Ryan: GOP Goal is Not Universal Health Insurance


In an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, House Speaker Paul Ryan tried to wrangle control of the Obamacare repeal-and-replace messaging with a clarification on one of the left’s most persistent criticisms. Instead of trying to argue that more Americans will be covered by the American Health Care Act, Ryan explained that the GOP’s goal was not to compete with Obamacare in terms of how many people have health insurance.

Asked how many people would lose their insurance coverage under the new law, Ryan said, “I can’t answer that question. It’s up to people.”

Ryan explained that the question was not relevant to the Republican strategy.

“Here’s the premise of your question: Are you going to stop mandating people buy health insurance?” Ryan said. “People are going to do what they want to do with their lives because we believe in individual freedom in this country.”

Ryan said that any Democrats who pointed to analyses from S&P Global or the Congressional Budget Office were missing the point of what Republicans were trying to do. Because while those reports would inevitably prove that less people would have health insurance under the GOP plan, they would not prove that the AHCA had “stolen” insurance coverage from those people.

“It’s not our job to make people do something that they don’t want to do,” Ryan said. “It is our job to have a system where people can get universal access to affordable coverage if they choose to do so or not. That’s what we’re going to be accomplishing.

“The one thing I’m certain will happen is CBO will say, ‘Well, gosh, not as many people will get coverage.’ You know why? Because this isn’t a government mandate,” Ryan continued.

This is a message that Ryan and Republicans need to hammer over and over again. There are legitimate reasons to criticize this bill, but “this many Americans will lose health insurance coverage” is not necessarily one of them. Republicans aren’t ripping anyone’s insurance away; they are returning choice to the American public. Of course you’re going to have fewer people insured if the government isn’t penalizing you for going without!

There are millions of people right now buying health insurance they don’t want or need. It’s no point in Obamacare’s favor if those people decide to drop their coverage once the individual mandate is repealed. In fact, it just goes to show how many people were coerced into getting something they didn’t want.

  1. MAHB001 says

    Repeal and Replace is a false narrative. We should never have let left sell anyone on the “you must replace before you repeal” lies.

    Does a Dr. determine what he is replacing cancer with before he removes the cancer?

    Build the wall first.

    Repeal first.

    1. Patriot47 says

      I’m primarily interested in the repeal, AS PROMISED. Enough from the lying RINOs.

      1. cristoiglesia says

        We have a RINO as POTUS or have you not noticed because you are still under the Trump ether.

        1. MAHB001 says

          Trump is no elite.

          Elite Republicans = Elite Democrats = Elite MEDIA = Communists.

          Trump is no communist or an elite. Didn’t you hear his inauguration speech, putting the elites on notice, and tell the people that he was giving the Government back to the people.

          Na… I suppose you didn’t.

          1. AKLady says

            Trump = idiot Republicans = ignorant Republicans = selfish Republicans,
            The Government has never been taken away from the people.

          2. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Crooked Hillary supporter’s =ignorance= low energy= losers

            REAL AMERICA WON !!!!!!!!!!!!! How does it feel loser! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01a1da745fdc97ed63d8b921b55e7fc6b68f60e4cdfa521d97a44e431f92a437.jpg

          3. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            We the PEOPLE want a Investigation into OBAMA WIRE TAPPING PRESIDENT TRUMP DURING THE ELECTIONN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            We the People want this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          4. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          5. SD of AZ says

            You really do not understand the lack of transparency issue with the BO administration, do you? Figures you would support this type. But who cares let the special prosecutor dig into all of it. Then when it is over and you have lost again, you will still want a prosecutor to investigate the prosecutor. Oh well, you asked for it!

          6. AntiGOP says

            I made a copy of your post…
            We will see…won’t we…

          7. JMICHAEL270 says

            Also Benghazi, (disclosed operation) Extortion 17, Uranium One, unmarked cash to Iran as well as the nuclear proliferation deal….. The list is soooo long

          8. SD of AZ says

            Throw in Holder’s gun fiasco too.

          9. red110306 says

            You the cry babies need to get over it. Your sorry candidate lost, ours won. It is that simple. We want a “special Prosecutor” as well. But for a different reason.
            We want the scum bags Clinton, Obama, Lynch, Holder and Kerry investigated for all of the corrupt things they have done and are continuing to do in an effort to undermine the government of the United States!
            Try that on for size…. LOSER!

          10. AntiGOP says

            Your the ones that aren’t over it…yo boy is still campaigning…

            And Oh…Lying his ass off.

            Did you say something!!!


          11. red110306 says

            Oh cont-rare Piss-Ant. We are just beginning to enjoy what will be an 8 year period of delight in watching you leftist, communist, socialist pigs squeal with agony! Your tears are my strength. So cry for me PIGGY, cry for me!

          12. red110306 says

            There is your Daddy again!

          13. AntiGOP says

            Does red also stand for REDNECK

          14. red110306 says

            I was born and bred in the city loser. But I would be willing to bet you don’t have a job, you sneaked across the border, you are on public assistance, and most likely living with your mommy and daddy. Who are probably also here illegally! You and your kind are scum and Trump is the scum cleaner! Enjoy the next 8 years in fear loser!

            President Trump. I could type that all day long!

          15. AntiGOP says

            You were born in a test tube experiment that failed…read your post…proof.

            And just because you were born in the city doesn’t mean you can’t be a redneck…redneck.!

            Obviously the definition of redneck eludes you.!

            Now go white wash your neck.

          16. red110306 says

            OK BOY! You surely must be a BOY. You use 5th grader intellect comments. What a waste of space you are. Go back to your Daddy and tell him that the big bad man on line called you what you are. A BOY!

          17. AntiGOP says

            Lets see…you are about 21-22, drink a lot, probably a crack head, never went to collage and probably don’t even have a GED.
            You make no more then $8-9 and your foster parents are glad your gone.
            You don’t have a girlfriend because their not dumb enough to stay with you an alcoholic abuser.
            You can’t get a White Collar job because you can’t tie a tie.

            And your only accomplishment in life was to destroy something of somebody else’s.

            How did I do…

          18. SD of AZ says

            Just call us deplorables and we will call you the loser whiner anti anything. I love it when the losers want special prosecutors, you just do not understand you request has consequences for your dear dem wit dem leaders. Oh well, have it your way, I am okay with a special prosecutor and the investigations, multiple ones!

          19. AntiGOP says

            Just call us deplorables and we will call you the loser whiner anti anything.

            Your not even in that group…that would be an insult to deplorable’s

          20. red110306 says

            Described your daddy to a tee! Good job!
            But on another note: I am 66, own my own business, don’t drink alcohol, never did drugs. You, on the other hand, are most likely all of the things you described above. What a douche bag you are!

          21. AKLady says

            Au contraire mon am.
            If you are going to fake the French, at least look it up and get it correct. You have an Internet connection. There is nothing enjoyable from watching a right-winger publish American ignorance,.

          22. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            REAL AMERICA Defeated Liberalism and the Democrackhead party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            We WON!!!!!!!!!!!


          23. SD of AZ says

            Actually I have no problem with special prosecutors for all of this including the wire tapping and the Russia stuff. Sic em Trump!

          24. AntiGOP says

            You obviously…like so many here…don’t really understand what is going on with wire tapping.

            One of two things will happen and only two things.

            1. Fully retract
            2. Risk Impeachment

            AND I TO have no problem with special prosecutors for all of this including the wire tapping and the Russia stuff.

          25. SD of AZ says

            Now calling us idiots, the gloves are off Ak arkansas or what ever idiot region you hail from. Dem wit dem is an apt description of you and your boring whining rhetoric. Deplorables do not care about your whining whatsoever and in case you have not noticed, the conservatives kicked your asses and we will continue to do so. Have you even looked at the fools running your show? Embarassing!

          26. AntiGOP says

            MAHB001 = FUCKING ASSHOLE

          27. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          28. AntiGOP says

            You’re such a dumbass you destroy your own website…

            It’s all you know how to do…

          29. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          30. AntiGOP says

            That’s what all woman look like when they meat GODBlessRealAmerica!

          31. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          32. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          33. SD of AZ says

            Pocohontis remake. Love it!

          34. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          35. SD of AZ says

            And she is connected to Soros like BO.

          36. AntiGOP says

            You lose…

          37. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          38. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Who you calling a little punk little man I lol at you in your Liberal racist thug face and you will do nothing you coward!!!!!! YOU ARE A MORON! POS!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06a6a13be4fd68d6a53387443cfb842c1a574d9c8753e3a7dd421237b4029d6d.jpg

          39. SD of AZ says

            Is there really a point here. You could focus on the chinese or the other countries like Germany for some new material. I hope Putin is not totally thinking the US is full of anti russian libtards since they must be seeing all of the media and crap like yours on the internet. Libtards are so driven to be moronic.

          40. AntiGOP says

            You forgot to add…

            Bla Bla Bla

            So Pathetic you people are…

          41. SD of AZ says

            In what reality antianything. Looks to me like you got a fitting reply.

          42. AntiGOP says

            Whatever you say Suzie…were you up all night working??


          43. SD of AZ says

            Antianything, you are an Fking Ahole yourself! Dem wit dems after all the whining and bitching if it does not end in them getting what they want resort to violence or this. Proven so time and again!

          44. cristoiglesia says

            I stopped paying attention to liberal leftists decades ago. If you want to be lied to it is a free country. BTW, Trump is now the king of the “elites”.

          45. MAHB001 says

            Did you listen to his acceptance speech?
            Did you listen to inauguration speech?
            Which action since Trump has taken office makes you come to that conclusion?

            I fear your heart is full of hatred, which clouds your judgements.

          46. cristoiglesia says

            I have not listened to any of his speeches nor do I want to do so.

            The fact that Trump received 312 million dollars in loan forgiveness from George Soros saving Trump from personal bankruptcy in Chicago and then quid pro quo of appointing almost all of his cabinet with former Soros executives.

            I have no hatred for anyone and I am just a practical person who researches before coming to conclusions. I knew of Trump as a lifelong far left liberal Democrat ideologue and was dubious of his sudden ideological change. His close friendships with the Soros’ and the Clinton’s made me dubious that he had actually done a 180 degree change and became a conservative. From my research I saw no evidence of such a change. I can find no evidence that Trump has changed his ideology and as a result I concluded that he is still the same far left lifetime liberal Democrat ideologue he has always been. He ran for POTUS simply to make it certain that there would be a leftist as POTUS since there was no conservative Republican running. He is a Trojan Horse candidate whose goal is to destroy the Republican Party, Conservatism and America from the inside. This election is proof that the dumbing down of America is complete by the left. One would think that after Obama a leftist would have no chance of being POTUS but Americans continue to do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. That is truly insanity. We need to elect a conservative Republican for true change.

            I have no idea what makes you think I have hatred for anyone. I do not but I do hate the deceit of the Clinton’s, Trump’s and Soros’ who have again captured the White House by deceit and subterfuge. God help America

          47. MAHB001 says

            Hatred has blocked your reasoning. Just read your words on Trump.

            You are a victim of ideological subversion.

            Until Trump strays from his current path with ACTIONS, your fears are not founded. If Trump does change his path, I will join you in your hatred. Until there is that EVIDENCE, you falsely accuse.

            The Republican Party is full of Elites that have destroyed themselves. Very few Good Republicans are left, and what I mean by that is people working FOR the people, not for themselves.

            The evidence of Trumps change is in the speeches which you REFUSE to listen to. Find a transcript of those speeches and read them, do not listen to them in Trumps voice, and you might be able to see what I am talking about.

          48. cristoiglesia says

            I have no desire to hear a far left liberal Democrat ideologue and puppet for George Soros speak. Let me tell you something that you should heed in your life…it is not the words of a person that illustrates whom they are but their actions. Let us see if he starts governing from the right or the left. If he has indeed abandoned the leftist ideology he has always held, I will join you but because of his leftist past, I will have to see actions rather than words to give him any trust. I have never known of a leopard to change their spots and I will be pleasantly surprised if Trump changes his lifetime ideology now. Why would he, he has reached his goal and can now embrace his true self instead of the caricature of the right that really does not match his historical ideology or enhance the chance of his creating the leftist utopia he desires..

          49. MAHB001 says

            And that is where we differ. Those speeches you refuse to hear, I see as words, warnings and an action. You will have to read them to figure out why I say that.

            Consider this clip. I saw the entire speech, it was not a joke, he was very open and honest when he said what he said, and the laughter is that of people trying to lighten up a very somber admission.

            People change. Accept the change. But verify.


          50. cristoiglesia says

            Talk is cheap…actions speak volumes. I am weary of leftists like Trump as POTUS. I have come to the realization that I will never see another conservative Republican in the executive office again. Leftists like Trump say one thing and do the opposite. I have lived too long and seen too much to start trusting these leftist charlatans now.

          51. MAHB001 says

            TRUMPS actions have spoken volumes already. It is you who can not see them, as they go against your ideology. Watch the video again.

          52. cristoiglesia says

            As a lifetime far right Republican his actions certainly do go against my ideology. Do yourself a favor and do some research on Trumps entire past as a far left liberal Democrat ideologue.

          53. MAHB001 says

            I am not buying it…

          54. cristoiglesia says

            I am not asking you to suddenly do some research and then become a conservative Republican. I am just asking you to verify one way or the other if Trump is being deceptive or honest. There is no reason for you to remain intentionally deceived. But, as an American you still have that right but with Trump rights will go away for his iron fisted leftist desires.

          55. MAHB001 says

            I am asking you to do the same. It seems some are so filled with hate and distrust that looking at Trump with an open mind is impossible.

            You are not the only person I know that can not see any good in Trump. I just get a little frustrated being told that because I do not see what you see I am not a republican.

            I have looked at the data with an open mind. I just did not come to your conclusion. I am cautiously optimistic, but also wary of Trump and the corruption he is swimming in.

            This is what I can tell you. Those that support and believe in Trump are not as stupid or brainwashed as those that follow 0bama. If Trump actually sways off course, we will be all over him like stink on sheait. You will not find those that supporting Trump ignoring a Trump lie or covering up for Trump. Not at all like the lemmings that worship 0bama.

          56. cristoiglesia says

            I am a lifetime conservative Republican and have been conditioned by the past experiences with far left liberal Democrat ideologues that make me very wary. They have no kinship with the truth. I do not hate leftist like Trump but simply have no reason from history to trust them.

            Last time I checked Obama is no longer POTUS, thank God. But he has been replaced with someone even worse to the left than he which is Donald Trump. Obama is irrelevant to the conversation. Trump is the creator of the corruption as was the other leftist we just replaced Obama. The reaction to Trump so far belies your prediction. He is being allowed to be outrageously to the left without a peep from conservatives but instead they tend to support him even more. I see the Trump supporters being even worse that the Obama supporters in tolerating lies and deceptions.
            With Obama followers the lemmings were looking over the abyss into the sea but with Obama supporters they are blindly and gleefully jumping to their deaths. By death Trump is putting the final nail in the coffin of conservatism.

            Just notice how voraciously the Trump supporters are attacking conservative Republicans for not supporting their far left liberal Democrat king, Trump. I am waiting for that hatred of conservatives to go from verbal assaults against conservatives to physical attacks. All Trump need do to get his brain numbed followers to attack conservatives physically is say the words and they will turn into suicidal lemmings against the political right.

          57. MAHB001 says

            As you may know I believe that both political parties have been taken over by big government communists that I call elites. These elites do not serve the people, they serve only themselves and the constant quest for more power and control of the people….

            While the electorate is divided by ideology the elites are not. The elites lie to both Republicans and Democrats (people).

            Trumps speeches and actions so far have put the elites on notice. I at this point in time do not think Trump is an elite. I see no belying going on by Trump. On this point, I think you are wrong.

            I did appalled by how poorly conservatives treated other conservatives. I was one of the conservatives that fought and warned against Trump. I believe the 70+ years of attacks on our morals by liberal progressives has taken its toll.

            My apologies for what I know you went through, but I don’t think those ill mannered conservatives are liberal progressives… Just confused people who can trust no one.

          58. cristoiglesia says

            Why listen to his speeches since his whole candidacy is a lie and his deceit knows no moral bounds.

          59. MAHB001 says

            People change, some good, some bad….

            You judge and convict without proof, that is what I have come to expect from liberals, it is hard to accept from such an staunch conservative.

          60. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, but in this case Trump kept moving further to the left and Conservative Republicans ignored it. It was as if they were mesmerized by this lifetime leftist Svengali Trump. I spent months researching Trump and there was absolutely no evidence that Trump had changed ideologically at all except to become increasingly entrenched in his leftist views. Trump remains today the same far left liberal Democrat ideologue that he has been for decades. I wish there were change but there is no evidence of him embracing any conservative values or ideology. He will always be a eastern liberal Democrat. The sad thing is that he deceived so many with his deceit and in my view this man is actually evil in doing what he has done to those on the right like myself even though he was never able to deceive me because I did my research and found no evidence of him becoming a conservative or a Republican. America has done it gain and elected a far left liberal Democrat ideologue and expect the results to be different from the past. They will not be and that is the promise of the Trump Presidency that you can take to the bank.

          61. cristoiglesia says

            Trump’s lifetime is “proof” of his leftist views. The only person I have seen that truly went from being a leftist liberal to a conservative is Ronald Reagan. He was a conservative for decades before running for POTUS. Trump has no conservative or Republican history before running for POTUS. Trump is the iconic Trojan Horse and has deceived America. This election cannot have a good result with this pretender and chief as POTUS.

          62. cristoiglesia says

            Trump is one of the elites and is their candidate. His entire history is of being a far left liberal Democrat ideologue. He has no conservative history. I am a conservative lifetime Republican who has never and will never vote for a leftist like Trump.

          63. MAHB001 says

            So you say.

          64. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed and unfortunately 100% of the evidence supports me.

          65. MAHB001 says

            True the 100% you have looked at supports you. The stuff you downright rejected without reading or listening to is what supports me..

            Yet your hatred allows you, no forces you, to make decisions with only half the information.

          66. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense, I have done countless hours of research on this far left liberal lifetime Democrat and you have apparently done none. Let me ask you this…are you a leftist like Trump or a conservative like myself. If you are a conservative then why do you support a lifetime far left Democrat with no conservative credentials or history?

          67. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense, I am a voracious researcher which is a habit I have developed as a history professor. My information has to be verifiable where your information must titillate your emotion. In the case of Trump his actions belie his words. His history confirms his deceit.

          68. MAHB001 says

            You have already admitted to NOT watching or READING any of Trumps speeches while he is in office.

            It seems your voraciousness stopped a while back… And as all data ages, it becomes less relevant.

          69. cristoiglesia says

            Trump’s words are vacuous and simply a smoke screen to redirect people from his actions. I watch carefully what he does and ignore what he says which is always nonsense and attempts at deceit.

          70. MAHB001 says

            Again, your hatred of Trump clouds things for you. Trumps ACTIONS have been true to every word so far.

          71. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense, I feel sorry for all the people he has duped. You seem like a good person who does not deserve the deceit of this charlatan and Svengali Trump.

          72. MAHB001 says

            By your own admission, you have stopped your research and the learning has now been closed.

            Stop the hate, spread the love.

