New Report: Obama Voters Pushed Trump to Victory


If you ask Hillary Clinton and her campaign team why she lost the 2016 election to Donald Trump, she’ll supply you with a nearly-limitless list of answers, none of them having anything to do with her own failings. The “vast right-wing conspiracy” was at work against her. The Russians, in deep, treasonous collusion with Trump, hijacked the election. Bernie Sanders and his damn populist base crippled the final months of her campaign, when she should have been sailing breezily to the nomination. And don’t forget Benghazi, the email scandal, and her temporary illness, all of which were turned from molehills to mountains by the evil Trumpers. Finally, the biggest culprit of all: FBI Director James Comey and his dastardly letter to Congress two weeks before the election.

Once you get out from under the Hillary Clinton Umbrella of Excuses, though, you typically hear Democrats explaining the November results in one simple, easily-digestible soundbite: She failed to excite the liberal base, Trump did just the opposite on the Republican side, abracadabra, ye olde glass ceiling remained unbroken.

But according to a new analysis of the 2016 election, Clinton’s biggest problem wasn’t that the Democrat base stayed home, it was that Barack Obama’s voters moseyed out to the polls…and voted for Donald Trump.

From McClatchy DC:

Those Obama-Trump voters, in fact, effectively accounted for more than two-thirds of the reason Clinton lost, according to Matt Canter, a senior vice president of the Democratic political firm Global Strategy Group. In his group’s analysis, about 70 percent of Clinton’s failure to reach Obama’s vote total in 2012 was because she lost these voters.


The findings are significant for a Democratic Party, at a historic low point, that’s trying to figure out how it can win back power. Much of the debate over how to move forward has centered on whether the party should try to win back working-class white voters – who make up the bulk of Obama-Trump voters – or focus instead on mobilizing its base.

And yet, you can look at the current machinations within the Democratic Party and see that they’re concentrating on exactly the wrong thing. Instead of learning from this historic rejection of their agenda, they are doubling down on the radical left-wing ideas that appeal to the Sanders Nation – ideas that couldn’t even make Sanders the nominee. Ideas that are a huge turnoff for many mainstream Democrats, who already feel the party has drifted too far to the left for their liking.

If they keep ignoring what’s right under their noses, they’re going to protest, protest, protest their way to another embarrassing failure in 2018.

  1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

    The legacy as being the worst PRESIDENT IN HISTORY who tried to destroy every aspect of a free society and lost! OBAMA was a disaster and a Disgrace, Globalist atheist Low energy mentally disturbed anti America…. President! Obama was defeated! Crooked Evil lying Hillary was defeated, fake news Cnn, Msnbc, Abc, huff post, Ny times Fake news defeated and Liberalism crushed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AMERICA WOKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP & REAL AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Justin Seine says

      The Feckless Four!

      1. SD of AZ says

        And the new ones that have joined their ranks. I am so totally disgusted with congress. September is the new line in this get on your reps, senators and that is at all levels. We will have our mandate, now we need to put real pressure on the lying congress! Let em hear from you daily between now and September. I have already started! An email, a tweet, a call to them daily or as often as you can. And be prepared to vote em out. If they cross the September line with this same agenda, it is time to fire em. And push for term limits, however that has to happen! The pictures above make the need to remove the reps and the senators is a great argument for term limits, particularly Pelosi. Been there far too long.

        1. Steven A. See says

          I agree and there are many more, like John McCain.
          Most if not all the Democrats need to go but there are Republicans that have been there to long. It’s way past time, we the people should demand term limitations for all!

          1. diana88diana says

            Alas, Steven, it’s not “to long”, it’s “too long”. Perhaps you the people should have stayed in school a bit longer. You have balls calling for limits on educated people when you’re still struggling with the English language.

          2. tinker1 says

            Boy are you going to get knocked off your box someday for your disgusting arrogance!

          3. bttrap says

            I would kike to see that

          4. AKLady says

            Another one with language problems.

          5. Tim says

            HEY BILL, this is no lady hell this is not even a man. Just a troll that needs a foot shoved down there throat. Then thrown back into the sewer with the rest of the demo-rats. maybe our president will try and beat that faggot nigger you put in office an discriminate over 10,000 times. My language problem is nothing compared to your lunacy!

          6. AKLady says

            Hey, Tim, try some maturity; you might even like being an adult.

          7. Tim says

            So all you can do is comment on someone’s english grammar? Got to be a liberal snowflake. Being proper and speaking proper english snowflake does not make people smart by no means. Sorry to disappoint you. And your silly & down right dumb to think the people in congress or any type of government job for that matter is smart. Only a dumbass would think so. Now here is another comment you can find lots of bad grammar & you can feel smart again by pointing it out. ” But you understand what we saying though huh” ?

          8. AKLady says

            Sew language.
            Childish insults.
            Way to go, Tim. Just so mature.

          9. jimmy midnight says

            Just like us liberal snowflakes, U conservative candyasses, or is it suckbutts, can B called out 4 about anything, which certainly includes bad grammar. My experience over these few years shows a powerful correlation between conservative views and the inability to chose correct forms of: your, you’re; its, it’s; their, there, they’re; two, to, too.

            As sort of a joke, I use the figure 2 in just about all cases. Maybe some of U should, 2. I think it’s obvious that none of this is actually related to intellectual capacity. People who’ve learned 2 speak are all comparably “smart.” But poor grammar does point 2 an inability 2 think in an independent, organized, way, thus using capacity 4 something other than venting.

            I think everybody’s smart. But even very smart people can embody the, clueless, thoughtless, heartless, shameless thing from time 2 time. Glaringly incorrect grammar points very accurately at thoughtlessness.

            I am able 2 understand your post, and I find that it’s a word-salad. Just as salads R mostly green, what U have 2 say is basically thoughtless, just like I said.

          10. Bill says

            A simple, proven fact for geniuses like you. Communism doesn’t work. If you love it so much, go live in Cuba or North Korea. Venezuela seems to be opening up for you too, now. You despise capitalism, which is a natural way for humans to live, and think that government will ever be wise and benevolent enough to make everything “fair.” Thus, you prefer tyranny to liberty. Talk about being clueless!

          11. jimmy midnight says

            Only suckbutts make blanket condemnation statements about, “Communism.” It served the old USSR pretty cussed well in allowing them 2 industrialize at a very rapid pace.

            Yeah, they did have an oppressive system, a characteristic that’s been systematically exaggerated. Compare that 2 places like the Marcos’ Phillipines, Mobutu’s Congo, or Pinochet’s Chile.

            Anyway, democratic socialism is what we’re aiming at. Ideally, it would unleash the power of market systems, and both technological innovation and mutually beneficial price discovery, and can B appropriately adjusted when it falls short of that.

            Government does often fall short, but the alternative is corporate domination. Failure, continuously, 2 B wise and benevolent, is 2 B compared to exploitation by entities, that by law, can only B motivated by greed. “Fiduciary Responsibility,” and all that kinda cool stuff.

            A, “Natural way 4 Humans 2 live,” so’s living in caves, wearing skins, a following migrating herds of cud-chewers. In the brain you’ve condemned 2 uselessness through corporate-induced ideology, thoughtless

          12. Bill says

            “The problem with Socialism is that, eventually, you run out of other people’s money.” (M. Thatcher) We see that you are still trying to make something that doesn’t work into something that does. Everywhere it is practiced, it brings mediocrity and decay to the areas involved. So, go after your oppressive, productivity discouraging system. At least you have been honest to say that you want to pursue your delusion. I wish you would stop trying to take freedom and opportunity away from the rest of us, though. Many people who like freedom won’t take that lying down.

            As for corporate domination, yes, that needs adequate control. Teddy Roosevelt saw that, and made some good reforms. More may be needed. But you and I don’t have to do what corporations want. When you let government get out of control, it’s a different story. You are playing with matches, perhaps because you’ve never seen the house burn down.

            If you had lived under Stalin, unable to more than whisper any disagreement while under your bed blankets for fear of being executed or sent to a gulag, you would probably have less desire for a big, controlling government. But we all have to learn, hopefully not the hard way. That’s my “candyass” viewpoint.

          13. jimmy midnight says

            Well, my point of view is that you’re doing exactly what the biggest corporate interests want U to do, by thinking what you’re thinking and saying what you’re saying.

            We’ll become an even freer, better USA by increasing our resemblance to the French, Canadians, and Danes. Happy Spring, anyway. It’s something even candyasses R entitled 2 enjoy.

          14. Bill says

            I don’t want to be as oppressed by government and handed my meals in my cell as the French, Canadians, and Danes have it. You could move there, if that’s what you love. I’m a forest animal, not a farm animal who loves to be cared for and controlled in its pen. That is surely the biggest difference between us. Your ideal world doesn’t attract me at all, but you want to force it on me through government, while I would simply leave you to choose what you like.

          15. Tim says

            There you go, couldn’t have proved my point any better than you did. Thanks

          16. Tim says

            No wonder your mother want have anything to do with you.

          17. jimmy midnight says

            Can’t have anything 2 do with me, having been deceased 4 well over 50 years. I bet even U know the difference between “want” and “won’t,” but people reading your post above, “won’t” know it.

            Your carelessness disrespects all of us. Candyass.

          18. Tim says

            yea Jimmy I hear ya, but see I could give a fuck less on how you spell want & you just showed everyone in this one comment just what an arrogant snot nose low life piece of shit you are. I am not a Candyass never have been rather be dead. But I believe you are sissy ass punk who likes to talk the talk & never ever walk the walk. Cowards never do.

          19. jimmy midnight says

            R U sure you’re not a Candyass? Then U must be a suckbutt. But if I C U at the peace vigil maybe you’ll admit I’m walkin’.

          20. Tim says

            If I were to see anywhere I’d show you just how much of a candyass I am fuck boy. If you still have your real teeth I’d slap a few of them down your throat and piss on you while you lay there and bleed bitch

          21. Bill says

            Instead of getting the point, you check the grammar. Glad your English
            is so good. Now do a check on the rest of your brain. Education should
            not equal leftism. It’s a definite non-sequitur; an academic confidence
            in what does not add up at all. However, education (humanities in
            particular) is now emotional, political persuasion, a few facts, and
            almost no understanding.

          22. April Stoner says

            Feel bigger now? No one likes a gotcha, I’m better than you kind of post.

          23. bttrap says

            I didn’t know this was a spelling contest, you know where to stick that extra “O don’t you?

          24. AKLady says

            Sewer language.
            You talk like one, do you also smell like one?

          25. Bill says

            This from a woman who doesn’t like people using insults…

          26. AKLady says

            Well none of them have got caught, charged and fined.
            The idiot you put in office has been: Discrimination over 200 times.

          27. donl says

            Show us the 200 times!!

          28. AKLady says

            Are you really so lazy you cannot do an Internet search?

          29. Gammi2Anna says

            I have avoided responding to your ridiculous comments for some time now, because you bore me with your lazy lunacy. However, after reading your comments in which you demand sources for the information everyone else writes about, I would like to ask you to likewise provide sources for all your accusations of criminal activity committed by OUR President. I do not accept a news organization as a source so don’t bother me with that. After Stephen Colberts’ homophobic rant and suggestive language of encouragement for attacks against President Trump, his family and all of us that support him, I do not regard any faction of the MSM and their trolls to be a reliable source. They are like many, maybe even you, just angry, spiteful people who would rather see America collapse rather than work together to rebuild what Obama destroyed over the past 8 years.

          30. AKLady says

            Start your education with United States v. Trump, 1973, NY.
            There are over 200 just like it.

          31. Gammi2Anna says

            I do not care what Donald Trump was doing in 1973 just as I’m sure you did not care what Bill Clinton was doing in 1973. I would not fear placing a substantial bet that you are a staunch supporter of both he and his wife, who has even more criminal ‘stank’ surrounding her than Bill and his pedophile buddies combined. Do you enjoy living your sanctimonious life in which you are willing to go back 45 years just to find a tidbit of mediocre material, hoping to destroy another persons life? Life is too short for each of us, so why waste so time on futile efforts to smear the reputation of others? Nothing can be gained by all the angst and violence this type of behavior generates. Imagine what we could so, as a collective unit that agreed to work for the betterment of America rather than have people being paid to riot and commit criminal acts of violence in our streets. In 4 or 8 years, what will we have to show for anything if we continue down this road? BTW, where was Barrack Hussein Obama in 1973?

          32. AKLady says

            In 193, Obama was 12 years old.

          33. AKLady says

            In 1973, Obama was 12 years old,
            He was not breaking the law.

          34. Gammi2Anna says

            I did not ask how old Barack Hussein Obama was in 1973. I ask where Barrack Hussein Obama was in 1973. I guess you were there making sure that there was no one breaking any laws at that time as well. You must be a very busy person, having to always be everywhere, knowing what everybody is doing and using your legal expertise as to whether any laws are being broken at that very moment. How do you find the time to be on every comment site I have ever visited expressing your egocentric opinions, forcefully on most occasions?

          35. AKLady says

            He was in school in Hawaii

          36. Gammi2Anna says

            Wow, you were able to obtain the records to prove that Obama was in school in Hawaii! How on earth were you able to do that when not one Congressional investigation or News Organization was ever able to get his records. As a matter of fact no one was even able to find a classmate or teacher that could confirm Obama’s presence in any school. Not for kindergarten, elementary, high school or college could any records or friendships be confirmed. Well there was that one where Obama and a “friend” was traveling all about Pakistan, with all expenses paid by the “friends” wealthy father. But then again, we only have Obama’s word about that because once again, no one has ever come forward to confirm that friendship either. I find it difficult to imagine that throughout Obama’s lifetime, no one has sought the claim to fame in releasing their personal story of a friendship or relationship with him, such as a fellow student, teacher/professor, employer, neighbor. NO ONE, NONE, ZERO. Why? Since you are smart enough to have obtained his school records from Hawaii, can you find an answer to these questions, with sources to backup the information, of course.

          37. AKLady says

            The school published a note saying h4 had attended
            Also school published the graduation class

          38. Gammi2Anna says

            Really? Wonder why it was never published by all the media organizations that have so fervently searched for proof of just where Obama came from? Of course you still have not provided real documented and sourced material that can answer the still unsubstantiated stories of Obama’s growing up in America. I guess there are no experts with these answers because I’ve been searching since 2007. Nothing. Nada. Nary a single iota of Proof can be found. But, what can we expect from a man that has a SS# that was issued to a female in Connecticut when the history he gave us is that he was born a male in Hawaii?

        2. Bill says

          When it comes to the next elections, I hope a lot of uncorrupted new people run as Republicans against the RINO insiders. This is a tough swamp to drain, with term limits being hard to establish. We need a solution, and fast.

          1. bttrap says

            how about a hanging?

          2. AKLady says

            You elect Congress.
            Maybe you should make better choices.

          3. Bill says

            If I elected Congress, it would not be the Congress that we have. What sense do you think you are making?

          4. AKLady says

            You don’t vote?

          5. Bill says

            I absolutely vote. In fact, once in a while, I get to see a person that I voted for take office. But, it really shouldn’t surprise you, my vote alone does not decide the makeup of Congress. So, if the nation is in the gutter, it is not because of my vote. Maybe it is because of your vote. That would of course mean that you should make better choices, and not I. Do you think that might be the case?

        3. bttrap says

          don’t leave out the democrap judges they need to be cleaned out also with term limits

          1. AKLady says

            Name calling.
            Sewer language.
            You talk like one, do you also smell like one?

        4. AKLady says

          Trump was charged and find for laundering money for the mob.
          Trump was charged and fined for laundrring money for his campaign fund.
          Trump was charged and fined for running an illegal school.

          1. usmcltc says

            And yet, he was smart enough to beat your old worn out liberals woman. What does that say about Hillary and the liberals?

          2. AKLady says

            Dishonest — Yes,
            Smart — No.
            What was it that we heard about Russia’s involvement in the election?
            Suggest you look who bailed Trump out of his SEVENTH Bankruptcy.

          3. usmcltc says

            I say again, Trump was smart enough to beat your old morally and ethically bankrupt Democrat candidate.

          4. AKLady says

            United States v. Trump, 1973, NY There are 200 more just like it. Educate yourself.

          5. usmcltc says

            Just proves that Trump, as a private citizen, what NOT “too big to indict” like the Clintons with all of their power and clout.

          6. AKLady says

            For a crime to exist, there must be “intent”.
            In the case of some crimes, “intent” is understood to exist.

            If Hillary was charged, everyone who mailed to that server would also need to be charged.

            You know where the e-mail you receive came from.
            You know where the reply you write is going.

            Don’t whine Hillary this, Hillary that.
            Use you head for thinking and deal in honesty.
            There are a minimum of two people involved in every e-mail/

            Factually, Trump’s crimes took place in NYC.
            Trump is a “made man” both La Costa Nostra and the KKK.
            The New Jersey money laundering Trump got caught with was mob money.

          7. usmcltc says

            2 of 2
            With your knowledge of the law, I am surprised that you would try to mislead me just to make a point.

            For a crime to exist, there must be “intent”. From Comey announcement about the Clinton email FBI investigation: Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

            From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information.

            Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

            For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail

          8. AKLady says

            For intent to be present, there must be both mens rea and actus recus. I find it quite possible that mens rea either did not exist or could not be proven.

          9. usmcltc says

            Intent did not have to be proven!

          10. AKLady says

            Maybe you should hold law classes for the experts over at DOJ.
            They don’t seem to agree with you.
            Oh, and just for grins, why are you not screaming for Colin Powell’s head?
            He committed the very same alleged crime.

          11. usmcltc says

            Comey’s briefing: Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way. Get the part where he said, “…making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally OR in a grossly negligent way.”. The mishandling of classified information does NOT have to be “intentional” to be a felony, as it can be in a grossly negligent way.
            Why Colin Powell? You will have to ask the FBI and Attorney General about that.

          12. AKLady says

            mens re·a
            menz ˈrēə/
            noun: mens rea
            the intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused.

          13. usmcltc says

            You keep bringing up Powell, why? Liberals had their chance to hold him accountable, and they missed their change. For you to keep bringing him up is like “crying over spilled milk”. Too little too late.
            Your comments about intent are irrelevant, as the fix was in.
            1. Lynch said that she would accept the FBI’s recommendation BEFORE the investigation was complete. Thus, covering her behind>
            2. Comey said that the FBI was recommending that Hillary not be held accountable for her actions, not indicted. BUT, made it clear that the Department of Justice (Lynch) would make the FINAL decision. He covered his behind.
            3. Lynch reiterated that she would accept the FBI’s recommendation, as she had previously stated. She covered her behind.
            4 Of course the meeting between Bill Clinton and Lynch had NOTHING to do with the fix, as they just talked about their grandchildren, right?

