Professors to Students: We Won’t Debate Climate Change

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According to The College Fix, three University of Colorado professors teaching an online course called “Medical Humanities in the Digital Age” have a message for students signing up for the class: If you don’t believe in man-made global warming, you should keep your opinions to yourself.

“The point of departure for this course is based on the scientific premise that human induced climate change is valid and occurring,” the professors wrote in an email to students. “We will not, at any time, debate the science of climate change, nor will the ‘other side’ of the climate change debate be taught or discussed in this course.”

The professors fired off the email after several students complained about the opening lecture, which took a one-sided view of the issue.

“Opening up a debate that 98% of climate scientists unequivocally agree to be a non-debate would detract from the central concerns of environment and health addressed in this course,” they said. “If you believe this premise to be an issue for you, we respectfully ask that you do not take this course.”

Unreal.

There’s a peculiar bit of arrogance in human beings that assumes, on a deep, subconscious level, that we basically know everything there is to know about existence. We look around at our modern world and basically feel like we’ve got it figured out.

Human beings a hundred years ago had the same feeling.

They had it a hundred years before that.

And a hundred years before that.

In 1633, that feeling included the belief that the sun orbited the Earth, and the Roman Catholic Church considered it heresy to advocate any model of reality that proposed the opposite. Using a handful of Bible verses, the Church insisted that heliocentrism went directly against the teachings of God. When a scientist named Galileo refused to abandon his belief in that model of the solar system, he was arrested and confined to house arrest for the rest of his life.

Today, we look back at those medieval times and shake our heads. What primitive fools, we think.

But we think that while simultaneously and blindly believing everything modern scientific “consensus” tells us about the universe.

The problem is, our scientific community is just as susceptible to groupthink and political influence as it was in the days of Galileo. And while every scientist will tell you they are driven solely by curiosity and a thirst for truth, they don’t see the millions of assumptions they’ve made already – assumptions they have never questioned and never will. They don’t see that, like every other human being that has ever lived, 99.9% of what they “know” is just stuff other people have told them.

These professors aren’t deviously attempting to indoctrinate their students with deliberate lies; they believe wholeheartedly that man-made global warming is real and that it will have disastrous consequences for humanity in the very near future. And since this theory is indeed supported by the vast majority of climate scientists, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be taught in a course such as this.

The problem isn’t the subject matter or how they teach it; the problem is that they’ve shut the door to any debate. People do that when they can’t defend their beliefs.

Students who disagree with the theory of man-made climate change should indeed drop this class. But so should students who do believe in it.

Unless, of course, they’re interested in joining a cult.

370 Comments
  1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

    Actually, I believe the climate is warming as Satan’s punishment for eating animals, and I think this should be debated in class. Please don’t shut the door to debate.

    Also, cancer is caused by pigeons. Have you noticed that there is more cancer and there also are more pigeons? This should be debated in class. Please don’t shut the door to debate.

    And vaccination causes glaucoma. And nail polish causes acne. And loud noise causes hair loss. These all should be debated in class.

    Remember, scientists once thought the sun revolved around the world. So don’t believe anything scientists say. Put forth your own theories, as lacking in evidence the may be. After all, you know more than scientists, don’t you?

    Every nut-ball theory should be debated in class by students who know nothing. Isn’t that the way education is supposed to work?

    1. Tyronne Shoelaces says

      That’s exactly the way it’s supposed to work. Welcome to Obozo’s America ruled by liberal leftists.

      1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

        Uh, except for the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, the Republican-controlled Senate, the Republican-controlled Supreme Court, and all those Republican-controlled state legislatures.

        1. Tyronne Shoelaces says

          I agree, they are not doing the job we sent them there to do. Those are the RINOs. BTW, shouldn’t you be trolling at salon.com to be like minded libtards?

        2. richardwfaith says

          Get real. There’s no such thing as a Republican any more; we now have a one-party system that is staffed with infiltrators and shills operating on behalf of global elites who have an eye to the confiscation of wealth and property on a global scale. Innocently or not, people like you are their enablers.

          1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            You mean the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and most state legislatures are not controlled by Republicans? It’s now a one-party system?

            The consistent right-wing voting seems to contradict you.

          2. richardwfaith says

            The establishment allows just enough glaring and gouging above table between the part”ieS” to keep people believing that we have a viable two-party system, but UNDER the table they are holding hands and probably much worse. The Globalist CABAL (which is at the very core of the one-party establishment) has priorities, and arguably its HIGHEST priority is the erosion of American sovereignty; to this end, immigration laws already on the books are being selectively NON-enforced; both SO-CALLED part”ieS” are in this up to their necks. In matters that are of lesser concern (than ceding American sovereignty), the establishment allows some dissent, just to create a counterfeit aura of credibility.

    2. BARRY SOETERO says

      Especially when thug “scholars” spew disinformation!

    3. Stargeezer says

      Funny stuff!!

    4. paulrph1 says

      If something is valid it is to be debated but much of what you posted is nonsense. Any moron can see through this inane response. So we should close the door to all future learning because of some fanatical ideas? Those ideas are quickly seen through and dispensed with. The ludicrous posts, the ludicrous responds, the ludicrous believes.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        And the screaming monkey crowd of militarist brownshirts unites to silence any hint of sane discussion whatever the subject, backed by the administrative puppets of socialist academia.

    5. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

      LOL! You get the award for most sensible post of the day.

  2. Daniel F. Melton says

    They fear the questions they cannot answer, therefore these “educators” proclaim that there will be no mention of the subject.
    They are cowards.

    1. Mike Stempo says

      Federal funding is at risk when one dares to cross the politically correct line.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        They fear an honest job so much that they become willing acolytes for those who are engaged in the economic destruction of EEEeeeevil capitalist warmongering imperialists, because socialism is so much better.

        1. A natural born American says

          Wonder if, when they debate the wonders of socialism, they will care to mention how socialist programs will be funded. Will professors warn their average, and not so bright students that once socialism is in place THEY will be forced to become part of the workforce necessary to pay for all those freebies they are demanding for themselves? Somehow I doubt it.

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            Never mentioned is the mountain of corpses and the multitudes sentenced to brutalization and privation in “reeducation camps” that is the most common result of imposing a socialist “worker’s paradise”

          2. A natural born American says

            Wondered if that’s what all these ‘fema camps’ we’ve been hearing about that are springing up everywhere are all about.

          3. Daniel F. Melton says

            I’ve heard about these “fema” camps,but no direct evidence, and just ran across another article you should read and consider.

            ALERT: U.S. CDC Giving Itself Unconstitutional
            POWERS to Round Up and Detain Citizens En Masse Anytime, Anywhere And
            Throw Away the Key

            http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/alert-u-s-cdc-giving-unconstitutional-powers-round-detain-citizens-en-masse-anytime-anywhere-throw-away-key.html?AID=7236

            Here’s the “regulation”:

            https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2016/08/15/2016-18103/control-of-communicable-diseases#open-comment

          4. A natural born American says

            I read something about that too. Pretty freakin scary what our ‘progressives’ are demanding AND getting isn’t it? And once they realize they won’t be counted among the ‘elite’ once socialism becomes the norm who do you think they will turn to for protection? I’ve heard people saying they won’t waste even one bullet trying to save any progressive liberals sorry a@#@s if they do get what they want then change their minds.

          5. Daniel F. Melton says

            Don’t write them off in totality. When they realize how they’ve been used and tossed they may become some of our most useful converts. Of course, they’ll have to be collecting heads to allay our suspicions, but the most vehement and radical apostles are often those converted from the opposition.

          6. A natural born American says

            Food for thought. Agree that it will take some doing for us to know we can trust them.

          7. Daniel F. Melton says

            They’ll never be completely trusted, so they will go to extremes to earn any trust.

          8. sandraleesmith46 says

            They’re all heavily armed Fed’s, on the same team. FEMA camps would make excellent “isolation compounds” during a contrived “epidemic”, you know…

          9. Daniel F. Melton says

            I suspect that is why the current administration has attempted to contrive so many health scares…

          10. sandraleesmith46 says

            Undoubtedly! What better excuse to round up massive numbers of people without raising unpleasant questions?

          11. Daniel F. Melton says

            It’s not like “o”boy and his administration haven’t been allowing any and all to stream across our borders unimpeded, along with all the diseases and parasites they carry. Most are either foreign or have been eliminated here thus there is no resistance, and some diseases like multi drug resistant tuberculosis demand extreme efforts to eradicate.

          12. sandraleesmith46 says

            Uh… yeah, I know. I’ve worked a TB ward, and that was just drug resistants, not the super drug resistant strain coming in now. Some of the others, I’d never even heard of, and I do “speak that lingo”, but neither had other nurses I know.

          13. Daniel F. Melton says

            “o”boy and hillary are welcoming them with open arms, and seeking to destroy the health care industry at the same time. What’s that tell ya?

          14. sandraleesmith46 says

            I knew that before O was even in office; the costs of the illegals to our health care system was breaking it in the ’90s already.

          15. Daniel F. Melton says

            And little has changed but the numbers. They’re increasing.

          16. sandraleesmith46 says

            I know; we went from a trickle, to a stream, to a flood, to a tsumami, with every amnesty granted!

          17. Daniel F. Melton says

            This is “compassion” for who?

          18. sandraleesmith46 says

            Certainly not Americans!

          19. Daniel F. Melton says

            The intent of this administration is to render American citizens as diseased, desperate, and destitute as the poorest hell holes of the world.

          20. sandraleesmith46 says

            They’re succeeding too!

          21. Daniel F. Melton says

            Until we eliminate them.

          22. sandraleesmith46 says

            Unless they kill us off first.

          23. Daniel F. Melton says

            They’ll have to take our guns, and that ain’t happening.

          24. sandraleesmith46 says

            Not without killing us to get them, anyway!

          25. Daniel F. Melton says

            Just about every state, with the possible exception of the uber-liberal bastions of the Northeast and left coast, have more hunters than the majority of national standing armies. Toss in the recreational shooters and the self defense crowd and you’ve got better than 150 million armed citizens who will vigorously protest any attempt to abrogate their rights.

          26. sandraleesmith46 says

            True; the problem is that the gov’t has greater fire power technologically and is bringing in foreign troops as well, to aid them.

          27. Daniel F. Melton says

            *** greater fire power technologically***
            They have to base their units and support somewhere, and that’s where they’re vulnerable.
            ***bringing in foreign troops ***
            I hope they make arrangements to return the bodies to their home countries.

          28. A natural born American says

            Aren’t the best and greatest majority of the soldiers in the UN army mostly Americans? And isn’t most of obama’s ‘imported army’ isis? Once obama is no longer calling the shots after declaring war on American citizens, there won’t be any ‘stand down’ orders while engaging the enemy. American women defending their homes and loved ones will kill imported soldiers, including isis just as quickly and just as deadly as her male counterparts. I’ve heard that the UN and obama are keeping our soldiers busy in the ME until after they’ve murdered everyone in America who opposes the NWO. But it seems they’re going to be rather busy as other EU members want out now too.

          29. richardwfaith says

            Choreographed depopulation.

          30. Daniel F. Melton says

            None of them are volunteering to be “reduced”.

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          33. rdzk says

            That is an easy answer. 1950, for every $1 Individual income tax paid, the Corporations paid $1.50; 2016, for every $1 Individual paid, B$CEOsCorporations pay 25cents.

      2. richardwfaith says

        Please refer to my comment which explains in detail how the scheme works.

      3. Laddyboy says

        The movie “1984” should be a REQUIRED subject too be watched.

        1. Sol_of_Texas says

          Which version? One was released in 1956 and another in 1984, both based on the Eric Blair (aka George Orwell) novel.

          1. Laddyboy says

            Sol_of_Texas: I did not know there was a remake. I would F E E L the early version would be better due to not being as censored as the remake.

          2. Daniel F. Melton says

            Read the book.

          3. Jim says

            Read “Atlas Shrugged” and the foreword in “Jurassic Park” also !!!

          4. Daniel F. Melton says

            I first read that at 12. I need to read it again.

          5. Jim says

            Pretty much what is happening today I fear !!!

      4. Deborah G says

        well if we let Hillary pick Supreme court there will be no chance of fighting it

      5. sandraleesmith46 says

        Yep, the “result” is paid for by taxpayer funded gov’t grants, and scientists are told what they “will find”, or no more dinero!

      6. DD788Snipe says

        Dittos

    2. tCotUS says

      Hummmmm Debate …A formal discussion, as in a legislative body, in which opposing arguments are put forward . Decisions are made by a small group who decide things between themselves and who because they control the bureaucracy can impose their decisions on everyone else.
      These people need to be removed …Permanently.. It has now changed to Blackmail …Either you agree or I will fail you.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        And as the spy novels are fond of saying, “With extreme prejudice”.

        1. Dorothybsmith1 says

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    3. David Stewart says

      Even more, they are NOT educators!

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        True dat. Dey be da new zampolit, sniffing out the barest hint of counterrevolutionary defeatism.

    4. Deborah G says

      No they are radical leftists. No truth allowed just their own overinflated egos deciding what OUR kids need to think

      1. rdzk says

        Left is the side of your heart– if you have one!

    5. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

      Many things are not worth classroom discussion, because a class cannot produce scientific counter evidence. For instance, denying Evolution is not worth discussion, nor is the size of Noah’s boat.

      These are currently settled science.

      It is true that science often is proven wrong. In fact, the very nature of science is repeatedly to be proven wrong.

      However, classroom debate will not prove science wrong. In the case of climate change, the vast majority of scientists agree. Perhaps they are wrong, but classroom debate will not prove it.

      For that reason, classroom debate about settled science is a waste of time. Climate change deniers in the classroom will not prove anything.

      They simply will spout their opinions based on their scientific ignorance.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        In spite of the howls and prattle by the cult’s priesthood, global warming “science” is not settled. The high priests deliberately ignore the influence of solar cycles, the Milankovitch cycles*, and the influence of the most common “greenhouse gas”, water vapor.

        Stifling discussion in the classroom is but one way to stunt the intellectual curiosity of the students, reinforcing orthodoxy.

        *Milankovitch theory describes the collective effects of changes in the
        Earth’s movements upon its climate, named after Serbian geophysicist and
        astronomer Milutin Milanković, who in the 1920s had theorized that
        variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth’s
        orbit determined climatic patterns on Earth through orbital forcing.

        1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

          You refer to the scientists as “the cult’s priesthood,” but apparently you subscribe to a different cult priesthood — a distinct minority of scientists.

          I don’t know why you believe your priesthood more than the vast majority, but classroom discussion will not resolve the issue. It will only pit ignorance against ignorance.

          Unless you are a climatologist, you simply are parroting the opinions of the minority, and not providing new science.

          Next: Vaccination causes autism??

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            I have no serious training in the sciences, my field has been intelligence, winkling out the who, and where, chasing the willow-the-wisp, screwing the inscrutable, and pattern analysis.
            I’ve also dealt with communists.

          2. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            “I have no serious training in the sciences, . . .”

            Obviously.

    6. rdzk says

      Read the title and use the dictionary. You will find them in your ER saving your life, with their science and data. oh yes!

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        The only way I’ll be in an ER is if I’m unconscious and unable to refuse treatment.

        Medical mistakes are the third leading cause of death, behind heart disease (1) and cancer (2).

        Even when they kill ya, they demand the bill be paid.

        http://journals.lww.com/journalpatientsafety/Fulltext/2013/09000/A_New,_Evidence_based_Estimate_of_Patient_Harms.2.aspx
        **Using a weighted average of the 4 studies, a lower limit of 210,000
        deaths per year was associated with preventable harm in hospitals. Given
        limitations in the search capability of the Global Trigger Tool and the
        incompleteness of medical records on which the Tool depends, the true
        number of premature deaths associated with preventable harm to patients
        was estimated at more than 400,000 per year. Serious harm seems to be
        10- to 20-fold more common than lethal harm.

  3. Tyronne Shoelaces says

    So much for an open dialog and discussions. I would never send a child of my to these indoctrination camps. What the heck has happened to this country?

    1. Lizfan says

      Liberals took over and ruined everything.

      1. Kol says

        That’s funny coming from a screeching anti-Muslim bigot / hatemonger / racist.

        1. Lizfan says

          Stop projecting Kol. It makes you look bad. I’m no racist nor am I a hatemonger. I just don’t believe illegals should be rewarded for lawbreaking, & I don’t believe Muslims should be allowed into the US without being vetted first to make sure they have no terrorist ties. It’s a known fact that liberals like yourself don’t believe in that sort of thing.

          1. Kol says

            You screech anti-Muslim HATE, andi-Arab racism and prejudice and intolerance and discrimination constantly,… but, yeah right, you’re no anti-Muslim bigot. Hee haw again, jackass. You’re a laugh riot (and your kind always are!!!).

          2. Kol says

            What the hell are you blithering about “illegals”??? Sounds so stupid! Geesh!

          3. Lizfan says

            For someone who claims to be living in the real world you sure don’t seem to know what’s going on. Stop being a troll & keep up with current events. In any case I’m done arguing with you. Welcome to ignore.

          4. Kol says

            Moron.

          5. Kol says

            Republicans are heading back to Congress this week after summer break with one goal in mind: To impede a potential Democratic presidency.

            If they’re successful and Hillary Clinton wins, she’ll be forced to deal with the GOP’s old baggage — all the issues Congress refused to act on in the last session.

            Sound familiar? That’s because these are the same old obstructionist tactics Republicans have been employing for ages. And it’s exactly why Democrats running for the House and Senate need the resources to win.

            Our country’s made a ton of progress during President Obama’s time in office. But we’ve got a long way to go, and GOPers in Congress have only been holding us back. They’re already promising they’d do the same thing if there’s a new Democratic president.

            .

          6. Kol says

            Donald Trump praises Saddam Hussein’s efficient killing of ‘terrorists …

            http://www.cnn.com/2016/…/donald-trump-saddam-hussein-iraq-terroris...

            CNN

            Jul 6, 2016 – Donald Trump on Tuesday once again expressed his preference for … efficient killing of ‘terrorists,’ calls today’s Iraq ‘Harvard for terrorism’.

