Yes, Let’s Talk About White Violence

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The liberal sludge pit known as Salon.com wasted no time in their rush to score political points over the horrific scene in Charleston, South Carolina. Before the public could even begin to wrap its collective head around the tragedy that took at least nine lives, writer Chauncey DeVega decided to use the bloodshed as an excuse to fan the flames of racial tension.

“Is there something wrong with the white family?” DeVega asks. You can practically see him through the text, chuckling at his own wit. “What should law enforcement and white politicians do about white crime? Where are the white fathers in the white home? Why is white America so violent?”

Of course, DeVega is not making an honest inquiry into these subjects. He is hoping that his marvelous sense of irony will turn heads and give us all a moment to consider our white privilege. He says as much at the conclusion of his article, decrying the media for treating every white killer as an individual anomaly and every black killer as a symptom of cultural decay.

There are a number of problems with this point, the biggest of which may be how fresh the crimes were when DeVega cracked open his laptop. Even as of this writing, the suspect has not been named, the motive is still a matter of speculation, and there has not been enough time to properly judge how the media has covered the shooting. An event this shocking will inspire plenty of punditry, but can we at least wait until the bodies are cold before we disappear into an intellectual circlejerk? Racism, “hate crimes,” right-wing terrorists, gun control, news coverage – we’ll get to all of it in due time. It’s not just distasteful to start so early, it’s actively unhelpful.

But since others have already followed Salon down this divisive rabbit hole, it’s only fair that we give DeVega’s argument its due. And it is here that we see how utterly nonsensical it really is. It’s the kind of how now, brown cow op-ed that made no sense in the aftermath of the Waco biker shootout and even less sense now.

Let’s start with the media, since that bears the brunt of DeVega’s sarcastic criticism. In his world, even lefty networks like MSNBC are guilty of giving white criminals their own identity while refusing to do the same for “black and brown Americans, Muslims, Arabs, and the Other.” This point may have been well received in, say, 1995, but it feels dramatically dated in 2015. White America, as a collective, has been mercilessly demonized for years. And in the months since Ferguson, “white” institutions like law enforcement and the judicial system have been singularly blamed for all injustice in the black community. Either DeVega is too wrapped up in his own liberal hemisphere to notice this or he is being intellectually dishonest.

But let’s assume for a moment that he’s right. Let’s assume that you can’t turn on the news without hearing a white guy pontificate about what we’re going to do about black crime. Does one tragic story invalidate the statistics? Does this shooting change the fact that in 2011, 448 whites were killed by blacks while only 193 blacks were killed by whites? Or that in that same year, 2,447 blacks were killed by their fellow blacks? What about 2010, when 62,000 blacks were victimized by white violence? Sounds awful until you realize that 320,000 whites were victimized by black violence. Keep in mind, please, that blacks make up only 13% of the population.

These are the kinds of stats that make liberals uncomfortable, but they deserve to be discussed if DeVega’s rant is to become a common refrain. Of course, every criminal should be judged for his or her own actions, no matter the color of their skin. But for liberals to call for individualism only invites laughter. They are the first to point out systemic problems and the last to discuss personal responsibility. And so it is that we can only conclude that, underneath all of the snark, DeVega really does want to have a discussion about the points he raised. He really does think it’s time to have a talk about “white violence.”

Or maybe he just wants us to talk about him. In that case, my friend, job well done. Fix This Nation can avoid many traps, but pointing out the idiocy of idiots is a lure too tempting to ignore.

302 Comments
  1. peanut butter says

    Just sounds like he is mocking the truth that is told about the black culture to me.
    Immature mind.

    1. The redhawk says

      HE is a PSYCHOPATH

  2. Elise Moriah says

    I am sick of this racism crap. I am not saying that being racist is okay but I am sick of this “Poor you, you are black and the white people owe you something,” mentality. When the government forces programs like Affirmative Action down our throats, the government is causing resentment, which turns into racism. I believe I am the victim of reverse discrimination and I want someone to send the WHITE Panthers out to tell me how to get special treatment like other special interest groups. No wonder we have white people pretending to be black so they can have the same college/tuition advantages as minorities. The government needs to stop all funding for minorities, and have the funding available for ALL who are in financial need-period. The government is discriminating against non-minorities, usually what is considered “white.” There is no WHITE privilege. Whites are the victims of government discrimination. No wonder our youth are being attracted to these white supremacist organizations-there appears to be no governmental agencies to represent the non-minority community. Our government is responsible for most of this mayhem we are experiencing.

    1. Deborah G says

      It is gOVERNMENT SPONSored racism

      1. Croco Dile says

        Fear is a depreciating asset. The government must make up for the depreciation by investing in the maintenance, modernization, and replacement of its stock of fear capital.
        By keeping the population in a state of artificially heightened apprehension, the government-cum-media prepares the ground for planting specific measures of taxation, regulation, surveillance, reporting, and other invasions of the people’s wealth, privacy, and freedoms. Left alone for a while, relieved of this ceaseless bombardment of warnings, people would soon come to understand that hardly any of the announced threats has any substance and that they can manage their own affairs quite well without the security-related regimentation and tax-extortion the government seeks to justify.

        1. Deborah G says

          Selling fear is a lucrative endeavor for Politicians and financial gurus

        2. LastGasp says

          “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
          -H. L. Mencken,

    2. Americans Wake Up says

      You need to go to college on your UCCF( United Caucasion College Fund) grant. Oh, sorry! you can only have a college fund for minorities.
      So just stay at home and watch WET (White Entertainment Television) channel. Oops, sorry again. To have a white channel is racist.

      1. Karen says

        To get a UCCF grant, one must carry a self made grade point average that is NOT embellished with affirmative action points added to continue to receive this grant! So YOU just stay home and watch you BET channel! And collect your welfare, food stamps, free phone, free breakfast/lunches for you kids(in addition to your food stamps), section 8 housing, unearned income credit on income taxes, and free internet(in the works). I think you should also rally for free vacations, after chasing all this free stuff you need one! Luv ya!

      2. Combatvet52 says

        Anything WHITE is racist to all these scumbags.

    3. Deby says

      Amen to that Elise! I went to college in 1971 and I came from a single parent home with 2 other siblings, so that meant financial aid-which I got, but not much, so I had to work as well-when I got into a classroom, it was 90% black, and all of them had full financial scholarships, because they were “poor” and hmmm, also black. Sorry, but where was the equality in that? I should mention that of course I was a flaming liberal when I entered college, but left it leaning right.

      1. Deborah G says

        white Middle Class kids have a harder time affording college than minorities. Their parent struggle save and take loans. Thier taxes are taken to give it free to someone else’s kids. NOT FAIR

        1. Karen says

          Then when they get out of college,(usually quit), they DON”T look for a job, they just continue into the “SYSTEM” or have to take a low paying job that allows them to continue into the system. To those who do take advantage of this and finish college with a degree and contribute to society, I introduce you to “WHITE PRIVILIGE”!

          1. Deborah G says

            Amen to that! Preaching to the choir here.

      2. LastGasp says

        Me too! Even though I didn’t finish paying off a couple degrees until the Nineties, the Seventies were great. People used to be responsible for their lives and paid for what they received.

    4. Deborah G says

      Honestly what is racism?

      1. Elise Moriah says

        Really?

        1. Deborah G says

          yes really. There is bias in everyone based on personal experiences,we are all biased to a degree. THEN there is truth and THAT my friend is NOT racism

          1. Elise Moriah says

            OK, now I understand where you are coming from. I honestly thought you were asking for a definition of racism. I agree with you exactly.

          2. Deborah G says

            Not a problem sometimes its hard to get a point across online. (-: I’m not perfect LOL I am FAR from a racist but I find it is better to speak the truth. I have a pretty mixed family and we are brutally honest about issues. IF a white person does something based on hatred of blacks it is evil and vice versa.BUT you have to call it what it is.Not like the people who can’t read the statistics and gleen the real truth out of the reality of the facts.The landscape these days is that whites are ALWAYS racist and cops are out to kill innocent blacks.

          3. Elise Moriah says

            I really like you (probably because it appears we think alike). You are right, and I have friends from many races and cultures. I was raised in the military, so we as children saw each other as people first because the military is so diverse. We went to school together, cried together when we lost a friend to a car wreck or Viet Nam (yes, I am that old-almost 61), laughed together, etc. But much later in life I had a heart attack and died and had a near-death experience. What I was told by the light, I already knew, but later I re-realized something else, I had just never pondered it or really gave it deep thought before this. What I re-realized was: THE SOUL/SPIRIT HAS NO RACE. I’m not sure it has a feminine or masculine quality. It DOES have its own personality, though. How do you fairly judge someone by the “shell” they happen to be born with? I can’t (spiritually or logically) do that with a clear conscience, and I never tried to (probably because I was exposed to many different races and cultures from birth because I lived on military bases and the practice of discrimination in the military AT THAT TIME was not permitted). I had no choice but to be aware of the “Stop the War,” Civil Rights and Women’s Liberation movements because I was at the right age to be smack dab in the middle of it. (During one protest I did burn my bra while my boyfriend burned his draft card-how HORRIBLE of me!) I am very patriotic, and I understand the price paid by our fighting men (and, believe me, the military family members made sacrifices, too, even if THEY were not the ones going off to war). Our Constitutional rights are precious, and the freedoms we enjoy are, and never were, FREE. A heavy price to defend it was paid by many. Americans need to unite as AMERICANS to protect our country and the Constitution for which it stands. This is what I believe Obama and his administration/ideology is trying to unravel from the inside out. We HAVE to stand together as AMERICANS first and foremost, and work on our social issues also. We have to be SMART enough to see how they are deliberately trying to divide us as AMERICANS. This is why the practice of ALL Islam that admits to embracing the ideology in the Koran in America has to be stopped. To the best of my knowledge and research, ALL who claim to be Muslim claim to embrace the Koran. You don’t get to say you only believe in “parts” of it. That would be like saying you are a Christian but do not believe in ALL of the Bible or New Testament. You either are, or you are not. This is NOT freedom of religion I want to stop. ALL Islam embraces the Koran. Those who claim to believe in the Koran, but not the violent parts, need to change to a religion that does not have the ideology in the Koran, and stop calling themselves Muslims. I have read the Koran, and it is NOT a religion, it is an ideology that uses religion as an excuse to enslave all people to that ideology and believe me, under ANY Islamic LAW that embraces the Koran, you are not free. Some people would accuse me of being a “hater.” I DO hate EVIL, so, in that sense, I guess I am. That’s the only thing I can think of (except maybe slavery, innocents being murdered in cold blood, etc.) that I HATE. Oh yeah, I DO HATE ANY government or ideology that threatens ANY of my freedoms. Anyway, I suppose I got a little off subject, but the main point is: AMERICANS UNITE for the America that was formed by the framers of our Constitution, and be smarter than the politicians that are trying to divide us.

          4. Elise Moriah says

            I really like you (probably because it appears we think alike). You are right, and I have friends from many races and cultures. I was raised in the military, so we as children saw each other as people first because the military is so diverse. We went to school together, cried together when we lost a friend to a car wreck or Viet Nam (yes, I am that old-almost 61), laughed together, etc. But much later in life I had a heart attack and died and had a near-death experience. What I was told by the light, I already knew, but later I re-realized something else, I had just never pondered it or really gave it deep thought before this. What I re-realized was: THE SOUL/SPIRIT HAS NO RACE. I’m not sure it has a feminine or masculine quality. It DOES have its own personality, though. How do you fairly judge someone by the “shell” they happen to be born with? I can’t (spiritually or logically) do that with a clear conscience, and I never tried to (probably because I was exposed to many different races and cultures from birth because I lived on military bases and the practice of discrimination in the military AT THAT TIME was not permitted). I had no choice but to be aware of the “Stop the War,” Civil Rights and Women’s Liberation movements because I was at the right age to be smack dab in the middle of it. (During one protest I did burn my bra while my boyfriend burned his draft card-how HORRIBLE of me!) I am very patriotic, and I understand the price paid by our fighting men (and, believe me, the military family members made sacrifices, too, even if THEY were not the ones going off to war). Our Constitutional rights are precious, and the freedoms we enjoy are, and never were, FREE. A heavy price to defend it was paid by many. Americans need to unite as AMERICANS to protect our country and the Constitution for which it stands. This is what I believe Obama and his administration/ideology is trying to unravel from the inside out. We HAVE to stand together as AMERICANS first and foremost, and work on our social issues also. We have to be SMART enough to see how they are deliberately trying to divide us as AMERICANS. This is why the practice of ALL Islam that admits to embracing the ideology in the Koran in America has to be stopped. To the best of my knowledge and research, ALL who claim to be Muslim claim to embrace the Koran. You don’t get to say you only believe in “parts” of it. That would be like saying you are a Christian but do not believe in ALL of the Bible or New Testament. You either are, or you are not. This is NOT freedom of religion I want to stop. ALL Islam embraces the Koran. Those who claim to believe in the Koran, but not the violent parts, need to change to a religion that does not have the ideology in the Koran, and stop calling themselves Muslims. I have read the Koran, and it is NOT a religion, it is an ideology that uses religion as an excuse to enslave all people to that ideology and believe me, under ANY Islamic LAW that embraces the Koran, you are not free. Some people would accuse me of being a “hater.” I DO hate EVIL, so, in that sense, I guess I am. That’s the only thing I can think of (except maybe slavery, innocents being murdered in cold blood, etc.) that I HATE. Oh yeah, I DO HATE ANY government or ideology that threatens ANY of my freedoms. Anyway, I suppose I got a little off subject, but the main point is: AMERICANS UNITE for the America that was formed by the framers of our Constitution, and be smarter than the politicians that are trying to divide us by race or any other deterrent.

