OK Governor Will Not Remove Ten Commandments


In what promises to be a showdown for the ages, Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin says that she will not comply with a state Supreme Court ruling that orders the Ten Commandments be removed from the Capitol grounds. The ruling, which came down last week after the monument was challenged by the ACLU, says that the display is in clear violation of the Oklahoma Constitution. Fallin disagrees, and she is asking the court to reconsider their 7-2 decision.

“Oklahoma is a state where we respect the rule of law, and we will not ignore the state courts or their decisions,” said Fallin. “However, we are also a state with three co-equal branches of government.”

In addition to pressuring the court to reconsider, Fallin is seeking legislation that would allow Oklahoma citizens to vote on a constitutional amendment. If passed, residents of the state would get to decide whether or not to remove a constitutional ban on using public funds or property to promote religion. She believes that the Ten Commandments should be an exception to the rule as it provides historical context for the foundation of Western law.

Attorney General Scott Pruitt put it even more bluntly. “Quite simply,” he said, “the Oklahoma Supreme Court got it wrong.”

An Ongoing Battle

The fight over the Ten Commandments is only the latest in a series of national clashes between Christians and the left. This is a war that has been waging for decades, and the left has been remarkably successful in their attempt to secularize the country. Prayer in schools, Ten Commandments displays, Christmas decorations…they leave no stone unturned. Ashamed of America’s Christian heritage, these atheists will not be satisfied until God is whitewashed from history.

Yet after all the defeats, there are still millions of conservatives willing to stand up to the militants. At a time when it would be easy to give up and accept the worst, Christians and conservative politicians are steeling themselves for a final stand. And in some cases, that stand may require civil disobedience. It may require outright contempt of court. But for those Americans who mourn the loss of a country grounded in faith, there is no price too big to pay.

Is this a winnable war? Of course. If a ragtag army of colonialists could defeat the most powerful empire on the planet, conservatives can conquer the secular left. The question isn’t whether we can win; the question is whether we will. It will require courage, determination, and perseverance. More than anything, though, it requires an understanding of the enemy. Liberals are tricky, cowardly, and seductive; many Christians don’t even know there is a war going on. It’s up to us to spread the word and make sure everyone knows where our country is headed. Only then can we prevail.

  1. Croco Dile says

    It is perhaps odd that god didn’t provide his basic commandments to Adam and Eve or to Abraham. God choosing that particular person (Moses) and that particular time to deliver the Ten Commandments is illogical and nonsensical. If giving basic ethical laws to Adam and Eve was unnecessary, it was probably also unnecessary to provide them to Moses.

    No version of the Ten Commandments says “do not rape”, which is a glaring omission from a supposedly perfect law. There is no prohibition against assaulting people, slavery or torture ! The Commandments do not strictly say “do not lie” because “bearing false witness” only applies in a legal context.
    If the Christian god wanted people to love thy neighbour, there is no reason that would not be in the Ten Commandments.


    1. StampOutLIberals says

      Hey Mr. Clueless atheist, If you don’t believe in HIM, The Almighty Lord, The Great I AM, why do you spend so much time writing about HIM……

      1. Croco Dile says

        Other people spent their time on this issue.
        I’m just passing their knowledge on to you.
        I see, you are strogly resisting…… like the individual on the left :

        1. Forrest Jane Cline says

          Croco Dial……I rebuke and bind you and your false teaching in the name of Jesus. I come against you in the name of Jesus. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the World. Be gone from here….you worker of iniquity.

          1. Croco Dile says

            HAHAHAHAAAA……. That’s really funny !
            Thank you for making me laugh !

      2. Bar Weight says


      3. Conservative says

        Ignorance is bliss to the ignorant. The ignorant would rather rant about the Bible than read it or try to learn what it actually contains. Even the ignorant should be able to read a Bible written for children, but they have no interest in saving their own soul. It is truly sad to realize the number defying God and living miserable, bitter lives. They forfeit so much peace by considering themselves so self-righteous.

        1. Croco Dile says

          “…. Without God people can easily escape human justice. I can’t buy into that.” – message from a woman to the Atheist Community of Austin, summarizing her reasons for being a Christian.


      4. Steve Harvey says

        He does it because he has been brainwashed by other non believers that were brainwashed by others. He is to lazy or to uninterested to study the Bible for himself and spouts what others have told him.

        Christians have told him that if he doesn’t follow God he will be tortured in hell for all eternity. He doesn’t know God so he hates Him.

        I use to be the same way. My life was filled with anger at God. How could a merciful and loving God do that to people for one short lifetime of disobedience? How could He let people abuse and murder each other? How could He let people die from natural disasters?

        I finally started studying the Bible so I could better argue these things with Christians and discovered most Christians don’t even know their own Bible and I learned a few things they don’t seem to know.

        God is not a tyrant and He does not want to torture anybody (2nd Peter 3:9). Nor does He. He simply destroys the wicked (Psalm 21:9 – 10; Isaiah 5:24; Isaiah 47:14; Nahum 1: 9 &10; Malachi 4:1 – 3; 2nd Thessalonians 1:7; Revelation 18:8; Revelation 21:8). This is how He shows His mercy. If You don’t want to be in Heaven He will not force you to be. But He will not let sin rise a second time.

        People like to blame Him for all the bad things that happen in their lives but never consider that they bring them on themselves. Actions have consequences. You might do something that doesn’t hurt you but it might hurt someone you care about.

        People lie, steal and murder out of greed (Thou shalt not covet). In fact in order to break even one of the other Commandments it is necessary to break this one. But if you break even one you have broken all of them.

        “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10).

        We live in a fallen world but someday it will be changed back to a glorious one. That is what we true believers have to look forward to.

        We should pray for him.

    2. AlanWH says

      “Man Shall Not Live By Bread Alone, but by EVERY Word of YHVH.” Matthew 4:4 Try reading the rest of HIS Glorious Book, Old and New Testaments and you will find the answers to ALL the objections and questions you brought up. Shalom and Blessings from the ONE Who Loved You Enough, to DIE For YOU!

      1. Croco Dile says

        “Jesus died for your sins” (or “Jesus paid for your sins”) is a common appeal to emotion used by Christians when attempting to offer a reason to why one should accept Jesus Christ as their saviour.

        Jesus cannot die for our sins since Jesus is divine and cannot die.
        For an eternal being, dying for three days is not much of a sacrifice.
        If Jesus died in a meaningful way, it raises several theological problems. Did thetrinity only have two members for a time?

        Of course there was no Jesus since he is an invention of clever individuals for the benefit of the Roman Empire.

        1. Pamela says

          I bind you in the name of Jesus Christ. I bind your words in the name of Jesus. I pray that you get filled with the HOLY SPIRIT and can only speak in tongues Glorifying God for the next 3 days. I pray that every time you open your mouth to curse God that only weeping and repentance comes out of your mouth and heart. Selah! and Amen!

          1. Croco Dile says

            You must be one of those fundamentalists, Pamela !

        2. Steve Harvey says

          The Roman historian Tacitus (as well as his contemporary Suetonius) provides significant information about Jesus and his followers. Writing around A.D. 115, Tacitus notes that Christ was killed at the hand of Pontius Pilate while Tiberius was emperor; that Christ’s teachings had already spread to Rome; and that Christians were considered criminals and tortured in a variety of ways, including crucifixion (Annals 15:44).

          Roman government officials such as Pliny the Younger and even two Caesars, Trajan and Hadrian, wrote intriguing letters mentioning Jesus and early Christian origins. Pliny, for example, writing about A.D. 112, describes weekly gatherings of early Christians (of all ages and social classes) who met before dawn, singing and worshiping Christ as Deity, and agreeing not to sin. Pliny, who required Christians be killed unless they denied Christ and worshiped the gods and emperor, asserts that true believers would not recant (Letters X:96).

          Ancient Historians, These historians made reference to Jesus and to early Christians. Ancient pagans, Jews, and Christians wrote historic texts that mentioned Christ.

          Eusebius of Caesarea – A third century theologian who used the library in Caesarea for much of his research.

          Flavius Josephus – A first century Jewish historian who documented the Roman empire. Josephus, even wrote of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection with many eye witness accounts from even those who didn’t believe in him as being God.

          Justin Martyr – A Gentile who lived in Palestine and later became a Christian. This theologian used Greek philosophy to explain Christian doctrine.

          Philo of Alexandria – A Jewish philosopher and historian who lived in the first century.

          Tacitus – A first century Roman historian, who chronicled the lives of several emperors.

          Tertullian – An African theologian who wrote extensively in Latin. He was first to use the word trinitas to describe the Godhead.

          It’s funny how people never question the existence of Julius Cesar, or Alexander the Great when they have no more evidence for them than they do for Jesus. Show me proof that they existed from your own knowledge. For that matter show me George Washington or Napoleon Bonaparte existed outside of history books.

          Julius Africanus quotes the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18).

          Pliny the Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very ethical, and he includes a reference to the love feast and Lord’s Supper.

          The Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus’ crucifixion on the eve of Passover and the accusations against Christ of practicing sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.

          Lucian of Samosata was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them. He said that Jesus’ teachings included the brotherhood of believers, the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods. Christians lived according to Jesus’ laws, believed themselves to be immortal, and were characterized by contempt for death, voluntary self-devotion, and renunciation of material goods.

          Mara Bar-Serapion confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the Jews, and lived on in the teachings of His followers.

          Then we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that all mention Jesus.

          In fact, we can almost reconstruct the gospel just from early non-Christian sources: Jesus was called the Christ (Josephus), did “magic,” led Israel into new teachings, and was hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers believed, worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).

          There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, both in secular and biblical history. Perhaps the greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the twelve apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ. People will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die for what they know to be a lie.

          1. Croco Dile says

            Wishful thinking !
            Also FRAUD you, and other Christians, did fall for !

            Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius : No Proof of Jesus

    3. Bar Weight says

      if it was not neccessary , GOD WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT. GOD KNOWS MORE THAN YOU,,,,,,

      1. Croco Dile says

        There was nobody who “have don it”.

        The Jews entered Egypt circa 1632 B.C. At that time there were ten (10) categories of sins. Thus, the categories of sins that Moses, the Afrikan, used as the basis to formulate the so-called “Ten Commandments” already existed. The ten categories of sins in ancient Kemet (Egypt) are as follows :

        1 “General sins against people”
        2 “Crimes against a person”
        3 “Crimes against the Gods”
        4 “Crimes against the King”
        5 “Crimes against the Dead”
        6 “Crimes against animals”
        7 “Crimes against Property”
        8 “Fraud”
        9 “Faults of morals and character” (I)
        10 “Faults of morals and character” (II)

        You better study something to verify the nonsense you do believe in.

    4. Larry Miller says

      Your argument is merely a play on words and opinion. You have made a long reaching attempt to alter God’s laws. If one follows the basic teachings/instructions regarding The Ten Commandments, the other issues you referenced will be taken care of.

      1. Croco Dile says

        Then just correct what I wrote.
        It must be easy for you !

      2. Steve Harvey says

        I no longer wast much time on these people.

        They have everything they need to know God but refuse to even try, so after one or two tries I just let it go. “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you” (Matthew 7:6).

        They can’t stand a prolonged debate without starting to call names or use un-Christlike language.

        1. Croco Dile says

          It’s your sort who immedetely starts with name calling, little Steve !
          Just go through the comments to see that I’m telling the truth.

    5. buddman says

      More liberal mindless dribble

    6. Pamela says

      You are a stupid ass and dead spirit croco dile

      1. Croco Dile says

        Yes, I know that !

    7. Peatro Giorgio says

      What is it from the passage in Genesis Chapter 1 Verses 26 – 27 God created Man in his own image. Chapter 2. verses 15 the entire Chapter 3. What is about the Command thou shalt not eat of the tree of life that you fail to grasp. You may wish to read scripture slowly and deliberately. I suspect though, as most single dimensional thinking,self centered individuals you’ll certainly not comprehend the deep, to deep for you to grasp meaning of the text. “Try “

  2. MAHB001 says

    “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    Kudos to the Governor for standing up for this principle.

  3. StampOutLIberals says

    GOD BLESS Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, and Attorney General Scott Pruitt, and GOD BLESS the state of Oklahoma!!!

    1. Croco Dile says

      Abraham was right, when he foresaw how easy it would be for his seed to ensnare (BLESS) the nations of the entire world for thousands of years to come !

      How could endless generations fall for a book full of such pompous rhetoric that melts like candle wax, unable to stand the flame of even an elementary critical approach ?

      Those talented crooks from Chaldea found a great bunch of fools and have ever since that time gone about their business with infinite success.

      From :
      Biblical Religion – The Great Lie
      by Michael Kalopoulos

      1. Bar Weight says


      2. Paul454 says

        Well I see you got your education from today’s public school system! You are so far from the mark of understanding that I don’t know whether to regard you as a section 8 case or just water you!

        1. Croco Dile says

          Then it should be a cakewalk for you to refute it !
          Fire away.

      3. Jim says

        Isn’t it interesting how anyone who wishes to challenge an idea can find the most reasonable sounding arguments? You sound like one of those Communist lawyers who can argue either side of any case for their own benefit. Where did you say your benefit is in this discussion? Sounds very much like anti-american, anti-christian. I would surmise from your argument that you are a died-in-the-wool Obama supporter. Can’t wait to take control. Sorry, not in this lifetime.

        1. Croco Dile says

          A common fallacy to accuse others of something that is not true just because they did not fall for the religious fraud you did fall for.

        2. jetmagnet says

          Well, he’s right. Not all people follow hyprocrites, they use their mind and make their assesments, not based on theocracy of those that like to follow sheep, but reality.

        3. phyllisjmurphy says

          Frightening thing about humans, for the most part due to absolute ignorance and believing anything some damn lying corrupted politician tells them, the sheep form behind the glib tongued dirty shepherd and over the cliff the idiots have gone time after time, after time. God save America and God kick all the politicians in the rear. May be time for Military to take over Congress, impeach that pitiful phony perp called president who had never had a real job in his life until Chicago and Bill Ayers created their monster political Frankenstein motivated to take down America and bring Marxist Communist Doctrines forward in USA!

      4. Jimmy Quick says

        How can you still be a moron and when are you gonna die? Honestly, if it wasn’t so painful to think of where you are going to end up, it would be funny. With every word that you write, you add to your punishment.

        By the way, Jefferson actually believed that he was God. Even idiots can rise to prominence, but they still go into the ground and then find themselves standing before the real power in the universe and are powerless.

        Live like a fool, die like a fool and then is eternity. Pitiful.

        1. Croco Dile says

          An appeal to consequences is a logical fallacy in which the truth of a proposition depends on its consequences :

          If A is true, then B. B is good, therefore A is true.
          If A is true, then B. B is bad, therefore A is false.

          Appeal to consequences is a logical fallacy for the simple reason that wanting something to be true does not make it true.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            I’ve got an idea. Why not end your pitiful life today? I mean what are you good for? All you want to do is destroy others, right? I mean, you are really worthless.

            Then, once you find out that I was right, at least you will finally know the Truth. Obviously, it will be too late for you, but you have brought an end to adding to your torment.

            Are you afraid? Is that the only reason you hang around? You bring nothing of value to the discussion. Just go away.

          2. Croco Dile says

            George Carlin gave a talk about you :
            Some people are full of sh*t !

            Listen :

          3. Michael Dennewitz says

            Oh no! My little red spam lite says CrocoShit is in here!!!

        2. jetmagnet says

          If you look at how ugly, hatefilled and meanspirited baggers are. If you look at they GOD’s they worship, the wealthy, capitalism and money. When you see them want to deny healthcare, food stamps for destitute families and the poor. When you look at how they shit on the poor and leave them in the dumpster, you can see the hyprocrites are Evil and on the path to Hell.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            I’m sorry for you man. Try to get off drugs if possible, then work to pull yourself back up a human level of intelligence.

            It can all change in a day.

          2. QUASAR says

            That f****r is really messed up .

          3. nKhosi says

            Yea- like the TEAparty members that went to Furguson MO to help clean up after the riots and to buy, at full price to support the shop owners as their iocal folks were staying away. Just pure meaness!

      5. Right Truth says

        You might try reading it first. There are lots of truths that apply to a good society instead of worshiping one phrase, as you are, which becomes distorted. You don’t even have enough of an education to understand what religion coercion is? Your post is a billboard for your ignorance, you are simply a credit to yourself. Stop smoking dope.

        1. Croco Dile says

          First, I’m not smoking anything, even not tabacco.
          Second, will you read a book I can recommend ?

      6. Right Truth says

        THOMAS JEFFERSON – “a more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.” He said this!

        1. Croco Dile says

          He was wrong on a few other things also !
          On this one he was very wrong 🙂

    2. Bar Weight says


  4. Bar Weight says

    if everyone had her guts, we would win. refuse, refuse, refuse.

  5. Patrick henry says

    GOD Bless Gov Fallin, to hell with the supreme gutless court!!!!! They no longer interpet the law but now they rewrite it!!!!~

    1. Jimmy Quick says

      They are an illegal entity and congress should remove their funding and appoint a new court. Oh yes. This is allowed per the US Constitution.

      We are not required to live under tyranny so why are we allowing this to happen right under our own noses?

      1. jetmagnet says

        Baggers shit on the constitution – violate people’s rights and think all americans should abide by their religion and rules. They are not christians anyway, they’re hypocrites that use the bible for evil purposes.

        1. J_in_TX says

          Liberals are the hypocrites. Maybe you should look into the mirror when using that word. You come across as a very angry person. Must suck to be you and have to carry that much anger around all the time.

        2. Jimmy Quick says

          To start with, all humans are hypocrites on some level, so to blindly make that accusation might not have the impact you were hoping for. My guess is that you were an abused child who has never been able to get past your experiences.

          For that, I’m sorry. Humans are evil. We don’t do anything that is not self serving. Even when we help others, we are just working to mend our own damaged self esteem or to make others think that we are good people.