            Donald Trump proposes values test for would-be immigrants …

            http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/politics/donald-trump-isis-fight/

            CNN

            Aug 15, 2016 – Donald Trump will lay out his plans for defeating ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism, painting the fight as an ideological struggle on par with that …

            Donald Trump now says even legal immigrants are a security threat …

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/donald-trump-now-says-even-legal-im…

            First Donald Trump said that he wanted to block nearly all foreign … “We’re letting people come in from terrorist nations that shouldn’t be …

          7. Lizfan says

            I don’t care what Trump thinks of Sadam. Sadam is long dead so what Trump believed about him is irrelevant now. We SHOULD kill the terrorists. I already responded about the immigrants so I’m not going to repeat myself. The fight with the terrorists IS an ideological struggle.

          8. Kol says

            Donald Trump is still alive, we’re talking about what Donald Trump said. Has nothing to do with Saddam (correct spelling) being dead, and to say that is rather irrelevant and sounds stupid. LOL!

            Yes, we should eliminate the terrorists; however, YOU are wrong to view 1.5+/- BILLION Muslims worldwide from the stance of an anti-Muslim bigot because of the terrorists who number a microscopic few of Muslim family background. Your anti-Muslim prejudice IS wrong!!

          9. Lizfan says

            & yet your biased opinion doesn’t change the fact that what Trump believes about Saddam is irrelevant. & news flash: I never said that every Muslim in existence is a terrorist. I said that all Muslims coming to the US should be vetted to make sure there are no terrorists among them. That does NOT equate to all Muslims being terrorists.

          10. Kol says

            Somebody who takes issue with or opposes your anti-Muslim bigotry/prejudice/discrimination, your distortion, and your refusal to look at those, “looks bad”??? Oh, well, what the hellololol!

      2. Kol says

        / Republicans are heading back to Congress this week after summer break with one goal in mind: To impede a potential Democratic presidency.

        If they’re successful and Hillary Clinton wins, she’ll be forced to deal with the GOP’s old baggage — all the issues Congress refused to act on in the last session.

        Sound familiar? That’s because these are the same old obstructionist tactics Republicans have been employing for ages. And it’s exactly why Democrats running for the House and Senate need the resources to win.

        Our country’s made a ton of progress during President Obama’s time in office. But we’ve got a long way to go, and GOPers in Congress have only been holding us back. They’re already promising they’d do the same thing if there’s a new Democratic president.

    2. Seismic4 says

      Liberals.

    3. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

      Liberalism and the RAT party.

  4. BARRY SOETERO says

    Hottest day on record, July 1923…..”On 13 September 2012 the World Meteorological Organization disqualified
    the record for the highest recorded temperature, exactly 90 years after
    it had been established at El Azizia, Libya, with a measurement of 58 C.
    The official highest recorded temperature is now 56.7 C (134 F), which
    was measured on 10 July 1913 at Greenland Ranch, Death Valley,
    California, USA.”

    I love how our esteemed indoctrinators allow discussion and opposing views! Why? Because they KNOW their fraud science is flawed.

    1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

      And therefore the world is not warming? Re. “LMAO,” is that where you do your thinking?

  5. MJB says

    Because they have no argument, even if there is a climate change, which I seriously doubt, what man puts out is a pimple on an elephant’s ass compared to what mother nature spews into the atmosphere. If you take into account sun flares and a slightly different tilt of the Earth’s axis you might have a better explanation for a climate change but these are cyclical. Leaders need to concentrate on the problems they can actually solve like making a better business climate for more jobs. That is the climate change they need to concentrate on fixing because that is what’s killing America.

    1. BARRY SOETERO says

      LMAO! These twits spew their crap while jetting to their meetings. Then they force smog control devices on lawn mowers. Brilliant!

      1. gotabgood says

        Who made this?

        1. Mathew Molk says

          No

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            The boy has never been exposed to the ecologic disaster that is China, Russia, and from which the former Eastern block countries are attempting to recover.

        2. richardwfaith says

          Situation is easy to remedy. Simply STOP building cities in VALLEYS.

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            Your “remedy” is as simplistic as it is stupid.

          2. richardwfaith says

            Show me just one mountaintop community with a smog problem then, Einstein. Long before the first petrol was ever pumped, the native Americans were calling what is now the L.A. basin the “Valley of Smoke”.

          3. Daniel F. Melton says

            The fact that LA is more than a fair sized town is due to the tremendous reallocation of resources to provide water and power to that particular hell hole.
            Rivers are the initial highways of commerce, even when they are as unreliable and capricious as the Red River through the Dakotas. Rivers also supply water. Mountain tops are notoriously short of rivers.
            Cities that spring up in the absence of river transportation tend to be purely industrial, depending on technological transportation (rail and highway) for commerce.

          4. richardwfaith says

            Fair enough; then man invented ground transportation and pumping stations.

          5. gotabgood says

            Denver

          6. Daniel F. Melton says

            You don’t know much about geography, do ya? There is a thousand and more foot deep valley along the front range. Altitudes of the plains East of the mountains range up to 7000 feet, Denver claims 5280, Colorado Springs 6035.

          7. gotabgood says

            You don’t know much about geography, do ya?
            Ahhh….. NO, you don’t, from Denver Eastward it is pretty flat. No valley’s… no mountain tops

          8. Daniel F. Melton says

            I lived in Colorado Springs for 22 years. Driving East ya got a loooong uphill pull, and it only looks flat from the air.

          9. gotabgood says

            If you lived in Colorado Springs then it would be a long DOWNHILL coast going East. And besides.. we were looking for valley’s remember..

          10. Daniel F. Melton says

            Go there and see for yourself.

          11. gotabgood says

            I have been there, several times..
            I had a plush job at one time…. Pay was lousy…. but it was like a non stop vacation for me. I delivered motor homes all over the States including Alaska. I told the company I worked for when they come out with an amphibious motor home I want to volunteer to take it to Hawaii..But I have been to every state and had to go through several, many times to get to a dealership. On the return trip, I would take alternate routes, sometimes just to see different parts of the country and other times to stop and see old friends or family, and sometimes to meet new friends, I was single 😉 .

            Eastern part of Colorado is a boring ride… you could almost set it on cruise control and take a nap. Now the Western Part is entirely opposite… beautiful country. That big hill coming down into Denver from the West… I about bought the farm.. rain, turn to slush, turned to ice. couple of times I was side-ways… Last time I went through there from late fall to late spring.. strictly a summer route for me from then on.
            Hmm that was fun… good memories..

          12. Jim says

            It is required that each home and building in L.A. be equipped with an RBAF…..Refried Bean Accumulator Filter

          13. ANON Y MOUSe says

            Mexico City at 11,000 feet of elevation. Not at a mountaintop, but high enough to blow your assertion away.

          14. Daniel F. Melton says

            Both societies stratified and ossified, locked into caste systems and/or (in the case of China) suffering under a neo communistic oligarchy that cares nothing for its’ labor force.

          15. Sol_of_Texas says

            Particularly … desert valleys.

          16. gotabgood says

            So that is your solution.. not build cities in valleys !!!!!
            And I am suppose to respond to that 100 % asinine argument?????
            Are you familiar with the word geography?
            What valley is Denver in. Chicago, New York City, Philadelphia
            Air pollution dangerously high for almost half of U.S., report finds
            http://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-pollution-dangerously-high-for-almost-half-of-us/
            Or Beijing, or Moscow

          17. richardwfaith says

            I love your SIGNED SELF PORTRAIT!

          18. BARRY SOETERO says

            Oh, Oh, Oh….it’s always about the children, unless they are still in the wombhuh, jackass! You cupcakes stopped nuclear plants and dams! Better solution, stop breathing and kill your green weenie selves!

          19. gotabgood says

            Oh, Oh, Oh… it’s always about the unborn, after they are born… they are on their own… let them die

      2. richardwfaith says

        You just pushed my funny button! Do you know what an EGR (exhaust-gas-recirculating) valve is on a car? Several years ago, in my frustration over the PROBLEMS caused by EGR valves, I came up with this idea for a one-frame comic illustration:
        .
        The caption at the bottom says, “HOW THE INVENTOR OF THE EGR VALVE SPENDS ETERNITY IN HELL”. The illustration: the poor fellow is wearing a gas mask with a tube attached to it. The other end of the tube is connected to his derrière, and a hopper stocked with BEANS is fastened to his mouth.

    2. Francisco Machado says

      There is climate change. We are on the temperature upslope from the last ice age and the Earth has been warmer than the present for most of its history. the best bet is the climate will, on the long term, become warmer. The effect of the maunder minimum may produce another mini-ice age before it does. The prime promoters of humans as the causative factor are still flying around in private jets, sailing large yachts and air conditioning numerous vast mansions. Are they doing anything to prepare for the change in climate? Do I believe them when they spout concern over the effect of man on climate? I cannot but be highly suspicious of their motives. Especially multi-millionaire Al Gore, who made it off things like the carbon indulgences. AGW is a religion.

      1. Gerry Costa says

        I dare say, there has been climate change since the beginning of time and it will continue till the end of time. Does man affect it — maybe— but not to the point that these phony scumbags are suggesting and making millions from fools who fall for their scam.

        1. BARRY SOETERO says

          Hottest day on record, July 1923!

      2. BARRY SOETERO says

        Al Gore has three or four mansions, and The Grand Couch Potato, Bernice Sanders…………”Vermont magazine Seven Days reported Tuesday that the 74-year-old senator and his wife, Jane Sanders, have purchased a four-bedroom house on the shore of Lake Champlain for roughly $600,000. Jane told Seven Days that they had recently sold a house in Maine that had belonged to her family since the 1900s, and used the proceeds to purchase the new property, which is located in North Hero (population 803, as of the 2010 census). With this purchase, Sanders now owns at least three houses,
        the others being in Burlington, VT, and Capitol Hill in D.C.” Typical libTURD, vilify the 1% and then make your wife sell her family’s historic home to buy your third!!!

  6. Francisco Machado says

    Since prehistory man has been making sacrifices to control, to change the weather. Sometimes those sacrifices were human. Seldom were the ruling elite sacrificed. Plus ça change, plus c’est la meme chosé. The sacrifices are still human. The elite still enjoy Limousines, yachts, private jets, climate conferences in exotic locations, multiple homes, air conditioning (except J. Kerry, who decries it and has surely removed his). The rest of us feel the impact of the heavy hand of regulation and an increasing number become dependent on the government, and from the productivity of the working masses come the salaries of the ever growing number of government employees creating and implementing more regulations.

  7. gotabgood says

    Sounds to me they are being upfront with the topic THEY ARE TEACHING!
    Why would you go to a class about American Indian History and want to talk about the German family tree?

    1. Skippy says

      The article says that they would be taught how man maid global worming effects impact on human health, and way of life. This professor is spewing out his personal beliefs. The professor is afraid that someone will disprove what he believes, and make him look like a fool. There is plenty of facts out there that disproves man made global worming. I remember when I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade they were talking about man caused ice age. these people want to scare people into giving up their Constitutional freedoms. They aren’t teaching they are BRAINWASHING.

      1. gotabgood says

        There are almost 200 countries that signed in on Global warming. China has 1.5 billion people and most all of them are believers..we in the USA… mainly because of the BRAINWASHING done to the rightwing… we come in dead last!!!
        There are NO FACTS to disprove global warming!
        And if they taught that when you were in the 2nd or 3rd grade.. you must be in high school now. 50’s was about getting America strong, rebuilding the countries we destroyed, 60′ and 70’s was Russia, cold war, Korea, Vietnam. Late 70’s Carter recognized we needed to get off oil.
        From the chart it is easy to see since 1800 the trend is UP!! Yes there were a few spikes, but over all up is the trend.. that means hotter.
        Also you should know that 14 out of the last 15 years have been the hottest on record, that is since 2000. Each year breaking last years record. 2016 is on the way of breaking last years record.

        1. Seismic4 says

          So what Republican was responsible for the last Ice Age ending and sending the world into a global warming spiral?

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            Expose the fool to too many inconvenient facts and he’ll suffer a conniption fit.

        2. Skippy says

          Yep NASA and NOAA got caught falsifying data with these other countries to prove global worming. That’s really scientific. Those greenies got stuck in the south pole ice caps to measure how much it shrunk when in fact it grew more than it’s been in decades. Two icebreakers had to be sent out to free them, because the first one got stuck too. The fact is the global temperature hasn’t changed in 15 years. Just because 200 hundred countries sign on to this lie doesn’t mean we have to follow along. The temperature log that you showed was the falsified data. Now try again.

          1. gotabgood says

            Give me reference

          2. Skippy says

            google it. As I said before back in the late 70s it was global cooling , and now it’s global worming. The scientist, and environmentalist that got stuck in the ice was a little over a year ago. I thought that was funny because what the set out to do and they found out in a big way that the ice caps was the biggest that it’s been in decades. You claim that this has been the hottest since before middle ages they didn’t even have any way of accurately taking the temperature back then. as a mater of fact we have only been able to get accurate temperature from around the world maybe in the last 70 years. now you want to call it climate change well duuu the climate has been changing for thousands of years before we had any industry.

          3. gotabgood says

            Nope… you google it.. I gave you a chart … you gave me nothing..

          4. Skippy says

            Those were big stories there is plenty of articles about what took place I’m not going to do your job for you. You just don’t want to look, because you would be proved wrong. NASA and NOAA falsified data, and was doing it with other countries that’s a fact go look it up. There is a lot more stories about the ship that got stuck in the pack ice. I’ve already disproved your chart, but I’ll blow an even bigger hole in it. Your chart goes past the medieval times. First of all there’s not much written records from back then, so how do you know what the temperature was back then? They didn’t even really have a way to take the temperature accurately back then. You can’t get even a somewhat close temperature reading from a core sample let a lone an accurate one. So you don’t have any way of really knowing what the temperature was back then. Do yall have a time machine that no one knows about? We have been able to accurately get temperatures here in the U. S. for about 70 years. For the first part of our country’s history we didn’t have all the land that we do now so how do you know what the temperature was back then? Some places in this country have only been settled by us for only a hundred years or less. Back in the late 70s and early 80s you guys were pushing that man was causing the next ice age to come. I remember that because I had to take some reading material home to my parents on that subject. I also remember the orange crops that were destroyed from a late hard freeze in Florida. You are saying these are the hottest temperatures in history, yet these scientist were caught falsifying their data an manipulating their computer modals. You want me to believe what they have said? You guys want the Government to prosecute Exon Mobil for financing research that disproves global worming, but say nothing about these scientists. What a bunch of hypocrites. As a mater a fact our Government doesn’t fund any research that would disprove global worming. GEE I WONDER WHY?

          5. gotabgood says

            You give me your opinions… which I guess you have the right to do that… but my right is to call it BS!! Which I do!

            I follow NASA and NOAA and I have never read such junk as you want me to believe.

            This is from another skeptic.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTk8Dhr15Kw

          6. Skippy says

            NASA and NOAA are Government agencies and are putting the governments agenda into their reports. All the Government wants is to increase it’s power over us, and this is one way they can do it. Of curse NASA and NOAA aren’t going to tell you they got caught lying. The were caught conspiring with other countries scientific agencies to falsify data and manipulate their computer modals. You are afraid to find out that your beloved NASA and NOAA have been lying to you. I have read thing from retired NASA scientist that say this is just a big lie. They say climate is changing but it has nothing to do with man, because the climate has been changing for millions of years. As I said before they are guessing what the temperature was way back before the middle ages they have no real proof of that. Your chart that you provided has big holes in it. Man made climate change is a lie. NASA and NOAA is just like Hillary they got caught lying and tried to destroyed the e-mails to cover it up. These people belong in prison. If I did something like this I would be sitting in prison somewhere. You can’t know for a fact what the global temperature was back in the late 1500.
            In my statement there are facts. Not having the ability to accurately record the temperatures back then. Back in the late 70s and early 80s the so called scientist was saying that man was causing us to go into the next ice age. The Florida ice storms that destroyed the orange crops. NASA and NOAA conspiring with other countries scientific agencies to falsify and manipulate their computer modals. These are all facts and they are out there if you choose to look.

          7. gotabgood says

            Describe this?

          8. Skippy says

            A comic from a mindless liberal drone. Glacier National Park this is a half truth The glacier did shrink a little, but the fact that you leave out that it grew at a different part of that glacier. The glaciers have grown and receded for over a million years, It’s called a cycle it happens. If you want proof just look at the land masses that have been carved out by these glaciers.

          9. gotabgood says

            I see you focused on the one thing you can associate with… the cartoon, the rest are real photos!!!
            But here is some proof…. enough of your talk… show me your proof Glacier Nations Park is growing glaciers!

            Climate Change Threatens to
            Strip the Identity of Glacier National Park

            http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/23/us/climate-change-threatens-to-strip-the-identity-of-glacier-national-park.html

            >

            VIDEO

            http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/151021-glacier-national-park-melting-vin

            >

            No More Glaciers in Glacier National Park by 2020?

            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090302-glaciers-melting.html

            >

            These Before and After Photos Show How Glaciers in the US Are
            Melting

            http://petapixel.com/2015/10/25/these-before-and-after-photos-show-how-glaciers-in-the-us-are-melting/

          10. Skippy says

            I didn’t want to waste my time with the other crap. Stop being a mindless drone and do your own research. Really National Geographic there the biggest supports of this lie they wont print anything that disproves it. Again these glaciers have been growing and receding fore centuries. do you even know what receding means? I don’t think so because you confused it with me saying that it’s growing. Now I did say that was a half truth because it grew a little in a different part of that glacier which is very very big. Now we might be in a receding period, but it’s not man made. Now for that half truth if you want proof go look it up, because I’m trying to teach you to do your own research.

          11. gotabgood says

            Sure your time is too valuable to go to National Geographic.. to valuable to go to NASA and NOAA… you would much rather spend your time at Dr. Smuck website who knows everything thing about everything…
            If you would spend half as much time reading as you do BSing For the last 2 centuries our own glaciers have “RECEDED” from 150 glaciers to now 25.
            And I might add the rest of the glaciers have been following suit..

          12. Skippy says

            Again the same NASA and NOAA that was caught falsifying their data? This isn’t man caused this is the climate naturally changing. At one time the desert in Africa had a forest and if I remember correctly it was a rain forest. What did man do to change that climate?