          5. Deborah G says

            I hate evil as well and am very pragmatic about good and bad. why is it that no one on the left ever blames the black people for their bad behavior? NOT their race their behavior? with the excuse of race? I call this evil little toad what he is a sick,demented,paranoid mentally ill hater. I think it is because of the liberals honestly. They keep making excuses for bad behavior on the part of the blacks and wants them to have special privilege so weirdo’s like him who are probably disenfranchised from society anyway think they are taking over the world. WHY? because in his sick mind he listened to what the libs say.

            MLK’s daughter was on today and she was quite good. She said Hate is hate it knows no color. She’s seen Afro-americans kill their own, kill whites and her family has been shot by blacks too.She just speaks the truth.

            Then Hillary comes out and says it happened because of Fox news and Talk radio. No offense MORON I doubt this kid EVER watched Fox news or listened to Rush Limbaugh.IF as they say Fox and Rush Limbaugh are the voice of old conservative gray haired Tea Party people not the youth or millennials than what makes her think he was the ONE in a million Who does? NONsENSE!

            He was listening to YOUR Liberal tales and felt the blacks were getting way more than he was attention wise.He is a product of the baiting and the envy put forth by the left wing ideology. Divide to control. Guess they couldn’t control what they created.

            I

          6. Elise Moriah says

            Well, when these Islamalunitics (that they allowed to enter and are currently shipping in on the sly to America) turn on one of them-and they WILL, they DAMNED-SURE won’t be able to control it, because it’s already out-of-hand. I think this is going to be our biggest problem REAL soon. I hope I’m wrong.

          7. Deborah G says

            I agree the Muslims are banking on the Liberal PC stupidity to infiltrate our free culture. They know EXACTLY what they are doing and the liberals are too stupid to have a clue. Buy them a Coke and see if they start singing

  3. CCblogging says

    The left stokes the fires of racism and then pretends shock when their hateful tactics bear fruit. Barack Hussein Obama, the community agitator is the biggest hater and he has promoted racism from the git go.

    1. Roger_T73 says

      oblamo is PURE HATE.
      When his lips are moving, he is lying.
      he is the worse scumbag to ever even enter the White House, having done more to damage America than Hitler even dreamed of doing!!!

  4. OpieOnIt says

    This is about as sad as it gets. These people were slaughtered as they worshipped The Lord. Let me simply say that if he’d done this in my church, there would have, most probably, only been two human beings shot – the shooter and his first victim. Although one never knows for sure until it happens, we are at least as prepared as possible. This is not a political statement , but rather a solution to what sadly lies ahead in this climate of hate which has been purposefully fueled by our “leaders” for political gain.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      AMEN. “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.”

      1. The redhawk says

        LOCK and LOAD and be ready to fire
        Ready on the right ……Ready on the left…

        1. Deborah G says

          The left is NEVER ready trust me

          1. Conservative says

            The left would rather criticize and blame others than look at the only practical solution. Any responsible, mentally sound, properly trained person should be allowed to carry guns as they choose. That would save innumerable lives and the cowardly perpetrators would be stopped before they can slaughter others. Criminals do not obey any laws and gun control and any sane person knows that they would be the only ones carry guns to commit crimes and take lives.

          2. Deborah G says

            As usual you are the voice of intelligent responses and reason on these blogs. I always enjoy your perspective ,usually agree 100%

          3. Conservative says

            Thanks, you made my day!

          4. Deborah G says

            You usually make mine because there are so few reasonable conservative voices that call it like they see it without sophomoric behavior

          5. gregsmom says

            I agree. That was my first thought, just as it was in that theater shooting in Aurora, CO. The majority of those folks would be alive today if I had been there unless I was the first one shot! And we would have saved taxpayers two expensive trials.

          6. madmemere says

            Sadly, as we were informed later, that theater was a “gun-free zone”! Although, if you “carry concealed”, who is to know? Obviously, no one was that night.

          7. gregsmom says

            There isn’t any such thing as a gun-free zone legally as far as I know. I carry legally, and I would have been armed in that theater or in that bible study group. Churches, IMO, are one of the most likely places for an attack to happen, so I carry, and nobody knows that I have it. They won’t know unless some nutjob or religious radical tries to shoot up the place in which case many may be happy that I’m carrying. That’s how I look at it anyway.

          8. Elise Moriah says

            Same for me.

          9. madmemere says

            Agree with your point -legally, there is no such thing as a gun-free zone; in fact, legally, every one of US should be able to carry “without” a “government permit”. At least, according to the 2nd Amendment.

          10. madmemere says

            Sadly, as we were informed later, that theater was a “gun-free zone”! Although, if you “carry concealed”, who is to know? Obviously, no one was that night.

          11. Warpaint says

            If our government really wanted to stop it, anyone caught with a weapon in commission of a crime gets 20 w/o parole, if the weapon is stolen you three strike em life w/o parole, death resulting from crime with a firearm gets the death penalty period. 1 trial, 1 appeal then you televise the state flipping the switch in every class room in the country as an abject lesson in cause and effect.

          12. OSAMA OBAMA says

            YES!!!

          13. Michael Dennewitz says

            YESSSSS!!!

          14. Warpaint says

            It just seems like common sense, you make the penalties firm and fast, no wiggle room or judges discretionary use of laws. Mike, if you did this a few times where the execution is televised made mandatory watching by all school children grades 4 through university level especially in our inner cities you would see the crime rate drop quickly. Once they see the end results of being a thug is death cold and hard, I would bet it would stop a great deal of the violence but not all unfortunately….

          15. Steve Crawford says

            I agree with these suggested penalties, but let’s add also, that any prosecutors and police officers that lies and withhold evidence will go to jail also. Too many people have been falsly accused or forced to admit a crime that they didn’t commit.

          16. Warpaint says

            Any malfeasance of investigation or trial should have severe penalties. Jail, loss of position, pensions…

          17. Billy says

            Yeah, and everybody in prison is innocent. “BS”.

          18. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

            Not everyone is innocent, but if every cop took a lie detector test, every time they had to testify, less would show up for court. Of course they aren’t admissable, but still, wish they would penalize cops severely. Definitely need to have sound and video all arrests, like Robocop. But of course places like Houston, TX, Harris County can’t afford that. Just places that actually care about justice.

          19. Billy says

            Michelle Minze-Bryant – – – I live in Houston and have NEVER had an issue with the police. Got a couple of speeding tickets but that was my fault, I was speeding.
            It sounds as though YOU may have had some contact with the police. You know, the best thing to do is “not put yourself in a position to have contact with the police” and you won’t have to worry about police abuse of any kind.

          20. ipsd48 says

            Billy,
            If you live your life ‘keeping your head down’ it’s very easy for them to snap a collar around your neck.

          21. Billy says

            What are you talking about ? I have always lived my life like a man, standing tall with my head up. I don’t care who you are, if you commit a crime you need to go to jail, PERIOD. All this BS about all of the innocent people in jail is just that, “BS”. If they were innocent they wouldn’t be in jail.

          22. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

            Well, when it comes to people with records, is mainly where I’m coming from. If they have priors of drugs, they ‘SAY’ they smelled it on their breath…that’s admissable? They say that you gave them permission to search the car. How does the person prove they didn’t? Then there’s the people at apartments, just because your not their color, everyone wants you out. Someone fired a gun and sped off. Most the complex isn’t white, but he is, and a white gang member. So, does it matter if his wife says he wasn’t there? No, does it matter he doesn’t have a gun, No, does it matter that he doesn’t own a vehicle like was described, No. All that matters is that someone said it was him. But the cops weren’t a part of that, but he was made to stay off the property. Took pictures of his tattoos and everything.

          23. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

            I second your motion, cops need harder psychological testing before they are handed a badge.

          24. Elise Moriah says

            ABSOLUTELY. I once had a Denton County, Texas cop threaten to physically injure me because I didn’t have the answer he wanted to hear. It was reported and I doubt anything was done about it. I am tiny, elderly and disabled. He was young and strong. I needed a civil rights attorney, but couldn’t get any help because I am white. That cop was clearly mentally unbalanced.

          25. Deborah G says

            A gun not so much a badge

          26. ipsd48 says

            Michelle;
            But, but , but……………….then people of COLOR couldn’t be cops! :/

          27. Deborah G says

            I totally agree the only way to TRUE equaliity is EQUAL personal responsibility and justice. PERIOD> You act like a thug? DONE! YOU frame someone or use your authority to disrespect your office? Same justie. EQUAL =EquaL on all fronts. Don’t ask for special favors,excuses for something that happened 100 years ago, no escape clauses or anything else.

          28. ipsd48 says

            Steve;
            I agree. Which is why all capital crimes should require DNA evidence to back it up …………by LAW

          29. Conservative says

            It’s a great idea but then you would see all the politically correct liberals up in arms defending these thugs and working feverishly to overturn that law. That’s the hypocrisy of the Mentally Deranged Liberals. They thrive on fighting against common, practical sense. They are all hypocrites.

          30. Warpaint says

            If they wish to fix this issue they can not keep making erroneous statements and running on emotions only… pass a law like I described in all 50 and the territorys and tell the feds to screw. This one story is about a father stupidly giving his screwed up son a 45 cal on his 21st, he must have known his kids whitepower beliefs, lf he didnt instill them himself. As far as I can see this is just as much the father’s fault as his sons.
            How do we keep stupid people away from firearms? psychology tests?

          31. Conservative says

            There is no excuse for that idiot father. He knew his son had a criminal record so why did he give him, of all things, a gun? That is stupid and he should be arrested, jailed and tried for aiding and abetting his son. I understand the mother took it from him but apparently he found it and used it to murder innocent people. We all know his son never went through a background check so the father obviously used his credentials as owner of that gun. That is fraud.

          32. MaryLipchey says

            Conservative>You are so right,so how come I haven’t
            heard anything about his parents?

          33. Deborah G says

            apparently to me anyway he should be held as accessory to homicide

          34. Ricky Bates says

            these test would be pointless as political pressure could sway their results ant take guns from good people. your earlier idea was much better. harsh penalties swift action. crime will never go away but it can be greatly reduced

          35. Gary Dingle says

            But this is not the first time this happened. It happens every day in the USA. Most of the gun homicides occur between people that know each other. That is the only difference in the Charleston massacre. I man in Virginia killed 8 family members and friends spread out over several homes. How long will continue to say that each and every massacre was just some crazy person or some unusual incident and then go on as if it never happened? This has happened before. Blacks have killed whites for similar hateful reasons. Though it seems most of the massacres are committed by white men there is nothing saying that anybody couldn’t do it if properly armed. And we are properly armed. The Boston Bombers could have killed many more people with easily accessible automatic weapons. But they knew that a bomb evokes more terror in the USA than two men armed with fully automated assault rifles with 100 round clips. We can’t keep stupid people away from guns because the NRA and the billion dollar gun industry wants to sell guns to every living human being. The theory offered by the gun industry is to solve every societal and psychological illness before we even consider restricting access to guns. Some gun proponents want to sell guns to convicted felons. In some states there is an effort to make 15 years old with some restrictions the legal age limit for open carry. We seem extremely liberal when the discussion is about gun deaths.

          36. Deborah G says

            The liberals are what caused this disaster from the get go

          37. Conservative says

            They’ve only just begun, campaign season is upon us so get ready more lies, hypocrisy, vitriol and more wedges forced between men & women, black and white, Mexicans and Americans, Americans and illegal aliens. Square your shoulders and stiffen your spine we are going to be hit with all the garbage from the liberal, political dump.

          38. Deborah G says

            I just hear Blah Blah prattle prattle I refuse to listen to that garbage at all. I am an adult and want INTELLIGENT discourse regarding REAl issues. Not if someone had a parking or speeding ticket 12 years ago

          39. Elise Moriah says

            It’s only going to get worse. If this extreme lefty that was hounding me (Melinda Killie) is any indication of even 1/4 of the population’s mind-set, we are really in trouble. I don’t know if there is a way to look up all of her conversations by name – is there? She is a perfect example of Left-wing brainwashing on an ISIS scale.

