to my point – we need to get these messages to the opposition and those on the fence who tend to “go with the flow” and show them the problems with their line of thought.

      1. gerald Hughes says

        I think, that, it is necessary, to keep a broad picture in front of you, to fully understand what is happening.
        The liberal dem bloodsuckers will never stop trying to disarm you, until they get to the point where they understand that it will cause them pain
        keep in mind the people that want to disarm you are the ones that use taxes and the various other fees and licenses, to fund the programs that they use to buy votes with.
        Every year they have to promise more, to buy their vote.
        The liberal are smart enough to know that resistance to that will increase as time goes on.
        They know that at some point there will be armed resistance.
        They are unwilling to look that in the eye.
        Sooo, they will continue to make every attempt to disarm you, not matter what you say to them or the low information voters.
        We will have to decide at what point, we are through, right now, I just hope to get through the next 7 months without civil war.

  17. ringostarr1 says

    France has universal registration. During World War l in the areas under German occupation the Huns went to the local Police offices and got the official list of gun owners. Then la Borch went to the Frenchman’s homes and demanded that they turn over their firearms. Because a lot of homes had already been ransacked by the occupation forces many French citizens could not produce their weapons. This was not a problem, the Germans simply shot the French men who could not produce their guns. To prove that being French is a mental deficiency the same thing was repeated by or to the French 25 years later when Hitler’s forces reoccupied the French Country side.

  18. Mark Clemens says

    Sounds like gun control to me……..

    1. David says

      Damned sure hasn’t worked for the Democrats running Chicago and Philadelphia.

  19. Tiger says

    O has a very short time left in office, he is running on all fours to do as much damage as possible because as long as we have guns he has problems.

    Who might I ask is registering any guns today? I will tell you this millions are not and they are buying on the Black Market.

  20. soldier for liberty says

    yes it is!

  21. ward says

    Typical bo type dictate & from a state that brags on his non-birth in the U.S. to support bo’s wannabe dictatorship by violating the U.S. Constitution & Bill of Rights he has tried to destroy for 7+ years … !

  22. soldier for liberty says

    “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…”

    – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

  23. soldier for liberty says

    What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”

    – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

  24. soldier for liberty says

    To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.”

    – George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

    1. Patriot068 says

      Just gotta read history and your right. That’s why it was so easy for Stalin to murder over how many millions of his own unarmed citizens?? Also why it w as so easy for 1 German soldier with a bolt action rifle holding 5-7 rounds to lead 1,000 Jews yo the gas chambers. All I know if I was one of the thousands being led by 1 asshole with a bolt action I would rather go down fighting than just be led like sheep . Just like if they disarm us then take the agitators to FEMA camps to keep an eye on us. Yeah they may have an AR15 with 30 rounds but15 casualties out of thousands is piddly because we will have to fight back. Then their will be troops who don’t agree with it but those will be far and few between because of them indoctrination of our youth in common core. It’s just like Hitler did he mentioned those over 30-40 were lost causes but ( give me the youth and I’ll guarantee our way of l I feel and a 1000 yr Reich) because they were brainwashed. Look at the Germans who surrendered! They were older soldiers! The Hitler youth were Fina tics murdering prisoners, carrying out crimes, wouldn’t surrender, so the same is happening he re and god help us when the young fruitloops are in the military because Obozo already got rid of all officers who said they would refuse to give the order to fire on us citizens

  25. soldier for liberty says

    We must heed histories warnings!

  26. soldier for liberty says

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”

    – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

  27. soldier for liberty says

    “A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”

    – Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

    1. Eleanore Whitaker says

      Was Richard Henry Lee a Federal Farmer a framer of the U.S. Constitution…duh?

  28. Eleanore Whitaker says

    When Charles Manson, the notorious mastermind of half a dozen murders says he is voting for Donald Trump, you can see just how the rest of the clowns voting for Trump fit in with Manson.

    1. Robert says

      So, then you believe Manson to be SANE?

  29. soldier for liberty says

    “I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.”

    – George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

    1. Eleanore Whitaker says

      Again…not a framer of the U.S. Constitution…merely a statement made by another mutton chops hot shot.

      1. David says

        Eleanore!!!! Have you forgot what I taught you about what the US Code defines “militia” as?

        1. Eleanore Whitaker says

          There he goes again. When his head isn’t bloated, he punctuates with gusto in exclamation points. Sure does show how low on the literary totem this lunatic fanatic is. By the way, you couldn’t teach your pet snake to stop biting your ass…So please…you can’t teach me what I knew while you were shitting in your Depends.

          1. David says

            Eleanore!!!! No comment on what the term “militia” as used in the U.S. Constitution means? Hmmm….well then, maybe you should fall back again on commenting about my genitalia.

        2. Patriot068 says

          It’s made up of regular citizens of certain ages, non military affiliated and they usualy drilled once a month all made up of certain folks from each town. The Natl Guard wasn’t in existence then and has absolutely no relation to The Militia that the leftist morons seem to think it does. Militias were VOLUNTEERS WHO COULD GO HOME WHEN EVER the Regular Army Couldnt. Oh Militias usualy did a 6 month stint but had to get back to pulling in crops etc. The Natl Guard can be Federal iced and they are part of the regular armed forces that’s why in like a Tank Battalion you will have 3 AD & 1 Natl Guard or Reserve to bring the regulars up to full strength. During the Iraq war they had a real issue with a company of Guard/Reservist tank platoon ( Delta) was made up mostly of cops & LE folks, let’s just say they ABUSED THEIR POWER AND GOT CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE WAR CRIMES.
          LET’S JUST hope that if the SHTF that their are enough level headed AD to tell the POTUS to take his illegal orders and shove it up his mullato, Muslims ass or Hillary if she unfortunatly gets elected but she will be asleep anyways just like during Bengazi! Remember her running for election against Obozo and her comment about the 3am phone call??? And this BS about Gun Registration?? I sure as hell wont. But we all fill out 4473 forms so the ATF can raid gun stores & once that happens all my stash is going to be buried and I’ll say Ohhhh no officer I sold them all!!
          Everytown for Gun Safety is getting on ballots in small states ( mine for instance this Nov) and lying their asses off. One idiot on the radio who said he was a “SPORTSMAN” I BET FISHING because he never said what type said buying a gun with a background check is easy in & out and takes only 2 min for the vendor to call the FBI for the NOB# Ummm I’ve been in their and seen people wait 45 min.
          So we need to battle bloomturd, educate the ignorant. And stand vigilant

          1. David says

            Yes!!! And remember…Molon labe!!!

