Professor: 20 Republican Electors Ready to Flip on Trump


Harvard law professor Larry Lessig said this week that 20 Republican members of the Electoral College have consulted him about the legal ramifications of switching their vote on December 19. Lessig has been offering free legal advice for any electors who want to vote against Donald Trump, and he says that there are more potential defectors than you might think.

“Obviously, whether an elector ultimately votes his or her conscience will depend in part upon whether there are enough doing the same. We now believe there are more than half the number needed to change the result seriously considering making that vote,” Lessig told Politico.

To throw the election results into utter chaos, 36 Republican electors would have to change their vote when they go to their respective state capitals on Monday. Even if all 20 of the electors who have spoken to Lessig decide to break their pledges, Trump will still be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. And so far, only one Republican elector has said that he will not vote for Trump.

But Lessig’s claim comes at a time when dozens of Democratic Party electors are planning a revolt of another kind. Forty members of the Electoral College (all but one being Democrat; the other being the aforementioned Republican – Chris Suprun of Texas) have signed a letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper asking for a classified briefing. The letter – written by Christine Pelosi, daughter of Nancy – says the electors cannot do their jobs properly without more information about Russia.

“We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States,” the letter says.

The campaign for an intelligence briefing has public support from the Hillary Clinton campaign, because…well, of course it does.

“Despite our protestations, this matter did not receive the attention it deserved by the media in the campaign,” Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said. “We now know that the CIA has determined Russia’s interference in our elections was for the purpose of electing Donald Trump. This should distress every American.”

But it’s unlikely that any of these machinations will make a significant difference. The Hill newspaper spoke to several Republican electors, and they aren’t even close to wavering:

“I’m voting how the people of Florida have told me to vote,” said Brian Ballard, a Florida elector who raised money for Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio during the GOP primary. “I don’t know anyone who isn’t. I appreciate people using First Amendment rights to reach out and try to convince me otherwise, but I’m obligated to support Trump because he won Florida.

“Also, I love the guy and want him to be president.”

Perfect answer!

  1. jgfsmf says


    1. Joshua Dubnick says

      No, actually this is exactly what the electoral college is tasked to do by the constitution. I voted for Hillary as did the largest plurality of Americans but I have no illusion that Hillary Clinton will be president. That’s not how the Electoral College works since the majority of electors are loyal Republicans. But what CAN happen is that the electors decide that Donald Trump is not qualified to be president and enough vote against him to send the election to the House of Representatives. If the Republican controlled house were to choose the president, it could easily be a more conventional but still conservative Republican. This would be unprecedented in our country but this whole election season has been unprecedented.

      1. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

        That is the worst, most unacceptable, thing to come down the pike. He is qualified, and is already at work for the American people.

        1. greenlantern1 says

          DIRTY TRICKS?
          Wasn’t Nixon the master of that?
          Doesn’t Trump come from THAT party?

          1. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            Trump is not a typical Republican and not beholding to lobbyists!
            He is not the one spreading fake news about the Russians!!!
            He is not the one arm-twisting the electors.
            He is not the one cooking up schemes behind closed doors like Clinton/Obama.
            WE THE PEOPLE are not going to take much more of this leftist coup attempts!

          2. greenlantern1 says

            Not a “typical” republican?
            He was the Republican nominee!
            Remember Nixon?
            FAKE “NEWS”?
            Did he not praise the NATIONAL ENQUIRER?
            Remember Carol Burnett?

      2. Cassandra Del vega blanco says

        That witch did not win the majority of anything. She also lost the popular vote. Her obongo and creepy bill need to hang for treason

      3. Silence A. Dogood says

        Now I see why you voted for Hillary, you have no idea what the Constitution actually says.
        The problem is not the Electoral College it is the Winner Take All legislation that individual states have passed over the years. Thinking they were helping their state make a difference when in actuality they stole the voting power of all who live in rural areas.

        The Constitution gave each Congressional District the power to cast one Electoral vote for the candidate of their choice and each of the State Senators received one Electoral vote for their State. Remember before the Congress hoodwink everyone and passed the 17th Amendment the Senators were chosen by the State’s Legislature and were actually accountable to their States.

        This was a fair and balanced system that allowed everyone’s vote to count with out giving control to large population areas.

      4. Katrina says

        Thanks. We get that, and that’s not the point. The point is the republican electors who would dare to not vote for Trump are traitors.

      5. Irene Pfannenstiel says

        The electoral college has already received its mandate on who to vote for from the voters. Trump won fair and square. I read where the electoral college members were threatened and some were bribed. If they don’t vote the way the voters mandated, they should be penalized and that vote thrown out. They took an oath and have an obligation to vote based on the mandate from the voters in each state. So, get over it.

      6. Ahmed F. Hosny says

        While I understand why the US have this system, Election Day should be Election day. Not a do-over more than a month after ELECTION DAY.

      7. jgfsmf says

        It doesn’t matter. Each state’s elector is supposed to vote per the people’s choice in that state, not another state and not per the total population. Name one state that Trump won where Hillary won the popular vote.

        1. Joshua Dubnick says

          “supposed to” is not the same as “required to”. Many states have laws against “faithless electors” but others do not. Even in states with such laws, I doubt whether the vote would be invalidated but the elector may be forced to pay a fine in his or her home state. And, no I don’t think there are any states where HIllary won the popular vote but Trump won the electoral vote. What did happen is that Trump did not win the majority in most if not all primaries–most Republican voters voted for a candidate other than Trump. Most Republican members of Congress supported Republican candidates other than Trump. It is possible but not likely that the electoral college will not give 270 votes for Trump. It’s possible but not likely that the House of Representatives will vote for a Republican other than Trump. It is nearly impossible that HIllary will be president. That’s a given. It’s highly likely that Trump will be president. I’m sure the risk of unrest will be considered by potential “faithless” electors but the fact is that under the constitution they can vote against Trump. That’s not treason, it’s the constitution.

      8. Vassiliki says

        I would day say that Trump is more qualified than Obama to make pertinent decisions. Trump has done that all his life and has had people work under him that he relies on for info, etc. Obama on the other hand may not have even finished college or law school because his college records are sealed and no one remembers him in law school. His only experience is 2 years as a 1 term senator and most of the time he was absent. What jobs did Obama hold that would give him any experience to even manage a Starbucks?! A community organizer, attending the Chicago bathhouse flaunting his skinny ass to the white boys? Give me a freaking break!

  2. lou says

    I didn’t know that there were that many idiots in America

    1. RuFus92 says

      Only those of the Democrats way of thinking. Best to remember this at the next election cycle. Take names and remember them well on election day.

    2. red110306 says

      If the Hildabeast, did in fact win a majority of the popular vote, that should be a tip-off as to how many idiots there are in this country!

      1. JC says

        Subtract all the illegal immigrants—dead people—and visa overstays—and you have Trump ahead in the popular vote—so Clinton and the democrats didn’t win sh.t and another point–just look at the down ballot winners in most of the states most are Republicans

        1. red110306 says

          I agree whole heartedly. But even subtracting those, there was still a LOT of idiots that voted for the Hildabeast!

          1. Bos95 says

            Still even with the illegals and counting votes 6 times for one vote she didn’t receive over 50% of the vote.

    3. Mary Muennig says

      It makes me feel like staying home more.

    4. JAKEJACOBY says

      lou, look in the mirror! Then you will know! Look at Hillary! Then you will know!

    5. Joan Ferrantesimplyme says

      Lou sad. oh so true… look how many voted for the corrupted one!! Need I say more?

  3. VoteForLiberty says

    If you think Black Lives Matter raised a lot of Hell, just wait and see what us old white guys do if these bastards overturn this election.

    1. RuFus92 says

      I would not want to be in the way of the wave that would occur.

    2. Mona Leitner says

      If you’re that angry about something that hasn’t even happened, think about how 2.7 million and more people already feel. Those people can raise hell too, except they will do it legally and without resorting to name calling or the veiled threat of violence.

      1. JC says

        you sound like a progressive democrat—are you?

        1. Ima Barber says

          You call them progressive democrats, I call them f#@k!ng idiots.

      2. Michael Dennewitz says

        BIOYA !

      3. Gale says

        lying, scum, corrupt liberals are the shit hole of america

      4. tlkk says

        No threat moron it is a promise. You lost get over it or get run over.

      5. gerryg says

        Since when do your people do anything legal and without name calling. I think never especially in the last 8 years.

      6. battue_you says

        Nothing veiled about the Trump rally rioters and blm types. Democrats who voted for Hillary are as evil as she and as morally bankrupt also.

      7. barbara says

        OMG, the poor souls are unable to accept the election. Grow up, we put up with your inexperienced and incompetent idiot. Also, democrats do nothing legally….just look at your candidate

    3. Vassiliki says

      And white women! I have had enough of liberalism being taught to my girls in school! The intolerance of heterosexuals is strangling! Anyone that offends a transgender, a queer, an asexual or whatever the f@!k they think they are are sent to the office. It doesn’t matter if the Trans offend the heterosexuals. It only goes one way! We are tired of this shit and it has to stop! My girls are tired of it, their friends are tired of it, the teachers are tired of it, the whole country is tired of it!

  4. Zigg Seagle says

    Just another terrible attempt by the Dems to steal the election from the American People!

    1. Luis Luna says

      Not going to happen

      1. Mikhail Kazachkov says

        Sure, and you will end up with your Manchurian (sorry, Siberian!) president…

        1. John Conner says

          You mean the guy who won.

          1. SouthernPatriot says

            Quid Pro Quo. Hillary gives away our uranium supply and a few months later, the Russians donate hundreds of millions to the Clinton Fraud Foundation.

          2. Titraveler says

            How true that is , but the majority of America has no idea that took place because they only listen to the major networks which will never say anything about that and do not research what the Clinton’s do to benefit themselves. They are about as dishonest as anyone can imagine and use their political influence to get what they want.

          3. OldHighlandGuyOne says

            It is called the Clinton Crime Syndicate (CCS) in Arkansas.

          4. ward says

            They are #1 treason enemies against U.S. Patriotic Citizens & destroy our U.S. Constitutional Freedom, Rights & Liberty … ! They do not deserve the U.S.A. … !

          5. ABO says

            Said Clinton Crime Syndicate makes the Bonannos, Lucheses, Genoveses, Colombos and Gambinos look like rank amateurs.

          6. pineapple says

            In case you thought there might be some bias in news reporting….

            How’s this for having the “inside track”?


            ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

            CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

            ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney

            ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

            ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

            CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
            And now you know why it is no surprise the media is in Obama’s pocket.
            Ya think there might be a little bias in the news ???
            It also explains the cover up of Benghazi………

          7. ward says

            AND soros bank rolled the whole damned conspiracy for a wannabe dictatorship !

          8. PatriotGal says

            Seems incestous to me…at the least, conflict of interest.
            How about SOH Ryan’s wife – Dem lobbyist…

          9. Seldena says

            There you go!! ALL TRUE!

          10. Mathew Molk says

            You see the Clinton Broadcasting System (CBS) had another phony poll that says 46 percent of the country thinks President Trump will be a worse president then his Royal Exalted Boma? (Even though President Trump, working with his VP saved more jobs BEFORE he even tool office the his Royal Exalted Boma did in 8 years.

            Isn’t CBS one of the outfits that had irrefutable information form their pollsters that the cackling witch had the election in the bag.

          11. Dolores Wieland says

            Our younger generations (2) can barely read. What do you expect?

          12. PatriotGal says

            I thought it was reverse…first the donations. According to Business Insider,
            “A new scandal hit Hillary Clinton on Thursday thanks to an exhaustive report from Mike McIntire and Jo Becker at The New York Times.
            The story involves a Canadian company called Uranium One, a Russian investor, the State Department, and The Clinton Foundation.
            “As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation,” The Times reports.
            Here’s the high-level summary. There are more details below.
            • Canadian company Uranium One owned uranium mines in the US and Kazakhstan.
            • Uranium One’s mines account for 20% of the uranium mined in the US. Uranium is used for nuclear weapons, and it’s considered a strategic asset to the US.
            • Russia’s state-owned atomic agency, Rosatom, bought a 17% stake in Uranium One in June 2009.
            • The Russian atomic agency decided it wanted to own 51% of Uranium One in June 2010. To take a majority stake in Uranium One, it needed approval from a special committee that included the State Department, which Hillary Clinton led at the time.
            • Investors in Uranium One gave money to the Clinton Foundation starting in 2005 and through 2011. On June 29, 2010, Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 to speak in Russia by an investment bank with ties to Russia’s government that had a buy rating on Uranium One’s stock.
            • In January 2013, despite assurances to the contrary, a subsidiary of Rosatom took over 100% of the company and delisted it from the Toronto Stock Exchange.
            • Clinton was required to disclose all of her foundation’s contributors before she became secretary of state, but the Clintons did not disclose millions of dollars donated by the chairman of Uranium One while the review of the deal was ongoing.
            “Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million,” The Times reports. “Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.”

          13. ABO says

            Well done PatriotGal and entirely accurate.

        2. ThePatriotMuckraker says


          1. JRT12 says

            LOL!!! the Ignorant barry/CrooKilary IDIOTS fall for their LIES and CRAP!!!

          2. Sandy0 says

            Did you talk to Putin-Trump re CIA lately? Dissing the Truth doesn’t make it go Away.

          3. Sickofit says

            Do you need to run off to your safe place??

          4. Lajos Markos says

            what comment your trying too say its stupid the CIA works for Obama DUH

          5. JRT12 says

            U r proving Exactly what I said about you Ignorant DEMORATS! lol! The CIA is in the Dems pocket, ole barrys administration, along with Lyin Benghazi CrooKilary, have Corrupted their adm!! Russia had NOTHING to do with the Leaks!!! DUH!!!

          6. ABO says

            No one is dissing the truth except you, Sandy the Zero.

          7. oaking says

            Be sure to ground it to prevent EMP damage!

          8. OldHighlandGuyOne says

            Whoa, I never thought of that! Thank You.
            Now where is my hat and some cheap chinese wire ………

        3. Chris Robinette says

          Hillary did more for Russia than Trump ever did. Who wants the butch of Benghazi who lies, cheats, steals, and murders Americans? Do you?

          1. albaby2 says

            It was Hillary that sold 20% of our uranium supplys to Russia

          2. Mike with the Silver Star says

            It was closer to 25%

          3. pineapple says

            Then Russia gave Bill Clinton $500,000 for making a speech.

          4. david b cordick says

            don’t forget that after she made the deal for russias benefit, a couple of weeks later that Russia donated two million dollars to her campaign fund.

          5. pineapple says

            What a coincidence!

          6. John Somers says

            That speech was $625,000.00

          7. 3ronald1 says

            Yeah – she should have gone to jail for that, too. Traitor!

          8. raledbetter says

            Right Albaby2-then ask yourself why would Putin put the screws to Hilary and the Dimwitocrats
            Also,Putin would have an easier time with Hilary as Pres than Trump
            Hilary is so f***ked up Putin would dominate her

          9. albaby2 says

            He didn’t put the screws to Hillary. The American voters in flyover country did. Her lieing mouth and attitude toward the common man sealed her fate.