          40. Deborah G says

            They plant trolls to agitate ignore them

          41. Elise Moriah says

            WOW, they are going through a lot of trouble.

          42. Deborah G says

            They are subversives and have an agenda. That’s what got us a race baiting, class warfare,anti- American Saul Alinsky radical Community agitator for a president.

          43. Elise Moriah says

            Well, the f*cking agitating is working on me!!

          44. Elise Moriah says

            Deborah, here’s an excerpt of that lefty loon I was telling you about:

            Melinda Killie Elise Moriah an hour ago
            Again, do you have any “TANGIBLE” proof that could be used in a court of law, elise, or are you again talking out of your anal orifice? You republican boobs STLL have nothing on Obama, and in the republican desperation, you are grasping straws that are breaking in your dumb hands.. LOLOLOL! keep whining, elise… keep whining…

            HOW do we fight this kind of stupidity??

          45. Deborah G says

            You don’t that kind of of sophomoric idiocy. In fact you don’t respond and let them implode on their own lack of oxygen. The reality is smart,intelligent informed people are the bane of the left’s existence. They can only function if they have victims and divide via race,money,religion. Personally I wouldn’t waste a breathe of air on a moron like that

          46. Warpaint says

            To acknowledge them is to give the liberal wigglers credence. When you srep in crap on the street you dont address it do you?

          47. Deborah G says

            Good analogy

          48. ipsd48 says

            My answer to her would have to be that Sheriff Joe Aprasio produced evidence of Obama fraud through an 18 month investigation but the courts refuse to look at it.
            That doesn’t invalidate Sheriff Joe’s evidence, but it may invalidate the courts.

          49. ipsd48 says

            I suspect it may have BEEN lib media defending black thugs and racial riots that sent Dylan off the deep end

          50. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

            Agree, accept for the ones that enjoy strangling puppies and like to see life leaving a body. Too much criminal minds, but also worked around councilors that had client children like that… Help or hurt? Did it help or hurt in the old days with lynchings? guillotine?

          51. Warpaint says

            Yes there are sick and perverted beings out there, and even having a common sense firearms policy and laws to aggressively curtail them in the commission of a crime there still will be a percentage that will still find a way to gain access to firearms illegally like this kid. Lynching would be a sigh of the collapse of our society and fair play, right now there is no lessons that our society gives on crime and punishment so by televising it to show kids there IS cause and effect to their actions if they are not being taught that at home, even if the kids are learning it at home reinforcement will not hurt.

          52. Billy says

            Great minds think alike. You are right on point. They should be looking this little idiot in the face today and telling him, “you are going to die for what you did” and follow through within 7 days. Everyone knows he did it. He admitted he did it so why have a trial, it’s a waste of time and effort. Get it over with.

          53. El says

            You can’t do that! That would deprive a court system to generate wealth, a prison system to increase their budget, lawyers would have no case, newspapers no material to report on, politicians no case to rule on. Wow. This would be terrible.

            This situation is terrible, but thousands of Christians are being murdered in the Middle East and no one of political ambition shows concern here. Moreover, president Obama’s actions seem to support the ISIS movement, which is doing the killing. The Islamofascist Democrat Party wants to bring more terrorists to the USA to bolster their strength over the common American Citizen. For instance, a black from Africa just tried to knife a policeman and was killed. The Black could not speak English, had no job nor means of support, but is in country with crime as his method of making a living, unless he is on Obama’s payrole.

            Terrible, isn’t it?

          54. MaryLipchey says

            El>> you got that right,he needs the votes,he wants to destroy everything America believes in,his beliefs are not ours,his God is not ours (so he )thinks,he is a hater,from the day he said,{ Time to spread the wealth} ,but not to the poor blacks,or whites, but to his Middle Eastern buddies,the
            ones killing the white Christians.sorry he made this a race issue..

          55. boone1 says

            Obama wants to stay in office past 2016 in other words no election.

          56. madmemere says

            Governor Nicky Haley has already said, he should get the death penalty.

          57. Elise Moriah says

            Please send me some info on why, because I believe Obama has already committed treason.

          58. madmemere says

            Now that you mention it, initially I was convinced she was referring to the shooter (he’s already confessed, by the way), but it wouldn’t surprise me if she meant “both”, nor would I disagree.

          59. eva says

            And just what can We the People do to correct this mistake?

          60. madmemere says

            Eva -It’s going to take a whole lot of “We the People” – -millions more than you and I.

          61. worn out 123 says

            Will Rogers said it best. “A man steals a loaf of bread he goes to prison. A man steals a railroad he goes to congress.”

          62. madmemere says

            Governor Nicky Haley has already said, he should get the death penalty.

          63. Joseph Nicholas Toth Jr. says

            I am totally in agreement with warpaint and Billy. Too bad it will never happen.

          64. nmasterson says

            I agree, why waste tax payers money on trials and all the other legal baloney. You know he did it so he should be executed immediately. This might deter some other would be killers of innocents.

          65. Billy says

            Absolutely Correct !

          66. Warpaint says

            I can understand your frustration but if not for those laws of due process we would be just what we abhor: barbarians.

          67. eva says

            There would probably be a few innocents killed, but with the way things are going, I vote for processing some of these the Saudi way. Caught with drugs, selling drugs, rape, murder, off with your head and soon. Like the show on TV to students idea, understand in Saudi it is done in public. It would deter some and most certainly take care of repeat offenders! No telling what these escapees in NY may do, what do they have to loose at this point? I do not believe our legal system was meant to function as it is presently working.

          68. nmasterson says

            Due process will take over a year, look at Colorado. Then if he does get convicted it will take another 6 months to decide on his punishment. Then, don’t forge appeals and all the other nonsense that goes on. In the meantime we the taxpayers will be footing the bill to keep him alive, healthy, and nourished. There is no question in this case as to his guilt.

          69. Warpaint says

            I understand your point of view and wish the wheels of our justice system spun more freely, in the case of someone admitting his culpability then we could skip trial and go directly to sentencing then to penalty immediately. It will never happen but it is a nice thought.

          70. RMCSRET says

            Warpaint this will never happen since the voting pool for the Democrats would be
            to quickly depleated.

          71. Ripcord says

            Warpaint, I just happened on this blog and saw one of your comments and then brought you up and read a lot of your other comments. Dude we could be brothers—————in arms. My last remaining uncle voted for Oblowme and I have only spoken to him once since. Keep it up man, maybe before it’s too late some of these idiots will wake up and realize the country is a stones throw away from imploding. Thanks to our beloved KING.

          72. Warpaint says

            Ripcord may your shroud lines never tangle!

          73. Ripcord says

            Thank you. Keep fighting the good fight man.

          74. Warpaint says

            Keep your wits sharp and your powder dry my friend

          75. dcfla says

            Absolutely!! Criminals WILL ALWAYS Get their GUNS! ALWAYS!! NO matter HOW Many LAWS & OR REGULATIONS, “THEY” WILL Get THEIR guns..PERIOD! As for the slaughter of these people, no matter what “COLOR or SHADE or Religion or CLASS”!!!! they are or were IN, their Lives Mattered, JUST AS ALL DO!! I am sick & Tired of all the INTENTIONAL Division that HAS BEEN INTENTIONALLY DONE To & AGAINST ALL OF US by the so-called LEADER & ALL HIS “MINIONS” who ARE as IGNORANT & GREEDY & DISGUSTING SUB “SPECIES” OF Human Beings I know exist, as they ALWAYS HAVE!! ANY ONE no Matter their any “divisional/Differences!” do Not Deserve these BARBARIC SLAUGHTERING, YET..when others HAVE BEEN, here as well as ACROSS the ENTIRE GLOBE! Nothing, Nothing Much at all, is Talked about, nor any RAGE Nor ANY CARE! about all of THEIR LIVES! The beheadings, the intentional Slaughtering & PURE GENOCIDE of Christians ACROSS the GLOBE, as well again as here….and NOTHING! They’ve Turned away or Dismissed or just don’t CARE! Yet, as the EVIL ASS in the WH has INTENTIONALLY DIVIDED ALL OF US, well, SOME NOT ALL..Thankfully!! He has done HIS JOB, to Bring US DOWN & AGAINST EACH OTHER IS Exactly WHAT “HE” Wanted in the First place! THIS “IS” the TRANSFORMATION PEOPLE! IT’s OK to Slaughter Christians and even WHITE people, or ANY Other RACE, Class or RELIGION, But..he has Succeeded in MAKING IT TOTALLY A DIFFERENT Horror to Kill a black, who btw,…we are ALL MIXED, there are NO 100% Black, White or any OTHER “SHADE”! WE are ALL GODS, or what ever YOU choose to SERVE, WE ALL MATTER! EVERY SINGLE ONE…UNLESS “YOU” Are the ONES who Want to and CAN Actually KILL another BEING, whether they are Animal or HUMAN..SOMEDAY! Just HOPE & PRAY YES PRAY!! TO GOD ALMIGHTY..Like it or Not I don’t CARE…But someday we WILL Realize KARMA DOES EXIST, and NO ONE NOT ONE has EVER been able to PULL A HEARSE Behind them & TAKE ANYTHING with them, but BELIEVE THIS! YOUR “ETERNITY?” Will Not be as Pleasant as YOU WRONGFULLY…THOUGHT IT would BE! THANK God for all of that! You who would KILL, Maim, or Torture & WORSE ANY BEINGS, YOURS IS COMING, Here in this life or in the NEXT! NO MATTER again YOUR SHADE, COLOR, RELIGION OR CLASS! THANK YOU GOD, Thank You Lord, you will AVENGE us ALL! Go ahead, call me a nut, I assure you, I am the FARTHEST thing from a NUT that could Possibly Exist! I have God given COMMON SENSE, and I love all people who are GOOD people and I don’t care what they LOOK LIKE or who they are, as long as they TOO Love ALL PEOPLE & ALL “BEINGS”..Compassion people, caring More for others than Yourselves, IF you don’t Have that, you are truly MISSING out on the TRUE Love of Life..

          76. noBS says

            I agree with the parts of your post that I read. Unfortunately, your overuse of CAPS was distracting and made it very difficult to read.
            I think your ideas are correct, but for future reference, please be considerate of your readers and cut way back on the distractions.

          77. senior65gal . says

            always,,,,,agreamer chkr in the crooud.

          78. noBS says

            @senior65gal — Not my point at all. I believe that “dcfla” had some valid points to make, but those points got “lost” because of the distraction caused by the over-use of CAPS. For that very reason, I quit reading about 1/2-way through the post, and might have missed something he/she felt was important.
            I was simply offering some advice to the writer. Remember that using uppercase in a post for emphasis is the equivalent of shouting when speaking. How often have you completely tuned someone out who speaks loudly (or shouts) most of the time> When used appropriately (and sparingly), uppercase writing (or speaking in a louder voice) can be very effective, but neither one works very well when overused.

          79. J Donnelly says

            If guns were illegal,and he couldn’t obtain one, maybe he would have built a bomb and killed many more-The problem that needs to be solved is WHY would a young man feel that this was OK to do? Growing up with no moral struucture/sense of right or wrong/examples of integrity? Video games? Movies? The gun is not the problem and never will be. Millions own more than millions of guns and wouldn’t think of harming an innocent harmless man,woman or child. If we don’t identify the problem we can never solve it!

          80. Opinari says

            Why do people do anything they do? I don’t see any answers to this long time problem.

            Cannot always blame parents, some bad apples come from good homes. Just think of a family of several children…all raised in the same manner…they do not necessarily all grow up with identical beliefs or morals or talents.

            I think we need to follow our laws much better than we do. We have too many interferences from those who want to “protect” others such as the illegals and become sanctuaries for lawbreakers. Our schools are removing all things good about our country to teach the ideologies of Lenin, Marx, Alinsky and so on…which in turn are the guides by which some of our politicians lead and govern.

            Too many perpetrators of crime are handled as though it is white America’s fault they are bad apples that they are disenfranchised because someone else is rich and they are not, their skin color is different, their heritage is different, their culture is different…they are owed a living without working for it because someone else has worked and now should just share with them. That is pure and simple bull feces.

          81. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says

            Speaking of building bombs, remember the Boston Marathon?
            Nut cases will always find a way to commit murder.

          82. Gary Dingle says

            They also killed a cop with a gun.

          83. Conservative says

            The radical liberals care more about so-called ‘climate change’ than they do about the mentally deranged, vicious mass murderers. Obama, Hillary and the radical Democrats love to use this as an excuse for taking guns away of law abiding people whereby only the criminals will have them. Those radicals have done nothing nor said anything about the people committing these crimes. They prefer to attack law abiding citizens who would have stopped these atrocities and mass murders if all responsible, citizens without a criminal record could carry a gun openly. Fear for their one safety is the only thing that will stop these monsters. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder!