      2. Patriot068 says

        What Muslim country was the 1st to recognize the USA?? And has Ben our ally sense the USA was formed?? You keep saying it but don’t mention a country because if I remember history it was the French who helped us out and was the 1st country after England to recognize the USA, their fleet caught Cornwallis in Yorktown ( French) no Muslims lifted a finger to help us. Then theirs the little Tripoli escapade ( in the Marine Corps Song) to the shores of Tripoli against Pirates whom I believe we’re Muslims and don’t forget that the Muslims sided with Hitler in WW2 to facilitate the “Final Solution”

  30. Eleanore Whitaker says

    We know why half of the middle aged men in this country want AK 47s and the right to walk around in public as if they are Rambo…they are too stupid to be of any real use elsewise. Give military weapons to wear in the schools and grocery stores and the next thing they’ll demand is their own personal MRaps.

    1. mac12sam12 says

      Personally, I like the AR platform much better than the AK platform. The AK is nothing but cheap pressed metal and the AR can group 1/2 inch at 100 yds.

      1. Robert says

        I also like the AR-15s too, but my “go to” Rifle is my deer gun. A 7mm Remington Mag. I also Handloads, so it is more accurate than factory cartridges. A 1000 yard shot is easily doable!!! Although, I would love to have a M14 too. Can’t ever have too many as I always say!!

  31. soldier for liberty says

    I will leave with this “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

    – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

    The left, liberals “Communist” will tell you this is old and antiquated but these word are timeless and Liberty is the biggest threat to communism and dictators it is why this country has reached the pinnacle of nations in such a short time! They will attack it relentlessly until they destroy it if good men do nothing, were given the second amendment to protect liberty and the constitution and I call on all patriots to do just that.

  32. soldier for liberty says

    Eleanore I am considered middle aged but am in great physical shape served in the USMC get to the rifle range 30 times a year can still hit a silhouette at 500 meters without a scope so quite proficient to this day and would still consider myself effective on a battlefield! And guess what there are millions of me out there that would protect the constitution from a dictatorial government and would consider it an Honor. And mac12 the Ar is a better platform but I prefer m14 just love the reach and knock down just personal preference though I have all.So you see they want them to preserve freedom because the next civil war or revolution won’t be fought with muskets or grandpas shotgun!

    1. David says

      Thank you for your service. I was a Flight Engineer on a Jolly Green during the Vietnam Conflict. The 7.62 M14 is a great rifle. I have the semi auto version from Springfield Armory. But, the AR15 is a good one to have also. Not a “battle rifle”, but a good carbine.

  33. soldier for liberty says

    Unlike some of you gotta get back to work got a business to run.

  34. Rick Rogers says

    I have been a gun owner for 35 years and don’t have a problem registering any of the guns I own. So let me make sure I understand your fears. You think having to register your Firearms is infringing on your rights to own a firearm.. Do I have that correct. Is that the claim your making. Ok well along those Same lines there is another Constitutional Right that Republicans are trying to make People go above and Beyond registering. So how about this. If you are ok with Voter ID Laws that require Americans to register with a photo id to exercise their right to Vote then I am ok with having firearm owner ship registered so if the gun is used in a crime it will be easier to trace the firearm. I bet almost every single one of you out there has a Phone with GPS built into it. Just about any Law enforcement agency can track your location from your cell phone. And yet I don’t see anyone complaining about that.

    1. David says

      You place far too much faith in the Government not abusing a National Gun Registry. Our government has never done anything it shouldn’t have before has it?

      1. Rick Rogers says

        I vote is a much more important Right then a firearm. So your telling me your ok that we have states that are Suppressing votes of registered voters? Very few states give Away Photo id’s all most all of them Charge for them. I can’t even begin to count the number of times I listen or Read a story about a Senior Citizen that no longer drives. They have been voting most of their Lives and now because of some Made up concern about Voter Fraud these people have had their right to vote taken from them. And in every Case its been in states Run by Republican Elected Officials. IF they can’t win fair and Square then they sure have decided they will win by cheating.

        1. snowyriver says

          Rick: you let them take the firearms and what will you have to prevent them taking your “right” to vote???

          1. Rick Rogers says

            well lets see.. How about the Honor and Patriotism of the people we pay to protect us.. .US Armed Forces. and the Officers and Men and Women that make up that group.

          2. Robert says

            Not supposed to be a STANDING ARMY, in times of peace, guess we need to keep a war going ATLEAST at all times??

          3. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry but there is nothing in the Constitution that forbids it. No prohibition is to be found, a fact punctuated by the Third Amendment, which prohibits the quartering of troops in people’s home without consent in peacetime. Obviously, that could be an issue only with a peacetime standing army.

          4. Robert says

            Are you sure? I could have sworn there was something somewhere that says something about no standing army/ navy during peace time. I really don’t need to run to the Constitution and look for it. We all know it ( the art of warfare) is about certain political folks that benefit from million and billion dollar contracts. And we also know that those that this pertains to could care less if we feel it violates the Constitution. Sure, we can all ask the Supreme Court to make their ruling. Ain’t it funny how these justices cant even agree on the interpretation of the Constitution? It only means what we ACCEPT it as meaning. Can you wrap your head around that? Didn’t think so!

          5. Rick Rogers says

            Its simple to find.. You can find the Text file Version of the Constitution and all Amendments on a number of websites. Once you have it its a simple matter to run a word Search. Under the Term “Standing Army” no listing.. What is listed is Article 1 Section 8 .. Two lines in there that spell it out. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

            To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

            To provide and maintain a Navy;

            To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

            To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

          6. MTnman says

            The enacting of the Patriot Acts reflects the alarm of Luther Martin (Founder from Maryland): “When a government wishes to deprive its citizens of freedom, and reduce them to slavery, it generally makes use of a standing army [police surveillance].”

          7. Rick Rogers says

            If we did not have a standing army and navy the West coast would be speaking Japanese

          8. MTnman says

            “…, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.”