          13. gotabgood says

            You do not have to take this personal if you don’t want to. My experience on these rightwing blogs have been informative to say the least. I have found out you will repeat a lie and told the facts of the lie and you will still tell the same lie over and over again and again. Truth and facts does not compute well with the rightwing.
            98% of the people here NEVER give references, you are one of them. You expect people to believe you just because you said it… Not so at least with me.
            As for your African rain forest.
            Do you know they have found traces of DDT in the Arctic? How did it get there? We didn’t spray it there did we?
            You people do not understand….. what we do in this sphere, what we call earth.. nothing gets in…. nothing get out… if you fart… it stays with us… it is just deluded down enough where some tree or a blade of grass thinks yummy eats it up and changes it back to oxygen, this is our living cycle… for each fart there is a tree… now as you noted… we lost a lot of trees in Africa.. that means somebody’s fart is hanging around polluting our air. Polluted air means more heat and less clouds to water the trees.. and WALLA we have a desert.
            By the way, in China they are also worried about the desert ever claiming more land each year. What you do in America affects Africa, what China does affects Russia… we all use the same water over and over again.. the same recycled oxygen over and over again.
            It is climate change… it is global… not locally..

          14. Skippy says

            You just keep on proving how much of a mindless liberal you are. You keep spewing out the lies that the government keeps putting out. You said 98% of us don’t put references. Well I’m speaking for myself, but I think they think the same way I do. I took the time to do the research myself and expect you to do the same. This is why I call you a mindless liberal drone, because you expect other people to do the work for you. All this information is out there if you choose to look. Most of my research has been done in the library not on the internet. I admit I’ve used the internet more lately.
            I’m glad you brought up DDT. You liberals that got this band and think that it was a good thing have blood on your hands. DDT was on the way of wiping out malaria, because it killed the mosquitos very well and didn’t harm humans or anything else. Both of my grandpas told me that when they were in WW2 that they put DDT directly on their skin to kill the mosquitos before they could even land on them. They were very thankful for DDT, because it saved them from getting malaria. By the way most of the US solders used it that way and they also sprayed it. Our allies started to use it too and they started to use it world wide up until a stupid moronic woman got it band. With no scientific proof that DDT caused birth defects in babies. There was an independent investigation done and sais there is no scientific proof to back up the claims. The newly formed EPA fearing this woman went ahead and banned it in the U.S. Then the other counties fallowed suit. Now we have the Zika vires and DDT would help defeat that too, but you guys wont let that happen. Since DDT was used world wide I’d say there is a good chance that it wound up there, but again DDT didn’t harm humans or plant life. The way I read what you wrote you seem to think that DDT was only used in the U.S. They started using it world wide after WW2, because they saw how it effectively stopped the malaria from speeding and actually stopped it. Now malaria is back on the rise and starting to find it’s way back into the U.S. all thanks to you guys.
            Now abought the lake that was drying up were is it? if it was in Texas I can tell you it’s not that way now, because of all the rain that we have had. If it’s in southern California it’s because you libs are trying to protect a bug. You guys got them to shut down over the irrigation system over a bug and now things are drying up. Well that’s a no brainer. now go and do some real research on your own.

          15. gotabgood says

            You keep calling me a liar… you say all my sources are liars too. But all you offer me is you get your information from the library… really must be up to date on all the is going on in our world.. Do they have the “moon landing yet”?
            So I can’t call your sources a liar… so I have to direct it to you.

            As for DDT, It did kill insects like bees, birds and fish… since the 60’s we have come a long way… we have come from a TV in every home to a PC in every home. Things never stand still, what we once thought we knew, like the moon made of cheese, we now know it is not. We now know the fossil fuels should stay buried, they have served their purpose right up to the time Reagan took the solar panels off the WH. DDT, there is still reason to be careful… they said it could harm pregnant women.
            But you and I know what we have been taught.. some of it BS, some of it true.. some the jury is still out on…. The things you read evidently are different than what I read… so If I am wrong… why do you keep your knowledge a secret? Time to share… the presidential candidates we have are the least popular of all time. This election is truly one of the very important elections that we have been part of. We need to think with something else that our fickle emotions..

          16. Skippy says

            I know it’s hard for you liberals to comprehend what you read. I never called you a liar, I called you a mindless liberal drone that repeats the lies from the government. Now I’ll give you something to go and read. Read the independent investigation report on DDT. The stuff that we use to kill mosquitoes today is far more dangerous to us than DDT ever was and it doesn’t kill the mosquitoes very well. so go and get you facts strait.

          17. Joe Maxwell says

            Your life is about to change because the sun is starting to take a 30 year nap and the earth is going to get extremely cold by 2030 and you may starve to death because of your beliefs

          18. gotabgood says

            STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            There is nothing in the bible about a 30 year rest period for the sun..

            It is good to be religious as long as Jesus is in the center of your belief…. you are going overboard. Before you give me one more thing about a 30 year period… give me book, chapter and verse. You could at least made it 50 years… then it would have been in the same cycle as Jubilee.

            As for me starving to death, The Lord will feed me like He did Elijah with ravens.

            When Christ returns it will not be cold..

            2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
            Don’t sound like you’re going to have much of a chance either

          19. Skippy says

            Let me try to explain this so that even you can understand it. New Orleans and the surrounding area is below sea level. That also includes the coastal areas. That means that at some point the sea would reclaim that land. this isn’t attached to man made climate change, because it doesn’t exist. I believe in climate change, because the climate has been changing for millions of years. I don’t believe in man made climate change.

          20. gotabgood says

            Lets do a little reversal here. Let’s say you are correct. That the ocean is and has been reclaiming Louisianan… for how many years???? a 1000? a 1,000,000 years? Go back as far as you want…. where there wasn’t a Golf of Mexico… it was all land!! What happened for the ocean to start taking the ground back? Where did the extra water come from to create the Golf? If there is a change in something… anything.. there has to be a reason for the start of the change. This earth if you will is a giant dome,, what we have is all we ever had or ever will have. We do not get a fresh supply of water every 100 years.. by the way.. just in case you want to further show your ignorance and say we get a fresh supply from the rain clouds…… no.. that is all part of our dome… evaporation = clouds = rain
            And by the way….the first ones to be affected will be the coastal cities and islands.. which some island have sunk, some are sinking as we speak.
            The ocean is claiming a lot of land…. In Asia, Europe, USA…. where is all this water coming from????????????????????????????????????????????????

          21. Skippy says

            Are you really that stupid or are just a mindless liberal drone that can’t think for themselves? I said parts of Louisiana is below sea-level, that means that the land mass is below the top of the ocean. There is a good chance that the sea will reclaim that land. Now lets see if you can understand this. A good portion of Texas and Louisiana was at one time under water. How do I know this, because they found fossilized deep sea creatures well inland in these states. Now in Florida where they are building these storm drains to help with the flooding. This is for when these big storms like hurricanes come through that it would help with the flooding. By the way they’ve had this flooding problem as far back as the 1700s. So do you want to continue and try again.

          22. gotabgood says

            I know what below sea level mean.. do you know what you said?? ” That means that at some point the sea would reclaim that land” To RECLAIM something that means at one time it belong to someone or something before.. in this case the sea!!! Ok how far back to we go before it started to RECLAIM???? How much land was there? You tell me.. you are the smartass telling me the sea is going to reclaim…. It is reclaiming all over the world at the same time… so I ask you again… where is all this water coming from to reclaim all this land???
            NO! They are not building storm drains… they are installing water pumps… and it is not JUST during storms… it is at HIGH TIDE. Which is also happening in CA on the West Coast… and Hawaii..and Alaska

          23. Skippy says

            You must be that stupid and a mindless liberal drone. Did you even read what I said? obviously you didn’t. Yes I do know what I said. I’ll try this again liberals must have an IQ of 1. I said A good portion of Texas and Louisiana was at one time under water. How do I know this, because they found fossilized deep sea creatures well inland in these states. Also as far north as the DFW area. How do I know this I remember when I was a kid finding sharks teeth in the creek beds. Before you say they were prehistoric teeth, these teeth matched more to the sharks we have today. Now go and study your history there was times of extreme high tides as far back as the 1700s because the sailing ships were warned not to get to close because the tide was deceiving and that they would get stuck in low tide. Now lets see if you can figure this out, if the North polar ice cap was to grow bigger than it’s been in centuries it could increase the water level. Can you explain how that would be possible?

          24. gotabgood says

            Calgary, Alberta, Canada… You know what is there?? Many of your fossils and dinosaurs..Dinosaur Provincial Park…. So was Alberta under water too?

            “A good portion of Texas and Louisiana was at one time under water”

            Again.. you are missing the point COMPLETELY. WATER!!!! To be under water.. means there was water covering the land….. the water receded to WHERE??????? What I want you to say is…ICE, glaciers, Glacier National Park, the Arctic… the Antarctica.. That is where the water went!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…….. NOW…. it is getting warmer… the ice is melting…. In 1910, Glacier National Park had 150 glaciers… today we have 25!! Where did the water go?????????????????????????????? What happen between 1910 and today that we have lost 125 glaciers?????? And it is NOT just in the USA that glaciers are disappearing.. it is all over the world….. WHERE is the water going????????????????

            Answer…. the sea.. Even the ground water like in CA is also disappearing.

            What is Ocean Acidification?

            http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F

          25. Skippy says

            What can you not read the teeth weren’t prehistoric. By the way nor was the deep sea creatures, another words not dinosaurs. I said that the sharks teeth closely match the sharks of today. In order for there to be that much teeth in that area it had to be under water for a long time, because unlike humans most sharks grow back their teeth after they loose one. As for the ground water drying up yes we had that Texas because we was in a drought There has been periods of drought throughout this county’s history again it wasn’t man made. Now at the end of 2015 to now we’ve had a lot of rain now they are full and we are out of our drought. now this is fact. You can look it up. Now the glacier ice melting is all going to the ocean. There is a few scientist that believe in man made global worming say that there is no way no one can really know how much of the glaciers run off actually make it to the ocean, because there are many underground water supplies that gets filled with this run off too. I believe them on this, and there are other scientist that say this too look it up.
            Now the ground water in California drying up it’s mostly in the southern part of the state. Again that because of the liberal policies there, because of a bug they want to save they shut down the irrigation system and the water that flowed to the ground water supply has stopped and now it’s drying up. Well that’s a no brainer. By the way that ground water supply wasn’t there before the irrigation system was put in. Now you want to pin that on man made global worming! That’s the reason why liberal policies are so dangerous.
            there is more than a few factors that would make the coastal waters to rise. One is a thing called extreme tides now I haven’t had a chance to check yet if this might be happening. Extreme tides is when the tide is so high that it comes well inland, but when it’s out it goes way out to sea more than normal. this too isn’t man made this is from the effects of the moon.
            Now I challenged you to figure out how if the North Polar ice caps were to grow bigger than it’s been in centuries how that could possibly raise the sea levels. You didn’t even respond to it or even try to figure it out. Well I’ll try to explain were even you can understand. The Artic ice and the surrounding pack ice doesn’t have any land mass under them. Now Ice floating on top of the water displaces that water. That means it pushes the water up and out. For example if you fill a mixing bowl 3/4 of the way full and take a bowl and push it down into the water it raises the water in the mixing bowl. Here is an experiment that you can do and don’t lie about the results, because I’ve already done it. Fill a large mixing bowl 3/4 of the way full water and then put ice into it until it is just abought for it to over flow and let the ice melt and check the water level. You will be surprised at the results. by the way when you put the ice in it and the water level rises that’s called water displacement. I doubt you will try it, or if you do you’ll lie about the results.

          26. gotabgood says

            Skippy… to say this the most politest way I can…. you are misinformed.

            If this was an isolated case as you are pointing out in CA… By the you say Southern CA and once again blame it on the Liberals…. but your definition of Southern… need a little overhauling. The deep dark red starts North of Sacramento.. I always considered Sacramento being in the Northern part of CA.

            The drought affected more than just CA. and in the valley. Ski resorts closed up all over the Western US. Lakes were thawed and snow melting in Glacier Park. Not enough snow in Alaska for the dog race.. and see if you remember this??

            It is nice to go outside in DC and make a snowball and bring it into the halls of congress for show and tell and quite another to dig your way out of avalanches that closed the road in Alaska due to high temperatures 50* and rain in January.

            Like I said… it is not just CA.. or not just the USA.. it is world wide.

            Warm weather forces The Great Ice Show to find own ice, water for sculptures

            It might have been cold for the past few days, but the warm weather so
            far this season has forced the organizers of the The Great Ice Show out
            of town to start making ice sculptures since the Red River hasn’t
            entirely frozen over yet.

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/warm-weather-forces-the-great-ice-show-to-find-own-ice-water-for-sculptures-1.3383541

            What I have given you has nothing to do with your so called bought and paid for NASA and NOAA. They are news articles and some like the winter Olympics in Russia were televised… It is happening all over the world. Summer heat records are being set on a yearly bases now… 2016 has already past the 2015 records and we have 4 months left.
            Whatever or whoever you are reading…. STOP… start reading news papers from around the world.. you go to the library… use it wisely…
            Read China and see how much land the desert is claiming each year.
            Read Alaska and see how early the ice breaks up.
            Then when you really see what is happening.. you might sing a different song.

          27. Skippy says

            Find some books on the history of the irrigation system in California. There are plenty of them. In these books you’ll learn that California doesn’t have much of it’s own fresh water supply. Lets look at California it’s mostly a desert climate and has gone through many of periods of droughts this is nothing new. The only man made part of this drought is the shutting down of the irrigation system that also includes reservoirs. Now with out these; the drought is made worse. None of this climate change is man made. It is however a natural change. The climate has been changing for centuries before man even had any industries. Man can no more change the climate than the man on the moon. Now go and do some real research and stop being a mindless liberal drone.

          28. gotabgood says

            I guess I have overstepped your limited knowledge.

            First you have to understand a few words

            like;

            “Never before”.

            “Record.”

            Since the last ice age… could be 18,000 years ago or 2 million years ago, ( who’s counting?), depends on where you get your information.
            Ice has receded from USA to the Arctic. It left behind glaciers. in 1850 we had 150 glaciers in our now called Glacier National park. In 1910, when the park became official we still had 150 glaciers. 60 years and nothing changed.. we didn’t add any or we didn’t lose any. has their been any changes that you can think of? That wasn’t there during the years of 1850 to 1910? Something happened for the next 100 years we lost 125 glaciers. 1910 till now.. How about planes, trains and automobiles and I am not talking about the movie. Do you know in Gary, Indiana and all around the Chicago area, the snow was black after only a couple of days on the ground, from steel mills. This was in the 50’s and 60’s.
            Ever hear of acid rain? Look it up. Was that a natural phnomina

          29. Skippy says

            I have limited knowledge when you’re the one that can’t comprehend what I wrote, and get that right. You were wanting me to give you something to look at to prove what I’ve told you abought California I did, but just like a typical lib won’t do it.
            Really never before you guys must have a time machine that nobody knows abought. I’ve got it it’s the liberal crystal ball there is no way to prove never before when it comes to the climate.
            I haven’t answered the glacier yet because I want to double check some things before I comment. Unlike you I just don’t spout out things
            Yes I’ve heard of acid rain we are debating man made climate change not pollution. there is no scientific facts that links pollution with climate change just some theories that haven’t been proven. Now for the smog 35 to 40 years ago you chicken littles were saying that all of this pollution was blocking out the suns rays, and this was causing the planet to go into the next ice age. can you guys make up you minds.
            I’m glad you brought up the ozone hole. the equipment that discovered that hole was just made that year. For all we know that hole could have been there for 2,000 years. We didn’t have the technology to detect the ozone layer before that. That hole is over the ocean in between Australia and South America. You guys blamed it on CFC, but there was a big problem with that CFCs is a heavy gas and doesn’t get that high in the atmosphere to eat away at the ozone layer. That’s the lie you libs got CFCs heavily regulated and when that was disproved scientifically yall changed it to it adds to the greenhouse gasses. I believe that to be another lie. You guys kept saying it grew 20% year after year and yall were caught in a lie. Yes it grew 20% during Australia’s winter months and it would shrink during their summer months.
            This is why I don’t believe you guys 35 to 40 years ago yall were saying it’s been the coldest that it’s ever been since the ice age. We were causing the next ice age. Now you want me to believe that man is causing this. What did man do to cause the last ice age? What did man do to get us out of the last ice age? answer nothing.

          30. gotabgood says

            “You were wanting me to give you something to look at to prove what I’ve told you abought California I did,”

            You gave me NOTHING!!!!! you told me to go read some books on irrigation… didn’t even give me ONE TITLE!!! SO I am suppose to search the library hoping to find the book you want me to read????? NO THANKS!!

            I do not spout thing out….. AS YOU DO!! No references… just opinions, rhetoric that any one on here could repeat almost word for word.

            Pollution = climate change.

            This is a real brain teaser here.. but you can call your local weather station up to prove this.

            A cloudy night is warmer than a cloudless night. Why? Because the clouds hold the heat in.

            Smog is nothing more than a man made (unhealthy ) cloudy that does the same thing… it holds the heat in. Smog is pollution = pollution causes temps to raise. Methane is worse than CO2.

            And your phony ice age because of smog… smog is something brand new, and NO ONE knew how to deal with it or its effects. Now we know!

            The ozone hole is healing, we stopped using various chemicals and it is getting better, so if we can heal it… we damn sure caused it! Since 1910 and beyond this earth has experienced chemicals and pollution that has never existed before. And by the way… if it weren’t for scientist, we would never know we were doing anything wrong… until we died!

            The hole is above Antarctica.. this is called a reference ,

            > http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/ http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm <

          31. Skippy says

            I know that you’re a mindless liberal drone and have an IQ of 1. I know that comprehending what you read is hard for you. I never said that pollution wasn’t man made. I did say that climate change isn’t man made.

            Now I did a school report on California and the history of it’s irrigation system and why they needed it. That was when I was in the 8th or 9th grade so I don’t remember the name of the books that I used. Now if I gave you a wrong title and it was the wrong type of book, or worse yet it didn’t even exist. You would go off and say how much of a liar that I was and so on and so forth. Correct if I’m wrong. Now it’s very easy to go into the library and look them up on the computers. That will point you to the books to read. I don’t want you to just read the books that I read I want you to read other books on it because you’ll get a better understanding of what’s going on in California. By the way I had to look through these things called index cards to find books because there wasn’t a computer system.

