Trump Officially Guts Obama’s Job-Killing Coal Regulations

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EPA Chief Scott Pruitt made it official on Monday, announcing that the Trump administration was set to completely scrap President Obama’s so-called Clean Power Plan, a set of regulations that was intended to cut down on emissions generated by coal-fired power plants. At an event in Hazard, Kentucky, Pruitt made the announcement that the administration would eliminate the program on Tuesday, bringing to an end a matter the Supreme Court put on hold nearly a year ago.

Several months ago, President Trump signed an executive order directing the EPA to do a thorough, top-to-bottom review of the Clean Power Plan, demanding to know if the program was necessary to achieve U.S. policy goals regarding environmental protection. The answer, of course, is a resounding no. President Obama’s EPA devised the regulations as part of the administration’s efforts to play climate saviors, recklessly moving forward despite the obvious perils. Supporters praised Obama for taking proactive steps towards curbing emissions, but detractors said that the vague climate goals outlined by the EPA were not enough to excuse the federal overreach.

In a draft proposal leaked last week, the EPA said it had found that the CPP represented an expansion of regulatory power unauthorized by existing U.S. law.

“The EPA proposes to determine that the CPP is not within Congress’s grant of authority to the agency under the governing statute,” the agency wrote. “It is not in the interests of the EPA, or in accord with its mission of environmental protection consistent with the rule of law, to expend its resources along the path of implementing a rule, receiving and passing judgment on state plans, or promulgating federal plans in furtherance of a policy that is not within the bounds of our statutory authority.”

The CPP’s real-world effects were never tested because of a Supreme Court ruling that put the program on ice until several legal challenges could be heard by the courts. Those challenges may or may not be dropped at this point, but their conclusions will likely become moot seeing as how the administration has decided to revoke the rules.

Even without going into effect, however, Obama’s federal overreach had a detrimental impact on the economy. Utilities in several states had to cancel coal projects because they expected the regulations to be codified into law and coal-fired plants were forced to schedule full shut-downs in preparation for the rules. These plants determined it would not be possible to reduce emissions to fit within the boundaries of the regulations and remain fiscally viable.

How many jobs were lost? How much did energy prices go up in areas affected by just the THREAT of the Clean Power Plan? These questions will be answered soon, and they will form another piece of Obama’s sorry legacy.

The damage is done in some respects, but we salute the Trump administration for making sure that no further damage will be inflicted on America’s energy sector. This president can’t cure all of the ills of his predecessor, but he can damn well make sure that Obama’s eight-year reign of terror does not significantly outlive his tenure in office.

 

649 Comments
  1. Glen De Lough says

    Great News. A lot of jobs will be saved and families kept in their houses. Both of which are contrary to the Democrat agenda. The Dems want unemployment benefits and welfare to soar.

    1. chucky001 says

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      De Lough you are a low-IQ trumptard. The coal industry is DYING, not from regulations, but from competition from natural gas and other, cleaner energy sources. It cannot be saved, nor should it. If you and Pruitt did some basic research, you wouldn’t embarrass yourselves.

      1. Glen De Lough says

        Upchucky,

        Anyone that can post what you just did is the a low-IQ-Litard. When I see a decline in the number of coal trains heading East, that might believe the coal industry is declining. Then there are an equal number of trains heading West, I might believe the coal industry is declining. Coal is capable of many industrial processes that other energy sources find impossible.
        BTW: If you had a couple more millennia, you might convince yourself that the drivel you post is true.

        1. glock 19 fan says

          Not only that but coal is still the cheapest fuel per BTU; at least it was before the EPA and federal regulators were sicced on the coal industry like rabid dogs. And it also affected jobs in companies that contributed a lot toward cleaning up the mess. There was a study in Europe some years ago (that was largely ignored or suppressed) that disclosed, what is still not well known, that when coal was the principal fuel the buildings were dirty but there was no structural damage. However, when coal was becoming largely replaced by the “clean” fuels such as oil and gas stone fronts were being eaten away by acids of combustion. Why? Well, all fuels are burned in air which is 78% nitrogen and the inevitable result is oxides of nitrogen which combine with steam and/or water vapor to form nitric acid. Fly ash, however, is alkaline and tends to neutralize the acid. BTW, the same acids of combustion is a major reason we are advised to change the oil in our cars.

          Regarding Hillary, one of her campaign speeches promised to put the coal mining companies out of business and the mine workers out of a job. Saying that in Pennsylvania was political suicide.

          1. TexasCoyote1 says

            It was right up there with calling half the people in the United States “Deplorables.”

          2. Mathew Molk says

            I don’t know how the cackling witch got out of town alive after she said that,,,,but the royal exalted boma said the same thing and the PA electoral votes went to him. Go figure.

          3. anibanib says

            LIAR……….Not only that but coal is still the cheapest fuel per BTU……………..it is many many times more expensive than Swedens renewable fuels

        2. marshmil1789 says

          No Glen. He is already convinced that he is correct. Reading between the chucky lines we see that chucky001 is a Democrat. That friends, explains everything.

      2. cal3301 says

        How stupid are you? We exported coal, too. The whole thing with Obama was to make it so China and Russia had the monopoly on the coal business. That whole Paris deal enabled both those countries to expand their production while we limited ours.

        1. Retired says

          Some are just to stupid to see that , just like the US refining tar sand oil out of Canada so that we can pay a higher price at the pump and the market boys make more profit . Selling US crude oil was a big mistake .

        2. Mathew Molk says

          Guess who is our #1 customer for our filthy global warming coal? — FRANCE! Must be our coal is OK as long as it is not burned here. Paris Accord yourass.

          1. glock 19 fan says

            The Paris Accord also would allow European and Asian countries to keep building coal-fired plants while prohibiting us from doing the same That is in spite of the fact that we are far and away ahead of the rest of the world on environmental matters. The Paris Accord had little or nothing to do with environmental concern; it was simply an international slush fund paid for by US taxpayers with ecology as an excuse. Trump was absolutely right to pull out of that scam. He said, “Give us a better deal and we may be back.” Their response was, “Go pound sand; it’s a done deal and will not be undone.”

          2. cal3301 says

            Up yours!!! Did you read that according to it, China and Russia would continue to mine coal while Obama put the damper on ours. FYI, my grandfather was a coal miner. Coal is neither dirty or filthy unless you fall in it. It is one of the cheapest ways to heat a home. Nothing taste better than that cooked on an old coal stove. When I visited the coal mining towns, you couldn’t ask for cleaner smog free air to breathe. You know why? They were surrounded by trees!!!
            FYI, solar power causes 300 times more pollutants than nuclear power. I’ll take the coal, natural gas, and the nuclear over solar and wind any day. They at least produce the necessary power with little effort and don’t kill wildlife or pollute the scenery like the wind turbines or create the pollutants that solar does. Do the research!!!!

          3. Harold says

            Where did you get that? Did you guess? According to the American Geosciences Institute: Netherlands (15% of all exports), South Korea (9.5%), and India (8.5%).

          4. Retired says

            The French are good at F___ g things Up . How many times has the US cleaned up after them, they are UN guppies .

          5. Rodney Steward says

            Along with Merkel and her German fools that voted the BI back in! Probably rigged like half of ours!

          6. Retired says

            Actually they have it where the leading party can elect her and not the voters . that is how she got back in .She is also a UN Guppy .

          7. Rodney Steward says

            Absolutely, that’s why she got so mad at Trump when he said we need to get out of the UN, that’s a front for the NWO!!

          8. Rodney Steward says

            I thought it was CHINA, it was last year!!

          9. anibanib says

            LIAR, France have their own coal, and only 13% of their energy comes from coal

        3. pineapple says

          GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD WILL COST US DEARLY
          Brian Sussman is a conservative radio
          talk show host in ultraliberal San Francisco, and a former award
          winning television meteorologist and science reporter.
          Global
          warming is caused by variations in the amount of radiant energy emitted
          by the sun, and happens about every 1500 years. (See “Unstoppable global
          Warming Every 1500 Years” by Fred singer and Dennis Avery.)
          Al Gore is profiteering from the global warming hoax.
          While
          campaigning for President, Senator O’Bama said that under his plan for
          cap-and-trade, electricity rates would “necessarily sky rocket.”
          He also said that coal companies would become bankrupt.
          Congress
          refused to approve a cap-and-trade bill, so President O’Bama by-passed
          Congress directed the EPA to declare carbon dioxide as a “pollutant.”
          The EPA is forcing coal fired power plants to shut down.
          Electricity will be rationed and the cost to consumers will be in the billions.
          Houses
          will be required to have remotely controlled thermostats which will be
          controlled by power companies in order to ration energy consumption.
          If you read Climategate, you will learn the following:
          GORE THE CHARLATAN

          Al Gore is a charlatan who has made millions on the global warming
          scare, and is poised to enrich himself further by trading carbon credits
          on the Chicago Carbon Exchange, along with President Obama.
          Also,
          Gore leaves a carbon footprint the size of a medium sized town, with
          his multiple mansions, SUVs, and his private jet which spews carbon
          dioxide as he flits around the globe attending global warming
          conferences.
          His movie “An Inconvenient Truth ”contains convenient lies.

          For example, his graph showing a rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide
          levels corresponding to a rise in atmospheric temperature conveniently
          leaves out the fact that atmospheric temperatures rose several hundred
          years BEFORE atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rose.
          This is
          because, as atmospheric temperatures rose, (due to increased radiant
          energy from the sun), ocean temperatures eventually rose, and the
          solubility of carbon dioxide in the oceans decreased, causing carbon
          dioxide to evolve from the oceans. Also, as atmospheric temperatures
          decreased,(due to decreased radiant energy from the sun), ocean
          temperatures eventually decreased, causing carbon dioxide to be
          reabsorbed by the oceans.
          The transfer of heat from the atmosphere to
          the oceans takes several hundred years due to the massive amount of
          water in the oceans.
          SETTLED SCIENCE?
          Al Gore said the science is “settled”, and that global warming is man-made.
          The
          1992 Heidelberg Appeal was signed by 4,000 scientists, including
          seventy-two Nobel Prize winners—all skeptics of man-caused global
          warming. There is no consensus that global warming is man-made.
          Pseudo
          scientists who hype man-made global warming derive their incomes from
          government grants, thus they have an incentive to fan the flame of
          man-made global warming in order to continue to receive these
          government grants.
          Leading the charge in the fight against the climate liars is Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe.
          Included
          in Senator Inhofe’s roster is one of the dozen people who walked on the
          moon: Dr. Harrison Schmidt (Apollo 17, 1992). Schmidt, a Ph. D.
          geologist, shocked many by resigning from the highbrow Planetary Society
          that was founded by Carl Sagan. The society’s stated mission is “to
          inspire the people of the earth to explore other worlds, understand our
          own, and seek life elsewhere.” Predictably, this organization dove
          headfirst into the global warming tank.
          Unable to subject himself
          to such folly, Schmidt, who in the 1970’s also served as a U.S. Senator,
          presented a resignation statement.
          “As a geologist, I have Earth
          observations. But, it is ridiculous to tie this objective to a
          “consensus” that humans are causing global warming when human
          experience, geologic data, and history, and current cooling can argue
          otherwise.”
          The senator’s all star list includes a winner of the
          Nobel Prize for Physics, Dr. Ivar Giaever, who stated: “I am a
          skeptic….Global warming has become a new religion.”
          And the
          compilation of brain power reflects the thoughts of a former member of
          Greenpeace, Jarl R. Ahlbeck, a chemical engineer at Abo Akademi
          University in Finland and author of more than 200 scientific
          publications: “So far, real measurements give no ground for concern
          about a catastrophic future warming.”
          Government scientist Stanlry
          B. Goldberg of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s
          (NOAA) Hurricane Research Division, said : “It is a blatant lie put
          forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of
          scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic (manmade) global warming.”
          Another
          prominent scientist to sign on to Inhofe’s report is Joanne Simpson,
          the first woman to receive a Ph. D. in meteorology. The preeminent Dr.
          Simpson, formerly of NASA, has authored more than 190 scientific
          studies. She, too, has had enough. :Since I am no longer affiliated with
          any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite
          frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical….The main basis of the claim
          that man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is
          based almost entirely upon climate models. We all know the frailty of
          models concerning the air-surface system.”
          GREENHOUSE GASES

