Scientists Turn on Bill Nye for Reasons Having Nothing to Do With Science

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You won’t find us regularly defending Bill Nye, the Science Guy, who has made a second career for himself as a fixture on the cable news circuit, where he takes potshots at conservatives, carries water for the climate change agenda, and generally disparages anyone who departs from the liberal view of the world.

But this week proved that even the most dedicated warriors for the leftist agenda are not safe from the rabid wolves of extreme progressivism. Merely for having the audacity to show up at President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address on Tuesday, Nye is taking it on the chin from a group of activist scientists.

In an open letter published in Scientific American this week, a group calling themselves “500 Women Scientists” said that Nye had cast his lot with the wrong crowd:

Tonight, Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will accompany Republican Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), Trump’s nominee for NASA Administrator, to the State of the Union address. Nye has said that he’s accompanying the Congressman to help promote space exploration, since, he asserts, “NASA is the best brand the United States has” and that his attendance “should not be … seen as an acceptance of the recent attacks on science and the scientific community.”

But by attending the SOTU as Rep. Bridenstine’s guest, Nye has tacitly endorsed those very policies, and put his own personal brand over the interests of the scientific community at large. Rep. Bridenstine is a controversial nominee who refuses to state that climate change is driven by human activity, and even introduced legislation to remove Earth sciences from NASA’s scientific mission. Further, he’s worked to undermine civil rights, including pushing for crackdowns on immigrants, a ban on gay marriage, and abolishing the Department of Education.

As scientists, we cannot stand by while Nye lends our community’s credibility to a man who would undermine the United States’ most prominent science agency. And we cannot stand by while Nye uses his public persona as a science entertainer to support an administration that is expressly xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, ableist, and anti-science.

This is an eye-opening essay, and it’s not because it says anything revelatory or even truthful about Bill Nye. Nor is it worth reading due to its demonstration that liberals eat their own – we already were well aware of that.

No, this is a must-read because it shows the degree to which leftist ideology has infected mainstream science. Nye is as much a problem in this regard as anyone, but he usually doesn’t come right out and just…say it…the way these women do. What the hell does illegal immigration, gay marriage, or even civil rights have to do with science? How does one’s position on any of these topics reflect on their ability to be an ambassador for astronomy? Or for the scientific community in general?

If there is a problem with science today, it is the same (not unrelated) problem that we have on today’s college campuses. Soft, squishy concepts like racism and the various “phobias” are being thrown around with the same authority as hard scientific theories. The true sciences have been taken over by the soft sciences. Moral relativism has crept into the one domain where there must be only ONE truth. How many scientific doors have been slammed shut – not because the hypotheses behind them have been proven irrevocably wrong, but because they are too politically incorrect?

“Scientists are people, and in today’s society, it is impossible to separate science at major agencies like NASA from other pressing issues like racism, bigotry, and misogyny,” the women write.

It is not only possible to separate science from those issues, it should be our mandate to do so. Facts are facts, no matter how uncomfortable they may be. When you publicly slaughter a lamb for straying too far from the flock, you are sealing shut the very doors of inquiry that have formed the entire foundation of modern science.

526 Comments
  1. Bill O'Neil says

    The author says, “facts are facts, no matter how uncomfortable they may be”. Tell that to tRump and his henchmen when they try to replace facts with lies by saying global warming and climate change are all a hoax.

    1. Retired says

      If you think it is not a hoax, TURN OFF your electricity – gas – and sell your car .

      1. gotabgood says

        Nuclear power provides about one-fifth of U.S. electricity
        Renewable energy sources provide 15% of U.S. electricity

        1. mac12sam12 says

          You need coal for nuclear power. What would you think of a solar thermostat? That’s something to consider!

          1. gotabgood says

            I admit, I know nothing about nuclear power plants….. ut I sure ain’t buying your crap about them needing coal..

          2. mac12sam12 says

            What did you think they ran on, magical liberal fairy dust? It sounds like you know nothing about it. https://www.quora.com/Do-any-US-power-plants-use-clean-coalhttps://www.quora.com/Do-any-US-power-plants-use-clean-coal

          3. whoselineisitanyway says

            Your response showed up in my in box.
            GOTABGOOD IS A PAID SOROS TROLL
            BLOCK HIM/HER/IT
            every chance you get
            communist p.o.s.

          4. gotabgood says

            No… It runs on nuclear rods that give off tremendous amount of heat which heats water into steam which turns turbines…. where does coal fit into the picture.
            And your webpage is a lot like you….empty..
            Page Not Found
            We searched everywhere but couldn’t find the page you were looking for.
            Go Back · Quo

          5. Robert Dostoevsky says

            I’ve seen a nuclear power plant and there was no coal. Please explain why you claim coal is required.

          6. Mathew Molk says

            Got ya one better. I have worked in Nuck plants and my youngest Son still works on them during shutdowns…..No coal….Carbon blocks OK, Petro chemicals and diesel back up generators, Yes, but no coal. (We both have been on fossil fuel projects too just for the record.- Lots of coal on some of them)

          7. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Thanks Mr. Molk, I noticed that mac…had no answer. I know Nuclear plants have back up generating systems to provide power to the plant but these small systems do not duplicate the power output of the plant.
            Why mac… thinks coal is necessary is only known to him.

          8. mac12sam12 says

            Some plants are coal powered.

          9. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Since you said some, name 3 and describe how they are coal powered. You have a habit of making statements without any proof of expkanation.

        2. Retired says

          How Brilliant !!!

        3. pstreet says

          And morons like you spew 100% of the indoctrinated lies and idiocy.

      2. Bill O'Neil says

        I’m sure I’ve done more to balance my carbon footprint than you have.

        1. Retired says

          Only if you did all three and stopped farting your BS !!!

        2. pstreet says

          Walk to work, bathe once a month, eat grass and wipe with your fingers? Go to bed at sunset, eat cold food and go naked.
          If all that then I believe you.

          1. whoselineisitanyway says

            For some reason I received the post by you in response to “Retired”.
            Just so you know:
            I think “climate change”, is real.
            IT’S CALLED NATURE.
            NYE IS A FRAUD

          2. gotabgood says

            No…. volcano eruptions….. lightening caused forest fires…. those are nature..
            Coal burning power plants world wide and cars, trains, planes, ships, cutting down of trees at the tune of 2 million a day
            Heating and cooling of homes/office buildings, black top and cement roads across the world.. those are all man made and they are causing global warming

          3. mac12sam12 says

            The oceans give off a lot of CO2. Should we drain the ocean? Here’s another one you won’t or can’t answer. The climate changed before man was on Earth so what changed the climate then?

          4. Mathew Molk says

            Again. It was dinosaur farts. Just ask Bill Nye

          5. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Oceans absorb more carbon dioxide than they give off.

          6. mac12sam12 says

            Ducking the question quack quack. What cause the climate to change before man was on Earth?

            Drain the evil oceans! https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/evil-oceans-produce-16-times-as-much-co2-as-humans/

          7. Robert Dostoevsky says

            I didn’t care to join the climate discussion, I just wanted to clarify your first statement.

          8. gotabgood says

            You don’t get it YET!!!
            What is natural existed before man and exists today. What has never existed is what man manufactures and responsible for… how old is the earth? Whatever age you decide, nature has existed right along side of it.
            What is new is man and his interventions, called the industrial revolution…GAME CHANGER for our environment.

          9. mac12sam12 says

            In other words man is just along for the ride, and raising my taxes and implementing more regulation will not control the climate.

            You shuck and jive.

          10. mac12sam12 says
          11. Mathew Molk says

            Sounds like a moslem(sic) thing

        3. mac12sam12 says

          You’ve stopped eating foods that make you fart?

    2. mac12sam12 says

      It is a hoax. You want to send trillions to underdeveloped countries over a myth?

      The climate has always changed even before man was on Earth, so when man wasn’t on Earth, what changed the climate?

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        No doubt you also think the earth is only 6000 years old, which explains why you are afraid to study up on actual science of global warming etc.

        1. mac12sam12 says

          Study the actual science, study this, Cletus. How will raising taxes control the climate, question two, the climate was changing before man was on Earth, so what change the climate when there was no human beings? crickets..crickets..

          1. Mathew Molk says

            How’s this one. It’s not nice to fool with mother nature. FLASH! BOOM!

            Even the commercials years ago were better. Entertaining even. Mr. Wizard had things that were real and you could do yourself too.

            Bill Nye, I hope your show dies.

        2. mac12sam12 says

          Do you think that Al Gore is telling you the truth about the rising oceans when he buys a $9 million dollar villa on the coast? Liberals are such pigeons for fairy tails. http://worldpropertyjournal.com/featured-columnists/celebrity-homes-column-al-gore-tipper-gore-oprah-winfrey-michael-douglas-christopher-lloyd-fred-couples-nicolas-cage-peter-reckell-kelly-moneymaker-2525.php

      2. Mathew Molk says

        Dinosaur farts. – It’s a scientific fact,,,,,,as solid as global warming.

        1. mac12sam12 says

          I thought so! Thank you!

    3. pstreet says

      How does it feel to be a gullible moron and useful idiot who spews asinine indoctrinated idiocy in public?

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        Spoken like a trained Koch brothers boot licker.

        1. mac12sam12 says

          Nazi Soros.

    4. BadInPublic says

      You, sir, demonstrate the true virtues of being a fool. Blind to the truth and not wanting to hear the truth.

  2. MILES E DRAKE says

    These “scientists” are bigger frauds than the “Science Guy”, who is in fact a children’s TV actor who wears a lab coat rather than a clown suit to ply his trade. The “500 Woman Scientists” are really 500 angry feminists who may or may not have masters’ degrees and eat ice cream out of the carton while sitting alone and watching MSNBC. The “women scientists” are really auditioning for jobs as torturers and designers of bombs and surveillance equipment in the real-life Oceania that the party of Marx, Mohammed and Mexico intends to establish under Big Activist Bitch after the legitimately-elected President of the United States is overthrown.

    1. RobertNorwood says

      Exactly, and actor, fraud in a lab coat nails it. He has a background in mechanical engineering, nothing more. These so-called “500 Woman Scientists” are exactly as you put it. In the 15th Century they would’ve condemned Galileo. If they are scientists how can they say in all honesty that climate change is “driven” by human activity? If it is, how do we explain past shifts? Do we contribute? Certainly we as does every other mammal on the planet. The term “driven” creates a false belief. You can’t build science on that.
      Nye now knows, courtesy of these “women” what enemies of totalitarian regimes felt like in one of their kangaroo courts. You are guilty and condemned before you even show up. I’m happy for him. Stay tuned, these women will no doubt demand that Nye’s shows be dropped.

      1. jimmy midnight says

        They would’ve been DEFENDING Galileo, who was brutally, was it fatally? oppressed by the hidebound conservatives of his time, 4 going all evidence-based. The notion that Human activity is driving the extreme-ization of our weather is also evidence-based. It starts with the fact that various gasses have widely differing heat capacities, something that was known back in the 19th Century, B 4 post-modernists, at least as U would tell the story, politicized the entire academic world.

        Nye will move on, and my guess is these ladies, having spoken out when and how they wanted, will return 2 their day-to-days until they feel compelled to talk again, likely when some well-known individual from a scientific field, does something they see as worth protesting.

        Nye/Was the guest of an anti-science guy.

        1. Tired... says

          Science is built on questioning the status quo, challenging the reining “truth” of the day. If you have read many of the quotes on this page, many people agree that the climate changes, what they don’t agree with is the extreme view of the climate change religionists who want everyone to bow down to them. Much like the Catholic Church in Galileo’s day, climate change religionists only want their voices to be heard, which is why they resort to the same tactics of using the political system to silence those who hold different views. One of the key phrases that climate change religionists use to silence differing points of view is to label them as “anti-science” so that they can, in their minds at least, lay exclusive claim to authority. Unfortunately these “500 women scientists” have more in common with the Catholic Church of Galileo’s day than they do with Galileo.

          1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

            True statement. Eliminate the money & you eliminate the idiology.
            If you have a festering sore. Do you just put a bandaid on it or fo you eliminate the cause.
            If humans cause the climate problem, then eliminate the people. Problem solved. Its all about sucking money out of peoples pockets.

      2. Mathew Molk says

        Nothing more? – Them’s fightin words in my circles. We can get things done and build things that make the world better and raise the standard of living and we have to earn our own keep or get sent down the road.

        “Scientists” can only tear down what we build with lies and are supported by the work of others. – I never had to back up to the pay window because I was ashamed to show my face for taking the money under false pertinences.

      3. pineapple says

        NEARLY DOOMED BY TOO LITTLE CO2

        By
        Paul Driessen

        on
        July 4, 2017

        Uncategorized

        Aside from protests by Al Gore, Leonardo Di Caprio and friends, the
        public didn’t seem to raise its CO2 anguish much above the
        Russians-election frenzy when Trump exited the Paris Climate Accords.

        Statistician Bjorn Lomborg had already pointed out that the Paris CO2
        emission promises would cost $100 trillion dollars that no one has, and
        make only a 0.05 degree difference in
        Earth’s 2100 AD temperature. Others say perhaps a 0.2 degree C (0.3
        degrees F) difference, and even that would hold only in the highly
        unlikely event that all parties actually kept their voluntary pledges.

        What few realize, however, is that during the last Ice Age too little CO2
        in the air almost eradicated mankind. That’s when much-colder water in
        oceans (that were 400 feet shallower than today) sucked most of the
        carbon dioxide from the air; half of North America, Europe and Asia were
        buried under mile-high glaciers that obliterated everything in their
        paths; and bitterly cold temperatures further retarded plant growth.

        In fact, Earth’s atmosphere had only about 180 parts per million CO2,
        compared to today’s 400 ppm: 0.018% then versus 0.040% today.

        The Ice Age’s combined horrors –
        intense cold, permanent drought and CO2 starvation – killed most of the
        plants on Earth. Only a few trees survived, in the mildest climates. Much
        of the planet’s grass turned to tundra, which is much less nourishing
        to the herbivores prehistoric humans depended on for food and fur.
        Recent Cambridge University studies conclude that only about 100,000
        humans were left alive worldwide when the current interglacial warming
        mercifully began.

        The few surviving prey animals had to keep migrating to get enough
        food. That forced our ancestors to migrate with them, in temperatures
        that routinely fell to 40 degrees below zero (both Fahrenheit and
        Celsius). The Neanderthals had been living in relatively warm caves
        protected from predators by fires at the cave mouths. They had hunted
        their prey by sneaking through the trees – which no longer existed. They
        apparently couldn’t adapt, and starved. Cambridge found no evidence of
        genocidal warfare.

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        The most successful human survivors – who provided most of the DNA
        for modern Europeans – were nomads from the Black Sea region. The
        Gravettians had never had trees, so they invented mammoth-skin tents,
        held up by salvaged mammoth ribs. They also developed spear-throwers, to
        kill the huge beasts from a safe distance.

        Equally important, Gravettians domesticated and bred wolves, to
        protect their tents from marauders, locate game animals on the broad
        tundra, and harry the prey into defensive clusters for easier killing.
        The scarcity of food in that Glacial Maximum intensified the dogs’
        appreciation for the bones and bone marrow at the human camps.

        When that Ice Age ended, moreover, CO2 changes didn’t lead the
        warming. The atmospheric CO2 only began to recover about 800 yearsafter the warming started.

        Carbon dioxide truly is “the gas of life.” The plants that feed us
        and wildlife can’t live without inhaling CO2, and then they exhale the
        oxygen that lets humans and animals keep breathing.

        Our crop plants evolved about 400 million years ago, when CO2 in the
        atmosphere was about 5000 parts per million! Our evergreen trees and
        shrubs evolved about 360 million years ago, with CO2 levels at about
        4,000 ppm. When our deciduous trees evolved about 160 million years ago,
        the CO2 level was about 2,200 ppm – still five times the current level.

        There’s little danger to humans of too much CO2 in the air they
        breathe. Even the Environmental Protection Agency says 1000 ppm is the
        safe limit for lifetime human exposure. Space shuttle CO2 alarms are set at 5,000 ppm, and the alarm in nuclear submarines is set at 8,000 ppm!

        If there’s little danger of humans having too much CO2 in their air,
        and a real danger to civilization from having too little, what’s the
        ideal level of atmospheric CO2? The answer? There’s a broad safe range –
        with far more risk of too little than too much. At low levels, with few
        or no plants, there’d be no people or animals, let alone civilization.

        Human numbers, moreover, expanded strongly during the Holocene
        Optimum, with temperatures 4 degrees C higher than today! Even now,
        residents of the tropics keep demonstrating that humans can tolerate
        much higher temperatures than most of us experience. (As we utilize the
        new malaria vaccine, the tropics will prosper even more.) And far more
        people die from “too cold” than from “too warm.”

        The crops continue to produce record yields in our “unprecedented”
        warming – and the extra CO2 in our air is credited with as much as 15%
        of that yield gain!

        It’s not whether more CO2 in the air raises Earth’s temperatures. We
        know it does, by some small but still hotly debated amount. Both sides
        agree that a redoubling of CO2 in the air – by itself – would raise
        earth’s temperature by only about 1 degree C.

        That’s hardly noticeable or measurable in the midst of all the local
        temperature variations, with the myriad of natural forces that govern
        planetary climate, with all the discrepancies among the various
        measuring systems, and amid all the errors, biases and missing or
        revised data that have crept in.

        Moreover, 1 degree C of warming was obviously not enough to frighten the public.

