PolitiFact Makes an Extraordinary Claim About Hillary Clinton and the FBI

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The late, great film critic Roger Ebert used to grumble about being forced to provide star ratings for the movies he reviewed, saying there was no way to accurately characterize his thoughts on any given movie using such a restrictive system. When readers would complain about one star rating Ebert gave compared to another, he would implore them to ignore the stars as best they could and instead focus on what he had actually written about the films.

That’s not only good advice when it comes to movie reviews; it’s good advice when it comes to reading PolitiFact.

The difference being that you wouldn’t read a scathing Ebert review and then scroll to the bottom of the page to see he’d given the movie in question four stars. To one degree or another, the rating he slapped on the film would be consistent with the text. There was an internal logic to it.

That’s not the case with PolitiFact. Regardless of whether or not you agree with their partisan views – which are undeniably liberal – you should at least be able to discern their Truth-O-Meter rating from their own text on a given question. All too often, however, that’s not the case. And a recent fact-check illustrates the problem perfectly.

The fact to be checked? Donald Trump’s December 4th contention: “Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI.”

Here’s some of what PolitiFact had to say about that claim:

“Clinton exclusively used personal email when she was secretary of state between 2009 and 2013, the New York Times revealed, choosing to rely on two email servers in the basement of her home in Chappaqua, N.Y,” they wrote. “Clinton repeatedly claimed she did not have any classified emails on her server from time at the State Department, but an FBI investigation found some classified information ended up on her private server, which was an unclassified system.”

This is called a lie.

Okay, but the claim is not that she lied to the American people but that she lied to the FBI, a point PolitiFact later highlights.

“The distinction between what Clinton told the FBI and what she told the public is important,” they wrote. “Clinton earned a Pants on Fire for claiming that, regarding the presence of classified information in her email, ‘Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people.’”

Here, without any evidence at all, they are making the following case: That Hillary lied to the American people and then lied AGAIN by telling them that she told the FBI the same thing. But PolitiFact themselves admit that they have no idea what she told the FBI: “There is no transcript of the interview that FBI agents had with Clinton on July 2, 2016, about her email usage.”

Furthermore: “[FBI Director James] Comey was not present for the discussion.”

Mmm-hmm. So how do we end up with this conclusion?

“We at PolitiFact don’t know exactly what Clinton told FBI investigators. We also know, however, that Trump failed to back up his allegation. Former FBI director Comey in congressional testimony said there was no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI. We rate Trump’s claim False.”

Uhhh…

This isn’t “fact checking.” This is choosing to believe one individual who wasn’t present for Clinton’s interrogation over another individual who wasn’t present for Clinton’s interrogation. Worse, it is choosing to ignore the one person – Clinton – who WAS present and insists that what she told the FBI was consistent with what she told the public. And what she told the public was not “inaccurate”…was not “misleading”…but was an outright LIE.

We can’t say with any more certainty than PolitiFact whether or not Clinton lied to the FBI during that soft, just-to-say-we-did-it interview last summer; the FBI probably didn’t even question her hard enough to make it necessary. But we can say that PolitFact did NOT prove that what Trump said was “false” by any stretch of the imagination. And that earns them the Fix This Nation Truth-O-Meter rating of FAKE NEWS.

518 Comments
  1. Deby says

    Ok, so when does the lying end?

    1. gotabgood says

      When Trump gets out of office… either by being mentally handicapped, impeachment, or voted out in 2020 .
      There is another way…. God forbid…. it involves nuclear weapons with NK.

      1. Retired says

        They won’t use Nukes as it destroys to much , remember the world is depending on our water and Crops .

        1. gotabgood says

          You forget who is in charge of the countries involved…. They are ordering a mental exam on Trump.. I think they said this coming week… did I say mental exam… hahaha… well maybe… but I think they said physical exam, which may include a mental which is truly needed.
          And you live in a fairy land thinking that USA supplies all the above. First place half of Russia is ice, so plenty of water… China grows more rice then any other place in the world, which is better for you than potatoes and maybe even our corn now, since everything is done by chemicals. Sad day when Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million corporate farm workers..

          1. Retired says

            We export Rice and Water , you are behind on that one .Republicans and farmers were always in the same nest I have only run into one farmer that ran as a democrat and that was in democrat country .

          2. gotabgood says

            Maybe…. no references….
            But you can bet it is for some exchange of something we no longer make…. like steal…. or aluminum…. or maybe just a load of refrigerators.. or TV’s
            I know California grows a lot of rice, I don’t know of another state that does,but still in no comparison to China. Japan, well ALL Asian countries and some in the middle east.
            Water…. I don’t know about that… when most of the lake levels are down including the Great Lakes, Western states are always in conflict over the Colorado River and their reservoirs are way down..
            This was taken a couple years back….

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ffe99bc8d71fa085c8f9b7df081473d0fef758965078d17bfd6ce25e74aff5c.jpg

          3. Retired says

            Southern states east of the Mississipi grow a lot of rice .I was surprised to see it and inquired it mainly goes for export at the time .The great lakes levels have been high and water bottling plants have been built and much of it goes for export . Last time I was at hover dam water level was way down and last pictures showed it lower yet . Global warming is not a hoax but man made by shifting manufacturing to Asia and transporting it to the USA .We have more trucks on the road which are heavy poluters and burn lots of fuel .So was it smart to ship our manufacturing out of the country and polute another part of the world ???? I remember Obama picture standing next to the pipes for the Keystone line that were made in India how long do you think those pipes will last with the corrosive tar sand oil ??? Canada would not build the pipe line in their own country even after China offered to finance it and build a refinery on their west coast . Don’t you find that strange ???

          4. gotabgood says

            Also Trump is building his towers with China steel.
            It sounds like we are at least looking at the same page on global warming and the things we can and should be doing right now.
            An agreement is one you have with one or more parties, (countries), when you are looked at (still, kinda) as the leader of the world, they expect you to set an example… pulling out of the Paris Agreement at best was childish at worse very stupid and dangerous. For many years we have always said, (rightwing), what good does it do to clean up our act when China and India are worse polluters of all… Now China is leading the way in green energy, Japan is building India a hi-speed rail system…. USA… we are busy giving tax cuts and cutting healthcare and making yet again phony claims about trickledown… people didn’t learn the first time…. so we will do the same thing only this time with better results.. HA!

          5. Retired says

            China is the main steel supplier these days , Belgium is another which produces better quality steel . We need to build new plants that run clean . Things will not change until we get term limits and have a complete turn over in congress . Some of the Old Goats in both parties need to be sent out to pasture .

          6. Mathew Molk says

            Hey genius. – Where is the most efficient steel mill in all respects the world?

            It’s in Cleveland and is 100% union.

            Again, go look it up.

          7. Retired says

            Hey you are stuck in Cleveland , PA has some too . But they can not meet the demand . The best comes out of Belgium thanks to Gov. controls on Mining . China depends on NK for making its steel . So you are a little behind the times GENIOUS ????

          8. Mathew Molk says

            Clueless again…..You really need to go take some manufacturing technology classes. You have NO idea of what you are talking about.

            Canada is a NWO Marxist country all the way. They have gone over the edge and we need to watch them because I can see them attempting to do us harm in the not too distant future.

          9. Retired says

            What the hell does Canada have to do with our problems other than abusing the US with their pipe line . How many leaks have there been so far with that system ???? Then there is how many Gasoline pipelines have leaked and contaminated the ground water. Didn’t you learn anything from Texas hurricane ???? You seem to forget Clinton through Obama were NWO and UN puppets .

      2. Francisco Machado says

        Your belief that getting Trump out of office will make Hillary tell the truth defies reason. Truth is not within her capacity. She is an impulsive, driven liar – on even completely pointless issues when she cannot but know people will be aware she’s lying. Named after Sir Edmund? Landing under fire? There was no rational motive for these. And the “no classified emails…” when all the email traffic went through her private server – and she was Secretary of State? Why try to totally destroy the emails she didn’t submit to the State Department? The thousands of relevant emails she was found not to have submitted – after claiming all had been given to the State Department? Hillary’s lies will outlive her whether Trump is in office or out.

        1. ABO says

          Gotabamoron is a lemming for the liberal/regressive cause, Francisco. Things like truth and facts mean nothing to him.

  2. Bill O'Neil says

    A recent headline stated that Trump tells an average of 9 lies every day which clearly makes the “Liar in Chief” the main focus of investigation when it comes to lies.

    1. Retired says

      Out spreading fake news just like the media , you are a tweet guppy just like the media . The NE and what Hollywood produces is about your speed .

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        That is all you RWNJ’s have is to call facts fake news. Easily verified, look it up!

        1. Retired says

          The nut jobs are people like you who still swallow Obama Juice , which has effected your thinking . Hillary did the USA a favor giving us Trump instead of her .

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            You shun facts like a vampire shuns sunlight.

          2. Retired says

            Wrong , I see where both sides have screwed the average people . I am not like you who refuses like Congress and federal Judges to give Trump a chance to do anything . You swallow everything the Media and Unions put out there . Congress won’t let Trump get his appointments . The Democrat and Republicans need to demote the top leaders in both houses .

          3. Bill O'Neil says

            Actually tRump has failed to name hundreds of people to fill vacancies in the federal government. Just shows how stupid he is or how much he doesn’t care. I’m curious what your repeated hatred for unions stems from. I’ve never had the privilege of belonging to one, but I do know the history of unions being a big reason for the great expansion of the middle class back in the day. Of course the Republiklans have always hated the unions, as they don’t want the little people to get more than crumbs falling off the table set for the donor class.

          4. Retired says

            There you go again not knowing the facts about the appointments . McConnell is siting on a stack of appointments , all because of the 2018 election . Just like you don’t know anything about Unions . Gov. employees unions are draining your wallet . They start with your local Gov. jobs all the way up to the federal level .They pay very little for health insurance or pension and that is where you get most of the democrat vote from . The educators Union is the worst of the bunch .

          5. Bill O'Neil says

            You sound like someone who once tried to get a union job and was turned down and have been mad at the unions ever since with your misdirected anger.

          6. Retired says

            There you go again assuming without facts .I paid dues for many years and most went to the national headquarters , where the big cheeses made big salaries . The educators union is the worst of the Bunch today that take the biggest chunk out of your tax dollar . You either pay it through property tax or sales tax .They work part time and expect full salary . Then come all the other Gov. unions , try firing them lazy Bassturds sitting in federal offices , they move slower than a snail just like when you go to the post office counter . Unions have a place in manufacturing and not Gov. .

          7. Bill O'Neil says

            Unions have a place in every line of work. It’s something to keep the employers from running rough-shod over the workers. I would have loved to have a union back me up when I was working. I can remember a comment a friend of my dad said when I was a kid. He was a union member that worked at the wire mill. My dad asked him what he thought about those union dues he had to pay and the man said he didn’t care if the union bosses wiped their asses with it because that’s how important it was to him to have a union.

          8. Retired says

            Are you so nieve that when a contract is negotiated that your Union dues are included . Wages go up so do dues !!!! Some places take Union dues out twice a month because they have gotten so high . Up until the eighties Union dues were still reasonable . Unions are to protect the lazy and incompetent people . Teachers are supposedly smart so why do they need a union , can’t be to smart if you ask me .

          9. gotabgood says

            “Are you so nieve that when a contract is negotiated that your Union dues are included . Wages go up so do dues”
            I was in a union. I was making $19.50 an hour in the 90’s… hellovalot more than what some are making today! Our dues were around $50 a month, which included full healthcare, dental, eye care, retirement and paid vacation AND a safe environment!!
            The only one naive is you!! because you flat do not know what you are talking about…. PERIOD!!
            I would much rather pay union dues and have all the benefits, PLUS a good wage than to work at a RTW state and make half the amount and no benefits..
            below is a chart. I made $1 less than what the RTW states pay now. SAD!

            See the section where they have union contracts and the RTW has 7.3%? If it weren’t for that 7.3% the wages would be even lower.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/575a1be684a622e50a194ad86ddf93ab2f4ffced728db6b02db6916c3658d343.png

          10. Retired says

            That was about right as unions went to 2Hrs. pay for dues . By the 90s many big companies went self insured and there was no more free health care as premiums had started climbing .Remember the HMO and the health care accounts was going to make everything better . I don’t know where you get the $23.00 average as now most everything is ware housing of Chinas products , I don’t think that the auto industry pays that now unless it is skilled trade .

          11. gotabgood says

            Where I got the $23 average was from the chart I gave you, which includes the website address.
            It is hard to understand, but listen carefully what the original plan was for HMO’s and who started it. There is a transcript you can follow along with.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkgUkM0o6Q

          12. Retired says

            I was just interested as to where people are making that kind of money . Our former industrial area is nothing but warehousing plus a few years back Amazon moved into the area $10.00 – $13.00 .is what most are paying .

          13. gotabgood says

            I have to agree with you… we make nothing.. we started the TV and now we don’t make any. Laugh or cry Gore was involved with the internet. And now we make nothing that would use the internet, phone, computers, notebooks all made elsewhere.
            I read somewhere that our chips that guide our missiles are made in China… we better hope they didn’t include an on/off switch free of charge.
            Why does the GOP vote against infrastructure? Vote against hi-speed trains? Raise the cost of educating our kids… it should be free…. it is an investment in our future. The way of the worlds future IS NOT fossil fuel… but we worry about a dying coal mining industry, why? VOTES! China is weaning itself off coal. Does everything have to be for a profit?
            Even our farm equipment is made else where… ya know that people are so dependent on us.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/471bfad0be831be720c0b85a3c74caf00fc8993a56030fed342793082da5ba09.png

          14. Retired says

            Most of it you can blame on the Market boys and bean counters who only care about stuffing their pockets along with Lobbyist controlling politicians . Neither party is a angel .

          15. gotabgood says

            There is one party that does not forbid you to say “Climate Change” or “Global Warming”. There is one party that joined the Paris Agreement and one party that pulled us out. There are a few states that said we will do our own Paris Agreement. There is a party that believes in technology of the future and one who does not. There is a party that put solar panels on the WH and there was a party that took the panels down..
            Do you see a trend?

          16. Retired says

            I look at the pull out as a good thing one less cost to the government . We have the same problem with the UN telling us how to live and where to send money . The Paris thing reminds me of Gore jetting world wide and using Limos that get 4 miles to the gallon . We should be policing ourselves as to climate control . Just look at the problems in the EU the countries are controlled by the UN and the EU leadership plus their own country it is all on the tax payer . They had the Mayors conference in Chicago and Obama went , how much is he costing us with all the flying all over plus the pollution that goes with it . Look at all the China crap that is being trucked we probably have more trucks on the road than cars and they are not controlled like cars . Tesla and their electric cars will require more electricity to keep up and what happens to the batteries ??? do we burry them like nuclear waste ???? We waste more fuel making ethanol gas than we save on oil plus all the pipe line leaks that go into the ground water .. Remember the wonderful MBTE gas until they found it in the water supply .How will the Paris deal [ joke ] prevent all those problems ????

          17. gotabgood says

            “I look at the pull out as a good thing one less cost to the government”
            A good thing…. until you have to boil the water before you take a bath in it. Or gulp for air like a fish out of water..
            Then how much would you put the value of fresh supply of oxygen?
            Or what is the value of water that is not loaded with parasites?
            The experiment showed that with a 1°C increase in temperature, a single pioneer species of bryozoan (Fenestrulina rugula) took off. That one species ultimately dominated the community, driving a reduction in overall species diversity and evenness within two months. Individuals of a marine worm, Romanchella perrieri, also grew to an average size 70 percent larger than those under ambient conditions, the researchers report.

            Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-08-antarctic-ocean-degree-lots.html#jCp

          18. Retired says

            Here is a interesting one fore you about global warming . which no one like Gore talk about . Every spring they break the ice by the north and south pole so the Ships can travel , why not let it melt on its own . So what good is the Paris deal when that goes on , it’s a bunch of rich Bassturds trying to control the World like the Bilderberg Group , they jet all over the world and sit in their fancy Limos while the rest suffer . Like I said before Cars have to meet strict standards while the big rigs destroy the air moving imports and wasting oil that can not be replenished . It is a vicious circle that never seems to end .

