Professors Say Campus Carry is a Threat to Free Speech, Judge Says Otherwise

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University of Texas Professors Jennifer Lynn Glass, Lisa Moore, and Mila Carter filed suit against the state of Texas last week, claiming that by allowing students to carry firearms at their school and other college campuses, the state had created a situation where freedom of speech was in jeopardy.

Developing the lawsuit out of common left-wing punditry, the professors argued that if students were allowed to walk around with guns, it would lead to all sorts of chilling effects. As one of the professors put it, the “possibility of the presence of concealed weapons in a classroom impedes my and other professors’ ability to create a daring, intellectually active, mutually supportive, and engaged community of thinkers.” Which is the laborious way to say, We’ll be too afraid of gun-totin’ conservatives to tell them how stupid they are in the liberal think-tanks we call college classrooms.

Now, perhaps someone should have reminded Glass, Moore, and Carter that the “possibility of the presence of concealed weapons” already existed before the Texas State legislature passed a law permitting concealed carry on college campuses. Seeing as how, if no one KNOWS you’re carrying a gun, there’s not much anyone can do about it. And while, yes, law-abiding students may now feel more comfortable packing heat, those really aren’t the ones you need to worry about, are they? But liberals are determined to ignore this logic. Always have been, always will be.

In any event, District Judge Lee Yeakel dismissed the lawsuit, saying the professors were unable to produce any “concrete evidence to substantiate their fears” and that they had built the case on nothing more than “mere conjecture.” In other words, these sad academics have never seen a gun in real life and are basing a court case out of some nightmare scenario they saw in a movie or read in the pages of the Huffington Post.

Or, to give them a little more credit, they’re afraid of a college shooting, the likes of which we’ve seen in Virginia, Oregon, and elsewhere. But even then, we’re back to the legal permit aspect of the Texas law. If a student is basing his decision to bring a gun on campus on whether or not he’s legally entitled to do so…that’s not the kid you need to fear. That’s the kid, in fact, that you might want around should the aforementioned nightmare scenario happen to unfold.

276 Comments
  1. Retired says

    Another looney Professor speaks out , did Bloomberg pay him for this???

    1. Michael Dennewitz says

      No, soros is most likely paying the professors to teach our kids and grandkids this shit!???

      1. Retired says

        I would trust Neither One on the other side of a glass door .

    1. SUZANNE M. says

      HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM………..

    2. Andy says

      It is interesting how a liberal will judge someone, and convict them with out any facts, put it on TV and then say that is okay because we have freedom of speech. They don’t even consider the damage they do to a person as long as their ego is met. They are extremely self centered and need some therapy.

      1. rdells says

        Hmmm. You aren’t judging are you?

        1. Joseph C Moore USN Ret says

          Judgement, discernment, et al are missing from the liberal vox populi. Those words are not permitted in their closed minds.

    3. Andy says

      Just what I have observed over the years. Have many old (60+ years)college friends who observed the same. I understand that our words affect many people. In regards to my note, if the shoe does not fit, throw it away. Just trying to get people to think and be considered of others. The US has such beauty and a wonderful place to live.

    1. GODBlessRealAmerica!!! says

      MAP OF EVERY STATE PRESIDENT TRUMP WON WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO 8 YEARS BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d91e391c61ac0b9c4f5f781830b29dd879f4a65eae524706bb17baa0b2f46e5.jpg

      1. EnjoyzCoffee says

        Factor in voter fraud and you probably have an all red map (yes, even California). Illegal voters have swung those states. Liberals are the vast minority.

      2. Kool Nightes says

        Not Trump ….. Putin…. he is a RED state too.
        Another thing… you take the state of North Dakota… it has a population of less than San Francisco.,, and the other Middle Northern states is just as bad… so it is not states won…. that counts… it is the people voting for you… that is the peoples choice… not the bought and paid for electoral votes

        1. Joseph Carrilho says

          What about the bought and paid for illegal votes, and votes from the dead?

          1. Robert Dostoevsky says

            What about them? How about a few facts. (Or were you just collecting upvotes?)

        2. Mike with the Silver Star says

          So Obama was bought and paid for,too????

          1. Rodney Steward says

            He was Soros’s BOY, paid for and owned!

        3. catman says

          You are dead wrong bubba. The electoral college was designed to keep our leadership from being selected by the big cities and to give the ENTIRE country population a voice. Otherwise New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, and a few other big cities would dictate who our leadership would be.
          I for one don’t need liberals in the big cities telling me who will be our leaders. We in the hinderlands need our voice heard too. Look at the those big cities and tell me they are being run in a manner that benefits every one there. There is more crime and corruption there than all the rest of the country combined and that comes from FBI facts.

          1. AmazeTech says

            Did you notice that gotabgood and Kool Nightes have the same avatar? Both need blocking. They are probably the same person/thing/it.

        4. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

          The reason we have Senators as well as Representatives is so we don’t have MOB RULE (majority take all)

      3. Mike says

        would you please stop your ignorance and stop showing this map.it is not a map of the 2016 election. there are plenty that show the actual results online stop being so uneducated and lazy to show the wrong map.

        1. nocbsfan says

          Really ticks you off to see all those red states doesn’t it ? LOLOL Weeeeeee

          1. Mike says

            not at all. in fact the correct map would have more red states. i.just can’t stand the laziness of this poster who cannot even post the actual election map.

    2. gotcha1 says

      Nice try nitwit! There was no Concealed Carry on campus then!

      1. Francisco Machado says

        Nearly all multiple casualty shooting incidents involve a Left oriented (if not actually registered Democrat) shooter. The most effective gun fatality behavior the Left Wing could riot about would be demanding that leftists not be permitted possession of guns, but I suppose that would be rather pointless – since Leftists believe that laws are for the control of others, not themselves.

      2. AmazeTech says

        gotabgood needs to be blocked every time he/she/it shows up.

    3. Bryan says

      Shootings at schools that are gun free zones since 2013.

      Thanks for posting the map.

    4. Francisco Machado says

      Given the sociopolitical orientation of the majority of the shooters, those dots would more appropriately be colored blue. To illustrate the effectiveness of laws against carrying an effective defensive weapon, how many of those incidences occurred where guns were not permitted on campus? Laws and regulations don’t stop people who intend to break laws, they actually protect them against the probability of an effective countermeasure.

    5. EMIRCITNA says

      HOW ABOUT the ability to STOP the insane in their tracks by their would be victims!!!!

    6. mac12sam12 says

      Like the school shooting at Virginia Tech by a registered democrat that killed 32 people? Guns and liberals make poor bedfellows.

    7. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

      Criminals will always have weapons even though GASP it is illegal for them to have. See Chicago on any given day.

      Patriots that want to utilize their second amendment rights and the government limiting of through concealed carry are not the school shooters. They may one day save your life!

      1. gotabgood says

        There is something you people on the right FAIL to realize, it is NOT the criminals doing the mass shootings!!!!!! Some are students themselves, most are young adults. And none have a criminal record until they became a murderer, but it seems all had a mental disorder…. shame we don’t have one of these wherever you buy guns!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8fbadb0acf5f43c98f3436de679c72e7861fd714559a34008520d7d92acf5bf5.jpg

        1. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

          As a Nation we need to do more to care for and house the mentally ill. Teaching kids that there are other ways of solving disputes helps also. Actively monitoring children and young adults on these ADD, ADHD and other mental health drugs is necessary too. I don’t believe these things happen in a vacuum. People need to speak up and report issues and threats. Young adults need to be monitored also especially around the age of 23 due to schizophrenia illness.

          That doesn’t change the fact that criminals DO and will always have weapons. People that respect and have training should be allowed a weapon to protect themselves and others.

    8. GODBlessRealAmerica!!! says
  2. John Freese says

    This is crazy. These libtards will go to any length to put limitations on our freedom. What’s the matter? Afraid your beloved antifa will stop disrupting free speech with violence? Too bad. Is that your idea of free speech?????? Really? REALLY?????????? You are being childish, foolish and pathetic. Not to mention treasonous. The Second Amendment IS A RIGHT. Free speech IS A RIGHT. Violence to stop free speech IS NOT a right. And Antifa has attacked people, burned businesses and cars, raped and stopped speakers from coming to colleges. So has Black Lives Matter. Now, they will have to show the same respect they want to get from others. Live and let live is what they will now have to follow. IT”S ABOUT TIME!!!!!

    1. Medic RN says

      Awesome John! I vote for you!