        So, the computerized models cited by the Intergovernmental Panel on
        Climate Change made another assumption: that a hotter world would hold
        more moisture in its atmosphere. Since water vapor is the most effective
        greenhouse gas, the climate modelers claimed Earth might heat by 5 or
        even 10 degrees C. One scientist (who supposedly advises Pope Francis)
        recently claimed 12 degrees C (21 degrees F) of overheating!

        The awkward truth, however, is that NASA has monitored moisture in the atmosphere since 1980 – and water vapor has not increased
        despite the higher levels of CO2 in the air. Is that why the IPCC
        models have predicted more than twice as much warming as we’ve actually
        seen?

        The year 1936 recorded the hottest thermometer readings of any year
        in the last 5,000. However, these days NOAA reports only its “adjusted”
        temperatures, which always seem to go only higher. In fact, the first
        surge of human-emitted carbon dioxide after World War II should have produced the biggest surge of warming – if CO2 is the control factor. Instead temperatures went down from 1940 to 1975.

        Why did the computer models fail to predict (or even factor in)
        either the Pacific Oscillation’s current 20-year non-warming or the
        coming solar sunspot minimum?

        Only one model has verified itself by back-casting the temperatures
        and weather we’ve had over the past century. That model is from Nicola
        Scafetta at Duke University, and it’s based on solar, lunar and planetary cycles.
        The latest data from the CERN particle physics lab have also produced a
        model based on cycling – and it foresees no runaway warming. Instead,
        it sees an impending cold solar minimum.

        Is the long, wrong-headed war against carbon dioxide finally fading?
        Science certainly says it should. But perhaps there is still too much
        money, prestige and power in climate alarmism for that to happen.

        ___________

        Dennis T. Avery is an agricultural and environmental economist and a
        senior fellow for the Center for Global Food Issues in Virginia. He was
        formerly a senior analyst for the U.S. Department of State and is
        co-author, with S. Fred Singer, ofUnstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years.

    2. Kevin says

      Personally, as a Gun Owner, I will never allow myself to be arrested and thrown into “Room 101” – I have way too much ammo, and I promise to take as many of these leftist Nazis with me as I can get my sights on. Ever watch “The Bridges at Toko Ri”? William Holden’s character may have been shot down behind enemy lines (in his F9F Panther), but when Mickey Rooney’s character fails to evacuate him in a primitive 1950s helicopter, they fight to the death. They kill every NK commie they can get their sights on before their position is overrun. Yes, they get killed, but they take quite a few NK regulars with them. Freedom isn’t free. Molon Labe!

      1. Mathew Molk says

        And as the bullet went through Brubaker’s hand into his head he realized just why he was there. —- Not an exact quote but I haevn’t read the book since I was in the 7th grade.

        BTW Rooney plaid Forney and the book is much better then the movie. Too bad the commie teachers of today don’t require the kids to read and do reports on books like Bridges, Fountainhead, and Red Badge. Totally different world when we said an Our Father and the Pledge every morning.

        That is about as far off topic as I ever got.

  3. John Williams says

    Nye is neither a scientist nor do those of us on the right want anything to do with him, the left can have the fool. Just one more fool at the alter of climate change.

    1. Bill O'Neil says

      I hope you have invested all your money in ocean beachfront property.

      1. pstreet says

        GO buy an umbrella to keep all that “SUNSHINE” falling from the sky from your empty head; ALGORE the fraud BOUGHT beach front property drives around in POLLUTING SUVs and flies all over the world in a jet noted for its major pollution of the atmosphere.
        Never mind, I see that you are a brain washed idiot and gullible moron.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          How does that taste, licking the Koch brothers boots?

          1. Retired says

            Tell us how it tastes seeing you liked the Clintons and Obozos ????

          2. SouthernPatriot says

            How does that taste, licking the a$$ of the lying leftist Nazi-in-Chief Obama who violated the U.S. Constitution almost daily as proven by 47 plus skunks by SCOTUS 9-0?

          3. mac12sam12 says

            The Kochs are Americans and George Soros is a Nazi who turned in Jews during WW2 and confiscated their property. Steve Kroft on 60 minutes ask Soros if he was ashamed of what he did he he said no, he was proud of what he did.

          4. Robert Dostoevsky says

            On mac, even for you this is reaching. Soros was 14 years old at the end of WW 2. Soros never said anything about pride, he said he was happy.

          5. mac12sam12 says

            At 14 I knew the difference between rich and wrong, you didn’t? Want to see the interview. oh Robert?

          6. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Once again you change what you said when you are challenged. You said he confiscated property! How did a 14 year old do this.
            Your posts are getting careless lately, are you succumbing to some of the lunacy of a few on this site?

          7. mac12sam12 says

            I knew the difference between right and wrong at 14. If you didn’t you had a bad upbringing .he only lunacy on the site is unhappy trolls like yourself. You have 1391 comments and only 177 votes. Psychology Today says that trolls are unhappy people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9tKvasRO54

          8. Robert Dostoevsky says

            As usual, you have no comment when confronted. You never explained how Soros confiscated property at 14.
            I don’t post to get votes, I post to explain the truth which is offensive to many on this site, especially bigots.
            I have frequently offered to make a friendly charity wager if someone can prove me wrong; to date, no one has taken me up on this.
            You are great at changing the topic of completely ignoring me when I question your posts.

          9. mac12sam12 says

            Your vote total shows that you’re a troll. Trolls are sick people who go to sites where they know 98% will disagree with you. Negative attention is better than no attention at all, right?

          10. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Is the truth important? Some people don’t think so when the truth conflicts with their opinion. When people post things that are in error, why is it being a troll to challenge them?
            Just because 98% disagree with something doesn’t make it wrong. Is the purpose of this site and others like it just to encourage agreement? Perhaps I am wrong, I thought authentically conflicting points of view would be considered.

        2. MIKE6080 says

          gore made hundreds of millions in europe selling “carbon credits “and it still isnt enough money , must be a democratic thing like the clintons , never enough

      2. John Williams says

        There is no denying climate change, it has been going on for Millions of years, it was going on long before the so called “industrial revolution” and it will continue long after you and I are both dead of old age. You refer to, it would seem, the rising ocean levels, this has been going on for millennia, I do not deny the rise, I deny the idea that man has any significant effect on it. Climate change is a term foisted on the world population after the term “global warming” proved the settled science at the time was bogus and we did not see coastal cities under water, climate change was again called upon when the prediction that we would all be frozen to death in the dark, (global cooling) by now came to pass as well. Climate change is a catch all that the powers to be can point at and blame anything they want on it, from cow farts to yogurt. Climate change is and always was pushed by dictators and despots, and yes, I lump the little despot obama in this group, as a means of controlling the masses. All it takes is a “model” where the data can be manipulated to justify non existing facts and a group of “useful idiots” much like yourself, to keep promoting the smoke and mirrors.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          We may still all be frozen to death in a “Nuclear Winter” if tRump continues on his reckless path.

          1. John Williams says

            So, you are one of the ones who backed previous administrations who, either did nothing or gave away tax payer money, your money and mine, in a foolish attempt to pay blackmail to a tyrant, hows that worked out? The issue with NK is the fact that spineless administrations from the past did nothing more than kick the can down the road far enough so they did not have to really do anything other than run off at the mouth about how good they dealt with the problem and what did all that BS solve, absolutely nothing; it has put us in the exact position where we are today, I for one am very glad to see someone with a set of balls who will deal with the problem realistically. You seem to be one of the lemmings who has no problem with an administration blowing smoke up your backside, as long as he can read a teleprompter, screw you and your children and push problems on to a future administration. We have had way too many spineless and useless so called “statesmen” we need leadership, if some feathers get ruffled a bit, tough. I would much rather have someone who may not pass the PC weenie code and is not the most diplomatic, but who is willing to tell it like it is.

          2. paulrph1 says

            They complain about the cost of a wall that they claim will cost $25 billion all the while they gave away $150 billion to Iran, a country that would as soon destroy us if they could.

          3. AKLady says

            The money RETURNED to Iran was a 1979 deposit on a arms purchase made by the Shah. The arms were never delivered due to the Iranian revolution.

          4. paulrph1 says

            So we should have made Iran pay for the wall to keep them out instead of Mexico. We had the money we should have used it judicially. The $150 billion was under a DIFFERENT REGIME. They were our friends at the time and not our sworn enemy.

          5. AKLady says

            Iran is our friend when it is a political advantage.
            Iran is our enemy when that is a political advantage.
            The 9/11 terrorists were all citizens of Saudi Arabia.
            The camp where they trained remains open and spewing terrorists.

          6. paulrph1 says

            So… you post and circumvent the obvious.

          7. AKLady says

            What is obvious is that a debt owed Iran was finally paid.
            What is obvious is we finally had an honest President.

          8. Mark Brickey says

            Yeah, just as the latest memo release shows… and his current activities….

          9. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell these lies?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          10. Mark Brickey says

            Dearest AKlady, as we’ve proven over & over – Proglibs lie to survive. Their whole premises & ideas & politics are based on lies, half-truths & when they can’t get something (like global warming) to “fit”, they cook the books or change the definitions or nomenclature (“climate change”).
            I left liberalism at university, when I got in the real world & grew up. I’ve spent my whole fairly long) adult life searching for truth & the conservation of it. I found the basis for Truth more than 40 years ago, and have studied & researched & read – deeply – to learn more & discover more…

          11. AKLady says

            The Truth According to Mark ..
            Maybe you should find a publisher.
            In the Trump Era, it might even sell.

          12. AKLady says

            Why do you insult the FBI this way?
            Why do you insult the Secret Service this way?
            Why do you insult the CIA this way?
            Why do you insult our allies investigative services this way?

          13. Retired says

            Iran is only our friend when the Dollars float in , how much did the Clinton through Obama administrations give to Iran ??? All the Middle East Countries have gotten billions of US dollars only to turn around an stick it to the USA .

          14. AKLady says

            Iran is populated by human beings, not a “regime”.

          15. paulrph1 says

            You are scraping the bottom of the barrel with a comment like that one.

          16. AKLady says

            How much control do you have over thw regime you live under?
            The Iranian people are just like the humans everywhere else in the world.
            Once born, they love, they hurt, they cry, they die … Along the way the live with a government that treats tem badly, and keeps them in poverty.

          17. paulrph1 says

            Yip and you liberals want to put us in the same boat. But under Trump we are seeing the new light of day.

          18. AKLady says

            Are false accusations and name calling the best you have to offer?

          19. paulrph1 says

            Labels are labels and stating that you are liberal is not name calling. But I see you have a reading comprehension problem. Nice try but no cigar.

          20. AKLady says

            Liberal is a label.
            In the current social culture, it is an insult.
            I suggest you educate yourself better.
            You are embarrassing yourself.

          21. paulrph1 says

            Liberal is an insult to me also. So you are turning around and supporting Trump. I thought not. Some of us do not turn around and flap in the wind. BTW tell the world your real name. I know you are not female.

          22. AKLady says

            Are you having a bad day?
            I hope your day is as pleasant as you are.

          23. paulrph1 says

            I am always having a good day–fighting the battle against evil though.

          24. Bill O'Neil says

            Repeat all that to yourself when you have to “duck and cover” as tRump starts WW3 and the mushroom clouds sprout in your backyard.

          25. Retired says

            Here you go spouting off with no facts or proof , Obama and Clinton left the mess in the middle east . Syria ring a bell and the gas they are using ???? Iran given money for decades to not go Nuke same with North Korea . You like the Military Traitor Kerry deal ???? Are you blind as to what goes on world wide ????

          26. AKLady says

            Nothing has changed since WWII.

          27. John Williams says

            So in your little mind it is OK for other administrations to put us in the same position as we are today, the risk has always been the same, as long as they could blow smoke up your backside and read a teleprompter. Admit it, it does not matter to you what Trump does or does not do, you simply do not like him. That same effect was front and center at the SOTU speech, all the democrats sat on their collective butts with a sour look on their face regardless of what he said or what he has accomplished, you people are all the same, a bunch of f-ing hypocrites. Where was your outrage in past administrations, when we were in the exact same situation, kissing butt, paying blackmail and apologies do not make things better, they only either push the problem off on someone else or make it worse, as has been in this case. I am very relieved that we have someone who will deal with it, I can only imagine the disaster created by another damn clinton

          28. AKLady says

            You must be very young. Nuclear War has hung over the world’s head since WW II. American started it. Oh, and put the sewer mouth in the toilets where it belongs. This time remember to flush.

          29. John Williams says

            Yes honey, in case you are wondering, you are one of the f-ing hypocrites I am talking about.

          30. See Janus says

            Stop.

          31. AKLady says

            Your ignorance is huge.

          32. John Williams says

            OK, so you think I am ignorant and that I must be young, great, you are wrong on both accounts, I am well aware of WW ll and the use of nukes and I am by no means young. Just for the hell of it explain what all that has to do with the conversation that you so rudely interrupted, your superior self aggrandizing attitude changes absolutely nothing, it only shows you for the fool you are.

          33. AKLady says

            “Only a moron would think two third grade school yard bullies playing “chicken” with nukes is “dealing with it”.”
            There are no private conversations on blogs.

          34. Bill O'Neil says

            Only a moron would think two third grade school yard bullies playing “chicken” with nukes is “dealing with it”.

          35. John Williams says

            So, your answer is just ignore the little fat boy until he has a 100% ability to strike anywhere in half of the world with a nuke, (including and especially the USA) we already know he is untrustworthy, after all, he already took $5 Billion of taxpayer money, yours and mine, from slick willie clinton and it accomplished nothing in the way of slowing his march toward more and more nukes, it probably even helped him. So it would seem your answer is what, you seem to be so intent on telling me I am wrong, so tell us Billy, just what is your answer to what we must do to appease you? It is already a proven fact that what has been done by past administrations, HAS NOT WORKED, so it would seem your answer is to keep doing the same thing that has already failed, now there is the moron part.

          36. Bill O'Neil says

            You don’t poke a stick into a hornets nest unless you want to be stung. Ever hear of diplomacy? Should we have started WW3 with the Soviets when they became a nuclear power? If you think so, then you have a death wish.

          37. John Williams says

            Apparently, you have been asleep, diplomacy has been what has failed and diplomacy is the very reason we are in the position we are today. That said I have you pegged for just exactly what I thought, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, you are insane. Right now, under Trump’s actual leadership, I know that leadership is a forign concept to obama supporters, but none the less that is what is happening. There are in place the TOUGHEST SANCTIONS ever on the little fat boy, that in itself, is part of your so called “diplomacy,” but wait, as I said before, it does not matter what Trump does or doesn’t do, you simply do not like him so there is nothing he can do to appease your feeble little self. I am extremely grateful that we have a leader in the White House, if clinton had been elected God only knows what the ditsy old bat would be doing. Had we had leadership in the past that was willing to step up, we would not be in this position today.

          38. Bill O'Neil says

            You failed to answer my question. Should we have started WW3 when the Soviets became a nuclear power?

          39. John Williams says

            You are correct, your attempt to compare apples to oranges, is a bit sad.

          40. mac12sam12 says

            The Soviets weren’t a terrorist nation like Iran and NoKo.

          41. niknar says

            Deft diplomacy is rare & very difficult, & something we’ve lacked over the decades, particularly with North Korea, but it’s something we desperately need in order to reduce international conflicts & lessen the threat of nuclear war.

          42. Retired says

            You forget that so called diplomacy also had Millions and if not Billions of Dollars attached !!!!

          43. niknar says

            That’s not the kind of diplomacy I was talking about,

          44. Retired says

            Giving them money has not worked so what is your thinking when you have the UN – OWO – IMF – World Central Bank and the Bilderberg group trying to control the world while they line their own pockets ????

          45. niknar says

            That’s another issue, and yes corporations & corporate/political institutions around the world have been all about channeling money from hard-working people to banks & corporations, & infiltrating & controlling governments & other institutions.

            A skilled diplomat is able to pacify conflict, bridge differences, enhance alliances, & gain for his country advantages vis-a-vis other nations, often by finding solutions that are mutually beneficial, & not by throwing money at them, although if a country has financial needs that we can fulfill & can return equivalent benefits for us, then that can be an option.

          46. Retired says

            One thing for sure we have not had a good Diplomat in a long time , because all that has happened is give more money and get it stuck to the US taxpayer .I do like your last option .

          47. niknar says

            Yes, it’s been a long time! Practically all my life, it seems

          48. AKLady says

            Exactly …

          49. AKLady says

            America has been continuously at war. some place on the planet, since WW II.
            Then, people like you wonder why our national debt is, what it is.

            “List of wars involving the United States”
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

          50. niknar says

            Well, our national debt is not only because of our constant intrusions into other country’s conflicts, although that’s part of it, but also because we keep lowering the taxes of those who are best equipped to pay so that their contribution to the national treasury becomes trivial.

          51. AKLady says

            When you exclude mandatory spending, the military becomes 60% of the budget. Mandatory spending includes Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

          52. niknar says

            That’s true. But as we keep lowering taxes for the very rich, we reduce federal revenue, which reduces further the amount for discretionary spending, which, however, never seems to affect how much the military gets.

          53. AKLady says

            You left out the fat boy in the Whitehouse.
            Thw Korean War is what was done — it did not work.
            My father died in that war.
            never got to know him.

