Republicans Turning Against Legal Immigration

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For the last decade, the immigration debate has centered around those who come to our country illegally and what should be done about them once they’re here. But while that battle rages on, some Republicans have decided that merely limiting illegal immigration is not enough. Both Senator Jeff Sessions and likely 2016 presidential candidate Scott Walker have proposed putting strict limits on legal immigration as well.

“The next president and the next congress,” said Walker, “need to make decisions about a legal immigration system that’s based on, first and foremost, protecting American workers and American wages…we need to have that be at the forefront of our discussion going forward.”

Republicans have conceded the “we’re a nation of immigrants” talking point for so long, it is almost shocking to see politicians talk like this. It’s refreshing for a couple of reasons. One, it uses a strategy liberals have perfected – moving back the line of negotiation. When your starting point is: We should not let illegal immigrants into this country, the compromise becomes: Okay, we’ll let some of them in. When your starting point is: We should not let anyone into this country, the compromise could be: Okay, we’ll only let in the ones who go through the proper steps.

Second, they are right. This country was not made great by loose immigration policies. It was made great by the form of government proposed by the Founding Fathers, an economic system that left wealth in the hands of the people, and the freedoms that have allowed us to make enormous strides in the last 200 years. That’s not to say that immigration is a bad thing; it’s just that it isn’t fundamental to what makes America what it is.

Going forward, we should be willing to pursue policies that make pragmatic, logical sense for the good of the country. Every other country does this, so why is it so evil when Americans decide to look out for ourselves? Why is it our ethical responsibility to open our borders to anyone who might like to come ashore?

According to the latest data, almost all of the job growth we’ve experienced over the last 13 years has been to the exclusive benefit of immigrants. Indeed, taking immigrants out of the equation, there are 1.3 million fewer native citizens working today than there were a decade ago. That number is all the more disturbing because there are even more eligible workers now. But the jobs are not there. Or they are, but they are being done by non-citizens.

We’re not at the point where we need to put an airtight lock on the border, but we are past the point where we need to take a practical look at the situation. We can’t make decisions about what’s best for the future using feel-good, bumper sticker phrases like “we’re a nation of immigrants.” We have to make them using numbers and facts. That, above all, is what we need in our next American president. A man willing to put his head before his heart. If we fail, the immigration crisis will eventually solve itself and we’ll have to turn to the new problem: what to do about this mass exodus?

292 Comments
  1. brabbie2002 says

    I totally agree and especially if the émigrés’ come from a muslim country!!!

  2. DivineEncounters says

    It is past overdue. We cannot just allow all the refugees from these wars, especially from Somalia and all the immigrants who want to come here have their way. Tony Blair originally wanted to limit immigration of asylum seekers and to put immigration laws into place that made sure those who immigrated to England were educated and had a profession. Try getting into Australia. They not only want to know your profession but your age.

    It is just common sense for a country to screen immigrants and limit immigration especially in this day and time. Today I say a quick blurp on the news about Muslims protesting the arrest of the six suspected terrorists and demanding their release. Where have they been with all the decapitations and slaughtering of Christians and destruction of icons and antiquities by Muslims in the ME?

    Fine example of being careful who you let into your home and America is our home. Check them at the door and if they are not worthy of your hospitality lock that door. This is not a good time for Muslims to do this. O may be a Muslim and giving the store to terrorists but the American people have just about had it with the entire lot. There is a tsunami brewing in this country.

    1. sherri palmer says

      I agree with you, perfect sense. We need to get muslims out and destroy all mosques! Send them back to war torn or whatever, they don’t know how to live with people!

  3. WiSe GuY says

    Deport every bum that came here to mooch

  4. Mynickelsworth says

    Step one is to STOP illegal immigration, period, NONE.
    Step two is to stop giving citizenship to children born of non-citizens in the USA.
    Step three is to do some serious looking at the legal immigration of workers. We are presently importing thousands per year of technical people to fill jobs. There are citizens to fill those jobs, they junkies from overseas will be happy with less money so the corporations push politicians to bring in more.

    Step four is to deport illegals, especially those who have criminal records but we must not stop there. At the rate we are going we will be another Mexico in a few years, with all their problems of Drug Gangs, et al.
    All four Steps should start ASAP.

    Step one. States can put their State Guards on the border with shot anyone who crosses the border illegally.
    Step two change the law. Over ride the veto.
    Problem: The GOP is almost as stupid in their immigration attitudes as are the Demon Democrats.

    1. junkmailbin says

      you nailed it

      1. Sniper71 says

        You nailed it. Even Mexico will jail someone going into there country illegally. I say bring our soldiers home,(the other countries don’t want them there anyway) and post them on the border. It worked in Cuba, guard towers, mines and fencing=no trespassing.

        1. john robel says

          The Mexicans will SHOOT YOU for coming across illegally, yet they have an “entitled” attitude when it comes to the US border. Meanwhile Komrade bathhouse barry kisses their asses.

          1. sherri palmer says

            Many times I have read on azorderdefenders.com and minutemanproject that Mexican helicopters fly into our country making sure their drug peddlers get thru wtheir drugs. And our border patrol is told by Obama to “stand down”, if they are fired upon they are to turn tail and find shelter, not to fire back. Plus, he has taken most of their weapons from them and they have to share weapons. Congress as a body will have to be replaced…they do nothing except nod their heads “yes.”

          2. Laurence Almand says

            So who elected these jerks in the first place? And yes, our border patrol has been gutted by the Socialists.

          3. truthseeker53 says

            Oprah watching idiot white women is who elected them.

          4. Vivian Mcdorman says

            i don’t watch her or ellen and i did not vote for ovamit

    2. Cami W says

      Mynickeiworth, very well said!

    3. Victor Archuleta says

      One of the most intense decisions is deporting those who have not, or do not pledge allegiance to the nation’s founding principles. The Founders had access to the Koran, but they rejected the book and what it represented. Also, the clear definitions of Republic and Democracy need to be taught to anyone wishing to live in this country – and that includes ‘Whazzizname” and his administration.

      1. Jim says

        Victor, think about what you said, if you do that you would have to deport all the Muslims that have invaded our country as none of them pledge allegiance to our country. Just a little sarcasm for the morning.

        1. USCBIKER says

          Norway just did, they booted 7,100 camels.

        2. Victor Archuleta says

          I was recalling the days when people had to make a formal application for passage to America, and were interviewed… oops … maybe I saw that in a movie! Okay! We can’t afford to lose our ability to laugh. Uh-oh! No wait… cancel that. Hollywood is teaching us it’s okay to laugh at others – especially when the crippled man’s crutch is kicked away!

        3. debi feldet says

          That is the very reason to deport them, anybody who does not pledge allegiance to this country should not be allowed to live in this country, deport or go to prison for not following our laws!

          1. Mark Clemens says

            A-Men
            Right on!!!

        4. Mark Clemens says

          ………is that a bad thing?

      2. fred says

        Correct Victor! We live in a Constitutional Republic not a democracy ( which IS Mob rule!). We are governed by a system of laws where Rule of Law is followed and not violated, not even by some clown born in kenya who slipped in here in the 70’s-80’s and ever left!

        1. Joseph Nicholas Toth Jr. says

          I agree with everything you said, but it seems to me there no one in the government that will enforce the rule of law. It looks like color trumps everything. No one wants to step forward and say no you can’t do that period. It seems to me that the people of color just love to criticize white folk, by demonizing ridiculing and calling them white trash, and that’s putting it mildly. I consider the people in the White House to be nothing but black trash, the president has viewed this country with disdain, and Michelle is the same way. They could care less about the poor black people and Hispanics. They spend our taxpayer money like it was their own. And yet the black community sees all of this and says nothing, while there living in squalor, drawing welfare and talking on their Obama phones. And where are all the black ministers, do they preach, sloth, thievery, promiscuous lifestyle, abortion is good. while the president eats Kobe beef, have extravagant parties in the White House, numerous vacations, and let’s not forget all the golf games. You never hear 60 min. bring up any of this,or any of the mainstream media. The only one that ever mentions any of it is Fox news, and I heard a black minister say over the radio he listens to Fox news until he can’t stand it any longer. To me it says the truth hurts.

          1. fred says

            I agree Joseph! There just isn’t the work ethic we once had, and if you’re a certain race, all you do is get dressed and go into work and you don’t have to do anything, except gossip and interfere with those who are working, it makes me so sick to think how far we have fallen in so little time! Somebody better grow a pair before it gets too far out of hand, if it hasn’t exceeded that limit already!?

          2. Vivian Mcdorman says

            i agree Fred, have fallen so far in so little time, sure were a lot of stupid people falling all over the first black, my not so smart relatives too, still can’t tell them a dam thing and there are still too many followers!!!!

          3. fred says

            When the criminals controlling everything in ours lives decide its finally ok to release the truth about the criminal born in kenya, all the idiots who voted for him I hope will feel shamed for being duped by this master manipulator. I’ve never seen so many people taken in by such a total fraud, treasonous liar and murdering thief. And Hillary is even worse than this clown.

          4. 1American1st says

            Beg to differ, but nobody is WORSE than the current clown in the White Mosque:
            Barack HUSSEIN OsamaObama
            He’s not just evil, he is evil on so many levels. He has torn our country apart.

          5. sandi says

            And you think killery is any better, she’s just gonna pick up where he left off. She’s a socialist. Well belong to Putun.not long after she rules the WH. She’s a white, American born evil person. And still hasn’t answered to the Benghazi incident. She’s the one that dropped the ball.And 4 Americans died. NO…NO Killery

          6. sandi says

            I don’t even understand how she can not be investigated for all of her scandals. She acts like it’s just gonna go away…sad thing is, it is. FOX says the only way she’ll be investigated is if the FBI do it and if I were her and I knew I was innocent, I’d say, ok go ahead investigate me. But she doesn’t and she probably wont. Cause she’s as guilty as the day is long.

          7. Walter Flatt says

            THE NEWS MEDIA WILL NOT REPORT THE TRUTH. I HAVE SENT THE BELOW TO ALL THE NEWS MEDIA INCLUDING FOX AND HAVE YOU SEEN IT ON NATIONWIDE TV.
            GOOGLE THE NEW CLINTON CHRONICLES AND LISTEN TO ALL.
            IF YOU STILL VOTE FOR HER, THEN YOU ARE TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA AND I BELIEVE THE NEWS MEDIA IS DOING JUST THAT, THEY ARE BLIND TO THE FACT IF MUSLIMS TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST CONTROLLED.

          8. Evan says

            The beginning of all our problems was putting a black
            in the White House! I knew that was NOT going to work
            out too good! Was I right? You bet I was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          9. Matthew V. Brown says

            It was not putting “a” black in the White House, it was putting “THAT” black in the White House.

          10. Vivian Mcdorman says

            exactly!

          11. Sgt. York says

            Vivvie I agree,let your kin try to visit the ovomit and see how weii they are recieved

          12. Vivian Mcdorman says

            thanks Sgt, i like that haven’t been called that in a long time.

          13. Rboo says

            You what’s really sad, I don’t know if you’ve seen this or not, but they have polled college kids on if they vote for Hillary and why. Most all of them said yes and because it would be neat to vote in the first woman. Take you back six years, the college kids did the same thing with Obama. I don’t believe you should be able to vote until your brain thinks about more then beer and toga parties. Seriously, they don’t even care about any issues. My son’s friend admitted to him the first time Obama ran he voted for him for the same reason, my son let him have it. I told him you better go talk to him before Hillary runs. I can not look at that face for the 4 years. Obama has brought race relations back 50 years and Michelle wants to get paid for being a housewife.

          14. b.badenoff says

            A house what?

          15. Rboo says

            Michelle wants a salary. I don’t understand why, all she is is a housewife. You know a wife and mother that doesn’t work. But she does take a lot of vacations.

          16. CrazyAuntJane says

            And we did not hire her!

          17. sherri palmer says

            not that bucktooth bitch!

          18. Sam W says

            AND how many freaking servants does Michael/Michelle have at its beckon call? This thing is smearing crap in our faces and no one seems to blink.

          19. Aunt Dot says

            Is that how you talk to our ‘WANNA-BE” queen????? I’d love to see her slapped down again!!!! QUEEN ELIZABETH THE AINT…..QUEEN ANTOINETTE SHE WANTS TO BE!!! And… this is a sample of the college graduates of the drug generation!!!! ANIMAL FARM…. HERE WE COME!!!

          20. Brad Arkle says

            Dot, I couldn’t agree more. I see this crap as a fusion of the Farm with the gov’t. spying of 1984. Both novels were prophetic, in my humble opinion.

          21. Rboo says

            I talk to people how they deserve it, I don’t care who they are. If you deserve respect, then I’ll talk to you with respect. I don’t expect anything less for myself. Michelle doesn’t deserve any respect from me, she hasn’t earned it, hell her husband hasn’t earned any respect from me and I can guarantee by now neither of them will. So Queen Wanna-Be can take a flying leap off the tallest building in the world!

          22. sandi says

            I can’t agree with yo, cheater u more . I could go on and on. But Rbo could o.
            I saw on and otha and on.t sa onme Watter’s World. I was practically jumping on the floor. These college kids know nothing, half of them don’t even know who the VP is. FOX carried the spring break fieasco. It’s drugs, alcohol and sex. That’s all they were doing. The parents of these kids had to be mortified. I’m so glad mine are grown and know about their right and privilege to vote and how important it is. Especially after 6+years of obummer & moochelle. Whom, BTW, no one I even know voted for him. Shes, a joke. He’s obnoxious, arrogant, narcissistic, liar, cheat..

          23. Vivian Mcdorman says

            Joesph you have gotten the jist of things, well spoken

          24. sue says

            Sir, I couldn’t agree more with you! (I should change my name to Sue T. I see another Sue commented.) I’ve said it before, we’re like a book, it’s not the cover/color of a person, but the content/ character and morals of who we are that matters. Obama only cares about himself and he’s using the poor black people and Hispanic to benefit what he has planned. for years-to transform and destroy our country. As far as Michelle, I’ve always been proud of my country!

          25. sandi says

            Your joking about Moochelle right?

          26. sue says

            sandi, I have absolutely no respect for Michelle Obama. If you recall her saying at the beginning of Fundraiser and Liar In Chief’s 1st term “for the 1st time in my adult life I’m proud of my country”. What, she wasn’t proud before he came into office? What I wrote was that I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF MY COUNTRY!