          19. gotabgood says

            As the ‘blue Arctic’ expands thanks to global warming, an icebreaker finds no ice to break
            http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2016/01/30/an-icebreaker-with-no-ice-to-break-in-blue-arctic/#.Wi544kqWZEY

          20. Retired says

            That Ice breaking was done for decades way before our jobs went to China . If I was as good on the Computers as you are I would . Hey we got along and had good discussion on Friday .

          21. gotabgood says

            True…. no name calling…. even agreed on a few things…. so life is a little brighter. smile

            As you say icebreakers have been going on for a lot of decades.
            You put a pot of water on the stove and turn on the heat to maximum. It doesn’t start to boil right away, it goes through warming cycles, After a minute, it is still not boiling, but it is warmer than when you first started. This is what is happening to our oceans and mainly around the poles. If it is -50*… that is cold. But if it warms up to -40*.. it is still cold to you and I, but the ice doesn’t have to heat up so much to start melting and when it freezes again, it is not so thick and then we have more water and the whole cycle begins with a warmer starting point. The last 15 or 16 heat records have all been since 2000. This year is on track in becoming the 3rd hottest year on record, so that will mean 16 or 17 of the hottest years are since 2000.
            Parts of Miami are in trouble… far as that goes, also New York

          22. Retired says

            What I am saying is it should have stopped over 50 years ago . Put a candle under that pot of water how long does it take to boil , same thing with letting the ice melt on it’s own . Every AC unit produces heat . blacktop roads get hotter in the summer than Concreate . We shifted Manufacturing to Asia and all those plane and Ship loads had nothing to do with warming . then there is the Pollution coming with the winds . It is a vicious circle . As far as flooding goes it has happened all over because we are building out instead of up .

          23. Mathew Molk says

            I don’t’ know,,,,Thought you were supposed to be a conservative, or at very least a libertarian, but the more I read the more I think you are a progressive or even a closet NWO Marxist.

            ” big rigs destroy the air ???????” WTF, over. Did you know that all on-road light, medium and heavy-duty vehicles powered by diesel and
            built after January 1, 2007, must meet diesel particulate emission
            limits and require diesel catalyst oxidation fluid or they will not run? – Go look it if if you don’t believe me,,,,,just check anywhere that diesel fuel is sold too. – It goes in a separate tank and the computer will not let you go over 20 MPH without it. – You really need to get some real world training there, pal.

            Anybody against capitalism is an enemy of America and our Judaeo/Christian way of life.

            Just where do you stand, my friend?

          24. Retired says

            You do not like facts . Our diesel fuel is of a lower quality than in the EU . It is not just VW that cheated on the Diesel emissions . How many Big rigs are pulled in for emission checks ??? You will not figure me out so quit trying . If I was OWO/NWO would I hammer the UN – IMF/IMG or Bilderberg group . Look up these people and then look at who was listed in the Panama Papers , they are all in one bag of control freaks .

          25. Mathew Molk says

            UN? – We don’t deem to be listening to them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

          26. Mathew Molk says

            In the Cleveland area they are paying that to work at the gas stations.

            The place that shanghaied me into resetting his shop and installing a new really big CNC Mill put on 4 new operators the week before last. – The guys pulling chips and running the saw are making 20 bucks.

            Your area may be devoid of skilled people so nobody will build anything there. – And when I say “skilled” I do not mean a clown that got a masters in Ebonies and thinks a full time job is 2 out of 5, 2-with a hangover. They have to be actual skilled workers.

            As far as whorehouses here. Amazon is bringing 2-huge ones out of the ground in this area . All fully automated and robotic. – No jobs for 10 dollar parts pickers. After they are done they will need programmers, electronic techs and millwrights though,,,,and I don’t know any that will work for less then about 25 plus benefits (if they can find them)

          27. Retired says

            It is not a lack of skilled workers as much as air quality and buying rights . No gas station pays someone $20.00 to run the cash register .Now if you are talking repair places that is different , around here they all pulled tanks and pumps paid for by the Tax Payer . Amazon advertises $10.00 to $13.00 with mandatory overtime if needed , they do advertise health care and education funding . They are nothing but a China ware house distributer putting stores out of business . Where was the CNC built ???

          28. Mathew Molk says

            I don’t know anybody outside of McDonalds type jobs in the Greater Cleveland Area that pays less then $20 plus benefits and that is of an inexperienced person. – Now it’s not for collage boys, mind you. You have to have some type of saleable skill, Technicians, CAD Draftsman, CNC Operators, and naturaly shilled trades (Millwrights, Plumbers, Operators, Electricians)

            In your area you might still be in a depression but here there are MASSIVE shortages of skilled workers. For instance. There is a non union electrical contractor that has been offering a $500 sign in bonus since last August.

            Get out and look around in the real world and I think you would get a different point of view.

          29. Retired says

            Yes I look at the real world while you are stuck in Cleveland , the only reason things have changed there is all the old outdated manufacturing was destroyed . Today things are different , you have to submit information before building as to Air Quality and ground water pollution as well as run off , but yet we go to countries where there are no controls like here and then pollute some more bringing it to the US and pollute some more delivering it .

          30. Katia says

            That is a fact..My son in an electricians union and those assholes rip you blind whether they have work for you or not..They don’t do squat to help you with what they take monthly and when you don’t have work they threaten you if you don’t keep up their fat dues..Now that’s no different than being a mob..

          31. gotabgood says

            But I bet your son likes the wages and benefits….. that most of the RTW states have to be on government welfare to make ends meet..

          32. Mathew Molk says

            What local? —- That is not IBEW rules. And no theats if you don’t pay,,,,,You just get suspended and then booted out.

            BTW,,, is he working for the $10 an hour with no bennies that “retired” is BSing us about. – Or is he making over 30 bucks, and how ’bout 3 Journeyman to one apprentice….to say nothing of joint council training programs. The hall sure didn’t help him on either of those did they? If he thinks he would be so much ahead without being in the hall why doesn’t he quit?

            God bless ya. but don’t piss down my neck and tell me it’s raining. And Again. Before I retires I WAS the company paying the money to the union members.

          33. Retired says

            The leadership got to big for their Britches and draw a big salary plus better retirement than the workers .

          34. Andrew Molina says

            Have an associate whom is a welder – he was union and saw that if you did a good job, the union would not make work available for you b/c then the contract would end and union members would be out of work quicker. He left the union and is a contractor. Many entities have attempted to replace him with union employees and have had to hire him back after the union screws up the welds.

          35. Mathew Molk says

            I don’t know what union you belonged to but the skilled trades unions have to pay their own dues out of their pockets (and they go up on charges if the don’t pay) The union dues are voted on at the meeting too. – They do NOT automatically go up,,,not ever.

            And FYI< Before I retired 3 years ago I owned the company and employed union members. – Never had a single problem in 30 years.

          36. Retired says

            Is the IAM big enough for you and being a steward ????The orders to raise dues comes from national and it is railroaded through at the lower level

          37. mac12sam12 says

            I’ve seen unions bankrupt companies. It was the democrats and unions that drove the car industry out of Detroit. Unions are way past their shelf life.

          38. Mathew Molk says

            NO…..It was management letting them get away with it. Don’t blame the union for trying to get all they can. It’s up to the company to say “ENOUGH!”

            And I suppose the total junk they made and the attitude of the bean counters to make a 3 dollar profit Friday that would cost them 4 million in sales on monday had nothing to do with it.

            Don’t bite on the NWO Marxist fake news and re-written history. See what is actually going on and make your own evaluation….

          39. mac12sam12 says

            When they do say enough that’s when the workers go on strike.

          40. mrpoohead says

            Whilst in Germany they help companies efficiency which they use as a bargaining tool in pay negotiations, in Australia they’ve gotten the best minimum wage in the world.
            Foreign imports killed the car industry, silly wages and poor production systems – a collective.

          41. mac12sam12 says

            US unions are too strong, while going to college I worked full time in a Teamster grocery warehouse and our competitor went out of business because the workers went on strike. Also see Detroit.

          42. mrpoohead says

            Well the Teamsters were hardly your average union with ties to organised crime.
            Never joined one myself but I’ve seen good and bad in them. Unfortunately America seems to bring out the worst in folk – probably why it’s a shit-hole!

          43. mac12sam12 says
          44. Bill O'Neil says

            You tRump cult members would say the “Bill of Rights” is past it’s shelf life.

          45. mac12sam12 says

            Like the liberals say about the Constitution?

          46. cv says

            I’ve never been in a union and never needed one. The people in the union where I work tended to be argumentative and annoying. My wife works for the VA, and reports that union members are the laziest workers and would rather complain than do their jobs. Sure, there should be recourse to some kind of worker advocates in dangerous jobs like mining, but pitting workers against management has mainly had the effect of hobbling production and sending jobs overseas. Unions are a big reason we don’t have a steel industry anymore, for example, among many other manufacturing jobs.

          47. Mathew Molk says

            Being a vet myself, I think the entire VA should be closed down and bids from private insurance companies let and have the civilian hospitals take care of us,,,,,but other then going there to get a VA card so I can get the GI discount at Home Depot and Lowe’s I have never been there for anything. – I pay my own insurance.

          48. Bill O'Neil says

            No, the reason for our loss of jobs is because the big corporations don’t want to pay a living wage when they can ship the jobs over seas and have the work done for slave wages.

          49. Katia says

            Unions are mostly crooked as the Clintons and Obama administrations..When Unions can control contracts you know there is a big problem..And they had the nerve to talk about the Mob..laughable..

          50. Mathew Molk says

            WOAH there…….

            I see, especially the public unions and the totally out of control teachers unions are out of control,,,,but ?just who would you have negotiate contracts? The nanny state?

            The way the unions got out of hand was because management let them. They were too lazy to just say no and just passed on the costs to their customers,,,and that, My Dear is how the industrial seen went down the tubes. Dumb Dora management.

            The teacher’s unions are even worse. They get milquetoast fools elected and then just run roughshod over them and can do no wrong in the eyes of the yuppie parents.

            Blame management when the union gets a one sided contract.

          51. Retired says

            The worst of the bunch is the Educators Union and then the Gov. employees Union . I have nothing against the in industry which helps with job safety .

          52. gotabgood says

            Hahahahaha… so very true

          53. ABO says

            You sound like a typical poorly informed clown who can’t be bothered researching the facts but simply claim that you are right and those who have done their homework and found the truth are wrong. Your ignorance is amazing.

          54. Bill O'Neil says

            You are projecting!

          55. ABO says

            How so. Explain.

          56. gotabgood says

            You do not know what you are talking about…. the people in unions, make pretty good money……. or did!!!! They are not like the rich and have off shore bank accounts.. or the poor who live from one meal to the next… the middle class, the union members…. buy your stuff…. they use your services…… unregulated capitalism is a twin brother to communism. Their whole goal is PROFIT.
            Reagan allowed our companies to search foreign lands for cheap wages… because of greed!!! When Kennedy was president, the tax rate was 91%… Kennedy lowered it to 71%, then Johnson to 70%… that right there was 21% wage increase, in just 2 or 3 years. When was the last time you got a 21% raise? And by the way… that tax cut just wasn’t plucked from the tax-cut-tree, middle class had to pick that up!! Along with Reagan’s cut too.
            THEN REAGAN!! He went into office at 70% he left office it was 28% a 42% tax cut !! Was that enough for them? No they want more and more and more and do not give a big rats hind-end who they step on to get THEIR money!!!!
            Money redistribution??? YES! YOU BET!! The rich took it from the middle class… AND TRUMP WANTS MORE AND GIVE HIS BUDDIES MORE

          57. Retired says

            The biggest share of Union workers are Gov. employees from your local to WDC .We were less than 30% and are down to about 15 % now according to the last report that I read . After NAM things slowed down and wasn’t it Nixon who went to China ???? Corporations wanted to get back at the labor unions and started going off shore and some actually started after WW2 with car parts coming form Mexico .The rich will never give up their wealth no mater what political party is in power .Clinton and Obama both had 8 years to make taxes more just and did nothing about it , both are now filthy rich . One thing that Trump wants to do is shrink Government and both parties are fighting it as they like the campaign money from the lobbyist .

          58. gotabgood says

            “We were less than 30% and are down to about 15 %”.
            I don’t have much faith in your math, but using your figures, you can thank dumbasses like Walker for firing teachers and closing schools, same with Brown in Kansas.
            Education is an investment in our future… what to we want gownup kids that don’t know what country is above our Northern border?
            Both Clinton and Obama raised the taxes…. but in order to get anything done with the divided politics we have now…. you have to have a super majority in house and senate.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d277833a80425ee4e0d8b745d378723f25eb3b55a136e44ec4ae9d13efc6ce89.png

          59. Retired says

            That is what the best [ 30% ] union member ship was in the hay day of the and the last I saw it is down to below 15% of the total work force of the USA . So have you got better figures ???

          60. gotabgood says

            No I do not have any figures, I would have to search them out. Judging from the number of Republican governors making their state a RTW state. Even Michigan… hard to believe. I remember when I got out of the service and was looking for a job, in Michigan, The non-union shops would advertise, saying “help wanted, we pay union wages” At that time the union was the standard…. now, I believe it is minimum wage.
            Is that progress?

          61. Retired says

            Think about how you are lucky that is not today when you got out .Many guys in the guard that got activated during Clinton and Bush years came home and their jobs were gone and the places were shut down . Enjoy retirement and spend your money .

          62. gotabgood says

            Clinton created jobs… lil’ bush drove them over a clif.
            And I do both, enjoy my retirement and spending my money..hahaha
            That’s what money was made for, to buy things.

          63. Retired says

            It sure was not in our area as manufacturing closed plants during Clintons term . And I am talking with a 300 mile radius . In its place today are ware housing. There are always some places that do good while others hurt . Now the big problem is stores are closing because people are buying from the China import house like Amazon and others .

          64. Mathew Molk says

            Industrial and large commercial plants are being built like they are going out of style around the Great lakes. – The hall says they are short 1200 electricians between Buffalo and Detroit. – I am getting calls with offers I can refuse ($$$$) to come out of retirement to install big CNC machines that they are playing hell finding operators to run.

          65. mac12sam12 says

            Clinton had the tech boom and he didn’t create that and it was Obama who bankrupted companies or drove them overseas.

          66. mrpoohead says

            So nothing to do with cheap labour in Asia and companies running there to cut costs?
            What was the President to do, Congress could have imposed tariffs but business didn’t want that, they wanted free trade. Funny as!

          67. Andrew Molina says

            Clinton sold the long beach shipyard to the Chinese under the guise that mothballed military installations could be commercialized which removed the debt load of the closed facility from the budget. John Wong who visited the WH 75 times during bubba’s term – the cost was $50K/visit. The long beach shipyard is now the largest intermodal port in the USA providing Chinese manufactured goods access was not good enough b/c the Chinese were not banking profits fast enough b/c the products could not get from long beach to their final destinations fast enough due to gridlock in the LA basin. Bubba knew this which insured that there would be additional $5oK visits so they could lobby for a solution to speed the pace of throughput and the Clintons could bank another $50K – along came a rail line that with the purpose of stevedoring the shipping containers from long beach to an area near palm springs which is outside the basin – built with transportation funding provided by the Fed Govt. – the rail line is restricted to throughput for Chinese goods only from long beach shipyard.. Do the math – 75 visits x $50K/visit = $3.75M – but they still stole the dishes from the WH and plead poverty. poli in latin means “many” and tics are bloodsucking insects – politics

          68. mrpoohead says

            So did you finish the creative writing class? What a pile of dribble – care to find a reputable reference to back that up? Probably not as it was nothing but lies and “poli” in Latin is pole or extreme point.
            Idiot!

          69. Katia says

            Sad to treat our military the way they do..When I was working at Hughes Aircraft our guard enlisties got paid while they were on manuevers two weeks twice a year or once a year, I can’t remember but their jobs were always there when they came back and same with Nam conflict as they call it so they didn’t have to call it a war..Bottom line the thousands being killed made it a war in my opinon..Unions are blood suckers I beleive..We had an open shop..Everyone got the same raises and benefits of the Union so didn’t seem bad BUt, WHEN i SAW MONEY BEING USED FOR POLITICS AND BBQ’S ii DIND’T LIKE IT.. My husband being a Federal worker at the POst office first and then in Customs 35 years, wasn’t allowed to even put a bumper sticker on his car, talk anything about Politics or it was grounds for dismissile.How novel when you hear these Federal Emplyees especially the ones in Gov’t out spewing such trash constantly..Goes to show the differences between the classes and who gets by with what..Money talks BS walks.!!! sickening bunch of pukes in Congress that need to be vacuumed out of the bottom of the swamp…

          70. Retired says

            Which swamp is in dire need to be drained First ,DOJ – Lobbyist or Congress ???? I know they are all bad but which one should be first . We only get to vote every 2 years for WDC .