    2. SUZANNE M. says

      I REALLY IS AMAZING HOW THESE COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE SO UNEDUCATED ABOUT FREE SPEECH. THEY DON’T EVEN SEE HOW THE LIBERAL PROFESSORS ARE BRAINWASHING THEM THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO THINK CRITICALLY….HELLO, SOCIALISM……THEY REALLY ARE SO IGNORANT, THEY DESTROY THE VERY THING THEY ASPIRE TO …..MONEY.

      1. firehawk69 says

        They are dumb as rocks…heh heh heh!

    3. Rodney Steward says

      Super great comment John, but I caught a piece on the news where the thugs of the Antifa said they needed to arm themselves to be much stronger! Things might get much worse before getting better, and who’s to blam for a lot of this, SCHOOLS and these Socialist Professors!

      1. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

        Dems and Unions too… They haven’t been FOR the people for 50 or more years. They are all about power, control, separating into hateful little factions and crying victim hood. They believe they are above the law!

      2. John Freese says

        I saw. But it would mean their end

        1. Rodney Steward says

          Amen to that my friend!! 🙂

    4. marshmil1789 says

      I think of Amendment II as an obligation more than a right. We are under obligation to protect ourselves and the nation using brute force if necessary. The “right of the people to keep and bear arms” is part of the “well-regulated militia”.

      1. John Freese says

        It is a right. Get over it. Read the “Federalist papers”, written by the Founding Fathers before they wrote the Constitution. Also read Thomas Jefferson. “All citizens should be armed as well as the army and No man shall be disbarred a firearm” That proves they meant it as an individual right, to be used in a Militia. And for your information, according to the Constitution, “Every able bodied man between the ages of 17 and 45” by Constitutional Law, already belong to the militia. LOOK IT UP!

        1. marshmil1789 says

          “Get over it.” “And for your information,…” Why do you post such hateful, uncivil wording? You are likely a liberal. If that is your attitude toward one of the We the People, “e pluribus unum”, then don’t respond to anything I post here again. I’ve better things to read than hateful commentaries.

          1. John Freese says

            I am NO LIBERAL. Or don’t you remember libs hate guns. I am a Constitutionalist. I voted republican. I voted Trump. I am not hateful. I am very passionate about following the Constitution. You have a very thin skin. I meant no harshness, but, that is the way I talk. I am blunt. And I don’t apologize for it. And all the First Ten Amendments are rights. God given rights that the Constitution reminds us of.

          2. marshmil1789 says

            If you ARE a conservative then allow me to recommend you display civility in your posting. Your attitude comes across like the ghetto level scum of the left.

          3. John Freese says

            Redneck mean anything to you? I hate political correctness. And you are being arrogant. If I were that bad I would be F-this and f- you. i don’t. I am brash yes. Too bad. But, what would you rather? Brashness or being a fake? At least with me, you know where I stand and that you will get a strait answer.

          4. marshmil1789 says

            Time for another block party. We conservatives do not need your kind. You are now blocked. The gate is closed.

          5. John Freese says

            Snob

          6. John Freese says

            You ever read the Bible? Read the parable about the priest and the tax collector.

          7. John Freese says

            I’ll give you a hint. I’m the tax collector. and, honestly, if war does break out, you will need my kind of conservative. We won’t need your PC kind. Just like a Liberal. Looking down on others.

          8. John Freese says

            I do admit one thing though. The Second Amendment is a right. And because of that, yes, I give it to you, because it is a right we are “obligated” to be armed. I gave it some thought. Obligation should be the way we look at all rights in the Constitution. Because they are rights, it is the way we should look at all of them.

          9. John Freese says

            i replied already, but I don’t see it here. So I will write again. I am NO LIBERAL. You are the one with thin skin. I am passionate about the Constitution. Libtards hate the Second Amendment. I love all the first 10 Amendments. I am a very passionate Constitutionalist. And I am very blunt. I am NOT politically correct. And I do NOT apologize for it. You seem to be. And you seem to be very sensitive. Grow a thicker skin. You need it when debating and talking to such a wide variety of people.

          10. John Freese says

            And I voted for Trump.

          11. marshmil1789 says

            Good for you. Now act like it.

  3. Mary Muennig says

    RE: “. . . impedes my and other professors’ ability to create a daring, intellectually active, mutually supportive, and engaged community of thinkers.” :
    Please excuse me, but I strongly disagree–no it doesn’t (no it does not–I don’t think so). That’s ridiculous! It’s our right, as American citizens, to be able to do that. And there are rules that govern doing so. I read an article on line, earlier this year about a shooting that happened by a man coming into a school and a cadet literally gave his life–taking the bullets–to save others (it very briefly gave others some time to get the evil person who was doing the shooting). If some of those students would have been licensed concealed to carry individuals it would have been a different type of story. And that’s all I want to say about that.

    1. Julie Adams says

      Same thing with all those other school shootings and any other “gun-free” zones. Someone could have shot the Colorado theatre shooter before he killed all those people. Criminals who have been caught before they were killed admit that they chose the place where it specifically was a gun-free zone. Guns would be a hindrance to these loons.

  4. gotcha1 says

    Liberal College Professors are the major threat to free speech. If you don’t think so try and debate them, you lose! Our kids are being brainwashed by these wackos! These professors are virtually untouchable because of “Tenure”. It may be better to send your children to technical schools where they can learn a trade and support themselves their whole life.

    1. EnjoyzCoffee says

      Agreed!

    2. pineapple says

      I went to a technical school, where professors taught the subjects that students came there to learn. We were not indoctrinated by professors with political agendas.

      1. bluewarrior13 says

        Ditto! My carer span was 41 years from technical training and I retired very comfortably and I didn’t have a large college loan to pay back.

        1. rick meek says

          DC defunded Vo-Tech’s…..in favor of colleges…..Dear Dobbs – The informed KNOW what’s going on – just keep reporting on the facts – Comey is getting millions for throwing law enforcement and people under the bus for his buddies – McCain is getting his and it isn’t the VA or obozocare – MSM is getting theirs for their help to destroy the US and keep the morons in power – Lefties are getting their funding from soros and his buddies to do nothing but attack working people – etc…….Make’em do community service as part of their degree programs and scholarships – Peace Corps duty in Iraq – Afghan – Syria – Venezuela – Cuba and other places will wake them up to JUST HOW GOOD THE US IS…….

          1. John J. Mulhall says

            Bravo Rick!!!

          2. A. Jay says

            Couldn’t have said it any better!!

          3. Sapperboy says

            AND….spank them when they throw their entitled, snowflake tantrums.

          4. A_Nobody says

            Well said…except technical training at a higher level is also from junior colleges…..and yes, we need to go back to vo-tech in high schools.

      2. RsGoat says

        Good to know Some technical schools have not fallen. You should have given them a plug to show support for a school that is doing the right thing!

        1. Joseph Slabaugh says

          I am not under the impression that technical schools are political at all. But what I wanted to learn is not taught in a technical school. And I just had my BBA graduation celebration the other day. And yes, sometimes I disagreed with the professors, but all in all, I graduated with a 3.39 GPA, and as a guy that only had a 4th grade Amish education and a GED, I am happy with that.

          1. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Congratulations! You definitely worked hard to achieve that.

          2. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Oh I am happy I got that education, it is just that I could not get a decent job with that “4th grade” education. Its not that I am not smart, it is just that I was not given the same oppertunities I should be able to get with a “degree”. I have run my own business for years, and made good money in the past, but in order to prove myself to some employers, they need to see a degree, so I went ahead and did that too. It is ironic, really, that I had to do that, but hey, I did it. I am an online marketer, so, I figured, if I need a degree, I might as well go for it, and get something that I know how to do: run a business.

          3. marshmil1789 says

            Joseph you are living THE AMERICAN DREAM by way of Amish beginnings. You are an inspiration. You should be teaching ethics in a university to counter the evil junk being spewed from the mouths of the less-well-prepared-for-life academicians we have in overabundance. : )

          4. Joseph Slabaugh says

            🙂 Feel free to add me on FB.

          5. Emory King says

            Joeseph Slabaugh, I live near A large Amish community in N. eastern Ohio and I have never seen an unemployed Amishman.

          6. Michael Dennewitz says

            I was born in Gallipolis, Ohio and raised in Akron. Those amish people had their acts together buddy. ? My mother, RIP, ALWAYS bought our fruits and veggies from those blessed amish people!! ?

          7. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Heh, ya… I lived in Ohio too. My dad worked for my uncle for 50 a day at his saw mill, while he raised us, and I was the youngest of his 11 kids. That must be why my Mom also had side jobs like growing 10,000 strawberry plants, and butchering a few 100 chickens a day for clients, which all of us helped do. Another thing she did was quilt for money, and raise a few puppies. It is propably this that helped me become the business man I am today.