          27. real talk 1 says

            Black people are poor because the liberal democratic keep them that way that is their voting block now they can add illegals as well they to will be forever in your pocket .A lot of kids no jobs or education !!

        2. Linda Lee says

          Scary , I ‘m seeing mroe and more mob rule on the streets and on the campuses. It’s becoming dangerous.

          1. fred says

            I agree with you Linda. If all the people had jobs like the lying potus and his statistical manipulators say they do, then people would not have the time to become thieves and armed robbers openly using the excuse that they want more of whatever! The ethic of work hard=get ahead has been lost for a few generations now, and stolen from those of us who did just that by an illegal alien writing executive orders that are also illegal. Ironic isn’t, and more than a little sad that ALL our “leaders” won’t stand up to this treasonous tyrant and do what’s right for the people who fought so hard for our freedoms.

          2. MARYSWEET says

            A lot of jobs obama brags about are being sent offshore. I called about my Part D prescription plan (which is part of medicare) and I ended up with someone in Bali. That being a government tax payer paid position, it should have stayed here in the U.S. So don’t be fooled by the numbers he gives out as they are as phony as he is.

          3. fred says

            I can assure you that whenever that kenyan is babbling every single word coming out of his lips is a lie. I’ve never seen such a pathological liar in my life!

          4. b.badenoff says

            Pick a politician, any politician . Obummer has no conscience,morals ,integrity, or spine A perfect choice for president of this country.

          5. b.badenoff says

            Americans have lost 1.3 million jobs over the last ten years. Over.90 % of jobs created since then have gone to foreign labor through the world workers unite program started by this govt. Also included in that 90 % are the illegal. The entire govt is behind this. I’ll bet big business has a hand in it as well.

        3. MARYSWEET says

          Yeah, that clown from kenya is an illegal alien too as he came in on a student visa and never left. From all reports, maybe he didn’t even attend classes where he says he went to college cause no one from the time he was suppose to be there ever saw him or heard of him at that time. He was the invisible foreign student. Where was he really and what was he doing?

          1. fred says

            All very good questions, Mary! do you think Pelosi has any of the answers, she did VET him afterall? Will she share what she knows about him with us, no chance in hell!

          2. MARYSWEET says

            Pelosi just thinks she knows it all. After all she is a liberal and they believe that their way is the only way and they know what is best for everyone. I don’t know whether she has any of the answers but she sure WON’T share them with anyone because then it would make her look bad and she would never make a mistake (sarcasm).

          3. fred says

            Pelosi is an “insider trader” and a huge criminal who lies cheats and steals from everyone, and has no morals or ethics whatsoever! She is most culpable for saddling us all with the communist from kenya, by not checking him out adequately, or worse letting him in KNOWING he was an illegal alien! If that was the case she is guilty of treason also!

          4. MARYSWEET says

            I couldn’t agree with you more. I have been saying the same things for years. harry reid is a male pelosi. This is just another good reason for term limits.

          5. b.badenoff says

            He was snorting coke, smoking crack crack and playing naked leapfrog with homosexuals. His whole life is a lie as he was installed in the white house. Elections are rigged at every level. He was put in to destroy the American economy. What’s are debt at ?

          6. MARYSWEET says

            I have been saying that ever since obama took office and have stated that he is our country’s worst enemy and his whole life he was groomed to be where he is now. He is destroying our country from within. Our debt is getting very close to a point of no return. I have heard that figure is 24 trillion and we’re about 19+ trillion now.

          7. b.badenoff says

            Going up to 27 by 2020. Castro said back in 80s, that the only way to bring down the U.S. was from within and economically.

          8. MARYSWEET says

            If it goes up to 27 by 2020 we will be way past the point of no return and obama will get up as high as he can before he leaves office (IF he leaves office).

          9. sandi says

            That is the million $ event we are all waiting for…will he leave or start a civil or some type of upheaval that he then would start martial law. So we are like on a time bomb waiting to see what happens as the days move on

          10. Diane Mcfarren-Myers says

            He was being groomed by the far left and his bros to do exactly what he is doing now. He’s not going along and thinking his next move, this anti-christ-like creature was groomed to play the part, to deceive the people, a well-thought out plan that took years of evil preparation.

          11. sandi says

            Absolutely….years of preparation from the master puppet makers.
            The Rothchilds and Bildaburgers. A long line of the most wealthiest in the entire world. They pulled the strings on this fake poor excuse for a human.

          12. MARYSWEET says

            I’ve been saying that for years and it is good to hear someone verify what I’ve known for so long. obama was groomed from a young boy when he was in Kenya and then came to the U.S. as a foreign student and never left. He was backed by george soros and other left wing billionaires for the senate and then the presidency. He has no qualifications. His background is shady and no paperwork exists, even students who were at the colleges he supposedly went to never saw him or heard of him while they attended school. His birth certificate has been proven to be false just as he is. He is a homosexual muslim, marxist, sociopath who wants nothing but to destroy our country and he has overstepped his powers so often but nobody will stop him. Because of his backers everyone is afraid to confront him.

          13. Aunt Dot says

            CASHING OUR CHECKS!!! STILL DOING IT AS THE LIAR IN CHIEF AT THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

        4. hangem'high says

          Who’s enforcing that law when our police are under constant criticism on the left? Get ready for all hell to break loose, this high horse is about to get ugly!

        5. DivineEncounters says

          The Constitution gives no grace to anyone, including a president who disobeys our laws. O has broken our Federal Immigration Laws. Only now at the end of his “Reign of Terror” are people everywhere speaking-up.

          I have to hand it to the Ten Nation Coalition that includes Israel, they are snubbing O’s Gulf nation meeting at Camp David where he is trying to get them to go along with his “Deal”.

          Saudi Arabia demanding shields and weapons and saying they will get a nuke from Pakistan if this goes through. O is the “Destroyer” he has crapped on everything he has touched but the Ten Nation Coalition is not taking it.

          1. fred says

            I first feared the kenyan when his campaign slogan of “hope and change” came out. I disliked him before that because he was a socialist from Illinois that nobody seemed to know anything about! I knew Soros was backing him before he went to kill his maternal grandmother in Hawaii before the first election in 2008, and sure enough she was dead days later…Poeple called me a racist for not liking him, but for the life of me I couldn’t find anything concrete about him that i liked… Rev Jeremiah Wright was an extremely scary racist that was “advising” him… which told me that he was a criminal, not someone we wanted to be in charge of anything, only maybe shining shoes…

          2. Vivian Mcdorman says

            clap clap Fred!!!!! love the part about the shoes!

          3. fred says

            Thank-you Vivian! Even that task may be too much skill for him, he’d probably pick the wrong polish color! Incredible to me that someone of his low qualifications and skills ever rose to that position, the “controllers” must be so proud of completing this huge deception.

      3. sherri palmer says

        Personally, I think Obama and his gang should all be exiled from this nation along with their families!

        1. Victor Archuleta says

          Thanks for the opportunity! Whenever I see “Whazzizname’s” face or name, I utter this prayer, because the he Bible teaches that the first weapon of our warfare is prayer. S when he and his kind agitators reveal themselves, loose this arrow, Psalm 5:10 -: Destroy him, O God, let him and his followers fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions, for they have rebelled against Thee.

        2. Laurence Almand says

          In view of the huge amounts of taxpayers’ money they spend on vacations, that would save some funds, if nothing else.

        3. Mark Clemens says

          I say we round up the Obamas, Clintons and Bushs. Exile them to Gilligan’s Island. Since they pillaged our treasury. No suit case’s full of money, like the Howell’s had…..

          1. Sue says

            Gilligan’s Island is a movie set in CA, and probably close to Bohemian Groove which is a place where mostly old white men meet to carry out their sadistic psychological behaviors. DC is a place where lying, thieving, homosexual, criminal lawyers convene to play footsies while deciding how to screw over the people of America and laughing all the way to the bank.

          2. Mark Clemens says

            Almost sounds like the same place.
            How about a deserted island. Don’t give them any food. They can play survivor for real.

          3. Sue says

            How about putting criminals where they belong – in prison – and to hell with shipping them off to a deserted island because cockroaches will always find a way to invade other countries. Anyone who votes for criminals to make laws and supposedly protect them from other criminals doesn’t deserve protection – they deserve to have their friggin heads examined to see if they still have a brain. We are living in a fake reality created by those who consider themselves gods over and above everyone else. We don’t have the right to create our own reality and if we do and step outside the matrix we’re imprisoned…Pretty f’ed up world where billions of sheeple have fallen for the bullshit of a few a’holes.

          4. Mark Clemens says

            I think this congress and president should be exiled from our country. Or hang the whole lot. I think the ballot boxes are rigged. Everyone voting, can’t be this stupid…….
            We also need to get money out of the game. That’s what impairs their decision making. Some what in the way liquor affects an alcoholic.

          5. Sue says

            D.C. is nothing but a mafia crime syndicate – a get rich plan of criminal, greedy attorneys. They don’t give a damn about the people, so why should the people give a damn about them? Quit voting for criminals and quit paying criminals to control our lives will be the only way to freedom.

          6. Mark Clemens says

            Well in the primaries vote for the challenger of the establishment.
            If your primary candidate looses, and the incumbent won. In the General vote for the challenger over the incumbent. Don’t be afraid to cross party lines. The parties COUNT on loyal supporters who refuse to cross party lines. That’s how most of them stay in office so long. Right now congress is about 50/50. If you vote against your party, you really aren’t giving up any type of majority rule. If we put new ones in throw old ones out. In a few elections, congress will get the hint. Work for the people, or go home.
            We all know none of them want to go, or we would have term limits by now……….

          7. Sue says

            When you make a choice to vote for someone to make laws against you, lie to you and steal from you by the threat of a gun, you have volunteered to become their slave…I don’t think we should waste rope on them – we should use the guillotines they spent our tax dollars on to kill us

        4. Victor Archuleta says

          sherrie, I write fiction, and sometimes I allow my thoughts to wander where they will. This morning, I had a thought that “Mr. & Mrs. Whazzizname” only had one place to move to after leaving OUR White House: Ferguson, MO. He refused and had to move to Russia, and their children abandoned them. Once there, he and the Mrs. discovered that equality in a socialist democracy meant qualifying for a refrigerator, as did any other loyal comrade….

        5. Victor Archuleta says

          Sherri, I see your comment, but I can’t access it. And I well understand your sentiment, but for now, we must focus our energy on the ballot box. God knows what we need, and those who will be needed will be called awake by God, and energized by Him to do the work He demands done.

          I agree that identified enemies of America should be exiled, and I believe our laws need to be clarified on that issue. I also believe that elected representatives who claim to be Christians must display their faith and belief in their actions, and if they find that they cannot, they ought to resign.

          I’ve also been thinking that we need a Christian caucus in Congress. But that idea is at this time outside my knowledge base of history and religion.

      4. Rboo says

        They need to be teaching that in school again, from what I’ve been reading they are teaching Muslim crap in schools these days and I know our Founders rejected that because I studied that it in history. My son is already out of school, thankfully, but the ones in now are being corrupted by obama’s garbage.

        1. Victor Archuleta says

          The “advance team” for a tyrant is made up of indoctrinated educators who are persuaded to believe liberty – the obligation to be responsible – means license – freedom to do anything. If I were a church pastor, if I had school age children, I would preach a plain message from a pulpit – something like this:

          Brothers and sisters, in a nation such as this, government rests in the hands of the people, but the people must be God fearing, or holding government means absolutely nothing. Even the unbelievers, the depraved socialist progressives, the deviants, can claim the right to hold the government in their hands. and that would be true except for one thing. The government of our nation was crafted by men who worshiped the same God we profess today. Jefferson, Henry, Washington, Hart, Franklin, are names largely removed from school books, but these men, along with others, devised a government based on Judeo-Christian principles. They were willing to die, if need be, to assure that the Colonists and their children – and you and I – would never be chafed by the chains of tyranny.

          Now, events are revealing a worse tyranny is fast approaching – and the believing community, divided by as many denominations as can be counted, is unprepared for the assault. First Peter, chapter 2, verses 9 and 10, tells us that we believers are God’s own people, a holy nation, and Peter gave us the name, People of God. In effect, we are a new race of Man, not defined by color or national origin or any other divisive term devised by man. We are defined by Bible truth: birth into the world of God by our willingness to accept Jesus of Nazareth as Savior and Lord of our lives, and to believe and obey Him.

          Dr. Benjamin Rush, Christian signer of the Declaration of Independence, one of the first to call for free public schools, said “… the truths of the Bible…concentrates a whole system of ethics in a single test of Scripture: ‘A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another. even as I have loved you.’ By withholding the knowledge of this doctrine from children, we deprive ourselves the best means of awakening moral sensibility in their minds.”

          The designers of today’s public school system, failing in understanding that the wall of separation between church and state was to be constructed around the state, has cast out the very truth that would have shaped the minds of the general population in such a way that the temptations of gang membership – social and political – could be resisted, bullying could be cured, narcotic drugs could be resisted, depravity, immorality, perversions, lawlessness, all could be resisted, even banished from our society. And by refusing this doctrine, hellish behaviors were invited to take the doctrine’s vacated place. And I, one believing Christian parent, have said “Enough!”

          This week my children will no longer attend public school. No matter the sacrifice, they shall be home schooled. And I, a citizen of this unique God-given Republic, intend to devote time and energy to assuring that the local education system is restored to its original purpose.

      5. hangem'high says

        They’re all teaching ‘em all the need to know, and that is socialism in government schools.

        1. Victor Archuleta says

          I take it you think this is a good thing: Teaching socialism in government schools?

          1. hangem'high says

            It’s obvious we don’t teach Americanism.
            How else they going to learn to dismount that American high horse, next they’ll think they can become president for Hells Sake! Beside Sharia law has it’s good points!

          2. Victor Archuleta says

            Thank you for explaining what you meant. And thank you for identifying your allegiance. May you be exposed to the fullness of Shar’ia law – in a land where it is established.

          3. hangem'high says

            Anything but American history, Lord forbid if the Millennials ever leant about Reagan or who hell he was? Just as long as you’re in front me when losing your head to some punk azz six year old Progressive! Wake up and look around you friend, you think this government is interested in protecting you?

          4. Victor Archuleta says

            I am really trying to understand you. The entire point of these discussion groups is to expose what we have learned about the “government”, and to encourage thinking people to keep on thinking and planning and working to preserve the Republic. I don’t intend to helplessly “lose my head to some punk…”. I have no illusions. Bloodshed is on the horizon – but we still have an election coming, and I stand by my statement (and thanks for the opportunity to post it again).