          The only truly selfless act I have known is when God came to the earth as a man and purposely allowed Himself to be tortured and murdered, just so that anyone who would believe, can live with Him in a place that is indescribable by human expression.

          The only difference between Christians and those who have refused the gift that God is offering is that Christians know their own shortcomings and have admitted them. Non-Christians deny their defects and work as hard as possible to hide them.

          I hope this is helpful in your journey toward sanity and health.

        3. Right Truth says

          That is a self-fulfilling prophecy you are spewing jetmagnet. Is it an absolute truth? You might want to slow down, get a 10th cup of coffee, and really think about this one before you answer?

      2. Nastasyana says

        You don’t know what tyranny is. Tyranny is my taxes supporting your Judeo christian religion in a country that by constitution says:

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

        1. Jimmy Quick says

          Funny thing. I agree in principle, but I don’t see it quit like you do. I think that the government fears God, and is paying for the silence of the Church.

          It sounds to me like you are anti-Christian and that is your prerogative. I am against any government money going to any religious establishment including liberalism.

          I am not for the anything goes mentality that has resulted from the silencing of the ministry of God fearing people.

          Most churches of today are little more than pitiful, filth ridden dens for thieves and liars, but this is the direct result of government funding just like welfare, food stamps and social security.

          All of these things are tools established by the democrat party to enslave people under the guise of charity.

          1. Nastasyana says

            You people need to understand that because I do not believe in the religion of Christianity that does not make me anti-Christian. I love the teachings of Jesus and I do believe in them. But all the rigmarole around anti gay, anti abortion anti this anti that created by the writers of the bible really turns me off.
            People who work pay for their social security. It is not welfare and even if it were, doesn’t Jesus admonish us to give to the poor? People who believe in religion should fund it and follow the teaching of Jesus to love your neighbor as yourself, etc. I don’t blame the gov for providing for its citizens. I do blame the wealthy whose greed and selfishness send American jobs overseas to exploit third world countries, that does not provide for the workers that make them rich. The CEO’s who make 300 X the lowest paid worker. “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get to heaven”.
            Would you really want to live in a country that had beggars on the street and poor houses and where children starved and were not educated?

          2. Francie26 says

            Yes, we are told to love others as ourselves, which actually says we are to love ourselves first, and only then, to love others.

          3. Michael Dennewitz says

            SHE’S A TROLL FOLKS, SHE’S A TROLL!! duhhh!

          4. Francie26 says

            Sadly, pathertic people do walk among us, and you are one of them. Poor baby! Duh!!

          5. mallen11 says

            Actually, we are to love God first but that takes a lot of Bible study and most don’t want to take the time.

          6. jetmagnet says

            Bagger thought process, think of yourself first (selfish). It’s also written in the book “highway to Hell”

          7. Jimmy Quick says

            You are fooled. God wrote the Bible and while He is perfectly willing to allow you to go your own way, in the end you are His property and you will be returned to Him and He will punish you for your impudence.

            It’s that simple. Ignore the road signs and drive yourself into a disastrous situation ending in death and destruction of you and your family.

            Americans are all guilty for having sent our jobs over seas. We bought the cheaper goods from foreign nations and empowered those nations to become dominant in the global market.

            We pray on the poor and great institutions have been established to ensure that we have a continual flow of people into our prison systems, abortion clinics and on and on. This is a big money maker for our government as the cry for more taxes and hold up the failures of society in general when the whole thing has been carefully engineered.

            Why do you fault people for making as much as they can? You do the same thing. Maybe you need to sharpen your talents a little if you are not feeling appreciated.

            I see beggars every day in the USA. Most of them want drug money and wouldn’t work an honest day if they could. You need to spend sometime with these people to find out who the really are before you hold them up as some sort of sacred cows.

            I’m sorry, your words fall hollow and baseless on the wise, but the fool will rise to them every time so I guess you should have great following in this country.

          8. Seldena says

            We do have hunger, non-educated people, beggars on the street. Where have you been?

          9. Right Truth says

            Read history… this was referring to a State endorsed religion, as in the Church of England. The 10 commandments crosses over many, many different churches and Christian faith. This is absolutely not the same thing unless your warped mind wants it to be, kook!

          10. pappadave says

            Jesus never said to “give” to the government so it could launder our money through vast bureaucracies and give what little is left to the “poor,” however.

          11. Jesus is God says

            Jesus Christ clearly stated “those who are not for me are against me”. Against in the English language connotes Anti- So, if you do not believe in Jesus and adhere to His holy commandments to govern the life that He gives you, then you truly are an AntiChrist person.

          12. Victor Archuleta says

            Nastasyana, I agree with all you say about the teachings of Jesus and the poor; about social security, the government giving to the poor, about greed causing the job and wage problem. Thank you for your clear statement on these subjects.

          13. JelliTime says

            It’s only anti stuff if you choose to see it that way. From my point of view, it’s more like profamily and prolife while the other side is antifamily and antilife..
            And the problem is not everyone who’s poor has to be. Sure there are those who may really need it, but we all know the system is corrupt and there are many more willing to take advantage of it. Here’s a video where he talks on the difference between the democrats and their social programs- who want to make the rich provide everything for the poor, encouraging people to be lazy and reliant on their government, and the republicans who are all for people standing up and actually taking care of themselves so as to better society as a whole, along with the individuals. And don’t forget that we already are a country with beggars on the street, and poor, hungry, uneducated children- they don’t just need to be taken care of- give a man a fish and he will eat for a day but teach him to fish and he will eat for a lifetime- they need to be brought out of it.

        2. Julia Sanford says

          OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. Did you miss something?

        3. DizzOU08 says

          You might want to study that Constitution again. You’re very mistaken in your interpretation, and the courts would disagree with you. That clause means there will
          Be no mandatory religion. All law is based on the Ten Commandments, they are basic human values, accepted worldwide. All religions have a God, not just Judeo Christian. This country was founded in those values, and no amount of crying will change that. Freedom of speech IS being exercised. Don’t use the Constituion when you are clueless to its meaning, makes you look like a moron.

          1. Right Truth says

            Yes, what he said. Thank you. If our schools weren’t loaded with liberals and our students were getting the whole truth it wouldnt even be questioned. This is just the middle eastern religions, who don’t build hospitals, feed the poor, or do anything but complain about our system!

          2. Croco Dile says

            A common claim by those who believe that America is a Christian nation is that United States law is somehow based on the Ten Commandments. They point primarily to the laws such as “Thou shalt not kill,” “Thou shalt not bear false witness,” and “Thou shalt not steal” to claim that these are the basis for modern law.

            In fact these sorts of laws have existed in societies throughout history, including societies which significantly predate the Old Testament. The Code of Hammurabi is a good example.
            Most of the other commandments have marginal relevance to modern American law, or none at all.

            Promoters of the Ten Commandments cherry pick the Bible. In the chapter immediately following the Ten Commandments (Exodus 21), God gives various instructions on how to properly conduct slavery, including the rules for selling one’s own daughter as a slave. There is no obvious reason why God’s instructions in Exodus 20 are moral and should be followed today, but not God’s instructions in Exodus 21. This is especially relevant considering that these laws were never called the Ten Commandments, and the real Commandments from Exodus 34 are never advocated.

          3. mallen11 says

            The Ten Commandments are not the Christian way of life since we are no longer under the Law of Moses. Too many Church Age believer are taught that but we are to live under a higher Law – the Law of Christ.

          4. jetmagnet says

            Actually, teabaggers break every rule in the bible concerning the poor and are major hyprocrites, mirror Satan and follow AYN RAND principles. This athiest teaches selfishness. The conservatives they elected are lovers of AYN RAND.

          5. mallen11 says

            Your “blanket” statement about teabaggers is as bad as you trying to put all liberals on a pedestal. It doesn’t work that way. Atheist are haters of the one true God and cannot be righteous without the power of the Holy Spirit. Christians can see both sides of the issue from evil to good; you can only see the evil side. Check it out…
            . (John 1:11-13, 3:16,3:36 5:24, 10:28-30, 14:6; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:23-26, 5:8, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 7:24-25; I Peter 1:18-19, I John 5:11-13; Gal 2:16)
            1 Corinthians 2:14….But the natural man (unbeliever) receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

          6. jetmagnet says

            You need to read the Bible more and secondly, understand it.
            Your not a christian if you vote for people who hurt the poor. That’s what teabags are for taking food out of children’s mouths and bread off the table. The bible is very clear about this type of person.

            The gop and people who vote for them bow to GODs of gold and wealth.

            The GOP is all about wealth, money and power and nothing to help americans in need.

            aren’t ashamed or embarrassed. They are so in love with their big ideas to
            remake America, they introduced them twice. Once in the House, again in the

            are some highlights of the GOP plan for America:

            11 million families, seniors and children will lose food stamps.

            35,000 children will not get Head Start.

            133,000 fewer poor families will get housing assistance.

            2 million fewer workers will receive job training and employment services.

            $1.2 billion will be cut from education. That could fund 4,500 schools and
            17,000 teachers.

            aren’t exempt from the devastating cuts. The House GOP plan turns Medicare into
            a “premium support” model that essentially replaces the guarantee of quality
            healthcare for seniors with a system of coupons. They slash services for
            seniors, including 500,000 fewer rides to doctors and grocery


            Prov. 14:31

            Anyone who oppresses the poor is insulting
            God who made them. To help the poor is to honor God.

            He who shuts his ears to the cries of
            the poor will be ignored in his own time of need.

            Tim. 6:17
            Tell those who are rich not to be proud
            and not to trust in their money, which will soon be gone, but their pride
            and trust should be in the living God who always richly gives us all we need
            for our enjoyment. 1 Tim. 6:18 Tell them to use their money to do
            good. They should be rich in good works and should give happily to those
            in need, always being ready to share with others whatever God has given them.
            1 Tim. 6:19 By doing this they will be storing up real treasure for
            themselves in heaven–it is the only safe investment for eternity! And they
            will be living a fruitful Christian life down here as well.

          7. mallen11 says

            There is something wrong with you. Please take your meds and go back to sleep.

          8. jetmagnet says

            Denying what you stand for and who you represent will be a hard sell on judgement day.

          9. pineapple says

            “Denying what you stand for and who you represent will be a hard sell on judgement day.”

            If you are an atheist, do you believe in “judgement day”?

            Your rantings are becoming delirious.

          10. mallen11 says

            You need to apply just what you said to yourself. What kind of person knows what others think or do when they don’t even know them. Are you trying to be God? There is definitely something wrong with you.

          11. pineapple says

            I am an old fart who relies on the Medicare drug plan for my drugs. Guess who got this plan implemented— a REPUBLICAN, George Bush.

            So, you are as full of s#hit as a constipated elephant.

          12. JelliTime says

            The dems are the ones hurting the poor by instituting all their social programs- encouraging people to be lazy and rely on the government. While they are a few who could use help, most just need to learn how to take care of themselves, which is what republicans want to promote, and is what will get us out of debt and back on our feet.
            In this video, he hits on a little bit of a different topic, but makes an excellent point on this difference between democrats and republicans-

          13. Croco Dile says

            Jews did not even exist at that time.
            What you are writing about is just Jewish fantasies of their nonexistent “greatness”. This is clearly a myth. The same way as all the gods.

          14. mallen11 says

            It is sad that you don’t even believe secular history about the Jews starting with Abraham.

          15. Croco Dile says

            A complete nonsense !
            No truth in this at all !

        4. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

          Gee, and then there was / is Obama standing in the way. SO why don’t YOU go remove him and yours, mine and our problem will be out of the way?? You talk BIG so now show US YOU can make that happe. For we love ACTION and we are now WAITING for you to show us you got that taken care of. OH and I will say THANK YOU in advance.

        5. Karen says

          “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” What that means is that congress cannot establish a religion that becomes a law that everyone must follow! We have the FREEDOM to follow whatever religion we want and congress can’t stop it!! We also have freedom of speech, not the “politically correct” crap the left is always spouting about! The press has the right to report the TRUTH not the watered down crap we have been getting from the left controlled media. And we do have the right to PEACEABLY assemble, just not the right to assemble a riot! As for a petition the government for a redress of grievances, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR???

        6. Michael Dennewitz says

          Oh no! ButtUgly Nastyass is back….EWWWWWW

        7. pineapple says

          “Tyranny is my taxes supporting your Judeo christian religion.”

          It was Obama who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.

          It was Obama who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new

          commemorative stamp.

          It was Obama who directed our UK

          Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim community.

          It was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to

          overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.

          It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.

      3. phyllisjmurphy says

        Oh I like that and wasn’t aware, Congress could ditz them thru funding…Contact your congressional person and most of them are pretty damn lame too!

      4. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

        Jimmy, because there are not enough of them with BALLS to stand up for us little people even though we voted their sorry asses in hopes that they would GROW some. Guess WE the PEOPLE were so wrong. That and Lord Obummer will not let that happen on his watch.

        1. Jimmy Quick says

          While I agree with your assessment of congress, I think it is important to make the effort. People need to start to become unruly and fight back against the take over of our nation by the gay-muslim.

          1. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            Just use your head about the unruly part. IF we were to get unruly that is EXACTLY what Obama WANT’S!! Gives him the reason to enact his Martial Law plan. I am quite sure you know what happens then. That is NOT a road WE the PEOPLE need to travel at this point in time. Fight back but do it the right way. I hope you have been doing this. STAY on your elected officals asses. Day in and day out. Phone, e-mail, fax if you can. Make sure your friends do the same thing. If they have a ‘Town Hall’ meeting then go to it and make you your voices heard. Have your friends do the same thing. If you can find a way then get the media involved. That is if they too are not afraid of Obummer!! I wish I knew a way to get everyone who feels the way we do and I am talking about EVERYONE. Then the media could not look the other way. Obummer could not lock up what, 10 million people?? This is what it is going to take to turn this BS around. I agree that the MUSLIM (there are some good ones but I can not tell the good from the bad) and the ILLEGALS are a major problem. I am not gay but do not see them as a major problem. Most of them do not like what Obummer stands for either. Think about it.

          2. Jimmy Quick says

            I can’t agree. The State Police caution, “when an invader comes into your home and holds you at gunpoint, then tells you to tie each other up and they tie up the last person, then they say if you stay quiet and cooperate, everything will be just fine, at that point you are dead already. You must fight with everything you know and every trick you can think of to keep form being tied up”.

            Your way is the way of death. I believe in starving Obama by cutting off all the taxes, but that is unrealistic because most people fear the IRS more than they do death.

            The only way we can get our point across now is to stage nation wide sick outs. Every Wednesday, for example, everyone just not show up. Take a sick day every week for the rest of Obama’s time in office. He wants to destroy the country. Let’s play chicken then and see how his business cronies like it.

            Also, everyone needs to stop paying their utility bills. Water, electricity, internet, everything. Send the public utility companies into a death spiral.

            We also need to set up fake gays and send them into mosques to demand that they be married by the Islamist and sue the snot out of them when this is denied. Then start media campaigns stating that Gay leaders, and name names, are at the root of this so that the beheadings can begin for real.

            It’s time to take the gloves off, because once you allow Obama to get you tied up, you are dead.

          3. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            You do realize we are on the SAME page don’t you?? I agree with what you are saying. When you said unruly I took it differently. Like riots or something. That is why I said to use your head on that part. And you ARE by how you want to go about it. Being in poor health I can’t tell the gas and electric to kiss ass.
            Not sure how many people can aford to loose this much money on sick outs. Hope they have a lot of time saved up. Also hope the boss has a sense of humor and does not lay people off or fire them for missing too much time. Especially in this economy. The LEGALS can not afford to loose their jobs with the possibility of them hiring some ILLEGALS to take your place like in Disneyland. And there they had no choice or they would not collect their benefits as per there agrement.
            If no internet we couldn’t chat 🙁 All I have to live on is my Social Security and as I got disabled early in life my check is small. The only one still alive is my son and he lives a number of states away with his wife, he drives tractor-trailer so I might get to see him 1 or 2 days a year if things are going well as his wife is disabled. She is like me that she can get around but not like when she was younger, she has MS. I have mutiple spinal injuries, torn r-rotator cuff that has been repaired two times and now torn again and diabetes. There is no one in my world as I am single and have a few friends that are still alive.
            As for the mosques and the gays. I LOVE it!!! They should come in eating a plate of bacon or some ham. Do not think they allow them to eat or touch that kind of meat as per their religion . Why use fake gays?? I would use real ones. quite sure they would help and bet they would like the money as well. As for the beheadings I don’t think Obama and his Secret Service will let them take his head.
            I thought I was the only one with a warped sense of humor. I know you are being serious but there is humor in what you are saying as well. If not there should be. I also agree you can’t trust Obama for he has nothing to loose except the possibility of him being called LORD OBUMMER. And at the rate Obummer and the DEMS are trying to change the Constitution and our ‘Rights’ WE the PEOPLE are up SHIT’S creek for sure. The crazy part is I have been trying to warn people about him for 5 years now and many have seen the changes in him but there are those who think he is still ‘The Man’. I don’t get it and NO they are NOT getting any benefits for they are still working folk. And they are not Muslims or Mexicans. The ones who have seen the light do not understand what they see in him for all of the lies etc. Maybe in time?? But EVERYONE I talk to says NO WAY for Hildabeast!!!

          4. Jimmy Quick says

            I think you miss the point. It’s all gonna go anyway. Do you follow the financial state of the world at all? The USA has fallen to #17 compared to all nations economies. Our children are quickly approaching the IQ levels of broccoli and any people who have a way out, are quietly making their plans.

            We have allowed a demon to become our leader and he is taking us all to hell. Obama is making plans to become our dictator and the balance of the government seems willing to go along for the ride. “we the people” don’t even exist in their thinking and FEMA is preparing the mass burial of over 1/3rd of the US population.

            If you still feel comfortable sitting in your home and you are prepared to take the mark of the beast when you get that knock at the door, then you are dead already.


          5. Dolores Wieland says

            Numbers USA has a lot of faxes of interest that we ca send to Congress and our reps. I’m not a US citizens but a legal permanent resident who cares how our country is being downtrodden.

