Smart Guns Could Spell the End for Freedom

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Included in President Obama’s slate of executive gun control orders was a demand that the Department of Justice, together with Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, “conduct or sponsor research into gun safety technology.” According to a fact sheet released Monday, the administration wants these three federal agencies to “review the availability of smart gun technology on a regular basis, and to explore potential ways to further its use and development to more broadly improve gun safety.”

There is, according to recent polls, considerable appetite in the American public for laws that would make smart guns the only legal form of firearms. This, despite the inconvenient fact that much of this technology is not quite ready for primetime.

Smart gun safety features range from biometric fingerprint locks to radio-controlled bracelets the user must wear. The technology itself enjoys support from gun owners, though many are wary about how reliable these safety measures will be in an emergency. As we all know, the more complexity you add to a device, the greater the chance of malfunction.

Writing in The New York Times last year, Nicholas Kristof asked, “Doesn’t it seem odd that your cellphone can be set up to require a PIN or a fingerprint, but there’s no such option for a gun?”

It’s a headscratcher, all right, until you realize that life and death will rarely depend on split-second cellphone access. And before you get hung up on the word he used – option – it’s important to consider the realities of the situation. Already, New Jersey law mandates that once smart guns are nationally available, distributors have three years to sell their remaining stock of traditional guns. After that, only smart guns will be legal.

The danger here is not that smart guns will be sold, or even that they will become wildly popular. The danger is that, not long after these guns hit the market, politicians will make it hard or impossible to buy anything else. Since some forms of this technology can be remotely accessed, criminals (or even the government) may be able to turn an owner’s gun into a very expensive paperweight. And exactly how long will it take dedicated hackers to compromise the security, rendering it useless as an anti-theft measure? A week?

The free market should decide the fate of smart guns. By calling on no fewer than three federal agencies to direct their resources to this technology, Obama puts us on the very path this nation’s gun owners feared. Today, the research; tomorrow, the laws.

Count on it.

1,222 Comments
  1. Bob Marcum says

    TAKE obuma OUT OF THE LOOP. ( That’s the solution, to all of it ).

    1. James Maxwell says

      Better still take the whole Utopian brain dead politicos out of the equation and you can stop the
      insanity of fools with gun being a threat. A well armed society is a polite society and the
      criminal are in fear of meeting someone who know who, what, when and where to used
      their weapon effectively to prevent criminals form committing another crime.

      1. Bob Marcum says

        Absolutely;;; But; I think my comment may have been a bit, over-simplified.

        One needs to remember; taking obuma from the loop would have to include

        a good replacement, in order to get his cronies out, with him and to repair

        the damage he’s done. Also; when some people say, it’s too late to fix the damage;

        that’s propaganda. They want us to give up, before we start.

        As you might guess; I’m a BIG, Trump fan. I firmly believe, he’s the only one,

        with the combination of traits, needed, to get in, and clean up the mess,

        obuma’s made.

        1. patriot2015 says

          100% correct, We need Trump to kick this country right in the ass
          . Throw out this Muslim loving president and all of the Muslim Brother Hood that surround him. Is it any wonder why they want all these Muslims to come in to our country, To slowly that it over these liberals better WAKE UP.
          Remember Charleston Heston President of NRA ( Out of my cold dead hands)

          1. Bob Marcum says

            I most certainly do remember Mr. Charleston Heston. Who can forget ?
            He’s right up there, with Ronald Reagan, for respectability ( maybe, even above Reagan ). His efforts are the primary source of survival, for the 2nd amendment. Everyone, with as much as 1/2 a brain, or more, will always remember and respect him.

        2. Merle Dickey says

          Watch them threaten his life so many times he drops out !! Just my prediction . And I hope I am wrong !!

          1. Bob Marcum says

            I DON’T.

          2. Emma says

            No … Trump is like the Colors of Old Glory.
            He does not run away nor is he a coward.?

        3. Emma says

          ?????
          Bingo!!!
          Trump all the way!!!

      2. Rick Rogers says

        James there is only one problem with that scenario and you said it yourself. “Someone who know who, what , when and Where to use their weapon” What about those that DON”T know and have a gun. They are are a danger to us all.

        1. James Maxwell says

          They come from the “I want it Now generation”, when I was a young man I grew
          up surrounded with WW II and Korea Veterans. They taught me gun safety,
          gun handling and respect for all weapons. In the Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts,
          Explorer Scouts we had firearm safety training for merit badges. My Father
          taught me to handle weapons and hunt from an early age. When I married
          and became a Father I taught my daughter firearm safety from day one and
          to not be afraid of a weapon. It is a tool that an be used for good or evil.
          Evil people will use what ever is available to them, a hoe, knife, hatchet,
          baseball bat or what ever to threaten and kill others. THEY do not care
          and do not follow the law nor respect the right of anyone at any time.
          Are you going to ban all those items also. You are using a wore out useless
          left wing Utopian Liberal argument that is nothing but hot air much like a fart.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            You were trained in firearms. .So was I and I am more worried about the Untrained person then I am some bad guy with a gun. I have a friend that is a complete klutz but he means well. He talked about getting a gun. The local range has a Hogan’s Alley type setup. They ran him thru the Bad guy with a gun in a crowd scenario. He took out 4 bystanders before he got one hit on the “bad Guy” Those are the people that scare me.

          2. cvxxx says

            The solution is required training. Today with a professional army there is not the wide range of experienced people. 85% of the population lives in cities. It is rare today to have cheap practice. Training,is the key.

          3. Rick Rogers says

            I agree and the funny thing is if you look at his proposals There is nothing in there that is suggesting anything that is not already on the books. So if they are on the books why is everyone screaming about it. There is a market for Smart guns. A smart gun is worthless if its stolen depending on the Tech. Its not going to let a kid find it and shoot someone. Its not going to be bought by the people that cannot get one legally. IF Glock or Beretta or Smith and Wesson came up with one today I would be in line to bay one.

          4. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Nobody is buying what you’re selling. Commie.

          5. Rick Rogers says

            Ok then Lets try.. Why is it ok for the NRA to ban firearms at their Yearly Convention but not ok for a business owner to do the same? Come on its not that hard a question I am sure someone of with all these Brain power can answer it I mean if you add all the peoples IQ together I am sure you come up 100 but not over 125.

          6. 11Mic22hael33 says

            “I am sure someone of with all these Brain power”??? Your IQ must be about 60. Typical mentally defective liberal.

          7. Rick Rogers says

            wow for someone that is all GUN ho, you sure are a little unarmed in the Wit department. Its unfair to take advantage of you. Like Shooting Fish in a barrel, Taking on someone who’s Powered is all wet. Someone that does not have a fully loaded Magazine. Someone that thinks they should clean there gun without unloading it.

          8. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Your medication is wearing off, troll. You are starting to babble.

          9. Rick Rogers says

            Yep You are completely unarmed in the wit department

          10. Rick Rogers says

            this puts it in the correct perspective

          11. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Liberalism is a mental disorder that WILL BE DEALT WITH WHEN WE TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. Something has to be and will be done about you twisted people.

          12. Rick Rogers says

            Yep thanks you proved it you just proved your a Nazi. Here let me make you feel at home.. “Sieg Heil”

          13. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Goodbye, Mr. Rogers. I look forward to the day when you people will be dealt with once and for all. It won’t be pretty. I have a REAL job to go to in the morning, so, SEE ‘YA! You liberal loon. TROLL! Now go suck off your troll boss, you faggot.

          14. Francisco Machado says

            For once, I defend the Progressives. Yes, they are mentally defective. Yes, they are dangerous, but mostly to constitutional freedoms and the economy. There is no evidence that this can be extended to project that they are universally likely to misuse firearms, so a background check that determines a person is a Progressive shouldn’t automatically ban them from owning guns. Not that any of them would want to…

          15. pineapple says

            “Your IQ must be about 60. Typical mentally defective liberal.”

            Who not only can’t think, but also can’t spell.

          16. Francisco Machado says

            While I’m completely unaware that the IRA has banned firearms at their annual convention and will remain neutral on the issue of whether they do, the fact remains that they are a private organization. They are not government. People are free to decide not to attend their convention – you included – because they do not approve of this impugned action. I’m not aware of action by the NRA to make it illegal for businesses to ban firearms, although I know there are members favoring a boycott – which is legal. I think stores should be free to put up GFZ signs and lose the business of persons carrying guns. Or to ban people from coming in barefoot. Or, in the case of a service, to decline to contract with anyone for any reason to provide that service. Sure, they lose business, but it’s their right to do so. This may not extend to corporations, whose responsibility is to their shareholders who would have the right to sue them for deliberate acts that reduce profits.

          17. Rick Rogers says

            Its not hard to find there were signs posted all over the entrances of the venues say no firearms permitted. Allow those same lines they companies that Don’t provide GFZ can be held responsible to the people that are harmed by those same guns. Sorry Francisco I understand your argument but the fact of the matter is If someone plans to use a gun to commit a crime they have the initiative. You having a Assault Rifle strapped to your chest is not going to help you one bit if I walk up behind you pull a handgun and put it to the back of your head. What is going to do is make sure the Bad guy has his gun on you FIRST and unless you have SUPERMAN like Reflexes at close Range the one that pulls the gun first WINS. What happens is you get people that will pull a gun at a drop of a hat like the woman up north that started taking pot shots at a Shoplifter in a crowded Parking lot not caring where those rounds she was expending were actually going if she missed. And I hate to say it but now that the Texas has gone OPEN Carry wild. Lest see how the number of shootings because of Disputes go UP now that everyone carries.. Hell just watching the number of Road rage Shooting be themselves is going to be Very Telling. But the point I started to make is I don’t really have a problem with people wanting to carry as long as they are trained in the use of when and where and HOW to use a firearm. You can’t fly a plane in this country without a license or drive a Car legally but both of those can kill just as easy as an untrained person with a gun.

          18. Rick Rogers says

            hmm Mikey Not selling anything. Just so you know communist think everything belongs to the State so there really isn’t any buying and selling so you should not make the two statements together.

          19. cvxxx says

            I would never buy one. IMO the danger is it won’t work when needed. Anything that depends on technology can be hacked. Then I also would want my SO and perhaps others to have access.
            To your point of view it seem that is is an answer tio what? A person who steals would have a hacker that invalidates the controls. The difference is being able to have a tool that works. When one needs it to work. Adding additional blockages invalidate it’s true function.
            The idea was though of under ideal circumnstanced not thinking of the hand being dirty or coming out of the shower when jewerly has been removed. It would not be a wise investment.

          20. Rick Rogers says

            Depends on the Tech that is used. Palm print don’t think it could be hacked all that easily .. Radio bracelet that enables trigger could be because would not be hard to setup a frequency Scanner. But to be honest how many of the people that are “up to no good” with a gun would have the tech knowledge or skill and equipment to hack one.

          21. cvxxx says

            Thousands. Mainly just because they can do it. Same way they learned to takeover control of computer controlled cars. Years ago criminals bouth electronic keys to steal cars with electronic locks and activation. Now they can take over the entire control of the car. There have been suspicious “accidents” already.
            Hacking is quite easy. All operating systems have “back doors” to allow for repair and upgrading. Windows 10 takes in information and cannot be blocked. This represents a revenue stream. Professional or government employed hackers have been around for over 30 years.

          22. Rick Rogers says

            sorry if the come out with one the company that puts on the market first has my money. Because what it boils down to is if someone breaks into my house and get their hands on my gun. If I walk in on them they are not going to be able to shoot me with my own weapon. Look up the number of police officers that were shot with their own gun. Number might suprise you.

          23. cvxxx says

            Sorry.not going to happen. The concerns are illogical. My experience is time is the one luxury a person does not have in an emergency. Anything that takes time is an impediment to survival. A criminal breking in is more likly to have an weapon or an advantage is size or velocity of the attack. There is a shock factor where people are frozen while the brain processes. That is why martial arts are designed to be “no thought”, pure reflex. Most persons thing is a discussion are usually unaware or this response time lag.
            Consider, that a need does not wait for ideal conditions.

          24. Rick Rogers says

            Again if it depends on the Tech. When a Palm printed gun was brought to market a year or so ago the gun store owners that wanted to care it were set upon by hate mail and threats of boycotts. Don’t understand that at all. But to get back to the Title of the Article.. How is something that is an option that people can Purchase Going to “Going to Spell the end for Freedom”. That is what makes the least amount of sense.

          25. cvxxx says

            Think again. The anti gun group would legislate that they would be the only guns available or legal. That is the danger. Most want freedom to choose the tool that suits their purpose. So called smart guns are pablum to the fearful without the acknowledgement of their failings.

            The answer is to open up the buying and selling of guns with out government Fed,State,local)interference whatsoever. Then the individual can purchase what they want.

          26. Rick Rogers says

            That sounds like the perfect description of Anarchy. Every little dispute turns into an armed confict. Every road rage incident turns into a shoot out.. Nope sorry never going to happen because there are to many reasonable people in this country to allow it to happen. What’s much more likely when the 2 squatters on the Supreme Court Thomas and Scalia die off then the court takes a more middle of the road turn that someone will bring a case that challenges the ruling that the 2nd amendment bans all gun regulation. And they will overturn the current rulings.

          27. cvxxx says

            The fact is it worked for over 100 years. And would still be the best. If anarchy was going to happen it already would have. The US has a long history of armed citizens. Turns out most places were peaceful. Boring even as most were too busy working. If the sheriff needed a posse to hunt down criminals then the person brought his own gun. The TV and Movies has warped the thinking by portraying a very unrealistic vision of the Old West.

            http://www.neatorama.com/2012/06/07/the-truth-about-gunfights-in-the-old-west/

          28. Rick Rogers says

            I don’t think my cherokee ancestors would agree that it worked out so well for them.

          29. pineapple says

            If someone breaks into your house, they will probably have their own gun, which will probably not be a smart gun. If they use their own gun, at least they won’t be shooting you with your gun. This should make you happy.

          30. Rick Rogers says

            Pineapple. If you look at what was proposed the other day it was aimed at those that don’t have a gun Legally. The chances are that person that is suppose to break into my house bought his gun legally is not very high. You have been thought for with your post so I am going to ask you because some of the ones responding would not know a intelligent Thought if their life depended on it.

            What is wrong with Expanded background check to keep people from getting a gun that should not have one?

            What is wrong with States Sharing Criminal History Records to identify people that should not be allow to purchase a gun?

            What is wrong with improved enforcement of existing gun laws that are already on the books?

            What is wrong with Better ways of Tracking Illegal Firearm trafficking Because if you are worried about the bad guy with a gun then why not make it harder for the bad guy to get one. goes back to the odds the bad guy bought it legally.

            Better Tracking of Guns lost or stolen.. Again. Whats wrong with track the illegal weapons?

            Research on Improved Gun Safety Tech. Still have not heard a valid argument against this. Unless your for kids who use they parents guns to accdiently shoot their siblings, parents, Aunts, Uncles, Grand Parents, Playmates, Cousins or THEMSELVES. I list each one for a reason in the last year there has been a Media report on each one of those type of people that were shot by a kids playing with a gun.

            Improved mental Health Screening and reporting to background check system. IF a person is diagnosed with a mental health issue were they could be considered a danger to others they should be reported to the system and they should not be allow anywhere near a gun shop purchase.

            Not one of those items does anything to infringe on your 2nd amendment Rights. Not one of them takes a weapon away from a legal owner. This “Its the first Step” argument is crap. IT’s what the NRA and the gun Manufacturers are telling you to make sure their gun sales stay high.

          31. Francisco Machado says

            The “market for smart guns” should be the determining factor. If there is a large market for them they will be produced. If there’s a large market for conventional firearms, they will be produced. Since privately owned firearms are universally mechanical devices, the “smart” mechanism is essentially a “keyed” safety that blocks either the trigger or the firing pin. Given that, it may be useful to the owner – for instance, if it supplants the need for locked storage in a home with children – but, if the gun were stolen, the electronic “safety” could probably be removed entirely by anyone with basic mechanical skills. On the other hand, the electronic “safety” could be a problem for an owner who fails to pay attention to the batteries – how many people say “My cell phone is dead” to use your electronic example? It would be so embarrassing to be in a position of confronting a break-in with a gun and the little “insufficient battery charge” ikon pops up on your pistol when you touch the trigger – or you’re out in the rain and have to dry it out before you can use it. There’s some utility insofar as the criminal can’t fire it if he’s grabbed it from you, but you can’t reach for it to get it back – for obvious reasons. And, during the stress of the incident, you have to remember “Don’t grab for that gun!” As far as the “fingerprint recognition” goes, you have to take your glove off to fire? I’ve also read complaints about people trying to use the technology with cell phones complaining about how many times they have to try to get the phone to recognize them. There’s a chance you won’t have that option in a confrontation. Of course, the technology might be excellent for the President’s body guard – but their opinions on the subject should be asked when not in Obama’s presence and they should be permitted anonymity.

          32. Rick Rogers says

            a Couple of weeks ago they had a gun shop owner on 60 Minutes that decided he wanted to carry the guns. He got hate mail, Death Threats, Calls for Boycotting his store. Those did not come from Anti Gun Supporters.. They was all people that thought that he offering a smart gun was a violation of their rights. Like they wanted the Right for their young child to be able to pick up a gun and kill someone by mistake or maybe even blow his own brains out. Because of the uproar the gun shop owner canceled the order and said it was not work the abuse he was taking to offer them. oh and some of those calls for Boycott came from NRA officials.

          33. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Don’t be so scared, take your meds. Everything is gonna be all right.

          34. Rick Rogers says

            Never scare of the likes of you there Mikey. I bet you would have like Jonestown, Guyana, You would have bought everything Jim Jones told you hook line and sinker. but go head don’t let us stop you from drinking the kool-aide.. PLEASE DRINK THE KOOL-AIDE

          35. 11Mic22hael33 says

            You are every bit as mentally sick as jim jones, you fruit cake. Oh, and by the way, you do look as faggy as your comments.

          36. Rick Rogers says

            I am sorry I did not realize i was dealing with a minor.. If I had I would have taken easy on you.. tell you what sonny. Go wash up before dinner your mommy is calling.

          37. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Wow. You call ME a minor. LOL!!!! You libs are so fun to torture like this! The hypocritical and stupid things you say, especially when you are being beaten in an argument.LOL!!! You sound like you have the mentality of a 7 year old. No wonder you can’t work at a normal job and have to resort to being a pathetic TROLL. LOL!

          38. Rick Rogers says

            Nothing you can do is going to torture me cupcake. in fact your helping me with building my Conservatives Conserve NOTHING CCN facebook group because people are signing up to comment what a moron you are after I repost all your comments. All your doing is showing how unamerican you truly are to the rest of the country. so tell me how is that Hitler mustache come in? if you want to ge the hair Right take a look at Trump he has been working on that Hitler Comb over for years. one thing I want to ask.. Does it really piss you off that GOP is about 7 million member light versus the Democratic Party. Since its pretty clear your a neo Nazi it must not bother you that Neo Nazis and KKK clansmen are flocking to support the people trying to earn the top of the GOP Ticket.

        2. Deby says

          imbeciles like you are the danger Ricky-there is NO WAY to weed out the “mentally ill” who choose guns to make their point -and that is the problem-along with the obvious criminal element who will always “blast away” cause that is what they do. There are enough federally mandated gun laws right now that perhaps need to be enforced, but short of making a gun registry and/or having everyone turn their legally owned guns into the government, trying to create more laws that won’t be enforced is ridiculous. America has an ideology problem with guns, and the violence like Sandy Hook, or the other “mass” shootings have ALL had to do with a mentally ill person pulling the trigger. Gun Free zones are a huge problem-people who own guns as self defense, or a hobby are NOT.

          1. Rick Rogers says

            So glad you said that because there was nothing new in the President Proposals that were not already in existing laws and he was talking about strengthening the ability to enforce it. And please do give me the cramp about how the NRA is looking out for your interest. They are looking out for the gun industry and no one else.

          2. Deby says

            I don’t believe I mentioned the NRA-you did, but since you did–your comment is not based on fact, but emotion. The NRA is legal gun owners best defense of government overreach-which is exactly what obozo is getting ready to do. You are a paid troll about this subject, trying to preach gun control to people who do not need (or want) preaching to. Try the liberal sites, you will find a lot more mental cases there who will agree with you.

          3. Rick Rogers says

            The NRA is no one but the gun industries best Defense. and they prove it at there yearly meeting. Why is a group that is so bent on blocking any sort of sensible Gun legislation Banning the carrying of Firearms into they yearly convention? What about the “people’s Legal Right to carry ” sorry The best thing that could happen was be for every person that objects to the NRA to pay their membership and then Vote OUT the current board of directors.. Which is actually something a few groups are looking into. Getting rid of the NRA from the INSIDE.

          4. Deby says

            well gee, you are all over the place-now you are ranting against the NRA-our best defense of the Second Amendment against the socialist/facist government administration run by your buddy obama. while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, ridiculous and obtuse as it is, I am done conversing with you-we disagree and you make no sense. buh-bye now.

          5. Rick Rogers says

            But Deby I was really interested in why you thought it was ok for the NRA to ban firearms from their yearly Convention but not ok if a business owner wants to do the same thing. Please I am waiting with Baited Breath on your answer.

          6. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Do you trolls get to take lunch breaks?

          7. Rick Rogers says

            Hmmm Don’t know .. what did your boss tell you when he hired you?