          84. Conservative says

            Thank you! You are just the type Obama is fighting against. He wants to disarm all law-abiding responsible people so that only the thugs will have guns and are free to kill anyone at anytime without consequences. If they should be arrested for their crimes the radical liberals Obama, Sharpton and the radicals would be their greatest defenders and the radical liberals will be marching in the streets against the police and fighting to get him/her fired, jailed, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Then everybody can just forget about the maniacal murderer that arrested the murder and declare he/she was simply being abused by the police. Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

          85. pineapple says

            “He wants to disarm all law-abiding responsible people….”

            Except for the Secret service who protect his sorry ass.

          86. The redhawk says

            But suppose the Secret Service ” FORGETS” to carry Bullets……………….

          87. Beeotchstewie says

            Exactly right, Chicago is the perfect example of that, or at least it was until very recently. That is what these moronic gun control proponents just don’t seem to grasp. Taking guns away only increases the potential victim pool. Statistics also back that up. Where people are allowed CCW, crime rates are lower. Where gun ownership is criminalized, crime rates are through the roof.

          88. Conservative says

            That is exactly right but since it makes perfect sense the liberals just can’t get it. If Obama and his ilk had their way only criminals would have guns. Maybe he just wants to get all whites and all cops killed.

          89. GREYGHOSTCSA says

            Exactly, Law-abiding citizens will obey the laws. If they don’t like the laws, they will work within the system to get them changed. Criminals do not obey the laws, a fact of life liberals and progressives, for all their self-professed intellectual superiority, do not seem to be able to understand. You can pass all the gun-control laws you want, make every square foot of the planet a “gun free zone” and things like this horrific tragedy in Charleston will still happen.

          90. El says

            Maybe you are right, but not perfectly. The Moral Decay in this country is so bad that you can’t help but live in fear. You have no protection from the laws we now have on the books. You have police protection to a point only. If you are robbed, beaten, shot, then the police show up, ask questions, and you suffer or lie dead. Concealed carry could help, but an aggressive driver may not like your driving the speed limit and shoot you while in passing. So without developing morality and individual worth, we will continue to suffer.

            Christianity offers a way out of this mess but this is not the way for most, unfortunately.

          91. Gary Dingle says

            I would like to see the data from a objective study that proves that guns decrease crime. I have read most of the gun industry documents. People have always had guns in Chicago. Most of the killing is among people who know each other or no off each other. Gangs fighting gangs, family members shooting each other in fits of rage and friends shooting each other out of anger, mistake or hate. Collateral deaths and injuries occur because of mistaken identity and bad shooting. Sometimes the shooter has no experience shooting automatic weapons from a moving car at 40 miles per hour. So more guns don’t lower crime it usually increases the number of gun deaths. There is crime and sometimes they kill or injure. In those cases there is little time to respond unless the armed victim has his gun out before the crime occurs. Armed cops are killed for that same reason. Chicago has conceal carry but gun deaths continue at an increasing rate this year and the crime rate is the same. Also people have always had guns in Chicago. That’s why they have had so many gun deaths. The guns come from Indiana and towns just outside of the city limits. One gun store in Indiana was responsible selling guns used in multiple killings in the City and the mass murder at Northern Illinois University. Guns can come from anywhere in the USA including states like Arizona, Texas and Florida. The problem we face is extremely liberal gun sale laws that allow multiple sales to the same person as often as 2 to 3 times a month. One straw purchaser purchased 5 of the same automatic rifles over 3 visits. As for crime victims, about half of the victims are to young to carry a weapon and many are unable to defend themselves with a gun with out killing an innocent person. I suppose concealed carry makes you feel safe in an ideal world. But the problem is the so called bad guy with a gun will assume everyone is armed and make a tactical decision to shoot a victim in the back rather than risk his life in a confrontation. Armed FBI agents, armed on duty police and armed secret service unsuccessfully protecting President Reagan, were killed an injured by a single sometimes crazed individuals. Professional at the highest level failed to protect themselves or the even the president of the USA from death and injury. Why do you think more guns on the streets will make us safer? Crimes rates are not lower in Chicago because the greatest crime is gun death and injury.

          92. Gary Dingle says

            I would like to see the data from a
            objective study that proves that guns decrease crime. I have read most of the
            gun industry documents. People have always had guns in Chicago. Most of the
            killing is among people who know each other or no off each other. Gangs
            fighting gangs, family members shooting each other in fits of rage and friends
            shooting each other out of anger, mistake or hate make up the reasons for
            homicide including gun deaths. . Collateral deaths and injuries occur because
            of mistaken identity and bad shooting. Sometimes the shooter has no experience
            shooting automatic weapons from a moving car at 40 miles per hour. So more guns
            don’t lower crime it usually increases the number of gun deaths. There is crime
            and sometimes they kill or injure. In those cases there is little time to
            respond unless the armed victim has his gun out before the crime occurs. Armed
            cops are killed for that same reason. Chicago has conceal carry but gun deaths
            continue at an increasing rate this year and the crime rate is the same. Also
            people have always had guns in Chicago. That’s why they have had so many gun
            deaths. The guns come from Indiana and towns just outside of the city limits.
            One gun store in Indiana was responsible selling guns used in multiple killings
            in the City and the mass murder at Northern Illinois University. Guns can come
            from anywhere in the USA including states like Arizona, Texas and Florida. The
            problem we face is extremely liberal gun sale laws that allow multiple sales to
            the same person as often as 2 to 3 times a month. One straw purchaser purchased
            5 of the same automatic rifles over 3 visits. As for crime victims, about half
            of the victims are too young to carry a weapon and many are unable to defend
            themselves with a gun without killing an innocent person. I suppose concealed
            carry makes you feel safe in an ideal world. But the problem is the so called
            bad guy with a gun will assume everyone is armed and make a tactical decision
            to shoot a victim in the back rather than risk his life in a confrontation.
            Armed FBI agents, armed on duty police and armed secret service unsuccessfully
            protecting President Reagan, were killed an injured by a single sometimes
            crazed individuals. Professional at the highest level failed to protect
            themselves or the even the president of the USA from death and injury. Why do
            you think more guns on the streets will make us safer? Crimes rates are not
            lower in Chicago because the greatest crime is gun death and injury.

          93. Beeotchstewie says

            Objective studies are quickly discredited and vilified by this Muslim in chief. No chance of anything real getting in the way of “progress”.

          94. Beeotchstewie says

            I am saying that taking a person’r ability to defend themselves will only serve to embolden the criminals and to increase the potential victim pools. If you were a criminal and knew your targets were not armed, would that increase your likeihood of committing the crime or decrease it?

          95. Gary Dingle says

            I know arming for self-defense seems to makes sense. But it really doesn’t make sense. In the real world it’s nonsense and extremely dangerous. The reality is we are simply creating a world of dangerous deadly people. We have created a dangerous environment because of the proliferation of guns. The gun becomes the crime agent. Our greatest worry is the well-armed law abiding citizen who becomes the criminal because he is armed. Florida homicides increased only because the armed law abiding citizen has the right to shoot and kill unarmed citizens based on the stand your ground. In many cases homicides occur because of over reach interpretation or misinterpretation of stand your ground laws. There have been multiple incidents wherein a young teen was shot in the back running out of a home owner’s yard. The home owners really believed that an “I was scared ” was enough to justify blowing the back off the head off a 14 year old attempting to jump the fence to remove himself from the home owners yard in the middle of the day.

            The criminal is that armed law abiding citizen who killed the father of 3 because he thought the unarmed man was about to punch him during an argument about a dog pooping on his lawn.

            There was a fight in a large parking lot. One guy got so angry he pulled out a legally own and carried gun and shot it at his antagonist. Luckily for the antagonist the law abiding citizen was a poor shot and missed. Unfortunately, a 17 year high school old honor roll student and star quarterback, over 50 yards away getting in his car dropped dead after a bullet pierced his heart.

            My greatest fear is not being robbed, but being in a room with armed idiots thinking they are the good guy with a gun. I grew up in the Liberty city area of Miami and Baltimore. As young man in Baltimore I was robbed one Christmas twice in 5 days. The first time I knew the finger behind the coat was not a gun but it was about 6 to 3 ration. It was 6 of them and 3 of us. I didn’t want a fight so we all gave up between 5 and 20 dollars.

            Later in the week while walking home from a mall, two teens jumped out a car a pulled out what looked like a real gun. The one with the gun saw me looking real hard and began waving it around. I gave him nothing but my brother gave him 20 dollars. Later these same teens, 14 and 16 where nearly killed by police when they pointed the fake gun out the window of a Cadillac they had jacked from an old lady after robbing us. In 64 years that has been the totality of my experience with bad guys with a gun.

            However, my experience of being attacked by people with a gun is much richer when you talk about the so called armed law abiding citizen. As a child I was nearly shot in the head by a neighbor who likes me because he said I was one of the smartest kids he knew. He did not know or ever find out he almost shot me through the head. I had a gun pulled on me by an adult when I was 12.

            As a young man me and others was chased by an armed law abiding citizen because of a fight that broke out during a pickup football game. He shot at least 3 times.

            As a young man I had an armed off duty security guard threaten me when I got into an argument with a customer service clerk. The clerk’s supervisors later decided I was right. The armed off duty guard wasn’t even in the same line, He decided that I would die if I used another expletive.

            Later in life while visiting Arizona to see in laws, I realized that open carry and consuming alcoholic beverages are not mutually exclusive. As I approached the bar to get drinks and take them back to the room of the hotel, one guy wild eyes and obviously inebriated turned and look at me threateningly. He did this because was I was Black? I wasn’t sure. But I was the only nonwhite in the room and possibly the entire hotel. But I gave him the old I don’t care look and proceed to the bar.

            That’s when he place his hand on a large gun holstered on his hip. The man was well dressed suit and tie real nice shoes. I looked for a badge. No badge, he was not a law enforcement officer. This was a law abiding armed citizen who happened to be drunk and possibly a bigot. My biggest problem wasn’t a robber or a criminal; it was the State Laws of Arizona which allowed a drunken idiot and racist to carry a gun. Of course my personal experience is anecdotal but my experiences are held up by statistical studies carried out by the CDC and the FBI. There are numerous studies carried out by objective institutions including universities.

            Now we live in the greatest richest democracy in the world. Yet we have the homicide rate of a third world violent country run by a dictator. Our biggest problem is the gun and the gun owner who would kill over incidents we use to only get mad about. We have created these 35,000 deaths and 150,000 injuries a year disaster we call freedom. If we can’t create a safe environment without having to arm people with 50 caliber Barrett sniper rifles than we have failed as a democracy.

          96. Beeotchstewie says

            It would be nice if we could all live together in harmony and get along all the time. You list some pertinent yet sad examples, like the kid who gets killed for scuffing a pair of Air Jordan shoes accidentally. Problem is whether you like it or not our Muslim traitor in the White Mosque is setting this country up for the mother of all downfalls. We are not a Democracy at this time, we are hurtling towards a dictatorship/Communism. That is Barry’s true heart and his real goal. Destroying people’s lives and causing ever more to be dependent on the government is all part of it. Look up Saul Alinski’s rules for radicals, it is his playbook, almost to the letter. He is pushing for a race war so he can declare martial law and begin the genocide of Christians his “faith” commands of him. Whites and Jews will be the first victims sent to his FEMA death camps. Check it out this crap is real. Do not underestimate how evil Obama truly is. Ask yourself what has he done to make the lives of any Americans, regardless of ethnic background, better? You are going to need a few weapons and soon if you expect to survive the rest of the fundamental transformation Barry the traitor has in store for us. He works for the globalist NWO, not the American people, Actions speak louder than words, he has proven himself completely untrustworthy many times over.

          97. pineapple says

            It is interesting to note that most mass killings occur in NO GUN ZONES such as churches, schools, theaters, etc.

            Very few occur in police stations, shooting ranges, and gun shows where participants are known to be armed.

            Sounds like we need to get rid of NO GUN ZONES.

          98. Jarhead says

            DISAGREE…they are always ready with Fantasy & Fiction, and your a RACIST & Bush did it.

          99. Deborah G says

            Now old friend why are you ranting on me? I have an opinion. It may not align 100% with yours but have I ever called you names? Statistics show that blacks /Minorities that make up less than 20% of the [population commit 83% of the violent crimes. Whites are harmed 13 to 1 . How is that racist? facts

          100. Hawtry says

            Deborah, you misunderstood Jarhead. “you’re racist” was meant to be a snippet of lefty talk, not an accusation hurled at you.

          101. Jarhead says

            Of course not Debbie…..I was only stating what the usual PC Liberal-retards response is to every crisis …….I would NEVER disagree with a fellow Christian Conservative American female. And that’s a fact! You go girl. Semper Fi

          102. Deborah G says

            whew! I’d miss my old friend! I misunderstood. So sorry. And how are you this week?