          6. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            Thanks about NumbersUSA.com as I am a member and forgot to mention them. There faxes are VERY good and allow you to add extra to their faxes as well. BUT you can call as well and voice YOUR opinion. You never know what they will do with a fax. Just a idea to keep pushing their buttons. We need to get them motivated any way we can.

          7. Dolores Wieland says

            Yes, we need to bombard them.but I have a feeling it goes in one ear and out the other. At least everyone’s opinions will be floating around in Netherland” forever and maybe our great grands, etc. will see what we had to endure.

          8. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            That is why I say WE the PEOPLE need to do this. They would have a hard time saying they did not know the public felt this way or that way IF WE the PEOPLE kept it up.

          9. Dolores Wieland says

            I’m doing my part as much as possible. Sent booko amounts of petitions yesterday. Spent 15 hrs. on this

        2. Michael Dennewitz says

          One excellently trained sniper could fix most of our problems! Oh, that’s right, the HTNIC had Chris eliminated!:-(

          1. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            Snipers are VERY handy. Even if Chris is no more there are plenty of snipers to take his place. Think we could use a few to take the trash out of the White House??

    2. fearlessolotraveler says

      “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty!”~Thomas Jefferson: natural-born American, legally vetted and third President of the United States who also said: “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for people of good conscience to remain silent.”
      I also ask our God to bless Governor Fallin and protect her because NON-COMPLIANCE is the only way “We, the People” will regain our Country!!

      1. jetmagnet says

        Never happen! People are evolving and the old farts are on the way out.

        1. DizzOU08 says

          Obviously not assclown. You people will lose, as always

          1. Lightning says

            Dizz, sadly, they don’t always lose. In fact, they’re ascendant, but that doesn’t mean they’re not losers. They are, big losers.

          2. DizzOU08 says

            Lightning, we can’t, and ultimately won’t, allow their always short lived political victories beat us. The left, has endeavored to rid this country of God for ages, but, they have failed overall. If it wasn’t for God, and Godly values, they wouldn’t have their freedom to dissent. This attack has only picked up steam since the half white, half black was hired as the CEO of the America Corporation. Like always, America corrects a lot of its ills with the change of administrations.

          3. Michael Dennewitz says

            I like to refer to him as the HTNIC, Head Terrorist Nigga In Charge, and I really don’t give a shit what others think!

          4. Mark Lahti says

            Thanks for sharing that Mike. I’ve seen you use that before and was confused by what the T stood for. I usually use the same army latin tag as well but without the T.

          5. madmemere says

            Love it – -one of my son-in-law’s favorite expressions!! And, I concur.

          6. Dfm says

            Free Speech, is Free, and should never be bought. We have a brain and a mouth for a reason;)

          7. jetmagnet says

            Obama 332-206 51% to 47% Looking forward to 2016 as your party of bigots turn away millions of voters and encourage lazy dems and independents to vote against the do nothing garbage that stinks up washington and services the Koch’s of billionaires.

          8. OSAMA OBAMA says

            “the do nothing garbage that stinks up washington” Not nice shit magnet. He’s our beloved president.

          9. jetmagnet says

            He’s done a fantastic jobs. BTW what has your party done for working americans in the last 30 years? Nothing, they suck…they covet billionaires and give them taxpayer money. The garbage that stinks up washington is the Teabagger party of NOthing , worhtless pieces of shit that produce alot of hot air and blame while accomplishing nothing and getting paid for it which is immoral.
            The GOP 2016 Platform:
            VETERANS, What’s new?
            GOP hates women
            GOP hates blacks
            GOP hates
            GOP hates gays
            GOP hates the elderly
            GOP hates the poor
            hates the sick
            GOP hates the disabled
            GOP hates scientists
            GOP hates
            GOP hates school children
            GOP hates the middle class
            GOP hates veterans
            GOP hates union members
            hates anyone under 50
            GOP hates fact checkers
            Did we leave anybody out?
            …. ASIANS, Me and ALL THAT WALKS THIS EARTH…. THE GOP ARE non religious anti
            American racists and bigots!
            There You have it all. The not supreme court
            republican catholic FIVE ARE
            RACISTS and BIGOTS!

          10. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Gosh sissy boy. Don’t be so upset that God handed you a screwed up life. Try to get up on time, get down to Mc Donald’s on time! Your libTURD friends are working hard, trying to get you that $15 per hour that you don’t deserve. Get those bathrooms clean, get my Mc Order right, correct change and you just might get that UNDESERVED RAISE.

          11. Marvinas2 says

            There’s the Rules For Radicals again – when you can’t come up with a rational argument, use name-calling and ridicule. If you say those things often enough, somebody might believe them.

        2. Randy Lewis says

          This old fart can shoot a walnut off of a walnut tree at 100 yards with a revolver and a rifle. All of us will regain our country no matter what it takes. This injustice will also be rejected and the noose around the necks of the liberals gets a little tighter.

          1. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            Randy I want to commend you. I too can shoot and I cheat using my ‘red’ dot but 100 yards with a revolver?? Rifle of any type I will go 200-300 yards depending on wind and then my scope brings everything into view. ‘Red’ dot is great when dark or low light. Can’t afford one of the new ones that work in daylight. So again let me commend you. Shot well done.

          2. RMCSRET says

            Scope on a 270 gives you a real good chance of an eye shot at 500yards.

          3. jetmagnet says

            Try 1800 yds. in combat! Place Ho Chi Minh Trail operation Commando Hunt 1968

          4. RMCSRET says

            Was never at White Feathers Profiiency but in my younger days I could reach
            out, but never to that level.

          5. hangem'high says

            I’ve taken out hundreds of grasshoppers at a hundred paces with a BB gun!
            Could never bring myself to shoot a bird though, I guess that’s why I joined the Air force!

          6. jetmagnet says

            I’m impressed. I teach survival, hand to hand combat and special weapons and tactics.

          7. pineapple says

            Sounds like you could take on ISIS single handedly.

          8. oldmo says

            If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance , snow them with bullshit.

          9. hangem'high says

            “DAMN!” and to think they just let me blow up things!

          10. oldmo says

            That ain’t nothing. On time I shot a deer, leaned my gun against a tree picked up my binoculars and found him in the field of view just in time to see the bullet hit him. And that was with my Red Rider BB gun.

          11. Roger12266 says

            I like your sarcasm.

          12. Marvinas2 says

            I’d like to know where he found a Red Ryder BB gun that shot BULLETS! I spent my whole youth searching for one of those!!

          13. Roger12266 says

            Actually Daisy did manufacture a .22 rifle for a short time (2-3 years) which used a .22 cal. caseless ammunition.
            There never was a Red Ryder version of this firearm manufactured and probably never will be.

          14. Marvinas2 says

            Gee, I wasn’t aware of that piece. Must have been the one with which my mom thought I’d shoot my eye out.

          15. hangem'high says

            Greenpeace would be proud of you; you saved a tree while teaching the damn dear a lesson that would serve him for years “Don’t come around here no more!”

          16. oldmo says

            Getting awfully deep around here. Hell I can piss 10 feet.

          17. OSAMA OBAMA says

            I can make Ohillary talk the truth.

          18. Marvinas2 says

            Now that I would challenge! I didn’t think ANYONE could do that! Trey Gowdy certainly can’t!

          19. Roger12266 says

            Please give me the name of your unit, your MOS and your dates of service.
            I served in Vietnam from 1966 to 1972 as an F-4 Driver and flew many missions on the trail.

          20. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Shit magnet! LibTURDS are afraid of guns and shit their diapers at the mention of them. They also lie about their exploits!

          21. jetmagnet says

            It sounds like you shit your diaper and now i’m rubbing ot in your face!
            Did you know 60% of NRA members and gun owners are democrats.
            Guns aren’t exclusive to rightwing fruitcakes and terrorist who think Obama is after their guns, LMFAO! The gun lobby uses this to sell guns. I mean they can’t survive without doing this.

          22. OSAMA OBAMA says

            OH! who are the offended, outraged, whiners and crybabies? Oh! “Take down that flag, that cross, that statue, they offend me”. Truth is your libTURD ilk are sissies and need to be fed, diapered, protected and your women satisfied. How far did you get in your Oblame-o’s Common Core?

          23. hangem'high says

            Wrong those that do the domestic terrorism are non- NRA card holders, Atheist and progressives that are agenda oriented. The individual that murdered the black Christians in Charleston was an Atheist trying to turn blacks against the local government; it’s an attempt to exhilarate the progressive’s race war!

          24. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yeah, and Ohillary doesn’t lie.

          25. QUASAR says

            Oh hell yeah ‘ a 270′ 3006’ 7mm mag all carry up out to 500 yards with not a lot of holdover .Depends on the bullet weight of course but sighted 3 inches high at 100 yards they all are good for 500 yard shots and 500 yards is a long way off.

          26. oldmo says

            You me 500 feet don’t you ?

          27. Roger12266 says

            No, I am a gunsmith and long range target shooter (competitive) and the calibers mentioned will reach out 500 yards and further depending on the shooter. The modified .458 magnum, the .50 BMG and the .338 Lapua can easily reach out accurately beyond one mile, again, depending upon the skill of the marksman.

          28. oldmo says

            Wow, how impressive.

          29. QUASAR says

            No ‘500 yards’ they are all real flat shooting .

          30. Marvinas2 says

            Just an FYI – in the wake of WW-II, there were a number of civilian M-1 clubs, using weapons provided under contract by the Government. They did competitive shooting on a regular basis at 1000 yards.

          31. Roger12266 says

            One will find that there are still a LOT of veterans that believe the country they fought for is being turned into a Muslim cesspool by Obama.
            All it is going to take is a few more of his illegal acts of tyranny and those Veterans will show this illegal administration hat they can still fly fighters, shoot rifles, drive tanks and generally take our country back from the atheist liberals who are clueless. As the saying goes “If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything” and that is EXACTLY what the liberals have done.
            If they don’t want God in their lives and say He doesn’t exist, they can try explaining that he is non-existent to His face when they are being judged.

          32. Timothy Bunn says

            It is coming! Obomo will enact Marshall law( communism) is what he trying for USA.
            Our (Conservatives) choices are becoming narrower and clearer. He will have Americans firing on the new ifidel military he is building. No God. Obomo thinks he will become a legacy, and a President to admire.
            He is attacking the white man anyway he chooses, and the dumbo Demos., and some pseudo repubs. are helping him.
            Wait and see how the house of Obomo will suffer and fall. His wrath is sometimes slow in coming, but,”Vengeance is mine, I will repay saith the Lord” Don’t forget, we reap what we sow.
            Obomo is out to change America where the white man is out, unless they bow obedience to him.

          33. jetmagnet says

            You are fucking stupid! Go back in your cave and light up a stick of dynamite in each nostril and do the planet a favor.

          34. Roger12266 says

            Why is it that when a liberal can’t come up with an intelligent rebuttal to a statement they always resort to insult and vulgarity? Oh, that’s right, they are liberals.

          35. Marvinas2 says

            That’s straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. Rule no. 12, I think (maybe I have the numbers wrong) – When you can’t come up with a rational argument, ridicule your opponent. Obama uses it all the time. I’m sure Hillary can give yo the correct number and exact quotation – she was a close friend of Alinsky and wrote her law school thesis on him. Notice, too, that she follows that same principle.

          36. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Yup, right on cue, rants and spewage.

          37. pineapple says

            Just Sharing Some Historical Facts.

            To: Obama:


            was you who told an Islamic dinner – “I am one of you.”


            was you who on ABC News referenced – “My Muslim faith.”


            was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build

            foreign mosques.


            was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict -“I will stand with the



            was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a



            was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi king.


            was you who sat for 20 yrs in a Liberation

            Theology Church

            condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.


            was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us

            have to pay.


            was you who purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator” – from

            your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.


            was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon On The Mount while

            repeatedly referring to the ‘HOLY’ Quran.


            was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.


            was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the

            building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of

            the World Trade Center.


            was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to

            host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the WH.


            was you who ordered both Georgetown
            Univ. and Notre Dame to
            shroud all vestiges

            of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast,

            you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited adjust their decor.


            was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.


            was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.


            was you who said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to

            Muslim communities.


            was you who as an Illinois Senator were the ONLY individual who would speak in

            favor of infanticide.


            was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the

            WH, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.


            was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.


            was you who refused to condemn the Ft.

            Hood killer as an Islamic



            is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women

            throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of

            hypothetical human-rights abuses.


            was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of

            radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that

            is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.


            was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.


            was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new

            commemorative stamp.


            was you who directed our UK

            Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim



            was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to

            overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.


            was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar

            schools across our country.


            is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during



            is you who departs for Hawaii

            over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating

            in seasonal WH religious events.


            was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim

            Brotherhood to depose Egypt’s
            Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s
            strongest ally

            in North Africa; but, remain muted in your
            non-response to the Brotherhood led

            slaughter of Egyptian Christians.


            Was you who attended school in Indonesia
            where your school records listed your religion as “Islam”.


            Was you who, while living in Indonesia,
            attended the Mosque with your stepfather on Fridays.


            was you who appointed s your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett , who is a member

            of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

            It was you who allowed Valerie Jarrett, (born
            in Iran) to negotiate a secret treaty with Iran that would allow them to continue
            developing nuclear weapons without fear of further sanctions by the U.S.


            was you who freed five Muslim terrorists from GITMO without giving Congress a

            thirty day notice as required by a law that YOU signed.


            Was you who brought hordes of Muslim refugees
            to the U.S.
            to be supported by taxpayers, while ignoring Christian refugees who were being
            slaughtered by Muslims.

            It was you who approved the change in the U.S. military
            dress code to allow men to grow beards and to wear Turbans


            we really need to go on?


            you may be a lot of things; but, for certainty, you are no Christian.


            who refers to himself as: “A man of Africa”,

            is precisely the type of ‘divided loyalties” individual that our Founders

            attempted to prohibit from ascendancy to the presidency when they constructed

            our Constitution.

          38. QUASAR says

            Don’t even waste your time with that asshole jetmagnet’as for the old farts ‘i’d like to see that pile of shit come and call me one cuz he’d get a ass whoopin he would’nt forget .

          39. Randy Lewis says

            Mr. Jetmagnet. I could give you the list that you want but,based on your intellect level, I will just reveal one for you to ponder – Affirmative Action. How about one more before you get a headache. Illegal Immigration. There, that should hold your little pea brain for a while!

          40. pineapple says

            Mr. Jetmagnet should change his name to Jetmaggot.

          41. Jack says

            Its illegal aliens…not immigration…Immigration is entirely a different animal!!

          42. QUASAR says

            Either one is too much for that asshole to think about .

          43. Randy Lewis says

            Quasar, I don’t know why I even bother. Liberals, or progressives as they would like to be known, are not concerned about truth or human rights in general. These things, they contend, come from the caring arms of the government. After all, the government knows what’s best for us better than we do. The government always takes care of us. Right? Such is the mental attitude of these morons! That is not freedom to me! I might as well be put in a cage like a Guinea Pig and let my master(s) completely control my existence from life to death. I won’t give up my, or my families or my neighbors, god given and constitutional rights to be free of tyranny and injustice and I will fight to the last breath to preserve the U.S.A for my children and for god almighty!

          44. QUASAR says


        3. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

          Evolving into WHAT?? And who do they turn to when they need assistance for you know they do NOT trust their own?? Us OLD farts, that’s who!! So don’t be one of them and stand YOUR ground. Unless you are one of THEM.

          1. jetmagnet says

            Most of you peeps are taking government handouts like social welfare security or veterans benefits. You peeps take the money then blame the government for giving it to you. such MORONS!

          2. hangem'high says

            The government forced the Baby boomers in to the Social security scam, as they are doing with Obama Care. They do like giving it to people who never worked for it, those progressives are lower than Maggot chett!

          3. Marvinas2 says

            Rules for Radicals again! You get people totally dependent on the government, and then they have to follow the government’s rules or be locked up, exiled, or worse.

          4. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

            Hey Jetturd I can tell you don’t know shit. That’s why I changed your name. For the ‘TURD’ part fits. As for us who are collecting benefits and I am NOT talking welfare. You probably know much about that though. We are or got disabled and did something for our country and the people back home. Not like you who wouldn’t know what it is to serve and be there for the folks back home then come home and have some people like you spit on us. We did not ask to go there. We went where we were sent and did our job now that is something you wouldn’t understand, would you??

          5. jetmagnet says

            Do you need glasses? What’s the difference, they’re government programs you moron. I don’t receive benefits like you turds. I retired along time ago and made money off of dumb people like yourself. Who are fooled easily.

          6. jetmagnet says

            You did what job moron? I led a joint operations unit in nam, laos and cambodia all 4 years. I didn’t sit at a desk like you pickin my toes, fella. Your dumb, or you wouldn’t be supporting shitheads that hate vets, i’m talking about the GOP.

          7. pineapple says

            I paid into my social security account and my employer paid into it for forty five years.

            It is NOT a government handout!!! The money belongs to ME, and not the government!!

        4. Seldena says

          People are SINNING MORE and evolving to everything that is wrong!!

          1. fishermanswhooper says

            Do you have the names and addresses of some of those sin laden ladies, especially the pretty ones? They sound like a lot more fun than you

          2. Seldena says

            If you do not have the moral compass that lines up with God’s word then you are not facing the truth of our society and how IMMORAL it has gotten. Legalizing sin will have consequences. Do you not agree with this? I have fun in a Christian way-not the worldly way.

          3. fishermanswhooper says

            No sin to homosexuality, its part of evolution. It’s easier to embrace ignorance and hate, which is why the Bible is really the work of the devil with its embracing slavery to the point of Paul approving it and the 10 Commandments embracing it

          4. hangem'high says

            All acts against nature are sin, as the ill-informed will eventually find out, but too late, can’t wait!