            The Tree of Liberty – AT THIS TIME – must be nourished with the sweat, and tears, of God-fearing Patriots!

            You say you want me to be in front of you. You’re persuading me that it would be suicide to have you stand behind me at any time.

          5. hangem'high says

            My response is to your post to (Rboo) “indoctrinated educators” I actually agree with what you’re saying; I’m just a being a little sarcastic as with the next election as long as the next president is not a progressive Republican or Democrat, I guess it depends who the media pulls for, but I’ll guarantee you they’ll have two horses in this race if at all possible?

            As far as you being in front of me will give me enough time to hopefully figure out what the Hell I’m going to do? Kind of like going bear hunting you don’t have to be a fast runner, just faster than the guy with you!

          6. Victor Archuleta says

            Thank you for your clarifications. As for the next election, I’m reminded of the enraged farmers across the 1780s nation, many of them veterans of the American Revolution. They marched on government offices, armed with rifles and pitchforks, shouting “Liberty or Death!”, demanding tax reform. They shot at law enforcers, burned a few government buildings, surrounded legislatures.

            Their demands were met. Politicians resigned, and good men were elected to fill the vacated offices. The protests caused fear of a second revolution – and I believe records such as this prompt the Progressives to remove authentic American history from the classroom. But the Second Revolution is already being shaped by current events. And the Founders provided instructions for carrying it to a victorious conclusion. But now is not the time to think such thoughts. ( Oh boy! One more time! – Thank YOU!)

            The Tree of Liberty – AT THIS TIME – must be nourished with the sweat, and tears, of God-fearing Patriots!

          7. hangem'high says

            I believe this time it will be them coming after us, we can only work with what we’re given. The constitution is a great beginning, as everything else has been stolen by our wonderful looting government. I pray for better times but prepare for the worse, this election will tell us a lot!
            Stay Safe; don’t lose your head, who knows you may be faster than me?

          8. Victor Archuleta says

            Psalm 144:1 is a God-directed study in itself. It’s a wise thing for all of us to pray for the best (Psalm 5), but we must also prepare for the worst. As for running – there’s no place to which to run. America is home – and I really enjoy the other quote that I have adapted: “Not today! Not in my home!”

          9. hangem'high says

            I loved all your great quotes, as I like having contingency plan
            “Runaway, fight again some other day”
            When all seems hopeless, play dead!
            “Give me liberty or give me death,” but I prefer liberty
            “If I only had one life to give” I’d rethink my end!
            I will never deny God what is his
            If this be my last breath, then let me breathe life!
            If Satan’s desire is to have me, let him be disappointed in Christ!
            If the only thing they want is my head, then let me rest
            Home is where God is, but Alaska is next best!
            Revenge is sweetest when victory seems out of reach!
            I cannot out run death, for he is my shadow!

          10. Victor Archuleta says

            Wow! I am so thankful that we rode over the humps in the road leading to acquaintanceship. Your quotes are going into my files. Thanks for sharing!

          11. hangem'high says

            Thanks for humoring me, remember to bob and weave when words fail!
            LOL.

      6. jim_wright says

        If we strictlly enforce the employment laws both against the illegal immigrsnts and those who employ them we can remove the reason they come here illegally. The ones already here m as y just leave on their own.

        1. Victor Archuleta says

          I agree, jim, and thanks for responding. Not knowing what you believe about Divine Providence, I shall explain this anyway.

          Whatever awakens the heart and mind to injustice or sin, is the Creator’s way of saying “Do something about this situation!” That heartfelt emotional reaction – righteous anger – is a command, not a suggestion. Prayer should follow, because that communion with the Divine will attract His guidance and He will reveal what must be done. If, in this case, laws must be applied to the situation, He shall bless the one experiencing righteous anger with uncommon ability to understand the subject. And He will lead that person to the resources needed.

      7. DivineEncounters says

        Thomas Jefferson read the Qur’an after meeting with the Barbary Coast Pirates and seeing their pompous and self righteous attitudes. We know the rest. Cleaned them out from the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli.

        Many of our Founding Fathers along with philosophers, great thinkers and other world leaders had plenty to say about Islam. None of it complimentary.

        We are in a fix and O will not fix it.

      8. sherri palmer says

        We need to get Obama and his regime out of this country and never allow them back. Obama should be stopped , by any means necessary, from influencing politics in the future. If he pushes ahead, send him to gitmo.

      9. Walter Flatt says

        FROM A KOREAN WAR VET. 51/53, HAS HILLARY AND OBAMA SET THE USA UP FOR A MUSLIM INVASION? IF NOT,

        VOTE TRUMP. PASS THIS ON, PLEASE.

        COAT YOUR BULLETS WITH PIG GREASE OR BLOOD.

        IS THE BIASED NEWS MEDIA HELPING IN THE POTENTIAL INVASION OF AMERICA.

        WHY HASN’T THE NEWS MEDIA SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OBAMA SWEARING A JUDGE IN UNDER SHEREE LAW,

        I HAD A EMAIL SHOWING HE SWORE CAROLYN WALKER IN AS JUDGE IN THE 7TH MUNICIPAL DISTRICT IN BROOKLING USING THE QURAN. SHE SHOULD BE RECALLED IMMEDIATELLY.

        WHY 5 MUSLIM CAMPS ONE AT FAIRFAX, FALLS CH RED HOUSE, MEHERRIN, BETHANY VA. ARE THEY TO INVADE WASH.DC? YOU SHOULD FIND OUT.

        IF YOU WANT A LIST OF THE TOWNS THEY ARE CLOSE TO, CONTACT ME.SINCE OUR TROOPS ARE NOT ARMED, YOU CAN TAKE 100 WELL ARMED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KILL US & TAKE ANY MILITARY BASE IN THIS COUNTRY.

        BETTER WAKE UP & ALLOW OUR TROOPS TO CARRY LOADED GUNS. TODAY OUR CAMPS ARE A FREE KILLING ZONE.

        WHY DO YOU THINK THE MUSLIM MAJOR KILLED SO MANY IN TEXAS & HE IS STILL LIVING???.WHY?

        I CALLED AND VERIFIED THE MUSLIM CAMP CLOSE TO FT. CAMPBELL & A LADY VERIFIED THE FEMA CAMP WITH ARMED GUARDS IN EAST KY. AND THE ONE IN SHAWNEE NATIONAL FORREST IN SOUTHERN ILL. FOR GODS SAKE AND OUR COUNTRY WAKE UP.

        WHY GIVE 5 TERRIOST FOR ONE TRAITOR. FOLKS IT GOES ON & ON, WAKE UP AMERICA.

        WHY GIVE 150 BILLION AND ANOTHER 400 MILLION TO IRAN.

        WHY STOP THE SHIPMENT OF PLANES & TANKS TO EGYPT WHEN THEIR ARMY KICKED THE RADICALS OUT.I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF WHYS, AND THERE ARE MORE, SUCH AS,

        WHY IS OBAMA & HILLARY TRYING TO BRING IN 160 THOUSAND MUSLIMS?

        WHY TRY AND TAKE OUR GUNSWHY DID THEY TRY & BUY UP ALL AMM0WHY HAS OUR GOVERNMENT BUILT A FEMA CAMP IN EVERY STATE, SOME MORE THAN ONE.

        WHY HAS THIS GOVERNMENT ALLOWED 35 MUSLIM CAMPS HERE IN THE USA & ONE 9 MILES OVER IN MEXICO

        VOTE DONALD TRUMP TO STOP THIS INSANE DESTROYING OF AMERICA.

        1. Victor Archuleta says

          I was inspired after much prayer to enter these discussions for two purposes. 1. To point out the futility of calling for armed rebellion without adequate preparation, and 2. To call on God-fearing Patriots to campaign for public offices from city and county council to Congress. A President cannot correct national wrongs without the support of God fearing members of Congress. The Constitution cannot be protected by atheistic judges. For God-fearing Americans to place their hopes on a man who has not demonstrated the faith of a George Washington or Abraham Lincoln is, at best, a chancy thing. The writings of the Founders and of the men and women who sacrificed so much to establish this Republic reflects their faith.

          Ia am not the first to say this; I sincerely hope I am not the last – “Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet.”…

    4. papa doug says

      I’ll sign on to that! (but I won’t hold my breath)

    5. sherri palmer says

      agree with your comment.

    6. Laurence Almand says

      You are right on all counts. With more than 10,000,000 unemployed in the USA, the last thing we need is more people!

      1. Mark Clemens says

        If Obama and Congress Fast Track the TPP, there will be less jobs than now. In the article above, most of that 1.3 million didn’t loose their jobs because of immigration. They were let go because NAFTA, WTO shipped most of those jobs overseas.

      2. dinkerduo says

        There are still 25+ MILLION people unemployed and many more under employed!
        There isn’t 11/12 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE–THERE ARE APPROX. 45 MILLION OF THEM HERE AND MORE COMING EVERYDAY!
        They cost us taxpayers over 200 BILLION dollars per year in services they get from us–NOT counting all of the money they send “home”–which is about equal to what they cost
        They think they are entitled to be here “to take their country back” as several southwest states + CA belonged to Mex BEFORE the war WE won!
        They commit crimes here in CO like blacks do back east!
        We need to have a visa system that works–for visitors only–to make sure they leave so there are NO OVERSTAYS!! EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS ONE–WHY DON’T WE?!?
        WE NEED TO SYSTEMATICALLY START DEPORTING ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO ARE HERE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD! AND STOP ANY MORE FROM COMING IN!
        We need to get Muslims who were not born here GONE! They are planning on attacking us especially with the Muslim in the WH helping! We need to also bring back the monitoring of
        Mosques like we did before obozo stopped the program!
        We also need to get all of the RINOs who are progressives–as–they are NOT working for the conservative citizen and Boehner and Mc Connell are two of the worst!
        ALL OF THE LAWS NEED TO BE ENFORCED–FROM HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS AND NO MORE IMMIGRATION—UNTIL EVERY U.S. CITIZEN WHO WANTS A JOB–HAS ONE–IN THEIR FIELD–NOT MINIMUM WAGE CLERKING OR WHATEVER–ESPEICALLY IN THE STEM FIELDS!! MICROSOFT CAN GO TO HELL!!!

    7. marilyn says

      YOU THE MAN,COMMON SENSE IS A WONDERFUL GIFT,PROBLEM IS THE DEMOCRATS WILL DIE A SLOW DEATH IF THEY CAN GET ILLEGALS TO VOTE FOR THEM,OBAMA HAS OUT SPENT THIS COUNTRY’S BUDGET,WORST EVER AMERICAN TO HOLD OFFICE,A REAL PUNK

    8. setemfree says

      Look at what the GOP are doing. There is no difference. They vote for whatever Obama wants. All a bunch of crooks. Lawyers the bunch. Sit around and think up new laws to put against the people. A person could not wake up in his own bed and walk down the street any longer without breaking the law. To many laws in this country. Time to eliminate lawyers from the House and Senate an put plain folk back in. Any laws made would be reviewed by lawyers to make sure they were legal, otherwise lawyers should be gotten out of our public offices.

    9. al.k says

      In total agreement, but we have an illegal in the Whore House in DC, it is no longer for the people by the people, it’s the money masters in control, Organized Labor started out as a needed organization, but soon got too much money and started corrupting Congress, it’s neither democrats nor republicans, Congress is run by the Illuminati communists, Joseph McCarthy exposed 205 of them in the 50’s, he soon became another government casualty, look at all the casualties in all administrations, they all got their hit men, that’s why no individual could assassinate one of them, every assassination of government are committed by them and blamed on some one they chose to be the culprit. look at all the false flag operations, the Clinton Chronicles as a for instance,

    10. hora says

      I agree, USA are NO more immigrant Country, but immigration must be to strick and hard with any case, but from Mexico to down must close get immigrant. Believe or not Mexican abuse and flood here for two reason, Flood and mean over a time be will control USA and American and second make dollars and free benefit, when said come for Jobs are a big lie, most business move down, but in especial Mexican must denied all immigration. Let change a rules in a border, not arrest, simple shoot illegals and smugglers, who get here, jail time and deported, take to a border and let across, and save money. If GOP are stupid next President can easy get a pen and veto all benefit for illegals and order deported, but not forget we have a enemy communist mental hate disturbing with a political party. Another thing are let free all Cops in a 50 State check ID and power for remove all illegals, but at some time who get here live illegal and working send to jail for a few years before deported and some time close and seal a border, send Army control a border and order shoot to kill any try across. Legal immigration must need reduce and accept only who we won and have very high education and not criminals record, muslin must denied enter.

    11. gutz22 says

      You make some great points & ideas.Alas we no longer have a country that recognizes the rule of law. We are ruled by the tyranny of one man as the moral corrupt cowards who make up congress do nothing in saving this country by stopping his agenda.

      1. Mynickelsworth says

        YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!

    12. Philip Duckworth says

      Have to say about their importing technical people You are right they work cheap some companies even export the work to such people to save money
      BUT REMEMBER ALL PEOPLE ARE THE SAME

      EVERY ONE WANTS SOMETHING FOR NOTHING or YOU GIVE THE SOMETHING AND TAKE THE NOTHING

    13. Btty says

      We also need to demand everyone in this country that is legal assimilate!! That is the secret. If you come here and want to live by Sharia law or any other law than our laws and constitution then you won’t be staying Period! One Language and one language only and it’s English! No more printing our ballots in other languages. No more street signs in other languages. No more press one for English and two for whatever the hell. Bring back pride in God and Country. If you don’t like it tough chit. If we don’t start making our own demands upon these immigrants legal or not then damn it we are asking for everything we get. Any demonstrating in the streets that turn violent where you are destroying other peoples property and you will be shot! No matter your color or ethnicity! We can do this but it’s going to take a President and Congress with balls. Do we have enough people like that? I sure hope so. The name of this game is God and Patriotism! John Kennedy brought pride in country and Patriotism back. He demanded schools have PE that made our kids strong and not fat and weak. Yes, he was democrat but not the commies demwits of today.

    14. hangem'high says

      Maybe they can import some illegals that can afford those two hundred thousand to five hundred thousand dollar homes, if they can’t better get ‘em educated so they can!

    15. Jim says

      Bingo!!!

    16. Combatvet52 says

      Your first nine words is what it has to be……….and send back the other 11 million that we are supporting.