          9. MTnman says

            Now, you’re beginning to run up against our 3rd Amendment and its variations. Your suggestion is without much hope unless you quarter soldiers, etc., within the populace, to intimidate and conquer. Unconstitutional.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            Actually no.. because Article 2 Section 2 makes the President Commander and chief of Navy and Army and any State Militia (National Guard) when that Militia is called into Service. nothing said about peacetime or War time.

        2. Robert says

          All states are required to issue a photo ID for voting at NO COST. Also, voting is a “right” given from government, which can be taken away. I have been a gun owner for 40 years, and I will not register ANY of them for a FEDERAL REGISTERY. They will get my bullets from my cold dead hands!

          1. Rick Rogers says

            1. Not in North or South Carolina. You have to pay for the ID.. 2. Voting is the same sort of Right that owning a Firearm is. That has not keep Republicans from trying to keep people from Voting.

          2. Robert says

            We only want US citizens to vote, not ILLEGAL aliens, and dead people from voting multiple times! What don’t you understand about that? And if you are too poor to afford 8 bucks for an ID, maybe keep a few bucks out of the welfare check, or get rid of that new hi def TV, iPhone, or cable tv.

          3. Rick Rogers says

            Typical republican answer Tell you who to blame and then try and blame the poor. Its already been established that you can’t require someone to buy something so they can vote. Doing so is a Poll tax which is illegal and against the Constitution .. You know that document all the Tea Bagger republicans keep demanding we follow unless of course it gets in the way of what they want. As those that aren’t voting.. There is a 90 year old african american woman in Texas that has voted in every election since she was able to vote. Not missed a one. Until this last time when because she does not drive, has never been out of the Country, Is not a member of the Military, She was turned away at the polls. But hell why should that matter to you at all. It does not effect you.. Right.?

          4. Robert says

            Maybe a family member might be generous enough to take mammy to the DMV and purchase her an ID if that was such an important priority for her, those heartless bastards!! You know, sometimes life sucks, or unfair, and families could care less. Lay the blame for where it truly belongs…..No good children. Not taught to respect their elders.

          5. Rick Rogers says

            You are missing the point.. IF a state Charges anything.. Even one red cent for documents that are required to vote then its a Poll tax and those are forbidden by the Constitution.. 24th amendment Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
            Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

            So if they don’t buy these ID’s the states that passed Voter id laws are going to keep them from voting. Yeah this won’t stand up to Supreme Court Ruling I don’t care who is on the Court. There is no such think as in person election fraud. If fact the last two times it was caught it was by republican supports “filling in the Ballots” of people that did not vote for every office in the Ballot.. and another was a Republican that wanted to prove it could be done.. BUT she was caught at it.

        3. David says

          The topic this line of comments was following was the registration of all firearms. I told you one of the reasons I object to registration is the historical use by governments to use such registration in order to confiscate all firearms owned by the populous. Voter registration was not the subject. However, my comment on that is one used by Demorats everywhere: “Vote early and vote often!”

    2. snowyriver says

      Hitler:: “To disarm a nation, first locate the guns, then confiscate them”

      1. Rick Rogers says

        1. IF they wanted your guns they would have them. Thinking you can prevent it with your gun is the ultimate dissolution. Because if someone comes to power (oh like say TRUMP) that thinks its his GOD given Right to rule then the only thing stopping them is the Men and women of the US Military and their choice to disobey unlawful orders. IF they don’t then nothing is going to stop them from peeling them out of your cold dead hand.

        1. snowyriver says

          Wish I lived in your paper doll world.. Problem is the people of America do not live there.

          1. AKLady2015 says

            People do not live in your fiction novel.

          2. snowyriver says

            How are you and your neighbors getting along with the “new” transgender rules applied by obama?

  35. Susan Short says

    This idea, in theory, could be a good thing, but do you really trust Odumbo and his administration to put such a plan into action?! I don’t trust Odumbo to do anything good for this country! One of the biggest problems with such a plan as this, is that you will never get the gang member’s guns registered. THEY are the ones who are mostly responsible for the gun crimes, and those gangs have a whole lot of guns!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

      Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?

      That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

  36. G.Mann says

    Imagine, just for a moment, any state passing a law that restricted or “infringed” on Free Speech, 1st Amendment Right.. or the Right to not testify against yourself, 5th Amendment.. or any of the other of the Bill of Rights.

    Would the media be full on attack if Free Speech were regulated? Or any of the other Rights of American Citizens guaranteed by the Bill of Rights?

    Well?

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Hate speech is a crime.
      Do you consider that to be a 1st Amendment violation?

  37. MTnman says

    It is true, history has shown that registration precedes confiscation as furtherance of the tyrannical socialist/communist state. Only extremists view it differently. It is always done with good intentions while hiding the fact that it is all about control and power of the state. It is not consistent with our intended form of government but that of a despotic democracy moving toward socialism and communism.

    Gun registration and, then, confiscation is but a tool of dictatorial governments to control the citizenry so as to strip away the liberties a free people enjoy. Nothing more. When the right hand is innocently calling for registration, the left is secretly planning the next move for more control.

    The call for registration is but a symptom of the form of government we have fallen to – democracy, not the intended form of government we were given.

    1. snowyriver says

      Correcto mundo… We were given a Constitutional Republic… I believe it was Ben Franklin said “if you can keep it”

      1. MTnman says

        And, as famous Chief Justice John Marshall, the second maker of the Constitution, wisely stated: “… between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

        The chaos we now suffer is because we are in that democracy the Founders and Chief Justice Marshall warned us about.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Really?
          Accusation, accusation, accusation … never any facts.

    2. AKLady2015 says

      Tell us when these countries confiscated weapons: India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Denmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand.
      Provide dates and citations.

  38. soldier for liberty says

    The reason behind voter id is because thousands of none citizens and dead people vote. The government doesn’t enforce the law I don’t think there should be voter id but i do think the law should be enforced, They don’t enforce the law because the system is being cheated to their advantage, we know this to be fact. The government has no business knowing what guns I own there is only one reason they want to know so that they can one have a tactical advantage and to confiscate them. They are for protection from the government!

    1. MTnman says

      You are in agreement with Thomas Jefferson. Hamilton not so much.

    2. AKLady2015 says

      We the P eople do not elect a President. These men did not win the populat vote: John Quincy Adams,Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George H.W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush

  39. soldier for liberty says

    Don’t agree with it unless it’s Karl Marx?