          14. usmcltc says

            2 of 2

            None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

            Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. So much for the, “I did not send or receive any documents that were MARKED as classified”.

            Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. BS – The cover up starts!

            To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now. The cover up continues.

          15. AKLady says

            Everyone connected to those e-mails are just as guilty as Hillary was. None of these e-mails should have been sent to an unclassified system. However, I am betting Hillary’s server was probably a safer bet than the government agency’s.

            Suggest you remember that the computer you are using, as we speak, is a server. It serves monitors, an Internet modem, and probably a printer as well. Security system? Unlike the agency mainframe or network, all I have to do it unplug it.

            I served. I was a military officer’s wife, as well. I know all about “classified”. I am certain your spouse has heard more of her share of “top secret,” bed-side” conversations.

            Try to remember Hillary’s hard disk was professionally erased. They could not bring a case unless the individuals who communicated with her admitted guilt, Obviously, they could not find anyone willing to incriminate themselves.

          16. usmcltc says

            My God, you treat classified information like it was a joke. When I was assigned to the National Military Command Center in the Pentagon, I had a SI (one step above TS) clearance. And, my wife NEVER heard ANY To Secret “bedside conversations”. If you did, it doesn’t say much about your husband. I am shocked that you would say this about classified information,
            You keep right on saying that Hillary did nothing wrong, if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. But, remember there are people in prison for doing a lot less with classified information than Hillary.

          17. AKLady says

            I had the very same clearance as my husband.
            I still have it, in fact.
            I have a clue for you, if your spouse did not qualify for the clearance you were considered for, you would not have passed muster.
            Why are you not screaming for Colin Powell’s head?
            He committed the very same “alleged crime”.
            Admitted to doing so.
            Come on, tell us your reasoning Clinton needs to be prosecuted and Powell should get a free ride?

          18. usmcltc says

            The fact that you had the same security clearance as your husband is irrelevant, as a security clearance is based on a “need to know” basis. YOU should know that, as it is questionable that you so openly discussed classified information with someone who many not have had a need to know.
            If your clearance is still active, it is because you still have a need to know. Security clearances are removed when you leave an assignment where you had a need to know, like my job at the Pentagon. My clearance was “pulled” the day I was detached, and I could not travel out of the 48 states for two years.
            Again, Colin Powell? He should have been investigated. Why he wasn’t you will have to ask the FBI and Attorney General about that. Are you saying that since Powell was not investigated and indicted, Hillary should get a free pass for her actions? That is like saying, “Don’t indict this bank robber because a previous bank robber was NOT indicted. Two different cases.

          19. AKLady says

            I am a physician, a surgeon. People talk under anesthesia, more under some forms than others. Life situations causing marked stress to the individual are often the topic of choice.

            Powell was investigated. He was not charged for the same reasons Hillary was not. He did not run for President. No one felt the need to throw mud.

          20. usmcltc says

            Trump is a “made man” both La Costa Nostra and the KKK. What!? Don’t you know that you have to be a full blooded Italian to be “made” in the Costra Nostra? I do not even know how to respond to your absurd comments. Why do you spread such lies, as it is above you to do so.

          21. AKLady says

            You are out of date. Blood Italian and a qualifying murder are no longer required for membership. Now, “heavy earners” are brought into the elite “club”. Next time do some research before telling me I am mistaken.

            In March 2015, the State of New Jersey documented Trump was laundering money for the mob through his casino. That is a fact of legal record. The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) imposed a $10 million civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort (Trump Taj Mahal), for willful and repeated violations of the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA).

            To expand his real estate developments over the years, Donald Trump, his company and partners repeatedly turned to wealthy Russians and oligarches from former Soviet republics

          22. usmcltc says

            Traditionally, in the Italian-American Mafia, in order to become a true made man, the inductee had to be a male of full Italian descent. Today, it is believed that the Italian-American Mafia has loosened this requirement so that males of half-Italian descent through their father’s line can also be inducted. According to Salvatore Vitale, it was decided during a Commission meeting in 2000 to restore the rule requiring both parents to be Italian; however, this rule was explicitly for the Five Families in New York City, and in practice the rule may be overlooked even in New York City in certain cases. Where did you get the information that men of “non-Italian” blood can become “made men”? Do you really think Trump is a “made man” in the mafia? If so, you have lost it, big time.

          23. AKLady says

            Please, you are talking about two decades in the past.
            Vitale ratted in 2000. This is 2017.

            Suggest you look at the genealogy of Salvatore Vitale, John Gotti, Andrew Thomas DelGiorno. Francis P. Salemme …
            I attended private Catholic School with daughter of the head of the Florida Mafia. I dated one of his bodyguards. The guy could not qualify for a drivers’ liscense, he was an elliptic.

          24. usmcltc says

            I am not going to debate you about who can be a “made man” as it has nothing to do with our discussion, other that you claim Trump is a “made man” in the Mafia, which is ridiculous. That being said, I assume you agree with the Mafia help get JFK elected. Did I get that right?

          25. AKLady says

            Sorry, I was too young to be interested in things of that nature at that time.

            Did they? However, there are documented ties between the Kennedys and the underworld. After all, grandpa made his money smuggling alcohol during prohibition. If you are interested in the Kennedy history, I sugest yyou read “The Patriarch: The Remarkable Life and Turbulent Times of Joseph P. Kennedy” by David Nasaw..

            What I do know is that New York real-estate is, and has been, mob controlled for over 200 years, That is a matter of documented, legal history. I know that grandpa Trump ran a whorehouse and gambling parlor in the Yukon — it is still standing. I do know that Daddy Trump was a founding member od the NYC Chapter of the KKK, again, legally documented history.

          26. AKLady says

            Wee Mr. Not to big to indict was done over 200 times. That makes him a habitual criminal. Hence, America has a Criminal President and a Russian First Lady.

          27. usmcltc says

            I didn’t think that a felon could be president. Oh, you didn’t say “felon”, as you said “habitual criminal”. How many times has he been indicted and found guilty in a court of law. I looked and couldn’t find any record of him being in criminal court and found guilty of any crimes.
            Mrs. Trump is a United States citizen who is a immigrant. What do you have against LEGAL immigrants?

          28. AKLady says

            Start your education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973.
            There are 200 cases just like it.
            Discrimination is a crime. It is a violation of federal law.

            The 1973 charges were violations of the Fair Housing Act/Fair Housing Amendments Act (FHAA), 42 U.S.C. §§ 3601 et seq.

          29. usmcltc says

            Regardless of what you say, Trump IS our president, so you should get used to it, as we got used to Obama for eight long years.

          30. AKLady says

            He has already violated the Constitution 28 times.
            How long do you think he will remain in office?
            The recent refugee ban is a prime example. His people wrote it up nice and legal, but that is not what came out of his mouth. His voiced remarks were Muslim, Muslim, Muslim .. With a little luck, someone can teach him to keep his mouth shut, but that is very doubtful..
            No, my oath requires I uphold the Constitution.

          31. usmcltc says

            When did violate the Constitution?

            How long will he remain in office? At least four years.

            There is plenty of presidence for a president to ban groups of people from the U.S..

            And who are the foreign terrorists: Muslim, Muslim, Muslim

            However, the oath of enlistment for enlisted personnel includes, “…and that I will and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” There seem to be a problem here, as all enlisted personnel are required to obey the orders of the President of the United States while liberals are trying to get rid of the president. Don’t expect help from the military.

          32. AKLady says

            Actually he did not.
            Buying the Electoral College is not winning.
            Russian election tampering is not winning.
            You should be up in arms, but no, you don’t give a hoot …
            Anything is fine with you, your man is in office.
            So much for your Oath of Office. As an officer, you should be aware that the oath you took is lifetime, as well as the Commission granted by Congress.

          33. usmcltc says

            Just HOW did he “buy” the Electoral College?
            One of your leading liberal women said today that she has seen NO evidence that Trump conspired with the Russians.
            I get up in arms over real issues, not ones made up by liberals to explain how they blew a “sure thing” (Hillary’s election).
            You bet! Everything IS fine as my man is now in the White House.
            Save you sermon about the oath, as there is nothing that you can tell me that I do not already know.

          34. ABO says

            Don’t waste your time arguing with the delusional idiot that calls itself AKLady, Colonel. She makes up her “facts” as she goes along and lives in her own little myopic fantasyland. Nothing but a pathetic Troll.

          35. AKLady says

            How are Electors selected in your state?
            Do you really think that large donations to a political party does not influence the Elector’s votes?
            Russia admits to hacking our election systems.
            Real issues? You mean like Russian bombers, accompanied by fighters, flying off the coast of Alaska?
            Do you remember what America’s B-52s did during the Cold War?
            Well what was good for the goose, is now good for the gander.
            What happens when one of those pilots makes a mistake?

          36. usmcltc says

            The Democrats raised way more money than the Republicans. Is it our fault that the Democrats did NOT spend their money in the right places? I think not.

            Russia admits to hacking our election systems.” They have done no such thing, in fact, one of your leading lady liberals from California said yesterday who sets on the committee said yesterday that she has seen NO evidence that the Russians acted with the Trump people.
            I do not know what you point is with the rest of your comment.

      2. Gary Smith says

        Good call

      3. The Capatin says

        I like that.

      4. says

        Three CIA agents and a tranny followed by our first openly jewish president.

      5. AKLady says

        Trump was charged and find for laundering money for the mob.
        Trump was charged and fined for laundrring money for his campaign fund.
        Trump was charged and fined for running an illegal school.

      1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says


        1. AKLady says

          Right! That is why he has the lowest approval rate of any President in the past 100 years.

          1. AKLady says

            Why do you steal?
            Why do you think I would be impressed by something you stole?

          2. Bill says

            They never asked me or GODBlessRealAmerica! what we think. And before the election, the same pollsters thought it was a slam dunk for Hillary to win. Don’t believe all the statistics that you claim to read.

          3. usmcltc says

            Are these the same people who said Hillary had a 90% chance of winning the presidency on the morning of the election? I think that they damaged their reputation for accurate projecting results, right?

          4. AKLady says

            She won the popular vote. Where have you been?
            Was it one of your Electors who voted for Ron Paul?

          5. usmcltc says

            You of all people! “She won the popular vote. How many time have YOU posted that the people DO NOT elect the president and never have, normally followed by some reference that the person should learn more about history. NOW, since Hillary lost, you want to reference the “popular vote”. How do you say hypocrite?
            Who cares who ONE elector voted for, as enough electors voted for Trump to get HIM elected. End of story.

          6. AKLady says

            Try looking up facts before insulting.
            More than one Elector was involved.

          7. usmcltc says

            I am sorry if you took my comment as an insult, as all I did was feed back to you what YOU have said many times. Now, since Hillary lost, you have changed your tune and seem to be pushing the popular vote position.

            You said, “Was it one of your Electors who voted for Ron Paul?” And, I answered, “Who cares who ONE elector voted for, as enough electors voted for Trump to get HIM elected.” You spoke of “one” elector, and I answered about “one” elector. Then you come back with, “More than one Elector was involved.” You are correct, as one elector in Georgia said that he was going to be a faithless voter, but resigned and was replaced. Maine split with 3 voting for Hillary and 1 voting for Trump. There were a number of voters in Texas who said that they were going to (thinking about) be faithless voters, but in the end voted as reflected by the popular vote.

          8. AKLady says

            She won the popular vote.
            Had the Ejectors complies with their oaths, she would be President.
            Your point is exactly what?

          9. usmcltc says

            My point? YOU mentioned that Trumps approval rating was the lowest of any President in 100 years. I ask if the people who came up with this rating were the same people who came up with the projection that Hillary had a 90% chance of winning on the morning of the election. Simple with a “yes” or “no” answer being appropriate.
            The, YOU come up with this “She won the popular vote”. Yes, she got 3 million more popular votes than Trump. But, she got 4 million more votes than Trump in California and New York combined. There is the 3 million votes you liberals are so proud of. Without these two states, Trump would have had 1 million more popular votes than Hillary. You failed to mention that only three electors changed their votes.
            I am surprised that you would even bring up the “popular vote”, since you enjoy reminding everybody that WE do NOT elect the president. I think that you should read your own comments before preaching about how many popular votes Hillary got. Oh, and by the way, Hillary LOST the election.

      2. roger dodger says

        Low life lying liberal dem bloodsucking parasite

        1. says


          1. roger dodger says

            Wipe your mouth liberal dem bloodsucker you still have brown on both corners

          2. AKLady says

            Yes, but you have it all over your face and dripping down the front of your shirt.

          3. AKLady says

            I know you are dishonest.
            The whole world know it already.
            You do not need to keep proving it.

          4. Bill says

            Who talks like a sewer?

          5. roger dodger says

            How can you tell low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scrub?
            Your eyes are covered in it, you can’t see hear or say anything that doesn’t smell like it/.

          6. AKLady says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          7. roger dodger says

            Get your grandkids over. dyslexic low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical scumbag and have them cut and paste some new material for you.

            You have been cutting and pasting that pos for 7 years.

          8. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?

            Why do you embarrass America this way?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          9. roger dodger says

            Did Obama do that to your alleged brain, dyslexic low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical cretin?
            You have been cutting and pasting that one for at least 7 years, too,

            have you thought about suicide?
            If done expeditiously, maybe you could effect it before your family finds out that, they are related to you, no point in hanging that cross on them.

          10. AKLady says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

        2. ABO says

          Why are you being so charitable toward the infamous. lying sack of s**t that calls itself gotabgood, roger???

          1. roger dodger says

            I like to beat on the cretin, I want him to keep coming back.

        1. gotabgood says

          Your first 100 days.. you got nothing you wanted

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            scjustice you liberal pathetic ignorant liberal….
            How does it feel loser you Lost the election ha ha ha ha You idiot
            You liberal pos you lost crooked lying Hillary yo momma…

          2. AKLady says

            Hillary won the people’s vote.
            Trump bought the Electoral College.

          3. gotabgood says

            With rubles

          4. AKLady says

            Suggest you look at Trump 7th bankruptcy.

          5. gotabgood says

            Donald Trump Was Bailed Out of Bankruptcy by Russia Crime Bosses
            Trump is owned by Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Thank You for that!!

          6. AKLady says

            You are welcome

          7. GODBlessRealAmerica! says


            Whos the President Idiot???

            PRESIDENT TRUMP not Crooked lying Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          8. AKLady says

            Plagiarism is stealing

          9. usmcltc says

            You bet Hillary won the popular vote – by 3 million votes. But, you fail to mention that Hillary got 4 million more votes than Trump when you combine California and New York. There is the “3 million votes” you are SO proud of.

            If it was up to you liberals, the people in California and New York would elect the president. Is THAT what YOU want?

          10. AKLady says

            The people of those states have the same right to vote that you do.
            They should have an equal voice in their government.

          11. usmcltc says

            You are right that they have an “equal” right to vote, but they do not have a right to determine who runs the government based on their numbers alone. You of all people should know that today the minority rules at the expense of the majority thanks to liberals.
            Again, I have to ask if you want the people of two states to be able to elect the president? Reminder: California and New York combined – 3 million MORE popular votes for Hillary than Trump. Is THAT what you want?

          12. AKLady says

            A state’s representation in Congress is determined by population size.
            A state’s number of Electors is based on it’s number in Congress.
            Hence, the Electoral College is determined by population size.
            Popular vote or Electoral College — the percentages are the same.

          13. usmcltc says

            “Popular vote or Electoral College — the percentages are the same”. Not true!
            With the popular vote, each percentage represents the number of people who voted for each candidate, while in the Electoral College, the percentage is 100% for that state, with a few exceptions that really don’t make a difference.
            The only reason that we are having this conversation is because Hillary lost the election and got 3 million more popular votes than Trump. I am surprised because you have said MANY times that we, the people, do NOT, and never have, elected the president, normally followed with a suggestion to “educate yourself”.

          14. AKLady says

            Simply stated, the popular vote is meaningless.
            Voter suppression was rampant
            Russia hacked the system.
            Interesting fact: Not one Democrat won an election without ha

          15. usmcltc says

            Simply stated, the popular vote is meaningless. If that is true, how do we determine Electoral votes?

            Voter suppression was rampant. This has been used as an excuse for Hillary losing the election, but I have not seen anything about this on the news. If is was supportable, I would thing that Hillary’s people and the liberal news outlets would be yelling this from the roof tops.

            Voter suppression was rampant. As recently, one of the Democrat members on the committee said that she had not seen any evidence liking the Trump people to Russia.

            Interesting fact: Not one Democrat won an election without ha. What?

          16. AKLady says

            Electors are selected by the political party.
            I’ve experienced posting issues all day,
            Obviously a ISP issue.
            In re: posts: My connection is cable, however the ISP’s connection to the outside world is not. With Russia parked at our side door, I suspect communication is a bit heavy. Yours ISP may have multiple alternate connections, ours does not.
            No connection of Trump people to Russia??? Just what do you call Steve Bannon? Trump’s son-in-law met with Russians over the sanctions. Erik Prince met with the Russians just before Trump’s inauguration. Carter Page met with Russians …

          17. usmcltc says

            No problem, as I understand about the connections.
            What you say is correct about people meeting with the Russians, but how does this prove that the Russians tried to influence the outcome of the election, as the committee is investigating?

          18. AKLady says

            Russia hacked the U.S. Presidential election.
            Arizona has detected malware in their online voter registration system.
            Apparently, Russia has also hacked the French Presidential election.
            There is also hacking evidence in Germany.

            Apparently, the long sci-fi forecasted ,cyber wars have begun for real.

          19. usmcltc says

            Yes, and the Obama administration hacked Germany’s president’s phone. So? Do you really think that we are NOT trying to get into other countries systems? Don’t be naïve.

          20. AKLady says

            The investigation was closed due to lack of evidence.
            Please remember that mobile phones are radio equipment.

          21. usmcltc says

            No evidence!? You can’t make stuff like this up. In 2013 it was revealed that Obama gave approval – for years – for our intelligence agencies to intercept the phone calls of Angela Merkel and other high ranking german (sic) officials. But when all is said and done, we need to remember that Obama has a history of wiretapping people, and lying about it.

          22. AKLady says

            You were military.
            You claim to have been an officer.
            Have you been in a coma for the past 50 or more years?

            Anyone with an ounce of common sense understands that cell phones are nothing but personal radio transmitters/receivers. Why would you think anything you had to say was confidential?

            Your cell phone conversation is not private. It probably never has been. GSM calls (and data traffic) are not always encrypted.

          23. usmcltc says

            I was just kidding, as I use “usmcltc”, because it looks neat. Get real! Sometimes I think that I HAVE been in a coma for the last 50 years, considering how things have changed for the worse during that time.

            So, you are saying that, since cell phone conversations are not private, it is okay for Obama to approve our intelligence agencies to intercept the phone calls of Angela Merkel and other high ranking German officials? Did I get that right?

