Man Punched In Face After Attacker Confirmed He Wasn’t Carrying


On July 31, a Neptune Beach 15-year-old walked up on a man who was alone, minding his own business. The teenager asked the man if he had a Glock. The man, confused, told the boy that he wasn’t carrying a weapon. That was all the teenager needed to hear. He punched the stranger in the face, making him the latest victim of the “knockout game,” a dangerous pastime that involves knocking out innocent and unsuspecting strangers. Several victims have been killed as a result of the game, and the Neptune Beach victim didn’t want to see that happen. He drew a knife after being attacked, a move that was apparently enough to send the teenager and his compatriots running.

Reports of this insidious game go back as far as 1992, though the last couple of years have seen a tremendous upswing in the trend. Unfortunately, there appears to be a racial element to the attacks, and most of the widely-reported incidents have been very much color-coordinated: black men and teens attacking white people. Republicans in New York and Wisconsin, among others, have strongly considered legislation that would elevate sentencing for Knockout Game assailants. Thus far, however, these bills have not come to fruition.

Of course, the Neptune Beach incident isn’t so much a warning about the Knockout Game as it is a reminder of the kind of situation you can find yourself in on any given day. You don’t have to live in Bed-Stuy to run up against violence. No one wants to walk around in a world where they could be attacked at any moment, but that’s the world we live in. True, if you are cognizant of your surroundings and don’t go out of your way to antagonize people, the chances of running into a violent conflict are slim. But don’t make the mistake of believing they are nonexistent.

There are a number of options a right-thinking person might explore before pulling a gun in a violent situation, of course. One should always make every effort to avoid those situations to begin with, and it is strongly preferable to use your wits to get out of a situation before it escalates. Depending on the circumstances, it may be better to engage in hand-to-hand combat before turning to weaponry.

At the end of the day, however, each of us has the right to protect ourselves and a moral obligation to protect our loved ones. As the Neptune Beach man demonstrated, a knife can sometimes be just the trick. But you can’t always count on your attacker to run away when presented with a knife. Meanwhile, any survey you come across will show that criminals don’t want anything to do with armed victims. There are too many easier targets out there. If you can avoid making yourself one of them, why not consider it?

  1. Elizabeth Miller says

    Bath house Barry is one of them

  2. Miguel526 says

    Another one of Barry’s boys acting out his racist hatred.

    1. michaelcain says

      This hatred will bring back the K K K and I am sure that the civil blacks do not want that . so clean up your house

      1. Mark Clemens says

        Not the Klan! Come on, thats a hate group, I’m Catholic they wanna kill my kind. I’m not sure why,Catholicism was one of the first Christian religions. Let’s leave those people out of this.

        1. michaelcain says

          Then convince those thugs to behave. or ELSE

          1. Mark Clemens says

            We can’t let a mad dog unchained because of some kids most of us could whip bare handed.Turn the Klan loose then the Skin Heads will follow, then the Black Panthers will activate too.
            To much flower for a nickel, not enough for a dime…….

          2. RMCSRET says

            It seems Mark that the Black Panthers are already on the loose. It seems that I
            heard bounties being issued during the Murder trial in Florida and the slime who
            was killed in Ferguson, and the killing and marches In New York. Also I did not
            see any mention of Religion in the main story so why is that an issue now. It seems
            to me that the issue is that these young thugs have no real respect for Life or the
            law. So these are the issues that need to me discussed and cured. Seems that
            black on White crime is every expanding and nothing is being done about it. I am
            just waiting of the Police FREE zones in New York so we can see the real

          3. Mark Clemens says

            Well the Black Panthers are wrong. Why would you wanna bring in another hate group? This is a nation of law and order. The mob does not rule here. We have police, courts, and prisons for such folks as the black panthers. If you like a mob rules society, look at the middle east. That is what the black panthers and kkk want to reduce us to……..

          4. RMCSRET says

            Well lets just see here, if you like MOB RULE look to the Obama Administration
            with Eric Holder not punishing Black Panthers were hung up for prosecution in
            Philadelphia. The Panthers also broke the law in Florida by issuing bounties of
            people. The mob in Ferguson spurred on by the likes of Eric Holder and Al
            Sharpton along with Barack Obama. You might look to New Yorks major stating
            he is thinking of standing up Police Free zones in New York City, Black on white
            violence in Virginia Beach Virginia and no trial, How many blacks have been tried
            for the Hit and Run tactics that this story mentions. Murder run rampant in
            Chicago, Washington DC, Phildelphia and Detroit and other large Metro areas
            yet we see nothing being done by the Leftist Mayors and city councils except to
            raise taxes once again.

          5. Mark Clemens says

            Who did they place a bounty on? Why hasn’t the local law enforcement done anything to them? There are more law enforcement here than Obama and Holder.
            Why don’t you shoot up some Black Panthers, to make all of this right? You would be standing your ground. Florida has that law.

          6. RMCSRET says

            The bounty was place on Mr Zimmerman and his family. You tell me why the
            Local or for that matter the Federal Police take care of this? Seems this is a HATE
            CRIME to me that should be punished under FEDERAL LAW (ERIC HOLDER).
            I don’t commit crimes like murdering people since I recognize the Law of the Land
            and Obey it. Secondly I am not in Florida or Ferguson MS.

          7. Mark Clemens says

            Hu? I remember that now. Florida does have a no bounty (other than official law enforcement) law. You could drive to Florida or Ferguson.
            You might need a Panther Stamp on your hunting license. Other than that I’d say your good to go………

          8. The Old One says

            Did you say that this is a nation of law and order? Where have you been for the last 6 1/2 years ?

          9. Mark Clemens says

            Tennessee, you haven’t seen us on the news for stupid stuff like Ferguson or anything mentioned above. Yep, I live in a State that still has, Stills, law and order. You should leave your states madness, and live here. Anyways, who really cares how they do it in NYC, Chicago, or DC? Just a bunch of crooks making the laws, up there…….

          10. Angry American says

            Starting with the intimidation that the black panthers did at the polls in 2008 & holder refused to prosecute any of them even though they had many complaints & had them on camera carrying base ball bats. Welcome to the “new America” where blacks can now get away with things that they would have been sent to prison for just a few years ago, in other words pre obama the disgrace of a president & I use the word president very loosely. I would never say he is my president & those that do have no shame in them selves

          11. chamuiel says

            Black Panthers = Democrats.
            KKK = Democrats

          12. Mark Clemens says

            No, when the homosexuals (Pink Panthers) Rose up, the DNC sent a black dude to the White House. The KKK dropped out of the Democrats party and moved to the Republican and Tea Party.
            Look how dumb and 2 faced the Tea Party is…..
            Cry for 6.5 years about Obama’s birth place, and eligibility to be president. Who are they backing? A dude from Canada!!!! With damn near the same biography as Obama.

          13. ipsd48 says

            You really shouldn’t flaunt your ignorance

          14. ward says

            stupid is as stupid you are with a shitty bo attitude of deceitful lies & B.S. … !

          15. ward says

            bo = commie, muslim traitor …. !

          16. EDWARD MIKAN says

            THAT WAS LONG AGO & IS A JOKE NOW!!!!
            U S ARMY VETERAN

          17. EDWARD MIKAN says

            U S ARMY VETERAN

          18. Angry American says

            I have been there & it isn’t safe for anyone to walk the street no matter who you are

          19. BQRealityBites says

            You missed the point – these “kids” purposefully pick out people THEY know they can handle and surprise – it’s not like they are walking up to the bulked out bodybuilder dude (or woman) and attacking them now is it?
            Notice WHO they choose to attack – and who THEY are. It’s ALREADY gotten down to a RACIST level! Do I approve of it? He!! NO! But I do favor FIGHTING BACK. Problem is – even if I were to set up an organization to teach WHITE people to !) Recognize when they are NOT in a good situation 2) Recogniza a predator before the predator acts so they can prepare and 3) Fight the predator skillfully I would instantly be branded a racist what’s the solution? When my german shepherd sees another dog – if that dog cowers at her presence it is instinct for my dog to attack the weakness (I don’t let her as dogs are my thing and I don’t want any of them hurt) Point is, I can not train that instinct out of my dog – I’ve tried – I can direct it elsewhere or distract it BUT it is always there. Ican however, train the cowering dog to be more confident by socializing it with other dogs – big and small. It is not the dog that my dog “attacks” – it’s the weakness she sees. Remove the weakness and the story will be different.

          20. Mark Clemens says

            …….and your point? We should bully the small and weak? We should skip the law, and let the KKK do their thang? Look what happened to 3 Florida prison guards who belonged to the Klan.
            Two wrongs have never made a right.

          21. ipsd48 says

            Having and exhibiting self confidence is NOT the same as bullying

          22. BQRealityBites says

            Wow – I didn’t think my point was all that well hidden – my point is – PREPARE YOURSELF – don’t let yourself become a target – don’t be seen as one of the weak. Notice the point about being called a racist in the beginning? That was in recognition of the fact that white people can NOT be seen to get together FOR THEIR OWN GOOD – they are only allowed to join forces when giving their time/effort/money for another group. SO – as the cowering dog needed – I am asking EVERYONE to “remove the weakness”. Get training, get a CCL, KNOW the law, be ready and be vigilant. Most importantly – project that in the form of confidence so that you are NOT A TARGET of these scumbags. And if you become one – do NOT be afraid to fight back with the skills you’ve prepared yourself with. Do NOT cower at the politically correct BS – the only person who cares about you more than you do is probably your Mom and she probably won’t be around when something goes down and if she is she won’t be much help (unless she is the one carrying at that time!) so screw the PC crowd!

          23. rchguns says

            I don’t necessarily disagree with your sentiment but this statement is no better than radical Islam. Absolutely no religion has the right to force anyone to believe in its doctrine.

            In my much younger years I found that there were very few individuals that I had anything to fear from because of my size and training. I maybe over the hill but I’m not under the hill yet and I never leave home without being armed.

            The answer to the problem is to put more of these individuals who want to play this game into the ground no warning shots no warning communication just shoot the little bastard can be done with it. Remember if your license to carry you never under any circumstances tell anyone whether you are carrying are not is none of their damn business and they want to know for some reason it’s time to go on alert at the first aggression you kill him.

          24. patriotdaddy says

            nobody is asking them to believe in our doctrine……we are not discussing religion here…..we are discussing the reverse racism that has hit this country…..and when we all start shooting ethnic children because none of their own parents or “adults” punish them for their crimes nor do they teach them better than this….there is NO stopping the white supremacists from taking them out!!!! i have NEVER been a racist! i grew up in southside of chicago and still never became a racist…..yet i am smart enough to know that if there is no check put in place on these ethnic youngsters……the supremacists will come out of hiding and and run them all back into the sea……….this is how racism starts….

          25. rchguns says

            .Stop community look at what you’re saying, you want to Constitution that is based on a religion. Our current Constitution is actually based on Judeo-Christian beliefs. It’s not the Constitution of the problem is the people that we’ve elected that are the problem. In the Koran this is you don’t have to believe in the doctrine and they give you three choices. One you convert, to you pay a special tax or sold into slavery, and three they chop your head off, But you have the choice.

            Politics was never meant to be a career! Members of the community served because they felt that they could make a difference and help the other members of the community after they serve their term they went back to their farm or business and continue their life. The only way that our nation can survive is that if we get rid of all career politicians and replace them with Americans.

            My Godfather was black and my godmother was Chinese I didn’t know there was such a thing as racism until I got into the military and only then in the late 60s. America has to get rid of 100% of all hyphenated Americans; African-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Asian-Americans, European-Americans, and anything else- Americans. If you can’t be an American first and foremost and give your allegiance to the Republic and you should be instantly deported back to wherever you came from.

            That’s not to say that Americans of African descent, Americans of Mexican or Spanish dissent, Americans of Asian origin, or even Americans who happen to come from Europe at one time these are all cultures that when blended make for a very diverse and unified nation. It used to be the immigrants came to America because they wanted a better life with the future and to become Americans that’s why we became the greatest nation on earth.

            The social progress is taking over our school systems are young people no longer know what it means to be an American, what their rights are, and more importantly what their responsibilities are. We had to have generations of ignorant people being used as a weapon of destruction to everything that Americans should hold dear.

            Having never been a racist I find it very uncomfortable looking at the future as it stands now and find myself almost being forced to be a racist just to survive. If the differences between survival of my family and becoming a racist as far as I’m concerned there is no difference family comes first country comes second the rest can go to hell

          26. john robel says

            Racism is racism, reverse racism would be lack of racism.

          27. BQRealityBites says

            The term is used in response to the FORCED UPON NOTION that black people can NOT be racists – sure they can – as your post indicates racism is racism – except when you change the definition of it to meet your needs. So while you are correct – in ..let’s say “colloquial” terms – the phrase came about out of necessity – call it “social justice lingo”.

          28. Angry American says

            Instead of blacks can not be racist, tell it like it is blacks are very racist even if they have no reason to be just because they heard something is reason enough for them

          29. PayTheMan says

            its pervasive… our nation is infirm. white thugs attack innocent blacks and vice versa. latinos are in there as well and other racial groups. this amazing experiment we call democracy and freedom fails when lines of communication are not established or break down… or people just let fear dominate their lives to the exclusion of other attributes like kindness and empathy and curiosity and just plain good juju among men and women. some would say we lost our way with god… others with democracy and freedom itself…. others with religious bickering and intolerance. i don’t know… but i do know a nation in cultural angst when i see one.

            my honest opinion… trying to be as nonpartisan as i can be is this: i think an intellectual black man (whether you think he is smart or not) in the white house with a possible woman on the way has brought some folks out of the woodwork.

          30. PayTheMan says

            Okay… But then you are either in jail for a long time or your tied up in court for years and have to go incognito. A normal person will find a better equally effective non lethal solution.

          31. studi30 says

            Of the hundreds of thousands of righteous shootings in the US every year, especially in the 43 concealed carry States, the one defending themselves don’t go to jail. Even in the deep blue State of NJ, which is a gun free zone, thugs have been shot in home invasions and the homeowner wasn’t charged. There is no effective nonlethal solution. A a man with a knife can travel 20′ in less than 2 seconds. No one can get their gun out in that time. A thug high on drugs can still kill you even after being shot 4 or 5 times, as until the blood pressure goes down to the point of passing out, the body still functions.

          32. rchguns says

            As were finding out now when it comes to the different minority and special-interest groups are prisons can only accept so many and then there turned loose. The government can put us all in jail and the majority of Americans are good people it’s a vocal minority that are using the press as a bludgeon to beat the rest of society down are going to find themselves on the short end of the stick. Americans are very peaceful and loving people we are very slow to anger (which sometimes is not a good thing) but once we get past the proverbial excrement is going to strike the wind generating machine. And that point is going to be reached between now and 2016. After all Americans to choose your side and choose carefully because things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

          33. Mark Clemens says

            If you are in Tennessee, WARNING SHOTS are UNLAWFUL. Our Judges don’t want to figure out if it was a warning shot, or if you’re a poor shot………..