          73. cristoiglesia says

            How did you get that idea? Knowledge replaces hatred. Hatred is an emotional response that can be irrational. But, knowledge gives one peace and forms their convictions. Knowledge is rational evidence that destroys emotion based opinions, one becomes a pragmatist instead rather than letting emotion shape their opinions.

          74. MAHB001 says

            I read and comprehended your posts… That is how I got that idea. Go back and read your own explanations of why you will not read or listen to Trumps acceptance or inauguration speeches. Those posts reveal your hatred.

            One can learn a lot from History, but so many things in life are not predicted by history. You seem to be stuck in Trumps past. I will give you, that his past is an excellent warning, but it is NOT set in stone… To DATE, he has not gone against his word.

            “If you think you can, or you think you can’t, you are absolutely right.”
            —– Henry Ford

            In the same way, a glass is half full for some, half empty for others… Who is right? You are.

          75. MAHB001 says

            You are desperate, and obviously mislead…

          76. mrpoohead says

            Still no refuting then – ha, ha, ha! Trump – biggest buffoon so far and achieved in a very short time. Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            “Desperate” – amused more like.
            Mislead – well not by conspiracy theorists, hyperbole and BS. Ha, ha, ha!!!!!

          77. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, it is very difficult to argue with reality. Just because Trump ran on the Republican ticket does not mean that he is a conservative or a Republican. In his lifetime he has never been either. Do you not think that it is strange that he ran against his best friends wife?

          78. MAHB001 says

            So you say…

          79. cristoiglesia says

            No, so his history says. One cannot argue with history.

          80. MAHB001 says

            I believe people have choices, We shall be judged by the choices we make…And only after we are done making choices shall our lives be called history.

          81. cristoiglesia says

            You are very humorous if you really think that it is necessary to redefine “history” to support your leftist prejudice. Trump has been making history for 70 years and his leftist past is not different from his present.

          82. MAHB001 says

            I think you are so far off the edge to the right that you might just be a plant.

            Just saying…. DNC plants operatives everywhere to disrupt.

          83. cristoiglesia says

            What I say is not nearly as revealing as his own words and actions. Take some time and research his leftist past which is prolific. Search for some examples of his conservative views and you will be wanting.

        2. worn out 123 says

          Really? Choice is not better than government enforced health insurance? That’s a government mandate with penalty. That’s the AHCA.
          Hate all you want. Means nothing to me. Destroy the Affordable Care Act! Now, that’s a worthy goal.

          1. AKLady says

            You know, Republicans are really short-sighted and very ignorant when it comes to money.

            The #1 cause of bankruptcy is medical bills.
            That is why America has the world’s most expensive health care.
            America is the only modern, industrialized country that lets people die — simply because they cannot afford to buy health care.

            Once someone becomes disabled, you pay for their food, clothing and shelter. I have news for you — health care would have been a lot less expensive.

          2. James Richard Holt says

            Four years ago my brother in law and his wife my youngest sister lost their business. She failed to pay for their health care insurance they had through their business and lost their health care coverage. They ran naked that is the term for going without adequate insurance of one type or another. He had been a football player in college but got hurt and then decided the only reason for being in college was to play ball if he couldn’t play ball he’d rather get out in the real world and start making his way earning his own income. All he could do was fast food so thats were he started my sister had all but completed a degree in nursing and quit school then she had all but completed a degree in accounting and again quit. She is a little on the flighty side. She met Keith they got married and he’d become the manager of several pizza stores. They did well so he bought his own franchise and over ten years fell on his face. Out of work he took training to become a truck driver out on the road for about nine months. He had become a very heavy smoker a long time ago sometimes he went through four or five packs a day. So my sister could fit in with his friends she started smoking as well. She is well and truly hooked now. Anyway he was out on the road and started coughing up blood. Lots of blood as it turned out. So he called my sister to come and get him and well he had developed small cell cancer a death sentence at the time live expectancy from diagnosis to death was about six months. The reason for this is its almost never discovered until it is already category 4. There is no tumor as such the cancer cells are widely disbursed so surgery is out to treat with radiation you’d have to use enough radiation to cook the patient and chemotherapy is almost never successful and even if it is you have to get all the cells but they learn how to get rid of the chemo before it kills the cells. Additionally the theory is you are relying on the relatively higher metabolic rate of cancer cells over normal tissue to kill the cancer before you kill the patient. With a widely disbursed cancer you cannot get a therapeutic level that will kill the cancer cells without having to use a very large nearly fatal dose chemotherapy. When chemo does work in a limited way when the chemo stops working the cancer comes back with a vengeance. Keith as I said had no medical insurance and he had a devastating disease that no one survives a rare form at that and they applied for various assistance programs and although they couldn’t even begin to pay any of the bills all the bills were paid and he was entered into several trials. He was 46 when he died nineteen months after diagnosis. His son is a senior in college majoring in Biomechanical Engineering. He has had some scholarship help and some loans and the family has given some limited help and he has also worked so he could have some pocket money. He is now looking at Masters Programs and threatening to go on to a PhD. More power to him. My sister is now 100% disabled she was born with congenital variation in her back and has lived her entire live with a moderate level of pain from her back. Still she was a star basketball player in high school and she could outrun any 99 boys her age. both in sprints and cross country running. Not any more. All four of my siblings and I are diabetic now my son who is 6’6″ and weighs 190 lbs is also diabetic do you think there is a genetic predisposition there? My little sister suffers from depression in addition to her diabetes and her medications are taken care of by SSI and Medicare now. My medical needs are taken care of by the Air Force I was retired because of idiomatic malignant high blood pressure. At 46 I had the first of four heart attacks but medical care was taken care of. My wife had health care insurance until her employer cut her back to part time so they would not have to pay for her insurance. Six weeks after that happened she was diagnosed as having a brain tumor it turned out to a meningioma and they are almost never malignant and unless there is some vascular involvement they are easy to remove with no subsequent problems they still can kill a person I think it was G. H. W. Bush’s Press Secretary who died of a meningioma. We could not pay for her medical bills as we had no healthcare insurance after all those years of paying for health care insurance when she was a full time employee. Just from my family’s travails I don’t believe there are thousands of Americans dying for lack of health care insurance. This November it will have been 19 years since my first heart attack. I suggest there is some combination of programs that can cover anyone and even provide well care to reduce the potential cost of untreated chronic healthcare issues.

          3. AKLady says

            “I suggest there is some combination of programs that can cover anyone and even provide well care to reduce the potential cost of untreated chronic healthcare issues.”

            You would be wrong. With VA benefits you have never had to go without health care. Your ignorance is not fact.

            Over 50,000 Americans die every year because they cannot afford health care. Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance did a study published in the American Journal of Public Health back in 2009. In 2002 Institute of Medicine (IOM) did a study that concluded that 18,000 died a year due to lack of health insurance.

            You have an Internet connection. I suggest you use it to educate yourself.

          4. Gary Pakes says

            Trump and his billionaire cabinet did win. But, America lost, as we are now seeing unfold in front of our eyes.

          5. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Real America won and we Americans won!!!! You lost you liberal morons and haters lost!!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f5ec2a8fb15a75460fe8b21b59cd3f71ba279072441490fb75ad3b342f26f8b.jpg

          6. AntiGOP says

            Your the HATER

          7. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You Moron you the hater every post is hate of Trump we just expose you liberal coward !


          8. AntiGOP says

            You have exposed yourselves for YEARS…

            Your not Americans…

            Your ISIS in AMERICA…

          9. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          10. AntiGOP says

            You and your kind are the farthest thing from REAL AMERICAN

            Your little punks…with no self worth…

          11. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Who you calling a little punk little man I lol at you in your Liberal racist thug face and you will do nothing you coward!!!!!! YOU ARE A MORON! POS https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b11c29155afad13fae759465eb664e35f2ec01518666286b515951388b31ce97.jpg

          12. AntiGOP says

            You….you little punk…
            you will do nothing…whatever you say…

          13. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Who you calling a little punk little man I lol at you in your Liberal racist thug face and you will do nothing you coward!!!!!! YOU ARE A MORON! POS https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc3c8d6320d388e211d127f67db01f5a8c7132e737a4ea34d0809cc3b7f1e46a.jpg

          14. cristoiglesia says

            Your post makes no sense…why would a liberal hate someone who shares their leftist ideology like Trump.

          15. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          16. cristoiglesia says

            No, I am a far right lifetime conservative Republican. IOW’s I am the ideological opposite of you, Obama and Trump.

          17. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You’re a Liberal lifetime Douchebag Liberal Democrackhead moron! Anti America fool!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc3c8d6320d388e211d127f67db01f5a8c7132e737a4ea34d0809cc3b7f1e46a.jpg

          18. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense I am the ideological opposite of Trump and Obama. I have never been a Democrat or a leftist and they have been their whole lives. From your posts attacking conservative Republicans it looks as though you are just like the leftist Democrats Obama and Trump. BTW, since you are so ideologically challenged…Hillary is a Leftist Democrat as well.

          19. cristoiglesia says

            I am ideologically the opposite of Trump and his good friend Obama. I am a far right lifetime Republican and conservative. Your confusion is that we had two far left liberal Democrat running for POTUS. One ran as a Democrat and the other as a Republican which guaranteed that a leftist Democrat would be elected as POTUS. Now, you may be a political neophyte but this has to be the greatest ruse in the political history of America.To Trump, “making America great again” is to turn America sharply and suddenly to the left. He is counting on people like you who are ignorant ideologically and are smitten by celebrity envy. Trump is arguably the furthest left of any POTUS in history by a very wide margin.

          20. cristoiglesia says

            No, I am the exact opposite and a far right lifetime conservative Republican. I have never supported a Democrat like Trump or Hillary.

          21. Liberty's Advocate says

            There are none so blind as she (sic) who will not see. I’ve tried following your posts silently but you are one ignorant, intentionally misinformed POS. Your Socialist mindset is built on greed – wanting something for nothing – and your Liberalism demands that whatever you decide is not for you should be denied to everyone else as well. You are anti-freedom, anti-personal responsibility and anti-self determination.

            Medical bankruptcies? That’s Life! Some get lemons, some get lemonade. I personally KNOW those who’ve had huge medical bills. My WIFE has had one from a 5 day planned hospitalization that turned into 75 days, learning how to breathe again, learning how to walk again and resulting in other significant maladies which are now the source of constant pain she must live with daily. Her bill was $1.3 Million. We HAD insurance to cover most of it. I can’t feel sorry for those who don’t plan ahead, nor should I pay for their mistaken choices – lifestyle OR financial.

            The reason this country has “the world’s most expensive health care” is because we have the WORLD’S BEST HEALTH CARE. We have the most innovative, the highest motivated, the most dedicated, the best educated and well-compensated professionals providing it, We have the best funded, most successful research facilities developing new, innovative treatments all the time … in THIS country.

            “America is the only modern, industrialized country that lets people die — simply because they cannot afford to buy health care.” Horse hockey! Dozens of hospitals have gone or are going bankrupt providing FREE medical care (that translates to time DONATED by Doctors and nurses, and/or paid for by the Hospital out of their bottom line – EVEN for ILLEGAL ALIENS whom people like you claim aren’t receiving care. NO ONE IN NEED is NOT receiving healthcare treatment in this country, unless THEY CHOOSE NOT TO ASK FOR IT.

            You establish some straw man, bogeyman argument to inflict guilt on the general population so that your REAL Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, Fascist. Communist (pick any description – they are ALL just stages in development of the same noxious plant), short-sighted, historically ignorant, agenda-driven solutions can be implemented – EVERYONE of them resulting in more intrusive and larger government, less autonomy, less acceptance of financial and personal responsibility and less freedom for the individual.

            What is truly going bankrupt is the mental capacity and mental health of Liberals like you who have NO NEW IDEAS to put forth that PROMOTE personal responsibility. Why? Because that would make people THINK and eventually they would come to the realization that their FREEDOM TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS – NOT GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR LIVES – is the Natural state of Man and exercising a little creative thinking can ensure their Liberty to do so.

            You, madam, are a FREAKIN’ IDIOT!!!

          22. AKLady says

            America is the only modern, industrialized country that lets people die — simply because they cannot afford to buy health care. Donated care for what … diabetes, hypertension, fatty liver, coronary artery disease, colon cancer. skin cancer, hepatitis, cervical cancer ??? All silent killers. By the time they drive a person to an emergency room, serious — if not fatal — damage has been done.

            Once someone becomes disabled, you pay for their food, clothing and shelter. I have news for you — health care would have been a lot less expensive.

            Apparently, Jesus was a Communist. The Apostles as well. Many of those considered saints also fit that description. Wow, and right wingers claim America is a Christian country …ha. ha. ha. ha …

            Communist? Socialist? You mean like these countries: India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, New Zealand.

            Yes, people have the freedom to be poor and unable to afford medical care, let alone health insurance. Yes, they have the freedom to die.

          23. Liberty's Advocate says

            Enough of your moronic, myopic view of reality. You haven’t got enough answers for ONE topic so you decide to confuse the issue by opening 20 other cans of worms, eh? Including religion? If you had read and understood the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5 and succeeding chapters), had read and understood the Declaration of Independence as well as the philosophical/theological sources leading to the text (which was written to be understood by anyone with a 3rd grade education of the time), read and understood our Constitution as well as the Mayflower Compact, the Northwest Ordinance, the Articles of Confederation and other founding documents – right now you would be choking on those contemptuous lies you just wrote. But, I understand ignorance is bliss.

            The same people who blessed you with the government-run educational system responsible for your deficient education, control the majority of your media news sources. You remember … the same one’s that got the campaign progress of your favorite candidate and the prognostication of the election results ENTIRELY WRONG last year? Believe what you will. Your path leads to slavery.

          24. AKLady says

            You have just published your ignorance for the world to see. You are also an embarrassment to America and everything it stands for.

            CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment.

            Oh, and by the way, one if my ancestors signed the Declaration of Independence.

          25. Liberty's Advocate says

            Fine. Let’s talk about whom it is that is ignorant. I will gladly demonstrate to the “world” how your ignorance of the facts is only exceeded by your lack of understanding.

            Your correct quote above, from amendment 1, U.S. Constitution, reads (adjusted for the improper emphasis YOU applied), “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …”. Judging by the caps you applied, this is the appropriately quoted portion of that amendment, applicable to our discussion. Correct?

            Knowledge is gained by doing more than just reading and quoting words. The founders were masters of the correct usage of words and punctuation, and were especially careful when using them to design a system of government to be willed to their posterity, the purpose of which is to secure their Rights.

            Congress SHALL (a legal term imposing an obligation on the entity to which the law applies, as opposed to ‘may’ which allows for discretionary application of the law) make no law (no legislation or restrictions may be imposed) respecting (“with respect to” the object) an establishment (a noun, used to denote a previously existing or established organization – the object – (clearly used here in reference to the Church of England which is imposed by government as the State favored or established religion of the Mother Country but not limited exclusively to that religious reference) as opposed to THE establishment – used as an adverb – which denotes taking an action) of religion ( of or characterized by faith in dogma or doctrine of a Divine nature, usually involving the worship of a Supreme Being or entity), or prohibiting (or forbidding, denying) the free exercise thereof (the choice whether or whether NOT to worship or engage in other pursuits of a religious nature).

            NO WHERE in the Constitution, especially in the 1st amendment, will you find any reference to the separation of church and state to which you are alluding. That reference was to a phrase used in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists Association, Danbury, Connecticut, written in 1802 long after ratification of the Constitution.

            Further, the principles of freedom and liberty are inseparable from the acceptance of personal responsibility for one’s actions, and the concept of Rights is inseparable from that responsibility as well. No one can claim as a Right any state of being or action which, when exercised, interferes with or infringes upon any existing Rights of any other person. Does that remind you of something from the Sermon on the Mount? The Golden Rule? “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”?

            The first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence also are the beginning iterations of the Natural Law argument, that our Natural Rights are gifts given to each individual member of the Family of Man by the Creator at the moment of their individual creation. They are not conferred by government. Governments are established to SECURE those Rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness … as well as others reserved to the people (9th and 10th amendments).

            The principles “declared” in the Declaration – for which 50,000 American patriots fought, suffered, starved, were imprisoned and/or died or lost their fortunes and property – are the same principles upon which our Constitution was designed and our government was built. Do you need to – are you forced to – accept Christ or religious doctrine of any kind to avail yourself of your Liberties? NO!! But you ARE required to be tolerant of those who do because, in so doing, the Rights and Liberties of EVERYONE are secured from government usurpation or elimination. If your are NOT tolerant of those who hold those beliefs but instead work to deny their protection, YOUR Rights are compromised as well.

            How is this so? Once a government, through the establishment of its Constitution, acknowledges the principle of the existence of a higher power as the source of the Rights of the people (as ours did in 1776 and 1791), it can never later say (deny) that those Rights DO NOT EXIST. Ours is the ONLY nation of ALL the nations of the world EVER to have acknowledged that fact at anytime. Read the LAST paragraphs of both the Declaration AND the Constitution.

            The doubt that this nation was founded on Christian principles exists ONLY in the mind of fools, intentionally uninformed (ignorant) or ethically challenged individuals who have an agenda opposed to freedom. Which one are you?

          26. AKLady says

            The belief that this nation was founded on Christian principles exists ONLY in the mind of fools, intentionally uninformed (ignorant) or ethically challenged individuals who have an agenda opposed to freedom. Which one are you?

            “Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
            ~Founding Father James Madison

            “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
            ~Founding Father James Madison, letter, 1822

            “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
            ~Founding Father James Madison, 1819

            “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. … But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding….” Thomas Jefferson in an April 11, 1823, letter to John Adams

            “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” Treaty if Tripoli, Article 11.

            “[I]n what sense can [America] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or that the people are in any manner compelled to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within our borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions. Nevertheless, we constantly speak of this republic as a Christian nation – in fact, as the leading Christian nation of the world.” Supreme Court Justice David Brewer (1837-1910)

            “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
            ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

            “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
            ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

          27. Liberty's Advocate says

            Apparently you think its necessary to misquote me so that your posts make more sense.

          28. AKLady says

            Our Founding Fathers made their point very cleatly.

          29. Liberty's Advocate says

            … and YOU have made mine. Hell, you can’t even SPELL “clearly”.

          30. AKLady says

            Thank you for bringing the typo to my attention.
            I freely admit to being a bad typist.

          31. Liberty's Advocate says

            Additionally, I hope you can see that denial of Christian principles being a part of our founding – considering they are linked hand-in-glove with freedom philosophically – is to deny the efficacy, the soul of freedom itself. Or do you also have a problem with comparing the efficacy of freedom with the soul?

          32. AKLady says

            Which Christian principals might those be?

            Are you living a life of poverty? Christ clearly said it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.

            Are you executing your children when they misbehave? Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9, and Deuteronomy 21:18-21

            Have you cut off your hands and gouged out your eyes? Matthew 5:29-30, Matthew, 18:9, Mark 9:43, and Mark 9:47

            Do you eat bacon? Leviticus 11:7

            Do you own any slaves? Colossians 3:22, Ephesians 6:5, and 1 Peter 2:18

            Do you wear clothes of mixed material? Deuteronomy 22:11

            Have you ever prayed in public? Matthew 6:5

            Do you hate your family? Luke 14:26

            Have you been baptized for the dead? 1 Corinthians 15:29

            Do you give anything to anyone who asks? Luke 6:30

            When’s the last time you participated in ethnic cleansing? 1 Samuel 15:3

          33. Liberty's Advocate says

            Boy! Can’t get a peep out of you when it comes to the true meaning of the 1st amendment, but give you an opening to be anti-Christian and you’re right there like an over-weight woman on a Twinkie. Q: Is this just Christianity you abhor or do you hate any form of Divinity worship?