          24. AKLady says

            Your cell telephone conversation is a radio transmission.
            Not all cell companies encrypt the data transmission.
            Anyone with a radio receiver that can be tuned to your phone’s wavelength can listen to your conversation.
            Oh is more than OK, it is very legal as well.
            Unless the carrier encrypts, you have no expectation of privacy.

          25. AKLady says

            They are citizens.
            They have every right to vote.
            They have every right to have their vote count.
            Some electors voted for Faith Spotted Eagle.
            Some voted for Collin Power
            Others voted for Ron Paul.
            Why don’t you tell me how that represented the
            American citizen’s best interests?

          26. usmcltc says

            I can’t answer your question, as you will have to ask for them. On the other hand, how did voting for Hillary represent the American citizen’s best interest?

          27. AKLady says

            There are Russian bombers off the coast of Alaska.
            They are now being accompanied by fighters.
            This is a first since the Reagan Administration.
            Trump is well on his way to destroying America.
            He has already awakened two old enemies.

            Why don’t you tell me ow electing Trump served America’s best interest.

          28. usmcltc says

            First, if what the liberals say, we are closer to Russia now than we ever were when Obama was president, as Obama had no desire to make Russia an ally.
            Second, Trump has turned China into a ally opposed to North Korea which is a first in a long time.
            It would be nice to have both Russia and China as allies rather than enemies, like the liberals apparently want.
            I don’t know if electing Trump was in America’s best interest, but I do know that electing Hillary would further Obama’s liberal agenda. An agenda that cost the Democrats control of both the House and Senate AND the presidency. THAT change WAS in America’s best interest.

          29. AKLady says

            Do you at the country of origin tags you buy?

            Trump is the party that as restarted the Cold War.

            I could care less about the labels. They are meaningless. People on boards like this one have turned them into insults.

            I want to throw up every time I read the words “Obama’s liberal agenda”.
            Congress makes the laws — period, end of story.
            If not tearing families apart is liberal — so be it. It is Christian behavior.
            Bush ended the Iraq War, not Obama.

          30. usmcltc says

            Do you at the country of origin tags you buy? What??

            Trump is the party that as restarted the Cold War. I thought the liberals said that Trump was tight with Russia and Trump has managed to get China to side with up against North Korea. Where is this “cold war” rhetoric coming from?

            “Obama’s liberal agenda”. Would you rather we call his actions and words, “Obama’s conservative agenda”, or “Obama’s socialist agenda”, or “Obama’s ——— agenda”. You fill in the blank, as I am sure you will agree that Obama, like all presidents, did have an “agenda”.

            “Congress makes the laws — period, end of story.” You are right; however, Obama found a way to temporally get around the law with his executive orders, just like Trump is doing now. End of story? I think not, as it is just beginning.

            “If not tearing families apart is liberal — so be it. It is Christian behavior.” I have to laugh when liberals keep using this old worn out excuse to justify illegal violating our immigration laws. Flash: It did not bother illegals to “tear families apart” (mother and kids left behind) when the father left his family in Mexico and enter the U.S. illegally. Or, it did not bother the illegals when the mother and her kids (father left behind) left central America and entered the U.S. illegally. If you believe breaking our immigration laws is Christian behavior, you are not my kind of Christian.
            If you would do some research, you would find that the ISSI were not even considered a threat when Obama took office. But now, ISSI is considered to be THE threat due to Obama’s lack of action. Why, he would not even allow them to be called “Muslim extremists” or Muslim terrorists”.

          31. AKLady says

            Trump was tight with Russia — right up to the Korean games he is playing,
            China has always assisted in controlling N. Korea. They do not want a war n their border, especially not one that involves nuclear weapons.

            Trump’s history of racial bigotry speaks for itself — over 200 cases involving his 2,000 rental units in NYC.. His disrespect for women is legendary. His disrespect for the law spans decades.

            The majority of illegals entered the U.S. quote legally. They brought families with them. The majority work in highly technical fields. They are well-educated. The right-wing has received an excellent brainwashing. The “Big Lie” worked well in Germany. It is working well here.

            “Christian” is right-wing propaganda. They pull it out of the hat every chance they get.

            Executive orders? Try Constitutional authority to grant reprieves and pardons.

          32. usmcltc says

            The majority of illegals entered the U.S. quote legally. They brought families with them. The majority work in highly technical fields. They are well-educated. And, we don’t even try to catch them and deport them. That is part of Obama’s liberal agenda. Allow them to come to the U.S. legally and then ignore the fact that they overstay their visas. Liberal logic to enforce only the laws you “like”?

          33. AKLady says

            Before visa stays can be enforced, there must be some type of records kept.
            There has been more than $800 million spent on FAILED entry/exit programs since 2001. There is no such program yet in existence.
            The American public is not really too cooperative when it comes to programs that require them to be fingerprinted in order to travel. Think about the traffic jambs at the exit points to Canada or Mexico if everyone had to stop and get their fingerprints taken.

            I guess America could fix that problem, just insert an identity chip at birth. How about it? Are you up for that? I’m not real happy about having to pay to renew my passport should I decide t drive home. Canada will let me in with two pieces of identification. Except for a few places in Alaska, you need a passport to enter the U.S.

            Your liberal insult was unworthy of you. Obviously, you have no ideas as to the traffic that crosses our borders on the hourly basis, let alone daily, weekly…

          34. usmcltc says

            We do not have a way to track people entering our country on visas because the politicians DO NOT want a way to track them. If they WANTED such a system, we would have one.
            Why do you try to deflect the problem by referencing the Canadian border. That is NOT the problem! The primary problem is with the southern border and people overstaying their visas. The chip is not a bad idea, but OUR citizens are NOT the problem. The primary problem is non-citizens entering our country illegally.
            I do not understand why you take my question, “Liberal logic to enforce only the laws you “like?” Obama (liberal) and Holder and Lynch (both liberals) have NOT enforced our immigration laws. Obama (liberal) has condoned sanctuary cities where illegal immigrants are protected and those illegals are not turned over to ICE. Since when is asking a question an insult?

          35. AKLady says

            Actually, the major problem is people overstaying visas — mostly employment visas.

            As long as your focus is kept on the Southern border, employers will keep getting away with bringing in foreign workers. Those employees work for less pay. They overstay their visas.

            Oh, and speaking of borders… what about the dependent nations within our country who’s lands cross what is “considered” America’s borders?

            Oh, yea, it s those damn Indians causing problems again. Just another minority that thinks it should have social treatment … (Yes, sarcasm).

          36. usmcltc says

            Yes, these foreigners who come to the U.S. on visas, take jobs that could be held by citizens and legal immigrants. The people who enter our country illegally through our southern border normally do not speak English, have limited education and are NOT tested for diseases. What can they contribute to our society, except to mow our lawns and change sheets in a hotel?
            Again what does your reference to the native Americans have to do with anything? Are you trying to “deflect” which was one of Hillary’s favorite actions.

          37. AKLady says

            What do they contribute?
            They spend over $11 billion a year in our economy.
            They pay the same state and local taxes that you do —
            every time they buy something.
            Again, the majority of illegals do not come in over our Southern border.
            However, they make a very good smoke screen to keep you fro, looking at the computer programmer, etc., etc.

          38. AKLady says

            99% of merchandise at placed like Target and Wal-Mart come from China.

          39. usmcltc says

            So? People are obviously buying this merchandise, as there two stores appear to be doing well. On the other hand, if these products were made in the U.S. with union labor, what price would we have to pay above what we pay now?

          40. AKLady says

            You made my point and totally missed it at the same time.
            Think about it awhile longer.
            What may/will happen if Mister foot-in-the-mouth Trump alienates China?
            You are the U.S. outsources military equipment to foreign manufacturers, aren’t you?

          41. AKLady says

            Ending war — liberal agenda — fine with me.
            I have two children on active duty in Afghanistan.
            I think Obama did not do enough “liberal” things to end that war.
            American should not have been in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
            Not splitting families — the Christian thing to do — fine with me.
            Yet the right-wing claims America is a Christian nation.
            Not building a wall — fine with me.
            Walls keep people in, as well as out.
            With Heir Trump in office, there will be a time when Americans are very happy that wall does not exist.
            There is only one thing better than the ACA. That is national health care. Let’s see how quickly America can go back to letting people die because they cannot afford to buy health care. In that respect, the United States treated its people worse than some third-world countries.
            What, exactly, id Obama’s agenda???
            I hear those words over, and over without a single specific ever given.
            You need to make you whine more specific. A lot more specific.
            As of now. you arw simply blowing hot air.

          42. usmcltc says

            When you write or speak with your two children serving in Afghanistan, tell them that I appreciate their service, and I pray for God to watch over them and bring them home safely.

            American should not have been in either Iraq or Afghanistan. I could not agree more!

            “Not splitting families — the Christian thing to do — fine with me.” Splitting family in relation to illegal immigration is NOT a religious thing, as it is a LEGAL thing. If immigrants would abide by our immigration laws, they would NOT have to “split families”. But, it did not bother these illegals when the father left his family in his home country and entered the U.S. legally. Or, when the mother and her kids left their husband and father in their home country and entered the U.S.. Or, it did not bother the immigrant who left his/her family in his/her home country and overstayed their visa. There is a right was and a wrong way to do everything, and the liberals want to reward those who enter the U.S. illegally.

          43. AKLady says

            Many of the people being deported have been contributing member of society for decades. The majority of illegals are not people who have crossed our Southern border. The majority are highly educated and work in technical fields. Factually, they are workers brought to the U.S. on employment visas. People who failed to leave the country to renew their visas.

            It did not bother the employer when they failed to leave the country to renew their visas. Your focus solely on one side of the problem, If you want to end illegal immigration, prosecute the employers. If you want to end the problem, improve our system. The immigrant is listed on the way in and that is the total of government involvement. They are not traced in any way. They are free to roam where they desire. There id no record made when they leave the country.

            You have a narrow vision, a very narrow one. Illegal immigration will not end because Heir Trump outs up a wall. The wall already exists– miles and miles of double fencing, just like that which divided Berlin. A fenced corridor patrolled by men with guns and dogs.

            Don’t play the liberal-conservative game. It is simply rude and insulting.

          44. usmcltc says

            The majority of illegals are not people who have crossed our Southern border. The majority are highly educated and work in technical fields. You are talking about those immigrants who overstayed their visas in violation of our immigration laws. That is the difference between our positions. You think that because they were brought here to perform a job, they should be allowed to overstay their visas without repercussions. On the other hand, I question If they should be brought here in the first place and should leave when their visas expire. Bringing in immigrants into the U.S. to do jobs that could be done by citizens and legal immigrants is an indictment of our education system. THAT needs to be addressed.
            However, liberals love to say that illegals perform the menial jobs that “we” do not what to do. Another excuse to let illegals remain in the U.S..There people did NOT enter the U.S. on a visa, but rather snuck into our country undetected. And, liberals want to give these people “a path” to citizenship. Ridiculous! What did they do to earn citizenship?

            If you want to end the (immigration) problem, improve our system. The problem is past presidents and especially Obama and Holder and Lynch, as Attorney Generals, do not want to enforce the immigration Act of 1986 which:

            required employers to attest to their employees’ immigration status;

            made it illegal to hire or recruit illegal immigrants knowingly;
            The “immigration law” is NOT the problem, while NOT enforcing the current “immigration law” IS the problem.

          45. AKLady says

            They add $11 Billion to America’s economy every year.
            The buy food, clothing and shelter.
            They pay federal, state and local taxes
            Oh, and you might want to consider that there are what is called “dependent nations” within our borders. In fact, several of those nations happen to span out borders with Canada and Mexico.

            The citizens of those nations were not granted American citizenship until 1924.

          46. usmcltc says

            They add $11 Billion to America’s economy every year.
            The buy food, clothing and shelter.
            They pay federal, state and local taxes
            They have anchor babies who are citizens.
            They are members of gangs
            They commit crmes
            They are here ILLEGALLY
            What is it that you liberals don’t understand about ILLEGAL?
            What does your reference to native Americans have to do with anything? I am confused, which is nothing new for me.

          47. AKLady says

            1. Federally recognized tribes are sovereign nations which exit within our borders,
            2. They are classified as “dependent nations”.
            3. There are places where those “sovereign” nations lay across the U.S. borders in both the north and the south, they also cross state lines.

            Now, tell me how do you classify a citizen of a First People Nation as an illegal when they cross the border that “technically” divides their nation?

            Oh, and you have been very well brainwashed. America has more prisons than all the other modern, industrialized nations – including China and Russia. They are not filled with illegal immigrants, far from it.
            Factually, the last thing an illegal immigrant wants is contact with law enforcement.

            On the other hand, we have slums filled with impoverished people. Overcrowded areas with poor services, bad schools, and high poverty. Such circumstances have always generated high crime rates — that is a historic fact. A fact which occurs no matter what the race or nationality of the people confined in the area happens to be,

          48. usmcltc says

            Why did you get on the native American kick when they have nothing to do with our “illegal immigration” problem?

            “They are not filled with illegal immigrants, far from it.”

            Newsmax – 05/02/2017

            “More than 90 percent of inmates held in federal prisons are illegal immigrants, according to data released by the Department of Justice on Tuesday.
            The data:
            45,500 federal prisoners are foreign born.
            41,550 of those are in the U.S. illegally.
            The amount of foreign-born prisoners overall represents 24 percent of the federal prison population, according to the data.”

            And liberals want these 41,550 illegal immigrant criminals to be able to remain in the U.S.. I think that we have identified the problem – liberals.

            “Factually, the last thing an illegal immigrant wants is contact with law enforcement.” Wait a minute, your comment flies in the face of what people in sanctuary cities are saying. They say, if they turn over illegals to ICE, those illegals will not contact or cooperate with the police. See the problem, as you say illegal immigrants DO NOT want to contract the police, so there is NO need for sanctuary cities, right?

          49. AKLady says

            Repeat a lie often enough …

            “More than 90 percent of inmates held in federal prisons are illegal” ..

            represents 24 percent of the federal prison population, according to the data.”

            Either or, it cannot be both.

          50. usmcltc says

            That would be 90% of immigrants held in federal prisons are illegal which represents 24 % of the total federal prison population. Sorry for the confusion.

          51. AKLady says

            The rate for Christians is higher.

          52. usmcltc says

            Why do you add religion into the mix when that has nothing to do with the illegal immigration problem? I fear that you are losing it.

          53. AKLady says

            It is called objectifying.
            That is what you are doing.
            Factually, the majority of those illegals are Christians, probably Catholic.

          54. AKLady says

            Thank you, I’ll do that, I am sure they will like that. They are both doctors. Took after their mother.. The boy is an orthodoxp He wants to specialize in reconstruction. After Afghanistan he will probably head to San Antonioni

          55. usmcltc says

            There is only one thing better than the ACA. That is national health care. Do you mean like the care we give our vets through the VA? Good luck with that one.

            Let’s see how quickly America can go back to letting people die because they cannot afford to buy health care. Flash: Many people are losing their coverage because insurance companies are leaving Obamacare. In addition, many people can NOT afford their insurance premiums. To make it worse, many people can not use their healthcare insurance, because they can not afford the deductibles and coinsurance.
            Obama’s liberal agenda?
            Foster more divide between the races. “If I had a son…”, failure to try (condone) riots, demonstrations, burning and looting buildings, burning cars, confronting authority, NOT supporting our police.
            Overloading our social structure. Allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S. without fear of deportation, providing social services to illegal immigrants, providing free healthcare and schooling to children of illegals not born in the U.S.. and condoning sanctuary cities which protect illegal immigrants from ICE.
            Most importantly, pushing anything that is supported by the liberal masses.
            Talk about whining. Just how has the Russians bombers, even when accompanied by fighters, flying off of the coast of Alaska hurt you? I think that I have heard this before, “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!”. How do you sleep at night.

          56. AKLady says

            The VA healthcare system is one of the most corrupt agencies in our government. I personally witnessed a VA Hospital director steal from patients. He spent million to redecorate his office, while patients needed new gowns and slippers, etc., etc. I watched the VA agencies pass money round and round among them to skirt the September 30th use-it- or-lose it deadline.

            There are only two “services” provided to illegals. One is minimal, emergency health care. That is an issue of national defense. Epidemics spread rapidly and they kill many people. Don’t start with the so-called immigrants as disease vectors. Most of them have better vaccination record than the major of today’s school children. Vaccinations is one of the first things the charities working in Mexico and S. America provide,

            The U.S. cannot afford to deport illegals. They pay over $11 billion in taxes every year. They pay the very same taxes you do. However, unlike you, the majority cannot obtain federal tax refunds.

            How have those bombers hurt me. How close do you live to an Air Force Base? How much noise do fighters make taking off? Should they decide to bomb Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, I am basically in the drop zone, as is all of Anchorage.

            The Russians are not coming, they are here. They are playing chicken with our pilots just 200 miles off the coast of Alaska. They endanger civilian air traffic simply by their location. They are supersonic aircraft.

            Try to remember there is only one highway from Canada to Anchorage. It is two-lane except for about 70 miles outside of Anchorage. Food, clothing, shelter all comes across that highway, by air, or by water.

          57. usmcltc says

            Yes, the VA has been a disaster for years and our politicians have done NOTHING to correct it until recently,

            Again you miss the point. Illegals should not be here in the first place to prove that they have a good vaccination program in Mexico.

            The U.S. cannot afford to deport illegals. They pay over $11 billion in taxes every year. According you your logic, we should encourage millions of illegal immigrants to come to the U.S. so they can contribute to OUR tax structure. Flash: Illegal immigrants CAN get refunds. IRS Commissioner John Koskinen confirmed Tuesday that illegal immigrants granted amnesty from deportation under President Obama’s new policies would be able to get extra refunds from the IRS for money they earned while working illegally, as long as they filed returns during those years.

            I live 20 miles from Nellis AFB, no problem. I don’t know for sure, but I suspect that Las Vegas is a more lucrative than Anchorage. If what you say is correct, I would get out of Anchorage NOW.

          58. AKLady says

            Flash: Before an illegal can file a tax return, they must have a TIN. To obtain a TIN, they must register with the government,

            Anchorage has always been #1 on Russia’s list. Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson was/is past of the DEW Line.

            Next time, I suggest that you read what I write more carefully. Majority is not all. Also I did not say they came to prove Mexico has a belter vaccination program. Interestingly, if you check the actual records, you would see that illegal immigration decreased under Obama.

            You live 20 miles from Nellis. I live less than ten miles from Elmendorf-Richardson. However, it is over a 50 mile drive.

          59. usmcltc says

            Flash: Before an illegal can file a tax return, they must have a TIN. To obtain a TIN, they must register with the government. Thank you for making my point that liberals enforce on the laws that they like. So, illegals have to get a TIN and register with the government. Are they then deported? No, they are sent on their way with Obama’s and the liberal’s blessing.

