Supreme Court Justice Has Ominous Warning


Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia unleashed some of his harshest criticism yet for the court this week in a speech at Santa Clara University. Scalia has long been the most outspoken conservative on the court, but it is clear from his tone that he has never been more concerned about the direction of the Judicial Branch.

“The whole time I have been on my court, it has been a liberal court,” Scalia said.

Scalia thinks the fundamental problem lies in the idea of the Constitution as a living document, subject to the whims of whichever justices happen to be minding the court. He disagreed with this position, telling the law students gathered there that the Constitution is a “legal document.”

“It means what it says and it doesn’t mean what it doesn’t say,” Scalia said in what is surely a contender for Quote of the Year. He questioned whether the American people would have ever supported the Constitution if they had been told that “the meaning of this document shall be whatever a majority of the Supreme Court says it is.”

In his long rant against the current state of the court, he predicted that it would bring about no less than the “destruction of our democratic system.”

“I cannot imagine the system can continue with more and more of the basic rules made by the Supreme Court,” he said.

Just think about what we’re hearing. This is one of the most powerful men in the country telling us that the institution to which he belongs is broken. And we would be foolish not to listen. You can go back to the original Roe vs Wade decision, but you don’t even have to. Just look at the decisions that came down this year on gay marriage and Obamacare. In these instances, the court completely abdicated its responsibility to uphold the Constitution. Instead, it became an absolute free-for-all where justices simply voted according to their political ideology.

Is this really the best direction for our country? Are our laws tied to anything more substantial than the whims of public opinion? Actually, no, it’s even worse than that. Our laws actually come down to the whims of these nine justices. And though liberals are quite happy with some of the court’s latest decisions, they should be as disturbed about this direction as anyone else.

But they aren’t. Why? Because liberals want to change this country in ways that we can’t even begin to imagine right now. And the only way they can do that is to propagate this idea that the Constitution is whatever we make of it. Under this fictional umbrella, we can put words in the Founding Father’s mouths. We can interpret what they may have meant, ignoring what they actually said. We can impose our modern-day values on the document, ignoring the fact that the Founders gave us a perfectly good method for changing it.

But no, liberals don’t want to make their changes through any process that would involve taking the temperature of the American public. They just want to do it. Whether it’s through executive order or a Supreme Court decision. They don’t want to change it in a way that gives the public a say. They know better than the public, they know better than the men who created this country, and they know better than you.

Scalia’s warnings will probably fall on deaf ears, and that’s a scary thought. Because this is going to get much worse before it gets…well, there’s no reason to think it will ever get better. Not until we decide to make it so.

  1. MAHB001 says

    Liberals have inserted themselves in positions of importance throughout Americas society and are pushing for the destruction of Capitalism so that they can rebuild in socialism..

    Liberal Socialists/communist now control Schools, Unions, Big Business, the MEDIA, Both Political Parties, and the Supreme Court.

    In order for the Liberals to take over control of the Republicans, they had to insert spies into the Republican elite. They did the same with the Supreme Court.

    Boehner and McConnell are good examples of liberal socialist spies that infiltrated the Republicans.

    Roberts and Kennedy are the spies in the Supreme court…

    They will only show their true colors when absolutely needed, and the damage these four men have done to America and conservative values is astounding…

    1. Scrubjay says

      True, although I might not go as far as to say these men purposefully infiltrated the system. It seems to me they, like most Progressives, simply believe they are smarter than the populace at large, and know what’s better for the party.

      Of course they’re wrong, but that never stopped a Liberal, be it Republican or Democrat, before, and no sane argument will dissuade them now.

      1. MAHB001 says

        In the book, “The Naked Communist,” there is a list of agenda items created by communists in the 1930s that were used by the Communists to weaken Americas institutions.,..

        The entire list has been adopted by the Democrats/Liberals/progressives of today.

        15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

        That is why I think the corruption at the top of Both political parties is on purpose…

        1. Mark Clemens says

          It’s so we really don’t have a choice. It’s a bad vote either way.

          1. MAHB001 says

            The choice is obvious.

            Democrats = Socialism
            Republicans = Capitalism……

            Crony Capitalism is simply /communism/socialism corrupting Capitalism… It took me a long time to figure that out, but if you think about it. I think you will agree.

          2. Janthony132 says

            Keep figuring, you’re only half way there

          3. MAHB001 says

            Help me out…

          4. Justice says

            Mohammed said the Koran is authoritative only in Arabic, and only in his dialect;
            The Bible is authoritative in many languages around the world, for God knows all things and can inspire His Word in more than one language.

          5. AKLady says

            Mohammed said no such thing.
            Carbon dating of the Quran at the University of Oxford clearly documents that it predates Muhammad. Probability that the dating was ocrrect is 94%.

          6. Justice says

            According to the Islam religion, the teachings of Muhammad and the Quran came STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN and cannot have any earthly source. Yet Western scholarship easily shows that ALL of Islam is based on the customs and fables of pre-Islamic Arabia and misinterpretation of the Bible by Muhammad.

            Even the word, “Islam” wasn’t new with Muhammad. It originally meant,

            defiance of death, heroism, to die in battle

            Today, it is supposed to mean


            Now given all the terrorism from the Middle East and fighting between the Shiite and Sunnis which definition better fits Islam? “to die in battle” or “submission”? The Quran commands Muslims to convert everyone to Islam or else kill them. “Islam” existed before Muhammad came on the scene so there is an earthly source.

          7. AKLady says

            According to the Christian religion, the teachings of
            the Bible come streight from God.
            Western archeological experts have reached exactly the same conclusions about the Christian Bible.
            What difference has that made? None.
            As far as instructions for killing, I suggest you go back and read the Old Testameent again. You seem to have missed a great deal.

          8. Justice says

            The Encyclopedia of Islam says:

            The Arabs, BEFORE the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fashion, a supreme god called Allah. (ed. Houtsma)

            Allah was known to the PRE-Islamic Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities. (ed. Gibb)

            AIlah…appears in PRE-Islamic poetry…By frequency of usage, al-ilah was contracted to allah, frequently attested to in pre-Islamic poetry. (ed. Lewis)

          9. Peatro Giorgio says

            AkaLady: Those out side The Faith seem though irrationally point to the old Testament. While in the very same breath set aside the New Testament. Old Testament. The old Covenant. New Testament . The new Covenant. Which by the way is the very Covenant Christian’s live Under and Have since Christ Jesus Ascension. Which by the way was 40 days after he had risen. Which by all counts was about 2 days after death. Not 3 as some contend.

          10. AKLady says

            You simply ignore the wholesale Christian terror, currently taking place.

          11. Peatro Giorgio says

            With out the use of exaggeration or false claims made by zealots of the evil ones such as the progressive ,atheist please explain what Christian Terror ? For the only terror the world is presently aware of is the mass slaughter ,persecution of Christians.
            The obvious is oblivious to you ! That my friend is quite clear to all who read your Comments .

          12. AKLady says

            What is obvious, Peatro, is that you are a bigot.

            You blame the world’s second largest religion for the acts of a few.

            Here is a short list of Christian terror that tooj place right here in the U.S.A. within recent history:

            1. Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012.
            2. The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009.
            3. Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008.
            4. The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994.
            5. The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.
            6. The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998.
            7. Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994.
            8. Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010.
            9. The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984.
            10. Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995.

          13. AKLady says

            Here is a list of the America Christian Terror groups:

            The Army of God,
            The Defense Action,
            The Montana Freemen,
            The Covenant,
            The Sword,
            The Arm of the Lord,
            Hutaree Christian Militia,
            Aryan Republican Army,
            Phineas Priesthood,
            The Christian Identity Movement…

            What is evident, is that your eyes and ears are closed.

          14. Will says

            The Jewish law given Moses and Aaron was later amended and clarified by Christ Jesus. That was almost 2000 years ago. Do adherents of Christ follow his teaching well? Not so much. The adherents of sharia however are doing what their obviously man-made religion requires when they murder those who won’t convert to it. That the God of the bible tells us “vengeance is mine! I shall repay” and the queran tells islamics to convert, starve out or murder the people they encounter when invading foreign lands, should bring to your mind the origin of each of these commands. Judged by God, or judged by man. They seem to have very different origins to me. Humanity has always been a rebellious, surly and selfish bunch. If you judge faith by the actions of it’s adherents, you get a false and damning view of All world religions. Consider what Christ Jesus and his inspired apostles taught in the new testament for a better understanding of what the God who will judge us all. There have been many opportunities for You and I to come to salvation, but our opportunities dwindle by the day at our age and you are loved and cherished as a creature of the living God. Please read the new testament again.

          15. AKLady says

            The my religion is better than your religion game.
            That is exactly what you are playing a game.

            All religions teach one thing — hate. Some do a better job of it than others.

            Christianity and Islam are neck-in-neck for first place.

            When you come to realize that, you will then have truely understood what Christ has to say. He did not teach to start a religion. That was the last thing he wanted.

          16. Will says

            Not a game. When this age is over, it will be over for good. It seems that we near the end.

          17. AKLady says

            Oh, it is a game.
            A very big money game, which has been played ad naseum over the decades.

          18. Peatro Giorgio says

            Another lie the oldest known Quran has been dated to be no more then 600 years . The carbon dating was completed this very year. 2015. That according to the professors at Oxford Institute of science. Which of course dates it right around the time of Mohammed. As for the misinterpreting of Mohammed this to is false Mohammed dictated the Quran to his personal scribe For Mohammed could neither read or write . Mohammed actually Plaggerized, The Bible. However ,he perverted, convoluted, and twisted the text to fit His Thoughts an beliefs. Leaving very little of God’s Word intact.

          19. AKLady says

            The Birmingham Koran has benn carbon dated to between AD568 and 645, while the dates of Mohammed’s life are traditionally given as AD570 to 632. This means that at the very latest it was written before the first formal texts were supposed to have been collated, and at the earliest it was written before or shortly after Mohammed was born.

          20. sharon says

            Democrats want the NWO of Islam, that is what Obama is trying to push in America.

          21. MAHB001 says

            The Democrats socialism will fall to some sort of NWO/communism, or some outside dictator as soon as it is implemented…..

            You are correct, the socialism will not be in place long, and once again, socialists will be used as useful idiots.

          22. glorybe2 says

            All that the NWO implies is that nations have different power abilities as time goes on. Right now China is the greatest power on Earth. In 1800 England was the greatest power on Earth. The US did have a period of about 80 years as the greatest power. Things change. it is not a conspiracy. Nobody is king of the hill permanently.

          23. MAHB001 says

            Nothing is inevitable, including the NWO….

            If you read the book, “The Naked Communist” and review the list designed to destroy America, and couple that to the FACT that Liberals have adopted and are implementing the entire list….

            THAT is the very definition of a conspiracy…

            Are you advocating giving up?

          24. glorybe2 says

            There is always a new world order and always has been a new world order. it is not a conspiracy nor is it evil. It is simply a recognition that the wealth and power of nations changes from time to time and the nation that was stronger a year ago may not be the stronger nation this year. So if we look this year and want to expand business is Spain more robust than Italy? It is simply a pecking order.

          25. MAHB001 says


            New World Order is an totalitarian world Government… just google nwo.
            Please do some reading on your own. Do not go back to whomever is feeding you information for advice… That source is not helping you at all.

          26. glorybe2 says

            That is what the paranoids believe and it is warped because they have no real facts or proofs of such notions. How many groups have been accused of trying to take over the world. I just know that The Free Masons are coming to get us all. Seriously stop believing in nonsense.

          27. MAHB001 says

            Insults only prove my points. They are a technique used by liberals to stop and deflect conversations when the liberals have no facts to support their statements.

            In other words, your insults only feed my paranoia… 🙂 But then again being scared is a natural self preservation technique, that does not mean you are wrong…

          28. glorybe2 says

            Being afraid can also get you killed. Let a large animal think you are afraid and you are in deep trouble. Even a horse will act out if he gets a rider who is afraid.

          29. MAHB001 says

            I’ll go with my instincts and my instincts say that socialism is something to be worried about.

          30. Will says

            When mountains of evidence pile up Glory’, proof or not, a preponderance of evidence becomes proof. The plan to get control of the money supply of the world has already been accomplished and the vast majority of our political class (ivy league poly-sci or law majors) (both fake parties) have been corrupted. That is why I’ve decided to vote for citizens with ‘no experience in politics’ every chance I get.

          31. glorybe2 says

            Where is evidence that control of the money supply has already happened? Obviously China and the US have great issues with controlling the value of their currencies and do not cooperate at all.

          32. glorybe2 says

            And what genius considers the NWO as a conspiracy to take over the world? No sane nation would ever want to take over certain nations as they are so screwed up that owning them would be a dead loss for any occupying power. Almost all meetings of the various organizations accused of wanting to take over the world are open to the news media or members of the public. And any invited guests remain free to make comments as well. But some jerk who can’t earn a living will write false books about his supposed knowledge of the NWO or the other groups also accused of similar nonsense.

          33. Will says

            There is no ‘nation’ sane or not behind the NWO. It is a group of families (largely in control of the banks that control the central banks of the world, and through which control governments of the world, particularly in the western nations) ,who consider themselves better and more worthy to live than the ‘masses’. There are very many false narratives available on the internet either posted by paranoid, glory-hound or shills for the NWO, all of whom discredit those of legitimacy. The text of the georgia guidestones gives a look into the mindset of these families. The US has since it’s inception been a refuge for the downtrodden of the world because of our constitution.

          34. glorybe2 says

            And this special information came to you by what source? No proofs, no details, no names, just blind irrational beliefs.

          35. glorybe2 says

            Here we go again. I just stopped trembling over the Illuminati and now i have to cower in fear over Rich Families. God everyone is out to get me.

          36. Will says

            They are the same families Glory. Rothschild, Rockefeller, Davis, DuPont, Sinclair.. bla bla. They teach their children to ‘control everything, own nothing’ (even though they own more than most of us can conceive of. They control the banks that control all but 4 or 5 central banks in the world, they deeply influence the governance of those countries through obvious and less obvious means. Many rash adherents of all conspiracy theories claim that the world is run by JEWS!. This isn’t a racial thing, (I don’t think) but rather an ‘elite deserve to control the masses driven group’. There are mountains of red herrings and lies to dig through but there is actually some good reliable data to dig through, if it interests you. I would recommend that You don’t cower in fear. Every one of us will die from something, the vast majority of caused will be very unpleasant or very painful. Too bad. It’s the human condition. If You would really like some solid proof of my contention, read “None dare call it conspiracy” published in 1968 and compare what the author wrote with what we see today. That book is extensively documented with sources that you can find and check for contextual accuracy. The desired outcome of at least some of the conspirators is ‘immortalized’ on the Georgia Guidestones (that garbage is incredibly depressing though). I recommend the book.

          37. glorybe2 says

            There is an unproven theory with zero evidence to support it that the NWO is some sort of covert, evil organization. There is also a reality that in order for humanity to continue to survive we will eventually need some sort of world government. Powerful forces that can destroy us all can not be restrained unless all nations work together. For example India is very resistant to curtailing coal burning and other pollution. We already are in an emergency condition due to global warming. how can we allow nations to continue doing nothing?

          38. MAHB001 says

            Have you Google’d NWO? Try it, And you call that an unproven theory…

            And then you go on to say that it is also a reality that in order for humanity to continue to survive we will eventually need some sort of world government..

            My God, you can’t even connect your own dots…. That some sort of world government is the NWO….. It will be totalitarian. It will fall short of your utopia because humans are evil, and the evil ones will rise to the top…

            Now your unproven theory is climate change, or global warming, or global cooling… These natural phenomena are being used to control your fears…

          39. glorybe2 says

            Climate change is not a theory. it is a measurable reality with 97% of the world’s scientists in agreement. Lives are already being lost due to climate change. The class five hurricane that rolled over Mexico is the first class five storm to smack Mexico in recorded history. The storm missed the large cities and towns but we have heard nothing about the smaller towns and villages that were hit. I think if the public knew what happened down there we would have a severe panic on all the coastal states who became aware what could easily befall them. A class 5 hurricane might erase a city from the face of the Earth.

          40. MAHB001 says

            Climate change is definitely a theory. There are just as many measurements that disprove climate change as prove it. It is the third attempt and getting the people to give up and give in to big government controls.

            One thing is for certain, all the Governments taxes will not stop the next hurricane.

          41. glorybe2 says

            Yes and A squared + B squared equals C squared is also a theory even though no exception in the geometry of a right triangle has ever been found in all of history. But if you live near a beach global warming smacks you right in the face. People who live near beaches watch the sea rise year after year. And that is all over the world. Denial of global warming is like belonging to the Flat Earth Society with people who believe the world is flat.

          42. MAHB001 says

            Yes but Climate change reacts off of changes in degrees Celsius that are way smaller than the degree of error.

            They are claiming some ridiculously small amount of change and they can’t even measure the changes with any degree of accuracy…

            But hey, in Politics, you don’t need facts, and it is the politicians that are using climate change to tax more and take more.

            Shame on the scientists for being bought out.

          43. glorybe2 says

            If one tries to measure air temperatures or even water temperatures the shifts are sudden and local weather effects the results. But there is one excellent way to measure warming and that is the rise of sea levels. It would be hard to find any beach anywhere in the world that has not been shrinking. Maybe a sand bar or some other fluke could create one or two beaches that are getting larger but entire islands are sinking. Both the east and west coast of the US are showing way to rapid shrinkage. The rivers and canals that empty into the oceans are also rising. Salt water intrusion is effecting our fresh water supplies. Keep in mind that Florida is roughly 100 miles wide and we have deep wells about 20 miles inland so that salt water intrusion will not effect our drinking water. That really comes down to 20 miles measured from the east and west coast of Florida which leaves a 60 mile span from which we can draw drinking water for 20 million people as well as our crops. Add a few inches of ocean rising and that thin strip from which we draw water gets narrower and narrower. Then we have another issue. We get very heavy rains compare to most states. We have to drain fresh water into the ocean to keep our fields and homes above water. With rising seas we have no downhill at all so we can not drain off water or perhaps can only drain off water at low tides. By the way Florida is about the only place in the US that can raise crops in the winter. Global warming has more than one way of creating havoc.

          44. MAHB001 says

            Even the rise in sea levels in not accurate to measure.. I do not agree with your statement that the coasts are shrinking..

            Climate change is a theory that can not be proven with science because the margin of error is greater than the measurements the theory claims are changing.

            But, the politicians are more than willing to take your money to save you from it.

            I live in CA, (and have lived in Florida), we are suffering from a politician made water shortage. The drought was made by God, but the water shortage was made by man. They chose to save about 5 fish in the Sacramento Delta over millions of peoples needs… And now what are they doing? Taxing the crap out of us to pay for silly commercials telling us to water on odd days…

            You fear a monster (rising tides) that you can easily walk away from, I fear a monster (socialism) that history has shown millions dying from.

            BTW, CA can also grow crops in the winter, yet the fish are more important.

          45. jreb57 says

            “Shame on the scientists for being bought out.”
            AGW is BS no doubt about it and the reason is money and control. The science does not support it, hence you must buy scientist. Google Richard Lindzen and see.

          46. MAHB001 says

            These “Scientists” will go down in history as lower creatures than Goebbels.

            They are subhuman scum.

          47. jreb57 says

            “Climate change is not a theory.”
            True. But man caused climate change is a theory; not supported by science I might add. The earth has gone through eight major climate changes that we have evidence of and none of these were caused by man because it happened in prehistory. If you understand physics and math it should be obvious.

          48. jreb57 says

            “it is a measurable reality with 97% of the world’s scientists in agreement”
            Horsecrap. 97% of the scientist haven’t even been asked..

          49. glorybe2 says

            Scientists that responded to the survey were 97% in agreement. No sane person doubts global warming is occurring. Find a real university that claims that global warming is not happening. Only the right wing fools are capable of having false beliefs such as the denial of global warming.

          50. Peatro Giorgio says

            You mean 97% of government sponsored scientist. Say so. Well that’s only 3% of all world wide scientist. And a mere 18 percent of climatologist.

          51. Peatro Giorgio says

            Here’s some facts you’ve left out of your diatribe. Fact #1 NASA Climatologist , Metro logistics have state d in peer reviewed papers. No significant global oceanic water temps increase has occurred in the last 19 years. Oceanic temperature have maintained near normal reading. A total of 1 -100th of a degree increase over the last 19 years is with in normal ranges. Proof is in Antarctica s Ice sheets growing at a rate of 95 billion tons per year. Further more Global climates have changed and changed significantly on numerous occasion over the past 4.5 billion years. Of earth’s history .

          52. jreb57 says

            “We already are in an emergency condition due to global warming. how can we allow nations to continue doing nothing?”
            Not so. No warming in last 14 years. You can’t control the climate. You cannot control anything unless you know the cause. You therefore cannot control the climate by controlling CO2 because CO2 does not bear a relationship tp global temperatures. Solar energy however does.

          53. jreb57 says

            Communists have viewed themselves as the forefront of a new world order since they took over Russia.

          54. glorybe2 says

            I really doubt that communists are very interested in taking over much of the world at all. How many billions did the lose supporting Cuba? What reward did they get by so doing? Want to take over Ethiopia? You can get several million diseased and starving people as well as some fairly worthless land.

          55. jreb57 says

            “I really doubt that communists are very interested in taking over much of the world at all”
            They certainly fought many proxy wars called a “revolution of the proletariat” in a failed attempt during the period between the end of WW2 to 1990 when the Soviet Union went tango utah. I think the Chi-coms lost interest in being used in the fore front of these wars. What I think is that they have shifted strategy from proxy wars to cultural wars that will allow them to be elected into office where they will then consolidate their power such that it will take a revolution to remove them.

          56. Peatro Giorgio says

            So you doubt it .Well here’s something you hadn’t figured. Putin now controlling mush of the oil reserve in the Ukraine,now moving into Sierra, While Aligning with Iran. Putin shall control 60% or more of the worlds oil reserve.I’d say that’s a dam good start. WOULD YOU NOT?

          57. jreb57 says

            I was quoting what glorybe2 posted. I have no doubt as to their intention.

          58. Peatro Giorgio says

            I know I was siding with you. My error was in not pressing the correct individuals reply button.

          59. Justice says

            America is hurting financially, but most people haven’t a clue just how badly! Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney warned us that a criminal syndicate has hi-jacked our federal government and is hollowing-out our nation’s economy! The banksters (aka, Federal Reserve Banks) or as some call, Wall Street, have been stealing the U.S. economy blind, recklessly bilking the American tax-payer for TRILLIONS of dollars in the form of our national debt. All that borrowed money is paid NOW to the banksters, while the debt hasn’t been realized yet by “WE THE PEOPLE” who owe it!!!

          60. glorybe2 says

            Now deduct the amount of debts that one branch of our government owes another branch. How many billions have been loaned out of Social Security and must be paid back with interest from other governmental agencies?

          61. glorybe2 says

            Well we do agree on one point. Business and crime are pretty much the same thing in most cases.

          62. Peatro Giorgio says

            Your questions is Spain more robust then Italy ? ” answer ” Hell no they are both equally in trouble . And it also can be said of all of Europe. As well both south and north America. And it all leads back to the emergence of socialism.

