Victory at Last: House Passes Obamacare Replacement Bill

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Critics have been all-too-eager to note that the healthcare bill Republicans narrowly passed on Thursday is not a true, FULL replacement of Obamacare, but for anyone who thought that the GOP was destined to really screw the pooch on this one, no petty remarks from the peanut gallery can spoil the moment. Republicans finally managed to get together and get something done for the good of the American people, and it now feels like the Trump Train is back on the tracks.

But while Thursday’s triumph gives Republicans the right to take a breather over the weekend and celebrate, the work is far from over. The bill – in a much-changed form, no doubt – still has to pass the Senate before it arrives on President Trump’s desk. That won’t be an easy task, because the GOP has much less room for error in the upper chamber where they only hold a razor-thin majority.

In the meantime, Republicans can make things easier on themselves by returning to the most important message they can deliver: Obamacare is running out of gas. With or without a new healthcare law, the much-ballyhooed Affordable Care Act is toast. This isn’t something that will happen in the future; it’s something that is already happening in many areas of the country. There are cities where every single health insurance company has pulled out of the marketplace, leaving people without any decent options. And in many, many places, only a single insurance company remains, reducing the “free market” to little more than a monopoly. THIS is the great healthcare system that we can’t afford to scrap?

Democrats have been allowed to control the healthcare narrative for far too long, and they have been lying through their teeth. Republicans need to be willing to step up to the microphone and call them the liars that they are. They need to tell the American people the truth about Obamacare. Not just that it’s failing, but that it was in fact a failure from Day One. A failure because it was not a “healthcare” law at all; it was a thinly-disguised expansion of the welfare state.

Nothing Republicans can pass will erase all of the damage done by Obamacare; once a country gets accustomed to an entitlement, it is not easy to strip it away. And it will take more than a single year or a single bill to move beyond this bloated catastrophe.

But it’s a start. It’s a sign that, after eight long years, America is returning to its roots as the home of individuality, pride, and free-market values.

It won’t be long before we have another reason to bitch about the Washington GOP establishment.

Today, though, we raise our glass. Good job, guys. You actually came through.

 

313 Comments
  1. Richard Bagenstose says

    come on get a life , this is like celebrating winning a base ball game in the 3rd inning , considering they say it’s dead on arivel in the senate

  2. Francisco Machado says

    The House has passed government run health care by another name. If they wanted to assume the blame for the bankrupt disaster passed by the Democrats, they’re well on the way to succeeding. The flaming “Repeal!” rhetoric that got them House, Senate, Presidency, most of the states – they are now claiming that repeal is “too unpopular” – It is with the Democrats who won’t vote for them anyway, and not doing it loses the votes of the Democrats who did vote for them in the last election. After the Omnibus Spending bill we got after the 2014 election – despite campaign promises – I’m not at all surprised. Most of them are Progressives (as are all the Democrats); most of them are Big Government Utopians. “Repeal” was a successful campaign slogan – Because it was what the people wanted!

  3. silverbackV says

    I don’t know that it is a victory. Time will tell. What I see is a rotting albatross being lifted off obamas and the demonrats necks and being put onto Trump and the republicans necks. Remember, these are the republicans that have never failed at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The demonrats are worse, they do dumb and harmful things on purpose and blame the republicans.

    1. Rubendlct says

      Well, isn’t being a Returdican a nice feeling! You are cap;able of cutting off your own thrats just to see the other party lose some. The lloss of heralthcare does not affect Trumy, Pauli Ryan or chicken lips McConnell, but it will sure affect yours, mr. Returdican…Ever looked at it that w ay? I really do not care because it won’t affect me either, so let it roll, and when you feel that shaft deep up in your hoodoo come back and tell the public how it really feels and who is the dumbass…:=)

      1. Ken Mayton says

        Easy to tell…demoturd liberals is correct answer !

      2. Retired says

        The ACA was a welfare program just like the Tax credits that only certain people could use. Then there is corporate welfare as well .

      3. fishinjunki says

        MORON, your boyfriend must have hurt your feelings, SNOWFLAKE.

  4. Murphmeister says

    Let’s get something straight. There are two rooms in the sausage factory. There is the first grind and then the fine grind where they add the spices. Then it goes to the casing room, the White House. Until the sausage is cased, there ain’t no sausage.

    1. Raven Vaughan says

      Best comment in the comment section roflmao. Wish I could up-vote you 100 times

  5. janis says

    If insurance companies believe that Trump will not fund Obama Care, of course they are not going to sign on people that cannot pay for the insurance.
    “There are cities where every single health insurance company has pulled out of the marketplace, leaving people without any decent options. And in many, many places, only a single insurance company remains, reducing the “free market” to little more than a monopoly. THIS is the great healthcare system that we can’t afford to scrap?’ Trump caused this to happen. People will not have health care, and people who don’t have health care, don’t have a doc, and they end up in hospitals and nursing homes that cost a lot more than insurance.

    1. gotabgood says

      I think your post is a direct result of alternative facts..

      1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

        I think your post are as ignorant as you. Low energy, liberal, racist and pathetic!
        Victim lol
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b902c954d05b9ca92722e64e94eadd9f133a5f28dc0cb4e55152c036fd6ff51a.jpg

        1. gotabgood says

          I am surprised you know how to write anything.. all you do is post some ignorant post full of lies…
          When you do write, I am surprised you don’t use your masters words more often… like bigly, and sad… I am the best… I am the greatest…

    2. Ken Mayton says

      Trump caused this you idiot. It’s been failing before he ran. Watch some real news that tells facts not fiction may help you with your mental problems

  6. Mrov says

    don,t bend over Trump got ya.

        1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

          You been Con by the liberal Elitist and the Fake news!
          LMYASSOFF HA HA HA

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7018fcae79352506d8f65564a103895240a2b6eb91f86f6c0b8614a605f0c351.jpg

          1. gotabgood says

            You are a dinosaur…. catch up to 2017 or cash it in, your through….
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-Yrr2FINU

          2. fishinjunki says

            Trump only said that to shut up MORONS like you.

          3. mac12sam12 says

            Why did obama have two fake SS cards? Stamped born in Kenya.

          4. gotabgood says

            Talk to your leader

        2. Retired says

          Your true colors are showing, are you related to Obama ???

        3. CF says

          Yea, Magna cum laude in “racial agitation thru community organizing”!!!

        4. fishinjunki says

          I seriously doubt that Osama graduated anything, beyond racism, hatred, and Islime ideology. That was harvard grade school in Kenya.

        5. mac12sam12 says

          Obama didn’t graduate magna cum laude, but nice try. Obama admitted that he was a C student his whole life which means that Affirmative Action got his skank ass into Harvard. He is stupid.

          1. gotabgood says

            coming from someone who voted for Trump and believes Trump..
            Doesn’t say much for you

      1. Rubendlct says

        Yes, Trump is the dumbest president we ever had! You have that correct, even when your beer bottle might appear to be half empty when it is only half full!

        1. Ken Mayton says

          Squirm liberal squirm. Jealousy will get you nowhere except more BS from obuma like policies that never work. If he’s so dumb why is it that he’s done more good for country than Obuma did in 8 years ? Obuma had not one policy to create jobs,help foriegn relations ( except Muslim or terriost efforts). So what lies are you belonging to ?

        2. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

          Liberal fool its Obama whos the Dumbest President eva you got that right…

          PRESIDENT TRUMP is cleaning up his liberal tragic mess..

          Now lay off Dat Democrack! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7018fcae79352506d8f65564a103895240a2b6eb91f86f6c0b8614a605f0c351.jpg

          1. Retired says

            And lots of fake news .

          2. Retired says

            You should send one of those hats to Gotabgood , he would fit right in with the rest of the Pussy Hat society .

          3. CF says

            Hahahaha!?

        3. Retired says

          You are getting Obama mixed up with Trump . Remember Obama made Carter look good .

        4. fishinjunki says

          MORON

          1. ABO says

            Excellent response. Concise and inarguably accurate.

        5. homer1057 says

          NO One is ever happy w/what we have are they! Maybe instead of mocking the President, because I do believe he has done a lot more than the foreigner from Kenya, and professing Muslim, maybe getting behind the man would help instead of hinder! I don’t see you running for Office, or trying to do anything, how smart are you? YOU comment has about as much merit as a bowl of week old oatmeal!

        6. Michael Dennewitz says

          Another shitwad blocked!

        7. ernldo says

          That was the dumbest post I’ve read today, you seem to have gotten quite far on your lonely brain cell and that half a beer….

      2. CF says

        Hahahaha! Love those ears!!!

    1. Retired says

      No that was the Bath house king that liked to stick it in .

      1. ernldo says

        He was a peterpuffer as well….

  7. mrpoohead says

    Yes, it will be known as ObamacareLite and the new meaning for “repeal” is move goalposts six inches and not revoke, rescind, cancel, reverse, abrogate, annul, nullify, declare null and void, make void, void, invalidate, render invalid, quash, abolish, set aside, countermand, retract, withdraw, overrule, override. Why bother? Funny as!

    No repeal, no wall, no ban of Muslims, no mass deportations. FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

      1. Retired says

        Hillary was her own victim and no one else .

        1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

          Crooked lying Hillary lost because she was incompetent, low energy, disgraceful, a Liberal atheist witch, low life, racist against Real America!

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b902c954d05b9ca92722e64e94eadd9f133a5f28dc0cb4e55152c036fd6ff51a.jpg

        2. ernldo says

          We were almost victims…

    1. fishinjunki says

      YOU are a perfect example of why children SHOULD be beaten, when they misbehave. You must be the product of adoptive gay parents.

      1. mrpoohead says

        ………..as opposed to your ancestral lineage being nothing but siblings having off-spring together? Think I’d be happy with the fairies thanks!

    2. homer1057 says

      NO ILLEGALS, NO Muslims, a southern wall, and deportations for all not legal. NO Sharia law, and NOTHING Islam, “STUPID” Lastly NO comment by YOU!

      1. mrpoohead says

        Muslims yes, Sharia no (Sharia is however no different to Biblical – both obnoxious), no wall, deportations or repeal. Pssst; President doesn’t have the power – duh!

      1. Retired says

        You forget a lot of corporations also support Democrats just like many rich in Business – Hollywood – Schumer – Pelosi – Feinstein – Soros -Warren , just to name a few . then there are the Wall street boys who pay Millions to listen to Clinton .

          1. Retired says

            You think Obama and Clinton did not do the same thing. He fined the banks while the Criminals that ran them got millions in raises and bonus . Are you that brain dead ??? Then there was GM [ Obama Motors] now importing more models into the US . Chrysler the same thing . Then there was his failure solar co. Obama gave more Corporate welfare just like bill Clinton so they could go off shore . You are just bitter Trump is not Black like you . Or is that you OBAMA ????

          2. gotabgood says

            He FINED them not HIRE them!!!
            You are one of the reasons I copy and paste so much. All three of our auto plants either told the public that Trump lied about the Jeep, plans were already in place for the Ford plant to shut down in Mexico and invest in different states in US.
            The failed solar… which is now over taken coal workers in the work force, it is cheaper and a whole lot cleaner.
            And I see you didn’t bring up Solyndra, but just named the whole industry.. Do you know they have a plane that runs on solar and even flies at night?? Now this is the first one, so when looking at this video think Wright Brothers first one.
            And since you had the balls to bring up Solar…. BP! Killed 11 people… destroyed wetlands.. closed beaches and businesses, killed wild life and marine life… while Solyndra cost millions… BP cost billions. Fossil fuel is just that… it should remain fossilized… buried, where the good Lord put it.. The sun shines on us daily, heats our world, gives us vitamin D, gives us light and the knowledge to turn its power into a useful, clean energy
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1dc_pW8NiQ

          3. Skippy says

            The only reason why solar and wind is so much cheaper than coal, and other form of energy is because of government subsidies. Ethanol is bad for car engines, and it uses more energy to produce it. Also in the production of ethanol it puts more pollution in the atmosphere than it reduces in automobiles.
            Bye bye drone.

          4. gotabgood says

            You got part of it right and that is more than your comrades… so job well done.

          5. Skippy says

            You guys are mindless liberal drones. You believe the lie about global warming, and use that to justify the Government does to so called protect the planet.
            The climate has been changing for millions of years without man.
            Y’all bring up that the glacier in Glacier National Park is receding, but fail to mention that it’s been receding for over 2,000 years.

