Only “Top 10” GOP Candidates Get to Debate


Much has been said about the GOP primary field this year, a growing, thriving collection of leaders with platforms that are a breath of fresh air for the party. But the sheer size of the field is creating some logistical problems when it comes to how the debates will be structured. Fox News, which is hosting the first debate in August, has created some rules for the debate that not everyone is crazy about.

On Wednesday, the cable channel announced that they would allow only the top 10 candidates to take the stage. They will judge the field by taking the average of the five most recent national polls. This decision puts considerable pressure on candidates who have yet to make their mark. Expect to see stragglers come out in force with more spending in the next few months to make sure they crack the top 10 before the final decision is made. For those official candidates who don’t make the cut, Fox will set aside airtime earlier in the day for these politicians to make their case to the American people.

Obviously, there are problems with this scenario, but there are no easy solutions. By inviting every candidate up onto the stage, you limit the effectiveness of the debate itself. That takes us in a precarious direction; it’s hard enough to wrangle substance out of these events. If you had 16 Republicans up on the stage, you would get a kind of low-grade noise that does no one any good. A political debate should feature more than a catchphrase or two from each candidate.

On the other hand, by limiting the field, Fox is giving more power to Republican Party leaders. Fox is usually pretty good about scratching beneath the surface, but there’s no reason to hold the primary at all if the candidate has already been chosen by the RNC.

What is the solution? CNN is taking a different approach for the September debate, splitting the field into two separate tiers. That gets everyone on TV, but it will be clear to viewers which debate is important and which one is just there to give the “B-team” a chance at the spotlight. In some ways, that’s even worse than the scenario Fox has chosen to implement.

This might be a good time for us to re-evaluate the way we use debates in this country. Are they really necessary? Do they contribute to the process? These debates are given quite a bit of weight, especially among undecided voters, but they tend to be judged on factors that have very little to do with who would actually be the best president. They favor smooth-talking candidates, one-liners, and politicians who happen to look good on camera. They are perhaps preferable to campaign commercials, but not by much.

If we want to really improve Washington, we would do ourselves a big favor by judging these politicians on substance and not so much on style. There is a place for head to head debate, but we shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that we’re electing a president, not a salesman.

That is, if there’s any difference anymore.

  1. juan says

    Very good news. Thanks

  2. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

    My concern is that one who ever it is will be our next President and not a democrat.

    1. johnny51 says

      What if that one is no better than a Democrat . Like Jeb Bush for instance .

      1. Fredrogers says

        Rockin Rand Paul, the leader of the charge to stop the NSA from mass collection!

      2. Kathy W says

        He would be a strong leader. If you are afraid of immigration ruining our economy, so am I. A law and order party is going to use more control over immigration that is in our best interest.

        1. Jackie says

          Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are both for more control over immigration. They would make a GREAT TICKET for 2016.

          1. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            Aye if they ran together I would rally votes for that duo!

      3. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

        Well i don’t think that he could be any worst than whats up there now.

      4. donemyhomework says

        Yes. It’s like the old Free Press cartoon. A revolver loaded and pointing at you and all of the candidates are bullets. And anyway you look at it, you’re going to get shot.

    2. Fredrogers says

      We are all screwed if a Democrypt or Rebloodican gets elected. We need a strong independent!

      1. Kathy W says

        Republicans want lower taxes, less government control and Democrats wants us gunless and witless.

        1. nmasterson says

          The Republicans are definitely the better of the 2 evils. Look what the Dem Donkeys have done to this once great country. To vote Democratic is to vote for the total destruction of the American Way.

          1. pineapple says

            19 Signs That American Families Are Being
            Economically Destroyed (look at #16)

            Submitted by Tyler Durden
            on 04/09/2015 Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

            The systematic destruction of the American way of life is
            happening all around us, and yet most people have no idea what is happening.
            Once upon a time in America,
            if you were responsible and hardworking you could get a good paying job that
            could support a middle class lifestyle for an entire family even if you only
            had a high school education. Things weren’t perfect, but generally almost
            everyone in the entire country was able to take care of themselves without
            government assistance. We worked hard, we played hard, and our seemingly
            boundless prosperity was the envy of the entire planet. But over the past
            several decades things have completely changed. We consumed far more
            wealth than we produced, we shipped millions of good paying jobs overseas, we
            piled up the biggest mountain of debt in the history of the world, and we kept
            electing politicians that had absolutely no concern for the long-term future of
            this nation whatsoever. So now good jobs are in very short supply, we are
            drowning in an ocean of red ink, the middle class is rapidly shrinking and
            dependence on the government is at an all-time high. Even as we stand at
            the precipice of the next great economic crisis, we continue to make the same
            mistakes. In the end, all of us are going to pay a very great price for
            decades of incredibly foolish decisions. Of course a tremendous amount of
            damage has already been done. The numbers that I am about to share with
            you are staggering. The following are 19 signs that American families are
            being economically destroyed…(Look at #19)

            #1 The poorest 40 percent
            of all Americans now spend more than 50 percent of their incomes just on food and

            #2 For those Americans that
            don’t own a home, 50 percent of them spend more than a third of their incomes just on rent.

            #3 The price of school
            lunches has risen to the 3 dollar mark at many public schools across the nation.

            #4 McDonald’s “Dollar Menu
            & More” now includes items that cost as much as 5 dollars.

            #5 The price of ground beef
            has doubled since 2009.

            #6 In 1986, child care
            expenses for families with employed mothers used up 6.3 percent of all income. Today, that figure is up to 7.2 percent.

            #7 Incomes fell for the bottom 80 percent of all income earners in the United States
            during the 12 months leading up to June 2014.

            #8 At this point, more than 50 percent of all American workers bring home less
            than $30,000 a year in wages.

            #9 After adjusting for
            inflation, median household income has fallen by nearly $5,000
            since 2007.