            First, it’s “principle”, not “principal”. Code of conduct, not cache of cash or school administrator.

            Second, you’ve mixed a lot of Old and New Testament references here which is like mixing metaphors, and makes as much sense in THIS discussion. Nevertheless, my answers are, “No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No and NO!”

            Bringing this discussion back to center, “Where in any of our founding documents do you find the Christian OR secular examples of YOUR proposed ‘principals’ represented, either in application of concept, amendment to the original text or reference by any of the founders?” You don’t because they aren’t, and you really wouldn’t expect to, would you? So, aside from wanting to pick a fight in a snarky way by attacking a religion as being inadequate to support my premise, aren’t you the least bit curious as to how such religious influences might be found as foundational aspects of our government? If you’re here just to ‘shit on the board’, I’ve got better things to do than converse with someone who assumes they know it all already. But, if you’re here to learn as WELL as to inform …

          34. AKLady says

            Exactly what do you see as thw true meaning of the following words?
            CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

          35. Liberty's Advocate says

            Do you have a problem reading for content? I spent the better part of one response covering that in incredible detail four posts back and have referred to it at least twice since that post in subsequent postings. Awwww, is this a test? Is this your not-so-subtle way of answering my question from the last post?

            Since you brought it up … AGAIN … referring to the famous “wall of separation” between any aspect of government and religion, how do YOU reconcile the IRS granting tax exempt status to churches under 501(c)(3) for non-profits with that “clear” embargo, and what about congress back in the early 50’s passing the Johnson amendment attached to a spending bill that forbids the discussion of politics from the pulpit? That was Lyndon Baines Johnson as a Congressman, by the way. I believe the first five words of the 1st amendment are, “Congress shall make no law …”!!?!!!

          36. AKLady says

            Again, you bend the law to fit your propaganda. The restriction isn’t exclusive to religious institutions.

            The law says all such organizations “are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.” That includes contributions to political campaigns and any form of public statement for or against a candidate or group of candidates.
            Maybe you should attempt to be a bit more truthful?

          37. Liberty's Advocate says

            Truthful? The truth is not MY problem. YOU are attempting to spit hairs. The TRUTH is churches DO fall under the Johnson Amendment because of the 501(c)(3) tax status, which IS THE POINT. It shows duplicity, both in the application of the law vs the 1st amendment protection AGAINST such legislative action … AND in your selective anger against this clear 1st amendment violation of YOUR interpretation of it.

            This also raises an interesting point about the Rev, Jesse Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton – a couple shake-down artists who constantly preach politics while the Liberal bias of media and government turns a deaf ear.

          38. AKLady says

            No, sir, you are splitting hairs.
            Churches are non-profit organizations, period.
            The law applies to all non-profit organizations.
            What you do not seem to understand is that churches are, in fact businesses.
            Churches must obtain business licenses

          39. Liberty's Advocate says

            It appears that it is you who is missing the point, sis, and I may be confused as to which law it is you are referring – the Johnson amendment or the tax code or both? Regardless, it is true – all non-profits are covered under the tax code and the Johnson amendment. But since this is about religious organizations covered under the 1st amendment protection stating “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …”, either an exemption should have been written into the law benefiting churches or IRS tax law (authorized by Congress) should not be permitted to apply to churches. That, madam, is Not splitting hairs. It is an objective assessment of the 1st amendment protection. The significance of the business license ends with the non-profit status of the church. Regulation of church activities ends with “Congress shall make no law … prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE thereof …”.

          40. AKLady says

            No,. it appears you are ignorant of fact and law.
            All non-profit organizations are licensed as businesses.

            Churches are licensed as businesses.
            Churches are non-profit business organizations.

            Yes, churches must apply for and obtain a business license.

            Under the law, they are no different than any other business.
            All non-profit “businesses” are treated similarly under the tax code.

          41. Liberty's Advocate says

            Man! I can’t make my point any more clearly. YOU need to work harder on your understanding and Critical Thinking. I KNOW what law exists. I question its veracity and the reasons are stated above. Think outside the box.

          42. AKLady says

            You need to work header on understanding.

            1. A church is legally a business.
            2. A church is required to have a business license.
            3. All non-profit businesses are covered under the same tax codes.

            Just what “box” am I supposed to think out of?
            Special legislation limited to religious organizations would violate the Constitution.

          43. Liberty's Advocate says

            One more time. I’ll just copy and paste my earlier reply with a minor clarification, since that activity suits you so well: ” Regardless, it is true – all non-profits are covered under the tax code and the Johnson amendment. But since this is about religious organizations covered under the 1st amendment protection stating “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …”, either an exemption should have been written into the law benefiting churches or IRS tax law (authorized by Congress) should not be permitted to apply to churches. That, madam, is Not splitting hairs. It is an objective assessment of the 1st amendment protection. The significance of the business license should end with the non-profit status of the church. Regulation of church activities should end with “Congress shall make no law … prohibiting the FREE EXERCISE thereof …”.

          44. AKLady says

            Is a church a business? Yes or no?
            Exactly what religion does the law establish?

          45. Liberty's Advocate says

            Let’s call this, “Answering AKLAdy’s Seven Snarky Questions”, OK? Since this is not a court of law, and since I don’t need to be led down the primrose path by my nose to some too-visible conclusions, and since stating, re-stating and re-re-stating the same questions is a good indicator that the person ASKING the questions assumes a superior attitude as well as incompetence on the part of the person asked – neither of which is a fact in evidence, and since answers to most of the questions are either obvious or have already been stated in the record, and since the intellectual capabilities of the questioner are as much called into question by the questions asked as are those of the person being questioned, and since it must be assumed that some of the questions are sincere requests for information not in possession of the questioner, and since focusing my attention on answering certain questions the answers to which add clarity to the direction a stream of logic is headed, and since logic is apparently not part of the questioner’s mental makeup, and since further delays will result in MORE edits by the questioner which further complicate the issue and add only to the insulting nature of the questions, I will carefully answer those questions I deem appropriate to the conversation and which both fairness and my awareness dictate will improve communication, even though such answers are tendered at great personal risk to my psyche and ego.

            “Exactly what religion does the law establish?”
            A: Neither law establishes any religion. Establish-ING of religion is NOT the meaning of the establishment clause in the first place. The mere asking of this question demonstrates a lack of comprehension of the issue on the part of the questioner.

            “Exactly how does the law prohibit the “free exercise” of any religion?”
            A: Neither the Johnson Amendment nor the IRS law can be considered individually and exclusive of the other since they act in concert to the detriment of a free and open exercise of religion. The Johnson Amendment, by limiting free speech from the pulpit regarding the subject of politics – the parallels of which to times past add clarity to the application of both doctrine and free thought – is a violation of both the freedom of speech portion of the 1st amendment as well as the free exercise of religion clause.

            The IRS law raises a jurisdictional question: Whether the IRS should have the power over churches to “grant or NOT grant” them a tax exempt status, which is a SPECIAL status affecting “an establishment of religion”. A specific exemption saying the law does NOT apply to churches or religious organizations should be included.

            Politics enter into and affect every aspect of our daily lives, and laws and policies that infringe on religious aspects of our daily lives are forbidden by the 1st amendment. The church pulpit was the community center from which political ideas WERE discussed in colonial times and early in our history as a nation. Such common place practices of free speech were altered BY the IRS AND the Johnson Amendment.

            “Just how does the law regulate church activities?”
            A: Each church is affected individually, but the selective application of federal law with respect to the Civil Rights charlatans I’ve mentioned previously also violates the equal protection clause and is discriminatory on its face. The rest of the answer was stated immediately above.

            “Just what “box” am I supposed to think out of?”
            A: Ending a sentence with a preposition is poor grammar, but I would suggest the box referred to is the one in which your brain is found. Think outside your self-imposed limits to find the answers.

            I am off to work.

          46. AKLady says

            Word salad.
            I suggest you obtain the assistance of a mental health professional.

          47. Liberty's Advocate says

            Considering your humorless, non-sensical bloviating responses, I thought a little levity included with a substantive response to your challenge was both warranted and timely. Apparently you are too intellectually lazy to appreciate it.

          48. AKLady says

            The problem is that you do not think.

          49. Liberty's Advocate says

            On the contrary, we Conservatives DO think. We employ common sense, critical thinking and a clear understanding of the Nature of Man when designing solutions to social problems. it’s Liberals like YOU who are ruled by their emotions and artificiality. Witness the Political Correctness system of garbage you Liberals have attempted to force on society.

            Until you understand and accept facts like these you will be unable to understand the depth of frustration and anger of the majority of people in this country who CAN think, and who finally said enough is enough nonsense.

            The direction America was heading was deeply wrong and obviously NOT in our long term interests, nor in the interests of our progeny who WILL be handed the reins of freedom. My forefathers didn’t fight the Civil War and two world wars to make the world safe for Socialism.

          50. AKLady says

            It is also markedly evident that you have a major reading comprehension problem.

          51. Liberty's Advocate says

            More Leftist bullshit tactics. No ability or content for forming a substantive response, so attack the character of competence of your opponent. No proof needed, just the “seriousness of the charge”. If you weren’t so predictably pathetic you might actually influence a weak minded, unprincipled and uninformed dolt perusing this topic for some light reading.

          52. AKLady says

            Your reputation is not one of competence.
            Your character is not one of honesty.

          53. Liberty's Advocate says

            What in Heaven’s name could you possibly know about ME? You are a lying, bitter, manipulative bitch – and those are just your OBVIOUS qualities. But you ARE A LIBERAL – through and through – your continuing use of lies and character assassination are the proof of the pudding.

            People who know ME will disagree with you vehemently, both from leadership, integrity, intelligence and competence stand points as well as dedication to principle. If you knew half as much as your lies indicate, you’d spell it out. Go ahead, make my day …

          54. AKLady says

            Your posts provide all the evidence needed.
            Your current one is all the evidence needed to support my statement.
            It also provides significant evidence of your language incompetence.

          55. Liberty's Advocate says

            Keep it up. ‘Your posts provide all the evidence needed.’ I sincerely doubt if anyone is interested enough in the shallow, incoherent and inconsistent ramblings of your posts but it would be interesting to see what others consider evidence of fact. Personally, I’ve had enough of your baseless, mindless crap and evidently you have had enough of my challenges. All you had to do was cut it off but instead, like a true coward, you took the assassin’s approach to reconciling differences.

          56. AKLady says

            You are an advocate for hate and bigotry.
            You have no concept to the meaning of liberty, you simply abuse it.

          57. Liberty's Advocate says

            I as an individual, and Conservatives as a class of intelligent, free thinking men and women, far out shadow Liberals for balance and fairness. The standard approach through their Political Correctness of Liberals is to form an opinion, or standard of acceptance, and then demand that EVERYONE adhere to their beliefs under penalty of being ostracized, discredited or worse – kind of like you attempted to do to ME on these posts.

            As far as understanding the concept of Liberty is concerned? Anyone who advocates for the supplanting of Individual Rights by Group Rights, and Socialism for Free Enterprise, and the destruction of the concept of accepting personal responsibility and accountability for one’s actions which is the soul of Freedom, and advocates philosophies being inculcated in our youth like Moral Relativism, Secular Humanism and Values Clarification – ALL OF WHICH ARE LIBERAL PHILOSOPHIES and all of the above of which are supported by you Liberals – has no standing to even discuss the value of Liberty let alone charge someone else with not understanding its meaning.

            Your charges are nothing but a clanging cymbal, “a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing.” – Macbeth

          58. AKLady says

            You have been well-brainwashed.

            You are the one demanding demand that EVERYONE adhere to their beliefs under penalty of being ostracized, discredited or worse – kind of like you attempted to do to ME on these posts.
            Those with eyes who cannot see.

          59. Liberty's Advocate says

            Any independent analysis of our exchanges will verify it is YOU that is crazier than a pet ‘coon, lady! You lack objectivity, cannot even muster enough mental energy to summon your own words and refuse to engage in an exchange of ideas. So why the hell are you continuing to pester me?

          60. AKLady says

            “Physician, heal thyself”

          61. Liberty's Advocate says

            Out! Out, Damned spot!!

          62. AntiGOP says

            Just what “box” am I supposed to think out of?

            The BOX he’s in…

          63. AntiGOP says

            AKLady…spot on…

            Well I meant sis LOL

          64. AKLady says

            Your no, no, no answers speak truth very loudly.
            You do not know jack when it comes to Christian principles.
            You also don’t know the first think about the above Bible citations
            You also do not know very much about Jesus and seemingly less about Christianity.

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.” Matthew 5:17.

            Oh, and foolish one, American Common Law is based on British Common Law, which is based on Roman Law. Neither American or British Common Law has anything to do with Jesus or Christianity. All U.S. states except Louisiana have enacted “reception statutes” which generally state that the common law of England

            I’m not in the least bit curious as to how YOU BELIEVE religious influences might be found as foundational aspects of our government.

          65. Liberty's Advocate says

            Your questions about Biblical references were given all the attention they deserved, being as specious, nonsensical, off-point and negative as they were. If you want serious answers to questions, ask serious questions and show some interest. Your Matthew 5:17 quote from the Sermon on the Mount comes as close to a lead-in to a serious discussion as you have come so far.

            And British Common Law had as its origins the Magna Carta under King John , so what is your point? Are you ignoring the fact that ALL WESTERN LAW has as its root the 10 Commandments, and the Judeo-Christian ethic?

            O, yes, you ARE curious. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be scrambling in research on the Net and applying pretenses of having vast knowledge about the law. If copy and paste is all you are capable of, point, set, match! You want to know why Socialism won’t work? Read Frederick Bastiat, “The Law”.

          66. AKLady says

            You seem to ignore the fact that the British Isles were ruled by Rome.
            Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 55 and 54 BC as part of his Gallic Wars

            Christianity did not become an integral part of the Roman Empire until 313 AD, under the Emperor Constantine. The English Church dates to 156 AD Rome’s thirty-third Emperor Diocletian unleashed the Great Persecution of Christians in 303 AD.

            You think you know about western law, but you don’t know jack. Your history education is extremely lacking,. OI suggest you read Order, Law, and Crime by Raymond Michalowski and The Politics of Jurisprudence by Roger Cotterrell.

            Factually, the early development of English Common law took place under William the First.

          67. Liberty's Advocate says

            I am ignoring nothing. YOU, on the other hand, have made no reference to the Christian link WITHIN the Common Law, which the existence of Ecclesiastical Courts confirms. I repeat, ALL Western Law has at its root the Ten Commandments.

            Moses is frequently referred to as the Great Law Giver. His image is even carved in relief on the stone facade above the columns on the Supreme Court building in Washington , DC – flanked by other notable philosophers of the ages such as Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Solon, Confucius, etc.

            The Ten Commandments adorn the doors – BOTH doors – leading into the Supreme Court chamber as well as the wall behind where the Justices are seated. The influence of the 10 Commandments appears to be recognized by everyone except YOU – curiously even our Supreme Court. I DO know Jack … your intellectual standing and honesty, however, are in question.

          68. AKLady says

            Moses is Old Testament, he was very Jewish.

            The Ten Commandments are JEWISH LAW, not Christian in origin.
            You have a very deficient history education.
            Your religious education is just as lacking.

          69. Liberty's Advocate says

            Wow!! You know that Bible reference from earlier – Matthew 5:17? Since God is consistent, never changing from Old Testament to New, and Christ often refers to keeping the commandments – I see no conflict. Ours is a Judeo/Christian heritage, unabashedly so. Your twisted logic, selective fact finding and interpretation, and your attempts to baffle with bullshit are an embarrassment to YOU – not to me. Not in your time zone … I’m out.

          70. AKLady says

            Fact is fact There is no logic involved.
            Oh, and Protestants and Catholics have different versions of them.

          71. Liberty's Advocate says

            Are you having fun arguing with yourself ?? – Because you’re certainly not addressing anything I’VE said. No one in THIS conversation ever claimed the 10 Commandments had a Christian origin. You’re tilting at windmills by raising “straw man” arguments like that one.

            It’s hilarious when you examine the last sentence above, where you show they are a part of Christianity.

            That is a typical Liberal tactic which the media shows us every day with their distortions of fact, putting words in people’s mouths, character assassination, distractions from real issues, using a constant drumbeat of lies and false accusations as a narrative until the non-story takes on a life of its own. “A lie repeated often enough becomes fact”. That’s indoctrination copying the example set by Joseph Goebbels.

            Liberalism cannot win under close scrutiny – when exposed to the light of truth like the blood-sucking vampires that follow its agenda. Liberalism or Progressivism (modern iterations of which more closely resemble Socialism, Fascism and Communism) is becoming much LIKE a vampire which is imaginary in its existence, kills individual initiative and self-sufficiency thus draining the life-blood of freedom and is dedicated to the destruction of the individual and our basic Human Rights of existence.

          72. AntiGOP says

            government enforced health insurance

            PURE BULLSHIT

            IT WAS NEVER

          73. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You ever feel stupid lol…..loser…..how does it feel to lose like a liberal


          74. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed but I am sure tht his close friend and fellow leftist Democrat ideologue will surpass even Obama’s failures. Why do we keep putting in leftists as POTUS. The dumbing down of America by the left is surely complete.

        3. James Richard Holt says

          You know occasionally even RINOs come up with a correct answer. Trump is neither a conservative nor a liberal he is a pragmatist and so if a cause if impossible to achieve he will say so. If a cause can be won but cost of that victory makes it a pyrrhic victory he will say so. If a cause for which he campaigned turns out to have not been such a good cause he has no difficulty making a mid course correction even if he won’t admit he was not quite right in the first place. It is possible that you and all those who support repeal and replace or those who supported that in the past which includes me may need to see if we can achieve the desired result by some other means such as a major make over of the un-affordable health care act. Whatever the case I think I have figured out why the Democrats succeed so often over us Republicans. We expend so much of our efforts and energies throwing darts and grenades at each other where as even if the Dems fight amongst themselves they vote in a near monolithic block. They get their stuff together and they hang together we on the other hand had eight years to come up with a replacement plan but we spent so much effort shooting at each other we ended up with President Trump as the last man standing. He wasn’t my first second or third choice but Hillary didn’t even make that list as far as I am concerned so I voted for him and he is what we got and no we either fish or cut bait. We republicans were told we need the House of Representatives so we got them. We were told we need the Senate so we got them too then we were told we needed the White House sooooo we got that too now for God Sake lets get our Stuff (you can use another noun in place of stuff if you are so inclined it starts with s and ends in t in case you have not figured it out) together and get the best legislation we can voted on and if passed on the books. We don’t need to push for perfect legislation because if we do that we will fritter away a golden opportunity to make this Nation Great Again . . . is there an echo in here?

          1. cristoiglesia says

            Well Trump’s history belies your opinion that Trump is not a politician. He has been a far left liberal Democrat kingmaker and ideologue his entire life until he ran for POTUS. This leftist Trump who ran to the left of Hillary in this election is a step in the wrong direction. America did not need to go further and more firmly to the left with Trump but instead to the political right. We missed our chance in nominating a far left liberal ideologue and a Vietnam draft dodger to POTUS. This presidency cannot have a good result. Conservative like myself must learn to hunker down against the persecution tht has already started against us conservatives.