            Legal immigrants are required to have medical screening to ensure that they do not bring any contagious diseases into the United States. Illegal aliens are not screened and many are carrying horrific third world diseases that do not belong in the USA. Many of these diseases are highly contagious and will infect citizens that come in contact with an infected illegal alien. This has already happened in restaurants, schools, and police forces.

            Interestingly, if you check the actual records, you would see that illegal immigration decreased under Obama. If you do a little research, you would find that some 2.5 million illegal immigrants have flowed into the United States under President Obama, with 790,000 rushing in since 2013, according to a new analysis. Calculations from the Center for Migration Studies and the Pew Research Center indicate 1.5 to 1.7 million aliens joined the illegal population from 2009 to 2013 — either overstaying a temporary visa or sneaking into the country, according to a Center for Immigration Studies

          60. AKLady says

            To file a tax return, you had to get a TIN and register with the federal government. In your case, the Tax Identification Number is a Social Security Number.

            Drop the liberal/Obama garbage. You want illegals deported, you are going to have to cough up thw tax money to do it. Simple as that. The Constitution, with very limited exception, covers everyone within our borders — legally or otherwise.

            Had you bothered to look a bit further into uour “research” you woulkd know that over half of the illegals in the U.S. arrived legally with temporary, non-immigrant visas. There are 42 million immigrants in the U.S. They are 13% of our population.. Less than 10 million are undocumented.

            Of the undocumented immigrants, 48% of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. are from Asia, Central America, sub-Saharan Africa, and places other than Mexico. Six states accounted for 59% of undocumented immigrants in 2014: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois.

            Of the undocumented immigrants who have been in the country 10 years, 52% have at least a high school diploma and 15% have a bachelor’s degree or higher. Of those 45% were homeowners

            According to a 2009 Pew Research Center’s Hispanic Trends Project study of undocumented immigrants, 52% have at least a high school diploma and 15% have a bachelor’s degree or higher.
            in 2008.

          61. usmcltc says

            The liberal/Obama “garbage” include providing a “path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants. I firmly believe that people who violate our immigration laws by overstaying their visas or successfully sneaking across our borders undetected should be REWARDED with a chance to be a U.S. citizen. This position is nothing more that a slap in the fact of those immigrants who waited years to come to the U.S. and become citizens.

            YES, illegal immigrants SHOULD be deported and given a chance to enter our country LEGALLY.

            Cough up the tax money? When did spending federal funds ever concern liberals when it came time to do what THEY wanted? Wonder why the Democrat party is called the “tax and spend” party.

            “The Constitution, with very limited exception, covers everyone within our borders — legally or otherwise. Our forefathers did not even have an concept of the illegal immigration problem we have today, so the Constitution was NOT written with illegal immigrants in mind. Illegal immigrants DO NOT have the same protection and rights as citizens, as if they did, there would be no purpose for them to try and become citizens.

          62. AKLady says

            In 1776 your “forefathers” were the illegal immigrants.
            I suggest you do a bit of research into the Nations that existed.
            Maybe start with the Iroquois

          63. usmcltc says

            I have to laugh whenever I see a liberal try to justify the current illegal immigration situation with, “In 1776 your “forefathers” were the illegal immigrants.” Come on, in 1776, our forefathers had NO concept of illegal immigration and that group of people did not exist. To try to place our “forefathers” in a group (illegal immigrants) that only exist today is ridiculous.
            You keep referencing native Americans who have nothing to do with our illegal immigration problem today. Why?

          64. AKLady says

            My mother’s ancestors owned the land the Europeans stole.
            My mother’s ancestors were part of the Nation the Europeans invaded.
            I do not laugh when faced with “conservative” ignorance.
            Those “illegals” are decedents of First People.
            Maybe you should look further into First People Sovereign Nations, especially those which cross the borders you demand be recognized. Those Nations were not part of the US, nor were their people citizens, until 1924.

          65. usmcltc says

            So, what does all of this have to do with our current illegal immigration problem? You have lost me!

            Just WHY would I want to look further into First People Sovereign Nations when I am NOT the least bit interested.
            An ignorant conservative.

          66. AKLady says

            The sovereignty of those nations is legally recognized by the
            U.S. Government. Their members have dual citizenship.
            Those nations span our Northern and Southern borders,
            You seem to think their right to travel freely within their nation should be denied. You seem to think those traveling within those nations are illegals.
            As a result of the games being played, First People Nations have had to go to the expense of developing special identification cards and passports.

            Frankly, I wish they could demand the same from the people like you.
            I’d love to see the huge traffic jambs on the highways that flow through those nations that people like us can enter and leave at will.

          67. usmcltc says

            I give up! I am NOT going to respond to any more BS about First People, AS IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CURRENT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM. Period! Get it!?

          68. AKLady says

            They are over 1/3 of the so-called illegals crossing the border.

          69. usmcltc says

            I think you have beaten the “over stayed their visas” rhetoric to death. “Less than 10 million are undocumented.” First, they are NOT “undocumented”, as liberals like to ignore the fact that they are illegals, NOT undocumented. You 10 million figure appears to be a little short. The Pew Research Center found that there were about 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. in 2015, and that the number of Mexican illegal immigrants make up about 51% of the total illegal immigration population. Newsmax – 04/25/20174.
            All of your comments are intended to justify allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S., which is sad, since they have NO right to be here in the first place. Why do you condone illegal immigrants breaking our laws and do not stress entering our country legally. There is a right way to do things and a wrong way. YOU support the wrong way, while I support the right way. It is as simple as that.

          70. AKLady says

            I support the First People’s right to travel within their Nation without interference. They have every right to do so, regardless of the
            U.S. Government’s artificial boundary line running through those SOVEREIGN nations.
            If you want to fix the problem, stop buying foreign goods.
            If you want to fix the problem, do not patronize businesses that bring in foreign workers.

            Oh, and be prepared to not afford as much food, as you see a huge number of illegals work in agriculture.
            Support illegal immigration — no, I just live in reality.
            I don’t want to live in a reincarnation of the Berlin Wall, especially since it will do almost nothing to correct the issue.

          71. usmcltc says

            Again, “First People” have nothing to do with our current illegal immigrant problem, as they are citizens.

            “stop buying foreign goods”. I agree, but the problem is I can not find what I want because it is not manufactured in the U.S. thanks to the unions and their ever increasing demands.

            “do not patronize businesses that bring in foreign workers” I agree; however, wanted to increase the number of foreign worker being brought in with H-1Bs. Trump is trying to reduce that number. If the Immigration Act of 1986 was enforced, we may not have this problem of employers hiring illegal immigrants.

            Why do liberals continue to say that it takes “illegal immigrants” to work in agriculture? Are you saying that LEGAL immigrants will not work in agriculture? By the way, the Immigration Act of 1986 “legalized certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants”, but that has been ignored I guess.

            Support illegal immigration — no, I just live in reality. According to you, you have to support illegal immigration to “live in reality”. Anyway you cut it, you support enforcing laws that liberals like and ignore those laws that liberals do not like. That is apparent from your comments.
            Berlin Wall was a wall to keep people IN and the proposed border along our southern border is to keep people OUT. Big difference, but nice try anyway.

          72. AKLady says

            Wrong, yet again.
            First people, who are members of federally recognized tribes, hold dual citizenship. Their tribal lands are sovereign nations. Those sovereign nations, recognized by the U.S., Mexico and Canada, cross the “artificial line” that passes through their land.
            Frankly, I don’t see any Americans lined up to take the majority of jobs held by immigrants. When I was an adolescent, even through teens, I used to work picking produce to earn spending money. One of my favorites was picking Concord Grapes for Welches. It is a wonder I did not get fired for eating too many.
            oh, and by the way, grape production is a year-round project. The vines must be trained. New growth must be limited. It actually requires quote s bit of knowledge and experience to obtain a good harvest.
            I don’t see too many Americans lined up for those jobs anymore. Do you?
            Americans will sit on their tails, drawing unemployment, before they stoop that low. Only farmers and immigrants work in the fields these days.
            Oh, that “seasonal” runs 24/7/365. There is farm production the entire year. The agriculture workers follow it across the U.S. Those workers marry, have children and stay in the U.S. They didn’t need a visa
            I get the distinct impression that you have never lived in an area where immigrant labor was the line between minimal profit and bankruptcy. I guess you missed the part about food rotting in the fields. I saw the prices jump in the Lower 48. Still lower than here in Alaska but out pay is also higher.
            Reality is that food prices would go sky high if “immigration” was strictly enforced on the terms that Trump is demanding. Many of the illegals could not obtain a visa if they tried. Many, if not most, cannot prove their identity. They don’t have birth certificates.
            The Berlin Wall was designed to keep people out — residents of the Communist sector.

          73. usmcltc says

            Okay, okay, enough with irrelevant “First People” BS. I agree with everything that you say about them, but it does not have anything to do with the Illegal immigrant problem we have today.

            Frankly, I don’t see any Americans lined up to take the majority of jobs held by immigrants. You are right, because illegals will work for peanuts, mostly off the books. They drive wages down to where normal citizens can’t live off of these wages, and you obviously condone this. Even the ones brought into the U.S. on visas work for less than is normally paid for the work they are doing.

            You make some good points, but I do not agree with you that farm labors should be illegal immigrants. Or, that food prices are low ONLY because of illegal farm workers. If the conditions contained in the Immigration Law of 1986 was enforced, most of this problem would go away.

            The Berlin Wall was designed to keep people out — residents of the Communist sector. Where do you get these warmed ideas? The Berlin Wall was built by the Communists of EAST Berlin to keep their people from leaving East Berlin and going to West Berlin.

        2. AKLady says

          Make America HATE again.
          And this web site documents it happening.

        3. AKLady says

          Make America HATE again.
          His plan is working.. He appointed one KKK member so far, which will be next?

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You Liberal Democrackhead racist thug ur an diot and a racist liberal get some white friends you Moron!!!!!!!!
            You lost idiot we rejected you and you racist lies!!!!!!!

          2. AKLady says

            Make America HATE again.
            His plan is working.. He appointed one KKK member so far, which will be next?
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          3. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You liberal Democrackhead racist idiot the only racist in America is liberalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          4. AKLady says

            00More art theft.
            Plagiarism is stealing.

      3. mac12sam12 says

        You’ll love the next 8 years!! 😀

        1. AKLady says

          I suspect Trump will be impeached.
          He has already violated the Constitution 28 times.

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            TRUMP Will never be Impeach you Liberal idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            We defeated you Liberal pigs you lost 8 YEARS OF TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          2. AKLady says

            !! Plagiarism is stealing

      4. kbmiller says

        Gotta b GAY Go Away you A$$ f*ck ing LIAR. You’ve been caught in so many LIES already. You have absolutely NO credibility.

        1. AKLady says

          Childish insults … same old, same old.
          You have been caught lying, ovee and over, and over,

        2. ABO says

          gotabstupid has never had any credibility, kb, and has gone steadily downhill from there.

          1. kbmiller says

            ABO I agree, he’s a Low-Life, Lying Libturd.

          2. ABO says

            Hear you 5X3 kb, he certainly is that and more.

    2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

      That takes some real chutzpa doesn’t it especially from four crooked politicians.

      1. C6Vette says

        Welcome Home Brother! Yes they are a “Special Kind of Stupid” and we all know “You Can’t Fix Stupid”!

      2. Lizard says

        Obama head reminds me of burnt water melon , Just sayin

        1. Bill says

          Hey, watermelons have good stuff inside! They aren’t hollow!

          1. Vince says

            But 0bumer’s head is hollow.

          2. marshmil says

            …they are filled with watery mush…the same stuff Barack Obama has where humans have brains.

      3. silverbackV says

        As I remember, chutzpah is defined as a defendant charged with murdering his parents begging for leniency because he’s an orphan.

      4. k9maiden says

        BO wouldn’t gave won the 2nd term and the Dems knew it, that’s why the election was rigged, the only way he could win. Even many of those who voted for the “HOPE AND CHANGE” found out that BO’s version was Communism and Islam.

        1. AKLady says

          Hey stupid, did not happen, could not happen.
          We the People do not elect a President.
          We the People have never elected a President.
          We the People cannot elect a President — the Constitution does not permit it.
          Learn what the Electoral College is.
          Learn what the Electoral College does.
          Learn how your government actually works.
          STOP LYING.

          1. alegalcitizen says

            Well the way I see it is we vote, if there’s enough vote in our district, the electoral vote goes to the person with the most votes. See how easy that was?
            Then they add up all the districts to see who won the state, the state then goes to one of the candidates.
            The electoral college kept us from having the large cities elect a stooge, because all the large cities have lots of rioting liberals.

          2. AKLady says

            Except that is not what took place.
            Electors vted for Faith Spotted Eagle.
            Electrs voted for Collin Powell
            Electors voted for Ron Paul.

          3. k9maiden says

            Hey Stupid, I thought you were the one who preaches the Constitution, read up on the Electoral College and why the Founding Fathers had enough brains to know that a few highly populated areas in the country could elect the POTUS! While millions of Americans in other areas had no voice in the election of the POTUS. Read up on the Constitution you idiot, Article II, section one,
            Amendment XII, Amendment XXIII! Now, go take a look at them and educate yourself! We decide who wins the Presidential Election through the Electoral College, and thank God for our brilliant Founding Fathers who must have been able to look into the future and see just how a country can be taken over by illegal votes and cheating! STUPID!

          4. AKLady says

            Please seek out a mental health professional.
            Your paranoia has become clinical.

          5. ldyhawk549 says

            AKLady you are the one in need of seeking out mental health professionals; more classes in US Government as well. k9maiden is right about you when mentioning stupid.

          6. Greg Hernandez says

            You should not keep repeating advice given to YOU , Undeveloped insane Zygote.

          7. wired says

            Your truly wasting your time with the A K LADY because she thinks she is smarter than all of us and yet you can’t fix STUPID !

          8. marshmil says

            wired I think all of us realistic mature people have discovered the truth in what you’ve said. That person is convinced herself that she knows everything. Nobody else, even God, knows anything. She believes human’s wrote the Bible without supernatural guidance. She is committing the error that Lucifer committed which led to his downfall. Isaiah 14:13-14.
            And the atheists and agnostics will have a party laughing at that reference as well as this whole post. AKLady is the self-appointed monitor of thought, politics, opinions, viewpoints and all ad infinitum. She believes the Judea-Christian Bible was written by humans without any input from a “God” yet she quoted Leviticus recently as a source. I find it difficult to be aware that someone is that narrow-minded. Oh well. It takes all kinds.

          9. wired says

            Very well put sir but its more like the thickness of a razor blade as narrow minded goes .

          10. marshmil says

            That’s a good one wired. When I was a teen I overheard an older guy speaking about someone who he considered narrow minded. He said, “That person is so narrow minded if she fell on a pin it would punch both her eyes out”.

          11. ldyhawk549 says

            AKLady, except that IS how it took place and how it works. alegalcitizen is right. When a district votes a certain way, the electoral vote goes to the person with the most votes.

            Perhaps you should re-take those government classes again. This time pay attention rather than using the classes as sleep training.

            BTW, there weren’t electors voting for Colin (one L) Powell or Faith Spotted Eagle or Ron Paul. None of them ran for president for the 2016 elections.

          12. AKLady says
          13. marshmil says

            Idyhawk549 her Worshipful Candidate lost the Nov. 8 election because the US Constitution lays out the instructions on the process for electing a President. She’s directing her passive anger on all who support the US Citizen, successful businessperson who now occupies the Oval Office that finally after eight years of Muslim nothingness replaces the Crescent Office in the former White Mosque.

          14. Bill says

            A pinhead focused on technicalities. A republic is a buffered democracy. The will of the people is expressed and then translated into sound policy (theoretically, but not so much in reality in recent years) by elected intermediaries who supposedly have strong patriotism, realistic perspective, and leadership skills. Presidential elections work in a similar way, with the people’s votes put into a larger context of rules than simply having New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago make the pick for the whole nation. But to suggest that the people don’t elect the president is truly absurd. Wow.

          15. AKLady says

            Trump is all the proof required.
            We the People elected Hillary.

          16. Bill says

            According to your delusional rules, anything seems possible, except a strong and healthy America.

          17. AKLady says

            What rules might those be?
            Hillary won the popular vote.
            Russia hacked the election.

          18. Bill says

            Those would be the rules that ignore the US Constitution, and whatever else comes out of the magic pipe that you’ve been smoking.

          19. AKLady says

            As is your norm, not ne detail, not a single fact.

          20. Bill says

            Yeah, I always just grunt; never have much to say. Sheesh!

          21. AKLady says

            That is a fairly good summation.
            That you for admitting it.

          22. Bill says

            Keep smoking your magic pipe; it will keep you smart. Poor troll.

          23. marshmil says

            I continue to be impressed by the brilliance and forethought of our Founders. Democracy was born in Athens Greece. I’m curious as to why it took 2289 years for the concept of our kind of Constitution to catch on.

          24. Texascat says

            The Red Coats came and lost.

          25. marshmil says

            Yep Texascat. Now they are one of our allies–or had better be. It’s interesting we won the separation from the Britts then went back and protected them from Uncle Adolf about 150 years later. Best thing any nation can do is declare war on the USA and loose the fight.
            See the movie: THE MOUSE THAT ROARED for a comical takeoff on that idea.

          26. Texascat says

            I saw the Movie years ago.

          27. AKLady says

            America’s Founders were leftists.
            America’s Founders were rioters who destroyed property.
            The majority of the early population centers were governed under Christian Sharia Law.

          28. marshmil says

            Speaking of revisionist history. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
            I presume then that the Judea-Christian God of Abraham and of Jesus of Nazareth is actually Lucifer by your historical accounts. And the Founders were all “southpaws”. Please
            tell me the title of the publication about Christian Sharia Law.
            I want to read up on that. I might need to update my understanding of the writings of Peter, Paul and John. Looking forward to your enlightening me on this. Thanks.

          29. AKLady says

            Factually the majority of America’s Founders were not Christians. Most were Unitarians.
            Publication: The Holy Bible, The Ten Commandments …
            Also, the word “sharia” translates as “religious” law.

            Christian Sharia which has existed in the United States included:

            Business must close on Sunday.
            Abortion is a crime.
            Birth control is a crime.
            Punish sex outside of marriage.
            Imprison unwed mothers.
            Convict and imprison homosexuals.
            Sterilize unwed mothers against their will.
            Sterilize the mentally ill against their will.
            Sterilize the mentally challenged against their will.
            Prohibit inter-racial marriage.

            There is more, but this should wake up the younger folks who missed
            all that reality.

          30. marshmil says

            So, what’s your point?