          71. tbone188 says

            Lest we forget the nfl, those jerks are led by the nflpa who is led by a black man (name doesn’t come to mind at the moment) who is the biggest racist going. I understand the union has contributed to black lives matter and other racist orgs. I want to know where do they get off letting them donate to ANY political organization. It makes my blood boil that they would use a sports venue that produces billions and gives it to anti- American groups. The worst is all I read about is how POTUS is crooked and evil etc. Well at least I haven’t watched football since game one and will not go back, what else can one do? BTW I love reading your “stuff”.

          72. Mathew Molk says

            When I got back from Vietnam my job as a Draftsman and Survey party member was moved from Cleveland to Columbus,,,,,So I started a construction Company,,,,and unlike when Clunton or the royal exalted boma was in DC it was not all that hard to get off the ground. Dug a lot of basements and sewer lines

          73. Retired says

            Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back .

          74. Katia says

            They are filthy rich because of being criminals..When everyone sees what’s going on with everything Trump wants to do to cut Gov’t and they fight it you know there is a big crew of thieves in Gov’t..But we’ve all saw that with the Clintons, and Obama’s..Blood suckers and criminals..

          75. Andrew Molina says

            Kissinger was the hand up Nixon’s back to associate w/china – the NWO was on the move then also

          76. Retired says

            OH it was going on way before that just under different names .

          77. Katia says

            FACTS! My husband retired in 1995 Me in 1992..HIs Federal retirement doesn’t even come close after 35 years as does the rich in Congress.Every year no matter what the pitence cola, it has been it’s taken in full away by the increases in medical..Medicare since being on it also goes up..How novel this year we get a 2% COLA but, insurances went up 6% So yet again we are making less another year than when we started retirement..I would love to see where it is we are suppose to be getting more money when medical, food, interest, auto insurances and Rx’s go up more than the so called cola raise?.People are tying bows in the wind or living in lala land like the Pelosi’s and Schumers..When you’ve milked the hell out of the citizens.to line your own pockets something is wrong with this picture..Give themselves raises in the middle of the night like the fox guarding the hen house…How novel..It should be we the people that decide with a vote whether they should ever get a raise and what it should be..That would be the democratic way of doing things..Like they control our income and the phony BS with the IRS..Has anyone really ever wondered how the Gov’t got so much control over our lives? People to lazy to fight back, demand important things instead of these BS protest and racism..If as many put the effort into fighting for what we deserve instead of the miiel BS maybe things would change..

          78. gotabgood says

            Maybe you should start listening to a different song…. you have been listening to the BS spread around by the rightwing long enough…. it is no secret and has been around a long time….. the truth what my father told me….. Republicans are for big businesses and the Democrats are for the working class.
            it is easy to tell… Trump is going to destroy our national monuments for oil and mining companies… he is cutting taxes for the rich along with inheritance tax and that only affects the rich.
            Look back through the past it was FDR that gave us SS and Unemployment insurance. The right have been fighting both for all those years.. WHY?
            LBJ gave us Medicare, the right have been fighting that all along… WHY?
            Now ObamaCare he had to fight to get it to pass, but along with that, the right had 150 amendments and then didn’t vote on it. We ended up with a watered down version of what we wanted.
            Anything to help the seniors or people that need healthcare, the right fight against it. We talk of the good ole days… those good ole days included a strong middle class that had to be dealt with election time… Republicans were like Eisenhower… a good man…. Now they attack the unions and our wages go down while everything else goes up. They attack regulations, now our companies go over seas to cheap labor. Now this tRump pulls us out of Paris Agreement, we may not be in a visual disaster YET, but it is coming. Florida’s streets are flooding at high tide.
            To the right it is all about feeding the big business monster and damn the results..

          79. bobails says

            PACK YOUR BAGS…your Commie is showing

          80. Ray Taylor says

            I was born & raised in Florida and am now retired in FL. Streets do NOT flood at high tide. TV news showed flooding (6″) at high tide during a storm in Miami last year. Storms are not normal weather, but do occur.

          81. gotabgood says

            And I should believe you over several news outlets….. why?
            Because you live somewhere in Florida, most likely mid to north state where most of the retirees live, or West coast.
            I am curious, did you vote for Rick Scott after he embezzled billions of dollars from your medicare?

          82. Ray Taylor says

            Wrong on all counts. Flagged. Blocked, you waste of time and air.

          83. Mathew Molk says

            That is a classic union member attitude. –

            Bargaining committee – “What do you want us to get in the contract for your pension?”

            Greedy union member – “I want XXX Dollars a month plus COLA and paid hospitalazation”

            Bargaining committee – “OK, It was a fight but we got it for you”

            Greedy union member -“But we just found out another union got XXX times 105%. We want 10% more then that!”

            I was on the board of directors and the Bargain Committee of a Police union and trust me..,. No matter how you jumped through your ass for the membership and got them even more then they asked for, the more a lot of them want. (And are not willing to lift a finger to get it)

            I agree that congress is way out of hand, but if you want the same benefits then run for office. If not then STFU. – Policeman in my day had a saying. – You knew the job was tough when you took it. If the benefits are not enough for you don’t sign up to take the test in the first place.

          84. Michael Dennewitz says

            Well Katie… I’m a Vietnam vet myself. In 2001 I fell dead 4 times and they brought me back. Went immediately on total life support while they did a quadruple bypass on me and installed a stainless steel mytral valve. Started out on disability, $1379. a month. When I started drawing my social security, I thought I was rich. But the government wouldn’t have that. Several years ago, my disability was reduced to $1.56 mthly. Yes, I printed it right – $1.56.. Two years ago, our refugee program needed money so bad that they started taking 1/3 of my social security. As it stands right now, I DON’T MAKE ENUF TO AFFORD THE RENT ON A RUN DOWN SHACK! AIN’T LIFE GREAT?😣

          85. Topher Smith says

            Why lie?

          86. America1st says

            BS. Wealth redistribution? Under Zero Accomplishment Obama the gap between the top 1% and middle class INCREASED faster than ever before. Zero declared war on business with job killing regulations and increased taxes. The most onerous tax was the not so Affordable Care Act which increased taxes by $1.2 Trillion. The middle class declined into poverty while the richest got richer. Obama invaded DOJ with total corruption that enabled NSA political spying on political opponents, IRS political punishment of conservatives, unconstitutional EO’s, $5 Trillion QE creation of cash to prop up failed economic policies, failed fickle foreign policies of appeasement and lead from behind and support of terrorismv, diversion of Big Bank financial fines to liberal political organizations resulting with zero corruption criminal investigations.

            The Zero Obama legacy is one filled with failure and corruption resulting with a politically weaponized corrupt federal government and the most racially divided country in over 50 years.

            Trump repeals onerous regulations and proposes middle class tax cut and the economy soars with the highest stock market in history (check your 401K/Roth values since the election = +25-35%), lowest unemployment levels in 12 years, lowest black and Hispanic employment levels in 20 years, highest consumer confidence levels is 14 years, highest Manufacturers Confidence level in 44 Years.

          87. Mathew Molk says

            Absolutely correct. – And not from the MSM either. From looking at the want ads and driving down the street and looking at the real world.

          88. ABO says

            Excellent response, America1st and absolutely accurate and truthful. Well done!

          89. GUA8 says

            Oh how right you are Retired. I work for the Defense Logistics Agency in Norfolk VA. Nice people but institutionalized looters from the GS-14 to the WG-3. Unions have had there use in society but have become the piggy bank for the PPoA (Peoples Party of America, formerly the Democratic Party…My term). Sloth, ignorance and a lack of profit motive keep the lazy looter thriving in the governmental domain. All attempts to make processes and programs more efficient are shot down. You wouldn’t believe the out right fraud. Millions of dollars of mail go out of one warehouse door, get a stamp in Richmond and come back to the same building 20 feet away. Full truckloads of freight comes in to a warehouse gets processes is reloaded and moves on to Portsmouth (final destination) instead of sending it there in the first place. Work is purposefully not done during the week so overtime on the weekend can be scheduled. There are numerous people I work with who CAN NOT do their job according to the printed Job description. You can not discriminate in any way shape or form. They built a 1 million dollar handicap ramp on the back of a warehouse that NO ONE uses. They hire 60 year old truck drivers who can not climb a ladder and drive a straddle carrier. They hire supervisors who have NEVER supervised and could not lead a penguin in to water. It is a Finfg disgrace! Solution: 30 year mandatory retirement. Mandatory 75% physical screen outs and 80% job questions during interviews. Currently they ask ” what makes you mad” how do you deal with it? Give us an example of when you had to use your leadership skills. Hows about, can you do every item without reservation on this job description. And if they can’…..next applicant! Reduce the entire civil servant work force by attrition 40%.

          90. Mathew Molk says

            That’s the NWO Marxist party that we used to call the Democrat Party.

            Let;s bring back the HUAC,,,,or isn’t that what Trey Gowdy’s dog and pony show was supposed to be doing for the last 3+ years with no tangible results?

          91. Retired says

            You nailed that one correct , Government – VA and post office need a big house cleaning from the top down . The top has created job security . Government Employees need to be put on the same retirement age as people going on SS , no more 30 and out with full benefits

          92. Andrew Molina says

            While I was down range running between stations with an ambient temperature of in excess of 125F, the quota making employee was in the air conditioned truck sleeping

          93. Mathew Molk says

            And all we need to do to flatten the teacher’s unions is to elect people to the local boards of education. – Next Contract “Tenure?- What tenure> ” – Let them strike. Would the kids that cannot even read their diplomas and thinks it was called “World War Eleven” be any worse off?

          94. Retired says

            Chicago tried that a few years back and got no place thanks to Judges . Problem in many places is that teachers or retired teachers are on the Board and They are Union members .Teachers are so Smart and Educated why do they need a Union other than easy street . Some parts they are paying almost a $100.00 based on the high income teachers .Boy are they ever smart .

          95. gotabgood says

            Money in circulation means a thriving economy… Middle class did that. The rich they buy foreign land/homes and off shore bank accounts.. The poor, just try to make it from one dinner to the next.

            I was a member of a union. I only, had to work, that was enough to buy a home, a fairly new (used) car and a great pickup. I had full healthcare, dental, and eye care. I worked 40 hours a week and over time on anything over 40. Had a retirement, which I am not enjoying, and paid vacation. See Reagan below.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4a96d588264880dc84e316ecc9295fcfb44a561127e19f6d84b82754c38d4d8.jpg
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f8ee8b25660cc1bd5648b934e78933aff313df06d3fff0d6c02c44a299007169.jpg

          96. Retired says

            Lots of workers fell for Reagan because of his union activity .

          97. gotabgood says

            “FELL” is the right word

          98. Katia says

            You aren’t paying attention or listening to faux news..The Dems are obstructionists and anyone that has been following his inauguration would know

            the Dems said from the get go they will stop him no matter what he wants..So get a clue..We don’t need people in Gov’t that think it’s all about them and what they want..IT’S ABOUT WE THE PEOPLE!!!!! Once people figure it out things would go alot better instead of all this inbreed fighting like a bunch of little ignorant kids.. Actually kids have more brains than what I’ve seen going on in the Dem party..Too bad that people don’t vote party lines and would study about the person and vote for who cares about the country..

          99. Bill O'Neil says

            You are correct about one thing, I don’t watch Faux News. Unlike you I don’t want to be fed a steady string of lies and misinformation.

          100. G.Mann says

            Do some research on unions Bill.. they were all started by the
            “American Communist Party”…. after 1917 Russian revolution.. America thrived without unions before them… it’s choked with them ever since. But, your view won’t see that.

          101. Bill O'Neil says

            Is that what the Russian Troll Farm is running with today?

          102. Andrew Molina says

            He is saving the taxpayers dollars from having to pay the salaries and benefits of duplicitous teats on a bull

          103. gotabgood says

            What appointees has the Republicans said no to?
            I do agree with you on one point… I think the house, the senate AND the SCOTUS should all be term limited, and I don’t mean life term.
            That way we don’t get this…
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42cb68c0364252f9cf53e8fda557fd4c60c22aebf7d39fdc67cf05891941efcd.jpg

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f303dfe8eb31c51043f83f5e90b56a14983c32db6c890d006372c303bceb5f99.png

          104. Retired says

            McConnell is siting on a stack of manes to replace the prior administration people , his claim is there are not enough votes . But yet he plays games with things that will go no place . The four leaders of the parties need to go to pasture .

          105. Paul Otts says

            I agree with your premise about term limits……but your use of a 50% court ruling proves nothing. You could just as easily say that they ruled against “corporations” 50% of the time.

          106. gotabgood says

            The object was not the 50%….. it was at the bottom of photo where they sided with corporations 88% of the time….. That is a big jump…and that also you could say….. was a vote against the America worker..

          107. Franie says

            WOW!! You forgot labeling the dems and their unlawful take on the Constitution, not to mention Frank-Dodd and the damage they’ve done to our institutions, and the corporation pork barreling the dems are so guilty of. What a hack you are, fool.

          108. Katia says

            Getting rid of Ryan, Mcdipshit, Schumer and Pelosi would be the best start and go down the list from there..These has been old hags hanging on to the money pit has run it’s gambit.Time to get rid of them if anyone has a brain to see they are nothing but liars, desperate to hang onto a vote so will do anything illegal and say anything to try and stay on til the coroner wheels them out..Time for time limits on all of them period.We need fresh young blood in Gov’t that has a brain and is up to date on the world and what’s going on..NOT DEMS and REP. that are already brainwashed on anything..It should be about the Country and the PEOPLE not themselves and how they can screw over everyone to get what they want. If 3/4 of them were in the real working world they would be fired along time ago..Time to clean it out..WE own them, we pay their checks time for the people to take control of these indigent idiots..

          109. Mathew Molk says

            With ya 100%,,,and we get an excellent chance to dump a bunch of NWO Marxists (aka democrats) and especially RINOs in qq months.

            If we cleaned out the RINOs the NWO Marxists would become totally powerless to stopt the Trump Train.

          110. Ron Dapo says

            Please show the facts Billy.

          111. Franie says

            Look in the damn mirror, fool.

        2. Katia says

          Ya it is easily verified and is daily but ignorant illiterates apparently can’t read or comprehend..figures with their mentality..no brain cells..l

          1. ABO says

            That was an excellent and very accurate description of Billy Boy, Katia, well done.

          2. Mathew Molk says

            With ya on that one…..Unfortunately we have a lot of people on our side too that will bite on just about anything if it suites their agenda.

          3. Bill O'Neil says

            You are projecting!

          4. ABO says

            In what manner is Katia projecting, Billy Boy??? Explain.

        3. cv says

          I frankly don’t care. I care more about people picking my pocket and using my credit card. Those 500-odd people in DC that you think are so great, but have an approval rating of 10%!

          1. ABO says

            Well said, cv.

        4. Franie says

          I strongly suggest YOU look it up!! President Trump has done phenominal good for this country and foreign interests in the short time he’s been in office, fool!

          1. Mathew Molk says

            All I have to do is look at the unfilled jobs in the want ads and take a ride around town and I can see the VAST improvement over the royal exalted boma.

            God bless our President.

            MAGA or get run over by the Trump Train.

          2. Bill O'Neil says

            Name one thing, moron.

          3. ABO says

            You’re projecting, Billy Boy.

      2. Mathew Molk says

        If you guys would block this asshole and not respond to him/her/it we could return to intelligent conversation and discussion of ways to stop the NWO Marxists and RINOs from gumming up the works on our President instead of jumping to the mindless drivel of clowns like this commie snowflake….

        DO NOT FEED TROLLS —– BLOCK THEM!

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          Typical CS response when you don’t have anything worthwhile to say!!!

    2. gotabgood says

      9 Lies a DAY?????
      I am with the fake news category…….. It has to be waaaaay more than that..

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        That was from a WAPO article on 11/14/17 which only covered a 35 day time-period .

        1. gotabgood says

          Maybe that was when he was on vacation… smile
          In realty… it is a shame we have a president that lies so much about everything.