    1. AKLady2015 says

      ..?? How about you send your children out to play on the streets of Miami …NY …Chicago …Mikwaukee …LA …???

      1. David says

        Nope…all are Demorat cesspools.

        1. Cy Cosis says
  40. snowyriver says

    Isn’t all this hope and change that obama promised, just wonderful?

    1. AKLady2015 says

      ?? How about you send your children out to play on the streets of Miami …NY …Chicago …Mikwaukee …LA …???

  41. Barbedwire says

    “Critics will say that it doesn’t matter. If we can use this registry to solve even one crime a year, it’s worth it.” “if we can save one life…”

    These statements have become the “most insidious” way salesman/politicians obtain a “YES” from the individual they are trying to “sell”. No one is against saving one life; so no one will say “no”. But, the regulations, restrictions, taking away of freedoms/rights in order to do it…. IS NOT WORTH IT AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE.

    More than one life has been saved by the right/freedom of citizens to be gun owners and carry them. This is now the second time we’ve heard about “it’s worth it to save one life, to get everyone insured, to not offend anyone….” Those who are willing to give up freedoms for safety, deserve and will not have, either. We must not let Gov’t or this lying corrupt obama do it to us again!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      ..How about you send your children out to play on the streets of Miami …NY … Chicago …Mikwaukee …LA …???

  42. armydadtexas says

    Better question would be is this the first step toward civil disobedience, like the United States has never experienced. O-blow hole best piss off!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?
      Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?
      That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

      1. armydadtexas says

        Oh more noise from Obama and the far left wing radical extremist, mindless, slobbering socialist democ-RAT goose stepper. PISS OFF MORON

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Grow up little boy.
          Mommy needs to wash your mouth out.
          I recommend Tabasco Sauce for the job.

          1. armydadtexas says

            Awe did the little Mindless, slobbering skank get offended? You are just making noise! That is all you can do. Other than that you are nothing but a blithering idiot, left wing TROLL.

    2. AKLady2015 says

      How about you send your children out to play on the streets of Miami …NY …Chicago …Mikwaukee …LA …???

  43. soldier for liberty says

    The lines are drawn and growing more distinct everyday it is about disarmament always has been.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      It is about taking America’s streets out of war zones.

  44. teedoffatobama says

    unless the USA government can control the whole world( which it can’t) I can get me all the guns I can want or afford through the black market so quit coming up with foolish notions

    1. AKLady2015 says

      The U.S.S.R. no longer feeds the black market.
      Weapons of war are a bit more difficult to find.
      Get caught, you will probably do time for receiving stolen property.

      1. teedoffatobama says

        lol lol lol you’re a fool if you think the only place to get weapons is by way of USSR

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Suggest you increase your reading comprehension.
          Your response has no relationship to my post — none.

        2. AKLady2015 says

          “He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”
          ― Groucho Marx

        3. teedoffatobama says

          “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

          — Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

          “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it.”

          — Abraham Lincoln, 4 April 1861

  45. melmack 1 says

    Please, somebody explain why this muslim was voted into office and why people and the PRESS want billary to follow him in office….GOOD GRIEF !!!! Is it because they want to say we elected a black man and then a woman??? They will then end up saying, and then we lost the country to ISLAM !

    1. AKLady2015 says

      America was founded upon religious freedom.
      The first casualty of the American Revolution was a Muslim.
      The first Country to recognize our Nation was Muslim.
      The country which has been our most faithful, and longest ally is Muslim.
      .
      Maybe you should move somewhere that suits your bigotry.
      Iran should be a good fit.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          You really need to educate yourself.
          Child marriage takes place in America, on a regular basis.
          All that is required is a judge’s permission.
          New York State has the highest rate of such marriages.
          .
          Your religious bigotry just does not make the grade.
          Suggest you educate yourself and stop embarassing America with
          your ignornce and religious bigotry.
          .
          YOu have an Internet connection — use it to educate yourself.

          1. Cy Cosis says

            You must be a fuzzy muzzy, and a worshipper of the pedophile mohammed the goat humping pervert. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZPEkZCqwA

          2. AKLady2015 says


            Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

            Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?

            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          3. Cy Cosis says
          4. AKLady2015 says

            So childish.
            Boring.

          5. AKLady2015 says

            Allah must have had a penis,
            He has a Son named Jesus.

          6. Cy Cosis says
          7. AKLady2015 says

            Allah is the Arabic word for God.
            The God of Abraham.
            The same God worshiped by Jews and Christians.
            .
            Your self-impised ignorance is sad, very sad.
            You embarass America.

          8. Cy Cosis says
          9. AKLady2015 says

            I really enjoy letting you makje a fool of yourself.

            How old are you? 10? 12?

            Then again, science documents that the male brain is not fully developed until the mid-to-late 20s.

          10. AKLady2015 says

            Christian Sharia:

            1. If a woman is found not to be a virgin on her wedding night, “she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.” Deuteronomy 22:20-21

            2. “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve.” 1 Timothy 2:10-13.

            3. “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.” Leviticus 20:10 (Unlikely conservatives will push for this law because with it would mean too many politicians would be put to death.)

            4. “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.” Leviticus 20:9

            5. “For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of Sabbath rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.” Exodus 35:2

          11. Cy Cosis says
          12. AKLady2015 says

            Posting your picture is not going to get you any dates.
            Your mouth scared away even the lowest of wormen.

          13. AKLady2015 says

            Boy, the gun lobby sure has you brainwashed.
            Gun laws allow guns to be traced to their source.
            Those laws assist in the solution of crimes and conviction of ciminals.
            Sometimes, it is the simple law that ends a criminal’s career. Remember it was a filure to file income taxes that put Al Capone in prison.

          14. Cy Cosis says

            If being brainwashed means I prefer freedom to communism. Then yes I’m brainwashed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f006b13b509d0e44cdb48ec82432dcd39a8819f3ec9346713aa05c25c888fbd.jpg

          15. David says

            How about laws that would restrict your idiotic statements?

          16. David says

            Hmm…nice cherry picking. Now read the New Testament ((in addition to Timothy) which sets forth how men are to treat women.

          17. AKLady2015 says

            There is far more than those few examples.
            All religions teach hate in one form or another.