          2. Bill Meyers says

            There is nothing left of Hillary, except maybe Obama.

          3. cristoiglesia says

            Well her best family friend is now POTUS and I am sure he calls on the Clinton’s regularly for advice which he can take if his puppeteer George Soros approves.

          4. AKLady says

            Trump has never been a liberal.
            Trump and his daddy have been repeatedly sued by the DOJ for racial discrimination

          5. john says

            That’s cause we hate 3rd world retards – you included!

          6. AKLady says

            Why do you insult people you know nothing about?
            Is it because the Internet protects you from repercussion?

          7. john says

            I’d say it to your face!

          8. AKLady says

            Come on up here to Alaska.
            I’ll be happy to teach the immature man-child some manners.
            Name calling is something most give up by second or third grade,

          9. john says

            I’d beat the shit out of you low life communist bastard – now fuck off!

          10. AKLady says

            You would not have that opportunity. I’d sing at your funeral.

          11. AKLady says

            So childish.

          12. cristoiglesia says

            Communicating threats is a felony. Threatening to assault a woman is cowardly.

          13. john says

            Ak Whore is a troll and has been for a long time. I don’t think it is a lady. She had to have the last word and it was my attempt to get her off my back.

          14. cristoiglesia says

            Next time, try not to commit a felony. Controlling one’s emotion is the sign of an adult. Please learn to act civilly or find another hobby. Educate yourself and win by intellect and knowledge instead of emotion which will always defeat you.

          15. cristoiglesia says

            What? Do you really think that leftists cannot be racist? Liberals are the most racist of all. Trump has been a far left liberal Democrat ideologue his whole life and shares no conservative ideology with Republicans. Being historically ignorant of Trump is very dangerous to our country and especially conservatism. Trump is in the process of turning America sharply and suddenly to the left. Conservatives like myself are already being vilified and Trump will not be happy until conservatives are persecuted.

          16. AKLady says

            Exactly what about Trump makes you think he is a liberal.
            Could it be the millions he took from the government for building federal and state housing? Could it be the DOJ;s over 200 suits against him for racial discrimination? …

          17. cristoiglesia says

            First of all I am a professor of Early Church History in a Jesuit Seminary. I am driven to do research before coming to conclusions. When he announced his run for the Presidency he was largely unknown to me as a lifetime Republican so, I took time to research his history. In doing so, I found that he would be a very good candidate for the Democrat party which he had a lifetime of being a part. He also was to the left of most Democrats in ideology and personal practice. Even morally he appeared to be your typical far left liberal Democrat which means tht morality was not very important to him. For him to be suddenly switching to the Republican Party and registering to run as a Republican for POTUS seemed quite suspect. I was not at all impressed at his performance of being a caricature for a conservative Republican that only a leftist Democrat could create. It turns out tht I was right and his candidacy was only a ruse to ensure tht a leftist would be elected.

          18. AKLady says

            You have been taken in by the far-right propaganda machine.
            You confuse keeping one’s actions private with morality.
            History simply does not support your claims.
            Trump is extremely right-wing, he uses people to enrich himself.
            He also intentionally makes $millions from using the poor.
            Trumps has zero government experience.
            The Presidency only interested him in regard to the “ego boost” and the profit it would provide him.

          19. cristoiglesia says

            How did you come to the conclusion that Trump is “extremely” right wing? He has no history of ever supporting the right but instead has a history of being a far left liberal Democrat ideologue before running for POTUS as a Republican. His history proclaims my claims and does not in any way detract from them. On what basis do you claim Trump to be from the political right? There is no history supporting such a scurrilous claim. I agree that his motivation was profit but also he had the motivation to promote ha leftist America which is something his candidate Obama failed to do in his eight years as POTUS. He probably has a bet with his friends the Obama’s, Clinton’s and Soros’ that he is the one that can turn the country sharply to the left. So far he is accomplishing his goal.

          20. AKLady says

            Trump is third generation KKK, his denials are meaningless spew.
            His last two wives are Communist born, raised and educated.
            Those wives fit very well with his published admiration for Putin.

          21. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, what you claim is supported with research.

          22. cristoiglesia says

            Historically and ideologically Trump is a far left lifetime liberal Democrat.

          23. AKLady says

            The Trump empire built the majority of government housing on the East Coast.
            He has been sued over 200 times by the DOJ for racial discrimination.
            Begin your education with United States v. Trump, NY, 1973.

          24. Mathew Molk says

            Finely somebody with a brain. Right on Jimmy.

            lets take whatever we can and live to fight another day. The NWO Marxists did put us on te run with a single bill in congress, lets take them apart a little at a time. There are FAR more important matters then rubbing out Obamacare, which is going to die on it’s own anyway.

            Let’s get hot on the wall and make the so called “sanctuaries” obey the law, Then we have to start getting the moslems out of the country before they either kill us or run US out.

            Screw Obamacare.


          25. AKLady says

            People die.
            You let them die.
            You help to kill them.

          26. Bill Meyers says

            How is it anyone helps kill them? They have s right to purchase insurance, just like everyone else, I think the government has no right to force anyone to buy anything. Any healthcare plan should be limited to making healthcare affordable, and cover those with a preexisting confition. Nothing more, nothing less.

          27. mrpoohead says

            America has the worst healthcare (before and after Obamacare) in the modern world (W Europe, Canada, NZ and Australia). World Health Organisation report.

          28. AKLady says

            Yes, BEFORE and AFTER.

          29. AKLady says

            You also have the right to buy food.
            You also have the right to breathe.
            You also have the right to be so poor that home is a cardboard box.
            Oh, and before the ACA, many people with pre-existing conditions were DENIED coverage

            Ohm and by the way, a normal pregnancy and delivery was a “pre-existing condition” for which insurers increased the cost of insurance.

          30. mrpoohead says

            PS W Europe et al all have state healthcare systems – all outrank ours. WHO!

          31. AKLady says

            Trump is a real estate salesman — nothing more, nothing less.
            He is also a legally documented racist.’

          32. James Richard Holt says

            Ok I’ll bite what is, “a legally documented racist?” As for real estate salesman? He is a builder a motivator he has vast experience negotiating and usually successfully for what he wants. By the way what’s wrong with real estate sales people anyway? Not that I am one but I do have some friends who are in real estate sales. I am a chemist former teacher and retired Air Force. Trump is a pragmatist as I said above he will set his goals and then do what he needs to do take the stances he needs to take and fight for whatever it is he needs to accomplish his goals. He believes very much in management by objective and that means if a objective is a must he will achieve it by what ever means necessary if its not a must but he wants it he will expend what ever capital it may take to achieve the goal up to a point. If it becomes too expensive he will drop it like a hot potato and move on the next objective. What is a legally documented racist?

          33. Bill Meyers says

            Agree James, these people throw terms around with little if any thought. Just a nice buzzword they heard someone use. As a retired veteran (USAF 67-88), I sometimes wonder if it was worth if to give freedom of speech to people who don’t know what they are saying.

          34. AKLady says

            I wonder how someone as poorly informed as you are was ever allowed in the USAF. The Army or the Marines would be understandable, but the USAF is not looking for cannon fodder.

          35. Bill Meyers says

            There is a great difference between what you call poorly educated and stupid. You can’t fix stupid and you are living proof. I resent you insinuation that our braves soldiers and marines are cannon fodder, without these people that you look down on are the only reason you are free to prove how fucking stupid you are, by running your mouth.

          36. AKLady says

            Instead of insulting people, maybe you should look at the historic requirements for the Army an the Marines. The Navy and the Air Force were a bit more selective.

            I’ve never heard of any young criminal sentenced to serve in either, have you? On the other hand, many were sentenced to serve in the Army.

            Your foul language is very ignorant and childish.

            Oh, and stupid one, Uncle Sam put me through medical school. That debt was paid with six years of my life, including two combat hospital tours in Vietnam.
            I sewed a lot of young men back together, hopefully you were not one of them. I’d hate to be responsible for saving your life.

          37. cristoiglesia says

            Thank you for your service.

          38. cristoiglesia says

            Hey,I am a Marine and Vietnam Veteran of Khe Sahn in “67-“68. Trump was a draft dodger. I am glad I am no longer on active duty and calling the POTUS Commander and Chief. That must be a tremendous burden for current active duty to have to do that to a draft dodger.

          39. AKLady says


          40. WhiteFalcon says

            Draft dodger, you mean like Bill Clinton?

          41. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, but Bill was fortunately given a very high draft number which meant that it would be very unlikely for him to be drafted. The numbers were given out by lottery based on one’s birth date. My draft number was 20 out of 365 which made it almost certain that I would be drafted. I joined the Marine Corps as a result. What Donald Trump did was to shop for a doctor that would give him a deferment for the right price. Trump was the only athlete I ever knew that got a deferment for a bone spur. Perhaps this joint history is what made Bill and the Donald such close friends through the years as they shared the same leftist ideology. There are many more similarities between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump like having a preference for underage girls and traveling together to Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile island. Trump got sued by two girls for rape from the island but so far Bill has not had that experience and had to pay anyone off as has the Donald.

          42. WhiteFalcon says

            As I remember, Bill Clinton was in fact drafted but he refused to show up. I think he was protected by Arkansas Senator Fulbright and possibly by Arkansas Governor Faubis because he was even then getting involved in liberal politics. He was awarded a Fulbright scholarship even though there was nothing academically outstanding about him other then his relationships with Senator Fulbright. Nonetheless, he refused to show up when he was drafted and he got away with it. He should have spent several years in Ft. Leavenworth.

          43. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed! From their actions one would have thought that Trump and Bill were friends even back then but they were not. Certainly they were on the same page when it came to serving their country. Both refused.

          44. cristoiglesia says

            Yes indeed, most leftists at the time were draft dodgers if they were rich like Trump they could avoid the draft by paying some doctor off to claim they had a bone spur. Of course, that bone spur did not interfere in his playing football at the military reform school he attended for being a “troubled” youth.

          45. WhiteFalcon says

            There were a big bunch that went to Canada to avoid the draft. They weren’t rich. I wasn’t sure what I would do if they called me. I had a lot of trouble trying to figure out just why were were in Johnson’s war. I’m glad I wasn’t drafted. I did actually enlist toward the end of that mess, but the chances of going to Nam were slim at the time. That was a Democrat fiasco all the way. Johnson had no business trying to micro manage it because he was not qualified to do it. It was a bad deal all the way around.

          46. cristoiglesia says

            I went in at the perfect time to make it to Khe Sahn in late “67-“68 as part of the 3rd Marine Division. I was a part of the most intensive fighting of the whole war against the North Vietnamese as well as the Chinese Army. I was wounded twice there, 3 times if you consider the wounds that are not seen but felt daily. But, if it had not been for Khe Sahn I would not have received my PhD and become a priest. That experience inspired me to serve God and His children.

          47. WhiteFalcon says

            Congratulations. I hope that the rest of your life can be extremely rewarding for you.

          48. cristoiglesia says

            Thank you and you also.

          49. AKLady says

            One that ha been charged and fined by the DOJ.

            Start your education with United States v. Fred Trump, Donald Trump …, New York, 1973. There are about 200 more just like it. https://www.clearinghouse.net/detail.php?id=15342

          50. cristoiglesia says

            ROFLOL! Nonense! But, you have quite an imagination.

          51. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          52. cristoiglesia says

            Uninformed nonsense, Trump has been a lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue his entire life. Just prior to running for POTUS he was known as the kingmaker in the Democrat party and was almost solely responsible for the election of his friend Barack Obama with his influence and funding. After getting Obama elected he gloated that Obama is a great President. Conservative Republicans like myself strongly disagree with his conclusion and have no inclination to give this leftist support in turning America to the ideological left.

          53. cristoiglesia says

            Absolute ignorant uninformed nonsense…Trump has been a far left liberal Democrat ideologue his entire life.

          54. James Richard Holt says

            Ok instead of making unsubstantiated claim in a rude manner I might add present your evidence.

          55. cristoiglesia says

            My answer was succinct and not rude. I will not do the research for you since that is something you should have already done before supporting a candidate. If you had done the research into Trump’s past you would have found him to be a consistent lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue. If you were informed it would not be necessary for me to substantiate my claim. Do the research and get back to me when you are informed and we will talk. Here is a hint: Trump has never had conservative. Trump has no conservative compulsions or desires.

          56. cristoiglesia says

            Simply learn to use Google and do you9r own research. If you are honest you will come to the same conclusions as I.

          57. cristoiglesia says

            Trump is an icon for typical “60’s draft dodger. He and Clinton had the same lack of courage and faithfulness to their country. The problem is we need a true Republican in the White House instead of a Northeast lifetime far left liberal pretending to be a Republican in the White House. In this election, I am afraid that the country, in general, has turned sharply to the left embracing those leftist ideologues who continue to cause our problems socially and economically. The more Americans are controlled by the left the more they want and that is sad. The American independent pioneer spirit is long dead and buried. America is on a decline as a nation as the fat cats like Trump are glorified and ignored for their leftist ideology.

        4. AKLady says

          Trump has never been a Republican.

        5. mlmaston says

          Trump is not Establishment. He is not a Politician… Republican or Democrat. He is a business who is sick and tired of the way Big Government is buggering the American people.

          1. cristoiglesia says

            Are you really that ignorant an uninformed about Trump’s leftist history. You need to research and inform yourself. Trump has NEVER been a conservative but instead ha always been a fr left liberal Democrat ideologue.

      2. MAHB001 says

        It seems even Trump understand how difficult that is going to be.


        1. mlmaston says

          Trump… just do it.

          1. pmbalele says

            Do what? You should come out of shadow and suggest what Trump should do. I have suggested to Trump to get rid of premium. The alternative should be to have a 0.01 sales tax. This will fund the Obamacare expanded and won’t hurt anybody poor or rich.

          2. mlmaston says

            Repeal Obamacare of course.
            What do you think we’re talking about here?

          3. pmbalele says

            I believe only morons want to get rid of Obamacare because Obama’s family is Black. Get out that racist bubble and think for yourself what you want in this country. You’re listening too much to racists like Ryan, McConnell. These are dangerous to your health.

          4. mlmaston says

            I’m black myself…. your comment is the most asinine comment I’ve read so far.

          5. SD of AZ says

            Pmbalele must be drunk himself. Usually he makes some sense but not this time.

          6. pmbalele says

            If you’re Black, then watch your back. They may be laughing with you, but their have their agenda.

          7. mlmaston says

            Fuck them and their agenda… I can take care of myself.

          8. mlmaston says

            Pmbalele may be drunk, but his comment also put his intelligence under question. Also…. only a Racist would call another person a racist.

          9. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Ru racist or just plain Liberal? You are a very low class person you are a
            loving example of pure hate, ignorance and low energy…now sit down fool! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e103b4318718359ca3d2ed44eae1c567d2c3d0393742e9a25a834c49c59fa486.jpg

          10. pmbalele says

            Did you hear the rumors today – President Trump wants to quit the job? I would not blame him. He already looks old. He was good looking during the campaign; but not today. I guess his body has lost 6 years within 4 weeks. Today another judge blocked his foreign policy. Hawaii gets a lot of tourists to see the volcanoes. Erasing Obamacare died today. Would you please ask Trump to hire me as consultant on expanding Obamacare? Those around him are usually drunk – do not have opinion of their own. They depend on Paul Ryan – the liar.

          11. cristoiglesia says

            It would be fabulous if he did quit but that is an impossibility. He is old and has looked that way for more than a decade. He is also horribly out of shape. For goodness sakes…during the campaign he spray painted his face orange.

            Praise God for conservative judges.

            Don’t blame Trump or those around him…it is George Soros who bought the US presidency and is running the show. Trump is just his puppet.

          12. mlmaston says

            I don’t listen to rumors…. I prefer facts, of which you have none.

          13. pmbalele says

            Do you why we have computer hackers and ransomware? It is because Repubs and TPs are cutting funds for poor kids to attend college. I have recommended Trump to give our local smart kids college computer education. But Repubs and TPs and especially Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell want to cut funding for scholarships for smart kids who want university education. Other nations such as India, China and African are giving free university computer education to their smart kids. I hope President Trump will listen to me to avail scholarships to poor smart local kids.

          14. mlmaston says

            Changing the topic, eh?

          15. Delma Munoz says

            Sure FRAUD GOVTEETWHORE..there is a big line around GOP and REAL AMERICANs vs GOT TETWHORES…bowing to Libs/Left cowards of the Century…no can contrib ute anything except lies, deceitful et al..vs the soil you sit upon blood sucking from REAL AMERICANs..workers, taxpayers..get it..if not jump off a very tall building before your compadres…ISLAMOFASCISTNAZIs find you..

          16. cristoiglesia says

            Yes and all those morons voted for Trump.

          17. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Crooked Hillary lost becuase she was a Liberal liar ….AMERICA LOVES TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!! Only haters hate trump like you! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a014f9838320e190e6af1c2575ee5ed5d7bcd50818eec07989ea9a6defe54463.jpg

          18. cristoiglesia says

            Trump won because he is a lifetime liberal liar.

          19. cristoiglesia says

            Did you not notice that Trump ran to the left of Hillary on abortion, funding of Planned Parenthood, gun control, and healthcare. Ideologically they are both lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologues with very little differences in their ideology. Trump is without a question the most far left person to ever get elected to POTUS. It is ironic that he did as a Republican which is a party that he has traditionally has hated his whole life.

          20. Delma Munoz says

            Eat your own manure…regurjitated..as many times as the ESTABLISHMENT and its GOVTEETWHOREs. spew out vile, wicked deceitful from HELL of which they are destined to return…and not soon enough…

          21. AntiGOP says

            Repeal Obamacare…ya baby…

            That would guaranty every red seat to blue throughout America

            Then we would be GREATER AGAIN.

          22. AntiGOP says

            Go back in your cave GODBlessRealAmerica! you obviously have nothing to offer this Cun Tree.

        2. AKLady says

          Actually, Trump does not want it repealed. He would lose too much money, not to mention probably being impeached.