            #10 According to the New
            York Times, the “typical American household” is now worth 36 percent less than it was worth a decade ago.

            #11 47 percent of all Americans do not put a single penny out of
            their paychecks into savings.

            #12 One survey found that 62 percent of all Americans are currently living paycheck to

            #13 According to the U.S.
            Department of Education, 33 percent of all Americans with student loans are currently
            behind on their student loan debt repayments.

            #14 According to one recent
            report, 43 million Americans currently have unpaid medical debt on
            their credit reports.

            #15 The rate of
            homeownership in the U.S.
            has been declining for seven years in a row, and it is now the lowest that it has
            been in 20 years.

            #16 For
            each of the past six years, more businesses have closed in the
            United States
            than have opened. Prior to 2008, this had
            never happened before in all of U.S.

            #17 According to the Census
            Bureau, 65 percent of all children in the United States are living in a home
            that receives some form of aid from the federal government.

            #18 If you have no debt at
            all, and you also have 10 dollars in your wallet, that you are wealthier than 25 percent of all Americans.

            #19 On top of everything
            else, the average American must work from January 1st to April 24th just to pay all federal, state
            and local taxes

  3. Gabriel A. King says

    2 corrupt parties, 1 corrupt nation. With the corporate media owned by 6 mega corporations at the helm directing this sham of a fiction which used to be a good country. And AS USUAL, no one else will be allowed in the debates of this fake democracy as the phonies of the Left / right paradigm do what they are paid to do: destroy what’s left of America.

    1. Citizentobe says

      Mr. King: You nailed it I right on the sore…!

      1. Croco Dile says

        People want “authority” to exist because they themselves are immature cowards.They want an all-powerful entity to impose their will on others. This takes different forms in different varieties of political advocacy, but the basic motivation is always the same. The “liberal”, for example, resents reality. He does not want a world in which suffering and injustice are possible. But instead of doing what he can as a human being, he wants a “government” to do it for him. He wants some magical entity to make sure that everyone, himself included, is fed, housed, and taken care of, no matter how lazy or irresponsible they are. Instead of trusting human beings to take care of each other, he wants a superhuman “authority” to guarantee housing, food, health care, and all sorts of other things, for everyone. He wants it so badly that he refuses to accept the obvious truth that no such guarantee is ever possible, and that if mere mortals do not take care of themselves and each other, nothing else will take care of them.
        The liberal views the world as a continuation of his/her childhood, where there is always an “authority” in charge and in control who will make sure that the good kids are rewarded and protected from the bad kids. Each child is told what to do and taken care of, and all that is asked of him is that he does as he is told. He is expected to bear no responsibility at all for his own well-being, except through his obedience to the “authority.” He does not provide his own food, or his own shelter, or his own protection, or anything else. He simply has faith that “authorities” (e.g., teachers and parents) will provide for him. He is raised in a setting which bears no resemblance to reality and is taught to look to “authority” for all of his needs.

        1. arcing says

          I only have one question for you. What are you personally doing to facilitate change?

          1. Croco Dile says

            That’s an easy question.

          2. Peatro Giorgio says

            Great reply.

    2. j0e cave says

      the only way to solve the problem is a armed revolt full scale war on the district of corruption

      1. ittlebite says

        I can think of a better way. All labor strike until we can issue our own money. Till then we are had!! The strike wouldn’t take long, they are nothing without our labor.

        1. Nancy says

          I’m with you ittlebite! How do we do it?+

          1. Tom Donaldson says

            How do we do it? Stock up on a couple months of food/water. Then quit everything. No work, no taxes. no travel. no economy. Think the gov’t can outsurvive us? I don’t think so. Got your guns and ammo saved up? Unfortunately, there aren’t enough AMERICANS to pull it off right now. But mark my word. A civil war is inevitable! Be prepared!

          2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            I think there are enough red blooded Americans left. They just need the push to break them out of the fear grips. The simple fact that people are openly discussing such a taboo subject is relative proof to the idea that most are fed up. Keep in mind though that many are still followers and though they would quietly agree they won’t be the first shouting revolution from the rooftops. Therefore that job is up to people like you and I that obviously are more angry and upset about the state of things than we are in fear of the consequences. No one wants to die or get hauled off to Gitmo but we need to start preparing for that or just curl up and die as frightened slaves.

          3. Tom Donaldson says

            Right on, Sarge. First let’s get Obama out of office. I’m ready to start something in Texas, and so are some of my former Corps buddies. We need to start an organization to assess our strength and strategize. I want to know how many more there out there with enough guts to do something. My email is Semper fi

          4. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            I’ll tell you… I am angry as f*ckin hell and ready for whatever may come! OORAH!

            Every time I read the news, terrorism, civil unrest, the economy is crashing, buy gold, grab your guns, food shortages, fuel shortages, inflation… fear, fear, FEAR – HIDE!

            I’m sick of it… Why not just oust the traitors responsible? It isn’t illegal to execute traitors – it is our American DUTY!

          5. Croco Dile says

            It takes for the people to abandon the Authority Cult.
            This won’t happen any time soon.

            Statists often have a deep-seated terror of a world in which every person decides for himself what he should do. Unfortunately for them, that is all that has ever existed, and all that ever will exist. Everyone already decides for himself what he will do.

            That is called “free will.” Many assume that if an individual is not bound by any “authority,” and has the attitude “I can do whatever I want,” he will behave like a selfish animal. Some even imagine that they themselves would become animals if they were not governed by a master. Such a belief implies that people feel a strong moral obligation to do as they are told, but otherwise have no moral compass at all. But most people obey “the law” because they believe that it is good to do so. There is no reason to think that, without being subservient to a master, those same people would no longer care about being good. Yet many still imagine human beings to be stupid savages, kept in check only by controllers.