          34. Btty says

            Rchguns I love your way of dealing with thugs! Living in CA I don’t carry a gun but I carry a weapon at all times! I wish that little -astard would try that on me! People need to fight back!! Stop being a f-ing victim

        2. Timothy Taylor says

          Catholicism is THE first Christian Church. It is built upon the Rock…Simon Peter. The 12 apostles represent symbolically the 12 tribes of Israel. Catholic merely means universal.

          1. Ron Warren says

            That is a biased interpretation of New Testament scripture. Jesus did not refer to Simon Peter as a “rock.” “Peter” is English for “Petros” which is the Greek word for “pebble.” Jesus built His Church upon Himself, the mass “granite” boulder.

          2. Mark Clemens says

            ……Ok, so why does the KKK wanna kill me?

          3. chamuiel says

            They are Democrats.
            Democrats want to kill every one.

          4. Angry American says

            Are you caucasian? If you are, that is enough for the black panthers to want you dead

          5. BQRealityBites says

            Who said they did?

          6. Mark Clemens says

            The Creed of the KKK. They hate Jews also.

          7. Joe T says

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 18:40
            Input Info KKK update…sad but true

            June 24, 2012

            David Duke of the KKK hates Jews/Zionists more than blacks

            By Ethel C. Fenig

            Members of the KKK by definition hate Jews, and hate blacks.
            So what would they do if a black person, who also hated Jews/Zionists and,
            separately, whites in general, ran for office? For KKK member David Duke, a
            proud member of the Louisiana state legislature, this was no problem–hating
            Jews trumps hating blacks. And so Duke, crawled out of the Louisiana swamps
            long enough to release a video endorsing Charles Barron, a black wannabe
            NewYork State legislator involved in a Democratic primary, who is also volubly anti Jewish and anti Israel.

            Read more:

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          8. BQRealityBites says

            Isn’t it odd that Peter was the one who denied him? I just find that ironic…

        3. Peatro Giorgio says

          Actually one of the First Religion s was Coptic Christianity. 12 AD. In Egypt. 5 hat is 12 years after Christ Ascension. One hundred and eighty eight years before Constitute ever Saw the Cross in the Sun

        4. chamuiel says

          The Democrats want to kill you?

          1. Mark Clemens says

            No, the KKK. The KKK went Republican, after they found out The Democrats want us all to turn homosexual. Don’t you watch the news?????

        5. studi30 says

          Catholicism was the first Christian religion. Protestantism came in the 1500s when Henry the 8th left the Catholic Church, the main religion of England, and started the Church of England. He did this so he could divorce any wife he chose, as Catholicism forbid divorce. All the signers of the Constitution were Church of England Protestant. The Catholics were generally hated here by the populace. The Irish are Catholic and that is where the animosity comes from in England. Right after the Revolutionary War, the Church of England became the Episcopalians in the new United States. The Southern Dims who started the KKK in 1865 are Protestants who hate the blacks, the Catholics and the Christ killing Jews. White supremacists today are just an extension of the KKK.

          1. Jeanne Stotler says

            Early Catholic settlement in Maryland, called Mary’s land, for Our Blessed Mother, there is a very old Catholic Chapel still in existence. Also Many Missionaries were here, they built the monastaries all along California coast. Fr. Isaac Jouques was an early missionary among the Indians, had special permission to continue saying Mass after having his hand mutilated.

        6. LibertyLovingPatriot says

          St. Peter was the first pope. Catholicism WAS the first Christian religion, NOT one of the first.

        7. john robel says

          Catholicism was the FIRST Christian church. Every other is a spinoff. Luther, Westley, Young, all of them. Peter was the first pope.

        8. Joe T says

          Mark…….Because of our path to salvation thru the belief in Jesus Christ via resurrection, etc

          For God So Loved John C3 V16
          16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 “For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.…Cross References Genesis 22:2

          best regards, Joe T

          Islam does not believe this about Jesus Christ…hence Satan’s doing for cause.

        9. Joe T says

          Ghostwriter communique’
          parallel time 14:15
          Input Info To believe or not to believe is the reason.

          Islamic teaching does not believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior.

          John 3:16 For God So Loved

          16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.…

          John 3:18

          Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:36

          Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

          John 6:40

          For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

          John 11:25

          Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.

      2. ihatelibs says

        I/WE don’t need no KKK . I/WE can carry now . And , THIS is exactly why I , OPEN carry sometimes my RUGER SUPER RED HAWK 44MAG . 10″ BBL STAINLESS . On my Hip . Leaves No Doubt.. To those punks ?? I say , hit away

        1. PayTheMan says

          We never needed the kkk… Wgat a bizarre comment. We needed for poor black folks to,carry which would have ended the cowardly kkk… You seem to have the whole history thing completely backwards.

          1. john robel says

            KKK were democrats who hated Lincoln. NAACP was founded by the GOP.

          2. kafir4life says

            The Democrat party has ALWAYS been the party of racism, slavery, and segregation. Remember when Quickzipper Clinton eulogized a Democrat Senator who was a Grand Poobah of Clinton’s organization, kkk? Quickzipper thought that President Stinky (BO) should be bringing him his coffee, and the child molester Harry Reid indicated that the Democrat party liked him because he was “light skinned enough” and “didn’t speak with a Negro accent unless he wants to”. The Democrat party also selected a half black man whose ancestors weren’t slaves, but instead sold slaves to the European slave traders.

          3. PayTheMan says

            you can’t possibly be serious. within the past 3 decades, the republicans have revealed themselves clearly on the point of race and socioeconomic status as those who champion white (mostly) and rich (nearly completely).

          4. Joe T says

            Ghostwriter communique’

            parallel time 21:49

            Input Info Edification for the pseudo pundits.

            Republicans freed the slaves…not Democrats etcetera.

            Republicans not Democrats championed for ethnic blacks.

            Just maybe they are beginning to see the light. They and the millenniums see that the illegals are taking their jobs and that the Freebees are not really free. It has cost a lot more than they thought. If you look at history, you can see the kind of people the liberal democrats were and still are.

            DID YOU KNOW that in 1862

            Republican President Lincoln abolished Slavery. Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1865 the 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South and After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1871. Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans DID YOU KNOW in 1894 Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1981 Republican President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1991 Republican President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 2 strengthen federal civil rights legislation.

            DID YOU KNOW in 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law.

            The liberal Democract want the blacks to be dependent on them which will make them salves to the Democratic government. .

          5. PayTheMan says

            you always have some important stuff to post… but the parties changed (swapped) perspectives somewhere around that time. same names… but theys swapped their philosophies… its one of the quirks of the political history of this nation. the republicans of old are the ancestors of the democrats today. someone else on this site (maybe you) will know more than i about this.

          6. Retired_Soldier says

            Not true. What the Democrats of today are doing is using race to advance other left wing agendas. I’m often reminded of what Che Guevara said after the revolution in 1959: “We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing.” The same thing will be true again.

          7. PayTheMan says

            i will agree the race card is played too casually (because there are a lot of GOOD reasons to play and so it gets watered down… boy who cried wolf scenario). and i did not know that about che… and some of his language was really ugly (looked it up at your prompt) but that was, to be painfully fair, another time. it reveals he was sort of normal on that topic of race.. certainly not enlightened. but when there ARE many legit race topics to address AND the demos are playing the race card… i would have to preliminarily conclude that sometimes it is underhanded and with ulterior motives and sometimes its legit and warranted. but the repubs in congress are more often (and many always) on the wrong side of the race card used well or not unless its the white christian race we are discussing. its all ugly over there… we as discerning consumers of that nonsense have to parse the legit well intended efforts from the pandering and manipulations. i would only trust the most bonefied neutral media… not fox, not msnbc… its a tough field out there. perhaps some international news media might be best as they are hopefully more immune from the politics of our games.

          8. Retired_Soldier says

            Having lived in nine countries, some for as long as 39 months, I can tell you they are no better. If you truly would like to know what’s going on here is something to read or listen to. Former CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson’s “Who’s pulling the media’s puppet strings” Do a google search for it and it will come up. She gave a TEDx (information for everybody) presentation at the University of Nevada. IT WAS A REAL EYEOPENER!!!

          9. PayTheMan says

            Will definitely check that out. And i respect your international perspective but if any of it came while actively serving, the experience was necessarily influenced by your circumstances. Yet, that is still an impressive record. My record is possibly deeper but less broad in that i have lived for many months at a time with subsistence and indigenous groups… And i can say we have much to learn from them. But, our condition in this country may well be the human condition… Maybe we are as great and as conflicted and struggling as any other nation once push comes to shove. I will check that out. Thanks.

          10. grunion says

            Isn’t the Peace Corps. wonderful!!!

          11. PayTheMan says

            yeah… well intended white folks going to help out brown folks who don’t necessarily want any help. right up my alley but i never did that. instead, i study rainforests and the indigenous folks who live within them. so, that’s my gig and my in. different than living on a military base. i’m starting to like this grunion.

          12. PayTheMan says

            good talk. i talk everyone should hear but will bring their own brand of preconception to the very talk that suggests that they begin to critically think. so, for some disclosure, i don’t pretend to know much about politics as i am a scientist who knows a lot about science and not much else about the rest of knowledge. from that perspective, when she began her talk, she mentioned the way people do “research”… and i recognized that what she was referencing as “research” had only one element of real research in the long list including wikipdeia, twitter, google etc: the peer reviewed scientific article. as one trained to read and write those peer reviewed articles, my wife (also a phd) and i realized that our obstetrician could not well defend his very strong believe that a certain type of pregnancy was high risk. we went to the very articles he cited. we talked the authors of those articles. we got the raw data from the various authors and reanalyzed them ourselves. we drew a conclusion from that effort opposite to our doctor and the association for gynecologists and obstetricians. ironically, the day our kid was born (disregarding “medical advice” was the same day that the association downgraded our type of birth to a LOW risk.

            all that to say that i am a professional analyst of complex data. however, that said, politics does not interest me enough to engage deeply in it and so i claim NO expertise here. i am just a joe like many others and can learn a lot from folks like you who likely think more about this topic than i do.

            but i am expert in topics like climate change. Try this just as an exercise: listen to what she said AS IF climate change were real… and big oil and the govt that protects it would stop at nothing to obfuscate, confuse, complexify, deny, and distract the public. that is the frustration that i feel with how we as a nation are confronting the science (the data… NOT the politics) of the changing atmospheric chemistry.

          13. grunion says

            I keep hoping you will auto-combust but so far, you are not cooperating.

          14. PayTheMan says

            holy crap… you think i would with all that hot air and piss mixing around… but i just don’t. can’t understand it. really… if you can give me an extension… i’ll do what i can to auto-combust next week…. or, maybe the following. problem is everytime i enter this site i release all the gasses… lessening the chances. i have to shut up to combust… and the chances of that are so damn slim.

          15. David says

            Do you really expect anyone to believe you watch anything besides MSNBC. Please……………

          16. Aldo nova says

            To bad the constitution did not include abolishing slavery in it.that was the only fault of it says all men were created equally which you have to admit is a highly hipocritical statement of the time considering slavery then was still allowed! But I also realize it was a different era back then but I think the constitution would be more meaningful to blacks if it had included them. Blacks did fight in this war too! Maybe we could have avoided the civil war had this been done by our founding fathers!

          17. Retired_Soldier says

            If you read the debates that occurred at Independence Hall in Philadelphia you soon realize that if what you suggest was included, we would not have a constitution.

          18. Aldo nova says

            I know about a lot of it but admit I don’t know much about that part would like to know more about it if you would but I thought what I said made sense considering where we now are in this world with race issues.

          19. Retired_Soldier says

            Smarter people than you or I should have realized that any type of slavery, physical or economic, is wrong … flat wrong!

          20. Btty says

            You tried but didn’t quite make it. The democrats of today are the Commie party, the Republicans party today are the democratic party of the 60s. What we need is a Republican party with a set of balls!

          21. Retired_Soldier says

            Here! here!

          22. Btty says

            Thank you Retired_Soldier. A double thank you for your service to this country. Your one of my hero’s. God Bless you!

          23. Retired_Soldier says

            Thank you Btty. All the Best to You.

          24. Victor Archuleta says

            I became involved in the internet posts in an attempt to calm the really angry people. Thanks to a New York Times article, Feb. 15, 2010, “Tea Party Lights Fuse for Rebellion on Right”, I was persuaded that I should do even more. I thought the Tea Party was to be the new backbone for the Republican party.

          25. luvbach1 says

            Bull jive. The Democrats claim Thomas Jefferson who was a conservative. And Abraham Lincoln was not a proto-Democrat

          26. Aldo nova says

            That’s not true but I think I know what your trying to say. You have two types of type mimics democrats,the other type is the real traditional republican who is more conservative.the problem is the first type of republicans are almost as far left as some democrats and the traditional republicans are the good guys on your side.the problem is that unless all republicans are conservative they cannot do their job because the non conservatives fight them every time they try to make govt better! That’s the problem!its rinos against good guys!

          27. David says

            Anyone on this site knows more about everything than you. Like most socialists you think you know and have the most basic information supplied by the socialist propaganda machine but are truly uninformed.

          28. Retired_Soldier says

            Now Democrats have them on another type of plantation … and most don’t even realize it.

          29. Btty says

            Great post Joe. Thanks

          30. Joe T says

            Thanks Btty………..just trying to keep the liberals honest……….without bias.
            best wishes, Joe T

          31. pineapple says

            , Lincoln was a racist who was also guilty of
            war crimes and is responsible for the deaths of 600,000 Americans.

            In 1858, during a debate with
            Stephen Douglas, Abraham Lincoln said: “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor
            of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and
            black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or
            jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry
            with white people….” (Google Lincoln-Douglas debates.)

            It is commonly taught that
            the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the
            impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through
            Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred
            to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union.
            Andrew Jackson threatened to send
            federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it
            to Washington.
            (See “Kearney’s
            March” by Winston Groom.)

            This tariff was used to build
            roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for

            Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would
            eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.

            When the southern states
            threatened secession, Lincoln
            was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let
            the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service
            Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)

            Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation excluded slave states
            that remained in the Union and certain parishes in Louisiana that were under control of Union
            troops. It only applied to states in the Confederacy, which was a sovereign
            nation, over which Lincoln
            had no legal authority.

            Therefore, his proclamation
            did not free slaves anywhere.

            Slaves were eventually freed
            by passage of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 6th, 1865.

            Some of the many atrocities
            committed by Lincoln’s
            Union Army are as follows:

            Lincoln ordered General Sherman to “make Georgia howl.” So Sherman
            marched through Georgia
            burning not only towns, villages, factories and grist mills, but also burning
            crops, leaving women, children, and the elderly to starve. Sherman captured more than two thousand white
            women and children who were sent to the North to work at sustenance level pay,
            making them virtual slaves for the Yankees. They were never returned to their

            Union Colonel
            John B. Turchin was court-martialed for letting his troops “plunder and pillage
            the inhabitants” of Athens,
            Alabama, and allowing several of
            his soldiers to commit rape on the person of a colored girl. After being
            convicted, Turchhin was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General by Abraham
            Lincoln and continued to serve in the Union Army until Oct 4, 1864.