        3. AKLady says

          The lies Trump has told since January 20:

          1. White House press secretary Sean Spicer falsely claimed the crowd on the National Mall was “largest audience to ever witness an inauguration.” (Jan. 21)

          2.Trump falsely claimed that the crowd for his swearing-in stretched down the National Mall to the Washington Monument and totaled more than 1 million people. (Jan. 21)

          3.As Trump fondly recalled his Inauguration Day, he said it stopped raining “immediately” when he began his speech. A light rain continued to fall throughout the address. (Jan. 21)

          4.During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump claimed the media made up his feud with the agency. In fact, he started it by comparing the intelligence community to “Nazi Germany.” (Jan. 21)

          5.During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump repeated the claim that he “didn’t want to go into Iraq.” He told Howard Stern in 2002 that he supported the Iraq War. (Jan. 21)

          6.During his speech at CIA headquarters, Trump said he had the “all-time record in the history of Time Magazine. … I’ve been on it for 15 times this year.” Trump had been featured on the magazine a total of 11 times. (Jan. 21)

          7.Trump claimed that his inauguration drew 11 million more viewers than Barack Obama’s in 2013. It didn’t, and viewership for Obama’s first inauguration, in 2009, was even higher. (Jan. 22)

          8.Spicer said during his first press briefing that there has been a “dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years.” This is false. (Jan. 23)

          9.While pushing back against the notion of a rift between the CIA and Trump, Spicer claimed the president had received a “five-minute standing ovation” at the agency’s headquarters. He did not. The attendees were also never asked to sit down. (Jan. 23)

          10.Spicer claimed that “tens of millions of people” watched the inauguration online. In fact, about 4.6 million did. (Jan. 23)

          11.Trump told CBN News that 84 percent Cuban-Americans voted for him. It’s not clear where Trump got that number. According to the Pew Research Center, 54 percent of Cuban-Americans in Florida voted for him. (Jan. 23)

          12.While meeting with congressional leaders, Trump repeated a debunked claim that he only lost the national popular vote because of widespread voter fraud. (Jan. 24)

          13.In remarks with business leaders at the White House, Trump said, “I’m a very big person when it comes to the environment. I have received awards on the environment.” There is no evidence that Trump has received such awards. (Jan. 24)

          14.In signing an executive memo ordering the construction of the Keystone pipeline, Trump said the project would create 28,000 construction jobs. According to The Washington Post Fact Checker, the pipeline would create an estimated 16,000 jobs, most of which are not construction jobs. (Jan. 25)

          15.Spicer said in a press briefing that Trump received more electoral votes than any Republican since Ronald Reagan. George H.W. Bush won 426 electoral votes in 1988, more than Trump’s 304. (Jan. 24)

          16.In remarks he gave at the Homeland Security Department, Trump said Immigration and Customs Enforcement and border patrol agents “unanimously endorsed me for president.” That’s not true. (Jan. 25)

          17.Spicer said during a press briefing that a draft executive order on CIA prisons was not a “White House document.” Citing three administration officials, The New York Times reported that the White House had circulated the draft order among national security staff members. (Jan. 25)

          18.In an interview with ABC, Trump again claimed he “had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches.” False. (Jan. 25)

          19.Trump claimed during an interview with ABC that the applause he received at CIA headquarters “was the biggest standing ovation since Peyton Manning had won the Super Bowl.” It wasn’t even a standing ovation. (Jan. 25)

          20.In an interview with ABC, Trump attacked the Affordable Care Act and said there are “millions of people that now aren’t insured anymore.” Twenty million people have gained health coverage because of the law so far. The estimated 2 million people who did not qualify under the law received waivers that kept the plans going until the end of 2017. (Jan. 25)

          21.At the GOP retreat in Philadelphia, Trump claimed he and the president of Mexico “agreed” to cancel their scheduled meeting. Enrique Peña Nieto said he had decided to cancel it. (Jan. 26)

          22.At the GOP retreat in Philadelphia, Trump said the national homicide rate was “horribly increasing.” It is down significantly. (Jan. 26)

          23.On Twitter, Trump repeated his false claim that 3 million votes were illegal during the election. (Jan. 27)

          24.In an interview on “Good Morning America,” Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said Tiffany Trump, the president’s daughter, had told her she was “not registered to vote in two states.” A local election official confirmed to NBC News twice that the younger Trump indeed was. (Jan. 27)

          25.Trump said he predicted the so-called “Brexit” when he was in Scotland the day before the vote. He was actually there the day after the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union. (Jan. 27)

          26.Trump claimed The New York Times lost subscribers “because their readers even like me.” The Times experienced a sharp uptick in subscribers after Election Day. (Jan. 27)

          27.Trump claimed two people were fatally shot in Chicago during Obama’s last speech as president. That didn’t happen. (Jan. 27)

          28.Trump claimed that under previous administrations, “if you were a Muslim you could come in, but if you were a Christian, it was almost impossible.” In fact, almost as many Christian refugees were admitted to the U.S. as Muslim refugees in fiscal year 2016. (Jan. 27)

          29.Trump defended the swiftness of his immigration order on the grounds that terrorists would have rushed into the country if he had given the world a week’s notice. Even if terrorists wanted to infiltrate the refugee program or the visa program, they would have had to wait months or even years while being vetted to get into the country. (Jan. 30)

          30.The White House maintained that Trump’s immigration order did not apply to green card holders and that was “the guidance from the beginning.” Initially, the White House said the order did include green card holders. (Jan. 30)

          31.Trump said his immigration order was “similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months.” Obama’s policy slowed resettlement of refugees from Iraq, but did not keep them from entering the country. Moreover, it flagged the seven countries included in Trump’s order as places the U.S. considered dangerous to visit. (Jan. 30)

          32.Spicer said that “by and large,” Trump has been “praised” for his statement commemorating the Holocaust. Every major Jewish organization, including the Republican Jewish Coalition, criticized it for omitting any specific references to the Jewish people or anti-Semitism. (Jan. 30)

          33.A Trump administration official called the implementation of Trump’s travel ban a “massive success story.” Not true ? young children, elderly people and U.S. green card holders were detained for hours. Some were deported upon landing in the U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) even criticized the rollout as “confusing.” (Jan. 30)

          34.Spicer equated White House adviser Steve Bannon’s appointment to the National Security Council Principals Committee with Obama adviser David Axelrod attending meetings pertaining to foreign policy. Axelrod, however, never sat on the Principals Committee. (Jan. 30)

          35.Spicer said people would have “flooded” into the country with advance notice of Trump’s immigration order. Not true. (Jan. 30)

          36.Spicer insisted that only 109 travelers were detained because of Trump’s immigration order. More than 1,000 legal permanent residents had to get waivers before entering the U.S. An estimated 90,000 people in total were affected by the ban. (Jan. 30)

          37.Trump tweeted the false claim that “only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning.” (Jan. 30)

          38.Trump took credit for cutting $600 million from the F-35 program. But Lockheed Martin already had planned for the cost reductions for the next generation fighter plane. (Jan. 31)

          39.Trump accused China of manipulating its currency by playing “the money market. They play the devaluation market, and we sit there like a bunch of dummies.” According to The Washington Post, the United States is no longer being hurt by China’s currency manipulation, and China is no longer devaluing its currency. (Jan. 31)

          40.In defending the GOP’s blockade of Merrick Garland, Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Spicer said no president had ever nominated a justice “so late” in his term. It previously happened three times. (Jan. 31)

          41.Spicer repeatedly insisted during a press conference that Trump’s executive order on immigration was “not a ban.” During a Q&A event the night before, however, Spicer himself referred to the order as a “ban.” So did the president. (Jan. 31)

          42.White House officials denied reports that Trump told Peña Nieto that U.S. forces would handle the “bad hombres down there” if the Mexican authorities don’t. It confirmed the conversation the next day, maintaining the remark was meant to be “lighthearted.” (Jan. 31)

          43.Trump claimed that Delta, protesters and the tears of Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) were to blame for the problems over his travel ban. In fact, his administration was widely considered to blame for problems associated with its rollout. (Jan. 31)

          44.Trump said the Obama administration “agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia.” The deal actually involved 1,250 refugees. (Feb. 1)

          45.Trump said the U.S. “has the most generous immigration system in the world.” Not really. (Feb. 2)

          46.Trump said the U.S. was giving Iran $150 billion for “nothing” under the Iranian nuclear deal. The money was already Iran’s to begin with, and the deal blocks Iran from building a nuclear bomb. (Feb. 2)

          47.Spicer called a U.S. raid in Yemen “very, very well thought out and executed effort” and described it as a “successful operation by all standards.” U.S. military officials told Reuters the operation was approved “without sufficient intelligence, ground support, or adequate backup preparations.” (Feb. 2)

          48.Spicer said that Iran had attacked a U.S. naval vessel, as part of his argument defending the administration’s bellicose announcement that Iran is “on notice.” In fact, a suspected Houthi rebel ship attacked a Saudi vessel. (Feb. 2)

          49.In his meeting with union leaders at the White House, Trump claimed he won union households. He actually only won white union households. (Feb. 2)

          50.Conway cited the “Bowling Green massacre” to defend Trump’s travel ban. It never happened. (Feb. 3)

          51.Conway said citing the nonexistent “Bowling Green massacre” to defend Trump’s immigration order was an accidental “slip.” But she had mentioned it twice prior to that interview. (Feb. 3)

          52.Trump approvingly shared a story on his official Facebook page which claimed that Kuwait issued a visa ban for five Muslim-majority countries. Kuwait issued a statement categorically denying it. (Feb. 3)

          53.Trump claimed people are “pouring in” after his immigration order was temporarily suspended. Travelers and refugees cannot simply rush into the U.S. without extensive and lengthy vetting. (Feb. 5)

          54.After a judge halted his immigration ban, Trump claimed that “anyone, even with bad intentions, can now come into the U.S.” Not true. (Feb. 5)

          55.Spicer said nationwide protests of Trump are not like protests the tea party held, and called them “a very paid AstroTurf-type movement.” Although Democrats have capitalized on the backlash against Trump by organizing, the massive rallies across dozens of cities across the country ? which in some cases have been spontaneous ? suggests they are part of an organic phenomenon. (Feb. 6)

          56.During an interview with Fox News before the Super Bowl, Trump repeated his debunked claim of widespread voter fraud during the presidential election. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. Republican and Democratic state officials have said so, as have Trump’s own campaign attorneys. (Feb. 6)

          57.During an interview with Fox News before the Super Bowl, Trump repeated his false claim that he has “been against the war in Iraq from the beginning.” (Feb. 6)

          58.Conway said she would not appear on CNN’s “State of the Union” because of “family” reasons. CNN, however, said the White House offered Conway as an alternative to Vice President Mike Pence and that the network had “passed” because of concerns about her “credibility.” (Feb. 6)

          59.Spicer claimed CNN “retracted” its explanation of why it declined to take Conway for a Sunday show appearance. CNN said it never did so. (Feb. 6)

          60.Trump cited attacks in Boston, Paris, Orlando, Florida, and Nice, France, as examples of terrorism the media has not covered adequately. “In many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it,” he said at CENTCOM. Those attacks garnered wall-to-wall television coverage, as well as thousands of news articles in print and online. (Feb. 6)

          61.The White House released a more expansive list of terrorist attacks it believed “did not receive adequate attention from Western media sources.” Again, the list includes attacks that were widely covered by the media. (Feb. 6)

          62.Trump said sanctuary cities “breed crime.” FBI data indicates that crime in sanctuary cities is generally lower than in nonsanctuary cities. (Feb. 6)

          63.Trump claimed The New York Times was “forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win.” The paper has not issued such an apology. (Feb. 6)

          64.Trump claimed the murder rate is the highest it’s been in 47 years. The murder rate rose 10.8 percent across the United States in 2015, but it’s far lower than it was 30 to 40 years ago. (Feb. 7)

          65.Spicer explained that the delay in repealing Obamacare was a result of the White House wanting to work with Congress. Unlike during the Obama administration, he asserted, the legislature ? not the White House ? was taking the lead on health care. Various congressional committees worked on drafting multiple versions of the bill that would become the Affordable Care Act ? a lengthy process that took over a year. (Feb. 7)

          66.Trump accused Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) of misrepresenting “what Judge Neil Gorsuch told him” in response to the president’s attacks against the judiciary. Gorsuch called Trump’s tweets attacking federal judges “demoralizing.” A spokesman for Gorsuch confirmed the judge’s remarks. (Feb. 9)

          67.Trump has repeatedly said he doesn’t watch CNN. But he had to in order to see and offer and opinion on the network’s interview with Blumenthal. (Feb. 9)

          68.Former national security adviser Michael Flynn has said that phone calls he made to Russia prior to Trump’s inauguration were not related to sanctions. According to a Washington Post report, however, Flynn held private discussions with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, before Trump took office, suggesting that sanctions against Moscow would be eased by the incoming administration. (Feb. 9)

          69.Trump took credit for Ford’s decision not to open an auto factory in Mexico and instead expand its Michigan plant. The company said Trump was not responsible for its decision. (Feb. 9)

          70.Trump told a room full of politicians that “thousands” of “illegal” voters had been driven into New Hampshire to cast ballots. There is no evidence of such a claim. (Feb. 11)

          71.During an interview with ABC’s “This Week,” White House senior policy aide Stephen Miller falsely said the “issue of busing voters into New Hampshire is widely known by anyone who’s worked in New Hampshire politics.” Again, not true. (Feb. 11)

          72.Miller cited the “astonishing” statistic that 14 percent of noncitizens are registered to vote. The study the stat is based on has been highly contested. (Feb. 11)

          73.Trump said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was “cut off” on CNN for “using the term fake news the describe the network.” The senator was joking and he was not cut off. (Feb. 12)

          74.Trump accused the media of refusing to report on “big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road” in Florida. There were a few supporters, but they were vastly outnumbered by hundreds of protesters. (Feb. 12)

          75.White House officials told reporters that Flynn decided on his own to resign. However, Spicer said during a press briefing that the president asked Flynn to resign. (Feb. 13)

          76.Trump denied in a January interview that he or anyone on his campaign had any contact with Russia prior to the election. However, The New York Times and CNN both reported that Trump campaign officials and associates “had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials” before Nov. 8. (Feb. 15)

          77.Spicer denied in a daily briefing that anyone on the Trump campaign had had any contact with Russian officials. (Feb. 15)

          78.Trump complained he “inherited a mess” upon being elected to office. The stock market is experiencing record highs, the economy is stable and growing, and unemployment is low. (Feb. 16)

          79.Trump disputed the notion that his administration is experiencing turmoil, telling reporters it is working like a “fine-tuned machine.” His poorly executed travel ban has been suspended by the courts, a Cabinet nominee was forced to withdraw his nomination, and Trump’s national security adviser resigned after less than four weeks on the job. (Feb. 16)

          80.Trump said his 306 Electoral College votes was the biggest electoral votes victory since Ronald Reagan. Obama got 332 votes in 2012. (Feb. 16)

          81.Trump said his first weeks in office “represented an unprecedented month of action.” Obama accomplished much more during his first weeks in office. (Feb. 16)

          82.Defending himself from charges of hypocrisy on the matter of leaks ? which he frequently celebrated when they pertained to his campaign opposition but now denounces ? Trump said that WikiLeaks does not publicize “classified information.” It does, often anonymously. (Feb. 16)

          83.Trump repeated his claim that Hillary Clinton gave 20 percent of American uranium to the Russians in a deal during her tenure as secretary of state. Not true. (Feb. 16)

          84.Trump said drugs are “becoming cheaper than a candy bar.” They are not. (Feb. 16)

          85.Trump said his administration had a “very smooth rollout of the travel ban.” His immigration caused chaos at the nation’s airports and has been suspended by the courts. (Feb. 16)

          86.Trump said the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is in “chaos” and “turmoil.” It is not. (Feb. 16)

          87.Flynn lied to FBI investigators in a Jan. 24 interview about whether he discussed sanctions with Russian officials prior to Trump’s inauguration, according to The Washington Post. (Feb. 6)

          88.Trump falsely suggested at a Florida rally that Sweden had suffered a terror attack the night before his speech. It had not, and Trump was likely referring to a Fox News segment on crime in Sweden. (Feb. 18)

          89.During his Florida rally, Trump repeated his false claim that the United States has already let in thousands of people who “there was no way to vet.” Refugees undergo the most rigorous vetting process of any immigrants admitted to the United States, often waiting upwards of two years to be cleared for entry. (Feb. 18)

          90.White House chief of staff Reince Priebus said in a “Fox News Sunday” interview that Trump “has accomplished more in the first 30 days than people can remember.” Obama accomplished much more during his first weeks in office. (Feb. 19)

          91.Trump said during his campaign that he would only play golf with heads of state and business leaders, not friends and celebrities like Obama did. Trump has golfed with world leaders like Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Most recently, however, he hit the links with golf pro Rory McIlroy, International Sports Management’s Nick Mullen and his friend Rich Levine. (Feb. 19)

          92.A White House spokesperson told reporters that Trump only played a “couple” of holes at his golf resort in Florida. A day later, as reports came out saying the president had played 18 holes with Mcllroy, the White House admitted he played “longer.” (Feb. 19)

          93.Trump said the media is “trying to say large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!” Sweden’s crime rate has fallen in recent years, and experts there do not think its immigration policies are linked to crime. (Feb. 20)

          94.Spicer said Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) asked for a meeting with Trump at the White House. John Weaver, a former campaign aide of the governor, said the president asked for the meeting. (Feb. 21)

          95.Vice President Mike Pence called Obamacare a “job killer.” Overall, job growth has been steady since it was signed into law. And the number of unwilling part-time jobs has also gone down, contrary to GOP claims. (Feb. 22)

          96.Trump claimed that he negotiated $1 billion in savings to develop two new Boeing Co. jets to serve as the next Air Force One. The Air Force can’t account for that number. (Feb. 22)

          97.During a meeting with the nation’s CEOs at the White House, Trump claimed his new economic adviser Gary Cohn “paid $200 million in tax” to take a job at the White House. Cohn didn’t have to pay taxes, he had to sell more than $200 million of Goldman Sachs stock. (Feb. 23)

          98.Trump claimed there were “six blocks” worth of people waiting to get into the Conservative Political Action Conference to see him. People filled only three overflow rooms. (Feb. 24)

          99.At CPAC, Trump said that Obamacare covers “very few people.” Nearly 20 million people have gotten health insurance under the law. (Feb. 24)

          100.At CPAC, Trump said companies like Intel were making business investments in the United States because of his election. The company planned their new investments before the election. (Feb. 24)

          1. MAHB001 says

            65 REAL LIES in 0bama’s words that you dolts on the left accepted without question.


            When you hypocrites on the left start holding your own politicians accountable, we will talk about your kooked up BS.

          2. AKLady says

            Typical right-wing, out of context sewage.
            The picture you posted is not even Obama.

          3. MAHB001 says

            It is not just a picture Dr… It is a video, with 0bama’s lies, right from 0bama’s mouth…

            So now you thinks 0bama’s words and speeches are sewage… interesting.

          4. AKLady says

            Only it is not a photograph of Obama.
            The whole mess are photo-shopped garbage, about as reliable as that Brazilians revolution picture you claim are Muslims,.

          5. MAHB001 says

            You are the only person that gives a rats arse that the photo was photo shopped.
            At this point “What difference does it make?”

            The entire video is 0bama’s words, 65 promises, some lies, none kept. The words are what is important, the lies are what hurt the American People, and you want to talk about pictures….

            Dr Evil is your new name. The art of deception and deflection must be your doctorate.

          6. AKLady says

            If you were a moral and ethical person, your would care it was a lie.
            You claim others lie while vomiting the same from your own mouth.
            Is that a case of “it takes one to know one”?

          7. MAHB001 says

            I care only that you are a hypocrite and thus comments like yours do not deserve respect. You are dishonest, Dr. Evil.

            Those were 0bama’s words, the pictures were not speaking for 0bama and matter not.

          8. SD of AZ says

            So true. And well said.

          9. AKLady says

            The picture is not even Obama.
            One of the poorest cut and paste jobs I have seen in awhile.
            Then, the right-wing complains about lies ..
            Give it up.

          10. cristoiglesia says

            Actually it should be expected of liberals like Trump and Obama to be liars.