          63. glorybe2 says

            The people in northern Italy live better than you do. The people in southern Italy remain poor. That has been true under numerous political systems.
            Take a peek by doing a search for the 10 richest nations. The US is sixth on the list. Now look at what forms of government the top five nations have in place.

          64. Will says

            The new world order that You’ve described is a natural progression. The “NWO” is one of the names for the conspiracy. There are many names, as they have been forced underground by governments through it’s times. It is rooted in mystery school teaching. Their coming to power will be the culmination of all scriptural end of days prophecy. The order that is Seen is not the only NWO. Templar Knights (may not have been knowingly luciferian, but were in possession of some mystery school secrets), illuminati, and some other names have been used by the luciferian cult that is in control of the council on foreign relations and the trilateral commission and that is instrumental in organizing Davos and the Bilderberg meetings. The club of Rome is aligned with the NWO/Iluminati. David Rockefeller’s book ‘Memoirs’ will educate you somewhat as to the ways the conspiracy has gone so far and how it is hoped by the conspirators that it will play out. It is malevolent. It IS a conspiracy, maybe from ancient days, surely from the mid seventeenth century, and plans to help lucifer reign upon his return to earth. Really.

          65. glorybe2 says

            No I just do not accept that some guy that writes a book should be taken so seriously. A lot of people made a lot of money supposedly exposing or fighting communism. Those people often lied like a rug. And yes there was a period in history in which great fear existed that communism would spread and take over everywhere and there were communist leaders who thought that way. Really Russia was the focal point of it all. Russia was a terrible place under the Tzars. Russia was also a terrible place when the communists took over. There seems to be something built into communism that causes great violence and terror when a nation is first taken over. China felt it. Cambodia felt it. And to a lesser degree Cuba felt it. But today Russia is still communist with some modernization and the Russian people still struggle but struggle less than at any time in history. Could a democratic republic exist in Russia in 1910? I’m not at all convinced that it could have. After the authoritarian rule of the tzars and the aristocrats the mentality of the Russian people might not have been able to live under a milder form of government.

          66. MAHB001 says

            I think it prudent to consider when a book written 60 years ago that exposed a plot designed to destroy America turns out to be adopted by Liberals within America as solid warnings.

            I would expect someone that is following the list to deny the list as it really is hurtful to Americans and Americans would not agree with it unless they were being fooled by that group..

            Just because the book was written a long time ago, by people we considered enemies, and the fact that our own people are following the list is enough to draw concern by rational people.

            What scares me is liberals these days hate Capitalism so much that they forget what they are running towards, and what is on the other end of the scale is communism, as socialism is not an option.

            Russia actually called its liberals useful idiots… You say Russia was a terrible place under the Tzars, isn’t it funny that 0bama has Tzars today???

            The reason Communism causes great violence and terror when a nation is first taken over is because communism as well as socialism is a form of slavery.. The Tzars and dictators kill all who oppose. Then after all the bloodshed, after the people who do not want to live under slavery are extinguished, the violence subsides… Just like Russia, Just like China, just like Cuba, and the list goes on. .

            The same will happen here in the U.S., hundreds of millions will die, including the liberals that are disillusioned that they were promised something different, and got slavery.

            The only thing that has stopped the likes of 0bama is that our Government has not taken the guns away from the public yet.

          67. Will says

            I read the book, The Bible. This work is widely available and widely ignored. It is a compilation of 66 books, four of five of which have some snippets of prophecy concerning the coming (still) end of this age. Comparing those prophetic snippets with available information, concerning the conspiracy of a luciferian cult currently in control of the world financial system and aiming for complete world domination, the description of which compares to Soviet tyranny of the twentieth century. This is coming. Life always ends in death. That is the first death. The second death isn’t appointed to man who repents and comes to Christ. It’s all in the book. Recommended reading for the awake.

          68. MAHB001 says

            great advice.

          69. Peatro Giorgio says

            Well if we send all the demo rats to China with in one year that nation will once again be back to the stone age.

          70. ELAINE MARZANO says

            You know I do love you. you are so funny. I don’t know how you do it. but you manage to keep your cool!!!

          71. Peatro Giorgio says

            Actually Elaine remaining cool is rather easy when one is dealing with ignorant arrogant fools. I am sometimes angered when reading or listening to fellow Fiscal conservatives or those whom are libertarian lean such as myself . When they to speak or write in hyperbola. Though I tend to give them much more grace and offer up more compassion and understanding. But as often is the case I fail to convince them that we are not enemies . But rather having a miss understanding of each others thoughts,beliefs, and or opinions. Thank you For your thoughts. God speed sister.

          72. Will says

            You know nothing about the so called NWO if you believe that fairytale. What is called the ‘NWO’ by those who understand, are implementing a plan to rule the world, hold those who are submissive enough to be allowed to live and deemed useful to the elite in a very low standard of living so that ‘the masses’ left won’t be able to use much of the resources that the elite honestly believe belong to their progeny. Even more simply put, a world-wide soviet style tyranny run by the elite (international bankers, old european royal families, etc.). I wish that your normalcy bias was valid, as I don’t look forward to this coming state of affairs, but it is not.

          73. Justice says

            National sovereignty, what’s that? With every passing day, being an American CITIZEN seems to mean less and less to Americans. Whatever happened to America’s sovereignty? You know, our nation’s total independence from dependence upon other nations? Due to deindustrialization (that big sucking sound of millions of American manufacturing jobs leaving the country for foreign soil), Americans are now dependant upon foreign nations for our steel, computer electronics, household goods and even food. I was disgusted when I bought some apple juice and read on the ingredient label that it was reconstructed with concentrate from China. We don’t even grow apples in the U.S. anymore!!!

          74. glorybe2 says

            The right wing loved factories going off shore as it held down wage increases of our factory workers. They then turned around and bragged that factory wages had no increased under republic regimes. All the while these republicans knew that the factory workers would not have the time or education to figure out how they were being screwed and many of those workers still voted republican.

          75. glorybe2 says

            You honestly think that the conspiracy nuts understand anything at all? To these types of people a Chinese diner opening in town is taken as the Chinese invading America. Make a list of groups that the extreme right accuses of trying to take over America. I haven’t heard much whimpering about the Tri Laterals lately. How about the mafia? The Free Masons, the Shrine , the Bilderburgers, the KKK, Skull and Bones, and a thousand others all supposedly are trying to take over America. It is all total nonsense. When people fail they seek someone to blame. They can’t get ahead. it must be those black people taking the jobs. Or the Irish are driving down wages. Or the Italians are at fault or those nasty Jews have all the money and are making us all poor. And those Catholics control everything and one can’t succeed if one is not Catholic. Or the Pakistanis are swallowing all the jobs.
            If were not so sick it would be a comedy.

          76. Peatro Giorgio says

            Well Well the idiocy continues. Let us talk about ever conspiracy theory from the Left just who were the conspirators why yes The KKK.was demo -rats the Skin Heads a branch off of the kKK them to demo-rats .The weather under ground Bill Ayers lunatic from the demo -rats, Black Lies matter left fringe lying lunatic of the demo-rats, Twin towers attack conspirators another lying lunatic left fringe group of demo -rats, .The Warren Commission Lying Dem-rats. The Lying Demo -rats who conspired to cover for shillary on Benghazi. It was a video. The lies from the left who have conspired for years to keep the Black Americans in their place. The lying conspirators who illegally push through congress O bummer no care health care. Just how exactly had they conspired to perform that illegal act well .The demo rats in the house passed a budget bill which then move over to the senate. The then majority leader lying sack of crap Harry got decked by his son Reid removed all lines from with in that bill retaining only the title. Then after doing so place the bill open for a vote on the senate floor , While using the nuclear option to remove the ability of the republican minority from filibustering it. The vote then went forward for a vote demo rats having the majority in that chamber passed the illegal bill to have it go to the other well known lying sack of crap o blow hard Obama who signed it into law. Conspiracies rain with the demo-Rats. I mite add with the help of many reject in the re-puke establishment.

          77. glorybe2 says

            Wow! You think the Weather Underground was composed of democrats. You really are clueless. Democrat or repukeican the Weather wanted all of them at the bottom of the ocean.

          78. jreb57 says

            “Wow! You think the Weather Underground was composed of democrats”
            Ever hear of William Ayers? Democrat and former unindicted Weather Underground member. Also unrepentant. Introduced Obama to Chicago politics.

          79. glorybe2 says

            “By those that understand” Is that some sort of group that meets in a tree house and use special decoder rings or does it require some sort of foil hat to acquire that ” special understanding?

          80. Justice says

            When unemployed American CITIZENS have to compete with illegals to find a job, it is a very sad day in America. It is pure Communism for our government leaders to force tax-payers to pay welfare for illegal immigrants. We are being forced to pay for their food, their children’s education, their hospital care and now even forfeit our jobs to them. Where does this travesty of justice end?

          81. glorybe2 says

            We do not compete with immigrants for jobs at all. Crops have rotted in the fields because Americans will not labor in the fields. Americans refuse menial or low paying jobs constantly. We have a large lawn company cut our complex. The workers are Nicaraguan, and south American with every once in a while a Latino tossed in the mix. It is 90 degrees here today and much hotter in the summer. White workers do not work for that company and black workers also avoid it. They work at a very fast pace and the heat doesn’t bother them one bit. Very, very few Americans can labor under these conditions. Christmas day can be 85 degrees here and you can only imagine what our summers are like.

          82. Peatro Giorgio says

            O yes another idiot spewing the very same talking points of the pro amnesty corporate lobbing liars . Here are the facts, the facts do not lie. Those whom promulgate the myth that Americans will not work the fields or work in the hospitality industry, Or labor at landscaping jobs never seem to acknowledge one pertinent certain point . That is those corporations have co conspired with the chamber of commerce an in the business community of all sizes. Those conspirators are as follows progressive demo-rats, rino and moderate republican rejects each of which desire to prosper off the backs of the american people in one form or fashion,By provide a cheaper labor force to their collaborators . Its about their prosperity and the nations citizen people be dammed. Here’s the point.
            Lets first look to the unions as to how ,who and why. The unions have followed the lead from other’s in the market place. In most recent history ,. j Unions positions are now given to the immigrates whether illegal or legal. “WHY ” Well they the unions have reduced their starting salaries for their new work force by 1 third the cost. And why ? Yes of course ! ” Profits” an further to compete with the non union work force. Which had for several years now employed the low wage low skilled illegal immigrant Who would not complain about safety about working condition about wages not being paid about no social security payments not being drawn or payed into accounts, would not complain about no health care would not complain about 16 hour or more work days The average starting salaries for an apprentice had for years been $ 22.75 dollars an hour. The beginning rate is now $16.00. These wage reduction are now occurring in the carpenter’s union , the electricians,the Pipe fitters,the laminate and flooring men’s unions. Just who is the unions now hiring? Why yes of course the unskilled uneducated immigrants.
            Now let us review the farm and ranch help. We must however go back 25 years. When the average farm help was payed any where from 5 to 15 dollars an hour. Why pay sound solid wages when Aggro business and the chamber of commerce can open up the border; an bring forth a title wave of low wage low or unskilled workers to take those jobs from the American market place with low wage unskilled workers. Which they will willingly pay half or less the cost of Americans. Each year driving the wages lower an lower. The illegals have no say; they will work for bread and water. If not literately at the very least figuratively. Most aggro business’s will also provide shack like housing, modest food supplies and humble clothing. So as to keep the migrating worker returning year after year. To the very same farms. Illegals will never file legal complaints, They shall remain silent and take what ever is given.
            We have a justice department who will not step in. We have administration after administration that promulgate’s these actions. While they close their eyes an say it isn’t our problem, we are not the cause of this crisis. They of course lie. They say we cannot close the border; we can not possibly deport 11 million. Here again they lie. Fact is the numbers are closer to the 45 million mark. We can deport every single one of them. O certainly it would take some time, some effort and it certainly would have some cost to it. However that cost can be directly recovered from the fines and penalties Just make it so punitive so very costly to the Employers who are employing illegals. That they shall refrain from do so in the near future..
            Lastly we have the business communities who are all to happy to bankrupt the nation to fill their pockets. While the chamber of commerce is all to happy to help; so long as they the chamber continue’s to receive the contributions from the business community.
            I as a young man who grew up in a middle income family. Work the field of the local family farmers Part time , took on a part time job as a short order cook, worked part time in a fish market, I also worked an learned the trade of a stone Mason. I personally know several. local neighborhood teenagers and young adults who now would willingly take any reasonable paying job doing any kind of work.
            However when jobs like McDonald’s pays $10.00 an hour and a farmer or Landscaper is not willing to hire you even as they have advertised help wanted. They claim your not qualified or your over qualified. There is something very wrong and I know exactly what it is. It is called cover your ass. It really is simple the employer had absolutely no intention of hiring a legal resident or citizen. No they were merely attempting to make it seem as though they couldn’t find Americans who were willing to work .Their intention; was in fact to hire low wage under skilled illegals who would not,will not complain. illegals are willing to work under any an all adverse condition’s . “Period ” That is Fact’s, The whole truth. Folks we have got to stop believing anything and everything coming from the arrogant elitist, who only tell us what we wish to hear.
            And many of you believe in their fairy tales.

          83. glorybe2 says

            This time your rant is so crazy and long i won’t bother to pick it apart.

          84. Will says

            Not so, glory. The NWO proponents are likely in possession of some of the mystery school teachings (probably written teachings of fallen angels from when they roamed the earth). Some of or all the families are convinced that they carry a remnant of fallen angelic blood which they protect by intermarriage between the families. These are some far-out characters. They intend to control this earth and usher in the rule of lucifer. Outrageous claims, but I didn’t make most of them. This is information gleaned from a rogue family member here and friend of the families there, a careful examination of the structure of banking around the world and illuminati mind-controlled slaves a tiny few that have broken free, and the confessions of David Rockefeller in 1983 or so. Finally, we have a little more information leaking out that can pieced together to form a fabric of substance that can be used to better time the coming judgment of man.

          85. glorybe2 says

            The US has been socialist for more than half a century. So far it has worked out pretty well. In your pocket you have an SS card. Social Security is a form of socialism. The US has never, ever been capitalist in nature. It has always been a mixed system without free markets and with all kinds of official policies and laws. Much of our criminal law is based on religion. On the east coast of the US we had American people who made their living sinking mostly American ships by creating false light houses and other means. They also hid in the brush seeking smugglers in small boats landing on our beaches. The notion that the population should have loyalty and not murder people for plunder was not a part of their thinking at all. Many others headed west so that any contact with government could be avoided.

          86. MAHB001 says

            You have to be careful about bragging about social security… The system has already been stolen from by corrupt politicians and will collapse in a couple of years.

            Social Security proves my points more than it justifies yours. SS proves that socialism doesn’t work because of corrupt politicians within the Government. Which is exactly why Pure Socialism will never exist.

            While it is true that the US has never been Pure capitalist in nature… America has always been far more Capitalist than socialist. America is based on Freedom, liberty and justice for all. Socialism is based on a form of slavery, which is not free, or just (because of the corrupt Government.)

            I am not sure where you are going with your example of criminals stealing from the haves, but their activities were NOT the ones that defined the Nation or Capitalism. If anything those criminals working outside of the law were effecting their own corrupt version of the redistribution of wealth.. That is taking from the wealthy and giving it to themselves.. The socialists would be pissed because the Government (collective) was taken out of the formula.

            Consider this, it is pretty commonly accepted that America is moving in the wrong direction (some polls say over 70% believe this)… Since the 1930 when your social security was enacted American has been STEADILY moving towards socialism. In fact, the Government grows more intrusive, each and every year, culminating in the largest socialist program of them all, 0bmacare.

            Doesn’t that mean that moving towards socialism is moving in the wrong direction?

          87. glorybe2 says

            No it does not prove that. First George Washington and the founders were all criminals. They took up arms against their sovereign which is treason. The public was composed of criminals as well. The keeping of slaves, the extermination of Indians, the breaking of treaties were all criminal acts.
            Now the claim that there is justice in the US is nonsense. You have to know that people using public defenders rarely get a fair trial or better said they never get a fair trial. Why? Well they can not make bail and are sometimes held for years before trial. They can not have access to investigators to go back to crime scenes and get opinions about what occurred. They barely get to speak to a lawyer much less get a battery of lawyers the way the rich can. In civil suits it can be next to impossible to get a lawyer unless you have a lot of cash. The legal system has closed its doors to most Americans.

          88. Peatro Giorgio says

            Your claim that great Britain held title to this land is a best preposterous. We were Colonies . The French The British even Spain was laying claim when in fact no one other nation held title to this land. Your just another revisionist of history fool. Think about how stupid you sound. Now to give you some Idea of just how stupid you sound .! Look no further then to India Or north Africa or Canada or Australia. Or lastly to Argentina. Man your truly an F grade student of history . I bet you spent your days in history class passed out from partaking of way to much pot before class. Or was it those acid trips which your still experiencing flash backs from.

          89. glorybe2 says

            Facts don’t bother you one bit do they. The original 13 colonies all pledged their loyalty to the King of England. He was their sovereign. George Washington was a colonel in the British Army but turned on them because no man born in a colony could be promoted to be an English general. Spain did occupy Florida but was not an English colony. In English law one can never change their sovereign. When one is born under a sovereign one remains the property of that sovereign for life. In American law one can renounce a sovereign which establishes the ability to become an American citizen. It is a hinge point in law. For example a man born in Mexico is considered under the sovereignty of Mexico yet he may never have pledged, affirmed or even had knowledge that a Mexican government existed. Oddly that creates a bit of stress in the immigration process.

          90. MAHB001 says

            You must be a Common core prodigy… Your history of America is very negative. This is very sad actually because, liberals must tear down Americas history, in order to “Rebuild America.” I would guess you are a victim of their hate America propaganda. Or maybe you even created the propaganda. Am I talking to a big fish here?

            The Indian’s were not exterminated, yes, there were massacres, but the huge majority died of diseases brought over by the Immigrants from Europe. This was done unintentionally as how diseases were spread was not known at that time.

            I suggest you watch America, what would the world look like without her? by Dinesh D’Souza… With an open mind, otherwise you will be wasting your time.

            I think the data does prove that moving towards socialism is what is meant when people say that America is moving in the wrong direction. There is clear data that shows America trending towards, Bigger Government (higher taxes, more spending), More Socialist programs (obamacare),

            Are we talking about our broken justice system or are we talking about the Countries slow and steady move towards socialism? The justice system has changed too, it is no longer about justice, the entire Government is about CONTROL of the people… That too I attribute to the slow and steady movement towards socialism…

            I would think it be prudent for you to look into the justice systems under some of the communist states like China, North Korea, Russia, or even Cuba before you give up on Americas justice system.

            You advocate for more Socialism, which will bring more corruption than what we experienced in our past.

          91. glorybe2 says

            The American people have never confronted a real history of America. That kind of knowledge is avoided like the plague in school systems. And by the way passing out blankets infested with plagues was a common way to murder tribes into extinction. The deliberate extermination of the buffalo was designed to starve first nations people and cause diseases associated with hunger and that was a deliberate military tactic. It was framed with empty the bread basket and starve them to death. If my memory is correct it was Phil Sheridan who implemented the starvation policy of American Indians. Make note that most Indian tribes now are totally lost in history whereas a few tribes still have survivors.
            There is no need to revise history as our public has never read real history. But other industrial nations view the US entirely differently as far as our history and as to our motives in modern times.

          92. MAHB001 says

            Common core all the way eh? I can see that Americans have lost generations of people to ideological subversion and liberal propaganda coming out of the likes of Howard Zinn….

            I got to ask, in your Zinn teachings were you taught anything good about Capitalism?

            As to why Zinn became a “Historian” Zinn said it wasn’t because history was interesting… it was because and he quoted George Orwell, “Whoever controls the past controls the future, and whoever controls the present controls the past.”

            In the same speech he said that nobody could be objective, and he was careful to not to call himself objective.

            So what we have in Zinn is a self described socialist activist, who got into writing history because whoever controls the past controls the future, and admitted that what he wrote was not objective nor could it ever be objective who coincidentally left out anything good about capitalism….

            That my friend is called conditioning. BTW Zinn in his own words said.

            “So those people who control what we know today, that is the mass media, Government, the Educational system, the text book publishers, the people who control what we know today, are determining our future… Unless we break away from that, unless we get to learn things for ourselves, there is nothing more important than education and breaking away from the authorities, breaking away from the books that are given you, from the things that they have told you from the TV broadcasts that are aimed at you and just going out and looking for yourself, looking in the dark corners of the library, picking out the things that are handed out on street corners, just getting information you can’t get anywhere else.”

            The education system gave you Zinn, the media pukes out Zinn… I suggest you follow Zinn’s advise and start thinking for yourself… Zinn painted a very negative one sided version of history designed to get you to reject America and Capitalism…

          93. glorybe2 says

            Talk about illusions no man is ever in control of anything. We all exist with the rules of nature, fate an chance nipping at us constantly.A young women tried to tell me her doctrine of self determination would assure her success in life. I then asked her what goals she had for her future that she was determined to make come true and she gave me a list. I then asked if i reach under the table and take my pistol and kill you right now what power does your self determination have? She then admitted that we really control nothing at all. One asteroid or one really good solar flare and we are all crispy critters. Can you imagine anyone claiming to be in control or the present, the future or the past? that is real garbage can philosophy.

          94. Peatro Giorgio says

            God is in control.

          95. glorybe2 says

            It looks like God steps back and leaves it up to nature.

          96. MAHB001 says

            I am pretty sure my last post caused you to have an aneurysm or something.

            Why do you get up in the morning?
            I mean if you control nothing, why do you get up?

            I’ll tell you what my self determination would do if you pulled a gun on me, I would fight back, I would show you that you will not have control of me without a fight…

            I can see that my last post was too far out of your reality for you to understand.

            What do you think the rules of nature are?

          97. glorybe2 says

            People get up and function as they have no real choice. People are also able to put reality out of their minds. The dumber they are the easier it is not to be in touch with reality. How many empires have vanished without a trace and we know not the name of even one member of many empires. Yet a man can get up in the morning and feel that he is an important person. It is an illusion. We know from science that our universe has a built in death mechanism. All humans, all records of our existence, all others throughout the universe and even the dust balls we call planets and stars will completely decompose and vanish without any traces at all. We are all fleeting and have no real import at all in nature’s scheme of things. We are quite temporary and all profoundly ignorant. The entire knowledge of all humanity through all the centuries has not glimpsed a fraction of one per cent of knowledge.
            How many people can walk about holding those facts in mind without blowing their brains out?

          98. MAHB001 says

            Horse poop dude, You suffer from stinking thinking. Worst case I have seen in years.. I don’t know who is putting that trash in your brain but you need to quit listening to him/her/it….

            “If you think you can, or you think you can’t, you are absolutely right.”
            ——Henry Ford

            The choice is yours….

          99. glorybe2 says

            You quote Ford and the man was a moral trash pit. His hatred of Jews is well known until one day he found out that Jews can also buy new cars and all of a sudden he reversed his declarations of hatred of Jews. Ford also thought the Third Reich was a fine and dandy way to run a nation.

          100. MAHB001 says

            Your bigotry of everything Capitalism is astounding.

            Do you really think that insults are going to discredit Fords words??