          31. AKLady says

            You can grunt.
            I’ll pay attention to the Russian bombers playing chicken in my backyard.

          32. Greg Hernandez says

            Oh ands can you see them in your basement apartment in the looney bin Little zygote ?

          33. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          34. marshmil says

            If you live in California they are likely Condors. But then you use AK which puts you somewhat North of that area and maybe those buzzards don’t go up there.

          35. AKLady says

            American stealth F-22 Raptor fighter jets have intercepted Russian Tu-95 Bear bombers accompanied by fighters every day beginning May 3rd. These threats are the first of their kind since the Cold War ended under Reagan,

            Oh, and by the way, our main bird of prey is the Bald Eagle.

          36. marshmil says

            So? …what’s your point?

          37. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Better yet, why not go out in your backyard and have Sarah Palin called Putin to bomb the s— out of you! Pull a Kim-Jung-Un type of execution (rocket-fired and all that!).

          38. roger dodger says

            Still eating fire ants, cretin?

          39. AKLady says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          40. roger dodger says

            Liberal dem bloodsucker, sorry, you simply are not qualified to talk about the adult way.
            Get your grandkids over have them change your cut and paste, dsylexic cretin, you have used the same batch for 7 years.

          41. Greg Hernandez says

            Too bad YOU never got to the 2nd or 3rd Grade little Zygote.

          42. AKLady says

            Thank you for proving my point.
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down

          43. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Not when goaded by an a– hat like YOU! Fight fire with fire! You condescend to insult us – and WE’RE supposed to cry “Uncle” first? In your dreams, Dodo!!

          44. David in MA says

            and you forgot to take your med’s.

          45. Greg Hernandez says

            FACT ….. And you are a braindead Zygote.

          46. AKLady says

            .Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          47. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Actually, since she’s a dried up old hag – WAY past her :”prime” (if she ever had one!) – she gets her jollies by trolling conservative websites and posting repetitious and surprisingly condescending insults just to inspire our wrath – and, sadly, our responses! What fun is it for the sick mind of a loony leftist to post crap on leftist websites? No fun in that, eh, AK?

          48. AKLady says

            Facts are facts.
            Your not liking them changes nothing.

          49. glorybe2 says

            If that doesn’t take the cake. The right wing just voted to destroy health care for most Americans. They don’t want a healthy nation. What they really want is the non rich to be dead or missing.

          50. Bill says

            They took away freebies from people who want others to pay for their stuff? So sad. It’s only right to have everyone else pay for what you want, right?

          51. Texascat says

            Democrats are moochers.

          52. Bill says

            EXACTLY right. No feel at all for earning an honest living and taking care of your own responsibilities. Responsibility?! What’s that?

          53. marshmil says

            Texascat what else can we expect from socialists? They promote the idea to get votes in return.

          54. marshmil says

            I guess your next warped accusation is to blame the medical profession for deaths since doctors did not keep everyone alive. Why don’t you just take it all the way back and blame it on God saying if He had not created the universe we would not have these problems. You liberals gotta blame somebody!

          55. roger dodger says

            Who told you, that you were people, life forms like you are liberal dembloodsucking parasitical scum.

          56. AKLady says

            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          57. John says

            Are you paid to troll conservatives that voted Trump? If not, Soros I heard is paying people like you to troll discussion and comments on the net that are conservative in view. Through your litany of criticism, do you have anything at all positive to say of President Trump? A large percentage of the discussion here for the past weeks is your lone wolf critic and bullying and what you say are facts are just your opinions or one-sided slanted view of what you call facts.

          58. AKLady says

            The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
            No one forces you to read my posts.

          59. John says

            I don’t plan to give you more attention that you crave. You started to put your comments on my reply first. I won’t restate the obvious that others here see. But one day you have to open your eyes see how you dish it out.

          60. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.

            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          61. Greg Hernandez says

            There you go again little Zygote , Your are tedious , boring and repetitive.It just shows your lack of intelligence .Zygotes aren’t humans just a blob of protoplasm waiting to be aborted ,at least that is the belief of planned murderhood and sick proto-humans.who are searching for you….the zygote that got away.

          62. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          63. brenda coyne says

            I agree the Truth!!! about Time they start telling the Truth Bill Hillary Obama Nancy Poloucy, ,you two have something in common the lights are on but no ones home, We won Get over it

          64. marshmil says

            Perfect brenda! Thanks. Love it: “The lights are on but nobody’s home.” And they want taxpayers to pay the electric bill for them!

          65. AKLady says

            Is that supposed to be an insult?

          66. Joy Daniels Brower says

            You got Nancy’s name wrong: It’s NAZI PIGLOSI!!

          67. Greg Hernandez says

            Yup , the Zygote knows nothing of Truth , The Whole Truth and nothing but The Truth.

          68. AKLady says

            ..Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          69. marshmil says

            John Arkansas Lady (?) is a supporter of socialism/communism, feminism and likely hates members of the masculine gender, conservatives, people who believe that a God exists, particularly Christians, and traditional American values. If we keep those things in mind we can predict AKLady’s response to everything posted here and elsewhere. She/he/it is very predictable–uses the same lines over and over again. Nothing new. Just watch. 😀
            God watch over and Bless our great Nation. Shalom

          70. John says

            Totally agree. Yes and God Bless to you also. She/He/It apparently has more time on his/her/its hands than the rest of us that either has to work for a living or run our businesses and has family life to attend to.

          71. marshmil says

            Thanks John. You’re a great American.

          72. Texascat says

            What I can’t understand is why the asylum gave her a computer.

          73. Judy McKinney says

            I think the AK stands for Alaska, not Arkansas, which is AR.

          74. glorybe2 says

            Right wing types might not even know that Arkansas is not in Alaska.

          75. Joy Daniels Brower says

            How would YOU know? You’re deaf, dumb & blind!!

          76. marshmil says

            Thanks Judy. I stand corrected. Punched wrong key. No wonder that person comes across so cold! She/he/it needs to paddle across that cold pond and just enter Russia. I’m sure “Seward’s Icebox” would be happy to witness the exit.There might even be a warming trend but not associated with Al Gore’s sick hoax “Global Warming”.

          77. ldyhawk549 says

            AK stands for A$$ Kissing

          78. Texascat says

            I blocked AKook lady 3 months ago.

          79. marshmil says

            Best act you’ve ever done Texascat. Great show.

          80. Texascat says

            She needs to keep her electric shots appointments.The Sanitarium should take her computer away.

          81. marshmil says

            “Shock” therapy. The computer provides her with a means to feel important. We out here just use her posts as a form of entertainment.

          82. kbmiller says

            Me too. She’s like the dog $hit I stepped in, hard to get away from the stink.

          83. Texascat says

            She certainly babbles like a unhinged lunatic.

          84. glorybe2 says

            I have something positive to say about Trump. The mentally ill should be sheltered and kept out of public office. As a nut Trump deserves mental health care. Is that positive enough?

          85. marshmil says

            If that’s the best you can do with your hatred of America. Something’s better than nothing. Now go take your meds and go beddie bye.

          86. Joy Daniels Brower says

            And he has run a totally successful enterprise for nearly 40 years! You call that “mentally ill?!?” I’d say, looking at what he has temporarily left behind, running for POTUS might be a sign that a SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN is mentally unbalanced! Why jump into the snake pit of politics? Especially when one’s enemies are EVIL leftist trolls, idiots & ne’er-do-wells! And an assassin’s bullet is just waiting to be fired by those same EVIL commies!!

          87. roger dodger says

            Get your grandchildren in to do some more cutting and pasting for you, liberal dem bloodsucking, dyslexic cretin.
            You have been using the same cut and paste for 7 years, be brave, kill yourself, why subject your family to this?

          88. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.

            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          89. roger dodger says

            Geez, liberal dem bloodsucker, you still alive?
            Think of your family snaggle toothed old cretinous liberal dem bloodsucker>

          90. AKLady says

            Well, you just proved either English is not your first language or you are one of those red state dropouts.

          91. roger dodger says

            Confirmed, confirmed is the word you are looking for, low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasite.
            I confirmed that you are the typical liberal democrat, who is so stupid that everything that you post has to be a cut and paste becuse you are not capable of thinking.
            Be brave think of your family, kill yourself

          92. jreg9304 says

            Hey don’t leaches fit in her catagory? LOL How about lamprey and moray eels??

          93. ldyhawk549 says

            Lamprey & morey eels have more intelligence than AK(non)Lady

          94. k9maiden says

            LOL, where were all you loons when Billy was elected by the Electoral College. Electoral College wins, the majority in Killary’s case was 4 states, full of illegals and bottom feeders. The majority of Americans elected Trump, how stupid you are, you come on here and you aren’t even aware that Article II, Section one, Amendment XII, and Amendment XXIII speaks clearly about the Electoral College, and the Electoral College decides who becomes POTUS, and you try to fool all of us that you KNOW the Constitution. Only if it suits your Communist agenda. Do you have a clue why our Founding Fathers, brilliant men, inserted the Electoral College in the Constitution? I guess not, so I’ll educate you. It was to prevent what would have happened in this past election! Only 4 areas in the country electing the President of the U.S. while the vast majority of the country didn’t have a say. This allows EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN to have their vote counted. Your way, the only people that would have their say are the illegals, Muslims and bottom feeders destroying America, those are the only people that voted D in this last election. So shut the HELL up about something you apparently know nothing about!

          95. John says

            Yes I agree on the reasons for the Founding Fathers to set up the Electoral College. Here are facts if you find a video clip on Hillary’s opinion of the popular vote versus electoral vote when Bush won by a hairline thin margins. Hillary said in an interview that in regards to the Bush win, maybe the popular vote would be preferable in the future. If that was so, she had all these years to push for that. Why didn’t she or was all that just talk and conjecture?. I have a feeling that if Hillary won by the electoral votes instead of the popular vote, she would stick to her win and berate Trump if he demanded a recount as she did and backing Jill Stein’s efforts. I guess it is do as I say but don’t do as I do. Lastly, yes I agree that the electoral college was made to make a fairer representation for the other states without big cities with heavy concentration of population. Also, none of the voting and election results takes yet into account voter and election fraud which is generally performed by the Democrat henchman organizations such as Democracy Partners with Bob Creamer. I love to see the actual results if you take away double voting, illegal alien voting, dead people voting, and the stuffing of ballots with non-existing people.

          96. rfrichey says

            Short and sweet, Hillary is not worth the price of a bullet to send her home to hell.

          97. k9maiden says

            That’s certainly where that woman is heading. I would be scared to death of dying if I were that woman. She literally has murdered her way to the top!

          98. marshmil says

            Thanks for posting the red tombstone K9maiden. Have Bill and Hillary had special coaching from deceased Vladimir Lenin and Josef Stalin about how to dispose of dissidents who interfere with their political agenda? Their system appears to be very efficient. Circumstantial evidence stands like Mt. Everest whose top is 5.49 miles above sea level. Not to worry. The Last Judgement will air the Truth.

          99. AKLady says

            Go back to school. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
            Let me educate you …

            1. Each state has 2 seats in the Senate.
            2. Each state’s number of Representatives in the House is based on population.
            3. A state’s number of Electors are based on how many Senators and Representatives it has.

            Fact: Your statement is pure malarkey. You cannot see facts that are right before your face.

          100. k9maiden says

            Yes John, I agree, I’m sure all of us would LOVE to see the results after all the votes from the dead rising on election day (Positive proof there is life after death!), and going to the polls. Funny thing, even if you are a Moderate, an Independent or a staunch Republican, you become a Demoncrap after you die when you rise to vote! LOL No, there isn’t that many stupid people in this country to vote for the Whore of Islam, no way this bitch won the popular vote, we all know she thought she didn’t have to campaign, and ONLY campaigned when alcohol was involved, or a huge fundraiser by her looney tune Hollyweird friends. All the while Trump and Pence went to areas in the country that needed them, like LA after the flood, while Killary couldn’t get her hands dirty or rub up to those that were beneath her. That’s how she thinks, we all know she could care less about Blacks, she was known to not only treat them pretty badly as First Lady of AK but she said some despicable things about them. How stupid are people, to actually believe this woman gives a crap about anyone but herself. She would sell her grandchildren for money, power and control. God answered our prayers on election eve, he certainly did, he prevented evil from taking over our country.

          101. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          102. TrueAmerican says

            AK, and again you have nothing to stand on when faced with REAL FACTS.

          103. Tasine says

            Facts are to democrats the same as are daggers to vampires.

          104. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          105. Greg Hernandez says

            Blah , Blah , Blah , you don’t even see that you are the person described in your own boring , repetitive post Zygote

          106. marshmil says

            I’d like to rephrase it Tasine if you don’t mind.
            Facts are to Democrats the same as sunlight to vampires, Dracula in particular.

          107. Tasine says

            I surely don’t mind hearing such an astute explanation of Democrats as you have provided. Many thanks!!

          108. marshmil says

            Da natha. I like your posts Tasine. Keep up your great commentaries. Buenas nochas.

          109. Tasine says

            Good morning! And, thanks again. 😉

          110. ldyhawk549 says

            Too bad not the same effect as with the vamps

          111. marshmil says

            Ha! I like that Idyhawk549. Yes, bringing their sinister (which means “left”) activities out into the light is something they cannot tolerate so they retreat to their moldy coffins until darkness in which they thrive. Let’s call Hillary “Morticia” since she’s associated with many mysterious deaths. Others posting can add to the “family”.

          112. glorybe2 says

            The right wing has zero facts. It is a delusional group of lowly educated and defective people.

          113. TrueAmerican says

            Glorybe2 what planet did you come from? It’s obvious that it’s one where the creatures SHIT out of their mouth where the rest of the universe has words that make some sense come out. Please crawl back into your Hole and only speak when spoken to, you are NOT smart enough to voice an opinion.

          114. AKLady says

            ”Go back to school. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
            Let me educate you …

            1. Each state has 2 seats in the Senate.
            2. Each state’s number of Representatives in the House is based on population.
            3. A state’s number of Electors are based on how many Senators and Representatives it has.

            Fact: Your statement is pure malarkey. You cannot see facts that are right before your face.

          115. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Haven’t you already posted that enough?!? Are you SO in love with your brilliant repostes that you have to repeat them ad nauseum?

          116. marshmil says

            Joy you are right on target. Thanks. Love it. AKLady comes across as one who has no friends and is lonely with low self-esteem. Some people put others down in order to make themselves appear better then they are able to feel good about themselves.

          117. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Thanks, marsh mellow, happy you came to my defense against AK! My view is that, like almost ALL libturds, the poor thing was dropped on her head as a baby, and she’s never seen things clearly ever since, poor dear!

          118. marshmil says

            Liberals see things backwards. I’ve wondered their brains were installed with reverse polarity.

          119. ldyhawk549 says

            Ah! See that’s the thing. When liberals were told to get in line to receive their brain, they thought rain was said & all went looking for sunshine & rainbows instead.

          120. marshmil says

            Thank you for clarifying the mystery Idyhawk549. They found the rainbow and now use it as their flag. But the sunlight exposes their sinister agenda so they work under dark cover. In 2008 and 2012 they chose a pResident to match even if he didn’t qualify under Constitutional requirements. But neither did he operate by that document’s guidelines–as a despot he saw no justifiable reason to.

          121. marshmil says

            Says the self-appointed Empress of Scientia whose agenda is to rise up and unseat the All Mighty and sit upon His Throne.

          122. Greg Hernandez says

            Blah , Blah , Blah…… Zygote , you really are BORING .

          123. ldyhawk549 says

            More like which universe

          124. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Look in the mirror, O Glorious One! The Loony Left is not only delusional, but EVIL!! Your political philosophy is DESTROYING the USA – and we don’t like that one damn bit! If a Civil War breaks out, I’ll contribute to a fund to buy bullets to put in the heads of the Terrorist Leftists/thugs who will undoubtedly be the first to fan the flames!

          125. marshmil says

            Thanks for printing a description ot the Leftist Democrats’ status in your second sentence. It perfectly fits the behavior of the tantrum throwing college age kids we see throwing rocks, breaking windows creating mayhem in the streets when they don’t get their Hillary candy. Great show there glorybe2. 🙂 Have a great day.

          126. ldyhawk549 says

            Ooooh! Another who speaks the truth about the left wing.

          127. AKLady says

            What facts might those be?
            I am still waiting …

          128. Tasine says

            You left out “TRUE”.

          129. Greg Hernandez says

            You should not talk about YOUR posts like that little Zygote . It just shows how much you are an undeveloped , unfulfilled thing.It is you who spreads tedium and stupidity.

          130. AKLady says

            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.
            Thank you.

          131. ldyhawk549 says

            It does don’t it? Says Greg Hernandez has more brain cells & more intelligence than you, AK(non)Lady

          132. k9maiden says

            That’s because I’m right! LOL, BTW, the Constitution also REQUIRES that a POTUS or VP candidate MUST BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the U.S. but I guess that was something you conveniently overlooked since BO is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, so how dare you preach to all of us what is and is not Constitutional. BO is a foreigner, he went to college on foreign loans, his father was never a U.S. citizen, he was raised in Indonesia and stated on his application to school that he was a MUSLIM and an INDONESIAN CITIZEN. Did the Bastard ever become an American citizen again? At the time BO was in Indonesia, there was no duel citizenship, but being so brilliant, I am sure you are aware of that, and if you are, then you should wonder if he is still a citizen of that overly populated Muslim Country. So, stop with your disdain toward Trump and the election that put him in our WH. He won fair and square, through the Electoral College, and you can’t have it both ways, excusing the Muslim/Communist BO who is, or is not a citizen of this country, and certainly was never a natural born citizen, which should have disqualified him from running for POTUS let alone become POTUS. So, either you FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, or you don’t, and the fact that you stand behind BO shows all of us who know what the requirements of POTUS and VP are, according to the Constitution, BO doesn’t NOT fill the requirements of POTUS, and he should never have been able to be PRESIDENT!

          133. AKLady says

            Natural born = not naturalized.

            Stop embarrassing America with your ignorance, go to the citizenship page and educate yourself.

            People who lie, usually also steal.
            You lie. Do you steal as well?

          134. ldyhawk549 says

            And ;just where did you get your education on citizenship? Oh! Wait! You didn’t.

          135. AKLady says

            U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service

          136. marshmil says

            k9maiden actually Barack Hussein Obama never legally qualified under the Constitution for the US Presidency. I watched a video made when he was a Senator and in which when asked about running for the Presidency he stated he did not qualify. So there we have it directly from the imposter’s mouth. Now the responsibility for the illegality goes to those who failed to vet him before putting his name on ballots and to those who continued to allow his name during the vote counts. Then to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who administered to him the Presidential Oath of Office. It is crystal clear that a lot of evil was going on.