            What makes you think another war would work? American military conflicts since WWII:
            .
            Korea didn’t. (1950-1953)
            Laotian Civil War. (1953-1975)
            Lebanon Crisis (1958).
            Vietnam didn’t. (1965-1975).
            Dominican Civil War (1965).
            Insurgency in Bolivia (1966–1967)
            Korean DMZ Conflict (1966-1968).
            Cambodian Civil War (1967–1975)
            War in South Zaire (1978)
            Gulf of Sidra encounter (1981)
            Lebanese Civil War (1982–1984)
            Invasion of Grenada (1983)
            Action in the Gulf of Sidra (1986)
            .
            On, and on, and on …
            .
            Gulf War (1990–1991) didn’t make any difference.
            War in Afghanistan (2001–present) Has not made a difference
            Iraq War (2003-2011) did not make a difference

          54. John Williams says

            Well I can understand your hard-on about the Korean war, but again you like the other loon seem to be willing to have the world held hostage by a tyrant in NK. That is something that has needed to be dealt with for a long time, it should never have been allowed to reach this point, it is people with YOUR very attitude who have placed the world in this position. You have a right to kiss someones butt and turn the other cheek, what you do not have is a right to tell everyone else they must do the same. You, as with Billy do not like Trump, just admit it. it matters not what he does or does not do, you will never be satisfied. Let me point out something to you and Billy, the country and the world, for at least 18 months, were forced to listen to you, your leftist friends, the leftist lap dog media, the leftist bobble head pundits and the leftist biased pollsters telling us all just how bad clinton was going to wipe the floor with Trump. Well the fact remains, you, your leftist friends, the leftist lap dog media, the leftist bobble head pundits and the leftist biased pollsters were all wrong, so at this point none of you have a shred of credibility, there is no reason to pay any attention to anything you have to say. The old nag you chose for the race could not even win by cheating.

          55. AKLady says

            Adolescent sexual reference. I am impressed.
            I served two tours at combat hospitals in Vietnam.
            I buried two husbands at Arlington — KIA, Vietnam.
            Two of our children are currently serving in Afghanistan.
            ..
            You make a lot of assumptions — almost all of which are wrong.

          56. John Williams says

            If, and that is a big if, you are telling the truth, credibility remember, I thank you for your service and thank your children as well. That does not mean I agree with you when it comes to fat boy in NK, that is something that has needed dealt with for many years, previous administrations, both GOP and democrat, have failed to do so, neither you nor Billy will admit the fact that it does not matter what Trump does or does not do, you do not like him and will never be happy with anything he does. Again I thank God that we do not have another damn clinton in charge, we more than likely would already be at war.

          57. AKLady says

            Three countries started the Korean War in June 1950: Russia (USSR), China and North Korea

            The Korean War never officially ended. No peace treaty was signed. The armistice is however only a cease-fire between military forces, rather than an agreement between governments.

            Now, John, do you really want Trump to start a war with those three>?
            With Trump in charge. we are likely to be at war before the end of 2018.

            It is not s matter of like or dislike. It is a matter od facts. Trump is a racist, narcisstic, ignorant, inexperienced, pathological liar.

          58. John Williams says

            Actually, your comment is asinine, there is nothing that I have said anywhere that indicates I want to start a war anywhere, this whole issue is in your little mind. You left wing nuts are so sure of everything without looking at anything other than emotions, emotions caused by your severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, you still have not admitted to the fact that it does not matter what Trump says or does you simply do not like him and nothing will satisfy you. What you are witnessing is leadership and gamesmanship, I know that after 8 years of obama, leadership is a concept you fools do not understand, but nonetheless this is how it works. Even the leftist biased NY Times had to choke and run something positive about Trump’s success here, if the times is running it, it has to be very difficult to deny it. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/world/asia/moon-jae-in-trump-north-korea.html apparently positive results are not good enough for you, imagine that. Lower your hatred of Trump, if you can, and read your leftist biased sources, even they are saying there are positive results from this administration

          59. AKLady says

            I suggest that you increase your reading comprehension.
            Trump is a legally-documented racist
            His narcissism is also well-documented.
            He has no legal training, whatsoever,
            He has no government experience whatsoever.
            His legion of lies are al.so well-documented.
            Obama was a leader,
            Trump is a want-to-be dictator, who thinks government can be run the same way as a family business.

          60. John Williams says

            “Trump is a legally-documented racist” there is no such term, it does not exist, except in the delusional mind of leftist fools. “Obama was a leader” proof of more of your delusion, you people are still pissed over the fact you were dumb enough to vote twice for the incompetent fool, a freaking community organizer. The rest of your garbage is just that, garbage.

          61. AKLady says

            Untied states v. Trump, NY, 1973 — there are 200+just like it.
            That, sir, is legal documentation of racism.
            .
            Trump’s lies
            http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/
            https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html
            .
            Save your childish insults fro someone you can impress.

          62. John Williams says

            Ah, the old left wing double standard and hypocrisy, Trump was involved in business WITH HIS FATHER, he may or may not have been the driving force behind what you claim, there was a settlement with the government, giving voice to the old axiom, “you can’t fight city hall,” a settlement with NO admission of guilt. This is where your hypocrisy comes in, something that has a vague possibility of truth to it and happened almost 50 years ago, is just fine for you hypocrites when it is someone you want to target, but when it applies to the clintons or other leftists 10-20 years ago is old news and is only being brought up for “political reasons,” sorry everyone is on to your double standard and hypocrisy BS.

          63. AKLady says

            United States v. Trump, NY, 1973 was cut and dried.
            He was caught red-handed. Maybe you should have actually read the case.
            The State of New York has filed over 30 tax liens against Trump.
            Trump has been involved in over 3,500 lawsuits. He has a reputation for failing to pay contractors, and taxes … Trump University was sued for fraud by the State of New York. Trump Plaza was fined $200,000 in 1991 by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission for a racial incident. Save your political insults for someone you can impress.

            Trump is a legally-documented bigot. His incitement of violence at the 2016 campaign rally stands as current evidence. He has documented business links to organized crime. His hotel and casino businesses of his have been declared bankrupt four times between 1991 and 2009 to re-negotiate debt with banks and owners of stock and bonds. The Trump Foundations was caught self-dealing and violating other tax laws and ordered shut down by New York.

          64. John Williams says

            If all of this you are promoting is true, remember the credibility thing you folks lack, it ought to gripe your leftist butt, that with all of it the American people still preferred him over hillary. I am not even going to attempt to run it all down, as a good percentage of your sources have a lack of credibility as well. I bet your sour presence around the dinner table is really a hoot, I feel sorry for those who have to share it with you.

          65. AKLady says

            Prove it. Provide citations and links.
            “Insults are not arguments, when people resort to insults and personal abuses, then they have run out of logic.” Vincent C. Okeke

          66. John Williams says

            What is there to prove, Trump is President, hillary is NOT and the leftist lap dog media has lost a good percentage of their credibility.

          67. AKLady says

            Excellent evaluation.

          68. mac12sam12 says
          69. AKLady says

            Trump idolizes Putin.
            Putin is laughing at Trump.

          70. mac12sam12 says

            Trump is destroying Russia’s economy, numb nuts. Putin is laughing at the stupidity of the effete democrats.

          71. AKLady says

            Trump is destroying America’s image across the globe.
            .
            He has accomplished the creation of a Russia-China strategic partnership.
            He has accomplished the creation of a Mexico-Russia partnership.
            He has accomplished the creation of a Mexico-China partnership.
            .
            He disdains the rule of law.
            He is destroying vital institutions.
            We have never had a president so ill-informed about the nature of his office
            .
            Jack Goldsmith, writing in the October issue of Atlantic, said it very well:
            Trump is a Frankenstein’s monster of past presidents’ worst attributes: Andrew Jackson’s rage; Millard Fillmore’s bigotry; James Buchanan’s incompetence and spite; Theodore Roosevelt’s self-aggrandizement; Richard Nixon’s paranoia, insecurity, and indifference to law; and Bill Clinton’s lack of self-control and reflexive dishonesty.

          72. mac12sam12 says

            Trump is a great president and by every standard people are doing better. You have a problem with that?

            Trump follows the law and Obama didn’t. would you like a link?

            Jack Goldsmith is a liberal which means he ignores Trump’s many successes. It’s his stupid opinion.

            I realize your grief in the fact that the corrupt old lady lost the election.

            What would Hillary have done to make things better? Offer free stuff and raise taxes. She wouldn’t be attracting trillions into the US economy like Saint Donald has.

            My advice? Pour yourself a double Jack Daniels and turn on the soaps.

          73. AKLady says

            The Wall Street roller coaster, really dramatic. On Monday, the Dow suffered its worst ever one-day point decline, closing down 1,175 points.
            Provide you so-called data. Your posts do not reflect that you have significant legal knowledge.

          74. mac12sam12 says

            And it came back over 600 points and is still at record highs. In two months my wife and I made $20,000 not including our three paychecks.

            I love Saint Donald, Rushmore here he comes MAGA

          75. AKLady says

            Can you take it the store and spend it?
            Paper profit disappears as quickly as it appears.
            Wall Street is a casino.

          76. mac12sam12 says

            If I sell I could but I really don’t need the money.

          77. AKLady says

            Paper profit disappears as quickly as it appears.
            Wall Street is a casino.
            You should have sold before it dropped.

          78. mac12sam12 says

            When stock goes down you buy or you can put it into gold or silver or buy bonds which are very safe but have a low yield. This year we’ve made a lot of money.

          79. mrpoohead says

            Until Monday. Trick actually is to sell high and buy low, not sell after it has crashed.

          80. AKLady says

            Both the Stock Market and casinos use the same form of advertising to draw customers. I prefer to gamble with some of my savings by investing in small start-up businesses. Usually for a percentage of profits. I’ve done very well.

          81. mrpoohead says

            How’s the portfolio?

          82. niknar says

            Some think that Clinton would’ve started WWIII with Russia. Trump himself may start WWIII with Korea (or it could be Kim Jong Un who starts it) & he may be setting us up for war with Russia. It is a delicate balance & there seems to be no good way & certainly no easy way out.

            What Trump is doing is trying a different approach with North Korea that may well work (at least better than previous policies). Trump understands Un better than previous presidents because he thinks quite similarly. Trump’s actions & rhetoric appear dangerous & unstable to many onlookers such as China (& unfortunately Europe), & possible even North Korea itself, which actually appears to have the effect of making them more cautious & less likely to make a move that could stir up Trump. In the short run, this may work. In the long run, it looks risky. So it all depends on whether the short term benefits are worth the long term risks, & that remains to be seen.

            1 of the medium term disadvantages is our growing alienation from our allies & our isolation in the world. Another is the relative gains that adversaries & potential adversaries like Russia, China, Iran & Turkey seem to be reaping internationally while Trump is president. Putin seems not intimidated at all by Trump, probably because he knows he has a certain hold on him.

          83. AKLady says

            Well, up here in Alaska, I am a lot closer than you are …
            At least we have empty spaces to hide in … Lots of empty space with a lot of fish and game. No, it I just don’t run out of ammo.

          84. Jane Tarzan says

            I totally agree with you John.

          85. Retired says

            Shooting off again with nothing to back it up , who is paying you for the nonsense posting .

          86. Mark Brickey says

            your moniker fits – you definitely ARE re tired. The same ol’ arguments, the same ol’ blather. None of the climate change argument can be proven, they cook their research & play games with #’s to keep $ rolling in & keep themselves in some sort of power play. These guys use basically the same computer programs & information to “predict” weather and we SEE how accurate they are with that! Yet, we’re supposed to believe that they can predict years, decades out?!?
            I was in university back in the 70’s… Guess what was being predicted then? Yep – global ice age & population explosion that was going to destroy the world by 2000… Well, since it’s now 2018…
            Then, around 1990’s, we supposedly were burning ourselves up… yet they still can’t get anything more than the raw possibility that we’ve warmed 1/2 degree in… a century? Try looking back, folks – it’s PROVEN that Greenland was once at least sub-tropical and they’ve found forests on the antarctic continent… So, I can reasonably assume that the world has been warmer a while back?
            HHHHHMMMMM….

          87. Retired says

            What University indoctrinated you to your way of thinking ?? The two poles are shrinking ,what do you call that . Every spring they break the ice for the shipping lanes [ for imports] instead of letting it melt on its own so the money changers can make bigger profits . You are about as bright as a 5 watt light bulb !!!

          88. Mark Brickey says

            Sorry, but was schooled in the good liberal halls of Governors’ State University – And, by the way, if you were so much up on your science these days, you’d realize that a 5w bulb output is upwards of 400 lumens these days! I have a BS in Education and MS in Applied Science. What’s YOUR pedigree? Crackerjacks?
            I am a life-long explorer of this wonderful & beautifully crafted world that God’s given us. I explore each day with & for my Jr, & Sr. High science students, where we ponder our world through both general sciences and then chemistry & physics.
            I suppose that you also have taken in the poor polar bears, too, hook, line & sinker…
            What difference does it make if the ice is broken (done for at least a couple of centuries…) or it melts a couple weeks later? What’s that got to do with Greenland having been tropical? Try PROVEN FACTS not observations!
            We’re right in the middle (in Indiana & most of US) of the coldest winter since…1936…. and 1899…. so, we’re 3rd coldest? How does THIS fit into the climate narrative? YEP!!! We have CYCLES of climate change! Yep, sometimes we’r warmer, sometimes we’re cooler… A HECK of a lot more than .5 degree in a hundred years!!!
            Is this not a tenant of your “survival of the fittest” evolutionary theory? Everything that “matters” should be able to mutate & evolve to survive…

          89. Retired says

            BS – Bullshitsky and MS – Multishitsky !!! when was the last time you had 10 to 20 degrees below Zero ????? When was the last time the great lakes were frozen and people could drive their cars on them ???

          90. Mark Brickey says

            And when was the last dust bowl? You’re stating my argument! That was ’70’s and ’80’s. What about the warming spell during the ’20’s & 30’s?!? That was one of the causes of the Dust Bowl of the early 30’s?
            Remember, retread, that “accurate” climatology is a quite new phenomenon in that it wasn’t till the 40’s or even the 50’s before accurate earth temps were taken & recorded, the 60’s & 70’s for computers to be able to play with & tweak the numbers as needed…

          91. Retired says

            The Kansas dust reached the Great Lakes !!!! But I think it was the Twenties when people drove on the Great Lakes . My Aunt had pictures of it .

          92. AKLady says

            It has only been in the last five years that it has been possible to sale from East to West over the Arctic. Antarctica is a land mass, a Continent. The Arctic is composed only of ice — that is melting.

          93. Retired says

            Now you are a expert on that also .

          94. Mark Brickey says

            Hey! The AK Wench is back! sorry, but I’ve never known that ANYONE was able to “sale” the Arctic… And thanks for the 4th grade geography lesson on continents!

          95. AKLady says

            The name calling, little boy is back …

          96. Mark Brickey says

            I see you’re able to tap the “edit” … and figure out your proper grammar!
            Nah, like I’ve said before, to you & to many other proglibs – I stand behind my writings with my name, I don’t need to hide behind monikers because of the degenerate blather that I spew so freely.

          97. AKLady says

            There are over 50 public records on the internet containing that name.
            The named individual is found in over 82 cities.
            My surname appears in 6 cities, they are all related.
            No, Mark, I would not endanger family that way.

          98. Mark Brickey says

            and?!? So you hide behind a moniker instead of facing the real world…

          99. Mark Brickey says

            And… how do you know that this was the only time? The Vikings, the nomadic Eskimo – type people (I forgot their group name…) that moved from Russia & upper Asia… After the land bridge, these guys moved to the Americas somehow…

          100. AKLady says

            How old are you?
            When is the earliest recorded history for N. America?

          101. Mark Brickey says

            Your second comment is exactly what I was implying!
            And probably older than you, dear…

          102. AKLady says

            The Inuit Peoples do not keep written records. The Skraeling were probably a people we now call Thule. They are believed to be the ancestors of the Inuit in Greenland and Canada and the Iñupiat in Alaska.

            Oh, and by the way, I lived in Clovis, NM. Our youngest child was born there, at the Air Force Base. Then there us the child named Anzick-1 found in Montana and Kennewick Man who’s DNA relates him to Anzick.

          103. AKLady says

            Arctic ice is disappearing rapidly. Antarctic ice is growing.
            :Polar bear numbers are down significantly. They are starving. Their hunting grounds are gone, so are their food sources. Where have all the sea mammals gone? Why don’t you tell us all about that. Native People around the world depend upon them for their food, clothing and shelter.

          104. See Janus says

            Check out those massive volcanoes on the west side of Antarctic. Huge ice loss there, and sea levels rising below the equator.

          105. AKLady says

            Sea levels are rising world-wide.
            Again, as you have pointed out, Antarctica is a land mass.
            The Arctic is comprised totally of ice.

          106. Mark Brickey says

            You, dear, are quoting mis-information! The polar bears are alive & well, except for a small population in eastern Canada….

          107. AKLady says

            Dear Mark:
            I live in Alaska. Please do not attempt to “educate” me in regard to things just outside my front door. Thee are trees growing in the tundra.
            Polar bears are moving inland and have become a danger for humans
            My recently deceased husband made repeated trips to the Arctic on
            U.S. Coast Guard Icebreakers. Until 2009, the Arctic pack ice prevented regular marine shipping throughout most of the year. Until 2000 it was not possible to sail from the Atlantic to the Pacific across the Arctic.