          8. 11Mic22hael33 says

            I have a REAL job, I don’t do troll-work. That is for liberal sissies like you.

          9. Rick Rogers says

            well Make sure you keep your shovel in good shape for the ditch you have to finish tomorrow. Oh you better hurry home to the trailer There is a monster truck rally on tonight you don’t want to miss.

          10. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Get lost with your anti-gun, communist propaganda, obama-troll.

          11. Rick Rogers says

            Try again there cupcake. Said plainly before I am not anti Gun they are a tool just like any other. My objection is that we let anyone that can drop 300 dollars on a pawn shop counter walk out with something that can kill people from a distance. THE WRONG people with guns, UNtrained people with guns are what I object to.

          12. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Well that’s too bad, your highness. You can’t change America to satisfy your whims. The 2nd Amendment will NOT be infringed just to please you narcissist megalomaniac, mental-case liberals.

          13. Rick Rogers says

            See there you go again and your completely wrong. Must take real talent to be wrong so offen. If you go to Vegas you could make a living out of it just picking winners and getting a commission from everyone that votes against you because its a sure thing. If the Majority of us Stand up and VOTE for people that will follow our wishes then YES we can Change America. Its called a Democracy for a reason. Majority Rules. Or have you not seen every over night poll that says 72% of americans Polled don’t have a problem with the presidents proposals. Congratulations you are now part of a minority. You feel oppressed yet?

          14. Merle Dickey says

            Who trained you ? ISIS?

          15. Rick Rogers says

            US Air Force. I was a small arms instructor for 4 years.

          16. pineapple says

            If you confronted a mass killer, you would probably be shot while trying to instruct the killer how to use his gun properly.

          17. pineapple says

            …”Vote OUT the current board of directors..”

            Maybe we should try that for the liberals in Congress and in the executive branch..

          18. Rick Rogers says

            You are trying that already that’s what “vote id laws” are about. To make it harder for the people that Conservatives know won’t vote for them.

          19. pineapple says

            Ever wonder why Republicans want voter ID.?

            * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

            * In 21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of the votes where GOP inspectors were illegally removed from their polling locations – and not one single vote was recorded for Romney. (Another statistical impossibility).

            * In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible voters.

            * In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

            * The National SEAL Museum, a polling location in St. Lucie County, FL had a 158% voter turnout.

            * Palm Beach County, FL had a 141% voter turnout.

            * In one Ohio County, Obama won by 108% of the total number of eligible voters.

            NOTE: Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote. Imagine that…..

            ARE WE THE DUMBEST NATION ON THE PLANET OR WHAT.?

          20. Rick Rogers says

            And yet there has been something like 00000001 % of in person voter fraud proven in the last 12 elections. And lets not forget that in that state you quoted the most RICK SCOTT order voter Rolls Purged before the November elections. and a lot of people showed up to vote and were told they were no longer on the rolls. Sorry Obama won both elections because the majority of americans preferred his vision to the one that was offered up by the GOP nominee. Here the really funny part. If Colin Powell had been the GOP nominee I would have voted for him in a heartbeat because he had the experience and first hand knowledge at what happens when your foreign policy fails and you have to send in US military Personal to correct the problem.

            Oh and you do realize that the Company that runs the voting machines in Ohio is owned by Mitt Romney’s son Right?

          21. Reality Check says

            * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

            well except that the same thing happened in previous elections.

            WHY you think a poor black person would vote for the party that wants them back in chains is evidence of your low IQ.
            YOU are one of the Dumbest Humans in this country, that is certain.

            care to debate?
            of course links are mandatory.

          22. Reality Check says

            here you go fool.

            Barack Obama won the overall vote in the Philadelphia area by an 85% to 14% margin over Mitt Romney; Obama also received greater than 90% of the vote in more than half of Philadelphia’s 66 wards, and 99% or more of the vote in seven of those wards. That result was hardly surprising given that, as the Philadelphia Inquirer noted, those wards are “clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia” and “nationally, 93 percent of African Americans voted for Obama.” The Philadelphia wards that trended very heavily for Barack Obama included many divisions of between 200 and 500 voters in which Mitt Romney received a scant handful of votes (and sometimes no votes at all), a result mirroring that of the previous election, in which Republican candidate John McCain “got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions.”

            When the Inquirer went looking for Republican voters in some of those divisions, they couldn’t find any:

            Many parts of Philadelphia and other big cities simply lack Republican voters, a fact of campaigning that has been true since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal, Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University, said.

            Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicanslive in the [28th] ward’s third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.

            Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn’t answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street knew him.

            James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican in city data. But he said he’s a Democrat and voted for Obama because he thinks the president will help the middle class.

            A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. “I got to check on that,” said Sapp, who voted for Obama.

            Eighteen Republicans reportedly live in the nearby 15th Division, according to city registration records. The 15th has the distinction of pitching two straight Republican shutouts — zero votes for McCain in 2008, zero for Romney. Oh, and 13 other city divisions did the same thing in 2008 and 2012.

            Three of the 15th’s registered Republicans were listed as living in the same apartment, but the tenant there said he had never heard of them. The addresses of several others could not be found.

            On West Albert Street, Duke Dunston says he knows he’s a registered Republican, but he’s never voted for one.

            Thus the results in Philadelphia were reflective not of an “impossible” statistical anomaly but rather of a general historical trend widely seen throughout the city.

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

            notice how I link to my sources?

            something YOU NEVER DO.
            Why is that tool of the right wing Propaganda?

            you have something to hide?

          23. Reality Check says

            Oh I have ANOTHER BIG LIE from this LYING POS.

            ” Palm Beach County, FL had a 141% voter turnout.”

            The official results for the 2012 general election for Palm Beach County, Florida, show that 605,268 out of 870,182 registered voters cast ballots for the office of President of the United States, a voter turnout rate of 69.56%, not 141%.

            oh and HERE is the Florida State link TO PROVE YOU LIE.

            http://www.pbcelections.org/GetDocument.aspx?id=913

            you are certainly proving to be part of the Dumbest group of humans in America.

          24. Reality Check says

            See tool of the Right WIng.

            THEY LIE and when yo post it YOU LIE as well.

            “NOTE: Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote. Imagine that”

            well fool, Obama won FOUR of the states with voter ID

            so THIS

            http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx

            tells you which states have voter ID laws and THIS

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/

            will prove you are a LYING POS about not winning any of those states.

            STOP posting SHIT and LIES tool of the right wing Propaganda.

            MAYBE you could PROVE something?

          25. pineapple says

            Crosschecked rolls in Virginia and Maryland find 44,000 voters registered in both states
            April 24, 2014 by Watchdog 63 Comments

            Photo: http://www.townhall.com
            RICHMOND, Va. – A crosscheck of voter rolls in Virginia and Maryland turned up 44,000 people registered in both states, a vote-integrity group reported Wednesday.
            And that’s just the beginning.
            “The Virginia Voters Alliance is investigating how to identify voters who are registered and vote in Virginia but live in the states that surround us,” Alliance President Reagan George told the State Board of Elections.

            George acknowledged that the number of voters who actually cast multiple ballots is relatively small. In the case of Maryland and Virginia, he revealed that 164 people voted in both states during the 2012 election.
            But George said his group will expand their search for duplicate voters in the District of Columbia, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, North Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia and Georgia.
            “We are also determining the best way to identify non-citizens who have registered to vote and may have voted in past elections,” George said.
            Working with the Privileges and Elections committees of the state House and Senate, VVA identified 31,000 dead voters via the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File. Subsequent processing by SBE found 40,000 to 60,000 dead voter registrations.
            “Dead voter registrations are prime targets for voter fraud which generate few complaints,” George noted.
            Appearing with Clara Belle Wheeler of the Albemarle County,Va., Election Board and Jay DeLancy of the North Carolina Voter Integrity Project, George challenged the SBE to:
            · Tighten Virginia’s voter ID law that allows absentee voters to use mailed ballots without affirming their identity.
            · Check the 50,000-plus patient beds in Virginia nursing homes and rehab centers amid reports of voting irregularities there.
            · Require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Kansas and Arizona require this.
            · Annually audit felons who are not allowed to vote.
            · “Certain nonviolent felons, especially those who commit voter fraud, should never be given back their right to vote,” George said.
            More broadly, George said, “Virginia must control the registration process, as well as the form used to register voters. The current system is the perfect vehicle for identity theft and ‘lost’ registrations.”
            “There needs to be a clearinghouse for all voter fraud referrals statewide,” he said. “The SBE would be the perfect place to assume that role and provide transparency for the public.”
            DeLancy and Wheeler urged the board to open its voter-crosscheck data to the public and to publicize cases of voter fraud.
            DeLancy said groups that downplay or dismiss the incidence of ongoing voting irregularities use “pretzel logic.”
            “If prosecutors don’t prosecute, there’s no ‘crime,’” he noted.
            The three-member state board — controlled by Republicans until the end of the year — took VVA’s recommendations under advisement.
            If you haven’t already, be sure to check out “Deputy loses it on retired Marine who was taping her entire meltdown.”
            Published with permission from Watchdog.org

          26. pineapple says

            Crosschecked rolls in Virginia and Maryland find 44,000 voters registered in both states
            April 24, 2014 by Watchdog 63 Comments

            Photo: http://www.townhall.com
            RICHMOND, Va. – A crosscheck of voter rolls in Virginia and Maryland turned up 44,000 people registered in both states, a vote-integrity group reported Wednesday.
            And that’s just the beginning.
            “The Virginia Voters Alliance is investigating how to identify voters who are registered and vote in Virginia but live in the states that surround us,” Alliance President Reagan George told the State Board of Elections.

            George acknowledged that the number of voters who actually cast multiple ballots is relatively small. In the case of Maryland and Virginia, he revealed that 164 people voted in both states during the 2012 election.
            But George said his group will expand their search for duplicate voters in the District of Columbia, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, North Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia and Georgia.
            “We are also determining the best way to identify non-citizens who have registered to vote and may have voted in past elections,” George said.
            Working with the Privileges and Elections committees of the state House and Senate, VVA identified 31,000 dead voters via the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File. Subsequent processing by SBE found 40,000 to 60,000 dead voter registrations.
            “Dead voter registrations are prime targets for voter fraud which generate few complaints,” George noted.
            Appearing with Clara Belle Wheeler of the Albemarle County,Va., Election Board and Jay DeLancy of the North Carolina Voter Integrity Project, George challenged the SBE to:
            · Tighten Virginia’s voter ID law that allows absentee voters to use mailed ballots without affirming their identity.
            · Check the 50,000-plus patient beds in Virginia nursing homes and rehab centers amid reports of voting irregularities there.
            · Require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Kansas and Arizona require this.
            · Annually audit felons who are not allowed to vote.
            · “Certain nonviolent felons, especially those who commit voter fraud, should never be given back their right to vote,” George said.
            More broadly, George said, “Virginia must control the registration process, as well as the form used to register voters. The current system is the perfect vehicle for identity theft and ‘lost’ registrations.”
            “There needs to be a clearinghouse for all voter fraud referrals statewide,” he said. “The SBE would be the perfect place to assume that role and provide transparency for the public.”
            DeLancy and Wheeler urged the board to open its voter-crosscheck data to the public and to publicize cases of voter fraud.
            DeLancy said groups that downplay or dismiss the incidence of ongoing voting irregularities use “pretzel logic.”
            “If prosecutors don’t prosecute, there’s no ‘crime,’” he noted.
            The three-member state board — controlled by Republicans until the end of the year — took VVA’s recommendations under advisement.
            If you haven’t already, be sure to check out “Deputy loses it on retired Marine who was taping her entire meltdown.”
            Published with permission from Watchdog.org

          27. 11Mic22hael33 says

            OBAMA-TROLL ALERT!!! OBAMA-TROLL ALERT!!!

          28. Rick Rogers says

            Sure there is Deby.. Just take your guns first and that Weeds out one of them.

        3. Merle Dickey says

          Then hide

          1. Rick Rogers says

            Be a cold day in hell that i would have from a bigoted Racist like you.

          2. Merle Dickey says

            LOL don’t you mean hide ? And I am racist against people like you .Worthless trash . And it is getting mighty cold out there .

      3. pineapple says

        Instead of banning guns, ban gun free zones so the perps will know they will be shot at.

        1. Rick Rogers says

          and Those people that are doing the shooting. How many of them know to look BEYOND their Target to know what they will hit if they MISS? First rule I was taught. Never aim at something you don’t intend to shoot. Before you pull the trigger know what that round is going to hit if your Target moves or you miss. To many people with guns would not have a problem blasting away at someone they thought of as a threat with no concern with the people around that Threat.

          1. worn out 123 says

            “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” . . . . Benjamin Franklin. You fit this description, Rick Rogers.

          2. Rick Rogers says

            Lets be clear on something. The majority of americans would trade the life of every single one of those AMMOSEXUAL’s at the Wildlife perserve in Oregon for the life of those children at Sandy Hook elementary. Those kids Right to life TRUMPS those moron’s Right to parade around like want to be Soldiers. Your guns are not going to protect you if someone truly wants them. So tell you what. How about you give me the list of just one Weapon and the person it was seized from (other then the ones that were involved in criminal Acts) your not going to do it because none have been taken and no one has said anything about TAKING THEM. Here are the executive orders he purposed yesterday. How about explaining why any of them are “out of bounds” or where is the line about “I am coming for you guns” Do I need to remind you of the
            Firearms Owners’ Protection Act which was signed by REAGAN. That Same Reagan that wrote in Support of the Brady Bill in the New York Times and the federal ban on New assault weapon sales.

          3. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Let’s be clear on something, nobody is buying your communist propaganda here dummy! How much do they pay you trolls anyway? Are you paid by the post? Or by the hour? Who signs your troll-checks? George Soros?

          4. Rick Rogers says

            Ok lets be clear. I don’t get paid to do this. I do it because I enjoy raising your blood pressure in the hopes it will push you over the edge and there will be one list ammosexual in the world.

          5. 11Mic22hael33 says

            NOW the real you comes out! I KNEW IT! You are a real low-life. That’s just typical. It’s really true that LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER! LOL!!! Who’s raising WHO’S blood pressure??? WOW! Get some professional help weirdo!

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Not mine that for sure. I could spend all day pointing out your shortcomings but I am sure you previous girlfriends have point out your “SHORT”comings more then once. Maybe that’s why your so into guns. Its the only way you can get a hard on. Bet you use gun oil as a Lubricant before the sex you have to pay for.

          7. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Wow! Typical liberal behavior. Get back on your meds, queer.

          8. Rick Rogers says

            So you start personal attacks and then get your panties in a knot when I replay back in kind.. Typical Conservatives Behavior

          9. 11Mic22hael33 says

            We will reopen all of the mental institutions that were closed down by you twisted libs, and they will be filled with you people, REAL SOON! You will not be turned loose to destroy America again.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            You really aren’t all that bright about history are you.. REAGAN was the one that shut down the Mental Institutions by cutting funding. Just like Bush was the one that signed the binding agreement to pull out of Iraq and the Iraq government would not renegotiate that agreement.

          11. Merle Dickey says

            Your started it . Not too bright are you ?What low life breed are you ?

          12. Rick Rogers says

            Merle you ever watch Hee Haw when it was on. People laugh at the characters that were pretending to be stupid. Was pretty popular in its day. In your case your comments are funny because you truly are that stupid and don’t have the slightest understanding on what it means to be an American or the concept for on which the country was based.. So please feel free to respond it just gives me more material that I can repost on my facebook group. You are helping to me to grow that group.

          13. Merle Dickey says

            No Hee Haw was before me .And all you can do is build up your little post with your Mohammad lovers so Who really cares .Nothing but evil sick perverts . You definitely are not a true american .

          14. Rick Rogers says

            More so then you and I have the Honorable Discharge to prove it. God you such a small minded person. You like an escapee out of a bad 1950 movie.

          15. glenn398 says

            Rick you started the personal attack on him.

          16. Merle Dickey says

            And what middle eastern country is your worthless butt from ? If you believe what you wrote, your not too bright . Just another indoctrinated Obama kiss butt , Don’t worry our blood pressure is just fine . . And it is spelled less. What a worthless waste of air .

          17. Rick Rogers says

            Southern North Carolina. And some of my ancestors where Cherokee so that means the place when be a different name before most of the europeans got here.

          18. Reality Check says

            Sane people who think you cons are complete morons live right here in the USA.

            WE are the patriots that know you old farts are brainwashed.

          19. Merle Dickey says

            You may be a .patriot nut it sure isn’t for the good old USA . Just another pervert like Rick .

          20. Reality Check says

            only YOU make up facts and are afraid of 3 year old children.

            only YOU are doing the Oligarchy’s business and LYING for them so they can take over the country.

          21. Merle Dickey says

            LOL . Just another crazy one posting

          22. Reality Check says

            HOW LOW is your IQ to think we are trying to go communist?

            I mean who whats FORCED labor camps. shortages of everything and that drab clothing.
            especially since you morons think all of us are getting everything for FREE.
            are you retarded?

            cause thinking we are desperate to be communist is just the thinking of a mentally challenged human.

          23. Merle Dickey says

            That sick freak should have been in an institution long before his mother decided to do it . There are many insane druggies in the world and also people who can’t take care of them selves but depend on the government to do so .(ring a bell ) So why didn’t they take care of him? Obama didn’t cry when it happened did he ? I hope you live in one of the rats nest big cities !!

          24. Rick Rogers says

            so Merle.. You collect on social Security? yet. with your thought processes you have to be what. 75, 80 by now?

          25. glenn398 says

            You talk like the only people that can handle a gun with any accuracy is someone in the government. Got news for you, there are millions of servicemen, hunters and those that practice shooting for sport. As far a accuracy there have been many shooting by police that looked like a 5 years old was trying to hit the target. I remember one on the news about a year ago where a car was coming towards the police and they counted 200 rounds in the car and the driver wasn’t even hit. Yes they are taking guns away from people and the biggest grab is not allowing some people to purchase guns. They use doctors, any kind of domestic disturbance and even called those getting out of the military unfit to get a gun. You may not notice but they are slowly picking away with a reason here or there why this person shouldn’t have a gun, time to look around and wake up.

          26. Rick Rogers says

            glenn398.. never said that. Never even came close to saying that. I am one of those former servicemen and I go to the range every chance I get because marksmanship is skill you can lose if you don’t practice. Its a physical and Mental Challenge that allows you to compete against yourself. It takes discipline and control which a lot of these people on here don’t seem to be able to Demonstrate. But to get to the meat of the issue. If smart guns are on the market no one is losing any Freedom by having people decide they want to purchase them. I keep hearing from conservatives all the time ” let the free market decide”. I guess they meant only let the free market decide on things THEY approve of.

          27. glenn398 says

            A smart gun would resolve nothing as any technology can be overcome. What it probably will do is increase the sale of guns as where one gun in the house could be used by husband and wife now we will need one of the husband and one for the wife. All these problems still come down to a people problem not the weapon.

          28. Rick Rogers says

            Glenn398 all well and good but like at the Title of the Article “Smart guns could Spell the end for Freedom” my questions was what Freedom is is suppose to end?? If it Increases the sale of guns how is that “ending a Freedom” To be honest I would rather have a smart gun only a Husband and Wife could fire then a gun that their 6,7 or 8 year old child could pick up and play with. And yes any owner with kids that does not secure their firearm is a menace but mistakes happen even to those that bleed gun powered when you prick them. Best example I can think of was there was US Rep. Ellmers from North Carolina
            that left her AR-15 leaning against the gun safe in the garage and the garage door was open and someone made off with it. That was not an example of a responsible gun owner.

          29. glenn398 says

            My main point is it is a people problem not a gun problem. We didn’t have these problems in the old days so all I can say is the public today has more than their fair share of idiots. Of course with so many people on the government dole today it is obvious people are dependent on others rather then be responsible for themselves. It wasn’t that way in the old days so you see what you have today.

          30. Rick Rogers says

            I understand the point your trying to make and Its more then a People Problem. Alot of people take to the use of a gun because they see it as their last resort. And people on both sides do that. Or why else are those nutjobs in Oregon that took over the wildlife Refugee armed to the teeth. Its a Social issue. There are not as many “people on the Government Dole” as there use to be and the majority of them would rather work then take welfare. Off someone the chance to earn a living doing a job vs just getting a check am most are going to take the job. People don’t want a hand up just a hand offered to help themselves up. The old tired statement that they don’t work hard enough is proven wrong by the fact that Teachers and Highway Construction workers don’t make the highest Salaries and people like the Kochs and Trump who inherited their money are the Richest. When the 2014 Congress was swore in the Speaker at the time said that Jobs were going to be there number one concern. Number of times they have passed a jobs bill to this date. is ZERO. People are not born knowing how to kill others. Its something they are taught by what they learn in there personal life.

          31. glenn398 says

            Guess you don’t believe the part about natural born killers then but it has been proven. As far as the amount of people on the government dole versus what used to be then how come we have now come to the point where there are more on the dole then working? I worked at G.M. when Johnson passed the hard core unemployed. All it meant was G.M. was forced to hire more blacks then they had to get the correct percentage. I was involved in training these people, here was the results. No matter what you showed them the job was they only did half of it. The night crew got paid Thursday night and hardly any of them showed up Friday night. The day crew got paid Friday and hardly any of them show up Monday. We went from number one in production and quality to number 4 and 5 so don’t try and tell me they just want a hand up when they were getting the highest paid job in the state.