          1. Wayne Olmsted says

            Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! I have seen NO truth in ANY of your posts to date.

          2. ABO says

            Join the club, Wayne. Fact is there are many, many others, myself included who will agree with your statement. gotabamoron is terribly averse to that thing called the truth.

          3. Bill O'Neil says

            Yes he is a total embarrassment. How low can this country sink, putting a lying self-proclaimed sexual assaulter in the WH?

          4. gotabgood says

            He hasn’t been in office a full year yet….. so hold on….. I think we are going lower, unless Mueller can stop this maniac.

        2. ABO says

          And just how many false stories about Trump has WAPO been forced to retract, Billy Boy??? Want to give that one a shot?

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            You seem to think you have all the answers, so you tell me, with references.

          2. ABO says

            The retractions are all part of public record. Look it up yourself you lazy moron.

    3. Katia says

      what headline..Name some sources or is it the fake news media that all the illiterates listen to that is so sick.?Name names…

      1. gotabgood says

        With you it is fake news if he gave you headlines, web address from all the networks….. you would say…. “LOL That’s all leftwing media”…… Like the rightwing media would come out and say yep our president is a liar…… mmm you do have ONE honest reporter in the rightwing media… give him a listen…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPNiT6L3zTI&t=24s

    4. Austinniceguy says

      Laughable lunacy from you. Go crawl back into your bottle Hillary, we all know it’s you, you loser. ROTFFLMFAO!

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        You are just another example of inbreed stupidity.

        1. Austinniceguy says

          And you’re another illiterate moron, Hillary. Did you ever find that stupid shoe you lost when you almost croaked at the 9/11 memorial last year? I almost passed out I laughed so hard as they dragged you like a side of beef with earrings and lipstick, that was your best look EVER!!!!

        2. ABO says

          This from a tragically inbred moron. Careful, Billy Boy, you’re projecting again.

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            It’s hard for you deplorables to come up with your own material isn’t it?

          2. ABO says

            Well now, the point is that you continue to accuse others of projecting even though you obviously have absolutely no clue what is meant by the term. No surprise there.

    5. donl says

      We all know if that were true the Demo-Commies would be all over it.

      1. ABO says

        Billy Boy O’Neil makes up the “facts” as he goes along donl. He’s not remotely interested in the truth.

      2. Bill O'Neil says

        Which alternate universe are you trying to hide in?

    6. cv says

      All politicians lie, distort, or otherwise try to do a number on us, especially people like you who are partisan and easily influenced by what they want to believe. These kinds of debates are distractions created to make sure you don’t spend any time thinking about 142 trillion in federal liabilities, the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time, so your Congressional reps thank you for your gullibility.

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        You sure it’s not 942 trillion?

    7. ABO says

      I notice that as usual you provide absolutely no indication of where exactly you found that headline. Did you just make it up as you commonly do or can you provide any verifiable source whatsoever? Come on Billy Boy, give it a shot. Where did that headline come from???

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        Since you don’t know how to read what was already in a previous comment, here it is AGAIN, WAPO 11/14/17.

        1. ABO says

          That response was directed at your buddy gotabamoron long after my original response, so your “previous comment” BS is just that and your original assertion is still entirely bogus, so just keep spouting your brainless drivel, O’Neil, it sure suits you.

    8. mac12sam12 says

      You still eating your boogers Bill?

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        You still showing the world your degree in stupid?

    9. Francisco Machado says

      At that rate, he’ll never catch up with Hillary. She has to much of a lead.

    10. Franie says

      WOW!! Take those blinders off, huh?

    11. Retired Marine says

      You work for CNN or MSNBC? Your eyes have to be brown because you are so full of s–t.

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        What’s the matter? Can’t get a job other than licking the boots of the billionaires?

  3. gotabgood says

    Before you poo poo this away…. it may work for you…

    THE LIE THAT STEPHEN HAWKING TAKES “SMART PILLS” IS NOT EVEN THE BIGGEST LIE IN THESE “SMART PILL” ADS
    I was thinking you people on the right may benefit from these fake “smart pills”. You always take about “fake news” or use “alternative facts”, maybe these pills could at least get you back onto the center of the road.

  4. gotabgood says
    1. Franie says

      OMG!! You’ve been hoodwinked as you’ve got the wrong players in this faux farce.

  5. Katia says

    Lies! that ‘s a joke when the Queen of liars is Hillary Clinton along with Obama and his criminal crew of ingrates he had in the Administration..Just take someone with comprehension knowledge to know the difference..Like Allred and her phony bitches with their lying claims about sexual abuse. Disgraceful and they should all be prosecuted for what the crooked Mueller is investigating on a phony basis when they already know it was the Dem Comm. and Hiillary paying for the lies..people need to grab a brain and get educated instead of following the leader with their faux news media that are a disgrace to this country..How would any of you like to be accused, shows plenty have been in prison for years over lIars ,cheats and others getting special treatment..Anyone that doesn’t think Trump can and has done more t.for this country in such a short period of time is following losers that can’t listen and don’t want to admit he’s great at what he does and/or can’t understand English language or afraid their free ride is coming to an end which most are on welfare and don’t want to have to work they would rather leach off the backs of working people and legal ones at that.Ya, I would say Dems are about the most stupid ignorant, illiterate bunch I’ve ever heard speak.Theatrical like Hollyweirdos that back them becasue they are all the same, love hype and hysterial with their ignorant use of words..Has beens that don’t have a real life at home so make a career out of Politics where they can milk a fat pay check off our backs doing nothing but spreading lies and innuendos and still can’t admit when they are wrong..Sickening bunch of inbreeds…

    1. gotabgood says

      The FBI says you are a liar when you call Hillary a liar. He, Comey said no evidence of her lying….

      1. mac12sam12 says

        She lied in front of Congress on TV.

        1. Mathew Molk says

          So did bubba,,,,He got a pass too.

          1. G.Mann says

            Bubba said “I didn’t have sex with THAT woman, not even once.” For years, I thought “Monica”…. I now understand Bill was talking about Hillary…. Clever b’strd…. lawyers…

          2. elmcqueen3 says

            Good read…thanks for the heads up…lol

          3. Sol_of_Texas says

            ;^)

        2. ABO says

          Gotabamoron member that because it doesn’t promote his agenda. It is after all the truth which liberal/regressives avoid like the plague.

        3. whoselineisitanyway says

          gotabgood is a
          PAID SOROS TROLL

          1. mac12sam12 says

            So is poophead. His vote total was 3,000 a few days ago and now the total is over 18,000.

      2. Max Thor says

        The FBI IS CORRUPT…

        1. theking says

          just like those at the DOJ. It is time for the President to ask Congress to interview the top echelons of both the FBI and DOJ and use extensive questioning and investigations to determine which top echelon officials need to have their law license removed and disbarred and fired from government employment. How is it that the past FBI Director has not taken any action against George Soros and his anti-USA actions?

          1. Retired Marine says

            You’re absolutely on target.
            Semper Fi

          2. Sol_of_Texas says

            I don’t think law licenses can be revoked except on a state by state basis. That part is a 10th Amendment issue. They can be fired, however.

          3. Lizzie2 says

            This is how destablization Here is to thinking that there more of us than there are of you.

        2. gotabgood says

          Not as bad as the White House..

          1. Sol_of_Texas says

            Banished … no time to argue nonsense.

        3. pineapple says

          Not a happy retired FBI agent…………………….

          > A retired FBI Agent expresses the frustrations of many active and
          retired Federal Law Enforcement personnel in the USA, in a letter to FBI
          Director Comey. Comey was held in the highest regard throughout Law
          Enforcement circles until he publicly compromised his integrity in this
          high profile investigation.
          September 2, 2016 Mr. James Comey, Director Federal Bureau of Investigation J. Edgar Hoover Building

          935 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

          Sir, I am writing regarding your public
          statement in July, 2016 informing the American people that the FBI
          investigation of Hillary Clinton was being closed without referring it
          to a Federal Grand Jury or the Attorney General of the U. S. for a
          decision whether or not to indict her. Strangely, you eloquently laid
          out enough of the evidence deduced from the investigation to strongly
          indicate there was abundant evidence uncovered during the investigation
          and interview of her to not only indict but to convict her in Federal
          Court.­­­­­­­ ­­­­­­However, you personally re-worded and soft-pedaled
          the actions she took as Secretary of State describing her actions as
          “extremely careless” in using a personal email and un-secured server for
          her communications while Secretary of State. You rewrote the statute,
          which is not your job.

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> As a retired Special Agent of the FBI, I have
          standing to write this letter. My thirty years in law enforcement,
          including 22 years as a Special Agent with the FBI have given me the
          knowledge, expertise and experience to question and confront you for
          your perplexing actions, which (as you well know) were outside the
          normal standard operating procedure of the FBI and Federal judicial
          procedures. Some of the finest people in the world proudly carry the
          credentials of FBI Agent and you have soiled them and not allowed them
          to speak. But I will not be silent.

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> Sorry, but NO SIR, MS Clinton was not merely
          careless or extremely careless. She was not even negligent or grossly
          negligent (as the statute requires). Hillary Clinton was knowingly
          purposeful in her decisions and actions to set up a server under her
          exclusive control and possession in order to control what information
          was available to the American public and Congress regarding her actions
          as Secretary of State. Furthermore, she took those government owned
          communications into her personal possession after leaving her position
          and knowingly and willingly attempted to destroy them so her nefarious
          actions could never be known or used as evidence of her corrupt moral
          character against her.

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> Sir, what possessed you? Did you cave in to
          political pressure to unilaterally come to this decision? I fear that is
          the case, and Rule of Law be damned. I am embarrassed for and ashamed
          of you. You have set a precedent that can never be rectified….and
          certainly not justified. Shame on you, Sir. You ought to resign right
          now in disgrace for what you have done to tarnish the reputation of the
          finest Law Enforcement Agency in the world…. for entirely political
          reasons.

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> Normally, an investigation will be assigned to
          an agent, or team of agents with one being the Case agent, or the lead
          investigator. When the investigation is complete, an investigative
          report will be presented to the U.S. Attorney for the Federal District
          involved. It would be the U.S. Attorney who decides whether to decline
          prosecution for that investigation….NOT the FBI agent. But in the
          Clinton investigation, YOU (unilaterally) decided not to forward the
          investigation to the U.S. Attorney or the Attorney General of the U.S.
          but, instead, personally made the decision not to prosecute her or even
          provide the information to a Federal Grand Jury. You were wrong to
          take this upon yourself. Sir, in order to indict a subject, only a
          preponderance of evidence , or 51% is needed for probable cause to
          exist. You did not think even that level of probability existed?

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> Who do you think you are fooling? What judicial proceeding did you think you were following?

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> Throughout my years with the FBI, I (along with
          my fellow agents) took great pride in conducting each investigation in
          an unbiased manner regardless of the subject’s position or standing in
          the community. All were treated equally under the law. But you, Sir,
          decided to allow this corrupt, evil and nasty human being to go free and
          unchallenged for her treasonous actions (yes, treasonous, in my
          opinion) which threatened the security of this nation. Furthermore,
          you stopped short of investigating the Clinton Foundation as a RICO case
          (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization. This is a RICO case
          if there ever was one. Even an untrained person can tell from the
          communications which were recovered that Hillary Clinton spent more time
          working for the Clinton Foundation while Secretary of State than on
          State Business. It may be argued that Hillary did not do any State
          business UNLESS the Clinton Foundation benefitted. You decided to just
          let this uncomfortable truth alone without addressing it.

          >>>>>>

          >>>>>> I will conclude with this: Following my
          retirement from the FBI, I volunteered for a 12 month tour of duty in
          Afghanistan as a Law Enforcement Professional, embedded with U.S. forces
          as a subject matter expert in counter-terrorism investigations. For
          most of that year I operated “outside the wire” patrolling with the
          troops, interviewing witnesses to IED incidents and gathering evidence
          on the bad guys. The results of my work would then be reported through
          secure channels to the Commanding Officer. All reports and
          communications were required to be transmitted via secure and encrypted
          devices. Occasionally my remote location in the mountains of
          Afghanistan made transmission impossible and I would have to fly back to
          Bagram Air Base in order to securely report to the Commander of the
          battle space. It would have been convenient if I could have just
          called the Commander on my personal cell phone or written him an email
          on my personal laptop. But, had I done so I would have been reporting
          classified information via an unsecured device and it could have been
          compromised. These were, relative to Secretary of State communications,
          low level classifications of Secret. Had I ever sent even one in such a
          manner I would have been prosecuted and sent to Federal Prison for 20
          years or so. That is how serious this violation is considered.

          Now, because
          of you, Hillary Clinton is allowed to continue her RICO activities and
          is running for President of the United States, the most powerful
          position in the world. You have trampled on the Rule of Law and
          destroyed the trust of the American people in the FBI and in unbiased
          enforcement of the law.

          How do you sleep at night? It is time for you to go and work for the Clinton Foundation.

          Sincerely,

          Hugh W. Galyean

          (FBI Agent, Retired)

          1. Retired Marine says

            Outstanding.
            Semper Fi

        4. Retired Marine says

          Some, mostly at the top. I’ve Known many who are very patriotic and do their job, and they do it well. I would venture a guess that they are so pissed at the upper echelon they could hurl.

      3. Retired Marine says

        Of course he didn’t, you must actually LOOK for evidence.

        1. gotabgood says

          Well your congress has been looking since 2012…actually since she became a public figure decades ago…. FBI investigated 2 years…. when do you say enough is enough??
          People get desperate in their made up scandals and feel compelled to find SOMETHING…ANYTHING… and then THEY GET CAUGHT IN THEIR DESPERATION….
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LnkZ7Drk9s

          1. Retired says

            You are not that dumb to see what is going on , it’s like the DOJ investigating itself . So what will be the outcome ???? Clintons are like T Kennedy . Bush Family is not far behind with GW lying about not showing up for drills while others were put on Active duty for not showing up .

          2. gotabgood says

            Are you trying to say the majority in congress since 2010 are on Hillary’s side? Even Trey Gowdy??
            You mean the bush family is not far behind Trump….

            NAZI BUSH

            George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
            The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
            His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.
            The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator’s action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
            The debate over Prescott Bush’s behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the “Bush/Nazi” connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis’ plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler’s rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
            You see grandpa bush didn’t mind the killing of 1000’s Americans, Britt’s and innocent people…. so why would gwb be any different….say around 9/11?
            And now we can add Trump,, he is going to kick millions off healthcare and I am sure some will die, while others suffer… but hey… he likes torture too… Plus his dealings with Russia are more and more coming to the surface.

          3. Rodney Dietz says

            I’m sorry but what does Grandpa Bush have to do with Obama / Hilary / DOJ corruption? If anything you assert is true, we all hope any Bush connected gets whats coming to them!
            Yes, 2010 – 2016 democrat congress was behind Obama/Hilary.

            Trey Gowdy?
            Trump has nothing to do with the Bushes, No connection at all! Bushes hate Trump for Bitch-Slapping there low energy son.

            In True Liberal fashion, you make connections and assertions that don’t exist!
            Trump is trying to repair a destroyed health care system So it works for all “not just 3% of Americans as he was elected to do. His dealing with Russia? What dealings, what facts or truths are you hiding? Please give us facts about Russian dealings, were all interested in what you have come up with.

          4. Retired says

            It has been that way for a long time people getting rich off of wars because they only care about their own pockets . Look into how the Kennedy’s got so fricken rich .Then there is Schumer – Sanders – Feinstein – Pelosi . and Koch family . I worked for a bakery and the owner got filthy rich because he could get all the sugar he wanted during the bad times of depression and WW2 . Just look at Turkey , the US pumped billions into the country and now buying weapons from Russia .

          5. gotabgood says

            I think you might have a bad outlook on the Kennedy’s. Are they saints? I doubt that very much. But the truth doesn’t hurt either.
            This is long, but I copied a paragraph to show you Joseph was NOT for war and if you read further, that was one gripe he had with FDR in starting the war.

            Though never terribly fascinated by the Kennedy family political dynasty, stories about Joseph P. Kennedy (JPK) always interested me from an economic angle. It’s said that Kennedy properly told his son Jack (JFK) that “wars are bad for business”, and then the late Jude Wanniski used to write that JFK’s unyielding support for the gold standard (“the foundation stone of the world’s payments system”) was a function of his father having drummed it into his head from early childhood.
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2013/01/08/the-economics-of-joseph-p-kennedy-the-kennedy-familys-patriarch/#4b17a2fcb452

          6. Retired says

            From what I remember Mama was the boss .