          5. fishermanswhooper says

            Same sex sexual behavior is part of nature and especially necessary for humans. Individuals do not evolve, species evolve. Humans are a social species and take longer to reach reproductive maturity than any other animal. Disease, predators and famine can account for the young to become orphans, who won’t survive without someone raising them. Lesbians fit the stereotype of being found in social work, so they would be extra well fitted for raising someone elses children. And male homosexual are found in greater prevalence in younger male siblings, and tend to be found in the arts. They both take the pressure off competing for females to reproduce as well as providing value with ancillary functions. Male same sex behavior can be fluid, manifesting itself when there are no females available and the need to use it or lose it. Variability is always needed by a species to have flexibility to changes in environment. Animositiy against homosexuals is something recent, famine, disease are kept in check, threats from predators has been removed.
            In conclusion, your hatred against homosexual is an act against nature, no other animal exhibits that, you’re the one ill informed. There is hope for you if you care to look up some of the biology information I supply. Only faiths says there’s an afterlife which are devoid of facts. A forgiving God(s) would love and accept me for how I was created and I could beat the hell out of that small petty god in the Old Testament, so I’m not worried about the faith I have within myself in this life.
            BTW, Jesus lied by omission in Matthew 19:4, he failed to note God also created Turner’s Syndrome, who have just 1 sex chromosome. God also created mosaics/intersex, a famous one is Stella Walsh, a woman track star in the 1930’s.

          6. hangem'high says

            Why, thank you professor Nemo, so now that everything is on the up and up, you and your racist rainbow pod can have their day. As in the animal world they eventually become cannibalistic and their days numbered.
            God didn’t say life would be without challenges each individual with different circumstances, even in a life that is doomed from the start without the word!
            Forgiveness is freely given unless you outright deny God, then that blessing is up in the Air Just like on the earth man is in constant conflict. The same goes for your soul, our soul’s line up behind Good and Evil as in Satan and Jesus or other no one to blame but yourself, I suggest you get it right because there’s no Blaming Bush on this one!

          7. pineapple says

            I guess we should swap the bible for the Quran which condemns slavery, unless it’s Christians that are being enslaved.

          8. Jack says

            I feel sorry for you..you have just commited the unpardonable sin…you have just
            Blasphemed GODS HOLY WORD…the BIBLE!!

          9. jetmagnet says

            What’s immoral is the rightwangers and their assault on GOD”s poor people and worship the GOD of money.

          10. hangem'high says

            What’s immoral it the Millennials and illegals that take advantage of the wonderful American citizens hard work while professing to hate America While taking advantage of all opportunities handed to them!

          11. pineapple says

            The takers have outnumbered the makers.

          12. OSAMA OBAMA says


          13. Dolores Wieland says

            We’ve allowed it…it’s our own fault

          14. Randy Lewis says

            The assault on the poor is purely Democratic for the last 50 years pal! What planet are you from?

          15. jetmagnet says

            Ok, tell me which party legislated social security, medicare, medicaid and veterans benefits? Now what did republicans do for the working man? Bust unions, right to work states, cut unemployment benefits and layoff 2 million public sector jobs.
            Give me a list of GOP accomplishments the last 25yrs that helps real people not billionaires. LMAO!

          16. Mike Failla says

            which one supported the jim crow laws and the kkk? This is stupid boys, Knock it off.

          17. pineapple says

            Obama’s booming economy.

            19 Signs That American Families Are Being
            Economically Destroyed (See #16)

            Submitted by Tyler Durden
            on 04/09/2015 Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

            The systematic destruction of the American way of life is
            happening all around us, and yet most people have no idea what is happening.
            Once upon a time in America,
            if you were responsible and hardworking you could get a good paying job that
            could support a middle class lifestyle for an entire family even if you only
            had a high school education. Things weren’t perfect, but generally almost
            everyone in the entire country was able to take care of themselves without
            government assistance. We worked hard, we played hard, and our seemingly
            boundless prosperity was the envy of the entire planet. But over the past
            several decades things have completely changed. We consumed far more
            wealth than we produced, we shipped millions of good paying jobs overseas, we
            piled up the biggest mountain of debt in the history of the world, and we kept
            electing politicians that had absolutely no concern for the long-term future of
            this nation whatsoever. So now good jobs are in very short supply, we are
            drowning in an ocean of red ink, the middle class is rapidly shrinking and
            dependence on the government is at an all-time high. Even as we stand at
            the precipice of the next great economic crisis, we continue to make the same
            mistakes. In the end, all of us are going to pay a very great price for
            decades of incredibly foolish decisions. Of course a tremendous amount of
            damage has already been done. The numbers that I am about to share with
            you are staggering. The following are 19 signs that American families are
            being economically destroyed…(Look at #19)

            #1 The poorest 40 percent
            of all Americans now spend more than 50 percent of their incomes just on food and

            #2 For those Americans that
            don’t own a home, 50 percent of them spend more than a third of their incomes just on rent.

            #3 The price of school
            lunches has risen to the 3 dollar mark at many public schools across the nation.

            #4 McDonald’s “Dollar Menu
            & More” now includes items that cost as much as 5 dollars.

            #5 The price of ground beef
            has doubled since 2009.

            #6 In 1986, child care
            expenses for families with employed mothers used up 6.3 percent of all income. Today, that figure is up to 7.2 percent.

            #7 Incomes fell for the bottom 80 percent of all income earners in the United States
            during the 12 months leading up to June 2014.

            #8 At this point, more than 50 percent of all American workers bring home less
            than $30,000 a year in wages.

            #9 After adjusting for
            inflation, median household income has fallen by nearly $5,000
            since 2007.

            #10 According to the New
            York Times, the “typical American household” is now worth 36 percent less than it was worth a decade ago.

            #11 47 percent of all Americans do not put a single penny out of
            their paychecks into savings.

            #12 One survey found that 62 percent of all Americans are currently living paycheck to

            #13 According to the U.S.
            Department of Education, 33 percent of all Americans with student loans are currently
            behind on their student loan debt repayments.

            #14 According to one recent
            report, 43 million Americans currently have unpaid medical debt on
            their credit reports.

            #15 The rate of
            homeownership in the U.S.
            has been declining for seven years in a row, and it is now the lowest that it has
            been in 20 years.

            #16 For
            each of the past six years, more businesses have closed in the
            United States
            than have opened. Prior to 2008, this had
            never happened before in all of U.S.

            #17 According to the Census
            Bureau, 65 percent of all children in the United States are living in a home
            that receives some form of aid from the federal government.

            #18 If you have no debt at
            all, and you also have 10 dollars in your wallet, that you are wealthier than 25 percent of all Americans.

            #19 On top of everything
            else, the average American must work from January 1st to April 24th just to pay all federal, state
            and local taxes

          18. Roger12266 says

            One quick question with no disrespect intended, but why did you make your MOUTH so big and your HEAD so small on your avatar?

          19. hangem'high says

            If you can’t find them on your own there’s no hope for you. Look for the rainbow flag possibly at the supposable white house? Can’t wait till they decide that the White house is racist and demand to change its color!

        5. Michael Dennewitz says

          Come to Orlando. I’ll even give you my address. We’ll quickly see if you wanna mess with this OLD VIETNAM VET FART, okay?

          1. jetmagnet says

            Mickey Mouse? a vietnam vet that’s a Bagger? No sheeeeet? I was in nam and all my fellow combat vets hate fucking rightwingers and their stupid ideas. The intelligent vets who don’t like wasteful wars and bills put through congress to screw us every chance they get don’t like republicans. maybe if you had a brain the at least the size of a pea you might understand who’s for us and who the hell ain’t. As far as meeting you, anytime sweetheart!

          2. Roger12266 says

            First: YOU were never in the military or you couldn’t be as stupid as you sound.
            Second: If, by some accident, you made it into the military and were in the Nam, you wouldn’t have lasted more than a day in your unit before someone had an “accidental discharge” of their weapon and you were sent home in a body bag.
            F-4 Driver
            Vietnam 1966 – 1972

          3. jetmagnet says

            See shitheads like yourself, do this all the time. When you say your in the military, they try to ignore it. Just like you ignore reality. I’ve read bagger shit for 6 yrs, it’s always the same comeback, it’s lame and freAKIN ignorant. Most baggers put thier foot on the stool and tie the other shoe..LMFAO!

          4. Roger12266 says

            Please tell me the branch of service in which you served, your MOS, your dates of service, your service number and the number of combat operations that you (personally) were involved in.
            If you can do this (and I WILL check it out) then I will gladly apologize.

          5. hangem'high says

            That’s all the liberal progressives know how to do is insult people’s intelligence to get them to see the emperor’s new clothes, well guess what? I don’t see it! As far as screwing us and our allies, what has the ISIS chief and the Gang of eight been doing to us the last eight years? I must say; he has let us keep our heads for now?

          6. pineapple says

            So, are you saying that you are proud of the way Obama’s V.A. is now treating vets?

          7. QUASAR says

            Don’t waste your breath ‘you got about as much a chance of that loud mouth pussy jetmagnet showing up at your place as obama telling the truth ‘ thanks for serving dude .

          8. pineapple says

            Examples of Obama’s “truths.”:

            I will have the most transparent administration in history.

            The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.

            I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.

            The IRS is not targeting anyone.

            It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.

            If I had a son., he would look like Travon Martin.

            I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds
            division, conflict and cynicism”.

            You didn’t build that!

            I will restore trust in Government.

            The Cambridge
            cops acted stupidly.

            The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my

            It’s not my red line – it is the world’s red line.

            Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.

            We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto
            companies, with interest.

            I am not spying on American citizens.

            Obama Care will be good for America .

            You can keep your family doctor.

            Premiums will be lowered by $2500.

            If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.

            It’s just like shopping at Amazon.

            I knew nothing about “Fast and Furious” gunrunning to
            Mexican drug cartels.

            I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.

            I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi .

            I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country
            illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20
            years ago.

            And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (
            12-05-2013 ) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.

            And the biggest
            one of all:

            “I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and
            defend the Constitution of the United States of America

          9. QUASAR says

            Well done .

        6. RMCSRET says

          You just keep believing that baby boy.

        7. NoRINO says

          Evolving? Who’s letting you out of the cage?

        8. ricktenny says

          Howdy Jet Maggot. It’s been awhile. Being an old fart gives you a perspective on things that young farts don’t yet have. Like, We all form a very long line. Some are at the very front and ready to depart. Some are close behind and others a little farther back. But the inescapable truth is we are all in the line, even you. Yes jetmaggot, even you too will soon be an old fart and when you get there you will have the time to reflect on your life. You may even remember the idiotic picture you chose to portray yourself as. I am proud of mine. Will you be able to show your’s to your Grand Children with pride. Tell them your beliefs? Will you show them your portrait, so well thought out to portray your inner self. An old adage goes, It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and confirm the fact for all to hear.

        9. hangem'high says

          Laws against nature must go!

        10. OSAMA OBAMA says

          Hi shitmagnet!! Missed your spewage and rantings!

          1. Dolores Wieland says

            I guess that shut Jetmagnet off..Can’t come up with his unit in Nam or anything else…

      2. john robel says

        AMEN, ABSOLUTELY, we are a country FOUNDED by lawbreakers. And I am one of them. No homosexual weddings on MY FARM.

        1. The_Random_Sample says

          Who, exactly, said that you had to have a same-sex wedding on your farm?

          1. Sevenmag says

            You’re being sarcastic, right? When activist judges are confiscating and fining privately owned bakeries, to the point they go bankrupt, because they won’t bake a cake that celebrates the “marriage” of a couple of gays. It’s your conclusion they won’t commandeer your farm if you refuse to allow a couple of rump rangers to be married on your property?? Guess again!

          2. hangem'high says

            Or take away your farm because you separated two rainbow turkeys, to keep ‘em from going at it!

          3. The_Random_Sample says

            You lack coherence.

          4. stop the lieberals says

            Then they’ll put a gag order on it as well.

          5. The_Random_Sample says

            Oh, I see. You see, when I hear “farm”, I think “place where people grow crops”, or “place where people raise livestock”. I can quite honestly say that I have never heard the word “farm” and thought “Ah, yes, a place where they conduct weddings for profit.” Silly me. This place is apparently, at least in part, a wedding chapel. I must say that I agree that wedding chapels should not be able to discriminate against same-sex couples. Churches, yes, since they are protected by the First Amendment. They can still legally discriminate against anyone for any reason – including race. But for other businesses, yeah, I agree that they should not be able to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

            Of course, in 29 states, they still can. But the times, they are a-changin’.

          6. Marvinas2 says

            It’s amazing how the left can redefine its terms from those in common usage. When a religious person expresses his/her opinion on any subject, and that opinion is not the same as the opinion of a liberal, that religious opinion becomes “discriminatory”. Yet when the liberal expresses an opinion that is not in agreement with the religious community, it becomes “justice”, “constitutional right”, and the religious community is not allowed to disagree without retribution. That seems to fly in the face of “equal rights”.

          7. The_Random_Sample says

            Can you give me an example of how “the religious community is not allowed to disagree without retribution”? I don’t think anyone has been subjected to legal action simply for disagreeing with someone else’s opinion.

          8. Marvinas2 says

            Most recent example – bakery fined $130,000 and put out of business because their owners could not in good conscience participate in a same-sex union ceremony. No harm done to anyone (except maybe the couple’s feelings, and last I heard, it was not supposed to be illegal to hurt someone’s feelings). The unhappy couple could have just gone to another bakery, rather than force this one out of the business. Another one example – Christian institutions being forced to pay for employees’ abortions, even though it has been against their religion for centuries. Those who feel the need for employer-subsidized abortions (no insurance company pays for elective procedures!) could go to work for a different corporation. Another example, a little older – Catholic Charities was forced to give up its adoption services unless it was willing to provide children to same-sex couples, which it could not in good conscience do. The children in need of adoption were the only ones to suffer from that court’s decision! Again, the same-sex couples who wanted children could have gone to any other adoption agency, rather than force Catholic Charities out of the business. Examples abound of issues, strictly matters of faith-based opinion and conscience which are not tolerated by the extreme left! In fact, even the most recent Supreme Court decision legalizing and demanding recognition of same-sex unions (they cannot be called marriages, because they cannot be consummated according to that word’s legal definition) was vigorously opposed by four of the nine Supreme Court Justices, who say that this decision is totally unconstitutional and destructive of the culture. And the majority of the citizens of the majority of the States of the USA had already voted not to allow same-sex unions. It’s not just a few Christians who have their shorts in a knot over the decision.

          9. The_Random_Sample says

            “Most recent example – bakery fined $130,000 and put out of business
            because their owners could not in good conscience participate in a
            same-sex union ceremony.” Okay, there are two problems here. First, they were not being asked to participate in a same-sex wedding. They were being asked to bake a cake for the reception.

            Second, and more fundamentally, your original claim was that “”the religious community is not allowed to disagree without retribution”. You seem to be unable to distinguish between the concept of “disagreement” and “discrimination”. Businesses can be as racist as they want to be – they can disagree with the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 – with no legal consequences whatsoever. However, if that business denies service to someone based on race, it WILL be subject to legal sanctions.

            Likewise, businesses can be as anti-LGBT as they want to be. They can disagree with Lawrence v. Texas, U.S. v. Windsor, and Obergefell v. Hodges as much as they want without legal consequences. They can hand out flyers; they can publish an anti-gay manifesto on their website. There will be no legal sanctions as a result of any of this.

            However, if the business is located in a jurisdiction that has LGBT anti-discrimination laws, the business will suffer legal sanctions if it denies services, or refuses to provide its services, to people based on their sexual orientation. See how that works?

            “Christian institutions being forced to pay for employees’ abortions,
            even though it has been against their religion for centuries.” Apparently you’re unfamiliar with the Hobby Lobby case. Businesses, including “Christian Institutions”, cannot be required to do this. (Also, I’m not sure there are any businesses in America that have been around for centuries.)

            “Catholic Charities was forced to give up its adoption services unless it was willing to provide children to same-sex couples…” Not in all jurisdictions, just those that have LGBT anti-discrimination laws. Again, you have failed to understand the difference between “disagreement” and “discrimination”. I’m sure Catholic Charities still disagrees with homosexuality (although that’s a little like “disagreeing” with the Rock of Gibraltar), and they are suffering no legal sanctions as a result of that disagreement. But they cannot discriminate, and they will suffer legal consequences if they do.

            “…they cannot be called marriages, because they cannot be consummated according to that word’s legal definition…” Wrong. It is the province of the federal judiciary to say what the law is. Marbury v. Madison (1803). Since the SCOTUS has ruled that marriages of same-sex couples are now recognized in all American jurisdictions, those marriages are now part of the legal definition of marrige in the U.S.

            You claim Obergefell, “was vigorously opposed by four of the nine Supreme Court Justices, who say that this decision is totally unconstitutional and destructive of the culture.” None of the Justices said the decision was unconstitutional. Of course, they would not, since it is the province of the federal judiciary to say what the law is. Marbury v. Madison. Also, none of them said it was destructive of the culture, although Justice Alito did say that, in his opinion, the majority opinion “evidences…the deep and perhaps irremediable corruption of our legal culture’s conception of constitutional interpretation.” However, that is quite a different thing than saying the majority opinion is “destructive of the culture.”

            “the majority of the citizens of the majority of the States of the USA had already voted not to allow same-sex unions.” Yeah, before the serious swing in American public opinion had occurred. As recently as 2009, found that 57% of the American people opposed same sex marriage. However, in 2012, every single state that voted on the subject voted in favor of same-sex marriage.

            Of course, this is irrelevant. It is no more important to consider whether Americans supported or opposed same-sex marriage prior to Obergefell v. Hodges that it is to consider whether Americans supported racial secgregation of the schools before Brown v. Board of Education (they did), or whether Americans supported bans on interracial marriage before Loving v. Virginia (they did). The reason we call these things “rights” is that, in our secular constitutional republic, which protects minorities from the tyranny of the majority, they cannot be taken away by a vote of the people. If they could be taken away in this manner, then we might as well have votes on whether interracial couples, or Republicans, have the right to marry or vote.