          32. Reality Check says

            “Guess you don’t believe the part about natural born killers then but it has been proven”

            NO IT HASN’T.
            love to see that link, glen.

          33. glenn398 says

            Well am not going to start digging back for you past reports but am sure you have observed kids in some families that no matter what they do are just nasty type of people.

          34. Reality Check says

            “As far a accuracy there have been many shooting by police that looked like a 5 years old was trying to hit the target”

            which is WHY an average target shooter is NOT going to perform even slightly like a cop who gets CONSTANT training.

          35. glenn398 says

            I would say if that is the result of constant training then they are wasting their time. You say target shooter and I say experienced hunters and ex military.

          36. Mark Lahti says

            That would be the criminals blasting away right? Seeing as how they got their guns illegally, for the most part, in the first place. Then that goes without saying that they were never taught the four basic rules of gun safety. The one you mention being the last of the four, know your background.

          37. Rick Rogers says
          38. Mark Lahti says

            Ok. Read the article. The woman overreacted and should probably face some sort of charges. Something like discharging a firearm in a public place. Still don’t understand your point. Are you a shoplifter? Do you shop at Home Depot? Are you afraid to go out in public for fear of being shot at accidentally? If somebody did fire on someone in a public place either legally or illegally what would you do? Return fire?

          39. Rick Rogers says

            No I am not the one shoplifting. I am the one with my son and daughter that is loading my car in the parking lot just beyond the shoplifter she is firing at. And to answer your other question. Yes if someone is firing a weapon at toward me with my kids beside me and my Glock is in the car I am taking a shot at her if I have a clean background. But how would i know she was not a carjacker trying to steal someones car. “See how that sounds” I would be just as wrong as she was opening fire recklessly. Those are the people with guns that bother me. Those that think they are John or JANE Wayne.

          40. Merle Dickey says

            Well stick that glock ( you think it is OK for a nut like you to have a gun, which I doubt you do ) where the sun doesn’t shine .

          41. Deby says

            LOL good one! that POS idiot doesn’t own a gun-he is afraid of them-he is just a paid libtard troll on this site -but really not earning his money as his remarks are so STUPID.

          42. Merle Dickey says

            He is Just another muslim pervert .A waste of time and air .

          43. Reality Check says

            so is everyone smarter than Merle a Muslim pervert?

            so your saying 99.99% of America is a Muslim pervert?

          44. Rick Rogers says

            Damn who is the fat chick in your profile Picture Merle? you related to her?

          45. pineapple says

            “Those are the people with guns that bother me.”

            So the real mass killers don’t bother you? They don’t seem to bother Obama either, because he refers to them as “workplace violence” or “bumps i n the road.”

          46. Reality Check says

            “So the real mass killers don’t bother you?”

            God you are ill informed considering ALL the SHIT you post.

            There were 353 mass shooting listed HERE

            http://www.shootingtracker.com/w/index.php?title=Mass_Shootings_in_2015&redirect=no

            only TWO of them were Muslims.

            so the REAL MASS killers don’t seem to bother YOU.

            here is another source with links to EVERY news story to PROVE what they say, unlike YOU who post SHIT and no sources.

            why is that silly con?

            cause you are just a tool of the right wing propaganda?

          47. glenn398 says

            So no doubt there are idiots out there but you are just dwelling on one person. If she knew anything about the laws she would know in all states your only right to fire at someone is when your life is in danger.

          48. Rick Rogers says

            So you would agree that she is someone that should not be caring a firearm then?

          49. glenn398 says

            Anyone who carries has the responsibility of knowing the laws and it is obvious she didn’t. Just like driving a car you should know the laws and those that don’t pay the penalty.

          50. Merle Dickey says

            Mark he isn’t intelligent enough to know what to do with anything that would be sold at Home Depot . Look at him .

          51. pineapple says

            “If somebody did fire on someone in a public place either legally or illegally what would you do? Return fire?”

            He would probably wet his pants and then run.

          52. cvxxx says

            That would depend on the individual. Some have reflex action an would return fire. Humans are strange critters. Since she was not under attack there was no need to engage.

          53. 11Mic22hael33 says

            No more gun laws, troll. Got it? The American People will NOT accept ANY MORE illegal, UNconstitutional, bogus “laws”! The Second Amendment will NOT BE INFRINGED——EVER! Supreme Court Case, Marbury vs. Madison(5 US 137) ruled that…”Any law that is REPUGNANT to the U.S. Constitution is NULL AND VOID”!!!! ALL of this gun legislation is BOGUS on it’s face, because it is repugnant to the constitution. WE DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLY!!!!Gun dealers–DO NOT HAVE TO COMPLY!!! obama’s executive orders are BOGUS! Presidents do NOT make laws, CONGRESS does. But even if he could, it is STILL bogus, because it is an infringement on our 2nd Amendment. Get lost TROLL!!!

          54. Rick Rogers says

            wow .. here the thing there cupcake. Nothing he brought up was new it was all about enforcing existing laws on the book.. And by the way Supreme court does not agree with you recently. Lets not forget about the Gun bills that were signed into law but Saint Ronald Reagan. He not only signed them He wrote a letter to the New York Times supporting the Assault weapons Ban in the 1990’s. But answer me there there 11Mic22hhael33.. What will regulated militia do you belong to. I love how you ammosexuals keep forgetting that first part of the 2nd Amendment.. Or how about this. We can throw out all the guns laws. I am good with that lets do it tomorrow.. And the Day after we can pass laws that Tax AMMO and require a license to purchase it. Nothing in the Constitution about banning ammo. How about we get it thru that thick skull of yours. I am not against guns I am against the use of guns by people that can barely Walk and chew gum and that think firearms training means learning which end of the gun to point at want you want to shoot. Would be doing the world a great favor if something them GOT THAT Training Wrong.

          55. 11Mic22hael33 says

            Too bad, your royal highness. You can’t always get what you want. Relocate to china, you marxist commie. Your ideal gun-free marxist utopia, will NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA. Leave.

          56. Reality Check says

            no one in congress is talking about TAKING your guns Moron of the right.

          57. Merle Dickey says

            Don’t have to , the new tech gun will make it impossible for any one to shoot it if the government decides you can’t . And his plan to put a ban on ammo for other guns will make them useless.But what do yp ou puny chickens who suck off the government know . You need to read more

          58. Rick Rogers says

            Mikey mikey. The Constitution has a built in method of change. Nothing in the constitution is set in stone if enough people vote for a change. How many more Sandy Hooks or Columbine High School is it going to take before people say enough is more then enough. We have already reached the point that the Majority of Americans want something done. So you really think its impossible to change the ammosexual mind set. Well its not. People like you give people like me who own guns and respect what they can do a bad name. But you think its impossible. I bet you were one of the ones that thought Gay marriage would never happen. Or Desegregation of schools would never happen. Or that Pot would never be legal. I read Colorado and Oregon don’t know what do with all the money they are earning from Taxing the sale of pot.

          59. 11Mic22hael33 says

            N-O-B-O-D-Y is buying it here, liberal trolls. You two fairies go get a room. You are wasting your time here trolling. You are not changing any minds. When we take this country back, people like you will be rounded up and dealt with once and for all. You are a terminal disease to the most prosperous and most free country in the history of the world.

          60. Rick Rogers says

            So your going to round up people and Deal with them. You have a lot more in common with Jackbootted StormTroopers Then I thought. And I am not talking about Star Wars StormTroopers.. Do you get Nostalgic when you see the Nazi Flag. Would not surprise me. Here is the really sad thing. You don’t realize what it means to live in a free country. You want everyone to toe your line.

          61. 11Mic22hael33 says

            You marxists are a danger to our freedom, and you will be dealt with. In order for this nation to survive, you must be dealt with.

          62. Rick Rogers says

            Dream on Numb nuts you and your other Ammosexuals aren’t man enough to do the job.

          63. 11Mic22hael33 says

            We will see, you perverted weirdo. We will see.

          64. Rick Rogers says

            I use my real name on my post COWARD. You can find me any day you want just look on my facebook page. I don’t hide from Cowards.

          65. Rick Rogers says

            so the person arguing against your plan to ROUND up people that Don’t agree with you is the pervert.. Sounds like you would look good in Gestopa Black.

          66. Merle Dickey says

            Your getting boring . Leave and do back to yuor dirty country .

          67. Merle Dickey says

            Oh great, a gun owning , muslim, doping, queer . And I am sure sucking off the backs of hard working americans . And Colorado and Oregon used to be good places to live , now look at them . All you” things” are moving there every day .

          68. pineapple says

            “Colorado and Oregon don’t know what do with all the money they are earning from Taxing the sale of pot.”

            It’s probably safe to say that you are a major contributor to that tax.

          69. Rick Rogers says

            And you would be wrong.. Never tried it. Not my thing. But its out there and should be taxed just like tobacco and Booze. IT’s safer then both.

          70. Rodger Johnson says

            good luck with that change of the constitution, aint gonna happen in your lifetime!

          71. Rick Rogers says

            Don’t be So sure. It does not require a change just a chance in The Interpretation of the Constitution Interpreting the Counstitution is Job description of the Supreme Court. All it takes is a ruling by that court that the 2nd amendment has a very specific meaning and not the broad one the current court sees. Once that happens state and Local governments can start working on Gun Control measures. So in my lifetime yes.. Because here are the current ages of the Supreme court members when 1st Presidential term for the NEXT president will end. Anthony Kennedy 84.4 years Clarence Thomas 72.5 years old. Average age for men in the United States is 73.6 years for men and 79.4 years for women. So in my life time very likely because In Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy are all ready on borrowed time against the average age.

          72. Merle Dickey says

            Yeh ,you muslims would like that wouldn’t you? What a worthless creep.

          73. Rick Rogers says

            Well well Mention people that Can’t chew gum and walk at the same time And up pops Merle Dickey.. So Merle is your last name because you have a little one?

          74. Deby says

            you are a lying a-hole Ricky-you don’t have the cojones to use a gun so you try and use words to fight your fight. LOSER. nothing you have posted makes one damn bit of sense–not surprising tho, libtards are the party of no common sense. nothing new here.

          75. Rick Rogers says

            Wow Congratulations you may will have said the most stupid thing I have ever come across on this website. Not that it is any of your business but I have used a firearm under fire when I was in service and I would give you the contact information for the person I was firing at but unfortunately I don’t know anyone that can actually speak to the dead. Real adults try to use words BEFORE they draw a firearm. A gun is a list resort not the first act you take.Thanks for proving your one of the ones that should NEVER have a gun. Your own words just proved you are a shoot first ask questions later type. Just the type I have been arguing against this whole thread.

          76. Deby says

            LOL -nope sorry, the award for STUPID BEYOND BELIEF goes directly to you Ricky boy. My opinion stands-you are an a-hole of the first degree-and I suspect quite the accomplished liar as well. I don’t believe a word you write, as most of it is garbled nonsense., but I do think you are a paid troll to this site-didn’t earn your $ however as you are inept and at the risk of repeating myself- stupid.

          77. Rick Rogers says

            You deby are a coward that does not have the guts to sign your name to what you sign. Not talking about a username but the name people could find you and ask you directly about your “ideas”. My info is right there for anyone that wants to take the time to look.. So that Deb.. makes you not only a coward but a stupid coward. But again thanks you have give me lost of material to repost to my facebook group to help grow its membership of REAL Americans.

          78. Deby says

            Guess what troll. I could care less what you think so just quit

          79. Rick Rogers says

            Great maybe you stay out of adult conversations. its not just me Deby your post are getting responses like “What a stupid Cow” over in the facebook group and that’s the nicest things being said.

          80. Rodger Johnson says

            “OH PLEASE MR. DONT SHOOT ME AND RAPE MY DAUGHTER, PLEASE!
            I seriously doubt that will work.

          81. Rick Rogers says

            And this is happen to you exactly how many times in your Life? Or how many people that you know personally that could say it happen where they were in position at the time and place to stop it. Ft hood is a military base. The people there are trained soldiers. The military police all have access to not only their side arms but their assault weapons as well and having those weapons did nothing to stop the Nutjob from shooting up and killing soldiers in the hospital. So on a base filled with Soldiers that are trained in the use of firearms not one of the were present to stop the Bad Guy with a gun. IT took a local Sheriffs deputy that had to travel farther then all those soldiers to stop him. Do you know any police officers. Ask them what they think of civilians running around armed playing cops. Because most of them will tell you they consider the any person standing there with a drawn weapon to be a threat to public safety. Because they never now if that person is going to turn that weapon on them.

          82. Rodger Johnson says

            That “well regulated militia” part is simply clarification for why this amendment was needed, not how it was to be administered, thats what the “shall not be infringed” part is for. Thats the part thats left out by you!

          83. Rick Rogers says

            We will agree to disagree.. The purpose of the amendment was based on what happened with the Intolerable Acts past after the Boston Tea party. In late 1774 the Suffolk resolves were adopted to resist the enforcement of the Alterations made to the the Massachusetts Colonial government as a result of those acts. In response the Colonial Assembly responded by forming what was considered an illegal Provisional Government known as the Massachusetts Provincial Congress which called for the forming of local Militia groups to train for possible Hostilities. On April 18 700 British Army regulars in Boston under Lt Colonel Francis Smith were given orders to capture and Destroy Rebel military Supplies stored by the Massachusetts Militia at Concord. This was what triggered the troop movements that started the Battles of Lexington and Concord which were the first Military engagements of the Revolutionary War. That is why the amendment starts with well regulated militia. It was the attempt by the British to shut down those militia that was the key behind the 2nd amendment. DON”T just Read the words. Trying to understand WHY they were written in the first place. There is a reason they were included and that reason tells you what they meant by them.

          84. Merle Dickey says

            That is why people should be teaching their kids how to learn how to use a gun and have respect for what it can do !!! Blacks are just handed a gun and told to bring home some dough .

          85. Rick Rogers says

            BINGO… now the truth is revealed at last. And you did it with your own words. You are a bigoted Racist piece of Crap that is an insult to every true american you judge people on their color not their actions.

          86. Merle Dickey says

            Actually I was repeating what some one else said earlier . I should have added ” some” blacks . I have black friends and I apologize to them if I offended. But if your muslim ,yes I am a racist . And you sure look and write like your one . Now I have had enough of your childish prater . Be sure and register that glock your so proud of, perverted Mohammad lover

          87. Rick Rogers says

            I really hope someone opens a mosque down the street from you house. That way you will lay awake every night in fear.

          88. pineapple says

            So are you suggesting that no one should try to take out the perpetrator lest they accidentally hit some one else? Does that include cops too?

            These accidental victims will be far fewer than the intended victims of the perpetrators who don’t “look BEYOND their Target.”

            As usual, your post is devoid of logic.

          89. Rick Rogers says

            Cops are trained not to fire unless they have a clean background. Most Civilians training amounts to “How do I load this thing”

          90. Reality Check says

            Pineapple pretends the average citizen with a gun has the training of a cop.

            more evidence you’re not much of a critical thinker and devoid of logic.

            much like your “gun free zone” bull poo.

          91. Emma says

            Gun Control…Hit your target.

        2. Reality Check says

          same old “gun free zone” shit?
          so then you need to explain Columbine, Fort hood, Oregon shooting, Tallahassee training facility shooting.
          there were people with guns at ALL of those locations.

          STOP LYING

          1. 11Mic22hael33 says

            OBAMA-TROLL ALERT! ——– OBAMA-TROLL ALERT!

          2. pineapple says

            In case you are unaware of it, soldiers at Fort Hood and other U.S. military bases are not allowed to carry weapons. This makes them GUN FREE ZONES!

            “there were people with guns at ALL of those locations”
            Yes there were people with guns at all those locations. They are called mass murderers.
            STOP LYING

          3. Reality Check says

            all bases HAVE ARMED GUARDS.
            stop being stupid.

          4. Reality Check says

            Columbine, Oregon shooting?

            not gun free zones.
            theory busted.

        3. Ole Man says

          I copy & pasted Clinton Body Bags”

      4. Emma says

        ?????

    2. nevergiveup says

      That’s it! Take him out of the loop.

    3. Merle Dickey says

      And all his muslim traitors he has working for him !! Too bad About Chris Kyle.

  2. Jerry_Morgan says

    My gun is already a SMART GUN. The Smart part has it’s finger on the trigger. That’s all legal gun owners need. There is nothing more useless than an unloaded gun, a gun with a trigger lock or a gun that won’t fire when you need it because of some device or mechanism built into it that makes it unusable. The need for gun use is very stressful even for well experienced users and one doesn’t need to worry about where the key to the trigger lock is or how to make the gun usable with a disabling device installed. That time of inaction will get you killed.
    – – Jerry Morgan

    1. pineapple says

      Will the secret service be required to use “smart” guns? Probably not.

      1. TAM44 says

        No their special, we’re just dirt under the governments feet.

        1. Merle Dickey says

          We are just working slaves to finance their take over of our lives . Those of you on welfare better get a life because when they don’t need your weak.worthless life style you will be the first to go !!!!

      2. Jim Freund says

        Peace officers would be okay to have them.

    2. glenn398 says

      Jerry agree it is a people problem not a gun problem. In 1954 at the age of 14 went into the coast to coast store and by myself bought a pump 16 gauge shot gun. We never had any kid kill themselves with dads gun nor did we have any murders in our city. Of course dads in those days taught kids the dangers and worked with the kids starting with BB guns to get them to understand the rules and dangers. Big problem today, is a lot of homes without such a thing as a father anymore and there-in lies a lot of the problem.

      1. Jimmy Quick says

        ..

        1. glenn398 says

          You sure hit the nail on the head there, there has been no one in any office that has done more to destroy this country then him.

          1. Jimmy Quick says

            Problem is, he’s not finished yet.

          2. glenn398 says

            Yes and in a year can do a tremendous amount of damage and it looks like he is on a fast track to do as much as possible.

          3. Ole Man says

            If fools vote for Hillary it will only get worst if that’s possible “

          4. Rick Rogers says

            Cant get any worst then the BUSH YEARS.

          5. ihatelibs says

            DICKHEADED LIBTURD

          6. Rick Rogers says

            Thank you for displaying your amazing command of English. You rank right up there with Preschoolers in your display of skills.. Oh.. I don’t hate you.. Pity you

          7. Emma says

            That ay be, but he is intelligent enough to not vote for a lying , thieving ,murderous pile of trash.
            Those are probably her better attributes.

          8. Rick Rogers says

            Yea I don’t Blame him. I would not vote for Carly Fiorina either. We agree on that.

          9. Emma says

            A pity …Some just were born missing common sense.
            I m truly sorry for you.

          10. Rick Rogers says

            Not as much as I feel sorry for you. It takes a real out of touch person to constantly vote against their own interest.

          11. Emma says

            Then why do you do it?!

          12. Merle Dickey says

            Because he is a lazy worthless liberal. His Mommy must be so proud . Actually they are good for a laugh .

          13. Emma says

            Sometimes when I read their posts I get so tickled I can’t see straight.
            You know , sometimes stupid is just flat funny,
            They really are not intelligent enough to realize how absolutely rediculous. they sound. Almost feel bad for th sometimes. Special needs maybe, I don’t know, but funny as the dickens mostly. 😉

          14. Merle Dickey says

            Don’t feel sorry for him . He loves the muzzies .

          15. Emma says

            Trust me when I say “sorry for him” is the FARTHEST from my thoughts for a traitor. 😉

          16. Merle Dickey says

            Good for you 🙂

          17. Michael Dennewitz says

            TROLL ALERT! DICKHEAD TROLL ALERT!!! ROFLMAO

          18. Rick Rogers says

            You know you would think you would realize the only person that you are making a fool of is yourself when you come back with no Argument based on any facts. Your like that Kid on the playground that turns to name calling. So please don’t be surprised when I treat you like the spoiled immature brat that you are. Its your words causing it not me. And to get respect from any person you simple have some argument to make. On last thing the only one that gets hurt when you say LIBTURD is you because you ignore that the country would not even be around if it were not for a group of liberals that stood up in 1775 and said enough is enough.

          19. Emma says

            These creatures are two of the simpletons that are still alive simply because it illegal
            to kill them.
            They are lower han the dog mess you wash off your shoe.
            You can NOT fix stupid.
            They are a waste of the skin they are in, & certainly such fools…..
            Look up STUPID in the dictionary..their pictures are there as the definition

          20. Emma says

            Bush surely made mistakes, but by Heaven, he saw that our troops had what they needed to fight.
            Fairie barry disallowed them to fight & actually had some brought up on murder charges.
            he is no more than a walking talking bag of putrid maggot
            filled pus!!
            barry has refused to allow our troops what they need , has caused incredible loss of life, both here & abroad, is bringing the enemy HERE to finish our destruction. (he thinks)
            obarry is in for a surprise.

          21. Rick Rogers says

            You know you really might want to do a google search before you make comments that the facts don’t support.. This was in 2004.. about 4 years before Obama took office.

            http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-26-body-armor_x.htm

          22. Rick Rogers says
          23. Rick Rogers says

            Or even this one which was about 7 months before the 2008 election

            http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2008/0306/p03s06-usmi.html

          24. Rick Rogers says

            And lets not even TALK about the fact that he invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and then made up some lame excuse about WMD. And the only ones that were ever even close to being WMD were some old Rusting Chemical Weapons shells that would have been more dangerous to the Gun crews Firing them then the people they were aiming at.