          103. Jarhead says

            DEB: If is was doing any better I would have to be twins!
            PLEASE do not pass this on to the IRS.

          104. Deborah G says

            lOL NOw THAT is my good buddy!

          105. The redhawk says

            Hi brotjer.. the Liberal Retard meter would have you believe that Sharpton and Jackson are REAL ministers, That Obama is a leader, that Jenner is a Woman and that his Pet Beagle is a cat, that Al Gore is a scientist and that Stephanopolulos is a Journalist…. Their CRAP meter runneth over!!!
            SEMPER FI!

          106. pineapple says

            And that Hillary tells the truth.

          107. The redhawk says

            Thanks I forgot that one….but let me add another LlBtard TRUTH …. Mochelle does NOT pee Standing up!!

          108. Robert Young says

            Deborah, I think Jarhead’s statement was about the liberal s that shout terns like you are a Racist and Bush did it were examples and were not accusations aimed at you.

          109. Deborah G says

            IT WAS MY MISTAKE ! I must have missed my second cup! Thanks

          110. The redhawk says

            SPOT ON!!!

          111. The redhawk says

            AND boy can they LIE…..

          112. The redhawk says

            OH I do not know….. May be once they see a BLACK flag or Sharpton with his THUGS in their rich neighborhoods they might Get Wadded Panties and ” SEE DA LIGHT”…. But they could WHINE THEM INTO SUBMISSION then?

          113. hillbilly says

            The left is never right.

          114. Matthew V. Brown says

            HA!

          115. Opinari says

            More ways than one.

          116. TadhgMcLir says

            Deborah, that comment is what the Drill Sergents said on the firing range, and nothing to do with politics.
            Still, I agree the left is never ready to actually DO anything.

          117. Deborah G says

            That was a bit of DRY humor guess it escaped you

        2. sturgis says

          The hell with it! Kill them all, and let God sort them out!

          1. The redhawk says

            Just Imagine how UPSET this would make OBIMBO and his Trolling LIBATRDS!

          2. Elise Moriah says

            We need covert anti-Islam sleeper cells in every American neighborhood. Well trained and ready to defend ourselves when all hell breaks loose because we KNOW the government will not defend us against it-hell, I believe they are behind it. I wish I knew how to start a network like that, but I don’t. My late husband was Marine Corps sniper in Viet Nam, and he had the training to know how to do this, but he died. I am lost as to how Americans can unite and fight this together, but I am willing to fight.

          3. The redhawk says

            For now a GOOD vigilant neighborhood watch with the Right Folks will Spoil any “CRAZIES” from getting organized

        3. Elise Moriah says

          I’m ready and waiting cause I SEE what’s coming.

          1. The redhawk says

            OH THEY ARE HERE…. it is only a matter of time before they ACT!!!….. I hope it starts in Hawaii at the 5 million dollars Obama Mansion….

      2. Croco Dile says

        every government augments the power of its sword with the power of its priesthood, forging an iron union of throne and altar. In olden times, not uncommonly, the rulers were themselves declared to be gods – the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt made this claim for many centuries. Now the subjects can be brought to fear not only by the ruler’s superior force, but also by his supernatural powers. Moreover, if people believe in an afterlife, where the pain and sorrows of this life may be sloughed off, the priests hold a privileged position in prescribing the sort of behavior in the here and now that best serves one’s interest in securing a blessed situation in the life to come.

        Naturally, the warriors and the priests, if not one and the same, almost invariably come to be cooperating parties in the apparatus of rule. In medieval Europe, for example, a baron’s younger brother might look forward to becoming a bishop.
        Thus, the warrior element of government puts the people in fear for their lives, and the priestly element puts them in fear for their eternal souls. These two fears compose a powerful compound – sufficient to prop up governments everywhere on earth for several millennia.

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    2. Croco Dile says

      Fear : The Foundation of Every Government’s Power
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      Thousands of years ago, when the first governments were fastening themselves on people, they relied primarily on warfare and conquest. Losers who were not slain in the conquest itself had to endure the consequent rape and pillage and in the longer term to acquiesce in the continuing payment of tribute to the insistent rulers – the stationary bandits, as Mancur Olson (2000) aptly calls them. Subjugated people, for good reason, feared for their lives. Offered the choice of losing their wealth or losing their lives, they tended to choose the sacrifice of their wealth. Hence arose taxation, variously rendered in goods, services, or money.
      Conquered people, however, naturally resent their imposed government and the taxation and other insults that it foists on them. Such resentful people easily become restive; should a promising opportunity to throw off the oppressor’s dominion present itself, they may seize it. Even if they mount no rebellion or overt resistance, however, they quietly strive to avoid their rulers’ exactions and to sabotage their rulers’ apparatus of government. As Machiavelli observes, the conqueror “who does not manage this matter well, will soon lose whatever he has gained, and while he retains it will find in it endless troubles and annoyances” (1513). For the stationary bandits, force alone proves a very costly resource for keeping people in the mood to generate a substantial, steady stream of tribute……..

    3. mike slaney says

      Why are people so surprised? This has been going on for years around the world to Christians in predominately Muslim countries. It is just now coming to America. “Voices of the Martyrs” has been informing the world for years of this kind human slaughter. The problem is, Liberals ignore it and many Christians deny it with head in sand. To that I say, keep your head in sand and loose it. Or, be proactive, pray and support the brethren and their families in the jaws of death. How to support: prayer, time, money, and be a voice for those who can not speak, and speak to those who refuse to hear the spilling of blood.

    4. TAM44 says

      History has shown what happen to countries that took the guns away from the people. Millions were killed because they were unable to defend themselves. The USSR done this and look what happened millions of people died as they were defenseless. There were other countries who did the same and millions died. Never give up your rights it’s bad medicine especially with the idiot in the white house..

    5. Michael Dennewitz says

      You nailed that one to the wall. The TIC (terrorist in charge) has most likely peed himself over this one. It plays right into his plans. Create as much racial tension as you can, then claim that you just have to declare martial law to control it – BINGO! Dictatorship! Who the hell does Soros and his media think they are fooling? Hell, the guy could have been paid to do it, just to satisfy the TIC…

    6. The duck says

      What we need is better gun control and two very steady hands should do it. Well of course good eye-sight helps also.

    7. nmasterson says

      I agree with you.

    8. Nastasyana says

      So it’s Obama’s fault that this murderer killed 9 Black people because he wanted to kill Black people because “they rape our women and are taking over America”. I guess Obama was also responsible when the KKK used to lynch Blacks and he is also responsible for the discrimination that whites suffered when they were not allowed to integrate with blacks.

      1. OpieOnIt says

        Who said that? It was this kid’s fault that he killed these people! The amazing thing is that they wiped away his bid to spread his hate and evilness by showing their love and forgiveness. You must have read that on somebody else ‘s post! Take the victims’ example and show your love , not your misplaced hatred!

        1. Nastasyana says

          You people are very lucky that Blacks are so forgiving and always have been. The Christianity you rammed into their heads kept them docile and continues to do so. I do not HATE anyone. I happen to love “The World” and I want to see us all survive in peace, acceptance and respect for all people and religions.

          1. Elise Moriah says

            ALL blacks are not forgiving, nor are all whites, Jews, etc. We need to stop looking at race and band together as brothers and sisters in the spirit, because that is what we are, and the spirit doesn’t have a “race.” There will be groups of people that will not LET you love them because of their ideology, but they come in all races. We need to band together as Americans also, to fight anything that threatens our freedom. Personally, I love the earth universe as God created it in its beauty, but the “world” and SOME of mankind has destroyed much of that beauty and so many people of all races have become so evil that I have to pick and choose what is “safe” to love. Blindly loving everyone and everything will get you hurt and/or killed. Do what Christ said and be as wise as the serpent.

          2. OpieOnIt says

            You sure are an intolerant hater for such a lover of the world. And you assume way too much! I’ve never crammed anything into anybody’s head. You are by far the most hateful, intolerant and prejudiced poster I’ve seen on this comment section! Stop judging and look on the mirror.

          3. Nastasyana says

            Oh Shut up! I am not speaking of you specifically, I am talking about the missionaries who stole the culture of the colonized and exploited. And I don’t hate anyone. Obviously you are not used to dialogue or discussion. You must just hang out with people who think like you

          4. OpieOnIt says

            Then reply to them, not me! Anyway, I still love you even though you hate me and “we people”. And I doubt very seriously you’ve ever had a true discussion with other humans with varying views! And check my up votes. I believe I was generally well understood…by everyone else…

          5. Nastasyana says

            And you were understood bt me. Just as “you people” make generalities about blacks and Muslims, I can also make generalizations about you people. And i am open to dialogue. Sometimes I even play devil’s advocate with the people who do think like me. And i do appreciate that you do not call em names or denigrate my ideas. You simply disagree and I think that’s wonderful. I don’t know you well enough to “love you”.

          6. OpieOnIt says

            “You people”? Do you have any idea what my race is? Nope!

          7. Nastasyana says

            Why do you assume i am talking about your race? I am referring to the conservatives on this site.

          8. OpieOnIt says

            There – THAT’S what I wanted you to say! So it’s okay for liberals and progressives to make every view conservatives offer as “racist” – but you get a pass ??!! Thank you for the absolutely perfect example!

          9. Nastasyana says

            No not “every view” is racist. Most are just dumb!

        2. Elise Moriah says

          The example I take from the victims is that I will no longer have my gun in my purse when I go to church. I need it concealed on my body so I can get to it quicker if I need to defend my life or the lives of my fellow congregants. I really hurts me deep in my soul that I have to be armed to attend church, or just stop going if I want to live to see all of my grandchildren grow up. The problem with these killers is the damned drugs that fry their brains so they CAN be brainwashed by these hate-groups.

          1. OpieOnIt says

            I was replying to Nastasyana. Check out the hate Nastasyana spews!! ; )

          2. Elise Moriah says

            I know, but I was replying to you about the situation and how it affected me, and others, I,m sure. I only saw the one post from Nat, but felt my response to you would show the true affect on people. Sorry if I bothered U with it. Was not aware of nat’s hate spews.

          3. Elise Moriah says

            OK-checked our what U were initially talking about. Guess I got a little off-subject. I’m REAL new to this and sometimes get confused as to what’s really being said.

          4. OpieOnIt says

            No, you make excellent points! I just didn’t want you to think I was directing anything toward you that you that we’re actually for someone else! Don’t want to offend another thinking person!; )

    9. boone1 says

      The leaders in this country are longing for a race war in fact they want it so bad that they would go out of there way to pay groups to start a race war using white and black alike to do this this government under Obama will do anything to stay in power.

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  5. Combatvet52 says

    Once again Barry does not speak of consoling only to push his personal agenda for more gun control, this POS stole his mothers gun she should go to jail with him for not securing her weapon, another Adam Lanza sicko…….If Barry and Sharpton, and Jackson along with the rest of the race players keep their mouths shut things like this might just not happen.
    ( There is no WHITE privilege. Whites are the victims of government discrimination )

    1. The redhawk says

      Barry is a HEADINASSJACKASS RACIST BALLS FREE PSYCHOPATH!!!

      1. Combatvet52 says

        Ditto redhawk

        1. The redhawk says

          Semper Fi bro !

          1. Combatvet52 says

            Likewise brother Vet

          2. The redhawk says

            And once more the PUS-Y potus ‘MISSED THE BOAT” UUU-RAHHH!!!

          3. Combatvet52 says

            I hope he takes the boat with the holes in it.

          4. The redhawk says

            or one with a LOUD “BANG”

    2. Conservative says

      Whites, Christians and Jews are all victims of discrimination because the radical left needs the vote of every minority and fringe group to hold onto their positions of wealth & power.

      1. Deborah G says

        100% agree

      2. Combatvet52 says

        Absolutely 1,000% agree

      3. Juan TwoTree says

        Agreed Conservative!!!

  6. The redhawk says

    By all means LET’S TALK about the White violence, which might be caused by two or three WHITE NUTCASES but bY all Means let Obama, Lynch ( Holder in a skirt) Sharpton IGNORE the HUNDREDS of Black Killings that BLACK Violence create EVERYDAY , and the ANTI COP and anti WHITE RACIST POSITIONS that THEY have promoted for over 7 years……. ..

  7. TEXAS AMERICAN says

    WE ARE NOT A PASSIVE SOCIETY YOU DON’T WIN WARS BY BEING A PASSIVE FAGGOT WAR IS BIG MONEY

  8. Gregg the voice of reason says

    People of color Your leaders are using you to line their pockets.
    I warned you it wouldn’t turn out good for you .
    Yes there are crazy white people too, and they can be pushed to this very terrible action .
    They look around and see the people of color destroying cities and playing their Knock out games on old people and it pushes them over the edge.