          6. gotabgood says

            No no no
            If and when you read the article about Glacier National Park. I want to show you two videos, no commentary to influence you. But keep in mind a couple of things as you watch these. This is high tide. i believe high tide has been reoccurring since we have had a moon. These buildings were built on dry ground and I am sure the contractors had high tide calculated in their construction. But yet here we can see high tide, in parking lots, flooding buildings and road ways. why is this happening??????, make that 3 videos.. no commentaries on any.
            In Glacier National Park (GNP), MT some effects of global climate change are strikingly clear. Glacier recession is underway, and many glaciers have already disappeared. The retreat of these small alpine glaciers reflects changes in recent climate as glaciers respond to altered temperature and precipitation. It has been estimated that there were approximately 150 glaciers present in 1850, and most glaciers were still present in 1910 when the park was established. In 2010, we consider there to be only 25 glaciers larger than 25 acres remaining in GNP. A computer-based climate model predicts that some of the park’s largest glaciers will vanish by 2030 (Hall and Fagre, 2003). This is only one model prediction but, if true, then the park’s glaciers could disappear in the next several decades. However, glacier disappearance may occur even earlier, as many of the glaciers are retreating faster than their predicted rates.
            http://nrmsc.usgs.gov/research/glacier_retreat.htm
            From your ‘ice age’ until 1850, we had 150 glaciers and were still around for another 60 years in 1910 when the park was established. THEN from 1910 to 2010 we lost 125 glaciers!?!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7abSExQ-10

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIMrq_-JiZI

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SogJ5NHbOI

          7. Skippy says

            I have seen these videos before I don’t believe the lies that they spew. First of all the glacier at Glacier National Park has been growing and receding for over 100 years since they’ve been keeping track of it. You need to look at all the data.
            The tides have changed over the years too. Some years they get higher than normal. Now no one really knows what the tides were 3 to 400 years ago. It’s cyclical because there were some islands that was underwater 600 to 700 years ago, and now they are starting to go underwater again. They are trying to blame this on global warming. I also remember reading in the history books that there was somethings built close to the shore lines and they were destroyed by the tide. They did take in the account of the tides.
            I don’t believe in this man made global warming crap, here’s why. Back when I was in grade school you morons were pushing that we’re heading into the next ice age, and that it was caused by man. I remember this because I had to take material home to my parents. I was scared, because I hated the cold. My dad sat me down and explained it to me, and I wasn’t scared anymore. Plus we had a talk with the teacher and she said they had to tell us this. She also said she didn’t believe it either.
            The other reason why I don’t believe the global warming scientist is because they were caught falsifying their data, so who knows what else they been lying about. Let’s see it started out with man made next ice age, thin it was global warming, and now it’s man made climate change.
            I remember a couple of years ago some greenies got stuck in the ice pack and it took two ice breakers to get them unstuck. The first ice breaker got stuck itself. What I also found funny about it was they were there to see the effects of global warming on the ice cap. The ice cap grew bigger than it had been I think in 100 years if I remember correctly.
            So you can keep on believing the lies and living your fantasy would, and us real people will live in the real world and deal with the real facts.
            Stop being a mindless liberal drone, and do some real research on your own.

          8. gotabgood says

            I gave you the data on Glacier National Park….. I would like to see yours!
            And Glaciers from all over the world are disappearing ..
            MELTING GLACIERS OF THE WORLD!
            Glaciers Around The Globe Continue To Melt At High Rates
            ScienceDaily (Feb. 4, 2009) — Glaciers around the globe continue to melt at high rates. Tentative figures for the year 2007, of the World Glacier Monitoring Service at the University of Zurich, Switzerland, indicate a further loss of average ice thickness of roughly 0.67 meter water equivalent (m w.e.). Some glaciers in the European Alps lost up to 2.5 m w.e.
            http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090129090002.htm
            >
            http://www.epa.gov/climate/climatechange/kids/impacts/signs/glaciers.html
            As Glaciers Melt, Science Seeks Data on Rising Seas
            http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?pagewanted=all
            >
            As the alpine glaciers shrink they will affect the flow of Europe’s biggest rivers, impacting areas of the economy ranging from shipping to power generation.
            http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/science_technology/Melting_glaciers_store_up_trouble_.html?cid=30671470
            Recent Global Glacier Retreat Overview
            http://www.nichols.edu/departments/glacier/glacier_retreat.htm

          9. Skippy says

            The problem with you mindless liberal drones is you think this is the way it’s always been.
            Now let’s try this again. There was an ice age, what did man do to start and end the ice age? The glaciers was left over from the ice age. The glaciers have be receding for thousands of years. With periods of growing, and staying the same. That’s the glaciers from around the world. The Sahara desert was once tropical land, what did man do to change it to a desert? The Nile river use to flow by the causeway of the pyramids, what did man do to change that? The point is that the climate, the cost line, land mass, and the temperate zones has been changing long before the industrial age.
            This isn’t man made it’s just nature changing things up again. The arrogance of the liberals to think man can change the climate.
            You need to hit the library and look up information from books stop looking at this stuff on line. If you do that it will be a real eye opener for you. Most of my knowledge on this is from books and I don’t remember some of the names of them. Just go to the library and start doing your own research.
            Again these scientist were caught falsifying data a few years ago so what else have the lied about, and are still lying about?

          10. Bill says

            There is no problem at all finding data to support the theory of “global warming,” a.k.a. “climate change,” which is useful as a backup name if global warming doesn’t pan out. Historical cycles of changing atmospheric gas balances (measured from ice cores) can be found from various sources, including this example:

            http://cdiac.ornl.gov/images/air_bubbles_historical.jpg
            The above is a link found in http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/ice_core_co2.html

            Natural highest extremes of atmospheric CO2 reach about 300 ppm. The perceived problem now is that, since the 1950’s, CO2 levels have moved above 300 ppm, and after 2010 they came to exceed 400 ppm.

            Obviously, having unnaturally high CO2 in the atmosphere is… unnatural. Beyond that, the interpretation can go all kinds of ways. The “mini-ice age” of the 1800’s is sometimes attributed to one or more significant volcanic eruptions, but of course that goes against the narrative that more CO2 means a warmer planet. While the conclusions about the effects of high CO2 levels can be debated in any number of ways (making the “climate change” summation a necessary alternate to the “global warming” claim), changes in almost anything, whether CO2, methane, the ozone layer, or whatever, are too useful a political football to be ignored. Things like this are a wonderful opportunity to say, “The sky is falling,” and get people all panicked into following whatever the government suggests is a solution, including stifling industry and letting prosperity decline so that everyone throughout the world can be more economically equal.

            Science has become an arena where you find the results that you are paid to find; otherwise, no one will pay for the research. If anyone wants to start being honest about things again, then that will be helpful to all of us. Global warming might or might not be a legitimate alarm, but with all the political pollution of science, it is really hard to tell what is true. Some winters are still pretty cold, and a lot of that awful melt keeps re-freezing. Anything that CO2 might do still comes up against the natural limitations brought by the water cycle. Scientifically, it’s much better to know when you know and tell the truth about what you find, rather than perpetually strain to propagate political narratives.

          11. gotabgood says

            You and I, I am assuming are at best novice when it comes to climate. So we have to depend on other peoples findings. (except for what we have seen with our own eyes over the years)
            You go to a doctor and they say you need a triple by-pass right away… you being skeptical want another opinion. And the that doctor told you the same thing…Now you are in denial and go again… you go see 100 doctors 97 of them said you need a by-pass, while 3 said you are good to go.. in good shape. What would you do?
            That is where we are in global warming. 97% agree with what is going on. While 3% write columns and make charts. What it comes from is our back ground. If you believe God has reserved this earth for His own personal destruction, then you are with the 3%. If you believe this world is self healing and we as humans have no power over the elements of this earth, you are with the 3%.
            If you have seen, read and witness things like smog, our Glacier National Park going from 150 glaciers to only 25 and this happened in the past 100 years… then you are with the 97%.
            If you have heard or seen Miami installing 300 million dollars worth of water pumps, you might ask what is going on and be with the 97%
            If insurance companies are charging extreme high prices for flood insurance in coastal cities…. If the Pentagon is gearing up for refugees because of flooding of coastal cities. If you have read where Hawaii is losing their beaches… NYC flooding…. CA, is flooding. Shanghai is worried.. Australia is flooding. Even Venice, Italy is worried.
            Trees are a natural storage for CO2 and they produce the much needed oxygen we breathe.
            Q:
            How many trees are cut down each day?
            A:
            QUICK ANSWER
            Throughout the world, about 900 million trees are cut down annually, as of 2014. That equates to about 2.47 million trees cut down every day. These trees are used to make everything from lumber and paper to deodorant and food additives. CONTINUE READING
            https://www.reference.com/science/many-trees-cut-down-day-42bf5e6262028f2d

            Logic and common sense will tell you we are in trouble.
            If we can pollute major cites around the world and even have the techknowledgey to clean it up some…. and we know what causes smog.. we can see that and easy to believe…. there are many things in this world we can not see and some are very deadly, viruses, germs, bacteria….. AND CO2 gas.
            We know on a cloud filled night it stays warmer than on a clear night. smog is a man made cloud but does the same thing, it holds heat in. We also know that it is warmer in the city than in the country side. Blacktop, buildings, cement retain heat, while dirt, grass release the heat. Think of the millions of building around the world. think of the billions of miles of roadways.

            All this is logic and common sense and we didn’t need one scientist to say yay or nay .
            I grew up in Southern Michigan.. we use to have snow all winter and cold… we never had to water garden in summer… I cussed the lawn for growing to quick… that same lawn. now requires watering and still has brown spots and is thinner all over… Things have changed!!

          12. Bill says

            You are right, I am not an expert on climate. Meanwhile, the graph makers have shown us pretty well that the CO2 in the atmosphere today is almost 25% higher than the peak cyclical natural levels, and also that the average temperature of the earth is now about 1°C higher than it was in 1880 (e.g., https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/). I would say that these are the actual facts that the entire world has on the table.

            The next is the interpretation, and that is where I become less automatically credulous. It has nothing to do with theology or even with confidence that the earth will be self-healing even if humanity comes and goes. Even if those arguments might be fully valid when everything is figured out, they amount to being excuses for allowing something, rather than doing the right thing.

            Of course, the equation most popularly passed around is this: High CO2 = Global Warming = A Need to Curtail Industrial Activity ( = More Government Control Over Economic Activity Everywhere = More Economic Equality (Universal Poverty) Among Countries Worldwide).

            Rather than obediently go long with this, I submit simply that there are some importantly suspicious aspects to this formula. Whether CO2 is the actual cause for today’s slightly increased average temperature is uncertain; an alternate view is that this is a natural change, a recovery from the unusual cold period of the 1800s. But where it leads off from there into a globalist, leftist, UN-supported political agenda, that is where I am strongly inclined to put on the brakes. Thank you, doctor, but I don’t really need that pacemaker, and you shouldn’t be so eager for that financial kickback. Meanwhile, yes, the fashion of the day is indeed for everyone to “go green” and prepare for the sky to fall, often using expensive public projects to demonstrate the truth and importance of it all. Why not? The political stakes are worth it to those who want control.There is a balance, and a huge difference, between responsible stewardship of the earth and everyone blindly climbing aboard the leftist/globalist political bandwagon. Computer models can be made to predict anything at all. We came up with a leftist solution to global warming very quickly, somehow, once we discovered that it might exist.

          13. gotabgood says

            If you are referring to “expensive public projects” like Florida installing water pumps is a political stunt… that is almost funny when their governor has forbidden them to use and word connected to global warming.
            I am sure they did not build building and roads just to make a point in the political field.
            Now as for natural occurring events. a few hundred years ago the scientist of the day thought the world was flat… they made such an impact on the people that there are some today that actually believe the world is flat..
            http://theflatearthsociety.org/home/
            Going up in a hot air balloon can disprove that theory, you can see the curvature of the earth.
            We have satellites that we can observe most things on the earth, we even measure sun spots on the sun, we watch the alignments of our galaxy. We watch the ice caps on both poles we have devices that measure what’s in our air and what effects it has on us and other living creatures.
            The oceans are becoming more acidic because it is getting warmer, and that is killing off plankton.. the warmer water is having affects on our weather and changing jet streams as well, such as polar vortex. As the ocean heats up it also heats land and/or glaciers up, which causes faster melting.
            CO2 and methane are raising havoc in our atmosphere.
            Fracking itself is causing many problems other than our atmosphere. Causes earthquakes… look up the percentage of increase of earthquakes in Oklahoma. They now have more than CA.
            I will leave with these two sites.
            https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F

            https://www.wired.com/2015/06/frackings-problems-go-deeper-water-pollution/

          14. anibanib says

            You were in grade school,pity you left after 2nd grade

          15. ernldo says

            gottabeGay is an idiot, best to block her…..

          16. anibanib says

            That is true,the worldclimate HAS been changing for millions of years, and during the last 700000 yrs, proof is there, perhaps 6 or 7 complete climate Changes without mans interference………interesting………and during that time CO2 had never been above 250 PPM, and now during the past 250 yrs,since the industrial revolution started CO2 figures have risen to over 400 PPM………….and glaciers across the World are receding………many in Europé have completely disappeared

          17. Retired says

            No he got all of it right .

          18. Retired says

            You nailed it correctly , we would not have Ethanol if the Gov. subsidy was taken away . We waste more fuel through producing Ethanol than what is saved . Also pipes carrying it have corroded and contaminated ground water .Who pays for the Cleanup every time a pipe breaks ??? It goes on the price of a gallon of Gas .

          19. Retired says

            Do you actually believe what you wrote ??? You think Trump supports do NOT see what is going on ???? As far as BP goes who owned the Platform and the Drilling , of the three who had the most money to go after ???

          20. Bob Morton says

            Let’s not forget to mention the means of transportation that Gore, Leo and the like use while preaching global warming. I guess it’s OK for them to use fuel guzzling transports while spreading their word. An Inconvenient Truth by Gore predicted Jan, 26 (or 27) 2016 would be the end of the world. Now there’s a sequel, An Inconvenient Truth, Part 2. I’m not sure when the next end of the world is scheduled yet. Maybe to make a better point on global warming, Gore and Leo, et al need to use other means of transportation while spreading their message. I would suggest a hot air balloon or an air glider. This is Bob’s wife.

          21. Retired says

            You got it , do as I tell you and not what I do .