          10. Syl Oliver says

            So agree

          11. 3ronald1 says

            No intelligent person does!

          12. ward says

            Trump is using Reagan Type Diplomacy with Russia but not defending them.. ! The democrat libtards & the rino traitors are using bo, hilary suck ass tactics of Treason that helps to create a N.W.O. tyranny dictatorship by the bo marxists !

          13. Sandy0 says

            Name-calling is adolescent and loses you your credibility. You just lost Yours.

            YOU LOSE.

          14. JMICHAEL270 says

            Go Suck An Egg OSandy (reminds me of OBamy)

          15. ward says

            sandy with the “0” must stand for zero brains to support bo & his cronies like hilary in a conspiracy team of wannabe dictators over the U.S.A. with a NWO tyranny of other asinine people that do not see their own created enslavement under bo’s all lying, deceitful, criminal, marxist, muslim administration conspiracy from hell …. !

          16. Sickofit says

            Actually YOU LOSE!! Trump beat your lying witch!!

          17. Dennis says

            🙂 LMAO……how sweet it is too!!!

          18. ABO says

            You have never had any credibility to begin with. You simply spin and twist everything to fit your pathetic liberal agenda, so I think we all know who the loser is here.

          19. Dennis says

            Being libtarded is adolescent! But not as much as your piffling remarks….

          20. D RUTSCHMAN says

            Your candidate had no credibility. Thus she lost the election.

          21. Lajos Markos says

            you spoke about you Hillary you got that all right and a SOB from hell

          22. Ron says

            Hold on Sandy. Remember all the name calling the Democrats did? Or, is that okay because they are demon-crats?

          23. ward says

            BUT that was ”credibility” stench of libtard twisted definitions in dem socialism … !

          24. patriotgirl1 says

            Too bad he’s CORRECT.

          25. ward says

            You being a libtard dem is not name calling but describes the fact of your type of ignorance about U.S. Constitutional Freedom & Rights … ! Your credibility is the one with all the stench of shit by admitting your asinine support for hilary & bo the #1 and #2 enemies against U.S. Patriotic Citizens that protect the Constitution & National Security that the dem commie, muslim wannabe dictators are trying to destroy …. ! Pull your head out & see the factual truth before you demine facts .. !

          26. PatriotGal says

            She was the one who gave Putin a red “RESSET”(sic) button (spelled exactly like that) to reset the USA – Russia relations.

          27. Conservative says

            She constantly did and said stupid things which showed us what a complete idiot she is. Because she believes herself so clever and adorable she thinks everyone else feels the same. I guess all those ‘suck-up’ she surrounds herself with give her the approval for dumb stuff . Hey, they like that paycheck and no joke is too stupid to endorse for that paycheck.

          28. ward says

            The facts about bo & hilary began with Benghazi where all this cover up emails began to keep both from being nailed for high treason murder save their own ass !

          29. Sandy0 says

            Why not keep up with the latest news? Gowdy and the witch hunting have released a statement that Hillary etc were CLEARED BY GOP of attacks they made. Your own Republican hunters admitted at the start of their repeated attacks on Candidate Clinton THAT IT WAS ALL TO KILL VOTES FOR HER.

            Americans know that it’s hard on our psyches to ditch our previous mindsets in the face of Facts, but that it is necessary.

          30. Chris Robinette says

            Fake news flash, Sandy0

          31. mac12sam12 says

            Hillary had no message, she killed her own votes. The worst candidate put out there by the democrats ever. The old bag can hit the bingo halls. :0)

          32. ward says

            Hell they can’t have bingo halls in prison even if she doesn’t get burned … !

          33. Seldena says

            Oh no she was not cleared of anything. I watch all this. They LIED about the video and Lied to the American people. Quit getting your news from CNN==THEY LIE

          34. Dolores Wieland says

            You say she was NOT cleared of all the crimes? Now you’re against Clinton? You were dumping on Trump. Which is it??

          35. ward says

            She is a libtard bo dupe & does not know shit about what she posts or believes !

          36. Dolores Wieland says

            Can’t stand wishy-washy yakkers…Thanks for the heads up…

          37. Ron says

            Have you heard obama yesterday and today. Everything out of his mouth is a lie. Remember what he said about Benghazi? How a video caused the deaths of the Americans in Benghazi. All of that was a lie and they knew it.

          38. Chris Robinette says

            Hillary has NOT been cleared of anything. You keep up with the news and take off your blinders.

          39. ward says

            You are finally on target to admit hilary is a witch and condemned her self for the burn ! Too bad your head is still uo & locked in a crash position of libtard stench !

          40. Mikhail Kazachkov says

            OK, people. For your information: I am the last political prisoner released in the Soviet Union after 15 years in the GULAG, and know infinitely more than most of you about Russia, KGB and Putin. You wanted to give a finger to the establishment, and poked out your eye. Happens — first time we know of was in Athens when they killed Socrates. Democracy has its downsides…

            Trump is guilty of high treason. When he visited Moscow he was offered a honeypot and took the bait. Every notable Westerner coming to Russia has been offered a gorgeous prostitute — KGB standard operating procedure. Now Putin has a tape of Trump’s sexapades in Moscow and is blackmailing him. So, he is a Siberian candidate as I wrote.

            I joined this discuss by pure accident. From your responses I see the crowd here is next to insane. I am out of this discuss, so do not bother to respond. Live with the consequences of your vote.


          41. Dolores Wieland says

            You are funny with your tales..but not funny enough to keep you on this site…

          42. Lajos Markos says

            that a great tale funny need more one more your feel of crap

          43. patriotgirl1 says

            Americans that voted for Trump could care less……..WE CARE MORE ABOUT THE WELFARE OF OUR COUNTRY. America is desperate for someone to lead us out of a nightmare we’ve had to endure for 8 years. We’re still living with the consequences of the left wing vote 8 years ago.

          44. Chris Robinette says

            Obama is offering up America to become a caliphate of islam. There is an example of treason.

          45. ward says

            You are still commie indoctrinated & post like a libtard marxist spy for bo … ! End of POOOOST and your asinine B.S. of knowing it all to dupe others ! UP YOURS !

        4. Marianna Mansfeldova says

          Mikchail Kazachkov is troll with only two comments and he think when he give yourself Russian name and call Putin Manchurian president….at first Putin is pure Russian and Christian. And secondly, he just said about Trump that he is way smarter than Hillary and does is true. And because he is very smart man, he will prefer Hillary as president because he will ab always smarter than this very stupid money and power hungry woman. In my wildest dream I will never say nothing nice about Putin, because I escaped from Soviet Bloc, but today I think is time to start collaborating with Russians against the biggest terror in the world….and one message for Michail ….job tvoju mat

          1. Mathew Molk says

            Not sure about how smart Putin is…He did saw the cackling witch belongs running a stove and not a country. I don’t think she could run a stove. Not even a Kenner easy bake oven like my sister had back in ’62.

            Hey. Merry Christmas to everybody and Happy Hanukkah to my Jewish friends.

        5. Goodforall says

          We already have one in the WH!

        6. ward says

          The penalty for turn coat rinos by the Patriotic U.S. Citizens will be worse than depicted in Manchurian candidate fiction ! “Screw with the bull & get the horns” !

        7. Seldena says

          Wrong candidate-Hillary allowing MORE jobs to leave,in with Russia for sure, lied about email server, pay-to-play scheme while Sec. of State, lied to the FBI, lied to the American people, had 33,000 emails burned, and so much more. She was all in for a New World Order. SHE would have been the REAL MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!!

      2. PERS ponzi 1st repsonders says

        why not ?
        law dont apply to clintons ?

        the high cost of corruption is always funded by the taxpayer.



        corruption requires the power of law enforcement agencies and courts in order to maintain a cover up.
        .the govt insiders never go without.

        $wampland D.C.
        dont trust the main $tream news on the tell-lie-vision.

        drain the $wamp .

        slowly removing only a tiny fraction of the Washington dc cancer

        does not result in a cure.




        obama …..
        hoping new FBI cover up will make all the crimes go away.

        the Mormon church does not want their tax exempt connection to Clinton exposed.

        this requires harry reid to manufacture a taxpayer funded FBI headed cover up.


        JUST SAY NO !

        time to clean house
        .the FBI is only protecting it’s own butt.
        another taxpayer funded cover up underway.

        the corrupt FBI agents are tied to harry reid.
        harry reid trying to save his own butt
        by bringing in handpicked FBI agents with the election of corrupt catherine cortez masto to fill dirty harry senate seat .

        Catherine .. who’s husband is corrupt FBI agent masto .
        along with FBI — Laura A. Bucheit
        who harry reid appointed and has been grooming for years.
        this country does not need any more taxpayer funded criminals in law enforcement.


        follow the money.


        jason chaffettz … mormon

        harry reid ….mormon

        how deep is the mormon clinton land grab-rabbit hole going to go ??


        Clinton dealing in uranium acquired in BLM land grabs ?

        a BLM group which includes harry reid and clinton have come up with a very complex scam.

        it uses the fbi and nevada city council and county commissioners
        racketeer together in order to take land from people to sell to foreign
        investors by making it look like the ranch owners have broken the law
        when they have not.
        reid has a land grab partner named richard bryan who was a Nevada
        senator. richard bryan ran a lawfirm in nevada called lionel sawyer
        richard bryan sold bundy’s land to the chinese.
        bryan took millions of dollars from Chinese solar clients who
        secretly purchased bundy’s land before the land grab attempt.
        reid and bryan sold the land because the Chinese needed it for minerals to make solar panels .
        BUT….the land grab backfired .. it did not go as reid and bryan planned.
        and bryan had local county commissioners de-value bundy’s land at only
        $3.4 million when bundy ranch is worth around $50 million .

        so…… through reid orchestrated federal mumbo jumbo and his internal govt agency trickery.
        reid tried to take the bundy land after reid and bryan pocketed the Chinese

        but blm was not abe to evict bundy…….


        because reid and bryan were unable to deliver on the bundy land sold to chinese.
        filed bankruptcy at lionel sawyer collins to prevent having to give the
        chinese back their millions in bundy land purchase money….
        cover up .
        bryan allowed the Lionel sawyer Collins law firm to file for bankruptcy
        and ruchard bryan relocated quietly to another lawfirm
        the oregon land grab will reveal reid and bryan handle mineral deals
        for hilary clinton’s daughter’s husband……………
        chelsea’s husband who has Russian clients who deal in buying BLM acquired land plentiful in earth minerals.

        BLM’s bundy ranch land grab
        was attempted because reid and senator richard bryan failed to acquire bundy land for chinese solar investors .
        after richard bryan’s law firm went bankrupt because they could not pay
        back the retainer to the Chinese solar clients who did not get bundy land .
        the bundy land grab scam organized by reid and his mormons
        has not even been fully exposed yet.


        selling the presidential election on a grand scale.
        while making it appear as though nevada is hosting the democrat and republican conventions or debates
        in reality simply selling/rigging the election out the back door. to highest bidders
        would harry reid be part of a scam. ?
        harry reid could run this out of a payday loan business’ in nevada to launder money.
        a hard to trace bribe scam,
        rawle’s pay day loan business
        is where harry reid laundered his previous million dollar bribe through.
        who would ever find out ?

        emails surface exposing reid accepting bribes.
        reid bribe was initially $2 million dollars.
        Swallow wanted $2 million to enlist Harry Reid’s help to block online gaming investigation .
        .copies of emails show Swallow worked to arrange meetings between Johnson and top Utah officeholders.
        Then, with the FTC investigation continuing, Johnson said Swallow
        suggested Harry Reid could make all the problems with regulators go away — for a
        “I said, ‘OK, what do I need to do?’
        He’s like,………. ‘OK, it costs money,’
        ” Johnson said, Swallow was adamant he make a deal.
        “he told me, he has a connection with Harry Reid,’ ” Johnson said.
        He said Swallow wanted $2 million to enlist Reid’s help.
        But he did not have the money, Johnson
        said, so they eventually agreed on $300,000 upfront and $300,000 later.
        Swallow put Johnson in contact with Rawle, whose company has
        operations in Nevada. Rawle had given generously to Swallow’s failed
        congressional bids and hired Swallow as Check City’s lobbyist and
        in-house legal counsel, a position Swallow held until he became chief
        deputy attorney general in December 2009.
        Rawle, died of cancer before federal investigators could question him
        On Sept. 29, 2010, Swallow sent an email to Johnson with the subject line “Mtg. with Harry Reid’s .”
        ” Traveling to LV tomorrow and will be able to meet with Reid’s contact,
        who he has a very good relationship with. He needs a
        brief narrative of what is going on and what you want to happen….I don’t know the cost, but it probably won’t be cheap.”…

        eric holder blocked the american people from learning harry reid took a million bribe.FBI
        agents working alongside Utah state prosecutors in a wide-ranging
        bribery corruption investigation have uncovered wrongdoing by two
        of the U.S. Senate’s most prominent Mormon figures — Majority Leader
        Harry Reid and rising Republican Sen. Mike Lee — but Eric Holder and the Justice
        Department has thwarted their bid to launch a full federal

        The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States,
        shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for,
        Conviction of,
        or other high Crimes
        Article II, Section 4
        who got the biggest kickback ?
        Harry Reid personally bypassed DHS terrorism laws on behalf of son’s casino project
        Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid took an intense interest in
        pushing through visas for dozens of shady Asian investors for a Las
        Vegas casino represented by his son, Rory Reid, documents and reports
        The investors, who were flagged under terrorists guidelines for “suspicious financial
        activity,” had initially been denied visas by the Department of Homeland
        Security in a process that does not allow for appeals.
        In a Dec. 5, 2012 email to officials at the Department of Homeland
        Security obtained by The Washington Times, U.S. Citizenship and
        Immigration Services (USCIS) Legislative Affairs official Miguel
        Rodriguez wrote, “This one is going to be a major headache for us
        all because Sen. Reid’s office/staff is pushing hard and I just had a
        long yelling match on the phone.”
        The investors were renovating the SLS Hotel — which was
        once the Sahara. SLS is represented by Sen. Reid’s son, Rory Reid, who
        at the law firm Lionel, Sawyer & Collins. In their 2012 “Year in
        Review,” the Nevada firm hyped “Lionel Sawyer & Collins” benefits
        from working with Harry Reid .
        “Rory Reid’s previous experience as chairman of the Clark County
        Commission is put to good use assisting with general legal advice for
        the law firm and helps circumvent the maze of regulations
        required to access economic incentives offered on the state and local
        levels,” the article, called “Redeveloping a Classic Strip Property,” continued.
        questioned on Sen. Reid’s intervention on behalf of SLS investors, Sen.
        Reid spokeswoman Kristen Orthman told Ralston Reports —
        where Rory’s connection was first reported — that “The SLS project
        is none of your business”
        “That is the calculus in Sen. Reid’s support of the project,” Orthman continued.
        “We have a long-standing office policy that strictly bars any member of
        the staff’s family or the Senator’s family from lobbying our office on
        behalf of their clients. That policy applies in this case.”
        Initial attempts by Sen. Reid’s office to expedite the visa requests
        were denied on Dec. 17, 2012, prompting the majority leader to
        personally call Obama who contacted USCIS Director Alejandro Mayorkas.
        “Within a few short weeks of Mr. Reid’s personal DHS intervention, the
        decision not to issue the visas was reversed, allowing the hotel to
        major funding from JP Morgan Chase,” the Times reports.Sen. Reid “has
        supported Lionel Sawyer & Collins a spokeswoman for the senator told
        the media

        October , 2010
        Reid terrorist ties cover up
        “An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
        repeatedly lied to federal immigration and FBI agents and submitted
        false federal documents to the Department of Homeland Security to cover
        up her illegal seven-year marriage to a Lebanese national who was the
        subject of an Oklahoma City Joint Terror Task Force investigation.”
        what is odd is that no criminal terrorist charges are brought against
        rory for his SLS clients or the long history of the lionel sawyer
        collins lawfirm facing the same terrorist charges.

        for some convenient reason LAST MONTH the law firm was allowed to skate
        around the feds and quietly just vanish out of sight and relocate to
        while harry reid (taxpayers stuck funding it ) handled the DHS terrorist
        scandal fall out & cover up here in nevada.
        October , 2010
        Reid terrorist ties cover up
        “An aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
        repeatedly lied to federal immigration and FBI agents and submitted
        false federal documents to the Department of Homeland Security to cover
        up her illegal seven-year marriage to a Lebanese national who was the
        subject of an Oklahoma City Joint Terror Task Force investigation.”


        the public will learn harry reid used the FBI to block investigations
        into his well organized multi billion dollar corruption schemes which
        took place within the country known as deseret.
        harry reid used his
        ties to the blm as well as his long time friend and previous nevada
        senator richard bryan who both have now gone into the business of
        selling land they do not own to Chinese corporations who need raw
        materials to build solar and electric car batteries.
        harry reid and richard bryan don’t realize the public is not as dumb as they think.
        and the tax exempt corporation known as the mormons who operate the legal system within deseret will also be exposed .
        your govt reminds you……..when you see something say something……………………………

        1. Monica says

          The law have to be for every body the same for the crime who the person did; or commit; They have to leave alone to the new President to do his job, no any more bread feeding.enough if enough; Trump win with the helped of the people of USA.