          108. Mark Brickey says

            Oh yeah, I forgot that the AK wench is from the deep north! How’s all your publications & writing going?
            Anyway, you aren’t even quoting your own liberal WWF!!!
            http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/where_we_work/arctic/wildlife/polar_bear/population/
            Again, climate is cyclical – there’s going to be timeframes in which there is more & less ice, higher & lower tides & ocean levels!
            Have you also not been keeping up with astronomy recently?!? With the Super moons being so frequent right now (1st time in a century if I remember correctly), the tides, ocean levels, even lakes & large rivers are being affected by the increase of lunar gravitational pull…

          109. AKLady says

            You made an impression with the name calling …
            Environmental fact is based on proven science.
            Fact is neither conservative or liberal.

          110. mac12sam12 says

            Did you get indoor plumbing yet? Do you need a blow torch to warm up the outside toilet? We have 4 and 1/2 baths, indoors

          111. AKLady says

            How many people are in your family?
            Are you bragging or complaining?

          112. mac12sam12 says

            Bragging and complaining. The last daughter just move out and 1 1/2 baths would work out better.

          113. AKLady says

            Military housing usually only has one bathroom. We were a family of five.

          114. See Janus says

            Good, and don’t forget the end of oil on the planet….we were supposed to run out by 1999.

          115. AKLady says

            Why don’t you tell us how much oik the U.S. imports?

          116. paulrph1 says

            America is now the exporter of energy. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

          117. AKLady says

            America is a net exporter of petroleum products.

          118. Mark Brickey says

            How true! I’d forgotten about THAT prediction!

          119. AKLady says

            We did, what we have now is planet damaging shale wells.
            With a little luck Quaker State and Pennzoil wells won’t go dry.

          120. AKLady says

            Mouth service all you ever have. Never any valid facts.

          121. Bill O'Neil says

            Asks a paid tRump troll.

          122. Retired says

            And you are still licking the Clintons and Obamas !!!!

          123. Garys_opinion says

            You just bump from one leftest rant to another, don’t you!
            Those supposedly clever little names for our president that you people on the left continually throw out there, just shows your level of immaturity.

          124. AKLady says

            Trump is a narcisstic, pathological liar. Anyone with basic observation skills has figured that much out. The only thing Trump cares about is Trump and his bank account.

          125. Greg Srednicki says

            Thats all you can do is character assassinate? Sorry Lady the only thing President Trump cares about is the American people

          126. AKLady says

            Truth is truth, not liking to hear it does not change a thing.

            All False statements involving Donald Trump http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

            Trump’s Lies vs. Your Brain
            https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658

            In 365 days, President Trump has made 2,140 false or misleading …
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.5a8ea05818d9

            The 25 Worst Lies From Donald Trump’s First 200 Days https://www.vogue.com/article/donald-trump-lies-200-days

          127. Bill O'Neil says

            These brain dead right wingers don’t want and can’t handle the truth!!!

          128. AKLady says

            Amen!
            It is called brainwashing.
            Fox News does a lot of it.

          129. paulrph1 says

            Missed the SOTU address I see. And one might think they are smart but only in their own mind.

          130. AKLady says

            His brag fest … the many dubious facts and figures, the many claims which have been repeatedly proven false, the inflated job numbers, the outright lies .. I watched until my stomach would not handle any more …

          131. Mark Brickey says

            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/
            SEVEN pages of political lies, broken promises. Not including the private ones I mentioned above

          132. AKLady says

            Ha, ha, ha …
            1. Just about everything stated requires an act of Congress.
            2. You elect Congress.
            3. The so-called quotes provide no citations.

          133. mac12sam12 says

            Want another laugh? Obama lowering the ocean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tuAJkbUWU

          134. AKLady says

            Why do you keep harping on Obama?
            What he tried to do would have acted to further reduce carbon emissions.
            However, people like you …
            Suggest you actually look at how acidic the oceans are becoming.
            Look at what has happened to places like the Great Barrier Reef.

          135. mac12sam12 says

            Our technology is fine concerning pollution, maybe a pep talk with China and India might help.

          136. AKLady says

            “They do it, why can’t I” is a very immature excuse.

          137. mac12sam12 says

            China isn’t a 3rd world country, they’re the second biggest economy in the world. The US is first. Haiti is a banana republic.

          138. AKLady says

            China is not a first world country and is not likely to ever become one. China’s major cities are first-world, the rest of the nation lives in a third-world environment. High income, for a few, doesn’t make a country a first-world country; Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait all have high income, but no one calls them first world countries.

          139. mac12sam12 says

            They are a first world country and the second biggest economy on the planet. So by your standard, every country in the world is a third world country except for the US.

            Now Don’t You Feel Stupid.

          140. AKLady says

            A country’s status is based on per capita income, not absolute economic size. The majority of China lives in poverty. “Third-world” is used to describe developing countries. It includes capitalist countries, some rich nations, and the very poor nations.
            .
            One of the key factors used to classify a country as third-world is the lack of a middle-class population. China has impoverished millions and a very small elite controlling its wealth and resources.
            .
            Oh, and by the way, most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. The U.S. debt to China is $1.2 trillion as of November 2017. That’s 19 percent of the $6.3 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries

          141. mac12sam12 says
          142. AKLady says

            Just more of Trump’s misleading claims:
            Barack Obama, 1.5%
            George W. Bush, 1.6%
            George H.W. Bush, 2.1%
            Gerald Ford, 2.2%
            Dwight Eisenhower, 2.5%
            Richard Nixon, 3.0%
            Jimmy Carter, 3.2%
            Ronald Reagan, 3.5%
            Bill Clinton, 3.8%
            Lyndon B. Johnson, 5.0%
            John F. Kennedy, 5.4%

          143. mac12sam12 says

            That’s all opinion, have any thoughts of your own? Trump has kept all his promises, and the other politicians hate him because he can’t be bought. How many promises did Hussein O keep? Because he was 10% black, the media protection his black ass.

            Obama, “ISIS can’t even be contained!”

            Trump, “Buh bye, ISIS!”

          144. AKLady says

            Facts …
            Sorry, but the valid facts don’t match your grocery store rag …

          145. mrpoohead says

            Name one promise kept!

          146. Col C says

            Trump has been the president for a year, if he were reckless, he would have already pushed the button. He said 20 years ago, in an interview, that he would try everything else before ever using nuclear bombs as an answer. He is probably even less likely to use them now, because he has even more experience. Bill Clinton was the one that sold uranium to North Korea back then, and I would consider that reckless.

          147. Bill O'Neil says

            You must have got that line of BS from the Russian Troll Farm.

          148. Retired says

            You are proving to be another ROBO TROLL with nothing to offer but hate .

          149. Bill O'Neil says

            Wrong as usual. You are the one that gets all your talking points from right wing hate merchants.

          150. Retired says

            Funny I get mailings from the Democrats as well as their crocket union supporters , your ignorance is showing big time .

          151. albaby2 says

            You must be there searching for something against Trump

          152. albaby2 says

            So Kim won’t nuke us if we impeach Trump, right? You want to send Obama to NK to bow before Kim and hand him the title to the U.S.?

          153. Bill O'Neil says

            You are proof that there is no cure for stupid!!!

          154. Retired says

            Yes you are STUPID , Trump does not decide to use the Nuke nor does he have the button .

          155. Bill O'Neil says

            You keep showing me that you live in an alternate reality.

          156. Retired says

            All you do is post hate and ignorance with no substance !!!

          157. albaby2 says

            Name calling is the refuge for those who cannot defend their position. Thanks for demonsrating that

          158. mac12sam12 says

            What reckless path?

          159. Dan says

            Spoken like a true liberal Waters and Hilary follower. If you want to check the stats you will find that the percent of total emissions that the US produces is shy of 2%. of the total. Want to do something constructive get Japan and China in this century of control of emissions.

          160. Bill O'Neil says

            You must have gotten your alternative facts from the Koch brothers.

          161. Retired says

            Why don’t you present some facts instead of spouting off Garbage . You are just here to represent hate . Are you a member of the KKK or BLM

          162. Bill O'Neil says

            Wrong!!! US produces roughly one third of world emissions. Try google, it’s not that hard.

          163. Dan says

            Try new data from a reliable source.

          164. AKLady says

            Someone actually making sense!

          165. albaby2 says

            AKLady judging somone elses comments? ROTFLMAO!

          166. Retired says

            They are a matched pair when it comes to being Brainwashed .

          167. AKLady says

            There you are with the childish insults.
            I am flattered.
            So much attention.

          168. mac12sam12 says

            It’s NoKo beating the war drums, Chief.

        2. disqus_v5723Mqspa says

          Right on! You nailed it!

        3. SouthernPatriot says

          Thank you. You tied it together so well!

        4. Mark Brickey says

          Perfect response!

        5. Mathew Molk says

          Nope,,,Toll late for them to switch from “Global Warming” They came up with it and they own it and I plaid hell on Monday getting the heat back on in the house. At 6 degrees the fuel oil gelled and I had to bring in 5 gallon cans and rig a 55 gal drum in the basement to get the furnace back on.

          Hey, It’s all the way up to 17 degrees on the East side of Cleveland. Looks like Goofy Gore and Numbnuts Nye must have warmed the global today.

          Global warming yurass. So far this year it’s been the coldest winter in years.

          1. John Williams says

            And the wonder of it all, it is all a natural climate cycle and all the government control and taxes cannot do a damn thing about it, this is all about control.

          2. Retired says

            I remember going to work at 10 below and going home at 20 below zero ,have not had much of that since the 90s when our manufacturing had shifted to China and polluted the world from there . So how did you heat your home in those days ??? Most homes had their Oil Tanks in the basement going way back because of the jelling plus there are additives to prevent that .

          3. Michael Dennewitz says

            Ha! I was born and raised in southern Ohio. Back then we had an “outhouse” and we had to use a huge washtub over a fire, just to bathe. The only thing heating the house in winter was a huge fireplace ! Many, MANY days it was colder than a witches kiss! 😆😁😂🤣

          4. Retired says

            The youngest and cleanest went first and the Old man usually went last . Usually on Friday or Saturday depending on if the boss man worked Saturdays .

          5. whocares6 says

            I to was raised in a house with 5 rooms and a path.

          6. AKLady says

            Up here in Alaska, the trees growing in the Tundra are just our imagination, right?

          7. Mark Brickey says

            survival of the fittest! Evolution at work!

          8. AKLady says

            Trees in the tundra has nothing, whatsoever, to do with evolution.
            You have the issue backwards.

          9. Mark Brickey says

            Survival of the fittest – morphing into something that survives… the definition of evolution….
            Not a backwards issue, just a straight-out observation!

          10. AKLady says

            They say ignorance is bliss …
            You are spouting pure nonsense.
            Trees in the tundra document climate change … that warming you say does not exist. Maybe, you should loo at how the acidification of the oceans is affecting plankton. They are the very basis of the food chain.

          11. Mark Brickey says

            sweetheart, you progressives/liberals argue out of both sides of your backsides – on one hand, you argue that “science” says that all things are in constant change, constant evolution, constant mutation, yet, then when it supposedly is happening you argue that it shouldn’t be happening! You use circular reasoning to argue that it’s cold one day, then warm the next, then the sky’s too blue then the sky’s too cloudy.
            Now, you claim to live in NM, so why don’t you tell us what climate change is doing there? All the desert’s getting frost-bit? The mountains’ glaciers expanding? It’s called cyclical climate! In another 5-10 years, you’ll be hollering about a new ice age coming (remember the 70’s as I’ve brought up before?!?)!

          12. AKLady says

            Tundra: a vast, flat, treeless Arctic region of Europe, Asia, and North America in which the subsoil is PERMANENTLY frozen

            Live is present – Alaska
            Lived is past tense – New Mexico

          13. Mark Brickey says

            Again, you mis-characterize. Tundra is NOT treeless and the issue is NOT trees in general. There are trees that were designed to survive in that biome and the “concern” is that certain alpine conifers are invading areas around the extreme edges of the tundra… Just a cursory search will show trees: https://www.google.com/search?q=extreme+tundra+trees&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS781US781&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-o9H72Y7ZAhVp2IMKHfB_A-gQsAQILw&biw=1280&bih=707

          14. AKLady says

            “Tundra: a vast, flat, treeless Arctic region of Europe, Asia, and North America in which the subsoil is permanently frozen” https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tundra

          15. Mark Brickey says

            You still mis-characterize by using a general discionary definition for multiple biomes! Do you never tire of showing your bullheaded insistence on misinformation & almost ignorance of nomenclature & science?

          16. AKLady says

            Oh, I see, you dispute Oxford …
            You also have the nerve to tell an Alaskan you know more about their home…
            Are you displaying your spelling words for the week?

          17. Mark Brickey says

            You are REALLY a trip! That’s like looking up shark in the dictionary and they say a scaleless fish with teeth! There’s multiple biomes within the nomenclature of “Tundra” as ANYONE with any scientific knowledge knows!

          18. AKLady says

            Tundra is the youngest biome.
            –as ANYONE with any scientific knowledge knows!

            It is cold, dry and windy; or was, once upon a time.
            –as ANYONE with any scientific knowledge knows!
            .
            The average temperatures were -6 C to 12 C; or were, once upon a time
            –as ANYONE with any scientific knowledge knows!
            ..
            The vegetation was limited to grass, moss and lichens; or was,
            once upon a time –as ANYONE with any scientific knowledge knows!

          19. Mark Brickey says

            THREE types of Tundra biome:
            https://biomestundra.weebly.com/three-types-of-tundra.html
            Or 2, depending on who you wish to quote:
            http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/glossary/gloss5/biome/tundra.html
            But even Wikipedia lists more than one!

          20. SILENTHAMMER says

            Well, she(?)’s good for a laugh………ya have to give her that.

          21. Paul Taalman says

            But you posted that: “Up here in Alaska, the trees growing in the Tundra are just our imagination, right?” Are you flip-flopping now and saying that you don’t have trees where you live?

          22. AKLady says

            Sarcasm is over your head, right?

          23. Retired says

            You don’t live there , you are from the slums of NYC .Are you kissing Soroass and Bloomberg’s butt ???

          24. ernldo says

            akMALADY is a trannie, and smokes pole….demotard pole

          25. niknar says

            Global warming & climate change are 2 somewhat different things, & both terms have been with us for a very long time. Climate change is a more general term that describes what has happened to the Earth over millions of years, to a region over a shorter time period, & to anywhere from season to season. Global warming is a more restrictive term describing the overall increase in temperature over a long period of time, & anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is the increase in heat over time of the planet since the Industrial Age, in particular, that is generated by human activity, & this heating of the planet has accelerated as the increase in concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere & ocean has accelerated. The ramifications of this phenomenon is a change in climate that goes beyond just warming, but includes an intensification of storms, increased drought & its associated fires, increased precipitation in areas leading to more floods, & the change in water & air currents, which in some cases brings cooling to certain areas & the intensification of winter storms. It also affects plant & animal distribution, migration & survival (or extinction).

          26. whocares6 says

            I’m glad i had my SUV to get us out of the ice age.

          27. AKLady says

            Anchorage temperatures have been averaging 10 degrees above historic for the past five years.
            Today, it is 11 F.
            Ten years ago, the snow on the ground would have measured in feet. Now, if it snows at all, it is just inches.

          28. Retired says

            Any body can look up those stats on the net . Now tell us about the weather in NYC where you hide out ???

          29. Mark Brickey says

            jan 1980- feb 1980 average temp was 15 degrees, min was 9. That was 40 years ago… same for 1960 – avg was 20 and 14. that was 60 years ago… Now, go quote your fake news elsewhere

          30. SILENTHAMMER says

            WHADAYA KNOW! I think you shut her(?) up! Congratulations!

          31. Mark Brickey says

            Nah, she’ll be back. She does present some good questions at times, but her arguments are either circular or not deep enough to cover

        6. AKLady says

          All that pollution man puts into the atmosphere cannot possibly have any effect. Those people who’s asthma is worsened has nothing to do with the air.
          The fact that some places in this country make me cough and my eyes water …

        7. niknar says

          Climate change has occurred throughout the history of the planet, but since man has evolved, it has alternated between “ice ages” (glacial periods) & mild, stable interglacial periods, which modern civilization since well before the Industrial Revolution, or even the Greeks, has experienced. But now due to the accumulation of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere & oceans from human input, our climate is warming unnaturally & at an accelerated pace. The 4 hottest years ever recorded globally have been the last 4 years. 17 of the 18 hottest years on record have occurred in the past 18 years, the other being in 1998. The record high global temperatures for every month of the year have been achieved in the past 2 years. No month in more than 30 years has gone below the 20th Century mean (average). Many recent months have been greater than 1°C above the mean (rising above 1.5-2°C is considered catastrophic by climate experts & must be avoided). Last year we had the greatest amount of rainfall ever recorded in a storm, during Hurricane Harvey (more precipitation than goes over the Niagara Falls in 5 years), & the longest sustained winds ever, during Hurricane Irma, & 1 of the 2 costliest tropical cyclones ever, during Hurricane Maria. And last year we had 1 of the most horrific & costliest fires ever, occurring in the Napa Valley in October, & the largest fire ever recorded in California, in DECEMBER, at least 2 months after the fire season normally concludes.

          This is on top of catastrophic deforestation throughout the world, especially in tropical areas, ecosystem fragmentation, aquatic disintegration, marine degradation, poison dissemination, resource depletion, soil erosion, industrial agriculture, etc., all human caused, that together are accelerating mass extinction that is likely to eventually include humans unless we urgently & massively act to stop this widespread destruction of our biosphere.