            Again you must have an IQ of 1 I’ll copy and paste what I wrote. Now for the smog 35 to 40 years ago you chicken littles were saying that all of this pollution was blocking out the suns rays, and this was causing the planet to go into the next ice age. can you guys make up you minds. This was the case you guys was making to prove the man caused next ice age. I know that on a cloudy night that it is wormer than on a cloudless night ya moron. This is what I used when I was debating the so called man caused next ice age. Also when it’s cloudy there are sill rays that make it through that’s why you can still get a sunburn on a cloudy day.
            Since you like to bringing up LA so much do you know what the Native Americans called that valley? I don’t think you do so I’ll tell you. They called it the valley of smoke and sometimes the smoke was so thick it blocked out the sun. Now of curse it wasn’t really smoke it was a cloud. so what industries was there back then and how many cars? None. Before you go off clouds is mostly water vapor water traps pollutants. So this cloud becomes a polluted cloud.
            As for that pie chart this is an attempt to rewrite history. I remember debating the man caused next ice age in school. I was called all sorts of names like flat earthier, because I didn’t believe in man causing the next ice age. Again from the late 50s to the mid 80s the big push was man made ice age. Then when that didn’t happen then it became man made global worming. Now that people have more easy access to this information because of the internet now it’s man made climate change.
            When the ozone hole was first discovered it was it was just over the ocean where I said it was. I haven’t looked at it in a long time. All this proves is that it’s moving. It doesn’t provide any information when the hole was created. Again this hole could have been around for thousands of years.

          32. gotabgood says

            I know you didn’t go to any of the websites I gave you… see you don’t even have to leave the comfort of your home… no searching.. just click.. or copy and paste.. tough huh??
            Maybe you will look at this chart…explains a lot… you have people that are against science no matter what is being said. But if you pay real close attention to the chart… you will see the majority of scientist still believed the earth was warming..

          33. Skippy says

            Again you can’ comprehend what you read. I have gone to most of the sights that you put forth. If you would have read properly on the ozone hole I said all it proves is that it has moved. Again this pie chart is a lie. They are trying to rewrite history. I remember what they were saying abought the man caused Ice age 35 years ago. I debated these morons that believed in this in school. Man caused ice age was what the scientific community was pushing back then. Again I had to take home reading Materials to my parents to read on that subject mater.
            I gave you two things to look at one of them was for you to go and look at the independent investigation report on DDT. I don’t think you have. That one was a specific one.
            What abought the water displacement no comment beyond you intelligence level?
            These scientist are hoping that people won’t go and do there own research, and find out what they said in the past. All that information is out there for any one if they choose to look. I’m trying to teach you how to do research.

          34. gotabgood says

            You win…

          35. Skippy says

            I’m not the mindless drone that can’t do their own research. You’ve bought into this lie hook line and sinker. Man made climate change is a hoax.

    2. Michael Robinson says

      No-it’s like teaching a course of American history and starting from the premise that privileged white men had nothing to do with it because that would give undue preference to majority perspectives over minority views, or that wars are inherently bad so we won’t discuss them or that capitalism is bad, so please don’t try to argue that our socialist view of what is best for the future of the US!

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        Socialism is so wonderful that they must silence any hint of the historic roots of this nation, from the interminable warfare of the original inhabitants to the realization of the failure of socialism by the Plymouth Colony, to the rending of this nation and bloodshed that led to the end of slavery, and finally the machinations of those leading the lemming rush to socialism through indoctrination via the nationalized “eddykashun sistum” and suppression of all questions or dissent.

  8. FloridaJim says

    Global warming is a Democratic scam demanded by them to fund all their projects to strangle blacks, illegals, students,terrorists and unions.They have wasted $25 trillion dollars creating and maintaining the hellholes they force blacks to inhabit and now are stuck in a quagmire of debt and lies.Under Obama we have doubled our debt and Obama lies to us daily as in the employment numbers:The
    unemployment rate is down and the economy is strong, claims the Obama
    Administration. If that’s correct, why are so many people still out of
    work? In this week’s Prager video on business and economics, we learn that the
    unemployment rate only tells part of the story, because it only counts
    the people who are actively looking for jobs and ignores those who have
    given up. Watch the video here
    and find out why the labor force participation rate–which counts both
    the percentage of people who are actively looking for work together with
    those who are currently working–is a much more accurate measure of
    economic strength.

    1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

      Got it. The 97% of climatologists who say the climate is warming due to increased CO2, actually are Obama stooges.

      Also, our economic problems are the fault of Democrats, and definitely are not the fault of a Republican-controlled House of Representatives, a Republican-controlled Senate, a Republican-controlled Supreme Court, and all those Republican-controlled state legislatures.

      Sounds reasonable to me.

      1. Michael Robinson says

        Rodger, you are not only correct about the directly appointed or funded Obama hacks, but the reality it this is even moreso globally through the United Nations hack system. This nonsense of “98 %” of climate scientists agree (in anthropogenic) global warming is a lie–virtually ALL of the work of the UN so-called report on climate change and it’s updates was written, edited and controlled by political appointees, virtually none of whom are actually climate scientists. Yet, the Obama faction (led by the lead hypocrite on use of fossil fuels, Al Gore), and the rest of the UN jackel pack have thrown around this “statistic” with the same liberal disassociation from the facts as Hillary has done with her discussion of e-mails. Stalin may have been right–if you tell a lie often enough it becomes true?

      2. curmudgeon VN Veteran says

        Silly me. I had thought weather to be cyclical. Remember when liberals were pushing the next Ice Age back in the 50’s or are you too young for that? BTW are little green men spewing BS like yours to melt the polar ice caps on Mars? Mars is your home planet is it not?

        1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

          I wonder why the vast majority of climate scientists are liberals. Could it be that conservatives don’t believe in science — sort of like Evolution?

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            Blatantly incorrect.

          2. glenn398 says

            Rodger true science not the twisted version of what they try to shove down our throats. Hardly anyone argues against the fact that the earth is warming, the argument is not over the cause but the fix. What we don’t really address and should be putting the money towards is the earth is overpopulated and earth being a space ship can only accommodate so many. Don’t forget the Viking used to farm in Greenland and think that was a little before cars ECT.

          3. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            “Hardly anyone argues against the fact that the earth is warming, the argument is not over the cause but the fix.”

            Uh, except the right-wingers.

        2. glenn398 says

          Curmudgeon at 76 years of age remember well that time. Washington was talking about moving the farming father south as the summers in the Mid West were getting to short and cold to grow crops. Another thing to remember is the Viking used to farm Greenland so it had to be a lot warmer during that time then it is today. Guess we had too many cars, electrical plants ECT back during the Vikings time. The real problem we need to address is over population of this earth as it is only a space ship and can only accommodate so many.

          1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            Are you saying overpopulation is the cause of global warming?
            Or are you saying that because centuries ago the earth was warmer, there is no reason now to cut back on CO2 producing activities?

          2. glenn398 says

            Really both as over population no only adds to the CO2 because they need burning materials and food they are eliminating the forests. For a more developing country like China and especially India they have been adding coal fired electrical plants weekly, especially India.

      3. Daniel F. Melton says

        What makes you think that there is but one political party? We are allowed to see the factional disputes between republicans and democrats, but any elected neophyte who may “rock the boat” is swiftly counseled by the respective party leadership and is either humbled to join the herd or shunned and rendered mute, to be replaced during the next election. Look what has happened to the TEA party.

        Realistically, there is but one political party, that being the ever more socialist federal government. The authors of the Constitution sought to confine this monster to its’ crib, but it survived and grew. Now it will take herculean efforts to force it back into its’ cage and save this nation, if it can be done.

        1. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

          Yes, cut the size of the government except:
          Don’t cut your Social Security
          Don’t cut your Medicare and Medicaid
          Don’t cut back on inspecting your food
          Don’t cut back on inspecting your drugs
          Don’t cut back on defending you against other nations’s armies
          Don’t cut back on protecting you from terrorists
          Don’t cut repair of our aging infrastructure
          Don’t cut back on aid to communities devastated by hurricanes, floods, fires and other disasters
          Don’t cut R&D for life-saving new drugs to stop cancer, ZIKA, (smallpox), etc.
          Don’t cut support of national parks

          Yes, indeed cut the big, bad, ole’ federal government.

          But I’ve listed the vast majority of federal spending. What do you want to cut, and what will that accomplish?

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            Among those items, only national defense is authorized by the Constitution, and the federal government has (deliberately?) become woefully inept in recent years.

          2. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            Yes, yes. Same old story from the “government-is-too-big” Libertarian folks. Love to moan and groan about size (for some unknown reason) but have no idea what to cut.

            Bottom line: The government is not to big.

          3. Daniel F. Melton says

            Do not smear me with the libertarian label. I’m a Constitutionalist.

            http://www.constitution.org/pol/us/consplat.htm

            If you think the size of government is appropriate, you pay for it. I see the waste and corruption as a symptom of government grown too large.

          4. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            Nonsense. If anything, small governments are even more corrupt and wasteful. Look around you at the states’, villages’, and small nations’ governments.

            It’s not the size of the governments but the nature of the laws and the adherence to the laws, that make for waste and corruption.

            As for being a Constitutionalist, that is what was claimed by Scalia, he of “money is speech” and “corporations are people” renown.

            The mantra of Constitutionalists is, “I believe in strict adherence to the Constitution except . . . . ” (long, long list of exceptions goes here).

            Thus, in practical terms, given all the arbitrary exceptions, it is meaningless.

          5. Daniel F. Melton says

            How can small government be MORE corrupt and wasteful when they don’t have the money to waste?

            You are amusing when you refer to the nature and adherence to laws. The current administration has blatantly ignored law when it’s convenient, and the Congress has been complicit by continuing to fund the waste and corruption.

            If you disagree with a Supreme Court justice, that does not make your opinion any more relevant than a gnat’s fart.

            The hyperbole of your responses only proves my point.

          6. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            You asked, “How can small government be MORE corrupt and wasteful when they don’t have the money to waste?”
            Apparently, you never have lived in Chicago or elsewhere in Illinois.

            The federal “waste” you decry, doesn’t cost you a cent. The federal government is Monetarily Sovereign, meaning it creates dollars, ad hoc, when it spends. It neither needs nor uses tax dollars. Even if all federal tax collections fell to $0, the federal government could continue spending forever.

            State a local (i.e. small) governments, by contrast, do use tax dollars. So every bit of wasteful spending comes out of your pocket.

            That is why people are foolish to want state and local governments to do what the federal government does.

            Those who do not understand Monetary Sovereignty do not understand economics.

          7. Daniel F. Melton says

            I studied economics some years ago. The subject has not changed much. If you have ever taken a college course in economics, you should demand your money back.

            The federal government prints money with no value other than its’ promise to render value when the demand note is presented. A lie. The more they print, the less value.

            The city of chicago is not “small government”. It’s a criminal oligarchy, soon to reach the same state as detroit or the state of kaleeforneeya,

            Just what does the federal government do, other than waste the resources of the nation’s citizens and strive to circumvent the Constitution in order to perpetuate its’ growth?

          8. Rodger Malcolm Mitchell says

            You said, “The more (money) they print, the less the value.” In mathematical terms, that sentence means: Value = 1/Supply.

            Wrong.

            Value = Demand/Supply. Your economics education didn’t teach you about Demand? What a pity.

            Demand = Reward/Risk, and the Reward for owning money is interest. That is why the Fed raises interest rates to prevent/cure inflation, and lowers rates to stimulate inflation.

            You also said, “The city of Chicago is not ‘small government.’ It’s a criminal oligarchy.” Semantic nonsense.

            You’re twisting yourself into a pretzel with that one, while unintentionally making my point that small governments are not more honest or productive than large governments.

            Finally, you asked, “Just what does the federal government do other than waste resources. . . ”
            I already answered that one: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Inspecting your food, Inspecting your drugs, Defending you against other nations’s armies, Protecting you from terrorists, Repair our infrastructure,
            Aid communities devastated by hurricanes, floods, fires and other disasters, R&D for life-saving new drugs to stop cancer, ZIKA, (remember smallpox?), etc., Support national parks, and myriad other initiatives that make your life bearable.

            But feel free to do without the above benefits. You won’t, will you?

            You must think government is a bunch of aliens, but in fact, government is people doing what people do. Some people are honest. Some are not. Some are competent. Some are not.

            You seem to have a dreamy-eyed notion that somewhere out there, a group of angels exists, who will create a paradise, if only we could get rid of the humans who currently run governments.

            Sadly, you never have seen such a group, and you never have seen the ideal government you crave, so you’ll have to deal with honest/dishonest, competent/incompetent human leaders.

          9. Daniel F. Melton says

            Meh.

  9. Skippy says

    These liberal professors need to be fired. there has to be debate over something that’s not a scientific fact. it’s just a theory and a bad one at that. The fact is that they don’t want to be challenged, because they are afraid to be proved wrong. They think they are smarter than anybody, but their not they are just ideologues.

    1. richardwfaith says

      The REAL solution is to categorically eliminate the federal funding which ENABLES all of the mischief. In addition, a BOUNTY ON ALL GLOBALISTS couldn’t hurt.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        What would we do with all the suddenly unemployed bureaucrats with no marketable skills?

        1. richardwfaith says

          Send them to trade school.

          1. Daniel F. Melton says

            They would first have to unlearn so much of their indoctrination that they would be of retirement age by the time they have acquired any useful skills.

        2. David Stewart says

          Think you could teach them to wash windows or sweep sidewalks? Surely they could learn something to become useful!

          1. richardwfaith says

            Failing that, let them run on treadmills to generate electricity for those of us who know how to use it, and sustain their nutrition on a CARBON-FREE DIET for as long as they can endure it.

        3. TPM says

          They could become the prime ingredient of Soylent Green …

          1. Sol_of_Texas says

            Yuk! Do you reckon it would be edible?

          2. Daniel F. Melton says

            I’d vote for organic fertilizer or pig food.

          3. Jim says

            That is a noble solution but who would want to eat the Soylent Green if they knew that was the prime ingredient? Not I !!!

      2. BARRY SOETERO says

        Run for president! I’d vote for ya!!

  10. Mike Stempo says

    Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years by Avery and Singer

  11. Mathew Molk says

    With a title like that you would expect openness and a balanced discussion and freedom of speech?

  12. brokebill says

    No debate, we have told you what you will believe!

    1. richardwfaith says

      Und you VILL like it!

  13. Estoban says

    Pure communism.

    1. Daniel F. Melton says

      Communism is never pure as long as corruptible humans are drawn to wealth and power.

      1. richardwfaith says

        Very early in its evolution, the trunk of the Tree of Communism formed what tree surgeons refer to as a “crotch”; it got BIFURCATED into two main branches: the Author/Philosopher Branch, and the Installer/Implementer Branch. The latter grew strong and robust, and has caused much misery in the world; meanwhile, the former has atrophied and withered to the extent that its very existence has become purely academic.

        1. Daniel F. Melton says

          Communism has been a murderous corruptocricy in all its’ branchings since its’ inception, and those you refer to as the “Author/Philosopher Branch” are just as bloody minded and responsible for the millions of dead and global misery as the actual killers.

          1. richardwfaith says

            While I strongly suspect that you are absolutely correct about the Author/Philosopher Branch being equally as murderous as the Installer/Implementer Branch, I was giving the former (very likely, gratuitous) benefit of the doubt. Bottom line: they are all bad, and it seems we agree on it.

          2. Daniel F. Melton says

            I’ve studied them and fought them. Bad does not begin to describe ’em. Start with evil and continue from there.

  14. tCotUS says

    “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
    •Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Biology and Global Change. Professor Schneider was among the earliest and most vocal proponents of man-made global warming and a lead author of many IPCC reports. He is a member of the Club of Rome.

    “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”
    •Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation and member of the Club of Rome.

    1. Daniel F. Melton says

      **Meanwhile, a report in the London Daily Telegraph finds even the data being analyzed is being manipulated to exaggerate the global warming threat.
      In that report by Christopher Booker, headlined “Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures,” he points out that a new team of five scientists has begun investigating the increasing evidence that the data being used for climate-change projections by computer models has been intentionally distorted by analysts wedded to the global warming hypothesis.
      “Their inquiry’s central aim will be to establish a comprehensive view of just how far the original data has been ‘adjusted’ by the three main surface records: those published by the Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the U.S. National Climate Data Center and Hadcrut,” Booker reports. “All of them are run by committed believers in man-made global warming.”
      Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/top-scientists-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures/#5lilRCqFQpB7Vq8h.99

      According to agw fanatics, we’ve got to sacrifice our national and global economy to save the world from “anthropogenic global warming”; uh, “climate change”; no, wait, it’s “climate disruption”; well, maybe it’s “Global Climate Weirding”, perhaps it’s the dreaded but ever popular “Climate Collapse”,”Climate Chaos”,“Global Weirding”,”Tipping Point”, “Ocean Acidification”, or “Extreme Weather“ or it’s “Catastrophic Climate Disruption” and the renaming continues through endless iterations. It’s yet again been renamed “Dramatic Changes in Temperature and the State of the Atmosphere!”(commonly known as weather and seasons), and more recently renamed “Ecological Panic”, (which means something of an undefined nature might possibly occur at some unknown point in the future and maybe have unexplained negative effects), until they rename the non-phenomenon again. Those majestic priests of the cult refuse to allow the uninitiated to view the data and methods they have utilized to foretell the unimaginable disasters they predict. Professor Phil Jones of the CRU in charge of maintaining data sets famously told an Australian climate scientist in 2004: “Even if WMO agrees, I will still not pass on the data. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it.”
      Never mind what we call it WE’VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING! Even if it does nothing but increase the stranglehold of government regulations, makes rich liberal socialists even richer, collapses the global economy, and advances the cause of one world government with no discernible effect on the climate.

      1. jimmy midnight says

        There’s a reason these college teachers have precluded discussion of the veracity of this hypothesis. It’s because they don’t want to waste class time dealing with denialistas and the same worn-out nit-picking BS they keep regurgitating.,

        Instead, they look to have actually informative discussions, that subsume Climate Change as a given, like real scientists. Any remaining credential-carrying people in the denial camp are clever prostitutes, who’ve learned, profitably, to play ends against the middle.