      3. 3ronald1 says

        I’m praying it does not!..At this time in our history, we NEED Trump.

        1. Sandy0 says

          ?? we Need Trump? How’s that again??? and produce the WHY, please?

          1. 3ronald1 says

            We need law and order – he will bring it.
            We need Common Core gone – it will be gone.
            We need our military strengthened – he will do it.
            We need manufacturing jobs – he can do it.
            Patriotism and love of country back in schools.
            Respect for authority will return.
            So many more.
            Hillary lied every time she moved her lips. She would have destroyed us.
            …So many more. We’ve had 8 years of a downhill spiral. Time to climb out of the hole.

          2. Seldena says

            Are you so blind? You must be one of those Low IQ Liberals…

          3. ABO says

            Apparently Seldena, You could benefit greatly from a remedial course in Reading Comprehension.

          4. Dennis says

            Seldena is either posting while intoxicated or has no IQ at all!

          5. AKLady says

            No,she has a greater amount of legal knowledge than you do.

          6. OopsyDaisy3 says

            There you are again AK?ady! At it again. Only you would be so illiterate
            as to side with Seldena.

          7. Miyako says

            Where..? In Hollywood”! Bolshevik Love Land’! Commie Lovers.

          8. JJ says

            Oh Lord, here you are again!

          9. GODBlessRealAmerica says
          10. AKLady says

            Oh Lord, here you are again, with more childish follery.
            You really should go back to school and learn how to express yourself.
            Stealing other’s artwork just does not hack it.
            Besides you have run this one into the ground.
            Boring, boring, boring.

          11. Mr Rollo says

            Beautiful truthful portrayal of the princess of communism.

          12. Herculesx Blade says

            she’s A GREAT Candidate for Vlad The Impaler,Not Crap as usual coming out her mouth but a Sharpened 4” Round Pointed Stake 10 foot long ! Let’s See her after she gives back 60 billion from the “ Clerical error in the State Department” and billy the rapist ,just not enough space for his misdeeds here ,then theres mr. god obama and his depressed fat old lady for doing nothing but trouble in almost 8 years ,except allowing 100k of terrorists in and OH Except the Crowning or I should say Impaling Achievement Spends at least 10 Trillion Dollars of Taxpayer Money. Well, Put the 4 of them round the Washington Monument Impaled ,As a Lesson and Warning to all those who think they can F**k the American People ! And Please President Trump Sign a Limit on House and Senate Terms ,Enough of these 8 Term Vacations and then Retire on 20k a month plus benefits ! Remember It’s We The People !

          13. albaby2 says

            The pensions are calculated just like any private pensions. Years of service, highest grade attained etc. Look it up.

          14. Herculesx Blade says

            Well,well,must be a family member Sitting???? How about Healthcare For Life? Pension After 1 term and not $100.00 a Month.A friend of mines Father was a 6 termer in the House ,He Died about 14 years ago.His Son and I rented a house in College.His Father was raking in $65K a Year from Uncle Sam after retiring and going into the Private Sector and on the Boards of about 2 or 3 Big Boys and a few up and comers, Big Today.And this isn’t7 even a Crumb of why I know ,but can’t blab right!

          15. albaby2 says

            Again, the pensions are based on years of service etc. Try and get informed before you start banging on the ketboard. And no, I don’t have and never have had a “sitting member”

          16. Gerry Costa says

            Great post. This could apply to the whole demoTRASH party and the rinos. Maybe we need to include all the libtards also.

          17. albaby2 says

            It’s not how much knowledge she has. It’s how she applies it. Lying is not an application of knowledge

          18. PatriotGal says

            Is that why KILLary lost her law license? She never could live by the “rules” – even the education requirement rules. Leave it to you to always ignore the facts, AK.

          19. AKLady says

            Name calling is so very childish.
            Hillary dif not “lose” her license. She placed it on inactive status.
            She hac return to the practice of law at any time by simply taking the required CEU for the yrar. The same applies for Obama and Michelle.

          20. AKLady says

            What do you gain by lying?
            The data on her law license us published by the Bar Assic.
            Hillary placed her license into inactive status, which saves money.
            She can activate her license at any time.

          21. TPM says

            YES, she’s been arrested 12 times.

          22. AKLady says

            Who has?

          23. Mark Lahti says

            Please people, use some common sense. It is quite obvious that Seldena was responding to SandO and not 3ronald1’s posts. You’re welcome Seldena.

          24. JJ says


          25. AKLady says

            3ronald1’s posts document his ignoranceof the Constitution.

          26. ABO says

            This from a brainless, ignorant liberal lemming who constantly makes up ridiculous stories in an attempt to impress those who know better.

          27. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          28. livefreeordiehard says

            And you post yours every time you respond. Go away.

          29. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          30. Dolores Wieland says

            Apparently you are blind or you are on the freebie train that will soon quit running.

          31. AKLady says

            Apparently you failed Civics an you are on permanent disability do to mental dysfunction.

          32. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Ru ignorant or just plain Liberal? Lol

          33. livefreeordiehard says

            You don’t think there’s an overlap there? If you’re one, you’re probably the other!

          34. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Exactly that’s the meaning they both go hand in hand…you see liberalism is a disease caused internally by their hate, racism, ignorance, low energy, thuggism and ignorance…..Liberalism is hate!


          35. JJ says

            It really and truly is!

          36. AKLady says

            Thomas Sowell is an American economist, social theorist, political philosopher, and author. He is currently Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. Sowell was born in North Carolina, but grew up in Harlem, New York.

            Born: June 30, 1930 (age 86), Gastonia, NC

            Influenced by: Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, KARL MARX …

            Influenced: Walter E. Williams, Milton Friedman, Steven Pinker
            Education: Stuyvesant High School, Howard University, University of Chicago, Columbia University, Harvard University

          37. AKLady says

            Get some new material.
            Boring, boring, boring.
            Childish as it comes.

          38. Dolores Wieland says

            hahahahah! The spitting image of the other…

          39. Dolores Wieland says

            Thank you. Excellent.

          40. Veteran says

            I see you looked up Dr. Sowell but did you have to copy and paste your reply right from his bio. We know that because your sentences are only 4 words long!

          41. AKLady says

            Apparently you failed Civics and you are on permanent disability do to mental dysfunction.

          42. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Ru ignorant or plain Liberal? Apparently you are in a mental crisis TRUMP WON!!!! Now go cry, whine, protest or leave the Country moron!!!!

            You are one deeply disturbed Liberal….we got your number Liars!! A song for you!!!


          43. AKLady says

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President — the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.
            Start with the Electoral College.


          44. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            We the American People elected PRESIDENT Donald J Trump!!!!

            We the People rejected Crooked evil lying Hillary and Voted for TRUMP!

            We the people voted and we won you lost GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO Won!!!

            Electoral college has confirmed and appointed President Trump!!!!


          45. AKLady says

            American ignorance on display foe the world.
            If you voted, you obviously have no idea as to who or what you voted for.

            Suggest you refer to Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.
            From there, go to the Twelfth Amendment. Fourteenth Amendment, Fifteenth Amendment, Twentieth Amendment, Twenty-Second Amendment, Twenty-Third Amendment, Twenty-Fourth Amendment , Twenty-Fifth Amendment and Twenty-Sixth Amendment.

            When you finish that bit of self-education, you can move on to the United States Code. Title Three “The President.”

          46. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Damn ru ignorant or Liberal? Stupid is is stupid says…..

            Can you say PRESIDENT Donald J Trump because hes the President 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so get educated you liberal Democrackhead moron!!!! When you stop posting nonsense you can get a Real America education .

          47. AKLady says

            We the People do not elect a President.
            We the People have never elected a President.
            We the People cannot elect President —
            the Constitution does not permit us to do so.

            Suggest you learn how your government actually functions.
            Start with the Electoral College.

            The Electral College votes tomarrow.

          48. pinstripes7 says

            After they vote Trump in, will you then, finally accept defeat, or are you going to blame it on everything and anyone but Hillary?

          49. AKLady says

            Defeat? Blame?
            What aplication do those questions have in a discussion of law and fact?

            These Presidents did not have the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison and George W. Bush

          50. pinstripes7 says

            I fail to see your point. So Trump won the same way those four presidents won, fair and square.

          51. AKLady says

            The point is the vote you cast on Nov. 8 is symbolic.
            You do not elect a president.

          52. Dolores Wieland says

            Yuk! Now that IS vile!

          53. ABO says

            Well of course it is Delores, it’s Hillary!

          54. Dolores Wieland says

            Perfect song GODBlessRealAmerica!!!!

          55. AKLady says

            You are on permanent disability do to mental dysfunction, no doubt left.

          56. AKLady says

            You are on permanent disability do to mental dysfunction, no doubt left

          57. GODBlessRealAmerica says
          58. Veteran says

            What’s the difference?

          59. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            No difference its the same different words….lol

          60. ABO says

            (c: All of the above.

          61. Dolores Wieland says

            Are you back again, Troll????

          62. Mark Lahti says

            I’m so glad I have her blocked. It is fun to read the replies without her actually drivel. Makes for interesting reading.

          63. Mary Brumley says

            Me too!

          64. ABO says

            I blocked her almost a year ago Mark and somehow she’s back!

          65. Miyako says

            Dolores……Just Think About All The College Educated Idiots On TV..Who Laughed When Trump Said He Would Run For President. And How They Self Indulged About His Comments And Mistakes In Politics. They Are Crying In Their ‘Quiche’ For Their Men…And Starbucks Latte… In Hollywood For Their ‘Butch ” Women’! GOD Is Great..! Trump Is The Man America Needed To Silence The Failed Obama Period In America’s History. GO TRUMP”! Hillary The “witch” Is Dead”!

          66. Dolores Wieland says

            Miyako…….That college education did no good for those liberals. What a waste of mommy/daddy and taxpayer funds…We’ve raised nothing but crybaby idiots who have everything served them on a platter. They know no responsibilities. I can see them kowtowing in the event we have a war with the muzzis……

          67. george briar says

            Go away and get back on your meds.

          68. JJ says

            Would benefit from shock treatment!

          69. AKLady says

            Go away, get an education.
            Ignorance like your is detroying America.

          70. AKLady says

            Go way, get an education.
            Ignorance like yours is detroying America.

          71. Dolores Wieland says

            Yeah! Pelosi,the other moron…somebody AK Lady would love…..or already does….

          72. John Somers says

            aklady, PLEASE get your head out of the sand so you can FOR ONCE sdmell the B.S the Demonuts are trying to get us to believe.

          73. hmmathis says

            AKLady has her head up another orifice and she can’t differentiate between what she is smelling and Democrat BS! Doubtful she has the brainpower to do so anyway.

          74. GODBlessRealAmerica says
          75. Mr Rollo says

            There he is, the idol Moron of all the other Demoncrat clowns.

          76. Robert R. Paulson says

            Name calling liberals are clueless. The electors will vote any way the DNC pays them to.

          77. AKLady says

            The DNC? What about the GOP?
            Give it up. Insults are worthless.

          78. Miyako says

            College Educated Liberals.. Live In ‘Alice And Wonderland World’! Fantasy World Created With Their Marxist Teachers Mind. LOL…LOL…..!

          79. AKLady says

            Apparently, you were too lazy to work and go to school.
            Hence, the jealousy just oozes out of you.
            You could always correct that mistake and earn higher wages.

          80. Miyako says

            When You Were In Fantasy Land….(Hollywood And NY Times Creation) I Served My Country In The Military. (Viet-Nam) You Are Welcome..Preppie. GO TRUMP”! Merry Christmas””

          81. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          82. livefreeordiehard says

            Why would he/she do that? You are obviously college educated, yet you’re a completely brainwashed moron. The rest of us live in the real world, not just running around with our noses up a professor’s butt so we can parrot their dribble.

          83. AKLady says

            Tell that to your doctor the next time you see her/him.
            Like I said, you could always correct that mistake, go back to school and earn higher wages.

          84. Dolores Wieland says

            You are a dumb ars. You know nothing of Miyako, me, nor many others on this site. They definitely HAVE COMMON SENSE, which you DO NOT…All those negatives you espouse apparently apply to you….

          85. AKLady says

            You would not recognize common sense if it walked up and slapped you in the face. The last three of your insults were based on your markedly low reading comprehension.

          86. Karen McNeilly says

            My dear, the DEMOCRATS have been in control for HOW LONG? THEY are the perpetrators and proprietors of the freebie train. You didn’t hear Republican candidates expanding government dependency, increasing unfunded entitlements, (unfunded except by taxpayers…You & Me) (increasing by extending freebies to “refugees” and illegals, again paid for by taxpayers). The Trump Train is the train to change, to cleaning up, to balancing our budget, paying our debt, decreasing the burden of over-enlarged government….getting rid of corruption, fraud, cronyism, non-transparency, whether it be by the makers of policy or the users of policy.

          87. Dolores Wieland says

            I’m hoping the Trump train keeps chugging along and making positive changes for our country…He’s not even in office yet and has already done some good…I am so proud….

          88. Jonathan Brooks says

            Ignore AK. This schill is some kind of paid comment thug, and pops up with fractured English, shifting fake backgrounds and ambiguous sexual identity, that suggests a male pretending female.