          22. gotabgood says

            You don’t know! Their jets could be using this…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2PsxWPSAQ

          23. Bob Morton says

            Climate Hypocrites and the Media that Love Them | Media Research …
            http://www.mrc.org/special-reports/climate-hypocrites-and-media-love-them
            Cached
            Similar
            Journalists help promote Hollywood celebrities while condemning average Americans for causing climate change. The same media go out of their way to ignore …
            Although I can’t believe that Gore, Leo et al fly a biofuel 777 when speaking and spreading their scare tactics speeches – Please read…. the above media research. I find this more credible. BW

          24. gotabgood says

            When admittedly you don’t know something, isn’t it kind of irrelevant what you believe?

          25. Skippy says

            That 97% figure hasn’t really been proven. It’s an over inflated number. That’s just a false number ya mindless liberal drones throw out, to say most of the scientist believe this.
            This is how that number is skewed. They go mostly to the scientist that they know believe it. There also some scientist afraid of loosing their jobs because they don’t. That has happened. They also will loose Government funding if they don’t believe this crap, and this is Governments from around the world. The reason why Governments want to silence any opposition to this is because this is how they keep a tight control over their people. That’s what you morons want for our Country.
            Your so called scientist were caught falsifying data, so what have they lied about, and what are they lying about now? This is why we don’t believe what’s in your links to these websites. We aren’t denying that climate is changing, we just know that it’s not man caused. Instead of these scientist scaring people with their lies, they should put their skills to good use and help solve some of the problems when the climate drastically changes. Again nature is going to do what it’s going to do regardless of what man does. Y’all are just mindless sheepole blindly following these scientists over a cliff. All that is happening on this Earth isn’t new nature has been changing itself, and sometimes drastically for millions of years.
            Try again. TTFN!

          26. gotabgood says

            97 PERCENT OF SCIENTIST AGREE

            Scientific consensus: Earth’s climate is warming
            https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
            >
            The 97% consensus on global warming
            https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm
            >
            MYTH 1
            SCIENTISTS DON’T AGREE
            https://www.beforetheflood.com/explore/the-deniers/fact-more-than-97-percent-of-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
            >
            Survey finds 97% of climate science papers agree warming is man-made
            https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange
            >
            I could go on… but what would be the point? I could get Jesus Christ to sign this and you would end up denying Jesus and I don’t want that on my shoulders as you burn in hell.

          27. Skippy says

            You’ve bought in to this lie hook line and sinker. You’re just a mindless liberal drone. As I said be for moron these scientist was caught falsifying there data, so why should I believe anything they say. What have the lied about, and what are they lying about now? I explained how that survey is skewed, and there has been scientist that say that figure is wrong. You guys are running around like chicken little, saying the sky is falling.
            You pathetic morons started out by saying it’s man caused next ice age, and when that didn’t happen. You changed to global warming, and now it’s climate change. You idiots can’t make up your mind what it’s doing so now you call it climate change.
            I’ll try to explain this so that a mindless liberal drone can understand. You are looking at only what happened in the last 100 years or so, and you think that’s the way it’s always been. The Earth has been changing the land mass, the coast lines, and The temperate zones long before the industrial age. Here’s some proof of that. The Sahara Desert was once tropical land what did man do to change that? What did man do to cause the ice age to come, and go? The Nile river used to flow by the causeway of the Pyramids. What did man do to change the course of that river? Try again TTFN.

          28. gotabgood says

            I have bought into a 97% rating and you have bought into a 3% rating..
            And may I remind you of something…… just because you say something, doesn’t make it a fact…. I don’t expect you to believe me, that is why I give you references… but you come back with NOT other references which would let me read about your information… but you come back with…. MADE UP… FABRICATED… FAKE NEWS… all that denial crap…
            You have absolutely nothing going for you as far as global warming is concerned. You are the one that is ignorant or willfully ignorant.
            Most of the effects of global warming, you don’t need a scientist to point out. If you don’t believe man can do damage to this planet…. explain smog.

          29. Skippy says

            Again that’s not an accurate percentage. They didn’t pole every scientist in the world. Here’s what they do they pole a small percentage of scientist, then they come out with this screwed number. They pole more of the scientist that they know believe in global warming. So keep on believing that lie of 97%.
            Just because these scientist say something doesn’t mean it’s true. As I said before they were caught falsifying their data. They were caught falsifying their temperature readings in their computer models. So what have they lied about, and what are they lying about now? So why should I believe any of your references? You call that fake news. Just google it ya moron.
            Ignorant you’re the one that just keeps on parroting what these scientist say. You’re not doing any of your own due diligence research. You’re just relying on other people to do that for you. Typical liberal.
            I told you go to the library, but you’re too lazy to do that. If it can’t be done with a click of the mouse you won’t do it. Go check out books on what the planet was like centuries ago.
            Why should I answer your question, you haven’t answered any of mine. I know the real reason why you won’t. I’ll ask the questions again. How did man bring forth the first ice age, or even cause it to go away? The Sahara Desert was once tropical land, what did man do to change that? The Nile River used to flow by the causeway of the Great Pyramids, what did man do to change that?
            I’m glad you brought up smog. Where have I denied that we pollute? We are talking about on a global scale, not local areas. Back when I was in junior high I did scientific research on this, and presented it to the class. My argument was that smog wasn’t causing the global temperature of the planet to cool. That’s right back then you guys were saying man is causing the next ice age come. I wish that you morons can make up your minds on what smog is actually doing.
            Here’s one for ya the Earth pollutes itself. Every time that a volcano has vented, burped, and or erupted it put more pollution in the Earth’s atmosphere than we could ever dream of doing.
            Now go do your own research at the library maybe you might learn something. Try again!
            TTFN ya mindless liberal drone.

          30. Skippy says

            Your silence is so revealing. Typical liberal won’t answer a question that would prove them wrong.

          31. gotabgood says

            I can back up what I say with references, just ask. Most of the time I give them freely without being ask.
            And to be real honest with you…. I do not have the foggiest idea if Trump supporters see what is actually going on. They seem to deny all facts… so I do not know.
            As for who owned BP? You are missing the point, Disney Land could own the platform.. the point is, when people compare solar to millions of dollar lost, they fail to realize that over the years there have been many “BP like” incidents, killing people, destroying, property, wetlands, wildlife, marine life, polluting water, land and air. Solar has NONE of these to their credit!!
            And I might add the cost of solar has dropped significantly. And before you bring up the birds getting killed by the wind farms… take a look at the new design..
            They are now developing power turbines to work in ocean currents.
            We have at this moment airliners flying with algae fuel
            Fossil fuel is deadly, a polluter and very expensive, wars have been started over it and like its name implies… it belongs with the dinosaurs.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1053e279a4360fc83b41124d4052dba330e728054c554b0eb1b69f35f904cea9.jpg
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2PsxWPSAQ

          32. Retired says

            You left out the pipe line fires and water supply being contaminated by fuel pipe lines . Solar is still very expensive and the home has to be in the right location as well as constructed for it . As far as the future planning it’s nothing new to me as I read a lot of publications . Most everything today will not happen until Gov. funding is supplied . Remember the Converters for TV , if you are over 50 miles away no signal . that was good for the pay TV industry . Remember Propane tanks the Gov. mandated , could not put more than 18 LBS. in a 20 LBS tank . Now exchange tanks are 15 LBS. Ethanol Gov. funded even though it wastes more fuel to make it ??? Smart people in Congress that we have with all these fantastic Ideas . Closed the last lead mine , batteries went up $30.00 . What are they going to do with all the Batteries from Electric Cars ??? Still think others do NOT Know what goes on ???

          33. gotabgood says

            So many statements and questions, I hope you take the time to read/watch what I give you.

            Solar is not so expensive any longer, plus the returns far more profitable than any fossil fuel, including gas. and they are developing other things.
            You mentioned KeyStone.
            This pipe line was from the same company as Keystone… 7 years ago this happened..
            Waterway stays closed for Kalamazoo River cleanup
            Associated Press 5:37 p.m. ET April 29, 2017

            http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/04/29/kalamazoo-river-cleanup/101078980/
            >
            You talk of batteries… this also is old and they have developed others since this one.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sddb0Khx0yA

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e9952513b22de065115df68f7f104299d9ee5b8afa1c0414faf6e7a25536dca.jpg

          34. Retired says

            Do you actually believe that you are the only one that knows what goes on . Solar is still very expensive unless you plan ahead when building . Try putting in a solar water heater in your house if you live in the northern part of the US .

          35. anibanib says

            And Sweden, a highly developed country…….more highly developed than the USA as a fact……….. doesnt use fossil fuels for energy production

          36. gotabgood says

            We have a bunch of conservatives that don’t believe in global warming or infrastructure…. but even if that wasn’t the case… we all need air, water and good soil to grow our food. Fossil fuel destroys all of that.
            I do not know if you have hi-speed trains or not, but China does and to ride on them is treat, they are fast, smooth and quiet. and once again our conservative governors said NO! We do have one being built in California, but the conservatives are doing all in their power to slow or stop it. I don’t understand why? They have to be total idiots.

          37. anibanib says

            Thanks for your comment. Our city city trains only do 250kph, about 160mph, which is Quick enough, a small country, and our trains are the tilting kind, which dont need tilting tracks, Stockholm to Copenhagen COSTs as Little as $22…….about 600kms.
            Our energy is from hydro, nuclear and CHP plants…….about 1% from fossil fuels, as long as it is ever needed

          38. homer1057 says

            LOOK: for what it is worth, IF, and IF people had have searched the “Scriptures” and I mean the King James Version, they would have seen that in Genesis 9:20-27 Obama was never going to lead or even assist in leading any country! Say what you want about racism and call me whatever you like, but if I thought the matter was because of skin color, then I’d expect to be labeled. However, I do KNOW that the whole matter is due to man not taking what GOD said, in spite of what they think, and applying the TRUTH! MY/OUR Opinions, matter not, but what GOD said, always matters, apply those FACTS! HE, GOD, has never made one mistake or error! Show me one!

          39. pics fixer says

            Here is one: After the flood GOD told Noah that, to use the vernacular, he shouldn’t have done that (destroy everything) and will never do that again then gave Noah the world and all that’s in it. (family included and that means all of mankind), with the provision he take good care of it. GOD admitted to error. What makes that so powerful is that humans, a product of GOD, can and must admit to error as well. That is an incredibly powerful massage. Read Noah, with care. Perhaps that is a lie??? Even GOD can make a mistake? Perhaps, even you!

          40. homer1057 says

            So, what you are saying is: God is a liar, John 8:55, He is not to be trusted, and that He does lie, and IF he did or does lie, then how can you, or anyone believe Him? You have NOT proven He Lied, you have said he destroyed the earth, but lied! Rather God knew and knows the nature of man! he created man upon the earth, man sinned, decided God was wrong, and sinned yet more, and because of the wickedness of man, Genesis 6:7, God was going to flood the whole earth and start over! But, Noah, found grace, Genesis 6:8, in the eyes of the Lord! GOD “Repented” that He made man on the earth! God/Jesus does repent, and I am glad He does. YOU have NOT proven GOD lied, especially since Titus 1:2 HE can NOT LIE! You might side w/the fact that rather than call GOD a LIAR< you have it wrong, and He has it right! It is YOUR error, not HIS! IF I WERE YOU, I take Scripture w/Scripture and COMPARE them w/each other to arrive at the FACTS, rather than take one verse and build your opinions upon that one verse! i.e. Job 12:6, now how do you justify this w/Exodus 20:15? ANY TEXT taken OUT of context is a pretext!

          41. Elizabeth Lewis says

            Well what about creating Adam and Steve? Many right wing Christians think that was a mistake

          42. berg1928 says

            And it is a HUGE one, at that!

          43. sharon says

            No such thing. God created man and women to marry. Only male and female. Not only in humans, also in the animal world. It is sin to have sex with the same sex!

          44. berg1928 says

            The King James version is just that – a version printed a few hundred years ago. There are man versions since that are more accurate and more easily understood than the archaic KJ version.

          45. sharon says

            There may be, but most of these “new” versions leave out alot of meaning that is important. I would not use any other than the KJV.

          46. marshmil says

            Not so! God’s Word is NEVER archaic. It abides forever! I find it interesting that nobody ever complains about William Shakespeare’s plays which were written in Elizabethan English which is the same that was in use when in 1604
            James I of England ordered a new translation of the Bible. The “King James Bible” (the correct designation) was finally ready and printed in 1611. If that version is so bad how has it lasted 406 years and is still intelligible, read and in demand today? Many of the newer “versions” have catered to the pop culture and a neutral gender language not found in the original manuscripts.

          47. marshmil says

            Ha! homer I cannot resist! I’ll show you two. He allowed Satan to create the Democratic Party and socialism/communism. I’m a “Believer” but could not pass up the opportunity to jest with you here. ….carry on.

          48. gotabgood says

            You’re right, I read the scriptures that you suggested… and got so fired up I read the whole book cover to cover and not one word about Obama.
            As for skin color… you do know that the Middle East where the bible was written, most are of brown skin….
            I also tried to find USA in the scriptures… not there… now what? Are we to interpret the scriptures the way we want?

          49. Michael Dennewitz says

            Sheesh…you guys are still entertaining that asswipe? ?????

          50. ernldo says

            Yup, I blocked the moron a long time ago!

          51. Jeannie McCall says

            “gotabgood” is an EXTREME libturd TROLL. You should just block him, as many of us already have!!

          52. David in MA says

            I have.

          53. k9maiden says

            The Demoncraps are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites all the way around, it’s just fine, overlooked completely when they commit crimes, but let a Conservative do something similar, they are up in arms. What a bunch of idiots, they are so transparent.