        The denialists in this string are just DUMB whores. You’re to be personally congratulated for chasing down some of the details, but bitch-slapped for finding only evidence that supports your side of things. It’s the side fossil fuel interests want you on. Go give the Kochs a BJ.

        The reality is that eliminating fossil fuels ASAP wouid be a net gain everywhere, because of resulting improvements in public health. Oh, and Estoban, getting that to happen through changes in law would be socialistic. In a Communist system, government would accomplish these ends by taking over companies.

        1. Daniel F. Melton says

          Crap. You’ve apparently studies at the joseph goebbels school of debate, Instead of offering any kind of rationale or explanation you immediately begin with “wasting time”, “denialistas”, “clever prostitutes”, “whores”, etc.

          If you’re so much against fossil fuels, abandon your sinecure, your apartment, your computer, transportation, electricity, heat, and plumbing. All were produced, transported, or depend on fossil fuels. Abandon the refrigerator, because it uses EEeevil electricity. Cooking over an open fire? You’ll need a couple of acres of standing timber to support one household, and without a chain saw you’ll grow to hate the axe and splitting maul.

          A net gain in public health? Hardly. Are you familiar with water purification? Are you aware of the fabled “Montezuma’s Revenge”? Know anything of the horrendous death toll of cholera epidemics?

          Know anything of the elites who were allowed to shop in the Glavny Universalny Magazin department store of communist Russia? Western goods the commoners weren’t allowed to think of purchasing, even if they had the cash.

          You could move to Venezuela and join the socialist “revolution”, but bring your own food and toilet paper.

          1. jimmy midnight says

            ASAP contains the notion of what’s possible, and that is not, “By the proverbial week from next Thursday.”

            It means something like developing and implementing a plan to get to fifty percent renewable energy sources by 2030. Fossil fuels will then reach some kind of crooked number single digit percentage minimum with the simple passage of time.

            Since fossil fuels are pollution, there’ll be an inevitable improvement in public health, when environmental poisons subside.

            Although the level of societal change us hard core lefties are seeking is still arguably of a revolutionary character, we’re pretty sure it will simply evolve in the wake of a redistributive jubilee.

            It is gettin’ ’round to time to gather Winter fuel. I’ll be using chainsaw, pto powered cordwood saw, and beat up old 4WD pickup. Oh, and the maul, never thought a motorized splitter was something I actually needed.

          2. Daniel F. Melton says

            In case you haven’t noticed, the bloom is off the rose when it comes to “renewable energy sources”. How many solar panel manufacturers are bankrupt, after huge government subsidies have been squandered? You fools are all for wind power, and then don’t want to put up with the piles of dead birds and bats that accumulate at the base of the towers, the noise, and the blighted views. Even with those “free” energy sources, the winds drop and the sun goes down.
            Fossil fuels (only coal, petroleum is a product of methane trapped in geologic formations) fuels are readily available, reasonably cheap, and comparatively safe when compared to anything but a sealed SNAP reactor, but you leftists are horrified that we should become energy independent.

    2. richardwfaith says

      Once again, we need a bounty on globalists and their puppets in our government.

  15. Jim says

    Climate Change is just a bunch of made up nonsense being put out by Liberal Morons. There are absolutely no facts to substantiate that climate change actually exists. Instead, everything being reported is based on computer models with an outcome that can be easily manipulated. Climate change IS NOT based on scientific facts.

    1. Skippy says

      I agree with you, but you need to put in words that these brainless wonders called liberals can understand. Man made Climate Change. I know what you mean, but these libs don’t.

    2. The1TruthSpeaker says

      Why do you hate America?

  16. richardwfaith says

    The suppression of debate on anthropogenic climate change is a classical case of “follow the money”, except with a twist. Globalists, in their insatiable lust for unlimited power, control government via their influence in political part”ieS”, a.k.a., the ONE-PARTY SYSTEM that they have crafted solely for their own mendacious advancement. In “gratitude” for their TENURE (which is BROKERED by said globalists), the po-LOOT-ticians allocate such GRANTS (read, MONEY) as their puppetmasters-behind-the-screen (none other than said globalists) command them. The agenda to subjugate the entire world to a GLOBALIST-ADMINISTERED one-world government, under the PRETEXT of “emergency protection of the planet” is thus advanced.

    1. tCotUS says

      AGREED…It’s All About CONTROL….

  17. tCotUS says

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/a5q2k/the_club_of_romes_world_government_climatechange/

    “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
    •Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

    “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”
    •Dr David Frame, Climate modeler, Oxford University

    “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.”
    •Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace

  18. gotcha1 says

    What do you expect from one sided educated idiots? It’s either their way or the highway. One may be better off going to another school where one is taught how to think no what to think. These brain washed frauds running around like they are teaching are a joke. Thankfully, not all professors are this way only the ones that never actually earned a day’s pay in their life.

    1. Daniel F. Melton says

      You have justly accused the majority of academia of fraud. The great majority have never earned a day’s pay by honest labor.

  19. susmart3 says

    Climate change and global warming are real. Even the Koch Bros. *own scientists* confirmed it. We no longer “debate” whether or not the earth is flat, *even though* there is one group that insists that it is. Facts are not debatable.

    1. David Stewart says

      How did you get so ignorant this early in the day? Must be a Demoncrap; you have such tunnel vision.

      1. susmart3 says

        By reading books and going to lectures on climate change AT FERMILAB in Chicago. So take it up them.

        1. coleche says

          Those lectures and the things you read are just theory. There are just as many scientist that say the opposite and that the science model used was flawed.

        2. Daniel F. Melton says

          Demand your tuition back. You’ve been robbed.

    2. Daniel F. Melton says

      Got any data to back up your assertion? A link to the admission? Provide some unassailable facts with the data to back them up.

      Oh, by the way, the official proponents of “anthropogenic global warming” have been caught altering the climate records.

      https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/how-temperature-adjustments-have-transformed-arctic-climate-history/
      How Temperature Adjustments Have Transformed Arctic Climate History

      https://patriotpost.us/posts/39655
      Another Study Exposes NOAA Temperature Fraud

      http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/09/20/massive-tampering-temperature-data-underway-global-warming-cultists/
      Massive tampering of temperature data underway by global warming cultists

      I have many more articles from a multitude of sources exposing the fraud, if you require more convincing.

    3. Skippy says

      Man made global worming and Climate change is NOT A SCIENTIFIC FACT. It hasn’t been proven you’ve been lied to. The climate has been changing for thousands of years before man had ever had any industries. Are you so arrogant to think that mankind is powerful enough to effect the weather? Back in the late 70s and early 80s when I was in the 3rd and 4th grades the big thing you people were pushing was man was causing us to go into the next ice age. Now it’s global worming. I whish you guys would make up your minds.

      1. susmart3 says

        *Actual scientists*- including those from NASA who has a pretty decent record of putting rockets into space- have been tracking this for decades. The discussion is over an 97% of scientists agree that it’s real and man is accelerating the process. On matters of global warming, I will go with scientists every time. Sorry.

        1. Skippy says

          The same NASA scientist that got caught falsifying their data and manipulating their computer modals. Also the NOAA did too. So much for the discussion being over.

          1. susmart3 says

            Discussion over, because you say so. Glad that you’re smarter than *everybody else.* Keep thinking that!

          2. Skippy says

            Why should I believe any thing the NASA and NOAA scientist say, when the were caught conspiring with other countries scientific agencies to falsify data, and manipulate their computer modals to prove that global worming was happening. I don’t disagree that the climate is changing, because the climate has been changing for thousands of years. I don’t believe that it is man made,because there isn’t enough evidence to prove it. When I said ” So much for the discussion being over” I was responding to your comment that the discussion is over, because so called 97% of scientist agree. Oh Bright One. I think your percentage of scientist is over inflated. I’ve read a lot from scientist that disagrees with man made climate change or man made global worming.

          3. susmart3 says

            Why believe anything? Because if the overwhelming scientific evidence is ignored, and the steps that may help slow the melting of the polar ice caps, etc. is not attempted, and the sea levels continually to slowly rise, and the oceans steadily heat up and kill all the microorganisims that the bigger lifeforms rely on…

            I live in the midwest and have no children, so why should I care what happens? Probably because when the coastal areas slowly start to shrink as the sea levels rise, all those people will have to come inland. But I’m sure we’ll always cooperate and get along.

            Mother Nature doesn’t give a frick about us, she will we adjust with whatever remains: cockroaches and “ice bears” (Tardigrades), little creatures that can withstand being frozen for years and more extreme heat than any other creature. We are *not* killing the planet, we are killing *ourselves.* I will miss us.

          4. Skippy says

            The same polar Ice cap that your greenie buddies got stuck in the pack ice. They had to send out two icebreakers to rescue them because the first one was to small to break the ice and it got stuck too. They were in a race against time because the ice was growing so thick fast that even the biggest one wouldn’t be able to break them out. that was at the south pole a year ago. When they measured the south pole it was the largest that it had been in decades, and it was the same for the north pole. I thought that was funny because the went down there to see how much it had shrunk. The one thing that you are leaving out of the equation is that ice displaces water and the north pole doesn’t have any land mass underneath it. That’s a lot of water that’s being displaced that you are not factoring in. As I said before I don’t believe in man made climate change. We can’t even predict the weather accurately let alone make changes to the weather or climate. We can no more change the climate than the man on the moon. You’ve bought into this lie hook line and sinker.

          5. susmart3 says

            You can believe or not believe whatever you want. As will I. But I will side with the majority of reputable scientists on this one, or the majority of people who are not.

          6. Skippy says

            You’ve been so brainwashed that even though the scientist that you look up to were caught falsifying their data and manipulating their computer modals, to prove what they believed. You still choose to believe them instead of the facts. The fact is that your greenie buddies got stuck in the pack ice in the south pole, because the ice cap was the biggest that it had been in decades. Also these so called scientist leave out the fact that the ice cap displaces the water. They purposely leave this out to scare people.

          7. susmart3 says

            So 97% of scientist*s* were falsifying their data? All 97%? Wow. Sounds like a global conspiracy. And I’m brainwashed? OK, then!

            I don’t do mechanical work on my car or my air conditioner. Some have known a little, some more than the others. And those are the ones I trust. I have people for that.

            I will not ‘debate’ global climate change and disruption with you. I have people for that.

            Carl Sagan warned agains it in the late 70s, and it was confirmed by him and other peer-reviewed scientists in the 80s. (The last lecture he gave- at a skeptics convention that I attended- showed that there were still a few holdouts on the issue. There aren’t anymore.

            I’ll stick with Carl Sagan over you / your sources.

          8. Skippy says

            Yes it was a global conspiracy. NASA and NOAA was caught conspiring with not only other counties scientific agencies they also conspired with universities from around the world. They falsified their data and manipulated their computer modals. If that’s not a global conspiracy I don’t know what is.
            I remember Carl Sagan warning that man was causing the next ice age. I was in grade school back then I had to take home material home to my parents about that. Then when that didn’t happen then you guys changed it to man made global worming. When that didn’t work now you call it man made climate change.
            I don’t believe in man made climate change. Every time we go into Fall, Winter, Spring, and Summer that’s a climate change. Also the climate has been changing for centuries, because we’ve had cooling and worming periods. that’s why I believe in climate change not man made climate change. We can no more change the global climate than the man on the moon. Heck we can’t even accurately predict the weather.
            You guys remind me of the little boy who cried wolf, and of chicken little running around saying the sky is falling.
            You said that the polar ice caps are melting. I hit you with the fact that they grew, because your greenie buddies got stuck in the pack ice about a year ago. You just ignored that fact. You also ignored the fact that your beloved scientist got caught lying. So yes I’d say that you are brainwashed.

          9. susmart3 says

            “You guys”? I think that you are a nitwit. And I will leave it at that. Have fun with your final comment, this was fine.

          10. Skippy says

            You’re just a mindless liberal drone.

  20. Gerry Costa says

    They are NOT real educators because true educators believe in debate,facts and questions and answers. The very fact that these 3 impostors won’t allow questions or other views means that they cannot back up what they are pretending to teach and are teaching what the government has proclaimed, not real facts. Every student needs to drop this course and find one that allows debate and put these 3 people in the unemployment line.

  21. daveveselenak says

    So much for the loony Leftist useful idiots believing that it was the far Right that was threatening free speech! REVOLUTION will be the final SOLUTION – guaranteed!

  22. silvernotes says

    The starting off premise of 98% is incorrect; it is a contrived number from a well know survey that anyone interested in the truth is familiar with. I think there is unequivocal evidence that the sun is the primary cause of any climate change. This is not to say we shouldn’t take care of the environment, but to suggest we should spend trillions at the cost of jobs and economic status is pure stupidity, unless you believe it is an attempt to redistribute the wealth of certain countries, particularly the USA.

  23. pysco says

    Three professors still teaching the Earth is flat…….. sail west and you will fall off the edge….

  24. glenn398 says

    College used to be for expanding the minds of the youth but today it seems like they just want to drill into the students what they only believe.

    1. Daniel F. Melton says

      It’s called ideological and cultural indoctrination.

      1. glenn398 says

        Yes the communist did a great job of that one

  25. Frank W Brown says

    Man-Made? NO! SUN CAUSED? YES! deal with THAT fact you IDIOT so-called professors!!!

    1. Betterbob says

      Not a fact non expert expert.

      1. Frank W Brown says

        Full of shit much???

        1. Betterbob says

          Interesting the only answer you are able to give is one that is filled with foul language. It gives an indication of the level of your intelligence.

      2. Frank W Brown says

        Want an expert, read John Caseys “Dark Winter” and get a grip on what’s REALLY happening with the climate, And it AIN’T man-made!!!

        1. Betterbob says

          John Casey is not even a scientist. He is an engineer. His book is supposition and is not based on data. Please tell me how John Casey (not a scientist) is the only person who is correct and all the scientists in climate areas are wrong. Casey leaves out dozens of important variables in his analysis and mainly concentrates on one thing, the sun.
          Global warming is real and a large proportion is attributable to pollution caused by humans. That is a fact. Casey is wrong.

          Casey is a retired engineer, having worked on the space shuttle at NASA for most of his career. Post-retirement, he now describes himself as a climatologist, claiming on his website that he is “one of America’s most successful climate change researchers and climate prediction experts” without providing any evidence that he has any coursework or research experience in climate science.

          So, what is Casey’s claim to fame in the realm of climatology? That the sun exhibits cycles of activity. No. Really. That is Casey’s main thesis from his 2008 paper “The existence of relational cycles of solar activity on a multidecadal to centennial scale as significant models of climate change on Earth.” Casey makes the claim that his paper was peer-reviewed but a quick search for the paper title and author on Google Scholar shows that it has never been published anywhere other than his own website. A quick review of his website shows that this is the only formal paper Casey has written on the subject beyond various “Global Climate Status Reports”

          http://environmentalforest.blogspot.com/2015/01/john-l-casey-and-climate-denial.html

          1. Frank W Brown says

            Follow the money idiot, the climate is and WILL always be changing and YES, the SUN is the major factor, so shut your money grubbing mouth about humans changing the climate, it just IS NOT TRUE!

          2. Betterbob says

            Sorry, not going to shut my mouth. I’m going to keep on saying a large proportion of climate change is due to human pollution. There, how did you like that?

          3. Frank W Brown says

            Yeah, bitterbob, keep believing the BULLSHIT propounded by OTHER IDIOTS just like YOU!

          4. Betterbob says

            I believe science not a book by an engineer who has zero qualifications in the subject area. Pretty simple huh.

          5. Frank W Brown says

            Yes, you ARE pretty SIMPLE, still an IDIOT!

          6. Betterbob says

            So what are your qualifications to claim the data was manipulated? Looks like the only qualification you have is to throw our derogatory remarks. That hardly makes you an expert on climate data.

          7. Skippy says

            Your so called scientist at NASA and NOAA was caught conspiring with other countries scientific agency and universities from around the world to falsify their data and manipulate there computer modals. So why should we believe them?

          8. Betterbob says

            Go find the truth. They were not caught conspiring and manipulating data. They adjusted the data to account for discrepancies. If you understood the science you would know that, but you don’t understand the science. I repeat, “I believe science not a book by an engineer who has zero qualifications in the subject area. Pretty simple”

          9. Skippy says

            Did I even mention a book. I did find the truth and you need to get your facts strait. There was a few retired NASA scientist that helped to expose this, and they weren’t just engineers. When they were caught they tried to delete e-mails and their computer modals, but a lot of the data and modals was recovered. So if they did what you say they did then why did they try to cover it up? They in fact did falsify data and manipulated their computer modals, and with help from the current administration allowed them to get away with it.
            John Casey if I remember correctly he has many degrees and one of them is climatology, but I’ll go and double check.
            PS. engineering is a science for future reference.

          10. Betterbob says

            PS Engineering is not a science engineering is about building things.
            I know the facts sonny. I have read the reports and I understand data and statistics. It is you that needs to learn something.

          11. Skippy says

            I told my 17 year old son what you said abought engineering and he laughed at you. He’s in a intro to engineering class at his high school and it’s under their science program. Also engineering falls under the science programs at the universities.
            You didn’t answer the question if these scientist just adjusted the data to account for discrepancies then why did they try to cover it up by deleting there the data, e-mails, and there computer modals?
            The climates been changing for thousands of years, we’ve had times of cooling and worming. It has nothing to do with man. Back in the late 70s when I was in grade school the thing you guys was pushing was man was causing the next ice age to come. That didn’t happen then it was man made global worming, and now man made climate change. You say I need to learn something. Man has no more power to change the climate than the man on the moon.
            I do believe in climate change NOT MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE. I think you need to go back to school.
            You’ve swallowed their lies hook line and sinker.

          12. Betterbob says

            Your 17 year old son may have laughed but that is because he knows no better. I have held an engineering degree for over 40 years. I also have degrees in scientific disciplines. This is what engineering is. So it to your son he may learn something.

            Engineering is the application of mathematics, empirical evidence and scientific, economic, social, and practical knowledge in order to invent, innovate, design, build, maintain, research, and improve structures, machines, tools, systems, components, materials, processes and organizations.

            Quote ” if these scientist just adjusted the data to account for discrepancies then why did they try to cover it up by deleting there the data, e-mails, and there computer modals?”

            Again, you need to go and find the facts. The email so called scandal did not involve the scientists who did the recalculation.