          1. pineapple says

            Climate Scientists Account for Volcanoes, Change Models Drastically

            By Benjamin Arie

            December 2, 2017 at 11:44am

            “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” That quote
            was made popular by Mark Twain over a century ago, but it’s just as
            applicable today… especially when talking about “climate change.”

            If you listen to climate alarmists, the statistics say the world is warming at an unprecedented rate, and it’s all the fault of humans.

            However, a new study by University of Alabama-Huntsville climate
            scientists found that studies used by other scientists made a glaring
            oversight: Their data didn’t take into account volcanoes.

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            According to The Daily Caller,
            when scientists John Christy and Richard McNider re-calibrated
            satellite temperature data to remove the effects of naturally occurring
            volcanic eruptions, they found something stunning: The rate of global
            warming has been nearly unchanged in the last 30 years.

            “We indicated 23 years ago — in our 1994 Nature article — that
            climate models had the atmosphere’s sensitivity to CO2 much too high,”
            Christy said in a statement. “This recent paper bolsters that conclusion.”

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            Volcanoes can dramatically influence the earth’s climate, but
            sometimes in ways you might not expect. We often imagine volcanoes as
            sources of heat, but when they erupt, the ash they spew can also act as an atmospheric layer that actually helps keep the earth cool.

            “Two major volcanoes — El Chichon in 1982 and Pinatubo in 1991 —
            caused global average temperature to dip as a result of volcanic ash,
            soot and debris reflecting sunlight back into space,” The Daily Caller noted.

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            Think of the volcanic ash as a windshield sun reflector that protects
            a car on a hot day. Particles thrown into the sky by large volcanoes
            shield the earth from the sun’s rays, and the earth stays cooler as a
            result.

            The University of Alabama scientists believe that this is essentially
            what happened 30 years ago. Because those two significant 1982 and 1991
            volcanoes occurred right around the time a major global warming study
            began, the eruptions skewed the data and made the result look more dramatic than it truly was.

            “Those eruptions happened relatively early in our study period, which
            pushed down temperatures in the first part of the dataset, which caused
            the overall record to show an exaggerated warming trend,” Christy said.

            “While volcanic eruptions are natural events, it was the timing of these that had such a noticeable effect on the trend

            “If the same eruptions had happened near the more recent end of the
            dataset, they could have pushed the overall trend into negative numbers,
            or a long-term cooling,” he said.

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            That means that current climate models that predict dramatic global
            warming are most likely wrong, or at least highly exaggerated. They
            include temperature spikes that appear higher than they truly are
            because volcanic eruptions created a false baseline.

            As soon as those errors are removed, the global warming rate is
            suddenly very steady over the last three decades and does not seem to be
            dramatically climbing. Of course, that doesn’t help push massive economic takeovers or pad Al Gore’s pockets the same way as alarmist panic.

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            Perhaps the real takeaway of this recent study is that science is constantly changing and being revised.

            If the experts didn’t realize that volcanoes were affecting
            conclusions for 30 years, what other “settled science” is actually based
            on false conclusions?

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            In truth, science is never settled. Scientific facts are not a democracy, and a false “consensus”
            doesn’t actually impact reality any more than hundreds of scientists
            claiming the sun orbits the earth would somehow make it true.

            Good scientists are always questioning
            and revising. When a group seems openly hostile to questions and
            angrily bitter against skeptics, the odds are they are on the wrong side
            of reality.

          2. niknar says

            You don’t need to look at a period starting in 1982 or 1991 to show a warming trend, & those dates don’t have particularly low global temperatures compared to earlier periods in the century. Start in 1995, in 2000, in 2005, & you will find an even more dramatic increase since those dates.

          3. niknar says

            We often hear claims that global warming isn’t real, or if so, it’s not caused by humans. That human emissions didn’t cause previous polar ice melting doesn’t mean that it isn’t causing the current polar ice melting. Scientists have looked at all possible factors that might cause global warming, both human & natural, and have concluded overwhelmingly that the current global warming is due to human emissions.

            Here are a few things to take into account while trying to determine the truth of the matter. First, keep in mind these principles: environmental health is directly correlated with personal health; rather than trying to control nature, which has gotten us the environmental disaster we face today, we need to learn to work with nature; water is far more valuable than oil or gas; trees are far more valuable than coal, or even gold, since we need water & trees simply to survive. If we abide by these truths, then we might have a chance to turn things around and keep this Earth habitable.

            Try to look at motivation. It is amply & demonstrably clear that fossil fuel companies (& other huge multinational corporations) have plenty of motive to do & say whatever it takes to make sure that they have the right to extract whatever they want to extract & to poison whatever & whomever in the process, to make the maximum amount of profit possible, and to avoid any taxes or restrictions, no matter the cost to the rest of the population. Their greed has shown no bounds. Just look at Koch, Exxon, Monsanto & Walmart, for example. It is much harder to attribute any comparable motive, though many have tried, to scientists & academics whose lifelong mission has been to discover & explain the truths about the universe & how things work (except where they’re tied with corporations, in which case they may toe the line of the corporatist climate deniers).

            Aside from that, if you are faced with these 4 outcomes:

            1) the scientific community is right & we take the necessary measures to alleviate climate change: it could be expensive in the short run, but we would safely overcome the challenges with minimal climate & environmental disruption, and the overall financial benefits compared to doing nothing are likely to be very positive in the long run. The money we put up front will have been an excellent investment.

            2) The scientific community is wrong but we take those measures, anyway: it would be expensive, but there’d be many other benefits we’d gain: much less pollution, we’d continue to have a diverse flora & fauna, we’d still have most of our resources, we’d be much healthier, we’d likely have a healthier employment situation, a less uneven wealth distribution, etc., & we’d gain new economic opportunity & advantages in the long run through innovation. Again, an excellent investment.

            3) The scientific community is wrong & we don’t take those measures: we’d save some money in the short run, but our resources would be greatly depleted & therefore much more expensive; disputes over water & other resources would likely get steadily more frequent & violent, we’d have pollution of all kinds, our oceans would be dying (they already are), there’d be catastrophic extinction of plants & animals (already we’re experiencing one of the greatest mass extinctions in the history of this Earth due mainly to human activities), our overall health would likely decline, etc.

            4) The scientific community is right but we do nothing: then even more calamitous extinction; huge displacement of human populations; widespread conflict over our remaining resources, including water; widespread & uncontrollable disease; increasing crop failure; intolerable weather; gigantic destructive storms; possible extinction of the human species.

            So what is the best outcome? Actually, it’s #2: scientists are wrong but we take preventive measures – the response coal companies & other climate deniers are telling us not to take! We would’ve put some money upfront, but the side benefits would be well worth it & we wouldn’t’ve had to go through some of the worsening effects of climate change that we feared were impending. #1 would be the 2nd best outcome, because although we go through some tough times weathering through some of the effects of climate change that appear sure to come no matter what we do, we will have survived & overcome our greatest world climate threat we’ve ever faced. Even though it seems to be the industrialists’ dream, #3 comes out a poor 3rd, because although we wouldn’t face the climate challenges (beyond the normal cycles we’ve always faced), we’d still be a much worse place due to widespread pollution, resource depletion, wildlife extinction, etc., which would eventually take us down, anyway, even without being pushed on by climate change. Of course, #4 would be the worst. Conclusion: we must take the (now urgent & dramatic) measures necessary to combat climate change & environmental degradation, whether 97%+ of the scientists are correct, or certain powerful, superwealthy fossil fuel & chemical industries such as Koch, Exxon, Monsanto & Dow are correct. No matter which side is right, taking these measures is clearly the prudent course to take. The longer we wait, the more expensive it will be and the more we will suffer.

            Even if these outcomes were considered to have equal possibility (they’re not: the probabilities overwhelmingly favor #1 or #4, depending on our action or inaction), and even if you didn’t care about maintaining animal & plant diversity, a pleasant environment, clean air, clean water, your own personal health & longevity to say nothing about other people’s (because if you were this way, you wouldn’t care about other people), but only about getting rich, any reasonable businessman, in order to insure himself from the worst consequences, which would be so dire that the differences among the other outcomes become trivial, would choose to take appropriate measures to tackle this climate change challenge.

            Much more prudent would be to take measures to prevent or alleviate these disastrous changes, like becoming much more energy efficient, converting to clean, renewable energy, conserving more, paying for greenhouse emissions, consuming less, reducing intake of meat, avoiding plastic, expanding mass transit, avoiding driving cars, abandoning industrial farming for regenerative organic farming, reforesting our lands, reducing chemical spills & agricultural runoff, reducing the amount of land paved in concrete & asphalt…, & instituting pricing on greenhouse gases (such as the carbon fee + dividend proposed by CCL https://citizensclimatelobby.org/remi-report/ ) is a first step toward accomplishing these goals. All these things would help forestall climate change, have many other benefits to the environment, people’s health & the economy, & aren’t hard to do, other than getting past the well-funded industries trying to block such measures. It’s a far better way than suffering through ever greater environmental & economic disasters, wishing & hoping that technology will come up with something to protect us. And it’s our moral imperative to do so.

          4. pineapple says

            A good read and may open a few peoples eyes

            Ian Rutherford Plimer is
            an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the
            University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University
            of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining
            companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited
            the Encyclopedia of Geology.

            These are his extensive credentials. Born12 February 1946ResidenceAustraliaNationalityAustralianFieldsEarth Science, Geology, Mining EngineeringInstitutionsUniversity of New England,University of Newcastle,University of Melbourne,University of AdelaideAlma materUniversity of New South Wales,Macquarie UniversityThesisThe pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia (1976)Notable awardsEureka Prize (1995, 2002),Centenary Medal(2003), Clarke Medal (2004)

            How they don’t mention ‘Global Warming’ anymore, but just ‘Climate Change’ – you know why?

            It’s because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bullshitartists got caught with their pants down.

            And,
            just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme –
            that whopping new tax – imposed on you that will achieve absolutely
            nothing except make you poorer.

            It won’t stop any volcanoes from erupting, that’s for sure.

            But, hey, …..go give the world a hug and have a nice day.

            Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?

            Professor Ian Plimer’s book in a brief summary.
            PLIMER:
            “Okay, here’s the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland . Since
            its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY
            SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2
            emissions on our planet – all of you.

            Of
            course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to
            suppress – it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires
            to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all
            animal life.

            I
            know….it’s very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon
            emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience
            and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags,
            sitting up till midnight to finish your kids “The Green Revolution”
            science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies,
            using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet
            tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home
            instead of abroad,nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle,
            replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light
            bulbs…..well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the
            tubes in just four days.

            The
            volcanic ash emitted into the Earth’s atmosphere in just four days –
            yes, FOUR DAYS – by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every
            single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there
            are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at
            any one time – EVERY DAY.

            I
            don’t really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention
            that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991,
            it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire
            human race had emitted in all its years on earth.

            Yes, folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over One year – think about it.

            Of
            course, I shouldn’t spoil this ‘touchy-feely tree-hugging’ moment and
            mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized
            800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite
            our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

            And
            I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the
            fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA
            and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon
            in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

            Just
            remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon
            tax on you, on the basis of the bogus ‘human-caused’ climate-change
            scenario.

            Hey, isn’t it interesting !

          5. Bill O'Neil says

            Koch brothers troll alert!!!

          6. Retired says

            How many demonstrations – looting and fires have the Koch brothers supported compared to Soroass and the DNC ?????

          7. albaby2 says

            Al Gore and scientists paid to verify governments CC agenda alert

          8. Bob Everett says

            O’Neil, you blithering idiot, at least the Koch brothers are Americans, not Gestapo informers like your boy Soros. No tell me this, smartass. How come they were growing crops in Greenland in the 1600’s? Global warming is the biggest political hoax of the last 500 years.

          9. Bill O'Neil says

            You better check out The Flat Earth Society. I heard they are still taking new memberships.

          10. Bill O'Neil says

            According to the USGS, volcanoes generate about 200 million tons of CO2 annually. Our automotive and industrial activities cause 24 BILLION tons of CO2 every year world wide.

          11. pineapple says

            NEARLY DOOMED BY TOO LITTLE CO2

            By
            Paul Driessen

            on
            July 4, 2017

            Uncategorized

            Aside from protests by Al Gore, Leonardo Di Caprio and friends, the
            public didn’t seem to raise its CO2 anguish much above the
            Russians-election frenzy when Trump exited the Paris Climate Accords.

            Statistician Bjorn Lomborg had already pointed out that the Paris CO2
            emission promises would cost $100 trillion dollars that no one has, and
            make only a 0.05 degree difference in
            Earth’s 2100 AD temperature. Others say perhaps a 0.2 degree C (0.3
            degrees F) difference, and even that would hold only in the highly
            unlikely event that all parties actually kept their voluntary pledges.

            What few realize, however, is that during the last Ice Age too little CO2
            in the air almost eradicated mankind. That’s when much-colder water in
            oceans (that were 400 feet shallower than today) sucked most of the
            carbon dioxide from the air; half of North America, Europe and Asia were
            buried under mile-high glaciers that obliterated everything in their
            paths; and bitterly cold temperatures further retarded plant growth.

            In fact, Earth’s atmosphere had only about 180 parts per million CO2,
            compared to today’s 400 ppm: 0.018% then versus 0.040% today.

            The Ice Age’s combined horrors –
            intense cold, permanent drought and CO2 starvation – killed most of the
            plants on Earth. Only a few trees survived, in the mildest climates. Much
            of the planet’s grass turned to tundra, which is much less nourishing
            to the herbivores prehistoric humans depended on for food and fur.
            Recent Cambridge University studies conclude that only about 100,000
            humans were left alive worldwide when the current interglacial warming
            mercifully began.

            The few surviving prey animals had to keep migrating to get enough
            food. That forced our ancestors to migrate with them, in temperatures
            that routinely fell to 40 degrees below zero (both Fahrenheit and
            Celsius). The Neanderthals had been living in relatively warm caves
            protected from predators by fires at the cave mouths. They had hunted
            their prey by sneaking through the trees – which no longer existed. They
            apparently couldn’t adapt, and starved. Cambridge found no evidence of
            genocidal warfare.

            The most successful human survivors – who provided most of the DNA
            for modern Europeans – were nomads from the Black Sea region. The
            Gravettians had never had trees, so they invented mammoth-skin tents,
            held up by salvaged mammoth ribs. They also developed spear-throwers, to
            kill the huge beasts from a safe distance.

            Equally important, Gravettians domesticated and bred wolves, to
            protect their tents from marauders, locate game animals on the broad
            tundra, and harry the prey into defensive clusters for easier killing.
            The scarcity of food in that Glacial Maximum intensified the dogs’
            appreciation for the bones and bone marrow at the human camps.

            When that Ice Age ended, moreover, CO2 changes didn’t lead the
            warming. The atmospheric CO2 only began to recover about 800 yearsafter the warming started.

            Carbon dioxide truly is “the gas of life.” The plants that feed us
            and wildlife can’t live without inhaling CO2, and then they exhale the
            oxygen that lets humans and animals keep breathing.

            Our crop plants evolved about 400 million years ago, when CO2 in the
            atmosphere was about 5000 parts per million! Our evergreen trees and
            shrubs evolved about 360 million years ago, with CO2 levels at about
            4,000 ppm. When our deciduous trees evolved about 160 million years ago,
            the CO2 level was about 2,200 ppm – still five times the current level.

            There’s little danger to humans of too much CO2 in the air they
            breathe. Even the Environmental Protection Agency says 1000 ppm is the
            safe limit for lifetime human exposure. Space shuttle CO2 alarms are set at 5,000 ppm, and the alarm in nuclear submarines is set at 8,000 ppm!

            If there’s little danger of humans having too much CO2 in their air,
            and a real danger to civilization from having too little, what’s the
            ideal level of atmospheric CO2? The answer? There’s a broad safe range –
            with far more risk of too little than too much. At low levels, with few
            or no plants, there’d be no people or animals, let alone civilization.

            Human numbers, moreover, expanded strongly during the Holocene
            Optimum, with temperatures 4 degrees C higher than today! Even now,
            residents of the tropics keep demonstrating that humans can tolerate
            much higher temperatures than most of us experience. (As we utilize the
            new malaria vaccine, the tropics will prosper even more.) And far more
            people die from “too cold” than from “too warm.”

            The crops continue to produce record yields in our “unprecedented”
            warming – and the extra CO2 in our air is credited with as much as 15%
            of that yield gain!

            It’s not whether more CO2 in the air raises Earth’s temperatures. We
            know it does, by some small but still hotly debated amount. Both sides
            agree that a redoubling of CO2 in the air – by itself – would raise
            earth’s temperature by only about 1 degree C.

            That’s hardly noticeable or measurable in the midst of all the local
            temperature variations, with the myriad of natural forces that govern
            planetary climate, with all the discrepancies among the various
            measuring systems, and amid all the errors, biases and missing or
            revised data that have crept in.

            Moreover, 1 degree C of warming was obviously not enough to frighten the public.

            So, the computerized models cited by the Intergovernmental Panel on
            Climate Change made another assumption: that a hotter world would hold
            more moisture in its atmosphere. Since water vapor is the most effective
            greenhouse gas, the climate modelers claimed Earth might heat by 5 or
            even 10 degrees C. One scientist (who supposedly advises Pope Francis)
            recently claimed 12 degrees C (21 degrees F) of overheating!

            The awkward truth, however, is that NASA has monitored moisture in the atmosphere since 1980 – and water vapor has not increased
            despite the higher levels of CO2 in the air. Is that why the IPCC
            models have predicted more than twice as much warming as we’ve actually
            seen?