          11. MAHB001 says

            And it is… We all sin, except perhaps you… the big difference between the liberal lies and the Conservative lies, is that Conservatives have woken up, and now are holding their representatives accountable for their lies.

            Liberals like AK can’t even see that 0bama has lied to them. Yet they hypocritically expect conservatives to believe every kooked up piece of rhetoric that they make up.

            When I post a video with 0bama making comments that turned out to be false and the only thing the liberal dolt can find is a faked picture to argue about, I pretty much have made my point. The stuff that 0bama lied about had an impact on ALL of us. Sometime extremely serious impacts.

            The left failed to hold him accountable, even when 0bama hurt them.

            Now look at the crap in AK’s list… Many are merely opinions that they disagree with. Of no consequence at all, except when they use the accusation of lying.

            AK is beyond a shadow of doubt a liberal troll. Liberals have been known to send operatives behind enemy lines (pose as conservatives) with the intent to make conservatives look bad. She is out in the open, some are not, and your support of her comments is one of the reasons why I accused you of being a liberal. Me bad?? Maybe. I can’t tell anymore, who is the enemy and whom isn’t.

          12. AKLady says

            The major lie is yours.
            Which is your typical behavior.
            The picture you posted in not of Obama.

          13. SD of AZ says

            BORING AK. Boring old rhetoric. Got a new line of lies or not? If not tired of these same old arguments and lies! You ought to know better AK, I do think you are smarter than this. And again, as usual, a reminder you need fresh stuff, a new point or two in the libtard arguments that you constantly expound on! And you know whining is not becoming for a lady.

          14. AKLady says

            Facts are facts.
            Those presented are recorded facts.
            If you don’t like truth, tough.

          15. mlmaston says

            Maybe “AKLady” is really a male…. I stop short of calling it a man.

          16. cristoiglesia says

            Only an idiot or someone who has liven in a cave for the last 50 years wouldn’t know that Trump is a consummate liar. Get real this is not news to anyone not in a coma.

          17. AKLady says

            Well, most of the posters on this site kiss Trump’s plumber’s crack.

          18. mlmaston says

            Really??? “If you like your medical insurance, you can keep your medical insurance… if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”. Those two glaring whoppers come to mind…to say nothing about how much money we would be saving with this plan that he rammed through without a single vote from the Republican held house. As well as illegal “Tax”, again, passed without a single vote from the House of Representatives ( Republican held ). Nowhere is it mentioned in the Constitution does it say that the President has the power to DICTATE policy or pass taxes. To believe otherwise would be to believe a lie. Something that Liberals, such as you, are ready… and more than willing to do.

          19. cristoiglesia says

            Hey dog, you are barking up the wrong tree…I am far from being a leftist liberal like Trump but instead I am a far right lifetime Republican conservative.

          20. mlmaston says

            Well….to me, you come across like a Liberal.

          21. cristoiglesia says

            The fact that I oppose this charlatan Trump pretending to be a Republican and a conservative when, in fact he has a lifetime history of being a far left liberal Democrat his whole life. Look at his closest friends who are the Clinton’s and the Soros’. George Soros even funded his campaign with 312 million dollars in loan forgiveness in Chicago so that Trump could avoid personal bankruptcy and and run for POTUS. Essentially Trump sold the Presidency for 312 million dollars to Soros. The quid pro quo is that almost the entirety of Trumps cabinet are former Soros executives. IOW’s Soros is really the POTUS by being the puppet master pulling Trump’s indebted strings.

            If I were a liberal Democrat I would be ecstatic that Trump is POTUS but as a conservative lifetime Republican I am really disappointed that the Republican Party did not take advantage of the situation and nominate an actual conservative Republican to run against the leftist Hillary. This election proves the insanity of the American electorate which keeps electing far left liberal ideologues to POTUS but of course each time these insane voters expect a different result. God help America.Do research about Trump’s past. You do not have to be one of his deceived stooges.

          22. mlmaston says

            The Republicans didn’t have a viable choice to go up against Clinton…. and the voters knew it. If they tried to put one of those stooges up against Clinton, they would have been steamrolled. Trump is more of a Conservative Independent…who ran under the Republican banner. The deal he made with the Republicans was that he would not run as a third party candidate, IF the Republicans played fairly….and of course they didn’t. By then, the election campaign had progressed to far for him to run as a third party candidate…. so…. he decided to beat the Republican turncoats at their own game. Intelligence vs senility is admittedly not a fair contest, but the senile Republicans weren’t interested in fair play anyway. They got what they deserved…. and We The People got what we needed. It is not our fault that the Republican and Democratic elites couldn’t handle being outsmarted by the very man they were trying to destroy. I suggest that they get over it, and their over inflated egos, and get into the business of running this Country the way We The People want them to, or come the next election, those same people could find themselves out of a job. We The People have put up with all the crap that we’re going to put up with. No more.

          23. cristoiglesia says

            The American electorate is in a never ending cycle of insanity. We keep nominating far left liberal Democrat ideologues to run for POTUS. Trump is without any doubt the most leftist person to ever run for POTUS on any party. I see the irony of him running s a Republican which is the party that he has always despised as the far left lifetime Democrat.The Clinton’s, Trump’s and the Soros’ came up with a brilliant plan to get a leftist elected and that was to not have anyone but leftists running. America was doomed to have a leftist as POTUS from the beginning of the election process with the actual conservative Republicans eliminated before the primaries. I disagree that America needed another far left liberal Democrat as POTUS. As a conservative Republican I find such desires as foolishness and in fact insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Neither the Democrats or the Republicans opposed the leftist takeover of the White House once again. Unfortunately Americans were duped by Trump’s celebrity and forgot tht he is a far left lifetime liberal democrat and best friends of the Clinton’s and the Soros’. God help America having to endure more leftist leadership in the executive branch. All we had to do is run a true conservative Republican and the White House would have been in control of conservative Republicans instead of this leftist Democrat icon Trump.

          24. cristoiglesia says

            You can support whom you wish but i suggest that you stop the self delusion. Trump has never been conservative in any way. In the election he ran to the left of Hillary on key policy issues like abortion wanting abortion on demand to be a part of the Republican platform. Defiantly the platform committee refused. He wanted an expansion of Planned Parenthood funding and scope and sang their praises. He campaigned wanting to expand gun control by having a national registration of gun owners which would surely result in gun confiscation from law abiding citizens. He wanted universal healthcare for all using the socialist Canadian system as a model. Trump is no conservative in thought, word or deed.

            America was not in need then nor is it now in need for continuation of the Obama Presidency as if on steroids. Trump is to the left of even Obama whom, BTW, he called a “great President” after getting Obama nominated and funding his campaign when Trump was a Democrat insider and kingmaker. I do not know what you are referring to as “(Crap)” but Trump certainly will continue the leftist direction of leadership championed by Obama. My position is tht if you did not want to continue the “crap” then why did you vote to elect the person that gave us the last POTUS full of leftist excrement. You are spouting insanity.

          25. mlmaston says

            Jeezy Pete!! Hillary is as far left as you can go. You’re the delusional one…. but I guess you can’t expect much else from a Liberal troll. Goodbye, Troll.

          26. cristoiglesia says

            What? You have all the qualities of a leftist troll by supporting a far left liberal Democrat as POTUS. Time for a reality check for you…if you support a lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue then you are a leftist. Deal with it and stop trying to be deceptive. Trump campaigned to the left of Hillary and I believed him. Obviously you ignored his far left liberal positions and actions. Ideologically Trump and Hillary are very close to the same ideologically. That is probably why they have such a long time friendship between their families.

          27. mlmaston says

            Still here, Troll?

          28. cristoiglesia says

            I’m here…Have you been licking your wounds and now coming back for more reality in your life. How can I help you recover from your delusions about your Svengali Trump being anything other than the far left liberal Democrat ideologue he has always been?

          29. cristoiglesia says

            Leftists like yourself never get weary of liberal leadership but keep voting these leftists in over and over again expecting a different result. You personify insanity.

          30. AKLady says

            Yet, the right-wing that worships him are totally blind to those lies.

          31. AKLady says

            It is news to 99% of the posters on this blog.
            Moreover, they cannot see the lies even when they are highlighted.
            Then, again, maybe they just can’t admit the facts,

          32. cristoiglesia says

            The closest Trump ever comes to the truth is outlandish hyperbole.

      3. cristoiglesia says

        It will not happen. America elected the king of the RINO’s.

    2. Germansmith says

      Removing the cancer…forget that. Die of Cancer , one less person to collect SS checks.
      That is their healthcare plan and to save social security

      Wall…cost 23 billions to build, about 2 billion a year for maintenance and defending in it and billion of dollars in more sales of fast boats and subs to drug dealers…because they also want to reduce the Coast Guard budget by 1.3 billions a year….
      maybe Trump wants also to build a wall around our 4000+ miles of coast line?
      ….and the Trump Chumps will applaud with glee

      1. john says

        Germsandshit – You communist dumb bastard! Go ride your bike down one of the commie bike lanes and get smashed by a Mexican run trash truck!

        1. Mike says

          His statistics about the wall appear to be right on with all estimates put forth thus far. I cannot comment on the Coast Guard comment, but the wall is going to cost a fortune and really prevent nothing as they will just come in by boat, tunnel, or car. Let’s be honest the purpose of the wall is for people in Ohio, Iowa, Idaho to feel better not to actually keep people out.

          1. cristoiglesia says

            Historically walls have been built to keep people in and not people out. Trump is asking for our taxes to go up exponentially to pay for a wall to incarcerate ourselves.

          2. Jerry says

            I believe the wall will keep out a large portions of illegals and drugs. It will pay for itself with the welfare savings we will not be paying illegals and with jobs Legal Americans will be working instead of money under the table as earned by illegals and their welfare subsidies.

          3. cristoiglesia says

            One word describes your statements…”NONSENSE”.

          4. Bill Meyers says

            Glad you understand the word nonsense bf side it applies to many of your comments.

          5. cristoiglesia says

            I doubt it or a leftist like you would have pointed it out.

          6. AKLady says

            The food in your cupboard will double, if not quadruple in cost.
            Apparently, the foolish right-winger cannot see the entire issue, or the consequences od what he is demanding.

          7. AKLady says

            Another one who has not bothered to think the issue through
            to its consequence.

            When you have disposed of the “illegal” workers,
            you will not be able to afford to buy groceries.
            The food in your cupboard will double, if not quadruple in cost.

          8. Bill Meyers says

            Not if you consider the cost of welfare, EBT, educating their kids, incarceration of their criminals, etc.

          9. AKLady says

            Maybe you should actually look at the regulations that govern those programs.
            It would save you the embarrassment of making a fool of yourself before the world. But, hey, just about everyone else on this blog does that.
            Those regulations are very clear:
            Must be a citizen or a legal immigrant.

            Legal immigrants must be in the US for 5 years before they qualify for the majority of benefits.

            Illegals qualify for minimal health care.
            That is a national defense issue, not welfare.

          10. cristoiglesia says

            Excuse me for being dubious of leftists RINO’s like yourself. Perhaps you can be more specific rather than throwing unsupported accusations. I really have very little patience for those that support leftists like yourself.

          11. worn out 123 says

            America has already begun to save millions as the criminal elements have begun departing. Millions become billions in savings after awhile. This deportation thing is making CENTS.

          12. Mathew Molk says

            Dollars too. Now lets start on the moslems.

          13. AKLady says

            You mean like Crispus Attucks who was the first casyalty of the American Revolution?

            You mean like Morocco, the first country to recognize our new nation — our ally of 225 years?

            You mean like these other allies which provide the U.S. with military bases, support our wars, minerals, oil … Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain,Cambodia, Djibouti, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Morocco, Myanmar, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Tajikistan, Turkey, Uganda. United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam?

          14. worn out 123 says

            Small “m”. I like that.

          15. AKLady says

            Someone has fed you some very bad data.

          16. Mike says

            So you believe some concrete will keep out drugs? Are you delusional? the drug business is a multibillion dollar business. Drug dealers will absolutely find a way to get their product into this country. They will use boats, underground tunnels, planes etc to get drugs into this country.
            As for the jobs illegals do feel free to go pick crops for almost nothing. Just as an example though Georgia passed a law to drive illegals out of Georgia. It worked but as a consequence millions of dollars of blueberries, onions and melons went unharvested and rotted in the fields.
            Be careful what you wish for.

          17. Dan Lloret says

            probably not; don’t think that was considered possible anyway, but it will at least make it more difficult. The primary goal as I see it is to restrict and slow the flow of people coming in without due process and proper vetting; those processes help to control infectious disease from spreading, are a check on potential terrorists, and a means of identifying criminal elements. An illegal immigrant is more citizen than a squatter is a member of your household

          18. cristoiglesia says

            It already takes ten years and tens of thousands of dollars for the vetting of the children of American citizens to come to America. The process is badly in need of reform to make it easier for Americans to bring their families here. The process is ridiculously costly and an administrative nightmare. Make the immigration process more accessible and less costly and no wall will be needed. And, that is not saying that it is needed now because, it is not needed.

          19. Donna Costa says

            He did not say the wall would keep all drugs out, he said the they
            would be reduced. Can you read?

          20. Mike says

            Right my point is that it will not reduce the amount of drugs in this country at all. When there is that much money at stake nothing will stop people from getting their product into this country.

          21. worn out 123 says

            It might help keep the cartels from growing it in East Texas as they have been recently.

          22. Mathew Molk says

            Man are you ever full of shit.

            You need to gt out in the real world once in a while.

          23. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense…the only way to reduce drugs coming across the border is to reduce demand. Walls cannot work for that end goal. It is simply ignorant folly.

          24. kbmiller says

            Reduce welfare to those who “Will not do that work”. During the Great Depression, millions of people would do ANY job to support their families. People uprooted their families to where the jobs were. When I was a teenager, I swept floors and cleaned bathrooms. Why do some people think they’re too good for these jobs. Get these lazy leaches out of the hammock of welfare. They’re crippling our economy.

          25. Lilly Putney says

            When I was young my family followed the crop season. We picked any thing that had to be picked. Potatoes cotton watermelons beans if it grew we picked it.

          26. kbmiller says

            Thanks for sharing Lilly, my dad was born and raised on a small farm which we’d visit a few times a year, and it was hard work. It’s just so hard for me to hear the words, “Jobs that Americans won’t do”. I believe it’s because the welfare benefits are waaaay too generous and there’s no incentive for millions of these leaches to get off their fat asses. It’s easier for them to squeeze out babies and walk to the mailbox on the 2nd of the month. PATHETIC !!!

          27. worn out 123 says

            Yeah, but they vote democrat.

          28. kbmiller says

            Yep, they know what party will pay them with welfare for those votes too.

          29. AKLady says

            Another ignorant right-wing.
            Don’t you ever look up actual facts?

          30. AKLady says

            Yeah, but you are an idiot.

          31. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, without exception. And it is the leftist Democrats like Trump that do all of the complaining. Perhaps the Donald will do something when he imports his next Russian wife.

          32. AKLady says

            There are no “generous” welfare benefits.
            They are calculates to the minimum required to keep the person from dying.
            They are so generous that they increase the number of those 100% disabled. Moreover, they are so limited, that they impede brain development in children. That leads to a larger number of unemployed.
            Then there are those foreign made goods that you fill your shopping cart with every week.

          33. Mathew Molk says

            And it apparently did you no harm.10 bucks said you still have that work ethic. You have every right to be proud of what you did,,,,My mom’s family were sharecroppers in NC before she move to Baltimore and met my dad.

          34. Lilly Putney says

            Me I worked from the time I was 12 until I was 56 when I retired from Eastman Kodak. 25 years at Kodak , 5 years at Sylvania and a lot of waitress work as well owned two different restaurants. Now I am retired and my husband of 60 years are still doin things 82 and 84. Getting ready to go on the road this summer and to antique shows and flea markets. Great fun every one should have as much fun as I do.

          35. cristoiglesia says

            I have lived in Texas a few years now and have not yet met a lazy former Mexican. They do the work no one else will.

          36. kbmiller says

            I’m now friends with some and some from Central America, also. You are correct, they are not afraid of work. I think the problem is that, for generations now, some people have been on the “Gummint” dole and now they EXPECT it from “Womb to Tomb”. They are the Dumb A$$ ok RAT party’s base. Their families are broken and their children have little chance of success. Our dad taught us the “Work ethic” and I’m glad he did, even tho I didn’t like it then (LOL). He also taught us the value of a hard earned dollar. Many on welfare don’t have either because they know that check will be there whether they get off their fat ass or not.

          37. worn out 123 says

            SOCIALISM WORKS for a short time.

          38. kbmiller says

            Socialism, like sex,works for a short time. Then you gotta pay for it.

          39. worn out 123 says

            Good one! Can I use that, please?

          40. kbmiller says

            Yep, be my guest. You posted some good ones too.

          41. Mathew Molk says

            A-Men !

          42. AKLady says

            Your ignorance and bigotry are an embarrassment to America.
            Your hate for the aged, disabled and poor is a very sad picture of the hate and selfishness that exists in America. I suspect that you also claim America is a Christian nation…. ha, ha, ha…

          43. Lilly Putney says

            All they had to do was do it legal. Go to the border and ask for day workers to come do the harvest. They et a green card for the number of days that it takes to do the harvest then the farmer returns them to the Mexician authorities to return home. While they are here you are responsible for their food and shelter and make sure that they do their work. At the end of the harvest they are paid in full and taken back to the border. That is how it was done for years until some idiot thought that was the wrong way. We did it for many years in Tx

          44. Janet says

            I agree with you 100% Lilly Putney. It was the Bracero program. The excuse for shutting it down was because the farmers supplied unhealthy housing conditions….I lived not to far from one here in CA years ago. I am sure there are ways to do it more cost effectively and comply with the law. I have said for years that it needs to be reinstated.

          45. Mathew Molk says

            OK as far as it goes, but how is that going to put an end to the wetbacks that are here sucking up welfare and forming street gangs?

          46. AKLady says

            #1 — illegals do not qualify for federal welfare.
            #2 — street gangs have existed since we became a nation.

          47. Bill Meyers says

            So because they existed it is okay if the continue? You are delusional!

          48. AKLady says

            LOL, ha, ha, ha …
            Street gangs have existed as long ad there has been cities.
            Street gangs will continue to exist as long a there are cities.
            It is a word-wide function of poverty.

          49. AKLady says

            Farmers supplied unhealthy housing conditions, that is a well-documented fact.
            The hovels were hell-holes without running water, without toilets, without screens in the windows, let alone glass and no electricity, whatsoever.

          50. Bill Meyers says

            Just like they lived in Mexico huh? I can see why that would offend them.

          51. AKLady says

            Are you really that ignorant?
            Offend the impoverished migrant worker? No.
            Offend decent, caring Americans? Without a doubt.

            I can see you could care less as long as you can stuff your face without having to look at how it got to the grocery store.

            Maybe you should think about the mosquitos that bit them also flew over to your yard and bit you. Never mind the outhouse pit that overflowed into your potential food, etc., etc… or the fact that their child attended school with your children.

            You probably also claim to be a Christian in a Christian America.

          52. AKLady says

            You didn’t even bother to look at a map.
            Texas is on the border.
            It takes a day just to drive from Georgia to the border.
            Oh, and foolish one, it was never done the way you claim.