          137. Tasine says

            Hey, in democrat eyes, what’s good for the goose is deadly for the gander. The reason the democrats want to be rid of the electoral college is so that they can stuff the ballot boxes with enough “for democrat criminal” that they can ALWAYS WIN, thereby negating half of the nation – that’s EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. They are self-centered, greedy, lying SLUGS – nothing more.

          138. AKLady says

            Go back to school. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.
            Let me educate you …

            1. Each state has 2 seats in the Senate.
            2. Each state’s number of Representatives in the House is based on population.
            3. A state’s number of Electors are based on how many Senators and Representatives it has.

            Fact: Your statement is pure malarkey. You cannot see facts that are right before your face.

          139. k9maiden says

            Don’t you ever get tired of using the same lines that simply aren’t working? Shows how very ignorant you are, you cannot even answer comments directed toward you without using the same lines over and over again. SMH Stop embarrassing yourself, you’re dealing with people who have brains and common sense on this site, we all see right through your same old same old responses. BORING!

          140. k9maiden says

            Couldn’t agree more Tasine. They look at the election like the damn Super Bowl, except this isn’t one team against the other, it is our country, the life of our children and grandchildren, and our very Republic at risk of being overthrown by evil, and the Demoncraps of today, are no longer the Blue Dog Party of Kennedy of yesteryear, they are pure evil, consisting of Socialist, Communist, and criminals!

          141. Tasine says

            “they are pure evil, consisting of Socialist, Communist, and criminals!” And I would include violent muslims and thousands of illegal aliens.

          142. AKLady says

            May you have your way …
            May you become disabled when you have killed Medicaid.
            May you become disabled when you have killed SSDI.
            May you be denied private insurance because you have a pre-existing medical condition. Are you aware that normal pregnancy and delivery are disqualifying pre-existing conditions?

          143. Tasine says

            “Are you aware that normal pregnancy and delivery are disqualifying pre-existing conditions?” It may be under Obamacare, but it wasn’t before Obama – unless you are referring to illegal aliens.

            The other stuff is BIASED AGAINST THOSE WHO CANNOT QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID OR SSDI. It’s O.K with you for government to be BIASED against some citizens, but not others??????????????????????????????

          144. AKLady says

            You have been well-brainwashed.
            Normal pregnancy and childbirth were used to deny insurance coverage — before the ACA was passed.
            Get an education.

          145. Greg Hernandez says

            What a liberal zombie you are little Zygote.
            The new healthcare bills under discussion will NOT kill Medicare as it will put back the money ozero care took from medicare.
            It will not kill SSDI, they will have SSI investigate fully to eliminate all the fraud allowed by the democrap party. I know some people trying for the last 8 years to get SSDI but they were the wrong color or the wrong background and even though they met ALL the criteria it was refused. They now have a real chance of getting what they paid for when they were working. Your pronouncements are just BS.
            Pre-existing conditions will NOT disqualify anyone.
            Normal pregnacy will not disqualify AND a Hospital cannot refuse treatment even if one can’t afford it..
            As usual , the liberal All Knowing Zygote has spoken the usual liberal BS. Because the new bill is voluntary and not a tax, OF Course many young and or healthy people will drop their ozero care and not have any health insurance but No One is Forcing them… .
            To buy or not to buy , That is the question ….For them to answer for themselves without some Kenyan phony or some rotten self- promoting professors to decide.And a troubled , unaborted Zygotes opinions do not matter as much as a flyspeck on a solar mirror.

          146. AKLady says

            Congress makes the law.
            Congress spends the money.
            Please learn how your government functions.
            Name calling is infantile..

            The hospital emergency room is not the proper place to seek treatment for non-emergency illnesses. In fact, emergency rooms are places where you are likely to acquire some of the most dangerous germs on the fact of this planet.

            One emergency room visit costs more than the premiums for one year of health insurance coverage.

          147. Greg Hernandez says

            Blah , Blah , Blah Same old , same old. Boring , repetitive and not germane to the conversation. Had 4 emergency room visits , the only thing more expensive would have been ozero care premiums.
            Lots of hospitals now charge by ability to pay.And the emergency room sometimes serves as an admitting facility.You lose , go to sleep oh little Zygote with no brain.
            Under my last company paid insurance ( I paid $ 28.00 monthly for my wife and I ) I had my Gall bladder removed as soon as I visited the emergency room. I paid a total of roughly $ 1,200.00 . My cost under ozerocare would have been premiums of $ 450.00 a month and operation and emergency room payment of around 8 to 10 thousand dollars.
            Maybe wherever you worked or were a patient at was the dirtiest place on earth but I know lots of hospitals that are doing their damnedest to be clean. Go spout your stupidity somewhere else little Zygote.

          148. AKLady says

            The average ER visit costs $5,000 or more.
            Here in Alaska, it is even higher than that, but then, there are only two large hospitals and two insurance carriers.
            Name calling is very juvenile. Suggest you develop maturity.
            Relying upon facts would also be another good place to start.
            Gallbladders are not removed in emergency rooms.
            The cost of your insurance is a direct outcome of the type of plan you choose to purchase. Your deductible is also a matter of choice. The higher the deductible, the lower the monthly premium.

          149. Greg Hernandez says

            $ 5,000 , not where I live and not for Anything I’ve been in for. My plan was called a Cadillac plan by the crooks who put ozerocare together. I don’t need a Zygote to explain insurance plans as I have been paying for my insurance for 45+ years. And use your non-existent powers of reasoning… I had pain , went to Emergency Room , they did Xrays and a visual scan , found problem, admitted me. 3 hours later all prepped , operating team in readiness and gall bladder removed , stayed in bed 2 days and went home. ER cost around $1,200.00 Operation cost out of pocket around $ 1,500.00.Should have explained to you that I was talking about the ER expense total , My error. I thought you almost had enough brainpower to figure that out. I forgot , Zygotes have no brains.
            The only juvenile on this blog is the undeveloped Zygote. Not calling names , just stating a fact you prove every time you post. Blah , Blah , Blah same old BS. You are not near as intelligent as you think you are . Too much Blah and bloviating , not enough careful thought or innate intelligence out of you.
            If Uncle Sap payed for your education, he really got gypped.

          150. AKLady says

            Maybe you should come on up here to Alaska.
            A doctor office visit is $250.00 and higher,

          151. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          152. ldyhawk549 says

            Good questions to be directed at yourself.

          153. Greg Hernandez says

            Why do You tell these lies ?
            Why do you embarrass America with the foul bile you spew ?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable for you to lie while preaching to everyone else ?
            Why do You believe it is acceptable for you to repeat lies ?
            You are just another extreme left wing zombie or undeveloped Zygote repeating the same filth and the same garbage.

          154. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          155. Greg Hernandez says

            Yup , that’s exactly what you do.Blah , Blah , Blah , lie , lie some more and then lie some more , insult , ( though how a worm like you CAN insult anyone is way beyond the realm of possibility) , assume you know anything even though you know nothing important , exaggerate your lack of intelligence especially because being an undeveloped Zygote you have only a mass of tissues but no brain , you repeat the same old drivel year in year out , your posts are tedious and totally boring and your are repetitive because you can’t think more than one thought a week.
            Isn’t it great to know that you are a laughing stock for serious people who need a break from harsh reality and enjoy sophomoric humor like what you spew every post. Like laughing at Kramer.

            And just to make sure you understand the English language :
            No one ever says ; ” See how the Zygote is growing in the womb “.
            Planned Murderhood kills BABIES and has sold dismembered pieces of BABIES they have killed.They do not bother Zygotes.
            Planned Murderhood does NOT provide mammograms , or any prenatal care . Their mission is to kill more babies than Hitler , Stalin and Obama combined.They should not get tax money from anyone. If you want to donate to them and support the murder of babies then go for it. I do not wish to.

            You need to grow a brain little Zygote because You are tedious, boring and quite plainly an idiot in need of treatment in a hospital for the insane.

          156. AKLady says

            You have obviously never attempted to buy health insurance in the open market.
            You obviously have a very limited science education.
            The depth of your brainwashing is immense.

            No “sale” of parts have taken place.
            Shipment of living tissue is very expensive. Living tissue, whether it be for transplant or simply for science, must be provided the utmost care.

            Women undergo abortion for many reasons.
            They have the legal right to donate tissue to science.
            Many zygotes are spontaneously aborted, and flushed down the toilet.

          157. glorybe2 says

            At the time of the founding one city might have had the majority of votes for the nation. The west was not opened at all. Now we have states with minute populations with way too much voice in government. The effect is to crush the votes of the vast majority who do live in cities. Even the notion that a sate could somehow better govern itself than a federal government could comes up as idiotic when you look at the history of governments in states like Mississippi and Louisiana.

          158. AKLady says

            You will never convince the right-wing.
            They are too well-brainwashed to see facts.

          159. k9maiden says

            No, you are the brainwashed, you want to overlook what the Founding Fathers put forth for this great nation, and it wasn’t so a few areas in the country would elect the POTUS and VP, it was so that all the states would have a say in who they wanted for POTUS! How stupid are you? What part of this don’t you understand, and while we are at it, where were you when Bill Clinton was elected by the Electoral College? SMH

          160. ldyhawk549 says

            “They are too well-brainwashed (two words not hyphenated showing lack of education) to see facts” Yep. That explains the left perfectly.

          161. AKLady says

            I suggest that you refresh you grammar education.


          162. Greg Hernandez says

            You have NO idea about real facts Zygote. The reason you zygotes will never convince the right is that we have fully developed brains , we don’t let so-called leaders think for us and because unlike un-aborted Zygotes we are aware and can think for ourselves.

          163. Greg Hernandez says

            Then the same can be said for the lefty wingnuts of the corrupt democrap party.

          164. k9maiden says

            The reason the Electoral College was set up was to prevent a few areas of the country from having the say who was or was not going to be POTUS. Do you honestly believe the Founding Fathers didn’t look forward to the nation they gave their lives and their families lives to insure a Republic saw this nation growing and growing reaching from coast to coast? Of course we all know that the West and even Midwest wasn’t yet part of the U.S., but they had the brains to look into the future and assure every single state that they would have as much of a say in who was elected POTUS and VP than those largely populated areas. That’s what the Electoral College is about.

          165. Tasine says

            It is pointless to try to educate the political left. They pretend to be stupid, or perhaps they merely ARE stupid and determined to remain that way. Regardless, they are not going to listen to any truth, you know, wooden stake through the heart.?

          166. AKLady says

            As per the Constitution:

            Every state has two Senators

            The House is composed of representatives who sit in congressional districts which are allocated to each of the 50 states on a basis of population as measured by the U.S. Census, with each district entitled one representative

          167. Greg Hernandez says

            Donald J. Trump The first real president after GW Bush.Look at the map of counties that went for Trump and you can see why the Founding Fathers were correct. In the US today , the democraps control many cities and look at how they are run. Do you want to live in Detroit , NY , LA , San Frantasia ?. Why would I want to live in a state controlled by left wing idiots ? Mississippi and Louisiana have been mostly Democrap controlled for YEARS. That is why they have problems. You have a lot to learn.

          168. AKLady says

            Let me educate you …

            1. Each state has 2 seats in the Senate.
            2. Each state’s number of Representatives in the House is based on population.
            3. A state’s number of Electors are based on how many Senators and Representatives it has.

            Fact: Your statement is pure malarkey. You cannot see facts that are right before your face.

            Did you fail Civics Class?

          169. k9maiden says

            I took Government in college before the Commie professors took over, you are preaching to the choir, and your meaningless insults mean nothing to any of us because you have proven time and again that you are absolutely ignorant to what is Constitutional, and the Electoral College is one of those areas you are completely ignorant about!

          170. AKLady says

            Your rants about Obama tell a totally different story.
            You publish your ignorance for the world to see.

          171. ldyhawk549 says

            I even had to take government in my senior year in high school in order to graduate (public school before they went to heck) as well as college. Looking back I’m grateful it was a requirement. Had an excellent government teacher too.

          172. Greg Hernandez says

            Little Zygote , an undeveloped , unaborted , thing cannot educate anyone. Your lies and BS overshadow any copying you may have done of real facts. You failed life class.

          173. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          174. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          175. AKLady says

            ==More art theft.
            Plagiarism is stealing.

          176. Greg Hernandez says

            More stupid commenting , a great example of lack of undeveloped brainpower.

          177. AKLady says

            You approve of stealing,
            nothing unexpected there …

          178. ldyhawk549 says

            You & the rest of the dems are all about stealing and approve doing it.

          179. k9maiden says

            That’s what you said to me, but then, I never plagiarized and neither did any of these people, that is fact. HOWEVER, it is convenient for you to consistently respond this way when losing an argument, how LIBERAL of you! LOL

          180. AKLady says

            The site monitors did not agree with you.

          181. Ahmed F. Hosny says

            and, now, we see where Chelsea gets her looks!!!

          182. AKLady says

            Talk about an ignorant, sexist remark!

          183. AKLady says

            Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times in less than 100 days.
            Your point is what?

          184. k9maiden says

            No he didn’t, but where were you when BO and Hillary allowed our men to be butchered in Benghazi, a gun running deal gone wrong with the savages by the BO Regime. Where were you when BO lied about Benghazi, as did the Whore of ISLAM, “It was a movie insulting the prophet that caused the Muzzies to attack our Embassy!” Where were you and your “feigned distain” when an innocent Coptic Christian who made a 10 minute movie about MOHAMMAD was used as a target by the BO Regime because they needed a fall guy. This man is either still in jail for something that he absolutely didn’t do, and is now the target of all the crazy MUZZIES because he dared insult the great Mohammad? Where were you? Your responses are absolutely ridiculous. Hypocritical damn bitch with not one ounce of common sense! Why didn’t you call for the impeachment of a known liar, a usurper, an American hating, Muslim/Communist loving impostor? Where were you when BO lied everytime he opened his mouth, when he was spending over one and a half billion tax payer dollars on lavish vacations, when you couldn’t get him off the golf course to comment on the beheadings of the innocent journalist, when our men were murdered in Benghazi! Where were you? We don’t need your own interpretation of the Constitution now, you lost the election, Trump is here to stay, and trust me, he will be reelected because you Commies are no longer in charge and the next election will not be rigged, not if the Conservative Administration has anything to do with it, so suck it up Sweet Cheeks, you Commies are out, we got our country back!

          185. TrueAmerican says

            AK. NO WE the People DID NOT elect the Liar Hitlery.

          186. AKLady says

            Suggest you go back to school and learn how to read.
            Hillary had over 3 million more votes than Trump.

          187. Tasine says

            YOUR PEOPLE elected no one in the 2016 election. We real people elected Donald Trump in 2016. You and your kind have a serious jealousy problem. I suggest you work on being a decent citizen instead of trying to divide the nation every time you sit down at your computer. Put your jealousy aside for a time. If you cannot live with what our government is SUPPOSED to be, I suggest you leave it ASAP.

          188. marshmil says

            Well said Tasine. Thanks.

          189. Tasine says

            Por nada. 😉

          190. marshmil says

            Da nada. ;-).

          191. AKLady says

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President — the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.
            Start with the Electoral College.

          192. mac12sam12 says

            Ever hear of the electoral college? All counties in the US should be represented and not just the major cities like LA, Chicago and NY. Educate yourself, learn the constitution.

          193. AKLady says

            You are not making any sense, whatsoever.
            The Electoral College ha nothing, whatsoever, to do with cities or counties.
            It does, however, have everything to do with population size.

            While every state has two Senators, the number of Representatives is a function of population size..

            The number of Electors a state has is the same as it total of Senators and Representatives.
            I would suggest you educate yourself further.
            You just embarrassed yourself before the world.

          194. mac12sam12 says

            It’s what the electoral college is about, counties! Look at an electoral map by counties online, the country is all red. You can’t have a few major cities determining the election, Read the Constitution, educate yourself!!

          195. AKLady says

            Each state has more “counties” than it has Electors.

          196. Greg Hernandez says

            Little Zygote , you are not ” We the People ” , you are an unaborted zygote trying to fit in a world you do not understand , can never adapt to and where you are an unaccepted , undeveloped interloper. AK Lady American Kooky Loon wanna be !

          197. AKLady says

            Is that the best you can do?
            I am disappointed. I thought you were capable of better.

          198. jreg9304 says

            Did anyone ever tell you that you have a disability? Have you ever been diagnosed with a disease called Opticalrectumitis? It is an ailment to where the nerves of your eyes are connected to your asshole, you have a shitty outlook on life.

            Clinton lost because she was and is very unpopular for the simple thing that liberal morons like you can’t get thru your heads. Clinton way born corrupt and will die corrupt. I wish the later is sooner!!!

          199. AKLady says

            Sewer language.
            Adolescent male sexual focus.
            Childish insults.

            Provide me with just one example where the DOJ charged either Clinton with discrimination. Trump has been charged over 200 times. Start your education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973.
            Legal records document that Trump has bwen named in over 4,000 lawsuits.

            Yes, I have an attitude — It is called law and honesty.

          200. marshmil says

            jreg9304 your post is excellent however having read quite a number of posts by this individual it is clear that he/she/it is grossly defensive and says nothing constructive for the betterment of mankind. “She’s” backed into a corner by dozens of others and cannot get out. The negativity that comes from “her” is astounding…nothing positive, no recommendations for improvement of the Nation—just fountains of negative defensive comments. Some people with low self esteem try to make others look relatively bad in order to feel good about themselves. After all’s said here I honestly wish this individual a better life than what’s coming across to me here. “She” must be really miserable. May God Bless our great Nation under His Guidance. Shalom

          201. glorybe2 says

            You are right. Trump is not our president. He is illegitimate. He sold us out to the Russians in exchange for a propaganda effort as well as not releasing the films and voice tapes of the sexual nightmare he committed in Moscow. It is so vile that the networks refuse to describe exactly what he was doing. Apparently it involved urine and prostitutes. We don’t know if he was giving or receiving. i think the entire thing should be on TV for the whole world to see.

          202. marshmil says

            Me too glorybe2 and I’m a Trump supporter. My request is to prove via FACTS that such nonsense does not exist therefore cannot be proved. So let FACTS be presented to a candid www. We are waiting!

          203. Joy Daniels Brower says

            OMG. I thought you’d died and gone to Heaven (or Hell)!! Yes, you, “the people,” elected Hillary. Good for you. So, when are you going to DC to have tea with her in the Oval Office? And your telling everyone to mind their manners is a totally lost cause, ’cause you INSPIRE sarcasm, rudeness, ridicule and contempt!! Stuff it, “alte koche!” (AK)

          204. AKLady says

            You have made 1,954 comments.
            All of them negative.
            All of them insults.
            That little home-based typing business must not be very busy.
            Right, you call it a resume writing company.
            Are you good at making people look better than they really are?