          7. mac12sam12 says

            You’re so dishonest, the US and Germany had trade deals prior to WW2. Hitler was a friend of Joe Kennedy. The only current Nazi I can think of has a D after his name, George Soros. Nice feeble try though!

          8. Retired says

            Soros was a Ghetto Jew just like Schumer’s family .Now the Clintons are connected trough Mark .

          9. Retired Marine says

            He sold his fellow Jews to the Nazi’s, him and his dad. A real charmer.

          10. gotabgood says

            Darn,,, the article said Prescott Bush… not a word about Joseph Kennedy.

          11. mac12sam12 says

            Joe Kennedy was big in the Booze industry. You probably read Selective Liberal News.

          12. gotabgood says

            So is/was Trump… your point?
            Somebody has to make it for all the drinkers..

          13. mac12sam12 says

            The point is pretty simple, my friend. The republicans aren’t Nazis, Grow up!

          14. gotabgood says

            HITLER’S CONNECTION TO THE RIGHTWING RADICALS
            Hitler’s Political Views
            Hitler lived in Vienna for several years, working at odd jobs and absorbing the ideas of Austrian right-wing extremists. In 1913, he left Vienna and moved to Munich in southern Germany. He took with him the basic political ideas to which he would remain committed for the balance of his life. Central to Hitler’s thought were his notions of race. He believed in the racial superiority of the Germanic peoples (the Aryan race) and in the inferiority of other races, especially Jews but also Slavs and blacks. Hitler also advocated the Pan-German ideology that was popular among many Austrian extremists. Pan-Germanism held the view that all Germans should be united in a single state. In addition, Hitler was hostile to the ideology of Marxism, which emphasized the unity of the international working class rather than racial solidarity.
            The following extracts illustrate some of the political ideas of Adolf Hitler (1889-1945):
            http://www2.dsu.nodak.edu/users/dmeier/Holocaust/hitler.html
            >
            And you really should pay attention to this one..
            >
            Germans know fascism when they see it.
            While Americans can joke about “Soup Nazis” and Hitler mustaches, Germans know firsthand what it means when a failed businessman moves from a fringe candidate to a leader who takes over your democracy and burns everything to hell.
            I learned this, repeatedly, while I was in Germany for a weeklong lecture on the 2016 U.S. presidential election hosted by the State Department and German officials. As I hopped from one beautiful, Old World city to another, from Hamburg to Frankfurt to Munich to Berlin, every person I spoke to said that the rise of business mogul-turned-reality-TV star-turned-GOP front-runner Donald Trump reminded them of the early stages of Adolf Hitler’s rise to power.
            “How is he so successful?” asked a student reporting for her school paper.
            “Doesn’t America know how dangerous he is?” asked an irritated Gen X woman in Hamburg.
            Germans, like Europeans in general, can draw direct lines from violent, aggressive rhetoric to bombs destroying their homes, millions being displaced and whole nations collapsing. The scars of World War I, World War II, even the war in the Balkans in the ’90s, all still affect Germans and other Europeans. Pieces of the “Berlin Wall” are still for sale in souvenir shops.
            http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/03/to_germans_there_s_something_familiar_about_donald_trump/

          15. mac12sam12 says

            You know you people are really off the charts. Even the wackiest liberal pundit on TV doesn’t come up with that lame comparison. Get a life

          16. Rodney Dietz says

            Do you realize how out of context your video is? Who’s speaking? FBI, CIA or Democrat Senator? What was forged and why was media not all over that story? More over why didn’t FBI or CIA charge Trey for that assertion?
            Ehijah Cummings “Flaming Liberal” authored the email in question!
            Last but not least this video setting is in 2015! The very corrupt Obama, Holder, Hillary and Comey are still in control! “Fox still in the hen house”

            Can you say “Liberal Propaganda?
            If Obama, Hillary, Holder, Comey are all corrupt “and they were” The awesome power each held could cover almost anything, unless your as stupid as Comey and Hillary or out of Office like now. The truth is coming.

          17. Retired Marine says

            That would be your portion of the FBI, I was talking about real agents, not demoncrats.

          18. gotabgood says

            It has been YOUR congress since 2010…. Trey Gowdy is one of your yours

            He was a registered Republican for many years
            In testimony on Capitol Hill, Comey insisted that his FBI is “resolutely apolitical.”
            Comey himself, however, does have a partisan past — as a Republican.
            “I have been a registered Republican for most of my adult life,” he said before adding that he is “not registered any longer.”
            http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/who-is-james-comey-fbi-director-things-to-know/index.html

      4. America1st says

        Comey said no evidence of her lying under oath. FBI didn’t put her “questioning” under oath. Besides, Comey had drafted her acquittal 2-3 months prior to “questioning” Hillary. Presumably, they only talked about their grandchildren and golf while Hillary was being “questioned.”

        1. gotabgood says

          And you know this, how?
          National Enquirer
          Breitbart
          Coast to Coast
          Joe the Plumber
          some blog
          share your information

          1. mac12sam12 says

            ll thhttps://www.politico.com/blogs/james-comey-testimony/2016/07/james-comey-clinton-not-lie-fbi-225212 All those outlets you listed are much better than the channels of “unnamed sources” and “a WH insider” CNN an MSNBC, homes of the low infos.

          2. Lizzie2 says

            You left out Hannity, Fox News, and the guy who impulsivly wears two shirts! Mr. Bannon…who is certifiable.

      5. Retired says

        Do you honestly Trust what is coming from the FBI – Comey and Mueller , they are part of the swamp covering for some of the swamp creatures . Honesty is history in politics these days and has probably been gone longer than we all can understand .

        1. gotabgood says

          You mistrust the FBI and Comey, but believe Trump and his appointees? Most of his appointees have been caught lying, 4 are under arrest… even the attorney general
          Do you trust the bible?
          You seem to have all the networks a bunch of liars, but a couple of blogs are ok?
          Do you see how paranoid that looks?
          You can’t come on ANY blog and have them tell you what truth is.
          If ABC tells you something and you think ,,mmmmm
          And if CBS says the same thing….. you think …well…
          And if NBC say the same thing
          And Huffington Post backs them all
          And Fox says something different….. do you choose one over the four?
          Or if 4 to 1 does not satisfy you and it is about something in a state or city, go to that city or state and look at local news papers.
          If it is about something in a different country, go to that country.
          It is good to be skeptical, not paranoid.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/727b202f29334ff1c600b81b843992c287a2a9dfcd9dff1e68b9d62e8d8abb12.jpg

          1. Retired says

            Now is that your true picture HAHA ??? If you will notice many writers stopped using their names to articles and most stories come from a hand full of sources . Most of us can think for ourselves and see what is going on in the so called free world controlled by the UN and their branches .The one group worse than the UN is the IMF/IMG – World Central Bank with the Bilderberg Group controlling them .

          2. gotabgood says

            I do not get involved in conspiracy theories…. I have one 9/11/2001
            Whether you watch/listen to this song is up to you.
            I base my convictions on 4 questions.
            Where is plane at the Pentagon?
            Where is plane in field in Pennsylvania
            Why did three buildings free fall straight down?
            Why did Building 7 fall at all?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5tyb98gCQ8

          3. Retired says

            There were many stories about the building collapse, from poor quality material to charges set off after the plane hit . Just like a certain group of people did not show up for work that day .You know there were plane parts found at the other places . Don’t play dumb !!!

          4. Retired says

            Typical talk about one subject and then play switch . Not much difference between a Demon Rat and Undependent party .

          5. gotabgood says

            Yes, that’s me… Scared? See why I am for gun control… I don’t need a gun to do damage.. hahahaha

          6. Retired says

            You are bad , lump of coal for xmas .

      6. Retired Marine says

        Because Comey is a liar himself, do you not receive any news updates?

        1. gotabgood says

          and what would you call Trump?

      7. Retired says

        That is not What Comey said and you know it, so stop acting dumb .

        1. gotabgood says

          You can say anything you… with no proof… I on the other hand have to PROVE everything to you.
          How about the next time you disagree with something I post… check it out FIRST… before you call me a liar..
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsxwtW6PWSc

    2. Ron Dapo says

      Katia, tell it like it is. Could not have said it any better!

    3. David in MA says

      Communist tactics at work.
      Folks, please read the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and the UN AGENDA 21 they both are online, learn what the Clintons, Obama’s and their goons are up to.

      1. AKLady says

        Actually, David, you are a prime example of Communist success.
        A house divided cannot stand. Trump has done much to foster and encourage division. Our country is on a seesaw. The hate is palpable.
        Hate immigrants. Hate Muslims. Hate Mexicans. Hate Hispanics Hate Obama.Hate the poor.

        1. David in MA says

          More accurately you don’t know what your talking about, only a Clinton/Obama follower would make a comment like yours. Troll.

          1. AKLady says

            You post is prime evidence supporting the statement I made.
            Propaganda and brainwashing are the tools of Communism.
            Name calling is very immature behavior.

          2. got my licence says

            David was not name calling, He is stating a fact, you are a Troll.

          3. AKLady says

            Another illiterate, immature poster.

          4. Retired says

            AK >>>Yes you are with the Trask you post .

          5. AKLady says

            Thank you. We’re all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.

          6. Lizzie2 says

            How were you able to optain a licence?

          7. Sol_of_Texas says

            Your poor proofreading has led me to BANISH YOU, TOO.

          8. David in MA says

            Go hug a polar bear….

          9. Retired says

            The Polar Bear would run and hide if it saw AK NO Lady .

          10. AKLady says

            Are insults the best you have to offer?
            So sad …

          11. Lizzie2 says

            What they are proving is their painful lack of ability to even comprehend the term “Critical Thought”. I fear that we are both wasting time attempting to engage them in intelligent (and mature) conversation.

          12. Retired says

            Are YOU and AK one and the same just a different script ???? You sound just as brain dead with your burps .

          13. AKLady says

            You made an impression, but not the one you desired.

          14. Retired says

            Did you just fart something ??? So you and Lizziie fart the same tune ???

          15. AKLady says

            Targeted harassment — posted or encouraged others to post harassing comments or hate speech targeting me, other individuals, or groups

          16. Retired says

            The truth is not harassment !!!

          17. AKLady says

            Given the fact that many individuals read these posts, our actions are not a waste of time. Sharing knowledge is never a waste of time. The “dumbing down” of America is frightening to behold.

          18. Lizzie2 says

            You are definitely a TOOL David. And so painfully lacking in knowledge. But you DO have your opinion; and the right to remain stupid/

          19. Retired says

            Bragging about yourself again .You are just like AK or are you one and the same ???

        2. Retired says

          AK TROLL >>>>> You are spreading more hate with your BS than anyone else.

          1. cabowabo78727 says

            AK Blocked forever and loving it!

          2. Sol_of_Texas says

            yes … banished … I have no time for its nonsense.

          3. Lizzie2 says

            Which actually means that you have no desire to enhance your intellect.

          4. Retired says

            Well, you are not adding any intellect with your out bursts !!!

          5. Sol_of_Texas says

            I enjoy respectful discourse. I discount repetition of partisan “talking points”

          6. Lizzie2 says

            You are the one who is losing 78727. Persist in sticking your fingers into your ears while chanting…”la-la-la, I can’t hear you”. It’s a good way to remain uniformed instead of learning something from other’s opinions.

          7. George Whitney Sr says

            Your right “Retired” AK is not a lady, tis a troll.

          8. Lizzie2 says

            Oh dear! You cannot change can you retired? You persist in clinging to your misguided ideas.

          9. Retired says

            Dizzy lizzie , whos place in the troll line up are you taking . Are you one of those man eating Trolls ????

          10. Lizzie2 says

            Feeling threatened by a pair of smart women? That’s OK Retired; Do not feel that we diminish you.

          11. Retired says

            You two are one and the same dingbats ,that make good women look bad .Better go take your meds .

        3. Jerry Hughes says

          You left out the liberal dem bloodsuckers, liberal parasite.
          We have learned to hate you liberal scum and have all come to realize that we can no longer coexist with you.
          Very soon we will physically separate ourselves from you and then kick back and watch you garbage starve to death.

          1. AKLady says

            Make America HATE again, the one campaign promise Trump has kept.
            I suspect, given the venom spewing from your mouth, your are a right-wing, slelf-proclaimed conservative and probably a “saved” Christian, as well.

          2. Lizzie2 says

            Take another pill Jerry. And speed dial a shrink who specializes in serious anger.

          3. Retired says

            Dizzie Lizzie >>>>> Why don’t you practice what you preach .

          4. AKLady says

            You almost made it to thirty seconds without an insult. I think you set a new record.

          5. Retired says

            You old GOAT got a problem , better go back to your padded room and take your meds ???

        4. Lizzie2 says

          And may I add (Hate Women), AKLady?
          The Putin puppet doesn’t realize that he has been played to destable our Democracy. He has encouraged anger, prejudice, racism and just plain hatred in some Americans. Those are the people who require enough education to enable them to use their heads, not their egos. If they want to they can look into informing themselves about Mr. Trump; his insecurity; his business failures and illeagal business practices. And most important, the emerging facts that help to understand how and why his actions are being controlled by others.

          1. AKLady says

            Anger, prejudice, racism and just plain hatred have always existed. Trump has made them acceptable.

            History reflects 1930s – 1940s Germany needed a focus for its failures. Jews were made the target. We all should know how that worded out, however, there are Holocaust deniers ..

            America has been provided targets: Hispanics and Muslims.

            Do you remember the Russian that hammered the table with his shoe? The one who clearly said they would take over America from within? Trump appears to be that victory.

          2. Retired says

            No that was Obama your king and not Trump .

          3. AKLady says

            Obama is no longer President. Suggest you catch up with current events.

          4. Retired says

            The way he is parading around the world and USA , he thinks so . Just think of all the money it costs the tax payers every time he goes some place . You could have gotten more on you SS and paid less for Medicare .

          5. AKLady says

            Obama’s post-presidency travel is no different than other past Presidents.
            Get a life.

          6. Retired says

            He has traveled more in less than one year than any other president , just because he is a Muslim like you it is ok . Typical lackey response .

      2. Timothy Thompson says

        Don’t forget to pull up The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals, talk about an eye opener it will explain why all this is happening and how far they have succeeded in infiltrating every department in the US, our media, our schools, all the social fabric of America under attack. Please read it, it will blow your mind. These people in the FBI, DOJ are doing what they do because they don’t fear the deep state, they are the deep state.

        1. James Higginbotham says

          also read RULES FOR RADICALS BY SAUL ALINSKY, it falls right in line with the Communist Manifesto as well.
          COMMUNISM IS NOT DEAD, LIKE SATAN, THEY’RE BOTH ALIVE AND WELL IN THE DEMORAT PARTY AND NEED DESTROYED BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE.

          1. Lizzie2 says

            Hoorah! someone else has finally discovered the “mantra” produced by Saul Alinsky. Congrads on your late blooming.

          2. Retired says

            You will never bloom by not having anything good to add .

          3. James Higginbotham says

            oh i knew about that COMMUNIST SOB A LONG TIME AGO.
            and he is one of OLD HILLARY BEASTS HERO’S.

          4. Maureen Hannon says

            James Higg, You’re right, but be careful, people who speak the ugly truth about certain people often end up dead.

          5. James Higginbotham says

            Maureen.
            thanks Ma’am, but people have been trying to kill me for years, and i am STILL HERE.
            i am an OLE COMBAT MARINE and fought in three countries, and SURVIVED all those SOB’S could throw at me, by GOD’S GRACE AND MY SKILLS.
            and am STILL ALWAYS READY AND PREPARED.
            Merry Christmas Ma’am.

        2. Lizzie2 says

          Don’t forget also, to place your “hero” into the middle of such a possible takeover. TT. Because some think that it truly began with the 2016 election.

          1. Timothy Thompson says

            Sorry Lizzie2 you have to go way back to November 22, 1963 the start of our spiraling American values and the Hippies who started the free love movement along with the drug culture. President Trump although you on the left hate him, his record so far disproves your fears I should hope, our economy is turning around from 8 years of the left having total control with Obama’s administration and his belief that mediocrity is the new norm. Trumps proving him wrong. Thank God.