    17. standforfreedom says

      Agree with your four steps, but step Five would be the elimination of ALL public assistance to ALL illegals. Only American citizens would be permitted to collect “American Citizen Benefits”! If they want to work, make sure they pay tax’s, that way they would not be able to send money home to bring more illegals and live off welfare! Push for “State rights” to protect ” their borders” from idiots in Washington and other illegals and special interest groups! Allow ONLY AMERICAN CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

    18. 2 parrots and a dog says

      Our children have incurred thousands in debt to get good jobs that are now being given away to non-citizens. Here’s something that some don’t realize. When a college student takes out school loans during the four year portion of a degree, the interest doesn’t begin until after they graduate. However, interest begins the minute the loan is signed for all grad students. Can you imagine the debt? I don’t have to. My son’s fiance just received her PhD and owes over 80 grand. My son was able to avoid as must debt because he is a physicist and gets a small stipend. He still has one year to go and says he has about 10 grand of debt at this point. So together they are facing almost a house payment and with all these high tech workers being imported they are worried about employment. Meanwhile their debt will increase. These are only two students and this is affecting hundreds of thousands of our children. I agree with you that we must stop importing these workers. It’s not just keeping our kids from working, it’s destroying American lives. This pattern of putting non- Americans before all of us has to stop.

    19. .madashell says

      With all due respect, I submit that your proposal is the Resin of immigration control, lacking the Hardener required to solidify the mix. The Hardener being the cessation of benefits that, historically, have been available only to citizens of the United States of America.

      1. Mynickelsworth says

        I, with all due respect, must agree that that should have been step 1.
        Thanks for reminding me.

    20. sherri palmer says

      Sensible!

    21. Matthew V. Brown says

      That’s almost a quarter’s worth. Seriously, what you say makes so much sense I don’t know why more Republicans aren’t addressing the issue.

    22. barry sharp says

      Step two only requires a wording change to the 14th amendment to the Constitution.

    23. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) says

      Also deport the ones that come here and wind up on welfare! Why should we foot the bill for people’s poor decisions, lack of zeal, or inability to secure work due to lack of education or inability to speak English? I mean if you can’t fill out the application you probably can’t take orders from the supervisor either.

      Example:
      I once briefly ran a “New England Clam Chowder” line for Progresso, Old El Paso, Pillsbury Co. They had a huge wave of Central and South American laborers come through about 2 months after I started in the late 90’s. These guys just walked around laughing and eating the product all day long. Had a guy get his leg wound up in the worm gear from “kicking” a giant clump of freeze dried clams into the hopper (of which he had to remove the safety guard and place his appendage beyond the line that says DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BEYOND THIS LINE) and another that chopped his hand off (well more like 3/4 of his hand 1/4 of his forearm) adjusting 2.5gal cans of sauce on “The Widowmaker” (this big can opener where you put like 50 of these huge cans up there in a square and then turn on a big magnet to lock them down while a 8ft long machete like blade cuts the can tops off). They ran each other over with forklifts and all kinds of craziness. Of course, I — like many others, quit. People that cannot speak and/or read basic English (Like: Warning do not put your hand here with a picture of a stickman holding a severed arm) are dangerous to their coworkers in any jobs involving machines, power equipment, caustic or toxic chemicals, or heights. Funny, in a nation of industry that is probably the most common kind of job — the 9 to 5 factory guy.

      Any immigrant that is not a citizen (or alien resident here legally on work visa, etc.) needs to be wrangled up and deported like they did in the 80’s and 90’s. Then again we are talking about Reagan and Bush administrations — where things actually made some sense.

      Also, legal residents need to go to a basic “American” school to learn U.S. core values, how to count money and make change, read rulers and basic measuring devices (in US standard units), how to speak at minimum basic conversational English, and get a crash course on US Civics and History. AND FOR GOD’S SAKE HOW TO READ A CLOCK! (which I always believed universal but I seem to be wrong)

      Finally, to salute the flag of the United States of America! If they cannot pass, send them back from whence they came!

      Yeah, I totally went there. I know the PC world thinks I am a bigot — but if rational sense is now bigotry then so be it…

    24. Spark1845 says

      YOU HAVE MY VOTE> PERFECT. HANG OBAMA.

  5. George Cahonna says

    American Mexicans really do not like illegals/wetbacks/& now criminals. American Mexicans that came here legally, jumped through all the hoops, paperwork & many of them fought in our wars for that right. Now we got the “illegals”, as far as I’m concerned SEND THEM ALL BACK! If the Congressmen were doing their job in the first place, the illegals would not be here in the first place. We Must Fire Them ALL!
    If it says incumbent, out they go!

    1. Laddyboy says

      George Cahonna: I agree with most of your comment. You must first look at the voting history of the person you are going to vote for. If that person votes against the Constitution or the People, vote him out. Your last sentence is, to a large degree, how I vote.

      1. George Cahonna says

        I would like to see ONE CONGRESSMAN hopping mad about our open borders. Demanding Military action to protect them if necessary. Demanding Illegals to GO HOME or you will be rounded up & returned to your Country. You don’t see this crap going on in Canada do you? Congressmen; If your not part of the solution, you are the problem!

    2. surj says

      George Cahonna Agree with what you say, The way I see the only difference is when Mexicans come over to USA they don’t want to change the culture, life style and DON’T want to subjugate the Americans but integrate .Where as when muslims come to USA they want to change the culture ,life style and subjugate Americans , and take over in the end, that is what their Quran demands of them . Now see http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

      1. George Cahonna says

        I personally know many legal Mexican American’s. They are good hard working people, majority live by “Christian Standards”. On the other hand, any religion that teaches hatred, “death” to those who refuse to follow it’s teachings… This is an ENEMY OF AMERICA! PERIOD.. Take it from there, what we should be doing with this culture?

      2. coleche says

        Yeah? Ever hear of Cinco de Mayo. I’ve been seeing a lot of Mexican flags. Don’t misunderstand, The Mexicans that are descendents of those who where here before Texas fought for her independence, are good solid citizens for the most part.

        1. George Cahonna says

          coleche..WE as Americans are all in this together. I to see the flags & respect the mexican heritage, but thats where it stops. Today Either your an American, & except the Constitution/Bill of Rights as part of your new Patriotism. Or go the H*** back to YOUR Promised Land. This is one American Patriot that is ready to start kicking some Anti-American A**. Who is with me?

    3. hjjusa says

      If you want a President that will do something about illegal immigration check out this link http://www.dmldaily.com/dml-speech-in-new-hampshire/

      1. Mark Clemens says

        I some what like this dude……

    4. sherri palmer says

      Agreed!

  6. Kepha Hor says

    Sorry, folks. I get off the bus here. I have no quarrel with people who come here legally; and many who have come from some very nasty countries as refugees end up 150% Americans. I believe that the solution would be to put some actual teeth into the laws we already have, so that the deportation machinery works in a timely manner when it is needed, and we can make room for someone who will be a plus to us rather than a minus.

    1. ron8072 says

      With Obama redefining so many illegals as refugees, offering work permits with instant acceptance to social programs intended for down-on-their-citizens such as welfare, food stamps, public housing, education, and now pushing for their fast-track to citizenship along with voting rights, how does one find those that you label as “someone who will be a plus to us rather than a minus”? I have no problem either with those who come here legally. No problem at all. But I do have a problem with anyone who games the system by sneaking across our border, even if they are invited by Obama. There are not enough jobs for Americans now. Why can’t we only accept immigrants that are focused on a better life and a better America? Immigrants are more likely to belong to the solution rather than the problem that fake refugees and illegals provide Americans.

    2. Laddyboy says

      Anyone who comes to America as an immigrant and does not pull their own weight; BACK THEY GO! Immigrants who do not want to assimulate, WITHIN 5 YEARS, into becoming an American; BACK THEY GO! Anyone who is an immigrant and commits ANY criminal act; BACK THEY GO! America only wants the People who will contribute!!

      1. Brenda Harrell says

        Back they go any way, they are illegally here to begin with, that breaks the law, and they are criminals.

    3. George Cahonna says

      I agree Kepha

    4. Cami W says

      Kepha, ask America’s native Americans/indians, about what happens when borders aren’t controled.

    5. John Doe says

      Kepha Hor, you must have forgotten the demoncRATs need as many illegals in this country as possible to keep voting their party into power. Just where would they be if they stopped giving away all the freebies that are paid for by us with the unfair taxes and ridiculous regulations to the undeserving people ( the leeches, cockroaches and the parasites of this country) ? They’re all about income redistribution.

  7. SNuss says

    We need to stop any new illegal immigrants by sealing the borders. Illegal immigration needs to be made a CRIMINAL offense, and repeat offenses are made felonies, with jail time, THEN deportation.

    1. surj says

      SNuss.”…with jail time ,THEN deportation ” Why jail in first place ,why spend taxpayers money to keep them in jail? Straight deport them

      1. SNuss says

        Because (IMHO) there needs to be a penalty associated with the crime, as an incentive not to do it again. Otherwise, all they need to do is jump the fence, and they are back where they started. BTW, deportations should be more than (in the case of Mexicans) just kicking them to the other side of the border. They need to send them hundreds of miles inland.

        1. coleche says

          Why should the taxpayer be penalized by jailing the wetbacks? Just deport them, If they return do something drastic to make them not want to be here. Jail time just doesn’t work on career criminals.

          1. SNuss says

            What do you suggest? Cruel and unusual punishments are prohibited by the Bill of Rights.

          2. coleche says

            I’m not allowed to put what I would like to do or have done. In my own thoughts, when someone takes it on them selves to commit a crime against someone else, they are essence revoking the rights of the victim. When this happens (not politically correct) the perpetrator should forfeit all their rights. They should receive 10 times in punishment as to what they inflicted on the victim, with no right to appeal!

          3. coleche says

            our bill of rights and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution are not guaranteed to foreign nationals.

          4. SNuss says

            Unfortunately, that isn’t correct. That is why there were so many objections to the Obama regime trying terrorists in the United States, because they WOULD be subject to the same legal rights as citizens.

          5. coleche says

            What turnip tree did you fall off of. You better read the constitution and the bill of right. Don’t bother replying, I’m not going to spend the evening debating with a liberal.

          6. SNuss says

            I didn’t say that I wouldn’t like to do something different, but as a Constitution-respecting CONSERVATIVE, I believe in the rule of law. And illegal aliens DO have SOME rights, under our Constitution. See: http://immigration.lawyers.com/general-immigration/legal-rights-of-illegal-immigrants.html

            BTW, I believe Obama deserves to be impeached AND convicted for his numerous illegal actions.

          7. coleche says

            Please accept my apology for the misunderstanding. Conservatives need to unite for the common goal.

    2. Laddyboy says

      SNuss: Sneaking into America ALREADY IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. The “occupier of the President’s Office” is IGNORING Federal Laws which he does not like. The occupier has broken SO MANY Constitutional Laws which ‘congress’ should have already IMPEACHED him and removed all of his appointees. ‘b. obama’, himself, stated that he does NOT have the authority to perform his “amnesty” actions. STILL he has done them. Look at ‘l. lynch’. She has stated that she intends to support ‘b. obama’ and his law breaking ways. She stated that the Second Amendment needs to be removed. YET!!!!! ‘congress’ accepted her as the “A.G.” that is SUPPOSED to defend and enforce al of the LAWS OF THE LAND – – – the Constitution of These United States of America.
      WHAT A SHAME FOR THE CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN WHO VOTED HER IN.
      Now America KNOWS who needs to be voted OUT of Office.

      1. SNuss says

        Unfortunately, it IS only a civil violation: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325

  8. peter says

    Obama, the democrats and some republicans immigration policies severely limit opportunities for all Americans. Plus taxpayers are burdened with supporting them. In Europe 80% of Muslims collect welfare. Muslims in Europe are America’s Hispanics.

    1. surj says

      peter .Just Google ”Muslim demography ” and listen

    2. Paul says

      I can see your ignorance Peter, before you say something about welfare why you dont read about the welfare records, the number one on the list are white people and the second are blacks, something else u need to know is u can not receive welfare if u are not legal in this country.

  9. randi says

    There are enough Muslims in this country. All they are good for is terror.

  10. jsccats says

    Walker has moved up on my list of those I would support in 2016. People need to keep in mind that most of the lslamic terrorists have been legal immigrants even if some overstayed visas, many of those joining ISIS are coming from legal immigrant communities, and a lot of IS citizens have been loosing jobs to legal immigrants especially H1 visa holders and the tech companies want more of them.

    1. Laddyboy says

      If an immigrant wants to fight for ‘isis’ let them go! Bar their readmittance to America. Void their passports forever. Let them know if they are caught on American soil they will be prosecuted for wanton murder and mayhem and will forfeit their lives.

      1. SNuss says

        Why just immigrants? If a U.S. citizen wants to fight for our enemies, they, too should be denied re-entry, and such an act should void their citizenship.

        1. Laddyboy says

          Agreed. Thank You for completing my thoughts.

  11. old broad says

    Ya and BS makes the grass grow green ! They will swear they are against it and are going with the will of the people ! As soon as it comes to a actual vote they will roll over and kiss ovomit arse and say yes sir what ever you want ! Just like the back stabbing rats have done ever since Nov. !

    1. Jennifer Dunn says

      Actually yes, BS does make grass grow. Farmers everywhere use manure to fertilize plants. It’s been used for fertilizer for thousands of years.

  12. e111w says

    Not good enough. Lock down both borders. Fine employers who hire tham – as opposed to rewarding them on a per head basis as now proposed. Use e-verify. Deport all the rest to be found. Get back on track with overstayed visas – boot them. Impose import duties on goods made out-of-country by U.S. corporations – payable by the corporations and/or the foreign manufacturer. Use the money from duties to assist manufacturing start-ups in country. Taxes paid by restored workers and sale of goods will boost the economy for the nation – not just for Wall Street and the corps. (Alexander Hamilton with Jefferson did the same basic thing with the Brits around 1800 to force self sufficiency of our nation – as opposed to buying about everything from the Brits.) Lower taxes overall to boost investment. Force corps to either account for offshore holdings or, better yet, move them onshore. See anything new here? What goes around comes around, eh? Those who refuse the lessons of history are……………………………..! We don’t all forget.