          18. AKLady2015 says

            “You’re so full of crap, you could pass for a toilet.”
            ― Kami Garcia, Beautiful Creatures

          19. AKLady2015 says

            We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
            Benjamin Franklin

          20. AKLady2015 says

            Social equity is based on justice; politics change on the opinion of the time. The black man’s skin will be a mark of social inferiority so long as white men are conceited, ignorant, unjust, and prejudiced. You cannot legislate these qualities out of the white – you must steal them out by teaching, illustration, and example. John Boyle O’Reilly

          21. AKLady2015 says

            ..I think we risk becoming the best informed society that has ever died of ignorance

          22. AKLady2015 says

            There will always be those people who are just backward and ignorant. Janis Ian

          23. AKLady2015 says

            Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.
            enjamin Franklin

          24. AKLady2015 says

            It is the disciplined part you do not comprehend.

          25. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

            Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?

            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          26. AKLady2015 says

            “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.[1] If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.”
            George Washington.

          27. AKLady2015 says

            >>

          28. AKLady2015 says

            Yes, it looks just lije you.

          29. David says

            You, Ms. Atheist, are utterly mistaken. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are NOT the same as Allah.

          30. David says

            What a horrific thing to say. Read the Bible.

          31. AKLady2015 says

            Allah is the Arabic word for the God of Abraham,
            the same God worshipped by Jews and Christians.

            Read an English-Arabic dictionary.

          32. David says

            New York doesn’t let 6 year olds get married — even if, like Muhammed, the marriage wasn’t consummated until she turned 9. Muslimes worship a pedophile.

      1. David says

        The first casualty was “Crispus Attucks”. A mulatto. What is your authority that he was a muslime?

  46. Jerry_Morgan says

    With our Lunatic President only having a few months left in office to punish the American people… How many of you gun owners are going to rush out and register them if Obama says so? Yeah… That’s what I thought… Me either

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Please don’t register.
      Then, they can arrest you, send you to prison …

      1. David says

        The correct response is, “Molon labe”. Look it up.

  47. Alan404 says

    Nothing that comes from the. Mouth of Obama has the slightest element of truth especially his claims of respect for The Second Amendment and citizens rights there under.

    1. snowyriver says

      The second Amendment is the protector of the whole Constitution.

      1. AKLady2015 says

        LOL.
        Show me where in the Constitution it says you can own a weapon of war.
        Show me where in the COnstitution it says the government cannot require you to register a weapon?
        Show ne where …it says you cannot be required to take training before owning.
        Show me where it says a child can own a weapon … a criminal … an insane person …

        1. myfordtruck says

          The 2nd amendment basically says the people has the right to keep and bear arms like the military because it is our last line of defense {AND SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED } so every time the make a law or do any of the above you mention it is going aganst our rights a criminal once he has served his time should be able to own a gun and who is to judge a person insane not me and as far as training all young people that wants to hunt In most states has to have traning

          1. AKLady2015 says

            Try not writing run-on sentences.
            You quickly lost my interest.
            Your assumptions about the 2nd Amendment are incorrect.

          2. Cy Cosis says

            You’re wrong ditch. Now go pitch a fit, witch.

          3. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?
            Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?
            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          4. AKLady2015 says

            Grow up.
            You all have forgotten the women in the men’s room.
            It goes both ways.
            .
            Try living in the real world for a change.

          5. Cy Cosis says

            So you’re a dyke also. Your muzzy friends don’t like you.

          6. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

            Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?

            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          7. Cy Cosis says
          8. AKLady2015 says

            The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law

            It’s not just the fringe anymore. Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’

            The question isn’t: Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible? We are way beyond that. The real questions are: 1. How many more of these laws do they want to impose? And, 2. What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with “God’s law”?

            To some on the right, America is a “Christian nation”—like Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation—meaning that our nation’s laws should be based on their religious text. These forces aren’t moved by Thomas Jefferson’s famous letter in which he spoke of the need to create, “a wall of separation between church and state.” Nor will they be swayed by citing Ronald Reagan’s words, “Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”

            Just a few weeks ago we saw another example of creeping Christian Sharia Law with a bill passed by Kansas’ House of Representatives that would allow people and businesses to deny services to same sex couples if it violated their “religious beliefs.” This proposed law would in essence legally sanction discrimination against gay Americans because same sex marriage is not approved by the Bible. Similar bills are pending in other State’s including Mississippi, Idaho, and Arizona.

            And in the past few years, we have seen pro-life Christian groups successfully lobby State legislatures to restrict access to abortions. They have also raised religious, not public policy, objections to the government funding birth control.

            But here’s the alarming thing: These views are no longer the fringe of American politics. They are increasingly become mainstream conservative fare.

            We saw that in 2012 when Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum declared his belief that the laws in our country must “comport” with God’s law. Santorum also argued in opposition to marriage equality, that our nation’s values “are based on Biblical truth… And, those truths don’t change just because people’s attitudes may change.”

            And former Governor Mike Huckabee, who is considering running for president in 2016, proclaimed during his 2008 presidential race that our laws should be in accordance with God’s.

          9. Cy Cosis says
          10. AKLady2015 says

            There has not been a single person victimized.
            There has not been a single complaint.
            .
            You see, there are no urinals in a women’s restroom —
            only stalls, with doors.

            Another point, it seems that only men are doing the screaming about this issue.

          11. David says

            Your statement, not surprisingly, is false. Check —
            Man in skirt taking pics in women’s restroom. komonews.com
            Pennsylvania man using cell phone camera to take pictures of a 10 year old girl in women’s restroom stall. christianews.net

          12. AKLady2015 says

            Your links are not valid.

          13. AKLady2015 says

            The police say his phone did not contain pictures of the girl.

          14. David says

            Abortion is the killing of the unborn. It also serves to keep the black population in check. See, Margaret Sanger

          15. AKLady2015 says

            Really? Maybe you should read Exodus 21:22-25; Ecclesiastes 6:3–5; Numbers 3:39-40; Genesis 2:7; and Numbers 5:27.

          16. myfordtruck says

            You read enough to reply. you read it your way and I understand my way.I have been on here a long time everybody that reads my stuff Knows my sentence structure sucks but you get what I mean when you read it

          17. AKLady2015 says

            English is not your first language.
            What countey were you born in?