            The year 1936 recorded the hottest thermometer readings of any year
            in the last 5,000. However, these days NOAA reports only its “adjusted”
            temperatures, which always seem to go only higher. In fact, the first
            surge of human-emitted carbon dioxide after World War II should have produced the biggest surge of warming – if CO2 is the control factor. Instead temperatures went down from 1940 to 1975.

            Why did the computer models fail to predict (or even factor in)
            either the Pacific Oscillation’s current 20-year non-warming or the
            coming solar sunspot minimum?

            Only one model has verified itself by back-casting the temperatures
            and weather we’ve had over the past century. That model is from Nicola
            Scafetta at Duke University, and it’s based on solar, lunar and planetary cycles.
            The latest data from the CERN particle physics lab have also produced a
            model based on cycling – and it foresees no runaway warming. Instead,
            it sees an impending cold solar minimum.

            Is the long, wrong-headed war against carbon dioxide finally fading?
            Science certainly says it should. But perhaps there is still too much
            money, prestige and power in climate alarmism for that to happen.

            ___________

            Dennis T. Avery is an agricultural and environmental economist and a
            senior fellow for the Center for Global Food Issues in Virginia. He was
            formerly a senior analyst for the U.S. Department of State and is
            co-author, with S. Fred Singer, ofUnstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years.

          12. Bill O'Neil says

            Very good summation of the facts. Unfortunately, most of it falls on the deaf ears of the tRump cult members on this website.

          13. mac12sam12 says

            You’re too much! President Trump! The best President ever? What does Putin think? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYTfzfsbiUI

          14. niknar says

            Thanks!

            You’re right, but I still give it a try, hoping that there are people here & there that are capable of reasoning logically & have some knowledge of & trust in science.

          15. mac12sam12 says

            The liberals are anti-science. They think that there’s 56 genders.

          16. Ex-Liberal says

            A summation of what conclusion. Since earths temperature has evolved over the centuries, the science community still does not know what percentage does human involvement have. It could be a small percentage and the majority is from natural causes like volcanoes etc.

          17. Paul Taalman says

            96% of GHG is water vapour…yes, harmless water vapour. Of the remaining 4%, only .4% is CO2 which is what you exhale, is added to your soda and beer and is plant food. Without C02 everything on the planet would DIE! The government of Canada is proposing to close down our entire transportation system and half our agricultural system to meet bogus IPCC targets (all while the rest of the world runs full-steam ahead). Even if we stopped every plane, train, bus, car, truck, motorcycle, scooter of gas-powered skate board, for 5 years, one volcano would replace the same amount of carbon saved over 5 years, in ONE day! And there are 27 active volcanoes in the world RIGHT NOW!

        8. See Janus says

          Please don’t leave out Al Gore who made millions and millions from the mantra of global warming. Just to be accurate, however, there is substantial evidence of significant new toxic levels of carbon in the oceans.

          1. John Williams says

            He was mentioned in one of my previous posts to someone else. All life forms can be boiled down to carbon, I would not get too concerned about it.

        9. Jane Tarzan says

          Climate change happens – Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall. No mystery here.

          1. niknar says

            That’s right. And the fact that temperatures change according to season or time of day doesn’t controvert the fact that overall the planet is warming from year to year at an accelerating rate.

          2. hangem'high says

            What’s going to kill us first, warming or starvation?

            https://youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4

        10. AKLady says

          Come on up here to Alaska. We’ll be happy to rub your nose in climate change.

          1. niknar says

            So many changes going on in Alaska! It’s frightening!

          2. AKLady says

            With Trump having lifted the drilling bans, it is only going to get worse
            Alaska is ah oil and mining state, but there have been legal protections. .

          3. hangem'high says

            Got to Give the Muslims some competition,

          4. AKLady says

            Why do you engage in religious bigotry?

            The majority of America’s oil imports come from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Nigeria and Saudi Arabia. https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

            Saudi Arabia is America’s ally.
            Oh, and by the way, we are a net petroleum product exporter.

          5. hangem'high says

            What’s so bigoted about giving Muslims some competition?

            https://youtu.be/V44oxVdOSJw

          6. AKLady says

            Arab is a nationality.
            Islam is a religion.
            Christian terrorists are murdering in Africa and India.
            Why is it you do not object to those crimes against humanity?
            Arab people are killing other Arabs. They have been doing that for centuries.
            There are Muslims all over the world.
            You condemn the innocent with your religious bigotry.

          7. hangem'high says

            U R so FREAKING wrong on everything! It must be over crowded in your brain to have so much room in your Igloo?

            https://youtu.be/cbdtMLc2i38

          8. AKLady says

            Arab is a nationality.
            Islam is a religion.
            Christian terrorists are murdering in Africa and India.
            Why is it you do not object to those crimes against humanity?

          9. hangem'high says

            I hate it when the polar bears start running around nude!

          10. John Williams says

            Reading is not your strong suit is it, go back and reread my post. All that is required for the alter of climate change believers, is some bogus “model,” a bit of fraudulent data for said model and some “useful idiots” to keep repeating the bogus data.

          11. AKLady says

            I stopped reading at the sewer language.

          12. hangem'high says

            I hate taking care of business without reading material?

          13. hangem'high says

            I prefer U keep your legs closed!

        11. ernldo says

          Well said, but O’Neil is still trying to comprehend the first sentence. Demotards just drone what they’re told to drone, they’re ALL numb bots.

          1. John Williams says

            Yep

        12. Paul Taalman says

          Actually, climate change has been going on for about 4.5 BILLION years! At one point the atmosphere around Earth was so toxic almost nothing could live in it. Unfortunately, it was a Canadian who started the whole “Global Warming” nonsense – Maurice Strong when he was with the U.N. (United Nutbars) and figured it out as a way to extort money from successful Western Nations to give to third-world (read: Shit-hole) dictators to put into their Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts while he took a cut of the action – Google it.

          1. John Williams says

            I don’t know about who started it, but thanks, I will investigate that. My theory has always been, climate change is a natural phenomenon that is being hijacked by a bunch of dictators and despots as a means to control every man woman and child on the planet, I include in this list obama, one of the worst little despots the world has seen. A little thought will tell people that what better way to promote something that is going to allow these despots to gain control, and money as you say, than to convince people that only the governments of the world can save people from themselves.

        13. Stephen Leonhard says

          the thesis of global warming is highly suspect!

      3. paulrph1 says

        Is Al Gore your buddy?

      4. AE says

        Speaking of investing in ocean beachfront property, have you noticed that the banks have not stopped loaning money on the ocean front. Do you not think that if there was any truth at all to global warming that the banks would be willing to risk trillions of dollars on 20,30 and 40 year loans on ocean front property? The banks know that the land will be there 40 years from now just as it is right now, so don’t try to tell us of global warming when there is no truth to it.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          Tell that to the folks in Miami when their streets flood at high tide.

          1. AE says

            Boy you are just dense aren’t you, let me say again, banks will not loan money on the Titanic nor will would the want to lose money on flooded property. There is no global warming. Even NASA reported last month that all the world’s oceans have receeded, the only thing that could effect the world’s oceans like that is increased snowpack.

          2. Bill O'Neil says

            You just keep shoveling the BS.

          3. Retired says

            That is called a storm surge at high tide .

          4. Bill O'Neil says

            Wrong again, not related to storm surge. Don’t be afraid of using google, it is your friend.

          5. Retired says

            Bo you have people that live where I happens ???? You are talking out of your rear and spreading a lot of poop !!! Are you one of the Communist BOTS started by the Democrats . I have met Russian’s and they are not as stupid as you are when it comes to US politics .

          6. Bill O'Neil says

            Did you use google to find out the truth about your stupid storm surge comment?

          7. Retired says

            I happened to have lived on the east coast where it happened and not on google . Not only are you a ROBO TROLL but a computer guppy who believes what is written instead of what people actually saw and lived through .

          8. hangem'high says

            I believe its called building on a swamp, never a good idea!

          9. AE says

            Oh and by the way that flooding in Miami has been going on for many generations, its really quit the tourist novelty. And yes I live here in Florida, everyone knows about it, its natural.

          10. mac12sam12 says

            It’s called shore erosion, not rising seas you dummy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tuAJkbUWU

        2. Bill O'Neil says

          Banks don’t loan money on homes without insurance on the property.

      5. albaby2 says

        I have, I’m 40 miles inland but according to the climate change people, the sea ice will melt and the ocean will catch up to me.

        1. pineapple says

          Wear a life jacket!

      6. mac12sam12 says

        Al Gore did. What does that tell you. Climate changes an expensive scam and the ones who push it have private fuel guzzling private jets.

      7. cv says

        Climate is a complex area and few are competent to comment on it one way or another. The equations are nonlinear and chaotic, which means their predictive power is weak, at best, the further along in time you go. The person on the street who has read a couple popular articles might as well throw darts at a board of words while blindfolded to create their arguments.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          All the more reason to listen to the scientists than to a carnival barker sitting in the White House who can’t even spend five minutes to read his morning briefing papers.

          1. Retired says

            The carnival barker was Billy Boy with his buddy Gore jetting around the world collecting big bucks promoting climate change .

          2. cv says

            I initially was impressed by the work as a young scientist. Now, after studying the foundations for over a decade, I consider Gore to be an unprincipled opportunist utterly devoid of scientific judgement. He’s a carnival barker who made out big time. Plenty of marks!

          3. Retired says

            He is no different than what Lobbyist do for a living , screw the tax payer out of their money .

          4. pineapple says

            Delingpole: Now 400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth

            34791 ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP/Getty Images

            by James Delingpole24 Oct 20173,678

            When I reported earlier this year on the 58 scientific papers published in 2017 that say global warming is a myth the greenies’ heads exploded.

            Since then, that figure has risen to 400 scientific papers.

            Can you imagine the misery and consternation and horror this is going
            to cause in the corrupt, rancid, rent-seeking world of the Climate
            Industrial Complex?

            I can. It will look something like this.

            Just to be clear, so the greenies can’t bleat about being misrepresented, here is what these various papers say:

            Modern temperatures, sea levels, and extreme weather
            events are neither unusual nor unprecedented. Many regions of the
            Earth are cooler now than they have been for most of the last 10,000
            years.

            Natural factors such as the Sun (106 papers), multi-decadal
            oceanic-atmospheric oscillations such as the NAO, AMO/PDO, ENSO (37
            papers), decadal-scale cloud
            cover variations, and internal variability in general have exerted a
            significant influence on weather and climate changes during both the
            past and present. Detecting a clear anthropogenic forcing signal amidst
            the noise of unforced natural variability may therefore be difficult.

            And current emissions-mitigation policies, especially related to the
            advocacy for renewables, are often costly, ineffective, and perhaps even
            harmful to the environment. On the other hand, elevated CO2 and a
            warmer climate provide unheralded benefits to the biosphere (i.e., a
            greener planet and enhanced crop yields).

            In other words, nobody is denying that climate changes, nobody is
            denying that the planet has warmed by 0.8 degrees C in the last 150
            years, while only a handful deny that carbon dioxide (and other
            greenhouse gases) has the power to influence temperatures.

            What they are saying in their different ways is that “global warming”
            – as in the big scare story that the planet is heating up at a
            catastrophic unprecedented rate because of man-made CO2 emissions – is
            bunk; or that the methods being used to combat the problem are bunk.

            Here – courtesy of Kenneth Richard, who has waded through them all – are some examples of what they say.

            It’s the sun, stupid! (106 papers stress solar influence on climate)

            Li et al., 2017

            It has been widely suggested from both climate modeling
            and observation data that solar activity plays a key role in driving
            late Holocene climatic fluctuations by triggering global temperature
            variability and atmospheric dynamical circulation

            Yndestad and Solheim, 2017

            Periods with few sunspots are associated with low solar
            activity and cold climate periods. Periods with many sunspots are
            associated with high solar activity and warm climate periods.

            Tejedor et al., 2017

            The main driver of the large-scale character of the warm and cold episodes may be changes in the solar activity

            Climate influenced by natural oscillation (eg El Nino; La Nina)

            Belohpetsky et al., 2017

            It is well known that most short term global temperature variability is due to the well-defined ENSO natural oscillation

            Park et al., 2017

            According to our results, the central Mexican climate has
            been predominantly controlled by the combined influence of the 20-year
            Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and the 70-year Atlantic Multidecadal
            Oscillation (AMO).

            Lim et al., 2017

            Our study demonstrated that floodfrequency and climate
            changes at centennial-to-millennial time scales in South Korea have been
            coupled mainly with ENSO activity

            Modern climate in phase with natural variability

            Conroy et al., 2017

            20th century precipitation variability in southern Tibet
            falls within the range of natural variability in the last 4100 yr, and
            does not show a clear trend of increasing precipitation as projected by
            models

            Verdon-Kidd et al., 2017

            Overall, the inter-annual and inter-decadal variability
            of rainfall and runoff observed in the modern record (Coefficient of
            Variation (CV) of 22% for rainfall, 42% for runoff) is similar to the
            variability experienced over the last 500 years (CV of 21% for rainfall
            and 36% for runoff).

            Volcano/Tectonic Influence on Climate

            Viterito, 2017

            This yields a coefficient of determination of .662,
            indicating that HGFA [high geothermal flux area] seismicity accounts for
            roughly two-thirds of the variation in global temperatures since 1979.

            Huhtemaa and Helama, 2017

            [M]ore than half of the agricultural crises in the study region can be associated with cooling caused by volcanism.

            Greenhouse Effect Not the Main Driver of Climate

            Blaauw, 2017

            This paper demonstrates that globalwarming can be explained without recourse to the greenhouse theory

            Munshi, 2017

            …No evidence is found that changes in atmospheric CO2 are related to fossil fuel emissions at an annual time scale.

            Reinhart, 2017

            Our results permit to conclude that CO2 is a very weak
            greenhouse gas and cannot be accepted as the main driver of climate
            change

            Climate Models are Unreliable/The Pause is Real

            Blackall, 2017

            The science publication Nature Climate Change this year published a study demonstrating Earth
            this century warmed substantially less than computer-generated climate
            models predict. Unfortunately for public knowledge, such findings don’t
            appear in the news.

            Rosenblum and Eisenman, 2017

            Observations indicate that the Arctic sea ice cover is
            rapidly retreating while the Antarctic sea ice cover is steadily
            expanding. State-of-the-art climate models, by contrast, typically
            simulate a moderate decrease in both the Arctic and Antarctic sea ice
            covers.

            Ahlström et al., 2017

            We conclude that climate bias-induced uncertainties must
            be decreased to make accurate coupled atmosphere-carbon cycle
            projections.

            Zhou and Wang, 2017

            Despite the ongoing increase in atmospheric greenhouse
            gases, the global mean surface temperature (GMST) has remained rather
            steady and has even decreased in the central and eastern Pacific since
            1998. This cooling trend is referred to as the global “warming hiatus”

            Renewable Energy/Climate Policies are Failing

            Janković and Shultz, 2017

            [A] preindustrial climate may remain a policy goal, but it is unachievable in reality

            Heard et al., 2017

            While many modelled scenarios have been published
            claiming to show that a 100% renewable electricity system is achievable,
            there is no empirical or historical evidence that demonstrates that
            such systems are in fact feasible.

            Emery et al., 2017

            The total social costs of ethanol blends are higher than
            that of gasoline, due in part to higher life-cycle emissions of non-GHG
            pollutants and higher health and mortality costs per unit.

            Qiao et al., 2017

            BEVs [Battery Electric Vehicles] are designed to obtain
            more environmental benefits, but the energy consumption and GHG
            emissions of BEV production are much larger than those of ICEV [Internal
            Combustion Engine Vehicles] production in China.

            Wind Power Harming the Environment

            Frick et al., 2017

            Our resultssuggest that wind energy development may pose a substantial threat to migratory bats in North America.

            Liu and Barlow, 2017

            The research
            indicates that there will be 43 million tonnes of blade waste worldwide
            by 2050 with China possessing 40% of the waste, Europe 25%, the United
            States 16% and the rest of the world 19%.

            Vasilakis et al., 2017

            Numerous wind farms are planned in a region hosting the only cinereous vulture population in south-eastern Europe […]

            […] Even under the most optimistic scenario whereby authorized
            proposals will not collectively exceed the national target for wind
            harnessing in the study area (960 MW), cumulative collision mortality
            would still be high (17% of current population) and likely lead to population extinction.

            In 2016 there were 500 peer-reviewed scientific papers published in scholarly journals (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3) challenging “consensus” climate science.

            Together with these 400 new papers, that makes 900 science papers in the last two years casting doubt on global warming.

            CONSENSUS? WHAT CONSENSUS??

          5. cv says

            I’m one of the scientists—except I’m in mathematical physics and understand the underlying mathematics far better than most climate scientists do. Trump has actually done exactly the right thing: pulled out of a deal where those making the deal were listening only to the scientists they wanted to listen to. Chaos and nonlinearity make the models unreliable; entropy virtually guarantees their solutions will not be viable. Verdict: More study and discovery required before burning trillions of dollars on systems that cannot possibly reverse the processes.

          6. hangem'high says

            I’m no scientist, but I do know how to make methane gas!

          7. cv says

            They’ll have to install methane detectors in all the crappers and automatically charge our credit cards every time we let one!

          8. hangem'high says

            Chet, I was hoping it had some monetary value to science in general?

      8. Retired says

        The left wing ROBO TROLL is out spewing garbage and hate .

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          I leave that line of work to you RWNJ’s.