          8. evangelinebrabant says

            The Amish community does not extend that education opportunity to women and girls.

          9. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Really? Then HOW/WHY were several girls injured in the one and only Amish schoolhouse shooting years ago?

            Even 40 + years ago on a school trip to Pennsylvania Dutch country we observed one room school houses that taught girls and boys. Women were also allowed to WORK, outside the home in the community and at the general store and visitors centers.

          10. marshmil1789 says

            I observed same MyRose when I visited there twelve years ago. They are a happy, congenial “family” of people. The young girls have clean, pretty faces not painted up with Max Factor and Revlon with added tattoos and metal devices hanging from their lips, ears and nose.

          11. Mathew Molk says

            Check out Yoder’s restraint a little ways East of Burton, Ohio. All Amish women cooks and waitresses and the chow is O-U-T-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G !

          12. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Thanks, if I ever get back east I will

          13. marshmil1789 says

            So what! They have a wonderful wholesome Christian community. Feminism is not welcomed. So put that in your smoke and pipe it.

          14. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Here is my reply to the person you are responding to:

            They all have education till 8th grade. See Yoder Vs Wis. I have mixed feelings about that, on the one hand, their education is more thorough, but on the other hand, no employer will hire you based on an 8th grade education. As I said previously, I only got to finish the 4th grade as my family moved out of that area in 1990, so I did not get to finish school.

          15. marshmil1789 says

            You’ve done well Joseph to adjust to the “English” ways. Hope it wasn’t too shocking. 🙂 Now sew some seeds of Amish goodness among us “English”.

          16. Michael Dennewitz says

            A M E N !!

          17. marshmil1789 says

            Thanks Michael. The nation can use some traditional Amish
            values. Especially the family type. May God abundantly pour out His Blessings upon the Amish…and permit some of their culture to “leak” over to us “English”.

          18. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            The Amish and others like them will survive when the grid collapses.

            Snowflakes coast to coast will commit suicide after 3 days without their phones/games/selfies…

          19. Mathew Molk says

            You might want to go to Middlefield Ohio and check out the situation there. Like Emery says. There is no such thing as an unemployed Amishmen. I have worked on a ton of jobs next to winkies and they are just like any other skilled tradesmen. Some are great and some are not worth a shit but unlike a lot of us “English” they are on the job and working from whistle to whistle 6-days a week while the young collage boys think a full time job is 3 out of 5, 2 with a hangover. I’ll take a guy that went to Amish schools to the millennial snow flake types any time. And besides the Amish guys are easier to get along with and tell better jokes. All I ever worked with are true team players and a pleasure to work with. .

          20. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Thats great! I do wish them all well. I am glad I lived it, and I am glad to be on the outside. It gives me a perspective that few have.

          21. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            I’m only surprised by the ‘tell great jokes’ part because I view them as deeply religious and dedicated to the community, so perhaps a few puns but nothing off color…

          22. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Ehhh, they all have education till 8th grade. See Yoder Vs Wis. I have mixed feelings about that, on the one hand, their education is more thorough, but on the other hand, no employer will hire you based on an 8th grade education. As I said previously, I only got to finish the 4th grade as my family moved out of that area in 1990, so I did not get to finish school.

          23. Mathew Molk says

            How do the guys get all the jobs in factories around Middlefield then. – Most prefer Amish applicants. Different Ordenung maybe?

          24. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Actually, yes, that is a different sect, but I do have relatives in that area. Some sects actually allow public schools, unlike the one I came from.

          25. marshmil1789 says

            Perfectly stated MyRose.

          26. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Thanks 🙂

          27. RsGoat says

            What I Know is from the people I meet coming out of these institutions and even more the news where the student’s create so much havoc having been taught incorrectly about our government. Yes there are good institutions out there but as has been demonstrated out at Berkeley the bad ones can cause a lot of damage. The wake up call needs to go out to these strong liberal institutions moderation and both sides! They have he future of our country in their hands and it is not up to them you or me do decide how it will be. Sitting here or you there we have no say but those teaching can hijack a nation while we sleep and have our heads turned if we want them to or not. One day these same teachers can feed those student’s the knowledge and ideas that will seal your fate in ways you will scream to be released from! We either address this now or wait until it is too late! Do you want to find out how bad it can get when it is too late? In Africa they found out that meant some nut case taught their children they could form an army then take half the continent before they were stopped! Read up on them if you want to see the kind of damage they did. It was horrifying even to the child survivors’.

          28. Joseph Slabaugh says

            If the SHTF, I do think the Amish will be better prepared than most others…

          29. marshmil1789 says

            Interesting you say that Joseph. Two days ago I was considering that if the “grid” system is shut down the Amish would keep right on. Think about that.

          30. Joseph Slabaugh says

            There are Amish groups who are heavily dependant on the tourist industry, as they make money off of it, but even so, I think they will revert to their roots and help each other out if something like that would come to set us all back.

          31. marshmil1789 says

            I recall a wonderful Sunday afternoon lunch at an Amish place in Lancaster, Pennsylvania weekend of July 4, 2005.
            Actually the food was very like “Southern Cooking” here in Georgia.

          32. Joseph Slabaugh says

            I was in Atlanta last weekend (I currently live in TN) for my graduation. I gave two of the guys my cookbook, and the security guards, I spoke to them about how to make money online. Hopefully I can help them lift their financial siduation. They both want to start making videos about fitness.

          33. marshmil1789 says

            I was born in Atlanta, grew up one mile from the Atlanta Airport. My Father grew up 26 miles South of the Amish people in Pennsylvania.

          34. Joseph Slabaugh says

            The hotel we stayed at was a former Howard Johnson, and was being renovated. I saw the pics online, but was not expecting this much of a dump. It was cheap, but they had constant problems with the elevator and no WiFi anywhere other than the lobby. A few times I had to use the stairs up 6 levels to get to my room. But I got the 2 guards on my FB list. They were nice, as was the manager.

          35. marshmil1789 says

            I avoid “downtown” Atlanta now. Have not been there in about 12 years. I live 15 miles West. Atlanta was a wonderful place up to around the mid-1960s. From the 1940s through the 1950s Atlanta was a safe place. Now
            it is inhabited by “Chicago” types. People with “civility” avoid it. Otherwise sorry you had a bad experience with the accommodations. You would have loved Atlanta of the 1940s and 1950s.

          36. Joseph Slabaugh says

            I am not sure if this is “downtown” or not, but it was within 30 minutes of the graduation event at the GA World Congress Center. It was taken over by a guy that is rebranding it to Knights Inn. I wish him well in that, as it looks like one hell of a job to redo that dump’s image.

          37. marshmil1789 says

            You were about 18 miles from me. Too bad I didn’t know you were coming or I’d have rented a horse with buggy and taken you on a tour. Ha. The two kinds of horses I saw at Lancaster were the Belgian (similar to but smaller than the Clydesdale) as a work horse for plowing and mowing and an “all purpose” for pulling the buggies. I’m a great admirer of horses.

          38. marshmil1789 says

            You were 16 miles East of me and you were “DOWNTOWN” on the West side of downtown. The area where you found the run-down Howard Johnson is actually in a dying area of Atlanta. Not going into detail but since the 1960s the demographic changes in Atlanta have resulted in most of Atlanta going downhill. Most people are moving out 20 to 40 miles away. I’m looking to move too. I like living in an area similar to what the Amish community looks like up in PA.

          39. Joseph Slabaugh says

            I think the future does not look to kindly on the idea of “cities,” but rather on communities.

          40. marshmil1789 says

            Isn’t it interesting that Jesus of Nazareth avoided Jerusalem most of the time. He and the boys spent most of their time up in Galilee.

          41. Joseph C Moore USN Ret says

            Congratulations, Joseph Slabaugh. You are doing well I surmise, largely because of your Amish heritage of self reliance. Continue this in life.

          42. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Thanks, and yes, I do live my life as simply as possible, though a large part of my life as an internet marketer is of course the Net, so I have to have that. But it has let me market my Amish cookbook and other stuff online to make a living for my family.

          43. marshmil1789 says

            Please post for me the title of your Amish cookbook.

          44. Joseph Slabaugh says

            http://www.amish.co Yoders Country Cooking. It has my Mom on the cover, and she is 80 now, and has dementia, but she has had a full life.

          45. marshmil1789 says

            Thank you Joseph. I hope your posting here boosts sales of your book. I pray the best for your Mom. God bless you, family and the Amish communities everywhere. 🙂

          46. evangelinebrabant says

            The Amish are the worst Puppy Mill providers in the country, if not the world. Thousands of dogs, kept in filthy cages, the females producing continuously until they can’t get pregnant anymore, then slaughtered.