          10. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says

            sound like you are one of the sick people that needs help

          11. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, so you consider reliance on facts to be a sign of being “sick.” That’s an interesting symptom you have there.

      3. fishermanswhooper says

        I am we the people, you’re an idol worshipper.

      4. Original Rebel says

        I’m with you! Bring it on!!!!

        1. QUASAR says

          oh yeah baby ‘it’s coming people ‘get ready cuz we are taking all the rights back and the traitors in office got one hell of a surprise coming .

          1. Original Rebel says

            It’s about time … who do these priks think they are anyway? Years ago, I used to work with a fuzz-faced lawyer who thought “political correctness” was the cat’s “meow” – I wonder what he’s thinkin’ now!!!!! I’m so glad at the time that I told him EXACTLY where that would take us.

          2. QUASAR says

            They are all bought and paid for and will sell our country out to the highest bidder .

          3. Original Rebel says

            You are absolutely correct.

      5. The_Random_Sample says

        “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
        – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

        “Christian establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.”
        – James Madison, letter to William Bradford, Jr. (1774)

        “During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”
        – James Madison, General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)

        “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the
        Church from the State.”
        – James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion”

        1. hangem'high says

          Another attack on white / Christians and Americans at least the ones that don’t hate America, and what she stands for! As far as corruption I think it seems to favor all men of all class and sex! Is their corruption in the Christen community, yes! In religion also, it runs even more rapid in those who have no morals such as the politicians and foreign governments. Progressives will never get it, neither did the English until years later!

          1. The_Random_Sample says

            So, I’m attacking white/Christians and Americans by quoting Thomas Jefferson and James Madison? You’re just hysterically funny.

          2. pineapple says

            “During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of
            Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in
            all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility
            in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”
            – James Madison, General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia (1785)

            Sounds like a description of Islam to me.

          3. The_Random_Sample says

            Islam, American right-wing wacko Christianity. Six of one…

          4. Snufy says

            So, you think that praising and serving The Lord Yahweh is whacko and misplaced just because you unknowingly serve Satan? Get your head out of that dark place and see the light before it’s too late. Try something entirely foreign to you and read the Holy Bible. It’s a great history lesson. You will see what happens to those who reject Jesus. Don’t be one of them.

          5. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, so I am unknowingly serving Satan by quoting Thomas Jefferson and James Madison? That’s just hysterically funny! Here are a few more quotes from Madison that I’m sure you will think are “satanic” as well:

            “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”
            – James Madison — 1803 letter objecting use of gov. land for churches

            “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
            – James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

            “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
            – James Madison — letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

            “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
            – James Madison — letter, 1822

            “It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation
            between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness
            as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to
            unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance
            between them, will be best guarded agst. by an entire abstinence of the Gov’t
            from interfence in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving
            public order, and protecting each sect agst. trespasses on its legal rights by
            – James Madison, “James Madison on Religious Liberty”, edited by Robert S. Alley

          6. kktex12 says

            Just keep on shaking your rebellious fist in the face of Creator God. You apparently chosen your path and a judgment you cannot come close to imagining. I pity you. The judgment you have chosen for yourself is one of unfathomable pain, horror, terror, and cruelty that will make isis look like choir boys. You have no one to blame but yourself.

          7. The_Random_Sample says

            What a remarkably fact-free response!

          8. Lynn Todd says

            unsurpastion? Was that meant as usurp or usurpations? Not making fun, just trying to understand the meaning of the paragraph.

          9. Marvinas2 says

            Now put all that in context. What they were ranting against was the practice of governments declaring national churches to which everyone had to belong. They were not condemning religion. That’s why they came to this country and wrote a Constitution which states that we all have the right to practice our own religious beliefs without the interference of the government – “…the government shall not establish a religion, NOR interfere with the FREE PRACTICE THEREOF.”

          10. The_Random_Sample says

            Right – separation of church and state, just as both Jefferson and Madison said. Just as the Supreme Court adopted that interpretation of the First Amendment in Reynolds v. U.S. (1878), and have reiterated it in over a dozen decisions since Reynolds. That’s why we have decisions like Engel v. Vitale (1961). As the Supreme Court said in Everson v. Board of Education (1947), neither the federal government nor the states may “pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another.”

          11. Dolores Wieland says

            I believe in the separation of religion and state…and I believe everyone is entitled to their own religion however right or wrong it might be.

          12. Joe T says

            Dolores W….
            Do you approve (like) Islam and Muslims who intend to kill infidels; i.e.,
            people who don’t believe in Islam?
            Best regards, Joe T

          13. Dolores Wieland says

            I believe in Jesus Christ and the Bible. I do not approve of most “so called” religions and God will take care of that when the time comes. I will not judge others

          14. pineapple says

            “Islam, American right-wing wacko Christianity. Six of one…”

            Actually, the “right-wing wacko Christianity” does not behead those who don’t worship their god. Also, they don’t perform clitorectomies on young females as Islamists do.

            The problems with Islamists can be seen as follows:

            Can’t seem to Pinpoint The Problem

            The Shoe Bomber was a

            The Beltway Snipers were Muslims

            The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim

            The underwear Bomber was a Muslim

            The USS Cole Bombers were Muslims

            The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims

            The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims

            The London Subway Bombers were Muslims

            The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims

            The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims

            The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims

            The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims

            The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims

            The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims

            The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims

            The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims

            The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims

            The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims

            The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims

            The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims

            The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims

            The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims

            The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims

            The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims

            The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

            Think of it:

            Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem

            Hindus living with Christians = No Problem

            Hindus living with Jews = No Problem

            Christians living with Shintos = No Problem

            Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem

            Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem

            Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem

            Jews living with Atheists = No Problem

            Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem

            Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem

            Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem

            Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem

            Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem

            Christians living with Jews = No Problem

            Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem

            Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem

            Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem

            Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem

            Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

            Muslims living with Hindus = Problem

            Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem

            Muslims living with Christians = Problem

            Muslims living with Jews = Problem

            Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem

            Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem

            Muslims living with Shintos = Problem

            Muslims living with Atheists = Problem


            They’re not happy in Gaza

            They’re not happy in Egypt

            They’re not happy in Libya

            They’re not happy in Morocco

            They’re not happy in Iran

            They’re not happy in Iraq

            They’re not happy in Yemen

            They’re not happy in Afghanistan

            They’re not happy in Pakistan

            They’re not happy in Syria

            They’re not happy in Lebanon

            They’re not happy in Nigeria

            They’re not happy in Kenya

            They’re not happy in Sudan

            ******** So, where are they happy? **********

            They’re happy in Australia

            They’re happy in England

            They’re happy in Belgium

            They’re happy in France

            They’re happy in Italy

            They’re happy in Germany

            They’re happy in Sweden

            They’re happy in the USA & Canada

            They’re happy in Norway & India

            They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do
            they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves, THEY

            And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the
            countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will
            get hammered!











            Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

            Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

            Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION


            Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

            Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

            AND A LOT MORE!

            And We just can’t figure out who’s causing the problem. Of course,
            we believe

            in tolerance of and
            respect for other religions, but NOT when that religion’s stated

            purpose includes
            killing us for no other reason than that we have a different religion.

            DUH!!! We are committing cultural suicide by not dealing with this.
            Wake up or

            our grandchildren are
            going to live in a HELL ON EARTH.

          15. The_Random_Sample says

            Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.
            Dylann Roof is a Christian.
            Larry McQuilliams was a Christian
            Scott Roeder is a Christian
            Anders Behring Breivik is a Christian
            Charles Barbee is a Christian
            Robert Berry is a Christian
            Jay Merelle is a Christian
            Eric Robert Rudolph is a Christian

            The Ku Klux Klan is a Christian terror group
            The Aryan Brotherhood is a Christian terror group
            The American Nazi Party is a Christian terror group.
            The Phineas Priesthood is a Christian terror group
            Hutaree is a Christian terror group.
            The Order is a Christian terror group
            The Lord’s Resistance Army is a Christian terror group
            The Army of God is a Christian terror group
            The Covenant is a Christian terror group
            The Sword is a Christian terror group
            The Arm of the Lord is a Christian terror group
            Defensive Action is a Christian terror group
            The Montana Freemen is a Christian terror group

            And that’s not all of them. Many of these groups believe that, by committing horrific acts of violence, they will be hastening the End Times, thereby bringing about hell on Earth, followed, they believe, by Jesus’ second coming.

            Funny how religious beliefs seem to give rise to violence.

          16. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Prove your rantings

          17. The_Random_Sample says

            Sure, after pineapple “proves” his.

          18. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Urine sample… What pineapple said.

          19. stop the lieberals says

            You are a least putting christianity on the spot by using the quotes of great men.
            And you know as well as anyone the purpose behind the quotes.
            Your use of them is twisted and YES an attack.

          20. The_Random_Sample says

            Yeah, well, the truth is often painful.

          21. stop the lieberals says

            If you tell the truth i’ll let you know.

          22. The_Random_Sample says

            All the quotes were accurate. Separation of church and state is a key element of American Constitutional law, per the intent of the Founding Fathers, and thank goodness for that. These are all facts, except for the “thank goodness” part. That was a value judgment.

          23. stop the lieberals says

            No doubt the quotes are authentic. It’s your use of them that insults the founders.

          24. The_Random_Sample says

            How can accurate quotes of historic figures be an insult to those figures? This is what they said, and it is relevant to the subject of this article. The Founding Fathers believed in separation of church and state. I’m sorry if that upsets you. (Okay, honestly, I’m not sorry.)

          25. stop the lieberals says

            You used the quotes to bash Christianity as a faith and Christians as followers.
            the intent behind what they said was not as you present them.
            If you said you were pro ISIS I would not be surprised.

          26. The_Random_Sample says

            “the intent behind what they said was not as you present them.” I did not misquote anyone. Are you aware of some “secret meaning” to these statements that is different from their clear, overt meaning? If so, how did you acquire this knowledge regarding their “secret meaning”? (BTW, “secret meanings” obtained through telepathy do not count.)

            Actually, I find the beliefs of Islam even more repugnant than those of right-wing wacko Christians. Similar, but Muslims have no yet abandoned stoning adulterers, throwing gays off the tops of buildings, etc. Right wing wacko Christians just want to retain the “right” to refuse to hire LGBT’s, to fire them once they come out, to deny housing to them, to refuse to serve them in private businesses, and to refuse them the right to marry.

          27. stop the lieberals says

            Thomas Jefferson was a religious man and believed in God.
            However he was completely against a church run government as much as he was against a government run church.
            The right wing wacko Christians you refer to are not trying to run any government but they are also not willing to have LGBT or anyone else dictate to them how to practice their religion.
            Four cops are under law suit in San Francisco because they threatened to arrest a man who displayed a sign stating John 3:16 in front of cameras at a ball game, violating his First Ammendment rights.
            Is that the kind of country you want to live in, a country that tells you how to practice your religious beliefs, when where and how you may do so?

          28. The_Random_Sample says

            As you are probably also aware, Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, not a Christian.

            “they are also not willing to have LGBT or anyone else dictate to them how to practice their religion.” No one is telling them how to practice their religion. News flash – a bakery is not a church. No one is telling people which church they can, or cannot, go to. No one is telling them what they should do, or should not do, short of human sacrifice, in their churches. As you may or may not be aware, it is still legal for churches that oppose interracial marriage to refuse to perform interracial marriages. However, bakers who have religious objections to interracial marriage are required to provide cakes to interracial couples pursuant to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

            Based upon what I read about the harassment of the fellow in San Francisco, it appears to me that the actions of the police were clearly unconstitutional. Police do illegal things from time to time, you know. Sometimes they arrest people for no good reason, and then kill them. All we can do is try to take appropriate action in court to try to make those police officers responsible for the illegal acts answer for their crimes, and to deter other police officers from engaging in similar activities in the future.

          29. stop the lieberals says

            Notice I said believed in God not Christian.
            deism Translate Button
            [dee-iz-uh m]
            belief in the existence of a God on the evidence of reason and nature only, with rejection of supernatural revelation (distinguished from theism ).

          30. The_Random_Sample says

            Indeed. This is why I said “As you are probably also aware…”

          31. stop the lieberals says

            The man was highly intellectual, today he would probably be in the top 10% membership of MENSA.
            He understood natural law which is what led him to know that God existed.
            Whether or not he believed in Jesus Christ is immaterial.
            The fact that he believed that every and all individuals had the right to belive and practice their faith as they saw fit is what is important.

          32. The_Random_Sample says

            You seem to think you are arguing with me.

          33. stop the lieberals says

            “a bakery is not a church. No one is telling people which church they can, or cannot, go to. No one is telling them what they should do, or should not do”

            Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the
            free exercise thereof;

            Where in that section of the 1st Ammendment does it say anything about a boat, church, farm, pizzeria or florist.
            The 1st Ammendment was written to.protect INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, that includes their belief system that they have the right not to participate or support, in any form or fashion in, a gay wedding, as they understand homosexuality as a sin and choose not to violate their religious beliefs, “free exercise therof”.

          34. The_Random_Sample says

            Both sides are pretty hateful. Only one side has the law on their side – the same-sex couple in 21 states, the baker in 29 states. (It is also perfectly legal to discriminate against LGBT’s in employment and housing in 29 states. I find that pretty hateful.)

            Sorry – baking a cake is not an exercise of religion. I don’t think the Supreme Court will think so, either, if the issue ever comes before them.

            The Civil Rights Act of 1964 has the same effect on people who are opposed to interracial marriages due to their religious beliefs. Do you oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or do you think that a baker who opposes interracial marriages should be allowed to refuse to make a cake for an interracial couple?

          35. stop the lieberals says

            “You seem to think you are arguing with me”

          36. The_Random_Sample says

            No, I seem to think I’m asking you a question.

          37. stop the lieberals says

            The objection to Inter-racial marriages and services provision or not do not fall under the rights granted under religious protections of the 1st Amendment.
            As far as I know there is nothing in the bible or any other religious text that frowns on interracial marriages but they do frown on homosexuality.

          38. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, so in order to be protected under the First Amendment, a belief has to be based on a particular passage in the Bible or other religious text? Do you have a citation to a case that says this? I am pretty sure there is no such case, but I could be mistaken.

            The Supreme Court’s opinion in Loving v. Virginia (1967) included an excerpt from the decision of the state judge in Virginia who convicted the Lovings of violating Virginia’s anti-miscegenation laws. The quote is as follows:

            “Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”

            Religious rights restoration acts typically require only that an individual’s religious belief be “sincere” and “deeply-held”. Harry Truman believed that interracial marriage was inconsistent with the Bible. Pastor Donny Reagan of Tennessee’s Happy Valley Church of Jesus Christ opposes interracial marriage, although he says “some of the finest people I ever met in my life was some of them colored people.” His is one of a number of churches based on the beliefs of William Branham, who died in 1965. I would also refer you to:


            Why don’t these sincere, deeply held beliefs merit the same protection as the beliefs of Christians who want to deny service to LGBT’s in general and same-sex couples in particular?

          39. OSAMA OBAMA says

            You twats forget about “we refuse the right to refuse service to anyone” But then, that’s just another “right” we have eliminated….which one is next?

          40. lieberalschism says

            Wow, where did that come from?
            Hope you’re not grouping me with him.
            You and I have pretty much been in conservative agreement and never had a problem before, hope we’re not having one now.

          41. OSAMA OBAMA says

            NO SIR! My post was directed at all of the Constitution shredders that pick and choose which Amendments fit THEIR agenda, and the majority of Americans be damned. My bad!!

          42. lieberalschism says

            Good! I’m glad I asked before I jumped. 🙂
            Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy twat as much as the next guy. Lmao

          43. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Gasp!! OMG!! A (Gasp), heterosexual??? The horror!!!!

          44. lieberalschism says

            Will that make me eligible for the Medal of courage?

          45. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Of course! This is The New America. Everybody gets a medal!! Medal of Courage, Nobel Peace Prize, trophies…Congratulations on being NORMAL!

          46. Dolores Wieland says

            Haha1 U R funny sometimes….I agree with you though

          47. pineapple says

            The founding fathers believed in separation of church and state, but we are asked to submit to sharia law by the Muslim-in-chief, Barack Insane Ovomit and his minions.

          48. The_Random_Sample says

            You think Obama is a Muslim? I see – you’re delusional. There are medications you can take for that.

          49. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Except when S.F. Airport spends tax dollars for a muSLIME prayer room.

          50. The_Random_Sample says

            You seem to be assuming the San Francisco International Airport is owned by the government. Is it?

          51. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Owned by the city,ergo government. If you want to argue semantics, go elsewhere.

          52. The_Random_Sample says

            As you can see from my later response, I was asking because I did not know. I dug up the info, and posted an extensive comment about it.

          53. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, well, I dug it up. It is owned by the City and County of San Francisco, although between 1999 and 2004 it was operated by the city-owned SFO Enterprises, Inc.

            Assuming it does actually have a Muslim prayer room (I didn’t check), then I would object to it as a violation of the separation of church and state. The city and county would probably argue that it promotes the smooth flow of traffic in the airport by giving Muslims a place where they can go and perform their daily prayers without being in the middle of everyone else who is trying to come go to the planes. I’m not sure how a court would rule on it, but I would oppose it.

            Interestingly, when I was a student at the University of Arizona, I was involved in student government, and was therefore involved with most of the student clubs and organizations on campus. The rule that was applied to religious campus organizations was that the Student Union and other buildings on campus had to be made available to all religious organizations equally. This was completely consistent with rulings on school prayer,since those decisions protect the right of students to pray in school; the only thing they prohibit is school-sponsored school prayer. That seems like a reasonable approach to me.

          54. Jack says

            I’m sorry but no where in the constitution of the U.S. is the separation of church and state!!