          It’s astounding to note that, of the gases on our atmosphere, the amount
          of carbon dioxide is almost imperceptible. By percentage, the gases are
          ordered as follows:
          Nitrogen 78.1%
          Oxygen 20.9%
          Water vapor 0.40%
          Argon 0.90%
          Carbon dioxide 0.038%
          Neon 0.002%
          Helium 0.005%
          Methane 0.002%
          Krypton 0.001%
          Hydrogen 0.0005%
          Nitrous oxide 0.0003%
          Ozone 0.000004%
          Carbon monoxide trace
          Carbon
          dioxide only accounts for a scant 38 thousandths of a percent of our
          planet’s atmosphere. It is known as a variable gas because, like water
          vapor, is has historically fluctuated. And what percentage of the
          miniscule amount of CO2 is produced by the activities of man, including
          the utilization of fossil fuels? According to a thorough analysis by the
          Carbon dioxide Information Analysis Center, a research wing of the U.S.
          Department of Energy, it is only 3.207 percent.(Stated another way,
          man-made carbon dioxide constitutes only .00126 % of the earth’s
          atmosphere.) All of this hoopla over an atmospheric component so minute,
          it is difficult to comprehend.
          Allow me to repeat this critical fact;
          Carbon dioxide comprises 38/1000ths of the earth’s atmosphere, and of that amount, a mere 3 percent is
          generated by mankind.
          Furthermore, nitrous oxide is 310 times more capable of retaining the sun’s heat than carbon dioxide.
          However,
          nitrous oxide is not vilified by global warming alarmists as is carbon
          dioxide. The reason for this is that nitrous oxide can not be attributed
          to fossil fuels and is also more difficult to measure and tax like
          carbon dioxide.
          GLOBAL COOLING
          According to the U.S.
          Historical Climatology Network archives, the temperature has warmed only
          0.5 degrees F since the mid-1980s.
          Tossing out corrupted USHCN
          data, there has actually been a net-cooling since 1930—during the same
          period in which atmospheric CO2 has noticeably increased.
          Since
          2007, global temperatures are engaged in a significant downward spiral,
          with government data illustrating a bit more than a one degree F (0.65
          degrees C) drop in temperature between 2007 and 2008 alone.
          MEDIEVEL WARMING PERIOD
          A
          warming period occurred during the middle ages, during which ice melted
          in Greenland to such an extent that Norse settlers were able to
          establish farms in Greenland. This Medieval warming period was followed
          by a mini-ice age, during which rivers in Europe froze over. These
          events occurred before the advent of fossil fuels, and thus can not be
          blamed on the use of fossil fuels.
          Global warming alarmists
          published the infamous “hockey stick” graph which purportedly “proved”
          man-made global warming, beginning with the use of fossil fuels. This
          graph was manipulated to exclude the medieval warming period and the
          subsequent mini ice- age.
          FOLLOW THE MONEY
          Sussman was provided information from a friend “Dave” who wanted to remain anonymous.
          As
          I sifted through the details Dave provided, my convictions were
          confirmed; many of those fiercely peddling anthropogenic (manmade)
          global warming are consumed by the love of money and stand to profit
          greatly from the perpetuation of this fraud.
          I believe such motives
          are currently driving General Electric (GE). GE is a major manufacturer
          of SmartMeters, the leading global manufacturer of wind turbines, and
          one of the nation’s premier appliance manufacturers.
          They also have
          an influential hand in solar panel production and are the primary
          producer of those obnoxious, toxic, curlicue compact fluorescent bulbs.
          The global warming scam continues, and will continue, to be the best
          thing that’s happened to GE since its founder, Thomas Edison, invented
          the incandescent light bulb that revolutionized the entire world; an
          incredible irony, given his invention has since been vilified and,
          thanks to the federal 2007 Energy Independence Act, is set to be
          outlawed by 2020.
          Cries of climate change are bailing out GE’s otherwise
          Lackluster
          business enterprise and their lobbying efforts clearly demonstrate
          their dependence on this environmental hoax for survival. In the fourth
          quarter of 2008, as the company’s stock fell 30%, GE spent $4.26 million
          lobbying Congress to get their share of the then-forthcoming stimulus
          aid and global warming legislation anticipated to be signed into law
          under incoming President O’Bama—that equals $46,304 of daily lobbying ,
          including weekends and holidays. All told, GE’s 2008 lobbying bill
          amounted
          to $18.66 million. And, NBC, GE’s television network, has devoted
          millions of dollars of free air-time to further the global warming
          deception.
          Without the boost they’re getting from the global
          warming scare, GE would likely go the way of Westinghouse—into the tomb
          of once-great American companies that crashed and burned because of
          poor management. But give GE politically- correct credit their CEO, Jeff
          Immelt, played his crony cards perfectly. He was a big supporter of
          O’Bama and, consequently, was awarded with a seat on the president’s
          White House Economic Recovery Advisory board.
          MY SILICON VALLEY MOLE
          In
          chapter 5, I briefly introduced you to a man (Dave) with whom I was
          acquainted through a charity to which we both contributed.
          Germane to the premise of this book, Dave fully grasps what is about to happen to his country, my country, our country.
          “The
          coming energy shortage is about controlling our lives, and a host of
          complicit players, who believe such control is necessary and
          appropriate, are working with government to assure this.” , he told me
          over coffee in Cupertino, just a few blocks from Apple’s headquarters in
          the heart of Silicon Valley. “These players are big fish from the
          financial world and from here in the Valley: Goldman Sachs, Kleiner
          Perkins, Google, GE, Microsoft, IBM.”
          “What are their motives?” I asked.
          “It’s
          two-fold. For some, it’s a pure profit play. They’re privy to the
          analyses that don’t make it into the Wall Street Journal. The global
          economy is teetering on the brink of collapse, nearly every country on
          the planet is over leveraged, and these money guys are looking at
          perhaps the last big opportunity of their lifetime.”
          “Like a ‘green bubble’, instead of the Internet bubble of the ‘90s,” I interjected.
          “Exactly.
          Private entrepreneurs with little a slick Power Point presentation, a
          star-studded board of director, and an unproven idea for saving the
          environment will be funded by the venture guys. The valuations of the
          newly-funded companies will increase, eventually they’ll get purchased
          by a bigger company, and the venture guys will get paid back handsomely.
          A few years down the line, the bigger company will discover the
          business they bought is worthless, or they’ll just fold and go
          under—like 80 percent of the Internet companies did. It’s a bubble where
          jobs in Sand Hill Road [ where many of the Silicon Valley’s venture
          firms are located] will score.
          “But the government’s plans for
          things like the SmartGrid, keeping us from drilling for our own oil and
          natural gas, stopping nuclear energy, cap-and-trade—how can these money
          guys be so willing to let America go-to-hell?”
          I’ve heard you talk about Marx’s Laws of Matter on the radio—these people are elitists. They believe Marx had some good ideas.”
          “What about global warming, are they believers?”
          “They are just like Al Gore—they believe in money.”
          Our conversation concluded with Dave reaching into his satchel and retrieving a stack of documents tow inches thick.
          “I’ve
          heard your theories on the SmartGrid. They are spot on. The government
          will be able to control every electrified component of your house.
          “Now’, he said, handing me the stack, “here’s some paperwork on the
          money trail associated with the grid, plus who’s going to become rich
          from cap-and-trade. There’s a lot here about my ‘pal’ Al too. I’m not
          giving you anything that’s classified; it’s all pretty much open source.
          This’ll just save you a couple years worth of research,” he exclaimed
          with a hearty laugh.
          IT STARTS WITH YOUR THERMOSTAT
          During
          the first week of January in 2008, a caller to my radio program alerted
          me to proposed revisions in the gargantuan, 230-page California Building
          Code. The changes, he said, were being stealthily concocted by the
          California Energy Commission, and mandated that remotely controlled home
          thermostats be installed in all new or remodeled homes or in existing
          homes in which the furnace or air conditioner was being replaced.
          Conducting
          an immediate investigation, I learned the caller was correct. The plan
          involved a new technology known as the Programmable Communication
          Thermostat, or PCT. Embedded within the PCT is an FM radio receiver,
          which would allow energy authorities to control home temperatures.
          SMARTGRIDDERS: GOOGLE, MICROSOFT, AND IBM
          Within
          Dave’s stack of stuff were documents revealing the significant stakes
          technology giants Google, Microsoft, and IBM have in developing
          components critical to the completion of the national SmartGrid. My own
          personal research indicated that personnel at these three companies were
          also financially in bed with Obama, and, in some cases, advisors to his
          campaign and presidency.
          According to the Center for Responsive
          Politics, Google employees and family members contributed more than
          $790,000 to Obama’s campaign, Microsoft’s people gave more than
          $806,000, and those working for IBM contributed more than $518,000. In
          contrast, Republican presidential nominee John McCain received about
          $20,000 from Google employees, $63,000 from Microsoft’s, and $52,000from
          IBM’s.
          Because of his business interests, Dave has spent
          considerable time on the Google campus. According to his description of
          the search engine’s corporate culture, their belief in anthropogenic
          (manmade) global warming is almost cult-like–and for obvious reasons.
          For starters, Al Gore is on their advisory board. Dan Reicher, Google’s
          Director of Climate Change (they actually have such a division)
          reportedly assisted with the Cleantech for Obama committee, which raised
          about $2 million in campaign contributions. Reicher was also a member
          of the Obama transition team and is thought to have been on the
          shortlist for the energy secretary position. Google’s CEO, Eric Schmidt,
          who also vigorously campaigned for Obama, has attended White House
          economic summits and reportedly was considered for the administration’s
          technology czar.
          O’BAMA AND THE CHICAGO CLIMATE EXCHANGE
          “The
          CCX (Chicago Climate Exchange) is an institution created with the sole
          purpose of being ready for the day when carbon trading in the United
          States will be the law of the land, complete with federal rules and
          regulations, much like the way carbon trading is conducted in Europe on
          the European Exchange.” , Dave told me. “Betting on CCX to become the
          designated carbon trading depot is as easy as picking the sun to rise in
          the east tomorrow morning, especially since Obama and Gore have ties to
          the company.
          It’s true, Research reveals Obama and Gore ARE in
          on this. While living in Chicago, Obama served as a board member of the
          radical, nonprofit Joyce Foundation from 1994 to 2001. Joyce is perhaps
          the foremost advocate of trying to suck the individual right to bear
          arms from the Second Amendment. According to Ed Barnes of Fox News, in
          2000 and 2001 “the Joyce Foundation gave nearly $1.1 million in two
          separate grants that were instrumental in developing and launching the
          privately owned Chicago Climate Exchange.”
          When the foundation
          made its first grant to the Climate Exchange, Joyce’s president was
          Paula DiPerna. DiPerna left the organization in 2001 to become a
          founding executive vice president of CCX. In 2009, Barnes interviewed
          DiPerma and asked about Obama’s role in the 2000 and 2001 grants. She
          replied that, as a director, Obama “read the proposal and voted on the
          grant.”
          And some of America’s biggest moneymakers are lining up to
          get in on this new Chicago-based cash cow by skimming a cut right off
          the top.
          “Every time a carbon credit is sold or purchased, “Dave
          explained to me, “somebody will get a slice of the transaction—a fee.
          And, just like the way they trade in the commodities market, these smart
          investors will buy bulk-loads of credits on the cheap, and then
          position themselves to sell the credits to needy businesses for great
          profit. Carbon dioxide will be the new currency.”
          While perfectly
          legal because the law will allow it, as it always does when immorality
          is legislated, these greedy, conscienceless investors will rape and
          plunder our once-great nation with hearty political approval. And, of
          course, at the front of the line is Al Gore, in perfect position to cash
          in on his decades-worth of global warming hysteria. Dave agrees with
          reports that indicate the Chicago Climate Exchange is heavily influenced
          by Gore.
          CAPPED AND PLAYED
          The rush to build and implement the
          SmartGrid is timed to coincide with the coming planned mass energy
          shortage known as cap-and-trade. Cap-and-trade will eventually eliminate
          America’s energy suppliers, dismantle our manufacturing base, increase
          every citizen’s day-to-day living expenses, and be used as the honey pot
          for a host of welfare projects. It will enable the elitists to
          accomplish their goal to “de-develop” the United States.
          Every oil
          refinery, natural gas producer, electric utility company—any entity
          involved in the production of energy—will be limited by the EPA as to
          their allowable amount of CO2 emissions. That’s the “cap”, and the cap
          will decrease each year. Likewise, other major carbon emitting
          industries, such as steel, cement, glass, paper, lumber, mining,
          welding, airlines, trucking, and manufacturing, will also be hit wit a
          cap based on an annual estimate of the tons of carbon dioxide each
          business releases into the atmosphere. Businesses will be assigned
          carbon “permits” corresponding to the EPA-determined standards. One can
          only imagine the tremendous opportunity for graft, corruption, and
          favoritism carbon permits will allow and encourage.
          If it is
          determined that any company in these carbon-emitting industries has
          exceeded their annual carbon permit quota, they may purchase “emission
          credits” from the government-approved exchange to offset their CO2
          emissions — that’s the “trade”.
          GULF POWER CO.
          Representatives
          of the Gulf Power Co. say that the EPA’s new global warming mercury
          emissions rules could result in the shuttering of three of its current
          coal-fired power plants and bring higher energy prices to consumers.
          According to Gulf Power official Jeff Rogers:
          “We
          won’t know what the impact will be until the new rules come out and we
          can actually evaluate them. But our feeling is that coal-fired plants
          would be at risk.”
          The new rules could cost Gulf Power up to $2.5
          billion and other divisions of the company as much as $18 billion to
          comply. The 400,000 customers of Gulf Power would see their electricity
          rates go up.
          Gulf Power recently spent $500 million to build a
          scrubber plant in Pensacola that removes 80% of oxidized mercury. The
          new EPA standard could be 90%. The new scrubber plant wasn’t built to
          remove 90%
          If the EPA is so concerned about mercury emissions, why
          not ban mercury filled CFL bulbs? These bulbs will end up in landfills
          where the mercury will leach into rivers, underground aquifers, and
          eventually into the food chain.
          It appears that the EPA is more concerned about pushing cap and trade restrictions than protecting the environment.
          In
          Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Maryland six coal-fueled power plants are being
          shut down by first Energy because the retrofitting the power plants
          will have to undergo to satisfy the EPA’s draconian rules is just too
          expensive to justify.
          These shutdowns will cause the loss of over 500 jobs initially.
          Douglas
          Gotham, director of the State Utility Forecasting Group, for instance,
          says that rate hikes are on the way in Indiana, as well, and all because
          of Obama’s onerous new EPA regulations.
          This is exactly what
          Obama wants. In 2007, he sat down with the San Francisco Chronicle and
          said that he wanted to bankrupt the coal industry and that our rates
          would “necessarily skyrocket”?
          This does not bode well for hybrid cars which rely on electricity, especially since 45% of U.S. power plants use coal.
          Last September, EPA’s Cross-State Air Pollution rule cost 500 jobs in Texas.
          In
          his testimony, EPA Assistant Administrator Mathy Stanislaus admitted
          last April that jobs are not part of their determinations.
          The EPA has declared carbon dioxide as a “pollutant”.
          If
          carbon dioxide is a “pollutant”, then each time we exhale, we are
          “polluting“ the environment. If the “pollutant”, carbon dioxide, is
          removed from the atmosphere, then photosynthesis will cease and plants
          will die. Without plants to produce oxygen, animals (including humans)
          will also die.
          Ironically, global warming will still continue
          every 1500 years due to cyclic variations in the radiation emitted from
          the sun. (See “Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years” by Fred
          singer and Dennis Avery.)
          President O’Bama and global warming zealots are destroying the U.S. economy under the false guise of reducing global warming.
          THE UTILITY MACT RULE
          The
          following are excerpts from “Alabama Currents” magazine. The author is
          Fred D. Clarke Jr., president of Alabama Municipal Electric Authority.
          “So
          here we go again. On Dec. 21, 2011, EPA released its final rule
          requiring maximum achievable control technology for mercury and other
          hazardous air pollutants from power plants. The rule, called the
          Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (known in the electricity industry as
          the “utility MACT rule”) will impose additional significant costs to
          consumers.
          Here are some main points of concern:
          It is one of the most expensive rules that EPA ever proposed.
          I would take one of our nation’s most abundant energy resources—coal—off the table as a source of energy for new power plants.
          EPA is moving too fast, and its rush included numerous data and technological errors.
          EPA underestimates the costs of the rule. Significant emissions reductions are already being achieved uder current regulations.
          The
          utility MACT rule “is expected to be the most expensive rule the agency
          has ever imposed on our nation’s power sector.” the Energy Commerce
          Committee said on its website. EPA’s estimates “do not provide the
          total ‘sticker price’ of the rule, but only a share of those costs
          assigned to three select years: $9.4 billion in 2015, $8.6 billion in
          2030, and $7.4 billion in 2030. EPA documentation states that annualized
          estimates assume utilities would take 30 to 40 years to pay off
          compliance costs.
          Customers and communities in the Southeast have
          been struggling with the economic recession and unacceptably high
          unemployment rates. This unprecedented, and ill-timed transformation of
          the nation’s electricity infrastructure will only impede the U.S.
          economic recovery, reduce our ability to create jobs and add to the
          economic burdens of our customers.”

          1. cal3301 says

            I have read every article you have pasted. We are a carbon based planet. Every living thing on this planet gives off CO2. The oceans produce more of it than man does. CO2 is also what lets this planet sustain life. It gives us our moderate temperature as compared to other planets and enables the food we eat to survive. As far as the so called global warming, I live on the mid Atlantic coast and have been tracking the temps in my area for the past 15 years. We have been dropping an average of two degrees for the past fast years, have an over abundance of rain(but they’re slow soakers with little flooding), and a lot of greenery!!!

          2. pineapple says

            A good read and may open a few peoples eyes

            Ian Rutherford Plimer is
            an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the
            University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University
            of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining
            companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited
            the Encyclopedia of Geology.
            These are his extensive credentials. Born12 February 1946ResidenceAustraliaNationalityAustralianFieldsEarth Science, Geology, Mining EngineeringInstitutionsUniversity of New England,University of Newcastle,University of Melbourne,University of AdelaideAlma materUniversity of New South Wales,Macquarie UniversityThesisThe pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia (1976)Notable awardsEureka Prize (1995, 2002),Centenary Medal(2003), Clarke Medal (2004)

            How they don’t mention ‘Global Warming’ anymore, but just ‘Climate Change’ – you know why?
            It’s because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bullshitartists got caught with their pants down.
            And,
            just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme –
            that whopping new tax – imposed on you that will achieve absolutely
            nothing except make you poorer.
            It won’t stop any volcanoes from erupting, that’s for sure.
            But, hey, …..go give the world a hug and have a nice day.

            Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?
            Professor Ian Plimer’s book in a brief summary.
            PLIMER:
            “Okay, here’s the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland . Since
            its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY
            SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2
            emissions on our planet – all of you.
            Of
            course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to
            suppress – it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires
            to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all
            animal life.
            I
            know….it’s very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon
            emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience
            and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags,
            sitting up till midnight to finish your kids “The Green Revolution”
            science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies,
            using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet
            tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home
            instead of abroad,nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle,
            replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light
            bulbs…..well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the
            tubes in just four days.
            The
            volcanic ash emitted into the Earth’s atmosphere in just four days –
            yes, FOUR DAYS – by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every
            single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there
            are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at
            any one time – EVERY DAY.
            I
            don’t really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention
            that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991,
            it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire
            human race had emitted in all its years on earth.
            Yes, folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over One year – think about it.
            Of
            course, I shouldn’t spoil this ‘touchy-feely tree-hugging’ moment and
            mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized
            800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite
            our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.
            And
            I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the
            fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA
            and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon
            in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.
            Just
            remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon
            tax on you, on the basis of the bogus ‘human-caused’ climate-change
            scenario.
            Hey, isn’t it interesting !

          3. cal3301 says

            Did you read what I wrote? I explained to you about CO2 in my comment. I learned that in school in 6th grade before Gore came along. I also know that the temperatures have cooled. That’s also why we became a hurricane magnet, because we did not have any high pressure system in place to thwart them. To anyone that complains about CO2, tell them to plant some trees!!!

          4. pineapple says

            Yes I read what you wrote and I supported it with another blog.

          5. cal3301 says

            Thank you, I thought you were trying to mock or argue with me. Sorry!!
            I like to keep things short and sweet when I can.

          6. marshmil1789 says

            Thank you pineapple. Have you ever lived in Hawaii? Considering the name you use here one would think maybe you might have.

          7. pineapple says

            I have never lived in Hawaii. My late brother-in-law was stationed there during WWII.

      3. Gammi2Anna says

        Hey chucky001, are you by any chance related to chuck-n-cluck Schumer? You both seem to be delusional of the real facts that are resulting from the actions/polices of our POTUS, a man with an IQ that is way out of your league as well as any of the liberal trolls that are trying to unseat him. As for your claim that the coal industry is DYING, you are as wrong about that as you were about making the statement in the first place. I not only live in coal country, but spent most of my career working in the coal industry. I still have family and friends working in coal production and they are back to having well paying jobs, great benefits and the satisfaction that they are able to bring back a cheaper and safer source of fuel, electricity, and energy. They also take great pride in knowing that they are playing a very significant role in “Making America Great Again”. What was it that YOUR candidate, Cheat-em, Lie-to-em Hillary Clinton had to offer? More of the same that Obama used to ‘destroy and tear down America’? We didn’t like that then, did not want anymore of it, so we elected the man that says what he thinks, means what he says and leaves no doubt that he only wants to bring our country back to a self-supporting Nation, ready and willing to ‘Make America Great Again”.

      4. Ronnie Cowlishaw says

        YOU ARE A CLASSIC LIBERAL MORON!

        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          Ronnie, you insult morons!😣

      5. Garys_opinion says

        It seems to be making a comeback. The natural gas boom is due to fracking, which the Obama administration wanted stopped. If they had their way you wouldn’t have had access to power at all, we’d all be living in caves (those who were left) and burning wood for heat.
        Puerto Rico just got a crash course on how important electric power is.

        1. Glen De Lough says

          Obama wanted to stop the drilling for oil, but he could not because it was on private property. So, then he went after the fracking.

      6. donl says

        You can google their I Q’s the whole Trump family is over 130.

        1. Gene Moser says

          That’s a combined IQ right?

          1. Greg Hernandez says

            No Gene , the combined number was all 35 members of YOUR family added together and it was a little too high at that. The Trump family EACH have IQ’s higher than 130.

          2. Gene Moser says

            Since you don’t know me and the only thing I know about you is that you are impolite and ignorant of what you write, I would suggest you refrain from making inane comments. Just for your information, my family was almost wiped out in WWII. But, oh, from which institute of higher learning did you receive your magna cum laude?

          3. Mathew Molk says

            No matter, None of the Trumps went to Harvard – The dunderhead factory – where they think world war eleven ended in 1954. On the other hand from the Bush kids to the Cackling Witch all of them had something to do with the stupid shop.

          4. Greg Hernandez says

            Hmmm. GHW Bush was an officer and a combat pilot. Matter of fact he was the youngest Navy pilot when he got his wings ( I played Anchors Aweigh for him in 2003 in DC , Really nice , smart guy) , GW Bush was a jet fighter pilot and an officer ( Played Both his inaugurals and a few dinners for him , He and his wife were really nice intelligent people ). They don’t let dummies fly combat aircraft .
            You sound quite a bit more stupid than both of them. As for the witch , never met her , but I did meet Bubba in 2000. A personable guy but I did not shake his hands for fear of some kind of Social disease.

          5. Glen De Lough says

            No, only Libs combine family IQ to arrive an acceptable number.

          6. Gene Moser says

            Well, well, well. Generalizations are almost always wrong. May I ask what institution of higher learning granted you a degree? And in what? Name calling is a sign of middle school retainment, btw.

          7. Glen De Lough says

            You initiated the name calling, so I would say that applies to you.

          8. Gene Moser says

            So what makes you think that?

          9. Glen De Lough says

            Read your first comment that I replied to.

        2. Gene Moser says

          Yours isn’t. IQs of 130 don’t write run on sentences.

      7. LM61 says

        Troll much! STFU!
        MAGA TRUMP 2020🇺🇸

      8. gvette says

        Hey Chucky. Do a little research before you post, and look the asshole you are.
        There’s roughly 600 coal fired plants.
        https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Category:Existing_coal_plants_in_the_United_States

      9. Harold says

        And most job losses in the coal industry have been as a result of automation not coal regulation.

      10. Rodney Steward says

        De Lough, one he$$ of an import!! One coal plant produces more energy than 380 Giant wind Turbines running WIDE OPEN 7 days a week, with a 1/3 of the maintenance!!

        1. Retired says

          Just consider the poster and his BS .

          1. Rodney Steward says

            Exactly, but his wife’s panties caught my eye, hope they look better on her then him!

          2. Retired says

            Are you sure they were that big to be called panties that cover to much ???

          3. Rodney Steward says

            Don’t think he’s got much!! 🙂

      11. marshmil1789 says

        Chucky001 you are a Democrat so naturally are against anything positive happening in the USA. We don’t expect you to say anything positive about Donald Trump. He is a successful businessman not a foreign student street hawker trying to organize communities under RULES FOR RADICALS.

      12. dpg01 says

        Chucky–Your graph precisely defines the democrat base in America. You sir, are a gold star member.

    2. gotabgood says

      Things you should consider before defending dinosaur technology.

      The U.S Has More Solar Workers Than Coal Miners
      https://cleantechnica.com/2014/07/22/u-s-solar-workers-coal-miners/
      >
      Wind power is now cheaper than nuclear – the energy revolution is happening
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/26/offshore-wind-power-energy-price-climate-change
      >
      Low Costs of Solar Power & Wind Power Crush Coal, Crush Nuclear, & Beat Natural Gas
      https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/25/cost-of-solar-power-vs-cost-of-wind-power-coal-nuclear-natural-gas/
      >
      Today’s Energy Jobs Are in Solar, Not Coal
      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/25/climate/todays-energy-jobs-are-in-solar-not-coal.html
      >

      1. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

        How much coal does it take to fly an airplane?

        1. Retired says

          It can not answer that ,it’s not in its script or cut and paste .

        2. AE says

          How many solar panels does it take to fly an airplane? At least from coal you can build the airplane.