          53. worn out 123 says

            Gee whiz! My diet suffered and I never even noticed.

          54. worn out 123 says

            Oh, dear me!
            Now, if we get rid of sanctuary cities crap I suppose I will starve before Mexicans will come to pick fruit for twice the wages they could earn inside Mexico.
            Just one problem with that. I live in town and can grow more tomatoes, onions, and radishes, than I can possibly consume. Blueberries? Try IHOP.

          55. Mike says

            if farmers have to pay more to have their crop picked they will raise their prices and the middle class and get hurt again.

          56. worn out 123 says

            True. Except Mexicans will come to pick once again since cars will be made in America, henceforth. What else can they do now that America is not feeding and educating them besides legally immigrate to America (provided they don’t have a history of Los Zetas, Sinaloa, Nights Templar, etc., etc.). BTW, I will welcome them as always, in that case.

          57. Mathew Molk says

            We have AG robots all ready to go. In fact the are already in use. We are at the tipping point where migrant workers will be obsolete. 2 cents more a bushel is all it will take and after the learning curve and any remaining bugs are delt with the prrices will start dropping. These things can dig potatoes at night and work 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Well over 4 times the productivity of the best migrants.

          58. Jerry says

            Mike, the wall worked for Israel. As for the crops there is always the green card for the season.

          59. Mathew Molk says

            We sure put one hell of a crimp in the Ho Chi Minh trail and these dope mules are rank armatures compared to the VC and the NVA. Build the wall and turn the border partol and we can stop them cold.

          60. cristoiglesia says

            Nonsense Mathew, I was a Marine in the far north of South Vietnam in a place called Khe Sahn. I saw the elaborate tunnels built by the Chinese and the Vietnamese. They had ventilation, lighting and there were even hospitals built underground that were as well staffed and supplied as any US hospital. All the power and might of the US military could not stop these tunnels and neither will tht ridiculous idea of a wall. BTW, those tunnels are part of the propaganda of the Vietnamese saying tht these tunnels represent the superiority of the Vietnamese over the might of the US military machine.

            I was living in a hole full of water on top of a hill exposed to their mortar, rocket and artillery while they were living in comparative luxury free from the fear of attack. That wall will be known worldwide as Trumps folly and takes the stupidity of government to a new level. As I have said many times, walls are historically built to keep people in and not people out. The reason is that people can always just find ways to ignore the wall and go over, under or around them. I, for one, learned the lesson in Vietnam. People are to clever to be stopped by a wall.

          61. AKLady says


          62. AKLady says

            There will continue to be drugs smuggled into the U.S. as long as the market for them exists. Illegals do not qualify for large amounts of welfare.

          63. marihia says


          64. MAHB001 says

            America has been a history breaker since its inception.. The wall will be just another example.

          65. cristoiglesia says

            As far as people being willing to incarcerate themselves and pay for that incarceration in taxes you are correct that leftists see nothing wrong with such nonsense. We conservatives have a difficult time accepting such from a overbearing government.

          66. MAHB001 says

            Fear mongering. What a loser…

          67. cristoiglesia says

            What? Walls are designed and built to lock people within. History tells us that this is a common action of tyrants.

          68. MAHB001 says

            I don’t see Trump as a tyrant. Not sure how you have come to that conclusion.

          69. cristoiglesia says

            Obviously, to build that wall to incarcerate American citizens is the action of a tyrant. It reveals him to be no different than Hitler and Stalin in trying to control the actions and thoughts of those he governs. BTW, I am a history professor and I see him going down the same path as other tyrants in history. History is actually repeating itself and this reminds me of the rise of Hitler. I always questioned how Hitler could accomplish what he did and gain the support of the Germans. Watching Trump in real time doing the same things is truly intellectually fascinating for a historian like myself but at the same time frightening. I fear for our children.

          70. MAHB001 says

            Securing the border is the end goal. Not keeping people in. I see the biggest threat of the open border is an countless bank of illegal votes for the democrats to count.

            0bama had far more similarities to Hitler than Trump. 0bama lied to the people to get what he wanted, so did Hitler. 0bama vilified groups of people Christians as Extremists, Tea Party as Radical, and Republicans as Terrorists, hitler did the same to the Jews. I could go on.

            I don’t believe in revisionist history. I believe that America at its core is good, not evil.

          71. cristoiglesia says

            You do not seem to be very informed politically. Obama and Trump come from the same far left liberal mold. Both are far left lifetime liberal Democrat ideologues. They are actually very close friends and it was Trump who was responsible for Obama becoming POTUS. Trump used his influence as an insider in the Democrat Party to get Obama nominated and then gave the money for Obama’s campaign. After he got Obama elected he gloatingly announced tht Obama is a “great President”. He was very proud of his accomplishment. Contrary to the Trump nonsense illegal votes are not a real problem in America.



          72. MAHB001 says

            Again, Trumps ACTIONS are proving you wrong… You ignore Trumps current actions to make your statements.

            I wonder why you can’t see that?

            Your consistent anti Conservative posts make me think that you are ideologically subverted.

          73. cristoiglesia says

            Your reading comprehension is woefully compromised to the point I feel sorry for you. I have NEVER made an anti-conservative post in my life. You are a leftist liar.

          74. MAHB001 says

            Your assessment of my comprehension might be correct, but leftist
            liar??? That is where you are wrong, but from where you are standing,
            perhaps just about everyone is a leftist liar… .

          75. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, as I am very far to the political right.

          76. MAHB001 says

            If you are looking to the right, everybody else is behind you.

            You might want to consider that when insulting others.

          77. cristoiglesia says

            I have never, ever made an anti-conservative post. You are nothing more than a leftist like your Svengali Trump pretending to be a conservative Republican. God away, You are a waste of cyber ink.

          78. cristoiglesia says

            I have just as much dislike for Obama as I do for Trump. In fact, I put the whole cabal of Trump, Soros, Hillary and Obama in the same leftist ideological dung heap. They all conspired together to get America under control by the left and keeping that control. I cannot think of any world leader since Hitler that has wanted to incarcerate their people by walling them in. Of course Stalin did the same. It seems like Trump wants to join that group of world leaders by doing the same.

            As a professor of history I am also against revisionist history. History will not be kind to this leftist Trump.

          79. MAHB001 says

            To ignore the good that Trump has done so far only serves to divide and insert doubt where there was once none.

            Try to think about the wall this way… How many people are running towards Mexico??? Why would you think that Trump is building the wall to keep us in? What purpose does that serve? Other than to take down Trump…

            While I do agree with you that Elite Republicans = Elite Democrats = Elite MEDIA = Communist… ( you may not agree on the Communist part)

            I also think that Big Government = Communism.

            BUT I do not think that Trump is an elite Communist… I choose to believe that he will be good to his word and give the Country back to the people as he promised.

          80. cristoiglesia says

            He sure is plunging headlong in the wrong direction to accomplish what you claim is his goal.

          81. MAHB001 says

            Wrong direction?

          82. kbmiller says

            Stupido, that will NEVER happen.

          83. worn out 123 says

            Haven’t seen D.T. asking for tax increases. Just the opposite. Where did you hear this, MSN, CNN? I’ll let u know how I feel when I start paying a bill for the wall. Meantime, let’s see Mexico start supporting its own.

          84. cristoiglesia says

            Well then you have not been paying attention to his campaign. He promised to build a wall to isolate Americans from the rest of the world. That massive wall he speaks of will cost billions in tax dollars that will be raised from Americans. Then there is Trump’s promise of universal free healthcare for all Americans which will have an astronomical cost. Liberals like Trump think that money grows on trees and that people do not work for their money. To have the government take our hard earned dollars away for frivolous projects like the wall and free healthcare for all is a leftist like Trump’s fantasy and a conservatives nightmare.

          85. AKLady says

            There is intelligent life left on Earth.
            Thank you.

          86. MAHB001 says

            Your opinion is that the wall will prevent nothing. Just the threat of the wall and tougher enforcement of our sovereignty laws has done a lot.

            But those wall words will be backed up with action. Unlike most politicians, Trump is backing up his words with actions.

          87. mrpoohead says

            Good, he can pay for it then. His EO has nothing to enforce and he can’t make laws or policy – how’s it going to happen?

          88. MAHB001 says

            Nope, he is going to use Mrpoo money…

            Deal with it.

          89. mrpoohead says

            As I thought – you got nothing. Poor ol’ America, so poorly educated they know not how the country works. Very sad!

          90. MAHB001 says

            No, I would waist nothing on you… You are intellectually dishonest and I have decided that I will only post childish insults that you might understand. in response to your poo.

          91. mrpoohead says

            Do you need belt and braces with that waist? Childish insults is all you got, no facts and no substance – except around that waist. Ha, ha, ha!

          92. Bill Meyers says

            Haven’t seen to many facts in your posts.

          93. mrpoohead says

            Well my “history” is there, just for you – so knock yourself out.

          94. mrpoohead says

            Here you go to keep you going.

            America has worst social disparity and social mobility among its peers. Plus the worst healthcare and education systems. Our homicide rate is five to ten times there’s and we averaged a mass shooting per day in 2015 – W Europe et al together haven’t managed that many in the lifetime of the gun; wars excluded. Toilet of the world USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          95. AKLady says

            Childish insults combined with illiteracy.
            Wow, I am so impressed, but not they way you would like me to be..

          96. Bill Meyers says

            Nobody cares wether you’d impressed or not.

          97. AKLady says

            The “Ugly American”
            You seem to be the model for that label.
            Thank you. You made my point very clearly.

          98. Bill Meyers says

            And you are the model for a liberal retard. You all sound the same. No original thought in your entire brain, just the same old liberal verbiage, over and over.

          99. AKLady says

            Your ignorance is simply amazing.
            The “Ugly American”
            You seem to be the model for that label.
            Thank you. You made my point very clearly.

          100. cristoiglesia says

            Bill, it seems that it is time for a reality check for you…you are the one supporting the far left liberal Democrat ideologue Trump. That is sufficient proof tht you are a leftist Democrat as well.

          101. AKLady says

            Canada – US border 1,538 miles
            Canada – Alaska border 3,987 miles
            Mexico – US border 1,933 miles
            US Coastline 95,471 miles
            Alaska Coastline 6,640 miles
            Total exposure 109, 569 miles

          102. AKLady says

            The “wall” will cost the taxpayer money, it will prevent nothing.
            The majority of illegal aliens enter the U.S. quite legally.
            They simply stay when their visa expires.

          103. Janet says

            Mike, you have to remember that you will not be providing services for the people who would go across where the fence will be…that cost is more than many people make in a year because it includes housing, utilities, phones, food, medical, and some cash for living expenses. Sending many of them back will also reduce the budget for public assistance. Living in CA, I wish that the ranchers would get on their horses and heard them back across the border. Come here legally and I have no problem with anyone being here. Come in illegally and back you go. They continue to find tunnels and will have less need to be watching the actual border as there will be surveillance cameras and the wall, so more time can be searching for the tunnels and filling thim with concrete like they do. The tunnels are more the work of the Cartel and their drug runners, not illegals trying to cross the border.

          104. AKLady says

            How about the Native American NATIONS that cross that imaginary line?
            Are you going to deny them their right to rule their own country?

          105. Bill Meyers says

            Spoken like s true liberal. Your logic stumped me do I will change the subject to include native Americans.

          106. AKLady says

            No one changed the subject. No “logic”, just fact.

            I asked a question about countries that exist within the United States which cross the borders.

            That question applies to both the Mexican-America border and the Canada-American border.

            It took an Act of Congress in 1924 to grant members of Indian Nations U.S. citizenship.

          107. cristoiglesia says

            What ? Would you rephrase that in English so that you can be understood?

          108. cristoiglesia says

            It takes tens of thousands of dollars and more than 10 years to get permission to immigrate to the US legally. That means that only the rich will be able to immigrate. All we really need is immigration reform and the problem is solved without that ridiculous wall which is nothing less than a monument to American stupidity.

          109. worn out 123 says

            Illegal immigration is down some 40%. (What wall? Heh, heh!) He may not need quite as much wall, now.

          110. Mathew Molk says

            Is that why the wetback invasion is down 40%? That right there represents a massive saving.

          111. Mike says

            thank you for that racist comnent. I can always c on you to show off the low information undereducated trump voter.

          112. AKLady says

            Your racist insult is an embarrassment to America.

            The slur “wetback” categorizes Mexican immigrants as unequal, without real humanity, and undeserving of true dignity. It is the language used by some whites utilize to protect their dominant position in society at the expense of ethnic minorities.

          113. AKLady says


        2. cristoiglesia says

          Trump is the one working towards a dependent communist/socialist utopia. He is the most far left POTUS ever elected in America.

          1. MAHB001 says

            Bull… more fear mongering…

          2. cristoiglesia says


          3. Janet says

            Have you totally lost your mind? Hillary fits your description, not Trump.

          4. cristoiglesia says

            Were you really not paying attention in this election? Trump ran to the left of Hillary in this election on almost all policy issues. This is to be expected from Trump’s history as a lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue. He has no conservative or Republican credentials. Take a look at his closest friends which are the Obama’s and it was Trump who got Obama nominated when he was the primary Democrat insider and king maker. He then funded Obama’s campaign. After getting Obama elected he called him a “great President” and remained his strongest supporter. Trump ideologically makes Hillary look like a conservative. not only is trump friends with the Obama’s but also with the Clinton’s who were the guests of honor at Trump’s last wedding. Then there is the friendship of Trump with George Soros who saved Trump from personal bankruptcy in Chicago by forgiving 312 million in Trump’s defaulted loans so that Trump would not have to go personally bankrupt and would be able to run for POTUS. He ran for POTUS and won and the quid pro quo to Soros is to have almost the entirety of his cabinet appointments former Soros managers. Trump is simply the puppet of George Soros who bought the US presidency for a little over 300 million dollars.

          5. worn out 123 says

            He got a bargain then. Hillary paid more than twice that and got NADA. But, that was probably the fault of G.W.; or James Comey, or Obama, or the media, or Putin’s fault. Did I miss anyone?

          6. Mathew Molk says

            The pope

          7. Garry T says

            Ha Ha! The “dependent communist/socialist utopia,” was just voted out of office 3.5 months ago!

          8. cristoiglesia says

            It was replaced by the most far left lifetime liberal ideologue to ever get elected to POTUS. Remember that Trump ran to the left of Hillary in the election and still won.

          9. Garry T says

            Sorry, Liberals are on the left, Conservatives are on the right, Libertarians are to the right of center and the Tea Party are to the right of Conservatives. Trump ran as a Republican because of the 2 party system. Trump is more Libertarian. Hillary was and is as far left as Obama, which is why the American voters rejected her and her no policy, scandal flawed campaign. She might not have an illness, but she sure likes to drink!

          10. cristoiglesia says

            There is no ideological difference betweenTrump and Hillary. This was only a beauty contest where the beast was sure to win.

          11. Garry T says

            You’re right, the beast WAS supposed to win. But like I said her flawed, lying and epically expensive campaign just did not work in the Fly Over States she was supposed to win. She had no platform except that, “Trump Was Bad.” Now thanks to the VERY biased media, people like you MISTRUST the only guy in the world who has a shot at repairing the damage caused by the WORST President in American history.

          12. cristoiglesia says

            HUH??? Did you get so indoctrinated in public school that you think that only far left liberal Democrat ideologues can function well as POTUS. I am just curious as to how you came to believe such nonsense. But. what you said would explain why America just keeps electing far left liberal icons in every Presidential election and expect the next one to be different from the last. Just one question for you…Do you know the definition of insanity? If not look it up.

          13. Garry T says

            What the hell are you talking about? The far LEFT LIBERAL WAS CLINTON! Did you notice I paired the words, LEFT and LIBERAL TOGETHER and then wrote CLINTON? As far as I am concerned PRESIDENT Trump is neither Democrat or Republican, he is more along the lines of Libertarian. Clarify your indoctrinated opinion, so I can figure out what side you believe in!

          14. cristoiglesia says

            It seems as if you did not pay much attention to this election and the candidates involved. You certainly did not do any research. As soon as Trump announced that he was running for POTUS I started doing research on him as I knew of no Republican or conservative history of this person. I do not watch TV so I was not blinded by celebrity envy like so many nor was I influenced by his bloviating personality and demeanor. What became very clear withing just minutes was that he is and was a far left Northeast liberal lifetime Democrat ideologue. Then I looked into his associations and friendships and found his best friends to be the Clinton’s, the Obama’s and the Soros’. Also his friends consisted of despot, corrupt people like Jeffrey Epstein and found that they shared a love for very young girls which it turned out he shared this proclivity with Bill Clinton and it seemed to be their common bond.

            In my studies there was no evidence whatsoever of Trump ever being a libertarian, conservative or Republican or anything similar or comparable to being a conservative. None of his personal associations were with any conservatives or Republicans albeit he may have had some business relationships but I could not find any with anyone from the political right.

            Then came the campaign…being a priest I found that he was enthusiastically pro abortion and to the left of Hillary on this issue. He sang the praises of “Planned Parenthood” and spoke of expanding their government support and scope. He even wanted abortion to be a part of the Republican platform but the committee refused. So, he certainly was not in favor of this iconic Republican resistance to abortion. Then I looked at his positions on “gun control” and found that he had spoken out wanting a national registration of gun owners. To me, the only purpose of that would be to have a list of those owning guns so that they could be confiscated. Afterwards, I got even more curious and researched his positions on health care policy and found that he was enamored by the Canadian system of free healthcare for all and had clearly stated that universal healthcare should be the healthcare system of America with the Canadian system as the model. This was simply the precursor to socialized medicine. Certainly, none of these were or are conservative positions but from the far radical left. In fact his policy positions in the campaign were far to the left of even the consummate liberal’s Hillary and Bill.

            Next,suddenly and as if overnight, I found some of the Republican pundits switch from be skeptics of Trump to his most ardent supporters and the rhetoric from them changed. As if receiving an epiphany or whatever Rush and Hannity went from dubious cautious critics of Trump to his staunchest supporters. It was blatantly and embarrassingly obvious that they had been bought off. Around the same time, the NRA went from being a critic of Trump’s past statements on gun control into an organization supporting this anti-gun liberal and endorsed his candidacy. Glaringly, the only major political pundit on the right that was not bought off was Glenn Beck.

            Everything I could find about Trump pointed to him being a far left lifetime liberal Democrat. There was absolutely no evidence that could connect him to conservatism or the Republican party in even the most subtle way much less an illustrative way. In other words, if you were to produce a “pictionary” you would do well to have Trump’s picture with the word “liberal”. So what you are calling my “indoctrinated opinion’ is instead my studied opinion. My history is of being an unwavering far right conservative Republican. I have NEVER voted for a Democrat in my life and have never supported a lifetime or even casual Democrat to office. Trump’s supposed conservatism and Republicanism is a media created persona far from a historically or ideological supportable persona of being a lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue. It is a deceptive leftist media caricature of the True Donald Trump. IOW. The left has used your laziness for research and your celebrity envy to help you to deceive yourself. The only question I have in all of this subterfuge is I am curious as to how much Rush got paid to to do his flip-flop from conservative to consummate liberal. What I know now is that everyone has their price and to trust no one’s opinion. If you do not believe me then just do your own research. The evidence is very easy to find.