  13. Brenda Harrell says

    We already have laws on the books! Enforce them, and kick all illegals out of this country and make them come in like all before them have. It is not right that they not follow the same rules and laws that the ones before them had to! It is like a slap in their faces, as well as Americans. No amnesty to illegals. If they say it would break their families up to go back, take them with you, it is your fault this happened by breaking the law! We do not need any further laws for immigration.

  14. MAHB001 says

    Secure the borders, then lets talk.

    GET THAT CONGRESS, GET THAT MR. 0BAMA?

  15. adrianvance says

    The economics are very simple: We have 93 million people out of work of a potential 180 million workers and a President who says that is 5.75% unemployment “as so many are no longer looking for work.” That is not the issue, Mr. Obama the issue is that they are not working! 51.4% of them! We do not need more welfare cases and that is all most of these Central Americans amount to.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  16. disqus_C6fGXmCFNc says

    Ckose the borders completely and no one can enter legal or illegal until this nonsense is cleared up and never ever allow muslims to enter.

  17. papa doug says

    Oh sure wait until all the horses are running down the road THEN close the stable door. Good move guys what do you want a brownie button? Now I suppose you want us to pat you on the back?

  18. bdcorvette says

    We need to keep out all of Obama’s Somalis and Yemenis. They contribute nothing, have no work skills, do not wish to assimilate, and support terrorism. The traitor is setting us up for a bad time after he leaves office. Perhaps he will move to Minnesota or Michigan where he can live amongst them.

  19. Len Tippett says

    This is not about a President who is willing to put his head before his heart. This is really about a President who is willing to put the country before his desire for greed and power at the expense of America.

  20. Spark1845 says

    I’m not republican but I am for CLOSING OUR BORDERS TO ALL. PERIOD.

  21. DrRGP says

    Doesn’t virtually every other nation control its border? American policy can be described by words from a popular game show: “Come on down!”–or, more accurately, “Come on up!” And once here, legally, or, more often, illegally, the migrants and their children and their children’s children are “good to go” for life! Who can resist that temptation?

    This (“Republicans Turning Against Legal Immigration”) is an interesting story, of course, but the tipping point has already been reached on immigration. The United States is being transformed into a country that would not even be recognizable by earlier generations of Americans.

  22. USCBIKER says

    Wrong, we DO need to put an airtight lock on the border! There are already more than enough Julios to mow lawns, wash cars or bus tables. This country either takes its rightful power to control the quality and quantity of its immigration or we wind up like Europe. I think this is a move by Walker to hit Rubio where he’s shaky.

  23. fred says

    This may come as a surprise, however the TRUTH is that many, many, countries like Mexico JAIL illegal immigrants and make them perform labor for free in prisons until they have served their time for BREAKING their LAWS! Illegal immigrants like the fake potus who come here on a FOREIGN student visa from Malaysia or whereever are BRAKING our laws and no executive order from an illegal alien himself is going to change that! We cannot support “birth rooms” in El Paso or any of the children coming in from the south (mostly!) and expect to survive as a Constitutional Republic where Laws are followed and respected. Send the potus to Federal prison and start cleaning up the MESS he has burdened us with immediately!

  24. sherri palmer says

    We do need a border fence and no more from south of the border should be allowed in! They have abused all of our laws and then maimed, killed, raped, stolen from us…they are low class, low culture, heathens and their age of sexual consent is btween 11-13, they are piss pots, we have nothing in common with those piss pots. They are the same as muslims!

  25. Tracy Jones says

    I hate to say it,but the republican’s are right.The mass exodus to the United States has to end.We need
    to think about the American people first.We can not allow the immigrants (legal or illegal)to continue to
    come into the United states.Their are already too many people here.It is getting to the point where
    their isn’t enough water or food to water and feed the people we have in the states now,especially with
    the drought that has started.Every one thousand years,a one hundred year drought happens.It has started again,starting in 2007.It started in California and it is starting to move it’s way east.It’s not going
    to get any easier.Eventually the entire country will be involved in this one hundred year drought.

  26. Arizona Don says

    No one who is conservative is against legal immigration without reason. Because illegal immigration has been allowed by both political parties (to the extent of abuse) and even in some cases like the present administration (unconstitutionally) encouraged and to some degree even sanctioned. We now have an immigrant problem. Regardless of what the goal was of any president all since and including Reagan have not restricted the possibility of excess immigration by closing the border. Presently it is estimated by those supporting amnesty to be about eleven million. But realistically (which that estimate is not) that is not even a possibility it may be more realistic to estimate the illegal immigrant problem more like (as some border patrol agents predict) 60 to 80 million or more. After all eleven million is only 220,000 per state since they are in all fifty states. In reality there may be 11 million in California alone. After all it is a “sanctuary state” and does seem to both welcome and help to support them so they do get the lions share of illegal immigrants thru Arizona. To a lessor degree Texas.

    In any case if all are made citizens and allowed to vote if they vote (as a block) for only one party that party will rule supreme. That is currently the leftist goal. That will be the party who gives away the most. That party will not be conservative they still offer opportunity not gifts. That does seem to be both the fear and possible outcome of immigration run amuck. But not run amuck because the immigration system is broken but instead because the laws are not enforced. The reason it is both feared and possible is we are importing people we can make dependent on government. When past immigrants migrated to America they looked for opportunity (not welfare) and that opportunity would give them the ability to be “independent.” The vast majority of those coming illegally now have no such goal. The goal is to better themself, of course, and some, or perhaps most, are willing to work but government interference and give away programs will soon convert them to dependence. Many if not most will learn how easy it is to game the system and will. With assistance, I might add, form the federal government itself.

    In the final analysis the nations sovereignty and the citizens liberties are being threatened from within by the share the wealth people whether left or right. No able bodied person can ever be helped permanently with handouts. That is not help because they become slaves. There is a reason for that “Don’t feed the animals” sign in the national forest. It makes them dependent and if dependent and the food stops they die. Complete government control begins with dependency. What is so difficult to understand about that.

  27. RMCSRET says

    Can anyone out there answer this question. How many legal immigrants entered the country between
    1920 and 1970? Should provide for interesting comments.

    1. Arizona Don says

      I have no knowledge of immigration during the time period you suggest. However, illegal immigration did not become a known problem factor until Carter. There is a reason for that.

      I have flown the Arizona border (low level) the most. But also Texas and New Mexico. Mostly with government agencies (NOT the border patrol or customs) . I did know many border patrol personal before I retired. I lived on the border.

      Most estimated the problem to be many times what it is estimated at today by the amnesty crowd. You may recall when they were advocating not being able to deport them all because of the large number they estimated that number to be 20 million or more. Now however, when they advocate amnesty they estimate that number much lower at eleven million. (To a liar the objective determines the story – facts have no relevancy) Without, I might add, an explanation of the reason for the difference in number. You see they use the lack of knowledge of the actual number to advocate for their objective. Whatever makes that objective look the best that is what is used. Little difference from anything else they (the progressives) do or attempt to do.

      In any case the number estimated by those with some expertise is more like 80 million some say even higher. In the final analysis however, no one knows for sure. But one thing you can count on 11 million is not accurate and neither is the five million number used for amnesty. Take that to the bank. But like the ACA I guess we have to pass it to find out what it covers don’t we?

      In 1887
      Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh,
      had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
      “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
      permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the
      time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the
      public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the
      candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the
      result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy,
      (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

      “The
      average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
      beginning of history, has been
      about 200 years. During those 200
      years, these nations always progressed
      through the following sequence:

      From bondage to spiritual faith;
      From spiritual faith to great courage;
      From courage to liberty;
      From liberty to abundance;
      From abundance to
      complacency;
      From complacency to apathy;
      From apathy to dependence;

      From dependence back into bondage.”

      The Obituary
      follows:

      Born 1776, Died 2016

      Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
      St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
      the last Presidential election:

      Number of States won
      by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29

      Square miles of land won by: Obama:
      580,000 Romney: 2,427,000

      Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million
      Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties
      won by: Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

      Professor Olson adds: “In
      aggregate, the map of the territory
      Romney won was mostly the land owned by the
      taxpaying citizens of the country.

      Obama territory mostly
      encompassed those citizens living in low
      income tenements and living off various forms of
      government welfare…”

      Olson believes the United
      States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor
      Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s
      population already having reached the “governmental dependency”
      phase..

      If Congress grants amnesty
      and citizenship to twenty million
      criminal invaders called illegal’s
      and they vote – then we can say
      goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years .

      Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake,

      knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

      1. RMCSRET says

        Arizona Don well if I am not mistaken there was NO LEGAL IMMIGRATION into the
        United States from some where in the 1920’s until the 1970″s. It was also
        Theodore (Teddy) Kennedy who actually lot legal Immigration restarted in the
        United States since he decided the Democratic Party was starting to lose to many
        of its lower class citizens they needed to keep the Party Viable.

  28. Laurence Almand says

    About time they did! Read the good book INVASION by Michelle Malkin to find out how the immigrant invasion is harming our country. The corporate Republicans wanted large numbers of immigrants in order to have a supply of cheap labor – now they realize the harm outweighs the benefits.
    Republicans have also introduced bills to stop those “anchor babies” that are such a burden to our society – let’s hope they succeed. Enough is enough!

  29. Mark Clemens says

    Illegal immigrants should be shipped home immediately. What’s the point in keeping them in holding cells? That costs more
    I know this is a country made by immigrants. The difference between the 1900 immigrants is they were some what rich (they paid for passage) and they had respect, manners, worked hard.
    Our 2000 immigrants are poorer, expect hand outs, have little or no manners or respect.
    I think the politicians need to take a good look at the other side of the globe. Look how jam packed their cities are. God made only so much land. Over there they ran out.
    That’s the main reason we are the # 1 agriculture exporter. We have the most farm lands. I think we should look at the USA as a Country Club, who’s membership and grounds are almost full. That means we should be more picky who gets in. Not every Tom, Mohammed, Pedro are just let in, because this is the melting pot. IMHO the pot is full……..

  30. Ken Trefaller says

    Halt all immigration for five years. Some exceptions. We need to get back to normal. Immigrants used to come here to be Ameicans. Wake up America

  31. JerryByrne says

    mynicklesworth – good comments! Game plan to accomplish
    immigration law reform looks good. Would LOVE to see presidential
    candidates (GO Scott Walker) strongly take this stand. We need to act
    now before Europe’s problems become ours.

  32. zidbear says

    We have people in office that want them to come in it is votes for them they don’t care as long as they get back in office. they want the power and money of the office. They are all out for their self’s. They will do anything to stay in office they will say anything to stay there. they give a lot of lip service but do nothing to stop them from coming in. Drugs the same way it all boils down to money. If there wasn’t any money in drugs it would be stopped. just like cancer they have been studying cancer for years like 60 or 70 years or more. I do believe they have a cure for it but they won’t let it come in to this country because of money. the pharmaceuticals companies don’t want it because they have chemo and radiation as the biggest cures for cancer one makes you sicker and one burns you up it kill my little sister she did both and they implanted a tube of radiation in her they left it to long burned her up in side.If i’m ever get cancer i won’t take either one of these. Everything boils down to money if you don’t believe me ask hillary she said they were broke she got millions and bill got millions why in the whitehouse. they are not poor by any means i.d love to be as poor as these people say they are. We need to shut our broaders up to everyone go through and round up everyone that is illegal here and ship them back to where they come from. put the national guard on the boarders. don’t let anyone in with out a pass port and a good reason to be here. canada truck drivers come here and mexico trucks well we need to stop mexico trucks from coming in to our country. they don’t have the same safety laws on trucks as we do. Then if they are trying to get in shot them and ask question later. Let’s not let other countries buy our businesses and bring their people here to work on a visa. if a foreign country owns a business here their money stay here in our country and the workers have to be americans only. Now these companies bring in their people and work them to death for peanuts and thats not right. I PRAY we close the boarders soon and have a round up and a shipping party out of our great country. lets stop putting money power hungry people in office stop the lying from them. GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN.

  33. Michael Skok says

    These politicians are absolutely corrupt. The Democrats love illegals because those illegals will vote Democrat. The Republicans love illegals because they work for peanuts.

  34. theseer says

    The corrupt U.N is behind all these massive numbers of refugees!
    The NWO control them.
    THEY INTEND TO BRING 100’S OF MILLIONS AS CLEARLY DETAILED IN THE
    U.N AGENDA 21 PLAN TO INVADE AND TAKE OVER AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
    The only peoples in danger of losing their lives they don’t allow in are: WHITE!
    More than 3,000 white Africans (farmers) have been bludgeoned to death with
    machetes and only one mention of it in the news media….the black Africans
    also torcher these people with electrical devises…steal what little money they
    may have on them…AND NO PROTECTION IS OFFERED THEM BY OUR
    GOVERNMENT NOR THE USELESS U.N!!!!!!!!

  35. Obie Miller says

    This is complete and utter foolishness! Even a “limited”amount of “illegal” immigration is still ILLEGAL. Our country already has a LEGAL way for immigrants to enter, but our present political administration is simply and directly refusing to comply with those laws, and our entire current administration is complicit in this.

  36. Lily Haley says

    Immigration was more reasonable when the nation was sparsely populated. That is no longer the case. We are also deeply in debt. Drought is reducing our food growing potential and water supply. It is time for a moratorium.

  37. thomas says

    Democrat’s push this Amnesty immigration onto the People of the USA ? Allowing illegals to enter into the USA to live and stay here. There is already a System which has been available to Foreigners to become US Citizens Legally . This is the Right Way to enter the USA to become a Naturalized Citizen . Coming into America illegally smuggling in or other means which are not legal are harmful to the US Citizens. Amnesty to illegals is wrong it gives to the illegal entry before those whom are entering through the correct and legal methods. Sends out a very wrong message to the Foreigners waiting to enter Legally.
    USA is without a big Jobs Market for many of its Own Citizens currently without jobs living on subsidies or government benefits. New arrivals of illegals or on Amnesty would mean more unemployed without jobs needing to be on government funding benefits , this would over burden the Government Benefits programs to points of collapse . Liberal Democrat’s need to understand this and agree to stop this Democrat sponsored Amnesty for illegals champaign ?

  38. Trisha55 says

    If you have been paying attention for the last 15 years, you know that especially Information Technology jobs are at risk for Americans because of LEGAL immigration from India. The number of Visas for workers from India has been increased dramatically and they have come in droves and taken our jobs. The jobs we can get now pay less because of them. This is a huge problem and something needs to be done to stop it.