          55. The_Random_Sample says

            No, it was just explained by James Madison (the author of the First Amendment) and Thomas Jefferson that this was the intent of the Framers of the Bill of Rights. This interpretation was specifically adopted by the U.S. Supreme Court in Reynolds v. U.S. (1878), and this interpretation has been reiterated over a dozen times by the Supreme Court since that time, not the least of which was Engel v. Vitale (1961). My favorite quote is actually from Everson v. Board of Education (1947), in which the Supreme Court noted that neither the federal government nor the individual states may:

            …pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one
            religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go
            to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to
            profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be
            punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for
            church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or
            small, can be levied to support any religious activities or
            institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may
            adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal
            Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any
            religious organizations or groups, and vice versa. In the words of
            Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was
            intended to erect “a wall of separation between church and State.” Reynolds v. United States, supra, at 164.

          56. kktex12 says

            Cherry picked statements taken out of context is twisting, manipulative and destroys your credibility. Not that you had any in the first place.

          57. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, so why don’t you provide us with the context? Tell us how I took the statements out of context. I look forward to being educated.

          58. kktex12 says

            Not really. You are a communist one word government piece of snake sh-t!

          59. The_Random_Sample says

            Ah, I see, you have reached those conclusions because absolutely nothing I said supported that conclusion. Funny stuff!

        2. Snufy says

          Bullshit! Where did you come up with those writings?
          The first commandment says,” Thou shall have no other gods before me.” What god do you serve? It sure isn’t The Lord in Heaven.
          God bless Texas! (And Oklahoma)

          1. The_Random_Sample says

            The First Commandment is, by virtue of the First Amendment, irrelevant in debates regarding legal matters in the U.S. – and thank goodness (and Thomas Jefferson and James Madison) for that.

            All of the quotes are accurate. They are easy enough to check – Google is your friend. I’m sorry that you disagree with our founding fathers at such a fundamental level. You know, I understand both Riyadh and Tehran are very nice this time of year.

      6. Mike Failla says

        Well put and accurate. A call to arms as it were!

      7. Spark1845 says

        VERY NICE. AND, right on. WE may have to do it ourselves. They say it’s what the EVIL ONE, obama wants so he can declare Martial Law. I think those soldiers, sheriff, policemen and others will go against him. Maybe WE can ride his black ass out of OUR country???????????????? Wouldn’t that be nice?? He is a PUNK. PERIOD. A TYRANT LYING DOG.

      8. azabigail says

        Amen, I’m in agreement with your prayers.

    3. jetmagnet says

      Then ten commandments deserves a better place, not in people’s face.
      Why not a budda or a satanic pendagram? It seems baggers only believe in the constitution when it serves their interest or religion, not the rest of americans. Just like the confederate flag, a symbol of hate and slavery, they like to fly that one also!

      1. J_in_TX says

        Another clueless liberal with no knowledge of the real cause of the Civil War (hint: it wasn’t slavery). Learn some history.

      2. azsequaya says

        “Pendagram”???? ,, That shows your leftist , Liberal, LACK of intelligence !!!

      3. mac12sam12 says

        You keep saying baggers, is that your job at the grocery store?

        1. QUASAR says

          HAHAH ‘Yeah he’s a bag boy at the grocery store and a wanna be warrior in his spare time ‘GOD what a douche.

      4. Right Truth says

        “Though shall not kill ” ? I am pretty happy with that being in people face these days 🙂

        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          Hey jet mag, just out of curiosity, are you a fag???

    4. J_in_TX says

      Read the article. The ruling came from the state supreme court.

      1. DizzOU08 says

        Doesn’t matter. The state Supreme Court is not an article 3 court. Christianity is the basis of all common law. You people will always lose this battle. In God We Trust

        1. J_in_TX says

          Not sure who you are referring to when you say “you people”, but it isn’t me.

    5. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

      Patrick I agree but you do know there is no Supreme Court. It is now OBUMMER COURT for he does not care about anything or anyone unless you are MUSLIM, ILLEGAL (like he is), brother Al Sharpton and the rest of the Dems who love him. They just do not understand that when he is Lord Obummer they too will mean nothing to him. It is almost like he has enacted his Martial Law plan. Just LOOK at ALL the TANKS that have been sent to Texas. I think even the Devil fears his sorry ass!!

    6. ChiefBoring says

      Does this court not know the Ten Commandments grace the Supreme Court Building? They are the basis of common law, along with the code of Hammurabl.

      1. fishermanswhooper says

        Why are you a liar? Is it because you’re committing the sin of idol worshipping?

  6. Forrest Jane Cline says


  7. Gerald A. Reason says

    Perhaps our churches are not presenting the whole story. This is something the Bible said would come to pass — His people, both Jews and Christians, will be persecuted for His sake. We have, as a “Christian Nation,” been so complacent in our freedom that we have actually taken God for granted. We have turned from seeking the Kingdom of God to seeking the blessings of God. We are, for the most part, seeking the creations rather than the Creator. Our nation was founded on Christian Principals. When our founding fathers referred to “religion” they were considering, what we today call “denomination.” What they were referring to when they wrote the establishment clause, was that the government could not create a state church which dictated the way we worship, as England had done with the Church of England. Our courts have misinterpreted this to mean, not mentioning God in any governmental activity. People tend to support this idea because we, the Christians, have not shown the Love of God in our behavior, only the love of things. We speak love with our lips. We speak obedience with our lips. But, like most politicians, our actions do not match our talk. We have brought this on ourselves and the only way it will ever be changed is for the Christian to follow the directions given to Israel in 2 Chronicles 7:14.

  8. Jackie says

    Great to hear Oklahoma! People need the Ten Commandments to remind them what God expects from us as human beings.

    1. fishermanswhooper says

      Great! I want to own some slaves like in the 10th commandment!
      BTW, Jackie, if you have any great grandparents, grandparnets or parents who are bastards, might as well skip over everything, you’ll be paying for sins of the fathers. Funny how they leave that out, but I figure you don’t read your Bible.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Just curious troll. How do you get slaves out of the 10th commandment?

        Have you even read them? Or are you just reading from your controllers script?

        1. fishermanswhooper says

          servant= slave, and that idol that you are worshipping leaves out the word A-s-s. Fundy 10 Commandments garbage is a bit different than the Lutheran 10 Commandments catechism, Fundytards act like their idol mean something.
          I’ve learned a long time ago you guys think honor your mother means knocking boots with her.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Socialism = slavery.

            If you were not fighting for socialism (liberals) you would not be so hypocritical.

            But then again, your bigotry blinds you to facts.

          2. hangem'high says

            A man without God It’s like a man that has no future and nowhere to go but in the toilet and flushed down to where he can get some respect along with the ISIS and Taliban monsters. That’s when they all realize they’re all related to one another! There’s old saying “There are no atheist in the fox hole!” think about it heathen?

          3. fishermanswhooper says

            son, having incoherent thoughts & lame slogans is no way to go through life.

          4. hangem'high says

            Considering I’m at the end of mine!
            A man that gets his education on Christians and God through Hollywood’s interpolation of them deserves to share their bed with “Em!
            Not all Christian are saints, not all saints are Christian but being a good father or mother is a start!
            God Bless any man that stands up to the devil.

      2. hangem'high says

        You can’t own any Slaves if you are one, as the progressives believe that the Darwin monkeys aren’t created equal. If you haven’t finished college you can’t even run for congress without first being brain washed, graduating to a suited Orangutan!

  9. Sue Holt says

    Please don’t take the laws of God down in Oklahoma. . What are we going to do with out

    him in our lives? I don’t go to church{ for my own reasons} But I truly believe in God, Jesus and heaven and some day hope to go their and talk with them . Just what do some people have against him? That he did’nt give them every thing they wanted? So what. Get a job and work for what you want just like I and millions of others do. Way to go Governor Mary Fallin and dont give in, I and millions of others are behind you. God Bless You

    1. fearlessolotraveler says

      Sue, no offense but you’re wasting your time pleading with the devil! That monster is beyond conscience or pity!! The Enemy of all humanity has a “Plan” and he utilizes every “useless idiot” at his disposal to bring that Plan to pass.
      For example: Josef Stalin, a war criminal and mass murderer reportedly instructed his followers to continue the onslaught against our beautiful country when he said:

      “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: It’s Patriotism, it’s Morality and its SPIRITUAL life. If WE can undermine these three areas, America WILL collapse from within.” This is Marxism/Communism at its finest!
      Oh! And don’t forget Saul Alinsky and his “How To Create A Socialist State” when he wrote: “REMOVE the belief in God from the government and schools.”

      As I see it, this government NEVER HAS HAD a “belief in God” so they began dictating the removal of that belief from each State, via corrupt and conscienceless politicians carefully installed in city and state governments. Think about that…

      1. hangem'high says

        Like I’ve been saying; all that needs to happen is for the baby boomers to be outnumbered/ die off and the country goes completely progressive. All conservatives and Christians that are left will have to go underground!

  10. Sandy Tankoos says

    I am not secular, I am religious, but there should be a separation between church and state. The 10 Commandments belong in houses of worship or in a person’s home, not in a public environment.

    1. Jimmy Quick says

      So, your opinion then belongs in your house, only until someone comes and puts cameras inside and instructs you that your opinion had better match the official opinion of the state or you will be removed for reeducation.

      Until that happens, this is a public forum, a place for open discussion just like the public square. Under your proposed tyranny, we all have no voice and you certainly are not a Christian because God has commanded His people to spread His Word throughout all the ends of the earth.

      So, while you may consider yourself to be “religious”, you certainly don’t know much about God or about life in general.

      1. headonstraight says

        Your first paragraph is absurd and irrelevant–apples and oranges, or more like watermelons and chickpeas.

        Your right to participate in a public forum is not under siege and there is no demand from the state that you silence your personal voice. But under the First Amendment the State’s “voice” may not be used to advance a particular religious belief system over others, something you and other wingers have a hard time understanding, but it is a fact. The Ten Commandments display that the Supreme Court allowed to remain in Texas was part of a larger display that included numerous other religious and historical displays, and the Court has previously ruled that such displays are constitutionally permissible. The Oklahoma display contains no such diverse items; it singularly promotes a Judeo-Christian belief system.

        Something of a precedent for this case is the attempt by the absurd posturing theocrat, Judge Roy Moore, to install a massive stone 10-Commandments monument in the Judicial Building in Montgomery, Alabama. Lower courts had observed that Moore could have legally placed that monument along with other items documenting the religious and secular history of laws and law making, but he refused. His insistence on a single monument representing a particular religious belief system, together with his refusal to obey a court order for its removal, resulted in HIS removal from office by a judicial review board composed of Alabamians who could by no means be described as “liberals.”

        Proponents of 10-Commandments displays often assert that the 10 Commandments on are display on the U.S. Supreme Court’s own building in Washington, D.C.and that therefore that Court is hypocritical in demanding that such displays be removed from other public buildings. Such a charge is ignorant and bogus. The displays at the Supreme Court Building include a plaque showing two stone tables with Roman numerals I through X, but no wording. That item is only one of several items on that building documenting the history of laws and law making. Thus that display is in no way inconsistent with established judicial precedent,

        I, like Sandy, above, am a Christian, have been one for 63 years, and I am a member of a conservative evangelical church. That in no way prevents me from intelligent consideration of the FACTS and issues involved in this kind of dispute, and I submit that the Governor of Oklahoma is on the same shaky ground that gave way under Judge Moore. She will not be removed from office, but that 10-Commandments display will not stand.

        1. Jimmy Quick says

          So, can you say “obfuscation”? Actually, you can write as much blather as you want. I am not fooled or intimidated. The bottom line is that you want to infringe on my rights of expression, and public redress and I don’t like it.

          In fact, I would rather take up arms than sit idly while you and those like you destroy our nation.

    2. nKhosi says

      The state is prohibited from intervention in affairs of churches, Christians are to be fully involved as citizens and as members of the elected leadership of our communities- local, state & federal. Since being a Christian means believers SHOULD BE becoming more like Jesus every moment, everything they do should bring honor and glory to the Lord God~ Creator of Heaven and Earth- if everything a Christian does meets these goals, there will be a sea change in how America is perceived by its own citizenry, believers or not and by the rest of the world – we are to ‘love the Lord our God with all of our heart, mind, soul and strength AND to love our neighbors as ourselves.’ Apply the Golden Rule all the time! Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. NOT DO IT TO THEM FIRST!! LOVE enough to lay down your life.

    3. Jack says

      Back In Thomas Jefferson’s day they held worship services in the Capitol Rotunda Every Sunday, and prayed in congress right before they started their daily lawmaking, asking GOD to direct their paths and to give them wisdom for the laws of this nation. In which they do neither at present in this day in age…to bad this country has lost its way…and GOD will not bless this nation as long as this immoral society continues on its present path!!

  11. Robert L. Rice says

    Why doesn’t our so called Government JUST SHUT THE F__K UP???

  12. MILES E DRAKE says

    This is further encouraging evidence that state nullification of federal dictatorship is beginning, and may save us from having to find a Franco or a Pinochet to stop a communist takeover. Nullification eventually failed because of Andrew Jackson, the Julius Caesar of his day and the man who started the country’s slow evolution into an authoritarian presidential “republic”. The party of Andrew Jackson and Harry Truman is now the party of Michael Jackson and Truman Capote, so those who believe in the validity of the Constitution may this time be able to win.

  13. syntex1@comcast.net says

    Your a good person Governor, God bless and keep all in your thoughts

  14. steve says

    We have to stand up to the ACLU and the left , the ten commandments and the Confederate flag we have to stop them now if they don’t like this country leave find someplace else it screw up . For 239 years the dems. Have hated this country we will not change but you can leave

  15. Debbie says

    Thank You For standing up for what’s right.

  16. Rock J. Dueck says

    Even if they were not the words of God, they promote a good outline that even the non-believers can benefit from. They are also the base for our basic laws of co-existance.

  17. The Hawk says

    Good for you Governor hang tough.

  18. Richard Magnuson says

    To think our laws are founded on the 10 Commandments yet these reprobate judges who administer the law say we cannot acknowledge the very laws that they enforce. He needs to go.

  19. DizzOU08 says

    In God We Trust. End of story.

    1. Croco Dile says

      Right !

      1. MAHB001 says

        Now Big Government is Gods fault.
        I thought you were smarter than that.

        1. Croco Dile says

          No, you are reading something I did not say.
          Big Government is the fault of the people.
          The image just points out the nonsensical meaning of the phrase “In God We Trust”, nothing else.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Your little cartoon says.
            If in God we trust is on Americas money….
            Is that why America is in such bad debt?

            Indicating that you, or the cartoons author blames GOD for our Government and the Big Governments over spending.

            I agree with you that Big Government is the fault of the people. The fault of the people that trusted liars and thieves.

            Beyond that fault ,and more important the debt the fault of some very evil liars that have taken control of the Government.

            This Big Government is out of control.

          2. Croco Dile says

            You are right and I’m of the same opinion as you are.
            The money monopoly is the key in their control system.
            They literally can buy anything !

      2. hangem'high says

        “Give a fool access to your money and you’ll have a deficit!”

        1. Croco Dile says

          To a fool or to a crook (politician)…… same result.

          1. hangem'high says

            Today I agree with you Croc!

  20. Debbie says

    We have set down to long, Our fathers died for America, If Trump has done nothing else he as woke a sleeping lion. And once that lion is awake it will be heck to pay. Thank you Fallin

  21. phyllisjmurphy says

    God Bless Gov. Fallin! The Supreme court is a Supremely gutless failure in almost all decisions and since they are so eager to kick out traditions of God, Commandments, and other idiocy such as bowing to less than 5% of the population of USA, STUPID has taken over the Supreme Court, so I say, SHUT THEM DOWN and let American voters make important decisions by taking the vote to them and bring some sense and sensibility back to this failed country due to stupid self serving failed politicians! Amen!

  22. Jena Smith says

    Good for her!!!! Stand strong Governor Falin! There are more of us than there are of them.

  23. MAHB001 says

    Liberal Socialists have taken control of our court system, both political parties, the media (TV-print-on line), our schools, unions, and more.

    Time to take it back. Way to go Governor!

  24. Jon Reynolds says

    Liberals are a plague. Not happy until every God thing is gone. Bad enough we had the nations capital covered in rainbows, they have to go a step further and try to take God out of everything.

    1. MAHB001 says

      The will not stop until socialism is in the place of Capitalism.
      Unless the silent moral majority wakes up and takes notice.

      1. Jon Reynolds says

        Liberals destroying the freedoms of many and just don’t know it. The true definition of an idiot.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Actually, most Democrats are just brainwashed and hypnotized by the media. They too are asleep and probably would not agree with turning America into a socialist state.

          0bama and Hillary are Alinsky Radicals bent on destroying Capitalism, and instilling some sort of socialism in its place.
          Their socialism, will weaken the nation.
          The nation will fall to a dictator. Like a Putin, or ISIS, or the Chinese, North Koreans, etc.
          That dictator will kill all opposition to his/her rule.
          The death counts will be in the hundreds of millions…

          Sorry to rain on your day… 🙂

          We must continue to wake up the people on both sides before it is too late.

    2. fishermanswhooper says

      Conservatives are a plague. Not happy until their disguised devil is in control. Bad enough we had slave owning treasonous southerners sheet on the Constitution, now they want to install their devil everywhere.

      1. MAHB001 says

        Here is the truth troll.
        When a troll cries racism, it is only to draw attention away from their own racism.
        When a troll cries bigotry, it is only to draw attention away from their own bigotry.
        When a troll insults using the word idiot, it is only to draw attention away from their own idiocy.
        So when I read your post, you are trying to draw attention away from the fact that you will not be happy until your disguised devil is in control.

        You really need to plead with your controllers for better material. They are making you look foolish.