          1. Retired says

            You are as AFU as AK and spew crap just like it does , better watch out that you don’t choke on the lumps !!!!

      9. mac12sam12 says

        Two yeas ago Mr. Global warming himself bought beach front property in CA. You remember Gore, the guy who in 2000 said the oceans would cover every town along the coast by 2012.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          You are just like tRump, you can’t say anything without sticking a big fat lie in before you finish.

          1. mac12sam12 says

            What changed the climate before man was on Earth? crickets..crickets..cricket

          2. Bill O'Neil says

            See above comments by niknar. Lays it out very clearly.

          3. mac12sam12 says

            Explain to me please.

          4. mrpoohead says

            Carting animals, meteorites, volcanoes, the landmass being in a different place. All sorts!

          5. hangem'high says

            NO WEATHER?

          6. mrpoohead says

            Think you’ll find, animals aside, that all greatly affects the weather and its patterns.

          7. hangem'high says

            Point taken;

            https://youtu.be/2KnZlbuapww

            The sun, the atmosphere, water, carbon, oxygen the moon and fake scientists

          8. mrpoohead says

            Neither side has a winning argument.
            If, the knock on effect is cleaner water and air for the next generation and free, renewable energy then I guess I’ll learn to live with that. Despite the dodgy science on both sides it is at least for the greater good.

          9. hangem'high says

            The end game here is who is in control of the resources and who is worthy to receives them

            Thank God Trump withdrew from the Paris accords

            https://youtu.be/TzEEgtOFFlM

            And killary and O Bummer are in Hiding

            2030, 2050

          10. mrpoohead says

            That’s a really dumb comment.
            If the end game is renewables no one can own the sun, wind, wave power. It’s just there! Moron!

          11. hangem'high says

            That’s what the American Indians thought about the land! U can own something that belongs to the Great Spirit!

          12. mrpoohead says

            Well if the sun stops shining it’ll all be irrelevant. Doubt the wind will stop or the waves and the Great Spirit was a guide, maybe it took them somewhere better.

          13. hangem'high says

            Some may think it’s irreverent I just wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.

            I could see where a pocket full of beads would feel lot better

            https://youtu.be/x2M3y8wH13I

            Then dirt under my feet

          14. mrpoohead says

            Why will it be “irreverent”?
            Do you have anything other than entertaining language or conspiracy theory?
            Recommend growing up.

          15. hangem'high says

            Well, take yourself for example? As much as U try to be irreverent in US affairs or conservative sites the more U are irrelevant! It must be a Jewish thing? Next you’ll be telling me how wonderful Islam and the Luciferian thingy is? I got say; I do find your kind sort of amusing….. After U?

          16. mrpoohead says

            Whilst I am occasionally irreverent and sarcastic, mostly everything I say is factually correct.
            That’s why I’ve never been refuted.
            Fundamentalists are the ones that skew religion – denomination is irrelevant. No one has the moral high ground, but Christianity started it.
            As I do not “believe” I presume Lucifer too is fictitious, so wouldn’t know and care even less.

      10. john robel says

        NEWS FLASH———-NEWS FLASH—– GLOBAL COOLING KILLS DINOSAURS, NEANDERTHALS PREDICT EXPECTED RISE IN PETROLEUM PRODUCTION AND DECLINE IN FEMALE CLUBBINGS FOR FIREWOOD !!!!!!!!

    2. SD of AZ says

      Evidently they don’t want him now either. But I concur, he is more an entertainer than a scientist! And a left leaning one at that!

      1. Terry Osborn says

        Bill Nye has Absolutely NO DEGREE in actual Science. That’s all he is,is an entertainer and a Bad one at that with all his colluding with the Fake Science and Scammers like Al Gore.

        1. Knowledge Transfer says

          Science is often times used to masquerade SWAG – Scientific Wild Ass Guessing.

      2. john robel says

        AND JUST WHOM DOES HE “ENTERTAIN”? HE ONLY ENTERTAINS LEFTIST CHICKEN LITTLE IDEOLOGIES.

        1. Retired says

          While he fills his pockets from those who listen to him .

    3. Eric Pearson says

      Bill Nye studied mechanical engineering at Cornell University (where he took an astronomy class taught by Carl Sagan) and graduated with a BS in mechanical engineering in 1977. Nye occasionally returns to Cornell as a guest-lecturer of introductory-level astronomy and human ecology classes.
      After graduating from Cornell, Nye worked as an engineer for the Boeing Corporation and Sundstrand Data Control near Seattle. While at Boeing, he invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor tube used on Boeing 747 airplanes.
      I think his opinions and observations are worth listening to. Who among you cult members have invented anything used on a Boeing 747?

      1. Mathew Molk says

        Engineer huh? 10 bucks say he can’t design a draw slide that won’t drop your underwear on your feet..

        If he is an engineer why does he have to resort to telling lies to kids to make a living. – (I’m a MR Wizard guy myself just for the record)

      2. John Williams says

        I do not doubt his credentials as a “mechanical engineer,” that is not what I said, the fact is, HE IS NOT A CLIMATE SCIENTIST, the left attempts to portray him as such and the useful idiots eat it up. He is entitled to his opinion as are you or I, one major problem with the church of the climate worshipers, is the fact their opinions are based on a “model,” not fact, a model that has data manipulated on multiple occasions, garbage in garbage out. There are many actual scientist who disagree with the current projections. I do not deny climate change, it has been happening for millennia, our weather and climate goes thru cycles, always has, what I do deny is that man has ANY significant effect on it. We are constantly changing, I am old enough to remember both the global warming and the global cooling fiascos, it was a settled science back then as well and had I bought into either of them we would have either had our coastal cities under water or we would have all froze to death in the dark, neither happened at the predicted time or rate. Climate change is nothing more than a massive attempt by a bunch of NWO greedy henchmen, a bunch of despots and dictators who see a NATURAL phenomenon as the means to control every man woman and child on the planet and an excuse to raise taxes to do their dirty work. A prime example of the equation is Al Gore, a man who stands to make billions from it, if any of these people really cared about the climate, they would conduct both their personal lives and their political lives a lot different.

      3. pineapple says

        I studied Chemical Engineering at Georgia Tech. And completed graduate level courses in Thermodynamics and Advanced Heat Transfer. I also invented filter devices for high viscosity polymers.

        Does that make me an expert in global warming, and does that make my opinions and observations worth listening to?

        If so, don’t listen to Bill Nye, because he is no more of an expert than I am.

    4. Mark Brickey says

      Even my Jr. High science students can disprove so much of what he blathers!

    5. mrpoohead says

      No side own climate change, many of the committed countries have conservative governments. Duh!

      1. John Williams says

        Stupid is universal, just look at your post.

        1. mrpoohead says

          My post was factual correct, which makes you somewhat retarded.

          1. John Williams says

            You have edited your original post for syntax, you may want to look at your current post as well. I stand behind my comment from my previous post, stupid is universal, just because you think some countries are conservative, that alone, does not make them smart.

          2. mrpoohead says

            I added an “s” to “own”. Whoop!
            My post is, was and always will be correct – “s” or no “s”. Funny as!
            And, I actually did it after the second post. Ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!
            Suggest you look up the countries then get back to me.

          3. John Williams says

            Just out of curiosity, how do you own climate change? Do you deny my “original post,” you no the one you just had to butt into, about the fact that Nye is NOT a scientist, his ONLY credibility on the subject is no different than yours and mine, an opinion only. He would be better served entertaining children.

          4. mrpoohead says

            You must be smarter than I – Nye has a degree from Cornell in mechanical engineering and studied astronomy there. He lectures there in astronomy and human ecology.
            Nobody owns climate change science. Neither side has a winning argument. Gaping holes in both.
            The “science” is supported by both sides of politics and criticized by both. It is not specifically “left”. Duh!

          5. John Williams says

            “Nye has a degree from Cornell in mechanical engineering and studied
            astronomy there. He lectures there in astronomy and human ecology.” Now what did I just say in my last post, HE IS NOT A SCIENTIST, his opinion means no more to me than most of the Hollywood idiots who seem think everyone cares what they think. I disagree, those from the cult of climate change do not have a winning argument, they have a “climate model” that they claim is fact, but they must keep doctoring the data to make it justify their conclusions, they make the conclusion they desire and then fit the model to that conclusion, credibility is lost, garbage in garbage out.Your statement ” It is not specifically “left”. is, I believe also off, it is primarily left by a wide margin, left wing liberals operate only on feelings and any half baked so called fact they can cling to, they also have a very STRONG belief that people cannot help themselves that only the left and the government can save them from themselves.

          6. mrpoohead says

            You’re obviously too smart for me – there was me thinking that both are in the body of sciences. Funny as!
            A good many European countries and peers are currently conservative – UK, Germany, NZ and Australia and that’s without looking any up. Duh!

  4. RobertNorwood says

    The left has a black list and it does not take much for one to get on it. We’ve seen this all before, whether left right or in-between self appointed apostles of political correctness will damn you, ruin your life, ruin your career, family, everything in order to serve their greater good.
    I don’t care for Nye so fair enough, what made him think that in his lib left world it was okay to make his own political decisions? Libs will turn on their own like a pack of rabid dogs at the slightest hint of straying from the fold.

    1. James D Vaughn says

      Global warming, climate change is not changed by human activity, but by our Lord whenever He sees fit!

  5. MAHB001 says

    When Scientist discovered global cooling, Politicians
    proclaimed, we need more money. When Global cooling didn’t turned out to be
    wrong, it was changed to global warming, and once again, the Governor of CA
    proclaimed from his mansion, We need more TAXES… and control of the states waters. When Global
    warming didn’t pan out, Climate change was invented. And Al Gore proclaimed
    from the stairway of his 777, More TAXES, and control of all gas and
    electricity production. .

    I am with the founder of the Climate Channel Gary Coleman. I
    believe that money has corrupted scientific results. Politicians see climate
    change as an opportunity to tax and the Scientists

    1. mrpoohead says

      Unfortunately neither side has the moral high ground here. Neither have a convincing argument – big gaping holes in both.

    2. Mathew Molk says

      I don’t know….I have been freezing my ass off more then usual for the last 2 winters. If you don’t ever work outside in the winter you have no idea about global cooling. Haven’t left the house during the week with without my insulated Redwings in weeks.

      1. MAHB001 says

        I feel your pain…. Today it is almost noon and it is only 67 degrees outside… 🙂

        Sorry, The only positive right now about living in CA is the weather….

        1. mrpoohead says

          ………and the cheap pool cleaners?

          1. hangem'high says

            Is that usually a good place to get up?

  6. chuckie2u says

    Having been trained in science one would have to believe a true scientist would at all costs use the scientific method to determine research with the results determining conclusions. Now the government pays off the scientific community via grants to give the political results desired.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      If you get a grant to find global warming and don’t find it there will be no more grants,,,,and on that subject. Let’s knock off the federal grants. I don’t have much interest in the sex habits of the stink bug.

  7. James D Vaughn says

    There is no such thing as global warming, that’s only God’s business!

    1. MAHB001 says

      Trust in the Lord and he shall provide.

      The Left trusts in politicians, whom shall rape and pillage.

      1. mrpoohead says

        Whereas the Lord will give you the death penalty for blasphemy, disobeying your parents, adultery, witchcraft and not being a virgin on your wedding night – girls only.
        Rape and pillage sound pretty good by comparison.

        1. hangem'high says

          Doesn’t sound like your to uppity on Grace, but did U know for a small fee U can purchase these Demo- bots on the web that will thumb up your post without being so obvious????

          1. mrpoohead says

            Up voting amuses me and confounds the retards.
            I’m quite happy educating the latter with facts. Amuses me actually.
            Never refuted!

          2. hangem'high says

            Not to worry you’re not the only one to fine oneself alone and dying for attention!

            https://youtu.be/dSKcNsi89sQ

          3. mrpoohead says

            I know of no other country and I’ve been a lot of places were politics is so full of conspiracy theory and bitchiness. I find it very immature. Satire is entertaining even to the side being teased. It’s like it comes down to the lowest common denominator – the playground.
            Most countries argue policy, I guess the difference between the Democrats and Republicans is so small (LGBT, abortion and gun regulation) that they are reduced to childish games. Maybe this is why America has the worst turnout by 20%+ at election times. Why bother?
            I’m not on my own, I’m merely on a site that has only conspiracy theory and the ignorant – entertains me. Few others can be bothered with them.

          4. hangem'high says

            Most lefties are zombies waiting for lighting to strike ‘Em, when it does hit…. only then do they realize that the commies have infiltrated both parties, FBI, CIA, and have weaponized the weather.

            https://youtu.be/0lXf-weM3zk

            so U should like this bit of info?

          5. mrpoohead says

            You are. You’re obviously in a time warp or an episode of the “Twilight Zone”. Funny as!

          6. hangem'high says

            U don’t realize how close to the truth U R until U R there!

            https://youtu.be/r_TqeOfPkk8

            never wake up to surprises!

          7. mrpoohead says

            I suggest you leave the basement and get a life – the world is mostly a nice place. Only dummies stay at home and fret.

          8. hangem'high says

            Once you leave your backyard, I would say all bets are off?

            https://youtu.be/opVz7HZAXLo

            I like my SafeSpace!

          9. mrpoohead says

            Thankfully freak events are “freak” events. unfortunately all the freaks seem to have embraced far right twaddle.

          10. hangem'high says

            Well if it makes U sleep better at night why not?

            https://youtu.be/Cp4b67bp3gs

            They’re all controlled events!

          11. mrpoohead says

            Ahhh, the “Twilight Zone”.
            Persecution of Muslims, Bosnian Genocide, Rwandan Genocide, Lord’s Resistance Army. And, who started it all? The Pope with the Crusades. Seems no one has a moral high ground.

          12. hangem'high says

            I’m sure the Rothschild Jews have that mortgage secured!

            https://youtu.be/kmMR4i5wZtg

          13. mrpoohead says

            Fiction is not prediction. Funny though!

  8. JCluvsTrump says

    Bill Nye never graduated from high school. He’s no science guy. He is a fraud!!

    1. Bill O'Neil says

      Can you do anything besides telling lies? Bill Nye has a degree in mechanical engineering from Cornell University.

      1. JCluvsTrump says

        No he does not. He has a degree in MS-13.

        1. Bill O'Neil says

          You lie as easily as your cult leader tRump.

          1. JCluvsTrump says

            Bill, eat my swanze.

        2. Robert Dostoevsky says

          And you have one in ignorance.

          1. JCluvsTrump says

            TRUMP!! MAGA!!

          2. JCluvsTrump says

            No, but I do have one in law.

          3. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Based on your asinine posts, that is not obvious. I Have a few attorney friends but none would post some of the ridiculous things you do.

          4. JCluvsTrump says

            Yeah, your ambulance chaser friends told you that, did they?

          5. JCluvsTrump says

            You don’t know me asswipe. You know nothing about me. Go kill yourself and do the world a favor.

          6. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Thanks for proving my point.

          7. hangem'high says

            I’m a self-phycologist I can evaluate everyone from afar, all whites are raciest, and all blacks lack father figures!

      2. mac12sam12 says

        That qualifies him as a climatologist?

        1. Mathew Molk says

          Yea, All you need to do is read Alensky’s book and be a useful idiot.

          1. hangem'high says

            Can we all agree he has a BS degree, because we all know he’s not a scientist except for the Demo-Turds?

      3. mac12sam12 says
    2. Ray Taylor says

      I believe you are mistaken. He is a Mechanical Engineer from Cornell. I suspect he finished high school before Cornell accepted him.

    3. Robert Dostoevsky says

      Why post bullshit? Nye is a graduate engineer.

      1. JCluvsTrump says

        He is not. He is a terrorist.

        1. Robert Dostoevsky says

          And you have nothing intelligent to contribute.

          1. JCluvsTrump says

            And you are one dumb Polock.

          2. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Guess again, not Polish.

          3. JCluvsTrump says

            Russian?

          4. Robert Dostoevsky says

            Very much American.

          5. JCluvsTrump says

            Good for you.

          6. JCluvsTrump says

            Welcome to loserville. Population YOU!!

  9. MIKE6080 says

    like to see who these 500 women scientists are and what are their greatest accomplishments

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Same as any scientist in the last 50 years. – Nothing.

      Are there any doctors or microbiologists that come up with vaccines and things like that would let themselves be branded as a scientist? – Same with anybody that comes up with new metallurgy or abrasives or any REAL discoveries or development.

      Not on your life….They work for a living.

      Scientists on the other hand are parasites that get paid from grants funded by people that work for a living and pay taxes and never come up with anything that is actually useful to “make” something. I can’t tell you any scientist that works in the private sector. Universities with government grants are the bailiwick of scientists.

      1. MIKE6080 says

        just like community organizers- parasites

      2. Robert Dostoevsky says

        How about:
        GPS
        MRI
        Electronic Ignition
        MP3 player
        And for you, Prozac
        There are more but I thought a few would suffice.

  10. chuckkel says

    Whats wrong with climate change? Who says that we now have the perfect climate worldwide? Why worry about carbon dioxide that makes up a puny 4 tenths of one percent in the atmosphere, plants need it survive. Worry about our narrow oxygen tolerance levels of 19.5% to 23.5%

    1. Mathew Molk says

      The more CO2 the more plants. The more plants the more oxy they put out. – Children, Can you say “Self Regulating”

  11. VirgoVince says

    There is NO END to dumocommie BULLSHIT!!