          205. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Actually, since you asked, I started this little resume business 25 years ago (just before I retired early due to remarriage), and I’m proud to say that my hundreds of clients have been, for the most part, VERY pleased with the results of my contribution to helping them put their best foot forward. Of course, your ignorance of that business shows, because the first rule of thumb is NEVER to lie or make up false narratives. Put a positive spin on things, of course, but trying to “gild a lily” when it’s really an ugly duckling, usually backfires. Even though I rarely use them when posting online, I actually have excellent writing skills (years of formal writing – business letters and government reports, et al) and know how to lay out a resume format so that it has a better than 50-50 chance of actually being read & considered by HR folks who usually are inundated with resumes at this time in our economy. But thanks for the “opening” to plug my little business on this excellent website!!

          206. Duane says

            We the people elected Trump.

          207. k9maiden says

            ”WE THE PEOPLE” DID NOT ELECT KILLARY! LOL! YOU THE ILLEGALS, THE DEAD, AND THE DEMONCRAPS WHO CHEAT TO GET WHAT THEY WANT THROUGH A RIGGED ELECTION VOTED FOR KILLARY. The rest of us had the brains to KNOW our country was on the brink of Communism and ISLAM if that bitch was selected. So stop pushing it! Bill Clinton won by the Electoral College, where was all the protest there? PLEASE DO TELL!

          208. AKLady says

            Racial bigotry
            Religious bigotry
            Sewer language
            Name calling
            So very impressive.

          209. Great-gram says

            And are we ever thankful that you so-called, self-serving “we the people” didn’t push Hellary into the White House! I can’t even imagine what it would be like if she were having to handle all that is going on right now! She would fall apart at the seams instead of talking sense to the world leaders like President Trump does and is respected by them for doing so. Now if only the Democraps would support him instead of fighting over every move for the good.

          210. AKLady says

            Heir Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times, in just over three months.
            I cannot support someone who cannot abide by the Constitution.
            I cannot respect by someone who is too stupid to ask about Constitutionality before acting.

          211. ldyhawk549 says

            We the people voted to NOT elect Hillary.

          212. AKLady says

            Please learn how your government functions.
            Your ignorance embarrasses America.

          213. usmcltc says

            What!? “We the People elected Hillary”. How many times have you said, “The people DO NOT elect the President”. I think that you are losing it or you can not remember what you have said in the past. Time for a break?

          214. glorybe2 says

            No, she is correct. An elector is under no real compulsion to vote as the majority in their district has voted. They might face a tiny fine if they vote opposite of what their district has voted but it is hardly enough to stop them from doing so.

          215. jreg9304 says

            Oh my,, here is another misinformed, liberal, braindead, moron, who can’t find their ass with both index fingers. Bend over and smile wide for a big fire hose!!

          216. AKLady says

            Go back to school and learn how your government functions.
            You embarrass America with your ignorance,
            Your sewer mouth also documents you childishness.

          217. k9maiden says

            Where did you get your political education? LOL Oh, I know Alinsky 101, get serious, do you honestly believe anyone with a brain and common sense thinks you are educated in the Constitution or how our government is run? IF YOU WERE YOU SURE AS HELL WOULDN’T BE A LIBERAL WHO IS HELL BENT ON CHANGING EVERY ASPECT OF OUR CONSTITUTION!

          218. k9maiden says

            AND millions of Americans voted to bring back the Constitution when they voted AGAINST THE WHORE OF ISLAM AND THE REGIME!

          219. AKLady says

            Name calling.
            By the way, Hillary won the popular vote.

          220. ldyhawk549 says

            No she didn’t. Those three million extra votes were illegal votes. Even Jill Stein uncovered that when she tried to do a re-count in Michigan and Wisconsin.

            Before you mention Pennsylvania, she was a week or two late for getting that re-counted. As it is, the Michigan courts proved Stein didn’t even have a legit claim to having a re-count.

          221. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          222. usmcltc says

            Is that the only response you have? If so, give it a rest!

          223. marshmil says

            Hillary didn’t win the Oval Office where she could continue her recreational active of throwing lamps, talking rudely to employees and then smiling at the cameras.

          224. usmcltc says

            You bet, Hillary did win the popular vote thanks to the people in the “foreign state” of California and the “what else can we tax” state of New York. That popular vote got her SECOND place, which was quite a feat since it was really only a two person race. With all of his faults and law breaking, he still beat Hillary, so what does that say about Hillary and the liberals?

          225. AKLady says

            What does it say?
            Answer: We the People do not elect a President.
            Answer: The Electoral College cannot be forced to follow the popular vote. However, several states tried. They removed and replaced Electors.

          226. usmcltc says

            Just how many Electors were removed and replaced and in what states and what affect did this have on the election. Hint: NONE.

          227. AKLady says

            How are Electors chosen in your state?
            Are they sworn to uphold the popular vote?
            What punitive action can be taken if they are unfaithful?

            Three of the faithless electors voted for Colin Powell while John Kasich, Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, and Faith Spotted Eagle each received one vote.

            Only four times in American history has a presidential candidate lost the popular vote but achieved the Electoral College majority. Interestingly, they were all Republicans.

            David Bright in Maine and Muhammad Abdurrahman in Minnesota had their votes invalidated. Abdurrahman was replaced by an alternate elector. In Colorado, Michael Baca had his vote invalidated and was replaced.

          228. usmcltc says

            Man, you are grasping at straws, as a few faithless voters had NOTHING to do with the last election. You liberals just won’t give it up and realize that Hillary LOST the election. No amount of “Oh, but she won the popular vote” and crying in your beer is going to change that. Give it a rest.

          229. AKLady says

            I thought we were discussion the Electoral Colege.
            My mistake.

          230. usmcltc says

            We have been talking about the Electoral College and the popular vote. Again faithless voters had no affect on the election results, so are therefore irrelevant.

          231. AKLady says

            Congress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            Learn how your government functions.
            You are embarrassing America.
            Suggest you refresh you so-caolled education.
            You keep leaving Congress and the Supreme Court out of the equation..

          232. ldyhawk549 says

            That is exactly whant you do need to do AKLady. Go back to school & learn how your government functions. Only embarrassment is you.

            While I’m not embarrassed by you, you should be embarrassed how poorly you know how the US government really works.

          233. k9maiden says

            Yep, forget the Constitution, the liberals make things up as they go and they expect us to believe them. No, I’ll stand by the Constitution of the U.S. and the Law of our Land.

          234. AKLady says

            You would not recognize the Constitution if it slapped you in the face.

          235. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss.
            You are a prime example.
            The sewer mouth is simply icing on the cake.

          236. Bill says

            Okay, so you are saying that no one needs bother to vote, because it makes no difference. Focus on a technicality, and come up with a false conclusion. Sorry, but votes do matter in the real world, even if they are filtered through the Electoral College in limited ways. It makes no sense at all to suggest that voting doesn’t have an effect on the election! So, you are both correct, and very wrong. Wonderful accomplishment.

          237. AKLady says

            Exaggeration, is it not beautiful to behold.

          238. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Fact can be a very difficult thing for some people to accept.

          239. AKLady says

            Only two states, Maine and Nebraska, divide their Electors to match the popular vote.

          240. Bill says

            That’s nice. That’s their choice. The Constitution does not require it.

          241. AKLady says

            It is evidence that “We the People” do not elect the President.
            It is evidence that many Americans are delusional in that respect.
            While the current process was necessary in 1778, it is no longer needed in a modern, technological world.

          242. Bill says

            Technology has not the remotest bearing on the purpose of the Electoral College, and it never did. The EC gives states a somewhat more equal voice at the table, so that the less populous states are not simply overwhelmed by populous ones. That is its purpose. With this now explained to you, you have a chance to get the point, or to continue spouting your stuff.

          243. AKLady says

            Each state has 2 Senators.
            Each state has members of the House based on population size.
            Each state has Electoral College members equal to the total of their representatives in Congress.

            Hence, the higher the population, the more Electoral College votes they have.

          244. Bill says

            Ergo, Trump being in office reflects the Electoral College, which in turn reflects the popular vote. If you want to try and make that case, it is fine with me, although you would evidently not be correct. I accept your fine explanation.

          245. AKLady says

            Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes.
            Some electors voted for Collin Powell.
            Others voted for Ron Paul.
            The point being neither candidate was well-liked.
            At this point, just over three months in office, Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times. There are Russians playing the threat game off the coast of my state, for the first tine since Reagan was in office
            Enjoy your victory. Hopefully, Putin has more common sense than the Trump.

          246. usmcltc says

            Wait a minute, I thought the liberals were saying Putin and Trump are buddies to the point where Putin helped Trump win the election. Now, YOU are saying that Putin is playing the “threat game”. Why would Putin do that to one of his “friends” as the liberals have alleged?

          247. AKLady says

            Because it makes money for people?
            The Military Industrial Complex is a very profitable industry.
            Korea seemed to put a hitch in the friendship.
            Then, again, Trump has many business interests in Russia.
            h, excuse me, he skirted the Emoluments Clause by turning everything over to his sons … I have this bridge I’d like to sell you….

          248. ldyhawk549 says

            Gee! Complain about name calling then call everyone delusional. LMAO

            Obviously it is still needed. You, and those who repeat the lies you come up with, are the prime example of why it is still needed.

          249. usmcltc says

            “It is evidence that “We the People” do not elect the President.
            It is evidence that many Americans are delusional in that respect.”
            A quote form one of those people that are so proud to say, “But, Hillary got three million more votes than Trump”. Why do they keep saying this, when that fact only meant that Hillary came in SECOND?

          250. AKLady says

            Had the Electoral College followed the “people’s vote,”
            Hillary would be our President.

          251. usmcltc says

            But, the Electoral College DOES NOT follow the “People’s vote”. You are the one that keeps saying “the people don’t elect the president”; however, since Hillary lost the election, you want to change your comment to “Hillary won the popular vote”. The fact is, Hillary STILL came in second and winning the popular vote does not change that.

          252. AKLady says

            Explain why you support the following without raising an issue:

            Electors voted for Faith Spotted Eagle.
            Electrs voted for Collin Powell
            Electors voted for Ron Paul.

            Each state has two Senators.
            Each state has Representatives in the House based on population size.

            Each state has Electors equal to the number of their total its Senators and Representative’s.
            Hence, you statements about New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago is pure malarkey …

          253. Bill says

            Not so. As you have described, the Electoral College keeps just New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago from electing our President. Since you agree with that, and complain continually that Hillary got more votes but is not in the White House, it obviously is not malarkey. Thanks for sharing, though.

          254. ldyhawk549 says

            More libtard lying since the electors didn’t vote for the folks you mention.

          255. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          256. usmcltc says

            Another “cut and paste” answer. Great job!

          257. AKLady says

            Obvious insult deserve originality?
            Obvious exaggerations deserve originality?
            Obvious falsehoods deserve originality?
            Which is it?
            How many times must one repeat how Presidential elections are processed?

            Each state has 2 Senators.
            Each state has member of the House of Representatives
            based on population size.

            Hence, New York, California and Illinois have more Electors.

          258. AKLady says

            Each state has 2 Senators.
            Each state has member of the House of Representatives
            based on population size.

            Hence, New York, California and Illinois have more Electors.

          259. usmcltc says

            Are you referring to that same Electoral College that liberals now hate and want to do away with, since Hillary did not win? You know that same Electoral College that elected Trump to be our president.

          260. AKLady says

            There was a time when the EC was necessary.
            Distances made voting anf vote vaunting difficult.
            Only two states allot their Electoral votes to match the voted cast.
            We now live in the Electronic Age.
            Tell me when Faith Spotted Eagle ran for President?
            How about Collin Powell?
            There were Electors who voted for them.

          261. Bill says

            The Electoral College is not a vote-gathering mechanism. You should educate yourself about its actual purpose. I have no idea what “vote vaunting” is supposed to mean.

          262. AKLady says

            gerund or present participle: vaunting
            boast about or praise (something), especially excessively.”the much vaunted information superhighway”
            synonyms:boast about, brag about, make much of, crow about, parade, flaunt; More
            acclaim, trumpet, praise, extol, celebrate;
            informalshow off about, hype;
            “their much vaunted record of accuracy”

          263. Bill says

            Yes, I know the meaning of “vaunt.” I just don’t believe that the Electoral College “praises votes,” or “boasts votes.” Is that really what you meant to say?! As usual, it makes no sense.

          264. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?
            Why do you steal?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to steal?

          265. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Why are you a liberal moron?
            Why do you embarrass liberals like you do?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable behave and lie like a liberal?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to be a Democrackhead racist thug Crooked Hillary supporter?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to be a Moron?

          266. marshmil says

            Thanks for posting AKLady’s likeness. Has she had her annual rabies inoculation?

          267. marshmil says

            That’s what WE are asking you and your Democrat/Leftist bedfellows.

          268. AKLady says

            I am not a Democrat —
            Why do you lie?

          269. marshmil says

            To you everyone lies. How do you get along in this world if you do not believe anything anyone tells you? You accuse me of lying. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. We are waiting.

          270. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          271. marshmil says

            You proved by FACT you cannot submit proof. All of your posts are blah, blah, blah, blah, lie, assume, exaggerate…
            repeat ad nauseam. Tedious, boring repetitive. Whatever you post here is a mirror image of yourself. Zero productive.
            Zero contributive to the betterment of humanity. You are unfortunately caught in a miserable mindset and likely an unhappy life. You’re not a Democrat. Ok, maybe independent. OK. Non-productive is more accurate. So now reply with your rubber stamp blah, blah, etc.

          272. AKLady says

            Still waiting for evidence and proof.

          273. marshmil says

            Since you failed to give facts for proof in my own recent post I’m not obligated to play your game.

          274. AKLady says

            Your post makes no sense, whatsoever.

          275. marshmil says

            You are a typical leftist. When you cannot answer a question you try to divert attention away from it in an attempt to save your own face. You have been weighed in the scales and have been found wanting, i. e., coming up short.

          276. AKLady says

            What question?

          277. marshmil says

            Never mind now. You’re late. The plane has left the Gate.

          278. marshmil says

            My posts make no sense to you whatever because I am a conservative politically. I cherish traditional American values we enjoy under the system of free enterprise. I support a President’s sworn/affirmed duty to protect and defend the Constitution by whatever means he/she believes appropriate and necessary even if it includes ordering F-22’s to scramble in Alaska or bar immigration of people from geographical areas where it has been shown that allowing them entrance to the USA is a threat to the lives and safety of American citizens. “AKLady” holds to liberal tenets that are essentially anti-traditional American. That’s why my posts make no sense to you whatsoever. If you adhere to feminism and/or reject the Judea-Christian faith then that insures your failure to comprehend.

          279. AKLady says

            “I support a President’s sworn/affirmed duty to protect and defend the Constitution by whatever means he/she believes appropriate and necessary even if it includes ordering F-22’s to scramble in Alaska or bar immigration of people from geographical areas where it has been proved that allowing them entrance to the USA is a threat to the lives and safety of American citizens.”

            One sentence totaling 62 words, no punctuation.
            Maybe you should learn how to write properly.
            If you did, you might be able to convey your position much better.

          280. marshmil says

            If you, AKLady were a US President you’d spend your days
            criticizing how dust was on you desk, the temperature of water served to you, what was used to clean the White House carpets, how the floors were polished, the wattage of lights in the Oval Office, whether the steps at the North Portico of the White house were properly swept, what mowers were used on the White House lawn and hundreds of other penny ante unimportant issues. But rather than give you more fodder to chew on and spit back out with picky, picky comments like your one above I’ll just sign off here. You enjoy being controvertible. And using adolescent talk which you’ve pointed out previously you have a fetish for penny ante, useless verbiage that leads nowhere and offers nothing for the betterment of mankind. Why don’t you try being positive for a change. Or does
            being liberal, non-Democrat, feminist, anti God provide you with enjoyment? Keep watching the Elmendorf Base for us. With your attention to petty detail we are much safer. Thanks for that. And BTW, my 62-word sentence above exhibits correct English grammar. You must have flunked English composition. Go enroll in English Composition 101 at a nearby college or university. You need at least a refresher course. Shalom. 🙂

          281. AKLady says

            I have no need to watch.
            Fighter jets make a huge amount of nose on takeoff

          282. marshmil says

            Oh, I thought maybe you would be out there chasing birds and bugs out of the way so the planes can safely take off or land since you pay much attention to minuscule factual issues.

          283. marshmil says

            Yes, I’m still waiting for your facts as of a month ago. So far you’ve only pulled your fog and mirror game of turning something around 180 degrees. Try something original for a change.

          284. AKLady says

            I’m impressed. just not the way you desire,
            Good night.

          285. usmcltc says

            There you go again, acting like a liberal. No substance, just insults: “lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …”.

          286. AKLady says

            When awake, I hear every plane that takes off and lands at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson. I get my data first-hand, not from mass media. You claim to be former military. Certainly, you would recognize the sound of F-22s taking off. The E-3 is not distinctive, but if you are around the airfield long enough you recognize the planes. They were scrambled several times back in April, as well.

          287. usmcltc says

            You have a choice, either quit complaining or move. Simple.

          288. AKLady says

            You questioned the recent frequency of Russian approaches to Alaska.
            I explained that I am within hearing distance of the fighter take-offs.
            If it was a problem, I would not have moved into this home to begin with —
            15 years ago..

          289. usmcltc says

            So, stop complaining.

          290. marshmil says

            Ha! … perfect solution to her “noise” problem usmcltc. I’m happy to know our USAF is protecting our mainland…she’s hearing F-22s scrambled instead of eggs in her kitchen.

          291. marshmil says

            usmcltc you say “acting” like a liberal. AKLady IS a liberal.

          292. marshmil says

            Gotcha! You cannot answer my question with proof. Typical leftist. Try to deflect attention to something unrelated to derail attention!

          293. AKLady says

            Still waiting for your to prove your accusations.

          294. marshmil says

            You failed to offer proof that I lied so I’m not obligated to offer anything to you. It’s non tit for non tat or do you no comprende? Nicht verstehest du? Then katalavis?
            –that’s Greek to you!

          295. marshmil says

            It’s a two-way street kiddo.

          296. marshmil says

            You failed to answer. That means a grade of “F”.
            To YOU everyone lies about everything and only you
            have correct knowledge about all things. That’s the
            “Concrete” level as described by Piaget. It is the level
            of early and mid teenage mentality. They know everything
            and nobody else knows anything.

          297. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          298. Joy Daniels Brower says

            But you sure as hell are a leftist loony! I don’t think even the Dems would want you to identify with them!

          299. AKLady says

            You really do enjoy insulting people.
            Does it make you feel powerful?
            Is it an ego trip?
            Is it this the only avenue in which you van exert control?
            Do you suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder?