            Puppy Mills are unbelievable horrible places, but the Amish are well known for the magnitude of the horror they create in their community.

            The Amish regard the dogs as livestock, and treat them that in ways that many farmers would not treat their livestock farm animals. It is a horrible, frightening, disgusting dark side of the Amish that people recoil from when they learn, and see pictures.

            Dogs are one of the most amazing animals on earth, and since I learned the truth about the Amish, I know they are among the most horrible. (Not to mention the way they treat women,)

          47. Joseph C Moore USN Ret says

            You are imposing an unearned ill on Joseph Slabaugh. Painting all with the same brush is a tactic of the leftists. How about concern for the Muslim influx to create a world caliphate. That is a fact, not a personal opinion. I do agree that inhumane treatment of animals is a horror that must be ended. We are all G-d’s creatures.

          48. Joseph Slabaugh says

            My mom raised a few dogs for extra money. Not surprising, as she had 11 kids, and I was the youngest of them. But I never witnessed my family mistreat animals.

          49. marshmil1789 says

            Negative, negative, negative negative! You leftists are all alike ms. brabant. I can see you now visiting an Amish community with your camera and notebook going all over the territory taking pictures of cow, horse and chicken manure so you can document how nasty the Amish people are. And let me guess— you’re an atheist. Have a good week.

          50. Joseph Slabaugh says

            I have actually never witnessed that. I have heard of it happening, but my Mom raised a few dogs for a little extra money, but we never kept them in cages. I now have a Toy Fox Terrior that I got from an Amish family. She is a very loving dog. In fact, she would not let me sleep tonight, as she missed me when I was at my graduation.

          51. marshmil1789 says

            Pets can be unbelievably faithful and loving. I’m a cat lover. Have three. One is 13 years old and two, a brother and sister are one year old. They are like “children” for me.

          52. Michael Dennewitz says

            Where did that bullshit come from?? B L O C K E D !???

          53. Mathew Molk says

            They are farmers and puppies are no different livestock to them then cattle or chickens. You need a little more exposure to the real world there ‘brat.

            I am not a farmer and have an outstanding German Sheppard and 2 cats and they treat ME like livestock, but just because my way is not the Amish way is no reason to bad rap the Amish. – Gooks in this country buy dogs to slaughter them to eat you know. Why not get on their asses?

          54. Bunny says

            evangelinebrabant – Really? Have you see what the Chinese do to dogs & cats?
            Have you seen the abuse animals go through right here?
            Have you seen how Muslim men treat women?
            Wake up, demons are everywhere.

          55. marshmil1789 says

            Good for you Joseph Slabaugh. I’ve visited the Lancaster, PA Amish community. I love the Amish. Could not adjust to that lifestyle but I admire the people. I wish the rest of the USA could adopt the work ethic and mutual helpfulness of the Amish. When I’ve been asked about how I liked the Amish people I’ve literally answered with, “I admired and loved them so much I wanted to bring several home with me.” I wish you the best and assume you are now making your home with the “English”. Wish you were nearby here so you could teach me and some of my acquaintances about good Amish living. Take care friend. Best to you. God Bless you and family.

          56. Joseph Slabaugh says

            I currently live in TN, but feel free to add me on FB. It will take a few weeks for my FB jail to be over, as I tried to help some orphans and they did not like that, but hey, add me, and maybe when I write my next book, you can read it.

          57. marshmil1789 says

            Your comment about “jail” for helping orphans is confusing to me. I have nothing to do with Facebook. To me it is a gathering place for “trailer park trash” to spread gossip. Atlanta, GA has a consumer advocate, Clark Howard, who strongly urges caution to those who use FB.

          58. Joseph Slabaugh says

            That is confusing to me too, the part of why they put a block on my account. I was trying to help a group of kids who lost both their parents in the same day, so I used Facebook’s new donation system to help them, but instead of approving the donation setup, they blocked me for a month. I am 8 days away from the end of my “facebook jail”. But luckily, I have been able to administer my Facebook groups using an account I set up for my son Desperado.

          59. marshmil1789 says

            While we might not know the details about why FB blocked you it is not something that would hinder me in any way since I have no use for Facebook. Maybe the FB monitors misunderstood your intent. I’m sure there are lots of evil people trying every way they can to “fleece” innocent people out of their money. Maybe FB has learned to be extra cautious when dealing with money matters. In the long run you will do well. Now to Amazon to check on availability of Yoders Country Cooking. Do I have to grow a beard without mustache to cook the food and enjoy it? ;D

          60. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Funny part was I was not even getting the money myself. It was supposed to go to their neighbor to give to the kids’ grandfather. The father had died in a hospital, and the woman went home and had a candle on that night, and that caught the house on fire killing her, but the 4 kids survived. Anyway, I dont care that much, just as long as I can still administer my business groups and pages.

          61. Joseph Slabaugh says

            As for facial hair, it is up to you! I currently have a beard, but shave it all off from time to time. At one time my hair was below shoulder length, but I donated it. My son did not know what to think at the time. He was like 2.

          62. marshmil1789 says

            I cannot tolerate “facial hair”. It feels like dried pancake syrup on my face. I can’t wait every day to carve it all off. I’d never make a good Amishman. Nor do I wear hats. Never could tolerate a “cover”. Was required in military but after that NO cap, hat or cover of any kind.

          63. Mathew Molk says

            I take it you never had to spend any length of time in the boonies. No shaving out there, you know. You can get pretty shaggy. Then after turned in my steel pot I spent the majority of my days for the next 40 years under a hard hat, but I’m like you. Unless it’s cold outside I never wear a hat otherwise.

          64. marshmil1789 says

            I sport a flat top because it’s easy to take care of–unlike a mop. And it’s fun when guys come up and ask me if I was a Marine Drill Instructor. HIGHEST COMPLIMENT anyone could ever pay me..I was a medic in USAF. Ha. I tip my lance to ALL Marines active and Veteran. You guys get there the firstest with the mostest!

          65. Michael Dennewitz says

            I signed off facesnook YEARS ago. My sister inlaw says I’m still on there, but I haven’t used that gossip center for years! ?

          66. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Hey, to each their own. I have to use it as part of my business. I used to post to YT, and have had 6.6 million views on there, and grew a cooking group to almost 90,000 members on FB, and now I am doing it all over again.

          67. Mathew Molk says

            Smart Idea

          68. Mathew Molk says

            Stay off facebook Joe. The REAL jails are full of people that got there via facebook. If I want to tell you personal information I’ll call you up on the phone are send you an eMail. I will not post it for all to behold.

          69. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Email is getting less reliable, and for a marketer, I have to be where the market is. But I too am hoping I can wean myself from it as a personal message system one day, and just use it as a marketing platform instead. I use it to drive traffic to my cooking site where I have over 2000 recipes.

          70. marshmil1789 says

            Man THAT is quite a buffet! And scrumptious Amish food.

          71. Joseph Slabaugh says

            BTW – if I stopped posting on my groups, my “secret” group with 80,000 members and this one with about 1700 would be wondering what happened: https://www.facebook.com/groups/amishrecipes/

          72. marshmil1789 says

            Joseph [ Yoder : ) ] you likely do not post private information. BTW I found the purple cookbook at Amazon.

          73. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Mom was a Yoder. I looked into it, and my 6th dreat grandmother was Native, and her father in law was a German Nobelmen. You can read that story on her site, barroinken.com.

            Oh and I hope you enjoy the cookbook!

          74. marshmil1789 says

            I’m already gaining weigh having looked at Contents page at Amazon. Actually I’m not too much into eating sweets. Rarely ever eat “dessert”. Am fond of common garden veggies with pork, chicken, fish and beef. For Thanksgiving Dinner I much prefer baked hen to turkey. But then ham, roast beef, fried chicken or fried fish will suit me fine. Incidentally I think it was a great selection to put Mom Yoder on cover of the purple cookbook. I have many questions I’d like to ask about the Amish people.

          75. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Feel free to ask me. joe [@] amish.co.

          76. marshmil1789 says

            Thanks “Joe”. I sent you an email last night. Check to see if you received it.

          77. marshmil1789 says

            I’ve sent two emails to you and both have “bounced” with the note that the email you provided is not valid.
            Used: Joe[@]amish.co. AND Joe@amish.com. Neither works. ??? Bitte erklarest du mir hier. Danke.

          78. Desperado Jax Willis Slabaugh says

            The [] would have to be removed I am posting under my sons name. YOu can also contact me on http://www.slabaugh.org/contact, to make sure I get it.