          1. Mathew Molk says

            Solar sucks, but somebody did actuality build a solar powered aircraft a few years back and it flew.

          2. Greg Hernandez says

            You are correct there. Didn’t it hold some kind of record for staying aloft ? I know that the project turned out to be not economically feasible right now but could be in the future if they can find a way to keep it flying at night.

          3. pineapple says

            Very slowly.

      2. Glen De Lough says

        Coal is the cheaper your favored sources. Remove the subsidies and your favored energy sources will soar. Remove the state mandates requiring the use of a percentage of your favored sources and prices will soar. In the latter case, costs don’t matter because there is no choice.
        BTW: Keep up with your socio-economic babble and you might start believing your own lies.

        1. Dan Williams says

          You get an “Amen” from me as I spent 35 years in the power generation field using all types of technologies. Solar and wind power are subsidized by the Feds, whereas coal and nuclear are not. In fact, through regulations, coal and nuclear are made artificially even more expensive.

        2. anibanib says

          Coal powered energy is not cheap,you guys are paying more than 6 times what I am paying in my country per kwh at source, and we do not use fossil fuels for energy

          1. Glen De Lough says

            We also use hydroelectric power and wind turbines. The coal we use is near the surface. I seriously doubt that we are paying 6 times per kwh for our electricity.

          2. anibanib says

            I know what the USA uses to generate electricity……info from CARMA.ORG……

            USA……Fossil 64.36%, Hydro 6.34%, Nuclear 20.17%, Renewables 9.14%….Emissions 538

            and Swedish electricity costs only 3 cents per kwh at source……..so how much does your electricity cost at source

          3. Glen De Lough says

            Thank you, I would have to look up the costs per kwh at the source. But there are other considerations that may or may not determine the cost of electricity. I will look into it.

      3. mac12sam12 says

        Solar and wind are unreliable. When you have something cheaper that fossil fuels that’s even more efficient, sign me up. The coal industry is coming back because regulations had been rolled back.

        Green energy that last 8 years has cost the taxpayers billions thanks to Hussein O. http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/

        1. pineapple says

          NEARLY DOOMED BY TOO LITTLE CO2

          By
          Paul Driessen

          on
          July 4, 2017

          Uncategorized

          Aside from protests by Al Gore, Leonardo Di Caprio and friends, the
          public didn’t seem to raise its CO2 anguish much above the
          Russians-election frenzy when Trump exited the Paris Climate Accords.

          Statistician Bjorn Lomborg had already pointed out that the Paris CO2
          emission promises would cost $100 trillion dollars that no one has, and
          make only a 0.05 degree difference in
          Earth’s 2100 AD temperature. Others say perhaps a 0.2 degree C (0.3
          degrees F) difference, and even that would hold only in the highly
          unlikely event that all parties actually kept their voluntary pledges.

          What few realize, however, is that during the last Ice Age too little CO2
          in the air almost eradicated mankind. That’s when much-colder water in
          oceans (that were 400 feet shallower than today) sucked most of the
          carbon dioxide from the air; half of North America, Europe and Asia were
          buried under mile-high glaciers that obliterated everything in their
          paths; and bitterly cold temperatures further retarded plant growth.

          In fact, Earth’s atmosphere had only about 180 parts per million CO2,
          compared to today’s 400 ppm: 0.018% then versus 0.040% today.

          The Ice Age’s combined horrors –
          intense cold, permanent drought and CO2 starvation – killed most of the
          plants on Earth. Only a few trees survived, in the mildest climates. Much
          of the planet’s grass turned to tundra, which is much less nourishing
          to the herbivores prehistoric humans depended on for food and fur.
          Recent Cambridge University studies conclude that only about 100,000
          humans were left alive worldwide when the current interglacial warming
          mercifully began.

          The few surviving prey animals had to keep migrating to get enough
          food. That forced our ancestors to migrate with them, in temperatures
          that routinely fell to 40 degrees below zero (both Fahrenheit and
          Celsius). The Neanderthals had been living in relatively warm caves
          protected from predators by fires at the cave mouths. They had hunted
          their prey by sneaking through the trees – which no longer existed. They
          apparently couldn’t adapt, and starved. Cambridge found no evidence of
          genocidal warfare.

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          The most successful human survivors – who provided most of the DNA
          for modern Europeans – were nomads from the Black Sea region. The
          Gravettians had never had trees, so they invented mammoth-skin tents,
          held up by salvaged mammoth ribs. They also developed spear-throwers, to
          kill the huge beasts from a safe distance.

          Equally important, Gravettians domesticated and bred wolves, to
          protect their tents from marauders, locate game animals on the broad
          tundra, and harry the prey into defensive clusters for easier killing.
          The scarcity of food in that Glacial Maximum intensified the dogs’
          appreciation for the bones and bone marrow at the human camps.

          When that Ice Age ended, moreover, CO2 changes didn’t lead the
          warming. The atmospheric CO2 only began to recover about 800 yearsafter the warming started.

          Carbon dioxide truly is “the gas of life.” The plants that feed us
          and wildlife can’t live without inhaling CO2, and then they exhale the
          oxygen that lets humans and animals keep breathing.

          Our crop plants evolved about 400 million years ago, when CO2 in the
          atmosphere was about 5000 parts per million! Our evergreen trees and
          shrubs evolved about 360 million years ago, with CO2 levels at about
          4,000 ppm. When our deciduous trees evolved about 160 million years ago,
          the CO2 level was about 2,200 ppm – still five times the current level.

          There’s little danger to humans of too much CO2 in the air they
          breathe. Even the Environmental Protection Agency says 1000 ppm is the
          safe limit for lifetime human exposure. Space shuttle CO2 alarms are set at 5,000 ppm, and the alarm in nuclear submarines is set at 8,000 ppm!

          If there’s little danger of humans having too much CO2 in their air,
          and a real danger to civilization from having too little, what’s the
          ideal level of atmospheric CO2? The answer? There’s a broad safe range –
          with far more risk of too little than too much. At low levels, with few
          or no plants, there’d be no people or animals, let alone civilization.

          Human numbers, moreover, expanded strongly during the Holocene
          Optimum, with temperatures 4 degrees C higher than today! Even now,
          residents of the tropics keep demonstrating that humans can tolerate
          much higher temperatures than most of us experience. (As we utilize the
          new malaria vaccine, the tropics will prosper even more.) And far more
          people die from “too cold” than from “too warm.”

          The crops continue to produce record yields in our “unprecedented”
          warming – and the extra CO2 in our air is credited with as much as 15%
          of that yield gain!

          It’s not whether more CO2 in the air raises Earth’s temperatures. We
          know it does, by some small but still hotly debated amount. Both sides
          agree that a redoubling of CO2 in the air – by itself – would raise
          earth’s temperature by only about 1 degree C.

          That’s hardly noticeable or measurable in the midst of all the local
          temperature variations, with the myriad of natural forces that govern
          planetary climate, with all the discrepancies among the various
          measuring systems, and amid all the errors, biases and missing or
          revised data that have crept in.

          Moreover, 1 degree C of warming was obviously not enough to frighten the public.

          So, the computerized models cited by the Intergovernmental Panel on
          Climate Change made another assumption: that a hotter world would hold
          more moisture in its atmosphere. Since water vapor is the most effective
          greenhouse gas, the climate modelers claimed Earth might heat by 5 or
          even 10 degrees C. One scientist (who supposedly advises Pope Francis)
          recently claimed 12 degrees C (21 degrees F) of overheating!

          The awkward truth, however, is that NASA has monitored moisture in the atmosphere since 1980 – and water vapor has not increased
          despite the higher levels of CO2 in the air. Is that why the IPCC
          models have predicted more than twice as much warming as we’ve actually
          seen?

          The year 1936 recorded the hottest thermometer readings of any year
          in the last 5,000. However, these days NOAA reports only its “adjusted”
          temperatures, which always seem to go only higher. In fact, the first
          surge of human-emitted carbon dioxide after World War II should have produced the biggest surge of warming – if CO2 is the control factor. Instead temperatures went down from 1940 to 1975.

          Why did the computer models fail to predict (or even factor in)
          either the Pacific Oscillation’s current 20-year non-warming or the
          coming solar sunspot minimum?

          Only one model has verified itself by back-casting the temperatures
          and weather we’ve had over the past century. That model is from Nicola
          Scafetta at Duke University, and it’s based on solar, lunar and planetary cycles.
          The latest data from the CERN particle physics lab have also produced a
          model based on cycling – and it foresees no runaway warming. Instead,
          it sees an impending cold solar minimum.

          Is the long, wrong-headed war against carbon dioxide finally fading?
          Science certainly says it should. But perhaps there is still too much
          money, prestige and power in climate alarmism for that to happen.

          ___________

          Dennis T. Avery is an agricultural and environmental economist and a
          senior fellow for the Center for Global Food Issues in Virginia. He was
          formerly a senior analyst for the U.S. Department of State and is
          co-author, with S. Fred Singer, ofUnstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years.

      4. Greg Hernandez says

        More solar workers ONLY because the zero forced shut downs in coal production. Also technology is again putting people to work in the technical end of the industry.

        Of course wind power is cheaper to build BUT Nuclear runs 24 hours a day seven days a week 52 weeks a year and when run properly, doesn’t kill endangered birds which wind kills by the thousands. Nuclear also in the LONG run winds up being cheaper due to reliability.

        Solar power needs vast arrays to make it worth while and I guess you haven’t seen the dirt under them and all the dead animals because solar power generates LOTS of heat above the arrays and under them too.They fry birds trying to fly over them !

        Energy jobs in solar not coal….don’t ever bother quoting the NY Slimes. As stated before zero was killing coal, now that it is coming back , so are the jobs.

        Too bad you have no understanding of real economics , real energy capabilities or anything else that matters. You cite the prog sites which are so biased to the unbalanced , unhinged left that their so-called facts are worse than useless. They lie.

        1. Sharon Windus says

          Nuclear is NOT a Good option either. Look at the radiation that is STILL leaking from the Fukushima disaster in 2011 and is still contaminating the Pacific from Japan across the sea to the USA coast. It is estimated a half life of several thousand years and we have no way of cleaning it up. It will continue to pollute and kill, eventually spreading across the entire planet. They can’t even get robots close enough to do any good as their components melt down from the extreme heat before they are in working range. So NO, I do NOT think nuclear is a good option.

        2. pineapple says

          Green Energy Source Turning Extremely Toxic
          D Jolly July 6, 2017

          Barack Obama
          literally sacrificed the coal and oil industries for green energy
          projects. Like so many other bleeding-heart liberal environmentalists,
          he believed that green energy was a safer form of energy production.

          But is green energy really that much better for the environment?

          Take electric cars for example. Their huge batteries are filled with
          highly corrosive materials that need to be disposed of at some point in
          time. Additionally, areas where the lead and lithium are mined and
          processed often leave the general landscape as barren as the surface of
          the moon.

          Don’t forget cost. The last time I had to replace the battery in my
          car it cost me around $100. In 2014, estimates to replace the ‘drive
          motor battery’ in a Chevy Volt ran anywhere from $3,400 up to as much as $34,000.
          Chevrolet dealerships in Los Angeles and Grand Rapids were called and
          asked for a quote to replace the battery unit in a 2012 Chevy Volt. They
          were given quotes that ranged from $3,400 to $34,000 depending on
          exactly what needed to be done and they needed to see the vehicle in
          order to ascertain what repairs needed to be done.

          I went on the Kelly Blue Book website,
          in 2014, to find out how much a 2012 Chevy Volt in excellent condition
          was worth. It gave me a dealer trade-in value of $18,350. When I
          checked on selling it to a private party, it gave me a value of $19,835.
          So, a car that is less than 2 years old still in excellent condition is
          worth less than the cost for a total battery replacement of $24,000.

          Okay, so green energy electric cars are extremely expensive to
          maintain and they produce a lot of highly toxic and hazardous waste. But
          what about solar energy? It uses sunlight, which is abundant and
          renewable and doesn’t produce any harmful emissions, so isn’t it safe
          for the environment?

          First of all, there are a number of reported incidents of birds flying over solar energy fields and getting fried in the air.

          Secondly, what about solar panels that have outlived their usefulness?

          This is a problem now being faced by Japan and California. Japan’s
          Environmental Ministry issued a statement last November saying that the
          current annual number of old and discarded solar panels is around 10,000
          tons. They also estimated that by the year 2040, the annual amount of
          old and discarded solar panels will rise to 800,000 tons.
          While California’s figures may not be as high as Japan’s, the Golden
          State is the world’s number one source of solar panels and they have
          become widely used throughout the state.

          Why are these discarded solar panels such a problem since they are a form of green energy?

          According to one report:

          “Environmental Progress investigated the problem to see
          how the problem compared to the much more high-profile issue of nuclear
          waste.

          We found:

          Solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than do nuclear power plants.
          If solar and nuclear produce the same amount of electricity over
          the next 25 years that nuclear produced in 2016, and the wastes are
          stacked on football fields, the nuclear waste would reach the height of
          the Leaning Tower of Pisa (52 meters), while the solar waste would reach
          the height of two Mt. Everests (16 km).
          In countries like China, India, and Ghana, communities living
          near e-waste dumps often burn the waste in order to salvage the valuable
          copper wires for resale. Since this process requires burning off the
          plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic
          and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

          Before America abandons fossil fuels for higher cost green energy, we
          need to take a close look at the overall picture. What effects are
          there to the environment in the mining and pumping of materials used for
          green energy? What happens when these products outlive their usefulness
          and how toxic are they to the land, air, water and to people? It seems
          that when you look at the entire picture, green energy is really a black
          death-causing energy.

      5. AE says

        I suppose you still spend all your time in your mom’s basement so do not get out and see the world. Windmills are a blight on the landscape, killing eagles in mass along with every other kind of bird and bat. The failure rate on windmills is enormous with only about 40% of them working while the rest need to be repaired at 160 ft in the air. My roommate was a windmill tech its highly hazardous work and even after a short period was injured and can no longer work.

        Further more the land of windmills, Holland has stopped using the technology because its a complete waste of time, too much cost for the return. The cost of any technology is based upon the rate of return. A windmill cost of construction at today’s rates is 14 years for you morons on the left that means it takes 14 years to recover the cost of construction. Unfortunately the lifetime of a windmill is at best only 11 years so you will never be able to recover even the cost to build the damn things. Only massive government subsidies allows their construction can they afford to be built. Should those subsidies go away the windmills will cease to work.

        Leftest ideas only work at a loss and when enforced by an uncaring bureaucracy at a human cost that exceeds what the common man can afford to pay or is willing to.

        What good is any liberal idea when it can only be achieved at gun point?

        1. Michael Dennewitz says

          Oh no, gottabedumberthanshit is back. What happened idiot boy, you get blisters on your hands from jerking off little man?? 😆😁😂🤣😃😄😅😉😊

      6. AE says

        One more thing coal, oil, and gas are renewable resources the plant is still making all of them it will continue to do so for a very long time. So far no one has addressed the issue of climate change attributed to windmills. Windmills both slow the wind and heat the air by their very nature, what effect is that having on our climate?

        I can see one day in the future vast arrays of windmills sitting idle a blight on the planet, as another testament to the failure of liberalism.

        California wants to go with all electric cars, just to supply the daily needs of one service station to fuel the same number of cars it now feeds will require 10 windmills. That is equivalent to $30 million dollars and where will we place all these windmills, will it be in your back yard, oh wait one can not live within 2 miles of any windmill as the constant drumming sound will drive you away. Oh and to purchase the charging stations would be another $24 million.

        Liberal ideas only work when enforced at gun point.

        1. USN Vet 31yrs Svc says

          You are correct. Thats 10 wind mills per service station. Enough to power 20 thousand homes. 30mega watts. How many gas stations are there now? Each one would require 10 wind mills. So on a typical business intersection, 20 or more wind mills. Then go to the next intersection. Imagine the lines of cars waiting to charge. Then you still need to power homes and businesses. It would require hundreds of thousands of “Made in China” windmills. The liberal concepts are never based on reality or scientific fact.

          1. Mathew Molk says

            Actually the big ones are usually made in Germany.

        2. Mathew Molk says

          I have seen a few windmills torn down,,,,because when the subsidies end the maintenance costs are more then the electricity the damn things produce is worth.

        3. pineapple says

          Some environmentalists are saying wind turbines pose
          a threat to whales after a family of minke whales were found dead in
          the United Kingdom. (2015 photo file/Tobias Schwarz/AFP/Getty Images)

          Some environmentalists are saying wind turbines pose a
          threat to whales after a family of minke whales were found dead in the
          United Kingdom.

          According to reports by the Times (London) and Daily Caller, a young
          minke whale was found dead in the United Kingdom on May 20. Its mother
          was found dead on a nearby beach the same day, and a third whale washed
          ashore on May 21. It’s believed the three whales were part of the same
          family.
          Special: Megyn Kelly reveals true reasons for leaving Fox News for NBC

          According to marine wildlife experts, the whales were likely
          disoriented by nearby wind turbines, which can affect the sonar whales
          use to navigate.

          “My personal opinion is that could be a consequence of wind farms
          and the amount of sand in the water,” said John Cresswell, chairman of
          the Felixstowe Volunteer Coast Patrol Rescue Service, according to the Times. “If you stop the boat off the coast you can feel the vibrations and hear the noise.”

          “There are studies that show that the sounds created by the
          operational noise of the turbines create vibrations under that may in
          fact disorient marine mammals like whales,” Bonnie Brady, director of
          the Long Island Commercial Fishing Association, told the Daily Caller.

          Writing for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow in March 2016, CFACT
          Senior Policy Advisor Paul Driessen and Mark Duchamp, the president of
          Save the Eagles International, said in addition to being dangerous to
          whales and other marine animals, offshore wind turbines can cause
          problems for human vessels and aircraft.

          “In addition, having forests of these enormous turbines off our
          coasts will greatly increase the risk of collisions for surface vessels,
          especially in storms or dense fog, as well as for submarines,” Driessen
          and Duchamp wrote. “It will also impair radar and sonar detection of
          hostile ships and low-flying aircraft, including potential terrorists,
          and make coastal waters more dangerous for Coast Guard helicopters and
          other rescue operations.”

          “The offshore wind industry makes no sense from an economic,
          environmental, defense or shipping perspective,” Driessen and Duchamp
          wrote. “To exempt these enormous installations from endangered species
          and other laws that are applied with a heavy hand to all other
          industries—and even to the U.S. and Royal Navy—is irresponsible, and
          even criminal.”

      7. TexasCoyote1 says

        Wind turbines are almost as ugly a blight on the landscape as coal mines. The people of Appalachia need those coal mining jobs for as long as they can produce coal effectively. Solar and wind also need expensive batteries to store the energy.

        Given the events in Puerto Rico, I don’t think this country can possibly have too many sources of energy.

        1. Dan Williams says

          Besides the batteries needed for wind and solar, they generate power only by direct current, meaning the power must be run through a converter station to distribute it through AC transmission grids. All of your household auxiliary power needs are utilizing AC power. Results in extra costs everywhere. Once the Feds take away the subsidies, these technologies may not be competitive or practical..

          1. TexasCoyote1 says

            Yes, I forgot about the details you outlined. Thanks.

      8. America1st says

        Solar and Wind power physically cannot generate a consistent level of power to electrify the power grid. Solar an Wind power require backup natural gas, coal or nuclear power generation to power the grid. Economically, Solar and Wind require heavy government subsidies to be viable and in the long run increase total energy costs.