        2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

          Good idea, one failing point — with tens of thousands of illegals crossing the borders every week and an estimated 12 million refugees coming in from the Middle East — we pull a labor strike and shutdown the US for a few days and then…

          Welcome to the United Mexican States of New Arabia!

          Revolt is better, then we can at least send the illegals and Talis back to where they came from at the same time.

          1. ittlebite says

            You do make a good point. Really the ideal would be for all “humans” globally to resist this slavery.But I’m sure we will all die before that ever happens. Just dreaming of escape.

          2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            ittlebite I am ready to raise some hell. I think we have quite a lot of like minded people in the US still. I believe there are plenty that would walk alongside me (as equals as Americans). 1% is all we need. 3.2 million people… Just one percent that REALLY WANT CHANGE – that CANNOT ACCEPT THIS AS IT IS – THAT DESIRE TO SEE THE US IMPROVED… The masters must be made to listen — by force if needed or suffer the consequences if they do not.

            I don’t think MOST law enforcement or military would be a problem as they are mostly like minded.

            WE THE PEOPLE need to take authority over our land back and stop living in an illusion of freedom…

          3. arcing says

            Well we are still armed, and the illegal immigrants aren’t as well as we are.

          4. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            That’s affirmative…

        3. arcing says

          Who is John Galt?

      2. Croco Dile says

        There will never be a time when everyone shares the same values and viewpoints. Peace and freedom cannot exist if every difference of opinion, and every difference in lifestyles or behaviors, leads to violent conflict via “government” coercion.
        Civilization, a state of peaceful coexistence, is not the result of everyone believing the same thing, but of people agreeing to refrain from initiating violence, even against people who do not believe the same things.
        “Conservative” statism, just as much as the “liberal” version, guarantees perpetual strife and conflict because it seeks to override free will and individual judgment with the so-called morality of a ruling class, whose first principle is forced conformity and sameness. Of course, violence cannot create virtue, even if it sometimes creates obedience, so all attempts by “authority” to coerce people into being moral and virtuous are doomed to fail, and ultimately do nothing but increase the levels of violence and conflict in society.

    3. donemyhomework says

      If anyone’s got it right….you do, wish there was something that could be done,

      1. Fredrogers says

        Inependent Party candiate . Look what Ross Perot acomplished by running, he led the poles june 1992

        1. cal3301 says

          But he also lost and gave us Bill Clinton!

        2. donemyhomework says

          Yes, I know. But it takes a a lot to kill the powers that be.

        3. John W. Davis says

          Oh, Yes. Let us look to what Perot did. He Gave us clinton. Yep a PILE of DOG do if I ever saw one. I believe that because of Perot we now have the Indonesian the we have in the W/H now!

      2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

        There is. Stand up, protest, rally, SCREAM – I’M SICK OF YOUR SH*T AND READY TO KICK YOUR *SS! If they don’t listen, commence with kicking *ss… Thus the first through tenth amendments. We need to stop being afraid of being the one to step up and quit waiting for the politicians to step up. Simple as that.

        1. donemyhomework says

          You’re right, the Politicians never will. It’s kind of like The Who, “Won’t Get Fooled Again” the Poiticians sit in judgement of our wrongs.

          1. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            Precisely… Just ask yourself: “Do I have the faith it takes to believe that US Politics/politicians will truly fix the issues that currently face this nation? (OR) Do I believe that US politicians will continue the charade of politically correct popularity polls skirting the real issues and focusing on nonsense?”

            If you feel like me (No I don’t/Yes they will) then alternate measures must be taken by the few remaining “red blooded Americans” to stop the cycle before it is far to late. Enough is enough. America has been dreaming of a better tomorrow since the 1950’s and every year it is just getting worse.

            The time for talk has ended the time for action has now become necessity.

            I’m no politician nor am I a leader of the “free world,” I don’t know what to tell you to do or what to say but I know that we need to do something — even if it isn’t the BEST thing. Let’s get the ball rolling then figure out the rest as we progress.

            Paddy Chayefsky (US ARMY WWII Purple Heart Veteran) had it right in his screenplay “Network,” this is the first step necessary. Until we get to this point we are going to remain in the cycle that brought us here again and again each generation…


          2. donemyhomework says

            The what to do is the touchy part. I suppose the biggest thing is just communication. But anyway you look at, it doesn’t look like it’s going to be a friendly future, It’s going to come down to Civil War.

          3. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            We can start by all walking off our jobs and get thousands of people together and begin discussing that… I am sure everyone will have ideas and then hundreds of those ideas will actually be productive.

            This is why the masters keep us trapped in our homes and separated by race, religion, and social status (etc).

            If we actually got together, stood in a field, and applied some critical thinking, we could probably solve most of the world’s problems pretty quickly instead of leaving it in the hands of a few shadowy elect… Just saying.

            The Republic needs a rebirth.

          4. donemyhomework says


          5. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            Your agreement, along with a hundred plus others across several forums tells me that I’m not alone, think of the thousands more that would agree with the slightest nudge. We are so afraid of our government we fear to question their authority — AUTHORITY WE GRANT!

            We need to remind them of that from time to time or we will have absolute tyranny (and we aren’t far away now).

          6. arcing says


          7. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            The fact that people are not afraid to publicly agree to such commentary proves it’s absolute necessity.

          8. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            Overcoming the fear of loss to apply step one is the biggest problem there is. The rest will fall into place as it has for humanity for tens of thousands of years.

          9. arcing says

            People have been PCed into thinking they need to be pacifists, that there is honour in being slaughtered rather than resisting evil. Sadly many Christians head this list, not realizing that they have been sold a lie and that many of our founders were Christians.

          10. Jed says

            While I have deep respect people such as the Mennonites and have sympathy for the courage of their beliefs, I agree with you. Perhaps I am wrong, but my perspective of Christianity is that we are not to be submissive doormats. I believe we are required not only to resist evil, but also to confront it.