          25. Merle Dickey says

            You again Aren’t you smart enough to know most of that is not true . Can’t be proven, such as the damage this piece of crap in office is doing but your one of them so why should we care . Folks, .This guy is one of Obamas trolls . .

          26. Rick Rogers says

            So tell me does it hurt where Fox News Set the hook in your mouth cause you have bought their crap hook line and Sinker. Difference between you and me besides the Fact I am an american and your not. is that I don’t take statements at face value without out solid proof.. Your like the Girl in the State Farm Commercial with the French male Model you think because its on Fox it must be true. So tell me how do you like the fact that most of your “NEWS” comes from a company that is half owned by a Muslim??

          27. Merle Dickey says

            LOL I don’t watch FOX like you do . I assume you do since you have such a strong opinion of it . I have a much better true news station called ONA . Cleaned your Glock lately? ( he is so proud of his little Glock)

          28. Rick Rogers says

            Bullshit you parrot their “line” to much not to be a Life long viewer.

          29. Michael Dennewitz says

            I think he’s related to unreality chick there!!!

          30. Merle Dickey says

            They do seem to have the same dialogue going don’t they ?

          31. Merle Dickey says

            You think he is a chick? I thought he said something about his wife but he seems too immature to be married .

          32. glenn398 says

            All Bush could go by was the intelligence reports that said they did have WMD and since the democrats were a majority guess they fooled them also.

          33. Rick Rogers says

            He only Showed Congress the Intel Reports that The CIA told Bush had been discredited but Bush and Cheney when for it anyway.. There Was money to be made in Iraq oil. And don’t try and say it was a fantasy. 2 weeks after he took office as VP, 8 months BEFORE 9/11 Cheney commissioned a government report that basically ask how long would it take American Oil Companies to Get the Iraqi oilfields up and Running? If he was not planning on “owning those oilfields” Why the report?? The Report was released under a Freedom of information act that the Washington Post initiated. Anyone that defends Bush Defends the most Corrupt President Right up there with that other Republican Richard Nixon.

          34. glenn398 says

            I don’t know what reports he had and you don’t either as the news reports in bits and peaces to slant the news. What I do know is an FBI agent reported where those Muslim’s were learning to fly only not take off or land and the FBI totally ignored that report. Also know before the huge attack in Vietnam the CIA reported no danger of an attack as all is quite. So the CIA only went by radio communications ignoring the fact that there could be any other kind of communications. That is like saying in the old days there were no Indians around because there were only smoke signals to be seen and no drums were sending signals.

          35. Rick Rogers says

            Actually we do.. Because Tony Blair got the same reports from Bush and he just recently said the information was false plus we have the Briefing officer from the CIA who told Bush there was an eminent Danger of an attack by terrorist and Bush told him ” ok you covered your ass whats Next” Direct quote from the Briefing officer.

          36. glenn398 says

            So you just want to ignore the part I quoted about the FBI

          37. Rick Rogers says

            Not ignoring anything we were not talking about the FBI we were talking about what the CIA told Bush.

          38. glenn398 says

            If the FBI had done their job it would have been part of what Bush was told.

          39. Rick Rogers says

            Not making excuses for what the FBI did or did not do. All I know is the Bush/Cheney Regime Spent trillions of dollars attacking a country because of 9/11 that had nothing to do with 9/11. In fact Al Qaeda hated Saddam and did not even move into Iraq until Saddam was in prison waiting to be Hanged.

          40. glenn398 says

            I won’t disagree with you as have stated in previous postings we should have never got involved there. Everything we have done in the middle east has just screwed up things worse then before we did anything. Have also posted let the middle east fight their own wars and as far as that will even go into Vietnam along with Korea. All we should be doing is providing support and to me nothing more. We got dragged into WW1 and WW2 because of the stupid actions of the European countries and our military was set up only to protect us from foreign invasion and has been used for everything but that. As far as foreign invasion we don’t protect ourselves at all by not defending our borders here.

          41. Rick Rogers says

            ok good glad we agree on that. I just am tired of everyone Willing to ignore the wrongs of the people that came before Barack Obama was even in office before he was even in the SENATE. I can think of at least 2 cases he followed laws or treaties what were signed by the BUSH ADMIN and yet the conservatives what to eat him alive.. The immigration law that allowed children to enter the country that traveled thru Mexico to get there. And the Troop with Draw that Bush signed . As for the economy yes there was a bump in spending but if there had not been then there could have been Millions more laid off. I hate the idea of bailing out the banks be there would have been more massive layoffs. I leave in Charlotte which is the HQ of the Biggest Bank and at the time was HQ of the Fouth largest. Bank of America and Wachoiva… I had friends and family that worked for both banks. I can’t even count the number of People I know that were laid of in that time frame and how they struggled to find work at least half of what the use to make. The Stock Market was in the tank and yet even taking into a count the movement caused by China Slowdown its still MUCH Higher then when Bush left office. I have no problem judging Barack Obama but do it with facts not made up fantasy Stories. About 20 or 30 years from now kids in school are going to read in history books about how successful he was as president even those there was a mass movement to obstruct him.

          42. glenn398 says

            The biggest problem in this world is over population, the same as if you had an apartment big enough for two and could get along well with just the two of you. Then you decide to add 6 more people to live in the same apartment and things would greatly change. We have in this country things like Johnson’s great society that rewards women to breed with no responsibility.plus all the other programs to take care of those unwilling to be responsible for themselves. So not only do we promote that here but we since I have been a kid in the 40s sent tons of food to feed the starving in Africa. What are the results, more starving today then there ever was. A professor at the University of Wisconsin said back in the 50s don’t feed those people because if you don’t a few hundred will starve to death but if you do down the road hundreds of thousands will starve to death. Well he was right but was run out of his professorship and town so even back then you couldn’t tell the truth.

          43. Rick Rogers says

            that is a problem but short of China Version Birth Rate laws there is not alot we can do about it. We need to find ways to help make countrys self sufficient as far as food and Water. The basics. If we can do that then we can start working. I did is not going to study very hard in school if his stomach is growling. One of the best things we could do is trying to find cheaper ways to turn saltwater into fresh water. Then maybe we can get things to start growing in areas that are short of water.

          44. glenn398 says

            We can stop feeding those people because the more we feed them the more they breed. We have been trying to help those in the African nation since I was a kid and they still can’t do anything for themselves. The whites were run out of south Africa and the blacks took over running the farms. They went from selling their surplus food to now having to import their food to get enough to feed their own people. So they couldn’t even take over farms already set up for them and make a go of it.

          45. Rick Rogers says

            Ok don’t take offense but that would not be a very christian thing to do.

          46. glenn398 says

            It isn’t very christian to make matters worse by feeding them so that they have more kids to suffer either.

          47. Rick Rogers says

            Proverbs 28:27
            Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

          48. glenn398 says

            By feeding those people we have already got a ton of curses.

          49. Rick Rogers says

            We will have to agree to disagree then. I think you can never go wrong feeding someone that hungry. Because if you don’t its going to cause desperate people and Desperate people lead to unstable governments and unstable governments will do anything. Not insulting you but the “let them starve thinking” is sort of the mindset that use to be used in Soviet Union and North Korea. IF you tie Food Aid to the “teach them to fish” idea then you make friends. As I said before I think the bigger challenge is fresh drinking water instead of food. To many places that its hard to find. With out Water you can’t grow food.

          50. glenn398 says

            The problem is you have to be intelligent enough to set up the system to irrigate the land and it seems missing in a lot of countries. You can’t just keep feeding people without them advancing, that is what built our huge ghetto’s is providing without any expectations of them and rewarding them to breed.

          51. Merle Dickey says

            Guess you didn’t read where they found a large cache of them in N Iraq( the Iraqis) and also your pals the ISIS also found another cache . And where do you think Syria got all their mass piles of WMDs ? Remember the huge caravan of trucks that was seen by satellite? This guy is a liberal troll folks .

          52. Rick Rogers says

            And I guess you did not read where everyone of them were left over from the Iraq Iran war and all of them were rusting and leaking and were not operational. They would have gone off the second someone had tried to use them. There were NO WMD that could have been used to attack anyone but themselves.

          53. Merle Dickey says

            Why don’t you put some recent sites on about Obama years ? Oh i forgot your his troll.

          54. glenn398 says

            Bush had nothing to do with procurement, it is up to the military leaders to decide what to spend the money on and even when it is decided on takes a long time to implement.

          55. Rick Rogers says

            Glenn398 Emma’s Statement was “Bush surely made mistakes, but by Heaven, he saw that our troops had what they needed to fight.” Since its pretty clear he did not that makes her statement untrue and that is what I the links were for

          56. glenn398 says

            Bush’s part was to procure the money, it is up to those with the military knowledge as to how to spend the money.

          57. Rick Rogers says

            AND THAT MAKES EMMA’s statement False because it it was Trying that BUSH made sure they had what they need they would not have been buying their own body armor. I am not arguing about Procure and Am saying EMMA’s Statement is false.

          58. glenn398 says

            I don’t agree with you as Bushes part was getting the bill passed for the money needed to fight the war, it was up to the military to decide how to use that money.

          59. Rick Rogers says

            ok one more time.. HE DID NOT GET A BILL PASSED.. HE DID NOT PRESENT A BILL Therefore EMMA state that he made sure the troops had what they needed is false. I know for a fact they didn’t because we held a fund raising drive to help pay for the armor for some the the Reserves out of Charlotte area. Don’t understand what is so hard about the fact that EMMA TOLD A LIE.. Or believes one. Which is just as bad.

          60. glenn398 says

            What is so hard for you to understand that the military puts forward the request for military spending and the presidents job is getting that amount passed. After that he doesn’t go out and purchase the equipment himself. As far as buying body armor that has been strong since Obama took office. So in this case your beloved president is the one who you should be talking about but like all lefties you continue to blame Bush for everything.

          61. Rick Rogers says

            March 20, 2003 That was the Date of the start of the Iraq War.. Thats

            2625 days form Nov 4 2008 which was election day.
            Or 7 years, 2 months, 8 days including the end date

            7 years of war in both Afghanistan and IRAQI.. So please PLEASE tell me how this is NOT Bush’s fault that the troops were short of Body Armor and had to buy their own. And please at the same time tell me how its the Fault of Barack Obama when he was representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004

          62. glenn398 says

            Well Obama has been in office for 7 years and I don’t see any big change or is it since Bush didn’t buy body armor as you stated It is up to Obama to not do it either.

          63. Rick Rogers says

            One of the Bumps in Spending was in his first year when he order the Pentagon to use Discretionary funds to buy what was missing for the troops. The other big piece as that the So called “armor vehicles the troops rode around in were not armored enough against the type of weapons that the insurgents were using. So alot of those killed were killed riding around Iraq.

          64. glenn398 says

            Like they always say you build a better mouse trap and I will build a better mouse.

          65. Reality Check says

            well Emma, this is how a liberal PROVES that Emma is a LOW INFO con and should not vote.

            “GOP Slashes Veterans Benefits. Because Support The Troops!”

            http://reverbpress.com/politics/gop-slashes-veterans-benefits-because-support-the-troops/

            “U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans’ health bill”

            http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-usa-veterans-congress-idUSBREA1Q26O20140227#YH4PShLEA1sQuPZQ.97

            So tool of right wing Propaganda, it seem it is the GOP cutting veterans benefits.

            maybe you can prove you are not a LIAR?

            YOU are the one in for a surprise, ignorant old fool.

          66. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Senility! Poor, poor tired old ass! Ever heard of a “rider”? It’s when so much pork is added to a budget that the only solution is to veto the entire bill. It is you leftist TURDS that spit on veterans and our military.

          67. Merle Dickey says

            Another brilliant unemployed millennium !! Wastes of air .

          68. Tommy p says

            GTFO

          69. Merle Dickey says

            He is troll

          70. glenn398 says

            Bet you loved Carter also and still think he was a great president.

          71. Rick Rogers says

            He was problem the most Christian man to hold office in the last 50 years. Yes he is a great man that was just president at the wrong time.

          72. glenn398 says

            At the wrong time, what kind of statement is that? Only if there was nothing going on in the nation would it have been the right time for him. You can proclaim to be a Christian that doesn’t mean you are one. Everyone that had to work with Carter said what an ass he was but loved his wife as the wonderful person she was.

          73. Rick Rogers says

            What it means was his principles and Ideas about human rights were on the money but the world at large was not ready for them yet. All you have to do is look at what has happen since to understand. He spends his time helping with fair elections in other countries. Building houses with Habit for Human to give people a chance at a home instead of homelessness. Pretty impressive. Oh by the way.. That are DUBBA’s Paintings going for now a days??

          74. glenn398 says

            That’s nice it still isn’t the job of being president and he also pushes the EPA to the extreme.

          75. Michael Dennewitz says

            Here we go folks, EVERYTHING in the world is Bush’s fault. What a dildo!!

          76. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Will Ohillary blame Bush too? Millions on the dole, senilitychick, pRick Rogers et al, won’t want the gravy train to stop.

          77. Merle Dickey says

            Isn’t that what 90% of the libs are?Have their hands out all the time . They should be called Gimme, Gimmes

          78. Merle Dickey says

            LOL I like that

          79. Rick Rogers says

            Yes Bush was a dildo I agree.. And what was his fault was everything that lead up to the state the Country was in when The President took office and Dubba rode off to his Ranch in Texas hopefully to never be heard from again. The state of the Military and its Depletion was his Fault. The Wars he started and the money wasted Were his fault. The No Bid Contract given to Halliburton yep that was his Fault. The Immigration problem was his fault because of not taking action. Last time checked he was Govenor of Texas before he was President I did not SEE HIM doing anything about the border during anytime he was in office. It was Bush that signed the Agreement to pull the troops out. (your remember right it was that trip that he almost got hit by the Shoe thrown by an Iraqi) Once Obama took office The Iraqi’s had no desire to change the agreement and he had people trying to amend it up until the time it was suppose to go into effect by the Iraqi’s would only do it if The US allowed US Military member to be on Trial in a Iraqi court if there was any suspected Wrong Doing and Obama said no. Or would you rather he exposed the men and woman of our Military to that? So Obama followed the agreement and in came ISIS. The state of the Economy was his fault. If you think Everything STOPS and Responsibility for what happens ends just when you leave office then you have a few things to learn about what Responsibility means.

          80. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Didn’t have sharia law under Bush, or BLM or the rest of the America hating slime that we have now.

          81. Rick Rogers says

            IF you actually Understood what the Term Sharia law meant you would not be making that statement. Because I have some shocking news for you Every time you hear a politician Like Palin, or Bachmann, Cruz or Trump say “they want US Laws to follow the laws of the bible” then they are promoting Sharia Law.. You see Sharia law is RELIGIOUS LAW. You can make any excuse you want but ANY religious law is Sharia law.. So what do all these GOP mainstays keep talking about following it? The only ones that Hates America are the White Trash that show up at White power rallies. The ones that See the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and don’t understand its not a “white man only ” club.

            One last thing. While Christians are the majority in this country and That Document I referenced above the Constitution has this little line in it.

            Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

            Suprise, Suprise.. That mans the Black Lives Matter groups have the right to assemble even if you Don’t like it. That the government can not favor one Religion over another.

            If you don’t live breathe and honor and even offer up your life to support that 1st Amendment then you have no right to call yourself an American. Because you don’t understand the first thing about it.

          82. glenn398 says

            Trouble is there is one hell of a lot of fools in this country plus those that just vote for what’s in it for me, then throw in the emotion of women and she will be hard to beat. Those tears that Obama squeezed out almost drove the women insane.

          83. Emma says

            I am a woman & my opinion is thi killary clinton person is not. She is something you don’t even want to mess with scraping ff the bottom of your shoes. Just burn them.
            I do ot know one single person who ould vote for it, male or female.

          84. glenn398 says

            We will see in the next election as it was the woman votes that got Obama elected twice.

          85. Emma says

            This surper was not elected, but was installed to do precisely what he has done & continues to do.
            It is up to us to remove him.
            Never should have even been permitted into the USA to begin ith, let alone run for any public office!

          86. glenn398 says

            Guess my point should have been with all the illegal votes plus the cheating it was the woman votes that pushed him over the top

          87. Emma says

            No REAL woman voted for that muslim trash.
            Female maybe, but no real woman..

          88. glenn398 says

            Trouble is real woman or not that’s what got him in as there just wasn’t enough of clear thinking woman like you Emma

          89. Emma says

            I am sorry that more people don’t see passed their noses.
            Yes, I understand what you mean.;)
            Did you see where Canada is sueing obama over the keystone pipeline?
            & other key players in his illegal regime.

          90. glenn398 says

            Don’t see past their noses or don’t want to. Obama will do anything to go against what the citizens of this country wants. A real eye popper is when they send a crew out and ask questions on the college campus. They will ask the students to point out on a map where say a city like Denver is and the students will point anywhere from Europe to South America.

          91. Patriot068 says

            It’s embarasing isn’t it?? Hell in 4th grade or 3rd I had to name all states and capitol on a blank map, and college kids can’t even do that!! ( Obamas dumbing down of students) is how he and his party stay in power! How for the life of me some of these kids ever got into college is beyond me!’ Seems were graduating a generation of retards to carry on the libtard, & demorat, ideals

          92. glenn398 says

            Like have said in the past the lowest I.Q. have been have most of the kids for several decades now and you see the results.

          93. Merle Dickey says

            I think that is part of his plan .Most of the hate remarks on here are from Millenniums!!

          94. Merle Dickey says

            Almost all students under 26 are so indoctrinated it is extremely frightening !!!

          95. glenn398 says

            It started with the college students but as you can see it has moved from there down to high school and now grade school. The only thing left is if they required you to bring your toddler to them for indoctrinating.

          96. Merle Dickey says

            I would say Yea except they just brought thousands of muslims into their country and guess ‘ borders are standing wide open!!!

          97. Merle Dickey says

            whos”

          98. Emma says

            I think things are about to change. Rather quickly.
            This illegal poc has pushed everyone, not just Americans,
            to the point where he is in danger of being removed, with great prejudice, quite possibly by foreign entities.
            We have no allies left.
            No one trusts him, likes him & certainly do not respect him.
            He literally has conducted himself in such a despotic, unsavory, dishonest manner, that he has not only endangered America & the World, but himself.
            The ONLY thing anyone can put any faith in him about is that he is always going to make the choice that is going to cause the most harm.
            He is a narcissistic little fudge packing sadist.
            jmo. Think about it. It is the truth.

          99. Reality Check says

            so what is the definition of a “real woman”

            barefoot and pregnant?
            someone who KNOWS that the MALE is the BOSS?

            this I got to know, Emma.
            pretty sure my wife is off the “woman” reservation.

          100. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Why did Ted, John, Bobby and Slick Willy hate women so much?

          101. glenn398 says

            Don’t know about the rest but in Slick Willy’s case can understand.

          102. Ed Shick says

            I think real men did not vote him in ether , That is one reason that men in our Military voted and if over seas , they did not have time to count them ,

          103. Emma says

            That was deliberately done because they hate fairy barry

          104. Patriot068 says

            Your right the Military vote WAS NOT COUNTED!! they knew if it was that Barry would have lost, besides dead people voting, people voting 2-3x 2012 was a sham ! Obozo lost PERIOD but he cheated

          105. glenn398 says

            The military vote has always been counted in the past and is suppose to be counted so why can they get away with not counting it since Obama ran? Yet didn’t see the republicans do anything about this as usual, that’s the main problem.

          106. Patriot068 says

            It’s the Electoral votes!! It goes by population wether it be legal or illegal, an illegal can help the outcome of an election even if they cant vote. Why do you think all these illegals are being strategic ly placed in BLUE STATES with high electoral votes. I say we bring back the POPULAR VOTE! Where EVERYONE’S VOTE IS COUNTED!! None of this electoral BS which sways the election in Demorats favor because it’s full of illegals who can’t vote but their being their allows the state more electoral votes because of it. I say BRING BACK THE POPULAR VOTE!! and NO MORE CHEATING ELECTORAL VOTING which Obama and his goons set up in BLUE STATES!! ( CHECK IT OUT)

          107. glenn398 says

            Numbers are numbers no matter how you count it. The electoral vote is determined by the popular vote so don’t see the difference. Who says illegals can’t vote, they just caught 5 illegal women in Texas that voted 5 times and don’t forget Johnson got elected to the senate with votes from the grave.

          108. Patriot068 says

            Then if the illegals voted their votes should be negated. I’ve always said we need a national registration card system and yes they DO go by populace! Those states with illegals are going to be picking up MORE ELECTORAL VOTES BECAUSE OF THE HEADCOUNTS OF ILLEGALS

          109. glenn398 says

            So how do you negate their votes especially with the supreme court rulings. Then you have those like the black panthers running the voting booths and huge areas where there was not one republican vote registered, now what is the possibly of that?

          110. Ed Shick says

            Cleveland was a great example , no one voted for Romney in 2012, and the Republican Convention is in Cleveland in 2016 , Unchecked voting machines are no good !

          111. glenn398 says

            Well unless I am blind and deaf sure didn’t hear or seen any outcry from the republicans about any of this so how do we get this corrected when the people that could challenge this say nothing. They haven’t said anything starting with Johnson winning the senate with votes from the grave..