          79. marshmil1789 says

            Am sending another email to: joe@amish.com See if this one goes through. Sent a message this morning to the link you provided. Hopefully you got that one.

          80. marshmil1789 says

            And THAT Mathew is the reason everyone should avoid Facebook. I call it the trailer park trash gossip center. Email and telephone talk or text suit me nicely.

          81. Bunny says

            Joseph Slabaugh –
            It’s better and I think much more safe to use GoFundMe.

          82. Joseph Slabaugh says

            Ya, I am not falling for their BS this time around. I continue to see the ads for their new donation system, but I am not doing that.

          83. Bunny says

            marshmil1789 –
            Wow. Talk about an ignorant statement that everyone on Facebook as “trailer park trash”!

          84. marshmil1789 says

            Interpret as you wish. Your comment illustrates what I insinuated as indicated by your lack of civility in posting.

          85. Bunny says

            My cousin has been there as well. She absolutely loved it there and the people!
            I too couldn’t live there, but I would very much love to visit. However, I’ve been in the same stae, same town even, my entire life. My family is here an I’m not a courageous person, lol.?

        2. pineapple says

          It was fifty years ago, at Georgia Tech. and many of my professors were German scientists who were brought to the U.S. after WWII to teach.

          1. RsGoat says

            That makes a world of difference! Those guys saw the worst government could become and the lowest people could sink not realizing. I can’t explain it without missing stuff and taking a page. So many would not get it. While stationed in Germany I met some of these guys. Not the scientist but people who lived through those pre and war years and the damage done if you got them to talk was not good. My friends Grandma survived being bombed out of two towns running out while the building fell around her besides realizing all the other stuff that was going on under Hitler. The older generation carried a heavy shame with them that they didn’t like to talk about. Hans was an exchange student which was how I came to know the family. They were great people. I can see how when these guys came to America they appreciated our set up of government and the design which opposed allowing some one like a Hitler form grabbing power!
            I remember trying to explain that concept to a guy one day but he could not understand it. Wanted Obama to have more power! I stayed with him until he was a screaming lunatic and stormed off across the street! When he went to the stupid argument I thought what he heck I can get far fetch and bizarre. I’ll stay with you. He just could not hang. Maybe I should not have been so mean but I love our country and that is fact.

        3. keithbreedlove says

          Lake Technical Center, in Lake County, Florida has a 23-week welding certification course, among others. A couple of years ago, shortly after it was set up, a couple of their young graduates were hired for $100K/yr jobs in the oil patch (North Dakota, etc.). that’s about $50/hr to start, before overtime. If they can stay away from the drugs, over-drinking and hookers that go along with boomtown work like that, they could bring a very nice nest egg back to central Florida.
          Another source of high quality training that is often overlooked is the military. If you know some young person that doesn’t know what they want to do or the money to go to even a technical school, suggest that they visit a recruiting center and take the ASVAB (www.military.com/join-armed-forces/asvab) to see what their aptitudes are. Then, look at all the services to see which ones offer the best deal for the technical training that they want. I went for language training, and it kept me employed for over 30 years. My brother went for diesel mechanic training. Ditto on the career. Another benefit to military training is that in no other “industry” is a person, no matter their race, origin, sex or age, given so much real responsibility so early in their careet.

          1. marshmil1789 says

            Having spent 4 years as an enlistee I can say the military pay is not very good but one has all “benefits” of housing, food, medical, dental, etc. care. BUT once a Veteran, the benefits will astound you compared with what non-Veterans have to pay for their needs. Yes, the VA has been having some rough times but look WHO/WHAT sat in the Crescent Office of the White Mosque for eight years—an amateur, foreign-born imposter with zero credentials following an agenda right out of Saul Alinsky’s RULES FOR RADICALS to overthrow the USA.
            Do serve the country. Later you’ll love your decision to do it.

          2. keithbreedlove says

            My point was to look at a 3- or 4-year enlistment as an internship, especially if you’re not married. Those other benefits you mention — housing, meals, medical, dental, education (both immediate and future) — what civilian internship or apprenticeship offers anything comparable? And if it’s your first time away from home, the military even provides surrogates for your mother to get you out of bed every day and keep your room clean. And another benefit? If you realize that you made a mistake (think of a soldier trained as a dental tech and then finds out that they can’t stand spit [a high school girlfriend made this one up], well, you can use those education benefits (still GI-BIll?) to change careers. Where can you do that as a civilian, especially if by then you have a family, car, rent, mortgage?

      3. rick meek says

        Well – I graduated from a Vo-Tech High School and went into the job market back in the 70’s when unemployment was so high ya got nosebleeds…..I never took unemployment – food stamps – welfare or assistance – I went where the jobs and work was – I was constantly receiving updated training through my employers – health plans – pay – raises – and been retired for 5 years……SCREW COLLEGE – most jobs can be learned and done IN THE FIELD……

        1. pineapple says

          Having been a process improvement chemical engineer for forty years, I don’t believe engineering can be “learned and done in the field”.

          I would have been ineffective without what I learned in college.

          1. rick meek says

            Come on and get real —— class time and field time are essential…..

          2. pineapple says

            “Class time and real time are essential”

            I agree, however, without class time, I could not have grasped what was needed to understand the chemical processes that I was supposed to optimize.

            I conducted many trials to determine cause and effect. Without the benefit of statistical inference, I would not have known how to interpret the results of these trials.

            Also, when constructing mathematical models, I would have been lost without the help of calculus and differential equations.

          3. marshmil1789 says

            Pineapple we know there are some things that require intense classroom orientation. But I seriously doubt that your classes were presided over 40+ years ago by academic social misfits spewing their socialist agenda.

          4. pineapple says

            Actually, many of my professors were German scientists who were brought to the U.S. after WWII to teach. Politics were never discussed, only science and math.

        2. marshmil1789 says

          Good for you rick. Today “college bred” is frequently a four year loaf–excuse to avoid work. There are too many programs nowadays assisting (?) peoples’ shirking responsibilities by sitting in classrooms listening to hot air blowhard social misfits spew their socialist indoctrination.

      4. BUILD BABY BUILD!!! says

        That’s before the influx of obama Muslims took over.

        1. marshmil1789 says

          Perfect hit BBB. Thanks.

      5. marshmil1789 says

        Good post pineapple. I like your inclusion of the word “indoctrinated”. Our college and university campuses are overindulged with misfits blowing hot air to indoctrinate their classes. Most could not get a job were it not for classrooms for them to preach in.

    3. Julie Adams says

      Totally agree. The other option is to have your kid get a degree online. No BS. There are so many accredited options now, that’s what I’d have my kid do, unless they went to one of the few good campuses like Hillsdale College in MI.

      1. S. Wicks Jr says

        With the professors they have “NOW A DAYS” you ARE much better to get a degree On-line!!! Teachers or professors SHOULD not be allowed to teach their doctrine and only stick to the subject at hand……………

        1. Jackalyn Morrison says

          Agree with you one hundred percent

      2. Joseph Slabaugh says

        Which is what I just did for myself. I had a 4th grade Amish education and a GED, and now I have a BBA from AIU Onine, or at least I am getting it, I just had a graduation celebration on Friday.

    4. don76550 says

      UT is a hotbed of bizarre liberal loons with no concept of reality. Employers, think twice before employing any UT graduate. Parents, think twice before sending your children to UT to be brainwashed and indoctrinated rather than educated.

    5. ernldo says

      Yes, but if you think the indoctrination begins in college, you are mistaken. They are screwing the kids minds up in Kindergarten, and probably even public pre-school….

    6. Deplorable wizard says

      Liberal college professors are not just a threat to free speech, they ARE the biggest threat to our free society.

    7. evangelinebrabant says

      Actually, the American public education system is the biggest threat to our country of any institution, It is amazing that there are any moderates or conservatives at all in this country. The barrage from the Left in our pubnlic schools is mind numbing, and the students are so used to it that only some will notice what is ging on. Usually that would be students whose parents discuss events with them.

      Ask you child if any one at school has ever said that America is a great, amazing country. They will tell you no.

      They start when the children are little, teaching them early on that we are a flawed nation, and much of what the teachers tell the children is either wrong, or a lie: the Native Americans were definitely NOT peaceful hunters and gatherers before we got here. This anti-country propaganda increases as the student gets older and is embedded into the curriculum.

      In violation of most states’ laws, teachers – union thugs – openly preach their views, and many penalize students in history and English who disagree with the teacher’s opinion – expressed through interpretation of the curriculum.