        1. Bob Morton says

          Word on the street by roving reporters – the liberals think that Hillary should go back into the woods and not get back into politics. Let’s just wait for INTEL to finalize their investigations before we totally see who comes out on top – my vote is for President Trump. I also think if we conservatives relate only to each other and ignore the liberals that have infiltrated a conservative site, maybe they’ll go away and just go back to commenting on the liberal sites that are filled with hatred. This is Bob’s wife.

          1. Retired says

            They do not get the Hint it’s not the place for them , plus new arrivals must be informed of who they are dealing with .

          2. Bob Morton says

            I still feel that if we don’t respond at all to their obvious need for attention, then they won’t really have anyone to talk to and quietly go away. I have to suppress the need to reply to some of the stupid rhetoric – my typing fingers are chomping at the bit and I have to hold them back. It’s hard to relate to the ignorant and responding to them is just a waste of time. I have unsubscribed to any sites that were clearly liberal – a lot of “conversations” were just vulgar name-slinging back and forth and no intelligent conversation at all regarding any issues. I have never added my own opinions to those sites. I have liberal friends and we can either talk civilized about our issues or we just avoid political conversation altogther – we can still respect each others’ opinions and still be friends. This is Bob’s wife. By the way, if necessary, how do I block someone? I’ve only been on these sites for a few months. I haven’t had any problem yet but, if I do, I would like to block them. Thank you. This is Bob’s wife.

      2. Margaret says

        Not!!

        1. gotabgood says

          why bother if that is all you have?
          So simple to check out….. and you do nothing.

          1. AmericaSupportsTrump! says

            You check out Moron! TRUMP is President 8 years brathaaaaaaaaaaaa
            You can’t do anything but post your lies, propaganda and hate! We lol at you little man!!!!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f5ec2a8fb15a75460fe8b21b59cd3f71ba279072441490fb75ad3b342f26f8b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2f4ee92a6ca7cad98d865c6a776784c64910ae2fe49ef9e528e52011619f86d8.jpg

          2. ernldo says

            GottabeGay is a moron, block her….

        2. ernldo says

          Jeebus, block the stooge!

      3. homer1057 says

        I am American, born and raised, and I can’t stand the woman, she’s so crooked, she could fall into a barrel of fish hooks and not get stuck!

        1. gotabgood says

          I am unassuming by “her” you are referring to Hillary?
          She did lose the election right?
          Anyway… show me where she was indited, accused, arrested.. convicted or even settled out of court.
          And then you should get a life… Hillary doesn’t know you and all the hatred you have for her, does not phase her one bit… while hatred is eating you alive from the inside out.

          1. homer1057 says

            I can NOT talk to a “FOOL” so I won’t talk to “YOU”! Your comments are wrought w/OPINIONS and those are NOT facts, so believe what you like, I am done w/YOU!

          2. Jeannie McCall says

            I recommend blocking “gotabgood”, as he is a worthless Libturd troll. Just likes to cause trouble in every conversation he’s in. Many of us have already blocked him. There is no use in “replying” to him; he’ll argue forever with his jibberish!

          3. Tasine says

            People without souls, such as you and Hillary and other leftists are never phased by truth. They merely try to cover it up and lie about it. All of us understand that. We do have souls and that helps us understand you and your kind.

          4. gotabgood says

            Since you believe in truth… what has Trump accomplished in his first 100 days in office?
            Remember ….truth.

          5. sharon says

            Me too!!

          6. Tasine says

            Despite all the hysteria you’re seeing from the Left, the mainstream media and from some Republicans who still at this late date can’t get over the fact that he won the primaries, Trump has actually had a dynamite first month in office.

            1) Selecting Neil Gorsuch For The Supreme Court: Gorsuch is an eminently qualified 49 year old originalist and if conservatives were fantasy league picking their top five selections for the court, he’d be on it. Trump did his job; now it’s up to Mitch McConnell to get Gorsuch confirmed via hook, crook or nuclear option.
            2) Ordering The Construction Of The Border Wall: If you had to pick a central promise of Trump’s campaign, it was building a border wall. He’s already ordered construction to begin and as an extra added bonus, he signed an executive order increasing the number of border patrol agents and staffers for deportations. Of course ultimately, Trump will be judged on getting the wall finished, but you have to start somewhere and it’s good to see him taking that big first step right out of the gate.
            3) Undermining Obamacare: While there’s still lots of talk about how the GOP should repeal and replace Obamacare, Trump has already stuck a shiv in the heart of the program by ordering the government to “exercise all authority and discretion available to them” to delay the law and grant exemptions. There are still legal questions to be answered about the long term impact of this executive order, but as a practical matter, it appears to have already done away with the IRS enforcing a penalty on people who don’t have healthcare. Technically, the law is still on the books, but if you no longer have to report to the IRS whether you have health insurance or not, that makes it nearly impossible for it to be enforced. Obamacare is already in a death spiral and this executive order will speed things along.
            4) Killing The Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade Deal: As Jeff Sessions has noted, the TPP was a bad agreement that dangerously eroded America sovereignty,

            “The TPP is about a goal of creating a new global regulatory structure, what I have called a Pacific union, transferring power from individual Americans and power from Congress once more. Eroding Congress to an unaccountable, unelected international bureaucratic committee. In other words, we are empowering the Trans-Pacific Partnership countries to create really a new Congress of sorts, a group with delegates that goes and meets and decides important issues that can impact everyday life of Americans. So the American representative in this commission, which will operate in many ways like the UN, will not be answerable to voters anywhere.”

            For liberals, transferring American sovereignty to an unelected international group is a feature. It’s great that Trump sees it as a bug.
            5) Approving The Dakota Access Pipeline And The Keystone Pipeline: Not only will both those pipelines produce jobs without harming the environment, over the long haul they’ll help reduce gas prices. Liberals may not care about Americans spending less on gas, but it’s great that Trump does.
            6) Putting Out An Executive Order Asking The DOJ And Homeland Security to Withhold “Federal Funds, Except As Mandated By Law” From Sanctuary Cities: Trump talked a lot about sanctuary cities on the campaign trail and it’s great to see him taking action against these lawless cities. The fewer sanctuary cities we have, the fewer Americans like Kate Steinle will be raped, robbed or murdered as a result. There is no such thing as the “rule of law” when a protected class of foreign trespassers don’t live under the same laws as the rest of us.
            7) Ordered Federal Agencies To Cut Two Regulations For Every New One They Propose: Not only will this lead to fewer regulations, Trump has also decreed that the net cost of any new regulation that is added after cutting the old regulations should be zero. In other words, the regulatory burden on the American people can only go in one direction: down. If you want to help the economy, one of the best ways to do it is to stop strangling American businesses with red tape. Trump understands that.
            8) Reinstating The Mexico City Policy: Barring U.S. government funding to international non-governmental agencies that promote or perform abortions is a big deal for pro-lifers. Because of Trump, your tax dollars are no longer going to be used to murder children overseas.
            9) Pulling Support for the Obama Drive to Force Women to Allow Men in Their Bathrooms: This was a bit surprising, because Trump has generally been supportive of allowing transgender women to use women’s bathrooms, but he also said he believes the issue should be left to the states. Towards that end, he ordered the DOJ to “withdraw a motion filed by former President Barack Obama seeking to allow transgender students in public schools to use the restroom with which they identify.” That will probably lead to the issue being left to the states, which is how it should be.
            10) Freezing all Federal Hiring Outside of the Military: Trump followed in Ronald Reagan’s footsteps by putting a federal hiring freeze in place almost immediately after he became president. That’s big, because the first step to shrinking government is to stop adding more people to it.

            All above from: https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2017/02/18/donald-trumps-top-10-accomplishments-in-his-first-month-in-office-n2287565

            If you need more, try reading something that deals in facts instead of fake news.

          7. k9maiden says

            Lowered unemployment more than it has been in over 10 years. Improved the economy more than it has been in years by meeting with big corporations and talking them into keeping their manufacturing plants in the U.S. and NOT sending them overseas, therefore improving the economy AND lowering unemployment, drastically cut down on the illegals coming over the borders to live off our tax paying citizens, and all this while, no one had to get him off the golf course! Imagine that, even though the liberals are HELL bent in getting him out because their “wittle feewings” were trampled on because America came to its senses and decided they preferred a Republic opposed to Communism, and that Capitalism was the only way we could make “America Great Again” President Trump is President, will remain President, and will get elected again, despite the underhanded schemes and plans to oust him from his rightful position. And I hope to GOD that in the next election, a PRESIDENT TRUMP and his Administration will make damn sure that there will be no “rigging the election” as Demoncraps are very famous for doing. Hopefully we will once again have a great nation before the Democrats because the Democratic Socialist of America and they may preach honesty but they are out for their Communist ideals and will stoop at NOTHING to get it, lying, cheating and even murder isn’t too low for these bottom feeders! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23af5c9e36d1e4b6f69bde6402907849e243b27c9ff5bde7c319c4c331c3af99.jpg

          8. mac12sam12 says

            We don’t have Lynch anymore now we have Sessions. The old bag may end up in prison yet.

          9. k9maiden says

            If she and BO continue trying to find ways to frame Trump, she will end up in prison, President Trump will not take these two Communist Loons interfering with a job he is trying to do forever. They will end up paying for their deeds and I can’t wait.

          10. Retired says

            As long as they are alive Satan will protect them even if he has to get everyone in Congress . He already owns the majority of appointed Judges .

          11. sharon says

            Hopefully, and along with alot of them, starting at the top. The moslim, Hillary Lynch and I could go on but dont have the desire to even type these criminals names.

          12. pics fixer says

            You could also take it a step further: She has been investigated like no one else. Every one of those “scandals” were created by hateful, loathsome people out of whole cloth. Every investigation came up the same way, nuthin’, zero! Not only was she cleared but also that no crimes were committed. A good look at that whole Email thing and you discover that all the SoS’s who had Emails did their own thing. I’ll take a guess on this, they didn’t trust the porous government servers and also there were no set and published officially established rules on the matter. SoS Kerry is the first to have clear and “must do” rules.

            While we are pointing fingers, President Bush used a private server owned and ran by the RNC for all his White House communications in a time of war. A private server run by a political party! When asked to hand those Emails over, he didn’t! What he did was destroy millions of them instead. How come nobody is chanting, throw him in jail? Huh? He’s a white male republican, that’s why. Lay that on them. Talk about deplorables.

          13. ernldo says

            Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Another low IQ idiot liar to block!!!!

          14. Bill says

            How long can you allow people to pick your pockets before your trousers feel too light? But remember, if you didn’t have your eyes on it, it didn’t happen. You’re wide open for a fleecing.

          15. AmericaSupportsTrump! says

            Her is Crooked Lying Evil Hillary who Lost hahahhahahahaha love it lol lol
            Crooked Hillary and you Lost loser.,..while hatred is eating you inside you’re demonic evil liberal Democrackhead racist soul…..from inside out & you cant do nothing little man lol

            America crushed yuou and you liberal thugs pos! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f61c28f4090c70a5b4b5314b18c2383c066bccb929e48fc3fe2cf1c0b281275c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b902c954d05b9ca92722e64e94eadd9f133a5f28dc0cb4e55152c036fd6ff51a.jpg

          16. gotabgood says

            you won and you are still carrying the torch for Hillary… such a simple life you must have..

          17. AmericaSupportsTrump! says

            gotabaMoron is a Liberal Crooked Hillary supporter…. Such
            a simple low energy ignorant lazy life you must have….awww https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/685df80489e19904f9f359ee98b34be185bfff243f7963a672d4d37686fa7a8b.jpg

          18. k9maiden says

            Yes, we won and you infantile idiots can’t accept the fact that people not only disliked Killary, they despise her as much as they did BO. You may hate Trump, but trust me, just because Conservatives follow our Constitution, and you loons on the left only follow it when it suits your agenda, unlike you idiots, we believe in a peaceful transition of power, even to the point of allowing an ineligible, Muslim/Communist Kenyan to take over the presidency by a rigged election, yet, did you see us out there burning cars, rioting, breaking windows, destroying others properties, blocking interstate exits and entrances so ambulances with critically ill patients couldn’t get through? NO! Our protest was just to avoid watching anything and anything to do with BO and his ridiculous inauguration full of rap stars and liberal movie stars who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground, and could barely make it through high school, yet, they think theyknow what everyone else wants and needs. Get real!

          19. ernldo says

            GottabeDump is a bit*h…..

          20. Skippy says

            You really don’t know anything about the Espionage Act. I was in the military and had a very low level clearance, and had to sign documents that said that I understood the Espionage Act. Being negligent in handling of classified material would put me in prison. If I did 1/8 of what she did I would never get out of prison. Go read the Espionage Act. you’ll see she broke the law. You probably won’t, because she’s your hero, and you don’t want to tarnish that image. You’re such a hypocrite if this was a Republican you’d be demanding for the Republican to go to prison.

          21. gotabgood says

            what you and people like you don’t get…. she has been investigated her whole public life….. nothing found wrong… no criminal act…. and I am sure if you know something about clearance, then you should know enough that her whole life and all sectors of her life were under investigation…. the lawyers found nothing… your congress people found nothing…. if you know something maybe you should contact your congressman with your proof of wrong doing……. otherwise……. you have nothing!!!

          22. Skippy says

            You truly are a mindless liberal drone. The Clintons proves to me, that some people are above the law, and can’t be touched.
            The FBI director said it himself she was grossly negligent in handling of classified material. That alone breaks the law of the Espionage Act, and will put you in prison. There are people sitting in prison right now for far less than what she did. If there was a real FBI director, and not this political hack, she’d be in prison now.
            So long ya mindless liberal drone.