          89. AKLady says

            Insults are all you have.
            How about some facts oce in awhile.
            It would not kill you.

          90. AKLady says

            Insults are all you have.
            How about some facts once in awhile.
            It would not
            kill you.

          91. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Fact PRESIDENT TRUMP
            Fact we won you lost
            Fact YOU ARE A MORON!!!
            Fact Crooked Lying Hillary Lost !

          92. AKLady says

            You are on permanent disability do to mental dysfunction, no doubt left.

          93. albaby2 says

            And your facts are where?

          94. albaby2 says

            Where are your facts?

          95. AKLady says

            The Electoral College votes Tuesday.
            The Trump legal history is all over the Internet.
            Start with United States v Trumo, NY, 1973.

          96. albaby2 says

            And did any of this result in criminal charges or anything else that would disqualify Trump from the Presidency? Other than in your opinion, that is?

          97. AKLady says

            You voted for Trump and did not look at his past.
            Talk about the dumbing down of America.
            The DOJ sued him 180 times.
            There has been over 4,000 civil suits — 100 just this year,
            Some are still open. Then there are his businesses,
            It will be interesting to see how much time he can give to America.

          98. albaby2 says

            Again, how many convictions?

          99. AKLady says

            As uual, you are confused.
            Start with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973

          100. albaby2 says

            Did your handlers tell you to post that?

          101. AKLady says

            Does insulting people make you feel powerfu/? More grown up?
            What is the point of your action?
            Why do ou find truth to be a problem>

          102. AKLady says

            Suggest you learn the difference betwen civil and criminal law.
            You are makinga fool of yourself.

          103. albaby2 says

            Bet he spends less time golfing and vacationing than Obama.

          104. AKLady says

            Trump is woking on wife #3.
            She is the second one that was Communist raised and educated.
            Like wife #2, she is a tramp who committed adultry with a married man.

          105. albaby2 says

            Trump married them. Clinton just screwed them and discarded them. How do you know what went on in Obamas bedroom? Clinton was a married man who committed adultry with an unmarried aide WHILE PRESIDENT AND IN THE OVAL OFFICE.LOL

          106. AKLady says

            Mr. ” “Grab them by the pussy” Trump???

          107. AKLady says

            Why are you so interested in another person’s sex life?

          108. albaby2 says

            Here’s a fact for you. THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES ARE IN. TRUMP WON, YOU LOST!

          109. AKLady says

            When did fact and law become win or ose?
            Grow up.

          110. albaby2 says

            The fact is the law says you lost!

          111. AKLady says

            Just what do you think I lost?
            Like so many on this site, you assume, assume, assume …

          112. TPM says

            If I were Trump, my first act would be to discontinue the cellular plans, for all of the Obama phone holders.

          113. albaby2 says

            Hard to tell if excessive cell phone use causes brain damage or if it was a pre-existing condition among Obamaphone users. Hardly ever see them without a phone against their head, but some have hands free phones so they can shoplift and take orders for merchandise at the same time.

          114. Dolores Wieland says

            I was warned previously of her being a troll. She makes no sense most of the time. I figured she is trying to get to 100,000 comments, as she has over 72,000 now ….If I answer her, it’s entertainment for me….nothing else…….

          115. JJ says

            Me too, Delores!!

          116. AKLady says

            Trump has done nothing.
            You have fallen for lies.
            Trump = Fourth Reich.
            Thankfully, there exists a Congress and a Supreme COurt to keep him in check.

          117. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            TRUMP has saves 1,100 jobs and got Billions from Japan to invest and create jobs you Liberal Moron!!!! PRESIDENT TRUMP isn’t even in office hes done more then Obama could ever dream Obama put us 20 trillion in debt!

            TRUMP IS TRUTH Crooked lying Hillary is a liar!!!

            Trump=The Peoples President and Champion for America by Americans!

          118. AKLady says

            How did Trump do it? A huge part of the answer is simple: with Indiana tax dollars .The truth is that instead of busting up a system that encourages companies to threaten relocation in exchange for big public subsidies, Trump has reinforced it.

            Pence’s Indiana Economic Development Corporation has awarded $24 million in incentives to 10 companies that had collectively laid off 3,800 people while shifting jobs abroad — in less than three years.

          119. trappertom says

            My Dearest Karen–You are wonderful. Said It all.

          120. Karen McNeilly says

            Thanks. I do get upset that so many of the Hillary supporters completely close their minds to anything they think even MIGHT be negative. A dear friend asked to be removed from all groups I forward to until after the election, because did not want to hear ‘lies and exaggeration’ about Hillary any more. The even bigger part of the mystery: was HS Am. History teacher for nearly 35 yrs. I was floored by the stubborn close-mindedness, + unwillingness to hear any criticism, including even the confirmed stuff. Not a ‘protester’ but not happy. Still supports Hillary. I truly just do not ‘get’ it, no matter how hard I try.

          121. AKLady says

            Except that is exactly what Saint Reagan did.
            To go with that, he almpst doubled the number of federal employees.

          122. AKLady says

            Eight years and there is still more Bush damage that must be repaired. Given Trump’s total lack of legal training, experience and knowledge; we will be lucky if America makes it through is time in office. Putin is his idol and friend.

          123. AKLady says

            Don’t you have anything otiginal to offer.
            All you do is copy other people’s work — iver, and ovee and over, and over …

          124. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            hahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahaha Goodbye and thank u Real America!


          125. albaby2 says

            Beat the Bushes, it’s all Democrats have. LOL

          126. Lajos Markos says

            you with the low IQ you can read and have on sense at all
            for your info blind do read in your face

          127. AKLady says

            Your post makes no sense, at all.

          128. Dolores Wieland says

            I can cipher what he/she meant..Foreigners are not perfect in English, but then Americans aren’t either..

          129. AKLady says

            If you want to live, work and vote in thise country, you need to learn the language.
            Tens of thousands of Cubans did just that when they fled Casteo.

          130. Dolores Wieland says

            No one said anything about living, working, or voting in this country. The Cubans you refer to speak/write better English than many Americans as do most foreigners. Some have a problem with getting the right order of nouns/verbs and spelling. That was the point, but you’re too ignorant to see that….Your answer to my previous statement is null and void….

          131. AKLady says

            I suggest thst you increase your reading comprehension.
            You obviously missed the point of my very cleatly stated post.

          132. TadhgMcLir says

            Did you actually Read the list????

          133. AKLady says

            Of course not. That wouldbe too much lke work.

          134. GODBlessRealAmerica says

            Ru smokin Democrack again?

          135. JJ says

            I think you must have missed something. 3ronald1 sounds like everything but a low IQ liberal. Go back and read again!

          136. AKLady says

            Congress makes the laws.
            You elect Congress.

            Trump will be impeached if he violates the Constitution.
            Almost everything he has promised to do is unconstitutional.

            Forced recital of rituals will create patriotism and love of
            country begins a birth, at home.
            What authority might that be?
            You lie. Your children see and hear it.
            You exaggerate. Your children see and hear it.
            How do you expect them to e truthful and honest?

          137. patriotgirl1 says

            If that was true, barry hussain obummer would have been impeached almost on day one. I believe he’s done more to violate the Constitution more than any president in US History.

          138. AKLady says

            1. President Obama not only has a law degree, but he is an experenced Consitutional Law Professor. What is your source of Constitutional Law expertise? For thst matter, have you ever taken a college level law course of any type?
            2. If you want to seriously discuss law, and Prwsidential qualifications, maybe you should learn how to express youself in an adult manner. Name calling is infantile.

          139. Labor74 says

            “Law Prof”…where? He was an ass’t instructor!!!! And he’s so “qualified,” that he has NO license to practice…& neither does Michelle.

          140. ABO says

            According to Snopes, a noted liberal fact checking site, Obama has never held a license to practice law.

          141. albaby2 says

            Snopes is not a liberal fact checking site. Give some examples that made you come to that conclusion.

          142. ABO says

            Snopes has been behind a great deal of the anti-Trump rhetoric throughout the presidential campaign being passed off as ‘fact” and have been thoroughly debunked on many occasions. Apparently you are a liberal lemming that is willing to just accept whatever the left puts out there without question.

          143. albaby2 says

            Your extreme right wing hatred is evident in your posts. Everyone that disagrees eith you is a liberal, right? Give an example of Snopes facts that have been debunked by credible sources.

          144. AKLady says

            Obama is licensed by the State of Illinois. He practiced civil rights law. Both can return their law licenses to active status should they so desire.

          145. ABO says

            Don’t believe me? Go look! As I said Snopes is a note left leaning ‘fact checker’. Why would they say this if they could spin it??? You, however will use every opportunity to put out false information but when the facts are out there you make up something to fit your sleazy, dishonest agenda.

          146. AKLady says

            Obama is licensed by the State of Illinois. He practiced civil rights
            law. Both can return their law licenses to active status should they …

          147. TPM says

            The Illinois State Bar Association found irregularities (lies) on Obama’s application and his license was either denied or rescinded.
            Michelle, on the other hand, gave her license up as part of a plea bargain, when she was accused of committing fraud.
            Funny, IIRC, both Clintons lost their law licenses, too. They don’t call them Slick Willie and Crooked Hillary, for nothing.
            How did any of these lawless clowns ever get elected, to any office?
            Do democrats and their constituents have no standards?

          148. ABO says

            Thank you for your obviously well researched response TPM. I had heard much to that effect but found only a lot of conflicting stories. I’ve been trying to sort them out and hopefully discover verified information when I received your response. Again thank you.

          149. AKLady says

            PROBLEM — it is all a total lie.

            Both Obama and Michelle are licensed attorneys
            Both Obamas inactivated their licenses.
            Both can reactivate them at any time,
            should they decide to return to the practice of law .
            Maintaining an active “professional” license requires the holder to attend continuing education classes. I cannot think of a single University or College that Obama or Michelle could attend without causing problems for other students. The school would be overwhelmed with reporters and the curious.

          150. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          151. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          152. pinstripes7 says

            Must have learned it from Hillary

          153. AKLady says

            Factually, both of the Obamas are licensed to practice law by the State of Illinois. Both have placed their licenses on “inactive status. That data is available at the Illinois Bar Assoc. web site.
            Obama was practicing law when he taught. Part-time professors are termed “Lecturers” by the University of Chicago. The University states that Obana was a “Senior Lecturer”

          154. Labor74 says

            Yeah, she’d face time for fraud had she NOT given up her license!!
            Him? He actually took bar exam???

          155. AKLady says

            Wh do you lie?
            Obama is licensed by the State of Illinois. He practiced civil rights
            law. Both can return their law licenses to active status should they …

          156. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          157. Dolores Wieland says

            Can you not quit with your ignorant repetitions??

          158. AKLady says

            Stop lying.
            As long as their are lies, that is what I will post.

          159. Dolores Wieland says

            Sorry, but I have to respond when I said I would not…”As long as their (there) are lies, that is what I will post”. You are telling me that you will post lies; Hahahahahahah!

          160. ABO says

            Please, by all means instruct us, through your great and glorious knowledge of Constitutional Law the deep, dark details of Prwsidential qualifications. Maybe you should however try to get a grasp of reality first.

          161. AKLady says

            The Constitution is published on the Internet.
            Why don’t you try readfing it sometime>

          162. ABO says

            I’ve studied the Constitution for decades> I know and fully understand what is stated therein. What exactly have I said regarding any portion of the Constitution that you believe to be incorrect?

          163. AKLady says

            Try Article II, Section 2. Clause 1 — pay close attention to … “and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

          164. Dolores Wieland says

            Another answer that does not fit the question. You are really not with it are you??

          165. AKLady says

            Then you have not presented your question clearly.
            The major issue has been immigration.
            Illegal mmigration is a federal crime.
            The Constitution cearly states the President can pardon those crimes.

          166. Peatro Giorgio says

            Okay so someone paid for Obama Law degreen at Harvard. Mean while Obama also claimed he attended Columbia University. Now that facts are over 400 of his fellow alumni Members have no recollection of him ever attending or participating in an class room or lecture hall.
            Now as for his expertise in Consituational law. Well he truly hasn’t shown us or the nation much in that regard. After all He an His administration hold the record for most cases lost before district courts,lost before federal courts an lastly cases lost before the Supreme court.

          167. mrpoohead says

            400 out of 4500 don’t remember him. Wow! Pssst; don’t think he’s doing the prosecuting/defending. GW Bush lost 22 million emails. Who cares!

          168. TPM says

            Sounds plausible when you say only 400 out of 4500 students don’t remember him
            BUT, it also means that they’ve yet to find even one person who did remember him

          169. ABO says

            Excellent point TPM.

          170. rocky says

            Were not the 400 actual classmates… and not just students ?

          171. AKLady says

            No, they were niot. Harvard is a big school, but 400 is a bit hard to fit into a classroom.

          172. mrpoohead says

            …..or they just cherry-picked the facts. This is right-wing idiocy – what more do you expect? They think Trump is going to fix everything and blame someone for things he has no control over.

          173. pinstripes7 says

            Well, we KNOW that Obama didn’t fix anything in 8 years, so we’re kind of giving Trump the same benefit of the doubt that we gave Barry.

          174. mrpoohead says

            What did you expect the President to fix? They are a figure-head and pen-pusher. The House makes law and policy – the Senate approves or not. The President has no power to do anything – is he going to pay all the debts himself; doubtful, it’s speculated that the banks are propping him up. Will he send his employees (legal or not) to build the wall, take over all the airlines and refuse to sell tickets to Muslims? Offer all “illegals” thousands of dollars to vacate?

            Trump is very clever, played you all for the fools you are. Told you what you wanted to hear, but he has no power to do it. So just what did you expect Obama to do?

            Economy won’t be fixed for two generations – because Congress repealed the Glass-Steagull Act. Now you’ve got to pay for their idiocies. It was the Republicans that did it, though am sure the Democrats would have done it too – they are both owned by the finance sector and the US is after all a plutocracy .

            How the mighty have fallen – the Empire That Never Was, fallen on it’s butt. All that awaits is ignominy, destruction or respectability.

            Ha, ha, ha!

          175. pinstripes7 says

            The fact that you’re hoping for failure says volumes about you. You will be proven wrong along with the rest of your lefty cronies. Liberality is dead because of the inane rhetoric of the msm. The rust belt saw right through their game and went the other way, to the betterment of our country..

          176. mrpoohead says

            Pragmatic reality doofus. Not hoping for failure, merely pointed out the errors already made and that it is not fixable in the short term and how the country actually works – nothing to do with the President.

            Nothing left or right about it – just reality. Not all of us are blind. Moron! Trump/Clinton irrelevant; both repugnant, neither worthy of job, one merely a bigger joke than the other.

            Or prove me wrong.

          177. pinstripes7 says

            Doofus? Moron? I see who I’m really dealing with here. You’re either posting from your mommy’s basement or you are a Bernie voter.

          178. mrpoohead says

            Ahhh; so no substance then, no proof just accusations. Voted with my feet. Didn’t mid Bernie, didn’t mind Jeb – they at least aren’t a joke. President is a figure-head, zip power – so you are looking for a statesman not scum.