          112. Patriot068 says

            “OATH KEEPERS!!” EVER HEARD OF THEM!!they will smack the New Black Pather criminals pee-pees!!
            Time for fake votes. Voter intimidation to be gone!! ALL ILLEGALS SHOULD NOT.BE HEAD COUNTED IN THE POPULACE OF BLUE STATES AS IS BRING DONE NOW!! EV ER WONDER WHY THE ILLEGALS ARE USHERED INTO BLUE STATES?? It’s because the states with the highest populace no matter if they are legal or illegal Get MORE ELECTORAL VOTES READ UP ON IT. A national voter I’D CARD SHOULD BE ISSUED TO EVERY ELIGIBLE VOTER ! PERIOD and when the illegals become LEGAL CITIZENS THEN THEY GET ONE TOO!!

          113. glenn398 says

            That’s what should happen but both you and I know it never will and the democrats will make sure it doesn’t happen.

          114. Merle Dickey says

            It is impossible but nothing was done about it Just sweep it under the rug !! Obama is suing states which have Voter ID !

          115. glenn398 says

            A lot would be possible if the republicans grew a backbone but I don’t look for that to happen

          116. Ed Shick says

            You are right we need a Voter card issued to American citizens with a Picture, pertinent information , That has ether a bar code or chip and it will allow you to vote one time during Election , It should be held on a National level as many people have homes in different states and this 30 day voting is way to long ,If we are using voting machines they should be checked by both Parties at least every day ,, There should not be voting at a polls with only one person there , Voting by Mail should be very limited as it is hard to check ID’s , but there card should be used when they apply for absintee Ballot! , Ohio needs help and probably the rest of our Nation , I wonder if we had an honest vote Obama would have made it past his Acorn Job!

          117. Patriot068 says

            I agree 100%!! Look at the Military absentee ballots that were not counted AND THROWN OUT!! THAT’S BS! their voices should have Been heard and I guarantee 95% did NOT VOTE FOR THE PIECE OF SHIT IN THE WH!

          118. Merle Dickey says

            He should be in prison on trial for treason

          119. Emma says

            I really believe he must be removed, arrested, charged, sentenced &hanged.
            He certainly cannot be permitted to just walk away …Frankly, I thi.k he has ridden the backs of the tax payers long enough.
            I see no reason to keep him in prison & pay for him for the rest of his life. NO!
            Hang or firing squad.
            All the traitors in fact.?

          120. Merle Dickey says

            many of us agree with you Emma

          121. Emma says

            That is because we value ourselves, our independent way of life, our Freedom, &we aren’ suckli.g o. govt hind tit!!

          122. Reality Check says

            many of you right wing wackos agree.
            in the real world we think you are all a bit “OFF”
            (well actually a bit more than a little off)

          123. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Your time is about up senilitychick. It’ll be time to pay for your own Depends. Your fraud usurper in the People’s House has had 7 years to screw up, embolden the sharia law supporters and import more illiterate, welfare sucking refugees. Now go smoke a bowl and get those work boots ready!

          124. Patriot068 says

            Heyyyyyy mannnn what boots?? He’s stuffing another pipe and just changed his diapers lol

          125. Merle Dickey says

            I don’t think he works unless he is a paid troll for Obama but I don’t think he is smart enough . Probably a computer gamer .

          126. Merle Dickey says

            If the real world is Obamas ruling then your not only a bit off but should have some shock treatments . Now can the rest of us get on with some decent comments with out your attempts to bully everyone child .

          127. Reality Check says

            But Emma, you can’t arrest someone for being Black?

            it just won’t work.

            so what else you got, silly one?

            what HATE media do you listen to that has warped you mind this way?
            Obama WILL go down in history as one of the better presidents, especially after saving the country form the GOP disaster in 2008.

          128. Emma says

            He isn’t black.
            Besides, his wrappings don’t matter. It’s what is inside, & all that is inside this so & so
            is putrid maggot filled putrid pus.
            You really should not talk to me. You, like barry boy, are a waste of the skin you are in.
            I do not care about your opinions.
            One must be capable of thought in order to form opinions.
            That lets you out.
            A friend has a saying & it fits here.
            Some folks are still walking around simply because it is illegal to kill them.

          129. Michael Dennewitz says

            He’s just the neighborhood, faggot TROLL Emma. He thrives on people’s comments!!

          130. Emma says

            I know Michael.
            I don’ let stupid bother me. 🙂
            Just another one who needs a ladder to reach the level of isiousy, but I don’t imagine they have enough about them to even know how to climb a ladder. 😉

          131. Merle Dickey says

            absolutely !!

          132. Patriot068 says

            Oh I agree with Reality Check alright!! Obamas presidential library is going to be FILLED with him putting us ( how many trillions in debt?,the rise of ISIS N Korean failure,him allowing Iran a Nuclear bomb, him Riffing thousands of military making us basicly a 3rd world military nation ( weakest sense pre-WW2 ); His failure to finish the job in Iraq & Afghanistan, the Syrian debacle, the rise of ISIS IN THE USA! And WORLD WIDE!! The “JV” team went pro!! Driving USA Equipment left in Iraq. Now ISIS has anti tank killing weapons that can take out an Abrams MBT,so jus exactly according to “Reality Check ” are Obozos accomplishments??
            P.S. I forgot to add that Obama has been gunsalesman, of they year 8 years in a row!!!

          133. Emma says

            Amen Patriot068. 🙂

          134. Merle Dickey says

            And that’s the good stuff !! “)

          135. OSAMA OBAMA says

            LMAO! Better presidents?? LOLOLO more like bitter presidents! Tell me Senilitychick, has his golf game improved?

          136. pineapple says

            19 Signs That American Families Are Being Economically Destroyed (See #16)

            Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/09/2015 Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
            The systematic destruction of the American way of life is happening all around us, and yet most people have no idea what is happening. Once upon a time in America, if you were responsible and hardworking you could get a good paying job that could support a middle class lifestyle for an entire family even if you only had a high school education. Things weren’t perfect, but generally almost everyone in the entire country was able to take care of themselves without government assistance. We worked hard, we played hard, and our seemingly boundless prosperity was the envy of the entire planet. But over the past several decades things have completely changed. We consumed far more wealth than we produced, we shipped millions of good paying jobs overseas, we piled up the biggest mountain of debt in the history of the world, and we kept electing politicians that had absolutely no concern for the long-term future of this nation whatsoever. So now good jobs are in very short supply, we are drowning in an ocean of red ink, the middle class is rapidly shrinking and dependence on the government is at an all-time high. Even as we stand at the precipice of the next great economic crisis, we continue to make the same mistakes. In the end, all of us are going to pay a very great price for decades of incredibly foolish decisions. Of course a tremendous amount of damage has already been done. The numbers that I am about to share with you are staggering. The following are 19 signs that American families are being economically destroyed…(Look at #19)
            #1 The poorest 40 percent of all Americans now spend more than 50 percent of their incomes just on food and housing.
            #2 For those Americans that don’t own a home, 50 percent of them spend more than a third of their incomes just on rent.
            #3 The price of school lunches has risen to the 3 dollar mark at many public schools across the nation.
            #4 McDonald’s “Dollar Menu & More” now includes items that cost as much as 5 dollars.
            #5 The price of ground beef has doubled since 2009.
            #6 In 1986, child care expenses for families with employed mothers used up 6.3 percent of all income. Today, that figure is up to 7.2 percent.
            #7 Incomes fell for the bottom 80 percent of all income earners in the United States during the 12 months leading up to June 2014.
            #8 At this point, more than 50 percent of all American workers bring home less than $30,000 a year in wages.
            #9 After adjusting for inflation, median household income has fallen by nearly $5,000 since 2007.
            #10 According to the New York Times, the “typical American household” is now worth 36 percent less than it was worth a decade ago.
            #11 47 percent of all Americans do not put a single penny out of their paychecks into savings.
            #12 One survey found that 62 percent of all Americans are currently living paycheck to paycheck.
            #13 According to the U.S. Department of Education, 33 percent of all Americans with student loans are currently behind on their student loan debt repayments.
            #14 According to one recent report, 43 million Americans currently have unpaid medical debt on their credit reports.
            #15 The rate of homeownership in the U.S. has been declining for seven years in a row, and it is now the lowest that it has been in 20 years.
            #16 For each of the past six years, more businesses have closed in the United States than have opened. Prior to 2008, this had never happened before in all of U.S. history.
            #17 According to the Census Bureau, 65 percent of all children in the United States are living in a home that receives some form of aid from the federal government.
            #18 If you have no debt at all, and you also have 10 dollars in your wallet, that you are wealthier than 25 percent of all Americans.
            #19 On top of everything else, the average American must work from January 1st to April 24th just to pay all federal, state and local taxes

          137. CF says

            I have emailed my Congressman, demanding an answer as to WHY nothing is was done, or to be done about what has been done to this country. More WHY is he being protected, along with the cronies.

          138. Reality Check says

            for what exactly silly ganny?

            being black?
            being a democrate?

          139. OSAMA OBAMA says

            What’s a democrate? A wooden box that ya haul crap in??

          140. Merle Dickey says

            Who said anything about him being black? YOU DID ! Oh my god , are you prejudiced . Dork

          141. Apolloone says

            There was a time in America when people like Obama and company would have been given a date with a Hangman, the word Treason is rarely mentioned these days, the Patriots that oppose Obama are the Traitors in the new Amerika; the Marxist Media will go to work ASAP on Obama’s behalf.

          142. Merle Dickey says

            Our media mostly is lies. We need to refuse to put their channels on. Hurt them in their pockets .

          143. Rick Rogers says

            Starting with Fox news. Who when to court for the Right to present lies.

          144. pineapple says

            In case you thought there might be some bias in news reporting….

            How’s this for having the “inside track”?

            YOU HAD A HUNCH THE NEWS SYSTEM WAS RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT SOLVE THE PUZZLE.

            ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

            CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

            ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney

            ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

            ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

            CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
            And now you know why it is no surprise the media is in Obama’s pocket.
            Ya think there might be a little bias in the news ???
            It also explains the cover up of Benghazi………

          145. Rick Rogers says

            FOX NEWS Half owned by an Austrialian and A Muslim Prince that has been quoted as saying a STRONG America is not in Saudia Arabia’s Best Interest.

            So those muslims your so afraid of.. Alot of you are getting your news from them.

          146. Reality Check says

            “This usurper was not elected, but was installed”

            Proof you need to be in a mental hospital and not allowed to vote.

            so how did he get in office?
            WHO was he installed BY?

            are you sane enough to feed yourself?

          147. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Blather on old basturd!

          148. Merle Dickey says

            I am sure you must have escaped worthless POS

          149. CF says

            if HC gets in the WH, it is going to be much worse, as he will just pass the baton onto her, to continue the mission.

          150. Apolloone says

            I have my doubts he was elected by the popular votes but as you stated “Installed” I realize there are many fools in America today but how many actually vote, I said to my wife at least thirty years ago that if ever the fools can be harnessed as a vote America will become a mixture of Fascism-Communism-Socialism all rolled into one, a type of Totalitarianism that has never been before, whatever it will be called it wont resemble the America I was born and grew up in, in fact it’s not that America today and can only get worse because of a bloated government worker base and a career welfare base which the majority want to keep big government Daddy,of which both groups depend on the private sector work force for their livelihood. I know some in both groups and I ask them where will your pay come from when people like me are gone and there isn’t anyone to take from, I never get a response from those with a brain because they know the answer. The rest probably think it’s a stash, the one Obama has that he freely gives from(}:-)

          151. Patriot068 says

            DITTO,! OUR country has been in a decline sense the late 40s early 50s then the 60s came and the dope smoking hippies instilled in their kids warped ideas and it’s multi generational now unfortunatly.look at our Grandfather’s who fought WW2, FF to todsy and they should have let the Germans and Japanese won back then, also the cold war!:Reagan should have let the Soviet Union win that one sense the Left wants to have their lives dictated by their party and elect a known socialist and their other front runner Billary, should be locked away because of her BS and the FBI bringing charges against her! She should be DISQUALIFIED PERIOD!!

          152. Merle Dickey says

            Too many want to live off the backs of a few . The millenniums will be the destruction of this country They want to go to college to play and then suck off those who work . They won’t fight if we get attacked , Most have said so . A mostly worthless generation.

          153. Merle Dickey says

            And all the illegal voting !!

          154. Ed Shick says

            I think we have been had on Voter Fraud and if some one in our States or Federal government will not do some thing to stop it we are going down the Tube ,We have had 2 terms of a Communist Spy and his cabinet destroying America ,Lets make Changes Quickly , but we have never made an attempt at taking a traitor out of the White House !

          155. Apolloone says

            Happy New Year Ed. See my reply to Merle(]:-)

          156. Apolloone says

            The most important thing is who counts the votes, I read an article about a year ago where a investigative journalist looked into a company that did the counting for a lot of states, according to the article this investigator said it would probably be easier to see the books of a Mafia Godfather than be able to investigate this company. In other words he didn’t get any where with his investigation. I also heard radio talk show host Michael Savage say that a company in Spain did much of the counting. Does anyone know anything on this that can be proven or factual, our votes shouldn’t be counted in secret, if they are then we don’t have a say in the elections, it’s all for show.

          157. Reality Check says

            “I also heard radio talk show host Michael Savage say that a company in Spain did much of the counting”

            IF it comes out of Savages mouth its A LIE.

            “FACT: Scytl is a Spain-based business that specializes in “electoral security technology” and electronic voting applications. Its cryptographic research initially was funded by the Spanish government’s Ministry of Science and Technology and later was spun off as a private-sector e-voting venture.

            FACT: In January 2012, Scytl acquired U.S.-based SOE Software. SOE writes “election management” programs that assist officials with everything from “Internet voting to election night reporting and online poll worker training.”

            FICTION: According to alarmists, Scytl’s acquisition of SOE amounts to a complete takeover of America’s election system. No, not really. While SOE boasts of a presence “with 900 jurisdictions as customers in 26 states,” there is no single contract that the federal government has entered into, or could, with Scytl to count the 2012 presidential election votes. Much of the work Scytl/SOE analysts do is number-crunching and graphics software work afterlocal and state officials have done the vote-counting.

            Scytl does have a contract with the feds to use its technology to help overseas and military voters participate in elections. In 2009, the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act mandated that U.S. jurisdictions allow uniformed and overseas citizens to receive and track their ballots electronically. Scytl’s online ballot program was used in 14 states during the 2010 midterms.

            Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/05/09/scytl_voter_fraud_facts_and_fiction_114085.html#ixzz3wrzhAjKW
            Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

          158. Merle Dickey says

            Folks this guy is a troll . He will accuse you of lying and working for the ISIS . LOL And I don’t believe I have ever listened to Micheal Savage .

          159. Eleanor Cummings says

            What a crock of BS!! No, not beautiful sunshine. I know a guy who could quote fake “statistics” like you. He went to Shreveport, LA. where the authorities took exception to some of his “statistics”. So far he’s held them off in the courts for 2 years, but in March he’ll know his fate. Careful how you throw figures about, Reality Check. They just might trip you up!!

          160. Reality Check says

            we NEED paper ballots and humans counting BUT the GOP fight that at every turn.
            Gee, I wonder WHY?

          161. Merle Dickey says

            And where did you get that information ?

          162. Eleanor Cummings says

            It’s the liberal democrats and the GOP RIN’OS fighting it. Harder for them to cheat so they can keep on riding the gravy trains they’re on.

          163. Merle Dickey says

            I heard they were counted in Spain on machines that were made by a company George Soros owns !!

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          165. Merle Dickey says

            Stop sending this to my account !!!!!!!

            merle
            mishkamice@aol.com

          166. Eleanor Cummings says

            I’ll try to find that article again and repost it. I had it on Facebook awhile back.

          167. Merle Dickey says

            Thank you Eleanor

          168. Eleanor Cummings says

            Obama sold vote count to company in Spain Linked to Soros

            Submitted by Integrity on Mon, 04/09/2012 – 15:13
            Ron Paul 2012

            Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election

            Outsourcing US voting system: To Foreign Company

            Outsourcing US voting system: To Foreign Company – YouTube <— VIDEO

            OBAMA SOLD VOTE COUNT TO SPAIN COMPANY WITH NO POSSIBLE WAY TO TRACK LOCAL PRECINCTS (SCYTL)?

            THERE IS NO POINT DISCUSSING WHO WILL WIN, THE VOTE IS RIGGED BEYOND ALL HOPE

            OBAMA SOLD VOTE COUNTING TO FOREIGN COMPANY SCYTL

            NO WAY TO TRACK LOCAL LEVEL PRECINCT VOTING, IT WILL BE A TOTAL DISCONNECT, NO WAY TO BACK CHECK ANY US VOTES

            SOE WAS ACQUIRED BY SCYTL IN SPAIN

            NO AMERICANS ARE ON THE BOARD

            WHO OWNS SCYTL?

            SOCIALISTS FROM SPAIN AND EUROPE

            WHO PERMITTED THIS?

            CONGRESS? GOP? NO INVESTIGATION BY FEC!!

            AMERICANS ARE IN THE DARK.

            THEIR VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED AT ALL. THAT IS WHY HE TOLD MEDVEDEV "AFTER MY ELECTION"–IT'S TOTALLY RIGGED

            CEO SCYTL WAS CEO OF GLOBALNET, A MAJOR MULTIMILLION CONTRIBUTOR TO OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN IN 2008

            Obama sold vote count to company in Spain Linked to Soros | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Ron Paul 2012

          169. Reality Check says

            so here is how the fairy tale goes.

            “During the May 14 edition of the FoxNews.com programCampaign Insiders, Doug Schoen read co-host Pat Caddell a viewer question asking if “there was any truth to the report that a Spanish company doing the vote count — counting for the U.S. national election, has been engaged to do that and that it is a Soros-controlled.”

            After admitting that he hasn’t “done enough work on it,” Caddell still claimed Soros was “an investor in it” and that “this raises a problem”

            Co-host John LeBoutillier, a conspiracy theorist and former Republican congressman, later expanded on the conspiracy, stating: “I think in this charge, was that it’s a Spanish company that Soros owns a big share of, has bought this thing called SOE, which is involved in the vote counting in Florida.” LeBoutillier added that “if there’s any chance that’s true” the Florida government should investigate — a point Caddell agreed with.

            AND THEN THERE IS THE REALITY.

            “George Soros has nothing to do with Scytl,” said Michelle Shafer, director of communications & government affairs at Scytl USA & SOE Software, in an email to Media Matters.

            “There is absolutely no relationship there. He is not an owner of or investor in Scytl, nor does he have anything to do with SOE Software, a Tampa, Florida based provider of election technology solutions, purchased by Scytl earlier this year. I am not sure where this rumor started but it is completely false and without merit.”

            Scytl is a Spanish-based company that has contracts with governments here and abroad. The company acquiredFlorida-based SOE Software earlier this year. An information sheet provided by Scytl states that “SOE Software has been working in 25 states to provide election management tools that include online pollworker training and election night reporting solutions to over 900 state and local election jurisdictions. Neither Scytl nor SOE Software currently provide election tabulation products, polling place voting equipment or Internet voting solutions in the United States.”

            The Soros-voting machines conspiracy has been circulating on the internet and in chain e-mails for the past few months. The chatter was enough for conservative columnist Michelle Malkin to devote a column shooting down the conspiracy about Soros and Scytl, imploring conservatives to stop “worrying about manufactured scares”

            http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/05/18/fox-pushes-false-soros-vote-rigging-conspiracy/186617

          170. Reality Check says

            ya that would be another of those lies that your Daily ledger.

            so here is how the fairy tale goes.

            “During the May 14 edition of the FoxNews.com programCampaign Insiders, Doug Schoen read co-host Pat Caddell a viewer question asking if “there was any truth to the report that a Spanish company doing the vote count — counting for the U.S. national election, has been engaged to do that and that it is a Soros-controlled.”

            After admitting that he hasn’t “done enough work on it,” Caddell still claimed Soros was “an investor in it” and that “this raises a problem”

            Co-host John LeBoutillier, a conspiracy theorist and former Republican congressman, later expanded on the conspiracy, stating: “I think in this charge, was that it’s a Spanish company that Soros owns a big share of, has bought this thing called SOE, which is involved in the vote counting in Florida.” LeBoutillier added that “if there’s any chance that’s true” the Florida government should investigate — a point Caddell agreed with.

            AND THEN THERE IS THE REALITY.

            “George Soros has nothing to do with Scytl,” said Michelle Shafer, director of communications & government affairs at Scytl USA & SOE Software, in an email to Media Matters.

            “There is absolutely no relationship there. He is not an owner of or investor in Scytl, nor does he have anything to do with SOE Software, a Tampa, Florida based provider of election technology solutions, purchased by Scytl earlier this year. I am not sure where this rumor started but it is completely false and without merit.”

            Scytl is a Spanish-based company that has contracts with governments here and abroad. The company acquiredFlorida-based SOE Software earlier this year. An information sheet provided by Scytl states that “SOE Software has been working in 25 states to provide election management tools that include online pollworker training and election night reporting solutions to over 900 state and local election jurisdictions. Neither Scytl nor SOE Software currently provide election tabulation products, polling place voting equipment or Internet voting solutions in the United States.”