        3. Lizzie2 says

          oh Timothy, you give yourself away…..Think about it, you refer to the “deep state” which brands you as a Hannity/Bannon fan. Hannity has a habit of twisting events of the day into outlandish, untrue facts and conspiracies. Many of his radio and TV fans blindly believe him, because they see him as a “News Man”. (If he were he would be working for a News Corporation. not a business that would have you believe they are.), with the exception of a few actual personalities such as Shep Smith. Please learn to check the reliability of what you are being told. Here is an example
          (You believe that a claim made in an email written in 2013 by someone called David Mikkelson is factual…It Blew Your Mind!! Aug 2, 2013 – A list of ‘Communist Rules for Revolution’ supposedly discovered by Allied forces in Germany in 1919. … but, as an example, the line states as follows “fretting about the “registration of all firearms” sounds out of place for 1919. (Since the issue of registration of firearms was not something to worry about in 1919) And also the. word “sexy” was not commonly used at that time to describe an issue to be worried about. In fact, in 1919 one would find it difficult for any writer to use it in the way that you read it…since the word was not commonly used at that time.
          “sexy is a word one was far more likely to have encountered in America during the post-World War “….

          1. Retired says

            All the Clowns like you ridiculed McCarty in the 50s when he said we had Communist in our Gov. , well he was not wrong . Tell us all about it when standing on the street corner begging for a bowl of rice .People like you crawl up Chinas rear and buy all the garbage that they produce for Wally Mart and Amazon , while putting stores out of business .

          2. DAlnB41 says

            It makes no difference what many (most) of these men and women in televised and written journals say, or even want us to believe! They are paid astonishing amounts of money to say what their networks and publishers want them to say.
            I find it so amazing that we seem to have lost our respect and trust in our government but still seem to want to believe certain “alleged” reporters and educated “talk Show” hosts and personalities. One is just as bad as the other – – – matter of fact, I believe the ones we – – hear from the most are the most unreliable ones(media and politicians) – – – they seem to want to be in the center of the situation. The quite ones – hopefully are in their office doing their jobs and trying to stay outside the quickly declining loss of respect and trust.

          3. Lizzie2 says

            Then we are not so different “B41” My rant is a result of many of the sources you document. I a m disturbed by those individuals who form their opinions based on a 15 minute “news” report, and similar condensed sources. And then they vote.
            My trust in the foundations of our government is often what keeps me from despair. Example: the obvious inability of the current president to conduct himself in the manner that befits his office would worry me more if I did not have faith in the checks and balances existing in our constitution.

            If more people would take “facts” that they are told with a grain of salt until they consider their sources sources and check there accuracy, we’d be much better served. I prefer sources like Rachael Madow who presents validated and factual information (pro and con) and can be depended upon to correct faulty information that she may have reported.

      3. Graywolf12 says

        Add the 1963 communist goals , and Rules for Radicals.

      4. Lizzie2 says

        Better that you fear the Putin Puppet who presently resides in the White House David.
        As for learning a few things….I suggest that you read up on Mr. Trump’s life story before you choose a hero.

        1. Timothy Thompson says

          Lizzie2
          The Communist takeover of America 45 declared goals was presented in 1963 which found their way to Washington. A Mr. Jeff Rense posted it on his site http://www.rense.com. Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
          Current Communist Goals Extension of remarks of Hon. A.S. Herlong, Jr. of Florida in the House of Representatives Thursday, January 10, 1963.
          Mr. Herlong, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Florida, is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America. Had nothing to do with Sean Hannity although I do respect his pursuit of the issues of the day. The goals if you read through them have already pretty much been accomplished and unfortunately we see the results of their actions with the continuous attacks by the Democratic Communist Party in full attack mode against a legally sitting president voted in by the American people. Shameless.

    4. Retired Marine says

      Outstanding, one question, just why the hell does Allred still have a license to practice lying to the public? That is one hag that needs to be disbarred.
      Semper Fi

      1. ernldo says

        I’d rather see the pig in a body bag!

        1. Retired Marine says

          Affirmative,
          Semper Fi

      2. JEH says

        Thanks for your service!

        1. Retired Marine says

          Thank You.

      3. Lizzie2 says

        She is a professional who specilizes in cases where men attempt to dominate women.
        She understands that this is due to insecurity re: their “manhood”.

    5. Al Battista says

      So RIGHT ON!

    6. Shelba Herring says

      Liberals don’t have brains, they all play monkey see monkey do, whatever one starts the rest fall in line to copy them

      1. Lizzie2 says

        As evidence in the thread of comments on all those prior posts. Rigid ignorance, anger and a need to dominate. The kind of men that you like?

        1. Retired says

          I doubt a real man would have anything to do with you , you sound like another R O’Donnell .

    7. Steve Gobble says

      Very well said and a matter of fact.

    8. gotabgood says

      Name one lie of Hillary… your best lie..
      Name one criminal act of Obama and why is he not arrested?

      1. mac12sam12 says

        Lying to the FBI and congress. Destroying 33,000 e-mails when she was told to turn them in. She was told to turn in 13 devices and her corrupt crew destroyed them with hammers.

        Obama should have been impeached, but he’s black so he gets an Affirmative Action pass, the bar was lowered for him. Writing laws from the Oval Office, and using the IRS to target his enemies which is one of the reasons Nixon was impeached.

        1. gotabgood says

          Your congress and your FBI says YOU are lying..

          1. mac12sam12 says

            I hear what you’re saying, don’t believe my lying eyes. In front of congress she said she didn’t put classified e-mails on a private server. That’s perjury and the old bag no longer has Obama and lynch protecting her.

            Then there’s the Uranium One deal. Hey Hillary! What’s in your wallet?

          2. gotabgood says

            Your congress and Comey says, you are lying..
            take it up with them…..

          3. mac12sam12 says

            Do you think what Clinton did is just water under the bridge? It’s not over, maybe for Hillary! #LockHerUp You do know that Hillary isn’t for the middle class, she stands with Wall Street, the donors and the lobbyists.

          4. gotabgood says

            You must have a skull 2 inches thick…… how many ways can I say this… decades of investigations have said she is innocent..
            get a life… last time with you and Hillary..

          5. mac12sam12 says

            Obama and Lynch are no longer in office and she WILL be investigated. party hack.

          6. mac12sam12 says

            IT WAS ON TV! HILLARY, “I DIDN”T PUT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION ON A PRIVATE SERVER.”

      2. Retired Marine says

        Benghazi, blame it on a video, just one for you.

        1. gotabgood says

          You have to start at the BEGINNING… Here is the beginning of the problem….
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6BLMz1chEM

          Here is what happened..
          and by the way.. you do know that YOUR congress investigated that since 2012? Do you know ALL the investigation found no wrongful doing AND there was NO STAND DOWN ORDER GIVEN!! (Except in the movie) Then you hero Trey Gowdy who turned into a goat took charge with NO RESULTS OF WRONG DOING
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LnkZ7Drk9s

          And then this..
          Chris Stevens’s Family: Don’t Blame Hillary Clinton for Benghazi
          https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi

          1. mac12sam12 says

            Forces on the ground said that military jets could have been there in hours to stop the attack which went on all night. It was a coverup for another obama gun running scheme. Another lie by Clinton and crew, the attack happened because of a video. You’re a party hack, admit it!

    9. Lizzie2 says

      Your unrequited anger and irational thinking is what is sickening, dear Katia. I recommend therapy and aggressive gym workouts in order to assuage your rage attacks.

    10. DAlnB41 says

      The criminal Justice system and educated law professors as well as social workers will tell you that one of the factors people will consider before committing a crime is their chance of getting by with their crime, the chance of being caught. That “chance” has always been a reason for not committing the crime!
      In today’s world being caught means little; what fear is there in “being caught” or in being prosecuted for about any violation in today’s society?
      Before the Obama Administration our government and criminal justice system had a high level of credibility and pubic confidence. We felt if we did something wrong we would be caught, prosecuted and punished according to law. We knew too that we could be fined or jailed or both. That has changed though; most of it makes little difference now and there is little concern about being caught and facing prosecution or even a trial. There is no longer a concern about spreading lies, accusations and “what if” scenarios or having any concern about being caught and then labeled as a liar. You are more apt to be labeled a sexist, racial bigot or of about any -insult- (factual or perceived) the media can dig up.
      The chances of being prosecuted for doing wrong has been narrowed to such a small percentage of violators that the only concern seems to be – which televised network can get to it first, make the most of it, air the greatest number of guest “experts”, and keep it aired and running the longest!
      In criminal activities law set a time period for charging and prosecution; Statute of Limitations. Apparently in civil law there is none and people can hold off saying anything for 20, 30, 50 years and longer then ruin peoples lives with accusations that are far beyond any means of proving them.
      The fact is, I believe most of what we hear today is a stretch of, if anything, the imagination of the alleged victims ideas of what TRULY happened and the complainants find enjoyment in creating problems for someone and seeing their name on public media. The days when we gave measured consideration to privacy has diminished; todays technology opens every ones life to the public and the embarrassments of the past are no longer of concern today. So much of today’s accusations and stories need not even need proof.
      Many of the complains may have some fact to it but my guess is, most are stretched beyond fact and just as the media and radical politicians tries so hard to do – stretch the story into something it is not. Actually, I believe, some political accusations and stories are the fabrication of a team of Hate and Smear specialist funded by special interest groups with an intent to create hate, discontent and confusion; maybe with a goal of creating a failed government and society as we know it! Dig up a copy the writings of Bruce Bawer in; The Victims’ Revolution: The Rise of Identity Politics and the Closing of the Liberal Mind.

      It seems to me FAR TO MUCH effort is given in creating hate, confusion and expanding distention with both criminal and social disturbance and comparatively LITTLE concern in fixing the mess our country has fallen into in the past eight years!

  6. Austinniceguy says

    The fact is that no matter what, Old One Shoe is from the most corrupt, protected class on the face of this planet. The good news is that NO MATTER WHAT, she will ONLY go down in the history books as the loser who couldn’t beat President Trump. More and more of her lies and corruption will be exposed and that’s a great thing but, her future is now cast in stone.

  7. Ron Dapo says

    Please show your recent headline Billy,so we can check it out! Or are you just spreading bull sh-it.

    1. gotabgood says

      Why would you be interested in a reference?? Do you give them at all?

      1. bobails says

        gotabgood..time for you to be GOTABGONE! PACK YOUR BAGS. Minsk is a wonderful Russian city. Bernie took his bride to honeymoon there. But better take your parka…pretty cold.

        1. elmcqueen3 says

          Bernie loves the Russians…he’s an old die hard “commie” his self.

  8. dolittle says

    I don’t trust the government in any form or fashion from the president to the congress and senate PLUS all the useless agency’s including the fbi the cia and insa and all the other so called security agencies they lost all my trust when bill clinton was president it was almost there when kenndy and johson was put in it will take a hell of a lot to regain any trust

    1. gotabgood says

      That’s because you listen to National Enquirer, Breitbart, Joe the Plumber, Dredge Report or some blog like this for your facts alternative facts..

  9. gotabgood says

    T r u m p ’ s L i e s UPDATED July 21, 2017
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html
    >
    Donald Trump makes 21 false claims in Missouri speech about tax plan
    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2017/11/28/daniel-dales-donald-trump-fact-check-updates.html

  10. Mathew Molk says

    When a Republican allegedly lies to the FIB(not a typo) they get indicted. When the Cackling Witch lies it’s OK? Where is Jeff the inert Sessions on this. He should have issued papers on her the day he walked into his office.

  11. Eric Pearson says

    OMG. Look who’s talking about “internal logic”. Laughable since logic and fact don’t even exist in the world of Trump. Except for the Kellyanne Conway versions, of course.
    I read extraordinary claims on this site every single time I happen upon it. I’ll give you this though. You most definitely are experts when it comes to “fake news”.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Like your polls that said :Hillery in a landslide. – And The Dow, and the Employment rate,,,,,You clowns have all of them in the toilet,,,but the truth is 180 out from what you snowflakes say.

    2. ABO says

      This from Eric Pearson, who relies on stories that he has fabricated and passes off as truth. HA.

  12. Jeffrey Cahoon says

    Anyone can say what they will. We The People, including Trump, know for a fact that Clinton is a LIAR and a THIEF, and is the most corrupt politician in the history of this country! And what I find incredible is, there are people who still support her! These are the IDIOTS everyone saw on the news who were seen crying when Clinton lost the election! So, maybe I’m missing something here, what is the point of this article?

    1. Topher Smith says

      Fact huh? Details?

      1. Ladypyro says

        Fact 1: Liar. She lied to congress about her email perverted. She lied about supporting women’s rights. Track record of dissing other women about her husband being a sexual pervert. I can go on but you get the gist. Fact 2. Illegal server in her basement. What ever is said she still had an illegal server. Fact 3. She took items from the Whitehouse that were not hers when she and hubby left. A TRUCK was sent to recover them. Fact 4. The Haitians did not receive monies due that she fundraiser for them. Haiti still needs those funds. Fact 5. She had Russian contact during her time as Secretary of state for the Uranium One deal, which is being investigated as we speak.
        Get over it she lost the election, thank God. It’s time to start focusing on more important issues, like the deficit Obama left us with.

        1. Topher Smith says

          Okay. Crazy much? Triggered, snowflake? Now how about some links that support your claims? The uranium deal is not being investigated. Tell me about it….

          1. Rodney Dietz says

            Pull your hands out of that diaper and hit the key board like your professor taught you! You don’t need links, you need eyes and at least half a brain to read the facts, however here: Current FBI Director Fray “confirmed” on going IG investigation into Clinton’s vrs. Russia corruption.

            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/fbi-director-wray-grilled-by-republicans-over-bias-concerns-in-russia-clinton-email-cases.html

            By the way, calling Ladypyro names is not a defense like you were taught, intelligent people see right through it and as you type back to say “that’s not proof” or “you need more” which you were also taught, it just shows how ignorant your fight is!

          2. Topher Smith says

            Wow. You are a weirdo with multiple accounts. There is no investigation, tard.

          3. Rodney Dietz says

            lol one account and as we knew was coming, you didn’t read the article nor would you admit a legit source.

          4. Topher Smith says

            Liar. Yes I did. Link to 3 credible sites that back you up. https://m.facebook.com/rodney.dietz?_rdr

          5. Retired Marine says

            There are not three credible sites for you, other than msnbc, cnn, and the cartoon network.

          6. Topher Smith says

            Wrong. Try again or stfu.

          7. Rodney Dietz says
          8. Topher Smith says
          9. mac12sam12 says
      2. Retired Marine says

        Don’t know what factual details means? Then why the hell are you on your Mom’s computer anyway?

        1. Topher Smith says

          Drive.

  13. Phil Esposito says

    Lock her up!!

    1. Andrew Molina says

      Public stocks – have a bad day, exercise by dancing all over her carcass

  14. Jon McCrory says

    Clinton Both her and Willie are nothing but pay for play CORRUPT People who should be in Leavenworth. Along with obama the FRAUD president and many others including Comey and Lynch

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      But the astonishing thing is: NONE OF THESE LYING BASTARDS WILL EVER BE PUNISHED! They all cover each others asses. Otherwise, the little halfbreed faggot would already be locked up. Instead, he lavishes in his mansion, a stone’s throw from OUR white house, awaiting further orders from geo soreass!!

      1. Topher Smith says

        Name the lies/crimes. Sources? Links?

        1. Retired Marine says

          Do your own research, it may open even your eyes. Maybe then you can get clothing other than your diaper, and join the rest of the world, your parents basement must be getting cramped.

          1. Topher Smith says

            How do I research something in the mind of someone else? Do I need to share the parts of an argument, dropout?

          2. Retired Marine says

            Oh poor baby, did my comment hurt your tiny feelings? Go get a nice sugar tit until your momma comes to change your diaper.

          3. Topher Smith says

            No, not at all. Your comment was retarded and nonsensical.

          4. Rodney Dietz says

            I know your “Flaming liberal” professor taught you to pull your hands out of your diaper and tap that key board till you find your answers. In this case were asking you to leave the facts alone and read them as written instead of twisting them like you were taught.

          5. Topher Smith says

            Reported.

          6. Rodney Dietz says

            Lets see how that works out for you! LMAO I’m sorry your offended!