          15. Garry T says

            Great answer! But, depending on where GOOGLE sends you, the information you find can have it’s own bias. A great many people trust Snoops to get the “Truth,” but after just a few fact finding looks I dismissed them as not being credible.
            As I said, great answer, but….. you sure have a low opinion of anyone who is not you.

          16. cristoiglesia says

            Thank you for the comment on my answer to you…No, I just do not trust liberals who pretend to be conservatives. I was blessed with an inquisitive mind and am not trusting of people who suddenly claim an epiphany like Trump and do a 180 degree flop. From my research there is no doubt that he is a Trojan Horse whose intent is to destroy conservatism, the Republican Party and plunge America sharply and suddenly to the left. I am fearful of the persecution of conservatives under Trump which has already started in the cyber world and is sure to spread to real communities and cause the vilification of conservatives who have not capitulated to the left to support Trump. He has the promise of becoming the American Stalin. His followers will blindly do his bidding.

          17. Garry T says

            The Republican Party has destroyed itself over the last 12 to 15 years. When was the last balanced budget? Why are there so many RINO’s in the Republican Party voting along Democratic Party lines? Why all the saber rattling against Obama, and now the same for Trump? Why are the Liberal Left Protesters, Actors, MSM and States loosing their collective minds over the 2016 election?
            Your arguments fall apart when there is not ONE Liberal Leftist in the country who doesn’t want him Impeached or Killed since November 9th, 2016! Or, since you don’t watch TV, are you not aware of the NON STOP civil disobedience, AKA, Rioting by the LEFT since the election?
            Your opinion seems very one sided. Which of the OTHER 16 Republican candidates in the primaries would have been better? And, could that candidate have defeated Clinton, or awakened the Conservative voters enough to put the MSM in the place it deserves to be….. the realm of FAKE NEWS?

          18. cristoiglesia says

            I really do not think that there are very many Republicans voting for Democrats but instead are trying their best to vote for those that share their values and goals for America. Unfortunately the candidates running have all been to the left of the political spectrum. If you look at the Republican candidates in the last election there was only one conservative running for nomination and that was Ted Cruz and he crumbled before Donald Trump’s assaults against his wife and family and eventually became a lackey for the far left ideologue Trump. Since then he has totally capitulated to the left and abandoned conservatism. As a result, he could not be elected as dog catcher in Texas and will be reduced in the next election to being an ambulance chaser to make a living unless some Democrat gives him a job in government. People in Texas do not respect men who refuse to defend their wives and fathers even more than liberals like Trump. Remember, the king of the RINO’s was the Republican candidate and was elected.

            In this last election the only voting choices were along Democrat lines. All of the candidates for POTUS were leftists. It would be very hard to decide for any rational person which of the candidates were the furthest to the left. There simply was no choice unless one wrote in a conservative and most of them are now in hiding from the wrath of the leftist Trump. No one dare reveal themselves as a conservative now days. I cannot say for certain that there are any left besides myself. The liberals have always been out of their collective minds.

            I agree that there has been a lot of effort by the media whether left or right leaning to use the fact that both the left and the right are now led by far left liberal ideologues. We have become a one party country and more resemble the Soviet system of politics than the Democratic system we purport to be. It is now more of a beauty contest and both candidates in this election were beasts with not a beauty between them.

            Actually, any conservative candidate nominated by the Republican party could have beat Hillary and by a much wider margin than die the leftist Trump. We simply had no ideological choice in this election except between two far left liberal ideologues. Personally, I think that people should stop watching the pundits who in this election flopped around like fish out of water and had a collective love fest over these leftist candidates. Conservatives need to get serious about changing the direction of the country instead of voting and supporting only leftists for POTUS because then we are essentially a one party system with no ideological soul but the depravity of liberalism. God help America. America keeps acting insanely by electing nothing but liberal candidates and each time expecting a different result.

          19. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, you point out the fact that one needs to be very careful with their research and verify what they find. One has to separate the opinion from the verifiable facts. I guess being a history professor helps in my perspective and approach to research. I am always the skeptic. Their friendships and relationships is a great key. When studying the early Church history around the time of the Emperor Constantine I found how important relationships were to changing history. If it was not for the persistence of the lowly teenage Deacon Athanasius, Contantine’s friend Arius would have inspired Constantine to adopt Arianism and Christianity would have died. But at the Council convened to adopt Arianism for the Empire the lowly deacon Athanasius gave such a inspired defense of Christianity that the Emperor or Arius could not overcome the facts and logic presented by this inspired teenager. Today, Arianism remains to be alive among groups like the Iglesia ni Cristo and the Jehovah Witnesses but will never replace Christianity as God’s will and inspired truth for all who truly follow Christ. If Christianity can find a champion to inspire them then conservatism will find a champion to defeat this charlatan and Svengali Trump who lies so egregiously in thought word and deed.

          20. Garry T says

            Hence, your user name….. Iglesia ni Cristo ?

          21. cristoiglesia says

            Well, not exactly…the Iglesia ni Cristo is an Arian group in the Philippines that actually have more members than the other Arian group more common in the US called Jehovah Witnesses. I have no affiliation with either of these groups but am a Catholic Christian rather than an Arian. It is common for me to speak out against this Arian group because their primary prey is Catholic Christians. “Cristoiglesia” is actually Latin for “Christ’s Church” which describes the origin of the Catholic Church as being directly founded by Jesus. I am a convert to the Catholic Church having been a “Moravian” Protestant which is the oldest of the Protestant sects. After serving in the Marine Corps in Vietnam (“67-“68) in the 3rd Marine Division based at Khe Sahn, I completed my education at two Protestant Seminaries…Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary Mdiv and Duke Divinity PhD (Religious Studies) a Methodist Seminary. The Moravian Seminary is in Pennsylvania and being a North Carolinian by birth I preferred to get my education in North Carolina. My first job out of Seminary was as a Bible translator for Wycliffe translating the Koine Greek New Testament into modern Aramaic. I met my wife in Saudi Arabia while doing this translation. She is a Filipina and I traveled with her to the Philippines to take a break from my translation as it was almost finished. While there I fell in love with the Philippines and the Pinoy people. I applied for a job there in the Seminary in Manila and was hired even though I was a Protestant at a Jesuit Seminary because of my Latin skills. I later also taught Early Church history and Patristics. When John Paul II was Pope he allowed married men to come into the priesthood and I took advantage of this to become a priest.

          22. cristoiglesia says

            There is no ideological difference between the Donald and Hillary. These two sharing decades long friendship have the same political ambitions and beliefs. They are both far left lifetime liberal Democrats. Don’t believe me but do your own research and you will find that they are each the polar opposites of conservatives. What I believe in is simply conservative values and ideology. That should be obvious since I oppose leftists like the Donald and Hillary so voraciously.

          23. worn out 123 says

            Ridiculous! We were the borderless, drifting, welfare state under socialist/communist Obama administration. Anyone who purports to ignore a Russian Ambassador after he visited the WH. 22 times under Obama and is on a first name basis with several democrat congressmen and women, is STUPID. Since you would suggest this; if the hat fits wear it.

        3. AKLady says

          Grow up.
          You are both ignorant and childish.

      2. cristoiglesia says

        You are 100% correct. Trump’s entire presidency is about getting the American populace dependent on government for everything. IOW the leftist dream is being perpetrated by Trump and most conservatives are blinded by his celebrity status. It is all about the control of the average American by getting them totally dependent on government. Trump is dreaming of a socialist utopia as do all leftists like Trump.

      3. MAHB001 says

        Fear monger. The wall will pay for itself.

        1. cristoiglesia says

          You cannot be that ignorant or deceived by this charlatan Trump.

          1. Mike says

            No he truly can be. The ability of the Trump sheeple to ignore facts is truly unprecedented.

          2. Donna Costa says

            Blow it out your ass!!

          3. Mike says

            as always the insults come from the Sheeple. this shows the weakness of their argument.

          4. worn out 123 says

            Well, one sure way for socialists to win an election is to have two socialists run against one another. Right?

          5. Mathew Molk says

            It’s in the best seller book about voting for the Marxists that claim to be democrats.

          6. Mathew Molk says

            Stock Market up
            Illegals coming into teh country down.
            Businesses not leaving, and in fact are coming back from overseas.

            Hows that for the start of an argument snowflake?

          7. worn out 123 says

            Wow! Take it easy, Lady! You’ll have a stroke.

          8. Bill Meyers says

            Not at all you liberals followed obama without thought. It was like he was playing the magic flute and you liberals followed him anywhere.

          9. kbmiller says

            You Lib TURDS are BRTAINDEAD

          10. cristoiglesia says

            I do not know Mike but from his posts he appears to be far from being a leftist. At least he does not support Trump as most of the leftist today practice.

          11. Mathew Molk says

            More unadulterated bullshit from a NWO Marxist useful idiot.

            Don’t you get it. You assholes lost,,,big time.

          12. Mike says

            yes congratulations you were able to elect a conman who is only concerned about himself and his billionaire friends.

          13. cristoiglesia says

            That is woefully apparent. Most of them are of low IQ and poorly educated. I truly feel sorry for them allowing themselves to be deceived in this way. Many claim to be lacking the skill to do research on the internet. It is my experience that many of them have compromised IQ’s. I actually feel sorry for many of them who do not have the ability to understand the differences in ideologies. Some have been so uninformed that they think that Trump shares their conservative ideology and has not been a far left liberal Democrat ideologue in the recent past.

          14. cristoiglesia says

            Indeed, it is as if they do not want the truth but seek out nonsense to support their fantasies about this far left liberal Democrat Trump.

          15. bjpurg says

            You germansmith are the ones who has been ignorant AND deceived for the last eight years snowflake!

          16. Bill Meyers says

            No he isn’t but it appears you are that ignorant. Be real, these aren’t your thoughts and ideas they are the party line.

          17. cristoiglesia says

            What are you ranting about? I have always been a far right conservative ideologue. I am the exact opposite of the leftist Trump who ran to the left of Hillary in this election. My party, the Republican Party is now having to face the fact that the Republican party is led by the most far left liberal POTUS in history. We conservatives will fight him in every way we can. We will not give up our party or our conservatism to capitulate to the left as you have obviously done along with people like Ted Cruz. You can steal my party but never my thoughts or allegiances.

          18. worn out 123 says


          19. Mathew Molk says

            That’s what useful idiots do, isn’t it?

          20. worn out 123 says

            No tax increase.

          21. cristoiglesia says

            I hope you are not being serious. Building the wall will result in a tremendous tax increase. As my mother used to say, “money does not grow on trees” and no one is going to build that ridiculous wall for free. When you add the cost of free heath care promised by Trump some have said that taxes may increase as much s 60%.

          22. MAHB001 says

            You make me laugh, You of all people calling someone ignorant.

            Coming from someone that was deceived by the charlatan 0bama…

          23. cristoiglesia says

            HUH? I am a lifetime conservative Republican and have no love or respect for leftists like Obama, the Clinton’s, the Soros’ or the Trumps. They are all of the same leftist cabal. As a conservative I have no dog in this fight.

          24. MAHB001 says

            I guess I am that ignorant then. Just thought you were another liberal starting out with insults. So I reacted in kind.

            Trump has kept his word and has done far more for America in 50 days than the last one did in eight years.

            Why the hate? Why do you fear Trump?

          25. cristoiglesia says

            Well I certainly do not hate Trump but feel about him the same I do about all leftists. Trump is a special kind of leftist pretending to be a Republican and a conservative after a lifetime being a far left liberal Democrat ideologue. He campaigned as a leftist but called himself a Republican conservative and that did not invoke trust on my part.

            So, I decided to study Trump’s history in depth. What I found was a rather transparent attempt at deceit in getting people to believe that he has changed from the leftist he was to a Republican conservative but he acted like a leftist pretending to be a caricature of a conservative and that was not really convincing to a conservative like myself. I am actually praying that he will not keep his word and continue being the charlatan he has been his entire despotic life. I dislike him for his deceit against those who believe him and trust him and are so deceived by his celebrity status that they will believe any ridiculous thing he says or does. Most of his supporters have done no research on him and do not know that his entire history is of being a far left liberal Democrat ideologue and Democrat insider and king maker. He gloated for getting Obama nominated to run for POTUS and bragged that it was his money that got Obama elected. He then very proudly called Obama a “Great President”. I disagree with almost everything that Trump says and does. He is a totally despicable human being. I pray every day that he does not turn the country to the political left as he promises with word and action. If I was a leftist Democrat I would love Trump but as a conservative Republican that I am…not so much.

          26. MAHB001 says

            I do not believe your analysis, as Trumps words and actions do not support it. I do know others that hold your point of view. I don’t understand them either.

            The way I look at it, there is a 50/50 shot at Trump being what you say he is. And if he is, we are scr3wed.

            There was a 10,000% chance of losing the Republic to communism if Hillary got in office. I understand odds, and there really wasn’t a choice.

            At this point your rhetoric only serves to divide Conservatives, which is ALWAYS a win for the left.

            The past is past, God forgives, so…. I am giving Trump the benefit of doubt, until his ACTIONS do not correlate with his words. Everybody is watching him.

            Many high profile people started out as leftists but “found the light.”


            As a conservative Republican, you have endured far worse than Trump. Just don’t get it. And I don’t understand as a Conservative Republican you can find anything wrong with his acceptance or inauguration speeches. Both put the elites on notice. Unless you are an elite.

          27. cristoiglesia says

            I might agree that many of his “words” do not match his ideology but his “actions” always do. He has no problem prevaricating to get what he wants. In that way he is like a spoiled leftist child. The fact that he has been a far left liberal Democrat Ideologue his whole life before becoming POTUS makes his words and actions suspect. He really relates very poorly to lifetime conservative Republicans like myself. I just do not trust his sudden change and becoming a Republican candidate after a lifetime as a Leftist Democrat of the worse kind. As far as percentages go I would give him no more than a 10% chance of now capitulating to the right and being a conservative Republican. Trump is actually a bigger threat than Hillary would have ever been.

            It is Trump’s rhetoric that is divisive and not mine. I just recognize the result of his rhetoric because of my firm lifetime of being a far right Republican. Republicans are better off divided when threatened by a pretender like Trump. Trump remains the leftist he has always been.

          28. MAHB001 says

            Prevaricating… What a wonderful word… Kudos.

            I agree Trump must be watched closely. In the beginning I viewed Trump exactly the way you do right now. I was convinced Trump was a Trojan horse.Trumps ability to prevaricate troubled me, because 0bama was the master of prevaricating and 0s words always turned out to be lies..

            It could be Trump started out as a Trojan Horse, but I believe the election process changed him. He even said so himself. I recall a speech where Trump said that this may be the only way he can get to heaven. He talked about it being a movement.

            God works in mysterious ways. Imagine how many times God has been faced with the last second prayers of life long atheist of “God, please forgive me.”

            My point is, people change. Trump is a person, and right now, we have got to place our trust in God as He is in control. God has the wisdom to know if Trump’s heart has changed.

            What we have to do is make sure the power and corrosive nature of the cesspool in DC doesn’t derail our MOVEMENT.

          29. cristoiglesia says

            Yes, we must know our friends as conservatives but even more importantly we must recognize our enemies. Liberalism and leftists are our enemies. They have co-opted our party and it is hard to know who to trust with the enemies within our gates.There is no one to defend us from the Trojan Horse candidate Trump whose goal is to destroy conservatism and the Republican party from within. WE must be individually vigilant.

          30. MAHB001 says

            Agreed, I have become so cynical in the last eight years that I hardly recognize myself. I quite often do not recognize my enemies, and trust is something of the past… Very sad.

            We must stay diligent and constantly check the shadows. The enemy is within.


            I would love your opinion on this.

          31. cristoiglesia says

            I do not have time now to give it the attention it deserves but I will try to get back to you about it when I get a chance.

          32. MAHB001 says

            Thank you. God Bless

          33. cristoiglesia says

            Did yu forget that Trump is POTUS now?

          34. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Worst Failed incompetent disgraceful low life X Presidenbr evaaaaaa!!
            8 years of lies and corruption~~~~ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/17703b5e1ce479403120192034c5ab45142279ba18e2a8fe0409f6c6affc94e7.jpg

          35. cristoiglesia says

            I am quite confident that Trump will well surpass Obama as the worst POTUS ever.

          36. GODBlessRealAmerica! says
          37. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            You ever feel stupid? Democrackheaded? Hateful and liberal….

            Hey loser it aint workin


          38. cristoiglesia says

            It is you that is supporting the most far left liberal to ever become POTUS and not I. The Donald and the Clinton’s are the best of friends and that friendship is sealed by their common leftist ideology. In actuality, Trump is to the left of the Clinton’s ideologically and will govern as the leftist he has always been. Do yourself a favor and research his political history. As of now your ignorance of Trump’s past is making you look like an idiot.

          39. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            Your an idiot look at your low energy Liberal posts pathetic I dont blame you I blame whoever raised your ignorant ass you need help!!!!!

            Now go protest and spread you’re liberal hate!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76ec66c853be353a39f9eee200fc97a5c3a7028c56c42eabf1cc9e7f92d838b4.png

          40. cristoiglesia says

            I am a lifetime far right conservative Republican you idiot. Reality check for you and your ignorance. Trump is a lifetime far left liberal Democrat ideologue and the best friends of the Clinton’s. Trump has no conservative history at all but has been consistently on the left. If you support Trump that illustrates that it is you whom is the leftist Democrat scum. You are the poster child for ignorance being bliss.

          41. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            thank you America we got a great PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS TRUMP WE WON THE Liberal thugs are angry, hateful and ignorant!!! Once a liberal loser always one ha ha ha ha https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f4ee92a6ca7cad98d865c6a776784c64910ae2fe49ef9e528e52011619f86d8.jpg

          42. cristoiglesia says

            I have enough problems to deal with in my own party without worrying about how Obama is deceiving people in his. I have no idea what you are ranting about me being deceived by Obama. I could not care less about Obama and have enough to worry about with those of my own party capitulating to the far left lifetime liberal Democrat Trump. Insanity has taken over the politics of America. People are mesmerized by the celebrity of Trump and ignore his ideological history. This election is proof tht the dumbing down of America is complete by the left. We conservatives will have to hunker down to rise again and resurrect our party from the ashes of destruction done by this charlatan and Trojan Horse POTUS Trump.

          43. MAHB001 says

            I don’t deal with hypocrites and liars well.

      4. kbmiller says

        Do you lock your doors at night or when you go out, behind you? WHY? Tell Mexico and Guatemala, etc. that we’re going to empty our prisons or their convicted criminals and send them back. If they don’t take them, no foreign aid. If they come back, life sentences at military prisons and put on hard labor. The $ saved there and on the free health care, housing, medical care for Americans addicted to the illegal drugs coming through etc. will pay for the wall. It’s time for Tough Love, like a parent finally saying “NO” to a spoiled child.

      5. Garry T says

        Germansmith…. The cost of ILLEGAL Immigration, to the USA is around $113 MILLION a year to the Feds and State government in 2013 figures. More $$$$ now since we haven’t had a border the past 4 years. http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers So with the wall, the 40% decrease in ILLEGAL immigration since Trump was elected, and getting rid of the CRIMINAL element of the illegals that $23 billion dollar wall will have a very positive return on investment. Give or take some tears!

    3. Obie Miller says

      You said it exactly right, MAHBOO1!