        1. teachersaide says

          Plus, solar does not work equally all across the USA. I have solar heat, in Midwest. We are lucky if it comes on for 3 days in month of December. It’s usually great in Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May. Wind generators are unfortunately killing large numbers of bats & birds.

          1. Larry Huff says

            You don’t have solar heat.

      9. Mathew Molk says

        What are YOU smoking? – Trust me. If Solar and Wind was cheaper industry would be using it. – We were involved with NASA Lewis in Cleveland where we tool the solar farm out and put them back on the grid. They couldn’t afford to use their appropriations to keep the solar panels working. Even with heavy government subsidies wind will not work with out net metering (selling power back to the coal fired utility) When Holland gave up on wind turbines it should have told you something. –

        For all intents and purposes, we have developed the aerodynamics as far as they will ever get developed and there will be no major advancements in the electrical end of the stick either.

        Here is the cold hard facts about Solar and Wind. – IT DOESN’T WORK!

      10. gvette says

        LOL..does it hurt to be brain dead? All that crap is subsidized by taxpayers. They can’t stand alone. Here’s a list of your coon’s loser plants!
        http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/

        1. gotabgood says

          I am not going through each of them and try to defend them, glancing over the list I see a few names that are still in business.
          But I will share with you a statistic that you would be hard pressed to find in green energy,,,
          What is the value of a human life?
          Why would you defend and encourage growth in the number one killer…COAL?
          Mind you, it only goes back to 1968… and oil only goes back to 2003… all of them have been in business a lot longer..
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/326084c1a4fa3aa713d3df424b0f111e5b7cdf56bae3b8396e1bcd315f8e5b31.png

      11. anibanib says

        Perhaps the cheapest electricity prices at source are the renewables in Sweden….3 cents per kwh

    3. ourzoo10 says

      Yep, and to quote Nancy, “Welfare grows the economy”…….WHAT is that idiot Smoking????

      1. Garys_opinion says

        She’s been brain dead for a long time.

      2. MJB says

        Where is she from? There lies your answer.

      3. marshmil1789 says

        Whatever it is she’s clearly demonstrating its effects. There are three witches from California; Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein and Kerosene Waters. Shakespeare could really have fun with those three–better than Hecate and the other two in MacBeth.

      4. Paul Berry says

        I don’t think she’s smoking it, I think it’s going up her nose. As an idiot she’s far from useful and never has been. Stuck up here in the northeast corner in the Great State of Maine we have more than our share of those idiots. Unfortunately, there’s no know cure for idiocy so we’re stuck with it. If we could convince their fellow idiots to not vote for them it would be a bug plus but I don’t see that happening anytime soon. God Bless America and God Bless Donald Trump.

      5. Retired says

        The Botox fried what little brain she might have had

        1. Rodney Steward says

          I think she tried on Maxine’s wig, a brain killer for sure!

          1. Retired says

            You mean the cuties penetrated her few brain cells ???

          2. Rodney Steward says

            LOL, actually all road kill smells the same, from brain cells to dead dogs!

          3. Retired says

            Then there is Skunks like Pelosi and Schumer along with turn coats like McQueen and McTurtle sitting on Trumps appointments and then the Republicans wonder why he gets bent out of shape .

          4. Rodney Steward says

            These Mc’s are use to those Obama pony rides where they hold on tight to his saddle horn, the more he bounced them the more Obama loved it!! All of America is bent out of shape with the do nothings!

          5. Retired says

            Sad part is we can not get rid of them ,unless Trump removes them from the position they hold and that would be war . They should both retire in term instead of going out on a stretcher .

          6. Rodney Steward says

            UMMMM, stretcher, that’s something to think about, sounds god to me!!

          7. Retired says

            That will be the only way they will get out of politics , just like the Clintons and Pelosi with her war chest ..

          8. Rodney Steward says

            We can wish and hope but these pathetic gods will be our down fall!

          9. Retired says

            At least Trump is trying to prevent it from happening to soon .Lets hope we will not see it .

          10. Rodney Steward says

            I agree 100%, he’s trying hard, but he’s out numbered so bad, but he has we the people that is fed up with these spoiled babies!

    4. DUTCHIET says

      The “P” in EPA is Protect. The coal industry has been a dying industry for sometime. Natural gas will now finish the job, but in the meantime, saving a few job will do more damage the environment, which affect many more that all coal miner. That is not a very good trade off. We get a damage environment for a few more job in a dying industry. Much better to train the miner for job of the future.

    5. marshmil1789 says

      Naturally Glen. That’s what slavery is all about! Keep the masses dependent on the government so the bureaucrats will have guaranteed paychecks and plush offices with parties to boot.

    6. Dan Han says

      Crap jobs for low wages only the Mexicans would work for.

      1. Glen De Lough says

        You know so very, very little about the coal industry. They are well paying jobs, highly sought after and hard to get.

  2. Bill O'Neil says

    Another glaring example of Trump doing everything he can to screw the American people. And, don’t lose track of the fact that Pruitt has always taken his marching orders from the fossil fuel industries.

    1. Retired says

      The best to screw the American people was Bill Clinton as one manufacturing job after another left the country which also included the Drug companies .That is what gave you the 2008 crash as people ran out of money and could no longer make the mortgage payments . Billy Boy also made sure the banks and loan companies would not lose out and GW also followed suit on that . Thank the Democrats that came up with the 0 down payment on a home .

      1. gotabgood says

        The Plight of American Manufacturing
        RICHARD MCCORMACK DECEMBER 21, 2009
        Since <b<2001, the U.S. has lost 42,400 factories —
        and its technical edge.

        http://prospect.org/article/plight-american-manufacturing

        8 years of lil’ bush is completely ignored by you.
        First off he stole the election…. not once but twice!!
        He paid for nothing his whole term in office, it was all on credit.
        Started 2 wars
        gave 2 tax cuts
        Donut hole fiasco in Medicare
        Crushed the auto Industry
        crushed wall street
        crushed the housing market (and I can prove it!)
        See above manufactures leaving USA.
        Jobs were lost at a tune of 800,000 per month!
        Put us a minimum of 8 years behind in infrastructure.
        Now proof of housing market.. and some other little tidbits you should enjoy.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYvtvcBKgIQ
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kskdHCOiI
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aljgYENg–Y

        1. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

          You would prefer Hillary? I bet you voted for the crook.

        2. Glen De Lough says

          Again, you are off topic for most of that drivel and if not off topic there are other causes.

        3. Retired says

          If you knew anything at all manufacturing started leaving after WW2 because we could not produce fast enough for the demand ,mainly for the Auto Industry .In the Sixties the Unions made big advances and in the 70s Companies moved more off shore giving us rust buckets from the imported steel and in the late 80s through the 90s there was one factory after another that closed and gave us the 2008 melt down .

          1. Mathew Molk says

            And management’s dumb dora approach of getting the maximum bottom line on Friday and not caring if there was still a company the following Monday. They put nothing what so ever into the future. And you are right as rain about the confrontation labor relations.

            Bad management, Unions that wanted ever thing they could get and then some and the next thing you knew half the country was driving Jap cars.

          2. Retired says

            You left out Gov. rules and regulations ??? The three causes for the loss ,actually it was four if you include the Stock Holders .

        4. Greg Hernandez says

          Darn now you show how you missed the whole Constitution and the electoral college and you missed all the damage the democrats did by not working WITH the president.
          Prospect .org another unliberal / regressive site. Can’t you even find a truthful site either.Guess you missed that too.

          What planet are you living on…Maybe what GALAXY are you in ?

          1. Mathew Molk says

            How ’bout the unfilled construction jobs building and remodeling factorys all around the Great Lakes because every qualified person is working?

            The PRIVATE money funding the above?

            The jobs in those factorys when the job is done.?

        5. Joseph Carrilho says

          Jump into a wood chipper.

          1. Mathew Molk says

            Just got done rebuilding a 12″ drum chipper for a client today.

            We can “kill” 2 birds with one stone. We can show gottagoo that people are investing in their business, and test the chipper at the same time.

        6. Mathew Molk says

          Who said Bush was a bargain? Just he was a ton better then that half honky that claimed to be the first black president. – He fixed it so there will never be a black president for the rest of this centenary, though.

          1. gotabgood says

            A ton better…
            You’re not alone in your twisted way of thinking.
            You know lil’ bush was the worse president since Hoover, but you defend him.
            You think losing 800,000 jobs a month is better than creating (an average over 8 years) 110,000 a month!
            You think the auto industry should have filed bankruptcy, rather than going back up to number 1.
            You think creating a donut hole in Medicare at the tune of 47 Billion dollars.. not paid for, Than Obama giving healthcare to 20 million who never had insurance.
            You think lil’ bush “come one, come all” and buy a home, helped the housing market.
            Creating two unfunded wars at the same time giving two unfunded tax cuts was a smart.
            You think the stock market at 7000 under lil’ bush is better than 19,000 under Obama.
            The key thing you said and it really says it all about you, the way you think, your standing in society…… “black president”

      2. Bill O'Neil says

        Straight from the Russian troll farm.

        1. Retired says

          Why do you brag about yourself like that , you are the Russian bot .

          1. river says

            I like Putin better than any stink finger liberal.

          2. Retired says

            Actually him and Benjeman from Israel have quite a history compared to other world leaders .Merkel from Germany is also well educated to bad she fell for the UN and take all those refugees . It will be interesting how May fares in England with the London Muslim Mayor .

          3. Mathew Molk says

            Well educated,,,,, and completely inexperienced in real life and the real world.

            Therein the problem lies.

          4. Retired says

            Which one are you talking about????

          5. Bill O'Neil says

            You can’t even make any sense on your own.

    2. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

      Too bad Trump could not be like Obama. He could open the borders for people who want us dead, regulate business out of business, destroy the medical system, increase taxes, fly his dog on a separate plane, his wife and kids on another, raise funds and campaign continually, and lie from daylight to dark and in between. We would be better off to throw Trump out.
      That seems to be the consensus of opinion of people who want to keep the country unemployed and dependent on government.

      1. WhiteFalcon says

        I think you have a basic understanding of things.

      2. Bill O'Neil says

        Is that all your Russian handlers are giving you to work with?

        1. Retired says

          You are the Russian Bot so why try to pawn it off on others .Better watch out the KGB will pay you a visit for being a failure .

        2. river says

          I dunno, I like the Russians better than I like liberal creepy crawlers.

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            That makes sense that an anti-American like you would like the Russians.

          2. river says

            Answer the question, Bildo ! Did someone die and leave you in charge of who can be American? Cause as of yet, I don’t recall some Mr. Rogers, 1/2 wit being voted into American citizenship social acquisition.

          3. river says

            and I still like the Russians better than some racially screaming liberal garden slug.

          4. Mathew Molk says

            Who don’t ?

            I have a Russian uTube pen pal that I trade Machine Shop tips with. The only thing I’d like to trade with a NWO Marxist is punches. They can go first too. It will only take me one to flatten one of those snowflakes. One RIGHT jab and the leftest snowflake would be good for the whole day. ,,,,and half the night.

          5. river says

            LOL.. Russians are less a threat to America than whining emotionally unstable and underdeveloped liberals.

        3. Joseph Carrilho says

          Does your constipation hurt? You are FULL of shit…..

        4. Greg Hernandez says

          Oh little Billie Boy , Russia , Russia , Russia . All the little zombies staggering around for months and not ONE shred of evidence , only that Bubba and Hillary got millions from the Russians . Is that all you got from your demorat handlers ?

          1. Bill O'Neil says

            You just don’t want to look at the evidence. The truth will bite you in the ass.

          2. Retired says

            The truth already bit you in the ass ,when Hitlery lost . Better go back to Russia where you belong and putting can send you to Siberia in the mines at hard labor

        5. Mathew Molk says

          You NWO Marxist useful idiots crack me up. Your commissars have not done a very good job or teaching you transference. A 3d grader could see right through you commies.

        6. river says

          confused libtard… is there a short bus stop near this location?

    3. Greg Hernandez says

      Yup , sure is screwing the people after ozero tried to kill off a whole industry. Get real , you have no clue about this.

      1. Bill O'Neil says

        Says a Putin troll.

        1. Greg Hernandez says

          Hmmmm Hernandez /Putin troll , don’t think so . 5 years in the USAF , 2 tours in Nam , nah , not into Russia but Hillary and Bubba sure have their nose stuck up some Russian butts to the tune of millions of dollars. I think that since your head is screwed on backasswards , your brain isn’t quite working either. Now we are talking about energy. If you can’t figure that out , go back to the cellar and chase demo RATS.

          1. Retired says

            Probably a NYC sewer RAT !! Obama wants to go live with them . That would be his 5th place since leaving the WH .

          2. Bill O'Neil says

            Sure you did.

          3. Mathew Molk says

            What was YOUR MOS, snowflake? and what years were you in combat?

            I was a combat engineer in Vietnam. Class of 68. 12A10 before I went to OCS if you need to know.

            So what about you?

          4. Bill O'Neil says

            Sure you were. What a loser.

          5. Mathew Molk says

            Welcome home Brother.

    4. Mathew Molk says

      Aren’t you one of the top experts that came out every Monday morning and said Trump would implode by Thursday and it was going to be the cackling witch by a landslide? – Your opinion of our President is right in line with your pundantcy all along.

      In other words, You don’t know shit.

  3. gotabgood says

    Did you hear that Scott Pruitt got his own private jet?
    Also;
    Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke
    US Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin
    Anybody else that you can think of?
    Is Trump paying for these jets?
    Are they paying for these jets?
    Are YOU paying for these jets?
    Tell me again how you plan on cutting spending????
    Oh, yeah… cutting SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Planned Parenthood… the things rich people don’t need………… UNLESS you are fooling around!!!!

    Tim Murphy resigns from Congress
    The anti-abortion Republican was embroiled in scandal after reportedly encouraging a woman he was romantically involved with to terminate a pregnancy.

    1. Glen De Lough says

      The fact you post off-topic drivel proves that you have a losing argument.

      1. KingDon says

        That and the fact that he (or she) has a tendency to cut-n-paste prior posts instead of anything new.

        1. Retired says

          Another AKnoLady or one and the same ?????

          1. KingDon says

            Probability is that it’s one and the same or, at the very least, a clone. Or could have been created in a petri dish and the experiment went all wrong.

          2. Retired says

            The remains of a failed abortion , that is why PP needs to be stopped to prevent more like it .

    2. Greg Hernandez says

      If you noticed….which you didn’t , PRESIDENT Trump just fired Mr. Price for using chartered aircraft…Zero never fired anyone for that because he would have had to fire his fat wife. An aircraft for their dog…YOU paid for that one ? Her Hairdresser …You paid for that too. DO YOU get the drift. Trump took and is taking action in his administration , Zero took advantage and wasted millions on travel.

      Zero cut funds to medicare to help fund the worst piece of garbage ever passed by the demorats …ozerocare. Trump did not CUT food stamps , just got the fakes off it and also , if you hadn’t noticed , which again you missed , MORE people are actually working jobs now.

      Planned murderhood is an abortion mill that does NOT offer mammograms or ultrasound exams to pregnant women. They provide no real HEALTH relief , just after sex pills and murder babies and sell the body parts ( Oh yes , you missed that too. ).I hope that they will be defunded ASAP . If you want to support them go ahead , but MY tax money should never go to baby killers.

      Remember Bubba Clinton and the cum-stained blue dress and Monica Lewinsky ? Oh wait , you missed that too.

      Now just get back to the subject and stop trying to show us how ignorant you are of Government , economics , morals and the environment.

      1. susmart3 says

        Fired him only after it came to light- now what about the *others* who are freeloading jet setters on the public’s dime?

        1. Greg Hernandez says

          Like I said Trump fired him obama would have given him a promotion. It is a problem id the swamp dwellers and Trump proved he will drain the swamp. Something demorats have never done because demorats have been just as busy ripping off the taxpayer..

          Of course he fired him ” After it came to light ” If he hadn’t learned about it Price would not have been fired….. Do you really have a brain ? Maybe you’re a susmart 3rd grader.

          1. susmart3 says

            The President does keep up on the news, especially since it came out that Mnuchin and his wife asked for a jet ride for their honeymoon.

          2. Greg Hernandez says

            Key word…ASKED . Unlike oZero’s hairdresser , dog walker ,hanger ons , etc. Pelosi’s twice a month trips back to San Frantasia. The list goes on and on but no one in Trumps administration comes as close to Clinton , ozero , pelosi and the rest odf the phony democratic party.
            No , you ain’t so smart , just another libtard troll coming out from the slime under a bridge to spread some manure and go back to your slime until some demorat gives you your marching orders to come out and make another stupid comment.

          3. susmart3 says

            Asked? A normal appointee/hire would not *expect* to have use of a private jet for their honeymoon.

          4. Greg Hernandez says

            Hey , notsosmart 3rd grader , ASKED is not expecting. Guess you never had to study the English language in school. It is actually funny sometimes watching you unsane libtards get your panties all twisted up over stuff the demorats have been doing since the 1840’s. Lying , stealing , election fraud and now all the illegal perks they have. Yes , some republicans too but we usually get rid of them by VOTING them out of office.
            Go back to school and learn to read and possibly comprehend what you read.

          5. susmart3 says

            No, you don’t vote them out of office, you hire them.

            But keep it up- I get paid for every insult received!

    3. Mathew Molk says

      Did you hear the Indians are playing the Yankees tonight and Roger Godell caved in to the President?

  4. gotabgood says

    I wonder where Pruitt got all his information? Museum?

    Things you should consider before defending dinosaur technology.

    The U.S Has More Solar Workers Than Coal Miners
    https://cleantechnica.com/2014/07/22/u-s-solar-workers-coal-miners/
    >
    Wind power is now cheaper than nuclear – the energy revolution is happening
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/26/offshore-wind-power-energy-price-climate-change
    >
    Low Costs of Solar Power & Wind Power Crush Coal, Crush Nuclear, & Beat Natural Gas
    https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/25/cost-of-solar-power-vs-cost-of-wind-power-coal-nuclear-natural-gas/
    >
    Today’s Energy Jobs Are in Solar, Not Coal
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/25/climate/todays-energy-jobs-are-in-solar-not-coal.html
    >

    1. Steven Hoffman says
      1. Bill O'Neil says

        Putin wants to sell his crude oil and natural gas. He doesn’t care about the future of the planet (like Trump).

        1. Retired says

          You really crawl up Putin’s rear the way you support him – Obama – Clinton and the Demon Rat Party . You sold your soul to the devil .

          1. gotabgood says

            You are so deep in denial………….. how do you breathe???
            OH!!!! I see………

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f5ba6bb540a9c3a08f5d2013628f1eb99d5a78370c00c8260b8b423c62a94255.jpg

          2. Bill O'Neil says

            Another stupid comment. You need to focus.

          3. Retired says

            It was you demotards that started the Russia and Putin BS and now congress is wasting time on it instead of doing its job.

    2. G.Mann says

      gota be crazy…. I call Buffalo Chips on all your post. NONE of those “clean energy” industries you list can survive without GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY. They CAN NOT PRODUCE A PROFIT and stand on their own value without being underwritten by the government tax dollar.