  39. MARYSWEET says

    We are a nation of immigrants but most of our ancestors came here LEGALLY. The first thing that needs to be done is to close and LOCK the borders, especially the southern border. From there we need to repeal the law that allows illegals to come here to have their babies so they will be citizens. I think the guest worker permits are not checked at all so it’s like opening the border all over again so some other arrangement needs to be made where they can be tracked. Because of common core our kids are being dumbed down so that is an excuse to let in technical people from other countries in on work visas. That needs to be looked at closer and corrected.
    THE VERY FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS TO STOP ANY MORE ILLEGALS FROM COMING IN (THAT INCLUDES THOSE THAT OBAMA IS NOW FLYING IN) AND CLOSE AND LOCK THE BORDER AND BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT KEEPING ILLEGALS OUT.

  40. Oldawg70 says

    Afraid we are not going to resolve the problems of this country through legislation…politicians no longer represent the will of the people! Overhauling our present system will likely come as a result of bloodshed. Can’t believe we have allowed this country to degenerate to this point! We are just a powder keg sitting under a shower of sparks…

    1. Mark Clemens says

      ………Fire in the Hole!!!!!!!

  41. peter says

    Liberal morons like you Paul are full of shit. Get your facts straight a-hole!!! How about percentages of whited vs blacks and other minorities?

  42. Alleged Comment says

    This is why the Tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time and why we developed rope.

  43. MichaelZZ says

    August 24, 2013

    PROBLEM: Unauthorized visitors

    DEFINITION: Unauthorized visitors are those persons who enter a country without legal authorization and those who overstay their authorized period.

    CAUSES, REASONS, AND PROVENANCE: The main reason for unauthorized visitors is that people want and hope to improve their lives and the lives of their families and will gravitate to those situations where the economics provide the incentives to make the change.

    DISCUSSION: I think all would stipulate that anyone has the right to attempt to better his or her conditions insofar as those efforts do not infringe upon the rights of others.

    Each nation has the right and obligation to establish immigration laws for the orderly and rational
    assimilation of authorized immigrants.

    Do the following comments provide justification for unauthorized immigration?

    1. Unauthorized immigrants are looking to better their situations.

    2. Unauthorized immigrants provide inexpensive labor and are hard workers.

    3. This Nation was built upon immigrants.

    4. It is virtually impossible to find and deport 12,000,000 unauthorized immigrants.

    The answers to the above four should be an unequivocal “NO”.

    If anyone disagrees with that, I will appreciate his or her reasoning for a “yes” response.

    RECOMMENDED “COMPREHENSIVE” SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM:

    A foolproof system must be devised, implemented, with substantial penalties for non-compliance that will verify a person’s legal authorization to work in the United States.

    The concept of “anchor babies” should be eliminated, either by a pragmatic interpretation of the 14th
    Amendment (displaced the disputed Civil Rights legislation of 1866, which was passed by Congress over Andrew Johnson’s veto, and which was proposed by Congress six months after the 13th Amendment had been ratified), by Congressional legislation in accordance with Section 5 of the 14th Amendment, or by a Constitutional Amendment, that could and should be passed by the House and
    Senate and ratified by the requisite 38 states within a year.

    There should be a $4.00 (arbitrary) per gallon increase in the federal excise tax on gasoline and
    diesel, at the pump.

    A tax credit would be allowed any U.S. taxpayer (who possesses a valid driver’s license and submits proof of vehicle registration and proof of insurance) in the amount of $2,000.00 per
    year (10,000 miles @ 20 MPG = 500 gallons, thus, 500 X $4.00 = $2,000.00).

    Ancillary benefits would include that this federal excise tax would be collected from all visitors, authorized and unauthorized, and this would stimulate purchasers of new vehicles to demand
    more mileage efficiency, i.e., there would be no need for the government to force manufacturers to increase mileage efficiencies. The marketplace would be effective.

    Federal legislation should be passed that would eliminate all minimum wage laws. The “minimum wage”
    concept should be replaced with a massive expansion of the EITC regulations, which would cover all U.S. taxpayers who are older than 17 years of age.

    Another benefit would be that labor costs would be shifted from “above-the-line” to
    “below-the-line”, making our industries more competitive.

    CONCLUSION: If the above changes were legislated, a substantial number of unauthorized visitors would conclude that it would be better to end their visits, since the economics of remaining in the
    United States, without authorization, would be substantially diminished.

    After a year, the situation should be reviewed and adjustment should be made to further the resolution of this serious matter.

    It is logical that a newborn should assume the nationality of the mother, regardless of the venue of the
    birth, therefore, the strategy of a mother, who has no authorization to be in the U.S., giving birth in the United States should be of no consequence.

    This is a nascent effort at offering a pragmatic and rational solution to this serious matter.

    NOTES: This will be a process, i.e., not an overnight solution. I will appreciate all comments, critical
    as well as supportive, with the former being most appreciated if rational reasons are included.

    Representative Sherman is aware of this article, has promised a response and has failed to do so. We, the People are begging for leaders, not pure politicians who have embedded within their DNA the need to withhold the truth.

    mikiesmoky@aol.com

    mz

    Last modified: July 24, 2010

    Last modified – June 29, 2013

    Last modified – August 24, 2013

    ___________________________________________________________

    THE FOLLOWING IS A RESPONSE TO A
    COMMENT TO THE ABOVE:

    (modified on August 24, i.e., not
    included in original response,)

    June 13, 2013

    Phunyfarm,

    Thank you for your comments and perspective.

    My comments should be and are meant to be the beginning of a serious

    “problem-solving”
    discussion of this extremely serious matter.

    Most respond negatively to the excise tax with the perception that they couldn’t afford $8.00 per gallon.
    Apparently, those do not understand the tax credit, until they stop yelling at the
    idea long enough to have it explained to them.

    Additional benefits would be that all visitors would pay the $8.00 per gallon, which would benefit our tax
    receipts, AND purchasers of automobiles will demand more efficient vehicles (the tax credit would expire within 5-10 years).

    The EITC would substitute for minimum wage laws ONLY for American citizens and those with legal authority to work, here. The rationale for the 18yo requirement is to provide a disincentive for high school students to leave school early.

    The lack of a minimum wage and increased expenses (gasoline) would make it difficult for those visitors who decided to stay rather than go back to country of origin. All “visitors” should be welcomed to come and enjoy activities…., then go home and live happy lives.

    Again…., these thoughts should be discussed and “fine-tuned”.

    At a Townhall Meeting a couple
    months ago, I gave a copy to my Congressman, Brad Sherman. Before I handed it
    to him, as I walked up to him, he shook my hand and exclaimed that I want to
    change how our government functions and have 17 different causes. We have had a
    number of discussions and he has NEVER disagreed with me. At a
    “coffee”, last year, he came up to me and whispered that he was
    closer to my ideas than any one else in Congress.

    The unfortunate factor is that he
    is a politician. Mr. Sherman is possibly one of our most intelligent and
    knowledgeable people in Congress and I like him, but he does not appear to be
    that which We the People are begging for, a leader, and, as with almost all
    politicians, he has the DNA embedded within that enables him to withhold the
    truth, at best.

    He told me to write my phone
    number on the item I gave him (Illegal Visitors), but has not called nor has
    any of his staff.

    UPDATE: Late June, I spoke
    with Scott, Rep. Sherman’s top campaign person, who was going to review the
    above and get back to me.

    Finally, on July 11, since Scott
    had not called me, I called him and expressed my displeasure with his
    failure. The conversation (admittedly, more of a monologue by me) lasted
    about 15 minutes. Again, he has failed to follow-up.

    mz

    1. raziel71 says

      The “above” is impossible as both parties sleep with the oil cartels. Your $8 dollars a gallon would have other consequences. There is no way to pay for that even in the first year awaiting for the tax break. Not everyone pay taxes, even if they have citizenship. And the burden will go to the working man, not to the welfare or illegals. Your system and idea are flawed. There have been millions of reasons to make us less dependable of oil yet no one at the government are interested about it. There have been inventors killed because they have found ways to manufacture high milleage vehicles. In a perfect world or fantasyland your idea might work, but not here. The only way to avoid illegal inmigration is with thougher laws, more deportation and make it so difficult that they find better to go some place else.

      1. MichaelZZ says

        REGARDING: The “above” is impossible as both parties sleep with the oil cartels.
        RESPONSE: Whereas you may be correct, it may be that both parties are confused. It is also possible you may be wrong. Oil is a fungible commodity, thus unless there is a shortage, we should not be concerned about requisite acquisitions, whether be from indigenous or external sources.
        Regardless, we must move in the correct direction

        REGARDING: Your $8 dollars a gallon would have other consequences.
        RESPONSE: Okay…, let’s count the ways…………

        REGARDING: There is no way to pay for that even in the first year awaiting for the tax break.
        RESPONSE: That thought is invalid, since all an employee need do is to change his or her W-4, which would cause less taxes to be withheld from current paychecks.

        REGARDING: Not everyone pay taxes, even if they have citizenship. And the burden will go to the working man, not to the welfare or illegals. Your system and idea are flawed.
        RESPONSE: There are reasons why someone does not pay income taxes, e.g., low wages, unemployed, being paid ‘under the table’, etc.
        One would be able to file a tax return and receive a credit and there can, again, utilize the W-4 to receive the tax credit in current pay.
        One who is unemployed would receive a portion (perhaps 30%) of the tax credit.

        REGARDING: There have been millions of reasons to make us less dependable of oil yet no one at the government are interested about it. There have been inventors killed because they have found ways to manufacture high milleage vehicles. In a perfect world or fantasyland your idea might work, but not here.
        RESPONSE: You have wandered from the topic.

        REGARDING: The only way to avoid illegal inmigration is with thougher laws, more deportation and make it so difficult that they find better to go some place else.

        RESPONSE: Whereas I appreciate the offerings, it may be that you are allowing pre-conceived notions to confuse your perceptions.

        I do not mind problems, since they are the weeds of life.
        It’s the non-recognition of a problem that is damaging.
        Once a problem is recognized, it must be understood.

        The #1 cause of “unauthorized visitors” is economics, thus the economics must be mitigated. With that in mind, please re-read the article.

        No solution will be perfect, but we should review ALL options and select the best option.

        Again…, I appreciate your thoughts, since rational dialog will lead to the best option.

        mz

  44. ward says

    The only reason for this illegal or legal foreigner invasion has appeared as a support for bo’s dictatorship that bo has been creating for the last 6 years & congress doing nothing to stop bo’s violating U.S. Laws !

  45. Marilyn Stern says

    Until Obama, legal immigration was limited to approximately one million per year. Then the Obama/Jarrett administration opened the flood gates to Muslim immigration and increased student visas for Muslims by seven hundred percent. One million, five hundred thousand Muslims came into the United states in October 2014, and that was in just one month. Caught the story, which quickly disappeared, because it was said that the group included an entire village with relaxed security. Most recent flash in the pan story was about a couple million Syrian refugees Obama wanted to bring to the United States. Ever thought about why we have so many new Mosques, with schools attached so they can educate their own children (you don’t see many Muslim children in American schools until they enter college) and why we now have so many Muslim organizations making demands. Obama has several Muslim Czars in his cabinet to aid in assimilation. Riots against Jews on college campuses have increased a hundred fold because entrenched Muslims now organize protests. Illegal immigrants are a big problem but they will soon be overshadowed by Muslim demands for Sharia law. Muslims have said their flag will fly over the White House by 2016. The Jarrett/Obama administration has given them support and a good foothold.

  46. organic girl says

    While politicians politely discuss, the illegals swarm, breed and infiltrate.

    Elected leaders = inefficient action. Too little, too late you guys in DC.
    You have FAILED your constituents and your country.

  47. Rboo says

    Quite frankly, with an 18 million deficit (thanks to Obama) and millions of Legal American Citizens out of work, they may need to do that for a while. I don’t think that should be long term. I definitely think the illegal situation needs to be dealt with immediately and continuously. I also think the so-called “anchor baby” needs to be done away with. If 2 Americans were vacationing in say France and the wife gave birth, that would not make their baby a French citizen, so why does it make it so when a South American comes across the border for some free healthcare. I think the States should get to deal with immigration themselves, I know here in Texas and in Arizona they’d be deported faster then Obama can spend money.

  48. hangem'high says

    Both The Republicans and Democrats were for NAFTA sending all industrial jobs over sea‘s why not both for the mass illegal migration that would send the working class from a tail spin into a crash!
    Illegal Immigrants and special interest the new norm. Hell you even have the unions backing this American suicide mission so it must be right for America! The American dream isn’t really what it’s built up to be, unless you have those slaves under a whip!

  49. OldPatriot32 says

    As long as voters continue to keep this traitorous administration (and Congress) in power, this immigration mess will continue to worsen, with street violence mounting by the week. Support your local police!

  50. KatRob says

    How they like to talk about “We’re a nation of immigrants”. This country was founded and intended to be a nation of European immigrants. The founding fathers never intended to have millions of third world riffraff infesting our soil.

  51. Peatro Giorgio says

    Step one stop all immigration for the foreseeable future. Step #2 eject all illegal s from our nation. That truly is much easier to do then the lying sacks of special interest groups claim. U0 and untill we have reached 100% labor force participation of American citizens. Then once again open the nation to legal immigration. However only to those who shall add value to our labor market an our National interest.

  52. MikeS says

    I agree with controlling immigration. Stop illegal immigration. Deport illegal immigrants. Set limits on legal immigrants per year. Get back to enforcing requirements for visitors, visas and citizenship. End birthright citizenship.

    1. Combatvet52 says

      birthright citizenship. is all a bunch of BS moochers

      1. GoldenRudy says

        “anchor babies” is a mis-read of the 14th Amendment. Original intent had nothing to do with that issue. Ratified in 1868, it was in response to the post-Civil War slave issue and citizenship. Too bad there is nobody “brave” enough to fight the current mis-interpretation of that Amendment. Will anyone in the GOP wanting to be POTUS speak to this directly?

  53. HankBar says

    Good idea to stop all immigration for a period of time. All immigrants who are in the legal process of immigrating should be allowed to continue and then stop all immigration until the border is sealed.

    1. GoldenRudy says

      I think it has been done int he past and was very successful. The stench of Ted Kennedy remains for it was / is his 1965 Immigration Bill that has cut into the American fabric.

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  54. Dempsey Coleman says

    I still believe making E-Verify the Law of the Land as Democrats Love to say ever since Obama Care was out in to practice and Finning Employers very High would Dry UP Jobs and force Illegals to Self Deport.