            “Evil is relational. Evil has no substance of its own. It is a parasite on goodness.” ~ Fulton J. Sheen

        2. arcing says

          Amen, gunny.

    4. Kathy W says

      One party is so much worse than the other. One wants us strong and thriving, the other wants us weak and vulnerable.

      1. ittlebite says

        No, no no, Can’t you see it’s all a giant good cop-bad cop routine. They all have the same master and it ain’t us.

        1. Croco Dile says

          Ferdinand Lundberg writes in his book The Rich and The Super-Rich (chapter XIII “The Cleverness of the Rich”) :
          As there is no other effective way for candidates to get on the ballot, the primary is the political key that unlocks all doors.
          “It ought to be plain, then,” says Kent, “that so long as the machine controls the primaries, it is in a position to limit the choice of the voters in the general election to its choice in the primaries. That is the real secret of its power, and, so long as it holds that power, it cannot be put out of business. Defeating its candidates in the general election not only does not break its grip, it often does not make even a dent in it. The only place the machine can be beaten is in the primaries.”
          As Kent points out, by not participating in the primaries the general voter loses at least 50% of the effectiveness of his franchise. He thereby assumes his actual political status -a second-class citizen. Nobody has chased the common man away from the primaries. He just does not feel up to participating. His democratic franchise here he finds just too much to handle. He does not, in fact, have anything to contribute; he is politically empty. As a result, the party apparatus and candidates on both tickets belong to professionals, often men never heard of in the community, usually men of limited outlook. They function behind the scenes. They have the party power.
          The party managers must find men ready, able and willing to campaign and at the same time men who will be acceptable to a broad, culturally differentiated, intellectually and emotionally low-grade public – Mencken’s boobs, Barnum’s suckers, Kipling’s “muddied oafs.”

          1. Kathy W says

            Thank you. The Democrats are so far gone that if they win again, we will not see prosperity in years, or maybe never again. Any Republican/Libertarian is better than any Democrat. Those who are angry at the system and call it all bad are copping out altogether. You right about being involved in the whole process, though.

          2. Croco Dile says

            It does not matter to be involved or not as long as Statism exists.
            And it will for a loooong time.

          3. Kathy W says

            Politicians likely don’t pay attention to the individual caller unless he gets slammed and polls show a trend. Some politicians vote to get reelected. Other politicians vote in the best interest of the country. The Republicans are unpopular because they tell you outright what they are going to do and it might not be PC or what will be the most popular view. I agree that most politicians are sociopaths, at least narcissists. The Dems are striving to get the world’s approval vs. ours. The Republicans just want us thriving and that is when the people have the most power over their own lives.

      2. arcing says

        That is not true, both parties have sold us down the river. The only hope we have is to break the two party system by voting in third party candidates. The big lie is “Only a Democrat or a Republican can get elected.”

      3. Peatro Giorgio says

        Ask your self this question which party is it that is trying to weaken or wreck our nation. When one looks past all the glitter. What one then see’s is both establishments are just as culpable, just as guilty .Sure one puts on a better face ,a more rehearsed act. But their both sawn from the same cloth of crap. Can we now not see that combined together the Re-puke and the demo rat party are truly on the down wards spiral for the vast majority of the electorate now considers themselves as independent. As do I. Yes Fiscal Conservative, social Libertarian Individual rights Equals individual responsibilities leaning Tea- party Patriot. Completely Undeniably Independent. Not a sheep.Yes a sheepdog.

        1. Kathy W says

          Peatro, , I am a fiscal conservative, social libertarian-leaning, individual rights and responsibilities believer, and an admirer of the Tea-party patriots. The Tea Party is how our forefathers meant us to be. I am a Republican as I believe they hold with all the values we do, except for isolationism. I believe we are a leader in the world and so I am a Republican but would vote for any Independent with my values. The Republicans do not have glitter and are not panderers and that is why we can’t win lately, much to the country’s loss. The Republicans just need to get out of the social issues which also bring us down.

          1. Peatro Giorgio says

            Dear Kathy! My friend and fellow Patriot.
            Friend have you ever consider that you may very well be blinded by your very own partisan bias.
            Running or hiding from social issues is rather ignorant . For they are a rather large driving force behind and up front in the game of politics. Having well thought out solutions, grounded in fairness , being upfront and forthright. Is the only means by which you win over the debates on those issues. Which by the way is exactly the way you win fiscal issues debates.. Fools run ,wise men and woman stand up, stand fast and fight the good fight. On all fronts .The re-puke parties problem is one of weak links .cowards, liars, back stabbers, rinos. The demo rats do not have that problem. Their problem is it’s the party of freaking lunatics.
            Which brings us back to you my dear friend. Do you not think it time to awaken, arise from your sleep and join the independent, free thinking, free spirited crowd. Which by the way is the driving force behind the TEA -Party.
            As well the libertarian Party. Though I find some of the libertarians Ideas rather off the wall. Isolation and legalized of all narcotics , drugs to be two such off the wall Ideas. God Bless you Sister. Please do not take offense non was intended. I am just being honest with my thoughts and opinions. Peatro.

          2. Kathy W says

            Believe me, I would vote for any Tea Party candidate I think could win.
            When I was working for the Republicans, we rallied with the Tea Party and cheered them on. I see President Reagan and Bush to be the two greatest presidents but I would consider our earliest presidents Tea Party people, if you had to describe them. Republicans are for law and order and a strong military and world leadership. That is something I’ve believed in all my life. I was a Democrat and became a Reagan Republican and was influenced strongly by social issues. I now wonder if our Libertarian views means that the federal candidates should step back from social issues, except for trying to get unbiased supreme court members when they need to. So, I am open-minded and I understand the Tea Party has the purest, most educated, most historical, the most law-abiding and honest people I have ever met. I would fight for you. There are many Republicans who have the backbone and honesty and history of the as the Tea Party does. Fight on.