            Quote “I do believe in climate change NOT MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE. I think you need to go back to school.”

            I have been teaching and doing research at a major university for many years. Man has had a large influence on global warming. That is a fact.

            Try going to this website where you will find over 28,000 scientific papers that mention mans influence on climate change.

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=human+influence+climate+change

            I would suggest you have no expertise in the area and do not understand the science. You are using emotions to make your decisions instead of using facts.

          13. Skippy says

            If you are who you say you are and have been teaching at a university. You are one of these professors that is pushing an agenda and trying to brainwash your students. Just because you have degrees and teach at a university doesn’t make what you say right or even a fact.
            I have read reports from climatologists that said their research says that man isn’t causing the climate to change, that these are natural changes. There reports also have said that it’s not as bad as you guys claim. These scientist haven’t been caught falsifying their data, so I choose to believe them.
            Man made climate change hasn’t been scientifically proven yet. I know how the Scientific Method works and you guys haven’t proven it from that process. So that means man having a large influence on global worming isn’t a fact.
            I didn’t say every scientist falsified their data, but I’m saying NASA and NOAA was caught conspiring with other countries scientific agencies and universities from around the world to falsify their data and manipulate the computer modals. There was going to be an major investigation, but the Obama administration shut it down. The reason I believe for this is that the UN wants to get climate change treaties past and signed. If the full extent of this conspiracy was to come out than their treaties that there support would go away. I have looked at the facts in this.
            I have a couple of teachers that will disagree with you, and one of them is a professor. They said even though engineering uses other science it still a science.

          14. Betterbob says

            Quote ” You are one of these professors that is pushing an agenda and trying to brainwash your students.”

            Exactly what agenda am I pushing and how am I brainwashing my students? Do you even know what the term brainwashing means?

            Quote “I have read reports from climatologists that said their research says that man isn’t causing the climate to change, that these are natural changes. There reports also have said that it’s not as bad as you guys claim. These scientist haven’t been caught falsifying their data, so I choose to believe them.

            I doubt very much you have read the reports. You have probably read news reports of their reports.
            It is true that some scientists disagree with the majority opinion but that does not make them correct. Also, the so called falsified data (it was not falsified data it was corrections made to the data) had very little to do with probably over 99% of climate scientists. The way scientific theories are formed is by the collection of data. Over time a picture starts to emerge from that data and that picture is formulated into a scientific theory. As more data is forth coming so the theory is adjusted and the theory gets stronger and stronger. The theory on climate change and human involvement in that is now very strong. There is a mountain of data to support it and the majority of it has nothing to do with the corrected data but is independent of that so called controversy. The consensus in the scientific community by an overwhelming majority is climate change is real and the human factor is large.

            You say quote “I know how the Scientific Method works and you guys haven’t proven it from that process.”
            Well it appears you do not know how it works for in science it is very very rare for something to be a “proven fact”. Scientists are very very reluctant to use that word. However, theories become so strong and the evidence so overwhelming that the probability of the theory being wrong is very very low. That is the case with the climate change and human factor theory.

            Quote “I didn’t say every scientist falsified their data, but I’m saying NASA and NOAA was caught conspiring with other countries scientific agencies and universities from around the world to falsify their data and manipulate the computer modals.”

            They were not caught doing anything of the kind. They went back and recalculated old data when there were anomalies found. That is not falsifying data, that is going back and checking for errors. It is done all the time. Furthermore this story of falsifying data (which is not true) has been paired with a so called scandal at East Anglia University in the UK and had no direct confection with NOAA or NASA.

            Quote ” The reason I believe for this is that the UN wants to get climate change treaties past and signed. If the full extent of this conspiracy was to come out than their treaties that there support would go away. I have looked at the facts in this.”

            Again, this is not true. As a matter of fact the treaties have already been signed in Paris. You imply President Obama as a leader of some conspiracy but what you forget is the majority of climate scientists are not in the US and the US has no influence on their work.

            My friend, do not believe all the conspiracy theories, talk to the people that know.

          15. Skippy says

            I went to that website that you told me abought, and I read some of their so called proof. I’ll explain, I did some more digging and I found something that doesn’t add up. Some of the data that supposedly proves man mad global worming was used abought 35 years ago to prove that man was causing the next ice age. So which is it, are we going to freeze or are we going to burn up? To me you guys are nothing but a bunch of over paid snake oil salesmen.

            I googled NASA and NOAA falsifying data and came up with a bunch of articles abought it, and one caught my eye. It talked about how the Obama administration stopped the investigation into it and how that was a good thing because they thought it was a witch hunt. It also talked abought how NASA and NOAA did their own investigation and found nothing wrong, well that’s the fox guarding the hen house. You have given no proof that those scientist didn’t conspire to falsify their data.

            I know that treaties been signed in Paris, but we didn’t sign them. I also know that most of the scientist that believe in man made climate change is in other countries and doing research. I believe the other countries want us to sign these climate change treaties, that they will never follow; is because they know that it would destroy our economy. It would also drive up the cost of energy. Some of our politicians want this because it would be a power grab for them.

          16. Betterbob says

            Quote” I know that treaties been signed in Paris, but we didn’t sign them. ”
            Wrong, we did sign the treaty along wit 174 other countries. It was the Kyoto treaty in 2000 we did not sign.

            Quote ” I believe the other countries want us to sign these climate change treaties, that they will never follow; is because they know that it would destroy our economy.

            You asked me for evidence about the fact the falsified data idea is wrong. I have done that (see below).
            How about you furnish some evidence that all the 175 countries, including the US, are one big conspiracy to defraud everyone. To what purpose?

            Fact is climate change is real and man is a large contributor to climate change. Scientific evidence confirms this beyond any doubt.
            You don’t have to believe it but you are wrong.

            Quote “I went to that website that you told me abought, and I read some of their so called proof. I’ll explain, I did some more digging and I found something that doesn’t add up. Some of the data that supposedly proves man mad global worming was used abought 35 years ago to prove that man was causing the next ice age. So which is it, are we going to freeze or are we going to burn up? To me you guys are nothing but a bunch of over paid snake oil salesmen.”

            Do you have any idea how a scientific theory works? Yes you may have found “some” papers that predicted a cooling. Did you bother to find out how many predicted a warming? I’m guessing you didn’t. Scientific theory is built on data and as the data accumulates it becomes a stronger theory. How about you reference that paper so I can look at it.

            As for the falsified data nonsense. Read this. of course all these investigations from independent bodies could wel be one big conspiracy, but what would be the benefit?

            In late November 2009, more than 1,000 e-mails between scientists at the Climate Research Unit of the U.K.’s University of East Anglia were stolen and made public by an as-yet-unnamed hacker. Climate skeptics are claiming that they show scientific misconduct that amounts to the complete fabrication of man-made global warming. We find that to be unfounded:
            The messages, which span 13 years, show a few scientists in a bad light, being rude or dismissive. An investigation is underway, but there’s still plenty of evidence that the earth is getting warmer and that humans are largely responsible.
            Some critics say the e-mails negate the conclusions of a 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, but the IPCC report relied on data from a large number of sources, of which CRU was only one.
            E-mails being cited as “smoking guns” have been misrepresented. For instance, one e-mail that refers to “hiding the decline” isn’t talking about a decline in actual temperatures as measured at weather stations. These have continued to rise, and 2009 may turn out to be the fifth warmest year ever recorded. The “decline” actually refers to a problem with recent data from tree rings.

            In November 2009, the servers at the University of East Anglia in Britain were illegally hacked and emails were stolen. When a selection of emails between climate scientists were published on the internet, a few suggestive quotes were seized upon by many claiming global warming was all just a conspiracy. A number of independent enquiries have investigated the conduct of the scientists involved in the emails. All have cleared the scientists of any wrong doing:

            In February 2010, the Pennsylvania State University released an Inquiry Report that investigated any ‘Climategate’ emails involving Dr Michael Mann, a Professor of Penn State’s Department of Meteorology. They found that “there exists no credible evidence that Dr. Mann had or has ever engaged in, or participated in, directly or indirectly, any actions with an intent to suppress or to falsify data”. On “Mike’s Nature trick”, they concluded “The so-called “trick”1 was nothing more than a statistical method used to bring two or more different kinds of data sets together in a legitimate fashion by a technique that has been reviewed by a broad array of peers in the field.”
            In March 2010, the UK government’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee published a report finding that the criticisms of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) were misplaced and that CRU’s “Professor Jones’s actions were in line with common practice in the climate science community”.
            In April 2010, the University of East Anglia set up an international Scientific Assessment Panel, in consultation with the Royal Society and chaired by Professor Ron Oxburgh. The Report of the International Panel assessed the integrity of the research published by the CRU and found “no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit”.
            In June 2010, the Pennsylvania State University published their Final Investigation Report, determining “there is no substance to the allegation against Dr. Michael E. Mann”.
            In July 2010, the University of East Anglia published the Independent Climate Change Email Review report. They examined the emails to assess whether manipulation or suppression of data occurred and concluded that “we find that their rigour and honesty as scientists are not in doubt.”
            In July 2010, the US Environmental Protection Agency investigated the emails and “found this was simply a candid discussion of scientists working through issues that arise in compiling and presenting large complex data sets.”
            In September 2010, the UK Government responded to the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee report, chaired by Sir Muir Russell. On the issue of releasing data, they found “In the instance of the CRU, the scientists were not legally allowed to give out the data”. On the issue of attempting to corrupt the peer-review process, they found “The evidence that we have seen does not suggest that Professor Jones was trying to subvert the peer review process. Academics should not be criticised for making informal comments on academic papers”.
            In February 2011, the Department of Commerce Inspector General conducted an independent review of the emails and found “no evidence in the CRU emails that NOAA inappropriately manipulated data”.
            In August 2011, the National Science Foundation concluded “Finding no research misconduct or other matter raised by the various regulations and laws discussed above, this case is closed”.

          17. Skippy says

            I’ve just caught you in a lie, We didn’t sign any climate change treaties in Paris. I googled it to be sure. The only thing we came to was an accord, that’s not a treaty. Now let me educate the professor. This is my area of expertise The Constitution. The president of the United States just can’t sign a treaty with anyone, because Congress must give it’s approval for passage. The treaty provision class in The Constitution gives Congress the power to approve any treaty without that no treaty can be signed

            Yes I know how scientific theory works and man made global worming is just a theory not scientific fact. So it’s not a scientific fact yet. It just wasn’t a few papers on the cooling it was a lot. Man caused next ice age was the main push from the late 50s to the mid 80s. So there was a lot of information abought it. I remember this I had to take reading material home to my parent from school in the late 70s.
            There was no major independent investigation done and by the time the small investigation was done all the evidence was destroyed. The independent investigation wasn’t done in a timely manner.

            I caught you in a lie so why should I believe you?

          18. Betterbob says

            You did not catch me in a lie. I made a mistake and you have no need to educate me on the constitution. I know who has to sign treaties.

            As for you knowing about how scientific theory works. You very obviously do not know. According to you nothing in science that is a theory is a fact. Therefore it follows the theory of evolution means evolution is not an fact. The germ theory means that germs are not a fact. The theory of gravity means that gravity is not a fact. The word “theory ” in science has a totally different meaning than the colloquial meaning.It would behove you to learn what it means.

            Quote”There was no major independent investigation done and by the time the small investigation was done all the evidence was destroyed. ”

            I don’t know where you got your information from but I would not consider an investigation by the UK government’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee a small investigation after the all the evidence was destroyed. There was a total 4 major investigations, the evidence was not destroyed and all found no evidence of foul play.

            NOW I COULD SAY YOU LIED BUT I DON’T WORK THAT WAY WITHOUT EVIDENCE. YOU PROBABLY MADE A MISTAKE.

            You should not go accusing people of lying when you don’t know the circumstances,

            In March 2010, the UK government’s House of Commons Science and Technology Committee published a report finding that the criticisms of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) were misplaced and that CRU’s “Professor Jones’s actions were in line with common practice in the climate science community”.

          19. Skippy says

            PS engineering is a science.

          20. Betterbob says

            No engineering ins not a science. Engineering is supported by various sciences but is not a science in of its self.

            Engineering is the application of mathematics, empirical evidence and scientific, economic, social, and practical knowledge in order to invent, innovate, design, build, maintain, research, and improve structures, machines, tools, systems, components, materials, processes and organizations.

          21. Skippy says

            I have a couple of teachers that would disagree with you< and one of them is a professor. They said even though engineering uses other science it's still a science.

          22. Betterbob says

            Well tell them that I am a long time professor and I say they are wrong. Although there is research in engineering, it uses discoveries from other sciences to advance. It is not a science in and of itself.

          23. Skippy says

            Well I don’t even know you for all I know you may not even be a professor. I know these people I think I’ll trust them. You don’t know how long he’s been a professor he may have been doing this longer than you.

          24. Betterbob says

            I have been a professor and published researcher for many years (over 30). I also hold a degree in engineering. Please tell your son to tell his teachers and your professor friend that engineering is not a science. It is supported by science.

            Engineering. The application of scientific and mathematical principles to practical ends such as the design, manufacture, and operation of efficient and economical structures, machines, processes, and systems.

          25. Skippy says

            Again for all I know you’re just blowing smoke.

          26. Skippy says

            I was wrong abought John Casey He has a BS in physics and mathematics, a masters in business. There was a climatologist that did wright a book on how man made global worming was wrong. I haven’t read his book got mixed up with John Casey’s book. Don’t count out his book yet, because he’s president of a company that is doing it’s own climate research. He wrote that book off of their research. Yes they do have climatologist working there. I can’t comment on his book because I haven’t read it yet. I didn’t bring John Casey up you did.

          27. Betterbob says

            Actually I did not bring up John Casey. Frank W Brown bought him up and I was replying to him. Before he bought it up I had never heard of John Casey.

          28. Skippy says

            Then why did you bring it up in your response to me? I didn’t say anything about him or his book.

          29. Betterbob says

            Probably because you got in the middle of the conversation I was having with someone else.

  26. Natalie says

    The earth is flat! Flat I tell you! If you keep walking in one direction you will fall off! The science is settled! Now, let me tell your future by the bumps on your head!

  27. TPS12 says

    So the idea of higher learning/education does not include debate. Seems the idea of learning just got put in a box.

    1. Betterbob says

      Sometimes it includes debate and sometimes it doesn’t.

  28. jimdarnall says

    These liberal professors can t deal with the truth, therefore no debates aloud. It’s not about ignorance any longer. It’s all about pushing a lie to continue an agenda. Liberals and those like Obama and Hillary are about control and power with true science having no place. Facts also are not aloud into any discussion or debate. They all know they would lose every argument if truths and facts played a role. Basically we have become just another leftwing, dictorial nation with no options for the people.

    1. Betterbob says

      Man’s contribution to climate change is not a lie.

  29. John Williams says

    Remember this is the beginning of the end of our 1st Amendment, it will fall just as the nanny state liberals will attempt to destroy the rest of the amendments and the entire document itself.

    1. Betterbob says

      Another wild eyed conspiracy theory with no basis in reality.

      1. John Williams says

        You sir, are too stupid to see what is happening around you, I wish you luck because in with your ignorance you are going to need it.

        1. Betterbob says

          No sir, I am not to stupid as you put it to see what is going on around me. I look at it from a different perspective than you and I see good things not conspiracy theories. I do not need luck.

          1. John Williams says

            I see good things as well, but your naivete as to what is being done under the guise of political correctness and the farce of climate change means, simply, that you need more luck than I first thought. I would suggest since you look at it from a different perspective, for you to back off and look at a distance to see what the actual outcome is not what the talking points say. When dealing with the socialist/liberal/progressive/democrats, one must always look at actions and results, not what they say and not what they tell you.

          2. Betterbob says

            Quote “I see good things as well, but your naivete as to what is being done under the guise of political correctness and the farce of climate change means, simply, that you need more luck than I first thought.”
            I need no luck. I read the scientific literature and see what is going on. You are free to believe what a small minority of the scientific community believes, but I prefer to go with the large consensus of the scientific body.

            Quote ” I would suggest since you look at it from a different perspective, for you to back off and look at a distance to see what the actual outcome is not what the talking points say. ”

            Really! Please tell me what these so called outcomes are instead of giving overgeneralized conjecture about a political philosophy you happen to disagree with. Be sure you give me good solid verifiable references to back up your arguments.
            I see the result of inaction and the consequences will be disastrous if we don’t take more action. I already see the outcomes and it appears I see them better than you.

          3. John Williams says

            We will agree to disagree on the ” large consensus of the scientific body.” You base your decision on the “so called 98%” but remember percentages are the easiest thing to manipulate, i.e. 50% of 2 is 1 but in the grand scheme one is not very much, if you hand pick the scientists who you already know their opinion, those whose money comes from government grants, they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, 49 hand picked scientists out of 50 will give you your 98%, again in the grand scheme not very much. I find it very disturbing that those who push climate change, are guilty of data manipulation to make their projections agree with their consensus and those, like in this very article, who refuse to let the other side speak, this to me is a large red flag. I do not disagree with the concept of climate change, it changes daily, where I disagree is the big push that we, mankind are almost totally responsible for it and the only ones who can fix the problem is the government. You may trust your government I do not. As far as my “overgeneralized conjecture about a political philosophy” goes if you cannot see what is happening, your mind is already made up, then anything that I show you or tell you you are not going to agree with anyway, it would be a waste of your time and mine, but if you chose to look, you are tripping over it on a daily basis.

          4. Betterbob says

            Quote “You base your decision on the “so called 98%” but remember percentages are the easiest thing to manipulate, i.e. 50% of 2 is 1 but in the grand scheme one is not very much, if you hand pick the scientists who you already know their opinion, those whose money comes from government grants, they are not going to bite the hand that feeds them”

            It is very interesting that your rebuttal is full of innuendo and unsubstantiated statements. It is very obvious you know nothing about government funding of research grants. You also know very little or nothing at how a consensus is arrived at. I never mentioned the 98% I talked of a consensus of the scientific literature. You also imply there is a vast conspiracy of US scientists who all bandied together to give out false information. Well that is not true, but even if were you have even more scientist outside the US whose published works are part of the consensus. I’m sorry but you cannot just blow off a whole literature of scientific data with the idea that all scientists are corrupt just because you do not like their results.