  55. GoldenRudy says

    Where is the voice of organized labor on this? Or is it the voice of organized crime? LOL at union members paying dues to leadership that is in bed with pols willing to give their jobs to illegals and legals instead of them and their family members. LOL, sadly though.

  56. 1American1st says

    This says it all:

  57. jim says

    Absolutely no imigration with out a sponsor, period , and it shouldn’t be the Government or a person with a felony record. We need good immigrants, ones that come here to enrich all of our lives — We can’t simply cut off all immigration but we should be able to pick and choose who and how many we let in. If they come here as criminals, sneaking in, they should never be eligible to become a citizen with out returning to their home of record and applying for legal immigration, that includes children, that’s why we have laws

  58. Michael says

    This is great. A story on illegal immigration with an ad for a Miami immigration attorney with links stating Hillary will legalize all and another comparing GOP stasnces.

  59. FolgyreneU says

    We must face the facts if we continue on our present course as a nation we are doomed to oblivion as a country. None of the current crop of so called politicians have the fortitude to stand up for what our country is supposed to stand for and the precepts it is based on when founded, all they really want is to appeal to as many as possible in order to be elected to the positions of political power. Enabling them to pretty much do as they please as we can see from the things our current President has done to this formally great nation.

  60. LARRY JOHNSON says

    **The repubs are repubs in name only- they are just an off shoot of the filthy perverted democrat thieves- *Good chance MCC onnell & Boehner are on the take-**Their trash

  61. e111w says

    Why don’t we hear pundits and anti- illegal immigration politicians stating?……………

    Our citizens are being screwed by big money banking and corporations who prey upon illegals for cheap labor – then take the extra profits so gained to become even fatter. Some of those extra profits are funneled into the political parties, political action committees and lobbyists who pay for our prostitution to them and their money. We are so deeply prostituted that not only have we allowed 15 or more million American jobs to be sent away to foreign (even communist) countries, we also have the audacity to ignore 15 or more million illegals free entry to take even more of your employment opportunities. The great majority in Congress work for their banking and corporate pimps – (aka tthe New World Order) – not for you nor our nation.

    We as legislators have abrogated our law-making Constitutional duty to “agencies” who make administrative “regulations”. We have become highly proficient in the use of double-speak and outright lying to the citizenry. We are responsible for allowing your impoverishment. Our whoring for money and “power” are the primary cause of current urban poverty and crime – not your police. We spend billions of YOUR diminishing wealth for “programs” said to “placate” the impoverished – while actually funneling those dollars to politically operative organizations which will support party agenda.

    Have you heard this truth from a politician in particular? Have you heard this in such specific terms from media – even from conservative media?

  62. Cami W says

    Close our borders first, shoot down Mexican helicopters that shoot at our border agents, stop illegal immigration and yes, limit legal immigration. Deportation will help, but stop all housing, healthcare, welfare, and jobs for illegal aliens and they will deport themselves.. As a TEA party member I will not support JEB or any other RINO, Ted Cruz or Scott walker are the ones I and most TEA party members will support. The GOP establishment will not take conservative votes for granted again.

  63. ItalianScallion says

    We must stop the flow of unchecked immigration immediatly.The people that are coming NOW are not assimulating , but they are making communities of their own. The people coming now mostly vote Left. Soon America will become a nation of small nations.

  64. Patriot47 says

    The GOP has proven time and time again that they are statist shills.

    1. markypolo says

      So, you are saying that ANY person, regardless of Nationality has a “RIGHT” to enter America, work, suck off our social system, at will???
      I am dumbfounded how Americans got so fcking STUPID. Perhaps you can shed some light on that?

      1. Patriot47 says

        Stupid is thinking there is a difference between the two parties. They are BOTH corrupt to the core. Both parties have acted together in allowing criminals (illegals) to not only remain but also to profit from their crimes by collecting money and services through the federal government.

        1. markypolo says

          I can’t agree with you more. However, there are distinct differences between the “ideologies” of the two Parties. Unfortunately, when they all get to Washington, they start a big orgy. Then become impossible to tell them apart. I believe the ONLY solution is to STOP supporting the Government Crooks. Work Less, Want less, Spend less, Pay less taxes ( preferably NONE).

  65. Lee Berry says

    First we must block the UN which has imported ‘immigrants’ of their own choosing for at least 2 decades. Our gov has allowed the process to proceed uninhibited. The UN should be ousted from the US. Congress has failed to end the UN’s ‘mandated’ policy which is funded by so called religious organizations as well as Arab organizations.

  66. junkmailbin says

    legal immigrants need to meet the following criteria.
    . They must be
    1.college educated
    2.Have job skills that re needed.
    3. Become fluent in English
    4. Give up all government aid and help for life except what they actually earn after citizenship is given.
    5. Their relatives, including wives and children, must file and wait in line .
    6. Any violation of laws civil or criminal including misdemeanors and driving infractions will cause immediate deportation and cancellation of their application.
    NO GRANDFATHER CLAUSE allowed.
    Anyone here that does not meet the above will be removed when found without any appeal. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS and do not have the same rights as actual US CITIZENS

  67. Len Tippett says

    Face it folks. There is only one Republican candidate who campaigns like a conservative and votes like a conservative. His name is Ted Cruz. The entire balance of the Republicans, campaign like a conservative, but vote like a Liberal. I invite you to prove me wrong.

    1. headonstraight says

      Cruz campaigns like a wacko and votes like a wacko and he does not have the proverbial snowball in hell’s chance of becoming the occupant of the oval office because there are not enough wacko votes to win the primary for him, thank Heaven!.

  68. DivineEncounters says

    Too little too late and by the time O completes the next two years and my own Congressman told me they will not Impeach or prosecute him for anything, we will be deeper in the ditch where the Progressive/Liberals have driven the car.

    There is one thing I am happy to see and that is that the Gulf Nations pretty much are telling O where he can go with his Camp David Meeting to get them to go along with the “Deal” with Iran. But he won’t care he will go ahead anyway. Narcissist that he is.

    Meanwhile the Ten Nation Coalition that includes Israel is continuing to take care of the ME.

  69. otoman says

    This IS NOT “republicans turning away from legal immigration”. ONLY STUPID, UNEDUCATED people would believe that. Liberals have no concept of working for American’s. Their base is illegals and dead people. And even the intelligent dead vote conservative!

  70. Mark says

    By the time they get off their collective asses there will be enough of them in country for a takeover and our government don’t care, its what they want and have had planned for years. They ALL need voted out as soon as possible. Then have the next group vote the illegals back out of the country, but then they will riot and cause trouble, so be ready for that. AMERICAN GOVERNMENT,,, ALWAYS,, TO LITTLE,, TO LATE.

  71. jcmoore2010 says

    stop illegal immigration, and american jobs going to americans first and foremost…

    1. headonstraight says

      Why should we stop “…american jobs going to americans first and foremost”?

      Yes, that is what you wrote, Oh mutilator of the Mother Tongue!

  72. Ralph H Moran says

    It is time we made the statement and TURN Against the republicans in office now. No don’t vote democrat send the all a message that we don’t like what they are doing and withhold all contributions to the PARTY.

  73. Bud44 says

    The next president should have the testicular fortitude to inform the Mexican Government that our border is closed. Anyone caught ILLEAGLY crossing our border will be considered an invader and shot by the National Guard and Border Patrol. If the rest of the world doesn’t like it they can kiss our collective ass. The rest of the world, for the most part is always quick to criticize us. How many of them offer help when we are hit with a natural disaster? So why should we care about what they think of us, we already know what they think of us. The only time most of the world want to be our friends is when it comes to their foreign aid. Let me be clear, I am not against the Mexican people legally immigrating into the US, what I am against is the fact that our neighbor to the south will not do anything to help us secure our border. When they put their hand out, it is not for the hand shake of friendship, but for us to put foreign aid into. And if we are so far in debt , why the hell is this asshole president giving away money we don’t have?

    1. headonstraight says

      Shoot all those who cross the border illegally ? Really, Bud? I think you need to double up on those meds.

      1. Bud44 says

        Is your head on straight up your ass? We have terrorists crossing the border. How do you distinguish the difference between an illegal alien a n a terrorist. The problem with this country today is gutless douche bags like you who don’t have the stomach to do what is necessary. When we are attacked again go and see if you can talk the terrorists out of attacking us, just like your asshole president. I and others lioke me will be shooting them. A word of advise don’t try to stop us.

        1. headonstraight says

          Well, you bigmouth blustering butthead, will you be prepared to stand trial for murder?

          1. Bud44 says

            Well sonny in my day I’ve done things that would probably cause you to wet yourself. And I’ve got the court papers to prove it. So yes I’ve got the BALLS to do what is necessary.

          2. headonstraight says

            I learned long ago not to be impressed with pseudo-macho braggadocio.

  74. real talk 1 says

    It’s about time !!

  75. Dan says

    This story is the reason we need to start this over the right way! Send the ILLEGALS packing. If they want citizenship, start the legal way from their own country.

  76. Barbara Ervin says

    I totally agree. When America was still a young. struggling nation we needed immigrants desperately. But we’re all grown up now and don’t have enough jobs for the (over) population we already have!!! Instead of immigrating more workers how about ‘immigrating’ all those outsourced, good paying jobs we’ve lost and putting our nation back to work in jobs that pay enough to support families!

  77. sherri palmer says

    “we are not at that point where we need to put an air tight lock on the border…” What a stupid remark! YES WE ARE and pass that point years ago!

  78. Bob says

    highly DOUBTFUL. They (the GOP) is nothing but a bunch or RINO’s pandering for votes just like the demos!

    1. headonstraight says

      So anyone in the GOP who who does not line up with the disordered agenda of the RRR (Ridiculous Radical Right) is a “RINO”?

      You wackadoodles are building a really big herd of those “RINOs”.

      1. Bob says

        figure it out for yourself. You have roughly 1/2 of the senate is GOP and 1/2 Democrats.
        Of the 1/2 GOP there are quite a few who are RINO’s. McCain, Flake, Lindsey Graham, just to name a few..

  79. MrsTJNic@aol.com says

    Impeach Obama now!

  80. MrsTJNic@aol.com says

    Those who can’t govern themselves, aren’t fit to govern others. This means Obama wasting fuel on his lavish vacations, for Air Force 1, and wasting water to upkeep his golf greens, then preaches Global warming. Practice what you preach.

  81. patrick says

    America is closed until further notice!!!!

  82. MichaelZZ says

    August 24, 2013

    PROBLEM: Unauthorized visitors

    DEFINITION: Unauthorized visitors are those persons who enter a country without legal authorization and those who overstay their authorized period.

    CAUSES, REASONS, AND PROVENANCE: The main reason for unauthorized visitors is that people want and hope to improve their lives and the lives of their families and will gravitate to those situations where the economics provide the incentives to make the change.

    DISCUSSION: I think all would stipulate that anyone has the right to attempt to better his or her conditions insofar as those efforts do not infringe upon the rights of others.

    Each nation has the right and obligation to establish immigration laws for the orderly and rational
    assimilation of authorized immigrants.

    Do the following comments provide justification for unauthorized immigration?

    1. Unauthorized immigrants are looking to better their situations.

    2. Unauthorized immigrants provide inexpensive labor and are hard workers.

    3. This Nation was built upon immigrants.

    4. It is virtually impossible to find and deport 12,000,000 unauthorized immigrants.

    The answers to the above four should be an unequivocal “NO”.

    If anyone disagrees with that, I will appreciate his or her reasoning for a “yes” response.

    RECOMMENDED “COMPREHENSIVE” SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM:

    A foolproof system must be
    devised, implemented, with substantial penalties for non-compliance that will
    verify a person’s legal authorization to work in the United States.

    The concept of “anchor babies” should be eliminated, either by a pragmatic interpretation of the 14th
    Amendment (displaced the disputed Civil Rights legislation of 1866, which was
    passed by Congress over Andrew Johnson’s veto, and which was proposed by Congress
    six months after the 13th Amendment had been ratified), by Congressional legislation in accordance with Section 5 of the 14th Amendment, or by a Constitutional Amendment, that could and should be passed by the House and Senate and ratified by the requisite 38 states within a year.

    There should be a $4.00 (arbitrary) per gallon increase in the federal excise tax on gasoline and
    diesel, at the pump.

    A tax credit would be allowed any U.S. taxpayer (who possesses a valid driver’s license and submits proof of vehicle registration and proof of insurance) in the amount of $2,000.00 per
    year (10,000 miles @ 20 MPG = 500 gallons, thus, 500 X $4.00 = $2,000.00).

    Ancillary benefits would include that this federal excise tax would be collected from all visitors, authorized and unauthorized, and this would stimulate purchasers of new vehicles to demand
    more mileage efficiency, i.e., there would be no need for the government to force manufacturers to increase mileage efficiencies. The marketplace would be effective.

    Federal legislation should be passed that would eliminate all minimum wage laws. The “minimum wage”
    concept should be replaced with a massive expansion of the EITC regulations, which would cover all U.S. taxpayers who are older than 17 years of age.

    Another benefit would be that labor costs would be shifted from “above-the-line” to
    “below-the-line”, making our industries more competitive.

    CONCLUSION: If the above changes were legislated, a substantial number of unauthorized visitors would conclude that it would be better to end their visits, since the economics of remaining in the
    United States, without authorization, would be substantially diminished.

    After a year, the situation should be reviewed and adjustment should be made to further the resolution of this serious matter.

    It is logical that a newborn should assume the nationality of the mother, regardless of the venue of the
    birth, therefore, the strategy of a mother, who has no authorization to be in the U.S., giving birth in the United States should be of no consequence.

    This is a nascent effort at offering a pragmatic and rational solution to this serious matter.

    NOTES: This will be a process, i.e., not an overnight solution. I will appreciate all comments, critical
    as well as supportive, with the former being most appreciated if rational reasons are included.

    Representative Sherman is aware of this article, has promised a response and has failed to do so. We, the People are begging for leaders, not pure politicians who have embedded within their DNA the need to withhold the truth.

    TO RECEIVE A COPY OF THIS ARTICLE OR TO OFFER YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR REQUEST AND COMMENTS TO:

    mikiesmoky@aol.com

    mz

    Last modified: July 24, 2010

    Last modified – June 29, 2013

    Last modified – August 24, 2013

    ___________________________________________________________

    THE FOLLOWING IS A RESPONSE TO A
    COMMENT TO THE ABOVE:

    (modified on August 24, i.e., not
    included in original response,)

    June 13, 2013

    Phunyfarm,

    Thank you for your comments and perspective.