    5. sunshinegirl says

      Amen! You speak for many of us Gabriel King. Wish the ones that are still sleeping would wake up. Thanks for your comment.

    6. pmbalele says

      2 corrupt parties, 1 corrupt nation. No it’s the people and leave Democrats alone. For instance, Sanders and many progressives want 4-year college education to be free.
      That is you have to compete and score high to attend university education which
      will be free. But you and many progressives do not know what Walker and TP operatives
      are doing in Wisconsin. Governor Walker wants
      to replace universities with 2-year technical colleges. That means no doctors, lawyers;
      nurses; engineers; space scientists; bio-professionals and other professionals
      will be trained in Wisconsin. This is because there won’t be any universities
      in Wisconsin-given Walker’s budget proposals. Walker is mad he was kicked out
      of university-because of bad behavior.
      Now it’s his time for revenge-getting rid of universities. And here you’re telling us liberals are
      destroying America. I believe doing away
      with university education will kill America. I suggest you call your friend
      Walker and ask him why he trying to close universities in Wisconsin.

      1. John W. Davis says

        The dims ARE the problem , with their Solcilist places, their Pure disregard for the Constitution. As for the rest of post I made a copy for the bottom of my Bird cage.

      2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

        No one EVER SAID: “ALL Republicans are good people.” We need to first stop assuming that everyone in one party or the other is the BEST choice merely by party affiliation. Democrats are Marxists typically with a hint of Adolf Hitleresque lunacy for flavor. I mean “the #1 threat to US national security is Global Warming!?” With ISIS/ISIL, the economy, civil unrest, and various other issue this is what the Dems say needs to be tackled NOW!? Do you understand WHAT exactly would happen if the oceans DID rise 8-12 inches in 100 years? We would lose about 22-28ft of beach worldwide. That is IF global warming WAS a preventable man-made issue – which it is not, it is astronomical. Only about 5% of scientists support global warming and most of them have liberal agendas.

        1. pineapple says

          ‘Claim of consensus is fake’

          Science group ‘reviewing its stance on global warming’ after 160 physicists
          sign petition

          By: Marc Morano – Climate DepotNovember 2, 2009 5:43 AM

          The following letter signed
          by five physicists was sent to all 100 U.S. Senator’s on October 29, 2009.
          The letter is reproduced in full below:

          A GAGGLE IS NOT A

          You have recently received a
          letter from the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS),
          purporting to convey a “consensus” of the scientific community that immediate
          and drastic action is needed to avert a climatic catastrophe.

          We do not seek to make the
          scientific arguments here (we did that in an
          earlier letter, sent a couple of months ago), but simply to note that the
          claim of consensus is fake, designed to stampede you into actions that will
          cripple our economy, and which you will regret for many years. There is no
          consensus, and even if there were, consensus is not the test of scientific
          validity. Theories that disagree with the facts are wrong, consensus or no.

          We know of no evidence that
          any of the “leaders” of the scientific community who signed the letter to you
          ever asked their memberships for their opinions, before claiming to represent
          them on this important matter.

          We also note that the
          American Physical Society (APS, and we are physicists) did not sign the letter,
          though the scientific issues at stake are fundamentally matters of applied
          physics. You can do physics without climatology, but you can’t do climatology
          without physics.

          The APS is at this moment
          reviewing its stance on so-called global warming, having received a Team of
          Scientists’ Open Letter To U.S.
          Senators: petition from its membership to do so. That petition was signed by
          160 distinguished members and fellows of the Society, including one Nobelist
          and 12 members of the National Academies. Indeed a score of the signers are
          Members and Fellows of the AAAS, none of whom were consulted before the AAAS
          letter to you.

          Professor Hal Lewis, University of California,
          Santa Barbara

          Professor Fred Singer, University of Virginia

          Professor Will Happer, Princeton University

          Professor Larry Gould, University of Hartford

          Dr. Roger Cohen, retired
          Manager, Strategic Planning, ExxonMobil

          List of 160 signers of the
          APS petition available at

          Climate Depot’s
          Related Links:

          Scientists Write Open Letter to Congress: ‘You Are Being
          Deceived About Global Warming’ — ‘Earth has been cooling for ten years’ – July
          1, 2009

          Climate Revolt: World’s Largest Science Group ‘Startled’
          By Outpouring of Scientists Rejecting Man-Made Climate Fears! Clamor for Editor
          to Be Removed! – July 29, 2009

          American Physical Society to review its current climate
          statement after a group of 80 prominent physicists petitioned APS revise – May
          1, 2009

          Physical Society editor conceded a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists –

          Polish National Academy of Science ‘published a document skeptical of man-made global warming’ – April 2008

          Climate Fears RIP…for 30 years!? – Global Warming could
          stop ‘for up to 30 years! Warming ‘On Hold?…’Could go into hiding for decades,’
          peer-reviewed study finds – – March 2, 2009

          March 2009 U.
          S. Senate Report: ‘More Than 700 International Scientists Dissenting Over
          Man-Made Global Warming Claims’

          India Issued a report challenging global warming fears –

          Canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian scientists revealed
          68% disagree that global warming science is “settled” – 2008

          Geoscience Union symposium 2008 survey ‘showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe
          the IPCC report’

          Skeptical scientists overwhelm Prestigious Geologist
          conference in Norway in 2008: ’2/3 of presenters and question-askers were
          hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC’
          & see full reports here & here

          Petition signed by over 31,000 American
          scientists: ‘There is no convincing scientific evidence that greenhouse gasses
          are causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating’ –

        2. donemyhomework says

          The Politicians have a tendency to try to divert your focus on something other than solving the real problem… kind of like a “bait and switch” tactic. Has any of them said anything about the economy or the incredible National Debt? No. None of them want to deal with that. Same thing for the Muslim problem. That’s going to get really nasty as the percentage of Muslims in this Country grow. Are they going to mention that? No. So the truth is that they’re running for office on a pseudo-platform.