          23. mac12sam12 says

            She took bribes as SoS and that’s against the law.

          24. gotabgood says

            Isn’t bribery against the law????? Where was she convicted? Where was she arrested?

          25. mac12sam12 says

            We don’t have Loretta Lynch anymore, we have Jeff Sessions and pretty soon a new FBI director. I’m hoping for Trey Gowdy #LockHerUp #MAGA

          26. ernldo says

            Just block gottabeStupid, she’s a dolt at best….

          27. Skippy says

            I will when I’m done having fun with the mindless liberal drone.

          28. sharon says

            She is a criminal!!

          29. Bill says

            Did you hear that they finally got Al Capone for tax evasion? That is the only crime he ever committed, you know. They sometimes say, “When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.” When you have a whole system of cronyism in government covering your butt, and you plead the Fifth to every question that anyone asks, or “can’t recall,” the legal system sometimes gets subverted. That really isn’t quite the same thing as being innocent. Do you really believe that Hillary has clean hands, with all her “e-mail convenience” and “Clinton Global Initiative” (which coincidentally shuts down the moment that she can no longer sell political favors)? I think you should be a little less trusting of the lady.

          30. gotabgood says

            Funny as I was reading your post about the duck and can’t recall the person I was thinking of at that moment was Alberto Gonzales, Remember him? That guy had to wear a name tag so he could remember his name.
            But, you were referring to Hillary. I am not excusing her for anything…. BUT when Powell used a private server, bush used a private server and lost 22 million emails. I do not recall Hillary pleading the fifth, or using the term “I can’t recall”.. now I am sure that she did, most people don’t have the memory banks of a computer. The thing is,,, they recovered her emails… they checked them.. not once but twice… remember, just a couple days before the election. All during her life the right has accused of things, evidence could not be found… . This is the way I look at this…
            She won ALL her investigations, even Comey said he felt bad that his last investigation might have interfered with the election. She lost the election.. the chances of her ever getting into the position of becoming president are very slim, I do not think the Democrats would even put her in the primaries… so why are we talking about Hillary? Do you hate her too? Why is that?
            What would you say and do… If Obama and Hillary went behind closed doors to testify over Benghazi, they were not sworn in, there was no reporters or recording devices allowed… AND they went in together to testify. What would be your thoughts???????
            What were your thoughts when bush and cheney done that exact same thing over the real 9/11???????????????? Was that ok??

          31. Bill says

            I really don’t remember Alberto. It sounds like that’s expected, though.

            Here I’ll adapt for you something that I told another person. It seems always like a good thing to be on the alert about public corruption. Politicians often have people dancing in the parlor, focused on diversions, while they loot the bedroom. And, as you point out, for a lot of people, corrupt politics is fine if it supports partisan goals, but of course evil if it is in the other party. I have no problem at all with Trump being investigated for a Russian connection, because there is not supposed to be collusion between candidates and foreign governments, for example between Bill Clinton and China or Indonesia, in his time. If there is crime or corruption, no one should be above the law, period.

            I have nothing personal against the Clintons, while I do disagree with their politics. But neither of these facts is the issue, here. I know that some areas of the country are pretty well protected against alternate viewpoints to leftism, and for that reason people either do not know about or do not see any patterns in the years of coverups and unaccountability that occurred under Obama, Hillary, Eric Holder, and company. Thay were able to lie and steal and sell their offices (mainly Hillary) for personal enrichment, and then skate on that. There is plenty of evidence about it, and for further facts it could be good to consult Judicial Watch, an organization that has investigated while Congress has spun its wheels. You might honestly believe that nothing wrong happened, but perhaps I noticed it more because I was greatly displeased by it, and not a partisan for it. This is the way people’s minds work, of course, rationalizing some things while opposing other things. But as for everything being fine, when investigations are be turned away while everyone pleads the Fifth and refuses to cooperate, that is not the same as these people being innocent.

            I don’t blame anyone for seeking personal comfort in the belief that Obama had the most transparent and beneficial administration that the US has ever known. However, as with believing that the earth is flat; there is nothing difficult about believing anything at all as long as the idea is never tested. A round earth comes into play when one tries to learn how the solar system operates, visits the moon, or even just travels to distanct countries.

            My concerns about the Clintons lie in the fact that, if you have followed their history, they have long been corrupt, self-serving people who did much to harm American freedom. (Yes, they actually did steal stuff from the White House, and charge rent for the Secret Service staff to live on their property, working at taxpayer expense to protect their sorry butts. Bill Clinton was impeached, although of course he was never convicted, proving that he never did the things he was charged with, right? And we could go back to the Whitewater scandal, which of course also never happened – ?) It bothers me that Americans would elect people who would undermine the country to be their leaders, and use their offices for corrupt purposes, and not even notice the damage to the country that comes from that, all because a party wins.

            I’m not sure what Bush and Cheney did, but if it was corrupt, then I certainly would not defend it. That would be, perhaps, partisan.

            By the way, did you ever see what I wrote about what I thought might be an ideal economy? I’m not sure if that went through.

      4. SuzanneCN says

        Oh no way, we absolutely do not. Open your eyes to the evil, dishonest, vile person that she is. Read about how she treats her staff for one thing, foul-mouthed and nasty woman.

      5. mac12sam12 says

        There he is! Full blown retard!!

      6. Susan Lindauer says

        Not this American! Goldman Sachs & Wall Street don’t count!

        1. gotabgood says

          So you don’t mind Trump being two faced? Talking out of both sides of his mouth?
          I know you will not like my reference….. but go puke… come back and listen to what the Donald has to say….
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84LIJ9CXZNE

      7. k9maiden says

        LOL, America does NOT love the Clintons, only Communist love Killary. Throw out the illegal, dead rising to vote, and the Demoncraps voting more than once, and trust me, Trump won the popular vote by a landslide, because there just aren’t that many stupid people in America that would vote for a woman who lied and murdered her way to the top of the political ladder. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a88d5bacff12bcdc88eb292d0d7653a034828fed6f4161ac42038e1fad10bb72.jpg

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  8. gotabgood says

    AND THE WINNER IS………. DEFINITIVELY NOT YOU!!!!!!!
    AHCA CUTS $1 TRILLION IN OBAMACARE TAXES
    (I wonder who will pay the difference? Something has to give!)
    I bet it will be the same people who picked up Reagan’s 42% tax cut..
    YOU! The tax payer!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/05/ahca-cuts-1-trillion-in-obamacare-taxes.html

    1. Rubendlct says

      According to Trumpy, Mexico will pay for it too!

      1. homer1057 says

        Mr. Trump is only a man, and I don’t believe he will make America great again, BUT he is trying and he is born here, and he is not a Muslim, and is not koranic, etc So, get off the man, and you might consider, pray for him instead of bashing the man! How about it!

  9. just me says

    Sorry non unionized people. Maybe the best thing is to start forming unions. After all THIS government don’t give a damn about you.

    1. gotabgood says

      I do agree with starting unions and if you mean this government as in Trump’s administration… I totally agree with you..

        1. Retired says

          Well he did move the peanut farmer up a notch ,if that means anything as far as doing something in 8 years .

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica! says

            True Obama did do that the peanut farm was fool of Liberal thugs like Pelosi, Sharpton, wasserman, lunatic biden and others,,,, https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd04e5ee9ad9a6f89928248f35f9875a1e4879e45a2394773438bc9539d99b74.jpg

      1. fishinjunki says

        That’s because you’re a MORON, who’s opinion means NOTHING.

        1. Jeannie McCall says

          I recommend blocking “gotabgood”, as he is a worthless Libturd troll. Just likes to cause trouble in every conversation he’s in. Many of us have already blocked him.

    2. fishinjunki says

      Are you STUPID enough to think Unions give a shit about YOU? Unions are just a group of legal terrorists, who prey on the American worker, causing companies to ship jobs over seas because the unions have priced the American companies to death, while providing nothing beyond giving lazy workers an entitlement mentality. Masons, and Electrical workers are excepted because they still demand quality, UAW, not so much.

      1. just me says

        Do you always think what they tell you?

      2. just me says

        Are you that stupid to think THIS government does? And Who’s the Terrorist? Just keep watching

    3. donl says

      Unions SUCK !! I was in a union for 14+ years, could not advance, union would not allow it, so i sent out my resume’ and got a job with a non-union company. Best thing i could have done. So your chances of advancing are limited in a union. If your good at your job, you do not need a union.

      1. just me says

        BULL. Unions don’t give you anything. You’have to work for it. As for advances, that’s your employers decision. Maybe you couldn’t do it.

      2. sharon says

        I started a petition to have the union removed from my place of work and 80% voted to do it. We got rid of those money hungry, lying thugs. I had them give me ALOT of crap, following me around, coming by my house and all kinds of intimidation, but again, we got them the heck out of there. This place I worked had 3,000 or more employees at various locations. What a great day it was to present that petition to the owner. This was UFCW.
        They hate me.

  10. gotabgood says

    They are claiming this as a victory? What it amounts to is them celebrating killing 1000’s of innocent people..

    1. Ken Mayton says

      BS

      1. gotabgood says

        Listen to the talk… not just the left… but listen to the ones from the right…. the ones who still have a little common sense.
        See if you can do the math…. we have ObamaCare now. price is high… but the rich are taxed to keep the price as low as it can……………..
        Trump cute those taxes…. does the price go up or down?
        Trump said price will go down… HOW is that possible?
        Trump said everyone will be covered… again how is that possible?
        Trump said better coverage.. again.. how is that possible?
        You have a price that is high…. the rich are paying a trillion dollars to keep the price as low as it is….. you take the taxes away and the price will go DOWN!!!!!????????
        Do the math!!!!!!!

        1. CrustyOldGeezer says

          Here’s a simple math problem for you.

          When Reagan ‘cut taxes for the rich’. he nearly doubled the income to the federal government.

          When the democrat congress noticed the increase in income, they outspent the increase.

          So, which was the problem?

          The cut in taxes?

          Or the increase in spending?

          1. gotabgood says

            And you think for one moment I am going to trust the word from an
            Crustyoldgeezer?? Not for one moment… I would rather give you an apology for doubting your word AFTER you show me your proof.
            Besides if you pay close attention…… he gave that tax cut to the rich… had NOTHING to do with government, except they lost revenue…. but not to worry Reagan was at the helm.. lost deductions, taxes went up and all federal levels new tax code… the middle class picked up the tab for the rich…. but it increased NOTHING for the government..
            So, may I say… BS!

          2. CrustyOldGeezer says

            You silly little boy.

            II EXPECT you to do your own research to LEARN the facts.

            It’s a really simple search, and even a liberal can do it.

            But, here’s a brief synopsis:

            The tax cuts were across the entire spectrum of the American EARNERS.

            The democrats that controlled both houses OUTSPENT the increases in revenues flowing into the government coffers.

          3. gotabgood says

            NO! sorry you are wrong… it was for the rich…. and the revenues went down….. it is simple math…. you have $100 and I take 42% of it how much do you have left to pay your bills….. I will help you, $58… once you take away you can’t spend what you don’t have. so again.. you are wrong!!

          4. CrustyOldGeezer says

            And historical FACT proves you to be less than intelligent enough to carry on a civil discussion.

          5. CrustyOldGeezer says

            Interesting.

            Your family history in cartoon form.
            And pretending to be a ‘conservative’ so people will thnk you have value to the conversation.

            didn’t work

          6. Jeannie McCall says

            I recommend blocking “gotabgood”, as he is a worthless Libturd troll. Just likes to cause trouble in every conversation he’s in. Many of us have already blocked him. No use in “arguing” with him; he is an endless supply of buls**t!!

          7. CrustyOldGeezer says

            So far he is just a “Practice DUMMY”.

            And you gave him far to much credit.

          8. Skippy says

            Just google it ya moron, it’s real easy to find. That is a fact when Reagan cut taxes it increased revenue to the Government. Congress continues to over spend, that’s the real problem.

          9. gotabgood says

            “The argument that the near-doubling of revenues during Reagan’s two terms proves the value of tax cuts is an old argument. It’s also extremely flawed. At 99.6 percent, revenues did nearly double during the 80s. However, they had likewise doubled during EVERY SINGLE DECADE SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION! They went up 502.4% during the 40’s, 134.5% during the 50’s, 108.5% during the 60’s, and 168.2% during the 70’s. At 96.2 percent, they nearly doubled in the 90s as well. Hence, claiming that the Reagan tax cuts caused the doubling of revenues is like a rooster claiming credit for the dawn”.

          10. Skippy says

            More mindless dribble to explain away the increased revenue tp the Government.
            The fact is that Reagan inherited a worse economy than did Obama. Within the first two years of his term he turned it around.
            Bye bye mindless liberal drone.

      1. Retired says

        There would be a surplus at the IRS .

          1. Retired says

            Soros mug is missing .

    2. Retired says

      Are you talking about PP now , they murder the unborn .

      1. gotabgood says

        No not fetus… people, babies… people that need food clothing and shelter, the one that need medical attention.
        The “unborn” sounds like a science fiction thriller..

        1. Retired says

          Well it sounds like your mother dropped you on your head and moved the brain cells to your rear end ,so now you sit on the few cells that survived . Are you a welfare Queen ???

        2. fishinjunki says

          You sound like a fucktion friller. MORON

        3. mac12sam12 says

          Fetus is Greek for baby.

    3. fishinjunki says

      You can’t compare it to Osama killing Americans by welcoming terrorists by the thousands.