  25. Rose says

    The State Supreme Court knows full well the Fate of Communities, States, Nations that reject plain language that encourages members of the Community, the Society – to observe SIMPLE BONDS that BENEFIT the Community and Discourage Anarchy – that distinguishes the Society between Good Neighbors – or Dens of Robbers and Ravagers.
    Things in America are suddenly very plainly seen to be EITHER a BENEFIT to the ability of Neighbors to be a HELP to eachother – or to be PREDATORS where there is NO SAFE HARBOR, and NO BENEFIT to Helping Others as one would ever WANT OR NEED TO ALSO BE HELPED – IN KIND.
    The JOB that “JUDGES” are HIRED AS PUBLIC SERVANTS TO PERFORM is to PROMOTE the BONDS of Community TOWARDS Beneficial Service and Help one to another – NOT to leave eachother alone to be PREY for PREDATORS. The “JUDGES are NOT HIRED to disarm the community before ravaging hordes bent on Destruction.
    When “Judges” RULE UNJUSTLY for the Benefit of Predators to the DETRIMENT of the Law Abiding, THERE IS NO LAW and at that point, the “JUDGES” ARE NOT SAFER THAN THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO SERVE, and they certainly will NEVER be able to depend on the VAST MAJORITY to protect the Judges from the same RAVAGING PREDATORS which they set loose on the General Population.

    It is one thing to rule to protect a small Law-Abiding and Beneficial Minority – IT IS NEVER JUSTICE TO RULE TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE VAST MAJORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF RAVAGING PREDATORS, be they TEENSY Minorities, or sizable Minorities!

  26. MAHB001 says

    The one or two people that are offended by the Ten Commandments in Oklahoma just need to get over it and walk down the other side of the street.
    Maybe move to Iraq.

    1. Rose says

      They should go hiking in Iran, or touring in Damascus.

      1. MAHB001 says

        I doubt they would like the view… 🙂

  27. Rose says

    Frederic Bastiat: When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    “The people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government and to reform, alter, or totally change the same when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it. And the federal Constitution – according to the mode prescribed therein [Article V] – has already undergone such amendments in several parts of it as from experience has been judged necessary.” – Samuel Adams – To the Legislature of Massachusetts, January 19, 1796

  28. Observer says

    God bless Governour Fallin. It’s high time that more sane and moral people stand up to the edicts of courts and the legislative branch, who’s only preoccupation these days seems to be promoting perversion and the invasion of this country by ignorant and diseased aliens.

  29. Francie26 says

    Right is wrong. Up is down. When does this cr^p stop? We have a president who wants to destroy our country for his liberal ideals and his connection to anti-American, hard-core Muslims, and we have a supreme court that tries to write law instead of simply determining constitutionality of laws written by congress, and we have a supposedly republican congress that will not honor its promises to the American people because it has its collective nose stuck up Obama’s extremist rear, and we have gays, only 3% of the population, vindictively destroying Christian businesses to force them to deny their religious beliefs, and we have wrong being touted as right, while we have Christians being told to sit down and shut up, and we have a military being dismantled by a president who wants us to be vulnerable to nations that hate us, and we have a First Lady taking enormously expensive vacations at taxpayer expense, and we have the worst president in American history trying to run our entire government by diktat, via his phone and his pen. It’s time for real republicans to take back our country and set things straight. Sickeningly, even if republicans do regain control of our country, much of the damage that has been done is long-lasting, so it will take many years to undo what Obama has done to America.

  30. Maryanna Mooney says


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  32. jreg9304 says

    too bad but Atheist’s can go too hell.. there is a constitutional amendment that reads,(freedom of religion. also their supreme court can go eff themselves. Christ the king is looking down on the righteous, smiling and crying at the same time…

  33. Frederic Charles Hilnbrand says

    This is MORE of OBUMMERS Muslim cut throat ideals. Also what happens because he gets to TELL them what to do and say. As far as HE is conserned he IS Lord Obummer and can and will do as he pleases. I am PROUD of Gov.Fallin and Scott Pruitt for standing their guns and rights and more or less saying HELL NO!!! We need MILLIONS more like them and one less Obama in the world.

  34. downs1 says

    People get upset and argue emotionally pro and con concerning the removal of a Confederate flag which symbolizes an era, albeit a sad era in American history. At the same time, many [especially our anti-Christian, anti-Israel “President” and other mostly liberal politicians and activists] applaud the removal of the Ten Commandments and Crosses as well as “Christian” holidays from our society. The fools [“The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God'” (Psalm 14:1)] in the ACLU and other left wing organizations have sought to wage war on Judeo-Christian symbols and in effect are trying to remove God Almighty, the same God who blessed this nation, from our culture. A few people, like the governor of Oklahoma have the guts to stand up for what symbolizes the very heart of a free society. In a word, without God there is no stable, strong nation and no true freedom for its people. America is about to experience the truth of that statement! May God judge America for its great sin! And He will!

  35. Seldena says

    I really hope she takes this to the Supreme Court. They will allow this monument to stay. It is history and part of religious liberty. God Bless Mary Fallin…

  36. Robert S. Allen says

    Oklahoma’s governor had it right. Like in our US Constitution, where Article I Section 1 vests all legislative powers in the Congress. Neither the Executive nor the Judiciary have the power to make laws, as they pretend to do.

  37. William Homolka says

    Great news!! We are overdue to fight back the left’s assault on our values and traditions. These derelicts – do do birds who shit in their own nest – deserve to be defeated, shut down and shut up, and let us restore our beautiful country to its much deserved splendor. I ran across many of these idiots in my college days in the sixties. They were pathetic mama-boy morons then, but now they’re in power. Enough of this useless experiment in socialism, PC, and the “first black pResident,” who is a monumental failure. And by the way, obum isn’t black: how about 50% caucasian from mommy, 43% Arab and 7% African negro from pappy?? Check out Snopes. More BS from the left and obummer. Aren’t you sick and tired of these a-holes already? Trump, Walker, Cruz, Gowdy are waiting in the wings to correct course!

  38. Lizard says

    Why listen to anything court has to say //// Obama does as he pleases //// Thank you Fallen for standing up to American haters

  39. Peggy Sortino says

    I am proud of the Governor of Oklahoma. It is just a shame that other States do not follow his example.

  40. Lizard says

    Good Job // It’s way past time for American people to fight for whats right

  41. fishermanswhooper says

    This is the 10 Commandments of Exodus 34:14-27, right? Question: Could I be excused from eating unleavened bread? I have a gluten intolerance.

  42. Right Truth says

    Finally, a politician who has nerve and stands up for TRUTH! We are a Christian nation, founded on Christian principals, including the rule of law. This country was settled by people fleeing from religious persecution in England, and their enforcement of ONE STATE RELIGION!!! God Bless America and God Bless Mary Fallin!

  43. Dan Menard says

    It would seem that the ACLU has become the rule of the land with local and states governments running in fear of them. In reality they are nothing more then a gathering of misdirected, atheist not intent on protecting civil liberties but the destruction of all that has made our country great from its foundations. It is about time that our elected leaders stand up against these civil destructors and call them out for what they truly are; a blight to all that is traditional and good. They no longer stand for anything of American value as they push their destructive agendas.

    1. MAHB001 says

      The ACLU’s sole purpose is to use the court against American Values.
      That is an EVIL organization.

  44. MRHapla says

    Historically, one could argue that the Ten Commandments are part of the the legal construct we have today. Put up a Magna Carta, Code of Hammurabi , etc “monument ” , see the PCLibScum heads explode,,,,,,,,,,,

  45. Michael Dennewitz says

    That’s just it Patrick. I thought they were there to “interpret” laws, NOT MAKE THEM OR CHANGE THEM! Every state should totally ignore the souple court! Nothing supreme about hand picked mooselums that the THNIC assigned to persecute anything related to Christianity!!

  46. Glenn Hoopman says

    The Supreme Court controlled by liberals & corporations want to eliminate everything guaranteed to Americans’ in the Constitution. They are as anti-American as NATO! Seems as though they want all Americans’ to be dependent on the government and fall under the “One World Government” control. What is the difference between Communism and what the U.S. Government is currently doing? They seem to want most on the doles of govt. handouts to be able to control the masses. Sound familiar?? God Bless Gov. Fallin and all those who support her!!!!!!!!!

  47. jtitan241 says

    Amen for Gov. Fallin, we need more Gov’s. to challenge the Socialists and Communist’s, that have taken control of our system, they must go before we have to remove them Physically. Our children and Grand Children will be the ones who will be most affected by this Plague of idiots, Federal Judges who can not accept the Law’s must be removed. They are not Govern but obey the Law’s set forth by the People.

  48. 32eagle says

    basically, even the general public can see the blatant communism and the public has a say in it-it is time to recognize God almighty and Moses

  49. Jackie says

    Not that it is any of your business but I am a Christian and do read the Bible, often known as the Decalogue. These Commandments were given to the Israelites by God at Mount Sinai. What is your point?

  50. Flower Mound Lady says

    Thomas Jefferson was one of the smartest Presidents in our nation’s history. If we could follow his words on just about everything he has said “as Louis Armstrong said What A Wonderful World This Would Be”. “Read some of his books and see the foresight he had especially with government.

    1. MAHB001 says

      Excellent advice.
      It seems that Governor Fallin is doing just that.

      “If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.”
      Thomas Jefferson

  51. Phyllis Schultz says

    Good for her. Good luck Governor. We’re rooting for you.

  52. richardcancemi says

    Three cheers for the Governor! He can be to nucleus of a resistance that is long overdue. Let us stop being sheep.

  53. nmasterson says

    Every living person should follow the 10 comandmants regardless of religion. The 10 comandmants show what standards we should live by.

  54. Scott Campbell says

    Not all conservatives are theists. I am an atheist. Religion has NO place in government. Religion is as arrogant as possible. Religions want the entire world to submit to their idea. This is not any different than what muslims want. Christains want everyone to be controlled by their religion and muslims want everyone to be controlled by their religion.

  55. onefour says

    When religion leaves a country so does democracy and anarchy prevails. Stick to your guns Govenmor

  56. Standandfight says

    Christian founded this country. They had risk everything for the one chance for utopia. Then along came whatever you would call these people. I call them spoilers to stupid to satanic but smart enough for government office. If you don’t believe why would it bother you?

  57. OSAMA OBAMA says

    ban on using public funds or property to promote religion. – See more

  58. Terry Hamblin says

    Ya got it wrong man. The Ten Commandments had nothing to do with religion. They were and are, simply rules to live by. Religions refer to the commandments is if they wrote them.

    1. Croco Dile says

      If the laws of the United States were based on the Ten Commandments, it would make it a Jewish country.
      Laws in the Old Testament only have secondary importance to Christians, who supposedly follow the New Testament as their primary scripture. This is an instance of Christian’s selective use of the New Testament.

  59. jimdarnall says

    You should follow the law unless it is in direct conflict with God’s law. God ordained all governments and to follow His governing attributes. This nation and all governments within were founded on Christian moral values.This court ruling itself is unconstitutional and therefore void. All governors should stand on and for the values that were originally put in place by The Creator.

  60. LindainPA says

    Attempting to make Atheism the State ‘religion’ is a violation of the First Commandment. God bless Gov. Fallin.

  61. RMCSRET says

    I stand with Mary Fallin. If it is good for the Supreme Court and the Congressional Chambers then it is
    good for the grounds of Capitals.

  62. victor hamel says

    Very well said Governor Fallin, and We the People of Oklahoma, stand proudly with You on this most important Issue.

  63. curtmavi38 says

    This is a no brainer, if you don’t like the 10 commandments don’t read it. I’m sure you have just glanced at all the signs on the highway and did not read them cause you did not believe what they said. All those that want these 10 commandments taken down, you may not believe in them but millions of us do. So quit whining and get on with your miserable lives. meh

  64. Paul Andreotti says

    Yes Thank you Gov Fallin. We must stop these lawless judges who are morally bankrupt. These wacky judges need to come to some of my classes regarding the founding of this nation. I would be more than happy to enlighten these knuckleheads.

  65. wabbitno2 says

    It’s about time someone stand up for Christian rights, I have had enough of this crap and we as true Americans need to take our rights back, Period.

  66. TPS12 says

    Yes you can see all the wonderful things the left has done for us, our Country is so much better now.

    the left has been remarkably successful in their attempt to
    secularize the country. Prayer in schools, Ten Commandments displays, Christmas
    decorations…they leave no stone unturned. Ashamed of America’s Christian
    heritage, these atheists will not be satisfied until God is whitewashed from history.

  67. Mr Lee Edwards says

    The display of broad religious principles, such as the Ten Commandments, which are the bedrock of Western civilization and the basis of our laws governing social interaction is not a violation of the Constitution. Establishing a State Religion like King Henry VIII did when the Pope would not recognize his divorce or remarriage would be a violation of the Constitution.

  68. Michael Dennewitz says

    How much you want to bet that she’s forced to get rid of it???

    1. QUASAR says

      I don’t think so ‘ there is a change coming and it is for the better ‘ everyone I talk to says obama is a crook and should be impeached ‘people are waking up and this could be the catalyst for the revolution that is coming .

  69. Scottyone77 says

    To me that is a stand worth giving your life to defend the 10 commandments. I wonder if these GOD hating atheist liberal left are willing to do the same.
    GOD Bless America

  70. John DeLellis says

    Satan and OBAMA finally defeated! All the liars are on the run! Democrats and Socialist are going to have to learn the meaning of words like TRUTH ( did the illegals murder and rape AMERICANS OR DID THEY NOT . The FACTS AND THE NARRATIVE SAY THEY DID!!! To DEMOCRATS socialist and most college kids they have been taught to despise TRUTH! Most of their training leads them to believe that those with common sense are a RACIST… VERY CONVENIENT FOR BARRACK AND THE SUPREME COURT!! Now, a new BALLGAME is being played! Donald Trump is in town ! He make editors and executives of the media,” squeal like a pig!” I think it’s gonna be some JAIL TIME finally for these Gutless Wonders , finally! The Socialist Pigs are going to be dancing to their theme song: DELIVERANCE !!! Start plucking that banjo, you lying liberal mule-skinners’

  71. Loving America says

    Please read the SMM Article on CBS News For Today..it is very clear that the States under the Constitution can run themselves and the Federal Government can go to hell in a handbasket and that the Constitution states that America was formed under God and cannot be run any other ways and we can stop it all from being done to our States and Citizens! Under the Constitution how it is written under God and Gos’ Rules the gay marriages are wrong!!!!

  72. MolokaiAdvertiserNews says

    ARREST ALL illegal aliens STARTING with Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro!

    WAKE UP Americans! Obama is NOT the POTUS, Not even eligible, Not American! The Father of the Constitution, James Madison, warned: “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” That is where we are now, today, in USA, under attack from within by Barack H. Obama, et al who have infiltrated all of our republican institutions of government, making WAR against Citizens of USA and our Constitution.

    WAKE UP Americans! Obama is NOT the POTUS, Not even eligible, Not American! So PLEASE stop referring to Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro as “The President”.

    Americans have no lawful contract of any kind with the illegal alien criminal Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro who is not even eligible for POTUS, because FRAUD vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents, elections, and even judgments.

    The elections of Obama in ’08 and ’12 are based on Obama I.D. Fraud, and a conspiracy with Rep. Nancy Pelosi and DNC et al, therefore We The People have no valid contract with Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro to allow him to occupy the Office of President of the united States of America, or to take vacations with immunity from criminal arrest in Hawaii, becauseFRAUD vitiates the most solemn contracts, documents and even judgments. United States v. Throckmorton [1878] 98 JU.S. 61, 70. The illegal alien Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro is criminally impersonating a Citizen of USA by fraud I.D., and he is usurping the Office of POTUS. He must be ARRESTED as a criminal, as an illegal alien, Usurper, I.D. fraud, Election Fraud, etc., by Hawaii law enforcement and/or where ever by FBI, CIA, HS, CG , ICE; not impeached as IF he was POTUS.

    Furthermore, Obama by his TREASONOUS actions is prohibited from Office by 14th Amendment:

    Amendment Article 14, Section 3.

    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution [for] the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof….”.

    ARREST Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro illegal alien Enemy of USA, Jihadist, Criminal!

    Call Congress: Congress today at (202) 225-3121. Tell them to Defund Obama’s Amnesty NOW. And, terminate immediately all federal welfare programs, including Amnesty, ObamaPhones and Obamacare and ObamaDeathTax, Food Stamps, etc., for everybody; arrest and deport all illegal aliens starting with illegal alien usurper of Office named Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro, NOW!

    Thank you Senator Ben Sasse for your efforts to stop ObamaAmnesty, Obamacare, ObamaWar, ObamaEcomony, ObamaIRS, ObamaHomelandSecurityMartial Law, and the criminal usurpation of the Office of POTUS by the illegal alien Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro who is using fraudulent I.D. to impersonate a Citizen of USA while committing TREASON. DEFUND everything Obama, and arrest the number one criminal and Islamic threat to all Americans who is named Barack H. Obama II aka Barry Soetoro!

    The Father of the Constitution, James Madison, said, “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” The so called war on terror with Obama the Enemy Jihadist Infiltrator usurping the Office of POTUS will be our undoing if we do not ARREST, INDICT, and Convict him of multiple crimes from Usurpation by I.D. and Election Fraud, Immigration felonies, to Murder and Treason. Obama is NOT the POTUS, just a criminal Usurper!

  73. The_Random_Sample says

    Neither the federal government nor the states may “pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from
    church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion.” Everson v. Board of Education (1947) This is nothing new.

  74. The duck says

    When or if when atheists gays and political liberals get what they are after and create a vacuum in our national sole, Islam will fill it for them. The next logical step will be Sharia and prayer 3 times a day or off with their heads. I know they will love kneeling and putting their faces into the floor and reciting Allah is Great over and over again. Murphy’s Law will take over, Every empty space will be filled. And Religion in the form of believe or die will fill the emptiness they created. God help all true Americans in that day. Lock and load all your ball ammo America. And do not vote for the Socialist Democratic Party in 2016. We have had enough that to last the life time of my great great grandchildren and then some.

  75. Anna K says

    Good! It is about time someone stood up to the Atheists!