            The Soros-voting machines conspiracy has been circulating on the internet and in chain e-mails for the past few months. The chatter was enough for conservative columnist Michelle Malkin to devote a column shooting down the conspiracy about Soros and Scytl, imploring conservatives to stop “worrying about manufactured scares”

            http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/05/18/fox-pushes-false-soros-vote-rigging-conspiracy/186617

            so you see Merle, your “refreshing” radio station has ONE GOAL.
            Controlling Merle.

            they do that by making you made at someone while they steal America.

            seems to be working.

          171. Eleanor Cummings says

            How right you are!! And a lot of votes from our overseas military NEVER GOT COUNTED!!

          172. Ribert Koonce says

            Not sure, but I do know that all the voting machines have been supplied by George Soros, that should say plenty enough to know it was fixed. Then you also have to consider all those folks that were resurrected just in time to vote. This time around, all we have to worry about are all the newly registered illegal votes Obama is signing up.

          173. Reality Check says

            ALL the illegal voting that NO ONE has ever proved and has only generated 6 cases in the courts in the past 30 years?

            THAT illegal voting?

            that is about as real as Obama is a Muslim.

            only the retarded believe something SO outlandish.

            got any proof Merle the Dim?

          174. mac12sam12 says

            He never says anything positive about Christianity, and praises Islam. YouTube “Obama admits he’s a Muslim.” Trust me Chief, he rolls out the prayer rug in the Oval Office.

          175. Merle Dickey says

            I don’t know that I would be throwing the retarded word around little boy . Are you still up ?? As you can see folks he is a typical liberal . Can’t converse just insult . Immature I would say .

          176. Reality Check says

            ARE YOU RETARDED. Merle?

            you act like a mentally challenged human.
            you say the most stupid shit.
            you are either brainwashed or have a very low intellect.

          177. pineapple says

            “that is about as real as Obama is a Muslim.”

            Just
            Sharing Some Historical Facts.
            To: Obama:
            It
            was you who told an Islamic dinner – “I am one of you.”
            It
            was you who on ABC News referenced – “My Muslim faith.”
            It
            was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build
            foreign mosques.
            It
            was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict -“I will stand with the
            Muslims.”
            It
            was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a
            Muslim.”
            It
            was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi king.
            It
            was you who sat for 20 yrs in a Liberation
            Theology Church
            condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
            It
            was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us
            have to pay.
            It
            was you who purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator” – from
            your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.
            It
            was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon On The Mount while
            repeatedly referring to the ‘HOLY’ Quran.
            It
            was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.
            It
            was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the
            building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of
            the World Trade Center.
            It
            was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to
            host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the WH.
            It
            was you who ordered both Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges
            of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast,
            you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited adjust their decor.
            It
            was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.
            It
            was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.
            It
            was you who said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to
            Muslim communities.
            It
            was you who as an Illinois Senator were the ONLY individual who would speak in
            favor of infanticide.
            It
            was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the
            WH, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.
            It
            was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.
            It
            was you who refused to condemn the Ft.
            Hood killer as an Islamic
            terrorist.
            It
            is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women
            throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of
            hypothetical human-rights abuses.
            It
            was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of
            radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that
            is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
            It
            was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
            It
            was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new
            commemorative stamp.
            It
            was you who directed our UK
            Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim
            community.
            It
            was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to
            overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.
            It
            was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar
            schools across our country.
            It
            is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during
            Ramadam.
            It
            is you who departs for Hawaii
            over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating
            in seasonal WH religious events.
            It
            was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim
            Brotherhood to depose Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s strongest ally
            in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led
            slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
            It
            Was you who attended school in Indonesia where your school records listed your religion as “Islam”.
            It
            Was you who, while living in Indonesia, attended the Mosque with your stepfather on Fridays.

            It
            was you who appointed s your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett , who is a member
            of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
            It was you who allowed Valerie Jarrett, (born in Iran) to negotiate a secret treaty with Iran that would allow them to continue developing nuclear weapons without fear of further sanctions by the U.S.
            It
            was you who freed five Muslim terrorists from GITMO without giving Congress a
            thirty day notice as required by a law that YOU signed.
            It
            Was you who brought hordes of Muslim refugees to the U.S. to be supported by taxpayers, while ignoring Christian refugees who were being slaughtered by Muslims.

            It was you who approved the change in the U.S. military dress code to allow men to grow beards and to wear Turbans
            Do
            we really need to go on?
            Barack,
            you may be a lot of things; but, for certainty, you are no Christian.
            Obama,
            who refers to himself as: “A man of Africa”,
            is precisely the type of ‘divided loyalties” individual that our Founders
            attempted to prohibit from ascendancy to the presidency when they constructed
            our Constitution.

          178. Eleanor Cummings says

            Out of his own mouth, O Greatly Uninformed Reality Check (LOL)

            Mike Gallagher, an American talk-radio host and Conservative political commentator read this live on his program. He is the host of The Mike Gallagher Show, heard on over 400 radio stations daily.

            Many listeners have asked about the, “Obama: It Was You” essay that someone sent me. Here it is:

            * It was you who did not go to France to show solidarity against the Muslim terrorists, after their deadly anti-Christian and Jewish massacre there
            * It was you who spoke these words at one of the many Muslim dinners you’ve attended: “I am one of you.”
            * It was you who on ABC News referenced – “My Muslim faith.”
            * It was you who gave $100 million of STIMULUS taxpayer funds, to re-build foreign Muslim Mosques.
            * It was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict with Muslims: “I will ALWAYS stand with the Muslims.”
            * It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a Muslim.”
            * It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.
            * It was you who sat for 20 years in the congregation of Reverend Wright’s Social Just-Us, Liberation Theology Church, constantly condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.
            * It was you who exempted Muslims in America from ALL penalties under Obamacare
            – that the rest of us have to pay.
            * It was you who purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator” – from your recitation of one of our ‘founding documents’ : The Declaration Of Independence.
            * It was you who mocked the Christian Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon On The Mount,
            while constantly referring to your love for the Islamic Quran.
            * It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America
            and our greatest ally there – Israel.
            * It was you who instantly threw the support of your entire administration behind the
            building of a Ground Zero Victory Islamic Mosque, to overlook the hallowed ground 911 crater, of the former World Trade Center.
            * It was you who refused to host the annual traditional National Prayer Breakfast at the WH,
            but hastened to host the first Islamic “call to prayer” there.
            * It was you who ordered Georgetown University and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ, BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but you have NEVER requested Islamic Mosques you visited, adjust their decorum likewise.
            * It was you who appointed anti-Christian, Muslim Brotherhood fanatics to your WH, Czar Corps.
            * It was you who appointed known radical Muslim Brotherhood members, as advisors to Homeland Security.
            * It was you who said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to Muslim communities.
            * It was you as an Illinois Senator – the ONLY leftist politician who favored the medical procedure of infanticide: the murdering of babies – born ALIVE.
            * It was you who was the first US President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the WH Oval office, but went out of your way to hang photos of Chairman Mao and other controversial world dictators on the WH Christmas tree.
            * It was you who stopped ALL military tribunals of Islamic terrorists captured on the battlefield, and sent to the US Navy Base at Guantanamo, Cuba .
            * It was you who refused to condemn the Islamic Ft. Hood killer, as an Islamic terrorist attack, which you preferred to call : “Work Place Violence” instead.
            * It is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the history of Muslim culture, but submitted the state of Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.
            * It was you who when queried in India, refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadi’s, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu, and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.
            * It was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.
            * It was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.
            * It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim community.
            * It was you who embraced fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to overthrow Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.
            * It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.
            * It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of gold jewelry during Ramadan.
            * It is you who always departs for Hawaii over the Christmas holiday season, so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.
            * It was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood, to depose Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s strongest ally in North Africa; but remained mute in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.
            * It was you who appointed your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, an Iranian, who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood

          179. glenn398 says

            So the fact that in several Philly districts there were no republican votes or the fact that there were more votes than registered voters doesn’t make a difference to you.

          180. Reality Check says

            well does the fact that those districts vote that way in 2000 and 2004 mean anything?

          181. glenn398 says

            Think anyone with a brain it would. When you have more votes than registered voters would say a lot of criminal activity going on plus not one republican vote?

          182. Reality Check says

            “When you have more votes than registered voters”

            WELL YOU DON’T, fool.

            once you provide a district I will provide the FACTS that prove you cons are LYING.

            so tell me a district and I will then embarrass you

          183. glenn398 says

            Wood country in 59 districts Obama won 108% of the vote. 66 wards saw no republican votes. St Lucie Cty. Florida had registered voters of 175574 and reordered 247713 votes. Look it up yourself if you’re not too lazy.

          184. Reality Check says

            “Wood country in 59 districts”

            could be missing a city and state.

          185. Reality Check says

            well I found it for you silly con.
            some light reading for the low info.

            Many parts of Philadelphia and other big cities simply lack Republican voters, a fact of campaigning that has been true since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal, Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University, said.

            Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the [28th] ward’s third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.

            Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others
            didn’t answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say
            a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none
            of the neighbors across the street knew him.

            James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican
            in city data. But he said he’s a Democrat and voted for Obama because he
            thinks the president will help the middle class.

            A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when
            told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. “I got to
            check on that,” said Sapp, who voted for Obama.

            Eighteen Republicans reportedly live in the nearby 15th Division,
            according to city registration records. The 15th has the distinction of
            pitching two straight Republican shutouts — zero votes for McCain in
            2008, zero for Romney. Oh, and 13 other city divisions did the same thing in 2008 and 2012.

            Three of the 15th’s registered Republicans were listed as living in the
            same apartment, but the tenant there said he had never heard of them.
            The addresses of several others could not be found.

            On West Albert Street, Duke Dunston says he knows he’s a registered Republican, but he’s never voted for one.

          186. glenn398 says

            So you are trying to tell me in all these wards only democrats live. Thought at least there would be some blacks that weren’t on the government dole that would vote republican

          187. Reality Check says

            NO,
            THEY are telling you that.
            People who LOOKED INTO IT, are telling you that.

          188. glenn398 says

            Yes just like the people looking into Hillary’s actions, criminals investigating criminals. Since democrats are the great welfare kings can accept why blacks vote over 90% for them.

          189. Reality Check says

            Glen seems to be IGNORING the fact that the liberal linked to STATE election Documents and YOU flapped your gums.

          190. Reality Check says

            “blacks vote over 90% for them.”
            maybe the right should have better ideas.

            Denying Climate change makes the right look like idiots.

            people tend to not vote for idiots.

          191. glenn398 says

            Maybe you think it is a better idea to reward people to sit on their ass most of their life pumping out more kids but I don’t and neither does right. We now have more on the government dole then working so democratic plans working to the fullest.

          192. Reality Check says

            “Maybe you think it is a better idea to reward people to sit on their ass most of their life pumping out more kid”

            Right wing fairy tale. (big surprise coming from Glen)

            you DO KNOW that there is a LIFE TIME 5 years you can get welfare, right fool?

          193. glenn398 says

            Welfare itself is just one small part of the system as there are 122 programs in total. The average rent subsidy alone is higher then the average SS, free medical, food stamps, no taxes, no need for work clothes, transportation for work, child care expense, free cell phone and soon to come free internet. I could go on but to you it would make no difference.

          194. Reality Check says

            more Flapping Gums.
            so far you have done nothing but LIE

          195. glenn398 says

            So be it you flap yours and I’ll flap mine

          196. Reality Check says

            well silly con, there is a big difference.
            I POST LINKS, you Flap your Gums

          197. glenn398 says

            Yes you pick your posts and ignore any others.

          198. Reality Check says

            Indeed, I pick sources that are REPUTABLE.
            awards for journalism etc.

            you pick sources that a guy in his basement made that fit your agenda.

          199. glenn398 says

            Since there were several different sources guess your one is the only possible truth.

          200. Reality Check says

            there is only one set of facts Glen.

            But for some reason right wing blogs seem to always be missing a key paragraph, or have out out of context material.

            the NY Times tends to not be disingenuous like that.

          201. glenn398 says

            To you maybe, especially if they agree with you. Anything can be put up as fact but I have to look at who is making up those so called facts. Ever since I can remember the NY times was always a left leaning paper.

          202. Reality Check says

            I hate to break it to you, but there are only ONE set of facts.
            the rest would be OPINIONS.

            take that photo of Obama making the peace sign the other day.

            IN REALITY he was saying we are waiting for TWO more for this photo.

            THAT would be what is wrong with the right wing media.

            THEY LIE.

          203. glenn398 says

            Don’t know where that came from as I never mentioned anything about it.

          204. Reality Check says

            It seems, reality is over your pay grade Glenn

          205. glenn398 says

            You may be right even though am in a financial position many would love to be in so it just goes to show even stupid people like me can do it.

          206. Reality Check says

            aren’t you the one who claimed the Dems fudged the Florida state election?
            and posted LIES about voting that I debunked?

            you have no credibility.

          207. glenn398 says

            So you think putting the black panthers in charge was a honest thing to do even though they were criminals and murders. Guess I know where you are coming from.

          208. Reality Check says

            Ok fool.
            you see the right JUST LIE and know that the low info right will not check anything.
            kind of like they lie about YOU electing the candidate.

            “A precinct-by-precinct
            breakdown of the official voting results from Wood County, Ohio, for
            the 2012 election shows that Barack Obama received nowhere close to 100%
            of the votes cast in any of that county’s 97 precincts. The highest percentage he achieved in any one precinct was 75.5%.

            Oh, and the link is to the OFFICIAL STATE RECORDS., so…..

            http://www.co.wood.oh.us/BOE/Election_Results/2012/Nov%206%202012%20Prect%20Breakdown%20Official.pdf

          209. glenn398 says

            You tell me why there is a huge difference between this and what can be googled and back when Johnson was elected to the senate with votes from the grave the official count was in his favor also.

          210. Reality Check says

            “You tell me why there is a huge difference between this and what can be googled”
            Duh,
            the BIG difference is MY info is backed up by State documents and YOUR info is from a right wing blog with NO SOURCE who’s job is to LIE to you.

          211. glenn398 says

            Yes the only one’s telling the truth is your democratic run states that wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face.

          212. Reality Check says

            So that is your excuse for LYING?

            “Yes the only one’s telling the truth is your democratic run states”

            so FLORIDA is a Dem state?

            Glen’s LIES come unraveled.

          213. glenn398 says

            What would it gain me to be lying about anything because if there is something to be gained by it let me know.

          214. Reality Check says

            “What would it gain me to be lying about”

            your lying is to further the Right Wing Agenda.
            duh

            ONE of your examples was from Florida, a red state during THAT election.

          215. glenn398 says

            Yes am sure my statements are going to change the world and Florida is a mixed bag as far as being red or blue.

          216. Reality Check says

            “Johnson was elected to the senate with votes from the grave the official count was in his favor also.”

            lets review Glen.
            I just proved everything you posted about illegal voting, was wrong and now I am supposed to believe your flapping gums?

          217. glenn398 says

            Well I lived thru those times and knew what went on and the republicans said they knew about the votes from the grave but didn’t want to raise a stink.

          218. Reality Check says

            “Well I lived thru those times and knew what went on and the republicans
            said they knew about the votes from the grave but didn’t want to raise a
            stink.”

            YOU would be the guy who provided FALSE (Lies) election numbers.
            so now I am supposed to believe you flapping gums?

          219. Reality Check says

            ok more embarrassing info for Glen.
            I told if you gave me the names it would be bad for you and your ILK.

            “In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

            This statement demonstrates a misunderstanding between the difference in
            “number of votes” cast and “number of cards” cast. The official election results from St. Lucie
            County, Florida, show, a total of 123,301 votes were cast for the
            office of President of the United States, but a total of 247,383 cards were cast because St. Lucie County used a two-page ballot (i.e., a ballot consisting of two cards), so every voter who returned both pages of his ballot cast two cards.

            As the web site (http://www.slcelections.com/ )
            of that county’s elections board explains:

            “Turnout percentages will show over 100% due to a two page ballot. The tabulation system (GEMS)
            provides voter turnout as equal to the total cards cast in the election
            divided by the number of registered voters. Also note that some voters chose not to return by mail the second card.”

            SO WORD GAMES.

            is that what the conservatives are all about? word games?

          220. glenn398 says

            No I think you are better at it than anyone else could be and the news even reported the crap going one during elections especially the fact the black panthers were in charge of some and not allowing all to vote

          221. Reality Check says

            “especially the fact the black panthers were in charge of some and not allowing all to vote”

            seriously Glen?
            you going to post that fairy tale and pretend you have a clue?

            2 guys stood in front of a polling station in a BLACK neighborhood.
            not “IN CHARGE”, Silly Glen.
            not even INSIDE, lying Glen.
            Geez, you cons just pull shit out of your ass and pretend it’s a fact.

            you are an embarrassment to America, calling yourself a “patriot”.
            get informed first.
            stop spreading shit.

          222. Reality Check says

            you are an embarrassment to the country spreading this shit like you have a clue.

          223. glenn398 says

            Guess everyone is wrong but you

          224. Reality Check says

            at this point Glen, just YOU.

            wackadoodle cons tend to be shallow when it come to FACTS.

          225. Reality Check says

            “or the fact that there were more votes than registered voters doesn’t make a difference to you”

            ya, that is an outright lie put forward by the disingenuous right.

            all debunked.
            give me a district, I will show you the lie.

          226. glenn398 says

            From my dealings with you facts don’t mean anything as long as it disagrees with your liberal left leanings.

          227. Reality Check says

            well FIRST you would have to post ONE.

          228. Eleanor Cummings says

            While discussing on Newsmax a conversation I overheard while living in Tennessee (in which a woman was boasting how she got to vote 3 times because she worked at the polls (her man got in) this was forwarded to me. I received the following comment:
            “Rigged polls?? I believe we need look no further than at the S.E.I.U.! That union has had (for several years) the job of setting up and maintaining most of the voting machines in our country. They are one of the largest donors to the democratic party. I have learned that one who knows computers well would have to do very little to alter a vote.—just a thought”
            SO – Hillary Clinton picked up another labor endorsement from the Service Employees International Union (S.E.I.U.! ) Tuesday, a critical potential source of labor support. S.E.I.U.! is one of the nation’s largest unions with 2 million members in a wide range of industries, from home healthcare to janitors to security guards, (and what the media has neglected to mention, they also set up and maintain most of the voting machines in our country). It’s also one of the most politically involved unions, spending almost $24 million in the 2014 midterm election alone.
            I’m wondering, who’s going to be monitoring the poll for THIS election??? Does this mean the democrats are going to “win” this election, too? With fraud and corruption, bought votes, and with intimidation at the polling places like in past elections, what makes you think your vote will go to your candidate of choice? Computer settings inside can be easily changed. Ask any reputable computer technician.

          229. Emma says

            he was not elected, he was installed.

          230. glenn398 says

            You’re right he didn’t win the election as they didn’t count the military vote and you have Philly districts where not a single vote was cast for a republican plus the black panthers were in charge of some voting polls. Then again you never hear a word from the republicans challenging any of this so as long as they continue with their gutless ways the democrats will win.

          231. Reality Check says

            there are a 10’s of millions who will vote for her and even more who will vote for Bernie.

            the GOP are going to loose big time on the whole Climate change denial thing.
            the young people are not going to stand for that shit.

          232. Christopher Kirby says

            Reality check you are definitely out of reality to not see the crimes Obama has committed against our country and you obviously are not a Patriot in any way. You are a communist.

          233. Reality Check says

            The reason I see NO crimes is because the has NOT committed any.

            Right wing rumor and conspiracy nonsense do not constitute reality.

            share with me his crimes since you have the magic glasses on.

            I am calling you a liar.
            I don’t allow people to lie about MY country unchallenged.
            there is only one patriot in this conversation, the one not lying.

            so PROVE you don’t work for ISIS.

          234. Patriot068 says

            Good and if they are your either be going to be paying taxes at 90% according to bernie!: which means for every dollar you make you keep 10 cents he gets 90. As for Villar after we’re stuck in a quagmire of another ME war or a Nuke us set off and you and your family are either killed outright, dying or radiation sickness , or a black outline on a wall and she states “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW??
            SO that’s what you and your 10s of milions of morons want to Elect huh?? BERNIE is so old he will probl die in office in his 1st term and Hilary shouldn’t be allowed to run seeing how the FBI is inditing h er on her e-mail debacle. Hmm mm now all our enemies will know our secrets huh?? Really FUCKING STOOPID!! And BRAIN DEAD

          235. glenn398 says

            Yes there are those millions but no one stated there weren’t millions of idiots in this country.

          236. Rick Rogers says

            She has my vote and will against any of the Clowns on the GOP Stage

          237. Emma says

            Why?
            Lying murderesses your cup of tea?
            What on Gods’good green earth would process any reasonably intelligent person to want this criminal, this traitor, as POTUS ??!!

          238. Rick Rogers says

            Most exprienced of the Group. And because I want a Green Earth left for my kids. Something that would not happen if any of the GOP Clowns win. And the other reason because most of the people on that this Website DON”T want her elected. That makes her a sure fire vote for me.

          239. Eleanor Cummings says

            Much to my sorrow I know one.

          240. Emma says

            I am truly sorry Eleanor.
            I really am.
            I have a grand daughter who thinks barry boy is just wonderful. Thank GOD there is time to save her..She is not quite 16.