      1. gotabgood says

        Give an example of that happening..
        Website please.

        1. mac12sam12 says

          manscountrychicago.com

          1. gotabgood says

            so your gay… you had nothing to do with making that baby?

          2. mac12sam12 says

            I thought you were that’s why I sent the link. It’s the bath house that Obama and Rahm Emanuel belonged to in Chicago. Both Rahm and Barry are homosexuals, like you.

    4. mac12sam12 says

      Like obamacare? People died because they couldn’t afford it. Is Nancy Pelosi your hero?

  11. Maureen Hannon says

    Obamacare is the worst health care ever. To pay for it, they stole $719 million from Medicare, the health plan for those on Social Security, the seniors and the disabled. Taking health care money from the sickest Americans to pay for Obama’s legacy, sounds like a pretty bad scam.

    1. k9maiden says

      Terrible, and remember, over 70% of the American people were against it. The three stooges passed it in the middle of the night, with not one person crossing party lines, and those Democrats on the fence were either bribed or threatened to vote for it. Then Pelosi had the NERVE to say “We gave the American people an early Christmas Present!” Sure they did, they passed a healthcare bill that was a Socialistic Bill and had to do more with controlling the people than healthcare, and it punished the elderly and doctors! I read an article where many people died as a result of BO Don’t Care, my brother was one of those. Diagnosed with cancer, no treatment for months, and when his lung finally collapsed and he was in the hospital, he finally received his first bout of chemo. Why do all these liberals think Canadians came across the border to receive immediate healthcare when their loved ones, or themselves, were diagnosed with an illness that could become terminal unless treated immediately? Of course, we all know that BO and his cronies didn’t go on the plan they shoved down our throats, oh not only the best medical care for them and their families.

      1. anibanib says

        Diagnosed with cancer, no treatment for months, and when his lung finally collapsed and he was in the hospital, he finally received his first bout of chemo…………………….and I am Always being told that the USA has the very best medicalcare in the World..read CAL3301 reply to me above

    2. Brenda Sinclair says

      yes obama stole the 719,000 million, used it to fund isis and terrorists groups who have set up 22 training camps all over america funded of course by their muslim leader obama, let’s say us tax payers actully funded isis training camps to rape our women murder us,obama only cared about the muslims not us americans https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/633459256175b9b89ae9fcc3ebb007857aa4fc25b09bc8f61bcfe6d8088e3fe6.jpg

      1. Eric Hartman says

        Perhaps you should seek professional help for our hallucinations.

      2. anibanib says

        Extreme extreme lying, either seek Medical help or use a bullet to end your misery

  12. SouthernPatriot says

    It was difficult to pass any ObamaDoesNotCare delete and replacement in the House because:

    1. There were 20 Republicans who were not conservatives or even libertarians who voted against it.
    2. The demented Democrats did what they do best–obstruct and do nothing constructive.
    3. The entitlement class has grown greatly under Obama. Now, the majority of Americans appear to think that health care is a right, even if someone else pays for it.

    At least now, those with high risk health conditions will be put in a separate pool, which will be subsided by taxpayers and not into the general pool, which raises everybody’s costs for premiums, co-payments and deductibles.

  13. Joseph R. Davis says

    Victory? A bunch of fat-cats, standing in the Rose Garden, with Possum-eating-s**t grins on their faces, because they passed a bill that doesn’t have the slightest chance of clearing the Senate? And this is a VICTORY? It’s just another photo op for Flip-Flop Don.

  14. homer1057 says

    When a foreigner from Kenya, who is a Muslim, shows up out of no where, what can be expected of him? Why, to do what Muslims and foreigners do, destroy what they can while they can, and lie about it as they go, so that many are deceived, and many sure where! I saw this coming, but so many, in the name of political correctness and for fear of being labeled, voted this man in twice no doubt; so what does that say about the many who did so! I’ll leave that to you, I SEE what happened and it wasn’t good at all!

  15. Michael Dennewitz says

    If left to the rinos, forget it! ??

  16. John says
    1. gotabgood says

      Try this one out… let me know how it worked out for you…. your silence will confirm that it did its job…
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3869a32829fa391d2a22c9a0abf6170c961437bd9d79410374a5d37295552b8b.jpg

      1. Retired says

        Number one Gun Democrats support and BUY .

      2. John says

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e25cad014593327c91d6ad4cc33d68a712e76254e3cbff651e4c7a47442e94ba.jpg
        The stupidity of liberals is a clear and present danger to society!

        1. Rodney Steward says

          And I believe half of these are teachers in our system, just watch the snowflakes a spudmuffins!

          1. Mary Brumley says

            The dumbing down of our public schools had already started twenty years ago when I left the system because it became clear all the admin wanted was a glorified baby-sitter rather than a functioning teacher.

          2. Rodney Steward says

            Truly sad what things have come to, and now the teachers are no good, all protected by the unions!

      3. Mary Brumley says

        I like the TRUMP .45 much better. We will let you use your own gun.

    2. disqus_v5723Mqspa says

      Trump IS #44 because there was no #44 before him, due to the fact that soetoro is a 100% illegal alien communist moslem fraud. “nuff said.

      1. anibanib says

        Pig faced lying piece of excrement……that is what you are

        1. disqus_v5723Mqspa says

          You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Go back under your rock, where all vipers belong.

          1. anibanib says

            OH, I know the truth, your President is a lying piece of shiit…….and surrouds himself with lying pieces of pig shiit………..but please dont stop, this is the funniest thing to ever ever happen in the USA…….a country full of looney bins

          2. disqus_v5723Mqspa says

            “surrouds”? That’s not a word, and you can’t even spell, like all libtards. Find your meds.

          3. anibanib says

            Well I am using an American spell checker, so it must be right……and here is a website inthe USA…..www.atlanticlandscaperi.com/our-portfolio/pool-surrouds

            anyway, LIBTARD is not a Word either,jerks like you make things up all the thyme…………you are so funny you should be on the stage…..sweeping up

          4. anibanib says

            MEDS is not a Word either

    3. Mary Brumley says

      Is there any chance that a gun like this is really for sale? I would really like to buy one.

  17. disqus_tKlEuAw2uq says

    IT IS NOT A FULL REPEAL, IT JUST A BONE THAT THEY GIVE US TO MAKE US THINK THAT THEY DID SOMETHING, THE GOP IS STILL LETTING THE DEM O RATS RUN THE SHOW

  18. ernldo says

    Its a shame they didn’t do what they promised, abolish 0bamacare. The gooberment can NOT administer healthcare efficiently as there are too many people on the system and too few producing taxable income. Simple math, demotards….I know that’s confusing to you all…..

    1. pics fixer says

      The replacement to going to eliminate 20-25 million Americans from healthcare, have everyone else pay more and get less with the profits going to the insurance companies and the tax savings going to the top 10%. It is you and I who will get it in the neck. How come we are the only modern country on the planet without healthcare for all it’s citizens? How come our system costs more than double of the next highest country (I believe it’s France) at 18% of GDP, which is unsustainable (France is at 8 or 9% and their GDP is a whole lot less than ours) and we have 40 million Americans NOT covered while France is at 100% of its’ citizens.

      The Republicans in the house were full of happy smiles that they passed that inhumane bill. The celebrated the pain and the suffering that so many Americans will face. They cheered about it! That was us, you and I they were so delighted to let get sick or hurt and left to die for lack of care. What can be more despicable than that???

      You are saying that we can’t do what every other country can do? You think that’s being “Great”? Huh?

      1. ernldo says

        No, its NOT going to eliminate anybody. Typically, you are falling for the fake news….

        1. pics fixer says

          Small correction: Once you eliminate the Medicaid expansion you also remove those who depend on it to have insurance. That is where their supplements comes from. In-fact, there is a big cut in Medicaid in the new budget on top of that. Put the two together and you get a whole bunch of people off healthcare. That is cruel. The money for that extension comes from a tax on people earning $250,000 (jointly) and above from cap gains, interest on investments, etc, not paychecks, so, they get a tax cut. There is nothing fake about that! You are the one being fed “fake news”. People like us (I assume you’re not in the top 10% and earn your spending money from investments) are the people who will get in in the butt. Nuthin’ fake about that either.

          These links will explain that all to you.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-health-care-plan-would-quietly-kill-the-medicaid-expansion-heres-how/2017/03/09/804f8932-04ff-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html?utm_term=.b93c18476b07

          http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/blog/2017/feb/states-roll-back-aca-medicaid-expansion

          1. gotabgood says

            Well said!!
            $5 to a donut says they will not check your website. They don’t deal with facts… they use alternative facts.
            I couldn’t get your Washingtonpost website to open.

          2. pics fixer says

            I know that! Many people other than the particular person who I or anyone replies to read the comments. The links do provide some measure of support for what I say.

            There are times that I get it wrong, how that could ever be goes beyond believability or cosmic understanding, anyway, I do check up on that and if I’m wrong, well, I’m wrong. That doesn’t happen too often (please note that cosmic thing). Point is, we can only be responsible for ourselves. Hardcore believers will be deterred by very little even if they feel the pain because of what they believe. It will always be somebody else’s fault. All their idle has to do is point at somebody else and they are off the hook. But, like I said, my comment could be something that makes somebody else think.

            By the way, not far from where I live a bakery makes an apple cinnamon donut [fried not baked] that’s worth every bit of that $5 and you can get 6 for that money. My wife won’t let me get them. something about maintaining out girlish figures and clear arteries. But man, are they good. Felt that was worth a comment.

        2. k9maiden says

          Torte reform and being able to cross state lines to get healthy insurance would be a good start to improving the cost of healthcare.

          1. ernldo says

            State lines, yeah…another example how the gooberment makes anything they touch more expensive and of lower quality…..

          2. gotabgood says

            Do some checking….. Government is ALWAYS cheaper than the private industry..
            A few examples..
            Freeway = Tollway
            Government park = Private park

          3. Skippy says

            Yes that’s because the Government subsidized them in other words we the taxpayers pay for it in taxes. Tell the complete story.

          4. gotabgood says

            Question… Fossil fuel industry has been around for a 100 plus years… don’t they know what they are doing yet? Haven’t they established themselves yet? Why do they still get subsidies when they boast billion dollar profits in a quarter??
            Complete story
            In 2013, the International Energy Agency (IEA) estimates that consumer subsidies for fossil fuels amounted to US$548 billion, while subsidies for renewable energy amounted to US$121 billion. However, a simple comparison of subsidy expenditure does not reveal the extent to which renewable energy is disadvantaged. To understand the exact impact of this distorted playing field, it is necessary to explore how different kinds of subsidy can affect investment decisions in different ways in specific energy sectors.
            http://www.iisd.org/gsi/renewable-electricity-subsidies (this is called a “reference” try to use them)

        3. gotabgood says

          Math skills required!
          AHCA cuts $1 trillion in ObamaCare taxes
          http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/05/ahca-cuts-1-trillion-in-obamacare-taxes.html
          This bill will deduct 1 trillion dollars from healthcare…… You tell me Mr. math man how will you keep everyone insured. and Trump said “Everyone” with better coverage and lower cost…
          And my fake news is fox…

      2. Susan Lindauer says

        You’re referring to the previous House bill. There’s no Congressional Budget Office Report on this bill.

  19. susmart3 says

    “America is returning to its roots as the home of individuality, pride, and free-market values.” Which are corporate greed, millions for top CEO’s, a Congress that exempts itself from anything that touches THEIR taxpayer-funded healthcare program. So… yeah.

  20. higgy01 says

    I wouldn’t rejoice too soon over the ACA replacement. It still has to go through the senate before the president can sign it. What comes out of the senate may not be acceptable and/or all it will take is one of the RINOs like McCain, Collins and a few others to undermine the bill.
    I caught a video of the democrats making like 6 year olds at the republicans after the bill passed the house. That display of childish behavior made me ill. Between all the self serving power groups in both parties and the democrat babies I wonder if there is anyone other than the president that actually cares about our country and We the People, it’s citizens.

  21. David in MA says

    America is being fooled, mostly by RINO Ryan and RINO McConnell.

  22. happygranny says

    I am extremely disappointed that it wasn’t repealed as promised – government doesn’t need to be in our healthcare. I can’t wait how it will emerge once the Senate gets involved. I am proud to say that my Representative saw the light and voted against it.

  23. Herbert W. Love, Jr. says

    ACA, (Obama Care) was not a “healthcare” law at all; it was a thinly-disguised expansion of the welfare state. Under Obama administration the food stamp program increased to record levels, (150%) more in
    the shortest time in history. Welfare is the European method of government and it is not working at all.
    Thank God for Trump. “No one else would put his name on the line for the American people!”

  24. Eric Pearson says

    What the House did last week was nothing more than a political stunt designed to make it look as if Trump had accomplished something. He hasn’t. That ridiculous bill is already DOA in the Senate. If that’s something you want to celebrate, knock yourself out.

  25. Skippy says

    If Trump signs this into law he’ll be breaking a campaign promise. I don’t believe anyone in Washington with the exception of a few wants to get rid of Obama Care.
    Trump flipped flopped on this issue on the campaign trail. I don’t believe Trump wants to get rid of Obama Care, because he supported a single payer system in the not so distant past.
    All these Republicans ran on full repeal of Obama Care, and now they’re going back on that. So much for Trump being an outsider!

  26. Elizabeth Lewis says

    Some victory.. Instead if fixing Obamacare which had some issues the house, after how many years of wasting taxpayer money trying to repeal it has given us a bill of such horrible magnitude it has one wondering are all republicans on the take? On the bright side it may move us closer to a single payer system!