            In Marion County
            Missouri, Gen. John McNeil threw southern sympathizers in jail for expressing a
            pro-Southern point of view. When a Union informer came up missing, McNeil
            threatened to kill ten of these men if the informer did not show up. When the
            informer didn’t show up, these men were summarily executed. Shortly afterwards,
            McNeil was promoted to Brigadier General by Lincoln.

            In 1862, several tribes of Native Americans
            revolted against the cruel policies of the United States government. This
            caused Minnesotans to fear for their safety. General John Pope rounded up 300
            warriors, out of which Lincoln
            selected thirty nine to be executed. These Native Americans were executed to
            assuage the fears of white Minnesotans so they would vote for the re-election
            of Lincoln,
            which they did. (For details of the above and other atrocities, see, “The South
            was Right” by James and Walter Kennedy.)

            By invading The Confederate
            States of America, a
            sovereign nation, Lincoln
            caused the death of 600,000 Americans, not to end slavery but to hold on to

          32. Aldo nova says

            I hope this ain’t true but maybe it is but I do know that google could be biased on the accuracy on these statements and I will attempt to verify this on other sites.

          33. pineapple says

            You can Google the Lincoln Douglas debates. Another source is”The South was Right” by Kennedy and Kennedy.

          34. Aldo nova says

            You are 100% correct! The only challenge is finding people smart enough to figure it out ,that’s the hard part! I have always been dumbfounded by the ignorance of democratic voters!

          35. glenn398 says

            And the democrats have revealed themselves as taking from the working class and giving to those too lazy to work.

          36. PayTheMan says

            fascinating. and the republicans are not fighting tooth and nail to protect our wealthiest folks? anyone who votes republican for economic reasons who does not make over a million dollars has been duped. now don’t get me wrong, the demos have lost their way too… but no one can seriously defend republican’s protection of the middle or lower clases.

          37. Retired_Soldier says

            You might want to recheck things. The wealthiest people in Congress ARE DEMOCRATS.

          38. PayTheMan says

            maybe… maybe not… but ALL those guys are bought and sold (maybe just a couple of exceptions). i am talking about their politics… and whom they (claim) to be helping… at least the demos claim to help the poor (whether or not they do it) the repubs just come out and admit it: they are the party of the rich and the rest of us can just shove it or enjoy the crumbs that trickle down. they are SO out front about it… it amazes me that they don’t drive away the middle class by the hundreds of thousands. (likely because the demos are a bunch of players too). multiparty system wouldn’t hurt too bad in my book.

          39. Retired_Soldier says

            There are no maybes about it. Check your facts!!!A long time friend of mine was on the Presidential Protection Detail of the Secret Service. I will not say which President, but he was in a position to hear the conversations of politicians of both flavors. What he said to me in my truck going to range one day has stuck with me to this day. He said, referring to politicians, “They’re all scumbags,”

            But there is one thing that I observe from you “PayTheMan” is that you do not research your information. It’s quite obvious that you get your information from the left wing talking heads. And what they do is give you 90 percent true and mix in 10 percent half truths. My suggestion is Don’t believe me, don’t believe your neighbor, don’t believe anybody. Find out how to do good research and then like Nike says, Just do it!

          40. Aldo nova says

            I think your being much too nice more like 60% true,40% false

          41. Retired_Soldier says

            In all honesty Aldo I was giving the classic lie presentation scenerio. There are some so called broadcast journalists who are so bad that even your proportions are generous.

          42. Aldo nova says

            Yeah I agree!

          43. Retired_Soldier says

            Oh one more thing; If a Democrat isn’t wealthy going into Congress, House or Senate, they are when they leave. For example Harry Reed.

          44. pineapple says

            And the Clintons.

            Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York
            State Senator now comes under this fancy “congressional retirement staffing plan” which means that if she never gets re-elected, she STILL
            receives her Congressional salary until she dies.

            If Bill out-lives her, he then inherits HER salary until he dies. He is already
            getting his Presidential salary ($20,000 a month) until he dies. If Hillary out-lives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies, Guess who pays for that? WE DO!

            Clinton’s 20 Acre – $11 million mansion is common knowledge. For
            her to establish NY residency, they purchased this mansion in upscale Chappaqua, New York….makes sense. They are entitled to Secret
            Service protection for life. Still makes sense.

            Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage
            payments are around $10,000/month. But an extra residence had to be
            built by the government on the acreage to house the Secret Service Agents. Any improvement to the property is owned by the property owners…the Clinton’s. So….the Clinton’s charge the federal government $10,000
            monthly rent for the use of the extra residence to house the Secret Service staff
            which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. He is the ONLY ex-president to use this loophole, thus earning the name ‘Slick Willie’.

            This means that we, the taxpayers, pay the Clinton’s, salary, mortgage,
            transportation, safety and security as well as the salaries for their 12 man staff and it is all perfectly legal.


            When she runs for President, will you vote
            for her ?

          45. Aldo nova says

            I couldn’t imagine any body wanting to see zipper man in the whitehouse again with killary!unless they are gluttons for punishment! Look what we already have endured!

          46. PayTheMan says

            Can you run some numbers on the boy king gw bush? I would just be curious how he stacks up being born into so much affluence.

          47. Retired_Soldier says

            Correct on all counts.

          48. Joe T says

            Vote they both get hung

          49. PayTheMan says

            of course… that is what our version (and many others) of government is all about. attracting the lowest dredges of society with the greatest egos and the least talent and giving them the reins so that they can make themselves filthy rich. i wonder which party has people who enter richer …. knowing full well that they all leave rich regardless.

          50. luvbach1 says

            Bulletin: The average Republican is not rich.

          51. PayTheMan says

            yes… the average rank and file… just because of the huge numbers… clearly they cannot all be part of the 1%… just too many. But, the average republican politician is filthy rich. but, then again, so is the average dembo politician. that’s my point. the republican party doesn’t even pretend to be fighting for the middle class where as the democratic party pretends to be doing it. not sure which is worse..

          52. luvbach1 says

            You’re right, politicians get rich in politics, the

            Dems just as much as the Republicans (maybe even more so), so your point, if that was your point, about rich Republicans compared to Dems doesn’t hold water.

          53. David says


          54. grunion says

            So you judge them on the quality of their lies? It is worse than I thought. The liberals will be excused anything!

          55. PayTheMan says

            not sure i follow… if they are lying and i am judging… they don’t fare well regardless the quality of the lie. i apply this objective critique to anyone on either side of the isle. here’s the rub: i am so totally uninterested in US politics and focus nearly all my attention on science that when i talk objectively (as I am deeply trained to do**), others see it as political.

            ** i do slip sometimes when i choose not to act professionally…

          56. pineapple says

            Including the Clintons, Pelosi, et. al.

          57. PayTheMan says

            not sure… but certainly one could find out. if i were to put out a hunch, i would say the repubs enter richer than the average dembo and they all leave filthy rich.

          58. luvbach1 says


          59. Aldo nova says

            That’s because hit man Barry would punish them if they went against him!

          60. Paul Reiner says

            Please shut up the more you talk the Dumber you sound get the corn rolls out of your eyes

          61. PayTheMan says

            I will do you one better paul. Check out pam dunn. Not sure if you,both are single or gay or looking even… But i think you will like eachother. A match made in fixthisnation. Nothing could be more romantic. Good luck… Shes a tough nut to crack… And vice versa based on her own sense of humor?

          62. David says

            PayTheMan you keep watching MSNBC so you know your opinion and keep on drinking that Kool Aid. Your a great example of the typical socialist.

          63. PayTheMan says

            interesting you mention those things… i have never watched MSNBC in my life (i have no TV and don’t watch it on line) and i have never drank kool-aid. And i am more libertarian than socialist. But, and this is the clincher, i am a free thinker in that i don’t follow any particular lead handed to me… i research and discover and inquire more and come up with my own conclusions… rare, i know. so, while you can likely put me in a box… you would need several boxes by the end of the day as no one box would hold me well.

          64. David says

            Well that is all BS but thanks.

            “the republican party doesn’t even pretend to be fighting for the middle class where as the democratic party pretends to be doing it. not sure which is worse”
            You best do some additional research.

          65. luvbach1 says

            The status of blacks has deteriorated under the “compassionate” rule of liberal Democrats, and that’s a fact,

          66. Aldo nova says

            You can’t be serious! For the last 6 years our country has been slowly destroyed by Obama and more blacks have the highest rate of unemployment ,higher than both whites and Hispanics under a democrat you are dead wrong!

          67. David says

            You can’t be serious. You have revealed yourself as a brainwashed uninformed moron. If you had a brain in your head you would see that racism is a leftist tactic that has been used since the 60. The republican party has never championed whites or the rich you idiot. Stop listening to your union and socialist garbage.

          68. cdansreau says

            Seems to me the democrats accepted a black person as president so i think they will accept a black person in any position. it does seem though that obama is taking marching orders from someone unfriendly to the US. Lyndon Johnson generated “the great society”. vietnam and ripped off social security to pay for it. the goal was to have blacks dependent on the democratic party and vote for them. i feel sorry for the blacks that are hard working and ignored by political power and endure the democratic stereotypes of own race. the fact that obama is half white does not make a difference, tothe democrats that he will obey corrupt principles does.

          69. glenn398 says

            Will if you are worried about the hard working blacks you don’t have to worry about very many.

          70. Aldo nova says

            Yes because most of them are unemployed thanks to Barry!

          71. glenn398 says

            No I would blame Johnson’s great society for that one. The program made a husbands support not necessary and so began the break down of the black family. Before that as a family the blacks were working together starting businesses and other activities that would have given their children pride.

          72. billy396 says

            Obama IS the person that’s unfriendly to the U.S. He doesn’t need anyone to give him marching orders to destroy everything that he can about this country because that’s been ingrained into his mind from a very early age and reinforced ever since. His maternal grandfather introduced him to Frank Marshall Davis who helped to indoctrinate him into the Communist party (CPUSA). The domestic terrorists that he befriended in Chicago (William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn) gladly continued his training and helped get him into politics.

          73. Aldo nova says

            This world would be a better place to be if all blacks woke up to who Barry really is and what he really wants to make this country into,then he would no longer have their vote!

          74. Aldo nova says

            Very good point but hopefully others are paying as Much attention to these facts as you!

          75. PayTheMan says

            regardless of their labeling, their actions spoke far louder than any particular categorization.

        2. chamuiel says

          So, you carry a penis symbol/ Why? Is yours small?

          1. john robel says

            God didn’t make men equal, Sam Colt did. You’re the one with the penis problem, dickette.

          2. PayTheMan says

            MLK, Ghandi, and many others did some of that work too… not just colt.

          3. joe says

            You are too stupid for words

          4. Btty says

            Obviously your mind is somewhere other than on topic. Get help!

        3. Btty says

          Obviously you don’t live in CA. Open carry here and your the one jailed for trying to protect yourself. It’s a dirty shame that our azzhole politicians write laws that protect the criminal.

          1. Aldo nova says

            You can blame California’s problems on dumb voters!

          2. Bullfrogman says

            And Ji tbag Brown

          3. Btty says

            Your right but not all of us are dumb Aldo. The facts are that the Dems have stacked the deck in CA and the Republicans let them. They have gotten away with allowing CA to go to Illegals. They have gotten so many on the government dole that now there are more on the give away programs than those who can afford to support it. Guess who is assured to vote Liberal? You got it those on the government dole. Please tell me how you fight that Aldo?? CA sucks big time and is as corrupt as they get. We need money? Higher taxes! Squeeze the working guy as much as possible until they are on the same programs. We can partly thank Moonbeam for our demise.

          4. Aldo nova says

            Yeah your right I was not talking about everyone there of course because I know there are a lot of good decent intelligent people as well but like you say it’s a dam shame that California such a beautiful state is being turned into mexico! It breaks my heart to see parts of our country get so destroyed by these awful politicians who are only looking to enrich their own lives at our expense and are more interested in getting reelected than solving our countries problems!

          5. Btty says

            I couldn’t agree with you more! I to am sick to death of all the crap. I was born and raised in CA and watched my beautiful state go from a thriving growing state under Republican control to a dead nanny state run by demwits. Pretty sad. Thanks Aldo

          6. Aldo nova says

            Your very welcome! I wish I could do something about it but all we can do is vote for the good but that doesn’t always work either unfortunately!

          7. billy396 says

            Try open carry in almost any city, even where it’s 100% legal (like Columbus, Ohio) and you will very shortly find yourself being interviewed by the police. They will cite their right to question anyone who’s openly carrying a gun and they will also claim, true or not, that a citizen or citizens called in to report you because you were scaring the native sheep.

          8. Btty says

            That is very true.

          9. mikeirish says

            Don’t give up rights to remain safe…..

        4. luvbach1 says

          Trouble with open carry, however legal, is that someone ignorant of that right is likely to report “man or woman with a gun” and some police, too, overreact despite the law. I’m not saying don’t do it, but the aforementioned possibility is real and has resulted in deaths.

          1. pineapple says

            Best to carry concealed.

          2. mikeirish says

            Exactly….. Surprise the jerk attacking

        5. mikeirish says

          Swung low for fast draw?

        6. Dobraya Utka says

          You’ll never draw that hawgleg out in enough time to do you any good.

      3. crazyfreddie says


      4. Marilynn Reeves says

        This could sure happen. People are getting feed up with these little punks.

      5. Michael Dennewitz says

        Little does anyone know, but the KKK is already regrouping in Florida, and with good reason. Detective friend of mine told me just today, “Of the last 25 arrests for drugs or any other serious crime, 19 were black!”. But we dare not say this too loudly, these poor Velcro heads are being treated unfairly, and to say ANYTHING makes you RACIST! Yeah, riigghhtttt!!

    2. Mark Clemens says

      He could be Obama’s son……..,,…

  3. brenda Harrell says

    But you don’t hear of any hate crimes on Black on White do you? This is on bath house Barry and Holder.

    1. Timothy-Allen Albertson says

      wait until they leave office with a federal statute of limitations is five years (menaing crimes going back to 12 can still be prosecuted)—hell, the lefties may have repealed the statue of limitations on hate cries altogether

      1. Mark Clemens says

        Most states don’t have statue of limitations any more, except for some low misdemeanor offences.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          If we’re talking about Washington DC. Since the crooks are making the laws. The statute of limitations there might be 30 minutes! !!!!!!!

  4. oat21 says

    We should all carry some means of protection as it appears barry’s boys are on the move again, the attack above and one in NYC just yesterday of a 72 year old white man. Real brave, barry’s boys.

    1. keepyourpower says

      Check out Fight Fast.

    2. Joe_USA says

      These are hate crimes against white people by black people, but holder will not call it, he only cares when a white person goes after a black person.

      1. michaelcain says

        Then pull the race card on him / turnabout is fair play

      2. Lynne Green says

        Youre right .Turnabout should be fair play! I detest any thought of the kkk because they did those evil things to the black people for NO reason except their skin color. However, in return white people should have the same rights that the blacks fought for all those years.It should be the same for all of us.