          241. Eleanor Cummings says

            Yes, you can let her watch some videos, if she will, but one 38 old thinks he knows it all. We have a few months left to show him the evidence. He believes the republicans and Bush are to blame for everything, and that they’re trying to ruin Killery’s reputation. It’s an uphill battle. Let’s pray they both recognize the truth. At least your granddaughter can’t vote yet. Good luck and God bless you.

          242. Emma says

            They don’t understand that the squatter in the WH has had 7 years to repair any damage done back then.
            obama has Deliberately divided this Nation on every level & still doing so.
            We need Mr. Trump.
            It is time to Heal Our America.
            Best of luck &may God Bless you.

          243. Ribert Koonce says

            i THINK THE CORRECT TERM IS SUCCUBUS. Not even sure Harpy would be proper

          244. Emma says

            Those tears of obarry boy?
            Dipped his fingers in onion juice before he runbed his eyes.

          245. glenn398 says

            Probably thinking about how much time he is missing on the golf course.

          246. Eleanor Cummings says

            In the video.

          247. Eleanor Cummings says

            Yes, I saw the video of him doing it, also. At the time they couldn’t say if I was Vicks or onion juice, but Vick’s would leave a shiny mark whereas onion juice wouldn’t! Nasty, tricky creature, isn’t he?

          248. Merle Dickey says

            Women better wise up . Hillary is a cold bitch that just wants to be the first woman president . she could care less about the people and country . She and Bill both belong to the Builderburg group which talks about royalty and serfs and extermination !!!Goggle it

          249. glenn398 says

            Guess we will see as a lot thought it was time for a black, plus some thought if we elected a black it would show we weren’t prejudiced. Now I hear a lot of talk about it is time for a woman to be president.

          250. Emma says

            Please!God!NOOOOOOO

          251. glenn398 says

            With the republican party infighting I sure wouldn’t rule it out as it seems like they would rather destroy itself rather then back Trump if he is the winner.

          252. Emma says

            I will vote TRUMP if I have to write him in!
            This isn’t about “party”, it is about a Sovereign America .
            This time We The People WILL BE HEARD!

          253. glenn398 says

            Have no problem with Trump either but the republican party is doing so much in fighting among themselves they are destroying the party. You don’t see the democrats doing this, they back what ever rat gets to the front of the room

          254. Merle Dickey says

            And they will see it will only get worse if it happens !!

          255. glenn398 says

            There’s very little left to destroy in this country even today. We are overrun with illegals plus the huge amount being brought in. We are close to being a third world country.

          256. Merle Dickey says

            I think that is the whole plan. He said when he was elected that we ( citizens) had too much !! Our mothers and fathers and grandparents worked very hard to give their children a good life . It is not our fault his mother was a slut who like to sleep with Muslims . And I would say he and his ugly wife have a pretty good life taking expensive vacations 2 or 3 tmes a year and they take family and friends on our dollars !!!!They throw out Bush took more vacation days but he went to the Ranch in Texas and it was set up so he do anything from there. He was still working

          257. glenn398 says

            Not only that but other presidents used Camp David which is owned by the government and cost a fraction of what his vacations does. Of course we have too much as the democrat theory is tax the working to death to bribe the democratic welfare hoards.

          258. Patriot068 says

            Better keep all the Interns away from bill!! Also hillary is bringing more of the enemy with her Huma, Weiner who’s folks have known and vetted ties to the Muslim brotherhood so here is another insider allowing secrets out!

          259. Merle Dickey says

            Oh muslims will have a good life if she gets in

          260. Merle Dickey says

            good point

          261. 4Pip says

            Those were fake,this is the same person that demanded babies be left to die even if they survived an abortion attempt.We just had more of our troops getting killed by his buddies and there were no tears or even a mention of them.

          262. glenn398 says

            Everything about Obama is fake, problem is too many buy the fake thing as he truly cares.

          263. Reality Check says

            “Everything about Obama is fake”

            LIKE?

          264. glenn398 says

            Wouldn’t know where to start but the point was made about him getting tears in his eye.

          265. Reality Check says

            the point made by the rabid right who would complain that he should have been faster if he cured cancer.

            liberals have “feelings”.
            you are just brainwashed drones, so no emotion that is real.

            got any more?

          266. glenn398 says

            He didn’t show up or shed any tears when the shooting actually accrued just when it was convenient for his gun bit.

          267. Eleanor Cummings says

            I wonder how Reality Check will respond to the foot long list I posted to him?

          268. glenn398 says

            He really won’t address it just like most liberals brush off facts and just go another direction. Did you Know Obama has a 19 year old son, I sure didn’t as you never saw anything in any papers or T.V news about it.

          269. Eleanor Cummings says

            He should realize his fake crocodile tears fuel the people’s anger against him even more for his hypocritical duplicity!! Here is what we, the people think about his” tears”!!!
            Where were the tears during beheadings of innocent people (including children)? How’s about the executed christians and journalists?
            Where were the tears as terrorist gun down innocent people? How’s about the victims killed by his illegal emigrants?
            Where were the tears when the Muslims slaughtered people who were Christians and other religions?
            Where were the tears illegals gun down a young lady walking with her dad?
            Where were the tears as illegal aliens gun down or run down American citizens?
            Where were the tears when our soldiers come home in coffins, or when vets go hungry? How’s about our wounded veterans? We see no tears for vets dying in the streets for lack of health care and housing.
            Where were the tears during Fergusan, Boston, Baltimore, Chicago, San Bernardino, etc, all caused by his, Michelle’s, Sharpton’s, etc, race baiting and war mongering?? But he has tears for his inability to get gun control so that we can’t defend ourselves and our families.

            Where were the tears when the Military was attacked in Tennessee?
            Where were the tears when the Navy Seals helicopter was shot and killed the Seal Team?
            Where were the tears when the 4 brave Americans Died in Benghazi?
            Where are his tears for all the babies murdered by Planned Parenthood, most of them black? If OBAMA was serious about kids, he would outlaw the abortions of Planned Parenthood. Especially after knowing the cruelty that takes place during those satanic abortions!
            Where are the tears for the women and girls being raped and tortured in every country his Muslim buddies have invaded.
            Where were the tears when folks cannot pay for Obamacare?
            Where are the tears when American folks go hungry because they do not have enough food to eat?
            …….and the list goes on, and on, and on .

            I think these “tears” now are because Americans won’t let him lead us to slaughter so Islam can take us over. He is worried that Americans are preparing for his next move and are wise to what he and Clinton have on their agenda. We, the people of America, don’t trust our president or our government- not at all. And we sure don’t trust his crocodile tears. We’re not ALL fools!

          270. Reality Check says

            Hmmmm.
            maybe he didn’t see graphic pictures of shot up children like he did of the Sandy Hook killings?

            WHY so much stupid?
            WHY so much HATRED?

          271. pineapple says

            “WHY so much stupid?
            WHY so much HATRED?”

            You need to repeat these questions while looking into a mirror.

          272. Eleanor Cummings says

            Thanks, pineapple. How’d you know what I was going to tell that uninformed idiot, Reality Check?

          273. Eleanor Cummings says

            You know, pineapple I think Einstein must have had Reality Check in mind when he said: “Intelligence has it’s limits but STUPIDITY HAS NO LIMIT!!” Oh, yes. Judging by the majority of the voters going to vote this time, I do think most Americans are FINALLY waking up!!

          274. Eleanor Cummings says

            Oooops, pineapple got it in ahead of me!!

          275. Ribert Koonce says

            Nope, they only flow when it suits his agenda, or gives him the opportunity to steal a little more of our rights. You do ralize that the Miranda Warning gives you the right to be silent? unfortunately, you don’t have the ability. As a wise man once said, education is the cure for ignorance, but not even God can fix stupid.

          276. Reality Check says

            ” or gives him the opportunity to steal a little more of our rights. ”

            so name a right that has been lost, fool of the right wing who pretends to be informed.

          277. Ribert Koonce says

            How about the right to the pursuit of happiness, with all this socialism crap, happiness is becoming a thing of the past. but then again, a mindless minion of the left wouldn’t comprehend such trivial things as happiness. Then there’s there’s the right to religious liberty, when someone can target your business for a frivolous lawsuit over a gay wedding cake, when they have the choice to go to another bakery . again, just more liberal nit pickin’ , Then how about the right to peaceably assemble?Wasn’t you left wing nut jobs that have caused disruptions at Trump events in Chicago and Arizona? then there’s the right to unrestricted travel? again , it was the left who blocked a federal highway in order to prevent people from attending that rally in Arizona. Then there’s the right to life, it hasn’t been that long ago that I lost several old military brothers in Waco. Which was a straight up DOJ,FBI,ATF,and Waco PD assassination coordinated by Eric Holder while he was Obama’s lap dog.Or how about the right to a secure border system? the right of a woman to go outside her home without the fear of being raped by someone who is only here to further Bam-Bam’s agenda to fundamentally change America?It’s you who is uninformed. or just to stupid to believe what’s staring you in the face. But hey, who am I to disagree with such an enlightened mind? You’re a liberal, you know everything right> sorry, had to stop laughing after that one.Everyday, he’s taking little bites out of the Constitution. whittling away at the freedom’s we hold dear, but you know what, I think it might be funny to see your side win the election. Then , when your buddies come to take your money, I can sit back and laugh my ass off at your dumbass. Should the hildabeast manage to get to the election in November without being in cuffs and shackles, , we’ll again have a great gut busting laugh just knowing that it was idiots like who backed a felon for president. and you call me uninformed, what a moron.

          278. glenn398 says

            So you are saying the president of the U.S. is uninformed about all these other events? Probably is as maybe on his many vacations and golf trips he doesn’t want to hear anything negative.

          279. Reality Check says

            “So you are saying the president of the U.S. is uninformed about all these other events?”

            NO,
            Did I post that in some other language?

            why so silly this morning?

            WHY go back 3 months?

            getting desperate?

          280. glenn398 says

            No that is what you posted no me.

          281. Eleanor Cummings says

            Good heavens, glenn398 I thought Reality Check was just a liberal troll, but Holy Toledo, he’s really one sick puppy, isn’t he?. He’s not only brain dead, but also DDB (Deaf, Dumb and Blind). His elevator can’t get off the first floor with all the lights out!! No sense wasting my time anymore answering him.

          282. glenn398 says

            You can’t tell what he or she is. First thought Reality Check was a male then with the writings seemed it was a black female. Then made the comment it wasn’t safe for a white to walk thru a black neighborhood and the reply was as a white woman she wouldn’t be afraid to walk thru any black neighborhood. So take your choice but I will just leave it at whatever the gender we are posting to a complete idiot.

          283. Eleanor Cummings says

            I have no patience with game players who post gobbledygook on a website. When I see the name in my email form discus, I just click delete without bothering to read it. I like to read comments from people who know more than I. That’s one way to learn.

          284. glenn398 says

            Debating liberals is impossible as no matter what you post if it doesn’t agree with them you are wrong.

          285. Eleanor Cummings says

            Why just look at all Obama has accomplished during his presidency. There are many millions of Americans who don’t even know about half of this yet. And there is so much more, but this should do as a start.

            1. Fired all top generals.
            2. Reduced the military.
            3. Contrary to advice from experts, he withdrew from Iraq and Afghanistan paving the way for ISIS.
            4. Apologized for America.
            5. Turned against Israel
            6. Created Racial problems, not seen since the 60’s.
            7. Releasing ‘bad-ass’ terrorists from gitmo.
            8. Traded terrorists for a traitor!
            9. Won’t call terrorism “Islamic Terrorism”.
            10. Seen more than once not saluting marines entering or exiting Marine One or Air Force One.
            11. Blowing up empty buildings or a pick up truck in Iraq, instead of giving ISIS hell, like our military is capable of doing.
            12. Fires defense secretaries when they disagree with him, or if they’re Christian.
            13. Refuses to close the Southern border, against expert advice.
            14. Obama Care (Affordable[?] Care Act), free college, both meant to bankrupt everyone.
            15. Instrumental in turning AMERICA against cops, creating a possible chaotic lawless society in America.

            16. No show after Paris attack, because it was geared toward being anti-Islamic Terrorism.
            17. Then there’s the other scandals that seem to get swept under the mat too:
            IRS targeting non-Democrats, DHS spying, fake birth certificate, fake social security number, the numerous Executive Orders to go around Congress, etc, etc, etc.

            18. And of course, the disgraceful Benghazi episode of rank cowardice, and then more outright LIES to the American people about it being caused by a Video.

            Plus all the tax laws that was passed in the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare. Read below and weep!
            As a brief reminder for those who forgot or for many that didn’t know. Here is what has already happened, quietly, on January 1, 2015:

            Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35%
            Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
            Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
            Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%
            Dividend tax went from 15% to 39.6%
            Estate tax went from 0% to 55%
            A 3.5% Real Estate transaction tax was added.

            What is the Government doing with all this money – besides the POTUS golfing and traveling and his family going on so many expensive vacations, which no other president before Obama did on such an extravagant and outrageous scale, using taxpayers money?
            Remember this fact:
            These taxes were all passed solely with DemonRAT votes. Not a single Republican voted for these new taxes. These taxes were all passed in the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare. Tell me just one congressmen that read it beforeg signing it!! Vote the DemocATS out of office!!!

          286. Reality Check says

            except that “normal” Americans know that every word is a LIE,

          287. Reality Check says

            “What is the Government doing with all this money – besides the POTUS
            golfing and traveling and his family going on so many expensive
            vacations, which no other president before Obama did on such an
            extravagant and outrageous scale, using taxpayers money?”

            presidents pay for their vacations fool of the right.

            you are a Walking Talking Point.

            didn’t it turn out that the GOP are the con artists the LIBERALS have been telling you they were for the past decade?

            so maybe everything else we say is also true, hmmmmm?

          288. glenn398 says

            Yea in your dreams and Obama takes 3 times the security and people with him above any other president has ever done. He is too good to go to camp David like the rest of the presidents used to as that would cost a fraction of what his do.

          289. Reality Check says

            flapping gums prove nothing.

          290. Ribert Koonce says

            Damn, if that’s not the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is. It appears that the brainwashed folks are you people on the far left. So which are you, a black wanna be Muslim? a gay ? or just a supporter of baby killing? Or perhaps an out of the closet Communist? which ever the case, it’s plainly obvious that the only one who’s been brainwashed on this thread is you, unless your Muslim buddy AKLady is hiding in the background. you’re a troll, go crawl back under your little bridge and wait for the scared little peasants to come by so you can scare them. Sorry about that they are your people. go on home. you’re boring the intelligent people here.

          291. Reality Check says

            the guy on the 3 month old thread would be the dim one.

          292. Ribert Koonce says

            Like I have any control over when a notification hits my inbox. When they come in, I read, and answer. So what if I’m a little late to the conversation. Doesn’t make my opinion ant less valuable than yours. Once again, you’re boring me. have a nice night

          293. Reality Check says

            that is very odd that your notifications take 3 months to come.

          294. Eleanor Cummings says

            Just his left eye. They’ re still trying to decide if it was onion juice or soap. Maybe aftershave? He does shave doesn’t he, despite being so feminine??

          295. glenn398 says

            Either way you have to give his credit he is one hell of an actor.

          296. Eleanor Cummings says

            I think once he was in office (an accomplished fact in other words) we wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt although I knew my initial reaction to him was right. I was cooking dinner when I heard him on TV and my stomach turned cod, literally. I went into the living room to get a look at him — and told my kids not to vote for him. The boys knew my “gut feelings” meant LISTEN UP, and didn’t vote for him . My daughter?? Eh, she had go prove that as a 50 year old, “mature lady” she could vote for him if she wanted. Today she denies she did. Yes, he is a good actor but he’ seven slipping there. He is the butt (pun intended) of a lot of jokes about him and Moocher.

          297. glenn398 says

            Problem is the jokes on us and long after he leaves the damage he has done and set up to take place in the future to me will be impossible to overcome. If you ever watch him talk off the cuff he hesitates and has to correct what he means.

          298. Eleanor Cummings says

            Sorry, Glenn, don’t watch him or listen to him. That man is pure evil, and so is that pope. And I mean – pure evil. They both chill my soul, and give me goose bumps, so I’d rather read about them, but not listen or watch them. all. His wife is a loud, masculine type person with much hatred in her but no where as evil. I know, I sound weird. My mother said it was the “fey” Irish in me. : ) This has happened to me before, but I was much younger, then.

          299. glenn398 says

            Funny I am Irish also, guess we have more in common and think we are close to the same age. If you read their college papers they state how they hate white people and especially her.

          300. pineapple says

            I will have the most transparent administration in history.
            · The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs. I
            · I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
            · The IRS is not targeting anyone.
            · It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
            · If I had a son., he would look like Travon Martin.
            · I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism”.
            · You didn’t build that!
            · I will restore trust in Government.
            · The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
            · The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
            · It’s not my red line – it is the world’s red line.
            · Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
            · We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
            · I am not spying on American citizens.
            · Obama Care will be good for America .
            · You can keep your family doctor.
            · Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
            · If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.
            · It’s just like shopping at Amazon.
            · I knew nothing about “Fast and Furious” gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
            · I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
            · I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi .
            · I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
            · And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted ( 12-05-2013 ) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
            And the biggest one of all:
            · “I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America .”

          301. Eleanor Cummings says

            Wow. You caught more of his lies than I did! Good researching, pineapple. Can I use them on my Facebook, (with or without your name, as you wish)? Think Reality Check is getting better informed yet?? : ) LOL

          302. jim_wright says

            He is a Muslim and he fakes caring about this country. He’s a racist who fakes caring about anyone other than blacks.

          303. supergun says

            They could care less about gun violence. Look at the millions of babies that they allow to be murdered.

          304. Ribert Koonce says

            Not to mention the fact that if you look at the statistics, It’s not whites killing blacks by the dozens, It’s blacks killing each other. The Ferguson riots, I didn’t see one white person burning or thieving Black businesses,it was the blacks ripping each other off to piss off the man. Too bad there aren’t any in that community. OOPS, scratch that, I did see one, a BLACK VET STANDING OUT IN FRONT OF ALL OF THEM, TELLING THEM JUST HOW STUPID THEY ALL WERE.

          305. supergun says

            They probably called him a negro.

          306. Reality Check says

            what fools vote for the end of Social Security and Medicare?

            YOU

          307. glenn398 says

            That story is as old as my grandmother. What the republicans proposed was there could be other type of investments besides SS. I agree with him as only started at the age of 31 putting aside 5% of my wages in my 401. When I retired at the age of 63 had $600,000 in that investment. SS took 7 1/2% plus the same amount from the employer. Could you imagine what my worth would have been had that 15% SS been invested in my 401. That is considering I started paying SS in 1954 and didn’t start my 401 until 1971

          308. Eleanor Cummings says

            Why aren’t they (the media) showing the video of him rubbing UNDER his eye BEFORE his speech? I had it posted on Facebook, but I’m sure by now it’s pushed down the line. Lots of speculation – Vick’s, onion juice, pepper……….

          309. glenn398 says

            Probably for the same reason they don’t show his illegitimate son he produced and what that son is really like.

          310. supergun says

            And just as many men. Look at the idiots behind him and her when they talk.

          311. glenn398 says

            Percentage wise aside from the minority vote it was the women that put him over the top. Yes there are idiots in all walks of life.

          312. supergun says

            Let me add that the White People are responsible for him in office.

          313. glenn398 says

            Won’t argue that point but there are a lot of stupid whites also.

          314. supergun says

            20% of the Whites will always vote for loonies like we currently have in office the last 7 years, or for her, or for the old white communist hippie in Vermont. Another 20% don’t have a clue what is going on. The other 10% could care less. That is pretty close to a Nation’s foundation crumbling.

          315. glenn398 says

            Think you nailed it and couldn’t disagree or add anything to it.

          316. supergun says

            UROK!

          317. ihatelibs says

            its not only possible . its a fact

          318. supergun says

            You know our Nation is in trouble when town idiots elect criminals to office. That is the down fall of a Nation.

          319. fishunter says

            I believe that anyone who votes for Hillary is a communist or welfare user.

          320. Merle Dickey says

            And I believe your right .

          321. Bill Ingram says

            Hillary hates guns and refuses to carry one or even touch one.
            OF COURSE her 5-6 body guards ALL have weapons. But that doesn’t matter.
            HER hands are clean.

          322. Reality Check says

            you really are LOW INFO.

            Maybe Bill can link me to Hillary saying she is taking your guns.

            WHY are sensible regulations so hard for the right to accept?

            we have restrictions on “free speech”.

          323. Merle Dickey says

            Then shut up idiot

          324. Bill Ingram says

            Read the The “Constitution”
            THESE RIGHTS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
            The right of free speech

            The right of free association

            The right to bear arms
            and many more.

          325. Rick Rogers says

            Your right George Bush should be arrested for the damage he caused this country and the lose of life of our men and woman in Uniform. NO man had done more damage then he.

          326. glenn398 says

            I didn’t agree with his war but Obama still has done the most damage to this country and no one even comes close to him

          327. Rick Rogers says

            Only in the mind of people that can Read Simple facts. Like Unemployment rates,

          328. ihatelibs says

            youre getting dumber with every post you make . better stop before its too late . opppps , too late

          329. Rick Rogers says

            Never can get over how many Craven Cowards that don’t have the guts to put their real name on their post. Are you afraid the people around you will find out how truly pathetic you really are. Or are you just scared you Boss will have an issue with how you reflect on his business and fire your ass? Anyone that wants to find me.. Just look on facebook I don’t hide from any Cumservative.