      As soon as the SUBSIDY MONEY runs out.. they go broke… Thousands of “wind generators” stand idle and produce nothing after HUGE capital investment… of government money.. but NONE OF THEM HAVE PAID FOR THEMSELVES BY GENERATION OF ELECTRIC POWER.

      You have posted a list of “feel good government programs” that don’t pay their own way.. I’m in the industry.. I know what the bottom line looks like.

      1. gotabgood says

        Speaking of feel good government program… the oil industry has been around a 100 + years… making googobs of money and still get subsidies..
        And you are telling lies about not generating enough electricity to pay for itself.
        After devastating tornado, town is reborn ‘green’
        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/greenhouse/2013/04/13/greensburg-kansas/2078901/
        >
        100% Renewable Energy For Burlington, VT
        population of Burlington is about 42,000.

        https://cleantechnica.com/2014/09/23/100-renewable-energy-burlington-vt/
        >
        There have been large sections of the USA that have been living off the grid for decades.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d172f974954c6236bc5585321ab4a1057c728d1a7ed1d38314aae58c64341b2b.jpg

    3. Greg Hernandez says

      Why do you have to repeat the same bs post ? It is still BS and that won’t change it .

      1. Retired says

        What did you expect from a communist Bot ????

      2. gotabgood says

        Because there are more than one of you that has things assbackwards.. you will tell the lie.. I will tell you the truth.. and then one of your Trumpketeers will write the lie again.. and then I have to tell the truth again… but if you have been keeping rack… you will notice the truth keeps getting updated… like I said 2014 set new heat records… then I said 2015 set new heat records and then 2016 and now 2017 is on track of breaking those records..
        And 2014 there might have been more coal workers than solar workers… not so any longer… more solar workers than coal workers…. keep up or get left behind with your ancestors….. the dinosaurs.

        1. Mathew Molk says

          Look small child. There are several of us that are actually IN the electrical power generation industry. We have had our hands on the equipment and know the advantages and problems and advantages. — Wind will NEVER be able to take over from Fossil or nuclear. It is as good as it will ever get unless you change the laws of physics. Solar may someday be viable to a degree in selected parts of the country, but it will NEVER completely replace the power we have on the grid right now. – There is also geothermal and the ways we use power that have not reached the end of the line,,,but wind. It will never get any better then it is already. – When was the last great advance in sail boats? Like 100 years ago? 100 years from now wind will not be any more efficient.

          That comes from an engineer that has worked on these fiascos. I have actually made more money removing solar and wind then I have installing the worthless crap.

          Again, snowflake – IT DOESN’T WORK!

        2. zookeeper216 says

          LOL..not true. The weather channel did a supposed map of climate change and Ohio didn’t comform with their data. I live in Ohio and our winters suck. You don’t do ten year cycles, it doesn’t work that way. Try forty or fifty year data.

          1. gotabgood says

            Climate is not about Ohio.. in fact it is not even about USA.. it is the world.
            1* is a difference between ice and water. Where there is an abundant amount of ice that 1* makes a world of difference.
            When it is 100* in the desert and it cools down to 99* there will be no great change, your a/c will still kick on and you will feel no difference.
            I haven’t looked this up, but I will go out on a limb and say there hasn’t been one cold record broken in the last 10 years. Heat records they fall every year.
            What NASA and NOAA use is about a 180 year chart.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=gGOzHVUQCw0

    4. zookeeper216 says

      Solar, not in Ohio.
      Wind power, using WW2 technology.
      Nuclear power? No, not in my back yard.
      Coal, Our coal fired plants ran at 90% efficiency and no spent rods or Three Mile Island meltdown.
      “Fifty-seven accidents have occurred since the Chernobyl disaster, and almost two-thirds (56 out of 99) of all nuclear-related accidents have occurred in the US. There have been comparatively few fatalities associated with nuclear power plant accidents.”
      I take it that last part was a lie.

      1. gotabgood says

        I don’t call nuclear clean energy… the waste is just as deadly to the environment as before. And if something did happen… well like BP.. It killed 11 people, untold amount of sea life… polluted water, air and beaches, ruined wetlands..and is an on going process of clean up that is over a billion dollars. And nuclear is just as bad if not worse.
        And then there is coal… the most filthiest fuel we have for our environment and that goes with the miners lungs too. The cave ins not often but when they do…it is a major catastrophe. The last one I know about I believe was in Colorado, or vicinity.
        And green energy hasn’t done as much harm to the coal industry as natural gas… the myth that natural gas is better for our environment is a joke,
        The good Lord buried “fossil fuel” deep… under mountains, under the oceans and we are bound and determined to show the Lord we know better!!

        1. Mathew Molk says

          I thought I told you to get back in our crib and suck your thumb. The next time you suit up and go out and actually work in any of the industries you are promoting or are bad rapping, will be the first time.

          I have no use for an armchair engineers and technicians. When you get out there and get dirty then get back to me. — We have little or no respect for anybody who never attended Burns and Blood Tech. (bet that went right over the cupcake’s head)

          1. gotabgood says

            There are many things I do not know and will confess them to you as in your Burns and Blood Tech… even the internet had trouble with that one.
            So if you only respect those that attended this…… whatever it is… you have very few people you respect.
            But to confess ones ignorance is the beginning of wisdom… to broadcast your intellect is confessing your stupidity.

        2. zookeeper216 says

          With all the government regulations our coal fired plants operated at 90% efficiency. Pretty darn good.
          The problem I see and smell is diesel trucks. That is nasty.
          As for coal mines, they have safty regulations that have really made the difference. No more pick and shovel or black lung.

          1. gotabgood says

            I hear condemning regulations and praising regulation all in the same post. Confusing isn’t it? One suits you just fine and the other doesn’t. That is democracy at its best. You can’t have everything the way you want it. It is the majority rules.
            As for diesel, they have had an alternative fuel for them for years,… left over McDonalds french fry oil. But they have other, and better fuels now….. it seems there is a lot of red tape they have to fight through… mainly from the right and of course big oil companies.
            Algae is one they have been experimenting with, they have commercial airlines using it now.
            If the right would just quit fighting everything that comes down the pike, this country… this world would be a lot better off.. For one, healthcare would have been fixed by now… and cheaper… we would have been 35 years ahead of where we are today if Reagan would have left the solar panels on the WH roof.

      2. Mathew Molk says

        I’m with you on the Wind and Solar, but you watched too many Hanoi Jane movies.

        There is nothing wrong with the nuclear industry in this country. There have been TONS more injuries and fatalities in fossil fuel plant. There are also orders of more failures in fossil fuel plants. Mainly because of the much greater QC and QA in the Nuclear industry.

        I have worked in all types of power generation save Hydro both in plant an in the manufacture of the equipment.

        And calling Chernobyl an accident shows how much everbody knows about the reality of nuclear power. – They tried to put the reactor in trouble as a training exercise. – They were successful, Just they couldn’t get it back. 3 mile was not a melt down either. It was a sensor failure and operator error.

        There rare many more safeguards today then there were back then. Every technology has growing pains BTW. Using your somewhat erroneous concepts of the nuclear industry on everything else we would be sitting in caves burning wood. Steam has killed far more people then Nuclear ever will. – Look up Hartford Steam Boiler and ASME Section IX. Their very existence is a testament to the way we handle the development of power. – This “not in my back yard” mentality would have resulted in the total abandonment of steam power and the industrial revalution would never have occurred. – Compare the lost of life electrical fires every year to all people directly killed in nuclear accidents using a Ralph Nader mentality and you will be running around demanding electricity be banned.

        I guess the bottom line is anything perfectly safe? – No. Is anything perfectly efficient? – No….. Do we learn form mistakes and make things better YES!

        I’ll take cheap nuclear power over sitting in the dark any day.

        1. zookeeper216 says

          My brother is a Vietnam veteran and I resent the fact that you brought that bit#h up. Pissed me off, right from the start.
          As for the nuclear industry, maybe you should check out the age of these plants, the condition of these plants, which ones are leaking, and have been leaking and why they built them on fault lines.
          Many should have been closed years ago but they still get their permits renewed, year after year.
          In the big picture, they don’t really provide that much energy.
          Japan has closed all their plants. It took one disaster to realize that they aren’t safe.

    5. America1st says

      Repeating a lie does not make it true.

    6. Mathew Molk says

      Every single thing you cite is an out and out lie, just like the firws time you posted it.

      And pal, you don’t know a BTU from and RBI. Go back to your crib and suck your thumb.

  5. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

    Another promise kept. If the despicable democrats and some despicable republicans were not such Trump haters, a lot could be accomplished that would help every American taxpayer.

    1. Retired says

      They just do not get that concept !

      1. Garys_opinion says

        That’s because they don’t really give a Damn about the American people, they are only looking inward to what gains them political power, the country be damned!

        1. marshmil1789 says

          Exactly Gary. Thanks. And the “useful idiots” keep on voting for them and being hoodwinked. That’s what low information perpetrated in our schools today by substandard faculty gets us in return for taxpayer money being spent.

          1. AKLady says

            “As experts recognize new form of black lung, coal industry follows familiar pattern of denial.” https://www.publicintegrity.org/2013/11/01/13653/experts-recognize-new-form-black-lung-coal-industry-follows-familiar-pattern-denial

          2. Retired says

            One thing you over look they are also smokers , have you ever seen them on strike or when there is a accident ????

          3. AKLady says

            Assumptions and lies …

          4. Retired says

            As usual you can NOT answer a Question . But you lived in every state how did you miss that ????

          5. marshmil1789 says

            Retired I blocked her filth months ago. She’s trained in just about every profession available. She’s an atheist, a progressive and that summed up means she’s a nut case. All liberals are.

          6. AKLady says

            Prove it. Why do you beleve it is acceptable to lie?

          7. zookeeper216 says

            Have you no lfe? You’re always here moaning and groaning.

          8. ernldo says

            Its (ak-Malady) is a four hundred pound, bed restristed he/she afro, cheeto eating slob. All it does is troll these threads. Why not just make the tard go away, BLOCK it!

          9. anibanib says

            And you are trained in believing all the crap that Drumpelclunt says………just like baboons at the zoo

          10. marshmil1789 says

            Who is Drumpelclunt? Never met that person or heard of him/her until you invented him/her.

          11. anibanib says
          12. marshmil1789 says

            Stick with your Antifa swine herd. You are now blocked from my screen.

          13. anibanib says

            Thank you so much, I hate the sight and smell of Yankee wussie turds

          14. Garys_opinion says

            A foreigner huh? Go away!

          15. anibanib says

            Why……….this is a WWW website open to the world,and remember the USA is only 5% of the worlds land area………so absolutely anybody can comment here and say almost anything they want, whether you like it or not

          16. Garys_opinion says

            I thought so.

          17. anibanib says

            Wow, you actually used that thing between your ears

          18. Garys_opinion says

            You misunderstood, I meant I thought you were a meddling foreigner.

          19. Garys_opinion says

            No, I thought that you were a foreigner trying to influence American public opinion. Are you so naive to think that I would give up that easily?

          20. mac12sam12 says

            I call him “Euro Trash.” He denies that Europe has a refugee problem.

          21. zookeeper216 says

            I voted for Trump so you roaches would scurry back to your holes. You people are rude and crude little pricks.

          22. anibanib says

            ….and who are…………..””You people are rude and crude little pricks.””???

          23. zookeeper216 says

            Socialists.

          24. anibanib says

            How do you know they are socialists, is it printed on their backs or do they walk funny…………like Basil Fawlty

          25. zookeeper216 says

            You can spot them in any crowd. They’re the ones who’d rather let somebody else make decisions for them instead of making them themselves.

          26. anibanib says

            How???????, do they wear a sign on their backs, or walk funny, speak in foreign languages…………interesting to hear your view…………..I know that Americans can be spotted anywhere in the world

          27. zookeeper216 says

            They wear their vaginas on their heads.

          28. anibanib says

            Americans can be spotted anywhere in the world………wow……….cos they wear their vaginas on their heads

          29. zookeeper216 says

            You sure get off track. Are you dumb or just a useless Democrat.

          30. anibanib says

            Nope,just like you I guess, a conservative

          31. zookeeper216 says

            Then act like one.

          32. anibanib says

            A conservative in Sweden, is nowhere near an American righty, in fact if you read the Swedish consevative manifest, you would think it was very socialistic

          33. joe_heathen says

            And you’re telling the world that the Trumpazee is not rude and crude? Please elaborate with five examples to legitimize your assertions.

          34. zookeeper216 says

            lolI I don’t have to tell you anything. You voted for Obama and Hillary, you lack logic.

          35. joe_heathen says

            Don’t have the knowledge or balls to back up your allegations, do you? Whatta wimp!

          36. zookeeper216 says

            Yeah, I meet ya’ll on the internet and you’re rude and crude. You start with personal insults. Progress to religion. Move on to name calling. Throw in racism and being a bigot.
            Pretty standard.

          37. zookeeper216 says

            I’m like you honey, ball less.

          38. RICHARD says

            you must be a faithful follower of the muslim gay ni66er that just got kicked out of OUR WHITE HOUSE

          39. chucky001 says

            Wrong. conservatives like you are nut cases.

          40. marshmil1789 says

            Thanks chucky001. You just won yourself a block party. Enjoy! You are now blocked from my screen. The gate is closed.

          41. zookeeper216 says

            lol, we know who the nut jobs are.

          42. Garys_opinion says

            Well , prove it!

          43. ernldo says

            It can prove ONLY its own ignorance and hate. Sadly, if the alMalady gets its way, he/she will become food in minutes. You should just block the idiot.

          44. anibanib says

            I do hope the coal miners will be pleased, now they can work up until they are roundabout 50 yrs old,then die from black lung, but then, where the coal is mined in the USA there is nothing else for them to do……………and they get no free healthcare either…….working in conditions that are no better than what they were125 yrs ago

          45. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

            At least they will be working

          46. anibanib says

            Just so that you can flick a switch and the light comes on and the TV starts…….arent you a lucky little bunny, then like I said, he could quite possibly die an early death, whereas the guys who supply Swedish energy sit in chairs and play with knobs and switches, never ever getting their hands dirty

          47. zookeeper216 says

            Wrong.

          48. anibanib says

            Wrong, what is wrong, check you facts about workers who have worked in the mines, their life span is much much shorter than other workers, and even their last years of life is not very nice, even with all the modern medicines, if they can afford them, their standard of life is very very poor………….but………you Yanks want cheap electricity……..and you still dont get it cheap as we swedes do

          49. Patricia Romano says

            No asshole I know people who have desk jobs and r dying of all kinds of cancer too many of my friends r sick and it’s not from coal and my uncle had coal heat for years and lived till 96 tell them to your libtart friends 😱

          50. Jennings B says

            What you are saying is absolute truth. Coal miners were used by “Mr. Peabody” until they were used up, about 50 for an old timer. Seems ashamed that we can’t tap into the natural powers such as “Yellowstone”, among several others. Thermal energy works, especially for Sweden.

          51. zookeeper216 says

            They passed new regulations in 2016. Read them.

          52. anibanib says

            What new regulations in 2016, have you got a link

          53. Natalie says

            So I’m assuming you care so much about coal miners you have no electricity, don’t patronize places that do. Don’t drive or take the bus or call Uber to take you to the violent rallies where you attack people although you claim to be the tolerant and compassionate. I’m also assuming you didn’t bother to read the article, don’t care that the regulations did nothing for the environment and only illegally gave the government more power over the very people you claim to care so much about and would have devastated them financially. None of that pesky reality matters to you right? As long as you can give smug, shallow lip service to ‘caring’.

          54. anibanib says

            It is quite true that coal does produce about 2 thirds of US energy…..but it doesnt have to be like that, even Sweden about 50 yts ago also used some coal, not a lot, but enough…..and nowadays we dont ue any fossil fuels at all for energy production, and our energy is so many times cheaper that yours in the USA, round about 3 cents a kwh at source

          55. Garys_opinion says

            And how do you do that? Do you get your electricity from wind mills, those unsightly bird choppers that the Kennedy’s didn’t want to see from their Hyannis Port homes, or the solar panels that cause so much pollution (in China) and will here also when they start piling up in landfills. Maybe your electricity comes from Atomic energy plants like three mile island, or from natural gas from fracking. Making electricity is not a pretty business, but in Puerto Rico they are finding out how necessary it is.
            Just sit back and do a little thinking about it!

          56. anibanib says

            You are the one who should start thinking how WE produce electricty. Just collect a few numbers………..

            Fossil fuel less than 1%
            Hydro……..40%
            Nuclear……32%
            Renewables,,27%

            We get very little from solar panels due to high latitude and dark days half of the year, wind is also very very small, as Denmark have high capacity, and hydro we have had for over 100 years, small plants across the nation together with large scale since WW2, nuclear we have 3 sites, and the interesting part is that about 26% comes from household trash incineration, in which Sweden is the world leader in design and extreme efficiency, total have we about 24 ppm emissions compared with the USA of well over 500ppm, and our electricity costs only 3 cents per kwh at source. Household trash incineration is also known as CHP, extremely quiet and clean

          57. America1st says

            And you don’t produce enough electricity to power NYC.

          58. anibanib says

            Dont we, and how do you know that…………Sweden produces NY City 112mwh 81% fossil………..sweden 154mwh

          59. AKLady says

            The US has 99 nuclear reactors, 61 are commercially operated power plants.

          60. AKLady says

            More disrespect for those who have been struck with a devastating illness.
            Have some respect. It can happen to someone you love. It is a serious illness, not just a word for you to toss around as an insult.

          61. zookeeper216 says

            I didn’t see any respect from you when I mentioned my son was killed by a drunk truck driver. So, don’t get all high and mighty.

          62. mac12sam12 says

            It is a serious illness and I’ve never seen anyone repeat themselves more than you. Seek help!

          63. AKLady says

            No one forces you to read my posts.
            Suggest you develop more self control, and maturity.

          64. mac12sam12 says

            Sorry mom!

          65. mac12sam12 says

            Sorry Mom!!

          66. zookeeper216 says

            Old and leaky.

          67. chucky001 says

            Yet all the energy sources you mention are more environmentally friendly than coal. Even nukes, when proper safeguards are taken.

          68. zookeeper216 says

            Not true, at all.

          69. joe_heathen says

            Using factual sources, prove your assertion and disprove of chucky001’s comment. You obviously have references that few others do. Reveal them and make a name for yourself.

          70. niknar says

            Absolutely true, & by a huge margin.

          71. ernldo says

            anibanib is an idiot. You’d carry on a more lively debate with a potato. You should save your sanity and block the nitwit….

          72. anibanib says

            Takes an idiot to recognise an idiot……..danks maaaaan

          73. zookeeper216 says

            “The current population of Sweden is 9,931,144 as of Friday, October 13, 2017”

            “The current population of the United States of America is 325,114,561 as of Friday, October 13, 2017, based on the latest United Nations estimates.”

            What works for Sweden won’t work for the US.

          74. anibanib says

            WHY??????

          75. zookeeper216 says

            Population, not to mention size. Wind turbines still use WW2 technology. They are way to expensive and after 6 months their output diminishes. You’d need a million of them. Solar, maybe in the warm climate, not practicle for the northern climate. Nuclear reactors are dangerous. Japan has shut theirs down. Nobody wants one in their backyard or a 500 mile radius. One accident could kill thousands and kill the land forever.
            Our coal fired plants were running at 90% efficiency rate. That’s clean.
            Diesel fuel on the other hand is filth.