      3. 1American1st says

        Yeah, good luck with the “Hate Crime” claims.

        A 19 yr old white teen was attacked in South Carolina by 8 black teenaged scum & beaten almost to death, then left for dead. The BLACK Chief of police said it wasn’t a “Hate Crime” because…ready for this one….. you ain’t gonna believe this $hit……here goes… “they had robbed a black person in the past”, therefore, the AH Police Chief “decided” it was not a hate crime.

        Seems to me that a Judge & JURY should have made that decision, not a biased Police Chief.

        This is what the 8 animals did to Carter Strange.

    3. Masculist Man says

      Oh if you hurt one of them they scream like girls and cry “racism” I’m tired of their shit. All they do is shit on everything.

      1. PayTheMan says

        Wow… Read the posts here … That is exactly what we are all doing… Whining and claiming racism. We are all whiners.

  5. artarlo1 says

    Oh it’s just a teenager punk.

    1. Mark Clemens says

      It’s all fun & games until someone gets killed.

  6. Freedomsprice says

    Well I’m confused how do they know how old he was if he ran off ? Any way I think every one should be armed no matter where you are there is anymore a constant threat ….Black on white hate crimes I believe it’s an act of domestic terror and should be punished as such….No one can convince me that teenagers don’t know better than to play these kinds of games…..And so should be tried as an adult for it…..

    1. mcbee555 says

      Darned right! That teenager knew enough to dread a pedestrian carrying a concealed gun!
      If that kid, obviously with a few companions watching with amusement, was given occasion to look at the business end of a gun, there wouldn’t have been an attack. They’ll just play “their games” as long as risk to their own hides is negligible. They know that they’re involved in wrong-doing.

      1. Marilyn5555 says

        The little cowards NEVER do these alone. They pick out someone who’s alone and a WHOLE GANG is involved…usually someone if videoing the whole thing. You’ll probably never see them do something one-on-one.

        1. Roger12266 says

          That is a good argument for NOT restricting the size of a magazine.

          1. Marilyn5555 says


    2. ward says

      Law says the teen is @ an accountable age of 14 for adult crimes prosecution but the cartels are using any age they can hook with their criminal whims & ways of dictatorship tactics ..! Cartels & crime gangs invading the U.S. Freedom, legal or illegal are the enemy of the U.S. Citizens Rights ! Eliminate as any other foreign invasion on the integrity of a threat to U.S. National Security ..!

      1. Mark Clemens says

        Thats Jacksonville hoss. They had a 10 or 12 year old kid up on a murder one charge for molesting and killing his baby sister. That town is wacked out!

        1. Masculist Man says

          It’s Florida. The whole state is insane.

    3. Steve Thomas says

      It is no more a game than “Russian roulett”.

  7. Mark Clemens says

    Jacksonville is no place for civilized people to be. Worked there 3 years ago for 3 months, I had to go. The black teenage early 20’s crowd was out of control. I was at Atlantic Beach on Memorial Day. That late afternoon black thugs of that age group were assaulting white people, so I slipped on out. This was no small crowd either. When I got to my hotel I watched the news that night. Could not believe what I saw. Hundreds of black youths reeking havoc, this started at the pear and ended up in the city of JAX Beach, there were so many of them, the POLICE gave up on restoring order. Also some white dude gunned down some black youths (driving age) for playing rap music to loud. That town has serious racial issues. Like NYC is the big apple, Jacksonville is the BOLD CITY OF THE SOUTH. You have to be bold and crazy to live there!!!!!

    1. ward says

      No excuse for any U.S. Citizen to have a fear for their freedom to go any where in our country … Eliminate the A– Ho–s that are the threat to Life & Freedom by any means necessary …! The cops can’t be everywhere & probably would be restricted by a candy a– politicians law to do anything to the damned criminal that is begging for his on the spot justice..!

      1. Mark Clemens says

        The event I’m talking about, there were to many black youths to be arrested or detained. I never saw the County Jail, but I don’t think it was big enough to jail these people. All the police did was set up a perimeter and keep them confined to the beach & Main Street. I’m sure a few got arrested……

        1. Marilyn5555 says

          They should have kept them confined to the beach and waited for high tide to come in and clean it off!

      2. Merle Dickey says

        Wonder why they don’t attack these kids and beat the rap out of them like they did that woman? Or the black guy they killed in a choke hold . The kids don’t fear the police and the police are using the strong arm attack that they are being taught in police academy on the wrong victims.

      3. michaelcain says

        ON the spot justice . Bang Bang Bang

    2. ward says

      Screw this dictated abuse of power and eliminate these criminals by any means it will take & achieve justice to convict these tyrant A–Ho–s of unjust deceit to U.S. Citizens Freedom ..!

  8. PHIL atwood says

    If a black teenager comes up and asked you if you have a gun pull your glock and aim it at his head and ask him if it’s a good day to die and watch how white he becomes

    1. Rattlerjake says

      I say, tell him no and just as he winds up pull your gun and aerate his head. I like the idea of “paying it forward”!

      1. James Chapman says

        But, You would have to lie… lol

        1. Mark Clemens says

          Thats funny. I’d hate to lie to someone trying to injure me!!!!!!

        2. ward says

          No lie just the facts the true cold facts … !

        3. Andrew Owens says

          Don’t worry about lying,our president does it all the time.

      2. ward says

        Still like the one of the punk asking if I have a Glock & getting a no, starts his attack & then he is looking down the muzzle of the 45 & I am saying “really prefer a Colt” !

    2. ipsd48 says

      Or just tell them ‘there’s one way to find out’

      1. michaelcain says

        many years ago I was in south Indianapolis with my wife. three young thugs were gaining on us I over heard them plot to take me then rape my wife , she asked what are we going to do. I put my hand inside of my coat and replied “when they get closer I will ,shoot and kill them . they heard and swiftly left

    3. Mark Clemens says

      I like that one! But what I think will happen is if your a racial knockout victim. (White punching bag for black assailant) and you shoot the assailant. You will probably be in big HATE CRIME trouble, unless you get beat real bad. What proof would you have if you stop the puncher? You know he’ll say he was just going to ask you for the time,or some BS like that. If you kill him it’s up to the DA to bring charges or not, and they weren’t there when it happened.
      If you are involved in a KNOCKOUT event, and are armed. Shoot the thug in the kneecap. That way you will avoid a murder charge. Stand your ground doesn’t mean you have to kill your assailant, just stopping them is good enough. Maybe he’ll tell his hommies why he’s missing a kneecap. ………

      1. Steve Thomas says

        Ya, while they sit around partying on the money they got from suing you.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          I know……..
          But hay,
          Ain’t that better than Bubba raping you wile you wait on the Needle of Death? I’ll pay for the kneecap. Maybe they all get tainted dope & all of them die!!!
          I wonder if a person could buy gun shot insurance, if there’s even such a thing.
          What I’m thinking is, it works for the shooter, and pays for the injured persons medical bills?

          1. michaelcain says

            contact C C A. on line for training and Ins.

          2. Len Tippett says

            Nope, I am for shooting the SOB and let the chips fall beside his dead a–.

          3. dave ussery says

            join the NRA-they have that insurance

          4. Masculist Man says

            If you are atttacked and do nothing you can possibly die. If your life is valueless to you that on you don’t expect me to share that belief.

          5. Mark Clemens says

            Nowhere have I said or suggested to take an ass whipping. Just shoot to stop or maim, not kill. Lots of y’all are blood thirsty.

          6. TexasStomp says

            I don’t know who trained you but I’d ask for my money back.

            Talk to any…ANY law enforcement or Military instructor, or a gun course instructor. They will ALL tell you….do NOT draw your weapon unless your life is being threatened and then SHOOT TO KILL. Save the maiming for your dawg and disabling for your tazer.

            If you have to draw a gun it’s kill or be killed. Which is why experienced gun owners don’t draw their guns at the drop of a hat. If they do, hit the ground if you wanna live.

          7. Mark Clemens says

            I am at the age were I’m to Old for Prison, and to young for the Grave. Watching and reading the news I see after the gun smoke clears, and the blood is washed off the street. Police, DA’s, and lawyers will be involved. Worse if the Puncher is a different race, I’m gonna have Al Sharpton, the KKK at my door, or the Hommies or Skinheads (If I can’t make bail) will want blood.
            What if I get a poor jury? They find me guilty? Also I have a thing about killing stuff, except to eat. Does that make me a bad person?
            In my opinion the #1 thing to do to avoid the knock out game is, be aware of your surroundings. If someone comes up to you and ask if you’re armed. Either walk away, or fill ’em full of holes. A gun is like knowledge, it will do the will of who possess it. Be it good or evil. Do what you feel best for the situation.

          8. joe says

            You feel free to take that chance if I pull my weapon it will be to kill period they do not deserve to live if they threaten another person shoot to kill period either that or run away with your tail between you legs and hope you dont get shot in the back.

          9. joe says

            Nope shoot to kill period your life is worth more than their life once they go on the attack take no chances put a bullet center mass then one to the head.

        2. Lisa Driggers says

          Not me…. I’m just a tiny 5′ 2″ little white girl and I’m ALWAYS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE and it helps I live in Florida where the stand your ground law applies additionally shooting other than using deadly force is a joke you never pull a weapon unless you intend to kill someone

          1. Mark Clemens says

            Y’all are 50/50 so far on it.
            Zimmerman got acquitted
            Dunn got like 50 on lesser charges and has to go through another first degree murder trial.

      2. j0e cave says

        i would rather have him try to explain why his head has a hole in it

        1. Mark Clemens says

          He won’t have to explain anything. He went from assailant to victim. The DA will do his talking. I’m just trying to help good people from going down a bad path defending themselves. If you wanna shot somebody, go for it, But don’t be shocked if you end up on Death Row.

          1. Roger12266 says

            That would probably only happen if Obama and Holder got involved like they did when they were PERSECUTING Zimmerman. When has a president EVER gotten involved in a local crime investigation before?

          2. Mark Clemens says

            That’s why I like it when he’s on vacation, he can’t mess the country up as fast, as when he’s on the clock……..

          3. Harvey Melton says

            birds of a feather flock together hum…. some truth in that ya think.?

          4. ward says

            Yeh; the 4 blacks in D.C.that created all the racism lies are prime examples of the flocking together of libtards destroying the U.S. internally for a dictator !

          5. ward says

            Only bo the wannabe dictator will deceive & lie for his regime of abused power from muslim commie hell & his crony libtard administration backs him ..!

          6. Allen Benge says

            Do a little research on something called the ‘one punch homicide.’ Many times one punch will cause a person to fall and hit his head, and the victim dies of the head injury. To shoot someone attempting to strike you is putting your life in danger and/or possibly causing serious physical damage. I don’t have any idea where you got your law degree, but your advice stinks. Try becoming a police officer, and you will find out ALL about the use of lethal force. Meantimes, just find out what in the hell you are talking about.

          7. Mark Clemens says

            I got my law degree from.Lulu Tech.
            Were did you get yours? That Zimmerman dude had to go on trial for 2ed degree murder, I know he was acquitted, but he went through the stress and expence. Maybe you like high pressure situations, I don’t. The Dunn dude has to go through another Murder One trial for STANDING HIS GROUND. He did draw like 50 years on other changes. Y’all shoot em up.
            Here’s a question based on your Death Punch. If you kill the assailant before you get hit, how can you prove their intentions?
            Come on gimme your best argument. I’ll find holes all in it. Remember they never touched you, but you shot them dead first. I’m Johnny Law explain this to me…….

          8. bill says

            as I said earlier be sure to kill the assailant then there’s only your version of what happened.

          9. Cranky Steven says

            I say if you find yourself confronted in this cowardly manner and are forced to shoot the thug(s) dead, please hang around to tell the police your version. If you rapidly depart and they can’t find you, how will your story ever be told?

          10. ward says

            Then it would be bo justice by a dictatorship with no truth or facts like bo wants for his tyranny regime by creating unjust E.O’s ..! bo is creating the crisis to destroy the U.S Constitution & Bill of Rights just for his wannabe dictator thru racism..! He has to take the guns or he cannot rule so is there any doubt about his real intent to destroy the U.S.or treason ?

          11. Mark Clemens says

            Obama is just following GW Bush’s lead. Jeb or Hillary will follow up on Obama’ s work. They all answer to the highest bidders, that would be Soros and the Koch Brothers, for now………….

          12. 1American1st says

            GW Bush’s lead????? WTF is wrong with you, Libtard? Explain yourself! How did you manage to drag President Bush into this?

          13. 1American1st says

            Normal people don’t usually go around shooting innocent people. If you’re being attacked you have the right to defend yourself.

          14. Mark Clemens says

            I’m not going to debate the one punch, because I know its true.

          15. Masculist Man says

            You must be the resident liberal. Tell us again about how they are an oppressed minority and they have no idea what they are doing. Now go call Obama and Holder and ask them for a raise.

          16. Allen Benge says

            I don’t know what your yardstick is, but I am not a liberal. I am about as conservative as you can get. I never said anything about anyone being oppressed. If I remember the original article, a man was asked if he was armed, and when he said no, he was punched. My point is, as a former EMT and deputy sheriff was how dangerous this damned knockout game really was. The one punch homicide is an example of unintentional consequences. One punch can cause a person to die, whether from the punch itself, or the victim striking his head when he falls. Either way, that is Second Degree Murder, because of depraved indifference to life. Anyone doing the knockout game needs to be brought to justice on a charge of attempted murder.

          17. ward says

            Self defense is a hell of a good reason for the shooting of an a– H–e that is trying to kill you ..!

          18. richbach says

            I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!

          19. Mark Clemens says

            Did you know in Florida and Connecticut unless your facing the DEATH PENALTY you only get a jury of 6? Look at Zimmerman’s jury. But hay, if you do cop a Murder One Charge, you will be judged by 12. If you loose, you will be carried by 6……….
            See in America you can get both!!!!!!!

          20. 1American1st says

            You sure seem to know about crimes, criminals, juries & sentences. All from first hand experience?

          21. Masculist Man says

            If you don’t defend yourself you’ll end up on the morgue slab. I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

          22. joe says

            Yea that does NOT happen 99.9% of the shootings are justified and no charges are ever filed. I am of course talking about law abiding citizens with legal carry permits these are simply the facts. If these punks attack shoot them and shoot to kill simple. They no longer have a right to live once they attempt physical harm at that point they become targets to be taken out plain and simple.
            Your right to walk the streets without being brutally beaten supersedes their right to exist on this planet .

      3. DaveA says

        NOT VERY SMART ! ! I agree with you but a wise police officer told me that one word was better then two. As someone said “They will lie, and say you were the one attacking.. His word against your. YOU LOSE

        1. Mark Clemens says

          Oh yea, if they catch the assailant he will have a logical explanation or deny the whole incident all together. I’d rather go to court for aggravated battery than murder one.

        2. Masculist Man says

          Good point. We saw that with the Michael Brown situation.