  27. Kendall Stephenson says

    I believe that the unaffordable healthcare act is one step in destroying the U.S. economy, using healthcare as a means to that end. Obama, the “one world government” people in both the dumbacRAT, and republican not/RINOs parties are sill pushing the failure of our one great nation. It’s nothing new. There were naysayers back in the late 1700. When the idiots are able to push through their stupidity we will be going into a national decline.
    If they insist on socialized medicine, why not look for where it has worked and fallow their example. I’ve heard the Netherlands are making it work. I don’t know for sure.
    From what I understand, socialism only works when they have capitalism backing them up in some way. Adam Smith’s economics works, Marx’s economics can never work for long.
    If I’m wrong, please prove it.
    Our Constitution, as God inspired our founding fathers to bless us with, is the thing that make us a Republic. We choose our leaders through Democratic elections. The elections can be messed with. The Constitution is what is supposed to keep us from doing dumb thing. Who is it working?

  28. Susan Lindauer says

    Over 20 MILLION Americans have no access to health care at all under ObamaCare, including my family! So my Favorite, Fearless Truth Frequency Radio host Elizabeth McCabe did something few in the corporate media have done: She read the House Health Reform bill— and guys, there’s good stuff here.

    Do you hate tax penalties for not buying insurance? They’re gone, replaced by a 30% surcharge for one year only in the event of an insurance lapse. So if you’re healthy until the day you get sick, like most of us, you’ll pay a one-time penalty and then you’re okay.

    Do you worry about exorbitant RX drug prices? and the high cost of medical equipment? Thanks Obama for the 20% tax on prescription drugs! The GOP pulls both of those tax rates down to 10% where it was before ObamaCare. That change in itself will drive down health costs BIG-TIME!

    Do you worry that older workers will pay more for insurance? The GOP gives tax credits of $2,000 to $14,000 that goes up with age and infirmities–NOT DOWN like the corporate media dishonestly suggests. Our best girl, Elizabeth read the bill! She knows what she’s reporting!

    Do you worry maternity care is not covered?? Wrong. It is.

    Do you worry about the 75 MILLION Americans on Medicaid? So do we! Here’s the deal–Medicaid will now have a work requirement except for pregnant women, the disabled (including chronic medical conditions, certified by a doctor) and the elderly! Oh yeah, and Medicaid will require a Social Security # making it harder f or immigrants to receive federal subsidies for U.S health care. There’s where California, New York and Maryland Democrats freak out, because they routinely pay out Medicaid to legal AND ILLEGAL immigrants. They demand State rights on Medicaid, then they pass the financial cost onto the Feds! They can still pay out Medicaid if they want, but not with federal tax dollars!

    1. destiny says

      Hello, Medicare numbers are changing beginning mid 2018 when they beging mailing out new Medicare cards with randomly generated numbers so no longer will we have to give social security numbers tied to Medicare or Medicaid. So does that sound like a way around giving social security numbers???

  29. GuardianFlame says

    FYI: Obamacare was NEVER created to HELP Americans but to drain our Money and cause financial loss. Hello Americans! Wake Up. Obasturd never intended even one American to be helped by this monstrosity, and he laughed when the POOR could not afford the monthly payments!! Is that the actions of a caring, concerned President? Of course not!

    OBAMACARE IS ONE BIG “JOKE” ON AMERICANS WHO THOUGHT B CARED ABOUT OUR COUNTRY. He never did, but wants the plusses of being an ex-President, so he hovers around our Capitol like a dirty fly landing on exposed meat.

    BHO still doesn’t care about this country! In fact, his hatred for America began as a young boy when his Islamic blood Father kept telling him to destroy America, the Great Satan. Believe me, the young boy Obama, struggled because his Muslim father was always far away, only visiting him twice as he grew up. Obama hung on his father’s words, admiring his father, not knowing that those words would influence his actions as a man…and they did exactly that. Everything Obama said/did growing up was for one reason, to get inside America so he could destroy her from the inside out. He knew America was stronger than any muslim faction, so the only other choice was to do this from the inside…which he almost did. Thank God for the American people waking up to BHO’s destructive actions and electing President Trump to end this madness!

    Obamacare’s 5000 word Health Mandate was enormously written so no one individual Congressman would even want to read it…but just pass it. Nancy “Braindead” Pelosi said the right words, “Vote for it now, you can read it later”. Every Congressman sighed a huge relief because none of them wanted to read that monstrosity…and only a few even attempted it. So began the steps to increasing American’s financial burdens so much so that immediately Medical Groups dropped out of the Mandate and are removing themselves faster these days. If you’re a Good Honest Doctor, you do not accept Obamacare. Those that do are inundated with paper work and regulations tying their medical processes down and reducing the services they can give. No wonder Medical Groups are leaving that poisonous system. Obamacare will fail…it is drowning as I write this!

    Hats Off to President Trump and the GOP for passing a revised form of Obamacare. This is just the beginning. More changes are necessary for this Healthcare to fly and be acceptable to the American people. I do hope they rename the Healthcare once it becomes a viable circuit for Americans to secure GOOD HEALTH CARE. Obamacare just doesn’t cut it any more — it never did from the start. Remove the bad name and let’s start anew! This time, let Americans choose their own doctors and Health care — for those that can’t afford those things, the States must step in and help them out. That’s how a good system runs. The Federal Govt has NO BUSINESS dictating what doctor or Medical Care anyone should be seeking…no business at all. These are personal choices, not a government issue!

  30. concerned says

    I am unable to understand just why health care should be a “right”. The costs of health care did not start to shoot up until the government got involved in the process. This idea is just another something for nothing ploy. It has been evident to me that any time the government gets involved it is bound to be messed up and cost more. Like a transfusion taking blood out of one arm and putting it back into the other and losing some portion of it in the process. European countries are cited as the solution but the down side is never explained. Most of those countries are more bankrupt than the US because the entitlement disease sets in and that is never ending. Of course there are those who are actually unable to take care of their own medical needs through no fault of their own but so many others jump on the wagon because it is “free”. Obamacare was designed so that the government would be able to take over a large portion of the business of the US. That way the population could be controlled at any time by not allowing certain people “those less desirable in the government’s eyes” to have health care. This was used in Europe under Hitler and could come here with someone like Obama in charge who was going to make fundamental changes in our country.

  31. John Wirts says

    Victory HELL RINOCARE II is warmed over O’DUMBSHIT CARE! Make all politicians and their staffs enroll in BASIC RINOCARE with no exemptions or additions allowedand see how fast they REPEAL AND REPLACE!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Retired says

      It is not a done deal just yet . The senate has no Balls to play with .

      1. John Wirts says

        Never did have a pair male or female!

        1. Grandma Dorothy says

          Having gonads is a thing of the past.
          Long gone and forgotten what that even means…

          1. John Wirts says

            Yeh they are either neutered or spayed, not a one of them capable of producing anything of value!

          2. Grandma Dorothy says

            Thanks for the giggles!!!

  32. Grandma Dorothy says

    Now what was that that I recently heard on the news? All of the news stations including Fox. That senior citizens can be charged 5 times what others…as our president explained, they have so many numerous health problems. Well let me tell you that if a senior goes in to see a doctor just once with just one problem the advantage will be taken, the door being opened means that the all will be taken and that doctor will charge again and again for that one visit just changing the wording around and Medicare won’t have the time to evaluate every patient that comes across their desk. They are all ready over worked and under staffed. I’ve seen it before. Like all those that are young and getting Social Security Insurance checks for injuries/illness in the past but keep paying out! There’s dirty greed around every corner and Medicare will run out of money in a New York minute!!! Where will that leave everyone?

  33. RsGoat says

    First let’s take the names off of these bills! It was NOT Obama Care until after Nancy Pelosi (House) and Harry Reid (Senate) strong armed the bill with many deals cutting out any GOP ideas and then presented the passed legislation to then President Obama. That is when the American Care Act became Obama Care as the Media called it! He had little to do with it except support it.
    This is not Trump care or repeal of Obama Care but a repeal a bad bill called the American Care Act.
    Let us get the personal stuff out of this game and work on the politics of fixing our country! With the Obama Presidency we did begin a era where we are working harder to see all of us have better access to health care and that legacy is still being worked on! The first plan did not work, it was horrible! Now we need to keep working on it and with this repeal there is an area of replacement which is what needs to be focused on!
    We are not a socialist country and when we solve our problems we can’t be looking for socialist answers anymore then we can impose the answers a communist country or dictatorship would use. They must work for us and The ACA was not it. That required us to convert our system of government at some point out of force which was a revolution of paper and laws a governing body was imposing on the people. That can not work.

  34. cal3301 says

    What passed is just another form of Obamacare. They need only repeal it and not replace it. Take the government out of it. The insurance needs to go back to the free market where it was competitive and prices were lower. FYI, preexisting conditions were covered by most insurance companies prior to the ACA without any mark up for the service.

    1. anibanib says

      Come on loony bin. you know that Insurance companies are in the game to make Money tons of Money, and once they have got you…………bye bye dumbo…..even your motor Insurance is triple what it COSTs in Europé…………….

      1. cal3301 says

        Every business is in business to make a profit. That’s a given. The thing is the fact that I’ve worked in the healthcare field and know for fact that that the major insurance companies covered preexisting conditions without additional fees like they now have after ACA. The only ones that didn’t cover it were the rinky-dink fly by night companies that were here today gone tomorrow. Companies like AETNA, Blue Cross, etc. all did. I also know that the free market is what kept the costs down. The only increase that occurred was when Reagan removed the restrictions on hospital costs to compete with other hospitals. The hospitals started charging for every service rendered. Because of the ACA, many hospitals fiolded.
        So looney toon, even if you didn’t work in the medical field you would have known that if you had insurance. My guess is that you are a welfare, Medicaid, or Medicare receiver.

        1. anibanib says

          “”So looney toon, even if you didn’t work in the medical field you would have known that if you had insurance. My guess is that you are a welfare, Medicaid, or Medicare receiver.””…………WRONG……..i dont live in the USA, Ilive in a European country where we have almost free Healthcare, medication, hospitals, and dental care……so that shot your supposition down inflames didnt it………why is it that youyanks Always Think that every reply on these US media sites come from Americans…..www…..means World Wide Web……….right across the World, the USA is only 5% of the world

          1. cal3301 says

            Well, than you ARE the looney toon that posts a comment without any knowledge of what you are even talking about. You must really enjoy talking out your A**, because you surely don’t have a brain!!!!!

          2. anibanib says

            OK,so I make a comment about America………..”” Ilive in a European country where we have almost free Healthcare, medication, hospitals, and dental care……so that shot your supposition down inflames didnt it………why is it that youyanks Always Think that every reply on these US media sites come from Americans…..www…..means World Wide Web……….right across the World, the USA is only 5% of the World””…….so Bright Ass, tell me what is wrong with the facts I posted

          3. cal3301 says

            We don’t always believe that it comes from here. It’s when people try to act like they know all about something and repeat the same liberal left mantra pushed by the liberal left media of this country, we are then forced to believe them to be from the gimme gimme welfare class that the left has established here. Free isn’t always free. You pay for it one way or another,whether you like it or not.
            I have friends from your European countries and weren’t too happy with your so called free healthcare, etc. That’s why many applied for citizenship here legally. I have relatives that fled Lithuania and Europe because of its socialistic ways and I have ancestry that goes back to the American Indians. I know what life is like on both sides of the ocean for a variety of people, but I don’t pretend to know something I don’t or call someone a name without provocation.
            Learn to do the research by listening to all sides of any given. When you can do that, you can make a qualified decision. Until that time, keep your mouth shut, you sound stupid.
            Oh, and FYI, I’m a registered Independent and I DO, DO THE RESEARCH.

          4. anibanib says

            When I say that Healthcare, medication, dentalcare are almost free………they are,no matter what your friends may have told you……..last year my total income tax was 16.2% of my income…….and ALL Citizens of my country get the same treatment and service whether they pay 16% or 0% or 46%……….the higher your income the higher your income taxes are, and 46% is about the highest anybody pays here, ONE tax and thats it, no state tax, no county tax, no city tax, and no property tax……..and medication COSTs about 15% of what you guys pay in the USA…..ex 100 tablets Diclofenac for 71sek about $8………and I always do research when dealing with Americans,never ever make it up or listen to other people

          5. cal3301 says

            If you are repeating what the liberal left MSM is stating, you are not doing the research. That was evident in your first response to me. As for your healthcare, it’s not free. You are paying for it in more ways than you know. The more you make, the more you are also paying for the healthcare of others. In the US our money, was OUR money, not the states. We used to be able to just cover ourselves and our families with whatever policy was needed. Any healthcare that was paid by taxes, was through Medicaid. That was suppose to be a temporary situation for those on hard times or those with disibilities . What you have and what Obamacare was, is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme similar to Medicare. The name comes from Charles Ponzi, an Italian businessman and con artist in the U.S., LOOK IT UP! In Medicare, all US citizens pay into it from their paychecks, but it has been sustained by other workers through the decades, because congress can’t keep their fingers off of ANY accumulating money. This puts the pot further in the red and at risk for running out. What you have in Europe is the fact that everyone is paying for every bodies’ healthcare, with all receiving the same benefits with limited procedures. If it was so great, many Europeans would not be coming here for medical reasons. If you do research, look how many Europeans were told that they can’t have certain medical procedures done over there and have to look for help elsewhere. I’ve seen posts and pictures from people pleading for help. What you have, isn’t really that great.