          7. Topher Smith says
          8. Topher Smith says

            We will see if your employers are offended by your posts. Good luck, retard.

          9. Topher Smith says

            Why? You are bitter old trash. Good luck.

          10. Topher Smith says
          11. mac12sam12 says

            OMG!! She’s topless! I never noticed!!

          12. Retired Marine says

            LOL, THATS why it couldn’t make it as a hooker.

          13. mac12sam12 says

            You FN pussy

        2. John D says

          Troll

          1. Topher Smith says

            How so?

          2. mac12sam12 says

            Looks like your diaper has a crap stain on it, go tell mama. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/polls-hillary-clinton-win_us_5821074ce4b0e80b02cc2a94

        3. mac12sam12 says

          Lying to the FBI and congress. Destroyng 33,000 e-mails after she was told to turn them in. The only Russian connection was between Hillary and signing the Uranium One deal after taking a $145 million dollar bribe.

      2. David in MA says

        We may get a surprise in Trumps second term.

      3. theking says

        General Sessions is a man of great integrity; very honest and we are now seeing him stepping forward after he had familiarized himself with the new job he is in. He has asked prosecutors to delve into Hillary/;Benghazi , Uranium sales, and provide him input as to whether appointing special counsel to investigate these areas is warranted. We just have to hope the people he picks for this job are not the same caliber as those on the Mueller committee.

    2. theking says

      Obama must surely have been involved (personally) with the IRS targeting conservative persons and agencies; Fast and Furious; Benghazi lies and coverup to protect reelection of Obama; Using illegal means to spy on select individuals that Obama and his administration determined were enemies; Destruction of the Nation of Libya; non action on Obama red line (coward)., This congress must dig deep, uncover the lawless actions and take punitive actions . MAGA

      1. Rodney Dietz says

        I’m sure I have for gotten as many corruptions as I remembered during Obama Reign. You reminded me of the IRS corruption. True to form, during the Obama era, no information could be had from any agency and Obama didn’t direct any agency to cooperate nor did they! Today were still weeding out those who think its ok to hide or refuse information to convict.

  15. Will Higgins says

    Why are conservatives still opposed with Hilary Clinton?

    1. Mathew Molk says

      If you don’t know there is nothing we can tell you that you are able to comprehend.

      1. Will Higgins says

        I just don’t why Republicans are talking more about Clinton. You’re all basically forcing her to be more relevant then her own supporters want her to be.

    2. Frank Taylor says

      She compromised government classified information and got a slap on the wrist. Her own aides lied under oath to FBI during the investigation and nothing happened to either Abedin or Mills.

      1. Will Higgins says

        Is any proof that classified information passed through her private server?

  16. Larry Brule says

    YOU HAVE TO ADDMIT, KILLARY HAS A WAY OF LYING TO YOUR FACE AND CALLING IT THE TRUTH. ONLY TRUMP HAS CALLED HER ON IT.

  17. Moe says

    Look,my he FBI leaders believe the American people are stupid and they do not have to obey the requests of Congress or fairly enforce the law unless they feel like it. All these lies and over ups now are only to protect sneaky Obama.

    1. Mike W says

      IF Obama – or whatever the hell his name really is – was such a stand up guy – why was he so desperate to seal ALL of his records away from the public? The left wing loons will never answer that.

  18. j.p. says

    Is anyone surprised that she lies about everything and gets backed up by the corrupt people in the FBI. I would bet the good, honest people there would love to tell the REAL story behind all this BS.

  19. Max Thor says

    The FBI and the Justice Dept both STINK TO HIGH HEAVEN. These corrupt agencies are trying to overturn an election that they did not agree with…These agencies need to be disbanded and started over again. They no longer have America interest and only work for their own..

  20. justanagent says

    Two questions:
    1. Tax reform: We have a huge underground economy that that is being ignored and untaxed. Pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers and other criminals generally do not declare their income or pay taxes on it. So, how do we get them to pay their fair share?
    2. There is an enormous amount of criminal conduct to investigate if the DOJ will just look in the right direction. What is it going to take to get Jeff Sessions to come out of hiding, stop ducking his responsibilities and do his job?

    1. Topher Smith says

      What criminal conduct?

      1. justanagent says

        It’s a long list but we could start with unlawfully and knowingly mishandling classified material. bribery, espionage (approving a deal that allowed 20% of our uranium to end up in Russian hands via a complicated scheme that resulted in a good portion of the profits to go to the Clinton Foundation), money laundering, and the list goes on, but for justice to be done we will need to clean out the corruption at the FBI, get an attorney general that will do his job, have a REAL investigation and indict the REAL criminals. If we are ever going to restore legitimacy and public confidence in our federal criminal justice system we must fairly investigate ALL criminal conduct regardless of politics. What we have seen so far is a one sided partisan abuse of office that has strayed from it’s mandate producing only a few minor indictments which have little or nothing to do with the original purpose of the investigation. We now know that this whole “investigation” was predicated on a giant hoax. It is now coming apart and blowing up in Mueller’s face, thanks to some good investigative journalists. When its over as it eventually will be I hope we have an AG who will have the courage to do his job by investigating and prosecuting the hoaxers who started it using a dossier they knew was fabricated. This is not about justice or the rule of law. It is an illegitimate and subversive attempt by a shadow government it’s deep state allies to nullify a legitimate election that did not turn out the way they planned it. They should tread lightly lest they discover why the founders wrote the second amendment into our Constitution.

        1. Topher Smith says

          Okay. Sources? Share your level of education and 3 trusted news sites.

          1. justanagent says

            OK, but not right now . My grand kids are giving a concert tonight and I plan to be there. What would y consider “trusted” news sites? Seems that one by one the so called “main streamers” are losing their credibility. We need a frame of reference we can both agree. I noted you mentioned level of education. That seems to be a common thread that runs through almost every discourse with someone who identifies as “liberal”. It’s as though they think it confers some level of intellectual superiority. While I am certainly not ashamed of my level of education, I will not disclose it as it is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. The world is full of educated idiots who can’t pour piss out of a boot with the directions printed on the heel. Intellectual honesty is much more important

          2. Topher Smith says

            I asked you. Your trusted news sites. You have no education or you would share it. Why post gibberish?

          3. Andrew Molina says

            Your redirection is empty handed – unfortunately, there is no room in your hands since that is where your junk always is

          4. Topher Smith says

            What “redireection”?

          5. Topher Smith says

            Oh, and reported. Get an creepier and this thread will be forwarded.

          6. justanagent says

            Unwarranted assumptions…You have no idea what my level of education is and for the purpose this discussion it has no relevance nor do titles confer intellectual superiority. I will tell you this. It is quite likely that my IQ is higher than yours but we will never know because I’m not going to disclose it. It doesn’t matter which one of us is “smarter”. What does matter is truth and intellectual honesty. If you want me to “source it” I will, but we must first agree on what qualifies as a credible source. It seems that once trusted main stream media outlets are being caught in lies and half truths almost daily. We need a frame of reference to start from.

          7. Topher Smith says

            Drivel. Why not just share? Share your sources and quit deflecting.

          8. justanagent says

            Because if I cite a source I want it to be one we will both agree is credible. That’s not “drivel” …just a means of ensuring that you cannot deny the accuracy of what I state. So, name a few sources you consider credible and I will research what they have reported on the issues we are discussing. Of course that will include some fact checking with other sources. I’m actually looking forward to this debate.

          9. Topher Smith says

            I will consider what you share. I read everything. Put up or shut up.

          10. Rodney Dietz says

            Retired Marine warned you justanagent! Topher Smith “The professional Troll” will just play with you and not one intelligent fact, thought or conversation will come from IT’s post! IT’s Professor screwed IT’s mind as college’s all over the country are doing to our youth every where.
            You will get:
            Endless insults
            Require Endless facts but never reads or acknowledges
            All IT’s comments based in opinion and typically twisted to fit the agenda
            Giant “IF” they provide proof “check it” taken out of context or not even related
            Try’s to make you appear UN-intelligent
            If all that fails? Start over again with insults.

            They are obvious by observing the strict adherence to the rules/structure of Liberal twisted delusion taught by the Liberal twisted delusional professor.

          11. Topher Smith says

            I share easily verifiable facts. Your ilk share uneducated opinions and hide. You should share something of substance or stop now. https://m.facebook.com/rodney.dietz?_rdr

          12. Rodney Dietz says

            LOL I would have gladly shared actual FB with you if you simply asked! Congrats! You are following you’re Liberal professors teaching to a tee
            “He/She must be so proud” and you don’t like being exposed, I understand!

          13. Topher Smith says

            Liar. Good luck, little brain. Watch how easy it is to expose you. Name and number of employer?

          14. Rodney Dietz says

            LOL remember He/She taught you not to get caught up in this back and forth? You are failing!! OMG the anger is coming out, He/She taught you about that too! You are failing!

          15. Topher Smith says

            I am not angry. I am laughing at your stupidity. https://www.spokeo.com/Rodney-Dietz/Texas/Dallas/p947727381

          16. Rodney Dietz says

            Everyone here can see what an angry, immature child you are! You’re insults only work on weak minds. You should probably focus on Liberal sites!

          17. Topher Smith says
          18. Topher Smith says

            Insults? That is your number and address, not just your fb page. Good luck…

          19. Retired Marine says

            You mean crying in your Pablum. What a clown you are.

          20. Topher Smith says

            What? Pitiful old man.

          21. Retired Marine says

            Speaking of exposure, have your momma put you in some big boy clothes, no one can take you seriously while dressed in your diaper.

          22. Topher Smith says

            Forwarded. Flagged. Stop being creepy or speak to the police.

          23. AntiGOP says

            You’re not a Marine…you are a moron !!

          24. gotabgood says

            Paranoia

          25. Rodney Dietz says

            Yes! Liberal paranoia of our intelligence. Thank you for helping with a definition. I can imagine you didn’t want to.

          26. gotabgood says

            Concert!!!!!!??????? You feel safe taking your grand kids to a concert??? They haven’t improved gun regulations at all.
            Maybe wear a bullet proof vest..

          27. justanagent says

            You make an unwarranted assumption. It’s a middle school band Christmas concert and they are performing. Besides I’m always well armed (legally) and well trained (professionally) so they are well protected.

          28. gotabgood says

            Ok trained professional man
            You and your grand kids are at the concert in Vegas.
            I forgot the floor he was on.. 12th comes to mind… but whatever, he was elevated, loud music, dark, and he opens fire… you don’t even know where he is shooting from… what do you do with a pistol shooting at a target, your not even sure where he is at and from what I seen at least a couple hundred yards away… do your thing… wannabe rambo
            My question was more intent on you recognizing we are doing nothing for gun control, (not removal), for one, what was he doing with bump stocks in the first place… that help deer hunters?

          29. justanagent says

            More unwarranted assumptions. Neither I nor my family would have been at that open air concert. I consciously avoid such venues. Yes I have the advantage of being professionally trained both as a soldier and a law enforcement officer and have put that training to use protecting “high value targets”. The best way to protect a “high value target” is to avoid a high threat environment whenever possible. Since that is not always possible it pays to be well armed and well trained, maintain situational awareness and minimize exposure to threats. The purpose of the second amendment was to create an armed citizenry with access to the same basic small arms as the government thereby maintaining a balance of armed power in a population that could never be subjugated. It had nothing to do with deer hunting. It’s clear that you are a proponent of gun control so we will never agree on that issue. You see civil disarmament as a means of creating a safer society while I see it as a threat to our freedom rendering us unable to defend ourselves against criminals and government tyranny. With rights come responsibilities but I prefer to be more free even if it means being less safe. In a nation of 320 million people it is not possible to prevent every random act of mass violence but we already have enough laws, the Constitution being the supreme law of the land.

          30. gotabgood says

            You missed the boat.
            A thief, a murderer is not going to send you an email telling you that at such and such a time I will be at your house to rob you… or to kill you. For then you will be prepared. He will wait until you are asleep sneak in… or maybe you are watching a good movie and he just shoots you through the window!!
            What I am saying no matter how big of a Rambo you wannabe, you will never be ready for a SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every mass shooting was a SURPRISE…. NO ONE WAS READY!!!! In most cases, if everyone had a gun, more people would have been shot just out of confusion of who the shooter was.
            And the old saying that NRA gave you to pass around is, If you take the guns away, only the criminals will have guns….. Not true…. Most of the mass shootings, if not all, did not have a criminal record… so we would be safer as a whole if only criminals had guns. Normally they just want your goodies and not you… which brings me to a video… it is funny… so laugh…. but pay attention to the truth!!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZIOE6aMBk

          31. justanagent says

            We are just too far apart on this issue to ever agree. You are correct in that if a competent assailant targets you he will likely succeed UNLESS you become aware of the threat and preemptively eliminate it. MOST people will not do that. There are, however, a few exceptions. They are not “Rambo wannabes” . The ones I know just want to be left alone and allowed to live in peace, BUT anyone who threatens them or their families will quickly regret it, and they will not be deterred the threat of legal repercussions. Protecting their homes and families comes first. My home defenses are layered. I live at the end of a dead end road road with no crossroads in a rural community. I know who my neighbors are and we share information regarding any suspicious activity. I have two large dogs, both of which are protective and fully capable of taking down just about any adversary. Finally, I always have quick and easy access to a defensive firearm both long gun and pistol. As a law enforcement officer and a soldier, over the course of many years I have had the misfortune of being involved in more than one “gunfight”. I have had the good fortune of never being shot. In my first encounter I did almost everything tactically wrong and it still worked out right. That was just luck. Over the years I became better trained and more experienced. The main thing I learned is that events will never shape up or shake out according to your expectations. Training equals preparation. Train the way you plan to fight because you WILL fight the way you train. I am now ending this discussion.

          32. AntiGOP says

            Let’s see…there’s Breitbart News, Infowars and them there Fuckus News aka Fox News !!

            Did i guess right…

          33. Topher Smith says

            You had to guess?

          34. AntiGOP says

            nO gUESSING…

            I know it because every time I listen to those sources my sphincter mussel tightens up !!

            And we just got fucked today…repeal of Net Neutrality !!

            Get ready to receive your Corporate Fucking up the ass !!

            You want faster INTERNET…you will have to pay more !!

          35. Topher Smith says

            There will be court cases. It is not a done deal yet.

          36. AntiGOP says

            Did you watch the liar and chief just now…the big paper show on regulation cutting…

          37. Topher Smith says

            No. But Im sure I wil see it on the news later. More of a mess to clean up later. And more people to go to prison soon, let’s up.

          38. AntiGOP says

            Bet you didn’t know we have Beautiful Clean Coal…

            I’ll bet you will take one big deep breath now knowing that !!

            Yupper…it’s that dirty Green Energy that’s killing people and JOBS…

          39. AntiGOP says

            FCC Votes to Let Corporate Greed Run the Internet

        2. Retired Marine says

          Don’t play with the troll, it will only give you indigestion.

        3. Topher Smith says

          Waiting for those links.

        4. AntiGOP says

          (approving a deal that allowed 20% of our uranium to end up in Russian hands via a complicated scheme that resulted in a good portion of the profits to go to the Clinton Foundation),

          BULLSHIT

          1. justanagent says

            If it is BS then where did the uranium go and how were the proceeds divided?

          2. AntiGOP says

            You are repuking the puke…educate yourself…

            approving a deal that allowed 20% of our uranium to end up in Russian hands

            NO

            via a complicated scheme

            NO

            that resulted in a good portion of the profits to go to the Clinton Foundation

            NO

          3. justanagent says

            OK, so what did happen? Please enlighten me?

          4. AntiGOP says

            Thanks…I get tired of doing their homework for them !!

            Years back you had to goto a library or newspaper and other places to research the information to sort out fact from fiction…in short… you had an excuse for being a idiot.

            Now a days everything is at your finger tips and there is no excuse !!

            Now what we see are intellectually lazy gullible evangelical fucking idiots incapable of sorting out fact from fiction !!

            We’re not teach math and science and nature…no its…here…read a 2000++ year old bible and apply it to everything you do today !!

            The result now is…God will take care everything !!

            Then their only wonderment is why I label them IDIOTS !!

            They sure as hell aren’t Einsteins !!