    1. Americans Wake Up says

      And getting away with it.

    2. George says

      Every mass murder since Columbine has been perpetrated by someone on mind-altering drugs, most obtained illegally. This kid was caught earlier with a prescription drug for which he had no prescription. The war on drugs didn’t catch any of these, or stop them from illegally obtaining these drugs.
      When is the FDA going to remove these deadly drugs from the market?

      1. Deborah G says

        They don’t need to remove them from the market and deny people who have real need. what they need to do is not let these kids get them from their parents medicine cabinet unprotected.

        1. George says

          The war on drugs hasn’t stopped illegal drugs, just as prohibition didn’t stop alcohol consumption. Any drug that creates a buzz or high is available on the street in any community.
          As for prescription drugs, there was no such “disease” as ADHD until Ritalin was invented.
          Maybe there are a few people who benefit from mind-altering drugs, but how does that justify selling drugs with side effects such as suicide and homicide, especially when most of these people could benefit much more from vitamin therapy?

          1. Deborah G says

            I come from a family of doctors so I see a different perspective than you. IRRESPONSIBLE prescribing is the issue and doctors not incorporating nutricals with therapy. We have had a long standing tradition of the Hippocratic Oath in ours. FIRST DO NO HARM! I agree some psychotropics have been over prescribed for badly behaved kids when a good parenting session is more beneficial. Setting limits on kids has shown to be nearly as effective as drugs.Even with kids with some mental issues limits started at an early age teaches them how to cope. We baby too many kids and libs give them too many excuses.

          2. George says

            I too had an uncle, and two cousins, who were MD’s. My cousins saw a large increase in thyroid disorders once the medical establishment decided that salt caused hypertension – more problems than the removal of salt solved.
            In 1999 I developed a blocked artery at age 48, and discovered thru my own research that the BP med I had been on for 5 years could have caused it. After that I discovered an alternative MD who taught me the importance of nutrition, and who seldom prescribed dangerous drugs.
            I’ve since done 2000 hours or more of research on my own, much of which confirmed my new doc’s teachings. Also, I discovered several world renowned MD’s who have pioneered vitamin and other nutritional therapies, successfully treating bipolar, schizophrenia, among other psychiatric disorders. Check out Dr. Abram Hoffer’s “Megavitamin Therapy.” BTW, he was a psychiatrist and biochemist.
            Problem is, until vitamins become prescription only (and sold by drug companies), these therapies will remain well hidden from the average citizens and their doctors – and our children will continue to be subjected to deadly drugs. Another problem is teachers diagnosing ADHD and doctors writing prescriptions without confirming the diagnosis.
            And these drugs will continue to be available on the street, available to anyone with cash.

          3. Deborah G says

            There is good and bad allopathic and Holllistic. Quacks on both sides

          4. George says

            Agreed. But the greater issue is the corruption of the FDA allowing drug companies to peddle deadly drugs for nonexistent diseases, with no fear of retribution when their products result in multiple innocent deaths.

          5. Deborah G says

            The FDA is not the problem sorry. There are vast resources spent and hundreds of hours spent deciding the safety of a drug. It isn’t if a drug is 100% safe it is a risk/benefit. Listen vitamins can kill you if not taken properly. Have to use common sense and not overload your body with stuff natural or not. It does a pretty good job of keeping you going with extra good nuitrition

          6. LastGasp says

            And real, nutrient dense, non gmo food. Clean water w/o fluoride or chloramines.

  9. Ddenney1 says

    BS!!!!!! White crime black crime is ALL crime!!!! Calling it by color is stupid!! This IS a race crime because the shooter was white it allows the left to justify doing nothing to stop crime in the minority neighborhoods!! BECAUSE liberal policies in schools communities is so concerned about “FEELINGS” and NOT paying attention to ACCOUTABLITY nobody cares about why only who!

    1. Deborah G says

      It was a race crime because the shooter said as much however it is NOT indicitive of white violence in the general public. These shooters we mentally ill.

      1. Jarhead says

        And always into drugs, POT, Xanax, etc. and apparently no friends, family to get them help for their addiction.

  10. John says

    This is about one evil idiot that killed innocent people praying, So lets no go and say White people. I am white and I am saddened by the loss of life here. I think this idiot should be hanged in a public square for all to see. No one has the right to do what this person did, (NO ONE ), be it black or white or any other color. kill this scumbag and be done with it. This coming from a white guy?

    1. Robert Young says

      Yes, and another white guy agrees with you. A heinous crime was committed and the guilty party must be punished according to Law.

  11. blackhawk132 says

    The population of whites compared to blacks is enormous . Lets have an honest survey done that exposes white vs blacks criminal acts. Lets see just which group is causing the overwhelming amout of murder and crime. Obama and his nutso group of Al Sharpton hate mongers have to be put in their place . THEY are the racists who benifit from inflaming the blacks and just what are these race baitors doing to improve the futures of black adults and children ? MLK meantioned CARECTOR . They raise their voices shouting RACIST comments. Black and white people are all God’s children and SHOULD be treated with respect when that respect is honored by all races. We are ALL HUMANS . Forget the classification of white , black , yellow , We must all earn the respect and be called Americans but 1st the race baitors on all sides must be put in their ugly place.We are ONE people and must reflect our attitudes first or there will never be change.

    1. Robert Young says

      Blackhawk, such a survey is unnecessary. What we need is JUSTICE. Those committing crimes must be punished according to LAW. Their Race does not matter. I do agree with the rest of your post.

    2. LastGasp says

      Very true. There is only one race, the human race. All the so-called races are social constructs, used for categorization and control.

  12. George Cahonna says

    Oh yes please, let us talk about white violence..Lets first look at FBI statistics on violence, & who is involved. . Oh my, I can see the whites have not been doing they’re part percentage wise in the violence dept. Come-on whitie it’s an equal opportunity profession. ***Pure Sarcasm***

  13. Conservative says

    One cannot help with grieve for the victims and their families over this senseless, horrific action perpetrated by a hateful, spineless thug. This is reprehensible!

    I also grieve that one or more people in the church did not have their own guns to take that monster out as soon as he began to draw that gun or at least after he shot & killed the first victim, the Pastor.

  14. Kenneth Duncan says

    More blacks are killed by black people. Why isn’t anything being said about that? Cause the truth hurts.

    1. Deborah Henderson says

      There is no money in that (black on black crimes) for Sharpton and Jackson and the others that keep the black person down (mostly democrats who give no incentive to get off government assistance). “You are slave to the lender” and although no one has to pay back their government assistance money……..they are still a slave to the government be they black or white, purple or green, yellow or red.

      1. The redhawk says

        UUUUU-RAHHH

    2. The redhawk says

      Well TRUTH SCARES THE LIBTARDS!!!
      to them Truth is:
      Al Gore is a scientist
      Odumbo is a Leader
      Jackasson and Sharpton ARE real ministers
      and Holder, Obama, MOOchelle and KLAN are NOT RACISTS!
      Jenner IS a woman……………..that is LiBTARD TRUTH!

  15. DogWithoutSlippers says

    What a jerk! Confuses mental illness and drugs with racism, which to a certain sense lingered in this young bastard’s twisted mind. Wants to blame whites and guns because he himself (the writer is a POS)!~

  16. antiquityjohn says

    I Obama an his administration did not care when four U.S white men where killed in Benghazi. And they were praying for help and Obama did nothing. It seems if you are white no one cares if you are killed by blacks.Now I watch all the news media showing how this was a hate crime,when two white cops where killed no one cared not even the mayor. This young man was full of hate because this administration put it there. I am sure the leftest are going to blame the gun instead of the real problem the hateful Obama administration.Why are people so afraid to tell it like it is.Thanks to the leftist we all in total division and not united as we should.I feel for all the good people who where killed and pray all of us will do the wright thing and unite and become one.

  17. blackhawk132 says

    Lets have an honest debate and compare white vs black crime. The population of blacks is 13% with white over 75% . Lets compare all crimes by that population result and really see who causes the vast majority of crimes.Lets go a step further and compare only the poor living in poverty in both races .

    1. Deby says

      I think that has been done, but somehow the lefty’s have totally ignored those studies, because they would rather race-bait and think emotionally about these issues and throw blame at whites via the media and even the president himself- the most extreme race-baiter of them all–yet he is HALF white-still don’t understand why he ignores that fact.

    2. Robert Young says

      Why waste the money for such a study. Crime is crime and what we want is JUSTICE where all those who commit crimes are punished according to our Law. Their Race is not important and should not be a considered.

  18. alfy says

    when things like this happen obama demonizes white people with guns,yes this was a terrible act committed by a white person,why doesn’t obama mention the blacks who seem to be able to get guns easily.

  19. Grandpa82 says

    If there had been even one person in that church group that had a permit to carry and a firearm with him/her the number of deaths would hev been reduced drastically and one of the dead would likely have been the instigator !
    Those that believe disarming “good people” and having “Gun Free Zones” will help curb the Mayhem that is all aroundus need to be educated.
    It Is my firm belief that if for example “Mall of America’ in Minnesota were to offer employees that had background checks free training and an opportunity to purchase firearms at cost that measure would discourage some of the violent perpetrators of killing. This same logic applies to all schools that want to be able to protect our children.
    While it would not deter all; it would assure that the killing spree would be short lived and the number of deaths would almost certainly be reduced.
    Disarming “good citizens” only assures more dead and wounded in the event of an incident.
    Victims that shoot back live longer !

    1. Robert Young says

      Thank you for your well thought out post.

  20. rchguns says

    This deranged young man who obviously has more than a few snakes in his brain is a direct product of the vocal black community. There’s not a single point that you can point to say this is where it all started. But this is direct results of everything that’s happened since Ferguson.

    See police officers being executed, black leaders leading cheers like, “what do we want, dead cops, when do we want them, now”. Al Sharpton gets his ugly face on every TV in America screaming hatred like, “it’s open season on black people”, and openly declaring war on all cops and any American who is not black.

    You can’t get away from this bull because they continually just piling on. They’ve openly declared war and it would seem that they seem to think laws do not pertain to them, and they need not have any respect for anyone or anything.

    Enter this young man who is at least partially mentally unhinged, who is exposed to this trash coming out of Sharpton’s mouth and others like him pushed right over the edge. More than likely in his mind, as deranged as it is, he was only responding in kind to what he hears continuously from places like the Huffington Post, and just about every other left-wing publication, radio station, and TV programming.

    There is no excuse for what this young man did and he should have been executed on site that’s not America. America tries to work within the law and the law says that this young man deserves a trial. Above all else everyone should realize that a war has been forced on America by self-righteous Negros were operating under the delusion that just simply because they’re black the rules do not pertain to them they have an unlimited supply of get out of jail free cards.

  21. Patriot47 says

    One more drugged up whacko and he’s supposed to represent white people. IF HE DID, There would be no more live blacks in the US.

    1. LastGasp says

      The resident illegal thinks the shooter represents white gun owners. At least, that is what fits in his agenda.

  22. Lightning says

    When an individual does something evil – say the Boston bombers – liberals always want to find out why, and the why always indicts our society. Let’s try that with Dylann Roof.

    Since he had black friends and even told one what he was planning, and was doing drugs (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/18/everything-known-about-charleston-church-shooting-suspect-dylann-roof.html), one could argue that this was less hate crime and more insanity, the product of an unstable mind rather than sane hatred. But let’s accept that it was racial, Roof hated blacks.

    Now, why? What elements of our evil society are to blame? Was he somehow “taught” to hate by family or in school? Possibly, but it doesn’t seem likely. Or could he have been reacting to the clear preference given blacks by media and society today, the anti-white message that we’re pounded with 24/7? A message promulgated by liberals claiming to be the good guys but painting everything in racial tones and always blaming whitey?

    Just a thought. If so, he went after the wrong people. The truth, as Oscar said, is rarely pure and never simple.

    1. gregsmom says

      I’m just guessing here, but this looks like someone who was unpopular in school, probably had no girlfriend, has low self-esteem. To boost his own ego, he puts down people who are different from himself. Somewhere along the line, a relative or teacher should have picked up on how disturbed this person is. That same thing applies to many of the media-celebrated murderers lately. Have you seen what that guy who did the Aurora, CO shooting looked like with his orange hair? No one picked up that he identified with a movie villain. How is it that no one in contact with these people seems to understand how screwed up they are? And why would they allow any gun to be available to someone like this? That’s totally irresponsible! What we need are parents who pay attention to their kids’ behavior, and schools that focus on these kids rather than the star athletes who generally will be fine.

  23. Elfego says

    Liberals are phony and the throw lies around to justify their opinions.I tell you that Jessie Jackson,Al Sharpton,The NAACP.The New Black Panthers . The so called Mainstream Media are as much the root cause of this violence as anything. The statistics and figures will not bare out what the Liberals are saying. Those mentioned have stirred up White Hatred for years along with today’s Democrat Party. America’s real problem is we have moral decadence and everyone wants a stage to pontificate.