      4. Roger12266 says

        I don’t think that I would enjoy killing anyone, however, in the heat of a battle trying to “wound” someone is, at best, ridiculous. In the military we were trained to aim for “center mass”. That way, even if you are a bit shaken and your shot isn’t perfect, you are still going to hit the criminal.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          These are juvenile thugs at best, not combatants. Y’all do, shoot, aim, how you want. A good old fashioned pistol whipping might do the trick……..
          But with all those baggy clothes I’d go for a head shot, incase they had body armor on.

          1. 1American1st says

            It’s juvenile thugs that are doing the “Knockout Game” on mostly white elderly people. Look at the picture above of Carter Strange, the 19 yr old white teen who was beaten by 8 “juveniles”, aged 13 to 19.

        2. richbach says

          I was trained the same way in the Marine Corps. However, if you don’t kill him outright, he can still come at you. My neighbor was a cop and he suggested to me that you shoot them in the head. It may be a smaller target, but they will never get close to you or even get a shot off at you.

          1. Roger12266 says

            A very good idea. but I would prefer to use this as a “last option” when the criminal is at very close range.

          2. 1American1st says

            Do you prefer “Center Mass”?

      5. Allen Benge says

        Sorry, Mark, but justification for use of deadly force does not allow you to intentionally maim someone. If you are justified in drawing a weapon, you are doing it because it is the only way to stop an attack. The law, in California, anyway, on a charge of Intentional Maiming is second only to Murder. You shoot to stop an attack, and if it kills the attacker, that is not your problem, legally, ethically or morally. You will be put through the wringer, but with a good attorney and an expert witness, you will be okay.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          I didn’t know that. These things differ from state to state. Florida now allows a warning shot. What a dumb ass state assembly. Bullets dont stop until they hit something, and don’t care if they land in the wrong person. Y’all don’t hate on me for this option. I believe it to be an Americans God given right to own a gun, and to use it for defense. But come on.a warning shot up in the air in Miami could kill someone in a 20th floor condo, or pass the villain and land in somebody behind them.

          1. AirFrank says

            There was a guy who fired a warning shot into the ground near his feet. Bad guys ran away. Prosecuted him for reckless endangerment. Say what? He fired into the ground near his feet. Geez.

          2. Mark Clemens says

            What state? Here in Tennessee we love our guns (even the democrats) but it’s against the law to fire a warning shot. That was question #3 on the carry test. The instructor said the law was there so a judge won’t have to decide if it was a warning shot, or if your a poor shot. You simply just can’t do it.

          3. Allen Benge says

            It should be against the law to fire a warning shot. As Mark says, bullets don’t give a fat rat’s behind who or what they hit. A warning shot is an illegal use of lethal force, and if the bullet you fire hits a third party, guess what? You will work for that person for the rest of your life. Firing a shot into the ground is as stupid as firing a round in the air. A bullet fired at the ground can hit a rock or other object and ricochet. It does not become incapable of causing injury. I was trained in using ricochet shots in certain circumstances, but it is not a warning shot.

          4. Mark Clemens says

            Actually a ricochet has more impact power than a straight on shot.

          5. Cranky Steven says

            Mark, sorry but that is total BS.

          6. PHIL atwood says

            No a ricochet don’t have more power it can just make a bigger entrance wound as the bullet is already deformed but it doesn’t penetrate near as far into the target as a straight on shot

          7. richbach says

            A hollow point .45 round makes a small hole going in but a large hole coming out.

          8. joe says

            Nonsense that bullet gives up energy to what ever object it strikes first.

          9. Mark Clemens says

            That is just as true, as tornadoes spin backwards in the southern hemispheres………

          10. joe says

            Hey its simple physics sparky the bullet impacts a surface it slows down it does not accelerate what the heck school did you go to. Anything a bullet strikes it imparts energy into , using your logic a bullet proof vest should send a bullet into orbit after it penetrates the vest. I do not know where you are getting your information from but it is WRONG period a ricochet is NO WHERE near the energy of a shot directly from the muzzle or even 100 yards down range and that is a fact you can not argue with.

          11. Mark Clemens says

            When I was in my 30’s I was hit in my leg w/a ricochet .22 bullet, the doctor told me the bullet was going 1.5 times faster, ricocheted off the rock than taking it straight out of the barrel. Plus I looked it up. Now Einstein what is your reference that says a bullet slows down during a ricochet?

          12. joe says

            you are an idiot that is a violation of the laws of physics and IMPOSSIBLE if your doc told you that he is an IDIOT and you are a damn liar . There is NO WAY for a doc to determine the velocity of that round without knowing the load. You have no damn idea what you are talking about a bullet does not go faster after it hits something ha ha ha ha you flaming moron. So if it just kept ricocheting around eventually it would surpass the speed of light and go back in time before bullets existed what would happen then would the world explode ha ha ha ha MORON!! you are too stupid for words. You show me the webpage where it says a bullet picks up speed after striking an object, you can not it does not exist.
            A .22 that hit a rock, steel plate or any other hard surface would be so deformed it probably would hardly penetrate a heavy pair of jeans unless you were standing right next to the rock. A .22 is highly unlikely to ricochet off a a piece of wood or dirt so you are full of it. Perhaps it ricocheted off your skull and you are imagining all this ha ha ha

          13. Mark Clemens says

            I looked up ricochet bullets. You just don’t understand the physics of speed, weight, trajectory, velocity. A ricocheted bullet “skims” the surface of something then picks up speed from the momentum. I do have a physicist formula, but I hate to throw to much information at you.
            Besides your logic, do you have an actual scientific reference? Right now you’re batting zero.

          14. joe says

            ha ha ha ha ha that is the dumbest thing I ever heard you do not even know the definition of momentum I gave you the exact law of physics that explains this you are just too stupid to understand it. Shown me the loony tunes webpage that gave you these moronic ideas. Picks up speed from the momentum ha ha ha ha ha that is funny and you are as dumb as a can of soup. Wow you are messing with me aren’t you, no one can be that stupid you are talking about creating energy from nothing ever hear of perpetual motion chuckles that is what you are proposing, I know you are messing with me now, good one you had me there for a second.

          15. Mark Clemens says

            Who’s physics law is that? Or did your 12 functional brain cells lie to you……again? We all know you didn’t look up the definition of COLLISION or RICOCHET. Then again judging by your first grade insults, you are just a run of the mill bridge troll moron. Let me try some zingers:
            You are like Obama, your mama was a troll, your daddy was an eye dropper.
            Now that’s fucken’ funny! Bitch Boy!!
            Ha Ha Ho Ho He He
            I bet you have a micro wewe.
            Joe Blow……….. all the boys by the sea.
            Damn i just can’t stop
            Does your boyfriend make you do the hop?
            I bet you drink his children like soda pop!!!!!!!!

          16. joe says

            You clay brained moron when a bullet strikes an object what do we call that, come on now stay with me yes a collision yep the fact that the bullet bounces off does not mean the collision never happened you jacka55. You are so stupid I find it hard to put down words I think you will understand, the simple fact you idiot is you are WRONG and only to total moron would even think that what you are saying is in any way logical. And by the way with your mental skills I bet you are the true obammy supporter I think the rat traitor belongs in prison but again another stupid assumption by a total moron on your part. I can only put the facts down in writing if you are to empty headed to understand them there is nothing more I can do. Let me just say this ANY person with half a brain would laugh at your lie that a bullet picks up speed after hitting an object it is a VIOLATION OF BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS PERIOD YOU MORON!!.
            You have yet to show me this webpage that backs your laughable point of view and that is because it DOES NOT EXIST you are a damn liar trying to make a point that is nothing more than the rantings of a lunatic with no education.
            You are wrong and you will accept that fact,you have the mental skills of a urinal cake.

          17. Mark Clemens says

            You still haven’t looked up the definition of ricochet or collision.
            Exactly who’s law of physics are you referencing? It aint Newton, Einstein, Oppenheimer. Who?
            All you have to do is use your computer search engine.
            Also not ALL bullets hit their target head on (In the world of physics this is known as a COLLISION). Some bullets strike the target at an angle, then divert into another direction ( In the world of physics this is known as a RICOCHET).
            According to Google and Myth Busters, because of the velocity of the bullet, it picks up speed………..
            Did you know that?
            Did you know tornadoes and hurricanes spin backwards south of the equator? Just like your pea brain. How was your breakfast urinal cake? Did you have it w/Tea or Pee?

          18. joe says

            You are so stupid it hurts my head show me where collision means only head on you stupid little man. All your garbage is NONSENSE you are either really really stupid or you are messing with me. You continue to ignore me when I ask where your proof comes from because it does not exist it is insane garbage. I have wasted enough time on you it is clear you are retarded or at least acting the part of a retarded person. I am right you are wrong end of story ,there is not a person on this planet that would not laugh at such a ridiculous and child like idea. I bet you also believe in leprechauns ha ha ha ha fool.
            YOU LOSE and I am done wasting time on such a lost cause your ideas are so stupid I actually laugh when I read them so thanks for entertaining me if nothing else.

          19. Joe T says

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 13:23
            Input Info
            Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology
            Mathematical Model for Bullet Ricochet
            This is so because a bullet is
            not only deformed, but becomes unstable after
            ricochet and is therefore likely to follow an erratic
            path and lose velocity at a rapid rate. (Elementary Watson)

            The mathematical treatment given below is
            based on the introduction of two dimensionless
            parameters a and fi defined by equations (5) and
            (6). It is possible to study their dependence on
            various factors experimentally and determine their
            experimental values. In earlier papers (1, 2, 3) the
            author had devised a simple experimental set up to
            study bullet ricochet. It was possible by this set up
            to measure the angle of ricochet at various angles
            of incidence with sufficient degree of accuracy. By
            adopting a similar set up the velocity of a bullet
            after ricochet can also be measured by a counter
            chronograph provided with photoelectric screens.
            Knowing the incident velocity, angle of incidence
            and ricochet the parameters a and Pi can be calculated
            by the formulae (5) and (6). The velocity
            after ricochet will have to be determined in close
            proximity of the target using minimum possible
            separation of screens. This is so because a bullet is
            not only deformed but becomes unstable after
            ricochet and is therefore likely to follow an erratic
            path and lose velocity at a rapid rate. In close
            proximity of the target, i.e. before the bullet has
            traversed any considerable length, it will be travelling
            almost in the true direction of ricochet.
            Tan i 1 2Tanr 2 (28) Tan i Tanr2 4LTanr -Tanr I Ta/n i + D
            Tanr 1 2 Tani 2 (29) 1 / ‘Tanr 1Tan / + E Tan r
            Only the positive values of a and,6 are of interest to
            us as only then the bullet ricochets.
            Thus if i, r, L and D are known the…..

          20. joe says

            I think the guy was just pulling my chain no one can be stupid as to think a bullet will speed up after it hits something. He is talking about violating basic laws of physics. He got me that’s for sure I thought he was serious for a while there ha ha.

          21. Joe T says

            Joe…I know…that’s why we sent legal info used in courts; e.g.

            The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that “in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state.” This is also commonly referred to as entropy. (less not more)

            best regards, Joe T and IT Team

          22. Joe T says

            A Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 13:23
            Input Info
            Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology
            Mathematical Model for Bullet Ricochet
            This is so because a bullet is
            not only deformed, but becomes unstable after
            ricochet and is therefore likely to follow an erratic
            path and lose velocity at a rapid rate. (Elementary Watson)

            The mathematical treatment given below is
            based on the introduction of two dimensionless
            parameters a and fi defined by equations (5) and
            (6). It is possible to study their dependence on
            various factors experimentally and determine their
            experimental values. In earlier papers (1, 2, 3) the
            author had devised a simple experimental set up to
            study bullet ricochet. It was possible by this set up
            to measure the angle of ricochet at various angles
            of incidence with sufficient degree of accuracy. By
            adopting a similar set up the velocity of a bullet
            after ricochet can also be measured by a counter
            chronograph provided with photoelectric screens.
            Knowing the incident velocity, angle of incidence
            and ricochet the parameters a and Pi can be calculated
            by the formulae (5) and (6). The velocity
            after ricochet will have to be determined in close
            proximity of the target using minimum possible
            separation of screens. This is so because a bullet is
            not only deformed but becomes unstable after
            ricochet and is therefore likely to follow an erratic
            path and lose velocity at a rapid rate. In close
            proximity of the target, i.e. before the bullet has
            traversed any considerable length, it will be travelling
            almost in the true direction of ricochet.
            Tan i 1 2Tanr 2 (28) Tan i Tanr2 4LTanr -Tanr I Ta/n i + D
            Tanr 1 2 Tani 2 (29) 1 / ‘Tanr 1Tan / + E Tan r
            Only the positive values of a and,6 are of interest to
            us as only then the bullet ricochets.
            Thus if i, r, L and D are known the…..

          23. joe says

            Here you go junior, Physics for dummies ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


          24. Mark Clemens says

            Joe, Joe, that link you put up explains COLLISION not RICOCHET.
            There is a big difference. Look up both words. Not only do you not understand physics, the English language appears alien to you also.
            When was the last time you heard of an auto ricochet? Here in America we refer to them as auto collisions.
            Did you give me the Collision link by accident, or are you naturally stupid?

          25. joe says

            Wow you are as dumb as the rock the bullet bounced off to hit you THEY ARE THE SAME THING RETARD the bullet has to collide with an object to ricochet off it you slack jawed moron. A bullet can not gain speed by hitting some thing,how stupid could you be not to understand this simple concept. I am amazed that you could know so little about such a basic law of physics. Have you ever heard of gravity or do you think it is magic wood sprites that hold your feet to the ground ha ha ha ha empty headed fool you are an example of how bad the school system is in this country. I am surprised you know how to use a computer

          26. John says

            Mark, you are the Dumb Ass, when firing a warning shot you don’t shoot into the air and most of us that carry know the laws on carry and concealment. You are obviously not up on Florida law, read up on it before you spread bullshit. I would suggest you go on the net and do some research, it’s all right their in black and white..

          27. Mark Clemens says

            John you must be cum drunk. Get the seaman out of your eyes, off your fingers. Google it up. The law went in to effect this year. It was adopted because a black Jacksonville woman (Marissa Alexander) was involved in some kind of domestic violence. She left her husband’s trailer, got a pistol, went back in shot into the wall. Her husband was behind the wall, the bullet struck & killed him. She got 60 years for her warning shot.
            Most news papers claim this was a response to George Zimmerman’s acquittal Mrs Alexander was trying to use the STAND YOUR GROUND DEFENSE. Because she said she fired a WARNING SHOT, she couldn’t use the SYG Defense. After the Zimmerman acquittal, Al Sharpton (mainly) and Jessie Jackson used Mrs. Alexander’s case to try to show RACIAL INEQUITIES in SYG Defense. I reckon Rick Scott bitched up due to Sharpton’s pressure. That’s why the law is stupid, it was conceived under racial pressure. You gay folks don’t really Google up much stuff. Its all there on the internet.
            I also read the statute (HB 89) there is NO criteria on how to shoot a WARNING SHOT. I could shoot in the air, on the ground, beside your head. I’m not a ass hole, its that your a dumb ass

          28. Richard J. Waldron says

            Mark, You are so right on many levels but just a little off on others. Zimmerman is paying a heavy price for what he did and I believe he was completely justified in that shooting. Center mass shots accomplish two things 1. the best chance of stopping an assailant and 2. The best chance that the bullet does not land in someone else. My favorite saying is “All bullets land in court” The bottom line is you have to be in “fear for you life or great bodily harm” That said there are literally thousands of non violent gun encounters every year where a perp was scared away with just the presence of a Gun. This is one of the main reasons Concealed Carry works because he would be assailant doesn’t know who has a gun or not.
            The Guy who waited in his basement and shot the teens was guilty of murder because he should have stopped them at the door which most likely turned them around. instead he ambushed them stood over them and finished em off. That implies premeditation and revenge given the circumstances. The last thing you want to do is kill someone But hey, better them than you!