          5. justanagent says

            I did take the time to read the article you referred me to in the Independent News. Since you cited it I presume you consider it a credible source. The article indicated that the state department was only one of numerous government agencies that approved the deal; that Hillary Clinton did not profit from it and likely had very little direct involvement . This sounds like an exoneration, but the article goes on to state that:
            “The Clinton Foundation did receive some money from at least one Uranium One investor, but it appears that other claims were overblown. That investor was Ian Telfer, who donated between $1.3 million and $5.6 million to the foundation during and after the review.
            But, the main Uranium One donor to the foundation, Frank Giustra, divested himself from his stake in the company three years before it was sold., and 18 months before Ms Clinton became secretary of State.”
            The Clintons might consider 1.3 million to 5.6 million a relatively small amount, but to most of us it’s a fortune. I remember Al Pacino’s famous line in the movie Serpico. “How much does it have to be before it’s wrong?”
            Separately, The New York Times reported last year that former President Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 to give a speech to a conference in Moscow.
            Finally:
            Let’s not forget a bombshell report from The Hill two weeks ago which revealed that as early as 2009, the FBI – led by Robert Mueller at the time, had a mole in the Russian uranium industry, and that the agency had evidence that “Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow” – a deal which would grant the Kremlin control over 20 percent of America’s uranium supply.
            The mole was forced to sign an iron-clad non-disclosure agreement (NDA) which threatened criminal penalties for revealing information, even to Congress. After a request was made by Reps Ron DeSantis (R-FL) and Chuck Grassley (R-IA) calling for the Justice department to invalidate the NDA, the gag order was lifted, and the FBI informant was authorized to speak with congress.

          6. Topher Smith says

            The point of that unsourced drivel?

          7. justanagent says

            You must not have noticed that I cited my sources one of which you directed me to. If you missed the point then you are being deliberately obtuse. You issued a challenge and I met it but “there is none so blind as he who will not see”. This discussion is over.

          8. Topher Smith says

            All you posted was uneducated gibberish. Did you even graduate from a public high school?

          9. justanagent says

            Resorting to insults and attempting to create a facade of intellectual superiority…the last bastion of a losing argument. I’m sure that anyone with a modicum of intelligence who took the time to read what I posted understood it clearly. You would do well to stop making a fool of yourself. Just be honest. Admit that you painted yourself into corner on this one and lost.

          10. Topher Smith says

            Ex0lain it or stfu, dropout. I have not lost. You cannot answer basic questions or explain what you have posted. Your level of education?

          11. justanagent says

            I rest my case. You are doing a better job denigrating yourself than I ever could.

          12. Topher Smith says

            Too funny. You made no case. You refuse to answer basic questions. Why is that? Ashamed? How did I denigrate myself?

          13. justanagent says

            This has become a ridiculous waste of my time. I’m through dignifying your comments with a response. They are silly, irrelevant, and insulting. I have better things to do. To anyone who may be following this discourse, I would recommend ignoring your posts.

          14. Topher Smith says

            Run away, uneducated snowflake..

      2. Andrew Molina says

        Your conjecture to place others on the defensive and avoid the evident truth serves to indicate that you are surviving on oshamo entitlements – now take your meds and return to the basement before the sun comes up

        1. Topher Smith says

          What evident truth? You are projecting. Hilarious coming from a poor dropout with multiple anonymous accounts…

          1. Retired Marine says

            You wouldn’t know a truth if it hit you on your diaper.

          2. Topher Smith says

            Okay, tard.

      3. Retired Marine says

        Being blind to truth, the good old demoncrat way, stay with it and one day they might let you in, no diapers though, even demoncrats have some semblance of a standard.

        1. Topher Smith says

          What truth, tard?

  21. SD of AZ says

    PolitiFact is part of the propaganda machine of Hillary and the liberals. The point being all associated follow the same routine. Lie, cheat, steal, obfuscate and if you get away with it, all is good. If called on it, lie cheat, steal and obfuscate even more. A proven tactic per Harry Reid and part of the dem wit liberal playbook. Needless to say, no one who has even one small brain cell believes anything these liars have to say, write, broadcast out to anyone. Only those with non functioning or missing brain cells will believe them about anything. Add the rinos to the dem wits too, they follow the same agenda as well. Big, yugh waste of time even reading this article though it confirmed completely what most deplorables already know. Need business Politifact? Better earn some credibility but you will not do that doubling down on a lie. We deplorables know better even though the left thinks we are all sheeple. Hum? Guess they did not get the memo from the last election when we put Trump in instead of their horrid Bozo replacement, Hillary, better known as Killary!

    1. Topher Smith says

      Proven? Okay. Go on…

      1. Retired Marine says

        “Only those with non functioning or missing brain cells will believe them about anything.”
        See, this is why your still in your momma’s basement, you don’t understand what you READ. SD of AZ was perfectly clear and correct. Nap time isn’t it? Looks like you need one.

        1. Topher Smith says

          Explain it then. Shall we exchane pics of where we live? Look up Belle Meade TN, tard.

  22. David in MA says

    Who questioned hag Hillary at the FBI, the guy we just learned was sent to some far off place?

  23. MILES E DRAKE says

    It is likely that the bribe-taking baby-killing bulldyke will escape any consequences for her incredible decades-long crime spree as long as a formal insurrection is not launched by the “resistance” that Nazi kapo Soros and stock swindler Steyer have funded and recruited in order to install her as puppet president of the one-party peoples republic that they intend to establish. If they let slip the revolution, however, American normals will need to wipe these people out in the way that the people of Indonesia fell upon their communists after an attempted revolution in 1965. It will then be appropriate to try and when found guilty to execute all of the criminals of the Obongo regime.

  24. Jmanjo says

    Hllary Clinton deserves to be in jail. Obama deserves to be exiled back to Kenya!

    1. Ed Shick says

      They both should be before a Firing Squad along with There leader , George Soros!

      1. Retired Marine says

        Hung yes, firing squad? No Hang them all in a row.

  25. downs1 says

    Truth is a rare animal in Washington DC! There are lies on both sides of the political aisle. But, Donald Trump has been proven correct on some pretty heavy issues, whereas Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and other Democrats as well as some on the Republican side of the aisle have not told the truth or have responded with half-truths on multiple occasions! The main stream media is rife with lies about Donald Trump! There is a foul odor emanating from the Washington swamp! There are consequences to lying, and this nation will pay a heavy price when these lies come back to haunt this once great nation! And they will!

  26. Tom xxx says

    Everything that comes out of the sluts mouth is a lie.

  27. deelight821 says

    SO F’ING WHAT!!!!!!!!

    The election was OVER last year!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!

    It was also found that MANY, MANY of those in government also used priovate servers and private email accounts during the time they were in VARIOUS JOBS.

    What the hell difference does it make????? If the FBI knew this, did they investigate to see if ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD ever saw any of those emails? And if they did investigate and no one in the ENTIRE WORLD ever saw the emails (except for FBI investigators) WTH difference does it make today?

    We have been hearing about this FOR WAY OVER A YEAR and WHO THE HELL CARES!!!!!!

    shut up ABOUT Clinton AND THE DAMN EMAILS!!!!!

  28. Elizabeth Lewis says

    Am I missing something If Politifact is fact checking Trumps statement that Hillary has lied to the FBI and there is no proof of that then his statement is a lie. He didn’t say he believed she lied he said she lied. He lies all the time He can’t help it He is sick

    1. Susan K. says

      You are missing quite a bit. That can happen when one is in serious denial.

  29. WhiteFalcon says

    All liberal news outlets today lie. That is the bottom line.

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      geo soreass owns them! You expected something different? 😁😂🤣

  30. murielmcgrann says

    yes honesty and moral conduct is absent from the DEMOCRATIC AGENDA…Its the Democratic Mafia…and the shadow government PLUS THE DNC…..and now the FBI…….Washington is a swamp…

  31. Steven David Cessna says

    She needs to swing

    1. gotabgood says

      Ever think that after 30- 40 years of investigations, by your one and only rightwing congress since 2010 and since 2014 from your FBI that ALL OF THEM FOUND HER INNOCENT!!!!!!
      You must be from Texas, I under stand they execute innocent people there.

      1. Retired Marine says

        You mean HER FBI, follow the news.

        1. gotabgood says

          James Comey – Wikipedia
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey
          James Brien Comey Jr. (born December 14, 1960) is an American lawyer who served as the seventh Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) from September 4, 2013 until May 9, 2017. Comey was a registered Republican for most of his life, but has recently described himself as unaffiliated.

  32. John D says

    PolitFact Is liberal garbage

  33. Troy100Jones says

    Any psychologist will tell you that people “rationalize”.
    To me that is a fancy word for Lying. Some are more
    clever at fooling themselves than they are at fooling others.
    If you talk to someone long enough they will eventually
    contradict themselves. This is a form of lying. (Both
    statements cannot be literally true.) So, what do we do with
    politicians. In my case, I try to imagine what kind of
    country I want to live in, and try to imagine how that fits
    with what the politician is saying. I want low indebtedness,
    to the extent possible, individual responsibility for their
    own welfare, low frequency of lying, cheating and stealing,
    support for the unfortunate only when those individuals
    have done their best to provide for themselves (with a little help
    from the capable), etc. Then I choose to vote for the person
    whom I think comes closest to governing the country so as to
    meet those goals.
    So far Trump is closer to my ideal than Hillary.

    1. gotabgood says

      How did you come to that rationale? Considering you are talking about the king of liars and king of contradictions.
      At a news conference, totally unnecessary, decided to display “his” products, a total lie from top to bottom.
      Another lie, also totally unnecessary, bragged about the size of crowd at his inauguration.
      Not only did he contradict himself several times over the wall, but it was suppose to moving on day one.
      He lied to the Carrier employees about the security of their jobs.
      He lied about our auto industry changing directions because he spoke to them. Most had plans of already changing.
      He is demolishing our national monuments over a dying industry.
      The Keystone he so loved has already sprung a leak.. 210,000 gallons of oil… try that in your cup of tea.
      He is a confessed sexual offender with male and female witnesses and he sided with Moore.
      The list of lies is very long, you interested in truth? check this out.

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?_r=0

      And if you don’t like NYT, then go to a lie, highlight it. copy it, paste it and google it, search it out for yourself..

      1. Retired Marine says

        Obviously she can think, give it a try sometime. Can’t wait for the insult that must follow.

        1. gotabgood says

          since you know it is coming… consider it done…. think of something really nasty..smile

          1. Retired Marine says

            LOL, well I can smile, but I make it a habit to not insult myself. Good comeback though.

  34. Troy100Jones says

    Is it possible to be “kind” to the unfortunate
    and “fair” to the fortunate. That’s a balancing
    act for any politician.

  35. jim jones says

    This was a wasted read, the bitch is a habitual liar and it is well known!

    1. gotabgood says

      YOUR congress proves you are the liar.
      YOUR FBI man proves you are the liar.

  36. Phil Esposito says

    You guys (writers, reporters) are really long winded. Is it that important to hear yourself talk? This article could have been summed up in 2 paragraphs.

  37. Susan K. says

    Nice to see these liberal “fact checkers” called out on their own misleading and downright false information. The details were necessary for pre-empting liberal objections.

    1. gotabgood says

      Give us a conservative fact checker…
      Or would that have to be an “alternative fact” checker?

  38. DAlnB41 says

    ” – Former FBI director Comey in congressional testimony said there was no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI. We rate Trump’s claim False.” – ”
    Comey should have said – based on the written investigative reports there is nothing I can swear to that would say Hillary lied!
    BECAUSE – – It is well known that Hillary was interviewed for the first (and only time in this case) time some months before the end of the FBI’s investigation and she was never placed under oath or sworn to honesty; A TOTALY UNBELIEVABLE FAILURE of any investigation by ANY law Enforcement agency (except possibly the old Keystone Cops movies who ran around in circles with funny looking hats and night-sticks!)
    Comey could not reasonable repeat what Hillary said because she was not under oath and no records were kept of the interviews!

  39. AKLady says

    Trump is both a blatant liar and a braggart. He suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder. Simply put, he knows right from wrong, but wrong only counts if you get caught. He also suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
    By the way, those two mental health problems are common in politicians.
    Trump’s case is just more severe than most.

  40. Michael Dennewitz says

    Politifuct…. another of geo soreasses groups!! 😆😀😁😂🤣😃😄

  41. viking nation says

    The democratic leaders has filled this country with hate with their lies… they have divided this country. Both sides Yes! them of the GOP also Them of the swamp.. Them that don’t want to have more in your pay checks each week they like it when you your paying more for health care. They never fix your roads your schools or the damns but keep raising the cost of food. These are the people of congress that we must vote out of office, All of them that has did nothing to improve our city. all of them in office for last 20 to 40 years.

  42. Michael Dennewitz says

    GOTTABEDUMBERTHANSHIT JUST NEVER GIVES UP, HUH? 😆😀😁😂🤣😃😄😅

  43. ernldo says

    Where are the indictments? Its time we start making these leftist dogs begin spending THEIR money on defenses.

  44. Michael Dennewitz says

    POLITIFUCT! Another of geo soreasses organizations. Would a SNIPER please take his sorry ass out! 😣🙁☹😢

  45. RCQ157@yahoo.com says

    The whole democreeps lied about everything including that they are not the KKK when in fact they are so to try to make themselves look better they decided to tear down their own party statues that they created during the civil war between the North and the South. They also want you to believe that they saved the slaves when in fact they still want to enslave the black people to work free on their plantations, but since that is not going to happen they want to save daca so the dumb Mexicans can work on their plantations for free and in turn for their services the democreeps will give them some marijuana and then when they want to get rid of them they get their hit squad to kill them just like they did to kill Seth Rich who was also a democreep.

  46. Jons_On says

    Hillary needs to go where she belongs: prison. All her supporters that said they would move if Trump were elected need to leave the country. We’ve been waiting over a year now for them to leave.

  47. Maria castro says

    We are in deep dodo…we better start praying, paying attention, the Communists are at your doorsteps. Pay attention and take action. This is my worst nightmare..a repeat of what I saw in Cuba

  48. Sol_of_Texas says

    I weep for my country when I contemplate that the vast majority of my fellow citizens have lost their minds (if they were not already indoctrinated or insane to begin with).

  49. Graywolf12 says

    If her lips are moving she is lying.

  50. jdbixii says

    What’s the point? Presumably, the issue of emails would not have been an issue if there had been no terrorist attack on Benghazi and people had not died and there had been no public interest in exactly what happened and why and how government handled the matter, officially, regardless of how sensitive, and thus classified, the facts surrounding the incident were. It is also logically presumable that no one without a clearance had access to the emails. The point is made and well taken that officials in government have the authority to make policy and have other people carry out that policy. The risks of effectuating policy rarely rise to the level of personal injury to the officials of government. When attrition is the sum total of the purpose for policy, the political consequences for officials become a matter of historical record. Giving some people the freedom to abuse freedom is an attrition policy and the democrat party is ALL about attrition policies and has been for more than half a century. They have done more to undermine the security of the citizens of the United States than most, purported, foreign countries holding an official designation of “hostiles.”

    1. gotabgood says

      Would that be the same reason that Lil’ bush “lost” 22 million emails.
      Him and Cheney went behind closed doors not under oath, no recording, no transcript to testify what happened to 3000 Americans which were NOT in a war zone?

  51. ImOffendedTreatMeSpecial says

    I’m not sure any but the most hard core leftists put any stock in anything Politifake “reports”.

  52. Karma says

    If clintons mouth was open, and sounds coming from it, she was lying..of course im sure the fbi was questioning her on the welfare of loretta lynches non-existant grandchildren so no big deal..i’ll be amazed if any of this gets past the investigation phase, to the more important phases, like charge, arrest, convict, incarcerate, you know, like it would be for us deplorables if we were as *honest* as hillary.

  53. bjmarsh says

    The facts o othat matter as far as Hillary Clinton is concerned are: First. She stated publicly and on the record that she did not have any classified material on her server; Second. The Inspector General investigated the contents of the derver that had been made available and found that there was classified compartmented material in the server. Conclusion Guilty as all hell, Pants on Fire award to Hillary!

  54. OldSilk says

    Sounds about right. Fake news. Liberals corrupting the justice system in our country so that they can say that the only fix is to hand it all over to the International Court of Justice where, the liberals will have favorites status there too. Just remember that is what the Clintons, 0webamas and their helpers in the system who did it, so that they could say they themselves needed to be stopped before they killed again as it were. It is their total modus operandi. To keep them from killing again, everybody else must be punished and stripped of liberty.

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