          18. myfordtruck says

            my family has been here since around 1750 and my Wife’s family goes back To George Washington’s brother How far back does your family tree run. Also just for your info I have lived in Fl my entire life and I talk just like I want to

          19. David says

            “countey”? In the United States, we would use the word “country”.

          20. myfordtruck says

            If you want to go on like that I was born in the great state of Florida and have lived my whole life so what is your first Language now why don,t you just stay off and quit being a smart butt.

          21. AKLady2015 says

            Born at Jackson Memorial, graduated Miami Norland Senior High, entered military, M.D. Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences, was stationed at Homestead AFB after serving in Vietnam.

          22. myfordtruck says

            whats yours being you are having trouble understanding english and as far as where I was born is the same state I still live in FLORIDA

        2. David says

          “Weapon of war” — does that mean a spear or a sword?
          “…cannot be required to take training before owning.” — it also doesn’t say that you have to have a certain IQ before being given freedom to express your opinions. Lucky for you.
          “…where a child can own a weapon…” — it says militia which is every able bodied man. It also doesn’t say left handed people.
          “…where..it says the government cannot require you to register a weapon.” — Uhhh, read the 10th Amendment and you got it!
          Did you finish high school?

  48. Joken Joe says

    Register? Not happening.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      You have many exuses for your ignorance.
      You have many excuses for your illegal actions.
      You have many excuses for your bigotry.
      …excuse, excuse

      Yes, you are a poor excuse for a human being.
      If you do not like America’s laws, please leave.

      1. Joken Joe says

        You are a ditch and a witch and a poor excuse for a human. If you dropped dead today I’d have a party to celebrate it. ???? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cd809a4973aafab734ae1ab206202bdb86de123a0ceb13d40defa04345f5ab4.jpg

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Yes, you are a poor excuse for a human being.
          If you do not like America’s laws, please leave.

          1. Cy Cosis says
          2. AKLady2015 says

            Yes, you are a poor excuse for a human being.
            If you do not like America’s laws, please leave.

          3. Cy Cosis says

            You sure can cut and paste. Now why don’t you cut a path out of here. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/efeda2f66e8f46cdfa974a7eaf91c6478ffb708461c025e2d75012f393e8778c.jpg

          4. AKLady2015 says

            Childish.
            Boring.
            Find another country you loje better — move there.

          5. AKLady2015 says

            Cross my doorway, you will die.

          6. Cy Cosis says

            Bring your shiite to my neighbor hood and I’ll fertilize the n 40 with you. You like insulting people you should expect the same. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/feaf97dc375dff05571484e33d9da25c5d8c783be997d25588104e6617d7d69a.jpg

          7. AKLady2015 says

            “What a sad era when it is easier to smash an atom than a prejudice.”
            ― Albert Einstein

          8. AKLady2015 says

            Can you get ahy more childish?

            You have insulted hundreds of American servicemen who were at the
            Bikini Atoll test site. Servicement who eventually died of cancer from that exposure.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          “Do you know what we call opinion in the absence of evidence? We call it prejudice.”
          ― Michael Crichton

          1. AKLady2015 says

            “Ultimately, America’s answer to the intolerant man is diversity, the very diversity which our heritage of religious freedom has inspired.” Robert F. Kennedy

          2. AKLady2015 says

            “Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” Blaise Pascal

          3. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

            Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?

            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

          4. David says

            Got your book of atheist quotes out again, I see.

          5. AKLady2015 says

            Thank ypu for documenting your ignorance for the world to see.
            Pascal was anything but an atheist,

          6. David says

            Agreed. You slipped him in with Harvey Milk. Don’t be so quick to dismiss Christianity.
            “Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid it may be true.”

          7. AKLady2015 says

            “The fact is that more people have been slaughtered in the name of religion than for any other single reason. That, THAT my friends, is true perversion.” Harvey Milk

          8. David says

            Quoting San Francisco homos? Like anyone would give a rat’s — about what he thought. Wait…that’s right, you equate him with the Framers of our Constitution.

          9. AKLady2015 says

            Homosexuality is one of God’s creations.

            It has been documented to occur in 1,400 mammalian species. Current research has also identified a probable genetic link, whch is passed by the mother.

            Grow up.
            Get an education.

          10. David says

            Grow up. Read the Bible. Man is not to lie with another man. Get an education.

          11. AKLady2015 says

            The Bible was written by man, for man.

            Religion is simply another layer of power and control — all region.
            Homosexuality is a normal mammalian behavior.
            I expect you also beieve the Earth is what, 4,000 years old, or is the current claim 6,000 years?
            Grow up.
            Get an education.

          12. David says

            I have a doctorate. You are atheistic slime. The Bible was written by men inspired by God. It is His word.

  49. snowyriver says

    One small step at a time and then OOooppppsss they have it all.

  50. Sgt. York says

    We will just see which states suceede (sp) from the Union over this,those that do are the real United States the others will become Muslim not Americans.

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Our Founders fought and died for religious freedom.
      You mock their sacrifice.
      You dirty the gift they gave us.
      You bring shame upon America.

      1. Sgt. York says

        My my aren’t we miss high and mighty tonite. Remember this those who fail go be A
        MERICAN PATRIOTS will be the deserters who follow the liberals and turn their nose s up to we the Americans defending freedom. Shame on you and your foolish post. Stand up for your country or join the ovomit land of muzzies it’s your choice you can see mine. I gave my time to the group who stood up how about you?

        1. AKLady2015 says

          The first casualty in the American Revolution was Muslim.
          The first country to recognize our Nation was Muslim.
          The country which has been our ally for 225 years is Muslim.

          1. Observant_One says

            Truly unfortunate that the casualty wasn’t your forefather.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            Truely unfortunate they ever allowed your ancestor into this country.

          3. Sgt. York says

            Now who are you trying the shit,muslim this Muslim that your a traitor to our country why not move to Iran I’m sure they would enjoy your hot air and they could have you on TV kicking Americans and spitting at us. Kmca

          4. AKLady2015 says

            This country was founded upon religious freedom.
            Islam is the world’s second larest religion.
            The Middle East is a tiny drop in that propulation.
            .
            Why do you judge all by a few?

          5. David says

            Ugghhh…because their f-ing Koran commands them to subjugate or kill us? By the way, don’t you love the way Sharia law mandates the treatment of women?

          6. AKLady2015 says

            Yout Christian New Testament tells you to subjugate and kill them, and anyone else who does not accept your CHristianity. Moreover, that original order was given to Catholics who proceeded to do just that.