    7. Nancy says

      So true Gabriel King. I would like to see Carly Fiorina go after Hiliar!! The men aren’t allowed to bash her, it would be racist, but Carly would!!

    8. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

      Then we need to strike the snake at it’s head and stop poking around the tip of the tail.

    9. Westin Sandberg says

      I agree with almost everything you just said, the only problem i have with your statement is you sound like you think this country is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRACY, which its not, this country is supposed to be a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, which if you take the time to learn the difference, will make you a very irate individual.

    10. hora says

      GOP are not to corrupt like Dems, who are real mental sick criminals.GOP still have many good peoples, but Dems are a piece of shit criminals insane.

    11. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

      This may be offensive [contains George Carlin RIP explicit language] but just shows — even years ago — people were on to this (Food for thought here)…

      So who is ready to do something? Or are we (American Patriots) going to armchair it another term and watch as things continue get even worse? Because the declining trend of the last century of the World shows no sign of turning itself around. Which means we, as LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD! WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA — need to make something happen to stop it…

      Because if we don’t… who will?

      1. donemyhomework says

        That’s right. Local grass roots free speech organizations. I’ll check that out in my own community.

        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          As George would say it, “I TELL YOU SHIT, JUST LIKE IT IS!!”

  4. Brenda says

    Yes, there are a lot of candidates on the GOP side. But, by virtue of the fact that they have taken the risk of running, they should be heard. So maybe a candidate is not ahead in the polls, but we all either know or suspect that polls are slanted in favor of the response the pollster wishes to achieve. Right now the push is on for bush, an undeclared candidate; yet, based on his polling numbers he is likely to be in the first debate.
    Why not random selection of the field and have a series of debates?

  5. red55bird says

    Put names in a hat and let them draw period, polls do not tell the hold story of a nation, millions in central states and the south have little to do with polls, only north east and California dictate Conservatives values, and the last time I looked they don’t look Conservative to me.

  6. Carol Notermann says

    I too believe we have to clean out the decaying “fill their own pockets first” from our government. Then start in on those that feel the need to do and vote for what’s best for them AND NOT THE NATION. Our American Dream is still alive… Most Americans are hard working and love our Nation… (which I do NOT feel is corrup! )… But I agree many of our legislaters have been corrupted by the “Washington Hanger Ons” We need to really have a Washington Tea Party… Not the Republican off shoot…. but as in the past election…. We need to dump the liars and cheets and those that campaign by smearing the opposition… We need to have candidates stop the dirty politics and inform ‘WE THE PEOPLE” of what they plan to do to fix our beloved Country and bring her out of this “Time of Disrespect” Our Nation needs a candidates that love her (unlike the present administration). People who will work diligently to bring her back to America the Beautiful… Land of the FREE…It has always been the Home of the BRAVE

    1. johnny51 says

      We the people need candidates that don’t mind exposing the opposition for what they are …..

  7. Peatro Giorgio says

    Well here’s Fox news trying to pick our nominees. And their claiming that their not biases. Or their non Partisan . ( Yea right. ) and I got a giant lake in the middle of death valley Do you want to buy it ?it’s for sale. Just like Fox news is in for the Establishment class of the Rino lying rip off repukes.

    1. Jackie says

      If you follow the money trail it will lead to all parties regardless of affiliation. FOX is the only conservative news outlet for conservatives.

      1. Nancy says

        AMEN!! And Peatro, they are not BIAS!! Have you heard any news of the lame brain mainstream media?? They are owned by Soros and he and Oba’me’ tells them what NOT to say!! Wake Peatro!!

  8. wildeagleone says

    I say those that are not included should crash the party and show up en masse and debate the ten the RNC chooses whether or not Reince and Rove disagree. It is we the people that are supposed to vote for the President not just the two of them and if I had my choice, the two of them would be thrown out of their comfortable positions

  9. G.Mann says

    Ok.. let me get this right. Air time is so precious that only 10 people will be allowed to speak and debate in public. While, at the same time, we preserve air time for really important stuff, like reality shows and the Kardashians. Did I get that right? Is this the critical thinking path the news media is using? Talking heads and sensless sitcoms are more important than finding what people who are running for President really stand for? Monday night sports time is more important than selecting our next leader of the free world?
    Why are we to be limited to one “only one winner” debate? Why are we not instead better served by the media by a series of debates which permit all who are running the same opportunity to make their voice heard by all who choose to listen? Why am I, as a Citizen, treated as not capable of making my own decisions about who stands for America and who would represent my views best while serving as President?
    Anyone know who to contact at the head of all the news media companies to press this viewpoint?
    Since when did “news media” earn the right to make choices for Citizens? What act of God gave them the right to take my Right to Vote by controling the information I receive about those who seek office?
    By strict definition, is this not an act of sedition? [look it up, understand what I’m saying]. The Bill of Rights can not be changed, and the First Amendment is the right of free speech, which includes free listening also. I view any act by media which restricts the right of free speech in a campaign by restricting that persons voice over another persons voice as a violation of First Amendment.
    Isn’t that exactly what is happening in this case?

    1. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

      ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to
      Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

      CBS President
      David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security
      Adviser for Strategic Communications.

      ABC News
      correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary
      Jay Carney

      ABC News and
      Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy
      Press Secretary

      ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s
      Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

      CNN President
      Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom

      1. donemyhomework says

        They bought the media.

        1. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

          I think they already owned the media before that anyway. I mean the real masters. Those heads of the fortune 500 businesses and such. I think they bought the White House is the real observation here.