    8. gotabgood says

      Until you come face to face with Trump…

      1. marshmil1789 says

        And that meeting would be one of the finest things to happen to anyone. The nation is beginning to right itself with our new Captain after eight years of Barack Obama’s inept amateur controlling the ship’s wheel.

      2. gotcha1 says

        Man that is a “tired act”! I believe you meant to say face to face with Obama! Thank the good Lord that loser is gone from public office!

    9. gotabgood says

      And instead of writing just your opinion… here is a news article…. don’t worry I will give you references..
      But…. think of all the private religious schools scattered about the country. Do you think they are teaching freedom of speech? Do you think they are teaching everybody is equal? I wonder if they even preach/teach love your enemy? Or show them how to lock and load?

      The Conservative Ideas The Koch Brothers Want To Sneak Into Schools
      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/koch-brothers-north-carolina-history-class

      1. gotcha1 says

        I went to a private school and from my experience they are pushing their liberal opinions off as education. There should not be any of this crap in any school. I don’t think the Koch Brothers really care about sneaking anything into a school. You forgot to understand they became wealthy in a Cpitalist Society not a Communist Society. All these so called “Socialist Democrats” out there screaming for reform should take a look at how that “reform” is doing in Venezuela. Not my opinion but reality.

    10. marshmil1789 says

      That’s what I’ve been telling young people lately. The days of need for a college degree are over. I hold three graduate level degrees. But unless one is headed for law, medicine, teaching or the clergy I say learn a trade because you’ll make a lot more money and will not have a mortgage size education loan to pay off.

      1. Robert Dostoevsky says

        You left out engineering and chemistry. I have Business Administration degree which certainly helped my career.
        There are a finite number of jobs available to the trades. I realized this after leaving the military so I started going to college at night while working as an electronic technician.

    11. Chris Robinette says

      Oh they are touchable but with either a left hook, right cross or a full uppercut.

      1. gotcha1 says

        Good one! LOL!

    12. Michael Dennewitz says

      And this is THE SOLE REASON why, one day, our OWN children and grandchildren will eventually turn against us all. 99% of these “so-called” professors have to be liberal dumbasscrats!@ ?☹?

    13. Mathew Molk says

      Tenure is easy as all hell to fix come the next union contract. NO TENURE period and if you can’t do the job of teaching you can’t stay. Now if management and school boards have the balls to do it is another matter.

      And don’t give me any “What about the Children?” if they go on strike. The kids are not learning anything anyway. Hold out and the whole country will be much better off.

    14. JAY says

      Well done – once the massive funds begin to dwindle the university admin will have to face reality – tenure protects weak and ineffective profs…. and there are doubtless lots of those.

    15. Floyd says

      Get it Right it is liberal communist professors are the biggest thing wrong with this country TODAY

  5. Joseph Carrilho says

    “College” professors – that says it all……..

  6. John says

    Unfortunately, there may be a wrong use at some time concerning guns. But, the deterrent use will be very positive. The crazy or liberal (Is that redundant?) who ends up shooting someone will surely die before he can shoot anyone else. So, although, there may still be school shootings, I feel that fewer people will be killed, due to the reactions of the more saner people around him/her with guns to stop the action. “Gun Free Zones” were giving the crazy person free range to shoot everyone he wanted to. It was like a kid in a candy store and like shooting fish in a barrel. I know those are cliches, but they fit. We need to put up signs that say “This is NOT a Gun Free Zone”!

    1. Mike with the Silver Star says

      Better yet, sign it ” This is a concealed carry permitted zone; Crackpots and intended mass-murderers beware”

      1. John says

        Why warn them?

  7. DonRS says

    Clearly, without any question, the BIGGEST THREAT TO FREE SPEECH on campus are the FACULTY, TITLE IX Administrators, the Administration in general, the “Rent-a-Mobs” and the campus, local city and town police who directed to “stand down”, to NOT enforce the law, in the face of RIOTS by the “Rent-a-Mobs”!!

  8. Michael Dennewitz says

    WOOHOO… Thank you judge.. Atleast we have one judge that’s not a commie!???

    1. rdells says

      Yea, Nazis are much more decent.

  9. John Williams says

    The only freedom of speech on the college campus comes from liberal indoctrinated left wing “antifa loons” loons created by the very professors who are whining.

  10. SouthernPatriot says

    I’ve known some liberal professors in my life. One colleague was so liberal that he would not allow dress shirts and ties in his classroom or any ideas aside from his own. He would write various articles espousing the “intelligence” of “progressive ideas.” It was not until his wife and 5 young children at home one night experienced an armed home invasion from a street gang. The next day, after he returned from a trip out of town, he brought himself and his wife a gun and immediately enrolled both in nearby shooting range.

    He did not write another article until about 18 months later, the same street thugs invaded his home again and he and his wife met them with deadly force. He next article was on the “Wisdom of the Castle laws.” I walked into his office and extended my hand and congratulated him. He asked why. I replied, “…for maturing into a responsible citizen!”

    1. Vonov says

      I’ve heard it said that a liberal is merely an embryonic conservative who hasn’t been mugged yet…lol

  11. Karen says

    When you go to university/college and are forced to take one of these liberal professors’ class, the student is at the mercy of the professor because the “Professor” determines the final grade! Even if you pass all the “tests” with flying colors, there is usually a written/analytical portion of the grade that the “professor” can use to ‘make or break’ your grade! You must stay on the “professor’s good side by “kissing his a$$!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!

  12. Larry Brule says

    THIS IS WHY ALL THE COMMIE LIB PROFESSORS NEED TO BE FIRED.

    1. rdells says

      You ever meet one of those? You obviously didn’t get past 6th grade.

  13. f m says

    Since when should a professor tell a student they’re stupid. Hope the gun carting will cause them to tone down their rhetoric. Finding out they’re no longer gods.

  14. jim_wright says

    This idiot professor most likely has no idea how often he has already been in a classroom with Illegal concealed weapons.

  15. bluewarrior13 says

    The threat to free speech are liberal snowflakes. Conservative actions of any kind are attacked on college campuses and sometime with extreme violence ie: Berkley.

  16. Mike with the Silver Star says

    The liberal train of thought borders on insanity. They would like all colleges to be “safe spaces” ,gun-free zones…We all know how these “gun-free” zones worked out….Innocent people were not able to protect themselves. Congrats to the judge who has more brain particles than these academics..

  17. Jmanjo says

    They are supposed to be teaching not carrying on their personal political agendas. The progressive professors need to realize what that paycheck is for and it isn’t anarchy or harassing our President.

  18. EE says

    Liberal professors are a clear threat to freedom and the Constitution, PERIOD! Some should be charged with sedition!

    1. catman says

      The “sedition act” was repealed back in 1921. It is now a part of the “espionage act” and is worded differently than the original act. I am not familiar with the new version. Guess it would help if I read the darned thing wouldn’t it??

      1. rdells says

        Probably not

  19. susmart3 says

    Kids, off to college, little parental control, testing their boundaries, drinking… and carrying guns! What could possibly go wrong? According to the American College Health Association (ACHA) “…the suicide rate among young adults, ages 15-24, has tripled since the 1950s and suicide is currently the second most common cause of death among college students. [American College Health Association (ACHA)]

    1. Rodney Steward says

      One of the biggest problems we have with kids, they don’t have parents anymore, no morals, no Church or God of any kind! Home is most of the problem!!

      1. susmart3 says

        True! But at some point, kids have to learn to live independently, and going to college is their first chance to (hopefully) learn what it is to be an adult.

        1. Rodney Steward says

          True, bit I’ve been pushing learning a trade, there’s plenty of jobs out there for that and now to many kids are going to college for jobs that don’t even exist, but the debt does! 🙂

      2. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

        I disagree that home is the problem. The indoctrination system is the problem. I homeschooled and my students are in the top 2% of the Nation. They were taught REAL history and the importance of reading, writing and arithmetic. They were taught study and research skills.

        1. Rodney Steward says

          NOOO, if everyone was doing like you that would be great, you’re teaching them what they need! I not talking about people like you that are doing what is GREAT for their kids, but there are so many that don’t have a decent home life and parents not taking the TIME that is NEEDED by these kids, this is where morals come in!! I’m proud for you to be able to do this!!

          1. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Thank you
            The kids do need more than parents guiding them and public school isn’t the answer.

            Churches are being vilified, scouting groups are being politicized and the Y’s and B&G clubs are too into their grant money these days.
            Aside from library events, all children NEED mentors in the community and guidance that isn’t all politically backed or strictly religious.