            Catholics are still doing that in Africa. Christians arw ding it right here in the USA — they bomb churches, bomb medical clinics, and murder doctors.

            Your point is what, exactly?

          7. David says

            Crispus Attucks a muslime? What is your authority for that? He was a mulatto killed at the Boston Massacre.

          8. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you embarrass America before the world with your ignorant name-calling? Islam is the world’s second largest religion. The majority of its adherents are located in India and Asia.

            Attucks mother was a Native America.
            His father an African, Muslim slave.

            Attucks was the first casualty in the Revolution.
            Muslim slaves hid their religion in fear of death.

        2. AKLady2015 says

          Expand your history educaton. Look at these contributers to the Nation and freedom you enjoy: Crispus Attucs, Yarrow Mamout, Estevanico, Norsereddin, “Hi Jolly”, Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori, Ayuba Suleiman Diallo, Omar Ibn Said …

          1. David says

            Omar Ibn Said — a Muslime who wrote an autobiography. BFD
            I am too bored to check the rest of your list. Can you specify exactly what each of them did to warrant your adoration?

          2. AKLady2015 says

            He was an Islamic scholor, the equivalent of a college professor, when captured by slavers. He was a member of a wealthy family. He was the author of 14 manuscripts, not just his autobiography.

            Apparently, American history bores you.

            “History forgotten is bound ot be repeated.” George Santayana.

          3. AKLady2015 says

            Crispus Attucs — fist casualty of the Amerian Revolution.
            Yarrow Mamout – Slave who became a global entrepreneur and fiancier.

      2. David says

        “Religious freedom”? You don’t believe in God and sneer at us who do. The Founders were theists.

        1. AKLady2015 says

          David, the Founders were Diests, they rejected revelation.

          1. David says

            All believed in a Supreme Being. Not all were deists who thought God did not intervene in human affairs.

          2. AKLady2015 says

            Suggest you read the works of Thomas Paine and Benjamine Franklin. You might also consider what the clergy had to say about a Founder’s religious faith. Deism influenced a majority of the Founders.

  51. Sir Dirty Harry says

    BS, I won’t register my guns, Molon Labe. I’ll tell them I dumped them in a lake before I’d turn them over to Obama’s ATF goons. I can vacuum pack my ammo and pistols and sink them in a muddy lake known only to me. The mud will conceal and protect. Vacuum pack the bolt assembly on rifles and sink barrel and stock into the mud. Iron does not corrode in mud, I’ve found iron nails encased in mud that were over a 100 years old and came out like new. Or the states should secede from the Union. Next Civil War will be Red State vs Blue States. The Ideal Sniper Rifle if you got the moola: https://youtu.be/2q7V0xEPge0

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Yes, Obama’s election divided the Nation — racist bigots v. those who won the Civil War.

      1. myfordtruck says

        sounds like somebody needs to research her history slavery was just a coverup for the war because it was about the north robbing the south with special taxes. At the time of the war the two biggest slaves owners were two Black ladies 1 in the Carolines and the other in Ga.. Also if you read enough you will be surprised at hoe many black southern soldiers there were then reread the emapaceant act that lincoln read it did not end slavery except in the states that fought aganst the north it was still legal in the north and in La.part of N.C. MO. and all out west so get busy an look up your history not none of this new crap or the movie crap like roots and some of this new stuff

        1. AKLady2015 says

          Where in my post do you see the word “slavery”?

          1. myfordtruck says

            it could be the statement racist bigots v those who won the Civil War

          2. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to put words in other people’s mouths?

          3. myfordtruck says

            you wrote them

          4. AKLady2015 says

            Why do you need to tell this lie?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          5. myfordtruck says

            you wrote them by the way your page say,s you are a disability advocate so I will let you know I am Totally Disabled and Mobility impaired for many years

          6. AKLady2015 says

            Mentally disabled?

          7. myfordtruck says

            I think you have that part covered by yourself your stupid replies

          8. myfordtruck says

            you got that covered all by yourself from your smart butt reply now do us all a favor and stay off of Disqus

          9. AKLady2015 says

            Mentally disabled, yes, you are, without a doubt.

          10. myfordtruck says

            AKLady2015 Sir Dirty Harry • 3 days ago

            {Yes, Obama’s election divided the Nation — racist bigots v. those who won the Civil War.}
            This is the post that started this crap ,I myself was not able to serve but I Am A True American that believes in this Country and it,s Constitution but fears the government as it is .My only service was being a local Volunteer Fire Fighter for ten years fighting house and forest fires and working wrecks and search and rescue and let me tell you there nothing worse than being called out middle of the night to go wash some young dead kids blood off the road that you knew for years or burnt bodies in A house fire or hunting for and finding bodies after a tornado that was my service all unpaid until I could not do it because my body could not stand the physical pain and the reason I write this way is grammar was always my weakness now I hope you understand Me By the way there is nothing wrong with me mentally and it is really wrong of somebody with your back ground to say that

          11. AKLady2015 says

            1. We the People do not elect a President.
            2. Bigotry is a hate.
            3. Hate is a form of mental illness.

          12. myfordtruck says

            I know all about how the elections are done.I don,t hate anybody I dislike their lifestyles seems to me you are the one that does just because I belive in God and its His Job to make judgements on everybody. But if somebody threatens my family I will send some 7.62x39s there way now I have said all I have to say about this so keep your hate to yourself Good by

  52. CUZIN ERN says

    CRIME AND GRIME CONTROL, NOT GUNS THAT MAINTAIN OUR FREEDOM FROM W/O ONLY WITH IN IS OUR ONLY PROBLEMO, SO BUY PLENTY OF AAAAAAAAMMO!

    1. AKLady2015 says

      Are you stamping your foot to go along with the childish screaming?

  53. Snoopy says

    Read that “Total gun confiscation!” and you have a winner! What they cannot get through their thick heads is the fact that there are literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of guns out there that are NOT registered. So when they take away all the LEGAL guns, guess what will be left!! And guess who will HAVE them!
    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns! Where DOES that leave the law abiding citizens???
    Nuff Said!

  54. Alleged Comment says

    THE Hawaiian traitor is some odd balding Filipino. I’m not sure if he is a SODOMITE like the negro up there.