          You see people that realize something is up will blame the banks, they are 20% right. Then those “in the know” will blame the US Treasury, they are a little closer maybe 35% correct. Others speculate that the real problem is the Fed or Wall Street, they are getting closer, let’s say 75% correct… The real problem, and those that are REALLY in control are the people that are funding the Fed and Wall Street. Those ultra-elitist rich people that BUY the Fed and Wall Street debts and then loan them MORE money to recklessly spend without anyone to answer to but the lenders themselves. The debt falls onto the head of the American tax payer, who is now born into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt each.

          To fix this situation we need a truly thorough and publicly transparent audit of the Fed, Wall St., and the US Treasury Dept., and we need to have the entire credit based system of the “Derivatives Market” in the US released as a public record. We need to rid ourselves of anyone involved in any/all reckless spending, missing monies, fraudulent activities, and any forms of corporate conspiracy or corruption tried and executed for high treason.

          Without the knowledge of where the money is coming from, how it is being obtained, what we are being indebted for, and where the money is going — we have no handle on the situation because we don’t know who we are answering to or why, and we don’t know what is expected of us and when it will be expected.

          This is the core function of the American economy and it is a total mystery even to many of our billionaires. Why is our monetary system a secret?

          Also, what is the nation’s gross annual income and then what is it’s net spending? What is our true annual overhead?

          Then what government agencies and private contracts do we have out that non-productive (or otherwise not cost-effective) that we can be rid of? What industries can we transfer those workers into so the people/nation doesn’t suffer from the closing of the dead offices?

          Why are we not already focusing on these audits?

          I mean you or I don;t pay our taxes at the end of the year the IRS is knocking at the door (shoot even if you make a $100 mistake they will) — why is our government and the agencies/companies that are funding/managing it not being accountable to a similar standard?

          These are some of the major root issues in play here. We get these things straightened out then we can focus on the lesser important items.

          Also, the secondary issue is national security. We need to wrangle in the dissenting national terrorists and warring international terrorists… period. We need to quit worrying what the people of Burundi or Maldives think about stand against terror and our foreign policy measures. We NEED to honor our treaties with our allies and stomp mudholes in our enemies, and enemies of our friends – without letting up.

          And after we kick someone’s ass we don’t go back next year and spend billions on repairing their nation. After I fight someone I don’t go nurse their wounds – I drink a shot of Jack and gloat to my buddies how I kicked his ass and send the punk packing! Retards that want to fight (usually unprovoked or unreasonably) need to lick their own wounds — otherwise there is no lesson learned and no humility gained.

          If every one of the 320 million tax paying American citizens agreed to pay $2540.63 each… We could nullify the US’s rollover $813 billion debt ($561 billion borrowed, and $252 billion in back interest) we could be back in the black and throw these cocks out of the henhouse. If we don’t owe them anything they no longer own us…

          Just my opinion anyway.

          1. donemyhomework says

            Good points, you’ve done your homework.

          2. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

            Thanks… Good ole Sun Tzu – “know your enemies,” and “choose your battles wisely.” I am ready to battle and I need to know why and what endgame I am hoping for. Without a focal point and endgame any strategy in between is a loss.

          3. donemyhomework says

            The only thing I see that can be done is to communicate, stock up and prepare, and choose your friends wisely. Because when it get’s down to it, the enemy will be hard to differentiate from a noncombatant. Especially since hundreds and thousands of women and children have been captured and trained as suicide bombers, And a lot of those have come to America.

      2. ittlebite says

        That is some really good homework you did there. How about that. Hummm. Even people around the world know that Americans do NOT get the real news.

    2. donemyhomework says

      You have really really good points.

  10. pennysca says

    I truly wish there was not so many interested in the race. Some I can’t believe want to run or to think they should. It is getting really ridiculous . FOX NEWS idea is a good one what else are you going to do. Half should not even be thinking of running.

    1. Nina says

      I somewhat agree with you. I see Santorum up there, nice guy, not a chance. Can’t recall all the names in my head that I have seen on the TV screen but I know in their minds they have something to offer and I commend them for that bc they are all good ppl. They are not Obama!! They are not Hillary!!!

  11. pennysca says

    EGOS better get out of the way. We have to save this country and we Republicans have to win to make that happen.

  12. Tracy Jones says

    To all people who are reading this,DO NOT vote for Hillary Clinton for president.If she wins the presidential
    election she is going to carry over ALL of president Obama’s policies and even worse.Hillary must NOT
    win the White House if she does,you can count on more of our civil rights to be violated and even taken
    away from us.Remember,a vote for Hillary Clinton,is a vote for Barack Obama!

    1. Nina says

      I do believe Hillary the lying fool will be long gone before August!!! The Dems just have to come up with some viable candidates so Obama doesn’t take this opportunity to NEVER LEAVE!!!!

    2. johnny51 says

      Witch is a vote for communism …

    3. pineapple says

      Six Questions……..

      The following
      is incredible! I didn’t
      get one correct answer. Prepare for a shock at the answer and prepare yourself
      for the next election !!

      Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it’s
      kind of fun and revealing. If you don’t know the answers make your best guess.

      Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers. And,
      no, the answers to these questions aren’t all “Barack Obama”.

      1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

      A. Karl Marx

      B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin

      D. Barack Obama E.

      None of the above

      2) “It’s
      time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and
      for the few…… And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared

      A Lenin

      B. Mussolini

      C. Idi Amin

      D. Barack Obama

      None of the above

      3) “(We)…..can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means
      something has to be taken away from some people.”