            So many adults biggest concern was ‘socialization’ and I was very upfront about the social disease experiment I found this generations schools to be!
            I know many homeschooling families don’t bother to teach above and beyond the school level but we operated 2 years ahead in most areas.

          2. Rodney Steward says

            I know a very few homeschoolers, but I know we need much more of it but it’s tough on families that would like to but just can’t afford to! Maybe one day these schools will get straightened out, but I’m not going to hold my breath! 🙂

          3. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

            Depending on the age of the children, the biggest factor is whether you stay at home and teach them or adapt their education to your days off. Too many people think that homeschool has to operate on the exact same days and times as the local public school. Many states have a minimum number of hours or days that a student needs to be actively ‘taught’ OR yearly testing requirements.

            The books etc can be free using library and Internet or you can purchase whole grade curriculum in a box for around 2 thousand. Many families will sell their old books online or at yard sales. There are co-ops that can offer reasonable sessions but require parent involvement. Some places have sponsored alternative learning that provide the curriculum on a rental basis, the parent teaches and a certified teacher monitors the learning process and interacts with student a minimum of once a week but is available by phone or email to answer any question.

            Each state is different HSDLA . org has the laws/requirements for all the states.

          4. Rodney Steward says

            That was good and thanks for the info.!!

    2. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

      That only proves we need better mental health care. It says nothing about a person willing to file paperwork and get the required training for concealed carry.

  20. papa doug says

    I remember the original arguments from the left back when the first CCW laws were discussed; “There will be shoot-outs in the streets like the wild west! That never happened either.
    My hope is that one day we can get these socialist school administrations out of there along with all socialist teachers so our students can learn history, honesty, truth and common sense once again!

    1. Rodney Steward says

      Amen,Nailed it friend, 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Robert Pekarik says

    Wake up America and actually investigate what the liberal progressives are up to. Check out Obama acting like he is some kind of shadow president visiting the same nations that our President is and speaking with the leaders of these nations. For what? is this part of his vacation planning? Is he trying to represent the United States of America without proper authorization as an everyday citizen? George Soros dumping his millions into the liberal progressive democrats and controlling practically every move they make. Corrupt to the core democrats, RINO’s and Obama holdovers in our nations capitol carrying out seditionist moves against our nation. Everyone is worried about the Russians? Guess what? The real and present danger to our nation resides within our own House (democrats and RINO’s), Senate (democrats and RINO’s) and Obama appointed officials.

    1. rdells says

      Well, SOMEBODY has to fix the damage der tRumpenfuehrer is doing. An anti-Nazi is what it will take.

      1. Joseph C Moore USN Ret says

        Do you have ANY idea of what a fascist or dictator REALLY does? Trump is not Jesus reincarnate, but he is certainly working against fantastic odds with the NWO, leftist elitists in government and the media.

      2. Robert Pekarik says

        It’s a real shame that people like you who have lost all sense of what it means to be an American continue to live so far up Obama’s rear end that you will never see the light of day. You’ve been fundamentally transformed and don’t even realize it. The past 8 years under the liar-in-chief has you actually believing that right is wrong and evil is good. You’ve bought into the fundamental transformation of common sense, morality and decency. 2018 will be another year where we the people will rid our nation of government elitists and looking to put someone in office that actually cares about our nation. Perhaps you can get your plane ticket to Iran, Cuba, Venezuela or all the other nations that hate the United States of America. You won’t be missed, believe me.

        1. rdells says

          AssHo**

          1. Robert Pekarik says

            I didn’t need to know your last name.

  22. jcgreen2 says

    I have taught as a professor at a large state university for the last 10 years and I was armed every day in every class I taught. I feel all professors should be armed and I welcome students doing the same. It actually makes the educational environment safer… not less safe as these uninformed professors in Texas claim.

  23. RsGoat says

    Animal Farm comes to life and the pigs are in charge. I’m not talking the “pig’s” as in derogatory term for police officer but for those who haven’t read the book. When the animals revolt and take control of the barn form the farmer it is the pigs who lead the charge and they are the social elites who all others must take care of and listen too or their society will crumble! Slowly each animal group gives up their rights to the pig group until only the pigs have rights! We are witnessing this in our own society as deferent social groups work to force their views on the rest of us making it a requirement we view the world as they do with no exceptions. Now you do not have to carry a gun on campus but it is your right if you feel the need and you are free to speak your mind with or without it but this social elite is working to tie the two together so he can first strip the right to carry away from those who have that desire. Mean while on the other side the LGBT community is working to declare some conversations “hate speech” so you can’t even talk about them. Some aspects of the more radical LGBT community attack religious attitudes where a group feels what they do goes against the fundamentals of their faith thus there is an attack on freedom of religion also. This elitist attack like the attack on smoking begins slow but with reasoned measured movement builds up steam until one day you turn around and the Pigs have the right to do the thing they want to do and those fundamental rights you thought were important are gone. If a person can have a right to health care why can’t they have a right to smoke a cigarette? State after State is finding reasons to allow their citizens a legal right to smoke marijuana so why not tobacco? Is it because the elitist Pigs of George Orwell’s Animal Farm just don’t want it? A whiff of smoke in a field is too much second had smoke? What fairy tale science is that? It is right up there with a rat drinking 600 bottles of diet soda drink to cause cancer which ended the sale of saccharine that is what kind of junk science that is. Too much junk in our media and science.

    1. rdells says

      Twisted free speech?

  24. Oldawg70 says

    Terminate all government subsidies/funding to each and every business where any individual makes more than the POTUS in salary and benefits…that would include virtually every public college and university in the US! Let these liberal indoctrination centers stand on their own…enough already!

  25. Phil Esposito says

    These scared little women are afraid they can no longer threaten students with bad grades if they don’t turn into leftist. Because maybe their totalitarianism will be met with a bullet to the head. I’m all for concealed carry in college for one reason: it’ll perhaps scare these liberals enough to stop threatening students who are conservative.

    1. rdells says

      Well now, conservatives ARE idiots.

      1. Phil Esposito says

        Bite me, you snowflake little pussy. It’s a-holes like you that will be the downfall of our once great nation.

  26. firehawk69 says

    As a Marine Corps veteran of the Vietnam War, I have had little problem winning a debate with the libs. They don’t want to engage very often and when they do and start losing to facts and logic, they try to out shout me and/or use foul language. I can easily out shout them having been given a set of pipes in Marine Corps boot camp and I make them cringe by not using foul language. Oooooo… Rahhhh…! Semper Fi….!

    1. MyRoseHasTHORNS says

      Thank you for your patriotic service!

  27. arshloch says

    These are not ‘professors’ they are ‘PERFESSERS’. They are fulfilling the goal of all the ‘PERFESSERS’ before them, to turn their students into communists. WAAAAAAAAAA

  28. rick meek says

    FREEDOM OF SPEECH —- Lefties and rinos are the threat to free speech —– Armed and Trained Citizens are a DEFENSE OF FREE SPEECH……

  29. rdells says

    Controversial subject. Both sides are wrong. Both sides are right.

  30. Stan Joy says

    Liberal Professors, radical, hate filled spirit against democracy, are the biggest enemies of our country. Gun CAN NOT kill anyone, UNLESS someone pulls the trigger! BUT, hate filled radicals, who resort to using their hands and feet to throw rocks at Police, break windows in stores owned by innocent owners, beat up supporters of some one they don’t like!! THESE are the enemies of our country and they have got to be stopped! Perhaps the Professors are the worse, as they continue to spread their vile, hateful, anti American feelings to very young vulnerable American people. Lord, help us.

  31. John J. Mulhall says

    “Common left-wing punditry…” is a very polite way of calling it what it is. Maybe all those sad sacks should have to take a course in shooting so they would be at least knowledgeable of what they are afraid of. Snowflakes who are afraid because they have associates who are afraid because their parents were afraid because they knew someone who knew someone who knew of someone who got shot amounts to hog-wash. Of course some of these propagandists teach hog-wash instead of productive classes that educate students into better jobs. As socialist Bernie said: ‘todays degrees are what my generation’s high school diploma was all about’. A sad failure of all our ‘educators’ who have dumbed down the recent generations of America’s children….

  32. Dale P Patterson says

    GIVE or make mandatory the possession and/or the carrying of a weapon on campus and see how many crimes are committed on campus.

    1. Rodney Steward says

      There are a lot of idiots in schools now, but terrorist thrive on gun free zones!!

  33. Mt Native says

    Unless the student brags about carrying concealed those stupid professors will never know who if anyone in their class room is carrying unless someone comes in and tries to kill as many students/professors as they can and the one carrying concealed saves lives. I would hope that students who carry concealed are smart enough to keep that information to themselves and carry on as if they aren’t carrying. The stupidity of the libs just keeps getting, for lack of a better word, stupider or is it more stupid. At any rate you get my drift.