          179. AKLady says

            There are more than one. The right-wing lies and spreads lies without the least hesitation. There are articles about Obama’s classmates all over the Internet.
            There is no doubt he is remembered, the man graduated with honors.

          180. Dolores Wieland says

            He didn’t share classes with 4500 of them

          181. mrpoohead says

            And probably didn’t share classes with the 400 listed. Duh!

          182. AKLady says

            He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School.. He was President of the school’s newspaper “The Law Review”.


            Sorry Peatro, that is not something you can buy

            He graduated Columbia with honors, again, omething you cannot buy. At least one of his classmates remembers him well, and the university proudly claims Obama.

          183. John Somers says

            And he was lying. So far there is no none who remembered seeing him and they were taking the same classes besides the fact that Mr. & Mrs Odumdun LOST THEIR LICENSE TO PRATICE LAW and so did Killery and Bill !!!

          184. AKLady says

            Your entire post is false.
            Lying discredits you.
            Lying also embarasses America.

          185. JeromefromLayton says

            Where’s his published Thesis? What was the subject?
            At least with Hillary, there was one, a laudatory paper on Saul Alinsky, the author of Rules for Radicals.

          186. AKLady says

            Published thesis?
            No one “publishes their thesis”
            Some idiot dug up Hillary’s paper in an attempt to embarrass her.
            Obama graduated cum Laude from Harvard law.
            He was admitted to the Bar and practiced law in Illinois

          187. JeromefromLayton says

            Normally, Master’s and Doctorial Thesis are published and on file in the library of the college of attendance. That’s how the Chemist I worked for back in 1960 found out his discovery of a sulfur exchange reaction had actually been reported six months earlier and there went the patent application. OBTW, this is also how plagiarists get busted. Some of us have been there and know how it works.

          188. AKLady says

            Not all universities participate in ProQuest Dissertation and Theses Dissemination program. Stop and think about it for awhile. How many colleges and universities are there in the United States, the world? How many student graduate every year? The stack of paper you insist must be produced is mind boggling.

          189. AKLady says

            Blah, blah, blah, lie, insult …repeat ad nauseam.
            Tedious, boring, repetitive …

          190. John Somers says

            You are a MOST pathetic soul.

          191. AKLady says

            What is pathetic are people such as yourself that cling to lies. Such action strongly indicates racial bigotry.

            “The Obamas were “never the subject of any public disciplinary proceedings” so sayth both the Illinois Courts and the Illinois Bar Assoc.

            President Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991 and was admitted as a lawyer by the Supreme Court of Illinois on Dec. 17, 1991. Prior to being elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, he worked as a civil rights lawyer at the firm formerly known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

            Four days after Obama announced that he would run for president in February 2007 he voluntarily placed his law license on “inactive” status.

          192. albaby2 says

            Obama used his position and sidestepped the constitution using executive orders. Obama was an adjunct professor and not a full professor.

          193. AKLady says

            Adjuncts are professionals who teach part-time.

            They are more qualified in their area of expertise than the tenured professor.

            Frankly, I much prefer taking clases under the part-time professor. They work in the field they are teaching.

            Oh, and you might want to lwarn how your government actully works.

            Suggest that you read Article II, Secton 2 of the Constitution. Pay close attention to the part about “power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United Stateson”.

          194. ABO says

            This from one whose hypocrisy is widely known and whose fabrications and obfuscation have eliminated any increment of credibility she has ever claimed. Your sick, twisted idea of the purpose of the Constitution consists of nothing more than cut and paste clips of ridiculous liberal rhetoric with absolutely no foundation in truth whatsoever. Your stories about your tremendous education and your history of terrifically high level employment are nothing more than utter fabrication. You and YOU alone have built your own shaky foundation here and no one who reads your utter tripe has any reason whatsoever to believe a word of it. It is YOU who should try to be truthful and honest, for a change.

          195. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          196. ABO says

            Well you are entirely welcome. And you’re right, it says a lot about me. It says that I recognize a vindictive, hateful, dishonest fraud when I see one. Your hateful fraudulent character shines through in everything you post here for all to see. Congratulations!

          197. AKLady says

            You just proved my points, beyond all reasonable doubr.
            Thank you.

          198. ABO says

            As usual you refuse to answer my question and simply respond with snarky comments. Over time I have asked you to tell me what I stated that was incorrect on several different subjects and you have not once done so. Which tells me that you have absolutely nothing!

          199. Dolores Wieland says

            Finally figured it out with her tripe. She wants to reach 100,00 comments…She’s already over 72,000. She doesn’t know nor care if her answers are true or false….Just the count.. Think I’ll flag her. or not answer her…

          200. ABO says

            I’m sure you’re absolutely right Dolores. I blocked her almost a year ago but here she is back again and I just couldn’t resist.

          201. Dolores Wieland says

            Ditto. I had to answer her last post to me also…couldn’t resist….

          202. ABO says

            I know what you mean. While she is generally simply annoying and disruptive it’s sometimes fun just throwing it back at her.

          203. pinstripes7 says

            Please list the unconstitutional things instead of just saying it, so we may respond specifically.

          204. AKLady says

            Here are ten of them. There are more, but this should get you started.
            1. Trump has promised to build a border wall between Mexico and the United States. (Not within a Oresident’s authority)

            2. He has also promised to deport 11 million immigrants. (The 5th Amendment says this is not within a President’s authority).

            3. Trump has promised to create millions of jobs. (Not within a President’s authority).

            4. He has pledged to repeal the Affordable Care Act. (Only Congress can repeal laws).

            5. Trump has said that he would appoint justices to the Supreme Court who would overturn Roe v. Wade. (Appointment to the Supreme Court is for the lifetime of the Justice, or until the Justice retires. A President an name a justice, but the Senate must approve).

            6. He would get rid of Common Core in our education systems. (Schools are governed at the state and local level. The fedral government can only set standards).

            7. Trump has promised to “bomb the sh*t out of ISIS.” (There is no countey named ISIS. The Senate will impeach him before he can start WW III).

            8. He wants to bring back waterboarding. ( Waterboarding is form of torture. That is a war crime. It volates the Geneva Convetion).

            9. Trump has promised to severely limit the immigration of Syrian refugees into our country. (Again, something only Congress can do).

            10. And he proposed a ban on Muslims. (Unconstitutional. Violates the 1st Amendment).

          205. pinstripes7 says

            There are a lot of things listed that are not unconstitutional. Did you really think that Trump said he was going to institute these changes without going through congress? A little weak there AK.

          206. AKLady says

            Apparently, you have selective hearing or have not been listening
            Congress only has authorty in two of the ten.

          207. patriotgirl1 says


          208. dania says

            Start Getting Onlin incom From Hom More Than $15k Every month.Very Easy Work For Every one and not required any experience just need a Laptop or PC and internet to do this.Visit this link for details……



          209. JeromefromLayton says

            Great summary and you didn’t even mention “Deplorable” or her incredible past.

          210. Miyako says

            HILLARY…………………….The Real Life Witch..! (And Consummate Liar) Is Dead…..! Long Live The VICTOR………………….Donald J Trump”! Get Used To It…..You Sorry Excuses For Americans”! (Liberal Progressive Morons”!) Shall I add…? Bolshevik Lovers”’! (Bernie Sander Lovers)

          211. Linda Contois says

            Totally agree with 3ronald1. Mrs. Clinton is so unstable as a person she is UNFIT to be president. Mrs. Obama says our Country is now “hopeless”, only because the Obamas spent nearly 90 million dollars on vacations instead of using it to HELP OUR PEOPLE. GIVE ME A BREAK MRS. OBAMA, hopeless, you are hopeless. Needing 25 people for your staff and your own mother now to get a PENSION for watching her own grandchildren

          212. OopsyDaisy3 says

            Are you serious about mama/grandma earning a pension for life because she
            lived in the White House, under the roof with the 2 girls and is Michelle’s mother? If so, boy howdy, the Dems have it all covered don’t they? Was Grandma’s Pension buried someplace in one of Bama’s perks?

          213. Linda Contois says

            Yes I am serious. It’s because she’s being considered a “federal employee ” so she’ll get a pension and benefits for life. Nice huh?
            Mrs. Trumps mother isn’t doing this. Actually Baron will remain in NY to go to the same school and Mrs. Trump will stay in NY with him. When she’s needed at the WH, she’ll be there in a lovely outfit that doesn’t cost 12,000 dollars! Like Michelle Obamas last dress.

          214. OopsyDaisy3 says

            Thank you for the info. That group really leaned how to make money off the public, and as i write this they are in Hawaii on another one of their dodge Christmas in The White vacations to the tune of a few millions.
            It is Christmas Eve morning so i will keep this comment reasonably non political. Merry Christmas from Linda in Texas

          215. livefreeordiehard says

            Please keep an eye on his pick for Dept of Education. She is VERY pro Common Core !!! We may need to bombard him with the truth about CC after he gets in office.

          216. Stephen Norman says

            because Trump has actually done something in his life. not just sat in a lecture hall or read about some accomplishment in a book.
            If you have done something then maybe you are qualified to make a comment, if you are on the dole – then please don’t join blogs because your comments are meaningless.

          217. Conservative says

            Oh, just go back to your job at Planned Parenthood.

          218. Michael Paul says

            Let’s say for the sake of argument that we don’t need Trump. Who do we need? You can’t mean Hillary, the picture of corruption plus the person to bring us 4 more disastrous years after the last 8 disastrous years. You should concentrate on the Senate because in 2018 there will be many more democrats trying to keep their seats in the Senate. If Trump does the great job that we expect he will do then Republicans will have a vetoproof Senate starting in Jan. 2019 and Trump will truly be able to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

          219. AKLady says

            Cogress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            Only Comgress can make America “grat again”.
            You elect Congress.
            You do not elect a President.

          220. patriotgirl1 says

            And the President has A LOT to do with WHO gets the votes in Congress.

          221. AKLady says

            That depends upon which Party hold the Presidency and which Party has a majority in the Senate and/or House

          222. Labor74 says

            Then, why the hell has BO been spending, making HIS laws skirting the legislature?? Ah, yes, he’s a “constitutional scholar”….of where?? the 3rd Reich?? Stalin’s USSR? Mao??

          223. AKLady says

            Suggest that you seek treatment with a mental health professional.
            Your statement are false in its entirety.
            Exactly what has Obama spent?
            Exactly what “law” has he made?
            Be specific, very specific

          224. John Somers says

            aklady I’ll tell you what. You asked what Obama has spent. All you have to do is to take care of that little problem and that is YOU take care of the bill for all their vacations and golfing excursions okay. That is $188,000.00 PER HOUR to get Air Force1 in the air. I am positive that should give all those who are on Social Security a nice raise and the service men and women returning from combat a place to live and not on the streets.

          225. ABO says

            Excellent response John Somers but I can assure you that she won’t respond as she is well aware that you are absolutely correct and as usual she has nothing for it.

          226. AKLady says

            Baby boy, those planes like those are are flown by thw military every day.

            President Obama has taken fewer vacation days than George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan (the most recent two-term Republican presidents).

            America did not incur significant costs for Obama’s time off.
            The increased security costs are a myth. Presidential vacations are always working vacations. Taxpayers pay the salaries of White House staffers and Secret Service agents whether the president stays in Washington or not.

            Obama has spent less money than the two-term Republican presidents of the past by taking fewer vacation days — in Bush’s case, that’s more than four times less. The first African-American president in this nation’s history is resented for taking vacations and called “lazy,” because it perpetuates a stereotype.

          227. USAnowMSAsadly says

            If not Trump, who do you want in The White House?

          228. ThenStand says

            We DON’T need “What difference does it make” Hillary!!!!
            She’s dangerous against America for her own profit. If you trust her, please tell me WHY?

          229. Airborne869 says

            THE MUSLIM OBAMA !

          230. ringostarr1 says

            We need the Donald to keep Ted Cruz in his place. With Ted Cruz as president all the /Secret Service Agents will resign because no matter how brave these fine men and women are, none of them are about to accompany Ted Cruz to his serpent handling church.

          231. TadhgMcLir says

            That’s easy, the only alternative is Hillary BusinessAsUsual Clinton. The US would go under in max 6 months.

          232. patriotgirl1 says

            Or less.

          233. Karen McNeilly says

            The WHY is because all of this is due to Hillary’s inability to accept the fact that she is NOT who the people want. She conceded, legally, conclusively, and publicly. She also stated in the debates that she would accept the results. I guess that is what happens when you’re confident that your win is bought and paid for, and therefore a “sure thing”. The WHY is because people who break laws are not supposed to be able to run for office in the first place, and anyone with as many open investigations going as she has is most CERTAINLY NOT QUALIFIED to be our President. She’s an admitted criminal, who has said she had stolen from our WH in the past, has conclusively handled our national security recklessly, endangering it, according to the FBI, she has publicly defended her husband’s criminal behavior for which HE was IMPEACHED for lying about to the Congressional hearings during his Presidency, she has threatened the young women he has sexually assaulted not to publicly accuse him, she was negligent and/or derelict in her duties as Sec. of State, resulting in multiple deaths of Americans on foreign soil, who were in harm’s way, and had repeatedly asked her office to provide them some backup and help. I could continue, but this is all old news, and I don’t understand why any of the electors charged with registering electoral votes for Trump would even THINK that she should still be named President, when she should not have been allowed to run in the first place!! SHE is the UNQUALIFIED CANDIDATE here, NOT Trump! Anyone who can’t see THAT isn’t qualified to be a part of the electoral college.

          234. Miyako says

            To Bury Ignorant Stupid Leftist And Liberal Idiot Thinking.(Hillary a Great Example) Just Look At The Idiots The Colleges Are Graduating……? They Believe in Communism.. How Dumb Is That”’! MERRY CHRISTMAS..! Donald J Trump”!

          235. RonCade says

            The why is: Hillary Clinton. Cheers!

          236. george briar says

            just put your tin foil hat back on and think about the last 8 years if you can and maybe just maybe you will understand.

          237. Wildeagleone says

            Look back at Obamas failures for the last eight years and you will find the answer

          238. Robert R. Paulson says

            SandyO…Because Trump is not a sociualis, screw America democrat.

          239. desert fox says

            …..because of the ash wholes who have been in office for the past eight years. That’s the WHY!

        2. Seldena says

          All a lie. Don’t allow any of theses lies to get in your head.

        3. ringostarr1 says

          But the Democrats want to give you Ted Cruz. There is no way that 37 Republican Electors will bolt and vote for her Royal Hind Ass, Hillary Clinton. The Democrats are only hoping to make Trump a 4 year wonder. And that plays into Ted Cruz’s plan to take over from Trump..

      4. pmbalele says

        There is something wrong with Repubs and TPs. Paul Ryan, McCain and other GOP and TP strongholds should be stopped – Jealousy – he will take all their mistresses. Trump should put them in jail for back-biting him. Before him they fake they like Trump – not when they are in their gangs. It’s too late to overthrow Trump. In fact, those are sour grapes. We know they hated Trump the first day he declared running. But Trump was elected as future president whether we like it or not. After all, even if he is thrown out, we will get a worse president – Pence. This guy thinks women should be relegated to the kitchen as baby-factories. What Ryan and his friends should do is to make sure Trump is in line with values of this Country – ‘A Country of the Free and Home of the Brave.”