          330. Emma says

            From your ignorant posts, you show yourself to be a fool & a traitor .

          331. Rick Rogers says

            I gave up 8 years of my life to serve my country and defend the likes of you so you can say stupid things like You do . I have never question that at all. So go head. I am not that one that is calling a veteran a traitor which just goes to show what an ungrateful piece of white trailer trash you truly are.

          332. Emma says

            Men in my family in every generation have fought &bled for the rights &freedoms we are rapidly seeing hijacked by this current illegal occuppiing muslim marxist regime.
            My bil did 3 stints in nam, back to back.
            He has not uttered one word since he came home.
            If what you say is true, which I doubt, you would most certainly NOT. be advocating for this usurpers’ policies, nor for killary.
            If what you say is true, you are no better than bergdahl,
            &you bet your bippee I think you are a Traitor & a digrace to the uniform you claim to have worn.
            As for being trailor trash, altho I do not live in one, I do know some very fine folks who do live in modular hes, many of whom are Vets of the highest caliber.
            So…
            There you have it.
            Take your traitorous stupidity somewhere else.,
            as in any place else.
            People like you are dangerous. Stupid usually is

          333. Rick Rogers says

            So Emma answer one question for me.. You watch alot of Fox News don’t you?

          334. Emma says

            No. I do not .

          335. Rick Rogers says

            Ok find but you do realize you are basically repeating a lot of the untruths that is their bread and butter.

          336. Emma says

            I can still hear you.
            It is time for you to pull your pants up & sit down.
            Ty

          337. Reality Check says

            SO where does Emma get these cray ideas?

            certainly not from any normal news source.
            So is it Rush?
            Beck?
            Savage?

            got to be some nut job in your life feeding you this shit.

          338. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Just recently, two more Barack Obama activists were awarded with high-profile jobs in the media.Ronan Farrow, a former “special adviser” to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Joy-Ann Reid, a former press aide for Obama’s
            presidential campaign, have both earned themselves jobs on MSNBC, where
            they can parrot White House talking points directly to the American people.

            First it was NBC News anchor Brian Williams who came forward and admitted he had embellished his story of having been in a Chinook helicopter over Iraq that took enemy fire in 2003. Claiming, incredibly, that it was a mere lapse of memory, Williams acknowledged in February that it was not the helicopter he was riding in that was shot at but an aircraft in front of him.

            Now it’s chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel’s turn. Engel’s account that he and members of his crew were captured by forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad (in fact it was a Sunni militant group) and that, as they were being rescued, he saw “one of his captors lying dead.” On Wednesday, Engel and NBC published a “correction” of sorts. It is no longer Engel who saw the corpse of a captor but “one of our producers [who] says he saw and stepped over a body that was lying next to the front wheel.” Engel, as a member of the media, violated his sacred trust with his audience, for whatever reason.
            An email distributed by Ben Rhodes, senior policy makers, among them
            Susan Rice, are told to 1) blame the internet video for the violence, 2) deflect attention from greater policy failures (one presumes he’s talking about everything the Obama regime had touched), and 3) emphasize Obama’s cool and collected leadership.

            “This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless, and it is totally unacceptable.” Hillary Clinton
            Clinton had said during a March 2008 speech that while visiting Bosnia in 1996 as first lady, she remembered “landing under sniper fire.” A greeting
            ceremony had to be canceled, she said, as her party “ran with our heads
            down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”
            Videotape showed Clinton and her daughter Chelsea and their entourage
            instead striding across a tarmac with smiles and greeting a retinue of
            well-wishers.
            NBC News investigative reporter Jeff Rossen was in “intense agony” and had “meds lined up” as he filed an apparently slanderous and libelous combination of print and video stories

            Rolling Stone magazine retracted its article about a brutal gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity after the release of a report on Sunday that concluded the widely discredited piece was the result of failures at every stage of the process. The report, published by the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism , said the magazine failed to engage in “basic, even routine journalistic practice” to verify details of the ordeal that the magazine’s source, identified only as Jackie, described to the article’s author, Sabrina Rubin Erdely.

            These were not Fox News stories!

          339. Merle Dickey says

            LOL Read his post back to you . He still believes those are lies that the public is saying about his lying, cheating, traitorous party !! I think I have had enough of their childish incompetence as trolls .He looks like a muzzie so it would make sense

          340. Merle Dickey says

            Is that cray as in cray fish?

          341. Reality Check says

            so answering the question was too hard for the silly old fart?

          342. Merle Dickey says

            Emma ,he and reality check throw that one out all the time . They must have to watch it for their traitorous leader so they know what is being said . What ever it is it must frustrate them Have you watched OAN? It is a new station that the libs are trying to force off the air because it is exposing a lot of the traitorous things this administration is trying to do “).

          343. Emma says

            OAN?
            Where do I find it?
            Have never heard of it.
            I will google it.
            Big Brother knows everything. 😉
            Ty Merle
            Yes… I know what those two are. Lol

          344. Merle Dickey says

            OAN is ONE AMERICA NEWS , it is stationed in San Diego and I think right now it is only on the west coast But they have a hour called the daily ledger and the guy is really good , he talks about Obama in the true way he is . he calls him a maniac LOL .But they have news that you don’t hear on other channels including CNN. They aren’t owned by a big political group . I hope they manage to grow enough to cover the whole country . It is a plain common sense station .

          345. Reality Check says

            “But they have news that you don’t hear on other channels including CNN. ”

            NO, they MAKE UP news, and spread the right wing line like al outlets of the Oligarchy.

            well now I know where you get your “nutty” from.

            Oh, here is a tidbit from their website,

            “With Graham, one thing’s certain: Even when he’s wrong… he’s RIGHT!”

            http://www.oann.com/ledger/

            so right up front, they are telling you they make up poo.

            it’s called entertainment, not news.

          346. Reality Check says

            “for the rights &freedoms we are rapidly seeing hijacked by this current illegal occuppiing muslim marxist regime.”

            BUT Emma , you have yet to tell WHAT freedoms are lost or under attack?

            it’s really odd that you carry water for the conservatives who sent Bil to nam three times and is currently a mute.

            you really ARE Brainwashed aren’t you?
            oh and on SS and voting for the guys trying to shut it off.
            Oh and the guys cutting VA benefits

            god job Emma.

          347. Merle Dickey says

            How sad you two are .

          348. Reality Check says

            Better than Dumb as a radish.

          349. OSAMA OBAMA says

            Ha Another band-aid soldier just like Kerry! Did you desert like that coward Birdshit?

          350. Rick Rogers says

            The fact that you believe the lies about Kerry But Supported a Draft dodger like Bush says all that needs to be said.

          351. Merle Dickey says

            Sure you did . What, painting latrine doors in DC?

          352. Rick Rogers says

            Not that I am under any requirement to tell you anything but
            1980 Basic training and Tech Training
            1981 Incirlik AFB Turkey Det 16 during Military Coup 4 mouths of that Spent TDY on mountain top in Turkey over looking USSR boarder.
            1982 1985 Patrick AFB/ Cape Canaveral AFTAC Communications/ Shuttle Communication Team
            1986 to 1987 Ramstein AFB Germany Mobile Communications.
            1988 Patrick AFB. AFTAC Communications.

            So just say thank you for your service and we can leave it at that.

          353. Merle Dickey says

            Helping the big traitor in office (ILLEGALLY)

          354. Merle Dickey says

            You got my real name rag head!!!

          355. Rick Rogers says

            had to go back and look to make sure but can’t help it if you decided to butt in to the reply that was sent to someone else. You were not included in that statement.

          356. glenn398 says

            In Ricks case it is way past too late.

          357. glenn398 says

            Oh yes unemployment facts are really accurate as they don’t count those that have given up looking for a job, those that benefits have run out, those that went on the government dole and the biggie is the quality of jobs. Wake up if the unemployment rate was so low you wouldn’t have more people on the government dole then working.

          358. Rick Rogers says

            You would not be talking about those benefits that the GOP refused to extend those that were out looking for a job are you? In 2014 The newly GOP Leaders of the house stood up and said their number one Priority was jobs. To this date they have yet to pass ONE Job bill. And yet world wide President Obama year after year is one of the most admired men. In fact this last Time The FOX NEWS head line was “Trump tied for 2nd with the Pope for Most Admired” Funny thing they did not mention that the 1st position was the president. Everything he has been able to get done he has done IN SPITE of a congress that stated their number one job was to make sure he did not have a 2nd Term. Well they had the same success as they always Do. But hell lets look at the Record.

            Romney Promised during the 2012 campaign he would have unemployement numbers under 6 persent by 2016.. They were under 5.9 in Sept 2014 under the President

            Paul Ryan said that He and Romney would Protect and strengthen Medicare. But since everyone of his budgets he presents tries to cut it then I take that statement with a grain of salt. Under the President Medicare’s Hospital Insurance Trust fund’s Solvency has been extended by 13 years.

            In FEB 22, 2012 Newt Gingrich promised Americans they can look Forward to 2.50 a gallon gasoline.. I just looked across the street at the Gas station sign and it has a 1.69 per gallon price on it thats has been there since November. In fact 2.50 a gallon since like the bad old days now.

            A very Forgettable 2012 Candidate by the name of Tim Pawlenty pledge to spur 5 percent GDP Growth and was mocked by other GOP Candidates and Economist as being unachievable. And yet in the third Quarter of 2014 the Obama Economy hit the 5 percent Growth.

            When Republicans took control of the house in 2010 they stressed that Reducing Federal Budget deficit was of national Importance by yet the present tax plan after Tax plan that would do nothing but blow up the Budget Deficit. And yet the Deficit has Steadily Dropped throughout Obama’s Presidency.

            and I say this after having posted in 2012 that if Colin Powell had run I would have considered voting for him in the hopes he could get some Response out of the Lazy GOP controlled House of representatives.

            This really does not Surprise me because I have seen what The GOP says in the past about the most Christian man to hold office in the last 60 years. So why would it shock me that they decided to play to their racist Base. They admitted they were going to do everything that blocked his efforts when he was first elected. Yes I voted for him twice because the GOP candidates were not qualified, Out of touch, or was willing to put a Dangerous moron in the Office of Vice President one heart beat from the OVAL OFFICE. ( but looking back now should not have worried about that last one. She would have quit after 2 years.)

          359. glenn398 says

            Just how long do you think they should have been extended? The continuous extension of unemployment just made it possible for people not to have to look for a job. Besides that if you continue to extend unemployment it is no different then welfare. Obama the most admired man, with who except the Muslim’s. Think France made it clear what they think of him when the joined Russia in the fight against ISIS. Anything the Republicans propose Reid made sure it didn’t even get considered. All he has got done was double the national debt plus put so many people on the government dole that they now outnumber those working. As far as medicare he stole from medicare to fund Obama care and if you look at where the money came from for Obama care 25% came from medicare. So you think a man that never held any office for any length of time was totally qualified to run this country not even considering he wasn’t even a born U.S. citizen. Guess your qualification for running this country is even below the gutter.

          360. Rick Rogers says

            your information is out of date. The Nation Debt was doubled by the trillions of dollars spent on BUSH’s WARS. You claim about not being a us Citizen is not even worth commenting on because it has been disproved. But don’t worry we are going to let you have a taste of the Birther issue because there is now questions about the fact that Cruz’s mother gave up her US citizenship which means Cruz is not a US Citizen because we sure has hell know his father wasn’t.
            Come on Glenn just admit it you don’t like a black man as president and you are all upset that his name is not John Smith. Because if that is not the case then you would really go out and look at the things you claim and realize there were garbage generated by the GOP and Fox news to make sure that the man who has been the most successful President based on facts would look worst then DUBBA BUSH and his gang of criminals. No member of Obama’s Administration has been indicted for any crime in his 8 years in office. UNLIKE Ronald Reagan who had 131 people indicted.

          361. glenn398 says

            Bush added 5.63 trillion to the debt and it made it 10.6 trillion but today the debt is 18 trillion and soon to be 20 trillion. Unless you are using modern math I think that Obama wins that one. As far as Obama nothing has been proven and I remember when his grandmother on national T.V. said how proud she was that a boy born in Kenya could become president. His so call birth certificate doesn’t jibe with his SS number, he started college under a different name with a foreign student grant and if he has nothing to hide how come all his records were sealed. If he didn’t have anything to hide there would be no reason for that one and no one else has sealed any of their records.

          362. Rick Rogers says

            Sorry you believe all those Fantasies.. Not of them have a shred of Proof that would stand up in a court of law. And by the way that suppose Student id everyone points to. Its proven to be fact because of the fact it has a bar code on it .. Something that did not start doing until 10 years AFTER he was out of school.

          363. glenn398 says

            Believe what fantasies, I watched the interview myself when they were interviewing his grandmother or are you saying they had actors doing this? Your posting on the student ID statement doesn’t make sense to me, try again.

          364. Rick Rogers says

            His Grandmother later said she was trying to say that a person that had Kenyan Roots could be elected president.. As in where his Father was born.. But that does not matter at all. He could have been Born in Keyna that does not change the fact his mother was an American Citizen and that Makes him a American Citizen that can be president just as much as Ted Cruz can run. (Of course if Cruz’s Mother did in fact give up her US Citizenship by voting in a Canadian election BEFORE Cruz was born then he is not a US Citizen and should not be holding any office) As for the Student ID.. The one that has used by people claiming its his really should have done their research. The Photo of the ID shows a Bar code at the bottom of the card. They did not start putting barcodes on those ID Cards until Obama had been out of school for years. So someone took a Current ID put Obama’s Picture on it and tried to claim it was his. .That one Bar Code blows up the claim that it was his ID. Or do you think he was the only one in that College class that had a bar code??

          365. glenn398 says

            Maybe you should check facts before posting as a non citizen can hold any office except president. Of course she tried to correct what she said after Obama’s folks had a talk with her. Even ignoring the student thing his so called birth certificate is out of line with his SS card and why if he had nothing to hide djd they quickly seal all information about the man? Only someone who has a lot to hide would even care.

          366. Rick Rogers says

            FACT to hold office in the Senate

            Individuals must be:

            at least 30 years old.

            a U.S. citizen for at least nine years at the time of election to the Senate.

            a resident of the state one is elected to represent in the Senate.

            To Hold office in the House
            According to Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution, House members must be:

            at least 25 years of age.

            a citizen of the United States for at least seven years prior to election.

            a resident of the state he or she is chosen to represent.

            No other requirements are specified in Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution.

          367. glenn398 says

            So the point is you don’t have to be born in this country to run for either house

          368. Rick Rogers says

            No but you have to be a Citizen and there are now questions were his Parents Canadian Citizens when Cruz was born. If thats the case then he is not a US Citizen and can’t vote or hold office.

          369. glenn398 says

            Well unlike Obama’s case am sure they will go thru checking him out with a fine tooth comb. Seems like they are really ready to check him out before he runs for president but no such check on Obama or any mention of it.

          370. Rick Rogers says

            No check was ever needed you have a complete Valid Birth Certificate that matches the others that were issued during the week he was born you have the State of Hawaii recognizing the Birth Certificate. You have the fact that his mother was an american Citizen living in the State of Hawaii. You have him Running not only for The House But the Senate and winning the Senate. And then you have attention seeking Whores that started the birther movement and now that little stunt is about to come back and bite them on the Ass with Rafael CRUZ.. I refuse to call him TED because he is only using that name to trying and make everyone forget he was born to a Cuban father.. Hey A Canadian, Cuban and White Supremacist walked into the Bar… The Owner turned and told him We don’t want you kind in here TED CRUZ.

          371. glenn398 says

            Really that is why the Democratic governor of Hawaii immediately sealed Obama’s so called birth certificate. No birth certificate was ever shown until long after Obama took office. You kind try and get at least the joke straight and use your kind instead of you. You have a hang up on Cruz while he isn’t even leading to be elected. Still ignoring the difference between his so call date of birth and his SS number.

          372. Rick Rogers says

            That’s because there is no difference. SSN did not start using a standard format until 1962 the year after he was born. There is nothing on it but a number that is not suppose to be broadcast across the internet. Your facts aren’t facts at all but wishful fairytales. And I am typing on my phone so the dang auto correct things before i send it. so thats the typo’s

          373. glenn398 says

            Should have know anything about Obama would be different then anyone else. Even back in the 50s when I started working you had to have a SS number but maybe that was just me.

          374. Rick Rogers says

            I was born in 1958.. I did not have a social Security Card until I 1972 till I was 14 and started working my first part time job. and then it was issued by Virginia the state I was living in not that state I was born. Now a days you get a number at Birth in most cases but it was not always the case. thats why the SSN number might now match. It would be the case for me I was born in Charlotte NC but my SSN matches people born in VA.

          375. glenn398 says

            Then I take it your parents did not claim you as a dependent on their tax return?

          376. Rick Rogers says

            Yes they did. At that time My dad was in the Navy and I had a dependent ID card. All you had to have for that was a birth Certificate. The IRS did not start requiring those till later on.

          377. glenn398 says

            So you don’t find it weird that the SS number Obama uses was provided in Connecticut when he was attending high school in Honolulu and was never in Connecticut at that age.

          378. Rick Rogers says

            nope not in the least.. because According to mine I should be have been born in Virginia and did not actually live in Virginia until I was 14. And one other question.. Considering that the SSN is the one number that should never be made public how do we know for a fact that this supposed number is actually his number. If the Social Security Admistration released it who ever did committed a felony.

          379. glenn398 says

            Has nothing to do where you were born as those numbers show which district the SS number was issued. So his was issued in a state thousands of miles away from where he really was, quite a trick

          380. Rick Rogers says

            IF that is in fact his Real SSN.. Like i said its not a number you should let be out there in public. Has anyone Official ever said this is his SSN?

          381. glenn398 says

            That is the SS number he uses

          382. Rick Rogers says

            Glenn398.. Sorry but your buying into a hoax. You have me researching this and most of the evening and to be honest it did not take that long to disprove. This fantastical tale about President Barack Obama’s having used a Social Security number (SSN) issued to a French immigrant named Jean Paul Ludwig, born in 1890, is easily debunked. As can be verified through the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), a database of death records created from the United States Social Security Administration’s Death Master File Extract, the Social Security Administration was in fact informed of Ludwig’s death, and the Social Security number assigned to him was not, as claimed, the same as that assigned to Barack Obama (042-68-4425), but rather a completely different number (045-26-8722). Ludwig also didn’t pass away until 1981, by which time Barack Obama had long since been assigned a Social Security number of his own:

            The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since..

            Why Barack Obama’s Social Security card application might have included a Connecticut mailing address is something of a curiosity, as he had no known connection to that state at the time, but by itself that quirk is no indicator of fraud. The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived at the time he applied for his Social Security number in 1977 is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since ‘0’ and ‘9’ are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it’s not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident’s application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut).

          383. glenn398 says

            Wasn’t even looking at the French part at all was looking at the point that his ss number is 042 while the so called French number was 045 so no connection. On the other hand the 042 can’t be explained.

          384. Rick Rogers says

            Actually it can The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived at the time he applied for his Social Security number in 1977 is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since ‘0’ and ‘9’ are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it’s not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident’s application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut).

            There are two many people trying to make a conspiracy out of everything. This is something he would have nothing to do with because he did not control how the number was issued or who typed it into the system or even If they typed it in at all. IF you can’t understand how easy it would be to type a 0 instead of a 9 then Sorry can’t give you anymore explanation.. SO let me ask you this.. “where exactly was Ted Cruz’s his father when JFK was Killed”? :-0

          385. glenn398 says

            Yes In Obama’s case there is always an excuse and he has to be the winner of the most in modern history to try and make things right for him.

          386. Rick Rogers says

            To be fair its only the case if you trying to find something thats wrong. Where was all this outrage when Bush jr. was stealing the 2000 election?

          387. glenn398 says

            That’s your opinion but nobody is better than the democrats at stealing elections starting with Johnson winning the senate with votes from the grave.

          388. Rick Rogers says

            So claims every Republican that has lost an election because the Electorate rejected their message

          389. glenn398 says

            When you have districts like in Philly that had not one republican vote plus not counting the military vote yes I can claim they cheat. On the other hand I can’t debate with you as you don’t debate. I can find a lot of every republican president policies that I didn’t like. On the other hand there is nothing at all you can find wrong with the democrats. Think as long as it was a democrat he could pee on the white house desk on national T.V. and you would find a reason that would be justified.

          390. Rick Rogers says

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp There thats the best I can do. The Site debunks all Hoaxes no matter who they are about.

          391. Merle Dickey says

            Your wasting your time with him . He is a Obama paid troll that thinks he is going to get to be one of the royal ones LOL .

          392. glenn398 says

            Am sure you’re right but often wonder if these type of people believe what they are saying or don’t care because they are on the government dole and that is why they love the democrats no matter what happens to this country.

          393. Merle Dickey says

            I think most of it is the latter . As long as they get freebies they don’t care about anything else .

          394. glenn398 says

            Since they never cared enough to be responsible citizens of this country, why should they care about anything else.

          395. Merle Dickey says

            Liars, trouble makers and welfare recipients I guess is their thing. Sad .

          396. Merle Dickey says

            And we have a lot of those .Irresponsible I mean