            Listen to the words, If you think you can or you think you can’t, you are absolutely right…. These words have encouraged countless people to succeed in life…

            So capitalism has created evil robots that will make humans efforts worthless, and Socialism seems to be your only answer.

            I am sorry, but that is messed up..

          101. pineapple says

            “People get up and function as they have no real choice.”

            Actually, some people don’t get up and function. Some people just lay on their sorry asses and expect others to take care of them.
            This is how socialism works.

          102. glorybe2 says

            How do you explain nations that are socialist doing one heck of a lot better than we are in the US? People in other nations often do quite nicely under socialism. It can be quite difficult to argue with reality.

          103. pineapple says

            Question: If the U.S. is so bad, why are people from all over the world are risking their lives to get here?

            Question: If you think the socialist countries are so great, why don’t you immigrate to one of them, like North Korea, Cuba, Russia, etc?

            It appears that you are out of touch with “reality.’

          104. jreb57 says

            “How do you explain nations that are socialist doing one heck of a lot better than we are in the US?”
            Because they are not. When our economy gets the sniffles, they get the flu. We rebuilt Europe after WW2, we rebuilt Japan after WW2. South Korea is prosperous, socialist/communist North Korea is not. China owes its success to embracing some capitalism. The Soviet Union went bust in 1990 and is just now beginning to recover somewhat.

          105. jreb57 says

            “People are also able to put reality out of their minds”
            That happened in 2008 and again in 2012..

          106. glorybe2 says

            People can be strong enough to get up in the morning and not create false realities. drug addicts and alcoholics are examples of people who can not deal with reality. Most people exist as tubes. Food in and food out is all that they are.

          107. MAHB001 says

            I’ll agree that some do exist in meaningless existences…

            But not all, we control our destiny…

            If you think you can, or you think you can’t….. You are absolutely right.
            —– Henry Ford

            It is up to you to think you can…

          108. glorybe2 says

            All traces of the existence of the human race is an absolute fact. How much control do you have?

          109. MAHB001 says

            Over your own destiny? You will never know until you try.

            “If you think you can, or you think you can’t, you are absolutely right.”
            —- Henry Ford..

            One of my favorite quotes.,

            REALLY think about it…

          110. glorybe2 says

            Well I woke up and wrestled the Illuminati until I could get to the toilet and then fought off the commies to get to the kitchen and tolerate the vicious Green Party who had kept all the chemicals out of my food and then called the Sierra Club to make sure I was allowed to eat breakfast and then called the Humane Society to ask if I could kill the mouse in my kitchen before I worried about socialism one bit.

          111. MAHB001 says

            See all the diversions that socialism has you running down instead of fighting it?

            It is no wonder the fear of socialism has been reduced…

            Hope you got the go ahead to kill the mouse, they are vermin in a house…

            Upvote for you, as if you care…

          112. pineapple says

            If we are in control of nothing, then we are not in control of ourselves, and can not be blamed for any wrongs that occur, such as starvation, wars, etc.

            You don’t even use specious logic to support your idiotic ideas.

          113. glorybe2 says

            Ok, we had a guy named Whitman who was an exemplary citizen who climbed into a tower in Texas and killed many pedestrians with a rifle. Upon autopsy a large tumor was discovered in his brain. He had no way in the world to control himself. So you can start be realizing that many people are not in control at all. once you get up to speed on that then realize that a fairly small asteroid could determine your future in ways that you could never hope to control that future. Control is an illusion. I’m sorry if that messes with your urge to punish people.

          114. Peatro Giorgio says

            It is true in the sense that some are with out mental control. However that being said it neither negates their responsibility. Or releases them from facing justice; as well receiving just punishment. Period For what is a nation with out justice. What is a nation without moral an ethical standards . With out justice with our both moral an ethics standards with in a nation sovereignty. There exist then only anarchy, Tyranny, it is back to the cave man era. Kill or be killed were the weak parish and only us the strong survive. I an others might like that. For a moment. Then however the reality of our children ,grandchildren, great grandchildren, may very well be in question. My way of thinking may very well not be the same as the majority. Is however quite logical. Convicted of murder,rape ,pedophile, of being a drug lord ,drug dealer, drug pusher, betraying your nation. All these crimes should an would if I were to be crowned king ; Be met with instant death the very day of conviction and on the other side of that coin. If in fact it is found that the prosecution an or the police who investigated these crime uses planted or contrived evidence to convict they to would face instantly upon conviction the very same penalty of instant death. Period. That is called equal justice all facing equal an just penalties. But that’s me. For all is far in both love an war.

          115. glorybe2 says

            If you think justice happens in this world you are too far gone to help.

          116. glorybe2 says

            If you really try to define responsibility you will have a problem. Responsibility boils down to being able to respond and many people are unable to respond. usually responsibility is really used to say that a person was near to an event or situation.

          117. glorybe2 says

            Well if it gives you comfort to blame people who am i to object? But in reality no person is ever in control of anything. Healthy people tend to be happy and follow rules. Unhealthy people tend to do really bad things. Nature does more evil things than people ever will.

          118. glorybe2 says

            Being 71 years old i never had the so called common core courses. Hey maybe the common core is trying to take over our nation!

          119. MAHB001 says

            Wow, 71? Would never have guessed. Sorry for the misplaced insult. You truly are an enigma to me. I will try to be more respectful.

            Common Core is an attempt to centralize our education… The same way Hitler and Stalin did. Common Core actually controls the curriculum by controlling the tests. It was written in DC, by lobbyists under the guise of the National Governors Association… Which is nothing more than a lobby group..

            It is very dangerous to hand the education of our youth over to the Central Government. Which is something Communists do very well.

          120. glorybe2 says

            I do understand the nature of common core. One aspect of common core education is an effort to discover which schools are not doing a good job. If various schools offer entirely different courses it makes if impossible to evaluate the quality of the schools. Without common testing lousy schools can remain lousy schools. i don’t know about today but in the past we had rural counties that failed to offer courses such as algebra, trig., or calculus under the claim that children from their counties had no need for such studies as they would be part of the local farming or timber industries. That seems logical and is true for many of those youngsters. But it had a savage side effect. A few of those kids wanted to go to college and with such a substandard high school education they could not be admitted to any decent college. With common core those schools get labeled as defective and it tends to force such school districts to join the real world rather than their local, near sighted view of the world.

          121. MAHB001 says

            What you say may be all well and good. I too think it a good idea to track and monitor the important things. That is the only way you can see progress, and correct when necessary.

            But, unfortunately, I believe that the POLITICIANS only say that stuff because they know it sounds good.. I believe that their true intent is to brainwash and control the people.

            “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”

            I believe socialists have taken over lofty positions within, both political parties, Unions, Schools, Courts, Big Business and more.

            Our Government is racing towards socialism, which will fall to communism, which will have a dictator, who will in turn kill all who oppose…

            When people say the Government is going in the wrong direction… That is what they are talking about.

          122. glorybe2 says

            In all seriousness we really are about to lose the concept of human employment. People who drive for a living will soon be eliminated. Robots already perform some surgeries. School teachers are also being phased out right now. The point being that anything resembling capitalism can not exist alongside advanced technology. No workers equals no buyers. The only know forms of government that can exist are either a all encompassing dictatorship which nobody wants or socialism, which can actually work quite well. Right now we are seeing entire trades on the verge of elimination and the pace of advanced technology is going to accelerate. 3D printing will eliminate so many millions of workers it will make you gasp. Entire homes can now be 3d printed and they can be superior homes in every way.

          123. Peatro Giorgio says

            Well if man kind becomes irrelevant. Then so does all forms of governance. For what form of government need there be . Man kind would revert back to only the strong will survive. The weak , the cowardly ,the timid , the lazy ,the noncontributing losers would all parish. Which of course would be of great benefit to Human kind. The very first to go would be those whom now promote, promulgate, socialism, communism. In other words many on this Web site.

          124. glorybe2 says

            Actually if society collapses you tend to end up with bands of savage pirate like bands who kill off many stronger and more able folks in order to dominate a region. Collapse of civilization is not an option.

          125. glorybe2 says

            Do you fail to understand that the earth will vanish without a trace? The galaxy will also vanish and the universe itself will cease to exist. The meaningfulness of the human race is very temporary. And even sooner none of us will be remembered at all. Thousands of civilizations have come and gone and in many cases we do not know that they ever existed. In other cases we may know one name out of a civilization that may have lasted fro 1,000 years. All of these civilizations had laws, beliefs, traditions, and religions. And often we have not a single clue about anything at all concerning them. Most humans can not deal with such things at all. they stumble about, dumb as a rock, pretending that all kinds of things are true and that these things have a mighty meaning. If the US exists five hundred years from now having an economy will be some ancient concept seemingly important to primitives.

          126. Peatro Giorgio says

            Your assuming that the world shall not devolve rather then evolve.. I prefer devolution. Primitive life styles are uniquely wonderful. Filled with self reliance, independence.personal responsibility. I’m prepared those who I love are well prepared. Giving up what? Nothing one cannot do with out. The strong shall thrive an the weak shall parish. O please let it be so.

          127. glorybe2 says

            Open your Bible and find the beatitudes. Then try to hold your words up next to them and tell me that you are a Christian.
            Simply do a Google search on “beatitudes” if you want the information quickly. You know. The meek shall inherit the earth sort of thing.

          128. Peatro Giorgio says

            You who profess to be of great knowledge. Haven’t the slightest clue or hint of even knowing what the term meek ; means with in the construct of Beatitudes. Clue it means those whom humble themselves before the Lord. They shall inherit the Earth.

          129. MAHB001 says

            Yet, the left insists on things like raising the minimum wage, which only makes the technology more cost effective….

            Robots will not replace humans in our lifetime.. Beyond that, I think humans need to work. They need the sense of accomplishment. Working is good for the soul. It is necessary, it gives people purpose. Seeing that reproduction is now an option.

            I disagree with you that “the only known forms of Government that can exist are either an all encompassing dictatorship or socialism, which can actually work quite well.”

            How did you come to that conclusion?

            What about the Great Experiment, the United States???
            The U.S. really worked rather well until socialism, crony capitalism (same thing), and corruption took hold.

          130. glorybe2 says

            With luck the US will exist. But our entire mode of living will change no matter what we do. People are in deep denial but human labor is becoming obsolete. What is technology and what is the goal of technology. For thousands of years humans have developed technologies for one purpose. Technology makes life easier with less labor. As technology advances we eliminate more and more human effort. But we are now at the toggle point. Technology is accelerating at unbelievable speeds. Many wrist watches have more computing power than we had when we put men on the moon. Robotics and drone technology, with the aid of computer power are on the cutting edge of elimination of all human labor. Now dwell on that for a while. The economy as we now know it can no longer exist. Traditional issues are dead meat. For sixty years we have had all kinds of dialogue and strife over foreign labor being cheap compared to American labor. That issue is dead meat. Now can a US robot work better and cheaper than Chinese robot? Seriously, think about that question.

          131. MAHB001 says

            Do you not agree that our form of Government is by far at greater risk to collapsing to communism before humans lose their jobs to machines?

            I view your fear as more of a distraction than one that should be taken seriously.. Although I see what you are talking about, you might as well put me in the denial category.

            My greatest concern is not what machines will do to humanity, it is what a dictator will do to humanity if the liberal socialist succeed in overturning the Constitution and implementing socialist/communist rule…

            Socialism and dictatorship are NOT the only options, as I see socialism no different than a dictatorship. Our Government under the original constitution, that is without the crony capitalism that the politicians have inserted into it is far better than any other Government out there. History has proven that.

          132. glorybe2 says

            No I do not agree at all. We are already feeling the effects of technology eliminating human employment. And the dance is getting faster and faster. The training needed to have reasonable employment is becoming greater and greater. The real take home pay for most workers is getting smaller and smaller without even considering taxation. One of my neighbors has a child with two classes now being taught by computer with no teacher in the room at all. Seriously, can you see one eighth grade history teacher being piped into every eighth grade classroom in America? One huge battle we are about to face is that families who can afford to have a parent or caretaker at home can educate their child with computer courses with no need for schools at all. Poor families will not normally have that option. So from the middle class and up these folks will not want to spend a penny of taxes fro traditional brick and mortar school buildings or teachers. right now most college computer courses are nonsense and expensive. Yet we could have almost free computer college courses that are excellent and for most majors eliminate campuses entirely. In the next five years we will see so much turmoil it can’t even be described or well predicted. Driver less cars are already functioning and serious money is being spent to make them better and more common. People who drive for a living need to get another trade. The media are loaded with reports of this sort of thing but like global warming people are in deep denial. When a drone delivers a pizza to some peoples’ homes those people may not really be able to admit that drones are really quite common now.

          133. MAHB001 says

            I am all for home schooling. The school system has been corrupted via common core. There is no safer place for a child than with his/her family.

            In one sentence you condemn computer classes and in the next you praise computer classes

          134. glorybe2 says

            My point is that disruption and strife will take place. I am not either for or against computer education. first we will have loads of out of work teachers and professors. Poor people will want even better traditional schools where as people with more money will be against any traditional schooling existing at all. We will also need state and federal laws and agencies stopping the sham school nonsense. Right now people are spending a fortune on computer colleges that are in no way recognized and their degrees are meaningless or even worse than meaningless as a potential employer may wonder how one could be such a fool to pay for these nonsense, so-called online colleges.

          135. glorybe2 says

            Suppose you were offered a job that pays well in Tunica Mississippi. Suppose you have two school age kids. Before you accept the job you want to know about the educational prowess of public schools in Tunica. Guess what! Common Core testing results will tell you exactly how good the schools in Tunica are compared to the city in which you currently live. In my generation the elementary schools in Tunica were way ahead of the schools in Ft. lauderdale,Fl.. But we had no way to know that back then other than to make a leap of faith.

          136. MAHB001 says

            Common Core controls the curriculum through the testing..

            Do you understand why we do not want our central Government to control what our children are taught???

            Think back to Hitlers youth and you will understand where I am coming from. Or..

            “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”

            Home School your children now… Or subject them to Government indoctrination.

          137. jreb57 says

            “Common Core testing results will tell you exactly how good the schools
            in Tunica are compared to the city in which you currently live”
            No, it will just tell you how well the students did and that depends on many things.

          138. glorybe2 says

            Teachers aim their teachings at the bulk of the students. If the students tend to be poor and from disadvantaged homes it shows up in their testing. Colleges have taken the quality of the high school at which an applicant graduates in order to view their performance more clearly for generations. If you come from a top notch high school and have high grades you get admitted. If you come from a lousy school and get good grades you may not be admitted. In a way that is unfair as a scholar may have no limits. We can not truly know how far above the herd he is as we do not have grades above A. But it is the system we have always lived with.

          139. jreb57 says

            “The point being that anything resembling capitalism can not exist alongside advanced technology”
            That is just ridiculous. What do you think developed the advanced technology? It was not the government. For example, Ford profited the most from the development of the assembly line.

          140. Peatro Giorgio says

            One minor point Colt firearms manufacturer . Was utilizing the assembly line system in 1865, 40 years before Ford

          141. glorybe2 says

            Serial assembly line surely date back into antiquity. What made ford stand out was the invention of the cross feed assembly line. Cross feed lines vastly improve efficiency.

          142. glorybe2 says

            You went back five generations to use Ford as an example. Current technology is replacing human labor at an ever accelerating rate. Are you aware that some surgeries are now performed by robots? And funnier yet those robot surgeons get better results than operations done by surgeons. Over the next ten to fifteen years i would not be shocked if 99% of surgeries were done by robots. The McDonald’s hamburger chain is about to go robotic. A store will still have one or two humans on duty for now. If you have been in Wall Mart store recently you surely have seen that almost no cashiers exist. It won’t be long before the stock boy jobs are done by machines either.

          143. jreb57 says

            Every time a new technology is developed it creates new, higher paying jobs. Robots don’t just magically appear and they don’t do their work unsupervised. They also require maintenance. The proper use of technology increases efficiency so that fewer workers can get more done. These machines also must be programmed and the program must be updated. I did this for a living, maintaining and installing and updating electronic equipment. It is called engineering.

          144. glorybe2 says

            I was working with very advanced robotic arms from IBM and Hitachi way back in 1985. Our units went to universities to train engineers. Back then they were a lot more complex than today. We furnished robotic conveyors with automated lathes and mills feeding assembly robots. Each machine had entirely different programming so intermediate computers had to be used for every machine, including the intelligent conveyor. Back then keeping these machines running did require specialized help. Meanwhile Japanese robots were superior for industry and they tended to run off of cam shafts instead of computers. They used quite a few primitive robots to do a task while we wanted to use one robot to do all things. But now things are quite different. Kids can run a robot using a raspberry Pi. Computers are far more advanced and machines can keep running for quite some time without much human attention at all. The loss of jobs is stunning. Combined with items like the five axis, water cutting tools, the machinist need not be particularly skilled to create endless complex shapes. One computer program can be placed on tens of thousands of machines. And the catch is that the rate of acceleration is increasing. We have reached a toggle point. Right now there is a bridge in New Zealand being created by a 3D printer. Homes are already being printed. We are about to have an unbelievable change in human relationships. I was in Mississippi in 1951 and saw first hand what happened when traditional farm labor was eliminated by machines. What the public never heard about was some of the plantations deliberately not using technology on some of their land so that field workers would still have a few jobs. The poverty created was unbelievable as formerly almost all residents in certain counties had worked in the fields.
            When we sent aid to India in the form of tractors, fertilizer and pest control chemicals millions starved to death as they suddenly became unemployed in a nation, that in that era, depended upon farm labor for its economy and social stability. The unemployed could not buy the food that technology made available.

          145. Peatro Giorgio says

            Can be superior is the key word. How ever all things being equal. Construction wise a Log cabin is by far more superior in many ways. Strength, stability, insulating properties and in earth quack resistances. Lodge cabin technology has been around for over 600 years. This information brought to you by one who has worked in the construction industry for many years. Even with today’s advancements in single family home building most if not the majority are built to minimum standards. In all regions. Actual minimum construction codes are uniform through out the US. BOCA National uniform Building codes..

          146. jreb57 says

            “One aspect of common core education is an effort to discover which schools are not doing a good job”
            That I agree with but that is up to the local board of education if they do the job correctly. There are standards that must be met.

          147. jreb57 says

            Glorybe is a youngster at 71. I am 76. He was likely taught by rote as common core wants to do. I was taught by logical process as were most successful engineers. As you pointed out, the central government of Russia closely controlled what was taught, including the re writing of history..

          148. glorybe2 says

            Actually people trained in engineering are educationally deprived. The psycopathy index of engineers indicates that engineers are not socially adapted and due to far less training in liberal arts areas are educationally inadequate. Dealing with life and other people is far more complex than the reverse Polish notation in your TI calculators.

          149. jreb57 says

            “Actually people trained in engineering are educationally deprived”
            Liberal arts is mostly BS. It might be fancy BS, but BS none the less, full of sound and fury signifying nothing. You tend to emote rather than think.

          150. glorybe2 says

            Capitalism can not be partial. It demands to be exclusively the only method in play. Pass just one law, rule or tax that applies to commerce and the free market vanishes. Capitalism is founded on the free market yet no free market has ever existed. The concept of capitalism is a trick used to deceive those that fail to define things with precision. If you want to compare it to another issue consider laws about owning or carrying firearms. We have all kinds of people involved in the minutia of firearms possession when that is not the real issue at all. The real issue is the right to shoot. Our founders did not think of a gun as jewelry. They clearly knew that a gun was used to hunt animals or kill people. The very idea of gun carry is to be able to shoot people who are out of line. But that debate will not occur because people have been recruited to join in false debates which keeps them away from the real issue which is essentially the right to kill.

          151. Peatro Giorgio says

            So how stupid can one be. For you or anyone to claim socialism in this nation has worked out pretty well. Is truly blind to the obvious facts. Ask your self this question. If socialism is so good why is our education systems ls failing. ? Why is our social security system near bankrupt ? why is Medicaid close to bankrupt? why is Obama no care failing ? and in a rather dramatic Fashion I might add.. Why are Unions on the verge of ending. ?Why is our national debt on the verge of destroying our economy. ? Why are we national as well among the many liberal socialist states running such extreme deficits. ? Why ,why, why, It isn’t because we have remained a capitalist nation
            No on the Contrary it is because we have a nation of slought like noncontributing, takers , who want everything for nothing.

          152. glorybe2 says

            When the New World was discovered we had endless assets and a small population. That created wealth. As our nation grew we depleted resources while our population went through the roof. We also accumulated more and more debts due to wars, retirements, law suits and contracts that bore interest. In doing so we reduced the ease with which people could make a living. So we now have bad schools, not so good health care, and a public that simply has little hope of saving money for old age. Again, all nations die. It is the normal and expected course of events. It has nothing to do at all with politics or who runs a nation. Kings fall. Dictators fall. Socialist governments fail, republics fail. Communist nations also fail. Try to name any nation that has lasted 500 years without a revolution, being taken by another nation or having a rebellion that completely changes the nature of a nation. All of the American public should be intelligent and educated enough to understand that all nations have always failed.

          153. Peatro Giorgio says

            The industrialized nation created wealth. Not the size of our population . What occurred during those days of prosperity, was One very important and directly related an responsible for the down fall of our nation. And that was the liberalized social welfare system . Protected civil service jobs , the unionnazation which began taking root in the early 1920 which has continued to present day. The only means of our nations salvation is by means of total and complete rejection of the welfare state. Bring back the era of personal responsibility. Local charity. People helping people with out the intervention of Government. This is the only way to save our nation and it’s people.

          154. MAHB001 says

            Glorybe2 seems to be blind intentionally.

            One can not woken when one is pretending to be asleep.

          155. glorybe2 says

            You are blind to history. As a young nation we could not compete with either England or Europe with industries. What we could do is sell lumber and other natural products as well as sell farm goods to England and Europe. In 1860 the ownership of slaves was the second largest deposit of wealth a person could have. The greatest item was land. As the south had so much wonderful farm land and a better growing season that the northern states with the cash value of slaves also adding to the economic power of the south that the balance of wealth was in the south. Money means you can greatly control a government to the issue was who would be in control of the nation. If they eliminated slavery they would rob the south of great wealth and they would also make it impossible to farm on the large plantations in the south further robbing the south of their economic status and of power in government as a response the Confederacy was formed. But as far as industry even in 1860 the US nor the Confederacy had reasonable industrial strength. We changed our abilities in industry as WW2 began to involve us more and more.

          156. Peatro Giorgio says

            You are a freaking idiot . Here’s a point for you to consider the industrial complex started with firms like colt firearms in the early 1860 you idiot they mass produced on assemble lines the Patterson revolvers. They were not the only industries in the north to do so . The industrial revolution began in the 1860 and increased through the 1870 with browsing and Winchester and the first auto mobile in the late 1890 . You are either a liar or dumb as a brick your choice. But certainly you haven’t the foggiest idea of just what your talking about. And you certainly do not have any understanding of American history.

          157. jreb57 says

            “In 1860 the ownership of slaves was the second largest deposit of wealth a person could have”
            Actually the slaves were worth more than the land. That is why a war was fought. That is also why it took the south so long to recover. The land remained but it was not until farms were mechanized that they became very profitable.