  12. paulrph1 says

    Let’s get this straight right now. Nye is not a science guy. I know it rhymes but that does not make it true. Nye has used this as a way to give himself some sort of credibility. He is an engineer and yes they use science in their work but they are not scientists. Unless you are a chemical engineer.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      It would have been a LOT better for the kids if he had been Bill Nye the Engineering Guy,,,or how bout Bill Nye, The Woodworking Guy. ,,,,Oh, He cant cut it in either of those disciplines. The results are tangible and real but his can be total bullshit and nobody will see it because all you have is his commie word for it.

  13. jimdarnall says

    Bill Nye is a fraud and has always been a fraud. Sadly many children have been his followers believing his sin of lying. A disgrace to the word, Science.

  14. RichFromShowMe says

    Wonder if Nye saw this leaked copy of the Adam Schiff (aka Sheriff Woody) memo?

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/562387072210330098/

  15. Valor says

    Oh, boo hoo! Suck it up buttercups! We had to for 8 loooooonnnnng years!

  16. Valor says

    By the way, aren’t these the same scientists who were predicting a new ice age not too many years ago? Just asking.

    1. Robert Dostoevsky says

      Not the same, today the majority agrees with global warming, the ice-age theory was a minority opinion.

  17. SD of AZ says

    It is all squishy with libs no matter their profession. They all seem to lose focus on their profession and insert their politics into all of it. Too bad. A group of scientist now have lost total credibility thanks to these scientific geniuses or so they think! Reminds me of the la la land princes and princesses of hollyweed. Too much personal opinion injected that ruins their work ethic. Hum? For entertainers hitting them in their sales is the ticket. But for scientist, saying they have no standing, that their work is tainted like the climate change fiasco is death to their reputations. I deem this bunch dead or DOA as in dead on arrival. From this day forward we know these people will not present scientific truths and facts, just opinions tainted by politics.

  18. jim_shipley says

    Don’t get so up set. They are just more liberal zombies that our colleges produce along with their debt.

  19. homer1057 says

    SCIENCE: IF scientists were REALLY truthful, then they would admit that science proves “Evolution” the Big Bang “THEORY”, global warming and climate change are nothing more than an attempt to get “CONTROL’ of this world and deceive, IF it were possible, the very elect! The King James Bible, yes that’s the ONLY Bible, says: “In the beginning GOD created the heaven and the earth”…Genesis 1:1 PROVE the TRUTH w/science not what scientists want people to think! There is JUST NO way that this world and all it many facets of all that goes on today, could even go on and function except there is an UNSEEN hand to guide! Why man can’t even tell you, me or us, how bones grow in the womb. NO ONE can tell how one egg/sperm cell goes from that to bone or teeth or the ligaments and heart valves etc etc. How does the Ocean perpetuate itself and how do the seasons wane and return in their own time and how does OIL get in the earth for extraction? Man answers so little questions and knows only a fraction of the TRUTH of how this earth was created and operates, it is just to funny for words! I have a KJV Bible that says…IN THE Beginning “GOD”…and I believe that and stand right there! YOU show me a better answer, and I’ll take that! Until then PROVE what I said, wrong, then we will see!

    1. Robert Dostoevsky says

      Try taking a couple of biology classes, that will explain a few of your biological questions. As to some of your other comments, I am concerned about your education. If you dont understand the seasons then you should sue the school district where you were educated.

  20. FEDUP CONSERVATIVE says

    YES, their is “CLIMATE CHANGE” it has been around for 4.5 billion years!! The problem is we cannot control it!! It has turned from SNOWball earth to very hot. It will continue to be around long after we are gone.

    1. hangem'high says

      The weather has been weaponized by Rothschild and Rockefellers

      https://youtu.be/L8eO5BYHop8

  21. Col C says

    Wow, it does kind of seem like Nye is a sell out, in a leftist’s mind, but it will always amaze me that leftists are the only ones with scientists, and there are no conservative scientists, lol. How can a political group claim the scientific realm? These leftists really live in their own little, self-made worlds, and they have tried to drive out, and destroy all scientists who don’t subscribe to their particular brand of science, that denies anything that doesn’t fit with their radical agenda. These are the same people who think that a 54 old man, that thinks he is a 6 year old girl and wears tutus, is perfectly sane, but Donald Trump is mentally unstable, because he wants to keep potential terrorists out of our country.

  22. albaby2 says

    Noticed how the women can’t seem to know the difference between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. That’s like not being able to tell the difference between the women scientists and prostitutes. Actually, I don’t know if there is any, but like the things they accuse Trump of, who needs proof, right?

  23. SILENTHAMMER says

    Hey….this guy Bridenstine sounds like my kind of Congressman! Humans influence “climate change” about as much as reason influences liberals’ minds (or a flea affects a whale’s ass). And “gay marriage” isn’t. Oh, and “immigration” is a legal term meaning the ACCEPTANCE of applicants to assimilate into a NATION’s culture. So….what’s the problem? Oh, that’s right….lefties just gotta be LEFT!

    1. hangem'high says

      The weather has been weaponized by Rothschild and Rockefellers

  24. Allen says

    I am sure that title should read “500 Stupid White Women Scientists” said….blah, blah, blah. Nye is a moron, and it sounds like these women are also.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      How many will come up with 35 year old sexual harassment allegations against him?

      It;s the Wol-uf,,,,it’s the Wol-uf.

  25. TommyBoy918 says

    Bill Nye The Lying Guy

  26. Frick says

    he ain’t even a scientist!! he is an leftist idiotic instigator!!

  27. metalchristian says

    Not even a scientist! Another emasculated, progressive, liberal “man”

  28. TPS12 says

    “500 Women Scientists” said that Nye had cast his lot with the wrong crowd: Even though I don’t care for nye, maybe they just don’t like him because he’s a Man and now they found an excuse to take him down?

    1. hangem'high says

      These same 500 women could double as psychologist and make lots of money evaluating men on MSN, CBS, or CNN, or they could be flown to Europe and find out why the mass migration of Muslims men and why global warming and white women make them so horny?
      They should make sure they ware KuntKapz!

  29. Eric Pearson says

    The Republican Party is in full-blown panic mode.

    It was just reported that Rep. Devin Nunes, chair of the House Intelligence Committee, altered a memo that the FBI said raised “grave concerns” before he sent it to Trump’s White House for review.

    GOP leaders are absolutely terrified of the growing obstruction of justice case Robert Mueller is building against Donald Trump. They know that if you pull one thread, the entire administration — and their extreme agenda — could quickly come unraveled.

    That’s why they’re pulling out all the stops, trying to release a bogus memo, editing the memo after it’s been voted on, and allowing Trump and his team a chance to weigh in before they’ve even made their sham memo publicly available.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Are you busting balls or are you just a balls out asshole?

      Panic mode? – Look at the Hiiirat, Blow-See, Chuck the Schmuck and the rest of the snotballs that pull stunt after stupid stunt that all have blown up in their faces. They are the ones throwing all the Hail Marys and not a one of them has connected so far.

      The only commie victory in the past 2 years has been getting the hay seeds in Alabama ot fall for the bitches lies about Moore. They were all debunked and now any broad comming forward with 20 year old sexual allegations is branded a liar.

      The NWO Marxist party is on the run and the death spiral has begun. They have become even less credible then Bill Nye, The commie bullshit guy.

    2. Ursus_Indomitus says

      Get lost, moron.

    3. bob says

      you really should back away from msm, your head will soon clear! your editing agenda doesnt hold water, you dont have any evidence showing nunes made any changes to the memo, it was given out for the people, the committee must have read it and if changes were made they would have said so. unless your talking about dotting i’s and crossing t’s! your a never trump, get a life, yours has been corrupted by the pysic agenda msm puts out!

    4. hangem'high says

      It looks like the FAKE news has rotted your brain along with the rest of the Demo –Turds!

      https://youtu.be/g4LR6hEOspw

  30. rocky63 says

    Nye is no real scientist. I am on the political right and want nothing to do with that guy. His half-baked defense of half-baked “climate science” is a great reason to ignore him and try to shut him up on the topic. Interesting that even those who CLAIM to be real scientists keep their distance from him — but their own inability to recognize that the “climate change” world is garbage causes me to conclude that their opinion of him doesn’t matter. They can follow their own biases.

    1. bob says

      his science guy show is for children mostly, i have watched his show twice, it was educational and informative! he needs to be edited before he goes on the air, hes robbing children of a proper education if he gives his opinions , he should just stick to the facts!

  31. rick meek says

    NYE like politicians – judges and DC lawyers are an embarrassment to the creditable ones in the fields…

  32. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

    Its all about shutting down energy production. If climate change is so detrimental to the earth’s future, then eliminate the cause. People. Next eliminate all oil based products. Then we can live as the caveman did. But no, the elitist won’t go that far. They will still have their oil to jet around in and live in mansions. Only the populace that will have to comply. Eliminate oil, then you will not have wind generators or solar panels & batteries.
    The goal is to suck in all the money possible for the elites but, will not change nature PERIOD.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      I have many times volunteer to go to snowflakes houses and pull their electric meter and cut the service loop and cut and cap their gas and water lines and fill their chimneys with concrete and tow their motor vehicles away when I leave…….No takers.

      1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

        Yep- The greenies are so friggin brain dead its beyond belief. 100% of everything people interact with is based on oil. Covered wagons on the Oregon trail required grease for axles. We can go back 100’s of years and find oil usage. they rely on ignorance to further their agenda. they have yet to come up with a replacement for oil. if there was one, the business community would have exploited it as they have done with oil.

        1. Ursus_Indomitus says

          And NOBODY who whines about overpopulation will off themselves for the “common good”.

          1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

            True- its only about money. The people it hurts the most are the ones that work to feed their families. $4/gal of gas hurts the lower income not the high income.

          2. Ursus_Indomitus says

            Leftists and RINOs only care about themselves and their agendas.

      2. bob says

        epa says 2024 new cars will have to get 54 mpg! mean while manufactures have lost their minds, 750 hp vettes and 1000 dodges! co2 emissions from internal combustion vehicles are measured by the ton per year! audi has stopped making icv’s, they are always a step ahead, i thank them for their concern!

  33. Mathew Molk says

    Scientist,,,,An unproductive guy that couldn’t cut it as an engineer and depends on grants and other peoples nickle to keep them in business.

    What has Nye ever built other then controversy. The only tangable thing he was ever a (small) part of was helping the royal exalted boma close factories, mines and power plants and put Americans out of work. Who need this jerk? ,,,, In fact sine we are done with the Russians in the space race who need NASA. You know why we never went back to the Moon. THERE’S NOTHING THERE!

  34. safari1024 says

    Interesting, these women would be the first to complain about “slut shaming” when discussing the “mettoo movement”, but then engage in guilt by association shaming because Nye went to the State of the Union. Hypocrite alert!

  35. Harold says

    As the article says ‘Facts are facts, no matter how uncomfortable they may be.’ Climate change is not 100% supported by the scientific community. Just about 96%. But with the help of the coal and oil industries providing fake news…

  36. See Janus says

    This is the fascist Politically Correct movement at its ugliest. These militant lesbians who hold cushy jobs with zero accountability to the public cannot stand the fact that Nye put a toe “out of line” without their approval. Fascists. Fascism. Please keep the police state separate from this group, or these women will be ordering “Off With His Head” whenever they feel like it.

    1. kanewas says

      When fake lesbian scientists run in packs no cuck is safe!

  37. alevanpa says

    are the writers really “scientists?”

  38. Phil Esposito says

    fgsd

  39. Phil Esposito says

    It’s so wonderful to see the left eat it’s own. They are like the movie “Highlander”…….. in the end, there can be only one.

  40. Jane Tarzan says

    No sympathy for Bill Nye. Now he sees just how inclusive the Left really is. The eat their own.

    1. Joseph Carrilho says

      ….. cannibalizing parasites…..

      1. kanewas says

        My thoughts

    2. kanewas says

      Exactly

  41. dave72 says

    You misspelled “The Seance Guy.”

    1. bob says

      why dont you go through all our posts and correct us? what a nerd!

      1. dave72 says

        It is a joke on Nye claiming to be the Science guy. He is more skilled in seances, numerology, and phrenology.

        1. bob says

          i apologize, i thought we had another english self appointed policeman!

          1. Joseph Carrilho says

            I’m not here to bust you but, English is spelled with a capitol E.
            Ain’t it ironic finding mistakes in someone finding mistakes???

  42. Ursus_Indomitus says

    He’s a charlatan. And activist scientists? The words are mutually exclusive. Academaniacs must HANG.

    1. bob says

      if some of the people want to believe human induced activities are not the cause of global warming, let them believe! our guess is as valid as any science guys’ guess!

      if al gore can make millions off the scam, it shows something is wrong in looney town!

  43. Canadianlady says

    Bill Nye gets what he deserves: ignored!

  44. Oldchopper says

    Who cares! This agenda is as Solomon said in Ecclesiastes “It’s all meaningless, meaningless”. no truer statement made that fully describes these “so called” scientists that make up their own facts to fit their political ideology. Truly meaningless to us laymen.

  45. Dennis Derstine says

    Sorry about your luck Bill. The right doesn’t care, and now the left doesn’t want you. Hopefully you banked enough to live comfortably for the rest of your days.
    Bye bye Science Guy.

  46. Stephen Pettine says

    “In an open letter published in Scientific American this week, a group calling themselves “500 Women Scientists” said that Nye had cast his lot with the wrong crowd.”

    If it isn’t suspect enough for the gaggle of 500 female scientists to have made such a perverse statement, then the idea of science becoming thus politicized puts into question their ability to make unbiased statements on their supposedly honest ‘scientific’ conclusions based solely on following the scientific method and not tainted by personal prejudices. Five hundred boos and hisses for the women scientists’ coven. .

  47. Phil Esposito says

    These leftists remind me of the movie Highlander. You know the one where the immortals cut each others heads off. Because in the end, there can only be one. So let’s just watch them kill each other and then we’ll have our society back.

    1. mrpoohead says

      These rightists don’t seem to have a brain cell among them. Funny though.
      And, no left party in US – well, not a viable one.

      1. Phil Esposito says

        Funny how you leftists find the need to troll conservative sites to get your jollies off. What’s the matter? Not enough brain power on salon.com to keep you entertained?

        1. mrpoohead says

          Well I sit in the middle and laugh at both. No lefties in the U.S. though – have to visit the UK for them.
          In fairness they at least have facts and an argument whereas the right wing idiots have no substance just conspiracy.
          Funny as!

          1. Phil Esposito says

            Ha Ha. I laugh in your general direction (Monty Python). You’re in the middle like Obozo isn’t a muslim sympathizer. Yeah, I’m getting real tired of righties presenting facts for all their arguments as opposed to lefties lying thru their teeth and then printing an apology on the 18th page or at midnight on TV.

          2. mrpoohead says

            Think you’ll find by policy both the Democrats and Republicans are conservative – just varying degrees thereof. What’s the difference? LGBT, abortion and gun regulation – wow!

            I’ve been entertained by the Alt-right; I think their last fact based story was “Trump won election”, that’s more than a year ago. Funny as! If you can disprove this I’ll be amazed – good luck. Speculative drivel does not count.

            If, I believed them, then Europe has been taken over by Muslims and has lots of no-go zones. Illegals are coming in their millions over the border. Funny as! Korea is on the verge of going to war and all sorts of other drivel.

            Very entertaining!!!!!!!!

          3. Phil Esposito says

            Poophead, it must be nice living in your bubble. Where there are no threats to our republic. The whole democrat/communist party is a threat to our republic. So are hollywood Jews.

          4. mrpoohead says

            You’re funny. What threats? ISIS number probably no more than the KKK and are being put down by the rest of the Muslim world, with a bit of back up.
            Kim in Korea is only a threat to his own people – he’s not stupid enough to do anything else.
            Illegals; well numbers falling since 2007. Economy is lousy!
            Economy, well the Republicans (am sure the Democrats would have done it too) repealed the Glass-Steagall Act and the Financial Crisis 2008 was the fallout. You’ll be paying for that for two generations minimum and is in no sense the fault of n.gg.rs, illegals, Muslims, Jews or anybody else; just dumb white (mostly) folk.
            You sound like a Nazi – pig ignorant and can only use “blame” as an excuse. Funny as!

          5. hangem'high says

            U of all people should know? “The devil is in the details!”

            https://youtu.be/Ek9-nmnOCEs

          6. mrpoohead says

            No devil, no God. Duh!
            However, the details are important and we still await the conclusion and report from Mueller. I’m happy to wait!

          7. hangem'high says

            You’re not a very good liar with that Tattoo on your face!

            https://youtu.be/2S2qtGisT34

            The more things change the more they stay the same!

          8. mrpoohead says

            Yuk, no tattoos.

          9. hangem'high says

            My bad must be your moniker getting in my line of vision?

          10. mrpoohead says

            English please!

          11. hangem'high says

            I’m not sure that there’s any help for U?

          12. mrpoohead says

            What is “My bad”?

  48. smoke5713 says

    Lets send Nye to Mercury to investigate climate change. Sorry buddy, one way only.

  49. whocares6 says

    And another global warming scientist heard from.

  50. Marshall says

    Bill Nye the anti-science guy should go back to performing magic tricks for small children.At least there he has an audience that might find him halfway believable

  51. Paul Taalman says

    Well, their thinking isn’t very open-minded and inclusive now is it?

  52. Ken kothe says

    I wonder whether these 500 feminists fake “scientists” are blonds. Their attack on pure investigated science seems to suggest that they are not only blonds…but dumb blonds.

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