          300. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Oh, don’t get so high fillutin’! You just effin piss me off, and it’s fun (for an otherwise well-mannered person) to just let off steam and let ya have it! You deserve nothing less!

          301. AKLady says

            You really do enjoy insulting people.
            Thank you for admitting it.

          302. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Actually, to be more precise, I DON’T enjoy insulting people whatsoever!! That is not my nature; I get along with MOST people very well! You, however, as they say, “are the exception to prove/test the rule!” You’re a very special case: If we’re being obnoxious to YOU, then you are inspired to “one-up” us every time! Actually, rather than fret or stress, I think it’s wiser to just “let ‘er rip!” and let off steam and no stress will build up and harm the body (mine, in this case and to be specific)!

          303. AKLady says

            I am veey set on fact and truth.
            Cross either of those lines, you will probably hear from me..
            Now, I’ll say a polite good night
            I have a client heating in the morning.

          304. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Thank you for your nice good-night message! It should be a lesson for ME! Have a good week!

          305. marshmil says

            May God have mercy on your client!

          306. AKLady says

            You should have saved your prayers for the opposition.

          307. marshmil says

            And just what is the “opposition”?

          308. AKLady says

            In this case, it was the Alaska Department of Health & Social Services.
            In this case, the Administrative Law Judge issued an immediate decision.
            The agency will have to pay for the client’s medical bill.

          309. marshmil says

            So? I know nothing of the “case” so am not a part of it.

          310. AKLady says

            You asked, I answered.

          311. Greg Hernandez says

            She IS the client . The state is most likely trying to put her into an institution where she can’t infect anybody else. This looney even tried to correct me when I stated that planned murderhood killed babies. She claimed they killed no babies, just removed Zygotes from those millions of wombs. Zygotes have no semblance to humans , no brains , etc, That’s why I call her Little Zygote. She has no brain , just goes around spewing vomit all over.

          312. marshmil says

            Ha ha! Greg I actually did wonder about that myself. She is the client who was at her hearing this morning. Says she was trained in medicine. Hmmm. She has delusions of grandeur as a psychiatrist.

          313. Greg Hernandez says

            .She sure does. I’ve seen her stuff on lots of conservative blogs and news groups and it’s the same old trash she has written here. So now when I see her on a site I always call her little Zygote , undeveloped , no brain and unaborted.

          314. usmcltc says

            You mean the “fact and truth” as YOU see them. You make NO concessions, AFTER you have decided that YOU are right. THAT is what people do NOT respect and may show that disrespect with insults, which is the same as YOU do.

          315. AKLady says

            Instead of the insult, why didn’t you simply ask for citations?

          316. usmcltc says

            I stand by my statement. If you take it as an insult, so be it.

          317. AKLady says

            If you want citations, ask for them.
            I’ll be happy to provide them.

          318. usmcltc says

            If you want to provide “citations”, whatever they are, go ahead, but it will not change my comment.

          319. marshmil says

            Thanks we now know who the monitor of fact and truth is. I have a question…and I ask for fact and truth and you are the only reliable source per your own admission. Question: Where did God come from?

          320. AKLady says

            I don’t play that game.

          321. marshmil says

            You atheists are all alike. Non-commital about items of Faith…such terrify you. “You have the right to remain silent” in THIS life only. 🙂

          322. AKLady says

            I don’t play that game.
            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult, assume, exaggerate …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          323. usmcltc says

            There you go, responding like a liberal again. And, YOU accuse others of insulting you?

            Does it make you feel powerful?
            Is it an ego trip?
            Is it this the only avenue in which you van exert control?
            Do you suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder?

          324. AKLady says

            Yes, asking questions is a liberal habit.
            Not one I am likely to give up.

          325. usmcltc says

            Is it a liberal habit to ask you, “Why you lie” (a question)?

          326. AKLady says

            When the post being replied contains lies, yes, it is the correct response to make. However, I’ll admit doing so is the lazy way out.

          327. marshmil says

            Sorry I’ll now tell the truth. You are a Dumbocrat.

          328. AKLady says

            Name calling is childish.
            Most give it up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.
            Temper, temper …
            You need to practice more, you have not yet gotten the adult part down.

          329. usmcltc says

            You may not be a Democrat, but you sure respond like one.

          330. marshmil says

            Ha ha ha ha ha! more of your rubber stamp blah, blah, blah blah defensive same song, second verse, a little bit louder and a whole lot worse! AKLady if you actually do have the academic credentials you say you do including a degree in Medicine (Medicinae Doctoris) I find it strange that you spend time here being ultra defensive. Physicians I’ve known have better things to do with their time than play gibberish games on the internet. ???

          331. AKLady says

            Save your money, one of these days you can afford to retire.

          332. marshmil says

            I AM retired and doing quite well thank you. Many thanks to the free enterprise system we have in this great Nation which collectivists are trying to destroy.

          333. AKLady says

            Every modern, industrialized country has a mixed economy.
            It is a matter of national security.
            I suggest you go back to school and repeat history class.

          334. marshmil says

            I think you mean economics class. Go tell collectivists that and see how far you get. The USA seems to have a mounting supply since November, 2008. Your general attitude here leads me to believe that you would like for the USA to be similar to the former USSR and definitely Godless. Now post your usual blah, blah, blah deflector.

          335. AKLady says

            I said what I meant. I meant what I said.

          336. marshmil says

            You failed to include one very important statement which is:
            “I did not lie!”

          337. Joy Daniels Brower says

            I suspect that you’re truly anti-American OR YOUR version of “America” is so far out in space that none of us recognizes it!

          338. AKLady says

            Your narcissistic personality disorder is showing.

          339. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Hey, since we just had about the most “narcissist” POTUS (Barry) in history, I’d say that yours was sort of a back-handed compliment!

          340. AKLady says

            The DOJ has charged Trump with discrimination over 200 times
            Begin that education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973.
            Since taking office, Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times.
            New York has charged him with money laundering.
            New York charged him with running an illegal school.
            New Jersey caught him laundering money for the mob.
            Then there is Trump’s documented lack of respect for women,

            I guess that is something to be proud of in a President,
            The rest of the world does not agree.
            Oh, and we now have Russian bombers, accompanied by fighters, flying off the coast of Alaska, That is something that has not taken place since Reagan left office.
            Your idol just restarted the Cold War.
            We have not paid for the Korean was in the 1950s
            We have no paid for the Vietnam War.
            We have not paid for the two Iraq Wars’
            We have no paid for the Afghanistan War, which is continuing.
            Out national debt is huge.
            Just how to you think Trump’s games are going to be paid for?
            DO you think we can barrow more money from China?

          341. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Do you spend ALL your time fixating on your enemies?!? I know the Dems are working feverishly to win by-elections this year and next (and raising beaucoup dinero in the process!). I guess you have your work cut out for you!! My big question, of course, is if Trump is the outlaw you detailed, why has he NEVER spent one night in the hoose-gaw? And has be paid off ALL those who brought suit against him? God, “Justice not paid is
            Justice denied!” Of course, you failed to point out that all those egregious transgressions were committed when Trump was one of YOU – i.e., a Democrat!! Gosh, is THAT why he was singled out for special attention and protection from the powers-that-be?

          342. AKLady says

            Trump was a Democrat the year he was elected?
            Since taking office, Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times.
            You are saying he is a Democrat now?

          343. Joy Daniels Brower says

            Hey, he’s a New Yorker! And he’s always had friends on both sides of the aisle (Hell, he had to in order to accomplish lots of political OKs for his vast projects, etc.). I don’t know how he voted in 2012 (maybe?? GOP??), but many others (in the GOP) distrusted him at first (and many still do!) because they know that “underneath” all that bully-pulpit stuff, he’s, at heart, a liberal – at least, the “old-fashion” kind of Democrat! He even won an NAACP award in NYC with Jesse Jackson not that many years ago! And Ivanka’s husband’s father (yes, like Chelsea’s husband’s father), the senior Kushner had a big brush with the law and, although I don’t think he went to prison (like Chelsea’s husband’s father did), he was convicted of some white-color crime and probably paid a HUGE fine. To the point: Both young Kushners had ALWAYS been registered as Democrats, so, in fact, Ivanka couldn’t even vote for her father in the NY primaries! But back to Trump himself, I don’t think he ever denied that he was a registered Democrat for years. Of course, he was DEFINITELY a Republican when he announced his candidacy in 2015!

          344. usmcltc says

            “Trump has violated the Constitution 28 times.” I have to ask that question one famous American continually keeps asking, “Why do you lie?”

          345. usmcltc says

            Critics of President Donald Trump’s executive order barring refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States say it may be unconstitutional.

            “say it may be” Get the “MAY BE”, and you use this as an example of Trump violating the Constitution.

            You failed to mention this from the same article: Legal precedent has some scholars and Trump critics worried that the Supreme Court may uphold the refugee ban because it falls within the boundaries of immigration law. In the 1972 case Kleindienst v. Mandel, the Court ruled that the White House could implement immigration restrictions if it had “facially legitimate and bona fide” reasons for doing so.

            The ban also does not explicitly mention “Islam” or “Muslims,” so it could be shielded from legal challenges arguing that it violates the Constitution’s guarantees of religious freedom and due process.

            Nice try but no blue ribbon.

          346. AKLady says

            While the ban is not explicit, Trump’s words were very explicit.
            Hence, there is well-documented “intent”.
            His actions harmed many people financially. They were stranded in foreign countries. It also denied them Constitutional Rights. The Constitution covers everyone in this country, with few exceptions — even illegals. Legal immigrants have Constitutional rights.
            His “Muslim” mistake is going to cost the U.S. a fortune in damages.

          347. usmcltc says

            Trump did not mention Islam or Muslims and you are guessing concerning intent. Can you prove Trump’s “intent” or only guess at it?

            His “Muslim” mistake is going to cost the U.S. a fortune in damages. Again, you are only guessing.
            Another poor example of Trump violating the Constitution, as only applicable from the liberals standpoint.

          348. usmcltc says

            The ban also does not explicitly mention “Islam” or “Muslims,” so it could be shielded from legal challenges arguing that it violates the Constitution’s guarantees of religious freedom and due process.

          349. AKLady says

            Trump ran his mouth, as usual.
            Trump ran his fingers, as usual,
            It will be very difficult for his Administration to keep oyt that evidence at hearing.

          350. usmcltc says

            If what a candidate says during a campaign is LEGAL proof of “intent” or even consider a “promise”, not very many member of the House or the members of the Senate would have jobs, Obama would never had been president and both Trump and Hillary would never have a chance of being president.

          351. usmcltc says

            Talk about the liberals being hypocrites! ACLU Lawyer: A Hillary Clinton Travel Ban Would Have Been Fine.

            The statutes are clear, as we’ve seen. There is no reasonable legal dispute to be made. This has been a political war from the beginning, and now the left is even beginning to admit it.

            Omar Jadwat, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, admitted to the court on Monday that if President Hillary Clinton had signed the exact same executive order banning travel from six dangerous Middle Eastern countries…why, it would have probably been just fine with the ACLU.

            In the hearing, Judge Paul Niemeyer asked, “If a different candidate had won the election and then issued this order, I gather you wouldn’t have any problem with that?”

            After some stalling on the part of Jadwat, Niemeyer rephrased the question: “We have a candidate who won the presidency – some candidate other than President Trump won the presidency and then chose to issue this particular order with whatever counsel he took. Do I understand that just in that circumstance, the executive order should be honored?”

            Astoundingly, Jadwat said, “Yes, your honor. I think in that case, it could be constitutional.”

            And people wonder what is wrong with liberals thinking! Liberal’s position: Trump issues a ban order, results – unconstitutional and Trump is a racist who should be Impeached. Hillary issues a ban order, results – that order is perfectly okay and IS constitutional. Now can anyone support the liberals on this issue?

          352. AKLady says

            Do you think that just maybe Heir Trump may have learned an important lesson? It is called keeping one’s mouth closed. I doubt that is possible for the narcissist who want to be king.

            Intent is an issue before the law. Heir Trump mouthed off far too many times – Muslims this, Muslims that …

            Oh, and by the way, all but one of the 9/11 terrorists were citizens of Saudi Arabia. The camp where they trained is still pumping out terrorists.

            Gee, why is Saudi Arabia not on the banned list???

          353. usmcltc says

            Fact: Trump is a businessman who says what he thinks, NOT a politician like Obama who says what you WANT to hear.
            I agree, Saudi Arabia SHOULD have been on the list.
            I have no problem with ANY religion, except those that believe “non-believers” should be killed. And you?

          354. AKLady says

            Trump is a legally documented bigot with a long history of racial discrimination.
            He is unfit to hold the highest office.

            The Holy Bible demands that unbelievers be killed: Deuteronomy 13:6, Deuteronomy 13: 13, Deuteronomy 17:3, 2 Chronicles 15:13, Leviticus 20:27, Matthew 15:1-9, Romans 1:20-32, and Matthew 5:42-44.

            Nowhere in the Quran did God say to kill innocent unbelievers.
            Provide proof for your claim.

          355. usmcltc says

            Any yet this “legally documented bigot with a long history of racial discrimination” still beat your honest, trustworthy, loving liberal candidate who has never done ANYTHING wrong. Laugh, laugh and laugh.

            Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” I guess that you are right, if striking off their heads doesn’t kill them.

          356. AKLady says

            “But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’” Luke 19:27

          357. usmcltc says

            But in one corner of academia, a different take has emerged: Trump can’t violate the Emoluments Clause because the clause doesn’t apply to presidents. According to this hypothesis, the Framers excluded the president from the Emoluments Clause. They failed to inform the public of this fact for unknown reasons. Indeed, the Framers’ true intention remained mostly concealed for centuries, even as president after president rejected foreign gifts as unconstitutional emoluments.

            Tillman disagrees with this interpretation, insisting that the presidency is not an “Office of Profit or Trust.” Why not? Because, he writes, the Constitution does not use the word “office” to refer to “elected federal officials,” but only to appointed federal officeholders. Therefore, the president is exempted from the clause’s restrictions.
            Again, nice try, but no blue ribbon.
            If these are your examples of Trump violating the Constitution, you are reaching for the unreachable.

          358. AKLady says

            Is that is why all those previous Presidents divested themselves of all business holdings ??? How many EC based law suits are now underway?
            Legally, Trump is probably correct. The clause does not apply to either the President or the VP. However, legality does not imply propriety. In the background there is the history of money laundering, the illegal school, the 200+ discrimination suits At this point, several state attorney generals are preparing such cases I believe the applicable term is “quo warranto”.

          359. usmcltc says

            I guess that we will let the courts decide; however, this is a poor “example” of how Trump violated the Constitution. Now, we are down to 27 times.

          360. AKLady says

            Here are a few more examples, provided by legal experts, to get you thinking …

            1. Foreign payments to Trump’s firms violate the Emoluments Clause.

            2. Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, singling out individuals for their religion and nationality

            3. First Amendment singling out individuals for their religion and nationality

            4. Due Process

            5. Habeas Corpus

            6. Family reunification rights (Obergefell v. Hodges)

            7. Eighth Amendment ( in December, Trump brazenly expressed his desire to seek to kill and torture not only terrorists, but their family members )

            8. Separation of powers (Judge Gonzako Curiel unfit Mexican).

            9. Fourteenth Amendment.

            It would be one thing if Trump merely displayed a lack of knowledge of the Constitution. Ignorance can be corrected. The problem is not just that Trump is ignorant of the Constitution; it’s that he doesn’t care.

          361. usmcltc says

            And yet, with all of this, he STILL beat Hillary and IS our President, while that liberal hero is left to enjoy her grandchildren.

          362. AKLady says

            More of the sewer is overflowing with each day that passes.

          363. usmcltc says

            It all depends on your definition of “sewer”. The fact is that liberals will NEVER approve of anything Trump does, even if it is good for the country. Why, because they have a vendetta against Trump for BEATING their Goddess, Hillary.

          364. AKLady says

            Well, people are jumping ship as their backgrounds and actions surface.
            His stated religious bigotry …
            His history of discrimination …
            Truth and fact are not a vendetta.
            Truth and fact are not about Hillary.

          365. usmcltc says

            Please do not speak of “religious bigotry, considering Obama’s love for Muslims and dislike for Jews and Christians.
            You speak of Trumps “discrimination” while you condoned Obama’s discrimination against whites. Why?
            It all depends upon your definition of “truth” and “fact”. It is obvious that liberals are engaging in a vendetta against Trump, and they have said as much.
            Hillary is an old story who suffered a tremendous defeat as a result of her actions and words. Thank God she is NOT our President furthering Obama’s liberal agenda.

          366. AKLady says

            Name one single discrimination case the DOJ has brought against Obama,
            just one?

            The Federal Court records detail over 200 brought against Trump.
            Start your education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973.

            Facts are not “vendettas”.

          367. usmcltc says

            Of course no discrimination cases were brought against Obama, as he was protected by his fellow liberals (Holder and Lynch) and the color of his skin. Anybody that even indicated that Obama was discriminatory in his actions was immediately called a “RACIST”.
            You keep hashing the same old BS, but it does NOT change the fact that Trump beat Hillary at her own game.

          368. AKLady says

            Lafayette was a very close personal friend and former aide of Washington’s. His gift was a personal one.

            Presidents starting with Andrew Jackson have sought congressional approval for the acceptance of gifts under the Emoluments Clause. If the framers did not intend for the Emoluments Clause on foreign gifts to apply to the president, they would have explicitly said so.

          369. usmcltc says

            What is it that you don’t understand about, “It doesn’t apply to the President”?

          370. AKLady says

            What you do not understand is that there are conflicting legal opinions on that issue. As stated, previous Presidents have avoided the conflict, and the appearance of “bribery”, by no accepting the gifts personally.

          371. usmcltc says

            Is it a Constitutional requirement that Presidents “avoid the conflict”?

          372. AKLady says

            Your question is off topic.
            Ethics would require avoidance of the conflict.
            It boils down to trust.
            Trump’s past does not encourage me to trust him: Money laundering, illegal businesses, huge Russian investment in his business ..

          373. usmcltc says

            Wait a minute! YOU are the one who said that Trump violated the Constitution 28 times, right? They you said that other Presidents “avoided conflict”, and I ask if “avoid the conflict” was a Constitutional requirement. A simple yes or no answer would do, but no, you bring up “ethics” and “trust” which have NOTHING to do with the Constitution.
            You do not trust Trump, as I did not trust Obama, and neither has to do with the Constitution or impeachable offenses.

          374. AKLady says

            I did not say Trump violated the Constitution 28 times.
            A legal expert at Harvard law did that.

            Trump has, and continues to violate the Emolument Clause. According to the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel in 1981, an “emolument” is any “profit or gain arising from station, office, or employment: reward, remuneration, salary… (Opinions of the Office of Legal Counsel, Vol. 5, pp. 187, 188 (1981)._).