          158. jreb57 says

            “Why ,why, why, It isn’t because we have remained a capitalist nation”
            It is because we are going in the wrong direction.

          159. Will says

            We citizens live in a land of soft tyranny right now. Soviet style tyranny seems inevitable.

          160. MAHB001 says

            If the liberals get our guns, it will be inevitable.

          161. glorybe2 says

            Where in the world do you get these insane conspiracy notions?

          162. Will says

            The NWO is esentially elite banking families and old european royal families (maybe there was only one, very incestuous family). The NWO loves the islamic terrorists because of their tyranny of lands they invade and conquer. They actually supported Stalin for the same reason. Islamics do the dirty work for NWO families. I have only heard of one of rothschild family (the current patriarch) who is luciferian (but suspect that the entirety of the conspirators are as well given the elite owned entertainment media) as stated by Stanley Kubric who was invited to a party at their home, and was so grossed out by the occult acts, that he had to leave. There is no Allah, but there is definitely a lucifer. When (not if) the whole world is under a world government, it will be satanic, not islamic. I know what you are thinking, I mean satan will openly demand worship of the beast (the beast may well be islam, but) satan will own it all, right up to the judgment.

          163. glorybe2 says

            You have a point but one flaw in capitalism is that it so easily gets converted into situations such as crony capitalism. Eventually you must conclude that capitalism is a sham in itself. As a concept it is so easily sold to those incapable of complex thought processes. The body count for capitalism exceeds the body count of socialism or communist nations.

          164. MAHB001 says

            Why do you have to conclude that Capitalism is a sham in itself?

            How can you say that the body count of Capitalism exceeds the body count of socialism/communism nations???

            I am truly interested in your math…

          165. pineapple says

            While you are at it, don’t forget to add the victims of Stalin, Castro, Mao, and the communist dictator of North Korea where starvation is common.

          166. MAHB001 says

            It seems glorybe2 has forgotten that socialism/communism is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths…..

            How do you argue with that kind of ignorance?

          167. AKLady says

            So was America.

            How do you argue with that ignorance?

          168. glorybe2 says

            Do you not suppose that the US has been responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths?

          169. MAHB001 says

            No I don’t.

            I see the U.S. as being responsible for saving hundreds of millions of lives.

            With great power comes great responsibility.

          170. AKLady says

            Hunger and malnutrition are frequent occurances in America.
            Starvation takes place as well.
            You just refuse to believe it.

          171. pineapple says

            With over 46 million receiving food stamps, there is no excuse for starvation nor malnutrition. You just refuse to believe it.

            Cybercast News ServiceBy Ali Meyer | January 13, 2015 | 9:24 AM EST. (AP File Photo). ( … Food stamp recipients have exceeded 46 million since September 2011.

          172. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss.

            Food stanps must be applied for. Where does one apply?

            How does one get to a city agency when they have no car?
            How does one get to a city agency when there is no bus service?
            How does someone know about such benefits if they have no electricity?
            How does someone know about such benefits if they have no TV?
            How does someone know about such benefits if they cannot read or write?…

            Dear pineeapple, your ignorance of extreme poverty in American even surpasses the size of your ego.

          173. pineapple says

            If your post is true, how did 46 million people figure out how to sign up? DUH!

            If your brains were nylon, there wouldn’t be enough to make a pair of panties for a piss ant.

            BTW, please learn to spell.

          174. AKLady says

            You might want to increase your reading conprehension. You might also want to look up facts. Selfimposed ignorance is incredably sad.

            The individuals I spoke about in the earlier post have not signed up for any type of public assistence. Many do not know that help exists. They could not use SNAP benefits if they had them there are no supermarkets where they live.

            There are roughly 326,000,000 people in the U.S. Millions of Americans live in extreme poverty. The World Bank defines extreme poverty as living on less than $1.25 a day.

            Texas, Alabama, New Mexico, Lousiana and Mississippi are the states with the most people living in extreme poverty.

            One of these days, a miracle may happen I may become a good typist.
            Until then, you are free to insult all you want.

            For an insult to be effective, the target must value your opinion.
            You see, pineapple, your opinion has absolutely no value to me.

          175. glorybe2 says

            The state of Mississippi is a great example of just why items like the constitution can not be taken seriously. The entire state of Mississippi was an Indian reservation divided into five areas to serve five different tribes. When the US decided to break its word and take the reservations Andrew Jackson was assigned to clear Mississippi of Indians. The Supreme Court ordered that that was illegal and forbid that action. By executive order Jackson went on the march and attacked the Creek Indians complete with the usual murder of women, the elderly, children and babies. Jackson eventually became president of the US. Now just how much is the solemn word of the US worth? Do you think that you are safe than any of those Indians?

          176. glorybe2 says

            Are you aware that former convicts can not receive food stamps? Many people are excluded for various reasons even though they go hungry.

          177. pineapple says

            Former convicts should have to work for their food, just as I do.

            Also, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote, as Obama is going to allow them to.

          178. glorybe2 says

            We do need convicts being able to vote. For one thing it can dull some of the idiotic policies regarding funding and running of prisons.

          179. pineapple says

            “We do need convicts being able to vote.”

            This way they can vote for plush prisons to await them when they return to prison.

            BTW the funding of prisons can be reduced by implementing the death penalty.
            It is a sure cure for recidivism.

          180. jreb57 says

            “For one thing it can dull some of the idiotic policies regarding funding and running of prisons.”
            More than likely it would fuel the idiocy.

          181. glorybe2 says

            The US has a punitive prison system that is a huge failure. Nations that fund their prison systems and offer serious rehabilitation are getting far better results and a lot more bang for their tax dollars. It makes zero sense to put someone in a super max prison and drive them crazy as a June bug and full of rage and then release them onto the streets. And don’t think we put the worst of the worst in super max prisons as people charged with trivial crimes get stuck in them when bed space is available.

          182. Peatro Giorgio says

            The best method of handling over crowded super max prisons is to tell the convicts they are free to go an as they walk out the front door with a smile on their stupid faces Put a 308 bullet to the back of their cranium s . Simple quick inexpensive. Solves three problems. 1st problem They won’t be commuting any other crimes. 2nd problem . We will have reduced the annual cost of prisons Third. Our judicial system we be afford more time to focus on other new cases. 4th we shall have a more free,fair,safe an just society.

          183. glorybe2 says

            I know. And just after you publish such a blood thirsty rant you will claim to be a devout follower of Jesus Christ. He will no know you.

          184. Peatro Giorgio says

            It appears you know nothing about Christ. Christ spoke of forgiveness. How ever He also spoke of obeying those appointed over you. He also said Give on to Ceasars What is Ceasars. Neither had He condemned corporal punishment. Forgiveness has absolutely nothing what’s so ever to do with releasing one free from punishment. But I would not expect a non believer to know or Comprehend God’s word. Final Judgement is Before the Lord earthly judgment is here on earth.

          185. glorybe2 says

            Name one person that Christ wanted to be punished by anyone other than God. Instructions to obey civil laws were uttered in order to save the lives of Christians. It did not imply that the government was not a vile tyrant. The Jews in Christ’s time lived under the boots of the Roman legions. Christ had every desire to destroy the power of Rome totally. Sending all the money back to Caesar would have collapsed the empire. Think of what would happen if every US citizen sent back all the money to our government. Total collapse would take place.

          186. Peatro Giorgio says

            Ah yes how very naive of you. Here’s just a tiny sample of Christ with Peter. On the Day the Temple ,Guards came to arrest Christ. Peter drew his sword an to what was Christ response to Peter. Well Christ sad Peter put away your Sword this day is In the Fathers hand. Christ did not instruct Peter to cast or throw away his sword.
            O how the little ones misunderstand Christ. They hear what ever it is which tickles their ears. Much like your self. You read what you wish to see and see not The Fathers words . Pity you.

          187. jreb57 says

            “It makes zero sense to put someone in a super max prison and drive them crazy as a June bug”
            They are already crazy as a June bug. That is why they are there. They are found guilty by people just like you and me. I suppose you have served on a jury? If not, why not?

          188. glorybe2 says

            I’ve been called for jury duty five times. In four of those events I sat with several hundred people waiting to be assigned to a trial for a week. I was never asked a single question or interviewed in any way. It represented a waste of my time as well as an expense as I had to drive and pay for parking as well as lunch while I lingered about. Fortunately my company paid me for jury duty and the courts allowed $20. per day. Frankly they never put me on a jury as in most cases i consider putting a man in jail more evil than the crime he committed to be put on trial.

          189. jreb57 says

            “i consider putting a man in jail more evil than the crime he committed to be put on trial.”
            They will not put you on a jury if you declare ahead of time that you have already reached a decision. That is called prejudice. I commend you for being honest about your prejudice.

          190. glorybe2 says

            No prosecutor would think to ask about whether a person has feelings about putting people in prison. Their questions are more oblique than that. These days prosecutors are much like the general public and think they are clever psychologists. They seek a god, mom and apple pie type of juror and try to guess how a juror might react. They assume that most people will go along with the usual patterns that they have seen in jurors in the past. So i can be perfectly honest and still serve on a jury. For me to put a person in jail I will have to feel that our jails are responsible and protect an inmate and offer real rehabilitation. If people are getting raped and stabbed in our prisons why should anyone on the outside not be raped or stabbed or murdered?

          191. Peatro Giorgio says

            One quick and simple solution . Catchum, killum,

          192. jreb57 says

            “If people are getting raped and stabbed in our prisons why should anyone on the outside not be raped or stabbed or murdered?”
            Because that is the reason they are in prison in the first place…they have broken the law. The purpose of prison is to separate the felon from his victim, not to rehabilitate. Rehabilitation is up to the individual. You can lead a horse to water, you cannot make him drink. You can, however, make him wish he had.

          193. Peatro Giorgio says

            The quickest an easiest way to resolve that issue is to place one hot fast bullet to the brain. Save on space save on revenues. Save time for the guards to better serve the prison.

          194. Peatro Giorgio says

            The only failure I can see is the failure to utilize Firing squads. Immediately after conviction. Right at sunrise. Rapist dead pedophiles dead. Murders dead ,drug lords dead,drug dealers dead,drug pushers dead. Second time being caught illegally in our country dead. Those whom choose to vote illegally 2 or more times dead. Those whom choose to ballet stuff Dead.. Aids infected homos dead. Those whom betray their oaths of office dead, Prosecutors who falsify evidence or hide evidence which would exonerate the accused an falsely convict . Dead. Justices who choose to legislate from the bench instead of diligently interpreting either the Constitution or the law Dead. Those whom steal use other’s identification in order to steal from those individuals dead. If I were king for a month O how empty the prisons would be. O what savings our nations people would experience Reduced cost all the way around .

          195. glorybe2 says

            In addition to the slaughter of millions of black people the US seems to be perpetually involved in war or military actions. In addition to the enemies killed in every conflict the civilians killed probably exceeds the soldiers killed. We also deprive other nations of their wealth and prevent many areas from flourishing which costs lives. We continuously ignore horrors that take place in many third world nations if the color of the people is a bit darker than white Americans. Notice how we commit forces into regions in which we have heavy financial interests but could give a fig about other nations. You do not see the US committing troops to Nigeria or the Congo when mass slaughters go on year after year. Yet any trouble near an oil well gets immediate military aid fro the US. Our policies cause millions upon millions of deaths both directly and indirectly all over the world. Case in point might be just why we do not completely get out of the Arab nations? Oh! But all that oil is there.

          196. MAHB001 says

            OMG— Your post was worse than expectations…. You have zero knowledge or understanding of history… I am sorry to say this but you are dangerously ignorant…

            Dictators are the source the greatest body counts in history. NOT CAPITALISM. In order to rule, they maintain with an iron fist, killing all that oppose.

            Socialism requires a dictator, and always falls to communism, which has built in dictators and elite..

            10. Yakubu Gowon (1.1 million deaths) Nigeria
            9. Mengistu Haile Mariam (400,000 – 1.5 million deaths) Ethopia
            8. Kim Il Sung (1.6 million deaths) North Korea
            7. Pol Pot (1.7 million deaths) Cambodia
            6. Ismail Enver Pasha (2.5 million deaths) Turkey
            5. Hideki Tojo (5 million deaths) Japan
            4. Leopold II of Belgium (2-15 million deaths)
            3. Adolf Hitler (17 million deaths) Germany
            2. Jozef Stalin (23 million deaths) Russia
            1. Mao Zedong (49-78 million deaths) China

            Note that the top three killers of mankind have been socialists….


          197. Obie Miller says

            I am pretty sure that glorybe2 has not been reading the information from John Stormer. the John Birch society, the federalist papers,Etc. that we have been privy to.

          198. MAHB001 says

            The sad thing is that glorybe2 rejects all posts that do not support his/her ideology…
            He/she is a very dangerous person, who fights to remove all our rights and subject us to socialism/communism.

          199. AKLady says

            You are a very dangerious person.
            Your rants screams totalitarian rule
            Everyone who does not agree with you is either a socialis or a communist.

          200. MAHB001 says

            All you have to do is prove me wrong, and I will modify my positions. My “Rants” are only effective because I have not been proven wrong… I am a reasonable person, prove me wrong.

            To date, your insults have not proven me wrong. I actually find hope that you fear totalitarian rule as so do I.

            Communism is totalitarian rule. Socialism on earth is totalitarianism rule.

            The liberals that control the MEDIA, Schools, Courts, Both Political parties, Unions, and many Big Businesses, is very close to totalitarian rule….

          201. AKLady says

            Feelings of persecution and an exaggerated sense of self-importance.
            Intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion.
            A high capacity to annoy or enrage others …

          202. glorybe2 says

            Actually your own words have proven you wrong over and over again. Why do you think that the radical right is such a tiny and poor group? You can’t even have one TV network as no one will support such a thing and you know it.

          203. MAHB001 says

            ????????? radical right is such a tiny and poor group?????
            who told you that???

            None of us has a TV network….

          204. AKLady says

            The glorious Koch founded John Birch Society.

            The society opposed the 1960s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had Communists in important positions. The society opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, claiming it violated the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped individual states’ rights to enact laws regarding civil rights.

            The John Birch Society accused Eisenhower of treason.
            The Society is a group of very ignorant, bigoted, hate-filled people.
            Suggest you listen to the song “The John Birch Society” by the Chad Mitchell Trio.


          205. jreb57 says

            Robert Welch founded the John Birch society and ran it for a good while. He was criticized by a well known conservative, William F Buckley.

          206. AKLady says

            Welch was one of the founders.

          207. glorybe2 says

            Yes and Buckley was by his own public admission at times a CIA agent.

          208. jreb57 says

            So what if Buckley was CIA? The bad guys were KGB.

          209. jreb57 says

            If the constitution had been followed, no civil rights effort would have been needed.

          210. AKLady says

            That is a false statement.
            Your history is sorely lacking.
            People of cokor were bought and sold in this country.
            Even America’s FIrst People were not considered entirely “human”.

          211. glorybe2 says

            Well good for me. The John Birch Society was such a notorious dog pit that it had to shut down. Other than learning to be a racist the Birch society was for idiots.

          212. AKLady says


            When did Hong Kong become Communist?

            How abou5t tthese countries: India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, New Zealand …..

            Suggest you take a look at those countries that provide universal health coverag.


          213. jreb57 says

            “When did Hong Kong become Communist?”
            On July 1, 1997 Hong Kong was turned over China from Britain. China is a communist country.

          214. AKLady says

            Hong Kong is the same as it always has been.
            The territory became a special administrative region of China with a high degree of autonomy. Hong Kong remains the The 45th-largest economy in the world.

          215. pineapple says

            “China was not, is not foolish enough to kill the goose that lays golden eggs.”

            Even though that goose is CAPITALIST?

            Your posts contain either illogicality or no logic at all.

          216. AKLady says

            How old are you?

            Not very, that is for sure.

            ‘To kill the Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs’ is an idiom used of an unprofitable action motivated by greed. It refers to one of Aesop’s Fables, numbered 87 in the Perry Index.

          217. Peatro Giorgio says

            ” Fact ” that Hong Kong was permitted to become a Capitalistic region has enabled all of china to grow economically. In fact it is the very reason for China’s prospering. Capitalism works socialism,an Communism have been tried, tested in many regions and many nations .It has always failed and it shall always fail. For the truth is when everyone is payed so very modestly,housed in the most modest of means. Given sustenance of such humble means, Given lousy health care at its lowest form , treated as working animals equally, with no means to advance or increase in ones own life .What need is there in putting forth extra effort. ! When ones desires are diminished to the point of breaking. When the fruits of ones labor is spread out through a collective with out their input and with out being asked and with out their say so.?. When Humanity is all with out hope ! From where will the individual seek or look to become greater then what he or she? What reason is there to excel, when the fruits of your labor are taken from you by force.?? Given over to those whom have not earned it??? When those whom live under such tyranny live a mere existence. ! Morons ,deadbeats consider this good an think it good .But it is the morons and deadbeats who are not the contributors who are not the ones willing to work to earn. No the ones whom consider Communism and socialism as good. They are the non contributors the lazy, the slobbingly the sloughs . Those are the promoters of Communism an socialism. The best of humanity arises when men are free to aspire to higher challenges, to reach for the unreachable , to go where they dare not go, to reach the unreachable star.To shine brightly. To pursue ones own dreams only occurs in the ages of free men . Communism an socialism are in fact dead ends. There purpose is of course is for the Gains of so very few. And ” NOT ” for the prosperity of all . Free Capitalism Lifts up all. And has proven its purpose in those nation that have allow it to grow . We as a nation’s people have failed to recognize the vast difference between crony capitalism and genuine capitalism. There is a huge difference. When we once again return to a true free capitalist nation. This next election cycle Our boat will once again right its self .

          218. AKLady says

            Fact: Hong Kong was a capitalistic nation while it was still part of Great Britan. One of the requirements for its return to China was that it remain “economically” free.

            Once upon a time, the U.S. had the best health care in the world. That is no longer factually true. What is true is that the U.S. has the best healthcare that “money can buy”.

            If you approve of letting people suffer and die because they are poor, I feel very sad for you. It is a prime example of someone without ethics.

          219. jreb57 says

            “China was not, is not foolish enough to kill the goose that lays golden eggs”
            Communism has not worked for China. They are now being educated, but Hong Kong’s capitalism exists at the whim of China’s communist government. Hong Kong is not as it always was.

          220. AKLady says

            Hong Kong remains capitalist. China is not likely to kill the goose thay lays golden eggs. Hong Kong’s legal system is completely independent from the legal system of mainland China. The Programme for International Student Assessment ranked Hong Kong’s education system as the second best in the world.
            Don’t ask where the U.S. ranked. YOu really do not want to know.

          221. MAHB001 says

            Nigeria, Ethopia, North Korea, Cambodia, Turkey, Japan, Germany, Russia, and China should be example enough.

            As you well know there is a sliding scale, on one end is Socialism, on the other end is Capitalism.. You can not get to pure socialism without going through Communism. And no Country has made it past Communism.


          222. jreb57 says

            “And no Country has made it past Communism.”
            Somehow the state just refuses to wither away. If you ask a Communist, he will tell you that socialism is a good start.

          223. glorybe2 says

            When the Tzar was over thrown in Russia the socialist and communists fought a bit of a war to decide which way Russia would go. The communists were stronger. Communism did not grow out of socialism. Socialists violently opposed communism.

          224. MAHB001 says

            “If you ask a Communist, he will tell you that socialism is a good start.”

            Which Communist can you ask? The one that succumbed to the tyranny of the dictator, or the one that has a bullet in their head?

            The problem with your statement is that you have already forgotten that Communism/Socialism is a form of slavery. Those that resisted were killed. The only Communists left answer the question the way their handlers want them to answer the question… That too is a form of slavery.

            So the reason the statement “no country has made it past Communism” will not fade away is because we do not want history to repeat itself….

            “I have no way to judge the future except by the past.”
            —-Patrick Henry

          225. glorybe2 says

            Yes, and a government by the majority also makes slaves of the minority.
            And in the case of the US Republic our constitution was really designed to protect rich, white, men. If you do not believe it and your basic liberties are violated, just try one time to make a case before the courts and see how many years and what great expense it will take to get to the Supreme Court for relief. And while you are trying that out keep in mind that the Supreme Court refuses to hear 99% or more of the cases sent before them each year. The American legal system has been stolen by the rich.

          226. Will says

            “The American legal system has been stolen by the rich.” Sadly and absolutely true. Before the US was founded, all over the world courts let wealthy land owners, royalty and their buddies off for crimes against man and nature, those same courts had slaves, serfs and servants executed for ‘stealing’ food to keep their families alive.

            “And in the case of the US Republic our constitution was really designed to protect rich, white, men.” Absolutely false. In this country for it’s first fifty years or so, all free men got honest justice from our legal system. This country Was a haven for serfs to become free men, working for their own benefit. We have since been driven down to the point you stated to be the original intent. We definitely suck and are continuously plummeting back to the days of old Europe.

          227. AKLady says

            “If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth” Joseph Goebbels.

            The following countries have national health care. They are not communist:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand.

            It is a very sad day when caring for one’s fellow man becomes something to be hated and feared.

          228. MAHB001 says

            OK, what is your point? That these countries are what America should be striving to be like?

            I think you might get your wish when it comes to Greece.

          229. AKLady says

            Poverty should not be a death sentence.
            Many claim America is a Christian nation, however they do not know the meaning of the word.

          230. Peatro Giorgio says

            Even Christ acknowledge that there will always be those whom are poor. But Christ had never proclaimed, that government force should be used to steal from one group to give to another. Those that live in so called poverty in this nation are 3 times better off then in any other nation on earth “Fact” Here in America. If you were sick and you were poor unable to pay. Every single Hospitals emergency room in every single state in the an was required to care for your emergency medical condition. So when I hear dumb ass comments such as being poor should not be a death sentence . I must first consider the source of such ignorance Then I must counter it with facts.

          231. AKLady says

            You have no facts.

            What you are is the proof that a lie told often enough becomes the truth (The Joseph Goebel’s theory).

            Funny thing, even the poverty diet in other countries is healtier than that which impoverished Americans subsist upon.

            Untreated hypertension is a fatal disease.
            Untreated dIabetes is a fatal disease.

            By the tine either one reaches the emergency statge an incredable amount of physical damage has taken place.

            Your self-imposed ignorance is sad. Incredably sad.

          232. MAHB001 says

            How do you link Poverty to a death sentence? I know of no examples where a person died directly of poverty.

            Why do you then imply that poverty is a death sentence in America? Again of all the Countries in this world, you are less likely to die of poverty (if someone could actually die of poverty) than in any other Country.

            And why do you say the most generous nation in the world and its people do not know the meaning of Christianity? The people of America are Generous beyond their means in many cases.

            Do you enjoy insulting about 99% of Americans?

          233. AKLady says

            The Goeble’s theory of reality If you repeat a lie often enough..

            Most generous country in the world? To other nations, but our own people, well that is a very sad state of affairs.

            Poverty is a death sentence in America.

            The gap between being poor enough to qualify for benefits and not rich enough to afford medical care — somethign you absolutely refuse to see or acknowledge.

            Oh, and child, get on your phone. Call the doctors offices in your town and find out which ones accept Medicare and/or Mediciaid patients.
            Your eyes need opened.