            Quote ‘I find it very disturbing that those who push climate change, are guilty of data manipulation” Where is your evidence that this has happened. I have yet to see it. Again, unsubstantiated conjecture.

            Quote ” and those, like in this very article, who refuse to let the other side speak,”. The reason he said no discussion was the class was not about climate change and if he had let the discussion continue he would not have time to teach the subject matter of the course. Because you want to read conspiracy into everything does not make it so.

            Quote ” As far as my “overgeneralized conjecture about a political philosophy” goes if you cannot see what is happening, your mind is already made up, then anything that I show you or tell you you are not going to agree with anyway”

            That is a pretty poor excuse for not presenting any evidence in your defense. more to the point is you have no evidence so you skirt around it with phrases like the one above. That gives you no credibility.

          5. John Williams says

            The consensus of the scientific literature you speak of is based on the so called 98%, the government and the purveyors of climate change don’t allow any other opinion. Other information is out there, (including on data manipulation by researchers, after all the projection (that is all it is is a projection, just cannot be wrong and they must explain why it is not working) I am not going to do your research for you and then have you tell me that my sources are not credible, or they are not true, that is exactly what I always get out of the useful idiots. You have your opinion and I have mine, neither of us is likely to change our minds. Again, you are stumbling over the evidence on my “overgeneralized conjecture about a political philosophy”if you choose to step over and ignore it that is your option.

          6. Betterbob says

            Got it, You have zero evidence for your claims so you say you will not reveal your evidence because I will challenge it. Poor excuse.
            Incidentally, the so called manipulation of data was a recalculation for very good reasons. I suggest you learn something about statistics for you obviously know nothing, have not even seen the data and are just following your party line. Your just another conspiracy theorist with nothing to back you up except conjecture and innuendo and that does not qualify as science.

      2. richardwfaith says

        FYI, our very republic is the outcome of a very successful conspiracy. Just ask ole King George (and, this time, I DON’T mean soro$$$$$$!). Conspiracies not only exist; they abound. You wouldn’t recognize one if it hit you in the face.

        1. Betterbob says

          Quote “FYI, our very republic is the outcome of a very successful conspiracy.” I don’t need you telling me about history sonny, your not very good at it.
          Also, we live in a democratic republic where you have the opportunity to put forward viable candidates whom the electorate feel are capable of governing. The fact that the right is so disorganized the best they can do is the chump is the rights fault and no one elses. The gun is not the answer to everything. It is not the answer to anything. It is a way for everyone to lose everything.

  30. RichFromShowMe says

    Evidently, we must assume these “pinheads” blame the Cavemen, running around in their SUV’s, or was it dinosaur flatulence, that warmed the lands after the 4 or 5 ice ages the earth has experienced?

    Education, in the old days, was the free exchange of ideas and ideals which was the engine that advanced society . . . . these “pinheads” evidently want to reverse that progress?

    Next, like the Nazi’s, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot and other dictators . . . these “pinheads” will tell their students that anyone who disagrees with anything they say will be banished from the classroom and driven from the University.

    1. Betterbob says

      He was saying the class does not need to get bogged down in a debate at the expense of the other materiel. Also, any goofball who says man does not contribute considerably to climate change either knows nothing about the science, which is usually the case, or they have their head in the sand. It does not matter whether you say 98%, 90%, 85%, or even 80% of scientists, especially scientists who specialize in some aspect of climate, agree, the point is a large consensus agree that man contributes to climate change. Do you get dissenters, yes, but they are in a small minority and being in a small minority does not make them right. Consensus drives science.

      1. RichFromShowMe says

        I assume you mean by “other materiel”, simply leaving out salient FACTS?

        Ironic, that the great majority of scientists who agree on Global Cooling, Warming, Climate Disruption or whatever the buzz word currently is, are raking in millions in “research revenue” . . . . quite often relying on bogus data.

        I, for one, readily admit human activity does affect our Climate and weather patterns, which have been changing for eons.

        But, for instance, does closing out the coal industry and electric generation really make sense as humans feel they need electricity.

        Waaaaaaaaaaay back in the 1970’s when I worked for Kaiser Aluminum smokestack “scrubbers” were a high priority and for good reason . . . . the EPA is now verging on eliminating breathing as that is just one more carbon emitter to control or tax out of existence.

        As stated earlier, “Education, in the old days, was the free exchange of ideas and ideals”, by which the world has pulled itself out of the primordial slime of the eons.

        Now we are looking down the gun barrel; i.e., ‘Rotten to the Core’ (some still call it Common Core).

        1. Betterbob says

          Quote “I assume you mean by “other materiel”, simply leaving out salient FACTS?”
          You assume wrong. I have taught for many years and it is easy to get sidetracked away from the main topic of the class by some side issue. That is what I a am talking about.

          Quote “But, for instance, does closing out the coal industry and electric generation really make sense as humans feel they need electricity.”
          Yes it does make sense. We do not need electricity at the expense of all the pollution and ailments burning coal causes. I have seen first hand the tragic consequences of coal pollution. It should be phased out and renewables bought in over a period. If it cost the consumer a bit more so be it. It is offset by the reduction in medical costs that are caused by air pollution.

          Quote “the EPA is now verging on eliminating breathing as that is just one more carbon emitter to control or tax out of existence.” That is a totally ridiculous statement.

          Quote “Education, in the old days, was the free exchange of ideas and ideals”
          I suggest you go trying taking classes at the local University. There is no age limit and you will find education is way better than the quote “old days”.

          1. RichFromShowMe says

            I do agree that renewable’s are the way to go, but they will never replace coal and gas fired generation plants until they become way more efficient, which is in the works . . . but in who’s lifetime.

            I also have taught at the University-level (Computer Science) and discussions brought out by differing opinions is part of the learning experience.

            Sounds to me like you’re using the “Rotten-to-the-Core”, “absence of creativity in the classroom”, model?

            Holdren, obamba’s science czar, would limit the population if he had his way.

            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth.html

  31. Lorraine E says

    The teachers/professors/indoctrinators don’t necessarily believe the global warming lie they just want to keep their very lucrative jobs. Global warming is a big hoax created to further tax and control people world wide. There are currently 15 governments which create and control the entire planet’s weather and it has been ongoing since the 1960’s. Check the geoengineeringwatch.org web site.

    1. richardwfaith says

      If what you say is true, the certainly haven’t had much success controlling these hurricanes and tornadoes here in Florida.

  32. bdcorvette says

    The 98% figure is a lie that can be easily disproven with a bit of net research. It has amazed me that these charlatans make statements that they either cannot or will not defend, instead discouraging debate by slamming the door in the faces of their critics. They are moral (?) cowards. Prime example: The Gore Bore.

  33. richardwfaith says

    Historically all the way back to ancient Greece, universities have been understood to be places of debate. The professor described in the article has clearly crossed the line and demoted the university to the status of Indoctrination Center. Even this decay is far from unprecedented, however; going back to ancient Greece, Socrates was sentenced by the state (a SO-CALLED “democracy”!!!) to drink hemlock for teaching his beliefs. We have clearly come full circle.

  34. stratus46 says

    I see 3 ‘professors’ who deserve to be unemployed.

    “this theory is indeed supported by the vast majority of climate scientists ” Is that true or are those just the ones who responded? We can’t even get a definite answer on THAT.

  35. GuardianFlame says

    Higher education is based on debate of the subject matter. That is what encourages students to learn and also teaches Instructors that they, indeed, DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND. Colorado is one of the most “liberal” states, so to hear the absurdity of instructors telling prospective students they can’t debate what they will be taught goes hand in hand with that entire state.
    C L U E L E S S Meatheads!

    If anyone, including these arrogant liberal instructors, wants to research our earth’s weather patterns the past few centuries, all you have to do is consult the Farmer’s Almanac which goes back hundreds of years. With good researching skills, you will come to the conclusion that the earth goes through weather changes — ice ages– warming ages– etc. every so many years. There IS a pattern that is repeated right on schedule — no matter what mankind has done to our earth. Mankind has not “created” Global Warming. It is the “Warming” cycle we are currently living in!

    So for those clueless and stubborn headed instructors who think they have all the answers, RESEARCH THE FARMER’S ALMANAC. They will feel like the fools they are. Hopefully the prospective students are more intelligent than those moronic meatheads and drop their classes – then the College will have to scrub that subject matter off their “Classes” list and hopefully remove the arrogant instructors from their faculty!

  36. R. T. says

    What does climate change have to do with medical , yes different climates have different medical problems . Change has nothing to do with it except if you go from one to another quickly

  37. Joseph Nicholas Toth Jr. says

    I can understand that, they don’t want to be made to look stupid. I guess these institutions of higher learning, or just a front for indoctrination centers. They are no more interested in the truth, then the Pope is interested in defending the gospel.

  38. The Blue Collar Man says

    One thing that is really, really nice about “Global ——— (whatever), is this has been going on long enough we now have a track record to look at, and NOTHING predicted has happened. So, how can you believe in something that never occurs? (hint, don’t bring up Religion, stay on topic)
    I’ve seen articles that say George Soros gave millions to Al Gore to fund his movement. Al baby is very rich now. The Feds supply money for researchers, who must find something going on, so they continue to rake in the money. Imagine if they said this was all bunk. I would think the Fed money flow would stop. Do you really think the researchers would shut off their money supply?

  39. Gerald A. Reason says

    What these professors (not scientists) have done is a disgrace to all science. We, in America, have allowed the media to indoctrinate us based on “Pseudo-Science” rather than “real science.” The history of global climate change goes far back, beyond the days when man even existed on earth. There is evidence that there were times of more rapid and more radical heating and cooling periods in the earth’s history. To say man is responsible is to deny the existence of historical evidence, (or in many cases, the manipulation and targeted selection of same). There was a time when academia claimed to be a place where issues could be freely explored and examine issues, to arrive at truth. Today, however, the free investigation only exists when one wants to try and prove another support for an issue it (academia) has decided is unchallengeable truth.

    I have faced processors, back in the 60’s, who would destroy a student’s GPA when the student, using the very techniques the professor instructed us to use (It was an argumentation and debate class) to disapprove a position he had taken on an issue. On the other hand, I have enountered professors who, when you presented an argument against what they believed, and supported it with facts (not opinions) you were rewarded for thinking. Today, academia is turn out knowledgeable people who cannot even think past what they have been taught and have become, to a large extent, simple parrots of its agenda.

  40. Thomas Martin says

    Global warming is a crock of democrat BS, every thing they say is pure BS.

  41. Deborah G says

    These professors are NOT interested in education through healthy debate and discourse rather indoctrination. Here’s what I did. I told my kids IF you want me to pay for college you will NOT attend a liberal cesspool. If you wish me to pay for a second semester I need to see the course description because I refuse to spend hard earned money on BULLSHIT like how Homosexuals created America or some other idiocy. IF you don’t like the conditions feel free to work your way through whatever college you choose. We’ll see you at Christmas if you have enough for airfare. I will donate whatever college funds I have set aside for you to a conservative College and have some kid begging to go there paid for

  42. sox83cubs84 says

    It sounds like these professors are cowards who don’t want to be made to look like idiots by debating an intelligent conservative student.

  43. YOUGUESS says

    If they read the Non-Cult books that they don’t recognize a Legitimate Science, they might find out that the EARTH,MOTHER NATURE, OUR PLANET, Makes 99.96 percent of the green house gasses through Volcanic Activity. That alone would tell them that MAN is making only .04%. You ask how can that be, there is very little volcanic activity. Hawaii is one many active volcano, that Produce GHG, any volcano on the Pacific Rim even undersea 10 of thousand small Volcanoes that allow, Bubbles up through the ocean and if you,looked at a map you’ll see, its almost 1/3 of the earths crust. That a lot of surface to leak GHG or green house gasses. And a Resent, New Research Study from the Antarctic Research Team shows that most of the melting of the Antarctic Ice Plate there, and in the Greenland Ice sheet is do to warm water from Under SEA Volcanic Activity, Not AIR SURFACE TEMPERATURE that is causing the melting of the ICE. And there is a lot of Volcanic in Greenland. So that new research alone Proves that this Professor is Teaching Junk Science. Just read you’ll Find out the truth. Don’t be a Sheep of a cult with out Foundation……

  44. MTnman says

    To allow discussion of CC in the classroom may show disagreement with liberal ideology; it is not about CC, but cultural Marxism. CC is merely a disguise.

  45. Ken says says

    God knows they don’t want to debate climate change – all the scientific research that proves “global warming” is a scam would be allowed in a debate – it is a money maker for the Establishment and their friends so you don’t debate it. Don’t doubt the Puppets that give the official word.

  46. mangins says

    I think I will have to go back to college to even understand this article!

  47. kibitzer3 says

    The irony is that these leftists are being used by the REAL movers and shakers behind this scam – those of the corporate-government-complex persuasion, who want to put a bullseye on us ‘useless eaters,’ as carbon emitters, to hurry along our demise, to their desired population level for the planet. A planet that they mean to rule. Not the idealistic watermelons.

  48. Patriot068 says

    The country is turning into a NAZI STYLE POLICE STATE!! , the people with the DEGREES INDOCTINATING OUR KIDS! WHO ARE TOLD what is right & wrong and NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION ANYTHING!:THAT’S NOT TEACHING! IT’S “INDOCTRINATION” just like NAZI Germany did ! When students AREN’T ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS or DEBATE ANYTHING THEN IT’S TIME TO FIND ANOTHER INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING! where stuff is TAUGHT! & PARTICIPATION IS ENCOURAGED!! SEEMS TO ME THOSE ASS-HOLE PROFESSORS JUST LIKE TYPICAL LIBERAL IDIOTS THROW A TANTRUM WHEN THEIR WAY OF THINKING IS QUESTIONED AND ANOTHER IS GEEEEE! MAYBE THEY HAVEN’T GOT THE TRUE FACTS TO BACK THEIR INDOCTINATING BS UP!! Also learning gets stagnated when professors like this teach!! It’s just like in our past when the same type of PROFESSORS! Would be the ones claiming that the EARTH WAS FLAT!! CIRCLE!!! ( THAT’S SCARY)

  49. John Topper says

    Old saying, ” They have eyes but see not and ears but hear not.” Those who deny OUR impact on the environment are fools. We do impact our environment. Esteemed scientists give us proof many times over but there are those who can’t see or don’t want to see the data. It’s easier to just deny this fact than to contribute to it’s cure.

  50. Michael says

    They are so terrified of people finding out the truth about so called man made climate change. It is a hoax. If they had truth on their side they would not fear rigorous debate. At tone time, college professors welcomed debate.

  51. bobby1122 says

    I remember when 2 U of Colorado professors went across the country and studied the placement of the temperature measuring devices. most were not placed properly( near heat exhaust vents- bad readings- on asphalt roofs- bad readings – Those profs concluded that ” The FIX was in” – are they still alive??

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  53. randy jackson says

    Do these brain dead Socialists understand the Constitution?
    The 1st Amendment advocates “free speech”.
    If these weasels were on the receiving end of a constitutional prejudice—–they’d be front page news.
    BULLSHIT—-my children will not attend this school!
    The only way to effect this nonsense is to hit their budget.
    Let them wither on the vine and bring on the death rattle.
    This school sucks!

    1. 4freedom says

      That’s what progressives believe in, free speech is for me, not thee.

      1. Daniel F. Melton says

        You’ve noticed that too?

  54. REK says

    That’s correct there is no debate because everyone knows the climate change hustle is another way democrats can steel from the American people with no resistance

  55. willr3 says

    Liberals are very open minded as long as you don’t disagree with them or present them with facts

  56. RsGoat says

    Reading the title for this class I’m not sure why the subject was even brought up, they would have done better leaving it alone and then it would not have had to be addressed at all.
    Arguments against warming stretch all over the map from scientific to the news reports of those who played with results and inputs to get results which placed a heavy load of doubt on the public hearing those reports. Why if something was so true did people need to play with data? And the debate question raises another level of doubt since there are those who disagree with the popular side of this argument but don’t get the air time and more of this second group are working their way to the surface as time passes.
    But my questioning science began a long time ago with the study of Saccharine, The reports of England one day becoming a glacial field followed by planetary starvation and other end of world predictions. I stopped worrying about the end of the world a long time ago It might have something to do with having survived the Cold War where we were going to blow up our planet in a cloud of nuclear radiation too!
    How about the report that the hole in our ozone repaired itself long before it was expected to heal. One theory in the carbon in our atmosphere, the same stuff global warming groups want to get rid of, helped seal the hole and had a healing effect!
    Would it not be strange if what the global warming people want to stop actually feeds our ozone, keeping it health and by cutting it off we damage that layer opening our planet to damage form outside. In essence those working so hard to save us would be the ones to kill us? Funny in a sick kind of way. Maybe we should debate this subject. For eons our planet has had woodland fires, volcanic eruptions and smoke form hundreds of thousands of fires keeping people warm or cooking their food but now most of that is being done cleanly. I wonder if there is some kind of balance between the two?

    1. Daniel F. Melton says

      “Anthropogenic Global Warming” is an attempt to destroy the capitalist economic engine by means of instilling a panic in the population. Nothing less.

      1. RsGoat says

        I hate conspiracy theories, they tend to grow more ignorant as people work harder to prove them true which is why I hate yours so much. It makes more sense then the science. NO, That is not completely true but we have so many twits out in the world who have been educated to see capitalism as bad as well as our existence on the planet as being harmful to it’s existence that i can see how people might fall into an ideology to dismantle most anything.
        Let’s face facts after 200 years the evidence is in on Marx. Both of his ideas communism and socialism are not working well. China and Russia had to adopt capitalist economic engines to fuel their economies just to pull themselves out of debt, feed and provide for their people while we have been able to operate and thrive while paying for 2 world wars and rebuilding the world!
        Yes we have had some ups and downs but we have always recovered as a nation and continued on, We will do it again too. The best way is by listening to JFK and his 1962 speech at the Astoria. It can be found on line. He did not like Hillary’s idea of “shovel ready jobs rebuilding infrastructure. Thought that kind of spending lead to demoralizing the american public but allowing industry to create jobs was the answer to many problems including paying of the national debt!
        I am confused how educators can’t look at history and find success and failures to realize that what we have is a good thing and start teaching that again!