          29. Masculist Man says

            Florida is famous for doing stupid shit.

        2. John says

          California, Give me a break. One of the most anti-gun states in the U.S.A. They are a bunch of Liberal idiots that think all of the other states should be like them. Check out the Supreme Court ruling about police protection. All the police do is investigate crimes after they are committed and do have to protect you UNLESS they happen to be their in the 2-3 seconds that you need them to protect youself or your family or someone else’s family. True If you shoot someone plan on spending time in court, but as the saying goes BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY TWELVE THAN TO BE CARRIED BY SIX. I’m in Florida and do I carry, They don’t want to find out.

        3. Mark Clemens says

          I’m just a poor white boy. I can’t afford all that, and I don’t want the rest of my life in the hands of a Public Pretender.

        4. Cranky Steven says

          Good luck with that if you are white and the attacker wasn’t in California.

      6. phxgeo says

        I would shoot him where it takes away his joy and procreation. That will stop the breeding of more stupidity and prevent any more generations from collecting free Government handouts.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          Give him the inch high private eye treatment! Shoot his hand off too, so he cant pleasure him self with the short stroke!

        2. Masculist Man says

          Today’s females are also dangerous. If one of those beasties came at me I would shoot her tits off and ovaries. If that sounds too harsh to you then maybe you want one of these monsters coming at you and when they do you can practice that old fashion outdated chivalry and do nothing. If you take that route don’t expect to survive the outcome.

        3. Mark Clemens says

          …..Isn’t that like an abortion? You will kill his unborn children. Hell he might have the next Michael Brown in waiting!!!

      7. bill says

        no you are very wrong. if there are no witnesses nearby be sure to kill him right there. then there’s only your story to be heard

        1. Mark Clemens says

          It’s KNOCKOUT they do it in front of their hommies.
          Here’s a question for you.
          If you shoot a would-be mugger, and there were NO witness, would you tell the police, or would you go about your business?
          If you answer please let me know state your in.these things seam to very from state to state……

          1. bill says

            if I had my druthers I’d leave him for the rats. but since I’m legal I would call the police and my attorney. prolly here in the peoples republik of Kalifornia I’d need a witness on my behalf even if there were no witnesses for him.

          2. Mark Clemens says

            I would call my attorney first.

      8. JobRon says

        Mark: I would have to disagree with your methods of injury. My daddy, and he was always correct in what he told me about guns, mentioned that if I ever had to shoot someone in self defense, to make sure he was not able to answer questions. Zimmerman is a prime example of correct self defense. He was being pounded by a thug and stopped the pounding by applying bullet, pointy end first to the antagonist. That this punk died is a direct result of overstating his abilities. Another case in point, a home owner in the Midwest had a home out in the boondocks that was constantly being burglarized He rigged up a shotgun to take out the next invader. His friend told him to lower the gun to take out the perps legs. He did, the home was broken into and the gun went off hitting the perp in the knees and not killing him. While recovering in jail, the perp sued the owner for shooting him in the legs and won in a court of law. That’s why I say my daddy was correct about the application of the pointy end of the bullet and where it should hit.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          Its against the law, here in Tennessee to booby trap your house to injure or kill an intruder (even if you put up a warning sign). If the crook would of died of the gun shot. Here in Tennessee the homeowner would be charged with first degree murder. Same applies to outside booby traps. If you want to kill someone thats your business. Another case in Florida was a dude named Dunn. He tried to use Stand Your Ground. He got 50 years for shooting in to a vehicle and killing one of its occupants. He got a hung jury on the First Degree murder. Now he has to do the murder charge again.
          Read the case Duval County. Tell me, if you were in Mr. Dunns shoes that night. Would you of gunned down the other 3 passengers also?
          Florida is 50/50 on SYG.
          Trial is a gamble at best.God does not show up in court to say whos right or wrong. Would you have the $400,000 Mr Zimmerman spent on attorneys? Plus can you make a high bond? I don’t think Dunn could afford his bail. Do you have a extra 6 months to sit in jail to await trial. What if you get a all black jury who are against this kind of law. This is the twentieth century. Your problems are not over anymore if you survive the gun fight, like in the wild west.
          One more thing about Mr. Zimmerman’s case. The night of the shooting, the Sanford Police let him go, a Grand Jury said he was in the limits of SYG. BUT the DA charged and tried him anyway. At HIS expanse. You must like high pressure situations. Florida don’t fool around either. If Dunn looses his murder one retrial, the State will kill him, they do about 6 a year. Personally I. Don’t think Dunn should of been charged W/Murder one. In my opinion nothing was premeditated, but the DA charged him anyway.

      9. dave ussery says

        Knee capping won’t stop him, it’ll be worse when he recovers from it!
        better to just eliminate the problem=one and done!!

      10. Masculist Man says

        If he can survives he can sue you. If he’s dead you control the narrative the court will hear.

      11. Angry American says

        Not only that but he will remember the incident with every step he takes, may even make him a good citizen. But that is a stretch!

      12. grama18 says

        wear a camera ! ! Cheaper than a lawyer..

      13. 1American1st says

        What?!? And leave an AH alive so he can sue you?

    4. ihatelibs says

      Betcha he could Run the 100 yd Dash , in 8 seconds flat too

    5. Angry American says

      You are correct that is what happened & I did one late night on the El (subway) in Philadelphia it really is amazing how light they become when a 45 is pointed right between their eyes. I was also stunned at how fast they could run too & they sure didn’t run the 3 feet towards me

    6. 1American1st says

      or say “NO, but will a .38 do?”

  9. Stealth Fighter says

    I may not need it but; I’d like to be “carrying” so i can shoot the @$$wipe in the foot!!! That should do the trick!!! ~Angry Black Veteran~………Or worse

  10. John Gillis says

    If I were in that guy’s position, I would have yelled, “What if I am?” I used to live in New Orleans and run into racist thugs every day. A good bark with the willingness to bite will more often than not, force them to think twice. But the rule of thumb for anyone is to be aware of your surroundings. Vigilance and discretion will alleviate 90% of this risk.

    1. Linda Lee says

      Bellowing is a good idea. You take the offensive stance and bellow like a bull, spray mace or pepper spray at the same time. Oh I agree be aware, even in the freaking mall where there are lots of people.

  11. marla1 says

    Hopefully his plane crashes and that will be the end and we rid the white house of holder and Boehner the bonehead and dirty harry!

    1. Masculist Man says

      Boehner pisses me off. He is so scared of Obama he capitualates to whatever Obama wants. Boehner is a lousy example of a Republican.

  12. Harold says

    There is only one way to stop these sub-human beings, Eventually they will get the message. That is after a few of these low IQ , low intelligence thugs get you know what. Maybe Jessie the Jack and Alison not to Sharpton get the word around that it could be fatal to mess around.

    1. Linda Lee says

      You would think that after a a hundred years plus, that you could take the Africa out of the African. but i t appears that ain’t so.

      1. Harold says

        You are absolutely correct, they are still in the aboriginal state!

        1. grama18 says

          That is a insult to the real aboriginal. THEY hunt for food and shelter. Those turds would”nt stand a chance with them.. DEAD !! is the key word..

      2. Merle Dickey says

        Thanks to “You can’t touch your child ” There is a big difference in giving your child a spanking than beating the crap out of him . I was raised with a mother who was real free with the willow switch and I never , ( I swear) got in any trouble. because, One ,I didn’t like the willow switch and two I didn’t like to see her mad at me.I’m not mentally damaged . So most of these kids are being raised with not only no discipline but no respect for other people , their lives, and their belongings. These mothers that are having one kid after another just to stay on the welfare rolls should be put in prison.No discipline, no love, no teaching them respect for others . Just raise their selves.

        1. Mark Clemens says

          I agree w/you, but unfortunately they are our future, as we we’re our parents future.

          1. Merle Dickey says

            And that is a scarey thought!!

          2. Mark Clemens says

            …………I don’t think it’s gonna turn out like Star Trek or The Jetson’s

        2. Masculist Man says

          I take it as a black person you are deeply offended by what other blacks have done.

          1. merle says

            who’s black you or me? You stand up for females of any race that have children just to suck off the dole? It is being done and if you can’t see it you must not be paying attention. Only some black have done things I don’t think are right and some whites and some Latinos and some Asians , And the Issi ? I don’t care if they are wiped off the face of the earth , does that make me bad?

          2. Masculist Man says

            First I am an MRA so I would be the last one to advocate for women.

            Second,you used the words “Just raise their selves.” white people would say “Just raise themselves.” It is usually blacks that say “theirselves” instead of “themselves”.

    2. Merle Dickey says

      Then throw them in the river

  13. Adam Brier says

    shoulda used the blade on this mini thug.

    1. Mary Ann says

      Yes, and what would happened to the white man Adam? He would have been sent to jail for killing the poor little black boy. The knife seemed to have done the trick, for now. Until these black thugs carry a bigger knife!

      1. Native Texan says

        Don’t intend to bring a knife to any fight because a bullet gets there faster!

        1. Mary Ann says

          You’re absolutely correct Native Texan. But of course if a white person shoots a black person, self defense or not, we’re the worst racists on the planet and then you have the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton giving one of their famous rants against whites. I guess it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

          1. Masculist Man says

            Why doesn’t someone shoot Jackoff and Sharpless?

  14. ttoolman says

    So why not a hate crime here,I see it only works for the blacks and Mexicans,I hope next time these punk parasites do this they get their heads blown off.

    1. Marilyn5555 says

      That’s the BIG question. Because MANY people, ones who survived, or didn’t have permanent brain damage after, have said they made a remark that involved racial slurs against whites. Thought ANYtime you did that, it automatically made it a hate crime—-but NOT when it’s black-on-white. Why is that?

      1. Masculist Man says

        That is thanks to Sharpton,Jackson,Obama,Holder and white liberals that work for Sony.

  15. Linda Lee says

    At least as an alternative put an atomizer of pepper spray on a key chain or hook it to your belt or purse. Have it handy when you are walking around.

    1. Marilyn5555 says

      Obviously you have been following the knock-out game. You’re probably not going to have a chance to use your spray—-they like to wait until you pass the opposite direction, and then sucker punch you in the back of the head, so you don’t know it’s coming.

  16. Adam Brier says

    Just let your hands go into the little thugs face, beat him like he has never been beaten before. Don’t stop until unconsciousness is rendered. No mercy for thugs that sucker punch folks. My back up is a blade, my back ups backup is a .45

    1. Rattlerjake says

      Remember, these niggastinians NEVER are alone. They only do the knockout game in front of several of their bros. who likely will attack en masse if you fight back. Don’t be a dead hero, lead is cheap.

      1. Adam Brier says

        Ive been jumped before. I teed off wildy and overcame. I knocked one down or out, then others came at me from behind of course, but I turned into them and knocked another one down with a hook and took another one down and held him down and smashed him with just elbows into his face. he got a bunch of teeth knocked, the others saw my violence of action and didn’t want anymore. It was a confidence builder even though I was hurting for 2 weeks.

        1. Rattlerjake says

          That’s you, but most older Americans have been turned into wimps by societal pressure and their socialist “turn the other cheek” religious leaders. For me, being retired Special Forces, would eliminate the threat with any means available.

          De Oppresso Liber

          1. Native Texan says

            You got that one ass backwards! We aren’t the generation brought up all touchy-feely and politically correct. I’ve been your age and in a far better time, whereas you haven’t reached my age. Us old people are more like to bust a cap than many of your generation. We’re already old an grouchy so it don’t take much to get us really pissed off. Like reading your post did!

          2. Rattlerjake says

            I’m probably older than you, fool! Nearing 60. Although there are many of us that are as you say, not touchy-feely and grouchy, (mostly prior military like me), the rest are sitting back and twittling their thumbs. I meet people every day and after talking with them about the nation’s current state, many are just clueless or not willing to step up to the plate. If we older generation Americans were so pissed and ready to “bust a cap their your ass” then explain why Ovomit is still in office and asswipes like Piglosi, Hitlery, Chief Warren, Frankenfeinstein, Reid, Holder, etc. are still in office, and unconstitutional law and executive orders are passing and NOT being challenged, etc. America has wimped out.

      2. Masculist Man says

        So you kill more than one animal. That seems to bother you.

        1. Rattlerjake says

          I said lead is cheap. I’d shoot them all and let God sort them out!

    2. william e wilson says

      Little? Some of these 15 year olds are better than 6 ft and 200 pounds. I’ll bet this one was larger than the man he hit or he would not have hit him.

      1. Steve Thomas says

        That is why a gun is the only chance I would have.

        1. Native Texan says

          Me also!

    3. Roger12266 says

      The problem is that while you are dealing justice to the one, the other ten will jump you from behind.
      Keep a spare magazine in your shirt pocket.

  17. smogdew says

    We all know the black reaction when a white person kills anyone black – the black community comes out and loots (good excuse for more freebies) and creates mayhem. Then Larry, Curly & Moe, (Jackson, Sharpton & Obama) come out and jive talk until you can’t take it any more.
    Blacks in any political position would sell their black brothers to the devil for a vote – but blacks can’t under-
    stand that… belief that black society becomes dumber every year. They have no dignity, no compassion, no leaders, no aims except crime. I was watching a police show – when caught, the criminal used the word ‘man’ at least a dozen times – yo’ man, it ain’t me, man, hey man, geez man, no man. Their command of the English language was disgraceful – and they, in their ignorance and stupidity are one of the most disgusting ethnicities in this country. Hispanics, who are here legally, who work and go to school
    have left blacks in the dirt.
    With so much money going to Hispanics, eventually blacks won’t know what hit their welfare programs.

    1. Marilyn5555 says

      I always love their excuse for what they do “they was dissin’ me”. Well….what they hell have any of them done that EARNS respect?

    2. Roger12266 says

      There is no such thing as a “black” living entity on this planet. Any living thing that appears black will show, under spectral analysis, that it is either an extremely deep shade of brown or purple. Thus there is no such thing as a black person, only Negros.

      1. Mark Clemens says

        Negro is Spanish for BLACK, Amigo

        1. Roger12266 says

          I am quite aware of that. Negro is also the OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED term for that race.

  18. John says

    All I can say is one of them is going to get killed doing this dumb shit, and then what are they going to say, they play that shit, and they will be playing with fire. And we all know what happens when you play with fire.