          234. MAHB001 says

            “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”

            Believe me I know EXACTLY what the gap between not being poor enough to qualify for benefits and not rich enough to afford medical care is.

            That gap you describe is not unique to America. You speak as if it is. why?

            I am not sure what you are trying to say about doctors that do not accept Medicare and/or Medicaid patients,, Are you saying they are not Christian or generous because they don’t?

          235. AKLady says

            “If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth” Joseph Goebbels.

            Maybe you should list the cointries to which your refer.

            The gap does nto exist in India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          236. jreb57 says

            “It is a very sad day when caring for one’s fellow man becomes something to be hated and feared”
            Whatever happened to the idea of taking care of yourself? You are more likely to get what you think you need rather than what someone else wants you to have..

          237. AKLady says

            Whatever happened to the idea of taking care of yourself?
            Then it is your opinion we should allow the elderly. the very young and rhe disabled to just die?

          238. jreb57 says

            When you state that there are people who must be “cared for” you are saying that you know what is best for them and that they should not have the freedom to make their own way for better or for worse.

          239. AKLady says

            Yes, like you, many Americans are quite willing to let people die who cannot afford medical care. They will even cremate them and dump their asjes in a communial grave at the local cemetary.

          240. jreb57 says

            The reason why no country has made it past communism is because communism wrings all of the wealth out and leaves nothing. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

          241. MAHB001 says


          242. AKLady says

            Then there are: India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Denmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          243. jreb57 says

            If you think it is better there, move there. People living in some of the countries you named obviously think it is better in this country as they are moving here.

          244. AKLady says

            Is that so?
            Are you quite sure of that?
            Oh, and most of those countries will not permit Americans to immigrate. They dion’t want our crime or our selfishness.

          245. jreb57 says

            The governments of these countries depend on capitalist entrepreneurs to fund their bloated budgets.

          246. AKLady says

            The American governmenr depends on capitalist entrepreneurs to fund its bloated military and its playing world police. In the mean time, homeless disabled veterans freeze to death and are denied needed medical care for service connected disabilities.
            America is the only modern, industrialized nation that allows people to die — just because they cannot afford to buy medical care. The ACA was an attempt to lessen than embarassment, but it did not go far enough.
            The very young, the disabled and the elderly have access to government health programs — everyone else is on there own. But hey, anything else owuld be socialist or communist — can’t have the nation taking care of its people.

          247. AKLady says

            Yes, then there is America —
            The dearh penalty.
            Allowing people to die because they cannot buy medical care.
            Religious bigotry.
            Sexual bigotry.
            Disparity in pay…..

          248. AKLady says

            Every modern, industrial society has a mixed economy.
            You have been well-indoctrinated with the “big lie”

          249. jreb57 says

            “Every modern, industrial society has a mixed economy”
            That is what I am trying to tell you. The government spends too much of peoples money on things that they think people should have. I call that a mixed up economy.

          250. AKLady says

            You have been well-indoctrinated with the “big lie”

          251. jreb57 says

            I think it is you who have been indoctrinated with the lie that big government knows best. It does not.

          252. AKLady says

            America is the only modern, industrialized country which allows people to die – simply because they cannot afford to buy health care.

            The ACA was a step towards ending that national embarassment. Hoever, it did not go far enough. People are still left to die.

            For some that process takes years and invloves increasing levels of disabilty. Fo rothers, it is a swift heart attack or stroke involving uears of untreated, undiagnosed hypertension.

          253. AKLady says

            Japan and Germany are doing just fine.
            Turkey has war on its border.
            Every modern, industrial society has a mixed economy.
            You are the only one talking about pure socialism.
            You have been well-indoctrinated with the “big lie” .

          254. MAHB001 says

            So why are Japan and Germany doing just fine???? Could it possibly be the support the Capitalist monsters from the United States gave them after the war?
            So where does your”new” term Democratic Socialism come from? Who else has described their economy in that way?

            I have said that pure socialism does not exist, how is that a lie?
            I have agreed with Lenin when he said, “the goal of socialism is Communism,” how is that a lie?

            Do you question anything that your handlers tell you?

          255. AKLady says

            I do not have a “handler”.
            I am quite capable of reviewing fact and forming a decision.
            I suggest youimprove your reading comprehension.
            You might want to take off those “bigotry” glasses you are wearing.

          256. MAHB001 says

            OK, you are the handler… You come up with all this stuff by yourself..

            Why are Japan and Germany doing fine???
            Where does your “New” term Democratic Socialism come from?
            Who else has described their economy in that way?

            Pure socialism does not exist, that is not a lie.
            The goal of socialism is communism, that too is not a lie. Why Because, pure socialism is not attainable and can not exist on earth, and the path towards socialism, stops at Communism….

          257. AKLady says

            Why don’t you tell that to:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand
            You are of the school of though that says it is just fine to alliow people to die because they cannot afford health care.

            Yor ascribe to the I got mine, you get yours form of Christianity. Is it not beautiful tto behold.

          258. MAHB001 says

            Another dodge? With insults… how typical.

            Japan and Germany are doing fine because America Rebuilt them after the war.

            Your “New” term of Democratic Socialism will lead to socialism, which will lead to communism..

            And last but not least, Germany used Democratic socialism to usher in Hitler…

          259. AKLady says

            Garbage piled higer and deeper.

            Now that you have shown your ignorance in relation to Japan and Germany, why don’t you give it a try on each of the following countries as well:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          260. MAHB001 says

            Another copied post. Starting with an insult…


          261. AKLady says

            You seem to find truth very objectionable.

          262. AKLady says

            More garbage piled higer and deeper.

            Now that you have shown your ignorance in relation to Japan and Germany, why don’t you give it a try on each of the following countries as well:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Enmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man,Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          263. jreb57 says

            “Garbage piled higer and deeper”
            Don’t worry. The government will pick it up. Oh, they hired a private company?.

          264. jreb57 says

            “And last but not least, Germany used Democratic socialism to usher in Hitler”
            Yes. Hitler was a national socialist.

          265. MAHB001 says

            excellent point!

          266. jreb57 says

            Socialism always tends to be less Democratic. The government needs the power to take from some and provide what it thinks is appropriate for others. Government is a sop on wealth not a producer of wealth. The great error of Marx and Engels is a failure to realize that before you can distribute wealth, there must be wealth. When the Soviets spent all of the Czar’s hoarded wealth the government collapsed.

          267. MAHB001 says

            I agree,

            Socialism has to be forced… Nobody wants to give up their hard earned wealth to the collective. Thus the people are forced into a form of slavery, working for the Government.

            The Government has to force people to comply to socialism, and the government itself is less than efficient.. Meaning that it first asks for a buck, then uses about 95% of the buck to sustain itself and then redistributes the rest… Socialists systems always fall to Communism as it is the dictators in Communism that force the people to give up their efforts to the collective.

            The second punch is that socialism or not creating your own wealth does not reward one for ones hard work. This creates laziness, less output per person, and the desire for the collective to take care of you.

            Did you know the word defectors was created in Russia. It was to describe people that wanted to leave the system. They were defective because they wanted to leave. Russia put up walls to keep people in….

          268. AKLady says

            Actually, the Cold War ended when two countries ran out of credit.
            It is hard to keep prodicing weapons and armies when you cannot pay for them.

          269. jreb57 says

            The cold war ended because the Soviets realized they were losing the tech battle. Badly losing.

          270. AKLady says

            The COld War ended because the USSR ran out of money. The U.S. simply barroiwed more, and more.

          271. AKLady says

            WW II was a long, ling time ago.
            Japan is doing fine because it learned how to make quality products at a lower cost.
            The same goes for Germnay.

          272. glorybe2 says

            In a way you make my point. Since no capitalist nation has ever existed you can’t blame them for the slaughters. Yet capitalists do promote wars on an international level. IBM acted to aid German death camps by providing efficient ways to keep data on prisoners in the camps. Coca Cola continued to sell sodas in Nazi Germany and then changed the apparent brand name to keep publicity in check. If my memory is right it was Fanta that became the new Coca Cola for the third reich. And we don’t want to know how much the big name companies contributed to the Nazi cause. How many Americans got rich by war investments in Vietnam? Today our soldiers are being shot at with arms built in the US in the Arab regions.

          273. jreb57 says

            “You do not see the US committing troops to Nigeria or the Congo when
            mass slaughters go on year after year. Yet any trouble near an oil well
            gets immediate military aid fro the US”
            Nigeria is a major exporter of petroleum. The interest of capitalism is in trade which works best in peaceful situations..

          274. Justice says

            Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder;
            Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Romans 12:17-21).

          275. AKLady says

            Many Christians are haters, bigots and war mongers.

            Point: People come in many models. They can be very, very goos and very, very bad; as well as every point betwen.

          276. C6Vette says

            Spoken like a true Mudslim!

          277. AKLady says

            Germany led a hate campaign based on religion and race.
            They were “conservatives”.
            Are you a member of that political party?

          278. C6Vette says

            I guess when all you’ve ever done is “Talk the Talk” from behind a computer screen you can pretty much say anything! Personally I not only “Talk the Talk” I also have “Walked the Walk”, I’ve been there and done that! Something you will never, ever know except to whine, piss and moan about but do nothing but criticize! I think your really a Libturd in here to cause trouble, get everyone arguing than leave! Please don’t go away Mad, just go away! Thank You….. For your visit & comments C – Ya

          279. AKLady says

            Assume, assume, assume. Another braggart tossing insults.
            I’m not impressed.

            I finished medical school in time to gain experience cutting and sewing in Nam.

            I’ve seen more cesspool contents in my lifetime for at least five people.

          280. jreb57 says

            “Germany led a hate campaign based on religion and race.
            They were “conservatives””
            Nazis were not and are not conservatives. Nazis are socialist (National socialist German workers party). Socialism is a progressive disease. Liberals and progressives will try to convince people that Nazis are conservative based on the fact that the German military supported Hitler and the Nazis over the Communists when it became evident that the Wiemar Republic was doomed to failure.

          281. glorybe2 says

            Propaganda involves the misuse of words. Hitler probably giggled when he named the National Socialist Party.
            The driving force behind Hitler’s take over of Germany was overwhelming fear of Soviets running completely over Germany. Imagine the rich people in Germany fearing that their wealth and property would be taken away and that they and their families would be executed. Combine that with the poverty of the Great Depression and the emotional shock of being defeated in WW1 and you have aristocrats in total panic. Fear enabled Hitler to acquire power and install nonsense beliefs in most of the German public.

          282. Peatro Giorgio says

            Here again you’ve failed in your revisionist, history. Hitler desired a more perfect form of socialism. One which would surpass all other known experiment of the past and his present day examples. Damn your dumb as a brick.

          283. AKLady says

            Your history needs updating.
            Antismitisn is not now, nor has it ever been a “progressive” idiology.
            Judenhass (Jew-hatred) existed in Germany long before Hitler was born.

          284. jreb57 says

            “Your history needs updating”
            Don’t you mean re written like communists are fond of doing?

          285. jreb57 says

            “Germany led a hate campaign based on religion and race.
            They were “conservatives”.”
            Hitler was a socialist, a national socialist, not a conservative.

          286. AKLady says

            Talk about ignorance of history.

            You might want to read the actual platform of the National-Socialist German Workers’ Party. The likeness to the Tea Party is a bit frightening.

            You are apparently another one who confuses socialist with communist. I point out that every one of the following countries have a form of national health care in place — do you consider them socialist/co,,unist?:

            India. Israel, Macau, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Austria, Denmark, Finland,, France, Germany, Greece, Guernsey, Jersey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Australia, and New Zealand

          287. Justice says

            Muhammad takes his 9 year old wife to bed
            Quran says women to be beaten
            Quran says four wives are allowed but Muhammad had almost 20
            In paradise, women are chained in different areas for men’s pleasure

          288. AKLady says

            Get out your calculator and check out the old testament.
            Child, if you do not like the teachings of Islam, do not become a Musli.
            Suggest you mind your own business and stop speaking hate.
            The N A Z I persecuted Jewish people over 8 milliion.
            Are you a N A Z I?
            Do you want America to adopt Nazism?

          289. Justice says

            Mohammed’s method was COMPULSION; Christ’s aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).

          290. AKLady says

            Christ may have gelieved in voluntary, His followers did not.

          291. Justice says

            Those who leave Islam are killed in most Islamic nations; Those who leave the true Church of Jesus Christ are allowed to do so with no revenge.

          292. glorybe2 says

            Actually the Muslim scripture says that men should not beat their women too severely.

          293. Justice says

            Mohammed’s Mission was to conquer the world for Allah; Christ’s mission was to conquer sin’s power and penalty by substitutionary atonement (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18).

          294. glorybe2 says

            I am a Christian and can tell you that the average hooker has better morals than the typical person who claims to be a Christian. The hookers simply have their own code of behavior but they tend to stick to their code.

          295. Will says

            You might be in a peculiarly poorly selected church if the Christians you know have worse morals than the hookers you know.

          296. AKLady says

            Not only better morals, but far more Christian charity.

          297. jreb57 says

            “I am a Christian and can tell you that the average hooker has better
            morals than the typical person who claims to be a Christian.”
            Yourself included?

          298. jreb57 says

            “Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder”
            The world just works better when peace and freedom prevail.

          299. AKLady says

            Fact: the U.S. is a net exporter of petroleum products.
            Fact: the majority of U.S. oil imports come from Canada, Mexico amd Argentina.
            Fact: the U.S. stopped importing oil from the Middle-east beginging in the 1970s

          300. jreb57 says

            “Fact: the U.S. stopped importing oil from the Middle-east beginging in the 1970s”

            Not so. As of 2007, the US still gets about 16% of its imports from Saudi Arabia. I am reasonably sure that Saudi Arabia is still in the middle east.

          301. AKLady says

            Try to remember that the U.S. is a net petroleum product exporter.
            We have not imported oil to meet our “national consumption” needs simce the lesson of the 1970s was taught.

          302. glorybe2 says

            Companies that supplied the oil drilling industry suffered severely in the 1980 era as the US was not pumping up oil but down pumping imported oil to create a vast reserve of oil in the US. The strategy was to buy foreign oil at 1980s prices and then when those nations go dry to sell that oil back to them at a huge profit. American citizens were effectively taxed by rigged oil prices from their own government.
            Some people will not want to believe that but think about Ronald Reagan arranging large amounts of cocaine to be sold on American streets to support a secret war in S. America.
            Slightly before the Cuban missile crisis JFK was handed a plan from the American Air Force to trigger a war with Cuba by severely bombing Miami, Florida and claiming that the Cubans bombed Miami as an excuse for bombing the hell out of Cuba. The government of the US has not given a fig about what happens to the American people at all over long periods of time. Remember having large numbers of soldiers sit and watch a nuclear bomb explosion? The idea was to find out how fast many would become sick and what illnesses would occur. The people running those tests knew that many soldiers would die. No concern at all for their health or welfare existed.

          303. AKLady says

            Foreign oil was less expensive.

          304. glorybe2 says

            If you are saying that the US government or public will do little to keep black people from murdering each other that is both sad and true. Racism is almost the official policy of the US.

          305. jreb57 says

            I am saying that the residents of black neighborhoods are conflicted. They do not want the violence and crime and they do not want the police to do what they must do to stop it. I have had a black co worker tell me as much.

          306. Justice says

            Our State universities and colleges are now clogged with foreign students. At the University of Texas, Arabs from Moslem countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, and Yemen are learning aerospace engineering. Why? So they can use their knowledge to make weapons of mass destruction and use them against Americans

          307. AKLady says

            You must be awful young.
            Our colleges have been open to Arab students for a very long time.
            They pay well and study hard.

          308. jreb57 says

            “They pay well and study hard” (Arab students)
            Some of them do. 18 of them overstayed their visas and flew airplanes into our buildings..

          309. glorybe2 says

            You are dead wrong. They were not college students at all. They enrolled in pilot training at dinky, little flight training schools. Those are hardly college level places.

          310. AKLady says

            You damn all for the actions of a few.
            The name for that is bigotry.

          311. jreb57 says

            Love the sinner. Hate the sin. That is not bigotry.

          312. AKLady says

            Religious bigotry is still bigotry.
            You are playing the ‘my God is btter than your God’ game.

          313. AKLady says

            That is bigotry of the worst kind.

            You are playing the my god is better than your god game.

          314. Justice says

            Mohammed was a WARRIOR; Christ is The DELIVERER (Rom 11:26, Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

          315. glorybe2 says

            More nonsense. Are you aware that Texas A&M has a campus in China? Anything that can be taught in an American university is available almost everywhere on Earth. In India the universities usually do not have the wealth for advanced chemical and physics laboratories. But Indian Universities are very, very strong on teaching theory to the point that their knowledge of theory exceeds that of US chemistry students. To get laboratory training at a more advanced level they need to attend schools in nations that are more economically able to provide labs with expensive equipment.
            Make note of all the advancements and breakthroughs in US colleges and universities and make note of how many foreign names create the breakthroughs in leading edge science and medicine. Thank God that we have scholars from China, Japan, India, Pakistan, S. Korea and all the Asian rim nations as they now are a super, vital resource for us.

          316. Justice says

            the Quran is not written in a heavenly language, it is written the Quraish dialect (Hadith vol. 6, no. 507) which was Muhammad’s tribe. On top of that it is easily translated. It didn’t fall out of heaven as they claim. Neither is it non-translatable as Muslims are taught that it is.

          317. Will says

            Millions of black people in the US? Keep smokin’ bra.

          318. AKLady says

            There are millions of people of color in the United States.

          319. Will says

            I was responding to Glorybe2’s comment above (“In addition to the slaughter of millions of black people”), not how many blacks currently live in the US.

          320. Justice says

            Muslim women can be kept prisioners in their own homes and denied the right to go outside the house if the husband orders. They can’t even vote in some countries. In Iran they must carry written permission from their husbands to go outside the house. In Saudi Arabia, they are prohibited from driving a car. When some women in Saudia Arabia drove cars in the fall of 1990, they were castigated from every direction and admonished not to talk to Western reporters. One woman said, “The issue is not driving. It is that here in Saudi Arabia, I exist as a person from the bellybutton to the knees.”

            I’ve heard some foolish people say that the Bible degrades women. What a lie that is! God made us male and female with distinct responsibilities. I perceive that the lawless and rebellious are the ones who think that having children and rearing them is demeaning. I perceive that the prideful and arrogant are the ones that think they have something to prove to men and the world at large. What a pitiful existence trying to be just the opposite of what God says. That is all it is. What freedom we women have in Christ. I used to think being a Christian was about bondage, but that was a lie from the devil. It is ultimate freedom

          321. MAHB001 says

            What an awesome post. Thanks..

          322. glorybe2 says

            The Bible does not make clear the roles of men and women. For example a male might stay home and cook and clean while the woman hunts for the meals. In the early churches women could be ministers or deacons or whatever. In our era women are locked out of those positions in most denominations. Look at women entering a Catholic church. They place a shawl over their heads as showing their heads would somehow offend God while the men must do the opposite and remove their hats. Shall we assume God likes mens’ heads and hates womens’ heads? Or could it be that vanity in women is a common belief and the church should not promote vanity by allowing women to display their hair or much of their face? That sounds quite a bit like Islam to me.

          323. Will says

            “Shall we assume God likes mens’ heads and hates womens’ heads?” Maybe we should assume that a mans head was to be unadorned during worship, like the bible tells us…

          324. AKLady says

            Or we cannot accept the obviois — temptation.
            Men have a great deal of difficulty controlling their thoughts.

          325. Will says

            Huh? Men definitely have that difficulty. It has nothing to do with the scripture indicated by my post.

          326. AKLady says

            You might want to go back and read parts of the Old Testament.
            Judaism and Islam are Old Testament religions.

          327. glorybe2 says

            Most men are not so concerned about a woman’s face or hair. They get fixated a bit lower down than that.

          328. AKLady says

            You might want to do a bit of research. Much religious symbolism/meaning is connected with hair.

            In Judaism, married women are required to cover their hair as it is a symbol of sensuality that must be reserved for the husband. Women in Orthodox Christian Churches and Jehovah’s Witnesses wear head coverings

          329. glorybe2 says

            Women do have issues with vanity and torture their hair with every hope of attracting males. But some men are the same way. I would think that some women are distracted by good looking men as well so why do we treat them differently from men? Such practices put sexual discrimination into play.

          330. AKLady says

            Actually, Catholic women must cover their heads
            for the same reason Muslim women must cover their heads and faces:
            Because they are a temptation to men, who cannoto seem to contol themselves.

          331. AKLady says

            Eveey culture forms its own social customs.
            If Middleeastern norms are not to your likeing,
            I suggest you do not move there.

            People, such as yourself, use the Bible as
            a control mechanism.

            Religion is simply another layer of power and control.

            If you need the threat of hell to control your
            evil ways, you are never going to make it through
            the pearly gates.

          332. Justice says

            Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder; Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Romans 12:17-21).

          333. AKLady says

            You are not a Christian.
            YOu embarass those who are.

          334. Peatro Giorgio says

            We shall say onto you : If in fact our Judeo, Christian Constitutional Republic. Of free men and women is not to your liking. Then get the hell out.

          335. AKLady says

            America is not based on any religion.
            America is not a Judeo-Christian Country, not now, not ever..


            If you do not like our laws, then YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

          336. glorybe2 says

            We could argue that point. Prior to 1787 there is no doubt that Christianity controlled the colonies. The founders probably never considered the more Eastern faiths as religions at all just as they did not take native Americans religions as legitimate faiths. The constitutional wording may have meant that no single Christian denomination should have an edge over the other by getting governmental support. Keep in mind that in most of America gunning down any non white was pretty much allowed without penalties being expected. To shoot a Chinese or Arab just for the heck of it would normally bring no punishment at all. Shooting some Muslim for wailing away on his prayer rug would not be a matter for a sheriff to look into.

          337. AKLady says

            So sayeth the propaganda with which have been, and continue to be brainwashed. The First people were not Christian. The slaves were either Muslim or of an African tribal belief system.

            Nothing within the wording of the Constitution speaks to Chrsitianity. There existed a sizable Jewish population in colonial America. No less than 10% of the slaves brought to America were Muslim.

            Suggest you research a slave named Estevanico who survived a shipreck of the coast of Texas. Muslims are clearly mentioned in Viginia statues dating as eaely as 1682. Look up the Revolutionsry soldiers “Yusuf ben Ali” and “Bampett Muhamed”.
            Arab, nonwhite? Your impressions of early America is incredably wrong.

          338. glorybe2 says

            Defining who is white is a very sloppy process and without much logic behind it at all. Some Americans would not consider most Italians as white. I don’t think many Americans would consider Arabs as being white either. And yes, i know there are some blue eyed, blond Arabs. There are even some black folks who are so light skinned that they are whiter than some white people. I have never seen a red Indian, a yellow Japanese, or even many brown Mexicans. But really skin color means nothing at all. One oddity is that we have no office of racial definition in the US. So any person is totally free to claim to be of any race they wish. I do know of people who have claimed to be black on job applications and enabled businesses to claim they hired and promoted black workers.

          339. AKLady says

            Did you research any of the names I gave you?
            Interesting history. Most of whichn is left out of school books.