  24. Warpaint says

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  25. Chris Robinette says

    If a civil war does break out against the traitor Barry Soetoro, then it may be a war on 3 fronts. Obama and his private army that are mercenaries not our Military is one. the Islamics is two and some blacks 3. The interesting thing is many allies will be blacks who have worked to make a better life for themselves and not suck on the government tit.

  26. Irene Elizabeth Grooms says

    You talk about white violence what about violence in all of our society. We have EVIL EVERY WHERE IN OUR SOCIETY AND THAT IS THE TRUTH AMEN.

  27. Rock J. Dueck says

    Some people, organizations, and politicians will always find a way to demonize all of us bad “privileged” white people and they get great mileage out of any incident that suits their agenda. Reality and statistics are not a requirement apparently. I still refuse to apologize for being white. Besides, I can claim the same defense that has become so popular: “You have to accept me, I was born this way.”

  28. junkmailbin says

    DeVega aka of the vagina , wants to get his c_ok copped by the liberal SPLC , naacp, de rev al, CBC, and Ogayarab.

  29. Robert Young says

    Murder is a crime and the person committing it must be punished according to our law. it does not matter what the Race of the guilty party is .In a heinous crime such as this the death penalty serves two purposes, first it prevents the person from ever committing such a crime again and second, it sets an example of what to expect for anyone else considering committing such a crime. Race is not an issue, whoever you are, commit the crime, pay the price. Unfortunately,Obama, Sharpton, and others DO NOT care about justice but will use this incident to fan the flames of Racism to further their own agendas.

  30. MYRON says

    it is sickening anyway you look at it, it is totally wrong and guttless, it should never happen but we have the nut cases everywhere, but o’bama is going to use it against every honest gun owner in the country, just for his political gain of disarming the country so he can rule like his bro sadam hussain (name rings a bell doesn’t it???) never does he mention anything about all the bro’s killing eachother in his home hood of chicago because they are all the same race, in countries where guns have been taken from the people the crime rate climbed if they would tell the truth (no chance of that). he is going to make a big deal about this for political reasons, to gain power over the people. never do you hear from ol’orocco about all the crime his bro’s are causing every day against white people, gonna be all the criminals crossing the border , but he will not stop that from happening, right across the border from texas is the most dangerous place on the earth right now with all the drug king shi$$ , well he is allowing that to bleed across the border, yea o’bama dis arm us so your damn druggies can really run wild. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE MY GUNS WHILE I’M ALIVE, but it’s a shame we have nut cases like that idiot but this country is not the only one that has trash like that.

  31. K. Q. Duane says

    You are missing one critical point. These are not simply “white” institutions that the liberals are continually trashing. More importantly, they are ALWAYS fundamentally Christian-based institutions created by white, CHRISTIAN MEN. And as such, we as Christians, must be mindful that the liberal’s aggressive rhetoric Is not benign chatter but part of a much larger and more sinister agenda to undermine, and eventually legally ban, all Christian standards of behavior and thereby eradicate Christian morality. Yes, it’s sick and short-sighted but when have you met a liberal who isn’t?

  32. marlene says

    DeVega just proved that Black Lies Matter – and white lives don’t.

  33. bdcorvette says

    Any time that someone craps on the sidewalk, there is always someone else around to stir it, be he this idiot white liberal or a real pro stirrer like De Revrun’ Al. They are all the same – trouble makers and ignorant fools.

  34. Nastasyana says

    he was equalizing. Does it really matter how many are killed by whom. N o, it’s the point that when Blacks do it, it’s because of the “family” where as when whites commit crimes, it’s because they have psychological problems. There are loads of sick people out there white and black with psychological problems many of which are exacerbated by the former racial policies of this country and the reluctance to deal with our awful human rights history while we criticize others. We need to take care of America first
    and that means that there needs to be a dialogue around how to stop the resentment and hatred of both races.

  35. Laurence Almand says

    So why didn’t someone in the congregation have a concealed carry permit? They could have stopped the nut in his tracks!! Another example of what happens in gun-free “safe” zones – which are anything but safe!
    You can be sure the gun-control nuts like Feinstein and Holder are delighted with this incident!

  36. 83footsailor says

    Taking the weapons away form JOHN Q. PUBLIC Citizen will not do anything **** except **** to put the weapons into the hands of CRIMINALS . /////////////////////////////////

  37. Dexter L. Wilson says

    The Supreme Court,
    legislating from the bench, used the Danbury Baptist letter “to protect”
    the state from Christianity instead of protecting Christianity from
    the state. The Supreme Court should have obeyed the U.S. Constitution
    and the Amendments which were the final authority of the law . Thomas
    Jefferson was not a signer of the Constitution nor present at the
    Constitutional Convention; therefore his letter should never have been
    used for this purpose. A Supreme Court case using the Wall of
    Separation was tried in 1879, but the meaning of the First
    Amendment at that time was clearly understood, and the attempt failed.
    The Supreme Court should have
    paid more attention
    to Fisher Ames who penned the First
    Amendment and called the Bible the chief text book to be used in
    teaching children in the public schools. Dr. Benjamin Rush noted as the
    “Father of Public Schools” and a Co-Founder of the AME Denomination warned that if the Bible was taken out of
    public schools, America would have to deal with more violence than the country can handle. I
    add this as a reminder of what has transpired: After School Prayer,
    Bible Study, and the 10 Commandments were banned from the public
    schools, circa 1963; violence increased by 554%, and after 2007
    by 995%.

  38. Walter L. Hatfield says

    This is a tragedy, not white or black, human tragedy. For anyone to try to put a label on this would diminish the true fact that we have people, white, Black, Brown, Arab, Muslim etc., that have hate in their hearts and hate is learned through misinformation and mistrust. I have many black friends and when we speak we don’t speak as white or black, just human beings. I hate violence of all kinds but when the mental institutions were closed and people unable to cope with the real world, they sometimes use factors that would be discounted by the average person and become confused and angry.

  39. e3mrk says

    When something like this happens the first thing the Liberals do is blame Guns.
    They cannot stand that the facts show that Lawfully Owned Guns have saved more lives than have been taken by the bad Guys.

  40. David D says

    Be prepared friends. The big O and his sheep will be hitting it hard again. We should be ready for another rash of Royal Decrees again and socialist states following along. I for one will not any law or decree that violates my rights …. do with me what you will.

  41. Ronald Nelson says

    No, De Vega is neither too wrapped up in his own liberal hemisphere to notice nor is he being intellectually dishonest. De Vega is deliberately agitating for social revolution… He is purposely engaging in disinformation aimed at instigating racial violence to insight civil unrest and violence. De Vega is not interested in the dynamics or truth, he is not open to considering the facts or data concerning White violence verses Black violence. Instead, he is interested in creating an environment conducive to bringing about revolution. He is using Marxist Ideology to incite cultural and political revolution.

    1. LastGasp says

      BINGO!

  42. Rick Rogers says

    Well the Suspect is now know and so was his motive. So your conclusions are a bit off. This was a Racist act pure and simple and anyone that is trying to paint it as a Attack on Chrisitanity is also that.. Pure simple Minded.

    1. Juan TwoTree says

      He should be facing 9 counts of premediated 1st degree murder!! Simple as that!

  43. raziel71 says

    The agenda of the demoncrats is on its way. They want racial separation and a new civil war. Anything that would grant them power to take our rights away and made us a communist country.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      They are going to get a bigger fight than they think.

  44. scott says

    facts are facts.liberal scum dont like facts or truth.

  45. hillbilly says

    In a neighborhood that we used to live in,there have already 20 blacks killed by each other,and numerous wounded by Gangs,and that place is a mess,even got black protesters for piece walking up and down the Streets begging for Piece,so why don’t Mr. Viagra visit some of these places and take his sleeping Bag, and sleep out side for a couple of nights if he makes it,or go to Chicago for a vacation well he will galdley be welcomed

  46. The redhawk says

    ” talk about ONLY” White Crime … GUN unenforceable laws in Chicago and GO GOLFING WITH HOLLYWEIRDS IN LA…THAT IS A GOOD DAY FOR THE PANSY POTUS…

  47. Shauna says

    The left is positively pathetic and sick for using this as a political agenda. I don’t see salon.com talking about the TRASH they call the mayor of Baltimore ALLOWING, the destruction of minority owned businesses, I don’t see any of the trash on mainstream media discussing the black on black crime in Chicago, has ANY pulled those stats? I guess it’s the white part of Obama that lets black genocide happen in those cities…Want to talk about race? Let’s talk about Al Sharpton and his ilk, stirring up the destruction of their own communities. Those people are too stupid to see it’s not white people’s communities they are hurting. DUH! Want to talk about race? BY all means, BRING IT! This kid was sick, I BLAME the liberal media for this, the LIBERAL media for this. A lawsuit is on the way, you scum sucking algae coated fly infested pond scum. You stirred this, you will be held accountable. Your not journalist, therefore, you do not get the protection, your nothing more then a rotting, dead rodent on the side of the road. You don’t get to stir this up and walk away you freakin trash, race baiting SCUM. Let karma be your ultimate punishment. GRRRRRRR

  48. gerald Hughes says

    We are past the point of dealing with the liberal dem bloodsuckers, with reason and votes.
    Contact your legislators, demand a national referendum on partitioning the USA.
    Physically separating ourselves from the liberals is probably the only way to prevent civil war.

  49. dwa209 says

    I would hope this is not Politically motivated it is?? Look what happens when a person color gets shoot the administration immediately goes on TV wanting gun control.

    Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton the Attorney General and the administration get involved right away And for some reason we have riots. {They tear up and burn down there own towns.}

    And the people that this happen to, say that if they were caring it would not have been so bad. “It should not have happen at all” God Bless them..

    And I’m sorry but when a Caucasian gets shoot or killed no one gets involved {no administration calling for gun control}, no Sharpton, no Jackson and no Attorney General it just makes you wounder and think twice.

    Why do they cause so many problems if it’s not to start a race war, and In the last few years it has really deteriorated.

    With the terrorist trying to kill us and they are concentraing on Christians. Why are we killing each other, Why we can we stand tegother with us bring so many illegals in were going to have more problems.

  50. Gypsy says

    Would it not be a bit more reasonable to demand that our legislators and law enforcement personnel enforce the existing laws concerning gun purchases and ownership by felons, the mentally unbalanced, etc? Why is it easier to ignore the existing regulations, invent a new set of non-existent problems, and develop draconian solutions for a problem that does not exist? Wait , because that is what His Imperial Majesty Obama wants – silly me!

  51. Larua says

    first off, this is a hoax/false flag with an agenda,
    this never happened but so long as people believe it did, than the agenda can push forward.,
    Right after this BS was reported on the news, obamanation was lickity split on the fake news spewing
    crap about gun violence and gun control.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDIBnK3muI
    do not fall for the fake scripted news you see on every damn news channel.

    here are 3 videos proving the hoax:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnX9OZn2LJE
    pt 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuBADmhEj_A
    pt 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhzWZiNwDEY

    1. Elise Moriah says

      Probably so he can sneak in a REALLY BAD Iran deal or something else while everyone is watching this. It all could be a deterrent.

      1. Larua says

        your absolutely right, and meanwhile the corrupted congress passed the TPA and we are now on the fast track to the TPP, game over if it passes. and it will.

  52. observing57 says

    The parents knew of the medications he had accessible, the outrageous material hanging all over the walls in his room, and to injury to insult the dad goes and buys him a .45 ca. pistol. Death sentence for the kid, and prison time for the dad since he was aiding (probably mentally feeding) him. Sad story.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      EXACTLY. I know I heard a mention of meth use on one of the news stations. With OPEN BORDERS, the Cartel just keeps the crap coming (not that they can’t make it in America), but Obama has put this country in so much danger by not protecting our borders, I think he should be charged with treason. NO ONE is cracking down on illegal drugs enough. The people doing these crimes have fried brains, and I’d bet the farm that drug use is involved in most if not all of these incidents. But this government WANTS our citizens’ brains fried so they won’t realize the danger America is in of becoming a socialistic (or worse) country.

  53. SouthernPatriot says

    The real horror of the demon-man full of hatred and racism is that he was treated honorably and kindly by the pastor who had him sit in a honored place next to him, where he sat for about an hour before he began his horrific slaughter. This is beyond sad. Through his malice, hatred, racism, and actions Root earned the death penalty and I hope it will come before 15 years and numerous tax payer appeals are exhausted.