          76. anibanib says

            So you say coalpower in the USA is clean, about 66% of your power comes from coal, and YOUR emissions are about 560 ppm according to Carma and you own energy governing body………compared that with Sweden energy plants and we only have about 25 ppm……..also according to Carma, perhaps that is cos we dont use fossil fuels for energy production, there is a vast difference between a coal fire plant and a CHP plant……….a CHP plant looks like this, NO smoke only wisps of steam https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f6797b657fcae9d63e68d47c55de44718f01e198723e08e71a773784ded0e177.png

          77. zookeeper216 says

            BOOM,,lol. Then all you have is dead bodies. As for our government, was that before or after Obama. The Obama adm. had a tendency to lie about all things coal.
            As for pollution talk to China, Mexico and the rest of the third world countries who don’t use the technology for clean coal.

            http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/features/mayak-nuclear-disaster280907/

            Where do send your nuclear waste?

          78. anibanib says

            Here are the numbers etc etc for China the USA and Sweden, both China and the USA have extremelyhigh emissions, and Swedish nuclear waste is stored in Sweden, 600 meters down inside granite

          79. zookeeper216 says

            Now it is.

          80. anibanib says

            .and for ever Amen

          81. anibanib says

            IT will,if there is a will there is a way. Sweden too used coal,as much as the USA does now,perhaps more, as much as 80% of our energy came from coal after WW2..so why did we change, for the health of our citizens and to keep the country clean and safe. We had at that time more emissions that the USA, but now we have perhaps only 25% of USAs present emissions, and we can produce energy at a quarter the cost of the coal fired plants in the USA…….and wecan with safely for our health drink water in any stream river or lake

          82. zookeeper216 says

            Until you get a leak, we have five plants that have been leaking for years yet, they still keep getting their permits renewed.

          83. anibanib says

            Until we get a leak, but Sweden does have the same kind that the USA uses……..no leaks or scares since they started up

          84. zookeeper216 says

            lol..that you know of. I didn’t know until I started doing a little digging.

          85. ernldo says

            Its NOT working in Sweden either….

          86. anibanib says

            It is working very well for Sweden, perhaps something you didnt know is that the Scandinavian countriesare all coupled together, 24-7, and everything is controlled by Nordpool in Norway, whether its wind,water or nuclear……….hardly any fossil fuels………..and on a fresh windy day Denmark gets all of its energy from Wind.

          87. AKLady says

            Thank you.
            Your input is always welcome
            It says so much about you.

          88. chucky001 says

            Stupid post. Regulations are not killing the coal industry, competition from cheaper, cleaner energy like natural gas is. And the regulations did plenty for the environment, according to scientists who utterly TROUNCE conservitards like you in intellect.

          89. zookeeper216 says

            Regulation was killing the coal industry and Obama smiled when he did it.

          90. niknar says

            The coal industry has been declining for a long time, because it’s such a dirty source of energy, it harms its workers as well as the public & the environment, & other sources of energy have become more cost competitive. It will continue to decline no matter what Trump does, but he can delay their demise & provoke more health crises & environmental harm than necessary in the process, as Trump, the Destroyer, is wont to do.

          91. Gene Moser says

            You want to tell me I was substandard?

          92. marshmil1789 says

            OK, be happy to if you so request. Don’t know what you refer to.

          93. marshmil1789 says

            Yes you are definitely a member of the swine herd sometimes called the Democratic Party of communists. We the People have no time for you filthy, substandard swamp reptiles.. You are now blocked from my screen. The gate is closed.

          94. Gene Moser says

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          96. ernldo says

            You now see why many of us have blocked that reTard….you should do the same….

          97. anibanib says

            You Yanks have a very special way of not wanting to read certain comments, and certain forums do have that unique possibility of BLOCKING another person……….perhaps the owner of these websites are also a braindead wussie turds

          98. mac12sam12 says

            Trump is having ISIS decimated in the ME and blocking them from coming here, while your stupid leaders invite them in and then they head directly to the welfare line. Good luck with the Jihadis, Euro trash!

          99. joe_heathen says

            Didn’t Trump PROMISE to destroy ISIS within 30 days of his taking office? So, describe, using fact-based sources, how Trump has decimated ISIS, white trash.

          100. mac12sam12 says

            He’s decimating Obama’s JV team because he lets the general do their jobs. We had a community organizer running the military.

            Trump will get two terms, hillbilly white trash are the Clintons.

          101. joe_heathen says

            What the hell does your response have to do with Trump’s promise to destroy ISIS within his first 30 days in office? Can’t follow instructions? Can’t identify your biological parents? Your life has obviously been a waste of time, oxygen, and perfectly good water to this point.

          102. mac12sam12 says

            You were gullible enough to believe it? ISIS is being decimated and you won’t hear that on the cartoon channels CNN and MSNBC.

            It was Obama who told the biggest political lies in history.

          103. joe_heathen says

            So Trump lied about defeating ISIS within 30 days of his taking office. Kinda like lying Trump saying that Bush and Obama never called the survivors of dead troops and then modifying his position by saying he didn’t know what Bush and Obama did. Face it, zero, Trump lies like a rug and he’s your role model.

          104. mac12sam12 says

            http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/world/will-isis-leaders-escape-mosul-bergen/index.html Trump loves the troops and the biggest liar to ever infest the WH, Hussein O is furious that Trump is getting rid of another one of Hussein O’s legacies his JV team. From CNN^^^^^^

          105. America1st says

            Questions: Did ISIS grow under Obama? Is ISIS getting stronger under Trump? Is Trunp’s ISIS strategy working?

            Did terrorism expand under Obama? Did Obama release top terrorists to commit more terrorism? Did Obama admit his failed foreign policy supports terrorist? Who said the average family will save $2,500 and you can keep your doctor? Who is the lier?

          106. joe_heathen says

            Don’t have the knowledge to answer the question posed, do you? Trump’s your role model.

          107. America1st says

            Obama, Obama, Obama lies 24/7/365. It’s a congenital condition. Why tell the truth when you lie repeatedly and Dumbcrats still vote and get nothing in return.

            Trump is providing results. Highest stock market is history. Highest Consumer Confidence level in 11 years. Highest Manufacturers’ Confidence Level in 17 years. Lowest unemployment claims filed in 44 years. Winning, winning, winning. Making America Great Again.

          108. mac12sam12 says

            http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/26/world/will-isis-leaders-escape-mosul-bergen/index.html Read. Trump IS decimating Obama’s JV team. Know why? We don’t have a community organizer running the military, welfare man.

          109. joe_heathen says

            Like, “I’m not gonna touch your Medicare and Medicaid” or “I’m going to bring everyone together”?

          110. mac12sam12 says

            No one will touch Medicare or Medicaid and people are more together than you think. The democrat party is the party of the dinosaur because your party is shrinking. Thanks to Hussein O., thousands of democrat seats have been lost and you’re down to 18 governors. Don’t believe MSM polls.

          111. AKLady says

            Targeted harassment — posted harassing comments or discussions targeting Gene Moser, or encouraged others to do so

          112. RICHARD says

            yer stupid!

          113. AKLady says

            You are illiterate ..

          114. dpg01 says

            Can you say affirmative action teachers? We can. Can you say democrat teachers in general spewing their substandard liberal nonsense all day? We can. Can you say those sick progressives who have developed anti-American, history-warping class curriculum for decades? Yes, we can. These “substandard” people have infested the American education system at every level. If I had young children today, they would never attend an American public school or day care for these reasons and more.

        2. AKLady says

          “A Scourge Returns: Black Lung in Appalachia” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4710586/

          1. Garys_opinion says

            You know very little about modern coal mining.

          2. anibanib says

            Whether they mine by hand or machine the coal dust is still there……actually more so, cosmodern coalminingmachines dont lift itout inhuge lumps, nowadays it all comes out as dust or small pieces no bigger than a pea, straight into the open coal rail trucks and off to the power stations spewing dust off of the op of the wagons all the way…..you didnt know that did you, then after burning the coal,all coal fired powerstaions have vast coal sludge ponds,100s of thousands of them across the USA, dirty slimy poisonous sludge water that seeps into the groundwater and into the nearby rivers and lakes………you didnt know that either did you

          3. Retired says

            You are full of it . I live by a coal plant and see the rail cars full of coal . It is bigger than you claim . and there is no sludge pond . at another one 30 miles away it is the same thing no POND . where do you get your BS story from ????

          4. larry harvey says

            I used to live near where coal was burned. In the wintertime after a snowfall, we could see the black ashes over the white snow.

          5. Retired says

            Yes, those were the days before scrubbers and the Utility would blow the soot out of the stack in the middle of the night .I could hear them when it was done , a loud long roar .

          6. chucky001 says

            And when Retired takes the dirt nap and they do an autopsy, they’ll find those same black ashes in his lungs…

          7. Garys_opinion says

            So did I, biut that was a long time ago. Things have changed.

          8. larry harvey says

            The need to breath clean air, drink clean water and have clean soil have not changed. Trump threatens all three.

          9. Garys_opinion says

            How so? Your saying it doesn’t make it true .

          10. larry harvey says

            Come on Gary–Trump is destroying regulations left and right designed to protect health and the environment. His action on coal is just one example.

          11. niknar says

            Industry profits always take priority over health & the environment for Trump & all Republicans, even though they cause economic harm over the long run. Just feed the insatiable greed of the coal & oil companies!

          12. larry harvey says

            Niknar- With Trump it is a mental fixation to undue everything good that Obama has accomplished no matter how much harm Trump causes in so doing.

          13. niknar says

            So true! In fact, it seems that with Trump, the Destroyer, the more harm done the better.

          14. mac12sam12 says

            Name one good thing that Obama did. He created record poverty and a record low workforce and enough people on food stamps to feed Spain. He left Iraq too early and had Gadaphi killed and that caused millions of refugees to head for Europe. He’s the worst president in history.

          15. larry harvey says

            When Obama took office, the nation was in the midst of the Great Recession. When he left office, the recession was a thing of the past, the stock market had soared, corporate profits recovered and the unemployment rate had tumbled. Under Obama minority rights and equality made great strides, discrimination was in retreat, gays could openly serve their country, Iran’s nuclear program was stopped, international trade and travel were promoted, relations with Cuba were restored, undocumented children could become productive citizens, regulations were in place protecting clean air, water and soil and fighting climate change. There was affordable health care for millions and programs to aid education, children and the needy. America was a world leader and had the respect of the world. Our policy was to ease tensions not increase them. The red headed buffoon who calls himself president is reversing all of these great accomplishments. His juvenile tweets, his hysterical rants and his constant lies have destroyed the dignity of the office he holds and have brought shame to this country.

          16. mac12sam12 says

            Obama took a bad situation and made it worse. The economy tanked starting in 2006 because of democrats, not Bush. He went on to create record poverty, a record about of people on food stamps, a reord low workforce and a record amount of businesses going bankrupt of left the country because of high taxes and over regulation. H failed.

            Iran’s nuclear program is in full swing, and they won’t let the UN do any inspections. Plus they gave Iran the money up front, Trump is correct, Obama’s no negotiator.

            Cuba, another bone had move. Cuba gave nothing, the people are still repressed and still can’t use the internet.

            He also made healthcare unaffordable for the middle class and the ACA was instrumental in sinking the economy. Even the architect of the ACA Gruber said in order to pass the bill we will need the help of the low information voter, that wold be you.

            The US has more respect in the world since Trump was elected. When Obama visited China they wouldn’t roll out the steps for AF1 and when he visited Saudi Arabia the king didn’t greet him at the airport like he did with Trump.

            The world knows that Hussein O was a bend over and grab your ankles leader AKA weak.

            Sice Trump was elected the market has increases by over 20% and today was another record day on the market, 23,000. $5 trillion more floating around in the economy.

            Thank you, Mr. President!

          17. TrueAmerican says

            they get their stories right out out of the DemonRat/Socialist handbook of how to destroy AMERICA, they are ALL Clueless

          18. Retired says

            Some also live in the past , like over 50 years ago .

          19. marshmil1789 says

            They are of their father, Lucifer.

          20. anibanib says

            So the 2 plants near where you live dont have sludge ponds, so they are breaking federal law……all coal fired plants must have sludge ponds…………

            Three hundred acres were covered with toxic sludge in late December when a wall of a coal ash holding pond near Kingston in East Tennessee gave way.

            The coal ash pond that ruptured and sent a billion gallons of toxic sludge across 300 acres of East Tennessee last month was only one of more than 1,300 similar dumps across the United States — most of them unregulated and unmonitored — that contain billions more gallons of fly ash and other byproducts of burning coal.

            Toxic Coal Ash Spill in Tennessee

            E.P.A. Report: Coal Combustion Waste Damage Case Assessments

            Like the one in Tennessee, most of these dumps, which reach up to 1,500 acres, contain heavy metals like arsenic, lead, mercury and selenium, which are considered by the Environmental Protection Agency to be a threat to water supplies and human health. Yet they are not subject to any federal regulation, which experts say could have prevented the spill, and there is little monitoring of their effects on the surrounding environment.

          21. chucky001 says

            Live near a coal plant? So sad for you!

          22. Retired says

            So you live in a cave by candle light ,or is it the NYC Sewer and go to the library to use a computer ???

          23. disqus_htVNWSBEmM says

            Coal is in the ground to begin with! Connect the dots!

          24. anibanib says

            So!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and just because it and other fossil fuels are also in the ground……….does not automatically say that they shallbe taken up and used to make energy………….perhaps 150 yrs ago OK, but not today,there are other technologies available now, that American seems to be so stubborn about using…..so what will happen when US oil reserves run dry, cos they will in a few years time, even today you MUST import about 60%of the crude you need every day

          25. safari1024 says

            Your numbers are all way off. The amount of crude oil imports percentage wise is closer to forty percent import, and sixty percent domestic production. The US hit the fifty percent mark in 2013. Also, proven reserves are over 32 million barrels and the proven reserves have increased every year since 2008, so your hypothetical math scenario is deeply flawed and incorrect. I can remember alarmists using the same illogical argument during the oil embargo in 1973.

          26. anibanib says
          27. anibanib says

            You were correct, my source was an old one, didnt notice the date, but even so 32mn doesnt last for many years

          28. safari1024 says

            Good on you for owning up to a correction. As for 32mn lasting, as I stated, the proven reserves have increased each year since 2008. New reserves are discovered all the time. That doesn’t mean crude will last forever, but many industry analysts believe demand will peak and begin to fall long before reserves run out. Now if only the scientists could figure out cold fusion, there would be cheap and plentiful energy for all.

          29. anibanib says

            Possible, but you appear to forget one thing, the typical American love for huge gas driven trucks……….so what does a big truck get..12, 15 mpg……..and they are for one purpose only, to impress other people, that mine is bigger than yours……….and what do most of you guys use them for, meeting friends, off to get breakfast or coffee, perhaps lunch at Mickeys……….but ANIBANIB, this is how Americans live, they must have a big truck, its their life.

            SUCKERS

          30. safari1024 says

            I suggest you come visit before you make assumptions. My son owns a good size diesel truck. But he uses it for his business and for plowing snow in the winter. Where I live we get big storms where the snow is often like cement, or mixed with ice and rain and sleet. Smaller trucks get stuck trying to plow, and those are the plain facts of life. During the regular season he tows a good sized trailer with heavy equipment. Once again, not suited to a smaller truck, as it will wear down the engine and transmission, adding to costs and headaches. There are some that drive larger vehicles that may not need that size, but that is the individual’s choice. You must remember, the US is vast, and many people drive great distances. I know I feel safer in a vehicle of substance than in some subcompact that will get destroyed if in an accident with one of over two million tractor trailers on our roads. Of coarse this entire conversation is mostly predicated on price. If the price of gas is high, more Americans will drive smaller cars. And if the price is low, then larger cars and trucks. But if the prices are low, this means that the supplies are plentiful. And BTW, most of the time I am working. That is what the typical American does mostly with their vehicle. Work.

          31. anibanib says

            But you are only talking for yourself, you may well have a good job a nice home and a big truck………but think about all the others who perhaps not as fortunate as you…………this is a problem I find when discussing topics with you Americans……….””its all me””, what I have and what I can do……….think for a moment of the other scores of millions Americans who are perhaps not as fortunate as you,

            ………..And now to something completely different……….some facts about the USA……….many of you say it is the best and the greatest country in the World……..and these are true facts from a US Govn website……
            People living in poverty…………….42 300 000
            People receiving food stamps……41 000 000
            People with no Insurance………….31 000 000
            People on medicaid………………….74 000 000
            Total number on benefits………….164 000 000
            Trade deficit so far, 2017………….$768 000 000 000…….thats billions
            Unfunded liabilities…………………..$106 700 000 000 000………..thats trillions
            US total debt´………$68 trillion………..$208 000 per citizen, not forgetting the fact that in the run up to your last election Trump said on camera that the true unemployment figure in the USA was arounf 26%, and now the figure………..wasnt it last week under 5%, still you guys have different ways of working the numbers, but say what you will there are about 100 million americans of working age without a job who would like a job, even on a slave wage of $8 an hour and NO BENEFITS

          32. anibanib says
          33. mac12sam12 says

            Pussymobile. My Mustang gets to 60 in 3.5 seconds. Fun!

          34. mac12sam12 says

            All under a liberal administration. How are you doing with the muslaims, Euro Trash?

          35. joe_heathen says

            So is uranium, Your point is . . . ?

          36. niknar says

            You are so right. Such a dangerous, dirty, polluting industry!

          37. AKLady says

            My “very little” is a whole lot better than your nothing.
            I am a retired surgeon.

          38. AKLady says

            Why do you need to tell this lie?
            Why do you embarrass America this way?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          39. mac12sam12 says

            Alzheimer disease? Go to your local free clinic and get a checkup. https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2017/10/07/this-economy-is-trump-strong-n2391836

          40. zookeeper216 says

            Why do you find it acceptable to do all the above over and over and over.

          41. zookeeper216 says

            You should have read the whole article. Especially the last part.

          42. zookeeper216 says

            You didn’t read the last part of that article, go back and read it again.

          43. zookeeper216 says

            Read the full article.

        3. ernldo says

          Yup, and its amazing how many dullard base demotards they manage to keep on the plantation, blanco and negro….

      2. AKLady says

        The American tax payer supports the family of every coal industry worker who becomes disabled and/or dies. You, and people like you, just do not get those facts.
        Black lung is a serious illness.
        “Black lung” is also known as “coal miners’ pneumoconiosis”.

        1. Retired says

          There are a lot more that get disabled from bad Quality air than just coal miners .Then there are the chemicals used in the food industry that are cancer causing .Even some of our drugs with side effects can disable people . Just the fumes from filling your gas tank can damage lungs .

          1. Rodney Steward says

            Seems AK is finally getting ZAPPED !! 🙂

          2. AKLady says

            Save your childish insults for someone you can impress.

          3. John Willis says

            AKLady: Go away into the sunset ,just like hillary …lol

          4. AKLady says

            Save your childish insults for someone you can impress.

          5. marshmil1789 says

            Rodney she was zapped long ago. Her thought patterns reveal that. I laugh at the comments posted in response to her inane gibberish. I blocked her atheistic, liberal garbage months ago.

          6. Retired says

            There is no cure for AK as it comes with many names and different scripts.