          340. jreb57 says

            The first amendment was meant to prevent a theocracy, not to control Christmas displays and certainly not meant to control when or to whom you pray.

          341. glorybe2 says

            You can start with the number of slaves who died or were killed in servitude. Then you could count the war dead from all of our nations wars and even the accidental horror we let lose on India and toss in the Civil war body count as well. Then we have the number of soldiers and civilians killed in WW2 and WW1. We might easily pass 100 million souls. In India we sent them modern fertilizer and pest control products as well as some tractors to help feed their nation. It had a reverse effect. The farmers were able to lay off almost all of the farm workers as the chemicals worked so well and millions could not feed themselves as their employment vanished as a result of our help. When we sent missionaries into Africa the missionaries put shoes on the natives and required them to wear pants and shirts. The result was jungle rot killing off numerous natives all over Africa. Some people claim that we went through 600 million black slaves in the US. I think that number is way out of line but 200 million might be a good guess. Further western civilization, including us has given the world machine guns, lethal gasses, tanks and high tech weapons as well as the atomic and nuclear bombs . There is no way to sort out how much of that was US developed compared to being developed in Europe but the body count for the US would be quite high. We are involved in far more wars than any other nation as well.
            I am not shooting down the US at all. We simply need to confront two facts. All nations have a wretched history and the US is no different at all. But people who run about thinking our history is just wonderful are out of their damned minds.

          342. glorybe2 says

            Since no capitalist nation has ever existed any conclusions about the supposed qualities of capitalism is pure fantasy. It is like me saying that i understand the abilities of three headed elephants when no three headed elephant has ever existed. You think capitalism can exist in degrees and that is nonsense. My sister either is or is not pregnant. Pregnancy is an absolute state of existence. there is no in between point at all. Capitalism requires a free market. Now define a free market. A free market is free of all laws, rules or regulations as well as being free of taxation.No free market has ever existed anywhere at any time. No government or tribe has ever been foolish enough to allow a free market. So just imagine the pure bullshit of all the authors writing about the joys of a free market or capitalism.

          343. MAHB001 says

            Again, you apply unreasonable logic. Pure Capitalism and Pure socialism are exercised every day. As for examples of pure capitalism, go to a swap meet. If you want to see pure socialism working look towards the family unit.

            Again, you should not trust the person that is feeding you your knowledge base.

            Even when it comes to taxes, if you don’t like paying them, you can leave the U.S… People have choices, Capitalism is alive and well, even in Russia and China.

          344. glorybe2 says

            Having been a seller at swap meets I promise you that capitalism is not at work at all. Not only does the law and taxation regulate swap meets but one also must obey the swap meet’s rules and regulations as well as pay a fee for your selling space. For example one swap meet manager had a fit as I played chess while waiting for an interested customer. Then we were required to operate until closing even though chances of a sale fell to next to zero after noon but we could not pull out until 3 O:clock.

          345. MAHB001 says

            You have a choice, if you do not want to play by the rules of the swap meet, you can go elsewhere… It is your choice. The fee for the space is capitalism in force… The space has something the seller needs, thus the seller agrees to the terms, and pays the fee. If it isn’t worth it to the seller, the seller is not forced to do it…

            You have got to figure this out…. Nothing in life is free…. Nothing. Life is not FAIR. We are equal under the law, but that does not mean we have equal things.

          346. glorybe2 says

            Considering that we may well see the extermination of the human race due to global warming caused by for profit businesses ruining the land, seas and all of nature we should consider capitalism as far more dangerous than all of our wars and other evils. Where does it stop. Capitalists confess daily. they rant that they must have growth. It is always a craving for more growth. And it is usually a craving to bring in money from a distance as locals are not able to come up with as much money as the capitalists want. Florida and California went down that path. Huge efforts were made to get people to move to those states over many decades. And all the while those states became less and less desirable as places to live. Fort Lauderdale is in Broward county. When I arrived in 1953 it had 30,000 people. Now there are in excess of one million. It is the exact opposite of progress. It is the wreck path of capitalism.

          347. jreb57 says

            “Considering that we may well see the extermination of the human race due to global warming”
            BS. If you knew anything about physics and the earth’s history, you would not have made that statement.

          348. MAHB001 says

            Now who is the conspiracy theorists???? Your last post is your furthest from reality…

            Talk about fear mongering… It seems you blame population growth on Capitalism too. I population growth is the exact opposite of progress, what do you consider progress, death???

            Capitalism is not evil, what you are doing is… That is promoting socialism and telling us to ignore the facts and history….

          349. Peatro Giorgio says

            Crony Capitalize a system designed by both of the branches of the left The lunatic left fringe in the demo lamo party and the rino fake republicans in the re puke party.” The too BIG to FAIL policy,” Which has enjoyed all the advantages of government protection; While either buying out merging with or crushing all their smaller competitors all around them. Those CO’S Whom experienced zero government help, Either policy wise or financially. Crony Capitalism was and is an off shoot of Communism, government controlled, Gov. owned corporations ,Government protected..

          350. AKLady says

            Crony Capitalism is a right-wing feature.
            You are terribly confused.

          351. jreb57 says

            “sold to those incapable of complex thought processes”
            Describes government bureaucrats..
            “The body count for capitalism exceeds the body count of socialism or communist nations.”
            You better do a recount. Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, Cambodia, North Korea, China all socialist countries. The body count is greater than the sum of all capitalists. Capitalism created the highest standard of living the world has ever seen. If you know of a nation with a better system I suggest you head in that direction.

          352. AKLady says

            I woluld not be so certain of that,

            Take a careful look at history,
            there is a huge surprise waiting for you:
            Sweat shops, child labor, slavery,
            race discrimination, gender discrimination,
            sexual discrimination, abject poverty,
            religious persecution ….

          353. Justice says

            In New York City, 90% of the cab drivers are either Arabs or Russians. Few have legal status in the U.S.A. The INS doesn’t care.

          354. AKLady says


            Obviously, you have not bothered to check the eligibility requirements for obtaining a New York drivers’ license.

            INS may not care, but New York State cares – a lot.

            Maybe you should do so instead of making a fool of yourself.

          355. Justice says

            Even the word “Allah” was not invented by Muhammad. It was already well known. Allah is a purely Arabic word al = the and ilah = god. It is not taken from the Hebrew or Greek word for God. It is not even the Arabic word for God. It is the name of a peculiar deity–Allah, the moon god.

          356. AKLady says

            Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour …

            “Thou shalt not bear false witness” forbids: “1. Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbor. 2. Speaking unjustly against our neighbor, to the prejudice of his reputation; and (which involves the guilty of both).
            WHY DO YOU LIE?

          357. Justice says

            Mohammed allowed that a Mullah, Imam, or Mufti of Islam can be a terrorist and an amoral animal like Osama bin Laden; The Bible requires that a leader in the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ must be above reproach, and when this is not true, Christians demand such a fallen leader be removed from leadership. (1 Timothy 3:1-7, 5:19-20).

          358. AKLady says

            Religious hate is wrong.
            Are you a member of the American N A Z I Party?

          359. Will says

            It’s only easy to pervert when both slimy political parties are on the same bus, as they have been in this country since 1964 (despite all the caterwauling in congress and the voting public).

          360. Justice says

            I called to activate my VISA card the other day and someone who couldn’t hardly speak English answered the phone. I knew immediately I was speaking with someone in India. I asked the man if he was in India and he became offended, so I hung up and called VISA management to complain. They said they understood and offered their apologies, but they’re not going to change the way they do business. They don’t care. Business has become cut-throat nowadays. They’d rather pay someone 25 cents an hour in India than hire an American for $10 an hour. The problem is that these are AMERICAN companies, who enjoy lucrative tax-breaks and make billions of dollars annually IN AMERICA. This is as unethical as it ought to be illegal.

          361. MAHB001 says

            Crony Capitalism IS Socialism seeping into capitalism…. It is the collusion of big business and big government.

            So you are saying that one flaw of capitalism is socialism seeping into Capitalism…
            I can agree with that…

          362. jreb57 says

            Communism is the ultimate crony capitalism.Everything run by the government.

          363. glorybe2 says

            Your comment might be more true in 1930 than it is today. For example several of the richest business people in the world now come from China. They developed new industries and made large fortunes. Communism is much more moderate than it was in the early years. And although Chine surely has troubles, just as other nations do, the Chinese people are better off now than at any time in history, under various forms of government. A form of government that works well elsewhere might not work at all in other locations. I am not convinced that any form of democracy or republic could have worked well in China. The concept was simply too far removed from traditional Chinese culture.

          364. AKLady says

            The choice is obviois:
            Democrats = peace
            Republicans = war, increased debt, increased poverty, and the very rich get richer.

          365. MAHB001 says

            oh child…
            Do you really think socialists can create peace?

            0bama is a Democrat right? has he not increased war, poverty, debt and hasn’t the rich have gotten richer on his watch..

            Child, How in the world can you blame that on Republicans?

          366. Croco Dile says

            There is a wonderful peace in a prison !

            And total security. Everyone is safe !

          367. AKLady says

            Australia, Caada, Finlamd, Iceland, Sweden …
            America is the only modern, industrialized vouintru which allows people to die just because theu cannot afford to buy health care. I have insurance. Two medications, with insurance, cost me $600.00 a month. You see, Medicare Part D only covers the cheap, medication which is not longer covered by patents.

          368. Croco Dile says

            True, America is not perfect.
            As is Canada, Sweden and other European countries.

            The perfect place is a prison 🙂
            The guards take care of everything.

          369. AKLady says

            Nowhere is perfect.
            However, no one should be allowed to die simply because they are not rich enough, or poor enough, to obtain medical care.
            Don’t bet on the prison bit. There are states where if you do not pay, your fo not get medical care.

          370. Croco Dile says

            You are reading too much this site with all those pereverted Christians and self-named conservatives 🙂
            Don’t lose your sense of humor, lady…..

          371. ELAINE MARZANO says

            oH, croc there you go with the name caling again. I thought you were thru with us. were you hiding out. I hope it wasn’t with machine gun Tillie and her know It all mouth.

          372. ELAINE MARZANO says

            Two wrongs do not make a right. number one lady she is not. and sense of humor not right. as much as I guess I say I do not like you. I think you should choose your friends a little more carefully.

          373. AKLady says

            Some are strong.
            Others need help.

          374. You Lie, Boy! says

            So, in other words, your nonsense about other countries not allowing people to die (a blatant falsehood) notwithstanding, you claim it is somebody else’s responsibility that you live?
            It is your contention that YOU have a RIGHT (non-existent) to a portion of someone else’s livelihood because of your poor planning?
            You are saying that you, at the point of a [government] gun, have the right to deny me the fruits of my labors (e.g. doctor’s fees, R & D dollars, etc)?
            People die, you dumb broad. That is fact of life number 1. And sometimes it ain’t pretty.

          375. AKLady says

            I suspose you probably call yourself a Christian.
            Probably even attend church on at least one Sunday a yeae.
            YOu would not have what you receive if it were not for the labor of someone else.
            That, you ignorant fool, is the facts of life and it is not pretty.

          376. glorybe2 says

            You have no idea how strongly many Christians feel about some of the lousy protestant churches that have sprung up in the past few decades. Some of the TV ministers are actually preaching doctrines that were considered satanic doctrines in seminary schools all over the world. The faith seed money scam is one of the. Crappo Doller or whatever his name is rants about more blessings fall upon those that give more etc.. Then we have Baptists throwing other Baptists out of congregations as they consider some members not holy enough. It does not bother them that Christ came to save the poor and the sinners and not the holy or the rich.

          377. AKLady says

            I am well aware of both sides, as they are represented in my family.

          378. You Lie, Boy! says

            No, you fool, I am a reincarnationist. And I have what I have through the fruits of my OWN labors.
            Once again, you are one dumb broad.

          379. AKLady says


            A Hindu? The popular fiction book? The game? The cult?

            What you have is the fruit of your own labor?

            The eggs you ate for breakfast, you grew and beed those chickens?
            The clothes you are wearing, you grew the plants, harvested them, spun the yearn, wove the cloth and then sewed in to clothing?
            You carried the water you bathed in fram a stream?
            You carry your slop jar out to an outhouse oit you dug.
            You chopped the wood for a fire?

          380. You Lie, Boy! says

            See, Shauna, this is what I’m talking about, her not having the slightest understanding of Alinsky.

            Look, you dumb broad, we use something called ‘money’ to trade for things we don’t make, grow or “beed” ourselves. We trade something called work (sweat, brainpower, knowledge) to acquire this money we use to trade.

            But then, you knew that. Right? PLEASE tell me you ain’t POSSIBLY this stupid.

          381. AKLady says

            Therefore, you also depend on the labor of others.
            Why is it so hard for you to admit you need and depend upon others?

            There is an entire meanu of philosphy out there.

            Maybe you should try reading more?

          382. You Lie, Boy! says

            You mean I pay fair market value for the labor of others? You truly are freakin’ stupid. And I don’t mean ignorant, I mean stupid. Words would escape Churchill in describing the unmitigated childish imbecility you proffer.

          383. AKLady says

            Can you exist without the labor of others?
            No, you cannot.
            Payigng does not negate dependency.
            You are truely narrow minded and ignorant.

          384. You Lie, Boy! says

            You CANNOT be this stupid. Obviously, you dumb b**ch, if I didn’t PAY someone else for their ‘labor’ I would have to do it myself. And I have.

          385. AKLady says

            That is one of the most over-inflated opinion of self that I have witnessed.
            They nailed the last “perfect” person to a cross.

          386. You Lie, Boy! says

            Too bad they don’t do the same with idiots. You wouldn’t be here insulting my (or anyone’s) intelligence with such insipid childishness.

          387. AKLady says

            Intellegence must exist before it can be insulted.
            They nailed the last “perfect” person to a cross.

          388. You Lie, Boy! says

            Whatever, you dumb broad.

          389. AKLady says

            More assumptions.
            YOu presume I have working spelling software.
            I do not.
            I am sitll in the process of recovering from a computer failure.

          390. You Lie, Boy! says

            Brain failure too, it would seem. Although in your case, the patient was dead since birth.

          391. AKLady says

            Keep those insults coming.
            They say far more about you than they do me.

          392. You Lie, Boy! says

            True. But making you continue with your nonsense is so much fun.

          393. AKLady says

            Truth at last.

          394. You Lie, Boy! says

            You wouldn’t know (or even understand) truth if it bit you on your fat a ss.

          395. Peatro Giorgio says

            AKA LADY : You lie Boy is so very right. You may find the need for your dependency life style. Unlike yourself. There are many of us who find no need of others . For we were taught from a rather young age to be independent self reliant. To provide in every manner for our selves and our loved ones. To make to grow to raise to build to reperpose those things saved or salvaged. Unlike the leaches who suck the life’s blood from others . We find neither purpose or need from or of others. We are skilled in all manners of trades you know nothing about. We shall survive and thrive when the likes of you shall parish. Yes we live in a modern world . But we have never forgotten the old ways. And That my friend is why we have a huge advantage over the likes of you.

          396. AKLady says

            Assume, assume, assume …
            That is your basic failing.
            It is a failing which can, and probably will, lead to uour death.

          397. Will says

            I think what he is saying is that he doesn’t expect others to work for free to pay his way for him. I think that is sensible and honorable. Do You like to work for free?

          398. AKLady says

            No one expects anyone to work for free.

          399. AKLady says

            He is perfect!
            The second coming has taken place.

          400. Peatro Giorgio says

            I see you have a slight grasp on reality. After all the concept of fruits of our own labor stands strong after all you weren’t their to help me shape the stone to set it in the cement to form the walls of my home or the retaining walls in my fields which I plowed behind the tractor I bought from the income I earned from build my neighbors home which allowed me to buy more land to grow more crops to feed more live stock to send to slaughter so that idiots like you can eat. Because your right in one respect there has never ever been a progressive or socialist able to provide for themselves or their families that they abandon on a regular basis. And this is exactly why they can say they did not build that. Because no socialist or progressive is capable of independence or self reliance.

          401. AKLady says

            No man is an island.
            You obviously have no grasp, whatsoever on reality.

            Did you build the tractor?
            Did you mine the ore foe the plaw blade?
            Did you smelt the mental?
            Did you hammer the blade?
            Did you make the tractor parts?
            Did you build the tractor?
            Did you slaughter the livestock sold at the grocery?
            Did you grow the food on your table all of it?

          402. pineapple says

            “However, no one should be allowed to die simply because they are not rich enough, or poor enough, to obtain medical care.”

            Not to worry, we will all soon be poor enough after Obama and his minions finish destroying the U.S. economy..

          403. AKLady says

            Maybe, we sould have let Bush finish the destruction.
            America was dropping 1 million jobs a month during the last 9 months of his reign.

          404. jreb57 says

            “America was dropping 1 million jobs a month during the last 9 months of his reign.”
            Thanks to the Community Reinvestment Act and the repeal of Glass Steagall which created the real estate bubble and the collapse of the financial services industry.

          405. AKLady says

            Just how did the CRA, signed in 1977, contribute to 2008 job losses?
            That is an 31 year spread.
            Glass Steagall was repealed in 1999.
            That is a 10 year spread.
            Exactly how did either contribute to unmployment in 2008?

          406. Will says

            “Just how did the CRA, signed in 1977, contribute to 2008 job losses?

            That is an 31 year spread.”

            “Glass Steagall was repealed in 1999.
            That is a 10 year spread.
            Exactly how did either contribute to unmployment in 2008?”

            This country was the wealthiest in the world in the 1970’s. It took a while to burn off all the wealth earned on the backs of American food producers, resource harvesters and processors, and manufacturers. Consider here that for the last 45 years, 2 million immigrants a year have pored into the nation, the many flooding the food production and processing sector (both parties responsible) driving wages much lower. Neocoms (democrats) have relentlessly attacked the resource sector and for the last 38 years, Neocoms (republicans) have attacked the commercial manufacturing sector (85% of all manufacturing is now taxpayer supported military manufacturing). Without the tremendous income of the three producing sectors (by gov’t design) and with unbridled spending and numerous tax-cuts, we are now so deeply buried in debt that only a jubilee (declared bankruptcy) will save our federal gov’t. B.t.w. $14T of the $18T public debt is owned by US pension funds, social security, US based bond funds and American citizens, so when the low-life rothschild/rockefeller controlled international financiers pull the plug (raise interest rates drastically) it will wipe $14T of wealth (admittedly house-of-cards paper money) off the books overnight. My personal pension fund is 60% in treasuries and our social security is 100% so when I state these facts it doesn’t make me feel too great either. Anyway, both slimy, fake political parties are against us. NOT one for and one against as the false narrative would indicate.

          407. Peatro Giorgio says

            Pretty sad attempt at being non partisan. Your liberal spewing talking points were all well represented in that rant, now Let’s begin by clearly stating the simple facts let us go back to the last year of G.W. Bushes waning of the rapidly approaching collapse of the Housing Market. Now let us go back to the very year G. W.bush made and stated clearly of the approaching Market correction that year was 2002. Now lets Go to the very source of the housing market Collapse. The Dodd ,Franks , Bill. Which was the primary legislation which directed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac To expand their home financing loans further by reducing income requirements and security requirements. O yes Liberals want less restrictions an to open more opportunities. For the very low income person an families. Nice thought bad very dad decision. But that not the worst of it. The pretense to allow Banks and corporation to grow so large as to not permit them to fall falls squarely on both parties and at that quite equally. Us middle to moderate income folks were not bailed out neither were the smaller falling corporation or the small local banks. And we can Thank The rino rejects in the repub. party and the liberal retards of the demo-rat party for that.

          408. AKLady says

            The Gobbel’s effect, isn’t it amazing?

          409. Will says

            Have You noticed johnsonnixoncarterreaganbushclintonbushobama are the same destroyer with each doing a different bit of destruction? Consider that bizarre statement with a serious mind for just a moment before you toss it off. They are on the same team. One pitches, one catches, three are in the outfield, four in the infield but all are on the same team and have been playing against us.

          410. AKLady says

            The statement is quite bizzare.
            It is also totally false.

          411. ELAINE MARZANO says

            including a free rapeing. yeah that is a good place . I think I have had enough of those crazy OB people for the night.
            Good night all you guys and gals that were here tonight, and thank you Paetro.

          412. pineapple says

            That’s why you need medigap, which covers what Medicare doesn’t cover.
            I pay $137 per month for medigap.(BC/BS)

          413. AKLady says

            Medicare covers no outpatient medicarion, whatsoever.
            Medicare Part D covers drugs.
            It is basically private insurance. Each company has a differnt list of deugs.
            Medigap does not fill in all the overruns.

          414. jreb57 says

            “Medicare Part D only covers the cheap, medication which is not longer covered by patents”
            Not so. Medicare part D covers most medications approved by the FDA. It is covered on a tier system. Some meds cost nothing, some cost a small copay and some cost a big copay depending which tier they are in. Are you complaining about the socialism we do have in this country? Or do you wish the government would take most of your salary and give you the amount of food, medicine and housing that some bureaucrat thinks you need?

          415. ELAINE MARZANO says

            How can she afford 600.dollars a month when our veterans get crap. They were protecting her for god sake.. and she can afford that kind of money. oh hell, I forgot she is a democrat. and they get what ever they want. what are we even doing talking to her. ???

          416. AKLady says

            You have been well brainwashed.

            Look up a few:
            Dexilant ($241.00)
            Linzess ($236.00)
            Zovorax ($800.00)

            I have disabled clients on Medicare Part-D who would spend almost $1,000/month on their meds. If there was not help from other sources, they would have to go without. They would suffer and die.

            Socialism? Not hardly.

            There is not one, offical Medicare Part-D formulary.
            Each insurer covers different drugs.
            They can discontinue coverage for a drug midway through the year. However, you cannot change plans until open deason.

            Government handouts for the drug industry. (PartD)
            Gocernment hantouts for the insurance industry (Part D).
            Government handouts for farmers (food stamps).

          417. jreb57 says

            I have medicare part D. I know what the insurance costs and I know what the co pays are for both myself and my wife. I have a budget and I am debt free. The only worry I have is how long it will take until inflation because of deficit spending catches up to my realitively fixed income. I did not plan for idiots. Perhaps I should have.

          418. AKLady says

            Copays are only a part of the story.
            Each company’s formulary is different.
            Take the time to do a bit of research, then come back and tell me which Medicare Part D insurer covers those drugs I listed above.
            You will not find them in any company’s Part D formulary.
            I have clients who would be very thankful to you.

          419. jreb57 says

            Drugs can be very expensive even when subsidized because the drug companies must recover the costs of research and lawsuits brought by lawyers such as yourself on behalf of a group of people who have used the drug many of whom are not aware the company is being sued on their behalf.

          420. AKLady says

            Is that so?
            You obvioisly have not spent much time outside of the United States.

            I am not a lawyer. I am a disability advocate. I assit the disabled to obtain the benefits to which they are entitled by law.

          421. Will says

            America is the only nation in the world where pharmacies charge American (drastically inflated) prices.

          422. AKLady says

            No one like to hear it.

          423. jreb57 says

            Under socialism, equal opportunity for all; nobody has a chance.