  34. My country says

    Guns on campus are not the danger .It is these liberal professors that are Brainwashing young people and indoctrinating them into communism.It seems people are using the courts to make Americans live by their rules .

  35. Tiger says

    “As one of the professors put it, the “possibility of the presence of
    concealed weapons in a classroom impedes my and other professors’
    ability to create a daring, intellectually active, mutually supportive,
    and engaged community of thinkers.” Which is the laborious way to say, We’ll
    be too afraid of gun-totin’ conservatives to tell them how stupid they
    are in the liberal think-tanks we call college classrooms.”

    YES funny how a thought of a gun levels the playing field.

  36. Mustafa Curtess says

    They just don’t get it! “Gun Free Zones INVITE terrorist attacks and massacres. Illegal to “carry” anywhere alcoholic beverage is sold (even with permit) = Orlando Nightclub.

  37. Rob D says

    He morons: Remember the clock tower shootings at UofT? 40 people by sniper. Idiot liberals.

  38. BUILD BABY BUILD!!! says

    Guns assure your right to speak, worship and defend yourself against Islamic terrorists.
    What’s another dead Muslim?

  39. A. Jay says

    So it may impede his ability to create intellectually active, engaged community of thinkers?? I seriously doubt this genius has enough sense to get out of the rain! All they are doing is pushing their socialist agenda on our youth anyway!

  40. Jerry Del Vecchio says

    There’s no free speech in or on college campuses today. Guns will not dampen free speech. Liberals not allowing alternative POV and speakers e.g. UC Berkeley, Evergreen College, etc. have proven that Free Speech unless it meets the liberal narrative is not welcomed or allowed. These professors are part of the problem…get rid of them and there will be Freedom of Speech.

  41. Larry Cowden says

    Somebody should round those three up in the middle of the night, drive them 50 miles out into the panhandle far from any civilization and leave them hog tied on the desert floor with no water or phones!

  42. SDofAZ says

    It is a deterrent to campus violence as the left has been demonstrating regularly that they are willing to attack at every opportunity. And their favored method is from cover and at the back of who ever they have singled out as their chosen or intended victim. Always from behind and if possible when they cannot be identified. Cowards all and the enemy within, our enemy!

  43. Sol_of_Texas says

    These stories seldom tell me what I want to know. I have to do research further on my own.

    UT Austin has always met its EEOC quotas for delusional nutcases. I want to know if they taught a consequential subject (e.g. math, science, or engineering).

    Journalism standards on any publication’s part???

  44. cwwardiii@yahoo.com says

    Idiot liberals..go ahead and keep on showing why you are not fit to be instructors in any field of knowledge.. soon people will wake up and realize the JOKE THAT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES HAVE BECOME … nothing but stupidity is being taught.. and of course America is starting to pay the cost.. stupid graduates with worthless degrees…expecting to be paid big wages simply because they exist and have a worthless degree.. nobody taught them that after the education degree ..comes the real WORK OF APPLYING KNOWLEDGE>.. oops..if you got a worthless degree .. then you have worthless knowledge… imagine that.. and now go try and get a real job… what .. you can’t find a job.. hummm.. oh that’s right you wanted OBUTMA AND HILLARY.. didn’t you pay attention ..they did not create jobs.. they only made it possible for you to go to the bathroom of your choice… jobs who needs a job.. you can get welfare…oh you want a big car and lots of play money… guess you NEED PRESIDENT TRUMP TO HELP ENABLE BUSINESSES IN CREATING JOBS… IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???? Guess you better start supporting him.. cause the loser Hillary is not creating any jobs …anytime soon!!!

  45. anolesboy says

    maybe these Professors will stop their liberal views and the crap they are teaching our kids and stick to what they should be teaching.

  46. mossbergman says

    they are afraid they won’t have the guts to tell some one armed to shut up they’re’ being offended

  47. Edna Ethel says

    I see many references here to Technical Schools. I earned a Masters Degree in 1977 from a regular university, and I am now retired after a long professional career, BUT if I had it to do all over again today, I would definitely go to a Technical College/School and learn the following trades: plumber, electrician, welder, and sheet-metal worker. Any young person who wants a solid future, take heed of this advice. First, you will be able to write your own ticket anywhere in the world, and secondly, you will have solid practical “knowledge” instead of “fluff.”

  48. Sapperboy says

    Glass, Moore, and Carter are typical of the liberal mentality. It’s liberalism that spawned the type of person that commits heinous crimes, thus creating a need for self protection. It worries me to no end the IQ of the last 3 generations of “professors”.

  49. Lynne Douglas says

    Remember the shooting at Virginia Tech? Those at high schools? How many innocent lives could have been saved if law-abiding teachers and adult students had been able to defend themselves and
    disarm the criminals? Having only mental cases able to have guns is insane… One of the main
    ways Big Government (the dream of the Left) can control citizens is by taking away the right to
    bear arms. As usual, the Constitution writers were right.

  50. Mathew Molk says

    Does anybody else see the pendulum just starting to swing back?

    These snowflakes had to shit themselves when this ruling came down seeing the way they had been giving anything they demanded for over the past 8 or 10 years. Yo teach, Commie school’s out. Turn in your books. We are taking the country back.

  51. Tom xxx says

    Loonies are just crazy they are the threat to free speech.

  52. jaybird says

    They are afraid that a CCW student might not like what he is teaching.

  53. Frank says

    These professors are hired because they are liberal! The administration is liberal and they make sure they get the “right” sort of professors on their staff. If a tenured professor is conservative, he is keeping a very low profile! I’m not sure we can get these schools back to normal. I have seen this at the high school and even elementary school level!

  54. ernldo says

    So what are you traitor profs afraid of? I’ll guess its someday good conservative Americans will begin acting out like demotards do now…and they might take out the liberal trash. Why don’t you rump swabs get back to teaching what you’re PAID to teach, and leave the phony, leftist politics out of college.

  55. A_Nobody says

    These pseudo-professors are nothing more than lib kumquats who spend their time trying to indoctrinate students. The suit is absolutely absurd since they have absolutely no evidence, just opinion, that free speech is impaired by concealed carry. That would be in their lib meccas like Chicago only. Get rid of them and reduce the murder rate to next to nothing.

  56. RsGoat says

    How? If you deny us our rights you give us rights? How does this work? In Orwell’s Animal Farm each right or Freedom denied was to support the Pigs so they could better take care of the other animals In the barn until they were all starving and cold. When the other animals realized only the Pigs were going to survive the winter they had no choice but to rebel and that control of their own lives back. You see gun ownership is one of our rights just like freedom of speech, assembly, religion and the press. Begin to take them away and you are looking to take others. LGBT are people and have rights but they don’t have the right to take away the religious rights of others, just like this judge has no right to deny students the right to have legal guns. With each right comes the responsibility to respect the right’s of others and find a way to live together in peace respecting each other. You don’t need to force others into your point of view, you can give them room to live in peace and go your own way finding options that allow both sides to live in harmony. Unless we do this we will not be America. We have done this for over 200 years but some have forgotten how, they returned to childish behavior. It’s time to grow up Judge. Your are of mature age and should be setting a good example. Not a bad one. Some one see that he get this.

  57. georgepark says

    Isn’t it interesting that when the U.S. Government began the program of UNLIMITED student loans, that college tuition and college professor’s salaries went through the roof? I wonder if there is some kind of correlation.

    As long as there is UNLIMITED $$$$$, the tuition and salary limits are going to be UNLIMITED.

  58. greyghost5632 says

    Three idiots that should not be teaching at any level! I guess they figured they would get some lib socialist gun hating judge. What they were given was a judge who listened to there bullshit and ruled by law!!

  59. MOS19D20 says

    August 1, 1966 Charles Whitman went to the observation deck on the tower and with a rifle began shooting and wounding students on the drag and main mall. I was there on campus and noticed several students brought out their hunting rifles to stop the carnage. Finally stopped by an armed civilian and a police officer.

  60. Vincent Marcantelli says

    Look at what has happened in the past…….people are and have been killed because Some One, said they would feel uncomfortable if someone in the group was legally carrying a gun, but just think, if there was no one in the group with a gun except the WRONG ONE……yea, that’s how “HISTORY” is made. I, will always carry, and if I’m found to be in {violation} of the law, well, ask me if God forbid, after the shoot out, then as some folks say…….Rather be judged by 12, then to be carried by 6, if I am to become a victium, allow me to take as many with me as possible!

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