          7. marshmil1789 says

            She/he/it likely lives alone and has no companionship. The interaction here and maybe at other sites gives that one something to do to partially stay connected to humanity. My impression is that person lives with google looking up info. for answers to commentaries seen at this site and maybe elsewhere.

          8. Rodney Steward says

            Pretty sure sure she’s not missed by anyone!

          9. marshmil1789 says

            “She’s” somewhat like a comedy of errors. Many errors loosely connected with an attempt to make sense out of the mass. Whatever! She’s likely in her highest glory watching how we are focused on her. That way she feels “power” because otherwise she is nobody. Notice how “nobodies”
            stir up things to make themselves feel “important”.

          10. Rodney Steward says

            Don’t worry my friend, there will surely be someone to take her place, there’s plenty out there!

          11. marshmil1789 says

            We know Rodney. We have an overabundance of nut cases. But Rodney have you noticed how the liberals stand out glaringly on sites like this one. They can be identified quickly by their negative attitudes trying to prove someone wrong using very uncivil and substandard English with profanity. They come across as angry and display an argumentative tone. They show up as losers who are trying to argue their losing side back to an alternative winning side. They cannot communicate with standard English. They spice up their posts with profanity. In short they come across with gutter mentality. Oh well. They lost big time last November and have not gotten over it. They are still mad as hell their anti-God, anti-American faction didn’t win last November as they present arguments over picky details unrelated to the “bottom line” or the mostly stable, workable free enterprise way that has made the USA the most powerful, most stable, most benevolent nation on the planet for 288 years. And notice none ever make comments regarding spiritual values unless they are snide remarks debunking religious faith.
            To each his own!

          12. Rodney Steward says

            A very Sharpe and so true comment marshmil,hopefully they will lose in 2018 and 2020, their numbers will more than double!! 🙂 🙂

          13. marshmil1789 says

            The most blatant characteristic of liberals is that they are lacking in spiritual values. Their arguments are combative and center on details that don’t relate to a “bottom line”.

          14. Rodney Steward says

            Absolutely, and that my friend is what I call the total lack of Morals and a little bit of stupidity!!

          15. marshmil1789 says

            I’d say a LOT of stupidity because it contributes nothing.

          16. AKLady says

            You need to educate yourself further in regard to Black Lung.

          17. Retired says

            Do you have any Idea as to how few actually work in the coal mines ??? There are more people that are dying from lung disease than coal miners . Why do you think most mining is done as strip mining these days ,even there they get nailed from the exhaust fumes . You are still in the dark ages of mining .

          18. AKLady says

            You are terribly confused and ell-brainwashed.
            There are six types of coal,
            The type and location defines how they are “mined.”

          19. Retired says

            Yup you are confused and Brainwashed !!!! Now you are a expert on mining ???

          20. AKLady says

            I am a retired physician.
            I am an expert on health.
            I am an expert on workplace injury.
            I am an expert on lung cancer.
            I am an expert on Black Lung.

          21. Retired says

            You are a expert at BS and lies along with cut and paste !!!

          22. zookeeper216 says

            I’m God……

          23. anibanib says

            American doesnt have to use coal or oil or gas for energy production,yet they still do, and still claim that the USA is the most modern equipped and best country in the world, yet still about 65% of USAs energy comes from fossil fuels. Sweden uses no fossil fuels to provide energy

          24. Retired says

            Still having wet dreams ??? The US does use gas from the dump sites for decades . the only way to get more would be to harvest the gas cows produce and like every time you open your mouth .

          25. anibanib says

            That is true, the present breakdown of energy is….

            Fossil fuels 68.75%,
            Hydro 7.07%
            Nuclear 20.46%
            and renewables 3.72 %
            included in that figure of 3.72% is wind power and solar power, so lets say about 1% comes from methane…..not good enough.

          26. AKLady says

            Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich
            Government of corporations, by corporations, for corporations

          27. anibanib says

            But hink, if the coalmines were close in the USA,that would be then end of coal miners sicknesses……….pretty simple,,,,,,,,,my country doesnt have any coal mines, AND we dont have any fossil fueled energy plants either

          28. Garys_opinion says

            And yet we are all living longer. In 1935 when Social Security was started the age to collect was set at 65 years. The reason for this is because most people died before reaching that age.

          29. marshmil1789 says

            The system had its own protective wall built in to limit the number eligible. : ) We need a similar, effective wall now for welfare benefits and which will ansi totally block illegal immigrants getting any benefits from the US Treasury which is the Peoples’ money.

          30. Garys_opinion says

            We use to have it. Slowly, one by one the liberals got rid of them. Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs were the big killer.

          31. Retired says

            It all depends on where you worked and lived as far as living longer . Don’t be surprised if things start going the other way in the future .

          32. Garys_opinion says

            That’s opinion based on nothing.

          33. Retired says

            Not really , if you look at all the side effects that have shown up in the last decade of the so called cure drugs . then there is the anti biotic resistance . Just some of the things to look at plus pollution is not going away . Just think about the mess for the people in CA. right now that pollution is going to carry a long distance .

          34. marshmil1789 says

            The California pollution is a smog of leftist, progressive, liberal Democrats. Even one can pollute a room.

          35. Retired says

            That would be Pelosi one of the worst in the bunch .

          36. marshmil1789 says

            Thanks Retired. Guess who I had in mind with my above post! Har, har, har!

          37. Garys_opinion says

            But people are still living longer. The problems we are going to have are from overpopulation.
            We need electricity to survive, making electricity is not pretty, but a necessary evil. Just ask the people of Puerto Rico what it’s like not to have it, they are just now getting a crash course on it’s value.

          38. Retired says

            Americans on the Mianland would die with the lack of power that long, with all the electronics toys they have . The ones living longer knew how to cock and garden with fresh food .

          39. Garys_opinion says

            That’s true, Just think of all the money lost on rotten meat from a freezer that isn’t operating.
            Our ancestors knew how to take care of themselves without electricity, today people would die without it.
            There would be no food, medicine, transportation, heat, water.
            I often laugh when I hear or read about people complaining about the cost of electricity. It’s the biggest bargain they have at any price!

          40. niknar says

            But we aren’t living as long as many other nations that have better healthcare & greater control over the toxins in our environment.

          41. marshmil1789 says

            The use of tobacco products– smoking in particular– is the number one cause of preventable diseases worldwide. What a mess tobacco farmers and cigarette companies have gotten us into with their greed at the expense of health.

          42. Retired says

            Very addictive like drugs and some medicine . They take the meds away from the people in pain and most are Elderly ,yet they leave the borders open for the drugs to flow into the country .

          43. marshmil1789 says

            The ingredients in tobacco are the most addictive. It is more difficult to get people off tobacco than other “drugs”. The “corrupt fruit” is on the tree. To each her/his own. Warnings
            are clear. You reap the you sew.

          44. anibanib says

            SOW not sew

          45. marshmil1789 says

            “Sew” is correct. One reptile, anibanib, of the Antifa/Democratic Party thinks it is spelled “sow”. Says a lot about that one’s substandard educational level.

          46. anibanib says

            And some of the real nasty drugs that come into the USA come from Afghanistan, that is why the USA is still in that country to manage their only product of interest for the USA, the POPPY………..OPIUM, best quality in the world, and there is at least ONE cargo plane a week that leaves Afghanistan loaded with OPIUM………but that is a big big secret so dont spread it around……………

          47. anibanib says

            WOWWIE, is it so crappy in the USA,

            Bad quality air from energy plants
            Bad quality air in general……possibly transport emissions
            US food products full of chemicals…10yr shelf life….*****
            Medications that disable people

            What a very dangerous place to live in,the USA, even 90 people are shot every day

          48. niknar says

            So are you advocating minimizing such toxic chemicals in our products & environment, as I would, or saying that since it’s in other products, let it be in all products, whether we can take them out or not? Remember, toxins stay & accumulate in our living systems, so the accumulation from various sources of all these poisons is a big reason why so many people today are sick with diseases rare or unknown many years ago.

        2. safari1024 says

          There are many different jobs that include risk. It is each individual’s choice to work in that hazardous environment or not. Coal miner is not even on the top ten list of most hazardous jobs in the country. I work in one of the top ten most hazardous industries and I consider your argument to be more propaganda than substance. Our country is based on our God given freedoms to make our own choices. Stop trying to make other’s choices for them. The taxpayers have to support the victims from the more dangerous jobs also. So by your logic, only jobs where the worker is kept from all chance of harm should be allowed? You are not living in reality.

          1. anibanib says

            God given, and what did he know about coal and coal mining…………this guy GOD he is just a figment of your imagination

          2. safari1024 says

            You are quick to show your ignorance as what I wrote was paraphrased from The Declaration of Independence. I do not care what your beliefs are or are not, so why should you care about mine?

          3. AKLady says

            1. Fishing and fishing relates workers.
            2. Logging workers.
            3. Aircraft pilots and engineers.
            4. Refuse and recyclable material collectors,
            5. Roofers.
            6. Structural iron and steel workers.
            7. Farmers and ranchers.
            8. Driver/sales workers and truck drivers.
            9. Electrical Power line installers and repairers.
            10. Merchant mariner
            11. Taxi drivers and chauffeurs.
            12. Coal miner….
            16. Police officer
            22. Firefighter
            24. Soldier

            You are very well brainwashed. Coal is no longer necessary for the production of energy, has not been for a very long time. One works in those jobs that are available to them. As a physician, I find your “freedom to make choices” to be hysterical, right-wing denial.

          4. safari1024 says

            There are many types of fuels that we use that are not necessary for the production of energy, but they are all parts that add up to the whole of the world’s consumption. Coal can and should be a valuable export commodity. And as an American, I find your belittling my desire for freedom to be totally offensive.

          5. AKLady says

            Nothing in my post is “belittling your desire for freedom.”
            By the way, states have workplace safety laws.
            Maybe, you should try looking those laws up for your state.

          6. safari1024 says

            What do you call this. “As a physician, I find your “freedom to make choices” to be hysterical, right-wing denial.” Why do you have to lie all the time? Why do you have to embarrass yourself all the time?

          7. AKLady says

            You are very well brainwashed. Coal is no longer necessary for the production of energy, has not been for a very long time. One works in those jobs that are available to them. As a physician, I find your “freedom to make choices” to be hysterical, right-wing denial.

          8. zookeeper216 says

            Boo!

          9. niknar says

            Should not the company or industry responsible for harm to its employees & the public not incur the costs? Must the public pay for it all themselves?

          10. safari1024 says

            They do absorb the costs. States force most companies to buy worker’s compensation insurance. These laws are generally strictly enforced and non compliance is punished by severe fines, heavy lawsuits, and even criminal charges in some cases. Laws vary by state, but most states require this for any company that isn’t a sole proprietorship. A few states will allow very small companies(two or three employees) to avoid buying worker’s comp, but only for non hazardous type jobs. So, hopefully that answers your question.

        3. niknar says

          A portion of which is known as pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

    2. Fred says

      All the rules & regulations enacted by the EPA during the Obama Administration can be easily taken care of all the new head has to do is declare all of them revokes the EPA enacted them they can also revoke them .

      1. Mathew Molk says

        I agree,,,but the bitch of it all is how in the hell did the head of the EPA get so powerful in the first place? he makes a BS Regulation and a bunch of guys get permanently layed off from the First Energy Power Plant at E 72 and the Shoreway and then tear the plant down (This it not hypothetical, There is now a large open space where the CEI Lake Road plant which was making electricity with Ohio Coal at this time last year.) How can a clown that nobody voted for shut down our coal mines, or keep a pipline from being built?

        I got a better idea then eliminating EPA regulations,,,How ’bout getting rid of the EPA altogether? And loose OSHA too.

        In the construction Industry OSHA has hurt many more people then they ever saved. I have personal knoledge of a carpenter that was decapitated by the backwards controls on a scissor lift and another guy that got hung and broke his neck with a “safety” lanyard . There are many other examples too This is to say nothing of the lost productivity and increased cost to the public for the work done under the gestapo government safety men.

        I’m 70 years old and have been in the trades all my life even working part time when I was a Cleveland cop and I do not know one single (or married even) guy that ever thought the stupid OSHA and EPA rules are anything but dangerous pains in the ass Every time the injury or death is caused by an OSHA mandate they rule it a “freak Accident” too so they never get the credit for the mishap.

        Risk to gain is way against those 2 agencies causing the loss of literal MILLIONS of good jobs in our country. – Inhaling dust MAY kill you in 40 or more years, but having no job and starving to death will get you in 3 weeks or less. We can take care of ourselves without a nanny state screwing up our lives. OSHA and the EPA both need to go.

        1. Retired says

          It’s called Job security , keep coming up with new Ideas .They are Just like the IRS with the complicated forms ,change things and keep your job .

        2. dpg01 says

          A good rule of thumb. If the government is involved, be very skeptical.

          1. Gene Moser says

            Better stay off the highways, airplanes, and trains. Avoid the police and fire department, and don’t thank a service member.

          2. dpg01 says

            Your definition of “government” is a bit different than mine. To be more specific , I should have used “legislators”. When I think of government screwing things up, none of the services you mentioned come to mind at all, ever.

          3. Gene Moser says

            Well, as both an army officer and a public school teacher my professional career I was a government employee and the government is involved with both of these professions, as well as highways, airports, train safety, police, fire and the military. And our governments are composed of three branches, not just the legislature. Let me remind you the government landed us on the Moon and keeps National Parks open for our enjoyment and education.

          4. dpg01 says

            I will thank for your service. As for the education system, not so much. Americas K-12 is a failure by any
            Measure and our higher learning institutions have become anti-American idoctrination centers whose priority seems to be pumping out useful idiot , snowflake leftists. I just lived through the worst, most corrupt administration in my 64 years. So my original comment stands. If the government is involved it will be broken.

          5. Gene Moser says

            Oh – do substantiate. You may write what you want, but prove it. In what way was the Obama administration corrupt, except for your eyes? Look at the facts. And your original comment stands as incorrect. Maybe you never served and don’t know about respect to the flag, but I just watched on multiple sites, Trump laughing and joking when “Retreat” sounded. Bear in mind that Trump attended military prep school for five years and I’m sure he heard “Retreat” every day of those five years – I just exchanged e-mails with a former super of that school – retired army colonel, infantry. BTW, kid, I’ve lived through more administrations than you have.

          6. dpg01 says

            Kid? So you think because you are older you are smarter? That says a lot about who I am posting with. As for the flag, my father was 20+ year Air Force. My complete respect for our country and the flag are something you know 0 about. As it seems you are quite supportive of what was the most corrupt, anti-American administration in history, I am done communicating with you. I cannot respect anyone who attempts to defend what is indefensible.

          7. Gene Moser says

            Nothing about who is smarter. Perhaps, probably, more experienced. So you are an AF brat. Fine. That makes us brothers. So did you follow in his footsteps or fail to stand “Retreat” one last time? My time in service was four years JROTC, four years ROTC, 27 years commissioned service. You want to dispute respect country and flag? Again, I seem to have a straight flush. Show your pair of deuces. Show me Obama was corrupt. Show me he was anti-American. Put up or shut up.

          8. Retired says

            You did 27 years in the service and support a democrat like Obama is kind of hard to believe ??? Every time a democrat was in power the first thing they did was attack defense spending and that includes Democrats in Congress .

          9. Gene Moser says

            Sorry – but true. Thank my late wife. I was about ready after 20. Now, sit down. Defense spending is far too much. Look at our spending and compare it to the next 20 nations. Look at what happened before BRAC – Camp Swampy is about to be closed and every cheap establishment for 50 miles cried “foul.” Before that they ripped off the young troops in every possible ways – if you are retired military – you know what I mean. I hate to see flags furled – but a choice – increase taxes or decrease the military. More than 50% of our federal disposable income goes to the DoD. Yes – I draw retirement pay, I shop at the commissary, I get my meds from the base pharmacy, I buy at the BX (local PX closed), I draw my 60% disability from the Va (and think I should get more – inhaling cordite smoke, don’t cha know? ) but do we really need what we have? Could we just increase the reserves and decrease the regulars -like the Constitution set out?

          10. Retired says

            That we spend more than other nations is a given and the US does more than the rest of the world to keep the world alive is also a given . I don’t know when you got out , but since the 80s the reserves was restructured and depended on more than before that . I know guys called to active and came home and their jobs were gone and could not find equal paying jobs . Under Obama we got the shaft on SS and retirement pay increases which went to medical pay , but he made sure that the Government Employees got raises . Under Tricare I have had for Meds denied that I have used for years and now just got another letter to switch meds . It is getting like the HMOs since the ACA took effect . Dr. are constantly getting letters as to how to treat us instead of the Dr. treating based on our needs . The Computer is smarter than the Dr. that knows us is what they are saying . What happened to, you serve and we will take care of you ????

          11. Gene Moser says

            I retired in 1992, IIRC. Anybody who was called to active duty had to have a similar job offered upon honorable discharge. I had to fight that once. Tricare and meds – well, you may have to blame my late wife as she was in the organization that began to generate how to help patients. She later thought it was not done as best it could be done. OTOH, she had fantastic care and might be alive today if she had listened to doctors. This was in AF & N hospitals. Quite frankly, I’d rather be seen by military doctors for the most part – but then I’m surrounded by bases. I hear your pain, but one thing I learned from her is that medicine is not easy to understand. I told her I could take care of a sucking chest wound, but the rest was up to her. Medicine advances and doctors need to know about that. When was the last time you saw a guy get a shot of whiskey before the scalpel and bone saw took over?

          12. Retired says

            I guess should have been more clear on job was gone so was the business : Never had med problems before the ACA came about and went to more mail order meds . By the sound of things you lost her way before the ACA which is sad to hear , hope she did not have to suffer . Only saw the Whiskey thing in westerns . Have you heard anything as to retire increase this year ?

          13. Gene Moser says

            I happen to live in a military rich area. I did have one time when my wife and I went to an affair at least 200 miles from any military medical facility and I realized I’d left EVERYTHING behind. I went to a local drug store,showed the pharmacist my ID, they contacted the installation that had my prescriptions, and in two hours I had my meds – $3.00 co-pay for each one. Mail order meds is something I do not know about. I drive to the pharmacy. Yes, my wife died before the ACA, but I can not blame her. She knew too much about medicine and argued too strongly with doctors… I do think she would support it. One thing I have noted, no disrespect meant, but people who do not support President Obama, do not look at the ACA. It was taken, lock, stock, and barrel from Mass and the Republican congressional leadership fought it because of Obama. Mass still uses it. If you were career – and I think you were, you need to remember that there are times you need to play nice with the supply sergeant or the mess sergeant.

          14. Retired says

            Under Tricare if you use the Military pharmacy you do not need to use mail order . Just like if you live close to a base you are required to go there . Under Tricare we had Walgreens Drugstores which are dime a dozen in our area and someone smart dropped them so we had a limited supply of drug stores and most were closed vin the evening while Walgreens was a 24 HR. store . that was real progress giving the contract to CVS which was not in our neck of the woods .