  19. Cornville says

    We are heading into a massive race war especially once these thousands of illegals start to take away jobs that Black People used to do. The so called Knockout Game is done by unemployed youngsters who in the end just might find themselves either dead or seriously harmed if they think they can rule the streets using violence. In the meantime, it is best to be armed wherever you go.

    1. ward says

      More attention to creating technical education for good paying jobs without unions & less push for socialistic free loading welfare ,,! This being a way to start self support & independent civil working responsibility ..! Getting rid of the worst U.S. problem being the far left bo & administration of the wannabe dictator is also a very necessary obligation for Freedom & Liberty in U.S.Citizens lives ..!

      1. Cornville says

        Black People were slaves 149 years ago. Ever since slavery ended, the Black People have been getting one form of free public aid after another. Either these people have no real intelligence or they have the “smarts” to climb out of their self induced dependance on the US Government and create a place for themselves in this society. Being on the Government dole makes you into a slave of the Government. Is that what the Black People really want?

        1. ward says

          One thing for sure when the lazy get a socialistic free ride the rest of the citizens pay for those ways of irresponsibility..! May be what they really want if they do not have any integrity but this is not all the blacks & I know of the ones that are hard working ambitious self supporting U.S. Citizens of integrity …! This race crap really has to stop for the U.S. to be the nation of Freedom & Liberty with government for & by the U.S. Citizens ! bo will stop creating racist problems after we fire him ..!

          1. Cornville says

            First of all we have the first Colored President of the USA. BHO is not Black nor White…he is colored. Secondly, it is a mistake to think that the lackluster Republicans will ever impeach this man. To do so will create one hell of a race riot in this country. Even though BHO is colored, the Black People claim him as being 100% Black, thus the problem. The best thing to do is to wait his term out, and NEVER AGAIN elect any candidate who is Black or Colored, lest we have the same problems that we all face today.

          2. Masculist Man says

            Now this I could read and make sense of.

      2. Masculist Man says

        It’s very hard to follow what you wrote.

  20. Robert L. Rice says

    This is why I always carry,,,

  21. Sgt. York says

    Lesson learned,be damn sure you do carry your weapon and be ready to use it if necessary.

  22. ward says

    These cowardly punk gangs have to be the major contributing cause of racial prejudice & need to be disciplined with justice of elimination by Glock if necessary …! The best justice is applied @ the time of the assault with the witness being the crime it self & no B.S. poor johnny crap …! Race war pending …!

    1. Marilyn5555 says


  23. Cornville says

    11 Years ago my wife and I were vacationing in the Czech Republic for about a month. In Prague the one fear everyone has are Gypsies who make their living by pick pocketing and stealing. In my case, I lost my wallet when I entered a subway car. All of my cash, credit cards, and photos gone in an instant. I immediately went to the US Embassy who in turn told me to report the incident to the local police. I did so and when interviewed by the only Detective who spoke English, he told me to go to his aunt’s shop and buy a ladies hat pin. The very next day, the same gang that stole my wallet, tried to do the same to a lady boarding the same subway car. I took out my hat pin and jammed it into the side, actually kidney of the man stealing the ladies purse. When I pulled out the hat pin, I knew I hit the man’s kidney. Not a pretty sight. Believe it or not, he didn’t even say a word…he didn’t want to bring any attention to his difficulty. My suggesting to all is to carry a ladies hat pin.

  24. PCS says

    No,I don’t have a Glock………………I have S&W M&P 9MM compact bang, bang.

    1. Native Texan says

      I could honestly say, “yep, wanna check it out? Just look into the little hole for the best view.”

      1. Masculist Man says

        Tell them is a pez dispenser and give them some “candy”.

  25. Jerry_Morgan says

    I have become very aware of any Black I see and always reach for the comforting feel of the CC bulge on my belt. It has gotten to the point that NO Black will ever again gain my complete trust. Nothing seems to come from Blacks these days that’s not violent or Anti-American. I trust them about as much as I do Muslims…which is ZERO.

  26. junkmailbin says

    step on my toes, I will break your knees and face.
    The knock out game is racially motivated and eric , the sore butted, will not prosecute black on white crime

  27. Steve Thomas says

    “Depending on the circumstances, it may be better to engage in hand-to-hand combat before turning to weaponry.” ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR F***ING MIND!!!!! The reason to carry a gun is to avoid taking a beating. Only a libtard would even make such a statement.

    1. Native Texan says

      A sane voice out of the wilderness of “could have, should have and other such nonsense. I f you aren’t faced with it then you can’t tell anyone what to do about it.

  28. morrow says

    The news is turning it in to a race thing because they only report it happening to whites and not blacks.

    1. Marilyn5555 says

      Because it’s only happening to whites and asians you IDIOT! What the hell do you think the “knock-out game” and “polar bear hunting game” is?!?! There have been literally THOUSANDS of these cases in the past 10 years. The news has been DENYING it’s a race thing until recently—–FINALLY

      1. morrow says

        Now just listen to how stupid you sound saying that it only happens to whites and Chinese idiot. They don’t report this when it happens in the black hood, just like they don’t show entire poor trash white areas around the country.

        1. Charles says

          I know where the stupid is and it is not in Marilyn.

        2. Marilyn5555 says

          If it were happening in the “hood”….it wouldn’t be called polar bear hunting you MORON!

          1. morrow says

            Don’t get so angry, shouldn’t you be getting ready to go to Iraq by now?

          2. Marilyn5555 says

            AWWWWWW….is the heat too hot for ya’? poor baby…..

          3. morrow says

            No, not at all son ,but it looks like there won’t be any intelligent dialogue going on here so you win.

          4. Marilyn5555 says

            I agree completely. Come back when you’re intelligent.

          5. Anything that comes form a Nagger lover such as you is unintelligent idiot!

        3. Oh really,hmmm I believe they reported the 86 shootings in Chi town over the 4th of July weekend ass clown~!

        4. Marilyn5555 says

          They don’t happen in the black hoods because there aren’t any white people in the ‘hood. GEEZ! I’ve got a box of rocks with more brains than you do.

    2. STFU Marrow~! Bitch ass libtards fool!

  29. TOM P O'DONNELL says


    1. C.M. Dawson says

      Tom, the NRA does have ads appealing to women in their magazines, but they could do more. Ranges here have a ladies’ day set aside, with instructors present, if needed, or they may target shoot at will. It’s a good thing for ladies to get together and talk about their needs.

      1. Masculist Man says

        Men are more likely to victims of violent crime than women are.

  30. 63Marine says

    I have been carrying for the last 14 years and only had to “Present” S&W .45 one time. That was in Portland, Or and the punk was a black puke. When he saw my gun, he almost puked on himself. I think he did schette his pants. I was prepared to “cap” the basterd if he came at me. He picked on the wrong Marine.

    Semper Fi

  31. C.M. Dawson says

    “I don’t have a Glock, but I have a Springfield Armory XDm”. That would seem to be an appropriate response. Wake up, America. Get your concealed carry permit, train for situational awareness, head on a swivel always.

    If it had been me in the victim’s shoes, I would have put my hand on my concealed weapon (still concealed) and said I don’t have a gun. This tells the mob you do have a gun, their move. If attacked by the group, it would have been my defensive weapon, against overwhelming violence.

    We need to take this country back, one thug at a time.

  32. Combatvet52 says

    Most of the time they attack like pack rats, come against me and your in trouble punk.
    Barry gave them all the OK since the Trayvon Martin case to beat up on whitey disgusting POS running the country or i should say RUINING the country.
    What do you do with a rattle snake

    1. Merle Dickey says

      Cut off it head

      1. Combatvet52 says

        Absolutely and watch the rest of it squirm

  33. I lived in Neptune beach in the early 90’s back before the so called BLACK FRATERNITY REUNION or freaknik. Once freaknik hit Jax beach all hell broke loose. If People do not remember this when all the blacks shut down both bridges going from Downtown to the beach. Ever since then the naggers have found another neighborhood to ruin and turn into a ghetto. I so hate NAGGERS! YOU NAGGERS ARE THE PARASITES OF THE WORLD!

  34. jondarmes says

    I considered it in 1964 when going to Chicago to work in the steel mills at age 18. I decided at the time that it was an excellent idea and have seen no reason to change my mind in the last 60 years.

  35. Move them niggers north
    Move them niggers north
    If they don’t like our southern ways then
    Move them niggers north

    Our South has been invaded by
    Trashy-lookin’ crew
    They’ll change our ways and take our schools
    Away from me and you
    It’s time for us to make a stand
    To keep our southern ways
    We’ve got to give a helping hand
    It’s unity that pays

    Move them niggers north
    Move them niggers north
    If they don’t like our southern ways then
    Move them niggers north…………………………

    They’re trying to start trouble
    By mixing up the races
    They feel a whole lot better off
    By staying in their places
    I like our South, man, the way it is
    I’m sure that you do too
    Oh, Martin Luther thinks it’s his
    I know he’s wrong, don’t you?

    Move them niggers north
    Move them niggers north
    If they don’t like our southern ways then
    Move them niggers north

    It’s time for us to make a stand
    To keep our southern ways
    We’ve got to give a helping hand
    It’s unity that pays

    Move them niggers north
    Move them niggers north
    If they don’t like our southern ways then
    Move them niggers north

    (Move them niggers north)
    (Move them niggers north)
    (Move them niggers north)
    Lyrics taken from this page

  36. The Congresswoman for Jacksonville is that stupid Nig Nog Corrine Brown who has a GED yet was given a Degree from UF. Check out her youtube debuts~ The Congressman for Jax Bch is Ander Crenshaw, the Rep is Janet Adkins both Republicans~ So go figure, Jax beach is now a shit hole and as dangerous as the thugs are the cops are as well and won’t help you.

  37. The house next door to me’s been sold to niggers.
    They claim to be wild Indians from the plains.
    Oh, but they ain’t a-shuckin’ me — they’re colored
    We’ll make “Cowboys and Niggers,” our new game.

    Last night when I come home, I’s warmly greeted.
    But not by my sweet wife sayin’, “Hello, Dear.”
    Instead it was, “Hello, duh. What mamma-jamma?”
    Says, “How does you like us dark folks livin’ here?”

    [Instrumental break.]

    I’d sell my house, but I ain’t had no offers.
    Though I paid twenty-thousand, I’d take two.
    ‘Cause this nigger crap’s done killed all my red roses.
    And my violets turned black instead of blue.

    Last night the N-A-A-C-P came a-callin’.
    I didn’t know what it was all about.
    Oh, but it didn’t take me long to understand them.
    When they said, “Won’t you kindly move your white butt

  38. doug says

    since the liberals have taken control of our country we law abiding citizens must protect ourselves, we won’t
    get it from this administration, all they want is to destroy America and it’s citizens, America arm yourselves
    it’s going to get worse, it’s their master plan

  39. michaelcain says

    Study from fight fast on line: destroy these thugs in their foot steps time for reckoning. ” little old white lady defeats young black gunsel ” Love it now we will arm our citizens with hope courage and speed of a gazel

  40. jillocity says

    2nd Amendment…protect yourselves…i am a 73 year old woman, and small at that….my age and size mark me in criminals’ eyes as “victim”…i refuse to be a victim, i will protect myself

  41. Allen Benge says

    Recommending hand-to-hand before going to weaponry sounds like a great idea, but what if you are unable to run or fight? I choose to carry a weapon because I have an artificial knee and am now resuperating from a broken ankle which required the implanting of a plate and seven screws. People who think they can defend against a sudden vicious attack are fooling themselves, usually. Martial arts takes long hard training to be useful in the street, and attackers usually know anything you might know. Having been a jail and prison officer as well as a deputy sheriff and security officer, my sidearm is a defense I trust. Most of the times that firearms have saved people, not one shot was fired. You do not display a firearm to intimidate someone, but when a BG sees a gun, he departs for parts unknown.

  42. slrcson says

    Absolutely, knives are great. Think about carrying throwing knives, steel batons anything that you can get without the hassle of a background check. Don’t be foolish!! Have the means to protect yourself and your loved ones.

    1. ward says

      The arts of self defense are really great but a firearm are the only defense of choice and the bo dictated regime fears that defense of U.S. Patriotic Citizens guns..! This self defense can really screw up his dictatorial crap of being a real treason criminal & wannabe dictator of tyranny …!

  43. The duck says

    If your a law abiding citizen, your not one of Barry’s friends.

  44. Art Hock says

    Where is the 2 dimwits, Jackson and Sharpton??? Race baiting assholes.

  45. phxgeo says

    Acts like Obama’s son.

  46. willi says

    What a sad world,we live in,LET me off be fore I knock someone out ,

  47. Annette Akerman says

    An armed society is a polite society.

  48. Harvey Melton says

    now that is intelligence for you, by asking first if a person is armed,i would say hell yeah whether i was or not let the gamble be theirs lol

    1. ward says

      Surprise reply ; no I do not have a Glock & as he attacks tell him it’s a Colt & eliminate the assault of him & the whole damn gang of the bo created problem ..!

  49. Harvey Melton says

    heard a story where a man was shopping in a walmart and there was a unrelated female stranger that came up behind him with a metal baseball bat and hit him in the back of the head with it, she got off with all charges dropped because of her meds they said that her meds dimed her judgement to the point that she just didnt realise the wrong that she was doing at the you never know you just have to be aware of what is going on around you as much as possible.

  50. michaelcain says

    If it is about surprises then wee can carry and surprise them . what would happen if we reverse this game ???
    I know a few guys that would like to take part in that and they can hit like a mule kicks

  51. Taz_man says

    The problem is the law protects the juvie.We grownups can’t hit the cowards for fear of going to jail and geting sued.These kids know it to. We adults need new laws helping us.

  52. Cranky Steven says

    The “knock-out” game can’t be a crime. It’s black thugs on whites, right?

  53. KatRob says

    As long as their guy is in the White House, this will only get worse. They’re comfortable, not thinking twice about crimes against Whites. Where I live there have been several black on White rapes and other violent black on White crimes. Don’t look at me, I didn’t put out the welcome mat!

  54. dave ussery says

    This is the main reason I got a weapon and a carry license!

  55. al.k says

    This is something one wants to take into consideration, anytime some young thug ask if you have a glock or a weapon, your answer should be try me and you will find out. we all have invisible weapons, things that are not considered weapons, we want to live peacefully and therefore we don’t need to be victims of this type people, if you have to shoot one of them in the back, your defense is that he attacked you unprovoked and you have the right to make sure he won’t do again, even if the law states you were no longer under threat because he was retreating, but always request a jury trial, you can not trust just the judges decision, he will say the law states you were no longer under threat and he will nail you, whereas a jury has the right to make the decision and the judge is required to rule on the jury’s decision, not the other way around.

  56. ihatelibs says

    Well… If you Try and Hit ME ??? You Better make it count. And, be able to Run , 1400 FPS . That’s how about fast my 357 140GR. Hone Defender load goes. Maybe its a bit faster . ( snicker ) 🙂

  57. lil-echoes says

    What I don’t understand is why the whites didn’t try and file charges on the blacks… surely someone can describe those thugs to the police…

  58. Ron Warren says

    The penalty for committing the “knockout” crime should be not less than ten years in a State or federal penitentiary with no parole. Show these hoodlum ficaliths we mean business.