  76. jim scofield says

    Way to Go Gov. Fallin Don’t give up and Don’t give in

  77. donemyhomework says

    I suppose the liberals want to replace the Ten Commandments with Sharia law.

  78. Albert L Biele says

    I salute Gov. Fallin for her courage, and wisdom to put God before all things, and in giving a very important message to the youth of our nation who in most cases, do not understand why God has lost so many battles in a country that was founded on Christian/Judea principles. God bless Gov. Fallin.

  79. scott says

    never back down from evil communist scum

  80. Michael Dennewitz says

    Something tells me that “someone” higher up will force it.. Too bad the other states DON’T have any balls!!

  81. daveveselenak says

    The leftist communists have used civil disobedience to hijack the “Outhouse” – it is way, way past time that the true Christian conservatives do likewise!

  82. Alleged Comment says

    If you remove the 10 Commandments then you will be practicing THEIR religion then you’ll be a hypocrite like they are.

  83. peanut butter says

    This monument has been there for a long time. I think an individual paid for it. It is Grandfathered-in as far as any new law is concerned, if I remember that law correctly. And they need to be sure and add something to their Constitution to keep the idiot devil worshippers from putting up their statue of baphomet.

  84. mareman says

    CHEERS TO GOV. FALLIN !!! Prayers for her, for OK, and FOR AMERICA……STAND UP…..STAND FIRM……GOD BLESS AMERICA !!! Blessings, Mareman

    1. QUASAR says

      Yup don’t give a inch ‘we will see if they have the guts to try anything .

  85. Jack says


  86. Tinman Jones says

    Put the Oklahoma and Texas governors on a presidential / vice presidential ticket! Romans 12:12!

  87. milmac says

    Let’s hope Mary Fallin will stick with noncompliance. Pray that more Governors will join her in protecting States Rights as noted in the the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution–the powers not given to the government by the Constitution are reserved to the states or to the people. We the People do not have to obey the lawless Supreme Court of the US. They do not have the power to make law, much less unconstitutional laws. Not all of us rebelling could be arrested. The Declaration of Independence provides that “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing the same Object evinces a design to reduce them (referring to the people) to absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government ….

    The elected and the appointed must bide by our Constitution, and if they don’t there are ways to force them out of office–we could take up arms (as provided in the 2d Amendment) or we could stop paying income taxes, which are not legal to begin with. If we stopped paying taxes no government employee would work for free so government would be self-abolished The latter would be the less violent, but I would not be adverse to bearing arms.

  88. Patrick Murphy says

    It was never intended to seperation of church and state but rather seperation of church from state.The founding father came here and founded this country for the right to worship freely without interfearance from the government.And now we have a court that has given rights to mental illness.How did they get it so wrong considering where we started from?

  89. Wilbert Jennings says

    We have more illegals and muslims then we do Christians or this wouldn’t be happening.

  90. jdbixii says

    The only thing that is unconstitutional about the Ten Commandments is violation or disobedience.

  91. James in Texas says

    The British made the same mistake. They also thought that the folks in this “colony” would not fight. And, it appears that our current government feels the same way. 100 Million folks with 300 Million guns says………….. “Bad decisions being made”! We in Texas are proud of our citizens in “Far-North Texas”, also known as Oklahoma. Of course, they consider us as “Baja Oklahoma”! :>)

  92. Cooleemee Edd says

    If I was the Governor, not only would I refuse to remove the 10 Commandments, I would refuse to recognize any attempt to get me into a court because of it. The rule “cold dead hands” would apply.

    1. QUASAR says

      Damn straight ‘stand your ground gov’you are on the side of the righteous.

  93. Michael Dennewitz says

    She will lose out! If the top henchman Soros commands it, his paid followers, including Ovomit, will follow thru! GOD HELP AMERICA !!

  94. Spark1845 says

    No Impeachment for the little Muslim PUNK ASS BITCH. HANGING is what he deserves. Jail, trial, conviction and EXECUTION.

  95. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says

    GOD Bless Gov Fallin, to hell with the supreme gutless court!!!!! They no longer interpet the law but now they rewrite it!!!!~

  96. Cowboy says

    The Ten Commandments are LAW. Ours is an English Common Law nation and Christianity (and the Ten Commandments) is part of the Common Law, as defined by centuries of precedents. The Supreme Court itself has found this to be a Christian Nation. ( US v Trinity Church).
    This Supreme Court can no more change that than pigs can fly. But the could order the monument removed.

    The Court has been the most destructive branch in American history, without the Dred Scott decision – no Civil War, without Roe v Wade 60,000,000 people would be alive today, now the “homosexual” marriage case with who knows what consequences?
    Time to pass a constitutional amendment to have them elected like all the other politicians in DC!

    1. The_Random_Sample says

      “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
      – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

      1. cmi says

        What in the world could ANYONE have against the 10 commandments, whether you’re Christian or not??!? Are you THAT hell-bent to get to HELL???

        1. The_Random_Sample says

          No, I’m just a loyal, patriotic American who believes in separation of church and state, one of the principles on which this country was founded.

  97. Cowboy says

    And Chief Justice Story of the Supreme Court completely disagreed with the good Mr. Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson, slaveowner, as brilliant as he was cannot change centuries of common law. An old case once states as Christ and the 12 apostles will judge all in that day, so it is meet that twelve good men and a Judge should judge now!
    The jury system itself was patterned after a biblical concept. It can be denied, but every time a jury is impaneled it is evidence of a biblical concept incorporated into the common law. The jury is by the way, the most unique feature of the English Common Law. We do not trust individual Judges, Ayatollahs, or Inqusitors in this and other Common Law nations, but Juries. Because the law is held in common and all may know it. Right and wrong are written on men’s hearts and consciences by a Almighty God. That is why it is common. Truth is evident to all, some deny truth, but none can change it.

  98. watchman48 says

    Tis better to stand for God’s Righteousness than with man’s ignorance.

  99. SophieMarieF says

    Nobody’s tampering with your rights to practice your faith, but the SECULAR government is doing its job protecting others from your fascism and your non-stop interference with civil rights (women’s rights, LGBT equality, etc). Yes, there’s a war going on, but you radical Christians are the ones waging it. You’re not better than ISIS. In fact you’re a lot worse because not a lot of people see you for the dangerous threat you really are. Keep your believes for yourselves, because this is AMERICA, the land of the FREE and not the land of GOD.

    1. QUASAR says

      It used to be the land of God ‘now it’s the land of the depraved ‘The LGBT community continues to spread it’s disease on the public ‘ the race baiters ‘OBAMA’SHARPTON AND JACKSON want to divide the races and start a race war .Oh yeah and FYI ‘the christians are not the ones waging this war ‘it’s you fools who think it’s ok to kill your unborn child and screw another man in the butt who are causing america to ROT away .If someone with morals tells you you are living in sin you idiots get all up in the air and demand our rights to free speech be taken away ‘I guess freedom of speech only applies to things you agree with huh.

    2. cmi says

      It’s now the Land of IDIOTS!!

    3. Jack says

      Excuse me…this nation was founded by Christians! 52 out of 54 patriots that signed the Decloration of Independence were in fact Christians…In 1620 when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock in Cape Cod in Massachusetts sought religious freedom, and Left Jolly Ole England to escape the tyranny from the Crown in England…so who is spewing hate? So yes for your answer this Is America Founded on the Laws of God, whether you like it or not!!

  100. geneww1938 says

    Of course they must not be moved. Bravo to Gov. Fallin !!!

  101. Frank B says

    Then she needs to either resign from office, or be impeached, and thrown out with tomorrows garbage!— Since when does she or any other citizen get to ignore a court ruling?– She is a disgrace to all public servants in every state in this country!

  102. geoh777 says

    Now that they have ordered the removal of the Ten Commandments, let them bring their tools and remove them themselves.

  103. No-Mo-BO says

    All the Libs want, and keep describing our system as, a ‘Democracy’ instead of the Representative Republic that it is, so lets give them a taste: Atheists are approx 9% of the population and gays are a puny 3%…so WE WIN! All non-believers and sodomites…STEP OFF!

  104. gutz22 says

    Yet again another example of Barry The Bathhouse Punk’s agenda in eradicating Christian belief by the use of the courts.Anything that stands in the way of the false god of government will not be tolerated.The promotion of immoral conduct that flies in the face of Christianity is championed i.e gay marriage,the tyrany of class warfare & The Punk’s hatred of this country & it’s rule of law.

  105. real talk 1 says

    The federal government should get out and stay out of states affairs we need to elect more people like Gov. Fallin stay the coarse Gov.

  106. wildeagleone says

    I have an idea——-let’s take the ACLU out of our lives and keep the Ten Commandments proudly displayed for all the low life government judges that don’t believe in the Lord to follow, in the event they get lost in their decision making as they have in this case

  107. cmi says

    I am still baffled over this UN-GODLY Supreme Court!! How did “Freedom OF Religion” wind up to be interpreted as “Freedom FROM Religion”?!? I do not believe it was EVER meant to be, that the government, Supreme Court, or whatever, could demand that ANY signs of Christian religion could be totally removed from sight!! What’s next,….Demand that Churches be removed from public view???!?

    1. stop the lieberals says

      Or write you a ticket if you get caught looking at them.

  108. Joe T says


  109. kktex12 says

    Gov. Fallin has to get rid of the traitorous muslime witch on the Ok. supreme court. That will help.

  110. OSAMA OBAMA says

    Hey pig vermin A.C.L.U.! Why didn’t you TURDS stop the S.F. Airport from installing a muSLIME prayer room at tax payers expense.? And, why don’t you stand up for the 2nd. Amendment? Fraud pieces of obama.

    1. stop the lieberals says

      No sh!t??? I didn’t hear about that.
      So it’s OK for govt to endorse and financially support one religion but deny another religion’s member’s 1st Amendment rights.

      1. OSAMA OBAMA says

        By Jessica Chasmar – The Washington Times – Monday, June 10, 2013
        California taxpayers have footed the bill for Muslim airport cabbies to have their
        very own prayer room and foot baths at the San Francisco International Airport.

        Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/taxpayers-tab-muslim-prayer-room-foot-baths-san-fr/#ixzz3fhJ6dtBz

        1. stop the lieberals says

          Sweet Jesus. And guess who’s footing the bill.

  111. Patrick says

    Raised in the military, Active Duty for 20+ years, in 15 nations, 6 VN Campaigns, I am leery of joining any “mutiny”, and observe that for 31 million Veterans, we are a silent force of Oath Keepers, armed and ready.

    So, you probably won’t hear from these silent warriors, but, we know from the empty rhetoric of the failed administration of Barack Hussein (Obama) Soetoro, that we are the major segment he fears most in his takeover.

    We Veterans have served in nations where there are no Rights retained by the people.

    So, Veterans know the odor of tyranny. It will only fail, here.

    Look at the track record of “Emperor Ming” Barack Hussein (Obama) Soetoro, the Indonesian Muslim narcissistic CIC. Scandals, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, hacked OPM database, &, ad infinitum.

  112. yaki534 says

    God bless this lady! She stands for not only Christianity but for common sense.

  113. Geo says

    I stand and salute the Governor of Oklahoma. I have been there quite a few times and love it. Keep up the good work Gov!

  114. Joe T says

    A political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws (Obama’s executive orders and not following the laws on the books and laws interpreted with bias (SCOTUS) rather than by revolution (but the revolution is coming, ENOUGH LIES AND LIBERAL BULLSHIT IDEOLOGY.)


    Once again Liberalism so aptly demonstrate that it’s lost in the weeds of confusion of
    the Democratic lunacy ideology and the forest of lies by Obama on a daily basis
    24/7. Verified.

    Letting the
    liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, hastens the demise of the
    liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing
    the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People
    are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than
    good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on
    lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is
    stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A
    promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of
    misery, no hope, no change and divided.

    February 17, 2008,
    reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

    As a clinical and
    forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and
    examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political
    psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of
    Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as
    suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as

    The Liberal Mind is
    the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The
    radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue
    us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal
    responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government
    dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses
    financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining
    and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies
    religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against
    the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods,
    services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure
    everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect
    everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage,
    educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism
    thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals,
    coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on
    character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s
    madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of
    the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would
    want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in
    which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately
    undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him.
    Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government
    coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a
    madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a
    society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological
    Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

  115. Michael Dennewitz says

    Well, over here on the eastern seaboard they have taken down the confederate flag. That should cure racism huh? Let’s see:
    NO prayer in schools…
    NO pledge of allegiance to our flag…
    NO religious practices at schools, (unless it’s mooselums!)
    No more segregation of boys – girls in scouts…
    ….and the lists go on and on and on.. When is America going to say they’ve had enough and A C T ????????

  116. daveveselenak says

    Welcome to “The Michael Savage Newsletter,” your daily insider report on all things “Savage.”

    In today’s issue: Dr. Savage condemns the establishment media and its “progressive” audience for fighting against Donald Trump and the Confederate flag instead against ISIS and the rest of America’s real enemies.

    “We are in a gun fight and we’re losing,” said Savage to his audience.

    The radical communist left has taken over the entire world.

    I don’t mean the old Bolshevik days when they lined people up and shot them, at least not quite yet.

    It’s a quiet revolution that Barry from Hawaii has been conducting.

    The secret hands that selected him twice now then picked the first non-European pope in 1,200 years.

    If he was wearing a red beret, he’d be no different from Che Guevara in his rhetoric.

    So when a true conservative like Donald Trump stands up, who tells the truth, the verminous communist left attack him.

    They don’t attack ISIS for killing and raping.

    They attack the Confederate flag instead.

    The cowards at the New York Times refuse to list Ted Cruz’s book as a bestseller, even though it is.

    They did the same thing to me with my novel “Countdown to Mecca.”

    1. Joe T says

      The Pope is actually endorsing the Qu’ran………….and it disavowals Jesus as Savior, etc.
      Best regards, Joe T
      Savage is an astute commentator.

      1. daveveselenak says

        It is too bad that we no longer have a free press but rather a state-run, fifth column media that equates to “US” not being a free country! AMERIKA should be hearing this message from the “Re-PUNK-licans” and the FOX FAKERS but like everyone else, including SCOTUS, have been compromised or worse they have went to the other side. REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION! mInr, NSA!

        1. Joe T says

          dave….you’re right…congrats

          dave….WE/I am on your side with some reservations; I half-way and whole heartily somewhat agree with your partial spatial awareness and remedial thoughtful analysis of a dire situation gone bad in a pretty decent way. What do you still ponder?
          That designed convoluted statement/mendacity is a politicians/attorneys/typical courts opinion-bias intended-reasoning in a political atmosphere to cover their azz; sans compunction for the USA.)
          To wit:
          Input Info – Drastic events demand drastic action. (Ever served in the Armed Forces of the USA)
          The ultimate Answer to Islamic/Muslim Terror….is an idea:
          An idea that includes Obama in the very near future ,whereas, the USA Military ACCIDENTALLY NUKES the ENTIRE Middle East, in toto; HOW?

          Fly a couple of B-1 bombers on a deep secret reconnaissance mission (loaded with multiple H- bombs) that crash in the (heart) of the Middle East and the Middle East becomes a tranquil Sea of Glass…….it’s the only logical answer to end the thousands of years of TERROR overseas and in the world…period.

          The Brookings Institute, CIA. NSA. DEA, NRA and GOD would definitely, succinctly, surely, realistically undoubtedly , truthfully, emphatically, categorically and positively APPROVE…and as a BONUS, the black POTUS would be on a B-1 Bomber as an observer. HIS final executive act for him.

          Praise GOD… finally he will be in Hollywood Heaven with all his virgins……..yeah right on, Nike plainly says…just do it….. an elite military unit would readily volunteer. Peace would then reign supreme in the entire sane part of the world; bar no one to complain. NOT even the liberal Democrats; Hoorah!

          And, if China or Russia complained…another secret mission….ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…ALREADY.
          Best regards, Joe T……VERITAS………..
          VOTE FOR _ _ _ _ _. TRUTH IN USA GOVERNMENT!
          Your comment was excellent………..congrats.

          1. daveveselenak says

            Whew, your intelligence is a bit much for me but you are right and your heart is on the right side – as opposed to the dark side of evil. The reality is that too many Americans have left God and can not discern the evilness of those ruling over them. I too served in the military (Viet Nam) and was forced to fight communism halfway around the globe, I’ll be damned – and should be – if I won’t fight it here in my homeland! That is just who I am and proud of it. I have principles that won’t be compromised but unfortunately most of this dead Republic think otherwise!

          2. Joe T says

            daveveselenak….Exactly and thanks for the gratuitous comment to me.
            When you have time read Job 38:14…any questions I’ll comment to U.
            best damn regards, Joe T

  117. G.Frazier says

    I wish every state in the Union had a governor, who would stand up for righteousness and tell those, who are lapping up whatever the devil is dishing out, where they can go!

  118. Sapperboy says

    Finally. A politician and Christian that has the courage to do the right thing. We need so many more like her to turn back the tide of persecution from the Godless LEFT!

  119. azabigail says

    YAY Governor Fallin! Thank you for making the effort to take it deeper. Most of the time those who represent us roll over before even beginning to make the effort to present a simple finding of facts.

  120. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says

    Please support her, I wonder if she could appoint more people to the supreme court to floor in with people that had some common sense

  121. Tiger says

    There will be more and more speaking out and up against all the restraints put on Christian principals, that our entire country was founded on. We are a Free Society, we need to remind this government and their minions of this. Trump doing a good job and with his strength and his bluntness and his opening the “Pandora” boxes of Taboo subjects like immigration, Muslims, Sanctuary cities etc many are finding their voices.

    There is hope. People forget and many don’t even know what Socialism/Communism leads to. But folks we are living the swelling up of that beast as I type and H and O the government HO’s leading the way.


  122. ward says

    This is he #1 action to ” make America great again ” and eliminate the libtard athiests that are destroying the U.S. Constitutional Freedom, Liberty & Rights of Patriotic U.S. Citizens that protect National Security !

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