  54. pattonknew says

    we can call one or two of these incidents isolated, we can call several as mental, demented or evil and the many more incidents nationally, as something different all together…but society does so ignorantly, only by ignoring its collective source….the socialist state/government.
    does a society ever say to its self that I or we, some how, have life way too good and we will do every thing in our power to destroy the system, society and anyone who supports it …in as many ways as possible? even as a druggie?
    “Because that is exactly” what this president and progressive congress have said openly, to the american public.
    before we judge lets look at the christian perspective: the bible says murder, torture, rape, theft, all manner of sex beyond marriage, coveting your neighbors property and many others are all sin….but the truth is that every one of these are the absolute, life blood, of the socialist state….which makes the necessity of pragmatism a necessary point of view.
    it is not the individual incidents that are suggestive of the culpability, but the collective repeat patterns that are evidence of its collective source.
    Is attacking police nationally somehow less reprehensible than this incident or is it that we as a nation are all, absolutely aware of the parasitical political scum in washington known as the president and the media that are rsponsible for it ?
    this president, congress and the lamestream media in this country deserve absolutely nothing beyond this countries absolute – contempt and scorn.

    our condolences to the families of the victims –

  55. Amish Prepper says

    I don’t understand how they could just sit there, and I heard he had to reload several times. Why not throw a chair at him while he was reloading and get control. Something does not seem right here. As with all shootings i.e. Gabby Gifford’s, Sandy Hook and Batman Movie Theater, and all suspects usually have this in common…http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      Almost makes you wonder if the whole thing wasn’t set up by the Administration to TRY to impose gun control. There will be a revolution first.

      1. Amish Prepper says

        It is looking more and more like a Sandy Hook thing. They are continuously doing shooting events, so you never know which are real and which are fake. Sometimes part of it is real and some of it is fake. We have a real problem and our media goes along with the corruption. You are right about the guns and people will not give them up, so there will be a revolution 1st.

        1. Teri Hucker says

          Not too long ago the FBI came out with a statement that no one was killed at Sandy Hook. It was an active shooter drill. Exactly what I thot from the beginning. Look up http://www.crisisactors.com Allot of these so-called tragedies are actually drills, that This administration uses to try to scare ppl into giving up the 2nd amendment. Reminds me of Ben Franklin’s quote. Those who would give up liberty for freedom deserve neither……

          1. Amish Prepper says

            Do you remember where you got that information on the FBI, that no one was killed at Sandy Hook? I have a whole lot of information on Sandy Hook, which points to a drill and the possibility that no one was killed. In fact that school safety investigator who is still working on Sandy Hook has been threatened and also has found out some stuff that goes towards, it is not adding up. I knew from day one, that it was fake, but getting evidence to post is hard. All this stuff that happens there is always a drill before hand. There was also a drill in Charleston SC on the same day of the shooting at the church. The drill was labeled “Active Shooter Threat Training Drill”. Scheduled for 6/15-6/19 in Charleston SC. I find this totally amazing as this is always the case with these shooting, just like Batman Theater Massacre, and even the Boston Bombing had a drill going on just before the bombing. Here is the article on the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center and their schedule….https://www.intellihub.com/false-flag-charleston-shooting-happened-during-federal-active-shooter-drill/

  56. Alleged Comment says

    The people at salon.com are so lame. Poor attempt at drumming an audience but which you fell for, sadly.

  57. Sean Rickmin says

    Obama promotes this,pure and simple.ALL of this B.S.started when barry was elected.America never had as many problems as we have now.Barry has an agenda to destroy our country,and this is just another nail in Americas coffin.People got along a lot better before barry.This guy is evil.He hates America,he hates white people,he loves islam,the most sick and corrupt religion in the world.It’s time for people to wake up and get along,DESPITE barry barach el’satan.

  58. madmemere says

    It is pretty sad, when a state like SC has “legally” allowed concealed carry, that this church, by its own Pastor was declared a “gun free zone”! That was revealed on another “trustworthy website”, yesterday. Equally sad, Mr. DeVega “chooses” to ignore other real facts, as you mentioned, the disproportionate numbers of black-on-white and black-on-black crimes; but he (as most liberals do) love to jump on the “singular” (sometimes pair) white crimes against humanity. I only mention “humanity” because ALL of us are of the “same race”- – the human race; some of us are just different colors/hues!
    The libs like to bash law enforcement; I have to admit, “sometimes” it is justifiable, most often it is NOT! I do seriously question what took place in the Waco “biker shootout”. What did they report – -“only six officers fired their weapons” and, was it eight bikers killed and a number wounded? And yet, not one single leo was shot??? It seems, “much later”, investigators “discovered” arms and ammo, “hastily hidden/buried” in grass and turf, nearby!!! WHAT! (Don’t suppose that stuff was “planted” do you?) Sorry, I digress. I meant to point out a few “real facts” about “white mass killers”; something many seem to ignore, or miss. This latest killer (Mr. Roof) consumed mind-altering drugs; non-prescription, he was simply an “abuser”. James Holmes, the Aurora theater shooter (July 2012), was prescribed psychotropic (mind-altering) drugs, by his doctor, as was Adam Lanza, the “alleged” shooter at Sandy Hook School, in Connecticut. Now, I could be completely “off base”, but I see a pattern here. And I won’t even get into how “quickly” obama/soetoro/sobarka, always and without fail, jumps on the “gun-control bandwagon”, every single time!!

  59. kktex12 says

    This is a trash article and devaga needs to swim back across the Rio Grande.

  60. kktex12 says

    This is a trash article and devaga needs to swim back across the Rio Grande.

  61. Michelle Minze-Bryant says

    I would like to see the statistics of when the crime rate went up in proportion to taking Christian values out of our schools and environment. When being an atheist was a bad thing and not discussed as acceptable. When did they start taking God out of the Oath of Office. Is God still in the Oath? Because if it is, with Christian Values, they should be impeached for lying.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      I do not know the stats, but I am old enough to tell you that this country started going to hell AFTER they started taking God out of the schools, public places, etc. I HEARD that Obama put his hand on the Koran when sworn into office. If anyone knows whether or not this is true, and can show me, I would REALLY appreciate it.

  62. lenati says

    New slogan “WHITE LIVES MATTER AS WELL AS BLACKS”

  63. don lavrich says

    lets hold this guy that did the shootings accountable,not the whole white race, and lets start talking about black on black murders for a change!

  64. bygeorge says

    Never argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience!

  65. daanerud says

    The prince of darkness was an old buzz word ‘PROGRESSIVE’
    He has deceived many.
    There is a one way only road. It is Progressive deception.
    Once on this path, there is no turning back as it would destroy your integrity of someone who has the truth.
    Thus more progressive deception is required to promote progressive dulution

  66. Jack says

    People like Chauncy De Vega make me want to toss my breakfast, this devoted socialsit wants us to believe that white violence is to a higher degree more than black violence. All random violence is pure evil and it is usually done by misfits in society, and it comes in all colors. Tell me why it is that nothing is ever done to stop these kind of killers? it’s because they are or have been treated by psychiatrists that never report that they are dangerous and could cause problems, these Psycology people have a code not to reveal what goes on between the doctor and his client, but that code has become obsolete in these modern times and should be changed for the betterment of society.

    Now on a different point I would ask Mr DeVega how many articles have you written about the knockout game perpetrated on whites by blacks resulting in some deaths? Or how many articles have you written about a white man being shot by a policeman when he committed a crime, and how many riots have occured in those instances? In the examples I just mentioned, tell me how many times have the white people had protests and claimed the white man shot was innocent without knowing the facts of the case, liek what happened in Ferguson and Baltimore? I’ll give you a clue Mr Vega, NONE!
    So it that liberal demented brain of yours learn how to write the truth it could make you a more respected writer, not some quick to accuse hack.

  67. nmasterson says

    I would like to know why the race baiters, and the anti-Americans have “freedom of speech” but good Americans need to watch what they say or, what they say is censored because it doesn’t meet the left wing “Political Correctness” agenda. I would also like to know why the Muslims in this country can spout ALLAH whenever they want but Christians and others can not use the word GOD.

    Did you hear about the grammar school girl who was suspended because she said “GOD bless you” to one of her classmates that sneezed?

    1. Elise Moriah says

      Here is MY opinion. Obama wants to change the country and turn it into a socialistic and/or communist country. Every one of his actions and some of his deliberate lack of action points in that direction. The question is: Are we, as Americans, smart enough to understand this before it is too late? How about AMERICANS UNITE to save our FREE country, and work on our social issues together, also.

      1. nmasterson says

        Elise,I agree with you but the only way to save our free country is to vote in the right people.  If Hillary or Bernie Sanders become President, it will only be more of the same. POlitical Correctness which is helping to destroy our freedom is a Liberal invention.  We also need to have someone strong in office who will strengthen our armed forces and secure our borders, not so much from illegal Mexicans coming into the country but radical Islamists who are coming into our country through Mexico. Again, Hillary or Bernie Sanders is not the answer.

        1. Elise Moriah says

          I absolutely agree-I just thought that voting conservative and securing our borders and country, along with what I said, was understood. We need more than that, though. In my opinion, we need covert anti-Islam sleeper cells in EVERY neighborhood in America. I mean trained and prepared to fight when all hell breaks loose-and it IS coming. These Islamic sleeper cells are going to be given “the word” and all at once, attack diverse places in America, causing utter chaos, giving Obama the excuse he’s been waiting for to implement Martial Law. Americans need to be well prepared and trained to fight it all. Securing the sanctity, freedom and security of our America and our Constitution is the most important issue, because if we do not have this country secure and as safe as we can fight and make it, we have lost our beloved country. I believe that we need to try to wipe the practice of Islam out completely and it needs to be started immediately. I’m afraid most Americans do not realize how serious and dangerous the Islamic ideology is. Second in importance is the economy. Other issues like racial problems and other social issues need to be addressed, but they are not number one on the list. Americans better unite immediately as Americans FIRST so that we have a country left to secure and grow. I think of it metaphorically as AMERICANS working together as if the entire country just got hit by a massive hurricane.

  68. Dominic Roy Accampo says

    Violence against Churches is growing across America & abroad as liberals bash religion in general and Christianity in particular while trying to enslave our world within the One World Order of their dreams/nightmares!

  69. adrianvance says

    To extrapolate from one insane man is itself insane.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  70. Scott Campbell says

    Lately, I have noticed most of the “mass killings” are done by white people. Why? Is this an attempt by people who want guns taken from white people. Seems unlikely that it is just whites who commit mass killings. Unless , of course, they are just pawns for the gun grabbers like obumma. Is it possible that there are no black or muslim mass killings in the US? NO it is not. So , the only answer is the media covers up the killings, especially by muslims, so that white Americans guns will be taken to allow the US to be enslaved by obumma and his muslim terrorist helpers. The reason obumma does not call isis muslim terrorists is because he is one of them.

    1. Elise Moriah says

      Do you think that the Obama Administration actually has people trolling the net, looking for certain weak-minded types, has trained people (psychiatrists) who can spot them, and maybe befriend them or gain their confidence and underhandedly influence them to do something like this. The meth use seems to be real effective, because I’ve heard more than once that meth use (and other hard-core illegal drugs) contributed to these monsters’ state of mind. They would not be that hard to control if their brain is already half fried, and they use the drugs routinely. I know that sounds like a pretty wild conspiracy theory, but stranger things HAVE happened.

  71. eva says

    This was awful. What was wrong in this family? Dylaan dropped out of school in 9th grade, Why? He had no job, what job skills did he have? What did he think he could do with limited education and no job skills? Why did his family such poor decisions? Could he have gotten in the military at an earlier age? He had a nice, new car – yet no job? He was into drugs and had a felony chg against (could not have passed gun purchase), yet dad gives this young man on pysc drugs a gun for his birthday? The dad needs to be arrested on some charges. We need to reinstate more mental health hoitals, not walk in clinics, too many of th SE killed s should not have been out in the public. I pray for this church and affected families.

  72. Ramon Noches says

    Hate is powerful and is an undeniable factor that fosters worldwide violence across the globe. I consider at its core is the animalistic parts of our human psychic left over from our prehistoric ancestry. A look at the animal world shows so many similarities. First, we are territorial just like fish in the sea, birds in the sky, and all animals on the ground. Our differences depart from the norm for most animals because of our intelligence, where we inculcate human developed issues such as religion, politics, race, and even
    economic status. We use these differences in a similar manner as territorial, as something not to be treading upon.

  73. disqus_CeZmTpgh9W says

    Tie him to a chair and give the relatives of the people he murdered baseball bats!
    Slime like this should be made to suffer before they die!

  74. antiquityjohn says

    If you really look hard enough you will find out that the democrat leftist are behind it all. They want disarm America and the only way to do that is fund people with problems and tell them to kill.This a way the Clinton’s and all the President’s leftest buddies can come up with new way’s of disarming America. If you real American’s don’t stop them we will be taken over by the new party . The democrats want to rule all us and tell what to do and you are not going to like it much. STOP them now or kiss freedom goodby.

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