  59. Combatvet52 says

    These AHoles are looking for a Vigilante Squad keep it up and they will meet them Barry has a big family but we are bigger and smarter.

  60. Andrew Owens says

    these are nothing but trouble making little punks,there actions are a by- product of Holder ,Obama and Sharpton. But when one of these law breaking thugs get themselves shot,you hear about how angelic they are.Start shooting them and this problem will stop!

  61. d66cmorris says

    If he’d been smart enough to be carrying there would have been one less of these azzwholes playing the game.

    1. glenn398 says

      Then he would have been looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life as those people will hunt you down.

      1. d66cmorris says

        Better to look over my shoulder than lay in the gutter dead and if I look long enough maybe I can get some more of the lowlife scumbags.

        1. glenn398 says

          I am with you on that just stating how the system seems to work against the innocent victim.

          1. d66cmorris says

            I know. It seems like the thugs get away with everything and the honest citizens are constantly getting a screwing from the liberal court system and I’ve seen it more than most people because I worked corrections for a sheriff’s department for 15 years.

  62. The Old One says

    No need for the KKK, just use retribution. You attack one of ours we re tribute to ten of yours.

  63. Chris says

    Sounds to me that the articial was written by a anti-gun liberal!! Like all elderly people can resort to hand to hand combat against some much younger and stronger person. As far as a knife is concerned, you have to be close and your attacker, my also have a knife or disarm you and take your knife away or better yet they may have a gun!!! You may want to do hand to hand combat, but they my want to use a weapon!! Sure you want to use your wits and avoid trouble, but that’s not always possible in the real world!! Remember , YOU DON’T BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT!! Carry concealed if possible and know how and when to use it!!

  64. glenn398 says

    Hand to hand combat, what a joke as how many know how to do that and usually they is a gang to begin with. As avoid getting into situations how, they roam everywhere unless they are saying don’t go out of your bared up home. This is truly your paying to breed welfare program at it’s best.

  65. fred says

    That is why cowards don’t want anyone to “carry”, the biggest cowards are in Washington, DC in my opinion, and the biggest of them is in the WH! this all part of their deluded plan to try to ban guns, as the UK and Australia how that’s working out for them and their escalating crime rate, now only the criminals have guns, they will never get those from the criminals now will they? Wake up! And the “knockout” game and gangs, etc, I think you can imagine the solution to that problem?!

    1. 1American1st says

      The guy in the White Mosque wants all white people disarmed so his “sons” can have the advantage because their weapons are usually illegal weapons purchased on a street corner or stolen.

      1. fred says

        yes indeed! The illegal alien fraud’s mission is to make the US a debtor nation to the criminals in Europe like George Soros and the quickest path is by not having anyone with a spine to fight back for our Constitutional rights! If we have the 2nd Amendment, they know they will lose any attempt to control us. But of course THEY will never give up their guns, will they? Look at the little fellow-Bloomberg-he rides around with an armed mercenary force wherever he goes! Hypocrites and criminals do not make good leaders… sorry! Funny/sad comment about the “white mosque”!

  66. PayTheMan says

    We live in an infirm society. What we need is a cultural reboot.


    When they catch these bastards everyone in the group should be charged with the same offenses the the person who did the punching ALL OF THEM. Just the way anyone who is with a killer gets charged with murder.

  68. TadhgMcLir says

    “Depending on the circumstances, it may be better to engage in hand-to-hand combat before turning to weaponry.” NO!!! starting hand-to-hand with a street fighter is ALWAYS a BAD idea. Usually the sight of a weapon will de-escalate a situation. Most people who say “I am a Black Belt” have only fought in tournaments with rules. There are no rules on the street. I am a 4th degree black belt, and I guarantee you I would pull my weapon first.

    1. Chris says

      Thanks for saying that you would pull your weapon first even though you are a 4th degree black belt.Like you said there are no rules on the street.

  69. Mark N Starla Traina says

    Man Punched In Face After Attacker Confirmed He Wasn’t Carrying a GLOCK!

    In Neptune
    Beach a BLACK 15-year-old walked up on a WHITE man who was alone, minding his
    own business. The BLACK teenager asked the WHITE man if he had a Glock. The WHITE
    man, confused, told the BLACK boy that he wasn’t carrying a weapon. That was
    all the BLACK teenager needed to hear. He punched the WHITE stranger in the
    face, making him the latest victim of the “knockout game,” a dangerous pastime
    that involves knocking out innocent and unsuspecting WHITE strangers. Several WHITE
    victims have been killed as a result of the game, and the Neptune Beach WHITE victim
    didn’t want to see that happen. He drew a knife after being attacked, a move
    that was apparently enough to send the BLACK teenager and his BLACK compatriots

    of this insidious game go back as far as 1992, though the last couple of years
    have seen a tremendous upswing in the trend. Unfortunately, there appears to be
    a racial element to the attacks, and most of the widely-reported incidents have
    been very much color-coordinated: BLACK men and BLACK teens attacking WHITE people.
    Republicans in New York and Wisconsin, among others, have strongly considered
    legislation that would elevate sentencing for Knockout Game assailants. Thus
    far, however, these bills have not come to fruition.

    Find out more:

    ZIO-MAINSTREAM MEDIA typically doesn’t cover these BLACK on WHITE HATE CRIMES
    so it’s up to U.S. to past this INFORMATION along over the INTERNET to WARN our
    imposing on U.S.!


    1. headonstraight says
  70. junkmailbin says

    the ogayarab administration the is most racist in history. they beat out the jim crow south and the kkk in their complete violations of civil rights of all except blacks

  71. Robert Pipczynski says

    You don’t have time to decide the appropriate weapon to use if you have a firearm blow the basted away. The only way this nonsense I s going to stop is to fight back with over well ming force.!

    1. headonstraight says

      “over well ming”??!! Whatdehellisdat?

  72. USCBIKER says

    When asked that question, you take a step back and say, “Yeah, wanna see it up close?”

  73. Connie Alsip says

    Yep, Barry’s sons are legion, and every one of the little fuckers are as evil as he is, just in a different way.

  74. Frank W Brown says

    And they all promote this…

    A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots!

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but

    not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might

    live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or

    to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might

    live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a

    check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not

    to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that

    was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from

    owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty

    F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a

    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but

    not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make

    you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is

    run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a

    wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman

    in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head

    searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but

    is run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions

    of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a

    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his

    teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class

    in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation

    that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more

    government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with

    Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free

    cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses

    but is run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to

    provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment

    checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was

    diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation

    that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest

    big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a

    wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government

    forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a

    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself

    makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a

    nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the media panders to your openly socialist leader while the IRS targets groups with dissenting views— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your government ‘cracks down’ on legal gun sales to law abiding citizens while secretly supplying illegal guns to Mexican drug cartels— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your local government (Chicago) outlawed gun ownership for ‘the safety of its citizens’ and now boasts the worst murder rate in the country — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    What a country!

    How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America?

    This was borrowed from another blog, author unknown, please spread it far and wide!

    1. headonstraight says

      If some right wing nutjob collects a bunch of right wing nuttiness and strings it together….

      1. Frank W Brown says

        Truth is Truth, FACTS are extremely stubborn!

  75. Mike Laborde says

    Barry and his bigoted racist administration along with the left wing democrats are nursing this evil along.

  76. joe says

    People need to start shooting these punks dead that will teach the rest of their criminal scum buddies there are consequences. Every law abiding citizen should carry a weapon and take out the scum of the earth doing this crap, clean the streets.

  77. PutinOnTheRitz says

    I love how this website sends out “Breaking News!” emails featuring articles, from 2014, that weren’t true then and aren’t true now. Knockout games? A media invention. Are there teenage punks who do stupid things? Yep. Have there always been teenage punks who do stupid things? Yup. Will there always be teenage punks who do stupid things? Yup.

    This could have been a much shorter article: Teenage Punk Does Stupid Thing. Again.

    1. glenn398 says

      Not really as this is a totally black thing and people have already died from this plus they don’t say how many get brain damage from it.

  78. ArizonaMilitiaDotCom says

    Hey, douchebags, PLEASE try that with me. I will send you to your Eternal Celestial Dirt Nap without hesitation.

    You just don’t hear about this kind of stupidity being attempted in Arizona. Concealed Carry has not required a permit since 2010. The “Knockout Game” here would quickly turn into the “Brought His Fists to a Gunfight Game” .

    Shoot ’em all, bury ’em deep, and forget that these douchebags ever shared the same air with the rest of us.

  79. gutz22 says

    Another example of what Barry The Bathhouse urban street apes do best.

  80. Richard Embrey Sr. says

    They absolutely need to apply VERY harsh penalties for this stupid “game” .

  81. Lastings says

    I feel so bad for all the stupid people in this comment section. It makes me wonder how you all are able to get through life on a daily basis.

  82. jlp5871 says

    LOCK AND LOAD. The time is getting close.

  83. Charles A. Stone says

    When Black people begin to love their own race, theirs & the whole world will be better off.

    1. glenn398 says

      Never will happen

  84. dominke says

    when do we start fighting back? After someone tries to kill us? I won’t be a stat at morgue. Defend to end, take no prisoners

  85. Jacky says

    There is no point in try to deal with the dem bloodsuckers, their way of life is buying votes with handouts.
    Time to give them half and get out.
    Contact our legislators demand that they set up a national referendum on partitioning the USA it is likely the only way to prevent civil war..

  86. doza says


  87. echambliss1 says

    Come to Mississippi and ask me if I’m carring. Not taking any BS you’re going to find out the hard way !

  88. David says

    I think that participants in the “knock out” game should be prosecuted for hate crimes no matter what color.
    But then it would still be racist because 90% of the convictions would be “minorities”. And I’d be charged with a hate crime if I shot one in self defense. The Good and Honorable Rev. Al $harptongue wants it to be a Federal crime for Whitey to shoot a black person for ANY reason, even Self Defense.
    Our Beautiful country has gone Batshit crazy since 2008. Gee, I wonder what the correlation is ?

  89. Robert Gelzhiser says

    “Knockout Game?” BULL NO GAME!-“New legislation?” BULL ASSAULT is ASSAULT! (“JUST ENFORCE ALL THE LAWS THAT EXIST AGAINST THESE HIDIOUS ACTIONS WITH MAXIMUM PENALTY ALLOWED NO MATTER WHAT RACE!”) I recommend “5-10” years with no parole for injuring persons and “DEATH” for permanent injuries or murders!!!!

  90. ward says

    Typical of the race that brings arrests & being shot because they are law breaking hateful criminals that deserve the demise they create for themselves & then cry “racism” lies for a cover up of their crimes…. !

  91. The duck says

    I was just reading about the U.N. Agenda 21. Everyone needs to read about this one and find the one ‘Democrats Against Agenda 21. Then remember the southern border and Barry’s Amnesty E.O. What an eye popper. Racial discrimination is part and parcel with this man. Agenda 21 scares the pants off me.
    The knockout punch is no doubt an out growth of this. Better get a CC and know the how, why and when to use it.

  92. Alleged Comment says

    Is the word “teenager” and “youth” the new names for Negroes?

  93. daveveselenak says

    How fuk’d up has this country gotten? Knock out GAME my ass, this is assault and battery! These black bastards need their comeuppance and I hope they get it – r============?

  94. KatRob says

    Maybe if a few of these ghetto trash pieces of crap were shot by a conceal and carry victim, this nonsense will stop. I say when they commit a violent crime, they and their entire family should be deported back to the Homeland, donning loin cloths and living in mud huts like God intended.

  95. BS1986 says

    That’s why I carry.
    “Hey man you got a Glock?” RESPONSE “YUP, want to meet him?”

  96. billy396 says

    If Bozo had a son…

  97. headonstraight says

    Welcome to a forum topic dominated by RACIST drivel posted by BIGOTS!!!!!!

    1. raziel71 says

      If speaking the thruth is being a bigot then you must be a leftard minded liberal. This is not made up. it is something happening and you only have to watch youtube to see it. Now leftcrap like you live in a fantasy world lead by your lefturd in chief Obama.

      1. headonstraight says

        A few examples of racism from this forum, just to show you how wrong you are:

        “donning loin cloths and living in mud huts like God intended.”


        “Is the word “teenager” and “youth” the new names for Negroes? Like the word “president” too?”

        “The house next door to me’s been sold to niggers.They claim to be wild Indians from the plains.
        Oh, but they ain’t a-shuckin’ me — they’re colored
        We’ll make ‘Cowboys and Niggers,’ our new game.”


        RACIST ENOUGH FOR YOU, raziel71?

  98. Richard says

    Move to N.C. no problems with open carry here, see it all the time, only question, Do you have a permit? If answer is yes , Let me see it and have a good day , in my town.

  99. REK says

    The knockout game is a racist game allowed by our media so blacks can attack white people

  100. Poodleguy says

    Sometimes the dreaded term, n!gger is applicable, is it not? Just another valid reason to carry 24/7……

  101. raziel71 says

    Your presumption that a “knife can sometimes be just the trick ” is stupid. After you have been punch you might not even be in shape to strike back with a knife. Specially if there is more than one attacker. You should inmediately be in a defensive stance when someone is asking you if you have a weapon.

  102. raziel71 says

    The media dont talk too much about this because it is blacks attacking whites, which for the media is ok.

  103. raziel71 says

    It is no game . It is assault and battery and reason enough to be fired back if the law allows it.

  104. David says

    Carry all you want but when it comes to being blindsided like in the knockout game situational awareness is the key. A gun, knife or baseball bat won’t do any good if you don’t see it coming.

  105. Lougjr1 says

    Unfortunately, there is so much bull crap going on that the congress can’t seem to get any legislation passed. This knockout game whereby some have lost their life doesn’t fit the importance of an emergency . But let it happen to one of their family members, maybe that will help to get something done !

    1. Joe T says

      Lougr1……..You speak the TRUTH….

      Proposed 28th Amendment, 35 States and Counting

      It will take you less than a minute to read this. If you agree, please pass it on. It’s an idea

      whose time has come to deal with this self serving situation:

      Children of Congress members do not have to pay back their college student loans.

      Staffers of Congress family members are also exempt from having to payback student loans.

      Members of Congress can retire at full pay after only one term.

      Members of Congress have exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed, under which ordinary citizens must live.

      For example, they are exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment.

      And as the latest example, they have exempted themselves from Healthcare Reform, in all of its


      We must not tolerate an elite class of such people, elected as public servants and then putting

      themselves above the law.

      I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent, or whatever. The self-serving

      must stop.

      Governors of 35 states have filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful

      burdens upon their states. It only takes 38 (of the 50) States to convene a

      Constitutional Convention.

      IF??? Each person that receives this will forward it on to 20 people, in three days most people in The

      United States of America will have the message.

      Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

      “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply

      equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the Citizens of the United States…”

      Read and rip….

      1. Lougjr1 says

        OK Joe T, your post has been sent on. Thanks !

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