      5. AKLady says

        It has happened before. These Presidents did not have the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison and George W. Bush

      6. PERS ponzi 1st repsonders says

        obama said in his latest book..i am really good at killing people with drones..

    2. Mona Leitner says

      People who think like you do keep ignoring the fact that the MAJORITY of Americans did not vote for Trump. If the roles were reversed and Trump had lost the Electoral College vote but won the popular vote you’d be screaming about the purpose of the Electoral College. You’d be saying, “whatever happened to ‘every vote counts?'” In this case, it’s obvious that 2.7 million votes do not count for anything. Even biased YOU ought to be able to understand that. That alone is ample argument for changing or eliminating the Electoral College procedure. And this has happened TWICE in 16 years. As our country continues to be almost evenly divided on issues, unless changed, the Electoral College procedure will continue to be a problem requiring clarification. Remember, the next time YOUR candidate could lose this way. I can already hear the screaming from people like you when that happens. Better to resolve it NOW.

      1. Zigg Seagle says

        I did not SCREAM when YOUR candidate won 8 years ago! People like me? I will give you a pass as you are certainly not very bright!

      2. Jose says

        Keep opening your canary brain and see if a recount is not asked of california but it would have to be done by someone from out of states since the whole state is “owned” by ILLEGAL INVADERS some of which probably voted. This in itself is more than half of the 2.7 million votes you are talking about. Recall how the “owned” governor gave all a license (including ILLEGAL INVADERS) then said anyone with a license can vote.

        1. Bratt77 says

          I think they should recount California and remove all illegals votes while they are at it. Its easy to win by 2 million votes when illegals are in that state by about 4 million.

          1. HopeforAmerica says

            Who wish they were illegal votes.

          2. jad says

            Why is the democrat party against voter ID laws? Doesn’t the democrat party want voter integrity in our elections?

          3. Merrit says

            No stupid, they just want everyone to have a realistic chance to vote; and poor people tend to vote Dem; that’s why the restriction is a Rep idea.

          4. jad says

            How is showing an Id when you vote a restriction?

          5. Merrit says

            Do you have an ID (other than a driver’s license)?
            Now imagine all the poor people that don’t have driver’s licenses.

          6. jad says

            I primarily have drivers license for ID but sometimes have to use social security card along with drivers license when two forms of Id required . Now however before I had drivers license I had state issued Id just costs a few dollars and I needed it to cash checks at bank as well as other purposes for proof of identity. So you don’t need drivers license just photo ID works fine . Don’t you think it is important to secure election process? The state of texas offered free ID’s to all people who could not afford a few dollars and still democrats are against Id to vote it certainly makes it easier to commit voter fraud with no ID don’t you think?

          7. Merrit says

            You have very good points; I like your reasoning. I only wish the republican administrators had such innocent reasons.

          8. jad says

            Voter Id is nothing new I have had to show Id to vote when I lived in Wisconsin , Illinois, Colorado and New mexico and Utah I have been voting since 1980.

          9. jad says

            You have to have some form of Id to cash check or for employment purposes don’t you think voting is important enough to have Id ?

          10. Merrit says

            Yes, I do. But there are apparently many poor people that don’t.

          11. jad says

            Well like I posted before The state of texas offered free Id to people who could not afford a couple of dollars and still democrats are against it. How do poor people cash a check or apply for a job or even apply for unemployment or welfare they have to have Id for these purposes.

          12. jad says

            Poor people can afford free Id cards don’t you think?

          13. jad says

            How can you verify someone has not voted multiple times if they are not required to have an ID. How is Id restrictive ?

          14. Michele Washington says

            You Took The Words (And Thoughts)Right Out Of My Mouth.I Live IN Cali,And Let Me Tell You,La Raza;Who Feels Cali And Other West Coast States Were Stolen From Them(It Wasn’t,Google® The Treaty Involved Between Cali And Mexico) And Sanctions Amnesty,Has Infiltrated State House In Sacto.,Pushed For Bilingual Language Spoken In Schools,Pushed For Drivers Licenses(Which Are Coded For Non Use For Federal Purposes,But Cali Also Has No Voter ID law),Has Pushed For ACA To Be Available For Illegals,And Other Benefits For Same-Has Now Pushed Gov. Brown To Appoint Javier Becerra D.CA.,As Attorney General Per Kamala Harris Won Barbara Boxers Senate Seat(She’s Retiring)And Who Are All Proponents Of Open Borders.Illegal Immigration Cost The Taxpayer $113 BILLION per Year,And Are Have Become A Critical Drain On Our Social Services And Economy.Now Sanctuary Cities Are Pushing To Hire Many,Many Lawyers To PROTECT ILLEGAL FELONS,And Other Undocumented Aliens,By HAVING THE TAXPAYER FOOT THe BILL.It Is Absolutely Reprehensible,Morally And Constitutionally.And Living In A City Where The Ninth Circuit Of Appeals Would Give It’s Blessing Should This Go To Court,Is NOT Comforting.And If Federal Funding Eventually Finds Its Way Here,My City Is Willing To Raise City Taxes And Cut Social Programs Here… In Order To “Protect”People Who Have No Legal Right To Be Here,And Will Bankrupt The State Secondary To Increased Illegal Immigration And Foment Rise In Crime.It Is A Sad Day When Illegal Felons And Other Illegals Have More Rights Than American Citizens,Who SUBSIDIZE These People.I Wish I Had Another Place To Go Should California Secede.This Is Complete Madness,Descending Further Down The Rabbit Hole Of Insanity.I Guarantee HRC Won Cali On The Backs Of Illegals,And NOT American Electorate.And Why Not,Business For The Upsurpers Is BRISK,and Booming.

          15. Merrit says

            You had thoughts in your mouth? Somehow I can believe that… and if there were any facts in there, you must have swallowed them and shit them down the toilet without recognizing them

          16. John says

            And also when there are more votes counted than people registered to vote by hundreds if not thousands per county

          17. Merrit says

            Allergic to facts, are we?

          18. Merrit says

            Another person gullible to fake news and conspiracy theories”

        2. Sara Engelbert says

          It semmed as though there was some ballot stuffing in Detroit, too.

          1. Merrit says


          2. Sara Engelbert says

            You must have attracted that gross man.

        3. HopeforAmerica says

          Bring it On!

        4. Merrit says

          Illegal invaders?? …and you’re calling Mona Canary brain? It’s like the blast furnace calling a match HOT!

      3. Gale says

        Spoken like a true lying worthless liberal

      4. Michael Dennewitz says

        Another damned liberal
        B L O C K E D !! I love that feature!! ???

      5. Gale says

        the evil, pathetic, corrupt lying clinton *itch didn’t win the majority numbnuts. The group Vote Stand just happened to to find over 3 million illegal immigrant votes. They don’t count or are you too stupid to know that??? Of course you are.

        1. HopeforAmerica says

          Trump just paid $25 million settlement for Fraud -Trump Universities.

        2. Merrit says

          Lord, where did this country come up with so many nitwits?

      6. tommylaws says

        You would rather have the most evil woman in American history be in office. This shows us that you have no conscience as to her diabolically evil and refuse to look at the feminine version ofCharles Manson Who is Hillary Clinton. Adolph Hitler would be a better president than Hillary Clinton. satan himself would be a better president than Hillary Clinton at least he doesn’t eat children

      7. Mary Muennig says

        You are in error; the majority of Americans did vote for Pres.-Elect Trump.

        1. HopeforAmerica says

          No, the majority of Americans voted for Hill.

          1. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            PROOF PLEASE another lie from the MSM.
            I do not believe it!!!

        2. Merrit says

          When did you just climb out from underneath that rock?

      8. CNKIV says

        People like you need to study your constitution, as neither candidate received a majority (over 50%) of the popular vote. You also ignore the fact that the founders set up the electoral college for a reason. One of which was to give more weight to the states so that they would not be tyrannized by cities. The massive Democrat inspired fraud through registration of illegal aliens, dead people voting, people voting in multiple jurisdictions, counting votes 6 times (in Detroit)…..It’s no wonder that Dems opposed voter ID and allowing only citizens to vote. They’ve been pulling this crap for decades. Oh yes, there is always the fact that if we used the popular vote only (would take a constitutional amendment) the candidates would have campaigned very differently

        Perhaps if you feel that the cities should elect the President, I think the rest of the states should keep the food they grow, the widgets they make, and the oil and iron they mine in their states and let you fend for yourselves.

        1. Sara Engelbert says

          That’s right. Obviously, the Founding Fathers would think Trump was the best choice.

          1. Merrit says

            …another smoker!

          2. Sara Engelbert says

            What a stupid comment! Obama is a smoker.

        2. Merrit says

          I have only two questions for you:
          What are you smokin’?
          Where can I get some?

      9. JAKEJACOBY says

        The majority in each state voted for their choice. The electors then vote per the majority vote in their state. Very democratic and in accordance with the constitution! Where was the outrage when Hillary lied and put our nation at risk with her unprotected emails?

        1. Sara Engelbert says

          It actually gets even better than that. Trump captured a majority in 85% of the U.S. counties. If you look at the county map, almost the entire country is red. The only spots that are blue are around the coasts where there is a lot of immigration.

      10. JD says

        Kinda silly there. This is a republic set up specifically so that we don’t have mob rule. “Majority’…popular vote is written nowhere in our constitution. It’s the electoral college and it’s there for a reason.

      11. barbara says

        Put on booties, hug your teddy bear, and cry yourself to sleep.
        Then set up lunch with Christine Pelosi. I just heard her speak and she’s more of a dunce than her mother.
        Thank God you will no longer be running the country…..and perhaps……not for a long long time.

        1. Michele Washington says

          Lol ??????????!!!!!

          1. barbara says

            I watched Trump’s Thank You Tour in Wisconsin last night on TV.
            How uplifting, with Christmas trees lighted in the background, people laughing, supporters cheering, and our President-Elect wishing Merry Christmas.

            And now we have these whining liberals trying to steal an election.
            What a negative, depressive, and angry group. I hope they get therapy sessions for Christmas…….altho’ they probably won’t help.

          2. Michele Washington says

            Absolutely! My Heart Was Pleased To See The Wealth Of Christmas Trees And Patriotic Spirit Enveloped In That Forum And Which Is A Microcosm On How Most Of The American Electorate Feels.As A Woman Of Colour Living In A Sanctuary City And State,I Am So Proud That I Did A #DemExit This Year,Registered As An AI,And Cast My Vote For Our Next President.Barbara,In All My Years,I NEVER Could Have Conceived My Move To The Right.The People I Have Met Are NOT Demons,Stupid,Or Uneducated/Uninformed,A Ugly Lie Perpetrated By The Left.The Honesty,Forthrightnest,Love,Knowledge Base,And Acceptance Into The Fold,Is Refreshing And Has Helped To Validate My Decision To Leave My Lifelong Party And I Have NOt Looked Back.I Have More Fun To And Am Still Learning,But I Am An Apt Pupil Open To Culling Information And Fresh Ideas From Excellent TeachersAnd Lovely People Such As Yourself And Others On This Thread.Hard To Believe I Was Once A Stalwart Leftist,But I Don’t Regret It:I Learned So Much,KNOW Their Thought Process And Mind Set,Recognize Their Alinsky/Cloward And Piven Talking Points,Can Expose Them Further For What/Whom They Are.Thank God For PEOTUS Trump,And A Big FU For ALL Those Attempting To Subvert The Will Of The People Who Voted Overwhelmingly For Him,And Hijack Our Constitution To Fit Their Marxist/Globalist Sick Agenda.In The End It Is An Exercise In Futility.It Further Damages Their (Desperate) Credibility And They WILL NOT WIN.Waiting With Increased Impatience For January 20,2016 @12:00 P.M. To Commence,And Happy To Help #MAGA.

          3. Michele Washington says

            Sorry For The Spelling And Grammatical Errors.Typing Too Fast,As I Have Some Pressing Errands To Run ???!

          4. barbara says

            Michele, so happy to know how you feel, and most of all, that you are so happy with your choice…… I was an Independent, but changed to Republican to vote for Trump.
            I have been learning so much also in this election process. I too look forward to Inauguration Day! It will be so exciting so see a man sworn in who is for our country and for our people. I feel frustrated ( and angered) to see the way the liberals are behaving; they’re making fools of themselves; and for that, I feel sorry for them. I am so grateful
            that my daughter has graduated from college, because if she needed crayons and a therapy dog to accept the winner, I could have very well refused her tuition!
            So nice meeting you and have a very Merry Christmas. Our thoughts will remain the same and will think of you while watching the inauguration.

          5. Merrit says

            Wake up, people! He’s a narcissist. Look that up. He’s mentally unstable! He’s not for the people, he’s not for the country–he’s a narcissist, for Christ sake. He’s only out for himself! When are you weak-minded people going to wake up enough and see that? My 10-year-old granddaughter sees it. She advises that everyone read the Wikipedia definition of Dark Triad. I wish everyone would do that. It explains everything, including why you fell for his charming con.

          6. barbara says

            I am awake, thank you; having my first cup of coffee…….reading your post…….
            The election was a month ago, and you’re still not able to accept the results….still on a pathetic rant? You’ve set a wonderful example for your granddaughter, screaming like a lunatic because you didn’t get you way. Calm down and explain to your granddaughter that ” You don’t always get what you want, but you get what you need.” Send Obama a sympathy card and help him come up with a legacy.
            I join our President Elect Trump in saying Merry Christmas!

          7. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            Merry Christmas, Michele and Barbara and all of the WE THE PEOPLE in our America. President-Elected Trump will work hard to make America Great again!
            I believe that he will be a GREAT President!!!

          8. barbara says

            Merry Christmas to you, Susan. Just saying Merry Christmas makes us all feel good.
            I believe also that President Elect Trump will be a great president.
            We have been given a Christmas gift of our dreams!
            We’ve been also given another gift: The actions of the lunatic left just may open the eyes of those who cried over not getting their choice, enabling them to see their pitiful behavior.

          9. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            This idea that we cannot say Merry Christmas is ridiculous in America.I think that this latest ploy to once again spew FAKE accusations of our new President Trump is deplorable!! Isn’t it odd that back in October Oldbummer told Mr. Trump to stop whining, because our election process couldn’t be hacked? He told him to stop saying that the election could be rigged. NOW, presto/chango
            he flip flops after Hitlary lost!!! He also lied about a “peaceful transition” which has been anything but peaceful. He also said that there cannot be 2 presidents.
            So, why doesn’t Oldbummer, just go away and shut up??? That would be a great Christmas present, would it not? God Bless us one and all!

          10. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            Tell me Merrit, why did you fall for Hitlary? Isn’t she the one who accepted all of the money into her slush fund? Did she not promise favors to donors? SHE is the one who was totally deluded thinking she could not lose. Did she not go ballistic when she lost? Doesn’t her staff fear her angry outbursts? She is the same person who had to be carted away from a 911 ceremony? She is totally unfit!!! He gave up his entire business to be President. He ran to help America, so how is he gaining?