          15. anibanib says

            SAME OLD TUNE………….That we spend more than other nations is a given and the US does more than the rest of the world to keep the world alive is also a given………….in big numbers the USA does give more……..like the 22% to the UN and all their agencies, but in numbers per capita……..US giving is tiny………

            The USA is indeed the main contributor, around 22%. Then comes Germany (14.5%), France (11%) and UK (10.5%).
            The civil budget for 2017 is € 234.4 million.
            The military budget for 2017 is € 1.29 billion.
            The 2017 ceiling for the NSIP is €655 million.
            Total cost is 2179 Bn euro, roughly the same in dollars, the USAs share is 22%…..480 mn dollar, which is $1.48 per capita

            Germany 14.5%……..316 mn dollar, which is $3.95per capita

            Sweden contributes, $82 mn, $9 per capita

            Now when we look at another kind of funding, the UNHCR,where the USA is always saying they contribute most…..well they do in dollars, $181 mn…… but only 58 cents per capita, whereas Sweden contributes, $82 mn, $9 per capita………so America either cough up or shut up

          16. anibanib says

            The US government run so many branches in the USA, wow!!!!!!!!!!sounds almost like a socialistic state to me…………like EastGermany used to be

        3. anibanib says

          The truth of the matter is, that you guys in America have a source of energy that you dont use………it is one of the renewable energy sources…….that every American sees every day but never realised what it could be used for……….and from this source the USA could easily produce 75% of their energy needs

        4. anibanib says

          What a conceited little piece of chit you are

      2. pineapple says

        The Paris accords:

        Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman will always have Paris.
        United States taxpayers and energy consumers may not. President Trump
        announced last week the U.S. will withdraw from the Paris climate
        agreement and “cease all implementation” of the accord.

        Pulling us out of this bad deal is good news. As it was negotiated
        under the prior administration, this agreement imposed a goal of
        reducing U.S. carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent over a decade. The
        so-called “Obama pledge” accompanied a host of related federal
        regulations that would have damaged the economy, killed jobs, and driven
        up energy prices for families across the country.

        Sticking with the
        deal could have cost 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025, according to a
        National Economic Research Associates study. And the effects would be
        widespread, including a loss of 440,000 manufacturing jobs, according to
        NERA’s numbers. Meanwhile, according to proponents’ own data, the agreement would have no discernible effect on global temperatures.

        And the longer the agreement ran, the worse it would get, according
        to NERA’s data. By 2040, production (and thus employment) would be
        decimated in a host of industries, including a 38 percent cut in iron
        and steel, 31 percent in natural gas, and 86 percent for coal. At that
        point, the total economic cost to the U.S. would approach $3 trillion in
        lost gross domestic product and 6.5 million industrial jobs.

        Speaking last week, Trump correctly noted that the damage is not
        spread evenly across the globe, noting that China and India can proceed
        with adding coal-fired capacity well into the future. “The agreement
        doesn’t eliminate coal jobs, it just transfers those jobs out of America
        and the United States and ships them to foreign countries,” he noted.

        Other good news from last week is stopping future U.S. payments to
        the Green Climate Fund, part of what Trump rightly described as “a
        massive redistribution of United States wealth to other countries.” The
        federal government has already sent $1 billion of U.S. taxes to prop up
        energy projects in foreign countries.

        Taxpayers and ratepayers have seen firsthand how green energy
        subsidies fail to deliver on promises of long-term job creation and
        energy affordability — it makes little sense to repeat these mistakes
        abroad. The Green Climate Fund is essentially an international version
        of Solyndra, the solar panel manufacturer that took $535 million in taxpayer money before going belly-up.

        Exiting the agreement means the U.S. can lead with strength in
        promoting energy and environmental policies, protecting U.S. jobs and
        easing the costly regulatory burden across the country. Now the Trump
        administration can push ahead with a plan that conserves the environment
        while protecting economic competitiveness and promoting affordability
        and reliability. He should keep these priorities in mind as he engages
        in future negotiations with international stakeholders on energy and
        environment policies.

        Christine Harbin (@ChrissyHarbin)
        is a contributor to the Washington Examiner’s Beltway Confidential
        blog. She is vice president of external affairs for Americans for
        Prosperity.

        If you would like to write an op-ed for the Washington Examiner, please read our guidelines on submissions here.

        1. marshmil1789 says

          Fred, Matthew and pineapple there’s a simple solution to many of the problems you folks posted. People need to STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS. Liberals are bureaucrats. They worship bureaucracy which is known for making regulations and rules that slow down and halt progress. Look back over who has been elected to positions that influence the outcomes of the boondoggles you cite. The greatest Constitutionally illegal act that has ever taken place in this great nation was the illegal administering of the Presidential Oath to a Constitutionally illegal foreign-born student who has never demonstrated leadership in anything and who was denied the privilege to practice law because he lied on his application papers for obtaining a law license. When we have “useful idiots” voting we have a major problem because they vote for candidates who promise them the most trinkets every month in return for votes. They are the uninformed gimme, gimme, gimme I got my rights crowd. Barack Obama has amateur ideas about everything and is an expert at nothing but following RULES FOR RADICALS trying to sink the ship of state. Democrats and RINOs have NO interest whatever in the good of the nation for We the People.

          1. Retired says

            One better yet , get rid of the UN and its OWO/NWO .

          2. Rodney Steward says

            B-I-N-G-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          3. marshmil1789 says

            Yes Retired, add those anti-American, useless organizations to the list of things to get rid of–ASAP!

          4. dpg01 says

            A very eloquent post indeed.

        2. anibanib says

          “” and driven
          up energy prices for families across the country.””……….that is your assumption……….however, here in Scandinavia we use a mix of Hydro, nuclear and renewables……….(not wind or solar)..but another kind of renewables…….household trash……….its almost free, all it needs is transportation to the power plants, just like coal gas and oil………..and our energy prices at source are extremely low………2.9 cents per kwh of electricity

      3. Dan Han says

        Trump is a crook

        1. marshmil1789 says

          To prove that, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
          We are waiting on your list of facts.

        2. zookeeper216 says

          We know who the crook is and she didn’t get elected..lol.

    3. marshmil1789 says

      The establishment Democrats and RINOS have only their own interests going. They have NO interest whatever in We the People, the Constitution, the nation or anything to do with it. That is why they should all be booted out of the Congress as soon as possible.

      1. Dan Han says

        Trump is a con man and he suckered you

        1. marshmil1789 says

          Says the atheist progressive. You are all alike. You’re ticked off that Her Imperial Highness the Empress Hillary lost and RULES FOR RADICALS has met its roadblock with a very successful businessman now at the nation’s helm. We the People are cleaning up the train wreck swamp created by the foreign born African non-American student who was illegally placed in the Executive Mansion which became the White Mosque complete with Crescent Office and staffed with Muslims. You lost! Get over it. Grow up!

    4. DAlnB41 says

      YEP – – and those “despicable Democrats” and “some despicable republicans” are costing this country billions of dollars in wages they are drawing while not doing their job, by spending tax payers money on unnecessary “personal projects” (not having a ting to do with fixing the nations problems), standing in front of TV cameras complaining but offering no suggestions on helping fix the mess Trump inherited, while traveling around the world only to make a speech about being there (never showing any needed accomplishments (as did- Hillary Clinton), Schumer’s time spent on repeated TV appearances with his (Tax Payers funded) head bobbers standing behind him as he complains, snivels and offers no suggestions on how to improve the mess Obama left from his destructive years in office!

    5. Dan Han says

      Trump is a POS

      1. marshmil1789 says

        In your opinion and you are outvoted by We the People.

        1. mac12sam12 says

          Euro trash, President Trump’s a capitalist, not a national socialist. Try again.

    6. larry harvey says

      Trump is determined to reverse progress on equality and minority rights. He wants GLBT people to have second class citizenship. He is a bigot, homophobe and racist.

    7. chucky001 says

      The Trump haters are not despicable. They are patriots. And what arew you speaking of when you talk about helping the taxpayer? Gutting consumer protections? Slashing social security? Tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the middle class?

      1. zookeeper216 says

        It’s hard for me to fathom where you people get your info. You must read the articles under the headlines or better yet, watch different news stations or web sites.

    8. tCotUS says

      Trump besides saving Thousands of jobs & cheap energy he must now overhaul the EPA…Here in America we no longer have large trucks that run as they should. …EPA has seen to that…Ask a Trucking Co. about their new KW’s, & PeterB’s as to how they run…The costs of maintenance has doubled /tripled & the expense passed on to the consumer.. ….The EPA Used by Globalists with the help of Lap Dogs Obama/Clintons…

    9. niknar says

      Like pollute the air, poison our water, slice off mountaintops, send still more people to the hospital & early deaths, slow down our conversion to the renewable energy sources of the future & make us less economically competitive? Yeah, MAGA!

  6. DouglasDauntless says

    Great for our President the people President, President Trump Go, Go get them all

  7. river says

    Nothing tickles me more than watching the climate hoax dwindle piece by piece… .stupid liberals honestly think that .40/1000 of %1 is gonna burn up the earth.. .and because Al Gore says so.. LOL

  8. river says

    It’s gotta be obvious that GotabeTarded is just an annoying garden slug..

  9. zookeeper216 says

    Ohio lost seven coal fired plants. What a waste.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      I saw them Demo 2 of them. Thank God for Perry Nuclear’s muscle and the switch to LEDs by a lot of places or we would be sitting in the dark. – If the global dose actually warm one of these summers and all the air conditioners go full blast,,,,,Well Thank God I have a couple of generators and a couple hundred gallons of diesel fuel.

      1. zookeeper216 says

        The problem with LEDs is they give people a headache. They’re supposed to work on that.

        1. WOA says

          The only people that get a headache from LEDs are power company executives and Incandescent light bulb manufacturers.

  10. AKLady says

    Half truths are no different than lies. The final Carbon Pollution Standards applied only to new, modified, and reconstructed power plants. The carbon pollution is acidifying the oceans. The air pollution is crippling and killing humans. The plan will required individual states to meet specific standards with respect to reduction of carbon dioxide emissions. Under the Plan, states were free to reduce emissions by various means.
    .
    The right-wing’s children and grandchildren will know who caused their illnesses. . Since the plan was established in 2014, there have been global efforts made to decrease toxic particulate matter emissions by all developed nations.
    .
    Trump has simply proven, yet again, that his America cannot be trusted.

    1. river says

      Carbon is NOT pollution and it does NOT cause acidification of the oceans. AKTundraTard taking a bath in a Fairbanks creek causes acidification of the planet… Somebody put that dog back on her chain.

      1. Joseph Carrilho says

        AKWhore is an aggravating troll – a LIAR.

        1. river says

          What is she doing on Conservative sites? ..She’s only here to aggravate and annoy conservative bloggers.

  11. ourzoo10 says

    President Trump is using the EOs as they were intended…..send a memo to a department and do an audit of sorts….NOT Make LAW like Hussein, the wanna be tyrant did.

  12. Michael Dennewitz says

    I’m sick of hearing everyone refer to that asswipe as “president oslobba!” That halfbred bastard NEVER WAS, and never would make a wart on anyone’s ass!!

  13. Michael Dennewitz says

    I’m sick of hearing everyone refer to that

    asswipe as “president oslobba!” That halfbred bastard NEVER WAS, and never would amount to a wart on a hog’s ass!!

  14. VirgoVince says

    EVERY BIT OF ovomit’s leftover ni666ersh*t
    NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED ALONG WITH him!!
    HOW LONG TIL he’s INDICTED AND HANGED??

    1. Joseph Carrilho says

      I agree BUT, your slur only feeds the fire of “Divide & Conquer”……..

      1. Mathew Molk says

        Not every black person is a nigger. In fact most are not and are just working American that happen to be black. – I welcome a divide between all working Americans and the ret of the country. We outnumber them 30:1 or better anyway. Just the low life whites and blacks are the ones that get all the publicity. Nobody wants to hear about a black guy that goes to work every day and never committed a crime in his life.,,,and that is the majority of all black Americans.

        It’s the white people that never worked with Americans that happen to be Black that make the most noise. Those of us that have worked together with Americans that are negros know better then to listen to them, though.

        1. VirgoVince says

          THANK YOU, Mathew…and Joseph!!
          Many times, on other threads, I have posted this:
          ‘NOT ALL blacks are ni666ers and NOT ALL ni666ers are black!’
          LEARN THE DIFFERENCE AND ACT ACCORDINGLY!
          It’s hard for me to understand why MOST people don’t know this!

  15. Eric Hartman says

    Coal is dead and it’s not from regulation. tRump is lying to garnish votes. Surprise.

    1. Joseph Carrilho says

      Ignorant troll, child, or MORON……

      1. Eric Hartman says

        You speaking about tRump?

    2. Greg Hernandez says

      Your brain is dead. The demorats are the liars. That is why the governor of WVA ( A great coal mining state ) is now a Republican and why WVA and PA are seeing a great surge in their economies from their coal industry. Eric Hartman , Eric Hartman….( Sounds like the TV show )
      time to wake up now Eric.

      1. Eric Hartman says

        Good luck with all that. Oh yeah that was my distant cousin Mary.

    3. Mathew Molk says

      You obviously don’t know anybody from PA, West By God, or Southern Ohio. The UMW is taking apprentices again for the first time in 8 years and the journeymen are going to have a great Christmas for the first time in 9 years.

      You also obviously don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.

      1. Eric Hartman says

        Good luck with that.

  16. Jim says

    You can’t believe everything you read the report by the EPA mite be a lie, obviously the regulations are costing companies & executives money so who cares about environmental & intern public health we’ll just keep the status quo until a smarter generation ends this. On the other hand maybe the EPA was right and gutting the regulations & republicans won’t cause a lot more harm, I’m open minded about this unlike many.

    1. susmart3 says

      We are in a era of everybody wants to yell and nobody wants to listen. So how do you survive being open minded on the internet? That is far riskier than having an unchanging opinion.

      1. Jim says

        Easy! Its just my opinion, some agree some don’t.

        1. susmart3 says

          Then I admire you for that! 😀

        2. WOA says

          Well, you know what they say about opinions….

          1. Jim says

            Everyone has one & I’m right?

      2. Joseph Carrilho says

        Ignorant fuuk…..

      3. Joseph Carrilho says

        It’s called discernment, stooge.

        1. susmart3 says

          ” Discernment.” (in Christian contexts) perception in the absence of judgment with a view to obtaining spiritual direction and understanding: without providing for a time of healing and discernment, there will be no hope of living through this present moment without a shattering of our common life.”

          Which, apparently, Jim has and you don’t. 😀

  17. Herbert W. Love, Jr. says

    Obama did so many things to negatively affect US. It’s a wonder the Media did not “pick-up” and show his actions to the people like they do for President Trump. All I can say is, “Biased Liberal Media” has been supporting Democrats & not the citizens of our country. Fake News has had it’s day!

  18. Ronnie Cowlishaw says

    It is great to be rid of the puppet and have a real American running the country for an excellent change!

  19. ray2hill says

    What is killing coal is technology. The army doesn’t buy mules anymore because of Jeeps.

    1. Joseph Carrilho says

      “It has become appallingly apparent that man’s technology
      has far surpassed his humanity”….. Albert Einstein

      Keep taking pharmaceutical POISON pills with lots of fluoridated water, dummy.

    2. Greg Hernandez says

      And the army doesn’t use jeeps , it uses Humvees. Not the same. The Coal industry was almost killed by demorats and ozero was trying hard to destroy it. But , the coal that President Trump spoke about is not soft Bituminous coal , it is hard , hot burning and much cleaner anthracite which is MUCH more efficient and because of modern technology is a much more efficient source of energy than heat generating wild life destroying solar displays , bird killing and ugly wind farms that cannot function in low wind and high wind situations and sit there doing nothing but looking stupid….Sort of like the fools who put them up..
      Green energy cannot function without huge subsidies ( A waste of taxpayer dollars going to the backers of this crap who take the money and go bankrupt ) Or like Tesla motors , using technology discovered at the end of the nineteenth century ( With about the same results as to battery capability ) and still not making electric cars anything close to being a force in the industry.
      Green….. Yeah right …Green BS the color of diarrhea.

    3. WOA says

      The A$$ is here to BRAY again!!!

  20. Joseph Carrilho says

    If it weren’t for the LYING, narcissistic, parasites in media, we wouldn’t have so damn many problems.
    If we had been told the truth, we would have pulled the weeds before they got so entrenched.

  21. susmart3 says

    By all means, lets remove regulations that make our air cleaner, so that an outmoded industry that can’t compete in the marketplace can continue on with the aid of government subsidies and protections. (Despite the fact that the coal industry CEO stated himself it is a dead industry.) Subsidies for corporations at taxpayer expense: the American way!

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Hey. want to help even more. What’s you address? I will come over and cut and cap your gas line and pull your electric meter and take down your service lateral.

      See gang, Just like I thought. – All mouth, and just like goofy gore everybody turn out their light and get a bicycle,,,,,Except them.

      1. susmart3 says

        Good to know you’re a person who likes to help!

  22. W. Coyote says

    This so-called article leaves out some basic facts- There is no “war on coal”. Coal has been in decline for many years, mainly due to cheaper, cleaner natural gas. Almost all the coal jobs will not return. Once again, Trump will cede world leadership in renewable energy to China.

    1. Mathew Molk says

      They can have it….. A few boondoggles like Solendra and their whole country will go tits up.

      1. W. Coyote says

        Matthew- Good morning and thank you for your reply. I don’t think you can generalize from the Solyndra example. They invested heavily in a new way to produce photo electric cells. Then the price for silicon (used in traditional photo electric technology) dropped by 89%. Solyndra couldn’t compete.
        Meanwhile China has the foresight to do long term planning. They are investing about $360 billion into renewable energy in order to be the dominant player worldwide. It is a fast growing industry with many new jobs- unlike coal. I truly feel sorry for the people in coal country, but most of their jobs have been taken over by machines and coal is now costlier than natural gas.

  23. Michael Shoemaker says

    Now what will be done about the shutdown of the only lead smelting operation in the United States? BHO shut that down and ended virgin lead production which had been in business since 1986!
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/23/the-last-lead-smelter-in-the-us-closes-because-the-hippies-won/#394eb147642b

  24. kassa1 says

    The illegitimate Brock Obama set in the White House with his puppet masters hand up his butt, for one purpose, and that was to destroy America and its culture. He was put there for every breath he took in every move he made was geared toward the distruction of this country,and also created an immoral $12 trillion in additional new taxes on the people and the children of the future which verse in slaves them with that, while exempting their selves from these taxes. America is over tax for one reason and that’s to destroy the middle class!

  25. tCotUS says

    Everything Obozo did was to kill jobs, send them overseas, or move them just across the border. Unfortunately, we have to many Hommers here in America to care.

  26. silver fox says

    go trump real American president

  27. nocbsfan says

    Yeah President Trump. Jobs are now available, people making money and economy goes up. Idiotic democrats will now blame global warming on the coal industry. So democrats now global warming will make more money by attracting tourist to the warm beaches of Alaska.

  28. Joann Pasco says

    I have not heard or read how many coal mines have opened. Does anyone have a drastic!??

  29. Joann Pasco says

    Misspelling in previous text! Does any one know how many coal mines have opened? I have not heard nor read any stastics!

    1. Mathew Molk says

      Far as I know almost all the mines are producing and we are exporting lots of coal.

      Like Zookeeper said, we have a lot of coal fired power plants that are not here any more. – It was really stupid to tear them down,,,,but that did give us the ability to sell a lot of our coal and bring in forign cash, which we also desperately need.

  30. Michael Dennewitz says

    WOOT – WOOT ! YOU GO PRESIDENT TRUMP!! 😁🤗😅

    1. Ben Totuous says

      He us going, alright. To prison until he rots.