          6. anibanib says

            So from your very long reply, you assume you know more about my way of Life than I do…………I told you I paid 16.2% income tax,andI do get almost free Healthcare,medication and dental care….hospitals are completely free……….end of discussion……you dont know what you are talking about……….I actually live here, am receiving treatment at this very moment in time,,,,,,,,COSTs nothing,they even pay my travel COSTs, as I must use public transport………..and, If they was some rare treatment that was not available here in Sweden, then they would let me travel to wherever it was available, and pay ALL EXPENSES, even to the USA………..so what we have is by far much much better than what the USA has……………proof, check this website………….www.thegoodcountry

            Science
            and Technology…..Sweden 8th….…USA 12th

            Culture…………….Sweden 3rd…….USA 53rd

            World
            order……………..Sweden 11th..…. USA 26th

            Planet
            & Climate…………..Sweden 7th…….USA 34th

            Prosperity&Equality….Sweden.1st…….USA 46th

            Health
            & Wellbeing………..Sweden 1st…….USA 12th

          7. cal3301 says

            Your taxes are paying for your healthcare, because your European countries fall short in paying for anything else. The citizens of the USA have been paying for your security with our taxes and with human lives for far too long. If your country paid it’s fair share as far as what those of us (that don’t even live there)have paid for all of Europe, our country wouldn’t have a problem.
            The more you make, the more they take. You stated that. Here’s a breakdown on your Sweden healthcare from your own government……

            “Health care in Sweden is largely tax-funded(YOU”RE PAYING FOR IT), a system that ensures everyone equal access to health care services. Challenges include funding, quality and efficiency of its health care services. There is also discussion of health and medical services outside the EU, particularly in organizations such as the WHO, the OECD, the Council of Europe and the Nordic Council of Ministers. Many of the challenges confronting Swedish health care can also be seen in other countries, and include issues of access, quality, efficiency and funding.
            Waiting times for pre-planned care, such as cataract or hip-replacement surgery, have long been a cause of dissatisfaction. As a result, Sweden introduced a health care guarantee in 2005.
            This means all patients should be in contact with a community health care center the same day they seek help and have a doctor’s appointment within seven days. After an initial examination, no patient should have to wait more than 90 days to see a specialist, and no more than 90 days for an operation or treatment, once it has been determined what care is needed. If the waiting time is exceeded, patients are offered care elsewhere; the cost, including any travel costs, is then paid by their county council.
            Statistics from 2017 indicate that about 79.1 per cent of the patients see a specialist within 90 days and receive treatment or are operated on within a further 90 days.”

            In the United States of America, we can see a specialist within 24 to 48 hours, not days. We have 24/7 medical facilities without days of waiting or registering to anyone. We can compare the population of Sweden to any one of our fifty states so your stats are worthless and cannot even be compared to my country. You also have another problem. Your increasing refugee problem.

          8. anibanib says

            I know my taxes help
            pay for our healthcare system…..but what is it that Sweden “”falls
            short”” of paying, so that US citizens have to pay for our
            security…….Sweden is not a member of NATO, and we defend
            ourselves against Russia and the USA……….both are aggressors and
            both are stopped in their tracks when they violate Swedens air, land
            and water space……….and regarding NATO it is the USA that wanted
            itthat way and still insists that you have 100s of thousands of
            troops in Europe since WW2 and now Us troops are in all ex USSR
            satellite countries from the Baltic to Mongolia…………..you guys
            just have to be there………..I wonder why………..perhaps its a
            feeling you guys get of being so small yellow bellied wussies………OH
            and you did mention refugees, they dont get free medical
            attention………they have to pay for it themselves from their
            “benefits they receive””………which is $700 amonth for a
            family of 4………

          9. cal3301 says

            Learn more about your own country before trying to spout out nothing. Sweden and the USA has many treaties, from taxation to it’s military. Here’s a little excerpt….
            “Although Sweden has a longstanding policy of political neutrality in international affairs, Sweden is a participant in the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council. Sweden currently participates with around 500 troops in the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), under the command of NATO, in Afghanistan. Two parties represented in parliament support NATO membership. During the Libyan Civil War of 2011, the Swedish Air Force worked closely with NATO and USA.
            During the Cold War, the Swedish government secretly made preparations to receive military aid from the United States in case of Soviet aggression. Sweden, not a member of NATO but considered a NATO partner, has the longest coastline along the Baltic Sea – a body of water seeing increased Russian military activity.”
            In 2016, U.S., Sweden sign agreement to collaborate on Anti-Sub, Anti-Air R&D, exercises.
            Defense Secretary Ash Carter signed a Statement of Intent with Swedish Defense Minister Peter Hultqvist that aims to increase military capability and interoperability between the two nations.
            The document “sets out our strategic resolve to increase the understanding and cooperation between our respective Defense Ministries, Armed Forces, and defense agencies; to build on current cooperative activities; to identify and prioritize new initiatives; to work together to develop our defense capabilities; to enhance our interoperability and ability to deploy alongside each other operationally and thereby improve the efficiency and effectiveness of our defense efforts.”
            “Noting that “regional powers are testing their strength against neighbors” and that terrorism and extremist violence remains a threat, the documents states that the U.S. and Sweden will conduct more training and exercises together, deepen their armament cooperation, conduct research and development together and participate in multinational operations.”

            We in my country, are paying for your security. Learn to do the research, because your country needs our’s to survive. You are not living in a utopia.

          10. anibanib says

            You have been busy, but the fact remains we are no a NATO member and the USA DOES NOT protect Sweden, we can and do protect ourselves from Russia and the USA…………..both are extremely arrogant and Think they can walk over Sweden,both have got bloody noses in the past……..YOU pay nothing to Sweden……..you are so funny, you reada few articles and Think you know about Sweden, you are a stupid turd and know NOWT

          11. cal3301 says

            Your country has a pact with ours, so get over yourself. We are paying for your protection whether you like it or not. DO THE RESEARCH!!!!! MY INFO IS NOT JUST FROM A FEW ARTICLES, BUT FROM FRIENDS AND GUESS WHAT ELSE? YOUR OWN PEOPLE IN BLOGS!!!!!!

          12. anibanib says

            Oh and one other thing, I paid 16.2% of my income in Government taxes last year, no state or country or city or property taxes, and no Healthcare Insurance, even my car Insurance is half what you are paying and food is much much cheaper

          13. cal3301 says

            Sweden- Capital: Stockholm
            Population: 9,851,017
            Surface Area: 447,420 km2
            Currency: Swedish kronas (1 EUR=9.6673 SEK)
            Belongs to: CoE, EEA, IMF, OECD, UN,OSCE, EU

            USA- Capital: Washington D.C.
            Population: 323,127,513
            Surface Area: 9,831,510 km2
            Currency: United States dollars (1 EUR=1.0876 USD)
            Belongs to: G20, G8, IMF, NAFTA, NATO,OAS, OECD, UN, OSCE

            Your country cannot even be compared to mine. You really can’t even compare what you pay to what we pay on anything, because it varies state wide, but we are cheaper by far. In food, we have more of a variety to choose from and are not government owned and operated. We can also grow our own.
            The trade deficit was an Obama problem along with the bill he ran up. It is greatly improving under Trump. It has dropped to the forties and is still going down once we get rid of ALL of Obama’s trade deals. Capitalism has out performed socialism for decades.
            When it comes to autos, everything IS expensive in your country. The premiums are often set based on cars of the same model in your region, so if you have an unusual car and one of the other three cars of the same model in your town has an accident, you pay more. I don’t pay a yearly tax or road tax for my car either. Since one Sweden krona is worth .11 USD and on average insurance over there can range from 3000- 10000 SEK, I’m only paying 176 SEK a year for TWO cars.
            If you’re spending your time watching what Hollywood puts out, you have no brain. You are suffering from liberal left dementia. It is a serious problem in the Democrats over here. The USA will survive long after the refugees take over yours.

          14. anibanib says

            Your country cannot even be compared to mine.,,,,,,,,,,,ANDTHANK GOD FOR THAT You really can’t even compare what you pay to what we pay on anything, because it varies state wide, but we are cheaper by far……………YOU ARE NOT CHEAPER,NO WHERE NEAR In food, we have more of a variety to choose from and are not government owned and operated……….WE ARE NOT GOVERNMENT OWNED…………98% of BUSINESSESARE PRIVATELY OWNED We can also grow our own……………….ANE WE ALSO GROW ALMOST ALL WE NEED except for tropical fruits…………..and you are lying about car Insurance………….LIAR

          15. cal3301 says

            AS I HAVE STATED, YOU CAN’T COMPARE TO US IN ANYWAY, SHAPE, OR FORM!!!! The majority of everything done in your country is government run and with government permission to do so. Your quotes on auto insurance are a laugh, because like I stated before, there are variables. Your insurance doesn’t pay for your accidents in most cases, your country does.

          16. anibanib says

            You really are brainless jerk……still Reading the lies about Sweden…bye bye, you are not Worth another second of my time

  35. donl says

    Spent 9 days in the Hospital, they were training nurses on ME! One nurse did NOT know how to draw blood, she tried at least 7 times in my left wrist, finally an older nurse came in and finished the job in my right arm, what a bloody mess, when i asked the older nurse what was going on with that nurse her reply shocked me, she said one word Obamacare!!

  36. homer1057 says

    This is for “ALL” who believe that there is any validity in the Global warming lie: Take a Bottle of H2O and fill it to the top, then freeze it, and what happens? It will burst the bottle! Why? Because when you freeze H2O it “EXPANDS” and when it warms, it shrinks. So when the glaciers melt they shrink, and vice versa! So this theory is debunk! CONSIDER!

  37. Obie Miller says

    Call it victory if you wish, but we do NOT need or want any kind of FEDERAL healthcare bill! That should be a matter for the individual states to decide.

  38. Morton99 says

    A victory for whom ? The efforts to replace Obamacare have been appalling and overwhelmingly unpopular with about 80 percent of the public.
    For my two cents, the Republican caucus has penned itself in a dead-end alley. About the only thing that can replace Obamacare that will meet voter approval – is a single payer system.
    It is a catastrophic position to be in if you are a Republican policy maker. If they give in to one side, the massive financial contributions to the party from healthcare insurance companies, and Big Pharma – will disappear. If they give in to the other, they may well lose the next election.;

  39. anibanib says

    OK Guys and gals,so whats it gonna cost in Insurance premiums,which are already extremely expensive, medication is at least 6 times the cost of the exactly same medication in Europé………..so you are expecting miracles to happen now that piggy Drumpf has done the deal

  40. anibanib says

    Last year inSweden I paid only 16.2% federal tax on my income, which covers Everything, doctors, medication, hospitals, and dental care…almost………not one cent is paid for private Insurance………JEALOUS…………..you should be, as the USA is way way down at 38th position in the World Healthcare league

  41. donl says

    Well it’s about damned time.

  42. Kendall Stephenson says

    Is it truly something that is workable? Or is it just more of the same socialist crap meant to destroy our free market economy? Bringing us one step closer to the “New World Order / One World Government” ruled by a small cabal of evil tyrants?

  43. FedUp says

    I no longer fear healthcare issues! Here’s why:
    http://track.mobetrack.com/aff_c?offer_id=1724&aff_id=2081650

  44. Jimmy King says

    YAY WE passed a bill, that none of them know what is in it, none of them have read it, there is no CBO score on it and it doesn’t stand a chance of getting through the senate. BUT YAY we get to have a signing ceremony

  45. RCQ157@yahoo.com says

    In my opinion republicans don’t have any back bone to call them out as liars as they are afraid of criticism by the lying democrats who are crooks and corrupt and should be disbarred and prosecuted and sentenced to prison for their many lies as well as their corruption in office taking bribes as well as kickbacks and selling out America to foreign governments and promising them to serve in the white house. Hillary Clinton should be prosecuted as well as Bill Clinton for colluding with the attorney general for not prosecuting Hillary Clinton for the server. But these democrats are corrupt and cannot win an election without fraud threatening people paying people to riot and burn down buildings police cars and killing police officers who are responsible to keeping our streets clean of criminals, but you lying democrats are not helping as you are all corrupt and should all be in jail for the rest of your lying lives.

  46. Jere Crouse says

    Hooray ! There are some sensible politicans among the hypocrites.

  47. donl says

    It’s about damned time.

  48. Tom Ellis says

    Its not a victory until its signed into law. The loonies in the Senate can kill it.

  49. jcgreen2 says

    We DON’T want Repeal and Replace! We just want “Repeal!” Socialized medical care in any form is still socialized medicine. Just cancel Obamacare and let the whole game return to the private sector where it needs to be. That is the most efficient and fair system by far. Enact tort reform to limit the outrageous malpractice lawsuits, cancel the law requiring hospitals and clinics to treat patients regardless of their ability to pay, make it “illegal” to treat “Illegals”, and get the government out of health care entirely. It had no business entering in the first place. This would take care of the entire problem. Any form of Obamacare “lite” will be almost as bad as the original.

  50. Kendall says

    Is it a true free market based healthcare , or have the socialist RINOs struck a deal with the Devil again. Don’t forget, they are all on the same side the progressives and the RINOs. The destruction of our nation is their goal, so they can finish nullifying our God inspired Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence. The oath breaker, from the BeltWay to City Hall, Each and every one of them need tone brought justus!
    Obama care was intended to destroy our economy. Healthcare was just the vehicle. Yes, we do need effective Healthcare, and immigration reforms, through due proses.

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