        1. Daniel F. Melton says

          Hate my theory all you want, but the evidence is there…

          How many of those on the forefront of the global warming/ecology movement have a history that involves socialist or outright communist organizations? We skeptics call ’em “watermelons”. Green on the outside, red on the inside. They’ve let fall enough quotes to braid a rope to hang ’em with.

          Socialists, communists, and globalists don’t give up simply because they have a two century record of failure. They’re still laboring under the delusion that the “right” people haven’t been in charge of the efforts, and those evil capitalists are conspiring with the disillusioned counter revolutionaries to destroy the worker’s paradise they labor so hard to keep on life support.

          They’ll never teach of the success exemplified by the United States and its’ capitalist economic engine. That would be an admission that their entire philosophy is a lie.

          1. RsGoat says

            A pattern is there which can resemble a theory of conspiracy but for it to be a conspiracy it requires a leading group or organization, intelligent one at that. I don’t believe we our institutions could produce people like that. look at what happen when we were on the trail of Osama bin laden, Educated people found out were tracking him by cell phone use but instead of keeping it quiet until he was caught they put it on the air so all of his operatives would know this and could then save him! Next they turn and blame our intelligence agencies for being unable to locate him? Do these sound like the kind of people who could run a conspiracy?
            next up try chapter 3 of Bill Oriely’s ?Looking out for you” and you will find another great example of the human capacity for subterfuge, not! What we have is an idea floating around that “smart people” like and fall into the trap of believing which then looks like a conspiracy instead of the idocy of a new and more dangerous group to our country’s safety the “Induhlectual”!
            They only learn enough of a slanted view of history to be dangerous. We need to know not just our history but that of the Cold War and countries involved in it, you would be surprised at life behind the Iron Curtain.

          2. Daniel F. Melton says

            ***look at what happen when we were on the trail of Osama bin laden,
            Educated people found out were tracking him by cell phone use but
            instead of keeping it quiet until he was caught they put it on the air
            so all of his operatives would know this and could then save him! ***

            As I recall, h. clinton was sec state at that time. Do you wonder about all the emails that were destroyed?

            ***Do these sound like the kind of people who could run a conspiracy? ***

            Disciples of saul alinsky.

            ***try chapter 3 of Bill Oriely’s ?Looking out for you”***

            No thanks. O’riely strikes me as bombastic and opinionated and can’t be bothered to learn about anything he disapproves, such as guns.

            ***fall into the trap of believing which then looks like a conspiracy
            instead of the idocy of a new and more dangerous group to our country’s
            safety the “Induhlectual”!***

            If they’re all doing it for the same reason, isn’t it close enough to a conspiracy to merit that appellation?

            ***you would be surprised at life behind the Iron Curtain.***

            Studied ’em, fought ’em.

          3. RsGoat says

            Learned nothing. Saul was all about not being organized so your group could not be broken up. His book rules for radicals was designed to help those who wanted to work for a cause do so by themselves, yes in it’s way a conspiracy but not one a person can trace since it is part of or educational system and they don’t know it which makes it impossible to fight unless you have some wild idea how. A war of ideas has to be fought with ideas and just like Saul they must be worked in and proven beyond doubt to be effective, even then there will be doubters.
            In that chapter I told you about you would have discovered when Bill found out the CIA used bad boys to get good information on the enemy then stopped it which caused many section chiefs to quit overseas posts leaving inexperienced men to take their place. The section chiefs knew they could no longer do their jobs with out bad guys watching bad guys and baled!
            That left us dark for a long time. to make matters worse the FBI now in the same place stopped communicating with the CIA because in briefings with Bill if information came up and it may have come from an improper source they caught hell. The White House briefings became walk thru’s, just empty noise. By the time George got in office those worthless briefings told little to nothing and the Al Qaeda network had formed in full. It is no wonder we were blind sided by them and that President Bush in his efforts to fix the problem set up Homeland Security so the CIA and FBI had no excuses for not communicating with each other. there is more in that book but if you chose to remain ignorant be my guest. I am more accustom to college kids who think like you, Thank You for your service. another good book is High Treason from a defector Vladimir Sokarov, his story explains a lot of the hate from Islamic countries developed during the oil developing time of the Cold War years.
            My father taught me a lot and one thing he made sure I knew was there is always more to learn, don’t stop.

          4. RsGoat says

            And now Dan I’m going to apologize for my harsh words and call you into action. Saul came at our Constitution sideways if you read his book “rules for radicals” and it infected our colleges which trained our journalist and they feed us our news. First he told his f boys don’t be radicals but look like and act like everyone else. Learn to take the words they use and use those same words against them. That is why we have a right to health care? sound familiar? Not in the constitution is it? That was a Saul ploy. Talking about conspiracy gives the liberals room to poke fun because they are so hard to prove. while working on little points and chipping away at their agenda like they have been doing to our Constitutions for decades is more effective.
            If the media doesn’t like a broad caster take a closer look at that person since most media, over 60 percent by their own polls belong or vote strong democratic party lines which have changed a lot since the times of John F Kennedy. Don’t believe me check out his 1962 speech at the Astoria hotel, that is an eye opener!
            The youth need education and if you have seen soviet life and lines for simple things like toilet paper just for every day living you could testify better then many and that is what you should be doing.
            Do it with out words of hate like a kindly grandfather type as best you can. Direct them to proof even if they don’t seem to want it. We are working on a brick wall with feathers and planting seeds in barren soil but if God wills it may grow the fruit we need to pull our country back together. The damage done by people playing with theories in our colleges will take a long time to repair and I can think of no better place to begin then with the tools we have at hand.

          5. Daniel F. Melton says

            You aren’t the only one who has divined their strategy. I would suggest you read this: https://patriotdepot.com/rules-for-conservative-radicals/
            We have been somewhat stymied over the last few elections by the blatant politicization of the irs, and it’s time to start taking heads.

            I don’t utilize “kindly grandfather” tactics. I ask questions and I demand answers without equivocation. When I smell a quibble or a hesitation I hammer it. Some of my favorite victims are global warming fanatics and racists of every stripe.

          6. RsGoat says

            Thanks for the book notification, always like more.ideas and information. You may not need this but a myth buster site on global warming without all the extra internet stuff is friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=3 Click on the Friends of Science line in a search and it will provide useful information you will like and our media fails to report. I can’t find the report that claimed CO2 was a posible factor in what has helped to heal the hole in our ozone, I only remember reading an article mentioning it and thought I saved it to file but can’t find it either. It is one of those mornings. I’ve been teasing the global warmers with the idea if it was possible for one to heal then would it not be possible by eliminating the presence could we do damage? I know i is stupid but just planting a seed of doubt..
            I hope the web site proves useful.

  57. usathoughts says

    Quote: “Professors aren’t attempting to indoctrinate their students with deliberate lies; they believe that man-made global warming is real and that it will have disastrous consequences for humanity. And since supported by the majority of climate scientists, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be taught in this course.”

    The operative word for this professor is “Belief”, better yet, “Faith”. It has kinship with Religion. Statements and Terms taken out of context have little to no meaning. To wit; Theory, Scientific, Scientist, Man Made, Global Warming, Global Cooling, Climate Change, Predictive Analysis.

    There are three branches of Science qualified to make proper inquiry into this topic. Physicist whose main goal is to understand the Inorganic Physical aspects of our universe, Chemistry which investigate both the Organic and Inorganic aspects of our world, and the Biological which concerns itself with all living matter.

    The topic of this article requires the input of all three of the above sciences. Have read close to 100 articles on the subject. Have yet to see individual qualifications given nor peer reviewed data.

    There are considerable discussions regarding “Deniers”. But really, know of no one who denies climate changes – have 4.5 billion years of evidence. Nor does anyone deny all living organisms affect climate to some degree.

    A recent Astrophyiscist Theory has confirmed the Sun’s activity in the coming decade will affect Climate Change for an expected period of three decades. It will result in Global Cooling but to an unknown degree other than it is not expected to be extreme. Not one word of this has been referenced in the literature. Why, can’t tax the Sun!

  58. Robert Cruder says

    Science is about proposing parts of the truth and trying to disprove them. One never makes absolutely pure gold but gets closer by removing dross.

    When a claim has already been shown to be false, reintroducing it is like adding lead to gold. Preventing that denies no right to free speech because like Ronald Reagan, the professor owns the microphone. Furthermore, it denies other students what they paid for.

    Climate change is consistently supported by physics, chemistry and all of the Earth sciences. There is no alternative set of rules to explain known measurements except for a magical finger in the sky adjusting weather moment-by-moment. That is superstition, not science. .

    The same is true for a young Earth (actually 3.2+ Billion years old), a young universe (actually 13.4+ Billion years old) and biological evolution (without which biological science does not hold together).

    If any religious belief gets free time then every one must. How many of the 10,000 or so past religions get time when each believer KNOWS that all of the others are lies. How much time remains for knowledge?

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  60. Nina Ferguson says

    I thought that college taught you the value of debate and learning. Apparently, now it teaches you that “I’M RIGHT, AND YOU ARE WRONG,” end of discussion.

  61. junkmailbin says

    time to flush liberal turds

  62. senseimitch says

    For an article advocating intelligent discussion a little more research into your own material is in order. To support your exposure of the one-sided, kill all other views approach of the global warming crowd, you march out the Catholic Church and their punishment of Galileo. Amusingly you are wrong, the Catholic Church punished Galileo for the same reasons Global Warming advocates should be punished. Galileo stated as fact that the Sun was at the center of the solar system without following proper scientific procedures. In Galileo’s day they lacked the equipment to prove Copernicus’ theory.

    His problem arose when he stopped proposing it as a scientific theory
    and began proclaiming it as truth, though there was no conclusive proof
    of it at the time. Even so, Galileo would not have been in so much
    trouble if he had chosen to stay within the realm of science and out of
    the realm of theology. But, despite his friends’ warnings, he insisted
    on moving the debate onto theological grounds. The Catholic Church founded modern science to refute that is to demonstrate your historical ignorance.

  63. Calvin T Pooner says

    As a universaty professer, I agree with this article. Climete change is not up for debate. Any one who questions globle warming in my class is imediately thrown out of class, ejected from school, arrested by campus police, and sentenced to 5 years in prison and must register as a sex offender and have their face torn off by insane chimps on meth.

  64. Kenneth says

    There really is a trusting source for the answer to “global warming” and it is way beyond the ability if “climate scientists ” to understand the truth. They MUST FIRST read and believe in the, fully undeniable, word of God, The Bible!! YES! THERE REALLY IS “GLOBAL WARMING”. The Bible predicts the EXTREME WARMING of this world going into the seven years of terrible tribulation and through that period. God really is ticked off at the governmental leaders of every nation and the fools who have elected or allowed those leaders to rule. That means almost the entire human race. In the mean time He has sent tens of thousands of His servants to millions of folks in a last ditch effort to rescue as many as possible. When His harvest time is complete? Katy, “bar the door” He will call ALL of them into His presence and then those very evil governmental leaders will begin to make war across this earth. 90% will die in seven years. If you do not believe this, HAVE FUN WHILE YOU CAN!!

  65. Sandra Holstein says

    Fire the professor! This liberal attitude of forcing people to agree with them or face the consequences is pure garbage and it’s got to stop. I’ve heard some of these so called “schools” are rewriting history to suit their liberal agenda….I hope that is not true.

  66. Justin Seine says

    Wasn’t it one of these professors who allegedly told one of his classes while pontificating about his personal perfection that: “I thought I made a mistake once, but I was wrong!” – College today (online or in class) is the best way to bury yourself in debt or shred all your savings the hardest way possible and then… when you graduate you are regurgitated out into reality as a vegetarian in a dog eat dog world.

    1. Justin Seine says

      OOOPS! I forgot the related picture…

  67. Amil Baker says

    What happened to that blizzards and deep freezing predicted in the 1970’s, yes, Scientist were telling us that the earth was going to turn too much ice. I have a hard time believing in the climate change Scientist. up with.

  68. Concerned parent says

    “The science is settled” – that’s the bottom line of climate change junk scientists – here is a prime example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4c7o0-NVz8

  69. azabigail says

    Our schools are being infiltrated by Liberal teachers/people who have no integrity, or loyalty to their profession. They think students who don’t believe in the same thing that they believe in are not entitled to student priviledges, like asking questions, expressing opinions, etc. Students need to file complaints. This particular teacher does not want students who know the truth to influence those who are ignorant of it.

  70. Letterman007 says

    They are afraid of being wrong. There is climate change and the cause is not man made! It is a natural cycle of the earth! They could go to a corner and stand on their respective heads and it wouldn’t change what’s going on!! Our O zone level is better now than before the industrial revolution. The so called greenhouse gases is a figment of Al Gore and president Ovomit! It’s a giant ponsy scheme for them to get rich and us poor!!

  71. 012017 endofanerror says

    I’ll be darned, can’t discuss something that is not real. Sounds like the same people that won’t discuss something that is real….Jesus Christ.
    Huh, just thought of something….they are the same people. What a bunch of know nothing fools. Commie socialists, atheist dirt bags.

  72. Jmanjo says

    This is why the approach to education for our kids is so important. To allow professors a latitude to teach is one thing but to stifle education, debate timely issues, and the like is not acceptable! This is professorial conduct that is being politicized to make the global warmers feel in control. They really cannot prove their case as the information they base from has been altered and therefore a fraud on our nation. These professors should either be reprimanded or their courses removed.

  73. rdzk says

    Good for the Professors. Do not waste their time!
    Chev/exxo have changed the qualifier for techron from ‘best’ to ‘unbeatable’. Fueling with them will cost you $4,000 to $8,000 or more forever one hundred thousand miles on your odometer, for an additive, of which they are all the same, and it only costs under ONE UScent to triple the amount in ONE US gallon.

  74. irish1919 says

    This is more evidence how liberals have taken over the education system. Free thought is no longer allowed in our universities. To say that 98% of scientists agree with man made global warming is a lie. Only those scientists who were allowed to speak freely support global warming. The fact is thousands of scientists either not allowed to speak or marginalized by the left agree that weather is cyclical. We have had an ice age for crying out loud. Where is global warming there? Temperatures the last 20 years have not been warmer over that period. The left has an agenda. An agenda that Obama continues to say is a bigger crisis than ISIS Really? It is a growing problem in this country. Between political correctness and brainwashing of our youth, our country is slowing becoming a United socialist states of America. I am sure in time we will not be called the United States nor have this national anthem or our flag. Obama said as much when talking in 2007 to Meet the press when he was running for president . He hates America and will do anything he can to destroy her. Notice how he never mentions God after any of his speeches . How he goes overseas and calls Americans lazy. How he bows to other foreign leaders, how he ignores congress and how he violates the constitution at every turn. He is the leader of a rapidly becoming socialist State. Progressives(should be called regressives) have diminished this wonderful Republic. They have taken over education and health care. There is only one thing left to take before the United States falls to tyrany. Hillary will close the deal and then good luck getting our Republic back . We are entering the point of no return and if we are not convinced by now, then we have lost . I believe the only way to get our freedoms back is to shred this idea of political correctness. It is an albatross over our mechs and we the people need to push back. If I had a child in college and a professor told them that they do not have the right to think differently than they do I would take them all the way to the Supreme Court and get legal council and sue both the professor and the school. It’s getting worse by the day. Guns is the third rung for full blown tyrany. Better speak out on November 8th or explain to your children and grandchildren why you let them down.

  75. Gary Von Neida says

    They have tenure——and are worthless hacks——-hire teachers (as was the case IN GREECE ) to Teach, not indoctrinate.

  76. Michael A. Lozano says

    Most folks DONT KNOW that Climate Change is a Hoax! How? Why?…..

    Studies have proven, since records have been maintained (for the past 100 years +/- a few), that the temperature of the Earth has only risen 0.5 degrees (that’s right – half of an degree)! These figures can be obtained from NOAA!

    What is most concerning and only controlled by Mother Nature is an item called “The Pacific Rim/Ring”. This area of the world contains approximately 95% of the Earth’s Volcanos, which are the major contributors to the warming/Heating and cooling (from massive cloud cover due to volcanic eruptions) of the earth and Man cannot compete with not only one active Volcano, never mind the Whole Pacific Rim/Ring!

    But to remind everyone how important this is due to…..safety in airline transportation! The airline industry KNOWS THESE ISSUES because flying through a volcanic plumb/cloud could be devastating to a turbine powered aircraft! The Volcanic cloud contains various sizes of Volcanic Ash particles, from dust to bolder size debris.

    What does this mean: the Aviation Industry knows the effects, including the heating & cooling effects of worldwide volcanic activity! If the Aviation folks know this data, who is the keeper…the NWS and/or the NOAA…sure they do! Yet, these groups remain quite so Sheeple can be manipulated by Politicans! YES, I said Manipulated! It is All the biggest Hoax of current times!

    As both a Pilot and a HamRadio Operator, I have attended meeting/briefings about such atmospheric/temperature effects, which all come to the same conclusions. That is: Mother Nature’s Volcanoes change temperatures thousands of times greater than the earth’s total inhabitants!

    Yet, this is what Academia should be stating…,but they don’t because….where do they get most of their Funding? “Federal Loans” for Students seeking Higher Education! What about the Department of Education (DOE)? How did we ever learn anything before the DOE was created? Yet, whatever Washington DC states, must be Correct…Right! Nope, Wrong!

    Let’s remember where the phrase, “Global Warming” came from…Al Gore…who claims he also invented the Internet – RIGHT! Do you think?

    Now, let’s look at what we have been taught for years…used energy transforms to other forms of energy (like Heat or light)! Yet, we don’t hear that the South Pole is growing, but we certainly hear that the Glalciers in Alaska/North are shrinking! This proves we live in a system where the earth’s equilibrium remains in Balance! And we, the people of this planet, have less effect on this earth then the main Player….Mother Nature (MN)! MN has the ability to balance the earth’s effects, whether they are local or Global issues! And Al Gore cannot effect MN; yet she has been around since the beginning – Al hasn’t, and won’t be around until the earth ceases to exist! Maybe when our Sun explodes or just fizzes out! The earth cannot exist without the Sun! Maybe Al has a cure for that as well!

    So the real issue here is that Academia bows to the Government, who controls, both directly and indirectly, their funding!

    And that is,…..THE REST OF THE STORY!

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