      A. Nikita Khrushev

      B. Joseph Goebbels

      C. Boris Yeltsin

      D. Barack Obama

      E. None of the above

      4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to
      give up a little bit of their own … in order to create this common

      A. Mao Tse Tung

      B. Hugo Chavez

      C. Kim Jong II

      D. Barack Obama

      E. None of the above

      5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”

      A. Karl Marx

      B. Lenin

      C. Molotov

      D. Barack Obama

      E. None of the above

      6) “I
      think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the > >>
      most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being

      A. Pinochet

      B. Milosevic

      C. Saddam Hussein

      D. Barack Obama

      E. None of the above.

      ………Scroll down for answers

      And the
      answers are ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      (1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

      (2) E. None of the above.
      Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

      (3) E. None of the above.
      Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

      (4) E. None of the above.
      Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

      (5 ) E None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

      (6). E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

      **** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president if you don’t
      forward this to everyone that you know.

      — Amazing. Six Questions…………..

  13. CrustyOldGeezer says

    Have the debates between the NON politicians and the little known, fairly new politicians.

    The well known names have records that should be the ONLY thing people should consider when voting.

    Career Politicians have gotten this nation to the sewer we currently have to live in.

    IF the record supports the rhetoric, fine. if it doesn’t, they have no seat at the table.

  14. fred says

    The MSM is calling the shots! Why not just bypass those criminals and start your OWN network, and start telling the truth about how horrible the MSM IS !??

    1. pineapple says

      case you thought there might be some bias in news reporting….

      How’s this for having the “inside track”?


      ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to
      Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

      CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes,
      Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

      ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former
      Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney

      ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to
      Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

      ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s
      Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

      CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary
      Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.

      And now you know why it is no surprise the media is in
      Obama’s pocket.

      Ya think there might be a little bias in the news ???

      It also explains the cover up of Benghazi………

      1. fred says

        You are the only source I have seen for this shockingly corrupt information on the criminal MSM and potus connection. ALL these people need to be indicted and convicted of FRAUD and treason!

  15. ART L LINDMAN says

    those who announced early are certainly advantaged…..some good candidates have not even announced yet… over ?….Last time cable news had their favorites….ie….Fox News for one.

    Hewett Huett had the idea of the two tier and run the debate for 4 hours…those interested in the debate could go youtube and listen as they wish….

  16. darsey says

    I say get rid of government period they have done nothing but ruin us thanks to this administration

  17. dtk1952 says

    Help elect Dr. Ben Carson. He is not a DC Insider.

  18. pupster40 says

    The Three Stooges or Abbot & Costello would make more sense than listening to this your turn/my turn to screw up the Country. The whole thing is like everything else in politics, it’s a bag-job from the gitgo, Who can stuff the most money in their pockets and screw the slugs who vote.

  19. snowyriver says

    Who decides who the top ten candidates are?

  20. Alleged Comment says

    Yeah, sorry Carly, TOP TEN only.

    Don’t want you to forget to pay your staffers again after you scored $120 million last time and you have the personality of DEAD FISH!

  21. pattonknew says

    with all of todays technology and all the self procalimed elitists this is the best they could come up with….or its a simple matter of the choices were presented with rather than the more realistic options that are available – I mean how do shows like american idle work for example so at least the format is balanced in a simple elimination process.

    very, very difficult.

  22. says

    Yup, the Bible predicts the Great war which will last 3.3 years, against the red dragon. (Symbol of Communism.)

  23. JIMBO says

    Debate or No debate. I am having serious problems with all the reps. in Washington. It just seems that they all have forgotten there oath of office the minutes that elections are over and they are sitting in there plush offices. This country is being overtaken by a BUNCH OF SELFISH POLITICIANS. I just heard that Obama is worth of 15 Million dollars. How in the hell did he accumulate this kind of money during his short stay as president? The american people are worried sick over being able to keeps what little they are able to save over a lifetime of hard work. They politicians just sit back and see the money role in while destroying everything that was good about this country. I am still wondering if we really won the last elections!!!

  24. arcing says

    The problem is that Fox is owned by an Australian liberal. He realizes that he can make money catering to conservatives. However Fox covers the same tripe as everyone else, their morning shows cover the same issues for the same amount of time as the rest. Who gives a flip about news coverage of debates? The only good debate in the last presidential election was the third party debates on line with Larry King as one of the moderators. The rest were simply machine politicians and their supporting media.

  25. disqus_MZe2ymfHQj says

    Instead of having debates, I think they should take one candidate at a time and ask them all the questions
    that reveals their thinking on each policy. Just because someone can out talk the others, doesn’t mean
    he would be best President. So I’m against debates.

  26. firesale says

    I was once a democrat and was told by the leading democratic leader in our area this was 1986 that the party was going to invaded by the socialist I asked why ? The answer was there were so many low informed voters they would be easy targets.

  27. wapitihunter says

    It is not two corrupt parties but 1 and 1/2. I do not know an honest demoncrat. There are way too many Rinos in the other party. We are no longer a nation with a gay Muslim in charge and open borders. We need to take our nation back. NO Fing cable channel should decide $hit. There is only one media group that I trust and I don’t trust all of them. WHy let any of the biggies carry it. It doesn’t cost that much to broadcast nationwide. Let Rush Limbaugh MC the deal. Demoncraps can do whatever they want. F the mainstream propaganda networks.

  28. wapitihunter says

    AND the RNC.

  29. Robert G. Smith says

    As honest men the ten that are chosen should refuse to participate unless ALL possible nominees are allowed to participate.

  30. Robert G. Smith says

    The best person I have seen to carry the conservative thoughts into the 2016 elections is the former representative from Florida, Allen West. You have all heard that he carries a lot of baggage. The baggage he carries I consider a badge of honor. He was forced to retire because he fired a weapon close to a prisoners head in an effort to gain information that would protect his troops. The weak kneed sisters that forced him to retire are the ones that carry the baggage. If you are a conservative talk to your local political leaders and get their backing for a true conservative, one that puts his country and troops before himself.

  31. Genesis Moran says

    Good article but better is

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