          11. Tom Deitz says

            I think their going to get a piece of coal in their stockings. 😉

          12. barbara says

            Just a piece, Tom?
            Next year we can haul it in from our miners, who WILL be at work! ???

      12. battue_you says

        You either have koolade stains on your face or a brown ring around your neck. Which is it?

        1. HopeforAmerica says

          Battue; Hey! Do the research then if you don’t Norm.

          1. battue_you says

            I’m aware of the reason the Founders created the Electoral College. You might want to research it for yourself. Long story short – it is a protection for the interests of so called “flyover country” which may prevent the four or five most populous States from riding roughshod over the rest. very simplistic explanation of a complicated subject, to some anyway.

      13. Rick D. says

        “People like you” demonstrate their ignorance with statements like yours that support the popular vote vs. electoral college. To use your own analogy against you, if the Crooked One had won the election but lost the popular vote and Trump supporters were complaining, you’d call us “poor losers”. The FACTS (which bed-wetting liberals like yourself overlook) are that Trump won 95 % of all counties in the US & won 30 states. If it weren’t for the brain-dead, “where’e my free stuff” metropolitan cities (NYC, LA, Boston), HRC would’ve lost the popular vote too. So, stop your whining and ‘woman up’. You lost!!!

      14. Stan Joy says

        Hey Mona, I never heard you say anything about the fact that Nixon won the popular vote against Kennedy, but Kennedy got the majority of the Electoral Votes and became President,
        which by the way, you didn’t see or hear an uproar as your liberals are doing now !! So Mona, if we went by the popular vote it would be okay that California, Chicago, New York, and Philadelphia voters would or could elect a President, right?? Now Mona, that would mean, NH, Maine, Montana, Arkansas, Alabama, even Texas and many other states might as well stay home!! Is that what you want?? Our forefathers were very intelligent people, to devise a system where EVERY state would have a voice in electing a President !! Think about that.
        God Bless

        1. Merrit says

          The late (and great) George Carlin once said, “Never underestimate the power of STUPID in large numbers.”
          Perfect description of the 2016 election!

          1. Stan Joy says

            Well I am a some what aware of George Carlin myself. Actually I never cared that much about him. It is strange perhaps that some people feel if you don’t vote the way they do, well, guess you must be stupid. You can keep on voting for people like Clinton who have out & out lied, but that’s okay, right? Well obviously, I didn’t vote for O’Bama, not because of his color, but because of his political beliefs. But Merrit I guess I may not be too bright as I prayed for him and hoped that he could turn out to be one of the greatest Presidents!! I really did and I didn’t go out and smash windows or riot. I truly believe in our country and the Constitution and I voted for Trump because I am sick and tired of sending people to Washington and never getting any results and these remarks are also for the Republicans as well as the Democrats! Thanks for your comment, though I’m sorry that you have to be that ugly. Have a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. God Bless all.

      15. GraceW says

        You have no idea about the Constitution. You are just another Commiecrat moron

      16. primitive says

        Considering Clinton’s rigged primary and dishonest debates, what makes you think she honestly won the vote of the populace? We vote on a machine with a little dial and it also runs a paper ballot. When I had cast all my votes, I went back and checked my ballot before I finally cast it. It said I had not voted for the presidential slot. i had. And my vote was for Trump. I corrected it and it went through. I wonder how many lost their vote by not making a final check of the ballot. I also wonder how many votes for President were so dumped if the vote cast had been for Hillary. I have not heard of one. BTW, i LIVE IN A STATE IN WHICH THE VOTING MACHINES WERE SOROS OWNED

        1. HopeforAmerica says

          Good thing your state Also had paper ballots. I think All States should have paper ballots as back up to the machines.

      17. Norm says

        Mona, you obviously never studied American History. The electoral college was established to make sure that one segment of this great nation does not control the government. The number of representatives and senators is based on the same premise that the federal government cannot be controlled by the states with the largest populace. It is reflected in the constitution and is one of the greatest governing tools devised by our forefathers. They were aware of how governments in other countries were controlled by devious rulers that depended on the large support they received from unscrupulous followers that received the greatest benefits for their loyalty to these tyrant rulers. The Electorial College was and is the only way a government can be kept in check by via the response of all factions that comprise our country.

        1. HopeforAmerica says

          Some have speculated that our founders may have Not trusted the voters to choose a capable and honorable president and that in part is why they added the Electoral College as a Safety net.

      18. Peatro Giorgio says


        1. mrpoohead says

          You mean the Indian’s?

      19. Enchanted says

        Listen up. The organization that goes through the votes and will publish a report have found over 3 million illegals and 4 million dead people voting for your messiah. ( and the review is not completed). So don’t get all giddy that hil-liary won the popular vote. Her lap dog stein instead of finding more votes for hil-liary found massive fraud where clinton votes were counted six times for every ballot in MI.

      20. HopeforAmerica says

        Mona; I respectfully Disagree. First of all, Trump lost the popular vote by 2.8 million people. The Electoral College in my opinion is obsolete. Secondly, Regardless of how intelligent he is it does not mean he has the abilities, integrity or the temperament required to perform the job of POTUS successfully and for the good of the country. In fact, it is Trump’s own Actions that the entire world has witnessed is the very reason WHY the Electors are questioning his abilities in addition to whether or not he has become Pres-Elect without the assistance of Russia. Lastly, He does Scares the Hell out of me. He treats POTUS as if it were a second job, and although he talks about terrorists/ISIS.. he can’t take the time to daily security briefings! Wow… I bet ISIS is thrilled to hear that!!

      21. Leonce LaRouche says

        Ok you say that “People who think like him do keep ignoring the fact that the MAJORITY of Americans did not vote for Trump. If the roles were reversed and Trump lost the Electoral Collage. You’d be saying,what ever happened to every vote counts?” Let me remind you during the Mit Romney and the Obama election that was just the case in reverse, You L’ill Libbies got your wish and we the MAJORITY, got screwed, just like you seem to be bellyaching about now! BUT, the only difference is in this outcome, We Conservatives, the more reserved and in control of our animal instincts did not go out into the streets and destroy private property, burn cars, riot in the streets, threaten our Police and cause mayhem to other innocent people, all the while you were supposedly only exercising your 1st Amendment, because you were upset with the outcome! No don’t try to feed the B.S. like you’r doing to otherwise more in controlled people. You NINNIES, in which you are, are just upset because your most likely to not get ,all your free bees, and you like to color it all up with I’m scared of Trump! WELL TO HELL WITH YOU, suck it up butter cup and grow up, this country needs are more important than the free bees Clinton and Sanders promised you bunch of cry babies! Maybe if you were good maybe Trump will spring for an Executive order to buy Coloring Books and Crayons, and set up special Quiet Safe Rooms for you Snowflakes, while He hires Legal Concealed gun owners to guard you from the Boggy Man!

      22. jad says

        Well the reason Hillary won the popular vote primarily was from California being the most populated state in the country . Trump won the popular vote in 29 states which gives him the election if democrats voted more in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Florida Clinton would have won election. The facts are a lot of democrats voted for Trump or decided not to vote at all since they were disillusioned with democrat rigged primary against Bernie Sanders or they did not see positive economic future with Clinton as president in Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio or West Virginia since Clinton stated her plan to put Coal companies and coal miners out of work. Clinton Never did give a plan for more employment in rust belt states like Michigan and Wisconsin where people are hurting for jobs. No Mona not everyone is from California there are many reasons why Clinton lost one of which is most people if they are honest just do not like her.

    3. HopeforAmerica says

      Trump is causing this Himself! Repubs & Dems are watching TRump and basing their decision to Not vote for him based on Trump’s his Actions. Trump scares the Hell of me. He doesn’t know what he’s doing .. he’s going to get us All Killed … another 911 or War!

      1. mike says

        So you are saying you need a safe space and a pacifier.Grow up you little snowflake

        1. jug says


          1. Borninbrooklyn says

            Well, exactly what I was going to call him!

          2. John says

            make it a tu_d

        2. Arturo Robles says

          I’ve got your daughter’s pacifier right here & it’s big & juicy.

          1. mike says

            I don’t have a Daughter, So you can shove it in your big mouth fatty

          2. albaby2 says

            He’d have to spit it out before he could hive it to anyone because it isn’t his.

          3. mike says

            He has pervert written all over his ugly mug, I bet his mother makes him live in the basemaent

          4. ABO says

            Good place for him if there’s no prison cell available.

          5. mike says

            I would say the SPCA but I wouldn’t wish that on the poor dogs and cats that are there

          6. ABO says

            Got that right Mike.

          7. mike says

            How about a pig farm,They really stink and I think he would fit in perfectly. He can be the one who gets to shovel all the pig shit

          8. ABO says

            His own or the pigs’.

          9. Marianna Mansfeldova says

            No, he can show both pacifier in his huge fat a$$

          10. Lajos Markos says

            thank god for that you don’t have a daughter the pacifier is for you whinner

          11. mike says

            I hope you don’t have any spawn,You are one ugly dog.

          12. Marianna Mansfeldova says

            OMG Arturo Robles,look at you at your avatar, you look like fat ugly pedophile.

          13. ABO says

            Maybe that’s because he is exactly that!

        3. Marianna Mansfeldova says

          No Mike, is even worse, hopeforamerica needs his mommy tits

          1. mike says

            Yep,All eight of them. If that is how many a dog has

        4. Syl Oliver says

          So agree with you too

        5. Ray says

          Absolutely, look what we have had to put up with for eight years with POS Obummer with all the corruption in Washingtons cesspool of corruption.

      2. battue_you says

        You’re a snowflake aren’t you? You that day “Trump scares me or Trump terrifies me” are pathetic.
        Go to your safe space and cower.
        You people are probably afraid of your own shadow. Ha ha ha.

        1. psychosally says

          these are the kids of today(millennials) who had no input from their idiot(you can have anything you want) parents so all of their “knowledge” had to come from their socialist teachers

          1. battue_you says

            Sad isn’t it? so many parents too self absorbed to teach their “get” how to think for themselves and to teach them morals and personal accountability. Parents in name only.

        2. Arturo Robles says

          I’m afraid you’ll give me AIDS cause I fuck your ass so much & it gets bloody. You wish we were afraid you Trump shiteater bitch.

          1. John Conner says

            Ass is your only sex, no real woman would let you near her,,, well just the ones who $$$ ,,you sound very up to date on ass pounding.

          2. battue_you says

            What a faggot you are. You and your ilk are exactly what’s wrong with the world today. go crawl back under your momma’s skirt you coward.

      3. Julia says

        I’m sure you frighten more people who know you than he does you!

        1. callie jo freeman says

          I AGREE

        2. Arturo Robles says

          You’d lower your head just to smell Trump’s farts.

          1. John Conner says

            So far he’s done more a Pres. elect than the monkey has done in 8 years, golfing don’t count.

          2. Jan says

            I don’t re call ever having a president that started work before he was sworn in. On Obama and Michelle they both said they did not like their country so they have done what they could to tear it apart. Michelle said when Obama was sworn in that was the first time in her life she was proud of her country.

          3. albaby2 says

            I’m still not proud of Michelle.

          4. Mike with the Silver Star says

            albaby2…….Michelle who?

          5. albaby2 says

            No way could anyone mistake her for Michelle Malkin!

          6. pappy450 says

            You mean MICHAEL the tranny?

          7. albaby2 says

            Yep, that thing.

          8. Mike with the Silver Star says

            Jan; The president -elect works 17 hours a day…doesn’t smoke or drink, and it looks like he’s not afraid to go to work early…..He doesn’t play golf…He builds golf courses … lazy shits like Obama can play on them.

          9. ABO says

            I could never understand how O manages to play golf with no balls.

          10. Ray says

            I love it.

          11. Jan says

            I realize he did not or drink or anything else just I have never seen a president elect start work before being sworn into office but yet listen to all the crap the media is putting on him, I wanted a non career politician and sure glad he got it but I do believe he is going to have a lot of hard work ahead of him. Most of DC is going to see to that. The Dems kissed Obama’s a## the Rep I have to admit also did a good job of it being afraid of being called a racist, they all want him out because he wants to clean the swamp they are afraid of their cushey job may be a thing of the past. I sincerely want him to succeed, I am tired of the media and Hillary supporters of putting him down

          12. Ray says

            Roger that. And the American people are seeing this. Turn him lose on day two and he will be unstoppable. Congress and the Senate will be earning there money then.

          13. irish1919 says

            That’s mature .

          14. Julia says

            My only response to you is that you are too pitiful to warrant one!

      4. Freedom Rules says

        Go Sink Into Your Safe Space LibTARD !!! It’s Hillary Clinton That Was The Real Treat To All Americans… She Is A Fascist Nazi Communist Racist Witch With A “B” !!!

        1. Enchanted says

          You mean threat. LOL. she is no treat that is for sure.

          1. Arturo Robles says

            The treat is your mouth as it slurps & gags with my hard, juicy cock.

          2. says

            …and you are a Pervert that needs a visit from the authorities

        2. joe s says

          and still a pig.

        3. Arturo Robles says

          Eat your Trump shitburger & go to school, you zero ass loser. Looks like you missed a few grades.

        4. albaby2 says

          Looks like someone had “Hope for Americas” posts removed.

          1. ABO says

            We can only hope so.

          2. albaby2 says

            Can’t handle anyone elses opinions? Must be a Liberal.

          3. ABO says

            What are you talking about??? I’m agreeing with you. Maybe you should take a course in reading comprehension albaby.

          4. albaby2 says

            “We can only hope so” is not agreeing with me. It’s you that needs the reading comprehension class. I was referring to the comments that remained after the posts were removed. What is the sense in removing Hope for Americas posts but leaving the comments?

          5. ABO says

            HfA is nothing more than a paid liberal troll who contributes absolutely nothing genuine to the discussion. His only purpose is to push the liberal agenda which is what he is paid to do. I have no problem arguing a legitimate point with one who holds a truly legitimate position that differs from my own but simply allowing an obvious troll to take up huge amounts of space on a site like this one is completely nonsensical. Of course people are going to block him when it becomes obvious what he’s up to. He’s here as part of a very effective scam perpetrated by leftist elites like George Soros and you apparently have no problem with that. As far as me being a liberal, look back at your own posts in reference to this article and others and take a look at the up votes your comments have received. Look at them from here on and one of the regular up votes will be missing, now that I see what your position actually is.

          6. albaby2 says

            I have no idea what HFA’s posts consisted of as people like you have them deleted. Censor much?

          7. ABO says

            Try actually reading my above post! It is blatantly obvious that you respond without so much as bothering to read what you’re responding to.

          8. albaby2 says

            It is blatantly obvious that you could not see my logic in the wisdom of the removal of a post without the removal of replies to it. How is a person supposed to know what you are replying to? You call him a troll without allowing others to make their own assessment. You’re like the book burners of yore or a “government knows what’s best for you liberal”. or even worse, a religious nut. BTW, I don’t post for up votes so you can place them where the sun doesn’t shine.