          424. AKLady says

            Australia, Canada, Sweden, Norway, FInland, Iceland ….
            No, Obama has not started two wars.
            No, Obama did not put two wars on the the Bank of Chuna credit card .
            No, Obama did not give the Military Industrial Complex $trillions of new profits.
            Debt is cumulative. There is still debt from WW II coming in.
            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            You seem quite happy to live with the propaganda you are beign fed.

          425. MAHB001 says

            How sad, you can not recognize the truth regardless of the amount of evidence put in front of you.

            “To change the perception of reality, of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their family, their community and their country. It’s a great brainwashing process…”
            Yuri Bexmenov


          426. AKLady says

            0You are despiratey in need of deprogramming.
            In additon, you have huge need for education and information increases.

          427. MAHB001 says

            YOUR denial only proves my point. Try to point out why you think I need deprogramming….

          428. AKLady says

            Please get help.
            If you cannot afford a private doctor,
            there is a community mental health center near you.
            Paranoia is a sumptom of several, serious mental illnesses.

          429. MAHB001 says

            I might remind you that being paranoid (which I am not) is no indication that one is wrong….

            Yet is is an insult, and the left routinely uses insults to silence and deflect a conversation that they can not win……

            Again, your insult proves my point.

          430. AKLady says

            Being paranoid and paranoia are two different things.
            Your insults, of which there are many. serve to prove my points.

          431. AKLady says

            I denied nothing.

          432. Justice says

            One such foreign monster, a Muslim Croatian, was legally branded a criminal psychotic by his native country, Croatia. The INS saw that as no problem, and our Embassy abroad gave the wacko a visa. He was the crazy who cut the throat of the Greyhound bus driver, hijacked the bus, and killed five passengers by running the bus off the road.

            In Sacramento, another criminal psychotic, a Ukrainian, went on a rampage, killing most of his family and threatening townspeople. Meanwhile, in Indianapolis and Atlanta, hundreds of Third World immigrant women and children have been discovered by police locked up and imprisoned, used as sex slaves. Their captors were themselves illegal immigrants.

          433. AKLady says

            Saint Reagan’s shameful legacy
            The one you do not hear about.
            The one the right blames on “progressives”.

            One month prior to the Reagan’s election, President Carter had signed the Mental Health Systems Act, which had proposed to continue the federal community mental health centers program.

            With President Reagan and the Republicans taking over, the Mental Health Systems Act was discarded before the ink had dried.

            Reagan’s actions toward the mentally came close to getting him assanaated. Reagan was shot by John Hinckley, a young man with untreated schizophrenia.

            The Greyhound attacker was mentally ill. He was not a terrorist. Thanks to Reagan, our prisons are filled with mentaly ill. They should be in hospitals. However, those facilities are sitting abandoned, empoty and now, totally unusable.

            Oh, and the driver’s throat was not slashed. He lived through the ensuing vehile crash.

          434. Justice says

            And, of course, there are the hospitals and medical clinics—populated now with incompetent, foreign-trained, alien doctors and nurses. Many are Islamic, and some no doubt are glad to see Christian patients suffer and die.

          435. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss. Your assumptions are false totally falsw.

            Foreign trained physicians must complete an American residency program, as well as academic study.

            Moreover, they must also take and pass the competency teasting to be licensed exactly the same as a U.S. trained doctor. Nurses must also undergo similar training and professional resting

            The majority of foreign nurses and doctors studied in this country. Americans, however, go to foreign universites for one reason: the cost is far lower.

          436. Justice says

            As I learn about the elite conspiracy (“New World Order”) I feel like a turkey finding out about Thanksgiving.

            Mankind is indeed in the malignant grip of a satanic cult that subtly controls media, government education and business. Afflicted by this debilitating spiritual cancer, mankind is too deformed to diagnose its ailment.

          437. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss. Your assumptions are false totally false.

          438. Justice says

            “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an “extraterrestrial” invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
            – Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

          439. glorybe2 says

            I would bet that one way or another we are still paying off some debts from the Civil War. And although the last soldier from WW1 for the US has now passed on you can bet that children born disabled to soldiers at war are still alive and we surely pay for items like that from WW1 as well. Korea still costs us a fortune and we have so many messed up soldiers from Vietnam that those expenses have to be a nightmare as well. America can not afford itself.

          440. AKLady says

            The VA budget, spending and overruns are publishes on the government budget website.

            Yes, we arw still accumulating costs from both WW I and WW II. Budget deficits are causing markedly increasing debt. Teh Bush tax cuts have caused huge debt increases.

          441. jreb57 says

            “The Bush tax cuts have caused huge debt increases”
            The Bush tax cuts (you left out for the wealthy) were allowed to expire several years ago. Government revenues have reached all time highs but deficit spending continues. Bush has not been president for 7 years. At some point Obama has to accept responsibility for his actions and quit blaming his predecessor. There is nothing in the budget for WW1 or WW2 expenditures. In any case, there were Democrat administrations in power when we became involved in both wars and it was a decision by both administrations to enter the war whether or not you may agree with the reasons for doing so.

          442. AKLady says

            Bad news for you.
            Congress spends the money.
            Congress makes the laws.
            By the way, the federal fiscal yeae runs October 01 through September 30.

          443. jreb57 says

            “I guess you think Obama should have said — I’m now in charge, get on
            the planes and come home, the war is offically over as of January 21,
            He did in 2011. Woodrow Wilson (a Democrat) helped formulate the Treaty of Versailles which placed the sole blame on Germany for WW1. Refusing to pay reparations to France and England for WW1 was one of the few things Hitler did right.

          444. AKLady says

            Please read the treaties signed by Bush, and approved by Congress before Obama took office.

          445. Justice says

            Nations like Israel, Czechoslovakia, and many others have joined the bandwagon. They’re telling their people to live in America and prosper financially while becoming dual citizens. In Israel, the despicable authorities will allow any Jew-even murderers and rapists-to immigrate. Now, such criminals are coming here to the U.S.A.-and the INS is letting them in.

          446. AKLady says

            Your statement is totally false.
            Please get help
            There is a community mental health clinic near you.

          447. Justice says

            Mohammed was a WARRIOR;
            Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

          448. AKLady says

            Please get help
            There is a community mental health clinic near you.

          449. Will says

            You spam insults.

          450. Justice says

            Muhammad killed and plundered many people. During the Nakhla Raid, he sent some of his thugs to loot a caravan killing one man and enslaving others. This was his first battle. Do you wonder why so many terrorists are Muslims? The acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.

            The “prophet” Muhammad did not even foresee his own death in 632 A.D. As a result, he left no instructions for his successors. Soon there were warring sects in Islam such as the Shiites and Sunnis who fight to this day. So not only are Muslims fighting infidels like Christians and Jews, they are fighting each other!

          451. AKLady says

            Sily, silly human —
            You are playing the my religion is better than your religion game.
            Christians have been murdering for centuries.

          452. Justice says

            Other sections of the Hadith deal with Muhammad’s “seal of prophethood,” a fatty lump growing between his shoulders; his prowess as a shaman who controlled the jinn (spirits) who lived in the rocks and trees; his epileptic type seizures when he had a “revelation.”

            Fanciful miracles are also attributed to Muhammad in the Hadith. To prove he was Allah’s prophet, he once supposedly cut the moon in half with his sword, calmed a crying baby palm tree by caressing its trunk, caused water to flow from his fingernails to slack the thirst of his followers and ate shouting bread which loudly praised Allah while he chewed.

          453. jreb57 says

            Australia and Canada joined the allied effort in WW2 and Korea. Sweden, Norway and Finland were occupied by Germany in WW2. Iceland served as an antisubmarine base during WW2. Obama has run up more debt in his 7+ years in office than all of the previous presidents combined.

          454. AKLady says


            Maybe you should learn the difference between debt and deficit.

            Then, you might also learn about budget overruns.

            The largest contributing factor to the huge debt increase are the Bush tax cuts. Bush economics are worse than Reagan economics. He started two wars, significantly increasing spending and cut revenue by lowering taxes. Those tax cuts have added almolst $2.6 trillion to the debt.

            Then there was the shortfall in healthcare spending. Congress failed to take inflation into consideration. Consequently, Medicare ans Medicaid were underfunded. Bush added the Medicare Part D benefit, but failed to fund it.

            Then there was the Bush recession. That recession amount to one of the largest chunks of the debt build-up. It eroded Americans’ income and spending.

          455. jreb57 says

            A deficit occurs when you spend more money than you take in. A debt is an accumulation of deficits paid for with borrowed monies. Right now, we run deficits of about 600 billion dollars which is added to the debt. Obama ran on reducing the debt, but because of his unwillingness to reach a deal with congress (he had a super-majority for the first two years of his presidency) he will have doubled the debt during the 8 years of his administration. As Margaret Thatcher said “Pretty soon you run out of other people’s money”. We seem to do that on an annual basis. I don’t think you have any better understanding of economics than you do of History..

          456. AKLady says

            WHen backed into a corner, the right wing sligs insults.
            You have the world’s collective knowledge at your finger tips.
            Maybe you shoild avail yourself of that knowledge.


            Obama did not start the Iraqui war — spending related to that war continues today, under contracts let more than a decade ago.

            Obama did not start the Afghanistan War spemdng related to that war continues today. under contracts ket over a decade in the past.

          457. Peatro Giorgio says

            When back into a corner or confronted with either the truth or a different view point. Progressive an liberal demo rats always counter with the obvious actions of Obfuscation, Diversion, deflect. Further more your explanation of debt and deficits is Assnine. Debt is monies owed . Deficit is that spending beyond the budget available revenues . The payment on both wars is on the side of monies barrowed already allocated for in the preceding annual budgets. The deficits on the other hand are monies spent above those a counted for in each months revenues. That’s deficit spending an Barrack Obama is king of deficit spending King of further increasing the nation Debt and further dragging us deeper into deficit spending. Stop with the bullshit line he is still paying for the wars . His actually debt discounts the cost of the war debt. So please enough of the diversionary tactics.

          458. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss.
            Congress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            Previous administration spending does not end when a new President is elected.

          459. jreb57 says

            “Previous administration spending does not end when a new President is elected”
            The president is supposed to submit a budget request for approval by congress. Congress rarely gives the president all he wants. If the president does not sign off on it the government shuts down. The last two times this happened was when the Democrats had the White House. The previous administration is no longer responsible for running the government after leaving office in the real world.

          460. AKLady says

            Previous administration spending does not end when a new President is elected.

            That spending was approved under the previous administration.

            Congress has placed America in danger by shutting down the government.

          461. jreb57 says

            “Previous administration spending does not end when a new President is elected”
            It sure as hell does. Budgets are made on an annual basis. When the 2015 budget year ends, you are spending monies appropriated for the next year.

          462. AKLady says

            I have very bad news for you — multi-year contracts can, and do, span multiple administrations. The spending continues for the life of the contract.

          463. AKLady says

            Multi-year contracts frequently span more than one administration.
            Maybe you should learn how your government actually operates.

          464. glorybe2 says

            When backed into a corner the right wing is so dumb that they can not construct simple sentences or have any grasp of truth at all.

          465. AKLady says


          466. jreb57 says

            Sounds to me like you are the one in the corner having trouble with syntax.

          467. jreb57 says

            “You have the world’s collective knowledge at your finger tips.
            Maybe you shoild avail yourself of that knowledge.”

            Maybe you should avail yourself of spellcheck.
            You also have the collective BS of the world at your fingertips. Better have a good BS filter. Obama could not even get a budget approved when he had a super majority in congress. Even the Democrats thought he spent too much.The problem was spending more than income which adds to a debt. He has added more to the debt than the sum of all previous presidents. Sounds like Germany in 1932. Obama may have paid to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan, but he walked away from Iraq and all but walked away from Afghanistan wasting the money, lives and sacrifices of patriotic Americans.

          468. AKLady says

            The rightwing “fact filter” is simply amazing.

            RIghtwingers believe anything they are told by their controllers.

            Suggest you take a long look at the “Deficit” data.

            Debt is cumulative. There is WW II spending still being added to the national debt.
            May I suggest that you read the treaty signed by Bush and approved by Congress? Your statenents regarding Obama and Iraq are false, total lies.

            The Right continually lies. First they scream Obama should have violated Congress and kept the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq going. Now, the new lie — Obama sent troops to Lybia without asking COngressional approval.

            If anuone walked away from either Afghanistan or Iraq, it was Bush and the U.S. Congress.

          469. jreb57 says

            You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. I am an individualist. I believe nothing that contradicts what I have already determined to be true. Obama ran on abandoning Iraq. It will now cost him credibility. He could claim that going into Iraq was the wrong thing to do, but he will play hell trying to claim that bailing out was the right thing to do. Whenever the Democrats screw up (which is often) it is always someone else’s fault

          470. AKLady says

            Again, I suggest that you read the treaty signed by Bush and approved by Congress?
            Treaties made into law by Congress are not opinions.

          471. AKLady says

            You need to study the federal revenue cycle.

            You also need to study the federal fiscal year.

            The defecits to which you speak include contracts that date to WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan …

            The debt tripled under Saint Reagan.
            The debt doubled under King Bush II.

            What parts of the budget do you believe should be dropped?
            I would start with all the $billions we give to othee countries.
            I would als ban the purchase of foreign military equipment.

          472. glorybe2 says

            Our gifts to foreign nations are a tiny fraction of our budget. Our gifts to industry are quite large such as military expenses keeping the Arab oil flowing and resultant wars. If we want a sane budget we have no real choice other than vastly reducing our military which might be the wise thing to do for more than one reason. We also need to get rid of the high pay and benefits given to representatives and senators. Other tactics that may be of help is closing down numerous highways and getting passenger trains to a whole new level of service to the public. In WW2 we were able to win due to the huge abilities of our rail systems. Today the rail system is gutted and ruined and passenger service is horrid.

          473. AKLady says

            When George W. Bush was president and the Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress. At that time, the basic congressional salary went from $169,300 to $174,000, its current level.
            The majolrity of CEOs make over two times that much.
            One cannot expect to have competent people managing the government if they are not willing to pay for those skills.

          474. jreb57 says

            “The majolrity of CEOs make over two times that much.
            One cannot expect to have competent people managing the government if they are not willing to pay for those skills”
            The majority of CEOs probably make 4 times that much, but then the companies they manage provide goods and services that people want rather than rules and regulations that they don’t want..

          475. AKLady says

            The government provides goods and services.
            Vital good and services.
            You simply choose to ignor that fact.

          476. jreb57 says

            “Vital good and services”
            The government just needs to do the job it is constitutionally authorized to do like provide for the common defense and quit worrying whether or not some one has or even wants health insurance or some other nefarious progressive program.

          477. AKLady says

            Maybe yoi should look at what an epideic does to a country?
            Maye you should look at what epidemics did to this country?

            The anti-vacers caused a few small epidenics recently.

            Ignorance is said to be bliss.
            You seem pretty blissful,

          478. glorybe2 says

            On that i disagree. We have school teachers earning less than 25K per year in some places. Most are well educated and very able. Frankly it takes more ability to be a teacher than a congressman. Further when we get into the salary range of the elite they have way too much tendency to be part of the rich elements in our society. We need people in office who have been part of the poorest portion of the public as adults not just as children as well as some from the lower section of the middle class. And we should make all government employees subject to the same conditions the public faces. For example have all governmental workers use Obama Care exclusively for themselves and their families. Their retirement should consist of Social Security alone as that is what most Americans have. As for pay 35K a year is generous. Keep in mind that to win an election a great smile and a pretty face and a proclamation that you love mom, God and apple pie can put a person in Congress, the Senate or even the White House. We have never had any real test of abilities or character attached to running for office. Yet we sure do test those school teachers. And if a teacher is assigned to a school deep in a poverty pocket in which even fifth graders can be dangerous to the teachers that teacher can be fired if these neglected and out of control kids to not show academic improvement. If those same kids want to get a teacher fired all they need do is deliberately screw up on the F-Cat and other milestone testings.

          479. AKLady says

            Ine of my friends in Mikwaukee, WI was a teacher in the impoverished area. Her sutdents were mostly black and Hispanic.

            In her classroom students had to share textbooks. There was up to ten (10) children sharing the same old, worn, damaged book.

            You see, In Wisconsin, they found a way to continue discrimination. It is called Tax Base. The amount of taxes paid in an area determiened the level of services that area would receive.

            I have been a disability advocatw for years. One of my Milwaukee clients was discharged froma county hospital after 9:00 PM, basically put out the door without her “locked up” personal belongings. She had no way to get home. Even if she had, she couold not have gotten into her home no keys.

          480. glorybe2 says

            I have an even weirder hospital story for you. I have a step son who suffers from manic depression and is also a drug addict. A county judge ordered him held inside a mental hospital in a drug treatment ward. Ar about 2:30 in the afternoon I got a call from the mental hospital to come and get the jerk or he would be put on the curb. So I rushed through heavy traffic for 40 miles to get there. They then explained that he was too dangerous to hold in the ward and to protect the staff and other patients i had to get him out of there. They were rigid in their belief and would not relent. I asked them if he was so dangerous that a staff of orderlies could not control him just how was I supposed to do that. But out the door we went. At that point it dawned on me that I had best protest in order to protect myself from any mayhem that might result. So I stopped at the security office before exiting through the guarded entrance and complained that I was ordered to remove the patient because he was too dangerous to be in a mental hospital. It was only a few days before he was in the wind and when I filled out a missing person’s report it took a couple of weeks for the cops to bag him. What he did during those days of being missing I will never know.

          481. Peatro Giorgio says

            Your out of your mind. Consider the 348 billion our nation has contributed to the UN. Our nation contributes hundreds of billions of dollars to many 2nd an 3rd world nations where as our military budget has declined every single year Obama has been in office . Leaving our military at its weakest , unready an unprepared. Our navy is at lowest ship levels since world war 1. Many of you left fringe lunatics. Won’t join to defend the nation . And your all the very same load mouth non contributing losers who run of with your vomit spewing mouths about taxing the rich . But all you losers never contribute to charitable cause never give a single dime to help the poor . I’ve never ever witness a liberal puke serving at a soup kitchen or serving at a shelter . Or at an aids clinic. Every single progressive liberal bastard I’ve ever meet and it has been many through the years. Would not lift a finger to help those in need . But they all for dam sure ran their mouths , and always attempted to take credit for what they had NOT DONE.

          482. glorybe2 says

            Stone age thinking and lies in your remarks tell me a lot. First our need for ships can not be compared to our need for ships in WW1. Back then ships were a mighty weapon. Now a ship is an easy target. Build a big ship. Five miles above in the sky and one mile of target a small nuclear bomb is detonated. You super ship turns into vapor. We have the ability to fight wars without the use of troops and with very little need of being on any foreign soil. This is exactly why Vietnam was such a tragedy. We never had a need to send any troops at all there. All we need do is assess whether they really were a threat to us or not. It happens that they were not a threat at all. But if they were we should have simply erased them from the face of the Earth. The entire war would have taken less than 10 minutes and we would have not lost a single soldier. But a few nuclear bombs don’t cost that much and the war criminals could not profit by selling arms to everyone in sight. So we sent in a bunch of boys and created a vast expense that supported the military-industrial complex for over a decade. We are playing the same game with Somalia and Iran. If they really want to be a problem, we should just eliminate them. If we had made an example of N. Korea back in 1950 none of the nonsense nations would dare have offended us in any way. Bomb them back to the stone age. It is cheap and effective. But the US public is so messed up that they are even upset about drones killing terrorists. Our public does not have a clue. We fore bombed Tokyo and killed 150,000 civilians in a single night. We leveled Dresden Germany and Dresden was not even a military target. That killed about 150,000 people as well. the theory was that German soldiers would not want to continue with the war if they realized they would have no families or homes to go home to when the war was over. Having a very big stick means absolutely nothing when the entire world thinks you can not use that big stick. The size and power of our military is absurd. Yet even people on camels do not mind enraging us.

          483. Peatro Giorgio says

            First Off You have proven beyond any reasonable doubt . The idiot you are. Second is you so very elegantly proven you have absolutely no understanding or Comprehension of warfare or warfare tactics. Which means you’ve never ever had the privilege or taken the privilege to serve our nation. Next comment Is so right on point as to be non debatable. Your an Idiot. Surface vessels will never be without need .here’s why you ignorant jackass. Their are a multitude of weapons systems types. Conventional ,chemical, biological. Nuclear. And O yes Sound system and of course ! an a ray of Laser type weapons. Then there are there delivery systems. None of these were ever considered by true morons such as your self. Each of these weapons ,each form of their delivery systems , have stated purposes and needs among the Four Braces of our Armed Forces. Which by the way contain many specialty divisions. No only morons would disregard any of these four branches. Remember this when the Electro magnetic pluses weapons are used and our nation an other nations comes under attacks of those type weapons . It is an will be the conventional delivery systems and their convention weapons that will be left to fight the war. ” Moron ” . Further more moron when nuclear war is going on . Most every other non convention system is done. ” Moron “.So now who is the liar moron. One more point Morin I personally volunteered, to serve. And I served in two of branches of our armed forces The navy and the army. And while serving I developed a great understanding of many of these same systems having served as a gunner. Moron. So please take your progressive ignorance and shut the hell up. Go play with all the other noncontributing, blood sucking leaches, single dimensional thinking Troglodyte’s. You’ve been forever tagged as the idiot you are.

          484. glorybe2 says

            Before you call anyone an idiot get a close, educated friend to proof read your posts if you have such a friend. You can not compose simple sentences. That tells me that you have no real knowledge of the military at all. The US has a military industrial complex that is eating our resources alive. And it is not an intelligent method of handling modern conflicts. Do you honestly think any sane nation would offend us if they were dead certain that we would deliver a full nuclear attack in revenge? Foreign enemies realized exactly what George Washington realized over 200 years ago. Hide behind a rock or a tree and best to have no uniforms at all.

          485. Peatro Giorgio says

            Well I see you were so confident in your reproach. You chose not to defend your idiocy
            But rather to point out my deficiencies in Grammar . So to conclude anything other then you are a complete idiot. Would be extremely unlikely. As Far as your first example . The detonation of a nuclear weapons air burst at a range of five Miles vaporizing a ship. That might happen if that ship had no counter measures you freaking idiot. You have heard of ship to surface missile and ship to air missile have you not you freaking Troglodyte’s Cavern dwelling Monad, Monad’s are single cell life forms Troglodyte’s are cave dwelling life forms Hence your a Species who has yet to reach the development plateau of the mere Troglodyte .

          486. Peatro Giorgio says

            Yes the Debt Double under Reagan in the last half of his second term when he had to deal with a tax an spend happy demo rat Majority in the house.

          487. jreb57 says

            Government revenues doubled under Reagan. It was then as it is now a spending problem.

          488. Peatro Giorgio says

            Exactly my brother.

          489. AKLady says

            No Peatro, the debt almost tripled under Reagan.
            Bush lowered taxes and increased spending.
            Reagan did the same.
            YOu can make all the exucuses uou want. Fact is fact.

          490. glorybe2 says

            Yes but add on the fact that Reagan and Bush almost destroyed our nation using absurd economic strategies. Educated people gasped when they heard Reagan come out with trickle down economics. Just before all hell broke lose in 1929 the rich had captured so much wealth that the entire system crashed. Nothing could be sold as the rich had all the money and the public could not afford anything at all. The rich got all the money and sat on it. nothing trickled down at all. We were well into WW2 before that economic holocaust was over.