    My comments should be and are meant to be the beginning of a serious “problem-solving”
    discussion of this extremely serious matter.

    Most respond negatively to the excise tax with the perception that they couldn’t
    afford $8.00 per gallon. Apparently, those do not understand the tax credit,
    until they stop yelling at the idea long enough to have it explained to them.

    Additional benefits would be that
    all visitors would pay the $8.00 per gallon,

    which would benefit our tax
    receipts, AND purchasers of automobiles will demand more efficient vehicles
    (the tax credit would expire within 5-10 years).

    The EITC would substitute for
    minimum wage laws ONLY for American citizens and those with legal authority to
    work, here. The rationale for the 18yo

    requirement is to provide a
    disincentive for high school students to leave school early.

    The lack of a minimum wage and
    increased expenses (gasoline) would make it

    difficult for those visitors who
    decided to stay rather than go back to country

    of origin. All
    “visitors” should be welcomed to come and enjoy activities…., then
    go home and live happy lives.

    Again…., these thoughts
    should be discussed and “fine-tuned”.

    At a Townhall Meeting a couple
    months ago, I gave a copy to my Congressman, Brad Sherman. Before I handed it
    to him, as I walked up to him, he shook my hand and exclaimed that I want to
    change how our government functions and have 17 different causes. We have had a
    number of discussions and he has NEVER disagreed with me. At a
    “coffee”, last year, he came up to me and whispered that he was
    closer to my ideas than any one else in Congress.

    The unfortunate factor is that he
    is a politician. Mr. Sherman is possibly one of our most intelligent and
    knowledgeable people in Congress and I like him, but he does not appear to be
    that which We the People are begging for, a leader, and, as with almost all
    politicians, he has the DNA embedded within that enables him to withhold the
    truth, at best.

    He told me to write my phone
    number on the item I gave him (Illegal Visitors), but has not called nor has
    any of his staff.

    UPDATE: Late June, I spoke
    with Scott, Rep. Sherman’s top campaign person, who was going to review the
    above and get back to me.

    Finally, on July 11, since Scott
    had not called me, I called him and expressed my displeasure with his
    failure. The conversation (admittedly, more of a monologue by me) lasted
    about 15 minutes. Again, he has failed to follow-up.

    mz

    1. headonstraight says

      You been hosed, Michael! Sherman is giving you the nut treatment: “Just pacify ’em; say nice agreeable things and maybe they will go away.”

  83. Shauna says

    Maybe I’m just pissy today, but WHAT IMMIGRATION?????The damn borders are wide open for any POS to slither in! BOTH parties are responsible for this and they are BOTH responsible for any future attacks on the American people because of the LACK of enforcing the laws we already had on our books. WE HAVE LAWS ALREADY, ENFORCE THEM! GRRRR….Or hell, if I’m going to watch congressional porn with all the backside action of you all bending over, can we at least make them look better??????? WTF? ( sorry, I’m just sick of all this mess, we have been sold out by all of these slimy politicians)

  84. Alleged Comment says

    What’s wrong with bringing white Europeans to our soil? Why is it always blackie and brownie?

  85. Mi espada says

    We may in some ways be a nation made of immigrants to some extent. That does not mean we allow ourselves to be overrun by third world criminals and welfare seekers.

  86. pattonknew says

    lets get to it :

    some people have concluded wrongly that there’s some logic behind putting the cart before the horse in the way we battle back against an over bearing, over reaching government……….

    that intellectually words like collectivism, class, class warfare, statists, fedralism and anti- federalism, centralized government, dictatorships, states rights and many others are just popular catch phrases that somehow have no meaning and that even if they weren’t the same- identical logic could never be used to combat their own but – let me clarify in no misunderstood terms that there couldn’t be a more politically uneducated or ignorant statement.

    this administration are two sides to the same socialist agenda and the administration needs immigrants only for their votes to sabotage the majority (conservatives, anti-federalists, tea party, libertarians etc. both in terms of the elections and the economy, jobs while suggesting compassion, equality and intolerance even racism in various formats as justification for illegal immigration that they want to make legal with psychological warfare… that then facilitates legislative action.

    first let me suggest that the establishments (republican progressives and liberals) only real point of view is that when society collectively doesn’t support a two party system that it should come as no surprise when you end up with a third – and that this third party system is factually, a one party system…..and that system is emphatically and undeniably, national socialism.

    even in these few words, though it is only one in a great number of realities; its is beyond question how the administration can and does, use your own interests and thus your same political system against you for their own advantage.

    the simple reality is that intellectually the administration doesn’t want you and especially society to understand history and social class warfare- this is why they spend most of their time trying to rewrite history while criticizing the founders all the way up to modern conservative leaders like reagan and others as antiques or historical relics while we watch them embrace the historical socialist and marxist efforts of the distant past….as if they weren’t relics and are extremely or somehow more relative to the 21st century than the facts of the repeated historical economic failure, greed of dictators for complete and systematic political control..

    much of society cant grasp the concept of the layers that politically affect single issues while inversion of a single issue has layered effects on both a national and international arena – so let me clarify the difference being between the history of those who supported and defended peace and liberty( anti federalist or limited government) and those who used the concepts of peace, liberty and/or justice and equality to actually destroy it. ( liberals, federalists, bigger/centralized government, statists, socialists …etc..etc )

    the reality is replacing the intellect and critical thought necessary to defend this country with moral indignation alone has ended the exact same way in every nation on this planet – stuck under a dictatorship with state sponsored religious rights as long as it didnt oppose torture, apathy and the political state( the dictatorship ) and or police state.

    it factually only works (-ed) in the u.s. because of the constitution, the intellect and critical thought necessary to defend it and the political representation and will to do so

    this then intellectually is putting the horse before the cart because rights are not inherent they are protected ( in our case by the constitution of a republic but inverted why socialists now reject democracy collectively ) so that it becomes clear why in a republic or even democracy; the federal government should have no or a little authority as possible, beyond the consent of the governed.

    these ideas of supporting this socialist/ progressive/administration in any aspect wether the war, national security or foreign policy is inexorably hypocritical and thus self defeating nationally while socialist and despotic collectively. ( on both national and international arenas )………. having said that we oppose immigration only as against societies interests and the ideology of progressive/liberal national socialism and we will oppose it adamantly, factually…. while inverted (conservative ) as a system that supports society collectively rather than a dictatorship; through means of limited government… america is a melting pot and openly welcomes the great many that have helped make this country great.

  87. Timothy Toroian says

    Our problem in that Spanish speaking people consider themselves something special; they call themselves La Raza, The Race. Mexicans are still pissed about the Mexican-American war and even the Gadston Purchase. Once WE stop pretending they are special we can re-develope or reimpose our present immigration rules/laws. The liberal insistence on importing uneducated cheap labor that will become dependent upon the government for everyday existence does not permit rational thought. They don’t permit the rational thought by branding opponents racist or phobic. We need to remind people like Hilary and the rest of that ilk that they are Americans, citizens of the United States, and should our interest at heart. Also need to remind such that the Presidential oath is to defend the CONSTITUTION, as does the oaths of most federal elected and appointed offices and positions. Let us tell them so in every upcoming election for the next 10-20 years!!!!

  88. jim marcum says

    The Republicans are just like the Democrats. If their mouths are moving, they are lying.

  89. Tracy Jones says

    I couldn’t agree more with Mynickelsworth if I had said it myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  90. Joseph C Moore USN Ret says

    I haven’t read the article since the title “Republicans turning against legal immigration” put me off. I beg to differ, that these are not “Republicans”, but RINO’s, i.e. “fake republicans”. Why are these a***s not worrying about the ILLEGAL so-called “immigration”? THERE is the problem that the fake republicans are letting slide.

  91. leewacker says

    Shutting down immigration on ALL levels forever would be one of the best ideas this country has ever had! Also, make sure the illegals who are here are deported with NO delays, NO court hearings, NO anchor babies, NOTHING but their departures!
    In the beginning of the country, it wasn’t the “huddled masses” whom the Founding Fathers wanted–it was the wealthy, self-reliant entrepreneur who could actually help build the new nation. The ghastly hordes of the “huddled masses” have only served to degrade the American people, and should Never have been allowed to happen!
    Besides, face it! It is high time the American people had their country to themselves–NO FOREIGNERS FOREVER!

  92. KatRob says

    The only people that should be allowed into this country are Europeans. The commies were so intent on destroying the European culture this country was founded on, that for every European that was let in, we got five Somalians who have never even seen a toilet. This country has become a Crap Stew, not what the Founding Fathers intended. The Balkans failed with two cultures, we’ve got over 200. The multicultural experiment is a failure, time to send the Third World freeloaders home.

  93. daledor says

    The RNC keeps wanting my money. I don’t support evil. I supported RNC most of my life but I have elected good Dems in the past. The Dem party is the party of Socialism and New World Order. The Boneheads and RINO’s need to get kicked out of RNC leadership if they keep on with their traitorous actions, acting like socialist Dems and lap dogs for Obama. When the RNC gets its leadership to quit fighting citizens that love the Constitution, God, and support moral values then I will help them as I can financially.

    I hope that this is not just a bone thrown out after traitorously endorsing illegal immigration and sponsoring terrorists like ISIS to cross our borders along with their Dem brethren. Time will tell if leadership is changing – be very cautious, a bone is a small part of the whole – if the meat is in the wrong place and a bone in the right place — raise HAVOC with them! If they spend most of their time agreeing with Obama and Dems communists and attack those who love America —– raist HAVOC! ——— IT IS ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ not ‘them the government’.

  94. Becky says

    Shut down immigration. Period. ALL of it. Make every LEGAL immigrant swear an oath to support OUR AMERICAN values. If they do not DEPORT them. Period. That gets rid of illegal mehicans AND muslimes. No immigration for 50 YEARS. At least. Clean them out of America.

  95. QuisPercusit says

    The nation as a whole is more important than any single group, cause, campaign contributor, financial institution, political party, labor union, perversion or special interest group. Got it? Don’t ever try to marginalize, redefine or denigrate it. Get right or be gone.

  96. mike bartos says

    The first thing that is needed is an impeachment. Then start moving in the right direction

  97. Len Tippett says

    You sound like a wacko who enjoys being deceived and lied too. Unfortunately you are not alone in your naivety. There are many like you who are not mentally capable of figuring out what is happening to you and America.

  98. LANI says

    There r enough here already. Close the damn borders! Americans 1st!

  99. Nancy says

    The wheel will turn. I am sickened by all these illegals and Muslims invading our country. We need a strong leader like Scott who is not afraid to take action. Strip them of their benefits, food stamps, housing, etc. and watch them flee like rats from a sinking ship. BUT, we must also put tremendous pressure on all the American employers who enable illegals to make a living in this country. They are also the enemy.

    1. edward martis says

      I agree with you 101%—–But so what ? NOTHING is going to change for the next 20 months………What ever repub. gets into the white house had better do something drastic to stop all this non-stop bull—-t ; otherwise the USA will become a third world nation and i’ll have to use my brand new Canadian Passport——If God forbid; hilly gets in you can kiss the united states of America good-bye forever……..I have my eye on some property in Sooke, B.C., Canada ; about 35 miles northwest of Seattle–(on Canada’s coast)—–absolutely beautiful…..It is almost time to get off the RMS Titanic…………..

  100. Nancy says

    Last night on Fox O’Reilly had a Pew Poll that said most Americans want to give a pathway to citizenship to these invaders! They must not be talking to the same people I talk to. Hildebeast and hubby started all this immigration mess. It was under their watch that these people begin pouring in and I remember being very troubled then. Why does O’Reilly think people put the Repubs in the Senate and Congress? To fix this immigration mess and Obamacare. But you are right, for the next 20 months we will need to pay defense and block O at every term. Too bad both leaders in Congress have such deflated balls-that’s the real Deflategate.

  101. ward says

    Amazing that congress cannot get the definition of “illegal aliens” through their thick skulls & even too much legal entry is destroying the U.S. internally … ! bo’s illegal foreigners & especially his use of the muslims as PAWNS TO CREATE HIS DICTATORSHIP & APPARENTLY the U.S. CONGRESS IS NOW BOUGHT OFF TO SUPPORT bo’s EVERY WHIM BY NOT STOPPING HIS E.O.’s that prove his wannabe dictator goals that have all the stench of treason & violation of his POTUS sworn oath … !

  102. Linda Heiser Bechler says

    Shut the border down and turn them around there. No pampering if they get their foot on our soil. Then start deporting all of them. Anchor babies can go home with them. IF they return when they are of age, no welfare benefits for 5 years and no relatives allowed (that would really slow them down). Stiff fines for employers and immediate deportation (with no attorney B/S) from the job site. Cut legal immigration way back and give our techies a chance. How is that for a start!

  103. George Cahonna says

    A little late turning off the faucet aren’t we? The House is already flooded….. Friggen Idiots!

  104. Anthony Guastella says

    I commend both Senators. This is exactly what needs to be done right this very day! No immigration at all and a moratorium for a minimum of 5 years. We are not self supporting our own citizens at this juncture and time, we do not have the funds, the infrastructure or the means to handle one more person. Let them go to the countries that always scream about the US allowing these illegal parasites into our country. Mexico, Guatemala,. El Salvador, Argentina, Columbia, Mideast, etc. How about Russia or China. They are very accommodating and friendly. We are the worlds largest debtor nation, does that tell anyone anything or is a vast majority of our citizens that naive, blind and prejudiced to not realize the ramifications staring us right in our very faces. These aforementioned countries have no respect for us nor are they our friends. They have, and do constantly use and abuse this great nations beneficence and patience. And if we add to the mix, the extreme problem of terrorists who are emboldened by a Communist, Muslim sympathizer in the Executive branch, it is pure unadulterated madness not to impose an immediate moratorium of any further immigration.

  105. Walter Flatt says

    WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO KILL US?///

  106. Walter Flatt says

    CLINTONS,

    COULD THIS BE WHY THEY WANT A OPEN BORDER?

    IS HILLIARY ON DOPE? LISTEN TO ALL AND YOU DECIDE IF YOU STILL WANT HER.

    I CANNOT SEE HOW ANY CHRISTIAN OR ANY PERSON THAT LOVES THIS COUNTRY COULD VOTE FOR THIS.

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