          9. ABO says

            I DIDN’T BLOCK HIM. IDIDN’T SAY I BLOCKED HIM. YOU HAVE CONSISTANTLY IGNORED EVERYTHING I SAID IN MY RESPONSES AS YOU SIMPLY ASSUME YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW. IF THAT’S YOUR IDEA OF LOGIC THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO TAKE A REMEDIAL COURSE IN LOGIC AS WELL AS READING COMPREHENSION! What exactly does it take to get a simple point through that incredibly thick skull of yours Mr Know it All ??? I never said I blocked him nor did I block him. You just assumed I did based on absolutely no evidence to that effect. You seem to have all the qualities of the liberal trolls that post here with your utterly baseless accusations and childish name calling. A religious nut??? where the Hell did you think that one up. You just make things up as you go along and accuse and insult those you don’t even know and obviously haven’t bothered actually reading. Don’t you worry about ever getting an up vote from me. I don’t up vote myopic idiots like you!

          10. albaby2 says

            Oh my! All caps! I am frightrened!

          11. ABO says

            You should be frightened by your own abject stupidity. I don’t ever use all caps but it seems the last option to get my point through your thick skull. Try reading my post before you go off making up your abysmally moronic, baseless accusations.

          12. albaby2 says

            Oh boo hoo, you said some mean words to me.

          13. albaby2 says

            So you took it upon yourself to censor his posts before I had a chance to read them and felt you saved me from what? Why didn’t you have the replies deleted, they make no sense when taken out of context.

          14. ABO says

            Where did I say I censored his posts? You said someone apparently blocked him and I responded ” we can only hope” I did not block him. I did not say I blocked him. But you just make up your stupid little story assuming that I blocked him because that fits your agenda. Pathetic! Go post on HuffPo or media matters where they expect and accept that sort of behavior.

          15. albaby2 says

            You havent answered my question as to why a post should be deleted and the replies allowed to remain. They are out of context and meaningless without the deleted post

          16. ABO says

            I have told you several times that I did not block HfA and you have ignored that, saying that I did. You have absolutely nothing to back up your baseless accusations. Go play your sick little games somewhere else Dimwit.

          17. albaby2 says

            You must be trying to recruit visitors to Huffpo and MM. I would be doubling their readership.

          18. ABO says

            You sure do sound like a sick, twisted liberal to me. Just thought you’d be more comfortable there. You have consistently lied about me blocking HfA giving absolutely no evidence of it, spin and twist everything I say and ignore the points I make because you have no legitimate answer. Sure sound like a liberal troll to me.

          19. albaby2 says

            It’s a miracle! HFA’s post reappeared! Now I know what the discussion is about and can make my own judgements.

      5. Vassiliki says

        Obama is the one that sent this country in turmoil with all his progressive ideas and put a dark cloud over this country as well as funding the rebels in Syria ((who aren’t Syrian and the rise oF ISIS) and has created a mess in this world with muslim refugees and migration. He and Hillary has put the ME in turmoil with ousting Gaddafi out of Lybia and trying the same with Assad. I can’t wait till this race divider, globalist, inexperienced queer is out of here and takes his dark cloud with him! Trump is a fresh of breath air and I feel more secure and positive than the last 3 presidents!

        1. callie jo freeman says


          1. Linda says

            Not if the liberals Dens have their way!!!

          2. psychosally says

            they cant get their way-if they do you can kiss the libshits goodbye and we will inaugurate trump with only the survivors voting

          3. Arturo Robles says

            You might kill me if I get a powerful STD off your sorry ass!

          4. psychosally says

            you fat f/ker,lol,you couldnt find your own azz,but I never forget a face and if I ever see yours you’ll feel my foot up your azz-arturo,roflmao

          5. John Conner says

            STRANGE, how every commit you make is perverted.

          6. Tom Deitz says

            I agree, he’s a sad excuse for a human which ever side he’s on.

          7. doodaa says

            Sounds like a really sick bastard.

          8. albaby2 says

            You can verify that by clicking on his icon.

          9. johnnydow says

            Not strange at all. The most hate filled, anti-American, insane people are the loony lefties. They want everyone to be treated equally and fairly………….well except those patriotic, conservative, average people of faith. They should be rounded up and killed! That makes sense doesn’t it? How could you disagree?

          10. GODBlessRealAmerica says
          11. Mathew Molk says

            Agree with every one of the points except the use of “Liberal” ideology . It is COMMUNIST ideology that the opposition embraces and we vehemently oppose.

            DEATH TO THE NANNY STATE, DRAIN THE SWAMP and God bless President Trump.

          12. Mathew Molk says

            Hate to say it but I don’t.

            It is “Them” and not us that are always pushing us beyond the limits of good taste and violating the constitution and our laws. Since they cannot engage us in intelligent debate and only know how to make empty threats I guess getting rid of them is the only answer.

            Damn shame it has come to this in my free country.

          13. albaby2 says

            He didn’t sneak over the border, Mexico shoved him over.

          14. Mathew Molk says

            I blocked the clown. Are there no moderators here to screen these totally off topic and inflammatory assholes?

          15. harold4321 says

            So you admit that you are a rump humper.

          16. John Conner says

            Roger that.

          17. Arturo Robles says

            Dam straight!

          18. John Conner says

            You have molested in the past, its all over you face and words…little boys or girls?

          19. rfrichey says

            John, I think you nailed this pud perfectly. Talking about in need of a head transplant. How ugly and disgusting can one pos be?

          20. ABO says

            More likely pigs and goats. More his type.

          21. RTR says

            They won’t Linda “so let not your heart be troubled” the lefties are in what I hope is their last mode of panic, that America will very soon have sworn into office a man that knows how to lead and knows how to get things done. Rest assured also President Trump will not listen to anything the liberal, progressive, communists or whatever they are calling themselves today have to say.

            Left up to me we would deport everyone of these cry baby, snowflake, pacifier sucking, I need my crayons and coloring book and a safe place so I am able cry in my cornflakes to one of the hell holes these idiots along with Hussein were trying their best to turn the greatest nation the world has ever seen or ever will see into. .

          22. irish1919 says

            I believe that the left will not stop till he is sworn in, then they will constantly be a problem . I am hoping that in 2018 when Dems are protecting 25 seats in the senate they lose big time and give repubs 60+ seats in the senate. If they keep doubling down on their radical left wing agenda it very well could happen .

          23. Mathew Molk says

            Agree, but we have a hell of a lot of their RINO buddies to get rid of too.

          24. Chris Robinette says

            🙂 Please, RTR, let us know how you feel about the loser democraps.

          25. Mike with the Silver Star says

            RTR; Couldn’t have said it better, myself….OOOO RAH!

          26. John Conner says

            Our arms say they wont.

          27. JJ Duke says

            Yo better go get your crayons and play dow ready

          28. Chris Robinette says

            ain’t going to happen. Trump will be President.

          29. Mathew Molk says

            They lost, We won.

            DEATH TO THE NANNY STATE, DRAIN THE SWAMP. and God bless President Trump!

          30. Ray says

            Right on brother. We will LOCK and load if we have too.

        2. Arturo Robles says

          You’re full of shit. Your ma gave head all over the Middle East & gave birth to ISIS. They’re your brothers by way of some good “head.” My story is more believable, asshole. Read the statistics to see how Obama did as POTUS. STFU & eat your Trump shitburger.

          1. Serena says

            You are so vulgar – do everyone of favor and clean it up.

          2. Vassiliki says

            That was very uncalled for. I am going to block him and report him. You can do the same if you wish. You can flag him as well. I did both

          3. Serena says

            I’m not very techy – but I’m about to learn: How do I block him and flag him?
            He’s not just a troll – he is a filth machine.

          4. Vassiliki says

            look on the upper right corner of the person’s post you want to flag or block. There is an arrow, click on that and there is a choice to block or flag inappropriate. Let me know if you succeeded 🙂 Yeah, he was disgusting! I don’t care about not people seeing eye to eye and having a dialogue but this is just trashy. My sweet Mama passed away 8 1/2 years ago…still miss her.

          5. Serena says

            Thank you – I did both – blocked and flagged. His post disappeared.

          6. Vassiliki says

            Just like magic 🙂

          7. Serena says

            Ha Ha – felt good to see it go. That old saying: you learn something new every day.

          8. Nancy says

            Just flag him as inappropriate and block him. easy that gets rid of the problem

          9. Syl Oliver says

            Now to get rid of him and Stop him from being president too

          10. Merrit says

            Vulgar… but right!

          11. Serena says

            No – vulgar and clueless.

          12. Tom Deitz says

            I’m not sure he is mentally able too. He’s either really bored living in his boyfriends basement or he lacks basic communication skill’s needed to be a decent human.

          13. Serena says

            Or… all of the above! Liberalism – has become a bona fide mental illness.

          14. Vassiliki says

            My dear sweet mother passed away 8 1/2 years ago. Thank you for being such an ass and not knowing what you speak of. By the size of your head it must be full of hot air or shit.

          15. ABO says

            My guess would be the latter Vassiliki.

          16. John Conner says

            Very sick man, go back in your mothers basement and stay off her P.C.

          17. Mike with the Silver Star says

            Arturo; I’ll tell you how Obama did, He doubled our debt to 21 trillion from 10 trillion…….Now go shoot yourself in the head with a 7.65 nato round for being stupid

          18. ABO says

            Or a 5.56 Nato for being a disgusting fat slob.

        3. Serena says

          Perfect post Vassiliki! Cannot wait for him to be sworn in. It is the will of the people and more importantly – it is the WILL OF GOD!!!

        4. Monica says

          Vassiliki agree with you 100%. Very important about Trump he doesn’t need our money because he has money; and he is going to work for the people.

          1. Vassiliki says

            Thank you and you are right about the money, he also doesn’t need fame or prestige as well…he already has that. While Obama an uneducated nobody is now walking away with millions after destroying our country.

          2. Ray says

            That’s the damn truth.

      6. Bratt77 says

        Oh he knows exactly what hes doing. You are not the one who should be afraid. The political RINO’s who have been stealing from the people for years and years should though. And they are.

        1. callie jo freeman says


      7. GraceW says

        Did anyone ever tell you you’re an idiot? Let me be the first of many. You are just another cry baby Commiecrat intent on the Commiecrat anarchy going on right now.

        1. callie jo freeman says


        2. ABO says

          Oh, he’s been told Grace, by many. Myself included on several occasions. He just doesn’t posses the mental capacity to see it.

      8. Mt Native says

        Do you seriously believe what you have posted? If so you are some kind of stupid. If there is another 911 it will fall directly on obummer’s head because of his belief that ISIS is the JV team and we have them on the run. The person who would have gotten a number of Americans killed would have been klinton – she would have had her finger on the button and really wanted to start a nuclear war with Russia. Just be thankful that someone with a brain won the election. President-elect Trump is going to do whatever he can to prevent any more large scale terrorist attacks on US soil. Unfortunately obummer has “invited” so many terrorists into this country with his refugee program that had no way to vet any of those let in, most of whom were 20-30 year old single men. Very few women and children and NO Christians at all. klinton would have doubled or tripled those numbers had she won the White House. Now that scares the H E L L out of me.

        1. John says

          Obama has let enough terrorists out of Gitmo to scare the hell out of me! ANY American should NOT be afraid of President Elect Trump.

          1. callie jo freeman says


          2. Merrit says

            You people (sic) are truly deplorable; you can’t even recognize a narcicist when you see one!

          3. ABO says

            My goodness you are truly as thick as a brick. Several have told you that we do indeed recognize BHO but you still don’t comprehend. Your endless stupidity is abysmal. Of course you’re a liberal in good standing so that explains it.

        2. callie jo freeman says


        3. Merrit says

          Well, you’re certainly in the minority (Thank God!) RE: Popular vote.

          1. Mt Native says

            I don’t think so (Thank God) RE: Popular vote – take away all of the illegal immigrants that obama TOLD to vote and assured them they wouldn’t get into any trouble. Unless you are a LEGAL citizen of this country you are NOT allowed to vote in the presidential election, you can only vote in local and state elections. But then California is a whole other country as far as I am concerned and I hope they do secede from the United States. We don’t need them.

          2. Merrit says

            Come on, use your brain (if you have one!) If there were that many illegal immigrants, don’t you think they’d be drawn out and arrested? .. at least a few of them. Fact – definition – lookit up.

          3. Mt Native says

            I do have a brain, thank you very much. Of course they wouldn’t be arrested. California is one big sanctuary state, that is why there are so many illegal immigrants living there. Case in point – Kate Steinle was killed by an illegal immigrant who had been deported 5 times. He was in custody in San Francisco and even though Immigration Control and Enforcement wanted him the authorities in San Francisco refused to hold him for pickup. They let him out and he shot and killed an innocent young woman.

          4. Merrit says

            I’m sorry; I didn’t mean illegal immigrants, I meant illegal voters. I’m not saying there aren’t any; but there sure as hell aren’t 3 million (who ALL voted for Hillary, as Trump is spouting in keeping with his pathological lying). Also, sorry about the brain comment whereas I put myself at Trump’s level.

          5. Mt Native says

            Well I include illegal immigrants in the illegal voter catagory. I do agree with you though on the possible numbers being inflated but seriously inflating numbers isn’t something new. The democrats do it and don’t leave out the news media who greatly inflated poll numbers. Personally I don’t consider Trump a “pathological” liar at all, Clinton on the other hand has been caught in so many lies over her 30 plus political career that I would label her the “pathological” liar. Unfortunately that is what politicians do. As smart as Trump is you shouldn’t feel bad about putting yourself at his level. He is just much different than what we have had in the political world because he isn’t a politician. I do hope that you will give him a chance. I admit there are things about him that I don’t care for but I am more than willing to give him a chance. He might surprise you and if not then he can be replaced in 4 years.

          6. ABO says

            I see you make a habit of proving your sad state of dementia to all who will listen. Good job, we’re all impressed with your amazing lack of even basic intellect and your inability to think for yourself. Keep up the good work!

          7. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan says

            Thanks to Oldbummer there are any number of sanctuary cities. He allowed them to come in and gave them bus tickets to anywhere they wanted to hide. How cool is that? NOT!!! Now they are hiring immigration lawyers who are defending them for free.

          8. ABO says

            This from a brainless liberal lemming who has shown himself to be totally incapable of independent critical thought. Wow.

      9. Peatro Giorgio says

        You sound like just one more progressive troll who hasn’t a clue that the party you’ve supported your entire life has an is screwing you an will continue to do so. Just as they had done with Bernie. I’m happy Trumps genuine stance on the Constitution is scaring the hell out of you.

        1. callie jo freeman says


        2. mrpoohead says

          Both parties supported by same industrial groups and conglomerates – it’s a plutocracy! Who is in is immaterial.

      10. Helga miller says

        Hope, this is a really dumb comment! Have you been listening to Michael Moore too much? Our next President loves this Country which is a welcome change from the current one. He is choosing the Best and Brightest for his administration and he is already getting things done. Obama didn’t know anything when he became President and he never held a real job unlike most of the American workers. He surrounded himself with the same type of people which was devastating for the Country. BTW, Obama has been agitating for a war not Mr Trump, he is not even in office yet!

        1. Arturo Robles says

          Trump will have your Jewish Germ ass you asshole. Where are your facts? Bullshit. Just watch what shit Trump does. You talk out your ass, Helga Hitler.

          1. Helga miller