          491. AKLady says

            Lower taxes on the 1%.
            Increase government spending.
            Increase national debt to pay for the spending.
            Our grandchildren’s children will still be paying for the Bush II wars.
            Same goes for the Reagan debt.

          492. glorybe2 says

            Compare the rampant inflation that was taking place during those years with government income. Inflation adjusted I wonder if one inch or progress took place for a period of about 40 years. With 1,000 % inflation our dollars became worth a dime. In 1960 a brand new suburban three bedroom home with extras including a swimming pool in an upscale neighborhood cost less than 35K. Now even in a depressed housing market that same home now old and outdated will sell at 300K or maybe more. In that era a home mortgage was often under 440. per month. A gallon of gas was about 23 cents. A loaf of white sandwich bread was 19 cents. In 1960 at Burger king a whopper with cheese, fries and a large Coke was less than a dollar and i believe it was the large fries at that. Now it would be 8 bucks and change and probably no tomato on the Whopper as tomatoes are now considered too expensive.

          493. jreb57 says

            “Bush lowered taxes and increased spending.
            Reagan did the same”
            No, Reagan simplified the tax brackets and raised the cap on payroll taxes (social security and medicare more commonly known as FICA) This was done to make social security solvent. Adjusting the tax brackets meant a lower tax rate for the very rich (they already pay a lower rate thanks to their lawyers and accountants). The lower rates were to incentivize investment which it did. Government revenues doubled under Reagan and Reagan sought to cut spending but he was dealing with a Democrat congress which wanted to spend more money so he only got a few cuts. His choice would be to veto the spending bills which would shut down the government. It was not nearly as big then as it is now.

          494. AKLady says

            The Constitutions veto authority is there for all Presidents to use.
            Regan did none of those things you claim. Congress makes the laws, a President simply signs them.

          495. jreb57 says

            .”What parts of the budget do you believe should be dropped?”
            Most of the unfunded social programs should be fazed out

            “I would start with all the $billions we give to othee countries”
            I would agree with that

            “I would als ban the purchase of foreign military equipment”
            I would agree with the exception for purchases for the purpose of reverse engineering. Since we make the best military equipment, we buy very little of this from other countries. It does not make sense to buy military equipment from a foreign country from a security standpoint.

          496. AKLady says

            How do you define “unproductive”?
            How would you have taxes collected?
            Social Security is already taxed.
            Some welfare benefits are taxed.
            Some people favor a federal sales tax.
            However, that form would hit the poor the hardest.

          497. jreb57 says

            “Some people favor a federal sales tax.
            However, that form would hit the poor the hardest.”
            There would be no tax on food or medicine as is the case with state sales taxes. The taxes would be collected the same way and by the same people as state sales taxes. There would be no tax on income. Repeal the 16th amendment (income tax) The government would spend less money collecting taxes. The IRS would lose most of their coercive power. Every time you bought something you would be aware of how much tax you paid and every one would have some skin in the game. It would no longer be necessary to treat corporations as individuals and would put a serious crimp in crony capitalism.

          498. AKLady says

            It woild still harm the poor.
            A loss of any percentage of income is significant to them.
            What do you mean by no longer treating corporaitons as indiiduals?
            They would still be subject to the same sales tax as humans, or do you simply want to toss that income to the 1%.
            Everyone pays taxes, just not the same taxws. Everyone has “skin in the game”.

          499. jreb57 says

            “You need to study the federal revenue cycle.”

            “You also need to study the federal fiscal year.”

            No, they need to study me so they will know what a balanced budget looks like. I can’t print money, so I must balance my budget. No one in their right mind will lend an old fart like me money because I might die before I can pay it back.

          500. AKLady says

            Ignorance is bliss.

          501. jreb57 says

            Feeling blissful yet?

          502. Justice says

            At Harvard University in Massachusetts, Osama Bin Laden’s oil-rich family has donated four million dollars. The catch: To get the tainted money, Harvard had to agree to teach their students “Islamic law.”

          503. AKLady says

            Much of the world’s law os derived from Arabic sources.

            Roman law was also heavily influenced by Arabic law.

            Harvard Law Scholl has taught international law courses sunce its beginings.

            The Islamic Law program has been part of the school since 1991 — almost quarter of a century.

          504. Justice says

            Mohammed’s method was COMPULSION;
            Christ’s aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).

          505. AKLady says

            Please get help.

            There is a community mental health clinic near you.

          506. Will says

            He has help.

          507. Justice says

            Islam calls on its followers to observe Five Pillars, while all other aspects of life can be vulgar and not affect the Muslim’s prospects in Paradise.
            The Bible calls on the Christian to submit to the total change of his life by the Spirit of God– NO area of life and thought is the choice of the follower. (Romans 12:1-2)

          508. AKLady says

            The Pillars of Sunni Islam: Faith, Prayer, Charity, Fasting and Pilgrimage to Mecca.

            The Pillars of Shia Islam: Oneness of God, Devine Justice, Prophetood, Succession to Muhammad and The Day of Judgement and Resurrection.

            The Islamic requirement do not differ significantly from the requirements of either Judaism or Christianity.

            Oh, and by the way, the most Christian person I have ever known was a Hindu.
            Christianity is not a religion, it is not a belief, it is a way of life.

          509. Justice says

            In Islamic countries you can be incarcerated and tortured without due process–this was all part of 7th century Arabia. The dictator could do whatever he wanted to. I read an article in the Washington Post about Saddam Hussein’s son. They said that he was a terror. One night he raped a woman and when she complained, he killed her. He did stuff like that all the time and one night he got shot up getting out of his car and was paralyzed.

          510. AKLady says

            Every country has the right to their own laws and their own judicial system.
            If you do not like a country’s systems, stay out of that country.

          511. Justice says

            There is the Jihad of the Sharia Law. Non-Muslims are degraded to a lower class status and are denied equal access to the law because their testimony is not valid against a Muslim. This even applies to murder (“No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel”). The death penalty is applied to anyone who renounces Islam and converts to another religion.

            When the wealthy Bedouins of Arabia professed faith in Allah to escape attack, Muhammad did not accept their confession. (“The desert Arabs say ‘We believe’. Say, ‘Ye have no faith; but ye (only) say ‘We have submitted.'” Surah 49:14) Islam does not place much value on personal faith, but demands surrender to the political rule of the Sharia.

            It is significant that the calendar of Islam does not begin with the birth of Muhammad, nor the onset of his supposed “revelation”, nor the assembling of the first Muslim community, nor the flight of Muslim refugees to Abyssinia. The 12 years of persecution in Mecca were not considered the start of their new religion. The Muslim calendar only begins when Islam became a political state in Medina.

          512. AKLady says

            Every people have the right to their own lawsm courts and customs.
            If you do not like a country’s systems, I suggest you simply do not travel there.

          513. Justice says

            Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Romans 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Ephesians 1:7).

          514. Peatro Giorgio says

            Then you read the later Surrey ‘ s in the Quran 51 – 57 and you find . Islam is not a religion of peace in fact it is quite the opposite. It is good to kill the infidels. Allah Calls us to jihad. It is good to lie to defend your faith.. Sure it is a religion of peace. That is what ever murdering terrorist wishes us to believe. And That is the story of a lying representative of Islam whom desires the infidels to think and believe. And Aka lady is one whom is one of their lying representatives

          515. AKLady says

            Read the Old Testament.

            Look at what the Catholics in Africa are doing.
            Look at what the Christians in Oklahoma did.

            Peatro, it is wrong to judge the whole by a few.

            Islam is second only to Christianity is size and global spread.

            If all Muslims were terrorists, you would probagbly alread be dead.
            Are the priests teaching hate these days at Mass?

          516. C6Vette says

            Could YOU point us in a direction, I am certain you know where they ALL are and probably used each and everyone of them!

          517. glorybe2 says

            Just type in mental hospital and the name of your town and state. Google will even display a map and tell you the mileage to get help.

          518. jreb57 says

            “There is a community mental health clinic near you”
            I thought you said Reagan closed them all. Oh and for your information, carbon dioxide is not a poisonous gas. You must be thinking of carbon monoxide which IS a poisonous gas. Guess they don’t teach chemistry in law school..

          519. AKLady says

            I guess you flunked biochemistry.

            I’d suggest you try living in a CO2 environment, but that would be a death sentence. Carbon dioxide is just as deadly for humans as is the single oxygen atom version.

            Most plants, on the other hand, thrive on CO2.

            Hopefully, if you use fossil fuel to heat and/or cook, your home is equiped with a CO2 detector. Concentrations of 7% to 10% (70,000 to 100,000 ppm) can cause suffocation — even in the presence of sufficient O2.

          520. glorybe2 says

            Actually Mohammed delivered two entirely different doctrines. Before he arrived at Mecca his doctrines were mild and liberal and kind. But with those preachings he could not attract a following. At Mecca he delivered a rather stern and militant set of doctrines and attracted a large following. But he did insist that Temples and Churches be respected and that Jews and Christians be allowed to celebrate their faiths without penalties or under threat. Just as Christians and Jews tend to ignore major parts of the faith followers of Islam also ignore many parts of their scriptures.

          521. Justice says

            Mosques are popping up all over this country and people are flocking to Islam. We Americans can be so stupid–we will forsake Jesus and go halfway around the world just to try to find another way we can get to heaven–it will only assure us of hell. Just like other false religions, Islam has many faces. Islam in America is much different from Islam in the Middle East. You hear, “they are hard working people” I do not doubt this–in America. But their holy book says something different–either you convert to Islam or die!

          522. Will says

            Arabic and islamic are two different birds. Islamic law is called sharia. CAIR has been opening doors for themselves into universities in this country pushing for sharia. Learn and tremble.

          523. AKLady says

            Maybe you should educate yourself. Ignorance and fear, the two pillars of bigotry, are powerful allies. Belief is emotional and always subjective.

            Sharia law – the code of law derived from the Koran and from the teachings and example of Mohammed.

            Halakha the collective body of Jewish religious laws derived from the Written and Oral Torah.

            Catholic Canon law source of canon law is God, Whose will is manifested either by the very nature of things (natural Divine law), or by Revelation (positive Divine law). Both are contained in the Scriptures and in Tradition.

          524. C6Vette says

            Do you belong to ISIS, Al Qaeda, or similar? Certainly sounds that way!

          525. AKLady says

            Do you hate fact? Certainly sounds that way!

          526. C6Vette says

            @Will: Thank You!

          527. AKLady says


            Maybe you should tell that to Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Dijibuti,Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lenanon, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Sudan, Suria, Tunisia, ahnd the United Arab Emirates.

            They do not seem to know that.

          528. Will says

            There are 57 Islamic states many are not predominantly populated by Arabs.
            Muhammad invented islam in the latter 590’s. Rome is much older than islam, so the arabic law that roman law was partially based on, would not have been islamic. Arabic points to a race of peoples. Islam points to a social and religious system. They really aren’t synonymous. Uneducated westerners are likely to get the two mixed up, but Arabic and islamic are not the same.

          529. AKLady says

            The London has discovered documents in their collection that are older than Mahmoud.

          530. C6Vette says

            Were you let out of an insane asylum, or do they allow you access to a computer? Your Posts seem so idiotic and fictional I can not believe what I am reading that YOU Posted! Dumb as a Rock! Ovomit took office with an $8 Trillion Dollar Debt, he raised that 150% to $18.75 Trillion Dollars but I KNOW your going to blame Bush even though he has NOT been in office for over 7 years! Ovomit has a “Blame Bush Button” at his side at all times, probably close to his Teleprompter! Also you sound like Ovomit telling US that everything we know, or do came from the Islamic Community when the ONLY thing they know how to do well is cutting off the Heads of Live Innocent Human Beings that disagree with their 5th century mentality! Again your as dumb as a rock!

          531. glorybe2 says

            The catch is that Jewish laws from the ancient past were the same as Islamic laws by and large. The OT characters are idinticel but with different

          532. AKLady says

            Isn’t education a wonderdul thing?
            I find the self-imposed ignorance on the right to be very, very sad.

          533. jreb57 says

            “I find the self-imposed ignorance on the right to be very, very sad.”
            What you call self imposed ignorance is in reality the existence of a BS filter.

          534. AKLady says

            Call it what you want.
            The resulting ignorance remains the same.

          535. jreb57 says

            “The catch is that Jewish laws from the ancient past were the same as Islamic laws by and large.”
            The Muslims seem to be stuck in that period. That is why they insist on bringing a knife to a gunfight. They are about to pay a price for their mistake.

          536. Peatro Giorgio says

            Your right isn’t education great. The problem is you seem not to have learned much. For your spelling is abhorrent. Further more Islamic law came about 1000 years after God’s 613 commandments were give to the Jews. Further more The Quran was written by Mohammed s scribe and dictated by Mohammed. Was accomplished by Plaggerizing both the new and old Testament. While convoluting, the old an new Testaments test. Islam 662 bc . Well after the Jews reached the promise land. 800 hundred years before Mohammed drank camel piss and had his hallucinations that he flew over Jerusalem.

          537. AKLady says

            You are right. Education is great.
            You might want to try some.
            I freely admit to being a very bad typist.

          538. AKLady says

            Government of the people, by the people, for the people …
            Apparently, you believe other people, in other countries, do not have that right?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to ridicule the religious belief’s of others?

          539. Peatro Giorgio says

            What Harvard an all other liberal college s an Universities failed to teach is from what sources was the original formation of mans law, natural law, Gods law. Needless to say , it was not from the Aramaic nations. Who have always used Sharia . Which by the way has only existed for the past 1600 years . Judism 4000 plus years Christianity over 2000 years . Talk is cheap when one is clueless.

          540. AKLady says

            Learn something before ou speak embarassing America.
            Man wrote “God’s Law”.
            Religion is simply another layer of power and control.
            All religion teaches hate in one form or another.
            Christianity’s message is basically “Believe my way or burn in hell”.

          541. AKLady says

            Talk is cheap when one is clueles, as you seem to be. Before making such sweeping statements, you should first learn what nations are/were Aramaic.

            A large part of the Hebrew and Arabic languages is borrowed from Aramaic, including the Alphabet. The first known inscriptions of Aramaic date to the late tenth or early ninth century B.C.

            Aramaic is the ancient language of the Semitic family group, which includes the Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Arameans, Hebrews, and Arabs.

            For istoryof law. I suggest you find a copy of “Ethnographic Atlas” by George Murdock, University of Pittsburgh Press, (1967).

          542. Peatro Giorgio says

            Like Italian,Spanish,French,Portuguese, Greek Is derived from The Latin. Aramaic Languages, are all derive from one source. However had you google searched a bit further .You certainly then would or should have noted that the ancient Hebrew’s of 4,500 years ago considered the Ancient Aramaic languages to have been foreign to them.
            Again this time however with a bit more clarity, so as not to confuse a simple minded individual, whom posses little understanding . Sharia Law is and was ! Post Mohammad, Not Pre. Mohammad. Sharia law had not occurred until 2,400 years after Hebrew Law. You know those Hebrew laws to have been the original 613 Commandments, Sharia Law had not occurred until 400 plus years after Christ. Your claims of being a Harvard Graduate, Are truly remarkable Frankly rather hard to believe. I doubt very much that you ever attended a single class or lecture at either
            a college or University. Let alone Harvard where rigorous study is required How in Gods name did you escape from the center for the mentally deranged. Yes we all know you had stated anyone can be anything they may wish to be on the internet. ” It must be evident that simple isn’t true. If one isn’t intelligent the internet won’t assist you to hide your deficiencies.. The internet shall merely, magnifies them .

          543. glorybe2 says

            That is a total lie and Obama is not from an oil rich family at all. Do they have a special news service for people suffering from psychosis?

          544. Peatro Giorgio says

            Glory be By a freaking pair of reading glasses . Justice wrote Osama bin Laden. Not Barrack Hussain Obama. Further more he is correct Osama Family is an was wealthy oil rich.

          545. glorybe2 says

            Again your reply is in spastic English. Have you seen the homes that Obama grew up in? Lower middle class would be the best description. Rich people do not live in homes like that.

          546. jreb57 says

            “That is a total lie and Obama is not from an oil rich family at all”
            Good lord! Please tell me you know the difference between Obama and Osama (bin Laden)

          547. AKLady says

            That is an issue you have.

          548. Justice says

            There was no concept of personal freedom in Muhammad’s seventh century Arabia, so no Islamic country today is a democracy. They are all run by dictators as in the days of Muhammad.

          549. jreb57 says

            Do they have a special news service for people suffering from psychosis?
            Yeah MSNBC.

          550. glorybe2 says

            If you think that Reagan economics and bush economics were bad news then put Trump in office. Trump will cause such a meltdown with his nonsense that we will not be a nation anymore. Not only does the creep want to put a chicken in every pot but he claims a solid gold goose will be in the same pot and nobody will have to pay for it.

          551. AKLady says

            The idea of Trump in the White House should terrify voters.
            The Trumps of the world are not nice guys.
            They do not get where they are by following the law.

          552. jreb57 says

            Trump has lots of money. He will therefore be less tempted to steal.

          553. AKLady says

            I agree 100%.
            No one becomes as rich as he has without breaking many laws.

          554. jreb57 says

            “a chicken in every pot”
            A promise of socialism. At taxpayer expense of course.

          555. glorybe2 says

            Yes after baby Bush and the right wing wiped out the US economy in order to save our nation our president did spend some money. As of right now there are still 12 million US homes to be repossessed by the banks. That is what the right wing created. That has caused very few new homes to be built and as a result working people are paying rents so high they can afford next to nothing else. Do you expect people to put up with economic suffering without turning either to crime or rebellion?

          556. Peatro Giorgio says

            So pea size brain . I as an independent find the need to correct your revisionist history . With the facts, which you happen to have left out of your little blathering rant. Fact #1 in the year 2002 G. W. BUSH began warning the nation and The Congress about the pending housing Bubble. Fact # 2 he did so right on up an until the day of the housing market crash. The Bubble burst.. Fact #3. The market crash and the housing Bubble were all interconnected. Fact #4 both were the direct cause of the banking and mortgage Landing policies of the demo-rats The demo -rats thought it good to give home loans at low interest rates to folks with bad credit, no credit ,no job and no means by which to make their mortgage payment. Now we can blame both Chris Dodd, And Barney Frank. Both demo-rats who were chairmen of the banking and finance committee. They wrote the banking legislation . That directed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to provide those bad loans. Now don’t you feel stupid. For it is a mere independent whom had to correct you obvious ignorance.

          557. glorybe2 says

            I am very aware of the low interest loan challenges. Guess why those policies were put in place. Banks and other lenders had been using red lines to exclude some ethnic groups from buying homes. The low interest loan policies were an effort to get people who were being excluded from home ownership due to their race. Bankers, being notorious conservatives twisted laws and filled out false applications for mortgages. Many homes can not even produce any ownership documentation at all . So people like Fannie Mae make claims to ownership of homes but can only say it is on their computer and produce absolutely zero documents to show ownership. I am in appeals court with Fannie Mae at this time over one of the condominiums in our association being claimed by Fannie Mae with that exact issue. They do not want to pay back fees and it took them over four years to claim ownership of that property.

          558. jreb57 says

            Red lining was meant to prevent lending institutions from making loans in areas where property values were declining. The community reinvestment act mandated that a certain percentage of an institution’s loan portfolio had to be made in these areas. The repeal of Glass Steagall allowed these sub prime loans to be sold as mortgage backed securities on the stock market. While a noble idea (to promote home ownership) it was like most progressive economics colossally stupid and a bad deal for every one except Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick.

          559. glorybe2 says

            That was a false claim or excuse for red lining districts. If the issue was falling property prices all the bank need do is make mortgage loans based upon the future value of those properties rather than exclude them from borrowing. Look at how property values collapsed in the upscale areas under Bush. A $350,000 dollar home could be worth as little as 90K when that crash hit. So why do banks now not refuse loans to upscale housing units?

          560. Will says

            Had they been allowed to continue to do that it wouldn’t have changed the ‘opportunities’ of the destitute very much. An 80% loan was difficult enough to swing and had the banks been allowed to continue underwriting loans, those 80% loans would have been reduced to 60% or less. Destitute people can’t afford to buy property. ‘Loaning’ money to the destitute is essentially a temporary gift. America couldn’t afford it then and can’t Afford it now. Freddy and fanny are bankrupt. Loan availability isn’t the problem. A flooded labor market, causing a drastic decline in living standards (since at least 1973) is the problem. The community reinvestment act masked the problem but the ‘fix’ was temporary and the damage is now everywhere.

          561. Will says

            The crux of the many ‘truths’ involved in the devastating crash. Reinstitution of Glass-Steagall is the only hope for this country’s continued economic survival. It was blocked by the ‘elite’s boys’ (and girls) in congress. Both fake parties. Our double-crossin’ hired guns have turned their guns on us.

          562. AKLady says

            Insult away, baby boy.
            It is your reputstion that is being harmed.
            Keep repeating those right-wing talking points.
            Government writes legislarion (Laws).
            Commissions write regulstions which enforce legislarion.
            Please learn how your government works.

          563. Peatro Giorgio says

            Of course The Congress writes legislation. And it was the demo -rats that wrote the legislation. And it was written during the Clinton Administrations First term by The very demo – rats I have previously named Demo rat Chris Dodd and faggot boy Barney the pinko Franks.. Now I know All you demo -rats try as best you can to bury the truth. Hide the truth and deny the truth. At each and every turn. But the Congressional records are never erased. They are kept by the non partisan Congressional historians. And here’s one more fact. There exist those who except nothing but the truth. And I am one of those. So your out right lies an attempts to revise history will always fall far short of your goal.

          564. AKLady says

            If you are going to tell Americans how to run their country,
            I suggest you master the English language.
            Human lives are not well-served by bigotry and politics.

          565. jreb57 says

            Peatro is making more sense than you.

          566. AKLady says

            Of ourse, you think that. He agrees with you.

          567. jreb57 says

            ” He agrees with you”
            On some things. He doesn’t have to agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but they are not entitled to their own facts. I don’t let others do my thinking and I hope Peatro does not either.

          568. Peatro Giorgio says

            See There in lays the difference between you and I . For you an the demo- rats everything is about telling other people how to live their lives . For folks such as myself it’s about taking our God given freedoms back from losers like
            you ,the lying demo-rats; yes I’ll include the liberal lying rinos Re pukes. We could careless how you all live your lives, just so long as it does not intrude on ours.
            See your first words, your first thought was about telling others how to live.
            My first thoughts are how do we rid all of society all of man kind ,free all of the Good people of this world from the control freak ,leach losers like your self. ( ” 1 billion bullets ” )

          569. AKLady says

            Keep those insults coming.
            Americans speak English.
            Maybe you should learn our language.
            Childish name calling impresses no one.
            However, it does speak volumes in regard to your credability.

          570. jreb57 says

            “Americans speak English”
            The vast majority do and it would help understanding if everyone did. But I am guessing that if you ask most immigrants why they came here they would tell you it is to have the freedom and opportunity to live their lives as they choose. .

          571. AKLady says

            Suggest you read the requirements for becoming a Naturalized American citizen.

            Please to note the one which states:

            “Be able to read, write, and speak basic English.”

          572. jreb57 says

            The key word here is citizen.