    You should NEVER trust sodomites. They don’t even know where to stick their thingy.

  55. soldier for liberty says

    A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”

    – Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

  56. soldier for liberty says

    “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

    – Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

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  58. Gammi2Anna says

    The most important reason they want to be able to trace guns back to the owner is not to find the criminal but to find a scapegoat to blame rather than the criminal. If a gun owner has a weapon stolen or needs to sell the gun and follows all the laws of notification of the sale, he or she will most likely still be held liable for the crimes committed using that gun. Why? Because the Government, on any level, is basically incapable of doing anything correctly. Correctness, accuracy, common sense or just plain responsibility are foreign to most if not all government officials. But this is all OK because the government is not about finding the real criminal that commits a crime. They want to find someone else to blame or bring a lawsuit against because it might become a racist issue if they pursue the actual criminal. Remember that our government has yet to blame the self identified Islamic husband and wife terrorist team for killing and wounding many of the husbands co-workers in CA. The investigation is still based on trying to find a scapegoat rather than pronounce that they were two murderous heathens that should have never been in America in the first place, had the government done their job sufficiently. For their crimes, the government wants to take away my gun. What does this mean? Government disarmament of all honest citizens that follow the laws when making a gun purchase because the government fears honesty. it is not in their vocabulary.

  59. Charlie says

    Representation that ignores our foundation of our nation our nation’s Constitution is not representation . If representatives can not stay within parameters set forth by our nation’s founding fathers then said representatives should be forced by law to step away from public political servitude to We the People .

  60. Gerry Costa says

    The state which supplied us with the phony birth certificate for the fraud in our White House. Figured it had to start with them or Caliphony. Absolutely it is only the first step, if we allow this — our only recourse later will be Revolution II.

  61. donl says

    My supervisor, who grew up in Poland and HATES those “commie bastards” said the very first thing the Commies do is take your guns, then they will control the press. He said they even “attend” your church and choose what passages from the bible are allowed to be talked about in church. ( Obie & Hilly ).

  62. soldier for liberty says

    Buy ammo your going to need it!

  63. soldier for liberty says

    For those who don’t know 5.56 or 223 ,9mm, 45acp , 762.x39 and 7.62x 51 you want to have weapons that shoot these so in the event of war you can commandeer ammo you know from dead soliders.blue helmets and such Your hunting cartridges and will dry up. But these will be plentiful on the battlefield,

  64. soldier for liberty says

    The next Civil war will have a far different out come! And it’s coming.

  65. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says

    At the time the constitution was written, “A well regulated militia” meant that the people were proficient in the use of firearms” It had NOTHING to do with gun control!

  66. Alan404 says

    First this all inclusive list, followed by that knock on the door. Relax, it’s all for your own good.

  67. xeriscapelady says

    We need to get ALL liberals out of office before they totally destroy America. Their plan is ONE WQORLD gov and we are slaves at that point. Only TRUMP can protect this from happening. He is not bought and paid for like ALL the rest ( but a few who stand with him). He knows the truth that BOTH parties and LIB want total control of America and no freedom left. Listen carefully to wehat they are saying. They HATE America. Our 2nd amendment rights have been all but stripped from us. Wake up America and vote for TRUMP in Nov. i you want your freedom.

  68. Jerry Lev says

    This is extremely dangerous. If the DIC, (dingbats in charge) do push this through one of the most powerful things people there can do is refuse to comply en mass. Do it in a coordinated fashion such as selecting a day/date in which all of the participant announce their refusal to comply. The state could not possibly enforce it nor would arresting some and/or fining some and not everyone hold up in a court of law. This could be followed by a grass roots drive to hold a referendum as well as promising any of the DIC’s that anyone of them who voted in favor of this will be voted out of office at the next election cycle.

  69. Gunflint Roseberg says

    Push comes to shove is what it’s all about..When are We the People going to start shoving back? With Fixed elections, Criminals running for Office, Unconstitutional laws, & Lap dog appointed” Judges.
    The time is come to take our Country back, one way or another.

  70. Mr Chris says

    Looks like to me that the USA already has a gun registration database!
    Here’s the link fo the official BATF Federal Arms Licensees:
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/listing-federal-firearms-licensees-ffls-2016

  71. wonduh says

    My hands aren’t cold yet.

  72. Doc Eckleburg says

    Never register your guns, and never give up your guns. N E V E R!!!!

  73. joe says

    Mass disarmament is indeed their goal but HOW will they accomplish that task? There is an estimated 300 million guns currently in the country and they cannot possibly get them all.

  74. Gunflint Roseberg says

    If the Government /Criminals give up they’re guns… I will then give up mine..

  75. John Gagne says

    Federal Gun Registry would be unconstitutional, for which they can’t force anyone to break constitutional law.

  76. oldwestman says

    Can anyone please explain the so called gun show loophole? I have purchased firearms at gun shows and had to fill out the same paper work as at a brick and mortar shop plus I had to pay to have the firearm shipped to a dealer some what near me and could not pick up the piece until the required waiting period had elapsed, and as an added bonus I got to pay the shop a fee for the transfer as well. So where was the loop hole? I don’t get it!

  77. Roy Fredrichsen says

    Hawaii has made a big mistake passing such a law. How soon they forget December 7,1941. The ONLY reason Japan DID NOT land ground forces was because THEY knew Americans had too many guns.

  78. gotabgood says

    “A WELL REGULATED Militia, being NECESSARY to the SECURITY of a FREE STATE, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Which states are being threaten?
    Where is the “WELL REGULATED MILITIA” and who is in charge?
    Gun and ammo sales are up since Obama took office… if he is trying to take your guns away, it would have been much better if he made that his top priority… don’t you think?

  79. Mr Bill 13 says

    They know that the criminals will pay no more attention to this law than they do to any other. They just want a list of possible opponents to their plans.

  80. Robert Cruder says

    This is hilarious!

    As if licensing your car is a devious way to take your cars away.

    No one cares whether you have guns unless you are a nut-job.

    So just keep eliminating any doubt.

  81. Paul Pray says

    Those of the state legislature and state senate who voted should be ousted from government, either by vote or replaced by 2nd amendment….It is kinda our own fault by remaining inactive in politics and the course of this nation by remaining IDLE, now it comes closer……This country remains as free as with the amount of amount of the right of the 2nd amendment…..

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